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♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪MATT HAGEE: IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN
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MATT HAGEE: IF YOU HAVEN'T BEENAFFECTED BY ADDICTION,
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AFFECTED BY ADDICTION,YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS.
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YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS.FIND HOPE NEXT ON
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FIND HOPE NEXT ON"THE DIFFERENCE."
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"THE DIFFERENCE."♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪MATT HAGEE: GOD'S WORD SAYS
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MATT HAGEE: GOD'S WORD SAYSTHAT WHEN WE ARE WEAK,
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THAT WHEN WE ARE WEAK,HE IS STRONG.
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HE IS STRONG.AND WHOM THE SON SETS FREE
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AND WHOM THE SON SETS FREEIS FREE INDEED.
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IS FREE INDEED.NO MATTER THE ADDICTION
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NO MATTER THE ADDICTIONTHAT YOU'RE FACING,
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THAT YOU'RE FACING,NO MATTER THE BONDAGE THAT YOU
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NO MATTER THE BONDAGE THAT YOUFEEL LIKE YOU MAY BE IN,
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FEEL LIKE YOU MAY BE IN,I ASSURE YOU;
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I ASSURE YOU;GOD HAS THE POWER TO BREAK
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GOD HAS THE POWER TO BREAKTHOSE CHAINS
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THOSE CHAINSAND MAKE ALL THINGS NEW.
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AND MAKE ALL THINGS NEW.ON TODAY'S SHOW,
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ON TODAY'S SHOW,WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING
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WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKINGWITH ROB KOKE,
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WITH ROB KOKE,PASTOR OF SHORELINE CHURCH;
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PASTOR OF SHORELINE CHURCH;AND HIS DAUGHTER, DANIELLE,
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AND HIS DAUGHTER, DANIELLE,AS THEY SHARE THEIR FAMILY'S
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AS THEY SHARE THEIR FAMILY'SJOURNEY FROM ADDICTION
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JOURNEY FROM ADDICTIONTO RECOVERY AND EVEN INTO
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TO RECOVERY AND EVEN INTOA LIFE OF VICTORY.
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A LIFE OF VICTORY.♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪MATT HAGEE: WE'RE HERE
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MATT HAGEE: WE'RE HEREWITH CO-AUTHORS,
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WITH CO-AUTHORS,FATHER AND DAUGHTER,
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FATHER AND DAUGHTER,ROB KOKE AND HIS DAUGHTER,
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ROB KOKE AND HIS DAUGHTER,DANIELLE KOKE-GERMAIN.
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DANIELLE KOKE-GERMAIN.DANIELLE,
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DANIELLE,THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.DANIELLE KOKE: THANK YOU.
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DANIELLE KOKE: THANK YOU.MATT HAGEE: PASTOR ROB,
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MATT HAGEE: PASTOR ROB,IT'S A PLEASURE.
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IT'S A PLEASURE.ROB KOKE: PASTOR MATT.
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ROB KOKE: PASTOR MATT.MATT HAGEE: NOW,
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MATT HAGEE: NOW,FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOUR BOOK,
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FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOUR BOOK,"PRODIGAL DAUGHTER."
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"PRODIGAL DAUGHTER."FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN
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FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEENIN CHURCH,
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IN CHURCH,THE PRODIGAL SON'S A FAMILIAR
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THE PRODIGAL SON'S A FAMILIARSTORY.
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STORY.AND SO IMMEDIATELY THEY WOULD
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AND SO IMMEDIATELY THEY WOULDBEGIN TO -- TO DRAW THEIR OWN
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BEGIN TO -- TO DRAW THEIR OWNCONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S INSIDE
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CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S INSIDETHE BOOK.
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THE BOOK.THE THING THAT I THINK
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THE THING THAT I THINKIS VERY TELLING IS HOW
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IS VERY TELLING IS HOWTRANSPARENT YOU ARE,
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TRANSPARENT YOU ARE,AS PASTORS,
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AS PASTORS,AS CHURCH LEADERS.
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AS CHURCH LEADERS.YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS
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YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGSTHAT MAYBE SOCIETY, CULTURE,
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THAT MAYBE SOCIETY, CULTURE,JUST OUR OWN HUMANITY,
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JUST OUR OWN HUMANITY,SAYS IS, YOU KNOW,
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SAYS IS, YOU KNOW,"KEEP ALL OF THE DIFFICULTIES
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"KEEP ALL OF THE DIFFICULTIESAND YOUR PASTOR OR IN PERSONAL
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AND YOUR PASTOR OR IN PERSONALLIFE SEPARATE," YOU KNOW?
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LIFE SEPARATE," YOU KNOW?AND YET, WITH THIS TITLE,
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AND YET, WITH THIS TITLE,WITH EVEN THE BOOK COVER,
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WITH EVEN THE BOOK COVER,YOU'VE GOT A PILL FOR THE "O,"
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YOU'VE GOT A PILL FOR THE "O,"YOU KNOW?
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YOU KNOW?YOU'RE COMING RIGHT OUT
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YOU'RE COMING RIGHT OUTIN FRONT, AND SAYING,
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IN FRONT, AND SAYING,HERE'S THE REALITY
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HERE'S THE REALITYOF OUR SITUATION.
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OF OUR SITUATION.WHAT PROMPTED YOU TO BE
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WHAT PROMPTED YOU TO BESO TRANSPARENT IN THE WRITING
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SO TRANSPARENT IN THE WRITINGOF THIS BOOK?
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OF THIS BOOK?ROB KOKE: UM,
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ROB KOKE: UM,TO BE TOTALLY HONEST,
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TO BE TOTALLY HONEST,DANIELLE HAD A BIG PART TO PLAY
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DANIELLE HAD A BIG PART TO PLAYIN HOW THAT UNFOLDED.
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IN HOW THAT UNFOLDED.I TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
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I TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT MOREPRIVATE, TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.
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PRIVATE, TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.AND I WOULD --
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AND I WOULD --MATT HAGEE: IT'S OUR NATURE.
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MATT HAGEE: IT'S OUR NATURE.ROB KOKE: I WOULD PROBABLY
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ROB KOKE: I WOULD PROBABLYHAVE WANTED TO SHAPE THINGS
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HAVE WANTED TO SHAPE THINGSAND CRAFT, YOU KNOW, THE STORY,
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AND CRAFT, YOU KNOW, THE STORY,AND MINIMIZE ITS IMPACT,
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AND MINIMIZE ITS IMPACT,AND JUST KIND OF CREATE
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AND JUST KIND OF CREATEAN ILLUSION PERHAPS OF STRENGTH
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AN ILLUSION PERHAPS OF STRENGTHAND VICTORY IN MY OWN LIFE,
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AND VICTORY IN MY OWN LIFE,AND ALL OF THAT.
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AND ALL OF THAT.UH, BUT DANIELLE IS A PART
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UH, BUT DANIELLE IS A PARTOF A DIFFERENT GENERATION
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OF A DIFFERENT GENERATIONMAYBE EVEN,
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MAYBE EVEN,BUT ALSO HER PERSONALITY
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BUT ALSO HER PERSONALITYAND HER MAKEUP,
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AND HER MAKEUP,SHE'S JUST REAL AND HONEST,
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SHE'S JUST REAL AND HONEST,AND FORTHRIGHT.
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AND FORTHRIGHT.AND SHE WANTED TO TELL
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AND SHE WANTED TO TELLTHE STORY.
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THE STORY.IT WAS REALLY HER INSPIRATION.
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IT WAS REALLY HER INSPIRATION.AND SO PART OF IT CAME OUT OF
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AND SO PART OF IT CAME OUT OFA SERMON SERIES AFTER WE HAD
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A SERMON SERIES AFTER WE HADKIND OF PROCESSED THROUGH THIS.
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KIND OF PROCESSED THROUGH THIS.WE DID WANT TO HELP AS MANY
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WE DID WANT TO HELP AS MANYPEOPLE AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.
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PEOPLE AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.AND SO WE WERE DOING A SERIES
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AND SO WE WERE DOING A SERIESOF MESSAGES ON RECOVERY.
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OF MESSAGES ON RECOVERY.AND OUR CREATIVE TEAM -- AND WE
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AND OUR CREATIVE TEAM -- AND WEPASTOR A LARGE CHURCH JUST
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PASTOR A LARGE CHURCH JUSTLIKE YOU GUYS.
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LIKE YOU GUYS.I MEAN IT'S UH -- IT'S BEEN AN
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I MEAN IT'S UH -- IT'S BEEN ANAMAZING PRIVILEGE AND JOURNEY
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AMAZING PRIVILEGE AND JOURNEYTO BE A PART OF THAT.
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TO BE A PART OF THAT.BUT OUR CREATIVE TEAM WANTED
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BUT OUR CREATIVE TEAM WANTEDTO KIND OF ADD THIS DYNAMIC
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TO KIND OF ADD THIS DYNAMICPERHAPS OF AN ADDICT
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PERHAPS OF AN ADDICTTELLING HER STORY.
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TELLING HER STORY.AND DANIELLE VOLUNTEERED.
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AND DANIELLE VOLUNTEERED.SHE SAID,
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SHE SAID,"I WANT TO BE THAT VOICE."
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"I WANT TO BE THAT VOICE."AND SO WE HAD THIS KIND OF
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AND SO WE HAD THIS KIND OFBLACK SCREEN
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BLACK SCREENWHERE YOU COULDN'T TELL
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WHERE YOU COULDN'T TELLWHO IT WAS;
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WHO IT WAS;IT WAS JUST A VOICE.
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IT WAS JUST A VOICE.MATT HAGEE: AND THE PASTOR
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MATT HAGEE: AND THE PASTORAND DAD IN YOU WAS LIKE,
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AND DAD IN YOU WAS LIKE,"WELL HANG ON.
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"WELL HANG ON.WE NEED TO TALK THROUGH THIS."
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WE NEED TO TALK THROUGH THIS."ROB KOKE: BIG TIME; YOU KNOW?
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ROB KOKE: BIG TIME; YOU KNOW?BUT UM -- AND THEN AT THE END
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BUT UM -- AND THEN AT THE ENDOF THE SERIES,
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OF THE SERIES,WE REVEALED THAT PERSON TO BE
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WE REVEALED THAT PERSON TO BEOUR DAUGHTER.
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OUR DAUGHTER.AND THERE WERE SOME
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AND THERE WERE SOMEWHO WOULD RECOGNIZE HER VOICE
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WHO WOULD RECOGNIZE HER VOICETHAT WERE IN THE INNER CIRCLE.
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THAT WERE IN THE INNER CIRCLE.BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE THOUSANDS
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BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE THOUSANDSOF PEOPLE WHO ATTEND
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OF PEOPLE WHO ATTENDAND SO MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW
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AND SO MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOWAND DIDN'T MAKE THAT CONNECTION
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AND DIDN'T MAKE THAT CONNECTIONUNTIL THE VERY END.
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UNTIL THE VERY END.BUT IT WAS REALLY
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BUT IT WAS REALLYSUPER POWERFUL WHAT HAPPENED.
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SUPER POWERFUL WHAT HAPPENED.YOU KNOW PEOPLE DON'T RELATE TO
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YOU KNOW PEOPLE DON'T RELATE TOSUCCESS AS MUCH AS THEY RELATE
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SUCCESS AS MUCH AS THEY RELATETO SUFFERING AND TO HEARTACHE
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TO SUFFERING AND TO HEARTACHEAND PAIN.
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AND PAIN.AND SO UM,
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AND SO UM,BEING AS OPEN AS WE WERE
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BEING AS OPEN AS WE WEREABOUT IT,
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ABOUT IT,GAVE PERMISSION FROM EVERY --
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GAVE PERMISSION FROM EVERY --FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR CHURCH
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FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR CHURCHTO UM,
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TO UM,TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES
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TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUESTHAT THEY HAVE.
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THAT THEY HAVE.AND ALL OF US HAVE ISSUES.
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AND ALL OF US HAVE ISSUES.MATT HAGEE: AND NOT ONLY IS
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MATT HAGEE: AND NOT ONLY ISTHE REALITY OF THE SITUATION
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THE REALITY OF THE SITUATIONAND THE OUTCOME OF IT
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AND THE OUTCOME OF ITSOMETHING THAT IS A MESSAGE
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SOMETHING THAT IS A MESSAGEOF ENCOURAGEMENT,
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OF ENCOURAGEMENT,BUT IT'S REALLY THE BIBLICAL
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BUT IT'S REALLY THE BIBLICALMANDATE OF,
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MANDATE OF,"THEY OVERCAME HIM BY THE BLOOD
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"THEY OVERCAME HIM BY THE BLOODOF THE LAMB AND THE WORD
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OF THE LAMB AND THE WORDOF THEIR TESTIMONIES."
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OF THEIR TESTIMONIES."ROB KOKE: YES.
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ROB KOKE: YES.MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW THE BLOOD
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MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW THE BLOODOF JESUS CHRIST IS OUR VICTORY.
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OF JESUS CHRIST IS OUR VICTORY.THE WORD OF OUR TESTIMONY
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THE WORD OF OUR TESTIMONYIS WHAT HE RESCUED US FROM.
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IS WHAT HE RESCUED US FROM.ROB KOKE: YES.
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ROB KOKE: YES.MATT HAGEE: AND YOU KNOW I
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MATT HAGEE: AND YOU KNOW ITHINK THAT THERE'S A GENERATION
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THINK THAT THERE'S A GENERATIONTHAT THEY'RE A LITTLE WORN OUT
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THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE WORN OUTWITH PEOPLE WHO WERE
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WITH PEOPLE WHO WEREALMOST PERFECT,
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ALMOST PERFECT,GETTING JUST A LITTLE MORE
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GETTING JUST A LITTLE MOREPERFECT WHENEVER THEY MET
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PERFECT WHENEVER THEY METJESUS.
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JESUS.ROB KOKE: RIGHT.
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ROB KOKE: RIGHT.MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW?
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MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW?INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WHO SAY,
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INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WHO SAY,"LOOK; HUMANITY AND LIFE
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"LOOK; HUMANITY AND LIFEAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES
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AND THE CIRCUMSTANCESTHAT I FACED
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THAT I FACEDWERE MORE THAN I COULD TAKE,
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WERE MORE THAN I COULD TAKE,AND JESUS HELPED ME OVERCOME
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AND JESUS HELPED ME OVERCOMETHOSE THINGS IN WAYS THAT I
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THOSE THINGS IN WAYS THAT INEVER COULD."
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NEVER COULD."NOW SOMEBODY GOES,
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NOW SOMEBODY GOES,"I CAN RELATE TO THAT,"
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"I CAN RELATE TO THAT,"YOU KNOW?
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YOU KNOW?ROB KOKE: YEAH.
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ROB KOKE: YEAH.MATT HAGEE: AND SO DANIELLE,
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MATT HAGEE: AND SO DANIELLE,WHEN YOU STEPPED FORWARD
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WHEN YOU STEPPED FORWARDTO TELL THE STORY,
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TO TELL THE STORY,IT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW,
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IT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW,OBVIOUSLY IT WAS IN YOU TO DO.
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OBVIOUSLY IT WAS IN YOU TO DO.BUT THAT HAD TO TAKE A LOT
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BUT THAT HAD TO TAKE A LOTOF COURAGE IN AND OF
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OF COURAGE IN AND OFYOUR OWN SELF.
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YOUR OWN SELF.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH, I THINK,
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH, I THINK,FOR ME,
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FOR ME,LIKE I RESOLVED IN MY SPIRIT,
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LIKE I RESOLVED IN MY SPIRIT,PRETTY EARLY ON IN MY RECOVERY
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PRETTY EARLY ON IN MY RECOVERYTHAT I WAS GOING TO BE
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THAT I WAS GOING TO BEVULNERABLE ABOUT IT.
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VULNERABLE ABOUT IT.AND I JUST FELT JUST KIND
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AND I JUST FELT JUST KINDOF LIKE THIS; HOW CAN I NOT?
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OF LIKE THIS; HOW CAN I NOT?JUST --
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JUST --YEAH, I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS
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YEAH, I JUST FELT LIKE IT WASMY RIGHT TO BE VULNERABLE.
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MY RIGHT TO BE VULNERABLE.ROB KOKE: YEAH.
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ROB KOKE: YEAH.AND IT WAS PART OF THE GIVING
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AND IT WAS PART OF THE GIVINGBACK PROCESS; YOU KNOW,
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BACK PROCESS; YOU KNOW,THAT SHE HAD BEEN HELPED
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THAT SHE HAD BEEN HELPEDAND NOW SHE WANTED TO HELP.
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AND NOW SHE WANTED TO HELP.KENDAL HAGEE: DANIELLE,
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KENDAL HAGEE: DANIELLE,YOU STARTED DRINKING AND DOING
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YOU STARTED DRINKING AND DOINGTHE DRUGS AT WHAT AGE?
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THE DRUGS AT WHAT AGE?I'M LOOKING AT YOU NOW,
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I'M LOOKING AT YOU NOW,AND I'M LIKE,
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AND I'M LIKE,YOU'RE IN YOUR 20'S,
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YOU'RE IN YOUR 20'S,YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL,
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YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL,YOU JUST GOT MARRIED SIX MONTHS
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YOU JUST GOT MARRIED SIX MONTHSAGO.
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AGO.SO TELL US A LITTLE BIT --
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SO TELL US A LITTLE BIT --THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING --
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THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING --WHEN THIS ALL STARTED.
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WHEN THIS ALL STARTED.DANIELLE KOKE: SO FOR ME,
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DANIELLE KOKE: SO FOR ME,THIS WHOLE JOURNEY KIND OF
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THIS WHOLE JOURNEY KIND OFSTARTED TO TAKE BACK
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STARTED TO TAKE BACKTHE CONTEXT OF THE STORY
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THE CONTEXT OF THE STORYWHEN WE WERE --
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WHEN WE WERE --WHEN I WAS 14,
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WHEN I WAS 14,WE LOST MY BROTHER, CALEB,
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WE LOST MY BROTHER, CALEB,IN A CAR ACCIDENT.
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IN A CAR ACCIDENT.AND THAT WAS LIKE THE MOST
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AND THAT WAS LIKE THE MOSTTRAUMATIC THING,
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TRAUMATIC THING,STILL TO THIS DAY,
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STILL TO THIS DAY,THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH.
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THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH.AND SO AS A 14 YEAR OLD,
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AND SO AS A 14 YEAR OLD,I DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THE
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I DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THEEMOTIONAL TOOLS TO PROCESS
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EMOTIONAL TOOLS TO PROCESSTHAT KIND OF A LOSS.
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THAT KIND OF A LOSS.AND SO --
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AND SO --MATT HAGEE: I DON'T KNOW
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MATT HAGEE: I DON'T KNOWTHAT YOU GET THEM AT 48 OR 58.
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THAT YOU GET THEM AT 48 OR 58.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW TRAGEDY
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MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW TRAGEDYSTRUCK.
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STRUCK.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.AND SO I JUST -- I DIDN'T KNOW
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AND SO I JUST -- I DIDN'T KNOWWHAT I WAS GOING TO DO,
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WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO,BUT I KNEW THAT I DIDN'T WANT
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BUT I KNEW THAT I DIDN'T WANTTO FEEL WHAT I WAS FEELING.
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TO FEEL WHAT I WAS FEELING.AND SO I PINPOINT THAT MOMENT
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AND SO I PINPOINT THAT MOMENTTO THE FIRST MOMENT OF KNOWING
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TO THE FIRST MOMENT OF KNOWINGTHAT I WANTED TO ESCAPE
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THAT I WANTED TO ESCAPEMY EMOTIONS.
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MY EMOTIONS.UM, BUT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER,
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UM, BUT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER,I DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THE ACCESS
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I DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THE ACCESSTO LIKE HARDER STUFF THAT I
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TO LIKE HARDER STUFF THAT IWOULD FIND LATER ON IN LIFE.
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WOULD FIND LATER ON IN LIFE.SO MY FIRST DRUG OF CHOICE
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SO MY FIRST DRUG OF CHOICEWAS ATTENTION FROM BOYS.
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WAS ATTENTION FROM BOYS.AND THEN AS I GOT OLDER,
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AND THEN AS I GOT OLDER,I DISCOVERED DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
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I DISCOVERED DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.AND UM,
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AND UM,WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL,
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WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL,I WASN'T QUITE, YOU KNOW, FREE,
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I WASN'T QUITE, YOU KNOW, FREE,SO I ONLY HAD ACCESS TO IT ON
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SO I ONLY HAD ACCESS TO IT ONTHE WEEKENDS WHEN I COULD
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THE WEEKENDS WHEN I COULDARRANGE MY SCHEDULE TO LIE.
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ARRANGE MY SCHEDULE TO LIE.MATT HAGEE: YOU GO TO THE
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MATT HAGEE: YOU GO TO THEPASTOR'S HOUSE; I GET IT.
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PASTOR'S HOUSE; I GET IT.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH,
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH,YOU GET IT.
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YOU GET IT.UM, BUT THEN WHEN I WENT TO
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UM, BUT THEN WHEN I WENT TOCOLLEGE, I HAD ALL THE FREEDOM,
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COLLEGE, I HAD ALL THE FREEDOM,AND FREEDOM MIXED WITH WHAT
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AND FREEDOM MIXED WITH WHATI DIDN'T KNOW BACK THEN WAS
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I DIDN'T KNOW BACK THEN WASADDICTION IS A DEADLY RECIPE.
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ADDICTION IS A DEADLY RECIPE.SO IT JUST KIND OF SKYROCKETED
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SO IT JUST KIND OF SKYROCKETEDWHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE.
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WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE.AND IT STARTED OFF FUN,
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AND IT STARTED OFF FUN,PARTIES, LIFE OF THE PARTY.
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PARTIES, LIFE OF THE PARTY.UM, BUT --
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UM, BUT --AND IT JUST KIND OF SNOWBALLED
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AND IT JUST KIND OF SNOWBALLEDINTO THIS ADDICTION.
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INTO THIS ADDICTION.ROB KOKE: AND WE HAD NO IDEA,
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ROB KOKE: AND WE HAD NO IDEA,TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.
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TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.HONESTLY,
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HONESTLY,I MEAN SHE WAS PERHAPS THE MOST
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I MEAN SHE WAS PERHAPS THE MOSTDELIGHTFUL ADDICT YOU'D EVER
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DELIGHTFUL ADDICT YOU'D EVERMEET IN YOUR LIFE.
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MEET IN YOUR LIFE.MATT HAGEE: IN THE CONTEXT
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MATT HAGEE: IN THE CONTEXTOF INDICATORS,
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OF INDICATORS,YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY,
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YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY,"YOU HAD NO IDEA,"
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"YOU HAD NO IDEA,"THERE ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE
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THERE ARE PROBABLY PEOPLEWHO ARE LISTENING, GO,
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WHO ARE LISTENING, GO,"HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE AN IDEA?"
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"HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE AN IDEA?"AND THE REALITY OF IT IS,
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AND THE REALITY OF IT IS,IS SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY ADEPT
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IS SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY ADEPTAT HIDING IT.
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AT HIDING IT.AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED,
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AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED,YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T REALIZE IT
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YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T REALIZE ITWAS ADDICTION AT THE TIME.
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WAS ADDICTION AT THE TIME.DANIELLE KOKE: LIKE A NORMAL
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DANIELLE KOKE: LIKE A NORMALKID.
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KID.MATT HAGEE: YEAH.
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MATT HAGEE: YEAH.HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY ARE
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HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY AREIN A STRUGGLE WITH ADDICTION
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IN A STRUGGLE WITH ADDICTIONTHAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN AWARE
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THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN AWARETHAT THAT'S THE SITUATION
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THAT THAT'S THE SITUATIONTHEY'RE FACING?
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THEY'RE FACING?DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW?
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MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW?AND SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS
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AND SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGSTHAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE JUST
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THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE JUSTREALLY GOOD AT HIDING IT
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REALLY GOOD AT HIDING ITAND THEY KEEP IT UNDER COVER.
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AND THEY KEEP IT UNDER COVER.AND THEN OTHER TIMES,
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AND THEN OTHER TIMES,EVERYBODY'S OBLIVIOUS TO IT,
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EVERYBODY'S OBLIVIOUS TO IT,BUT IT'S ALL AROUND THEM.
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BUT IT'S ALL AROUND THEM.ROB KOKE: SOME PEOPLE,
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ROB KOKE: SOME PEOPLE,WHO GET ADDICTED TO DRUGS,
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WHO GET ADDICTED TO DRUGS,ALSO HAVE EMOTIONAL, YOU KNOW,
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ALSO HAVE EMOTIONAL, YOU KNOW,OUTBURSTS AND ALL KINDS OF
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OUTBURSTS AND ALL KINDS OFSIGNS AND WAYS THAT YOU CAN
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SIGNS AND WAYS THAT YOU CANDISCERN THAT SOMETHING
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DISCERN THAT SOMETHINGIS WRONG.
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IS WRONG.IN DANIELLE'S CASE,
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IN DANIELLE'S CASE,SHE WAS A MASTER MANIPULATOR
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SHE WAS A MASTER MANIPULATORAND A VERY GOOD LIAR.
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AND A VERY GOOD LIAR.AND SHE WAS VERY SKILLED AT
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AND SHE WAS VERY SKILLED ATPAINTING A PICTURE THAT SHE
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PAINTING A PICTURE THAT SHEKNEW WE WANTED TO SEE ABOUT
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KNEW WE WANTED TO SEE ABOUTHER LIFE.
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HER LIFE.MATT HAGEE: SHE KNEW WHEN
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MATT HAGEE: SHE KNEW WHENTO PERFORM IN FRONT OF YOU.
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TO PERFORM IN FRONT OF YOU.SHE KNEW WHEN TO PERFORM IN
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SHE KNEW WHEN TO PERFORM INALL CATEGORIES.
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ALL CATEGORIES.ROB KOKE: AND SHE WAS AT
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ROB KOKE: AND SHE WAS ATA CHRISTIAN SCHOOL TOO
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A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL TOOWHEN SHE KIND OF FOUND
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WHEN SHE KIND OF FOUNDTHE FREEDOM AND ACCESS
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THE FREEDOM AND ACCESSTO MORE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL
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TO MORE DRUGS AND ALCOHOLTHAN WE EVER THOUGHT
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THAN WE EVER THOUGHTWOULD BE AVAILABLE ON A CAMPUS
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WOULD BE AVAILABLE ON A CAMPUSLIKE THAT.
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LIKE THAT.AND SO UM, WE UH --
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AND SO UM, WE UH --WE DISCOVERED HER --
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WE DISCOVERED HER --HER SITUATION WHEN WE OPENED UP
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HER SITUATION WHEN WE OPENED UPHER BANK STATEMENT.
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HER BANK STATEMENT.WE HAD PUT SOME MONEY IN HER
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WE HAD PUT SOME MONEY IN HERACCOUNT FOR INCIDENTAL EXPENSES
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ACCOUNT FOR INCIDENTAL EXPENSESWHEN SHE WAS AT SCHOOL.
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WHEN SHE WAS AT SCHOOL.AND WE HAD NEVER LOOKED.
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AND WE HAD NEVER LOOKED.EVEN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS,
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EVEN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS,WE JUST, YOU KNOW,
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WE JUST, YOU KNOW,PUT THEM IN A PILE.
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PUT THEM IN A PILE.WE NEVER EVEN --
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WE NEVER EVEN --DANIELLE KOKE: I WAS RELYING
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DANIELLE KOKE: I WAS RELYINGON THAT.
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ON THAT.(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)ROB KOKE: AND SO ONE TIME,
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ROB KOKE: AND SO ONE TIME,IT CAME AND WE JUST OPENED IT
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IT CAME AND WE JUST OPENED ITUP,
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UP,AND WE SEE ALL OF THESE DEBIT,
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AND WE SEE ALL OF THESE DEBIT,YOU KNOW,
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YOU KNOW,KIND OF CHARGES TO ALCOHOLIC
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KIND OF CHARGES TO ALCOHOLICESTABLISHMENTS,
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ESTABLISHMENTS,AND WE'RE JUST THINKING
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AND WE'RE JUST THINKINGSHE'S NOT EVEN 21.
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SHE'S NOT EVEN 21.SHE'S NOT EVEN OF AGE.
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SHE'S NOT EVEN OF AGE.MATT HAGEE: SOMEBODY HAS STOLEN
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MATT HAGEE: SOMEBODY HAS STOLENHER CARD.
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HER CARD.ROB KOKE: SOMETHING HAS
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ROB KOKE: SOMETHING HASHAPPENED HERE.
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HAPPENED HERE.AND SO WE CALL HER, AND WE SAY,
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AND SO WE CALL HER, AND WE SAY,"UM, LISTEN DANIELLE.
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"UM, LISTEN DANIELLE.WE SEE ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW,
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WE SEE ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW,CHARGES HERE.
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CHARGES HERE.IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED
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IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEEDTO TELL US?"
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TO TELL US?"AND WELL THERE WAS, YOU KNOW,
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AND WELL THERE WAS, YOU KNOW,SILENCE FOR A MOMENT.
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SILENCE FOR A MOMENT.AND THEN --
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AND THEN --DANIELLE KOKE: I WAS LIKE,
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DANIELLE KOKE: I WAS LIKE,HOW MUCH DO THEY REALLY KNOW?
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HOW MUCH DO THEY REALLY KNOW?WHAT LIE AM I GOING TO TELL?
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WHAT LIE AM I GOING TO TELL?BUT AT THAT POINT,
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BUT AT THAT POINT,I UM -- I WAS REALLY
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I UM -- I WAS REALLYDESPERATE FOR CHANGE.
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DESPERATE FOR CHANGE.I KNEW THAT MY LIFE LOOKED
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I KNEW THAT MY LIFE LOOKEDDIFFERENT THAN THE PEOPLE
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DIFFERENT THAN THE PEOPLETHAT WAS AROUND ME.
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THAT WAS AROUND ME.BUT I WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH OF
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BUT I WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH OFIT WAS ADDICTION OR WAS I
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IT WAS ADDICTION OR WAS IJUST PARTYING TOO HARD.
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JUST PARTYING TOO HARD.BUT I KNEW THAT MY LIFE LOOKED
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BUT I KNEW THAT MY LIFE LOOKEDDIFFERENT AND I FELT LIKE I
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DIFFERENT AND I FELT LIKE INEEDED TO KIND OF COME HOME
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NEEDED TO KIND OF COME HOMEAND PROCESS THAT.
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AND PROCESS THAT.SO WHEN HE CALLED,
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SO WHEN HE CALLED,IT WAS A RELIEF.
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IT WAS A RELIEF.MATT HAGEE: SO THE PRODIGAL
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MATT HAGEE: SO THE PRODIGALIS AT THE END OF HER ROPE.
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IS AT THE END OF HER ROPE.ROB KOKE: NO.
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ROB KOKE: NO.KENDAL HAGEE: NO WAY.
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KENDAL HAGEE: NO WAY.WHEN WE COME BACK --
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WHEN WE COME BACK --MATT HAGEE: WHEN WE COME BACK,
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MATT HAGEE: WHEN WE COME BACK,WE'RE GOING FIND OUT HOW FAR --
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WE'RE GOING FIND OUT HOW FAR --HOW MUCH FARTHER DANIELLE
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HOW MUCH FARTHER DANIELLECOULD GO.
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COULD GO.THE GOOD NEWS IS,
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THE GOOD NEWS IS,IF YOU HAVE A PRODIGAL
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IF YOU HAVE A PRODIGALIN YOUR LIFE,
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IN YOUR LIFE,THERE'S ALWAYS A PATH HOME.
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THERE'S ALWAYS A PATH HOME.AND GOD'S GRACE CAN GET YOU
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AND GOD'S GRACE CAN GET YOUTHERE.
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THERE.YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT MORE
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YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT MOREABOUT THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK
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ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU COME BACKTO "THE DIFFERENCE."
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TO "THE DIFFERENCE."♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪THE UNITED STATES
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THE UNITED STATESIS THE GREATEST NATION
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IS THE GREATEST NATIONON EARTH;
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ON EARTH;YET, THERE ARE POWERS
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YET, THERE ARE POWERSTHAT SEEK TO DESTROY
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THAT SEEK TO DESTROYOUR COUNTRY.
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OUR COUNTRY.PASTOR MATT HAGEE: WE HAVE
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PASTOR MATT HAGEE: WE HAVEABANDONED THE PRINCIPLES
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ABANDONED THE PRINCIPLESTHAT FOUNDED OUR NATION.
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THAT FOUNDED OUR NATION.THE CHURCH IS UNDER ATTACK
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THE CHURCH IS UNDER ATTACKAND THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE
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AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARETRYING TO CLOSE ITS DOORS
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TRYING TO CLOSE ITS DOORSAND DESTROY OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
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AND DESTROY OUR CONSTITUTIONALRIGHT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
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RIGHT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.IT IS TIME TO TAKE A STAND
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IT IS TIME TO TAKE A STANDAND VOTE FOR LEADERS
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AND VOTE FOR LEADERSWHO WOULD PRESERVE
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WHO WOULD PRESERVETHE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE.
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THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE.FOR YOUR GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT,
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FOR YOUR GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT,HAGEE MINISTRIES WILL SEND YOU
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HAGEE MINISTRIES WILL SEND YOUPASTOR JOHN HAGEE'S BOOK,
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PASTOR JOHN HAGEE'S BOOK,"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE"
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"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE"WITH OVER 40% NEW CONTENT,
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WITH OVER 40% NEW CONTENT,AND A "SHIELDS OF STRENGTH"
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AND A "SHIELDS OF STRENGTH"CUSTOM DOG TAG.
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CUSTOM DOG TAG.FOR GIFTS OF $200 OR MORE,
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FOR GIFTS OF $200 OR MORE,YOU WILL ALSO RECEIVE
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YOU WILL ALSO RECEIVEA PROPHECY BIBLE,
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A PROPHECY BIBLE,A SIGNED COPY OF
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A SIGNED COPY OF"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE,"
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"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE,"AND A HAND-CRAFTED,
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AND A HAND-CRAFTED,VETERAN-MADE, WOODEN CROSS.
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VETERAN-MADE, WOODEN CROSS.PASTOR MATT HAGEE: NOW
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PASTOR MATT HAGEE: NOWIS THE TIME TO PUT YOUR FAITH
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IS THE TIME TO PUT YOUR FAITHINTO ACTION
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INTO ACTIONAND GO VOTE THE BIBLE.
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AND GO VOTE THE BIBLE.SEND YOUR GIFT TODAY.
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SEND YOUR GIFT TODAY.CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN
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CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREENOR VISIT JHM.ORG/EMPIRE.
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OR VISIT JHM.ORG/EMPIRE.♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪OUR WORLD IS IN CRISIS MODE,
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OUR WORLD IS IN CRISIS MODE,BUT GOD IS STILL ON THE THRONE.
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BUT GOD IS STILL ON THE THRONE.FROM NEW YORK TIMES
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FROM NEW YORK TIMESBEST-SELLING AUTHOR,
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BEST-SELLING AUTHOR,PASTOR JOHN HAGEE,
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PASTOR JOHN HAGEE,"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE:
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"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE:THE FINAL GAME OF THRONES."
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THE FINAL GAME OF THRONES."NEWLY REVISED AND UPDATED,
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NEWLY REVISED AND UPDATED,WITH UP-TO-THE-MINUTE
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WITH UP-TO-THE-MINUTEINFORMATION ON HOW CONTEMPORARY
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INFORMATION ON HOW CONTEMPORARYEVENTS SHED LIGHT
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EVENTS SHED LIGHTON WHAT IS TO COME,
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ON WHAT IS TO COME,AND HOW THIS WILL EVENTUALLY
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AND HOW THIS WILL EVENTUALLYTAKE US TO THE BATTLE
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TAKE US TO THE BATTLEOF ARMAGEDDON.
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OF ARMAGEDDON."EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE:
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"EARTH'S LAST EMPIRE:THE FINAL GAME OF THRONES,"
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THE FINAL GAME OF THRONES,"AVAILABLE AT JHM.ORG
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AVAILABLE AT JHM.ORGAND WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.
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AND WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.MATT HAGEE: WELCOME BACK.
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MATT HAGEE: WELCOME BACK.OUR GUESTS ARE ROB
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OUR GUESTS ARE ROBAND DANIELLE KOKE
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AND DANIELLE KOKEFROM AUSTIN, TEXAS.
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FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS.AND JUST BEFORE WE LEFT
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AND JUST BEFORE WE LEFTTHE LAST SEGMENT,
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THE LAST SEGMENT,YOU HAVE CONFRONTED DANIELLE
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YOU HAVE CONFRONTED DANIELLEON SOME CONCERNS.
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ON SOME CONCERNS.ROB KOKE: YES.
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ROB KOKE: YES.MATT HAGEE: AND YOU'RE TRYING
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MATT HAGEE: AND YOU'RE TRYINGFIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING
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FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GOINGTO SLIP -- HOW YOU'RE GOING
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TO SLIP -- HOW YOU'RE GOINGTO SLIP THIS KNOT.
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TO SLIP THIS KNOT.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.MATT HAGEE: SO HOW DID THAT
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MATT HAGEE: SO HOW DID THATPLAY OUT?
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PLAY OUT?DANIELLE KOKE: WELL,
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DANIELLE KOKE: WELL,SO YOU KNOW MY FIRST TENDENCY
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SO YOU KNOW MY FIRST TENDENCYIN THAT MOMENT WAS --
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IN THAT MOMENT WAS --BECAUSE I'M SO USED TO LYING
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BECAUSE I'M SO USED TO LYINGAT THIS POINT;
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AT THIS POINT;I'M TRYING FIGURE OUT HOW
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I'M TRYING FIGURE OUT HOWI'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS.
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I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS.BUT THEN IN THAT MOMENT,
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BUT THEN IN THAT MOMENT,THAT LONG PAUSE, I WAS LIKE,
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THAT LONG PAUSE, I WAS LIKE,WHAT?
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WHAT?WHAT DO I NEED RIGHT NOW?
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WHAT DO I NEED RIGHT NOW?AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I HAD
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AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I HADTHAT MOMENT OF CLARITY,
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THAT MOMENT OF CLARITY,BUT I KNEW THAT MY LIFE LOOKED
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BUT I KNEW THAT MY LIFE LOOKEDDIFFERENT.
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DIFFERENT.I WAS KIND OF MISERABLE.
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I WAS KIND OF MISERABLE.IF I LIED,
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IF I LIED,I WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO BE
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I WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO BEMISERABLE, AND SO I UM,
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MISERABLE, AND SO I UM,OPTED TO COME HOME AND KIND
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OPTED TO COME HOME AND KINDOF FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON
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OF FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ONWITH ME.
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WITH ME.ROB KOKE: AND THAT WAS
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ROB KOKE: AND THAT WASA REAL SHOCK, TO BE HONEST.
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A REAL SHOCK, TO BE HONEST.WHEN SHE SAID,
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WHEN SHE SAID,"I THINK I NEED TO COME HOME,"
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"I THINK I NEED TO COME HOME,"WE WEREN'T EVEN PREPARED
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WE WEREN'T EVEN PREPAREDFOR THAT; YOU KNOW?
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FOR THAT; YOU KNOW?WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS
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WE WERE LOOKING AT THISSTATEMENT AND WE WERE THINKING
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STATEMENT AND WE WERE THINKINGTO OURSELVES, YOU KNOW,
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TO OURSELVES, YOU KNOW,OKAY; SHE'S GOT AN ISSUE,
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OKAY; SHE'S GOT AN ISSUE,BUT IS THIS COLLEGE
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BUT IS THIS COLLEGEEXPERIMENTATION?
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EXPERIMENTATION?IS THIS JUST, YOU KNOW,
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IS THIS JUST, YOU KNOW,KIND OF, YOU KNOW,
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KIND OF, YOU KNOW,MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN
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MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THANWHAT --
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WHAT --MATT HAGEE: YOU BOUGHT IT
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MATT HAGEE: YOU BOUGHT ITFOR YOUR FRIENDS; RIGHT?
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FOR YOUR FRIENDS; RIGHT?ROB KOKE: OR SOMETHING;
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ROB KOKE: OR SOMETHING;YOU KNOW?
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YOU KNOW?MATT HAGEE: TELL ME SOMETHING
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MATT HAGEE: TELL ME SOMETHINGTHAT I CAN MANAGE.
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THAT I CAN MANAGE.DANIELLE KOKE: YOU WANT
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DANIELLE KOKE: YOU WANTTO BELIEVE.
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TO BELIEVE.ROB KOKE: SO WHEN SHE SAID,
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ROB KOKE: SO WHEN SHE SAID,"I'VE GOT TO COME HOME,"
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"I'VE GOT TO COME HOME,"THEN WE KNEW HER LIFE WAS OUT
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THEN WE KNEW HER LIFE WAS OUTOF CONTROL,
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OF CONTROL,BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO COME
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BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO COMEHOME.
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HOME.SHE JUST KNEW THAT SHE NEEDED
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SHE JUST KNEW THAT SHE NEEDEDTO COME HOME.
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TO COME HOME.AND SO WE MET WITH SOME
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AND SO WE MET WITH SOMECOUNSELORS IN AUSTIN.
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COUNSELORS IN AUSTIN.AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE
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AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IF SHENEEDED TO GO TO REHAB.
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NEEDED TO GO TO REHAB.WE DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE NEEDED,
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WE DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE NEEDED,YOU KNOW, SOME COUNSELING.
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YOU KNOW, SOME COUNSELING.WHAT WAS THE RIGHT PROTOCOL?
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WHAT WAS THE RIGHT PROTOCOL?AND WE SETTLED IN ON SOMETHING
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AND WE SETTLED IN ON SOMETHINGCALLED
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CALLED"90 MEETINGS IN 90 DAYS."
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"90 MEETINGS IN 90 DAYS."THAT'S WHAT ONE OF OUR
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THAT'S WHAT ONE OF OURFAMILY COUNSELORS HAD REALLY
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FAMILY COUNSELORS HAD REALLYENCOURAGED US TO DO.
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ENCOURAGED US TO DO.AND IT WOULD BE DANIELLE GOING
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AND IT WOULD BE DANIELLE GOINGTO A MEETING EVERY SINGLE DAY
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TO A MEETING EVERY SINGLE DAYFOR 90 STRAIGHT DAYS.
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FOR 90 STRAIGHT DAYS.IT WOULD BE ALCOHOLICS
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IT WOULD BE ALCOHOLICSANONYMOUS,
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ANONYMOUS,CELEBRATE RECOVERY AT CHURCH,
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CELEBRATE RECOVERY AT CHURCH,BIBLE STUDIES.
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BIBLE STUDIES.JUST GO TO A MEETING
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JUST GO TO A MEETINGEVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THE NEXT
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EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THE NEXT90 DAYS.
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90 DAYS.AND THAT'S THE COURSE
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AND THAT'S THE COURSETHAT WE SET OUT ON.
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THAT WE SET OUT ON.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.AND SO I STARTED, YOU KNOW,
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AND SO I STARTED, YOU KNOW,GIVING IT AN HONEST SHOT.
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GIVING IT AN HONEST SHOT.I WAS LIKE, OKAY;
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I WAS LIKE, OKAY;IF THERE'S TRUTH HERE,
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IF THERE'S TRUTH HERE,I WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT.
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I WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT.AND I WAS -- I WAS DOING IT
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AND I WAS -- I WAS DOING ITFOR A LITTLE WHILE.
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FOR A LITTLE WHILE.UM, AND THEN SOMEWHERE
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UM, AND THEN SOMEWHEREALONG THE JOURNEY --
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ALONG THE JOURNEY --MATT HAGEE: LIKE A GOOD
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MATT HAGEE: LIKE A GOODNEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION,
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NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION,YOU WERE ALL IN FOR A WEEK.
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YOU WERE ALL IN FOR A WEEK.DANIELLE KOKE: GOT THIS.
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DANIELLE KOKE: GOT THIS.NEW DANIELLE, NEW ME.
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NEW DANIELLE, NEW ME.SO I UM -- SO I DID;
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SO I UM -- SO I DID;I GAVE IT AN HONEST SHOT.
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I GAVE IT AN HONEST SHOT.AND SOMEWHERE ALONG LIKE
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AND SOMEWHERE ALONG LIKE30 DAYS,
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30 DAYS,I STARTED TO, YOU KNOW,
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I STARTED TO, YOU KNOW,GET THE DOUBTS CREEPING IN.
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GET THE DOUBTS CREEPING IN.AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW;
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AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW;I'VE NEVER GOTTEN A DWI;
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I'VE NEVER GOTTEN A DWI;YOU KNOW?
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YOU KNOW?I DON'T KNOW;
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I DON'T KNOW;I'VE NEVER BEEN HOMELESS;
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I'VE NEVER BEEN HOMELESS;YEAH,
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YEAH,LIKE JUST LISTENING TO OTHER
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LIKE JUST LISTENING TO OTHERPEOPLE'S STORIES.
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PEOPLE'S STORIES.MATT HAGEE: I'M WAY BETTER THAN
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MATT HAGEE: I'M WAY BETTER THANTHEY ARE.
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THEY ARE.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH,
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH,I'M TOO YOUNG.
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I'M TOO YOUNG.KENDAL HAGEE: NOT ME.
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KENDAL HAGEE: NOT ME.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH, TOO YOUNG
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH, TOO YOUNGTO HAVE A PROBLEM.
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TO HAVE A PROBLEM.MATT HAGEE: MAN,
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MATT HAGEE: MAN,YOU'RE MESSED UP.
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YOU'RE MESSED UP.(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)DANIELLE KOKE: UM,
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DANIELLE KOKE: UM,SO SOMEWHERE ALONG
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SO SOMEWHERE ALONGTHAT JOURNEY,
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THAT JOURNEY,I JUST STARTED THINKING,
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I JUST STARTED THINKING,OKAY; WELL MAYBE ALCOHOL
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OKAY; WELL MAYBE ALCOHOLIS A PROBLEM.
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IS A PROBLEM.I'LL TRY ADDERALL AGAIN.
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I'LL TRY ADDERALL AGAIN.I'LL TRY WEED AGAIN.
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I'LL TRY WEED AGAIN.THOSE WEREN'T THAT BIG
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THOSE WEREN'T THAT BIGOF A DEAL.
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OF A DEAL.AND SO THAT JUST SNOWBALLED
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AND SO THAT JUST SNOWBALLEDBACK INTO THE SAME THING.
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BACK INTO THE SAME THING.I HAD A FEW RELAPSES,
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I HAD A FEW RELAPSES,BIG RELAPSES, AT HOME.
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BIG RELAPSES, AT HOME.IN ONE OF THE LOWEST POINTS
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IN ONE OF THE LOWEST POINTSOF THOSE RELAPSES,
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OF THOSE RELAPSES,AND I GOT IN A REALLY BAD CAR
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AND I GOT IN A REALLY BAD CARACCIDENT.
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ACCIDENT.UM, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY LIKE
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UM, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY LIKETHE LOWEST POINT
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THE LOWEST POINTWAS REALIZING THAT IT --
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WAS REALIZING THAT IT --THAT ACCIDENT WAS
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THAT ACCIDENT WASON THE SAME ROAD, UM,
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ON THE SAME ROAD, UM,THAT MY BROTHER PASSED AWAY ON.
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THAT MY BROTHER PASSED AWAY ON.AND SO IT WAS LIKE,
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AND SO IT WAS LIKE,OKAY; THIS IS IT.
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OKAY; THIS IS IT.I HAVE A PROBLEM.
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I HAVE A PROBLEM.UM, AND SO I WAS GUNG HO
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UM, AND SO I WAS GUNG HORECOVERY.
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RECOVERY.AT THAT POINT,
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AT THAT POINT,I WANTED TO GO BACK TO COLLEGE
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I WANTED TO GO BACK TO COLLEGESTILL,
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STILL,BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT THIS
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BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT THISTO BE LIKE MY WHOLE LIFE.
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TO BE LIKE MY WHOLE LIFE.AND SO I GO TO MY DAD.
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AND SO I GO TO MY DAD.I'M PITCHING HIM THIS WHOLE
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I'M PITCHING HIM THIS WHOLEPLAN I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW.
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PLAN I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW.I'M GOING TO GET A SPONSOR.
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I'M GOING TO GET A SPONSOR.DON'T GIVE ME MY CARD.
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DON'T GIVE ME MY CARD.DON'T GIVE ME MONEY
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DON'T GIVE ME MONEYEVERY MONTH.
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EVERY MONTH.YOU KNOW THIS WHOLE THING
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YOU KNOW THIS WHOLE THINGLAID OUT.
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LAID OUT.UM, I REALLY WANTED TO GO BACK.
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UM, I REALLY WANTED TO GO BACK.ROB KOKE: AND WE WEREN'T
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ROB KOKE: AND WE WEREN'TFEELING CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO
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FEELING CONFIDENT ENOUGH TOMAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONS
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MAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONSON OUR OWN,
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ON OUR OWN,SO WE WERE TALKING WITH OUR,
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SO WE WERE TALKING WITH OUR,YOU KNOW,
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YOU KNOW,SPIRIT OF INFLUENCE AND
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SPIRIT OF INFLUENCE ANDCOUNSELORS TO KIND OF HELP
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COUNSELORS TO KIND OF HELPGUIDE IN THAT DECISION-MAKING
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GUIDE IN THAT DECISION-MAKINGPROCESS.
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PROCESS.AND WE DIDN'T FEEL ULTIMATELY
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AND WE DIDN'T FEEL ULTIMATELYLIKE THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, HEY,
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LIKE THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, HEY,WE'VE GOT THIS SOLID ANSWER.
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WE'VE GOT THIS SOLID ANSWER.BUT THE ALTERNATIVE WAS TO KEEP
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BUT THE ALTERNATIVE WAS TO KEEPHER AT HOME AND TO TRY TO
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HER AT HOME AND TO TRY TOSHELTER HER LIFE COMPLETELY.
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SHELTER HER LIFE COMPLETELY.TO SEND HER BACK TO SCHOOL WITH
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TO SEND HER BACK TO SCHOOL WITHREMOVING ALL OF THE WAYS THAT
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REMOVING ALL OF THE WAYS THATSHE WAS ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS
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SHE WAS ABLE TO HAVE ACCESSIN THE PAST.
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IN THE PAST.AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE A YOUTH
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AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE A YOUTHPASTOR THAT WAS NOW STARTING
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PASTOR THAT WAS NOW STARTINGA CHURCH UP IN THAT AREA.
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A CHURCH UP IN THAT AREA.AND SO WE KNEW THAT SHE HAD
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AND SO WE KNEW THAT SHE HADGREAT ACCOUNTABILITY
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GREAT ACCOUNTABILITYAND RELATIONSHIPS.
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AND RELATIONSHIPS.MATT HAGEE: THOSE CONNECTIONS.
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MATT HAGEE: THOSE CONNECTIONS.ROB KOKE: YEAH,
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ROB KOKE: YEAH,THERE WERE CONNECTIONS THERE.
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THERE WERE CONNECTIONS THERE.SO WE,
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SO WE,YOU KNOW WITH PRAYER AND
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YOU KNOW WITH PRAYER ANDA LITTLE BIT OF TREPIDATION,
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A LITTLE BIT OF TREPIDATION,I GUESS,
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I GUESS,WE SENT HER OFF TO SCHOOL.
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WE SENT HER OFF TO SCHOOL.MATT HAGEE: WHICH IS SUCH
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MATT HAGEE: WHICH IS SUCHAN HONEST STATEMENT.
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AN HONEST STATEMENT.AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR SAYING,
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AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR SAYING,YOU KNOW,
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YOU KNOW,WE REACHED OUT TO OUR
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WE REACHED OUT TO OURINNER CIRCLE.
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INNER CIRCLE.AND PEOPLE --
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AND PEOPLE --YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS,
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YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS,"AND A MULTITUDE OF COUNSEL
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"AND A MULTITUDE OF COUNSELIS WISDOM FOUND."
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IS WISDOM FOUND."AND FOR YOU TO SAY,
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AND FOR YOU TO SAY,HEY, I'M TOO CLOSE TO THIS.
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HEY, I'M TOO CLOSE TO THIS.I'M DAD.
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I'M DAD.THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT WANTS
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THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT WANTSTO TOTALLY PROTECT MY DAUGHTER,
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TO TOTALLY PROTECT MY DAUGHTER,BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO
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BUT THEN THERE'S ALSOA REALISTIC SIDE OF ME THAT
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A REALISTIC SIDE OF ME THATRECOGNIZES I CAN'T KEEP HER
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RECOGNIZES I CAN'T KEEP HERLOCKED IN A TOWER FOREVER.
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LOCKED IN A TOWER FOREVER.ROB KOKE: RIGHT.
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ROB KOKE: RIGHT.MATT HAGEE: SHE'S GOING TO HAVE
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MATT HAGEE: SHE'S GOING TO HAVETO BECOME A FUNCTIONAL ADULT
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TO BECOME A FUNCTIONAL ADULTIF SHE'S GOING TO LIVE
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IF SHE'S GOING TO LIVEA VICTORIOUS LIFE WHERE SHE'S
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A VICTORIOUS LIFE WHERE SHE'SOVERCOME AND OWNED HER PAST.
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OVERCOME AND OWNED HER PAST.SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO FACE
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SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO FACEHER FUTURE.
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HER FUTURE.SO I MEAN STUCK IN THAT,
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SO I MEAN STUCK IN THAT,YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE.
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YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE.AND I THINK THAT THERE'S
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AND I THINK THAT THERE'SA CHALLENGE THAT SOMETIMES
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A CHALLENGE THAT SOMETIMESWHEN PEOPLE GET IN THESE
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WHEN PEOPLE GET IN THESEDIFFICULT SITUATIONS,
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DIFFICULT SITUATIONS,ESPECIALLY IN A SPIRITUAL
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ESPECIALLY IN A SPIRITUALASPECT,
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ASPECT,ISOLATION BECOMES
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ISOLATION BECOMESA VERY BAD THING.
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A VERY BAD THING.DANIELLE KOKE: YES.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YES.MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW I'M
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MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW I'MTHE ONLY ONE WHO'S EVER DEALT
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THE ONLY ONE WHO'S EVER DEALTWITH THIS.
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WITH THIS.I CAN'T TELL ANYBODY
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I CAN'T TELL ANYBODYWHAT I'M GOING THROUGH.
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WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH.AND THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE
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AND THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLEALL AROUND YOU, WHO CAN SAY,
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ALL AROUND YOU, WHO CAN SAY,I MAY NOT HAVE THE EXACT
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I MAY NOT HAVE THE EXACTSAME DETAILS,
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SAME DETAILS,BUT HERE'S HOW I OVERCAME MY
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BUT HERE'S HOW I OVERCAME MYDIFFICULT DAY; YOU KNOW?
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DIFFICULT DAY; YOU KNOW?AND THAT HAD TO PROVIDE
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AND THAT HAD TO PROVIDEA LOT OF STRENGTH
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A LOT OF STRENGTHAND SUPPORT IN YOUR PRAYER
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AND SUPPORT IN YOUR PRAYERAND TREPIDATION,
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AND TREPIDATION,WHICH IS ANOTHER
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WHICH IS ANOTHERVERY TRANSPARENT STATEMENT.
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VERY TRANSPARENT STATEMENT.I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY
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I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYHUMAN BEING, YOU KNOW,
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HUMAN BEING, YOU KNOW,OUTSIDE OF JUST THOSE FEW
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OUTSIDE OF JUST THOSE FEWMOMENTS WHERE FAITH KICKS IN
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MOMENTS WHERE FAITH KICKS INEVERY DOOR OF FEAR,
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EVERY DOOR OF FEAR,MOVES FORWARD WITHOUT BOTH.
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MOVES FORWARD WITHOUT BOTH.YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT DAVID
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YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT DAVIDRAN FORWARD WITH A SLINGSHOT
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RAN FORWARD WITH A SLINGSHOTIN HIS HAND,
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IN HIS HAND,LOOKING AT THE GIANT,
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LOOKING AT THE GIANT,GOING, I HOPE THIS WORKS.
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GOING, I HOPE THIS WORKS.(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)I'M GOING TO LET HER GO,
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I'M GOING TO LET HER GO,BUT PLEASE.
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BUT PLEASE.KENDAL HAGEE: GOD, HELP ME.
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KENDAL HAGEE: GOD, HELP ME.MATT HAGEE: MAKE SURE I DON'T
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MATT HAGEE: MAKE SURE I DON'TMISS.
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MISS.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH.ROB KOKE: SO DANIELLE WENT BACK
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ROB KOKE: SO DANIELLE WENT BACKTO SCHOOL,
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TO SCHOOL,AND THIS IS WHERE THE STORY,
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AND THIS IS WHERE THE STORY,I THINK, REALLY, UM,
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I THINK, REALLY, UM,IS SO HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE,
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IS SO HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE,BECAUSE THEY --
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BECAUSE THEY --IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE FORCE OF
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IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE FORCE OFADDICTION IN SOMEONE'S LIFE,
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ADDICTION IN SOMEONE'S LIFE,WHAT HAPPENED NEXT WAS REALLY
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WHAT HAPPENED NEXT WAS REALLYPRETTY TELLING.
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PRETTY TELLING.DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH,
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DANIELLE KOKE: YEAH,AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT
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AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THATWHEN I WENT BACK TO COLLEGE,
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WHEN I WENT BACK TO COLLEGE,I WAS GUNG HO RECOVERY.
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I WAS GUNG HO RECOVERY.I TOLD ALL OF MY FRIENDS,
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I TOLD ALL OF MY FRIENDS,LIKE THIS WAS OUT THERE.
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LIKE THIS WAS OUT THERE.KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH,
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KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH,THAT'S MY PAST.
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THAT'S MY PAST.DANIELLE KOKE: UM, AND I WENT,
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DANIELLE KOKE: UM, AND I WENT,THE FIRST DAY THAT I GOT BACK,
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THE FIRST DAY THAT I GOT BACK,I WENT TO GET COFFEE
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I WENT TO GET COFFEEWITH A FRIEND.
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WITH A FRIEND.AND SHE UH -- WE WERE JUST
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AND SHE UH -- WE WERE JUSTCATCHING UP,
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CATCHING UP,NORMAL THINGS,
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NORMAL THINGS,NORMAL LIFE.
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NORMAL LIFE.HOW WAS YOUR SUMMER?
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HOW WAS YOUR SUMMER?AND SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT IS,
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AND SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT IS,YOU KNOW, IT WAS HARMFUL,
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YOU KNOW, IT WAS HARMFUL,BUT SHE DIDN'T MEAN IT
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BUT SHE DIDN'T MEAN ITAS HARMFUL.
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AS HARMFUL.SHE WAS JUST LIKE,
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SHE WAS JUST LIKE,YOU KNOW I'M SO HAP --
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YOU KNOW I'M SO HAP --I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.
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I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.I'M PROUD OF YOU,
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I'M PROUD OF YOU,BUT IT'S GOING TO KIND OF SUCK
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BUT IT'S GOING TO KIND OF SUCKTHAT WE WON'T GET TO DRINK
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THAT WE WON'T GET TO DRINKTOGETHER THIS YEAR.
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TOGETHER THIS YEAR.AND I WAS LIKE THAT SHIFT
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AND I WAS LIKE THAT SHIFTIN MY MIND GOING FROM GUNG HO
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IN MY MIND GOING FROM GUNG HORECOVERY TO WELL MAYBE
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RECOVERY TO WELL MAYBEONE DRINK WON'T HURT.
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ONE DRINK WON'T HURT.AND THAT NIGHT, I DRANK.
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AND THAT NIGHT, I DRANK.AND BACK, COMPLETE SNOWBALL.
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AND BACK, COMPLETE SNOWBALL.ROB KOKE: AND YOU KNOW THE
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ROB KOKE: AND YOU KNOW THEISSUE WITH ADDICTION IS --
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ISSUE WITH ADDICTION IS --YOU PROBABLY CAN GUESS.
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YOU PROBABLY CAN GUESS.IS THAT YOU DON'T --
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IS THAT YOU DON'T --YOU DON'T START AGAIN, UM,
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YOU DON'T START AGAIN, UM,ANEW AND FRESH;
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ANEW AND FRESH;YOU ACTUALLY START AT YOUR
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YOU ACTUALLY START AT YOURWORST MOMENT AND GO WORSE
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WORST MOMENT AND GO WORSEAND WORSE AND WORSE.
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AND WORSE AND WORSE.AND NOW,
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AND NOW,A COUPLE OF MONTHS INTO IT,
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A COUPLE OF MONTHS INTO IT,WE'RE CONNECTING WITH HER
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WE'RE CONNECTING WITH HEREVERY SINGLE DAY, TEXTING,
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EVERY SINGLE DAY, TEXTING,ASKING THE HARD QUESTIONS.
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ASKING THE HARD QUESTIONS.AGAIN, BRILLIANT LIAR,
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AGAIN, BRILLIANT LIAR,PAINTING A PICTURE.
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PAINTING A PICTURE.UH, BUT I'M GOING ON A MISSIONS
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UH, BUT I'M GOING ON A MISSIONSTRIP TO UGANDA.
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TRIP TO UGANDA.AND WE'RE ON THE PHONE
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AND WE'RE ON THE PHONEAND WE'RE TALKING,
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AND WE'RE TALKING,AND I COULD JUST TELL SOMETHING
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AND I COULD JUST TELL SOMETHINGWASN'T RIGHT.
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WASN'T RIGHT.AND I'M IN UGANDA,
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AND I'M IN UGANDA,AND I E-MAIL HER,
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AND I E-MAIL HER,AND I SAY, "DANIELLE,
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AND I SAY, "DANIELLE,YOU KNOW THAT I LOVE YOU.
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YOU KNOW THAT I LOVE YOU.WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION
00:18:10.583 --> 00:18:11.351
WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATIONABOUT YOUR SCHOOL,
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ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL,AND YOUR STUDIES,
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AND YOUR STUDIES,AND YOUR FUTURE,
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AND YOUR FUTURE,AND YOUR DREAMS.
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AND YOUR DREAMS.EVERYTHING SOUNDED GREAT.
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EVERYTHING SOUNDED GREAT.BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU
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BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOUAGAIN;
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AGAIN;TELL ME IF IT'S REALLY GOING
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TELL ME IF IT'S REALLY GOINGGREAT.
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GREAT.I WON'T JUDGE YOU.
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I WON'T JUDGE YOU.I PROMISE YOU I WON'T BE ANGRY.
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I PROMISE YOU I WON'T BE ANGRY.I'LL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER
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I'LL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWERTO GET YOU THE HELP THAT YOU
00:18:28.101 --> 00:18:29.169
TO GET YOU THE HELP THAT YOUNEED.
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NEED.IF I'M WRONG,
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IF I'M WRONG,JUST COUNT IT AS A DAD
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JUST COUNT IT AS A DADWHO'S TRYING HIS BEST TO LOVE
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WHO'S TRYING HIS BEST TO LOVEHIS DAUGHTER.
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HIS DAUGHTER.BUT IF I'M RIGHT,
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BUT IF I'M RIGHT,JUST KNOW THAT WE'LL GIVE YOU
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JUST KNOW THAT WE'LL GIVE YOUEVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GET
00:18:37.010 --> 00:18:38.878
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GETTHE HELP THAT YOU NEED."
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THE HELP THAT YOU NEED."AND HER RESPONSE BACK WAS --
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AND HER RESPONSE BACK WAS --DANIELLE KOKE: "I'M READY.
00:18:41.781 --> 00:18:42.582
DANIELLE KOKE: "I'M READY.TAKE ME HOME."
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TAKE ME HOME."ROB KOKE: YEAH. AND THAT'S WHEN
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ROB KOKE: YEAH. AND THAT'S WHENTHE HEALING BEGAN.
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THE HEALING BEGAN.THAT WAS LITERALLY THE LAST
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THAT WAS LITERALLY THE LASTDRINK SHE EVER HAD WAS ON
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DRINK SHE EVER HAD WAS ONTHAT NIGHT.
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THAT NIGHT.AND WE BROUGHT HER HOME,
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AND WE BROUGHT HER HOME,AND WE BROUGHT HER
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AND WE BROUGHT HERINTO RECOVERY.
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INTO RECOVERY.AND WE PUT HER INTO REHAB,
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AND WE PUT HER INTO REHAB,WHICH IS A STORY ALL TO ITSELF.
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WHICH IS A STORY ALL TO ITSELF.BUT IT'S --
00:19:00.133 --> 00:19:02.802
BUT IT'S --I THINK SHE FOUND THE STRENGTH,
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I THINK SHE FOUND THE STRENGTH,HER RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,
00:19:04.103 --> 00:19:06.573
HER RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,EVERYTHING IN THAT PROCESS
00:19:06.573 --> 00:19:07.207
EVERYTHING IN THAT PROCESSOF HEALING.
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OF HEALING.AND WE'RE SO THRILLED TO HAVE
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AND WE'RE SO THRILLED TO HAVEHER WITH US NOW.
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HER WITH US NOW.KENDAL HAGEE: WOW.
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KENDAL HAGEE: WOW.MATT HAGEE: WELL I WANT
00:19:10.210 --> 00:19:11.377
MATT HAGEE: WELL I WANTTO GIVE YOU, AGAIN,
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TO GIVE YOU, AGAIN,ACCOLADES FOR THE COURAGE
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ACCOLADES FOR THE COURAGETO TELL YOUR STORY,
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TO TELL YOUR STORY,AND NOT ONLY TELL YOUR STORY,
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AND NOT ONLY TELL YOUR STORY,BUT TELL IT IN A WAY THAT
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BUT TELL IT IN A WAY THATRELATES TO PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE.
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RELATES TO PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE.UH, YOU'VE SHARED WHY
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UH, YOU'VE SHARED WHYTHE SITUATION OCCURRED.
00:19:24.057 --> 00:19:25.758
THE SITUATION OCCURRED.YOU'VE SHARED HOW YOU
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YOU'VE SHARED HOW YOUMANEUVERED THROUGH IT,
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MANEUVERED THROUGH IT,BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S
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BECAUSE I THINK THERE'SPROBABLY SOME PARENTS,
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PROBABLY SOME PARENTS,WHO ARE WATCHING THAT ARE
00:19:28.695 --> 00:19:29.362
WHO ARE WATCHING THAT AREGOING,
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GOING,I MIGHT NEED TO GO CHECK
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I MIGHT NEED TO GO CHECKMY KID'S RECEIPTS; YOU KNOW?
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MY KID'S RECEIPTS; YOU KNOW?AND THEN AS A FATHER,
00:19:34.167 --> 00:19:34.934
AND THEN AS A FATHER,TO SAY, LOOK;
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TO SAY, LOOK;I'M GOING TO TRANSPARENTLY
00:19:36.102 --> 00:19:37.070
I'M GOING TO TRANSPARENTLYLOVE YOU.
00:19:37.070 --> 00:19:38.371
LOVE YOU.I WANT TO TRUST YOU.
00:19:38.371 --> 00:19:39.706
I WANT TO TRUST YOU.I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS.
00:19:39.706 --> 00:19:40.506
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS.ARE YOU THERE?
00:19:40.506 --> 00:19:41.274
ARE YOU THERE?ARE YOU NOT THERE?
00:19:41.274 --> 00:19:42.141
ARE YOU NOT THERE?YOU KNOW SOMETIMES PARENTS,
00:19:42.141 --> 00:19:43.109
YOU KNOW SOMETIMES PARENTS,"I'M INFRINGING
00:19:43.109 --> 00:19:44.377
"I'M INFRINGINGON THEIR PRIVACY."
00:19:44.377 --> 00:19:45.678
ON THEIR PRIVACY."YOU KNOW GOD GAVE
00:19:45.678 --> 00:19:46.846
YOU KNOW GOD GAVETHEM TO YOU FOR A REASON;
00:19:46.846 --> 00:19:47.447
THEM TO YOU FOR A REASON;YOU KNOW?
00:19:47.447 --> 00:19:50.149
YOU KNOW?HE DIDN'T -- HE -- HE EXPECTS
00:19:50.149 --> 00:19:51.584
HE DIDN'T -- HE -- HE EXPECTSYOU TO BE THE PRIVATE DETECTIVE
00:19:51.584 --> 00:19:52.752
YOU TO BE THE PRIVATE DETECTIVEOF YOUR CHILD'S LIFE.
00:19:52.752 --> 00:19:53.653
OF YOUR CHILD'S LIFE.ROB KOKE: YES.
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ROB KOKE: YES.MATT HAGEE: I WAS ALWAYS AWARE.
00:19:55.088 --> 00:19:57.390
MATT HAGEE: I WAS ALWAYS AWARE.I HAVE A P.I. WATCHING OVER ME.
00:19:57.390 --> 00:19:59.058
I HAVE A P.I. WATCHING OVER ME.HIS NAME'S "DAD."
00:19:59.058 --> 00:19:59.726
HIS NAME'S "DAD."ROB KOKE: THAT'S ONE OF THE
00:19:59.726 --> 00:20:01.027
ROB KOKE: THAT'S ONE OF THEMAGICAL PARTS ABOUT THE BOOK,
00:20:01.027 --> 00:20:01.761
MAGICAL PARTS ABOUT THE BOOK,TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.
00:20:01.761 --> 00:20:02.862
TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.IT'S WRITTEN,
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IT'S WRITTEN,CHAPTER BY CHAPTER,
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CHAPTER BY CHAPTER,FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
00:20:04.697 --> 00:20:05.999
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,DANIELLE'S PERSPECTIVE.
00:20:05.999 --> 00:20:07.467
DANIELLE'S PERSPECTIVE.SHE'S FUNNY, WITTY,
00:20:07.467 --> 00:20:09.135
SHE'S FUNNY, WITTY,RAW, REAL.
00:20:09.135 --> 00:20:10.703
RAW, REAL.WE SHARE IT LIKE IT IS.
00:20:10.703 --> 00:20:12.038
WE SHARE IT LIKE IT IS.THERE'S NO SUGAR COATING.
00:20:12.038 --> 00:20:15.375
THERE'S NO SUGAR COATING.THERE'S NO CLICHÉS AND JUST
00:20:15.375 --> 00:20:16.943
THERE'S NO CLICHÉS AND JUSTALL EASY SOLUTIONS.
00:20:16.943 --> 00:20:18.144
ALL EASY SOLUTIONS.IT'S ALL IN THERE.
00:20:18.144 --> 00:20:19.412
IT'S ALL IN THERE.BUT IT'S A STORY OF HOPE AND
00:20:19.412 --> 00:20:21.681
BUT IT'S A STORY OF HOPE ANDVICTORY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S GOING
00:20:21.681 --> 00:20:22.915
VICTORY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S GOINGTHROUGH THIS KIND OF CHALLENGE.
00:20:22.915 --> 00:20:23.916
THROUGH THIS KIND OF CHALLENGE.AND REALLY IT'S A LOVE STORY
00:20:23.916 --> 00:20:24.884
AND REALLY IT'S A LOVE STORYAT THE END OF THE DAY.
00:20:24.884 --> 00:20:25.585
AT THE END OF THE DAY.MATT HAGEE: IF YOU ARE
00:20:25.585 --> 00:20:26.019
MATT HAGEE: IF YOU AREIN A MOMENT
00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:26.619
IN A MOMENTWHERE YOU'RE SEARCHING
00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:27.253
WHERE YOU'RE SEARCHINGFOR HOPE,
00:20:27.253 --> 00:20:28.221
FOR HOPE,I ASSURE YOU THAT OUR GOD
00:20:28.221 --> 00:20:29.622
I ASSURE YOU THAT OUR GODIS A GOD OF ALL HOPE.
00:20:29.622 --> 00:20:30.556
IS A GOD OF ALL HOPE.IF YOU'RE A PARENT,
00:20:30.556 --> 00:20:31.624
IF YOU'RE A PARENT,WHO'S SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS
00:20:31.624 --> 00:20:32.725
WHO'S SEARCHING FOR ANSWERSTO QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT BE
00:20:32.725 --> 00:20:33.526
TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT BEAFRAID TO ASK,
00:20:33.526 --> 00:20:34.494
AFRAID TO ASK,I WANT YOU TO GET THIS BOOK
00:20:34.494 --> 00:20:35.028
I WANT YOU TO GET THIS BOOKIN YOUR HANDS,
00:20:35.028 --> 00:20:35.995
IN YOUR HANDS,BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING FIND
00:20:35.995 --> 00:20:37.630
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING FINDTHE ENCOURAGEMENT YOU NEED.
00:20:37.630 --> 00:20:38.131
THE ENCOURAGEMENT YOU NEED.I WANT YOU TO KNOW,
00:20:38.131 --> 00:20:39.232
I WANT YOU TO KNOW,FOR EVERY PRODIGAL OUT THERE,
00:20:39.232 --> 00:20:40.266
FOR EVERY PRODIGAL OUT THERE,THERE'S A LOVING FATHER
00:20:40.266 --> 00:20:42.068
THERE'S A LOVING FATHERWITH WAITING, OPEN ARMS,
00:20:42.068 --> 00:20:43.369
WITH WAITING, OPEN ARMS,WANTING YOU HOME AGAIN.
00:20:43.369 --> 00:20:43.970
WANTING YOU HOME AGAIN.THANK YOU FOR WATCHING
00:20:43.970 --> 00:20:45.305
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING"THE DIFFERENCE."
00:20:45.305 --> 00:20:47.507
"THE DIFFERENCE."♪ MUSIC ♪
00:20:47.507 --> 00:20:48.908
♪ MUSIC ♪THE LIFE OF A CHILD IS PRECIOUS
00:20:48.908 --> 00:20:49.909
THE LIFE OF A CHILD IS PRECIOUSIN GOD'S EYES.
00:20:49.909 --> 00:20:50.743
IN GOD'S EYES.AND THE GIFT OF LIFE
00:20:50.743 --> 00:20:51.911
AND THE GIFT OF LIFEIS SOMETHING YOU CAN BECOME
00:20:51.911 --> 00:20:53.146
IS SOMETHING YOU CAN BECOMEA PART OF TODAY.
00:20:53.146 --> 00:20:54.247
A PART OF TODAY.THE SANCTUARY OF HOPE
00:20:54.247 --> 00:20:56.015
THE SANCTUARY OF HOPEIS A ONE-OF-A-KIND SAFE HAVEN
00:20:56.015 --> 00:20:57.250
IS A ONE-OF-A-KIND SAFE HAVENTHAT PROVIDES A LOVING,
00:20:57.250 --> 00:20:58.151
THAT PROVIDES A LOVING,SAFE ENVIRONMENT
00:20:58.151 --> 00:20:59.285
SAFE ENVIRONMENTWHERE BOTH BABY AND MOTHER
00:20:59.285 --> 00:21:00.553
WHERE BOTH BABY AND MOTHERCAN RECEIVE THE EDUCATION,
00:21:00.553 --> 00:21:01.321
CAN RECEIVE THE EDUCATION,CARE AND HOPE
00:21:01.321 --> 00:21:02.655
CARE AND HOPETHEY DESPERATELY NEED.
00:21:02.655 --> 00:21:03.790
THEY DESPERATELY NEED.YOUR MONTHLY GIFT WILL PROVIDE
00:21:03.790 --> 00:21:05.058
YOUR MONTHLY GIFT WILL PROVIDETHE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE
00:21:05.058 --> 00:21:06.659
THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGETHE LIFE OF A CHILD AND MOTHER
00:21:06.659 --> 00:21:08.127
THE LIFE OF A CHILD AND MOTHERBY BECOMING A LEGACY PARTNER
00:21:08.127 --> 00:21:08.861
BY BECOMING A LEGACY PARTNERTODAY.
00:21:08.861 --> 00:21:09.996
TODAY.WHEN YOU PARTNER WITH US,
00:21:09.996 --> 00:21:12.065
WHEN YOU PARTNER WITH US,OUR LEGACY BECOMES YOUR LEGACY.
00:21:12.065 --> 00:21:13.433
OUR LEGACY BECOMES YOUR LEGACY.CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN
00:21:13.433 --> 00:21:16.669
CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREENOR GO TO JHM.ORG/PARTNER.
00:21:16.669 --> 00:21:18.271
OR GO TO JHM.ORG/PARTNER.YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN EXPLORE
00:21:18.271 --> 00:21:19.439
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN EXPLOREISRAEL WITH PASTOR MATT,
00:21:19.439 --> 00:21:20.673
ISRAEL WITH PASTOR MATT,KENDAL, AND THEIR CHILDREN
00:21:20.673 --> 00:21:23.109
KENDAL, AND THEIR CHILDRENON THE 2021 ISRAEL FAMILY TRIP.
00:21:23.109 --> 00:21:24.110
ON THE 2021 ISRAEL FAMILY TRIP.THIS ISN'T YOUR TYPICAL
00:21:24.110 --> 00:21:24.944
THIS ISN'T YOUR TYPICALPILGRIMAGE.
00:21:24.944 --> 00:21:26.346
PILGRIMAGE.THIS FUN AND EXCITING TRIP
00:21:26.346 --> 00:21:27.780
THIS FUN AND EXCITING TRIPIS DESIGNED FOR FAMILIES.
00:21:27.780 --> 00:21:28.715
IS DESIGNED FOR FAMILIES.MORE THAN JUST VISITING
00:21:28.715 --> 00:21:30.049
MORE THAN JUST VISITINGHISTORICAL PLACES,
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HISTORICAL PLACES,PAST WILL MEET PRESENT,
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PAST WILL MEET PRESENT,AS YOU SAIL ACROSS THE SEA
00:21:32.785 --> 00:21:33.753
AS YOU SAIL ACROSS THE SEAOF GALILEE.
00:21:33.753 --> 00:21:35.488
OF GALILEE.DISCOVER ANCIENT ANTIQUITIES
00:21:35.488 --> 00:21:37.357
DISCOVER ANCIENT ANTIQUITIESWHILE ON AN ARCHEOLOGICAL DIG.
00:21:37.357 --> 00:21:38.858
WHILE ON AN ARCHEOLOGICAL DIG.RECREATE THE DAY-TO-DAY LIFE
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RECREATE THE DAY-TO-DAY LIFEOF AN ANCIENT BIBLICAL VILLAGE,
00:21:40.493 --> 00:21:41.728
OF AN ANCIENT BIBLICAL VILLAGE,INCLUDING HERDING SHEEP
00:21:41.728 --> 00:21:42.962
INCLUDING HERDING SHEEPAND MAKING CHEESE.
00:21:42.962 --> 00:21:43.996
AND MAKING CHEESE.FLOAT ON THE DEAD SEA,
00:21:43.996 --> 00:21:45.565
FLOAT ON THE DEAD SEA,AND SWIM IN THE MEDITERRANEAN.
00:21:45.565 --> 00:21:46.265
AND SWIM IN THE MEDITERRANEAN.TAKE COMMUNION
00:21:46.265 --> 00:21:47.100
TAKE COMMUNIONAT THE GARDEN TOMB
00:21:47.100 --> 00:21:47.967
AT THE GARDEN TOMBAND BE BAPTIZED
00:21:47.967 --> 00:21:49.202
AND BE BAPTIZEDIN THE JORDAN RIVER.
00:21:49.202 --> 00:21:50.436
IN THE JORDAN RIVER.WHETHER YOU'RE RIDING ATV'S
00:21:50.436 --> 00:21:51.471
WHETHER YOU'RE RIDING ATV'SACROSS THE DESERT
00:21:51.471 --> 00:21:52.872
ACROSS THE DESERTOR TAKING PART IN A CAMEL
00:21:52.872 --> 00:21:53.840
OR TAKING PART IN A CAMELCARAVAN,
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CARAVAN,THIS IS THE PERFECT WAY
00:21:55.108 --> 00:21:57.110
THIS IS THE PERFECT WAYTO BRING THE BIBLE TO LIFE
00:21:57.110 --> 00:21:58.778
TO BRING THE BIBLE TO LIFEFOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
00:21:58.778 --> 00:21:59.946
FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.SPACE IS LIMITED,
00:21:59.946 --> 00:22:03.249
SPACE IS LIMITED,SO CALL OR GO TO JHM.ORG
00:22:03.249 --> 00:22:04.784
SO CALL OR GO TO JHM.ORGFOR MORE INFORMATION
00:22:04.784 --> 00:22:06.119
FOR MORE INFORMATIONAND RESERVE YOUR SPOT
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:07.887
AND RESERVE YOUR SPOTON THIS ONE-OF-A-KIND TOUR
00:22:07.887 --> 00:22:09.188
ON THIS ONE-OF-A-KIND TOURTODAY.
00:22:09.188 --> 00:22:15.194
TODAY.♪ MUSIC ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪AND WELCOME TO THE KITCHEN SET
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AND WELCOME TO THE KITCHEN SETHERE ON "THE DIFFERENCE."
00:22:17.830 --> 00:22:19.132
HERE ON "THE DIFFERENCE."TODAY KENDAL AND I ARE GOING
00:22:19.132 --> 00:22:20.466
TODAY KENDAL AND I ARE GOINGTO GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF SOME
00:22:20.466 --> 00:22:21.300
TO GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF SOMEOF THE THINGS THAT WE DO
00:22:21.300 --> 00:22:22.235
OF THE THINGS THAT WE DOIN OUR HOUSE.
00:22:22.235 --> 00:22:22.869
IN OUR HOUSE.IF YOU FOLLOWED US
00:22:22.869 --> 00:22:24.137
IF YOU FOLLOWED USON SOCIAL MEDIA OR INSTAGRAM,
00:22:24.137 --> 00:22:25.037
ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR INSTAGRAM,YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVE
00:22:25.037 --> 00:22:25.938
YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVETHE OUTDOORS.
00:22:25.938 --> 00:22:27.507
THE OUTDOORS.YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVE TO HUNT.
00:22:27.507 --> 00:22:28.341
YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVE TO HUNT.AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS
00:22:28.341 --> 00:22:30.042
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONSTHAT WE OFTEN GET ASKED IS,
00:22:30.042 --> 00:22:31.644
THAT WE OFTEN GET ASKED IS,"WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE DEER
00:22:31.644 --> 00:22:32.845
"WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE DEERTHAT YOU HARVEST?"
00:22:32.845 --> 00:22:33.646
THAT YOU HARVEST?"FIRST AND FOREMOST,
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FIRST AND FOREMOST,I WANT TO LET INDIVIDUALS KNOW
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I WANT TO LET INDIVIDUALS KNOWTHAT WHENEVER WE HAVE
00:22:36.082 --> 00:22:37.216
THAT WHENEVER WE HAVETHE PRIVILEGE TO HARVEST
00:22:37.216 --> 00:22:37.817
THE PRIVILEGE TO HARVESTAN ANIMAL,
00:22:37.817 --> 00:22:38.751
AN ANIMAL,WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE
00:22:38.751 --> 00:22:40.586
WE CONSIDER THAT TO BESOMETHING THAT GOD GAVE US
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SOMETHING THAT GOD GAVE USTHE RIGHT TO DO.
00:22:41.721 --> 00:22:42.688
THE RIGHT TO DO.IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS,
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IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS,IT VERY CLEARLY ESTABLISHES
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IT VERY CLEARLY ESTABLISHESTHAT HE CREATED THE EARTH,
00:22:45.291 --> 00:22:46.192
THAT HE CREATED THE EARTH,AND HE GAVE US DOMINION
00:22:46.192 --> 00:22:47.126
AND HE GAVE US DOMINIONOVER IT,
00:22:47.126 --> 00:22:48.161
OVER IT,AND HE GAVE US ALL
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AND HE GAVE US ALLOF THE THINGS THAT THE EARTH
00:22:49.061 --> 00:22:49.962
OF THE THINGS THAT THE EARTHCREATES,
00:22:49.962 --> 00:22:51.063
CREATES,AS OUR SUSTENANCE.
00:22:51.063 --> 00:22:51.731
AS OUR SUSTENANCE.ONE OF THE THINGS
00:22:51.731 --> 00:22:52.999
ONE OF THE THINGSWE'RE INTERESTED IN IS FEEDING
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WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS FEEDINGOUR FAMILY HEALTHY SOURCES
00:22:54.467 --> 00:22:55.268
OUR FAMILY HEALTHY SOURCESOF PROTEIN.
00:22:55.268 --> 00:22:56.068
OF PROTEIN.AND KENDAL,
00:22:56.068 --> 00:22:57.036
AND KENDAL,ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW
00:22:57.036 --> 00:22:58.971
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOWFROM YOUR TIME IN HEALTH CARE
00:22:58.971 --> 00:23:00.139
FROM YOUR TIME IN HEALTH CAREWORKING AS A NURSE IS THAT
00:23:00.139 --> 00:23:01.407
WORKING AS A NURSE IS THATWHAT YOU EAT HAS A LOT TO DO
00:23:01.407 --> 00:23:02.041
WHAT YOU EAT HAS A LOT TO DOWITH YOUR HEALTH.
00:23:02.041 --> 00:23:02.675
WITH YOUR HEALTH.KENDAL HAGEE: YES, IT DOES.
00:23:02.675 --> 00:23:03.743
KENDAL HAGEE: YES, IT DOES.AND SO VENISON,
00:23:03.743 --> 00:23:04.811
AND SO VENISON,WHEN I FOUND OUT AT FIRST,
00:23:04.811 --> 00:23:05.578
WHEN I FOUND OUT AT FIRST,I HAVE TO TELL YOU I WAS
00:23:05.578 --> 00:23:06.212
I HAVE TO TELL YOU I WASA LITTLE SKEPTICAL
00:23:06.212 --> 00:23:07.346
A LITTLE SKEPTICALABOUT EATING VENISON.
00:23:07.346 --> 00:23:08.714
ABOUT EATING VENISON.I WAS LIKE, "WHAT?
00:23:08.714 --> 00:23:09.615
I WAS LIKE, "WHAT?EATING VENISON?
00:23:09.615 --> 00:23:10.883
EATING VENISON?I WAS LIKE I'VE ALWAYS EATEN
00:23:10.883 --> 00:23:11.851
I WAS LIKE I'VE ALWAYS EATENBEEF MY WHOLE LIFE.
00:23:11.851 --> 00:23:12.385
BEEF MY WHOLE LIFE.MATT HAGEE: YEAH,
00:23:12.385 --> 00:23:13.319
MATT HAGEE: YEAH,BUT DID YOU THINK THAT COWS
00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:14.821
BUT DID YOU THINK THAT COWSACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED TO GO TO
00:23:14.821 --> 00:23:15.321
ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED TO GO TOTHE GROCERY STORE?
00:23:15.321 --> 00:23:16.088
THE GROCERY STORE?KENDAL HAGEE: NO, BUT I JUST --
00:23:16.088 --> 00:23:17.490
KENDAL HAGEE: NO, BUT I JUST --NO, BUT I JUST DIDN'T REALLY
00:23:17.490 --> 00:23:18.891
NO, BUT I JUST DIDN'T REALLYUNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
00:23:18.891 --> 00:23:19.926
UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.BUT THEN ONCE I DID SOME
00:23:19.926 --> 00:23:21.127
BUT THEN ONCE I DID SOMERESEARCH ON THE NUTRITIONAL
00:23:21.127 --> 00:23:22.995
RESEARCH ON THE NUTRITIONALBENEFITS OF EATING VENISON,
00:23:22.995 --> 00:23:23.663
BENEFITS OF EATING VENISON,OKAY.
00:23:23.663 --> 00:23:24.831
OKAY.YOU CAN EAT THREE OUNCES
00:23:24.831 --> 00:23:25.665
YOU CAN EAT THREE OUNCESOF BEEF
00:23:25.665 --> 00:23:27.700
OF BEEFAND IT'S LIKE 250 CALORIES.
00:23:27.700 --> 00:23:28.835
AND IT'S LIKE 250 CALORIES.YOU CAN EAT THREE OUNCES
00:23:28.835 --> 00:23:29.569
YOU CAN EAT THREE OUNCESOF VENISON
00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:31.370
OF VENISONAND IT'S ONLY 130 CALORIES.
00:23:31.370 --> 00:23:32.238
AND IT'S ONLY 130 CALORIES.MATT HAGEE: OR YOU CAN EAT
00:23:32.238 --> 00:23:33.306
MATT HAGEE: OR YOU CAN EATSIX OUNCES OF VENISON
00:23:33.306 --> 00:23:34.373
SIX OUNCES OF VENISONAND YOU STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN
00:23:34.373 --> 00:23:35.374
AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T GOTTENOVER TWO OUNCES OF BEEF.
00:23:35.374 --> 00:23:36.075
OVER TWO OUNCES OF BEEF.KENDAL HAGEE: SO IT'S LIKE
00:23:36.075 --> 00:23:36.509
KENDAL HAGEE: SO IT'S LIKELESS CALORIES,
00:23:36.509 --> 00:23:37.176
LESS CALORIES,LESS FAT,
00:23:37.176 --> 00:23:37.977
LESS FAT,DECREASED CHOLESTEROL,
00:23:37.977 --> 00:23:39.011
DECREASED CHOLESTEROL,SO THE HEALTH BENEFITS
00:23:39.011 --> 00:23:40.580
SO THE HEALTH BENEFITSARE AMAZING.
00:23:40.580 --> 00:23:41.380
ARE AMAZING.MATT HAGEE: AND ONE OF
00:23:41.380 --> 00:23:42.281
MATT HAGEE: AND ONE OFTHE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE
00:23:42.281 --> 00:23:43.216
THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLETO DO IS WE WORK WITH
00:23:43.216 --> 00:23:44.450
TO DO IS WE WORK WITHA LOCAL PROCESSOR HERE
00:23:44.450 --> 00:23:45.551
A LOCAL PROCESSOR HEREIN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA,
00:23:45.551 --> 00:23:46.552
IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA,ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF BOERNE,
00:23:46.552 --> 00:23:47.820
ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF BOERNE,KLEIN'S PROCESSING.
00:23:47.820 --> 00:23:49.388
KLEIN'S PROCESSING.AND THEY MAKE SOME WONDERFUL
00:23:49.388 --> 00:23:50.556
AND THEY MAKE SOME WONDERFULTHINGS OUT OF THE ANIMALS
00:23:50.556 --> 00:23:50.990
THINGS OUT OF THE ANIMALSYOU HARVEST.
00:23:50.990 --> 00:23:51.657
YOU HARVEST.WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU
00:23:51.657 --> 00:23:52.458
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOUTHE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE ONE
00:23:52.458 --> 00:23:53.292
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE ONEOF THE RECIPES THAT YOU'VE
00:23:53.292 --> 00:23:54.260
OF THE RECIPES THAT YOU'VEPROBABLY SEEN ME POST
00:23:54.260 --> 00:23:55.962
PROBABLY SEEN ME POSTON MY INSTAGRAM STORIES --
00:23:55.962 --> 00:23:56.562
ON MY INSTAGRAM STORIES --KENDAL-HAGEE: YES.
00:23:56.562 --> 00:23:57.163
KENDAL-HAGEE: YES.MATT HAGEE: -- BECAUSE I LOVE
00:23:57.163 --> 00:23:57.630
MATT HAGEE: -- BECAUSE I LOVETO COOK.
00:23:57.630 --> 00:23:58.331
TO COOK.AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE
00:23:58.331 --> 00:23:59.899
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVETO COOK ARE BREAKFAST TACOS.
00:23:59.899 --> 00:24:01.868
TO COOK ARE BREAKFAST TACOS.AND THIS IS VENISON PAN
00:24:01.868 --> 00:24:02.368
AND THIS IS VENISON PANSAUSAGE.
00:24:02.368 --> 00:24:03.669
SAUSAGE.AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE START
00:24:03.669 --> 00:24:05.238
AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE STARTWITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OIL.
00:24:05.238 --> 00:24:06.072
WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OIL.AND THE REASON WE START WITH
00:24:06.072 --> 00:24:07.640
AND THE REASON WE START WITHOIL IS BECAUSE THIS MEAT IS
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:09.008
OIL IS BECAUSE THIS MEAT ISACTUALLY SO LEAN THAT IF YOU
00:24:09.008 --> 00:24:10.343
ACTUALLY SO LEAN THAT IF YOUDON'T PUT SOMETHING IN THE PAN,
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DON'T PUT SOMETHING IN THE PAN,IT WILL ACTUALLY STICK.
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IT WILL ACTUALLY STICK.SO DARLING, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
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SO DARLING, IF YOU DON'T MIND.KENDAL HAGEE: YES,
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KENDAL HAGEE: YES,LET ME START DOING THIS.
00:24:13.913 --> 00:24:14.580
LET ME START DOING THIS.MATT HAGEE: YEAH,
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MATT HAGEE: YEAH,SCOOP THAT OUT OF THERE.
00:24:15.147 --> 00:24:15.815
SCOOP THAT OUT OF THERE.KENDAL HAGEE: THIS IS WHAT
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KENDAL HAGEE: THIS IS WHATWE DO AT THE HOUSE.
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WE DO AT THE HOUSE.WE ACTUALLY -- I'M HIS
00:24:17.016 --> 00:24:17.517
WE ACTUALLY -- I'M HISLITTLE SOUS CHEF.
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LITTLE SOUS CHEF.MATT HAGEE: SO THIS IS
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MATT HAGEE: SO THIS ISPAN SAUSAGE HERE,
00:24:19.085 --> 00:24:19.986
PAN SAUSAGE HERE,AND YOU JUST WANT TO PUT THAT
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AND YOU JUST WANT TO PUT THATIN THE PAN,
00:24:20.520 --> 00:24:22.488
IN THE PAN,SPREAD IT OUT AND LET IT BROWN.
00:24:22.488 --> 00:24:24.924
SPREAD IT OUT AND LET IT BROWN.AND THEN THIS HERE IS CHORIZO.
00:24:24.924 --> 00:24:28.227
AND THEN THIS HERE IS CHORIZO.NOW, THIS IS WHAT I CALL
00:24:28.227 --> 00:24:30.162
NOW, THIS IS WHAT I CALLGRINGO TACOS
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GRINGO TACOSAND THIS IS PURO MEXICANO
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AND THIS IS PURO MEXICANOTACOS.
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TACOS.THIS IS WHAT YOU LIVE FOR.
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THIS IS WHAT YOU LIVE FOR.KENDAL HAGEE: AND YOU'RE
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KENDAL HAGEE: AND YOU'REGOING TO BE SURPRISED ON
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GOING TO BE SURPRISED ONHOW WELL THAT --
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HOW WELL THAT --I MEAN THAT IS AMAZING.
00:24:36.402 --> 00:24:37.537
I MEAN THAT IS AMAZING.MATT HAGEE: THIS IS LEAN.
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MATT HAGEE: THIS IS LEAN.THIS IS FLAVORFUL AND IT GIVES
00:24:39.705 --> 00:24:41.073
THIS IS FLAVORFUL AND IT GIVESYOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
00:24:41.073 --> 00:24:42.241
YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVEA TASTE OF HOME WHEN IT COMES
00:24:42.241 --> 00:24:44.110
A TASTE OF HOME WHEN IT COMESTO BREAKFAST TACOS IN MY HOUSE
00:24:44.110 --> 00:24:46.679
TO BREAKFAST TACOS IN MY HOUSEAND REALLY ENJOY SOMETHING
00:24:46.679 --> 00:24:47.847
AND REALLY ENJOY SOMETHINGTHAT IS HEALTHY FOR YOU.
00:24:47.847 --> 00:24:49.682
THAT IS HEALTHY FOR YOU.SO THE SAME AS THE PAN SAUSAGE,
00:24:49.682 --> 00:24:51.617
SO THE SAME AS THE PAN SAUSAGE,YOU PUT THE CHORIZO IN THAT PAN
00:24:51.617 --> 00:24:52.051
YOU PUT THE CHORIZO IN THAT PANTHERE.
00:24:52.051 --> 00:24:53.386
THERE.HERE; LET'S USE THIS SPOON.
00:24:53.386 --> 00:24:54.120
HERE; LET'S USE THIS SPOON.KENDAL HAGEE: DON'T -- DON'T,
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KENDAL HAGEE: DON'T -- DON'T,DON'T MAKE -- WE GET ALL OF
00:24:55.555 --> 00:24:56.455
DON'T MAKE -- WE GET ALL OFOUR KIDS IN THE KITCHEN
00:24:56.455 --> 00:24:57.523
OUR KIDS IN THE KITCHENTO HELP US DO THIS.
00:24:57.523 --> 00:24:59.458
TO HELP US DO THIS.J.W. IS OUR EGG CRACKER.
00:24:59.458 --> 00:25:00.593
J.W. IS OUR EGG CRACKER.HANNAH IS THE ONE THAT HELPS
00:25:00.593 --> 00:25:01.360
HANNAH IS THE ONE THAT HELPSWITH THE MEAT.
00:25:01.360 --> 00:25:03.229
WITH THE MEAT.WE GET MADISON HELPING TO STIR.
00:25:03.229 --> 00:25:04.397
WE GET MADISON HELPING TO STIR.BUT EVERY SATURDAY,
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BUT EVERY SATURDAY,WE DO ONE HUGE SKILLET
00:25:06.899 --> 00:25:08.868
WE DO ONE HUGE SKILLETOF CHORIZO AND THEN WE DO
00:25:08.868 --> 00:25:10.336
OF CHORIZO AND THEN WE DOANOTHER ONE OF THE SAUSAGE.
00:25:10.336 --> 00:25:11.070
ANOTHER ONE OF THE SAUSAGE.MATT HAGEE: AND YOU GET TO PUT
00:25:11.070 --> 00:25:11.771
MATT HAGEE: AND YOU GET TO PUTTHEM IN THE FRIDGE AND THEN YOU
00:25:11.771 --> 00:25:13.306
THEM IN THE FRIDGE AND THEN YOUCAN MAKE TACOS ALL WEEK LONG.
00:25:13.306 --> 00:25:15.708
CAN MAKE TACOS ALL WEEK LONG.SO WHILE YOUR MEAT IS BROWNING,
00:25:15.708 --> 00:25:17.109
SO WHILE YOUR MEAT IS BROWNING,YOU WANT TO GET A BOWL AND JUST
00:25:17.109 --> 00:25:18.444
YOU WANT TO GET A BOWL AND JUSTDO A SIMPLE EGG SCRAMBLE.
00:25:18.444 --> 00:25:19.378
DO A SIMPLE EGG SCRAMBLE.YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN
00:25:19.378 --> 00:25:20.146
YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE BEENIN THE KITCHEN AND DONE
00:25:20.146 --> 00:25:21.781
IN THE KITCHEN AND DONEBREAKFAST AT ANY POINT IN TIME,
00:25:21.781 --> 00:25:23.149
BREAKFAST AT ANY POINT IN TIME,YOU'VE ACTUALLY CRACKED EGGS.
00:25:23.149 --> 00:25:24.050
YOU'VE ACTUALLY CRACKED EGGS.YOU TAKE YOUR EGGS,
00:25:24.050 --> 00:25:25.051
YOU TAKE YOUR EGGS,PUT THEM IN A BOIL.
00:25:25.051 --> 00:25:25.985
PUT THEM IN A BOIL.WE LIKE TO MIX A LITTLE BIT
00:25:25.985 --> 00:25:27.820
WE LIKE TO MIX A LITTLE BITOF MILK IN OUR EGGS.
00:25:27.820 --> 00:25:28.754
OF MILK IN OUR EGGS.AND IN TERMS
00:25:28.754 --> 00:25:30.523
AND IN TERMSOF THE PAN SAUSAGE,
00:25:30.523 --> 00:25:31.591
OF THE PAN SAUSAGE,THIS IS WHERE WE WILL ADD
00:25:31.591 --> 00:25:32.158
THIS IS WHERE WE WILL ADDA LITTLE BIT
00:25:32.158 --> 00:25:32.992
A LITTLE BITOF EXTRA SEASONING.
00:25:32.992 --> 00:25:33.659
OF EXTRA SEASONING.IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE
00:25:33.659 --> 00:25:34.660
IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITESEASONING THAT YOU LIKE,
00:25:34.660 --> 00:25:35.261
SEASONING THAT YOU LIKE,SALT AND PEPPER
00:25:35.261 --> 00:25:36.329
SALT AND PEPPERARE ALWAYS GOOD.
00:25:36.329 --> 00:25:37.163
ARE ALWAYS GOOD.WE PUT THEM IN THE EGGS
00:25:37.163 --> 00:25:38.965
WE PUT THEM IN THE EGGSAND THEN SCRAMBLE THOSE UP.
00:25:38.965 --> 00:25:39.832
AND THEN SCRAMBLE THOSE UP.AND THEN ONCE THE MEAT
00:25:39.832 --> 00:25:41.467
AND THEN ONCE THE MEATIS COMPLETELY BROWN,
00:25:41.467 --> 00:25:43.502
IS COMPLETELY BROWN,YOU TAKE THE EGGS AND POUR THEM
00:25:43.502 --> 00:25:45.171
YOU TAKE THE EGGS AND POUR THEMEVENLY OVER THE MEAT
00:25:45.171 --> 00:25:46.772
EVENLY OVER THE MEATTHAT'S FULLY COOKED.
00:25:46.772 --> 00:25:48.007
THAT'S FULLY COOKED.YOU GIVE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY
00:25:48.007 --> 00:25:50.009
YOU GIVE THAT THE OPPORTUNITYTO MIX TOGETHER.
00:25:50.009 --> 00:25:51.544
TO MIX TOGETHER.AND YOU PUT IT DOWN TO ABOUT
00:25:51.544 --> 00:25:53.045
AND YOU PUT IT DOWN TO ABOUTA MEDIUM HEAT.
00:25:53.045 --> 00:25:54.013
A MEDIUM HEAT.THE REASON -- LOOK AT THIS.
00:25:54.013 --> 00:25:55.081
THE REASON -- LOOK AT THIS.SHE'S TWO-HANDING IT.
00:25:55.081 --> 00:25:55.681
SHE'S TWO-HANDING IT.I'M PROUD OF YOU.
00:25:55.681 --> 00:25:56.515
I'M PROUD OF YOU.I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS KIND
00:25:56.515 --> 00:25:57.350
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS KINDOF EFFORT.
00:25:57.350 --> 00:25:57.984
OF EFFORT.YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
00:25:57.984 --> 00:25:58.618
YOU'RE DOING GREAT.KENDAL HAGEE: NORMALLY,
00:25:58.618 --> 00:25:59.285
KENDAL HAGEE: NORMALLY,I HAVE THE KIDS HELPING ME.
00:25:59.285 --> 00:25:59.986
I HAVE THE KIDS HELPING ME.I'M LIKE, "GET OVER HERE;
00:25:59.986 --> 00:26:00.953
I'M LIKE, "GET OVER HERE;YOU DO THIS."
00:26:00.953 --> 00:26:01.554
YOU DO THIS."MATT HAGEE: YOU PUT THEM DOWN
00:26:01.554 --> 00:26:02.321
MATT HAGEE: YOU PUT THEM DOWNTO A MEDIUM TO LOW HEAT
00:26:02.321 --> 00:26:03.322
TO A MEDIUM TO LOW HEATONCE YOU PUT THE EGGS IN,
00:26:03.322 --> 00:26:04.256
ONCE YOU PUT THE EGGS IN,BECAUSE IF YOU COOK THE EGGS
00:26:04.256 --> 00:26:06.325
BECAUSE IF YOU COOK THE EGGSTOO FAST, THEY'LL BROWN.
00:26:06.325 --> 00:26:07.560
TOO FAST, THEY'LL BROWN.AND WHEN THEY BROWN,
00:26:07.560 --> 00:26:08.794
AND WHEN THEY BROWN,IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A FLAVOR
00:26:08.794 --> 00:26:09.261
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A FLAVORPROBLEM,
00:26:09.261 --> 00:26:10.262
PROBLEM,BUT IT'S AN APPEARANCE PROBLEM.
00:26:10.262 --> 00:26:11.030
BUT IT'S AN APPEARANCE PROBLEM.YOU DON'T WANT YOUR FOOD
00:26:11.030 --> 00:26:11.897
YOU DON'T WANT YOUR FOODTO LOOK UGLY.
00:26:11.897 --> 00:26:12.565
TO LOOK UGLY.YOU WANT IT TO LOOK GOOD
00:26:12.565 --> 00:26:13.532
YOU WANT IT TO LOOK GOODWHEN YOU EAT IT.
00:26:13.532 --> 00:26:14.767
WHEN YOU EAT IT.AND SO AFTER YOU GET THE MEAT
00:26:14.767 --> 00:26:16.669
AND SO AFTER YOU GET THE MEATBROWN, YOU ADD THE EGGS IN.
00:26:16.669 --> 00:26:18.938
BROWN, YOU ADD THE EGGS IN.AND WHAT YOU WIND UP WITH IS
00:26:18.938 --> 00:26:19.939
AND WHAT YOU WIND UP WITH ISA FINISHED PRODUCT THAT LOOKS
00:26:19.939 --> 00:26:21.774
A FINISHED PRODUCT THAT LOOKSLIKE THIS FOR THE PAN SAUSAGE
00:26:21.774 --> 00:26:22.975
LIKE THIS FOR THE PAN SAUSAGEAND EGGS.
00:26:22.975 --> 00:26:24.543
AND EGGS.AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS
00:26:24.543 --> 00:26:26.178
AND THEN YOU HAVE THISFOR THE CHORIZO AND EGGS.
00:26:26.178 --> 00:26:26.846
FOR THE CHORIZO AND EGGS.NOW,
00:26:26.846 --> 00:26:27.913
NOW,ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE
00:26:27.913 --> 00:26:30.282
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKETO DO IS WE SERVE OUR PAN
00:26:30.282 --> 00:26:31.083
TO DO IS WE SERVE OUR PANSAUSAGE AND EGGS
00:26:31.083 --> 00:26:32.752
SAUSAGE AND EGGSIN FLOUR TORTILLAS.
00:26:32.752 --> 00:26:34.053
IN FLOUR TORTILLAS.AND WE SERVE OUR CHORIZO
00:26:34.053 --> 00:26:35.955
AND WE SERVE OUR CHORIZOAND EGG IN CORN TORTILLAS.
00:26:35.955 --> 00:26:37.223
AND EGG IN CORN TORTILLAS.CORN TORTILLAS IS A TRADITIONAL
00:26:37.223 --> 00:26:39.992
CORN TORTILLAS IS A TRADITIONALTORTILLA, UH, FOR YOU KNOW,
00:26:39.992 --> 00:26:42.328
TORTILLA, UH, FOR YOU KNOW,REAL SOUTH TEXAS MEXICAN FOOD.
00:26:42.328 --> 00:26:44.296
REAL SOUTH TEXAS MEXICAN FOOD.AND IT REALLY GOES WELL WITH
00:26:44.296 --> 00:26:44.964
AND IT REALLY GOES WELL WITHCHORIZO AND EGGS,
00:26:44.964 --> 00:26:46.132
CHORIZO AND EGGS,ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A HOMEMADE
00:26:46.132 --> 00:26:46.999
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A HOMEMADECORN TORTILLA.
00:26:46.999 --> 00:26:48.367
CORN TORTILLA.PACKETED CORN, NOT SO MUCH,
00:26:48.367 --> 00:26:50.970
PACKETED CORN, NOT SO MUCH,BUT HOMEMADE CORN IS RIGHT ON.
00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:51.671
BUT HOMEMADE CORN IS RIGHT ON.AND IF YOU'D LIKE MORE
00:26:51.671 --> 00:26:52.538
AND IF YOU'D LIKE MOREINFORMATION ABOUT
00:26:52.538 --> 00:26:54.106
INFORMATION ABOUTTHIS BREAKFAST RECIPE
00:26:54.106 --> 00:26:55.107
THIS BREAKFAST RECIPEMADE WITH VENISON
00:26:55.107 --> 00:26:56.075
MADE WITH VENISONTHAT WE HARVESTED
00:26:56.075 --> 00:26:57.243
THAT WE HARVESTEDBY GOD'S GRACE,
00:26:57.243 --> 00:26:57.943
BY GOD'S GRACE,YOU CAN GO TO MATT
00:26:57.943 --> 00:26:59.345
YOU CAN GO TO MATTAND KENDAL HAGEE FACEBOOK,
00:26:59.345 --> 00:27:00.646
AND KENDAL HAGEE FACEBOOK,AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE
00:27:00.646 --> 00:27:01.681
AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO SHAREWITH YOU MORE SECRETS
00:27:01.681 --> 00:27:03.783
WITH YOU MORE SECRETSFROM OUR KITCHEN IN OUR HOME
00:27:03.783 --> 00:27:05.718
FROM OUR KITCHEN IN OUR HOMETO YOURS.
00:27:05.718 --> 00:27:07.953
TO YOURS.♪ MUSIC ♪
00:27:07.953 --> 00:27:08.854
♪ MUSIC ♪MATT HAGEE: KENDAL AND I
00:27:08.854 --> 00:27:09.689
MATT HAGEE: KENDAL AND IWANT TO THANK ROB KOKE
00:27:09.689 --> 00:27:10.723
WANT TO THANK ROB KOKEAND HIS DAUGHTER, DANIELLE,
00:27:10.723 --> 00:27:12.024
AND HIS DAUGHTER, DANIELLE,FOR BEING OUR GUESTS TODAY
00:27:12.024 --> 00:27:13.492
FOR BEING OUR GUESTS TODAYAND SHARING THEIR STORY
00:27:13.492 --> 00:27:14.827
AND SHARING THEIR STORYOF ENCOURAGEMENT.
00:27:14.827 --> 00:27:15.494
OF ENCOURAGEMENT.WE ALSO WANT EACH
00:27:15.494 --> 00:27:16.562
WE ALSO WANT EACHAND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO KNOW
00:27:16.562 --> 00:27:17.430
AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO KNOWTHAT THERE IS A HOPE
00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:18.998
THAT THERE IS A HOPEAND HIS NAME IS JESUS.
00:27:18.998 --> 00:27:20.232
AND HIS NAME IS JESUS.HE IS THE DIFFERENCE MAKER
00:27:20.232 --> 00:27:21.267
HE IS THE DIFFERENCE MAKERIN YOUR LIFE.
00:27:21.267 --> 00:27:21.901
IN YOUR LIFE.GOD BLESS YOU.
00:27:21.901 --> 00:27:23.469
GOD BLESS YOU.WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
00:27:23.469 --> 00:27:29.010

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