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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: April 15, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now | April 15, 2025
- I'm excited about our guest today.
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- He's an expert on the
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- On the subject matter, but he's also a friend.
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- Jordan. rubin. welcome. thanks for having me.
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- I'm excited to be here.
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- I mean, you are synonymous with health and nutrition,
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- But you also wrap that around
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- A very strong respect for the authority of scripture.
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- So i know this has been a lifelong journey for you.
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- Maybe for those that are listening
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- That don't know your story.
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- To start with how this all became
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- So mission critical for you.
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- Well, i'd love to.
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- I think the passage that says to whom much is
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- Given, much is required or expected, is really
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- An appropriate way to describe why i do what i do.
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- My upbringing was rather unique.
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- I'm jewish 100%, or rather 99.
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- I apparently there was a moabite us and an inn keeper
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- In my lineage, but,
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- My parents came to know the lord when i was two.
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- So i grew up a little bit confused,
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- Thinking that i celebrate christmas and hanukkah.
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- But the truth is,
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- We didn't celebrate christmas, so i was a messianic jew.
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- But i definitely came to
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- Know a relationship with jesus more in a baptist church
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- And a bible study called experience in god
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- By henry black 80 years ago.
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- And it was an amazing, subtle, yet powerful shift
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- That at 16 years of age,
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- I could have a relationship with a living god.
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- Thank god that it turns out i already had one
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- From a younger age.
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- I just didn't know how to articulate it.
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- And when i was a teenager, i really committed to following
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- God. that led me to college, where
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- I was very involved in church.
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- I would minister to people in the student copy center,
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- And for those who don't know what a copy is, we,
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- We we used to actually
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- Make photocopies, not scans or take pictures
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- On our smartphones that we didn't have.
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- But i really woke up every morning in college asking
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- God to give me opportunities to share his goodness.
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- And it was a really awesome experience for me.
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- And i remember thinking, and i don't recommend anyone
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- Follow suit here, that because i'm young and i'm
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- Skewing the things of the world and following god at this age,
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- My life is going to go sort of perfectly up from here.
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- I didn't mean that in a worldly sense.
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- Just god would take me from glory to glory.
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- What i didn't realize is the glory.
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- The glory process is usually more like this.
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- And, for those of you who are listening,
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- My hands waving really high
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- And really low, and it seems like months later,
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- I was a counselor at a christian summer camp
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- When i started to develop symptoms,
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- Digestive
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- Symptoms, and a fever that ultimately developed
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- Into a diagnosis of crohn's disease or crohn's colitis.
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- And mind you, this was
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- Almost through.
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- I was 30 years ago where hardly anyone knew about this disease.
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- It's an embarrassing bowel disease
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- Where you're in the bathroom all day,
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- And in some cases, like mine, i became emaciated and weak.
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- It's a life threatening. it's.
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- And now you see it.
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- If you're watching a sporting event, there's three commercials
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- Or five for ulcerative colitis or crohn's disease medications.
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- Back then, it wasn't talked about.
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- But for me, i had such a severe case that i lost 80 pounds.
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- I was down to 104 pounds in a wheelchair.
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- My dad is a naturopathy doctor
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- And a chiropractor, so we had a healthy lifestyle
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- Until i went away to college and changed that a little bit.
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- And he had a lot of resources to help me on the natural side,
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- But i had to go the conventional route,
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- Had to go the medication route,
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- And i
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- Was on dangerous medications, and my doctors were telling me,
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- You can maybe have children,
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- But you have to be off this medication
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- And you can be on this medication. it's incurable.
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- And here i am, 19 years old, thinking,
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- What happened to god, having good plans for me to prosper
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- Me and not to harm me, to give me a future and a hope.
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- I kind of believed it was like a cold
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- Or a flu, that it was going to go away.
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- But that didn't happen.
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- And days turned into weeks.
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- Months. and i was ill for two years.
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- And when i say ill, no remission every day.
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- Constantly sick, feeling like i was
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- Getting surgery done on my gut without anesthesia.
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- People said to me, were you the press?
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- Were you suicidal?
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- I wasn't suicidal, but i also didn't want to live.
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- I wanted to be with god.
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- I went from being kind of the life of the party
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- To someone who,
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- When i went out of my home in a wheelchair,
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- People would be repulsed by, you know, maybe i had something
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- That they could catch or communicable.
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- I mean, it looked like someone with aids
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- Or what others would say, a holocaust survivor.
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- And an amazing thing happened during the midst of my illness.
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- Probably the worst part.
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- My eyes started to not work well because
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- I was losing so much muscle and so much vitality,
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- And a friend of mine was badgering me to come visit.
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- I didn't want anyone to see me, much less hang around.
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- But she came and she was reading the bible to me, and a verse
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- Popped out that became, at the time, my life.
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- Scripture. hebrews 11 one.
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- Faith is the substance of things
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- Hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
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- And i was sitting there with every good excuse in the book.
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- But i'm reading about faith,
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- And then i read without faith it is impossible to please god.
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- And i also knew that faith comes by hearing the word of god.
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- And then the toughest scripture
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- Of all for me faith without action or works is dead.
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- Now i'm living in my parents home, being taken
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- Care of like an infant had to drop out of college.
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- My whole life's turned upside down and
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- For me to walk from my bedroom to the bathroom,
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- I fainted a few times face down because my iron or ferritin
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- Level was zero.
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- Like there's corpses that have a better iron level than that.
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- And i'm thinking, what can i do?
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- What kind of action can i take that shows faith?
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- I mean, i'm sick, i'm broke, i'm busted, disgusted, whatever.
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- I'm a failure according to every measure of the world.
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- But something inside of me got me up in my boxer shorts
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- And my beard.
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- Not because it was fashionable, but because i couldn't
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- Have the strength to shave or afford to lose any blood.
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- I walked those seven steps and i called to
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- My mom to take my picture, and she came.
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- What's wrong? what's wrong?
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- I said, mom, please take my picture.
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- And she said, i don't want to take your picture.
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- It breaks my heart just to look at you.
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- And i said, mom, take the picture.
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- And she said, why do you insist?
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- Can't we wait until you're well?
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- And i said, mom,
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- You need to take this picture
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- Because the world's
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- Not going to believe what god's about to do in my life.
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- And i wish that everyone listening and watching thought
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- That i had this kind of faith the whole time.
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- It was fleeting. it was mustard seed size.
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- I fell in the water after walking on it,
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- But my mom took my picture with an old school camera.
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- And that photograph,
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- In that act of faith, didn't cause me to get
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- Well the next day or next week or next month.
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- But about a year later, i met a man by phone.
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- The 70th expert
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- I consulted with, seven zero
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- Went all over the world trying to get well,
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- And he said, jordan, if you will follow a diet
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- Based on the bible, you can be well.
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- And i had
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- I didn't get saved during my
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- Illness, but my relationship with god deepened in a sense.
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- Some of which was because
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- I was angry, some of which was because i was desperate.
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- But i got so much hope from what this man said,
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- Because earlier,
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- When i knew my illness was not a cold
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- Or a flu or going away in a week,
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- I made a commitment that if god would heal me
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- And i could help
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- Just one person overcome disease or better yet, avoid it,
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- Then this living hell will have all been worth it.
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- I realize how valuable your health is.
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- I was an immortal teenager.
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- Nothing could go wrong and i knew in my heart
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- And my spirit that whatever helped me,
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- I would help others with and praise god.
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- It was something that was
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- Teachable, reproducible, and only he could gain the glory.
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- Teachable, reproducible, and only he could gain the glory.
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- So it was still following god on that curve.
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- Oh yeah, definitely. i'm on the upswing right now.
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- That's a good thing.
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- But you have i mean, so you have really spent your adult life,
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- Understanding and helping other people understand
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- How what we eat impacts the whole of our life.
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- I know you've got some principles
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- That you share with that.
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- Can you give us an overview of kind of the shortcut on.
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- Absolutely. to somewhere before we. even get into food?
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- If you look at sort of
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- What god did in my life and i didn't mention this
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- Because it would be an entirely other program.
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- But years later, i went through a terminal cancer
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- Battle that god healed me from and it would have been
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- 15 years after.
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- And i tried not to be like the israelites, or
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- I should say, like the disciples
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- When they watched
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- 5000 men being fed
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- And they wondered how jesus was going to feed 4000,
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- I still still try to wrack my brain saying,
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- Is this the same story they tell?
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- But it seems like it's two different occasions.
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- So i, i use some of the faith i learned during that
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- Journey as well.
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- But what i would say before i talk about food is that
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- Forgiveness is absolutely critical.
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- I watched my grandmother die with bitterness
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- Because her
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- Sisters in their family were gunned down by the nazis
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- In poland. and i get it.
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- I can't imagine it.
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- I don't oh, i'm not able to have empathy.
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- But when i was explaining to her and trying to minister
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- To her at the end of life that this isn't what god did,
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- This is the result of a fallen world, etc., i realized how
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- Powerful that unforgiveness scenario is
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- And we were talking about, oh are you?
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- I was in an oh, are you conference?
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- And somebody said that
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- If you harbor unforgiveness towards
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- Somebody that turns to bitterness,
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- It's like drinking poison and expecting it to kill them.
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- And i quoted it so many times and sleep sleeps another one.
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- And i'm giving people
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- These freebies because health is more than eating.
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- I talk about,
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- I'll call it a positive mindset, but it's really, as a man
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- Thinks in his heart, so is he.
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- And out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
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- I see people saying that i have cancer or
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- My son is autistic or my sister's diabetic.
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- We use these terms as if we own these diseases
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- And i am very careful.
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- I learned this during the cancer battle
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- That life and death is in the power of the tongue.
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- And so i try to be very careful
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- What i say and what i watch and what i hear.
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- But that's really critical,
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- Because if i meet someone with cancer
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- And they talk about cancer
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- A thousand times a day and
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- Talk about being healed once, the odds are not good.
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- And so before we get into food, i want people to understand
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- Those areas are important.
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- I think exercise is incredibly important.
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- Sunshine is important.
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- These are all free
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- And these are therapies
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- That our ancestors engaged in without thinking twice
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- The diet stuff, you're going to step on some toes.
- 00:11:27.181 --> 00:11:30.284
- But i've talked about this many times.
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- I believe we should eat what god created for food.
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- I don't think that involves pork and shellfish.
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- I think the old testament is anything but old.
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- We were talking about scripture and how
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- Revelatory it is, no matter when it was written.
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- As revelatory today as it was yesterday,
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- The day before, and will be forever.
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- So i think god created us, and he knows what's best.
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- So i don't recommend eating pork and shellfish and squid
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- And eel and things like that.
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- I know those are delicacies and why wouldn't they be?
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- The world celebrates what god hates.
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- I think eating diets, sweeteners are bad.
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- I believe that that's now being more understood
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- Because when they came out, when we started,
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- This was back in the day with my great aunt, with her
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- Sweet and low on the strawberries,
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- But pink, yellow and blue packets.
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- They're not going to help you lose weight,
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- And they're made in a laboratory.
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- And i think god created good sweet things
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- Like honey and dates and fruit, etc..
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- Maple sirup.
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- And then i tell people to avoid processed
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- Vegetable oils or what's now being called seed oils in the,
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- Steak and shakes of the world.
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- It's amazing how
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- This is becoming commonplace, but those are the big three.
- 00:12:42.623 --> 00:12:46.093
- I do believe sugar is dangerous, but consuming sugar in
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- Its natural form is far better than something synthetic.
- 00:12:50.064 --> 00:12:53.868
- And there's there's more,
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- You know,
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- White flour where you take the nutrients out
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- And add things that don't belong.
- 00:12:57.638 --> 00:12:59.773
- But i believe we have to take
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- God at his word, but also understand our creation.
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- The bible is not a nutrition book,
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- But if you ask god to show you how to eat and live,
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- There's an outline there that i've tried to share
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- With people over the course of years.
- 00:13:16.590 --> 00:13:19.026
- And i've seen so many people set free.
- 00:13:19.026 --> 00:13:21.862
- There's a mutual friend we have, who's a legendary pastor here.
- 00:13:21.862 --> 00:13:26.467
- Don pinto is going to be 95, and he's one of the first people
- 00:13:26.467 --> 00:13:29.570
- Along with you that i sent my book.
- 00:13:29.570 --> 00:13:31.238
- And don is an amazing human being.
- 00:13:31.238 --> 00:13:33.574
- And the fact that he read it
- 00:13:33.574 --> 00:13:34.909
- In like one sitting and he said to me, jordan,
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- I've been following your plan for 20 years, but
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- I've learned new things, i've taken notes.
- 00:13:42.149 --> 00:13:44.018
- I'm so excited.
- 00:13:44.018 --> 00:13:45.286
- And i watch as he walks up his steep driveway and soon
- 00:13:45.286 --> 00:13:49.623
- To be 95 years old, and i say, that's a modern day caleb.
- 00:13:49.623 --> 00:13:52.726
- He's going to israel. he's going to the middle east.
- 00:13:52.726 --> 00:13:55.129
- He's arguably more effective for the kingdom today
- 00:13:55.129 --> 00:13:58.732
- Than he was when he was a pastor here at a big church.
- 00:13:58.732 --> 00:14:02.736
- And that's what i aspire to be.
- 00:14:02.736 --> 00:14:05.139
- And it isn't just about living long, it's
- 00:14:05.139 --> 00:14:08.609
- About living a life like moses or caleb, where
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- Towards the end of it,
- 00:14:12.846 --> 00:14:14.448
- They say they're as
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- Strong as they ever were.
- 00:14:15.716 --> 00:14:22.005
- Strong as they ever were.
- 00:14:22.005 --> 00:14:24.955
- You know, for full disclosure,
- 00:14:25.555 --> 00:14:28.358
- We bumped into one another casually at an event
- 00:14:28.358 --> 00:14:30.961
- Into the year,
- 00:14:30.961 --> 00:14:32.362
- And i made a comment to you
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- That i wanted to get a little healthier.
- 00:14:33.663 --> 00:14:35.899
- And you were very gracious to me to give me a little coaching.
- 00:14:35.899 --> 00:14:39.636
- And so i'm a few months into this,
- 00:14:39.636 --> 00:14:41.071
- And it really does make a difference.
- 00:14:41.071 --> 00:14:42.939
- And for those that
- 00:14:42.939 --> 00:14:44.040
- Listen to me very much, they know i'm a big advocate
- 00:14:44.040 --> 00:14:46.042
- For oreos and cheese doodles and all sorts of things.
- 00:14:46.042 --> 00:14:48.211
- That and you're, you have said to me many times,
- 00:14:48.211 --> 00:14:51.614
- No judgment here.
- 00:14:51.614 --> 00:14:52.749
- Well, pastor allen,
- 00:14:52.749 --> 00:14:53.850
- I almost reached out to you two weeks ago and said,
- 00:14:53.850 --> 00:14:55.852
- Your clothes are looking too big.
- 00:14:55.852 --> 00:14:57.821
- So congratulations. i've given
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- Health advice to a lot of people.
- 00:15:01.691 --> 00:15:02.993
- And you can imagine,
- 00:15:02.993 --> 00:15:04.361
- Like in your line of work, not everybody listens.
- 00:15:04.361 --> 00:15:07.464
- But you have done great.
- 00:15:07.464 --> 00:15:09.599
- And i trust that it's helping you do what you're called to do
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- More effectively.
- 00:15:13.937 --> 00:15:15.038
- Not everyone is called to share a message of health,
- 00:15:15.038 --> 00:15:17.340
- Just like not everyone is called to preach.
- 00:15:17.340 --> 00:15:19.009
- But i love to play a small role in that.
- 00:15:19.009 --> 00:15:22.312
- I had a good friend of mine
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- Who's a chiropractor and an evangelist a year
- 00:15:24.214 --> 00:15:27.584
- Younger than me, called me up a couple of months ago.
- 00:15:27.584 --> 00:15:31.054
- We had a great talk on a friday.
- 00:15:31.688 --> 00:15:33.890
- On a monday he called me with slurred speech, diagnosed
- 00:15:33.890 --> 00:15:37.193
- With glioblastoma, given maybe a year to live.
- 00:15:37.193 --> 00:15:41.064
- And, we rallied around him and he's like family to me.
- 00:15:41.064 --> 00:15:46.302
- And yesterday, after, i would say a relatively short
- 00:15:46.302 --> 00:15:50.206
- Time of prayer, of
- 00:15:50.206 --> 00:15:52.575
- Doing some of the things that
- 00:15:53.209 --> 00:15:54.277
- I've encouraged you to do that we talk about
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- In an upcoming book, the biblio diet.
- 00:15:56.513 --> 00:15:58.548
- I was at dinner yesterday when i got a text
- 00:15:58.548 --> 00:16:00.917
- That he had just visited an oncologist,
- 00:16:00.917 --> 00:16:02.752
- And he said, praise god, i'm cancer free, all caps.
- 00:16:02.752 --> 00:16:06.022
- And i started crying at the dinner table
- 00:16:06.022 --> 00:16:08.758
- And i don't cry much.
- 00:16:08.758 --> 00:16:09.826
- And my kids, some of them get sensitive to that.
- 00:16:09.826 --> 00:16:13.296
- But what an opportunity to see this.
- 00:16:13.296 --> 00:16:15.698
- This is someone who has has, since covid done 500
- 00:16:15.698 --> 00:16:20.336
- Zoom crusades to pakistan and to india and to africa.
- 00:16:20.336 --> 00:16:25.942
- And they set slaves free in the brick trade.
- 00:16:25.942 --> 00:16:29.746
- And he was stricken with something where i listened to
- 00:16:29.746 --> 00:16:32.482
- Some, recordings from dr.
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- Anderson, a top cancer clinic, flippantly saying that
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- There's an upper limit of seven years,
- 00:16:40.223 --> 00:16:42.292
- If you will do this, this and this,
- 00:16:42.292 --> 00:16:43.760
- And this is someone who's
- 00:16:43.760 --> 00:16:44.861
- 48 years old with his wife on and has four children.
- 00:16:44.861 --> 00:16:48.431
- And to be able to play a role
- 00:16:48.431 --> 00:16:51.301
- In someone's life like that, it's
- 00:16:51.301 --> 00:16:54.838
- The most exhilarating,
- 00:16:55.305 --> 00:16:56.573
- Exciting, best thing, best gift i could ever have.
- 00:16:56.573 --> 00:16:59.776
- And that's what i, i want to do.
- 00:16:59.776 --> 00:17:01.845
- Now, on the flip side,
- 00:17:01.845 --> 00:17:04.013
- Not every person turns out that way,
- 00:17:04.013 --> 00:17:06.916
- But i've seen much more often than not when people
- 00:17:06.916 --> 00:17:10.453
- Will follow god's plan in body, mind, and spirit,
- 00:17:10.453 --> 00:17:13.790
- They're going to be healed in a sense that they are going
- 00:17:13.790 --> 00:17:17.427
- To be much better than they ever could have been.
- 00:17:17.427 --> 00:17:20.597
- And we've seen so many miracles and,
- 00:17:20.597 --> 00:17:24.100
- It's it's just an awesome thing.
- 00:17:24.100 --> 00:17:26.202
- And we talked on a previous program
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- About this country being more conducive to
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- Caring for our health, to ending what is now an epidemic,
- 00:17:32.909 --> 00:17:36.613
- And autism spectrum disorders, which by the way, has mirrored
- 00:17:36.613 --> 00:17:39.883
- Inflammatory bowel disease, crohn's and ulcerative colitis.
- 00:17:39.883 --> 00:17:42.752
- I think it's increased a thousand fold.
- 00:17:42.752 --> 00:17:44.888
- No one admits that.
- 00:17:44.888 --> 00:17:45.955
- But somebody is going to admit it now
- 00:17:45.955 --> 00:17:47.323
- Because secretary kennedy, he's going to come out
- 00:17:47.323 --> 00:17:49.025
- With some things, folks, that are going to be astounding.
- 00:17:49.025 --> 00:17:52.095
- Cancer and heart disease, out of control, diabetes,
- 00:17:52.095 --> 00:17:55.565
- Our diabetes.
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- Financial
- 00:17:57.901 --> 00:17:59.002
- Ramifications are more than most nations entire budget.
- 00:17:59.002 --> 00:18:02.238
- And i think we're going to see some of this change quickly.
- 00:18:02.238 --> 00:18:07.043
- And i'd love to see the church be the catalyst.
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- Amen.
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- Amen.
- 00:18:17.001 --> 00:18:19.659
- I'm excited about your new project.
- 00:18:20.426 --> 00:18:21.994
- It's the biblio diet.
- 00:18:21.994 --> 00:18:23.062
- When is that going to be available?
- 00:18:23.062 --> 00:18:24.330
- It'll be august september timeline.
- 00:18:24.330 --> 00:18:26.265
- And, you were one of about ten who received our first,
- 00:18:26.265 --> 00:18:30.102
- Manuscript.
- 00:18:30.436 --> 00:18:31.504
- And i'm really excited about the truth that's coming.
- 00:18:31.504 --> 00:18:35.908
- And i do have a hidden agenda in that
- 00:18:35.908 --> 00:18:39.145
- I love that
- 00:18:39.145 --> 00:18:42.381
- Bobby kennedy is doing so much, and i love that
- 00:18:42.381 --> 00:18:44.684
- The trump administration is allowing it.
- 00:18:44.684 --> 00:18:46.185
- But health was not their idea. it's god's idea.
- 00:18:46.185 --> 00:18:48.921
- And i want people to say i am following the bible,
- 00:18:48.921 --> 00:18:52.425
- The name, the biblio diet, because biblio means book.
- 00:18:52.425 --> 00:18:55.761
- People don't realize that the bible
- 00:18:55.761 --> 00:18:58.231
- Is called the bible because it's the book.
- 00:18:58.231 --> 00:19:00.166
- It was really the tanakh and the heart of shaw.
- 00:19:00.166 --> 00:19:03.102
- But i want people to go around saying,
- 00:19:03.102 --> 00:19:05.838
- I'm following the biblio diet because years ago
- 00:19:05.838 --> 00:19:08.641
- People said they were following the paleo diet.
- 00:19:08.641 --> 00:19:10.843
- And i remember
- 00:19:10.843 --> 00:19:12.044
- I was talking to an amazing christian woman who asked me
- 00:19:12.044 --> 00:19:14.714
- To write the foreword to her health book, pastor's wife,
- 00:19:14.714 --> 00:19:17.116
- And she talked about the paleo diet.
- 00:19:17.116 --> 00:19:18.551
- And i said, please forgive me.
- 00:19:18.551 --> 00:19:20.052
- You're an amazing teacher.
- 00:19:20.052 --> 00:19:21.887
- And so wonderful, but i don't like the idea
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- Of promoting the paleo diet because it presupposes
- 00:19:24.590 --> 00:19:28.361
- That we were on the earth
- 00:19:28.361 --> 00:19:29.262
- For millions and billions of years,
- 00:19:29.262 --> 00:19:30.863
- And it's very evolutionary, and it's construct.
- 00:19:30.863 --> 00:19:33.499
- And so i said, instead of the paleo diet,
- 00:19:33.499 --> 00:19:35.735
- Let's talk about the biblio diet took me years to introduce it.
- 00:19:35.735 --> 00:19:39.739
- But the idea is by following the biblio diet,
- 00:19:39.739 --> 00:19:43.509
- You are eating by the book
- 00:19:43.509 --> 00:19:44.777
- And we say you can live long, master metabolism,
- 00:19:44.777 --> 00:19:47.647
- Fight depression, reduce pain, and conquer
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- Cancer with the healing secrets from the bible.
- 00:19:49.949 --> 00:19:53.052
- Well, i thank you for your persistent message.
- 00:19:53.052 --> 00:19:55.621
- You've made a difference in my life,
- 00:19:55.621 --> 00:19:57.523
- And i know you're making a difference
- 00:19:57.523 --> 00:19:58.891
- In millions of lives across the country,
- 00:19:58.891 --> 00:20:00.426
- So i very much appreciate it.
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- Thank you so much for having me, pastor.
- 00:20:01.927 --> 00:20:03.396
- You know the assignment.
- 00:20:03.396 --> 00:20:04.630
- I think god is in the midst of making america healthy again,
- 00:20:04.630 --> 00:20:07.700
- Fundamentally, spiritually healthy.
- 00:20:07.700 --> 00:20:10.036
- And if we all make those choices to cooperate with the truth
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- That we know, if you'll start with that truth,
- 00:20:12.672 --> 00:20:15.241
- With the simple biblical principles
- 00:20:15.241 --> 00:20:16.976
- That you already know, and you'll begin to practice them,
- 00:20:16.976 --> 00:20:20.146
- I believe that we'll become
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- Healthier emotionally, spiritually, physically,
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- And that that can change our nation.
- 00:20:24.617 --> 00:20:26.519
- It's not a political problem we have.
- 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:28.054
- It's a spiritual problem.
- 00:20:28.054 --> 00:20:29.388
- And jordan rubin, i thank you for your voice.
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- It's been great to be here. thank you so much for having me
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