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ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow, "Defend A Hero: Sgt. Marland" Part 2

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ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow, "Defend A Hero: Sgt. Marland" Part 2

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [ANNOUNCER] LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW
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  • LIVE. PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • AND NOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
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  • AND JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW! JAY SEKULOW: HEY, WELCOME TO THE
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  • BROADCAST EVERYONE. WE'RE THRILLED OUR TELEVISION AUDIENCE
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  • IS HERE. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE GOT. WE WANT TO SUPPORT
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  • OUR MEN AND WOMEN SERVING IN THE MILITARY AND I KNOW THIS NETWORK
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  • SURE HAS. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. AND WE, AT THE ACLJ,
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  • HAVE A UNIT INSIDE THE ACLJ DEDICATED TO WORKING WITH MEN
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  • AND WOMEN SERVING IN THE MILITARY AND DEVELOPING THESE
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  • ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE MILITARY AND WE'VE GOT A BIG ONE. SGT.
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  • MARTLAND: NOW YOU MAY NOT KNOW HIM. HE'S NOT A HOUSEHOLD WORD
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  • AND I THINK THAT'S, FRANKLY, PART OF THE PROBLEM. SGT.
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  • CHARLES MARTLAND IS A DECORATED MILITARY HERO, A GREEN BERET;
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  • SERVED VALIANTLY IN AFGHANISTAN. WAS IN AN OUTPOST, A MILITARY
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  • OUTPOST, A UNITED STATES MILITARY OUTPOST IN AFGHANISTAN.
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  • HE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GREEN BERETS WERE THERE
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  • AND WITNESSED AND SAW AN AFGHAN COMMANDER, AN AFGHAN COMMANDER
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  • THAT WAS ON THE BASE, SEXUALLY ABUSING A YOUNG BOY. AND SGT.
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  • MARTLAND WENT IN TO STOP IT; REMOVED THE COMMANDER OFF THE
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  • BASE. REPORTED WHAT THE COMMANDER HAD DONE TO THIS YOUNG
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  • BOY. AND YOU KNOW WHO'S BEING REPRIMANDED? SGT. MARTLAND. AND
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  • THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES OF
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  • AMERICA? WE PROTECT CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY ON U.S. SOIL OR AT A
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  • U.S. MILITARY BASE. THIS WAS AN AFGHAN COMMANDER THAT WAS
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  • AUTHORIZED TO BE ON THE BASE BUT WAS ABUSING THIS CHILD. SOME
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  • WILL SAY OR ARGUE, WELL, THAT WAS THE CULTURE OVER THERE. YOU
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  • KNOW WHAT? THAT'S NOT THE CULTURE ANYWHERE? THAT VIOLATES
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  • EVERY INTERNATIONAL NORM AND EVERY INTERNATIONAL HUMAN
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  • RIGHT'S THAT ALL OF THESE GOVERNMENTS HAVE SIGNED ON TO.
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  • JORDAN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PRACTICALITIES ON THE GROUND OF
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  • WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO SUCCEED IN THIS NOW VERY
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  • NARROW WINDOW OF APPEAL THAT'S LEFT. THIS IS A MAJOR EFFORT
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  • HERE. JORDAN SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT TO HELP CONGRESSMAN HUNTER BUILD
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  • A LOT OF CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT. HE SPEAKS, OBVIOUSLY, HE'S GOT A
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  • LOT OF INFLUENCE WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES INVOLVING OUR ARMED
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  • FORCES AND WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, MEMBERS OF THE
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  • UNITED STATES SENATE; A BIPARTISAN EFFORT. THAT STARTS
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  • WITH YOUR GRASSROOTS ENGAGEMENT TODAY AS YOU'RE LISTENING TO
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  • THIS BROADCAST; GETTING INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE AT
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  • ACLJ.ORG OR BY PHONE AT 877-989-2255. WE NEED YOU TO
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  • TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP OF GRASSROOTS ENGAGEMENT. WE KNOW
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  • IN THE PAST THIS IS HOW YOU GET A POSITIVE RESULT IN THESE
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  • SITUATIONS. IT COMES, ULTIMATELY, DOWN TO IMPACTING
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  • THOSE WHO CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS VERY EASY. THEY CAN
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  • GET INVOLVED AND PUT A HAULT TO THIS, TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE
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  • WHITE HOUSE. WE NEED YOUR HELP TODAY. -TIM'S CALLING FROM
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  • SOUTH CAROLINA. HI, TIM. -I'D JUST TO KNOW WHY OBAMA DOES NOT
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  • JUMP INTO THE FRAY AS FAST AS HE DOES TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND
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  • OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF THE MILITARY AS FAST AS HE DOES FOR
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  • THE ALL THE TERRORISTS, THE ILLEGALS, -HERE'S WHY: RIGHT
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  • NOW IT'S NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION THAT IT NEEDS TO GET.
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  • I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH. IT'S NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION
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  • IT NEEDS TO GET. SO WE'VE GOT A BIG JOB HERE AND THAT IS, TIM,
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  • WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS TO GET ATTENTION. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE
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  • GOT ALL OF OUR RESOURCES, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO RUN THIS ON
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  • OUR REGULAR TELEVISION BROADCAST AS WELL. WE'VE GOT TO GET
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  • ATTENTION TO THIS. IT IS THAT CRITICAL. WITHOUT THE ATTENTION,
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  • JORDAN, CONGRESSMAN HUNTER CAN'T DO THIS BY HIMSELF. -NO. WE
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  • NEED THAT GRASSROOTS OUTCRY; THE SUPPORT TO REALLY SWELL ACROSS
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  • THE COUNTRY. IT NEEDS TO BE THOSE, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE
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  • HAVE MANY LISTENERS OF THIS BROADCAST WHO HAVE FAMILY
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  • MEMBERS WHO ARE VETERANS THEMSELVES, WHO HAVE FAMILY
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  • MEMBERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY SERVING, AND THIS IS A TIME FOR
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  • YOU TO REALLY TAKE A STAND. IT SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE.
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  • IT'S NOT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT ISSUE. AT THIS POINT,
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  • AT THIS STAGE, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET THE ATTENTION OF
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  • MORE OF OUR LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT AND THIS IS OUR
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  • OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. -ALRIGHT, MORGAN'S CALLING FROM PORTLAND,
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  • CT ON LINE FOUR. HI, MORGAN. -HI, JAY. HOW ARE YOU? -GOOD.
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  • -I'M A VETERAN AND MY HUSBAND'S A RETIRED NAVY VET. -THANK YOU
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  • BOTH FOR YOUR SERVICE. -OH, THANK YOU. WELL, I'M SITTING
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  • HERE THINKING, YOU KNOW, FROM THE DAY WE ENTERED BOOT CAMP,
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  • WE'RE TAUGHT TO HAVE MORAL CHARACTER. WE'RE TAUGHT TO HAVE
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  • RESPECT AND HONOR. -YES. -AND I FEEL LIKE THIS GUY IS, HE'S
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  • BEING PERSECUTED FOR WHAT WE WERE ALL TAUGHT FROM DAY 1.
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  • -RIGHT. -AND I'M SURE HE ENTERED THE MILITARY ACTUALLY
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  • HAVING THIS CHARACTER BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, PEOPLE DON'T JUST
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  • GO INTO THE MILITARY BECAUSE THEY WANT THE MONEY. GOD KNOWS
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  • IT'S NOT FOR THE MONEY. YOU KNOW? SO THEY GO IN FOR A
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  • PURPOSE AND THAT'S TO SERVE. AND IT'S TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN;
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  • OUR FAMILIES. -RIGHT! -OUR WIVES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, OUR
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  • HUSBANDS AND EVERYTHING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I SIT HERE AND I SEE
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  • AN INNOCENT CHILD JUST BEING ABUSED, -RIGHT. ON A MILITARY
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  • BASE CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED STATES. -ON A MILITARY BASE!
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  • THAT IS LIKE AMERICAN SOIL, CONSIDERED. -EXACTLY. -AND I'M
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  • SORRY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER IF IT WASN'T
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  • AMERICAN SOIL, -BUT IT IS. -I UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S THEIR
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  • CULTURE OR WHATEVER, -TECHNICALLY IT'S UNDER OUR
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  • CONTROL. THANK YOU MORGAN AND YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SERVICE,
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  • SKIP, SHE BRINGS UP A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT HERE AND THAT IS
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  • WHAT DO YOU EXPECT A TRAINED SOLDIER TO DO? LOOK THE OTHER
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  • WAY? -ANY TRAINED SOLDIER WHO'S AN HONORABLE INDIVIDUAL AND SGT.
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  • MARTLAND DEFINITELY WAS, WOULD TAKE EXACTLY THE ACTION HE DID.
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  • HE STOPPED THE ABUSE OF THE CHILD. HE CONFRONTED THE ABUSER
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  • AND TOSSED THE ABUSER OFF THE INSTALLATION. AND THEN IT WAS
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  • REPORTED UP AND HE WAS REPRIMANDED, RELIEVED, AND
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  • REMOVED FROM THAT POSITION. THAT'S WHERE THE MISTAKE
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  • HAPPENED AND THAT'S WHERE THE FAULT SHOULD LIE AND THE
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  • MILITARY SHOULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO HAD SUCH FAULTY
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  • JUDGEMENT TO REACT THAT WAY AND TO PUNISH THE PERSON WHO WAS
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  • RIGHT, TO MAKE HIM THE CRIMINAL IN THIS ACTIVITY, NOT THE ONE
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  • WHO ACTUALLY PERPETRATED THE CRIME. -WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE ON
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  • SGT. MARTLAND'S CASE WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK.
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  • JAY SEKULOW: SO LET ME
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  • GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING US OR YOU'RE
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  • HEARING THIS PROGRAM TAPE DELAYED OR MAYBE OUR FRIENDS ON
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  • KKLA, YOU HEAR THIS PORTION OF THE BROADCAST AT 6 O'CLOCK. LET
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  • ME TELL YOU WHAT'S HAPPENED, SGT. MARTLAND, A DECORATED GREEN
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  • BERET, SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN WITH HONOR AND DISTINCTION ENDS
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  • UP IN A SITUATION WHERE HE WITNESSES FIRST HAND WITH OTHER
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  • MARINES, OTHER GREEN BERETS, RATHER, HE WITNESSES FIRST HAND
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  • AN ABUSE BY AN AFGHAN COMMANDER ON THE BASE AT AN OUTPOST
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  • AGAINST A YOUNG BOY AND HE INTERVENES; PULLS THEM APART,
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  • TAKES THE AFGHAN COMMANDER OFF THE BASE. FOR THAT SGT. MARTLAND
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  • IS BEING REMOVED FROM THE MILITARY UNDER THIS
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  • REORGANIZATION PLAN OF THE MILITARY AND SHRINKING OF THE
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  • MILITARY. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO SERVED WITH HONOR AND
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  • DISTINCTION. NOW SKIP, WE'VE HIT 2 LEVELS OF APPEAL HERE WITHOUT
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  • SUCCESS SO IF WE GO UP 1 LEVEL NOW, THIS ONE, WE WERE JUST
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  • TALKING DURING THE BREAK, THIS IS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. SKIP
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  • ASH: IT IS MORE COMPLICATED. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, I MEAN, THESE
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  • PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE THEIR
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  • GUIDANCE AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT RECORDS. SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING
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  • AT THE WHOLE CONTEXT. IT'S THE POLITICAL LEADERS, THE PEOPLE
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  • WHO ARE THE FINAL DECISION MAKERS WHO NEED TO LOOK AT THIS
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  • IN CONTEXT. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONE OF THE
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  • REASON THAT THEY ACTED WAS BECAUSE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF
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  • BEING OVER THERE WAS THE WIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE.
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  • AND THE PEOPLE WERE VIEWING THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT AS BEING WORSE
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  • THAN OUR ENEMIES. -YEAH. -SO THEY HAD TO STOP IT AND THEY DID
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  • STOP IT. -JORDAN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT
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  • THIS ALSO DURING THE BREAK, OUR FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK AND
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  • PERISCOPE HAVE HEARD IT, BUT MOST OF OUR AUDIENCE HAS NOT,
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  • DUNCAN HUNTER, THE CONGRESSMAN, IS RUNNING LEAD ON THIS, BUT
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  • WE'VE GOT TO GET MUCH BROADER BASED REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT
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  • CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT HERE TO MOVE THIS. JORDAN SEKULOW:
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  • THAT'S RIGHT IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. WE NEED THIS FROM
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  • EVERY POTENTIAL MEMBER OF CONRESS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
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  • SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT KIND OF PRESSURE TO
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  • GET A POSITIVE OUTCOME. AND THAT WILL START WITH THE GRASSROOTS
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  • MOVEMENT RIGHT HERE ON THIS BROADCAST TODAY. -CHRISTOPHER
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  • IS CALLING FROM OKLAHOMA ON LINE SIX. CHRISTOPHER, WELCOME TO THE
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  • BROADCAST. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -YES, SIR. HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
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  • -GOOD, SIR. -I'M AN ARMY INFANTRY VETERAN. I DID 2 COMBAT
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  • TOURS TO IRAQ. -THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. -THANK YOU. -WE
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  • WERE TOLD BOTH MY DEPLOYMENTS, IF WE WITNESSED A SEXUAL
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  • ASSAULT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S ON MAN, WOMAN, OR CHILD, WE
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  • WERE TO STOP IT HOWEVER WE COULD. -AND THAT IS THE ORDER
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  • THAT MAKES SENSE, CHRIS. AND SKIP, YOU'VE SERVED IN THE
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  • MILITARY A LONG TIME AS AN OFFICER IN THE MILITARY, AND
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  • THAT, TO ME, MAKES SENSE. IF YOU SEE IT, YOU STOP IT. -THAT'S
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  • EXALTY RIGHT. I MEAN, SEXUAL ASSAULT VIOLATES UNIFORM CODE OF
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  • MILITARY JUSTICE, IT VIOLATES INTERNATIONAL LAW AND I'M SURE
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  • IT VIOLATED IRAQI LAW. SO YOU ARE JUST ACTING IN ACCORDANCE
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  • WITH LAW WHEN YOU STOP THAT KIND OF CONDUCT. -SOMEBODY ON
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  • PERISCOPE JUST SAID, WHAT DO THEY DO? EXPECT OUR MILITARY TO
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  • LOOK THE OTHER WAY? APPARENTLY SOMEBODY DOES. SO SKIP, HOW THEN
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  • DOES THIS HAPPEN, I KNOW THEY'RE DOWNSIZING THE MILITARY, AND TO
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  • ME THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WROTE ABOUT IN OUR BOOK
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  • "UNDEMOCRATIC". THIS IS THE BUREAUCRACY NOT REALIZING, OR
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  • MAYBE INTENTIONALY DOING THIS, BUT THE BUREAUCRACY TAKING
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  • CONTROL OF A SITUATION RATHER THAN REALIZING THIS IS A
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  • DECORATED SOLDIER THAT'S REALLY BEING HARMED BY THIS.
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  • -ABSOLUTELY. IN FACT, THIS WHOLE ISSUE IN AFGHANISTAN,
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  • THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT REPORT, MARINES, AND ARMY PEOPLE
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  • WHO REPORT THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT GOING ON, AND REPORTED THAT THEY
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  • HAD BEEN TOLD THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERVENE, WHICH MEANS
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  • SOMEONE IN THE U.S. CHAIN OF COMMAND HAD PROMULGATED A
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  • POLICY, A HIGHER UP, THAT SAID THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERVENE.
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  • AND THAT IS AN UNLAWFUL ORDER AND THAT'S THE PERSON, OR THOSE
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  • ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SHOULD BE
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  • LOOKING FOR AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE EJECTED, NOT
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  • SOMEONE WHO ACTED HONORABLY. -ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE BASICALLY AT
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  • THE FINAL STAGE OF APPEAL FOR SGT. MARTLAND'S CASE, SKIP, IS
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  • THAT CORRECT? -THAT'S CORRECT. IT'LL PROBABLY GO FROM HERE TO
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  • THE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITIES WHO ARE EITHER GOING TO APPROVE
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  • IT OR DISAPPROVE IT AND IT'S MORE UNLIKELY HE'S GOING TO
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  • APPROVE IT UNLESS THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF PRESSURE FROM
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  • OUTSIDE. -WE'VE GOT TO GET THE OUTSIDE PRESSURE REALLY GOING
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  • HERE FOLKS. AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. LET'S TAKE CHARLIE, WHO'S
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  • CALLING FROM ODESSA, FL. ALSO A MARINE VETERAN. CHARLIE, THANK
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  • YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTRY. GO AHEAD PLEASE.
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  • -THANK YOU, JAY. YEAH, CHARLIE THE PLUMMER FROM SUNNY ODESSA,
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  • FL. -YES, SIR. -I'M A MARINE CORP VETERAN AND I LOVE MY
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  • COUNTRY AND THIS SERGEANT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE ACCOMMODATION, HE
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  • SHOULD BE GIVEN A MEDAL, HE SHOULD BE GIVEN A PROMOTION. HE
  • 00:10:36.050 --> 00:10:38.270
  • WAS ONLY DOING THE RIGHT THING. HEY, IF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN, IF
  • 00:10:38.280 --> 00:10:41.250
  • I WAS THERE WITH A BUNCH OF MARINES AND WE SAW HIM RAPING
  • 00:10:41.260 --> 00:10:45.230
  • THIS LITTLE BOY, WHICH THAT'S IN THEIR CULTURE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:50.130
  • THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO PROBLEM WITH THAT GUY LEAVING THAT PLACE
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  • ALIVE. -YOU KNOW, ALL HE DID, CHARLIE, THIS IS WHAT, TO ME, IS
  • 00:10:53.220 --> 00:10:57.100
  • SO FRUSTRATING ABOUT THIS CASE, HE SEPARATED THEM, AND REMOVED
  • 00:10:57.110 --> 00:11:02.070
  • HIM OFF THE BASE. AND JORDAN, HE SHOULD BE GETTING, LIKE CHARLIE
  • 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:05.170
  • SAID, HE SHOULD BE GETTING COMMENDATIONS FOR THAT. -YEAH,
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  • I MEAN, YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW THIS COULD ESCALATE TO A MUCH MORE
  • 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:11.030
  • DIFFICULT SITUATION. INSTEAD, THOUGH, USING HIS TRAINING AND
  • 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:14.150
  • USING HIS KNOWLEDGE AND I THINK, BEING AS SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE
  • 00:11:14.160 --> 00:11:18.120
  • TO THE SITUATION, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FAMILY ASKED THEM TO
  • 00:11:18.130 --> 00:11:21.180
  • INTERVENE, HE GOT INVOLVED AND REMOVED THE INDIVIDUAL. COULD IT
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  • HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE ROUGH? YES, BUT IT DIDN'T ESCALATE TO A
  • 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:27.280
  • REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE WAS SERIOUSLY INUJRED
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  • AND HURT IN THE PROCESS. AND THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT
  • 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:35.060
  • THIS, IN ANY WAY, HAMPERED OUR EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN EITHER.
  • 00:11:35.070 --> 00:11:40.120
  • -RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOT. ALRIGHT, DONNI IS CALLING
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  • ON LINE FIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. HI, DONNI. WELCOME THE
  • 00:11:44.030 --> 00:11:46.260
  • BROADCAST. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -HI. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH
  • 00:11:46.270 --> 00:11:50.100
  • THE LAST CALLER. I THINK THE SERGEANT SHOULD BE AWARDED.
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  • -RIGHT. -I MEAN, I THINK THE POLICY MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE
  • 00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:56.290
  • WHERE YOU JUST REPORT AFTERWARDS AND SOMETHING MIGHT BE DONE, AND
  • 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.140
  • PROBABLY WILL NOT BE DONE AFTER THE ACTION HAS ALREADY TAKEN
  • 00:12:00.150 --> 00:12:03.000
  • PLACE AND THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE. -YES, SO YOU'RE TALKING
  • 00:12:03.010 --> 00:12:05.160
  • ABOUT WHEN THE COMMANDER SAID REPORT UP THE CHAIN. DO WE HAVE
  • 00:12:05.170 --> 00:12:08.180
  • THAT SOUND BITE? LET'S GO AHEAD. LET ME PLAY FOR EVERYBODY SO WE
  • 00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:12.060
  • KNOW WHAT DONNI'S TALKING ABOUT. HERE'S WHAT WAS SAID: -THE
  • 00:12:12.070 --> 00:12:14.150
  • MILITARY'S POLICY WHEN A SERVICE MEMBER BECOMES AWARE OF AN
  • 00:12:14.160 --> 00:12:16.230
  • INSTANCE OF ABUSE. -WHAT I SAID IN A PRESS RELEASE A WEEK OR SO
  • 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:19.240
  • AGO WAS THAT THERE IS NO POLICY THAT SAYS DISREGARD THAT. WHAT
  • 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:23.230
  • OUR POLICY HAS SAID SINCE 2011 IS THAT YOU HAVE TO REPORT
  • 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:28.200
  • INSTANCES OF SEXUAL ABUSE BY THE AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES UP YOUR
  • 00:12:28.210 --> 00:12:32.060
  • CHAIN OF COMMAND. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT OF ALL OUR MEN AND
  • 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:35.200
  • WOMEN SERVING AFGHANISTAN TO BE ABLE TO DO. -THIS WAS, BY THE
  • 00:12:35.210 --> 00:12:38.240
  • WAY, A QUESTION BY SENATOR GILLIBRAND, WHO'S A DEMOCRATIC
  • 00:12:38.250 --> 00:12:40.260
  • SENATOR FROM NEW YORK. SKIP, WHAT ABOUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE
  • 00:12:40.270 --> 00:12:44.110
  • DEFENSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, REPORT UP THE CHAIN? -WELL, I'M
  • 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:47.140
  • SURE THERE WAS A REPORT UP THE CHAIN. I MEAN, HE HANDLED IT AND
  • 00:12:47.150 --> 00:12:50.160
  • THEN HE REPORTED IT UP THE CHAIN. OTHERWISE, WHY WOULD THEY
  • 00:12:50.170 --> 00:12:52.290
  • HAVE KNOWN TO REPRIMAND HIM? SO THE ISSUE IS IT WAS REPORTED UP
  • 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.230
  • BOTH CHAINS, THE AMERICAN CHAIN, AND THE AFGHAN OFFICIAL WHO WAS
  • 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:01.020
  • OFFENDED PROBABLY COMPLAINED. BUT THE ISSUE WAS HE HANDLED THE
  • 00:13:01.030 --> 00:13:05.110
  • PROBLEM AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED AND THEN IT WENT UP OUR
  • 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.240
  • CHAIN, BECAUSE OUR MILITARY LEADERS WERE AWARE OF IT.
  • 00:13:07.250 --> 00:13:11.040
  • -WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT INCLUDING THE LEGAL ISSUES
  • 00:13:11.050 --> 00:13:14.070
  • SURROUNDING THIS CASE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MOBILIZE
  • 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.010
  • ACTION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PROTECT, THE BEST WE CAN, TO GET
  • 00:13:17.020 --> 00:13:20.110
  • PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS SERGEANT. BACK WITH MORE IN A MOMENT.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • JAY SEKULOW: I WANT
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  • TO GO RIGHT TO THE PHONES. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CALLS. SOME OF YOU
  • 00:13:31.110 --> 00:13:32.180
  • HAVE BEEN WAITING A WHILE HERE. DALE'S CALLING FROM FLORENCE,
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  • ARIZONA ON LINE FIVE. HI, DALE. -HOW ARE YOU? -YES, SIR. GOOD.
  • 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:38.010
  • -I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION. -SURE. -WE JOIN THE
  • 00:13:38.020 --> 00:13:41.230
  • MILITARY BECAUSE WE JOIN IT. WE ARE TRAINED. WE ARE TAUGHT HOW
  • 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:50.170
  • TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, PROTECT PEOPLE. AND GO ON FROM THERE.
  • 00:13:50.180 --> 00:13:54.160
  • BUT THEN WHEN WE DO IT, OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND OTHER
  • 00:13:54.170 --> 00:13:59.070
  • PARTIES, THEY DON'T BACK US UP. WE'RE OVER HERE TO PROTECT
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  • AMERICA, -RIGHT. -AND DO WHAT WE'RE TRAINED TO DO BUT WHEN WE
  • 00:14:02.160 --> 00:14:06.210
  • DO, THEN THEY TURN AROUND; IT'S LIKE THEY'RE TALKING OUT OF BOTH
  • 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:09.050
  • SIDES OF THEIR MOUTH. -FIRST OF ALL, DALE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
  • 00:14:09.060 --> 00:14:11.110
  • SERVICE, BUT I MEAN, SKIP, I MEAN, MILITARILY, THIS IS WHAT
  • 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.000
  • IT LOOKS LIKE. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A SOLDIER DOING AN
  • 00:14:14.010 --> 00:14:17.120
  • HONORABLE THING AND HE'S GETTING GREAT REVIEWS FROM HIS PEERS,
  • 00:14:17.130 --> 00:14:21.010
  • FELLOW SOLDIERS, SAYING HE'S THE KIND OF PERSON WE WANT TO KEEP
  • 00:14:21.020 --> 00:14:23.160
  • IN THE MILITARY. AND HE'S BEING PENALIZED BECAUSE HE DID THE
  • 00:14:23.170 --> 00:14:26.220
  • RIGHT THING. SKIP ASH: ABSOLUTELY. LOYALTY IS A 2-WAY
  • 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:30.080
  • STREET. YOU NEED TO BE LOYAL TO YOUR COMMANDERS AND THEY NEED TO
  • 00:14:30.090 --> 00:14:33.230
  • BE LOYAL TO YOU. AND WHAT WE SEE MISSING IN THIS PIECE IS THE
  • 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.190
  • LOYALTY DOWN TO A SUBORDINATE WHO WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
  • 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.020
  • HE SHOULD BE BEING DEFENDED RIGHT NOW BY HIS SUPERIORS TO
  • 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:44.240
  • SAY HE DID THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE RIGHT
  • 00:14:44.250 --> 00:14:47.110
  • REASON, AND THERE'S NO REASON TO PUNISH HIM. YET, THOSE VERY SAME
  • 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.100
  • LEADERS REPRIMANDED HIM AND REMOVED HIM FROM HIS POSITION.
  • 00:14:50.110 --> 00:14:54.040
  • -I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ANOTHER PHONE CALL. LET'S GO TO
  • 00:14:54.050 --> 00:14:55.280
  • JACOB CALLING FROM MINNESOTA ON LINE TWO. HI, JACOB. -I LOVE
  • 00:14:55.290 --> 00:14:58.240
  • WATCHING YOU ON FACEBOOK. -OH, GREAT! -I PUT YOU ON FACEBOOK
  • 00:14:58.250 --> 00:15:01.220
  • ON MY PHONE AND I LISTEN TO YOU WHILE I'M WORKING. -GREAT.
  • 00:15:01.230 --> 00:15:04.270
  • -BUT ANYWAY, I HAVEN'T BEEN, LIKE, FULL ACTIVE DUTY LIKE A
  • 00:15:04.280 --> 00:15:10.230
  • LOT OF THESE OTHER GENTLEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE CALLED IN, ARMY
  • 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.040
  • RESERVES, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE THEY SAID, ANY SOLDIER, MARINE,
  • 00:15:13.050 --> 00:15:21.160
  • SEAMAN, AIRMAN, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF TRAINING, BUT THE
  • 00:15:21.170 --> 00:15:26.110
  • UNIFORM CODE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO STEP IN AND DEFEND THOSE WHO
  • 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:32.010
  • CANNOT DEFEND THEMSELVES. -WELL, THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT
  • 00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:35.140
  • SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED HERE. AND I WANT TO QUICKLY GO TO JORDAN AND
  • 00:15:35.150 --> 00:15:38.120
  • THEN A FRIEND OF OURS HAS CALLED IN, WHICH IS GREAT, COLONEL WESS
  • 00:15:38.130 --> 00:15:41.070
  • SMITH, SO I WANT TO GET TO WESS IN A MOMENT HERE. BUT LET ME,
  • 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.280
  • JORDAN QUICKLY HERE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, AND JACOB IS
  • 00:15:43.290 --> 00:15:46.280
  • RAISING THIS, THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO ONE THING, BUT WE'VE GOT A
  • 00:15:46.290 --> 00:15:49.150
  • POLITICAL PROBLEM HERE. I MEAN, THIS IS A POLITICAL PROBLEM
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  • RIGHT NOW. -THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU'RE BASICALLY HEARING
  • 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.140
  • FROM OUR LEADERS AND THE MILITARY, THAT BUREAUCRACY, THAT
  • 00:15:55.150 --> 00:16:00.130
  • YOU CAN'T STEP IN. SO IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE TRAINING THAT
  • 00:16:00.140 --> 00:16:03.290
  • YOU NEED TO STEP IN WHEN SOMETHING WRONG IS HAPPENING,
  • 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.210
  • ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE ON A TERRITORY, IT'S HAPPENING ON
  • 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:08.180
  • YOUR OWN BASE. -SO WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GOOD FRIEND
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  • OF OURS, COLONEL WESS SMITH IS JOINING US, RETIRED, ALSO SERVED
  • 00:16:11.130 --> 00:16:15.110
  • IN THE ARMY AS CHAPLAIN AND SERVED IN DOVER FOR THE KILLED
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  • IN ACTION. HE KNOWS THE MILITARY WELL; BEEN IN HARM'S WAY A
  • 00:16:20.070 --> 00:16:25.190
  • NUMBER OF TIMES. BUT ALSO HAPPENED TO HAVE SERVED IN THE
  • 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.130
  • HUMAN RESOURCES COMMAND, WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW
  • 00:16:28.140 --> 00:16:31.130
  • THAT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THIS GREEN BERET BE THROWN OUT OF HIS
  • 00:16:31.140 --> 00:16:35.010
  • SERVICE. WESS, TELL US, GIVE ME YOUR REACTION TO THIS, FIRST, AS
  • 00:16:35.020 --> 00:16:39.070
  • SOMEONE THAT'S SERVED, HAS A DISTINGUISHED CAREER IN THE
  • 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.200
  • MILITARY, WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THIS? COLONEL WESS SMITH:
  • 00:16:41.210 --> 00:16:44.090
  • WELL, YOU KNOW, THE ARMY, INSPITE OF ALL OF ITS STRENGTH
  • 00:16:44.100 --> 00:16:46.180
  • AND GOOD THINGS, IS A BUREAUCRACY WHEN ALL IS SAID AND
  • 00:16:46.190 --> 00:16:49.290
  • DONE. AND I THINK THE BUREAUCRACY IS WHAT'S CAUGHT UP
  • 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.140
  • WITH THIS YOUNG SOLDIER. I WAS READING OVER SOME OF THE
  • 00:16:53.150 --> 00:16:56.140
  • REGULATIONS TODAY AND THE QUALITATIVE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM,
  • 00:16:56.150 --> 00:16:59.180
  • BY ARMY REGULATION, IT SAYS IT'S SUPPOSED TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY
  • 00:16:59.190 --> 00:17:04.110
  • OF THE CAREER ENLISTED FORCE AND TO DISCONTINUE UNPRODUCTIVE
  • 00:17:04.120 --> 00:17:08.210
  • SOLDIERS. BUT THEN WHEN YOU READ DOWN UNPRODUCTIVE HAS NOTHING TO
  • 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:13.060
  • DO WITH HOW WELL THEY DO THEIR JOB, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THEY
  • 00:17:13.070 --> 00:17:16.030
  • HAVE ANY NEGATIVE MATERIAL IN THEIR FILE; AN ARTICLE 15, A
  • 00:17:16.040 --> 00:17:19.210
  • LETTER OF REPRIMAND, A BAD EFFECIENCY REPORT. AND OF
  • 00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:23.190
  • COURSE, THIS SOLDIER HAS 2 OF THOSE THINGS. BUT IT'S ANYTHING
  • 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.260
  • THAT MIGHT NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROMOTION. AND SO THEY'RE
  • 00:17:26.270 --> 00:17:30.050
  • LOOKING STRICTLY AT THE PAPERWORK AND THEY'RE NOT
  • 00:17:30.060 --> 00:17:33.030
  • LOOKING AT THE LARGER PICTURE OF THIS SOLDIER'S STELLAR CAREER
  • 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:37.050
  • AND ALL THE MONEY THAT WENT INTO TRAINING HIM. -YES. -AND
  • 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:41.160
  • AGAIN, IT'S A BUREAUCRATIC KIND OF THING. -YOU KNOW, SKIP,
  • 00:17:41.170 --> 00:17:44.140
  • ACTUALLY WESS, BEFORE YOU CAME ON, I ACTUALLY SAID THAT, THAT
  • 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:47.270
  • THIS WAS THE BUREAUCRACY IN ACTION. AND SKIP, OUR JOB, NOW,
  • 00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:52.230
  • IS TO PEEL THAT BACK. -ABSOLUTELY. THE OTHER THING IS
  • 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.100
  • EVEN AFTER THIS INCIDENT THEY ALLOWED HIM TO REENLIST, WHICH
  • 00:17:56.110 --> 00:18:00.090
  • SAYS THAT THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THIS AS BEING OF SUCH
  • 00:18:00.100 --> 00:18:03.020
  • SIGNIFICANCE THAT HE COULD NOT SERVE PROPERLY. SO WHAT THEY'RE
  • 00:18:03.030 --> 00:18:07.220
  • DOING NOW IS USING THIS AS A MARK AS THEY TRY TO REDUCE THE
  • 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:10.200
  • SIZE OF THE FORCE. -RIGHT. THERE ARE ONLY 3 WAYS THAT A Q&P
  • 00:18:10.210 --> 00:18:14.080
  • CAN ACTUALLY BE ORIGINATED. IT CAN COME FROM THE GENERAL
  • 00:18:14.090 --> 00:18:19.000
  • OFFICER AND HIS COMMAND, THE COMMANDER OF HRC CAN ALSO
  • 00:18:19.010 --> 00:18:23.050
  • INITIATE IT, AND THEN THE G1 OF THE ARMY. AND SOMEWHERE ANOTHER,
  • 00:18:23.060 --> 00:18:29.160
  • AFTER HE WAS ALLOWED TO REENLIST, SOMEWHERE, SOMEONE
  • 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:32.280
  • DECIDED TO DO THIS. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. -NO. -BECAUSE
  • 00:18:32.290 --> 00:18:37.260
  • NORMALLY YOU WOULD NOT LET A GUY REENLIST. WHENEVER HE WOULD DO
  • 00:18:37.270 --> 00:18:40.160
  • SOMETHING THIS SERIOUS AND HE DID GET A GENERAL LETTER OF
  • 00:18:40.170 --> 00:18:42.280
  • REPRIMAND, WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU ALSO GET A BAR TO REENLISTMENT.
  • 00:18:42.290 --> 00:18:47.030
  • AND THEY DID NOT DO THAT TO HIM. -NO. -AND THEN AT THIS LATE
  • 00:18:47.040 --> 00:18:50.210
  • DATE THEY'RE COMING BACK AROUND TO IT. -YEAH, SO WHAT YOU'VE
  • 00:18:50.220 --> 00:18:53.120
  • GOT NOW, JORDAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, LEGALLY, WE'RE HEARING,
  • 00:18:53.130 --> 00:18:55.280
  • I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT SKIP AND WESS DEALING WITH IT FROM HOW THE
  • 00:18:55.290 --> 00:19:00.090
  • ARMY WORKS SIDE, BUT LEGALLY THIS POST-HOC JUSTIFICATION IS
  • 00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:04.240
  • NOT LEGAL. I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT. YOU CAN'T RETROACTIVELY DO
  • 00:19:04.250 --> 00:19:08.100
  • THINGS LIKE THIS. JORDAN SEKULOW: NO, AND THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:19:08.110 --> 00:19:10.200
  • SO THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AND HOW THIS HAS BEEN PROSECUTED AGAINST
  • 00:19:10.210 --> 00:19:15.070
  • SGT. MARTLAND, IF YOU WILL, IT'S BACKWARDS. IT'S NOT RIGHT. HE
  • 00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:19.130
  • WAS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE ON. THIS DATES BACK, AGAIN, TO 2011. AND
  • 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:24.050
  • SO HE'S BEEN ALLOWED TO CONTINUE SERVING. THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIONS
  • 00:19:24.060 --> 00:19:27.100
  • IN THESE HEARINGS AND THEN NOW, OF COURSE, WE'RE AT THIS VERY
  • 00:19:27.110 --> 00:19:31.100
  • CLOSE TO THE FINAL STAGE AND IT'S WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO BEGIN
  • 00:19:31.110 --> 00:19:34.130
  • SPEAKING OUT. -ALRIGHT, SALLY IS CALLING FROM ILLINOIS ON LINE
  • 00:19:34.140 --> 00:19:37.000
  • THREE. SHE'S THE MOTHER OF A SOLDIER. SALLY, THANK YOU FOR
  • 00:19:37.010 --> 00:19:39.260
  • YOUR FAMILY'S SERVICE. -THANK YOU. IT'S AN HONOR TO TALK TO
  • 00:19:39.270 --> 00:19:43.220
  • YOU, JAY. -SURE. -YOU OPEN UP AVENUES IN BEING ABLE TO RESPOND
  • 00:19:43.230 --> 00:19:48.230
  • TO SO MANY ISSUES AND I GET TO PUT MY NAME ON IT AND I'M SO
  • 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.250
  • EXCITED ABOUT THAT. -GREAT. THANK YOU. -SO THANK YOU. YEAH,
  • 00:19:51.260 --> 00:19:54.080
  • MY SON HAS BEEN IN 17 YEARS AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING I'M
  • 00:19:54.090 --> 00:20:00.080
  • PASSIONATE ABOUT IT'S OUR MILITARY. -SURE. -AND OUR
  • 00:20:00.090 --> 00:20:04.140
  • SOLDIERS. AND THIS IS SO OUTRAGEOUS, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
  • 00:20:04.150 --> 00:20:11.220
  • I WOULD EXPECT THAT MY SON AND ANY OF HIS FRIENDS WOULD HAVE
  • 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:16.130
  • DONE THE EXACT SAME THING. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HONORABLE
  • 00:20:16.140 --> 00:20:20.130
  • ABOUT OUR MILITARY, IS WE ARE GOOD, UPSTANDING PEOPLE. WE ARE
  • 00:20:20.140 --> 00:20:25.080
  • KIND. WE ARE GENEROUS. WE LOOK OUT FOR THE LIGHT OF HEART, YOU
  • 00:20:25.090 --> 00:20:32.040
  • KNOW, CHILDREN. AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT
  • 00:20:32.050 --> 00:20:37.170
  • ONE OF OUR SOLDIERS WOULD DO THIS EXACT SAME THING. -WELL,
  • 00:20:37.180 --> 00:20:42.000
  • SALLY, LOOK, WE HEAR THE EMOTION IN YOUR VOICE AS A MOTHER OF A
  • 00:20:42.010 --> 00:20:44.290
  • SOLDIER THAT'S SERVING OUR COUNTRY CURRENTLY. AND I WANT TO
  • 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.150
  • GO TO COLONEL SMITH WITH THIS BECAUSE WESS SERVED AS A
  • 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:52.120
  • CHAPLAIN AND THIS IS HEART, I MEAN, WESS, WE'RE GETTING A LOT
  • 00:20:52.130 --> 00:20:55.240
  • OF CALLS FROM MILITARY THAT ARE JUST REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:20:55.250 --> 00:21:00.130
  • -RIGHT. WELL, I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF MY CONTACTS IN SPECIAL
  • 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:03.160
  • FORCES, AND TO A PERSON THERE TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF SGT.
  • 00:21:03.170 --> 00:21:09.060
  • MARTLAND AND THEY'RE JUST REALLY UPSET THAT THIS IS GOING ON. I
  • 00:21:09.070 --> 00:21:13.070
  • MEAN, HE WAS A STELLAR INDIVIDUAL. HIS TEAMMATES, HIS
  • 00:21:13.080 --> 00:21:16.080
  • GROUP COMMANDER, EVERYBODY BELIEVES IN HIM. AND YET, THIS
  • 00:21:16.090 --> 00:21:19.080
  • HAS GONE TO ECHELONS, YOU KNOW, ABOVE THAT. AND THE INTERESTING
  • 00:21:19.090 --> 00:21:22.240
  • THING ABOUT IT, JAY, IS THAT IF YOU READ THE ARMY REGULATIONS
  • 00:21:22.250 --> 00:21:26.210
  • AND HUMAN RESOURCES COMMANDS, THEIR POLICIES, THIS IS NOT
  • 00:21:26.220 --> 00:21:31.070
  • SUPPOSED TO BE USED AS A FORCED MANAGEMENT TOOL. -RIGHT. -YOU
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  • KNOW, THE GOAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS TO REDUCE THE
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  • ARMY TO 450.000 SOLDIERS AND YET, BUT BY REGULATION YOU USE
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  • OTHER FORMULAS TO REDUCE THE FORCE BUT IN MY HEART I THINK
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  • THEY ARE USING THE Q&P AS A FORCED MANAGEMENT TOOL TO TRY TO
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  • GET DOWN TO THE 450.000 LEVEL. I MEAN, LAST YEAR ALONE 880 PEOPLE
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  • WERE PUT OUT OF THE ARMY UNDER THIS SAME PROGRAM THAT MARTLAND
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  • IS GOING THROUGH. -JORDAN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE WESS
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  • RAISED THIS, SO HAS SKIP, SO WE'VE GOT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
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  • THAT'S BEEN TALKING WITH OUR FRIEND CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN
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  • HUNTER, AND HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT WESS SAID. WESS HAS CONFIRMED
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  • WITH HIS COLLEAGUES THAT SGT. MARTLAND'S PEERS AND COMMANDERS
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  • CONSIDER HIM AN EXEMPLARY SOLDIER. WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT
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  • INSPECTOR GENERAL INFORMATION WITH CONGRESSMAN HUNTER AND
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  • BUILD OUT THE SUPPORT FROM THERE. -ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S
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  • WHERE WE, THIS IS A STARTING POINT TODAY ON THIS BROADCAST.
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  • WE'VE INFORMED ABOUT IT BEFORE BUT THIS IS A TIME WE'VE GOT TO
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  • TAKE ACTION BECAUSE THEY'RE STARTING TO MOVE IN THE ARMED
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  • FORCES; TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR SGT. MARTLAND. WE, AS A COMBINED
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  • FORCE OF FOLKS, GRASSROOTS ARMY AS SUCH, AGAIN, FROM ACROSS THE
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  • COUNTRY WE'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY VETERANS AND THOSE WHO SERVE AND
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  • FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO ARE SERVING OUR COUNTRY, THIS IS
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  • YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A STAND. -THAT'S GOING TO DO IT
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  • FOR THE BROADCAST TODAY. LET ME ASK YOU TO PRAY FOR SGT.
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  • MARTLAND AND HIS FAMILY. THIS IS SOMEONE THAT HAS SERVED OUR
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  • MILITARY AND SERVED OUR COUNTRY WELL. HE'S PROTECTING A YOUNG
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  • KID AND HE'S BEING REPRIMANDED AND THROWN OUT OF THE ARMY.
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  • WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT BACK AND YOU CAN HELP US DO IT. AND I
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  • APPRECIATE EVERY WEEK WE CAN COME TO YOU ON THIS BROADCAST ON
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  • TBN. AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THIS AIRTIME, YOU
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  • KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? WE'RE ABLE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE SGT.
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  • MARTLAND AND I CAN LAWYERS AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS PEOPLE ALL
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  • OVER THE WORLD WORKING ON THESE CASES. SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
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  • YOU TO SUPPORT TBN. PRAY FOR TBN. PRAY FOR OUR LAWYERS AT THE
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  • ACLJ BUT PRAY FOR SGT. MARTLAND AS WELL. THAT'S GOING TO DO IT
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  • FOR OUR BROADCAST THIS WEEK. WE'LL TALK TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
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