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Kings and Queens Part 3

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  • - Brian Houston: Thank you,
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  • Father, for your presence here.
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  • Thank you, Lord, we get to
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  • consider your wonder.
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  • How wonderful, Father.
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  • Lord, thank you for every person
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  • who gathered, every location,
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  • everywhere we gather tonight,
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  • all around the land.
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  • Father, we thank you you're with
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  • us.
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  • The Holy Spirit is here.
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  • The presence of God is here.
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  • And Lord, we're so grateful for
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  • it, in Jesus' name, in Jesus'
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  • name, amen, amen, amen.
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  • You guys can be seated.
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  • "Kings and Queens."
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  • I'm speaking about "Kings and
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  • Queens."
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  • I wanna talk today about
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  • "Raising Up Kings."
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  • And I wanna start by telling you
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  • a story.
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  • When we started our church all
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  • those years ago, we were a small
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  • crowd of people, and a lot of
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  • keen people, a lot of young
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  • people, a lot of people all
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  • fired up.
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  • It wasn't too long before people
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  • were becoming Christians.
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  • Great things were happening.
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  • But we really didn't have what I
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  • would call, "Kings," or,
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  • "Queens," and most of us were
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  • just young and starting out in
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  • what we were doing.
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  • In other words, we didn't have
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  • people of significant influence
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  • or influences.
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  • But there was one man, his name
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  • was Narby, who came with his
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  • wife, Angela.
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  • And I didn't know they were
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  • there, but other people started
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  • to tell me about Narby and
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  • Angela, and he had a fairly
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  • significant business roasting
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  • coffee and doing such things.
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  • And so, eventually, I was
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  • encouraged by somebody else to
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  • start meeting up with Narby.
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  • So, a long time, over 30 years
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  • ago, Narby and I started
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  • meeting once a week to have
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  • breakfast.
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  • I love it because he puts into
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  • me, I put into him, and we tell
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  • each other what's going on in
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  • our world.
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  • Sometimes we confide in each
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  • other.
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  • It's really an awesome time.
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  • But the thing about Narby right
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  • from the start was he just stood
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  • out for me because he was what I
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  • would call, "The elder in a
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  • church or a board member in a
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  • church that every church needs."
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  • So, I remember one time, many
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  • years ago, looking at Narby and
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  • what a blessing he was, all the
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  • way from his generosity through
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  • to his incredible big thinking
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  • and his big spirit.
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  • And I remember thinking, "God,
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  • bring in more people like
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  • Narby."
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  • Clear as anything, I felt the
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  • Holy Spirit spoke to me and
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  • said, "You have to raise them
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  • up."
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  • In other words, "They're not
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  • gonna come in the door.
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  • You have to raise them up."
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  • And so, from that time till
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  • this, our church has had a
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  • revelation of the importance of
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  • putting into people, raising
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  • people up, believing in people,
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  • expecting God's very best for
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  • people.
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  • And so, we've seen the fruit of
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  • it.
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  • And so, I mentioned kings, such
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  • as the ones that came from
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  • Abraham.
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  • The Bible says in Genesis
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  • chapter 17, verse 6 about
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  • Abraham that the Lord said to
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  • him: "'I'll make you exceedingly
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  • fruitful; I'll make nations of
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  • you, and kings shall come from
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  • you.'"
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  • That's what I've always believed
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  • for our church, that kings will
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  • come from us, that people would
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  • rise up in all walks of life who
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  • literally reigned in whatever it
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  • is that God called them to do.
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  • For Sarah, in verse 16, it's a
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  • similar promise.
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  • For Sarah, you can see it there:
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  • "'I will bless Sarah and also
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  • give her a son; and then I will
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  • bless her, and she shall be a
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  • mother of nation; kings of
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  • people shall be from her.'"
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  • I have faith to believe tonight
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  • across every part of our church
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  • that there are people sitting
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  • here now, some of you may be
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  • young, some not even perhaps at
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  • this point believers in Jesus
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  • Christ, people, brand-new
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  • Christians, people, and it's
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  • hard for you to believe where
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  • God could take your life.
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  • But I think you're in the right
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  • place if you want the kind of
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  • input, the kind of faith, the
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  • kind of belief, the kind of
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  • investment where you get the
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  • kind of inspiration and
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  • encouragement that will cause
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  • you to rise up, fulfill your
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  • potential, carve out in life all
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  • those things that God prepared
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  • you.
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  • And so then you come to their
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  • grandson Jacob and it's in
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  • Genesis 35, verse 11, and it
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  • says a similar thing about
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  • Jacob.
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  • It says: "'Also God said to him:
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  • 'I am God Almighty.
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  • Be fruitful and multiply; a
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  • nation and a company of nations
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  • shall proceed from you, and
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  • kings shall come from your
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  • body.'"
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  • To which I think about parents
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  • and think about what we're
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  • believing for our children,
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  • those who come from our body
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  • literally.
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  • But I also think about this,
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  • we're the body of Christ.
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  • The body of Christ is much
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  • bigger than us, it's universal.
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  • But of course, as a church,
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  • we're a body.
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  • We're a community and a family,
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  • and I absolutely believe that
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  • it's the will of God.
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  • And some of you are sitting,
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  • looking at me right now, and
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  • already God's doing good things
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  • in your life.
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  • But I believe it's the will of
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  • God for kings to come from our
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  • body, from this church, from our
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  • ministry in every sphere of
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  • life, amen.
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  • Because I love what influence
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  • does.
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  • Ultimately, it makes you more
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  • effective.
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  • And so when I think about
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  • influence, I think about it
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  • leaves a mark and it leaves a
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  • legacy.
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  • I think about the fact that
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  • through influence, you can make
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  • a greater difference.
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  • I thank God that with influence,
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  • you can change the future.
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  • People influenced my life over
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  • the years that literally changed
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  • my future.
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  • And by changing my future, they
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  • changed my family's future, and
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  • it changed my church's future,
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  • our church's future.
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  • Man, the children that came from
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  • our body, the kings that have
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  • come from our body when it comes
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  • to worship and ministry and
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  • leadership and youth and so many
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  • things.
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  • To me, that's inspiring, it's
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  • powerful.
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  • That's what we are all about
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  • right there, influence.
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  • Not only will it give you a seat
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  • at the table like it will, it
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  • literally gives you a seat at a
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  • table that without influence,
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  • you would not be sitting at.
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  • I don't know what table it could
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  • be.
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  • It could be literally a
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  • ministry-board table.
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  • It could be a business-board
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  • table.
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  • It could be a corporate-board
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  • table.
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  • It could be a NGO-board table or
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  • a non-profit-board table.
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  • It could be a table that only
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  • God could put you at, and it was
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  • only because you've done
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  • something in your life.
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  • You're doing something in your
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  • life.
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  • You've got something to add.
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  • You've got something to
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  • contribute.
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  • That's what influence, it does.
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  • It gives you a seat at the
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  • table, a seat that perhaps you
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  • never thought you would occupy.
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  • I mean, King David, he got
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  • Mephibosheth, who was at the
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  • lowest ebb, in the lowest place
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  • in the Old Testament.
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  • He came from a place called
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  • what?
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  • Lo Debar, and Lo Debar, what
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  • happened?
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  • The bar was set very--and he
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  • goes, offered a seat at the
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  • king's table.
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  • Influence will do that for you.
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  • It will, it'll give you a seat
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  • at the table.
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  • And I think that's powerful.
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  • It will also add weight to your
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  • words.
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  • All of a sudden, your words have
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  • more weight.
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  • There's greater lean in when you
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  • speak.
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  • You're the same person.
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  • You've got the same tongue.
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  • You're sharing similar words.
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  • Your vocabulary hasn't, you
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  • know, radically changed, but
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  • suddenly, influence'll give
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  • weight to your words.
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  • It will also open supernatural
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  • doors, supernatural doors.
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  • At the end of the day, influence
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  • enables us to reign in life.
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  • Listen again to Romans chapter
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  • 5, verse 17.
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  • I love it.
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  • It says here that: "Through the
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  • abundance of grace and gift of
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  • righteousness," the abundance of
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  • grace and the gift of
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  • righteousness, "you will reign
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  • in life through the one, Jesus
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  • Christ."
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  • How powerful is that?
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  • That's what I'm talking about.
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  • Kings and queens, that's the
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  • will of God for you, to reign in
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  • life.
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  • Not to be the tail but to be the
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  • head, to be a person who, in
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  • life, you've been put into,
  • 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:17.260
  • you've been invested into, and
  • 00:08:17.260 --> 00:08:19.130
  • you've seen how your life is
  • 00:08:19.130 --> 00:08:21.030
  • lifted.
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  • God is doing great things.
  • 00:08:21.280 --> 00:08:22.290
  • So, we believe for that in every
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  • sphere of life.
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  • So, let's not sell ourselves
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  • short.
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  • Let's not believe for too
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  • little.
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  • Let's step up into all that God
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  • has got for us.
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  • And of course, family, we're a
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  • church.
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  • And so, come on.
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  • Come on, what about you?
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  • What about--?
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  • "Oh, that's not for me, oh."
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  • Hey, don't forget what God can
  • 00:08:38.190 --> 00:08:40.120
  • do with short arms.
  • 00:08:40.210 --> 00:08:43.210
  • With the Lord on your side, your
  • 00:08:43.210 --> 00:08:44.230
  • short arms can have a very long
  • 00:08:44.230 --> 00:08:46.130
  • - Brian: It's never about
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  • ourselves.
  • 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:53.290
  • It's always about others.
  • 00:08:53.290 --> 00:08:55.290
  • It always invests into the lives
  • 00:08:55.290 --> 00:08:58.050
  • and the future of people that
  • 00:08:58.050 --> 00:09:00.160
  • God wants to raise up and do
  • 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:02.040
  • something powerful with.
  • 00:09:02.040 --> 00:09:03.230
  • It always imparts.
  • 00:09:03.230 --> 00:09:05.090
  • It always does something that
  • 00:09:05.090 --> 00:09:06.210
  • brings transformation and
  • 00:09:06.210 --> 00:09:07.260
  • - Brian: You say, "Well, how do
  • 00:09:11.150 --> 00:09:12.090
  • we build these people?
  • 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:13.000
  • How do we do it?
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  • How do we raise kings?
  • 00:09:13.270 --> 00:09:15.100
  • How do we raise queens?"
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  • The Bible is full of gifts, all
  • 00:09:16.170 --> 00:09:18.010
  • sorts of gifts, gifts that God
  • 00:09:18.010 --> 00:09:20.030
  • gives us.
  • 00:09:20.030 --> 00:09:21.020
  • There's gifts in Ephesians 4
  • 00:09:21.020 --> 00:09:22.200
  • that are called "ministry
  • 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:23.190
  • gifts."
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  • In 1 Corinthians 12, there's
  • 00:09:24.130 --> 00:09:25.200
  • gifts.
  • 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:26.080
  • And in Romans 12, there's gifts.
  • 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.160
  • There's ministry gifts.
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  • There's spiritual gifts.
  • 00:09:30.110 --> 00:09:31.130
  • There's what some people call
  • 00:09:31.130 --> 00:09:32.110
  • "motivational gifts."
  • 00:09:32.110 --> 00:09:33.210
  • In 1 Peter 4, it talks about
  • 00:09:33.210 --> 00:09:35.210
  • gifts and talks about manifold
  • 00:09:35.210 --> 00:09:37.210
  • gifts, which mean there are just
  • 00:09:37.210 --> 00:09:39.040
  • a multitude, just so many
  • 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:41.040
  • different gifts.
  • 00:09:41.040 --> 00:09:42.030
  • There's all these gifts that
  • 00:09:42.030 --> 00:09:43.030
  • come from God.
  • 00:09:43.030 --> 00:09:44.050
  • But guess what?
  • 00:09:44.050 --> 00:09:45.120
  • Not one of them, not one of them
  • 00:09:45.250 --> 00:09:48.250
  • is for you.
  • 00:09:48.250 --> 00:09:51.150
  • If God's put gifts on your life,
  • 00:09:51.150 --> 00:09:53.060
  • it is not for you.
  • 00:09:53.060 --> 00:09:55.100
  • And whatever gifts God's put on
  • 00:09:55.100 --> 00:09:56.240
  • my life, it is not for me.
  • 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:59.170
  • It's always about glorifying God
  • 00:09:59.170 --> 00:10:02.120
  • and putting into others, see
  • 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.170
  • others encouraged, see others
  • 00:10:04.170 --> 00:10:05.260
  • changed, see others inspired,
  • 00:10:05.260 --> 00:10:07.240
  • begin to lift other people up,
  • 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:09.170
  • begin to raise other people, and
  • 00:10:09.170 --> 00:10:11.030
  • to begin to see God do in other
  • 00:10:11.030 --> 00:10:13.250
  • people's life what only God can
  • 00:10:13.250 --> 00:10:15.160
  • do.
  • 00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:16.020
  • I'm desperate to see not just
  • 00:10:16.020 --> 00:10:17.280
  • the same rate of people rising
  • 00:10:17.280 --> 00:10:19.210
  • to places of influence, it's
  • 00:10:19.210 --> 00:10:21.090
  • okay to meet people of
  • 00:10:21.090 --> 00:10:22.160
  • influence, but I wanna go a step
  • 00:10:22.160 --> 00:10:24.050
  • further.
  • 00:10:24.050 --> 00:10:24.280
  • I want us to raise people of
  • 00:10:24.280 --> 00:10:26.080
  • influence.
  • 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.050
  • I want them to come from this
  • 00:10:27.050 --> 00:10:28.060
  • body.
  • 00:10:28.060 --> 00:10:29.050
  • I want them to come from among
  • 00:10:29.050 --> 00:10:30.090
  • you guys here, in Jesus' name.
  • 00:10:30.090 --> 00:10:32.260
  • And so that's what I'm
  • 00:10:32.260 --> 00:10:33.260
  • believing, we'll see God do more
  • 00:10:33.260 --> 00:10:35.090
  • and more and more and more.
  • 00:10:35.090 --> 00:10:38.010
  • It's never about ourselves.
  • 00:10:38.010 --> 00:10:39.270
  • It's always about others.
  • 00:10:39.270 --> 00:10:42.050
  • It always invests into the lives
  • 00:10:42.050 --> 00:10:44.130
  • and the future of people that
  • 00:10:44.130 --> 00:10:46.210
  • God wants to raise up and do
  • 00:10:46.210 --> 00:10:48.100
  • something powerful with.
  • 00:10:48.100 --> 00:10:49.280
  • It always imparts.
  • 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:51.160
  • It always does something that
  • 00:10:51.160 --> 00:10:52.270
  • brings transformation and
  • 00:10:52.270 --> 00:10:54.020
  • change.
  • 00:10:54.020 --> 00:10:54.260
  • So let's be believers that God
  • 00:10:54.260 --> 00:10:56.180
  • not only gives gifts, but he
  • 00:10:56.180 --> 00:10:58.050
  • gives us gifts so our lives can
  • 00:10:58.050 --> 00:11:00.050
  • be influential.
  • 00:11:00.050 --> 00:11:02.270
  • And I think about some of the
  • 00:11:02.270 --> 00:11:03.210
  • various gifts that are in the
  • 00:11:03.210 --> 00:11:04.230
  • Bible and the way that they can
  • 00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:06.290
  • build other people's lives and
  • 00:11:06.290 --> 00:11:08.130
  • it excites me.
  • 00:11:08.130 --> 00:11:09.270
  • It excites me.
  • 00:11:09.270 --> 00:11:11.200
  • I could just take Romans 12,
  • 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.180
  • verse 6 to 8, just some of these
  • 00:11:13.180 --> 00:11:15.070
  • gifts, Romans 12, verse 6 to 8,
  • 00:11:15.070 --> 00:11:18.030
  • I'll read it to you.
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  • You can see it there.
  • 00:11:19.110 --> 00:11:20.150
  • It says: "Having then gifts
  • 00:11:20.150 --> 00:11:22.020
  • differing according to the grace
  • 00:11:22.020 --> 00:11:24.150
  • that is given to us, let us use
  • 00:11:24.150 --> 00:11:26.270
  • them."
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  • It's one thing to have gifts,
  • 00:11:27.160 --> 00:11:29.130
  • but it's another thing to use
  • 00:11:29.130 --> 00:11:30.100
  • them.
  • 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:31.170
  • And the Bible talks about
  • 00:11:31.170 --> 00:11:32.100
  • differing gifts, and I like that
  • 00:11:32.100 --> 00:11:34.180
  • too because you never get
  • 00:11:34.180 --> 00:11:36.240
  • influence somewhere just looking
  • 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.020
  • like, being like, sounding like
  • 00:11:38.020 --> 00:11:39.240
  • everybody else.
  • 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.250
  • I love that God gives us
  • 00:11:41.250 --> 00:11:42.280
  • differing gifts, all sorts.
  • 00:11:42.280 --> 00:11:45.100
  • Our church, Hillsong Church, we
  • 00:11:45.100 --> 00:11:47.070
  • didn't become influential,
  • 00:11:47.070 --> 00:11:48.280
  • whatever influence God's given
  • 00:11:48.280 --> 00:11:50.040
  • us, by being same, same, same,
  • 00:11:50.040 --> 00:11:51.250
  • same, same, just copying, doing,
  • 00:11:51.250 --> 00:11:54.000
  • and whatever.
  • 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.020
  • No, no, it's because we dared to
  • 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:56.190
  • be different at times.
  • 00:11:56.190 --> 00:11:58.030
  • And because we dared to be
  • 00:11:58.030 --> 00:11:59.110
  • different, it created a path
  • 00:11:59.110 --> 00:12:01.250
  • where other people looked and
  • 00:12:01.250 --> 00:12:03.020
  • they thought, "There is a
  • 00:12:03.020 --> 00:12:04.010
  • different way.
  • 00:12:04.010 --> 00:12:04.240
  • There is a better way.
  • 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:05.200
  • We can make a bigger difference.
  • 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.240
  • We can reach more people, in
  • 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.240
  • Jesus' name."
  • 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.010
  • Well, let's keep going on.
  • 00:12:11.010 --> 00:12:12.150
  • It talks about some of these
  • 00:12:12.150 --> 00:12:13.100
  • gifts.
  • 00:12:13.100 --> 00:12:14.000
  • "If prophecy, let us prophesy in
  • 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.100
  • proportion to our faith;" the
  • 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.080
  • Bible says, "or ministry, let us
  • 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.130
  • use it in our ministering; he
  • 00:12:20.130 --> 00:12:22.040
  • who teaches, in teaching; he who
  • 00:12:22.040 --> 00:12:24.280
  • exhorts," encourages, "in
  • 00:12:24.280 --> 00:12:26.230
  • exhortation; he who gives, with
  • 00:12:26.260 --> 00:12:29.260
  • liberality; he who leads, with
  • 00:12:29.260 --> 00:12:32.070
  • diligence; he who shows mercy,
  • 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:34.200
  • with cheerfulness."
  • 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.040
  • Well, these are all spiritual
  • 00:12:36.040 --> 00:12:37.200
  • gifts, and they're spiritual
  • 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.090
  • gifts that are never about
  • 00:12:39.090 --> 00:12:40.190
  • ourselves.
  • 00:12:40.190 --> 00:12:41.230
  • They're always about lifting the
  • 00:12:41.230 --> 00:12:43.200
  • lives of other people, raising
  • 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.140
  • the lives of other people,
  • 00:12:45.140 --> 00:12:47.000
  • seeing people go from the
  • 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.180
  • gutter, perhaps, "From the
  • 00:12:48.180 --> 00:12:50.150
  • gutter-most to the uttermost,"
  • 00:12:50.150 --> 00:12:52.150
  • my father used to say, from the
  • 00:12:52.150 --> 00:12:54.040
  • gutter-most to the uttermost.
  • 00:12:54.040 --> 00:12:55.260
  • They're all about lifting the
  • 00:12:55.260 --> 00:12:57.060
  • lives of people.
  • 00:12:57.060 --> 00:12:58.250
  • In verse 6, the gift mentioned
  • 00:12:58.250 --> 00:13:01.120
  • is prophecy.
  • 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:02.240
  • I know what you just think it
  • 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:03.180
  • sounds like.
  • 00:13:03.180 --> 00:13:04.230
  • You know, ultimately, New
  • 00:13:04.230 --> 00:13:06.140
  • Testament prophecy, before
  • 00:13:06.140 --> 00:13:08.100
  • anything else, it's just about
  • 00:13:08.100 --> 00:13:09.220
  • declaring Jesus, declaring the
  • 00:13:09.220 --> 00:13:11.250
  • mission and the message and the
  • 00:13:11.250 --> 00:13:13.280
  • ministry of Jesus.
  • 00:13:13.280 --> 00:13:16.000
  • Which means every believer
  • 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:16.270
  • everywhere, you can live your
  • 00:13:16.270 --> 00:13:18.210
  • life with that ability to
  • 00:13:18.210 --> 00:13:20.050
  • declare Jesus.
  • 00:13:20.050 --> 00:13:21.070
  • So, in a sense, we're all
  • 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:22.090
  • prophets.
  • 00:13:22.090 --> 00:13:23.250
  • But the gift of prophecy, that's
  • 00:13:23.250 --> 00:13:25.040
  • something different.
  • 00:13:25.040 --> 00:13:26.140
  • The gift of prophecy means you
  • 00:13:26.140 --> 00:13:27.230
  • have this gift.
  • 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:29.250
  • It's a God-given gift so it's
  • 00:13:29.250 --> 00:13:31.050
  • not gonna be a failure.
  • 00:13:31.050 --> 00:13:32.260
  • It's gonna be supernatural.
  • 00:13:32.260 --> 00:13:34.040
  • And that gift can put into
  • 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:35.040
  • people in a way that makes such
  • 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:36.250
  • a radical difference in their
  • 00:13:36.250 --> 00:13:38.090
  • life.
  • 00:13:38.090 --> 00:13:39.090
  • So, prophecy is primarily, in
  • 00:13:39.090 --> 00:13:41.270
  • the New Testament, just
  • 00:13:41.270 --> 00:13:43.150
  • declaring Jesus and declaring
  • 00:13:43.150 --> 00:13:45.070
  • God's mission.
  • 00:13:45.070 --> 00:13:46.210
  • But it also, in the New
  • 00:13:46.210 --> 00:13:48.140
  • Testament, in Acts and other
  • 00:13:48.140 --> 00:13:50.050
  • place, it's all about the
  • 00:13:50.050 --> 00:13:51.080
  • future.
  • 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:52.090
  • It's all about being a seer,
  • 00:13:52.090 --> 00:13:53.280
  • seeing what nobody else can see,
  • 00:13:53.280 --> 00:13:56.040
  • seeing what only God can see,
  • 00:13:56.040 --> 00:13:58.120
  • putting into people because of
  • 00:13:58.120 --> 00:13:59.180
  • what you can see.
  • 00:13:59.180 --> 00:14:00.220
  • It's futuristic, it looks into
  • 00:14:00.220 --> 00:14:02.200
  • the future.
  • 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:03.180
  • It builds people.
  • 00:14:03.180 --> 00:14:04.210
  • It lifts people.
  • 00:14:04.210 --> 00:14:05.240
  • It changes people.
  • 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.070
  • And I really do pray that we can
  • 00:14:07.070 --> 00:14:09.030
  • be people who see that operating
  • 00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:11.110
  • in the church because the
  • 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:12.170
  • prophetic gift, it exhorts, it
  • 00:14:12.170 --> 00:14:14.080
  • edifies, it comforts, but
  • 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:15.220
  • ultimately, it sees what only
  • 00:14:15.220 --> 00:14:17.090
  • God can see.
  • 00:14:17.090 --> 00:14:18.100
  • And what God sees is never
  • 00:14:18.100 --> 00:14:19.220
  • downwards.
  • 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:20.170
  • It's always upwards, in Jesus'
  • 00:14:20.170 --> 00:14:22.010
  • name.
  • 00:14:22.010 --> 00:14:22.180
  • It's not gonna drag you down.
  • 00:14:22.180 --> 00:14:23.180
  • It's only ever gonna take you
  • 00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:25.060
  • up.
  • 00:14:25.060 --> 00:14:26.030
  • And so, wow, wow, it's only ever
  • 00:14:28.210 --> 00:14:31.210
  • gonna take you up.
  • 00:14:31.210 --> 00:14:33.050
  • And it says there to, "Prophesy
  • 00:14:33.050 --> 00:14:35.180
  • in proportion to your faith."
  • 00:14:35.180 --> 00:14:38.080
  • Proportion, there's something
  • 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.190
  • about the way we are as human
  • 00:14:40.190 --> 00:14:42.080
  • beings that when you think
  • 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.150
  • about, "Well, you can prophesy,
  • 00:14:43.150 --> 00:14:44.170
  • but only in proportion to your
  • 00:14:44.170 --> 00:14:46.140
  • faith."
  • 00:14:46.140 --> 00:14:47.160
  • We always think of proportion,
  • 00:14:47.160 --> 00:14:48.290
  • well, and we somehow always
  • 00:14:48.290 --> 00:14:50.070
  • bring it downwards, and just in
  • 00:14:50.070 --> 00:14:52.050
  • proportion.
  • 00:14:52.050 --> 00:14:54.080
  • And of course, the Bible talks
  • 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:55.140
  • about faith and says, "In
  • 00:14:55.140 --> 00:14:56.210
  • proportion with your faith."
  • 00:14:56.210 --> 00:14:58.120
  • And I was reading a study Bible
  • 00:14:58.120 --> 00:14:59.290
  • that talked about faith and
  • 00:14:59.290 --> 00:15:01.210
  • said, "It's your personal faith,
  • 00:15:01.210 --> 00:15:03.000
  • but it's also your Christian
  • 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.140
  • faith."
  • 00:15:04.140 --> 00:15:05.210
  • In other words, it's the tenets
  • 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:06.200
  • of your faith, your Christian
  • 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:07.240
  • faith.
  • 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:08.140
  • It is the faith, as well as your
  • 00:15:08.140 --> 00:15:10.230
  • faith for healing and your faith
  • 00:15:10.230 --> 00:15:12.020
  • for God to move in your family,
  • 00:15:12.020 --> 00:15:13.270
  • and for your faith to see your
  • 00:15:13.270 --> 00:15:16.050
  • mum saved, or see your sister
  • 00:15:16.050 --> 00:15:18.140
  • healed, or to see God do a
  • 00:15:18.140 --> 00:15:20.040
  • miracle in your best friend, or
  • 00:15:20.040 --> 00:15:22.040
  • to turn around your business.
  • 00:15:22.040 --> 00:15:23.240
  • It's that kind of faith as well.
  • 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.100
  • And of course, when it comes to
  • 00:15:25.100 --> 00:15:26.090
  • our Christian faith, you keep
  • 00:15:26.090 --> 00:15:28.020
  • growing in the Word.
  • 00:15:28.020 --> 00:15:29.010
  • You keep being in the house of
  • 00:15:29.010 --> 00:15:30.010
  • God.
  • 00:15:30.010 --> 00:15:30.180
  • You sit under teaching.
  • 00:15:30.180 --> 00:15:31.190
  • If you're a young person, you
  • 00:15:31.190 --> 00:15:32.250
  • get into a radical discipleship
  • 00:15:32.250 --> 00:15:33.230
  • group.
  • 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:34.290
  • You understand where you are and
  • 00:15:34.290 --> 00:15:36.190
  • you get more of the Word.
  • 00:15:36.190 --> 00:15:38.020
  • And so, you begin to increase in
  • 00:15:38.020 --> 00:15:39.210
  • the faith, and the faith, it
  • 00:15:39.210 --> 00:15:42.210
  • gets deep down in your spirit,
  • 00:15:42.210 --> 00:15:44.050
  • so the proportion grows.
  • 00:15:44.050 --> 00:15:45.260
  • And so when the proportion
  • 00:15:45.260 --> 00:15:47.040
  • grows, guess what?
  • 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:48.210
  • Your gifting grows as well.
  • 00:15:48.210 --> 00:15:50.140
  • And if your gifting grows, then
  • 00:15:50.140 --> 00:15:52.000
  • the people you're reaching
  • 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:52.290
  • grows.
  • 00:15:52.290 --> 00:15:53.290
  • Suddenly, you're rising up into
  • 00:15:53.290 --> 00:15:56.010
  • a place of influence.
  • 00:15:56.010 --> 00:15:57.170
  • Maybe you didn't even realize
  • 00:15:57.170 --> 00:15:58.200
  • what was happening.
  • 00:15:58.200 --> 00:15:59.280
  • So, God can use all sorts of
  • 00:15:59.280 --> 00:16:01.210
  • gifts, and he can use them to
  • 00:16:01.210 --> 00:16:03.140
  • put into people.
  • 00:16:03.140 --> 00:16:04.220
  • But when you think proportion,
  • 00:16:04.220 --> 00:16:06.010
  • don't minimize it.
  • 00:16:06.010 --> 00:16:08.040
  • Don't make it small.
  • 00:16:08.040 --> 00:16:10.100
  • Decide, "I'm going to increase
  • 00:16:10.100 --> 00:16:11.260
  • in faith."
  • 00:16:11.260 --> 00:16:12.200
  • It only take grace, faith
  • 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.100
  • rather, the size of a grain of a
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  • mustard seed for God to work a
  • 00:16:16.130 --> 00:16:18.160
  • miracle.
  • 00:16:18.160 --> 00:16:19.190
  • So imagine if you start
  • 00:16:19.190 --> 00:16:20.210
  • increasing in faith, the power
  • 00:16:20.210 --> 00:16:22.230
  • of God's Word in your mouth as
  • 00:16:22.230 --> 00:16:25.110
  • you, in your everyday life, just
  • 00:16:25.110 --> 00:16:27.160
  • - Brian: He puts gifts in the
  • 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:33.160
  • heart of his people.
  • 00:16:33.160 --> 00:16:34.140
  • Ministry is for the people.
  • 00:16:34.140 --> 00:16:36.180
  • And so, hey, maybe one time, you
  • 00:16:36.180 --> 00:16:38.270
  • had a career, but now it's not a
  • 00:16:38.270 --> 00:16:41.140
  • - Brian: Then it goes on, verse
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  • 7, and talks about the gift of
  • 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.130
  • ministry: "The gift of ministry,
  • 00:16:49.130 --> 00:16:52.090
  • let us use it in our
  • 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:53.180
  • ministering;" the Bible says,
  • 00:16:53.180 --> 00:16:55.030
  • "he who teaches, in teaching."
  • 00:16:55.030 --> 00:16:57.030
  • Ministering, my ministry, my
  • 00:16:57.030 --> 00:16:59.240
  • ministry, "You need to give to
  • 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:01.230
  • my ministry."
  • 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:03.030
  • "I want you to be a partner in
  • 00:17:03.030 --> 00:17:04.090
  • my ministry."
  • 00:17:04.090 --> 00:17:05.220
  • "I'd like you to support my
  • 00:17:05.220 --> 00:17:07.060
  • ministry."
  • 00:17:07.060 --> 00:17:08.110
  • "I'd love you to join my
  • 00:17:08.110 --> 00:17:09.150
  • ministry."
  • 00:17:09.150 --> 00:17:10.180
  • "You need to get on the database
  • 00:17:10.180 --> 00:17:12.020
  • of my ministry."
  • 00:17:12.020 --> 00:17:13.120
  • "I need you to really be with me
  • 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:15.200
  • here in my ministry.
  • 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.040
  • We need you."
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  • Hey, I've got news for you
  • 00:17:18.110 --> 00:17:19.110
  • friend, it's not your ministry.
  • 00:17:19.110 --> 00:17:22.110
  • It's not your ministry.
  • 00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:28.100
  • If God gives you any gift, it's
  • 00:17:28.100 --> 00:17:29.190
  • for him and it's for people.
  • 00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:31.180
  • It's never just for you.
  • 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:32.270
  • You are thankful to God that
  • 00:17:32.270 --> 00:17:34.110
  • he's using you, that you're a
  • 00:17:34.110 --> 00:17:35.190
  • steward, that he graces you with
  • 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:37.030
  • the opportunity in ministry.
  • 00:17:37.030 --> 00:17:39.250
  • But let's always remember, it's
  • 00:17:39.250 --> 00:17:41.000
  • about others.
  • 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:41.290
  • Ephesians 4, again, it's talking
  • 00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:43.120
  • about various giftings and says,
  • 00:17:43.120 --> 00:17:45.110
  • "It's for the building of the
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  • people for the work of the,"
  • 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:48.000
  • what?
  • 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:48.240
  • "The ministry."
  • 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.030
  • So, if you're pretty proud of
  • 00:17:50.030 --> 00:17:51.190
  • your ministry, then we'd better
  • 00:17:51.190 --> 00:17:52.280
  • remember what the word means.
  • 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:54.160
  • It's "diakonos," that's the
  • 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:55.260
  • Greek word.
  • 00:17:55.260 --> 00:17:56.210
  • It means "serving."
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  • You still as excited about your
  • 00:17:58.100 --> 00:18:00.140
  • ministry now you know it's all
  • 00:18:00.140 --> 00:18:02.260
  • about serving?
  • 00:18:02.260 --> 00:18:04.180
  • Do you know, when I'm preaching,
  • 00:18:04.180 --> 00:18:06.070
  • my preaching, my--no, I'll tell
  • 00:18:06.070 --> 00:18:08.090
  • you something.
  • 00:18:08.090 --> 00:18:09.090
  • When I'm preaching, if I'm
  • 00:18:09.090 --> 00:18:10.140
  • thinking of me, if I'm thinking
  • 00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:12.090
  • about whether I'm doin' well or
  • 00:18:12.090 --> 00:18:13.200
  • not doing so well, if I'm
  • 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:14.260
  • thinking about my preaching,
  • 00:18:14.260 --> 00:18:16.190
  • hey, I'll tell you something
  • 00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:17.200
  • right now, I've lost the way.
  • 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.200
  • Because it's all about serving
  • 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:20.250
  • you, God's will in your life,
  • 00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:23.090
  • preaching to your Monday,
  • 00:18:23.090 --> 00:18:25.020
  • believing God to lift you,
  • 00:18:25.020 --> 00:18:27.030
  • lifting your faith, encouraging
  • 00:18:27.030 --> 00:18:28.230
  • you, helping you to see what God
  • 00:18:28.230 --> 00:18:30.240
  • can do, bringing the Word alive
  • 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:32.200
  • in you, teaching to you,
  • 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.010
  • preaching to you, sometimes
  • 00:18:34.010 --> 00:18:35.170
  • through declaring and
  • 00:18:35.170 --> 00:18:36.250
  • prophesying to you.
  • 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:38.020
  • That's what the gift is for.
  • 00:18:38.020 --> 00:18:39.200
  • And it's serving.
  • 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.050
  • What do you do for the church,
  • 00:18:41.050 --> 00:18:42.140
  • Harrison?
  • 00:18:42.140 --> 00:18:43.080
  • What do you do?
  • 00:18:43.080 --> 00:18:43.260
  • What's your job?
  • 00:18:43.260 --> 00:18:45.030
  • - Harrison: I look, I oversee
  • 00:18:45.030 --> 00:18:45.250
  • the young--
  • 00:18:45.250 --> 00:18:46.140
  • - Brian: Oh, so you're serving,
  • 00:18:46.140 --> 00:18:47.060
  • awesome, fantastic.
  • 00:18:47.060 --> 00:18:48.220
  • What do you do, Elisha?
  • 00:18:48.220 --> 00:18:50.020
  • What do you do for the church?
  • 00:18:50.020 --> 00:18:51.180
  • - Elisha: Church--
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  • - Brian: Oh, so you're serving,
  • 00:18:52.190 --> 00:18:53.120
  • that's incredible, you're
  • 00:18:53.120 --> 00:18:54.140
  • serving.
  • 00:18:54.140 --> 00:18:55.100
  • What do you do in church life,
  • 00:18:55.100 --> 00:18:56.010
  • Adam?
  • 00:18:56.010 --> 00:18:57.020
  • - Adam: I serve.
  • 00:18:57.020 --> 00:18:57.230
  • - Brian: Yes, you serve, you
  • 00:18:57.230 --> 00:18:59.010
  • serve, you serve, and that's why
  • 00:18:59.010 --> 00:19:01.170
  • you're in the front row, amen.
  • 00:19:01.260 --> 00:19:04.260
  • What do you do in church life,
  • 00:19:04.260 --> 00:19:06.000
  • Richard?
  • 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.090
  • - Richard: Yep, I serve.
  • 00:19:07.090 --> 00:19:08.100
  • - Brian: You serve, see, you're
  • 00:19:08.100 --> 00:19:09.090
  • gettin' idea now.
  • 00:19:09.090 --> 00:19:10.180
  • You're gettin' the idea.
  • 00:19:10.180 --> 00:19:11.290
  • It's all about serving other
  • 00:19:11.290 --> 00:19:13.250
  • people.
  • 00:19:13.250 --> 00:19:14.240
  • And God can do phenomenal things
  • 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.180
  • as we flow in whatever gift God
  • 00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:18.150
  • has given us.
  • 00:19:18.150 --> 00:19:19.080
  • But it's not just up here that
  • 00:19:19.080 --> 00:19:21.150
  • God gives people gifts.
  • 00:19:21.150 --> 00:19:23.130
  • He puts gifts in the heart of
  • 00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:24.210
  • his people.
  • 00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:25.150
  • Ministry is for the people.
  • 00:19:25.150 --> 00:19:28.000
  • And so, hey, maybe one time, you
  • 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.040
  • had a career, but now it's not a
  • 00:19:30.040 --> 00:19:32.170
  • career, it's a ministry.
  • 00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:34.190
  • There's people here in a
  • 00:19:34.190 --> 00:19:36.030
  • plumbing ministry.
  • 00:19:36.030 --> 00:19:37.260
  • There's people in an
  • 00:19:37.260 --> 00:19:39.050
  • electrician's ministry.
  • 00:19:39.050 --> 00:19:41.120
  • There are people here in a
  • 00:19:41.120 --> 00:19:42.190
  • carpet-laying ministry.
  • 00:19:42.190 --> 00:19:44.150
  • Why a ministry?
  • 00:19:44.150 --> 00:19:45.170
  • Because you're not just laying
  • 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:47.030
  • carpet.
  • 00:19:47.030 --> 00:19:48.030
  • You're living a life that
  • 00:19:48.030 --> 00:19:49.180
  • somehow, people will go, "What
  • 00:19:49.180 --> 00:19:50.240
  • is it about you?
  • 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.090
  • What's different about you?
  • 00:19:52.090 --> 00:19:53.150
  • What have you got going on in
  • 00:19:53.150 --> 00:19:54.140
  • your life?
  • 00:19:54.140 --> 00:19:55.090
  • What's actually happening here?"
  • 00:19:55.090 --> 00:19:56.230
  • That's what it is, it's
  • 00:19:56.230 --> 00:19:58.140
  • different.
  • 00:19:58.140 --> 00:19:59.020
  • Teaching, oh, man, I've gotta
  • 00:19:59.020 --> 00:20:01.200
  • tell ya, teaching, what an
  • 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:03.110
  • incredible opportunity.
  • 00:20:03.110 --> 00:20:04.160
  • I love the fact all our staff
  • 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.070
  • and lecturers and theologians
  • 00:20:06.190 --> 00:20:09.190
  • and educators at college,
  • 00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:11.240
  • they're all committed to going
  • 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.090
  • further.
  • 00:20:14.090 --> 00:20:15.180
  • Do you know, when someone goes
  • 00:20:15.180 --> 00:20:17.060
  • from maybe a certificate to a
  • 00:20:17.060 --> 00:20:19.120
  • diploma, then on to a degree,
  • 00:20:19.120 --> 00:20:21.110
  • and then to a master's, and
  • 00:20:21.110 --> 00:20:22.250
  • finally to a PhD, which takes a
  • 00:20:23.050 --> 00:20:26.050
  • thesis with so many words it
  • 00:20:26.050 --> 00:20:28.140
  • boggles my mind to think about
  • 00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:29.290
  • it, and they ride them hard, all
  • 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:32.110
  • because they wanna lift the
  • 00:20:32.110 --> 00:20:34.120
  • lives of people.
  • 00:20:34.120 --> 00:20:35.280
  • What a beautiful chance that is
  • 00:20:35.280 --> 00:20:37.140
  • to lift the lives of people.
  • 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.160
  • And do you know, there are
  • 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:41.180
  • preachers that teach, and
  • 00:20:41.180 --> 00:20:43.100
  • always, it comes from them going
  • 00:20:43.100 --> 00:20:45.010
  • down deep into the Word of God.
  • 00:20:45.010 --> 00:20:47.110
  • And then, out of that, lifting
  • 00:20:47.110 --> 00:20:49.040
  • you up because God wants you to
  • 00:20:49.040 --> 00:20:50.100
  • be a king.
  • 00:20:50.100 --> 00:20:51.060
  • He wants you to be a queen.
  • 00:20:51.060 --> 00:20:52.020
  • He doesn't want you just to be a
  • 00:20:52.020 --> 00:20:53.030
  • Christian.
  • 00:20:53.030 --> 00:20:53.180
  • He doesn't want you to just
  • 00:20:53.180 --> 00:20:54.150
  • occupy a seat on Sunday.
  • 00:20:54.150 --> 00:20:55.210
  • He doesn't want you to just to
  • 00:20:55.210 --> 00:20:57.000
  • come along with your Bible so
  • 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:58.150
  • other people can see you've got
  • 00:20:58.150 --> 00:20:59.290
  • your Bible.
  • 00:20:59.290 --> 00:21:01.000
  • No, no, no, he doesn't want you
  • 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:02.020
  • just to do that.
  • 00:21:02.020 --> 00:21:03.040
  • He wants so much for you than
  • 00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:05.070
  • just that.
  • 00:21:05.070 --> 00:21:06.250
  • I love the fact that there's all
  • 00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:08.250
  • sorts of gifts.
  • 00:21:08.250 --> 00:21:09.290
  • Some of them are natural gifts.
  • 00:21:09.290 --> 00:21:11.080
  • And I mean, the natural gifts
  • 00:21:11.080 --> 00:21:12.150
  • are some of the more powerful
  • 00:21:12.150 --> 00:21:13.190
  • ones when you realize they come
  • 00:21:13.190 --> 00:21:14.250
  • from God.
  • 00:21:14.250 --> 00:21:15.150
  • It's not for you.
  • 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:17.010
  • It is not for you.
  • 00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:19.000
  • It is not for me.
  • 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:20.150
  • It is for God and to his glory,
  • 00:21:20.150 --> 00:21:23.090
  • and it's all about raising
  • 00:21:23.090 --> 00:21:25.130
  • kings.
  • 00:21:25.130 --> 00:21:27.050
  • Well, there's the gift of
  • 00:21:27.050 --> 00:21:28.110
  • exhortation.
  • 00:21:28.110 --> 00:21:29.090
  • I love this one.
  • 00:21:29.090 --> 00:21:30.140
  • And The Message just calls it,
  • 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:32.120
  • "Encouragement," and so does the
  • 00:21:32.120 --> 00:21:33.270
  • New Living because that's what
  • 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:35.010
  • it is, it's encouragement.
  • 00:21:35.010 --> 00:21:36.190
  • There's something beautiful
  • 00:21:36.190 --> 00:21:37.180
  • about encouragement.
  • 00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:38.150
  • There's something beautiful
  • 00:21:38.150 --> 00:21:39.220
  • about what encouragement does.
  • 00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:42.070
  • You know, when you give
  • 00:21:42.070 --> 00:21:43.050
  • encouragement, when you put
  • 00:21:43.050 --> 00:21:44.060
  • encouragement into people, its
  • 00:21:44.060 --> 00:21:45.240
  • capacity to build has people
  • 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.160
  • believing they can defy the
  • 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.100
  • odds, has people believing that
  • 00:21:50.100 --> 00:21:52.090
  • they can carve out something
  • 00:21:52.090 --> 00:21:54.030
  • new, that they can fulfill their
  • 00:21:54.030 --> 00:21:55.170
  • potential.
  • 00:21:55.170 --> 00:21:56.140
  • There's been encouragers in my
  • 00:21:56.140 --> 00:21:57.170
  • life.
  • 00:21:57.170 --> 00:21:58.070
  • Difference between people who
  • 00:21:58.070 --> 00:21:59.070
  • flatter and people who encourage
  • 00:21:59.070 --> 00:22:00.200
  • you.
  • 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:01.140
  • But there's been encouragers in
  • 00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:03.040
  • my life, and they've just got so
  • 00:22:03.040 --> 00:22:04.110
  • deep down into me with
  • 00:22:04.110 --> 00:22:06.170
  • encouragement.
  • 00:22:06.170 --> 00:22:07.100
  • It's just amazing.
  • 00:22:07.100 --> 00:22:08.250
  • And it's different because it's
  • 00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:09.270
  • almost like an impartation.
  • 00:22:09.270 --> 00:22:12.010
  • I love people who have that gift
  • 00:22:12.010 --> 00:22:14.110
  • of encouragement.
  • 00:22:14.110 --> 00:22:15.140
  • Look at Romans 12, verse 8, it
  • 00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:16.290
  • goes on and says: "If your gift
  • 00:22:16.290 --> 00:22:18.220
  • is to encourage others, be
  • 00:22:18.220 --> 00:22:21.010
  • encouraging."
  • 00:22:21.010 --> 00:22:22.000
  • That's pretty simple, that's
  • 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.220
  • just pretty simple, "Be
  • 00:22:23.220 --> 00:22:24.270
  • encouraging."
  • 00:22:24.270 --> 00:22:26.140
  • You got a gift of encouragement,
  • 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:27.140
  • use it.
  • 00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:28.220
  • Use it or lose it.
  • 00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:30.260
  • Hey, use it.
  • 00:22:30.260 --> 00:22:32.290
  • It's got such power.
  • 00:22:32.290 --> 00:22:34.230
  • You'll have people believing
  • 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:35.180
  • they really can live the
  • 00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:37.060
  • adventure, they really can defy
  • 00:22:37.060 --> 00:22:39.000
  • the odds, they really can exceed
  • 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.210
  • their wildest dreams.
  • 00:22:41.210 --> 00:22:43.000
  • You'll have them believing that
  • 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:44.250
  • even when the world says you
  • 00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:46.010
  • can't, that God says you can.
  • 00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:47.260
  • That's what encouragement does.
  • 00:22:47.260 --> 00:22:49.060
  • It lifts people.
  • 00:22:49.060 --> 00:22:50.190
  • It builds people.
  • 00:22:50.190 --> 00:22:51.260
  • Thank God for some of the
  • 00:22:51.260 --> 00:22:53.060
  • encouragement that people have
  • 00:22:53.060 --> 00:22:54.210
  • put in my spirit when I needed
  • 00:22:54.210 --> 00:22:56.070
  • it the most.
  • 00:22:56.070 --> 00:22:58.110
  • I just thank God for them and I
  • 00:22:58.110 --> 00:23:00.110
  • thank God for the encouragement.
  • 00:23:01.010 --> 00:23:04.010
  • And then it talks about
  • 00:23:04.010 --> 00:23:04.240
  • liberality and generosity.
  • 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.260
  • And I can't even begin to tell
  • 00:23:06.260 --> 00:23:08.040
  • you, of course, when someone's
  • 00:23:08.040 --> 00:23:09.110
  • got a gift of liberality--all of
  • 00:23:09.110 --> 00:23:11.070
  • us are called to give.
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  • Often, it's a sacrifice.
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  • Often, it's a discipline.
  • 00:23:14.010 --> 00:23:15.130
  • Often, we count the cost but we
  • 00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:17.010
  • still give 'cause we love the
  • 00:23:17.010 --> 00:23:18.080
  • Lord and we wanna be involved in
  • 00:23:18.080 --> 00:23:20.070
  • his work.
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  • We wanna see--but some people
  • 00:23:20.280 --> 00:23:22.170
  • just got a gift of giving.
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  • It doesn't seem to be a labor
  • 00:23:24.100 --> 00:23:25.110
  • for them.
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  • They just love to give.
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  • They're looking for chances to
  • 00:23:27.070 --> 00:23:27.250
  • give.
  • 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:28.170
  • They've got a gift of
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  • liberality.
  • 00:23:29.130 --> 00:23:30.050
  • They've got a gift of giving.
  • 00:23:30.050 --> 00:23:31.190
  • And I'll tell you right now what
  • 00:23:31.190 --> 00:23:32.240
  • those people are.
  • 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.130
  • They are, amongst other things,
  • 00:23:34.130 --> 00:23:36.100
  • they are influence enablers.
  • 00:23:36.110 --> 00:23:39.110
  • They're opportunity providers.
  • 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:41.140
  • They're people who have this
  • 00:23:41.140 --> 00:23:43.180
  • incredible capacity.
  • 00:23:43.180 --> 00:23:45.240
  • I mean, they're like an elevator
  • 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.050
  • with this gift of giving.
  • 00:23:47.050 --> 00:23:49.060
  • They're like an elevator
  • 00:23:49.060 --> 00:23:50.090
  • operator.
  • 00:23:50.090 --> 00:23:51.140
  • It's like giving pushes the
  • 00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:52.210
  • button that takes you right to
  • 00:23:52.210 --> 00:23:54.020
  • the top floor, right to where
  • 00:23:54.020 --> 00:23:55.130
  • God called you to be.
  • 00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:57.080
  • And sometimes in life, people
  • 00:23:57.080 --> 00:23:58.170
  • who are under the stress of
  • 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.020
  • finance, ministries under the
  • 00:24:00.020 --> 00:24:01.120
  • stress of finance, don't know
  • 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:02.250
  • where their next penny's coming
  • 00:24:02.250 --> 00:24:03.250
  • from, and how incredible it is
  • 00:24:03.250 --> 00:24:05.240
  • when somebody with a gift of
  • 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.150
  • giving just sees a need and they
  • 00:24:07.150 --> 00:24:09.100
  • decide to fill it.
  • 00:24:09.100 --> 00:24:10.150
  • It's a gift, and it's a gift
  • 00:24:10.150 --> 00:24:11.220
  • that's from God, and it's a gift
  • 00:24:11.220 --> 00:24:13.250
  • that imparts into other people,
  • 00:24:13.250 --> 00:24:15.200
  • and it's a gift that makes an
  • 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:17.070
  • incredible difference, and
  • 00:24:17.070 --> 00:24:19.020
  • incredible difference in the
  • 00:24:19.020 --> 00:24:20.210
  • - Brian: God wants to lift your
  • 00:24:25.190 --> 00:24:26.200
  • life up so you can have an
  • 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:28.030
  • impact, and your life is all
  • 00:24:28.030 --> 00:24:29.240
  • about other people's life up.
  • 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:32.030
  • He can take you from the ash
  • 00:24:32.030 --> 00:24:33.180
  • heap and he can cause you to sit
  • 00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:35.070
  • with princes, with the princes
  • 00:24:35.070 --> 00:24:36.190
  • of the people.
  • 00:24:36.190 --> 00:24:37.200
  • He can do more in your life than
  • 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.250
  • - Brian: I'll tell you right
  • 00:24:44.070 --> 00:24:45.020
  • now, influence is a gospel
  • 00:24:45.020 --> 00:24:47.140
  • spreader.
  • 00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:48.290
  • Encouragement is a gospel
  • 00:24:48.290 --> 00:24:50.140
  • spreader.
  • 00:24:50.140 --> 00:24:51.180
  • Encouragement is a door opener.
  • 00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:54.130
  • Encouragement is such a
  • 00:24:54.130 --> 00:24:56.000
  • beautiful and a powerful thing
  • 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:57.210
  • and brings such life into
  • 00:24:57.210 --> 00:24:59.250
  • people's world.
  • 00:24:59.250 --> 00:25:00.260
  • It talks about a gift of
  • 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:02.000
  • leadership.
  • 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:02.240
  • We talk a lot about a gift of
  • 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:03.290
  • leadership.
  • 00:25:03.290 --> 00:25:04.240
  • And finally, it talks about a
  • 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.030
  • gift of mercy.
  • 00:25:06.030 --> 00:25:07.140
  • Oh, I love that, the idea that
  • 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:09.010
  • mercy is a gift, that mercy,
  • 00:25:09.010 --> 00:25:11.040
  • caring for people, loving
  • 00:25:11.040 --> 00:25:12.240
  • people, wanting to lift people
  • 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.220
  • up--when you've got a mercy
  • 00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:16.110
  • gift, you truly do have the same
  • 00:25:16.110 --> 00:25:17.280
  • heart that God has.
  • 00:25:17.280 --> 00:25:19.290
  • Listen to Psalm 113, Psalm 113,
  • 00:25:20.080 --> 00:25:23.080
  • verse 7, it says: "He raises the
  • 00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:26.230
  • poor out of the dust, and lifts
  • 00:25:26.230 --> 00:25:28.240
  • the needy out of the ash heap,
  • 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.010
  • that he may seat him with
  • 00:25:31.010 --> 00:25:32.160
  • princes--with the princes of his
  • 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.050
  • people."
  • 00:25:34.050 --> 00:25:35.060
  • It says, "That he may seat him
  • 00:25:35.060 --> 00:25:37.110
  • with," what?
  • 00:25:37.110 --> 00:25:38.210
  • "Princes--with the princes of
  • 00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:40.140
  • his people."
  • 00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:41.240
  • Taking people from the ash heap,
  • 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.210
  • setting them with princes.
  • 00:25:44.210 --> 00:25:46.050
  • God is all about causing us to
  • 00:25:46.050 --> 00:25:48.040
  • be princes, kings, princesses,
  • 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:50.230
  • queens.
  • 00:25:50.230 --> 00:25:51.280
  • He's all about lifting us up.
  • 00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:53.220
  • And he wants to lift you up so,
  • 00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:55.030
  • in turn, your life can be an
  • 00:25:55.030 --> 00:25:57.040
  • influence over a whole lot more
  • 00:25:57.040 --> 00:25:59.030
  • people.
  • 00:25:59.030 --> 00:26:00.140
  • This Christian life, it is an
  • 00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:01.230
  • adventure.
  • 00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:02.220
  • And anyone who told you it's
  • 00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:04.000
  • boring, they don't know what
  • 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.060
  • they're talking about.
  • 00:26:05.060 --> 00:26:06.010
  • Anyone who's in true faith,
  • 00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:06.260
  • anyone who's in true
  • 00:26:06.260 --> 00:26:08.070
  • relationship with--anyone on the
  • 00:26:08.070 --> 00:26:09.280
  • journey of serving God, being on
  • 00:26:09.280 --> 00:26:11.230
  • this adventure of the will of
  • 00:26:11.230 --> 00:26:13.110
  • God, what an awesome life it is.
  • 00:26:13.110 --> 00:26:15.190
  • I'll tell you right now, serving
  • 00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:17.120
  • God, there is no counterfeit.
  • 00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:19.100
  • There is nothing like it.
  • 00:26:19.100 --> 00:26:20.210
  • And God wants to lift your life
  • 00:26:20.210 --> 00:26:22.060
  • up so you can have an impact,
  • 00:26:22.060 --> 00:26:24.020
  • and your life is all about
  • 00:26:24.020 --> 00:26:25.250
  • lifting other people's life up.
  • 00:26:25.250 --> 00:26:27.210
  • He can take you from the ash
  • 00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:29.120
  • heap and he can cause you to sit
  • 00:26:29.120 --> 00:26:31.050
  • with princes, with the princes
  • 00:26:31.050 --> 00:26:32.180
  • of the people.
  • 00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:33.130
  • He can do more in your life than
  • 00:26:33.130 --> 00:26:35.150
  • you ever imagined.
  • 00:26:35.150 --> 00:26:36.200
  • Do you wanna be a king?
  • 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:37.290
  • [groaning]
  • 00:26:37.290 --> 00:26:39.160
  • Do you wanna be a queen?
  • 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:40.110
  • Do you actually want your life
  • 00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:41.280
  • to count so much further than
  • 00:26:41.280 --> 00:26:44.150
  • yourself?
  • 00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:45.100
  • Do you want to?
  • 00:26:45.100 --> 00:26:47.010
  • Whatever gifts you've got,
  • 00:26:47.010 --> 00:26:48.200
  • decide you're gonna do the same
  • 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.070
  • thing.
  • 00:26:50.070 --> 00:26:51.080
  • You're gonna thank God.
  • 00:26:51.080 --> 00:26:52.150
  • You're gonna give glory to God.
  • 00:26:52.150 --> 00:26:54.030
  • And they're all about people.
  • 00:26:55.060 --> 00:26:58.060
  • And that's how you can one day,
  • 00:26:58.060 --> 00:27:01.050
  • yourself, have a team, a staff,
  • 00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:03.210
  • where you don't even have to
  • 00:27:03.210 --> 00:27:04.220
  • look for hiring people from the
  • 00:27:04.220 --> 00:27:06.020
  • outside 'cause there's so many
  • 00:27:06.020 --> 00:27:08.010
  • people wanting to serve you who
  • 00:27:08.010 --> 00:27:10.000
  • you invested into, who you cared
  • 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.240
  • about, who you turned whatever
  • 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.240
  • gift you have back to them,
  • 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.030
  • amen.
  • 00:27:16.030 --> 00:27:17.270
  • I'm believing that we can
  • 00:27:17.270 --> 00:27:18.260
  • continue on the thought of kings
  • 00:27:18.260 --> 00:27:21.200
  • and queens coming from our body,
  • 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.270
  • in Jesus' name.
  • 00:27:23.270 --> 00:27:25.070
  • I love it.
  • 00:27:25.070 --> 00:27:26.090
  • Do you love it?
  • 00:27:26.090 --> 00:27:27.120
  • Amen.
  • 00:27:27.120 --> 00:27:28.100
  • What a beautiful thing to pray
  • 00:27:28.100 --> 00:27:29.080
  • always in church, "Jesus, have
  • 00:27:29.080 --> 00:27:30.280
  • your way."
  • 00:27:30.280 --> 00:27:31.220
  • Do you know, if every person in
  • 00:27:31.220 --> 00:27:33.110
  • this room and in every other
  • 00:27:33.110 --> 00:27:35.010
  • location, if every person here
  • 00:27:35.060 --> 00:27:38.060
  • would literally do that,
  • 00:27:38.060 --> 00:27:40.050
  • declare, "Jesus, I want you to
  • 00:27:40.050 --> 00:27:42.060
  • have your way," lives would be
  • 00:27:42.110 --> 00:27:45.110
  • transformed.
  • 00:27:45.110 --> 00:27:46.260
  • Lives would be revolutionized.
  • 00:27:46.260 --> 00:27:49.080
  • Lives would never be the same
  • 00:27:49.080 --> 00:27:51.020
  • again.
  • 00:27:51.020 --> 00:27:52.190
  • And that's what only Jesus can
  • 00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:54.270
  • do.
  • 00:27:54.270 --> 00:27:56.080
  • He changes lives.
  • 00:27:56.080 --> 00:27:58.030
  • He gives us a brand-new
  • 00:27:58.030 --> 00:27:59.050
  • beginning.
  • 00:27:59.050 --> 00:28:00.150
  • He gives us a brand-new start.
  • 00:28:00.150 --> 00:28:02.210
  • He literally washes the slate
  • 00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:05.080
  • clean.
  • 00:28:05.080 --> 00:28:06.170
  • "As far as the east is from the
  • 00:28:06.170 --> 00:28:08.100
  • west, so far does God remove our
  • 00:28:09.010 --> 00:28:12.010
  • sin from us."
  • 00:28:12.010 --> 00:28:13.250
  • "He'll remember your sin," the
  • 00:28:13.250 --> 00:28:15.150
  • Bible says, "no more."
  • 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.240
  • Sometimes we have far too good a
  • 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.110
  • memory.
  • 00:28:20.110 --> 00:28:21.210
  • And God has got an incredible
  • 00:28:21.210 --> 00:28:24.150
  • forgettery.
  • 00:28:24.220 --> 00:28:27.220
  • Sometimes we need to believe for
  • 00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:29.230
  • God's forgettery in our lives
  • 00:28:29.230 --> 00:28:32.020
  • 'cause we remember things God
  • 00:28:32.020 --> 00:28:33.170
  • has buried.
  • 00:28:33.170 --> 00:28:35.200
  • And I wanna talk to you right
  • 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.190
  • now about Jesus.
  • 00:28:36.190 --> 00:28:38.140
  • I wanna talk to you about how
  • 00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:39.150
  • much he loves you.
  • 00:28:39.150 --> 00:28:41.000
  • I wanna ask you if you've ever
  • 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.050
  • made a conscious decision to
  • 00:28:42.050 --> 00:28:44.040
  • surrender ownership of your life
  • 00:28:44.040 --> 00:28:45.270
  • to the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • 00:28:45.270 --> 00:28:48.070
  • Have you ever encountered him in
  • 00:28:48.070 --> 00:28:49.160
  • a personal way, really
  • 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.120
  • encountered him?
  • 00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:52.200
  • You see, he loves you.
  • 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.080
  • He is for you.
  • 00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:55.270
  • He is on your side.
  • 00:28:55.270 --> 00:28:57.250
  • He said, "I'll never leave you
  • 00:28:57.250 --> 00:28:59.000
  • nor forsake you."
  • 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.130
  • The Bible says, "Anyone who
  • 00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:01.170
  • calls on his name will be
  • 00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:03.060
  • saved."
  • 00:29:03.060 --> 00:29:04.030
  • This is not an exclusive
  • 00:29:04.030 --> 00:29:05.060
  • message.
  • 00:29:05.060 --> 00:29:06.030
  • It's a for-everyone message.
  • 00:29:06.030 --> 00:29:08.020
  • You talk about diversity.
  • 00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:10.190
  • There is no more diversity, that
  • 00:29:10.190 --> 00:29:13.090
  • those who are a part of the
  • 00:29:13.090 --> 00:29:15.070
  • house of God, the kingdom of God
  • 00:29:15.070 --> 00:29:17.230
  • around the world, when people
  • 00:29:17.230 --> 00:29:19.140
  • truly take Jesus at his Word,
  • 00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.010
  • because it's for anyone and
  • 00:29:22.010 --> 00:29:23.200
  • everyone, "Whoever will to the
  • 00:29:23.250 --> 00:29:26.250
  • Lord may come," no matter
  • 00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:28.140
  • status, no matter class, no
  • 00:29:28.140 --> 00:29:30.160
  • matter color, no matter any
  • 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.200
  • other divide.
  • 00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:33.240
  • Jesus is all about breaking
  • 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.130
  • through the divides and just
  • 00:29:35.130 --> 00:29:37.140
  • reaching people.
  • 00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:38.200
  • I believe tonight you can make a
  • 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:39.290
  • choice for Jesus Christ.
  • 00:29:39.290 --> 00:29:41.170
  • I believe tonight can be a
  • 00:29:41.170 --> 00:29:42.250
  • life-defining night.
  • 00:29:42.250 --> 00:29:44.130
  • I believe tonight can be a night
  • 00:29:44.130 --> 00:29:45.180
  • where, literally, you're never
  • 00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:46.280
  • the same again, that you can
  • 00:29:46.280 --> 00:29:48.210
  • suddenly find that God raises
  • 00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:50.130
  • your life up that he brings you
  • 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:52.080
  • from the ash heap and he sits
  • 00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:54.060
  • you with princes.
  • 00:29:54.060 --> 00:29:55.110
  • That's what God wants to do.
  • 00:29:55.110 --> 00:29:56.190
  • He wants to take you from the
  • 00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:57.290
  • ash heap, whatever that means,
  • 00:29:57.290 --> 00:30:00.100
  • the emptiness, the sense of
  • 00:30:00.100 --> 00:30:01.180
  • failure, the sense of futility,
  • 00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:04.080
  • the condemnation, the regret,
  • 00:30:04.110 --> 00:30:07.110
  • the guilt, whatever it is, the
  • 00:30:07.110 --> 00:30:09.230
  • sense that, "Well, I've got it
  • 00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:11.040
  • all, but really it's doing
  • 00:30:11.040 --> 00:30:12.030
  • nothing for me."
  • 00:30:12.030 --> 00:30:13.170
  • Whatever it is, God has got
  • 00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:15.040
  • something so much better for
  • 00:30:15.040 --> 00:30:16.100
  • you.
  • 00:30:16.100 --> 00:30:16.260
  • Would you give your life to
  • 00:30:16.260 --> 00:30:17.150
  • Jesus?
  • 00:30:17.150 --> 00:30:18.000
  • The Bible says, "If you ask him
  • 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.070
  • to come into your life, he'll
  • 00:30:19.070 --> 00:30:20.080
  • come and he'll live in you," and
  • 00:30:20.080 --> 00:30:21.170
  • it's a promise.
  • 00:30:21.170 --> 00:30:22.170
  • I believe tonight to be a
  • 00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:23.190
  • life-changing night, in Jesus'
  • 00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:26.020
  • name.
  • 00:30:26.020 --> 00:30:27.030
  • God is so much stronger.
  • 00:30:27.030 --> 00:30:28.170
  • He's so much greater.
  • 00:30:28.170 --> 00:30:30.130
  • He's got so much more for you.
  • 00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:31.180
  • Why would you waste your life
  • 00:30:31.180 --> 00:30:32.180
  • away?
  • 00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:33.250
  • Like Solomon talked about in the
  • 00:30:33.250 --> 00:30:35.180
  • Old Testament, he just was
  • 00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:36.230
  • wasting his life on empty
  • 00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:38.060
  • living, and he kept coming back.
  • 00:30:38.060 --> 00:30:39.280
  • It's just all frustration.
  • 00:30:39.280 --> 00:30:41.110
  • It's just all futility.
  • 00:30:41.110 --> 00:30:43.120
  • Jesus wants to give you a whole
  • 00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:44.210
  • new foundation.
  • 00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:46.090
  • I just believe it's the night
  • 00:30:46.090 --> 00:30:47.260
  • for people.
  • 00:30:47.260 --> 00:30:48.130
  • Maybe at some point, you prayed
  • 00:30:48.130 --> 00:30:49.280
  • a prayer, you opened your heart,
  • 00:30:49.280 --> 00:30:51.230
  • and you made a choice.
  • 00:30:51.230 --> 00:30:53.060
  • Maybe at some point you did
  • 00:30:53.060 --> 00:30:54.050
  • that, but you know you're not in
  • 00:30:54.050 --> 00:30:55.090
  • a good place.
  • 00:30:55.090 --> 00:30:56.200
  • God's still for you.
  • 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.010
  • He's not moved.
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  • You're saved maybe, but you're
  • 00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:02.070
  • not living out of a relationship
  • 00:31:02.070 --> 00:31:03.130
  • with Jesus.
  • 00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:05.050
  • And because of that, you're not
  • 00:31:05.050 --> 00:31:06.040
  • living the life he intends for
  • 00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:07.280
  • you to live.
  • 00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:09.160
  • Where's the joy gone?
  • 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.160
  • Where's the joy gone?
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  • The joy disappears when you
  • 00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:15.060
  • start losing touch with your
  • 00:31:15.060 --> 00:31:18.030
  • faith.
  • 00:31:18.030 --> 00:31:19.090
  • What a perfect time to make your
  • 00:31:19.090 --> 00:31:21.010
  • peace with God, to get right
  • 00:31:21.010 --> 00:31:22.090
  • with him, to turn from
  • 00:31:22.090 --> 00:31:23.190
  • backsliding, to have a brand-new
  • 00:31:23.190 --> 00:31:25.060
  • beginning across the church.
  • 00:31:25.060 --> 00:31:27.040
  • Would you just close your eyes
  • 00:31:27.040 --> 00:31:28.020
  • for a moment?
  • 00:31:28.020 --> 00:31:29.010
  • Would you think about where you
  • 00:31:29.010 --> 00:31:30.130
  • guys are at spiritually?
  • 00:31:30.130 --> 00:31:31.230
  • Will you think about what's
  • 00:31:31.230 --> 00:31:32.160
  • going on in your life?
  • 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.240
  • Will you make this a night, a
  • 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.010
  • life-defining night, a night
  • 00:31:35.010 --> 00:31:36.060
  • when you come back to living
  • 00:31:36.060 --> 00:31:37.160
  • from that position of faith, you
  • 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:39.130
  • do turn from your backsliding,
  • 00:31:39.130 --> 00:31:41.000
  • you do decide tonight you're
  • 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.160
  • coming back to Jesus at the
  • 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:43.260
  • center of it all?
  • 00:31:43.260 --> 00:31:45.010
  • Or if you've never known Jesus,
  • 00:31:45.010 --> 00:31:46.120
  • a friend brought you along.
  • 00:31:46.120 --> 00:31:47.240
  • Maybe you came by yourself.
  • 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.020
  • Maybe you've been coming for a
  • 00:31:49.020 --> 00:31:50.110
  • little while, but you still
  • 00:31:50.110 --> 00:31:51.120
  • haven't crossed that line.
  • 00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:53.010
  • Well, tonight is the night of
  • 00:31:53.010 --> 00:31:54.140
  • salvation.
  • 00:31:54.140 --> 00:31:55.200
  • And I'm gonna pray a prayer with
  • 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.170
  • everybody.
  • 00:31:56.170 --> 00:31:57.090
  • We're gonna ask Jesus to fill
  • 00:31:57.090 --> 00:31:58.210
  • people's hearts.
  • 00:31:58.210 --> 00:31:59.160
  • And I believe for many people
  • 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.000
  • here, many people, this is your
  • 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.140
  • night.
  • 00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:04.040
  • So, I'll count to three, and
  • 00:32:04.040 --> 00:32:04.290
  • when I do, on three, every
  • 00:32:04.290 --> 00:32:06.080
  • single person everywhere who
  • 00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:08.170
  • says, "Brian, please include me
  • 00:32:08.170 --> 00:32:10.170
  • in that prayer," I wanna pray
  • 00:32:10.170 --> 00:32:11.260
  • for you.
  • 00:32:11.260 --> 00:32:12.240
  • I wanna believe for God's best
  • 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:13.250
  • for you.
  • 00:32:13.250 --> 00:32:14.220
  • I believe tonight's your night.
  • 00:32:14.220 --> 00:32:16.010
  • So, I'll count to three.
  • 00:32:16.010 --> 00:32:17.030
  • Every person who says, "Brian,
  • 00:32:17.030 --> 00:32:18.150
  • please include me in that
  • 00:32:18.150 --> 00:32:19.160
  • prayer," you raise your hand.
  • 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:20.270
  • I'm telling you, you won't be
  • 00:32:20.270 --> 00:32:21.280
  • the only hand.
  • 00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:23.060
  • There'll be many, many hands all
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  • the way across our church
  • 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.290
  • because I believe tonight, God
  • 00:32:25.290 --> 00:32:27.100
  • wants to touch people.
  • 00:32:27.100 --> 00:32:28.180
  • So, eyes closed.
  • 00:32:28.180 --> 00:32:30.040
  • Think about where you're at
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  • spiritually.
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  • I'll count to three.
  • 00:32:32.070 --> 00:32:33.050
  • On three, you raise your hand
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  • with many others, saying, "I
  • 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:36.170
  • believe for this to be a night
  • 00:32:36.170 --> 00:32:38.090
  • of transformation in my life."
  • 00:32:38.090 --> 00:32:41.010
  • So are you ready?
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  • On three, here we go.
  • 00:32:41.250 --> 00:32:43.060
  • One, two, three, lift them up
  • 00:32:43.060 --> 00:32:46.050
  • right now.
  • 00:32:46.050 --> 00:32:47.130
  • Lift them high.
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  • This is your night through the
  • 00:32:48.050 --> 00:32:49.030
  • screen there, other locations.
  • 00:32:49.030 --> 00:32:51.030
  • You lift your hands up as well.
  • 00:32:51.030 --> 00:32:52.230
  • I get amazed that often, there's
  • 00:32:52.230 --> 00:32:54.020
  • more response through the
  • 00:32:54.020 --> 00:32:55.050
  • screens even than in the room,
  • 00:32:55.050 --> 00:32:56.230
  • which is miraculous.
  • 00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:58.110
  • It's beautiful because God is
  • 00:32:58.110 --> 00:33:00.060
  • not just in one place at one
  • 00:33:00.060 --> 00:33:01.090
  • time.
  • 00:33:01.090 --> 00:33:02.170
  • He's omniscient, which means
  • 00:33:02.170 --> 00:33:05.030
  • he's all knowing, and he's
  • 00:33:05.030 --> 00:33:06.090
  • omnipresent, which means he's
  • 00:33:06.090 --> 00:33:07.180
  • everywhere, in Jesus' name.
  • 00:33:07.180 --> 00:33:09.200
  • Give them a big congratulations.
  • 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.020
  • Come on, let's thank God.
  • 00:33:11.020 --> 00:33:13.060
  • Let's thank God for every one of
  • 00:33:13.060 --> 00:33:15.190
  • them.
  • 00:33:15.190 --> 00:33:17.260
  • And on this Friday-night church,
  • 00:33:17.260 --> 00:33:20.040
  • let's pray this prayer in faith
  • 00:33:20.040 --> 00:33:21.180
  • together.
  • 00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:22.160
  • Everybody pray these words:
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  • "Dear Jesus, this is the moment
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  • I surrender ownership of my life
  • 00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:30.100
  • to the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • 00:33:30.100 --> 00:33:33.090
  • Because of you, Jesus, from this
  • 00:33:33.090 --> 00:33:36.090
  • moment, I'm a child of God, a
  • 00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:40.230
  • new creation, a follower of
  • 00:33:40.230 --> 00:33:43.140
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 00:33:43.140 --> 00:33:45.290
  • Thank you for your love and
  • 00:33:45.290 --> 00:33:46.250
  • grace.
  • 00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:48.150
  • Thank you for your forgiveness
  • 00:33:48.150 --> 00:33:49.140
  • and mercy.
  • 00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:51.210
  • I am a believer.
  • 00:33:51.210 --> 00:33:53.060
  • Jesus is alive in me, amen,
  • 00:33:54.190 --> 00:33:57.190
  • - George Dansey: And the only
  • 00:34:05.190 --> 00:34:06.160
  • thing I knew was sport, and so,
  • 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.240
  • I think now, looking back, if I
  • 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.290
  • actually pursued a sporting
  • 00:34:09.290 --> 00:34:11.190
  • career, I probably wouldn't be
  • 00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:12.210
  • in the position I am now in
  • 00:34:12.210 --> 00:34:13.220
  • church and that
  • 00:34:13.220 --> 00:34:14.290
  • because I realized I'm actually
  • 00:34:14.290 --> 00:34:16.100
  • here to help people, and that's
  • 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:17.100
  • the gift that God's given me, to
  • 00:34:17.100 --> 00:34:18.200
  • encourage and to be around
  • 00:34:18.200 --> 00:34:19.260
  • - Brian: Well, here we are.
  • 00:34:23.260 --> 00:34:25.030
  • We've got a couch interview
  • 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:26.070
  • again.
  • 00:34:26.070 --> 00:34:27.030
  • I love doing this 'cause I get
  • 00:34:27.030 --> 00:34:28.070
  • these awesome guys on the couch
  • 00:34:28.070 --> 00:34:30.090
  • and all the gold comes out.
  • 00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:32.110
  • And apart from that, we have a
  • 00:34:32.110 --> 00:34:33.080
  • lot of fun.
  • 00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:34.000
  • I just spoke about "Raising
  • 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.230
  • Kings."
  • 00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:36.130
  • I'm passionate about raising
  • 00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:37.210
  • people up into all that God had
  • 00:34:37.210 --> 00:34:39.220
  • called them to be.
  • 00:34:39.220 --> 00:34:40.200
  • And I believe in the kingdom of
  • 00:34:40.200 --> 00:34:41.170
  • God, we need people who decide
  • 00:34:41.170 --> 00:34:43.180
  • they wanna live lives of
  • 00:34:43.180 --> 00:34:44.170
  • influence so they can make a
  • 00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:46.030
  • difference, so they can reach
  • 00:34:46.030 --> 00:34:47.080
  • more people.
  • 00:34:47.080 --> 00:34:48.000
  • So, I guess that's the premise
  • 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.090
  • of our conversation.
  • 00:34:49.090 --> 00:34:50.090
  • Well, this George, George
  • 00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:51.180
  • Dansey.
  • 00:34:51.180 --> 00:34:52.250
  • I know a lot of you guys where
  • 00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:54.070
  • you live, you don't understand
  • 00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:55.100
  • rugby, but you do maybe
  • 00:34:55.100 --> 00:34:56.120
  • understand professional sport.
  • 00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:58.040
  • And so George was a rugby player
  • 00:34:58.040 --> 00:35:00.290
  • when he was younger, and now
  • 00:35:00.290 --> 00:35:02.250
  • he's a chaplain, a sports
  • 00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:04.150
  • chaplain who's a chaplain of one
  • 00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:06.150
  • particular club.
  • 00:35:06.150 --> 00:35:07.280
  • But in fact, your influence
  • 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.290
  • amongst sports people is so much
  • 00:35:09.290 --> 00:35:11.240
  • wider than that.
  • 00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:13.270
  • So, I'm looking forward because
  • 00:35:13.270 --> 00:35:15.020
  • you really are living your life
  • 00:35:15.020 --> 00:35:16.170
  • in an influential way.
  • 00:35:16.170 --> 00:35:17.230
  • And then Dave Ware, some of you
  • 00:35:17.230 --> 00:35:19.130
  • may recognize, is part of our
  • 00:35:19.130 --> 00:35:21.030
  • worship team, Hillsong Worship.
  • 00:35:21.030 --> 00:35:23.090
  • Such a incredible father,
  • 00:35:23.090 --> 00:35:25.250
  • husband, believer, and part of
  • 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.280
  • our team.
  • 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.040
  • He's greatly loved here, and I
  • 00:35:30.040 --> 00:35:31.230
  • actually love it when you lead
  • 00:35:31.230 --> 00:35:33.110
  • worship because you become a
  • 00:35:33.110 --> 00:35:35.060
  • real statesman in it.
  • 00:35:35.060 --> 00:35:36.120
  • It's cool, so here we go.
  • 00:35:36.120 --> 00:35:38.150
  • We'll have a conversation.
  • 00:35:38.150 --> 00:35:39.230
  • So, the conversation is kings
  • 00:35:39.230 --> 00:35:41.090
  • and queens, and we're really
  • 00:35:41.090 --> 00:35:42.180
  • talking about influence and
  • 00:35:42.180 --> 00:35:43.230
  • influencers, and how we can look
  • 00:35:43.230 --> 00:35:45.210
  • to maybe reach influencers and
  • 00:35:45.210 --> 00:35:47.260
  • touch influencers, but how
  • 00:35:47.260 --> 00:35:49.200
  • amazing it is when we can raise
  • 00:35:49.200 --> 00:35:51.030
  • up influencers.
  • 00:35:51.030 --> 00:35:52.160
  • And so, I talked about that
  • 00:35:52.160 --> 00:35:55.000
  • being part of my passion from
  • 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.020
  • the day we started the church.
  • 00:35:57.020 --> 00:35:58.250
  • And just the fact that, you
  • 00:35:58.250 --> 00:36:01.020
  • know, over all of these years, I
  • 00:36:01.020 --> 00:36:03.160
  • started with a businessman in
  • 00:36:03.160 --> 00:36:05.130
  • our church and he was such a
  • 00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:06.270
  • blessing to us and to me.
  • 00:36:06.270 --> 00:36:08.290
  • I prayed, "God, give me more
  • 00:36:08.290 --> 00:36:11.010
  • like him."
  • 00:36:11.010 --> 00:36:12.070
  • And I felt like the Holy Spirit
  • 00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:13.150
  • said, "You've gotta raise them
  • 00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:14.140
  • up.
  • 00:36:14.140 --> 00:36:15.090
  • They're not just gonna walk
  • 00:36:15.090 --> 00:36:16.010
  • through the door."
  • 00:36:16.010 --> 00:36:16.240
  • And so, we've always lived with
  • 00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:17.250
  • that kinda spirit.
  • 00:36:17.250 --> 00:36:19.110
  • When you guys came into our
  • 00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:20.090
  • church, you came at different
  • 00:36:20.090 --> 00:36:21.110
  • times.
  • 00:36:21.110 --> 00:36:22.060
  • Did you get a sense of that,
  • 00:36:22.060 --> 00:36:25.010
  • that the spirit of the place was
  • 00:36:25.010 --> 00:36:26.030
  • all about helping you to be who
  • 00:36:26.030 --> 00:36:28.070
  • God's called you to be, Dave?
  • 00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:29.200
  • - David Ware: Yeah, absolutely,
  • 00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:31.080
  • I remember coming, walking
  • 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:32.240
  • through the doors for the first
  • 00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:34.020
  • time when I was about 20 years
  • 00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:35.220
  • old.
  • 00:36:35.220 --> 00:36:36.220
  • And I'd come from a pretty, you
  • 00:36:36.220 --> 00:36:38.000
  • know, dark upbringing, been
  • 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.120
  • through some terrible things.
  • 00:36:39.120 --> 00:36:40.190
  • And I guess you kind of become
  • 00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:42.150
  • jaded by the world a little bit.
  • 00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:44.050
  • And it was actually so, like,
  • 00:36:44.050 --> 00:36:45.240
  • life changing to come into a
  • 00:36:45.240 --> 00:36:46.260
  • church where people actually
  • 00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:48.280
  • wanted to bring the gold out in
  • 00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.120
  • you.
  • 00:36:50.120 --> 00:36:50.280
  • And you know, 10 years on that
  • 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.140
  • journey, I get to do a bit of
  • 00:36:52.140 --> 00:36:54.220
  • travel and meet with other
  • 00:36:54.220 --> 00:36:56.020
  • worship pastors.
  • 00:36:56.020 --> 00:36:57.030
  • And just the fact that we have
  • 00:36:57.030 --> 00:36:58.270
  • so many people in key places
  • 00:36:58.270 --> 00:37:00.180
  • within our church and beyond who
  • 00:37:00.180 --> 00:37:02.240
  • were raised up in our church
  • 00:37:02.240 --> 00:37:04.050
  • from, like, a young age, you
  • 00:37:04.050 --> 00:37:05.210
  • know?
  • 00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:06.080
  • Me being one of them, coming in
  • 00:37:06.080 --> 00:37:08.140
  • as a young 20-year-old and now
  • 00:37:08.140 --> 00:37:10.070
  • getting to do what I get to do.
  • 00:37:10.070 --> 00:37:11.260
  • But even more so, people like
  • 00:37:11.260 --> 00:37:12.240
  • George, who came through the
  • 00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:14.110
  • youth ministry and now has great
  • 00:37:14.110 --> 00:37:16.220
  • influence within his realm,
  • 00:37:16.220 --> 00:37:18.060
  • being a chaplain to sports.
  • 00:37:18.060 --> 00:37:19.220
  • It's amazing, and you know, I
  • 00:37:19.220 --> 00:37:21.070
  • think it's rare, but it's
  • 00:37:21.070 --> 00:37:23.200
  • awesome that we get to be a part
  • 00:37:23.200 --> 00:37:24.290
  • of a church like that.
  • 00:37:24.290 --> 00:37:26.030
  • - Brian: What about you,
  • 00:37:26.030 --> 00:37:27.140
  • George?
  • 00:37:27.140 --> 00:37:28.060
  • You came into our church when
  • 00:37:28.060 --> 00:37:29.060
  • you were, what, a high-school
  • 00:37:29.060 --> 00:37:30.000
  • boy?
  • 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:30.270
  • - George: Yeah, I was in high
  • 00:37:30.270 --> 00:37:31.210
  • school.
  • 00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:32.180
  • I was lucky enough to go to a
  • 00:37:32.180 --> 00:37:33.120
  • prestigious school in Sydney.
  • 00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:34.160
  • And I think, the message--
  • 00:37:34.160 --> 00:37:35.160
  • - Brian: Did you get a rugby
  • 00:37:35.160 --> 00:37:36.110
  • scholarship to go to that
  • 00:37:36.110 --> 00:37:37.040
  • school?
  • 00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:38.000
  • - George: Yes, I did for 2
  • 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:38.290
  • years, and so, the last 2 years
  • 00:37:38.290 --> 00:37:40.010
  • of high school, was junior high,
  • 00:37:40.010 --> 00:37:41.150
  • oh, no, senior high, sorry, from
  • 00:37:41.150 --> 00:37:42.260
  • year 11 and 12.
  • 00:37:42.260 --> 00:37:44.080
  • So that was quite fortunate for
  • 00:37:44.080 --> 00:37:45.130
  • me because it's such a
  • 00:37:45.130 --> 00:37:46.130
  • prestigious school.
  • 00:37:46.130 --> 00:37:48.010
  • But I think even coming through
  • 00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:49.130
  • the last years of my high
  • 00:37:49.130 --> 00:37:51.070
  • school, and started coming to
  • 00:37:51.070 --> 00:37:52.120
  • youth, I think I actually got
  • 00:37:52.120 --> 00:37:53.250
  • that feeling that, "What I'm
  • 00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:55.120
  • doin' outside correlates with
  • 00:37:55.120 --> 00:37:57.020
  • what I do in church."
  • 00:37:57.020 --> 00:37:58.100
  • And the only thing I knew was
  • 00:37:58.100 --> 00:37:59.200
  • sport, and so, I think now,
  • 00:37:59.200 --> 00:38:02.010
  • looking back, if I actually
  • 00:38:02.010 --> 00:38:03.070
  • pursued a sporting career, I
  • 00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:04.260
  • probably wouldn't be in the
  • 00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:05.260
  • position I am now in church and
  • 00:38:05.260 --> 00:38:07.000
  • that because I realized I'm
  • 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.250
  • actually here to help people,
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  • and that's the gift that God's
  • 00:38:09.240 --> 00:38:10.240
  • given me, to encourage and to be
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  • around certain people.
  • 00:38:12.120 --> 00:38:13.230
  • - Brian: Well, it's cool
  • 00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:15.160
  • though.
  • 00:38:15.160 --> 00:38:16.060
  • And I love the fact that down at
  • 00:38:16.060 --> 00:38:17.230
  • the football club, everyone
  • 00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:19.090
  • calls you, "Rev."
  • 00:38:19.090 --> 00:38:20.250
  • And so, I think it's a term of
  • 00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:23.020
  • affection, and so it's kinda
  • 00:38:23.020 --> 00:38:25.010
  • cool.
  • 00:38:25.010 --> 00:38:25.220
  • I'm gonna start callin' you,
  • 00:38:25.220 --> 00:38:26.210
  • "Rev," as well.
  • 00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:28.070
  • You know, they call you,
  • 00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:29.170
  • "Reverend."
  • 00:38:29.170 --> 00:38:30.220
  • But you've got a natural way
  • 00:38:30.220 --> 00:38:31.250
  • about you when it comes to what
  • 00:38:31.250 --> 00:38:33.140
  • you do.
  • 00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:34.190
  • You never come across like a
  • 00:38:34.190 --> 00:38:36.020
  • super fan.
  • 00:38:36.020 --> 00:38:37.130
  • You never come across like you
  • 00:38:37.130 --> 00:38:39.130
  • want anything from them.
  • 00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:40.260
  • Are they some of the things that
  • 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:43.150
  • cause people who are already,
  • 00:38:43.150 --> 00:38:46.010
  • you know, living a big
  • 00:38:46.010 --> 00:38:47.120
  • influential life themselves
  • 00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:48.250
  • using what they have and--?
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  • - George: Totally, 'cause I
  • 00:38:50.190 --> 00:38:51.110
  • think when in sport, especially,
  • 00:38:51.110 --> 00:38:52.130
  • they're always looking, "What do
  • 00:38:52.130 --> 00:38:54.100
  • you want from me?
  • 00:38:54.100 --> 00:38:55.150
  • And how can I get it, or how can
  • 00:38:55.150 --> 00:38:57.290
  • you get it out of me?"
  • 00:38:57.290 --> 00:38:59.120
  • So, if I come from a different
  • 00:38:59.120 --> 00:39:00.070
  • approach where, "I'm just here
  • 00:39:00.070 --> 00:39:01.170
  • for you, regardless of who you
  • 00:39:01.170 --> 00:39:03.050
  • are, your profile, you're an
  • 00:39:03.050 --> 00:39:04.090
  • elite, or even working through
  • 00:39:04.090 --> 00:39:06.000
  • the system," automatically, they
  • 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.110
  • take a backward step and they
  • 00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:09.140
  • really think, "He's actually
  • 00:39:09.140 --> 00:39:11.020
  • here for me."
  • 00:39:11.020 --> 00:39:13.160
  • And that may take 6 months or a
  • 00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:14.290
  • year, which it did, but at the
  • 00:39:14.290 --> 00:39:16.180
  • end of the day, I'm still being
  • 00:39:16.180 --> 00:39:17.150
  • consistent, which is one of your
  • 00:39:17.150 --> 00:39:18.170
  • messages, well, one of the means
  • 00:39:18.170 --> 00:39:20.150
  • of chabad, being really
  • 00:39:20.150 --> 00:39:21.140
  • consistent in terms of lives.
  • 00:39:21.140 --> 00:39:23.030
  • And so, I think, over the years,
  • 00:39:23.030 --> 00:39:24.100
  • it's been really--it's been
  • 00:39:24.100 --> 00:39:25.270
  • challenging, but at the same
  • 00:39:25.270 --> 00:39:26.270
  • time, it's been well worth,
  • 00:39:26.270 --> 00:39:27.270
  • 'cause I've seen the fruits now.
  • 00:39:27.270 --> 00:39:29.060
  • But the fruits now, probably 10
  • 00:39:29.060 --> 00:39:30.060
  • years, it was just long, hard,
  • 00:39:30.060 --> 00:39:32.280
  • just being consistent and being
  • 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.030
  • there for the players and their
  • 00:39:34.030 --> 00:39:35.110
  • partners as well.
  • 00:39:35.110 --> 00:39:36.100
  • - Brian: Do you know what it
  • 00:39:36.100 --> 00:39:37.160
  • is?
  • 00:39:37.160 --> 00:39:38.010
  • Is it just a grace or a gift on
  • 00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:38.270
  • your life that sports people
  • 00:39:38.270 --> 00:39:41.030
  • from not just your club, but
  • 00:39:41.030 --> 00:39:42.220
  • from all over, they just are
  • 00:39:42.220 --> 00:39:44.250
  • drawn to you for some reason as
  • 00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.120
  • a chaplain?
  • 00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:47.090
  • - George: I think I'm, you
  • 00:39:47.090 --> 00:39:48.000
  • know, definitely anointed,
  • 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.020
  • probably grace, and I'm not
  • 00:39:49.020 --> 00:39:50.060
  • talkin' myself up.
  • 00:39:50.060 --> 00:39:51.040
  • But I think if you know how to
  • 00:39:51.040 --> 00:39:52.140
  • speak their language, especially
  • 00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:53.160
  • in sport, if you know how to
  • 00:39:53.160 --> 00:39:54.270
  • speak their language and the way
  • 00:39:54.270 --> 00:39:55.290
  • they work, automatically, that
  • 00:39:55.290 --> 00:39:58.090
  • wall's gone down and you'll be
  • 00:39:58.090 --> 00:40:00.120
  • able to engage a lot better, if
  • 00:40:00.120 --> 00:40:03.020
  • that makes sense.
  • 00:40:03.020 --> 00:40:04.030
  • - Brian: So, you've been at
  • 00:40:04.030 --> 00:40:04.240
  • this current club where you're
  • 00:40:04.240 --> 00:40:05.270
  • the chaplain for how many years
  • 00:40:05.270 --> 00:40:07.160
  • now, 3?
  • 00:40:07.160 --> 00:40:08.140
  • - George: Six years.
  • 00:40:08.140 --> 00:40:09.050
  • - Brian: Six?
  • 00:40:09.050 --> 00:40:09.230
  • - George: Six years.
  • 00:40:09.230 --> 00:40:10.130
  • - Brian: You've been the
  • 00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:11.060
  • chaplain for 6 years?
  • 00:40:11.060 --> 00:40:12.020
  • - George: Yes, and I got
  • 00:40:12.020 --> 00:40:12.240
  • introduced to the club as a
  • 00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:13.190
  • chaplain by a tragedy that
  • 00:40:13.190 --> 00:40:14.240
  • happened.
  • 00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:15.230
  • So, there was a tragedy that
  • 00:40:15.230 --> 00:40:17.100
  • happened and the coach called
  • 00:40:17.100 --> 00:40:18.200
  • me, said, "Look, you need to
  • 00:40:18.200 --> 00:40:19.240
  • address the whole team."
  • 00:40:19.240 --> 00:40:21.020
  • And so, a handful of players
  • 00:40:21.020 --> 00:40:22.270
  • knew who the chaplain was, but
  • 00:40:22.270 --> 00:40:24.070
  • then here I am, a week later,
  • 00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:26.290
  • starting as addressing the whole
  • 00:40:26.290 --> 00:40:28.250
  • team as the chaplain.
  • 00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:30.110
  • So, it was really, for me, it
  • 00:40:30.110 --> 00:40:32.010
  • was like, "Okay, this is what a
  • 00:40:32.010 --> 00:40:33.060
  • chaplain does, in terms of the
  • 00:40:33.060 --> 00:40:34.190
  • outside world that I'm happy for
  • 00:40:34.190 --> 00:40:36.040
  • it."
  • 00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:37.050
  • - Brian: Yeah, and you do have
  • 00:40:37.050 --> 00:40:39.220
  • that natural aptitude.
  • 00:40:39.220 --> 00:40:41.220
  • Do you think it's a gift on your
  • 00:40:41.220 --> 00:40:42.250
  • life?
  • 00:40:42.250 --> 00:40:43.220
  • - George: Yeah, totally.
  • 00:40:43.220 --> 00:40:44.180
  • - Brian: You do, huh?
  • 00:40:44.180 --> 00:40:45.180
  • - George: Yeah.
  • 00:40:45.180 --> 00:40:46.250
  • - Brian: Because, yeah, it's
  • 00:40:46.250 --> 00:40:48.180
  • just, I get amazed, to be
  • 00:40:48.180 --> 00:40:49.220
  • honest.
  • 00:40:49.220 --> 00:40:50.180
  • I just see how you manage to get
  • 00:40:50.180 --> 00:40:51.280
  • in with so many sports people
  • 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.100
  • everywhere.
  • 00:40:53.100 --> 00:40:55.140
  • But it's not as though you're
  • 00:40:55.140 --> 00:40:56.180
  • pushing your way.
  • 00:40:56.180 --> 00:40:57.110
  • They come to you.
  • 00:40:57.110 --> 00:40:58.100
  • There just like, you know, bees
  • 00:40:58.100 --> 00:40:59.290
  • to the honeypot kinda thing.
  • 00:40:59.290 --> 00:41:01.160
  • I think it is.
  • 00:41:01.160 --> 00:41:02.120
  • I think it's a gift on your
  • 00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:03.070
  • life.
  • 00:41:03.070 --> 00:41:04.060
  • And you got a lot of gifts on
  • 00:41:04.060 --> 00:41:05.050
  • your life, David, obviously, in
  • 00:41:05.050 --> 00:41:08.000
  • the area of worship and singing.
  • 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.040
  • And of course, even outside of
  • 00:41:10.040 --> 00:41:12.030
  • that, you love to make music,
  • 00:41:12.030 --> 00:41:13.170
  • and you know, mess around with
  • 00:41:13.170 --> 00:41:16.010
  • music.
  • 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:16.290
  • And so, you've got a great gift
  • 00:41:16.290 --> 00:41:18.280
  • on your life.
  • 00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:20.040
  • Do you ever feel a temptation
  • 00:41:21.020 --> 00:41:24.020
  • even to let that get you proud
  • 00:41:24.020 --> 00:41:26.040
  • and--?
  • 00:41:26.040 --> 00:41:27.030
  • - David: Yeah, I mean, I think
  • 00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:28.220
  • you have to think you're really
  • 00:41:28.220 --> 00:41:29.240
  • good to get proud, but I don't
  • 00:41:29.240 --> 00:41:31.080
  • think I'm that good.
  • 00:41:31.080 --> 00:41:32.170
  • But I definitely feel like--
  • 00:41:32.170 --> 00:41:34.070
  • - Brian: Well, I think you're
  • 00:41:34.070 --> 00:41:34.250
  • pretty good.
  • 00:41:34.250 --> 00:41:35.170
  • I think everyone else around
  • 00:41:35.170 --> 00:41:36.110
  • here thinks you're pretty good.
  • 00:41:36.110 --> 00:41:37.260
  • - David: Thank you, thank you.
  • 00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:40.170
  • I think there definitely is a
  • 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:41.160
  • temptation to do that.
  • 00:41:41.160 --> 00:41:43.260
  • And more so, like, within
  • 00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:45.000
  • worship teams, definitely
  • 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.000
  • everyone's human.
  • 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:48.250
  • But being a person on our
  • 00:41:48.250 --> 00:41:50.140
  • creative team, we have a lot of
  • 00:41:50.140 --> 00:41:51.160
  • creatives within our church who
  • 00:41:51.160 --> 00:41:53.030
  • are out in the industry, in the
  • 00:41:53.030 --> 00:41:55.050
  • arts and entertainment world,
  • 00:41:55.050 --> 00:41:57.140
  • and even more so, you know, you
  • 00:41:57.140 --> 00:41:59.070
  • walk into a room and for some of
  • 00:41:59.070 --> 00:42:00.190
  • these guys, the room suddenly
  • 00:42:00.190 --> 00:42:02.160
  • becomes about you.
  • 00:42:02.160 --> 00:42:04.060
  • And I think when it comes
  • 00:42:04.060 --> 00:42:06.000
  • to gifting and people being
  • 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.230
  • raised up as kings and queens,
  • 00:42:07.230 --> 00:42:09.100
  • you know, especially from the
  • 00:42:09.100 --> 00:42:10.090
  • church to the world, I think one
  • 00:42:10.090 --> 00:42:12.180
  • of our roles is to be
  • 00:42:12.180 --> 00:42:13.230
  • understanding, first of all, but
  • 00:42:13.230 --> 00:42:15.160
  • also just to be Jesus, and to
  • 00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:17.090
  • show people who are in those
  • 00:42:17.090 --> 00:42:19.190
  • realms, sports, arts and
  • 00:42:19.190 --> 00:42:21.080
  • entertainment, business, all the
  • 00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:22.180
  • different spheres of society,
  • 00:42:22.180 --> 00:42:24.070
  • that there is a better way, that
  • 00:42:24.070 --> 00:42:25.220
  • there is Jesus.
  • 00:42:25.220 --> 00:42:26.270
  • And I think I'm in an
  • 00:42:26.270 --> 00:42:28.050
  • environment where I'm
  • 00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:29.040
  • continually reminded of that,
  • 00:42:29.040 --> 00:42:30.140
  • but it's exciting to see more
  • 00:42:30.140 --> 00:42:31.240
  • people be raised up in the outer
  • 00:42:31.240 --> 00:42:33.100
  • spheres of church to be
  • 00:42:33.100 --> 00:42:35.090
  • - David: When they get that
  • 00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:40.140
  • revelation of, "I have these
  • 00:42:40.140 --> 00:42:43.080
  • gifts because of God, and I'm
  • 00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:44.290
  • gonna be great at what I do and
  • 00:42:44.290 --> 00:42:46.100
  • excel, but I'm gonna do it to
  • 00:42:46.100 --> 00:42:47.180
  • the glory of God," and you see
  • 00:42:47.180 --> 00:42:49.010
  • the favor of God pour over
  • 00:42:49.010 --> 00:42:50.090
  • people's lives and you get to be
  • 00:42:50.090 --> 00:42:51.290
  • part of their stories, I think
  • 00:42:51.290 --> 00:42:52.290
  • it's awesome and it's very
  • 00:42:52.290 --> 00:42:54.110
  • - Brian: So, you know, I was
  • 00:42:57.270 --> 00:42:58.170
  • talking tonight about gifts, and
  • 00:42:58.170 --> 00:43:00.110
  • there's just so many gifts that
  • 00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:01.160
  • God gives.
  • 00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:02.120
  • And the big point I was making
  • 00:43:02.120 --> 00:43:03.090
  • is it's not yours.
  • 00:43:03.090 --> 00:43:05.220
  • And I think that one of the
  • 00:43:05.220 --> 00:43:07.060
  • biggest challenges that people
  • 00:43:07.060 --> 00:43:08.160
  • have when it comes to gifts that
  • 00:43:08.160 --> 00:43:09.260
  • God's given them, gifts that are
  • 00:43:10.140 --> 00:43:13.140
  • all about bringing other people
  • 00:43:13.140 --> 00:43:15.090
  • into influence--you know, God
  • 00:43:15.090 --> 00:43:16.170
  • gives you influence.
  • 00:43:16.170 --> 00:43:17.230
  • Say, talk about sport stars, God
  • 00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:18.290
  • gives them influence.
  • 00:43:18.290 --> 00:43:20.170
  • But you know, for believers,
  • 00:43:20.170 --> 00:43:22.070
  • it's only for two reasons God
  • 00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:23.140
  • gives someone an incredible
  • 00:43:23.140 --> 00:43:24.220
  • athletic thing.
  • 00:43:24.220 --> 00:43:26.210
  • Praise God for it.
  • 00:43:26.210 --> 00:43:27.230
  • You know, they're enjoying it.
  • 00:43:27.230 --> 00:43:29.080
  • But at the end of the day, it's
  • 00:43:29.080 --> 00:43:30.090
  • all about giving God glory and
  • 00:43:30.090 --> 00:43:31.290
  • using that gift to build a
  • 00:43:31.290 --> 00:43:34.010
  • platform.
  • 00:43:34.010 --> 00:43:34.210
  • It doesn't mean you have to be
  • 00:43:34.210 --> 00:43:35.110
  • preaching at everyone.
  • 00:43:35.110 --> 00:43:36.090
  • I don't mean that.
  • 00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:37.030
  • But to build a platform where
  • 00:43:37.030 --> 00:43:38.010
  • you can live, where you can let
  • 00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:39.110
  • your light shine.
  • 00:43:39.110 --> 00:43:40.100
  • And I don't mind what gift it
  • 00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:41.240
  • is--the Bible is so full of
  • 00:43:41.240 --> 00:43:43.120
  • different gifts, and we're so
  • 00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:45.020
  • good at turning them back on
  • 00:43:45.020 --> 00:43:46.110
  • ourselves.
  • 00:43:46.110 --> 00:43:47.000
  • I think one of the saddest
  • 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:47.200
  • things--the message I've been
  • 00:43:47.200 --> 00:43:49.150
  • preaching is all about, you
  • 00:43:49.150 --> 00:43:50.290
  • know, basically believing God to
  • 00:43:50.290 --> 00:43:52.060
  • raise you up with influence.
  • 00:43:52.060 --> 00:43:53.140
  • One of the saddest things is
  • 00:43:53.140 --> 00:43:54.210
  • that so often, people, when God
  • 00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:57.010
  • does bless them, and he does
  • 00:43:57.010 --> 00:43:58.210
  • make them a king or a queen in
  • 00:43:58.210 --> 00:44:00.260
  • one of the spheres in life, that
  • 00:44:00.260 --> 00:44:02.100
  • somehow, they forget from whence
  • 00:44:02.100 --> 00:44:03.240
  • they came and slowly, slowly,
  • 00:44:03.240 --> 00:44:05.190
  • slowly turn it on themselves.
  • 00:44:05.190 --> 00:44:07.120
  • And to me, that's a tragedy.
  • 00:44:07.120 --> 00:44:08.290
  • - George: Yeah, and I've seen
  • 00:44:08.290 --> 00:44:10.000
  • it all the time, where they've
  • 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:11.180
  • been promoted.
  • 00:44:11.180 --> 00:44:12.080
  • They've got a good contract.
  • 00:44:12.080 --> 00:44:13.140
  • And at that time, where they
  • 00:44:13.140 --> 00:44:15.180
  • were trying to get their
  • 00:44:15.180 --> 00:44:16.230
  • contract, they were really
  • 00:44:16.230 --> 00:44:17.140
  • believing for it.
  • 00:44:17.140 --> 00:44:18.150
  • They were, you know, in some
  • 00:44:18.150 --> 00:44:19.200
  • ways, fasting and praying for
  • 00:44:19.200 --> 00:44:20.250
  • it.
  • 00:44:20.250 --> 00:44:21.140
  • But then they get there, and
  • 00:44:21.140 --> 00:44:22.180
  • then they live these big lives,
  • 00:44:22.180 --> 00:44:24.280
  • and then sometimes they actually
  • 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.080
  • have forgotten.
  • 00:44:26.080 --> 00:44:27.020
  • So, for me, sometimes actually
  • 00:44:27.020 --> 00:44:28.140
  • reminding them, going, "Look,
  • 00:44:28.140 --> 00:44:29.240
  • this is where you were.
  • 00:44:29.240 --> 00:44:31.000
  • This is a picture of where you
  • 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:31.250
  • were 5, 4 years ago, gotta keep
  • 00:44:31.250 --> 00:44:33.220
  • it in mind."
  • 00:44:33.220 --> 00:44:34.110
  • 'Cause then, that actually
  • 00:44:34.110 --> 00:44:35.070
  • builds their performance on the
  • 00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:36.210
  • field as well, or in whatever
  • 00:44:36.210 --> 00:44:38.130
  • area they're in.
  • 00:44:38.130 --> 00:44:39.150
  • So, I think it's such an
  • 00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:40.250
  • encouraging way.
  • 00:44:40.250 --> 00:44:41.200
  • And giftings, you're right,
  • 00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:42.270
  • giftings are not for me.
  • 00:44:42.270 --> 00:44:44.090
  • It's actually for others.
  • 00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:45.030
  • And I love seeing that.
  • 00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:46.220
  • - David: Yeah, and especially,
  • 00:44:46.220 --> 00:44:47.200
  • I mean, I was catchin' up with a
  • 00:44:47.200 --> 00:44:48.220
  • worship pastor recently and
  • 00:44:48.220 --> 00:44:50.260
  • having a bit of trouble within
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  • his ministry.
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  • And it's so surprising to see,
  • 00:44:53.240 --> 00:44:55.250
  • you know, in a world where
  • 00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:57.060
  • ministry is definitely meant to
  • 00:44:57.060 --> 00:44:58.240
  • be selfless, as you were saying.
  • 00:44:58.240 --> 00:45:00.110
  • It's meant to be for people, to
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  • God.
  • 00:45:01.120 --> 00:45:02.260
  • Just having to remind 'em again,
  • 00:45:02.260 --> 00:45:04.150
  • you know, like, "Your worship is
  • 00:45:04.150 --> 00:45:06.060
  • meant to be selfless."
  • 00:45:06.060 --> 00:45:07.050
  • It's not about my expression and
  • 00:45:07.050 --> 00:45:08.120
  • what I wanna sound like, but
  • 00:45:08.120 --> 00:45:09.210
  • more about what the people who
  • 00:45:09.210 --> 00:45:11.050
  • are under your influence need,
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  • and how best you can point them
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  • to Jesus, and making worship
  • 00:45:14.040 --> 00:45:16.000
  • truly for people, but, like, to
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  • God.
  • 00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:19.040
  • - Brian: Well, as I was making
  • 00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:20.160
  • the point tonight, you know, the
  • 00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:21.280
  • word for ministry, "diakonos,"
  • 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.220
  • is actually "serving."
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  • And I think that that's what
  • 00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:26.220
  • people forget.
  • 00:45:26.220 --> 00:45:27.160
  • As soon as they make it about,
  • 00:45:27.160 --> 00:45:28.180
  • "My ministry," you know, "My
  • 00:45:28.180 --> 00:45:30.000
  • gift," they forget that really,
  • 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.060
  • it's ultimately all about
  • 00:45:32.060 --> 00:45:33.030
  • serving, serving God and serving
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  • God's purposes and other people.
  • 00:45:35.050 --> 00:45:37.040
  • And that's why when I preach,
  • 00:45:37.040 --> 00:45:38.020
  • you know, if I start thinkin'
  • 00:45:38.020 --> 00:45:39.170
  • about myself, which you can do,
  • 00:45:39.170 --> 00:45:41.020
  • especially if you're, you know,
  • 00:45:41.020 --> 00:45:42.180
  • for whatever reason you're gonna
  • 00:45:42.180 --> 00:45:43.270
  • get uptight, what it means is
  • 00:45:43.270 --> 00:45:45.080
  • you forget what you were there
  • 00:45:45.080 --> 00:45:46.130
  • for 'cause you're only thinking
  • 00:45:46.130 --> 00:45:47.130
  • about yourself.
  • 00:45:47.130 --> 00:45:48.120
  • But if I'm thinking about people
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  • and all I'm trying to do is help
  • 00:45:49.110 --> 00:45:50.150
  • you, I just wanna help you, I
  • 00:45:50.150 --> 00:45:51.210
  • wanna serve you, I wanna serve
  • 00:45:51.210 --> 00:45:53.000
  • God's purpose in your life, I
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  • wanna lift your life up, I wanna
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  • help you, I wanna bless you, I
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  • wanna teach you, want to equip
  • 00:45:56.270 --> 00:45:58.030
  • you, it's an entirely different
  • 00:45:58.130 --> 00:46:01.150
  • concept.
  • 00:46:01.150 --> 00:46:02.050
  • I think sometimes, as
  • 00:46:02.050 --> 00:46:03.150
  • Christians, we could realize
  • 00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:04.200
  • that so much more because
  • 00:46:04.200 --> 00:46:05.190
  • people, especially with natural
  • 00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:07.000
  • gifts, athletic gift, there's
  • 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.270
  • painting, you know, whatever,
  • 00:46:08.270 --> 00:46:11.240
  • obviously, singing, anything,
  • 00:46:11.240 --> 00:46:13.220
  • people with natural gifts, they
  • 00:46:13.220 --> 00:46:15.080
  • often don't even--even
  • 00:46:15.080 --> 00:46:16.160
  • believers, they don't even
  • 00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:17.100
  • realize it is a gift from God.
  • 00:46:17.100 --> 00:46:19.210
  • It's just not they were born
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  • lucky 'cause they had two
  • 00:46:23.120 --> 00:46:24.090
  • coordinated parents.
  • 00:46:24.090 --> 00:46:26.100
  • It's a gift from God.
  • 00:46:26.100 --> 00:46:27.100
  • Every gift he gives, he gives
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  • for his purpose.
  • 00:46:29.180 --> 00:46:30.290
  • And so I think spiritual gifts
  • 00:46:30.290 --> 00:46:32.110
  • we understand, "Well, this is
  • 00:46:32.110 --> 00:46:33.240
  • for people and helping people."
  • 00:46:33.240 --> 00:46:35.070
  • But do you think sometimes
  • 00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:36.130
  • that's harder, when you've got a
  • 00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:37.230
  • great singing capacity, or you
  • 00:46:37.230 --> 00:46:40.000
  • know, you are good at what you
  • 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.280
  • do?
  • 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.060
  • - George: Well, definitely, I
  • 00:46:43.060 --> 00:46:44.240
  • struggle with that.
  • 00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:45.260
  • And there was a point where I
  • 00:46:45.260 --> 00:46:47.170
  • was like, "Okay, what I wanna do
  • 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:48.230
  • in life, ministry, and what does
  • 00:46:48.230 --> 00:46:50.180
  • that look like?"
  • 00:46:50.180 --> 00:46:51.250
  • And you combine sport and
  • 00:46:51.250 --> 00:46:52.210
  • ministry, and I had to research
  • 00:46:52.210 --> 00:46:54.160
  • being a chaplain and what a
  • 00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:55.180
  • chaplain was all about, and I
  • 00:46:55.180 --> 00:46:56.260
  • realized it all.
  • 00:46:56.260 --> 00:46:58.090
  • And I thought, "That's exactly
  • 00:46:58.090 --> 00:47:00.200
  • what I wanna do from now until
  • 00:47:00.200 --> 00:47:01.240
  • the day I die."
  • 00:47:01.240 --> 00:47:03.050
  • And so, one person told me when
  • 00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:05.010
  • I started, is when you start,
  • 00:47:05.010 --> 00:47:06.150
  • he said, "Just love them, love
  • 00:47:06.150 --> 00:47:07.200
  • them until they ask you why."
  • 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:09.100
  • And so, regardless of whatever
  • 00:47:09.100 --> 00:47:10.220
  • field it is, you just continue
  • 00:47:10.220 --> 00:47:12.140
  • to throw 'em under love, and
  • 00:47:12.140 --> 00:47:13.220
  • being there for them, yeah.
  • 00:47:14.060 --> 00:47:17.060
  • - Brian: That's awesome.
  • 00:47:17.060 --> 00:47:18.170
  • - David: I think there's
  • 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:19.080
  • nothing more, like, inspiring,
  • 00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:20.290
  • when you see someone who has
  • 00:47:20.290 --> 00:47:22.130
  • natural ability, like a
  • 00:47:22.130 --> 00:47:24.250
  • professional athlete, or a great
  • 00:47:24.250 --> 00:47:26.020
  • musician, or a great
  • 00:47:26.020 --> 00:47:27.210
  • communicator, and they get
  • 00:47:27.210 --> 00:47:29.050
  • revelation, especially if
  • 00:47:29.050 --> 00:47:30.190
  • there's in spheres that are kind
  • 00:47:30.190 --> 00:47:31.240
  • of outside the four walls of the
  • 00:47:31.240 --> 00:47:32.280
  • church.
  • 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:33.240
  • When they get that revelation
  • 00:47:33.240 --> 00:47:34.270
  • of, "I have these gifts because
  • 00:47:35.070 --> 00:47:38.070
  • of God, and I'm gonna be great
  • 00:47:38.070 --> 00:47:39.230
  • at what I do and excel, but I'm
  • 00:47:39.230 --> 00:47:41.110
  • gonna do it to the glory of
  • 00:47:41.110 --> 00:47:42.100
  • God," and you see the favor of
  • 00:47:42.100 --> 00:47:43.180
  • God pour over people's lives and
  • 00:47:43.180 --> 00:47:45.240
  • you get to be part of their
  • 00:47:45.240 --> 00:47:46.200
  • stories, a lot of them sit
  • 00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:47.210
  • within our, you know, in our
  • 00:47:47.210 --> 00:47:48.250
  • church pews, and I just think
  • 00:47:48.250 --> 00:47:50.150
  • it's, well, I think it's awesome
  • 00:47:50.150 --> 00:47:52.050
  • and it's very inspiring.
  • 00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:53.280
  • - George: Well, I remember a
  • 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.230
  • message you spoke on years ago
  • 00:47:54.230 --> 00:47:55.200
  • when I was in youth called "Use
  • 00:47:55.200 --> 00:47:57.090
  • What's in Your Hand for What's
  • 00:47:57.090 --> 00:47:58.130
  • in Your Heart."
  • 00:47:58.130 --> 00:47:59.070
  • And that has stuck with me ever
  • 00:47:59.070 --> 00:48:00.220
  • since 'cause it's definitely
  • 00:48:00.220 --> 00:48:01.210
  • sport and my heart is definitely
  • 00:48:01.210 --> 00:48:03.190
  • ministry.
  • 00:48:03.190 --> 00:48:04.120
  • So I combined the two.
  • 00:48:04.120 --> 00:48:05.140
  • I've been living that because of
  • 00:48:05.140 --> 00:48:06.240
  • what your message was back then,
  • 00:48:06.240 --> 00:48:08.090
  • and still the same till today,
  • 00:48:08.090 --> 00:48:09.180
  • to be honest.
  • 00:48:09.180 --> 00:48:10.130
  • - Brian: Yeah, well, that's why
  • 00:48:10.130 --> 00:48:11.030
  • this series "Kings and Queens,"
  • 00:48:11.030 --> 00:48:12.170
  • talking about influence and
  • 00:48:12.170 --> 00:48:13.280
  • influencing, is along the same
  • 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.260
  • lines.
  • 00:48:15.260 --> 00:48:16.180
  • Because the thought of that is
  • 00:48:16.180 --> 00:48:17.230
  • whatever God's put in your hand,
  • 00:48:17.230 --> 00:48:18.280
  • your gift, your talent, your
  • 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:19.240
  • career, your ability, whatever
  • 00:48:19.240 --> 00:48:21.280
  • he's put in your hand, it's all
  • 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.060
  • about what is in your heart.
  • 00:48:23.060 --> 00:48:25.260
  • So if what's in your heart is
  • 00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:26.280
  • purpose, maybe helping the poor,
  • 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.120
  • you know, someone could give up
  • 00:48:29.120 --> 00:48:31.030
  • what's in their hand and go and
  • 00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:32.030
  • try to help the poor.
  • 00:48:32.030 --> 00:48:33.030
  • But if they face it with what's
  • 00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:34.000
  • in their hand, I always use Bono
  • 00:48:34.020 --> 00:48:37.020
  • as the example.
  • 00:48:37.020 --> 00:48:38.210
  • Imagine Bono, he's passionate
  • 00:48:38.210 --> 00:48:39.280
  • about the third world and
  • 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.020
  • education and the poor,
  • 00:48:41.020 --> 00:48:42.170
  • passionate about it.
  • 00:48:42.170 --> 00:48:44.100
  • So, he could've thought, "Well,
  • 00:48:44.100 --> 00:48:45.080
  • look, I'm gonna give up this
  • 00:48:45.080 --> 00:48:46.040
  • songwriting and this singing,
  • 00:48:46.040 --> 00:48:47.200
  • and I'm just gonna go and I'm
  • 00:48:47.200 --> 00:48:48.270
  • gonna just go and, you know,
  • 00:48:48.270 --> 00:48:51.130
  • start an orphanage."
  • 00:48:51.130 --> 00:48:52.180
  • But by being Bono and having the
  • 00:48:52.180 --> 00:48:54.230
  • platform he has, he's able to
  • 00:48:54.230 --> 00:48:56.250
  • help the poor and the uneducated
  • 00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:59.200
  • on a scale beyond what you could
  • 00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:02.080
  • ever imagine.
  • 00:49:02.080 --> 00:49:03.180
  • So he's using what's in his
  • 00:49:03.180 --> 00:49:04.140
  • hand, you know, that God-given
  • 00:49:04.140 --> 00:49:06.130
  • gift, to fulfill what's in his
  • 00:49:06.130 --> 00:49:08.100
  • heart.
  • 00:49:08.100 --> 00:49:09.040
  • I think more Christians could
  • 00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:10.120
  • live like that.
  • 00:49:10.120 --> 00:49:11.280
  • - George: I agree, I agree.
  • 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.170
  • - Brian: So, how do you see,
  • 00:49:13.170 --> 00:49:14.140
  • David, that in your job, part of
  • 00:49:14.140 --> 00:49:16.100
  • Hillsong Worship, and obviously,
  • 00:49:16.100 --> 00:49:19.050
  • part of our own team at home
  • 00:49:19.050 --> 00:49:20.150
  • when you're home, how do you see
  • 00:49:20.150 --> 00:49:23.080
  • you can best influence people?
  • 00:49:23.080 --> 00:49:25.200
  • - David: You know, I think we
  • 00:49:25.200 --> 00:49:26.290
  • talked about it.
  • 00:49:26.290 --> 00:49:27.290
  • You've gotta look at what God
  • 00:49:27.290 --> 00:49:29.010
  • has given you, the gifts, what's
  • 00:49:29.010 --> 00:49:30.140
  • in your hand, using it for his
  • 00:49:30.140 --> 00:49:31.250
  • glory, but also becoming kings
  • 00:49:33.250 --> 00:49:36.250
  • and queens, you know, becoming
  • 00:49:36.250 --> 00:49:38.090
  • good and excelling at what you
  • 00:49:38.090 --> 00:49:39.220
  • do.
  • 00:49:39.220 --> 00:49:40.200
  • I think that's important.
  • 00:49:40.200 --> 00:49:42.090
  • I think you can never have
  • 00:49:42.090 --> 00:49:43.130
  • influence, and I think you
  • 00:49:43.130 --> 00:49:44.170
  • touched on it in one of these
  • 00:49:44.170 --> 00:49:46.000
  • messages, about you never gain
  • 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.040
  • influence if you're not actually
  • 00:49:48.040 --> 00:49:49.220
  • good at what you do.
  • 00:49:49.220 --> 00:49:51.020
  • As far as, you know, being a
  • 00:49:51.020 --> 00:49:52.150
  • creative pastor in our church, I
  • 00:49:52.150 --> 00:49:54.230
  • love the term "creative pastor"
  • 00:49:54.230 --> 00:49:56.160
  • 'cause it's not just worship
  • 00:49:56.160 --> 00:49:58.040
  • team pastor, but it's a pastor
  • 00:49:58.040 --> 00:50:00.090
  • of creative people.
  • 00:50:00.090 --> 00:50:01.230
  • And they exist on our teams on a
  • 00:50:01.230 --> 00:50:03.150
  • weekend, but they also exist in
  • 00:50:03.150 --> 00:50:05.170
  • studios, mixing songs for, you
  • 00:50:05.170 --> 00:50:08.110
  • know, high-level artists.
  • 00:50:08.110 --> 00:50:09.240
  • And I think what we can do is
  • 00:50:09.240 --> 00:50:11.230
  • start to think more about,
  • 00:50:11.230 --> 00:50:13.170
  • "Okay, how are we pastoring the
  • 00:50:13.170 --> 00:50:15.160
  • people that have potential
  • 00:50:15.160 --> 00:50:18.070
  • influence in those areas?
  • 00:50:18.070 --> 00:50:20.210
  • How are we loving them?
  • 00:50:20.210 --> 00:50:22.000
  • How are we becoming chaplains,
  • 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:23.040
  • for lack of a better term, to
  • 00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:25.030
  • those people so that they can
  • 00:50:25.030 --> 00:50:26.100
  • become kings and queens, shine
  • 00:50:26.100 --> 00:50:27.220
  • the light of Jesus?"
  • 00:50:27.220 --> 00:50:28.240
  • So, in those spheres.
  • 00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:30.020
  • - Brian: Good on you.
  • 00:50:30.020 --> 00:50:31.030
  • And George, last words?
  • 00:50:31.030 --> 00:50:32.230
  • - George: Just be authentic and
  • 00:50:32.230 --> 00:50:34.020
  • be real, to be honest.
  • 00:50:34.020 --> 00:50:35.110
  • It's been just being transparent
  • 00:50:35.110 --> 00:50:37.050
  • 'cause people see your agenda
  • 00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:38.100
  • from when you walk in the room.
  • 00:50:38.100 --> 00:50:40.020
  • And I think that's what it's
  • 00:50:40.020 --> 00:50:41.230
  • taught me a lot, being real,
  • 00:50:41.230 --> 00:50:43.280
  • being authentic, but also just
  • 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.020
  • being happy with being you.
  • 00:50:45.020 --> 00:50:46.220
  • Someone has to be you, it might
  • 00:50:46.220 --> 00:50:47.270
  • as well just be you.
  • 00:50:47.270 --> 00:50:48.280
  • And so--
  • 00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.160
  • - Brian: Yeah, well, thanks,
  • 00:50:50.160 --> 00:50:51.040
  • you guys, It's so good always to
  • 00:50:51.040 --> 00:50:52.010
  • talk to you.
  • 00:50:52.010 --> 00:50:52.270
  • And praise God for you, and
  • 00:50:52.270 --> 00:50:54.040
  • thank God for the way that you
  • 00:50:54.040 --> 00:50:55.150
  • sow in so much to Hillsong
  • 00:50:55.150 --> 00:50:58.030
  • Church, but also for everything
  • 00:50:58.030 --> 00:50:59.180
  • you do out beyond there, being
  • 00:50:59.180 --> 00:51:01.190
  • an influence, making an
  • 00:51:01.190 --> 00:51:02.170
  • influence, and raising up other
  • 00:51:02.170 --> 00:51:04.270
  • people to be an influence as
  • 00:51:04.270 --> 00:51:06.130
  • well.
  • 00:51:06.130 --> 00:51:07.150
  • So, I'm talking to a couple of
  • 00:51:07.150 --> 00:51:08.180
  • true kings right here, right
  • 00:51:08.180 --> 00:51:10.230
  • now.
  • 00:51:10.230 --> 00:51:11.150
  • Thanks so much.
  • 00:51:11.150 --> 00:51:12.070
  • And you, thank God for you.
  • 00:51:12.070 --> 00:51:13.250
  • Don't underestimate just what
  • 00:51:13.250 --> 00:51:15.120
  • impact your life can make.
  • 00:51:15.120 --> 00:51:17.100
  • You can make a huge difference.
  • 00:51:17.100 --> 00:51:20.030
  • And the best way, like Mother
  • 00:51:20.030 --> 00:51:21.240
  • Teresa said, is just help people
  • 00:51:21.240 --> 00:51:24.070
  • any way you can and start with
  • 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:26.150
  • the person closest to you.
  • 00:51:26.150 --> 00:51:28.090
  • What a great way to start your
  • 00:51:28.090 --> 00:51:29.150
  • week this week.
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  • Be blessed, thanks, join us
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