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Better Together LIVE | Episode 137

November 3, 2020

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We’re talking about how to “agree to disagree” with your friends in love and grace. Join us! | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together LIVE | Episode 137

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- Although you maybe feeling like
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you're being pulled tothe right, or to the left,
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today on Better Together,
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we're talking abouttaking God's side.
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He commands us tolove one another,
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even if we're not amember of the same church,
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or political party, ordisagree on hot button issues.
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Come on, we needto talk about this
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because God's grace is theanswer to all conflict.
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(gentle music)
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- You know have youever had to learn
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to agree to disagree with afriend or a family member?
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(laughs)
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You know, I thinkabout every time,
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this season rolls around,
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in different families,there's conflict,
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different viewpoints,
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in different thingsthat we believe in.
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And I remember
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my dad had astrong political view
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that was verydifferent from my own.
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And we would disagree,and he was very dogmatic
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about the way that he felt,
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and he had his reasonsfor being that way.
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And he was forceful abouthis political affiliation
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and what he felt likethat we should support.
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But, I have found thatin all of that difficulty
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the best thing that I could do,
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would be respectfulof a different opinion
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that was different than mine.
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And, when there's conflict
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and you have to disagree, youcan disagree with respect.
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I think that's one ofthe greatest things that,
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we can give to one another.
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And there's tworeasons for that,
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to respect.
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Number one is I believethat every person,
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on this earth isworthy of respect.
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And number two, I believe that
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if I'm going toinfluence somebody, Ihave to respect them.
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And if I walk away from thetable out of disrespect,
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or I treat somebodydisrespectful
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because they don'tbelieve the way that I do,
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or they don't see thingsthe way that I do,
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then all I do is hurt my ability
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to influence them for good,
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and the good that I haveinside me to influence them
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is lost in that process.
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So, I believe that in seasons
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where we find ourselves inconflict with one another,
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and we don't see eye to eye,
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we can still love andrespect the other person.
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And by doing that,
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we have a place at the table
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to either be changedby their thought,
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or, to influence themwith our thought.
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But that's the only way I think
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that we get through the process
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and come out on theother side, feeling good
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about where we've been,and where we're going.
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- That's amazing.
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You know, you said,every person is worthy,
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and I was thinking,there's a story
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my dad always tells of,
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way back when Gateway started,
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my dad had juststarted the church
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and he had just acouple people on staff.
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And one day he went and said,
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"Hey guys, there'sa lady in the lobby
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that would really liketo receive prayer,
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and I'm not gonnatell you who she is,
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but I want you to knowshe's worth a lot."
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And so, you know, andso they just all like,
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just over lavishthemselves on this lady,
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just gave themtheir phone numbers,
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just was like, "We'll prayfor you anything you need."
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The lady walked outand they all said,
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"So who is she?
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How much is she worth?"
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And he said, "Thesame thing as you,
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the blood of the lamb."
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And every single one ofthem dropped everything,
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and it was like one ofthese like aha moments of,
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we are all worth the same.
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So yes, we're gonnadisagree on things.
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But part of our differencesis what makes us who we are,
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it makes us the body of Christ.
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We can learn from one another,
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we can grow from one another.
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And so, I am I'm young,
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but I'm not too oldto learn from anybody.
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And I'll learn from anybodybecause I'm ready to learn.
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And so, I think that's a heart
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that we carry respectand it to say,
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"Hey, I'm open to this,
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I'm open to learning."
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And I just love that if we were
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to follow the model of Jesus,
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it says his kindnessled them to repentance.
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And I just think thatkindness is the way
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that we can walk in this season.
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You know, and Ithink about my life,
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and I think about my momentwhere I met the Lord,
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it wasn't because hehad judged me and said,
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"Oh you are a sinner,sinner, sinner."
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Yeah, those wereall true statements.
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It wasn't because, you know,
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and when I turned Iwanted to find Jesus,
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who did I turn to?
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I turned to my familythat had been kind to me,
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through all of my loss,and through all of my junk.
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And I turned to thepeople that loved me,
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not the people thatcontinually told me,
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"You're wrong, you'rewrong, you're wrong."
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I turned to thepeople that were kind,
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and I think that'sthe reality of it.
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It's like, it was his kindnessthat led my heart to say,
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"I want to live a better way."
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And I think that's the reality,
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is there are some thingswhere, we disagree or some...
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And they might be true thingsthat are very, very important.
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But I think our kindness isgonna be where people turn.
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I think the personthey're gonna call
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when they're ready to change,
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is the person that'sbeen kind to them
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through the entire journey.
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That's loved them throughthe whole process,
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and that hasn't satthere and just said,
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"Let me correct youin everything you do."
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They said, "Let me loveyou in every way I can."
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And then I know that
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there might be a betterway, but one day you'll ask,
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"Hey, what's the better way?"
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I mean, that's themoment I'll speak it.
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That's the moment.I'll show you my story.
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I'll tell you, where I can.
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But I'm going to love you,
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I'm going to respect you,
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and I'm going to be kind to you,
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through the entire journey,as we walk this together,
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Because we're both a progress,
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we are in progressto the father,
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and that's where we are.
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So we're gonna restin the fact that,
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we are both in progress,
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I'm not better than you,we're worth the same.
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I love you, andI'll be kind to you,
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because we're on ajourney together.
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- Yeah, that is so good Elaine.
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I think if we justsee each other
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as brother and sisters inthe Lord, across the board,
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you know, I've got two boys,
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I don't love onemore than the other.
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They're all the same to me.
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I am going to help,
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I am going to be there for,
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I'm going to treat bothof them with as much love
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as I have in my heart.
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And I think that's how Godsees us, we're all the same.
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We're all on the same level.
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We all are indesperate need for God.
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We're all hypocritesbasically (laughs),
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and we all just needhim, our need for him.
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You know Jesus loves us so much,
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but he also ishere to change us.
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He's here to mold and to makeus, and we're all on that.
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And I love that Jesus wasalways of that gentle answer.
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He's meek and he's lowly.
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He's everything thatthe beatitudes is.
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What he preached,he embodied that.
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That humble meekand lowly of heart.
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And I think that lovetrumps being right,
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every single time,
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and I think that if we canjust show that respect,
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not always have to be right.
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Just love people,love never fails.
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And that's the thing Chrystal
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that I think we all havereally get good at right now,
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because it seems likeit's almost getting harder
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in this day and age, becauseI think we're, you know...
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The longer time goes, themore we're into the last days.
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So whatever your belief on that,
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I'm just saying that the longertime goes,(laughs), right?
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We're entering intothe end of days.
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And it says it'sgonna get worse.
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People are gonna belovers of themselves
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and lovers of money,
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and lovers of...
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And thinking that theirway is right every time,
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and it's gonnaprobably get harder,
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to walk in love in that grace.
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But if we just remember
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how much we need thatlove and grace from God,
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I think that's what makesus feel a little more free
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to give that loveand grace to others.
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- Yeah, and I thinkalso remembering that
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our love is not conditional,on whether or not we agree.
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Our love is not conditional
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on whether or not weeven really like you.
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It's kind of like,love is conditional,
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(laughs)
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on the mandate, thatGod gave us to do it.
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- [Laurie] Yeah.
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You know, in Romans12:18, the Bible says,
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"If possible, so faras it depends on you,
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be at peace with all men."
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But really there'sa lot of scriptures
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in that chapter of Romans 12,
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that talk abouttreating other people
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and how we should do that.
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Verse 10 says,
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"Be devoted to one anotherin brotherly love."
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Verse 20 says, "If yourenemy is hungry, feed them."
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There's a lot ofpractical scriptures here.
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"Don't pay back evil forevil," verse 17 says.
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Verse nine, "Let lovebe without hypocrisy."
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And this whole ideais based in Romans 12,
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where it's saying,"Hey, we're different.
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we're different, we don'tall have the same gifts.
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We don't all have the same mind,
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but what is key is that,
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just like Christ loved uswhen we weren't on his page,
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he wants us to love other people
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whether or notthey're on our page."
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And that can be communicated
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in how we discusswhat we disagree on.
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It's not just that,you can just show love
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and, you know, bringsomebody something to eat,
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but then you're gonna, youknow, have a knock down drag out
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on some point ofdifference that you have
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in terms of philosophyof politics or religion,
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or anything else.
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It's that I show you Ilove you across the board,
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which is if I don'tagree with you,
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I can communicatethat to you in a way,
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where my difference of opinion
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is still communicatedin a loving way.
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And I have to tell youin this season of 2020,
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because it's an election year,
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there have been alot of conversations,
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where I'm just looking at people
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that I know are believers,
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and I'm just like,
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"For real, is thathow gonna come to me?"
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You know, just comeand I'm even...
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And I try to be sweet, Itry to be nice but you know,
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even sometimes peoplewill slide into my demons,
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and they'll say things to me.
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And my thing is, Irespect your opinion,
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but you don't have tocome at me like that.
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And I feel like, especiallyif we're believers,
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and I think that'sa big key of our...
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A big mark of us loving Jesus,
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is how we showlove to each other,
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and do that in the waythat we communicate.
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You know, I don't thinkwe have to all agree,
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I do think that we all allneed to speak and act in love,
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and the Bible tellsus to do that.
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And here's what Ihave to remind myself,
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in seasons where me and myhusband and I don't agree,
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my adult children,that's a whole thing.
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They don't agree with me.
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You know?
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(laughs)
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I mean, you know, and thenI have to look at the Bible
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and it says, you know,
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the last verse in thatchapter it says...
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This is next to the last.
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"If your enemy ishungry, feed him.
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If your enemy is hungry,give them a drink."
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And the way to effectivelyminister to somebody else,
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is by doing whatever you'regonna do, with kindness.
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Kindness and love.
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And so I think in thisseason, at least for me,
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that's the thing to remember.
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Is I can look at you, andshake my head and say,
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"I don't think so."
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(laughs)
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But I can do it with a smilewithout ripping your head off.
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And I think, you know,that's a big part for me
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of not only watchingmy communication
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and being a believer,
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but also it's a point forme in watching my friends
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and the people that I'm incommunity with that, you know,
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that I can applaud themfor how they responded.
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Or say, "Girl listen,
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I know that they were wrong,
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but, you know theway you came at them,
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that really wasn't right."
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And I think that we needto look at each other
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in this season particularly,
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and remind each other,that all of these things,
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but out of the greatest ofthese things, it's love,
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it's love.
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- I love how yousaid that so well.
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No matter what you do,
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do it in kindness and love.
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Like you do what you gotta do,
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but there is aJesus way to do it.
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And I love that you said that.
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One of my favoritethings about Jesus,
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is that he did not haveto agree with somebody
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to hang out with them,or to eat with them.
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He was constantly saying,
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"Hey you, I'm goingto your house.
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You don't agree withme, but we're gonna eat.
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You don't like me,but we're gonna hang.
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Hey, you I'm gettinginto your boat.
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You, you're leaving your boat."
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Like he was constantlyhanging out with people
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that didn't agree with him,
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and he was having all theserelationships with people,
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who did not see theworld the same way
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that he saw the world.
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And so, I think aboutthat a lot this year,
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when I see how other Christiansspeak to other Christians.
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And when I see how peoplespeak to other people,
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man, if the Bible tells us,
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if Jesus says,"Love your enemies,"
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then we must show respect,
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at the very least to peoplewe merely disagreed with.
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Like if we are commandedto love our enemies,
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then why are we havingtrouble loving people
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that just have variedopinions from us?
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And I don't know whoseexample we are following,
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but it is certainly not theexample of Jesus Christ.
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Because JesusChrist did not say,
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"Hey, if you disagree withme, get out of my way.
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If you disagree with me,you can leave the room.
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If you disagree with me,click that unfollow button."
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He didn't.
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He said, "Let'shave a conversation.
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Let's have a relationship."
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How are we going to reach aworld that we don't even like?
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How are we going toshow the love of Jesus
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to a world that wedon't even wanna know?
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What is the plan?
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And I'm nervous that there is...
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- The world thatdoesn't know Jesus,
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that is looking at us Christians
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and how we talk to each other
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and how we speak to each other.
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And we're saying, come join us.
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Isn't this great?
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Don't you wannabe a part of this?
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They want to see thetruth about Jesus
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which would be thelove and kindness
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and welcoming of Jesus Christ.
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So that is my hope for us,
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that whatever we do,whatever we feel called to do
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that we're doing itin the Jesus way.
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Welcoming, inviting
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saying it in love
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speaking in love, speakingin kindness and saying
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hey, you don't agree with me?
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We're still gonna havea meal together and talk
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and have a relationship.
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Hey, you don't like me?
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- Right.
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- We're still gonnaget to know each other.
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We have to know the worldthat we want to reach.
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So hopefully we canshow the love of Jesus
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- Hosanna, that's really good.
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I think about the seasonthat we're in right now.
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And I think that everythingfeels so out of control
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and people want asense of control
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and when thingsare out of control,
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then we become fearful.
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Well the oppositeof love is not hate.
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The opposite of love is fear.
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And so what we can do aschildren of the most high
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is to love people.
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You know, love neverfails. It doesn't.
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Sometimes love is hard becauseyou don't feel very loving.
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But the greatest test of grace
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is to love somebodyand to give them grace
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when they don't evenknow that they need it.
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Instead you'd like totell them a thing or two,
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but that doesn't work.
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And it goes back again to
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how am I going to influencepeople towards the message
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and the hope of Christ?
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And you can only influence them
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if you've got arelationship with them,
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if you're at thetable with them.
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So you say, I will havegrace for an individual.
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I will love this individualbecause basically
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they are perhapsmaybe hateful or
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full of strife and stress.
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How do I help alleviate that?
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I think oftentimes we needto go into a situation
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and look at how we candiffuse the atmosphere.
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You know, again, I'm sucha believer in atmosphere
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and we're in an atmospherethat feels uncertain
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and we feel out of control.
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So how do we createan atmosphere
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that brings peaceinto the situation.
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That makes people feelthey're loved in spite of
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with their opinion or inspite of what we think
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and how they should believe,or how they should think
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or how they shouldexpress themselves
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or if they've expressedthemselves way too much
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for our comfort, we canstill love those people.
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Love never fails.
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And I think that'skind of a thing
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that we've gotgoing through here.
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But love will cast out fear.
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If you love an individual
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you can push back thefear that they're feeling
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and their out of controland it's that they feel.
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So I say love, love, love,
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love till it hurts.
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Love till it's, you know it'sinconvenient you keep loving
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and then God steps inand he does the miracle
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of bringing the relationships
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to where they need to be.
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- Beautiful.- That is true.
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I realized that I givewhat I have overflow of.
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You know we've talked about
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taking inventoryof our heart space.
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So I realized that it'shard for me to give grace
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when I don't remember howmuch grace I've received.
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And so I think inthis season too
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it's a season wherewe're reminding ourselves
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who we are and what God hasdone for us and how he loves us
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and he cares for us.
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And so I thinkthis is a moment to
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this is me personally, okay.
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Just in the lastcouple of weeks,
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I was texting andtalking to my husband
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and I was kinda ventingabout what was going on.
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I was venting about my season.
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I was venting about life.
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I was venting that I thoughtsomebody got promoted
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more than they should have.
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And maybe I should be there
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and all the differentthings, right.
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And I was judging them.
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And my husband justso sweetly asked
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why do you feel like youcan judge the situation?
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And I just satthere for a moment.
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And then I satback just a thought
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and I said becausesomewhere along the line,
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I thought I'm God.
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And I have the rightto judge this moment.
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And it just rockedmy world to realize
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I cannot believe I everput myself in that spot.
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And so I think I'vebeen in this journey
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when I feel like I needto prove something to you.
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I need to teach you something.
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I need to show you something
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there's a betterway and I know it.
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And I get this realcocky, prideful attitude.
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I sat back and I ask myself
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did I put myself in a place that
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I'm actually notworthy to be in?
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I'm not God, I'm not theone to judge this situation.
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I'm not the one todetermine the right or wrong
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of this moment orthat person's heart
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or where they should beor where they shouldn't be
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or what they should believeor what they shouldn't believe
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how far along in theirjourney they should be.
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I'm not that person,I'm called to love.
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I'm called to make disciples.
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I called to lean in
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and recruit them tothe love of the Father
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not to prove thembetter or wrong.
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And I think that's beenthis huge thing in my heart.
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And this is me walkingthrough this journey.
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I'm not past this.
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This is me everyday saying
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man, you feel veryprideful in that.
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Do you need to relieve yourselfof a role that is not yours?
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Because if I will says, donot judge lest you be judged.
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The Bible says youare not in that place.
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And so for me, I'vehad to humble my heart.
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I've had to humble my mind
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and say no, Iremember where I was
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and how God saved me
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and the grace thatI've received.
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And so with, Iremember that grace
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and I remember the lovethat was extended to me.
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Then I can give it to you
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because I know we'reon a journey together.
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And I am not anymore worthy than you
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to even put myself ina place to judge you
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or to tell you where youshould be in your journey
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or what you should believe.
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Because I know God is faithfulto meet you where you are
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because he wasfaithful to meet me
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every single day where I am.
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- Right. You know, and Ithink that's so good Elaine.
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That God changes thehearts of minds in men.
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And I love thescripture that says
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to pursue peace, itmeans go after peace.
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So when you're ina hot button topic
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or whatever you're talkingto someone that you don't
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you can either dropit in love and go on
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stop talking about it.
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Just shut it off and stop.
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But to pursue peace.
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And the scripture actually says
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let us therefore pursue peace
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in the things whichmake for peace
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and the thingsthat make for peace
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and the things by whichone may edify each other.
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So even if you're disagreeing
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you need to find somethingthat you can, that edify.
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You know, a lot oftimes, even with our kids
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this is just the thought.
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When your children are
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out of control or being ugly,
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and you're tryingto settle them down.
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I don't know crystal, ifyou've ever had to do this
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but sometimes youjust have to stop,
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reset for a secondand then just go,
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you know what? You are so good.
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I remember one day, I'lltell just a little story.
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I was railing at mylittle two year old
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for riding on a bunch ofreally important papers.
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He would alwaysjust pick up his pen
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and any paper hewould see on the desk
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he would just start drawingthese amazing little art pieces.
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And he had grabbed some ofdaddy's important papers one day
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and he's just writing them.
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And I was like,Cody, what the heck?
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What are you doing?
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And I just start intomy mommy thing, you know
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and he's just sittingthere looking at me
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and he's in this little onesie
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and he's sitting there justlooking at me, just let me rail.
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And finally he starts going
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you
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you.
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And I'm finally what?
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He goes, you are areally good teacher.
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And I think sometimeswe just have to stop
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and see something that God hasput on the inside of somebody
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and go you knowwhat? You are so good
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at trying to find the truthand going after truth.
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And I admire thatin you, you know
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and maybe bless your enemies.
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Those are people.
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Not necessarily, you'renot necessarily my enemy.
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You might consider me an enemy.
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So Jesus just says to blessyour enemies, to pray for them.
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I think the first thing Crystal
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that happens when you startpraying for your enemies
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is I think that the first thingthat comes to them is truth.
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Light on the subject,truth from God
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for blessing those thatmight not agree with you.
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And you know what I think
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we all need to laydown our opinions
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and all need to gainthe mind of Christ.
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And maybe we would stop lashingout so hard at one another.
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Maybe we did. I don'tknow, just a suggestion.
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- Well you know, I thinkyou were asking Lori
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if I've ever had tosplit the kids up.
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I mean, yes, thereare five of them
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so I get to do that quite often.
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(laughs)
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But you know, one ofthe things I will say,
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there's one of mychildren in particular,
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that is when he gets worked up
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you know, it's awhole situation.
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And so I just say, youknow, go to your room
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you just get yourself together.
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And he hates that.
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He doesn't wanna be alone.
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He starts saying, Ican do it. I can do it.
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I can get myself together.
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I'm like go to your roomand get yourself together.
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Like, there is a certaincontrol of faculty
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that you are learningand that's okay.
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So take a minute.
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And because if you can'tthink of anything good to say
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and you've got to learnnot to say anything at all
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because if you are here
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in the midst of everybody else,
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not seeking peaceand being intentional
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about choosing your words
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and looking forsomething to get into say
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then everything elsethat you're saying
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its stirring upanimosity instead.
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And that's not Jean likeyou were talking about
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earlier this week
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that's not the atmospherethat we want here.
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And so often it'sa matter of faculty
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and we understand whenwe're teaching our children
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that they have to learn control.
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Well as an adult we mayneed to learn control
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and to use choice words.
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Pursuing peace andwalking in kindness means
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watching our tongues.
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Power life and death(indistinct) tells us
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that power of life anddeath is in your tongue.
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So what you say really matters
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and how you say it canframe the atmosphere.
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Almost every morningI turn on music,
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it may be radio, it maybe (indistinct) or spotify
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sometimes it's YouTube.
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And I just want my home flooded
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with a certain atmosphere.
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And my kids are like why dohave to listen to that everyday?
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And I'm like, if its notfor you honey, its for me.
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So I can operate undera certain faculty today
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and remind myself that Iget to life into your day.
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I need life pouring to me.
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Like you said Iwill be able to give
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what I have an overflow of.
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And I just think Hossana thatsome of our viewers today
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could use prayer in this arena
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of a praying of justwalking in peace and love.
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Would you pray forour viewers today?
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- I'd love that.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Jesus, we just pray thatwe will follow your example
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on how to love people.
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Would you help us fight forpeople and not against people.
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Would you help us seeyour truths in your way
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with compassion,love, understandingwith hears to hear.
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Ultimately we wannashow your love
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not our agenda.
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Ultimately we wannashow your ways, not ours
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so I just pray thatyou remind us everyday
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that we represent you.
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That you will giveus ideas every day
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of how to speak yourtruths in your ways
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to the people right next to us.
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And we just pray thatwe would be a church
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that represents you andyour love really well.
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Help us to expose thetruth of who you are
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and how we speak to people,in the name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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- Amen.- Amen
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- Amen.
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A quiet and gentle spirit.
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Thank you for joining us.
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If you have a prayer request
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please connect withus on social media.
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Our Better Togethercommunity is always praying
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and is ready to standin agreement with you.
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Tomorrow on Better Togetherwe'll be talking about
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how God has alreadywon the race for us.
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His truth will prevail
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and help us filter out allthe other noise of this world.
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We'll see you then, we love you.
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Bye-bye.
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(gentle music)
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