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Better Together LIVE | Episode 137

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November 3, 2020
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We’re talking about how to “agree to disagree” with your friends in love and grace. Join us! | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together LIVE | Episode 137

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  • - Although you maybe feeling like
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  • you're being pulled tothe right, or to the left,
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  • today on Better Together,
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  • we're talking abouttaking God's side.
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  • He commands us tolove one another,
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  • even if we're not amember of the same church,
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  • or political party, ordisagree on hot button issues.
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  • Come on, we needto talk about this
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  • because God's grace is theanswer to all conflict.
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  • (gentle music)
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  • - You know have youever had to learn
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  • to agree to disagree with afriend or a family member?
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  • (laughs)
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  • You know, I thinkabout every time,
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  • this season rolls around,
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  • in different families,there's conflict,
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  • different viewpoints,
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  • in different thingsthat we believe in.
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  • And I remember
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  • my dad had astrong political view
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  • that was verydifferent from my own.
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  • And we would disagree,and he was very dogmatic
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  • about the way that he felt,
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  • and he had his reasonsfor being that way.
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  • And he was forceful abouthis political affiliation
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  • and what he felt likethat we should support.
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  • But, I have found thatin all of that difficulty
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  • the best thing that I could do,
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  • would be respectfulof a different opinion
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  • that was different than mine.
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  • And, when there's conflict
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  • and you have to disagree, youcan disagree with respect.
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  • I think that's one ofthe greatest things that,
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  • we can give to one another.
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  • And there's tworeasons for that,
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  • to respect.
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  • Number one is I believethat every person,
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  • on this earth isworthy of respect.
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  • And number two, I believe that
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  • if I'm going toinfluence somebody, Ihave to respect them.
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  • And if I walk away from thetable out of disrespect,
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  • or I treat somebodydisrespectful
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  • because they don'tbelieve the way that I do,
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  • or they don't see thingsthe way that I do,
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  • then all I do is hurt my ability
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  • to influence them for good,
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  • and the good that I haveinside me to influence them
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  • is lost in that process.
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  • So, I believe that in seasons
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  • where we find ourselves inconflict with one another,
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  • and we don't see eye to eye,
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  • we can still love andrespect the other person.
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  • And by doing that,
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  • we have a place at the table
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  • to either be changedby their thought,
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  • or, to influence themwith our thought.
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  • But that's the only way I think
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  • that we get through the process
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  • and come out on theother side, feeling good
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  • about where we've been,and where we're going.
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  • - That's amazing.
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  • You know, you said,every person is worthy,
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  • and I was thinking,there's a story
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  • my dad always tells of,
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  • way back when Gateway started,
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  • my dad had juststarted the church
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  • and he had just acouple people on staff.
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  • And one day he went and said,
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  • "Hey guys, there'sa lady in the lobby
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  • that would really liketo receive prayer,
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  • and I'm not gonnatell you who she is,
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  • but I want you to knowshe's worth a lot."
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  • And so, you know, andso they just all like,
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  • just over lavishthemselves on this lady,
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  • just gave themtheir phone numbers,
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  • just was like, "We'll prayfor you anything you need."
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  • The lady walked outand they all said,
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  • "So who is she?
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  • How much is she worth?"
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  • And he said, "Thesame thing as you,
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  • the blood of the lamb."
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  • And every single one ofthem dropped everything,
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  • and it was like one ofthese like aha moments of,
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  • we are all worth the same.
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  • So yes, we're gonnadisagree on things.
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  • But part of our differencesis what makes us who we are,
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  • it makes us the body of Christ.
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  • We can learn from one another,
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  • we can grow from one another.
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  • And so, I am I'm young,
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  • but I'm not too oldto learn from anybody.
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  • And I'll learn from anybodybecause I'm ready to learn.
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  • And so, I think that's a heart
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  • that we carry respectand it to say,
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  • "Hey, I'm open to this,
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  • I'm open to learning."
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  • And I just love that if we were
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  • to follow the model of Jesus,
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  • it says his kindnessled them to repentance.
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  • And I just think thatkindness is the way
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  • that we can walk in this season.
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  • You know, and Ithink about my life,
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  • and I think about my momentwhere I met the Lord,
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  • it wasn't because hehad judged me and said,
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  • "Oh you are a sinner,sinner, sinner."
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  • Yeah, those wereall true statements.
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  • It wasn't because, you know,
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  • and when I turned Iwanted to find Jesus,
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  • who did I turn to?
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  • I turned to my familythat had been kind to me,
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  • through all of my loss,and through all of my junk.
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  • And I turned to thepeople that loved me,
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  • not the people thatcontinually told me,
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  • "You're wrong, you'rewrong, you're wrong."
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  • I turned to thepeople that were kind,
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  • and I think that'sthe reality of it.
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  • It's like, it was his kindnessthat led my heart to say,
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  • "I want to live a better way."
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  • And I think that's the reality,
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  • is there are some thingswhere, we disagree or some...
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  • And they might be true thingsthat are very, very important.
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  • But I think our kindness isgonna be where people turn.
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  • I think the personthey're gonna call
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  • when they're ready to change,
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  • is the person that'sbeen kind to them
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  • through the entire journey.
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  • That's loved them throughthe whole process,
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  • and that hasn't satthere and just said,
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  • "Let me correct youin everything you do."
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  • They said, "Let me loveyou in every way I can."
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  • And then I know that
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  • there might be a betterway, but one day you'll ask,
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  • "Hey, what's the better way?"
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  • I mean, that's themoment I'll speak it.
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  • That's the moment.I'll show you my story.
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  • I'll tell you, where I can.
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  • But I'm going to love you,
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  • I'm going to respect you,
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  • and I'm going to be kind to you,
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  • through the entire journey,as we walk this together,
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  • Because we're both a progress,
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  • we are in progressto the father,
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  • and that's where we are.
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  • So we're gonna restin the fact that,
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  • we are both in progress,
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  • I'm not better than you,we're worth the same.
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  • I love you, andI'll be kind to you,
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  • because we're on ajourney together.
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  • - Yeah, that is so good Elaine.
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  • I think if we justsee each other
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  • as brother and sisters inthe Lord, across the board,
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  • you know, I've got two boys,
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  • I don't love onemore than the other.
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  • They're all the same to me.
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  • I am going to help,
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  • I am going to be there for,
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  • I'm going to treat bothof them with as much love
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  • as I have in my heart.
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  • And I think that's how Godsees us, we're all the same.
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  • We're all on the same level.
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  • We all are indesperate need for God.
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  • We're all hypocritesbasically (laughs),
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  • and we all just needhim, our need for him.
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  • You know Jesus loves us so much,
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  • but he also ishere to change us.
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  • He's here to mold and to makeus, and we're all on that.
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  • And I love that Jesus wasalways of that gentle answer.
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  • He's meek and he's lowly.
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  • He's everything thatthe beatitudes is.
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  • What he preached,he embodied that.
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  • That humble meekand lowly of heart.
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  • And I think that lovetrumps being right,
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  • every single time,
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  • and I think that if we canjust show that respect,
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  • not always have to be right.
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  • Just love people,love never fails.
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  • And that's the thing Chrystal
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  • that I think we all havereally get good at right now,
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  • because it seems likeit's almost getting harder
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  • in this day and age, becauseI think we're, you know...
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  • The longer time goes, themore we're into the last days.
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  • So whatever your belief on that,
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  • I'm just saying that the longertime goes,(laughs), right?
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  • We're entering intothe end of days.
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  • And it says it'sgonna get worse.
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  • People are gonna belovers of themselves
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  • and lovers of money,
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  • and lovers of...
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  • And thinking that theirway is right every time,
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  • and it's gonnaprobably get harder,
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  • to walk in love in that grace.
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  • But if we just remember
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  • how much we need thatlove and grace from God,
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  • I think that's what makesus feel a little more free
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  • to give that loveand grace to others.
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  • - Yeah, and I thinkalso remembering that
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  • our love is not conditional,on whether or not we agree.
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  • Our love is not conditional
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  • on whether or not weeven really like you.
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  • It's kind of like,love is conditional,
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  • (laughs)
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  • on the mandate, thatGod gave us to do it.
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  • - [Laurie] Yeah.
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  • You know, in Romans12:18, the Bible says,
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  • "If possible, so faras it depends on you,
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  • be at peace with all men."
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  • But really there'sa lot of scriptures
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  • in that chapter of Romans 12,
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  • that talk abouttreating other people
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  • and how we should do that.
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  • Verse 10 says,
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  • "Be devoted to one anotherin brotherly love."
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  • Verse 20 says, "If yourenemy is hungry, feed them."
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  • There's a lot ofpractical scriptures here.
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  • "Don't pay back evil forevil," verse 17 says.
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  • Verse nine, "Let lovebe without hypocrisy."
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  • And this whole ideais based in Romans 12,
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  • where it's saying,"Hey, we're different.
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  • we're different, we don'tall have the same gifts.
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  • We don't all have the same mind,
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  • but what is key is that,
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  • just like Christ loved uswhen we weren't on his page,
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  • he wants us to love other people
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  • whether or notthey're on our page."
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  • And that can be communicated
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  • in how we discusswhat we disagree on.
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  • It's not just that,you can just show love
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  • and, you know, bringsomebody something to eat,
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  • but then you're gonna, youknow, have a knock down drag out
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  • on some point ofdifference that you have
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  • in terms of philosophyof politics or religion,
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  • or anything else.
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  • It's that I show you Ilove you across the board,
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  • which is if I don'tagree with you,
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  • I can communicatethat to you in a way,
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  • where my difference of opinion
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  • is still communicatedin a loving way.
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  • And I have to tell youin this season of 2020,
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  • because it's an election year,
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  • there have been alot of conversations,
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  • where I'm just looking at people
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  • that I know are believers,
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  • and I'm just like,
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  • "For real, is thathow gonna come to me?"
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  • You know, just comeand I'm even...
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  • And I try to be sweet, Itry to be nice but you know,
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  • even sometimes peoplewill slide into my demons,
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  • and they'll say things to me.
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  • And my thing is, Irespect your opinion,
  • 00:09:59.121 --> 00:10:02.024
  • but you don't have tocome at me like that.
  • 00:10:02.024 --> 00:10:03.693
  • And I feel like, especiallyif we're believers,
  • 00:10:03.693 --> 00:10:06.495
  • and I think that'sa big key of our...
  • 00:10:06.495 --> 00:10:10.900
  • A big mark of us loving Jesus,
  • 00:10:10.900 --> 00:10:13.602
  • is how we showlove to each other,
  • 00:10:13.602 --> 00:10:15.404
  • and do that in the waythat we communicate.
  • 00:10:15.404 --> 00:10:18.207
  • You know, I don't thinkwe have to all agree,
  • 00:10:18.207 --> 00:10:20.309
  • I do think that we all allneed to speak and act in love,
  • 00:10:20.309 --> 00:10:23.913
  • and the Bible tellsus to do that.
  • 00:10:23.913 --> 00:10:25.715
  • And here's what Ihave to remind myself,
  • 00:10:25.715 --> 00:10:27.817
  • in seasons where me and myhusband and I don't agree,
  • 00:10:27.817 --> 00:10:30.720
  • my adult children,that's a whole thing.
  • 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.722
  • They don't agree with me.
  • 00:10:32.722 --> 00:10:33.723
  • You know?
  • 00:10:33.723 --> 00:10:35.124
  • (laughs)
  • 00:10:35.124 --> 00:10:36.625
  • I mean, you know, and thenI have to look at the Bible
  • 00:10:36.625 --> 00:10:38.494
  • and it says, you know,
  • 00:10:38.494 --> 00:10:39.995
  • the last verse in thatchapter it says...
  • 00:10:39.995 --> 00:10:42.498
  • This is next to the last.
  • 00:10:42.498 --> 00:10:44.100
  • "If your enemy ishungry, feed him.
  • 00:10:44.100 --> 00:10:46.902
  • If your enemy is hungry,give them a drink."
  • 00:10:46.902 --> 00:10:49.205
  • And the way to effectivelyminister to somebody else,
  • 00:10:50.706 --> 00:10:55.010
  • is by doing whatever you'regonna do, with kindness.
  • 00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:58.714
  • Kindness and love.
  • 00:10:58.714 --> 00:11:00.116
  • And so I think in thisseason, at least for me,
  • 00:11:00.116 --> 00:11:03.119
  • that's the thing to remember.
  • 00:11:03.119 --> 00:11:05.421
  • Is I can look at you, andshake my head and say,
  • 00:11:05.421 --> 00:11:07.723
  • "I don't think so."
  • 00:11:07.723 --> 00:11:09.325
  • (laughs)
  • 00:11:09.325 --> 00:11:10.793
  • But I can do it with a smilewithout ripping your head off.
  • 00:11:10.793 --> 00:11:13.496
  • And I think, you know,that's a big part for me
  • 00:11:13.496 --> 00:11:15.898
  • of not only watchingmy communication
  • 00:11:15.898 --> 00:11:18.400
  • and being a believer,
  • 00:11:18.400 --> 00:11:20.002
  • but also it's a point forme in watching my friends
  • 00:11:20.002 --> 00:11:23.706
  • and the people that I'm incommunity with that, you know,
  • 00:11:23.706 --> 00:11:26.609
  • that I can applaud themfor how they responded.
  • 00:11:26.609 --> 00:11:29.411
  • Or say, "Girl listen,
  • 00:11:29.411 --> 00:11:30.312
  • I know that they were wrong,
  • 00:11:30.312 --> 00:11:31.514
  • but, you know theway you came at them,
  • 00:11:31.514 --> 00:11:33.415
  • that really wasn't right."
  • 00:11:33.415 --> 00:11:34.717
  • And I think that we needto look at each other
  • 00:11:34.717 --> 00:11:36.819
  • in this season particularly,
  • 00:11:36.819 --> 00:11:38.721
  • and remind each other,that all of these things,
  • 00:11:38.721 --> 00:11:42.124
  • but out of the greatest ofthese things, it's love,
  • 00:11:42.124 --> 00:11:44.994
  • it's love.
  • 00:11:44.994 --> 00:11:46.295
  • - I love how yousaid that so well.
  • 00:11:46.295 --> 00:11:48.097
  • No matter what you do,
  • 00:11:48.097 --> 00:11:49.698
  • do it in kindness and love.
  • 00:11:49.698 --> 00:11:51.600
  • Like you do what you gotta do,
  • 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.502
  • but there is aJesus way to do it.
  • 00:11:53.502 --> 00:11:57.907
  • And I love that you said that.
  • 00:11:57.907 --> 00:12:00.910
  • One of my favoritethings about Jesus,
  • 00:12:00.910 --> 00:12:03.012
  • is that he did not haveto agree with somebody
  • 00:12:03.012 --> 00:12:05.514
  • to hang out with them,or to eat with them.
  • 00:12:05.514 --> 00:12:07.516
  • He was constantly saying,
  • 00:12:07.516 --> 00:12:08.818
  • "Hey you, I'm goingto your house.
  • 00:12:08.818 --> 00:12:10.219
  • You don't agree withme, but we're gonna eat.
  • 00:12:10.219 --> 00:12:12.021
  • You don't like me,but we're gonna hang.
  • 00:12:12.021 --> 00:12:13.722
  • Hey, you I'm gettinginto your boat.
  • 00:12:13.722 --> 00:12:15.424
  • You, you're leaving your boat."
  • 00:12:15.424 --> 00:12:16.725
  • Like he was constantlyhanging out with people
  • 00:12:16.725 --> 00:12:18.194
  • that didn't agree with him,
  • 00:12:18.194 --> 00:12:19.795
  • and he was having all theserelationships with people,
  • 00:12:19.795 --> 00:12:22.097
  • who did not see theworld the same way
  • 00:12:22.097 --> 00:12:23.699
  • that he saw the world.
  • 00:12:23.699 --> 00:12:25.501
  • And so, I think aboutthat a lot this year,
  • 00:12:25.501 --> 00:12:28.003
  • when I see how other Christiansspeak to other Christians.
  • 00:12:28.003 --> 00:12:31.407
  • And when I see how peoplespeak to other people,
  • 00:12:31.407 --> 00:12:34.510
  • man, if the Bible tells us,
  • 00:12:34.510 --> 00:12:37.112
  • if Jesus says,"Love your enemies,"
  • 00:12:37.112 --> 00:12:40.516
  • then we must show respect,
  • 00:12:40.516 --> 00:12:43.719
  • at the very least to peoplewe merely disagreed with.
  • 00:12:43.719 --> 00:12:47.923
  • Like if we are commandedto love our enemies,
  • 00:12:47.923 --> 00:12:50.593
  • then why are we havingtrouble loving people
  • 00:12:50.593 --> 00:12:52.795
  • that just have variedopinions from us?
  • 00:12:52.795 --> 00:12:54.897
  • And I don't know whoseexample we are following,
  • 00:12:54.897 --> 00:12:57.900
  • but it is certainly not theexample of Jesus Christ.
  • 00:12:57.900 --> 00:13:00.603
  • Because JesusChrist did not say,
  • 00:13:00.603 --> 00:13:02.004
  • "Hey, if you disagree withme, get out of my way.
  • 00:13:02.004 --> 00:13:03.906
  • If you disagree with me,you can leave the room.
  • 00:13:03.906 --> 00:13:05.608
  • If you disagree with me,click that unfollow button."
  • 00:13:05.608 --> 00:13:08.110
  • He didn't.
  • 00:13:08.110 --> 00:13:09.311
  • He said, "Let'shave a conversation.
  • 00:13:09.311 --> 00:13:10.312
  • Let's have a relationship."
  • 00:13:10.312 --> 00:13:11.814
  • How are we going to reach aworld that we don't even like?
  • 00:13:11.814 --> 00:13:14.717
  • How are we going toshow the love of Jesus
  • 00:13:15.918 --> 00:13:17.920
  • to a world that wedon't even wanna know?
  • 00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:20.723
  • What is the plan?
  • 00:13:20.723 --> 00:13:22.224
  • And I'm nervous that there is...
  • 00:13:22.224 --> 00:13:23.792
  • - The world thatdoesn't know Jesus,
  • 00:13:24.894 --> 00:13:26.896
  • that is looking at us Christians
  • 00:13:26.896 --> 00:13:28.898
  • and how we talk to each other
  • 00:13:28.898 --> 00:13:30.699
  • and how we speak to each other.
  • 00:13:30.699 --> 00:13:32.401
  • And we're saying, come join us.
  • 00:13:32.401 --> 00:13:34.803
  • Isn't this great?
  • 00:13:34.803 --> 00:13:36.305
  • Don't you wannabe a part of this?
  • 00:13:36.305 --> 00:13:38.407
  • They want to see thetruth about Jesus
  • 00:13:38.407 --> 00:13:41.110
  • which would be thelove and kindness
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  • and welcoming of Jesus Christ.
  • 00:13:43.212 --> 00:13:45.414
  • So that is my hope for us,
  • 00:13:45.414 --> 00:13:46.916
  • that whatever we do,whatever we feel called to do
  • 00:13:46.916 --> 00:13:49.318
  • that we're doing itin the Jesus way.
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  • Welcoming, inviting
  • 00:13:51.520 --> 00:13:53.722
  • saying it in love
  • 00:13:53.722 --> 00:13:55.224
  • speaking in love, speakingin kindness and saying
  • 00:13:55.224 --> 00:13:56.926
  • hey, you don't agree with me?
  • 00:13:56.926 --> 00:13:58.193
  • We're still gonna havea meal together and talk
  • 00:13:58.193 --> 00:14:00.696
  • and have a relationship.
  • 00:14:00.696 --> 00:14:01.897
  • Hey, you don't like me?
  • 00:14:01.897 --> 00:14:02.998
  • - Right.
  • 00:14:02.998 --> 00:14:04.300
  • - We're still gonnaget to know each other.
  • 00:14:04.300 --> 00:14:05.801
  • We have to know the worldthat we want to reach.
  • 00:14:05.801 --> 00:14:09.905
  • So hopefully we canshow the love of Jesus
  • 00:14:09.905 --> 00:14:12.508
  • - Hosanna, that's really good.
  • 00:14:12.508 --> 00:14:14.410
  • I think about the seasonthat we're in right now.
  • 00:14:14.410 --> 00:14:17.913
  • And I think that everythingfeels so out of control
  • 00:14:17.913 --> 00:14:18.147
  • and people want asense of control
  • 00:14:18.747 --> 00:14:20.149
  • and when thingsare out of control,
  • 00:14:20.149 --> 00:14:22.351
  • then we become fearful.
  • 00:14:22.351 --> 00:14:24.053
  • Well the oppositeof love is not hate.
  • 00:14:24.053 --> 00:14:27.122
  • The opposite of love is fear.
  • 00:14:27.122 --> 00:14:29.525
  • And so what we can do aschildren of the most high
  • 00:14:29.525 --> 00:14:34.530
  • is to love people.
  • 00:14:35.331 --> 00:14:36.532
  • You know, love neverfails. It doesn't.
  • 00:14:36.532 --> 00:14:38.233
  • Sometimes love is hard becauseyou don't feel very loving.
  • 00:14:38.233 --> 00:14:42.438
  • But the greatest test of grace
  • 00:14:42.438 --> 00:14:44.840
  • is to love somebodyand to give them grace
  • 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:48.243
  • when they don't evenknow that they need it.
  • 00:14:48.243 --> 00:14:50.846
  • Instead you'd like totell them a thing or two,
  • 00:14:50.846 --> 00:14:53.148
  • but that doesn't work.
  • 00:14:53.148 --> 00:14:54.450
  • And it goes back again to
  • 00:14:54.450 --> 00:14:56.452
  • how am I going to influencepeople towards the message
  • 00:14:56.452 --> 00:15:00.923
  • and the hope of Christ?
  • 00:15:00.923 --> 00:15:02.524
  • And you can only influence them
  • 00:15:02.524 --> 00:15:04.626
  • if you've got arelationship with them,
  • 00:15:04.626 --> 00:15:06.428
  • if you're at thetable with them.
  • 00:15:06.428 --> 00:15:08.030
  • So you say, I will havegrace for an individual.
  • 00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:12.334
  • I will love this individualbecause basically
  • 00:15:12.334 --> 00:15:15.537
  • they are perhapsmaybe hateful or
  • 00:15:15.537 --> 00:15:19.541
  • full of strife and stress.
  • 00:15:20.943 --> 00:15:23.045
  • How do I help alleviate that?
  • 00:15:23.045 --> 00:15:25.647
  • I think oftentimes we needto go into a situation
  • 00:15:25.647 --> 00:15:28.350
  • and look at how we candiffuse the atmosphere.
  • 00:15:28.350 --> 00:15:32.421
  • You know, again, I'm sucha believer in atmosphere
  • 00:15:32.421 --> 00:15:35.424
  • and we're in an atmospherethat feels uncertain
  • 00:15:35.424 --> 00:15:38.127
  • and we feel out of control.
  • 00:15:38.127 --> 00:15:39.828
  • So how do we createan atmosphere
  • 00:15:39.828 --> 00:15:42.531
  • that brings peaceinto the situation.
  • 00:15:42.531 --> 00:15:44.833
  • That makes people feelthey're loved in spite of
  • 00:15:44.833 --> 00:15:48.637
  • with their opinion or inspite of what we think
  • 00:15:48.637 --> 00:15:51.340
  • and how they should believe,or how they should think
  • 00:15:51.340 --> 00:15:53.542
  • or how they shouldexpress themselves
  • 00:15:53.542 --> 00:15:55.444
  • or if they've expressedthemselves way too much
  • 00:15:55.444 --> 00:15:58.047
  • for our comfort, we canstill love those people.
  • 00:15:58.047 --> 00:16:01.850
  • Love never fails.
  • 00:16:01.850 --> 00:16:03.152
  • And I think that'skind of a thing
  • 00:16:03.152 --> 00:16:04.720
  • that we've gotgoing through here.
  • 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:06.221
  • But love will cast out fear.
  • 00:16:06.221 --> 00:16:09.124
  • If you love an individual
  • 00:16:09.124 --> 00:16:10.726
  • you can push back thefear that they're feeling
  • 00:16:10.726 --> 00:16:12.928
  • and their out of controland it's that they feel.
  • 00:16:12.928 --> 00:16:15.431
  • So I say love, love, love,
  • 00:16:15.431 --> 00:16:17.433
  • love till it hurts.
  • 00:16:17.433 --> 00:16:18.934
  • Love till it's, you know it'sinconvenient you keep loving
  • 00:16:18.934 --> 00:16:21.537
  • and then God steps inand he does the miracle
  • 00:16:21.537 --> 00:16:24.440
  • of bringing the relationships
  • 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:25.741
  • to where they need to be.
  • 00:16:25.741 --> 00:16:27.042
  • - Beautiful.- That is true.
  • 00:16:27.042 --> 00:16:28.644
  • I realized that I givewhat I have overflow of.
  • 00:16:28.744 --> 00:16:31.447
  • You know we've talked about
  • 00:16:31.447 --> 00:16:32.648
  • taking inventoryof our heart space.
  • 00:16:32.648 --> 00:16:34.149
  • So I realized that it'shard for me to give grace
  • 00:16:34.149 --> 00:16:36.819
  • when I don't remember howmuch grace I've received.
  • 00:16:36.819 --> 00:16:39.721
  • And so I think inthis season too
  • 00:16:39.721 --> 00:16:41.723
  • it's a season wherewe're reminding ourselves
  • 00:16:41.723 --> 00:16:44.126
  • who we are and what God hasdone for us and how he loves us
  • 00:16:44.126 --> 00:16:47.830
  • and he cares for us.
  • 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:49.331
  • And so I thinkthis is a moment to
  • 00:16:49.331 --> 00:16:52.034
  • this is me personally, okay.
  • 00:16:52.034 --> 00:16:53.435
  • Just in the lastcouple of weeks,
  • 00:16:53.435 --> 00:16:55.237
  • I was texting andtalking to my husband
  • 00:16:55.237 --> 00:16:57.339
  • and I was kinda ventingabout what was going on.
  • 00:16:57.339 --> 00:17:00.042
  • I was venting about my season.
  • 00:17:00.042 --> 00:17:01.643
  • I was venting about life.
  • 00:17:01.643 --> 00:17:03.445
  • I was venting that I thoughtsomebody got promoted
  • 00:17:03.445 --> 00:17:05.647
  • more than they should have.
  • 00:17:05.647 --> 00:17:07.449
  • And maybe I should be there
  • 00:17:07.449 --> 00:17:08.851
  • and all the differentthings, right.
  • 00:17:08.851 --> 00:17:10.319
  • And I was judging them.
  • 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.121
  • And my husband justso sweetly asked
  • 00:17:12.121 --> 00:17:14.022
  • why do you feel like youcan judge the situation?
  • 00:17:14.022 --> 00:17:17.826
  • And I just satthere for a moment.
  • 00:17:17.826 --> 00:17:19.628
  • And then I satback just a thought
  • 00:17:19.628 --> 00:17:21.330
  • and I said becausesomewhere along the line,
  • 00:17:21.330 --> 00:17:25.134
  • I thought I'm God.
  • 00:17:25.134 --> 00:17:27.436
  • And I have the rightto judge this moment.
  • 00:17:27.436 --> 00:17:30.139
  • And it just rockedmy world to realize
  • 00:17:30.139 --> 00:17:33.342
  • I cannot believe I everput myself in that spot.
  • 00:17:33.342 --> 00:17:37.045
  • And so I think I'vebeen in this journey
  • 00:17:37.045 --> 00:17:39.047
  • when I feel like I needto prove something to you.
  • 00:17:39.047 --> 00:17:42.451
  • I need to teach you something.
  • 00:17:42.451 --> 00:17:43.919
  • I need to show you something
  • 00:17:43.919 --> 00:17:45.420
  • there's a betterway and I know it.
  • 00:17:45.420 --> 00:17:47.122
  • And I get this realcocky, prideful attitude.
  • 00:17:47.122 --> 00:17:50.125
  • I sat back and I ask myself
  • 00:17:50.125 --> 00:17:52.327
  • did I put myself in a place that
  • 00:17:52.327 --> 00:17:54.329
  • I'm actually notworthy to be in?
  • 00:17:54.329 --> 00:17:56.732
  • I'm not God, I'm not theone to judge this situation.
  • 00:17:56.732 --> 00:18:00.335
  • I'm not the one todetermine the right or wrong
  • 00:18:00.335 --> 00:18:03.038
  • of this moment orthat person's heart
  • 00:18:03.038 --> 00:18:04.940
  • or where they should beor where they shouldn't be
  • 00:18:04.940 --> 00:18:06.842
  • or what they should believeor what they shouldn't believe
  • 00:18:06.842 --> 00:18:09.244
  • how far along in theirjourney they should be.
  • 00:18:09.244 --> 00:18:11.146
  • I'm not that person,I'm called to love.
  • 00:18:11.146 --> 00:18:14.750
  • I'm called to make disciples.
  • 00:18:14.750 --> 00:18:16.618
  • I called to lean in
  • 00:18:16.618 --> 00:18:18.120
  • and recruit them tothe love of the Father
  • 00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:20.722
  • not to prove thembetter or wrong.
  • 00:18:20.722 --> 00:18:23.625
  • And I think that's beenthis huge thing in my heart.
  • 00:18:23.625 --> 00:18:26.128
  • And this is me walkingthrough this journey.
  • 00:18:26.128 --> 00:18:28.130
  • I'm not past this.
  • 00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:29.531
  • This is me everyday saying
  • 00:18:29.531 --> 00:18:31.333
  • man, you feel veryprideful in that.
  • 00:18:31.333 --> 00:18:33.535
  • Do you need to relieve yourselfof a role that is not yours?
  • 00:18:33.535 --> 00:18:37.039
  • Because if I will says, donot judge lest you be judged.
  • 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:40.042
  • The Bible says youare not in that place.
  • 00:18:40.042 --> 00:18:42.144
  • And so for me, I'vehad to humble my heart.
  • 00:18:42.144 --> 00:18:45.147
  • I've had to humble my mind
  • 00:18:45.147 --> 00:18:46.648
  • and say no, Iremember where I was
  • 00:18:46.648 --> 00:18:49.051
  • and how God saved me
  • 00:18:49.051 --> 00:18:50.519
  • and the grace thatI've received.
  • 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:52.221
  • And so with, Iremember that grace
  • 00:18:52.221 --> 00:18:54.223
  • and I remember the lovethat was extended to me.
  • 00:18:54.223 --> 00:18:56.725
  • Then I can give it to you
  • 00:18:56.725 --> 00:18:58.026
  • because I know we'reon a journey together.
  • 00:18:58.026 --> 00:19:00.729
  • And I am not anymore worthy than you
  • 00:19:00.729 --> 00:19:03.131
  • to even put myself ina place to judge you
  • 00:19:03.131 --> 00:19:06.134
  • or to tell you where youshould be in your journey
  • 00:19:06.134 --> 00:19:08.737
  • or what you should believe.
  • 00:19:08.737 --> 00:19:10.339
  • Because I know God is faithfulto meet you where you are
  • 00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:13.542
  • because he wasfaithful to meet me
  • 00:19:13.542 --> 00:19:15.544
  • every single day where I am.
  • 00:19:15.544 --> 00:19:17.746
  • - Right. You know, and Ithink that's so good Elaine.
  • 00:19:17.746 --> 00:19:21.250
  • That God changes thehearts of minds in men.
  • 00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:24.720
  • And I love thescripture that says
  • 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.923
  • to pursue peace, itmeans go after peace.
  • 00:19:27.923 --> 00:19:31.627
  • So when you're ina hot button topic
  • 00:19:31.627 --> 00:19:35.130
  • or whatever you're talkingto someone that you don't
  • 00:19:35.130 --> 00:19:37.633
  • you can either dropit in love and go on
  • 00:19:37.633 --> 00:19:40.836
  • stop talking about it.
  • 00:19:40.836 --> 00:19:42.337
  • Just shut it off and stop.
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  • But to pursue peace.
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  • And the scripture actually says
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  • let us therefore pursue peace
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  • in the things whichmake for peace
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  • and the thingsthat make for peace
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  • and the things by whichone may edify each other.
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  • So even if you're disagreeing
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  • you need to find somethingthat you can, that edify.
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  • You know, a lot oftimes, even with our kids
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  • this is just the thought.
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  • When your children are
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  • out of control or being ugly,
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  • and you're tryingto settle them down.
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  • I don't know crystal, ifyou've ever had to do this
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  • but sometimes youjust have to stop,
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  • reset for a secondand then just go,
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  • you know what? You are so good.
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  • I remember one day, I'lltell just a little story.
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  • I was railing at mylittle two year old
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  • for riding on a bunch ofreally important papers.
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  • He would alwaysjust pick up his pen
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  • and any paper hewould see on the desk
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  • he would just start drawingthese amazing little art pieces.
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  • And he had grabbed some ofdaddy's important papers one day
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  • and he's just writing them.
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  • And I was like,Cody, what the heck?
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  • What are you doing?
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  • And I just start intomy mommy thing, you know
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  • and he's just sittingthere looking at me
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  • and he's in this little onesie
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  • and he's sitting there justlooking at me, just let me rail.
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  • And finally he starts going
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  • you
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  • you.
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  • And I'm finally what?
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  • He goes, you are areally good teacher.
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  • And I think sometimeswe just have to stop
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  • and see something that God hasput on the inside of somebody
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  • and go you knowwhat? You are so good
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  • at trying to find the truthand going after truth.
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  • And I admire thatin you, you know
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  • and maybe bless your enemies.
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  • Those are people.
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  • Not necessarily, you'renot necessarily my enemy.
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  • You might consider me an enemy.
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  • So Jesus just says to blessyour enemies, to pray for them.
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  • I think the first thing Crystal
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  • that happens when you startpraying for your enemies
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  • is I think that the first thingthat comes to them is truth.
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  • Light on the subject,truth from God
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  • for blessing those thatmight not agree with you.
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  • And you know what I think
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  • we all need to laydown our opinions
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  • and all need to gainthe mind of Christ.
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  • And maybe we would stop lashingout so hard at one another.
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  • Maybe we did. I don'tknow, just a suggestion.
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  • - Well you know, I thinkyou were asking Lori
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  • if I've ever had tosplit the kids up.
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  • I mean, yes, thereare five of them
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  • so I get to do that quite often.
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  • (laughs)
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  • But you know, one ofthe things I will say,
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  • there's one of mychildren in particular,
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  • that is when he gets worked up
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  • you know, it's awhole situation.
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  • And so I just say, youknow, go to your room
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  • you just get yourself together.
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  • And he hates that.
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  • He doesn't wanna be alone.
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  • He starts saying, Ican do it. I can do it.
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  • I can get myself together.
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  • I'm like go to your roomand get yourself together.
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  • Like, there is a certaincontrol of faculty
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  • that you are learningand that's okay.
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  • So take a minute.
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  • And because if you can'tthink of anything good to say
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  • and you've got to learnnot to say anything at all
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  • because if you are here
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  • in the midst of everybody else,
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  • not seeking peaceand being intentional
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  • about choosing your words
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  • and looking forsomething to get into say
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  • then everything elsethat you're saying
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  • its stirring upanimosity instead.
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  • And that's not Jean likeyou were talking about
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  • earlier this week
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  • that's not the atmospherethat we want here.
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  • And so often it'sa matter of faculty
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  • and we understand whenwe're teaching our children
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  • that they have to learn control.
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  • Well as an adult we mayneed to learn control
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  • and to use choice words.
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  • Pursuing peace andwalking in kindness means
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  • watching our tongues.
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  • Power life and death(indistinct) tells us
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  • that power of life anddeath is in your tongue.
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  • So what you say really matters
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  • and how you say it canframe the atmosphere.
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  • Almost every morningI turn on music,
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  • it may be radio, it maybe (indistinct) or spotify
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  • sometimes it's YouTube.
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  • And I just want my home flooded
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  • with a certain atmosphere.
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  • And my kids are like why dohave to listen to that everyday?
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  • And I'm like, if its notfor you honey, its for me.
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  • So I can operate undera certain faculty today
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  • and remind myself that Iget to life into your day.
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  • I need life pouring to me.
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  • Like you said Iwill be able to give
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  • what I have an overflow of.
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  • And I just think Hossana thatsome of our viewers today
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  • could use prayer in this arena
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  • of a praying of justwalking in peace and love.
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  • Would you pray forour viewers today?
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  • - I'd love that.
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  • Yes, absolutely.
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  • Jesus, we just pray thatwe will follow your example
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  • on how to love people.
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  • Would you help us fight forpeople and not against people.
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  • Would you help us seeyour truths in your way
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  • with compassion,love, understandingwith hears to hear.
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  • Ultimately we wannashow your love
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  • not our agenda.
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  • Ultimately we wannashow your ways, not ours
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  • so I just pray thatyou remind us everyday
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  • that we represent you.
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  • That you will giveus ideas every day
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  • of how to speak yourtruths in your ways
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  • to the people right next to us.
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  • And we just pray thatwe would be a church
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  • that represents you andyour love really well.
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  • Help us to expose thetruth of who you are
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  • and how we speak to people,in the name of Jesus.
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  • Amen.
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  • - Amen.- Amen
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  • - Amen.
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  • A quiet and gentle spirit.
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  • Thank you for joining us.
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  • If you have a prayer request
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  • please connect withus on social media.
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  • Our Better Togethercommunity is always praying
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  • and is ready to standin agreement with you.
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  • Tomorrow on Better Togetherwe'll be talking about
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  • how God has alreadywon the race for us.
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  • His truth will prevail
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  • and help us filter out allthe other noise of this world.
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  • We'll see you then, we love you.
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  • Bye-bye.
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  • (gentle music)
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