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You Can Change

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  • - Brian Houston: Well, I love
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  • the Hillsong Conference.
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  • Now, for 30 years,
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  • starting in Australia,
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  • this conference has been
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  • all about blessing people
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  • everywhere.
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  • We're amazed at the lean in
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  • we get all around the world from
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  • pastors, churches, and believers
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  • who wanna grow together.
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  • The atmosphere within
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  • the conference is something
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  • to behold.
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  • So I want you to come
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  • on this journey and enjoy
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  • the experience for yourself.
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  • - Casey Treat: In this world
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  • we are Christians.
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  • In this world we are Christlike.
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  • In this world we can be
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  • the people that God created us
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  • to be.
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  • I'm just here today to say
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  • - Casey: Good morning.
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  • Give somebody a high five
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  • as you're being seated.
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  • We brought two things with us
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  • from Seattle.
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  • One's called "Be You."
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  • It's a little 30-day plan,
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  • a little 30-day process.
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  • And then our new book called
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  • "Renewing the Mind 2.0:
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  • With God's Grace
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  • You Can Change."
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  • I'll tell ya why that statement,
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  • "You can change," is important
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  • to me in a few moments.
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  • But what got me going back
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  • to this lesson again is because
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  • someone stopped me at church
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  • not long ago.
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  • And they said, "Pastor,
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  • I like coming to church,
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  • but what you say
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  • doesn't help me much.
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  • Because you don't understand.
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  • I have real problems."
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  • And I was kinda shaken by that
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  • because, as a pastor, you know,
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  • I'm always tryin' to relate
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  • to people, and help people
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  • with their real problems.
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  • But somehow, I couldn't connect
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  • with her.
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  • Something I was saying
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  • didn't reach her.
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  • And she looked at me as a guy
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  • on stage that didn't understand
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  • that what she was going through.
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  • Maybe you do that.
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  • We see these amazing leaders.
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  • Maybe we let Brian and Bobbie
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  • and all of the guests get
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  • a little bit larger than life.
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  • And we think
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  • they've got such great callings
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  • and anointings and abilities.
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  • And what they've done
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  • is so amazing.
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  • And then they stand on stage,
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  • and we're like,
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  • "Wow, that was awesome."
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  • Maybe it causes us to disconnect
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  • from reality a little bit,
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  • that these are just people
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  • who got saved.
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  • And no matter how long ago it
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  • was, today they're still trying
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  • to walk with God and be
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  • like him, and fulfill his plan,
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  • and honor him, and glorify him.
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  • And I think every one of them
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  • would say,
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  • "It is our heart's cry
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  • that at the end of the day,
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  • God doesn't say,
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  • 'Look how many people,'
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  • or, 'Look how many books,'
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  • or whatever, but he says,
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  • 'Well done,
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  • good and faithful servant.'"
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  • C'mon, let's give the Lord
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  • a handclap right there.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • 'Cause I believe
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  • that's all of our desire.
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  • And no matter
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  • if you're a brand-new Christian,
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  • or you've been walking with God
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  • for a while,
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  • or it's been decades,
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  • I think you are like me,
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  • and I am like you.
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  • We're just trying to be
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  • like him.
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  • And we're trying to find
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  • his plan and his purpose
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  • and his will for our life.
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  • And we're trying to do
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  • what he created us to do
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  • so we can stand before him
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  • and hear him say, "Well done,
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  • good and faithful servant."
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  • When I got saved at 19,
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  • I was in a drug rehab center,
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  • and I was so down,
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  • so discouraged.
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  • You know, 19 years old,
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  • you should be full
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  • of way too much testosterone.
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  • But I was full of a lot
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  • of other drugs, not natural.
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  • I was so down.
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  • I was fearful
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  • I was afraid of the future
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  • 'cause I had no vision.
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  • I felt bad about myself.
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  • I felt so awkward.
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  • In the first pages of the book
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  • I wrote a little paragraph
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  • that kinda described me:
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  • "My life,
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  • for the first 20 years, seemed
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  • to be a dream about someone I
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  • knew but can't clearly remember.
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  • I can recall how I lived,
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  • what I felt, how I struggled,
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  • but it seems like the life
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  • of someone else.
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  • I felt awkward, uncool,
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  • unable to do the things
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  • that would make my life better.
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  • I remember despising myself, and
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  • feeling so bound in my problems
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  • that I regularly thought
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  • about giving up."
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  • So that's where I was.
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  • And I started getting arrested.
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  • I got busted several times.
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  • Finally, my probation officer
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  • said, "If you'll go into
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  • a rehab center, the judge
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  • might let you stay there
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  • and not put you in prison."
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  • So I said, "Let's go to rehab.
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  • Sounds better than prison."
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  • I remember that first day
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  • my dad dropped me off.
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  • It kinda felt like everything
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  • was done, "I am at the bottom.
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  • I'm the worst of the worst.
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  • I'm a drug addict in rehab."
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  • I mean, if I had any ounce
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  • of dignity left,
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  • it was leaving quickly.
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  • And I sat in the hallway
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  • of the Washington Drug
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  • Rehabilitation Center.
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  • And I thought,
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  • "What's gonna happen?
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  • What am I gonna do?
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  • What am I gonna be?
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  • I am just totally lost."
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  • And I'd been to the counselors,
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  • and the therapists,
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  • and the classes, and the groups,
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  • and the doctors.
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  • I wanted something different.
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  • Had no idea how to get it.
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  • Here's what I looked like
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  • on that day.
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  • Here's the mug shot
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  • of the last time I got arrested.
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  • Uh-huh, I know,
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  • I wasn't a hardened criminal.
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  • I was just a spaced-out kid.
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  • And you know, the world wants
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  • to make it look so fun.
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  • It's not fun.
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  • Just being wasted,
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  • and just trying to medicate
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  • the pain of reality is not fun.
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  • It looks glamorous on TV
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  • in the show, but in reality
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  • I was just a miserable guy.
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  • And I'm sitting in the hallway,
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  • the entrance, of Washington Drug
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  • Rehabilitation Center,
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  • which was just an old house,
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  • and I met a man
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  • who I didn't realize would
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  • change everything in my life.
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  • This is what he looked like.
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  • His name was Julius.
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  • He was about 50 years old
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  • when I met him.
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  • And he'd been raised
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  • in Washington, D.C.
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  • At 14, they put him into
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  • some kind of detention center
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  • for 4 years.
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  • And he said to the judge,
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  • "Give me 40 years.
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  • Four is not enough."
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  • The judge said to him,
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  • "You'll be back.
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  • You'll probably get your 40,
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  • but let's start with 4 now."
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  • Well, he was back.
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  • He ended up doing 24 years
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  • in penitentiaries.
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  • Eventually, he ended up at the
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  • state penitentiary in the state
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  • of Washington.
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  • And while he was there,
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  • he met some Christian guys
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  • and he started to change.
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  • He didn't even know how or why.
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  • But finally,
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  • one day he prayed a prayer.
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  • He said, "God, if you could
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  • use me, I'll help young men
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  • not end up like I have."
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  • He was a heroin addict.
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  • He was a murderer.
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  • He was a convict.
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  • And he started this program
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  • called Washington Drug Center.
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  • Well, I walked in
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  • in the third month
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  • that it was open.
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  • Little did I know that months
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  • before, when I put my head
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  • in the pillow in a local jail
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  • and said, "God, I don't know
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  • what to do,
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  • but if you could help me,
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  • I want to change."
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  • About that same time Julius was
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  • in a penitentiary on the other
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  • side of the same state,
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  • and he was saying,
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  • "God, if you could use me."
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  • You don't know who else
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  • is praying when you're praying.
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  • C'mon, somebody.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • You don't know what God
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  • is setting up when you feel like
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  • all is lost.
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  • You don't realize your end
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  • - Casey: But soon after I was
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  • saved, I started having some
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  • of those same thoughts,
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  • those same feelings,
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  • those same anxieties
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  • that I remember
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  • in the rehab center.
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  • Feeling inadequate, feeling,
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  • "I don't know what to do."
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  • Feeling, "I don't know where
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  • to go."
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  • - Casey: And so I walked into
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  • Washington Drug Center.
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  • Here's what it looked like,
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  • little tiny house.
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  • I'm sitting right behind
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  • that door right there,
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  • that's over 40 years ago now,
  • 00:10:12.110 --> 00:10:15.110
  • freaked out, scared to death.
  • 00:10:15.110 --> 00:10:17.270
  • I'd used all the drugs
  • 00:10:17.270 --> 00:10:18.230
  • I could find that morning
  • 00:10:18.230 --> 00:10:20.040
  • to try to get through the day.
  • 00:10:20.040 --> 00:10:21.180
  • 'Cause that's what you do
  • 00:10:21.180 --> 00:10:22.070
  • when you go to rehab, you know,
  • 00:10:22.070 --> 00:10:23.080
  • you take all the drugs you got,
  • 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.000
  • get ready for it.
  • 00:10:26.210 --> 00:10:29.210
  • Julius walked in.
  • 00:10:29.210 --> 00:10:32.160
  • I stood up, you know?
  • 00:10:32.160 --> 00:10:33.130
  • I thought that's what
  • 00:10:33.130 --> 00:10:34.030
  • I was supposed to do.
  • 00:10:34.030 --> 00:10:35.140
  • He was shorter than I was.
  • 00:10:35.140 --> 00:10:37.040
  • I didn't know
  • 00:10:37.040 --> 00:10:38.020
  • what our future holds.
  • 00:10:38.020 --> 00:10:40.250
  • Julius looked up at me
  • 00:10:40.250 --> 00:10:42.080
  • and he said, "Big Red."
  • 00:10:42.260 --> 00:10:45.260
  • That became my name
  • 00:10:45.260 --> 00:10:47.170
  • from then on.
  • 00:10:47.170 --> 00:10:49.080
  • He said,
  • 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:49.260
  • "Big Red, you can change."
  • 00:10:50.260 --> 00:10:53.260
  • He knew me.
  • 00:10:53.260 --> 00:10:55.030
  • It's like he looked
  • 00:10:55.030 --> 00:10:55.220
  • into my soul.
  • 00:10:55.220 --> 00:10:57.130
  • He knew what it felt to be lost,
  • 00:10:57.130 --> 00:10:59.000
  • and be addicted, and to be sad,
  • 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.060
  • and medicated, and scared,
  • 00:11:01.060 --> 00:11:02.280
  • and in jail, and in prison, and
  • 00:11:02.280 --> 00:11:05.020
  • all that I was going through,
  • 00:11:05.020 --> 00:11:06.160
  • all the emotions,
  • 00:11:06.160 --> 00:11:07.080
  • and all the confusion.
  • 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:08.150
  • It's like he just knew it all.
  • 00:11:08.150 --> 00:11:11.010
  • And he looked into me and he
  • 00:11:11.010 --> 00:11:12.240
  • said, "You can change."
  • 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:16.100
  • He didn't say, "You have to."
  • 00:11:16.100 --> 00:11:18.050
  • He didn't say, "You better."
  • 00:11:18.050 --> 00:11:19.230
  • He just said, "You can."
  • 00:11:20.040 --> 00:11:23.040
  • And I've been tryin' to tell
  • 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:24.220
  • people ever since that day,
  • 00:11:25.150 --> 00:11:28.150
  • no matter what circumstance
  • 00:11:28.150 --> 00:11:30.040
  • you're in,
  • 00:11:30.040 --> 00:11:31.190
  • no matter what you feel
  • 00:11:31.190 --> 00:11:32.240
  • is not so good
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.020
  • and you wish it was different,
  • 00:11:34.020 --> 00:11:36.030
  • could be your own personal life.
  • 00:11:36.030 --> 00:11:39.010
  • It could be your own addictions.
  • 00:11:39.010 --> 00:11:40.070
  • It could be
  • 00:11:40.070 --> 00:11:40.250
  • your own private secrets.
  • 00:11:40.250 --> 00:11:42.070
  • It could be a marriage issue,
  • 00:11:42.070 --> 00:11:44.090
  • or a financial issue,
  • 00:11:44.090 --> 00:11:45.190
  • or a ministry issue.
  • 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:47.020
  • Whatever it might be,
  • 00:11:47.020 --> 00:11:48.020
  • I'm just here today
  • 00:11:48.020 --> 00:11:49.140
  • to say to you, "You can change."
  • 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.120
  • Your circumstance can change.
  • 00:11:53.220 --> 00:11:56.220
  • The negative things can change.
  • 00:11:56.220 --> 00:11:59.160
  • There's nothing
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:00.210
  • that is impossible.
  • 00:12:00.210 --> 00:12:03.170
  • I didn't know how it could
  • 00:12:03.170 --> 00:12:05.020
  • happen, but something went off
  • 00:12:05.020 --> 00:12:07.210
  • on the inside of me.
  • 00:12:07.210 --> 00:12:09.250
  • You know, all the counselors
  • 00:12:09.250 --> 00:12:10.260
  • I'd been to,
  • 00:12:10.260 --> 00:12:11.210
  • and all the doctors I'd been to,
  • 00:12:11.210 --> 00:12:13.220
  • and all the probation
  • 00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:15.080
  • people I'd been to,
  • 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.100
  • they said a lot of things to me
  • 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.250
  • that never seemed
  • 00:12:18.250 --> 00:12:19.260
  • to make any difference.
  • 00:12:19.260 --> 00:12:21.250
  • I'd just go right back
  • 00:12:21.250 --> 00:12:22.220
  • to the same old behaviors.
  • 00:12:22.220 --> 00:12:25.020
  • But when Julius said,
  • 00:12:25.020 --> 00:12:27.190
  • "Big Red, you can change,"
  • 00:12:27.190 --> 00:12:30.170
  • I believed him.
  • 00:12:30.170 --> 00:12:32.140
  • Something happened inside of me.
  • 00:12:32.140 --> 00:12:34.290
  • I didn't believe in God.
  • 00:12:34.290 --> 00:12:37.000
  • I didn't know the Lord.
  • 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:37.250
  • I didn't believe in myself.
  • 00:12:37.250 --> 00:12:39.190
  • I felt like I was a loser.
  • 00:12:39.190 --> 00:12:41.040
  • But I believed him.
  • 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:44.080
  • And maybe you're that Julius
  • 00:12:46.030 --> 00:12:49.030
  • in someone's life that says,
  • 00:12:49.030 --> 00:12:51.280
  • "Hey, you're valuable.
  • 00:12:51.280 --> 00:12:53.210
  • Hey, God loves you.
  • 00:12:53.210 --> 00:12:55.240
  • Hey, things can get better.
  • 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.260
  • Your life can change."
  • 00:12:58.170 --> 00:13:01.190
  • Let's not forget,
  • 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:03.070
  • someone needs someone to believe
  • 00:13:03.070 --> 00:13:05.180
  • in them before they believe
  • 00:13:05.180 --> 00:13:07.190
  • in themselves.
  • 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:09.170
  • Is that true?
  • 00:13:09.170 --> 00:13:11.150
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:13:11.150 --> 00:13:13.140
  • Well, a couple weeks later,
  • 00:13:13.140 --> 00:13:14.090
  • Julius took me to church, and
  • 00:13:15.100 --> 00:13:18.100
  • everything started, everything.
  • 00:13:19.180 --> 00:13:22.180
  • That day I gave my life
  • 00:13:22.180 --> 00:13:24.060
  • to the Lord.
  • 00:13:24.060 --> 00:13:25.030
  • I was born again.
  • 00:13:25.030 --> 00:13:25.230
  • The next week
  • 00:13:25.230 --> 00:13:26.110
  • I was baptized in water,
  • 00:13:26.110 --> 00:13:27.290
  • filled with the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:13:27.290 --> 00:13:29.070
  • I was full in.
  • 00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:30.040
  • I mean, you know,
  • 00:13:30.040 --> 00:13:31.010
  • if you're gonna be
  • 00:13:31.010 --> 00:13:31.160
  • full in for the world
  • 00:13:31.160 --> 00:13:32.240
  • and full on for the devil,
  • 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.150
  • can you do anything less
  • 00:13:34.150 --> 00:13:36.100
  • for Jesus?
  • 00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:38.160
  • And I was in.
  • 00:13:38.160 --> 00:13:40.080
  • Within a year I'd started
  • 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.080
  • Bible school
  • 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.070
  • and committed to 4 years
  • 00:13:43.070 --> 00:13:44.160
  • and a theology degree.
  • 00:13:44.160 --> 00:13:46.150
  • That's where I met Wendy.
  • 00:13:46.150 --> 00:13:48.220
  • We began to date soon after
  • 00:13:48.220 --> 00:13:50.180
  • we started school.
  • 00:13:50.180 --> 00:13:51.180
  • And could I just say, I really
  • 00:13:51.180 --> 00:13:53.010
  • went to school seeking the Lord,
  • 00:13:53.010 --> 00:13:54.220
  • and then I just couldn't
  • 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:55.150
  • escape her?
  • 00:13:55.150 --> 00:13:56.120
  • I mean, you know what
  • 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:56.280
  • I'm sayin'.
  • 00:13:56.280 --> 00:13:59.090
  • We were married
  • 00:13:59.090 --> 00:14:00.030
  • in our second year of school.
  • 00:14:00.030 --> 00:14:01.260
  • We graduated after 4 years.
  • 00:14:01.260 --> 00:14:03.280
  • We started
  • 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:04.240
  • Christian Faith Center
  • 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.000
  • that same year we graduated.
  • 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.180
  • Here's our family today.
  • 00:14:08.180 --> 00:14:09.190
  • I think we got a family photo,
  • 00:14:09.190 --> 00:14:11.100
  • three kids, one grandchild.
  • 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:13.020
  • We're still on the journey, but
  • 00:14:13.020 --> 00:14:14.240
  • we've made a little progress.
  • 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:15.290
  • Hey, I look different than
  • 00:14:15.290 --> 00:14:16.280
  • that mugshot, don't I?
  • 00:14:16.280 --> 00:14:19.270
  • Okay, maybe not.
  • 00:14:19.270 --> 00:14:22.150
  • I think I look a little better.
  • 00:14:22.150 --> 00:14:25.040
  • But soon after I was saved,
  • 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:27.230
  • I started having some
  • 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:28.260
  • of those same thoughts,
  • 00:14:28.260 --> 00:14:30.100
  • those same feelings,
  • 00:14:30.100 --> 00:14:31.110
  • those same anxieties
  • 00:14:31.110 --> 00:14:33.030
  • that I remember
  • 00:14:33.030 --> 00:14:34.000
  • in the rehab center.
  • 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.000
  • Feeling inadequate, feeling,
  • 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.040
  • "I don't know what to do."
  • 00:14:38.040 --> 00:14:39.070
  • Feeling, "I don't know
  • 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:40.040
  • where to go."
  • 00:14:40.040 --> 00:14:40.240
  • Feeling like, "I can't do this."
  • 00:14:40.260 --> 00:14:43.260
  • And I think many people come
  • 00:14:43.260 --> 00:14:45.230
  • to the Lord but get stuck there
  • 00:14:46.210 --> 00:14:49.210
  • and don't know how to grow
  • 00:14:49.210 --> 00:14:50.240
  • in the Lord.
  • 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.220
  • I found myself wondering
  • 00:14:52.220 --> 00:14:54.130
  • if I could be a Christian,
  • 00:14:54.130 --> 00:14:55.260
  • wondering if I could make it,
  • 00:14:55.260 --> 00:14:57.020
  • wondering if I could even live
  • 00:14:57.020 --> 00:14:58.190
  • this life.
  • 00:14:58.190 --> 00:14:59.160
  • In fact, for the first over
  • 00:14:59.160 --> 00:15:01.240
  • a year of my Christian life,
  • 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.120
  • I never thought I could make it.
  • 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.040
  • I never thought I would
  • 00:15:06.040 --> 00:15:07.020
  • stay free from drugs.
  • 00:15:07.020 --> 00:15:08.170
  • I fully assumed
  • 00:15:08.170 --> 00:15:09.200
  • I'd end up back in jail,
  • 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.070
  • even though I was born again.
  • 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:13.260
  • I believed in Jesus,
  • 00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:15.110
  • but I so struggled to live it.
  • 00:15:16.020 --> 00:15:19.020
  • That's when I came across
  • 00:15:19.020 --> 00:15:20.280
  • Romans chapter 12, in verse 2.
  • 00:15:21.060 --> 00:15:24.060
  • And Paul says it to the church.
  • 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:25.250
  • It's not to the world.
  • 00:15:25.250 --> 00:15:26.260
  • It's not in the Gospels.
  • 00:15:26.260 --> 00:15:27.210
  • the church at Rome: "Do not be
  • 00:15:29.220 --> 00:15:32.080
  • conformed to the world,"
  • 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:33.150
  • he said, "but transformed by
  • 00:15:33.150 --> 00:15:35.050
  • the renewing of your mind that
  • 00:15:35.050 --> 00:15:37.110
  • you may prove what is that good
  • 00:15:37.110 --> 00:15:39.210
  • and acceptable
  • 00:15:39.210 --> 00:15:40.170
  • and perfect will of God."
  • 00:15:40.170 --> 00:15:43.110
  • And so I started this journey
  • 00:15:43.110 --> 00:15:45.240
  • And you know, in many ways,
  • 00:15:47.260 --> 00:15:48.160
  • church, it hasn't changed.
  • 00:15:48.160 --> 00:15:49.290
  • I'm still a kid in rehab,
  • 00:15:49.290 --> 00:15:52.090
  • trying to renew my mind.
  • 00:15:52.090 --> 00:15:54.140
  • The first goal,
  • 00:15:54.140 --> 00:15:55.250
  • the primary objective,
  • 00:15:55.250 --> 00:15:57.270
  • the main mission
  • 00:15:57.270 --> 00:15:58.240
  • of every Christian
  • 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.280
  • is to be like Jesus.
  • 00:16:00.280 --> 00:16:03.230
  • Before you think about ministry,
  • 00:16:03.230 --> 00:16:05.140
  • before you think about all the
  • 00:16:05.140 --> 00:16:06.170
  • other aspects of your life,
  • 00:16:06.170 --> 00:16:08.200
  • your primary mission,
  • 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:10.180
  • my primary mission,
  • 00:16:10.180 --> 00:16:12.060
  • is to be like Christ.
  • 00:16:12.060 --> 00:16:15.020
  • And everything we say,
  • 00:16:15.020 --> 00:16:16.150
  • and everything we do,
  • 00:16:16.150 --> 00:16:17.290
  • we call our self, "Christians."
  • 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:21.120
  • Doesn't that mean "Christlike"?
  • 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.120
  • We don't just call our self,
  • 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.020
  • "Ministers."
  • 00:16:27.020 --> 00:16:28.030
  • We don't just call our self,
  • 00:16:28.030 --> 00:16:29.110
  • you know, whatever it is,
  • 00:16:29.110 --> 00:16:30.170
  • "Preachers," or, "Teachers,"
  • 00:16:30.170 --> 00:16:31.190
  • or whatever role,
  • 00:16:31.190 --> 00:16:32.270
  • or whatever job,
  • 00:16:32.270 --> 00:16:34.020
  • or whatever career
  • 00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:34.290
  • we may be going after.
  • 00:16:34.290 --> 00:16:36.250
  • First of all, we are Christians.
  • 00:16:37.220 --> 00:16:40.220
  • That means "to be like Christ
  • 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:43.070
  • in everything that we say
  • 00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:45.100
  • and everything that we do."
  • 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:47.070
  • That's our primary call.
  • 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:50.120
  • And maybe that's where
  • 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:51.080
  • some of us get off track.
  • 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.050
  • We're so busy trying to be
  • 00:16:53.050 --> 00:16:54.180
  • something that we forgot
  • 00:16:54.180 --> 00:16:56.040
  • to be the one thing that really
  • 00:16:56.040 --> 00:16:57.290
  • matters, like him.
  • 00:16:58.050 --> 00:17:01.070
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:17:02.260 --> 00:17:05.260
  • Well, I'm not there.
  • 00:17:05.260 --> 00:17:08.260
  • You can ask Wendy.
  • 00:17:08.260 --> 00:17:11.150
  • There are days,
  • 00:17:11.150 --> 00:17:14.030
  • probably moments in every day,
  • 00:17:14.030 --> 00:17:16.080
  • where I don't act like Jesus.
  • 00:17:16.080 --> 00:17:19.060
  • Now, don't look so innocent
  • 00:17:19.060 --> 00:17:20.130
  • out there.
  • 00:17:20.130 --> 00:17:21.040
  • Like, you're like,
  • 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:21.210
  • "Oh, I can't believe that."
  • 00:17:21.210 --> 00:17:24.100
  • None of us do.
  • 00:17:24.100 --> 00:17:26.140
  • We all have thoughts
  • 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:27.140
  • and emotions and attitudes
  • 00:17:27.140 --> 00:17:29.200
  • and responses that we know
  • 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.070
  • within our self,
  • 00:17:32.070 --> 00:17:33.060
  • "Eww, that's not so good.
  • 00:17:33.060 --> 00:17:34.080
  • That's not like Jesus."
  • 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:37.070
  • Sometimes I do
  • 00:17:37.070 --> 00:17:39.010
  • what I know is right,
  • 00:17:39.010 --> 00:17:41.020
  • but it's not because I want to.
  • 00:17:41.020 --> 00:17:43.200
  • Say, "Okay."
  • 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.190
  • 'Cause it's easy to get stuck in
  • 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:48.180
  • our emotions, and our own needs,
  • 00:17:48.180 --> 00:17:50.240
  • and our own wants,
  • 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.040
  • and our own circumstances,
  • 00:17:52.040 --> 00:17:53.220
  • and forget,
  • 00:17:53.220 --> 00:17:54.130
  • "Wait, I'm a Christian.
  • 00:17:54.130 --> 00:17:57.090
  • I'm called to be like Christ.
  • 00:17:58.040 --> 00:18:01.060
  • That's my primary mission."
  • 00:18:02.030 --> 00:18:05.030
  • And so, since I'm not there,
  • 00:18:05.030 --> 00:18:07.170
  • I'm in this process of change,
  • 00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:10.140
  • this process of renewal,
  • 00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:13.070
  • transformed by the renewing
  • 00:18:13.070 --> 00:18:15.050
  • of my mind to be like him
  • 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:18.210
  • so I can live his good,
  • 00:18:18.210 --> 00:18:19.260
  • his acceptable,
  • 00:18:19.260 --> 00:18:20.290
  • and his perfect will.
  • 00:18:20.290 --> 00:18:23.180
  • Every day you and I get up
  • 00:18:23.180 --> 00:18:25.210
  • with the thought, "I can change.
  • 00:18:25.270 --> 00:18:28.270
  • Today I can take another step.
  • 00:18:28.270 --> 00:18:31.010
  • Today I can have a new thought.
  • 00:18:31.010 --> 00:18:32.230
  • Today I can get a little deeper.
  • 00:18:32.230 --> 00:18:34.150
  • Today I can be a little more
  • 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:36.280
  • like Jesus."
  • 00:18:36.280 --> 00:18:39.080
  • C'mon, if you believe that,
  • 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:40.100
  • give the Lord a handclap
  • 00:18:40.100 --> 00:18:41.130
  • right there.
  • 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:42.090
  • - Casey: "Oh, that was a good
  • 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:47.250
  • sermon on Sunday."
  • 00:18:47.250 --> 00:18:48.200
  • What are you gonna do with it
  • 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:49.140
  • on Monday?
  • 00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:50.070
  • "Oh, it doesn't really work
  • 00:18:50.070 --> 00:18:51.070
  • in my real life."
  • 00:18:51.070 --> 00:18:52.270
  • Wait, you have a real life
  • 00:18:52.270 --> 00:18:54.000
  • that's different than
  • 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:54.240
  • your Sunday life?
  • 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.040
  • You're missing the point.
  • 00:18:56.040 --> 00:18:57.140
  • What we're we doing
  • 00:18:57.140 --> 00:18:58.050
  • as we worship and as we pray
  • 00:18:58.050 --> 00:19:00.130
  • and as we hear the Word
  • 00:19:00.130 --> 00:19:01.220
  • is the real life.
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  • Now let's connect it to Monday
  • 00:19:03.210 --> 00:19:05.090
  • and Tuesday and Wednesday
  • 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:07.030
  • - Casey: In 1 John chapter 4,
  • 00:19:17.260 --> 00:19:19.080
  • verse 14 John writes:
  • 00:19:19.080 --> 00:19:21.270
  • "We have seen and testify
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  • that the Father sent the Son
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  • as Savior of the world.
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  • And whoever confesses
  • 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:29.070
  • that Jesus is the Son of God,
  • 00:19:29.070 --> 00:19:31.050
  • abides in him, and he in God.
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  • Love's been perfected among us
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  • because as he is,
  • 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:40.210
  • so are we in this world."
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.240
  • You know, sometimes we give up
  • 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.050
  • and we just say,
  • 00:19:45.050 --> 00:19:46.050
  • "Well, when I get to heaven,
  • 00:19:46.050 --> 00:19:47.070
  • I'll be like him.
  • 00:19:47.070 --> 00:19:48.210
  • When I get to heaven,
  • 00:19:48.210 --> 00:19:49.180
  • in my glorified body,
  • 00:19:49.180 --> 00:19:51.180
  • I'll finally be
  • 00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:52.230
  • what God wants me to be."
  • 00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:54.150
  • But look at,
  • 00:19:54.150 --> 00:19:55.110
  • that Scripture said, "As he is,
  • 00:19:55.110 --> 00:19:57.220
  • so are we in this world."
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  • In this world we are Christlike.
  • 00:20:03.280 --> 00:20:06.280
  • In this world we can be
  • 00:20:06.280 --> 00:20:08.270
  • the people that God created us
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  • to be.
  • 00:20:11.100 --> 00:20:12.280
  • And that's why
  • 00:20:12.280 --> 00:20:13.270
  • we're here at conference.
  • 00:20:13.270 --> 00:20:15.020
  • And that's why we purchase
  • 00:20:15.020 --> 00:20:17.000
  • the books.
  • 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:17.250
  • And that's why
  • 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:18.200
  • we read our Bibles.
  • 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:19.280
  • And that's why we are studying
  • 00:20:19.280 --> 00:20:21.210
  • his Word.
  • 00:20:21.210 --> 00:20:22.160
  • Because we want to be
  • 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:23.290
  • transformed by the renewing
  • 00:20:23.290 --> 00:20:25.290
  • of our mind.
  • 00:20:25.290 --> 00:20:26.270
  • Not to fit into some
  • 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:28.110
  • denominational mold,
  • 00:20:28.110 --> 00:20:30.000
  • not to become like some preacher
  • 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.000
  • or other people,
  • 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.090
  • but to be like Christ.
  • 00:20:33.290 --> 00:20:36.290
  • How much desire,
  • 00:20:36.290 --> 00:20:38.100
  • how much passion,
  • 00:20:38.100 --> 00:20:39.150
  • how much commitment
  • 00:20:39.150 --> 00:20:40.250
  • do you feel on the inside
  • 00:20:40.250 --> 00:20:42.080
  • to be like him today?
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  • Don't lose it.
  • 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:45.270
  • If you've never had it, get it.
  • 00:20:45.270 --> 00:20:47.240
  • And if you've got it,
  • 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:48.240
  • don't lose it.
  • 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.260
  • You don't wanna turn into
  • 00:20:50.260 --> 00:20:51.240
  • a grumpy old Christian
  • 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.220
  • that's just given up.
  • 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:56.000
  • And now you just got an
  • 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:57.060
  • attitude, and you don't give,
  • 00:20:57.060 --> 00:20:59.000
  • and you don't serve, and you
  • 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:00.250
  • don't even try to be like him.
  • 00:21:02.010 --> 00:21:05.010
  • No, that's not who we are.
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  • We're here because, "As he is,
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  • I love Romans chapter 8,
  • 00:21:14.020 --> 00:21:15.190
  • in verse 29, Romans 8:29:
  • 00:21:16.070 --> 00:21:19.070
  • "Whom he foreknew
  • 00:21:19.070 --> 00:21:20.060
  • he also predestined,"
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  • predestined,
  • 00:21:22.100 --> 00:21:24.100
  • established a destiny,
  • 00:21:24.100 --> 00:21:27.080
  • "to be conformed
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  • to the image of his Son,
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  • that Jesus might be the
  • 00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:33.210
  • firstborn among many brethren."
  • 00:21:33.210 --> 00:21:36.130
  • Before God predestined you
  • 00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:38.000
  • for ministry,
  • 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:39.100
  • before he predestined you
  • 00:21:39.100 --> 00:21:40.230
  • for family,
  • 00:21:40.230 --> 00:21:41.230
  • before he predestined you
  • 00:21:41.230 --> 00:21:43.060
  • he knew you
  • 00:21:45.080 --> 00:21:46.170
  • and he predestined you
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  • to be like Jesus.
  • 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:51.180
  • So today
  • 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:52.240
  • let's take another step.
  • 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.040
  • Today let's get a new thought.
  • 00:21:54.040 --> 00:21:56.000
  • Today let's make a change.
  • 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.290
  • Today let's agree
  • 00:21:57.290 --> 00:21:59.120
  • to an adjustment on the inside
  • 00:21:59.120 --> 00:22:01.180
  • so we can be more like him.
  • 00:22:01.180 --> 00:22:04.140
  • That's my destiny.
  • 00:22:04.140 --> 00:22:05.190
  • That's my destiny,
  • 00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:07.030
  • to be conformed
  • 00:22:07.090 --> 00:22:10.090
  • to the image of Jesus.
  • 00:22:12.100 --> 00:22:15.100
  • When was the last time
  • 00:22:15.100 --> 00:22:16.130
  • you consciously thought,
  • 00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:18.010
  • "I'm gonna change that because
  • 00:22:18.010 --> 00:22:19.150
  • I want to be more like him"?
  • 00:22:19.220 --> 00:22:22.220
  • When was the last time you said,
  • 00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:23.270
  • "I'm not gonna do that, 'cause
  • 00:22:23.270 --> 00:22:25.180
  • I'm gonna be more like Jesus"?
  • 00:22:25.270 --> 00:22:28.270
  • Now, we never arrive.
  • 00:22:28.270 --> 00:22:30.160
  • No one's ever there, right?
  • 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.250
  • My wife, Wendy's, pretty close,
  • 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:34.020
  • but even she has
  • 00:22:34.020 --> 00:22:35.010
  • one or two things
  • 00:22:35.010 --> 00:22:36.070
  • still she needs to change.
  • 00:22:36.070 --> 00:22:38.240
  • I have a lot of things, right?
  • 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.240
  • No one's there.
  • 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.010
  • But we're all on that journey.
  • 00:22:47.010 --> 00:22:49.050
  • We're all on that road.
  • 00:22:49.050 --> 00:22:50.120
  • We're all on our way.
  • 00:22:50.120 --> 00:22:51.240
  • We are children of the way.
  • 00:22:51.250 --> 00:22:54.250
  • Which way are you going?
  • 00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:57.090
  • To be more like him.
  • 00:22:57.090 --> 00:23:00.020
  • Let's stay conscious of it.
  • 00:23:00.020 --> 00:23:02.030
  • Let's stay engaged with it.
  • 00:23:02.030 --> 00:23:04.020
  • And let's make it part of who we
  • 00:23:04.020 --> 00:23:05.200
  • are and how we live every day.
  • 00:23:08.120 --> 00:23:11.120
  • We are the epistles the world
  • 00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:14.130
  • Remember, Paul wrote in
  • 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:19.130
  • 2 Corinthians chapter 3:
  • 00:23:19.130 --> 00:23:21.160
  • "You are our epistles
  • 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.150
  • written in our hearts,
  • 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:25.000
  • known and read by all men;
  • 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.080
  • clearly you are an epistle
  • 00:23:27.080 --> 00:23:29.000
  • of Christ."
  • 00:23:29.170 --> 00:23:32.170
  • know Jesus 'cause those of us
  • 00:23:34.190 --> 00:23:36.130
  • who are Christians aren't very
  • 00:23:36.130 --> 00:23:38.250
  • good letters for them to read.
  • 00:23:38.250 --> 00:23:41.250
  • I don't think they listen
  • 00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:43.130
  • to our sermons.
  • 00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:44.160
  • I think they listen
  • 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.140
  • to our lives.
  • 00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:47.270
  • Let's make sure we give
  • 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:50.010
  • an accurate representation.
  • 00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:52.250
  • Not out of pressure,
  • 00:23:52.250 --> 00:23:54.050
  • not out of stress,
  • 00:23:54.050 --> 00:23:55.150
  • not out of condemnation,
  • 00:23:55.150 --> 00:23:57.050
  • but out of the joy of walking
  • 00:23:57.050 --> 00:23:59.050
  • with God, and knowing the Lord,
  • 00:23:59.050 --> 00:24:01.100
  • and being on our way
  • 00:24:01.100 --> 00:24:02.210
  • to eternal life with him.
  • 00:24:02.210 --> 00:24:04.140
  • Out of the grace of God
  • 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:06.140
  • we change
  • 00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:07.110
  • to become more like him.
  • 00:24:07.110 --> 00:24:10.100
  • Christians who don't grow,
  • 00:24:10.100 --> 00:24:12.150
  • who don't change
  • 00:24:12.150 --> 00:24:14.140
  • and become more like Christ,
  • 00:24:14.140 --> 00:24:16.140
  • become frustrated, unhappy.
  • 00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:21.250
  • If you're not moving
  • 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:23.190
  • in destiny,
  • 00:24:23.190 --> 00:24:24.210
  • and you are predestined
  • 00:24:24.210 --> 00:24:25.290
  • to be conformed
  • 00:24:25.290 --> 00:24:26.280
  • to the image of Christ,
  • 00:24:26.280 --> 00:24:29.000
  • "As he is, so are you
  • 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.140
  • in this world."
  • 00:24:30.140 --> 00:24:31.170
  • So if you're not
  • 00:24:31.170 --> 00:24:32.140
  • in that process,
  • 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:33.100
  • if you're not taking steps,
  • 00:24:33.100 --> 00:24:34.120
  • Christian life starts
  • 00:24:34.120 --> 00:24:35.290
  • feeling heavy.
  • 00:24:35.290 --> 00:24:38.090
  • And you get down,
  • 00:24:38.090 --> 00:24:39.100
  • and you get discouraged.
  • 00:24:39.100 --> 00:24:40.190
  • If you're not growing,
  • 00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:41.270
  • if you're not learning,
  • 00:24:41.270 --> 00:24:43.000
  • you're like a little child
  • 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:44.080
  • who's stuck at home
  • 00:24:44.080 --> 00:24:45.200
  • with nothing to do.
  • 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.030
  • They wanna go to school.
  • 00:24:47.030 --> 00:24:48.100
  • They wanna read.
  • 00:24:48.100 --> 00:24:49.270
  • They wanna experience
  • 00:24:49.270 --> 00:24:51.020
  • new things.
  • 00:24:51.020 --> 00:24:51.290
  • They wanna see what's out there.
  • 00:24:51.290 --> 00:24:54.100
  • And if you don't let 'em go,
  • 00:24:54.100 --> 00:24:56.040
  • they just get frustrated
  • 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:57.240
  • and start doing bad things,
  • 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.140
  • and wrong things.
  • 00:24:59.140 --> 00:25:01.170
  • Many Christians have their mind
  • 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.000
  • on birth control pills.
  • 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.290
  • They haven't given birth
  • 00:25:08.290 --> 00:25:10.080
  • to a new thought in years,
  • 00:25:11.080 --> 00:25:14.080
  • stuck in their routines.
  • 00:25:15.260 --> 00:25:18.260
  • Not learning,
  • 00:25:18.260 --> 00:25:20.170
  • not growing, not seeking.
  • 00:25:20.170 --> 00:25:22.090
  • And then they think,
  • 00:25:22.090 --> 00:25:23.220
  • "Well, it's the church.
  • 00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:24.220
  • I'm frustrated, and I'm sad,
  • 00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:27.010
  • and I don't feel fulfilled.
  • 00:25:27.010 --> 00:25:28.120
  • I need a new church."
  • 00:25:28.120 --> 00:25:29.250
  • Well, you keep going
  • 00:25:29.250 --> 00:25:30.170
  • to new places.
  • 00:25:30.170 --> 00:25:31.200
  • And everywhere you go,
  • 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.110
  • there you are.
  • 00:25:33.110 --> 00:25:34.220
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:25:34.290 --> 00:25:37.290
  • That's the problem.
  • 00:25:37.290 --> 00:25:39.160
  • We think it's out there.
  • 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:40.270
  • We think it's the pastor.
  • 00:25:40.270 --> 00:25:42.020
  • We think it's the church.
  • 00:25:42.020 --> 00:25:42.280
  • We think it's something
  • 00:25:42.280 --> 00:25:43.270
  • around us.
  • 00:25:43.270 --> 00:25:44.260
  • But it's what's in us.
  • 00:25:44.260 --> 00:25:47.150
  • When you're in the process
  • 00:25:47.150 --> 00:25:49.100
  • of renewal,
  • 00:25:49.100 --> 00:25:50.090
  • there's an excitement.
  • 00:25:50.090 --> 00:25:51.120
  • There's a passion.
  • 00:25:51.120 --> 00:25:52.060
  • There's an energy.
  • 00:25:52.060 --> 00:25:53.070
  • There's a newness
  • 00:25:53.070 --> 00:25:54.110
  • to life every day.
  • 00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:57.140
  • "The mercies of God,"
  • 00:25:57.140 --> 00:25:59.020
  • the ministries of God,
  • 00:25:59.020 --> 00:26:01.090
  • "are new every morning."
  • 00:26:01.190 --> 00:26:04.190
  • So renewal is exciting,
  • 00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:07.160
  • and energizing,
  • 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.230
  • and keeps you fresh,
  • 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:11.140
  • and keeps you going with God.
  • 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.240
  • Never let your Sunday disconnect
  • 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.280
  • from your Monday.
  • 00:26:16.280 --> 00:26:19.280
  • "Oh, that was a good sermon
  • 00:26:19.280 --> 00:26:21.070
  • on Sunday."
  • 00:26:21.070 --> 00:26:22.040
  • What are you gonna do with it
  • 00:26:22.040 --> 00:26:22.250
  • on Monday?
  • 00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:23.200
  • "Oh, it doesn't really work
  • 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:24.220
  • in my real life."
  • 00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:26.220
  • Wait, you have a real life
  • 00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:28.060
  • that's different
  • 00:26:28.060 --> 00:26:28.240
  • than your Sunday life?
  • 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.270
  • You're missing the point.
  • 00:26:30.270 --> 00:26:33.090
  • What we're we doing
  • 00:26:33.090 --> 00:26:34.100
  • as we worship and as we pray
  • 00:26:34.100 --> 00:26:36.180
  • and as we hear the Word
  • 00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:37.260
  • is the real life.
  • 00:26:37.260 --> 00:26:39.230
  • Now let's connect it to Monday
  • 00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:41.120
  • and Tuesday and Wednesday
  • 00:26:41.120 --> 00:26:43.030
  • and make it work every day.
  • 00:26:43.030 --> 00:26:45.290
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:26:45.290 --> 00:26:47.290
  • And in that process of change
  • 00:26:47.290 --> 00:26:49.210
  • and renewal,
  • 00:26:49.210 --> 00:26:50.220
  • we find this excitement
  • 00:26:50.220 --> 00:26:52.030
  • about living with God.
  • 00:26:52.030 --> 00:26:53.200
  • Maybe you've lost the passion
  • 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.120
  • and lost some energy
  • 00:26:55.120 --> 00:26:56.250
  • 'cause you just haven't
  • 00:26:56.250 --> 00:26:57.220
  • made any changes lately.
  • 00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:00.090
  • You haven't experienced
  • 00:27:00.090 --> 00:27:02.210
  • - Casey: Why is it so hard
  • 00:27:08.040 --> 00:27:09.040
  • for some of us to live like him?
  • 00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:11.110
  • 'Cause we're not thinking right.
  • 00:27:11.110 --> 00:27:13.270
  • Plug into the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:27:13.270 --> 00:27:16.100
  • Plug into the Word of God.
  • 00:27:16.100 --> 00:27:18.210
  • Get serious about having
  • 00:27:18.210 --> 00:27:20.270
  • the mind of Christ.
  • 00:27:20.270 --> 00:27:23.050
  • 'Cause when you think
  • 00:27:23.050 --> 00:27:24.030
  • his thoughts,
  • 00:27:24.030 --> 00:27:25.040
  • you'll take his steps,
  • 00:27:25.040 --> 00:27:26.180
  • and you'll be that person
  • 00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:27.250
  • - Casey: Remember some time ago
  • 00:27:38.280 --> 00:27:41.050
  • it was popular to say, "WWJD"?
  • 00:27:41.230 --> 00:27:44.230
  • We wore the wristband, you know,
  • 00:27:44.230 --> 00:27:46.150
  • we had the bumper sticker,
  • 00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:47.160
  • "WWJD," "What would Jesus do?"
  • 00:27:49.090 --> 00:27:52.090
  • That's cool.
  • 00:27:52.090 --> 00:27:53.040
  • I like that idea,
  • 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:54.050
  • "What would Jesus do?"
  • 00:27:54.050 --> 00:27:55.090
  • I wanna do what Jesus would do.
  • 00:27:55.090 --> 00:27:57.110
  • But let's back up a step
  • 00:27:57.110 --> 00:27:58.250
  • and let me ask ya this question.
  • 00:27:58.250 --> 00:28:00.240
  • What would Jesus think?
  • 00:28:01.050 --> 00:28:04.050
  • Because if you know what Jesus
  • 00:28:04.050 --> 00:28:06.160
  • would think,
  • 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.070
  • it's easy what Jesus would do.
  • 00:28:12.060 --> 00:28:15.060
  • And maybe we've never gone
  • 00:28:15.060 --> 00:28:17.010
  • deep enough in our walk
  • 00:28:17.010 --> 00:28:18.220
  • with God.
  • 00:28:18.220 --> 00:28:19.170
  • We're tryin' to do what he does,
  • 00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:20.280
  • but we don't know
  • 00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:21.240
  • why he does it.
  • 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:22.240
  • We don't know
  • 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:23.210
  • where it came from.
  • 00:28:23.210 --> 00:28:24.170
  • We don't know
  • 00:28:24.170 --> 00:28:25.040
  • what's the motivation.
  • 00:28:25.040 --> 00:28:26.080
  • We don't know what's the spirit,
  • 00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:27.240
  • what's the heart.
  • 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.220
  • So let's plug into,
  • 00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:30.060
  • what would he think?
  • 00:28:30.060 --> 00:28:32.140
  • Do you know, you have a Bible
  • 00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:33.170
  • just so you can have
  • 00:28:33.170 --> 00:28:34.190
  • the thoughts of God?
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  • His thoughts are higher
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  • than our thoughts.
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  • So when we get his thoughts,
  • 00:28:40.030 --> 00:28:41.110
  • we get his ways.
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  • You get the thoughts of Jesus,
  • 00:28:43.210 --> 00:28:45.200
  • you get the ways of Jesus,
  • 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.110
  • Christian life gets fun.
  • 00:28:47.110 --> 00:28:49.230
  • "I just don't know what to do."
  • 00:28:49.230 --> 00:28:50.260
  • Because you don't know
  • 00:28:50.260 --> 00:28:51.210
  • how to think.
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  • Hmm, thank you for your
  • 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:55.100
  • exciting response, right?
  • 00:28:57.010 --> 00:29:00.030
  • "Well, I don't know
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  • what I should do."
  • 00:29:00.190 --> 00:29:01.130
  • Do you know how to think?
  • 00:29:01.130 --> 00:29:03.120
  • Right, we're teaching
  • 00:29:03.120 --> 00:29:04.070
  • our children.
  • 00:29:04.070 --> 00:29:05.070
  • We're going to Bible school.
  • 00:29:05.070 --> 00:29:06.160
  • We're listening in church so we
  • 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.050
  • can get the thoughts of God.
  • 00:29:08.050 --> 00:29:10.130
  • Then we can have the ways
  • 00:29:10.130 --> 00:29:11.240
  • of God.
  • 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.020
  • "I know what to do 'cause
  • 00:29:13.020 --> 00:29:14.050
  • I know how to think about
  • 00:29:14.050 --> 00:29:15.210
  • this circumstance,
  • 00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:16.200
  • about this problem,
  • 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:17.200
  • or about this situation."
  • 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.160
  • Our world is confused.
  • 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.240
  • And so I read my Bible
  • 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.160
  • and I ask myself,
  • 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.220
  • "What would Jesus think?"
  • 00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:29.020
  • And when I get his thoughts,
  • 00:29:29.020 --> 00:29:30.120
  • I'll get his ways.
  • 00:29:30.120 --> 00:29:31.160
  • I'll know what to do.
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  • And life gets clear.
  • 00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:34.220
  • And his will gets clear.
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  • And his plan gets clear.
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  • And his destiny gets clear.
  • 00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:39.050
  • And my heart gets clear.
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  • And I'm havin' some fun now.
  • 00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:44.020
  • That's what God's called you to.
  • 00:29:47.290 --> 00:29:50.290
  • You know, the Holy Spirit
  • 00:29:50.290 --> 00:29:52.290
  • didn't come to change you.
  • 00:29:52.290 --> 00:29:55.090
  • I know we want him to.
  • 00:29:55.090 --> 00:29:56.250
  • We want the Holy Spirit
  • 00:29:56.250 --> 00:29:58.000
  • to fix us,
  • 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.170
  • or at least fix our kids, right?
  • 00:30:01.280 --> 00:30:04.280
  • We want the miracles.
  • 00:30:04.280 --> 00:30:06.000
  • We want the Holy Spirit to come
  • 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.040
  • and zap, boom!
  • 00:30:08.040 --> 00:30:10.150
  • And we're like,
  • 00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:11.050
  • "Thank you, Lord."
  • 00:30:11.050 --> 00:30:13.200
  • But you know, the Bible says,
  • 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.020
  • "The Holy Spirit will lead
  • 00:30:15.020 --> 00:30:16.110
  • and guide you into all truth."
  • 00:30:16.110 --> 00:30:18.230
  • In other words,
  • 00:30:18.230 --> 00:30:19.090
  • he's not gonna fix it.
  • 00:30:19.090 --> 00:30:20.220
  • He's not gonna change it.
  • 00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:21.280
  • He's gonna help you to think
  • 00:30:21.280 --> 00:30:24.210
  • the truth, and then that truth
  • 00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:27.070
  • will make you free.
  • 00:30:27.070 --> 00:30:28.140
  • And remember,
  • 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:29.260
  • the Holy Spirit said
  • 00:30:29.260 --> 00:30:30.190
  • he will help you.
  • 00:30:30.190 --> 00:30:31.230
  • Romans chapter 8:
  • 00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:32.170
  • "The Holy Spirit will help you."
  • 00:30:32.170 --> 00:30:35.030
  • That's not, "Do it for you."
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  • My little Willow,
  • 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:39.200
  • she's 3 years old,
  • 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:40.220
  • my granddaughter Willow.
  • 00:30:40.220 --> 00:30:41.210
  • And we were supposed to be
  • 00:30:41.210 --> 00:30:43.020
  • picking up the room.
  • 00:30:43.020 --> 00:30:44.010
  • We had toys everywhere,
  • 00:30:44.010 --> 00:30:44.280
  • spread everything everywhere,
  • 00:30:44.280 --> 00:30:46.100
  • and so I said,
  • 00:30:46.100 --> 00:30:47.150
  • "Willow, I'll help you."
  • 00:30:47.150 --> 00:30:48.270
  • And she said,
  • 00:30:48.270 --> 00:30:50.010
  • "Papa, will you just do it?"
  • 00:30:50.010 --> 00:30:52.000
  • [audience laughing]
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  • She's honest, right?
  • 00:30:54.130 --> 00:30:56.100
  • I said, "No, but I'll help you."
  • 00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:59.190
  • 'Cause if I do it for her,
  • 00:30:59.190 --> 00:31:01.140
  • ah, she never grows.
  • 00:31:01.140 --> 00:31:02.240
  • She never develops.
  • 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.160
  • She never has discipline,
  • 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.170
  • never has obedience.
  • 00:31:04.170 --> 00:31:05.270
  • Then she grows up to be crazy
  • 00:31:05.270 --> 00:31:07.080
  • like some of you.
  • 00:31:07.080 --> 00:31:08.200
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.190
  • Oh, yeah, I was just checkin'
  • 00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:11.120
  • to see if you were listening.
  • 00:31:11.120 --> 00:31:14.060
  • No, I'm not gonna do it for her,
  • 00:31:14.060 --> 00:31:15.260
  • right?
  • 00:31:15.260 --> 00:31:16.230
  • When our kids have homework,
  • 00:31:16.230 --> 00:31:18.090
  • we don't sit down
  • 00:31:18.090 --> 00:31:19.050
  • and do their homework for them.
  • 00:31:19.050 --> 00:31:21.190
  • Okay, well, sometimes I did
  • 00:31:21.190 --> 00:31:22.230
  • when Tasha, my daughter,
  • 00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:25.010
  • was in college.
  • 00:31:25.010 --> 00:31:26.050
  • She would go these
  • 00:31:26.050 --> 00:31:26.220
  • theology classes.
  • 00:31:26.220 --> 00:31:27.280
  • I would get so fired up
  • 00:31:27.280 --> 00:31:29.010
  • about it.
  • 00:31:29.010 --> 00:31:29.160
  • I would say,
  • 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:30.010
  • "Hey, give me that laptop.
  • 00:31:30.010 --> 00:31:31.070
  • I'll type the paper for you."
  • 00:31:31.070 --> 00:31:32.220
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:31:32.220 --> 00:31:34.250
  • And then Wendy would go,
  • 00:31:34.250 --> 00:31:36.010
  • "What are you doing?"
  • 00:31:36.010 --> 00:31:36.270
  • "Quiet, I'm doing some
  • 00:31:36.270 --> 00:31:38.130
  • homework."
  • 00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:40.030
  • Wendy said, "I don't think
  • 00:31:40.030 --> 00:31:41.130
  • you're helping your daughter."
  • 00:31:41.130 --> 00:31:42.190
  • "Shh."
  • 00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:44.270
  • No, it's not good to do it
  • 00:31:44.270 --> 00:31:46.090
  • for you.
  • 00:31:46.090 --> 00:31:47.110
  • But that's what we want
  • 00:31:47.110 --> 00:31:48.060
  • the Holy Spirit to do.
  • 00:31:48.060 --> 00:31:49.030
  • "Just fix me, Lord.
  • 00:31:49.030 --> 00:31:51.050
  • Change me.
  • 00:31:51.050 --> 00:31:52.090
  • Heal me."
  • 00:31:52.090 --> 00:31:54.020
  • But he said,
  • 00:31:54.020 --> 00:31:54.190
  • In fact,
  • 00:31:56.210 --> 00:31:57.130
  • in 1 Corinthians chapter 2,
  • 00:31:57.130 --> 00:31:59.100
  • the Bible says,
  • 00:31:59.100 --> 00:32:00.100
  • "You have received,
  • 00:32:00.100 --> 00:32:02.050
  • not the spirit of the world,
  • 00:32:02.050 --> 00:32:03.250
  • but the Spirit who's from God,
  • 00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:05.110
  • that we might know."
  • 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:08.210
  • "That we might know
  • 00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:09.190
  • the things that have been
  • 00:32:09.190 --> 00:32:10.270
  • freely given to us by God."
  • 00:32:10.270 --> 00:32:12.150
  • He didn't say that we would
  • 00:32:12.150 --> 00:32:13.120
  • get 'em, but he said,
  • 00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:15.030
  • And when you start knowing
  • 00:32:17.130 --> 00:32:18.190
  • the right things, you start
  • 00:32:18.190 --> 00:32:19.260
  • goin' in the right direction.
  • 00:32:19.260 --> 00:32:21.060
  • When you think
  • 00:32:21.060 --> 00:32:21.240
  • the right thoughts,
  • 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:22.210
  • you do the right steps.
  • 00:32:22.210 --> 00:32:24.100
  • When you're thinking right,
  • 00:32:24.100 --> 00:32:25.190
  • you're doing right.
  • 00:32:25.190 --> 00:32:26.240
  • When you know the truth,
  • 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.090
  • the truth will make ya free.
  • 00:32:28.090 --> 00:32:29.270
  • But if you don't know it, the
  • 00:32:29.270 --> 00:32:31.110
  • So we have the Holy Spirit
  • 00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:36.030
  • so we'll know.
  • 00:32:36.030 --> 00:32:37.070
  • Now, if you keep on reading,
  • 00:32:37.070 --> 00:32:38.140
  • "The natural man does not
  • 00:32:38.140 --> 00:32:39.230
  • receive the things
  • 00:32:39.230 --> 00:32:40.240
  • of the Spirit of God,
  • 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:41.270
  • they're foolishness to him;
  • 00:32:41.270 --> 00:32:42.270
  • nor can he know them,
  • 00:32:42.270 --> 00:32:44.010
  • 'cause they're spiritually
  • 00:32:44.010 --> 00:32:45.030
  • discerned.
  • 00:32:45.030 --> 00:32:46.030
  • But we have the mind of Christ."
  • 00:32:47.110 --> 00:32:50.110
  • Everybody say it,
  • 00:32:50.110 --> 00:32:51.210
  • Why do you have
  • 00:32:56.050 --> 00:32:56.270
  • the mind of Christ?
  • 00:32:56.270 --> 00:32:58.180
  • So you can think like him,
  • 00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:01.000
  • and then live like him.
  • 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.150
  • Why is it so hard for some us
  • 00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:05.060
  • to live like him?
  • 00:33:05.060 --> 00:33:06.250
  • 'Cause we're not thinking right.
  • 00:33:06.250 --> 00:33:09.130
  • Plug into the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:33:09.130 --> 00:33:11.240
  • Plug into the Word of God.
  • 00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.050
  • Get serious about having
  • 00:33:14.050 --> 00:33:16.120
  • the mind of Christ.
  • 00:33:16.120 --> 00:33:18.260
  • 'Cause when you think his
  • 00:33:18.260 --> 00:33:19.250
  • thoughts, you'll take his steps,
  • 00:33:19.250 --> 00:33:22.020
  • and you'll be that person
  • 00:33:22.020 --> 00:33:23.100
  • In Colossians chapter 3,
  • 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.190
  • and verse 1 it said:
  • 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:30.080
  • "If you were raised
  • 00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:31.060
  • with Christ,"
  • 00:33:31.060 --> 00:33:32.000
  • if you're born again,
  • 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.220
  • if you're a Christian,
  • 00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:35.010
  • "seek those things
  • 00:33:35.010 --> 00:33:36.060
  • which are above,
  • 00:33:36.060 --> 00:33:37.060
  • where Christ is,
  • 00:33:37.060 --> 00:33:38.040
  • sitting at the right hand
  • 00:33:38.040 --> 00:33:39.040
  • of God.
  • 00:33:39.040 --> 00:33:39.280
  • Set your mind on things above,"
  • 00:33:42.110 --> 00:33:45.110
  • not on 4 hours of television
  • 00:33:45.110 --> 00:33:47.170
  • "Set your mind on things above,"
  • 00:33:50.100 --> 00:33:52.150
  • not on some of the websites
  • 00:33:52.150 --> 00:33:54.100
  • that keep poppin' up
  • 00:33:54.100 --> 00:33:55.120
  • on your computer.
  • 00:33:55.120 --> 00:33:57.260
  • "Set your mind on things above,"
  • 00:33:57.260 --> 00:33:59.270
  • not on your fear,
  • 00:33:59.270 --> 00:34:01.120
  • not on your worry,
  • 00:34:01.120 --> 00:34:03.070
  • not on your anxiety,
  • 00:34:03.070 --> 00:34:04.250
  • not on your negative identity.
  • 00:34:04.250 --> 00:34:06.290
  • "Set your mind."
  • 00:34:06.290 --> 00:34:08.130
  • You know what?
  • 00:34:08.130 --> 00:34:09.000
  • That's so encouraging to me
  • 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.080
  • because when I first started
  • 00:34:10.080 --> 00:34:11.120
  • this journey,
  • 00:34:11.120 --> 00:34:12.070
  • and Julius said to me,
  • 00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:13.090
  • "You can change,"
  • 00:34:13.090 --> 00:34:14.170
  • I believed him,
  • 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:15.240
  • but I doubted me.
  • 00:34:15.240 --> 00:34:17.240
  • And I thought my mind
  • 00:34:17.240 --> 00:34:19.020
  • was so gone.
  • 00:34:19.020 --> 00:34:20.060
  • I thought maybe
  • 00:34:20.060 --> 00:34:21.000
  • it was the drugs.
  • 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:21.260
  • And I've learned 40 years later,
  • 00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:23.280
  • "Nope, it's just me."
  • 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.020
  • I have to practice.
  • 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:28.030
  • I have to focus to set my mind.
  • 00:34:28.040 --> 00:34:31.040
  • But the fact that God said
  • 00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:32.160
  • I can do it means I can do it.
  • 00:34:33.100 --> 00:34:36.100
  • I have the ability
  • 00:34:36.100 --> 00:34:37.290
  • to set my mind
  • 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:39.100
  • and not think on the fears,
  • 00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:40.260
  • not think on the worries,
  • 00:34:40.260 --> 00:34:42.280
  • not think on the abuse,
  • 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.190
  • not think on the anger,
  • 00:34:44.190 --> 00:34:46.080
  • not think on the sin.
  • 00:34:46.080 --> 00:34:48.040
  • But I can set my mind
  • 00:34:48.040 --> 00:34:49.170
  • on things above and
  • 00:34:49.170 --> 00:34:51.050
  • start becoming more like him.
  • 00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:55.050
  • C'mon, give him a handclap
  • 00:34:55.050 --> 00:34:56.090
  • today, yeah.
  • 00:34:56.090 --> 00:34:58.270
  • - Joe Peña: When I think
  • 00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:04.210
  • of Las Vegas,
  • 00:35:04.210 --> 00:35:05.130
  • I think of every broken person,
  • 00:35:05.130 --> 00:35:07.260
  • every relationship
  • 00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:09.150
  • that's strugglin'.
  • 00:35:09.150 --> 00:35:10.150
  • I think of every addiction, and
  • 00:35:10.150 --> 00:35:12.010
  • just the brokenness of our city.
  • 00:35:12.010 --> 00:35:14.030
  • And so just, it's seeing people
  • 00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:15.190
  • come to Jesus every single week
  • 00:35:15.190 --> 00:35:18.040
  • has really been the fire for us,
  • 00:35:18.040 --> 00:35:20.110
  • and it's been the thing
  • 00:35:20.110 --> 00:35:21.150
  • - Casey: You can set your mind.
  • 00:35:32.030 --> 00:35:35.030
  • You start pickin' out things
  • 00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:36.190
  • like faith, and ministry life,
  • 00:35:37.050 --> 00:35:40.050
  • and abundant life, and setting
  • 00:35:40.050 --> 00:35:42.150
  • your mind on that, holiness,
  • 00:35:42.150 --> 00:35:44.270
  • righteousness, God's plan,
  • 00:35:44.270 --> 00:35:47.240
  • God's purpose,
  • 00:35:47.240 --> 00:35:48.210
  • setting your mind, whoo,
  • 00:35:48.210 --> 00:35:51.070
  • you're on your way
  • 00:35:51.070 --> 00:35:51.280
  • to some new stuff.
  • 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.210
  • You're on your way
  • 00:35:52.210 --> 00:35:53.110
  • to some exciting things.
  • 00:35:53.110 --> 00:35:55.080
  • Sunday is only to make Monday
  • 00:35:55.080 --> 00:35:57.130
  • a brand-new day.
  • 00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:58.200
  • Conference is only to make this
  • 00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:00.140
  • year and the following years
  • 00:36:00.140 --> 00:36:02.050
  • a brand-new world.
  • 00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:03.180
  • We're tryin' to give you
  • 00:36:03.180 --> 00:36:04.130
  • a thought that will launch you
  • 00:36:04.130 --> 00:36:06.170
  • to a new place with God.
  • 00:36:06.170 --> 00:36:09.080
  • We're tryin' to put an idea,
  • 00:36:09.080 --> 00:36:10.130
  • a vision, into your mind,
  • 00:36:10.130 --> 00:36:12.110
  • a thought into your brain that
  • 00:36:12.110 --> 00:36:15.050
  • will move you to a new place
  • 00:36:15.050 --> 00:36:17.020
  • in your life.
  • 00:36:17.020 --> 00:36:17.200
  • We can't make it happen.
  • 00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:19.250
  • Holy Spirit can't make
  • 00:36:19.250 --> 00:36:21.000
  • it happen.
  • 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.090
  • But if you'll set your mind on
  • 00:36:22.090 --> 00:36:23.240
  • the things you're hearing from
  • 00:36:23.240 --> 00:36:25.110
  • these guys on this stage,
  • 00:36:25.110 --> 00:36:26.220
  • and then take it off
  • 00:36:26.220 --> 00:36:27.270
  • in these next weeks and months,
  • 00:36:27.270 --> 00:36:29.180
  • you're gonna some amazing change
  • 00:36:29.180 --> 00:36:31.240
  • and renewal in your life.
  • 00:36:31.290 --> 00:36:34.290
  • Yeah, it's true.
  • 00:36:34.290 --> 00:36:36.200
  • It's true.
  • 00:36:36.200 --> 00:36:38.130
  • Every day we face a choice
  • 00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:41.010
  • to be conformed to the world
  • 00:36:41.010 --> 00:36:42.210
  • or transformed by the renewing
  • 00:36:42.210 --> 00:36:45.030
  • of our mind.
  • 00:36:45.030 --> 00:36:47.010
  • What's it gonna be?
  • 00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:48.020
  • Today in your marriage, today
  • 00:36:48.020 --> 00:36:50.130
  • with your ministry friends,
  • 00:36:50.130 --> 00:36:52.090
  • today at lunch,
  • 00:36:52.090 --> 00:36:54.010
  • tonight wherever you might be,
  • 00:36:54.010 --> 00:36:56.110
  • tomorrow wherever you go,
  • 00:36:56.110 --> 00:36:58.240
  • is it conformed to the world,
  • 00:36:59.060 --> 00:37:02.080
  • and the way everything goes,
  • 00:37:02.080 --> 00:37:04.250
  • and the way you've always been?
  • 00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:06.130
  • Or is it transformed
  • 00:37:06.130 --> 00:37:09.010
  • by the renewing of your mind?
  • 00:37:10.290 --> 00:37:13.290
  • It's possible.
  • 00:37:13.290 --> 00:37:15.150
  • God said it.
  • 00:37:15.150 --> 00:37:17.130
  • If you can't do it,
  • 00:37:17.130 --> 00:37:18.150
  • he wouldn't have said it.
  • 00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:20.060
  • If it's impossible,
  • 00:37:20.060 --> 00:37:21.050
  • he wouldn't have told you.
  • 00:37:21.050 --> 00:37:23.030
  • So you can set your mind
  • 00:37:23.130 --> 00:37:26.130
  • on things above.
  • 00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:28.090
  • You can be transformed,
  • 00:37:28.090 --> 00:37:30.280
  • not conformed.
  • 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.260
  • Every now and then,
  • 00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:35.030
  • I look around at our church,
  • 00:37:35.030 --> 00:37:37.110
  • or at my children,
  • 00:37:37.110 --> 00:37:39.060
  • who are now all adults,
  • 00:37:39.060 --> 00:37:40.260
  • at Wendy and I still together
  • 00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.170
  • after 40 years,
  • 00:37:43.170 --> 00:37:45.040
  • 38 years married,
  • 00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:46.280
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.200
  • and I remember
  • 00:37:49.200 --> 00:37:51.180
  • the little kid just out of jail
  • 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:55.240
  • sitting in a rehab center.
  • 00:37:55.240 --> 00:37:57.270
  • And Julius said to me,
  • 00:37:57.270 --> 00:37:59.280
  • "Big Red, you can change."
  • 00:38:01.120 --> 00:38:04.120
  • And now I can say,
  • 00:38:04.120 --> 00:38:07.100
  • "Julius, you were right.
  • 00:38:08.100 --> 00:38:11.100
  • You were right."
  • 00:38:11.100 --> 00:38:13.020
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:38:13.020 --> 00:38:16.010
  • And you can change.
  • 00:38:16.010 --> 00:38:17.260
  • Whatever the debt,
  • 00:38:17.260 --> 00:38:18.180
  • whatever the hurt,
  • 00:38:18.180 --> 00:38:19.120
  • whatever the abuse,
  • 00:38:19.120 --> 00:38:20.290
  • whatever the failure,
  • 00:38:20.290 --> 00:38:22.190
  • whatever the fear,
  • 00:38:22.190 --> 00:38:24.050
  • whatever the worry,
  • 00:38:24.050 --> 00:38:25.140
  • whatever the challenge might be,
  • 00:38:25.230 --> 00:38:28.230
  • you can be transformed
  • 00:38:28.230 --> 00:38:31.220
  • by the renewing of your mind
  • 00:38:31.220 --> 00:38:34.120
  • and move into the good
  • 00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:36.110
  • and the acceptable
  • 00:38:36.110 --> 00:38:38.230
  • and the perfect will of God.
  • 00:38:39.010 --> 00:38:42.010
  • Father, I pray for our friends
  • 00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:44.030
  • today.
  • 00:38:44.030 --> 00:38:45.210
  • Let that new thought,
  • 00:38:45.210 --> 00:38:47.180
  • let that new creation reality,
  • 00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:50.200
  • let that Word of truth,
  • 00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:54.030
  • let the mind of Christ,
  • 00:38:54.030 --> 00:38:56.260
  • penetrate every other thought.
  • 00:38:58.090 --> 00:39:01.110
  • May we not leave here like we
  • 00:39:01.110 --> 00:39:03.060
  • came, in Jesus' name.
  • 00:39:04.090 --> 00:39:07.090
  • But may we enter in to the good,
  • 00:39:07.140 --> 00:39:10.140
  • the acceptable,
  • 00:39:10.140 --> 00:39:12.150
  • and the perfect will of God.
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  • Love you, church.
  • 00:39:15.100 --> 00:39:16.110
  • Have a good day.
  • 00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:17.110
  • - Brian: Well, every year we
  • 00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:23.080
  • are privileged to have delegates
  • 00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:24.230
  • from all around the world
  • 00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:26.050
  • attend Hillsong Conference.
  • 00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:27.240
  • I never take it for granted that
  • 00:39:27.240 --> 00:39:29.200
  • we have people from so many
  • 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:30.230
  • different denominations and
  • 00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:31.290
  • backgrounds attend conference,
  • 00:39:31.290 --> 00:39:33.170
  • and we know everyone
  • 00:39:33.170 --> 00:39:35.160
  • has their own story to tell.
  • 00:39:35.160 --> 00:39:37.130
  • Niyah is one of our team
  • 00:39:37.130 --> 00:39:38.280
  • from Hillsong Los Angeles.
  • 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.190
  • She was able to capture
  • 00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:41.270
  • just a few of the stories
  • 00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:43.160
  • - Niyah Rahmaan: We are here at
  • 00:39:47.050 --> 00:39:47.240
  • Hillsong Conference backstage,
  • 00:39:47.240 --> 00:39:49.090
  • and I have none other than
  • 00:39:49.090 --> 00:39:51.040
  • Joe and Danielle Peña
  • 00:39:51.040 --> 00:39:53.200
  • from Relentless Church
  • 00:39:53.200 --> 00:39:54.270
  • in Las Vegas, Nevada.
  • 00:39:54.270 --> 00:39:57.200
  • Whew, Vegas, out of all cities.
  • 00:39:58.010 --> 00:40:01.010
  • Tell me about this.
  • 00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:02.000
  • Why'd you pick Vegas?
  • 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.180
  • - Joe: It's a pretty crazy
  • 00:40:03.180 --> 00:40:04.090
  • story, actually.
  • 00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:05.120
  • And before we in Las Vegas,
  • 00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:07.140
  • I lived in Montana.
  • 00:40:07.140 --> 00:40:09.040
  • I was a youth pastor.
  • 00:40:09.040 --> 00:40:09.280
  • And Montana's not very
  • 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.170
  • ethnically diverse.
  • 00:40:12.170 --> 00:40:14.160
  • And so there was a season
  • 00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:15.290
  • in my life
  • 00:40:15.290 --> 00:40:16.190
  • that I was super frustrated.
  • 00:40:16.190 --> 00:40:17.230
  • And I didn't grow up that way.
  • 00:40:17.230 --> 00:40:20.010
  • And I knew that God
  • 00:40:20.010 --> 00:40:21.090
  • had more for us.
  • 00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:22.170
  • And so just during some
  • 00:40:22.170 --> 00:40:23.250
  • prayer time, I was in my car,
  • 00:40:23.250 --> 00:40:26.020
  • listening to worship,
  • 00:40:26.020 --> 00:40:27.050
  • talking to Jesus, just upset.
  • 00:40:27.050 --> 00:40:29.260
  • And I heard him say,
  • 00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:32.010
  • "Joe, I'm calling you
  • 00:40:32.010 --> 00:40:33.070
  • to go to Las Vegas
  • 00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:34.240
  • to go start a church."
  • 00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:36.110
  • And it didn't happen
  • 00:40:36.110 --> 00:40:37.050
  • till years later.
  • 00:40:37.050 --> 00:40:38.160
  • But at that moment,
  • 00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:39.160
  • I was so encouraged
  • 00:40:39.160 --> 00:40:40.120
  • because I knew that
  • 00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:41.220
  • this Hispanic young guy wasn't
  • 00:40:42.010 --> 00:40:45.010
  • gonna stay stuck in the cold,
  • 00:40:45.010 --> 00:40:46.170
  • honestly.
  • 00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:47.240
  • And that's our story.
  • 00:40:47.240 --> 00:40:49.230
  • That's how we ended up
  • 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:50.270
  • picking Las Vegas.
  • 00:40:50.270 --> 00:40:51.270
  • God picked it for us.
  • 00:40:51.270 --> 00:40:52.290
  • - Niyah: Wow, wow.
  • 00:40:52.290 --> 00:40:53.280
  • Now, okay, Danielle, I gotta
  • 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:54.280
  • talk to you 'cause, as the wife,
  • 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.240
  • your husband comes to you.
  • 00:40:56.240 --> 00:40:58.070
  • Take me to that time where
  • 00:40:58.070 --> 00:40:59.190
  • he comes to you, he says,
  • 00:40:59.190 --> 00:41:00.110
  • "Honey, God told me
  • 00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:01.160
  • we're goin' to Vegas."
  • 00:41:01.160 --> 00:41:03.060
  • Now, when you hear, "Vegas,"
  • 00:41:03.060 --> 00:41:04.140
  • you think, "Sin City."
  • 00:41:04.140 --> 00:41:06.040
  • You think, "What happens
  • 00:41:06.040 --> 00:41:07.080
  • in Vegas stays in Vegas."
  • 00:41:07.080 --> 00:41:08.230
  • You're a mom
  • 00:41:08.230 --> 00:41:09.150
  • of two beautiful young girls.
  • 00:41:09.150 --> 00:41:11.280
  • What's going through your mind?
  • 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.150
  • - Danielle Peña:
  • 00:41:13.150 --> 00:41:14.010
  • Well, I remember
  • 00:41:14.010 --> 00:41:14.230
  • being in my kitchen.
  • 00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:15.250
  • I was washing dishes,
  • 00:41:15.250 --> 00:41:16.210
  • and he called me
  • 00:41:16.210 --> 00:41:17.080
  • 'cause he so excited.
  • 00:41:17.080 --> 00:41:18.120
  • And he's like,
  • 00:41:18.120 --> 00:41:18.290
  • "Honey, guess what?
  • 00:41:18.290 --> 00:41:19.190
  • God just spoke to me."
  • 00:41:19.190 --> 00:41:20.140
  • And I was like, "What, babe?
  • 00:41:20.140 --> 00:41:22.120
  • What happened?"
  • 00:41:22.120 --> 00:41:23.030
  • And he said, "God said that
  • 00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:25.090
  • we're gonna move to Las Vegas
  • 00:41:25.090 --> 00:41:26.130
  • in 2 years and we're gonna plant
  • 00:41:26.130 --> 00:41:27.250
  • a church."
  • 00:41:27.250 --> 00:41:28.140
  • And I just stopped,
  • 00:41:28.140 --> 00:41:29.110
  • just, "No, honey,
  • 00:41:29.110 --> 00:41:32.070
  • that's really great--"
  • 00:41:32.070 --> 00:41:33.140
  • - Niyah: I think that probably
  • 00:41:33.140 --> 00:41:34.030
  • would be my reaction as well.
  • 00:41:34.030 --> 00:41:34.280
  • - Danielle: Yeah, like,
  • 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:35.150
  • "I'm really excited for you.
  • 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:37.000
  • I'm really excited.
  • 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:37.250
  • And you know,
  • 00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:39.040
  • that's great, honey.
  • 00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:39.270
  • Can you please call our pastor?
  • 00:41:39.270 --> 00:41:41.030
  • I think you need to call
  • 00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:41.200
  • our pastor."
  • 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:42.210
  • And just tried to be excited
  • 00:41:42.210 --> 00:41:43.230
  • about it.
  • 00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:44.170
  • But I was definitely scared.
  • 00:41:44.170 --> 00:41:46.050
  • I didn't wanna do it.
  • 00:41:46.050 --> 00:41:47.120
  • - Niyah: Wow.
  • 00:41:47.120 --> 00:41:48.000
  • - Joe: She wasn't excited
  • 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:48.160
  • about it at all, at all.
  • 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:50.090
  • - Niyah: Now, I have to ask.
  • 00:41:50.090 --> 00:41:51.140
  • I can assume
  • 00:41:51.140 --> 00:41:52.030
  • why you're not excited,
  • 00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:52.250
  • but why weren't you excited?
  • 00:41:52.250 --> 00:41:54.070
  • - Danielle: Well, like you
  • 00:41:54.070 --> 00:41:54.250
  • said, Vegas.
  • 00:41:54.250 --> 00:41:55.210
  • You think of it as, "Sin City."
  • 00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:57.040
  • And it's this awful, dirty place
  • 00:41:57.040 --> 00:41:58.230
  • is what I think about it.
  • 00:41:58.230 --> 00:41:59.230
  • And I had two little girls, and
  • 00:41:59.230 --> 00:42:00.210
  • I'm like, "Prostitution's legal.
  • 00:42:00.210 --> 00:42:02.160
  • I don't want my kids to grow up
  • 00:42:02.160 --> 00:42:03.130
  • thinking that they're not valued
  • 00:42:03.130 --> 00:42:05.050
  • as women."
  • 00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:06.060
  • And so I just,
  • 00:42:06.060 --> 00:42:06.280
  • I was nervous for that aspect.
  • 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.000
  • - Niyah: Okay, so,
  • 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:09.220
  • you had your fear.
  • 00:42:09.220 --> 00:42:11.040
  • You were just like, "Oh, no,
  • 00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:12.110
  • absolutely, honey, we're not
  • 00:42:12.110 --> 00:42:13.190
  • going there, not Vegas."
  • 00:42:13.190 --> 00:42:14.280
  • But you've been in Vegas
  • 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.140
  • now pastoring Relentless
  • 00:42:16.140 --> 00:42:17.180
  • for like a year and a half now.
  • 00:42:17.180 --> 00:42:18.280
  • So you said, "Yes."
  • 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:20.130
  • How did you get to that, "Yes"?
  • 00:42:20.130 --> 00:42:22.100
  • - Danielle: It was really
  • 00:42:22.100 --> 00:42:23.070
  • just a God moment.
  • 00:42:23.070 --> 00:42:25.020
  • I was just praying, and I said,
  • 00:42:25.020 --> 00:42:27.130
  • "God, why?"
  • 00:42:27.130 --> 00:42:28.140
  • Like, "I don't wanna do this."
  • 00:42:28.140 --> 00:42:29.100
  • 'Cause my husband
  • 00:42:29.100 --> 00:42:29.280
  • was pretty determined to go.
  • 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.030
  • He knew that he had heard
  • 00:42:31.030 --> 00:42:32.140
  • from God, and so I needed that.
  • 00:42:32.140 --> 00:42:34.070
  • And I just prayed through.
  • 00:42:34.070 --> 00:42:35.250
  • And he said,
  • 00:42:35.250 --> 00:42:36.110
  • "Danielle, why won't you do
  • 00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:37.100
  • what I've called you to do?
  • 00:42:37.100 --> 00:42:38.120
  • You've always said,
  • 00:42:38.120 --> 00:42:39.000
  • 'I'll do whatever.
  • 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:39.230
  • I'll go wherever, I'll do
  • 00:42:39.230 --> 00:42:40.280
  • anything for you, Jesus.'"
  • 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:42.160
  • And so he just broke me
  • 00:42:42.160 --> 00:42:43.280
  • in that moment.
  • 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:44.240
  • And then, we also had
  • 00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:46.030
  • great pastors at that time that
  • 00:42:46.030 --> 00:42:48.160
  • they saw the call on our lives.
  • 00:42:48.160 --> 00:42:50.070
  • They said we could do it.
  • 00:42:50.070 --> 00:42:51.040
  • Our elders said we could do it.
  • 00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:52.160
  • And we had people come around us
  • 00:42:52.160 --> 00:42:54.090
  • and say, "Yes, we see it."
  • 00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:55.240
  • - Niyah: So what would you say
  • 00:42:55.240 --> 00:42:56.260
  • to someone that's at home
  • 00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:57.260
  • that's kinda watchin' this,
  • 00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:58.250
  • and just is like,
  • 00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:00.020
  • "Oh, my husband came to this.
  • 00:43:00.020 --> 00:43:00.230
  • I think that's where
  • 00:43:00.230 --> 00:43:01.130
  • we're supposed to go,
  • 00:43:01.130 --> 00:43:02.090
  • but I'm a little fearful.
  • 00:43:02.090 --> 00:43:03.150
  • I have a family.
  • 00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:04.080
  • I have kids.
  • 00:43:04.080 --> 00:43:05.010
  • We can't."
  • 00:43:05.010 --> 00:43:05.230
  • - Danielle: Yeah, I would say
  • 00:43:05.230 --> 00:43:06.280
  • God is faithful.
  • 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.020
  • He is always faithful,
  • 00:43:08.020 --> 00:43:09.210
  • and he has never let us down.
  • 00:43:09.210 --> 00:43:11.130
  • And we don't need faith
  • 00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:13.100
  • until we have a need.
  • 00:43:13.100 --> 00:43:15.130
  • And so I think if we don't
  • 00:43:15.130 --> 00:43:16.190
  • put ourselves in a place to have
  • 00:43:16.190 --> 00:43:18.220
  • faith, then we're not gonna see
  • 00:43:18.220 --> 00:43:20.180
  • God do amazing things.
  • 00:43:20.180 --> 00:43:21.140
  • And so, for me, just taking
  • 00:43:21.140 --> 00:43:23.140
  • that step out and going
  • 00:43:23.140 --> 00:43:24.290
  • "Yeah, God, I'll do it,"
  • 00:43:24.290 --> 00:43:26.290
  • and seeing him,
  • 00:43:26.290 --> 00:43:28.090
  • he's done so many great things
  • 00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:29.290
  • lately I'm sure we don't
  • 00:43:29.290 --> 00:43:30.270
  • have time to talk about.
  • 00:43:30.270 --> 00:43:31.280
  • But it's just because we had
  • 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.180
  • that need, and he has been
  • 00:43:33.180 --> 00:43:35.020
  • so faithful to meet us there.
  • 00:43:35.020 --> 00:43:36.140
  • - Niyah: So a year and a half
  • 00:43:36.140 --> 00:43:37.050
  • in Vegas.
  • 00:43:37.050 --> 00:43:37.240
  • You guys are new.
  • 00:43:37.240 --> 00:43:38.290
  • This is awesome.
  • 00:43:38.290 --> 00:43:40.040
  • Okay, what's the journey
  • 00:43:40.040 --> 00:43:41.050
  • been like?
  • 00:43:41.050 --> 00:43:42.030
  • - Joe: It's been crazy.
  • 00:43:42.030 --> 00:43:43.090
  • It's been brutal-ful,
  • 00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:45.050
  • beautiful, brutal.
  • 00:43:45.050 --> 00:43:46.070
  • It's--
  • 00:43:46.070 --> 00:43:47.140
  • - Niyah: Okay, brutal,
  • 00:43:47.140 --> 00:43:48.020
  • what's the brutal?
  • 00:43:48.020 --> 00:43:48.260
  • Talk to me, now.
  • 00:43:48.260 --> 00:43:49.170
  • When you say, "Brutal,"
  • 00:43:49.170 --> 00:43:50.110
  • I wanna hear it.
  • 00:43:50.110 --> 00:43:51.120
  • - Joe: When you move into a
  • 00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:52.070
  • city, and you don't know anyone,
  • 00:43:52.070 --> 00:43:54.220
  • and you detach yourself
  • 00:43:54.220 --> 00:43:56.040
  • from your support system,
  • 00:43:56.040 --> 00:43:57.090
  • from your friends,
  • 00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:58.000
  • from the people
  • 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.170
  • you're doin' life with,
  • 00:43:59.170 --> 00:44:00.270
  • and then you enter a new city,
  • 00:44:00.270 --> 00:44:02.200
  • just isolation just comes
  • 00:44:02.200 --> 00:44:05.050
  • over you.
  • 00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:06.110
  • And it gets really depressing
  • 00:44:06.110 --> 00:44:07.270
  • and kinda dark, even though
  • 00:44:07.270 --> 00:44:08.250
  • you know you're there because
  • 00:44:08.250 --> 00:44:10.040
  • God called you to be there.
  • 00:44:10.040 --> 00:44:11.230
  • It doesn't always feel like
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  • he is there.
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  • You feel all alone.
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  • And so that season for us
  • 00:44:15.240 --> 00:44:17.050
  • was pretty dark, actually, just
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  • transitioning into our new city.
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  • - Niyah: So how did you get
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  • through that?
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  • How did you push through that?
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  • - Joe: Honestly,
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  • we just were focused.
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  • We knew why God had sent us
  • 00:44:29.100 --> 00:44:30.290
  • there, to rescue people
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  • that needed hope, you know?
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  • And when I think of Las Vegas,
  • 00:44:33.230 --> 00:44:36.040
  • I think of every broken person,
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  • every relationship
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  • that's strugglin'.
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  • I think of every addiction, and
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  • just the brokenness of our city.
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  • And so just, it's seeing people
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  • come to Jesus every single week
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  • has really been the fire for us,
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  • and it's been the thing
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  • that has kept us going.
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  • - Joe: I remember walking into
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  • the room and thinking, "Okay,
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  • God, I know you're there.
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  • I don't know how to do this,
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  • but I'm gonna surrender
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  • my whole life to you, Jesus."
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  • No one led me in a prayer.
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  • I just walked in
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  • and I made a decision.
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  • Just like I was all out
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  • with the things that I was doing
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  • on the street, and so I was
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  • all out at that moment
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  • when I gave my life
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  • to Jesus, as I walked through
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  • - Niyah: There's another reason
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  • why you guys picked Vegas,
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  • right?
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  • Your history, your, you know,
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  • what's been going on
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  • in your youth.
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  • - Joe: Well, I never knew
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  • my biological father.
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  • He was never there.
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  • My parents divorced
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  • when I was pretty young.
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  • And then she got remarried.
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  • And then he got in trouble with
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  • the law, and he was in prison.
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  • And so I was raised
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  • by a hardworking mom
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  • that I barely even saw.
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  • And so I started getting into
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  • crime, and gangs, and I started
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  • using drugs heavily.
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  • And that's the path
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  • that I was on.
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  • You know, I didn't grow up
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  • in a Christian home.
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  • We didn't have those
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  • kinda values.
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  • We didn't go to church.
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  • We didn't really know
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  • about church.
  • 00:46:04.020 --> 00:46:05.020
  • And at 16 years old,
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  • I'm at a place
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  • where I get arrested
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  • for doing a bunch of stuff.
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  • And my probation officer,
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  • with my mom,
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  • who had just found her
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  • new faith in Christ, they find
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  • this place called Teen Challenge
  • 00:46:16.200 --> 00:46:18.090
  • that is a faith-based rehab.
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  • And I get the decision
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  • and the choice to go to rehab
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  • or to a teen prison in Nevada.
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  • And so that is
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  • where I met Jesus.
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  • I remember walking into the room
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  • and thinking,
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  • "Okay, God, I know you're there.
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  • I don't know how to do this,
  • 00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:35.250
  • but I'm gonna surrender my whole
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  • life to you, Jesus."
  • 00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:39.060
  • No one led me in a prayer.
  • 00:46:39.060 --> 00:46:40.210
  • I just walked in
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  • and I made a decision.
  • 00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:42.160
  • Just like I was all out with the
  • 00:46:42.160 --> 00:46:44.250
  • things that I was doing on the
  • 00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:45.290
  • street, and so I was all out at
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  • that moment when I gave my life
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  • to Jesus, as I walked through
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  • those doors.
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  • - Niyah: And there's a
  • 00:46:52.160 --> 00:46:53.030
  • connection here because you guys
  • 00:46:53.030 --> 00:46:54.210
  • met in Teen Challenge,
  • 00:46:54.210 --> 00:46:55.220
  • is that right?
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  • - Danielle: Yes, and so I was
  • 00:46:56.100 --> 00:46:56.280
  • a country girl just needing
  • 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.210
  • something to do.
  • 00:46:57.210 --> 00:46:58.180
  • And so went from doing drugs,
  • 00:46:58.180 --> 00:47:00.090
  • to dealing drugs,
  • 00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:01.030
  • to getting arrested
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  • and going to Teen Challenge.
  • 00:47:02.200 --> 00:47:04.220
  • - Niyah: Wow.
  • 00:47:04.220 --> 00:47:05.140
  • And you grew up
  • 00:47:05.140 --> 00:47:06.010
  • in a Christian home?
  • 00:47:06.010 --> 00:47:06.220
  • - Danielle: I did grow up
  • 00:47:06.220 --> 00:47:07.160
  • in a Christian home.
  • 00:47:07.160 --> 00:47:08.160
  • And so I was just stubborn
  • 00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:09.070
  • and rebellious.
  • 00:47:09.070 --> 00:47:10.110
  • - Niyah: And you met Jesus
  • 00:47:10.110 --> 00:47:11.140
  • there in Teen Challenge?
  • 00:47:11.140 --> 00:47:12.190
  • - Danielle: And I knew
  • 00:47:12.190 --> 00:47:13.210
  • I was going to.
  • 00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:14.120
  • When I went to Teen Challenge,
  • 00:47:14.120 --> 00:47:15.190
  • I said, "This is it.
  • 00:47:15.190 --> 00:47:16.120
  • I'm done.
  • 00:47:16.120 --> 00:47:17.020
  • I'm done with this darkness.
  • 00:47:17.020 --> 00:47:18.150
  • I'm done with this lifestyle."
  • 00:47:18.150 --> 00:47:19.190
  • And I knew
  • 00:47:19.190 --> 00:47:20.050
  • I wanted to serve Jesus.
  • 00:47:20.050 --> 00:47:21.030
  • And so jumped in.
  • 00:47:21.030 --> 00:47:23.000
  • - Niyah: This is incredible.
  • 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.070
  • So how's it been now?
  • 00:47:24.070 --> 00:47:25.200
  • Like, what's next for
  • 00:47:25.200 --> 00:47:26.260
  • Relentless Church?
  • 00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:28.070
  • - Joe: I see a lot of stuff
  • 00:47:28.070 --> 00:47:29.160
  • down the line.
  • 00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:30.170
  • But at this season that we're
  • 00:47:30.170 --> 00:47:32.190
  • in, we're honestly just loving
  • 00:47:32.190 --> 00:47:34.280
  • God and loving people,
  • 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.100
  • and building our team.
  • 00:47:36.100 --> 00:47:38.030
  • And we really wanna strengthen
  • 00:47:38.030 --> 00:47:39.090
  • our team and continue
  • 00:47:39.090 --> 00:47:40.220
  • to reach people.
  • 00:47:40.220 --> 00:47:41.220
  • Every single weekend,
  • 00:47:41.220 --> 00:47:43.010
  • people come to know Jesus.
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  • The thing that I love
  • 00:47:44.210 --> 00:47:45.210
  • about Las Vegas
  • 00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:46.150
  • that maybe a lot of people
  • 00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:47.150
  • don't realize is when you
  • 00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:49.110
  • present the hope that there
  • 00:47:49.110 --> 00:47:50.250
  • is in Jesus,
  • 00:47:50.250 --> 00:47:51.240
  • people are gravitated to Jesus.
  • 00:47:51.240 --> 00:47:54.200
  • And they come to him
  • 00:47:54.200 --> 00:47:55.250
  • just through the multitudes.
  • 00:47:55.250 --> 00:47:57.150
  • And so what we're really doing
  • 00:47:57.150 --> 00:47:59.080
  • is we're trying to
  • 00:47:59.080 --> 00:47:59.290
  • just pastor our people,
  • 00:47:59.290 --> 00:48:01.180
  • love our people,
  • 00:48:01.180 --> 00:48:02.150
  • lead our people.
  • 00:48:02.150 --> 00:48:03.130
  • And when God gives us
  • 00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:04.150
  • the opportunity,
  • 00:48:04.150 --> 00:48:05.090
  • and when we're ready,
  • 00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:06.040
  • we really wanna spread
  • 00:48:06.040 --> 00:48:07.100
  • throughout the whole city.
  • 00:48:07.100 --> 00:48:08.120
  • So we really feel called for the
  • 00:48:08.120 --> 00:48:09.270
  • long term to our city to love
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  • our city.
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  • - Niyah: I love that.
  • 00:48:12.090 --> 00:48:13.000
  • Wow, you guys are incredible.
  • 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:14.140
  • Thank you so, so much
  • 00:48:14.140 --> 00:48:15.210
  • for sharing your story.
  • 00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:17.120
  • You have inspired me.
  • 00:48:17.120 --> 00:48:18.120
  • I love it.
  • 00:48:18.120 --> 00:48:19.110
  • I'm comin' to Vegas.
  • 00:48:19.110 --> 00:48:20.060
  • But I'm not comin' to Vegas
  • 00:48:20.060 --> 00:48:21.120
  • for what, you know,
  • 00:48:21.120 --> 00:48:22.240
  • other people go to Vegas for.
  • 00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:23.160
  • But I'm comin'
  • 00:48:23.160 --> 00:48:24.050
  • to Relentless Church.
  • 00:48:24.050 --> 00:48:24.260
  • I wanna come
  • 00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:25.110
  • and check out your church.
  • 00:48:25.110 --> 00:48:26.150
  • Well, you guys are awesome
  • 00:48:26.150 --> 00:48:27.180
  • pastors.
  • 00:48:27.180 --> 00:48:28.100
  • I'm loving what you guys
  • 00:48:28.100 --> 00:48:29.070
  • are doin' there.
  • 00:48:29.070 --> 00:48:30.030
  • Praise God
  • 00:48:30.030 --> 00:48:31.070
  • for Relentless Church.
  • 00:48:31.070 --> 00:48:32.070
  • Pastor Joe and Danielle,
  • 00:48:32.070 --> 00:48:34.160
  • Relentless Church.
  • 00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:35.250
  • We have so many other stories
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  • that are here
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  • at Hillsong Conference.
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  • So you don't wanna go anywhere
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  • 'cause it's all happening right
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  • - Brian: Well, I thank you
  • 00:48:45.040 --> 00:48:45.230
  • so much for joining us.
  • 00:48:45.230 --> 00:48:47.010
  • I really pray that one day you
  • 00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:49.030
  • can join me and many others at
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  • one of our Hillsong Conferences
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  • and seek to serve kingdom
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  • Thanks again for joining us.
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  • And don't ever forget,
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  • Like a fire in my bones
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