Better Together LIVE | Episode 98
September 2, 2020
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The simple act of saying "yes" to God can change the world. Submitting to God's will is a bold act of pure adventure. | TBN Prayer Line: 1-888-731-1000
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Better Together LIVE | Episode 98
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- - Sometimes God asks usto do the unexpected.
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- When we submit to his plansand obey his commands,
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- we are saying not mywill, but yours be done.
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- Let's talk about how ouryes to Jesus can change
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- not only our livesbut the lives of many.
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- (upbeat music)
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- - I was thinking abouta time in my life
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- about seven years agowhen we lost everything.
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- And I remember wehad a phone call
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- from the churchwe were working at
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- that they could no longerfinancially keep us on staff.
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- We had hit a massive economicdownturn in California.
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- If you had livedanywhere in the state,
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- you'd know about therecession that we hit.
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- And our church wasdesperately trying to hang on
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- to staff members and families.
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- And we were at thatpoint part of the cut.
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- And I rememberfeeling so devastated
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- after getting off thephone with my husband,
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- I had just given birthto our fourth child
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- and I had four boysunder the age of five.
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- I had my fourth C-sectionand our littlest Beckham
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- had ended up in theNICU for 10 days.
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- And I rememberjust when I thought
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- the sun was aboutto break through
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- all three kidsget diagnosed with
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- hand foot and mouth disease
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- they were quarantinedfor another 10 days.
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- And I'm finally like recoveringfrom the fore C-section
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- and the NICU journey andthe hand foot and mouth.
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- And then we get thisphone call that says,
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- we financiallycan't keep you on.
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- And I remember telling myhusband I couldn't talk.
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- I was so overwhelmedwith emotion.
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- I hung up the phone andI walked to my bedroom
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- and I had a fullblown adult tantrum.
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- If you've ever hadone it's possible.
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- And I fell on thebed without my arms.
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- And I cried and I said Godwhy are you doing this to me?
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- I have not said no to you.
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- I mean, my whole life.
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- I said yes to yousince I was 17.
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- I can barely remember a timewhen I haven't said yes to you.
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- I mean, I have given you my life
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- and I've givenyou my whole story
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- and my marriage and mykids and the whole journey.
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- And now at the end of allthis you're gonna leave me?.
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- You're gonna leave meand in not have a plan
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- and I said to God whatdo you want me to do?
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- What do you want me to do?
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- I can't give a childback (chuckles) to you.
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- I can't go get another job.
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- I can't nurse my entire family.
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- What do you want me to do?
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- And I remember hearinghim saying to me,
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- I want you to make chicken.
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- And I was sarcastic like,
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- okay, God make chickenha ha you make chicken.
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- And he goes no, no.
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- I want you to make the chicken.
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- I want you to getup and make dinner.
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- - I did make the chicken
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- - I did make it.
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- God says, I did makethe chicken ha ha
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- But I remember saying it to God
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- and I don't know if you'veever been this place
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- where I go, you know what?
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- I don't have any other thing.
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- I don't know what else to doso I might as well obey you,
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- like, doesn't really feel like
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- a big monumental faith moment.
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- It's almost like well, Idon't know what else to do.
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- And so I say okay,
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- I'll make chicken.
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- I get up that night.
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- And I clean the house up andget the kids all cleaned up
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- and light my candles andput on my little music.
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- And when Ben comes home andwe have dinner that night.
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- And he's like, do youwanna talk about it?
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- And I'm like, not yet.
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- Let's eat I need afull stomach before
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- I talk about anything critical.
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- And we sit down that night
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- and we start to talkthrough our lives
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- and I'll tell you what you guys,
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- it wasn't like this radicalphone call on my phone
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- and the halfwayeverything's solved.
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- It's all gonna work out.
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- Radical obedience for me wasloading up all four of our kids
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- three months after postpartum
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- moving to a brand new city
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- with no family, nohome, no income,
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- just we're gonna just do this.
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- And I remember drivingin a town that day
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- and we show up at our houseand we've got four little
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- and we're unpacking the U hall,
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- and I'm by myself.
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- I'd never livedapart from my family
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- in my 36 years of life.
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- And I remember sayingGod I'm here for it.
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- Whatever you wannado I'm here for it.
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- And I can honestly say that
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- with that move ofradical obedience,
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- God opened up my entire life
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- in terms of the callthat was on my life.
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- The story that he had for me,
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- the dreams of my heart Ididn't know would take place,
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- but there was a radical likeobedience I had to walk in
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- order to open up thenext section of my life.
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- And then I wasthinking about this,
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- not to belabor the pointbut in March we got a call.
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- Obviously the Covid hadhappened and was still happening
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- and stay at home order.
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- And within 24 hours welost 40% of our income.
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- All of my speakingengagements canceled
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- one after the other in 48 hours,
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- five months asspeaking engagements
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- were just absolutelyoff the books.
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- And for those of usthat are on the road,
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- we know that that's kindof how we pay our staff
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- and that's how we pay our rent,
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- and that's how we feed our kids,
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- and that's what life looks like.
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- And I remembersitting in the office
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- and I could feel this like God,
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- what are we gonna do?
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- I don't know what to do a
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- and I don't have away to solve this.
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- And I remember the Lord saying,
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- remember that time when Itold you to make chicken?
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- he's like, I think you know what
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- you're having fordinner tonight.
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- (laughing)
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- So I went downstairsand I made chicken.
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- And I remember it was in thatmoment of radical obedience
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- that I could bereminded to do the thing
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- that was in frontof me that day.
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- And so I don't knowabout you guys,
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- but this isn'tlike one and done.
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- This is like a momentby moment, day by day,
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- doing the very thinghe's asked me to do,
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- manna 24 hours dothe next thing,
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- manna at 24 hours todo the next thing.
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- And I think we as a generation
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- and even as a society right now,
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- we are like children in Israel.
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- We are wandering in the desertand he is giving us manna,
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- but we have to believe thatthere's a promised land coming.
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- And I don't know about you guys,
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- but I feel like it'sbeen my daily bread.
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- What about you Laurie?
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- How's it been for you?
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- - Yeah Absolutely.
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- You know HavilahI could sit here.
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- So I'm quite a bitolder than all of you.
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- And I can say thatknowing the Lord,
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- following after himfollowing the voice,
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- the prophetic voice ofGod that speaks to us,
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- that the harder it looksthe easier it gets.
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- Now I have justturned a year older
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- and I have a few scarsand a few stripes.
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- I remember years,years ago when God...
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- we had worked at TBN backwhen Matt and I were young
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- in 1992 we were kindof ripped out at TBN.
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- And I remember Matt saying,
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- I feel like I have all theauthority with no responsibility
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- and God like jerked usout and took us away
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- and put us in the middle ofHollywood with two little boys.
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- And I remember the day theprophetic word of the Lord
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- was to put yourfoot in Hollywood.
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- And it was very clear fromall the people around us,
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- all the counselors andeverybody that means something
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- to you said you gottago to Hollywood,
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- you've gotta get there,
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- just put your foot there.
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- That was what the prophetsaid Just put your foot.
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- don't care where you move,just put your foot there.
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- And I'll never forget the day
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- that we actually sign thepapers on a new home up there.
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- And it was impossible
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- but God had given Matt anighttime dream where to move.
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- And it didn't matterwhether we sold our home
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- in orange County or not,
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- this home wasimpossible to get into,
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- but we had takenseveral board members
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- and pastors and people up there.
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- They were likethis is the place,
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- put your foot there.
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- And I remembersitting on the floor
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- at about six o'clockin the morning
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- on a cold office marble floor.
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- And a phone call had comefrom the owners of the home.
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- They were in Chicagoand the man was crying
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- and he said Laurie,
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- he said, "we've got to haveyour answer today because
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- "your escrow is responsible for
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- "about five escrows right now".
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- If this escrowdoesn't go through
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- my escrow doesn't gothrough their escrow does...
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- And it was justthis domino effect
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- that was just gonna slaythe world, his opinion.
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- And I'll never forget We had$8 and 99 cents in the bank.
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- It was like whenthe Lord spoke to us
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- and told us to go to Hollywood,
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- it's like he turnedall the faucets off.
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- It's like all thefinancial faucets
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- just went to not even a drip,
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- it was gone and now he's gone
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- I want you to move to Hollywood.
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- And it was already hard enough,
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- to just kind ofuproot my little boys
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- and move to themiddle of Hollywood.
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- I never would have donethat to my children
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- had it not been thevoice of the Lord.
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- And I remembersitting on the floor
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- and in came througha fax machine,
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- if you don't know whatthat is look it up.
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- This fax machine was thiscontract from these lawyers
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- that was this long listof about 120 lawyer names
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- from this huge Chicago firm.
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- And it said you areresponsible for this loan
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- in the next two weeks you areresponsible for this amount,
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- whether your loancomes through or not.
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- And I remember sitting on thefloor and Matt's just sitting,
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- I've had to gethim out of bed God
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- we have to sign this paper,
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- or we have to forgetthis right now.
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- And I'm sitting on thefloor and I'll never forget.
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- I just sat there scaredspit less in so many ways,
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- just the impossible but I knew
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- what the voice ofthe Lord had said.
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- I knew what was in our hearts.
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- I knew what our parents,said what our pastors said,
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- what spiritual influencesin our life had said.
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- And I knew we had toput our foot there
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- no matter what I saw.
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- And I'll neverforget I sat there
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- and Matt's just looking atme and I just looked at him.
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- I said, go ahead,go ahead, go ahead,
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- go ahead, go ahead, goahead, sign those papers.
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- And he just signed real quick
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- and he stuck it backin the fax machine.
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- And that fax wentoff and it was like,
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- Oh God, you're runningto the fax machine
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- to tear the paper outthat's what I wanted to do.
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- But I knew down insidethis is what God
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- had spoken to our hearts.
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- And I'm here today to tellyou that everything was okay,
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- God wants to show his power.
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- He wants to show his love forus and his power through us.
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- And that's when we askedfor the impossible Bianca.
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- And that's what livingradical that obedience to God,
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- it's so much betterthan sacrifice.
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- - I love that, infact listening to you
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- and listening to HavI'm reminded of that
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- passage in James where it says,
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- "we can't just behearers of the word.
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- "We must be doers of the word".
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- And when the spirit of Godspeaks to us in whatever way,
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- for Hav like it'snot an audible voice,
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- it's an internalvoice for Laurie.
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- It could be throughdreams or visions
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- or people speakinginto your life.
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- But I want us to be people who
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- when we hear Godmove in our life,
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- that we don't just hearit, but that we do it.
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- And for me, I'm a stepmom.
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- I have two step kids.
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- And I think that the beautifulthing about radical obedience
- 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.311
- is that we get to seea different side of God
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- that maybe we haven'tknown or discovered.
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- And so when I became a stepmom,
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- I stepped intoparenting two children
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- that were not mine biologically.
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- And I think that it'dbe easy to abdicate.
- 00:12:46.355 --> 00:12:48.657
- It'd be easy to be likewell, I didn't birth you.
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- Or you clearly got thatfrom your other parent,
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- but when God has entrusted us
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- and we are obedient to the call
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- that he has placedin front of us.
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- For me it's raisingtwo step kids.
- 00:12:59.168 --> 00:13:01.103
- I have a choice I could obeyGod and rear these children
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- in the ways of Godor I could abdicate,
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- and all of us havethat same ability.
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- Now for me I thinkthat in obeying God
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- it has given me a perspectiveof learning him more
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- so as I look at these kidsthat are not mine biologically
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- I'm reminded of the wildolive branch is grafted in
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- that we read about in John 15,
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- that we have been...
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- If you're a Gentile,you're not a Jew.
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- Actually I discoveredI'm 1% Jew.
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- So I like to say I'm Jew-ish,just a little bit of Jewish,
- 00:13:30.499 --> 00:13:33.435
- but for the Gentilesin the house,
- 00:13:33.435 --> 00:13:35.537
- we have been graftedinto this family
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- and God has adopted us.
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- We have been broughtin into this family
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- we've been adoptedinto the family of God.
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- And I think that,
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- that same love.that same kindness,
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- that same choice asGod has given me.
- 00:13:47.716 --> 00:13:50.419
- I get to give mystep kids as well.
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- And so radicalobedience has taught me
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- yes to love people thatGod has placed in my life.
- 00:13:54.757 --> 00:13:58.260
- But it's also given me a lens
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- and a perspectiveof how God loves me.
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- And so I love this ideathat radical obedience
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- allows us to know, see andunderstand God in new ways.
- 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.238
- - Yeah, It's so interestingRadical obedience really does
- 00:14:09.238 --> 00:14:12.408
- teach you about yourself,
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- and the strong will thatwe can possess sometimes
- 00:14:15.177 --> 00:14:18.447
- I know that's definitelywhat it's taught me.
- 00:14:18.447 --> 00:14:20.683
- I remember I was talkingto Lisa Harper one day
- 00:14:22.451 --> 00:14:25.020
- and she was talkingabout something
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- that the Lord asked her to do.
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- And her response was no sir.
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- I feel like I saythat all the time.
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- No, sir, no, sir.
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- Instead of justwanting to do it,
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- try to give him therespectful disobedient answer,
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- but there is no respectfuldisobedient answer.
- 00:14:39.568 --> 00:14:42.805
- And so I've just learnedabout my own strong will
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- and things I'm surethat my husband
- 00:14:45.607 --> 00:14:48.610
- has been trying totell me for years,
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- but especially as a momlooking at my sons and seeing,
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- Oh my goodness, thatstrong will, I know that.
- 00:14:55.150 --> 00:14:58.587
- And I've got to help them learnhow to walk after the Lord,
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- by being obedient aswell, telling my son,
- 00:15:04.760 --> 00:15:07.162
- my older son hey buddydoing the right thing
- 00:15:07.162 --> 00:15:11.233
- is about doing theright thing immediately.
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- Not doing the right thingafter you've thought about it,
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- or after you've heardabout the consequences,
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- it's doing the right thingimmediately (chuckles)
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- And to a three year old,he's not trying to hear that.
- 00:15:20.943 --> 00:15:25.948
- So but the reality isat my age, me either,
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- and that's what theLord has taught me.
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- It's just there arestill some lessons
- 00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:32.988
- that I wanna teach you.
- 00:15:32.988 --> 00:15:34.456
- There's still some thingsthat I want to get out
- 00:15:34.456 --> 00:15:36.625
- and radical obedience cansnatch you out of that thing.
- 00:15:36.625 --> 00:15:39.728
- And so it's a journey
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- and I've been walking withthe Lord for years now,
- 00:15:41.764 --> 00:15:44.900
- and I'm not a disobedientperson even by nature.
- 00:15:44.900 --> 00:15:48.737
- But the reality is I have thisstrong will that the Lord,
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- when I feel something aboutsomething in particular,
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- I want to do that,
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- or I want it to be that way
- 00:15:56.979 --> 00:15:58.514
- and just letting the Lordremind me like Hey, it's my way.
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- When I say that I am theway the truth and the life
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- that applies in every facetof life you can imagine.
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- I am the way do not makeyour own way ,I am the way.
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- So he just reminds meover and over again
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- and that way for sure.
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- - Yeah, I think tolot of the times,
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- When I've heard about obedient,
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- when we talk about obedience,
- 00:16:22.538 --> 00:16:24.807
- so often our mindsfirst jump to the cost.
- 00:16:24.807 --> 00:16:28.710
- what is that going to cost me?
- 00:16:28.710 --> 00:16:30.879
- What is the cost for me?
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- Or what am I going to lose?
- 00:16:33.449 --> 00:16:35.717
- And I really believethat the spirit of God
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- wants us to keep oureyes and our hearts fixed
- 00:16:38.187 --> 00:16:41.356
- on what the gain is inobedience to the Lord.
- 00:16:41.356 --> 00:16:46.361
- And when we're cost minded,we're self preservative.
- 00:16:47.763 --> 00:16:51.467
- But when we trust hisgoodness and his glory
- 00:16:51.467 --> 00:16:54.837
- and his sovereigntyand we know Lord,
- 00:16:54.837 --> 00:16:57.039
- if you're calling me to it thereis gain for myself in ways,
- 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:02.044
- spiritually spirituallife in abundant,
- 00:17:03.178 --> 00:17:04.413
- but there's alsogained for others.
- 00:17:04.413 --> 00:17:06.915
- His will, his heart is always
- 00:17:06.915 --> 00:17:09.751
- that not just thegospel would come to us,
- 00:17:09.751 --> 00:17:11.887
- but that it wouldmove through us.
- 00:17:11.887 --> 00:17:13.689
- And so I've at leastseen that a lot of times
- 00:17:13.689 --> 00:17:15.991
- his call to obedience my yes
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- makes a way for othersor blesses others.
- 00:17:19.928 --> 00:17:22.264
- And this may seem like sucha small, silly example,
- 00:17:22.264 --> 00:17:24.666
- but I have a lot,
- 00:17:24.666 --> 00:17:25.868
- I was totallyresonating with you
- 00:17:25.868 --> 00:17:27.503
- when Covid and everything hit,
- 00:17:27.503 --> 00:17:29.972
- our itineraryschedule just stopped
- 00:17:29.972 --> 00:17:32.808
- there wasn't we wereno longer speaker,
- 00:17:32.808 --> 00:17:34.576
- It was done everything wasjust sort of off the books.
- 00:17:34.576 --> 00:17:38.680
- And I remember sitting therereally just before the Lord,
- 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:43.685
- I trust you and I don't knowwhat this season looks like,
- 00:17:45.254 --> 00:17:48.257
- but have your way.
- 00:17:48.257 --> 00:17:50.192
- And he began to speakand move in ways.
- 00:17:50.192 --> 00:17:53.262
- The call to obediencelooked very different
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- from what I wanted to fight for,
- 00:17:56.031 --> 00:17:58.667
- from what I wantedwhich was still,
- 00:17:58.667 --> 00:18:01.336
- how do I make this wholeministry model work,
- 00:18:02.471 --> 00:18:04.206
- where we're still strikingwhile the iron is hot
- 00:18:04.206 --> 00:18:07.176
- and moving forward.
- 00:18:07.176 --> 00:18:08.410
- And he so rebuked meon that, to be honest.
- 00:18:08.410 --> 00:18:11.346
- And he said, ministry isadministering my gospel,
- 00:18:11.346 --> 00:18:14.516
- where I call youand how I call you.
- 00:18:14.516 --> 00:18:16.585
- And so I just satdown with him one day
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- and I said beforeon a past episode,
- 00:18:19.421 --> 00:18:22.324
- I have three kids,
- 00:18:22.324 --> 00:18:23.825
- I have a four year old, a twoyear old and a one year old.
- 00:18:23.825 --> 00:18:25.561
- And I just found out that
- 00:18:25.561 --> 00:18:26.795
- we're expecting ourfourth praise God.
- 00:18:26.795 --> 00:18:28.797
- But we also have a sweetnext door neighbor,
- 00:18:28.797 --> 00:18:30.999
- Maddie who is six
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- and we cared for herall through the summer
- 00:18:33.268 --> 00:18:35.804
- when sort of sub-Covidrestrictions lifted
- 00:18:35.804 --> 00:18:38.473
- and her parents hadto go back to work.
- 00:18:38.473 --> 00:18:40.075
- And they're like what do we do?
- 00:18:40.075 --> 00:18:41.009
- We don't have family near
- 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:42.477
- we'll then also theschools in this area
- 00:18:42.477 --> 00:18:44.713
- have gone all digital,the public schools.
- 00:18:44.713 --> 00:18:47.382
- And so I remember it justoverwhelmed me one day to
- 00:18:47.382 --> 00:18:51.286
- to reach out to hermom and say hey,
- 00:18:51.286 --> 00:18:53.055
- do you want us to continue this
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- and facilitate schoolingeven for your daughter
- 00:18:55.123 --> 00:18:57.693
- and reached out toother neighbors.
- 00:18:57.693 --> 00:18:59.494
- It just overwhelmed my heart,
- 00:18:59.494 --> 00:19:01.029
- the number of familieswho were in such unique
- 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:03.899
- and challengingpositions right now.
- 00:19:03.899 --> 00:19:06.134
- And I'm home I gotnowhere to travel.
- 00:19:06.134 --> 00:19:08.637
- I'm alreadywrangling the kiddos.
- 00:19:08.637 --> 00:19:10.806
- And so what's a few more?
- 00:19:10.806 --> 00:19:12.441
- and we now have seven kidswho are in under the roof
- 00:19:12.441 --> 00:19:16.144
- and it's wild and wonderful,
- 00:19:16.144 --> 00:19:18.146
- but they have structure,
- 00:19:18.146 --> 00:19:19.748
- they have help with school,
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- they have all the thingsthat so many are struggling
- 00:19:22.084 --> 00:19:25.254
- because they just,
- 00:19:25.254 --> 00:19:26.321
- especially in the Atlanta area,
- 00:19:26.321 --> 00:19:27.823
- there's just a lot of familieswho don't have the ability
- 00:19:27.823 --> 00:19:30.692
- to juggle all of thisand still make ends meet.
- 00:19:30.692 --> 00:19:33.295
- And I just thought Lord,
- 00:19:33.295 --> 00:19:34.630
- you're call to an obedience
- 00:19:34.630 --> 00:19:36.465
- was so invisible in this season.
- 00:19:36.465 --> 00:19:38.467
- And he just remindedme that's right.
- 00:19:38.467 --> 00:19:39.968
- I do Holy work in quiet caves.
- 00:19:39.968 --> 00:19:42.170
- I birth the savior of theworld in a quiet cave,
- 00:19:42.170 --> 00:19:44.473
- it was unseen.
- 00:19:44.473 --> 00:19:45.974
- I knit together life inthe quiet cave of a womb.
- 00:19:45.974 --> 00:19:48.410
- Like I'm in the prayerclosets and the quiet caves.
- 00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:51.313
- And I'm in thischaotic household
- 00:19:51.313 --> 00:19:53.215
- where kids are coming fromall different backgrounds,
- 00:19:53.215 --> 00:19:56.451
- but we're worshipingin the morning
- 00:19:56.451 --> 00:19:58.086
- and we're praying together
- 00:19:58.086 --> 00:19:59.354
- and they have safetyand provision.
- 00:19:59.354 --> 00:20:01.323
- And he was likejust walk with me,
- 00:20:01.323 --> 00:20:03.392
- Galatians 5:25,
- 00:20:03.392 --> 00:20:04.893
- "live by the spirit, stayin step with the spirit"
- 00:20:04.893 --> 00:20:06.261
- What does that looklike season to season?
- 00:20:06.261 --> 00:20:09.031
- Sometimes we think weknow which way to go.
- 00:20:09.031 --> 00:20:12.100
- And the Lord is the one whoreally directs our steps.
- 00:20:12.100 --> 00:20:14.770
- And so sometimes radicalobedience can look really small,
- 00:20:14.770 --> 00:20:17.606
- really hidden, really unseen.
- 00:20:17.606 --> 00:20:19.775
- And I think he says, good job.
- 00:20:19.775 --> 00:20:23.111
- Because that thenblesses others as well.
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- And our life shouldbe laid down for that,
- 00:20:26.214 --> 00:20:29.117
- by whatever means.
- 00:20:29.117 --> 00:20:30.352
- And so that's beenreally cool to see,
- 00:20:30.352 --> 00:20:31.887
- 'cause I like the radicalthat then results in big.
- 00:20:31.887 --> 00:20:34.623
- And he's like go wrangleall the time in humans.
- 00:20:34.623 --> 00:20:37.626
- - Can we just clap it up forMo because all those kids.
- 00:20:39.061 --> 00:20:41.730
- (clapping)
- 00:20:41.730 --> 00:20:43.699
- - I tell you I'm in mymother's den right now.
- 00:20:43.699 --> 00:20:46.168
- And this is a great vacation
- 00:20:46.168 --> 00:20:47.869
- - I love it.
- 00:20:49.938 --> 00:20:51.173
- - Am like how doyou feel about me
- 00:20:51.173 --> 00:20:52.207
- shipping my four kids to you?
- 00:20:52.207 --> 00:20:54.042
- How do you feel about that?
- 00:20:54.042 --> 00:20:55.277
- What's that four more?
- 00:20:55.277 --> 00:20:56.611
- - Send them over
- 00:20:56.611 --> 00:20:58.447
- - Yeah, I was thinkingI have a four boys
- 00:20:58.447 --> 00:21:01.883
- and I had four in five years.
- 00:21:01.883 --> 00:21:03.885
- So they're in thisreally condensed
- 00:21:03.885 --> 00:21:07.723
- like the little locker room,
- 00:21:07.723 --> 00:21:10.125
- but one of the things thatwe try to say in our house
- 00:21:10.125 --> 00:21:12.861
- from early age is Iwould tell my boys,
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- I want you to obey right away
- 00:21:15.664 --> 00:21:17.699
- all the way and witha happy heart, right?
- 00:21:17.699 --> 00:21:20.635
- So when they werelittle they loved it
- 00:21:20.635 --> 00:21:22.938
- as they've gotten olderit's world challenge.
- 00:21:22.938 --> 00:21:25.140
- But you know I wouldsay that to them.
- 00:21:25.140 --> 00:21:26.775
- What do I want you to do I?
- 00:21:26.775 --> 00:21:28.009
- I want you to obeyall the way right away
- 00:21:28.009 --> 00:21:29.344
- with a happy heart.
- 00:21:29.344 --> 00:21:30.846
- And I remember one day I wasgetting on my eldest son.
- 00:21:30.846 --> 00:21:33.248
- And just like Iasked you to obey me
- 00:21:33.248 --> 00:21:35.450
- all the way right awaywith a happy heart.
- 00:21:35.450 --> 00:21:37.919
- And you did whatI asked you to do,
- 00:21:37.919 --> 00:21:39.788
- but you are not happy andyou did not do it right away.
- 00:21:39.788 --> 00:21:42.724
- And the Holy spirit said, whydon't you obey me like that
- 00:21:42.724 --> 00:21:46.228
- I was like Aww,
- 00:21:46.228 --> 00:21:47.729
- but the Holy spiritjust so clearly.
- 00:21:48.864 --> 00:21:50.799
- Are you obeying meright away all the way
- 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.701
- and with a happy heart?
- 00:21:52.701 --> 00:21:54.102
- And I'm like whydidn't, really like,
- 00:21:54.102 --> 00:21:56.538
- but I'm an adult Ihave adult problems.
- 00:21:56.538 --> 00:21:58.507
- - Practice what you preach
- 00:21:58.507 --> 00:22:00.542
- - Yeah yeah yeah but itwas a little bit of like,
- 00:22:00.542 --> 00:22:03.879
- Oh, obedience iswith a happy heart.
- 00:22:03.879 --> 00:22:06.681
- So obedience isn'tjust like fine,
- 00:22:06.681 --> 00:22:09.351
- I'll do it God I've gotnothing better to do.
- 00:22:09.351 --> 00:22:11.887
- It really requires us tohumble ourselves and say,
- 00:22:11.887 --> 00:22:14.923
- and I'm gonna do itwith joy and gratitude.
- 00:22:14.923 --> 00:22:17.526
- And I don't know about you guys,
- 00:22:17.526 --> 00:22:19.161
- but right now gratitude'sreally hard to find,
- 00:22:19.161 --> 00:22:23.198
- especially in a pandemic,
- 00:22:23.198 --> 00:22:24.433
- it is hard to find andI'm challenging myself.
- 00:22:24.433 --> 00:22:29.171
- I don't know Laurie,
- 00:22:29.171 --> 00:22:30.405
- did you guys do thatwith your boys at all?
- 00:22:30.405 --> 00:22:31.673
- And did you have anyphrases that you use
- 00:22:31.673 --> 00:22:33.408
- to (indistinct)listening to you?
- 00:22:33.408 --> 00:22:35.544
- - You know my husband calledit willful disobedience,
- 00:22:35.544 --> 00:22:40.282
- and I didn't think that I hadreally heard it put like that,
- 00:22:40.282 --> 00:22:44.186
- but I remember him kind ofbeing hard on the boys sometimes
- 00:22:44.186 --> 00:22:47.422
- and that they didn't do it quick
- 00:22:47.422 --> 00:22:49.124
- and with a happyheart and all that,
- 00:22:49.124 --> 00:22:50.826
- that he would go okay,
- 00:22:50.826 --> 00:22:52.294
- you're in trouble becauseyou just willfully disobeyed.
- 00:22:52.294 --> 00:22:55.096
- And I was like willfullydisobeyed, but you know what?
- 00:22:55.096 --> 00:22:57.766
- We look at thechildren of Israel,
- 00:22:57.766 --> 00:22:59.968
- we look back in theBible and they talk about
- 00:22:59.968 --> 00:23:03.738
- all the murmuringand all that stuff
- 00:23:03.738 --> 00:23:06.074
- even though God had suppliedthis pillar of fire,
- 00:23:06.074 --> 00:23:10.779
- this cloud by day,
- 00:23:10.779 --> 00:23:12.948
- manna every morning,
- 00:23:12.948 --> 00:23:14.583
- and yet we can look atthem and just say, Oh,
- 00:23:14.583 --> 00:23:18.220
- you complained allthe way through.
- 00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:21.590
- And then you can put thatspotlight right on us.
- 00:23:21.590 --> 00:23:23.725
- What if the Bible was beingwritten today about us?
- 00:23:23.725 --> 00:23:28.730
- What if our lives, whatabout our situation?
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- The famine and the droughtand the plague came
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- and the fire came,
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- what is our attitude?
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- We serve this beautiful livingGod that supplies for us,
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- maybe you have had prayers
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- that haven't been answeredyet the way you think,
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- but you know what?
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- God is going toanswer our prayers.
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- God is going to see hiswill set forth in our lives
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- and we have to trust andwe have to believe that.
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- And we have to beobedient in God,
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- we pray today foreveryone watching
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- God for us Lord that we willbe quick to obey your spirit
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- quick to obey your voice.
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- God as you want topour out your spirit
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- and then you want to bless,
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- and you want to show yourselfso real in our lives.
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- God let us be openvessels to you.
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- Ones that pour out your life,
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- giving water God to a hurting,hopeless, desperate world
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- that is lost without you God
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- let us shine your light
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- father, to thepeople around us God,
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- and continue to be the righteous
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- and to walk by faithevery step of the way
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- father and I thank you forit in Jesus name. Amen.
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- You know our bettertogether community
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- is always here for you.
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- You can connect withus on social media
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- and let us know howwe can pray for you.
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- Thanks for joiningall of these sweet,
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- beautiful women today.
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- Allowing God to change ourhearts is the boldest step
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- that we can take towards freedom
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- tomorrow We're going to betalking about repentance.
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- We'll see you thenGod bless you,
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- we love you, bye bye.
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