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Colour Conference: The Green Room

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August 30, 2016
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Guest Lucinda Dooley

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Colour Conference: The Green Room

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  • - Bobbie Houston: In lots of
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  • ways Colour has come of age,
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  • growing from that initial God
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  • whisper to place value on the
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  • feminine heart into a shout and
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  • declaration of his truth and
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  • justice.
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  • It has enabled thousands of
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  • women to find a new stature and
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  • the courage to be the change
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  • they wanna see on the earth.
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  • In this series we hear from some
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  • of the incredible
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  • Colour Sisterhood women,
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  • and I know you'll be encouraged
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  • to stay the path God
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  • has for you.
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  • On today's episode of
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  • "The Colour Greenroom"
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  • we speak with Lucinda Dooley,
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  • our Hillsong South Africa
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  • lead pastor on overcoming
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  • inadequacies in ministry.
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  • She also shares some stunning
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  • stories of the impact Sisterhood
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  • has made across the continent.
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  • I know you'll be
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  • - Danielle Jeyaratnam: Lucinda,
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  • it's great to have you here
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  • today.
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  • - Lucinda Dooley: Aw, so good
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  • to be here.
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  • Thank you.
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  • - Danielle: So you and your
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  • husband, Phil, are the lead
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  • pastors at Hillsong Cape Town,
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  • and I know that's ever expanding
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  • across South Africa.
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  • Tell me, what's happening?
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  • - Lucinda: We moved there
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  • 8 years ago, so it's well and
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  • truly home.
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  • And in the 8 years God has been
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  • incredible.
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  • Like we say here, he's building
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  • his church.
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  • I've seen that to be true, that
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  • he really is building his
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  • church, and over the 8 years God
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  • has brought the right people.
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  • We've got an incredible team,
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  • and across 8 years we've now
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  • started 6 locations.
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  • So we've got four in Cape Town,
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  • one in Pretoria, one in
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  • Johannesburg, and, you know,
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  • it's incredible what's
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  • happening.
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  • And I do wanna say this praise
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  • report, but the greatest praise
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  • report is every single week
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  • since we started church people
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  • have given their life to Jesus,
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  • and so it's been awesome.
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  • I love it.
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  • - Danielle: Very exciting, and
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  • you do a lot of significant
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  • things, and you seem incredibly
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  • confident.
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  • But was it always that way?
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  • What was the journey to this
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  • point for you?
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  • - Lucinda: A long one.
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  • Back in the day, back in the day
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  • I really felt God say,
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  • "It's time to become a leader,"
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  • and I used to think that.
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  • Well, I said to the Lord,
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  • "Okay, I'm gonna do it,
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  • but what should I do?"
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  • Because I literally would look
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  • at everything I thought
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  • leadership was, and I'd see
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  • people preaching, and I'm like,
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  • "Well, I can't preach."
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  • I'd see people singing.
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  • I'm like, "Okay, I can't sing."
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  • I'd see people dancing.
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  • "Okay, I can't dance."
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  • So I actually would say,
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  • "God, what is it that you
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  • want me to do?"
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  • And I felt the Lord say,
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  • weirdly,
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  • "You can talk to someone."
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  • And so I remember turning my
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  • head and looking at this girl,
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  • and I thought, "I'm gonna make
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  • her my friend."
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  • Over the course of many months I
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  • would say, "Hi, how are you?"
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  • She would grunt at me, and I
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  • would continue on.
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  • And do you know after about
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  • 3 or 4 months of saying
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  • "Hi" and trying to be friendly
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  • to this one girl, her and I
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  • became great friends, and I'd
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  • take her home, and we'd hang out
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  • at weekends.
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  • And we'd go eat
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  • Kentucky Fried Chicken.
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  • It was awesome.
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  • Long story short, I found out
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  • when she was young her father
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  • had shot her in the stomach,
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  • and he was in prison.
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  • And do you know that girl in
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  • actual fact was my serious call
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  • to ministry because obviously I
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  • was young.
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  • I couldn't help her then, but I
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  • could take her to someone that
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  • could.
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  • And I discovered that whatever
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  • God had done in me I just wanted
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  • to give it away to somebody
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  • else, so truly that has been my
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  • beginnings, take whatever God
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  • has done in me and just give it
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  • to someone.
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  • Take whatever he's done in me,
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  • and give it away to someone,
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  • whether that's an encouragement
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  • or a note or anything.
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  • I don't think I've ever stopped
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  • doing that.
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  • It--I just keep taking whatever
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  • God is telling me and give it
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  • away to someone else, and so I
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  • didn't know what gifts or
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  • talents I had.
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  • I didn't feel very confident.
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  • Even to this day, like at our
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  • last Sisterhood, one of my
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  • points, point number one of my
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  • message, was you cannot let your
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  • inadequacies anchor you.
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  • I preach that because I cannot
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  • let my inadequacy anchor me, and
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  • I feel like some people, like a
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  • boat has an anchor, some people
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  • let their inadequacy or their
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  • lack anchor them.
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  • And in actual fact, at the
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  • beginning of this year I was
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  • standing in my room.
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  • Phil has gone away, and I was
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  • thinking about the year, the
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  • bigness of the year and what I
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  • had to do.
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  • And I actually felt, like,
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  • overwhelmed with this wave of
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  • inadequacy, and I just said to
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  • God, "How am I gonna do
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  • all this?
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  • Like raise the kids, and build
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  • church, and be great for
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  • everyone, and be nice to
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  • everyone, and come up with new
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  • messages, and be fresh, how am I
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  • gonna do this?"
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  • And I really felt the Lord say,
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  • "Don't let your inadequacy
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  • anchor you.
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  • Put your hope in me, and let
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  • that be your anchor.
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  • And you're gonna keep soaring
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  • and keep going."
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  • And I would say to any girl out
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  • there we've all got
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  • inadequacies, and I think in our
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  • weakness it's only then that he
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  • can show his greatness.
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  • And so, in actual fact, I love
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  • my weaknesses, and I embrace
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  • them now because I know that in
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  • my weakness he can show himself
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  • strong.
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  • And so whatever people's
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  • inadequacies are just make the
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  • choice like Pastor Bobbie said,
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  • "Keep rising above it.
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  • It never gets old.
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  • Bravery never gets old.
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  • Courage never gets old."
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  • And to keep rising above it is
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  • what we're called to do.
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  • That's my journey.
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  • I've never felt particularly
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  • talented or gifted.
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  • I've just taken what God has
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  • done in me and given it to
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  • someone else.
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  • I feel like I am the ultimate
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  • example.
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  • If God can use me, he can use
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  • anybody.
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  • - Danielle: And I bet there's
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  • many people that are very glad
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  • So in your role as lead pastor
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  • over in Cape Town you have the
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  • great opportunity of working
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  • alongside Bobbie to pull
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  • together Colour Conference,
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  • and you also oversee
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  • Sisterhood in Cape Town.
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  • But rewind back to when
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  • you were in Sydney.
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  • What was your first
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  • experience of Sisterhood?
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  • - Lucinda: Phil and I were
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  • youth pastors, and I remember we
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  • got told, "Okay, every Thursday
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  • morning you're gonna stop your
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  • job.
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  • All the girls on the team are
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  • Or back then it was--I think it
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  • was Word Shop or Hillsong Women
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  • back in the day.
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  • And so I remember thinking I
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  • couldn't imagine anything worse
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  • 'cause I wasn't into, like,
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  • women's things.
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  • I was thinking we're all gonna
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  • have cups of tea and eat scones,
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  • and that's gonna be it.
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  • I'm like--so in my heart--I
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  • never said this--I was like, "Of
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  • course, I'm gonna be there.
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  • It's gonna be awesome," but in
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  • my heart I was kind of thinking,
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  • "I don't want to do that.
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  • I don't wanna be at this."
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  • And then I'll never forget my
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  • very first week sitting in there
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  • and Pastor Bobbie spoke, and it
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  • was--something happened in the
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  • environment, and sitting in this
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  • group with women I was like,
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  • "What's going on?"
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  • I couldn't stop crying.
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  • I cried the whole way through
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  • it, and then I was like,
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  • "What's wrong with me?
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  • Why am I crying?"
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  • And I'm like,
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  • "This is ridiculous."
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  • Then I went the next week.
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  • Same thing happened and for
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  • quite a few weeks, and I
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  • realized that I can't explain it
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  • even to this day.
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  • But something incredible happens
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  • when women gather, and I don't
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  • know.
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  • I think God smiles upon it, and
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  • I think he ministers to you in
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  • that environment that doesn't
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  • maybe happen anywhere else.
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  • And so I feel like, you know,
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  • for me it became this oasis and
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  • this place where I actually--it
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  • was the one environment I got so
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  • ministered to and so blessed,
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  • and, of course, the Sisterhood
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  • message of identity and value
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  • and worth revolutionized who I
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  • am, and I guess that's why I can
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  • do what I do today.
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  • So, yeah, I'm very, very
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  • grateful for what I was a part
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  • of or what I am a part of.
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  • - Danielle: And that message
  • 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.180
  • you're talking about of identity
  • 00:07:40.180 --> 00:07:41.290
  • and worth and value, what
  • 00:07:41.290 --> 00:07:43.240
  • specifically did that do in you?
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  • - Lucinda: It teaches you who
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  • you really are, and if you
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  • understand who you really are
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  • you can minister out of that.
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  • You can minister out of
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  • a position of strength.
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  • I got my t-shirt,
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  • "Get Your Stance On," and so
  • 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:57.040
  • I think it changes your stance.
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  • If you understand your value,
  • 00:07:59.090 --> 00:08:01.040
  • if you understand your worth,
  • 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:02.080
  • if you understand who you are
  • 00:08:02.080 --> 00:08:03.170
  • and you allow God to do what he
  • 00:08:03.170 --> 00:08:05.100
  • needs to do in your life, then
  • 00:08:05.100 --> 00:08:06.220
  • he can do it through your life.
  • 00:08:06.220 --> 00:08:07.260
  • So, yeah, I think it's
  • 00:08:07.260 --> 00:08:09.220
  • revolutionized me.
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  • - Danielle: Obviously
  • 00:08:11.080 --> 00:08:11.230
  • that--God's done a great work
  • 00:08:11.230 --> 00:08:13.090
  • through you and in you, and now
  • 00:08:13.090 --> 00:08:15.250
  • you are in Cape Town,
  • 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:17.220
  • and you get to work alongside
  • 00:08:17.220 --> 00:08:19.100
  • Bobbie with Colour Conference.
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  • - Lucinda: We started with
  • 00:08:21.060 --> 00:08:21.230
  • Colour 1 Day, and we just had it
  • 00:08:21.230 --> 00:08:24.140
  • in our own church building, so
  • 00:08:24.140 --> 00:08:25.260
  • it was Colour 1 Day,
  • 00:08:25.260 --> 00:08:26.210
  • but the 1 Day got so packed it
  • 00:08:26.210 --> 00:08:29.010
  • became Colour 1 Day over 2 days.
  • 00:08:29.020 --> 00:08:32.020
  • And so then we're like,
  • 00:08:32.020 --> 00:08:33.040
  • "We can't do this again."
  • 00:08:33.040 --> 00:08:34.140
  • So that was 6 years ago, so then
  • 00:08:34.140 --> 00:08:37.010
  • we moved it to this building
  • 00:08:37.010 --> 00:08:38.060
  • called the Grand West Arena, and
  • 00:08:38.060 --> 00:08:40.110
  • we have Colour there.
  • 00:08:40.110 --> 00:08:41.210
  • So we've been there for 5 years
  • 00:08:41.210 --> 00:08:42.290
  • now, and we're believing this
  • 00:08:42.290 --> 00:08:45.060
  • year that we're going to reach
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  • 10.000 women.
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  • That's our goal.
  • 00:08:48.060 --> 00:08:49.060
  • We're well on our way.
  • 00:08:49.060 --> 00:08:50.260
  • And so our Friday-Saturday
  • 00:08:50.260 --> 00:08:51.240
  • conference actually is at
  • 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.030
  • capacity, and so we're really
  • 00:08:53.030 --> 00:08:54.140
  • believing the Wednesday-Thursday
  • 00:08:54.140 --> 00:08:55.280
  • one is gonna pack out as well.
  • 00:08:55.280 --> 00:08:57.090
  • And so I feel like it's been
  • 00:08:57.090 --> 00:08:59.130
  • an incredible journey.
  • 00:08:59.130 --> 00:09:00.200
  • The girls in South Africa--or
  • 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.000
  • Africa, I should say,
  • 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:04.120
  • Africa--are well and truly ready
  • 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.110
  • for the Sisterhood message.
  • 00:09:06.110 --> 00:09:08.140
  • - Danielle: And when was your
  • 00:09:08.140 --> 00:09:09.020
  • first conference?
  • 00:09:09.020 --> 00:09:10.030
  • When did you get to go to
  • 00:09:10.030 --> 00:09:11.070
  • a Colour Conference?
  • 00:09:11.070 --> 00:09:12.020
  • - Lucinda: Oh, I've been to all
  • 00:09:12.020 --> 00:09:13.290
  • 20 Colour Conferences, so--
  • 00:09:13.290 --> 00:09:16.290
  • - Danielle: Tell me, what was
  • 00:09:16.290 --> 00:09:17.170
  • it like being at the first one?
  • 00:09:17.170 --> 00:09:18.190
  • - Lucinda: I still remember
  • 00:09:18.190 --> 00:09:19.060
  • the first one clearly.
  • 00:09:19.060 --> 00:09:21.170
  • Holly Wagner spoke, and she did
  • 00:09:21.170 --> 00:09:23.120
  • a message on friendship and
  • 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:25.030
  • building great friends.
  • 00:09:25.030 --> 00:09:26.150
  • And Christine Caine spoke from
  • 00:09:26.150 --> 00:09:28.230
  • the "Cosmopolitan" magazine.
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  • She was awesome.
  • 00:09:30.190 --> 00:09:32.050
  • And I sat in the front row, and
  • 00:09:32.050 --> 00:09:33.250
  • I absorbed it all, and it was
  • 00:09:33.250 --> 00:09:35.110
  • absolutely amazing.
  • 00:09:35.110 --> 00:09:36.200
  • And my job at that conference, I
  • 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.030
  • was helping the lady look after
  • 00:09:38.030 --> 00:09:39.250
  • catering.
  • 00:09:39.250 --> 00:09:40.220
  • It was incredible.
  • 00:09:40.220 --> 00:09:41.280
  • And so what a journey it's been.
  • 00:09:41.280 --> 00:09:43.270
  • There was 600 girls or
  • 00:09:43.270 --> 00:09:45.090
  • thereabouts, so it's been
  • 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.120
  • awesome 'cause I've been able to
  • 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:49.180
  • see it go from there to what it
  • 00:09:49.180 --> 00:09:51.140
  • is today and global movement
  • 00:09:51.140 --> 00:09:53.150
  • around the world.
  • 00:09:53.150 --> 00:09:54.090
  • It's incredible, yeah.
  • 00:09:54.090 --> 00:09:55.140
  • - Danielle: And over
  • 00:09:55.140 --> 00:09:56.050
  • the 20 years that you've
  • 00:09:56.050 --> 00:09:57.140
  • been at Colour is there
  • 00:09:57.140 --> 00:09:58.200
  • any defining moments,
  • 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:00.150
  • stand-out moments, for you
  • 00:10:00.150 --> 00:10:01.280
  • personally at Colour Conference?
  • 00:10:01.280 --> 00:10:03.240
  • - Lucinda: I--like, I'm not
  • 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:04.190
  • just saying this, but every year
  • 00:10:04.190 --> 00:10:06.040
  • is--you always say--I walk away
  • 00:10:06.040 --> 00:10:08.060
  • saying, "Oh, my gosh, that was
  • 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:10.030
  • the best one yet."
  • 00:10:10.030 --> 00:10:11.260
  • And I think last night I walked
  • 00:10:11.260 --> 00:10:13.260
  • out of the session going, "Okay,
  • 00:10:13.260 --> 00:10:15.160
  • that was the best message ever."
  • 00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:17.110
  • And I think every year if it's,
  • 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:19.040
  • like, layer upon layer upon
  • 00:10:19.040 --> 00:10:20.130
  • layer all of it becomes a stand
  • 00:10:20.130 --> 00:10:22.060
  • out, and all of it helps to
  • 00:10:22.060 --> 00:10:23.150
  • shape you.
  • 00:10:23.150 --> 00:10:24.060
  • And I think one memory is
  • 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:27.120
  • definitely when Bobbie
  • 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.290
  • introduced the rubber gloves and
  • 00:10:29.290 --> 00:10:31.170
  • mobilized the women to get into
  • 00:10:31.170 --> 00:10:33.270
  • their world and make a
  • 00:10:33.270 --> 00:10:34.260
  • difference, and I think that's
  • 00:10:34.260 --> 00:10:35.250
  • been obviously a signature on
  • 00:10:35.250 --> 00:10:38.000
  • all that we do.
  • 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.100
  • Maybe she did it before then,
  • 00:10:39.100 --> 00:10:40.090
  • but that's one memory for me
  • 00:10:40.090 --> 00:10:41.270
  • where everyone held up their
  • 00:10:41.270 --> 00:10:42.210
  • rubber gloves and then she
  • 00:10:42.210 --> 00:10:44.150
  • mobilized the thousands to make
  • 00:10:44.150 --> 00:10:45.270
  • the world a better place, and I
  • 00:10:45.270 --> 00:10:47.060
  • think that's, you know, what
  • 00:10:47.060 --> 00:10:49.070
  • - Lucinda: I think women are
  • 00:10:53.160 --> 00:10:55.050
  • the same all over the world, and
  • 00:10:55.050 --> 00:10:57.030
  • if you start teaching the
  • 00:10:57.030 --> 00:10:58.050
  • message of value and the message
  • 00:10:58.050 --> 00:10:59.280
  • of worth and that you tell them
  • 00:10:59.280 --> 00:11:01.050
  • Jesus loves them and has a plan
  • 00:11:01.050 --> 00:11:02.200
  • for them, I think anywhere you
  • 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.150
  • - Danielle: In that whole
  • 00:11:12.250 --> 00:11:13.110
  • mobilization of the women out to
  • 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:15.250
  • make the world a better place,
  • 00:11:15.250 --> 00:11:17.210
  • what do you think that's done
  • 00:11:17.210 --> 00:11:18.240
  • globally for women and the
  • 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.040
  • movement through Sisterhood?
  • 00:11:21.040 --> 00:11:23.030
  • - Lucinda: I think we will only
  • 00:11:23.030 --> 00:11:23.220
  • see that in eternity because you
  • 00:11:23.220 --> 00:11:26.080
  • could not imagine.
  • 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:27.240
  • Like, girls all across the globe
  • 00:11:28.270 --> 00:11:31.270
  • take that message, and in their
  • 00:11:31.270 --> 00:11:34.030
  • little spheres they're doing
  • 00:11:34.030 --> 00:11:35.060
  • what they can to make the world
  • 00:11:35.060 --> 00:11:37.260
  • a better place.
  • 00:11:37.260 --> 00:11:38.140
  • And I think we'll only see the
  • 00:11:38.140 --> 00:11:39.290
  • fruit of that in eternity.
  • 00:11:39.290 --> 00:11:41.120
  • Yeah, it's incredible.
  • 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.260
  • - Danielle: It is amazing, and
  • 00:11:42.260 --> 00:11:43.210
  • you, like you've already
  • 00:11:43.210 --> 00:11:45.270
  • mentioned, have the great
  • 00:11:45.270 --> 00:11:47.090
  • opportunity about working
  • 00:11:47.090 --> 00:11:48.240
  • Sisterhood and Colour
  • 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.030
  • Tell me what it was like taking
  • 00:11:52.050 --> 00:11:54.110
  • what happens at Sisterhood
  • 00:11:54.110 --> 00:11:55.260
  • in Sydney over to Cape Town
  • 00:11:56.010 --> 00:11:59.010
  • and trying to outwork Sisterhood
  • 00:11:59.010 --> 00:12:00.260
  • on a local level there.
  • 00:12:00.260 --> 00:12:02.070
  • How did you do that?
  • 00:12:02.070 --> 00:12:03.060
  • - Lucinda: We just pioneered
  • 00:12:03.060 --> 00:12:04.070
  • church first, so we got that
  • 00:12:04.070 --> 00:12:06.040
  • going.
  • 00:12:06.040 --> 00:12:07.000
  • And then I was really wondering,
  • 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.190
  • "When should I start
  • 00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:09.100
  • Sisterhood?"
  • 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:10.050
  • So I think we'd been going for
  • 00:12:10.050 --> 00:12:11.020
  • 6 to 8 months, and then I'm
  • 00:12:11.020 --> 00:12:12.090
  • like, "Okay, then when will we
  • 00:12:12.090 --> 00:12:14.110
  • have it?" because in
  • 00:12:14.110 --> 00:12:14.280
  • South Africa not everybody likes
  • 00:12:14.280 --> 00:12:17.030
  • to come out in the night,
  • 00:12:17.030 --> 00:12:18.200
  • at nighttime.
  • 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:19.110
  • So I thought, "I'll put it on
  • 00:12:19.110 --> 00:12:21.070
  • Saturday morning.
  • 00:12:21.070 --> 00:12:22.120
  • I'll gather our key team or find
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.190
  • a key team."
  • 00:12:24.190 --> 00:12:26.190
  • I found a key team, and we
  • 00:12:26.190 --> 00:12:28.120
  • talked about what Sisterhood was
  • 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:29.290
  • for maybe a couple of months
  • 00:12:29.290 --> 00:12:32.030
  • prior to launching, and I taught
  • 00:12:32.030 --> 00:12:34.240
  • the girls what we did here and
  • 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.270
  • what it was all about and why we
  • 00:12:36.270 --> 00:12:38.050
  • did it.
  • 00:12:38.050 --> 00:12:38.200
  • And we listened to some of
  • 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:39.180
  • Bobbie's messages, and I believe
  • 00:12:39.180 --> 00:12:41.060
  • everyone got that in their
  • 00:12:41.060 --> 00:12:41.280
  • spirit.
  • 00:12:41.280 --> 00:12:42.130
  • And then we gathered as many
  • 00:12:42.130 --> 00:12:43.280
  • girls as we could, and we put on
  • 00:12:43.280 --> 00:12:45.090
  • a Saturday morning gathering of
  • 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:46.230
  • women.
  • 00:12:46.230 --> 00:12:47.280
  • And we taught them what the
  • 00:12:47.280 --> 00:12:48.290
  • Sisterhood was, what it was
  • 00:12:48.290 --> 00:12:50.190
  • gonna be.
  • 00:12:50.190 --> 00:12:51.220
  • And do you know the very first
  • 00:12:51.220 --> 00:12:53.020
  • one was so profound.
  • 00:12:53.020 --> 00:12:54.260
  • I think we had about
  • 00:12:54.260 --> 00:12:55.130
  • 1.300 girls,
  • 00:12:55.130 --> 00:12:57.220
  • and the beautiful black
  • 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.260
  • girls were coming in, and then
  • 00:13:00.260 --> 00:13:02.110
  • the white girls, some white
  • 00:13:02.110 --> 00:13:03.160
  • girls were painting their nails.
  • 00:13:03.160 --> 00:13:05.260
  • And then the black girls were
  • 00:13:05.260 --> 00:13:07.190
  • crying because they had never
  • 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:09.000
  • had that happen, like, a white
  • 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:10.170
  • women serving them.
  • 00:13:10.170 --> 00:13:12.080
  • It often can look the other way
  • 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:13.220
  • around, and so it was very,
  • 00:13:13.220 --> 00:13:16.200
  • very--I realized then this is
  • 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:19.020
  • gonna be profound in our nation,
  • 00:13:19.020 --> 00:13:21.140
  • and I believe in our continent.
  • 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:23.130
  • Yeah, it was amazing.
  • 00:13:23.130 --> 00:13:24.180
  • I get emotional.
  • 00:13:24.180 --> 00:13:25.240
  • That's me.
  • 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:27.250
  • But it was so awesome.
  • 00:13:27.250 --> 00:13:29.200
  • Since then it's just--it's
  • 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.070
  • bloomed.
  • 00:13:31.070 --> 00:13:32.050
  • I mean, God has used it,
  • 00:13:32.050 --> 00:13:33.240
  • and it's really special.
  • 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.170
  • - Danielle: And you get the
  • 00:13:35.170 --> 00:13:36.210
  • great joy of working alongside
  • 00:13:36.210 --> 00:13:39.100
  • all the different teams that
  • 00:13:39.100 --> 00:13:40.080
  • make Sisterhood happen.
  • 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.050
  • Have there been any beautiful
  • 00:13:42.050 --> 00:13:44.020
  • moments or stories from girls
  • 00:13:44.020 --> 00:13:46.160
  • that have stood out to you who
  • 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:48.130
  • have heard the message of
  • 00:13:48.130 --> 00:13:50.040
  • Sisterhood?
  • 00:13:50.040 --> 00:13:50.240
  • - Lucinda: Yeah, well, when we
  • 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.150
  • were getting going, I really
  • 00:13:53.150 --> 00:13:54.240
  • felt, you know, the Lord say,
  • 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.050
  • "Make sure you always include
  • 00:13:57.050 --> 00:13:58.250
  • 'for the least of these.'
  • 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:00.150
  • Go and find
  • 00:14:00.150 --> 00:14:01.100
  • 'for the least of these,'
  • 00:14:01.100 --> 00:14:02.130
  • and bring them in."
  • 00:14:02.130 --> 00:14:03.050
  • So we started from--right from
  • 00:14:03.050 --> 00:14:04.290
  • day 1 we started busing some
  • 00:14:04.290 --> 00:14:07.090
  • girls in from communities or
  • 00:14:07.090 --> 00:14:08.280
  • women's refuges.
  • 00:14:08.280 --> 00:14:10.120
  • We would just call up and find
  • 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:11.240
  • them, and over the course of
  • 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.090
  • time we've built great
  • 00:14:13.090 --> 00:14:14.010
  • relationships.
  • 00:14:14.010 --> 00:14:14.270
  • And one place, it's a women's
  • 00:14:15.030 --> 00:14:18.030
  • refuge where we bring girls.
  • 00:14:18.030 --> 00:14:19.250
  • There was a girl who was living
  • 00:14:19.250 --> 00:14:22.180
  • underneath a car, so her and her
  • 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.200
  • baby, they had no home, so they
  • 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.160
  • lived under the car.
  • 00:14:27.160 --> 00:14:29.010
  • And that was their shelter in
  • 00:14:29.010 --> 00:14:30.250
  • the evening, and they were going
  • 00:14:30.250 --> 00:14:31.240
  • to find a shelter in this
  • 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.060
  • refuge, but they couldn't get in
  • 00:14:33.060 --> 00:14:34.160
  • yet.
  • 00:14:34.160 --> 00:14:35.070
  • Anyhow, long story short, she
  • 00:14:35.070 --> 00:14:36.120
  • came along to the Sisterhood,
  • 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:38.210
  • and she cried the whole way
  • 00:14:38.210 --> 00:14:39.250
  • through it.
  • 00:14:39.250 --> 00:14:40.120
  • She gave her heart to Jesus, and
  • 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.050
  • then she asked if she could live
  • 00:14:42.050 --> 00:14:43.180
  • at church because she felt like
  • 00:14:43.180 --> 00:14:45.260
  • she had come home.
  • 00:14:45.260 --> 00:14:47.240
  • It was amazing, and so since
  • 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.010
  • then our church and our
  • 00:14:49.010 --> 00:14:51.030
  • Sisterhood has been able to
  • 00:14:51.030 --> 00:14:52.110
  • build a relationship with that
  • 00:14:52.110 --> 00:14:53.140
  • refuge, and it's been an awesome
  • 00:14:53.140 --> 00:14:55.090
  • relationship.
  • 00:14:55.090 --> 00:14:56.100
  • And every time there's
  • 00:14:56.100 --> 00:14:57.270
  • incredible stories.
  • 00:14:57.270 --> 00:14:58.200
  • Our last Sisterhood we just had
  • 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.200
  • a lady who had grown up as a
  • 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:02.010
  • Muslim, and somehow--in a very
  • 00:15:02.030 --> 00:15:05.030
  • challenged, very, very
  • 00:15:05.030 --> 00:15:06.120
  • challenged area somehow got on
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  • a bus, found herself at
  • 00:15:07.260 --> 00:15:09.020
  • Sisterhood, accepted Jesus,
  • 00:15:09.190 --> 00:15:12.190
  • and got her food--got some food.
  • 00:15:12.190 --> 00:15:14.050
  • Like, her whole life just got
  • 00:15:14.050 --> 00:15:15.100
  • radically turned around.
  • 00:15:15.100 --> 00:15:17.240
  • - Danielle: Gee, it would be
  • 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.220
  • pretty amazing getting to hear
  • 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:20.250
  • all the stories of the women
  • 00:15:20.250 --> 00:15:23.070
  • that have been impacted.
  • 00:15:23.070 --> 00:15:25.080
  • And have you loved watching the
  • 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:26.170
  • journey from where you started
  • 00:15:26.170 --> 00:15:28.050
  • to where you're at now?
  • 00:15:28.050 --> 00:15:29.050
  • - Lucinda: Honestly, I'm
  • 00:15:29.050 --> 00:15:30.160
  • amazed.
  • 00:15:30.160 --> 00:15:31.210
  • I say I've never in all my life
  • 00:15:31.210 --> 00:15:33.130
  • seen something like this because
  • 00:15:33.130 --> 00:15:35.070
  • it's just been so incredible.
  • 00:15:35.070 --> 00:15:37.290
  • And it's not even, like, how
  • 00:15:37.290 --> 00:15:39.220
  • many come.
  • 00:15:39.220 --> 00:15:40.180
  • It's the spirit in which they
  • 00:15:40.180 --> 00:15:41.180
  • come.
  • 00:15:41.180 --> 00:15:42.160
  • They come running in, and they
  • 00:15:42.160 --> 00:15:44.140
  • are, like, so hungry and so
  • 00:15:44.140 --> 00:15:46.170
  • desperate for God and for
  • 00:15:46.170 --> 00:15:48.130
  • a touch from God.
  • 00:15:48.130 --> 00:15:49.170
  • And it's just--it's amazing,
  • 00:15:49.170 --> 00:15:50.280
  • yeah.
  • 00:15:50.280 --> 00:15:51.150
  • - Danielle: And what do you do
  • 00:15:51.150 --> 00:15:52.040
  • at Sisterhood?
  • 00:15:52.040 --> 00:15:52.290
  • - Lucinda: Well, we have
  • 00:15:52.290 --> 00:15:54.050
  • incredible praise and worship,
  • 00:15:54.050 --> 00:15:55.230
  • as always.
  • 00:15:55.230 --> 00:15:56.230
  • We honor all girls, but we
  • 00:15:56.230 --> 00:15:58.000
  • always choose one or two
  • 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:59.270
  • in each of our--in each of our
  • 00:15:59.270 --> 00:16:01.060
  • locations.
  • 00:16:01.060 --> 00:16:02.090
  • We always have a cause attached,
  • 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:04.000
  • so at the end of it we're
  • 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.060
  • commissioning everyone to go and
  • 00:16:05.060 --> 00:16:07.050
  • to do something to be
  • 00:16:07.050 --> 00:16:09.040
  • a blessing.
  • 00:16:09.040 --> 00:16:09.220
  • - Danielle: What sort of
  • 00:16:09.220 --> 00:16:10.090
  • causes?
  • 00:16:10.090 --> 00:16:11.010
  • - Lucinda: Well, our last cause
  • 00:16:11.010 --> 00:16:12.010
  • was Colour because we need
  • 00:16:12.010 --> 00:16:14.120
  • everybody to help us get girls
  • 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:15.210
  • that are less fortunate to
  • 00:16:15.210 --> 00:16:16.290
  • Colour.
  • 00:16:16.290 --> 00:16:18.010
  • But we do things like one time
  • 00:16:18.010 --> 00:16:19.280
  • we did a--there's a beautiful
  • 00:16:19.280 --> 00:16:21.160
  • movement in a place called
  • 00:16:21.160 --> 00:16:22.250
  • Zambia.
  • 00:16:22.250 --> 00:16:23.170
  • They have homes for women with
  • 00:16:23.170 --> 00:16:25.210
  • HIV and their babies, and so we
  • 00:16:25.210 --> 00:16:28.190
  • gathered all the girls to buy
  • 00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:29.280
  • these little trinkets and
  • 00:16:29.280 --> 00:16:32.220
  • key-rings and different things
  • 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:34.040
  • that the women in Zambia make.
  • 00:16:34.040 --> 00:16:35.210
  • And we were able to make a whole
  • 00:16:35.210 --> 00:16:37.040
  • lot of funds to give them
  • 00:16:37.040 --> 00:16:38.110
  • Christmas meals and
  • 00:16:38.110 --> 00:16:39.110
  • Christmas presents.
  • 00:16:39.110 --> 00:16:40.150
  • And--but every time we attach
  • 00:16:40.150 --> 00:16:42.040
  • something to what we're doing
  • 00:16:42.040 --> 00:16:44.150
  • and gather everyone to that.
  • 00:16:44.150 --> 00:16:45.190
  • And one time we gathered a whole
  • 00:16:45.190 --> 00:16:48.060
  • lot of toiletries and different
  • 00:16:48.060 --> 00:16:49.280
  • things for the girls in jail and
  • 00:16:49.280 --> 00:16:51.280
  • took them out to the local
  • 00:16:51.280 --> 00:16:53.060
  • prisons, so each time we try and
  • 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:55.190
  • do something just to keep that
  • 00:16:55.190 --> 00:16:57.000
  • mobilization strong.
  • 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.250
  • Obviously we have attached
  • 00:16:58.250 --> 00:17:00.050
  • different causes to the
  • 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:00.290
  • Sisterhood, our A21 cause.
  • 00:17:01.020 --> 00:17:04.020
  • We have the Knitting Sisterhood.
  • 00:17:04.020 --> 00:17:05.220
  • We have the Baking Sisterhood,
  • 00:17:05.220 --> 00:17:07.130
  • all different kinds of things,
  • 00:17:07.130 --> 00:17:08.270
  • and it just keeps the message
  • 00:17:08.270 --> 00:17:11.060
  • going out into people's circles
  • 00:17:11.060 --> 00:17:13.190
  • wherever they are.
  • 00:17:13.190 --> 00:17:14.160
  • So we always have a cause
  • 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.020
  • attached to it.
  • 00:17:16.020 --> 00:17:17.050
  • We always have the Word of God
  • 00:17:17.050 --> 00:17:19.110
  • and teach the Word of God.
  • 00:17:19.110 --> 00:17:20.260
  • We always ask people to respond
  • 00:17:20.260 --> 00:17:23.120
  • to the message of Jesus.
  • 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:24.290
  • There's always salvation.
  • 00:17:24.290 --> 00:17:27.210
  • What--oh, we always do
  • 00:17:27.210 --> 00:17:28.270
  • giveaways.
  • 00:17:28.270 --> 00:17:30.000
  • We bless as many people as we
  • 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:31.010
  • can.
  • 00:17:31.010 --> 00:17:32.000
  • We go crazy.
  • 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:32.210
  • And we bake.
  • 00:17:32.210 --> 00:17:33.140
  • The girls bake, and we always
  • 00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:35.020
  • are able to make a little bit
  • 00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:36.180
  • more finance to sow back into
  • 00:17:36.180 --> 00:17:38.110
  • the Sisterhood and all
  • 00:17:38.110 --> 00:17:39.110
  • the different causes.
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:40.070
  • And so there are some of
  • 00:17:40.070 --> 00:17:41.130
  • the elements, and it's amazing.
  • 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:43.170
  • - Danielle: And I bet the women
  • 00:17:43.170 --> 00:17:44.060
  • love it.
  • 00:17:44.060 --> 00:17:44.270
  • - Lucinda: They love it.
  • 00:17:44.270 --> 00:17:45.190
  • They go crazy.
  • 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:46.290
  • And the African women, too,
  • 00:17:46.290 --> 00:17:48.060
  • they're so, like, passionate.
  • 00:17:48.060 --> 00:17:50.270
  • - Danielle: You're passionate,
  • 00:17:50.270 --> 00:17:51.160
  • Lucinda.
  • 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:52.040
  • - Lucinda: Thank you.
  • 00:17:52.040 --> 00:17:52.200
  • You're passionate, too.
  • 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:54.180
  • - Danielle: So when you taught
  • 00:17:54.180 --> 00:17:55.280
  • Sisterhood and you started
  • 00:17:55.280 --> 00:17:57.070
  • Sisterhood in Cape Town, you had
  • 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.180
  • grown up in Sydney, Australia.
  • 00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:02.250
  • The cultures are quite
  • 00:18:02.250 --> 00:18:03.240
  • different.
  • 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:05.030
  • What was it like going from an
  • 00:18:05.030 --> 00:18:07.200
  • Australian culture to an African
  • 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:10.230
  • culture?
  • 00:18:10.230 --> 00:18:11.260
  • - Lucinda: I didn't notice it
  • 00:18:11.260 --> 00:18:12.140
  • massively.
  • 00:18:12.140 --> 00:18:13.120
  • What I would say is I think
  • 00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:15.230
  • women are the same all over the
  • 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:17.260
  • world, and if you start teaching
  • 00:18:17.260 --> 00:18:19.290
  • the message of value and the
  • 00:18:19.290 --> 00:18:21.170
  • message of worth and that you
  • 00:18:21.170 --> 00:18:22.280
  • tell 'em Jesus loves them and
  • 00:18:22.280 --> 00:18:24.090
  • has a plan for them and wants to
  • 00:18:24.090 --> 00:18:25.220
  • use them in an incredible way, I
  • 00:18:25.220 --> 00:18:28.020
  • think anywhere you go women will
  • 00:18:28.020 --> 00:18:30.130
  • respond to that.
  • 00:18:30.130 --> 00:18:31.200
  • And if you tell them they're
  • 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:32.280
  • full of potential, they're
  • 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:34.220
  • beautiful, God loves them, yeah,
  • 00:18:34.250 --> 00:18:37.250
  • I think that transcends all
  • 00:18:37.250 --> 00:18:39.070
  • cultures.
  • 00:18:39.070 --> 00:18:40.160
  • God's Word transcends all
  • 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.180
  • cultures.
  • 00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:42.190
  • His goodness, his presence
  • 00:18:42.190 --> 00:18:43.190
  • transcends all cultures, and I
  • 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.280
  • just tell them all I love them.
  • 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:48.010
  • I'm their white,
  • 00:18:48.010 --> 00:18:49.130
  • Australian sister, and I always
  • 00:18:49.130 --> 00:18:51.100
  • wanted to have colored and black
  • 00:18:51.100 --> 00:18:53.110
  • children, and look at this.
  • 00:18:53.110 --> 00:18:54.240
  • This is amazing.
  • 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:55.250
  • And, yeah, so I think that
  • 00:18:55.250 --> 00:18:58.100
  • transcends--love transcends
  • 00:18:58.100 --> 00:19:00.020
  • everything, and so if you go in
  • 00:19:00.020 --> 00:19:01.240
  • with that spirit I think
  • 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.050
  • - Lucinda: It was
  • 00:19:08.120 --> 00:19:09.130
  • absolutely--the atmosphere was
  • 00:19:09.130 --> 00:19:11.050
  • astounding.
  • 00:19:11.050 --> 00:19:12.070
  • It was electric.
  • 00:19:12.070 --> 00:19:13.190
  • - Danielle: And how has the
  • 00:19:21.170 --> 00:19:22.260
  • message of Sisterhood spread
  • 00:19:22.260 --> 00:19:25.090
  • across the generations over
  • 00:19:25.090 --> 00:19:27.000
  • there for you?
  • 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.270
  • - Lucinda: There is an
  • 00:19:28.270 --> 00:19:29.150
  • incredible grace upon it, so we
  • 00:19:29.190 --> 00:19:32.190
  • are very graced with how it
  • 00:19:32.190 --> 00:19:34.230
  • outworks itself 'cause it's hard
  • 00:19:34.230 --> 00:19:36.210
  • to explain how does that all
  • 00:19:36.210 --> 00:19:37.160
  • happen.
  • 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.040
  • We say, "This is generational.
  • 00:19:40.050 --> 00:19:41.240
  • It's for the youngest, and it's
  • 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.150
  • for the more mature in the room,
  • 00:19:43.150 --> 00:19:45.120
  • and if everyone's together then
  • 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:47.020
  • it's a perfect picture."
  • 00:19:47.020 --> 00:19:48.170
  • And so we go after all the young
  • 00:19:48.170 --> 00:19:50.070
  • people, all the university
  • 00:19:50.070 --> 00:19:51.250
  • students.
  • 00:19:51.250 --> 00:19:52.180
  • Okay, they're incredible.
  • 00:19:52.180 --> 00:19:53.180
  • I cannot do it without them
  • 00:19:53.180 --> 00:19:55.020
  • 'cause they bring such passion
  • 00:19:55.020 --> 00:19:56.120
  • and life.
  • 00:19:56.120 --> 00:19:57.030
  • And every age gathers, and every
  • 00:19:57.030 --> 00:20:00.030
  • color gathers.
  • 00:20:00.030 --> 00:20:01.140
  • Every socioeconomic background
  • 00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:02.270
  • gathers, and I think that's the
  • 00:20:02.290 --> 00:20:05.290
  • perfect--how I want it to be.
  • 00:20:05.290 --> 00:20:08.130
  • - Danielle: That's really cool
  • 00:20:08.130 --> 00:20:09.090
  • to imagine all the different
  • 00:20:09.090 --> 00:20:11.160
  • girls, all the different ages
  • 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:13.000
  • coming together.
  • 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:14.130
  • Is there any standout moments
  • 00:20:14.130 --> 00:20:15.180
  • for you where you saw, you know,
  • 00:20:15.180 --> 00:20:17.100
  • some of the younger and older
  • 00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:18.150
  • generation maybe coming together
  • 00:20:18.150 --> 00:20:21.000
  • around that message?
  • 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:22.060
  • - Lucinda: Yeah, well, I always
  • 00:20:22.060 --> 00:20:23.020
  • say, "Is anyone gonna come?
  • 00:20:23.020 --> 00:20:24.240
  • Is this gonna work?"
  • 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.220
  • And then they'll go,
  • 00:20:25.220 --> 00:20:26.140
  • "They're gonna come.
  • 00:20:26.140 --> 00:20:27.120
  • It's gonna be awesome,"
  • 00:20:27.120 --> 00:20:28.110
  • and it truly has been.
  • 00:20:28.110 --> 00:20:29.260
  • One standout moment was our
  • 00:20:29.260 --> 00:20:31.140
  • last Sisterhood 'cause we just
  • 00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:33.290
  • started a campus in
  • 00:20:33.290 --> 00:20:35.060
  • Johannesburg, so we thought how
  • 00:20:35.060 --> 00:20:37.000
  • awesome would it be to--one lady
  • 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:39.060
  • actually filled a bus from
  • 00:20:39.060 --> 00:20:40.200
  • Soweto which is the largest
  • 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.250
  • township in South Africa.
  • 00:20:42.250 --> 00:20:44.050
  • It has over 1.2 million people.
  • 00:20:44.050 --> 00:20:46.240
  • It's a very well-known community
  • 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:49.190
  • in South Africa.
  • 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:51.210
  • Anyway, she bused in, like, I
  • 00:20:51.210 --> 00:20:53.010
  • think it was about 50 girls to
  • 00:20:53.010 --> 00:20:54.110
  • Johannesburg, so we're like, "We
  • 00:20:54.110 --> 00:20:56.070
  • can't keep adding buses," 'cause
  • 00:20:56.070 --> 00:20:57.170
  • that gets expensive, so I said,
  • 00:20:57.170 --> 00:20:59.120
  • "Why don't we take the
  • 00:20:59.120 --> 00:21:00.070
  • Sisterhood to Soweto?"
  • 00:21:00.070 --> 00:21:02.070
  • And then we're all going crazy.
  • 00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:03.130
  • "No, we gotta do this.
  • 00:21:03.130 --> 00:21:04.130
  • This is gonna be awesome,"
  • 00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:05.200
  • and so we did.
  • 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:07.120
  • So our team went out, and we set
  • 00:21:07.120 --> 00:21:09.080
  • up everything, our pamper zone.
  • 00:21:09.080 --> 00:21:11.110
  • Oh, that's what we always
  • 00:21:11.110 --> 00:21:12.050
  • have there, too.
  • 00:21:12.050 --> 00:21:13.000
  • - Danielle: Tell us about
  • 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:13.160
  • pamper.
  • 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.020
  • - Lucinda: Oh, pamper is
  • 00:21:14.020 --> 00:21:14.270
  • awesome, like, big tray--tables
  • 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.000
  • of, like, nails and massage, and
  • 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.200
  • it's just incredible.
  • 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.020
  • And so we went into Soweto and
  • 00:21:22.020 --> 00:21:24.080
  • set up pamper, got bake sales
  • 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:26.180
  • happening.
  • 00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:28.070
  • I didn't know who was gonna
  • 00:21:28.070 --> 00:21:29.030
  • come.
  • 00:21:29.030 --> 00:21:29.190
  • There's a few influential women
  • 00:21:29.190 --> 00:21:30.230
  • in there who live there,
  • 00:21:30.230 --> 00:21:32.090
  • who work in there.
  • 00:21:32.090 --> 00:21:33.120
  • And they gathered for us, and
  • 00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:34.230
  • the atmosphere was astounding.
  • 00:21:34.230 --> 00:21:37.060
  • It was electric.
  • 00:21:37.060 --> 00:21:38.190
  • They were so passionate.
  • 00:21:38.190 --> 00:21:40.090
  • There was--I think there was
  • 00:21:40.090 --> 00:21:41.070
  • over 419 women came and many
  • 00:21:43.090 --> 00:21:46.090
  • decisions for Jesus.
  • 00:21:46.090 --> 00:21:47.140
  • It was awesome.
  • 00:21:47.140 --> 00:21:48.220
  • - Danielle: You have told some
  • 00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:49.180
  • really incredible stories how
  • 00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:52.040
  • you've taken a whole message,
  • 00:21:52.040 --> 00:21:53.290
  • the justice message of
  • 00:21:53.290 --> 00:21:55.060
  • Sisterhood, into your local
  • 00:21:55.060 --> 00:21:57.280
  • setting.
  • 00:21:57.280 --> 00:21:59.070
  • Why do you think the justice,
  • 00:21:59.070 --> 00:22:01.180
  • humanitarian message of
  • 00:22:01.180 --> 00:22:03.180
  • Sisterhood is so key?
  • 00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:06.040
  • - Lucinda: Well, I think, if I
  • 00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:08.180
  • can say, of course, it's the
  • 00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:10.020
  • message of Sisterhood, but it's
  • 00:22:10.020 --> 00:22:11.110
  • the message of the Word of God,
  • 00:22:11.110 --> 00:22:13.120
  • and so if we are doing what he
  • 00:22:13.120 --> 00:22:15.240
  • requires of us, then you're
  • 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:17.140
  • living it out for real.
  • 00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:19.020
  • And, you know, that's what we're
  • 00:22:19.020 --> 00:22:21.160
  • meant to do.
  • 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:22.020
  • That's what we're called to do
  • 00:22:22.020 --> 00:22:23.020
  • is shine our light in the
  • 00:22:23.020 --> 00:22:24.010
  • darkness everywhere we go.
  • 00:22:24.010 --> 00:22:25.230
  • And I think if thousands of
  • 00:22:25.230 --> 00:22:27.240
  • girls gather here, all across
  • 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.220
  • the world, and shine their light
  • 00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:32.170
  • in the darkness, can you
  • 00:22:32.170 --> 00:22:33.190
  • imagine, like, what we can
  • 00:22:33.190 --> 00:22:35.170
  • actually accomplish for
  • 00:22:35.170 --> 00:22:36.240
  • the glory of God?
  • 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:37.150
  • So that's why we take, you know,
  • 00:22:37.260 --> 00:22:40.260
  • take justice, and it's not
  • 00:22:40.260 --> 00:22:42.170
  • all--it's not like this idea
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:44.290
  • that's trendy or cool.
  • 00:22:44.290 --> 00:22:46.230
  • It's like this is what we're
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  • called--how we're called to live
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  • our life, and I think if a
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  • global movement of thousands of
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  • girls around the world do that
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  • we're gonna see God glorified.
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  • We're gonna see people reached
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  • and touched and changed.
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  • And he cares about every single
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  • child, women, young, old.
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  • - Danielle: Have there been any
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  • women, specific women, that you
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  • can think of that have had, you
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  • know, pretty hard challenges and
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  • things that they've had to come,
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  • you know, had to overcome that
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  • you've had the honor of coming
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  • alongside?
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  • - Lucinda: One story that
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  • deeply impacted me, obviously we
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  • run Shine.
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  • - Danielle: And Shine is?
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  • - Lucinda: Shine is a program.
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  • It's a 6 or 7 week course,
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  • and it's really helping girls
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  • understand their potential,
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  • their value, their worth.
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  • We take it into all different
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  • communities.
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  • It's gone crazy.
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  • One group we went out to, it's
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  • an area called Mitchell's Plain.
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  • I went to do the graduation, so
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  • to give out the certificates.
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  • One girl got up, and she started
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  • to share her testimony, and she
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  • just broke down crying.
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  • And she said Shine has
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  • completely revolutionized who
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  • she is.
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  • It's given her life back.
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  • And she started to say how she
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  • was gang raped by a group of
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  • guys a few years back, and she
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  • had just died on the inside.
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  • And she didn't how she was ever
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  • gonna get back, you know,
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  • to strength.
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  • And then she'd come to Shine.
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  • She'd sat through the course.
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  • She'd had women around her to
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  • support and strengthen her.
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  • And I'm sitting here--'cause
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  • they wanted me to share my
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  • testimony, and I'm like, "Okay,
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  • I'm never sharing it again,"
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  • 'cause these women, like, you
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  • know, what she faced and what
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  • she went through I can't even
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  • imagine.
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  • Like, I actually can't imagine
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  • it.
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  • I stand amazed, and there's so
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  • many, so many incredible women
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  • and incredible stories and
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  • tragic situations and evil
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  • things that should never happen
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  • which, of course, we're gonna be
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  • a voice to that as best as we
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  • can.
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  • - Danielle: And what would your
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  • prayer be for the girls of
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  • Cape Town?
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  • - Lucinda: What would my
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  • prayer be?
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  • Oh, my gosh.
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  • I wish I had prepared my prayer,
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  • but my prayer would be that
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  • every single girl across Africa
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  • or in the world even understands
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  • that there's a God in heaven who
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  • truly loves and cares intimately
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  • for every single part
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  • of her life.
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  • Then I pray that she gets
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  • a revelation of his love.
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  • I pray that she gets a
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  • revelation that he would love to
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  • use her in incredible, powerful
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  • ways to impact others.
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  • I pray that everyone who's been
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  • damaged and broken gets rescued.
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  • Oh, my gosh.
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  • And I pray that he's made famous
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  • across the earth and that every
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  • single heart responds.
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  • I pray that we'll be girls that
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  • fight for every person.
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  • Yeah, I'm gonna cry.
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  • That's what I pray.
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  • That's what I pray, yeah.
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  • - Danielle: Lucinda, thank you
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  • for being here today.
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  • I appreciate you, and you're
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  • an incredible women.
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