Allen Jackson: April 21, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now

April 21, 2025 | S25:E421

Television is filled with dysfunction, and the world is drowning in it. Negativity has saturated people of all ages, fed by competition to the bottom on social media. What if someone new came along with a fresh operating principle? A person who has travelled the world, seen the worst of it but deals strictly with how to move forward. An honest and inspiring leader who has lived the full Christian life as a pastor and uses his wisdom to inspire others. Meet Allen Jackson.

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  • Well.
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  • Good evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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  • We're going to begin tonight with the border
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  • And the crime that it led to across our nation.
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  • It was the number one issue in the election.
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  • And cleaning up the mess has been the number
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  • One issue for the new trump administration.
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  • The progress.
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  • It's measurable.
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  • Migrant arrest at the border at a 50 year low.
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  • Last month, there were 230 daily apprehensions.
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  • If you compare that to a year ago,
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  • When there were over 5000 per day.
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  • But while the voters spoke so to some of the liberal judges
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  • That put up
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  • Whatever roadblocks they can to slow evictions down,
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  • And there's some local mayors who also think they know better
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  • As they continue to defend their sanctuary cities.
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  • And then there are the other troublemakers
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  • Who've come to stir up trouble on the college campuses.
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  • Mahmoud khalil authorities believe he poses a genuine
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  • Threat to u.s.
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  • Foreign policy, and they're in the process of deporting him.
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  • But if you've been to new york
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  • Harbor to see the statue of liberty
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  • In ellis island,
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  • Seeing the names of those who came here
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  • Between the late 1800s, in the 1950s, 40% of
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  • All americans can trace at least one ancestor to ellis island.
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  • Decades of organized immigration and 12 million
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  • People came to america.
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  • But in the last four years,
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  • When there was no wall and no organization.
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  • That same number of people wandered in.
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  • Not all of whom had the best intentions.
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  • There's one more fact.
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  • It says a lot.
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  • 84% of our population growth last year was legal
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  • And illegal immigrants 84%.
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  • Well, president trump said he would clean up the mess,
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  • Find the criminals first and arrest them,
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  • Shut down the drug labs, finished
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  • Building the wall and securing our border.
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  • Listen to his point, man.
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  • Tom homan.
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  • President trump, i give him all the credit
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  • Because he put executive actions in place day one.
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  • He he ran from the policies that we prove were effective.
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  • Right now as we speak today because of president trump,
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  • The men and women of ice and men and women,
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  • The border patrol who stand on that line every day.
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  • Today, we have the most secure border
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  • In the history of this nation.
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  • No one can argue that that is fair enough.
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  • I started in 1984. i've never seen the numbers as low.
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  • Well, it's a big job ahead.
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  • So we've asked the former chief of the u.s.
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  • Border patrol to join us again.
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  • In fact, he's speaking to us today
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  • From the headquarters
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  • Of the us immigration and border patrol, rod vitiello.
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  • Welcome back.
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  • Thanks for inviting me.
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  • You're advising the border officials now?
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  • Homan and kristi noem have already made a lot of progress.
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  • What's your opinion on how they're doing?
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  • Oh. it's great.
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  • It's great to have good leadership again.
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  • It's great
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  • To have donald trump in the white house,
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  • Because he knows how important it is to secure our border.
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  • He knows the men and women of the front line at dhs,
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  • Has given them the tools, including the leadership and,
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  • You know, to succeed.
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  • And so the executive actions, adherence to the rule of law,
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  • Securing the border in a way that i've, like tom said,
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  • I've never seen in my history with this, border
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  • Security and immigration enforcement,
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  • The numbers are down significantly.
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  • There's a lot to do.
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  • But there are 10,000 troops helping us
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  • On the southwest border from the department of defense.
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  • And the interagency interaction and activity
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  • And operations, is as seamless as i've ever seen.
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  • And in fact, i've never seen it as seamless as it is now.
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  • That's the state department, the,
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  • Health and human services, the treasury department,
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  • The department of justice.
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  • It's just incredible how well these agencies
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  • Have come together to exercise the leadership.
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  • That that's been allowed for by the, by the president.
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  • Well, that's an encouraging commentary.
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  • There's a case that's getting a lot of attention now.
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  • It's a maryland man
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  • Who at first was believed to be wrongly arrested and deported.
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  • But now we've learned that he was clearly part
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  • Of one of the gangs, that he beat his wife.
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  • He never showed up in court for other arrest.
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  • But we're seeing democrats trying to turn him into exhibit
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  • A is a part of their anti-trump, anti-conservative agenda.
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  • What can you tell us about this?
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  • Well, i can tell
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  • You that the individual was in the country illegally.
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  • Was a known gang member of the ms13,
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  • Had gone through immigration proceedings.
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  • And was ordered removed by a judge, ordered deported
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  • By a judge, and then was removed recently.
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  • And there's been a lot
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  • In the media about it, and this is what i can say.
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  • He had an opportunity to claim asylum in the united states.
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  • He lost that opportunity because of his gang affiliation.
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  • He was removed.
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  • And now the culture of the left.
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  • Academia, media, etc..
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  • We know the players have tried to convince the united states,
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  • Public that it's it's not a problem for people
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  • To come into the country illegally.
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  • Well, it is a problem.
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  • And some of them engage in some of the people
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  • Who come engage in criminal activity.
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  • This person is clearly in that category.
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  • And so besides being in the country illegally,
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  • Besides being affiliated, with gang activity,
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  • The president declared ms13 his gang,
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  • A foreign terrorist organization.
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  • So that gives the executive branch
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  • And law enforcement additional tools
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  • To find and remove people like him.
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  • And that's what happened in this case.
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  • You know, we've heard the names of some of these gangs.
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  • Ms13 trend, arugula, the pcc from brazil.
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  • I've heard from other border security folks
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  • That one of the things that's helping to reduce
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  • The influx is the prison video that's been spread globally,
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  • Showing the ones who've been captured
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  • Head shaved,
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  • Shackled at the maximum security prison in el salvador.
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  • Do you think those in other countries
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  • Are having second thoughts when they see that video?
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  • 100%.
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  • We know, you know, people that do what i have done for
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  • My almost my entire adult life know that consequences matter.
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  • If people can commit crimes and not be held accountable,
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  • They're going to do that and they're
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  • Going to commit more of them.
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  • But when there is a consequence,
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  • Like being removed from the country
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  • Or being sent back to a prison in el salvador,
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  • People will take notice of that and you'll get less of this
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  • Illegal activity.
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  • You'll get less of this bad behavior.
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  • You'll get a more secure border and a more secure homeland.
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  • Well, ron, please stay with us for another segment.
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  • There's a lot to unpack.
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  • Later in the program, i'll be sharing my thoughts on
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  • How we can see
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  • These important issues of our day
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  • Through the lens of the bible,
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  • Where there are some very clear reasons for hope.
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  • They're there when you know how to look.
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  • And i'll show you.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll we're back now with the former chief of the u.s.
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  • Border patrol.
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  • And he's now their advisor, ron vitiello.
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  • The mayor of boston has been pushing back on efforts
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  • To clean up her city.
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  • She claims that by protecting migrants,
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  • She's enhancing public safety
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  • And the well-being of the community.
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  • Listen to her comments.
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  • Our local community knows best, and we can tell you in boston
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  • Over our history,
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  • It has not been the word of presidents or kings
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  • Or presidents who think they are kings.
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  • That's that. what happens. it is our residents.
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  • Well, mayor wu hasn't said anything
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  • About the ice operation that arrested ms13 gang members
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  • With rape charges, the drug trafficking and homicide.
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  • She has an election coming up this november,
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  • So i can't figure out who she thinks she's appealing to.
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  • Regardless of how liberal boston might be.
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  • What's your perspective on that?
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  • Well, it's a destructive policy to tell your own citizens
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  • And the rest of the world, frankly,
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  • That if you are in the country
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  • Illegally and you go on to commit crimes
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  • In the city of boston in this case,
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  • That we're not going to help the government
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  • Adjudicate your immigration status.
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  • It's destructive to the people who live in boston.
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  • It sends the wrong signal overseas.
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  • And it flouts federal immigration law.
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  • And so she took an oath, to secure the city,
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  • To preserve the rights of the citizens of boston.
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  • And i think she's whistling past the graveyard.
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  • She thinks it's good for sex offenders and murderers
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  • And gang members to be shielded from ice,
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  • After they've committed crimes in her city.
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  • What we know
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  • About criminal activity is that a lot of crime is done
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  • By the same people.
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  • Recidivism in criminal justice is well measured,
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  • And most of the people who commit crimes
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  • Will go on to commit other crimes.
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  • And so when someone gets arrested and convicted in boston
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  • And then released without being adjudicated
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  • On their immigration status,
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  • That means they're going to go out and pray
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  • Against the citizens of boston again.
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  • And so it's very shortsighted.
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  • It's destructive.
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  • And hopefully the justice department
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  • Is taking this on in a meaningful way.
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  • And we'll show the american people
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  • That it's illegal to do what she's doing.
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  • Well, it seems to me we've tolerated this idea
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  • Of sanctuary cities for too long.
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  • If you reject federal law.
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  • I don't understand why you think
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  • You should get federal dollars.
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  • Am i missing something in that connection?
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  • No, that's absolutely the case.
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  • And so those kinds of steps are going to be taken
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  • From the justice department.
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  • And it certainly is true in public opinion,
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  • That the people are in the country illegally
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  • And if committed crimes in the city in which they live,
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  • Need to be removed
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  • And not cooperating with federal authorities.
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  • In that case, is a detriment to that community.
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  • Well, in addition to the politicians
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  • Who are pushing back,
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  • There's some progressive judges putting up roadblocks
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  • To deporting even the worst criminals.
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  • Do you think congress will be able
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  • To limit their scope in time to save more lives?
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  • Well, i certainly hope that they do.
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  • What i can say is that all of the
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  • The tools that have been given by either the executive order,
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  • Or the additions to the operation
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  • And the capability, like using soldiers
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  • On the border,
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  • Like having more prosecutions of people who invade the border.
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  • Anyway, having those rules and having that capability
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  • Is all based in current u.s. law.
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  • And so the president is very enthusiastic about
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  • Securing america, the homeland, making america safe again.
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  • But all of that we've done so far is based in u.s. law.
  • 00:10:12.137 --> 00:10:15.207
  • And so we're going to continue to do that.
  • 00:10:15.207 --> 00:10:17.676
  • The courts have gotten in the way.
  • 00:10:17.676 --> 00:10:20.279
  • But i think they're out stretching their jurisdiction.
  • 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.282
  • And we need congress to do many things.
  • 00:10:23.282 --> 00:10:25.617
  • We need to be able to sustain the policies that the president
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  • Pushed the button on and gave those tools to the
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  • To the to dhs.
  • 00:10:30.789 --> 00:10:32.257
  • We need to give that a sustainable, situation
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  • As it relates to the law and then the resources,
  • 00:10:35.260 --> 00:10:37.429
  • Of course, in the reconciliation bill and in future budgets
  • 00:10:37.429 --> 00:10:40.899
  • So that we can sustain the levels of control at the border
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  • And enforce the immigration law, especially against the, the,
  • 00:10:44.069 --> 00:10:47.272
  • The criminals that are in and amongst our society.
  • 00:10:47.272 --> 00:10:50.209
  • Well, the border police went from having no support
  • 00:10:51.243 --> 00:10:54.213
  • To having not just support
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  • But top officials flying down to thank them.
  • 00:10:55.614 --> 00:10:58.550
  • I assume that makes a big difference,
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  • Especially when you're trying to recruit more help.
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  • 100%.
  • 00:11:03.922 --> 00:11:05.390
  • The chief has stated publicly that morale is through the roof.
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  • And i see it every other day.
  • 00:11:09.495 --> 00:11:11.263
  • My current and former colleagues,
  • 00:11:11.263 --> 00:11:13.265
  • We all have a pep in our step
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  • In the sense that we have good leadership.
  • 00:11:14.900 --> 00:11:17.269
  • We have someone in the oval office that has our back.
  • 00:11:17.269 --> 00:11:20.072
  • And we're allowed to use the tools that exist,
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  • To do what we signed up for. what?
  • 00:11:23.075 --> 00:11:24.576
  • We took an oath for,
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  • To secure the border and make america safe again.
  • 00:11:25.911 --> 00:11:29.248
  • Well, i know you've been apprehensive
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  • Publicly about whether congress is going to step up
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  • And give the border teams more of what they need.
  • 00:11:32.885 --> 00:11:35.621
  • But you've been pretty bullish on what mexico and canada
  • 00:11:35.621 --> 00:11:38.123
  • Have done since trump took over and started pushing them.
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  • What can you add to that today?
  • 00:11:41.560 --> 00:11:43.529
  • Well, i think it's a
  • 00:11:43.996 --> 00:11:44.997
  • Masterful stroke of foreign policy where the
  • 00:11:44.997 --> 00:11:46.899
  • Where the president indicated that our,
  • 00:11:46.899 --> 00:11:49.268
  • Our number one and two trading partners
  • 00:11:49.268 --> 00:11:51.303
  • Could be subject to tariffs if they didn't help us
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  • In specific ways with security and safety on our borders.
  • 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:57.342
  • The precursors being smuggled
  • 00:11:57.342 --> 00:11:58.844
  • Into both countries to make fentanyl
  • 00:11:58.844 --> 00:12:01.079
  • And fentanyl coming across those borders.
  • 00:12:01.079 --> 00:12:02.848
  • And so both countries have responded in a way that,
  • 00:12:02.848 --> 00:12:05.918
  • Is unfamiliar to me.
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  • In my experience
  • 00:12:07.820 --> 00:12:09.288
  • As a border patrol agent, as a chief of the border patrol.
  • 00:12:09.288 --> 00:12:13.258
  • But very welcome to see 10,000 troops on
  • 00:12:13.258 --> 00:12:15.928
  • The mexican side of the border helping protect their territory.
  • 00:12:15.928 --> 00:12:19.464
  • Working directly with our military,
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  • Both in-country and at the border.
  • 00:12:21.533 --> 00:12:23.535
  • And then canada has leaned in as well, with additional assets
  • 00:12:23.535 --> 00:12:26.839
  • And security measures on their northern border,
  • 00:12:26.839 --> 00:12:29.041
  • Appointing their own, czar to look at the fentanyl problem
  • 00:12:29.041 --> 00:12:32.911
  • From both the demand, and the illicit, contraband side.
  • 00:12:32.911 --> 00:12:36.615
  • Well, you know, we've all watched as boston
  • 00:12:37.516 --> 00:12:39.952
  • And denver have really resisted your efforts
  • 00:12:39.952 --> 00:12:42.654
  • Beyond those two cities.
  • 00:12:42.654 --> 00:12:43.956
  • How's the rest of the nation doing?
  • 00:12:43.956 --> 00:12:46.191
  • Well, i think it's a case by case basis.
  • 00:12:46.191 --> 00:12:48.126
  • I think the needle is moving in the direction of rule of law
  • 00:12:48.126 --> 00:12:52.097
  • And not flouting federal immigration law.
  • 00:12:52.097 --> 00:12:54.666
  • But there's a lot to be done.
  • 00:12:54.666 --> 00:12:55.767
  • And again,
  • 00:12:55.767 --> 00:12:56.835
  • When we talk about congress, when we talk about,
  • 00:12:56.835 --> 00:12:58.837
  • You know, using the courts to favor american citizens,
  • 00:12:58.837 --> 00:13:02.774
  • I think that picture will become better over time.
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  • And we're happy to have
  • 00:13:05.911 --> 00:13:06.979
  • The help, record, signups for the 287 g program
  • 00:13:06.979 --> 00:13:11.149
  • In our colleagues, at the headquarters at ice.
  • 00:13:11.149 --> 00:13:14.419
  • That's an important tool that local law enforcement can use,
  • 00:13:14.419 --> 00:13:17.856
  • To be assisted with and for and by the government.
  • 00:13:17.856 --> 00:13:21.059
  • And we're seeing that in record numbers.
  • 00:13:21.059 --> 00:13:23.829
  • And we know that a lot of the sheriffs coalitions,
  • 00:13:23.829 --> 00:13:26.899
  • Both along the border
  • 00:13:26.899 --> 00:13:27.866
  • And in the interior of the united states,
  • 00:13:27.866 --> 00:13:29.835
  • Are also leaning in on that program
  • 00:13:29.835 --> 00:13:31.403
  • So that picture is getting better.
  • 00:13:31.403 --> 00:13:33.538
  • But again, more to do and sustainable over the long term.
  • 00:13:33.538 --> 00:13:37.609
  • Ron, i know those issues are important
  • 00:13:37.609 --> 00:13:39.211
  • To the american public.
  • 00:13:39.211 --> 00:13:40.112
  • And because of that,
  • 00:13:40.112 --> 00:13:41.280
  • It gets a lot of attention on the news, both pro and con.
  • 00:13:41.280 --> 00:13:44.816
  • But i'm curious, just on a basis of the number of illegals
  • 00:13:44.816 --> 00:13:47.653
  • That were here.
  • 00:13:47.653 --> 00:13:48.787
  • What's the percentage that have actually been deported?
  • 00:13:48.787 --> 00:13:51.189
  • It seems like it's just we barely scratched the surface.
  • 00:13:51.189 --> 00:13:54.159
  • Well, i think that's right.
  • 00:13:54.760 --> 00:13:55.727
  • You know,
  • 00:13:55.727 --> 00:13:56.828
  • There's degrees about how many people what we know
  • 00:13:56.828 --> 00:13:59.264
  • In the last four years under joe biden, about 12 to
  • 00:13:59.264 --> 00:14:02.467
  • 15 million people entered the country.
  • 00:14:02.467 --> 00:14:05.504
  • Some of them not being seen at all by law enforcement,
  • 00:14:05.504 --> 00:14:07.873
  • Many of them being released at the border.
  • 00:14:07.873 --> 00:14:09.975
  • And so the pendulum is swinging back.
  • 00:14:09.975 --> 00:14:13.345
  • And some people see that as coming back to the middle.
  • 00:14:13.345 --> 00:14:15.480
  • Some people say that's coming back to the right.
  • 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.382
  • What i can tell you is
  • 00:14:17.382 --> 00:14:18.617
  • All that swing is all based on the rule of law.
  • 00:14:18.617 --> 00:14:21.086
  • It is a reaction to what happened in the last four years,
  • 00:14:21.086 --> 00:14:24.356
  • Because we're all at great risk for the number of people
  • 00:14:24.356 --> 00:14:26.458
  • That are here
  • 00:14:26.458 --> 00:14:27.659
  • That have never been vetted or seen by law enforcement.
  • 00:14:27.659 --> 00:14:29.828
  • And we know they've done terrible things
  • 00:14:29.828 --> 00:14:31.330
  • To american citizens all over the country.
  • 00:14:31.330 --> 00:14:33.732
  • So that nonsense is over.
  • 00:14:33.732 --> 00:14:35.968
  • And the removals for at large arrests.
  • 00:14:35.968 --> 00:14:38.337
  • That's ice anterior arrests of the worst of the worst
  • 00:14:38.337 --> 00:14:40.973
  • Criminals in our cities and towns
  • 00:14:40.973 --> 00:14:42.874
  • Is higher than it's ever been in the last ten years.
  • 00:14:42.874 --> 00:14:45.677
  • Record low activity levels at the southwest border.
  • 00:14:46.712 --> 00:14:50.115
  • And so the picture is improving
  • 00:14:50.115 --> 00:14:51.917
  • As it relates to the risks that we're tolerating,
  • 00:14:51.917 --> 00:14:54.553
  • Both at the border and in the interior.
  • 00:14:54.553 --> 00:14:56.655
  • And continued work and scaling
  • 00:14:56.655 --> 00:14:58.357
  • That work in the interior will make us all safer.
  • 00:14:58.357 --> 00:15:01.393
  • Well, ron vitello, i thank you for the work
  • 00:15:02.294 --> 00:15:04.363
  • You're doing to help all of us stay safer.
  • 00:15:04.363 --> 00:15:06.732
  • I hope you come back and give us an update soon.
  • 00:15:06.732 --> 00:15:09.334
  • Happy to do it. thank you.
  • 00:15:09.334 --> 00:15:11.069
  • Well, in a moment, i'll be back with some thoughts
  • 00:15:11.069 --> 00:15:13.005
  • Of my own on where we can find some hope.
  • 00:15:13.005 --> 00:15:15.407
  • In the midst of all the confusion.
  • 00:15:15.407 --> 00:15:23.009
  • In the midst of all the confusion.
  • 00:15:23.009 --> 00:15:29.287
  • You know,
  • 00:15:29.588 --> 00:15:30.188
  • I've used this reference
  • 00:15:30.188 --> 00:15:31.156
  • Before regarding the theater of the absurd.
  • 00:15:31.156 --> 00:15:33.925
  • We've watched lots of releases from the theater of the absurd
  • 00:15:33.925 --> 00:15:37.195
  • And the hits. they just keep coming.
  • 00:15:37.195 --> 00:15:39.331
  • And without a biblical worldview.
  • 00:15:39.331 --> 00:15:41.199
  • It is beyond confusing.
  • 00:15:41.199 --> 00:15:43.335
  • Now, when i see the news, i have to step back and ask,
  • 00:15:43.335 --> 00:15:46.204
  • Does that really make sense?
  • 00:15:46.204 --> 00:15:47.572
  • Should i really be frightened?
  • 00:15:47.572 --> 00:15:49.041
  • Should i really be agitated?
  • 00:15:49.041 --> 00:15:50.442
  • What's the right response?
  • 00:15:50.442 --> 00:15:52.310
  • Well, run! release from the theater of the absurd.
  • 00:15:52.310 --> 00:15:54.179
  • That seems to be front and center, as it did
  • 00:15:54.179 --> 00:15:56.481
  • With the illegal aliens in our nation.
  • 00:15:56.481 --> 00:15:58.850
  • Those trespassers who came here without permission
  • 00:15:58.850 --> 00:16:01.553
  • Against the law from all over the world.
  • 00:16:01.553 --> 00:16:04.589
  • The current administration campaigned upon the promise
  • 00:16:04.589 --> 00:16:06.925
  • To remove those that were violent criminals.
  • 00:16:06.925 --> 00:16:10.729
  • There's a group that celebrates that.
  • 00:16:10.729 --> 00:16:12.497
  • And then there's another group that's really upset about it.
  • 00:16:12.497 --> 00:16:15.267
  • Federal judges get involved and say, you can't do this.
  • 00:16:15.267 --> 00:16:18.503
  • Lots of drama.
  • 00:16:18.503 --> 00:16:20.138
  • Well, i want to offer some perspective.
  • 00:16:20.138 --> 00:16:22.107
  • Tens of thousands of people have been deported,
  • 00:16:22.107 --> 00:16:24.376
  • Including violent gang members,
  • 00:16:24.376 --> 00:16:26.511
  • People that have committed some horrific crimes.
  • 00:16:26.511 --> 00:16:29.181
  • But if you compare that to the 20 million folks
  • 00:16:29.181 --> 00:16:31.483
  • That came in illegally during the last administration,
  • 00:16:31.483 --> 00:16:34.319
  • The number deported reflects less than what was coming
  • 00:16:34.319 --> 00:16:36.855
  • Across the border on a weekly basis.
  • 00:16:36.855 --> 00:16:39.758
  • Based on the news headlines you would think
  • 00:16:39.758 --> 00:16:41.460
  • The majority of the population has been moved.
  • 00:16:41.460 --> 00:16:44.596
  • We have court cases and federal judges and restraining
  • 00:16:44.596 --> 00:16:46.965
  • Orders and mayors of major cities refusing to cooperate.
  • 00:16:46.965 --> 00:16:50.268
  • Governors using their power to resist.
  • 00:16:50.268 --> 00:16:53.338
  • Where were the federal judges and their restraining orders
  • 00:16:53.338 --> 00:16:55.807
  • When there were flights bringing people
  • 00:16:55.807 --> 00:16:57.342
  • Illegally into our country?
  • 00:16:57.342 --> 00:16:59.111
  • All paid for by our government.
  • 00:16:59.111 --> 00:17:01.313
  • Where was the concern for the citizens of our nation?
  • 00:17:01.313 --> 00:17:03.982
  • Where was the concern for the hundreds
  • 00:17:03.982 --> 00:17:05.450
  • Of thousands of children that have just disappeared?
  • 00:17:05.450 --> 00:17:08.687
  • Where's the concern for the children
  • 00:17:08.687 --> 00:17:10.255
  • Of our own communities with overburdened systems
  • 00:17:10.255 --> 00:17:12.891
  • Where education
  • 00:17:12.891 --> 00:17:13.625
  • And health care
  • 00:17:13.625 --> 00:17:14.259
  • Have been affected by the
  • 00:17:14.259 --> 00:17:15.193
  • Sudden influx of 20 million plus people?
  • 00:17:15.193 --> 00:17:18.330
  • We're not anti-immigration.
  • 00:17:18.330 --> 00:17:19.698
  • We're a nation of immigrants.
  • 00:17:19.698 --> 00:17:21.233
  • We are anti illegal.
  • 00:17:21.233 --> 00:17:23.201
  • Then i am very grateful for the return to the rule of law.
  • 00:17:23.201 --> 00:17:26.938
  • We're making progress.
  • 00:17:26.938 --> 00:17:28.507
  • There are truly more reasons for hope than despair.
  • 00:17:28.507 --> 00:17:31.710
  • I promise
  • 00:17:31.710 --> 00:17:33.345
  • When we return, i'm going to read some of your emails
  • 00:17:33.345 --> 00:17:36.214
  • And respond to your opinions.
  • 00:17:36.214 --> 00:17:38.016
  • God's moving. it's fun to watch.
  • 00:17:38.016 --> 00:17:47.005
  • God's moving. it's fun to watch.
  • 00:17:47.005 --> 00:17:52.899
  • Thank you for your emails,
  • 00:17:53.466 --> 00:17:54.867
  • Your thoughts, and your perspectives.
  • 00:17:54.867 --> 00:17:57.003
  • They're always a highlight.
  • 00:17:57.003 --> 00:17:59.038
  • Joyce emailed your guest, george
  • 00:17:59.038 --> 00:18:00.940
  • C said he would rather have president trump
  • 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:02.675
  • Take on the trade
  • 00:18:02.675 --> 00:18:03.476
  • Deficit behind the scenes,
  • 00:18:03.476 --> 00:18:05.211
  • So the stock market wouldn't have reacted the way it did.
  • 00:18:05.211 --> 00:18:07.980
  • Well, i disagree that president trump
  • 00:18:07.980 --> 00:18:09.348
  • Did anything behind the scenes.
  • 00:18:09.348 --> 00:18:10.917
  • The democrats and liberal mainstream
  • 00:18:10.917 --> 00:18:12.385
  • Media would have used it to rip him apart.
  • 00:18:12.385 --> 00:18:15.188
  • Well, joyce, i'm inclined to agree with you.
  • 00:18:15.188 --> 00:18:17.557
  • I think george's opinions on tariffs were a bit premature.
  • 00:18:17.557 --> 00:18:21.027
  • It seems to be bringing the outcomes
  • 00:18:21.027 --> 00:18:22.895
  • That the president said they would.
  • 00:18:22.895 --> 00:18:24.430
  • Keep praying.
  • 00:18:24.430 --> 00:18:26.165
  • Karen h emailed.
  • 00:18:26.165 --> 00:18:27.400
  • Christians should be alarmed and on guard.
  • 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.802
  • Thank you for your straightforward
  • 00:18:29.802 --> 00:18:31.237
  • Truth and biblical perspective. we need it.
  • 00:18:31.237 --> 00:18:34.040
  • We should have a sense of moral outrage
  • 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:35.808
  • As to what's right and wrong and good versus evil.
  • 00:18:35.808 --> 00:18:38.411
  • Keep up the good work.
  • 00:18:38.411 --> 00:18:40.546
  • I believe you're right.
  • 00:18:40.546 --> 00:18:41.514
  • I think we've been asleep for too long.
  • 00:18:41.514 --> 00:18:43.216
  • We've been dormant or indifferent or lukewarm.
  • 00:18:43.216 --> 00:18:46.686
  • Or maybe we just didn't have the courage to speak the truth.
  • 00:18:46.686 --> 00:18:49.855
  • But i believe there is an awakening taking place.
  • 00:18:49.855 --> 00:18:53.226
  • We're finding the courage to speak the truth
  • 00:18:53.226 --> 00:18:55.661
  • Around our kitchen tables,
  • 00:18:55.661 --> 00:18:56.963
  • Our holiday tables, and even with our friends.
  • 00:18:56.963 --> 00:18:59.232
  • If we'll do that, there's a better future for our children.
  • 00:18:59.232 --> 00:19:02.702
  • And finally, if you viewer on youtube,
  • 00:19:03.536 --> 00:19:05.905
  • Watch the episode with allie beth stuckey
  • 00:19:05.905 --> 00:19:08.407
  • And she commented, pastor jackson, i'm a ministry partner
  • 00:19:08.407 --> 00:19:11.477
  • And i love this program.
  • 00:19:11.477 --> 00:19:12.645
  • Thanks for having allie on.
  • 00:19:12.645 --> 00:19:13.846
  • It was an amazing to be at the culture
  • 00:19:13.846 --> 00:19:15.381
  • And christianity conference.
  • 00:19:15.381 --> 00:19:17.016
  • I can't wait to go in 2025.
  • 00:19:17.016 --> 00:19:20.019
  • Well, let me invite you to our version this year.
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  • It's in september.
  • 00:19:22.188 --> 00:19:23.356
  • This year we'll be gathering here in murfreesboro again
  • 00:19:23.356 --> 00:19:26.225
  • With some of the leading voices in our nation
  • 00:19:26.225 --> 00:19:28.094
  • To talk about culture and christianity.
  • 00:19:28.094 --> 00:19:30.563
  • God is moving in the earth,
  • 00:19:30.563 --> 00:19:31.897
  • And it's exciting to get to be a part of that.
  • 00:19:31.897 --> 00:19:34.600
  • We are very much in the process
  • 00:19:34.600 --> 00:19:36.168
  • Of building a community of trust,
  • 00:19:36.168 --> 00:19:38.638
  • And we would love to have as many people
  • 00:19:38.638 --> 00:19:40.273
  • As possible involved.
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