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October 1, 2020
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THISPROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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  • PROGRAM IS SPONSORED INPART BY CARSHIELD, GIVING
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  • PART BY CARSHIELD, GIVINGTHOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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  • THOUSANDS OF VEHICLEOWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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  • OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][SMOOCH]
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  • [SMOOCH][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [DOOR SLAMMING][BING]
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  • [BING][REVVING, SCREECHING]
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  • [REVVING, SCREECHING][PLOP]
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  • [PLOP][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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  • - MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][BOINK]
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  • [BOINK][ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING][BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][CRASH]
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  • - ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS,
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  • - ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS,WELCOME TO
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  • WELCOME TO"THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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  • "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."I HAVE A VERY SPECIAL GUEST
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  • I HAVE A VERY SPECIAL GUESTAND A FRIEND TODAY TO SPEAK
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  • AND A FRIEND TODAY TO SPEAKWITH ABOUT A BOOK THAT HE
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  • BUT IT HAS STOOD THE TEST
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  • BUT IT HAS STOOD THE TESTOF TIME,
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  • OF TIME,WHICH MOST BOOKS DON'T.
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  • WHICH MOST BOOKS DON'T.OS GUINNESS, WELCOME TO
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  • OS GUINNESS, WELCOME TOTHE PROGRAM.
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  • THE PROGRAM.- OS GUINNESS: THANK YOU,
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  • - OS GUINNESS: THANK YOU,ERIC, A REAL DELIGHT TO BE
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  • - ERIC: VERY EXCITED TO
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  • - ERIC: VERY EXCITED TOTALK TO YOU ABOUT
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  • EVER SINCE I HEARD YOUR
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  • EVER SINCE I HEARD YOURNAME BEFORE I EVEN MET YOU,
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  • NAME BEFORE I EVEN MET YOU,PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT
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  • PEOPLE TALKED ABOUTTHIS BOOK THAT YOU HAD
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  • A SUBTITLE OF
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  • A SUBTITLE OF"THE DUST OF DEATH"
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  • "THE DUST OF DEATH"IS "THE '60s COUNTERCULTURE
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  • IS "THE '60s COUNTERCULTUREAND HOW IT CHANGED AMERICA
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  • I'M THRILLED THAT
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  • I'M THRILLED THATINTERVARSITY PRESS HAS
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  • INTERVARSITY PRESS HASJUST RE-ISSUED THE BOOK
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  • JUST RE-ISSUED THE BOOKAS PART OF THEIR NEW
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  • AS PART OF THEIR NEWSIGNATURE COLLECTION,
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  • IS THAT EVERYTHING YOU DO
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  • IS THAT EVERYTHING YOU DOWRITE ABOUT IN THE BOOK,
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  • WRITE ABOUT IN THE BOOK,IT IS MAYBE MORE RELEVANT
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  • IT IS MAYBE MORE RELEVANTTODAY THAN WHEN YOU WROTE
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  • TODAY THAN WHEN YOU WROTETHE BOOK IN THE EARLY '70s.
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  • THE BOOK IN THE EARLY '70s.- OS: WELL, IT'S TRUE,
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  • - OS: WELL, IT'S TRUE,AND I THINK PEOPLE WHO
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  • AND I THINK PEOPLE WHONEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
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  • NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'SGOING ON TODAY NEED TO
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  • GOING ON TODAY NEED TOUNDERSTAND THE LATE '60s,
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  • UNDERSTAND THE LATE '60s,AND THE WAY THAT'S THE KEY
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  • AND THE WAY THAT'S THE KEYTO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
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  • TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.AND, IN MANY WAYS, YOU CAN
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  • AND, IN MANY WAYS, YOU CANTHINK OF 2020 AS A RERUN
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  • THINK OF 2020 AS A RERUNOF '68.
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  • OF '68.YOU'D HAD THE
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  • YOU'D HAD THEASSASSINATION OF
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  • ASSASSINATION OFMARTIN LUTHER KING AND
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  • AND THEN A HUNDRED
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  • AND THEN A HUNDREDAMERICAN CITIES WERE ABLAZE.
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  • AMERICAN CITIES WERE ABLAZE.SO THERE WAS RADICALISM
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  • SO THERE WAS RADICALISMEVERYWHERE.
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  • EVERYWHERE.AND I HAD A FASCINATING
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  • AND I HAD A FASCINATINGTIME, STARTING IN
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  • TIME, STARTING INGREENWICH, CONNECTICUT,
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  • GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT,AND GOING ALL THE WAY OUT
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  • AND GOING ALL THE WAY OUTTO BERKELEY.
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  • TO BERKELEY.I MET MARIO SAVIO, WHO LED
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  • I MET MARIO SAVIO, WHO LEDTHE FREE SPEECH MOVEMENT,
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  • THE FREE SPEECH MOVEMENT,AND SO IT WAS A
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  • AND SO IT WAS AFASCINATING FIRST
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  • FASCINATING FIRSTINTRODUCTION TO AMERICA,
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  • INTRODUCTION TO AMERICA,AND THEN TO THE '60s,
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  • AND THEN TO THE '60s,FOR ME.
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  • FOR ME.- ERIC: DID YOU HAVE
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  • - ERIC: DID YOU HAVESOMETHING IN MIND WHEN YOU
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  • SOMETHING IN MIND WHEN YOUCAME HERE THAT YOU DID
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  • CAME HERE THAT YOU DIDWANNA WRITE A BOOK?
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  • WANNA WRITE A BOOK?HAD YOU BEEN AT L'ABRI
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  • HAD YOU BEEN AT L'ABRIJUST BEFORE THAT?
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  • JUST BEFORE THAT?TELL US A LITTLE BIT.
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  • - OS: NO, I'D NEVER
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  • - OS: NO, I'D NEVERTHOUGHT OF WRITING A BOOK
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  • THOUGHT OF WRITING A BOOKIN ALL MY LIFE, BUT I GREW
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  • WITH LOTS OF AMERICANS,
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  • WITH LOTS OF AMERICANS,BOTH AT SCHOOL AND IN NANJING,
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  • BOTH AT SCHOOL AND IN NANJING,WHERE WE LIVED IN THE CAPITAL.
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  • WHERE WE LIVED IN THE CAPITAL.YOU KNOW, WE'D GO TO THE
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  • YOU KNOW, WE'D GO TO THEAMERICAN EMBASSY ALL THE
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  • AMERICAN EMBASSY ALL THETIME, SO I GREW UP WITH
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  • TIME, SO I GREW UP WITHLOTS OF AMERICANS AND
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  • LOTS OF AMERICANS ANDALWAYS WANTED TO COME
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  • ALWAYS WANTED TO COMEHERE, BUT CERTAINLY I HAD
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  • HERE, BUT CERTAINLY I HADABSOLUTELY NO IDEA OF A BOOK.
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  • ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA OF A BOOK.BUT IT WAS SO EXTRAORDINARY,
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  • BUT IT WAS SO EXTRAORDINARY,TO ME, THE SIX WEEKS I
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  • TO ME, THE SIX WEEKS IWAS HERE, BUT I WENT BACK
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  • WAS HERE, BUT I WENT BACKAND GAVE A SERIES OF TEN
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  • AND GAVE A SERIES OF TENLECTURES AT L'ABRI ON THE
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  • LECTURES AT L'ABRI ON THE'60s, AND PEOPLE CAME UP
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  • '60s, AND PEOPLE CAME UPAND SAID,
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  • AND SAID,"WELL, YOU SHOULD WRITE
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  • "WELL, YOU SHOULD WRITETHIS."
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  • THIS."AND I BRUSHED IT ASIDE
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  • AND I BRUSHED IT ASIDEAND POO-POOED IT,
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  • AND POO-POOED IT,AND THEN MY OLD ENGLISH
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  • AND THEN MY OLD ENGLISHTEACHER FROM SCHOOL CAME
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  • TEACHER FROM SCHOOL CAMEBY, AND HE SAID,
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  • BY, AND HE SAID,"THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY.
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  • "THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY.YOU SHOULD WRITE IT."
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  • YOU SHOULD WRITE IT."NOW, AT HIS URGING,
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  • AND I WAS TRYING TO TAKE
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  • AND I WAS TRYING TO TAKEON THE SPIRIT OF THE TIMES
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  • ON THE SPIRIT OF THE TIMESBECAUSE, ANYONE WHO KNEW
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  • BECAUSE, ANYONE WHO KNEWTHOSE DAYS, THERE WERE TWO
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  • "THE MAKING OF THE
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  • "THE MAKING OF THECOUNTERCULTURE,"
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  • COUNTERCULTURE,"AND CHARLES REICH,
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  • AND CHARLES REICH,"THE GREENING OF AMERICA,"
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  • "THE GREENING OF AMERICA,"AND BOTH WERE CLAIMING THAT
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  • AND BOTH WERE CLAIMING THATTHE COUNTERCULTURE WOULD
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  • THE COUNTERCULTURE WOULDSUCCEED, AND I WAS
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  • SUCCEED, AND I WASCONVINCED IT WOULDN'T.
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  • CONVINCED IT WOULDN'T.YOU KNOW, THE SEEDS OF ITS
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  • YOU KNOW, THE SEEDS OF ITSFAILURE WERE IN IT, BUT IT
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  • FAILURE WERE IN IT, BUT ITHAD TO BE TAKEN INCREDIBLY
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  • HAD TO BE TAKEN INCREDIBLYSERIOUSLY.
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  • SIX WEEKS OF TRAVEL AROUND
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  • SIX WEEKS OF TRAVEL AROUNDTHIS COUNTRY, I ONLY MET
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  • THIS COUNTRY, I ONLY METONE EVANGELICAL, AND THAT
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  • WHO REALLY HAD AN
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  • WHO REALLY HAD ANUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS
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  • MOST PEOPLE IN THE
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  • MOST PEOPLE IN THEEVANGELICAL COMMUNITY WERE
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  • EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY WERESHOCKED OR WHATEVER,
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  • SHOCKED OR WHATEVER,BUT THEY WERE REACTING TO
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  • BUT THEY WERE REACTING TOIT BUT WITHOUT ANY
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  • IT BUT WITHOUT ANYUNDERSTANDING.
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  • UNDERSTANDING.AND, IN MANY WAYS, THE
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  • AND, IN MANY WAYS, THEEVANGELICALS SLEPT THROUGH
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  • AND IT WAS ONLY WITH THE
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  • AND IT WAS ONLY WITH THEJESUS MOVEMENT IN THE
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  • JESUS MOVEMENT IN THE'70s, AND THEN THE RISE OF
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  • '70s, AND THEN THE RISE OFMORAL MAJORITY IN 1975,
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  • MORAL MAJORITY IN 1975,THAT EVANGELICALS STARTED
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  • THAT EVANGELICALS STARTEDTO BE ENGAGED.
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  • TO BE ENGAGED.NOW, ALL OF THAT THOUGH IS
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  • NOW, ALL OF THAT THOUGH ISAMAZINGLY RELEVANT TODAY
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  • AMAZINGLY RELEVANT TODAYBECAUSE IT WAS AT THE END
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  • BECAUSE IT WAS AT THE ENDOF THE '60s, '67, '68
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  • OF THE '60s, '67, '68ITSELF, WHEN RUDI DUTSCHKE,
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  • ITSELF, WHEN RUDI DUTSCHKE,WHO WAS THE HEAD
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  • WHO WAS THE HEADOF THE RED BRIGADE IN
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  • OF THE RED BRIGADE INGERMANY, ONE OF THE
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  • GERMANY, ONE OF THERADICAL MOVEMENTS--
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  • RADICAL MOVEMENTS--AND THEN HE PICKED UP THE
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  • AND THEN HE PICKED UP THEIDEAS OF HERBERT MARCUSE,
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  • IDEAS OF HERBERT MARCUSE,AND THE TWO OF THEM CALLED
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  • "A LONG MARCH THROUGH THE
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  • "A LONG MARCH THROUGH THEINSTITUTIONS."
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  • INSTITUTIONS."AND, AS YOU KNOW, THAT IDEA
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  • AND, AS YOU KNOW, THAT IDEAGOES BACK TO ANTONIO GRAMSCI.
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  • GOES BACK TO ANTONIO GRAMSCI.MARXISM CLASSICALLY BASED
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  • MARXISM CLASSICALLY BASEDON ECONOMIC TENSIONS,
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  • THERE'D NEVER BEEN A
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  • THERE'D NEVER BEEN AREVOLUTION AS MARX
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  • REVOLUTION AS MARXPREDICTED.
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  • PREDICTED.AND SO YOU HAD THE RISE OF
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  • AND SO YOU HAD THE RISE OFNEO-MARXISM, OR
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  • NEO-MARXISM, ORREVOLUTIONARY
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  • REVOLUTIONARYLIBERATIONISM THROUGH THE
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  • LIBERATIONISM THROUGH THEFRANKFURT SCHOOL, AND THEY
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  • FRANKFURT SCHOOL, AND THEYCALLED FOR A LONG MARCH
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  • CALLED FOR A LONG MARCHTHROUGH THE INSTITUTIONS.
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  • THROUGH THE INSTITUTIONS.IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN I WAS
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  • IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN I WASHERE, 100 AMERICAN CITIES
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  • HERE, 100 AMERICAN CITIESWERE ABLAZE.
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  • WERE ABLAZE.NOW WE'RE SEEING PORTLAND,
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  • NOW WE'RE SEEING PORTLAND,YOU KNOW, WISCONSIN, AND
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  • YOU KNOW, WISCONSIN, ANDSO ON, ABLAZE, BUT NOT
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  • SO ON, ABLAZE, BUT NOTTHAT MUCH COMPARED WITH
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  • AND, YET RADICALS REALIZED
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  • AND, YET RADICALS REALIZEDTHAT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE
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  • THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE THESECRET TO THEIR WINNING.
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  • SECRET TO THEIR WINNING.SO THEY CALLED FOR THE
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  • SO THEY CALLED FOR THELONG MARCH, A SLOW,
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  • LONG MARCH, A SLOW,INCREMENTAL INVASION OF
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  • OF THE PRESS AND THE
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  • OF THE PRESS AND THEMEDIA, AND THEN THE WORLD
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  • MEDIA, AND THEN THE WORLDTHAT THEY CALLED THE
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  • HOLLYWOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT.
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  • HOLLYWOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT.WIN THOSE SECTORS OF SOCIETY,
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  • WIN THOSE SECTORS OF SOCIETY,AND YOU CAN WIN THE CULTURE.
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  • AND YOU CAN WIN THE CULTURE.AND, OF COURSE, AS WE LOOK
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  • AND, OF COURSE, AS WE LOOKBACK 50 YEARS LATER, WE
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  • BACK 50 YEARS LATER, WESEE THE EXTRAORDINARY
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  • SEE THE EXTRAORDINARYINROADS AND THE REMARKABLE
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  • INROADS AND THE REMARKABLESUCCESS THEY'VE HAD, WHICH
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  • SUCCESS THEY'VE HAD, WHICHREALLY LIES BEHIND A LOT
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  • REALLY LIES BEHIND A LOTOF WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
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  • OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.SO TO UNDERSTAND THE '60s
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  • - ERIC: IN THE
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  • - ERIC: IN THEINTRODUCTION TO THE BOOK,
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  • INTRODUCTION TO THE BOOK,YOU DO SAY THAT NOW WE'RE
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  • YOU DO SAY THAT NOW WE'RESEEING THE FULL FLOWER, IN
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  • SEEING THE FULL FLOWER, INA SENSE, OF THE SEEDS THAT
  • 00:06:26.531 --> 00:06:28.733
  • AND THIS DOES VERY MUCH
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  • AND THIS DOES VERY MUCHSEEM LIKE A REPRISE OF 1968,
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  • SEEM LIKE A REPRISE OF 1968,THE STREET VIOLENCE
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  • THE STREET VIOLENCEAND THE DRAMATIC
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  • I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING
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  • I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHINGWE'VE SEEN OUT IN THE OPEN
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  • WE'VE SEEN OUT IN THE OPENQUITE LIKE THIS FOR A LONG
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  • AND IT IS, I THINK,
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  • AND IT IS, I THINK,STARTLING TO MANY AMERICANS,
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  • STARTLING TO MANY AMERICANS,AND THEY'RE WONDERING WHERE
  • 00:06:51.323 --> 00:06:52.123
  • AND THEY'RE WONDERING WHERETHIS COMES FROM AND
  • 00:06:52.123 --> 00:06:53.225
  • THIS COMES FROM ANDWHAT IT'S ABOUT,
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  • WHAT IT'S ABOUT,AND YOU MENTIONED ANTONIO
  • 00:06:54.659 --> 00:06:55.360
  • AND YOU MENTIONED ANTONIOGRAMSCI AND MARCUSE.
  • 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.163
  • GRAMSCI AND MARCUSE.I WANT YOU TO TALK A
  • 00:06:58.163 --> 00:06:58.730
  • I WANT YOU TO TALK ALITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT
  • 00:06:58.730 --> 00:06:59.965
  • LITTLE BIT ABOUT THATBECAUSE I THROW THE TERM
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  • BECAUSE I THROW THE TERM"CULTURAL MARXISM" AROUND.
  • 00:07:00.599 --> 00:07:02.534
  • "CULTURAL MARXISM" AROUND.IT SEEMS AT THE HEART OF
  • 00:07:02.534 --> 00:07:03.635
  • IT SEEMS AT THE HEART OFALL OF THIS, BUT I WOULD
  • 00:07:03.635 --> 00:07:05.303
  • ALL OF THIS, BUT I WOULDLOVE IF YOU WOULD, FOR MY
  • 00:07:05.303 --> 00:07:07.506
  • LOVE IF YOU WOULD, FOR MYAUDIENCE, EXPLAIN WHAT
  • 00:07:07.506 --> 00:07:10.041
  • AUDIENCE, EXPLAIN WHATTHAT IS.
  • 00:07:10.041 --> 00:07:11.443
  • THAT IS.WE'RE GONNA GO TO A BREAK
  • 00:07:11.443 --> 00:07:12.410
  • WE'RE GONNA GO TO A BREAKHERE IN A MOMENT, BUT I
  • 00:07:12.410 --> 00:07:13.712
  • HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT IJUST WANNA SAY THAT THAT'S
  • 00:07:13.712 --> 00:07:15.247
  • AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT
  • 00:07:16.581 --> 00:07:20.051
  • AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUTHOW THAT VIEW OF THE WORLD
  • 00:07:20.051 --> 00:07:21.753
  • HOW THAT VIEW OF THE WORLDREALLY HARKENS BACK TO THE
  • 00:07:21.753 --> 00:07:23.221
  • REALLY HARKENS BACK TO THEFRENCH REVOLUTION AND IS
  • 00:07:23.221 --> 00:07:24.723
  • FRENCH REVOLUTION AND ISOPPOSED TO THE AMERICAN
  • 00:07:24.723 --> 00:07:27.659
  • OPPOSED TO THE AMERICANREVOLUTION.
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  • REVOLUTION.AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:07:29.628 --> 00:07:30.662
  • AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUTTHIS AND SAID THAT THAT'S
  • 00:07:30.662 --> 00:07:31.263
  • THIS AND SAID THAT THAT'SWHAT I SEE HAPPENING RIGHT
  • 00:07:31.263 --> 00:07:32.264
  • WHAT I SEE HAPPENING RIGHTNOW.
  • 00:07:32.264 --> 00:07:34.332
  • NOW.WE'RE SEEING THAT WAR
  • 00:07:34.332 --> 00:07:36.034
  • WE'RE SEEING THAT WARBEING FOUGHT OUT IN A WAY
  • 00:07:36.034 --> 00:07:37.969
  • BEING FOUGHT OUT IN A WAYTHAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN, THAT
  • 00:07:37.969 --> 00:07:39.538
  • THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN, THATWE'VE GOT THE FORCES OF
  • 00:07:39.538 --> 00:07:41.773
  • WE'VE GOT THE FORCES OFTHE RADICAL LEFT FIGHTING
  • 00:07:41.773 --> 00:07:44.309
  • THE RADICAL LEFT FIGHTINGTHE FORCES OF WHATEVER WE
  • 00:07:44.309 --> 00:07:46.711
  • THE FORCES OF WHATEVER WEWOULD CALL IT, THE
  • 00:07:46.711 --> 00:07:48.313
  • SO WHEN WE COME BACK, I'D
  • 00:07:50.015 --> 00:07:50.615
  • SO WHEN WE COME BACK, I'DLOVE IT IF YOU'D HELP US
  • 00:07:50.615 --> 00:07:52.250
  • LOVE IT IF YOU'D HELP USUNDERSTAND WHAT CULTURAL
  • 00:07:52.250 --> 00:07:53.919
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT CULTURALMARXISM IS, AND GET MORE
  • 00:07:53.919 --> 00:07:57.188
  • MARXISM IS, AND GET MOREINTO THAT.
  • 00:07:57.188 --> 00:07:57.756
  • INTO THAT.FOLKS, I'M TALKING TO
  • 00:07:57.756 --> 00:07:59.157
  • FOLKS, I'M TALKING TOOS GUINNESS, WHO IS MY
  • 00:07:59.157 --> 00:08:00.225
  • OS GUINNESS, WHO IS MYFRIEND, BUT HE'S BEEN VERY
  • 00:08:00.225 --> 00:08:00.959
  • FRIEND, BUT HE'S BEEN VERYMUCH AN INTELLECTUAL
  • 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:02.994
  • MUCH AN INTELLECTUALMENTOR OVER THE YEARS,
  • 00:08:02.994 --> 00:08:04.729
  • MENTOR OVER THE YEARS,HELPED ME UNDERSTAND MANY
  • 00:08:04.729 --> 00:08:06.464
  • HELPED ME UNDERSTAND MANYTHINGS, AND I'M GLAD HE'S
  • 00:08:06.464 --> 00:08:07.132
  • THINGS, AND I'M GLAD HE'SHERE TO HELP US ALL
  • 00:08:07.132 --> 00:08:08.800
  • HERE TO HELP US ALLTHROUGH THAT TODAY.
  • 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.001
  • HERE TO HELP US ALLTHROUGH THAT TODAY.
  • 00:08:11.001 --> 00:08:11.238
  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- ERIC: HEY THERE,
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  • - ERIC: HEY THERE,WELCOME BACK.
  • 00:08:14.207 --> 00:08:15.275
  • WELCOME BACK.IT'S "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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  • IT'S "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."I'M TALKING TO MY FRIEND,
  • 00:08:15.842 --> 00:08:17.477
  • I'M TALKING TO MY FRIEND,AND AS I SAID EARLIER,
  • 00:08:17.477 --> 00:08:19.112
  • AND AS I SAID EARLIER,INTELLECTUAL MENTOR.
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  • INTELLECTUAL MENTOR.I DON'T WANNA EMBARRASS
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  • I DON'T WANNA EMBARRASSHIM, BUT OS GUINNESS IS
  • 00:08:22.082 --> 00:08:23.550
  • HIM, BUT OS GUINNESS ISWITH US, TALKING ABOUT HIS
  • 00:08:23.550 --> 00:08:26.186
  • WITH US, TALKING ABOUT HISBOOK "THE DUST OF DEATH,"
  • 00:08:26.186 --> 00:08:27.087
  • BOOK "THE DUST OF DEATH,"WHICH IS REALLY A CLASSIC
  • 00:08:27.087 --> 00:08:28.555
  • WHICH IS REALLY A CLASSICNOW.
  • 00:08:28.555 --> 00:08:29.189
  • NOW.IT'S BEEN RE-ISSUED BY
  • 00:08:29.189 --> 00:08:32.593
  • IT'S BEEN RE-ISSUED BYINTERVARSITY.
  • 00:08:32.593 --> 00:08:33.160
  • INTERVARSITY.AND, OS, I WAS ASKING YOU
  • 00:08:33.160 --> 00:08:33.727
  • AND, OS, I WAS ASKING YOUJUST A MOMENT AGO TO HELP
  • 00:08:33.727 --> 00:08:34.494
  • JUST A MOMENT AGO TO HELPEXPLAIN THE BACKGROUND OF
  • 00:08:34.494 --> 00:08:36.129
  • EXPLAIN THE BACKGROUND OFWHAT IS CULTURAL MARXISM
  • 00:08:36.129 --> 00:08:37.698
  • WHAT IS CULTURAL MARXISMAND THE FRENCH REVOLUTION
  • 00:08:37.698 --> 00:08:39.266
  • AND THE FRENCH REVOLUTIONVERSUS THE AMERICAN
  • 00:08:39.266 --> 00:08:39.967
  • VERSUS THE AMERICANREVOLUTION, THINGS THAT
  • 00:08:39.967 --> 00:08:40.567
  • REVOLUTION, THINGS THATI'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:08:40.567 --> 00:08:43.303
  • I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUTBEFORE.
  • 00:08:43.303 --> 00:08:43.804
  • BEFORE.- OS: WELL, THE
  • 00:08:43.804 --> 00:08:44.938
  • - OS: WELL, THESIGNIFICANCE, I THINK, AT
  • 00:08:44.938 --> 00:08:45.772
  • SIGNIFICANCE, I THINK, ATTHE MOMENT IS CLEARLY
  • 00:08:45.772 --> 00:08:47.574
  • THE MOMENT IS CLEARLYAMERICA IS AS DEEPLY
  • 00:08:47.574 --> 00:08:48.775
  • AMERICA IS AS DEEPLYDIVIDED AS AT ANY TIME
  • 00:08:48.775 --> 00:08:50.243
  • DIVIDED AS AT ANY TIMESINCE JUST BEFORE THE
  • 00:08:50.243 --> 00:08:51.612
  • BUT WHY?
  • 00:08:53.013 --> 00:08:54.348
  • BUT WHY?THE DEEPEST DIVISION, I
  • 00:08:54.348 --> 00:08:56.883
  • THE DEEPEST DIVISION, ITHINK, IS NOT POSTALS
  • 00:08:56.883 --> 00:08:57.684
  • THINK, IS NOT POSTALSAND HOT LANDERS,
  • 00:08:57.684 --> 00:08:58.585
  • AND HOT LANDERS,AND ALL THAT.
  • 00:08:58.585 --> 00:08:59.219
  • AND ALL THAT.THE DEEPEST DIVISION IS
  • 00:08:59.219 --> 00:09:00.253
  • THE DEEPEST DIVISION ISTHOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THE
  • 00:09:00.253 --> 00:09:02.589
  • THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THEREPUBLIC AND FREEDOM FROM
  • 00:09:02.589 --> 00:09:05.359
  • REPUBLIC AND FREEDOM FROMTHE PERSPECTIVE OF 1776,
  • 00:09:05.359 --> 00:09:06.960
  • THE PERSPECTIVE OF 1776,THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION,
  • 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:08.829
  • THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION,WHICH WAS LARGELY BIBLICAL
  • 00:09:08.829 --> 00:09:10.664
  • WHICH WAS LARGELY BIBLICALIN ITS ORIGINS, AND THOSE
  • 00:09:10.664 --> 00:09:12.065
  • IN ITS ORIGINS, AND THOSEWHO UNDERSTAND ISSUES
  • 00:09:12.065 --> 00:09:13.867
  • WHO UNDERSTAND ISSUESTODAY, POST-MODERNISM,
  • 00:09:13.867 --> 00:09:15.402
  • TODAY, POST-MODERNISM,POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, AND
  • 00:09:15.402 --> 00:09:17.070
  • POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, ANDSEXUAL REVOLUTION, FROM
  • 00:09:17.070 --> 00:09:17.938
  • SEXUAL REVOLUTION, FROMTHE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
  • 00:09:17.938 --> 00:09:20.874
  • THE PERSPECTIVE OF THEFRENCH REVOLUTION AND ITS
  • 00:09:20.874 --> 00:09:22.209
  • FRENCH REVOLUTION AND ITSHEIRS, THAT'S THE DEEPEST
  • 00:09:22.209 --> 00:09:26.413
  • HEIRS, THAT'S THE DEEPESTDIVISION.
  • 00:09:26.413 --> 00:09:27.014
  • DIVISION.NOW, PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY
  • 00:09:27.014 --> 00:09:28.615
  • NOW, PEOPLE IMMEDIATELYTHINK, SAY, OF COMMUNISM,
  • 00:09:28.615 --> 00:09:29.249
  • THINK, SAY, OF COMMUNISM,WHICH CAME FROM THE FRENCH
  • 00:09:29.249 --> 00:09:30.283
  • NO, THAT WAS THE
  • 00:09:31.318 --> 00:09:32.419
  • NO, THAT WAS THEREVOLUTIONARY SOCIALISM
  • 00:09:32.419 --> 00:09:34.254
  • REVOLUTIONARY SOCIALISMOBVIOUSLY STARTED IN THE
  • 00:09:34.254 --> 00:09:35.389
  • OBVIOUSLY STARTED IN THE19TH CENTURY, BUT WAS
  • 00:09:35.389 --> 00:09:37.958
  • 19TH CENTURY, BUT WASPARTICULARLY STRONG IN THE
  • 00:09:37.958 --> 00:09:39.559
  • PARTICULARLY STRONG IN THE20TH-- THE RUSSIAN
  • 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:40.994
  • 20TH-- THE RUSSIANREVOLUTION, THE CHINESE
  • 00:09:40.994 --> 00:09:41.595
  • REVOLUTION, THE CHINESEREVOLUTION.
  • 00:09:41.595 --> 00:09:43.730
  • REVOLUTION.I WAS THERE.
  • 00:09:43.730 --> 00:09:44.865
  • I WAS THERE.WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS
  • 00:09:44.865 --> 00:09:45.432
  • WHAT WE'RE SEEING ISSOMETHING DIFFERENT.
  • 00:09:45.432 --> 00:09:48.335
  • SOMETHING DIFFERENT.IT'S CALLED REVOLUTIONARY
  • 00:09:48.335 --> 00:09:49.636
  • IT'S CALLED REVOLUTIONARYLIBERATIONISM, SOMETIMES
  • 00:09:49.636 --> 00:09:51.471
  • LIBERATIONISM, SOMETIMESWESTERN MARXISM OR
  • 00:09:51.471 --> 00:09:53.140
  • WESTERN MARXISM ORNEO-MARXISM, OR CULTURAL
  • 00:09:53.140 --> 00:09:56.076
  • NEO-MARXISM, OR CULTURALMARXISM.
  • 00:09:56.076 --> 00:09:57.411
  • MARXISM.AND AT ITS HEART IS WHAT'S
  • 00:09:57.411 --> 00:09:59.746
  • "GOD IS DEAD," THEY SAY,
  • 00:10:01.081 --> 00:10:02.149
  • "GOD IS DEAD," THEY SAY,SO EVERYTHING IS POWER.
  • 00:10:02.149 --> 00:10:05.185
  • SO EVERYTHING IS POWER.SO YOU ANALYZE PYRAMIDS OF
  • 00:10:05.185 --> 00:10:07.054
  • SO YOU ANALYZE PYRAMIDS OFPOWER.
  • 00:10:07.054 --> 00:10:08.522
  • POWER.YOU LOOK AT THINGS LIKE
  • 00:10:08.522 --> 00:10:11.692
  • YOU LOOK AT THINGS LIKESEX OR RACE OR CLASS OR
  • 00:10:11.692 --> 00:10:15.162
  • SEX OR RACE OR CLASS ORAGE AND SEE WHO'S THE
  • 00:10:15.162 --> 00:10:16.730
  • AGE AND SEE WHO'S THEOPPRESSOR, WHO'S THE
  • 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:18.198
  • OPPRESSOR, WHO'S THEOPPRESSED; WHO'S THE
  • 00:10:18.198 --> 00:10:20.033
  • OPPRESSED; WHO'S THESUPERIOR, WHO'S THE
  • 00:10:20.033 --> 00:10:20.567
  • SUPERIOR, WHO'S THESUBORDINATE; WHO'S THE
  • 00:10:20.567 --> 00:10:22.402
  • SUBORDINATE; WHO'S THEMAJORITY, WHO'S THE
  • 00:10:22.402 --> 00:10:23.103
  • MAJORITY, WHO'S THEMINORITY.
  • 00:10:23.103 --> 00:10:26.940
  • MINORITY.THEN YOU ANALYZE THE
  • 00:10:26.940 --> 00:10:28.742
  • THEN YOU ANALYZE THEVICTIM AND USE THE VICTIM
  • 00:10:28.742 --> 00:10:30.677
  • VICTIM AND USE THE VICTIMAS A TOOL TO WEAPONIZE
  • 00:10:30.677 --> 00:10:31.745
  • AS A TOOL TO WEAPONIZETHINGS AND TURN AGAINST
  • 00:10:31.745 --> 00:10:33.413
  • SO CRITICAL THEORY IS
  • 00:10:35.348 --> 00:10:36.016
  • SO CRITICAL THEORY ISVERY, VERY DANGEROUS,
  • 00:10:36.016 --> 00:10:38.452
  • VERY, VERY DANGEROUS,ABOVE ALL, BECAUSE IT
  • 00:10:38.452 --> 00:10:41.421
  • ABOVE ALL, BECAUSE ITOVERLAPS WITH THE JEWISH
  • 00:10:41.421 --> 00:10:43.256
  • OVERLAPS WITH THE JEWISHAND CHRISTIAN VIEW, YOU
  • 00:10:43.256 --> 00:10:44.858
  • AND CHRISTIAN VIEW, YOUHAVE TO TACKLE IN JUSTICE.
  • 00:10:44.858 --> 00:10:45.525
  • HAVE TO TACKLE IN JUSTICE.AND WE BOTH AGREE THERE
  • 00:10:45.525 --> 00:10:47.928
  • AND WE BOTH AGREE THEREARE INJUSTICES, SAY,
  • 00:10:47.928 --> 00:10:48.862
  • ARE INJUSTICES, SAY,SLAVERY, RACISM, BUT THE
  • 00:10:48.862 --> 00:10:52.132
  • ONCE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED
  • 00:10:53.533 --> 00:10:54.668
  • ONCE YOU'VE IDENTIFIEDINJUSTICE, HOW DO YOU
  • 00:10:54.668 --> 00:10:56.403
  • INJUSTICE, HOW DO YOURESPOND?
  • 00:10:56.403 --> 00:10:58.638
  • RESPOND?AND THEN THERE'S A NIGHT
  • 00:10:58.638 --> 00:11:00.240
  • AND THEN THERE'S A NIGHTAND DAY'S DIFFERENCE
  • 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:01.374
  • AND DAY'S DIFFERENCEBETWEEN THOSE TWO.
  • 00:11:01.374 --> 00:11:02.876
  • BETWEEN THOSE TWO.- ERIC: OKAY, SO THEN,
  • 00:11:02.876 --> 00:11:03.677
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO THEN,SPELL THAT OUT FOR US.
  • 00:11:03.677 --> 00:11:04.644
  • SPELL THAT OUT FOR US.WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN
  • 00:11:04.644 --> 00:11:06.947
  • WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE INHOW ONE RESPONDS?
  • 00:11:06.947 --> 00:11:07.547
  • HOW ONE RESPONDS?THE CULTURAL MARXIST, I
  • 00:11:07.547 --> 00:11:09.483
  • THE CULTURAL MARXIST, ISUPPOSE, CORRECT ME IF I'M
  • 00:11:09.483 --> 00:11:11.184
  • BUT THEY HAVE A ZERO-SUM
  • 00:11:13.186 --> 00:11:15.188
  • BUT THEY HAVE A ZERO-SUMGAME VIEW OF THE WORLD
  • 00:11:15.188 --> 00:11:16.423
  • GAME VIEW OF THE WORLDBECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT
  • 00:11:16.423 --> 00:11:17.858
  • BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUTPOWER, SO "EITHER YOU HAVE
  • 00:11:17.858 --> 00:11:23.497
  • POWER, SO "EITHER YOU HAVEPOWER AND TREASURE, OR I DO.
  • 00:11:23.497 --> 00:11:24.998
  • POWER AND TREASURE, OR I DO.WE BOTH CAN'T HAVE IT."
  • 00:11:24.998 --> 00:11:25.599
  • WE BOTH CAN'T HAVE IT."IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S THIS--
  • 00:11:25.599 --> 00:11:28.935
  • IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S THIS--IT'S A VERY NEGATIVE IDEA,
  • 00:11:28.935 --> 00:11:31.972
  • IT'S A VERY NEGATIVE IDEA,WHEREAS YOU AND I WOULD
  • 00:11:31.972 --> 00:11:34.174
  • WHEREAS YOU AND I WOULDSAY THAT A CAPITALISM
  • 00:11:34.174 --> 00:11:37.778
  • SAY THAT A CAPITALISMAPPLIED MORALLY, IN A
  • 00:11:37.778 --> 00:11:39.112
  • APPLIED MORALLY, IN AMORAL CULTURE, CAN GROW
  • 00:11:39.112 --> 00:11:40.280
  • MORAL CULTURE, CAN GROWWEALTH THAT A RISING TIDE
  • 00:11:40.280 --> 00:11:41.848
  • WEALTH THAT A RISING TIDECAN LIFT ALL BOATS.
  • 00:11:41.848 --> 00:11:43.750
  • I WOULD SAY IT'S MOST
  • 00:11:44.751 --> 00:11:45.285
  • I WOULD SAY IT'S MOSTFUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT.
  • 00:11:45.285 --> 00:11:46.153
  • FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT.BUT, TELL US, HOW DO THE
  • 00:11:46.153 --> 00:11:47.521
  • BUT, TELL US, HOW DO THETWO VIEWS OF DEALING WITH
  • 00:11:47.521 --> 00:11:49.122
  • TWO VIEWS OF DEALING WITHINJUSTICE DIFFER?
  • 00:11:49.122 --> 00:11:49.689
  • INJUSTICE DIFFER?- OS: WELL, YOU PUT YOUR
  • 00:11:49.689 --> 00:11:50.524
  • - OS: WELL, YOU PUT YOURFINGER ON IT.
  • 00:11:50.524 --> 00:11:53.093
  • FINGER ON IT.IT IS ONLY POWER IN A
  • 00:11:53.093 --> 00:11:55.028
  • IT IS ONLY POWER IN AZERO-SUM SCORCHED-EARTH
  • 00:11:55.028 --> 00:11:56.730
  • ZERO-SUM SCORCHED-EARTHMENTALITY.
  • 00:11:56.730 --> 00:11:59.432
  • MENTALITY.AND FOR US, AS JEWS AND
  • 00:11:59.432 --> 00:12:00.634
  • AND FOR US, AS JEWS ANDCHRISTIANS, OUR
  • 00:12:00.634 --> 00:12:02.369
  • CHRISTIANS, OURUNDERSTANDING GOES BACK TO
  • 00:12:02.369 --> 00:12:04.638
  • UNDERSTANDING GOES BACK TOTHE BIBLICAL PROPHETS.
  • 00:12:04.638 --> 00:12:06.540
  • THE BIBLICAL PROPHETS.SO THERE ARE INJUSTICES,
  • 00:12:06.540 --> 00:12:07.340
  • SO THERE ARE INJUSTICES,THERE IS OPPRESSION, THERE
  • 00:12:07.340 --> 00:12:09.009
  • THE BIBLE HAS THE
  • 00:12:10.277 --> 00:12:11.912
  • THE BIBLE HAS THESTRONGEST VIEW, NOT ONLY
  • 00:12:11.912 --> 00:12:13.613
  • STRONGEST VIEW, NOT ONLYOF FREEDOM, BUT OF THE
  • 00:12:13.613 --> 00:12:15.515
  • OF FREEDOM, BUT OF THECRITIQUE OF ABUSE
  • 00:12:15.515 --> 00:12:17.417
  • CRITIQUE OF ABUSEPROPHETICALLY, AND, OF
  • 00:12:17.417 --> 00:12:18.985
  • PROPHETICALLY, AND, OFCOURSE, YOU ADDRESS THINGS
  • 00:12:18.985 --> 00:12:20.854
  • BUT YOU CAN HAVE THAT
  • 00:12:22.022 --> 00:12:22.956
  • BUT YOU CAN HAVE THATABOUT-TURN OF REPENTANCE.
  • 00:12:22.956 --> 00:12:25.358
  • ABOUT-TURN OF REPENTANCE.YOU CAN HAVE FORGIVENESS,
  • 00:12:25.358 --> 00:12:27.027
  • YOU CAN HAVE FORGIVENESS,RECONCILIATION, ENEMIES
  • 00:12:27.027 --> 00:12:29.362
  • RECONCILIATION, ENEMIESBEING TURNED INTO FRIENDS.
  • 00:12:29.362 --> 00:12:30.864
  • BEING TURNED INTO FRIENDS.IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT THE
  • 00:12:30.864 --> 00:12:33.133
  • IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT THENEW TESTAMENT, THE GOSPEL,
  • 00:12:33.133 --> 00:12:34.701
  • NEW TESTAMENT, THE GOSPEL,CALLS "PEACEMAKING," AND
  • 00:12:34.701 --> 00:12:35.602
  • CALLS "PEACEMAKING," ANDYOU HAVE A VERY, VERY
  • 00:12:35.602 --> 00:12:36.970
  • YOU HAVE A VERY, VERYDIFFERENT APPROACH.
  • 00:12:36.970 --> 00:12:38.171
  • DIFFERENT APPROACH.AND, FOR ME, THE SADDEST
  • 00:12:38.171 --> 00:12:39.906
  • AND, FOR ME, THE SADDESTTHING TODAY IS MANY YOUNG
  • 00:12:39.906 --> 00:12:41.808
  • THING TODAY IS MANY YOUNGCHRISTIANS DON'T
  • 00:12:41.808 --> 00:12:43.276
  • CHRISTIANS DON'TUNDERSTAND NEO-MARXISM, SO
  • 00:12:43.276 --> 00:12:44.578
  • UNDERSTAND NEO-MARXISM, SOTHEY HEAR THE WORD
  • 00:12:44.578 --> 00:12:45.512
  • THEY HEAR THE WORD"JUSTICE" AND THEY LEAP UP
  • 00:12:45.512 --> 00:12:47.180
  • AND THE QUESTION IS NOT
  • 00:12:48.949 --> 00:12:50.250
  • AND THE QUESTION IS NOT"IS THERE INJUSTICE?"
  • 00:12:50.250 --> 00:12:51.751
  • "IS THERE INJUSTICE?"THE QUESTION IS HOW YOU'RE
  • 00:12:51.751 --> 00:12:54.554
  • THE QUESTION IS HOW YOU'REREDRESSING IT, AND OFTEN
  • 00:12:54.554 --> 00:12:56.022
  • REDRESSING IT, AND OFTENTHEIR WAYS OF REDRESSING IT,
  • 00:12:56.022 --> 00:12:59.693
  • THEY'RE REALLY GIVING YOU
  • 00:13:01.161 --> 00:13:02.929
  • THEY'RE REALLY GIVING YOUFORMS OF NEO-MARXISM WITH
  • 00:13:02.929 --> 00:13:04.397
  • FORMS OF NEO-MARXISM WITHAN OVERLAY OF CHRISTIAN
  • 00:13:04.397 --> 00:13:05.699
  • AN OVERLAY OF CHRISTIANLANGUAGE, AND THAT'S
  • 00:13:05.699 --> 00:13:06.733
  • LANGUAGE, AND THAT'STRAGIC BECAUSE THE TWO
  • 00:13:06.733 --> 00:13:08.468
  • TRAGIC BECAUSE THE TWOREVOLUTIONS LEAD IN
  • 00:13:08.468 --> 00:13:09.536
  • REVOLUTIONS LEAD INENTIRELY DIFFERENT
  • 00:13:09.536 --> 00:13:10.370
  • ENTIRELY DIFFERENTDIRECTIONS.
  • 00:13:10.370 --> 00:13:12.706
  • DIRECTIONS.THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT LEADS
  • 00:13:12.706 --> 00:13:15.809
  • THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT LEADSTO POWER STRUGGLES WITHOUT
  • 00:13:15.809 --> 00:13:18.211
  • TO POWER STRUGGLES WITHOUTEND UNTIL ONE SIDE OR
  • 00:13:18.211 --> 00:13:19.913
  • END UNTIL ONE SIDE ORANOTHER IS SO STRONG, BUT
  • 00:13:19.913 --> 00:13:21.448
  • ANOTHER IS SO STRONG, BUTNO ONE CAN CHALLENGE IT,
  • 00:13:21.448 --> 00:13:22.682
  • NO ONE CAN CHALLENGE IT,IN OTHER WORDS, TO
  • 00:13:22.682 --> 00:13:23.950
  • IN OTHER WORDS, TOAUTHORITARIANISM, AND THAT
  • 00:13:23.950 --> 00:13:25.886
  • AUTHORITARIANISM, AND THATWILL BE THE END OF THE
  • 00:13:25.886 --> 00:13:27.454
  • WILL BE THE END OF THELINE OF THE PROGRESSIVE
  • 00:13:27.454 --> 00:13:29.789
  • LINE OF THE PROGRESSIVELEFT AND THE SOCIALIST
  • 00:13:29.789 --> 00:13:30.624
  • LEFT AND THE SOCIALISTDIRECTION ITS LEADING.
  • 00:13:30.624 --> 00:13:32.192
  • DIRECTION ITS LEADING.- ERIC: WELL, IT DOES SEEM
  • 00:13:32.192 --> 00:13:34.694
  • - ERIC: WELL, IT DOES SEEMTO ME THAT THERE ARE MANY
  • 00:13:34.694 --> 00:13:36.329
  • TO ME THAT THERE ARE MANYCONFUSED ABOUT THESE THINGS,
  • 00:13:36.329 --> 00:13:36.897
  • CONFUSED ABOUT THESE THINGS,PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLE
  • 00:13:36.897 --> 00:13:39.065
  • PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLEWHO SEEM TO THINK THAT
  • 00:13:39.065 --> 00:13:40.834
  • WHO SEEM TO THINK THATSOME KIND OF SOCIALISM IS
  • 00:13:40.834 --> 00:13:43.036
  • THEY DON'T REALLY DEAL
  • 00:13:44.337 --> 00:13:45.672
  • THEY DON'T REALLY DEALWITH THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT
  • 00:13:45.672 --> 00:13:46.873
  • WITH THE DOWNSIDE OF THATVIEW.
  • 00:13:46.873 --> 00:13:47.607
  • VIEW.THEY DON'T DEAL WITH THE
  • 00:13:47.607 --> 00:13:48.808
  • THEY DON'T DEAL WITH THEIDEA THAT IT'S AN
  • 00:13:48.808 --> 00:13:50.010
  • IDEA THAT IT'S ANATHEISTIC VIEW, THAT THE
  • 00:13:50.010 --> 00:13:51.444
  • ATHEISTIC VIEW, THAT THECULTURAL MARXIST VIEW IS
  • 00:13:51.444 --> 00:13:52.512
  • CULTURAL MARXIST VIEW ISATHEISTIC, AND THAT IT
  • 00:13:52.512 --> 00:13:53.747
  • ATHEISTIC, AND THAT ITDOESN'T TALK ABOUT THE
  • 00:13:53.747 --> 00:13:55.282
  • DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THEBIBLICAL IDEA OF THE
  • 00:13:55.282 --> 00:13:56.449
  • BIBLICAL IDEA OF THESANCTITY OF LIFE, THE
  • 00:13:56.449 --> 00:13:57.484
  • SANCTITY OF LIFE, THESANCTITY OF THE
  • 00:13:57.484 --> 00:14:00.954
  • SANCTITY OF THEINDIVIDUAL.
  • 00:14:00.954 --> 00:14:01.454
  • INDIVIDUAL.IT ALLOWS THE STATE TO
  • 00:14:01.454 --> 00:14:01.988
  • IT ALLOWS THE STATE TOHAVE TREMENDOUS POWER OVER
  • 00:14:01.988 --> 00:14:04.457
  • BUT WE'VE OBVIOUSLY RAISED
  • 00:14:06.226 --> 00:14:07.294
  • BUT WE'VE OBVIOUSLY RAISEDA FEW GENERATIONS OF
  • 00:14:07.294 --> 00:14:09.829
  • A FEW GENERATIONS OFPEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY
  • 00:14:09.829 --> 00:14:11.464
  • PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRYWHO'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT
  • 00:14:11.464 --> 00:14:12.766
  • WHO'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUTTHIS, CERTAINLY NOT IN THE
  • 00:14:12.766 --> 00:14:14.334
  • THIS, CERTAINLY NOT IN THEPUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT
  • 00:14:14.334 --> 00:14:15.001
  • PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUTGENERALLY SPEAKING, NOT AT
  • 00:14:15.001 --> 00:14:16.836
  • GENERALLY SPEAKING, NOT ATALL.
  • 00:14:16.836 --> 00:14:18.405
  • ALL.- OS: WELL, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:14:18.405 --> 00:14:19.973
  • - OS: WELL, YOU KNOW,HOBBES TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:14:19.973 --> 00:14:21.241
  • HOBBES TALKED ABOUTLEVIATHAN, YOU KNOW THE
  • 00:14:21.241 --> 00:14:23.743
  • LEVIATHAN, YOU KNOW THEOVERWEENING STATE THAT
  • 00:14:23.743 --> 00:14:26.379
  • OVERWEENING STATE THATHE CALLED THE "MORTAL GOD."
  • 00:14:26.379 --> 00:14:26.880
  • HE CALLED THE "MORTAL GOD."AND YOU CAN SEE TODAY
  • 00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:27.948
  • AND YOU CAN SEE TODAYWITH THE IDEOLOGY OF
  • 00:14:27.948 --> 00:14:29.249
  • WITH THE IDEOLOGY OFTHE PROGRESSIVE LEFT, PLUS
  • 00:14:29.249 --> 00:14:34.521
  • THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT, PLUSTHE INEQUALITIES THAT HAVE
  • 00:14:34.521 --> 00:14:35.855
  • THE INEQUALITIES THAT HAVEBEEN CREATED IN OUR
  • 00:14:35.855 --> 00:14:36.389
  • BEEN CREATED IN OURGENERATION, THE LURE OF
  • 00:14:36.389 --> 00:14:37.724
  • AND MANY YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:14:39.659 --> 00:14:41.494
  • AND MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AREINCREDIBLY NAIVE.
  • 00:14:41.494 --> 00:14:43.430
  • INCREDIBLY NAIVE.NOW, I THINK WE GOTTA
  • 00:14:43.430 --> 00:14:44.431
  • NOW, I THINK WE GOTTARAISE THE QUESTION "IS IT
  • 00:14:44.431 --> 00:14:45.498
  • RAISE THE QUESTION "IS ITSTILL POSSIBLE TO CREATE
  • 00:14:45.498 --> 00:14:46.733
  • STILL POSSIBLE TO CREATESOCIETIES THAT DO JUSTICE
  • 00:14:46.733 --> 00:14:48.668
  • SOCIETIES THAT DO JUSTICETO HUMAN DIGNITY, TO
  • 00:14:48.668 --> 00:14:50.904
  • TO HUMAN DIGNITY, TOFREEDOM, TO STABILITY, TO
  • 00:14:50.904 --> 00:14:52.339
  • FREEDOM, TO STABILITY, TOPEACE, AND SO ON, AND SO
  • 00:14:52.339 --> 00:14:53.106
  • PEACE, AND SO ON, AND SOON, AND REALLY WORK OUT
  • 00:14:53.106 --> 00:14:54.841
  • ON, AND REALLY WORK OUTHOW TO DO IT?"
  • 00:14:54.841 --> 00:14:56.743
  • HOW TO DO IT?"AND THE DEEPEST
  • 00:14:56.743 --> 00:14:57.210
  • AND THE DEEPESTANSWERS--THERE'S NO
  • 00:14:57.210 --> 00:14:58.244
  • ANSWERS--THERE'S NOQUESTION--ARE THE BIBLICAL
  • 00:14:58.244 --> 00:14:59.412
  • YOU CAN FIND MANY OF THEM
  • 00:15:00.647 --> 00:15:04.517
  • YOU CAN FIND MANY OF THEMIN EXODUS AND DEUTERONOMY,
  • 00:15:04.517 --> 00:15:05.085
  • IN EXODUS AND DEUTERONOMY,AND SO WE GOTTA THINK LIKE
  • 00:15:05.085 --> 00:15:06.152
  • AND SO WE GOTTA THINK LIKETHAT.
  • 00:15:06.152 --> 00:15:06.720
  • THAT.FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:07.253
  • FOR EXAMPLE,REINHOLD NIEBUHR OFTEN
  • 00:15:07.253 --> 00:15:08.221
  • REINHOLD NIEBUHR OFTENSAID, "THERE ARE TWO
  • 00:15:08.221 --> 00:15:09.322
  • SAID, "THERE ARE TWOBOOKENDS IN HISTORY:
  • 00:15:09.322 --> 00:15:10.724
  • BOOKENDS IN HISTORY:AUTHORITARIANISM,
  • 00:15:10.724 --> 00:15:12.325
  • AUTHORITARIANISM,ORDER WITH NO FREEDOM;
  • 00:15:12.325 --> 00:15:14.961
  • ORDER WITH NO FREEDOM;AND ANARCHY,
  • 00:15:14.961 --> 00:15:17.931
  • AND ANARCHY,FREEDOM WITH NO ORDER."
  • 00:15:17.931 --> 00:15:19.065
  • FREEDOM WITH NO ORDER."AMERICA USED TO HAVE
  • 00:15:19.065 --> 00:15:22.035
  • COVENANTAL CONSTITUTIONAL
  • 00:15:23.570 --> 00:15:24.871
  • COVENANTAL CONSTITUTIONALFREEDOM, AND THAT'S
  • 00:15:24.871 --> 00:15:26.873
  • FREEDOM, AND THAT'SCOLLAPSING.
  • 00:15:26.873 --> 00:15:27.607
  • COLLAPSING.SO YOU'VE GOT, ON ONE SIDE,
  • 00:15:27.607 --> 00:15:29.576
  • SO YOU'VE GOT, ON ONE SIDE,CHINA AS THE PROTOTYPE OF
  • 00:15:29.576 --> 00:15:32.012
  • CHINA AS THE PROTOTYPE OFAUTHORITARIANISM,
  • 00:15:32.012 --> 00:15:33.380
  • AUTHORITARIANISM,AND INCREASINGLY, AMERICA
  • 00:15:33.380 --> 00:15:36.282
  • NOT JUST BECAUSE OF RIOTS
  • 00:15:38.084 --> 00:15:39.719
  • NOT JUST BECAUSE OF RIOTSIN PORTLAND, BUT ALL SORTS
  • 00:15:39.719 --> 00:15:40.420
  • IN PORTLAND, BUT ALL SORTSOF THINGS, SAY, FAMILY
  • 00:15:40.420 --> 00:15:41.788
  • OF THINGS, SAY, FAMILYSTRUCTURES, AND SO ON, SO
  • 00:15:41.788 --> 00:15:43.623
  • STRUCTURES, AND SO ON, SOTHAT WE'RE AT A REALLY
  • 00:15:43.623 --> 00:15:45.759
  • THAT WE'RE AT A REALLYIMPORTANT TURNING POINT
  • 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:47.027
  • IMPORTANT TURNING POINTTODAY, AND WE GOTTA THINK,
  • 00:15:47.027 --> 00:15:48.061
  • TODAY, AND WE GOTTA THINK,FIRST, PRINCIPLES AND
  • 00:15:48.061 --> 00:15:50.096
  • FIRST, PRINCIPLES ANDSTAND FOR SOLID
  • 00:15:50.096 --> 00:15:51.264
  • STAND FOR SOLIDFOUNDATIONS AND SEE THEM
  • 00:15:51.264 --> 00:15:53.166
  • FOUNDATIONS AND SEE THEMWON BACK.
  • 00:15:53.166 --> 00:15:53.666
  • WON BACK.IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY
  • 00:15:53.666 --> 00:15:54.901
  • IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARYMOMENT.
  • 00:15:54.901 --> 00:15:55.435
  • MOMENT.- ERIC: MANY PEOPLE IN
  • 00:15:55.435 --> 00:15:56.569
  • - ERIC: MANY PEOPLE INTHE FAITH, PARTICULARLY
  • 00:15:56.569 --> 00:15:57.570
  • THE FAITH, PARTICULARLYPASTORS, HAVE SHRUNK FROM
  • 00:15:57.570 --> 00:15:59.672
  • PASTORS, HAVE SHRUNK FROMSPEAKING POLITICALLY,
  • 00:15:59.672 --> 00:16:00.540
  • SPEAKING POLITICALLY,THINKING SOMEHOW THAT
  • 00:16:00.540 --> 00:16:02.609
  • THINKING SOMEHOW THATPOLITICS CAN BE DIVORCED
  • 00:16:02.609 --> 00:16:04.310
  • POLITICS CAN BE DIVORCEDOR OUGHT TO BE DIVORCED
  • 00:16:04.310 --> 00:16:07.480
  • OR OUGHT TO BE DIVORCEDFROM OUR FAITH.
  • 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:08.314
  • FROM OUR FAITH.YOU AND I TAKE A DIFFERENT
  • 00:16:08.314 --> 00:16:10.316
  • YOU AND I TAKE A DIFFERENTVIEW.
  • 00:16:10.316 --> 00:16:11.451
  • VIEW.WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
  • 00:16:11.451 --> 00:16:12.285
  • WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TOPASTORS WHO SHRINK FROM
  • 00:16:12.285 --> 00:16:13.086
  • PASTORS WHO SHRINK FROMSPEAKING ABOUT SOME OF
  • 00:16:13.086 --> 00:16:14.954
  • SPEAKING ABOUT SOME OFTHESE THINGS?
  • 00:16:14.954 --> 00:16:16.156
  • THESE THINGS?- OS: WELL, THERE ARE TWO
  • 00:16:16.156 --> 00:16:18.224
  • - OS: WELL, THERE ARE TWOEXTREMES, BUT PARTICULARLY
  • 00:16:18.224 --> 00:16:20.660
  • EXTREMES, BUT PARTICULARLYEVANGELICALS HAVE GONE INTO.
  • 00:16:20.660 --> 00:16:21.494
  • EVANGELICALS HAVE GONE INTO.THE OLD EXTREME WAS
  • 00:16:21.494 --> 00:16:23.229
  • THE OLD EXTREME WASPRIVATIZATION.
  • 00:16:23.229 --> 00:16:25.265
  • PRIVATIZATION.THEODORE ROSZAK CRITIQUED
  • 00:16:25.265 --> 00:16:26.599
  • THEODORE ROSZAK CRITIQUEDTHAT IN THE '60s IN
  • 00:16:26.599 --> 00:16:27.434
  • THAT IN THE '60s INCALIFORNIA, PRIVATELY
  • 00:16:27.434 --> 00:16:28.134
  • CALIFORNIA, PRIVATELYENGAGING, PUBLICLY
  • 00:16:28.134 --> 00:16:31.871
  • ENGAGING, PUBLICLYRELEVANT.
  • 00:16:31.871 --> 00:16:32.439
  • RELEVANT.THAT IS NOT BEING SALT AND
  • 00:16:32.439 --> 00:16:33.973
  • AND IN THE REPUBLIC, EVERY
  • 00:16:35.542 --> 00:16:37.277
  • AND IN THE REPUBLIC, EVERYCITIZEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
  • 00:16:37.277 --> 00:16:39.045
  • CITIZEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOREVERYTHING.
  • 00:16:39.045 --> 00:16:39.979
  • EVERYTHING.THAT'S THE COVENANTAL
  • 00:16:39.979 --> 00:16:40.647
  • THAT'S THE COVENANTALIDEA, EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE
  • 00:16:40.647 --> 00:16:44.617
  • IDEA, EVERYONE RESPONSIBLEFOR EVERYONE.
  • 00:16:44.617 --> 00:16:45.051
  • FOR EVERYONE.THE OTHER EXTREME IS
  • 00:16:45.051 --> 00:16:47.287
  • TURNING EVERYTHING INTO
  • 00:16:48.655 --> 00:16:49.756
  • TURNING EVERYTHING INTOPOLITICAL ISSUES.
  • 00:16:49.756 --> 00:16:51.124
  • POLITICAL ISSUES.NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT
  • 00:16:51.124 --> 00:16:52.492
  • NOW, IF YOU LOOK ATTOPFIL, IN THE 1830s, HE
  • 00:16:52.492 --> 00:16:54.828
  • TOPFIL, IN THE 1830s, HEREMARKS THAT RELIGION,
  • 00:16:54.828 --> 00:16:56.729
  • REMARKS THAT RELIGION,WHICH MEANT BASICALLY THE
  • 00:16:56.729 --> 00:16:57.964
  • WHICH MEANT BASICALLY THECHRISTIAN FAITH, RELIGION
  • 00:16:57.964 --> 00:17:00.066
  • CHRISTIAN FAITH, RELIGIONWAS THE FIRST OF THE
  • 00:17:00.066 --> 00:17:03.670
  • WAS THE FIRST OF THEAMERICAN INSTITUTIONS, BUT
  • 00:17:03.670 --> 00:17:04.437
  • AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS, BUTNOT BECAUSE IT WAS
  • 00:17:04.437 --> 00:17:05.538
  • NOT BECAUSE IT WASESTABLISHED OR IMPOSED.
  • 00:17:05.538 --> 00:17:06.306
  • ESTABLISHED OR IMPOSED.IT WAS BOTTOM UP AND
  • 00:17:06.306 --> 00:17:08.241
  • IT WAS BOTTOM UP ANDINDIRECT.
  • 00:17:08.241 --> 00:17:09.342
  • INDIRECT.AND HE SAYS PASTORS DIDN'T
  • 00:17:09.342 --> 00:17:12.979
  • AND HE SAYS PASTORS DIDN'TPREACH POLITICS.
  • 00:17:12.979 --> 00:17:14.280
  • PREACH POLITICS.THEY PREACHED THE BIBLE,
  • 00:17:14.280 --> 00:17:15.982
  • THEY PREACHED THE BIBLE,AND THEN THE LAY PEOPLE
  • 00:17:15.982 --> 00:17:17.417
  • AND THEN THE LAY PEOPLELIVED OUT THE BIBLE
  • 00:17:17.417 --> 00:17:18.885
  • LIVED OUT THE BIBLEPOWERFULLY IN ALL THOSE
  • 00:17:18.885 --> 00:17:21.754
  • AND THE EFFECT WAS THEY
  • 00:17:23.289 --> 00:17:25.091
  • AND THE EFFECT WAS THEYWERE SALTY AND LIGHT
  • 00:17:25.091 --> 00:17:27.127
  • WERE SALTY AND LIGHTBEARING.
  • 00:17:27.127 --> 00:17:29.195
  • BEARING.SO PASTORS HAVE TO PREACH
  • 00:17:29.195 --> 00:17:30.763
  • SO PASTORS HAVE TO PREACHTHE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD
  • 00:17:30.763 --> 00:17:32.298
  • THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GODTODAY, BUT THAT COULDN'T
  • 00:17:32.298 --> 00:17:32.832
  • TODAY, BUT THAT COULDN'TBE MORE RELEVANT IF IT'S
  • 00:17:32.832 --> 00:17:33.266
  • BE MORE RELEVANT IF IT'SREALLY DONE WELL.
  • 00:17:33.266 --> 00:17:33.833
  • REALLY DONE WELL.WE DON'T NEED TO
  • 00:17:33.833 --> 00:17:34.601
  • WE DON'T NEED TOPOLITICIZE THINGS.
  • 00:17:34.601 --> 00:17:36.069
  • POLITICIZE THINGS.THE PASTOR IS NOT THERE TO
  • 00:17:36.069 --> 00:17:38.471
  • HOW TO VOTE, AND SO ON,
  • 00:17:39.439 --> 00:17:40.607
  • HOW TO VOTE, AND SO ON,BUT TO PREACH THE WHOLE
  • 00:17:40.607 --> 00:17:41.674
  • BUT TO PREACH THE WHOLECOUNSEL OF GOD AND LET THE
  • 00:17:41.674 --> 00:17:43.042
  • COUNSEL OF GOD AND LET THELAY PEOPLE LIVE IT OUT
  • 00:17:43.042 --> 00:17:44.878
  • LAY PEOPLE LIVE IT OUTACROSS THE WHOLE OF LIFE,
  • 00:17:44.878 --> 00:17:47.780
  • ACROSS THE WHOLE OF LIFE,INCLUDING OUR VOTING.
  • 00:17:47.780 --> 00:17:49.616
  • INCLUDING OUR VOTING.- ERIC: INCLUDING OUR VOTING.
  • 00:17:49.616 --> 00:17:50.350
  • - ERIC: INCLUDING OUR VOTING.YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT
  • 00:17:50.350 --> 00:17:52.485
  • YOU HAVE A, KIND OF, A
  • 00:17:56.022 --> 00:17:57.457
  • YOU HAVE A, KIND OF, APERFECT STORM OF AN
  • 00:17:57.457 --> 00:17:58.124
  • PERFECT STORM OF ANAMERICAN CITIZENRY THAT IS
  • 00:17:58.124 --> 00:17:59.192
  • AMERICAN CITIZENRY THAT ISREALLY IGNORANT OF OUR
  • 00:17:59.192 --> 00:18:00.460
  • REALLY IGNORANT OF OURHISTORY AND IGNORANT OF
  • 00:18:00.460 --> 00:18:01.528
  • HISTORY AND IGNORANT OFWHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN
  • 00:18:01.528 --> 00:18:05.131
  • WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ANAMERICAN, THE IDEA OF
  • 00:18:05.131 --> 00:18:06.599
  • AMERICAN, THE IDEA OFAMERICA.
  • 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:07.700
  • AMERICA.THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE
  • 00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:08.635
  • THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'VEEDUCATED ME ON, AND I HAVE
  • 00:18:08.635 --> 00:18:11.037
  • EDUCATED ME ON, AND I HAVETALKED ABOUT IT NONSTOP.
  • 00:18:11.037 --> 00:18:12.405
  • TALKED ABOUT IT NONSTOP.OS, YOU AND I WERE
  • 00:18:12.405 --> 00:18:14.841
  • OS, YOU AND I WERERECENTLY VILIFIED FOR
  • 00:18:14.841 --> 00:18:16.109
  • RECENTLY VILIFIED FORBEING SOME KIND OF
  • 00:18:16.109 --> 00:18:17.143
  • BEING SOME KIND OFCHRISTIAN NATIONALISTS OR
  • 00:18:17.143 --> 00:18:19.312
  • CHRISTIAN NATIONALISTS ORSOMETHING.
  • 00:18:19.312 --> 00:18:20.947
  • SOMETHING.YOU HAVE ALWAYS OPENLY
  • 00:18:20.947 --> 00:18:22.949
  • YOU HAVE ALWAYS OPENLYTALKED ABOUT THE BIBLICAL
  • 00:18:22.949 --> 00:18:25.852
  • TALKED ABOUT THE BIBLICALBASIS OF THE AMERICAN
  • 00:18:25.852 --> 00:18:27.453
  • BASIS OF THE AMERICANFOUNDING.
  • 00:18:27.453 --> 00:18:28.888
  • FOUNDING.YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT
  • 00:18:28.888 --> 00:18:29.923
  • YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ITUNASHAMEDLY.
  • 00:18:29.923 --> 00:18:30.857
  • UNASHAMEDLY.TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
  • 00:18:30.857 --> 00:18:31.357
  • TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUTTHAT SO THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:18:31.357 --> 00:18:32.492
  • THAT SO THAT PEOPLEUNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR
  • 00:18:32.492 --> 00:18:34.360
  • - OS: WELL, I ANSWER THAT
  • 00:18:35.895 --> 00:18:36.496
  • - OS: WELL, I ANSWER THATPRETTY ROBUSTLY 'CAUSE I
  • 00:18:36.496 --> 00:18:37.764
  • PRETTY ROBUSTLY 'CAUSE IMAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE
  • 00:18:37.764 --> 00:18:39.332
  • MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCEBETWEEN "PATRIOTISM,"
  • 00:18:39.332 --> 00:18:40.767
  • BETWEEN "PATRIOTISM,"WHICH IS A PROPER DEFENSE
  • 00:18:40.767 --> 00:18:43.002
  • WHICH IS A PROPER DEFENSEOF ONE'S COUNTRY, AND
  • 00:18:43.002 --> 00:18:45.438
  • OF ONE'S COUNTRY, AND"NATIONALISM," WHERE THE
  • 00:18:45.438 --> 00:18:46.639
  • "NATIONALISM," WHERE THECOUNTRY BECOMES GOD, RIGHT
  • 00:18:46.639 --> 00:18:48.675
  • COUNTRY BECOMES GOD, RIGHTOR WRONG.
  • 00:18:48.675 --> 00:18:49.442
  • OR WRONG.AND I THINK "NATIONALISM,"
  • 00:18:49.442 --> 00:18:50.643
  • AND I THINK "NATIONALISM,"BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, IS
  • 00:18:50.643 --> 00:18:52.979
  • BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, ISIDOLATRY.
  • 00:18:52.979 --> 00:18:54.414
  • IDOLATRY."PATRIOTISM" IS WONDERFUL,
  • 00:18:54.414 --> 00:18:55.682
  • "PATRIOTISM" IS WONDERFUL,BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN
  • 00:18:55.682 --> 00:18:57.150
  • BUT THERE ARE CERTAINPEOPLE NOW WHO BRAND
  • 00:18:57.150 --> 00:18:58.251
  • PEOPLE NOW WHO BRANDEVERYONE WHO STANDS UP FOR
  • 00:18:58.251 --> 00:19:00.887
  • EVERYONE WHO STANDS UP FORTHE COUNTRY AS NATIONALISTS,
  • 00:19:00.887 --> 00:19:01.354
  • THE COUNTRY AS NATIONALISTS,AND I THINK IT'S
  • 00:19:01.354 --> 00:19:04.791
  • AND I THINK IT'SDEAD WRONG.
  • 00:19:04.791 --> 00:19:05.658
  • DEAD WRONG.NOW, CLEARLY, AMERICA AND
  • 00:19:05.658 --> 00:19:06.426
  • NOW, CLEARLY, AMERICA ANDTHE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT
  • 00:19:06.426 --> 00:19:07.427
  • THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENTCAME OUT OF THE
  • 00:19:07.427 --> 00:19:09.762
  • CAME OUT OF THEREFORMATION.
  • 00:19:09.762 --> 00:19:12.665
  • REFORMATION.SO IT'S LARGELY ROOTED IN
  • 00:19:12.665 --> 00:19:14.934
  • SO IT'S LARGELY ROOTED INEXODUS AND DEUTERONOMY AND
  • 00:19:14.934 --> 00:19:18.404
  • EXODUS AND DEUTERONOMY ANDTHE TORAH.
  • 00:19:18.404 --> 00:19:18.905
  • THE TORAH.SO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION
  • 00:19:18.905 --> 00:19:20.974
  • SO THE U.S. CONSTITUTIONIS A NATIONALIZED,
  • 00:19:20.974 --> 00:19:22.809
  • IS A NATIONALIZED,SECULARIZED FORM OF COVENANT,
  • 00:19:22.809 --> 00:19:24.344
  • SECULARIZED FORM OF COVENANT,AND, ACTUALLY, TO REALLY
  • 00:19:24.344 --> 00:19:25.878
  • AND, ACTUALLY, TO REALLYUNDERSTAND THE GENIUS OF
  • 00:19:25.878 --> 00:19:26.980
  • UNDERSTAND THE GENIUS OFIT, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO
  • 00:19:26.980 --> 00:19:28.214
  • IT, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TOEXODUS ITSELF.
  • 00:19:28.214 --> 00:19:31.084
  • EXODUS ITSELF.BUT, OF COURSE, IN EXODUS,
  • 00:19:31.084 --> 00:19:34.454
  • BUT, OF COURSE, IN EXODUS,THERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT
  • 00:19:34.454 --> 00:19:36.589
  • THERE ARE VERY IMPORTANTTRUTHS THAT ARE TRUE BOTH
  • 00:19:36.589 --> 00:19:38.024
  • TRUTHS THAT ARE TRUE BOTHFOR FAITH, JEWISH FAITH,
  • 00:19:38.024 --> 00:19:39.125
  • FOR FAITH, JEWISH FAITH,CHRISTIAN FAITH, BUT ALSO
  • 00:19:39.125 --> 00:19:41.494
  • CHRISTIAN FAITH, BUT ALSOTRUE FOR FREEDOM.
  • 00:19:41.494 --> 00:19:42.695
  • TRUE FOR FREEDOM.SO YOU MENTIONED, IN
  • 00:19:42.695 --> 00:19:43.830
  • SO YOU MENTIONED, INPASSING, THE IDEA OF
  • 00:19:43.830 --> 00:19:45.932
  • PASSING, THE IDEA OFTRANSMISSION.
  • 00:19:45.932 --> 00:19:47.867
  • TRANSMISSION.RABBI SACKS PUTS IT LIKE
  • 00:19:47.867 --> 00:19:49.135
  • RABBI SACKS PUTS IT LIKETHIS: "IF YOU HAVE ANY
  • 00:19:49.135 --> 00:19:50.503
  • THIS: "IF YOU HAVE ANYPROJECT THAT LASTS MORE
  • 00:19:50.503 --> 00:19:54.574
  • PROJECT THAT LASTS MORETHAN A SINGLE GENERATION,
  • 00:19:54.574 --> 00:19:57.410
  • THAN A SINGLE GENERATION,YOU HAVE TO HAVE HISTORY
  • 00:19:57.410 --> 00:19:58.278
  • AND HE POINTS OUT--WHAT
  • 00:19:59.646 --> 00:20:00.580
  • AND HE POINTS OUT--WHATDID MOSES TALK ABOUT THE
  • 00:20:00.580 --> 00:20:01.447
  • DID MOSES TALK ABOUT THENIGHT OF THE PASSOVER?
  • 00:20:01.447 --> 00:20:02.448
  • NIGHT OF THE PASSOVER?THEY'RE GONNA BECOME FREE.
  • 00:20:02.448 --> 00:20:03.950
  • THEY'RE GONNA BECOME FREE.BUT HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
  • 00:20:03.950 --> 00:20:06.119
  • BUT HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUTFREEDOM.
  • 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:06.653
  • FREEDOM.THEY'RE GOING TO THE
  • 00:20:06.653 --> 00:20:07.954
  • THEY'RE GOING TO THEPROMISED LAND OF MILK AND
  • 00:20:07.954 --> 00:20:08.588
  • PROMISED LAND OF MILK ANDHONEY, BUT HE DIDN'T TALK
  • 00:20:08.588 --> 00:20:10.456
  • HONEY, BUT HE DIDN'T TALKABOUT THE PROMISED LAND.
  • 00:20:10.456 --> 00:20:12.225
  • ABOUT THE PROMISED LAND.HE TALKED THREE TIMES
  • 00:20:12.225 --> 00:20:15.295
  • HE TALKED THREE TIMESABOUT CHILDREN.
  • 00:20:15.295 --> 00:20:16.462
  • ABOUT CHILDREN.'CAUSE FAITH AND FREEDOM
  • 00:20:16.462 --> 00:20:17.630
  • 'CAUSE FAITH AND FREEDOMARE NEVER STRONGER THAN
  • 00:20:17.630 --> 00:20:19.999
  • ARE NEVER STRONGER THANWHEN THEY'RE ALIVE IN THE
  • 00:20:19.999 --> 00:20:21.134
  • WHEN THEY'RE ALIVE IN THEHEARTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
  • 00:20:21.134 --> 00:20:24.170
  • HEARTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.AND, OF COURSE, '60s
  • 00:20:24.170 --> 00:20:25.204
  • AND, OF COURSE, '60sAGAIN, AMERICA THREW OUT
  • 00:20:25.204 --> 00:20:26.005
  • AGAIN, AMERICA THREW OUTCIVIC EDUCATION, AND BOOKS
  • 00:20:26.005 --> 00:20:28.308
  • CIVIC EDUCATION, AND BOOKSCAME IN LIKE
  • 00:20:28.308 --> 00:20:29.509
  • CAME IN LIKEHOWARD ZINN'S,
  • 00:20:29.509 --> 00:20:31.010
  • HOWARD ZINN'S,ANTI-AMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:20:31.010 --> 00:20:31.544
  • ANTI-AMERICAN HISTORY.THEY THREW OUT CIVIC
  • 00:20:31.544 --> 00:20:33.780
  • THEY THREW OUT CIVICEDUCATION AT THE END OF
  • 00:20:33.780 --> 00:20:34.480
  • SO THERE'S NO
  • 00:20:35.715 --> 00:20:37.050
  • SO THERE'S NOTRANSMISSION.
  • 00:20:37.050 --> 00:20:38.051
  • TRANSMISSION.AND AS RONALD REAGAN SAID
  • 00:20:38.051 --> 00:20:39.485
  • AND AS RONALD REAGAN SAIDMANY, MANY TIMES, "FREEDOM
  • 00:20:39.485 --> 00:20:40.753
  • MANY, MANY TIMES, "FREEDOMIS ALWAYS ONE GENERATION
  • 00:20:40.753 --> 00:20:44.657
  • IS ALWAYS ONE GENERATIONAWAY FROM DYING."
  • 00:20:44.657 --> 00:20:45.391
  • AWAY FROM DYING."AND THAT'S CRAZY, SO WE'VE
  • 00:20:45.391 --> 00:20:45.925
  • AND THAT'S CRAZY, SO WE'VEGOTTA HAVE A RECOVERY OF
  • 00:20:45.925 --> 00:20:49.395
  • GOTTA HAVE A RECOVERY OFTRANSMISSION, BOTH IN THE
  • 00:20:49.395 --> 00:20:50.463
  • TRANSMISSION, BOTH IN THECHURCH, INCIDENTALLY, BUT
  • 00:20:50.463 --> 00:20:50.997
  • CHURCH, INCIDENTALLY, BUTALSO IN AMERICAN PUBLIC
  • 00:20:50.997 --> 00:20:53.566
  • ALSO IN AMERICAN PUBLICSCHOOLING.
  • 00:20:53.566 --> 00:20:54.133
  • SCHOOLING.- ERIC: HOW DO YOU SEE US
  • 00:20:54.133 --> 00:20:54.901
  • - ERIC: HOW DO YOU SEE USGOING FORWARD FROM WHAT IS
  • 00:20:54.901 --> 00:20:57.603
  • GOING FORWARD FROM WHAT ISCLEARLY AN INFLECTION
  • 00:20:57.603 --> 00:20:58.738
  • CLEARLY AN INFLECTIONPOINT, AN EXISTENTIAL
  • 00:20:58.738 --> 00:21:00.640
  • POINT, AN EXISTENTIALCRISIS IN THE REPUBLIC?
  • 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:01.240
  • CRISIS IN THE REPUBLIC?- OS: WELL, AS YOU KNOW,
  • 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:02.642
  • - OS: WELL, AS YOU KNOW,ERIC, I'VE BEEN HERE IN
  • 00:21:02.642 --> 00:21:03.843
  • ERIC, I'VE BEEN HERE INTHIS COUNTRY 30 YEARS, AND
  • 00:21:03.843 --> 00:21:05.211
  • THIS COUNTRY 30 YEARS, ANDI'VE BEEN, AS A FOREIGNER,
  • 00:21:05.211 --> 00:21:07.914
  • I'VE BEEN, AS A FOREIGNER,DELIBERATELY BIPARTISAN,
  • 00:21:07.914 --> 00:21:08.748
  • DELIBERATELY BIPARTISAN,NONPARTISAN--I NEVER TELL
  • 00:21:08.748 --> 00:21:10.516
  • NONPARTISAN--I NEVER TELLPEOPLE HOW TO VOTE.
  • 00:21:10.516 --> 00:21:11.217
  • PEOPLE HOW TO VOTE.BUT, FOR ME, IT'S PRETTY
  • 00:21:11.217 --> 00:21:11.818
  • BUT, FOR ME, IT'S PRETTYOBVIOUS.
  • 00:21:11.818 --> 00:21:13.052
  • OBVIOUS.THE FIRST CHALLENGE OF
  • 00:21:13.052 --> 00:21:14.821
  • THE FIRST CHALLENGE OFLEADERSHIP: DEFINE
  • 00:21:14.821 --> 00:21:17.223
  • LEADERSHIP: DEFINEREALITY.
  • 00:21:17.223 --> 00:21:18.324
  • REALITY.AND ANYONE WHO SEES THE
  • 00:21:18.324 --> 00:21:19.826
  • AND ANYONE WHO SEES THEREALITY OF WHERE WE ARE
  • 00:21:19.826 --> 00:21:21.494
  • REALITY OF WHERE WE ARETODAY, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY
  • 00:21:21.494 --> 00:21:23.763
  • TODAY, IT SHOULD BE PRETTYOBVIOUS WHAT TO STAND FOR,
  • 00:21:23.763 --> 00:21:26.099
  • OBVIOUS WHAT TO STAND FOR,AND WHAT TO STAND AGAINST,
  • 00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:26.599
  • AND WHAT TO STAND AGAINST,BUT LET ME JUST SAY ONE
  • 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:28.067
  • BUT LET ME JUST SAY ONETHING ABOUT WHERE YOU
  • 00:21:28.067 --> 00:21:28.801
  • THING ABOUT WHERE YOUMENTIONED THE ATTACKS ON
  • 00:21:28.801 --> 00:21:30.536
  • MENTIONED THE ATTACKS ONTHE PRESIDENT.
  • 00:21:30.536 --> 00:21:31.571
  • THE PRESIDENT.THE LEVEL OF HATRED AND
  • 00:21:31.571 --> 00:21:32.271
  • THE LEVEL OF HATRED ANDTHE LEVEL OF
  • 00:21:32.271 --> 00:21:33.373
  • THE LEVEL OFANIMOSITY--AND WHEN I LOOK
  • 00:21:33.373 --> 00:21:34.941
  • ANIMOSITY--AND WHEN I LOOKIN THE EYES, SAY, OF
  • 00:21:34.941 --> 00:21:35.908
  • IN THE EYES, SAY, OFSPEAKER PELOSI, WHEN SHE
  • 00:21:35.908 --> 00:21:37.343
  • SPEAKER PELOSI, WHEN SHESAYS SOME OF THESE
  • 00:21:37.343 --> 00:21:40.413
  • SAYS SOME OF THESEOUTRAGEOUS THINGS, THE
  • 00:21:40.413 --> 00:21:43.182
  • OUTRAGEOUS THINGS, THEFURIES HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED.
  • 00:21:43.182 --> 00:21:45.017
  • FURIES HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED.THIS IS NOW BEYOND
  • 00:21:45.017 --> 00:21:45.885
  • THIS IS NOW BEYONDPOLITICS AND BEYOND THE
  • 00:21:45.885 --> 00:21:47.620
  • YOU KNOW, FOR THE GREEKS,
  • 00:21:48.688 --> 00:21:50.690
  • YOU KNOW, FOR THE GREEKS,AS YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS
  • 00:21:50.690 --> 00:21:53.092
  • AS YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WASTHAT DEMOCRACY, ATHENA,
  • 00:21:53.092 --> 00:21:54.761
  • THAT DEMOCRACY, ATHENA,REASON, APOLLO, WOULD BE THE
  • 00:21:54.761 --> 00:21:56.329
  • REASON, APOLLO, WOULD BE THEANSWER TO THE FURIES.
  • 00:21:56.329 --> 00:22:00.366
  • ANSWER TO THE FURIES.YOU SEE THAT IN HUMANITIES.
  • 00:22:00.366 --> 00:22:00.900
  • YOU SEE THAT IN HUMANITIES.WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS
  • 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:01.901
  • WHAT WE'RE SEEING ISDEMOCRACY BREAKING DOWN
  • 00:22:01.901 --> 00:22:03.136
  • DEMOCRACY BREAKING DOWNAND BECOMING WHAT THE
  • 00:22:03.136 --> 00:22:06.873
  • AND BECOMING WHAT THEGREEKS FEARED--MOB RULE.
  • 00:22:06.873 --> 00:22:07.407
  • GREEKS FEARED--MOB RULE.IN OTHER WORDS, WE GOTTA
  • 00:22:07.407 --> 00:22:08.374
  • IN OTHER WORDS, WE GOTTASEE THIS IS BEYOND
  • 00:22:08.374 --> 00:22:10.143
  • THIS IS BEYOND PURELY
  • 00:22:11.177 --> 00:22:12.578
  • THIS IS BEYOND PURELYPSYCHOLOGICAL NOW.
  • 00:22:12.578 --> 00:22:15.214
  • PSYCHOLOGICAL NOW.WE ARE SEEING THINGS THAT
  • 00:22:15.214 --> 00:22:16.416
  • WE ARE SEEING THINGS THATNEED TO BE COMBATTED WITH
  • 00:22:16.416 --> 00:22:16.949
  • NEED TO BE COMBATTED WITHSPIRITUAL, SUPERNATURAL
  • 00:22:16.949 --> 00:22:19.185
  • SPIRITUAL, SUPERNATURALWARFARE.
  • 00:22:19.185 --> 00:22:20.953
  • WARFARE.WE ARE DEALING WITH, YOU
  • 00:22:20.953 --> 00:22:22.255
  • WE ARE DEALING WITH, YOUKNOW, WHAT THE BOOK OF
  • 00:22:22.255 --> 00:22:23.389
  • KNOW, WHAT THE BOOK OFDANIEL CALLS "THE ANGEL
  • 00:22:23.389 --> 00:22:25.591
  • DANIEL CALLS "THE ANGELPRINCES" OF SOME OF THE
  • 00:22:25.591 --> 00:22:26.993
  • PRINCES" OF SOME OF THEFORCES OF NATIONS AND
  • 00:22:26.993 --> 00:22:28.428
  • FORCES OF NATIONS ANDDARKNESS.
  • 00:22:28.428 --> 00:22:29.762
  • DARKNESS.THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS
  • 00:22:29.762 --> 00:22:30.897
  • THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUSTIME.
  • 00:22:30.897 --> 00:22:31.798
  • TIME.WE GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:22:31.798 --> 00:22:34.066
  • WE GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE WHOPRAY AS WELL AS KNOW HOW
  • 00:22:34.066 --> 00:22:35.168
  • PRAY AS WELL AS KNOW HOWTO VOTE.
  • 00:22:35.168 --> 00:22:36.235
  • TO VOTE.- ERIC: I DO THINK THAT
  • 00:22:36.235 --> 00:22:40.940
  • - ERIC: I DO THINK THATWE NEED REVIVAL.
  • 00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:41.474
  • WE NEED REVIVAL.I MEAN, IT'S EASY TO SAY
  • 00:22:41.474 --> 00:22:42.675
  • I MEAN, IT'S EASY TO SAYTHAT AT ANY TIME, BUT IT
  • 00:22:42.675 --> 00:22:44.410
  • THAT AT ANY TIME, BUT ITDOES SEEM NOW THAT WE'RE
  • 00:22:44.410 --> 00:22:47.180
  • THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE
  • 00:22:49.182 --> 00:22:50.950
  • THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE AWAREOF THE DEPTHS TO WHICH
  • 00:22:50.950 --> 00:22:53.820
  • OF THE DEPTHS TO WHICHWE'VE COME AS A CULTURE.
  • 00:22:53.820 --> 00:22:55.288
  • WE'VE COME AS A CULTURE.THE CANCEL CULTURE--YOU
  • 00:22:55.288 --> 00:22:56.656
  • THE CANCEL CULTURE--YOUALLUDED TO IT--THE
  • 00:22:56.656 --> 00:22:57.557
  • ALLUDED TO IT--THEVILIFICATION OF PEOPLE,
  • 00:22:57.557 --> 00:22:59.592
  • VILIFICATION OF PEOPLE,THE PERSONALIZATION OF
  • 00:22:59.592 --> 00:23:01.661
  • THE PERSONALIZATION OFHATRED, I MEAN, EVEN WHEN
  • 00:23:01.661 --> 00:23:02.895
  • HATRED, I MEAN, EVEN WHENI READ THE ARTICLE THAT
  • 00:23:02.895 --> 00:23:05.531
  • I READ THE ARTICLE THATWAS COMING AFTER YOU, YOU
  • 00:23:05.531 --> 00:23:06.933
  • WAS COMING AFTER YOU, YOUANSWERED IT BEAUTIFULLY,
  • 00:23:06.933 --> 00:23:09.168
  • ANSWERED IT BEAUTIFULLY,BUT, YOU KNOW, TO CALL YOU
  • 00:23:09.168 --> 00:23:11.137
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, TO CALL YOUA CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST OR
  • 00:23:11.137 --> 00:23:12.505
  • A CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST ORA WHITE
  • 00:23:12.505 --> 00:23:14.173
  • A WHITENATIONALIST--PEOPLE HAVE
  • 00:23:14.173 --> 00:23:16.476
  • NATIONALIST--PEOPLE HAVECALLED ME THAT--I THINK TO
  • 00:23:16.476 --> 00:23:18.244
  • CALLED ME THAT--I THINK TOMYSELF, "THINGS HAVE
  • 00:23:18.244 --> 00:23:19.645
  • MYSELF, "THINGS HAVEREALLY BROKEN DOWN WHEN
  • 00:23:19.645 --> 00:23:20.646
  • REALLY BROKEN DOWN WHENTHAT'S ALL THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:23:20.646 --> 00:23:23.683
  • THAT'S ALL THAT PEOPLEHAVE.
  • 00:23:23.683 --> 00:23:24.650
  • HAVE.THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY
  • 00:23:24.650 --> 00:23:25.184
  • THEY'RE EFFECTIVELYCALLING YOU A RACIST OR A
  • 00:23:25.184 --> 00:23:26.586
  • CALLING YOU A RACIST OR ATRIBALIST OR SOMETHING
  • 00:23:26.586 --> 00:23:27.119
  • TRIBALIST OR SOMETHINGLIKE THAT, OR A HYPOCRITE.
  • 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.822
  • LIKE THAT, OR A HYPOCRITE.THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE
  • 00:23:29.822 --> 00:23:30.389
  • THEY DON'T SEEM TO BEINTERESTED, REALLY, IN THE
  • 00:23:30.389 --> 00:23:33.192
  • INTERESTED, REALLY, IN THETRUTH.
  • 00:23:33.192 --> 00:23:35.761
  • TRUTH.SO I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL
  • 00:23:35.761 --> 00:23:36.796
  • SO I'M JUST SO GRATEFULFOR YOUR VOICE, OS, AND
  • 00:23:36.796 --> 00:23:37.730
  • FOR YOUR VOICE, OS, ANDWE'VE GOTTA HAVE YOU BACK
  • 00:23:37.730 --> 00:23:38.598
  • WE'VE GOTTA HAVE YOU BACKTO CONTINUE THIS
  • 00:23:38.598 --> 00:23:39.699
  • TO CONTINUE THISPARTICULAR CONVERSATION,
  • 00:23:39.699 --> 00:23:40.967
  • PARTICULAR CONVERSATION,REALLY, I THINK, BUT I
  • 00:23:40.967 --> 00:23:42.134
  • REALLY, I THINK, BUT IWANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS
  • 00:23:42.134 --> 00:23:43.636
  • WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONSON THE REISSUE OF THE BOOK
  • 00:23:43.636 --> 00:23:46.072
  • ON THE REISSUE OF THE BOOK"THE DUST OF DEATH."
  • 00:23:46.072 --> 00:23:46.639
  • "THE DUST OF DEATH."I HOPE PEOPLE WILL PICK UP
  • 00:23:46.639 --> 00:23:49.375
  • I HOPE PEOPLE WILL PICK UPA COPY.
  • 00:23:49.375 --> 00:23:50.009
  • A COPY.THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
  • 00:23:50.009 --> 00:23:51.010
  • THANKS FOR YOUR TIMETODAY.
  • 00:23:51.010 --> 00:23:51.677
  • TODAY.GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.
  • 00:23:51.677 --> 00:23:52.178
  • GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.- OS: THANKS FOR HAVING
  • 00:23:52.178 --> 00:23:52.612
  • - OS: THANKS FOR HAVINGME.
  • 00:23:52.612 --> 00:23:55.548
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  • ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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