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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: April 8, 2025 | Allen Jackson NOW | April 8, 2025
- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- We begin tonight with the economy
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- And the transition that's underway.
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- Moving from the biden years to the trump way of doing things.
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- One man, a lifelong tax and spend politician.
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- The other a businessman and a successful realtor.
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- Well, the difference says everything
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- You need to know about the hole.
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- We were in economically versus the progress going on now
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- With donald trump back in the white house.
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- Republicans on the hill are moving ahead to pass the tax
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- Cut bill later this year.
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- Regulations have been reduced
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- Big time for both small and large businesses.
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- Government spending is being cut like we've never seen before.
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- Large foreign and american companies are investing
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- And building new businesses here at home.
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- And there are the tariffs,
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- The reciprocal tariffs, as president trump calls them.
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- Dozens of countries
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- Have called the white house to work out a deal.
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- But there is one big holdout china.
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- Which brings us to our guest tonight.
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- Gordon. shane, welcome back to our show.
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- Well, thank you so much, pastor.
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- You know,
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- I think most americans
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- Were focused on inflation when they voted for trump.
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- So it's been a big learning curve to find out
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- How disadvantaged
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- This country has been
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- By having the exports
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- We produce marked up by foreign governments.
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- Well, the products
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- We import from them are often discounted
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- By those same foreign governments.
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- The biggest players, china, they know it.
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- And we know well.
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- This morning china said they will
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- Not be blackmailed and they will fight to the end.
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- Gordon, can you please start by giving us your interpretation
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- Of what that means?
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- Well, the commerce, commerce ministry, which said
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- That, basically was trying to intimidate president trump.
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- Now we hold all the high cards in this struggle.
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- We are, first of all, the larger economy.
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- China is less than two thirds the size of us,
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- But also they are the trade surplus country.
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- Last year, their merchandise trade
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- Surplus with us was $295.4 billion.
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- The only way china can win this is actually to intimidate
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- President trump into preemptively surrendering,
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- Even though he's got all the leverage.
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- And essentially the china is not going to give up.
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- But president trump,
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- You know,
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- He's not going to be intimidated because he knows
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- That he's got those high cards.
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- Well, total trade with china
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- Is about $582 billion, but only 140 billion is u.s.
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- Exports to china.
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- They put a big barriers to u.s.
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- Products selling there,
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- And they pay their own people very little.
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- So along with internal subsidies,
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- They've been able to grow their advantage every year.
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- Am i right in that analysis?
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- Well, yes.
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- And also, one other thing.
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- And that is china steals
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- Hundreds of billions of dollars of u.s.
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- Intellectual property each year,
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- Perhaps as much as $500 billion as,
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- John radcliffe, when he was director
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- Of national intelligence, said in december 2020.
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- So we're talking a lot of loss through that.
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- So that's china's other advantage
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- In terms of its trade with the united states.
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- It's criminal as well as predatory.
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- Gordon, you said recently that the chinese leader
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- Is facing a lot of internal problems
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- Of his own members of his own party quitting being fired.
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- But first,
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- Listen to how trump's sees this reciprocal tariff battle.
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- For decades, our country has been looted,
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- Pillaged, raped and plundered by nations near and far.
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- Both friend and foe alike.
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- American steel workers, auto workers,
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- Farmers and skilled craftsmen.
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- We have a lot of them here with us today.
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- They really suffered. gravely.
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- They watched in anguish as foreign leaders have stolen
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- Our jobs, foreign cheaters have ransacked our factories
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- And foreign scavengers
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- Have torn apart our once beautiful american dream.
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- You know,
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- Most people had no idea that americans got penalized
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- This much on the products they buy that are shipped here.
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- How will the chinese leader react
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- When our president gets tough?
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- Given how many problems he has now.
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- The problem procedure in
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- Beijing is that he cannot act economically, rationally.
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- And the reason is that he's configured
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- The chinese political system
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- So that only the
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- Most belligerent answers are considered acceptable,
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- Which means xi jinping knows he needs to do a deal
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- With president trump.
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- I think he also knows he's got to make big concessions
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- To the united states.
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- But it's very hard for him
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- To start that conversation, as trump said a few hours ago.
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- And it's also very hard for trump to make concessions,
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- Because the way that he has set all of this up.
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- So right now, i think he's boxed in.
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- You think the president's boxed in or he is boxed in?
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- Xi jinping is boxed in.
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- We've got a
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- We got all the freedom of action that we can deal with.
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- Remember, we have 70 plus countries around
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- The world are coming to the trump administration
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- Looking for a deal.
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- China is not one of them.
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- Everybody knows that the first people who sign up
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- Deals are going to get the best deals, and china is going to be
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- The last one,
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- And it's not going to be pretty for the chinese economy.
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- You mentioned the pressure on president trump.
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- I'm assuming that's pressure from the financial markets,
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- From the media.
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- It's those external pressures within our nation
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- That he's got to endure while he gets
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- All these negotiations done.
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- Yes. and he has a lot of pressure,
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- But i think he's also shown that he is going to withstand it.
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- He knew what this was going to be like.
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- He, as he said, these are things.
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- These are tasks
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- That had to be done because the current situation,
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- The one going back for decades, has been unsustainable.
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- These large trade
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- Deficits, the large overspending by the government,
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- All of these big projects that president trump is taking on.
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- And of course, wall street doesn't like it.
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- We know that because we can see
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- What's happened since tariff day, april 2nd.
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- But nonetheless,
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- I think the markets are going to come back
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- Because they're going to see that the way we end up
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- Is in a lot better place than where we started.
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- With regard to the tariffs.
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- Well, gordon, please stay with us for one more segment.
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- For those of you
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- Watching, we'd love for you to write us
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- An email with your thoughts on this discussion.
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- We read them all
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- And we answer as many as we can fit at the end of the show.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We're back now
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- With our country's wise china expert, gordon chang.
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- His most recent book is called plan red
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- China's project to destroy america.
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- Gordon.
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- Given the book title,
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- Do you think the chinese see this tariff battle
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- As just another chance to bring destruction to america?
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- Oh, absolutely.
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- It's not just trade, of course.
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- It's fentanyl.
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- It's intellectual property theft.
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- It's the cyberattacks.
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- It's the infiltration of our political system.
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- The list just goes on and on.
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- But with trade,
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- They think that they can weaken the united states.
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- And they've been running these persistent trade surpluses
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- Against us
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- Because their policies are predatory
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- And because of the criminal acts that china is engaging
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- In stealing our intellectual property.
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- So, yes, this is one part of their plan of what's called
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- Unrestricted warfare.
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- Vietnam has already said that it wants
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- To eliminate their tariffs, which were at 90%.
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- They may love the idea of picking up business
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- That's being done in china.
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- Now if president xi doesn't deal there are others as well.
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- So how might that affect how he responds?
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- Well, i think that president trump, you know,
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- Looks at this and sees that some countries are going to,
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- Bring down their tariffs and their non-tariff barriers
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- Because vietnam has a lot of
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- Non-tariff tariff barriers as well.
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- And as i mentioned,
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- Most people believe that
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- The first countries that will end up with the deal
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- With the united states are going to get the best arrangements.
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- So, china,
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- Which is
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- Standing on the sidelines, which is refusing
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- To talk to the trump administration,
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- Is not doing itself any favors because eventually
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- We are going to have access to a lot of markets
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- That we've not had access to before.
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- And china will therefore be a lot less important for the
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- American economy.
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- You know, i'm thinking this fight with china
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- Isn't just about products, because there's
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- Sort of codependency between the two countries.
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- But we've seen the spy balloons, the pictures
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- Of the chinese naval shipbuilding,
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- Their take over the panama canal ports.
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- And there's a whole lot more as well.
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- Is that part of what's driving the president's team
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- To have a real showdown with xi?
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- Now, if it comes to that.
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- Well, it's not so much that the president wants
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- A showdown with china.
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- It's just that china's doing a number of things,
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- Across the board, which are unacceptable,
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- Which are dangerous and belligerent,
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- And some of them are ending up in the deaths of americans.
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- So, for instance,
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- The communist party is behind the sale of fentanyl to the us.
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- That's 70,000 americans who die each and every year.
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- From a policy that is said at the top of the communist party.
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- These are not overdose deaths, deaths.
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- These are murderers.
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- And we can say the same thing
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- About the spread of covid beyond china's borders.
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- We don't know how covid started 100%, but 100%.
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- We know that china, once this disease
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- Got out into central china, decided that the,
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- That the disease should spread to, the united states
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- And other countries.
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- And that's 1.2 million americans pastor that died
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- From a disease that should never have left the wuhan area.
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- It's unbelievable.
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- You know, the question i'm asked so frequently
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- By people is, you know, what can i do?
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- I feel powerless.
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- It seems like in this particular trade discussion with china,
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- There is something we can do.
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- We can decide that $10 cheaper on our flatscreen television
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- Isn't worth sacrificing the future of our children for.
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- Am i misunderstanding the nature of this battle
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- And how it plays out with people that just live on main street?
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- Oh, that's absolutely right.
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- And the other thing that we can do is
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- We can talk to our legislators, demand country of origin
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- Labeling to make sure that the websites
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- Tell us where this stuff comes from.
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- So consumers can make a decision as to not buy this stuff
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- From china.
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- And the other thing is to make sure tell your broker
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- Not to own any mutual funds that include chinese stocks.
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- We should be cutting our links with the chinese regime,
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- Not funding their military,
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- Which is configured to kill americans.
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- You know, i understand the combat of aggressive nature.
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- I think of the chinese regime.
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- What about the chinese people, that broad population?
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- What's their attitude towards america?
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- Yeah, i think most people in china,
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- You know, they they want good relations with the us
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- And certainly they do not want war right now.
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- You got a war like communist party at the top.
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- Xi jinping
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- Probably believes
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- A war of some sort is in his personal interests.
- 00:11:09.128 --> 00:11:12.297
- But the chinese people, they just don't want any of it.
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- Really, what they want is the prosperity
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- That they had pre-covid.
- 00:11:17.069 --> 00:11:18.771
- And unfortunately, japan has been making decisions
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- That make that virtually impossible.
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- You know, we've seen chinese banks
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- Popping up around the country.
- 00:11:26.545 --> 00:11:28.313
- Is that part of the plan to weaken our dollar, or if not,
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- What is it about?
- 00:11:31.683 --> 00:11:33.552
- It's not so much weaken the dollar, but it is to, gain
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- A foothold in the united states and to, be
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- In our financial system, to be in the banking network.
- 00:11:40.225 --> 00:11:43.662
- It's just another outpost for
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- The communist party,
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- An area where they can influence the american public.
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- So you.
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- Yeah, we got to get chinese banks out of our country.
- 00:11:51.303 --> 00:11:53.272
- And by the way, since they launder the proceeds
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- For the fentanyl gangs,
- 00:11:55.374 --> 00:11:56.675
- We can declare them to be a primary money
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- Laundering concern under the patriot act
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- And unplug them from the us dollar system.
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- You know,
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- We didn't allow pablo escobar to run money through new york,
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- But we were allowing the chinese to do that, and that's on us.
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- It's amazing.
- 00:12:11.390 --> 00:12:12.925
- You know, the legacy media seems determined to frame this
- 00:12:12.925 --> 00:12:15.994
- Tariff battle
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- As something that they can use to diminish president trump.
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- If i'm hearing you,
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- You seem to think it's common sense and good
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- For the american people and good for american business.
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- Is that a good summary of what's happening?
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- 100%.
- 00:12:29.508 --> 00:12:30.642
- I mean, we have got to rebalance our trade relations.
- 00:12:30.642 --> 00:12:33.645
- You know, u.s.
- 00:12:33.645 --> 00:12:34.479
- Accounts for almost half of the world's
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- Trade deficits that just can't go on.
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- We have to end this.
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- We have to
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- Build factories in our country to rebuild communities.
- 00:12:40.819 --> 00:12:44.056
- You drive through detroit, the rust belt, through the south.
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- You see
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- All of these towns that have been devastated
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- By the loss of good paying jobs to china.
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- We need to reverse that.
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- I don't care what happens to wall street.
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- I really care what happens to main street.
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- Amen.
- 00:12:59.304 --> 00:13:00.572
- Well, gordon chang, thank you for spending time with us today.
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- I hope you'll come back
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- As this plays out over these next few months.
- 00:13:04.810 --> 00:13:07.613
- Well, thank you, pastor.
- 00:13:07.613 --> 00:13:08.580
- I look forward to that.
- 00:13:08.580 --> 00:13:10.282
- Well, in a moment, i'll have some thoughts of my own.
- 00:13:10.282 --> 00:13:12.651
- And later you take the microphone with your emails.
- 00:13:12.651 --> 00:13:15.754
- I'll be right back.
- 00:13:15.754 --> 00:13:23.000
- I'll be right back.
- 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:24.730
- I believe we're in a season of shaking.
- 00:13:25.597 --> 00:13:28.367
- The shaking may feel uncomfortable at the moment,
- 00:13:28.367 --> 00:13:30.836
- But after the shaking, things become visible.
- 00:13:30.836 --> 00:13:33.305
- They just weren't visible before.
- 00:13:33.305 --> 00:13:35.307
- When it comes to reciprocal tariffs,
- 00:13:35.307 --> 00:13:37.142
- The legacy media is quick
- 00:13:37.142 --> 00:13:38.610
- To push fear inducing headlines and prognosis.
- 00:13:38.610 --> 00:13:41.747
- Don't fall for it.
- 00:13:41.747 --> 00:13:43.248
- It's just like the days of covid.
- 00:13:43.248 --> 00:13:44.783
- Some five years ago.
- 00:13:44.783 --> 00:13:45.817
- The same manipulative attitudes
- 00:13:45.817 --> 00:13:47.519
- And tools which made the fear of the virus so damaging.
- 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.390
- Well, they're still operating in our midst.
- 00:13:51.390 --> 00:13:53.592
- Let's not be so unprepared and gullible this time.
- 00:13:53.592 --> 00:13:57.462
- I believe what's being initiated by this administration
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- Through tariffs
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- Is an expression of support for the american people.
- 00:14:00.999 --> 00:14:04.036
- The administration is standing up for u.s.
- 00:14:04.036 --> 00:14:05.971
- Citizens, saying to foreign governments,
- 00:14:05.971 --> 00:14:08.340
- You'll not take unfair advantage of us any longer.
- 00:14:08.340 --> 00:14:11.743
- Well, as a nation,
- 00:14:11.743 --> 00:14:12.978
- We can't continue to be ever dependent on an authoritarian
- 00:14:12.978 --> 00:14:15.647
- Regime like china for our goods and services.
- 00:14:15.647 --> 00:14:18.684
- The numbers are clear.
- 00:14:19.151 --> 00:14:20.085
- The math is unsettling.
- 00:14:20.085 --> 00:14:22.087
- In fact, it's just easier not to think about it.
- 00:14:22.087 --> 00:14:24.156
- It's uncomfortable in the moment.
- 00:14:24.156 --> 00:14:26.058
- Just as many times.
- 00:14:26.058 --> 00:14:27.092
- Truth is uncomfortable when we bump into it.
- 00:14:27.092 --> 00:14:29.895
- Well, the good news is we don't have to be afraid.
- 00:14:29.895 --> 00:14:33.332
- We may get frightened, and we may see fearful things,
- 00:14:33.332 --> 00:14:36.101
- But we don't have to lead lives that are dominated by fear.
- 00:14:36.101 --> 00:14:39.571
- I would remind you that
- 00:14:40.072 --> 00:14:41.206
- Jesus didn't lead a life free of conflict or challenge.
- 00:14:41.206 --> 00:14:44.776
- We find jesus in boats during storms.
- 00:14:44.776 --> 00:14:46.979
- He goes to his hometown.
- 00:14:46.979 --> 00:14:48.213
- They tried to kill him. he healed someone
- 00:14:48.213 --> 00:14:50.849
- And they told him he did it on the wrong day.
- 00:14:50.849 --> 00:14:53.185
- He faced all sorts of challenges
- 00:14:53.185 --> 00:14:54.920
- Until they finally nailed him to a roman cross.
- 00:14:54.920 --> 00:14:57.990
- What we see in jesus is that he's never panicked.
- 00:14:57.990 --> 00:15:01.093
- If he has to feed a multitude with a happy meal.
- 00:15:01.093 --> 00:15:03.495
- He's completely confident that there's enough for everybody.
- 00:15:03.495 --> 00:15:06.665
- If he faces a demon in a person, he's completely confident
- 00:15:06.665 --> 00:15:10.068
- That he has the authority to address the unclean spirit.
- 00:15:10.068 --> 00:15:13.605
- Well, the world has heard enough
- 00:15:13.605 --> 00:15:15.540
- Of the bleeding of fear, confusion and hatred.
- 00:15:15.540 --> 00:15:19.511
- I would submit to you that it desperately needs
- 00:15:19.511 --> 00:15:21.847
- To hear the roar of truth and righteousness from god's people.
- 00:15:21.847 --> 00:15:26.018
- Listen to what jesus said.
- 00:15:26.585 --> 00:15:27.686
- It's john 1427.
- 00:15:27.686 --> 00:15:29.654
- Peace i leave with you.
- 00:15:29.654 --> 00:15:30.756
- My peace i give you.
- 00:15:30.756 --> 00:15:32.691
- I don't give to you as the world gives.
- 00:15:32.691 --> 00:15:34.726
- Don't let your hearts be troubled, and do not be afraid.
- 00:15:34.726 --> 00:15:38.063
- In this time of uncertainty,
- 00:15:38.663 --> 00:15:40.332
- Let's meditate on what jesus said to us.
- 00:15:40.332 --> 00:15:42.434
- Memorize it. put it in your heart.
- 00:15:42.434 --> 00:15:44.236
- Jesus said, my peace i give you.
- 00:15:44.236 --> 00:15:46.772
- This is our time in the arena.
- 00:15:46.772 --> 00:15:48.840
- Be strong and courageous.
- 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:50.242
- There's no reason for us to fear.
- 00:15:50.242 --> 00:15:52.110
- God has given us everything we need
- 00:15:52.110 --> 00:15:54.579
- To fulfill our assignment.
- 00:15:54.579 --> 00:15:56.848
- If we'll put that in our hearts, i promise you
- 00:15:56.848 --> 00:15:59.351
- There's more reasons for courage and hope than for despair
- 00:15:59.351 --> 00:16:03.855
- When we return. i'm going to read some of your emails.
- 00:16:03.855 --> 00:16:12.005
- When we return. i'm going to read some of your emails.
- 00:16:12.005 --> 00:16:14.767
- Thank you for taking the time to share
- 00:16:15.568 --> 00:16:17.203
- Your thoughts and opinions with us.
- 00:16:17.203 --> 00:16:18.571
- We always look forward to reading your emails.
- 00:16:18.571 --> 00:16:21.040
- Mark from des moines wrote i suggest that we do a dose
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- Guest sheet to each congressman and senator,
- 00:16:24.243 --> 00:16:26.679
- Asking them to list five things they did last week.
- 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.615
- How often could that list include?
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- I voted on a bill. well,
- 00:16:31.117 --> 00:16:32.885
- I give them a lot of things they could put on that sheet.
- 00:16:32.885 --> 00:16:35.354
- You know,
- 00:16:35.354 --> 00:16:36.155
- I leaked information to the media
- 00:16:36.155 --> 00:16:37.056
- To try
- 00:16:37.056 --> 00:16:38.091
- To embarrass our president or the administration.
- 00:16:38.091 --> 00:16:39.959
- I mean, it's almost an endless list.
- 00:16:39.959 --> 00:16:41.427
- I'll get in trouble if i go further.
- 00:16:41.427 --> 00:16:43.229
- We interviewed a congressman recently
- 00:16:43.229 --> 00:16:44.564
- Who suggested that every congressional office,
- 00:16:44.564 --> 00:16:46.632
- Every congressman, should cut $100,000
- 00:16:46.632 --> 00:16:49.769
- From their staff budget to give it back.
- 00:16:49.769 --> 00:16:52.371
- All of those ideas sound pretty good to me.
- 00:16:52.371 --> 00:16:54.574
- Bob from cleveland, tennessee.
- 00:16:55.174 --> 00:16:57.009
- For quite some time, those in this nation
- 00:16:57.009 --> 00:16:58.945
- Who wish to have a one world government
- 00:16:58.945 --> 00:17:00.346
- Have been doing their very best to accomplish that goal.
- 00:17:00.346 --> 00:17:03.449
- They're the same ones
- 00:17:03.449 --> 00:17:04.383
- Who have resisted donald trump at every turn.
- 00:17:04.383 --> 00:17:06.786
- I'm convinced that they'll stop at nothing,
- 00:17:06.786 --> 00:17:08.688
- Including violence, to prevent donald trump
- 00:17:08.688 --> 00:17:10.590
- From accomplishing his goal
- 00:17:10.590 --> 00:17:11.824
- Of rejuvenating this nation's economy.
- 00:17:11.824 --> 00:17:15.228
- Well, the violence against president
- 00:17:15.228 --> 00:17:16.462
- Trump is not conjecture.
- 00:17:16.462 --> 00:17:17.763
- We've seen that already.
- 00:17:17.763 --> 00:17:19.866
- I think our daily prayers for those in authority over us
- 00:17:19.866 --> 00:17:23.269
- Are a very important part of the protection for our nation.
- 00:17:23.269 --> 00:17:26.572
- I'm grateful for the secret service and all they do.
- 00:17:26.572 --> 00:17:29.375
- But god's protection
- 00:17:29.375 --> 00:17:30.543
- And the angels deployed around us are mission critical for
- 00:17:30.543 --> 00:17:34.413
- The purposes of god coming in. our generation.
- 00:17:34.413 --> 00:17:36.916
- And i couldn't agree more, bob.
- 00:17:36.916 --> 00:17:38.217
- I think the tariffs and the discussions around our economy
- 00:17:38.217 --> 00:17:41.454
- And returning jobs to the american
- 00:17:41.454 --> 00:17:43.022
- Workforce are an important part of strengthening our nation.
- 00:17:43.022 --> 00:17:46.559
- One that's over been overlooked for far too long.
- 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.395
- Lisa from north carolina wrote, i like representative
- 00:17:50.463 --> 00:17:53.166
- Bean's bill to cut congressional staff by 5%.
- 00:17:53.166 --> 00:17:56.569
- However, i would recommend the 10% reduction in the house
- 00:17:56.569 --> 00:17:58.938
- And senate members salaries
- 00:17:58.938 --> 00:18:00.306
- As a show of support towards eliminating the us debt.
- 00:18:00.306 --> 00:18:04.110
- It also aligns with president trump, musk,
- 00:18:04.110 --> 00:18:06.479
- And other cabinet members
- 00:18:06.479 --> 00:18:07.580
- Not taking a federal salary to do their jobs.
- 00:18:07.580 --> 00:18:11.317
- Well, there has to be some cost cutting measures put in place.
- 00:18:11.317 --> 00:18:14.120
- Maybe nobody gets a raise until the budget is balanced
- 00:18:14.120 --> 00:18:17.290
- Or $1 trillion is cut from the deficit.
- 00:18:17.290 --> 00:18:19.292
- Let's put some incentives out there for those leading us
- 00:18:19.292 --> 00:18:22.094
- That incentivizes them to go in the wrong direction.
- 00:18:22.094 --> 00:18:24.263
- I tell you what i am tired of.
- 00:18:24.263 --> 00:18:25.965
- I'm tired of people that we elect
- 00:18:25.965 --> 00:18:27.600
- Becoming millionaires with enormous resources.
- 00:18:27.600 --> 00:18:31.204
- Well, they lead our nation further into debt and weaken us.
- 00:18:31.204 --> 00:18:35.074
- That has to stop.
- 00:18:35.074 --> 00:18:36.842
- Kathy noted on youtube with the interview with jordan rubin.
- 00:18:38.010 --> 00:18:40.880
- I greatly appreciated that you invited doctor
- 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.549
- Jordan rubin to the table
- 00:18:43.549 --> 00:18:44.684
- To discuss the importance of health and wellness
- 00:18:44.684 --> 00:18:47.520
- Overall, health and well-being is possible if
- 00:18:47.520 --> 00:18:49.655
- We stick to a healthy lifestyle undergirded by godly wisdom.
- 00:18:49.655 --> 00:18:53.826
- And as doctor rubin shared, god is clearly laid
- 00:18:53.826 --> 00:18:56.229
- Out in the holy scriptures, principles and right choices
- 00:18:56.229 --> 00:18:58.598
- To help us thrive in every stage of life.
- 00:18:58.598 --> 00:19:01.834
- Well, i have very much enjoyed the conversations
- 00:19:02.802 --> 00:19:04.971
- With jordan rubin.
- 00:19:04.971 --> 00:19:06.272
- He's even helped me
- 00:19:06.272 --> 00:19:07.473
- Make some healthier choices and get on a better pathway.
- 00:19:07.473 --> 00:19:10.843
- I've even pushed chocolate to the back of the shelf,
- 00:19:10.843 --> 00:19:13.679
- And i'm making healthier choices in my life,
- 00:19:13.679 --> 00:19:16.816
- Healthier choices to help us lead healthier lives.
- 00:19:16.816 --> 00:19:20.586
- It's not healthy choices in order to
- 00:19:20.586 --> 00:19:22.989
- As a means of righteousness.
- 00:19:22.989 --> 00:19:24.624
- Don't confuse the two.
- 00:19:24.624 --> 00:19:26.225
- We need our health so we can serve the lord.
- 00:19:26.225 --> 00:19:28.828
- And finally, r.w.
- 00:19:29.262 --> 00:19:30.229
- From california said, the show's terrific.
- 00:19:30.229 --> 00:19:32.398
- We're able to hear your guest in the news.
- 00:19:32.398 --> 00:19:34.166
- You give as needed by the voters.
- 00:19:34.166 --> 00:19:35.901
- Thank you.
- 00:19:35.901 --> 00:19:37.236
- Well, you are welcome.
- 00:19:37.236 --> 00:19:38.371
- We'll keep doing our work.
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- If you haven't yet, you go to aj now.com.
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- There you can see our most recent episode ways to watch.
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