Dealing with the Poor Part 1 | TBN

Dealing with the Poor Part 1

Watch Dealing with the Poor Part 1
January 30, 2020
29:29

Darren Wilson travels to New York city in hopes to change a life with help from the band Big Daddy Weave.

Closed captions

Dealing with the Poor Part 1

Show timecode
Hide timecode
  • - Darren Wilson: For 10 years,
  • 00:00:01.364 --> 00:00:02.198
  • I've traveled the world in an
  • 00:00:02.198 --> 00:00:03.366
  • attempt to film God touching
  • 00:00:03.366 --> 00:00:04.500
  • people's lives.
  • 00:00:04.500 --> 00:00:05.401
  • And I've captured some of the
  • 00:00:05.401 --> 00:00:06.536
  • most incredible moments of faith
  • 00:00:06.536 --> 00:00:07.837
  • and miracles ever caught on
  • 00:00:07.837 --> 00:00:09.338
  • film.
  • 00:00:09.338 --> 00:00:10.306
  • But I've discovered that faith
  • 00:00:10.306 --> 00:00:12.008
  • is as much about questions as it
  • 00:00:12.008 --> 00:00:14.143
  • is answers, as much mystery as
  • 00:00:14.143 --> 00:00:15.578
  • it is certainty.
  • 00:00:15.578 --> 00:00:16.712
  • So I wanna take you on a new
  • 00:00:16.712 --> 00:00:18.147
  • adventure.
  • 00:00:18.147 --> 00:00:19.282
  • Together, we'll wrestle with big
  • 00:00:19.282 --> 00:00:20.817
  • questions about God but we'll
  • 00:00:20.817 --> 00:00:22.118
  • also see faith in its purest
  • 00:00:22.118 --> 00:00:23.653
  • form.
  • 00:00:23.653 --> 00:00:25.021
  • It's time to face our questions
  • 00:00:25.021 --> 00:00:25.988
  • head on.
  • 00:00:25.988 --> 00:00:27.023
  • It's time to see proof that God
  • 00:00:27.023 --> 00:00:28.224
  • exists.
  • 00:00:28.224 --> 00:00:29.625
  • It's time for "Adventures with
  • 00:00:29.625 --> 00:00:31.594
  • - Darren: When I lived in
  • 00:00:34.664 --> 00:00:36.099
  • Chicago, I used to go downtown
  • 00:00:36.099 --> 00:00:37.600
  • with my family and inevitably we
  • 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.268
  • would encounter homeless people
  • 00:00:39.268 --> 00:00:40.636
  • begging on the street corners or
  • 00:00:40.636 --> 00:00:41.838
  • standing at stoplights with
  • 00:00:41.838 --> 00:00:43.072
  • signs informing me of their
  • 00:00:43.072 --> 00:00:44.674
  • hard-luck life.
  • 00:00:44.674 --> 00:00:45.942
  • And I would always feel a stab
  • 00:00:45.942 --> 00:00:48.010
  • of guilt and pity.
  • 00:00:48.010 --> 00:00:49.212
  • Sometimes, I'd completely ignore
  • 00:00:49.212 --> 00:00:50.646
  • them while other times I'd lie
  • 00:00:50.646 --> 00:00:53.483
  • and say I didn't have any money.
  • 00:00:53.483 --> 00:00:54.784
  • And immediately afterwards, I'd
  • 00:00:54.784 --> 00:00:56.085
  • feel horrible because didn't
  • 00:00:56.085 --> 00:00:57.854
  • Jesus say that what you do to
  • 00:00:57.854 --> 00:00:59.255
  • the least of these you do to
  • 00:00:59.255 --> 00:01:00.490
  • him?
  • 00:01:00.490 --> 00:01:03.426
  • So, did I just lie to Jesus?
  • 00:01:03.426 --> 00:01:04.293
  • It was enough to make this
  • 00:01:04.293 --> 00:01:05.428
  • church kid's spiritual head
  • 00:01:05.428 --> 00:01:07.163
  • spin.
  • 00:01:07.163 --> 00:01:08.431
  • So when I felt the Lord telling
  • 00:01:08.431 --> 00:01:09.665
  • me to film something with a
  • 00:01:09.665 --> 00:01:11.334
  • homeless person, I knew this was
  • 00:01:11.334 --> 00:01:12.468
  • going to be as much for me as
  • 00:01:12.468 --> 00:01:14.670
  • anyone else.
  • 00:01:14.670 --> 00:01:16.105
  • So I took two friends of mine,
  • 00:01:16.105 --> 00:01:18.107
  • Will Hacker and Jamie Galloway,
  • 00:01:18.107 --> 00:01:19.208
  • up to New York City with one
  • 00:01:19.208 --> 00:01:21.444
  • directive: find a homeless
  • 00:01:21.444 --> 00:01:23.579
  • person God was spotlighting and
  • 00:01:23.579 --> 00:01:25.515
  • in one night attempt to turn
  • 00:01:25.515 --> 00:01:28.684
  • their entire life around.
  • 00:01:28.684 --> 00:01:29.719
  • Some friends of ours, the band
  • 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.154
  • Big Daddy Weave, had just
  • 00:01:31.154 --> 00:01:32.588
  • happened to be in New York at
  • 00:01:32.588 --> 00:01:34.023
  • the same time, which gave me the
  • 00:01:34.023 --> 00:01:35.558
  • idea to include a personal
  • 00:01:35.558 --> 00:01:37.727
  • concert for this person.
  • 00:01:37.727 --> 00:01:38.761
  • Little did I know the wild
  • 00:01:38.761 --> 00:01:40.530
  • twists and turns this story
  • 00:01:40.530 --> 00:01:42.131
  • would take when I stood in front
  • 00:01:42.131 --> 00:01:43.466
  • of the band to explain what we
  • 00:01:43.466 --> 00:01:45.668
  • - Darren: And what I wanted to
  • 00:01:47.336 --> 00:01:49.572
  • do here was kind of play along
  • 00:01:49.572 --> 00:01:50.940
  • the whole idea of what Jesus was
  • 00:01:50.940 --> 00:01:53.075
  • talking about where it's, like,
  • 00:01:53.075 --> 00:01:55.678
  • you know, when you do it to the
  • 00:01:55.678 --> 00:01:57.280
  • least of these, like, you've
  • 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:58.247
  • done it to me.
  • 00:01:58.247 --> 00:01:59.148
  • You know what I mean, when you
  • 00:01:59.148 --> 00:02:00.449
  • clothe the least, you whatever.
  • 00:02:00.449 --> 00:02:01.484
  • And so what I wanted to do is we
  • 00:02:01.484 --> 00:02:03.553
  • wanted to, basically, we find a
  • 00:02:03.553 --> 00:02:07.490
  • homeless person here in New York
  • 00:02:07.490 --> 00:02:09.458
  • and just, like, bless the living
  • 00:02:09.458 --> 00:02:10.993
  • daylights out of them.
  • 00:02:10.993 --> 00:02:12.528
  • And, you know, but for me, I
  • 00:02:12.528 --> 00:02:16.232
  • don't want it to just be, like,
  • 00:02:16.232 --> 00:02:18.201
  • let's, like, exploit a homeless
  • 00:02:18.201 --> 00:02:19.268
  • guy.
  • 00:02:19.268 --> 00:02:20.136
  • You know what I mean?
  • 00:02:20.136 --> 00:02:21.204
  • And make ourselves feel good?
  • 00:02:21.204 --> 00:02:23.039
  • And so what I wanna do is I
  • 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.240
  • wanna, like, obviously bless him
  • 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:25.908
  • because Jesus told us where we
  • 00:02:25.908 --> 00:02:27.543
  • can find him, you know what I
  • 00:02:27.543 --> 00:02:28.477
  • mean?
  • 00:02:28.477 --> 00:02:29.378
  • We can find him in the least.
  • 00:02:29.378 --> 00:02:30.179
  • But then, okay, what do we do
  • 00:02:30.179 --> 00:02:31.113
  • once we've found Jesus and given
  • 00:02:31.113 --> 00:02:32.949
  • him Jesus?
  • 00:02:32.949 --> 00:02:33.983
  • There has to be--the gospel
  • 00:02:33.983 --> 00:02:35.985
  • isn't just chariots, like,
  • 00:02:35.985 --> 00:02:36.953
  • there's an empowerment that goes
  • 00:02:36.953 --> 00:02:38.287
  • along when you receive the
  • 00:02:38.287 --> 00:02:39.822
  • gospel, when you receive Jesus.
  • 00:02:39.822 --> 00:02:40.790
  • You know what I'm saying?
  • 00:02:40.790 --> 00:02:41.757
  • So we're actually going to,
  • 00:02:41.757 --> 00:02:43.059
  • like, so we're gonna--I've
  • 00:02:43.059 --> 00:02:44.126
  • already actually found the guy.
  • 00:02:44.126 --> 00:02:45.561
  • I found him last night.
  • 00:02:45.561 --> 00:02:46.829
  • So he's coming by here, like, at
  • 00:02:46.829 --> 00:02:47.763
  • 5 o'clock and we're just gonna
  • 00:02:47.763 --> 00:02:48.731
  • hang out with him for the
  • 00:02:48.731 --> 00:02:49.932
  • evening.
  • 00:02:49.932 --> 00:02:52.134
  • - Darren: Okay, so how this all
  • 00:02:52.134 --> 00:02:54.837
  • happened is I was--my film crew
  • 00:02:54.837 --> 00:02:56.272
  • was going around the city, kind
  • 00:02:56.272 --> 00:02:57.740
  • of getting shots of New York and
  • 00:02:57.740 --> 00:02:59.175
  • Brooklyn, and so I just kind of
  • 00:02:59.175 --> 00:03:01.744
  • sat, walked around all day, and
  • 00:03:01.744 --> 00:03:03.112
  • was trying to just ask the Lord,
  • 00:03:03.112 --> 00:03:04.847
  • like, do you wanna highlight
  • 00:03:04.847 --> 00:03:06.082
  • anybody for us to bless and for
  • 00:03:06.082 --> 00:03:07.216
  • us to, like, who do you have for
  • 00:03:07.216 --> 00:03:08.451
  • us?
  • 00:03:08.451 --> 00:03:10.019
  • And so I saw this kid walking
  • 00:03:10.019 --> 00:03:10.820
  • around and I just had those
  • 00:03:10.820 --> 00:03:11.821
  • butterflies that I get
  • 00:03:11.821 --> 00:03:13.389
  • sometimes.
  • 00:03:13.389 --> 00:03:14.490
  • And so I just kind of followed
  • 00:03:14.490 --> 00:03:17.326
  • him like a creeper and I saw him
  • 00:03:17.326 --> 00:03:18.894
  • kind of go into this Burger
  • 00:03:18.894 --> 00:03:19.996
  • King.
  • 00:03:19.996 --> 00:03:21.564
  • And so I went in there and part
  • 00:03:21.564 --> 00:03:23.733
  • of it was, like, this is--it's
  • 00:03:23.733 --> 00:03:25.167
  • not like really who I am.
  • 00:03:25.167 --> 00:03:26.135
  • I don't really, like, approach
  • 00:03:26.135 --> 00:03:27.770
  • perfect strangers all the time.
  • 00:03:27.770 --> 00:03:28.537
  • So it's not like it's super-easy
  • 00:03:28.537 --> 00:03:29.405
  • for me.
  • 00:03:29.405 --> 00:03:30.573
  • But I just--the Lord just
  • 00:03:30.573 --> 00:03:31.607
  • kept--these butterflies kept
  • 00:03:31.607 --> 00:03:32.341
  • going.
  • 00:03:32.341 --> 00:03:33.342
  • I knew this is who God wanted me
  • 00:03:33.342 --> 00:03:34.977
  • to go after.
  • 00:03:34.977 --> 00:03:35.845
  • And so he had already ordered
  • 00:03:35.845 --> 00:03:37.380
  • some food and so I just went and
  • 00:03:37.380 --> 00:03:38.247
  • I sat down with him and started
  • 00:03:38.247 --> 00:03:39.515
  • a conversation and told him who
  • 00:03:39.515 --> 00:03:40.716
  • I was and what we were doing.
  • 00:03:40.716 --> 00:03:43.619
  • And said, "Hey, you know, my
  • 00:03:43.619 --> 00:03:44.587
  • crew's out right now but we'd
  • 00:03:44.587 --> 00:03:45.955
  • love to just, like, hang out
  • 00:03:45.955 --> 00:03:46.989
  • with you tonight, take you out
  • 00:03:46.989 --> 00:03:48.958
  • to dinner, and, you know, maybe
  • 00:03:48.958 --> 00:03:49.725
  • get you some clothes or
  • 00:03:49.725 --> 00:03:50.793
  • whatever.
  • 00:03:50.793 --> 00:03:51.794
  • Would you be open to that?"
  • 00:03:51.794 --> 00:03:52.595
  • And he said, "Yeah."
  • 00:03:52.595 --> 00:03:53.362
  • So I said, "Well, okay, meet me,
  • 00:03:53.362 --> 00:03:55.498
  • you know, by the Brooklyn
  • 00:03:55.498 --> 00:03:58.034
  • Tabernacle at," you know,
  • 00:03:58.034 --> 00:03:59.568
  • whatever time I gave him.
  • 00:03:59.568 --> 00:04:01.470
  • And so then it was just, is this
  • 00:04:01.470 --> 00:04:03.139
  • kid gonna show up or not?
  • 00:04:03.139 --> 00:04:03.839
  • I didn't know if he was gonna
  • 00:04:03.839 --> 00:04:06.175
  • - male: Darren, what goes
  • 00:04:07.376 --> 00:04:08.110
  • through your mind right now
  • 00:04:08.110 --> 00:04:09.578
  • before you meet the guy?
  • 00:04:09.578 --> 00:04:10.413
  • - Darren: What's going through
  • 00:04:10.413 --> 00:04:11.514
  • my mind is I hope this guy
  • 00:04:11.514 --> 00:04:12.915
  • actually shows up.
  • 00:04:12.915 --> 00:04:13.983
  • That's all that's going through
  • 00:04:13.983 --> 00:04:15.451
  • my mind.
  • 00:04:15.451 --> 00:04:16.118
  • - male: Are you positive he's
  • 00:04:16.118 --> 00:04:17.820
  • coming?
  • 00:04:17.820 --> 00:04:18.621
  • - Darren: I'm pretty sure he's
  • 00:04:18.621 --> 00:04:19.388
  • coming.
  • 00:04:19.388 --> 00:04:20.222
  • I don't know why he wouldn't
  • 00:04:20.222 --> 00:04:21.457
  • come.
  • 00:04:21.457 --> 00:04:22.224
  • But if he doesn't come, then
  • 00:04:22.224 --> 00:04:24.193
  • we'll find some other--somebody
  • 00:04:24.193 --> 00:04:26.929
  • - Darren: -- Let's peek inside
  • 00:04:33.903 --> 00:04:34.770
  • real quick to see
  • 00:04:34.770 --> 00:04:38.074
  • - male: Do you wanna head that
  • 00:04:57.760 --> 00:04:58.461
  • way?
  • 00:04:58.461 --> 00:04:59.228
  • Or you wanna go somewhere?
  • 00:04:59.228 --> 00:05:01.097
  • Or you want me to split up?
  • 00:05:01.097 --> 00:05:01.764
  • - Darren: I'm not sure I wanna
  • 00:05:01.764 --> 00:05:02.498
  • go too far from where I told him
  • 00:05:02.498 --> 00:05:06.335
  • - male: Shall I just kind of
  • 00:05:11.974 --> 00:05:12.842
  • walk back and forth on this or
  • 00:05:12.842 --> 00:05:14.043
  • are you fairly sure he's in
  • 00:05:14.043 --> 00:05:15.745
  • here?
  • 00:05:15.745 --> 00:05:16.412
  • - Will Hacker: Is that this
  • 00:05:16.412 --> 00:05:17.079
  • guy?
  • 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:18.314
  • He's got a yellow jacket on.
  • 00:05:18.314 --> 00:05:19.081
  • - Darren: That's my boy.
  • 00:05:19.081 --> 00:05:24.820
  • - Darren: How you doing, man?
  • 00:05:29.191 --> 00:05:32.661
  • Are you okay for a while?
  • 00:05:32.661 --> 00:05:33.996
  • - Will: Hey, I'm Will, man.
  • 00:05:33.996 --> 00:05:34.997
  • Nice to meet you.
  • 00:05:34.997 --> 00:05:35.731
  • How are you?
  • 00:05:35.731 --> 00:05:36.532
  • - Jamie Galloway: I'm Jamie.
  • 00:05:36.532 --> 00:05:37.333
  • - James: Pleasure to meet you.
  • 00:05:37.333 --> 00:05:38.768
  • - Jamie: Nice to meet you, man.
  • 00:05:38.768 --> 00:05:39.502
  • - Darren: And I just want you
  • 00:05:39.502 --> 00:05:40.269
  • to know, the Lord's heard your
  • 00:05:40.269 --> 00:05:43.005
  • prayers and, like, he sent us
  • 00:05:43.005 --> 00:05:44.073
  • here for you, like, the
  • 00:05:44.073 --> 00:05:45.441
  • whole--this whole city of New
  • 00:05:45.441 --> 00:05:47.410
  • York, the Lord had his eyes on
  • 00:05:47.410 --> 00:05:50.246
  • you, 'cause I have a thing--I
  • 00:05:50.246 --> 00:05:51.414
  • told you I travel the world, I
  • 00:05:51.414 --> 00:05:53.149
  • film all over the place, right?
  • 00:05:53.149 --> 00:05:54.617
  • And so how the Lord speaks to me
  • 00:05:54.617 --> 00:05:56.285
  • is when I--'cause I hear lots of
  • 00:05:56.285 --> 00:05:57.586
  • stories, I meet lots of cool
  • 00:05:57.586 --> 00:05:59.355
  • people, and I can't film them
  • 00:05:59.355 --> 00:06:00.423
  • all, right?
  • 00:06:00.423 --> 00:06:01.390
  • And so what the Lord does is he,
  • 00:06:01.390 --> 00:06:02.558
  • like, gives me butterflies in my
  • 00:06:02.558 --> 00:06:03.559
  • stomach.
  • 00:06:03.559 --> 00:06:04.727
  • And that's when I know, like,
  • 00:06:04.727 --> 00:06:05.494
  • this is a story I need to
  • 00:06:05.494 --> 00:06:06.529
  • pursue.
  • 00:06:06.529 --> 00:06:08.230
  • - James: I feel honored being--
  • 00:06:08.230 --> 00:06:08.931
  • right now.
  • 00:06:08.931 --> 00:06:10.065
  • Like, there's actually a thing
  • 00:06:10.065 --> 00:06:11.434
  • that has a purpose.
  • 00:06:11.434 --> 00:06:12.301
  • - Darren: You do.
  • 00:06:12.301 --> 00:06:13.068
  • You do.
  • 00:06:13.068 --> 00:06:14.236
  • But you do have a purpose.
  • 00:06:14.236 --> 00:06:14.870
  • - James: I wanna be in the end
  • 00:06:14.870 --> 00:06:15.504
  • credits and people will be
  • 00:06:15.504 --> 00:06:17.606
  • crying for me.
  • 00:06:17.606 --> 00:06:18.407
  • - Darren: You do have a purpose
  • 00:06:18.407 --> 00:06:19.775
  • and it's--and I'll tell you
  • 00:06:19.775 --> 00:06:20.876
  • right now the purpose is not
  • 00:06:20.876 --> 00:06:21.544
  • what you think it is.
  • 00:06:21.544 --> 00:06:22.511
  • You're gonna find out tonight,
  • 00:06:22.511 --> 00:06:23.479
  • it's not what you think.
  • 00:06:23.479 --> 00:06:24.280
  • It's not--you're gonna get
  • 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:24.980
  • blessed tonight.
  • 00:06:24.980 --> 00:06:25.748
  • It's gonna be awesome.
  • 00:06:25.748 --> 00:06:26.382
  • - James: I'm gonna be nominated
  • 00:06:26.382 --> 00:06:27.817
  • for an Academy Award.
  • 00:06:27.817 --> 00:06:28.384
  • - Darren: I can't make that
  • 00:06:28.384 --> 00:06:29.118
  • promise.
  • 00:06:29.118 --> 00:06:30.052
  • But the Lord--I just saw--when I
  • 00:06:30.052 --> 00:06:31.487
  • saw you the other day, it was,
  • 00:06:31.487 --> 00:06:32.321
  • like, the Lord made it
  • 00:06:32.321 --> 00:06:33.088
  • super-clear and I got the
  • 00:06:33.088 --> 00:06:33.856
  • butterflies.
  • 00:06:33.856 --> 00:06:34.990
  • And so, like, he had his eyes on
  • 00:06:34.990 --> 00:06:38.260
  • you and he brought me to you.
  • 00:06:38.260 --> 00:06:38.928
  • - Darren: So is this where you
  • 00:06:38.928 --> 00:06:39.562
  • slept?
  • 00:06:39.562 --> 00:06:40.196
  • - James: This is where I slept
  • 00:06:40.196 --> 00:06:40.629
  • last night.
  • 00:06:40.629 --> 00:06:41.330
  • - Darren: Which--where, like,
  • 00:06:41.330 --> 00:06:42.465
  • on these benches over here or
  • 00:06:42.465 --> 00:06:43.332
  • what?
  • 00:06:43.332 --> 00:06:44.300
  • - James: Well, technically, I
  • 00:06:44.300 --> 00:06:46.502
  • slept not at this one.
  • 00:06:46.502 --> 00:06:47.069
  • - Darren: I wanna know the
  • 00:06:47.069 --> 00:06:49.338
  • exact one, bro.
  • 00:06:49.338 --> 00:06:50.239
  • - James: I slept here.
  • 00:06:50.239 --> 00:06:51.207
  • Now, my back was hitting this
  • 00:06:51.207 --> 00:06:52.007
  • while my head was hitting the--
  • 00:06:52.007 --> 00:06:52.775
  • - Darren: This is longer,
  • 00:06:52.775 --> 00:06:53.342
  • though.
  • 00:06:53.342 --> 00:06:54.109
  • Why would you sleep here when
  • 00:06:54.109 --> 00:06:55.311
  • this is longer, and you're a
  • 00:06:55.311 --> 00:06:56.078
  • tall guy.
  • 00:06:56.078 --> 00:06:56.679
  • - James: Actually, that's a
  • 00:06:56.679 --> 00:06:57.246
  • mistake.
  • 00:06:57.246 --> 00:06:57.913
  • I slept on this one right here.
  • 00:06:57.913 --> 00:06:58.581
  • You're right.
  • 00:06:58.581 --> 00:06:59.381
  • It was this one.
  • 00:06:59.381 --> 00:07:00.182
  • - Darren: Gonna say, this is,
  • 00:07:00.182 --> 00:07:01.283
  • like, scrunched up.
  • 00:07:01.283 --> 00:07:02.151
  • - James: I slept on
  • 00:07:02.151 --> 00:07:03.686
  • this one but--
  • 00:07:03.686 --> 00:07:04.520
  • - Jamie: And can you sleep?
  • 00:07:04.520 --> 00:07:05.588
  • The cops don't bug you?
  • 00:07:05.588 --> 00:07:06.455
  • - James: Yeah, for some reason,
  • 00:07:06.455 --> 00:07:07.423
  • I never get bugged here.
  • 00:07:07.423 --> 00:07:08.224
  • Maybe 'cause the security guards
  • 00:07:08.224 --> 00:07:08.991
  • don't go.
  • 00:07:08.991 --> 00:07:10.059
  • Maybe this isn't their beat,
  • 00:07:10.059 --> 00:07:11.026
  • but--
  • 00:07:11.026 --> 00:07:11.627
  • - Darren: Is this where
  • 00:07:11.627 --> 00:07:12.528
  • you always sleep?
  • 00:07:12.528 --> 00:07:13.128
  • - James: Well, it depends.
  • 00:07:13.128 --> 00:07:14.864
  • Like, a lot of times, honestly,
  • 00:07:14.864 --> 00:07:17.967
  • 'cause as crazy as it sounds,
  • 00:07:17.967 --> 00:07:19.702
  • money is literally on my mind
  • 00:07:19.702 --> 00:07:22.137
  • 24/7 so a lot of times, I will
  • 00:07:22.137 --> 00:07:23.339
  • just have that little, like,
  • 00:07:23.339 --> 00:07:24.340
  • that little hope in the back of
  • 00:07:24.340 --> 00:07:25.841
  • my head, told me that, maybe if
  • 00:07:25.841 --> 00:07:28.010
  • I had--I'll be like a zombie.
  • 00:07:28.010 --> 00:07:29.144
  • Two days is a--maybe that guy
  • 00:07:29.144 --> 00:07:30.513
  • will give us some money.
  • 00:07:30.513 --> 00:07:31.647
  • You know, like, literally, like,
  • 00:07:31.647 --> 00:07:32.882
  • following people when it gets to
  • 00:07:32.882 --> 00:07:33.616
  • that, you know?
  • 00:07:33.616 --> 00:07:34.517
  • Hoping that one person will be,
  • 00:07:34.517 --> 00:07:36.018
  • like, "Oh, you poor soul."
  • 00:07:36.018 --> 00:07:36.719
  • And like I said, it never
  • 00:07:36.719 --> 00:07:38.354
  • happens so, like, it gets to the
  • 00:07:38.354 --> 00:07:41.624
  • point where my body's, like,
  • 00:07:41.624 --> 00:07:42.424
  • where I literally anything I
  • 00:07:42.424 --> 00:07:43.492
  • say, it's, like, you know what?
  • 00:07:43.492 --> 00:07:44.226
  • I'm gonna go.
  • 00:07:44.226 --> 00:07:45.327
  • I'm just gonna sit right here
  • 00:07:45.327 --> 00:07:46.195
  • and I end up passing out.
  • 00:07:46.195 --> 00:07:47.363
  • Usually, it's on Fulton Street
  • 00:07:47.363 --> 00:07:48.163
  • 'cause that's where the people
  • 00:07:48.163 --> 00:07:49.064
  • are.
  • 00:07:49.064 --> 00:07:50.499
  • But, yeah, you know, in about an
  • 00:07:50.499 --> 00:07:52.301
  • hour, you'll have that, "Yo,
  • 00:07:52.301 --> 00:07:53.335
  • buddy, not here.
  • 00:07:53.335 --> 00:07:54.169
  • Nah, you gotta go.
  • 00:07:54.169 --> 00:07:54.837
  • You gotta go now.
  • 00:07:54.837 --> 00:07:55.504
  • I don't wanna see you here
  • 00:07:55.504 --> 00:07:56.405
  • again."
  • 00:07:56.405 --> 00:07:57.106
  • And I'm, like, "Oh."
  • 00:07:57.106 --> 00:07:57.907
  • And it's really embarrassing
  • 00:07:57.907 --> 00:07:58.908
  • when I have this, like, big
  • 00:07:58.908 --> 00:08:00.943
  • compromise and perfectly normal.
  • 00:08:00.943 --> 00:08:01.810
  • - Jamie: Well, we can tell you,
  • 00:08:01.810 --> 00:08:02.711
  • man.
  • 00:08:02.711 --> 00:08:04.847
  • At least, I speak for myself,
  • 00:08:04.847 --> 00:08:06.782
  • you know, that we're not
  • 00:08:06.782 --> 00:08:07.650
  • promising your life's gonna
  • 00:08:07.650 --> 00:08:09.818
  • change but something is gonna
  • 00:08:09.818 --> 00:08:11.854
  • change in your heart tonight.
  • 00:08:11.854 --> 00:08:13.622
  • Something is gonna affect you in
  • 00:08:13.622 --> 00:08:14.990
  • a way that I don't think you're
  • 00:08:14.990 --> 00:08:16.125
  • ever gonna be the same, man, you
  • 00:08:16.125 --> 00:08:17.159
  • know?
  • 00:08:17.159 --> 00:08:18.093
  • - James: I hope so.
  • 00:08:18.093 --> 00:08:18.861
  • - Jamie: And, you know, we're
  • 00:08:18.861 --> 00:08:20.863
  • not--and we're all beginners at
  • 00:08:20.863 --> 00:08:22.031
  • the table of God, you know?
  • 00:08:22.031 --> 00:08:23.866
  • Like, we just all come to him as
  • 00:08:23.866 --> 00:08:25.267
  • beginners, man.
  • 00:08:25.267 --> 00:08:26.201
  • And I just feel like something's
  • 00:08:26.201 --> 00:08:27.369
  • gonna break through for you
  • 00:08:27.369 --> 00:08:28.304
  • tonight, man.
  • 00:08:28.304 --> 00:08:30.072
  • And it may begin in your heart.
  • 00:08:30.072 --> 00:08:31.140
  • And so if there's any way we
  • 00:08:31.140 --> 00:08:32.575
  • could just touch your heart
  • 00:08:32.575 --> 00:08:34.310
  • tonight and give you faith, give
  • 00:08:34.310 --> 00:08:35.811
  • you hope, you know, there's
  • 00:08:35.811 --> 00:08:36.845
  • something better for you.
  • 00:08:36.845 --> 00:08:37.980
  • And you know that.
  • 00:08:37.980 --> 00:08:38.747
  • That's what your conscious is
  • 00:08:38.747 --> 00:08:39.381
  • telling you.
  • 00:08:39.381 --> 00:08:40.082
  • There's something bigger for
  • 00:08:40.082 --> 00:08:40.683
  • you.
  • 00:08:40.683 --> 00:08:41.317
  • There's something better for you
  • 00:08:41.317 --> 00:08:42.017
  • than this.
  • 00:08:42.017 --> 00:08:42.685
  • - James: Yeah, like, right now
  • 00:08:42.685 --> 00:08:43.819
  • this is, like, by far--this is
  • 00:08:43.819 --> 00:08:45.788
  • probably the best time I had,
  • 00:08:45.788 --> 00:08:46.855
  • honestly, even though I'm
  • 00:08:46.855 --> 00:08:48.390
  • speaking about the bad part of
  • 00:08:48.390 --> 00:08:49.725
  • my life, this is probably, you
  • 00:08:49.725 --> 00:08:51.060
  • know, one of the best times I
  • 00:08:51.060 --> 00:08:53.462
  • had since my mother passed
  • 00:08:53.462 --> 00:08:54.897
  • because, like I say, those 3
  • 00:08:54.897 --> 00:08:55.998
  • years, they weren't a nice 3
  • 00:08:55.998 --> 00:08:57.399
  • years--
  • 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:58.267
  • And it just feels good to have
  • 00:08:58.267 --> 00:08:59.468
  • people that are actually looking
  • 00:08:59.468 --> 00:09:01.337
  • at me as a human instead of
  • 00:09:01.337 --> 00:09:03.205
  • looking at me, like, c'mon,
  • 00:09:03.205 --> 00:09:04.540
  • let's go--you know what I mean?
  • 00:09:04.540 --> 00:09:06.208
  • And that kills me, you know?
  • 00:09:06.208 --> 00:09:07.843
  • - Darren: So anyway, here's
  • 00:09:07.843 --> 00:09:08.944
  • what we wanna do, bro.
  • 00:09:08.944 --> 00:09:10.613
  • We're gonna talk, like, a lot
  • 00:09:10.613 --> 00:09:11.947
  • tonight and stuff.
  • 00:09:11.947 --> 00:09:13.182
  • First thing we're gonna do, I
  • 00:09:13.182 --> 00:09:15.351
  • wanna get you some new clothes.
  • 00:09:15.351 --> 00:09:16.018
  • Can we go and buy you some
  • 00:09:16.018 --> 00:09:16.785
  • stuff?
  • 00:09:16.785 --> 00:09:17.386
  • - James: You serious, man?
  • 00:09:17.386 --> 00:09:17.953
  • - Darren: I'm dead serious.
  • 00:09:17.953 --> 00:09:18.587
  • - James: You don't gotta do
  • 00:09:18.587 --> 00:09:19.254
  • that for me, man.
  • 00:09:19.254 --> 00:09:19.989
  • I feel terrible.
  • 00:09:19.989 --> 00:09:20.889
  • I wanna at least do my job
  • 00:09:20.889 --> 00:09:21.590
  • first.
  • 00:09:21.590 --> 00:09:22.891
  • - Darren: No, no, 'cause here's
  • 00:09:22.891 --> 00:09:24.960
  • what Jesus said.
  • 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.895
  • Jesus said, "Look, if you've
  • 00:09:26.895 --> 00:09:28.797
  • done it for the least of these,
  • 00:09:28.797 --> 00:09:29.732
  • you've done it to me."
  • 00:09:29.732 --> 00:09:31.533
  • And so we love Jesus, right?
  • 00:09:31.533 --> 00:09:34.503
  • And right now, you're Jesus.
  • 00:09:34.503 --> 00:09:35.337
  • 'Cause right now, like,
  • 00:09:35.337 --> 00:09:36.372
  • you're--you know what I mean?
  • 00:09:36.372 --> 00:09:37.139
  • Like, we all need help.
  • 00:09:37.139 --> 00:09:38.474
  • Everybody needs help, you know
  • 00:09:38.474 --> 00:09:39.241
  • what I mean?
  • 00:09:39.241 --> 00:09:40.309
  • And so we just wanna, like, we
  • 00:09:40.309 --> 00:09:42.411
  • just wanna honor you and bless
  • 00:09:42.411 --> 00:09:43.912
  • you.
  • 00:09:43.912 --> 00:09:45.981
  • And we're gonna touch your
  • 00:09:45.981 --> 00:09:46.715
  • heart.
  • 00:09:46.715 --> 00:09:47.383
  • - James: That really means a
  • 00:09:47.383 --> 00:09:48.083
  • lot to me, man.
  • 00:09:48.083 --> 00:09:48.917
  • - Darren: You got it, bro.
  • 00:09:48.917 --> 00:09:49.618
  • - James: Thank you so much.
  • 00:09:49.618 --> 00:09:50.319
  • - Darren: You got it, bro.
  • 00:09:50.319 --> 00:09:52.287
  • So we're gonna head down here
  • 00:09:52.287 --> 00:09:54.390
  • and we're gonna take you
  • 00:09:54.390 --> 00:09:56.191
  • to--what time is it?
  • 00:09:56.191 --> 00:09:57.426
  • 'Cause we've gotta go hit stuff
  • 00:09:57.426 --> 00:09:58.661
  • before everything closes.
  • 00:09:58.661 --> 00:09:59.395
  • And then after that, we'll get
  • 00:09:59.395 --> 00:10:00.129
  • some dinner.
  • 00:10:00.129 --> 00:10:00.829
  • Does that sound good?
  • 00:10:00.829 --> 00:10:01.797
  • - James: Sounds great to me.
  • 00:10:01.797 --> 00:10:02.865
  • - Will: I don't have the credit
  • 00:10:02.865 --> 00:10:03.966
  • card; I got a hug, dude.
  • 00:10:03.966 --> 00:10:05.968
  • Yeah, that's amazing.
  • 00:10:05.968 --> 00:10:08.370
  • Amazing story, there.
  • 00:10:08.370 --> 00:10:12.408
  • - Darren: Today, we are looking
  • 00:10:12.408 --> 00:10:13.876
  • at the question, "How should we
  • 00:10:13.876 --> 00:10:15.678
  • treat the poor?"
  • 00:10:15.678 --> 00:10:17.980
  • And the--kind of the adventure
  • 00:10:17.980 --> 00:10:19.081
  • that's attached to this is a new
  • 00:10:19.081 --> 00:10:20.949
  • one that nobody's seen before.
  • 00:10:20.949 --> 00:10:24.253
  • I took Jamie and a couple of
  • 00:10:24.253 --> 00:10:25.454
  • other people and we went to New
  • 00:10:25.454 --> 00:10:26.955
  • York City.
  • 00:10:26.955 --> 00:10:28.791
  • And I felt the Lord leading us
  • 00:10:28.791 --> 00:10:31.360
  • to go and find somebody who is
  • 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.762
  • homeless and just kind of try to
  • 00:10:33.762 --> 00:10:35.330
  • change their life, like, in a
  • 00:10:35.330 --> 00:10:36.165
  • day.
  • 00:10:36.165 --> 00:10:37.066
  • I guess, let's just kind of jump
  • 00:10:37.066 --> 00:10:37.966
  • into it.
  • 00:10:37.966 --> 00:10:40.669
  • Like, how, like, on an everyday
  • 00:10:40.669 --> 00:10:41.937
  • average basis, and we're gonna
  • 00:10:41.937 --> 00:10:43.472
  • get to you in a second, but on
  • 00:10:43.472 --> 00:10:44.840
  • an everyday average basis, how
  • 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.443
  • should we treat the poor?
  • 00:10:47.443 --> 00:10:48.544
  • How do we deal with the poor
  • 00:10:48.544 --> 00:10:51.013
  • that are around us everywhere?
  • 00:10:51.013 --> 00:10:51.747
  • - Will Hart: I had this
  • 00:10:51.747 --> 00:10:52.815
  • conversation with my son 4 days
  • 00:10:52.815 --> 00:10:53.615
  • ago.
  • 00:10:53.615 --> 00:10:55.150
  • We were at Walmart, outside of
  • 00:10:55.150 --> 00:10:56.919
  • Walmart and getting into our car
  • 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.588
  • and get hit up for money from a
  • 00:10:59.588 --> 00:11:01.890
  • gentleman that had a legitimate
  • 00:11:01.890 --> 00:11:03.425
  • story.
  • 00:11:03.425 --> 00:11:04.793
  • First of all, I mean, no one
  • 00:11:04.793 --> 00:11:07.062
  • wants to be known as the poor,
  • 00:11:07.062 --> 00:11:07.996
  • right?
  • 00:11:07.996 --> 00:11:09.798
  • No one wants to be a project.
  • 00:11:09.798 --> 00:11:10.699
  • So the most important thing you
  • 00:11:10.699 --> 00:11:12.134
  • do is acknowledge somebody.
  • 00:11:12.134 --> 00:11:13.368
  • The worst thing you can do is
  • 00:11:13.368 --> 00:11:14.269
  • look away.
  • 00:11:14.269 --> 00:11:15.370
  • These are people that have moms,
  • 00:11:15.370 --> 00:11:16.505
  • that have dads, that have kids,
  • 00:11:16.505 --> 00:11:17.873
  • that have been hurt.
  • 00:11:17.873 --> 00:11:19.007
  • They're not a project, and
  • 00:11:19.007 --> 00:11:19.908
  • they're not something
  • 00:11:19.908 --> 00:11:22.745
  • that--people are people and they
  • 00:11:22.745 --> 00:11:24.113
  • need love, right?
  • 00:11:24.113 --> 00:11:25.147
  • So the worst that you can do is
  • 00:11:25.147 --> 00:11:26.381
  • not acknowledge somebody.
  • 00:11:26.381 --> 00:11:27.349
  • The worst thing you can do is
  • 00:11:27.349 --> 00:11:28.417
  • have this overwhelming guilt
  • 00:11:28.417 --> 00:11:29.985
  • that shuts you down from being
  • 00:11:29.985 --> 00:11:31.887
  • Jesus to anyone.
  • 00:11:31.887 --> 00:11:33.188
  • See, most people, like this kid,
  • 00:11:33.188 --> 00:11:35.257
  • all he want--you said it, Jamie,
  • 00:11:35.257 --> 00:11:36.158
  • he wanted friends.
  • 00:11:36.158 --> 00:11:37.392
  • He wanted to be acknowledged.
  • 00:11:37.392 --> 00:11:39.161
  • It's not even the gifts.
  • 00:11:39.161 --> 00:11:40.129
  • It's not the stuff.
  • 00:11:40.129 --> 00:11:41.096
  • He wants to be treated like a
  • 00:11:41.096 --> 00:11:43.265
  • human, like a person.
  • 00:11:43.265 --> 00:11:45.400
  • My son, Josh, he's 10.
  • 00:11:45.400 --> 00:11:47.002
  • He's, like, "Dad, why didn't you
  • 00:11:47.002 --> 00:11:48.270
  • give him money?
  • 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:49.972
  • You always give them money."
  • 00:11:49.972 --> 00:11:51.173
  • And this--and I explained to
  • 00:11:51.173 --> 00:11:52.007
  • him.
  • 00:11:52.007 --> 00:11:52.708
  • I tried to walk him through my
  • 00:11:52.708 --> 00:11:53.342
  • process.
  • 00:11:53.342 --> 00:11:55.177
  • Said, "Buddy, I try to be led by
  • 00:11:55.177 --> 00:11:57.412
  • the Holy Spirit in every single
  • 00:11:57.412 --> 00:11:59.214
  • situation like that."
  • 00:11:59.214 --> 00:12:01.150
  • But default, I give money, I
  • 00:12:01.150 --> 00:12:02.217
  • help, I bless.
  • 00:12:02.217 --> 00:12:03.852
  • The Lord says constantly, "It's
  • 00:12:03.852 --> 00:12:05.387
  • better to give than to receive,"
  • 00:12:05.387 --> 00:12:06.155
  • you know?
  • 00:12:06.155 --> 00:12:08.457
  • And I would default to giving.
  • 00:12:08.457 --> 00:12:09.858
  • I would default to spending
  • 00:12:09.858 --> 00:12:10.759
  • time.
  • 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:13.829
  • I would default to being put out
  • 00:12:13.829 --> 00:12:15.264
  • of your comfort zone over
  • 00:12:15.264 --> 00:12:17.699
  • ignoring or just, "I'm not there
  • 00:12:17.699 --> 00:12:19.134
  • and it's too--the issue's too
  • 00:12:19.134 --> 00:12:20.035
  • big."
  • 00:12:20.035 --> 00:12:21.270
  • I think that's a cop-out.
  • 00:12:21.270 --> 00:12:22.171
  • And I think a lot of us do it
  • 00:12:22.171 --> 00:12:23.872
  • and I get why.
  • 00:12:23.872 --> 00:12:24.773
  • - Deena Vant Hul: Yeah, and I
  • 00:12:24.773 --> 00:12:25.941
  • think that one of the things is
  • 00:12:25.941 --> 00:12:27.576
  • like what Will said, that I
  • 00:12:27.576 --> 00:12:30.078
  • realize that so many of these
  • 00:12:30.078 --> 00:12:31.647
  • people never felt like anyone
  • 00:12:31.647 --> 00:12:32.881
  • cared.
  • 00:12:32.881 --> 00:12:35.317
  • Like, cared enough to do
  • 00:12:35.317 --> 00:12:36.618
  • something, you know?
  • 00:12:36.618 --> 00:12:37.653
  • Cared enough to stop.
  • 00:12:37.653 --> 00:12:39.688
  • And so just the act of trying.
  • 00:12:39.688 --> 00:12:40.889
  • It didn't have to be perfect.
  • 00:12:40.889 --> 00:12:42.624
  • It didn't have to be everything.
  • 00:12:42.624 --> 00:12:44.993
  • But that when it's genuine, they
  • 00:12:44.993 --> 00:12:46.161
  • know it's genuine.
  • 00:12:46.161 --> 00:12:47.529
  • Like, when, you know.
  • 00:12:47.529 --> 00:12:50.165
  • And so that's what we set our
  • 00:12:50.165 --> 00:12:51.633
  • heart to do, is just really to
  • 00:12:51.633 --> 00:12:54.803
  • view people as important as I
  • 00:12:54.803 --> 00:12:56.305
  • would wanna be viewed or I would
  • 00:12:56.305 --> 00:12:58.407
  • want if I left the earth, I
  • 00:12:58.407 --> 00:13:00.175
  • would want my kids to be viewed
  • 00:13:00.175 --> 00:13:02.811
  • if they were the ones that were
  • 00:13:02.811 --> 00:13:04.847
  • hungry or fell into drugs and
  • 00:13:04.847 --> 00:13:06.682
  • were on the street and, you
  • 00:13:06.682 --> 00:13:07.783
  • know.
  • 00:13:07.783 --> 00:13:08.750
  • - Jamie: The ministry that this
  • 00:13:08.750 --> 00:13:10.719
  • guy needs, oddly enough, is
  • 00:13:10.719 --> 00:13:12.855
  • someone just to listen to him.
  • 00:13:12.855 --> 00:13:14.890
  • Not to tell him what his problem
  • 00:13:14.890 --> 00:13:16.024
  • is or tell him, you know--
  • 00:13:16.024 --> 00:13:16.658
  • - Darren: How to fix it.
  • 00:13:16.658 --> 00:13:17.492
  • - Jamie: Yeah, or, like, just
  • 00:13:17.492 --> 00:13:18.694
  • come in and, like, invade his
  • 00:13:18.694 --> 00:13:19.561
  • space and be, like,
  • 00:13:19.561 --> 00:13:21.496
  • "Da-da-da-da-da-da," you know?
  • 00:13:21.496 --> 00:13:22.865
  • But he just wants somebody--and
  • 00:13:22.865 --> 00:13:23.899
  • we've seen that.
  • 00:13:23.899 --> 00:13:24.933
  • He's been non-stop talking for
  • 00:13:24.933 --> 00:13:27.069
  • the last 25 minutes.
  • 00:13:27.069 --> 00:13:27.703
  • - Darren: What I found
  • 00:13:27.703 --> 00:13:28.470
  • interesting, we hadn't even
  • 00:13:28.470 --> 00:13:29.204
  • gotten to any of the good stuff
  • 00:13:29.204 --> 00:13:30.172
  • yet and he's, like, "This is the
  • 00:13:30.172 --> 00:13:32.140
  • best night since my mom died.
  • 00:13:32.140 --> 00:13:33.075
  • Just having people to talk to
  • 00:13:33.075 --> 00:13:34.343
  • me."
  • 00:13:34.343 --> 00:13:35.277
  • We didn't do anything, you know
  • 00:13:35.277 --> 00:13:36.011
  • what I mean?
  • 00:13:36.011 --> 00:13:36.645
  • And he's, like, "This is the
  • 00:13:36.645 --> 00:13:38.714
  • best night I've had in 5 years,"
  • 00:13:38.714 --> 00:13:39.948
  • or whatever it was, 3 years.
  • 00:13:39.948 --> 00:13:40.616
  • - Jamie: When he said that,
  • 00:13:40.616 --> 00:13:41.383
  • that blew me away.
  • 00:13:41.383 --> 00:13:42.551
  • I was sitting there, like, we
  • 00:13:42.551 --> 00:13:43.518
  • haven't even begun.
  • 00:13:43.518 --> 00:13:44.620
  • I mean, we just met him on the
  • 00:13:44.620 --> 00:13:45.621
  • corner.
  • 00:13:45.621 --> 00:13:46.655
  • He goes, "This is the best night
  • 00:13:46.655 --> 00:13:48.290
  • of my--" You know, I was, like,
  • 00:13:48.290 --> 00:13:49.491
  • "What?"
  • 00:13:49.491 --> 00:13:50.192
  • - Darren: All right, man, so
  • 00:13:50.192 --> 00:13:50.893
  • let's talk about this.
  • 00:13:50.893 --> 00:13:51.526
  • What do you need?
  • 00:13:51.526 --> 00:13:52.661
  • You need everything, right?
  • 00:13:52.661 --> 00:13:55.864
  • You need a new coat, 'cause it's
  • 00:13:55.864 --> 00:13:57.799
  • gonna get cold down here, right?
  • 00:13:57.799 --> 00:13:58.867
  • - James: So, I mean,
  • 00:13:58.867 --> 00:13:59.534
  • truthfully, I feel terrible you
  • 00:13:59.534 --> 00:14:00.435
  • guys doing this for me.
  • 00:14:00.435 --> 00:14:01.403
  • You guys are doing so much for
  • 00:14:01.403 --> 00:14:02.638
  • me.
  • 00:14:02.638 --> 00:14:03.305
  • - Darren: Don't worry about it,
  • 00:14:03.305 --> 00:14:03.972
  • bro.
  • 00:14:03.972 --> 00:14:04.640
  • - James: All I'm doing is
  • 00:14:04.640 --> 00:14:06.842
  • being, like, a person talking.
  • 00:14:06.842 --> 00:14:07.676
  • I haven't even done my job yet,
  • 00:14:07.676 --> 00:14:08.877
  • man.
  • 00:14:08.877 --> 00:14:09.544
  • - Jamie: There's nothing for
  • 00:14:09.544 --> 00:14:11.046
  • you to give us in this--
  • 00:14:11.046 --> 00:14:13.015
  • you've just gotta receive, dude.
  • 00:14:13.015 --> 00:14:14.049
  • - Darren: Yeah, and you know
  • 00:14:14.049 --> 00:14:14.650
  • what?
  • 00:14:14.650 --> 00:14:15.517
  • That's one of the hardest things
  • 00:14:15.517 --> 00:14:16.385
  • for people to do is receive.
  • 00:14:16.385 --> 00:14:17.052
  • Is receive.
  • 00:14:17.052 --> 00:14:17.819
  • And that's what God's always
  • 00:14:17.819 --> 00:14:18.854
  • asking of everybody: is just
  • 00:14:18.854 --> 00:14:19.922
  • receive my love.
  • 00:14:19.922 --> 00:14:20.689
  • I don't want anything back from
  • 00:14:20.689 --> 00:14:21.189
  • you.
  • 00:14:21.189 --> 00:14:21.857
  • Just receive.
  • 00:14:21.857 --> 00:14:22.491
  • - James: And that's crazy.
  • 00:14:22.491 --> 00:14:23.759
  • I'm sorry to keep cutting you
  • 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:24.793
  • guys off constantly but it's,
  • 00:14:24.793 --> 00:14:26.094
  • like, it's funny 'cause I'm
  • 00:14:26.094 --> 00:14:28.230
  • literally praying for--well,
  • 00:14:28.230 --> 00:14:29.197
  • usually I end up praying for
  • 00:14:29.197 --> 00:14:30.465
  • money but whatever the case is.
  • 00:14:30.465 --> 00:14:31.300
  • And it's, like, now that I'm
  • 00:14:31.300 --> 00:14:32.334
  • finally getting what I needed,
  • 00:14:32.334 --> 00:14:33.969
  • I'm, like, "Oh man, I feel--"
  • 00:14:33.969 --> 00:14:35.504
  • you know what I mean?
  • 00:14:35.504 --> 00:14:37.406
  • - Darren: Welcome to the club.
  • 00:14:37.406 --> 00:14:37.973
  • All right, let's head in.
  • 00:14:37.973 --> 00:14:39.007
  • Let's get some--
  • 00:14:39.007 --> 00:14:39.875
  • - James: 'Cause it feels
  • 00:14:39.875 --> 00:14:40.676
  • like I haven't really
  • 00:14:40.676 --> 00:14:41.310
  • done anything.
  • 00:14:41.310 --> 00:14:42.044
  • Like, if I worked for you guys
  • 00:14:42.044 --> 00:14:43.078
  • for, like, a week straight then
  • 00:14:43.078 --> 00:14:43.979
  • I'd be, like, "Okay, I deserve
  • 00:14:43.979 --> 00:14:44.579
  • it."
  • 00:14:44.579 --> 00:14:45.580
  • But it's, like, you know--
  • 00:14:45.580 --> 00:14:47.416
  • - Jamie: This is Iana, James.
  • 00:14:47.416 --> 00:14:48.884
  • James, Iana.
  • 00:14:48.884 --> 00:14:50.118
  • And I was telling her, you know,
  • 00:14:50.118 --> 00:14:51.820
  • get us something current.
  • 00:14:51.820 --> 00:14:53.088
  • Get us something, like, head to
  • 00:14:53.088 --> 00:14:54.890
  • toe, what you need and I was
  • 00:14:54.890 --> 00:14:56.224
  • saying, "Can you help us?"
  • 00:14:56.224 --> 00:14:57.526
  • And she said, "Yes," so.
  • 00:14:57.526 --> 00:14:58.894
  • - Iana: All right, ready?
  • 00:14:58.894 --> 00:14:59.728
  • - Jamie: Yeah, yeah, let's do
  • 00:14:59.728 --> 00:15:00.429
  • it.
  • 00:15:00.429 --> 00:15:01.330
  • - Iana: Anything, right?
  • 00:15:01.330 --> 00:15:02.531
  • - Jamie: Everything, yeah.
  • 00:15:02.531 --> 00:15:03.198
  • - Darren: The whole outfit.
  • 00:15:03.198 --> 00:15:03.832
  • We need a whole outfit.
  • 00:15:03.832 --> 00:15:06.568
  • - Iana: So what are you
  • 00:15:09.104 --> 00:15:09.871
  • wanting--
  • 00:15:09.871 --> 00:15:11.139
  • Do you like more hoodies or
  • 00:15:11.139 --> 00:15:13.041
  • would you like a sweater?
  • 00:15:13.041 --> 00:15:13.875
  • You don't know?
  • 00:15:13.875 --> 00:15:14.710
  • You don't care?
  • 00:15:14.710 --> 00:15:15.811
  • - James: I don't care.
  • 00:15:15.811 --> 00:15:16.878
  • - Jamie: Do you have this in
  • 00:15:16.878 --> 00:15:18.113
  • a--what do you want, a large or
  • 00:15:18.113 --> 00:15:19.581
  • extra-large?
  • 00:15:19.581 --> 00:15:21.583
  • - Will: Here's an extra-large.
  • 00:15:21.583 --> 00:15:24.119
  • Is this too much?
  • 00:15:24.119 --> 00:15:25.020
  • - James: I was telling, you
  • 00:15:25.020 --> 00:15:25.620
  • know, your other guy, like,
  • 00:15:25.620 --> 00:15:26.254
  • I don't want a sweater
  • 00:15:26.254 --> 00:15:27.189
  • 'cause the price is, like, $49
  • 00:15:27.189 --> 00:15:27.756
  • for it.
  • 00:15:27.756 --> 00:15:28.357
  • - Will: Oh, don't worry about
  • 00:15:28.357 --> 00:15:28.957
  • it, seriously.
  • 00:15:28.957 --> 00:15:29.791
  • All right, do we have this in a
  • 00:15:29.791 --> 00:15:31.493
  • large or extra-large?
  • 00:15:31.493 --> 00:15:34.429
  • He's not chubby like us.
  • 00:15:34.429 --> 00:15:36.698
  • He's not as chubby as I am.
  • 00:15:36.698 --> 00:15:37.265
  • - Iana: He's very tall so
  • 00:15:37.265 --> 00:15:38.433
  • probably the extra-large.
  • 00:15:38.433 --> 00:15:39.034
  • - Will: Yeah, with the
  • 00:15:39.034 --> 00:15:40.702
  • shoulders.
  • 00:15:40.702 --> 00:15:41.536
  • - Darren: Oh, that looks good,
  • 00:15:41.536 --> 00:15:42.070
  • dude.
  • 00:15:42.070 --> 00:15:42.938
  • Does it fit?
  • 00:15:42.938 --> 00:15:44.706
  • - Jamie: Yeah, boom.
  • 00:15:44.706 --> 00:15:45.574
  • Done.
  • 00:15:45.574 --> 00:15:46.141
  • - male: It fits.
  • 00:15:46.141 --> 00:15:46.875
  • - Jamie: How's that feel?
  • 00:15:46.875 --> 00:15:47.676
  • Good on you?
  • 00:15:47.676 --> 00:15:48.343
  • - James: Feels good, man.
  • 00:15:48.343 --> 00:15:49.311
  • Feels real good.
  • 00:15:49.311 --> 00:15:53.015
  • - James: I mean, I did see some
  • 00:15:54.783 --> 00:15:56.785
  • UGGs at The Journeys that go
  • 00:15:56.785 --> 00:15:58.887
  • for, like, $225.
  • 00:15:58.887 --> 00:16:00.689
  • Those are pretty nice.
  • 00:16:00.689 --> 00:16:01.323
  • - Darren: You'll have to start
  • 00:16:01.323 --> 00:16:02.791
  • - male: Activewear.
  • 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:06.094
  • - male: Yeah, activewear.
  • 00:16:06.094 --> 00:16:07.062
  • So you need something a little
  • 00:16:07.062 --> 00:16:08.230
  • more-- - James: I like these.
  • 00:16:08.230 --> 00:16:08.930
  • Maybe I could walk around
  • 00:16:08.930 --> 00:16:09.631
  • in these?
  • 00:16:09.631 --> 00:16:11.266
  • They look pretty nice.
  • 00:16:11.266 --> 00:16:12.467
  • Show the bulge.
  • 00:16:12.467 --> 00:16:14.336
  • - Jamie: Bro, try the--
  • 00:16:14.336 --> 00:16:15.103
  • - male: Oh dude, that's it.
  • 00:16:15.103 --> 00:16:16.204
  • Let's try that here.
  • 00:16:16.204 --> 00:16:17.973
  • - Will: I'm gonna put these in
  • 00:16:17.973 --> 00:16:19.674
  • the rack.
  • 00:16:19.674 --> 00:16:21.043
  • But what about those.
  • 00:16:21.043 --> 00:16:22.244
  • Look at those.
  • 00:16:22.244 --> 00:16:23.945
  • Those are actually really cute.
  • 00:16:23.945 --> 00:16:24.646
  • - James: No, these are them
  • 00:16:24.646 --> 00:16:27.182
  • right here, man.
  • 00:16:27.182 --> 00:16:28.884
  • These are, like, counterfeit
  • 00:16:28.884 --> 00:16:29.918
  • Adidas but I'll still go
  • 00:16:29.918 --> 00:16:30.685
  • for them.
  • 00:16:30.685 --> 00:16:32.654
  • - Darren: Having fun?
  • 00:16:34.823 --> 00:16:36.858
  • - Jamie: This is a blast, bro.
  • 00:16:36.858 --> 00:16:37.659
  • This is a blast.
  • 00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:38.794
  • This guy's face is just lighting
  • 00:16:38.794 --> 00:16:39.327
  • up.
  • 00:16:39.327 --> 00:16:40.896
  • And that is what's cool, man.
  • 00:16:40.896 --> 00:16:43.198
  • - Darren: All right, homey,
  • 00:16:44.900 --> 00:16:47.669
  • here's the deal.
  • 00:16:47.669 --> 00:16:49.704
  • We need--a man's not complete
  • 00:16:49.704 --> 00:16:51.406
  • without shoes.
  • 00:16:51.406 --> 00:16:53.275
  • This guy right here--
  • 00:16:53.275 --> 00:16:53.975
  • - male: Video guy.
  • 00:16:53.975 --> 00:16:55.177
  • - Darren: Video guy, is
  • 00:16:55.177 --> 00:16:57.212
  • sponsoring some shoes for you.
  • 00:16:57.212 --> 00:16:58.080
  • And we wanna go and get that
  • 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.014
  • done.
  • 00:16:59.014 --> 00:16:59.748
  • - Will: We're gonna go and get
  • 00:16:59.748 --> 00:17:00.449
  • some shoes.
  • 00:17:00.449 --> 00:17:01.383
  • - Darren: We've gotta go across
  • 00:17:01.383 --> 00:17:02.851
  • the street.
  • 00:17:02.851 --> 00:17:03.485
  • - Will: They do, but they
  • 00:17:03.485 --> 00:17:04.886
  • don't have the right shoes.
  • 00:17:04.886 --> 00:17:06.855
  • - James: This is as cold
  • 00:17:06.855 --> 00:17:07.989
  • as it is at night.
  • 00:17:07.989 --> 00:17:09.157
  • - Will: This is not planning
  • 00:17:09.157 --> 00:17:11.560
  • the show, not, like, but you're
  • 00:17:11.560 --> 00:17:12.928
  • for sure hitting our hearts,
  • 00:17:12.928 --> 00:17:13.962
  • man, and, like, we're falling in
  • 00:17:13.962 --> 00:17:15.263
  • love with you.
  • 00:17:15.263 --> 00:17:15.964
  • I don't know if you can feel
  • 00:17:15.964 --> 00:17:17.099
  • that but, like, we really enjoy
  • 00:17:17.099 --> 00:17:18.567
  • you.
  • 00:17:18.567 --> 00:17:19.668
  • So Bjorn wants to take you in
  • 00:17:19.668 --> 00:17:21.002
  • there and get you some UGGs,
  • 00:17:21.002 --> 00:17:22.304
  • all right?
  • 00:17:22.304 --> 00:17:22.804
  • - James: No, really,
  • 00:17:22.804 --> 00:17:23.738
  • UGGs?
  • 00:17:23.738 --> 00:17:25.207
  • That's crazy.
  • 00:17:25.207 --> 00:17:28.810
  • I don't wanna get
  • 00:17:34.382 --> 00:17:34.983
  • these, man.
  • 00:17:34.983 --> 00:17:37.219
  • These are $224.
  • 00:17:37.219 --> 00:17:38.587
  • What?
  • 00:17:38.587 --> 00:17:39.387
  • - Bjorn Amundsen: Hey, you have
  • 00:17:39.387 --> 00:17:40.355
  • to buy those shoes.
  • 00:17:40.355 --> 00:17:41.389
  • I will be furious with you if
  • 00:17:41.389 --> 00:17:43.725
  • - James: Well, this is freaking
  • 00:17:50.732 --> 00:17:58.807
  • awesome, man.
  • 00:17:58.807 --> 00:18:01.443
  • - James: These
  • 00:18:04.946 --> 00:18:05.780
  • UGGs are--
  • 00:18:05.780 --> 00:18:06.748
  • Yeah, I think the Timbs
  • 00:18:06.748 --> 00:18:07.883
  • are them, man.
  • 00:18:07.883 --> 00:18:09.084
  • Timbs are it.
  • 00:18:09.084 --> 00:18:09.684
  • - Darren: Okay, all you need
  • 00:18:09.684 --> 00:18:11.653
  • - Will: When you're 18 you're
  • 00:18:15.090 --> 00:18:16.024
  • supposed to worry about, like,
  • 00:18:16.024 --> 00:18:16.925
  • "Oh, do I have to get my
  • 00:18:16.925 --> 00:18:18.727
  • dad's old car?"
  • 00:18:18.727 --> 00:18:20.462
  • Or, like, you know.
  • 00:18:20.462 --> 00:18:22.164
  • I don't know, man, that's--it's
  • 00:18:22.164 --> 00:18:23.431
  • good for him to wake up, man,
  • 00:18:23.431 --> 00:18:24.633
  • just as a person.
  • 00:18:24.633 --> 00:18:26.635
  • Like, he's gonna meet Jesus.
  • 00:18:26.635 --> 00:18:29.004
  • - Jamie: He's meeting Jesus
  • 00:18:32.073 --> 00:18:34.276
  • right now.
  • 00:18:34.276 --> 00:18:35.644
  • This is, like, yeah, he's
  • 00:18:35.644 --> 00:18:37.679
  • meeting Jesus right now, dude.
  • 00:18:37.679 --> 00:18:39.381
  • - James: These are it, man.
  • 00:18:39.381 --> 00:18:40.815
  • And it's a crazy bargain.
  • 00:18:40.815 --> 00:18:42.317
  • They're, like, $100 off.
  • 00:18:42.317 --> 00:18:43.585
  • - male: Nice.
  • 00:18:43.585 --> 00:18:44.219
  • - James: They were going for,
  • 00:18:44.219 --> 00:18:47.489
  • - James: If I'm 95 years old,
  • 00:18:50.792 --> 00:18:51.993
  • I'll never forget this.
  • 00:18:51.993 --> 00:18:53.061
  • I know for a fact this is the
  • 00:18:53.061 --> 00:18:55.163
  • day when my spirituality really
  • 00:18:55.163 --> 00:18:57.966
  • got an awakening.
  • 00:18:57.966 --> 00:18:58.934
  • You follow what I'm saying?
  • 00:18:58.934 --> 00:19:01.136
  • 'Cause I was really--I was, kind
  • 00:19:01.136 --> 00:19:02.270
  • of like, done.
  • 00:19:02.270 --> 00:19:03.905
  • Like, not kinda, I was done.
  • 00:19:03.905 --> 00:19:07.042
  • I mean, I wasn't praying.
  • 00:19:07.042 --> 00:19:07.976
  • I mean, like, after I met you
  • 00:19:07.976 --> 00:19:11.213
  • yesterday, you know, I was,
  • 00:19:11.213 --> 00:19:13.048
  • kind of like,
  • 00:19:13.048 --> 00:19:14.082
  • bliss isn't really--
  • 00:19:14.082 --> 00:19:15.317
  • It's not really--
  • 00:19:15.317 --> 00:19:16.551
  • You know, I was happy.
  • 00:19:16.551 --> 00:19:17.986
  • I was really--I was gay,
  • 00:19:17.986 --> 00:19:20.956
  • I was happy.
  • 00:19:20.956 --> 00:19:23.858
  • See, people think when you say
  • 00:19:23.858 --> 00:19:24.960
  • "gay," oh, he's--no, it means
  • 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:26.428
  • happy.
  • 00:19:26.428 --> 00:19:28.263
  • Like in the 1800s, if you were--
  • 00:19:28.263 --> 00:19:28.863
  • - Darren: See, well, here's
  • 00:19:28.863 --> 00:19:29.631
  • the thing, dude.
  • 00:19:29.631 --> 00:19:30.232
  • We don't do this to make
  • 00:19:30.232 --> 00:19:31.399
  • ourselves feel good.
  • 00:19:31.399 --> 00:19:32.400
  • We do this 'cause Jesus touched
  • 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:33.501
  • us, you know what I mean?
  • 00:19:33.501 --> 00:19:35.470
  • Like, he did this for us.
  • 00:19:35.470 --> 00:19:36.638
  • - James: Hopefully, in a few
  • 00:19:36.638 --> 00:19:37.839
  • years, I can do this for
  • 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:38.506
  • somebody.
  • 00:19:38.506 --> 00:19:40.275
  • - Darren: You will.
  • 00:19:40.275 --> 00:19:41.142
  • I mean, think about what's
  • 00:19:41.142 --> 00:19:42.644
  • already happened, dude.
  • 00:19:42.644 --> 00:19:43.712
  • So you'll have money to go get
  • 00:19:43.712 --> 00:19:45.013
  • your ID.
  • 00:19:45.013 --> 00:19:46.348
  • You can look like a normal
  • 00:19:46.348 --> 00:19:47.582
  • person.
  • 00:19:47.582 --> 00:19:48.950
  • You can go get a job, dude.
  • 00:19:48.950 --> 00:19:50.185
  • - James: That's what I really
  • 00:19:50.185 --> 00:19:51.319
  • want, a job.
  • 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:52.554
  • So I can have funds where, like
  • 00:19:52.554 --> 00:19:53.822
  • I said, I could see someone like
  • 00:19:53.822 --> 00:19:55.090
  • this and I could say, "What do
  • 00:19:55.090 --> 00:19:55.824
  • you need?
  • 00:19:55.824 --> 00:19:56.391
  • Let me go to the bank.
  • 00:19:56.391 --> 00:19:56.891
  • What do you need--"
  • 00:19:56.891 --> 00:19:57.726
  • Do you know what I mean?
  • 00:19:57.726 --> 00:19:58.360
  • Where I could do something good
  • 00:19:58.360 --> 00:19:59.227
  • for someone.
  • 00:19:59.227 --> 00:19:59.928
  • - Darren: Exactly.
  • 00:19:59.928 --> 00:20:01.363
  • It ends tonight, man.
  • 00:20:01.363 --> 00:20:02.397
  • The cycle ends tonight, bro.
  • 00:20:02.397 --> 00:20:02.897
  • - James: Thank you
  • 00:20:02.897 --> 00:20:03.898
  • so much.
  • 00:20:03.898 --> 00:20:04.466
  • - Darren: C'mon, bro.
  • 00:20:04.466 --> 00:20:05.100
  • - Will: And you get to hang out
  • 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:06.001
  • with guys, right?
  • 00:20:06.001 --> 00:20:06.801
  • - James: Yeah, it's so good,
  • 00:20:06.801 --> 00:20:07.636
  • dude.
  • 00:20:07.636 --> 00:20:08.336
  • So good.
  • 00:20:08.336 --> 00:20:10.305
  • - Jake Hamilton: This is
  • 00:20:12.040 --> 00:20:13.608
  • a massive issue to God.
  • 00:20:13.608 --> 00:20:14.776
  • The book of Amos is an entire
  • 00:20:14.776 --> 00:20:16.378
  • prophetic book about how they're
  • 00:20:16.378 --> 00:20:17.646
  • doing all the right acts but
  • 00:20:17.646 --> 00:20:18.813
  • they weren't taking care of the
  • 00:20:18.813 --> 00:20:20.048
  • poor.
  • 00:20:20.048 --> 00:20:21.583
  • That entire book is based around
  • 00:20:21.583 --> 00:20:23.351
  • "I don't want your worship.
  • 00:20:23.351 --> 00:20:24.185
  • I'm sick and tired of all this
  • 00:20:24.185 --> 00:20:25.420
  • stuff you're doing 'cause you
  • 00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:27.022
  • have all the right acts but you
  • 00:20:27.022 --> 00:20:28.556
  • don't care for the people that I
  • 00:20:28.556 --> 00:20:30.292
  • care for the most."
  • 00:20:30.292 --> 00:20:32.160
  • And I think one of the major
  • 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:33.595
  • things is we know how to do all
  • 00:20:33.595 --> 00:20:35.063
  • the right stuff, we have all the
  • 00:20:35.063 --> 00:20:36.231
  • right moves, we have all the
  • 00:20:36.231 --> 00:20:37.732
  • right--I mean, the government
  • 00:20:37.732 --> 00:20:38.767
  • tried this, right?
  • 00:20:38.767 --> 00:20:40.368
  • They built homeless--they built
  • 00:20:40.368 --> 00:20:42.170
  • these massive projects for the
  • 00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:44.072
  • homes which became the projects
  • 00:20:44.072 --> 00:20:46.174
  • and the reason is, is you
  • 00:20:46.174 --> 00:20:47.876
  • can't--you have to change the
  • 00:20:47.876 --> 00:20:50.011
  • inside of a human being before
  • 00:20:50.011 --> 00:20:52.080
  • you're able to put them--I mean,
  • 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:53.281
  • Kris Vallotton says it a lot.
  • 00:20:53.281 --> 00:20:54.883
  • Like, if you take a pauper and
  • 00:20:54.883 --> 00:20:56.184
  • put him in a palace, he'll turn
  • 00:20:56.184 --> 00:20:57.452
  • it into a prison because he
  • 00:20:57.452 --> 00:20:58.720
  • doesn't know who he is on the
  • 00:20:58.720 --> 00:20:59.587
  • inside.
  • 00:20:59.587 --> 00:21:00.789
  • So any sort of gift that you're
  • 00:21:00.789 --> 00:21:01.890
  • giving them, if you don't
  • 00:21:01.890 --> 00:21:03.024
  • transform the inside of a human
  • 00:21:03.024 --> 00:21:04.893
  • being, they'll transform their
  • 00:21:04.893 --> 00:21:07.128
  • environment into who they think
  • 00:21:07.128 --> 00:21:08.797
  • they are and what they think
  • 00:21:08.797 --> 00:21:10.065
  • they're worth.
  • 00:21:10.065 --> 00:21:11.633
  • And that's why I think a lot of
  • 00:21:11.633 --> 00:21:13.868
  • the conversations about, like,
  • 00:21:13.868 --> 00:21:15.103
  • we just need to spend time with
  • 00:21:15.103 --> 00:21:15.904
  • people.
  • 00:21:15.904 --> 00:21:16.638
  • It actually is a time
  • 00:21:16.638 --> 00:21:17.405
  • investment.
  • 00:21:17.405 --> 00:21:19.207
  • It's an actual Holy Spirit-led
  • 00:21:19.207 --> 00:21:20.942
  • engagement.
  • 00:21:20.942 --> 00:21:21.910
  • - Jamie: The message of the
  • 00:21:21.910 --> 00:21:23.211
  • gospel is the transformative
  • 00:21:23.211 --> 00:21:24.112
  • power of God.
  • 00:21:24.112 --> 00:21:25.480
  • And if we don't believe that,
  • 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:26.981
  • then we'll just begin to
  • 00:21:26.981 --> 00:21:28.683
  • minimize that message.
  • 00:21:28.683 --> 00:21:32.087
  • Jesus says this, look, "Go tell
  • 00:21:32.087 --> 00:21:33.922
  • John the Baptist the things that
  • 00:21:33.922 --> 00:21:35.523
  • you saw and heard."
  • 00:21:35.523 --> 00:21:36.991
  • He says, "The blind see, the
  • 00:21:36.991 --> 00:21:38.593
  • lame walk, and the poor have the
  • 00:21:38.593 --> 00:21:41.496
  • gospel preached to them."
  • 00:21:41.496 --> 00:21:43.998
  • If it was good enough for Jesus,
  • 00:21:43.998 --> 00:21:46.267
  • why are we minimizing this
  • 00:21:46.267 --> 00:21:48.203
  • message, this beautiful message?
  • 00:21:48.203 --> 00:21:49.704
  • Because I think when it takes a
  • 00:21:49.704 --> 00:21:51.406
  • hold of a person's heart, Jesus
  • 00:21:51.406 --> 00:21:53.041
  • says, "Blessed are the poor,"
  • 00:21:53.041 --> 00:21:54.876
  • right?
  • 00:21:54.876 --> 00:21:56.678
  • But, "For this is the--theirs is
  • 00:21:56.678 --> 00:21:57.779
  • the kingdom."
  • 00:21:57.779 --> 00:21:59.514
  • Then another translation or
  • 00:21:59.514 --> 00:22:02.183
  • another gospel says: "Blessed
  • 00:22:02.183 --> 00:22:04.786
  • are the poor in spirit."
  • 00:22:04.786 --> 00:22:06.388
  • So someone could be just like
  • 00:22:06.388 --> 00:22:08.490
  • you said, rich in the natural
  • 00:22:08.490 --> 00:22:10.458
  • but poor in spirit.
  • 00:22:10.458 --> 00:22:11.993
  • But even so, someone could be
  • 00:22:11.993 --> 00:22:14.229
  • poor in the natural but their
  • 00:22:14.229 --> 00:22:16.197
  • real depravity is they're poor
  • 00:22:16.197 --> 00:22:18.333
  • - Jamie: Do you eat three meals
  • 00:22:19.934 --> 00:22:22.570
  • a day, or do you--
  • 00:22:22.570 --> 00:22:23.371
  • - James: This is all honestly
  • 00:22:23.371 --> 00:22:25.407
  • speaking, I--the average amount
  • 00:22:25.407 --> 00:22:27.876
  • of time it takes for me--
  • 00:22:27.876 --> 00:22:29.244
  • I'm not talking eat a meal.
  • 00:22:29.244 --> 00:22:31.413
  • I'm talking eat, you know, like,
  • 00:22:31.413 --> 00:22:32.247
  • something that I feel
  • 00:22:32.247 --> 00:22:33.348
  • comfortable that I would eat
  • 00:22:33.348 --> 00:22:34.549
  • besides giving me food
  • 00:22:34.549 --> 00:22:35.884
  • poisoning, like, have people,
  • 00:22:35.884 --> 00:22:36.451
  • "Here, you want a half a
  • 00:22:36.451 --> 00:22:37.752
  • sandwich that I had 2 weeks
  • 00:22:37.752 --> 00:22:39.387
  • ago?"
  • 00:22:39.387 --> 00:22:39.888
  • "Thank you,
  • 00:22:39.888 --> 00:22:41.055
  • but I appreciate it."
  • 00:22:41.055 --> 00:22:42.257
  • No, but it's usually, like,
  • 00:22:42.257 --> 00:22:46.127
  • 36 hours before I eat again.
  • 00:22:46.127 --> 00:22:47.262
  • It's usually a day and a half.
  • 00:22:47.262 --> 00:22:49.230
  • - Will: So once every 36 hours?
  • 00:22:49.230 --> 00:22:49.931
  • - James: If it's bad,
  • 00:22:49.931 --> 00:22:51.199
  • it's, like, 2.5, 3 days.
  • 00:22:51.199 --> 00:22:51.900
  • The worst it's ever been was,
  • 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:52.967
  • like, 3.5 days before I could
  • 00:22:52.967 --> 00:22:53.768
  • actually eat something.
  • 00:22:53.768 --> 00:22:54.469
  • But I was getting really
  • 00:22:54.469 --> 00:22:55.370
  • light-headed and I literally--
  • 00:22:55.370 --> 00:22:57.272
  • I stole something.
  • 00:22:57.272 --> 00:22:58.506
  • I had to.
  • 00:22:58.506 --> 00:22:59.307
  • Like, I was getting to the point
  • 00:22:59.307 --> 00:23:00.375
  • where I was really ill.
  • 00:23:00.375 --> 00:23:01.075
  • I had to take something
  • 00:23:01.075 --> 00:23:01.810
  • to eat.
  • 00:23:01.810 --> 00:23:03.578
  • It was, like--it was a doughnut
  • 00:23:03.578 --> 00:23:04.879
  • but I was--no one was listening
  • 00:23:04.879 --> 00:23:05.914
  • to me.
  • 00:23:05.914 --> 00:23:06.681
  • And I was really getting to the
  • 00:23:06.681 --> 00:23:08.383
  • point, I was, like, feeling
  • 00:23:08.383 --> 00:23:09.217
  • light-headed.
  • 00:23:09.217 --> 00:23:09.818
  • I said, "I gotta eat.
  • 00:23:09.818 --> 00:23:10.618
  • I don't care if they arrest me
  • 00:23:10.618 --> 00:23:11.619
  • because at least if I go to jail
  • 00:23:11.619 --> 00:23:12.720
  • they might give me a cheese
  • 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:13.555
  • sandwich."
  • 00:23:13.555 --> 00:23:15.757
  • Like, that's how sad it got.
  • 00:23:15.757 --> 00:23:17.125
  • And it still is.
  • 00:23:17.125 --> 00:23:18.159
  • Like, you guys are really, like,
  • 00:23:18.159 --> 00:23:19.060
  • saving my life.
  • 00:23:19.060 --> 00:23:20.595
  • You guys just gave me clothes,
  • 00:23:20.595 --> 00:23:21.729
  • bought me $140 pair of
  • 00:23:21.729 --> 00:23:23.298
  • Timberlands.
  • 00:23:23.298 --> 00:23:24.365
  • Really $200 but they were on
  • 00:23:24.365 --> 00:23:25.900
  • sale.
  • 00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:26.568
  • And you guys are treating me to
  • 00:23:26.568 --> 00:23:27.268
  • Juniors.
  • 00:23:27.268 --> 00:23:28.303
  • I mean, you guys are literally
  • 00:23:28.303 --> 00:23:31.272
  • like my family, honestly.
  • 00:23:31.272 --> 00:23:32.540
  • - Jamie: That's awesome, bro.
  • 00:23:32.540 --> 00:23:33.908
  • C'mon, dude.
  • 00:23:33.908 --> 00:23:35.710
  • C'mon, this is your day, dude.
  • 00:23:35.710 --> 00:23:37.345
  • C'mon, this is your day.
  • 00:23:37.345 --> 00:23:38.413
  • - James: And honestly, it's not
  • 00:23:38.413 --> 00:23:39.614
  • even my day 'cause I did nothing
  • 00:23:39.614 --> 00:23:40.815
  • to deserve this and that's what
  • 00:23:40.815 --> 00:23:41.983
  • shocks me about how nice you
  • 00:23:41.983 --> 00:23:42.584
  • guys are.
  • 00:23:42.584 --> 00:23:43.418
  • I didn't do nothing for you guys
  • 00:23:43.418 --> 00:23:44.786
  • to do this to me.
  • 00:23:44.786 --> 00:23:45.720
  • I was just some random guy
  • 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:46.888
  • sitting at a Burger King that he
  • 00:23:46.888 --> 00:23:47.789
  • approached.
  • 00:23:47.789 --> 00:23:48.490
  • He was, like, "Listen, I feel
  • 00:23:48.490 --> 00:23:49.457
  • bad."
  • 00:23:49.457 --> 00:23:50.291
  • And that's why I just feel like
  • 00:23:50.291 --> 00:23:51.893
  • thank you isn't enough.
  • 00:23:51.893 --> 00:23:53.495
  • Do you follow what I'm saying?
  • 00:23:53.495 --> 00:23:54.095
  • - Jamie: C'mon, we love you,
  • 00:23:54.095 --> 00:23:54.662
  • bro.
  • 00:23:54.662 --> 00:23:55.263
  • We love you.
  • 00:23:55.263 --> 00:23:56.531
  • We're glad you're here, dude.
  • 00:23:56.531 --> 00:23:57.198
  • - Darren: I spent--I mean,
  • 00:23:57.198 --> 00:23:57.966
  • we used to live in
  • 00:23:57.966 --> 00:23:59.133
  • Chicago for 18 years and you're
  • 00:23:59.133 --> 00:24:00.702
  • just--there's homeless people
  • 00:24:00.702 --> 00:24:01.436
  • everywhere.
  • 00:24:01.436 --> 00:24:02.170
  • You know what I mean?
  • 00:24:02.170 --> 00:24:03.037
  • And so, like, and I just
  • 00:24:03.037 --> 00:24:04.305
  • basically spent my whole life--
  • 00:24:04.305 --> 00:24:04.939
  • - James: That's it.
  • 00:24:04.939 --> 00:24:05.673
  • What makes me any different than
  • 00:24:05.673 --> 00:24:06.307
  • that other guy?
  • 00:24:06.307 --> 00:24:06.875
  • What makes me any different?
  • 00:24:06.875 --> 00:24:07.442
  • - Darren: Jesus had his eye
  • 00:24:07.442 --> 00:24:10.512
  • on you today.
  • 00:24:10.512 --> 00:24:11.145
  • - James: And that's what makes
  • 00:24:11.145 --> 00:24:12.080
  • me so grateful and I was really
  • 00:24:12.080 --> 00:24:13.214
  • to the point of suicidal
  • 00:24:13.214 --> 00:24:13.948
  • depression.
  • 00:24:13.948 --> 00:24:15.817
  • I'm, like, I have nothing.
  • 00:24:15.817 --> 00:24:16.985
  • I have not a [bleep]
  • 00:24:16.985 --> 00:24:18.586
  • thing and I'm getting cursed
  • 00:24:18.586 --> 00:24:20.121
  • out on daily.
  • 00:24:20.121 --> 00:24:21.022
  • I'm done with it.
  • 00:24:21.022 --> 00:24:21.890
  • I was really getting serious
  • 00:24:21.890 --> 00:24:23.024
  • thoughts about it and you guys
  • 00:24:23.024 --> 00:24:26.027
  • saved me from that.
  • 00:24:26.027 --> 00:24:26.561
  • - Darren: So, here's what
  • 00:24:26.561 --> 00:24:27.562
  • we got.
  • 00:24:27.562 --> 00:24:28.329
  • There's one last little fun
  • 00:24:28.329 --> 00:24:30.999
  • thing we're gonna do.
  • 00:24:30.999 --> 00:24:32.100
  • You've probably never heard of
  • 00:24:32.100 --> 00:24:33.668
  • them, I'm assuming, 'cause
  • 00:24:33.668 --> 00:24:36.271
  • you're 18, but there's a band
  • 00:24:36.271 --> 00:24:37.939
  • called "Big Daddy Weave."
  • 00:24:37.939 --> 00:24:38.740
  • - James: Heard of it.
  • 00:24:38.740 --> 00:24:39.374
  • - Darren: Have you heard of Big
  • 00:24:39.374 --> 00:24:39.841
  • Daddy Weave?
  • 00:24:39.841 --> 00:24:40.408
  • - James: Yes.
  • 00:24:40.408 --> 00:24:40.975
  • - Darren: Are you serious?
  • 00:24:40.975 --> 00:24:41.576
  • - James: On at the Tabernacle
  • 00:24:41.576 --> 00:24:42.176
  • today.
  • 00:24:42.176 --> 00:24:42.977
  • - Darren: Yeah, so they're at
  • 00:24:42.977 --> 00:24:43.778
  • Tabernacle.
  • 00:24:43.778 --> 00:24:44.512
  • So they're gonna play a private
  • 00:24:44.512 --> 00:24:47.949
  • show for us.
  • 00:24:47.949 --> 00:24:48.716
  • - James: When?
  • 00:24:48.716 --> 00:24:49.551
  • - Darren: Tonight, after we've
  • 00:24:49.551 --> 00:24:51.119
  • done eating.
  • 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.020
  • When's the last concert you went
  • 00:24:52.020 --> 00:24:52.720
  • to?
  • 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:53.254
  • - James: Never went to a
  • 00:24:53.254 --> 00:24:53.721
  • concert.
  • 00:24:53.721 --> 00:24:54.355
  • - Darren: You've never been to
  • 00:24:54.355 --> 00:24:54.722
  • a concert?
  • 00:24:54.722 --> 00:24:57.325
  • - Jamie: What I know, dude,
  • 00:24:57.325 --> 00:24:58.793
  • tonight's the night everything
  • 00:24:58.793 --> 00:25:00.862
  • changes, dude.
  • 00:25:00.862 --> 00:25:03.698
  • Everything changes, c'mon,
  • 00:25:03.698 --> 00:25:04.566
  • everything changes.
  • 00:25:04.566 --> 00:25:05.600
  • - James: This really--has
  • 00:25:05.600 --> 00:25:06.467
  • someone ever done something so
  • 00:25:06.467 --> 00:25:07.669
  • much for you, like, you really
  • 00:25:07.669 --> 00:25:09.370
  • couldn't, like, words really
  • 00:25:09.370 --> 00:25:11.339
  • couldn't describe, like,
  • 00:25:11.339 --> 00:25:12.674
  • what--how just like, say thank
  • 00:25:12.674 --> 00:25:13.808
  • you?
  • 00:25:13.808 --> 00:25:14.676
  • - Jamie: Yeah, man.
  • 00:25:14.676 --> 00:25:15.343
  • - James: Like, there's thank
  • 00:25:15.343 --> 00:25:16.578
  • you, like, "Oh, here you go,
  • 00:25:16.578 --> 00:25:17.078
  • sir.
  • 00:25:17.078 --> 00:25:17.779
  • Here's 50 cents."
  • 00:25:17.779 --> 00:25:18.846
  • "Oh, thank you, miss."
  • 00:25:18.846 --> 00:25:19.614
  • That's it.
  • 00:25:19.614 --> 00:25:20.715
  • But then someone does, you know,
  • 00:25:20.715 --> 00:25:21.883
  • something like this and you're,
  • 00:25:21.883 --> 00:25:23.051
  • just like, "I don't think 'thank
  • 00:25:23.051 --> 00:25:24.619
  • you' is enough."
  • 00:25:24.619 --> 00:25:25.386
  • Like thank you would feel kind
  • 00:25:25.386 --> 00:25:26.187
  • of rude to say, you know?
  • 00:25:26.187 --> 00:25:28.957
  • - Jamie: Oh, bro.
  • 00:25:28.957 --> 00:25:29.824
  • It's love, man.
  • 00:25:29.824 --> 00:25:30.625
  • You know what?
  • 00:25:30.625 --> 00:25:32.694
  • Everything that has happened
  • 00:25:32.694 --> 00:25:34.796
  • tonight is without, you know,
  • 00:25:34.796 --> 00:25:35.897
  • it's not--it's without
  • 00:25:35.897 --> 00:25:37.098
  • condition.
  • 00:25:37.098 --> 00:25:39.367
  • It's freely, you've received.
  • 00:25:39.367 --> 00:25:40.535
  • And then you were talking about
  • 00:25:40.535 --> 00:25:42.303
  • it in there, that you feel this,
  • 00:25:42.303 --> 00:25:43.805
  • like, noble obligation.
  • 00:25:43.805 --> 00:25:44.806
  • You wanna do something in your
  • 00:25:44.806 --> 00:25:46.975
  • life that's--that contributes,
  • 00:25:46.975 --> 00:25:50.445
  • that loves and gives back,
  • 00:25:50.445 --> 00:25:53.448
  • you know, that's it, man.
  • 00:25:53.448 --> 00:25:55.283
  • Just give, give freely.
  • 00:25:55.283 --> 00:25:56.084
  • - James: But listen, before I
  • 00:25:56.084 --> 00:25:58.353
  • met you guys, I'm not gonna lie,
  • 00:25:58.353 --> 00:25:59.687
  • I was, you know, looking, like,
  • 00:25:59.687 --> 00:26:02.190
  • every single bank or ATM I'd
  • 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:03.858
  • pass by, I was really, like,
  • 00:26:03.858 --> 00:26:05.126
  • looking inside of it, like,
  • 00:26:05.126 --> 00:26:06.728
  • that's how it was.
  • 00:26:06.728 --> 00:26:08.463
  • I really felt hopeless, man,
  • 00:26:08.463 --> 00:26:10.298
  • like, 100% hopeless.
  • 00:26:10.298 --> 00:26:12.734
  • It felt like there was no one
  • 00:26:12.734 --> 00:26:13.835
  • there to catch me.
  • 00:26:13.835 --> 00:26:15.470
  • Felt like I was just falling and
  • 00:26:15.470 --> 00:26:16.871
  • falling and falling and there
  • 00:26:16.871 --> 00:26:19.574
  • was absolutely no hope.
  • 00:26:19.574 --> 00:26:20.875
  • And I mean, like I said before,
  • 00:26:20.875 --> 00:26:22.110
  • I would never harm anyone or do
  • 00:26:22.110 --> 00:26:23.678
  • anything like that because, you
  • 00:26:23.678 --> 00:26:25.213
  • know, my mind changed after my
  • 00:26:25.213 --> 00:26:27.248
  • mother passed but, you know, the
  • 00:26:27.248 --> 00:26:29.917
  • thought does come because you're
  • 00:26:29.917 --> 00:26:30.952
  • sitting here and you're, like,
  • 00:26:30.952 --> 00:26:32.420
  • you know, I have no money and
  • 00:26:32.420 --> 00:26:34.288
  • the only person I could ask are
  • 00:26:34.288 --> 00:26:35.623
  • strangers and they don't wanna
  • 00:26:35.623 --> 00:26:36.758
  • hear it and I can't get mad at
  • 00:26:36.758 --> 00:26:38.226
  • them for not wanting to hear it,
  • 00:26:38.226 --> 00:26:39.260
  • you know?
  • 00:26:39.260 --> 00:26:40.962
  • No one has to give me money or
  • 00:26:40.962 --> 00:26:42.497
  • whatever the case is.
  • 00:26:42.497 --> 00:26:44.198
  • And I got scared, man.
  • 00:26:44.198 --> 00:26:45.266
  • I got scared.
  • 00:26:45.266 --> 00:26:46.901
  • And I figured, you know, well, I
  • 00:26:46.901 --> 00:26:48.269
  • have to figure this out because
  • 00:26:48.269 --> 00:26:49.404
  • I don't wanna die out here on
  • 00:26:49.404 --> 00:26:51.372
  • the streets.
  • 00:26:51.372 --> 00:26:52.407
  • And it's almost like I've become
  • 00:26:52.407 --> 00:26:53.541
  • bipolar, you know?
  • 00:26:53.541 --> 00:26:55.376
  • I'll think that and then later
  • 00:26:55.376 --> 00:26:56.511
  • on that day, I'll be, "Oh, I
  • 00:26:56.511 --> 00:26:57.712
  • should just kill myself," you
  • 00:26:57.712 --> 00:26:58.613
  • know what I mean?
  • 00:26:58.613 --> 00:26:59.380
  • It's, like, I've become kind of
  • 00:26:59.380 --> 00:27:00.982
  • crazy out here.
  • 00:27:00.982 --> 00:27:02.283
  • And you guys really just, like,
  • 00:27:02.283 --> 00:27:04.318
  • took me out of that whole mental
  • 00:27:04.318 --> 00:27:06.554
  • slump, the spiritual slump, and
  • 00:27:06.554 --> 00:27:07.355
  • just like, kinda--
  • 00:27:07.355 --> 00:27:08.322
  • - Jamie: C'mon.
  • 00:27:08.322 --> 00:27:09.223
  • - Darren: You know what?
  • 00:27:09.223 --> 00:27:10.124
  • you're not the only one to
  • 00:27:10.124 --> 00:27:11.526
  • receive tonight, buddy.
  • 00:27:11.526 --> 00:27:12.093
  • - James: What did the
  • 00:27:12.093 --> 00:27:13.127
  • security guard say?
  • 00:27:13.127 --> 00:27:14.429
  • - Darren: Hey, tomorrow,
  • 00:27:14.429 --> 00:27:15.663
  • it changes, you know.
  • 00:27:15.663 --> 00:27:16.597
  • Tomorrow you give,
  • 00:27:16.597 --> 00:27:21.069
  • - James: It's just a really big
  • 00:27:26.774 --> 00:27:28.676
  • change for me because, you know,
  • 00:27:28.676 --> 00:27:31.145
  • I'm so used to, you know, like,
  • 00:27:31.145 --> 00:27:32.847
  • being looked at as, like, that
  • 00:27:32.847 --> 00:27:33.715
  • thing.
  • 00:27:33.715 --> 00:27:34.549
  • I am, like, a human.
  • 00:27:34.549 --> 00:27:35.049
  • You know what I mean?
  • 00:27:35.049 --> 00:27:35.717
  • - Darren: Yup.
  • 00:27:35.717 --> 00:27:37.018
  • Here's the deal.
  • 00:27:37.018 --> 00:27:38.186
  • Like, we're all, like, dads,
  • 00:27:38.186 --> 00:27:38.986
  • right?
  • 00:27:38.986 --> 00:27:40.621
  • You're 18, yeah, okay.
  • 00:27:40.621 --> 00:27:42.857
  • We're all dads and, like, God,
  • 00:27:42.857 --> 00:27:46.027
  • he tells us he's our Father,
  • 00:27:46.027 --> 00:27:47.095
  • right?
  • 00:27:47.095 --> 00:27:49.664
  • And, like, a father wants to
  • 00:27:49.664 --> 00:27:51.099
  • save his kids if they're in
  • 00:27:51.099 --> 00:27:52.333
  • trouble.
  • 00:27:52.333 --> 00:27:53.267
  • Like, a true dad, that's what he
  • 00:27:53.267 --> 00:27:55.069
  • wants to do.
  • 00:27:55.069 --> 00:28:00.808
  • And this is just, honestly,
  • 00:28:00.808 --> 00:28:03.311
  • this is just a rescue mission
  • 00:28:03.311 --> 00:28:05.713
  • from your Father.
  • 00:28:05.713 --> 00:28:06.881
  • Hear what I'm saying?
  • 00:28:06.881 --> 00:28:07.582
  • - James: Absolutely.
  • 00:28:07.582 --> 00:28:08.249
  • - Darren: That's what this was.
  • 00:28:08.249 --> 00:28:09.083
  • It was a rescue mission 'cause
  • 00:28:09.083 --> 00:28:10.051
  • he was sick of seeing his kid
  • 00:28:10.051 --> 00:28:11.819
  • begging for change on the
  • 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:12.687
  • street.
  • 00:28:12.687 --> 00:28:13.321
  • Said, "It's time.
  • 00:28:13.321 --> 00:28:14.322
  • Enough is enough."
  • 00:28:14.322 --> 00:28:15.323
  • And he pinpoints you out of an
  • 00:28:15.323 --> 00:28:17.291
  • entire city.
  • 00:28:17.291 --> 00:28:18.960
  • I mean, that's our Dad.
  • 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:19.827
  • - James: Heavy words.
  • 00:28:19.827 --> 00:28:20.428
  • - Darren: That's our Father,
  • 00:28:20.428 --> 00:28:20.928
  • dude.
  • 00:28:20.928 --> 00:28:21.729
  • - Jamie: That's huge, dude.
  • 00:28:21.729 --> 00:28:22.330
  • That is huge, man.
  • 00:28:22.330 --> 00:28:24.298
  • - male: C'mon in.
  • 00:28:34.542 --> 00:28:35.510
  • - male: What's up, buddy?
  • 00:28:35.510 --> 00:28:37.478
  • - Darren: The story was just
  • 00:28:43.417 --> 00:28:44.852
  • getting started and the biggest
  • 00:28:44.852 --> 00:28:46.988
  • twists were about to unfold.
  • 00:28:46.988 --> 00:28:47.922
  • But we'll have to save that
  • 00:28:47.922 --> 00:28:49.290
  • for next time.
  • 00:28:49.290 --> 00:28:50.224
  • For now, I think it's important
  • 00:28:50.224 --> 00:28:51.692
  • to note that while Jesus did say
  • 00:28:51.692 --> 00:28:53.394
  • that what we do to the least of
  • 00:28:53.394 --> 00:28:55.296
  • these we do unto him, he also
  • 00:28:55.296 --> 00:28:56.764
  • pointed out that the poor will
  • 00:28:56.764 --> 00:28:58.900
  • be with us always.
  • 00:28:58.900 --> 00:29:00.067
  • Obviously, that's not an excuse
  • 00:29:00.067 --> 00:29:01.536
  • to do nothing but at the same
  • 00:29:01.536 --> 00:29:03.070
  • time I don't think it brings God
  • 00:29:03.070 --> 00:29:04.672
  • glory for us to simply be so
  • 00:29:04.672 --> 00:29:06.374
  • overwhelmed by all the need
  • 00:29:06.374 --> 00:29:08.109
  • around us that we become
  • 00:29:08.109 --> 00:29:10.878
  • crippled in our ability to love.
  • 00:29:10.878 --> 00:29:12.246
  • More than anything in my time
  • 00:29:12.246 --> 00:29:13.881
  • with James, the Lord was showing
  • 00:29:13.881 --> 00:29:15.416
  • me that while clothes and food
  • 00:29:15.416 --> 00:29:17.451
  • are wonderful necessities,
  • 00:29:17.451 --> 00:29:18.853
  • giving someone their dignity
  • 00:29:18.853 --> 00:29:20.621
  • back and actually seeing them
  • 00:29:20.621 --> 00:29:23.524
  • was the most important thing.
  • 00:29:23.524 --> 00:29:25.259
  • Not just with the homeless,
  • 00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:27.228

Video Keywords