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A Simple Guide to Walking on Water: Risk

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  • Bobby Schuller: Today we get to talk to Tim Timmons,
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  • a worship leader and a man of God,
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  • doing awesome things in the church.
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  • He also has an amazing story about his battle with cancer.
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  • Would you please welcome with us Tim Timmons?
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  • Hi, Tim. Why don't you just update us,
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  • or tell us a little bit about your journey with cancer, and--?
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  • Tim Timmons: Yeah. Well, last time, I guess I would have
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  • said that 13 years ago I was given 5 years to live.
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  • And today I get to sit before you and say that 15 years ago
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  • I was given 5 years to live, which is pretty great math.
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  • Bobby: Yeah.
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  • Tim: Yeah, I often say, and I probably said this last time,
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  • that cancer's not my story.
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  • Like, what a silly story if cancer is my story,
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  • or whatever you're walking through right now.
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  • If that is your story, that is a,
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  • that's a troublesome story, right?
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  • But it's the perspective that we get when we walk through sorrow
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  • and calamity and pain, that it's the real story of,
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  • like, what if Jesus is actually real and actually at work in the
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  • midst of our stuff?
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  • Bobby: So when I met you the first time,
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  • we were talkin' about this earlier,
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  • we had breakfast at Mother's Market.
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  • Tim: Yes, we did.
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  • Bobby: And this was like, what, 10, 11 years ago.
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  • And I think you'd been diagnosed 3 years ago
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  • that you have 5 years to live.
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  • So you had this, sort of, ticking clock probably in your
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  • head or in your heart.
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  • And one of the amazing things about that that I love is that
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  • you and your wife, you guys had kids.
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  • You continued to just live life.
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  • And you decided not to allow those 5 years to--right?
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  • And that was, like, really impressive to me.
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  • Tell us a little bit, like, why did you have,
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  • like, why'd you have kids, for example?
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  • Tim: My wife's a babe, number one.
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  • We're married 18 years.
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  • And so whatever on that.
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  • But my wife, early on, I said, "Honey,
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  • if you don't wanna have kids, I totally get it. I get this."
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  • And she said, "No, we're gonna live as though
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  • you're gonna be healed."
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  • And since then, you know, because cancer does not define
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  • me, I woke up today, right?
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  • You woke up today, right?
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  • Just for fun, raise your right hand,
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  • please, and repeat after me: "I woke up today."
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  • Bobby: I woke up today.
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  • Tim: Okay, so Jesus, his great invitation to us is,
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  • "You guys, don't worry about tomorrow.
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  • That's not yours to--I mean, go ahead,
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  • if that's what you wanna do, but it's not worth it.
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  • And just hang out today. You woke up today."
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  • That's perspective, right?
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  • Bobby: Yeah, that's right. Amen.
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  • Tim: So, I mean, I woke up today, and we keep wakin' up.
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  • And Jesus keeps wakin' me up.
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  • And so today I get to have more kids,
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  • and try for more kids, and yeah.
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  • Bobby: You know, kids, for example,
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  • is a big way of saying, "We're gonna step out in faith.
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  • And I'm gonna believe and trust that,
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  • you know, that this appraisal of my situation,
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  • that God is bigger than that.
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  • And that if--" I just think that's the way for
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  • Christians to live life.
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  • Exactly like you said, "Don't worry tomorrow."
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  • And you're really big, like, perspective is,
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  • like, a big part of how you not only live but teach others to
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  • navigate through these kinds of traumatic trials in life.
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  • Tell me a little bit about that.
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  • I mean, we've talked about it before, but--
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  • Tim: Yeah, perspective is the great gift.
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  • I mean, that is the great gift of the fact that,
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  • you know, I think, you and I grew up as pretty varsity
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  • American Christians, who, and we were awesome at we did.
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  • We knew the thing.
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  • But then, all of a sudden, when Jesus apprehended our hearts,
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  • and the only thing Jesus talks about,
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  • which you talk about all the time,
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  • which we, because it's what Jesus talked about,
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  • is the availability of the kingdom of God, right?
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  • Bobby: Yeah, that's right.
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  • Tim: Because of that, it's just,
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  • it's this new perspective of going,
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  • "Oh, I'm not the king anymore.
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  • He's always at work everywhere."
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  • And it just changes, I think when we walk through our lives,
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  • it's like my daughter prayed for me
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  • before I went on tour somewhere.
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  • She said, "Jesus, would you be with Daddy
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  • as he goes out on tour?"
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  • Totally.
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  • I was like, "She's heard me pray that prayer a million times.
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  • "Jesus, would you--?"
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  • It's like me saying right now,
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  • "Jesus, would you be with us today as we gather?"
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  • And he's like, "Yeah.
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  • Yeah, I'll hang out with you today."
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  • No, that's absurd.
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  • That's an absurd prayer that I taught my daughter.
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  • He is always at work, always present, always.
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  • Emmanuel, God with us, is not just December 25th.
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  • It's all year round.
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  • So the idea of perspective of, like,
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  • "No, Jesus, not would you be with us. You are with us.
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  • Where are you at work in my situation?
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  • And I wanna join you in it."
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  • Does that make sense?
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  • Bobby: It makes sense to me.
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  • So music is your thing then.
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  • What do you hope your music does then?
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  • Tim: I hope it invites people into a revolution.
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  • And I hope it moves believers about Jesus
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  • to become followers of Jesus.
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  • And I started a blog a few months back called,
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  • "10000Minutes.com" and every day I'm writing on it.
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  • 'Cause there are 10.080 minutes in a week.
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  • Just trust me. Or Google it.
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  • And 80 of those minutes are in a room like this,
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  • which is awesome.
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  • Keep gathering, church.
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  • But there are 10.000 other minutes during the week, right?
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  • So I just, I wanna be found living and encouraging people in
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  • the 10.000 minutes.
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  • How does this invite us to actually follow Jesus and
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  • represent him all week long?
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  • So that's what I get most excited about.
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  • Music just happens to put me in front
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  • of a lot of people, so.
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  • Bobby: That's awesome, Tim.
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  • Well, we love and appreciate ya, and really do believe in the
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  • kingdom of God, and it totally emanates from your life.
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  • And today we're actually gonna be talking about taking risks,
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  • and about having courage.
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  • And so it's so perfect that you're here.
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  • I mean, the timing is just totally from God.
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  • So you're gonna lead us in some music today.
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  • And I just wanna remind everybody.
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  • Check out the 10.000--what is that website again?
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  • Tim: Ten thousand minutes, 1-0-0-0-0Minutes.com.
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  • Bobby: Okay, 1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0Minutes.com.
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  • Tim: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  • Or 8, 10 million, right, right, right. Yeah.
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  • Bobby: Oh, right. Thank you, Tim.
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  • And let's give him a hand of welcome.
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  • He's gonna play for us and guide us.
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  • Lord, we thank you.
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  • Tim: All right.
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • Pieces shattered.
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  • Questions unanswered.
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  • I'm broken and weathered.
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  • And you hold me together.
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  • 'Cause even in the battle you are good,
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  • you are good.
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  • Even in the struggles I have never understood.
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  • Be it joy or pain still my life will say you are God
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  • and you are good.
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  • and you are good.
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  • and you are good.
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  • And you say that you won't leave, no.
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  • And you say you love me.
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  • So I'll trust you with this day.
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  • Yeah, I'll trust you to lead the way.
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  • Even in the battle you are good, you are good.
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  • Even in the struggles I have never understood.
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  • Be it joy or pain still my life will say you are God
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  • and you are good.
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  • So I'll praise you.
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  • Not that I have to.
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  • Not that I ought to, but that I may.
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  • 'Cause I woke up today, right?
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  • I'll praise you.
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  • Not that I have to.
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  • Not that I ought to, but that I may.
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  • 'Cause we woke up, let's pray this together, c'mon
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  • I'll praise you.
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  • Not that I have to.
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  • Not that I have to.
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  • Not that I ought to.
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  • Not that I ought to, but that I may, oh.
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  • I'll praise you.
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  • Not that I have to.
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  • Not that I ought to.
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  • Not that I ought to, but that I may, oh.
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  • Even in the battle you are good, you are good.
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  • Even through the struggles I have never understood.
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  • Be it joy or pain still my life will say that you are God
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  • and you are even in the battle you are good,
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  • God, it's you who are good.
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  • Even through the struggles I have never,
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  • never understood.
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  • Be it joy, be it pain still my life will say you are God
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  • and you are good.
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  • Oh, you are still God and you are good.
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  • [music]
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  • [congregation applauding]
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  • Bobby: So, welcome to you.
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  • We're so glad that you are watching with us today.
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  • And we believe that God has a Word for you.
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  • If you're ever in Orange County, or LA,
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  • come down to Shepherd's Grove and worship for us.
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  • We have a seat all warmed up just for you.
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  • So come down. We'd love for you to be here.
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  • Friends, would you hold your hands out like this as sign of
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  • both giving and receiving?
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  • And we're gonna say this creed together: "I'm not what I do.
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  • I'm not what I have.
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  • I'm not what people say about me.
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  • I am the beloved of God.
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  • It's who I am.
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  • No one can take it from me.
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  • I don't have to worry.
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  • I don't have to hurry.
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  • I can trust my friend Jesus and share his love with the world."
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  • Thanks, you can be seated.
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  • Well, today we are continuing our conversation on faith.
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  • Our series is called, "A Simple Guide to Walking on Water."
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  • And I just know that whatever it is that you're facing in life,
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  • you need faith.
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  • When I was a kid, I had a big fear of water.
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  • And that's a problem growing up in the summer,
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  • especially here in Southern California.
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  • And I remember once I was at the beach with my parents and a
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  • couple of my friends.
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  • And the waves were particularly big that day.
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  • And I was maybe 8 or 9 years old.
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  • I was still a kid.
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  • But I saw all my other, you know,
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  • friends, going out in the water, and they were swimming,
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  • and they were having a good time,
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  • and they were getting beat up by the waves.
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  • And I was just sitting, going, "Oh, that's interesting."
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  • And my dad goes, "Go out there and play with them."
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  • And I said, "Oh, that's, you know, I'm all right."
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  • And my dad's like, "Well, they're having fun without you.
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  • They're asking you to go out there.
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  • Go out and play with them."
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  • And I'm like, "Dad, I'm fine."
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  • He goes, "You're scared of those waves, aren't you?"
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  • I was like, "I am not scared of those humongous waves."
  • 00:12:42.050 --> 00:12:45.010
  • And without a word--this makes my dad sound like such a jerk.
  • 00:12:45.020 --> 00:12:52.150
  • He's not. He's a sweet guy.
  • 00:12:52.160 --> 00:12:54.070
  • Without a word, he was working out then too.
  • 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.130
  • I wanna say he was 36 and his biceps were like
  • 00:12:56.140 --> 00:12:59.100
  • [exploding noises]
  • 00:12:59.110 --> 00:13:02.010
  • He reaches over and like,
  • 00:13:02.020 --> 00:13:03.120
  • just with one arm, grabs me like this.
  • 00:13:03.130 --> 00:13:06.020
  • And slowly, which is torture, you know?
  • 00:13:06.030 --> 00:13:08.210
  • Like, as soon as he comes close, I try to get up to get away
  • 00:13:08.220 --> 00:13:11.240
  • 'cause I know what's gonna happen.
  • 00:13:11.250 --> 00:13:13.040
  • And just with one slow arm, just takes me like this and starts
  • 00:13:13.050 --> 00:13:16.110
  • walking towards the water.
  • 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:17.270
  • Like, you know, Goliath or something.
  • 00:13:17.280 --> 00:13:21.010
  • And I'm going, "No, Dad! No!"
  • 00:13:21.020 --> 00:13:24.170
  • I'm totally, like, this is not exaggeration,
  • 00:13:24.180 --> 00:13:26.000
  • full-on screaming, clawing.
  • 00:13:26.010 --> 00:13:27.260
  • I'm trying to go for his eyes.
  • 00:13:27.270 --> 00:13:30.090
  • He's holding me like this.
  • 00:13:30.100 --> 00:13:32.130
  • And these waves, at the time I felt like they were
  • 00:13:32.140 --> 00:13:34.170
  • 10 feet higher, they were probably a foot.
  • 00:13:34.180 --> 00:13:36.070
  • But anyway, he's taking me into the water.
  • 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.010
  • And he's like, "All right, here's what you gotta do.
  • 00:13:38.020 --> 00:13:40.190
  • Here comes a big one.
  • 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.070
  • You gotta dip underwater when it comes."
  • 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.110
  • And I'm like, "No, please, no!"
  • 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:46.130
  • And then the wave comes and he goes [splashing]
  • 00:13:46.140 --> 00:13:49.220
  • Just, like, you know, it was some kind of a Superman,
  • 00:13:49.230 --> 00:13:52.040
  • like, right into the wave.
  • 00:13:52.050 --> 00:13:54.030
  • And I just get nailed by this wave.
  • 00:13:54.040 --> 00:13:56.220
  • And he goes, "All right, are you okay?"
  • 00:13:56.230 --> 00:13:58.170
  • I'm like, "No, I hate you."
  • 00:13:58.180 --> 00:14:00.220
  • And he goes, "Okay, here comes another one."
  • 00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:03.110
  • [airplane noises]
  • 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:04.240
  • And this keeps happening over and over,
  • 00:14:04.250 --> 00:14:06.070
  • until finally, he's like, "Just watch. This is what you do."
  • 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:10.080
  • And he just walked me through it.
  • 00:14:10.090 --> 00:14:11.180
  • And he stayed with me, holding me with his big,
  • 00:14:11.190 --> 00:14:14.260
  • big arms, so this big, you know, burly man.
  • 00:14:14.270 --> 00:14:18.060
  • And he just said, "We're gonna stay here until you're not
  • 00:14:18.070 --> 00:14:20.250
  • afraid of these waves anymore."
  • 00:14:20.260 --> 00:14:22.150
  • And that's exactly what happened.
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:24.230
  • By the time we finished, I was not that afraid of waves
  • 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.280
  • anymore, you know?
  • 00:14:28.290 --> 00:14:31.240
  • But it really, it helped.
  • 00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:34.230
  • And I just wanna say, you know, being a dad now and having kids,
  • 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:38.280
  • I know why, and I know God does these kinds of things
  • 00:14:38.290 --> 00:14:46.020
  • in our lives.
  • 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:47.120
  • It's enough to make you angry sometimes,
  • 00:14:47.130 --> 00:14:49.280
  • to say, "Why am I going through all of this?"
  • 00:14:49.290 --> 00:14:52.060
  • You know, I wanna be careful.
  • 00:14:52.070 --> 00:14:53.160
  • Like, if you're, you know, if you're facing a sickness,
  • 00:14:53.170 --> 00:14:56.220
  • God didn't make you sick.
  • 00:14:56.230 --> 00:14:59.080
  • If you're facing abject poverty, God did not make you poor.
  • 00:14:59.090 --> 00:15:03.020
  • But I wanna convince you that whatever challenge it is that
  • 00:15:03.030 --> 00:15:05.190
  • you're going through, God is not going to let you sink.
  • 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:11.200
  • He's not going to leave you alone.
  • 00:15:11.210 --> 00:15:14.030
  • And not only is he going to be with you as you get out,
  • 00:15:14.040 --> 00:15:16.190
  • he's gonna show you that you're just the kind of person
  • 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.000
  • that can get through this.
  • 00:15:19.010 --> 00:15:20.100
  • The Scripture reading today was the famous one about actually
  • 00:15:20.110 --> 00:15:23.170
  • walking on water.
  • 00:15:23.180 --> 00:15:24.270
  • And it was the passage about Peter walking on water.
  • 00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:29.070
  • And if you've been to this church at all,
  • 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:30.220
  • you know this.
  • 00:15:30.230 --> 00:15:32.130
  • That in Judaism, especially in the 1st century,
  • 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:35.190
  • when Jesus said, "Follow me," to follow a rabbi didn't mean to
  • 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.240
  • just go where the rabbi goes.
  • 00:15:38.250 --> 00:15:40.140
  • It meant to do what the rabbi does.
  • 00:15:40.150 --> 00:15:42.290
  • If you were called to be a disciple of a rabbi,
  • 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.190
  • you were being trained to be a rabbi yourself.
  • 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.240
  • You can actually see this today in Orthodox Judaism.
  • 00:15:48.250 --> 00:15:50.230
  • If you go to Jerusalem, you will actually see an older rabbi and
  • 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.170
  • a bunch of younger boys in their teens following behind him,
  • 00:15:54.180 --> 00:15:59.150
  • doing everything that he does.
  • 00:15:59.160 --> 00:16:02.060
  • And in Jesus' day, to follow a rabbi meant to do
  • 00:16:02.070 --> 00:16:06.020
  • everything the rabbi does.
  • 00:16:06.030 --> 00:16:08.020
  • So if the rabbi writes left handed,
  • 00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:09.270
  • you need to learn to write left handed.
  • 00:16:09.280 --> 00:16:11.220
  • If the rabbi tells jokes, you need to start telling jokes.
  • 00:16:11.230 --> 00:16:15.100
  • They would literally, like, if there would be footprints in the
  • 00:16:15.110 --> 00:16:18.090
  • sand, they would step, sometimes,
  • 00:16:18.100 --> 00:16:21.040
  • in the actual footprints of their rabbi.
  • 00:16:21.050 --> 00:16:23.130
  • So they were trying to become clones of the rabbi that they
  • 00:16:23.140 --> 00:16:27.110
  • were following.
  • 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.220
  • So they begin to do, through this story,
  • 00:16:28.230 --> 00:16:31.100
  • all these amazing things.
  • 00:16:31.110 --> 00:16:32.200
  • Well, this story of Peter walking on water is just that.
  • 00:16:32.210 --> 00:16:36.030
  • It's Peter responding to the idea that disciples are supposed
  • 00:16:36.040 --> 00:16:42.050
  • to do what rabbis do.
  • 00:16:42.060 --> 00:16:45.130
  • So it was after the feeding of the 5.000,
  • 00:16:45.140 --> 00:16:47.150
  • this famous story.
  • 00:16:47.160 --> 00:16:49.010
  • Jesus says, "I'm gonna dismiss everyone now that they've eaten.
  • 00:16:49.020 --> 00:16:51.160
  • And I want you to go out on the boat.
  • 00:16:51.170 --> 00:16:53.000
  • And I'll meet you out there."
  • 00:16:53.010 --> 00:16:54.100
  • I don't know if he says that,
  • 00:16:54.110 --> 00:16:55.200
  • but this is certainly what's gonna happen.
  • 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:57.000
  • So they go out on the boat. Jesus dismisses everyone.
  • 00:16:57.010 --> 00:17:00.100
  • And he goes up on the mountain to pray.
  • 00:17:00.110 --> 00:17:01.220
  • And now it's nighttime.
  • 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:03.160
  • And the wind is blowing.
  • 00:17:03.170 --> 00:17:05.150
  • It's so important to understand what water means for Jews in the
  • 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.090
  • 1st century too.
  • 00:17:08.100 --> 00:17:09.220
  • For many people back then, there's a mystic quality to
  • 00:17:09.230 --> 00:17:13.270
  • water because wherever you find water,
  • 00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:17.110
  • you find life.
  • 00:17:17.120 --> 00:17:19.110
  • But there's also a scary thing about water.
  • 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:21.100
  • When there were big bodies of water,
  • 00:17:21.110 --> 00:17:23.060
  • they believed, some, that it was actually a gateway to hell.
  • 00:17:23.070 --> 00:17:27.110
  • In fact, many people back then, not only couldn't swim,
  • 00:17:27.120 --> 00:17:31.100
  • but didn't swim because they were afraid of the Leviathan,
  • 00:17:31.110 --> 00:17:34.260
  • which was essentially like the Loch Ness Monster.
  • 00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:37.060
  • We'll just shoot straight, okay?
  • 00:17:37.070 --> 00:17:38.160
  • That there's some kind of Loch Ness Monster in the Sea of
  • 00:17:38.170 --> 00:17:41.140
  • Galilee, and that when this sort of monster-demon thing gets
  • 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:46.070
  • angry, it starts to swirl up weather and the water.
  • 00:17:46.080 --> 00:17:50.040
  • So there's this big looming fear.
  • 00:17:50.050 --> 00:17:52.150
  • It's very likely most of these guys,
  • 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.060
  • I know it seems crazy because they're fishermen,
  • 00:17:54.070 --> 00:17:56.160
  • there's a good chance that they couldn't swim.
  • 00:17:56.170 --> 00:17:58.150
  • In fact, I'm willing to bet they couldn't swim.
  • 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.040
  • And there was a spiritual dimension that they believed
  • 00:18:00.050 --> 00:18:02.210
  • that this big body of water was a gateway to hell.
  • 00:18:02.220 --> 00:18:05.140
  • And so, they're out on the boat, and Jesus is up on the hill.
  • 00:18:05.150 --> 00:18:11.160
  • And this storm starts swirling.
  • 00:18:11.170 --> 00:18:14.030
  • And the wind starts blowing.
  • 00:18:14.040 --> 00:18:15.170
  • And it says, "They're not able to get back to shore."
  • 00:18:15.180 --> 00:18:17.120
  • They're tryin' to get back, but the wind is pushing their boat
  • 00:18:17.130 --> 00:18:19.220
  • away from the shore, and it's nighttime.
  • 00:18:19.230 --> 00:18:22.240
  • So they're already freaked out, right?
  • 00:18:22.250 --> 00:18:25.070
  • And all of a sudden, here comes Jesus,
  • 00:18:25.080 --> 00:18:27.290
  • on the water, walking.
  • 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.110
  • And they see him.
  • 00:18:30.120 --> 00:18:31.210
  • And at first they get totally terrified.
  • 00:18:31.220 --> 00:18:34.190
  • They think it's a ghost or a spirit or something.
  • 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.230
  • They're about to lose their minds.
  • 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.030
  • And Jesus says, "Oh, it's me, guys.
  • 00:18:39.040 --> 00:18:40.130
  • Hey, I'm just walking on water."
  • 00:18:40.140 --> 00:18:45.030
  • So they see this miracle.
  • 00:18:45.040 --> 00:18:46.190
  • They see Jesus in one of his most famous miracles,
  • 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.140
  • walking on water.
  • 00:18:49.150 --> 00:18:51.070
  • They all see it. They all write about it.
  • 00:18:51.080 --> 00:18:53.250
  • And then, in a way, the more amazing thing happens.
  • 00:18:53.260 --> 00:18:57.140
  • Peter says to Jesus, "Lord, ask me to come out to you,
  • 00:18:57.150 --> 00:19:03.130
  • and I will."
  • 00:19:03.140 --> 00:19:05.060
  • And Jesus says, "Come."
  • 00:19:05.070 --> 00:19:07.030
  • Now, here's the amazing thing.
  • 00:19:07.040 --> 00:19:10.040
  • Peter gets out of the boat and he begins to walk on water to
  • 00:19:10.050 --> 00:19:15.200
  • Jesus, one step at a time.
  • 00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:18.020
  • It's dark.
  • 00:19:18.030 --> 00:19:19.120
  • The wind is blowing. The rain is coming down.
  • 00:19:19.130 --> 00:19:21.200
  • His friends behind him are watching.
  • 00:19:21.210 --> 00:19:23.040
  • What would it feel like, by the way,
  • 00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:25.000
  • to get out and start walking on water towards Jesus?
  • 00:19:25.010 --> 00:19:27.210
  • I wonder.
  • 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:29.190
  • And so he's walking, and he begins to doubt.
  • 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.100
  • He begins to get afraid.
  • 00:19:33.110 --> 00:19:35.000
  • And he takes his eyes off of Christ,
  • 00:19:35.010 --> 00:19:36.200
  • and he begins to put them on the waves.
  • 00:19:36.210 --> 00:19:38.020
  • And he begins to sink.
  • 00:19:38.030 --> 00:19:39.120
  • And I picture him sinking slowly,
  • 00:19:39.130 --> 00:19:40.220
  • like he's sinking into Jell-O instead of water, I don't know.
  • 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:44.070
  • And the story says that Jesus reaches down and he grabs him.
  • 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:48.030
  • And the Scripture says, "Jesus says to him,
  • 00:19:48.040 --> 00:19:50.180
  • 'Why did you doubt?'" "Why did you doubt?"
  • 00:19:50.190 --> 00:19:54.030
  • Do you know what he means there when he's saying,
  • 00:19:54.040 --> 00:19:55.150
  • "Why did you doubt?"
  • 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:57.100
  • He's saying, "Why did you doubt that you could do what I can
  • 00:19:57.110 --> 00:20:00.250
  • do?"
  • 00:20:00.260 --> 00:20:02.120
  • That's exactly right.
  • 00:20:02.130 --> 00:20:05.040
  • Everybody that studies the Scriptures,
  • 00:20:05.050 --> 00:20:07.130
  • that reads the Scripture,
  • 00:20:07.140 --> 00:20:08.230
  • this is the right way to read this text.
  • 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.000
  • Not, you know, "Why did you doubt in this?"
  • 00:20:11.010 --> 00:20:13.180
  • It's, "Why did you doubt that you could walk on water just
  • 00:20:13.190 --> 00:20:17.240
  • like me?
  • 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:19.150
  • I've called you. I said, 'Come.'
  • 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:20.250
  • If I ask you to do something,
  • 00:20:20.260 --> 00:20:23.200
  • I'm gonna give you everything you need to accomplish it,
  • 00:20:23.210 --> 00:20:26.270
  • even if it means walking on water."
  • 00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:29.070
  • And I just wanna finish with this.
  • 00:20:29.080 --> 00:20:30.250
  • I've been talking a lot about surfing.
  • 00:20:30.260 --> 00:20:33.130
  • And I actually had a rough day a couple weeks ago.
  • 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:36.240
  • And it was just hard.
  • 00:20:36.250 --> 00:20:38.090
  • And so, I felt like the Lord called me to the ocean.
  • 00:20:38.100 --> 00:20:42.160
  • So I went to the ocean, and it was, you know, getting darker.
  • 00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:46.140
  • It was twilight.
  • 00:20:46.150 --> 00:20:48.130
  • And there were these waves.
  • 00:20:48.140 --> 00:20:50.250
  • And I put on some gym shorts 'cause I didn't have swim
  • 00:20:50.260 --> 00:20:52.290
  • trunks.
  • 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:54.090
  • And I just went out into the water to swim.
  • 00:20:54.100 --> 00:20:57.030
  • And the water was warm for California, still cool.
  • 00:20:57.040 --> 00:20:59.290
  • But I began to just pray.
  • 00:21:00.020 --> 00:21:02.200
  • And I was sort of swimming out in the water.
  • 00:21:02.210 --> 00:21:05.130
  • And I was remembering as a teenager and college all the
  • 00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:08.090
  • times I went surfing, and all the fun I'd had.
  • 00:21:08.100 --> 00:21:11.170
  • And I began to, you know, began to body surf.
  • 00:21:11.180 --> 00:21:16.090
  • I did lose my trunks one time.
  • 00:21:16.100 --> 00:21:17.230
  • It was okay. Just put them right back on.
  • 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:21.190
  • But I remember just floating out there in the water.
  • 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:24.010
  • And I remember thinking about God's grace,
  • 00:21:24.020 --> 00:21:28.130
  • and that living through life is a lot like surfing on grace.
  • 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:34.050
  • You know, "grace" doesn't mean "mercy."
  • 00:21:34.060 --> 00:21:37.070
  • You know that, right?
  • 00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:39.010
  • "Grace" doesn't mean "mercy."
  • 00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:41.140
  • "Grace" means "an overflow of God's favor,
  • 00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:45.020
  • power, and love."
  • 00:21:45.030 --> 00:21:47.180
  • It's so, we've limited it to this thing.
  • 00:21:47.190 --> 00:21:49.120
  • Like, "Oh, 'grace' means 'forgiveness.'"
  • 00:21:49.130 --> 00:21:51.280
  • It's so much more than that.
  • 00:21:51.290 --> 00:21:53.170
  • Jesus received grace when he was baptized.
  • 00:21:53.180 --> 00:21:55.210
  • Not for the forgiveness of sins, but for the empowerment to do
  • 00:21:55.220 --> 00:22:00.200
  • what God had called him to do, do what the
  • 00:22:00.210 --> 00:22:02.020
  • Father had called him to do.
  • 00:22:02.030 --> 00:22:03.120
  • Jesus was God.
  • 00:22:03.130 --> 00:22:05.130
  • And so, many of us, living life is like surfing on grace.
  • 00:22:05.140 --> 00:22:08.270
  • When surfers are out on the water,
  • 00:22:08.280 --> 00:22:12.180
  • they're always looking for a wave,
  • 00:22:12.190 --> 00:22:14.060
  • you know, and always looking for a big wave.
  • 00:22:14.070 --> 00:22:16.270
  • And you miss it all the time.
  • 00:22:16.280 --> 00:22:18.220
  • Sometimes you're too far out, or sometimes you're too far in.
  • 00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:22.090
  • But there's always another wave.
  • 00:22:22.100 --> 00:22:24.160
  • And sometimes you wipe out.
  • 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:26.160
  • But that just means you weren't ready.
  • 00:22:26.170 --> 00:22:28.190
  • You didn't go fast enough, or you're not trained enough.
  • 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:32.010
  • But most importantly, the thing you learn when you're surfing is
  • 00:22:32.020 --> 00:22:34.200
  • that even if there aren't waves, you're still enjoying it.
  • 00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:37.150
  • Because there's something about the gentle rhythm of waves
  • 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.110
  • coming in and out that lifts you and drops you,
  • 00:22:40.120 --> 00:22:43.000
  • the company of people, the refreshing nature of water
  • 00:22:43.010 --> 00:22:46.270
  • itself.
  • 00:22:46.280 --> 00:22:48.100
  • And so, many of you, you're in life,
  • 00:22:48.110 --> 00:22:50.170
  • and you've completely wiped out.
  • 00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:52.210
  • And I just wanna say to you, it's okay.
  • 00:22:52.220 --> 00:22:56.040
  • Another wave is coming.
  • 00:22:56.050 --> 00:22:58.010
  • And know that even as you're just sorta sitting and resting
  • 00:22:58.020 --> 00:23:00.280
  • on the water that grace is sustaining you.
  • 00:23:00.290 --> 00:23:04.010
  • Grace is holding you.
  • 00:23:04.020 --> 00:23:06.030
  • That whether or not you're surfing or not,
  • 00:23:06.040 --> 00:23:08.010
  • there is this, like water, this sustaining nature that no matter
  • 00:23:08.020 --> 00:23:13.110
  • where you are, you are not alone.
  • 00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:14.270
  • God is holding you, and it will be okay.
  • 00:23:14.280 --> 00:23:19.290
  • Some of you have failed miserably recently in some area
  • 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.290
  • of your life.
  • 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:25.110
  • And I just wanna say to you that just because you fail doesn't
  • 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:29.080
  • mean you're a failure.
  • 00:23:29.090 --> 00:23:31.060
  • It just means you haven't succeeded yet.
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  • It's gonna be okay.
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  • And I wanna encourage you to become the kind of person that
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  • lives in faith, that never quits,
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  • and never gives up.
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  • God is calling you to do great things for him.
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  • So be vulnerable.
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  • Take a risk.
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  • And be the kind of person that God has called you to be,
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  • in Jesus' name, amen.
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  • [congregation applauding]
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  • Bobby: Here's another letter that we got thanks
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  • to your support.
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  • female: Dear Bobby, at 19 my life collapsed.
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  • I was in an unhealthy relationship with an older man,
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  • and then my father died from cancer.
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  • They were my darkest days.
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  • I felt paralyzed and apathetic.
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  • When I was at my lowest, my boyfriend started to use me.
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  • He complained about me.
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  • And in the name of spicing up our relationship,
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  • he pressed me to be intimate with other men.
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  • I felt numb and worthless.
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  • Even as I write this, I feel the shame for allowing him to do
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  • this.
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  • I fantasized about ending my life to escape the suffering.
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  • During this time, I met a guy who saw me as a person
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  • and made me happy.
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  • Because of him, I finally left my abusive boyfriend.
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  • We started a new life in a new town,
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  • and he proposed months later.
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  • But still, inside I felt really hurt.
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  • I struggled because I didn't deserve this life.
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  • When someone was kind to me, it hurt me as much as it healed me.
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  • I felt I made too many mistakes to be loved.
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  • My life had turned around, but my spirit was broken.
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  • I was curious about religion, but didn't dare pray
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  • or go to church.
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  • What God would want me as his follower?
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  • Then I found "Hour of Power."
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  • Your sermons healed my spirit and lifted the burden
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  • of my past.
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  • I still remember tears of relief running down my cheeks when you
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  • said that, "Every sinner has a future and every saint
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  • has a past."
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  • And that, "God does not love us as we should be,
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  • but just as we are."
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  • I realized that God always loved me, and would forgive me.
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  • It still thrills me that he is so good.
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  • After we married, my first wish I ever prayed for was fulfilled
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  • with the birth of our son Hendrik.
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  • I pray for him every night.
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  • He is a precious gift from God.
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  • I no longer feel like a bad person.
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  • I feel beloved and that I'm allowed to experience happiness.
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  • I am so, so grateful.
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  • Thank you.
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  • Hannah Schuller: We're not using your name on air,
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  • but one highlight of my Holland trip was getting to meet you
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  • and your husband.
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  • You are brave.
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  • And we are honored to have as part of the
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  • "Hour of Power" family.
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  • Bobby: That's right. It was a highlight for me too.
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  • And for everybody else that's watching,
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  • this is just one of many stories of people that are deeply
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  • touched because of your generosity.
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  • If people stop giving to this ministry,
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  • this goes off the air.
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  • We don't help people anymore.
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  • But because of you, we're changing the world.
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  • Hannah: Yes, thank you for your faithfulness.
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  • And even if you can't give, write to us.
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  • Be brave. We want to hear your story.
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  • And remember that God loves you, and so do we.
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  • male announcer: To celebrate the 60th anniversary
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  • of our ministry, we have remade this beloved
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  • "God Loves You & So Do I" necklace.
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  • Today, when you donate $60 or more,
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  • we'll send you one as a small thank you
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  • for supporting our ministry.
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  • We hope it reminds you that you are loved
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  • and valued by God, and us.
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  • Call, write, or go online now.
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