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ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow, "'In God We Trust' Under Attack"

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ACLJ This Week with Jay Sekulow, "'In God We Trust' Under Attack"

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [ANNOUNCER] LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW
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  • LIVE. PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • AND NOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
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  • AND JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW! JAY SEKULOW: HI, EVERYBODY. WELCOME
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  • TO THE BROADCAST; A SPECIAL BROADCAST INDEED. WE'RE GOING TO
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  • BE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF NEW CASES AND A COUPLE OF WINS. AND
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  • HERE IS A COPY OF THE LAWSUIT; I'M SHOWING IT TO OUR FRIENDS
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  • THAT ARE WATCHING IT ON TELEVISION, I'M ALSO SHOWING IT
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  • TO OUR FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK AND PERISCOPE. THIS IS ABOUT A 130
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  • PAGE COMPLAINT FILED BY MICHAEL NEWDOW IN A CASE INVOLVING THE
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  • CHALLENGE TO OUR NATIONAL MOTTO "IN GOD WE TRUST". NOW THIS
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  • LAWSUIT HAS BEEN FILED. THE ACLJ IS GOING TO FILE A RESPONSE.
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  • MICHAEL NEWDOW HAS BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM MANY TIMES. HE'S A
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  • FRIEND OF MINE. WE DISAGREE ON CHURCH-STATE ISSUES, BUT WE
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  • PERSONALLY GET ALONG. WE DISAGREE WITH HIS 130 PAGES,
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  • INCLUDING HIS 130 PAGES THAT SAYS THAT THE WORDS ARE
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  • PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THEY ARE EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE, BIGOTRY,
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  • PERSECUTION, THAT ARE FORCED TO PROSELYTIZE AND THEY EVEN
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  • COMPARED IT IN THE COMPLAINT TO ISLAMIC TERRORISM. SO OBVIOUSLY
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  • A FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT. BUT THIS IS THE LATEST CHALLENGE ON
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  • OUR NATIONAL MOTTO. NOW AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE FIGHTING ON OUR
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  • NATIONAL MOTTO, THE ISSUE OF THE DESIGNATIONS OF CHRISTIANS AND
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  • THE GENOCIDE ISSUE IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS FRONT AND CENTER RIGHT
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  • NOW. THANN, WHAT'S THE LATEST? THANN BENNETT: WELL, THE
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  • DEADLINE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE A DETERMINATION,
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  • ACCORDING TO CONGRESS, JAY, IS MARCH 17TH. OUR LISTENERS KNOW
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  • THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THE HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
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  • PASSED THAT RESOLUTION CALLING IT GENOCIDE. JAY, WE ARE WORKING
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  • BEHIND THE SCENES AGGRESSIVELY TODAY. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL
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  • BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT THAT THERE WILL BE A VOTE ON THE
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  • FLOOR OF THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD ON THAT.
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  • IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR-A VOTE ON
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  • THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. -OKAY, IF THE GENOCIDE
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  • RESOLUTION PASSES THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE AND THEN GOES TO THE
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  • SENATE, WOULD IT PASS IN THE SENATE? -I THINK IT WOULD BUT
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  • EVEN IF IT DIDN'T, JAY, IT WOULD BE A DETERMINATION AND A LOT OF
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  • POLITICAL PRESSURE ON THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE
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  • PRESIDENT HAS TO MAKE THIS DETERMINATION. IT WOULD BE A
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  • PUSH IN THAT DIRECTION. -WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE AHEAD
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  • INCLUDING SOME OF OUR OTHER CASE DEVELOPMENTS AND MORE QUESTIONS
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  • ON OUR NATIONAL MOTTO WHEN WE GET BACK.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • JAY SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT A BRAND NEW
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  • LAWSUIT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TAKING A DAY OFF FROM
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  • POLITICS HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR NATIONAL MOTTO "IN GOD
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  • WE TRUST". SO MICHAEL NEWDOW, WHO'S A SMART GUY; LOOK, HE'S A
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  • MEDICAL DOCTOR AND A LAWYER AND HE'S BEEN ON THIS BROADCAST MANY
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  • TIMES. WE'RE FRIENDS. WE DISAGREE ON THIS VEHEMENTLY AND
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  • HOPEFULLY MAYBE HE'LL CALL IN IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS WE TALK
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  • MORE ABOUT THIS. LOGAN SEKULOW: I THINK HE LISTENS FROM TIME TO
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  • TIME. -HE DOES. -HE'S JUST CALLED IN BEFORE. SO MICHAEL, IF
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  • YOU'RE LISTENING, GIVE US A CALL. -YEAH, SO THIS ONE, HE'S
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  • SAYING THAT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, VIOLATING CHURCH-STATE
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  • SEPARATION; IT VIOLATES THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION
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  • ACT. IT'S THE NATIONAL MOTTO. IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND FOREVER,
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  • SINCE 1954 ANYWAY. AND HE'S ALSO ARGUING THAT IT WOULD CAUSE
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  • EXTREME OFFENSE, BIGOTRY AND PERSECUTION. SO I THINK IT'S
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  • OBSURD. I THINK THE COURT IS GOING TO FIND THE SAME THING.
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  • BUT IT'S A FREE COUNTRY, THEY GET TO BRING LAWSUITS AND THAT'S
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  • WHAT THEY'VE DONE. LET'S GO AHEAD, LOGAN, AND WE'VE GOT
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  • COMMENTS COMING IN AND PROBABLY HAVE PHONE CALLS, A LOT OF PHONE
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  • CALLS AS WELL. LET'S GO TO IT. -ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO PATRICK
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  • CALLING FROM BIRMINGHAM, AL. A PLACE I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
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  • IN. PATRICK, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -HEY, PATRICK. -HEY, JAY, HOW
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  • ARE YOU DOING TODAY? -GOOD, SIR. -WELL, I WANTED TO COMMENT
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  • ON THE "IN GOD WE TRUST". -YES. -FOR ONE, WHAT MADE AMERICA
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  • BECOME TO WHERE IF JUST A FEW MINORITY IS OFFENDED BY
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  • SOMETHING THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO CHANGE? -WELL, I CALL IT IT'S
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  • LIKE THE EGGSHELL, THEY CALL IT THE EGGSHELL PLAINTIFF, THAT'S
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  • OFFENDED BY ANYTHING. BUT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PART
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  • OF THE FREEDOM IS, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR
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  • THINGS YOU DISAGREE WITH. YOU CAN SAY I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT YOU
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  • SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TOS CENSOR IT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. GO
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  • AHEAD. -BECAUSE THE MAJORITY DOES BELIEVE IN THE ONE TRUE
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  • GOD. BUT ALSO, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, WHETHER IT'S THE ONE
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  • TRUE GOD OR NOT, HAS A GOD, WHETHER IT'S MONEY OR THEIR JOB,
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  • OR THEIR CARS. -THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID THAT SECULAR
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  • HUMANISM IS A FORM OF RELIGION. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE SUPREME
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  • COURT HAS SAID. AND THANN, WE'VE HAD THESE CHALLENGES BEFORE AND
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  • WHAT PATRICK'S TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE HAD IT AT THE CAPITOL
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  • CENTER. -YEAH, WE SURE DID. WHEN THE CAPITOL VISITOR'S
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  • CENTER WAS BUILT, JAY, THEY BUILT IT WITHOUT THE NATIONAL
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  • MOTTO INSCRIBED. SO CONGRESS ACTUALLY SAID WE DON'T WANT
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  • THAT. THEY PASSED A LAW THAT DIRECTED THE ARCHITECT OF THE
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  • CAPITOL TO INSCRIBE THE NATIONAL MOTTO, OF ALL THINGS, IN THE
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  • CAPITOL VISITOR'S CENTER. THERE WAS A LAWSUIT, BROUGHT VERY
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  • SIMILAR TO THIS ONE, CHALLENGING THE INSCRIPTION OF THAT MOTTO.
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  • WE INTERVENED ON BEHALF OF, I THINK, IT WAS 70 MEMBERS OF
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  • CONGRESS. AND JAY, IF YOU WALK THROUGH THE FRONT DOORS OF THAT
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  • VISITOR CENTER TODAY, THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IN 2 FOOT TALL
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  • LETTERS INSCRIBED IN STONE, THE NATIONAL MOTTO "IN GOD WE
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  • TRUST". WE CAN WIN THIS ONE TOO. -INTERESTING BECAUSE MEGYN
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  • KELLY HAD MICHAEL ON HER PROGRAM PROBABLY 3 YEARS AGO. LISTEN TO
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  • THIS EXCHANGE, IT'S KIND OF, I THINK, ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT'S
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  • GOING ON. MEGYN KELLY: SO WHY SHOULD 95% OF THE COUNTRY BOW TO
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  • THE 5%, MICHAEL? WHY SHOULDN'T THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO SAY THE
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  • WORD "UNDER GOD" BE REMOVED FROM THE CLASSROOM OR JUST STAND
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  • THERE SILENTLY, AS HAS WORKED IN MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS
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  • THIS COUNTRY? MICHAEL NEWDOW: BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION.
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  • AND THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT THE MAJORITY DOESN'T GET ITS WAY
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  • IN CERTAIN AREAS. -SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. THAT'S KIND OF HIS VIEW
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  • OF IT, AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW. I THINK THIS IS PART OF
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  • WHO WE ARE AND IT'S NOT ENDORSING A RELIGION. IT'S JUST
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  • RECITING A HISTORICAL FACT; THAT OUR FOUNDATIONS ARE BASED ON A
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  • JUDEO-CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDING-IN THIS CASE "IN GOD WE TRUST". IT
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  • LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMMENTS ALSO COMING IN
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  • FACEBOOK AND PERISCOPE AS WELL. -YEAH, THIS CAME IN FROM JOHN.
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  • HE SAID YOU CAN'T TAKE PEOPLE'S BELIEFS AWAY NO MATTER WHAT
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  • ANYONE DOES. WE WILL STAND UP FOR WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE IN AND
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  • WE BELIEVE IN "IN GOD WE TRUST". WE'LL KEEP ON TRUSTING. ANOTHER
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  • ONE FROM BETTY WHO SAID I JUST SIGNED THE PETITION. THIS
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  • COUNTRY IS NOTHING WITHOUT "IN GOD WE TRUST". -I'M GLAD THEY
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  • BROUGHT THAT UP, ACTUALLY. -WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF COMMENTS
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  • LIKE THAT. -YEAH, LET ME SAY THIS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING, WE
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  • ARE FILING A BRIEF IN THIS CASE AT THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL. WE
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  • DON'T DO THAT ALL THE TIME BUT IN THIS CASE WE'RE GOING TO.
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  • WE'VE WATCHED HOW THESE SOMETIMES GO UP THE CHAIN HERE.
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  • AND BECAUSE OF THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF
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  • YOU SIGN ON TO OUR COMMITTEE TODAY, YOU ARE SIGNING A BRIEF
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  • TO THE DISTRICT COURT; PART OF HISTORY. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL
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  • YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN YOU DEFENDED OUR NATIONAL MOTTO
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  • IN FEDERAL COURT. -AND IT REALLY IS ABOUT HISTORY BECAUSE
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  • LAST WEEK IT WAS MENTIONED, ONE OF THE BRIEFS WAS MENTIONED IN
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  • THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES DURING THE. SO YOUR
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  • VOICES WERE ALL HEARD ALMOST BY NAME. -YEAH, IN THE SUPREME
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  • COURT OF THE UNITED STATES LAST WEEK, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE A
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  • QUESTION CAME UP BY JUSTICE GINSBURG AND THE RESPONSE FROM
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  • THE LAWYER FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE TEXAS SOLICITOR
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  • GENERAL WAS TO REFER TO OUR ACTUAL BRIEF THAT WE FILED IN
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  • THE COURTS. AND WHEN YOU FILE THESE BRIEFS IT MAKES A HUGE
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  • DIFFERENCE. -LET'S GO TO ROBERT WHO'S CALLING FROM MARYLAND ON
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  • LINE THREE. ROBERT, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -HI, ROBERT. -YES,
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  • HI. HOW ARE YOU DOING, JAY AND LOGAN? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT
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  • I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IS A VERY
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  • IMPORTANT FREEDOM THAT WE NEED TO DEFEND AND THAT IT'S
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  • DEFINITELY UNDER A MAJOR ASSAULT IN A BIG WAY WORLDWIDE,
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  • ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROSPECT OF THE ISLAMIC STATE, THAT HAS
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  • MURDERED SO MANY CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. PARTICULARLY IN
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  • SYRIA AND IRAQ, BUT ALSO IT'S UNDER ASSUALT IN THE UNITED
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  • STATES OF AMERICA. I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IF RELIGIOUS
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  • FREEDOM ISN'T DEFENDED, ALL OTHER FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE IN
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  • THE CONSTITUTION, PARTICULARLY IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS, ARE GOING
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  • TO BE UNDER ASSAULT BECAUSE THE 1ST AMENDMENT, THE 1ST CLAUSE
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  • SAYS CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF
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  • RELIGION OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. -RIGHT.
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  • -THAT'S THE 1ST CLAUSE IN THE 1ST AMENDMENT OF THE BILL OF
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  • RIGHTS AND ALL THE OTHER BILL OF RIGHTS WOULD ALSO COME UNDER
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  • ASSAULT AS WELL. -YEAH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER
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  • INTERESTING ASPECT OF THAT, ROBERT, AND THAT IS IF YOU LOOK
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  • AT THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THAT MOST OF, ALL
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  • OF THE COUNTRIES IN THE UNITED NATIONS, WHICH MEANS ALL THE
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  • MUSLIM COUNTRIES SIGNED, ALSO HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RIGHTS.
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  • AND THIS ISSUE OF FUNDAMENTAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM THAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKING ABOUT, YOU BRING UP, IS A VERY GOOD POINT. NOT ONLY IT
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  • AFFECTS US DOMESTICALLY, BUT IT AFFECTS US INTERNATIONALLY. AND
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  • THANN, YOU'VE WORKED HARD, AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE
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  • THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PASS THESE DEFAMATION OF RELIGION
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  • STATUTES WHERE THEY TRY TO SQUELCH THE PROCLAMATION OF THE
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  • GOSPEL, FOR INSTANCE, AS IT COMES TO COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE
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  • EAST OR EVEN CARRYING A BIBLE, FOR THAT MATTER. THANN BENNETT:
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  • ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD HERE DOMESTICALLY WAS ACTUALLY
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  • IN ROBERT'S BACK YARD, THE BLADENSBURG CROSS. BUT THEN
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  • INTERNATIONALLY, JAY, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ENGAGE THOSE
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  • ISSUES IS THAT INTERNATIONALLY, WHEN THE CHALLENGES ARE MORE
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  • SIGNIFICANT, THEY'RE NOT JUST A CHALLENGE AGAINST A MEMORIAL, OR
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  • AN INSCRIPTION ON A COIN, THEY ARE CHALLENGES AGAINST PEOPLE'S
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  • ABILITIES TO ACTUALLY LIVE OUT THEIR FAITH. SO IF THE UNITED
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  • STATES' POSITION IS CORRECT, IT GIVES US MUCH GREATER AUTHORITY
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  • WHEN WE GO TO THE UNITED NATIONS TO MAKE THAT CASE. SO IT'S SORT
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  • OF A TRICKLE DOWN AFFECT. YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THEM HERE SO THAT
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  • YOU CAN FIGHT THE MORE SERIOUS ONES OVERSEAS. -YOU KNOW, WE'VE
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  • GOT A CASE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE DEFENDING THE CITY OF OCALA, FL
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  • AGAINST A BOGUS LAWSUIT FILED BY AN ATHEIST ORGANIZATION
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  • CHALLENGING A COMMUNITY WIDE PRAYER VIGIL. WE'VE HAD THOSE
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  • BEFORE. A DECISIVE VICTORY FOR THE WAR MEMORIAL STATUE OF
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  • JESUS. THAT CASE HAS FINALLY BEEN RESOLVED AT THE 9TH
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  • CIRCUIT. WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN HELPING DEFEND THAT. AND I NEED
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  • TO SAY THAT IT WAS NOT TAKEN UP TO THE SUPREME COURT. SO THAT
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  • CASE IS OVER AND THAT HAS ENDED AS A SUCCESS. SO AS ROBERT SAID,
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  • WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEFEND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. THAT'S
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  • WHAT WE DO. AND IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING FOR ME WATCHING THE
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  • COMMENTS JUST FLYING IN HERE ON FACEBOOK. I GET TO SEE THE ONES
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  • ON FACEBOOK, LOGAN. AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY ENCOURAGED ABOUT
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  • THIS. AND THIS IS, AGAIN, KIND OF TAKING A BREAK FROM POLITICS
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  • TODAY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CASES. LOGAN SEKULOW: WE ARE
  • 00:09:24.070 --> 00:09:26.280
  • GETTING A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS
  • 00:09:26.290 --> 00:09:28.140
  • ISN'T JUST ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, IT'S ABOUT BELIEF IN GENERAL.
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  • THIS ONE CAME FROM LINDA WHO SAID I'VE HAD JEHOVAH'S
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  • WITNESSES IN MY CLASS. AS A TEACHER I NEVER MADE THEM
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  • PARTICIPATE IN THINGS THEY COULDN'T. -OF COURSE NOT. -BUT
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  • THEY ALWAYS STOOD UP RESPECTFULLY WITH THE OTHER
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  • STUDENTS, IF NECESSARY, IF THEY CHOSE TO, AND RECITED THE PLEDGE
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  • OF ALLEGIANCE. YOU DON'T EVER FORCE ANYTHING ON THESE KIDS AND
  • 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:45.080
  • THESE PEOPLE. IT'S JUST, IT'S THERE. IT'S AN OPTION. SO
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  • THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF FUNNY COMMENTS COMING IN. BUT A LOT OF
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  • "IN GOD WE TRUST" IS WHO WE ARE. THIS COUNTRY IS NOTHING WITHOUT
  • 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.210
  • "IN GOD WE TRUST". -IT'S ENCOURAGING. PEOPLE DON'T
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  • UNDERSTAND THIS. AND AGAIN, ACLJ.ORG OR 877-989-2255, NOW
  • 00:09:59.230 --> 00:10:04.020
  • I'M HITTING A LOT OF CASES TODAY. SGT. MARTLAND; THAT'S THE
  • 00:10:04.030 --> 00:10:07.130
  • SERGEANT FIRST CLASS THAT'S BEING THROWN OUT OF THE ARMY
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  • BECAUSE HE STOPPED A PERPETRATOR OF THE PRACTICE OF "BOY PLAY"
  • 00:10:10.130 --> 00:10:13.240
  • WHICH IS THE ABUSE OF THESE YOUNG BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN. GREG,
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  • FROM OUR EUROPEAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE WAS AT THE UNITED
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  • NATIONS YESTERDAY INTERVENING WITH NOT JUST LEGAL BRIEFS BUT
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  • ORAL ARGUMENTS AT THE U.N. HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL ON THIS VERY
  • 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.010
  • ISSUE. SO FRONT AND CENTER AGAIN FIGHTING THIS OUT AT THE U.N.
  • 00:10:28.020 --> 00:10:31.240
  • AND FIGHTING IT OUT HERE IN WASHINGTON D.C. THANN, WHAT IS
  • 00:10:31.250 --> 00:10:34.260
  • THE LATEST BECAUSE WE JUST SENT OUT AN EMAIL. THE ARMY HAS ASKED
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  • FOR A 60 DAY EXTENSION. WE'RE TAKING THAT AS A GOOD SIGN. -IT
  • 00:10:37.140 --> 00:10:40.040
  • IS A GOOD SIGN. IT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW WHICH
  • 00:10:40.050 --> 00:10:43.200
  • MEANS OUR ARGUMENT IS STICKING. THE LATEST DEADLINE IS MAY 1ST,
  • 00:10:43.210 --> 00:10:46.260
  • BUT WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR THAT EITHER, JAY. WE ARE SUPPORTING
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  • CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN HUNTER'S LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY
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  • FIX THIS UNDERLYING PROBLEM SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION
  • 00:10:51.280 --> 00:10:54.110
  • LIKE SGT. MARTLAND'S DOWN THE ROAD. -WHEN WE COME BACK FROM
  • 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:57.170
  • THE BREAK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS ON THESE
  • 00:10:57.180 --> 00:10:59.120
  • ISSUES. BACK WITH MORE IN A MOMENT.
  • 00:10:59.130 --> 00:11:01.270
  • [MUSIC]
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  • -MICHAEL NEWDOW WAS THE PERSON
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  • WHO BROUGHT THE CASE, AN ATHEIST FROM CALIFORNIA WHO'S YOUNG
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  • DAUGHTER WENT TO THE ELK GROVE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEN
  • 00:11:11.220 --> 00:11:15.190
  • TEACHERS, WHO ARE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES LEAD THE STUDENTS IN
  • 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:19.010
  • THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THAT IS AN ACTION BY THE GOVERNMENT,
  • 00:11:19.020 --> 00:11:22.050
  • THEY'RE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, AND THAT IS TELLING YOUNG PEOPLE
  • 00:11:22.060 --> 00:11:25.040
  • THAT GOD EXISTS AND THEREFORE IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR THEM
  • 00:11:25.050 --> 00:11:28.240
  • TO DO THAT. THERE, IN A SENSE, IT'S GOVERNMENT ENDORSEMENT OF
  • 00:11:28.250 --> 00:11:31.150
  • RELIGION. -I'M JAY SEKULOW, SEKULOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE
  • 00:11:31.160 --> 00:11:36.290
  • AMERICAN CENTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE. I REPRESENT, IN THIS
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  • CASE, 70 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE AS WELL AS 260.000
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  • CITIZENS FROM ALL 50 STATES. ONE THING I THINK BECAME VERY CLEAR
  • 00:11:44.190 --> 00:11:48.010
  • TODAY BY THE SUPREME COURT, AND I THINK PROBABLY UNANIMOUSLY,
  • 00:11:48.020 --> 00:11:51.170
  • AND THAT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS A REFLECTION OF
  • 00:11:51.180 --> 00:11:55.170
  • THE RELIGIOUS HERITAGE OF AMERICA. -ISN'T A PRAYER
  • 00:11:55.180 --> 00:11:58.040
  • DIFFERENT THAN THE WORDS "UNDER GOD" IN THE PLEDGE? SO WHAT IS
  • 00:11:58.050 --> 00:12:02.240
  • THE NUB OF YOUR OBJECTION? -IT SAYS NO LAW RESPECTING AN
  • 00:12:02.250 --> 00:12:07.250
  • ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT
  • 00:12:07.260 --> 00:12:10.210
  • PRAYER. IT JUST SAYS THAT'S IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE
  • 00:12:10.220 --> 00:12:13.070
  • RELIGION BUSINESS AND I THINK IT'S HARD TO ARGUE THAT THE 2
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  • WORDS "UNDER GOD" ARE NOT RELIGIOUS. -THE PLEDGE OF
  • 00:12:15.250 --> 00:12:18.130
  • ALLEGIANCE REFERENCE TO GOD REFLECTS AN HISTORICAL TRUTH
  • 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:22.160
  • THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS BELIEVED THAT RIGHTS, LIBERTY,
  • 00:12:22.170 --> 00:12:24.270
  • AND FREEDOM DERIVED FROM GOD TO MANKIND RATHER THAN SIMPLY FROM
  • 00:12:24.280 --> 00:12:28.150
  • GOVERNMENT. [MUSIC]
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  • JAY SEKULOW: SO THIS IS NOT THE 1ST TIME THE
  • 00:12:34.250 --> 00:12:36.010
  • NATIONAL MOTTO OR THE PLDDGE OF ALLEGIANCE HAS BEEN UNDER
  • 00:12:36.020 --> 00:12:38.100
  • ATTACK. IN FACT, IF WE GO BACK TO A CASE STARTING IN 2006 WE
  • 00:12:38.110 --> 00:12:41.120
  • HAD SIMILAR CHALLENGES BY MICHAEL NEWDOW TO THE PLEDGE AND
  • 00:12:41.130 --> 00:12:44.240
  • ALSO OUR NATIONAL MOTTO. WE WON BOTH AT THE 9TH CIRCUIT COURT OF
  • 00:12:44.250 --> 00:12:48.260
  • APPEALS. AND BY THE WAY, THE 9TH CIRCUIT IS THE MOST LIBERAL
  • 00:12:48.270 --> 00:12:51.100
  • COURT. SO THE COURTS HAVE NOT BEEN HOSPITABLE TO THESE KINDS
  • 00:12:51.110 --> 00:12:54.210
  • OF ATTACKS. IT WAS INTERESTING, JUSTICE O'CONNOR FAMOUSLY SAID
  • 00:12:54.220 --> 00:12:57.170
  • IN THE NEWDOW CASE INVOLVING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, SHE SAID
  • 00:12:57.180 --> 00:13:00.290
  • IT WOULD BE IRONIC, INDEED, IF A NATION FOUNDED BY RELIGIOUS
  • 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.100
  • REFUGEES WOULD SEVER THE TIES THAT BIND IT TO THAT HERITAGE
  • 00:13:04.110 --> 00:13:08.020
  • AND A COHESIVE UNIT OF THAT EVEN TODAY. SO THERE'S THIS
  • 00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:12.030
  • ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OUR JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGE AND OUR
  • 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:15.230
  • NATION'S FOUNDING. AND THESE GROUPS, JORDAN, I WANT TO GO TO
  • 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.250
  • JORDAN ON THE LEGAL SIDE, AND THANN ON THE POLITICAL SIDE,
  • 00:13:18.260 --> 00:13:21.020
  • THESE GROUPS TRY TO GET RID OF IT. I MEAN, THEY JUST, THEY'RE
  • 00:13:21.030 --> 00:13:24.080
  • OFFENDED THAT THOSE STATEMENTS EXIST. JORDAN SEKULOW: YEAH,
  • 00:13:24.090 --> 00:13:27.210
  • THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO WITH THIS, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE PLEDGE OF
  • 00:13:27.220 --> 00:13:30.240
  • ALLEGIANCE WITH "ONE NATION UNDER GOD". A SIMILAR KIND OF
  • 00:13:30.250 --> 00:13:34.150
  • CHALLENGE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE "IN GOD WE TRUST" ON OUR
  • 00:13:34.160 --> 00:13:37.050
  • CURRENCY. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY LOSE, THEY CONTINUE TO FIGHT
  • 00:13:37.060 --> 00:13:41.270
  • THESE OUT IN COURT. AND THEY CALL THIS AN AFFRONT TO WHO THEY
  • 00:13:41.280 --> 00:13:45.200
  • ARE. IT'S THAT CONTINUED ATTACK ON OUR JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGE.
  • 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:48.290
  • I THINK THEY HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THEY KEEP THIS GOING, THEY
  • 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.290
  • KEEP IT GOING, IT MAY NOT BE TODAY, BUT IF PEOPLE KEEP MOVING
  • 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.170
  • LEFT, AND AS WE HEARD SOME OF OUR CALLERS SAY, WELL, HEY, YOU
  • 00:13:55.180 --> 00:13:58.220
  • KNOW WHAT, MAYBE OUR COUNTRY, OUR CHRISTIAN VALUES HAVE GONE
  • 00:13:58.230 --> 00:14:00.210
  • OUT THE WINDOW ANYWAY, THAT KIND OF THINKING GETS MORE PERVASIVE,
  • 00:14:00.220 --> 00:14:04.280
  • THEN THEY ULTIMATELY COULD CARRY THE DAY. NOT JUST IN A DISTRICT
  • 00:14:04.290 --> 00:14:09.080
  • COURT, POSSIBLY, OR MAYBE EVEN A COURT OF APPEALS, BUT ALL THE
  • 00:14:09.090 --> 00:14:12.100
  • WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT. SO FAR THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO. -AND
  • 00:14:12.110 --> 00:14:14.230
  • THANN, IN CONGRESS THERE HAS BEEN THESE ATTEMPTS ON WHEN
  • 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.070
  • CONGRESS HAS RECOGNIZED IT, BUT THOSE HAVE FALLEN FLAT AS WELL.
  • 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.100
  • -THEY'VE BEEN BEATEN IN COURT, BUT I THINK THE TEMPTATION
  • 00:14:19.110 --> 00:14:22.290
  • POLITICALLY EVEN, JAY, IS WHAT JORDAN JUST TALKED ABOUT. THAT
  • 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.200
  • THERE'S THE TEMPTATION THAT THEY'RE SO RIDICULOUS, THEY'RE
  • 00:14:25.210 --> 00:14:27.250
  • SO OUTLANDISH, THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO IGNORE THEM; THEY'LL GO
  • 00:14:27.260 --> 00:14:30.010
  • AWAY. -AND YOU CAN'T. -AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONES
  • 00:14:30.020 --> 00:14:31.240
  • TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT OCCASIONALLY THEY DO WIN. I
  • 00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:35.010
  • MEAN, THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER. -YEAH, THEY'LL FIND A
  • 00:14:35.020 --> 00:14:36.220
  • DISTRICT COURT JUDGE THAT WILL GO WITH THEM. YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:14:36.230 --> 00:14:38.230
  • -THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE. SO WHEN THEY WIN, YOU TAKE IT UP
  • 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.210
  • A LEVEL AND YOU ULTIMATELY BEAT THEM. BUT YOU HAVE TO SET THE
  • 00:14:41.220 --> 00:14:44.070
  • PRECEDENT SO THAT THEY CAN'T WEAR US DOWN JUST LIKE JORDAN IS
  • 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:47.090
  • TALKING ABOUT. -AND THAT'S WHY, EVEN IN THIS CASE, WE'RE GOING
  • 00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:49.140
  • TO FILE AT THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL. NORMALLY WE WAIT UNTIL
  • 00:14:49.150 --> 00:14:50.270
  • THE COURT OF APPEALS. HERE WE'RE GOING TO FILE AT THE DISTRICT
  • 00:14:50.280 --> 00:14:52.170
  • COURT LEVEL. DO YOU THINK WE'LL GET ANY CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT
  • 00:14:52.180 --> 00:14:54.220
  • FOR THAT OR IS IT USUALLY COURT OF APPEALS, THANN? -THEY'RE
  • 00:14:54.230 --> 00:14:57.120
  • ALREADY ENGAGED ON IT. THE QUESTION WILL BE WHETHER OR NOT
  • 00:14:57.130 --> 00:14:59.260
  • THEY THINK THIS IS THE PROPER PLACE TO ENGAGE. WE'RE TALKING
  • 00:14:59.270 --> 00:15:02.030
  • TO THEM ABOUT THIS. -SO WE'RE GOING TO FILE REGARDLESS. LET'S
  • 00:15:02.040 --> 00:15:04.020
  • GO RIGHT TO THE PHONES. -ALRIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO
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  • TO KATHY IN ARIZONA. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -KEY, KATHY. -FIRST
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  • OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR TAKING A STAND AGAINST THE
  • 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:12.050
  • NEWDOW GUY WHO'S TRYING TO GET RID OF "IN GOD WE TRUST". -I
  • 00:15:12.060 --> 00:15:16.050
  • TAKE A STAND AGAINST HIM IN COURT, BUT AS I SAID, I WANT YOU
  • 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:18.120
  • TO KNOW, WE'RE FRIENDS. I MEAN, HE AND I DON'T AGREE ON THIS,
  • 00:15:18.130 --> 00:15:21.010
  • BUT PERSONALLY, WE'RE FRIENDS. BUT WE DO CHALLENGE HIM IN
  • 00:15:21.020 --> 00:15:23.050
  • COURT. -RIGHT. WELL, AND THE OTHER THING IS, THERE ARE 2
  • 00:15:23.060 --> 00:15:27.020
  • THINGS, ONE THING IS IF HE WERE TO WIN THIS, THAT SETS A VERY
  • 00:15:27.030 --> 00:15:30.010
  • DANGEROUS LEGAL PRECEDENT. IT GIVES ANTI-GOD PEOPLE ALL THE
  • 00:15:30.020 --> 00:15:35.100
  • AMMUNITION THEY NEED TO. -THIS IS EXACTLY WHY, KATHY, WE DON'T
  • 00:15:35.110 --> 00:15:38.170
  • EVEN AT THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL, JORDAN, WE DON'T TAKE
  • 00:15:38.180 --> 00:15:41.070
  • THESE FOR GRANTED. WE FILE AT THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL BECAUSE
  • 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.180
  • YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. JORDAN SEKULOW: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. YOU
  • 00:15:44.190 --> 00:15:47.180
  • DON'T KNOW IF YOU FIND A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE THAT MAY BE
  • 00:15:47.190 --> 00:15:51.000
  • TO THE FAR LEFT, AND THEN A COURT OF APPEALS. ULTIMATELY YOU
  • 00:15:51.010 --> 00:15:55.240
  • WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE READY TO STEP IN IMMEDIATELY AND
  • 00:15:55.250 --> 00:15:59.210
  • BE ABLE TO STOP THIS EARLY ON. THE EARLIER THE BETTER BECAUSE
  • 00:15:59.220 --> 00:16:02.260
  • IT'S A BIGGER LOSS. THE FURTHER THIS GOES UP IN COURT, THE MORE
  • 00:16:02.270 --> 00:16:08.280
  • JUSTIFIED, THE MORE REASONABLE THEIR KIND OF LAWSUIT AND
  • 00:16:08.290 --> 00:16:12.050
  • CHALLENGE BECOMES. AND THAT'S WHY THE SOONER YOU BEAT THEM THE
  • 00:16:12.060 --> 00:16:16.000
  • BETTER. LOGAN SEKULOW: DEANNA'S CALLING FROM BOWLING GREEN, KY,
  • 00:16:16.010 --> 00:16:18.040
  • YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -HI, DEANNA. YOU'VE BEEN HOLDING A LONG TIME.
  • 00:16:18.050 --> 00:16:20.080
  • I'M GOING TO SEND YOU A BOOK. GO AHEAD. -GOD BLESS YOU FOR BEING
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  • THERE. I APPRECIATE YOUR SHOW. -THANKS. -I'M A RETIRED CIVICS
  • 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.230
  • TEACHER. -GREAT. -AND I HAVE 2 COMMENTS. 1ST TO THE GENTLEMAN
  • 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:31.070
  • WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT CONSTITUTION AND SEPARATION OF
  • 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:35.050
  • CHURCH AND STATE. -RIGHT. -I'VE GOT $100 BILL IN MY HAND
  • 00:16:35.060 --> 00:16:37.290
  • TO GIVE HIM OR ANY OF YOUR LISTENERS WHO WILL SHOW ME THE
  • 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:42.280
  • WORDS SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION.
  • 00:16:42.290 --> 00:16:48.000
  • I'VE BEEN HOLDING ON TO THIS $100 FOR A LONG TIME. -OF
  • 00:16:48.010 --> 00:16:51.060
  • COURSE, IT DOESN'T EXIST. IT DOESN'T EXIST AND IN THE FORMER
  • 00:16:51.070 --> 00:16:53.190
  • SOVIET UNION CONSTITUTION THEY REFERENCE THE SEPARATION OF
  • 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.140
  • CHURCH AND STATE WHEN IT WAS THE SOVIET UNION BUT NOT IN THE U.S.
  • 00:16:55.150 --> 00:16:58.160
  • CONSTITUTION. SO DEANNA, I THINK YOU'RE SAFE WITH KEEPING YOUR
  • 00:16:58.170 --> 00:17:01.160
  • MONEY THERE IN BOWLING GREEN, KY. THANKS FOR CALLING IN. WE
  • 00:17:01.170 --> 00:17:04.040
  • REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE
  • 00:17:04.050 --> 00:17:06.050
  • HOLDING. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT MORE COMMENTS COMING IN, TOO,
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:08.010
  • LOGAN. WHATEVER YOU NEED TO TAKE. -LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET
  • 00:17:08.020 --> 00:17:09.230
  • AT LEAST ONE MORE CALL IN. LET'S GO TO ANN, WHO'S CALLING FROM
  • 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.260
  • HOUSTON. YOU'RE ON THE AIR, ANN. LINE THREE. -HI, ANN. -HI. HOW
  • 00:17:11.270 --> 00:17:15.070
  • ARE YOU, JAY? -GOOD. THANKS. -THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
  • 00:17:15.080 --> 00:17:17.170
  • -SURE. -I WAS MAKING A COMMENT RATHER LIKE THE CALLER JUST
  • 00:17:17.180 --> 00:17:22.240
  • BEFORE ME WHO TALKED ABOUT THIS IS NOT IN OUR CONSTITUTION OR
  • 00:17:22.250 --> 00:17:28.280
  • OUR BILL OF RIGHTS AND PEOPLE BELIEVE IT. AND IT'S BECAUSE NO
  • 00:17:28.290 --> 00:17:35.000
  • ONE STANDS UP AND SAYS I'M SORRY BUT THIS ISN'T IN THE
  • 00:17:35.010 --> 00:17:40.090
  • CONSTITUTION. -WELL, BUT ANN, THE GOOD NEWS IS PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:17:40.100 --> 00:17:42.190
  • STANDING UP AND SPEAKING OUT AND I CAN GIVE YOU CASE AFTER CASE.
  • 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.260
  • I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL AND YOU'RE RIGHT, PEOPLE NEED TO BE
  • 00:17:44.270 --> 00:17:48.010
  • ENCOURAGED TO SPEAK OUT. BUT THE REALITY IS PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING
  • 00:17:48.020 --> 00:17:50.150
  • OUT. JORDAN, I THINK ABOUT THE CROSS AT GROUND ZERO AND THAT
  • 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:54.240
  • LAWSUIT THAT WENT ON. WE INTERVENED IN THAT ONE, TOO. BUT
  • 00:17:54.250 --> 00:17:57.110
  • THERE WAS A GROUND SWELL, I MEAN, 100S OF 1.000S OF PEOPLE
  • 00:17:57.120 --> 00:17:59.160
  • JOINED WITH US. AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO SIGN ON
  • 00:17:59.170 --> 00:18:02.060
  • TO THESE BRIEFS BECAUSE WHEN YOU START FILING THESE BRIEFS AND
  • 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:04.190
  • YOU'RE REPRESENTING 200.000 PEOPLE, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.100
  • GO AHEAD JORDAN. -THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT
  • 00:18:07.110 --> 00:18:10.210
  • THAT WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT THESE GROUPS, TO
  • 00:18:10.220 --> 00:18:15.030
  • HEAR THE MICHAEL NEWDOWS AND THE WAY THAT THEY KIND OF DO THEIR
  • 00:18:15.040 --> 00:18:19.160
  • AUTOMATIC REPETITIONS AND THEIR RHYTHMS AND THEIR SONGS FROM THE
  • 00:18:19.170 --> 00:18:23.130
  • FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION. AND KIND OF SHRUG
  • 00:18:23.140 --> 00:18:26.050
  • YOUR SHOULDERS AND SAY, OKAY, THESE PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE
  • 00:18:26.060 --> 00:18:27.280
  • RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, THEY DON'T LIKE CHRISTIANITY. THEY'VE GOT
  • 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:30.140
  • SOME PERSONAL ISSUE WITH IT. BUT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, WE NEED TO
  • 00:18:30.150 --> 00:18:34.040
  • KEEP WINNING THESE IN COURT CLEARLY. -YES. -WE WANT TO
  • 00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:36.140
  • MAKE SURE IT'S NOT, AND REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THESE HAVE GOTTEN
  • 00:18:36.150 --> 00:18:40.130
  • TO THE POINT OF 5-4 ON STANDING. WE NEED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT
  • 00:18:40.140 --> 00:18:44.070
  • IT'S A CLEAR MESSAGE TO OUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS THAT WE ARE
  • 00:18:44.080 --> 00:18:48.010
  • WILLING TO FIGHT ON THIS, THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT ON
  • 00:18:48.020 --> 00:18:49.270
  • THIS. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE ATHEISTS ARE KEYING UP
  • 00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:51.260
  • ON, IS THAT ULTIMATELY NOT ENOUGH OF YOU WILL CARE. AND
  • 00:18:51.270 --> 00:18:55.110
  • THAT IF NOT ENOUGH OF YOU CARE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KEEP
  • 00:18:55.120 --> 00:18:57.260
  • SAYING, WELL, WE CAN KIND OF FORGET THAT HERITAGE OF OUR
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  • COUNTRY. -LET ME PLAY FOR YOU THE EXCHANGE THAT ACTUALLY TOOK
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  • PLACE AND IF YOU THINK THESE BRIEFS MAKE A DIFFERENCE, LET ME
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  • PLAY FOR YOU THE EXCHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE BETWEEN JUSTICE
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  • GINSBURG AND THE TEXAS SOLICITOR GENERAL ON THE ABORTION CASE
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  • WHERE OUR BRIEF ACTUALLY IS REFERENCED, I MEAN, REFERENCED
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  • AT A SUPREME COURT ORAL ARGUMENT. -SO WHAT WAS THE
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  • PROBLEM THAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS RESPONDING TO, THAT IT NEEDED TO
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  • IMPROVE THE FACILITIES FOR A WOMAN'S HEALTH? -IN THE
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  • PETITIONERS FIRST LAWSUIT, PLANNED PARENTHOOD ADMITTED THAT
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  • OVER 210 WOMAN ANNUALLY ARE HOSPITALIZED BECAUSE OF ABORTION
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  • COMPLICATIONS. HERE, J26 -AS COMPARED TO CHILDBIRTH? MANY,
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  • MANY MUCH RISKIER PROCEDURE, IS IT NOT? -WELL, THE AMERICAN
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  • CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE AND FORMER ABORTION PROVIDERS AMICUS
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  • BRIEFS DISPUTE THAT BUT REGARDLESS, THERE IS EVIDENCE,
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  • -IS THERE REALLY ANY DISPUTE CHILD BIRTH IS A MUCH RISKIER
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  • PROCEDURE THAN AN EARLY STAGE ABORTION? -JUSTICE GINSBURG,
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  • THOSE AMICUS BRIEFS POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT RECORD
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  • LINKAGE STATISTIC INSTEAD OF COMPLICATION REPORTING, THERE
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  • MAY BE A DIFFERENCE. AND THE REASON WHY REPORTING IS
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  • IMPORTANT, IS THERE IS EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD HERE THAT ABORTION
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  • COMPLICATIONS ARE UNDERREPORTED. THAT'S IN JA844 AND 870-72.
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  • -THERE YOU HAVE IT. SO THE BRIEFS MAKE, I MEAN, THERE'S A
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  • PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY A BRIEF TO THE SUPREME COURT, AN AMICUS
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  • BRIEF TO THE SUPREME COURT CAN ANSWER A QUESTION. AND HE
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  • REFERENCED AND THEN CAME BACK TO THE POINT OF IT IN HIS QUESTION.
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  • THAT WAS A GOOD JOB BY THE TEXAS SOLICITOR GENERAL ON A CASE THAT
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  • IS PROBABLY 4-4 TIE, WHICH MEANS WE WILL WIN BUT IT WON'T HAVE
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  • THE PRECEDENTIAL VALUE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN. -THIS
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  • IS FROM FREDA, WHO JUST SAID GOD IS GOD NO MATTER WHO
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  • ACKNOWLEDGES IT. AND THEN WE HAVE A QUOTE FROM AARON ALLEN
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  • WHO JUST PUT A QUOTE IN FROM RONALD REAGAN WHO SAID IF
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  • AMERICA EVER CEASES TO BE A NATION UNDER GOD, IT WILL BE A
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  • NATION GONE UNDER. I CAN'T VERIFY THAT QUOTE BUT HE PUT IT
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  • UP THERE. SO THERE YOU GO. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR
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  • COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND TO DEBATE THE NAME OF GOD ITSELF IS
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  • BLASPHEMY, VERY DISRESPECTFUL. LANDON, LINE SIX FROM
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  • SPRINGFIELD, MO. -HEY, LANDON. -HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? -YES,
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  • SIR. -DO YOU BELIEVE EVEN FOR TRUE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES,
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  • FOR EXAMPLE, IF TED CRUZ, I WOULDN'T SAY DONALD TRUMP AT
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  • ALL, -OKAY. -IS ELECTED PRESIDENT, DO YOU THINK OUR
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  • COUNTRY COULD FULLY RESTORE RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES AND RETURN
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  • IT TO, ATLEAST AN EXTENT, A CHRISTIAN NATION, OR DO YOU
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  • BELIEVE THE COUNTRY HAS PUSHED TOO FAR AWAY FROM HAVING
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  • ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOD IN POLITICS? -NO, I DON'T THINK WE
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  • SHOULD SAY ALL IS LOST AND WE'RE ALL DOOMED HERE. I DON'T BUY
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  • THAT. I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THESE
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  • CHALLENGES AS OUR NATIONAL MOTTO AND THEY'RE ANNOYING, BUT WE CAN
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  • HANDLE THEM. BUT THEY'RE ANNOYING. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY
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  • THEY'RE NOT ANNOYING, BUT WE HANDLE THEM. LOOK, I THINK A
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  • PRESIDENT CAN SET AN AGENDA, I THINK JORDAN AND THANN WOULD
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  • AGREE WITH ME ON THIS, A PRESIDENT CAN SET AN AGENDA THAT
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  • INCLUDES PROTECTION OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AS PART OF WHAT THEY DO.
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  • AND THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT CANDIDATES, THAT'S ONE OF THE
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  • THINGS, JORDAN AND THANN, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. -YEAH,
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  • EXACTLY. I MEAN, THAT ULTIMATELY THAT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS LOOK
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  • AT WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS? WHAT ARE, HOW ARE THESE CANDIDATES
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  • GOING TO ACTUALLY HANDLE THE PROBLEMS WE FACE? I HOPE THAT'S
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  • WHAT I SEE TONIGHT AT THE GOP DEBATE IS NOW THAT THE STAGE IS
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  • SMALLER, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE
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  • THE SAME AS THEY WERE MAYBE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, LET'S
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  • GET TO THE SPECIFICS AND LET'S GET TO SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO
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  • BE ADDRESSED. WE'VE ALL SEEN PLENTY OF DEBATES. LET'S BE
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  • HONEST ABOUT THAT. BUT LET'S GET INTO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO
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  • WHAT YOU'D ACTUALLY DO ON THESE ISSUES. -WELL, THAT'S GOING TO
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  • DO IT FOR THE BROADCAST TODAY. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE
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  • ENTIRE TBN FAMILY FOR ALLOWING US TO COME EACH AND EVERY WEEK
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  • TO THIS BROADCAST AND WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE AIR TIME. YOUR
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  • SUPPORT OF TBN KEEPS US ON THE AIR AND ALLOWS ME TO PUT LAWYERS
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  • IN THE FIELD HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD. SO
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  • PRAY FOR AND SUPPORT TBN. YOU CAN DO THAT EASILY WITH YOUR
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  • FAITHFUL LOVE GIFTS AND SUPPORT, BUT ALSO PRAY FOR OUR LAWYERS
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  • HERE AT THE ACLJ. WE'LL TALK TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
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