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October 17, 2017
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  • - Darren Wilson: For 10 years,
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  • I've traveled the world in an
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  • attempt to film God touching
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  • people's lives, and I've
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  • captured some of the most
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  • incredible moments of faith and
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  • miracles ever caught on film.
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  • But I've discovered that faith
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  • is as much about questions, as
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  • it is answers, as much mystery,
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  • as it is certainty.
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  • So I want to take you on a new
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  • adventure.
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  • Together we'll wrestle with big
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  • questions about God, but we'll
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  • also see faith in its purest
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  • form.
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  • It's time to face our questions
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  • head on.
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  • It's time to see proof that God
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  • exists.
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  • It's time for, "Adventures with
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  • - Darren: We've all encountered
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  • people where after only a few
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  • minutes of conversation, it
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  • becomes painfully obvious that
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  • they, as Jesus put it, don't
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  • have ears to hear.
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  • Over the years, I've encountered
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  • many people who have no interest
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  • in hearing what I have to say
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  • about Jesus because they're too
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  • busy formulating their own
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  • defense against my words, which
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  • leads me to the question: can
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  • you ever waste your time
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  • ministering to someone?
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  • In our last episode, while in
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  • New York City, we met a homeless
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  • kid named James and spent the
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  • evening with him, buying him new
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  • clothes, taking him out to a
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  • good meal, and showing him that
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  • God sees him.
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  • Our friends, the band Big Daddy
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  • Weave, happened to be in town
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  • while we were there, so we
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  • brought James to The Brooklyn
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  • Tabernacle, where they were
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  • waiting to give him a private
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  • concert.
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  • And things quickly got very
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  • - male: Hey, James, this is
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  • Brad.
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  • He's the manager for Big Daddy
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  • Weave.
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  • This is James.
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  • - Brad Fogarty: So blessed to
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  • have you, man.
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  • - James: Nice to meet you, man.
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  • - Brad: Come on in, man.
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  • I wish this was my house, you
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  • know?
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  • - male: Yeah, come on in
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  • my house.
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  • - Brad: Hey, I'll check in with
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  • - male: Look at these chains,
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  • dude.
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  • - Brad: Where did you guys eat?
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  • - Darren: Junior's Cheesecake.
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  • - Brad: What's up, boys.
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  • - male: Hey, what's happening?
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  • - Brad: We want a free concert.
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  • - male: This is Big Daddy
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  • Weave.
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  • Darren, you wanna do some
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  • introductions?
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  • - Darren: Yeah.
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  • So, guys, this is James.
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  • He's our new bud.
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  • - male: Good to see you, man.
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  • - James: Pleasure to meet you.
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  • - male: James, bro, it's great
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  • to meet you, man.
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  • Thanks for coming, dude.
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  • - James: Nice to meet you,
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  • yeah.
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  • - male: Good to meet you,
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  • buddy.
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  • - James: Nice to meet you.
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  • - male: This is really cool for
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  • us, man.
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  • Thanks for coming out.
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  • - James: Yeah, man.
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  • This is a pleasure to be here,
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  • man.
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  • This is, like, beyond.
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  • I saw you guys in front--like,
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  • not in front.
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  • I saw, like, the posters.
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  • I'm walking by it, and I'm like,
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  • you know, like the people at The
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  • Tabernacle are making a big
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  • thing.
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  • Big Daddy Weave is coming.
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  • Who's that?
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  • And I looked in front, and I
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  • was like, "Oh, so that's who
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  • they are."
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  • And I met these guys, and they
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  • told me you guys are, like,
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  • crazy famous in the Christian
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  • world, and I'm like, "Wow."
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  • [music]
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  • - male: This is one of the
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  • songs that when we sing at
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  • night, like, people have heard
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  • on the radio kinda thing.
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  • And so, there are other songs
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  • they're kinda like, "Meh," you
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  • know?
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  • And then they hear one that they
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  • actually know, and then they
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  • think, "Oh, that's like--"
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  • It's, kind of, a letdown to us,
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  • 'cause we're hoping, like, they
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  • will like the other ones, too,
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  • you know?
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  • But they only get excited over
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  • the ones they heard on the
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  • radio.
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  • - [music]
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  • - male: So let's do sans
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  • la-la's, then, yeah, at the
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  • first.
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  • - male: Okay, yeah, yeah.
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  • - male: Yeah, just count
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  • into--this is called
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  • "The Only Name.
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  • - male: One--
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  • [music]
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  • Yours will be
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  • The only name
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  • That matters to me
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  • The only one
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  • Whose favor I seek
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  • The only name
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  • That matters to me
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  • Yours will be
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  • The friendship and affection
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  • I need, to feel
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  • My Father smiling on me
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  • The only name
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  • That matters to me
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  • Yours is the name
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  • The name that has saved me
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  • Mercy and grace
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  • The power that forgave me
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  • And your love is all
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  • I've ever needed
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  • When I wake up
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  • In the land of glory
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  • With the saints
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  • I will tell my story
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  • There will be one name
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  • that I proclaim
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  • When I wake up
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  • In the land of glory
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  • With the saints
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  • I will tell my story
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  • There will be one name
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  • That I proclaim
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  • Oh, yours will be
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  • The only name
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  • That matters to me
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  • The only one
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  • Whose favor I seek, God
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  • The only name
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  • That matters to me
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  • La-la, la-la, la-la, la-la
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  • La-la, la-la, la-la, la-la
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  • la-la, la-la
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  • La-la, la-la, la-la, la-la
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  • La-la-la-la
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  • [music]
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  • So I'll shake off
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  • These heavy chains
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  • Wipe away every stain
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  • That I'm not
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  • Who I used to be
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  • 'Cause I am redeemed
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  • You set me free, yeah
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  • So I'll shake off
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  • These heavy chains
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  • Wipe away every stain
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  • I'm not who I used to be
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  • O God
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  • I'm not who I used to be
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  • Jesus, I'm not
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  • Who I used to be
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  • 'Cause I am redeemed
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  • Thank you, God
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  • [music]
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  • Ooh, ooh
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  • [music]
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  • - male: James, dude, I feel
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  • like the Lord says this over
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  • you, dude.
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  • You know, you feel like there's
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  • been times when you had no place
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  • to go, dude.
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  • There's always been a home in
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  • him.
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  • There is home in him for you
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  • right now, man, I'm telling
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  • you, and he wants to make his
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  • home inside of you, dude.
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  • You'll never have to be alone,
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  • bro, 'cause he's for you, man,
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  • and he is with you, and every
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  • single one of us are too, man.
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  • [music]
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  • - male: Do you mind if we just
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  • prayed over you, man?
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  • We just gather together.
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  • - James: Yeah, man, let's pray,
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  • yeah.
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  • - male: Will you do it, man.
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  • Thank you, Jesus.
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  • - Brad: James, before we pray,
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  • if I can just ask you, and this
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  • word gets thrown around a lot,
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  • but I think you'll know where
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  • I'm going when I ask you this.
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  • Do you feel like the Lord,
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  • whether you know it was the Lord
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  • or not, but that there's just
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  • something in your heart, like a
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  • purpose that you sense or you
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  • see?
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  • - James: Absolutely, you know?
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  • It feels like, you know, since
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  • I've been out here, I've been
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  • having--I mean, it doesn't feel
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  • like it's physically been
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  • holding me down.
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  • You know, sometimes it kinda
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  • does, honestly, I feel like, you
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  • know?
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  • But I've just been, like, you
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  • know, depressed in being here,
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  • you know?
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  • Right now it makes me feel that,
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  • you know, I don't know what
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  • tomorrow is gonna bring or the
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  • next day.
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  • Just I haven't felt like this
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  • since my mother passed away
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  • years ago.
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  • I mean, obviously since--you
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  • know, I haven't felt like this
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  • since I was, like, 14, 15 years
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  • old, you know, and I kinda feel
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  • like, you know, I don't have a
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  • worry, you know?
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  • I'm not worrying about what am I
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  • gonna do tomorrow, what am I
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  • gonna do in 2 seconds, you know?
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  • Right now I'm just kinda living
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  • the moment, you know?
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  • I'm just being at peace, you
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  • know?
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  • I just feel like kinda broken
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  • with the chains.
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  • Do you follow what I'm saying?
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  • - Brad: I do follow.
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  • I'm really curious, though, just
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  • even deeper than that, past
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  • that, what you just know inside
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  • of you that you're to be doing.
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  • Do you follow what I'm saying?
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  • I'm not talking about being
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  • busy.
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  • I'm talking about purpose.
  • 00:08:42.180 --> 00:08:44.200
  • I've just been looking at you
  • 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:45.170
  • over here, and I feel like you
  • 00:08:45.170 --> 00:08:47.100
  • have an understanding of a
  • 00:08:47.100 --> 00:08:49.230
  • purpose, and this, seemingly, is
  • 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.120
  • holding you back.
  • 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.240
  • I want you to just forget about
  • 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:55.190
  • all this: being homeless, being
  • 00:08:55.190 --> 00:08:57.270
  • out on your own.
  • 00:08:57.270 --> 00:08:58.270
  • But that purpose, can you name
  • 00:08:58.270 --> 00:08:59.250
  • it?
  • 00:08:59.250 --> 00:09:00.170
  • Do you know it?
  • 00:09:00.170 --> 00:09:02.090
  • - James: Purpose for me in
  • 00:09:02.090 --> 00:09:03.000
  • life.
  • 00:09:03.150 --> 00:09:06.150
  • Honestly, man, I don't know.
  • 00:09:06.150 --> 00:09:08.130
  • I can't think of one, you know?
  • 00:09:08.130 --> 00:09:09.230
  • It's--like I said, you know, I
  • 00:09:09.230 --> 00:09:11.060
  • just pray to God and just hope
  • 00:09:11.060 --> 00:09:12.170
  • that wherever the purpose is,
  • 00:09:12.170 --> 00:09:13.270
  • you know?
  • 00:09:13.270 --> 00:09:14.200
  • He knows what's best, you know?
  • 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:15.230
  • I don't--I mean, what I wanna
  • 00:09:15.230 --> 00:09:17.140
  • do, I wanna become a surgeon
  • 00:09:18.060 --> 00:09:21.060
  • or a boxer.
  • 00:09:21.060 --> 00:09:22.100
  • That was my big thing when I was
  • 00:09:22.100 --> 00:09:23.050
  • a kid.
  • 00:09:23.050 --> 00:09:24.220
  • - male: Both use the hands,
  • 00:09:24.220 --> 00:09:25.100
  • right?
  • 00:09:25.100 --> 00:09:26.170
  • - Darren: James, you've been
  • 00:09:26.170 --> 00:09:27.050
  • telling us all night.
  • 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:29.130
  • You've been telling us all
  • 00:09:29.130 --> 00:09:30.060
  • night, but you don't know that
  • 00:09:30.060 --> 00:09:31.070
  • you've been telling us all
  • 00:09:31.070 --> 00:09:32.010
  • night.
  • 00:09:32.010 --> 00:09:33.000
  • All night long, you have been
  • 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:33.270
  • saying how you just wanna help
  • 00:09:33.270 --> 00:09:35.020
  • other people, all night long.
  • 00:09:35.020 --> 00:09:37.010
  • - James: Oh, of course.
  • 00:09:37.010 --> 00:09:37.290
  • I mean, like, that's what I
  • 00:09:37.290 --> 00:09:39.000
  • wanna do bad.
  • 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:39.290
  • Like, I didn't even think that
  • 00:09:39.290 --> 00:09:42.070
  • was a purpose.
  • 00:09:42.070 --> 00:09:43.000
  • I thought that I would just do
  • 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:43.210
  • that, 'cause it's like, you
  • 00:09:43.210 --> 00:09:44.220
  • know--
  • 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:45.160
  • - male: It's not a job.
  • 00:09:45.160 --> 00:09:46.030
  • It's a purpose.
  • 00:09:46.030 --> 00:09:47.190
  • - James: I was sitting at
  • 00:09:47.190 --> 00:09:48.090
  • Burger King yesterday.
  • 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:49.100
  • Some lady bought me, like, some,
  • 00:09:49.100 --> 00:09:50.180
  • like, onion rings, and this guy
  • 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:52.050
  • says like, "Do you mind if I
  • 00:09:52.050 --> 00:09:53.130
  • sit here?"
  • 00:09:53.130 --> 00:09:54.070
  • And I'm like, "All right," you
  • 00:09:54.070 --> 00:09:56.050
  • know, thinking maybe he was
  • 00:09:56.050 --> 00:09:57.230
  • like waiting for someone,
  • 00:09:57.230 --> 00:09:58.230
  • and he starts talking.
  • 00:09:58.230 --> 00:10:00.140
  • And at first, I'm like, "O God."
  • 00:10:00.140 --> 00:10:02.080
  • And then I start listening to
  • 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:03.030
  • what he says, 'cause I thought
  • 00:10:03.030 --> 00:10:04.180
  • he was one of those guys who's
  • 00:10:04.180 --> 00:10:05.130
  • like, "You know what?
  • 00:10:05.130 --> 00:10:06.080
  • I have a pretty big house, if
  • 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:07.100
  • you wanna come over."
  • 00:10:07.100 --> 00:10:07.260
  • I'm like, "No, no, I'm all
  • 00:10:07.260 --> 00:10:08.220
  • right."
  • 00:10:08.220 --> 00:10:09.070
  • I was about to say, "No, no, no,
  • 00:10:09.070 --> 00:10:09.270
  • it's okay."
  • 00:10:09.270 --> 00:10:11.050
  • And so, I'm hearing this
  • 00:10:11.050 --> 00:10:11.250
  • guy talk, and I'm like, "You
  • 00:10:11.250 --> 00:10:12.290
  • know what," you know?
  • 00:10:12.290 --> 00:10:14.040
  • And it's not like I heard his
  • 00:10:14.040 --> 00:10:15.010
  • story.
  • 00:10:15.010 --> 00:10:15.240
  • Just for some reason you're
  • 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:16.240
  • getting vibes from people.
  • 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.270
  • You get--you know how you just,
  • 00:10:18.270 --> 00:10:20.010
  • you know, something, you know?
  • 00:10:20.010 --> 00:10:21.090
  • Like, I've met people out here
  • 00:10:21.090 --> 00:10:22.110
  • where the vibe was like, "Don't
  • 00:10:22.110 --> 00:10:23.150
  • even talk to that guy," you
  • 00:10:23.150 --> 00:10:25.050
  • know?
  • 00:10:25.050 --> 00:10:26.110
  • And just for some reason, I
  • 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:27.050
  • could just, like, see the vibe
  • 00:10:27.050 --> 00:10:28.130
  • and feel the vibe and just be
  • 00:10:28.130 --> 00:10:30.010
  • like, "You know what?
  • 00:10:30.010 --> 00:10:30.250
  • Something--you know, this
  • 00:10:30.250 --> 00:10:33.130
  • is--you know, I think I should
  • 00:10:33.130 --> 00:10:34.210
  • go meet up with him tomorrow."
  • 00:10:34.210 --> 00:10:37.110
  • I've had countless amounts of
  • 00:10:37.110 --> 00:10:38.170
  • people, "Oh, there's a church."
  • 00:10:38.170 --> 00:10:41.090
  • And I'm just like, "Yeah, all
  • 00:10:41.090 --> 00:10:42.160
  • right" you know?
  • 00:10:42.160 --> 00:10:45.040
  • And like I said, just--and I'm
  • 00:10:46.100 --> 00:10:49.100
  • sorry if I'm like, ranting and
  • 00:10:49.100 --> 00:10:50.090
  • rambling.
  • 00:10:50.090 --> 00:10:50.240
  • I'm like going all over the
  • 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:51.180
  • place right now, right?
  • 00:10:51.180 --> 00:10:54.030
  • But, you know, it's just--so I
  • 00:10:54.030 --> 00:10:55.180
  • was, like, walking down Fulton
  • 00:10:55.180 --> 00:10:56.210
  • Street today, and I was
  • 00:10:56.210 --> 00:10:59.040
  • literally--you probably thought
  • 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:01.160
  • I was saying that just to say
  • 00:11:01.160 --> 00:11:02.150
  • it, like, oh, but I was really
  • 00:11:02.150 --> 00:11:03.210
  • walking to go meet up with these
  • 00:11:03.210 --> 00:11:05.010
  • guys, you know, 'cause remember
  • 00:11:05.010 --> 00:11:06.140
  • you told me, "Meet me on this
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  • side of The Brooklyn
  • 00:11:07.100 --> 00:11:07.250
  • Tabernacle."
  • 00:11:07.250 --> 00:11:08.140
  • I was about to cut the corner,
  • 00:11:08.140 --> 00:11:09.180
  • and I see them.
  • 00:11:09.180 --> 00:11:10.140
  • I'm like, "All right," and from
  • 00:11:10.140 --> 00:11:12.210
  • there on, man, you know, my life
  • 00:11:12.210 --> 00:11:15.190
  • changed.
  • 00:11:15.190 --> 00:11:16.220
  • And like I said, my purpose is,
  • 00:11:16.220 --> 00:11:18.100
  • now that you guys kinda
  • 00:11:18.100 --> 00:11:19.000
  • clarified it for me, I was a
  • 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.030
  • little bit confused, is to help
  • 00:11:20.030 --> 00:11:21.170
  • people when I get myself on my
  • 00:11:21.170 --> 00:11:23.280
  • - Darren: So in this episode,
  • 00:11:27.030 --> 00:11:27.220
  • we're asking the question: can
  • 00:11:27.220 --> 00:11:29.180
  • you ever waste your time
  • 00:11:29.180 --> 00:11:31.210
  • ministering to someone?
  • 00:11:31.210 --> 00:11:33.190
  • And I know most people hear
  • 00:11:33.190 --> 00:11:34.170
  • this, and the initial answer is,
  • 00:11:34.270 --> 00:11:37.270
  • "Duh, no," right?
  • 00:11:37.270 --> 00:11:39.250
  • But I wanna kinda, like, get--I
  • 00:11:39.250 --> 00:11:41.080
  • think we need to--and we'll get
  • 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:42.280
  • there in a second.
  • 00:11:42.280 --> 00:11:43.200
  • I think we need to probably,
  • 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:44.250
  • like, understand what we mean by
  • 00:11:44.250 --> 00:11:46.150
  • ministering, okay?
  • 00:11:46.150 --> 00:11:48.010
  • 'Cause that's a word that
  • 00:11:48.010 --> 00:11:48.230
  • has--carries a lot of
  • 00:11:48.230 --> 00:11:49.190
  • connotations, whatever.
  • 00:11:49.190 --> 00:11:50.220
  • But--and so, I'd just love to
  • 00:11:50.230 --> 00:11:53.230
  • hear, kind of, just your, we'll
  • 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:54.220
  • get into this, just your initial
  • 00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:55.290
  • thoughts on that.
  • 00:11:55.290 --> 00:11:57.010
  • Can you ever waste your time?
  • 00:11:57.010 --> 00:11:58.140
  • 'Cause I know you guys all have
  • 00:11:58.140 --> 00:11:59.100
  • wildly different ministries,
  • 00:11:59.100 --> 00:12:00.160
  • right?
  • 00:12:00.160 --> 00:12:01.220
  • Just your initial thoughts when
  • 00:12:01.220 --> 00:12:04.130
  • you hear that question.
  • 00:12:04.130 --> 00:12:05.100
  • Can you waste your time
  • 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:06.110
  • ministering to anyone?
  • 00:12:07.090 --> 00:12:10.090
  • - Shawn Bolz: Yes.
  • 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.120
  • - Darren: So you say yes.
  • 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:14.140
  • - Shawn: I'll be the spiritual
  • 00:12:14.140 --> 00:12:15.060
  • jerk.
  • 00:12:15.060 --> 00:12:17.040
  • - Bryan Schwartz: I'm with you.
  • 00:12:17.130 --> 00:12:20.130
  • - Darren: Wow, okay.
  • 00:12:20.130 --> 00:12:21.170
  • - Shawn: Well, there's
  • 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:22.050
  • different contexts, right, going
  • 00:12:22.050 --> 00:12:23.090
  • out to the streetá.
  • 00:12:23.090 --> 00:12:24.120
  • It's like--I mean, if someone's
  • 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:25.080
  • going crazy and you give them
  • 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.010
  • time, and they can't adjust
  • 00:12:27.020 --> 00:12:30.020
  • because of whatever their
  • 00:12:30.020 --> 00:12:31.000
  • problem is, 'cause you--or you
  • 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:32.200
  • don't have the authority, or you
  • 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:33.200
  • don't have the connection.
  • 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.080
  • You don't work with mentally
  • 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:36.090
  • handicapped or disabled or
  • 00:12:36.090 --> 00:12:37.140
  • bipolar, or whatever, and you're
  • 00:12:37.140 --> 00:12:39.120
  • trying to give time to something
  • 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:40.150
  • you don't even understand.
  • 00:12:40.150 --> 00:12:42.030
  • You're wasting your time and
  • 00:12:42.030 --> 00:12:43.290
  • their time, you know?
  • 00:12:43.290 --> 00:12:45.080
  • Like, so--but then, there's
  • 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:46.010
  • another context, which is, you
  • 00:12:46.010 --> 00:12:47.160
  • know, whether it's conferences
  • 00:12:47.160 --> 00:12:48.220
  • and ministry, or whether it's
  • 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:50.070
  • prayer lines, or whatever,
  • 00:12:50.070 --> 00:12:51.170
  • people have to be hungry to
  • 00:12:51.170 --> 00:12:53.260
  • grow, and that's be hungry for
  • 00:12:53.260 --> 00:12:55.190
  • what they want you to do for
  • 00:12:55.190 --> 00:12:57.090
  • them.
  • 00:12:57.090 --> 00:12:57.260
  • You know, God, wave your
  • 00:12:57.260 --> 00:12:58.290
  • magic wand over me and change
  • 00:12:58.290 --> 00:13:00.020
  • me, and there's always a
  • 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:00.270
  • process.
  • 00:13:00.270 --> 00:13:01.190
  • And so, what I find is that,
  • 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:03.180
  • like, 80 to 90% of people who
  • 00:13:03.180 --> 00:13:06.010
  • come to me, who want prayer,
  • 00:13:06.010 --> 00:13:08.080
  • it's because they want my
  • 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:11.010
  • breakthrough, who I am in God.
  • 00:13:11.010 --> 00:13:12.140
  • - Diane Schwartz: I think
  • 00:13:12.140 --> 00:13:13.000
  • there's times, too, that I've
  • 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.020
  • seen, when I look back, when I
  • 00:13:14.020 --> 00:13:16.060
  • have either regret or feel like
  • 00:13:16.060 --> 00:13:17.230
  • there wasn't the outcome that I
  • 00:13:17.230 --> 00:13:18.270
  • wanted, that I was hoping for, I
  • 00:13:18.270 --> 00:13:21.180
  • didn't hear the Holy Spirit that
  • 00:13:21.180 --> 00:13:24.050
  • that was--that I was the person.
  • 00:13:24.050 --> 00:13:25.180
  • Not that the person doesn't need
  • 00:13:25.180 --> 00:13:27.150
  • ministry or want help, but I may
  • 00:13:27.150 --> 00:13:30.000
  • not have been the person or the
  • 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.070
  • timing that God had for that
  • 00:13:31.070 --> 00:13:33.070
  • person.
  • 00:13:33.070 --> 00:13:34.070
  • There's a lot of times in
  • 00:13:34.070 --> 00:13:34.260
  • women's ministry, the Holy
  • 00:13:34.260 --> 00:13:36.100
  • Spirit would quicken me and say,
  • 00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:38.110
  • like, "You're standing in the
  • 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:39.070
  • way.
  • 00:13:39.070 --> 00:13:40.020
  • You're doing what the husband is
  • 00:13:40.020 --> 00:13:40.230
  • supposed to be doing," or,
  • 00:13:40.230 --> 00:13:41.210
  • "You're doing what their friend
  • 00:13:41.210 --> 00:13:43.090
  • is supposed to be doing," and if
  • 00:13:43.090 --> 00:13:44.170
  • you keep doing that, the husband
  • 00:13:44.170 --> 00:13:46.110
  • maybe never has to get to the
  • 00:13:46.110 --> 00:13:47.210
  • place where he can minister to
  • 00:13:47.210 --> 00:13:48.240
  • his wife, because you're
  • 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:49.250
  • standing in the way.
  • 00:13:49.250 --> 00:13:51.280
  • - Deena Vant Hul: Well, for me,
  • 00:13:51.280 --> 00:13:53.240
  • and I know for everybody else, I
  • 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.030
  • think that it's all about the
  • 00:13:55.030 --> 00:13:56.200
  • voice of God.
  • 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.030
  • And so, I know whenever I've
  • 00:13:58.030 --> 00:14:00.070
  • stepped out and it's not been
  • 00:14:00.070 --> 00:14:02.080
  • the voice of God, it's not been
  • 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.110
  • the Lord prompting me and
  • 00:14:04.110 --> 00:14:07.040
  • leading me, it's been a waste of
  • 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:08.240
  • time.
  • 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.070
  • But whenever it's been the voice
  • 00:14:10.070 --> 00:14:12.250
  • of God, I just feel like you
  • 00:14:13.030 --> 00:14:16.030
  • can't give enough.
  • 00:14:16.030 --> 00:14:17.090
  • And I think there is a huge
  • 00:14:17.090 --> 00:14:18.040
  • difference between love and
  • 00:14:18.040 --> 00:14:20.060
  • ministering, and I think that we
  • 00:14:20.060 --> 00:14:22.040
  • really need to step out of the
  • 00:14:22.040 --> 00:14:24.120
  • ministering role.
  • 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.000
  • And when it's God, it's love.
  • 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.270
  • And when it's love, it never
  • 00:14:28.270 --> 00:14:30.080
  • fails, never, never, never,
  • 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:31.210
  • never.
  • 00:14:31.210 --> 00:14:32.180
  • I mean, we--and we have--I mean,
  • 00:14:32.180 --> 00:14:34.070
  • we have kids that doctors from
  • 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:36.130
  • all over the world come.
  • 00:14:36.130 --> 00:14:37.190
  • They don't know what to do with
  • 00:14:37.190 --> 00:14:38.210
  • them, severe autism, you know?
  • 00:14:38.210 --> 00:14:40.260
  • And there's sometimes no
  • 00:14:40.260 --> 00:14:42.140
  • answers.
  • 00:14:42.140 --> 00:14:43.120
  • And, well, there is a point
  • 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.010
  • where we just look at each
  • 00:14:45.010 --> 00:14:46.030
  • other, and just remind each
  • 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:47.170
  • other, "All we need to do is
  • 00:14:47.170 --> 00:14:49.230
  • love."
  • 00:14:49.230 --> 00:14:50.280
  • And we know at the end of
  • 00:14:50.280 --> 00:14:52.210
  • the day it never fails, and it's
  • 00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:55.070
  • never unfruitful.
  • 00:14:55.070 --> 00:14:57.020
  • - Bryan: I'll just say it, and
  • 00:14:57.020 --> 00:14:58.040
  • you know me.
  • 00:14:58.040 --> 00:14:58.250
  • I'm presumptuous, and I mean
  • 00:14:58.250 --> 00:15:00.190
  • that in the sense of I'm all in
  • 00:15:00.190 --> 00:15:02.000
  • in most moments, and I will
  • 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.040
  • usually go way before the Lord
  • 00:15:04.040 --> 00:15:06.120
  • tells me to go.
  • 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:07.260
  • And those are the times that I
  • 00:15:07.260 --> 00:15:09.030
  • look back, and I go, "I gotta be
  • 00:15:09.030 --> 00:15:11.240
  • more discerning."
  • 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:12.270
  • I gotta do what Diane spoke of.
  • 00:15:12.270 --> 00:15:14.210
  • I have to mature and grow in
  • 00:15:14.210 --> 00:15:15.280
  • hearing.
  • 00:15:15.280 --> 00:15:16.260
  • Is he really assigning
  • 00:15:16.260 --> 00:15:17.150
  • me this?
  • 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:18.240
  • So I'm on assignment guy.
  • 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:19.110
  • If you give me an assignment,
  • 00:15:19.110 --> 00:15:20.050
  • I'll go, I'll go crush it.
  • 00:15:20.050 --> 00:15:22.010
  • My problem is getting out in
  • 00:15:22.010 --> 00:15:24.020
  • front of the assignment and then
  • 00:15:24.020 --> 00:15:25.120
  • have--just to be straight up,
  • 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:26.280
  • there's moments where I know
  • 00:15:26.280 --> 00:15:28.130
  • it's been a waste because I had
  • 00:15:28.130 --> 00:15:31.000
  • a hook attached.
  • 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.150
  • I was ministering because there
  • 00:15:32.150 --> 00:15:33.180
  • was an expectation of something
  • 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:34.280
  • - male: Yeah, I was just
  • 00:15:37.230 --> 00:15:39.040
  • thinking about something Darren
  • 00:15:39.040 --> 00:15:40.210
  • said earlier about the Father's
  • 00:15:40.210 --> 00:15:42.230
  • love.
  • 00:15:42.230 --> 00:15:44.280
  • Just how he sent us here to
  • 00:15:44.280 --> 00:15:47.270
  • Brooklyn, you know, just kinda
  • 00:15:47.270 --> 00:15:50.070
  • lined up the cards all in this
  • 00:15:50.070 --> 00:15:52.220
  • moment.
  • 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:53.260
  • Every one of us came together
  • 00:15:53.260 --> 00:15:55.000
  • just, honestly, because God
  • 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.150
  • wanted to talk to you.
  • 00:15:57.150 --> 00:15:59.120
  • He wanted to reach out to you,
  • 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.000
  • you know, 'cause the Father
  • 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:02.090
  • wants his kid back, you know?
  • 00:16:03.040 --> 00:16:06.040
  • You may never felt that, man,
  • 00:16:06.040 --> 00:16:07.110
  • but right now I know the Father
  • 00:16:07.110 --> 00:16:09.250
  • is just saying, "You're mine.
  • 00:16:09.250 --> 00:16:12.110
  • You belong to me," you know?
  • 00:16:12.110 --> 00:16:15.000
  • We're talking about Father God,
  • 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.090
  • that he loves you so much.
  • 00:16:16.090 --> 00:16:18.130
  • - male: Hey, man, I got a
  • 00:16:18.130 --> 00:16:19.050
  • question for you, dude.
  • 00:16:19.050 --> 00:16:20.170
  • I just, you know, gotta be real
  • 00:16:20.170 --> 00:16:21.230
  • straightforward.
  • 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:22.290
  • I just feel like to ask you,
  • 00:16:22.290 --> 00:16:24.110
  • James, you know, are you ready
  • 00:16:24.110 --> 00:16:25.160
  • to let that love in your heart,
  • 00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:28.000
  • I mean, just totally take over?
  • 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.030
  • - James: Absolutely, man.
  • 00:16:30.030 --> 00:16:31.210
  • - male: Yeah, we're gonna just
  • 00:16:31.210 --> 00:16:32.230
  • ask the love of God to invade
  • 00:16:32.230 --> 00:16:33.290
  • your heart, man, right now, just
  • 00:16:33.290 --> 00:16:36.270
  • invade the space of your heart,
  • 00:16:36.270 --> 00:16:38.070
  • take up every area of your
  • 00:16:38.070 --> 00:16:39.040
  • heart.
  • 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:40.170
  • Let's just put our hands on him,
  • 00:16:40.170 --> 00:16:41.200
  • man, and just love on this guy.
  • 00:16:43.170 --> 00:16:46.170
  • Father, we just thank you for
  • 00:16:46.170 --> 00:16:47.260
  • your great love, that you sent
  • 00:16:47.260 --> 00:16:49.110
  • us to James.
  • 00:16:49.110 --> 00:16:51.060
  • God, you reached out of heaven
  • 00:16:51.060 --> 00:16:52.270
  • into time and space, and you
  • 00:16:52.270 --> 00:16:55.170
  • sent us into this place in
  • 00:16:55.170 --> 00:16:57.010
  • Brooklyn.
  • 00:16:57.010 --> 00:16:58.150
  • And you had a desire that was so
  • 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.100
  • taking a hold of your heart,
  • 00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:04.090
  • that you wanted your son back.
  • 00:17:04.090 --> 00:17:06.200
  • - Brad: James, I asked you
  • 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.070
  • about purpose, you know, 'cause
  • 00:17:12.150 --> 00:17:15.150
  • you can't give people purpose.
  • 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.000
  • I mean, we can give you a coat,
  • 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:20.010
  • we can give you a meal, we can
  • 00:17:20.010 --> 00:17:22.020
  • buy you some sweet Timbers, you
  • 00:17:22.020 --> 00:17:23.290
  • know, Timberlands, but we can't
  • 00:17:23.290 --> 00:17:26.230
  • give you purpose.
  • 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:29.100
  • And I've been texting--I'm
  • 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.200
  • getting emotional because that's
  • 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.280
  • what the Lord does to me when he
  • 00:17:34.280 --> 00:17:36.210
  • takes hold of me.
  • 00:17:36.210 --> 00:17:39.050
  • I've been texting my wife, I've
  • 00:17:39.050 --> 00:17:41.070
  • been texting my best friend and
  • 00:17:41.070 --> 00:17:43.030
  • business partner about you.
  • 00:17:44.030 --> 00:17:47.030
  • And when the cameras turn off
  • 00:17:47.220 --> 00:17:50.220
  • and we're walking out, I'll let
  • 00:17:50.220 --> 00:17:52.130
  • you read them, because the love
  • 00:17:52.130 --> 00:17:55.070
  • of God has already preceded
  • 00:17:55.070 --> 00:17:56.060
  • this.
  • 00:17:59.100 --> 00:18:02.120
  • We'd like to make room for you
  • 00:18:02.120 --> 00:18:03.150
  • on the bus, if we can, and put
  • 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.160
  • you on the crew for 7 days.
  • 00:18:07.210 --> 00:18:10.210
  • And at the end of that 7 days,
  • 00:18:10.210 --> 00:18:11.240
  • I'm gonna take you home with me.
  • 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.130
  • I'll put you to work, and I'm
  • 00:18:14.130 --> 00:18:16.110
  • gonna pour into your life.
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:19.040
  • I'm gonna teach you the Word.
  • 00:18:19.040 --> 00:18:21.170
  • I'm gonna teach you how to pray,
  • 00:18:21.170 --> 00:18:22.210
  • teach you how to listen to the
  • 00:18:22.210 --> 00:18:23.140
  • Spirit.
  • 00:18:23.140 --> 00:18:25.060
  • I'm gonna freely give you what
  • 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:26.120
  • has been freely given to me, and
  • 00:18:26.260 --> 00:18:29.260
  • you know what I'm gonna do in
  • 00:18:29.260 --> 00:18:31.260
  • about 9 months from now?
  • 00:18:31.260 --> 00:18:33.290
  • Somewhere around August or
  • 00:18:33.290 --> 00:18:34.260
  • September, I'm gonna buy you a
  • 00:18:34.260 --> 00:18:36.250
  • plane ticket wherever it is you
  • 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:37.290
  • feel the Lord is calling you,
  • 00:18:38.010 --> 00:18:41.010
  • and then you're gonna go help
  • 00:18:41.010 --> 00:18:41.230
  • people.
  • 00:18:41.230 --> 00:18:43.150
  • I don't know how you're gonna do
  • 00:18:43.150 --> 00:18:44.040
  • it, but I know this: you're
  • 00:18:44.040 --> 00:18:45.200
  • gonna do it with that purpose he
  • 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.080
  • put in your heart, and you're
  • 00:18:47.080 --> 00:18:48.230
  • gonna do it with the power of
  • 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:50.080
  • God behind you, going before
  • 00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:51.160
  • you, and even encouraging you in
  • 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:53.220
  • your midst.
  • 00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:54.140
  • That's an offer.
  • 00:18:54.140 --> 00:18:55.210
  • That's not what you have to do.
  • 00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:57.190
  • I don't think your heart's gonna
  • 00:18:57.250 --> 00:19:00.270
  • go very far from Brooklyn.
  • 00:19:00.270 --> 00:19:02.210
  • Man, you're just gonna run back
  • 00:19:02.210 --> 00:19:03.110
  • here quickly.
  • 00:19:03.110 --> 00:19:05.050
  • I'm talking about a season where
  • 00:19:05.050 --> 00:19:06.110
  • you let the Lord shape you.
  • 00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:09.150
  • You let the Lord prepare you,
  • 00:19:09.150 --> 00:19:10.250
  • you know?
  • 00:19:10.250 --> 00:19:12.090
  • No different than if you're
  • 00:19:12.090 --> 00:19:13.100
  • gonna go to war.
  • 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:14.050
  • You go off to boot camp first,
  • 00:19:14.050 --> 00:19:15.130
  • right?
  • 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:17.040
  • If you're gonna go to a new job,
  • 00:19:17.040 --> 00:19:19.070
  • you go to training first.
  • 00:19:20.100 --> 00:19:23.100
  • If that interests you, again, we
  • 00:19:23.100 --> 00:19:24.280
  • can talk about it.
  • 00:19:24.280 --> 00:19:26.050
  • I'm sorry, but the text messages
  • 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.200
  • I was getting was God loving on
  • 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.100
  • you, people that haven't even
  • 00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:34.140
  • met you.
  • 00:19:34.140 --> 00:19:35.110
  • I just told them your story
  • 00:19:35.110 --> 00:19:36.050
  • through text, and they said,
  • 00:19:36.050 --> 00:19:37.180
  • "Bring him home."
  • 00:19:40.010 --> 00:19:43.010
  • - James: I'm feeling hot,
  • 00:19:43.010 --> 00:19:43.190
  • man.
  • 00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:45.010
  • Can we get some air?
  • 00:19:45.010 --> 00:19:46.070
  • - male: Yeah, man.
  • 00:19:46.070 --> 00:19:48.180
  • Let's do that.
  • 00:19:48.180 --> 00:19:49.090
  • Let's take a walk.
  • 00:19:49.090 --> 00:19:50.070
  • Let's take a walk right now.
  • 00:19:50.070 --> 00:19:51.180
  • - James: All right if I leave
  • 00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:52.060
  • my bag here?
  • 00:19:52.060 --> 00:19:52.260
  • - male: Yeah, dude.
  • 00:19:52.260 --> 00:19:53.250
  • - male: Wanna go take a walk?
  • 00:19:53.250 --> 00:19:54.130
  • - male: Yeah, bro.
  • 00:19:54.130 --> 00:19:56.180
  • - James: I feel rude if I come
  • 00:19:56.180 --> 00:19:57.160
  • up, like, no, 'cause, like,
  • 00:19:57.160 --> 00:19:58.200
  • they're, like, moving mountains
  • 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:00.120
  • and bridges, and I was always
  • 00:20:00.120 --> 00:20:01.210
  • the type of guy where I never
  • 00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:02.230
  • wanted to say no, but this is,
  • 00:20:02.230 --> 00:20:04.030
  • like, a lot, man.
  • 00:20:04.030 --> 00:20:05.090
  • - male: It's crazy, dude.
  • 00:20:05.090 --> 00:20:06.190
  • - James: Like, would I be wrong
  • 00:20:06.190 --> 00:20:07.120
  • if I told them no?
  • 00:20:07.120 --> 00:20:08.280
  • - male: Well, like, what else
  • 00:20:08.280 --> 00:20:10.070
  • you got for 7 days?
  • 00:20:10.070 --> 00:20:12.070
  • He's gonna help you get
  • 00:20:12.070 --> 00:20:13.020
  • everything that you need, and
  • 00:20:13.020 --> 00:20:14.230
  • then at the end of that, you can
  • 00:20:14.230 --> 00:20:15.240
  • do whatever you want.
  • 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.180
  • - James: It's just a lot, man.
  • 00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:18.210
  • - male: It is a lot.
  • 00:20:18.210 --> 00:20:19.180
  • - James: It's a lot.
  • 00:20:19.180 --> 00:20:20.130
  • - male: What's the scariest
  • 00:20:20.130 --> 00:20:21.020
  • thing?
  • 00:20:21.020 --> 00:20:21.260
  • What do you think?
  • 00:20:21.260 --> 00:20:22.140
  • - James: I don't know.
  • 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:23.050
  • - male: Like just talk me
  • 00:20:23.050 --> 00:20:23.220
  • through it, like, I don't
  • 00:20:23.220 --> 00:20:24.090
  • even know.
  • 00:20:24.090 --> 00:20:24.280
  • What's the scariest thing?
  • 00:20:24.280 --> 00:20:26.260
  • Like, what's the scary part?
  • 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:28.140
  • - James: It's just--watch out
  • 00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:29.190
  • for that bus.
  • 00:20:29.190 --> 00:20:31.170
  • - male: Thanks.
  • 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:33.000
  • I almost got hit.
  • 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:35.270
  • - James: It's just--I don't
  • 00:20:35.270 --> 00:20:37.190
  • know, man.
  • 00:20:37.190 --> 00:20:38.120
  • Let's cross the street.
  • 00:20:38.120 --> 00:20:39.200
  • I gotta find--I'm like really,
  • 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.120
  • like, [imitating heart beating],
  • 00:20:41.120 --> 00:20:43.080
  • man.
  • 00:20:44.170 --> 00:20:47.170
  • See, I feel like if I was like,
  • 00:20:47.170 --> 00:20:49.210
  • "No, I appreciate you moving
  • 00:20:49.210 --> 00:20:51.020
  • bridges, but screw yourself."
  • 00:20:51.020 --> 00:20:53.020
  • Like, that, like, kinda that
  • 00:20:53.020 --> 00:20:54.010
  • would kill the whole
  • 00:20:54.010 --> 00:20:55.100
  • documentary, too.
  • 00:20:55.100 --> 00:20:56.160
  • - male: No, no, no, no, no, no,
  • 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.190
  • here's the thing.
  • 00:20:57.190 --> 00:20:58.110
  • Do you know this?
  • 00:20:58.110 --> 00:20:59.050
  • Did you know that we--like, no
  • 00:20:59.050 --> 00:21:00.050
  • one in that room knew what he
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:02.070
  • was gonna say?
  • 00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:03.260
  • - James: No, it's just like I
  • 00:21:03.260 --> 00:21:04.200
  • hate telling people no, man.
  • 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:07.020
  • Like, you know, and it really
  • 00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:08.000
  • bothers me to, like, put someone
  • 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.000
  • down, because I know what it's
  • 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:10.060
  • like to be put down, but this
  • 00:21:10.060 --> 00:21:11.040
  • [bleep] is a lot.
  • 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:12.220
  • Like, you're gonna [bleep] toy
  • 00:21:12.220 --> 00:21:14.050
  • with these people?
  • 00:21:14.050 --> 00:21:15.090
  • Like, what the [bleep] is that?
  • 00:21:15.090 --> 00:21:17.210
  • - male: I think what it is, is
  • 00:21:17.210 --> 00:21:18.220
  • 'cause they've only got 7 days
  • 00:21:18.220 --> 00:21:19.240
  • left.
  • 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.010
  • That's why, like, they can't
  • 00:21:21.010 --> 00:21:21.250
  • just take you back, like take
  • 00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:23.160
  • you to, you know, like, to a
  • 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:26.070
  • place, because, like, they have
  • 00:21:26.070 --> 00:21:27.050
  • to finish their tour.
  • 00:21:27.050 --> 00:21:28.140
  • - James: Where are they even
  • 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:29.030
  • from?
  • 00:21:29.030 --> 00:21:30.190
  • - male: He lives in Missouri.
  • 00:21:30.190 --> 00:21:32.080
  • - James: Get the--I'm going
  • 00:21:32.080 --> 00:21:34.120
  • to--no, man.
  • 00:21:34.120 --> 00:21:35.270
  • I'm from Brooklyn.
  • 00:21:35.270 --> 00:21:36.230
  • What the [bleep] is going on
  • 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:37.200
  • here?
  • 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:38.180
  • - male: Like he said, you'll
  • 00:21:38.180 --> 00:21:39.090
  • come back.
  • 00:21:39.090 --> 00:21:40.000
  • - James: No, I'm only kidding,
  • 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:40.210
  • man, no.
  • 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:41.150
  • Like, Missouri, like, ooh.
  • 00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:43.250
  • - male: Here's my thought.
  • 00:21:43.250 --> 00:21:44.120
  • Would you rather have a home in
  • 00:21:44.120 --> 00:21:45.120
  • Missouri or be homeless here?
  • 00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:49.180
  • - James: Honestly, man, I know
  • 00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:50.120
  • this sounds crazy.
  • 00:21:50.120 --> 00:21:51.120
  • This is all I've known for the
  • 00:21:51.120 --> 00:21:52.170
  • past 18 years.
  • 00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:53.200
  • - male: I understand.
  • 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.010
  • Only thing I would say to you,
  • 00:21:55.010 --> 00:21:56.240
  • and I don't--honestly, I mean, I
  • 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:58.080
  • care, but I don't care.
  • 00:21:58.080 --> 00:21:59.260
  • Do you know what I mean?
  • 00:21:59.260 --> 00:22:00.130
  • Like, it's your life.
  • 00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:01.160
  • - James: Yeah, you just met me
  • 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:02.100
  • yesterday.
  • 00:22:02.100 --> 00:22:03.050
  • It's not like, "Listen, son."
  • 00:22:03.050 --> 00:22:05.110
  • - male: No, but I will tell you
  • 00:22:05.110 --> 00:22:06.000
  • this, and it's the same thing
  • 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:07.020
  • I'd tell one of my own kids.
  • 00:22:07.020 --> 00:22:08.260
  • Don't make a decision based on
  • 00:22:08.260 --> 00:22:10.130
  • fear.
  • 00:22:10.130 --> 00:22:12.030
  • It's not a good decision.
  • 00:22:12.030 --> 00:22:13.160
  • Do you feel good with this?
  • 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:14.190
  • This is what I feel like the
  • 00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:15.120
  • Lord is saying to do, 'cause,
  • 00:22:15.120 --> 00:22:16.180
  • again, he's--he knows our
  • 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:17.280
  • hearts.
  • 00:22:17.280 --> 00:22:18.130
  • He knows everything.
  • 00:22:18.130 --> 00:22:20.280
  • How about we give you Brad's
  • 00:22:20.280 --> 00:22:23.190
  • number, and it's your lifeline.
  • 00:22:24.050 --> 00:22:27.050
  • If you ever get out--
  • 00:22:27.050 --> 00:22:29.040
  • - James: That would be better.
  • 00:22:29.040 --> 00:22:29.270
  • - male: If you wanna go--if
  • 00:22:29.270 --> 00:22:31.030
  • you're like--let's say 2 weeks
  • 00:22:31.030 --> 00:22:32.190
  • from now everything is just
  • 00:22:32.190 --> 00:22:34.190
  • crap, there's--nothing's working
  • 00:22:34.190 --> 00:22:36.230
  • for ya, you have a number you
  • 00:22:36.230 --> 00:22:39.020
  • can call.
  • 00:22:39.020 --> 00:22:40.060
  • I guarantee you that man, he'll
  • 00:22:40.060 --> 00:22:42.210
  • come on a flight the next day to
  • 00:22:42.210 --> 00:22:43.290
  • come get you.
  • 00:22:43.290 --> 00:22:45.000
  • - James: That sounds much
  • 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:45.190
  • better to me.
  • 00:22:45.190 --> 00:22:46.180
  • - male: And then you can--so
  • 00:22:46.180 --> 00:22:47.220
  • that it's in your hands.
  • 00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:49.200
  • - James: 'Cause that gives me
  • 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:50.090
  • more time to really feel it, you
  • 00:22:50.090 --> 00:22:52.210
  • know?
  • 00:22:52.210 --> 00:22:53.120
  • And that gives me time to see if
  • 00:22:53.120 --> 00:22:54.110
  • my prediction is right, to see,
  • 00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:55.280
  • you know, if I went to the DMV,
  • 00:22:55.280 --> 00:22:57.180
  • if I got everything done.
  • 00:22:57.180 --> 00:22:58.170
  • - male: How can you--do you
  • 00:22:58.170 --> 00:22:59.180
  • have a way to call people?
  • 00:22:59.180 --> 00:23:00.290
  • - James: Yeah.
  • 00:23:00.290 --> 00:23:01.280
  • I mean, I could just go to one
  • 00:23:01.280 --> 00:23:02.200
  • of the phone stores and just,
  • 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:04.040
  • like, use the phone.
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:04.280
  • - male: You can call from that,
  • 00:23:04.280 --> 00:23:05.180
  • okay?
  • 00:23:05.180 --> 00:23:06.060
  • - male: I explained the whole
  • 00:23:12.100 --> 00:23:12.290
  • thing to 'em.
  • 00:23:12.290 --> 00:23:14.020
  • - Brad: Yeah, hey, man, look in
  • 00:23:14.020 --> 00:23:15.060
  • my eyes.
  • 00:23:15.060 --> 00:23:16.040
  • - James: I didn't wanna be,
  • 00:23:16.040 --> 00:23:16.250
  • like, disrespectful by being,
  • 00:23:16.250 --> 00:23:17.150
  • like--
  • 00:23:17.150 --> 00:23:18.050
  • - Brad: No, no, no, no,
  • 00:23:18.050 --> 00:23:19.050
  • I mean, literally, like, it's an
  • 00:23:19.050 --> 00:23:20.060
  • offer.
  • 00:23:20.060 --> 00:23:21.180
  • It's not an ultimatum.
  • 00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:22.260
  • Do you follow what I'm saying?
  • 00:23:22.260 --> 00:23:24.130
  • Do you know the difference?
  • 00:23:24.130 --> 00:23:25.150
  • - James: Yeah, absolutely.
  • 00:23:25.150 --> 00:23:26.050
  • - Brad: Yeah, so--
  • 00:23:26.050 --> 00:23:26.200
  • - James: Ultimatum is like,
  • 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.080
  • "Listen, man, if we don't
  • 00:23:27.080 --> 00:23:27.250
  • do it--"
  • 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:28.210
  • - Brad: Yeah, an ultimatum is
  • 00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:29.120
  • like it's now or never.
  • 00:23:29.120 --> 00:23:30.180
  • - James: It's just like I
  • 00:23:30.180 --> 00:23:31.100
  • never like saying no to
  • 00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:32.100
  • somebody, but this was, like--
  • 00:23:32.100 --> 00:23:34.080
  • - Brad: Well, bro, it's sudden,
  • 00:23:34.080 --> 00:23:35.240
  • and it's a lot.
  • 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:36.200
  • It's a lot, you know?
  • 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.040
  • - James: And, you know, they
  • 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:39.030
  • were telling me, you know, how
  • 00:23:39.030 --> 00:23:40.020
  • they would, you know, help me
  • 00:23:40.020 --> 00:23:41.050
  • get my ID, 'cause I had found
  • 00:23:41.050 --> 00:23:42.080
  • this place in the city called
  • 00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:43.080
  • the Covenant House.
  • 00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:44.060
  • It's basically--it's not like a
  • 00:23:44.060 --> 00:23:45.120
  • shelter, you know, you go
  • 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:46.120
  • through metal detectors.
  • 00:23:46.120 --> 00:23:47.100
  • It's really, kind of, like
  • 00:23:47.100 --> 00:23:49.020
  • a--it's literally meant for
  • 00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:53.260
  • people like me, people who aged
  • 00:23:53.260 --> 00:23:54.230
  • out of foster care, and they got
  • 00:23:54.230 --> 00:23:56.170
  • screwed by the system, don't
  • 00:23:56.170 --> 00:23:57.250
  • have any money or family.
  • 00:23:57.250 --> 00:23:58.260
  • - Darren: Okay, so we're here
  • 00:24:02.010 --> 00:24:03.020
  • in New York City, and it's been
  • 00:24:03.020 --> 00:24:05.070
  • almost a year and a half since
  • 00:24:05.070 --> 00:24:07.010
  • we filmed with James, and I
  • 00:24:07.010 --> 00:24:08.220
  • wanted to come back and see if I
  • 00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:10.210
  • can find him.
  • 00:24:10.210 --> 00:24:11.230
  • So we're gonna see--I remember
  • 00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:13.120
  • him saying something about there
  • 00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:15.100
  • is, like, a place called
  • 00:24:15.100 --> 00:24:16.120
  • Covenant House here right by
  • 00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:18.130
  • Times Square.
  • 00:24:18.130 --> 00:24:20.020
  • That he--that's where he said he
  • 00:24:20.020 --> 00:24:21.080
  • wanted to go there, try to
  • 00:24:21.080 --> 00:24:22.150
  • get--like, they'd give him a
  • 00:24:22.150 --> 00:24:23.150
  • job.
  • 00:24:23.150 --> 00:24:24.070
  • It's like a homeless shelter
  • 00:24:24.070 --> 00:24:25.010
  • for, like, youth and stuff, so
  • 00:24:25.010 --> 00:24:26.170
  • we're gonna go there first.
  • 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:28.180
  • See if he ever checked in, see
  • 00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:30.020
  • if they have any record of him,
  • 00:24:30.020 --> 00:24:31.020
  • see if he's maybe even still
  • 00:24:31.020 --> 00:24:31.240
  • there.
  • 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:32.260
  • If he's not there, we're gonna
  • 00:24:32.260 --> 00:24:33.210
  • head back to Brooklyn and see if
  • 00:24:33.210 --> 00:24:35.060
  • he's back in his old haunts, and
  • 00:24:35.060 --> 00:24:37.230
  • we'll try to find him there.
  • 00:24:37.230 --> 00:24:39.060
  • And I don't know if we're gonna
  • 00:24:39.060 --> 00:24:40.100
  • find him, but I just wanted to
  • 00:24:40.100 --> 00:24:41.110
  • give it one last shot to see
  • 00:24:41.110 --> 00:24:43.160
  • what happened to him in the year
  • 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:45.170
  • and a half since we filmed him,
  • 00:24:45.170 --> 00:24:46.160
  • - Darren: All right, so
  • 00:24:57.090 --> 00:24:58.010
  • here's--we're at Covenant House
  • 00:24:58.010 --> 00:24:58.290
  • right here, so we're gonna go in
  • 00:24:58.290 --> 00:25:00.260
  • and see if anybody will tell us
  • 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:02.010
  • if they've seen him or not.
  • 00:25:02.010 --> 00:25:03.190
  • - Darren: Hi, how are you
  • 00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:27.170
  • doing?
  • 00:25:27.170 --> 00:25:28.120
  • I have a weird question for you.
  • 00:25:28.120 --> 00:25:30.050
  • I don't even know where to
  • 00:25:30.050 --> 00:25:30.220
  • begin.
  • 00:25:30.220 --> 00:25:31.060
  • So I have a friend.
  • 00:25:31.060 --> 00:25:33.070
  • I met him about a year and a
  • 00:25:33.070 --> 00:25:33.280
  • half ago, and he said he was a
  • 00:25:33.280 --> 00:25:35.100
  • homeless kid, and he said he was
  • 00:25:35.100 --> 00:25:37.040
  • gonna try to come here to, like,
  • 00:25:37.060 --> 00:25:40.060
  • just become part of what you
  • 00:25:40.060 --> 00:25:41.260
  • guys are doing.
  • 00:25:41.260 --> 00:25:43.150
  • So I'm trying to figure out,
  • 00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:44.250
  • like, what happened to him, if
  • 00:25:44.250 --> 00:25:46.040
  • he ever did.
  • 00:25:46.040 --> 00:25:47.170
  • I have his name and everything.
  • 00:25:47.170 --> 00:25:49.110
  • - male: You got his name?
  • 00:25:49.110 --> 00:25:50.070
  • - Darren: Yeah.
  • 00:25:50.260 --> 00:25:53.260
  • Hi, so I have a friend who about
  • 00:25:54.100 --> 00:25:57.100
  • a year and a half ago I met him
  • 00:25:57.100 --> 00:25:58.270
  • in Brooklyn.
  • 00:25:58.270 --> 00:25:59.160
  • He was a homeless kid, and he
  • 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.050
  • was saying he was gonna try to
  • 00:26:01.050 --> 00:26:02.120
  • come here to come get his life
  • 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:05.230
  • back together, and I'm trying to
  • 00:26:05.230 --> 00:26:07.080
  • figure out if he ever checked in
  • 00:26:07.080 --> 00:26:09.230
  • here.
  • 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:10.160
  • I've got his name.
  • 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.050
  • It's been--we were with him in
  • 00:26:13.050 --> 00:26:14.170
  • He never checked in.
  • 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.120
  • Okay, I will go back to Brooklyn
  • 00:26:26.120 --> 00:26:29.020
  • and see if I can find him again.
  • 00:26:29.020 --> 00:26:31.270
  • Thanks, man.
  • 00:26:31.270 --> 00:26:32.160
  • Appreciate it.
  • 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.250
  • Bye-bye.
  • 00:26:33.250 --> 00:26:35.090
  • All right.
  • 00:26:35.090 --> 00:26:36.020
  • - male: There you go.
  • 00:26:36.020 --> 00:26:36.220
  • Good luck.
  • 00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:37.090
  • - Darren: See if we can find
  • 00:26:37.090 --> 00:26:37.280
  • him.
  • 00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:38.100
  • - male: See what happens.
  • 00:26:38.100 --> 00:26:38.270
  • All right.
  • 00:26:38.270 --> 00:26:39.110
  • - Darren: Thanks, man.
  • 00:26:39.110 --> 00:26:39.260
  • Appreciate it.
  • 00:26:39.260 --> 00:26:40.120
  • - male: Okay, no problem.
  • 00:26:40.120 --> 00:26:40.290
  • - Darren: Well, can't say I'm
  • 00:26:47.190 --> 00:26:49.190
  • surprised, but now we will
  • 00:26:50.220 --> 00:26:53.220
  • see, go ahead to Brooklyn.
  • 00:26:53.220 --> 00:26:56.100
  • I kinda know where he hung out,
  • 00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:57.290
  • so we'll head there next and
  • 00:26:57.290 --> 00:26:59.230
  • see if we can find him.
  • 00:27:01.150 --> 00:27:04.150
  • I don't know.
  • 00:27:04.150 --> 00:27:05.190
  • It's super frustrating when
  • 00:27:05.190 --> 00:27:07.100
  • people don't--you know, they
  • 00:27:07.100 --> 00:27:08.210
  • don't wanna be loved.
  • 00:27:08.210 --> 00:27:10.130
  • - Darren: Yeah, so these are
  • 00:27:21.110 --> 00:27:22.020
  • the benches right here he told
  • 00:27:22.020 --> 00:27:24.090
  • us he would always sleep.
  • 00:27:24.090 --> 00:27:25.180
  • This is where he'd sleep every
  • 00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:26.090
  • night.
  • 00:27:26.090 --> 00:27:28.240
  • And I remember asking him--like
  • 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:29.240
  • this is just where he'd hang
  • 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:30.170
  • out.
  • 00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:31.110
  • So he said he basically just
  • 00:27:31.110 --> 00:27:33.120
  • kinda works this area.
  • 00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:35.010
  • It's been a long time, so part
  • 00:27:35.010 --> 00:27:37.200
  • of me is not expecting to find
  • 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:38.250
  • him.
  • 00:27:38.250 --> 00:27:39.180
  • But again, you never know with
  • 00:27:39.290 --> 00:27:42.290
  • - Darren: So I talked to Brad,
  • 00:27:49.080 --> 00:27:50.150
  • the guy who'd originally made
  • 00:27:50.150 --> 00:27:51.240
  • the offer to James, before I
  • 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.050
  • came here, and he said, "If you
  • 00:27:54.050 --> 00:27:55.020
  • find him, tell him that the
  • 00:27:55.020 --> 00:27:56.220
  • offer still stands."
  • 00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:58.230
  • And he said, "We can get him a
  • 00:27:58.230 --> 00:28:00.170
  • job.
  • 00:28:00.170 --> 00:28:01.220
  • We'll put him through school."
  • 00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:03.060
  • Get him a job working at the ice
  • 00:28:03.060 --> 00:28:03.290
  • cream shop that they own.
  • 00:28:03.290 --> 00:28:05.180
  • Send him back to New York if
  • 00:28:05.180 --> 00:28:07.220
  • that's what he wants.
  • 00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:09.080
  • They can even send him overseas,
  • 00:28:09.080 --> 00:28:10.100
  • if that's, like, a dream of his.
  • 00:28:10.100 --> 00:28:13.040
  • And so, we've just been--you
  • 00:28:13.040 --> 00:28:14.230
  • know, we're looking around for
  • 00:28:14.230 --> 00:28:15.150
  • this kid and can't find him
  • 00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:18.250
  • anywhere, and it just kinda
  • 00:28:18.250 --> 00:28:20.140
  • reminds me of it's so like us,
  • 00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:23.280
  • you know?
  • 00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:24.190
  • It's like so often we can look
  • 00:28:24.190 --> 00:28:25.230
  • at something like this and think
  • 00:28:25.230 --> 00:28:26.240
  • like, you know, "This kid, he's
  • 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.110
  • so dumb.
  • 00:28:29.110 --> 00:28:30.010
  • He should have taken it when he
  • 00:28:30.010 --> 00:28:31.040
  • could."
  • 00:28:31.040 --> 00:28:31.190
  • But how often do we do that?
  • 00:28:31.190 --> 00:28:33.000
  • How often do we--like, God's
  • 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.200
  • offering us something new, he's
  • 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:35.280
  • offering us a new life with him,
  • 00:28:35.280 --> 00:28:38.120
  • but, like, we have to feel like
  • 00:28:38.120 --> 00:28:39.290
  • we have to get cleaned up, or,
  • 00:28:39.290 --> 00:28:41.150
  • you know, there is something
  • 00:28:41.150 --> 00:28:43.020
  • about our current situation we
  • 00:28:43.020 --> 00:28:44.150
  • think is so great that we can't
  • 00:28:44.150 --> 00:28:46.030
  • give up, or it's just so
  • 00:28:46.030 --> 00:28:48.170
  • familiar, we're afraid.
  • 00:28:48.170 --> 00:28:50.090
  • We don't trust God, but he's
  • 00:28:50.090 --> 00:28:52.080
  • always offering us something
  • 00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:53.240
  • better, and we don't take it
  • 00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:58.080
  • because we're afraid.
  • 00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:00.140
  • How many times--how many things
  • 00:29:00.140 --> 00:29:01.250
  • do we lose because we're afraid,
  • 00:29:03.010 --> 00:29:06.010
  • because we don't trust God?
  • 00:29:06.010 --> 00:29:07.260
  • The fact is that God's gonna
  • 00:29:07.260 --> 00:29:10.000
  • keep searching for us,
  • 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:10.290
  • he's going to keep going
  • 00:29:10.290 --> 00:29:11.190
  • after us, but after a while, he
  • 00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:13.220
  • might come and look for us
  • 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:14.160