ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow, "Defend A Hero: Sgt. Marland" Part 2
March 29, 2016
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ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow
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ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow, "Defend A Hero: Sgt. Marland" Part 2
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- [ANNOUNCER] LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW
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- LIVE. PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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- AND NOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
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- AND JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW! JAY SEKULOW: HEY, WELCOME TO THE
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- BROADCAST EVERYONE. WE'RE THRILLED OUR TELEVISION AUDIENCE
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- IS HERE. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE GOT. WE WANT TO SUPPORT
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- OUR MEN AND WOMEN SERVING IN THE MILITARY AND I KNOW THIS NETWORK
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- SURE HAS. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. AND WE, AT THE ACLJ,
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- HAVE A UNIT INSIDE THE ACLJ DEDICATED TO WORKING WITH MEN
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- AND WOMEN SERVING IN THE MILITARY AND DEVELOPING THESE
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- ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE MILITARY AND WE'VE GOT A BIG ONE. SGT.
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- MARTLAND: NOW YOU MAY NOT KNOW HIM. HE'S NOT A HOUSEHOLD WORD
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- AND I THINK THAT'S, FRANKLY, PART OF THE PROBLEM. SGT.
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- CHARLES MARTLAND IS A DECORATED MILITARY HERO, A GREEN BERET;
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- SERVED VALIANTLY IN AFGHANISTAN. WAS IN AN OUTPOST, A MILITARY
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- OUTPOST, A UNITED STATES MILITARY OUTPOST IN AFGHANISTAN.
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- HE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GREEN BERETS WERE THERE
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- AND WITNESSED AND SAW AN AFGHAN COMMANDER, AN AFGHAN COMMANDER
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- THAT WAS ON THE BASE, SEXUALLY ABUSING A YOUNG BOY. AND SGT.
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- MARTLAND WENT IN TO STOP IT; REMOVED THE COMMANDER OFF THE
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- BASE. REPORTED WHAT THE COMMANDER HAD DONE TO THIS YOUNG
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- BOY. AND YOU KNOW WHO'S BEING REPRIMANDED? SGT. MARTLAND. AND
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- THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES OF
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- AMERICA? WE PROTECT CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY ON U.S. SOIL OR AT A
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- U.S. MILITARY BASE. THIS WAS AN AFGHAN COMMANDER THAT WAS
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- AUTHORIZED TO BE ON THE BASE BUT WAS ABUSING THIS CHILD. SOME
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- WILL SAY OR ARGUE, WELL, THAT WAS THE CULTURE OVER THERE. YOU
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- KNOW WHAT? THAT'S NOT THE CULTURE ANYWHERE? THAT VIOLATES
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- EVERY INTERNATIONAL NORM AND EVERY INTERNATIONAL HUMAN
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- RIGHT'S THAT ALL OF THESE GOVERNMENTS HAVE SIGNED ON TO.
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- JORDAN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PRACTICALITIES ON THE GROUND OF
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- WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO SUCCEED IN THIS NOW VERY
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- NARROW WINDOW OF APPEAL THAT'S LEFT. THIS IS A MAJOR EFFORT
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- HERE. JORDAN SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT TO HELP CONGRESSMAN HUNTER BUILD
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- A LOT OF CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT. HE SPEAKS, OBVIOUSLY, HE'S GOT A
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- LOT OF INFLUENCE WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES INVOLVING OUR ARMED
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- FORCES AND WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, MEMBERS OF THE
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- UNITED STATES SENATE; A BIPARTISAN EFFORT. THAT STARTS
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- WITH YOUR GRASSROOTS ENGAGEMENT TODAY AS YOU'RE LISTENING TO
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- THIS BROADCAST; GETTING INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE AT
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- ACLJ.ORG OR BY PHONE AT 877-989-2255. WE NEED YOU TO
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- TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP OF GRASSROOTS ENGAGEMENT. WE KNOW
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- IN THE PAST THIS IS HOW YOU GET A POSITIVE RESULT IN THESE
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- SITUATIONS. IT COMES, ULTIMATELY, DOWN TO IMPACTING
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- THOSE WHO CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS VERY EASY. THEY CAN
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- GET INVOLVED AND PUT A HAULT TO THIS, TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE
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- WHITE HOUSE. WE NEED YOUR HELP TODAY. -TIM'S CALLING FROM
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- SOUTH CAROLINA. HI, TIM. -I'D JUST TO KNOW WHY OBAMA DOES NOT
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- JUMP INTO THE FRAY AS FAST AS HE DOES TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND
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- OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF THE MILITARY AS FAST AS HE DOES FOR
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- THE ALL THE TERRORISTS, THE ILLEGALS, -HERE'S WHY: RIGHT
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- NOW IT'S NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION THAT IT NEEDS TO GET.
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- I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH. IT'S NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION
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- IT NEEDS TO GET. SO WE'VE GOT A BIG JOB HERE AND THAT IS, TIM,
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- WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS TO GET ATTENTION. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE
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- GOT ALL OF OUR RESOURCES, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO RUN THIS ON
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- OUR REGULAR TELEVISION BROADCAST AS WELL. WE'VE GOT TO GET
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- ATTENTION TO THIS. IT IS THAT CRITICAL. WITHOUT THE ATTENTION,
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- JORDAN, CONGRESSMAN HUNTER CAN'T DO THIS BY HIMSELF. -NO. WE
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- NEED THAT GRASSROOTS OUTCRY; THE SUPPORT TO REALLY SWELL ACROSS
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- THE COUNTRY. IT NEEDS TO BE THOSE, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE
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- HAVE MANY LISTENERS OF THIS BROADCAST WHO HAVE FAMILY
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- MEMBERS WHO ARE VETERANS THEMSELVES, WHO HAVE FAMILY
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- MEMBERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY SERVING, AND THIS IS A TIME FOR
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- YOU TO REALLY TAKE A STAND. IT SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE.
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- IT'S NOT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT ISSUE. AT THIS POINT,
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- AT THIS STAGE, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET THE ATTENTION OF
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- MORE OF OUR LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT AND THIS IS OUR
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- OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. -ALRIGHT, MORGAN'S CALLING FROM PORTLAND,
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- CT ON LINE FOUR. HI, MORGAN. -HI, JAY. HOW ARE YOU? -GOOD.
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- -I'M A VETERAN AND MY HUSBAND'S A RETIRED NAVY VET. -THANK YOU
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- BOTH FOR YOUR SERVICE. -OH, THANK YOU. WELL, I'M SITTING
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- HERE THINKING, YOU KNOW, FROM THE DAY WE ENTERED BOOT CAMP,
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- WE'RE TAUGHT TO HAVE MORAL CHARACTER. WE'RE TAUGHT TO HAVE
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- RESPECT AND HONOR. -YES. -AND I FEEL LIKE THIS GUY IS, HE'S
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- BEING PERSECUTED FOR WHAT WE WERE ALL TAUGHT FROM DAY 1.
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- -RIGHT. -AND I'M SURE HE ENTERED THE MILITARY ACTUALLY
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- HAVING THIS CHARACTER BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, PEOPLE DON'T JUST
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- GO INTO THE MILITARY BECAUSE THEY WANT THE MONEY. GOD KNOWS
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- IT'S NOT FOR THE MONEY. YOU KNOW? SO THEY GO IN FOR A
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- PURPOSE AND THAT'S TO SERVE. AND IT'S TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN;
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- OUR FAMILIES. -RIGHT! -OUR WIVES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, OUR
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- HUSBANDS AND EVERYTHING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I SIT HERE AND I SEE
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- AN INNOCENT CHILD JUST BEING ABUSED, -RIGHT. ON A MILITARY
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- BASE CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED STATES. -ON A MILITARY BASE!
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- THAT IS LIKE AMERICAN SOIL, CONSIDERED. -EXACTLY. -AND I'M
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- SORRY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER IF IT WASN'T
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- AMERICAN SOIL, -BUT IT IS. -I UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S THEIR
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- CULTURE OR WHATEVER, -TECHNICALLY IT'S UNDER OUR
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- CONTROL. THANK YOU MORGAN AND YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SERVICE,
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- SKIP, SHE BRINGS UP A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT HERE AND THAT IS
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- WHAT DO YOU EXPECT A TRAINED SOLDIER TO DO? LOOK THE OTHER
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- WAY? -ANY TRAINED SOLDIER WHO'S AN HONORABLE INDIVIDUAL AND SGT.
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- MARTLAND DEFINITELY WAS, WOULD TAKE EXACTLY THE ACTION HE DID.
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- HE STOPPED THE ABUSE OF THE CHILD. HE CONFRONTED THE ABUSER
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- AND TOSSED THE ABUSER OFF THE INSTALLATION. AND THEN IT WAS
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- REPORTED UP AND HE WAS REPRIMANDED, RELIEVED, AND
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- REMOVED FROM THAT POSITION. THAT'S WHERE THE MISTAKE
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- HAPPENED AND THAT'S WHERE THE FAULT SHOULD LIE AND THE
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- MILITARY SHOULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO HAD SUCH FAULTY
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- JUDGEMENT TO REACT THAT WAY AND TO PUNISH THE PERSON WHO WAS
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- RIGHT, TO MAKE HIM THE CRIMINAL IN THIS ACTIVITY, NOT THE ONE
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- WHO ACTUALLY PERPETRATED THE CRIME. -WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE ON
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- SGT. MARTLAND'S CASE WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK.
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- JAY SEKULOW: SO LET ME
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- GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING US OR YOU'RE
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- HEARING THIS PROGRAM TAPE DELAYED OR MAYBE OUR FRIENDS ON
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- KKLA, YOU HEAR THIS PORTION OF THE BROADCAST AT 6 O'CLOCK. LET
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- ME TELL YOU WHAT'S HAPPENED, SGT. MARTLAND, A DECORATED GREEN
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- BERET, SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN WITH HONOR AND DISTINCTION ENDS
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- UP IN A SITUATION WHERE HE WITNESSES FIRST HAND WITH OTHER
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- MARINES, OTHER GREEN BERETS, RATHER, HE WITNESSES FIRST HAND
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- AN ABUSE BY AN AFGHAN COMMANDER ON THE BASE AT AN OUTPOST
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- AGAINST A YOUNG BOY AND HE INTERVENES; PULLS THEM APART,
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- TAKES THE AFGHAN COMMANDER OFF THE BASE. FOR THAT SGT. MARTLAND
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- IS BEING REMOVED FROM THE MILITARY UNDER THIS
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- REORGANIZATION PLAN OF THE MILITARY AND SHRINKING OF THE
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- MILITARY. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO SERVED WITH HONOR AND
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- DISTINCTION. NOW SKIP, WE'VE HIT 2 LEVELS OF APPEAL HERE WITHOUT
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- SUCCESS SO IF WE GO UP 1 LEVEL NOW, THIS ONE, WE WERE JUST
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- TALKING DURING THE BREAK, THIS IS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. SKIP
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- ASH: IT IS MORE COMPLICATED. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, I MEAN, THESE
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- PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE THEIR
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- GUIDANCE AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT RECORDS. SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING
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- AT THE WHOLE CONTEXT. IT'S THE POLITICAL LEADERS, THE PEOPLE
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- WHO ARE THE FINAL DECISION MAKERS WHO NEED TO LOOK AT THIS
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- IN CONTEXT. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONE OF THE
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- REASON THAT THEY ACTED WAS BECAUSE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF
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- BEING OVER THERE WAS THE WIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE.
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- AND THE PEOPLE WERE VIEWING THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT AS BEING WORSE
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- THAN OUR ENEMIES. -YEAH. -SO THEY HAD TO STOP IT AND THEY DID
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- STOP IT. -JORDAN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT
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- THIS ALSO DURING THE BREAK, OUR FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK AND
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- PERISCOPE HAVE HEARD IT, BUT MOST OF OUR AUDIENCE HAS NOT,
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- DUNCAN HUNTER, THE CONGRESSMAN, IS RUNNING LEAD ON THIS, BUT
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- WE'VE GOT TO GET MUCH BROADER BASED REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT
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- CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT HERE TO MOVE THIS. JORDAN SEKULOW:
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- THAT'S RIGHT IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. WE NEED THIS FROM
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- EVERY POTENTIAL MEMBER OF CONRESS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
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- SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT KIND OF PRESSURE TO
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- GET A POSITIVE OUTCOME. AND THAT WILL START WITH THE GRASSROOTS
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- MOVEMENT RIGHT HERE ON THIS BROADCAST TODAY. -CHRISTOPHER
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- IS CALLING FROM OKLAHOMA ON LINE SIX. CHRISTOPHER, WELCOME TO THE
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- BROADCAST. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -YES, SIR. HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
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- -GOOD, SIR. -I'M AN ARMY INFANTRY VETERAN. I DID 2 COMBAT
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- TOURS TO IRAQ. -THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. -THANK YOU. -WE
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- WERE TOLD BOTH MY DEPLOYMENTS, IF WE WITNESSED A SEXUAL
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- ASSAULT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S ON MAN, WOMAN, OR CHILD, WE
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- WERE TO STOP IT HOWEVER WE COULD. -AND THAT IS THE ORDER
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- THAT MAKES SENSE, CHRIS. AND SKIP, YOU'VE SERVED IN THE
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- MILITARY A LONG TIME AS AN OFFICER IN THE MILITARY, AND
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- THAT, TO ME, MAKES SENSE. IF YOU SEE IT, YOU STOP IT. -THAT'S
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- EXALTY RIGHT. I MEAN, SEXUAL ASSAULT VIOLATES UNIFORM CODE OF
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- MILITARY JUSTICE, IT VIOLATES INTERNATIONAL LAW AND I'M SURE
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- IT VIOLATED IRAQI LAW. SO YOU ARE JUST ACTING IN ACCORDANCE
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- WITH LAW WHEN YOU STOP THAT KIND OF CONDUCT. -SOMEBODY ON
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- PERISCOPE JUST SAID, WHAT DO THEY DO? EXPECT OUR MILITARY TO
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- LOOK THE OTHER WAY? APPARENTLY SOMEBODY DOES. SO SKIP, HOW THEN
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- DOES THIS HAPPEN, I KNOW THEY'RE DOWNSIZING THE MILITARY, AND TO
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- ME THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WROTE ABOUT IN OUR BOOK
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- "UNDEMOCRATIC". THIS IS THE BUREAUCRACY NOT REALIZING, OR
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- MAYBE INTENTIONALY DOING THIS, BUT THE BUREAUCRACY TAKING
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- CONTROL OF A SITUATION RATHER THAN REALIZING THIS IS A
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- DECORATED SOLDIER THAT'S REALLY BEING HARMED BY THIS.
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- -ABSOLUTELY. IN FACT, THIS WHOLE ISSUE IN AFGHANISTAN,
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- THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT REPORT, MARINES, AND ARMY PEOPLE
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- WHO REPORT THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT GOING ON, AND REPORTED THAT THEY
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- HAD BEEN TOLD THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERVENE, WHICH MEANS
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- SOMEONE IN THE U.S. CHAIN OF COMMAND HAD PROMULGATED A
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- POLICY, A HIGHER UP, THAT SAID THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERVENE.
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- AND THAT IS AN UNLAWFUL ORDER AND THAT'S THE PERSON, OR THOSE
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- ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SHOULD BE
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- LOOKING FOR AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE EJECTED, NOT
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- SOMEONE WHO ACTED HONORABLY. -ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE BASICALLY AT
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- THE FINAL STAGE OF APPEAL FOR SGT. MARTLAND'S CASE, SKIP, IS
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- THAT CORRECT? -THAT'S CORRECT. IT'LL PROBABLY GO FROM HERE TO
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- THE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITIES WHO ARE EITHER GOING TO APPROVE
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- IT OR DISAPPROVE IT AND IT'S MORE UNLIKELY HE'S GOING TO
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- APPROVE IT UNLESS THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF PRESSURE FROM
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- OUTSIDE. -WE'VE GOT TO GET THE OUTSIDE PRESSURE REALLY GOING
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- HERE FOLKS. AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. LET'S TAKE CHARLIE, WHO'S
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- CALLING FROM ODESSA, FL. ALSO A MARINE VETERAN. CHARLIE, THANK
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- YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTRY. GO AHEAD PLEASE.
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- -THANK YOU, JAY. YEAH, CHARLIE THE PLUMMER FROM SUNNY ODESSA,
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- FL. -YES, SIR. -I'M A MARINE CORP VETERAN AND I LOVE MY
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- COUNTRY AND THIS SERGEANT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE ACCOMMODATION, HE
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- SHOULD BE GIVEN A MEDAL, HE SHOULD BE GIVEN A PROMOTION. HE
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- WAS ONLY DOING THE RIGHT THING. HEY, IF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN, IF
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- I WAS THERE WITH A BUNCH OF MARINES AND WE SAW HIM RAPING
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- THIS LITTLE BOY, WHICH THAT'S IN THEIR CULTURE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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- THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO PROBLEM WITH THAT GUY LEAVING THAT PLACE
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- ALIVE. -YOU KNOW, ALL HE DID, CHARLIE, THIS IS WHAT, TO ME, IS
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- SO FRUSTRATING ABOUT THIS CASE, HE SEPARATED THEM, AND REMOVED
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- HIM OFF THE BASE. AND JORDAN, HE SHOULD BE GETTING, LIKE CHARLIE
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- SAID, HE SHOULD BE GETTING COMMENDATIONS FOR THAT. -YEAH,
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- I MEAN, YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW THIS COULD ESCALATE TO A MUCH MORE
- 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:11.030
- DIFFICULT SITUATION. INSTEAD, THOUGH, USING HIS TRAINING AND
- 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:14.150
- USING HIS KNOWLEDGE AND I THINK, BEING AS SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE
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- TO THE SITUATION, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FAMILY ASKED THEM TO
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- INTERVENE, HE GOT INVOLVED AND REMOVED THE INDIVIDUAL. COULD IT
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- HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE ROUGH? YES, BUT IT DIDN'T ESCALATE TO A
- 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:27.280
- REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE WAS SERIOUSLY INUJRED
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- AND HURT IN THE PROCESS. AND THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT
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- THIS, IN ANY WAY, HAMPERED OUR EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN EITHER.
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- -RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOT. ALRIGHT, DONNI IS CALLING
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- ON LINE FIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. HI, DONNI. WELCOME THE
- 00:11:44.030 --> 00:11:46.260
- BROADCAST. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -HI. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH
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- THE LAST CALLER. I THINK THE SERGEANT SHOULD BE AWARDED.
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- -RIGHT. -I MEAN, I THINK THE POLICY MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE
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- WHERE YOU JUST REPORT AFTERWARDS AND SOMETHING MIGHT BE DONE, AND
- 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.140
- PROBABLY WILL NOT BE DONE AFTER THE ACTION HAS ALREADY TAKEN
- 00:12:00.150 --> 00:12:03.000
- PLACE AND THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE. -YES, SO YOU'RE TALKING
- 00:12:03.010 --> 00:12:05.160
- ABOUT WHEN THE COMMANDER SAID REPORT UP THE CHAIN. DO WE HAVE
- 00:12:05.170 --> 00:12:08.180
- THAT SOUND BITE? LET'S GO AHEAD. LET ME PLAY FOR EVERYBODY SO WE
- 00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:12.060
- KNOW WHAT DONNI'S TALKING ABOUT. HERE'S WHAT WAS SAID: -THE
- 00:12:12.070 --> 00:12:14.150
- MILITARY'S POLICY WHEN A SERVICE MEMBER BECOMES AWARE OF AN
- 00:12:14.160 --> 00:12:16.230
- INSTANCE OF ABUSE. -WHAT I SAID IN A PRESS RELEASE A WEEK OR SO
- 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:19.240
- AGO WAS THAT THERE IS NO POLICY THAT SAYS DISREGARD THAT. WHAT
- 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:23.230
- OUR POLICY HAS SAID SINCE 2011 IS THAT YOU HAVE TO REPORT
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- INSTANCES OF SEXUAL ABUSE BY THE AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES UP YOUR
- 00:12:28.210 --> 00:12:32.060
- CHAIN OF COMMAND. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT OF ALL OUR MEN AND
- 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:35.200
- WOMEN SERVING AFGHANISTAN TO BE ABLE TO DO. -THIS WAS, BY THE
- 00:12:35.210 --> 00:12:38.240
- WAY, A QUESTION BY SENATOR GILLIBRAND, WHO'S A DEMOCRATIC
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- SENATOR FROM NEW YORK. SKIP, WHAT ABOUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE
- 00:12:40.270 --> 00:12:44.110
- DEFENSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, REPORT UP THE CHAIN? -WELL, I'M
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- SURE THERE WAS A REPORT UP THE CHAIN. I MEAN, HE HANDLED IT AND
- 00:12:47.150 --> 00:12:50.160
- THEN HE REPORTED IT UP THE CHAIN. OTHERWISE, WHY WOULD THEY
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- HAVE KNOWN TO REPRIMAND HIM? SO THE ISSUE IS IT WAS REPORTED UP
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- BOTH CHAINS, THE AMERICAN CHAIN, AND THE AFGHAN OFFICIAL WHO WAS
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- OFFENDED PROBABLY COMPLAINED. BUT THE ISSUE WAS HE HANDLED THE
- 00:13:01.030 --> 00:13:05.110
- PROBLEM AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED AND THEN IT WENT UP OUR
- 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.240
- CHAIN, BECAUSE OUR MILITARY LEADERS WERE AWARE OF IT.
- 00:13:07.250 --> 00:13:11.040
- -WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT INCLUDING THE LEGAL ISSUES
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- SURROUNDING THIS CASE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MOBILIZE
- 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.010
- ACTION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PROTECT, THE BEST WE CAN, TO GET
- 00:13:17.020 --> 00:13:20.110
- PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS SERGEANT. BACK WITH MORE IN A MOMENT.
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- [MUSIC]
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- JAY SEKULOW: I WANT
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- TO GO RIGHT TO THE PHONES. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CALLS. SOME OF YOU
- 00:13:31.110 --> 00:13:32.180
- HAVE BEEN WAITING A WHILE HERE. DALE'S CALLING FROM FLORENCE,
- 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:34.030
- ARIZONA ON LINE FIVE. HI, DALE. -HOW ARE YOU? -YES, SIR. GOOD.
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- -I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION. -SURE. -WE JOIN THE
- 00:13:38.020 --> 00:13:41.230
- MILITARY BECAUSE WE JOIN IT. WE ARE TRAINED. WE ARE TAUGHT HOW
- 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:50.170
- TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, PROTECT PEOPLE. AND GO ON FROM THERE.
- 00:13:50.180 --> 00:13:54.160
- BUT THEN WHEN WE DO IT, OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND OTHER
- 00:13:54.170 --> 00:13:59.070
- PARTIES, THEY DON'T BACK US UP. WE'RE OVER HERE TO PROTECT
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- AMERICA, -RIGHT. -AND DO WHAT WE'RE TRAINED TO DO BUT WHEN WE
- 00:14:02.160 --> 00:14:06.210
- DO, THEN THEY TURN AROUND; IT'S LIKE THEY'RE TALKING OUT OF BOTH
- 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:09.050
- SIDES OF THEIR MOUTH. -FIRST OF ALL, DALE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
- 00:14:09.060 --> 00:14:11.110
- SERVICE, BUT I MEAN, SKIP, I MEAN, MILITARILY, THIS IS WHAT
- 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.000
- IT LOOKS LIKE. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A SOLDIER DOING AN
- 00:14:14.010 --> 00:14:17.120
- HONORABLE THING AND HE'S GETTING GREAT REVIEWS FROM HIS PEERS,
- 00:14:17.130 --> 00:14:21.010
- FELLOW SOLDIERS, SAYING HE'S THE KIND OF PERSON WE WANT TO KEEP
- 00:14:21.020 --> 00:14:23.160
- IN THE MILITARY. AND HE'S BEING PENALIZED BECAUSE HE DID THE
- 00:14:23.170 --> 00:14:26.220
- RIGHT THING. SKIP ASH: ABSOLUTELY. LOYALTY IS A 2-WAY
- 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:30.080
- STREET. YOU NEED TO BE LOYAL TO YOUR COMMANDERS AND THEY NEED TO
- 00:14:30.090 --> 00:14:33.230
- BE LOYAL TO YOU. AND WHAT WE SEE MISSING IN THIS PIECE IS THE
- 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.190
- LOYALTY DOWN TO A SUBORDINATE WHO WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
- 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.020
- HE SHOULD BE BEING DEFENDED RIGHT NOW BY HIS SUPERIORS TO
- 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:44.240
- SAY HE DID THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE RIGHT
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- REASON, AND THERE'S NO REASON TO PUNISH HIM. YET, THOSE VERY SAME
- 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.100
- LEADERS REPRIMANDED HIM AND REMOVED HIM FROM HIS POSITION.
- 00:14:50.110 --> 00:14:54.040
- -I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ANOTHER PHONE CALL. LET'S GO TO
- 00:14:54.050 --> 00:14:55.280
- JACOB CALLING FROM MINNESOTA ON LINE TWO. HI, JACOB. -I LOVE
- 00:14:55.290 --> 00:14:58.240
- WATCHING YOU ON FACEBOOK. -OH, GREAT! -I PUT YOU ON FACEBOOK
- 00:14:58.250 --> 00:15:01.220
- ON MY PHONE AND I LISTEN TO YOU WHILE I'M WORKING. -GREAT.
- 00:15:01.230 --> 00:15:04.270
- -BUT ANYWAY, I HAVEN'T BEEN, LIKE, FULL ACTIVE DUTY LIKE A
- 00:15:04.280 --> 00:15:10.230
- LOT OF THESE OTHER GENTLEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE CALLED IN, ARMY
- 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.040
- RESERVES, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE THEY SAID, ANY SOLDIER, MARINE,
- 00:15:13.050 --> 00:15:21.160
- SEAMAN, AIRMAN, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF TRAINING, BUT THE
- 00:15:21.170 --> 00:15:26.110
- UNIFORM CODE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO STEP IN AND DEFEND THOSE WHO
- 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:32.010
- CANNOT DEFEND THEMSELVES. -WELL, THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT
- 00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:35.140
- SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED HERE. AND I WANT TO QUICKLY GO TO JORDAN AND
- 00:15:35.150 --> 00:15:38.120
- THEN A FRIEND OF OURS HAS CALLED IN, WHICH IS GREAT, COLONEL WESS
- 00:15:38.130 --> 00:15:41.070
- SMITH, SO I WANT TO GET TO WESS IN A MOMENT HERE. BUT LET ME,
- 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.280
- JORDAN QUICKLY HERE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, AND JACOB IS
- 00:15:43.290 --> 00:15:46.280
- RAISING THIS, THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO ONE THING, BUT WE'VE GOT A
- 00:15:46.290 --> 00:15:49.150
- POLITICAL PROBLEM HERE. I MEAN, THIS IS A POLITICAL PROBLEM
- 00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:52.190
- RIGHT NOW. -THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU'RE BASICALLY HEARING
- 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.140
- FROM OUR LEADERS AND THE MILITARY, THAT BUREAUCRACY, THAT
- 00:15:55.150 --> 00:16:00.130
- YOU CAN'T STEP IN. SO IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE TRAINING THAT
- 00:16:00.140 --> 00:16:03.290
- YOU NEED TO STEP IN WHEN SOMETHING WRONG IS HAPPENING,
- 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.210
- ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE ON A TERRITORY, IT'S HAPPENING ON
- 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:08.180
- YOUR OWN BASE. -SO WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GOOD FRIEND
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- OF OURS, COLONEL WESS SMITH IS JOINING US, RETIRED, ALSO SERVED
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- IN THE ARMY AS CHAPLAIN AND SERVED IN DOVER FOR THE KILLED
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- IN ACTION. HE KNOWS THE MILITARY WELL; BEEN IN HARM'S WAY A
- 00:16:20.070 --> 00:16:25.190
- NUMBER OF TIMES. BUT ALSO HAPPENED TO HAVE SERVED IN THE
- 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.130
- HUMAN RESOURCES COMMAND, WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW
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- THAT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THIS GREEN BERET BE THROWN OUT OF HIS
- 00:16:31.140 --> 00:16:35.010
- SERVICE. WESS, TELL US, GIVE ME YOUR REACTION TO THIS, FIRST, AS
- 00:16:35.020 --> 00:16:39.070
- SOMEONE THAT'S SERVED, HAS A DISTINGUISHED CAREER IN THE
- 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.200
- MILITARY, WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THIS? COLONEL WESS SMITH:
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- WELL, YOU KNOW, THE ARMY, INSPITE OF ALL OF ITS STRENGTH
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- AND GOOD THINGS, IS A BUREAUCRACY WHEN ALL IS SAID AND
- 00:16:46.190 --> 00:16:49.290
- DONE. AND I THINK THE BUREAUCRACY IS WHAT'S CAUGHT UP
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- WITH THIS YOUNG SOLDIER. I WAS READING OVER SOME OF THE
- 00:16:53.150 --> 00:16:56.140
- REGULATIONS TODAY AND THE QUALITATIVE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM,
- 00:16:56.150 --> 00:16:59.180
- BY ARMY REGULATION, IT SAYS IT'S SUPPOSED TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY
- 00:16:59.190 --> 00:17:04.110
- OF THE CAREER ENLISTED FORCE AND TO DISCONTINUE UNPRODUCTIVE
- 00:17:04.120 --> 00:17:08.210
- SOLDIERS. BUT THEN WHEN YOU READ DOWN UNPRODUCTIVE HAS NOTHING TO
- 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:13.060
- DO WITH HOW WELL THEY DO THEIR JOB, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THEY
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- HAVE ANY NEGATIVE MATERIAL IN THEIR FILE; AN ARTICLE 15, A
- 00:17:16.040 --> 00:17:19.210
- LETTER OF REPRIMAND, A BAD EFFECIENCY REPORT. AND OF
- 00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:23.190
- COURSE, THIS SOLDIER HAS 2 OF THOSE THINGS. BUT IT'S ANYTHING
- 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.260
- THAT MIGHT NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROMOTION. AND SO THEY'RE
- 00:17:26.270 --> 00:17:30.050
- LOOKING STRICTLY AT THE PAPERWORK AND THEY'RE NOT
- 00:17:30.060 --> 00:17:33.030
- LOOKING AT THE LARGER PICTURE OF THIS SOLDIER'S STELLAR CAREER
- 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:37.050
- AND ALL THE MONEY THAT WENT INTO TRAINING HIM. -YES. -AND
- 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:41.160
- AGAIN, IT'S A BUREAUCRATIC KIND OF THING. -YOU KNOW, SKIP,
- 00:17:41.170 --> 00:17:44.140
- ACTUALLY WESS, BEFORE YOU CAME ON, I ACTUALLY SAID THAT, THAT
- 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:47.270
- THIS WAS THE BUREAUCRACY IN ACTION. AND SKIP, OUR JOB, NOW,
- 00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:52.230
- IS TO PEEL THAT BACK. -ABSOLUTELY. THE OTHER THING IS
- 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.100
- EVEN AFTER THIS INCIDENT THEY ALLOWED HIM TO REENLIST, WHICH
- 00:17:56.110 --> 00:18:00.090
- SAYS THAT THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THIS AS BEING OF SUCH
- 00:18:00.100 --> 00:18:03.020
- SIGNIFICANCE THAT HE COULD NOT SERVE PROPERLY. SO WHAT THEY'RE
- 00:18:03.030 --> 00:18:07.220
- DOING NOW IS USING THIS AS A MARK AS THEY TRY TO REDUCE THE
- 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:10.200
- SIZE OF THE FORCE. -RIGHT. THERE ARE ONLY 3 WAYS THAT A Q&P
- 00:18:10.210 --> 00:18:14.080
- CAN ACTUALLY BE ORIGINATED. IT CAN COME FROM THE GENERAL
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- OFFICER AND HIS COMMAND, THE COMMANDER OF HRC CAN ALSO
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- INITIATE IT, AND THEN THE G1 OF THE ARMY. AND SOMEWHERE ANOTHER,
- 00:18:23.060 --> 00:18:29.160
- AFTER HE WAS ALLOWED TO REENLIST, SOMEWHERE, SOMEONE
- 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:32.280
- DECIDED TO DO THIS. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. -NO. -BECAUSE
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- NORMALLY YOU WOULD NOT LET A GUY REENLIST. WHENEVER HE WOULD DO
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- SOMETHING THIS SERIOUS AND HE DID GET A GENERAL LETTER OF
- 00:18:40.170 --> 00:18:42.280
- REPRIMAND, WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU ALSO GET A BAR TO REENLISTMENT.
- 00:18:42.290 --> 00:18:47.030
- AND THEY DID NOT DO THAT TO HIM. -NO. -AND THEN AT THIS LATE
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- DATE THEY'RE COMING BACK AROUND TO IT. -YEAH, SO WHAT YOU'VE
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- GOT NOW, JORDAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, LEGALLY, WE'RE HEARING,
- 00:18:53.130 --> 00:18:55.280
- I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT SKIP AND WESS DEALING WITH IT FROM HOW THE
- 00:18:55.290 --> 00:19:00.090
- ARMY WORKS SIDE, BUT LEGALLY THIS POST-HOC JUSTIFICATION IS
- 00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:04.240
- NOT LEGAL. I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT. YOU CAN'T RETROACTIVELY DO
- 00:19:04.250 --> 00:19:08.100
- THINGS LIKE THIS. JORDAN SEKULOW: NO, AND THAT'S RIGHT.
- 00:19:08.110 --> 00:19:10.200
- SO THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AND HOW THIS HAS BEEN PROSECUTED AGAINST
- 00:19:10.210 --> 00:19:15.070
- SGT. MARTLAND, IF YOU WILL, IT'S BACKWARDS. IT'S NOT RIGHT. HE
- 00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:19.130
- WAS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE ON. THIS DATES BACK, AGAIN, TO 2011. AND
- 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:24.050
- SO HE'S BEEN ALLOWED TO CONTINUE SERVING. THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIONS
- 00:19:24.060 --> 00:19:27.100
- IN THESE HEARINGS AND THEN NOW, OF COURSE, WE'RE AT THIS VERY
- 00:19:27.110 --> 00:19:31.100
- CLOSE TO THE FINAL STAGE AND IT'S WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO BEGIN
- 00:19:31.110 --> 00:19:34.130
- SPEAKING OUT. -ALRIGHT, SALLY IS CALLING FROM ILLINOIS ON LINE
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- THREE. SHE'S THE MOTHER OF A SOLDIER. SALLY, THANK YOU FOR
- 00:19:37.010 --> 00:19:39.260
- YOUR FAMILY'S SERVICE. -THANK YOU. IT'S AN HONOR TO TALK TO
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- YOU, JAY. -SURE. -YOU OPEN UP AVENUES IN BEING ABLE TO RESPOND
- 00:19:43.230 --> 00:19:48.230
- TO SO MANY ISSUES AND I GET TO PUT MY NAME ON IT AND I'M SO
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- EXCITED ABOUT THAT. -GREAT. THANK YOU. -SO THANK YOU. YEAH,
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- MY SON HAS BEEN IN 17 YEARS AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING I'M
- 00:19:54.090 --> 00:20:00.080
- PASSIONATE ABOUT IT'S OUR MILITARY. -SURE. -AND OUR
- 00:20:00.090 --> 00:20:04.140
- SOLDIERS. AND THIS IS SO OUTRAGEOUS, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
- 00:20:04.150 --> 00:20:11.220
- I WOULD EXPECT THAT MY SON AND ANY OF HIS FRIENDS WOULD HAVE
- 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:16.130
- DONE THE EXACT SAME THING. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HONORABLE
- 00:20:16.140 --> 00:20:20.130
- ABOUT OUR MILITARY, IS WE ARE GOOD, UPSTANDING PEOPLE. WE ARE
- 00:20:20.140 --> 00:20:25.080
- KIND. WE ARE GENEROUS. WE LOOK OUT FOR THE LIGHT OF HEART, YOU
- 00:20:25.090 --> 00:20:32.040
- KNOW, CHILDREN. AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT
- 00:20:32.050 --> 00:20:37.170
- ONE OF OUR SOLDIERS WOULD DO THIS EXACT SAME THING. -WELL,
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- SALLY, LOOK, WE HEAR THE EMOTION IN YOUR VOICE AS A MOTHER OF A
- 00:20:42.010 --> 00:20:44.290
- SOLDIER THAT'S SERVING OUR COUNTRY CURRENTLY. AND I WANT TO
- 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.150
- GO TO COLONEL SMITH WITH THIS BECAUSE WESS SERVED AS A
- 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:52.120
- CHAPLAIN AND THIS IS HEART, I MEAN, WESS, WE'RE GETTING A LOT
- 00:20:52.130 --> 00:20:55.240
- OF CALLS FROM MILITARY THAT ARE JUST REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS.
- 00:20:55.250 --> 00:21:00.130
- -RIGHT. WELL, I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF MY CONTACTS IN SPECIAL
- 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:03.160
- FORCES, AND TO A PERSON THERE TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF SGT.
- 00:21:03.170 --> 00:21:09.060
- MARTLAND AND THEY'RE JUST REALLY UPSET THAT THIS IS GOING ON. I
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- MEAN, HE WAS A STELLAR INDIVIDUAL. HIS TEAMMATES, HIS
- 00:21:13.080 --> 00:21:16.080
- GROUP COMMANDER, EVERYBODY BELIEVES IN HIM. AND YET, THIS
- 00:21:16.090 --> 00:21:19.080
- HAS GONE TO ECHELONS, YOU KNOW, ABOVE THAT. AND THE INTERESTING
- 00:21:19.090 --> 00:21:22.240
- THING ABOUT IT, JAY, IS THAT IF YOU READ THE ARMY REGULATIONS
- 00:21:22.250 --> 00:21:26.210
- AND HUMAN RESOURCES COMMANDS, THEIR POLICIES, THIS IS NOT
- 00:21:26.220 --> 00:21:31.070
- SUPPOSED TO BE USED AS A FORCED MANAGEMENT TOOL. -RIGHT. -YOU
- 00:21:31.080 --> 00:21:35.020
- KNOW, THE GOAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS TO REDUCE THE
- 00:21:35.030 --> 00:21:37.060
- ARMY TO 450.000 SOLDIERS AND YET, BUT BY REGULATION YOU USE
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- OTHER FORMULAS TO REDUCE THE FORCE BUT IN MY HEART I THINK
- 00:21:42.140 --> 00:21:46.190
- THEY ARE USING THE Q&P AS A FORCED MANAGEMENT TOOL TO TRY TO
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- GET DOWN TO THE 450.000 LEVEL. I MEAN, LAST YEAR ALONE 880 PEOPLE
- 00:21:50.120 --> 00:21:55.170
- WERE PUT OUT OF THE ARMY UNDER THIS SAME PROGRAM THAT MARTLAND
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- IS GOING THROUGH. -JORDAN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE WESS
- 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.250
- RAISED THIS, SO HAS SKIP, SO WE'VE GOT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
- 00:22:03.260 --> 00:22:06.080
- THAT'S BEEN TALKING WITH OUR FRIEND CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN
- 00:22:06.090 --> 00:22:09.070
- HUNTER, AND HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT WESS SAID. WESS HAS CONFIRMED
- 00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:12.140
- WITH HIS COLLEAGUES THAT SGT. MARTLAND'S PEERS AND COMMANDERS
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- CONSIDER HIM AN EXEMPLARY SOLDIER. WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT
- 00:22:18.050 --> 00:22:21.190
- INSPECTOR GENERAL INFORMATION WITH CONGRESSMAN HUNTER AND
- 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:24.210
- BUILD OUT THE SUPPORT FROM THERE. -ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S
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- WHERE WE, THIS IS A STARTING POINT TODAY ON THIS BROADCAST.
- 00:22:27.190 --> 00:22:31.060
- WE'VE INFORMED ABOUT IT BEFORE BUT THIS IS A TIME WE'VE GOT TO
- 00:22:31.070 --> 00:22:33.160
- TAKE ACTION BECAUSE THEY'RE STARTING TO MOVE IN THE ARMED
- 00:22:33.170 --> 00:22:37.000
- FORCES; TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR SGT. MARTLAND. WE, AS A COMBINED
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- FORCE OF FOLKS, GRASSROOTS ARMY AS SUCH, AGAIN, FROM ACROSS THE
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- COUNTRY WE'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY VETERANS AND THOSE WHO SERVE AND
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- FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO ARE SERVING OUR COUNTRY, THIS IS
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- YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A STAND. -THAT'S GOING TO DO IT
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- FOR THE BROADCAST TODAY. LET ME ASK YOU TO PRAY FOR SGT.
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- MARTLAND AND HIS FAMILY. THIS IS SOMEONE THAT HAS SERVED OUR
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- MILITARY AND SERVED OUR COUNTRY WELL. HE'S PROTECTING A YOUNG
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- KID AND HE'S BEING REPRIMANDED AND THROWN OUT OF THE ARMY.
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- WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT BACK AND YOU CAN HELP US DO IT. AND I
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- APPRECIATE EVERY WEEK WE CAN COME TO YOU ON THIS BROADCAST ON
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- TBN. AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THIS AIRTIME, YOU
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- KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? WE'RE ABLE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE SGT.
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- MARTLAND AND I CAN LAWYERS AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS PEOPLE ALL
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- OVER THE WORLD WORKING ON THESE CASES. SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
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- YOU TO SUPPORT TBN. PRAY FOR TBN. PRAY FOR OUR LAWYERS AT THE
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- ACLJ BUT PRAY FOR SGT. MARTLAND AS WELL. THAT'S GOING TO DO IT
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- FOR OUR BROADCAST THIS WEEK. WE'LL TALK TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
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