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The Lifestyle Change: Nyjah's Story Part 2

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May 29, 2017
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Living by Faith with Mike & DeeDee Freeman

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The Lifestyle Change: Nyjah's Story Part 2

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  • We're again are so elated to have this opportunity
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  • to share with you - [DeeDee] Yes we are.
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  • - [Mike] the living word of God.
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  • Now there's a different format going on here today
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  • because like if you were a part of our last episode
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  • you will know some exciting things have transpired.
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  • So we'll be right back to let you in
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  • on the continuation of our last episode.
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  • Call somebody, you will not regret it.
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  • Today, on Living by Faith...
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  • - I had my first sexual encounter with a woman
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  • - [Voiceover] Okay.
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  • - when I was young at the babysitter.
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  • It was like a teenage girl
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  • that she kept after school,
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  • and you know, she would help her
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  • with the little ones after school.
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  • - [Voiceover] Oh my.
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  • - So we spent a lot of time together.
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  • We went out together.
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  • But she knew that I was not about that lifestyle.
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  • - [Voiceover] But was she?
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  • - Yeah but she was.
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  • - [Voiceover] Okay.
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  • - She was.
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  • - Oh so she turned you out?
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  • - At the very beginning was probably the hardest
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  • was because I was still very new within the lifestyle
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  • and Holy Spirit the entire time was talking to me.
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  • So I knew that I was making a bad decision
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  • or something that I knew better than.
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  • My mom was very emotional.
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  • - She said her dreams were being shattered
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  • as it relates to your life
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  • and what she raised you to become,
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  • a wife, a grandmother.
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  • You're going to enjoy every bit of this.
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  • - We told you that you were gonna
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  • have an opportunity to meet Nyjah's husband.
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  • How 'bout that?
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  • And he's here.
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  • - He's here!
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  • - Right now.
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  • Welcome to the set,
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  • Mr. Joseph Rollins.
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  • How about you.
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  • Yeah, yeah, yeah. - [DeeDee] We need a
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  • - [DeeDee] clap machine.
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  • (everyone laughs)
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  • - How about you?
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  • So there are tons of things
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  • that I would like to ask you.
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  • The whole world wants to know.
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  • Like, come on, what?
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  • You when, how?
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  • You know, why?
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  • What did your parents say?
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  • What did your people.
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  • I mean talk, you knew like Nyjah said.
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  • You'd been in her life since you all were little lads.
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  • Little lads, I mean how old is that term?
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  • - That's only a year old.
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  • - Okay, so when, when did you first know?
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  • I mean tell us about the school yard
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  • crush or something.
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  • I mean...
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  • I got too many questions. - [DeeDee] Too many
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  • - [DeeDee] questions at one time!
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  • Everybody has the same amount of questions.
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  • Talk to us Joe.
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  • - So I will say, like me and Nyjah,
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  • we met at a mixed martial arts academy.
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  • So Nyjah was like that,
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  • you know like there's always that person
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  • at school that everybody just wants that one girl.
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  • Like everyone wants her.
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  • - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  • - And that's basically with Nyjah.
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  • - Well that's how DeeDee was with me.
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  • She was that way, everybody wants that one guy.
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  • - [DeeDee] Yeah, that's true.
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  • - But how old were you?
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  • - But how old were you?
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  • - I was about 14.
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  • - [Mike] 14. - [DeeDee] Wow.
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  • - And I would always notice Nyjah
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  • and I would look at her.
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  • And I would have friends that I was really
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  • close with at my martial arts academy
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  • that I always talk to about Nyjah.
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  • - Right, right, right.
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  • - [Joe] You know, I'm gonna marry her one day.
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  • - You were saying that then.
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  • - Oh yeah, I was telling everyone.
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  • Like when they knew, it came to points
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  • Like when they knew, it came to points
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  • where when I was in college,
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  • they'll say or I'll ask how's my wife doing?
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  • And I'm like, "She's here, she's still competing,
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  • "she's still training."
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  • - No way.
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  • - I was in already.
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  • - That is faith personified. - [DeeDee] Yeah that's great.
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  • - [Mike] I love the whole faith walk.
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  • - And then it came to a point where
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  • I ended up coming back or going back
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  • to martial arts academy in between school.
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  • And I would always get updates.
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  • So how's my wife doing?
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  • Oh your wife's here, your wife's at school.
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  • - So he had everybody in the group
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  • already at their point.
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  • - They knew what it was, she just didn't know.
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  • - How cool is that?
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  • - And I was going up to the school
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  • And she just didn't know so,
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  • it came to a point where I was about to graduate school
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  • I would notice little snippets where
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  • I was always interested in Nyjah but
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  • I could never really get her attention.
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  • But I didn't want to pursue it because
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  • I didn't want to shoot.
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  • You only get one good shot when it's like
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  • the person so you have to plan every strategic.
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  • So I was like how am I going to--
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  • - Make that shot work.
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  • - Make my shot work.
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  • So after a while, one time actually,
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  • Nyjah had to do an interview for me, or of me
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  • at the martial arts academy
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  • about my experience there.
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  • 'Cause I've been there for like 17 years.
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  • So when she was doing that I'm just gazing at her.
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  • She's asking me questions I'm just looking at her.
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  • - And this is one on one?
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  • - Right, but I'm actually interviewing her
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  • while she's trying to interview me.
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  • So I'm like, "Oh what kind of tattoos do you,
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  • "oh what does that tattoo mean
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  • "or why did you get it?
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  • "What's your goals, what do you want to do with life?"
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  • So I'm just asking her all these questions
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  • and I think that was the first time,
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  • and correct me if I'm wrong.
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  • But I think that was the first time that Nyjah
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  • really understood and saw that I was
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  • really trying to--
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  • - Interested, yeah.
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  • - Right, and then coincidentally when I graduated
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  • that summer we both happen to work
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  • in the same group for the summer camp period.
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  • And I was like okay, here we go.
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  • And then I just, you know,
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  • every day we would go on little trips
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  • and I would just communicate with her.
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  • I was always talking, trying to dig into.
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  • I kinda wanted to go past the surface.
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  • I didn't really wanna--
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  • - At this time is she aware of your--
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  • - Interest.
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  • - Interest. - [Joe] Yes.
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  • - [Joe] She's aware now.
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  • - She is, but she's not budging.
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  • - Oh no, 'cause I'm younger than her.
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  • So her mindset is, oh no he's too young.
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  • She actually would say that.
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  • "Oh no you're too young."
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  • Like you gotta give me a fair shot.
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  • So she was aware and,
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  • I guess I think what really caught Nyjah's attention
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  • was the fact that I never tried to,
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  • I kinda got past the outside.
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  • You know, I never really asked the normal,
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  • what's your favorite color.
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  • I was like, "What are your goals in life?
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  • "What do you wanna be in the next two years?
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  • "Do you plan on competing forever?"
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  • Like really digging into life rather than
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  • trying to approach her how other people would approach her.
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  • - So let's fast forward though.
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  • I mean I'm liking all of that,
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  • but I didn't know you were a cougar either.
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  • (everyone laughs)
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  • - She's a cougar! - [Mike] But that's all good.
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  • - [Mike] What's the age difference if I may ask?
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  • - Is it four years?
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  • - Four years.
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  • - Four years age difference, that is awesome.
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  • Well okay so when did you find out that
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  • she was in the LGBT Community?
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  • - Well one, I actually didn't know what LGBT meant
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  • until listening to Nyjah talk about it.
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  • But I found about that
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  • midway through college.
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  • I came home for a visit.
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  • You know, doing my thing, how's my wife doing.
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  • "Oh Joe you don't know?"
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  • I'm like "Know what?
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  • "Yeah you know."
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  • They all call Nyjah Miss Nyjah.
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  • But they're like "Miss Nyjah, she talks to girls now."
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  • I said, "What?!"
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  • I said "No, no she doesn't."
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  • He was like "Yeah, she has a girl"--
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  • - No, I mean you were really that calm?
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  • - Like we were already in a relationship like that.
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  • That's how I was acting.
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  • And they was telling that she was doing
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  • whatever she was doing
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  • and it didn't really phase me.
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  • I said "Okay.
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  • "Well you're not worried?"
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  • I said "No, it's just a phase for her."
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  • That's just how I was.
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  • I said "It's a phase for her 'cause we're still going to."
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  • I already know that me and Nyjah are getting married.
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  • This is something she's exploring her options.
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  • So then when I approach her she already--
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  • - But what did that mean to you dog.
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  • I mean you didn't feel any
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  • type of way?
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  • I mean like, it's over.
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  • That didn't seem to bother
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  • you at all, one bit.
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  • It was like, that would have derailed
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  • possibly my interest I'm thinking.
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  • - Well honestly, no.
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  • - I mean your view of her and respect for her didn't change?
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  • - See, I don't judge.
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  • I'm very non-judgmental.
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  • - [Mike] That's what I'm talking about.
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  • - I have, which is interesting because
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  • I grew up with all sisters.
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  • I've experienced anything that can come from a female.
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  • So everything with the lifestyle and all of that.
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  • - You have a lot of sisters too.
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  • How many sisters?
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  • - [Joe] Seven.
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  • - [DeeDee and Mike] Seven sisters.
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  • - So my sister's older than me,
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  • I have phases where I'm talking to them.
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  • I hear about their lifestyle and what they do,
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  • and some are married, and some are living the life.
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  • And it doesn't phase me, I still love them the same way.
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  • I still treat them the same way.
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  • I still care about them the same way.
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  • So when I heard about it with Nyjah, it didn't phase me.
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  • I was like, that's fine.
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  • 'Cause when I'm ready, she'll be ready.
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  • - Now, what I understand, there's this Hong Kong
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  • billionaire who will pay anybody a $100.000.000 plus
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  • to cause his daughter to be straight.
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  • What kind of advice, you know,
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  • what did you tell, do you think you were
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  • instrumental at all in this
  • 00:09:29.260 --> 00:09:32.230
  • turn around for Nyjah?
  • 00:09:32.230 --> 00:09:35.150
  • That's a good question huh?
  • 00:09:36.220 --> 00:09:37.250
  • - That is a good question.
  • 00:09:37.250 --> 00:09:38.240
  • - [Mike] Yeah.
  • 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:39.180
  • - Honestly,
  • 00:09:39.180 --> 00:09:40.190
  • definitely, definitely.
  • 00:09:43.030 --> 00:09:44.070
  • Because I think when someone ends up,
  • 00:09:44.070 --> 00:09:46.290
  • and I wouldn't know I'm not a woman of course.
  • 00:09:46.290 --> 00:09:49.140
  • But when someone ends up going to the
  • 00:09:49.140 --> 00:09:51.130
  • lifestyle of talking to the same sex.
  • 00:09:51.130 --> 00:09:53.170
  • It could be based off of something
  • 00:09:53.170 --> 00:09:54.200
  • that happened in their past.
  • 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:55.280
  • And it could have been something that
  • 00:09:55.280 --> 00:09:57.100
  • happened to them that steered them away from men
  • 00:09:57.100 --> 00:09:59.010
  • or steered them away from women,
  • 00:09:59.010 --> 00:10:00.130
  • which they went to something else more comfortable--
  • 00:10:00.130 --> 00:10:02.160
  • - In a lot of situations that's so.
  • 00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:04.150
  • - Which is what happens and I don't judge at all.
  • 00:10:04.150 --> 00:10:07.160
  • So my mindset is always is if you're
  • 00:10:07.160 --> 00:10:09.240
  • interested in someone,
  • 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.090
  • it doesn't matter what their past is like.
  • 00:10:11.090 --> 00:10:13.050
  • It's what they want in their future,
  • 00:10:13.050 --> 00:10:15.050
  • what are they doing right now. - [Mike] Now that's Jesus
  • 00:10:15.050 --> 00:10:16.180
  • - [Mike] talk right there Joe, that's Jesus talk.
  • 00:10:16.180 --> 00:10:18.220
  • Because He is not interested in any of our pasts.
  • 00:10:18.220 --> 00:10:22.280
  • He tells us to come just like we are
  • 00:10:22.280 --> 00:10:26.050
  • and old things are
  • 00:10:26.050 --> 00:10:28.270
  • - [Mike and DeeDee] past away.
  • 00:10:28.270 --> 00:10:30.240
  • - [Mike] That's the only thing He's interested in our past
  • 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.050
  • is the old things being past away.
  • 00:10:33.050 --> 00:10:36.100
  • So you're now, how did you ever get her attention?
  • 00:10:36.100 --> 00:10:41.080
  • I mean when did the interest begin?
  • 00:10:42.210 --> 00:10:44.240
  • - Well honestly, she got my attention through social media.
  • 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:49.090
  • - [Mike] Okay what?
  • 00:10:49.090 --> 00:10:50.140
  • - So I was always interested in Nyjah
  • 00:10:50.140 --> 00:10:52.040
  • and looking at Nyjah.
  • 00:10:52.040 --> 00:10:53.170
  • She's messaging me like when I would come in town
  • 00:10:53.170 --> 00:10:56.030
  • I would post a picture like I'm getting a new haircut
  • 00:10:56.030 --> 00:10:58.180
  • or something from this area.
  • 00:10:58.180 --> 00:10:59.260
  • Nyjah would comment like "Oh hey, you're around."
  • 00:10:59.260 --> 00:11:02.160
  • - Okay, okay, just hold it right there.
  • 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:03.190
  • Just hold it right there.
  • 00:11:03.190 --> 00:11:04.240
  • We're gonna be right back in a moment
  • 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.200
  • to find out how this thing turns around.
  • 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.210
  • And then we have some more exciting news
  • 00:11:09.210 --> 00:11:12.160
  • tht you will not want to miss.
  • 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:15.030
  • - The institution of marriage is a good thing.
  • 00:11:21.030 --> 00:11:22.010
  • The vow between whatever couples
  • 00:11:22.010 --> 00:11:23.200
  • regarding the sex of a couple or a gender
  • 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.290
  • is between the love that they share,
  • 00:11:25.290 --> 00:11:27.110
  • and it should be validated.
  • 00:11:27.110 --> 00:11:29.180
  • - I agree, we have a great marriage.
  • 00:11:30.140 --> 00:11:33.060
  • - [Voiceover] You guys are married?
  • 00:11:33.060 --> 00:11:34.030
  • - Yep we are. - Yeah.
  • 00:11:34.030 --> 00:11:35.060
  • - [Voiceover] Okay.
  • 00:11:35.060 --> 00:11:36.110
  • - We even do like communication exercises
  • 00:11:36.110 --> 00:11:40.080
  • to just make sure that we're always in sync
  • 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.020
  • and that we're always thinking about
  • 00:11:43.020 --> 00:11:44.250
  • how we're going to grow as a couple,
  • 00:11:44.250 --> 00:11:46.260
  • what we need to work on, so yeah.
  • 00:11:46.260 --> 00:11:49.190
  • - These guys are actually one of my marriage role models
  • 00:11:51.160 --> 00:11:54.230
  • along with my parents, so I think I can learn a lot
  • 00:11:54.230 --> 00:11:57.270
  • from them as well as my parents
  • 00:11:57.270 --> 00:11:59.260
  • on what makes a marriage work
  • 00:11:59.260 --> 00:12:02.010
  • and hopefully succeed at it.
  • 00:12:02.010 --> 00:12:05.010
  • - But you were considered like the
  • 00:12:05.010 --> 00:12:07.160
  • - [Female Speaker] I was the dominant female.
  • 00:12:07.160 --> 00:12:08.260
  • - The dominant female.
  • 00:12:08.260 --> 00:12:10.050
  • You were like the male - In the relationship.
  • 00:12:10.050 --> 00:12:12.060
  • - In relationship.
  • 00:12:12.060 --> 00:12:13.230
  • It still baffles me
  • 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.080
  • why you want a woman
  • 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:21.040
  • but you want a woman with a man tendencies.
  • 00:12:21.040 --> 00:12:24.210
  • So you were supposed to take care of the woman?
  • 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.150
  • - Yes.
  • 00:12:29.150 --> 00:12:30.220
  • And in taking care or trying to take care
  • 00:12:30.220 --> 00:12:33.190
  • of woman, I was broke.
  • 00:12:33.190 --> 00:12:36.040
  • I was real broke.
  • 00:12:36.040 --> 00:12:37.110
  • (audience laughs)
  • 00:12:37.110 --> 00:12:38.060
  • - [Host] What?
  • 00:12:38.060 --> 00:12:39.010
  • - I was broke.
  • 00:12:39.010 --> 00:12:40.090
  • - [Host] You was. (audience laughs)
  • 00:12:40.090 --> 00:12:42.230
  • So she had her a broke chick?
  • 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.020
  • - [Female Speaker] I was broke.
  • 00:12:48.280 --> 00:12:49.230
  • - You were broke.
  • 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:51.080
  • But you said something quite intriguing,
  • 00:12:52.210 --> 00:12:55.150
  • that you were never designed as a woman
  • 00:12:55.150 --> 00:12:59.100
  • to take care of another woman.
  • 00:12:59.100 --> 00:13:00.290
  • - Yes, after having gone through a lot of what,
  • 00:13:00.290 --> 00:13:03.260
  • we all here have been through a lot of things
  • 00:13:03.260 --> 00:13:06.170
  • dealing with the lifestyle homosexuality
  • 00:13:06.170 --> 00:13:08.030
  • that we probably never saw ourselves dealing with.
  • 00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:10.280
  • I came to grips with myself and realized that God
  • 00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:14.040
  • never ordained me and He never equipped for me
  • 00:13:14.040 --> 00:13:16.190
  • to take care of a woman.
  • 00:13:16.190 --> 00:13:18.290
  • - He never equipped you to take care of a woman.
  • 00:13:18.290 --> 00:13:22.100
  • - [Female Speaker] Yes. - Isn't that awesome.
  • 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:24.160
  • But you were like a few steps away
  • 00:13:24.160 --> 00:13:27.130
  • from having a total sex change.
  • 00:13:28.290 --> 00:13:31.190
  • - That is true.
  • 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.020
  • - [Host] Talk to me.
  • 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:35.080
  • - Well, it started back when I was a kid.
  • 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.160
  • I grew up in a broken home where I saw my family
  • 00:13:38.160 --> 00:13:42.150
  • fight pretty much every day,
  • 00:13:42.150 --> 00:13:44.000
  • so domestic violence was very real to me.
  • 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.040
  • - [Host] That's your mom and dad?
  • 00:13:46.040 --> 00:13:47.020
  • - My mom and dad.
  • 00:13:47.020 --> 00:13:48.290
  • When it got to the point to where,
  • 00:13:48.290 --> 00:13:50.240
  • - So it does matter what the parents are doing in the home?
  • 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.060
  • - It does matter, it do.
  • 00:13:53.060 --> 00:13:55.070
  • So the family broke up.
  • 00:13:55.070 --> 00:13:56.260
  • My sister and I, we went to go live with my grandparents.
  • 00:13:56.260 --> 00:13:59.210
  • There was a older cousin in the home, and my older cousin,
  • 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:04.130
  • every night, would sexually abuse me.
  • 00:14:04.130 --> 00:14:06.250
  • He would try to have sex with me
  • 00:14:06.250 --> 00:14:08.130
  • and then I got to the point to where
  • 00:14:08.130 --> 00:14:10.140
  • I couldn't take it no more and I tried to fight him off.
  • 00:14:10.140 --> 00:14:14.180
  • So when I finally fought him off,
  • 00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:17.270
  • I caught him one day on top of my little sister,
  • 00:14:17.270 --> 00:14:19.280
  • and I've always been a protector of my little sister.
  • 00:14:19.280 --> 00:14:22.010
  • - [Host] Wow, wow, wow.
  • 00:14:22.010 --> 00:14:22.290
  • - And so, his words to me were,
  • 00:14:22.290 --> 00:14:25.120
  • "If I can't have you, I'll have her."
  • 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.130
  • So I gave myself to him to protect my little sister.
  • 00:14:28.130 --> 00:14:32.040
  • So I was already dealing with those issues as a young kid.
  • 00:14:32.040 --> 00:14:36.090
  • And then, I've always, you know,
  • 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.120
  • as I got older, I dated girls.
  • 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.080
  • I always had an ex,
  • 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.230
  • - Why couldn't you tell anyone what was going on?
  • 00:14:42.230 --> 00:14:46.030
  • I mean, - [Male Speaker] Fear, shame.
  • 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:47.060
  • - Fear, shame.
  • 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:48.210
  • - I mean I was like, maybe eight or nine-years-old.
  • 00:14:48.210 --> 00:14:51.040
  • - What would you tell a child today
  • 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:53.090
  • who's possibly going through that?
  • 00:14:53.090 --> 00:14:55.100
  • What do they do?
  • 00:14:55.100 --> 00:14:57.060
  • - Run, tell it.
  • 00:14:57.060 --> 00:14:59.010
  • - [Host] Run and tell it.
  • 00:14:59.010 --> 00:14:59.270
  • - Tell it to anyone.
  • 00:14:59.270 --> 00:15:01.060
  • - [Host] They're going to be okay.
  • 00:15:01.060 --> 00:15:02.000
  • - They're gonna be okay.
  • 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:03.070
  • Trust me, you will be okay.
  • 00:15:03.070 --> 00:15:05.290
  • You will be okay.
  • 00:15:05.290 --> 00:15:07.120
  • So, you know, dealing with all of that,
  • 00:15:08.180 --> 00:15:11.040
  • and just kind of confused in who I am or who I was,
  • 00:15:11.040 --> 00:15:15.260
  • not knowing my true identity,
  • 00:15:15.260 --> 00:15:18.130
  • that my true identity was in Christ Jesus.
  • 00:15:18.130 --> 00:15:20.170
  • So, you know, I got to a point to where
  • 00:15:20.170 --> 00:15:23.180
  • I couldn't take the lifestyle no more.
  • 00:15:23.180 --> 00:15:24.290
  • I didn't want the lifestyle anymore.
  • 00:15:24.290 --> 00:15:27.290
  • I reached out, I found a church,
  • 00:15:29.280 --> 00:15:32.020
  • and the discipling piece that you've been teaching on
  • 00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:35.080
  • is so important because there was a lady
  • 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.210
  • who identified me, who knew where I was at,
  • 00:15:37.210 --> 00:15:40.260
  • and she invited me into her home and I'm just like,
  • 00:15:40.260 --> 00:15:44.150
  • "You know, who do that? Who invite a total stranger
  • 00:15:44.150 --> 00:15:47.290
  • "into their home and expose them to their kids
  • 00:15:47.290 --> 00:15:50.090
  • "and to their whole family?"
  • 00:15:50.090 --> 00:15:52.140
  • But she saw something greater in me
  • 00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:54.090
  • than I even saw in myself.
  • 00:15:54.090 --> 00:15:56.220
  • - So, a woman at church recognizes
  • 00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:59.190
  • that you're going through what you're going through.
  • 00:16:00.250 --> 00:16:04.160
  • Is she related, a complete stranger
  • 00:16:04.160 --> 00:16:07.180
  • and she brings you into her home
  • 00:16:07.180 --> 00:16:09.190
  • and begins to disciple you and love you?
  • 00:16:09.190 --> 00:16:12.110
  • and beings to disciple you and love you?
  • 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.160
  • - Exactly.
  • 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.050
  • And I didn't share it at 8 o'clock but
  • 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:20.040
  • that lady now today is standing on the same words
  • 00:16:20.040 --> 00:16:24.120
  • that she spoke into my life.
  • 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.020
  • Because years after I've been delivered set free,
  • 00:16:26.020 --> 00:16:28.290
  • her daughter now is in the lifestyle
  • 00:16:28.290 --> 00:16:31.000
  • and has been married.
  • 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.110
  • So she has to every day renew her hope
  • 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:35.230
  • because she know that the same words
  • 00:16:36.060 --> 00:16:39.140
  • that she spoke over my life are gonna
  • 00:16:39.140 --> 00:16:41.190
  • manifest in her own daughter's life.
  • 00:16:41.190 --> 00:16:44.000
  • So how did she start?
  • 00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:52.140
  • What happened with her interest?
  • 00:16:52.140 --> 00:16:54.000
  • How did she become or when did you know
  • 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.270
  • she was becoming more interested in you?
  • 00:16:56.270 --> 00:17:00.020
  • - Well the first time it was of course,
  • 00:17:00.020 --> 00:17:01.250
  • most of what happened was when I was in college.
  • 00:17:01.250 --> 00:17:03.260
  • It was around my senior, it was one night I was out--
  • 00:17:03.260 --> 00:17:06.170
  • - Football player and all that.
  • 00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:07.230
  • So you're a jock, you start running back
  • 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:10.130
  • the whole nine yeards.
  • 00:17:10.130 --> 00:17:12.120
  • - You could say that.
  • 00:17:12.120 --> 00:17:13.170
  • - Were the guys on the team like,
  • 00:17:13.170 --> 00:17:15.030
  • aware of the fact that you were
  • 00:17:15.030 --> 00:17:17.280
  • you know, digging this lesbian chick?
  • 00:17:17.280 --> 00:17:22.250
  • I mean come on, I mean I just
  • 00:17:23.220 --> 00:17:24.290
  • wanna shoot straight talk.
  • 00:17:24.290 --> 00:17:26.050
  • - Kind of yes and no.
  • 00:17:26.050 --> 00:17:27.120
  • No 'cause no one knew that she was a lesbian,
  • 00:17:27.120 --> 00:17:28.160
  • because I didn't really talk about it
  • 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.260
  • 'cause to me it was a phase.
  • 00:17:29.260 --> 00:17:32.020
  • But two, I didn't bring it up until
  • 00:17:32.020 --> 00:17:35.150
  • it was the time we were out one weekend partying
  • 00:17:35.150 --> 00:17:37.210
  • and I was sitting around with players on my team
  • 00:17:37.210 --> 00:17:39.170
  • and this guy was playing guitar.
  • 00:17:39.170 --> 00:17:41.050
  • So when he's playing guitar I just posted
  • 00:17:41.050 --> 00:17:42.120
  • a video on my instagram page,
  • 00:17:42.120 --> 00:17:44.140
  • and Nyjah happened to...
  • 00:17:44.140 --> 00:17:46.150
  • Did you wave?
  • 00:17:47.110 --> 00:17:48.080
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:17:48.080 --> 00:17:49.200
  • - I think Nyjah waved. - [Nyjah] I just did the hand.
  • 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:51.030
  • - [Joe] She had a little wavy hand in the comment.
  • 00:17:51.030 --> 00:17:52.090
  • So in my mind, that was the first time ever,
  • 00:17:52.090 --> 00:17:54.100
  • ever that she's ever commented on anything that I had.
  • 00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:57.120
  • So I noticed it.
  • 00:17:57.120 --> 00:17:58.260
  • I said okay, and then I was like oh yeah,
  • 00:17:58.260 --> 00:18:00.250
  • my wife just messaged me.
  • 00:18:00.250 --> 00:18:02.000
  • And they're like "What, you have a wife?"
  • 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.060
  • And I was like, "She's gonna be my wife,
  • 00:18:03.060 --> 00:18:04.050
  • "she just doesn't know yet."
  • 00:18:04.050 --> 00:18:05.120
  • So they're laughing at me 'cause of course
  • 00:18:05.120 --> 00:18:07.030
  • people say that all the time.
  • 00:18:07.030 --> 00:18:08.090
  • - But are they going on her page or site?
  • 00:18:08.090 --> 00:18:12.060
  • What is it called?
  • 00:18:12.060 --> 00:18:13.110
  • - Yeah, a site, page, I don't know.
  • 00:18:13.110 --> 00:18:15.140
  • - Profile.
  • 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:16.110
  • - [Mike and DeeDee] Profile!
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:17.160
  • - Not at the time, no not at the time.
  • 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:18.230
  • And then that was the first comment Nyjah did.
  • 00:18:18.230 --> 00:18:22.090
  • Then a while after, shortly after me graduating,
  • 00:18:22.090 --> 00:18:26.130
  • I was actually back home.
  • 00:18:27.170 --> 00:18:28.260
  • And since I came home that was a chance
  • 00:18:28.260 --> 00:18:30.290
  • for Nyjah, I got a haircut.
  • 00:18:30.290 --> 00:18:32.190
  • And after I got a haircut I posted this video
  • 00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:34.040
  • and Nyjah commented on that.
  • 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:35.180
  • - Did you look fly or whatever?
  • 00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:38.000
  • - She didn't say that, go ahead.
  • 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:39.170
  • - I just said "Hey, you're back in town.
  • 00:18:39.170 --> 00:18:41.160
  • "Was he gonna come to the studio?"
  • 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.220
  • - Oh.
  • 00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:45.050
  • - So when I heard that, in my head I was like okay.
  • 00:18:45.050 --> 00:18:48.070
  • - Okay she wants me!
  • 00:18:48.070 --> 00:18:49.220
  • - No, no, but I was going through my page.
  • 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:51.000
  • - Now it's time, she's ready.
  • 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.170
  • - She wants me!
  • 00:18:53.170 --> 00:18:55.020
  • - So at that time Nyjah, were you done
  • 00:18:55.020 --> 00:18:57.130
  • with that particular lifestyle?
  • 00:18:57.130 --> 00:18:59.090
  • - Yes, I had been done for some time.
  • 00:18:59.090 --> 00:19:01.120
  • Because after that I didn't date anyone.
  • 00:19:01.120 --> 00:19:05.020
  • I had gone on one date.
  • 00:19:06.010 --> 00:19:07.020
  • And it was--
  • 00:19:07.020 --> 00:19:08.010
  • (Joe mumbles)
  • 00:19:08.010 --> 00:19:09.110
  • (Mike laughs)
  • 00:19:09.110 --> 00:19:11.140
  • - Yeah, I remember a little--
  • 00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:12.230
  • - But I wasn't dating.
  • 00:19:12.230 --> 00:19:13.230
  • - It wasn't dating.
  • 00:19:13.230 --> 00:19:14.240
  • - I just went out and I told--
  • 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.030
  • - Joe you been checking it out.
  • 00:19:16.030 --> 00:19:17.210
  • - Our first time out was a date.
  • 00:19:17.210 --> 00:19:19.160
  • We're not just going out.
  • 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:21.200
  • - But some of them like I told you
  • 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:22.290
  • it was important to me that my past
  • 00:19:22.290 --> 00:19:26.220
  • you know, remained in the past
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  • and that wasn't going to move into my future.
  • 00:19:28.180 --> 00:19:31.090
  • - Were you fearful of all of that?
  • 00:19:31.090 --> 00:19:33.010
  • - Yes, because I had went out with a guy
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  • that was nice.
  • 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:36.160
  • Someone told me about this guy.
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  • And we had just kinda been texting
  • 00:19:38.140 --> 00:19:41.210
  • and talking for a few weeks
  • 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:43.150
  • and then we had went out on two different dates.
  • 00:19:43.150 --> 00:19:44.280
  • But then our last date that we went on,
  • 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:47.180
  • he approached me about it
  • 00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:49.030
  • but it was in a way like,
  • 00:19:49.030 --> 00:19:50.160
  • "Would you be interested if we had another female?"
  • 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:54.110
  • The conversation just went
  • 00:19:54.110 --> 00:19:56.030
  • like way west. - [Mike] Wow, kinky.
  • 00:19:56.030 --> 00:19:57.280
  • - [Nyjah] And I was like, "Oh bye."
  • 00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:59.210
  • And that was the last time that we ever spoke.
  • 00:19:59.210 --> 00:20:02.000
  • - Because you still were spirit filled loving God
  • 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.250
  • and you knew that was a no-no.
  • 00:20:05.250 --> 00:20:07.230
  • But he said if you pushed it to that limit,
  • 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:11.040
  • and trampled over your conviction
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  • with respect to that.
  • 00:20:13.220 --> 00:20:15.030
  • - Right.
  • 00:20:15.030 --> 00:20:16.100
  • - Let me see where else she would go.
  • 00:20:16.100 --> 00:20:17.240
  • So he was totally disrespectful to you.
  • 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:20.080
  • - And so that then became a concern.
  • 00:20:20.080 --> 00:20:21.270
  • - And thank God you were not so wounded
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  • about who you are and whose you are
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  • that you will stay on this decline.
  • 00:20:26.290 --> 00:20:30.030
  • 'Cause so many women--
  • 00:20:30.030 --> 00:20:31.160
  • - They just get stuck.
  • 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:32.240
  • - After they don't feel well about themselves,
  • 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.090
  • and like now I am unacceptable
  • 00:20:35.090 --> 00:20:37.260
  • in so many ways to myself.
  • 00:20:37.260 --> 00:20:40.160
  • So this guys is showing interest
  • 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:42.130
  • and you get to the place where,
  • 00:20:42.130 --> 00:20:44.030
  • let me do this because he's showing me interest.
  • 00:20:44.030 --> 00:20:46.130
  • - Right.
  • 00:20:46.130 --> 00:20:47.100
  • - But you knew who you were.
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  • Praise God. - [Nyjah] And that happens.
  • 00:20:50.180 --> 00:20:52.110
  • - [Nyjah] Two things, because one when I said I made
  • 00:20:52.110 --> 00:20:53.260
  • a decision to turn away from the lifestyle.
  • 00:20:53.260 --> 00:20:56.140
  • It was that but I made a decision to live right.
  • 00:20:56.140 --> 00:20:58.270
  • - [Mike] Come on.
  • 00:20:58.270 --> 00:20:59.240
  • - And it wasn't enough--
  • 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:01.010
  • - See now what's living right see?
  • 00:21:01.010 --> 00:21:02.180
  • Now to the community they are living right.
  • 00:21:02.180 --> 00:21:06.190
  • Now you're saying that's kinda contradicting
  • 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:10.240
  • from their standpoint because you were saved,
  • 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:14.010
  • spirit filled, as a lesbian.
  • 00:21:14.010 --> 00:21:17.010
  • Were you not living right in your mind?
  • 00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:19.080
  • - I wasn't.
  • 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:20.070
  • - Wow. - [Nyjah] I wasn't.
  • 00:21:20.070 --> 00:21:21.080
  • - So in the heart.
  • 00:21:21.080 --> 00:21:22.110
  • I gotta ask all these questions.
  • 00:21:22.110 --> 00:21:23.210
  • - I know but she got--
  • 00:21:23.210 --> 00:21:25.030
  • - I know, so in the heart of every individual,
  • 00:21:25.030 --> 00:21:29.070
  • right is still being exalted?
  • 00:21:29.070 --> 00:21:32.150
  • - Yes.
  • 00:21:32.150 --> 00:21:33.130
  • - And righteousness.
  • 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:34.110
  • - Yes.
  • 00:21:34.110 --> 00:21:35.200
  • - So even in the lifestyle, as a believer,
  • 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:37.000
  • you felt that I'm in violation.
  • 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.080
  • - Yes, and to be honest,
  • 00:21:40.080 --> 00:21:42.010
  • even within that lifestyle, you will be amazed
  • 00:21:42.010 --> 00:21:45.070
  • how many people in the lifestyle
  • 00:21:45.070 --> 00:21:46.220
  • one, come from a Christian background.
  • 00:21:46.220 --> 00:21:48.280
  • Many who parents are very involved in ministry.
  • 00:21:48.280 --> 00:21:51.180
  • Parents who are pastors. - [Mike] Now you're talking.
  • 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:53.200
  • - [Nyjah] And some of them will even mock and say
  • 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.240
  • you know, they're bona fide Christians,
  • 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:58.200
  • or even some of them who have been scarred
  • 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.230
  • from their parents based upon them
  • 00:22:00.230 --> 00:22:03.160
  • coming out and telling their parents.
  • 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:04.260
  • This is going on, how they're treated.
  • 00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:06.200
  • But so many of them also have the same conviction
  • 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.090
  • because we've had many conversations.
  • 00:22:09.090 --> 00:22:11.250
  • I was one time, in a club,
  • 00:22:11.250 --> 00:22:14.180
  • and this girl got on the mike.
  • 00:22:14.180 --> 00:22:15.290
  • It was like a drag queen type of night.
  • 00:22:15.290 --> 00:22:17.270
  • But she started singing a Yolanda Adams song.
  • 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:18.220
  • - Let's go right back into our broadcast with Nyjah.
  • 00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:22.220
  • - I had my first sexual encounter with a woman.
  • 00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:22.260
  • And there was so many people in there.
  • 00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:23.260
  • And this is the club.
  • 00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:25.080
  • Crying, people in worship.
  • 00:22:25.080 --> 00:22:28.140
  • And this girl got on the mike and she's singing,
  • 00:22:28.140 --> 00:22:30.150
  • and it was like,
  • 00:22:30.150 --> 00:22:31.240
  • in that moment - [Mike] That's the spirit
  • 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:32.240
  • - [Mike] of God.
  • 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.010
  • - [Nyjah] it's like when you see so many people
  • 00:22:34.010 --> 00:22:35.070
  • who are hurt but you see and talk to so many
  • 00:22:35.070 --> 00:22:36.290
  • different people who you can see are from
  • 00:22:36.290 --> 00:22:39.080
  • a Christian background who know the word.
  • 00:22:39.080 --> 00:22:41.230
  • And I think that it's very important that
  • 00:22:41.230 --> 00:22:46.000
  • family members and people--
  • 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:47.270
  • - Come on, the spirit of God is on you right now.
  • 00:22:47.270 --> 00:22:49.210
  • Look into this camera, talk to parents
  • 00:22:49.210 --> 00:22:52.030
  • and tell them exactly what their position
  • 00:22:52.030 --> 00:22:55.010
  • should be if their children are involved in that community.
  • 00:22:55.010 --> 00:22:58.180
  • - As a parent I think it's very important
  • 00:22:58.180 --> 00:23:00.200
  • that one, you draw the line.
  • 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.080
  • One thing that I can compare with my parents
  • 00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:05.120
  • is my dad told me, "I'm always gonna love you.
  • 00:23:05.120 --> 00:23:08.110
  • "And if you're going down the right road,
  • 00:23:08.110 --> 00:23:09.200
  • "I'm gonna walk down that road with you.
  • 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:11.080
  • "But when you decide to go down the wrong road,
  • 00:23:11.080 --> 00:23:13.150
  • "then I'm not gonna be able to take that journey with you.
  • 00:23:13.150 --> 00:23:16.000
  • "But I am always here for you."
  • 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:17.290
  • They never chastised me, - [Mike] Come on, come on.
  • 00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:20.040
  • - [Nyjah] they never called me out of my name.
  • 00:23:20.040 --> 00:23:22.290
  • They always said, "I love you, I don't love the spirit.
  • 00:23:22.290 --> 00:23:26.020
  • "But my love for you never changes."
  • 00:23:26.020 --> 00:23:28.160
  • And when I was with them they always
  • 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.170
  • surrounded me with love.
  • 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:32.050
  • And when I would get into conversation
  • 00:23:32.050 --> 00:23:35.010
  • with my parents,
  • 00:23:35.010 --> 00:23:36.100
  • I have to reiterate that they weren't beating
  • 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.020
  • me over the head and saying like,
  • 00:23:40.020 --> 00:23:41.190
  • "This is what you need to do,"
  • 00:23:41.190 --> 00:23:42.240
  • or "This isn't right because."
  • 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.100
  • They already knew that I knew.
  • 00:23:44.100 --> 00:23:46.120
  • And I knew that my parents were always praying for me.
  • 00:23:46.120 --> 00:23:49.090
  • - Train up a child in a way
  • 00:23:49.090 --> 00:23:51.270
  • so you the parent can have confidence
  • 00:23:51.270 --> 00:23:55.250
  • in what they have placed in the child
  • 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:58.160
  • and release their faith in that capacity.
  • 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.040
  • - Yes.
  • 00:24:01.040 --> 00:24:02.010
  • - Now Joe, at the same time,
  • 00:24:02.010 --> 00:24:03.080
  • what are your parents thinking that now,
  • 00:24:03.080 --> 00:24:06.090
  • "Son, listen, she, what?"
  • 00:24:06.090 --> 00:24:09.290
  • I mean did you have to break the news to them?
  • 00:24:09.290 --> 00:24:12.180
  • I mean was this a hard thing?
  • 00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:14.080
  • I'm talking from a totally innocent
  • 00:24:14.080 --> 00:24:18.030
  • and ignorant position.
  • 00:24:18.030 --> 00:24:20.000
  • Because do you go and tell your mom
  • 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.220
  • that your wife to be is a stripper?
  • 00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:26.130
  • Or to tell her she's a lesbian?
  • 00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:29.040
  • Or to tell her.
  • 00:24:29.040 --> 00:24:30.250
  • And we've gotta come back,
  • 00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:33.180
  • we've gotta come back with them.
  • 00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:35.170
  • We're out of time.
  • 00:24:35.170 --> 00:24:37.060
  • (Mike and DeeDee scream)
  • 00:24:37.060 --> 00:24:38.270
  • I hate this.
  • 00:24:38.270 --> 00:24:40.010
  • Joe and Nyjah will be back
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  • on the next broadcast.
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  • in that area. - [DeeDee] Amen, that's good.
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  • - [DeeDee] Just stay tuned.
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  • the lives of those that we touch everyday.
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  • assisted her in overcoming?
  • 00:27:36.050 --> 00:27:36.260
  • And obviously there'll be other men
  • 00:27:37.010 --> 00:27:40.040
  • and women who will have these same fears.
  • 00:27:40.040 --> 00:27:43.160
  • Have you all had to address them?
  • 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.180
  • You've made it so comfortable for her
  • 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.240
  • and she's never brought it to your attention.
  • 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:50.020
  • - Well I think in the beginning there was a time
  • 00:27:50.020 --> 00:27:52.140
  • where Nyjah hinted to talk about it.
  • 00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:55.180
  • And basically let me know that before now,
  • 00:27:55.180 --> 00:27:58.100
  • years back she was exploring with women.
  • 00:27:58.100 --> 00:28:01.290
  • And it was around the time she had her school.
  • 00:28:02.270 --> 00:28:04.110
  • And I asked her, "Are you passed that now?"
  • 00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:06.010
  • And she said, "Yes."
  • 00:28:06.010 --> 00:28:07.120
  • I said, "Well then that's all we care about."
  • 00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:08.100
  • If her folks know in the future
  • 00:28:08.100 --> 00:28:09.160
  • then we don't need to get into the past.
  • 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.030
  • - And just like that.
  • 00:28:11.030 --> 00:28:12.130