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God's unconditional love is immeasurable. Let's talk about how to share this Good News with others. | TBN Prayer Line: 1-888-731-1000

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  • - The cross isour daily reminder
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  • of God's unconditionallove for us.
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  • So how can we walkconfidently in that love
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  • and share our faith with others?
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  • Come on, let's talk about it.
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  • (cheerful music)
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  • - So we live inthis neighborhood
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  • that has quite a fewolder people, right?
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  • The diamond communityare in our neighborhood.
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  • And one of the ladiesnext to us is a widow.
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  • And her name is Linda.
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  • When we first moved in, Lindawas really, you could tell
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  • a little bit unsure of afamily of four young boys
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  • moving into her nicequiet experience.
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  • But I would just everydaygo out and get my mail
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  • and talk to her, andI quickly learned
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  • that Linda was estrangedfrom her family.
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  • Her eldest son had diedof a drug overdose.
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  • Her husband haddied of alcoholism,
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  • and her daughter wasestranged from her.
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  • And so she was onher own all the time.
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  • And so I found myselfwanting to just win her,
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  • win her over, and soI told her what I did
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  • and that I was a believerand that I was a minister
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  • and I traveled andall the things.
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  • And I would just be askind as I could to her.
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  • And day after day,month after month,
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  • we would have theseconversations.
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  • And I'll never forgetabout six months ago,
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  • I got a knock on the doorand my littlest son, Beckham,
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  • ran to the door, and hecomes back into the kitchen
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  • with this bouquet in his hands.
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  • And he says, "Thisis from Linda.
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  • "Linda said she was at thestore and she thought of you
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  • "and she just wanted togive you this bouquet."
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  • And I remember puttingit in my window.
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  • And all the sudden, I justremember the Holy Spirit
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  • saying to me, "You know,Havilah, you have won her over.
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  • "She has ears to hear you now."
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  • And it was such a testimony.
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  • Like nobody wouldunderstand what the flowers
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  • in the window meant.
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  • But to me, it was week afterweek, month after month.
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  • We would give her, sendher a Christmas gift.
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  • We'd knock on herdoor and make sure
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  • like during the firesthat she was safe.
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  • I just bought her amask, and so we just
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  • delivered it to herhouse yesterday, a mask,
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  • 'cause she was justdesperate for a mask
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  • so when she goes to the dogpark, she has something.
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  • And she's just becomea part of our family.
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  • And I am so, I don't know,I guess I'm just so moved
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  • by loving her unconditionally.
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  • And now she talksto me about God.
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  • She talks about what herfuture might look like.
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  • She hasn't made the decisionto follow Christ yet,
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  • but I know she's really close.
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  • And I know that we'vebeen a huge part of that
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  • by just relentlessly loving her
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  • and showing up in practical ways
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  • to say we love God and welove people really well,
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  • and you're part of our family.
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  • And so I don't knowabout you guys,
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  • but it seems like there'ssome really practical ways
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  • for us to love peoplewell during this season.
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  • - I completely agree, Hav.
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  • You know, I thinkthat when we encounter
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  • the radical love ofGod, we can't help
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  • but radically givethat to others.
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  • And if there's a disconnect,we, I'm gonna question it
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  • and say have we fully acceptedand received the love of God?
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  • Because when we receivethe love of God,
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  • we cannot help butgive the love of God.
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  • This week, we've beentalking about boldness.
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  • And what does it look liketo boldly share our faith?
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  • Hav, what I love about whatyou just said and your story
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  • is that you tookeveryday occurrences,
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  • everyday interactions, todemonstrate the words of God,
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  • to demonstrate the love of God.
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  • One of my favoritetheologians says,
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  • "To preach the gospel, andwhen necessary, use words."
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  • And sometimes when we talkabout sharing our faith,
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  • it might feel very intimidating,
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  • it might feel very overwhelming.
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  • We might feel ill-equippedor oh, I don't know the Bible
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  • or I don't know what this says.
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  • Hey, you know what?
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  • If you demonstratethe love of Christ,
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  • you are demonstrating thegospel in its truest forms.
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  • I think that as aBible communicator,as a church planter,
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  • as a leader within thechurch, I want to make people
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  • feel really comfortablewith sharing their faith.
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  • Revelations says,"The blood of the Lamb
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  • "and the word of our testimony."
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  • If we just tellpeople our story,
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  • if we just tell people aboutwhat God has done for us,
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  • hey, you know what, thatis sharing your faith
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  • and that, that simplelittle itty bitty act,
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  • is an act of faith.
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  • And we get to sow seeds.
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  • We get to plant seeds of faithinto the heart of people.
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  • Hav, you remindedme of a quick story
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  • of even justwitnessing to someone
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  • who is completely against Jesus.
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  • I think there was someonewe had growing up.
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  • My mom taught us nevershy away from the gospel
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  • even if it's just an act ofkindness or loving somebody.
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  • We had a neighbor who wasvery angry, very bitter,
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  • very upset anddidn't believe in God
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  • because of the painthat they encountered.
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  • And so my mom madeit our family act
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  • that we were gonna loveour neighbor really well.
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  • So we would drop off groceries,
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  • we would always say hello.
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  • The most crotchety oldlady you will ever meet.
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  • Havilah, your neighborprobably looks like an angel
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  • compared to our old neighbor.
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  • And we were in thathouse for nine years.
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  • And let me tell you, theday that we moved out,
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  • my mom went over and prayedfor our neighbor, Esther.
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  • And let me tell you something.
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  • Esther, after nine yearsof witnessing and kindness,
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  • Esther received Jesus as herpersonal Lord and savior.
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  • I think that when we justlove people like Christ,
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  • we get to demonstratethe gospel.
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  • - Yeah I loved 2Timothy 1:7-8 says,
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  • "For God has not given us aspirit of fear and timidity,
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  • "but of power, love,and self-discipline.
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  • "So never be ashamed totell others about our Lord."
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  • And just the way thatverse comes together,
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  • those verses cometogether reminds me
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  • that maybe the oppositeof sharing God's love
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  • is hiding or keepingthings inside
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  • out of fear and timidity.
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  • But the other part of thatis what are the components
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  • of actually telling peopleabout the love of God?
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  • Power, love, andself-discipline,
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  • and expecting thatin sharing love,
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  • you're going to need thepower of the Holy Spirit
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  • because sharing God's love,
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  • that is actually thefruit of the Spirit.
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  • So it's going to comefrom above, first of all.
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  • But then love thatGod has given us love.
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  • And I agree with youwholeheartedly, Bianca.
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  • If we're having a hardtime giving that love out,
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  • it's probably because wehave not yet received it.
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  • Because in receiving it,it has to spill over.
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  • But then the one that I reallylove is self-discipline.
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  • And there's something to that.
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  • This season, the Lordhas, this pandemic season,
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  • the Lord has really taught mea lot about self-discipline
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  • and really keepingthe disciplines
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  • that are healthy for life.
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  • And some of them I'vedone pretty well on,
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  • others not so much, you know.
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  • I've had way too many brownies.
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  • But I have gotten in the Wordevery morning, you understand?
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  • Okay, and the reality is this.
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  • As I go to be disciplinedand have self-discipline
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  • and study the Wordevery morning,
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  • literally the washingof the water of the Word
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  • or go to be in thepresence of the Lord
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  • so that I'm beholding his face
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  • and being transformedfrom glory to glory.
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  • It is easier to share God's love
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  • because I look more like himhaving spent time with him.
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  • And so that power and thatlove and that self-discipline,
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  • we often call it a soundmind, but it's also
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  • translated as self-discipline,just this idea
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  • that sometimes sharing God'slove starts all the way back
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  • when there's justdew on the grass
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  • and it's just yourtime with the Lord.
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  • And you have to get charged up
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  • so that when you are squeezed,
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  • because we will be squeezed,life will squeeze out of you
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  • what's in there, right?
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  • When we are squeezed,what comes out
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  • is the fruit of the Spirit
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  • and not the fruitof our personalities
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  • or the fruit of our trauma
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  • or the fruit ofour circumstances.
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  • But pouring in the Word,getting into the presence
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  • of the Lord, whenwe're squeezed,
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  • what actually comes outis fruit of the Spirit,
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  • is this love boldly that wedon't have to be ashamed of.
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  • And I love that the Wordjust in that little nutshell
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  • gives us so many practical tips
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  • as to how to actuallydo it, you know?
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  • - Yeah, that's beautiful.
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  • It's so much, we talked aboutit on a past episode, too,
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  • not just hearers of the Wordbut doers of the Word, as well.
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  • And I found especiallyin this pandemic time,
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  • there have been a lotof different words
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  • coming out from a lotof different camps
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  • and a lot of voiceswho I praise God
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  • for the way that hisSpirit has been speaking
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  • through so many, and Ipray that he would pour out
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  • a spirit of discernmentover us all.
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  • But a lot of the messagingabout very self-protective,
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  • store up, bestockpiling, pack away.
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  • And I was just in the presenceof the Lord the other day.
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  • And he spoke, "No, no, no,it is a season of release.
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  • "Release, tangibly livemy gospel by releasing
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  • "what you have to providefor those who have need."
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  • And this'll make everyonewatching uncomfortable,
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  • but that lookslike our finances.
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  • That looks like not just saying,
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  • "Hey, you can'tmake rent this month
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  • "even though you're a singlemom with multiple kids.
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  • "I will pray for you."
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  • It's saying how can Ishift everything I know
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  • to pay your rent this month?
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  • It is not just stockpilingour own pantry.
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  • It's saying who can Iserve and provide for
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  • and take groceries to?
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  • It is such a seasonwhere I believe
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  • those with ears tohear are actually
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  • becoming looserand looser gripped
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  • on the things of this world.
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  • And he is shifting release.
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  • And this is wherethe love of God,
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  • they will know us by our love.
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  • This is where to me,it becomes so radical.
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  • When we start emptyingsavings accounts
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  • to serve our brother, when westart shifting our comforts
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  • to help other inan hour of need,
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  • these are the thingsthat nonbelievers
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  • or that woundedbelievers, or maybe even
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  • the lukewarms start to say what?
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  • Like it doesn't make sense.
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  • But this is the beautyof a sifting season
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  • and I believe a refiningseason over the church as well
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  • as he is really saying whoare the doers of my Word?
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  • And know that I'msovereign and faithful,
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  • but love witheverything you have.
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  • And let it put your handsand your feet in motion
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  • and your bank account in motionand your groceries in motion
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  • and whatever it may be.
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  • - I love that.
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  • The word "do", I'vedone a little research,
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  • in the Greek, it meansto creatively find ways.
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  • And I just love that thought.
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  • Like if we're gonna do the Word,
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  • it means to creativelyfind ways to do love
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  • around the world, right?
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  • To do love in our everyday life.
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  • I just got a text frommy dad the other day.
  • 00:11:19.125 --> 00:11:21.660
  • And their gym just opened up.
  • 00:11:21.660 --> 00:11:24.463
  • And he said, "I wasin the locker room
  • 00:11:24.463 --> 00:11:27.433
  • "and I saw this elderly manand he was sitting on a bench.
  • 00:11:27.433 --> 00:11:31.170
  • "And when I walkedby, the Holy Spirit
  • 00:11:31.170 --> 00:11:33.305
  • "nudged me to go talk to him."
  • 00:11:33.305 --> 00:11:35.274
  • And he said, "I decided Iwould listen to the Holy Spirit
  • 00:11:35.274 --> 00:11:39.111
  • "and I walked over the him.
  • 00:11:39.111 --> 00:11:41.013
  • "And I began to talk to him."
  • 00:11:41.013 --> 00:11:42.548
  • And he said, "And I beganto share Jesus with this man
  • 00:11:42.548 --> 00:11:45.951
  • "and asked him ifhe knew when he died
  • 00:11:45.951 --> 00:11:47.787
  • "where he would end up."
  • 00:11:47.787 --> 00:11:49.421
  • And the man saidthat he didn't know,
  • 00:11:49.421 --> 00:11:51.390
  • but that he would like topray the prayer of salvation.
  • 00:11:51.390 --> 00:11:53.793
  • So my dad led this oldergentleman to the Lord
  • 00:11:53.793 --> 00:11:56.495
  • last week in the lockerroom in his towel.
  • 00:11:56.495 --> 00:12:00.399
  • And they're praying together.
  • 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:01.901
  • He's 93 years old, didn'tknow where he was gonna go.
  • 00:12:01.901 --> 00:12:06.105
  • And he leads him to the Lord.
  • 00:12:06.105 --> 00:12:07.873
  • And the cherry on the top wasthat my dad's name is Francis
  • 00:12:07.873 --> 00:12:11.277
  • and he said the gentleman'sname was named Francis.
  • 00:12:11.277 --> 00:12:13.979
  • And you see them both armin arm in this locker room.
  • 00:12:13.979 --> 00:12:17.917
  • And he said here he's 93 yearsold, his name is Francis,
  • 00:12:17.917 --> 00:12:20.953
  • my name is Francis,and now he knows
  • 00:12:20.953 --> 00:12:23.222
  • where he's gonnaend up for eternity.
  • 00:12:23.222 --> 00:12:25.257
  • And they're both just smiling.
  • 00:12:25.257 --> 00:12:26.759
  • And I just think aboutthis invitation we have
  • 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.829
  • in the season of this pandemicand this culture, you know?
  • 00:12:29.829 --> 00:12:33.399
  • We are allowed with thevulnerability of our community
  • 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:38.404
  • to ask people where do theybelieve they're going to be.
  • 00:12:39.872 --> 00:12:41.240
  • And how can we showthem practical love
  • 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.142
  • by giving them aninvitation to eternity?
  • 00:12:43.142 --> 00:12:47.546
  • And I have just beenfinding that, I don't know
  • 00:12:47.546 --> 00:12:49.515
  • about you guys, but you know,I haven't been traveling
  • 00:12:49.515 --> 00:12:52.117
  • very often, but the twoplaces that I have gone,
  • 00:12:52.117 --> 00:12:55.054
  • I've been speaking tothe American church.
  • 00:12:55.054 --> 00:12:57.156
  • And we get, I get totravel to different places
  • 00:12:57.156 --> 00:12:59.391
  • around the world and teachdifferent communities.
  • 00:12:59.391 --> 00:13:01.594
  • And the Americanchurch is unique.
  • 00:13:01.594 --> 00:13:03.662
  • And I'm an Americanand I'm a Californian,
  • 00:13:03.662 --> 00:13:05.531
  • so I kinda feel like Ihave this right to judge us
  • 00:13:05.531 --> 00:13:08.801
  • maybe a little bit andsay you guys, come on.
  • 00:13:08.801 --> 00:13:11.670
  • But I just found thisvulnerability in the church
  • 00:13:11.670 --> 00:13:16.175
  • that I have not felt ina long time, almost ever.
  • 00:13:16.175 --> 00:13:20.012
  • I fel this softnesstoward needing God,
  • 00:13:20.012 --> 00:13:23.782
  • toward needing true, thetrue gospel in our midst.
  • 00:13:23.782 --> 00:13:28.320
  • And I don't knowabout you, Bianca.
  • 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:29.855
  • I know you started churchand you're communicating.
  • 00:13:29.855 --> 00:13:31.123
  • But are you sensing adifference in people?
  • 00:13:31.123 --> 00:13:33.759
  • And is there moreof a practical way
  • 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.394
  • that we're seeingpeople respond to God?
  • 00:13:35.394 --> 00:13:37.630
  • - You know what, Hav, I lovethis conversation so much
  • 00:13:38.497 --> 00:13:41.300
  • because I cannot cosign onwhat you just said any more.
  • 00:13:41.300 --> 00:13:44.770
  • And it's not just froma little bit of travel
  • 00:13:44.770 --> 00:13:46.839
  • that I'm doing nowthat the restrictions
  • 00:13:46.839 --> 00:13:48.440
  • and bans are lifting, but evenin just localized community.
  • 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.443
  • Whether it's politicalunrest, whether it's the stuff
  • 00:13:51.443 --> 00:13:54.680
  • that's going onaround the globe,
  • 00:13:54.680 --> 00:13:56.181
  • whether it's the pandemic,people are hungry for truth
  • 00:13:56.181 --> 00:13:59.418
  • and people are hungryfor answers right now.
  • 00:13:59.418 --> 00:14:01.754
  • And I think that ifwe just take that step
  • 00:14:01.754 --> 00:14:04.623
  • of brazen boldness, if wejust know we are empowered
  • 00:14:04.623 --> 00:14:09.028
  • with the same spiritthat resurrectedJesus from the grave,
  • 00:14:09.028 --> 00:14:12.298
  • that same spirit is gonnagive us the words to say
  • 00:14:12.298 --> 00:14:14.934
  • when we don't know what to say.
  • 00:14:14.934 --> 00:14:16.468
  • Is sharing our faithsometimes intimidating?
  • 00:14:16.468 --> 00:14:19.338
  • Yes.
  • 00:14:19.338 --> 00:14:20.539
  • Is sharing our faithsometimes uncomfortable?
  • 00:14:20.539 --> 00:14:22.274
  • Yes.
  • 00:14:22.274 --> 00:14:23.108
  • But you know what?
  • 00:14:23.108 --> 00:14:24.310
  • If we truly believethat we have the truth,
  • 00:14:24.310 --> 00:14:26.011
  • the capital T Truth, ifwe believe that Jesus
  • 00:14:26.011 --> 00:14:29.848
  • is the resurrector of life,that Jesus is the resurrector
  • 00:14:29.848 --> 00:14:32.418
  • of dry bones, if Jesus isthe promiser of a future,
  • 00:14:32.418 --> 00:14:35.587
  • a better future, why wouldwe keep that to ourselves?
  • 00:14:35.587 --> 00:14:39.692
  • If we firmly believethat we have the answer,
  • 00:14:39.692 --> 00:14:42.561
  • if we believe thatwe have the remedy,
  • 00:14:42.561 --> 00:14:44.330
  • if we believe thatwe have a conviction
  • 00:14:44.330 --> 00:14:46.198
  • that God is who hesays he is and can do
  • 00:14:46.198 --> 00:14:48.500
  • what he says he can do, whywould we keep that to ourselves?
  • 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:52.271
  • And for some people,they have an extra dose
  • 00:14:52.271 --> 00:14:55.541
  • of the Holy Ghostand they can brazenly
  • 00:14:55.541 --> 00:14:57.276
  • be evangelical all the time.
  • 00:14:57.276 --> 00:14:59.345
  • I'm not that person yet.
  • 00:14:59.345 --> 00:15:01.180
  • But I'm believing thatthrough regular conversations,
  • 00:15:01.180 --> 00:15:04.216
  • I'm planting seeds.
  • 00:15:04.216 --> 00:15:05.484
  • My husband and I goto a local restaurant.
  • 00:15:05.484 --> 00:15:07.319
  • And the first time I wentthere, the restaurant was full
  • 00:15:07.319 --> 00:15:09.922
  • so they sat us in the bar.
  • 00:15:09.922 --> 00:15:11.123
  • And there was agirl behind the bar
  • 00:15:11.123 --> 00:15:13.025
  • that was serving us our meal.
  • 00:15:13.025 --> 00:15:14.493
  • And there wassomething about her
  • 00:15:14.493 --> 00:15:16.328
  • that just clicked in my soul.
  • 00:15:16.328 --> 00:15:17.896
  • And so I told her aswe were heading out,
  • 00:15:17.896 --> 00:15:19.732
  • I said, "I pray you're well,I'm gonna pray for you,
  • 00:15:19.732 --> 00:15:21.500
  • "you know, hopeyou're doing well."
  • 00:15:21.500 --> 00:15:22.501
  • That was it.
  • 00:15:22.501 --> 00:15:23.736
  • I didn't tell her whatI did and then tell her
  • 00:15:23.736 --> 00:15:25.471
  • who my husband and I, thatwe have a local church.
  • 00:15:25.471 --> 00:15:26.839
  • We didn't tell herany of that stuff.
  • 00:15:26.839 --> 00:15:28.040
  • But the next time wewent to the restaurant,
  • 00:15:28.040 --> 00:15:29.541
  • I said, "Hey, it's so funnythat I'm seeing you again.
  • 00:15:29.541 --> 00:15:31.744
  • "I've been praying for you.
  • 00:15:31.744 --> 00:15:32.578
  • "Is your family okay?"
  • 00:15:32.578 --> 00:15:34.046
  • 'Cause the spirit of God'simpressed on my heart
  • 00:15:34.046 --> 00:15:35.914
  • to pray for her family.
  • 00:15:35.914 --> 00:15:37.182
  • I didn't even know her name.
  • 00:15:37.182 --> 00:15:38.617
  • So she said, "Oh it'sfunny, you know, my family,
  • 00:15:38.617 --> 00:15:41.186
  • "we're wrestling with COVID.
  • 00:15:41.186 --> 00:15:42.755
  • "They're in London, and sobecause of the quarantine,
  • 00:15:42.755 --> 00:15:44.957
  • "I haven't beenable to see them."
  • 00:15:44.957 --> 00:15:46.458
  • And I said, "I'm committingto pray for your family."
  • 00:15:46.458 --> 00:15:48.193
  • She said, "Thank you so much."
  • 00:15:48.193 --> 00:15:49.128
  • I asked her for her name.
  • 00:15:49.128 --> 00:15:50.362
  • The next time Iwent back, I said,
  • 00:15:50.362 --> 00:15:51.563
  • "Hey, we'd love to haveyou come to church.
  • 00:15:51.563 --> 00:15:53.399
  • "Our church isn'tmeeting right now,"
  • 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:55.067
  • but I didn't tell her Mattand I were the leaders.
  • 00:15:55.067 --> 00:15:58.003
  • But I gave her an invitationto church, and guess what?
  • 00:15:58.003 --> 00:16:00.806
  • She reached out viasocial media and said,
  • 00:16:00.806 --> 00:16:03.509
  • "I've been watchingyour sermons."
  • 00:16:03.509 --> 00:16:05.310
  • I gave her my cellphone number.
  • 00:16:05.310 --> 00:16:06.779
  • I said, "If you need anythingduring this pandemic."
  • 00:16:06.779 --> 00:16:08.747
  • Well sure enough, lo and behold,
  • 00:16:08.747 --> 00:16:10.349
  • her brother passedaway because of COVID.
  • 00:16:10.349 --> 00:16:12.618
  • She reached out.
  • 00:16:12.618 --> 00:16:13.852
  • I was able to bringin the gospel message
  • 00:16:13.852 --> 00:16:15.454
  • in a way that I wouldnever be able to bring
  • 00:16:15.454 --> 00:16:18.057
  • had I not had a realrelationship with this girl,
  • 00:16:18.057 --> 00:16:20.459
  • had this girl knewthat I loved her.
  • 00:16:20.459 --> 00:16:22.061
  • I was not judging her, I wasnot judging her lifestyle,
  • 00:16:22.061 --> 00:16:24.730
  • I was not judging her choices.
  • 00:16:24.730 --> 00:16:26.031
  • I just simplywanted to love her.
  • 00:16:26.031 --> 00:16:27.933
  • Do you know that you canshare the truth of Jesus
  • 00:16:27.933 --> 00:16:30.636
  • when you just love someone?
  • 00:16:30.636 --> 00:16:32.237
  • And in the book ofLuke, we see that Jesus
  • 00:16:32.237 --> 00:16:34.540
  • was either going to dinner, ata dinner, or leaving dinner.
  • 00:16:34.540 --> 00:16:38.377
  • What does it look like foryou to open up the doors
  • 00:16:38.377 --> 00:16:40.312
  • of your heart or yourhome to have conversations
  • 00:16:40.312 --> 00:16:42.781
  • with people, to boldly sharethe truth of who Jesus is?
  • 00:16:42.781 --> 00:16:46.085
  • - It sounds like it'sa consistent decision.
  • 00:16:47.286 --> 00:16:49.321
  • You know what I mean?
  • 00:16:49.321 --> 00:16:50.522
  • Like that's what thatsounds like to me,
  • 00:16:50.522 --> 00:16:52.224
  • like you wereconsistently loving.
  • 00:16:52.224 --> 00:16:54.993
  • And I think that issomething that is,
  • 00:16:54.993 --> 00:16:58.564
  • in this day and age,that's difficult.
  • 00:16:58.564 --> 00:17:00.232
  • And honestly, especiallywith the type of jobs
  • 00:17:00.232 --> 00:17:03.569
  • that we tend to have,it's easier to let's say
  • 00:17:03.569 --> 00:17:07.773
  • be on a stage somehowremoved from people
  • 00:17:07.773 --> 00:17:10.542
  • in the audience and pourlove on them and then leave
  • 00:17:10.542 --> 00:17:13.779
  • and then go home, youknow what I'm saying?
  • 00:17:13.779 --> 00:17:16.482
  • But the reality is like you'regoing to this restaurant,
  • 00:17:16.482 --> 00:17:20.119
  • you're showing love forreal to a real person.
  • 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:23.322
  • And I love that because Ithink that is what it takes.
  • 00:17:23.322 --> 00:17:26.358
  • And when you were sayingthat, it just reminded me
  • 00:17:26.358 --> 00:17:29.128
  • that people, a lot of timesin sharing God's love,
  • 00:17:29.128 --> 00:17:32.531
  • we think it's abouthaving every answer.
  • 00:17:32.531 --> 00:17:35.868
  • But really, it's abouthaving the answer, Jesus.
  • 00:17:35.868 --> 00:17:38.837
  • And he's the answerto everything.
  • 00:17:38.837 --> 00:17:41.140
  • He's the way, thetruth, and the life.
  • 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:42.875
  • I just, he's been remindingme of that lately,
  • 00:17:42.875 --> 00:17:46.178
  • like hey, why don't you tellpeople about what I've done
  • 00:17:46.178 --> 00:17:49.581
  • for you in terms of howthey can understand it?
  • 00:17:49.581 --> 00:17:52.417
  • When you say you're praying,it's because you understand
  • 00:17:52.417 --> 00:17:54.920
  • what it means to beconcerned about a loved one.
  • 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:58.991
  • Like you can be vulnerableat the same time.
  • 00:17:58.991 --> 00:18:01.793
  • You can be humanin sharing my love.
  • 00:18:01.793 --> 00:18:04.096
  • And that's how you're goingto connect with people.
  • 00:18:04.096 --> 00:18:06.365
  • So you want to know howto share God's love?
  • 00:18:06.365 --> 00:18:08.066
  • Be a human and talk about whathis love has done for you.
  • 00:18:08.066 --> 00:18:11.336
  • You know what I'm saying?
  • 00:18:11.336 --> 00:18:12.971
  • And I think withthat consistency,people start to see,
  • 00:18:12.971 --> 00:18:16.308
  • like what's happening with youand your neighbor, Havilah,
  • 00:18:16.308 --> 00:18:19.912
  • or this woman in the restaurant.
  • 00:18:19.912 --> 00:18:22.014
  • People see over time thatyou're human who's been changed
  • 00:18:22.014 --> 00:18:26.618
  • by God's love, notwho has every answer,
  • 00:18:26.618 --> 00:18:30.055
  • but who has submittedto this God and his love
  • 00:18:30.055 --> 00:18:33.492
  • because it is life changing.
  • 00:18:33.492 --> 00:18:35.627
  • And I think that's what'sgonna make the difference.
  • 00:18:35.627 --> 00:18:38.597
  • Even, you know, I can'tremember who said it
  • 00:18:38.597 --> 00:18:40.566
  • about even apologizingto your kids.
  • 00:18:40.566 --> 00:18:42.501
  • Oh, Havilah, you said it,how you're the children
  • 00:18:42.501 --> 00:18:45.204
  • of minister parents andwhat made the difference
  • 00:18:45.204 --> 00:18:48.574
  • was that they lived areal life in front of you.
  • 00:18:48.574 --> 00:18:51.343
  • And I think that's gonnabe it, living real life
  • 00:18:51.343 --> 00:18:54.346
  • and talking about how God'slove actually intersects
  • 00:18:54.346 --> 00:18:58.217
  • with real life infront of people forthem to see, you know?
  • 00:18:58.217 --> 00:19:02.955
  • - It's so powerful, too.
  • 00:19:02.955 --> 00:19:05.390
  • We've really learned inparticular in this season
  • 00:19:05.390 --> 00:19:08.260
  • to speak to whatyou all are saying
  • 00:19:08.260 --> 00:19:09.695
  • of just that intimateinterpersonal relational love
  • 00:19:09.695 --> 00:19:13.932
  • that's different formspeaking on a stage over many.
  • 00:19:13.932 --> 00:19:16.501
  • It's actually doinglife with people.
  • 00:19:16.501 --> 00:19:18.737
  • And it's been so refreshing,because one thing that the Lord
  • 00:19:18.737 --> 00:19:22.574
  • really stirred and opened myeyes to in particular about
  • 00:19:22.574 --> 00:19:27.412
  • his great love for othersis that sort of opening up
  • 00:19:27.412 --> 00:19:31.416
  • of God, I just wantto be your vessel.
  • 00:19:31.416 --> 00:19:35.520
  • Like just a conduitfor your spirit
  • 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:38.223
  • and a conduit for your love.
  • 00:19:38.223 --> 00:19:39.791
  • And so truly, Lord, empty me.
  • 00:19:39.791 --> 00:19:42.027
  • Empty my thoughts,empty my offense,
  • 00:19:42.027 --> 00:19:44.129
  • empty how I even thinkthis person will receive it
  • 00:19:44.129 --> 00:19:48.567
  • or won't receive it or,just allow me, Lord,
  • 00:19:48.567 --> 00:19:51.770
  • to freely be the middle man.
  • 00:19:51.770 --> 00:19:53.405
  • And I remember we weresharing in our sort of
  • 00:19:53.405 --> 00:19:56.775
  • our home fellowship group.
  • 00:19:56.775 --> 00:19:58.844
  • And there was agentleman in the group
  • 00:19:58.844 --> 00:20:01.280
  • who I just love to death,my friend's husband,
  • 00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:03.482
  • and he was really in sortof a battle of the mind
  • 00:20:03.482 --> 00:20:07.619
  • trying to figure thingsout, trying for everything
  • 00:20:07.619 --> 00:20:10.622
  • to click in the flesh,lots of questions
  • 00:20:10.622 --> 00:20:12.024
  • and wanted a lot of the answers
  • 00:20:12.024 --> 00:20:14.259
  • that would helphim understand God.
  • 00:20:14.259 --> 00:20:16.028
  • And he's justincredibly intelligent.
  • 00:20:16.028 --> 00:20:18.764
  • And so that was the avenuethat he was pursuing God.
  • 00:20:18.764 --> 00:20:21.633
  • And I remember one day,just as we were gathered,
  • 00:20:21.633 --> 00:20:24.336
  • thinking, "Lord, what doyou have to say to him?
  • 00:20:24.336 --> 00:20:28.807
  • "Because there'sreally no words.
  • 00:20:28.807 --> 00:20:31.576
  • "He's very great with wordsand we've shared many.
  • 00:20:31.576 --> 00:20:34.579
  • "But what he needsis an encounter.
  • 00:20:34.579 --> 00:20:36.848
  • "He needs to experience you.
  • 00:20:36.848 --> 00:20:38.850
  • "He thinks it'shis mind that will,
  • 00:20:38.850 --> 00:20:41.987
  • "some answer will put him over
  • 00:20:41.987 --> 00:20:44.256
  • "to really truly believe.
  • 00:20:44.256 --> 00:20:45.590
  • "But actually, Lord, I believe
  • 00:20:45.590 --> 00:20:47.025
  • "that you want toencounter his heart.
  • 00:20:47.025 --> 00:20:49.161
  • "And so Lord, make me a conduit.
  • 00:20:49.161 --> 00:20:51.463
  • "What would you him hear?"
  • 00:20:51.463 --> 00:20:53.665
  • And y'all, when I tellyou one time gathering,
  • 00:20:53.665 --> 00:20:57.302
  • suddenly, thespirit of the Lord,
  • 00:20:57.302 --> 00:20:59.705
  • I don't even remember what wewere talking about or doing.
  • 00:20:59.705 --> 00:21:01.907
  • It was just overwhelming.
  • 00:21:01.907 --> 00:21:03.775
  • And began toprophesy to him about
  • 00:21:03.775 --> 00:21:06.411
  • some of his deepest woundsthat not even his wife
  • 00:21:06.411 --> 00:21:09.381
  • knew that he carried.
  • 00:21:09.381 --> 00:21:10.449
  • Certainly I didn't.
  • 00:21:10.449 --> 00:21:11.683
  • I didn't know any of this stuff.
  • 00:21:11.683 --> 00:21:13.952
  • And the Lord just began tospeak to some of his deepest,
  • 00:21:13.952 --> 00:21:17.022
  • most unspoken woundsand was just saying
  • 00:21:17.022 --> 00:21:19.491
  • to see rightly thathe was casting blame
  • 00:21:19.491 --> 00:21:23.495
  • and separatinghimself from the Lord
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  • because he thought that theLord was abusive in that way.
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  • And he was calling hisson to see rightly.
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  • And man, when I tell y'all
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  • it was one of themost powerful moves.
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  • And he ended upbaptized in the spirit,
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  • receiving the fullnessof the gospel.
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  • And it was so incrediblebecause it was like
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  • get me out of the way.
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  • If that was our heartposture, like just get me
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  • out of the way and usewhat do you have to say?
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  • People in our liveswill begin experiencing
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  • moves of God's love, notjust hearing about it
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  • or even like this theologicalunderstanding or this,
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  • but really God wantsto encounter people.
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  • And we get to bethe vessel for that.
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  • And so it's so exciting, too.
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  • When fear kinda grips, wecan step into the excitement
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  • of just use me as a tool, God,
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  • and do what you're going to do.
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  • And the fruit of that is soexciting, it's really cool.
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  • - It sounds like this wholeweek we've been talking
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  • about boldness, and what a gift
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  • to be talking with you ladies.
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  • It's like you haveso emboldened me
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  • just hearing your stories.
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  • And I know people at homeare thinking the same things.
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  • But it sounds like inthinking about the entire week
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  • that being bold isreally following the Lord
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  • in his boldness, youknow what I mean?
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  • Like it is as if ourLord has gone before us,
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  • which he has, and that's thebeautiful thing about this
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  • is that we get to stand up fully
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  • in who God says we are, notwho the world says we are,
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  • not who think we are,whether that's better than
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  • or less than, but standfully in the value
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  • of being made in him, his image,
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  • and our identitiesbeing in Christ
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  • and following him as he leadsus down the narrow path,
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  • whether it is going fromone job to another job
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  • or literally showing loveto somebody, a neighbor,
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  • and taking on loving them inways that are sacrificial.
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  • It is just followingthe Lord and doing that.
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  • So let's pray.
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  • So Lord, we thank you forall that you've shown us
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  • through your Word inthis conversation.
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  • And I just pray that foreveryone listening, God,
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  • that you would show themhow to be bold next.
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  • Like Havilah said, would youshow us what's right next,
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  • right in front ofus, what's next?
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  • How do we makechicken tonight, God?
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  • Very specifically, Lordshow us how to be bold
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  • in our next move for your glory,
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  • following in your footsteps.
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  • I pray for boldness and courage
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  • and even doing itscared if we have to.
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  • Be with everybodywatching, God, and lead us.
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  • In Jesus's name we pray, Amen.
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  • - Amen.
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  • You know, I have lovedlistening to everyone.
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  • talking about God's love is one
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  • of my favorite topicsin the whole world.
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  • Thinking about theapostles and Peter and John
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  • and all of them, you know, itwas when they were in prison
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  • for their faith, it waswhen they were in prison
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  • and they would start worshiping
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  • and the Holy Spirit would come.
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  • And it talks about how theybecame so bold in their faith.
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  • And the fear melted away.
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  • You know, whenChrist died for us,
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  • it's not that wecower in some corner.
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  • We become bold in the Lord.
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  • And when his Holy, whenthe Holy Spirit comes,
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  • we get filled with thatboldness to tell, to share,
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  • to show people God's love.
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  • And in that way, it empowersother people around us
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  • to become bold for Christ.
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  • And it is contagious,and that's what I pray
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  • for the kingdom ofGod, for those of us
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  • that are in the kingdom of God.
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  • Jesus loves you so much.
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  • And he wants us tobe bold and share,
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  • especially in thistime right now.
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  • Don't let anything stopyou from sharing God's love
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  • for people, showing God's love,
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  • and every way that is possible.
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  • We love you so muchhere on Better Together.
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  • And our community isalways here for you.
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  • You can connect withus on social media
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  • and let us know howwe can pray for you.
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  • Thanks for joiningall of us this week,
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  • these beautiful beautiful women.
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  • I love you with all my heart.
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  • We pray that these conversations
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  • help you choose to live boldly.
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  • And if you've missedany of the episodes,
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  • you can watch themat bettertogether.tv
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  • or on the TBN app.
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  • We will see you Monday.
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  • We love you, bye bye.
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  • (cheerful music)
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