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Praise | April 16, 2018

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April 16, 2018
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Laurie Crouch hosts Christine Caine and Victoria Osteen from Jerusalem, Israel.

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Praise | April 16, 2018

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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT,
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  • "PRAISE" COMES TO YOU FROM THE
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  • TBN STUDIOS IN
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  • - CHRISTINE CAINE: I KNOW WHAT
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  • IT'S LIKE TO HAVE NOT HAD A
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  • GREAT START IN LIFE.
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  • BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU
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  • CAN START BAD AND YOU CAN
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  • FINISH GOOD IN AND THROUGH A
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  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
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  • I'M LIVING PROOF OF THAT.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: YOU KNOW, I
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  • LOVE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE
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  • ENEMY OF OUR SOUL WANTS TO
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  • PARALYZE US.
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  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
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  • - LAURIE: AND I KNOW THAT GOD
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  • WANTS TO BREAK CHAINS OFF OF
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  • PEOPLE'S MINDS AND THEIR HEART.
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  • - VICTORIA OSTEEN: YOU KNOW,
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  • THE THING TO REMEMBER IS IT MAY
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  • BE UNEXPECTED FOR US...
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  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
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  • - VICTORIA: ...BUT IT'S NO
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: DISCOVER
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  • HOW TO EMBRACE THE UNEXPECTED
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  • AND TRUST GOD IS IN CONTROL --
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  • - VICTORIA: WELCOME TO TBN AND
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  • OUR SHOW HERE IN ISRAEL.
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  • I'M SO EXCITED TO BE WITH
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  • LAURIE, WHO IS THE QUEEN OF
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  • TBN...
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  • ...AND MY SWEET, PRECIOUS
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  • FRIEND CHRISTINE CAINE, AND
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  • MYSELF, VICTORIA OSTEEN.
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  • WE ARE DELIGHTED TO BE HERE
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  • TODAY.
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  • LAURIE, THIS IS AMAZING.
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  • THANK YOU FOR INVITING US HERE.
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  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WE'RE SITTIN' HERE, RIGHT ON
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  • THE BALCONY OF TRINITY
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  • BROADCASTING NETWORK STUDIOS
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  • HERE.
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  • WE, UM...ARE JOINING TOGETHER
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  • ON THIS LOVELY HOPE AND GRACE
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  • AND WE DIDN'T WANNA FAIL TO
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  • COME TO YOU TO...JUST...
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  • YOU KNOW, YOU-- YOU RECEIVE
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  • SOMETHING HERE.
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  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
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  • - LAURIE: AND I BELIEVE THAT
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  • YOU BEING WITH US, YOU CAN
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  • RECEIVE IT, TOO.
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  • AND SO, WE'RE JUST EXCITED.
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  • YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF
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  • REALLY, REALLY GOOD THINGS
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  • COMING UP, UH, IN THE NEXT--
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  • WELL, THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA
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  • MAKE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, US
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  • GIRLS, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS
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  • TOGETHER.
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  • UH, WE'RE DOIN'-- WHAT ARE WE
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  • DOIN'?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - CHRISTINE: CAN I TELL THEM?
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  • - LAURIE: SURE.
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  • - CHRISTINE: WELL, OKAY --
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  • I AM SO FIRED UP.
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  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
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  • AND SO, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A
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  • FEW CHICKS HERE.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - CHRISTINE: AND, UM, WE ARE
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  • LAUNCHING "BETTER TOGETHER."
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - CHRISTINE: HOW IS THAT?
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  • AND, BECAUSE, UM, WE REALLY
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  • BELIEVE THAT TOGETHER WE ARE
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  • BETTER.
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  • - LAURIE: WE ARE.
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  • I'M BETTER WITH YOU, I KNOW.
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  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
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  • - CHRISTINE: I'M BETTER WITH
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  • YOU.
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  • AND WE'RE BOTH BETTER WITH
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  • VICTORIA.
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  • - LAURIE: THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - CHRISTINE: THERE'S NO DOUBT
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  • ABOUT THAT.
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  • I WANNA ALSO SAY I--
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  • THANK YOU FOR INVITING US.
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  • - LAURIE: OH...
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  • - CHRISTINE: I JUST NEED TO
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  • PAUSE BECAUSE I'M PINCHING
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  • MYSELF.
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  • I'M SITTING HERE AND JUST A
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  • LITTLE WHILE AGO I WAS FLOATING
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  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - CHRISTINE: I WANT YOU TO
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  • KNOW THAT, UM, I WAS FLOATING
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  • IN THE DEAD SEA.
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  • AND, I WAS PINCHING MYSELF
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  • GOING: I CANNOT BELIEVE WE'RE
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  • IN ISRAEL.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - CHRISTINE: I MEAN, THE WHOLE
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  • HOPE AND GRACE TOUR HAS JUST...
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  • - LAURIE: JUST BEEN AMAZING.
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  • - CHRISTINE: THE PRESENCE OF
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  • GOD...I MEAN...
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  • AND, YOU KNOW,
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  • I'M STILL VERY NEW TO ISRAEL.
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  • THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND TRIP.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - CHRISTINE: AND YOU KEEP
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  • TELLING ME, "CHRISTINE, YOU'VE
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  • AND I HAVE TO TELL YA'LL -- YOU
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  • ARE RIGHT.
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  • - LAURIE: WELL, SHE DID THE,
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  • UM, GARDEN TOMB SERVICE THE
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  • OTHER NIGHT.
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  • AND, OH, MY GOODNESS -- THAT
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  • WAS JUST AMAZING.
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  • SO, TODAY, WE HAVE BEEN, UM,
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  • VERY BUSY.
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  • YOU HAVE BEEN FLOATING IN THE
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  • DEAD SEA.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
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  • - LAURIE: WE BAPTIZED 700-800
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  • PEOPLE TODAY...
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  • - CHRISTINE: GOSH!
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  • - LAURIE: ...THERE IN THE
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  • JORDAN RIVER AND WE'VE JUST
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  • BEEN HAVIN' AN AMAZING TIME.
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  • - VICTORIA: WE WERE AT THE
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  • DAVIDSON THEATRE.
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  • IS THAT CORRECT?
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - VICTORIA: SO, WE'VE BEEN
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  • - CHRISTINE: YES!
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  • - VICTORIA: HAD BEAUTIFUL
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  • CROWDS THERE.
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  • - LAURIE: SOUTHERN STEPS.
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  • - VICTORIA: AT THE SOUTHERN
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  • STEPS.
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  • - LAURIE: YEP.
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  • - VICTORIA: LAST NIGHT, WE
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  • HELP ME OUT.
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  • - CHRISTINE: WELL, AT THE SEA
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  • OF GALILEE--
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  • - LAURIE: SEA OF GALILEE.
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  • - VICTORIA: IS IT?
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  • SO, IT'S THE SEA OF GALILEE, IS
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  • IT?
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - VICTORIA: AND A BEAUTIFUL
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  • THEATRE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE JUST
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  • PREPARED FOR THE PEOPLE ON THIS
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  • TOUR.
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  • - LAURIE: IT'S AMAZING.
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  • - VICTORIA: AND THEY ARE BEING
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  • SO ENRICHED AND SO ENLIGHTENING.
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  • OF COURSE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SO
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  • MUCH MORE OF THAT, IN THE DAYS
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  • TO COME.
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  • - LAURIE: AND THEN, TOMORROW,
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  • WE GO TO CAESAREA, AND THAT'S
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  • AT THE BIG AMPHITHEATRE RIGHT
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  • THERE.
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  • WOW...IT'S JUST...IT'S JUST
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  • BEEN AMAZING.
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  • YOU KNOW, THESE TOURS JUST SEEM
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  • TO GET BETTER AND BETTER.
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  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
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  • - LAURIE: AND IT DOESN'T
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  • REALLY MATTER HOW MANY TIMES
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  • YOU'VE BEEN TO ISRAEL -- EVERY
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  • SINGLE TIME GOD MEETS US HERE
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  • IN SUCH AN AMAZING, FASCINATING
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  • WAY.
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  • BECAUSE, THIS IS GOD'S COUNTRY,
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  • FOLKS.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • SO, WE'RE JUST EXCITED ABOUT
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  • IT.
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  • WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT-- SOMETHING
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  • WE'RE DOING TODAY IS
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  • CHRISTINE'S GOT A BRAND-NEW
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  • BOOK OUT CALLED "UNEXPECTED."
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  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
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  • - LAURIE: AND I'M EXCITED.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - VICTORIA: WHEN IS THAT GONNA
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  • BE RELEASED?
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  • - CHRISTINE: MAY...
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  • - VICTORIA: IS IT OUT YET?
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  • - CHRISTINE: IT COMES OUT MAY
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  • 8TH, SO, JUST IN A FEW WEEKS,
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  • YOU KNOW?
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  • SIX MORE WEEKS.
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  • AND, WHAT I DO LOVE IS THAT
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  • WE'RE CHATTING ABOUT IT, AS
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  • WELL.
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - CHRISTINE: I THINK EVEN AS
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  • WE WERE CONCEIVING--
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  • WHEN YOU CAME TO ME AND YOU
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  • SAID, "CHRIS, WHAT ABOUT
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  • 'BETTER TOGETHER' WHERE WE CAN
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  • BASIC--"
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  • 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE MOST AMAZING
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  • CONVERSATIONS...
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  • - LAURIE: YES...YES.
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  • - CHRISTINE: ...LIKE WE DO,
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  • AROUND A TABLE.
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  • AND, "HOW 'BOUT WE JUST BRING
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  • IT TO EVERYBODY?"
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - CHRISTINE: AND, LITERALLY,
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  • THAT'S THE WHOLE...PURPOSE OF
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  • THIS.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH, AND THERE'S A
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  • WHOLE BUNCH OF US GETTIN'
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  • TOGETHER.
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  • THIS IS JUST A MINUTE FEW.
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  • - CHRISTINE: BUT IT'S A GOOD
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  • FEW.
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  • - LAURIE: IT IS.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - VICTORIA: IT'S MINUTE BUT
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  • MIGHTY.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - LAURIE: BUT WE'RE GONNA-- WE
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  • WERE GONNA ACTUALLY VENTURE ON
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  • DOING A DAILY PROGRAM...
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  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
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  • - LAURIE: ...RIGHT HERE,
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  • CALLED "BETTER TOGETHER"
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  • IN THE MORNINGS WITH
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  • "HOPE & GRACE."
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  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON!
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  • - LAURIE: AND "BETTER
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  • TOGETHER" AND, UM, JUST JOINING
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  • VOICES WITH YOUNG AND OLD.
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  • AND I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.
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  • WE'VE SHOT SOME STUFF.
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  • AND, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S
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  • GONNA BE GREAT.
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  • - CHRISTINE: I THINK
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  • EVERYONE'S GONNA LOVE IT.
  • 00:05:04.250 --> 00:05:05.140
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:05:05.140 --> 00:05:06.070
  • - CHRISTINE: AND CHICKS
  • 00:05:06.070 --> 00:05:06.250
  • GETTING TOGETHER HAVE GOT A LOT
  • 00:05:06.250 --> 00:05:07.170
  • TO SAY, SO IT NEEDS TO BE A
  • 00:05:07.170 --> 00:05:08.070
  • DAILY SHOW.
  • 00:05:08.070 --> 00:05:08.190
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:05:08.190 --> 00:05:09.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:05:09.030 --> 00:05:09.140
  • - CHRISTINE: AND THAT'S JUST
  • 00:05:09.140 --> 00:05:10.050
  • THE WAY THAT IT...
  • 00:05:10.050 --> 00:05:10.200
  • - LAURIE: BUT I'M SURE IT--
  • 00:05:10.200 --> 00:05:11.100
  • - VICTORIA: BUT, REALLY, IT'S
  • 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:12.040
  • CONVERSATION, LITERALLY.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:05:12.280 --> 00:05:13.120
  • - VICTORIA: BUT THE BEAUTY OF
  • 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:14.030
  • THIS SHOW IS THAT IT'S A
  • 00:05:14.030 --> 00:05:14.210
  • CONVERSATION.
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  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:05:16.060 --> 00:05:16.250
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:05:16.250 --> 00:05:17.120
  • AND IT'S JUST CONVERSATION
  • 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:18.030
  • ABOUT TOPICS, ABOUT GOD, ABOUT
  • 00:05:18.030 --> 00:05:19.270
  • FAMILY, ABOUT MARRIAGE.
  • 00:05:19.270 --> 00:05:21.030
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:05:21.030 --> 00:05:21.240
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S JUST THINGS
  • 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.040
  • THAT WE ALL WANNA TALK ABOUT
  • 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:24.030
  • AND DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE
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  • CHANCE.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - VICTORIA: SO, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:05:25.210 --> 00:05:26.130
  • GET YOUR COFFEE...
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH!
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  • - VICTORIA: ...COME SIT AROUND
  • 00:05:29.060 --> 00:05:29.280
  • WITH US GIRLS AND JUST LET'S
  • 00:05:29.280 --> 00:05:30.180
  • TALK AND LET'S LEARN FROM EACH
  • 00:05:30.180 --> 00:05:31.090
  • OTHER.
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  • I THINK THAT'S WHY WE CALL IT
  • 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:32.260
  • "BETTER TOGETHER."
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  • BECAUSE, REALLY, WHEN YOU KEEP
  • 00:05:33.250 --> 00:05:35.050
  • YOUR HEART OPEN, WHEN YOU KNOW
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  • THAT YOU'RE BETTER TOGETHER,
  • 00:05:36.030 --> 00:05:37.260
  • IT'S NOT A COMPETITION, IT'S
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  • NOT--
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  • - CHRISTINE: IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:05:40.060 --> 00:05:41.010
  • - VICTORIA: --"YOU HAVE
  • 00:05:41.010 --> 00:05:41.230
  • SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE."
  • 00:05:41.230 --> 00:05:42.170
  • LISTEN, WE HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WE
  • 00:05:42.170 --> 00:05:43.240
  • NEED.
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - VICTORIA: AND WHEN WE APPLY
  • 00:05:45.230 --> 00:05:46.160
  • IT, WE'RE BETTER TOGETHER.
  • 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.060
  • AND THAT'S WHAT'S THE BEAUTY OF
  • 00:05:48.060 --> 00:05:48.280
  • THIS SHOW IS THAT WE CAN ALL BE
  • 00:05:48.280 --> 00:05:49.220
  • BETTER TOGETHER, HAVE
  • 00:05:49.220 --> 00:05:52.010
  • CONVERSATIONS, AND I BELIEVE
  • 00:05:52.010 --> 00:05:53.000
  • WE'LL ALL LEARN.
  • 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.040
  • - CHRISTINE: SO DO I.
  • 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:55.080
  • AND I LOVE, ESPECIALLY,
  • 00:05:55.080 --> 00:05:56.100
  • LAURIE -- YOU'VE JUST BEEN SO
  • 00:05:56.100 --> 00:05:57.010
  • INTENTIONAL.
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  • THE DIVERSITY OF-- OF AGE, AND
  • 00:05:57.230 --> 00:05:58.270
  • ETHNICITY, AND RACE.
  • 00:05:58.270 --> 00:06:00.280
  • AND SO, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH
  • 00:06:00.280 --> 00:06:03.050
  • HAVING WOMEN FROM DIFFERENT
  • 00:06:03.050 --> 00:06:04.180
  • PARTS OF THE WORLD AND LOOK AT
  • 00:06:04.180 --> 00:06:06.090
  • THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
  • 00:06:06.090 --> 00:06:07.000
  • AND SO, ONE BIBLE, ONE
  • 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:08.050
  • SCRIPTURE...
  • 00:06:08.050 --> 00:06:08.240
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:09.230
  • - CHRISTINE: BUT I'VE LEARNED.
  • 00:06:09.230 --> 00:06:10.290
  • AND, EVEN FROM, LIKE, SOME
  • 00:06:10.290 --> 00:06:12.000
  • YOUNGER WOMEN.
  • 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:12.150
  • WOW, THAT'S A GREAT WAY.
  • 00:06:12.150 --> 00:06:13.290
  • YOU KNOW, THAT'LL HELP ME TO
  • 00:06:13.290 --> 00:06:15.060
  • UNDERSTAND MY OWN DAUGHTERS.
  • 00:06:15.060 --> 00:06:16.160
  • - CHRISTINE: I'VE GOT A
  • 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:17.040
  • 16-YEAR-OLD -- TODAY!
  • 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:17.210
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:06:17.210 --> 00:06:19.140
  • HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CATIE.
  • 00:06:19.140 --> 00:06:20.120
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:21.000
  • A 16-YEAR-OLD.
  • 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:21.210
  • AND I LOVE LEARNING FROM OTHER
  • 00:06:21.210 --> 00:06:22.260
  • YOUNG WOMEN.
  • 00:06:22.260 --> 00:06:24.110
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:06:24.110 --> 00:06:24.250
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:06:24.250 --> 00:06:25.110
  • - VICTORIA: WELL, THINK ABOUT
  • 00:06:25.110 --> 00:06:26.170
  • THIS -- HOW WE LEARN FROM THE
  • 00:06:26.170 --> 00:06:27.080
  • WOMEN OF THE BIBLE.
  • 00:06:27.080 --> 00:06:27.240
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:28.110
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:06:28.110 --> 00:06:28.260
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY, YES.
  • 00:06:28.260 --> 00:06:29.160
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, THEY SET
  • 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:30.080
  • THE EXAMPLE.
  • 00:06:30.080 --> 00:06:30.200
  • AND THEN, EVERY ONE OF US HAVE
  • 00:06:30.200 --> 00:06:31.200
  • EXPERIENCES VERY MUCH LIKE
  • 00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:33.240
  • THAT.
  • 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.040
  • I THINK ABOUT THE WOMAN AT THE
  • 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:35.280
  • WELL.
  • 00:06:35.280 --> 00:06:36.080
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:06:36.080 --> 00:06:37.040
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:37.220
  • - VICTORIA: TODAY, I THINK
  • 00:06:37.220 --> 00:06:39.010
  • ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, SHE...HAD
  • 00:06:39.010 --> 00:06:40.290
  • AN EXPERIENCE IN LIFE.
  • 00:06:40.290 --> 00:06:41.230
  • SHE WORE LABELS.
  • 00:06:41.230 --> 00:06:43.000
  • SHE DIDN'T HAVE IT SO EASY.
  • 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:44.230
  • BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER TO GOD.
  • 00:06:44.230 --> 00:06:46.180
  • JESUS CAME TO DRAW HER CLOSE.
  • 00:06:48.110 --> 00:06:51.110
  • AND I BELIEVE, AS WE'RE BETTER
  • 00:06:51.110 --> 00:06:52.060
  • TOGETHER, AS WE SHARE OUR
  • 00:06:52.060 --> 00:06:52.250
  • EXPERIENCES, I BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:06:52.250 --> 00:06:54.050
  • JESUS IS GONNA...DRAW US CLOSE.
  • 00:06:54.050 --> 00:06:56.030
  • - CHRISTINE: AMEN.
  • 00:06:56.030 --> 00:06:57.120
  • - LAURIE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:58.000
  • - VICTORIA: BECAUSE THAT'S
  • 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:58.200
  • WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
  • 00:06:58.200 --> 00:06:59.080
  • HE DOESN'T WANT ANYTHING
  • 00:06:59.080 --> 00:07:00.040
  • STANDING BETWEEN US AND HIM.
  • 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:07:01.050 --> 00:07:02.260
  • - VICTORIA: AND THAT DAY
  • 00:07:02.260 --> 00:07:03.280
  • SHOWED THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO
  • 00:07:03.280 --> 00:07:05.060
  • LET LABELS, WHAT RELIGION SAID,
  • 00:07:05.060 --> 00:07:07.090
  • WHAT PEOPLE, WHAT HER OWN MIND
  • 00:07:07.090 --> 00:07:09.100
  • WAS TELLING HER...
  • 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:10.160
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:11.140
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:07:11.140 --> 00:07:12.010
  • AND I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:07:12.010 --> 00:07:13.200
  • I LOVE THE FACT THAT HE WAS
  • 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:14.150
  • ABLE TO BREAK HER TO THE POINT,
  • 00:07:15.220 --> 00:07:18.220
  • BREAK HER DOWN IN HER OWN
  • 00:07:18.220 --> 00:07:19.110
  • BELIEFS TO COME CLOSE TO HIM.
  • 00:07:19.110 --> 00:07:20.070
  • - CHRISTINE: I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:07:20.070 --> 00:07:20.260
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:07:20.260 --> 00:07:21.210
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
  • 00:07:21.210 --> 00:07:22.110
  • HE ENGAGED HER.
  • 00:07:22.110 --> 00:07:23.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, AND YOU KNOW--
  • 00:07:23.050 --> 00:07:23.270
  • - VICTORIA: HE ENGAGED IN
  • 00:07:23.270 --> 00:07:24.160
  • CONVERSATION WITH HER.
  • 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:25.030
  • - LAURIE: AND HE NEVER WANTS
  • 00:07:25.030 --> 00:07:25.240
  • US TO FEEL ALONE.
  • 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:26.090
  • - CHRISTINE: NEVER.
  • 00:07:26.090 --> 00:07:26.250
  • - LAURIE: AND I THINK SHE FELT
  • 00:07:26.250 --> 00:07:27.170
  • VERY ALONE.
  • 00:07:27.170 --> 00:07:28.040
  • AND, THAT'S WHAT EVEN THIS
  • 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.120
  • PROGRAM IS GONNA HELP -- THAT
  • 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.020
  • YOU'RE NOT IN THIS ALONE.
  • 00:07:32.020 --> 00:07:33.020
  • WE'RE ALL THERE TOGETHER AND
  • 00:07:33.020 --> 00:07:34.130
  • WE'RE ALL GONNA HELP EACH
  • 00:07:34.130 --> 00:07:35.180
  • OTHER.
  • 00:07:35.180 --> 00:07:36.170
  • BECAUSE WE ALL NEED EACH OTHER,
  • 00:07:36.170 --> 00:07:37.180
  • WE ALL NEED HELP.
  • 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:39.060
  • WE ALL GLEAN FROM EACH OTHER.
  • 00:07:39.060 --> 00:07:42.020
  • YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- YOU MIGHT
  • 00:07:42.020 --> 00:07:43.070
  • NEVER HAVE HEARD -- THE BODY OF
  • 00:07:43.070 --> 00:07:44.090
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:07:44.090 --> 00:07:45.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:07:45.260 --> 00:07:46.080
  • SO, THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF
  • 00:07:46.080 --> 00:07:47.250
  • THE BODY OF CHRIST -- JUST
  • 00:07:47.250 --> 00:07:49.150
  • LIKE WE HAVE FINGERNAILS,
  • 00:07:49.150 --> 00:07:51.010
  • AND TOENAILS, AND FINGERS,
  • 00:07:51.010 --> 00:07:52.200
  • AND TOES, AND LEGS, AND ARMS.
  • 00:07:52.200 --> 00:07:54.040
  • AND WE ALL FIT PERFECTLY,
  • 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:55.160
  • JOINTLY TOGETHER.
  • 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.260
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE
  • 00:07:57.260 --> 00:07:59.260
  • TO NECESSARILY WALK AROUND
  • 00:07:59.260 --> 00:08:01.020
  • MISSING SOMETHING.
  • 00:08:01.020 --> 00:08:01.250
  • - CHRISTINE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:08:01.250 --> 00:08:02.120
  • - LAURIE: AND, UH, SO,
  • 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:03.200
  • TOGETHER-- YEAH.
  • 00:08:03.200 --> 00:08:05.100
  • - CHRISTINE: IT IS.
  • 00:08:05.100 --> 00:08:05.260
  • I LOVE WHAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH
  • 00:08:05.260 --> 00:08:06.290
  • VICTORIA AND LAURIE JUST SAID.
  • 00:08:06.290 --> 00:08:09.000
  • BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS WHEN YOU
  • 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.180
  • JUST REMINDED ME WHEN YOU SAID
  • 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:11.240
  • THE WOMAN AT THE WELL AND SHE
  • 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.110
  • WAS PROBABLY LONELY --
  • 00:08:13.110 --> 00:08:14.100
  • WELL, THAT'S WHY SHE WAS
  • 00:08:14.100 --> 00:08:15.110
  • THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY
  • 00:08:15.110 --> 00:08:16.200
  • SO THAT NOBODY ELSE WOULD BE
  • 00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:18.030
  • THERE TO MARGINALIZE HER,
  • 00:08:18.030 --> 00:08:19.250
  • AND, YOU KNOW, NO ONE
  • 00:08:19.250 --> 00:08:20.280
  • AND YOU MIGHT BE TUNING IN,
  • 00:08:22.290 --> 00:08:24.120
  • SOMETIMES, AND YOU'RE FEELING
  • 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:25.030
  • VERY ALONE RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.
  • 00:08:25.030 --> 00:08:26.220
  • AND THE REASON WE'RE HAVING
  • 00:08:26.220 --> 00:08:27.280
  • THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THE
  • 00:08:27.280 --> 00:08:28.180
  • REASON WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO
  • 00:08:28.180 --> 00:08:29.260
  • YOU RIGHT THERE IN YOUR LOUNGE
  • 00:08:29.260 --> 00:08:31.130
  • ROOM, WITH YOUR COFFEE CUP, IS
  • 00:08:31.130 --> 00:08:32.200
  • THAT I KNOW THAT GOD WANTS TO
  • 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.040
  • SPEAK TO YOU.
  • 00:08:34.040 --> 00:08:34.260
  • AND I'M BELIEVING THAT EVERY
  • 00:08:34.260 --> 00:08:35.230
  • SINGLE DAY GOD'S GONNA HAVE
  • 00:08:35.230 --> 00:08:37.150
  • SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC IN A
  • 00:08:37.150 --> 00:08:39.140
  • VERY RELATIONAL-- YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:08:39.140 --> 00:08:40.050
  • SEE A LOT OF CAMARADERIE AND
  • 00:08:40.050 --> 00:08:40.250
  • AND IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY FOR YOU
  • 00:08:44.100 --> 00:08:45.020
  • TO FEEL LIKE: WOW, I WISH I HAD
  • 00:08:45.020 --> 00:08:45.270
  • THAT.
  • 00:08:45.270 --> 00:08:47.030
  • WE'RE HERE TO TELL YOU: YOU DO
  • 00:08:47.030 --> 00:08:48.000
  • HAVE THAT.
  • 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:48.150
  • AND WE'RE STEPPING RIGHT IN
  • 00:08:48.150 --> 00:08:49.210
  • THERE AND WE'RE BELIEVING THAT
  • 00:08:49.210 --> 00:08:50.220
  • GOD'S GONNA MEET YOU RIGHT
  • 00:08:50.220 --> 00:08:51.180
  • WHERE YOU ARE.
  • 00:08:51.180 --> 00:08:52.260
  • YOU'RE GONNA GET ANSWERS TO A
  • 00:08:52.260 --> 00:08:53.260
  • LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE
  • 00:08:53.260 --> 00:08:54.160
  • YOU'RE EVEN SCARED TO ASK,
  • 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:55.210
  • THINGS THAT PEOPLE MAYBE DON'T
  • 00:08:55.210 --> 00:08:56.240
  • TALK ABOUT.
  • 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:57.140
  • YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT WE-- WE
  • 00:08:57.140 --> 00:08:58.270
  • TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
  • 00:08:58.270 --> 00:09:00.070
  • THERE IS NOTHING OFF-LIMITS.
  • 00:09:00.070 --> 00:09:01.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:01.100 --> 00:09:02.260
  • AND, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE
  • 00:09:02.260 --> 00:09:03.230
  • SOME OF THE GIRLS, YOU'LL GO,
  • 00:09:03.230 --> 00:09:04.140
  • "OH, I REALIZE..."
  • 00:09:04.140 --> 00:09:05.030
  • LIKE, SERIOUSLY.
  • 00:09:05.030 --> 00:09:05.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:05.280 --> 00:09:06.090
  • - VICTORIA: YOU'LL FEEL,
  • 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:07.020
  • REALLY, A LOT BETTER ABOUT
  • 00:09:07.020 --> 00:09:07.210
  • YOURSELF.
  • 00:09:07.210 --> 00:09:08.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:08.130
  • - CHRISTINE: YOU WILL.
  • 00:09:08.130 --> 00:09:09.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:09.030 --> 00:09:10.020
  • AND, UM-- AND SO, I KNOW YOU'RE
  • 00:09:10.020 --> 00:09:11.120
  • GONNA LOVE ALL--
  • 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.060
  • AND, OF COURSE, WE'VE ALL GOT
  • 00:09:12.060 --> 00:09:13.120
  • HERE THE QUEEN MOTHER HERSELF
  • 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.210
  • OF TBN WHO IS FULL OF GRACE AND
  • 00:09:14.210 --> 00:09:16.030
  • LOVE.
  • 00:09:16.030 --> 00:09:17.290
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:09:17.290 --> 00:09:18.280
  • AND SO, I JUST THINK THAT, UM,
  • 00:09:18.280 --> 00:09:20.000
  • IT WAS SO MUCH YOUR HEARTBEAT
  • 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.220
  • TO SAY, "I WANNA BRING ALL MY--
  • 00:09:21.220 --> 00:09:22.220
  • YOU KNOW, ALL THESE GREAT WOMEN
  • 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:23.250
  • FROM AROUND THE WORLD."
  • 00:09:23.250 --> 00:09:24.130
  • AND YOU WANTED TO BRING THEM TO
  • 00:09:24.130 --> 00:09:25.070
  • THE TBN FAMILY...
  • 00:09:25.070 --> 00:09:25.220
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:09:25.220 --> 00:09:26.090
  • - CHRISTINE: ...AND GIVE YOU A
  • 00:09:26.090 --> 00:09:27.170
  • GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE A
  • 00:09:27.170 --> 00:09:29.140
  • COUPLE OF GIRLFRIENDS ROUND.
  • 00:09:29.140 --> 00:09:30.150
  • AND MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T COME TO
  • 00:09:30.150 --> 00:09:32.010
  • CHURCH WITH YOU, BUT THEY'D SIT
  • 00:09:32.010 --> 00:09:32.230
  • DOWN AND WATCH THIS KIND OF
  • 00:09:32.230 --> 00:09:33.220
  • PROGRAM WITH YOU.
  • 00:09:33.220 --> 00:09:34.120
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:34.290
  • - CHRISTINE: SO, I THINK IT
  • 00:09:34.290 --> 00:09:35.250
  • COULD-- IT REALLY HAS GOT A LOT
  • 00:09:35.250 --> 00:09:36.170
  • OF DIFFERENT...PLACES.
  • 00:09:36.170 --> 00:09:37.070
  • - LAURIE: MM-- WE'RE REALLY
  • 00:09:37.070 --> 00:09:37.280
  • EXCITED.
  • 00:09:37.280 --> 00:09:38.100
  • AND, YOU KNOW, AS-- LAST NIGHT
  • 00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:39.280
  • AT THE SERVICE, I WAS JUST
  • 00:09:39.280 --> 00:09:41.160
  • THINKING: YOU KNOW, IF-- IF--
  • 00:09:41.160 --> 00:09:43.190
  • NOTHING, UM...QUALIFIES US TO
  • 00:09:43.190 --> 00:09:45.120
  • BE A PART OF THIS.
  • 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:47.190
  • NOTHING QUALIFIES US TO BE
  • 00:09:47.190 --> 00:09:48.290
  • SITTING HERE WITH MICROPHONES
  • 00:09:48.290 --> 00:09:50.030
  • EXCEPT WHAT WE'VE...I GUESS
  • 00:09:50.030 --> 00:09:52.200
  • WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH
  • 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:53.100
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:09:53.100 --> 00:09:55.110
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:09:55.110 --> 00:09:56.240
  • - LAURIE: AND, UM, WE'RE HERE
  • 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:57.170
  • TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
  • 00:09:57.170 --> 00:09:58.050
  • WE'RE ALL PILGRIMS.
  • 00:09:58.050 --> 00:09:59.010
  • WE'RE ALL WALKIN' THE SAME WALK
  • 00:09:59.010 --> 00:10:00.090
  • OF FAITH THAT YOU ARE AT HOME.
  • 00:10:00.090 --> 00:10:01.220
  • AND I THINK JUST TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:10:01.220 --> 00:10:03.010
  • PROBLEMS, TALKING ABOUT THINGS
  • 00:10:03.010 --> 00:10:04.080
  • THAT ARE IN OUR LIFE, WE'RE ALL
  • 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.030
  • DEALING WITH THINGS AND WE'RE
  • 00:10:06.030 --> 00:10:08.010
  • ALL-- WE ALL GLEAN FROM EACH
  • 00:10:08.010 --> 00:10:09.200
  • OTHER.
  • 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.130
  • AND JUST THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
  • 00:10:11.130 --> 00:10:13.000
  • AND, I THINK ONE OF MY, UH,
  • 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:14.190
  • MOST DEAR FRIENDS THAT HAS GONE
  • 00:10:14.290 --> 00:10:17.290
  • THROUGH PROBABLY MORE THAN MOST
  • 00:10:17.290 --> 00:10:19.100
  • IS SITTING RIGHT HERE ON MY
  • 00:10:19.100 --> 00:10:21.140
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:10:21.140 --> 00:10:24.080
  • SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH SO MANY
  • 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:25.080
  • UNEXPECTED THINGS...
  • 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.290
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:10:26.290 --> 00:10:28.130
  • - LAURIE: ...IN HER LIFE.
  • 00:10:28.130 --> 00:10:29.020
  • AND, CHRISTINE, YOU MINISTER
  • 00:10:29.020 --> 00:10:30.200
  • AROUND THE WORLD, YOU-- YOU ARE
  • 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:31.120
  • A CHAMPION FOR WOMEN, A TOTAL
  • 00:10:32.030 --> 00:10:35.030
  • ACTIVIST WITH A21, YOU HAVE
  • 00:10:35.030 --> 00:10:36.040
  • YOU HAVE SO MANY THINGS GOING.
  • 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.040
  • UM, AND-- BUT YOU'VE HAD SO
  • 00:10:41.040 --> 00:10:42.240
  • MANY CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN TO
  • 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:43.140
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:10:46.040 --> 00:10:46.200
  • - LAURIE: YEAH. SO, YOU'VE
  • 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:47.110
  • WRITTEN "UNEXPECTED."
  • 00:10:47.110 --> 00:10:47.280
  • TELL US SOME OF THE-- JUST
  • 00:10:47.280 --> 00:10:49.000
  • THE-- A LITTLE PART OF YOUR
  • 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:50.070
  • STORY FIRST SO THAT EVERYBODY
  • 00:10:50.070 --> 00:10:51.060
  • KNOWS.
  • 00:10:51.060 --> 00:10:52.200
  • - CHRISTINE: SURE.
  • 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:53.070
  • - LAURIE: AND THEN, LET'S GET
  • 00:10:53.070 --> 00:10:53.280
  • INTO SOME OF THAT UNEXPECTED
  • 00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:54.180
  • STUFF AND HOW YOU'VE DEALT WITH
  • 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:55.120
  • IT.
  • 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.040
  • - CHRISTINE: FOR SURE.
  • 00:10:57.040 --> 00:10:58.090
  • WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT
  • 00:10:58.090 --> 00:10:59.170
  • OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW,
  • 00:10:59.170 --> 00:11:00.080
  • AT 33 YEARS OLD, I FOUND OUT,
  • 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.120
  • UM, BY ACCIDENT, REALLY, THAT,
  • 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.030
  • UM, I HAD BEEN ADOPTED.
  • 00:11:05.030 --> 00:11:08.000
  • I WAS LEFT IN A HOSPITAL AT
  • 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:09.090
  • BIRTH.
  • 00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:10.030
  • AND SO, IMAGINE GROWING UP 33
  • 00:11:10.030 --> 00:11:11.030
  • YEARS OF YOUR LIFE AND YOU'VE
  • 00:11:11.030 --> 00:11:12.240
  • GOT AN OLDER BROTHER AND A
  • 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:13.180
  • YOUNGER BROTHER AND YOU THOUGHT
  • 00:11:13.180 --> 00:11:14.160
  • YOU WERE ALL BIOLOGICAL
  • 00:11:14.160 --> 00:11:15.290
  • SIBLINGS.
  • 00:11:15.290 --> 00:11:16.260
  • AND AT 33, YOU FIND OUT THAT
  • 00:11:16.260 --> 00:11:18.140
  • THE THREE OF YOU CAME FROM
  • 00:11:18.140 --> 00:11:19.160
  • THREE DIFFERENT SETS OF
  • 00:11:19.160 --> 00:11:20.040
  • PARENTS.
  • 00:11:20.040 --> 00:11:20.170
  • AND, UM, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE,
  • 00:11:20.170 --> 00:11:22.030
  • IT WAS, AH, SHOCKING NEWS, AND,
  • 00:11:22.030 --> 00:11:23.130
  • YOU KNOW-- TO FIND OUT THAT
  • 00:11:23.130 --> 00:11:25.020
  • YOU'RE NOT WHO YOU THOUGHT YOU
  • 00:11:25.020 --> 00:11:26.160
  • WERE.
  • 00:11:26.160 --> 00:11:27.170
  • AND SO, THAT WAS CERTAINLY A
  • 00:11:27.170 --> 00:11:28.070
  • SHOCK.
  • 00:11:28.070 --> 00:11:30.020
  • I THINK TO ADD TO THAT, YOU
  • 00:11:30.020 --> 00:11:31.100
  • KNOW, FOR 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE,
  • 00:11:31.100 --> 00:11:32.200
  • FROM THE TIME I WAS VERY YOUNG
  • 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:33.250
  • -- BEFORE I WENT TO SCHOOL IS
  • 00:11:33.250 --> 00:11:34.260
  • MY FIRST CONSCIOUS MEMORY --
  • 00:11:34.260 --> 00:11:36.120
  • RIGHT THROUGH INTO MY TEENAGE
  • 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:37.280
  • YEARS, I WAS, UM, SEXUALLY
  • 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:39.160
  • ABUSED FOR 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE,
  • 00:11:39.160 --> 00:11:41.120
  • WHICH-- WHICH DAMAGES YOU IN
  • 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.290
  • EVERY, UH, EVERY RESPECT.
  • 00:11:42.290 --> 00:11:45.240
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:46.270
  • - CHRISTINE: YOU KNOW, WE HEAR
  • 00:11:46.270 --> 00:11:47.190
  • SO MUCH IN THE MEDIA NOW.
  • 00:11:47.190 --> 00:11:48.120
  • AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT ABUSE
  • 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:49.140
  • IS BEING BROUGHT TO THE FORE
  • 00:11:49.140 --> 00:11:50.180
  • WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING: IT'S
  • 00:11:50.180 --> 00:11:51.220
  • NOT OKAY.
  • 00:11:51.220 --> 00:11:52.030
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:11:52.030 --> 00:11:52.190
  • - CHRISTINE: BECAUSE IT'S
  • 00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:53.080
  • NEVER BEEN OKAY.
  • 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:53.220
  • AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR --
  • 00:11:53.220 --> 00:11:54.190
  • IT'S NEVER BEEN OKAY.
  • 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:56.010
  • GOD HAS NEVER THOUGHT IT'S
  • 00:11:56.010 --> 00:11:56.290
  • OKAY.
  • 00:11:56.290 --> 00:11:57.290
  • AND, I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT IT'S
  • 00:11:57.290 --> 00:11:59.160
  • BEEN BROUGHT TO THE FORE, THAT
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:02.080
  • THE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
  • 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:03.160
  • BUT "UNEXPECTED" CAME OUT OF
  • 00:12:03.160 --> 00:12:06.060
  • THAT HERE IS ME, THAT I WAS
  • 00:12:06.060 --> 00:12:08.010
  • LEFT IN A HOSPITAL -- UNNAMED
  • 00:12:08.010 --> 00:12:09.050
  • AND UNWANTED -- I WAS ABUSED
  • 00:12:09.050 --> 00:12:10.020
  • FOR, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS OF MY
  • 00:12:10.020 --> 00:12:11.090
  • LIFE.
  • 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:12.270
  • I WAS BORN IN, UH, THE POOREST
  • 00:12:12.270 --> 00:12:14.270
  • ZIP CODE IN MY STATE -- THE
  • 00:12:14.270 --> 00:12:17.040
  • THIRD-POOREST ZIP CODE IN ALL
  • 00:12:17.040 --> 00:12:18.250
  • OF AUSTRALIA.
  • 00:12:18.250 --> 00:12:19.100
  • SO, I GREW UP IN
  • 00:12:19.100 --> 00:12:20.220
  • GOVERNMENT-ASSISTED HOUSING.
  • 00:12:20.220 --> 00:12:21.130
  • AND, I TELL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE,
  • 00:12:21.130 --> 00:12:22.190
  • YOU KNOW, I FIT EVERY
  • 00:12:22.190 --> 00:12:24.140
  • GOVERNMENT-FUNDING CATEGORY
  • 00:12:24.140 --> 00:12:26.110
  • IN AUSTRALIA.
  • 00:12:26.110 --> 00:12:27.050
  • I WAS A MARGINALIZED,
  • 00:12:27.050 --> 00:12:28.150
  • OPPRESSED, ETHNIC, UH,
  • 00:12:28.150 --> 00:12:29.020
  • MINORITY, ABUSED, ADOPTED
  • 00:12:30.260 --> 00:12:33.260
  • WOMAN.
  • 00:12:33.260 --> 00:12:35.120
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:35.230
  • - LAURIE: SEE?
  • 00:12:35.230 --> 00:12:36.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:12:36.170 --> 00:12:36.280
  • - CHRISTINE: "I COULD MAKE A
  • 00:12:36.280 --> 00:12:37.190
  • FORTUNE OUT OF GOVERNMENT
  • 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:38.150
  • FUNDING," BECAUSE THEY FUND
  • 00:12:38.150 --> 00:12:39.200
  • PEOPLE LIKE ME.
  • 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:40.120
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:41.010
  • - CHRISTINE: AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:41.010 --> 00:12:42.000
  • THEY GIVE ME A LABEL AND THEY
  • 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.000
  • SAY: VICTIM, COME BACK NEXT
  • 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:43.240
  • WEEK AND RECEIVE PAYMENT AND WE
  • 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.110
  • WILL LABEL YOU AGAIN "VICTIM,
  • 00:12:45.110 --> 00:12:47.040
  • VICTIM, VICTIM."
  • 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:49.290
  • AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE
  • 00:12:49.290 --> 00:12:50.190
  • BIT OF THAT IN THE ATMOSPHERE
  • 00:12:50.190 --> 00:12:51.100
  • IN THE WORLD TODAY THAT,
  • 00:12:51.100 --> 00:12:51.280
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:51.280 --> 00:12:53.000
  • AND, I UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.060
  • I'M NOT AT ALL MINIMIZING
  • 00:12:55.060 --> 00:12:56.060
  • ANYONE'S PAIN.
  • 00:12:56.060 --> 00:12:57.100
  • I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO FEEL
  • 00:12:57.100 --> 00:12:58.010
  • PAIN.
  • 00:12:58.010 --> 00:12:58.220
  • I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE
  • 00:12:58.220 --> 00:12:59.130
  • NOT HAD A GREAT START IN LIFE.
  • 00:12:59.130 --> 00:13:00.160
  • BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU
  • 00:13:00.160 --> 00:13:02.210
  • CAN START BAD AND YOU CAN
  • 00:13:02.210 --> 00:13:04.080
  • FINISH GOOD IN AND THROUGH A
  • 00:13:05.030 --> 00:13:08.030
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST,
  • 00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:09.200
  • THAT JESUS CAN TAKE ALL OF THE
  • 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:10.170
  • BAD THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED
  • 00:13:10.170 --> 00:13:11.080
  • TO YOU AND TURN THEM AND WORK
  • 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.240
  • THEM TOGETHER FOR YOUR GOOD AND
  • 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.190
  • FOR HIS GLORY.
  • 00:13:14.190 --> 00:13:15.290
  • AND THAT'S JUST NOT A NICE,
  • 00:13:15.290 --> 00:13:17.080
  • CUTE BIBLE VERSE.
  • 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.010
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:13:19.010 --> 00:13:20.030
  • - CHRISTINE: I'M LIVING PROOF
  • 00:13:20.030 --> 00:13:20.250
  • OF THAT.
  • 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:21.050
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:13:21.050 --> 00:13:21.190
  • - CHRISTINE: I WAS LEFT IN A
  • 00:13:21.190 --> 00:13:23.190
  • HOSPITAL, I WAS ABUSED, AND,
  • 00:13:23.190 --> 00:13:24.270
  • TODAY, BY THE GRACE OF GOD,
  • 00:13:24.270 --> 00:13:25.170
  • NICK AND I ARE RESCUING SLAVES
  • 00:13:25.170 --> 00:13:26.110
  • AROUND THE WORLD, LEADING ONE
  • 00:13:26.110 --> 00:13:27.090
  • OF LARGEST ANTI-TRAFFICKING
  • 00:13:27.090 --> 00:13:28.060
  • ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD
  • 00:13:28.060 --> 00:13:28.260
  • TODAY.
  • 00:13:28.260 --> 00:13:30.180
  • JUST TWO MONTHS AGO,
  • 00:13:30.180 --> 00:13:32.000
  • YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED THE
  • 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.100
  • MOTHER TERESA--
  • 00:13:33.100 --> 00:13:34.090
  • - LAURIE: YEAH!
  • 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:34.240
  • - CHRISTINE: --UM, SOCIAL
  • 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:36.000
  • JUSTICE MEMORIAL AWARD.
  • 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:36.290
  • - LAURIE: UNEXPECTED.
  • 00:13:36.290 --> 00:13:37.160
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT WAS
  • 00:13:37.160 --> 00:13:38.030
  • UNEXPECTED.
  • 00:13:38.030 --> 00:13:38.230
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:13:38.230 --> 00:13:39.070
  • UM, SO JUST A RECOGNITION OF,
  • 00:13:39.070 --> 00:13:39.280
  • REALLY, THE TEAM'S WORK WAY
  • 00:13:39.280 --> 00:13:40.180
  • MORE THAN MINE -- THE WORK OF
  • 00:13:40.180 --> 00:13:42.110
  • OUR TEAM IN 14 OFFICES AROUND
  • 00:13:42.110 --> 00:13:43.150
  • THE WORLD.
  • 00:13:43.150 --> 00:13:43.260
  • BUT, IMAGINE IF I HAD STILL
  • 00:13:43.260 --> 00:13:45.200
  • KEPT A VICTIM MENTALITY.
  • 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.200
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:48.040
  • - CHRISTINE: IMAGINE IF I WAS
  • 00:13:48.040 --> 00:13:48.250
  • STILL--
  • 00:13:48.250 --> 00:13:50.130
  • BECAUSE YOUNG WOMEN LIKE ME,
  • 00:13:50.130 --> 00:13:51.120
  • WITH MY KIND OF BACKGROUND,
  • 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:52.170
  • DON'T OFTEN END UP DOING WHAT
  • 00:13:52.170 --> 00:13:53.220
  • I'M DOING.
  • 00:13:53.220 --> 00:13:54.060
  • THEY END UP EITHER--
  • 00:13:54.060 --> 00:13:55.090
  • MANY DRUG-DEPENDENT OR ALCOHOL-
  • 00:13:55.090 --> 00:13:56.270
  • DEPENDENT, TWO OF THREE
  • 00:13:56.270 --> 00:13:58.070
  • DIFFERENT KIDS, MAYBE, TO TWO
  • 00:13:58.070 --> 00:13:59.030
  • OR THREE DIFFERENT FATHERS, OR
  • 00:13:59.030 --> 00:14:00.230
  • CONFUSED ABOUT THEIR IDENTITY
  • 00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:01.200
  • AND THEY'RE BROKEN.
  • 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:02.070
  • AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEND THEIR
  • 00:14:02.160 --> 00:14:05.160
  • LIFE GOING: "WELL, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:14:05.160 --> 00:14:06.180
  • IT'S NOT MY FAULT.
  • 00:14:06.180 --> 00:14:07.250
  • LOOK WHAT HE DID TO ME."
  • 00:14:07.250 --> 00:14:09.030
  • OR: "LOOK WHAT SHE DID TO ME."
  • 00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:10.170
  • OR: "LOOK WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT
  • 00:14:10.170 --> 00:14:11.240
  • ME."
  • 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:12.090
  • AND IT'S ALL VALID.
  • 00:14:12.090 --> 00:14:13.130
  • I'M NOT MINIMIZING THAT.
  • 00:14:13.130 --> 00:14:14.100
  • BUT, THERE COMES A PLACE WHERE
  • 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:15.260
  • YOU NEED TO MAKE WHAT JESUS
  • 00:14:15.260 --> 00:14:17.220
  • CHRIST DID FOR YOU BIGGER THAN
  • 00:14:17.220 --> 00:14:19.110
  • WHAT THEY DID TO YOU.
  • 00:14:19.110 --> 00:14:21.030
  • AND I HAD TO COME TO A PLACE...
  • 00:14:21.030 --> 00:14:22.200
  • AND I DISCOVERED-- THAT'S WHERE
  • 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.280
  • I DISCOVERED THE UNEXPECTED
  • 00:14:24.280 --> 00:14:26.100
  • GRACE OF GOD.
  • 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.090
  • BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO
  • 00:14:28.090 --> 00:14:28.280
  • RECEIVE GOD'S GRACE, TO GO --
  • 00:14:28.280 --> 00:14:30.100
  • AND I HEARD THAT FOR A LONG
  • 00:14:30.100 --> 00:14:31.220
  • TIME -- "CHRISTINE, GOD CAN DO
  • 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:33.100
  • SOMETHING WITH SOMEONE LIKE
  • 00:14:33.100 --> 00:14:34.230
  • YOU."
  • 00:14:34.230 --> 00:14:35.050
  • BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS -- AND
  • 00:14:35.050 --> 00:14:36.120
  • THERE'S SOMEONE WATCHING THIS
  • 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:37.110
  • TODAY AND I'M SURE THAT YOU
  • 00:14:37.110 --> 00:14:39.150
  • FEEL LIKE I DID FOR A LOT OF
  • 00:14:39.150 --> 00:14:40.070
  • YEARS -- I WOULD BE SITTING IN
  • 00:14:40.070 --> 00:14:41.180
  • CHURCH OR MAYBE WATCHING A
  • 00:14:41.180 --> 00:14:42.080
  • BROADCAST LIKE THIS AND
  • 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.070
  • THINKING: YEAH, IT'S OKAY FOR
  • 00:14:43.070 --> 00:14:44.270
  • HER, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
  • 00:14:44.270 --> 00:14:46.060
  • HAPPENED TO ME.
  • 00:14:46.060 --> 00:14:46.220
  • AND I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT
  • 00:14:46.220 --> 00:14:48.060
  • GOD COULD USE ME, BUT WHAT I'VE
  • 00:14:48.060 --> 00:14:50.040
  • DONE IS UNFORGIVABLE.
  • 00:14:50.040 --> 00:14:52.040
  • WHAT'S HAPPENED TO ME IS JUST
  • 00:14:52.040 --> 00:14:53.060
  • SO BAD.
  • 00:14:53.060 --> 00:14:55.000
  • AND I USED TO BE THAT PERSON
  • 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:55.200
  • SITTING IN THE BACK OF CHURCH,
  • 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.180
  • GOING: YEAH, BUT IF MY PASTOR
  • 00:14:56.180 --> 00:14:58.270
  • KNEW WHAT THEY DID TO ME...
  • 00:14:58.270 --> 00:14:59.240
  • BUT THEN, THERE CAME A DAY
  • 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.280
  • WHERE I BELIEVED THAT, WOW,
  • 00:15:01.280 --> 00:15:03.100
  • MAYBE THE GRACE OF GOD IS
  • 00:15:03.100 --> 00:15:05.040
  • ENOUGH FOR ME, AS WELL.
  • 00:15:05.040 --> 00:15:07.010
  • BUT THEN, TO GO FROM THAT TO
  • 00:15:07.010 --> 00:15:09.170
  • RECEIVING GOD'S GRACE AND THEN
  • 00:15:09.170 --> 00:15:11.120
  • CHOOSING TO WALK IN THE NEW
  • 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.290
  • CREATION THAT YOU ARE --
  • 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:15.200
  • THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
  • 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:16.290
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:15:16.290 --> 00:15:17.140
  • - CHRISTINE: AND THAT'S WHAT I
  • 00:15:17.140 --> 00:15:18.190
  • HAVE DISCOVERED.
  • 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:19.130
  • SOME OF US -- MAYBE WE EVEN
  • 00:15:19.130 --> 00:15:20.160
  • RECEIVE THE GRACE OF GOD AND WE
  • 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:21.130
  • RECEIVE SALVATION, BUT WE DON'T
  • 00:15:21.130 --> 00:15:23.190
  • WALK IN THE LIFE THAT IS
  • 00:15:23.190 --> 00:15:25.030
  • OURS BEYOND OUR PAST.
  • 00:15:26.170 --> 00:15:29.170
  • AND THAT'S OUR NEW CREATION
  • 00:15:29.170 --> 00:15:30.070
  • LIFE, THAT I AM NO LONGER
  • 00:15:30.070 --> 00:15:30.260
  • DEFINED BY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME,
  • 00:15:32.010 --> 00:15:35.010
  • BUT I CAN HAVE AN UNEXPECTED
  • 00:15:35.010 --> 00:15:35.210
  • ADVENTURE.
  • 00:15:35.210 --> 00:15:36.070
  • AND I REALLY WROTE THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:15:36.070 --> 00:15:36.290
  • I THOUGHT: I WANT PEOPLE TO
  • 00:15:36.290 --> 00:15:38.080
  • KNOW THAT THERE ARE UNEXPECTED
  • 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.010
  • BLESSINGS, THERE IS UNEXPECTED
  • 00:15:40.010 --> 00:15:41.150
  • GRACE, THERE IS AN UNEXPECTED
  • 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.240
  • AND THAT-- I BEGAN TO LISTEN TO
  • 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:49.070
  • THIS VICTIM MENTALITY AND I
  • 00:15:49.070 --> 00:15:50.180
  • THOUGHT: WHOA...YOU CAN STILL
  • 00:15:50.180 --> 00:15:51.150
  • EVEN BE A CHRISTIAN AND THINK
  • 00:15:51.150 --> 00:15:53.250
  • OF YOURSELF AS A VICTIM.
  • 00:15:53.250 --> 00:15:54.130
  • AND I THOUGHT:
  • 00:15:54.130 --> 00:15:56.160
  • YOU'RE NEVER GONNA LIVE.
  • 00:15:56.160 --> 00:15:58.010
  • YOU'RE GONNA GO TO HEAVEN, BUT
  • 00:15:58.010 --> 00:15:59.110
  • YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A REAL
  • 00:15:59.110 --> 00:16:01.000
  • MISERABLE TIME HERE ON EARTH
  • 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:01.200
  • UNTIL YOU GET TO HEAVEN.
  • 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:02.230
  • AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
  • 00:16:02.230 --> 00:16:03.100
  • YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE-- UM, YOU
  • 00:16:03.100 --> 00:16:04.100
  • CAN KNOW UNEXPECTED FAVOR, YOU
  • 00:16:04.100 --> 00:16:06.090
  • CAN KNOW UNEXPECTED BLESSING,
  • 00:16:06.090 --> 00:16:07.110
  • AND I LOOK AT WHAT GOD'S DONE.
  • 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:10.210
  • TODAY, WE'RE SITTING HERE
  • 00:16:10.210 --> 00:16:13.000
  • CELEBRATING MY DAUGHTER'S 16TH
  • 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:13.210
  • BIRTHDAY IN ISRAEL.
  • 00:16:13.210 --> 00:16:14.220
  • WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT A WOMAN
  • 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:16.170
  • WITH MY BACKGROUND WOULD BE
  • 00:16:16.170 --> 00:16:18.140
  • MARRIED -- CELEBRATING NEXT
  • 00:16:18.140 --> 00:16:20.090
  • WEEK 22 YEARS OF MARRIAGE WITH
  • 00:16:20.090 --> 00:16:21.090
  • NICK -- MY DAUGHTERS
  • 00:16:21.090 --> 00:16:22.110
  • FLOURISHING IN LIFE -- 16TH
  • 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:23.280
  • BIRTHDAY, MY YOUNGER ONE IS
  • 00:16:23.280 --> 00:16:25.140
  • 12 -- SITTING HERE WITH TWO
  • 00:16:25.140 --> 00:16:27.270
  • WOMEN OF GOD WITH MY BROKEN
  • 00:16:27.270 --> 00:16:29.040
  • BACKGROUND?
  • 00:16:29.040 --> 00:16:29.290
  • I COULDN'T HAVE A PROPER
  • 00:16:29.290 --> 00:16:31.010
  • FRIENDSHIP WITH A WOMAN WHEN I
  • 00:16:31.010 --> 00:16:32.050
  • WAS YOUNGER, EVER IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:16:32.050 --> 00:16:33.120
  • I WAS SO BROKEN.
  • 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:33.280
  • AND, I NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD THE
  • 00:16:33.290 --> 00:16:36.290
  • COURAGE TO SIT HERE AND LOOK
  • 00:16:36.290 --> 00:16:38.110
  • YOU IN THE EYE AND BE ABLE TO
  • 00:16:38.110 --> 00:16:39.220
  • HAVE A CONVERSATION, BUT JESUS
  • 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:40.240
  • HAS SET ME FREE.
  • 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.160
  • AND JESUS HAS GIVEN ME A NEW
  • 00:16:42.160 --> 00:16:43.280
  • BEGINNING.
  • 00:16:43.280 --> 00:16:44.140
  • AND I THINK IN THE BOOK I
  • 00:16:44.140 --> 00:16:46.010
  • WANTED TO GO-- AND I WENT
  • 00:16:46.010 --> 00:16:47.110
  • THROUGH A LOT OF BROKEN
  • 00:16:47.110 --> 00:16:48.200
  • STORIES FROM, YOU KNOW, CANCER
  • 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.170
  • DIAGNOSIS TO FRIENDS OF MINE
  • 00:16:50.170 --> 00:16:53.060
  • THAT HAVE BEEN DIVORCED,
  • 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:53.270
  • THAT HAVE LOST BABIES,
  • 00:16:53.270 --> 00:16:55.130
  • THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE
  • 00:16:55.130 --> 00:16:56.160
  • TO BEAR CHILDREN, THAT HAVE BEEN
  • 00:16:56.160 --> 00:16:57.080
  • SINGLE WAY INTO THEIR THIRTIES
  • 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:58.060
  • WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY
  • 00:16:58.060 --> 00:16:59.020
  • WOULD BE MARRIED.
  • 00:16:59.020 --> 00:16:59.250
  • UM, BROKEN FRIENDSHIPS AND
  • 00:16:59.250 --> 00:17:01.060
  • BETRAYAL.
  • 00:17:01.060 --> 00:17:02.090
  • SO, IT CONNECTS WITH EVERYONE.
  • 00:17:02.090 --> 00:17:04.060
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:17:04.060 --> 00:17:04.240
  • - CHRISTINE: BUT IT DOESN'T
  • 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:05.210
  • STOP THERE.
  • 00:17:05.210 --> 00:17:06.080
  • BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF WHAT'S
  • 00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:07.260
  • HAPPENING ON THE EARTH TODAY IS
  • 00:17:07.260 --> 00:17:09.160
  • WE'RE JUST STOPPING AND WE'RE
  • 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:10.200
  • GETTING CAUGHT UP IN ONE
  • 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.120
  • ANOTHER'S MISERY.
  • 00:17:12.120 --> 00:17:12.270
  • AND WE'RE SITTING IN THE PIT
  • 00:17:12.270 --> 00:17:13.270
  • TOGETHER AND ALL WE'RE TALKING
  • 00:17:13.270 --> 00:17:14.250
  • ABOUT IS THE PIT.
  • 00:17:14.250 --> 00:17:16.170
  • AND I'M LIKE: OH, NO.
  • 00:17:16.170 --> 00:17:18.010
  • THERE'S AN UNEXPECTED BLESSING
  • 00:17:18.010 --> 00:17:19.120
  • THAT CAN GET YOU OUT OF THAT
  • 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:20.060
  • AND PROPEL YOU INTO YOUR
  • 00:17:20.060 --> 00:17:20.240
  • PURPOSE.
  • 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:22.000
  • YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:23.040
  • I THINK THE ENEMY OF OUR
  • 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:24.000
  • SOUL WANTS TO PARALYZE US...
  • 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:25.150
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YES.
  • 00:17:25.150 --> 00:17:27.010
  • - LAURIE: ...WANTS TO TAKE US
  • 00:17:27.010 --> 00:17:28.130
  • TO A TIME IN OUR LIFE THAT--
  • 00:17:28.130 --> 00:17:29.160
  • THAT YOU CAN JUST STOP AND LIVE
  • 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.290
  • IN.
  • 00:17:31.290 --> 00:17:33.090
  • AND IT PARALYZES US.
  • 00:17:33.090 --> 00:17:35.020
  • AND I KNOW THAT GOD WANTS TO
  • 00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:36.040
  • BREAK CHAINS--
  • 00:17:36.040 --> 00:17:37.120
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:38.050
  • - LAURIE: --OFF OF PEOPLE'S
  • 00:17:38.050 --> 00:17:38.250
  • MINDS--
  • 00:17:38.250 --> 00:17:39.080
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, YES.
  • 00:17:39.080 --> 00:17:40.050
  • - LAURIE: --AND THEIR HEARTS
  • 00:17:40.050 --> 00:17:40.260
  • TO MOVE FORWARD, TO MOVE ON
  • 00:17:40.260 --> 00:17:41.290
  • BECAUSE BETTER THINGS ARE AHEAD
  • 00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:44.020
  • -- FOR YOU!
  • 00:17:44.020 --> 00:17:46.130
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:47.130
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:17:47.130 --> 00:17:48.030
  • INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:17:48.030 --> 00:17:48.280
  • WERE SAYING IN YOUR BOOK, YOU
  • 00:17:48.280 --> 00:17:49.190
  • KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF
  • 00:17:49.190 --> 00:17:50.060
  • UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
  • 00:17:50.060 --> 00:17:52.200
  • YOU'RE GOING ALONG AND YOU
  • 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:54.120
  • DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW-- SO-- YOU
  • 00:17:54.120 --> 00:17:55.110
  • GET A DIAGNOSIS...
  • 00:17:55.110 --> 00:17:56.140
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:17:56.140 --> 00:17:57.000
  • - VICTORIA: ...SOMEONE YOU
  • 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:57.290
  • LOSE IN YOUR FAMILY, MAYBE YOU
  • 00:17:57.290 --> 00:17:58.220
  • HAVE A FINANCIAL CRISIS.
  • 00:17:58.220 --> 00:18:01.020
  • YOU KNOW, THE THING TO REMEMBER
  • 00:18:01.020 --> 00:18:02.060
  • IS IT MAY BE UNEXPECTED FOR
  • 00:18:02.060 --> 00:18:02.260
  • US...
  • 00:18:02.260 --> 00:18:04.100
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:18:04.100 --> 00:18:04.260
  • - VICTORIA: ...BUT IT'S NO
  • 00:18:04.260 --> 00:18:05.160
  • SURPRISE TO GOD.
  • 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:06.000
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:06.290
  • - VICTORIA: AND I THINK THAT'S
  • 00:18:06.290 --> 00:18:07.210
  • WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:18:07.210 --> 00:18:09.170
  • WE HAVE TO REALIZE: THIS IS
  • 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:11.250
  • DEVASTATING, THIS IS DIFFICULT,
  • 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:12.240
  • BUT I'M STILL IN THE...UH, PALM
  • 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.150
  • OF GOD'S HANDS.
  • 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:16.240
  • THIS IS NOT UNEXPECTED TO HIM.
  • 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:19.020
  • HE DIDN'T JUST WAKE UP AND GO,
  • 00:18:19.020 --> 00:18:20.010
  • "OH, WOW, HOW DID THAT HAPPEN
  • 00:18:20.010 --> 00:18:21.030
  • TO THEM?
  • 00:18:21.030 --> 00:18:21.190
  • I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT."
  • 00:18:21.190 --> 00:18:23.240
  • - CHRISTINE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:24.110
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, GOD'S
  • 00:18:24.110 --> 00:18:25.110
  • ALREADY PUT IN US EVERYTHING
  • 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:26.120
  • THAT WE NEED.
  • 00:18:26.120 --> 00:18:27.170
  • AND I THINK, CHRISTINE, WHAT
  • 00:18:27.170 --> 00:18:29.010
  • YOU WERE SAYING WAS THAT YOU
  • 00:18:29.010 --> 00:18:30.090
  • CAME TO THE REALIZATION ONE DAY
  • 00:18:30.090 --> 00:18:31.250
  • THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
  • 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:33.010
  • CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH...
  • 00:18:33.010 --> 00:18:35.060
  • - CHRISTINE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:18:35.060 --> 00:18:35.230
  • - VICTORIA: ...THAT THERE'S
  • 00:18:35.230 --> 00:18:36.180
  • MORE INSIDE OF YOU.
  • 00:18:36.260 --> 00:18:39.260
  • AND, YOU KNOW, THE CHOICE
  • 00:18:39.260 --> 00:18:40.240
  • WAS YOURS.
  • 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:41.100
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:18:41.100 --> 00:18:41.270
  • - VICTORIA: YOU COULD EITHER
  • 00:18:41.270 --> 00:18:42.210
  • LIVE AS A VICTIM OR YOU COULD
  • 00:18:42.210 --> 00:18:43.120
  • RISE UP AND BEGIN TO THINK
  • 00:18:43.120 --> 00:18:44.030
  • DIFFERENTLY AND CHANGE YOUR
  • 00:18:44.030 --> 00:18:45.000
  • PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:45.170
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:18:45.170 --> 00:18:46.060
  • - VICTORIA: AND I THINK EVEN
  • 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:46.270
  • ALL THOSE YEARS SITTING IN
  • 00:18:46.270 --> 00:18:47.160
  • CHURCH, WHETHER YOU WERE BACK
  • 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:50.040
  • THERE IN THE BACK PEW WITH
  • 00:18:50.040 --> 00:18:51.180
  • SHAME, IT WAS ALL PART OF YOUR
  • 00:18:51.180 --> 00:18:52.180
  • PREPARATION.
  • 00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:54.030
  • AND SO, THERE MAY BE PEOPLE OUT
  • 00:18:54.030 --> 00:18:55.110
  • THERE TODAY AND SAY, "THAT'S ME
  • 00:18:55.110 --> 00:18:56.260
  • SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE PEW,
  • 00:18:56.260 --> 00:18:58.010
  • SAYING, 'I'M ASHAMED.
  • 00:18:58.010 --> 00:18:59.030
  • I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FIND
  • 00:18:59.030 --> 00:19:00.240
  • OUT.'"
  • 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:01.280
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:03.050
  • YOU'RE RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:19:03.050 --> 00:19:04.080
  • SUPPOSED TO BE.
  • 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:04.280
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:19:04.280 --> 00:19:05.140
  • - VICTORIA: EVERYTHING THAT
  • 00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:06.040
  • HAS HAPPENED TO YOU IS NOT
  • 00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:06.250
  • GONNA BE WASTED.
  • 00:19:06.250 --> 00:19:07.110
  • GOD IS PREPARING YOU TO RISE
  • 00:19:07.110 --> 00:19:08.280
  • UP.
  • 00:19:08.280 --> 00:19:11.280
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:19:11.280 --> 00:19:12.240
  • - VICTORIA: AND SO, WHEN YOU
  • 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.220
  • SEE A LIFE LIKE CHRISTINE'S,
  • 00:19:13.220 --> 00:19:14.120
  • YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE: "I HAD TO
  • 00:19:14.120 --> 00:19:15.140
  • DIG DEEP."
  • 00:19:15.140 --> 00:19:18.090
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:19:18.090 --> 00:19:19.020
  • - VICTORIA: "I HAD TO LEARN
  • 00:19:19.020 --> 00:19:19.220
  • SOME RESOLVE."
  • 00:19:19.220 --> 00:19:20.050
  • - CHRISTINE: VERY MUCH.
  • 00:19:20.050 --> 00:19:20.230
  • - VICTORIA: "YOU KNOW, I HAD
  • 00:19:20.230 --> 00:19:21.140
  • TO DO SOME THINGS."
  • 00:19:21.140 --> 00:19:22.230
  • AND I THINK IT'S REALLY
  • 00:19:22.230 --> 00:19:23.180
  • IMPORTANT THAT WE JUST SHARE
  • 00:19:23.180 --> 00:19:24.270
  • TODAY MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS.
  • 00:19:24.270 --> 00:19:25.210
  • WE BROUGHT UP THE WOMAN
  • 00:19:25.210 --> 00:19:27.180
  • AT THE WELL THAT DAY.
  • 00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:28.050
  • [CHRISTINE INHALES DEEPLY]
  • 00:19:28.050 --> 00:19:29.000
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:29.160
  • - VICTORIA: SHE CAME ASHAMED.
  • 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:30.070
  • YOU WERE SAYING SHE CAME AT--
  • 00:19:30.070 --> 00:19:30.280
  • AT NOON, WHEN ALL THE OTHER
  • 00:19:30.280 --> 00:19:31.180
  • WOMEN HAD GONE, SO THAT SHE
  • 00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:32.240
  • DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL HER STORY,
  • 00:19:32.290 --> 00:19:35.290
  • THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE
  • 00:19:35.290 --> 00:19:36.180
  • TALKED ABOUT--
  • 00:19:36.180 --> 00:19:37.010
  • - LAURIE: WELL, BUT EVERYONE
  • 00:19:37.010 --> 00:19:37.260
  • PROBABLY ALREADY KNEW WHO SHE
  • 00:19:37.260 --> 00:19:39.170
  • WAS.
  • 00:19:39.170 --> 00:19:39.290
  • - VICTORIA: YEAH.
  • 00:19:39.290 --> 00:19:40.140
  • AND SO, SHE DIDN'T PUT HERSELF
  • 00:19:40.140 --> 00:19:41.080
  • IN THAT PLACE TO BE CRITICIZED.
  • 00:19:41.080 --> 00:19:42.070
  • BUT THE BEAUTY WAS, THAT DAY,
  • 00:19:42.070 --> 00:19:43.210
  • SHE CAME TO THE REALIZATION
  • 00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:45.160
  • WHEN SHE MET CHRIST THAT SHE
  • 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.080
  • DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK THE
  • 00:19:47.080 --> 00:19:49.190
  • SAME.
  • 00:19:49.190 --> 00:19:50.050
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:19:50.050 --> 00:19:50.220
  • - VICTORIA: AND IT WAS THE DAY
  • 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:51.280
  • THAT YOU-- TELL US ABOUT THE
  • 00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:52.220
  • DAY THAT YOU--
  • 00:19:52.220 --> 00:19:55.020
  • - CHRISTINE: I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:19:55.020 --> 00:19:55.210
  • - VICTORIA: --CAME TO THAT
  • 00:19:55.210 --> 00:19:56.190
  • REALIZATION -- YOU HAD BEEN
  • 00:19:56.190 --> 00:19:57.090
  • SITTING IN CHURCH -- BUT:
  • 00:19:57.090 --> 00:19:57.280
  • I DON'T HAVE GO BACK THE SAME
  • 00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:58.190
  • WAY.
  • 00:19:58.190 --> 00:19:58.280
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT-- SEE--
  • 00:19:58.280 --> 00:19:59.170
  • AND I THINK THAT-- AND I LOVE
  • 00:19:59.170 --> 00:20:00.170
  • THE WAY IT GOES.
  • 00:20:00.170 --> 00:20:01.090
  • SHE WENT, ACTUALLY, BACK TO THE
  • 00:20:01.090 --> 00:20:02.160
  • TOWN AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO
  • 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:03.280
  • HIDE -- YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ALL
  • 00:20:03.280 --> 00:20:05.160
  • TALKING ABOUT HER, ANYWAY,
  • 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:06.050
  • BUT, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:20:06.050 --> 00:20:06.190
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT...RIGHT,
  • 00:20:06.190 --> 00:20:07.200
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:08.020
  • - CHRISTINE: --SHE GOES, "OH,
  • 00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:08.270
  • LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THIS MAN
  • 00:20:08.270 --> 00:20:09.190
  • I MET WHO TOLD ME EVERYTHING
  • 00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:10.220
  • ABOUT MYSELF."
  • 00:20:10.220 --> 00:20:12.250
  • - VICTORIA: "AND STILL LOVES
  • 00:20:12.250 --> 00:20:13.160
  • ME!"
  • 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:14.010
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT!
  • 00:20:14.010 --> 00:20:14.190
  • AND THAT'S--
  • 00:20:14.190 --> 00:20:15.060
  • SHE WAS SET FREE IN THAT
  • 00:20:15.060 --> 00:20:15.240
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:16.040
  • [SNAPS FINGERS]
  • 00:20:16.040 --> 00:20:16.180
  • IT'S LIKE: HANG ON A MINUTE.
  • 00:20:16.180 --> 00:20:17.080
  • AND I THINK IT'S THAT DAY THAT
  • 00:20:17.080 --> 00:20:17.290
  • I REALIZED JESUS ACTUALLY KNOWS
  • 00:20:17.290 --> 00:20:18.210
  • ALL AND NEVER CONDEMNS YOU...
  • 00:20:18.270 --> 00:20:21.270
  • - LAURIE: MNH-MNH.
  • 00:20:21.270 --> 00:20:23.090
  • - CHRISTINE: ...ACTUALLY
  • 00:20:23.090 --> 00:20:24.010
  • UNDERSTANDS WHY THE STRUGGLE,
  • 00:20:24.010 --> 00:20:26.080
  • WHY THE PAIN.
  • 00:20:26.080 --> 00:20:28.090
  • AND, MANY TIMES, WHY, ACTUALLY,
  • 00:20:28.090 --> 00:20:29.090
  • WE'VE DEVELOPED-- I HAD
  • 00:20:29.090 --> 00:20:30.190
  • DEVELOPED SO MANY PATTERNS OF
  • 00:20:30.190 --> 00:20:32.080
  • DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR.
  • 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:33.160
  • I WAS IN SUCH A DESTRUCTIVE
  • 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:34.060
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:20:34.060 --> 00:20:35.190
  • BUT THE GRACE OF GOD MET ME.
  • 00:20:35.190 --> 00:20:37.150
  • AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE WOMAN
  • 00:20:37.150 --> 00:20:38.180
  • AT THE WELL.
  • 00:20:38.180 --> 00:20:39.210
  • JESUS SAYS: HEY, LET ME TELL
  • 00:20:39.210 --> 00:20:41.130
  • YOU WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS.
  • 00:20:41.130 --> 00:20:42.180
  • IT'S-- I'M NOT--
  • 00:20:42.180 --> 00:20:43.160
  • HE'S NOT EVEN--- WASN'T, LIKE,
  • 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:44.250
  • JUDGING ME FOR WHAT I WAS DOING
  • 00:20:44.250 --> 00:20:46.290
  • THAT WAS WRONG.
  • 00:20:46.290 --> 00:20:47.270
  • IT WAS LIKE: LET ME TELL YOU
  • 00:20:47.270 --> 00:20:49.010
  • THE ROOT OF IT.
  • 00:20:49.010 --> 00:20:50.000
  • AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT
  • 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:51.090
  • I'M LIVING WATER.
  • 00:20:51.090 --> 00:20:52.120
  • I CAN ACTUALLY SOLVE THAT PAIN.
  • 00:20:52.120 --> 00:20:53.110
  • YOU DON'T NEED TO RUN FROM
  • 00:20:53.110 --> 00:20:55.040
  • RELATIONSHIP TO RELATIONSHIP,
  • 00:20:55.040 --> 00:20:55.270
  • CHRISTINE.
  • 00:20:55.270 --> 00:20:56.080
  • NO ONE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL
  • 00:20:56.080 --> 00:20:57.150
  • THAT HOLE IN YOUR LIFE, HONEY.
  • 00:20:57.150 --> 00:20:59.030
  • AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WITH A
  • 00:20:59.030 --> 00:20:59.230
  • GRACE, NOT A CONDEMNATION--
  • 00:20:59.230 --> 00:21:01.200
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:02.050
  • - CHRISTINE: --YOU KNOW, WHERE
  • 00:21:02.050 --> 00:21:03.090
  • OTHERS MIGHT GO, "WELL...LET ME
  • 00:21:03.090 --> 00:21:04.130
  • TELL YOU ABOUT CHRIS CAINE."
  • 00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:05.170
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:21:05.170 --> 00:21:06.130
  • - CHRISTINE: JESUS WAS LIKE:
  • 00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:07.040
  • OH, NO, NO, NO.
  • 00:21:07.040 --> 00:21:07.180
  • LET ME TELL YOU WHY YOU'RE
  • 00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:08.090
  • HURTING.
  • 00:21:08.090 --> 00:21:08.200
  • LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IT IS THAT
  • 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:09.120
  • YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
  • 00:21:09.120 --> 00:21:09.280
  • AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES WITH
  • 00:21:09.280 --> 00:21:10.190
  • YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE.
  • 00:21:10.190 --> 00:21:11.150
  • HE COMES AND STEPS INTO YOUR
  • 00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:12.260
  • PAIN, NOT WITH JUDGMENT OR
  • 00:21:12.260 --> 00:21:13.210
  • CONDEMNATION.
  • 00:21:13.210 --> 00:21:14.070
  • HE SAID THAT TO THE WOMAN
  • 00:21:14.070 --> 00:21:16.080
  • CAUGHT IN THE ACT OF ADULTERY:
  • 00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:17.120
  • LOOK, THEY DON'T CONDEMN YOU.
  • 00:21:17.120 --> 00:21:19.000
  • NEITHER DO I.
  • 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:19.140
  • I'VE GOT BETTER FOR YOU.
  • 00:21:19.140 --> 00:21:20.220
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIN ANYMORE.
  • 00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:22.010
  • THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER AND
  • 00:21:22.010 --> 00:21:23.030
  • THAT'S ME.
  • 00:21:23.030 --> 00:21:23.290
  • AND HE SAID TO THE WOMAN AT THE
  • 00:21:23.290 --> 00:21:25.090
  • WELL: OUT OF ME-- YOU KNOW
  • 00:21:25.090 --> 00:21:26.110
  • WHAT?
  • 00:21:26.110 --> 00:21:27.000
  • YOU'RE GONNA DRINK OF THIS
  • 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:27.190
  • LIVING WATER.
  • 00:21:27.190 --> 00:21:28.040
  • YOU'RE NEVER GONNA RUN DRY.
  • 00:21:28.040 --> 00:21:28.240
  • AND I CAN SAY TO YOU, 30 YEARS
  • 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.250
  • AGO, WHEN I CAME TO THAT
  • 00:21:30.250 --> 00:21:33.020
  • REALIZATION, WHEN IT WAS LIKE,
  • 00:21:33.020 --> 00:21:35.280
  • "YOU KNOW WHAT, JESUS"--
  • 00:21:35.280 --> 00:21:36.160
  • AND, REALLY, THE POWER
  • 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:37.150
  • FOR ME CAME AT THE MOMENT --
  • 00:21:37.150 --> 00:21:38.160
  • THE WHOLE BREAKTHROUGH IN
  • 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.020
  • MY LIFE -- AND IT WAS PAINFUL
  • 00:21:40.020 --> 00:21:41.000
  • GETTING THERE, I'M NOT GONNA
  • 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.040
  • MINIMIZE THAT FOR ANYBODY --
  • 00:21:42.040 --> 00:21:43.070
  • WAS WHEN I REALLY CAME TO THE
  • 00:21:43.070 --> 00:21:45.200
  • POINT OF BEING ABLE TO FORGIVE
  • 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:46.290
  • THE ABUSERS AGAINST ME.
  • 00:21:46.290 --> 00:21:48.130
  • AT THAT TIME-- YOU KNOW, AND IT
  • 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:50.220
  • WAS LIKE THE LORD WAS SPEAKING
  • 00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:52.030
  • TO ME.
  • 00:21:52.030 --> 00:21:52.280
  • AND I KNEW-- IT WAS LIKE I
  • 00:21:52.280 --> 00:21:54.060
  • WAS-- I'D HIT THIS WALL AND I
  • 00:21:54.060 --> 00:21:55.270
  • WASN'T GONNA GO FURTHER.
  • 00:21:55.270 --> 00:21:57.050
  • AND I CAN TELL YOU A DIRECT
  • 00:21:57.050 --> 00:21:59.030
  • CORRELATION BETWEEN THE NIGHT--
  • 00:21:59.030 --> 00:22:01.040
  • I WAS IN A SMALL GROUP AT
  • 00:22:01.040 --> 00:22:01.290
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:22:01.290 --> 00:22:02.160
  • SO, IT WAS MY SMALL-GROUP
  • 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:03.080
  • LEADERS.
  • 00:22:03.080 --> 00:22:03.230
  • WE WERE ON OUR KNEES.
  • 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:05.000
  • IT TOOK ME NEARLY TWO HOURS,
  • 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.150
  • LIKE, TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE
  • 00:22:06.150 --> 00:22:08.190
  • WORDS FROM MY HEART WHERE I WAS
  • 00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:11.010
  • ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, NAME THE
  • 00:22:11.010 --> 00:22:12.190
  • INJUSTICE THAT WAS DONE TOWARDS
  • 00:22:12.190 --> 00:22:14.060
  • ME AND TO BE ABLE TO TRULY
  • 00:22:14.060 --> 00:22:16.260
  • FORGIVE FROM MY HEART.
  • 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:18.030
  • BUT I CAN TELL YOU -- FROM THAT
  • 00:22:18.030 --> 00:22:19.140
  • NIGHT TO HERE, EVERYTHING
  • 00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:21.000
  • CHANGED.
  • 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.250
  • IT WAS LIKE A FREEDOM CAME,
  • 00:22:22.250 --> 00:22:23.270
  • CHAINS BROKE.
  • 00:22:23.270 --> 00:22:26.130
  • UM, AND THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE
  • 00:22:26.130 --> 00:22:27.200
  • BETWEEN ME JUST RECEIVING GOD'S
  • 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.090
  • AND WHEN I WAS ABLE, THEN, TO
  • 00:22:32.110 --> 00:22:34.110
  • FORGIVE, IT OPENED THE DOOR TO
  • 00:22:34.110 --> 00:22:35.160
  • SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY AND DESTINY
  • 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:36.210
  • -- AND A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE
  • 00:22:36.210 --> 00:22:37.210
  • TODAY, CHRIS CAINE PREACHING
  • 00:22:37.210 --> 00:22:38.240
  • AND TEACHING AROUND THE WORLD,
  • 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:39.220
  • WRITING BOOKS, PROPEL, A21.
  • 00:22:39.220 --> 00:22:40.220
  • THAT CAME...AFTER THAT.
  • 00:22:40.220 --> 00:22:42.220
  • SO, MAYBE FOR SOMEONE, TODAY,
  • 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:45.070
  • WATCHING THIS, YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:22:45.070 --> 00:22:46.080
  • WONDERING: WHAT IS THIS KEY?
  • 00:22:46.080 --> 00:22:47.150
  • WHAT IS IT?
  • 00:22:47.150 --> 00:22:50.040
  • WHY HAVEN'T I HAD THIS
  • 00:22:50.040 --> 00:22:50.210
  • BREAKTHROUGH?
  • 00:22:50.210 --> 00:22:51.180
  • JESUS, I'VE RECEIVED YOUR
  • 00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:52.070
  • FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:22:52.070 --> 00:22:52.260
  • BUT, WHERE ARE THESE BLESSINGS
  • 00:22:52.260 --> 00:22:54.050
  • THAT I'VE BEEN BELIEVING YOU
  • 00:22:54.050 --> 00:22:54.250
  • WHERE IS THIS NEXT DOOR OF
  • 00:22:57.020 --> 00:22:57.210
  • OPPORTUNITY?
  • 00:22:57.210 --> 00:22:58.130
  • MAY I JUST SUGGEST THAT
  • 00:22:58.130 --> 00:22:59.080
  • PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PRAY
  • 00:22:59.080 --> 00:23:00.120
  • TO JESUS AND HE SAYS--
  • 00:23:00.120 --> 00:23:01.210
  • THIS IS HOW YOU PRAY TO THE
  • 00:23:01.210 --> 00:23:03.050
  • FATHER.
  • 00:23:03.050 --> 00:23:03.200
  • FORGIVE US OUR SINS AS WE
  • 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.020
  • FORGIVE THOSE THAT SIN AGAINST
  • 00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:07.290
  • US.
  • 00:23:07.290 --> 00:23:09.100
  • AND, MATTHEW SAYS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:09.100 --> 00:23:11.000
  • THAT, UM, IF WE DON'T FORGIVE
  • 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.070
  • MAN AND HE SINNED AGAINST US,
  • 00:23:12.070 --> 00:23:13.100
  • THEN GOD...WON'T FORGIVE OUR
  • 00:23:13.100 --> 00:23:14.110
  • SIN AGAINST HIM.
  • 00:23:14.110 --> 00:23:15.120
  • AND, BY THAT, HE MEANS THAT
  • 00:23:15.120 --> 00:23:16.020
  • THERE IS A BLOCKAGE THAT
  • 00:23:16.020 --> 00:23:17.060
  • HAPPENS WHEN UNFORGIVENESS AND
  • 00:23:17.060 --> 00:23:18.020
  • BITTERNESS SETTLES IN YOUR
  • 00:23:18.020 --> 00:23:19.240
  • HEART.
  • 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.220
  • AND, RIGHT NOW, THAT BLOCKAGE
  • 00:23:21.220 --> 00:23:22.230
  • CAN LIFT OFF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:23.290
  • I'M NOT MINIMIZING IT, I'M NOT
  • 00:23:23.290 --> 00:23:25.030
  • SAYING IT'S EASY.
  • 00:23:25.030 --> 00:23:25.210
  • THE ENEMY WANTS YOU TO CARRY
  • 00:23:25.210 --> 00:23:27.110
  • THAT PAIN, HE WANTS YOU TO
  • 00:23:27.110 --> 00:23:28.190
  • CARRY THAT UNFORGIVENESS.
  • 00:23:28.190 --> 00:23:30.040
  • BUT LIKE MY SPIRITUAL MOTHER,
  • 00:23:30.040 --> 00:23:31.160
  • JOYCE MEYER, ALWAYS SAYS,
  • 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.020
  • UNFORGIVENESS IS LIKE YOU
  • 00:23:33.020 --> 00:23:34.170
  • DRINKING POISON AND EXPECTING
  • 00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:35.080
  • SOMEONE ELSE TO DIE.
  • 00:23:35.080 --> 00:23:37.050
  • YOU NEED TO LET GO FOR YOU.
  • 00:23:37.050 --> 00:23:38.130
  • WORSE THAN ME BEING SEXUALLY
  • 00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:40.290
  • ABUSED FOR 12 YEARS -- MUCH
  • 00:23:40.290 --> 00:23:42.150
  • WORSE -- WAS ME CARRYING THOSE
  • 00:23:42.150 --> 00:23:44.010
  • ABUSERS INTO MY FUTURE EVERY
  • 00:23:44.010 --> 00:23:46.230
  • SINGLE DAY THROUGH BITTERNESS
  • 00:23:46.230 --> 00:23:47.180
  • AND UNFORGIVENESS.
  • 00:23:47.180 --> 00:23:49.010
  • WHEN I FORGAVE, IT SET ME FREE.
  • 00:23:49.010 --> 00:23:50.080
  • I WAS NO LONGER CARRYING THEM
  • 00:23:50.080 --> 00:23:52.160
  • INTO MY FUTURE.
  • 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:54.100
  • I COULD LEAVE THE PAST BEHIND
  • 00:23:54.100 --> 00:23:55.110
  • AND I COULD WALK INTO THE
  • 00:23:55.110 --> 00:23:56.240
  • FUTURE FREE AND IN THE FULLNESS
  • 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.140
  • OF WHO GOD CREATED ME TO BE.
  • 00:23:58.140 --> 00:23:59.250
  • AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AN
  • 00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:01.000
  • ACCIDENT THAT YOU'VE JUST TUNED
  • 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.120
  • INTO TBN RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:24:02.120 --> 00:24:03.110
  • I THINK THAT GOD IS SPEAKING TO
  • 00:24:03.110 --> 00:24:05.010
  • YOU AND YOU'VE BEEN WONDERING:
  • 00:24:05.010 --> 00:24:06.120
  • WHAT IS IT?
  • 00:24:06.120 --> 00:24:07.120
  • WHAT IS THIS BLOCKAGE?
  • 00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:08.080
  • AND, RIGHT NOW, I'M BELIEVING
  • 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:09.180
  • GOD WITH YOU THAT THE HOLY
  • 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:11.230
  • SPIRIT IS GONNA GIVE YOU THE
  • 00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:13.030
  • STRENGTH AND THE COURAGE TO BE
  • 00:24:13.030 --> 00:24:14.160
  • ABLE TO FORGIVE THOSE.
  • 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:16.090
  • YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND -- EVEN
  • 00:24:16.090 --> 00:24:17.100
  • AS I'M SAYING THIS, SOMEONE'S
  • 00:24:17.100 --> 00:24:18.080
  • THINKING, "BUT, CHRISTINE, IF I
  • 00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:19.140
  • FORGIVE, THAT SOMEHOW MAKES
  • 00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:21.030
  • WHAT THEY DID RIGHT."
  • 00:24:21.030 --> 00:24:22.100
  • AND THAT'S THE LIE THE ENEMY
  • 00:24:22.100 --> 00:24:23.250
  • WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE.
  • 00:24:23.250 --> 00:24:24.140
  • BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE IT
  • 00:24:24.140 --> 00:24:25.190
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:24:25.190 --> 00:24:26.040
  • CAN I JUST TELL YOU GOD IS YOUR
  • 00:24:26.040 --> 00:24:27.040
  • VINDICATOR?
  • 00:24:27.040 --> 00:24:29.180
  • AND HE WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU OR
  • 00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:30.090
  • FORSAKE YOU.
  • 00:24:30.090 --> 00:24:30.270
  • AND, LET ME JUST SAY --
  • 00:24:30.270 --> 00:24:32.070
  • SOMETIMES YOU DUCKING AND
  • 00:24:32.070 --> 00:24:33.200
  • LETTING GOD GET THEM IS A
  • 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:34.160
  • WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN YOU
  • 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:35.120
  • TRYING TO HOLD A GRUDGE
  • 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:36.210
  • AGAINST THEM FOREVER.
  • 00:24:36.210 --> 00:24:37.260
  • GOD IS ABLE TO MAKE A WAY WHERE
  • 00:24:37.260 --> 00:24:39.210
  • THERE IS NO WAY.
  • 00:24:39.210 --> 00:24:41.120
  • HE WILL DEAL WITH THAT.
  • 00:24:41.120 --> 00:24:42.140
  • AND YOU CAN JUST FIX YOUR EYES
  • 00:24:42.140 --> 00:24:44.010
  • ON HIM, RELEASE THE
  • 00:24:44.010 --> 00:24:45.190
  • PERPETRATORS OF THAT INJUSTICE
  • 00:24:45.190 --> 00:24:46.290
  • TO GOD,
  • 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:50.230
  • AND YOU BEGIN TO MOVE
  • 00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:51.110
  • FORWARD, AS YOU RECEIVE THE
  • 00:24:51.110 --> 00:24:52.010
  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW SOMETHING
  • 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.070
  • THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED IN MY OWN
  • 00:24:54.070 --> 00:24:54.290
  • LIFE IS I'VE HAD TO FORGIVE.
  • 00:24:54.290 --> 00:24:56.250
  • AND THEN, I'VE HAD TO FORGIVE
  • 00:24:56.250 --> 00:24:59.000
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:03.090
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:25:03.090 --> 00:25:04.040
  • - LAURIE: IT'S LIKE: OKAY, I
  • 00:25:04.040 --> 00:25:04.250
  • THOUGHT I FORGAVE THEM.
  • 00:25:04.250 --> 00:25:05.130
  • I'VE...GOTTA DO IT AGAIN.
  • 00:25:05.130 --> 00:25:06.110
  • YOU KNOW, AND I LOVE GOD'S-- I
  • 00:25:06.110 --> 00:25:08.100
  • LOVE GOD'S GRACE BECAUSE WHEN
  • 00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:09.250
  • JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES, THEY
  • 00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:10.160
  • SAID, "OKAY, WELL, LORD,
  • 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.160
  • HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE
  • 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:12.280
  • SUPPOSED TO FORGIVE?"
  • 00:25:12.280 --> 00:25:14.240
  • AND HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.210
  • FORGIVE SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN."
  • 00:25:16.210 --> 00:25:19.110
  • AND IF YOU THINK OF THAT, YOU
  • 00:25:19.110 --> 00:25:20.190
  • JUST THINK: OH, THAT'S JUST
  • 00:25:20.190 --> 00:25:21.140
  • CRAZY...
  • 00:25:21.140 --> 00:25:22.110
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:25:22.110 --> 00:25:22.280
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:25:22.280 --> 00:25:23.080
  • - LAURIE: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:25:23.080 --> 00:25:23.290
  • - VICTORIA: IT WOULD TAKE A
  • 00:25:23.290 --> 00:25:24.190
  • LOT.
  • 00:25:24.190 --> 00:25:24.270
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:25:24.270 --> 00:25:25.110
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S WHAT GOD'S
  • 00:25:25.110 --> 00:25:26.010
  • GRACE WAS.
  • 00:25:26.010 --> 00:25:26.120
  • - CHRISTINE: IT IS.
  • 00:25:26.120 --> 00:25:26.280
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S WHAT IT IS
  • 00:25:26.280 --> 00:25:27.180
  • TODAY.
  • 00:25:27.180 --> 00:25:29.040
  • YOU MIGHT HAVE TO FORGIVE...
  • 00:25:29.040 --> 00:25:29.240
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:30.160
  • - LAURIE: ...OR ASK
  • 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.120
  • FORGIVENESS 490 TIMES...
  • 00:25:31.120 --> 00:25:32.280
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:25:32.280 --> 00:25:33.180
  • - LAURIE: ...A DAY.
  • 00:25:33.180 --> 00:25:34.130
  • THAT'S-- JESUS' GRACE--
  • 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:36.000
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S HIS GRACE.
  • 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.000
  • - LAURIE: --IS SO SUFFICIENT
  • 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:38.210
  • FOR US THAT HE ALLOWS IT.
  • 00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:39.220
  • GO AHEAD, BABY.
  • 00:25:39.220 --> 00:25:40.180
  • GO AHEAD.
  • 00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:42.230
  • - CHRISTINE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:43.100
  • - LAURIE: FORGIVE HIM, AGAIN.
  • 00:25:43.100 --> 00:25:44.040
  • I'M RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:25:44.040 --> 00:25:44.200
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:45.140
  • AND GOD HEALS AND TIME HEALS
  • 00:25:45.140 --> 00:25:48.020
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WAKE UP
  • 00:25:48.020 --> 00:25:49.190
  • ONE DAY.
  • 00:25:49.190 --> 00:25:50.170
  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:25:50.170 --> 00:25:52.070
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:25:52.070 --> 00:25:52.250
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S GONE.
  • 00:25:52.250 --> 00:25:53.200
  • THAT ANGST IS GONE.
  • 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:55.230
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S A HARD SHELL.
  • 00:25:55.230 --> 00:25:56.180
  • - LAURIE: IT IS.
  • 00:25:56.180 --> 00:25:57.030
  • - VICTORIA: IT WANTS TO CREATE
  • 00:25:57.030 --> 00:25:57.250
  • A HARDNESS.
  • 00:25:57.250 --> 00:25:58.150
  • IT WANTS TO CREATE A
  • 00:25:58.150 --> 00:25:59.080
  • CYNICALNESS.
  • 00:25:59.080 --> 00:26:01.100
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:26:01.100 --> 00:26:01.280
  • - VICTORIA: I MEAN, BITTERNESS
  • 00:26:01.280 --> 00:26:02.250
  • WANTS YOU TO-- IT WANTS TO
  • 00:26:02.250 --> 00:26:03.230
  • CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:26:03.230 --> 00:26:04.120
  • IT WANTS TO TAKE A PURE HEART
  • 00:26:04.120 --> 00:26:05.180
  • AND IT WANTS TO FILL IT WITH
  • 00:26:05.180 --> 00:26:07.220
  • JUST UNPURITY.
  • 00:26:07.220 --> 00:26:10.110
  • AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING
  • 00:26:10.110 --> 00:26:11.160
  • BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO
  • 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.250
  • FORGIVE WHEN SOMEONE'S DONE
  • 00:26:12.250 --> 00:26:13.150
  • SOMETHING TO YOU.
  • 00:26:13.150 --> 00:26:16.070
  • BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE
  • 00:26:16.070 --> 00:26:16.240
  • SCRIPTURE TEACHES US HOW TO
  • 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:17.250
  • FORGIVE.
  • 00:26:17.250 --> 00:26:20.000
  • IT SAYS TO PRAY FOR THOSE...
  • 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:21.280
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:26:21.280 --> 00:26:22.200
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:23.110
  • - VICTORIA: ...WHO PERSECUTE
  • 00:26:23.110 --> 00:26:24.020
  • YOU, PRAY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE
  • 00:26:24.020 --> 00:26:24.220
  • SINNED AGAINST YOU.
  • 00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:25.180
  • SO UNNATURAL.
  • 00:26:25.180 --> 00:26:28.140
  • SO UNNATURAL TO PRAY FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:26:28.140 --> 00:26:30.290
  • WHO HAVE HURT YOU.
  • 00:26:30.290 --> 00:26:33.080
  • BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S THE
  • 00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:34.000
  • BEGINNING.
  • 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:34.240
  • IF YOU CAN BEGIN TO UTTER,
  • 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.050
  • "GOD, BLESS THEM..."
  • 00:26:36.150 --> 00:26:39.150
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:26:39.150 --> 00:26:40.070
  • - VICTORIA: "...HELP THEM..."
  • 00:26:40.070 --> 00:26:40.280
  • YOU KNOW"
  • 00:26:40.280 --> 00:26:41.110
  • "FORGIVE"--
  • 00:26:41.110 --> 00:26:41.240
  • - LAURIE: AND IT MIGHT SOUND
  • 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:42.200
  • SO IMPOSSIBLE WHEN YOU FIRST
  • 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:43.160
  • SAY THAT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.080
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:26:45.080 --> 00:26:46.010
  • - LAURIE: YOU GO, "OKAY, I
  • 00:26:46.010 --> 00:26:46.210
  • DON'T REALLY MEAN THAT, BUT..."
  • 00:26:46.210 --> 00:26:47.130
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:47.230
  • IT GETS EASIER.
  • 00:26:47.230 --> 00:26:48.110
  • - VICTORIA: BUT I'M DOING IT
  • 00:26:48.110 --> 00:26:49.020
  • IN OBEDIENCE.
  • 00:26:49.020 --> 00:26:49.150
  • - LAURIE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:26:49.150 --> 00:26:50.080
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:26:50.080 --> 00:26:50.270
  • - VICTORIA: AND THERE'S THE--
  • 00:26:50.270 --> 00:26:51.180
  • THERE'S THE KEY.
  • 00:26:51.180 --> 00:26:52.020
  • - LAURIE: YES, THERE'S THE
  • 00:26:52.020 --> 00:26:52.220
  • KEY.
  • 00:26:52.220 --> 00:26:53.000
  • - CHRISTINE: VERY MUCH.
  • 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:53.230
  • - VICTORIA: WHAT ARE YOU DOIN'
  • 00:26:53.230 --> 00:26:54.150
  • IN OBEDIENCE?
  • 00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:54.280
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:26:54.280 --> 00:26:55.120
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:26:55.120 --> 00:26:55.270
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:26:55.270 --> 00:26:56.140
  • AND, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:26:56.140 --> 00:26:57.030
  • BREAKS THE HARD SHELL.
  • 00:26:57.030 --> 00:26:57.200
  • THAT'S WHAT BEGINS TO SOFTEN
  • 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.100
  • OUR HEART AND MAKE IT
  • 00:26:58.100 --> 00:26:59.030
  • PLIABLE...
  • 00:26:59.030 --> 00:27:00.250
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:27:00.250 --> 00:27:01.270
  • - VICTORIA: ...SO THEN GOD CAN
  • 00:27:01.270 --> 00:27:02.220
  • REALLY BEGIN TO DO THE WORK.
  • 00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:04.110
  • BECAUSE, IT'S DIFFICULT IN THAT
  • 00:27:04.110 --> 00:27:05.140
  • SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN YOU MAY
  • 00:27:05.140 --> 00:27:07.090
  • HAVE TO PRAY FOR THEM SEVENTY
  • 00:27:07.090 --> 00:27:08.190
  • TIMES SEVEN, BUT, ANYTHING
  • 00:27:08.190 --> 00:27:10.100
  • THAT YOU ARE GIVING OUT,
  • 00:27:10.100 --> 00:27:12.010
  • YOU ARE GOING TO GET BACK.
  • 00:27:12.010 --> 00:27:13.070
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:27:13.070 --> 00:27:13.240
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:14.140
  • - VICTORIA: SO, IF YOU WERE
  • 00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:15.160
  • PRAYING FOR YOUR ENEMIES, GOD
  • 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:16.070
  • IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
  • 00:27:16.070 --> 00:27:16.280
  • KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:27:16.280 --> 00:27:18.120
  • SOMEONE'S PRAYING FOR YOU.
  • 00:27:18.120 --> 00:27:19.030
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:27:19.030 --> 00:27:20.000
  • - VICTORIA: HE'S GONNA MAKE
  • 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:20.210
  • SURE THERE'S-- YOU KNOW, YOU'RE
  • 00:27:20.210 --> 00:27:21.210
  • GONNA BE ABLE TO-- TO OVERCOME.
  • 00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:23.100
  • BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY GOD
  • 00:27:23.100 --> 00:27:24.240
  • WORKS.
  • 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.220
  • HE SAYS IF WE GIVE, WE ALWAYS
  • 00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:27.030
  • GET BACK.
  • 00:27:27.030 --> 00:27:28.080
  • SO, SOMETIMES WE THINK: I'M NOT
  • 00:27:28.080 --> 00:27:29.100
  • GONNA PRAY FOR THEM!
  • 00:27:29.100 --> 00:27:29.290
  • WHAT IF THEY GET BLESSED AND I
  • 00:27:29.290 --> 00:27:30.200
  • DON'T?
  • 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.020
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S THE TRUTH.
  • 00:27:33.020 --> 00:27:33.240
  • THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE THINK, YEAH.
  • 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:34.160
  • THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:35.030
  • - VICTORIA: THAT'S THE TRUTH.
  • 00:27:35.030 --> 00:27:35.240
  • I MEAN, OUR MIND TELLS US ALL
  • 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:36.150
  • KINDS OF CRAZY THINGS, YOU
  • 00:27:36.150 --> 00:27:37.040
  • KNOW?
  • 00:27:37.040 --> 00:27:39.200
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH,
  • 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:40.060
  • - VICTORIA: BUT, GOD HAS
  • 00:27:40.060 --> 00:27:40.250
  • GOT YOU.
  • 00:27:40.250 --> 00:27:41.050
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:27:41.050 --> 00:27:41.250
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:42.090
  • - VICTORIA: AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:27:42.090 --> 00:27:43.010
  • NO MAN CAN BLESS YOU THE WAY
  • 00:27:43.010 --> 00:27:44.090
  • GOD BLESSES YOU.
  • 00:27:44.090 --> 00:27:44.230
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON, GIRL.
  • 00:27:44.230 --> 00:27:45.130
  • YEAH.
  • 00:27:45.130 --> 00:27:45.230
  • - VICTORIA: SO, YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:46.150
  • TO LOOK FOR PEOPLE.
  • 00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:47.010
  • YOU JUST BE OBEDIENT TO GOD AND
  • 00:27:47.010 --> 00:27:47.230
  • GOD'LL TURN THINGS AROUND IN
  • 00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:48.130
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:50.170
  • AND SO, I JUST BELIEVE
  • 00:27:50.170 --> 00:27:51.040
  • THAT IS THE KEY.
  • 00:27:51.040 --> 00:27:52.060
  • IF YOU'RE ASKIN' TODAY, "WELL,
  • 00:27:52.060 --> 00:27:53.020
  • YEAH, IT'S EASY FOR YOU TO
  • 00:27:53.020 --> 00:27:54.080
  • FORGIVE..." -- WELL, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:56.090
  • IT'S NOT EASY FOR ANY OF US TO
  • 00:27:56.090 --> 00:27:57.090
  • FORGIVE.
  • 00:27:57.090 --> 00:27:58.090
  • BUT THE KEY IS TO BEGIN TO
  • 00:27:58.090 --> 00:28:00.120
  • PRAY FOR THE OTHER PERSON.
  • 00:28:00.120 --> 00:28:03.010
  • - LAURIE: WELL, AND I LOVE
  • 00:28:03.010 --> 00:28:03.240
  • WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
  • 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:04.100
  • YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T
  • 00:28:04.100 --> 00:28:05.110
  • DO IT BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD;
  • 00:28:05.110 --> 00:28:06.080
  • YOU DO IT BECAUSE JESUS SAID
  • 00:28:06.080 --> 00:28:07.000
  • TO.
  • 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:08.160
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.040
  • THAT'S IT.
  • 00:28:09.040 --> 00:28:09.150
  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW.
  • 00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:10.010
  • AND I REMEMBER MAMA JOYCE
  • 00:28:10.010 --> 00:28:10.250
  • SAYIN', YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY
  • 00:28:10.250 --> 00:28:12.250
  • HARD TO-- TO NOT LOVE SOMEONE
  • 00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:14.050
  • OR TO ACTUALLY HATE SOMEONE
  • 00:28:14.050 --> 00:28:15.210
  • WHEN YOU'RE PRAYIN' FOR 'EM.
  • 00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:17.200
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:18.050
  • - LAURIE: AND I THINK THAT'S A
  • 00:28:18.050 --> 00:28:19.100
  • KEY, TOO.
  • 00:28:19.100 --> 00:28:19.250
  • - CHRISTINE: VERY MUCH SO.
  • 00:28:19.250 --> 00:28:20.180
  • - LAURIE: AND JESUS KNOWS
  • 00:28:20.180 --> 00:28:21.140
  • THAT!
  • 00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:21.290
  • THAT'S WHY HE TOLD US TO DO IT!
  • 00:28:21.290 --> 00:28:23.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:24.030
  • - VICTORIA: 'CAUSE YOU DON'T
  • 00:28:24.030 --> 00:28:24.240
  • COME TO HIM AND GO, "I HATE
  • 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.140
  • THEM GOD..."
  • 00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:25.260
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:26.100 --> 00:28:27.100
  • AFTER A WHILE, YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:28:27.100 --> 00:28:28.070
  • LIKE, "I REALLY HATE THEM."
  • 00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:28.270
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:28:28.270 --> 00:28:29.210
  • IT'S LIKE THAT'S NOT-- YOU
  • 00:28:29.210 --> 00:28:30.250
  • KNOW, THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK FOR
  • 00:28:30.250 --> 00:28:32.040
  • THE LONG TERM.
  • 00:28:32.040 --> 00:28:33.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:33.120 --> 00:28:33.250
  • - LAURIE: WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:34.170
  • SO FUNNY.
  • 00:28:34.170 --> 00:28:35.280
  • HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED UP IN THE
  • 00:28:35.280 --> 00:28:36.290
  • PSALMS GOIN': OKAY, DOES DAVID
  • 00:28:36.290 --> 00:28:37.200
  • EVER PRAY THAT PEOPLE DIE?
  • 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.120
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:28:38.120 --> 00:28:39.290
  • - CHRISTINE: I DO!
  • 00:28:39.290 --> 00:28:40.150
  • I HAVE!
  • 00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:40.250
  • LIKE, "I CALLED DOWN TWO BEARS
  • 00:28:40.250 --> 00:28:42.090
  • FROM THE MOUNTAIN."
  • 00:28:42.090 --> 00:28:43.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:43.260 --> 00:28:44.070
  • I TOLD YOU, GIRLS -- YOU'RE
  • 00:28:44.070 --> 00:28:44.270
  • GONNA GET REALITY ON THIS SHOW.
  • 00:28:44.270 --> 00:28:45.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:45.190 --> 00:28:46.000
  • AT LEAST, YOU'RE GONNA GO,
  • 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:46.210
  • "THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL."
  • 00:28:46.210 --> 00:28:47.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:48.150
  • - LAURIE: BUT THEN, HE ALWAYS
  • 00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:49.220
  • ASKS FORGIVENESS--
  • 00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:51.170
  • - CHRISTINE: ALWAYS--
  • 00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:52.220
  • - LAURIE: --AND I'M ALWAYS
  • 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:53.120
  • LOOKIN' FOR THOSE SCRIPTURES.
  • 00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:54.030
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:28:54.030 --> 00:28:54.130
  • - CHRISTINE: AND YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:28:54.130 --> 00:28:55.040
  • KNOW THE REASON IS--
  • 00:28:55.040 --> 00:28:55.200
  • - LAURIE: IS THAT LEGAL?
  • 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.090
  • - CHRISTINE: --BECAUSE IT SETS
  • 00:28:56.090 --> 00:28:57.010
  • US FREE.
  • 00:28:57.010 --> 00:28:57.110
  • - LAURIE: YES, IT DOES.
  • 00:28:57.110 --> 00:28:57.290
  • - CHRISTINE: AND WHAT IT DOES
  • 00:28:57.290 --> 00:28:58.200
  • IS IT CHANGES US.
  • 00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.050
  • I THINK THAT'S THE DEAL.
  • 00:28:59.050 --> 00:28:59.230
  • I THINK I WEAVE FORGIVENESS
  • 00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:01.050
  • THROUGH THREE MAJOR CHAPTERS
  • 00:29:01.050 --> 00:29:02.170
  • IN THE BOOK.
  • 00:29:02.170 --> 00:29:02.290
  • BECAUSE, IN ONE OF THE
  • 00:29:02.290 --> 00:29:04.080
  • CHAPTERS, I TALK ABOUT A
  • 00:29:04.080 --> 00:29:05.110
  • FRIENDSHIP BETRAYAL.
  • 00:29:05.110 --> 00:29:05.270
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:29:05.270 --> 00:29:06.200
  • - CHRISTINE: AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.170
  • UM...IT'S ONE THING TO FORGIVE
  • 00:29:08.170 --> 00:29:09.080
  • THE--
  • 00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:09.170
  • - LAURIE: IT WASN'T US.
  • 00:29:09.170 --> 00:29:10.140
  • [CHRISTINE LAUGHS]
  • 00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:11.130
  • WASN'T US.
  • 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:12.020
  • WASN'T HER.
  • 00:29:12.020 --> 00:29:12.250
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH, I'M HERE,
  • 00:29:12.250 --> 00:29:13.240
  • JUST STRUGGLING WITH, REALLY,
  • 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:14.290
  • SINCE WE'RE--
  • 00:29:14.290 --> 00:29:15.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:15.230
  • NO.
  • 00:29:15.230 --> 00:29:16.140
  • IT'S ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT
  • 00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:17.280
  • FORGIVING THE ABUSERS FROM 30
  • 00:29:17.280 --> 00:29:19.080
  • YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO --
  • 00:29:19.080 --> 00:29:21.010
  • WELL, NOW, YOU KNOW, 45 YEARS
  • 00:29:21.010 --> 00:29:22.090
  • AGO.
  • 00:29:22.090 --> 00:29:23.190
  • AND, EVEN AS CHRISTIANS, PEOPLE
  • 00:29:23.270 --> 00:29:26.270
  • KIND OF GET EXCITED.
  • 00:29:26.270 --> 00:29:28.020
  • "YEAH, WOW, CHRISTINE FORGAVE
  • 00:29:28.020 --> 00:29:29.150
  • THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE-- ABUSED
  • 00:29:29.150 --> 00:29:30.140
  • HER, BACK THEN."
  • 00:29:30.140 --> 00:29:31.140
  • BUT THEN, YOU FORGET: WE'RE
  • 00:29:31.140 --> 00:29:33.090
  • STILL LIVING TODAY.
  • 00:29:33.090 --> 00:29:34.090
  • AND SO, NOW, WHAT'S-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:29:34.090 --> 00:29:35.120
  • IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY, ALMOST
  • 00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:36.200
  • IMPOSSIBLE, THAT ANYTHING LIKE
  • 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.160
  • THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
  • 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:39.260
  • SO, I'M NOT LIKELY TO EVER HAVE
  • 00:29:39.260 --> 00:29:41.000
  • TO FORGIVE THAT KIND OF
  • 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:41.240
  • UM...BUT, NOWADAYS, IT'S, UM--
  • 00:29:44.140 --> 00:29:45.280
  • IT DOESN'T CHANGE.
  • 00:29:45.280 --> 00:29:48.070
  • IT'S A DIFFERENT SORT OF PAIN.
  • 00:29:48.070 --> 00:29:48.280
  • BUT HERE I WAS WALKING-- AND
  • 00:29:48.280 --> 00:29:50.250
  • DAVID SAYS IN THE PSALMS, YOU
  • 00:29:50.250 --> 00:29:52.030
  • KNOW, "IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY
  • 00:29:52.030 --> 00:29:53.140
  • IF MY ENEMY"--
  • 00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:54.020
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:29:54.020 --> 00:29:55.020
  • - CHRISTINE: BECAUSE SOMETIMES
  • 00:29:55.020 --> 00:29:56.020
  • IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND WHEN AN
  • 00:29:56.020 --> 00:29:56.240
  • ENEMY DOES SOMETHING TO HURT
  • 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:57.140
  • YOU.
  • 00:29:57.140 --> 00:29:58.000
  • LIKE, IF SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING
  • 00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:58.280
  • IF I DON'T KNOW THEM, IT
  • 00:30:02.060 --> 00:30:03.110
  • DOESN'T EVEN...AFFECT ME,
  • 00:30:03.110 --> 00:30:04.000
  • REALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY.
  • 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:04.210
  • I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'VE
  • 00:30:04.210 --> 00:30:05.120
  • DONE IT.
  • 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:05.220
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:30:05.220 --> 00:30:06.060
  • - CHRISTINE: SO, I OFTEN
  • 00:30:06.060 --> 00:30:06.250
  • THINK: SHOULDN'T WASTE YOUR
  • 00:30:06.250 --> 00:30:07.170
  • TIME BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN READ
  • 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:09.160
  • IT.
  • 00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:10.030
  • BUT, WHEN IT'S A CLOSE FRIEND--
  • 00:30:10.030 --> 00:30:10.280
  • AND HE SAYS, "BUT MY FRIEND
  • 00:30:10.280 --> 00:30:12.000
  • WHO I USED TO GO TO THE HOUSE
  • 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.190
  • OF GOD WITH AND WE
  • 00:30:13.190 --> 00:30:14.140
  • WORSHIPED..."
  • 00:30:14.140 --> 00:30:15.180
  • AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT MORE
  • 00:30:15.180 --> 00:30:16.090
  • OF A REALITY WITH PEOPLE.
  • 00:30:16.090 --> 00:30:17.000
  • YOU GO: WHAT DO I DO?
  • 00:30:17.030 --> 00:30:20.030
  • AND OUR CHURCHES ARE FULL OF
  • 00:30:20.030 --> 00:30:21.100
  • THIS WITH PEOPLE THAT I WAS IN
  • 00:30:21.100 --> 00:30:22.230
  • INTIMATE FRIENDSHIP WITH, WE
  • 00:30:22.230 --> 00:30:23.230
  • WERE PRAYING TOGETHER, WE
  • 00:30:23.230 --> 00:30:24.220
  • WERE-- LOVED EACH OTHER'S
  • 00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:25.220
  • KIDS...YOU KNOW.
  • 00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:26.180
  • AND THE, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:30:26.180 --> 00:30:27.280
  • SOMETHING HAPPENS.
  • 00:30:27.280 --> 00:30:28.140
  • AND, FOR ME, I THINK PROBABLY
  • 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:29.200
  • THE LAST FEW YEARS OF MY LIFE,
  • 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:30.290
  • THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, A
  • 00:30:30.290 --> 00:30:32.140
  • FRIENDSHIP BETRAYAL WAS THE
  • 00:30:32.140 --> 00:30:34.080
  • BIGGEST UNEXPECTED, UM, SORT OF
  • 00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:36.000
  • KICK IN THE GUTS.
  • 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.230
  • IN THE EUGENE PETERSON VERSION,
  • 00:30:38.230 --> 00:30:41.110
  • IN THE PSALMS, HE SAYS,
  • 00:30:41.110 --> 00:30:42.180
  • "WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU'VE
  • 00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:43.230
  • BEEN KICKED IN THE GUT?"
  • 00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:44.130
  • YOU'VE GOTTA BE CLOSE TO KICK
  • 00:30:44.130 --> 00:30:45.130
  • SOMEONE IN THE GUT.
  • 00:30:45.130 --> 00:30:46.020
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:30:46.020 --> 00:30:46.190
  • - CHRISTINE: SEE, A LOT OF
  • 00:30:46.190 --> 00:30:48.050
  • PEOPLE -- IF THEY'RE FAR AWAY
  • 00:30:48.050 --> 00:30:49.060
  • AND THEY MIGHT SAY THINGS ABOUT
  • 00:30:49.060 --> 00:30:51.090
  • ME, IT DOESN'T WIND ME.
  • 00:30:51.090 --> 00:30:52.050
  • BECAUSE IT'S NOT-- IT'S NOT
  • 00:30:52.050 --> 00:30:52.250
  • CLOSE.
  • 00:30:52.250 --> 00:30:53.050
  • BUT IF YOU'RE PART OF MY FAMILY
  • 00:30:53.050 --> 00:30:54.150
  • OR MY INTIMATE FRIENDSHIP
  • 00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:55.130
  • CIRCLE -- OH, BOY...
  • 00:30:55.130 --> 00:30:56.090
  • AND THAT, THEN, IS, I THINK,
  • 00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:59.120
  • WHY JESUS IS, YOU KNOW:
  • 00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:00.240
  • SEVEN-- SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.
  • 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.000
  • AND GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:02.280
  • MY MERCIES ARE NEW TOMORROW
  • 00:31:02.280 --> 00:31:03.240
  • MORNING.
  • 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:04.160
  • AGAIN.
  • 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.030
  • AND THE NEXT MORNING.
  • 00:31:05.030 --> 00:31:06.020
  • AND THEY'RE NEW EVERY MORNING.
  • 00:31:06.020 --> 00:31:06.230
  • BECAUSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO
  • 00:31:06.230 --> 00:31:07.150
  • GET GOOD.
  • 00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:08.090
  • BY THIS WILL ALL MEN KNOW WE
  • 00:31:08.090 --> 00:31:09.250
  • ARE HIS DISCIPLES, BY THE LOVE
  • 00:31:09.250 --> 00:31:10.160
  • WE HAVE ONE FOR ANOTHER.
  • 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.260
  • NOW, I LOVE TO PREACH THIS
  • 00:31:11.260 --> 00:31:13.100
  • STUFF, BUT GOD WAS LIKE--
  • 00:31:13.100 --> 00:31:14.280
  • - LAURIE: YOU HAVE TO LIVE IT
  • 00:31:14.280 --> 00:31:15.190
  • OUT EVERY DAY.
  • 00:31:15.190 --> 00:31:16.020
  • - CHRISTINE: --SWEETHEART, YOU
  • 00:31:16.020 --> 00:31:16.290
  • WANNA WRITE A CHAPTER ABOUT
  • 00:31:16.290 --> 00:31:17.190
  • THIS?
  • 00:31:17.190 --> 00:31:17.280
  • YOU'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH IT.
  • 00:31:17.280 --> 00:31:18.190
  • - VICTORIA: THINK ABOUT DAVID.
  • 00:31:18.190 --> 00:31:19.110
  • HIS OWN FAMILY--
  • 00:31:19.110 --> 00:31:19.250
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:20.240
  • - VICTORIA: --YOU KNOW, DIDN'T
  • 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.070
  • EVEN--
  • 00:31:22.070 --> 00:31:22.250
  • HE DIDN'T QUALIFY IN HIS
  • 00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:24.040
  • FATHER'S EYES--
  • 00:31:24.040 --> 00:31:26.050
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YES.
  • 00:31:26.050 --> 00:31:27.050
  • IMAGINE THAT REJECTION.
  • 00:31:27.050 --> 00:31:27.230
  • - VICTORIA: --TO BE THE NEXT
  • 00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:28.140
  • KING.
  • 00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:28.230
  • BUT HIS BROTHERS QUALIFIED.
  • 00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:29.170
  • FOR WHATEVER REASON,
  • 00:31:29.170 --> 00:31:31.220
  • HIS FATHER DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
  • 00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:34.020
  • WHAT GOD WAS DOING.
  • 00:31:34.020 --> 00:31:35.190
  • SO, THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE
  • 00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:37.090
  • OUT THERE WHO-- PEOPLE DON'T
  • 00:31:37.090 --> 00:31:38.130
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT GOD'S DOING IN
  • 00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:39.270
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:31:39.270 --> 00:31:42.010
  • THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
  • 00:31:42.010 --> 00:31:43.130
  • ANOINTING.
  • 00:31:43.130 --> 00:31:43.240
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:44.130
  • - VICTORIA: THEY DON'T
  • 00:31:44.130 --> 00:31:45.010
  • UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE-- YOU
  • 00:31:45.010 --> 00:31:46.010
  • KNOW, YOU'VE GOT AN ASSIGNMENT
  • 00:31:46.010 --> 00:31:46.220
  • FROM GOD.
  • 00:31:46.220 --> 00:31:47.070
  • AND YOU CAN'T LET THAT HOLD YOU
  • 00:31:47.070 --> 00:31:48.200
  • BACK.
  • 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.090
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:31:49.090 --> 00:31:49.290
  • - VICTORIA: BECAUSE, DAVID WAS
  • 00:31:49.290 --> 00:31:50.250
  • IN THAT SAME BOAT.
  • 00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:52.080
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:52.260
  • - VICTORIA: HE WAS OUT IN THE
  • 00:31:52.260 --> 00:31:53.200
  • SHEPHERDS' FIELD.
  • 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:54.060
  • THE PROPHET SAMUEL CAME TO HIS
  • 00:31:54.060 --> 00:31:56.180
  • HOUSE AND SAID, "I'M HERE TO
  • 00:31:56.180 --> 00:31:59.110
  • ANOINT THE NEXT KING."
  • 00:31:59.110 --> 00:32:00.120
  • AND, HE SAID: "OH, GREAT!
  • 00:32:00.120 --> 00:32:01.230
  • WELL, I'VE GOT SEVEN SONS THAT
  • 00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:03.110
  • YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM."
  • 00:32:03.110 --> 00:32:05.200
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:06.070
  • - VICTORIA: AND PARADED
  • 00:32:06.070 --> 00:32:06.250
  • THEM IN FRONT OF OF HIM.
  • 00:32:06.250 --> 00:32:07.130
  • AND HE SAID: "WELL, THE KING'S
  • 00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:09.110
  • NOT HERE.
  • 00:32:09.110 --> 00:32:10.050
  • DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE SONS?"
  • 00:32:10.050 --> 00:32:11.010
  • AND IT WAS ONLY THEN...
  • 00:32:11.010 --> 00:32:12.220
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:32:12.220 --> 00:32:13.250
  • - VICTORIA: ...THAT HE BROUGHT
  • 00:32:13.250 --> 00:32:14.170
  • DAVID IN.
  • 00:32:14.170 --> 00:32:15.030
  • AND, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW
  • 00:32:15.030 --> 00:32:15.230
  • DAVID FELT.
  • 00:32:15.230 --> 00:32:16.280
  • - LAURIE: "THANKS A LOT."
  • 00:32:16.280 --> 00:32:17.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:17.170 --> 00:32:17.290
  • - VICTORIA: --THERE'S HIS
  • 00:32:17.290 --> 00:32:18.180
  • BROTHERS.
  • 00:32:18.180 --> 00:32:19.150
  • DID HE HANG HIS HEAD?
  • 00:32:19.150 --> 00:32:20.020
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:32:20.020 --> 00:32:21.100
  • - VICTORIA: DID HE COME IN
  • 00:32:21.100 --> 00:32:22.000
  • THINKIN': WOW...AM I EVEN THE
  • 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:22.210
  • ONE?
  • 00:32:22.210 --> 00:32:22.290
  • I'M THE LAST PICK.
  • 00:32:22.290 --> 00:32:23.260
  • AM I EVEN THE ONE?
  • 00:32:23.260 --> 00:32:24.290
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:32:24.290 --> 00:32:25.160
  • - VICTORIA: BUT IT WAS THAT
  • 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:26.130
  • DAY THAT SAMUEL SAID, "THIS IS
  • 00:32:26.130 --> 00:32:28.080
  • THE ONE," AND ANOINTED HIM.
  • 00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:28.280
  • BUT, YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AND
  • 00:32:28.280 --> 00:32:30.210
  • YOU THINK ABOUT THAT
  • 00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:31.240
  • REJECTION...
  • 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.020
  • - CHRISTINE: AW, YEAH.
  • 00:32:33.020 --> 00:32:33.290
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW.
  • 00:32:33.290 --> 00:32:34.160
  • THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ENEMY
  • 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:35.050
  • DOES!
  • 00:32:35.050 --> 00:32:36.160
  • CHRIST IMAGINE.
  • 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.020
  • - VICTORIA: IT BRINGS
  • 00:32:37.020 --> 00:32:37.190
  • CONDEMNATION.
  • 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:38.020
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, ALL THE
  • 00:32:38.020 --> 00:32:38.210
  • TIME.
  • 00:32:38.210 --> 00:32:39.030
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:32:39.030 --> 00:32:39.280
  • AND WHEN YOU'RE UNDER THAT
  • 00:32:39.280 --> 00:32:40.170
  • HEAVY CONDEMNATION...
  • 00:32:40.170 --> 00:32:41.240
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:42.110
  • - VICTORIA: ...AND THAT-- YOU
  • 00:32:42.110 --> 00:32:43.060
  • CAN'T EVEN FIND THE FAITH.
  • 00:32:43.060 --> 00:32:44.160
  • SO, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ONE
  • 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.030
  • THING THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY
  • 00:32:46.030 --> 00:32:47.170
  • SEPARATE IN OUR MIND.
  • 00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:49.190
  • WHEN WE'RE FEELING CONDEMNED...
  • 00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:50.140
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:51.130
  • - VICTORIA: ...YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:32:51.130 --> 00:32:52.090
  • UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT GOD.
  • 00:32:52.090 --> 00:32:53.040
  • - LAURIE: NO.
  • 00:32:53.040 --> 00:32:53.200
  • - CHRISTINE: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.060
  • - VICTORIA: THAT'S THE ENEMY
  • 00:32:55.060 --> 00:32:55.270
  • SPEAKING TO YOU.
  • 00:32:55.270 --> 00:32:56.140
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:56.290
  • - VICTORIA: GOD CONVICTS US.
  • 00:32:56.290 --> 00:32:57.200
  • HE DOESN'T CONDEMN US.
  • 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.070
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:32:58.070 --> 00:32:58.240
  • - VICTORIA: HE SHOWS US THE
  • 00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:59.250
  • WAY.
  • 00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:00.120
  • HE DOESN'T SAY, "YOU'RE A
  • 00:33:00.120 --> 00:33:01.110
  • LOSER."
  • 00:33:01.110 --> 00:33:02.030
  • - CHRISTINE: EXACTLY. YEAH.
  • 00:33:02.030 --> 00:33:02.280
  • - VICTORIA: "YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:33:02.280 --> 00:33:04.030
  • YOU KNOW, YOU-YOU STAY IN THE
  • 00:33:04.030 --> 00:33:05.140
  • BACK OF THE CHURCH, CHRISTINE.
  • 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:06.060
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:33:06.060 --> 00:33:06.290
  • HIDE YOURSELF."
  • 00:33:06.290 --> 00:33:08.070
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:33:08.070 --> 00:33:09.170
  • - VICTORIA: THAT'S NOT WHAT
  • 00:33:09.170 --> 00:33:10.070
  • GOD DOES.
  • 00:33:10.070 --> 00:33:10.270
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:33:10.270 --> 00:33:11.140
  • - VICTORIA: HE LOVES US TO
  • 00:33:11.140 --> 00:33:12.040
  • REPENTANCE.
  • 00:33:12.040 --> 00:33:12.160
  • HIS GOODNESS BRINGS US TO THAT
  • 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.080
  • PLACE OF UNDERSTANDING SO THAT
  • 00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:14.060
  • WE CAN TURN.
  • 00:33:14.060 --> 00:33:15.290
  • SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S
  • 00:33:16.120 --> 00:33:19.120
  • ANOTHER KEY...
  • 00:33:19.120 --> 00:33:19.260
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:33:19.260 --> 00:33:20.210
  • - VICTORIA: ...TO BRING PEOPLE
  • 00:33:20.210 --> 00:33:21.140
  • OUT OF THAT PLACE THAT EVEN
  • 00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.010
  • LIKE, YOU FELT THAT DAY.
  • 00:33:23.010 --> 00:33:24.080
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:33:24.080 --> 00:33:24.230
  • - VICTORIA: AND YOU SAID, "I
  • 00:33:24.230 --> 00:33:25.180
  • MADE THE CHOICE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:26.280
  • THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
  • 00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:28.030
  • CONDEMNATION..."
  • 00:33:28.030 --> 00:33:29.140
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:29.290
  • - VICTORIA: "...AND
  • 00:33:29.290 --> 00:33:31.030
  • UNDERSTANDING OF CONVICTION..."
  • 00:33:31.030 --> 00:33:32.110
  • - CHRISTINE: IT IS.
  • 00:33:32.110 --> 00:33:33.080
  • - VICTORIA: "...HOW TO
  • 00:33:33.080 --> 00:33:34.110
  • SEPARATE THE TWO."
  • 00:33:34.110 --> 00:33:34.260
  • - CHRISTINE: IT IS HUGE.
  • 00:33:34.260 --> 00:33:35.240
  • 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, SCRIPTURE
  • 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:36.140
  • TELLS US, "THEREFORE, THERE IS
  • 00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:37.080
  • NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE
  • 00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:37.290
  • THAT ARE IN CHRIST JESUS."
  • 00:33:37.290 --> 00:33:38.180
  • SO, "NO" MEANS "NONE."
  • 00:33:38.180 --> 00:33:40.240
  • IN THE GREEK, HEBREW, AND
  • 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:41.270
  • ARAMAIC...
  • 00:33:41.270 --> 00:33:42.120
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:33:42.120 --> 00:33:43.120
  • ...THAT WORD THERE IS
  • 00:33:43.120 --> 00:33:44.030
  • "NO CONDEMNATION."
  • 00:33:44.030 --> 00:33:44.180
  • BUT, THEN, YOU'VE GOTTA
  • 00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:46.060
  • UNDERSTAND THE ENEMY'S PROFILE,
  • 00:33:46.060 --> 00:33:46.280
  • JOB PROFILE.
  • 00:33:46.280 --> 00:33:48.020
  • HE'S THE ACCUSER OF THE
  • 00:33:48.020 --> 00:33:49.120
  • BRETHREN.
  • 00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:51.020
  • LAST I CHECKED, HE'S VERY
  • 00:33:51.020 --> 00:33:51.240
  • GAINFULLY EMPLOYED.
  • 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.220
  • HE'S DOING WHAT HE DOES BEST --
  • 00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:54.050
  • ACCUSING THE BRETHREN.
  • 00:33:54.050 --> 00:33:55.190
  • THAT'S WHY YOU THINK, "WHAT IS
  • 00:33:55.190 --> 00:33:57.040
  • THIS INCESSANT VOICE IN MY
  • 00:33:57.040 --> 00:33:58.200
  • HEAD?"
  • 00:33:58.200 --> 00:33:59.280
  • AND, NORMALLY, WHEN YOU'RE JUST
  • 00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:00.250
  • ABOUT TO GO TO SLEEP, OR JUST
  • 00:34:00.250 --> 00:34:01.270
  • ABOUT TO WAKE UP, THE ACCUSER
  • 00:34:01.270 --> 00:34:03.190
  • OF THE BRETHREN -- HE BEGINS,
  • 00:34:03.190 --> 00:34:04.240
  • WHICH IS WHY JESUS IS SEATED OF
  • 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.100
  • THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER,
  • 00:34:06.100 --> 00:34:07.210
  • MAKING INTERCESSION FOR US ALL
  • 00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:08.120
  • OF THE TIME.
  • 00:34:08.120 --> 00:34:09.020
  • AND, WE HAVE GOT TO REMIND
  • 00:34:09.020 --> 00:34:10.260
  • OURSELVES, THOUGH.
  • 00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:12.090
  • I'VE GOT TO TELL MYSELF BECAUSE
  • 00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:14.120
  • CONDEMNATION COMES TO US MORE
  • 00:34:14.120 --> 00:34:15.260
  • NATURALLY THAN CONVICTION.
  • 00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:17.140
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:34:17.140 --> 00:34:17.290
  • - CHRISTINE: IT'S GOD'S
  • 00:34:17.290 --> 00:34:18.180
  • KINDNESS THAT LEADS US TO
  • 00:34:18.180 --> 00:34:19.070
  • REPENTANCE.
  • 00:34:19.070 --> 00:34:19.190
  • SO HE CONVICTS US OF SIN...SO
  • 00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:20.160
  • WE CAN BE FREE TO KEEP MOVING
  • 00:34:20.160 --> 00:34:21.240
  • ON.
  • 00:34:21.240 --> 00:34:22.180
  • CONDEMNATION GETS US STUCK, UM,
  • 00:34:22.180 --> 00:34:23.260
  • WITH THAT WHOLE THOUGHT THAT I
  • 00:34:23.260 --> 00:34:25.100
  • CAN'T AND I WON'T.
  • 00:34:25.100 --> 00:34:26.150
  • AND I THINK IT HINDERS GIVING
  • 00:34:26.150 --> 00:34:28.110
  • FORGIVENESS AND RECEIVING
  • 00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:29.210
  • FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:34:29.210 --> 00:34:31.030
  • - VICTORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:34:31.030 --> 00:34:31.210
  • - CHRISTINE: BOTH THINGS.
  • 00:34:31.210 --> 00:34:32.100
  • - VICTORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:34:32.100 --> 00:34:32.270
  • - CHRISTINE: BECAUSE,
  • 00:34:32.270 --> 00:34:33.140
  • SOMETIMES-- AND SOMEONE -- YOU
  • 00:34:33.140 --> 00:34:34.050
  • MIGHT BE WATCHING THIS, AND,
  • 00:34:34.050 --> 00:34:34.250
  • YOU'RE ACTUALLY, AS I'VE BEEN
  • 00:34:34.250 --> 00:34:35.230
  • TALKING, YOU'RE LIKE, "I'M THE
  • 00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:37.000
  • ONE THAT DID THE THING TO THE
  • 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:38.060
  • FRIEND, CHRISTINE, THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:34:38.060 --> 00:34:39.130
  • TALKING ABOUT."
  • 00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:40.140
  • I WANT YOU TO KNOW-- I MEAN,
  • 00:34:40.140 --> 00:34:42.100
  • I'VE DONE IT TO PLENTY PEOPLE,
  • 00:34:42.100 --> 00:34:43.070
  • TOO.
  • 00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:44.010
  • SOMETIMES UNINTENTIONALLY --
  • 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:45.000
  • AND I TALK OPENLY ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:45.210
  • IT'S NOT JUST--
  • 00:34:45.210 --> 00:34:46.060
  • SO, THAT'S WHY JESUS SAYS MAKE
  • 00:34:46.060 --> 00:34:48.240
  • SURE YOU'RE FORGIVING AND
  • 00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:49.130
  • RECEIVING FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:34:49.130 --> 00:34:51.020
  • BECAUSE THE FACT IS,
  • 00:34:51.020 --> 00:34:51.280
  • OFTENTIMES, WE DO THINGS TO
  • 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.200
  • HURT PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T EVEN
  • 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:54.180
  • REALIZE THAT WE'VE DONE.
  • 00:34:54.180 --> 00:34:56.120
  • AS A MOTHER, HOW MANY TIMES
  • 00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:57.160
  • HAVE I SAID THINGS, UNTHINKING.
  • 00:34:57.160 --> 00:34:59.060
  • OR-- AND MY KIDS HAVE TAKEN IT
  • 00:34:59.060 --> 00:35:00.230
  • -- AND I'VE GOT TWO TEENAGE
  • 00:35:00.230 --> 00:35:02.000
  • DAUGHTERS, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT--
  • 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:03.140
  • THAT CAN BE TRANSLATED WITH
  • 00:35:03.140 --> 00:35:05.060
  • HORMONAL PATTERNS--
  • 00:35:05.060 --> 00:35:06.200
  • - LAURIE: YEAH!
  • 00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:08.070
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:35:08.070 --> 00:35:09.060
  • - CHRISTINE: --DURING THE
  • 00:35:09.060 --> 00:35:09.250
  • MONTH OF-- HOW--
  • 00:35:09.250 --> 00:35:10.090
  • SO, YOU KNOW, UM,
  • 00:35:10.090 --> 00:35:10.290
  • SEVERAL TIMES, I'VE SAID TO
  • 00:35:10.290 --> 00:35:11.190
  • THEM: "I'M SO SORRY.
  • 00:35:11.190 --> 00:35:12.160
  • WILL YOU FORGIVE MUMMY?
  • 00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:13.040
  • I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID IT WITH
  • 00:35:13.040 --> 00:35:14.020
  • THAT TONE OF VOICE."
  • 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:14.180
  • OR, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETIMES I
  • 00:35:14.180 --> 00:35:15.270
  • HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
  • 00:35:15.270 --> 00:35:16.290
  • SO, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:35:16.290 --> 00:35:18.210
  • UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO GIVE IT.
  • 00:35:18.210 --> 00:35:19.270
  • BUT YOU MIGHT BE LISTENING TO
  • 00:35:19.270 --> 00:35:21.000
  • THIS, GOING, "I DID THAT TO A
  • 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:21.210
  • FRIEND."
  • 00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:22.170
  • I WANT YOU TO KNOW, EVEN FOR
  • 00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:23.270
  • YOU, THERE IS NOW NO
  • 00:35:23.270 --> 00:35:25.080
  • CONDEMNATION.
  • 00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:26.200
  • AND I AGONIZED THROUGH THAT
  • 00:35:26.200 --> 00:35:27.190
  • CHAPTER BECAUSE I'M SAYING THAT
  • 00:35:27.190 --> 00:35:28.110
  • TO YOU.
  • 00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:29.290
  • AND FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT
  • 00:35:29.290 --> 00:35:30.210
  • WITH CONVICTION, I COULD BE
  • 00:35:30.210 --> 00:35:32.220
  • NOW SAYING IT TO THE PERSON
  • 00:35:32.220 --> 00:35:33.270
  • THAT REALLY HURT ME.
  • 00:35:33.270 --> 00:35:34.160
  • AND YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT.
  • 00:35:34.160 --> 00:35:35.040
  • AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M FREE
  • 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:36.010
  • AND YOU'RE FREE.
  • 00:35:36.010 --> 00:35:36.240
  • AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF
  • 00:35:36.240 --> 00:35:38.010
  • IT.
  • 00:35:38.010 --> 00:35:38.130
  • - LAURIE: BUT, I ALSO THINK
  • 00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:39.160
  • IT'S FREEING TO ASK FOR
  • 00:35:39.160 --> 00:35:41.050
  • FORGIVENESS--
  • 00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:42.230
  • - CHRISTINE: VERY MUCH SO.
  • 00:35:42.230 --> 00:35:43.130
  • - LAURIE: --FROM PEOPLE.
  • 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:44.040
  • YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE ARE
  • 00:35:44.040 --> 00:35:45.010
  • PEOPLE-- I MEAN, THERE ARE
  • 00:35:45.010 --> 00:35:46.080
  • PEOPLE-- I MEAN, I REMEMBER,
  • 00:35:46.080 --> 00:35:47.270
  • YOU KNOW, THINGS, LITTLE
  • 00:35:47.270 --> 00:35:49.150
  • THINGS, EVEN GROWIN' UP THAT--
  • 00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:51.010
  • THAT...I MIGHT HAVE SAID OR DID
  • 00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:53.190
  • TO SOMEBODY.
  • 00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:54.160
  • AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE
  • 00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:55.070
  • TODAY.
  • 00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:55.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:56.090
  • AND I CAN'T FIND 'EM, BUT...YOU
  • 00:35:56.090 --> 00:35:57.130
  • KNOW...I'M SORRY.
  • 00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:58.130
  • - CHRISTINE: YES!
  • 00:35:58.130 --> 00:35:59.070
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:35:59.070 --> 00:35:59.280
  • - LAURIE: I AM SO SORRY.
  • 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.190
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:01.040
  • - LAURIE: IF GOD WOULD HAVE
  • 00:36:01.040 --> 00:36:01.260
  • YOU WATCHIN' TODAY...
  • 00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:03.040
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S HOW I
  • 00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:03.270
  • FEEL.
  • 00:36:03.270 --> 00:36:04.120
  • - LAURIE: ...I THINK YOU KNOW
  • 00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:05.130
  • WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT AND I'M
  • 00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:06.040
  • SORRY.
  • 00:36:06.040 --> 00:36:06.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:36:06.130 --> 00:36:06.240
  • THAT'S ALSO A VERY FREEING
  • 00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:07.250
  • THING.
  • 00:36:07.250 --> 00:36:09.140
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:36:09.140 --> 00:36:10.070
  • VERY MUCH SO.
  • 00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:10.250
  • - LAURIE: BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:36:10.250 --> 00:36:11.170
  • IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE
  • 00:36:11.170 --> 00:36:12.130
  • FORGIVENESS AND YOU DON'T GIVE
  • 00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:13.120
  • FORGIVENESS, SATAN LOVES TO USE
  • 00:36:13.120 --> 00:36:14.040
  • THAT TO--
  • 00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:15.280
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YES, HE DOES.
  • 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.140
  • - LAURIE: --TO-- IT COULD HAVE
  • 00:36:17.140 --> 00:36:18.130
  • WRECKED YOUR MARRIAGE...
  • 00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:19.080
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, VERY MUCH.
  • 00:36:19.080 --> 00:36:20.150
  • - LAURIE: ...IT COULD WRECK
  • 00:36:20.150 --> 00:36:21.060
  • YOUR CHILDREN, IT COULD WRECK
  • 00:36:21.060 --> 00:36:21.280
  • ALL-- YOU COULD--
  • 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.030
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:23.200
  • - LAURIE: YOUR LIFE COULD BE
  • 00:36:23.200 --> 00:36:24.220
  • WRECKED.
  • 00:36:24.220 --> 00:36:25.060
  • WE COULD ALL BE VICTIMS OF
  • 00:36:25.060 --> 00:36:26.230
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:36:26.230 --> 00:36:28.280
  • IT'S THERE TO DESTROY BECAUSE
  • 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.150
  • THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL DOES.
  • 00:36:31.150 --> 00:36:33.090
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S GOOD TO GET
  • 00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:34.060
  • QUICK AT REPENTING.
  • 00:36:34.060 --> 00:36:35.070
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH, HULLO.
  • 00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:35.270
  • - LAURIE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:36:35.270 --> 00:36:38.170
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:39.010
  • IF YOU DON'T CARRY
  • 00:36:41.140 --> 00:36:42.070
  • CONDEMNATION...
  • 00:36:42.070 --> 00:36:42.210
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:36:42.210 --> 00:36:43.080
  • - VICTORIA: ...YOU CAN GET
  • 00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:43.280
  • BECAUSE YOU CAN COME TO TERMS
  • 00:36:44.190 --> 00:36:45.110
  • WITH IT.
  • 00:36:45.110 --> 00:36:47.010
  • I MEAN, I PROBABLY DO THIS...
  • 00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:48.130
  • FIVE TIMES A DAY...
  • 00:36:48.130 --> 00:36:48.290
  • - CHRISTINE: WOW.
  • 00:36:48.290 --> 00:36:49.180
  • - VICTORIA: ...IF A THOUGHT
  • 00:36:49.180 --> 00:36:50.100
  • COMES INTO MY MIND.
  • 00:36:50.100 --> 00:36:50.260
  • AND I THINK: THAT IS NOT OF
  • 00:36:50.260 --> 00:36:51.230
  • GOD!
  • 00:36:51.230 --> 00:36:52.230
  • THAT'S NOT ME.
  • 00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:53.220
  • - CHRISTINE: WOW.
  • 00:36:53.220 --> 00:36:54.240
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:55.250
  • I'M BETTER THAN THAT.
  • 00:36:55.250 --> 00:36:56.210
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:57.110
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:36:57.110 --> 00:36:58.060
  • - VICTORIA: AND I JUST SAY,
  • 00:36:58.060 --> 00:36:59.230
  • "GOD, FORGIVE ME."
  • 00:36:59.230 --> 00:37:00.100
  • AND I DON'T CARRY THAT WITH
  • 00:37:00.100 --> 00:37:01.000
  • ME...
  • 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:01.090
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:37:01.090 --> 00:37:01.230
  • - VICTORIA: ...BECAUSE I WANNA
  • 00:37:01.230 --> 00:37:02.150
  • OPEN MYSELF UP TO SAY: YOU KNOW
  • 00:37:02.150 --> 00:37:03.070
  • WHAT?
  • 00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:03.250
  • I'M FREE.
  • 00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:04.120
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:37:04.120 --> 00:37:05.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:37:05.050 --> 00:37:06.110
  • - VICTORIA: I AM FREE NOT TO
  • 00:37:06.110 --> 00:37:07.020
  • WALK IN COND--
  • 00:37:07.020 --> 00:37:07.240
  • I'M FREE TO LOVE.
  • 00:37:07.240 --> 00:37:08.200
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:37:08.200 --> 00:37:10.040
  • - VICTORIA: I'M NOT STUCK IN
  • 00:37:10.040 --> 00:37:10.250
  • THIS.
  • 00:37:10.250 --> 00:37:11.080
  • - VICTORIA: AND, THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:37:12.230 --> 00:37:13.140
  • WE HAVE TO GET GOOD AT DOIN'.
  • 00:37:13.140 --> 00:37:14.050
  • WE HAVE TO GET GOOD AT
  • 00:37:14.050 --> 00:37:15.110
  • RECOGNIZING WHO'S TALKIN' TO
  • 00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:16.140
  • US.
  • 00:37:16.140 --> 00:37:16.220
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON...YEAH.
  • 00:37:16.220 --> 00:37:18.020
  • - VICTORIA: AND WE HAVE TO GET
  • 00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:19.120
  • GOOD AT SAYING: HEY, I-- I--
  • 00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:20.020
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN I RECOGNIZE IT,
  • 00:37:20.020 --> 00:37:20.230
  • SAY: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:37:20.230 --> 00:37:21.090
  • I DON'T WANNA THINK THOSE
  • 00:37:21.090 --> 00:37:21.280
  • THOUGHTS.
  • 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.090
  • - LAURIE: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:37:22.090 --> 00:37:22.270
  • YEP.
  • 00:37:22.270 --> 00:37:23.050
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:37:23.050 --> 00:37:23.260
  • - VICTORIA: I DON'T WANT TO
  • 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:24.160
  • FORM A WEAPON AGAINST MY
  • 00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:25.070
  • HUSBAND...
  • 00:37:25.070 --> 00:37:25.240
  • ...MY CHILDREN, MY NEIGHBOR
  • 00:37:25.240 --> 00:37:28.080
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ENEMY
  • 00:37:28.080 --> 00:37:29.040
  • WANTS US TO DO.
  • 00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:29.280
  • HE WANTS US TO GIVE A GOOD
  • 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.000
  • EXCUSE WHY SOMETHING CAN'T
  • 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:33.190
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, YES.
  • 00:37:36.110 --> 00:37:37.040
  • - VICTORIA: OR WHY IT HAPPENED
  • 00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:37.260
  • THIS WAY.
  • 00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:38.070
  • AND, WHEN YOU JUST SAY: I'M
  • 00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:39.040
  • NOT GIVING IT TO THAT,
  • 00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:41.010
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:42.180
  • I'M ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:37:42.180 --> 00:37:44.010
  • I'M GONNA BE A QUICK REPENTER.
  • 00:37:44.010 --> 00:37:45.010
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:46.280
  • I BELIEVE THAT IT FREES YOU UP
  • 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.280
  • TO HEAR FROM GOD, TO MOVE
  • 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.030
  • FORWARD, AND TO NOT CARRY THAT
  • 00:37:49.090 --> 00:37:52.090
  • CON--
  • 00:37:52.090 --> 00:37:52.240
  • 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S
  • 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:54.130
  • NOTHING WORSE THAN THINKING:
  • 00:37:54.130 --> 00:37:55.030
  • AH, I THOUGHT THIS AND I
  • 00:37:55.030 --> 00:37:55.210
  • THOUGHT THAT.
  • 00:37:55.210 --> 00:37:56.180
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.020
  • - VICTORIA: AND IT JUST-- IT
  • 00:37:58.020 --> 00:37:59.020
  • JUST HEAPS, YOU KNOW, INJURY
  • 00:37:59.020 --> 00:38:00.090
  • UPON INSULT UPON, YOU KNOW...
  • 00:38:00.090 --> 00:38:01.090
  • AND SO, YOU JUST HAVE TO GET
  • 00:38:01.090 --> 00:38:02.100
  • FREE OF THAT AND BE QUICK.
  • 00:38:02.100 --> 00:38:03.180
  • AND IT'S AMAZING WHAT GOD'LL DO
  • 00:38:03.180 --> 00:38:05.100
  • - CHRISTINE: YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:38:07.070 --> 00:38:07.260
  • REMEMBER EVEN AT BIBLE COLLEGE,
  • 00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:09.000
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
  • 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.010
  • LEARNED -- AND IT STUCK WITH ME
  • 00:38:10.010 --> 00:38:10.230
  • -- I, UM-- YOU KNOW, THIS GREAT
  • 00:38:10.230 --> 00:38:13.200
  • THEOLOGIAN COMES IN, LIKE:
  • 00:38:13.200 --> 00:38:14.270
  • BE "UNOFFENDABLE."
  • 00:38:14.270 --> 00:38:16.290
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:38:16.290 --> 00:38:17.150
  • IF YOU HAVE THOSE TWO THINGS,
  • 00:38:19.210 --> 00:38:20.120
  • UM, YOU WILL ACTUALLY MOVE
  • 00:38:20.120 --> 00:38:21.130
  • FORWARD IN LIFE.
  • 00:38:22.130 --> 00:38:25.130
  • BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING-- AND
  • 00:38:25.130 --> 00:38:26.090
  • SOMETIMES WE CARRY OFFENSES.
  • 00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:27.000
  • AND WE-- WE BLOCK A LOT OF
  • 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.140
  • GOD'S BLESSING THROUGH THE
  • 00:38:29.140 --> 00:38:31.060
  • OFFENSES IN OUR HEART,
  • 00:38:31.060 --> 00:38:32.020
  • THROUGH THE BITTERNESS THAT'S
  • 00:38:32.020 --> 00:38:33.060
  • IN OUR HEART.
  • 00:38:33.060 --> 00:38:34.050
  • AND GOD WANTS TO POUR
  • 00:38:34.050 --> 00:38:35.020
  • UNEXPECTED FAVOR, UNEXPECTED
  • 00:38:35.020 --> 00:38:35.220
  • BLESSING, UNEXPECTED
  • 00:38:35.220 --> 00:38:36.190
  • BREAKTHROUGH.
  • 00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:37.210
  • GOD CAN STILL PART RED SEAS.
  • 00:38:37.210 --> 00:38:39.070
  • BUT, IF WE'RE GONNA HANG ONTO
  • 00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:40.240
  • THAT OFFENSE, IF WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:42.050
  • KEEP ACCOUNTS...
  • 00:38:42.050 --> 00:38:43.150
  • I MEAN, SOME OF US WOMEN ARE
  • 00:38:43.150 --> 00:38:44.230
  • UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:38:44.230 --> 00:38:46.030
  • WE COULD TURN TO OUR HUSBAND
  • 00:38:46.030 --> 00:38:47.090
  • AND REMEMBER SOMETHING FROM
  • 00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:48.170
  • SEVEN YEARS AGO -- WHAT HE WAS
  • 00:38:48.170 --> 00:38:49.290
  • WEARING, WHERE HE WAS STANDING,
  • 00:38:49.290 --> 00:38:51.010
  • WHAT TONE OF VOICE IT WAS.
  • 00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:52.270
  • AND WE REMIND-- AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:38:52.270 --> 00:38:54.240
  • NICK IS LIKE: "REALLY,
  • 00:38:54.240 --> 00:38:56.140
  • CHRISTINE?
  • 00:38:56.140 --> 00:38:57.050
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:38:57.050 --> 00:38:58.000
  • YOU NEED TO GET A BETTER
  • 00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:58.180
  • 'FORGETTERY.'
  • 00:38:58.180 --> 00:38:59.160
  • YOU NEED TO REALLY, REALLY
  • 00:38:59.160 --> 00:39:00.220
  • DEVELOP YOUR FORGETTERY AND
  • 00:39:00.220 --> 00:39:01.120
  • JUST"--
  • 00:39:01.120 --> 00:39:02.190
  • 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER
  • 00:39:02.190 --> 00:39:03.230
  • THAT THING HAPPENED.
  • 00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:04.220
  • I MEAN, MY HUSBAND HAS GOT
  • 00:39:04.220 --> 00:39:06.000
  • THIS AMAZING ABILITY TO QUICKLY
  • 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.040
  • FORGIVE, QUICKLY MOVE ON.
  • 00:39:07.240 --> 00:39:10.240
  • AND IT DOES LEAD TO THE FREEDOM
  • 00:39:10.240 --> 00:39:11.160
  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE JOY
  • 00:39:11.160 --> 00:39:12.070
  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:39:12.070 --> 00:39:13.120
  • IT PRODUCES THE FRUIT OF THE
  • 00:39:13.120 --> 00:39:14.250
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:39:14.250 --> 00:39:15.280
  • AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES,
  • 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.130
  • WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE FRUIT,
  • 00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:18.130
  • AND GOD'S GOING: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:39:18.130 --> 00:39:19.200
  • YOU CAN JUST PRODUCE IT.
  • 00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:21.080
  • IF YOU WOULD LET GO OF THIS, IF
  • 00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:22.060
  • YOU WOULD, ASK FOR FORGIVENESS
  • 00:39:22.060 --> 00:39:24.100
  • AND GIVE FORGIVENESS,
  • 00:39:24.100 --> 00:39:25.140
  • BE "UNOFFENDABLE,"
  • 00:39:25.140 --> 00:39:26.280
  • KEEP SHORT ACCOUNTS.
  • 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.040
  • GOD SAYS HE TAKES OUR SINS,
  • 00:39:28.040 --> 00:39:30.040
  • CASTS THEM AS FAR AS THE EAST
  • 00:39:30.040 --> 00:39:31.080
  • IS FROM THE WEST, AND REMEMBERS
  • 00:39:31.080 --> 00:39:32.000
  • THEM NO MORE.
  • 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.080
  • AND MAYBE WE COULD GET, A
  • 00:39:34.080 --> 00:39:35.140
  • LOT BETTER OFF IN LIFE IF WE
  • 00:39:35.140 --> 00:39:37.230
  • REMEMBERED SOME THINGS NO MORE,
  • 00:39:37.230 --> 00:39:39.130
  • IF WE ACTUALLY FORGET THEM.
  • 00:39:39.130 --> 00:39:40.220
  • - VICTORIA: I PRAYED FOR A
  • 00:39:40.220 --> 00:39:42.030
  • WOMAN.
  • 00:39:42.030 --> 00:39:43.270
  • AND SHE COMES UP AND SHE SAYS,
  • 00:39:43.270 --> 00:39:44.230
  • "I WANT YOU TO PRAY FOR MY--
  • 00:39:44.230 --> 00:39:45.180
  • MARRIAGE."
  • 00:39:45.180 --> 00:39:46.160
  • AND SHE SAID, "MY HUSBAND JUST
  • 00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:48.160
  • DOESN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT."
  • 00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:49.180
  • AND, SHE PULLS OUT A LIST...
  • 00:39:49.180 --> 00:39:50.210
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:39:50.210 --> 00:39:51.160
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, WOW!
  • 00:39:51.160 --> 00:39:52.040
  • REALLY?
  • 00:39:52.040 --> 00:39:53.060
  • - VICTORIA: ...OF ALL THE
  • 00:39:53.060 --> 00:39:54.010
  • THINGS HE'S DONE WRONG, YOU
  • 00:39:54.010 --> 00:39:54.210
  • KNOW?
  • 00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:55.010
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, WOW.
  • 00:39:55.010 --> 00:39:55.290
  • - VICTORIA: AND I'M LIKE,
  • 00:39:55.290 --> 00:39:56.180
  • "WELL, OKAY..."
  • 00:39:56.180 --> 00:39:57.020
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:39:57.020 --> 00:39:57.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:57.140 --> 00:39:58.010
  • AND IT WAS WRITTEN IN DIFFERENT
  • 00:39:58.010 --> 00:39:58.230
  • COLORS--
  • 00:39:58.230 --> 00:39:59.030
  • - LAURIE: "YOU CAN GO BURN
  • 00:39:59.030 --> 00:40:00.020
  • THAT."
  • 00:40:00.020 --> 00:40:01.030
  • - VICTORIA: --OF PEN AND
  • 00:40:01.030 --> 00:40:01.220
  • PENCIL.
  • 00:40:01.220 --> 00:40:02.100
  • AND I SAID, "WHY THE DIFFERENT
  • 00:40:02.100 --> 00:40:03.010
  • COLORS?"
  • 00:40:03.010 --> 00:40:03.190
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, MY GOSH.
  • 00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:04.160
  • - VICTORIA: SHE SAID, "WELL, I
  • 00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:05.080
  • MAY BE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND I
  • 00:40:05.080 --> 00:40:05.280
  • CAN'T FIND A PEN, SO I JUST
  • 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:06.250
  • PICK UP A PENCIL."
  • 00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:07.150
  • [CHRISTINE GASPS]
  • 00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:09.180
  • - LAURIE: OH, NO...
  • 00:40:09.180 --> 00:40:10.040
  • - VICTORIA: AND IT IS TRUE--
  • 00:40:10.040 --> 00:40:11.160
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S NEXT
  • 00:40:11.160 --> 00:40:12.070
  • LEVEL.
  • 00:40:12.070 --> 00:40:13.130
  • - VICTORIA: --PEOPLE -- THEY
  • 00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:14.040
  • MAKE A MENTAL LIST--
  • 00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:14.200
  • - CHRISTINE: WOW. THAT'S
  • 00:40:14.200 --> 00:40:15.090
  • EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:15.220
  • - VICTORIA: --MAYBE NOT A
  • 00:40:15.220 --> 00:40:16.110
  • PHYSICAL LIST, BUT A MENTAL
  • 00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:17.010
  • LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT SOMEONE
  • 00:40:17.010 --> 00:40:17.230
  • HAD DONE AGAINST THEM.
  • 00:40:17.230 --> 00:40:18.100
  • AND SO, THOSE ARE LISTS WE
  • 00:40:18.100 --> 00:40:20.030
  • NEED TO BEGIN TO MAKE--
  • 00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:22.180
  • TO LET GO OF THOSE LISTS
  • 00:40:22.180 --> 00:40:24.060
  • AND LET'S START MAKIN' NEW
  • 00:40:24.060 --> 00:40:25.180
  • LISTS...
  • 00:40:25.180 --> 00:40:27.150
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:30.120
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S POWERFUL.
  • 00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:31.030
  • - VICTORIA: ...YOU KNOW, OF
  • 00:40:31.030 --> 00:40:31.230
  • THE JOY, OF THE GOOD THINGS.
  • 00:40:31.230 --> 00:40:32.130
  • BECAUSE, LISTEN, IF GOD KEPT A
  • 00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:33.040
  • LIST ON US...
  • 00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:33.170
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, WOW.
  • 00:40:33.170 --> 00:40:34.040
  • EXACTLY.
  • 00:40:34.040 --> 00:40:34.160
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:35.090
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:40:35.090 --> 00:40:35.250
  • - VICTORIA: WE WOULD BE IN
  • 00:40:35.250 --> 00:40:36.200
  • REALLY BAD SHAPE.
  • 00:40:36.200 --> 00:40:37.070
  • - CHRISTINE: WE WOULD.
  • 00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:38.100
  • - LAURIE: CAN YOU IMAGINE?
  • 00:40:38.100 --> 00:40:39.000
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:39.170
  • SO...
  • 00:40:39.170 --> 00:40:40.050
  • - LAURIE: WELL, WE'RE ALL
  • 00:40:40.050 --> 00:40:40.240
  • LAUGHIN' AT THAT.
  • 00:40:40.240 --> 00:40:41.090
  • I'M SITTIN' HERE GIGGLIN', "OH,
  • 00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:42.100
  • YEAH, THAT'S FUNNY."
  • 00:40:42.100 --> 00:40:43.190
  • (LAUGHING) I THINK WE'RE ALL
  • 00:40:43.190 --> 00:40:44.090
  • GUILTY.
  • 00:40:44.090 --> 00:40:44.190
  • - CHRISTINE: IT'S EXACTLY
  • 00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:45.080
  • TRUE.
  • 00:40:45.080 --> 00:40:45.170
  • OH, YEAH.
  • 00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:45.280
  • - LAURIE: WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF
  • 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.200
  • THAT.
  • 00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:46.290
  • AND I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS BACK,
  • 00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:48.090
  • WE HAD SOMETHING JUST
  • 00:40:48.100 --> 00:40:51.100
  • DEVASTATING TO OUR FAMILY.
  • 00:40:51.100 --> 00:40:54.060
  • IT HAPPENED AND THEN IT WENT
  • 00:40:54.060 --> 00:40:57.030
  • FOR A GOOD MONTH OR TWO.
  • 00:40:57.060 --> 00:41:00.080
  • AND FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS,
  • 00:41:00.080 --> 00:41:03.010
  • I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN WE WENT
  • 00:41:03.010 --> 00:41:04.240
  • THROUGH THAT MONTH -- AND IT
  • 00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:06.140
  • WAS IN SEPTEMBER -- AND WHEN WE
  • 00:41:06.140 --> 00:41:07.140
  • WENT THROUGH THAT MONTH, THE
  • 00:41:07.140 --> 00:41:10.060
  • NEXT YEAR, MATT AND I COULD
  • 00:41:10.060 --> 00:41:11.080
  • TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
  • 00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:12.120
  • EVERY DAY.
  • 00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:13.160
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:41:13.160 --> 00:41:14.020
  • - LAURIE: "REMEMBER?
  • 00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:14.190
  • OKAY.
  • 00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:14.280
  • SO, THIS IS THE 12TH.
  • 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:15.150
  • DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED
  • 00:41:15.150 --> 00:41:16.060
  • TODAY?"
  • 00:41:16.060 --> 00:41:16.160
  • AND YOU GUYS BOTH HEARD IT.
  • 00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:17.220
  • I KNOW YOU DID.
  • 00:41:17.220 --> 00:41:18.190
  • AND THEN, THE NEXT YEAR, WE
  • 00:41:18.190 --> 00:41:20.030
  • PROBABLY TALKED ABOUT IT AGAIN.
  • 00:41:20.030 --> 00:41:22.060
  • AND, THEN THE NEXT YEAR, MAYBE
  • 00:41:22.060 --> 00:41:25.010
  • IT GOT A LITTLE LESS.
  • 00:41:25.010 --> 00:41:26.230
  • BUT THEN, IT FINALLY-- THE
  • 00:41:26.230 --> 00:41:29.190
  • WHOLE MONTH WENT BY A COUPLE
  • 00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:30.200
  • YEARS AGO AND I REMEMBER--
  • 00:41:30.200 --> 00:41:31.290
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:41:31.290 --> 00:41:33.290
  • - LAURIE: --WAKING UP IN
  • 00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:34.180
  • OCTOBER ONE DAY AND I WENT:
  • 00:41:34.180 --> 00:41:35.160
  • [SURPRISED GASP]
  • 00:41:35.160 --> 00:41:36.150
  • "SEPTEMBER WENT BY."
  • 00:41:36.150 --> 00:41:38.270
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:41:38.270 --> 00:41:39.210
  • - LAURIE: AND I DIDN'T THINK
  • 00:41:39.210 --> 00:41:42.100
  • OF ANYONE ONCE...
  • 00:41:42.100 --> 00:41:44.040
  • - CHRISTINE: ISN'T THAT
  • 00:41:44.040 --> 00:41:44.220
  • AWESOME?
  • 00:41:44.220 --> 00:41:45.020
  • - LAURIE: ...THROUGH THAT
  • 00:41:45.020 --> 00:41:45.210
  • TIME.
  • 00:41:45.210 --> 00:41:46.130
  • AND IT TOOK A LOT TO FORGIVE.
  • 00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:47.040
  • AND IT WAS LIKE EVERY DAY IT
  • 00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:48.000
  • WAS LIKE: "GOD, CREATE IN ME A
  • 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:48.210
  • CLEAN HEART, O GOD."
  • 00:41:48.210 --> 00:41:49.290
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:41:49.290 --> 00:41:50.240
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S ALL I COULD
  • 00:41:50.240 --> 00:41:51.170
  • SAY EVERY DAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T
  • 00:41:51.170 --> 00:41:52.150
  • WANT TO HOLD THINGS AGAINST--
  • 00:41:52.150 --> 00:41:54.190
  • AND IT WAS HARD, AND I LOVE
  • 00:41:54.190 --> 00:41:56.250
  • HARD.
  • 00:41:57.160 --> 00:42:00.180
  • [VOICE EMOTIONAL]
  • 00:42:00.180 --> 00:42:02.070
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:42:02.070 --> 00:42:03.190
  • - LAURIE: AND...AND SO, IT'S
  • 00:42:03.190 --> 00:42:05.040
  • HARD WHEN YOU'RE BETRAYED...
  • 00:42:05.040 --> 00:42:06.120
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:42:06.120 --> 00:42:07.110
  • - LAURIE: ...AND IT'S
  • 00:42:07.110 --> 00:42:07.280
  • UNEXPECTED BY THOSE ONES THAT
  • 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.150
  • YOU LOVE AND ARE CLOSE.
  • 00:42:09.150 --> 00:42:10.150
  • AND I WAS SO THANKFUL...
  • 00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:12.140
  • - CHRISTINE: WOW.
  • 00:42:12.140 --> 00:42:13.150
  • - LAURIE: ...BECAUSE GOD DOES
  • 00:42:13.150 --> 00:42:15.260
  • HEAL YOU--
  • 00:42:15.260 --> 00:42:16.110
  • - VICTORIA: IT LIFTED A WEIGHT
  • 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:17.060
  • OFF OF YOU, DIDN'T IT?
  • 00:42:17.060 --> 00:42:17.230
  • - LAURIE: IT DID!
  • 00:42:17.230 --> 00:42:18.250
  • AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW-- AND IT
  • 00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:19.240
  • IS YOUR SALVATION WHEN--
  • 00:42:19.240 --> 00:42:21.200
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, IT IS.
  • 00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:22.270
  • - LAURIE: --WHEN YOU FORGIVE
  • 00:42:22.270 --> 00:42:23.180
  • AND YOU LET GO.
  • 00:42:23.180 --> 00:42:24.100
  • IT WILL JUST DO MIRACULOUS
  • 00:42:24.100 --> 00:42:25.110
  • THINGS IN YOU.
  • 00:42:25.110 --> 00:42:26.140
  • AND THAT IS A MIRACLE.
  • 00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:27.270
  • - CHRISTINE: WELL, IT IS.
  • 00:42:27.270 --> 00:42:28.270
  • AND I THINK THE THING WE CAN
  • 00:42:28.270 --> 00:42:30.180
  • FORGET IN THE MIDST OF IT ALL
  • 00:42:30.180 --> 00:42:31.230
  • IS, YOU KNOW, SCRIPTURE SAYS
  • 00:42:31.230 --> 00:42:33.200
  • THAT WE DO NOT WAR AGAINST
  • 00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:35.070
  • FLESH AND BLOOD.
  • 00:42:35.070 --> 00:42:36.030
  • AND SO, WHAT HAPPENED WAS
  • 00:42:36.030 --> 00:42:37.100
  • YOU WON THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE
  • 00:42:37.100 --> 00:42:38.280
  • THAT YEAR,
  • 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.270
  • FINALLY, WHEN IT WAS LIKE:
  • 00:42:40.270 --> 00:42:41.210
  • I HAVEN'T THOUGHT--
  • 00:42:41.210 --> 00:42:42.070
  • AND I DO THAT FREQUENTLY.
  • 00:42:42.070 --> 00:42:42.260
  • I'M LIKE YOU.
  • 00:42:42.260 --> 00:42:43.170
  • I LIKE HARD, SO I GO THERE AND
  • 00:42:43.170 --> 00:42:45.260
  • I--
  • 00:42:45.260 --> 00:42:46.170
  • - LAURIE: WITH ALL THOSE
  • 00:42:46.170 --> 00:42:47.190
  • ANNIVERSARIES.
  • 00:42:47.190 --> 00:42:48.040
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:42:48.040 --> 00:42:48.200
  • - CHRISTINE: I'M LIKE--
  • 00:42:48.200 --> 00:42:49.150
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST--
  • 00:42:49.150 --> 00:42:50.170
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:51.030
  • - CHRISTINE: THIS SAME MIND
  • 00:42:51.030 --> 00:42:52.020
  • THAT MIGHT BE QUICK, IT CAN
  • 00:42:52.020 --> 00:42:53.080
  • REMEMBER A LOT OF THINGS, TOO.
  • 00:42:53.080 --> 00:42:54.000
  • SO, WHEN I-- AND EVEN JUST
  • 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.050
  • RECENTLY I SAID TO NICK,
  • 00:42:56.050 --> 00:42:57.090
  • "I JUST WENT A WEEK."
  • 00:42:57.090 --> 00:42:58.190
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM, MM-HMM.
  • 00:42:58.190 --> 00:43:00.080
  • - CHRISTINE: AND THEN,
  • 00:43:00.080 --> 00:43:01.280
  • SOMETHING HAPPENED.
  • 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:02.180
  • AND HERE'S THE POWER OF IT.
  • 00:43:02.180 --> 00:43:03.130
  • I WAS WATCHING TBN.
  • 00:43:03.130 --> 00:43:04.090
  • AND, YOU KNOW, A PERSON WAS ON
  • 00:43:04.090 --> 00:43:05.240
  • AND SOMETHING HAPPENED.
  • 00:43:05.240 --> 00:43:07.040
  • AND IT WAS A YEAR AGO.
  • 00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:09.000
  • AND GOD DOES THIS.
  • 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.090
  • 'CAUSE IT WAS MARCH, A YEAR
  • 00:43:10.090 --> 00:43:11.270
  • AGO.
  • 00:43:11.270 --> 00:43:13.090
  • SO NOW, I'M IN ISRAEL.
  • 00:43:13.090 --> 00:43:14.000
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:14.180
  • [LAURIE GIGGLES]
  • 00:43:14.180 --> 00:43:15.060
  • - CHRISTINE: AND SO, I WAS IN
  • 00:43:15.060 --> 00:43:15.270
  • ANOTHER PLACE.
  • 00:43:15.270 --> 00:43:17.020
  • AND, I WAS WATCHING SOMETHING.
  • 00:43:17.020 --> 00:43:18.070
  • AND THAT'S WHEN I SAW
  • 00:43:18.070 --> 00:43:18.240
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:19.250
  • AND, REALLY, IT WAS LIKE:
  • 00:43:19.250 --> 00:43:21.000
  • PWOAH!
  • 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:22.010
  • YOU JUST...TOLD EVERYONE WHAT I
  • 00:43:22.010 --> 00:43:23.240
  • TOLD YOU.
  • 00:43:23.240 --> 00:43:24.130
  • LIKE, IT WAS JUST A REAL,
  • 00:43:24.130 --> 00:43:25.110
  • LIKE-- BUT IN A REALLY--
  • 00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:26.180
  • IT SO SENT ME INTO A TAILSPIN.
  • 00:43:26.180 --> 00:43:28.140
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:43:28.140 --> 00:43:29.130
  • - CHRISTINE: A YEAR LATER OF
  • 00:43:29.130 --> 00:43:30.290
  • DOING THIS HARD WORK, OF GOING:
  • 00:43:30.290 --> 00:43:32.240
  • OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH
  • 00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:33.180
  • THIS--
  • 00:43:33.180 --> 00:43:35.210
  • I TALK ABOUT THIS CHAPTER, SO I
  • 00:43:35.210 --> 00:43:36.160
  • WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I CAN
  • 00:43:36.160 --> 00:43:38.230
  • TESTIFY -- IT'S REAL, OKAY?
  • 00:43:38.230 --> 00:43:39.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:39.280
  • IT'S REAL BECAUSE NOW I'M IN
  • 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.210
  • ISRAEL.
  • 00:43:40.210 --> 00:43:41.220
  • AND WE-- WE DIDN'T EVEN PLAN
  • 00:43:41.220 --> 00:43:42.120
  • FOR THIS ALL TO GO WHERE THIS
  • 00:43:42.120 --> 00:43:43.030
  • HAS GONE.
  • 00:43:43.030 --> 00:43:43.260
  • AND, A DIFFERENT THING COMES
  • 00:43:46.100 --> 00:43:47.000
  • ON, A DIFFERENT PROGRAM.
  • 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:47.190
  • AND...A DIFFERENT THING THAT I
  • 00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:50.080
  • SAID ABOUT A WHOLE DIFFERENT
  • 00:43:50.080 --> 00:43:51.150
  • THING -- THIS PERSON QUOTES
  • 00:43:51.150 --> 00:43:52.200
  • AGAIN.
  • 00:43:52.200 --> 00:43:53.040
  • EXCEPT THIS TIME, A YEAR LATER,
  • 00:43:53.040 --> 00:43:54.110
  • THIS IS HOW FREE I KNOW-- I
  • 00:43:54.110 --> 00:43:55.280
  • BURST OUT LAUGHING THIS TIME.
  • 00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.220
  • LIKE, IN THE THING OF THAT
  • 00:43:57.220 --> 00:43:58.250
  • OTHER THING SENT ME, LIKE, INTO
  • 00:43:58.250 --> 00:43:59.280
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:44:02.040 --> 00:44:02.200
  • - CHRISTINE: I BURST OUT
  • 00:44:02.200 --> 00:44:03.090
  • LAUGHING.
  • 00:44:03.090 --> 00:44:03.250
  • AND I LOOKED UP TO GOD AND I
  • 00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:05.110
  • GO, "I-- I'M HEAL-- THAT DIDN'T
  • 00:44:05.110 --> 00:44:07.040
  • TOUCH ONE PART OF ME," YOU
  • 00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:08.190
  • KNOW, WHERE-- WHERE IT WOULD
  • 00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:09.270
  • HAVE.
  • 00:44:09.270 --> 00:44:10.250
  • FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAYBE
  • 00:44:10.250 --> 00:44:12.040
  • HAVE BEEN ABUSED, OR, LIKE ME,
  • 00:44:12.040 --> 00:44:13.200
  • YOU WERE LEFT IN A HOSPITAL --
  • 00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:14.290
  • THERE WAS SO MUCH REJECTION IN
  • 00:44:14.290 --> 00:44:16.220
  • MY PAST, SO, FOR ME, MY
  • 00:44:16.220 --> 00:44:18.030
  • ACHILLES' HEEL IS REJECTION, OR
  • 00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:19.200
  • ABANDONMENT, OR A PERCEIVED
  • 00:44:19.200 --> 00:44:21.290
  • BETRAYAL THAT WOULD, FOR ME, GO
  • 00:44:21.290 --> 00:44:23.100
  • BACK TO MY MUM LEAVING ME IN A
  • 00:44:23.100 --> 00:44:25.080
  • HOSPITAL, NO NAME ON MY BIRTH
  • 00:44:25.080 --> 00:44:26.100
  • CERTIFICATE.
  • 00:44:26.100 --> 00:44:27.030
  • AND, IN A SENSE, THAT WAS A
  • 00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:29.240
  • TYPE OF WHAT HAPPENED--
  • 00:44:29.240 --> 00:44:31.140
  • - VICTORIA: SURE.
  • 00:44:31.140 --> 00:44:33.210
  • - CHRISTINE: --IN THAT
  • 00:44:33.210 --> 00:44:35.050
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:44:35.050 --> 00:44:35.210
  • SO, THAT WOUND THAT WOULD HAVE
  • 00:44:35.210 --> 00:44:36.120
  • BEEN RIGHT BACK TO WHEN I WAS
  • 00:44:36.120 --> 00:44:37.170
  • LEFT IN THAT HOSPITAL, YOU
  • 00:44:37.170 --> 00:44:39.030
  • KNOW, JUST, UH, BORN, IT WAS
  • 00:44:39.030 --> 00:44:40.160
  • LIKE GOD WANTED TO DO A DEEPER
  • 00:44:40.190 --> 00:44:43.190
  • LEVEL OF HEALING SO I COULD
  • 00:44:43.190 --> 00:44:44.120
  • HELP, ULTIMATELY, A WHOLE
  • 00:44:44.120 --> 00:44:45.240
  • LOT MORE PEOPLE.
  • 00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:46.120
  • SOME THINGS YOU WANNA BE
  • 00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:47.160
  • DELIVERED FROM.
  • 00:44:47.160 --> 00:44:48.200
  • AND WE ALL DO.
  • 00:44:48.200 --> 00:44:49.190
  • HA!
  • 00:44:49.190 --> 00:44:50.010
  • EVEN I DO.
  • 00:44:50.010 --> 00:44:50.270
  • BUT GOD SAYS: NO, SWEETHEART,
  • 00:44:50.270 --> 00:44:52.110
  • I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE
  • 00:44:52.110 --> 00:44:53.020
  • VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH
  • 00:44:53.020 --> 00:44:54.130
  • AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND ME IN IT.
  • 00:44:54.130 --> 00:44:56.080
  • YOU'RE GONNA COME OUT THE OTHER
  • 00:44:56.080 --> 00:44:57.030
  • SIDE, CHRISTINE, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:44:57.030 --> 00:44:57.230
  • GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP MILLIONS
  • 00:44:57.230 --> 00:44:58.180
  • MORE PEOPLE.
  • 00:44:58.180 --> 00:44:59.080
  • BECAUSE WHAT WAS A PLACE-- A
  • 00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:01.170
  • DEEP WOUND IN ME THAT I DIDN'T
  • 00:45:01.170 --> 00:45:03.130
  • EVEN KNOW WAS THERE, BUT THE
  • 00:45:03.130 --> 00:45:04.210
  • ENEMY COULD HAVE USED IT--
  • 00:45:04.210 --> 00:45:05.230
  • 'CAUSE, ULTIMATELY, THIS PERSON
  • 00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:07.040
  • WASN'T MY ENEMY; IT'S THE ENEMY
  • 00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:07.260
  • COMING THROUGH THEM--
  • 00:45:07.260 --> 00:45:10.180
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S LIKE THE
  • 00:45:10.180 --> 00:45:11.070
  • SCAB THAT'S BEING PEELED OFF.
  • 00:45:11.070 --> 00:45:12.120
  • AND THE HEALING NEVER HAPPENS.
  • 00:45:12.120 --> 00:45:13.090
  • - CHRISTINE: NEVER.
  • 00:45:13.090 --> 00:45:13.250
  • YEAH.
  • 00:45:13.250 --> 00:45:14.040
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE
  • 00:45:14.040 --> 00:45:15.020
  • DONE?
  • 00:45:15.020 --> 00:45:16.130
  • AND THIS IS JUST-- THIS IS
  • 00:45:16.130 --> 00:45:17.270
  • HELPFUL FOR ME AND MAYBE IT'LL
  • 00:45:17.270 --> 00:45:19.050
  • BE HELPFUL FOR YOU.
  • 00:45:19.050 --> 00:45:19.230
  • WHEN YOU FEEL THE OFFENSE, OR
  • 00:45:19.230 --> 00:45:21.110
  • YOU FEEL THE EXCUSE, THAT'S ONE
  • 00:45:21.110 --> 00:45:23.040
  • WAY TO DETECT.
  • 00:45:23.040 --> 00:45:24.190
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:45:24.190 --> 00:45:25.170
  • - VICTORIA: WHEN YOU START
  • 00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:26.280
  • MAKIN' EXCUSES, YOU KNOW, WHY
  • 00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:28.250
  • THIS PERSON AND WHY YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:29.230
  • HERE AND WHY YOU'RE--
  • 00:45:29.230 --> 00:45:30.160
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:45:30.160 --> 00:45:31.090
  • - VICTORIA: 'CAUSE IT, REALLY,
  • 00:45:31.090 --> 00:45:32.060
  • YOU KNOW, ALWAYS ULTIMATELY
  • 00:45:32.060 --> 00:45:32.270
  • COMES BACK TO US.
  • 00:45:32.270 --> 00:45:33.180
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, IT DOES.
  • 00:45:33.180 --> 00:45:34.120
  • - VICTORIA: IT COMES BACK TO
  • 00:45:34.120 --> 00:45:35.150
  • YOUR ACHILLES' HEEL.
  • 00:45:35.150 --> 00:45:36.010
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, IT DOES.
  • 00:45:36.010 --> 00:45:36.210
  • YEAH.
  • 00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:37.050
  • - VICTORIA: IT COMES BACK TO
  • 00:45:37.050 --> 00:45:37.260
  • THAT WOUNDED PLACE.
  • 00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:38.120
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:45:38.120 --> 00:45:38.280
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE
  • 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:39.220
  • LEARNED TO DO IS, LIKE, I'VE
  • 00:45:39.220 --> 00:45:40.120
  • LEARNED TO JUST TAKE-- AND I
  • 00:45:40.120 --> 00:45:41.230
  • HAVE TO IMAGINE IT THROUGH MY--
  • 00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:42.230
  • THROUGH MY-- MY EYES OF FAITH
  • 00:45:42.230 --> 00:45:44.040
  • OR MY IMAGINATION THAT THOSE
  • 00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:46.210
  • THINGS THAT ARE HURTFUL, THOSE
  • 00:45:47.010 --> 00:45:50.010
  • THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT
  • 00:45:50.010 --> 00:45:51.200
  • FORGIVING PEOPLE, I-- I JUST
  • 00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:52.100
  • IMAGINE IT LIKE A -- I'VE HAD
  • 00:45:52.100 --> 00:45:53.260
  • TO, ACTUALLY -- A BOUQUET OF
  • 00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:55.020
  • HELIUM BALLOONS.
  • 00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:58.060
  • AND I LITERALLY...I PUT THAT
  • 00:45:58.060 --> 00:45:58.260
  • HURT, THAT OFFENSE...
  • 00:45:58.260 --> 00:46:01.240
  • - CHRISTINE: WOW.
  • 00:46:01.240 --> 00:46:02.120
  • - VICTORIA: ...THOSE THINGS
  • 00:46:02.120 --> 00:46:03.040
  • THAT ARE BOTHERING ME...
  • 00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:04.130
  • AND, LITERALLY, I JUST IMAGINE
  • 00:46:04.130 --> 00:46:05.040
  • THEM, THAT I'M PUTTING THEM IN
  • 00:46:05.040 --> 00:46:07.190
  • THAT BALLOON.
  • 00:46:07.190 --> 00:46:08.020
  • AND I LITERALLY JUST HOLD MY
  • 00:46:08.020 --> 00:46:08.220
  • HAND OUT AND I JUST SAY: "GOD,
  • 00:46:08.220 --> 00:46:09.130
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:46:09.130 --> 00:46:10.170
  • I'M GIVING THIS TO YOU."
  • 00:46:10.170 --> 00:46:11.080
  • AND I JUST RELEASE IT TO HIM.
  • 00:46:11.080 --> 00:46:12.230
  • AND, LITERALLY, I HAVE RELEASED
  • 00:46:12.230 --> 00:46:14.150
  • A WHOLE BOUQUETFUL
  • 00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:16.200
  • OF BALLOONS TO HIM BEFORE
  • 00:46:16.200 --> 00:46:18.040
  • BECAUSE IT'S A LIFTING.
  • 00:46:18.040 --> 00:46:20.020
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S POWERFUL.
  • 00:46:20.020 --> 00:46:20.250
  • - VICTORIA: AND YOU TALKED
  • 00:46:20.250 --> 00:46:21.270
  • ABOUT IT EARLIER WHEN YOU
  • 00:46:21.270 --> 00:46:22.160
  • REALIZE YOU WHEN A DAY...
  • 00:46:22.160 --> 00:46:23.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH...
  • 00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:25.260
  • - VICTORIA: ...WITHOUT KEEPING
  • 00:46:25.260 --> 00:46:26.180
  • AN ACCOUNT.
  • 00:46:26.180 --> 00:46:27.000
  • YOU WENT A WEEK WITHOUT
  • 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.030
  • KEEPING THAT ACCOUNT.
  • 00:46:28.030 --> 00:46:29.080
  • IT'S LIKE A WEIGHT LIFTS OFF OF
  • 00:46:29.080 --> 00:46:30.070
  • YOU.
  • 00:46:30.070 --> 00:46:31.000
  • - LAURIE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:31.160
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:46:31.160 --> 00:46:33.010
  • - VICTORIA: SO, EVERY DAY, IF
  • 00:46:33.010 --> 00:46:33.270
  • WE COULD JUST TAKE INVENTORY OF
  • 00:46:33.270 --> 00:46:34.280
  • OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR EXCUSES
  • 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:35.210
  • AND JUST SAY: GOD, YOU KNOW
  • 00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:36.260
  • WHAT?
  • 00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:38.110
  • I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS,
  • 00:46:38.110 --> 00:46:39.120
  • BUT YOU CAN.
  • 00:46:39.120 --> 00:46:39.270
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:46:39.270 --> 00:46:40.260
  • - VICTORIA: SO, I'M JUST GONNA
  • 00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:41.250
  • GIVE THIS TO YOU AND MAYBE
  • 00:46:41.250 --> 00:46:42.290
  • IT'LL HELP YOU TO IMAGINE A--
  • 00:46:42.290 --> 00:46:44.060
  • YOU PUT IT IN YOUR OWN HELIUM
  • 00:46:44.060 --> 00:46:45.250
  • BALLOON, AND YOU JUST HOLD IT
  • 00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:47.170
  • OUT, AND JUST LET IT GO TO GOD,
  • 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:49.150
  • AND JUST WATCH IT DRIFT UP TO
  • 00:46:49.150 --> 00:46:50.060
  • HIM.
  • 00:46:50.060 --> 00:46:51.060
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:46:51.060 --> 00:46:52.080
  • HE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE HURTS
  • 00:46:52.080 --> 00:46:53.180
  • IN YOUR LIFE BETTER THAN YOU
  • 00:46:53.180 --> 00:46:55.120
  • CAN TAKE CARE OF THE HURTS IN
  • 00:46:55.120 --> 00:46:56.060
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:46:56.060 --> 00:46:58.170
  • HE WANTS YOU TO MOVE FORWARD,
  • 00:46:58.170 --> 00:46:59.080
  • DOESN'T WANT YOU TO GET STUCK.
  • 00:46:59.080 --> 00:47:00.030
  • AND, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:47:00.030 --> 00:47:00.250
  • TALKIN' ABOUT TODAY.
  • 00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:02.110
  • - CHRISTINE: VERY MUCH SO,
  • 00:47:02.110 --> 00:47:03.010
  • YEAH.
  • 00:47:03.010 --> 00:47:03.100
  • - VICTORIA: NOT GETTING STUCK.
  • 00:47:03.100 --> 00:47:04.020
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:04.260
  • - VICTORIA: NOT-- NOT TAKING
  • 00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:05.270
  • ON OFFENSE.
  • 00:47:05.270 --> 00:47:06.090
  • NOT ALLOWING THE PAST TO
  • 00:47:06.090 --> 00:47:07.130
  • DICTATE YOUR FUTURE, TO DEFINE
  • 00:47:07.130 --> 00:47:09.210
  • YOU.
  • 00:47:09.210 --> 00:47:10.060
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:47:10.060 --> 00:47:11.110
  • 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY
  • 00:47:11.110 --> 00:47:13.010
  • UNEXPECTED BLESSINGS, AND, UM,
  • 00:47:13.010 --> 00:47:14.080
  • OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR FUTURE.
  • 00:47:14.080 --> 00:47:16.010
  • AND I THINK-- I LOVE HOW YOU
  • 00:47:16.010 --> 00:47:17.110
  • STARTED.
  • 00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:19.090
  • IT'S UNEXPECTED TO US, BUT NOT
  • 00:47:19.090 --> 00:47:20.160
  • TO GOD.
  • 00:47:20.160 --> 00:47:21.280
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:22.130
  • AND, IT'S NOT THAT HE JUST
  • 00:47:22.130 --> 00:47:23.260
  • SUDDENLY FELL OFF THE THRONE
  • 00:47:23.260 --> 00:47:25.080
  • AND WENT, "PETER! DID YOU KNOW
  • 00:47:25.080 --> 00:47:26.070
  • THAT THAT WAS GONNA"--
  • 00:47:26.070 --> 00:47:27.200
  • IT'S NOT THAT--
  • 00:47:27.200 --> 00:47:28.100
  • AND YET, SOMETIMES WE ACT LIKE
  • 00:47:28.100 --> 00:47:29.140
  • THAT.
  • 00:47:29.140 --> 00:47:29.270
  • AND, UH, HE DOESN'T SAY THERE
  • 00:47:29.270 --> 00:47:31.000
  • WON'T BE TRIALS OR
  • 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.120
  • TRIBULATIONS.
  • 00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:34.200
  • HE SAYS: TRIALS WILL COME.
  • 00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:35.090
  • BUT BE OF GOOD CHEER.
  • 00:47:35.090 --> 00:47:36.000
  • I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD.
  • 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.130
  • AND SO, IT'S LEARNING TO WALK
  • 00:47:37.130 --> 00:47:38.230
  • VICTORIOUSLY THROUGH IT.
  • 00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:40.170
  • AND I THINK THAT IS THE, UM...
  • 00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:42.160
  • THE GREATEST CHALLENGE.
  • 00:47:42.160 --> 00:47:44.060
  • A LOT OF TIME, PEOPLE THINK WE
  • 00:47:44.060 --> 00:47:46.040
  • GET SAVED AND THEN THERE IS
  • 00:47:46.040 --> 00:47:46.280
  • NEVER A PROBLEM AGAIN.
  • 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.010
  • AND SO, THEN, WHEN A CHALLENGE
  • 00:47:48.010 --> 00:47:50.090
  • COMES, A FINANCIAL SITUATION,
  • 00:47:50.090 --> 00:47:51.150
  • A SICKNESS, A RELATIONAL, WE
  • 00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:52.260
  • THINK: GOD HAS LEFT ME.
  • 00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:54.130
  • AND GOD'S LIKE: I NEVER SAID
  • 00:47:54.130 --> 00:47:55.090
  • YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A
  • 00:47:55.090 --> 00:47:56.240
  • CHALLENGE, BUT I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:47:56.240 --> 00:47:57.290
  • FIND ME IN THE MIDST OF IT.
  • 00:47:57.290 --> 00:47:58.190
  • BECAUSE I'M THERE WITH YOU, I'M
  • 00:47:58.190 --> 00:47:59.240
  • GONNA GIVE YOU A WAY THROUGH
  • 00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:00.240
  • THIS.
  • 00:48:01.130 --> 00:48:04.130
  • UH, AND IF YOU WALK THROUGH IT
  • 00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:05.140
  • AND COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE,
  • 00:48:05.140 --> 00:48:06.220
  • YOU ARE GOING TO BE STUNNED AT
  • 00:48:06.220 --> 00:48:07.290
  • THE UNEXPECTED BLESSING THAT'S
  • 00:48:07.290 --> 00:48:08.200
  • ON THE OTHER SIDE.
  • 00:48:08.200 --> 00:48:09.230
  • AND SO AM I.
  • 00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:11.090
  • FROM MY GREATEST PAIN AND ALSO
  • 00:48:11.090 --> 00:48:12.000
  • FROM MY GREATEST SUCCESS.
  • 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:12.290
  • I LOVE-- IN THE BOOK, I REALLY
  • 00:48:12.290 --> 00:48:14.250
  • TOOK A COUPLE OF CHAPTERS TO
  • 00:48:14.250 --> 00:48:16.230
  • TALK ABOUT THE UNEXPECTED
  • 00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:19.090
  • BLESSINGS THAT GOD'S GIVEN ME
  • 00:48:19.090 --> 00:48:20.060
  • IN MY LIFE THAT THE KID THAT
  • 00:48:20.060 --> 00:48:21.180
  • WAS BORN IN, YOU KNOW, THE BACK
  • 00:48:21.180 --> 00:48:22.240
  • OF SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA IN THE
  • 00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:25.110
  • POOREST ZIP CODE, I WOULD
  • 00:48:25.110 --> 00:48:26.110
  • NEVER--
  • 00:48:26.110 --> 00:48:27.080
  • I'M SITTING HERE IN-- WITH YOU,
  • 00:48:27.080 --> 00:48:29.080
  • IN JERUSALEM, AND, SPEAKING TO
  • 00:48:29.080 --> 00:48:31.110
  • THE WORLD.
  • 00:48:31.110 --> 00:48:32.220
  • WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT A KID
  • 00:48:32.220 --> 00:48:34.100
  • WITH A-- "UNNAMED" ON HER BIRTH
  • 00:48:34.100 --> 00:48:36.170
  • CERTIFICATE...
  • 00:48:36.170 --> 00:48:37.280
  • AND I THINK SOMETIMES, SOME OF
  • 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.260
  • US, WE DON'T EXPECT ENOUGH GOOD
  • 00:48:39.260 --> 00:48:41.130
  • THINGS FROM GOD.
  • 00:48:41.130 --> 00:48:42.260
  • AND IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO
  • 00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:44.000
  • YOUR THEOLOGY.
  • 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:44.190
  • PSALM 119 SAYS GOD IS GOOD...
  • 00:48:44.190 --> 00:48:46.070
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:48:46.070 --> 00:48:47.190
  • - CHRISTINE: ...AND GOD DOES
  • 00:48:47.190 --> 00:48:48.100
  • GOOD.
  • 00:48:48.100 --> 00:48:48.190
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:48:48.190 --> 00:48:50.180
  • - CHRISTINE: SO, EVEN IN MY
  • 00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:51.200
  • WORST SITUATIONS AND SOME OF MY
  • 00:48:51.200 --> 00:48:52.120
  • DEEPEST PAIN THAT I WALKED
  • 00:48:52.120 --> 00:48:53.240
  • THROUGH RECENTLY-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:48:53.240 --> 00:48:54.140
  • THROUGH WRITING, 'CAUSE, YOU
  • 00:48:54.140 --> 00:48:55.250
  • KNOW, WE NEVER WRITE BOOKS THAT
  • 00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:56.210
  • GOD DOESN'T EXPECT US TO LIVE
  • 00:48:56.210 --> 00:48:57.220
  • IT BEFORE WE WRITE.
  • 00:48:57.220 --> 00:48:58.200
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT...RIGHT.
  • 00:48:58.200 --> 00:49:00.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:00.110 --> 00:49:00.290
  • - CHRISTINE: I PROMISE YOU.
  • 00:49:00.290 --> 00:49:02.020
  • UM, BUT, IT WAS-- I WOULD SAY
  • 00:49:02.020 --> 00:49:02.230
  • OUT LOUD, SOMETIMES WITH TEARS
  • 00:49:02.230 --> 00:49:03.260
  • STREAMING DOWN MY FACE, FEELING
  • 00:49:03.260 --> 00:49:05.040
  • THE PAIN IN MY HEART, BUT
  • 00:49:05.040 --> 00:49:06.190
  • GOING, "GOD, YOU ARE GOOD AND
  • 00:49:06.190 --> 00:49:08.020
  • YOU DO GOOD, SO THIS ISN'T
  • 00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:11.270
  • FROM-- YOU DIDN'T DO THIS
  • 00:49:11.270 --> 00:49:13.190
  • BECAUSE YOU ARE GOOD AND YOU DO
  • 00:49:13.190 --> 00:49:15.050
  • GOOD."
  • 00:49:15.050 --> 00:49:16.130
  • SO, YOU'VE GOTTA SOMETIMES TELL
  • 00:49:16.130 --> 00:49:17.100
  • YOURSELF, SOMEONE'S STRUGGLING
  • 00:49:17.100 --> 00:49:18.010
  • AND HAS HAD A CANCER DIAGNOSIS.
  • 00:49:18.010 --> 00:49:19.030
  • I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE ENEMY,
  • 00:49:19.030 --> 00:49:20.120
  • YOU KNOW-- THE ENEMY IS THE
  • 00:49:20.120 --> 00:49:21.180
  • ORCHESTRATOR OF EVIL AND
  • 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.000
  • SICKNESS AND PAIN -- NOT GOD.
  • 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:26.060
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:49:26.060 --> 00:49:26.230
  • - CHRISTINE: GOD IS GOOD AND
  • 00:49:26.230 --> 00:49:28.000
  • GOD DOES GOOD.
  • 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:29.010
  • NOW, GOD WILL USE, UH--
  • 00:49:29.010 --> 00:49:30.040
  • SOMETIMES WE DON'T UNDERSTAND
  • 00:49:30.040 --> 00:49:32.130
  • HOW OR WHY, BUT HE WILL USE
  • 00:49:32.130 --> 00:49:34.030
  • THOSE NEGATIVE SITUATIONS, IF
  • 00:49:34.030 --> 00:49:35.010
  • YOU TRUST HIS GOODNESS THAT
  • 00:49:35.010 --> 00:49:36.170
  • THROUGH IT ALL HE WILL TURN
  • 00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:39.050
  • THIS THING-- ROMANS 8:28.
  • 00:49:39.050 --> 00:49:41.010
  • HE WILL TURN ALL THINGS AND
  • 00:49:41.010 --> 00:49:42.150
  • WORK ALL THINGS, EVEN THOSE BAD
  • 00:49:42.150 --> 00:49:43.180
  • THINGS--
  • 00:49:43.180 --> 00:49:44.150
  • HE DOESN'T SAY THEY'RE GOOD.
  • 00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:45.260
  • HE SAYS THOSE THINGS ARE--
  • 00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:47.050
  • THOSE THINGS ARE BAD.
  • 00:49:47.050 --> 00:49:48.030
  • BUT HE WILL WORK ALL THINGS
  • 00:49:48.030 --> 00:49:49.180
  • TOGETHER FOR YOUR GOOD AND FOR
  • 00:49:49.180 --> 00:49:50.090
  • HIS GLORY.
  • 00:49:50.090 --> 00:49:51.220
  • - VICTORIA: SO GOOD.
  • 00:49:51.220 --> 00:49:52.090
  • - CHRISTINE: SO, YOU'VE GOTTA
  • 00:49:52.090 --> 00:49:53.140
  • TRUST HIM IN THE MIDST OF IT.
  • 00:49:53.140 --> 00:49:54.270
  • SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK:
  • 00:49:54.270 --> 00:49:55.260
  • "CHRISTINE, ARE YOU JUST A
  • 00:49:55.260 --> 00:49:57.050
  • HAPPY-CLAPPY, SHALLOW SORT OF
  • 00:49:57.050 --> 00:49:58.130
  • CHRISTIAN?
  • 00:49:58.130 --> 00:49:58.260
  • AND YOU'RE SAYING GOD JUST
  • 00:49:58.260 --> 00:49:59.210
  • WANTS TO SPRINKLE DUST-- YOU
  • 00:49:59.210 --> 00:50:00.270
  • KNOW, BLESSINGS ON US ALL."
  • 00:50:00.270 --> 00:50:02.050
  • I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, FROM THE
  • 00:50:02.050 --> 00:50:03.010
  • BIBLE, PSALM 119 SAYS GOD IS
  • 00:50:03.010 --> 00:50:04.080
  • GOOD, GOD DOES GOOD.
  • 00:50:06.090 --> 00:50:09.090
  • AND EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFT
  • 00:50:09.090 --> 00:50:10.010
  • -- YOU KNOW WHERE IT COMES?
  • 00:50:10.010 --> 00:50:11.110
  • IT COMES FROM ABOVE, FROM GOD.
  • 00:50:11.110 --> 00:50:12.190
  • THERE IS AN ENEMY.
  • 00:50:12.190 --> 00:50:14.140
  • AND HE WANTS TO STEAL, KILL,
  • 00:50:14.140 --> 00:50:16.000
  • AND DESTROY.
  • 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:16.290
  • THAT'S ALL HE DOES.
  • 00:50:16.290 --> 00:50:17.150
  • JOHN 10:10.
  • 00:50:17.150 --> 00:50:18.050
  • JESUS SAID THAT THE ENEMY --
  • 00:50:18.050 --> 00:50:19.180
  • HE COMES TO STEAL, KILL, AND
  • 00:50:19.180 --> 00:50:20.190
  • DESTROY.
  • 00:50:20.190 --> 00:50:21.080
  • "BUT I HAVE COME...."
  • 00:50:21.080 --> 00:50:22.020
  • AND YOU-- DON'T FORGET THIS
  • 00:50:22.020 --> 00:50:23.100
  • PART.
  • 00:50:23.100 --> 00:50:23.250
  • THAT'S THE ENEMY.
  • 00:50:23.250 --> 00:50:24.170
  • SOMETIMES WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON
  • 00:50:24.170 --> 00:50:25.260
  • THAT STUFF, THE BAD STUFF, THE
  • 00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:27.120
  • EVIL STUFF, THE SICKNESS, THE
  • 00:50:27.120 --> 00:50:29.050
  • DISEASE, THE CRIME, THE
  • 00:50:29.050 --> 00:50:30.180
  • VIOLENCE, THE PAIN, THE
  • 00:50:30.180 --> 00:50:32.000
  • ECONOMIC CHALLENGES, AND WE
  • 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:32.260
  • THINK THAT'S GOD.
  • 00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:34.120
  • BUT THAT'S THE ENEMY WHO COMES
  • 00:50:34.120 --> 00:50:35.030
  • TO STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY.
  • 00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:37.140
  • AND JESUS SAYS, "BUT I HAVE
  • 00:50:37.140 --> 00:50:38.180
  • COME..."
  • 00:50:38.180 --> 00:50:39.190
  • AND HE TELLS US WHY HE CAME.
  • 00:50:39.190 --> 00:50:40.240
  • "...THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE LIFE..."
  • 00:50:40.240 --> 00:50:42.040
  • AND NOT JUST A NORMAL KIND OF
  • 00:50:42.040 --> 00:50:43.140
  • LIFE.
  • 00:50:43.140 --> 00:50:44.010
  • THIS IS THE UNEXPECTED LIFE I'M
  • 00:50:44.010 --> 00:50:45.010
  • TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:50:45.010 --> 00:50:46.030
  • THIS IS A FAITH-FILLED BOOK
  • 00:50:46.030 --> 00:50:47.060
  • THAT SAYS EVEN IN THE MIDST OF
  • 00:50:47.060 --> 00:50:48.170
  • ADVERSITY YOU CAN HAVE THE
  • 00:50:48.170 --> 00:50:49.190
  • ABUNDANT-- THAT WORD IN THE
  • 00:50:49.190 --> 00:50:51.190
  • GREEK IS "ZOE."
  • 00:50:51.190 --> 00:50:52.250
  • THAT ZOE LIFE
  • 00:50:52.250 --> 00:50:54.160
  • THE ABUNDANT LIFE THAT JESUS
  • 00:50:54.160 --> 00:50:56.000
  • CAME TO GIVE YOU.
  • 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.040
  • SO, WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS
  • 00:50:57.040 --> 00:50:59.010
  • NOT STAY IN A VICTIM MENTALITY.
  • 00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:01.050
  • IN THE WORLD, THERE IS HASHTAGS
  • 00:51:01.050 --> 00:51:02.100
  • OUT THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF
  • 00:51:02.120 --> 00:51:05.120
  • ANGER, THERE IS A LOT OF
  • 00:51:05.120 --> 00:51:06.050
  • THE SPIRIT OF THAT IS THE
  • 00:51:09.270 --> 00:51:10.200
  • ENEMY WANTING TO KEEP
  • 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:11.260
  • YOU STUCK, KEEP YOU TRAPPED,
  • 00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:12.160
  • KEEP YOU IN A PIT, KEEP YOU
  • 00:51:12.160 --> 00:51:13.120
  • THINKING THAT THERE IS NO WAY
  • 00:51:13.120 --> 00:51:15.030
  • OUT, THAT THIS IS YOUR LOT IN
  • 00:51:15.030 --> 00:51:16.180
  • LIFE.
  • 00:51:16.180 --> 00:51:17.080
  • AND YET, THE SCRIPTURE SAYS HE
  • 00:51:17.080 --> 00:51:18.290
  • MAKES OUT LOT TO FALL IN
  • 00:51:18.290 --> 00:51:20.090
  • PLEASANT PLACES, THAT HE IS
  • 00:51:20.090 --> 00:51:21.210
  • GOOD, THAT HE DOES GOOD, THAT
  • 00:51:21.210 --> 00:51:23.210
  • HIS WILL FOR US IS THAT WE HAVE
  • 00:51:23.210 --> 00:51:26.080
  • NOT JUST A NORMAL LIFE, BUT AN
  • 00:51:26.080 --> 00:51:26.290
  • AND SO, I PRAY THAT THROUGH THE
  • 00:51:29.200 --> 00:51:31.140
  • STORIES, SOMETIMES OF PAIN AND
  • 00:51:31.140 --> 00:51:32.210
  • SUFFERING, AND-- THAT YOU WOULD
  • 00:51:32.210 --> 00:51:33.230
  • KNOW WE'RE ALL REAL.
  • 00:51:33.230 --> 00:51:35.250
  • WE DON'T LIVE IN SOME DIFFERENT
  • 00:51:35.250 --> 00:51:36.200
  • PLAN--
  • 00:51:36.200 --> 00:51:37.080
  • WE LIVE HERE IN A VERY FALLEN
  • 00:51:37.080 --> 00:51:38.090
  • WORLD, JUST LIKE EVERY ONE OF
  • 00:51:38.090 --> 00:51:39.220
  • YOU.
  • 00:51:39.220 --> 00:51:41.050
  • WE ALL ARE IN RELATIONSHIPS,
  • 00:51:41.050 --> 00:51:42.080
  • WE'RE ALL TRYING TO EXPAND THE
  • 00:51:42.080 --> 00:51:43.170
  • KINGDOM OF GOD, SO THERE IS A
  • 00:51:43.170 --> 00:51:44.200
  • VERY REAL ENEMY WE COME UP
  • 00:51:44.200 --> 00:51:46.080
  • ACROSS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
  • 00:51:46.080 --> 00:51:48.000
  • BUT WE WANT YOU TO KNOW WE
  • 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.280
  • FIGHT HIM FROM VICTORY, NOT FOR
  • 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.240
  • VICTORY--
  • 00:51:51.240 --> 00:51:52.110
  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
  • 00:51:52.110 --> 00:51:52.290
  • - CHRISTINE: --BECAUSE JESUS
  • 00:51:52.290 --> 00:51:53.230
  • ALREADY HAS THE VICTORY.
  • 00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:54.110
  • - VICTORIA: BECAUSE HE PUTS
  • 00:51:54.110 --> 00:51:55.010
  • VICTORY IN US.
  • 00:51:55.010 --> 00:51:55.140
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON, COME ON.
  • 00:51:55.140 --> 00:51:56.060
  • YES, HE DOES.
  • 00:51:56.060 --> 00:51:56.210
  • - VICTORIA: AND THAT'S--
  • 00:51:56.210 --> 00:51:57.150
  • THAT'S THE KEY IS...WHEN YOU
  • 00:51:57.150 --> 00:51:58.050
  • FIGHT IN THE GOOD FIGHT OF
  • 00:51:58.050 --> 00:51:58.240
  • FAITH...
  • 00:51:58.240 --> 00:51:59.040
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:51:59.040 --> 00:51:59.200
  • - VICTORIA: ...THE GOOD OF
  • 00:51:59.200 --> 00:52:00.120
  • GOD...
  • 00:52:00.120 --> 00:52:00.210
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:52:00.210 --> 00:52:01.070
  • - VICTORIA: ...BECOMES THE
  • 00:52:01.070 --> 00:52:01.270
  • GOOD OF YOU.
  • 00:52:01.270 --> 00:52:02.090
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, IT DOES.
  • 00:52:02.090 --> 00:52:02.290
  • YES, IT DOES.
  • 00:52:02.290 --> 00:52:03.120
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S CALLED THE
  • 00:52:03.120 --> 00:52:04.020
  • FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT.
  • 00:52:04.020 --> 00:52:04.190
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON.
  • 00:52:04.190 --> 00:52:05.060
  • - VICTORIA: AND THAT'S HOW WE
  • 00:52:05.060 --> 00:52:05.270
  • DEVELOP.
  • 00:52:05.270 --> 00:52:06.070
  • - CHRISTINE: HOW DO WE
  • 00:52:06.070 --> 00:52:06.250
  • OVERCOME EVIL?
  • 00:52:06.250 --> 00:52:07.080
  • - VICTORIA: THAT'S HOW WE CAN
  • 00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:07.290
  • OVERCOME.
  • 00:52:07.290 --> 00:52:08.100
  • - CHRISTINE: WITH GOOD.
  • 00:52:08.100 --> 00:52:08.280
  • THAT'S HOW -- YES!
  • 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:09.130
  • - VICTORIA: BECAUSE IT'S NOT--
  • 00:52:09.130 --> 00:52:10.050
  • IT'S NOT-- IT'S NOT SOMETHING
  • 00:52:10.050 --> 00:52:10.260
  • THAT YOU JUST WAKE UP.
  • 00:52:10.260 --> 00:52:11.130
  • - CHRISTINE: NO.
  • 00:52:11.130 --> 00:52:11.280
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S PART OF THE
  • 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.190
  • PROCESS.
  • 00:52:12.190 --> 00:52:12.290
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:52:12.290 --> 00:52:13.170
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S PART OF YOUR
  • 00:52:13.170 --> 00:52:14.080
  • GROWTH.
  • 00:52:14.080 --> 00:52:14.180
  • - CHRISTINE: TOTALLY.
  • 00:52:14.180 --> 00:52:15.050
  • - VICTORIA: AND, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:52:15.050 --> 00:52:15.260
  • THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THIS: I
  • 00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:17.230
  • HAVE A LEMON TREE THAT I
  • 00:52:17.230 --> 00:52:19.250
  • PLANTED, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:52:19.250 --> 00:52:21.030
  • LEMONS ON IT.
  • 00:52:21.030 --> 00:52:21.170
  • - CHRISTINE: WOW.
  • 00:52:21.170 --> 00:52:22.220
  • - VICTORIA: BUT IT DIDN'T--
  • 00:52:22.220 --> 00:52:23.120
  • DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A LEMON
  • 00:52:23.120 --> 00:52:24.050
  • TREE.
  • 00:52:24.050 --> 00:52:24.230
  • - CHRISTINE: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:52:24.230 --> 00:52:25.160
  • YES.
  • 00:52:25.160 --> 00:52:25.240
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:52:25.240 --> 00:52:26.180
  • BUT PUT IN THE RIGHT SOIL...
  • 00:52:26.180 --> 00:52:27.100
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:52:27.100 --> 00:52:29.060
  • - VICTORIA: ...PUT IN THE
  • 00:52:29.060 --> 00:52:29.260
  • RIGHT ATMOSPHERE, GOING TO THE
  • 00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:30.180
  • CHURCH, WATCHING TBN -- PUT IN
  • 00:52:30.180 --> 00:52:31.090
  • THE RIGHT ATMOSPHERE.
  • 00:52:31.090 --> 00:52:32.100
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:52:32.100 --> 00:52:33.190
  • - VICTORIA: THAT TREE BEGAN TO
  • 00:52:33.190 --> 00:52:34.210
  • PRODUCE LEMONS.
  • 00:52:34.210 --> 00:52:35.290
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:52:35.290 --> 00:52:36.290
  • - VICTORIA: IT BEGAN TO
  • 00:52:36.290 --> 00:52:38.070
  • PRODUCE FRUIT.
  • 00:52:38.070 --> 00:52:38.250
  • AND, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO
  • 00:52:38.250 --> 00:52:39.170
  • -- YOU BEGIN TO PRODUCE FRUIT:
  • 00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:40.160
  • LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE,
  • 00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.280
  • LONGSUFFERING.
  • 00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.100
  • ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE FOR
  • 00:52:46.100 --> 00:52:47.140
  • YOUR GOOD--
  • 00:52:47.140 --> 00:52:49.290
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:52:49.290 --> 00:52:50.260
  • - VICTORIA: --SO THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:52:50.260 --> 00:52:51.170
  • OVERCOME.
  • 00:52:51.170 --> 00:52:52.100
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:52:52.100 --> 00:52:53.050
  • - VICTORIA: AND SO, THAT'S THE
  • 00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:53.270
  • KEY.
  • 00:52:53.290 --> 00:52:56.290
  • IT'S NOT WILL.
  • 00:52:56.290 --> 00:52:57.120
  • - CHRISTINE: NO.
  • 00:52:57.120 --> 00:52:58.040
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S NOT OUR
  • 00:52:58.040 --> 00:52:59.000
  • OWN...GUSTO AND STRENGTH.
  • 00:52:59.000 --> 00:52:59.190
  • IT'S THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT
  • 00:52:59.190 --> 00:53:00.220
  • THAT GOD RELEASES IN US.
  • 00:53:00.220 --> 00:53:01.130
  • AND THAT'S THE GOODNESS OF
  • 00:53:01.130 --> 00:53:02.110
  • GOD...
  • 00:53:02.110 --> 00:53:03.110
  • - CHRISTINE: OH, YES, IT IS.
  • 00:53:03.110 --> 00:53:04.080
  • - VICTORIA: ...THAT HE DIDN'T
  • 00:53:04.080 --> 00:53:05.070
  • LEAVE US HERE...
  • 00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:05.250
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON.
  • 00:53:05.250 --> 00:53:07.240
  • - VICTORIA: ...TO DEAL WITH
  • 00:53:07.240 --> 00:53:08.160
  • THIS ON OUR OWN.
  • 00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:09.030
  • HE SAYS: I'VE ALREADY PUT
  • 00:53:09.030 --> 00:53:09.220
  • INSIDE YOU--
  • 00:53:09.220 --> 00:53:10.040
  • - CHRISTINE: HE DOES!
  • 00:53:10.040 --> 00:53:10.210
  • - VICTORIA: --EVERYTHING YOU
  • 00:53:10.210 --> 00:53:11.120
  • NEED.
  • 00:53:11.120 --> 00:53:11.210
  • YOU JUST GOTTA DEVELOP IT.
  • 00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:12.100
  • YOU GOTTA GET IT OUT OF YOU.
  • 00:53:12.100 --> 00:53:13.000
  • AND IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
  • 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:14.060
  • - CHRISTINE: OF COURSE, IT IS.
  • 00:53:14.060 --> 00:53:14.280
  • - VICTORIA: AND YOU CAN SEE IN
  • 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:15.290
  • YOUR LIFE...
  • 00:53:15.290 --> 00:53:16.160
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:53:16.160 --> 00:53:17.020
  • - VICTORIA: YOU COULDN'T-- YOU
  • 00:53:17.020 --> 00:53:18.040
  • CAN'T FACE THOSE BIG CHALLENGES
  • 00:53:18.040 --> 00:53:19.010
  • UNTIL YOU GET THROUGH THE SMALL
  • 00:53:19.010 --> 00:53:20.010
  • ONES.
  • 00:53:20.010 --> 00:53:21.000
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:21.160
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:53:21.160 --> 00:53:22.070
  • - CHRISTINE: AND IT IS.
  • 00:53:22.070 --> 00:53:23.070
  • AND, WE'VE GOT A WORLD FULL
  • 00:53:23.070 --> 00:53:24.270
  • OF EVIL AND PEOPLE ARE DO
  • 00:53:24.270 --> 00:53:27.230
  • DESPONDENT.
  • 00:53:27.230 --> 00:53:28.190
  • BUT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE
  • 00:53:28.190 --> 00:53:29.080
  • OVERCOME EVIL WITH--
  • 00:53:29.080 --> 00:53:31.010
  • - LAURIE: GOOD.
  • 00:53:31.010 --> 00:53:31.170
  • - CHRISTINE: --GOOD.
  • 00:53:31.170 --> 00:53:32.090
  • THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, SO
  • 00:53:32.090 --> 00:53:33.000
  • THAT'S WHY THAT--
  • 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:33.270
  • AND IT'S GOD'S GOODNESS THAT
  • 00:53:33.270 --> 00:53:34.170
  • GROWS ON THE INSIDE OF US.
  • 00:53:34.170 --> 00:53:35.060
  • - VICTORIA: HE SAID, "BE OF
  • 00:53:35.060 --> 00:53:36.180
  • GOOD CHEER."
  • 00:53:36.180 --> 00:53:37.000
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON.
  • 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:37.170
  • - VICTORIA: "I'VE OVERCOME
  • 00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:38.070
  • THE"--
  • 00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:38.160
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:39.040
  • - VICTORIA: WHAT IS "BE OF
  • 00:53:39.040 --> 00:53:39.240
  • GOOD CHEER"?
  • 00:53:39.240 --> 00:53:40.070
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:53:40.070 --> 00:53:40.280
  • CHEER IS LIKE...IT'S SOMETHING
  • 00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:41.280
  • THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
  • 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.010
  • WE HAVE TO DECIDE TO MAKE THAT
  • 00:53:43.010 --> 00:53:45.160
  • CHOICE TO SAY: I'M EITHER GOING
  • 00:53:45.160 --> 00:53:46.230
  • TO GO-- I'M NOT GONNA GET DOWN,
  • 00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:47.170
  • DEPRESSED.
  • 00:53:47.170 --> 00:53:48.260
  • I'M GONNA GET STUCK OR I'M
  • 00:53:48.260 --> 00:53:50.220
  • GONNA LAUGH IN THE FACE OF
  • 00:53:50.220 --> 00:53:51.220
  • THIS.
  • 00:53:51.220 --> 00:53:52.180
  • CHRIST YES, YES.
  • 00:53:52.180 --> 00:53:53.020
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:53:53.020 --> 00:53:53.230
  • BIBLE SAYS REJOICE IN THE LORD.
  • 00:53:53.230 --> 00:53:54.240
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:55.110
  • - VICTORIA: AND, AGAIN, I SAY
  • 00:53:55.110 --> 00:53:56.020
  • "REJOICE."
  • 00:53:56.020 --> 00:53:56.160
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:53:56.160 --> 00:53:57.050
  • - VICTORIA: THAT WORLD
  • 00:53:57.050 --> 00:53:58.030
  • "REJOICE" JUST MEANS...TO
  • 00:53:58.030 --> 00:53:58.220
  • BRIGHTEN.
  • 00:53:58.220 --> 00:53:59.250
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:00.150
  • YES.
  • 00:54:00.150 --> 00:54:00.230
  • - LAURIE: RE-JOY YOURSELVES.
  • 00:54:00.230 --> 00:54:01.210
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:54:01.210 --> 00:54:02.080
  • TOTALLY.
  • 00:54:02.080 --> 00:54:02.220
  • - VICTORIA: TO-- TO BRIGHTEN.
  • 00:54:02.220 --> 00:54:03.130
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:54:03.130 --> 00:54:03.270
  • - VICTORIA: AND IT'S ALMOST AS
  • 00:54:03.270 --> 00:54:04.190
  • IF GOD SAYS: I'VE GOT THE LIGHT
  • 00:54:04.190 --> 00:54:05.110
  • IN YOU; YOU'VE JUST GOTTA LEARN
  • 00:54:05.110 --> 00:54:08.040
  • TO FLICK IT ON.
  • 00:54:08.040 --> 00:54:09.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:54:09.050 --> 00:54:09.210
  • - CHRISTINE: AW, YEAH.
  • 00:54:09.210 --> 00:54:10.090
  • THAT'S IT.
  • 00:54:10.090 --> 00:54:10.200
  • - VICTORIA: AND YOU'VE GOTTA
  • 00:54:10.200 --> 00:54:11.110
  • FLICK IT ON BY FAITH.
  • 00:54:11.110 --> 00:54:11.280
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:13.210
  • - VICTORIA: AND THEN, GOD WILL
  • 00:54:13.210 --> 00:54:14.130
  • HELP YOU.
  • 00:54:14.130 --> 00:54:14.240
  • BUT YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE A MOVE...
  • 00:54:14.240 --> 00:54:16.130
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, YOU DO.
  • 00:54:16.130 --> 00:54:17.170
  • - VICTORIA: ...AND THEN GOD'LL
  • 00:54:17.170 --> 00:54:18.090
  • MAKE A MOVE.
  • 00:54:18.090 --> 00:54:18.220
  • - CHRISTINE: YEP.
  • 00:54:18.220 --> 00:54:19.140
  • - VICTORIA: AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:54:19.140 --> 00:54:20.040
  • BEAUTY IS GOD DOESN'T WANNA DO
  • 00:54:20.040 --> 00:54:20.250
  • WHAT WE CAN DO--
  • 00:54:20.250 --> 00:54:21.130
  • - CHRISTINE: NO WAY.
  • 00:54:21.130 --> 00:54:22.090
  • - VICTORIA: --FOR OURSELVES.
  • 00:54:22.090 --> 00:54:23.000
  • WE ARE JOINT HEIRS WITH JESUS
  • 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:23.210
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:54:23.210 --> 00:54:24.180
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH. COME ON.
  • 00:54:24.180 --> 00:54:25.080
  • - VICTORIA: IT'S US TOGETHER.
  • 00:54:25.080 --> 00:54:26.250
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, IT IS.
  • 00:54:26.250 --> 00:54:27.140
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:54:27.140 --> 00:54:28.180
  • AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY.
  • 00:54:28.180 --> 00:54:29.050
  • I-I THINK IT'S EMPOWERING TO
  • 00:54:29.050 --> 00:54:30.010
  • KNOW GOD IS HELPING ME.
  • 00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:31.160
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:54:31.160 --> 00:54:32.260
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:54:32.260 --> 00:54:33.150
  • - CHRISTINE: YES.
  • 00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:34.000
  • TOTALLY.
  • 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.110
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:54:34.110 --> 00:54:35.100
  • HE'S HELPING ME, HE'S
  • 00:54:35.100 --> 00:54:35.270
  • DEVELOPING ME, HE'S GROWING ME.
  • 00:54:35.270 --> 00:54:37.020
  • - CHRISTINE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:54:37.020 --> 00:54:38.050
  • - VICTORIA: AND I THINK THAT'S
  • 00:54:38.050 --> 00:54:38.290
  • THE EXCITING PART OF BEING A
  • 00:54:38.290 --> 00:54:39.190
  • BELIEVER...
  • 00:54:39.190 --> 00:54:40.020
  • - CHRISTINE: SO DO I.
  • 00:54:40.020 --> 00:54:40.190
  • - LAURIE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:54:40.190 --> 00:54:41.060
  • - VICTORIA: ...IS TO BE ABLE
  • 00:54:41.060 --> 00:54:41.270
  • TO SEE THAT FRUIT.
  • 00:54:41.270 --> 00:54:42.120
  • AND SO, LIKE YOU SAY IN
  • 00:54:42.120 --> 00:54:43.130
  • YOUR BOOK, THOSE UNEXPECTED
  • 00:54:43.130 --> 00:54:44.230
  • THINGS -- YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:46.100
  • THEY'RE NOT UNEXPECTED TO GOD.
  • 00:54:46.100 --> 00:54:47.230
  • - CHRISTINE: NO, THEY'RE NOT.
  • 00:54:47.230 --> 00:54:48.140
  • - VICTORIA: HE'S RIGHT THERE
  • 00:54:48.140 --> 00:54:49.050
  • TO HELP US, TO DEVELOP US, AND
  • 00:54:49.050 --> 00:54:49.260
  • TO GROW US.
  • 00:54:49.260 --> 00:54:51.010
  • AND, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL
  • 00:54:51.010 --> 00:54:52.140
  • BETTER TOGETHER.
  • 00:54:52.140 --> 00:54:53.170
  • NOT ONLY AS WOMEN...
  • 00:54:53.170 --> 00:54:54.170
  • [JOYFUL LAUGHTER]
  • 00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:55.200
  • ...BUT AS...AS BELIEVERS.
  • 00:54:55.200 --> 00:54:57.080
  • - CHRISTINE: AMEN.
  • 00:54:57.080 --> 00:54:58.200
  • - VICTORIA: YOU SAID IT.
  • 00:54:58.200 --> 00:54:59.090
  • YOU SAID IT AT THE BEGINNING.
  • 00:54:59.090 --> 00:55:00.020
  • WE ALL HAVE A PART TO PLAY.
  • 00:55:00.020 --> 00:55:00.220
  • - CHRISTINE: YES, WE DO.
  • 00:55:00.220 --> 00:55:01.110
  • - VICTORIA: WE'RE HERE TO
  • 00:55:01.110 --> 00:55:02.090
  • ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER, WE'RE
  • 00:55:02.090 --> 00:55:02.290
  • HERE TO BLESS EACH OTHER, WE'RE
  • 00:55:02.290 --> 00:55:04.090
  • HERE TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER
  • 00:55:04.090 --> 00:55:06.050
  • AND-- AND TO-- AND TO BE, YOU
  • 00:55:06.050 --> 00:55:07.070
  • KNOW, WHAT GOD'S CALLED US TO
  • 00:55:07.070 --> 00:55:09.100
  • BE -- TO RUN OUR OWN RACE.
  • 00:55:09.100 --> 00:55:09.290
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:55:09.290 --> 00:55:10.140
  • YEAH, YOU-- YOU KNOW-- AND I
  • 00:55:10.140 --> 00:55:12.000
  • KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF YOU
  • 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.230
  • OUT THERE THAT SOMETIMES IT'S
  • 00:55:13.230 --> 00:55:16.060
  • HARD TO PRAY FOR YOURSELF.
  • 00:55:16.060 --> 00:55:17.050
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:55:17.050 --> 00:55:19.280
  • - LAURIE: AND SOMETIMES IT'S
  • 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.190
  • HARD TO ENCOURAGE YOURSELF IN
  • 00:55:20.190 --> 00:55:21.110
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:21.250
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:55:21.250 --> 00:55:22.270
  • DO.
  • 00:55:22.270 --> 00:55:23.100
  • SOMETIMES--
  • 00:55:23.100 --> 00:55:23.270
  • - CHRISTINE: YEAH.
  • 00:55:23.270 --> 00:55:24.130
  • - LAURIE: --YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:25.050
  • OTHER ENCOURAGEMENT.
  • 00:55:25.050 --> 00:55:25.250
  • - CHRISTINE: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:55:25.250 --> 00:55:26.130
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:55:26.130 --> 00:55:26.230
  • - LAURIE: YOU JUST HAVE TO
  • 00:55:26.230 --> 00:55:27.130
  • ENCOURAGE YOURSELF.
  • 00:55:27.130 --> 00:55:27.290
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:55:27.290 --> 00:55:28.100
  • AND YOU DON'T JUST SIT THERE
  • 00:55:28.100 --> 00:55:29.150
  • AND JUST QUOTE THE WORD OVER
  • 00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:30.200
  • AND OVER TO MAKE IT-- TO MAKE
  • 00:55:30.200 --> 00:55:32.150
  • IT-- TO MAKE IT RIGHT OR TO
  • 00:55:32.150 --> 00:55:34.260
  • MAKE IT HAPPEN.
  • 00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:36.010
  • IT'S YOU QUOTE THE WORD OF GOD
  • 00:55:36.010 --> 00:55:37.190
  • OVER AND OVER SO THAT I START
  • 00:55:37.190 --> 00:55:38.280
  • ACTUALLY BELIEVING THAT...
  • 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.140
  • - CHRISTINE: COME ON.
  • 00:55:40.140 --> 00:55:41.090
  • YES.
  • 00:55:41.090 --> 00:55:42.030
  • - LAURIE: ...YOU KNOW, THAT I
  • 00:55:42.030 --> 00:55:42.260
  • AM THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN
  • 00:55:42.260 --> 00:55:43.180
  • CHRIST, THAT I AM AN OVERCOMER.
  • 00:55:43.180 --> 00:55:45.190
  • I AM THE BELOVED OF THE LORD.
  • 00:55:45.190 --> 00:55:47.230
  • AND SO, A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE
  • 00:55:47.230 --> 00:55:49.030
  • JUST WANNA BE PRAYED FOR.
  • 00:55:49.030 --> 00:55:50.160
  • [PIANO MUSIC]
  • 00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:52.090
  • AND, CHRIS, I THINK YOU'VE JUST
  • 00:55:52.090 --> 00:55:53.050
  • GOT IT TODAY.
  • 00:55:53.050 --> 00:55:53.240
  • AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:55:53.240 --> 00:55:55.220
  • HER BOOK "UNEXPECTED."
  • 00:55:55.220 --> 00:55:58.220
  • "LEAVE FEAR BEHIND, MOVE
  • 00:55:58.220 --> 00:55:59.270
  • FORWARD IN FAITH, EMBRACE THE
  • 00:55:59.270 --> 00:56:02.140
  • ADVENTURE."
  • 00:56:02.140 --> 00:56:02.260
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:56:02.260 --> 00:56:03.090
  • CHRIS, JUST PRAY FOR THE
  • 00:56:03.090 --> 00:56:03.270
  • PEOPLE--
  • 00:56:03.270 --> 00:56:04.080
  • - CHRISTINE: I WILL.
  • 00:56:04.080 --> 00:56:04.250
  • - LAURIE: --TODAY, WOULD YOU?
  • 00:56:04.250 --> 00:56:05.170
  • - CHRISTINE: AND SO...FATHER,
  • 00:56:05.170 --> 00:56:07.280
  • I THANK YOU FOR EVERY PERSON ON
  • 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:08.290
  • THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
  • 00:56:08.290 --> 00:56:09.260
  • AND, UM...LORD, YOU KNOW EVERY
  • 00:56:09.260 --> 00:56:11.060
  • HEART, YOU KNOW EVERY PERSON,
  • 00:56:11.060 --> 00:56:12.090
  • YOU KNOW EVERY FEAR THAT
  • 00:56:12.090 --> 00:56:13.250
  • EVERYONE IS CARRYING.
  • 00:56:13.250 --> 00:56:15.210
  • AND IT MEANS SOMETHING TO YOU.
  • 00:56:15.210 --> 00:56:17.040
  • LORD, YOU SEE THEM, YOU KNOW
  • 00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:18.140
  • THEM, AND YOU CARE.
  • 00:56:18.140 --> 00:56:20.070
  • BUT I THANK YOU THAT YOU'VE NOT
  • 00:56:20.070 --> 00:56:21.160
  • GIVEN US A SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT
  • 00:56:21.160 --> 00:56:22.070
  • OF LOVE, AND OF POWER, AND A
  • 00:56:22.070 --> 00:56:23.120
  • SOUND MIND.
  • 00:56:23.120 --> 00:56:26.040
  • AND, RIGHT NOW, IN THE NAME OF
  • 00:56:26.040 --> 00:56:26.250
  • JESUS CHRIST, LORD, I REBUKE
  • 00:56:26.250 --> 00:56:29.030
  • THAT SPIRIT OF FEAR, IN JESUS'
  • 00:56:29.030 --> 00:56:30.090
  • NAME.
  • 00:56:30.090 --> 00:56:31.140
  • AND I SPEAK THE LOVE OF GOD,
  • 00:56:31.140 --> 00:56:33.130
  • THE POWER OF GOD, AND A SOUND
  • 00:56:33.130 --> 00:56:34.280
  • MIND WHERE PEOPLE ARE FEELING
  • 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.010
  • TORMENTED AND CONFUSED, AND
  • 00:56:36.010 --> 00:56:38.130
  • WHERE THE ACCUSER OF THE
  • 00:56:38.130 --> 00:56:39.150
  • BRETHREN HAS TOLD THEM THAT
  • 00:56:39.150 --> 00:56:40.090
  • THEY'RE NO GOOD, THAT THEY
  • 00:56:40.090 --> 00:56:41.200
  • WON'T MAKE IT, THAT THERE IS NO
  • 00:56:41.200 --> 00:56:43.030
  • HOPE.
  • 00:56:43.030 --> 00:56:43.190
  • EVEN THAT PERSON, FATHER, RIGHT
  • 00:56:43.190 --> 00:56:44.190
  • NOW, THAT HAS BEEN
  • 00:56:44.190 --> 00:56:46.010
  • CONTEMPLATING COMMITTING
  • 00:56:46.010 --> 00:56:47.110
  • SUICIDE -- FATHER, I COME
  • 00:56:47.110 --> 00:56:48.160
  • AGAINST THAT SPIRIT OF DEATH,
  • 00:56:48.160 --> 00:56:49.130
  • AND NEGATIVITY, AND FEAR, AND
  • 00:56:49.130 --> 00:56:51.250
  • DOUBT, RIGHT NOW, IN THE NAME
  • 00:56:51.250 --> 00:56:52.270
  • OF JESUS.
  • 00:56:52.270 --> 00:56:53.200
  • AND I SPEAK LIFE, AND I SPEAK
  • 00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:54.270
  • HOPE, AND I SPEAK VICTORY.
  • 00:56:54.270 --> 00:56:56.250
  • AND I SAY TO YOU: YOU SHALL
  • 00:56:56.250 --> 00:56:58.100
  • LIVE AND NOT DIE.
  • 00:56:58.100 --> 00:56:59.110
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:56:59.110 --> 00:56:59.280
  • - CHRISTINE: AND YOU SHALL
  • 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.010
  • STEP INTO THE FULLNESS OF THE
  • 00:57:01.010 --> 00:57:02.060
  • PROMISE OF ALL THAT JESUS
  • 00:57:02.060 --> 00:57:03.020
  • CHRIST HAS FOR YOU.
  • 00:57:03.020 --> 00:57:04.210
  • AND, GOD, I THANK YOU THAT WHAT
  • 00:57:04.210 --> 00:57:06.010
  • IS UNEXPECTED FOR US IS NEVER
  • 00:57:06.010 --> 00:57:07.140
  • UNEXPECTED FOR YOU AND THAT,
  • 00:57:07.140 --> 00:57:09.200
  • GOD, YOU ARE GOOD, YOU DO GOOD,
  • 00:57:09.200 --> 00:57:11.040
  • AND YOU WORK ALL THINGS
  • 00:57:11.040 --> 00:57:13.140
  • TOGETHER FOR OUR GOOD AND FOR
  • 00:57:13.140 --> 00:57:15.110
  • YOUR GLORY.
  • 00:57:15.110 --> 00:57:16.270
  • SO, GIVE YOUR PEOPLE STRENGTH
  • 00:57:16.270 --> 00:57:17.270
  • AND COURAGE TODAY.
  • 00:57:17.270 --> 00:57:18.260
  • AND, FATHER, LET A SPIRIT OF
  • 00:57:18.260 --> 00:57:20.130
  • HOPE, AND FAITH, AND
  • 00:57:20.130 --> 00:57:21.100
  • EXPECTATION RISE UP IN YOUR
  • 00:57:21.100 --> 00:57:23.090
  • PEOPLE TODAY THAT WE WOULD
  • 00:57:23.090 --> 00:57:25.190
  • EXPECT THAT OUR GOD IS GOOD AND
  • 00:57:25.190 --> 00:57:27.020
  • DOES GOOD.
  • 00:57:27.020 --> 00:57:28.160
  • AND, FATHER, I PRAY THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:57:28.160 --> 00:57:30.110
  • WILL BEGIN TO EXPECT OPEN
  • 00:57:30.110 --> 00:57:31.140
  • DOORS, EXPECT BLESSINGS FROM
  • 00:57:31.140 --> 00:57:33.130
  • YOU, EXPECT OPPORTUNITIES FROM
  • 00:57:33.130 --> 00:57:34.240
  • YOU, EXPECT PROVISION FROM YOU,
  • 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:36.130
  • FATHER, EXPECT RESTORATION,
  • 00:57:36.130 --> 00:57:38.030
  • RECONCILIATION, FORGIVENESS,
  • 00:57:38.030 --> 00:57:40.050
  • AND HEALING, AND DELIVERANCE,
  • 00:57:40.050 --> 00:57:42.280
  • IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
  • 00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.160
  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
  • 00:57:44.160 --> 00:57:45.120
  • - CHRISTINE: THERE ARE THINGS
  • 00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:46.030
  • WE CAN EXPECT FROM OUR GOOD
  • 00:57:46.030 --> 00:57:46.230
  • FATHER.
  • 00:57:46.230 --> 00:57:47.260
  • AND SO, FATHER, I THANK YOU
  • 00:57:47.260 --> 00:57:49.090
  • THAT EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT
  • 00:57:49.090 --> 00:57:50.260
  • GIFT COMES FROM YOU.
  • 00:57:50.260 --> 00:57:51.230
  • AND I PRAY THAT OVER WHATEVER
  • 00:57:51.230 --> 00:57:52.200
  • ANYONE NEEDS.
  • 00:57:52.200 --> 00:57:54.200
  • IF IT'S HEALING, FATHER, I PRAY
  • 00:57:54.200 --> 00:57:55.280
  • FOR HEALING, FOR DELIVERANCE,
  • 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.080
  • FOR FORGIVENESS, FOR
  • 00:57:57.080 --> 00:57:58.240
  • RESTORATION, FOR PROVISION, FOR
  • 00:57:58.240 --> 00:58:00.070
  • BLESSING, FOR OPEN DOORS OF
  • 00:58:00.070 --> 00:58:02.110
  • OPPORTUNITY, LORD.
  • 00:58:02.110 --> 00:58:04.010
  • IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY.
  • 00:58:04.010 --> 00:58:06.050
  • AMEN.
  • 00:58:06.050 --> 00:58:07.070
  • AMEN.
  • 00:58:07.070 --> 00:58:08.170
  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
  • 00:58:08.170 --> 00:58:09.020
  • HA!
  • 00:58:09.020 --> 00:58:09.160