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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: April 24, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now | April 24, 2025
- Well.
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- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- The war in ukraine is still being fought
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- More than three years after the russian invasion.
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- Much of the world condemned the invasion,
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- And some countries put sanctions on russia.
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- But the fighting continues.
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- President trump has tried to bring peace.
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- Working with the leaders of both countries.
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- But despite the huge death toll and massive spending,
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- Vladimir putin and president zelensky are still dug in.
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- Trust is missing.
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- Families have lost sons and fathers.
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- The destruction is widespread.
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- Russia is getting help from enemies of the u.s.
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- And the u.s., and some european countries are helping ukraine.
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- But in the end, russia
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- Has a much larger population to draw on.
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- 144 million russians and fewer than 39 million in ukraine.
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- But even with all the attention
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- To the war, most of us still don't know much about ukraine.
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- So tonight, we're going to hear from the
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- Honorable gregory slayton, the former u.s.
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- Diplomat and recipient of the congressional
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- Distinguished foreign service award.
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- He spent the last several years putting together
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- A fascinating book called portraits of ukraine.
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- Ambassador slayton, welcome to our show.
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- Thank you.
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- Alan, it's a real pleasure to be here with you.
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- Well, it's a fascinating book.
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- You've pointed out that all the profits from
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- The book are going to charities in ukraine.
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- So maybe we begin by telling us
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- Why you chose to take on this effort.
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- Well, thank you very much, alan.
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- You know, we feel very strongly about freedom, democracy
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- And the rule of law.
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- Now, every country has problems.
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- Our country has problems.
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- Ukraine has problems, for sure.
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- But at least it's a country that,
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- Since it became independent from the soviet union
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- Back over 30 years
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- Ago, has really been moving more and more closely
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- To the aid, freedom, democracy and the rule of law.
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- Let's make no bones about it.
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- It was attacked.
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- It wasn't.
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- This wasn't a nato attack on russia.
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- This wasn't a ukrainian attack.
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- And i speak from someone who's been in ukraine
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- Probably 30 times in the last few years.
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- This was a russian attack because vladimir putin,
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- As he said many
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- Times, wants to reestablish what was effectively
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- The territory of the soviet union.
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- We didn't feel good about that.
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- I know many americans share that feeling.
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- And so we
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- Saw an opportunity both to help and we,
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- In conjunction with a number of other really good,
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- Christian charities, have helped deliver over 16 million
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- Pounds of relief supplies to the war zones
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- Of southern and, eastern ukraine.
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- And then we saw an opportunity to write this book,
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- Both to help our fellow
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- Americans understand the situation, the history,
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- The culture, the language, the war itself better.
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- And to benefit ukrainian charities.
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- And that's what we've done.
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- Well, getting a peace deal is clearly a lot more difficult
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- To get signed than anyone thought it would be.
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- Ukraine's ambassador to the united states
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- That his country will not be reabsorbed
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- Into a resurrected russian empire under putin.
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- What is it that putin's looking for?
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- And maybe zelensky as well?
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- Well, i think putin is looking for
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- A resurrected russian empire and, you know, don't trust me.
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- Just look at what he's continued to say many, many times
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- Since he became dictator over 25 years ago.
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- He said the the greatest
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- Disaster of the 20th century was the dissolution
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- Of the soviet empire.
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- He sees himself and he said this.
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- He sees himself as peter the great.
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- And, and,
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- You know, he's
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- Trying to resurrect what was the great russian empire.
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- And it's not just people
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- Sometimes think, oh, just ukraine.
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- No, no, no, not at all.
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- He's been undermining,
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- Undermining the government of georgia.
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- He's been in undermining the government of moldova.
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- He's basically taken over belarus when the belarus
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- President lost a free and fair election a few years ago.
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- Putin sent troops in, and, many were killed.
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- And and and that president, that dictator is still there,
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- But he's basically putin's lapdog.
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- That's what they were hoping to do in ukraine.
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- It hasn't worked.
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- Well, give us a taste of the great natural resources
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- That ukraine has
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- And what products and countries they support throughout
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- The world.
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- Yes. well, first of all, as many of you as many folks
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- Know, ukraine is one of the greatest,
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- Grain producing nations in the world.
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- It used to be called europe's breadbasket.
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- And in many ways, it still is.
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- But now, prior to the war, it really is africa's breadbasket.
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- So a lot of our u.s.
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- Government programs like world food program, yes, of course,
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- We get it from american farmers.
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- But sometimes when it's not available,
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- That grain comes from ukraine.
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- Not just grain, but metals and raw materials.
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- Now, russia
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- Also is a very rich nation, obviously, in many ways.
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- And by the way, i want to say something good
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- About the russian people.
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- There are a lot of wonderful russian people.
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- They have a dictator and is one of our founding fathers.
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- Wisely said,
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- Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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- Vladimir putin has been absolute dictator
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- Of russia for over 25 years.
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- Well, president trump is working on a deal
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- Where the united states would collect
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- Some of ukraine's mineral resources in exchange
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- For keeping the peace on the ground.
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- The u.s.
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- May also agree
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- To protect the nuclear plants for obvious reasons.
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- But he's turning up the pressure
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- After the first few attempts in an agreement failed.
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- He also seems to be quite concerned
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- About the number of people who have died there.
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- Listen to how he put it.
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- It is brutal.
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- 2500 young people a week, some of them not so young,
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- Actually. they're getting older.
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- They're getting older by the month, but,
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- 2500 a week and we're going to get it stopped, ideally.
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- Now, if for some reason, one of the two parties makes it
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- Very difficult.
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- We're just going to say you're foolish, you're fools, you're
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- Horrible people, and we're going to just take a pass.
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- You know,
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- Zelenskyy is now blaming putin for a 30 hour truce over easter.
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- That didn't work.
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- Both leaders appear pretty stubborn about getting a deal.
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- What's it going to take to make something work
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- When ukraine is so outnumbered?
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- Well, ukraine's been outnumbered for over three years.
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- Remember when russia attacked february 24th of 2022?
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- Every single western intelligence service,
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- Including ours, gave ukraine a week, two weeks max.
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- Here we are, three years into the battle.
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- And by the way, how many american servicemen have died?
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- Zero.
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- And the reason that's important to me
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- Is that two of our four children are u.s.
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- Army officers.
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- Now, of course, they'll do their duty
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- As our armed armed services always do.
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- And they'll do it valiantly and well.
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- But right now, i think ukraine is doing us a great favor
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- Because russia, let's remember who backs iran,
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- Who backs hezbollah, who backs the houthis.
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- That's iran.
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- And iran's number one benefactor by far, is russia.
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- So let's be clear about this in terms of a cease fire.
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- Cease fire is a great idea.
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- We definitely should do that.
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- But we can't have it be a cease fire like happened to nixon.
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- Kissinger. back in vietnam.
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- You'll remember that. they declared.
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- You know, they declared peace.
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- And six months later, the communist north vietnamese
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- Imposed a communist hellhole on the south vietnamese.
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- And 30 years of disaster.
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- That's not what anybody wants, except maybe putin.
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- And that's why, in my view.
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- And i was just there a couple of months ago,
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- Zelensky, i believe he does want a cease fire.
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- Putin.
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- He's not, he doesn't have to win an election.
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- So he's i don't think he's as
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- Concerned about the losses on the russian side.
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- But let's hope and let's pray for peace.
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- That's absolutely right.
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- Well, ambassador slaten,
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- Please stay with us for another segment.
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- We'd like to discuss more of ukraine's history
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- And the great number of christians there. yes.
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- And then later, i'm going to offer a bit
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- Of a biblical perspective on this long running war
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- And the hope available to citizens in both countries.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We're back now with ambassador gregory slayton,
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- Who spent the last several years
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- Putting together a rich history of ukraine, portraits
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- Of ukraine.
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- It's a beautiful book,
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- And if you buy the book, every dollar
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- You spend will go to the charity,
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- To the charity organizations there in ukraine.
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- He's also the chairman of slayton capital.
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- Well, 85% of ukraine is christian.
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- And there are also small groups of jews and muslims.
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- In your book,
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- You point out that russia has been charged
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- With committing
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- Thousands of gross violations of religious freedoms.
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- Tell us what they're doing
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- And how the people are dealing with it.
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- Well, yes, unfortunately, that's absolutely right.
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- In the occupied territories, there have been others over
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- 600 church, 600 churches in the occupied
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- Ukrainian share territories that have been either closed,
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- Destroyed or the pastor priest has been disappeared.
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- It's it's a it's a very serious problem.
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- We do talk about specifically in the book,
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- And there's also a lot of good research teams out there
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- That have done a lot of research.
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- There's, in fact, a pamphlet i was just reading called faith
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- Under siege.
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- Great movie of that type of that title also.
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- So it really is a problem.
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- And christians here in the states
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- Have to understand this bunk that we're hearing
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- From some quarters about religious freedom.
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- It's just not true. i mean, i've been there.
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- I've seen the churches have been destroyed.
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- Talk to,
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- You know, parishioners
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- Who were arrested, during a worship service.
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- In fact, this great movie, faith
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- Under siege, shows was a worship service.
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- And the russian soldiers come in and arrest
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- The pastor and priests and put people in
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- And pastor and start taking people away.
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- It's horrific.
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- There is no, freedom of religion in russia.
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- If you're russian orthodox, you're okay.
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- That's, that's vladimir putin's religion.
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- But if you're anything else, including any type of
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- Protestant, evangelical, charismatic christianity.
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- No, that is absolutely not.
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- You are not protected anywhere in russia, including
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- The territories of ukraine, that they now occupy by force.
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- Well, i want to pick up just a little bit
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- More of a humanitarian topic, perhaps.
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- I know there's some remarkable athletes in ukraine,
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- And their training has been completely disrupted by the war.
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- You tell us that
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- Those young athletes are still trying
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- To stay in shape when things end, you know?
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- Yeah. where do they practice?
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- They don't have to worry about getting tangled up
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- And all this craziness that the world's
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- Brought to their doorsteps.
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- Well, no.
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- That's right.
- 00:11:13.703 --> 00:11:14.704
- But to be honest, a number of those athletes
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- Are now soldiers, and they are fighting for their freedom.
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- Because that's the thing about ukraine.
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- You know, this isn't a war that they started,
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- But this is a war for their future,
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- For their families and for their freedom.
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- And they are united.
- 00:11:30.286 --> 00:11:31.220
- I was just in kiev very recently.
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- People are tired.
- 00:11:33.856 --> 00:11:34.891
- Everybody's lost.
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- Somebody an uncle, a father, a son.
- 00:11:36.125 --> 00:11:39.195
- Yeah.
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- Everybody's lost somebody.
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- But nobody talks about surrendering.
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- You think about it.
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- Somebody attacks the united states.
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- We're never going to surrender.
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- No matter how bad things look.
- 00:11:48.437 --> 00:11:50.039
- Somebody tries to take over our freedoms, our faith,
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- Our values, what we stand for, what we believe in.
- 00:11:53.843 --> 00:11:56.212
- We're not giving up.
- 00:11:56.212 --> 00:11:57.513
- And that's just the situation in ukraine.
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- The athletes, some of them have gone to other countries.
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- Poland has been a wonderful place
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- And received a lot of ukrainian refugees.
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- Some have come here to the united states, other nations.
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- But a large percentage of those athletes
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- Actually joined the ukrainian armed forces and are fighting,
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- For their freedom and their, their future.
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- You have raised the possibility that if the world allows russia
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- To take too much ukrainian territory,
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- It might encourage china to take taiwan.
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- Is that what you're hearing in the diplomatic community?
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- Yes. most definitely.
- 00:12:33.983 --> 00:12:35.051
- I spend a lot of time in asia.
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- I'm in jakarta right now.
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- Every east asian nation is worried about that
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- Because china taking taiwan cuts off a huge shipping lane
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- To thirds of the world's trade goes through, the east asian,
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- Shipping lanes.
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- And obviously taiwan is the leader in the semi
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- Semiconductor manufacturing, world.
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- And of course, it's been
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- Wonderful to see the west generally united.
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- I do hope the united states, you know, stay strong in this as
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- I think we should. we're
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- The leader of the democratic, freedom loving world.
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- We need to stand for other democracies who love freedom
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- And the rule of law.
- 00:13:18.327 --> 00:13:19.629
- But there's no doubt that xi jinping.
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- And again, he said it.
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- So we'll just take his word for it.
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- He said that china owns taiwan, needs to reabsorb taiwan.
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- Taiwan cannot be an independent breakaway.
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- That's the term. he is province.
- 00:13:32.541 --> 00:13:35.144
- Well, the taiwanese beg to differ.
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- They do not agree.
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- The large majority of taiwanese and the fact that the west,
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- Largely speaking, along with our asian allies
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- Like japan and korea and australia and others,
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- Have supported ukraine, has definitely given china pause.
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- Before we go.
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- Help our viewers understand some of the other rich gifts
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- From ukraine
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- The cuisine, the woodworking, the arts, the architectural
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- Accomplishments.
- 00:14:00.770 --> 00:14:01.837
- It's a stunning country with so much
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- That visitors would love to see if they could go back safely.
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- Eventually, i pray.
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- Yes. amen.
- 00:14:10.012 --> 00:14:10.846
- Well, tourism was either the number one
- 00:14:10.846 --> 00:14:13.082
- Or number two export of ukraine prior to the russian invasion.
- 00:14:13.082 --> 00:14:17.119
- Obviously nobody.
- 00:14:17.119 --> 00:14:18.387
- I mean, i go, but i'm not going for tourism, that's for sure.
- 00:14:18.387 --> 00:14:21.624
- But you're absolutely right.
- 00:14:21.624 --> 00:14:22.692
- It's a rich and deep culture.
- 00:14:22.692 --> 00:14:25.027
- Beautiful, beautiful, handiwork, beautiful
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- Carving, a great dress, all kinds of stuff.
- 00:14:29.665 --> 00:14:33.002
- Of course.
- 00:14:33.002 --> 00:14:34.170
- Famous for the easter eggs and many, many other things.
- 00:14:34.170 --> 00:14:37.039
- But also ukraine was one of the leaders in technology
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- And still is today in many areas of technology.
- 00:14:40.743 --> 00:14:44.480
- Ukraine leads, in fact, many.
- 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.682
- I'm a silicon valley venture capitalist,
- 00:14:46.682 --> 00:14:49.452
- And that's what slayton capital does.
- 00:14:49.452 --> 00:14:51.487
- And some of our companies
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- Actually have employees in ukraine, coders and others
- 00:14:52.855 --> 00:14:56.759
- Who are helping with tech companies.
- 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.027
- So it's a it's a rich company,
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- The country, it's a great country.
- 00:14:59.929 --> 00:15:01.764
- And all they want is peace.
- 00:15:01.764 --> 00:15:04.166
- They just want to be left alone.
- 00:15:04.166 --> 00:15:07.103
- And, yeah, i think we can all respect that.
- 00:15:07.103 --> 00:15:09.672
- So let's really pray for peace in ukraine,
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- For peace in russia, peace in belarus, for peace
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- In that region to prevail because it's a rich,
- 00:15:14.910 --> 00:15:18.948
- Wonderful region with a very long, deep christian history.
- 00:15:18.948 --> 00:15:23.452
- Well, ambassador, thank you for joining us.
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- I happen to know you're in jakarta,
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- And it was quite an effort for you
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- To make the program with us today.
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- Thank you.
- 00:15:31.093 --> 00:15:32.762
- And it's a great pleasure to be with you, alan.
- 00:15:32.762 --> 00:15:34.463
- Thank you.
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- Here's another look. it is an informative new book.
- 00:15:35.531 --> 00:15:37.767
- It's portraits of ukraine, a nation at war,
- 00:15:37.767 --> 00:15:41.037
- And we hope that the future editions
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- Will come with no need to mention war on the cover.
- 00:15:42.805 --> 00:15:45.674
- We will join you in praying for peace.
- 00:15:45.674 --> 00:15:48.110
- And i just like to mention the nonprofit
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- That is helping support the people there.
- 00:15:49.812 --> 00:15:51.947
- It's family first global.org.
- 00:15:51.947 --> 00:15:55.317
- There's a way we can make a difference.
- 00:15:55.317 --> 00:15:56.719
- There is something we can do and we come back.
- 00:15:56.719 --> 00:15:59.588
- Hope and truth. and what the bible says
- 00:15:59.588 --> 00:16:01.624
- That points us in the right direction.
- 00:16:01.624 --> 00:16:03.826
- Stay with us. i'll be right back.
- 00:16:03.826 --> 00:16:12.009
- Stay with us. i'll be right back.
- 00:16:12.009 --> 00:16:14.707
- And when the ukraine war first began, i was on zoom
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- Calls on a regular basis with leaders
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- In the christian communities of ukraine.
- 00:16:21.314 --> 00:16:23.516
- It was tragic to hear the stories
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- Of the civilian populations being targeted,
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- The apartment buildings
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- That were being decimated by rocket fire.
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- We bought vans.
- 00:16:31.658 --> 00:16:32.659
- We sent food and clothing.
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- We were doing whatever we could to provide
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- Support and resources
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- For the people that were trapped in that horrible conflict.
- 00:16:37.330 --> 00:16:41.034
- Unfortunately, it seems that the leadership
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- Of russia and the leadership of ukraine
- 00:16:42.869 --> 00:16:45.071
- Too frequently
- 00:16:45.071 --> 00:16:46.239
- Aren't that willing and bringing a swift into a war
- 00:16:46.239 --> 00:16:48.708
- That's cost more than a million lives.
- 00:16:48.708 --> 00:16:51.444
- It's as if human life is expendable.
- 00:16:51.444 --> 00:16:53.379
- Just a number.
- 00:16:53.379 --> 00:16:54.914
- Well, sadly, that attitude was found in dc as well.
- 00:16:54.914 --> 00:16:58.551
- During trump's recent address to congress.
- 00:16:58.551 --> 00:17:00.587
- We witnessed elected officials stand and applaud
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- In support of indefinitely extending the ukraine war.
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- It's illogical.
- 00:17:07.127 --> 00:17:08.695
- I'm thankful for the grown up voices that are saying
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- We have to bring a resolution to that conflict.
- 00:17:10.763 --> 00:17:13.700
- We've just published a new book called angels, demons, and you.
- 00:17:13.700 --> 00:17:16.603
- So i guess my mind has been a bit on that topic.
- 00:17:16.603 --> 00:17:19.372
- There's a verse in hebrews
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- That even says, we should be aware
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- That sometimes we've entertained angels.
- 00:17:21.908 --> 00:17:24.344
- Well, i want to share something that happened to me recently.
- 00:17:24.344 --> 00:17:26.446
- I have a habit at the end of every service
- 00:17:26.446 --> 00:17:28.448
- To stand at the altar and pray for people.
- 00:17:28.448 --> 00:17:31.017
- Well, recently i had an experience
- 00:17:31.017 --> 00:17:32.519
- When a man came up to me, introduced himself.
- 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:34.687
- He just told me his first name. he said it was benjamin.
- 00:17:34.687 --> 00:17:37.290
- He had a bit of an accent
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- And he simply said, pastor,
- 00:17:38.424 --> 00:17:39.726
- We need to pray that the war will end in ukraine.
- 00:17:39.726 --> 00:17:42.662
- He said, i'm a pastor there. will you pray with me?
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- So we stopped and prayed. that was all he said.
- 00:17:44.931 --> 00:17:47.467
- Then he slipped away. the conversation was brief.
- 00:17:47.467 --> 00:17:50.336
- He didn't hand me a business card that said i'm an angel.
- 00:17:50.336 --> 00:17:53.039
- But there were enough unique characteristics around it
- 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:55.675
- That it got my attention.
- 00:17:55.675 --> 00:17:57.410
- And i've been praying since then that the war in ukraine
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- Will end.
- 00:18:00.246 --> 00:18:01.247
- And i want to hand that assignment to you.
- 00:18:01.247 --> 00:18:03.049
- So often we say there's nothing we can do.
- 00:18:03.049 --> 00:18:05.585
- Well, i believe there is.
- 00:18:05.585 --> 00:18:06.619
- I believe the prayers of god's
- 00:18:06.619 --> 00:18:08.021
- People can change even the destiny of nations.
- 00:18:08.021 --> 00:18:11.658
- When we return, i'm going to read
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- And respond to some of your emails.
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- And respond to some of your emails.
- 00:18:22.011 --> 00:18:27.143
- Thank you for your emails.
- 00:18:27.710 --> 00:18:28.945
- I always enjoy reading them.
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- Nancy commented on a youtube episode with doctor george barna
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- Allen,
- 00:18:34.684 --> 00:18:35.585
- When you said that we are being shaken,
- 00:18:35.585 --> 00:18:36.819
- I really didn't understand just how much shaking was going on.
- 00:18:36.819 --> 00:18:40.089
- After doctor barna listed the many things
- 00:18:40.089 --> 00:18:41.857
- That are changing in our nation and how fast it's all changing.
- 00:18:41.857 --> 00:18:44.961
- It really opened my eyes.
- 00:18:44.961 --> 00:18:46.629
- All of this just makes me so much happier.
- 00:18:46.629 --> 00:18:48.564
- I have my faith in you to help lead the way to the answers,
- 00:18:48.564 --> 00:18:51.934
- The bible, god, and prayers.
- 00:18:51.934 --> 00:18:53.603
- Those are my answers.
- 00:18:53.603 --> 00:18:55.004
- Yes, and we are shaking.
- 00:18:55.004 --> 00:18:56.272
- But i know i'm also praying more every day.
- 00:18:56.272 --> 00:18:59.041
- Well, nancy, i think the good news is that
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- In the midst of all the shaking,
- 00:19:00.643 --> 00:19:02.078
- It is revealing those things which cannot be shaken.
- 00:19:02.078 --> 00:19:05.748
- And those are the principles of the kingdom of god.
- 00:19:05.748 --> 00:19:08.084
- There's hope in the midst of all of this, i promise.
- 00:19:08.084 --> 00:19:11.520
- Maria from new mexico wrote, i love your show.
- 00:19:11.520 --> 00:19:13.689
- An entire lineup. i have the same concerns.
- 00:19:13.689 --> 00:19:16.359
- I would like to see radical judges checked.
- 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:18.728
- We all see them overreaching their jurisdiction.
- 00:19:18.728 --> 00:19:21.330
- At some point, it needs to stop.
- 00:19:21.330 --> 00:19:22.932
- Consequences need to be implemented
- 00:19:22.932 --> 00:19:24.700
- For deliberately putting americans at risk for chaos.
- 00:19:24.700 --> 00:19:28.404
- Maria, i couldn't agree more.
- 00:19:28.404 --> 00:19:30.306
- The lawfare has to be stopped
- 00:19:30.306 --> 00:19:32.541
- If we're going to maintain our liberties
- 00:19:32.541 --> 00:19:34.410
- And freedoms in the future.
- 00:19:34.410 --> 00:19:36.412
- If only. joni mitchell i did it today.
- 00:19:36.412 --> 00:19:38.281
- I finish reading matthew, mark, luke, and john.
- 00:19:38.281 --> 00:19:40.249
- I really enjoyed walking with jesus.
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- Joan. congratulations!
- 00:19:42.718 --> 00:19:44.253
- That's a good habit for all of us to build.
- 00:19:44.253 --> 00:19:46.289
- We're in the process of building a community,
- 00:19:47.189 --> 00:19:49.458
- A community of trust that we would love
- 00:19:49.458 --> 00:19:51.761
- To have as many people as possible involved.
- 00:19:51.761 --> 00:19:54.230
- So please tell a friend to watch the show.
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- It's live at 7 p.m.
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- Eastern time, 6 p.m.
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- Central or any time on youtube.
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- You can go to aj now.com to watch the latest episode.
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- Or even purchase my new book, angels demons in you.
- 00:20:06.342 --> 00:20:09.879
- Thank you for helping to share the word with others.
- 00:20:09.879 --> 00:20:12.415
- Truth matters and i hope it will spread.
- 00:20:12.415 --> 00:20:15.751
- I'm alan jackson.
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- You have a wonderful evening.
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