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Hold On To Hope

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September 11, 2020
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Joel Osteen and Rick Rigsby host the TBN special presentation Hold On To Hope.

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  • - In our uncertain world, peopleare grasping for stability,
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  • but the truth is lifecan change in an instant.
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  • (bright music)
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  • A sense of resignation and dread
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  • can overwhelm us ina moment's notice.
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  • Now more than everwe need to hold on
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  • to the one thingthat will carry us
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  • through these times ofuncertainty, our hope.
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  • Hope is powerful, hope isdynamic, hope is active,
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  • hope is transformative.
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  • This is our timeto hold on to hope.
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  • What a privilege to sharethis opportunity with you
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  • as we commemorate the horrifictragedy, that is 9/11.
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  • And what can we learnfrom that tragedy
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  • that we can apply in thisseason of uncertainty?
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  • And I believe the lessonis hold on to hope
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  • more than anything else, weought to hold on the hope.
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  • You know, I'm not surethat we realize the power
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  • of that word because of itscasual use in our society.
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  • We'll say things like,"I hope it doesn't rain"
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  • or, "I hope that Iget a parking spot,"
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  • or, "I hope that my team wins."
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  • And what I realize is that
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  • because of the casualuse of that word,
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  • we've relegated it to thebasement of human emotion.
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  • But I wish to tell you thathope is not wish fulfillment,
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  • hope is not some transientthought or some sudden impulse,
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  • at least that's not howthe Bible describes hope.
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  • David on one occasion said,"My soul waits in silence
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  • for my hope is in God."
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  • Job said, "Though He slayme, I will hope in Him,
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  • I will trust in Him."
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  • Did you know that inJeremiah the Lord declares
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  • His plans for us are toprosper us not to harm us,
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  • plans to give us afuture and a hope,
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  • that's a powerful declaration.
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  • Paul said, "May the God ofhope fill you with all joy
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  • and peace so that youwill abound in hope
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  • by the power ofthe Holy spirit."
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  • Friend that doesn't soundlike wish fulfillment to me,
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  • that doesn't sound likea passing thought to me,
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  • that doesn't sound likea temporal impulse to me.
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  • You see, hope is powerful, hopeis dynamic, hope is active,
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  • hope is transformative,hope is life changing,
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  • hope, not a kind of cheaphope that the world can give,
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  • not a counterfeit hope,but a hope that is found
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  • at the revelationof Jesus The Christ.
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  • Hope is the character of God
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  • personified by Hisson Jesus Christ.
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  • Hope is that which is sotangible that lives inside of us
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  • for and I believewith all of my heart
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  • that when Jesus Christlived on this earth,
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  • He was motivated by thewill to do the will of God.
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  • And that motivation camefrom a heart filled with hope
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  • and expectation that HisGod would never leave Him,
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  • that His God wouldnever forsake Him.
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  • You see, hope seeswhat you don't see,
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  • hope feels what you don't feel.
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  • I love the way Helen Kellersaid it on one occasion,
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  • Helen Keller says, "Hopesees the invisible,
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  • feels the intangible,achieves the impossible."
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  • I wrote a book a few yearsago titled "Afraid To Hope."
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  • And I spent some timethinking about this book
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  • and thinking aboutthe definition ofhope in particular.
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  • And I came up withthis definition,
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  • that hope is that qualitywithin every human spirit
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  • placed in us by God,
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  • that places a transformativedemand upon our heart
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  • to believe for theabsolute best outcome,
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  • friend listen to me, I don'twanna be on an airplane
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  • if the pilots don't havehope, come on somebody.
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  • I don't wanna be in afamily if there's no hope,
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  • I don't wanna be on aball team or any team
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  • if the leaders or the otherfolks don't have any hope,
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  • we have to have hope,
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  • it is a requirementfor us to have hope.
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  • As a matter of fact, Ibelieve with all of my heart
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  • that hope forces us,places a demand upon us
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  • to grow in certain areas.
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  • For example, you can't havehope unless you have courage.
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  • Courage is aprerequisite for hope,
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  • courage, I love what WinstonChurchill said on one occasion,
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  • he said that fear is aresponse, it's a reaction,
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  • but courage is a choice.
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  • All through the Bible,
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  • men and women made thecourageous choice to have hope,
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  • hope found in all mighty God.
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  • We have that power, it residesin each and every one of us.
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  • Secondly, I really believethat hope requires faith.
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  • We all know the definitionof faith from the Bible.
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  • It's the substanceof things hoped for,
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  • the presuppositionis quite simple.
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  • You can't have faithunless first you have hope.
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  • And finally, hope requires animmediate decisive response,
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  • you have to make a decision
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  • that you're going toactivate hope inside of you.
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  • I can think of no better example
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  • than Job chapterone toward the end.
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  • Job lost everything,but look at his response
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  • because it reflectsan immediate action.
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  • The Bible says, "ThenJob arose, tore his robe,
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  • shaved his head, fell tothe ground and worshiped,
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  • and said, 'Naked I camefrom our mother's womb,
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  • naked I shall return.
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  • The Lord giveth andthe Lord taketh away.
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  • But I have decided to say,
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  • 'Blessed be thename of the Lord.'"
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  • What are you saying Pastor Rick?
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  • Friend, God has placedhope inside of us,
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  • hope is in us whetherwe see it or not,
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  • hope is in us whetherwe can feel it or not,
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  • even if you areon your last leg,
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  • even if the circumstances oflife are just crowding you
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  • and just burdening you down
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  • you still have hope, Godput it in your heart.
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  • That's not thecritical question.
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  • The critical question is
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  • will you activatethat hope right now?
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  • And if you say yes to that, itrequires a couple of things.
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  • It requires courage to dowhat many people won't do it,
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  • it requires faithto see something
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  • beyond your circumstances,
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  • and it requires us to make animmediate decisive response
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  • just like Job, aresponse that says,
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  • "Even though all hell isbreaking loose around me,
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  • I will trust in God, Iwill trust in the Lord.
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  • Friend I wanna tell you, ourhope is built on nothing less
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  • than Jesus' blood andHis righteousness.
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  • ♪ I've been held by the Savior
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  • ♪ I've felt fire from above
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  • ♪ I've been down to the river
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  • ♪ I ain't the same,a prodigal returned ♪
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  • ♪ All my hope is in Jesus
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  • ♪ Thank God myyesterday's gone ♪
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  • ♪ All my sins are forgiven
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  • ♪ I've been washedby the blood ♪
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  • ♪ I'm no strangerto the prison ♪
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  • ♪ I've worn shacklesand chains ♪
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  • ♪ I've been freed andforgiven, yes I have ♪
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  • ♪ I'm not going back,I'll never be the same ♪
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  • ♪ That's why I sing
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  • ♪ All my hope is in Jesus
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  • ♪ Thank God myyesterday's gone ♪
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  • ♪ All my sins are forgiven
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  • ♪ I've been washedby the blood ♪
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  • ♪ There's a kind of thingthat just breaks a man ♪
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  • ♪ Break him down to his knees
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  • ♪ God, I've been brokenmore than a time ♪
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  • ♪ A time or two, yes, Lord
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  • ♪ Then He picked me up
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  • ♪ And showed me whatit means to be a man ♪
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  • ♪ So I sing all myhope is in Jesus ♪
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  • ♪ Thank God my yesterday'sgone, it's gone yes ♪
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  • ♪ All my sins are forgiven
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  • ♪ I've been washedby the blood ♪
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  • ♪ Oh, I've beenwashed by the blood ♪
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  • - Thank you Jesus.
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  • - Friends, if you'rejust tuning in,
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  • you picked a greatnight to tune into TBN.
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  • The network is offeringa very special show
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  • titled "Hold On To Hope."
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  • In just a few minutes, we'regonna receive a great word
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  • from my friend,pastor Joel Osteen.
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  • We're talking aboutthe power of hope.
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  • Friends, hope isChrist, hope is dynamic,
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  • hope is transformative,hope is active,
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  • hope has been placed intoevery one of our hearts
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  • by God almighty, it placesa demand upon our heart
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  • to believe for theabsolute best outcome.
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  • I'm reminded inJoshua chapter one.
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  • Now keep in mind, as you know,
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  • that the land had alreadybeen given to Joshua
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  • and the children of Israel
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  • yet the Word of God inchapter one says three times,
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  • "Be strong andcourageous Joshua,
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  • be strong and courageous,be strong and courageous."
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  • Why? I've oftenwondered that question.
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  • I believe that Godencouraged Joshua
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  • just like He wants toencourage us today.
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  • The word encourage means toput courage inside of us.
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  • And so friends why go seekcourage from some other source?
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  • Why drink from someother fountain?
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  • Why not allow theGod who created us
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  • to put the courage inside of us
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  • to do the will of the Father?
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  • I love the storythat Jeremiah tells
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  • because I can sorelate to this story,
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  • it's found in Lamentations,it's in chapter number three.
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  • I just wanna read this story.
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  • Listen to what Jeremiahthe prophet said,
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  • "I cry out, my splendor is gone.
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  • Everything I had hopedfor from the Lord is lost.
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  • The thought of mysuffering and homelessness
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  • is bitter beyond words."Can anybody relate to that?
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  • "I will never forgetthis awful time
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  • as I grieve over mylosses," watch this,
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  • "Yet," the prophet said,"I still dare to hope
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  • when I remember this, thefaithful love of the Lord."
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  • Let's just stop right there.
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  • Can you, in the middleof circumstances,
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  • can you when alltrouble surrounds you,
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  • look up and say withconfidence, with boldness,
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  • "I still dare tohope in my God."
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  • Friend I wannatell you something,
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  • when you can declare that overyou, the enemy has to flee
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  • because the enemy realizeshis power is limited,
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  • his time is limited andyour allegiance is to God.
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  • I dare hope.
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  • You know what that tells me?
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  • That you can actuallymake a decision
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  • to place a transformativedemand on your heart
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  • to believe against what you see,
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  • regardless of what you feel,
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  • despite the circumstancesand situations.
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  • Listen to this one more time,"I dare place my hope in God.
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  • I place my hope in theLord, His mercies never end.
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  • His mercies never cease.
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  • Great is His faithfulness,"Jeremiah says
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  • "His mercies begin afresh eachand every single morning."
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  • That is awesome.
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  • That is awesome, thatis so encouraging.
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  • Isn't it good to know thatyou're not the only one
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  • going through helland high water,
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  • and the key word in thatstatement is through,
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  • you're not stoppingyou're going through,
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  • but you're not goingthrough by yourself,
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  • you can dare to place yourhope in all mighty God.
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  • Friend, I wannatell you something
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  • you're not alone right now,
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  • you're not byyourself right now,
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  • you're not serving a Godthat doesn't know sorrow.
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  • Right now His arms of comfort,they're surrounding you.
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  • Songs of deliverance areplaying all about you
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  • and He's whispering in yourheart dare to have hope.
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  • Not the hope ofthe world, oh no,
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  • not wish fulfillment, oh no.
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  • Not a fleeting emotion, oh no.
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  • I'm talking about a godlyhope that is Christ.
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  • A godly hope that is dynamic.
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  • A godly hope thatis transformative.
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  • A godly hope that is active.
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  • Place a demand uponheart right now,
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  • despite circumstancesand situations
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  • to dare to have hopein all mighty God.
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  • I'd like you to hearan encouraging word
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  • from my good friend,
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  • a word that will inspire hopein your heart, Pastor Joel.
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  • - Hold onto hope.
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  • 2020 has been a unique year.
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  • We're working from home^,schooling from home,
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  • we're figuring out new routines,
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  • and new ways to have weddingsand birthday parties,
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  • even church services.
  • 00:16:28.110 --> 00:16:29.745
  • These are unprecedentedtimes for our generation.
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  • Some of us have lost lovedones, jobs, stability,
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  • many have lost hope.
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  • If you're weary,if you're worried,
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  • if you're wonderingwhat's up ahead
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  • remember these words,hold on to hope.
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  • No matter what you face, nomatter how big the difficulty,
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  • no matter how long it's taking,God is still on the throne.
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  • He's bigger than any challenge,any tragedy, any pandemic,
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  • don't believe those lies
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  • that it's never goingto get any better.
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  • Our attitude should be, Iknow this too shall pass.
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  • It's not going to last forever.
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  • What God has in storefor you is good.
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  • Most of us know the storyof Job in the Bible.
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  • We think what a sad life,
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  • he had to endureall that suffering.
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  • The truth is itwasn't his whole life.
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  • We hear all aboutthe suffering of Job,
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  • but it was less than ayear, it was just a season.
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  • Are you judging therest of your life
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  • by what you'regoing through now?
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  • The last nine months mayhave been challenging,
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  • but have a new perspective,this too shall pass.
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  • God is still on the throne.
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  • When you come out, you're notgoing to come out the same.
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  • Dare to believe like Job
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  • you're going to comeout with double.
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  • Double the joy,double the strength,
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  • double the peace,double the resources.
  • 00:17:48.724 --> 00:17:51.860
  • Zachariah said, "If you'llbe a prisoner of hope,
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  • God will restoredouble back to you."
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  • You may feel like a prisonerof your circumstances,
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  • like things can never change.
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  • Now be a prisoner of hope.
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  • That means no matterwhat comes against you,
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  • you don't let it get you down.
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  • You know with God, allthings are possible.
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  • See, hope isn't justa positive attitude
  • 00:18:13.081 --> 00:18:15.584
  • it's the anchor of our soul,it's our faith being released.
  • 00:18:15.584 --> 00:18:19.988
  • Maybe you've struggledin an area a long time.
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  • The enemy keeps telling youit's never going to change.
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  • You're never going to get well,
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  • never break that addiction,never accomplish that dream.
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  • No, don't accept those lies,keep believing, keep praying,
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  • keep hoping this could bethe day God turns it around.
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  • This could be the dayeverything changes.
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  • And even if itdoesn't happen today,
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  • the good news is itcould happen tomorrow,
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  • it could happen later this week.
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  • The book of Hebrews tells us
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  • to hold fast tothe hope we profess
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  • for He who promised is faithful.
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  • Hold fast isn't a phrasethat we use a lot today,
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  • but in the original Greek,
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  • Hold fast means notonly to embrace,
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  • but to embrace with force.
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  • It's like someone is tryingto take something from you.
  • 00:19:06.735 --> 00:19:09.972
  • In other words, you haveto get a firm grip on hope.
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  • I think of it like a tug of war,
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  • you're on one end, theenemy's on the other end,
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  • he's trying to pull thatrope out of your hand,
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  • he's trying to steal your hope,
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  • get you to speak negativewords, doubt, and unbelief.
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  • You gotta be determinedto stand strong,
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  • you gotta persevereand hold fast.
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  • Even when it seemslike it's too late
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  • God is workingbehind the scenes.
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  • What he started in yourlife, He's going to finish.
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  • I heard about this young couple
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  • they were going tovisit some relatives.
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  • It was September the 11th,
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  • the day of the attacks onthe world trade center.
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  • Early that morning onthe way to the airport,
  • 00:19:49.511 --> 00:19:51.847
  • they had a flat tire, theyended up missing their flight.
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  • It just so happened thatwas one of the flights
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  • that didn't make it.
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  • If they had not had-
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  • - That flat tire, theywouldn't be here today.
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  • And this couple was sorelieved and so thankful
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  • that their liveshad been spared.
  • 00:20:06.595 --> 00:20:08.864
  • The young man then gota call from his father
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  • who lived in New York.
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  • He was so frantic and worried.
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  • He knew they were supposedto be on that flight.
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  • The son gave him the goodnews that they had missed it.
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  • Their whole familywas so grateful.
  • 00:20:20.442 --> 00:20:22.878
  • This father was aretired fireman.
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  • He told his son, he justcouldn't stay at home.
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  • He wanted to do something.
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  • He was going to go down to thesite and help rescue people.
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  • Well, that was the lastconversation he ever had.
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  • The father was killedlater that day,
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  • when the towers collapsed.
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  • The next morning,
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  • when his son and daughterin law got the bad news,
  • 00:20:43.031 --> 00:20:45.767
  • their joy, their happiness ofhaving their own lives spared
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  • was turned to sorrow,even confusion.
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  • This father would never haveanything to do with God.
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  • He was never open.
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  • The son had hoped andprayed that one day
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  • he would receive Jesus.
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  • He'd tried to share God's love,
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  • but it was likehitting a brick wall.
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  • Now it seemed likeit was too late.
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  • This son was soheartbroken and so grieved
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  • not only at themost of his father,
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  • but at the factthat he didn't know
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  • if he was at peace with God.
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  • About three months later,there was a knock on his door.
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  • It was a young couple with avery small baby from New York.
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  • They ask if he was so andso, and he said that he was.
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  • They asked, "Can we come in?
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  • We wanna share astory with you."
  • 00:21:31.046 --> 00:21:33.281
  • This young lady holdingthe baby explained
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  • that she was in theWorld Trade Center
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  • on the day of the attacks.
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  • She was seven months pregnant.
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  • This young man's fatherhad come and rescued her
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  • and carried her downa long flight stairs.
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  • She said on the way down,
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  • I started talking to your dad
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  • about his relationship withGod and about receiving Christ.
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  • She said, "When we got tothe bottom of the stairs,
  • 00:21:55.971 --> 00:21:58.640
  • we both knelt down on ourknees and your dad prayed
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  • and asked Christ tocome into his life."
  • 00:22:02.010 --> 00:22:04.813
  • They said, "We traveledthis long distance
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  • not only to thank you,
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  • not only to giveyou this good news,
  • 00:22:08.750 --> 00:22:10.852
  • but we wanted to introduceyou to our little son.
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  • We named him after your father.
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  • God is a faithful God.
  • 00:22:16.324 --> 00:22:18.427
  • He's heard your prayers.
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  • He's seen the disappointments,the lonely nights.
  • 00:22:19.995 --> 00:22:22.898
  • He knows how to takewhat was meant for harm
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  • and turn it to your advantage.
  • 00:22:25.934 --> 00:22:28.036
  • In the tough times whenlife doesn't seem fair,
  • 00:22:28.036 --> 00:22:31.039
  • when your prayersseem unanswered,
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  • when it's taken longerthan you thought,
  • 00:22:32.941 --> 00:22:34.876
  • make sure you holdonto your hope.
  • 00:22:34.876 --> 00:22:37.813
  • God has you in thepalm of his hand.
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  • Like Job, you may havehad some bad breaks.
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  • That doesn't mean you're notgoing to fulfill your purpose.
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  • You may have had somedelays that doesn't mean
  • 00:22:46.588 --> 00:22:49.191
  • God won't fulfill his promises.
  • 00:22:49.191 --> 00:22:51.693
  • Why don't you shakeoff the discouragement.
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  • Make the decision with me
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  • that you're going tobe a prisoner of hope.
  • 00:22:55.263 --> 00:22:57.599
  • Let me tell you, God hasawesome things in your future.
  • 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:01.036
  • He's about to turnnegative situations around.
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  • He's gonna take you placesthat you've never dreamed.
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  • ♪ There is a song
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  • ♪ I know it well
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  • ♪ A melody that's never failed
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  • ♪ On mountains high
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  • ♪ In valleys low
  • 00:23:24.860 --> 00:23:28.230
  • ♪ My soul will rest
  • 00:23:28.230 --> 00:23:30.065
  • ♪ My confidence in you alone
  • 00:23:30.065 --> 00:23:35.070
  • ♪ Hope has a name
  • 00:23:35.837 --> 00:23:38.673
  • ♪ His name is Jesus
  • 00:23:38.673 --> 00:23:42.544
  • ♪ My Savior's cross
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  • ♪ Has set this sinner free
  • 00:23:46.948 --> 00:23:49.618
  • ♪ Hope has a name
  • 00:23:49.618 --> 00:23:52.787
  • ♪ His name is Jesus
  • 00:23:52.787 --> 00:23:56.625
  • ♪ Oh Christ be praised
  • 00:23:56.625 --> 00:23:59.027
  • ♪ I have victory
  • 00:23:59.027 --> 00:24:03.932
  • ♪ There is a light
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  • ♪ Salvation's flame
  • 00:24:10.338 --> 00:24:13.875
  • ♪ Christ undefeated
  • 00:24:13.875 --> 00:24:17.445
  • ♪ Trampled the grave
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  • ♪ See now the cross
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  • ♪ Be lifted high
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  • ♪ The light has come
  • 00:24:28.356 --> 00:24:30.091
  • ♪ The light has won
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  • ♪ Behold the Christ
  • 00:24:31.927 --> 00:24:35.063
  • ♪ And hope has a name
  • 00:24:35.063 --> 00:24:38.600
  • ♪ His name is Jesus
  • 00:24:38.600 --> 00:24:42.137
  • ♪ My savior's cross
  • 00:24:42.137 --> 00:24:46.808
  • ♪ Has set this sinner free
  • 00:24:46.808 --> 00:24:49.344
  • ♪ Hope has a name
  • 00:24:49.344 --> 00:24:52.781
  • ♪ His name is Jesus
  • 00:24:52.781 --> 00:24:56.318
  • ♪ Oh Christ be praised
  • 00:24:56.318 --> 00:24:58.987
  • ♪ I have victory
  • 00:24:58.987 --> 00:25:03.925
  • ♪ And there'll be a day
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  • ♪ My hope complete
  • 00:25:10.365 --> 00:25:13.969
  • ♪ Now home in glory
  • 00:25:13.969 --> 00:25:17.439
  • ♪ Your face I'll see
  • 00:25:17.439 --> 00:25:20.942
  • ♪ My pain no more
  • 00:25:20.942 --> 00:25:24.913
  • ♪ My fear will seize
  • 00:25:24.913 --> 00:25:28.016
  • ♪ I bow my life
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  • ♪ I fix my eyes onChrist my King ♪
  • 00:25:30.118 --> 00:25:35.123
  • ♪ And I bow my life
  • 00:25:35.890 --> 00:25:37.258
  • ♪ I fix my eyes onChrist my King ♪
  • 00:25:37.258 --> 00:25:42.263
  • ♪ 'Cause hope has a name
  • 00:25:45.600 --> 00:25:49.104
  • ♪ His name is Jesus
  • 00:25:49.104 --> 00:25:52.774
  • ♪ My Savior's cross
  • 00:25:52.774 --> 00:25:57.312
  • ♪ Has set this sinner free
  • 00:25:57.312 --> 00:25:59.981
  • ♪ Hope has a name
  • 00:25:59.981 --> 00:26:03.284
  • ♪ His name is Jesus
  • 00:26:03.284 --> 00:26:06.788
  • ♪ Oh Christ be praised
  • 00:26:06.788 --> 00:26:09.557
  • ♪ I have victory
  • 00:26:09.557 --> 00:26:13.795
  • ♪ Oh Christ be praised
  • 00:26:13.795 --> 00:26:16.564
  • ♪ I have victory
  • 00:26:16.564 --> 00:26:19.401
  • - We're talking aboutthe importance ofholding on to hope.
  • 00:26:22.303 --> 00:26:26.641
  • And I'm here with my goodfriend, Pastor Joel Osteen,
  • 00:26:26.641 --> 00:26:30.078
  • to talk about what hope lookslike in our world today.
  • 00:26:30.078 --> 00:26:33.815
  • Pastor Joel, I'm soglad you could join us.
  • 00:26:33.815 --> 00:26:35.917
  • - It's awesome to be with you.
  • 00:26:35.917 --> 00:26:37.118
  • Dr. Rick, thanks for having me.
  • 00:26:37.118 --> 00:26:38.486
  • - What a privilege.
  • 00:26:38.486 --> 00:26:39.721
  • You know, Joel, peoplesee what they see
  • 00:26:39.721 --> 00:26:43.792
  • and sometimes they don'tsee the whole picture.
  • 00:26:43.792 --> 00:26:46.327
  • So when folks look at you,
  • 00:26:46.327 --> 00:26:47.862
  • they see a very successfulperson, beautiful family,
  • 00:26:47.862 --> 00:26:52.167
  • awesome church, the largestchurch in the United States.
  • 00:26:52.167 --> 00:26:55.637
  • But what that does isit discounts the fact
  • 00:26:55.637 --> 00:26:58.506
  • that you're a human being
  • 00:26:58.506 --> 00:27:01.342
  • who may go throughsome difficult times,
  • 00:27:01.342 --> 00:27:03.044
  • who may go through struggle.
  • 00:27:03.044 --> 00:27:04.913
  • How does Joel encourage Joel?
  • 00:27:04.913 --> 00:27:07.749
  • - Yeah, it's a good thought.
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  • You know, I choose to dowhat I ask people to do,
  • 00:27:09.184 --> 00:27:12.320
  • and that is get up every morning
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  • and find somethingto be grateful for.
  • 00:27:14.022 --> 00:27:16.458
  • I think Rick, we can liein bed in the morning
  • 00:27:16.458 --> 00:27:18.526
  • and think, "Oh, I'vegot these problems
  • 00:27:18.526 --> 00:27:20.028
  • and we got the pandemic,
  • 00:27:20.028 --> 00:27:21.262
  • and I don't feellike going to work",
  • 00:27:21.262 --> 00:27:22.797
  • and we're justdrawing in negativity.
  • 00:27:22.797 --> 00:27:25.133
  • So I challengemyself and others,
  • 00:27:25.133 --> 00:27:27.569
  • let's get up in the morning
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  • and find somethingto be grateful for.
  • 00:27:28.903 --> 00:27:30.371
  • I like to get up and say,
  • 00:27:30.371 --> 00:27:31.573
  • "Lord, thank you thatI'm alive today."
  • 00:27:31.573 --> 00:27:33.074
  • Really to see eachday is a gift,
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  • because I don't thinkyou get to a point
  • 00:27:35.376 --> 00:27:37.479
  • where nothing's everwrong in your life.
  • 00:27:37.479 --> 00:27:39.380
  • 'Cause you, you know,even with success,
  • 00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:40.782
  • you're gonna have challenges,
  • 00:27:40.782 --> 00:27:42.183
  • so much of it isour perspective.
  • 00:27:42.183 --> 00:27:43.818
  • And I like to make that choice.
  • 00:27:43.818 --> 00:27:45.286
  • I'm going to startthe day off in faith.
  • 00:27:45.286 --> 00:27:47.122
  • I'm not gonna lookat what's wrong,
  • 00:27:47.122 --> 00:27:48.356
  • I'm gonna thank Godfor what's right.
  • 00:27:48.356 --> 00:27:50.058
  • I'm not gonna thinkabout what I don't have
  • 00:27:50.058 --> 00:27:51.559
  • I'm gonna thank Godfor what I do have.
  • 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.194
  • And so I just take thefirst half hour, I mean,
  • 00:27:53.194 --> 00:27:55.430
  • people don't haveto take that long,
  • 00:27:55.430 --> 00:27:56.765
  • but I like to just takethat time to get quiet,
  • 00:27:56.765 --> 00:27:59.167
  • to search my heart, thankGod for another day,
  • 00:27:59.167 --> 00:28:01.603
  • take that time to prayand read the scripture.
  • 00:28:01.603 --> 00:28:03.938
  • You have to build yourself up.
  • 00:28:03.938 --> 00:28:05.940
  • I think sometimes wewait for others to do it
  • 00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:08.042
  • and you know, we try to help,
  • 00:28:08.042 --> 00:28:09.410
  • we try to motivate andencourage and that's important,
  • 00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:11.846
  • but I think it's moreimportant even every morning.
  • 00:28:11.846 --> 00:28:14.716
  • Just take time tobuild yourself up.
  • 00:28:14.716 --> 00:28:16.451
  • When you start theday off in faith,
  • 00:28:16.451 --> 00:28:17.886
  • I've found yourday will go better.
  • 00:28:17.886 --> 00:28:19.454
  • - Isn't that the truth?- [Joel] Yeah.
  • 00:28:19.454 --> 00:28:20.922
  • - I mean, I reallythink that the way
  • 00:28:20.922 --> 00:28:23.191
  • that we start the firstfew minutes of our day,
  • 00:28:23.191 --> 00:28:25.660
  • it really does set the tonefor the rest of the day.
  • 00:28:25.660 --> 00:28:28.196
  • And you know whythat's important iseveryone has critics,
  • 00:28:28.196 --> 00:28:32.167
  • no matter whetheryou're the mailman
  • 00:28:32.167 --> 00:28:34.135
  • or whether you're thepresident or whomever,
  • 00:28:34.135 --> 00:28:36.771
  • you have critics.
  • 00:28:36.771 --> 00:28:38.006
  • I think settinga tone that says,
  • 00:28:38.006 --> 00:28:40.875
  • "Christ, Jesus loves me.
  • 00:28:40.875 --> 00:28:43.278
  • Christ, Jesus is for me.
  • 00:28:43.278 --> 00:28:45.814
  • My Lord is tickled andexcited about me.",
  • 00:28:45.814 --> 00:28:50.218
  • really causes you to beso filled with gratitude,
  • 00:28:50.218 --> 00:28:54.422
  • doesn't it?
  • 00:28:54.422 --> 00:28:55.256
  • It really does.
  • 00:28:55.256 --> 00:28:56.758
  • You know, it causes youto put your shoulders back
  • 00:28:56.758 --> 00:28:57.692
  • to realize who you are.
  • 00:28:57.692 --> 00:28:58.893
  • Hey, we're not average.We're not mediocre.
  • 00:28:58.893 --> 00:29:01.296
  • We are children ofthe most high God.
  • 00:29:01.296 --> 00:29:03.198
  • - [Rick] Yeah.
  • 00:29:03.198 --> 00:29:04.732
  • - And I think, Rick, lifetries to push people down,
  • 00:29:04.732 --> 00:29:06.334
  • devalue us through otherpeople, through circumstances,
  • 00:29:06.334 --> 00:29:09.470
  • through laws, throughdisappointments.
  • 00:29:09.470 --> 00:29:11.005
  • And if you're not careful,
  • 00:29:11.005 --> 00:29:12.774
  • you look up and you'rejust dragging through life,
  • 00:29:12.774 --> 00:29:15.276
  • just enduring the day,
  • 00:29:15.276 --> 00:29:16.578
  • but I believe we'resupposed to enjoy life,
  • 00:29:16.578 --> 00:29:19.347
  • that every day isa gift from God.
  • 00:29:19.347 --> 00:29:20.949
  • And when you realize, hey,
  • 00:29:20.949 --> 00:29:22.217
  • the creator of theuniverse chose me
  • 00:29:22.217 --> 00:29:24.219
  • to be alive at this time.
  • 00:29:24.219 --> 00:29:25.787
  • He's called me, He'scalled you a masterpiece.
  • 00:29:25.787 --> 00:29:28.356
  • Well, that helps me to shakeoff what other people might say
  • 00:29:28.356 --> 00:29:31.793
  • or, "Hey, I've gotsome disappointments,
  • 00:29:31.793 --> 00:29:33.561
  • I'm in a tough time.
  • 00:29:33.561 --> 00:29:35.063
  • But, Hey, God, you've army wasstrength for every battle."
  • 00:29:35.063 --> 00:29:37.732
  • That's how we keep goingstrong in a spirit of faith.
  • 00:29:37.732 --> 00:29:40.468
  • - I love the spiritof which you speak
  • 00:29:40.468 --> 00:29:42.237
  • because you know, we tendto look toward other people
  • 00:29:42.237 --> 00:29:46.741
  • or other things to pull us out.
  • 00:29:46.741 --> 00:29:48.443
  • And sometimes thatcauses us to miss
  • 00:29:48.443 --> 00:29:52.080
  • the essence of whatDavid was all about.
  • 00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:54.148
  • There was a seasonin David's life
  • 00:29:54.148 --> 00:29:55.516
  • where he had toencourage himself,
  • 00:29:55.516 --> 00:29:57.518
  • where he had to lay handson his own head, and so.
  • 00:29:57.518 --> 00:30:00.822
  • - We can have powerover the pity parties,
  • 00:30:01.089 --> 00:30:04.058
  • the momentary pity partiesby ceasing to look out there
  • 00:30:04.058 --> 00:30:07.729
  • and looking up there for ourhope is in Jesus the Christ.
  • 00:30:07.729 --> 00:30:12.533
  • - Yeah, it's so important,pastor Rick 'cause it's easy
  • 00:30:12.533 --> 00:30:15.670
  • to wanna rely on others
  • 00:30:15.670 --> 00:30:17.272
  • and well if myspouse didn't do this
  • 00:30:17.272 --> 00:30:18.940
  • then I'd be happy.
  • 00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:19.941
  • If my boss wouldtreat me better,
  • 00:30:19.941 --> 00:30:21.442
  • if this pandemic but yougot to make that decision.
  • 00:30:21.442 --> 00:30:23.511
  • Hey, this is the hand thatI've been dealt today.
  • 00:30:23.511 --> 00:30:26.481
  • And God you've given mepower over one thing.
  • 00:30:26.481 --> 00:30:28.850
  • And that is my attitude.
  • 00:30:28.850 --> 00:30:30.184
  • And God I'm gonnachoose to rejoice.
  • 00:30:30.184 --> 00:30:31.853
  • I'm gonna choose to be glad.
  • 00:30:31.853 --> 00:30:33.521
  • Even when David said that,
  • 00:30:33.521 --> 00:30:34.956
  • this is another daythe Lord has made,
  • 00:30:34.956 --> 00:30:36.591
  • I'll choose to rejoice,he wasn't in a great time.
  • 00:30:36.591 --> 00:30:39.494
  • He wasn't reporting, hewas making a declaration
  • 00:30:39.494 --> 00:30:41.529
  • of faith and said,you know what?
  • 00:30:41.529 --> 00:30:42.931
  • Yeah, I've gotsome things wrong,
  • 00:30:42.931 --> 00:30:44.399
  • but I'm still gonnachoose to give God praise.
  • 00:30:44.399 --> 00:30:46.401
  • I wanna choose tobe good to somebody.
  • 00:30:46.401 --> 00:30:48.736
  • Really, those are seedsthat we're sowing for God
  • 00:30:48.736 --> 00:30:50.872
  • to change our attitude andchange our circumstances.
  • 00:30:50.872 --> 00:30:53.808
  • - I hear peoplesay all the time,
  • 00:30:53.808 --> 00:30:55.243
  • he made me mad orshe made me mad.
  • 00:30:55.243 --> 00:30:57.612
  • The reality is anotherperson doesn't have
  • 00:30:57.612 --> 00:30:59.614
  • that much power over you.
  • 00:30:59.614 --> 00:31:01.149
  • You can make yourselfglad in the Lord.
  • 00:31:01.149 --> 00:31:03.518
  • And I appreciate your answer.
  • 00:31:03.518 --> 00:31:05.219
  • It gives us a great perspective.
  • 00:31:05.219 --> 00:31:06.921
  • I wanna ask you this question.
  • 00:31:06.921 --> 00:31:08.656
  • Think about what you andpastor Victoria have been
  • 00:31:08.656 --> 00:31:13.661
  • through and try toisolate for our viewers
  • 00:31:14.762 --> 00:31:17.098
  • a time when you'vereally needed to exercise
  • 00:31:17.098 --> 00:31:20.335
  • the power of hope.
  • 00:31:20.335 --> 00:31:21.569
  • And I think I know whatyou're gonna mention.
  • 00:31:21.569 --> 00:31:23.338
  • - Yeah, I thinkthe biggest thing,
  • 00:31:23.338 --> 00:31:24.939
  • pastor Rick in my lifeis when my father passed.
  • 00:31:24.939 --> 00:31:27.575
  • So I was working behind thescenes like these fine men
  • 00:31:27.575 --> 00:31:30.445
  • and women doing the production,making my dad look good.
  • 00:31:30.445 --> 00:31:33.381
  • And you know, I thought he hadlived to be a 100 years old
  • 00:31:33.381 --> 00:31:36.284
  • but at 77 he suddenly passed.
  • 00:31:36.284 --> 00:31:38.453
  • And I knew I'm supposed tostep up and pastor the church
  • 00:31:38.453 --> 00:31:42.190
  • but I'd never faced thatkind of challenge before.
  • 00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:44.692
  • Every thought told me,Joel you can't do that.
  • 00:31:44.692 --> 00:31:46.828
  • You're a production guy,you've never been to seminary.
  • 00:31:46.828 --> 00:31:49.564
  • Then even once Istepped up, pastor Rick,
  • 00:31:49.564 --> 00:31:52.233
  • there were other forcesthat tried to stop,
  • 00:31:52.233 --> 00:31:55.470
  • just critics andjust other things.
  • 00:31:55.470 --> 00:31:57.538
  • But you know what?
  • 00:31:57.538 --> 00:31:58.806
  • I just, I had to digdown deep and say,
  • 00:31:58.806 --> 00:32:00.975
  • God, I believe this issomething you put in my heart.
  • 00:32:00.975 --> 00:32:03.444
  • I'm gonna takethis step of faith.
  • 00:32:03.444 --> 00:32:05.179
  • And really my attitude was,even if it doesn't work out,
  • 00:32:05.179 --> 00:32:08.116
  • I'll go back to doingtelevision production
  • 00:32:08.116 --> 00:32:10.918
  • but I'm not gonnago to my grave,
  • 00:32:10.918 --> 00:32:12.720
  • not knowing what Icould have become
  • 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.122
  • if I'd taken that stepof faith and believed
  • 00:32:14.122 --> 00:32:16.624
  • that God was for me.
  • 00:32:16.624 --> 00:32:17.859
  • And as I launchedout with that hope,
  • 00:32:17.859 --> 00:32:20.094
  • knowing that God was in control,
  • 00:32:20.094 --> 00:32:22.397
  • he's taken me furtherthan I've ever dreamed.
  • 00:32:22.397 --> 00:32:24.232
  • So I really believe Rickyou can talk yourself out
  • 00:32:24.232 --> 00:32:27.668
  • of your dreams or you can talkyourself into your dreams.
  • 00:32:27.668 --> 00:32:30.405
  • There's these voices playingin our mind all day long.
  • 00:32:30.405 --> 00:32:33.508
  • And sometimes it's negative.
  • 00:32:33.508 --> 00:32:34.842
  • Joel, you can't be a pastor.
  • 00:32:34.842 --> 00:32:36.110
  • Who's gonna listen to you
  • 00:32:36.110 --> 00:32:37.278
  • and you haven't been to seminary
  • 00:32:37.278 --> 00:32:38.846
  • but I had to turn that off
  • 00:32:38.846 --> 00:32:40.114
  • and just replace itwith what God said.
  • 00:32:40.114 --> 00:32:41.916
  • I'm strong in the Lord.
  • 00:32:41.916 --> 00:32:43.117
  • I can do all thingsthrough Christ.
  • 00:32:43.117 --> 00:32:44.619
  • God be in and for me more thanthe world being against me.
  • 00:32:44.619 --> 00:32:47.655
  • Well, that's what causedthat hope to come alive.
  • 00:32:47.655 --> 00:32:50.425
  • - Sure.
  • 00:32:50.425 --> 00:32:51.993
  • - And I think it's in all ofus, but we have to activate.
  • 00:32:51.993 --> 00:32:53.327
  • - That's exactly right.
  • 00:32:53.327 --> 00:32:54.829
  • I think you've answered aportion of the next question,
  • 00:32:54.829 --> 00:32:57.465
  • but I want you tocontinue elaborating
  • 00:32:57.465 --> 00:32:59.634
  • because I sense everywhereI go, people want to hope.
  • 00:32:59.634 --> 00:33:04.539
  • But for whatever reason they say
  • 00:33:05.406 --> 00:33:07.475
  • but I can't and this is thereason why I can't hope.
  • 00:33:07.475 --> 00:33:10.211
  • And the tendency is tolook at circumstances,
  • 00:33:10.211 --> 00:33:12.013
  • to look at situations.
  • 00:33:12.013 --> 00:33:13.448
  • So my question is this,
  • 00:33:13.448 --> 00:33:15.249
  • my question is what isit that prevents people
  • 00:33:15.249 --> 00:33:19.420
  • from experiencing the powerof hope in your opinion?
  • 00:33:19.420 --> 00:33:22.623
  • - Yeah, I think thereare several things.
  • 00:33:22.623 --> 00:33:24.826
  • I think sometimes welet disappointments
  • 00:33:24.826 --> 00:33:27.361
  • and setbacks convince us thatthat is never gonna change.
  • 00:33:27.361 --> 00:33:30.364
  • It's never goingto get any better.
  • 00:33:30.364 --> 00:33:32.266
  • I think of thescripture in Exodus,
  • 00:33:32.266 --> 00:33:34.035
  • it says the Israelites becametoo discouraged to believe.
  • 00:33:34.035 --> 00:33:37.638
  • Well, they just kept thinking,
  • 00:33:37.638 --> 00:33:38.906
  • we're never gonna getto the promised land.
  • 00:33:38.906 --> 00:33:40.341
  • Look how big these obstacles,we're out in the desert.
  • 00:33:40.341 --> 00:33:42.443
  • What if you dwell on thatnegative all the time,
  • 00:33:42.443 --> 00:33:44.846
  • you're just depressingyour own spirit.
  • 00:33:44.846 --> 00:33:46.881
  • So I think that's one thing.
  • 00:33:46.881 --> 00:33:48.049
  • It's our thought life.
  • 00:33:48.049 --> 00:33:49.584
  • That's what we haveto turn up that,
  • 00:33:49.584 --> 00:33:51.452
  • hope is in us but we haveto turn it up and say,
  • 00:33:51.452 --> 00:33:53.254
  • God, okay, this seems impossible
  • 00:33:53.254 --> 00:33:55.423
  • but I know You cando the impossible.
  • 00:33:55.423 --> 00:33:57.525
  • And I think anothergood thing too,
  • 00:33:57.525 --> 00:33:59.293
  • Rick is to go back and lookat your victories in the past
  • 00:33:59.293 --> 00:34:01.829
  • 'cause we've all hadtimes where it didn't look
  • 00:34:01.829 --> 00:34:04.165
  • like there was a waybut God made a way,
  • 00:34:04.165 --> 00:34:05.900
  • when you realize, heyGod, you did it back then
  • 00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:08.402
  • You can do it again.
  • 00:34:08.402 --> 00:34:09.637
  • But you do have to stirit up 'cause you know,
  • 00:34:09.637 --> 00:34:11.606
  • forces wanna keep youto say, you know what?
  • 00:34:11.606 --> 00:34:13.474
  • You'll never get married.
  • 00:34:13.474 --> 00:34:14.675
  • You'll never get well,
  • 00:34:14.675 --> 00:34:15.943
  • you'll never breakthis addiction.
  • 00:34:15.943 --> 00:34:17.078
  • It would have happened by now.
  • 00:34:17.078 --> 00:34:18.346
  • Those are lies from the enemy.
  • 00:34:18.346 --> 00:34:19.914
  • You could be one day away.
  • 00:34:19.914 --> 00:34:21.382
  • You don't know when God'sgonna turn that around
  • 00:34:21.382 --> 00:34:23.851
  • but I know this when youbelieve God is faithful
  • 00:34:23.851 --> 00:34:26.420
  • to His Word, it may nothappen on our timetable
  • 00:34:26.420 --> 00:34:29.123
  • but God knows how to get youto where you're supposed to be.
  • 00:34:29.123 --> 00:34:31.759
  • - That's a good word, pastor.
  • 00:34:31.759 --> 00:34:32.927
  • That really is a good word.
  • 00:34:32.927 --> 00:34:34.162
  • Your words remindme of Frank Outlaw,
  • 00:34:34.162 --> 00:34:37.899
  • who is credited amongothers with saying,
  • 00:34:37.899 --> 00:34:40.168
  • watch your thoughts,
  • 00:34:40.168 --> 00:34:41.669
  • your thoughts determine yourwords and shape your character
  • 00:34:41.669 --> 00:34:45.039
  • and form your destiny.
  • 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.274
  • It all begins withour thought process.
  • 00:34:46.274 --> 00:34:48.643
  • The Bible says as aman thinketh so is he
  • 00:34:48.643 --> 00:34:52.580
  • and I've seen so manypeople that don't think
  • 00:34:52.580 --> 00:34:55.716
  • that they canbreak through that.
  • 00:34:55.716 --> 00:34:57.518
  • Don't think thatthey're special.
  • 00:34:57.518 --> 00:34:59.387
  • That don't think thatthey're anointed of God
  • 00:34:59.387 --> 00:35:01.422
  • and my response is,
  • 00:35:01.422 --> 00:35:03.824
  • have you looked latelyat how God describes you?
  • 00:35:03.824 --> 00:35:08.529
  • And that will changeyour thought process?
  • 00:35:08.529 --> 00:35:10.298
  • Won't it pastor?
  • 00:35:10.298 --> 00:35:11.132
  • - It's so important.
  • 00:35:11.132 --> 00:35:12.533
  • Yeah, it really willbecause our life is setting,
  • 00:35:12.533 --> 00:35:15.903
  • our thoughts are settingthe limits for our life.
  • 00:35:15.903 --> 00:35:18.172
  • And I touched on itearlier, but pastor Rick
  • 00:35:18.172 --> 00:35:20.575
  • a lot of people therethat recording playing
  • 00:35:20.575 --> 00:35:23.477
  • in their mind is negative.
  • 00:35:23.477 --> 00:35:24.779
  • And it's been thatway, their whole life.
  • 00:35:24.779 --> 00:35:26.113
  • And they don'tknow any different.
  • 00:35:26.113 --> 00:35:27.081
  • It says that, you know what?
  • 00:35:27.081 --> 00:35:28.549
  • I'll never get marriedand I'm not that talented.
  • 00:35:28.549 --> 00:35:30.718
  • And my coworkers aresmarter than I am.
  • 00:35:30.718 --> 00:35:32.820
  • And it's just a negative,it's putting themselves down.
  • 00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:35.489
  • But I think if you turn thatback on to what God says
  • 00:35:35.489 --> 00:35:38.726
  • about you, if youget rid of the old,
  • 00:35:38.726 --> 00:35:41.028
  • put a new recordingon and you know it's,
  • 00:35:41.028 --> 00:35:43.364
  • I'm blessed, I'm prosperous.
  • 00:35:43.364 --> 00:35:45.099
  • I'm redeemed, I'm forgiven,I'm talented, I'm creative,
  • 00:35:45.099 --> 00:35:48.836
  • I'm disciplined, I'm focused,I'm motivated, I'm determined,
  • 00:35:48.836 --> 00:35:52.673
  • I'm equipped, I'm empowered,
  • 00:35:52.673 --> 00:35:54.508
  • I'm anointed to get thosethings playing in our mind.
  • 00:35:54.508 --> 00:35:57.678
  • Not arrogantly but yougot to know who you are
  • 00:35:57.678 --> 00:36:02.083
  • so you can step up to whoyou were created to be
  • 00:36:02.083 --> 00:36:04.418
  • and it starts in our mind.
  • 00:36:04.418 --> 00:36:06.187
  • I mentioned about how,
  • 00:36:06.187 --> 00:36:08.589
  • when I stepped up topastor the church,
  • 00:36:08.589 --> 00:36:10.224
  • every thought told me, nobody'sgonna listen to you Joel.
  • 00:36:10.224 --> 00:36:13.361
  • Why do you think peopleare going to come?
  • 00:36:13.361 --> 00:36:14.996
  • Your dad ministeredfor 40 years?
  • 00:36:14.996 --> 00:36:16.931
  • I mean, just all thatnegative, but you know what?
  • 00:36:16.931 --> 00:36:18.666
  • None of it was truewhen I turn that off,
  • 00:36:18.666 --> 00:36:21.802
  • it's not onlyreleasing your faith
  • 00:36:21.802 --> 00:36:24.171
  • but it does somethingto your self image.
  • 00:36:24.171 --> 00:36:25.973
  • I put my shoulders back andI walked up that podium.
  • 00:36:25.973 --> 00:36:28.509
  • I think, you know what?
  • 00:36:28.509 --> 00:36:29.443
  • These people are gonna like me.
  • 00:36:29.443 --> 00:36:30.478
  • I have something to say.
  • 00:36:30.478 --> 00:36:31.946
  • And really lot of thestuff that I was thinking
  • 00:36:31.946 --> 00:36:34.515
  • and believing at thetime, it wasn't true.
  • 00:36:34.515 --> 00:36:36.751
  • But as you keep believing it,
  • 00:36:36.751 --> 00:36:38.486
  • you're moving toward it,you're pulling it in.
  • 00:36:38.486 --> 00:36:40.921
  • It's your faith being released.
  • 00:36:40.921 --> 00:36:42.523
  • I'm not saying when we makethese statements, I'm blessed.
  • 00:36:42.523 --> 00:36:45.459
  • I'm strong, I'm healthy.
  • 00:36:45.459 --> 00:36:46.861
  • You may not feel that way
  • 00:36:46.861 --> 00:36:48.095
  • but that's whatfaith is all about.
  • 00:36:48.095 --> 00:36:49.697
  • You keep declaring it.
  • 00:36:49.697 --> 00:36:50.998
  • You keep believing it.
  • 00:36:50.998 --> 00:36:52.533
  • Really many of thethings 20 years ago
  • 00:36:52.533 --> 00:36:55.303
  • before I was a pastor,
  • 00:36:55.303 --> 00:36:56.570
  • all those thoughts thattold me that I couldn't
  • 00:36:56.570 --> 00:36:59.340
  • those thoughts that whenI believed that I could,
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  • they've come topass and even more
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  • that's God exceedingour expectations.
  • 00:37:03.311 --> 00:37:05.413
  • That's exactly right.
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  • I love to sum it up by saying,
  • 00:37:06.580 --> 00:37:08.883
  • if you think you can
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  • or if you think youcan't, you're right.
  • 00:37:10.451 --> 00:37:12.787
  • And of course,
  • 00:37:12.787 --> 00:37:14.255
  • that was a great HenryFord, who would say that.
  • 00:37:14.255 --> 00:37:16.424
  • So why not think we can,even if we're the only one,
  • 00:37:16.424 --> 00:37:21.429
  • guess who's on our side andthat's really, really exciting.
  • 00:37:22.830 --> 00:37:26.067
  • So pastor Joel,
  • 00:37:26.067 --> 00:37:27.702
  • we are privileged toprovide this program,
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  • "Hold On To Hope" to commemoratethe anniversary of 9/11.
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  • When we look back at 9/11,share with the viewers,
  • 00:37:37.345 --> 00:37:40.047
  • some of the lessons that welearned that we can apply
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  • in today's seasonof uncertainty.
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  • - Yeah, pastor Rick,
  • 00:37:47.188 --> 00:37:48.456
  • I think there areprobably many lessons.
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  • One that comes to my mindis that God is faithful.
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  • That he will see us through.
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  • I think it helps us tokeep the right perspective
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  • 'cause we all go throughtimes when you think back
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  • to 9/11 if you were aliveand old enough, it felt dark.
  • 00:38:02.136 --> 00:38:05.940
  • It felt like, wow, we'renever gonna be the same.
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  • And how are wegonna move forward?
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  • But you know what?
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  • God knows how toturn things around.
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  • He gives us strengthfor every battle.
  • 00:38:14.115 --> 00:38:16.016
  • So one take away is even inthose dark seasons of life
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  • to know that that's not the end.
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  • I believe that I like thissaying, somebody says,
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  • God always ends in all is well,
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  • if all is not well,then it's not the end.
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  • You keep moving forward.
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  • And I think whathappens sometimes, Rick,
  • 00:38:30.931 --> 00:38:34.101
  • that the scripture says thatGod has written every day
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  • of our life in his book.
  • 00:38:36.904 --> 00:38:38.506
  • So it's been written.
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  • Well, we come to achapter that's, it'sa difficult chapter.
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  • You've gone through loss.
  • 00:38:43.511 --> 00:38:44.678
  • We've had difficultthings happen.
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  • I think sometimes we getstuck on that chapter.
  • 00:38:46.013 --> 00:38:48.015
  • Oh wow, 9/11 hit or I've gotthis setback in my finances
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  • or I've got thisbad medical report.
  • 00:38:52.052 --> 00:38:53.988
  • My encouragement is don'tget stuck on that page.
  • 00:38:53.988 --> 00:38:56.257
  • Keep turning the page.
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  • God, you're in control.
  • 00:38:57.425 --> 00:38:58.893
  • In other words, keepdoing the right thing.
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  • Keep giving God praise, keepbeing good to other people,
  • 00:39:00.694 --> 00:39:03.364
  • keep having a smile whenyou could be discouraged.
  • 00:39:03.364 --> 00:39:05.833
  • Well, as you turn that page,
  • 00:39:05.833 --> 00:39:07.067
  • you're gonna comeinto another chapter
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  • 'cause that's not the end.
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  • Your chapter, your bookis gonna end in victory.
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  • God always calls us to triumph.
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  • - That's exactly right.
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  • What a powerful word,
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  • especially when youconsider the fact that
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  • the devil doesn't wantus to be victorious.
  • 00:39:18.712 --> 00:39:21.115
  • And so here's a powerfulword that I remind myself of
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  • the devil will never lead you
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  • to the hope found atthe revelation of Jesus.
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  • The devil will always attemptto lead you to destruction
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  • but we have overcomethe forces of this world
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  • by holding on tohope and claiming
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  • that hope found only in Jesus.
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  • You have time forone more question?
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  • - Sure, sure.
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  • - I want you to think notof a setting in a studio
  • 00:39:46.941 --> 00:39:50.411
  • but being on ourlast leg at home.
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  • Some folks are watchingus from a hospital room.
  • 00:39:56.317 --> 00:39:59.086
  • Some folks might be listening.
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  • - To us in a jail cell.
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  • I know that there wereseasons in my life
  • 00:40:02.690 --> 00:40:05.493
  • where I'm watchingTBN and I'm thinking,
  • 00:40:05.493 --> 00:40:09.063
  • "I don't know if I cansurvive these circumstances."
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  • Give people a wordof hope, Pastor Joel.
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  • - I'd love to. Andlet me tell you this.
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  • God has you in thepalm of his hand,
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  • nothing you're facingis a surprise to him.
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  • He knows right where you are.
  • 00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:24.378
  • He knows the challenges.
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  • He knows maybe who'scome against you
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  • or what you're facing right now.
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  • Let me tell you,
  • 00:40:30.551 --> 00:40:31.485
  • he's concerned about you.
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  • So you've got to know Godhas not forgotten about you.
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  • Sometimes you feel like wellwhere is God in all this?
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  • I can't explain it all,
  • 00:40:39.126 --> 00:40:40.594
  • but I know this, God is stillin control of your life.
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  • You wouldn't be alive unlessGod had another victory
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  • up in front of you.
  • 00:40:46.600 --> 00:40:47.902
  • So like we've beentalking about,
  • 00:40:47.902 --> 00:40:49.436
  • if you can do your bestto just stir up that hope.
  • 00:40:49.436 --> 00:40:52.006
  • 'Cause I think theoptions, Pastor Rick,
  • 00:40:52.006 --> 00:40:53.641
  • is you can get bitter,
  • 00:40:53.641 --> 00:40:55.175
  • you can live discouraged,you can give up on life,
  • 00:40:55.175 --> 00:40:57.211
  • give up on your dreams,
  • 00:40:57.211 --> 00:40:58.779
  • but that's just going to pullyou down into more negativity.
  • 00:40:58.779 --> 00:41:01.081
  • That's the trick of the enemy.
  • 00:41:01.081 --> 00:41:02.383
  • Where you justget more depressed
  • 00:41:02.383 --> 00:41:03.918
  • and sink deeper and get angry.
  • 00:41:03.918 --> 00:41:05.553
  • Or you can say, God, Imay not understand this,
  • 00:41:05.553 --> 00:41:08.389
  • but I believe you stillhave good plans for me.
  • 00:41:08.389 --> 00:41:10.891
  • I believe somehow youcan turn this around.
  • 00:41:10.891 --> 00:41:13.427
  • As faith rises in your heart,just a mustard seed faith.
  • 00:41:13.427 --> 00:41:16.497
  • You don't have tohave great faith.
  • 00:41:16.497 --> 00:41:17.631
  • Just have a little bit of faith.
  • 00:41:17.631 --> 00:41:18.766
  • Just call out to God.
  • 00:41:18.766 --> 00:41:20.367
  • And Rick and I can both attest
  • 00:41:20.367 --> 00:41:21.969
  • God can do amazing things.
  • 00:41:21.969 --> 00:41:23.871
  • He took my motherfrom a bed of cancer
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  • and gave her 40years. That was an 81.
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  • He's turned thingsaround in our lives.
  • 00:41:30.110 --> 00:41:31.946
  • He can do the same for you.
  • 00:41:31.946 --> 00:41:33.414
  • So keep believing, knowthat we're praying for you.
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  • There are good days up ahead.
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  • We just believeyou're going to see
  • 00:41:37.918 --> 00:41:39.219
  • the God of the breakthrough,
  • 00:41:39.219 --> 00:41:40.788
  • the God of the turnaroundbegin to do amazing things
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  • in your life.
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  • - I mean, we hold onto the whole found at
  • 00:41:44.692 --> 00:41:47.027
  • the revelation of Jesus.
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  • Thank you so muchfor your time, Joel.
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  • - Awesome to be with you.
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  • ♪ You alone can take my scars
  • 00:41:52.600 --> 00:41:56.770
  • ♪ Piece by piece,restore my heart ♪
  • 00:41:56.770 --> 00:42:01.675
  • ♪ Take what's broken,make it whole again ♪
  • 00:42:02.876 --> 00:42:06.847
  • ♪ Your power and your presence
  • 00:42:12.353 --> 00:42:17.358
  • ♪ Breaks strongholds,King of Heaven ♪
  • 00:42:18.492 --> 00:42:22.396
  • ♪ When you speak,mountains move ♪
  • 00:42:23.597 --> 00:42:27.635
  • ♪ I believe there willbe breakthrough, oh-oh ♪
  • 00:42:27.635 --> 00:42:32.640
  • ♪ There will be breakthrough
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  • ♪ In Jesus name
  • 00:42:43.283 --> 00:42:48.288
  • ♪ Shake the mountains,break the walls apart ♪
  • 00:42:50.457 --> 00:42:55.429
  • ♪ Open the Heavens,Almighty God you are ♪
  • 00:42:56.664 --> 00:43:00.501
  • ♪ Overcomer, defenderof my heart ♪
  • 00:43:01.568 --> 00:43:04.738
  • ♪ By your power, theoceans open wide ♪
  • 00:43:10.577 --> 00:43:15.549
  • ♪ Your fire falls down,heaven and earth collide ♪
  • 00:43:15.549 --> 00:43:20.554
  • ♪ King Jesus,forever by my side ♪
  • 00:43:21.689 --> 00:43:24.725
  • - [Singer] He saidthe name of Jesus.
  • 00:43:26.627 --> 00:43:29.196
  • ♪ The mountains move
  • 00:43:29.196 --> 00:43:31.065
  • ♪ Shake the mountains,break the walls apart ♪
  • 00:43:31.065 --> 00:43:35.736
  • ♪ Open the Heavens,Almighty God you are ♪
  • 00:43:35.736 --> 00:43:40.741
  • ♪ Overcomer, defenderof my heart ♪
  • 00:43:41.809 --> 00:43:46.180
  • ♪ By your power, theoceans open wide ♪
  • 00:43:50.984 --> 00:43:55.823
  • ♪ Your fire falls down,heaven and earth collide ♪
  • 00:43:55.823 --> 00:44:00.794
  • ♪ King Jesus,forever by my side ♪
  • 00:44:01.929 --> 00:44:05.999
  • ♪ Yeah
  • 00:44:07.367 --> 00:44:11.205
  • ♪ Your power and your presence
  • 00:44:11.205 --> 00:44:16.210
  • ♪ Breaks strongholds,King of heaven ♪
  • 00:44:17.344 --> 00:44:21.248
  • ♪ When you speak,mountains move ♪
  • 00:44:21.248 --> 00:44:26.253
  • ♪ I believe therewill be breakthrough ♪
  • 00:44:27.421 --> 00:44:31.258
  • ♪ Oh-oh
  • 00:44:31.892 --> 00:44:33.393
  • ♪ Chains are falling down
  • 00:44:46.106 --> 00:44:50.878
  • ♪ Sickness, you have to leave
  • 00:44:50.878 --> 00:44:55.282
  • ♪ In the name of Jesus
  • 00:44:55.282 --> 00:45:00.287
  • ♪ Oh every principality
  • 00:45:01.188 --> 00:45:04.992
  • ♪ You must leave, inthe name of Jesus ♪
  • 00:45:04.992 --> 00:45:09.997
  • ♪ In the name of Jesus
  • 00:45:10.764 --> 00:45:15.269
  • ♪ In the name of Jesus
  • 00:45:19.740 --> 00:45:22.976
  • ♪ Mountains move
  • 00:45:32.019 --> 00:45:34.454
  • ♪ I believe therewill be breakthrough ♪
  • 00:45:34.454 --> 00:45:39.026
  • ♪ There will be breakthrough
  • 00:45:47.301 --> 00:45:51.872
  • ♪ Oh-oh
  • 00:45:51.872 --> 00:45:56.877
  • ♪ There will be breakthrough
  • 00:45:58.245 --> 00:46:01.915
  • - Throughout thisspecial TBN program,
  • 00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:08.121
  • Pastor Joel and I reallytried to encourage you
  • 00:46:08.121 --> 00:46:11.391
  • to hold on to hope,
  • 00:46:11.391 --> 00:46:13.126
  • to feel and experiencethe power of hope.
  • 00:46:13.126 --> 00:46:17.564
  • Hope is that quality thatGod put inside of us.
  • 00:46:17.564 --> 00:46:22.569
  • And the demand, especiallyduring times of uncertainty
  • 00:46:24.004 --> 00:46:27.808
  • is placed upon us toactivate that hope.
  • 00:46:27.808 --> 00:46:31.445
  • Friend, that's powerful.
  • 00:46:31.445 --> 00:46:33.714
  • That's life changing.That's transformative.
  • 00:46:33.714 --> 00:46:36.717
  • For me, hope is notwish fulfillment.
  • 00:46:36.717 --> 00:46:39.620
  • Hope is not a fleeting thought.
  • 00:46:39.620 --> 00:46:42.522
  • Hope bailed me outfrom rock bottom.
  • 00:46:42.522 --> 00:46:45.726
  • Let me tell you my story.
  • 00:46:45.726 --> 00:46:48.762
  • Friends, I wasn't alwaysin front of the camera.
  • 00:46:48.762 --> 00:46:51.431
  • For many years of my life,
  • 00:46:52.299 --> 00:46:55.202
  • I was the audience wonderinghow I was going to make it
  • 00:46:55.202 --> 00:47:00.207
  • through the wilderness.
  • 00:47:01.108 --> 00:47:02.576
  • My story begins backin Northern California
  • 00:47:02.576 --> 00:47:06.079
  • with Godly parents whotaught us the word of God.
  • 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:10.617
  • Godly parents.
  • 00:47:10.617 --> 00:47:12.119
  • My father was the wisest manI've ever met in my life,
  • 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.688
  • a third grade dropout.I have four degrees.
  • 00:47:14.688 --> 00:47:18.158
  • My brother is apresidential appointed judge
  • 00:47:18.158 --> 00:47:20.627
  • in Washington DC.
  • 00:47:20.627 --> 00:47:22.396
  • We weren't the smartestones in our family.
  • 00:47:22.396 --> 00:47:24.932
  • My father withthat Godly wisdom.
  • 00:47:24.932 --> 00:47:27.634
  • My mother with that steadfastfaith formed a union
  • 00:47:27.634 --> 00:47:32.639
  • that challenged us tobe the best we could be.
  • 00:47:34.041 --> 00:47:37.678
  • But how many of you know, youhit road bumps along the way?
  • 00:47:37.678 --> 00:47:41.148
  • Let me tell you such a roadbump to help you understand
  • 00:47:41.148 --> 00:47:44.818
  • why hope is powerful to me.
  • 00:47:44.818 --> 00:47:48.555
  • Back in the 70's,
  • 00:47:48.555 --> 00:47:50.390
  • I met the finest woman thatI had ever met in my life,
  • 00:47:50.390 --> 00:47:54.328
  • a brick house.
  • 00:47:54.328 --> 00:47:55.562
  • That's what we referredto women back then as.
  • 00:47:55.562 --> 00:47:59.199
  • And I remember being at a dance
  • 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.935
  • and thinking about askingthis woman to dance.
  • 00:48:01.935 --> 00:48:05.205
  • I was dressed.
  • 00:48:05.205 --> 00:48:06.707
  • I had on a purple leisure suitwith purple platform shoes.
  • 00:48:06.707 --> 00:48:10.043
  • Y'all, I lookedlike a black Barney.
  • 00:48:10.043 --> 00:48:11.945
  • Anyway, I gingerly walk onthe dance floor toward her.
  • 00:48:11.945 --> 00:48:16.950
  • I introduced myself. I said,"My name is Ricky Rigsby."
  • 00:48:18.385 --> 00:48:20.420
  • She said, "My nameis Trina Williams."
  • 00:48:20.420 --> 00:48:22.189
  • I said, "May I dance with you?"
  • 00:48:22.189 --> 00:48:23.557
  • She said, "Sure."
  • 00:48:23.557 --> 00:48:24.958
  • In the middle of the dance,
  • 00:48:24.958 --> 00:48:26.460
  • I got carried away and askedher for her phone number.
  • 00:48:26.460 --> 00:48:28.795
  • Do you know that Trinawas the first woman,
  • 00:48:28.795 --> 00:48:31.565
  • actually the only womanin college who gave me
  • 00:48:31.565 --> 00:48:33.834
  • her actual realtelephone number.
  • 00:48:33.834 --> 00:48:36.503
  • Called her the next day,
  • 00:48:36.503 --> 00:48:37.838
  • we went on a date toBaskin-Robbins ice cream parlor.
  • 00:48:37.838 --> 00:48:41.074
  • We started going together.The next thing you know,
  • 00:48:41.074 --> 00:48:44.611
  • I proposed, and to everyone'sshock, she said yes.
  • 00:48:44.611 --> 00:48:48.849
  • We were living theAmerican dream.
  • 00:48:48.849 --> 00:48:51.685
  • We get marriedand saved in 1978.
  • 00:48:51.685 --> 00:48:56.690
  • And a few years later,
  • 00:48:57.424 --> 00:48:58.692
  • God blesses us withtwo wonderful sons.
  • 00:48:58.692 --> 00:49:01.361
  • We're living the Americandream until one day,
  • 00:49:01.361 --> 00:49:05.599
  • Trina finds a lump in herleft breast, breast cancer.
  • 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.203
  • Six years later,
  • 00:49:10.203 --> 00:49:11.905
  • me and my two sons walkedup to mommy's casket.
  • 00:49:11.905 --> 00:49:14.841
  • If it wasn't for the Lord, Iwouldn't be here this hour.
  • 00:49:16.309 --> 00:49:19.312
  • If you're struggling,if you have no hope,
  • 00:49:19.312 --> 00:49:21.882
  • if you have no reasonfor which to hope,
  • 00:49:21.882 --> 00:49:23.950
  • you have a friend in me.
  • 00:49:23.950 --> 00:49:25.719
  • Keep listening.
  • 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.220
  • If it wasn't for those boys,I'd have probably lost my way,
  • 00:49:27.220 --> 00:49:30.924
  • but it was the wisdom ofa third grade dropout.
  • 00:49:30.924 --> 00:49:33.994
  • It was the perspectiveof a third grade dropout.
  • 00:49:33.994 --> 00:49:37.464
  • It was the words ofa third grade dropout
  • 00:49:37.464 --> 00:49:40.133
  • who sustained me at the casket.
  • 00:49:40.133 --> 00:49:42.436
  • I remember tellingmy father, I said,
  • 00:49:42.436 --> 00:49:44.771
  • "Dad, I've lost hope."
  • 00:49:44.771 --> 00:49:47.607
  • He said, "Son, you can'tlose something God gave you.
  • 00:49:47.607 --> 00:49:51.645
  • You haven't lost hope,you've lost perspective."
  • 00:49:51.645 --> 00:49:55.649
  • And then my dad said threewords that changed my life.
  • 00:49:55.649 --> 00:49:59.252
  • He said, "Son."
  • 00:49:59.252 --> 00:50:00.320
  • - Just stand.
  • 00:50:01.388 --> 00:50:02.889
  • I'm encouraging eachand every one of you
  • 00:50:02.889 --> 00:50:05.625
  • in a situation
  • 00:50:05.625 --> 00:50:07.427
  • that seemingly feels hopeless.
  • 00:50:07.427 --> 00:50:12.432
  • If you're watching tonight,if you're still breathing,
  • 00:50:12.732 --> 00:50:17.704
  • you still havehope, keep standing.
  • 00:50:18.004 --> 00:50:20.674
  • I kept standing, you're notgonna believe what happened.
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  • A couple of years later,
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  • I'm at the altar withthe most beautiful woman
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  • I've ever met in my life.
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  • That's right.
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  • As a matter of fact, thefirst thing Janet did after
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  • we got married was sheadopted my little boys.
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  • She adopted them,fulfilling Trina's last wish
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  • that her babies not gothrough life without a mommy.
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  • And then we had more children.
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  • More boys, right?
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  • But this is what Iwant you to remember.
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  • And I want you to hold onto hope by remembering this.
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  • Don't ever forget this.
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  • I learned hope from athird grade dropout.
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  • I watched hopefrom a dying wife.
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  • Two days before Trina died, nohair because of chemotherapy,
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  • a tummy that pooched outbecause of a liver not working.
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  • She weighed about 80 pounds.
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  • I remember as ifit was yesterday
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  • though it was 24 years ago.
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  • I'm keeping an eye out forTrina as I'm preparing lunch
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  • and she's surroundedby pillows on the couch
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  • in the family room.
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  • I notice our then youngestson, Andrew walked down
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  • the staircase witha wrinkled shirt.
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  • And this is what I heard next.
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  • I heard his mother say,
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  • "Andrew, momma not always
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  • gonna be here to help you."
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  • She was sayinggoodbye to her baby.
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  • I waited for Andrew toleave and then I walked over
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  • and I sat next toTrina on the couch.
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  • Without her breathing laboredas clearly as I'm speaking
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  • to you right now,
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  • these were some of myfirst wife's last words.
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  • She looked me in theeye and she said,
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  • "Ricky, it doesn'tmatter to me any longer,
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  • "how long I live.
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  • "What matters most
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  • is how I live."
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  • That is hope personified.
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  • We knew barring a miracle,
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  • the time of Trina'sdeparture had come.
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  • She was a nurse.
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  • She understood that butyet facing her own death,
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  • her hope was firmlyplanted in Christ.
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  • My question to you isthis, how are you living?
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  • How are you living?
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  • I know that there are someof you who are watching
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  • and you may not know thisJesus that can give you hope,
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  • despite the mosthorrific circumstances.
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  • Let me lead you ina prayer right now.
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  • Simply say, dear Jesus,
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  • I believe that you'rethe Son of God.
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  • I confess you with my tongue
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  • and I believe in my heart.
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  • Come into my life.
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  • Be my Savior, be my Lord.
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  • Fill me with your Holy Spirit
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  • and give me that hope
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  • that Pastor Rickhas talked about,
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  • that Pastor Joel has proclaimed.
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  • Friend if that's you,welcome to the family.
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  • Get in a good Biblebelieving church
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  • and start actively living thetransformative power of hope.
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  • There's another group of people.
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  • I know because I was in thisgroup and you're saying,
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  • Rick, that sounds good
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  • but my circumstancesare beyond repair.
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  • Nothing can changewhat I'm facing.
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  • I beg to differ.
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  • All evidence to the contrary.
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  • As we have talkedtonight about David,
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  • about Ruth, aboutJeremiah and about Job.
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  • You see something differentthan your circumstances.
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  • In these cases, yousee very common people
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  • who filled withthe power of God,
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  • did some ratherextraordinary things
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  • motivated by thehope found in Christ.
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  • If you are searching forhope, I've got great news.
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  • Search no longer.
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  • Hope is already inside of you.
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  • All you have todo is activate it.
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  • Pastor Rick, howdo I activate it?
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  • With courage, with faith
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  • and like Job by makingan immediate decisive
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  • response to believe.
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  • Despite what you see,despite what you feel,
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  • friend, hold on to hope.
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  • May it not be the hope of thisworld but the hope only found
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  • at the revelation of our Lordand Savior, Jesus Christ.
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  • Hold on to hope, His hope.
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  • May God richly bless you.
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  • (upbeat music)
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