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Praise the Lord

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April 1, 2016
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Samuel Rodriguez hosts Pastor Jason Noble, Joyce & John Smith, DeVon Franklin, Pastor Steve Wilburn and music by Javen

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  • to coast, and around the world,
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  • it's time to praise the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • let every nation rejoice!
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  • - announcer: Welcome to
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  • the number-one Christian network
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  • in all the world.
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  • Joining us for "Praise the Lord"
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  • in Tustin, California, are lead
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  • pastor, First Assembly Church
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  • in Saint Peters, Missouri,
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  • Pastor Jason Noble;
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  • mother and son with
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  • an extraordinary testimony,
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  • Joyce and John Smith;
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  • President and CEO of
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  • Franklin Entertainment,
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  • and author, DeVon Franklin;
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  • senior pastor of Core Church
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  • in Los Angeles, California,
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  • Pastor Steve Wilburn;
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  • ministering in music,
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  • singer, songwriter, actor,
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  • speaker, and producer, Javen.
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  • Ready to take your calls,
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  • prayer partners
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  • from around America.
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  • [music]
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • let every nation rejoice!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • with one mighty voice!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • Praise...
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  • - announcer: Now your host,
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  • President of National Hispanic
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  • Christian Leadership Conference,
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  • Reverend Samuel Rodriguez!
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • - Samuel Rodriguez: Hey!
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  • Well, bless the Lord,
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  • bless the Lord.
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  • What an audience.
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  • Bless the Lord, indeed.
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  • This is the day the Lord has
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  • made and we will rejoice
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • What a line-up.
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  • To Matt and Laurie and Jan,
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  • we love you.
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  • And TBN is not speaking about
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  • one day changing the world.
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  • TBN is literally changing
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  • the world with the grace and
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  • the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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  • Today's theme.
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  • We can either spend our time
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  • complaining and cursing the
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  • darkness or we can turn on the
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  • Curse the darkness
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  • or turn on the light.
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  • This is what I assure you in
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  • Jesus' name.
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  • By the time this program is
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  • over, every dark place in your
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  • life will be pushed back and the
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  • light of the grace of Jesus will
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  • What does this mean in a
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  • nutshell?
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  • In the next few minutes, the
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  • light is about to be turned on
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  • in your life.
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  • In your family, your home, your
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  • marriage, your ministry, your
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  • health, your finances, your
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  • destiny.
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  • Get ready.
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  • Darkness is about to flee in the
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  • name of Jesus.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Now, you may ask how do I know.
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  • Well, Matthew 5:14 through 16.
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  • But how do I know?
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  • The guests that we have on
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  • today.
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  • We have a testimony of a young
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  • man who was dead.
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  • And I mean certified, medically
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  • certified dead, for an entire
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  • hour.
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  • Until Mama--Mama stepped into
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  • the emergency room and prayed.
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  • Jason Noble, John Smith, and
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  • Joyce Smith are in the house
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  • here today.
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  • We have Javen who's gonna sing
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  • us to heaven and he's give
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  • us--give God praise but watch
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  • this.
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  • You have to hear this, you have
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  • to hear this.
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  • We have one of the fastest
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  • growing churches in all of
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  • the Los Angeles area.
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  • Now, someone once stated that
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  • Los Angeles is today's
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  • Sodom and Gomorrah.
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  • Well, I think that Pastor Steve
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  • never received the memo because
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  • this church is blowing up in
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  • the L.A. area,
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  • right across from the most
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  • significant studio in all
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  • Hollywood.
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  • So you'll hear from Pastor
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  • Steve Wilburn.
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  • And then we're gonna wrap up
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  • with a dear friend.
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  • The movie, "Miracles from
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  • Heaven," is just--has taken off.
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  • It's light in the midst of
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  • darkness.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • You're gonna hear from
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  • DeVon Franklin, the author of
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  • the book, "The Wait," at the end
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  • of the program.
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  • So get ready.
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  • Let's begin.
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  • Now, the size of your praise is
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  • directly proportional to the
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  • magnitude of the hell that God
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  • takes you out of.
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  • I'll say that one more time.
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  • The size and the ludicrousy, the
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  • craziness of your praise, is
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  • directly proportional to the
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  • magnitude of the hell that God
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  • takes you out of.
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  • So if God took you out of a
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  • little hell, then you give him a
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  • little praise.
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  • But if he saved you, delivered
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  • you, and healed you, then you
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  • give God the highest praise.
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  • Let's praise God together right
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  • now with my friend, Javen.
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  • "Right Now Praise."
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  • Let's go!
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  • [music]
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  • - Javen: C'mon, get up on your
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  • feet, everybody.
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  • Around the world, wherever
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  • you are, let's start
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  • praising the Lord, amen?
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  • Oh, oh.
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  • [music]
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  • Here we go.
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  • Here I stand before you,
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  • ready to give you
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  • all I can give.
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  • Yes, I surrender my life
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  • to you.
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  • Open up my heart for you.
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  • I live.
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  • For you, I live.
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  • 'Cause Lord, you've done
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  • so much for me.
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  • I can't describe.
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  • Yeah.
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  • me realize this is
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  • my chance to live.
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  • And I'm giving you
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  • right now praise.
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  • C'mon, clap your hands.
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  • Praise, praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Giving you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Give you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise.
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  • Somebody make some noise
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  • for Jesus in the house today.
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  • Yeah-hey-hey-hey.
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  • No more holding back, Lord.
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  • All the things we know
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  • belongs to you.
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  • It all belongs to you.
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  • We release the sound
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  • of worship.
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  • Give to you all of
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  • the praise that's due.
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • Your praise connects us to
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  • the wonders of your love.
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  • Mm-hmm.
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  • We lift our hands to you
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  • today, release your holy
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  • Everybody.
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  • Giving you a right
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  • now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • C'mon, clap those hands.
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  • Let's go.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Giving you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Give you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Here we go.
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  • Say, hey-ah, Oh, oh, oh.
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  • Clap your hands, c'mon.
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  • Oh, oh, oh.
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  • Wherever you are today.
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  • Oh, oh, oh.
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  • Begin to lift up
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  • the name of Jesus.
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  • He said,
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  • "I'll be lifted up.
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  • I'll draw."
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  • Oh, oh, oh.
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  • Oh, oh, oh.
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  • Yeah-yeah.
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  • Oh, oh, oh.
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  • Hey.
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  • In the midst of every song,
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  • just one word from you,
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  • the winds and the waves,
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  • all may calm.
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  • Yes, they are.
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  • And we worship all day long.
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  • 'Cause you turned our sorrow
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  • into--do I have
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  • any praisers right now?
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  • right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Give you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Give you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Give you right now praise.
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  • Praise, praise, praise.
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  • Here we go.
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  • Say ah--
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  • Ah, ah, ah.
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  • C'mon, clap those hands.
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  • Ah, ah, ah, oh.
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  • He said if I be lifted up.
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  • Ah, ah, ah, oh.
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  • Say Praise.
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  • Hey!
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  • Give you right now praise.
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • Hey!
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  • This is the day
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  • the Lord has made.
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  • Rejoice and give
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  • your praise.
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  • This is the day
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  • the Lord has made.
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  • Anybody wanna lift
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  • him up today?
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  • This is the day
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  • the Lord has made.
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  • Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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  • Yes, I will.
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  • I came to give you praise.
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  • Yes, I did.
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  • You've been so good.
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  • You've been so good.
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  • I gotta lift him.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • - Samuel: That's Javen with
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  • "Right Now Praise."
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  • Right now praise, indeed.
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  • So here I am.
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  • I'm about to preach at
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  • a WinterFest gathering.
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  • It's about 15.000 young people
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  • in Knoxville, Tennessee, and for
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  • whatever reason, it's about a
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  • few days prior, I get this feed
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  • on my phone, news feed, right?
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  • Secular sources, not Christian
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  • news feed, from secular sources.
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  • And I see this feed about a boy
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  • who was on a lake and the lake
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  • was thawing out in next to
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  • St. Louis, Missouri.
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  • And this boy went down with his
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  • friends.
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  • The friends came out, the boy
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  • did not.
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  • They found his body.
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  • They tried to resuscitate him.
  • 00:09:04.060 --> 00:09:05.250
  • And the news feed said, "Boy
  • 00:09:05.250 --> 00:09:08.060
  • dead comes back to life."
  • 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:11.240
  • Now this is secular.
  • 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.080
  • This is not, like, you know, not
  • 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:14.060
  • that we're you know, in any way,
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  • form, or shape, speaking
  • 00:09:16.250 --> 00:09:17.200
  • condescending of testimonies we
  • 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.220
  • hear, but some of them you have
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  • to do your due diligence and
  • 00:09:20.020 --> 00:09:20.290
  • make sure they're accurate,
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  • right?
  • 00:09:21.270 --> 00:09:22.150
  • Sometimes there's a bit of
  • 00:09:22.150 --> 00:09:23.100
  • hyperbole in church.
  • 00:09:23.100 --> 00:09:24.090
  • I can't believe I said that.
  • 00:09:24.090 --> 00:09:25.220
  • But we have to make sure it's
  • 00:09:25.220 --> 00:09:27.120
  • actually the word integrity and
  • 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:28.140
  • it's actual stories that we can
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  • document.
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  • Mom--this is Joyce Smith.
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  • And, Mom, tell me--this is what
  • 00:09:34.130 --> 00:09:37.110
  • I read in a secular news story.
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  • Mom comes in, raises her voice,
  • 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:43.120
  • prays.
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  • Boy comes back to life.
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  • - Joyce Smith: Yes.
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  • - Samuel: Ladies and gentlemen,
  • 00:09:46.280 --> 00:09:47.200
  • here's the mama that prayed.
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  • a little bit about the story.
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  • What happened?
  • 00:09:54.160 --> 00:09:55.200
  • What did you hear about your
  • 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:56.130
  • son?
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  • Give us the narrative, please.
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  • - Joyce: It was Martin Luther
  • 00:09:58.090 --> 00:10:00.130
  • King's Day and my son had spent
  • 00:10:00.130 --> 00:10:01.250
  • the night with his friends.
  • 00:10:01.250 --> 00:10:03.220
  • him up and so I called him to
  • 00:10:05.160 --> 00:10:06.280
  • ask him what he wanted to do
  • 00:10:06.280 --> 00:10:08.000
  • that day.
  • 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:09.000
  • And he told me, you know, he
  • 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.180
  • wanted to go to the rec, play
  • 00:10:10.180 --> 00:10:11.250
  • some--play basketball because
  • 00:10:11.250 --> 00:10:12.230
  • that's his thing.
  • 00:10:12.230 --> 00:10:13.280
  • And so I said, "Okay, well, I'll
  • 00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:16.020
  • pick you up at noon."
  • 00:10:16.020 --> 00:10:16.250
  • This was about 11:27.
  • 00:10:16.250 --> 00:10:19.120
  • And so about 25 minutes later,
  • 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:23.120
  • my phone rings and the mother
  • 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:24.230
  • who was going to bring John home
  • 00:10:24.230 --> 00:10:27.000
  • called me and she said, "Joyce,
  • 00:10:27.290 --> 00:10:30.290
  • I need to talk to you."
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  • And I said, "Okay."
  • 00:10:32.180 --> 00:10:33.220
  • She said--I said, "Do you want
  • 00:10:33.220 --> 00:10:35.120
  • me come pick the kids up?"
  • 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:36.100
  • And she said, "No, there's been
  • 00:10:36.100 --> 00:10:37.040
  • an accident."
  • 00:10:37.040 --> 00:10:38.100
  • And I said, "Did you have a car
  • 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:39.030
  • accident?"
  • 00:10:39.030 --> 00:10:39.230
  • And she said, "No."
  • 00:10:39.230 --> 00:10:41.010
  • She said, "John was out on the
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  • lake with the boys and fell
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  • through the ice and they've just
  • 00:10:44.280 --> 00:10:47.010
  • pulled him up and he doesn't
  • 00:10:47.010 --> 00:10:48.190
  • have a heartbeat."
  • 00:10:48.190 --> 00:10:50.010
  • And I was, well, just, you know,
  • 00:10:50.050 --> 00:10:53.050
  • it's not the--I was expecting a
  • 00:10:53.050 --> 00:10:54.230
  • telephone call.
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  • Not that one.
  • 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:56.210
  • And so, I immediately got up and
  • 00:10:56.210 --> 00:10:59.040
  • I was trying to get myself
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  • pulled together and go to the
  • 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.090
  • hospital.
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  • They were taking him to the
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  • hospital.
  • 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.110
  • And so I got in the car and
  • 00:11:05.110 --> 00:11:07.030
  • started trying to call
  • 00:11:07.030 --> 00:11:09.080
  • anyone--my husband, whoever, to
  • 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.090
  • tell them what was going on.
  • 00:11:11.090 --> 00:11:13.130
  • And I couldn't get a hold of
  • 00:11:13.130 --> 00:11:14.050
  • anyone.
  • 00:11:14.050 --> 00:11:15.030
  • And I finally got a hold of one
  • 00:11:15.030 --> 00:11:15.270
  • of our friends from church and
  • 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:17.090
  • told him what was going on.
  • 00:11:17.090 --> 00:11:18.110
  • So he called our pastor and so
  • 00:11:18.110 --> 00:11:19.270
  • forth to come and get him.
  • 00:11:19.270 --> 00:11:21.250
  • And meanwhile I'm driving to the
  • 00:11:21.250 --> 00:11:23.060
  • hospital, having a conversation
  • 00:11:23.110 --> 00:11:26.110
  • with God very loudly about what
  • 00:11:26.110 --> 00:11:28.160
  • was going on with my son.
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  • And--
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  • - Samuel: By the way, underline
  • 00:11:31.110 --> 00:11:32.030
  • very loudly.
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  • - Joyce: Very loudly, yes.
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  • - Samuel: Sometimes, you have
  • 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:34.150
  • to raise the volume.
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  • - Joyce: Yes, in case he wasn't
  • 00:11:35.090 --> 00:11:36.050
  • listening.
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  • I wanted him to hear.
  • 00:11:37.150 --> 00:11:39.160
  • But, you know, during that time,
  • 00:11:39.160 --> 00:11:41.200
  • God put all these things
  • 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:44.090
  • together in a tapestry that was
  • 00:11:44.090 --> 00:11:47.060
  • woven together so beautifully,
  • 00:11:47.060 --> 00:11:48.160
  • the miracles, each step of the
  • 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:50.030
  • way.
  • 00:11:50.030 --> 00:11:51.150
  • But we had just been having in
  • 00:11:51.150 --> 00:11:52.220
  • our Bible study, a Beth Moore
  • 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:54.000
  • Bible study teaching "Believing
  • 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.210
  • God."
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  • And one of the things that we
  • 00:11:56.150 --> 00:11:57.130
  • talked about every morning when
  • 00:11:57.130 --> 00:11:59.040
  • you do this Bible study was, "I
  • 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:01.020
  • believe God is who he says he
  • 00:12:01.020 --> 00:12:03.010
  • is.
  • 00:12:03.010 --> 00:12:03.240
  • I believe God can say--do what
  • 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:06.020
  • he says he can do.
  • 00:12:06.020 --> 00:12:07.040
  • And I'm believing God."
  • 00:12:07.040 --> 00:12:08.150
  • These were the things we would
  • 00:12:08.150 --> 00:12:09.140
  • do when we were doing this Bible
  • 00:12:09.140 --> 00:12:10.220
  • study.
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  • It was a--
  • 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.010
  • - Samuel: So you were in the
  • 00:12:12.010 --> 00:12:12.220
  • midst of this Bible study right
  • 00:12:12.220 --> 00:12:13.160
  • when this took place?
  • 00:12:13.160 --> 00:12:14.100
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:12:14.100 --> 00:12:15.180
  • So I--it was just a Godsend at
  • 00:12:16.040 --> 00:12:19.040
  • that time.
  • 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:19.240
  • It wasn't perchance that we
  • 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.090
  • happened.
  • 00:12:21.090 --> 00:12:21.280
  • This was God ordained.
  • 00:12:21.280 --> 00:12:23.250
  • And so I started praying all the
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  • way to the hospital.
  • 00:12:25.150 --> 00:12:26.210
  • And I got to the hospital and I
  • 00:12:26.210 --> 00:12:28.030
  • don't know how I got there.
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  • I just know I got there.
  • 00:12:30.040 --> 00:12:32.010
  • And I got in and there's a sweet
  • 00:12:32.010 --> 00:12:34.160
  • little nun that came in and sat
  • 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:35.290
  • down with me and started
  • 00:12:35.290 --> 00:12:36.260
  • praying.
  • 00:12:36.260 --> 00:12:37.280
  • She was precious.
  • 00:12:37.280 --> 00:12:39.110
  • And they wouldn't let me go back
  • 00:12:39.110 --> 00:12:40.130
  • to the room yet and so she sat
  • 00:12:40.130 --> 00:12:42.170
  • there and prayed with me for a
  • 00:12:42.170 --> 00:12:43.180
  • little.
  • 00:12:43.180 --> 00:12:45.120
  • We had--and so a little longer
  • 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:46.200
  • time had passed by and they came
  • 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.080
  • back and said, "Mrs. Smith,
  • 00:12:48.260 --> 00:12:51.260
  • would you please come back
  • 00:12:51.260 --> 00:12:52.270
  • to the emergency room?
  • 00:12:52.270 --> 00:12:54.050
  • We want you to come in."
  • 00:12:54.050 --> 00:12:55.130
  • And so I walked back to the
  • 00:12:55.130 --> 00:12:56.230
  • emergency room and God had set
  • 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:58.190
  • out an audience for what he was
  • 00:13:00.270 --> 00:13:03.270
  • getting ready to do because when
  • 00:13:03.270 --> 00:13:06.020
  • I walked in there, there was no
  • 00:13:06.020 --> 00:13:07.040
  • less than 30 people from the
  • 00:13:07.040 --> 00:13:09.000
  • hospital in this emergency room,
  • 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:10.260
  • people from respiratory therapy
  • 00:13:10.260 --> 00:13:12.240
  • and so forth.
  • 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:13.280
  • - Samuel: You had an audience
  • 00:13:13.280 --> 00:13:14.210
  • there?
  • 00:13:14.210 --> 00:13:15.080
  • - Joyce: Yes, we had an
  • 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:15.260
  • audience.
  • 00:13:15.260 --> 00:13:16.110
  • - Samuel: Now, how many minutes
  • 00:13:16.110 --> 00:13:17.030
  • were they working, for lack of a
  • 00:13:17.030 --> 00:13:18.160
  • better term, were they working
  • 00:13:18.160 --> 00:13:19.200
  • on John?
  • 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:20.190
  • - Joyce: At this point in time,
  • 00:13:20.190 --> 00:13:21.290
  • we were probably--at the
  • 00:13:21.290 --> 00:13:23.080
  • hospital, they'd been working on
  • 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:24.080
  • him about 40 minutes.
  • 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:25.180
  • - Samuel: In the hospital?
  • 00:13:25.180 --> 00:13:27.020
  • - Joyce: In the hospital.
  • 00:13:27.020 --> 00:13:28.040
  • - Samuel: This is besides the
  • 00:13:28.040 --> 00:13:28.250
  • ambulance time?
  • 00:13:28.250 --> 00:13:29.180
  • - Joyce: And the 15 minutes he
  • 00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:30.140
  • was under the ice.
  • 00:13:30.140 --> 00:13:31.260
  • - Samuel: Fifteen minutes,
  • 00:13:31.260 --> 00:13:33.030
  • ambulance, plus 40 minutes?
  • 00:13:33.030 --> 00:13:34.130
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:13:34.130 --> 00:13:35.040
  • - Samuel: And nothing?
  • 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:35.240
  • - Joyce: Nothing.
  • 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:36.180
  • Nothing at all.
  • 00:13:36.180 --> 00:13:38.030
  • - Samuel: So now they're
  • 00:13:38.030 --> 00:13:38.230
  • escorting you inside the
  • 00:13:38.230 --> 00:13:39.250
  • emergency room for what purpose?
  • 00:13:39.250 --> 00:13:41.170
  • - Joyce: I didn't know at that
  • 00:13:41.170 --> 00:13:42.220
  • point in time what the purpose
  • 00:13:42.220 --> 00:13:43.290
  • was but they were bringing me in
  • 00:13:43.290 --> 00:13:45.100
  • because they were getting ready
  • 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:46.150
  • to call time of death.
  • 00:13:46.210 --> 00:13:49.210
  • And so, we found out later from
  • 00:13:49.210 --> 00:13:52.020
  • the doctor that part of the
  • 00:13:52.020 --> 00:13:53.170
  • things that they do when they're
  • 00:13:53.170 --> 00:13:55.130
  • getting ready to do this, is
  • 00:13:55.130 --> 00:13:56.270
  • they want you to see that they
  • 00:13:56.270 --> 00:13:58.250
  • are doing everything they can
  • 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:00.080
  • possibly--
  • 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.040
  • - Samuel: Sure, for liability
  • 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:01.250
  • purposes and whatsoever.
  • 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:02.200
  • - Joyce: And also seeing the
  • 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.020
  • trauma that is being put on your
  • 00:14:04.020 --> 00:14:06.170
  • child.
  • 00:14:06.170 --> 00:14:07.250
  • When I walked in the room there,
  • 00:14:07.250 --> 00:14:09.090
  • the gentleman that was doing CPR
  • 00:14:09.090 --> 00:14:11.260
  • on my son was--what do you think
  • 00:14:11.260 --> 00:14:13.190
  • Keith is, 6'7"?
  • 00:14:13.190 --> 00:14:14.260
  • - Jason Noble: Yeah.
  • 00:14:14.260 --> 00:14:15.180
  • - Joyce: Enormous.
  • 00:14:15.180 --> 00:14:16.200
  • And I thought to myself, they've
  • 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:17.170
  • got the biggest guy in the
  • 00:14:17.170 --> 00:14:18.220
  • hospital coming here to crush my
  • 00:14:18.220 --> 00:14:19.280
  • son.
  • 00:14:19.280 --> 00:14:20.290
  • I mean, that was my thoughts
  • 00:14:20.290 --> 00:14:22.030
  • when I saw this and so they
  • 00:14:22.030 --> 00:14:23.130
  • were--he was--perspiration was
  • 00:14:23.130 --> 00:14:25.080
  • just pouring off of his brow and
  • 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.020
  • his smock was--
  • 00:14:27.020 --> 00:14:28.100
  • - Samuel: Forty minutes?
  • 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:29.100
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:14:29.100 --> 00:14:30.050
  • - Samuel: So you walked into
  • 00:14:30.050 --> 00:14:31.120
  • the emergency room.
  • 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:32.080
  • You have an audience of
  • 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:32.290
  • approximately 30 people?
  • 00:14:32.290 --> 00:14:34.070
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:35.010
  • - Samuel: And you're there,
  • 00:14:35.010 --> 00:14:36.080
  • basically, to certify the fact
  • 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.150
  • that--time of death?
  • 00:14:37.150 --> 00:14:38.290
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:14:38.290 --> 00:14:39.200
  • - Samuel: What did you do?
  • 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:40.230
  • What did you say?
  • 00:14:40.230 --> 00:14:41.190
  • - Joyce: Well, I didn't know
  • 00:14:41.190 --> 00:14:42.100
  • that at the time.
  • 00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:43.070
  • And I was sitting there and so
  • 00:14:43.070 --> 00:14:44.210
  • in my peripheral vision I could
  • 00:14:44.210 --> 00:14:46.110
  • see this gentleman who was
  • 00:14:46.110 --> 00:14:47.150
  • pacing back and forth and he
  • 00:14:47.150 --> 00:14:49.190
  • came over and he knelt down next
  • 00:14:49.190 --> 00:14:51.010
  • to my leg and he put his hand on
  • 00:14:51.010 --> 00:14:53.040
  • my knee and he goes, "Joyce, if
  • 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:54.230
  • you wanna go over and talk to
  • 00:14:54.230 --> 00:14:56.010
  • your son, you can."
  • 00:14:56.010 --> 00:14:57.140
  • And I thought, "Boy, that's
  • 00:14:57.140 --> 00:14:58.050
  • really strange," you know.
  • 00:14:58.050 --> 00:14:59.110
  • Because, to me, all the way to
  • 00:15:00.110 --> 00:15:03.110
  • the hospital with my
  • 00:15:03.110 --> 00:15:05.070
  • conversation with God, God
  • 00:15:05.070 --> 00:15:06.210
  • wasn't going to let my son go.
  • 00:15:06.210 --> 00:15:08.090
  • That was my feeling.
  • 00:15:08.090 --> 00:15:10.030
  • - Samuel: Now, Joyce, let me
  • 00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:10.240
  • ask you again for our audience
  • 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:11.210
  • and--you knew that?
  • 00:15:11.210 --> 00:15:13.090
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:15:13.090 --> 00:15:14.030
  • - Samuel: That God--that
  • 00:15:14.030 --> 00:15:15.150
  • somehow, God was in control?
  • 00:15:15.150 --> 00:15:16.280
  • - Joyce: God was in control.
  • 00:15:16.280 --> 00:15:18.080
  • We prayed for John.
  • 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.110
  • We adopted John.
  • 00:15:19.110 --> 00:15:20.130
  • My husband and I had been
  • 00:15:20.130 --> 00:15:21.170
  • married for 17 years and we'd
  • 00:15:21.170 --> 00:15:23.150
  • always wanted a child.
  • 00:15:23.150 --> 00:15:24.290
  • We'd lost 2 children but we
  • 00:15:24.290 --> 00:15:25.280
  • couldn't have any more children
  • 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:27.140
  • and so we wanted a child and so
  • 00:15:27.140 --> 00:15:29.250
  • we adopted John and I thought to
  • 00:15:29.250 --> 00:15:30.230
  • myself, "We prayed so hard from
  • 00:15:30.230 --> 00:15:31.260
  • him.
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  • I know God is not going to take
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  • him away from me."
  • 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.100
  • And that was just my thought,
  • 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:38.020
  • that God is faithful.
  • 00:15:38.070 --> 00:15:41.070
  • And I just knew with all that
  • 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.080
  • was going on, God was not going
  • 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:45.270
  • to take my son.
  • 00:15:45.270 --> 00:15:47.140
  • And so when I walked up to the
  • 00:15:47.140 --> 00:15:49.080
  • end of the bed, they had him in
  • 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:50.220
  • a what they call a big
  • 00:15:50.220 --> 00:15:51.260
  • bear-hugger and they were
  • 00:15:51.260 --> 00:15:53.040
  • warming his body because when
  • 00:15:53.040 --> 00:15:54.050
  • they brought him in, his body
  • 00:15:54.050 --> 00:15:55.120
  • temperature was only--was it 86?
  • 00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:59.180
  • Yeah, 86 degrees.
  • 00:15:59.180 --> 00:16:00.210
  • And later on, we found out.
  • 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:02.140
  • Dr. Suter said that you're not
  • 00:16:02.170 --> 00:16:05.170
  • dead until you're warm and dead.
  • 00:16:05.170 --> 00:16:07.100
  • So they were warming his body so
  • 00:16:07.100 --> 00:16:08.170
  • they could call time of death.
  • 00:16:08.170 --> 00:16:11.170
  • And so I didn't realize that and
  • 00:16:11.170 --> 00:16:14.010
  • my mindset was God was gonna
  • 00:16:14.010 --> 00:16:15.250
  • take care of this.
  • 00:16:15.250 --> 00:16:17.070
  • - Samuel: So you walked in,
  • 00:16:17.070 --> 00:16:18.200
  • 30 people, audience.
  • 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.100
  • You have a 6 foot-plus person
  • 00:16:20.100 --> 00:16:22.270
  • performing CPR, sweating up a
  • 00:16:22.270 --> 00:16:24.290
  • storm, and they just want you to
  • 00:16:24.290 --> 00:16:26.240
  • certify it and validate it.
  • 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.050
  • And you did what?
  • 00:16:28.050 --> 00:16:30.030
  • - Joyce: I walked over the end
  • 00:16:30.030 --> 00:16:30.290
  • of his bed and the only thing
  • 00:16:30.290 --> 00:16:31.290
  • was--that I could touch was his
  • 00:16:31.290 --> 00:16:33.070
  • feet.
  • 00:16:33.070 --> 00:16:34.030
  • I wanted to touch him.
  • 00:16:34.030 --> 00:16:35.120
  • And they were cold and gray.
  • 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:36.190
  • And I knew at that point in
  • 00:16:36.190 --> 00:16:37.220
  • time, this was desperate and I
  • 00:16:37.220 --> 00:16:39.120
  • was desperate with God.
  • 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:41.200
  • And so I grabbed hold of his
  • 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.040
  • feet and I--all my life, you
  • 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.080
  • hear "the Holy Spirit who raised
  • 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:49.050
  • Christ Jesus from the dead,"
  • 00:16:49.050 --> 00:16:51.050
  • okay?
  • 00:16:51.050 --> 00:16:52.090
  • - Samuel: C'mon!
  • 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:53.030
  • - Joyce: So I got a hold of
  • 00:16:53.030 --> 00:16:54.060
  • his feet and I--when I did,
  • 00:16:54.060 --> 00:16:56.240
  • I just started praying.
  • 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.160
  • I said, "Holy Spirit, please
  • 00:16:58.160 --> 00:17:00.100
  • come and give me back my son.
  • 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:02.110
  • Please give me back--"
  • 00:17:02.110 --> 00:17:03.050
  • - Samuel: Now, Joyce, I must
  • 00:17:03.050 --> 00:17:03.260
  • interject.
  • 00:17:03.260 --> 00:17:04.170
  • You know why?
  • 00:17:04.170 --> 00:17:05.090
  • - Joyce: Why?
  • 00:17:05.090 --> 00:17:05.270
  • - Samuel: That's not what
  • 00:17:05.270 --> 00:17:06.200
  • the news story said.
  • 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.100
  • The secular news story said,
  • 00:17:08.100 --> 00:17:09.290
  • "Mama raised her voice."
  • 00:17:09.290 --> 00:17:12.250
  • - Joyce: We don't like to talk
  • 00:17:12.250 --> 00:17:14.010
  • about that.
  • 00:17:14.010 --> 00:17:16.160
  • Because I have been told--I
  • 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.100
  • thought I was being very quiet
  • 00:17:18.100 --> 00:17:20.110
  • and demure, okay?
  • 00:17:20.110 --> 00:17:22.030
  • And that I was praying under
  • 00:17:22.030 --> 00:17:22.290
  • control.
  • 00:17:22.290 --> 00:17:23.230
  • - Samuel: That's not what the
  • 00:17:23.230 --> 00:17:24.140
  • witnesses actually attested to.
  • 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:26.080
  • - Joyce: No, they said everyone
  • 00:17:26.080 --> 00:17:27.140
  • in the emergency room could hear
  • 00:17:27.140 --> 00:17:28.180
  • me talking.
  • 00:17:28.180 --> 00:17:31.040
  • - Samuel: So you walked in.
  • 00:17:31.040 --> 00:17:31.250
  • Tell me again, the prayer.
  • 00:17:31.250 --> 00:17:32.160
  • And it was--you raised your
  • 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:33.150
  • volume.
  • 00:17:33.150 --> 00:17:34.290
  • What did you pray?
  • 00:17:34.290 --> 00:17:35.190
  • - Joyce: I prayed,
  • 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:36.080
  • "Holy Spirit, please come and
  • 00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:37.230
  • give me back my son."
  • 00:17:37.230 --> 00:17:40.020
  • And within seconds--
  • 00:17:40.020 --> 00:17:42.010
  • - Samuel: Within seconds?
  • 00:17:42.010 --> 00:17:43.270
  • - Joyce: Within seconds, they
  • 00:17:43.270 --> 00:17:45.030
  • said, "We've got a pulse.
  • 00:17:45.030 --> 00:17:46.190
  • We've got a pulse."
  • 00:17:46.190 --> 00:17:47.270
  • And at that point in time,
  • 00:17:47.270 --> 00:17:49.060
  • to me, the work was done.
  • 00:17:49.060 --> 00:17:51.010
  • It was finished and God was
  • 00:17:51.010 --> 00:17:53.190
  • gonna heal him.
  • 00:17:53.190 --> 00:17:56.060
  • - Samuel: So we have a
  • 00:17:56.060 --> 00:17:57.220
  • Christ-centered, Bible-based,
  • 00:17:57.220 --> 00:18:00.120
  • Spirit-empowered woman.
  • 00:18:00.120 --> 00:18:02.120
  • You're basically like
  • 00:18:02.120 --> 00:18:03.220
  • the Shunammite woman of
  • 00:18:03.220 --> 00:18:05.180
  • the 21st century.
  • 00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:06.220
  • In 2 Kings, the prophet Elisha.
  • 00:18:06.220 --> 00:18:09.090
  • You were praying for a boy.
  • 00:18:09.090 --> 00:18:10.150
  • God gave you a boy.
  • 00:18:10.150 --> 00:18:12.130
  • God gave you a miracle and you
  • 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:14.030
  • refused for your miracle to die.
  • 00:18:14.030 --> 00:18:16.040
  • So you walked into the emergency
  • 00:18:16.040 --> 00:18:18.010
  • room and you raised your voice
  • 00:18:18.010 --> 00:18:19.150
  • and you were in the midst of a
  • 00:18:19.150 --> 00:18:20.150
  • Bible study where you were,
  • 00:18:20.150 --> 00:18:22.000
  • again, affirming the fact that
  • 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.100
  • all things were possible through
  • 00:18:23.100 --> 00:18:24.150
  • God.
  • 00:18:24.150 --> 00:18:25.090
  • Believe God for what he has
  • 00:18:25.090 --> 00:18:26.250
  • promised.
  • 00:18:26.250 --> 00:18:27.210
  • And you raised your voice and
  • 00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:29.060
  • you weren't ashamed to pray like
  • 00:18:29.060 --> 00:18:30.150
  • that in front of 30 doctors
  • 00:18:30.150 --> 00:18:32.100
  • and nurses and technicians?
  • 00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:33.200
  • - Joyce: No, I didn't care at
  • 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:34.110
  • that point in time.
  • 00:18:34.110 --> 00:18:35.090
  • - Samuel: I didn't care
  • 00:18:35.090 --> 00:18:36.110
  • at that point in time.
  • 00:18:36.110 --> 00:18:37.180
  • - Joyce: It was--I knew that
  • 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:39.060
  • this was the moment that God had
  • 00:18:39.060 --> 00:18:41.010
  • to act.
  • 00:18:41.010 --> 00:18:42.170
  • And I hadn't--as I say, I didn't
  • 00:18:42.170 --> 00:18:44.040
  • understand any of the things
  • 00:18:44.040 --> 00:18:45.190
  • that they were doing and what
  • 00:18:45.190 --> 00:18:46.280
  • they were getting ready to do.
  • 00:18:46.280 --> 00:18:48.090
  • And didn't know for 2 days later
  • 00:18:48.090 --> 00:18:50.030
  • that that was the case.
  • 00:18:50.030 --> 00:18:51.190
  • - Samuel: And I'm not
  • 00:18:51.190 --> 00:18:52.110
  • being--I'm not playing devil's
  • 00:18:52.110 --> 00:18:54.000
  • advocate but why couldn't you
  • 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.050
  • just accept the reality of what
  • 00:18:55.050 --> 00:18:56.100
  • was there in front of you?
  • 00:18:56.100 --> 00:18:57.150
  • Of what your eyes demonstrated?
  • 00:18:57.150 --> 00:18:58.240
  • Why not?
  • 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.120
  • I mean, other people would have
  • 00:19:00.120 --> 00:19:01.080
  • said, "It's done."
  • 00:19:01.080 --> 00:19:02.000
  • Why not?
  • 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:02.210
  • - Joyce: Because I know God
  • 00:19:02.210 --> 00:19:04.030
  • does the impossible.
  • 00:19:04.030 --> 00:19:05.120
  • I've seen him do the impossible.
  • 00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:07.260
  • And God is no respecter of
  • 00:19:07.260 --> 00:19:09.220
  • person.
  • 00:19:09.220 --> 00:19:11.140
  • - Samuel: And this is important
  • 00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:12.090
  • right now.
  • 00:19:12.090 --> 00:19:13.100
  • This is--we've heard about the
  • 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:14.150
  • power of a praying mom.
  • 00:19:14.150 --> 00:19:16.180
  • This is literally a mother with
  • 00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:18.260
  • her child, right there, dead in
  • 00:19:18.260 --> 00:19:21.050
  • front of her, and she refused at
  • 00:19:21.050 --> 00:19:23.110
  • all to embrace what
  • 00:19:23.110 --> 00:19:25.100
  • the circumstances defined.
  • 00:19:25.100 --> 00:19:28.040
  • You're not defined by what
  • 00:19:28.040 --> 00:19:29.150
  • you see.
  • 00:19:29.150 --> 00:19:30.140
  • You're defined by what God has
  • 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:31.120
  • promised you.
  • 00:19:31.120 --> 00:19:32.120
  • And this praying mom raised her
  • 00:19:32.250 --> 00:19:35.250
  • voice.
  • 00:19:35.250 --> 00:19:37.020
  • And I love the fact that it
  • 00:19:37.020 --> 00:19:37.250
  • wasn't some sort of intrinsic
  • 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:38.220
  • prayer where you--it was a
  • 00:19:38.220 --> 00:19:40.260
  • reflection or a mediated moment.
  • 00:19:40.260 --> 00:19:42.290
  • You raised your voice.
  • 00:19:42.290 --> 00:19:45.040
  • You know, you raised your voice
  • 00:19:45.040 --> 00:19:46.220
  • and the boy that was dead,
  • 00:19:46.220 --> 00:19:49.170
  • certified dead, all these
  • 00:19:49.170 --> 00:19:51.190
  • minutes passed away.
  • 00:19:51.190 --> 00:19:52.230
  • Pastor Jason Noble,
  • 00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:53.280
  • you're the pastor.
  • 00:19:53.280 --> 00:19:54.180
  • How many minutes was he dead?
  • 00:19:54.180 --> 00:19:56.050
  • And tell me about the brain
  • 00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:57.000
  • activity.
  • 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:57.170
  • This is critical, by the way.
  • 00:19:57.170 --> 00:19:58.080
  • - Jason: Well, and so what
  • 00:19:58.080 --> 00:19:59.020
  • for 15 minutes.
  • 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:02.240
  • He was without a pulse for 45,
  • 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.290
  • 50.
  • 00:20:04.290 --> 00:20:06.020
  • And so they were able to get the
  • 00:20:06.020 --> 00:20:07.270
  • pulse back but that was only the
  • 00:20:07.270 --> 00:20:09.090
  • beginning.
  • 00:20:09.090 --> 00:20:10.060
  • The doctor that was attending to
  • 00:20:10.060 --> 00:20:11.170
  • him would tell you--tell us
  • 00:20:11.170 --> 00:20:13.030
  • later on, we were just moving
  • 00:20:13.030 --> 00:20:14.170
  • to the next place of death.
  • 00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:17.240
  • - Samuel: So basically, he's
  • 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:18.150
  • dead an hour and the fact that
  • 00:20:18.150 --> 00:20:19.190
  • he has the pulse now, this, you
  • 00:20:19.190 --> 00:20:21.020
  • know, it's not necessarily the
  • 00:20:21.020 --> 00:20:22.220
  • best of news.
  • 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:24.040
  • 'Cause he may be technically
  • 00:20:24.040 --> 00:20:25.230
  • alive but, because of the lack
  • 00:20:25.230 --> 00:20:27.110
  • of brain activity for an hour--
  • 00:20:27.110 --> 00:20:28.190
  • - Jason: Correct.
  • 00:20:28.190 --> 00:20:29.140
  • So they moved him to another
  • 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:30.060
  • hospital within that amount of
  • 00:20:30.060 --> 00:20:31.110
  • time.
  • 00:20:31.110 --> 00:20:32.010
  • They moved him down to
  • 00:20:32.010 --> 00:20:32.210
  • Children's Hospital down in
  • 00:20:32.210 --> 00:20:33.260
  • St. Louis, Cardinal Glennon, and
  • 00:20:33.260 --> 00:20:35.120
  • the doctor came out and told Mom
  • 00:20:35.120 --> 00:20:37.040
  • and us that his--he had no brain
  • 00:20:37.040 --> 00:20:39.230
  • activity and that if he did
  • 00:20:39.230 --> 00:20:41.220
  • live, more than likely he would
  • 00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:43.080
  • be a vegetable.
  • 00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:44.150
  • And so they were asking Mom and
  • 00:20:44.150 --> 00:20:46.130
  • Dad, "Do you want us to
  • 00:20:46.130 --> 00:20:47.210
  • resuscitate him or not or what's
  • 00:20:47.210 --> 00:20:49.090
  • the deal?"
  • 00:20:49.090 --> 00:20:50.060
  • So at that point, we had about
  • 00:20:50.060 --> 00:20:52.070
  • six pastors in the room.
  • 00:20:52.070 --> 00:20:53.290
  • We walked into that room and we
  • 00:20:53.290 --> 00:20:55.120
  • started praying.
  • 00:20:55.120 --> 00:20:56.280
  • We believe we started praying
  • 00:20:56.280 --> 00:20:58.110
  • that, amen--we started praying
  • 00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:04.140
  • that the breath of God would
  • 00:21:04.140 --> 00:21:06.050
  • fill his lungs.
  • 00:21:06.050 --> 00:21:07.190
  • And as I look back in that room,
  • 00:21:07.190 --> 00:21:09.050
  • I saw two angels standing there,
  • 00:21:09.050 --> 00:21:11.150
  • just from floor to ceiling.
  • 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:14.240
  • And I knew that God was saying
  • 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:16.130
  • at that point that John is gonna
  • 00:21:16.130 --> 00:21:18.100
  • be fine.
  • 00:21:18.100 --> 00:21:19.050
  • And when I turned back around,
  • 00:21:19.050 --> 00:21:20.040
  • all of a sudden, John's eyes are
  • 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:21.110
  • open.
  • 00:21:21.110 --> 00:21:22.030
  • He grabbed my hand.
  • 00:21:22.030 --> 00:21:22.270
  • And I go, "Man, we're gonna keep
  • 00:21:22.270 --> 00:21:24.080
  • praying."
  • 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:25.020
  • - Samuel: Well, Pastor Jason,
  • 00:21:25.020 --> 00:21:25.260
  • help me out here.
  • 00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:26.200
  • And again, as I'm--as many in
  • 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:28.150
  • the audience know, I'm an
  • 00:21:28.150 --> 00:21:29.220
  • evangelical Trekkie.
  • 00:21:29.220 --> 00:21:30.270
  • So I'm a faith and science kind
  • 00:21:30.270 --> 00:21:32.110
  • of guy.
  • 00:21:32.110 --> 00:21:33.070
  • If he's brain dead for an hour,
  • 00:21:33.070 --> 00:21:35.110
  • my friend, logic and science
  • 00:21:35.110 --> 00:21:37.050
  • would dictate the fact that he
  • 00:21:37.050 --> 00:21:38.170
  • would--if he would come back to
  • 00:21:38.170 --> 00:21:40.040
  • life, he would be in a
  • 00:21:40.040 --> 00:21:41.120
  • vegetative state.
  • 00:21:41.120 --> 00:21:42.050
  • And he--you prayed--
  • 00:21:42.050 --> 00:21:43.180
  • - Jason: So we prayed for
  • 00:21:43.180 --> 00:21:44.090
  • breath and then we said, "Lord,
  • 00:21:44.090 --> 00:21:45.100
  • the same creative power that you
  • 00:21:45.100 --> 00:21:47.080
  • used to create this earth, we're
  • 00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:48.280
  • praying that you would recreate
  • 00:21:48.280 --> 00:21:50.120
  • his brain."
  • 00:21:50.120 --> 00:21:51.110
  • And in my mind's eye, I saw
  • 00:21:52.280 --> 00:21:55.280
  • just, like, millions of colors
  • 00:21:55.280 --> 00:21:58.060
  • coming down.
  • 00:21:58.060 --> 00:21:59.000
  • And it was like God was just
  • 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:00.080
  • going, "Ztt, ztt," putting his
  • 00:22:00.080 --> 00:22:01.130
  • brain back together again.
  • 00:22:01.130 --> 00:22:02.100
  • When that was finished, he
  • 00:22:02.100 --> 00:22:03.150
  • opened his eyes and came off the
  • 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:05.060
  • bed, grabbed my hand, and went
  • 00:22:05.060 --> 00:22:06.210
  • back--
  • 00:22:06.210 --> 00:22:08.040
  • - Samuel: Stop, stop, stop.
  • 00:22:08.040 --> 00:22:08.240
  • Go back, go back, go back, go
  • 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:09.150
  • back, go back.
  • 00:22:09.150 --> 00:22:10.090
  • Stop, stop.
  • 00:22:10.090 --> 00:22:12.080
  • I never heard this part of the
  • 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:13.010
  • story.
  • 00:22:13.010 --> 00:22:13.200
  • Hold on a second.
  • 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:14.180
  • He came off what?
  • 00:22:14.180 --> 00:22:16.010
  • - Jason: He came off the bed.
  • 00:22:16.010 --> 00:22:16.250
  • I mean, out of--
  • 00:22:16.250 --> 00:22:17.200
  • - Samuel: You mean, like,
  • 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:18.090
  • months later, a year later?
  • 00:22:18.090 --> 00:22:19.050
  • - Jason: This was about 3 hours
  • 00:22:19.050 --> 00:22:20.190
  • later.
  • 00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:21.250
  • And from that moment forward--
  • 00:22:21.250 --> 00:22:23.100
  • - Samuel: Stop.
  • 00:22:23.100 --> 00:22:25.060
  • Stop!
  • 00:22:25.060 --> 00:22:26.160
  • Para--pare.
  • 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:28.170
  • - Jason: I don't know what--
  • 00:22:28.170 --> 00:22:30.070
  • - Samuel: That's stop.
  • 00:22:30.070 --> 00:22:30.290
  • - Jason: Okay, all right.
  • 00:22:30.290 --> 00:22:31.210
  • Ha, ha.
  • 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:32.250
  • - Samuel: He was brain dead?
  • 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:34.070
  • - Jason: Yeah.
  • 00:22:34.070 --> 00:22:35.000
  • - Samuel: Physically dead.
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  • Pulse dead, brain dead.
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  • No brain activity.
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  • You begin to pray.
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  • Mama prayed.
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  • Pastors pray.
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  • You still have an audience.
  • 00:22:42.120 --> 00:22:43.250
  • And he gets off the bed
  • 00:22:43.250 --> 00:22:45.010
  • in a matter of hours?
  • 00:22:45.010 --> 00:22:46.080
  • - Jason: He didn't climb off
  • 00:22:46.080 --> 00:22:47.020
  • but he--I mean, he lifted his
  • 00:22:47.020 --> 00:22:48.250
  • head off, opened his eyes,
  • 00:22:48.250 --> 00:22:50.180
  • squeezed my hand.
  • 00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:51.230
  • And from that point forward, we
  • 00:22:51.230 --> 00:22:53.170
  • knew God was saying, "He is
  • 00:22:53.170 --> 00:22:54.150
  • gonna be just fine."
  • 00:22:55.010 --> 00:22:58.010
  • And you could see--when he
  • 00:22:58.190 --> 00:23:01.210
  • opened his eyes, you could see
  • 00:23:01.210 --> 00:23:03.200
  • he recognized.
  • 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:05.020
  • I mean, he saw the pastors in
  • 00:23:05.020 --> 00:23:06.180
  • the room.
  • 00:23:06.180 --> 00:23:07.130
  • And from that point forward, I
  • 00:23:07.130 --> 00:23:08.140
  • was with him for probably about
  • 00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:10.110
  • 12 hours a day, right by his
  • 00:23:10.110 --> 00:23:11.240
  • bedside, saying, "Okay, we are
  • 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:12.240
  • gonna believe that God is gonna
  • 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:14.170
  • do this miracle."
  • 00:23:14.170 --> 00:23:15.160
  • And the doctors will tell you,
  • 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.040
  • it was not easy sledding from
  • 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:19.000
  • that moment.
  • 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.010
  • But every time something would
  • 00:23:20.010 --> 00:23:21.210
  • come up, we just began to pray.
  • 00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:22.250
  • Like, his muscles were exploding
  • 00:23:22.250 --> 00:23:24.020
  • inside of him.
  • 00:23:24.020 --> 00:23:25.020
  • He had--I mean, you listen to
  • 00:23:25.020 --> 00:23:26.260
  • the doctors' reports and they
  • 00:23:26.260 --> 00:23:28.030
  • explain this whole miracle.
  • 00:23:28.030 --> 00:23:29.290
  • And there is nothing to be said
  • 00:23:29.290 --> 00:23:31.160
  • other than what God did was an
  • 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.030
  • incredible miracle.
  • 00:23:33.030 --> 00:23:34.060
  • - Samuel: And bless God.
  • 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:36.110
  • And we're gonna hear from John
  • 00:23:36.110 --> 00:23:38.140
  • in a second.
  • 00:23:38.140 --> 00:23:39.220
  • But if God did it for John,
  • 00:23:39.220 --> 00:23:41.280
  • if God did it for Joyce Smith,
  • 00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:43.030
  • if God answered the prayers of
  • 00:23:43.030 --> 00:23:44.030
  • Pastor Jason Noble, can God do
  • 00:23:44.030 --> 00:23:47.010
  • it for any person and every
  • 00:23:47.010 --> 00:23:48.030
  • person right now watching this
  • 00:23:48.030 --> 00:23:49.030
  • program?
  • 00:23:49.030 --> 00:23:49.280
  • - Jason: One hundred percent.
  • 00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:50.190
  • One hundred percent.
  • 00:23:50.190 --> 00:23:51.110
  • And I feel like God is saying to
  • 00:23:51.110 --> 00:23:52.190
  • somebody out there, they're
  • 00:23:52.190 --> 00:23:53.230
  • facing a difficulty like they
  • 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:55.120
  • couldn't even imagine.
  • 00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:56.150
  • - Samuel: I want you to speak
  • 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:57.060
  • right now and right--we're gonna
  • 00:23:57.060 --> 00:23:58.120
  • bypass the program,
  • 00:23:58.120 --> 00:24:00.080
  • the bureaucracy, right now.
  • 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:01.150
  • There's an anointing here.
  • 00:24:01.150 --> 00:24:02.270
  • Listen, your testimony--I shared
  • 00:24:02.270 --> 00:24:05.000
  • that testimony live in front of
  • 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.270
  • 15.000 college, high school
  • 00:24:06.270 --> 00:24:09.160
  • students in Knoxville,
  • 00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.260
  • Tennessee, and literally we saw
  • 00:24:10.260 --> 00:24:13.050
  • an awakening, just a move of
  • 00:24:13.050 --> 00:24:14.220
  • God.
  • 00:24:14.220 --> 00:24:15.130
  • Your testimony has changed the
  • 00:24:15.130 --> 00:24:17.120
  • world.
  • 00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:18.090
  • And we're gonna hear from him in
  • 00:24:18.090 --> 00:24:19.180
  • a second.
  • 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:20.210
  • But I want you to speak into the
  • 00:24:20.210 --> 00:24:21.130
  • camera.
  • 00:24:21.130 --> 00:24:22.010
  • There's someone believing, just
  • 00:24:22.010 --> 00:24:23.130
  • like the Shunammite woman, just
  • 00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:24.180
  • like Joyce Smith, that God gave
  • 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:26.110
  • them a miracle in a promise and
  • 00:24:26.110 --> 00:24:27.270
  • it seems right now that promise
  • 00:24:27.270 --> 00:24:29.100
  • may be dead.
  • 00:24:29.100 --> 00:24:30.030
  • - Jason: One hundred percent.
  • 00:24:30.030 --> 00:24:30.270
  • - Samuel: It may look like your
  • 00:24:30.270 --> 00:24:31.200
  • promise has gone.
  • 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.100
  • Whatever happened to the dream?
  • 00:24:33.100 --> 00:24:34.230
  • And it could be a--it could be
  • 00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:35.250
  • someone who's suffering an
  • 00:24:35.250 --> 00:24:36.270
  • illness.
  • 00:24:36.270 --> 00:24:37.240
  • It could be a marriage that's
  • 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.010
  • falling apart.
  • 00:24:39.010 --> 00:24:40.130
  • It could be children that God
  • 00:24:40.130 --> 00:24:41.280
  • gave you and now you find your
  • 00:24:41.280 --> 00:24:42.280
  • children not necessarily
  • 00:24:42.280 --> 00:24:44.000
  • physically dead but spiritually
  • 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:45.050
  • dead.
  • 00:24:45.050 --> 00:24:46.200
  • And right now they find
  • 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:47.140
  • themselves without any spiritual
  • 00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:48.250
  • pulse, without any prophetic and
  • 00:24:48.250 --> 00:24:50.250
  • biblical and Christ-induced
  • 00:24:50.250 --> 00:24:52.270
  • activity.
  • 00:24:52.270 --> 00:24:54.010
  • But you're bearing witness here.
  • 00:24:54.010 --> 00:24:55.220
  • Not only you, we're gonna get
  • 00:24:55.220 --> 00:24:57.000
  • into the doctors' written
  • 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.090
  • journal narrative that
  • 00:24:58.090 --> 00:24:59.270
  • blew me away.
  • 00:24:59.270 --> 00:25:01.120
  • But we're saying right now in
  • 00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:02.120
  • the name of Jesus,
  • 00:25:02.120 --> 00:25:03.180
  • all things are possible.
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:04.160
  • - Joyce: Yes, amen.
  • 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:05.110
  • - Samuel: All things are
  • 00:25:05.110 --> 00:25:06.080
  • possible.
  • 00:25:06.080 --> 00:25:07.010
  • - Joyce: They are.
  • 00:25:07.010 --> 00:25:07.260
  • - Samuel: So speak into the
  • 00:25:07.260 --> 00:25:08.230
  • camera.
  • 00:25:08.230 --> 00:25:09.250
  • Pray right now for everyone who
  • 00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:10.280
  • needs a miracle, for every
  • 00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:12.140
  • person who needs life to
  • 00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:14.220
  • inundate and saturate their
  • 00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:16.250
  • circumstances in their family.
  • 00:25:16.250 --> 00:25:18.190
  • Pray right now in Jesus' name.
  • 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:20.030
  • - Jason: Jesus, we thank you
  • 00:25:20.030 --> 00:25:22.010
  • the God that brings healing.
  • 00:25:24.190 --> 00:25:25.150
  • Lord, you are
  • 00:25:25.150 --> 00:25:26.170
  • a miracle-working God.
  • 00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:27.110
  • And Lord, as I boarded the plane
  • 00:25:27.110 --> 00:25:28.280
  • this morning, God, I felt like
  • 00:25:28.280 --> 00:25:30.130
  • you told me that there are
  • 00:25:30.130 --> 00:25:31.080
  • people that are listening to
  • 00:25:31.080 --> 00:25:32.200
  • this show who need
  • 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:33.210
  • a desperate miracle.
  • 00:25:33.210 --> 00:25:35.210
  • And you know them,
  • 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:36.120
  • you've heard it.
  • 00:25:36.120 --> 00:25:37.210
  • Lord, thank you, Jesus, that you
  • 00:25:37.210 --> 00:25:38.170
  • And God, I pray you'd encourage,
  • 00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:41.190
  • that you'd strengthen, that the
  • 00:25:41.190 --> 00:25:43.100
  • Holy Spirit would just fall upon
  • 00:25:43.100 --> 00:25:44.130
  • them right now.
  • 00:25:44.130 --> 00:25:45.170
  • And God, I thank you that the
  • 00:25:45.170 --> 00:25:46.200
  • miracle that we see here is
  • 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:48.120
  • gonna be a miracle that
  • 00:25:48.120 --> 00:25:50.020
  • is--happens time and time again.
  • 00:25:50.020 --> 00:25:51.270
  • And Lord, we thank you for what
  • 00:25:51.270 --> 00:25:53.180
  • you're gonna do.
  • 00:25:53.180 --> 00:25:54.210
  • - Samuel: We speak Resurrection
  • 00:25:54.210 --> 00:25:56.090
  • power.
  • 00:25:56.090 --> 00:25:57.010
  • - Jason: Yeah, Resurrection
  • 00:25:57.010 --> 00:25:57.210
  • power.
  • 00:25:57.210 --> 00:25:58.050
  • - Samuel: Resurrection power.
  • 00:25:58.050 --> 00:25:58.290
  • The same spirit, the same
  • 00:25:58.290 --> 00:26:01.260
  • spirit.
  • 00:26:01.260 --> 00:26:02.280
  • The apostle Paul said it best.
  • 00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:03.280
  • The same spirit that resurrected
  • 00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:06.000
  • Jesus is the same spirit inside
  • 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.070
  • of us.
  • 00:26:08.070 --> 00:26:09.030
  • Mom, I need you, before we just
  • 00:26:09.030 --> 00:26:10.140
  • move over.
  • 00:26:10.140 --> 00:26:11.100
  • I need you right now--you have
  • 00:26:11.100 --> 00:26:12.140
  • an anointing and a grace as a
  • 00:26:12.140 --> 00:26:13.140
  • mother.
  • 00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:14.110
  • And there are families right now
  • 00:26:14.110 --> 00:26:16.050
  • struggling.
  • 00:26:16.050 --> 00:26:17.000
  • And, as I alluded to previously,
  • 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.280
  • it could be physical but I sense
  • 00:26:18.280 --> 00:26:21.170
  • such a spiritual lack of pulse
  • 00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:24.150
  • and of prophetic destiny
  • 00:26:24.150 --> 00:26:27.080
  • activity.
  • 00:26:27.080 --> 00:26:28.030
  • So many of our children are
  • 00:26:28.030 --> 00:26:28.290
  • dying.
  • 00:26:28.290 --> 00:26:30.030
  • And to a great degree, I believe
  • 00:26:30.030 --> 00:26:31.220
  • the enemy is celebrating
  • 00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:34.010
  • the premature death of destinies
  • 00:26:34.010 --> 00:26:36.080
  • and purposes upon an entire
  • 00:26:36.080 --> 00:26:37.290
  • generation.
  • 00:26:37.290 --> 00:26:39.040
  • He represents a generation.
  • 00:26:39.040 --> 00:26:40.260
  • Do you know how many times
  • 00:26:40.260 --> 00:26:41.240
  • the enemy has declared
  • 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:42.230
  • his generation to be gone?
  • 00:26:42.230 --> 00:26:44.150
  • How many times the spirit of
  • 00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:45.270
  • Herod has declared that
  • 00:26:45.270 --> 00:26:47.000
  • generation will not grow up
  • 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:47.260
  • and change the world?
  • 00:26:47.260 --> 00:26:49.010
  • So I want you right now with the
  • 00:26:49.010 --> 00:26:50.080
  • grace--you raised your volume.
  • 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.000
  • I mean, how dare you go into
  • 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.100
  • a public setting, in a hospital,
  • 00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:58.240
  • and touch your son, and raise
  • 00:26:58.290 --> 00:27:02.010
  • your voice where everyone in
  • 00:27:02.010 --> 00:27:03.010
  • the emergency room corridor,
  • 00:27:03.010 --> 00:27:04.160
  • not just that room.
  • 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:05.190
  • I read the story.
  • 00:27:05.190 --> 00:27:06.220
  • Everyone in the emergency room
  • 00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:07.270
  • heard you praying.
  • 00:27:07.270 --> 00:27:09.250
  • I want you right now just to
  • 00:27:09.250 --> 00:27:11.260
  • pray for every mom, every father
  • 00:27:11.260 --> 00:27:13.220
  • right now, who have children who
  • 00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:15.170
  • may be fighting physical illness
  • 00:27:15.170 --> 00:27:17.090
  • or bore--even more, spiritual
  • 00:27:17.090 --> 00:27:19.170
  • illness and spiritual death.
  • 00:27:19.170 --> 00:27:20.230
  • Pray right now in Jesus' name.
  • 00:27:20.230 --> 00:27:22.130
  • - Joyce: Our precious heavenly
  • 00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:23.090
  • Father, we thank you that we can
  • 00:27:23.090 --> 00:27:25.020
  • come before your throne of
  • 00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:26.030
  • each and every prayer, Lord,
  • 00:27:28.030 --> 00:27:29.160
  • that we have.
  • 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:30.220
  • Lord, that nothing is impossible
  • 00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:32.050
  • with you, Lord Jesus.
  • 00:27:32.050 --> 00:27:33.080
  • That you are still in the
  • 00:27:33.080 --> 00:27:34.180
  • miracle-working business,
  • 00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:36.130
  • Lord Jesus.
  • 00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:37.110
  • Lord, that you still raise
  • 00:27:37.110 --> 00:27:38.270
  • Lord, you still restore
  • 00:27:40.010 --> 00:27:40.280
  • families.
  • 00:27:40.280 --> 00:27:41.270
  • Lord, you still restore our
  • 00:27:41.270 --> 00:27:43.190
  • lives to us, Lord, and you do it
  • 00:27:43.190 --> 00:27:45.230
  • better than we could possibly
  • 00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:47.000
  • dream.
  • 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:47.290
  • So Lord, we stand and we thank
  • 00:27:47.290 --> 00:27:49.180
  • you for that right now.
  • 00:27:49.180 --> 00:27:50.270
  • Lord, there's a dying and
  • 00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:52.110
  • hurting world out there.
  • 00:27:52.110 --> 00:27:53.140
  • There's parents, Lord, that need
  • 00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:54.280
  • to know that you are Jehovah,
  • 00:27:54.280 --> 00:27:57.130
  • Jehovah-God.
  • 00:27:57.130 --> 00:27:59.070
  • Lord, that you do the impossible
  • 00:27:59.070 --> 00:28:01.190
  • and that you love us, Lord.
  • 00:28:01.190 --> 00:28:03.020
  • And you pour that grace and love
  • 00:28:03.020 --> 00:28:04.170
  • and mercy out upon us, Lord.
  • 00:28:04.170 --> 00:28:06.030
  • Lord, that they can come to you.
  • 00:28:06.030 --> 00:28:07.220
  • That you aren't a respecter of
  • 00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:09.090
  • person but, Lord, that you come
  • 00:28:09.090 --> 00:28:12.020
  • and you do and you give us
  • 00:28:12.020 --> 00:28:14.010
  • the things that we ask for.
  • 00:28:14.010 --> 00:28:15.260
  • Lord, you do it because
  • 00:28:15.260 --> 00:28:16.290
  • you love us.
  • 00:28:16.290 --> 00:28:17.200
  • And so, Lord Jesus, for whoever
  • 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.070
  • is out there, Lord, right now
  • 00:28:19.070 --> 00:28:20.250
  • that has a child that needs
  • 00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:22.190
  • a new heart or, Lord, it needs
  • 00:28:22.190 --> 00:28:24.210
  • a new thought process in their
  • 00:28:24.210 --> 00:28:27.200
  • life.
  • 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:28.240
  • Lord, whether it's drugs,
  • 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.290
  • whether it's alcohol, whether
  • 00:28:29.290 --> 00:28:31.060
  • it's addiction, whatever it is
  • 00:28:31.060 --> 00:28:33.030
  • that that child needs, Lord,
  • 00:28:33.030 --> 00:28:34.290
  • that you are the answer.
  • 00:28:34.290 --> 00:28:36.270
  • You are the answer and nothing
  • 00:28:36.270 --> 00:28:38.190
  • is impossible with you,
  • 00:28:38.190 --> 00:28:40.080
  • Lord Jesus.
  • 00:28:40.080 --> 00:28:41.030
  • So Lord, we ask, Lord, for these
  • 00:28:41.030 --> 00:28:43.060
  • people, Lord, that are hurting
  • 00:28:43.060 --> 00:28:44.200
  • and they don't know where else
  • 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:45.200
  • to turn, that there's a God that
  • 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.100
  • we can turn to at any time,
  • 00:28:47.100 --> 00:28:49.220
  • at any moment, and he's there
  • 00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:51.270
  • to answer our prayers, Lord.
  • 00:28:51.270 --> 00:28:53.190
  • We just thank you and we praise
  • 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:55.270
  • you, Lord, that whoever it is
  • 00:28:55.270 --> 00:28:57.230
  • out there, Lord, right now that
  • 00:28:57.230 --> 00:28:59.020
  • needs you, Lord Jesus, that you
  • 00:28:59.020 --> 00:29:01.000
  • are there.
  • 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.220
  • Your Word says that you stick
  • 00:29:02.220 --> 00:29:03.190
  • closer than a brother, Lord
  • 00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:05.040
  • Jesus, that if we ask for bread,
  • 00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:06.280
  • you don't give us stone.
  • 00:29:06.280 --> 00:29:08.130
  • Lord Jesus, that you answer and
  • 00:29:08.130 --> 00:29:10.040
  • all we need to do, Lord, is ask
  • 00:29:10.040 --> 00:29:12.010
  • and stand in faith, believing,
  • 00:29:12.010 --> 00:29:13.270
  • knowing, Lord, that you
  • 00:29:13.270 --> 00:29:15.180
  • give our next breath.
  • 00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:17.160
  • You have our next heartbeat,
  • 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.120
  • Lord.
  • 00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:19.050
  • And we thank you for that.
  • 00:29:19.050 --> 00:29:20.100
  • And we give you praise and we
  • 00:29:20.100 --> 00:29:21.170
  • give you glory, amen.
  • 00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:23.130
  • - Samuel: In Jesus' name.
  • 00:29:23.130 --> 00:29:24.100
  • Praise the Lord.
  • 00:29:27.070 --> 00:29:30.070
  • - Samuel: Listen carefully.
  • 00:29:30.070 --> 00:29:31.070
  • There's such an anointing here,
  • 00:29:31.070 --> 00:29:32.070
  • the grace of God,
  • 00:29:32.070 --> 00:29:33.140
  • the Spirit of Christ.
  • 00:29:33.140 --> 00:29:34.160
  • Don't bury your miracle.
  • 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.090
  • Whatever God has placed in
  • 00:29:36.090 --> 00:29:39.010
  • your hand, whatever promise,
  • 00:29:39.010 --> 00:29:40.010
  • just like Joyce Smith with John
  • 00:29:40.010 --> 00:29:42.040
  • Smith, just like the Shunammite
  • 00:29:42.040 --> 00:29:43.240
  • woman of 2 Kings, the prophet
  • 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.050
  • Elisha, if God gave you that
  • 00:29:45.050 --> 00:29:47.080
  • dream, if he gave you that
  • 00:29:47.080 --> 00:29:48.100
  • vision, if he gave you that
  • 00:29:48.100 --> 00:29:49.180
  • child, if he gave you that
  • 00:29:49.180 --> 00:29:50.200
  • marriage.
  • 00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:51.170
  • It may look dead right now but
  • 00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:53.080
  • don't bury your miracle, because
  • 00:29:53.080 --> 00:29:54.220
  • we speak Resurrection power
  • 00:29:54.220 --> 00:29:56.210
  • right now in the name of Jesus.
  • 00:29:56.210 --> 00:29:58.020
  • We speak life right now.
  • 00:29:58.020 --> 00:29:59.260
  • Not even tomorrow, right now
  • 00:30:00.040 --> 00:30:03.040
  • in Jesus' name.
  • 00:30:03.040 --> 00:30:04.040
  • And I am believing and
  • 00:30:04.040 --> 00:30:05.120
  • declaring, John, we're about to
  • 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:06.160
  • hear from you, 'cause you're the
  • 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:07.110
  • highlight, baby.
  • 00:30:07.110 --> 00:30:08.080
  • You're it.
  • 00:30:08.080 --> 00:30:09.090
  • But in Jesus' name, your
  • 00:30:09.090 --> 00:30:10.140
  • generation will not die.
  • 00:30:10.140 --> 00:30:13.000
  • Your generation will live for
  • 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:14.170
  • the glory of Christ.
  • 00:30:14.170 --> 00:30:17.160
  • And your generation will change
  • 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.210
  • the world.
  • 00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:19.150
  • - Joyce: Yes, amen.
  • 00:30:19.150 --> 00:30:20.140
  • - Samuel: Now, Joyce and Jason,
  • 00:30:20.140 --> 00:30:21.210
  • I wanna hear from you about Kent
  • 00:30:21.210 --> 00:30:22.190
  • before we go to John.
  • 00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:23.220
  • So, the doctor, Kent Sutterer.
  • 00:30:23.220 --> 00:30:25.180
  • He has a journal and he writes
  • 00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:27.150
  • what took place.
  • 00:30:27.150 --> 00:30:29.260
  • Now, I'm gonna be honest.
  • 00:30:29.260 --> 00:30:31.070
  • If I'm in the medical profession
  • 00:30:31.070 --> 00:30:33.050
  • and I have to write a narrative
  • 00:30:33.050 --> 00:30:35.180
  • of what took place for the
  • 00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:36.160
  • purposes of liability, right, I
  • 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.280
  • may be open to the possibility
  • 00:30:38.280 --> 00:30:41.020
  • of writing the following.
  • 00:30:41.020 --> 00:30:42.180
  • "After engaging necessary
  • 00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:44.140
  • medical tools, resources, and
  • 00:30:44.140 --> 00:30:45.280
  • the apparatus, this boy
  • 00:30:45.280 --> 00:30:47.220
  • subsequently came back to life
  • 00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:49.200
  • via the conduit of all of our
  • 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.230
  • efforts."
  • 00:30:50.230 --> 00:30:51.260
  • That's not what he wrote.
  • 00:30:51.260 --> 00:30:54.120
  • What did he write when they
  • 00:30:54.120 --> 00:30:55.280
  • asked him, "How did that boy
  • 00:30:55.280 --> 00:30:57.070
  • come back to life?"
  • 00:30:57.070 --> 00:30:58.120
  • This is the doctor, certified
  • 00:30:58.120 --> 00:30:59.130
  • doctor, and respected, well
  • 00:30:59.130 --> 00:31:00.180
  • respected, well recognized.
  • 00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:02.050
  • What did he write?
  • 00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:05.120
  • - Joyce: He wrote that when he
  • 00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:08.010
  • was getting ready to call for
  • 00:31:08.010 --> 00:31:10.070
  • time of death, what was it--how
  • 00:31:10.070 --> 00:31:13.070
  • he used--if he was gonna write a
  • 00:31:13.070 --> 00:31:14.230
  • rhythm of how it was, boy died,
  • 00:31:15.020 --> 00:31:18.020
  • mother prayed, boy came back to
  • 00:31:18.020 --> 00:31:19.010
  • life.
  • 00:31:19.010 --> 00:31:20.090
  • - Jason: An algorithm.
  • 00:31:20.090 --> 00:31:21.080
  • An algorithm of how it played
  • 00:31:21.080 --> 00:31:22.060
  • out.
  • 00:31:22.130 --> 00:31:25.130
  • - Joyce: And he went around to
  • 00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:26.190
  • the people in the room that was
  • 00:31:26.190 --> 00:31:28.120
  • there and started asking 'em,
  • 00:31:28.120 --> 00:31:30.170
  • "Okay, is this the sequence this
  • 00:31:30.170 --> 00:31:32.020
  • happened 'cause I want this to
  • 00:31:32.020 --> 00:31:33.090
  • be accurate?"
  • 00:31:33.090 --> 00:31:34.150
  • And every one of 'em said,
  • 00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:35.180
  • "Yes."
  • 00:31:35.180 --> 00:31:36.140
  • - Samuel: In one of the
  • 00:31:36.140 --> 00:31:37.040
  • interviews, in one of the
  • 00:31:37.040 --> 00:31:37.290
  • secular news stories, his quote
  • 00:31:37.290 --> 00:31:39.230
  • was, "Boy died, mother prayed,"
  • 00:31:41.030 --> 00:31:44.030
  • and this is the quote, and feel
  • 00:31:44.030 --> 00:31:45.230
  • free to do your Google due
  • 00:31:45.230 --> 00:31:46.190
  • diligence.
  • 00:31:46.190 --> 00:31:47.180
  • "Boy died, Mama prayed," this is
  • 00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:49.230
  • his quote, not mine, "the Holy
  • 00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:51.150
  • Spirit brought him back to
  • 00:31:51.150 --> 00:31:52.210
  • life."
  • 00:31:52.210 --> 00:31:53.100
  • - Joyce: Yes, that's it.
  • 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:57.080
  • I'll tell you--
  • 00:31:57.080 --> 00:31:57.280
  • - Samuel: The Holy Spirit
  • 00:31:57.280 --> 00:31:58.180
  • brought him back to life.
  • 00:31:58.180 --> 00:31:59.260
  • If God did it for John Smith,
  • 00:31:59.260 --> 00:32:01.290
  • God can do it for you right now,
  • 00:32:01.290 --> 00:32:04.210
  • this very hour in your life.
  • 00:32:04.210 --> 00:32:06.080
  • - Joyce: What was interesting
  • 00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:07.220
  • about this too is how God
  • 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:09.200
  • put these things together.
  • 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:11.070
  • Two days before John fell in the
  • 00:32:11.070 --> 00:32:12.280
  • ice, the firefighters had
  • 00:32:12.280 --> 00:32:15.080
  • just finished their cold water
  • 00:32:15.080 --> 00:32:17.240
  • retrieval training in the same
  • 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.210
  • place where John went down.
  • 00:32:19.210 --> 00:32:21.200
  • - Samuel: Stop!
  • 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:22.220
  • Stop.
  • 00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:24.050
  • You're messing this up for me.
  • 00:32:24.050 --> 00:32:25.180
  • - Jason: Tapestry of miracles.
  • 00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:26.220
  • - Samuel: What?
  • 00:32:26.220 --> 00:32:27.170
  • The same place where he went
  • 00:32:27.170 --> 00:32:29.080
  • under, the fire department just
  • 00:32:29.080 --> 00:32:31.200
  • had their training, their
  • 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.150
  • certification, for cold water
  • 00:32:33.150 --> 00:32:35.070
  • retrieval in the same area?
  • 00:32:35.070 --> 00:32:38.030
  • - Joyce: Yes.
  • 00:32:38.030 --> 00:32:38.280
  • - Jason: If you look at that--
  • 00:32:38.280 --> 00:32:40.010
  • - Samuel: You've gotta be
  • 00:32:40.010 --> 00:32:40.200
  • kidding me?
  • 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:41.100
  • - Joyce: No.
  • 00:32:41.100 --> 00:32:42.000
  • - Jason: If you look at the
  • 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:42.230
  • lake, the lake is usually about
  • 00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:43.290
  • 50 feet deep all throughout.
  • 00:32:43.290 --> 00:32:46.150
  • And there's mud on the bottom so
  • 00:32:46.150 --> 00:32:47.220
  • they would have been reaching
  • 00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:48.180
  • down.
  • 00:32:48.180 --> 00:32:49.050
  • They would not have been able to
  • 00:32:49.050 --> 00:32:49.270
  • find him.
  • 00:32:49.270 --> 00:32:50.230
  • Where he went down, it was 10
  • 00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:51.190
  • feet deep with rock bottom.
  • 00:32:51.190 --> 00:32:53.250
  • And they were able to go right
  • 00:32:53.250 --> 00:32:54.200
  • in.
  • 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:55.120
  • God spoke to the firefighter--
  • 00:32:55.120 --> 00:32:56.150
  • - Samuel: Wait a minute, stop.
  • 00:32:56.150 --> 00:32:57.070
  • There's something I read
  • 00:32:57.070 --> 00:32:57.260
  • likewise.
  • 00:32:57.260 --> 00:32:58.150
  • There's something happened when
  • 00:32:58.150 --> 00:32:59.120
  • they were rescuing the other
  • 00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:00.120
  • children that went under but
  • 00:33:00.120 --> 00:33:01.070
  • then when they couldn't find
  • 00:33:01.070 --> 00:33:03.050
  • him--tell us the story.
  • 00:33:03.050 --> 00:33:04.290
  • - Jason: So the first responder
  • 00:33:04.290 --> 00:33:05.270
  • who--he heard God speak to him
  • 00:33:05.270 --> 00:33:08.190
  • verbally and say,
  • 00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:09.230
  • "Take one step over."
  • 00:33:09.230 --> 00:33:11.140
  • And when he took one step over,
  • 00:33:11.140 --> 00:33:13.050
  • they reached the pull-down and
  • 00:33:13.050 --> 00:33:14.180
  • were able to pull John up.
  • 00:33:14.180 --> 00:33:16.060
  • I mean, it was just a tapestry
  • 00:33:16.060 --> 00:33:17.190
  • of miracles.
  • 00:33:17.190 --> 00:33:19.010
  • - Samuel: Talking about
  • 00:33:19.010 --> 00:33:20.160
  • miracles from heaven, indeed.
  • 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.100
  • How has this impacted the local
  • 00:33:25.140 --> 00:33:26.130
  • church?
  • 00:33:26.130 --> 00:33:27.090
  • You pastor in Assembly of God
  • 00:33:27.090 --> 00:33:28.170
  • Church.
  • 00:33:28.170 --> 00:33:29.080
  • - Jason: Yeah, pastor in
  • 00:33:29.080 --> 00:33:29.270
  • Assembly of God, the local
  • 00:33:29.270 --> 00:33:30.200
  • church.
  • 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.080
  • - Samuel: Saint Charles?
  • 00:33:31.080 --> 00:33:32.010
  • - Jason: In Saint--yup,
  • 00:33:32.010 --> 00:33:32.230
  • Saint Peters, Missouri.
  • 00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:33.140
  • The local church has been
  • 00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:34.080
  • set on fire.
  • 00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:35.060
  • We have an hour long documentary
  • 00:33:35.060 --> 00:33:37.040
  • on our website about this story
  • 00:33:37.040 --> 00:33:38.230
  • where the doctors are actually
  • 00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:40.000
  • telling the story from their
  • 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.120
  • perspective.
  • 00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:42.130
  • And to hear the story, I mean,
  • 00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:43.190
  • the--a miracle is John walked
  • 00:33:43.190 --> 00:33:45.050
  • out of the hospital
  • 00:33:45.050 --> 00:33:46.000
  • That's the miracle.
  • 00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:50.220
  • And he has not--I mean, to watch
  • 00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.270
  • that play out, he has not had to
  • 00:33:52.270 --> 00:33:54.070
  • have any physical therapy.
  • 00:33:54.070 --> 00:33:55.270
  • He has not had to have--I mean,
  • 00:33:55.270 --> 00:33:57.250
  • there--he is a clean bill of
  • 00:33:57.250 --> 00:33:59.110
  • health, playing basketball.
  • 00:33:59.110 --> 00:34:00.280
  • You know, he even went to
  • 00:34:00.280 --> 00:34:02.030
  • the optician and they go--they
  • 00:34:02.030 --> 00:34:04.020
  • looked in his eyes and they
  • 00:34:04.020 --> 00:34:04.270
  • said, "Anybody that's been under
  • 00:34:04.270 --> 00:34:06.080
  • water that long, you should have
  • 00:34:06.080 --> 00:34:07.230
  • blood vessels broken."
  • 00:34:07.230 --> 00:34:09.090
  • There was not one sign of it.
  • 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.000
  • So, since that point, we've had
  • 00:34:13.020 --> 00:34:16.020
  • stage 4 cancer healed, we had
  • 00:34:16.020 --> 00:34:17.180
  • probably 150 healings in our
  • 00:34:17.180 --> 00:34:19.050
  • church since this point.
  • 00:34:19.050 --> 00:34:21.160
  • Of God just setting people free.
  • 00:34:21.160 --> 00:34:23.060
  • Both boys on either side of John
  • 00:34:23.060 --> 00:34:24.190
  • in the hospital, one boy was
  • 00:34:24.190 --> 00:34:26.170
  • 3 years old, had the 'flu and
  • 00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:27.250
  • completely paralyzed.
  • 00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:29.230
  • Walked in and prayed for him.
  • 00:34:29.230 --> 00:34:30.240
  • Within an hour, 2 hours, he had
  • 00:34:30.240 --> 00:34:33.130
  • movement back in his leg.
  • 00:34:33.130 --> 00:34:35.020
  • He was healed.
  • 00:34:35.020 --> 00:34:35.260
  • Guy on the other side of the
  • 00:34:35.260 --> 00:34:36.200
  • room was healed.
  • 00:34:36.200 --> 00:34:37.290
  • - Samuel: What?
  • 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:38.160
  • The kids that were around him in
  • 00:34:38.160 --> 00:34:39.080
  • the hospital?
  • 00:34:39.080 --> 00:34:40.000
  • He experiences a miracle--
  • 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.100
  • - Jason: They all do too.
  • 00:34:43.110 --> 00:34:46.110
  • - Samuel: All right, John.
  • 00:34:52.040 --> 00:34:54.240
  • Ready?
  • 00:34:54.240 --> 00:34:56.060
  • John, why did God
  • 00:34:56.270 --> 00:34:59.270
  • spare your life?
  • 00:34:59.270 --> 00:35:02.080
  • Why are you alive today?
  • 00:35:02.080 --> 00:35:03.290
  • - John Smith: Jeremiah 29:11.
  • 00:35:03.290 --> 00:35:05.070
  • - Samuel: Jeremiah 29--
  • 00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:08.190
  • Jeremiah 29:11.
  • 00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:11.010
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:11.270
  • - John: He has a plan for me.
  • 00:35:11.270 --> 00:35:13.010
  • - Samuel: He has a plan for
  • 00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:13.210
  • you.
  • 00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:14.200
  • - John: My job is just sit back
  • 00:35:14.200 --> 00:35:15.240
  • and let him do the steering
  • 00:35:15.240 --> 00:35:17.010
  • and I'll follow.
  • 00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:18.200
  • - Samuel: I'm done.
  • 00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.280
  • - Jason: Amen.
  • 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.220
  • - Samuel: I mean, here he is,
  • 00:35:23.220 --> 00:35:25.090
  • Jeremiah 29:11, "The purpose
  • 00:35:25.090 --> 00:35:26.230
  • and the plans of God," indeed.
  • 00:35:26.230 --> 00:35:29.190
  • And you understand the grace and
  • 00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:31.050
  • the anointing that God has
  • 00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:33.140
  • placed upon you as a living,
  • 00:35:33.140 --> 00:35:34.180
  • walking, breathing testimony of
  • 00:35:34.180 --> 00:35:35.250
  • God's grace?
  • 00:35:35.250 --> 00:35:37.250
  • Ladies and gentlemen, again,
  • 00:35:37.250 --> 00:35:40.130
  • this is not hyperbole.
  • 00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:41.210
  • I grew up, what I have stated
  • 00:35:41.210 --> 00:35:44.080
  • previously.
  • 00:35:44.080 --> 00:35:45.190
  • I saw the pathetic and the
  • 00:35:45.190 --> 00:35:47.090
  • prophetic.
  • 00:35:47.090 --> 00:35:48.070
  • So I, you know, there are times
  • 00:35:48.070 --> 00:35:50.030
  • I heard things in church that I
  • 00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:51.170
  • doubted them.
  • 00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:52.290
  • And I saw so many things.
  • 00:35:52.290 --> 00:35:54.200
  • And I've seen both the fake and
  • 00:35:54.200 --> 00:35:56.010
  • the real.
  • 00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:56.280
  • So I'm more of a Thomas.
  • 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.240
  • I wanna see some sort of
  • 00:35:58.240 --> 00:36:00.060
  • evidence that it took place.
  • 00:36:00.060 --> 00:36:01.120
  • We have a living, breathing
  • 00:36:01.120 --> 00:36:03.150
  • testimony that this--but to
  • 00:36:03.150 --> 00:36:05.220
  • anyone, don't drink the
  • 00:36:05.220 --> 00:36:08.020
  • Kool-Aid.
  • 00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:09.070
  • If you ever hear a pastor say,
  • 00:36:09.070 --> 00:36:10.200
  • "God is no longer in the
  • 00:36:10.200 --> 00:36:11.210
  • miracle-working business," you
  • 00:36:11.210 --> 00:36:14.040
  • need to google John Smith.
  • 00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:16.270
  • - Jason: Yeah, miracle on ice.
  • 00:36:16.270 --> 00:36:19.210
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:36:19.210 --> 00:36:20.250
  • - Samuel: It's a miracle
  • 00:36:20.250 --> 00:36:22.100
  • indeed.
  • 00:36:22.100 --> 00:36:23.100
  • And then the subsequent miracles
  • 00:36:23.100 --> 00:36:24.140
  • that have taken place in your
  • 00:36:24.140 --> 00:36:25.210
  • ministry, in the church, in your
  • 00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:27.040
  • family, amazing indeed.
  • 00:36:27.040 --> 00:36:29.050
  • All things are possible.
  • 00:36:29.050 --> 00:36:30.170
  • Matthew 17, if you have faith as
  • 00:36:31.050 --> 00:36:34.050
  • much--as little as a mustard
  • 00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:35.210
  • seed, you will be able to speak
  • 00:36:35.210 --> 00:36:37.180
  • to that mountain to move from
  • 00:36:37.180 --> 00:36:38.230
  • here to there.
  • 00:36:38.230 --> 00:36:39.140
  • It will move.
  • 00:36:39.140 --> 00:36:40.060
  • And nothing, nothing
  • 00:36:40.060 --> 00:36:41.290
  • will be impossible.
  • 00:36:41.290 --> 00:36:43.120
  • All things are possible in
  • 00:36:43.120 --> 00:36:44.160
  • the name of Jesus.
  • 00:36:44.160 --> 00:36:46.040
  • But you have to believe.
  • 00:36:46.040 --> 00:36:47.120
  • Here we have living proof.
  • 00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:49.090
  • You are a walking testimony.
  • 00:36:49.090 --> 00:36:51.270
  • You are a walking testimony,
  • 00:36:51.270 --> 00:36:53.190
  • This is--you prayed.
  • 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.000
  • You and your husband prayed
  • 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.100
  • God gave you a son.
  • 00:37:02.170 --> 00:37:03.250
  • And it seemed that your miracle
  • 00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:05.030
  • died and your miracle came back
  • 00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:06.170
  • to life.
  • 00:37:06.170 --> 00:37:07.220
  • When heaven starts it,
  • 00:37:07.220 --> 00:37:09.160
  • hell cannot stop it.
  • 00:37:09.160 --> 00:37:10.260
  • - Joyce: Amen, amen!
  • 00:37:10.260 --> 00:37:13.220
  • Amen.
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  • - Samuel: I'll say that one
  • 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:15.180
  • more time for the hearing
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  • impaired.
  • 00:37:16.070 --> 00:37:16.250
  • When heaven starts it, hell
  • 00:37:16.250 --> 00:37:17.250
  • cannot stop it.
  • 00:37:17.250 --> 00:37:19.070
  • So whatever heaven has started
  • 00:37:19.070 --> 00:37:20.180
  • in your life, rejoice.
  • 00:37:20.180 --> 00:37:22.030
  • Again, I say rejoice.
  • 00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:23.210
  • Let's apply the Joyce Smith
  • 00:37:23.210 --> 00:37:25.210
  • principle.
  • 00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:26.160
  • Raise your volume,
  • 00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:27.230
  • raise your voice.
  • 00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:29.180
  • Affirm the promises of God.
  • 00:37:29.180 --> 00:37:31.040
  • Speak the promises of God upon
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  • all of your circumstances and
  • 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.250
  • you will see that everything
  • 00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:36.250
  • that heaven has promised you
  • 00:37:36.250 --> 00:37:37.290
  • will come to pass,
  • 00:37:37.290 --> 00:37:39.070
  • in the name of Jesus.
  • 00:37:39.070 --> 00:37:40.270
  • Joyce Smith, thank you for
  • 00:37:40.270 --> 00:37:42.090
  • praying and raising your voice.
  • 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:44.060
  • Pastor Jason, thank you for
  • 00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:45.170
  • praying with the addition of
  • 00:37:45.170 --> 00:37:46.210
  • five or six pastors and the
  • 00:37:46.210 --> 00:37:47.260
  • miracles that were seen.
  • 00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:48.280
  • And John Smith, you will do
  • 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.210
  • nothing less than change
  • 00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:52.130
  • the world.
  • 00:37:52.130 --> 00:37:53.180
  • One more time, the ministry of
  • 00:37:53.180 --> 00:37:55.230
  • Joyce, John, and Jason.
  • 00:37:55.230 --> 00:37:56.250
  • One more time, give God praise
  • 00:37:56.250 --> 00:37:57.250
  • for this amazing testimony.
  • 00:37:57.250 --> 00:38:00.070
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:38:00.070 --> 00:38:01.000
  • Bless the Lord, indeed.
  • 00:38:06.020 --> 00:38:07.150
  • And by the way, there is a
  • 00:38:07.150 --> 00:38:08.240
  • website that they can go to?
  • 00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:10.090
  • Please.
  • 00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:11.000
  • - Jason: Yeah, if they go to
  • 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:11.210
  • firstassemblychurch.org, they
  • 00:38:11.210 --> 00:38:12.190
  • can find the information.
  • 00:38:12.190 --> 00:38:14.000
  • Can I throw one other quick
  • 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:15.020
  • thing in?
  • 00:38:15.020 --> 00:38:15.200
  • - Samuel: Please.
  • 00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:16.100
  • - Jason: One of the principles
  • 00:38:16.100 --> 00:38:17.060
  • we've learned from this is
  • 00:38:17.060 --> 00:38:18.100
  • to always speak life.
  • 00:38:18.100 --> 00:38:19.240
  • We would not let death be spoken
  • 00:38:19.240 --> 00:38:21.030
  • in his room.
  • 00:38:21.030 --> 00:38:22.070
  • That was the job--that's what
  • 00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:23.280
  • we were on guard for.
  • 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:24.240
  • - Samuel: That's powerful.
  • 00:38:24.240 --> 00:38:25.150
  • - Jason: And so no matter the
  • 00:38:25.150 --> 00:38:26.080
  • doctors walking in, no matter,
  • 00:38:26.080 --> 00:38:27.200
  • we were not buying their report.
  • 00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:29.200
  • We were buying God's report
  • 00:38:29.200 --> 00:38:31.080
  • That was a principle that we
  • 00:38:33.100 --> 00:38:34.250
  • walked--not ever speak death,
  • 00:38:34.250 --> 00:38:36.180
  • speak life.
  • 00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:37.140
  • - Samuel: In the name of Jesus.
  • 00:38:37.140 --> 00:38:38.210
  • Powerful, powerful.
  • 00:38:38.210 --> 00:38:40.260
  • Again, I've shared your
  • 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:41.220
  • testimony so it's not
  • 00:38:41.220 --> 00:38:43.110
  • copyrighted, it's done.
  • 00:38:43.110 --> 00:38:44.230
  • That ship's sailed.
  • 00:38:44.230 --> 00:38:45.240
  • But we're sharing it all around
  • 00:38:45.240 --> 00:38:47.290
  • the world and I believe it is a
  • 00:38:47.290 --> 00:38:50.120
  • prophetic indicator, it is a
  • 00:38:50.120 --> 00:38:53.030
  • supermacral indicator of what
  • 00:38:53.090 --> 00:38:56.090
  • God will do with your
  • 00:38:56.090 --> 00:38:57.070
  • generation.
  • 00:38:57.070 --> 00:38:58.060
  • You and your generation
  • 00:38:58.060 --> 00:38:59.170
  • will change the world.
  • 00:38:59.170 --> 00:39:00.270
  • Thank you, Joyce.
  • 00:39:00.270 --> 00:39:01.270
  • Thank you, John.
  • 00:39:01.270 --> 00:39:02.230
  • Thank you, Pastor Jason.
  • 00:39:02.230 --> 00:39:03.240
  • Now, let's praise God in this
  • 00:39:03.240 --> 00:39:05.100
  • same spirit with Javen, "You--"
  • 00:39:05.100 --> 00:39:06.230
  • hey, this is right,
  • 00:39:06.230 --> 00:39:08.060
  • "You Are My God."
  • 00:39:08.060 --> 00:39:10.110
  • Let's give God praise.
  • 00:39:10.110 --> 00:39:12.130
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:13.020
  • - Javen: Hallelujah.
  • 00:39:13.020 --> 00:39:15.050
  • Hallelujah.
  • 00:39:15.050 --> 00:39:16.030
  • Lord, we worship you and magnify
  • 00:39:16.030 --> 00:39:16.250
  • your name.
  • 00:39:16.250 --> 00:39:17.130
  • C'mon, let's just worship the
  • 00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:18.040
  • Lord.
  • 00:39:18.040 --> 00:39:18.190
  • Is that all right?
  • 00:39:18.190 --> 00:39:19.110
  • [music]
  • 00:39:19.110 --> 00:39:19.260
  • Wherever you are
  • 00:39:22.200 --> 00:39:23.130
  • today, just begin
  • 00:39:23.130 --> 00:39:24.020
  • to lift him up.
  • 00:39:24.020 --> 00:39:24.290
  • There's power
  • 00:39:24.290 --> 00:39:25.240
  • in your worship.
  • 00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:26.250
  • The more you bless him, you
  • 00:39:26.250 --> 00:39:28.150
  • begin to feel his presence.
  • 00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:30.060
  • C'mon, let's worship him,
  • 00:39:30.060 --> 00:39:32.060
  • hallelujah.
  • 00:39:32.060 --> 00:39:32.270
  • [music]
  • 00:39:32.270 --> 00:39:34.020
  • for my soul.
  • 00:39:37.200 --> 00:39:40.170
  • Your love has never
  • 00:39:41.060 --> 00:39:44.060
  • let me go.
  • 00:39:44.240 --> 00:39:47.240
  • I would be nothing
  • 00:39:47.240 --> 00:39:49.200
  • without you.
  • 00:39:50.220 --> 00:39:53.220
  • The greatest thing I've done
  • 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.280
  • is give my life to you.
  • 00:39:57.060 --> 00:40:00.060
  • So I lift my hands.
  • 00:40:00.060 --> 00:40:01.220
  • So I lift my hands.
  • 00:40:03.250 --> 00:40:06.250
  • With my soul I'll sing.
  • 00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:08.110
  • With my soul I'll sing.
  • 00:40:09.220 --> 00:40:12.220
  • You are.
  • 00:40:12.220 --> 00:40:13.140
  • You are my God,
  • 00:40:13.140 --> 00:40:15.060
  • King of kings.
  • 00:40:15.060 --> 00:40:16.240
  • Emmanuel, my everything.
  • 00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:20.040
  • No one is greater, greater,
  • 00:40:20.040 --> 00:40:22.280
  • greater than you.
  • 00:40:24.010 --> 00:40:27.010
  • Alpha omega,
  • 00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:28.180
  • you're the same.
  • 00:40:28.180 --> 00:40:30.190
  • My guiding light,
  • 00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:31.270
  • you never change.
  • 00:40:31.270 --> 00:40:33.260
  • I give my heart,
  • 00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:35.220
  • give my soul, to you.
  • 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:40.040
  • Hallelu--to you, yes.
  • 00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:43.200
  • Just lift your hands,
  • 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:44.090
  • begin to worship him.
  • 00:40:44.090 --> 00:40:45.170
  • Wherever you are today,
  • 00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:46.240
  • just begin to lift up
  • 00:40:46.240 --> 00:40:47.180
  • the name of Jesus.
  • 00:40:47.180 --> 00:40:48.180
  • Healing can take place.
  • 00:40:48.180 --> 00:40:50.110
  • Deliverance can take place,
  • 00:40:50.110 --> 00:40:51.260
  • as you lift him up.
  • 00:40:51.260 --> 00:40:54.110
  • Say, "All I have."
  • 00:40:54.110 --> 00:40:56.080
  • All I have.
  • 00:40:56.080 --> 00:40:57.270
  • I present to you.
  • 00:40:57.270 --> 00:40:58.270
  • I present to you.
  • 00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:02.150
  • Yes, give my trust.
  • 00:41:02.150 --> 00:41:05.090
  • You've always
  • 00:41:05.090 --> 00:41:06.110
  • brought me through.
  • 00:41:06.110 --> 00:41:08.280
  • Submit my life.
  • 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:09.290
  • Submit my life to you
  • 00:41:09.290 --> 00:41:12.110
  • I yield, I yield
  • 00:41:13.270 --> 00:41:16.270
  • Humbly, I bow,
  • 00:41:16.270 --> 00:41:19.120
  • completely to your will.
  • 00:41:20.180 --> 00:41:23.180
  • So I worship you.
  • 00:41:25.170 --> 00:41:28.170
  • Say with me,
  • 00:41:28.170 --> 00:41:29.040
  • "Yes, I worship you."
  • 00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:30.180
  • Yes, I worship you.
  • 00:41:30.220 --> 00:41:33.220
  • C'mon, everybody.
  • 00:41:33.220 --> 00:41:34.150
  • You are my God.
  • 00:41:34.150 --> 00:41:35.220
  • You are my God.
  • 00:41:35.220 --> 00:41:37.090
  • King of kings.
  • 00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:38.210
  • King of kings.
  • 00:41:38.210 --> 00:41:39.130
  • Emmanuel.
  • 00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:40.190
  • Emmanuel, my everything.
  • 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:42.150
  • No one is greater, greater,
  • 00:41:42.150 --> 00:41:45.010
  • greater than you.
  • 00:41:45.030 --> 00:41:48.030
  • Say, "Alpha omega."
  • 00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:49.060
  • Alpha omega.
  • 00:41:49.060 --> 00:41:50.230
  • You're the same.
  • 00:41:50.230 --> 00:41:51.160
  • You're the same.
  • 00:41:51.160 --> 00:41:52.170
  • My guiding light,
  • 00:41:52.170 --> 00:41:54.090
  • never change.
  • 00:41:54.090 --> 00:41:55.240
  • I give my heart,
  • 00:41:55.240 --> 00:41:57.220
  • give my soul to you.
  • 00:41:58.200 --> 00:42:01.220
  • Glory to God.
  • 00:42:01.220 --> 00:42:03.060
  • Somebody say,
  • 00:42:03.060 --> 00:42:04.100
  • "Glory and honor."
  • 00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:05.040
  • Glory and honor.
  • 00:42:05.150 --> 00:42:08.150
  • You have all power
  • 00:42:08.150 --> 00:42:09.110
  • You have all power
  • 00:42:13.050 --> 00:42:16.050
  • Somebody wave
  • 00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:16.230
  • your hand and say--
  • 00:42:16.230 --> 00:42:18.060
  • Holy, holy.
  • 00:42:18.060 --> 00:42:20.230
  • If you know he's holy, say--
  • 00:42:20.230 --> 00:42:21.230
  • Holy, holy.
  • 00:42:21.230 --> 00:42:24.020
  • Hallelujah, say
  • 00:42:24.020 --> 00:42:24.280
  • You are my God.
  • 00:42:25.010 --> 00:42:28.010
  • You are my God
  • 00:42:31.220 --> 00:42:34.220
  • C'mon, let's lift him
  • 00:42:34.220 --> 00:42:35.090
  • up today.
  • 00:42:35.090 --> 00:42:36.180
  • All around the world, begin
  • 00:42:36.180 --> 00:42:37.290
  • to lift up the name of Jesus.
  • 00:42:37.290 --> 00:42:39.130
  • There's power in
  • 00:42:39.130 --> 00:42:40.090
  • the name of Jesus.
  • 00:42:40.090 --> 00:42:42.040
  • C'mon, we love you, Lord.
  • 00:42:42.040 --> 00:42:43.270
  • We praise you, Lord.
  • 00:42:43.270 --> 00:42:46.250
  • [music]
  • 00:42:46.250 --> 00:42:48.040
  • We magnify you.
  • 00:42:48.040 --> 00:42:50.090
  • Hey!
  • 00:42:50.090 --> 00:42:51.210
  • Glorify you.
  • 00:42:51.210 --> 00:42:53.130
  • Hey!
  • 00:42:53.130 --> 00:42:55.000
  • I lift you up.
  • 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:56.280
  • I lift you up.
  • 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.040
  • You are--say--
  • 00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:01.090
  • You are my God,
  • 00:43:01.090 --> 00:43:03.070
  • King of kings.
  • 00:43:03.070 --> 00:43:04.290
  • Emmanuel, my everything.
  • 00:43:05.020 --> 00:43:08.020
  • No one is greater, greater,
  • 00:43:08.020 --> 00:43:10.230
  • greater than you.
  • 00:43:11.290 --> 00:43:14.290
  • Alpha omega,
  • 00:43:14.290 --> 00:43:17.030
  • you're the same.
  • 00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:18.180
  • My guiding light,
  • 00:43:18.180 --> 00:43:20.010
  • you never change.
  • 00:43:20.010 --> 00:43:21.210
  • I give my heart,
  • 00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:23.270
  • give my soul, to you.
  • 00:43:24.250 --> 00:43:27.250
  • Wherever you are today,
  • 00:43:27.250 --> 00:43:28.130
  • give him everything.
  • 00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:29.210
  • Some of you have been holding
  • 00:43:29.210 --> 00:43:30.250
  • back but I'm telling you in
  • 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:31.270
  • the name of Jesus, give him
  • 00:43:31.270 --> 00:43:33.010
  • your heart, give him your soul.
  • 00:43:33.010 --> 00:43:34.170
  • Give him your mind.
  • 00:43:34.170 --> 00:43:35.150
  • The more you bless him,
  • 00:43:35.150 --> 00:43:36.140
  • the more you lift him, God'll
  • 00:43:36.140 --> 00:43:38.080
  • begin to heal that situation.
  • 00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:40.190
  • All you have to do
  • 00:43:40.190 --> 00:43:41.090
  • is worship him.
  • 00:43:41.090 --> 00:43:43.020
  • Worship Jesus.
  • 00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:45.160
  • Yeshua Hamashiach.
  • 00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:49.150
  • The Lamb of God, Yahweh,
  • 00:43:51.190 --> 00:43:54.190
  • Jehovah-Jireh you are.
  • 00:43:56.130 --> 00:43:59.130
  • Jesus.
  • 00:43:59.130 --> 00:44:01.050
  • The wheel in the middle
  • 00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:02.190
  • of the wheel,
  • 00:44:02.190 --> 00:44:04.010
  • you are, yeah, yeah-eh.
  • 00:44:06.170 --> 00:44:09.170
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:44:16.030 --> 00:44:16.200
  • - Samuel: "You Are My God."
  • 00:44:16.250 --> 00:44:19.250
  • By the way, Javen is one of
  • 00:44:19.250 --> 00:44:22.020
  • my favorite worship singers,
  • 00:44:22.020 --> 00:44:24.040
  • I kid you not, in Christiandom.
  • 00:44:24.040 --> 00:44:25.280
  • There is an anointing
  • 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.280
  • and a grace upon him.
  • 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:28.260
  • I have never heard Javen
  • 00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:30.000
  • sing where you don't sense
  • 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.020
  • God's Spirit.
  • 00:44:31.020 --> 00:44:32.050
  • You can feel it.
  • 00:44:32.050 --> 00:44:33.050
  • It's powerful and God bless him.
  • 00:44:33.050 --> 00:44:34.180
  • We love him.
  • 00:44:34.180 --> 00:44:35.150
  • I am blessed to have with me
  • 00:44:35.150 --> 00:44:37.020
  • right now Pastor Steve Wilburn
  • 00:44:37.020 --> 00:44:39.000
  • from Los Angeles, California.
  • 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:40.240
  • Pastor Steve, an associate
  • 00:44:40.240 --> 00:44:42.220
  • pastor with Greg Laurie for
  • 00:44:42.220 --> 00:44:43.210
  • years.
  • 00:44:43.210 --> 00:44:44.150
  • - Steve Wilburn: Yes, I was on
  • 00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:45.070
  • staff.
  • 00:44:45.070 --> 00:44:45.270
  • I actually started going to his
  • 00:44:45.270 --> 00:44:46.220
  • church back in 1979.
  • 00:44:46.220 --> 00:44:48.140
  • They did have actual indoor
  • 00:44:48.140 --> 00:44:49.230
  • plumbing them and--when me and
  • 00:44:49.230 --> 00:44:52.120
  • my wife got married, we started
  • 00:44:52.120 --> 00:44:53.080
  • going to church there, 1979.
  • 00:44:53.080 --> 00:44:54.280
  • I've been married almost
  • 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:55.190
  • 37 years now.
  • 00:44:55.190 --> 00:44:57.150
  • And--but, amen.
  • 00:44:57.150 --> 00:45:00.070
  • That's kind of a miracle these
  • 00:45:00.070 --> 00:45:01.060
  • days, you know?
  • 00:45:01.060 --> 00:45:02.100
  • But I was this youth pastor,
  • 00:45:02.100 --> 00:45:04.150
  • possibly the oldest youth pastor
  • 00:45:04.150 --> 00:45:05.250
  • on the planet.
  • 00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:07.080
  • And I was also teaching the main
  • 00:45:07.080 --> 00:45:08.170
  • Sunday night service so
  • 00:45:08.170 --> 00:45:09.280
  • Pastor Greg Laurie is kind of
  • 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.100
  • like a dad to me.
  • 00:45:11.100 --> 00:45:12.100
  • I really appreciate him and love
  • 00:45:12.100 --> 00:45:13.220
  • him.
  • 00:45:13.220 --> 00:45:14.160
  • You know, he's my personal
  • 00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:15.140
  • pastor.
  • 00:45:15.140 --> 00:45:16.100
  • He kind of helped kick me out
  • 00:45:16.100 --> 00:45:17.100
  • the door
  • 00:45:17.100 --> 00:45:17.250
  • - Samuel: Well, we love
  • 00:45:19.270 --> 00:45:20.150
  • Pastor Greg here at TBN, indeed.
  • 00:45:20.150 --> 00:45:22.030
  • Is it true that there's
  • 00:45:22.030 --> 00:45:23.120
  • a requirement to tattoo Pastor
  • 00:45:23.120 --> 00:45:24.270
  • Greg's face on your back--
  • 00:45:24.270 --> 00:45:26.230
  • - Steve: Yes, yes,
  • 00:45:26.230 --> 00:45:27.190
  • it is on my back.
  • 00:45:27.190 --> 00:45:28.290
  • - Samuel: We're kidding.
  • 00:45:28.290 --> 00:45:29.200
  • we're having fun.
  • 00:45:31.240 --> 00:45:32.250
  • I mean, things have taken place
  • 00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:34.110
  • in the Los Angeles area.
  • 00:45:34.110 --> 00:45:35.290
  • Now, you and I have both heard
  • 00:45:35.290 --> 00:45:37.140
  • the idea that Los Angeles,
  • 00:45:37.140 --> 00:45:39.210
  • California, it's been deemed as
  • 00:45:39.210 --> 00:45:41.180
  • a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah.
  • 00:45:41.180 --> 00:45:43.130
  • - Steve: Absolutely,
  • 00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:44.080
  • it's a very dark city.
  • 00:45:44.080 --> 00:45:45.020
  • Very dark city.
  • 00:45:45.020 --> 00:45:46.110
  • And it's the city what--when God
  • 00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:49.050
  • had laid on my heart to start a
  • 00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:50.230
  • church about 20 years ago, I was
  • 00:45:50.230 --> 00:45:52.230
  • thinking, like, Lord, you know,
  • 00:45:52.230 --> 00:45:54.090
  • just give us a church, you know,
  • 00:45:54.090 --> 00:45:55.280
  • some--give me a city 'cause
  • 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.060
  • Pastor Greg has this "Save the
  • 00:45:57.060 --> 00:45:58.100
  • world" mentality and I assisted
  • 00:45:58.100 --> 00:46:00.070
  • him and I traveled with him at
  • 00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:01.160
  • all the Harvest Crusades,
  • 00:46:01.160 --> 00:46:02.230
  • United States,
  • 00:46:02.230 --> 00:46:03.170
  • Australia, New Zealand.
  • 00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:04.200
  • Been all over the world with
  • 00:46:04.200 --> 00:46:05.290
  • him.
  • 00:46:05.290 --> 00:46:06.270
  • But I kind have had the
  • 00:46:06.270 --> 00:46:08.080
  • mentality of, "God, just give me
  • 00:46:08.080 --> 00:46:09.180
  • a city."
  • 00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:10.120
  • So I was thinking, like, we did
  • 00:46:10.120 --> 00:46:11.150
  • a Harvest Crusade in Hickory,
  • 00:46:11.150 --> 00:46:13.000
  • North Carolina.
  • 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.080
  • It was about, I dunno, 20.000
  • 00:46:14.080 --> 00:46:15.120
  • people is the population.
  • 00:46:15.120 --> 00:46:17.140
  • I'm thinking, "Lord, give me a
  • 00:46:17.140 --> 00:46:18.100
  • city like that."
  • 00:46:18.100 --> 00:46:19.080
  • - Samuel: You did say Hickory,
  • 00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:20.000
  • North Carolina?
  • 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:20.150
  • - Steve: Yeah, "I will own the
  • 00:46:20.150 --> 00:46:21.070
  • city.
  • 00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:22.060
  • I will go to every single door
  • 00:46:22.060 --> 00:46:23.150
  • and I'll own that city."
  • 00:46:23.150 --> 00:46:25.000
  • So I was praying for a city that
  • 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:26.200
  • we could own, like, I'll just go
  • 00:46:26.200 --> 00:46:28.140
  • to every single door.
  • 00:46:28.140 --> 00:46:29.240
  • And God led us to Los Angeles,
  • 00:46:29.240 --> 00:46:32.120
  • second largest city in America,
  • 00:46:32.120 --> 00:46:34.020
  • 4 million people, 10-1/2 million
  • 00:46:34.020 --> 00:46:35.240
  • people in the county.
  • 00:46:35.240 --> 00:46:37.020
  • And so it's a little bit bigger
  • 00:46:37.020 --> 00:46:38.030
  • than what I was anticipating.
  • 00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:39.260
  • - Samuel: Just a tad.
  • 00:46:39.260 --> 00:46:40.130
  • - Steve: Just a little bit, you
  • 00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:41.050
  • know.
  • 00:46:41.050 --> 00:46:41.220
  • But God put us--we started in a
  • 00:46:41.220 --> 00:46:44.030
  • building right across the street
  • 00:46:44.030 --> 00:46:46.030
  • from Sony Studio.
  • 00:46:46.030 --> 00:46:47.070
  • So Sony Studio's right here,
  • 00:46:47.070 --> 00:46:48.280
  • we're right across the street.
  • 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.040
  • - Samuel: And by the way, in
  • 00:46:50.040 --> 00:46:50.250
  • a few minutes we're gonna have
  • 00:46:50.250 --> 00:46:51.160
  • a VP from Sony Pictures here,
  • 00:46:51.160 --> 00:46:53.110
  • DeVon Franklin, in a second.
  • 00:46:53.110 --> 00:46:54.230
  • I wanna hear from you, Pastor
  • 00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:55.260
  • Steve, this.
  • 00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:56.200
  • The theme today, of course, as
  • 00:46:56.200 --> 00:46:58.050
  • you heard previously, is the
  • 00:46:58.050 --> 00:46:59.170
  • idea either we curse the
  • 00:46:59.170 --> 00:47:01.130
  • darkness or turn on the light.
  • 00:47:01.130 --> 00:47:02.240
  • And you heard about miracles,
  • 00:47:02.240 --> 00:47:04.080
  • how Joyce Smith turned on the
  • 00:47:04.080 --> 00:47:06.050
  • light with her prayer and her
  • 00:47:06.050 --> 00:47:07.170
  • commitment to her promise.
  • 00:47:07.170 --> 00:47:08.210
  • This is Hollywood, Los Angeles.
  • 00:47:08.210 --> 00:47:11.140
  • I mean, talk about darkness.
  • 00:47:11.140 --> 00:47:12.260
  • - Steve: Yeah, it's very dark.
  • 00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:14.220
  • It's a very dark city and the
  • 00:47:14.220 --> 00:47:16.060
  • people are very hardened to
  • 00:47:16.060 --> 00:47:18.140
  • Christ and what have you.
  • 00:47:18.140 --> 00:47:20.050
  • - Samuel: Why?
  • 00:47:20.050 --> 00:47:20.280
  • - Steve: Well, because it's
  • 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.200
  • just the liberal mindset that's
  • 00:47:22.200 --> 00:47:24.050
  • taken over our world and I think
  • 00:47:24.050 --> 00:47:25.060
  • that it's just a more
  • 00:47:25.060 --> 00:47:26.290
  • centralized area.
  • 00:47:26.290 --> 00:47:28.000
  • You have a lot of people from a
  • 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:28.250
  • lot of different cultures and
  • 00:47:28.250 --> 00:47:30.000
  • everything.
  • 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:30.210
  • And you have people, a lot of
  • 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:31.180
  • different lifestyles.
  • 00:47:31.180 --> 00:47:32.230
  • there and what have you.
  • 00:47:34.250 --> 00:47:35.210
  • But what better place to shine
  • 00:47:35.210 --> 00:47:37.060
  • the light?
  • 00:47:37.060 --> 00:47:38.160
  • You know, when God called us
  • 00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:39.160
  • there, you know--
  • 00:47:39.160 --> 00:47:40.140
  • - Samuel: Beautiful.
  • 00:47:40.140 --> 00:47:41.020
  • - Steve: Amen.
  • 00:47:41.020 --> 00:47:41.250
  • You know, the Bible says, you
  • 00:47:41.250 --> 00:47:42.220
  • know, Jesus speaking in Matthew
  • 00:47:42.220 --> 00:47:43.250
  • 5:16, "Let your light so shine
  • 00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:45.140
  • before men in such a way that
  • 00:47:45.140 --> 00:47:47.120
  • works and glorify your Father
  • 00:47:49.020 --> 00:47:50.250
  • which is in heaven."
  • 00:47:50.250 --> 00:47:52.010
  • And so to be able to go to a
  • 00:47:52.010 --> 00:47:53.210
  • place like, I mean, I love this.
  • 00:47:53.210 --> 00:47:55.090
  • I remember standing on a
  • 00:47:55.090 --> 00:47:56.110
  • rooftop.
  • 00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:57.240
  • It was, you know, a helicopter
  • 00:47:57.240 --> 00:48:00.100
  • pad, these people that I had met
  • 00:48:00.100 --> 00:48:01.260
  • on a building downtown right
  • 00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:03.150
  • next to where the Lakers play.
  • 00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:04.290
  • And it's right there in downtown
  • 00:48:04.290 --> 00:48:06.230
  • L.A. and I was
  • 00:48:06.230 --> 00:48:07.270
  • on the helicopter pad.
  • 00:48:07.270 --> 00:48:09.160
  • And when you're driving around
  • 00:48:09.160 --> 00:48:10.140
  • Los Angeles, you know it's a big
  • 00:48:10.140 --> 00:48:11.170
  • city, it's crowded, there's
  • 00:48:11.170 --> 00:48:12.220
  • traffic everywhere.
  • 00:48:12.220 --> 00:48:13.280
  • But when you're standing on a
  • 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:14.270
  • helicopter pad and you're
  • 00:48:14.270 --> 00:48:16.180
  • looking at the city, I'm, like,
  • 00:48:16.180 --> 00:48:17.270
  • "Oh, my goodness, this place is
  • 00:48:17.270 --> 00:48:20.000
  • humungous.
  • 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.240
  • Like, God, where do I even
  • 00:48:21.240 --> 00:48:22.220
  • start?
  • 00:48:22.220 --> 00:48:23.170
  • Like, how do you--like, where do
  • 00:48:23.170 --> 00:48:24.260
  • you even go about this?
  • 00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:26.010
  • How do you make this even
  • 00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:26.230
  • happen?"
  • 00:48:26.230 --> 00:48:27.190
  • And it was just one step at a
  • 00:48:27.190 --> 00:48:29.040
  • time.
  • 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:30.020
  • So we started in this little old
  • 00:48:30.020 --> 00:48:31.190
  • bank building and we started
  • 00:48:31.190 --> 00:48:33.250
  • meeting there--
  • 00:48:33.250 --> 00:48:35.140
  • - Samuel: Across the street
  • 00:48:35.140 --> 00:48:36.040
  • from Sony?
  • 00:48:36.040 --> 00:48:36.200
  • - Steve: Across from Sony--
  • 00:48:36.200 --> 00:48:37.160
  • - Samuel: I mean, honestly,
  • 00:48:37.160 --> 00:48:38.070
  • without getting uberly mystical
  • 00:48:38.070 --> 00:48:39.110
  • and spiritual about it, was that
  • 00:48:39.110 --> 00:48:41.040
  • a coinkydink?
  • 00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:42.050
  • - Steve: Well, it was totally a
  • 00:48:42.050 --> 00:48:43.260
  • coinkydink.
  • 00:48:43.260 --> 00:48:44.140
  • - Samuel: I went to Sacramento;
  • 00:48:44.140 --> 00:48:45.060
  • I say coinkydink.
  • 00:48:45.060 --> 00:48:45.260
  • - Steve: Yeah, well, it was
  • 00:48:45.260 --> 00:48:46.170
  • crazy to say the least.
  • 00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:47.250
  • You know, really, Pastor Sam,
  • 00:48:47.250 --> 00:48:50.050
  • it's kind of like when you're in
  • 00:48:50.050 --> 00:48:52.030
  • something crazy, it doesn't seem
  • 00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:53.060
  • crazy when you're in it.
  • 00:48:53.060 --> 00:48:54.280
  • And then when you're, kind of
  • 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:55.290
  • like, out of it and then you
  • 00:48:55.290 --> 00:48:57.070
  • look back and you think, right,
  • 00:48:57.070 --> 00:48:58.150
  • "That was stinkin' crazy."
  • 00:48:58.150 --> 00:49:00.090
  • This was, like, insane.
  • 00:49:00.090 --> 00:49:02.150
  • So we start with just this
  • 00:49:02.150 --> 00:49:03.280
  • handful of people and, you know,
  • 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.020
  • in--at the end of 3 months, we
  • 00:49:06.020 --> 00:49:07.180
  • had 120 people.
  • 00:49:07.180 --> 00:49:09.030
  • I'm, like, "I can't believe it."
  • 00:49:09.030 --> 00:49:10.170
  • Because me and my wife moved
  • 00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:11.200
  • there.
  • 00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:12.070
  • We didn't have any--you know, we
  • 00:49:12.070 --> 00:49:13.070
  • had $10.000 saved to our name.
  • 00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:14.250
  • That was our life savings and
  • 00:49:14.250 --> 00:49:16.120
  • we're, like--I said, "Honey, we
  • 00:49:16.120 --> 00:49:17.170
  • can go for about 7 weeks.
  • 00:49:17.170 --> 00:49:19.110
  • I gotta preach well because
  • 00:49:19.110 --> 00:49:20.240
  • we're gonna be out of money and
  • 00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:21.270
  • that's it."
  • 00:49:21.270 --> 00:49:22.210
  • We had to--we spent all our
  • 00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:24.100
  • money on the first month's rent
  • 00:49:24.100 --> 00:49:25.180
  • and all of that.
  • 00:49:25.180 --> 00:49:26.170
  • We had nothing left.
  • 00:49:26.170 --> 00:49:27.180
  • And then all of a sudden, after
  • 00:49:27.180 --> 00:49:29.030
  • 3 months, we had 120 people.
  • 00:49:29.030 --> 00:49:31.020
  • And then we just kept growing.
  • 00:49:31.020 --> 00:49:32.200
  • And just kept preaching the Word
  • 00:49:32.200 --> 00:49:34.290
  • and it just kept growing.
  • 00:49:34.290 --> 00:49:36.110
  • And now, here we are, on our 3rd
  • 00:49:36.110 --> 00:49:38.090
  • year anniversary.
  • 00:49:38.090 --> 00:49:39.210
  • Our 3rd year anniversary, we put
  • 00:49:39.210 --> 00:49:41.090
  • down money to buy an
  • 00:49:41.090 --> 00:49:43.170
  • $8.5 million building.
  • 00:49:43.170 --> 00:49:45.200
  • But here's the thing.
  • 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:46.180
  • We didn't have any money, okay?
  • 00:49:46.180 --> 00:49:48.060
  • So--
  • 00:49:48.060 --> 00:49:49.030
  • - Samuel: All right, let's--I'm
  • 00:49:49.030 --> 00:49:50.020
  • sorry, again.
  • 00:49:50.020 --> 00:49:50.290
  • Let's digress here a bit.
  • 00:49:50.290 --> 00:49:52.100
  • So you put money down on an $8.5
  • 00:49:52.150 --> 00:49:55.150
  • million building, but you did
  • 00:49:55.150 --> 00:49:57.240
  • not have any money to put down?
  • 00:49:57.240 --> 00:49:59.010
  • - Steve: Well, we put
  • 00:49:59.010 --> 00:50:00.010
  • down--well, I'm sorry.
  • 00:50:00.010 --> 00:50:01.080
  • We put down $50.000.
  • 00:50:01.080 --> 00:50:02.260
  • And we had saved up some money
  • 00:50:02.260 --> 00:50:05.170
  • 'cause there was a woman that
  • 00:50:05.170 --> 00:50:06.220
  • had willed us her house and she
  • 00:50:06.220 --> 00:50:08.140
  • actually gave us--she called me
  • 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:09.160
  • up one day and said, "Hey,
  • 00:50:09.160 --> 00:50:10.170
  • Pastor Steve, hey, look, I wanna
  • 00:50:10.170 --> 00:50:12.070
  • give you and your wife my
  • 00:50:12.070 --> 00:50:14.040
  • house."
  • 00:50:14.040 --> 00:50:14.240
  • So I'm, like, "Well,
  • 00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:15.200
  • that's nice.
  • 00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:16.130
  • But give it to Jesus.
  • 00:50:16.130 --> 00:50:18.030
  • Don't give it to us.
  • 00:50:18.030 --> 00:50:19.090
  • Just give it to the Lord."
  • 00:50:19.090 --> 00:50:20.090
  • And so she did.
  • 00:50:20.090 --> 00:50:21.280
  • She had come down with cancer
  • 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.140
  • and the Lord took her home and
  • 00:50:23.140 --> 00:50:25.060
  • she willed us this house and we
  • 00:50:25.060 --> 00:50:26.210
  • sold this house.
  • 00:50:26.210 --> 00:50:27.150
  • And this house was in Century
  • 00:50:27.150 --> 00:50:28.080
  • City, it's high-rent district.
  • 00:50:28.080 --> 00:50:30.000
  • So we sold that house and, after
  • 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.280
  • paying off the house, after
  • 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.010
  • paying off all the lawyers and
  • 00:50:33.010 --> 00:50:34.090
  • all of this stuff, we walked
  • 00:50:34.090 --> 00:50:35.160
  • away with about $600.000, okay?
  • 00:50:35.160 --> 00:50:37.190
  • Now, so it's not like we didn't
  • 00:50:37.190 --> 00:50:39.050
  • have any money.
  • 00:50:39.050 --> 00:50:40.050
  • And then we saved $600.000 in
  • 00:50:40.050 --> 00:50:42.080
  • those first 3 years.
  • 00:50:42.080 --> 00:50:43.180
  • So we had $1.2 million but
  • 00:50:43.180 --> 00:50:45.070
  • here's the thing.
  • 00:50:45.070 --> 00:50:46.200
  • This is what people don't
  • 00:50:46.200 --> 00:50:47.100
  • understand.
  • 00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:48.030
  • Our church is a quarter mile
  • 00:50:48.030 --> 00:50:49.180
  • south of Beverly Hills, okay?
  • 00:50:49.180 --> 00:50:51.100
  • So what you get for $1.2 million
  • 00:50:51.100 --> 00:50:54.020
  • on the west side of Los Angeles
  • 00:50:54.020 --> 00:50:55.090
  • is an air-conditioned dog house
  • 00:50:55.090 --> 00:50:56.290
  • and the air conditioning has
  • 00:50:56.290 --> 00:50:58.160
  • broke, okay?
  • 00:50:58.160 --> 00:50:59.180
  • You get nothing, okay?
  • 00:50:59.180 --> 00:51:01.070
  • So when we found this building,
  • 00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:02.280
  • we found a building that was
  • 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:03.280
  • built in 1942.
  • 00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.200
  • It was completely like ready to
  • 00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:07.210
  • just be condemned.
  • 00:51:07.210 --> 00:51:09.050
  • And this building was $8.5
  • 00:51:09.050 --> 00:51:11.010
  • million.
  • 00:51:11.010 --> 00:51:13.020
  • And it was, like, next to being
  • 00:51:13.020 --> 00:51:14.140
  • condemned.
  • 00:51:14.140 --> 00:51:15.170
  • I mean, it was just completely
  • 00:51:15.170 --> 00:51:16.250
  • thrashed.
  • 00:51:16.250 --> 00:51:18.080
  • - Samuel: In the outskirts of
  • 00:51:18.080 --> 00:51:18.290
  • Beverly Hills?
  • 00:51:18.290 --> 00:51:19.140
  • - Steve: In--just 1/4 mile
  • 00:51:19.140 --> 00:51:20.210
  • south of Beverly Hills.
  • 00:51:20.210 --> 00:51:21.140
  • We're right on the busiest
  • 00:51:21.140 --> 00:51:22.200
  • street in all of Los Angeles.
  • 00:51:22.200 --> 00:51:25.170
  • Busiest north and south street
  • 00:51:25.170 --> 00:51:26.240
  • of all of L.A.
  • 00:51:26.240 --> 00:51:27.220
  • It's called La Cienega.
  • 00:51:27.220 --> 00:51:29.090
  • And we're right on the 10
  • 00:51:29.090 --> 00:51:30.150
  • Freeway.
  • 00:51:30.150 --> 00:51:31.070
  • You can see our church from the
  • 00:51:31.070 --> 00:51:32.040
  • 10 Freeway, which is the main
  • 00:51:32.040 --> 00:51:33.040
  • freeway that cuts through
  • 00:51:33.040 --> 00:51:34.100
  • Los Angeles.
  • 00:51:34.100 --> 00:51:35.240
  • So we buy this building that's
  • 00:51:35.240 --> 00:51:37.100
  • just a heap.
  • 00:51:39.130 --> 00:51:41.140
  • And so we put money down on it.
  • 00:51:41.140 --> 00:51:43.230
  • And it was just to hold it, to
  • 00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:45.140
  • see if the city would allow us
  • 00:51:45.140 --> 00:51:46.170
  • to put a church there.
  • 00:51:46.170 --> 00:51:47.210
  • Well, the city said, "Yes."
  • 00:51:47.210 --> 00:51:48.240
  • And then the owner realized that
  • 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:50.150
  • we only had $1 million, which $1
  • 00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:52.260
  • million, it sounds like a lot
  • 00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:53.290
  • but it's not enough to buy this.
  • 00:51:53.290 --> 00:51:55.170
  • because we've only been a church
  • 00:51:57.210 --> 00:51:58.190
  • for 3 years.
  • 00:51:58.190 --> 00:51:59.210
  • It's just like, "We're not gonna
  • 00:51:59.210 --> 00:52:00.160
  • loan you money.
  • 00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:01.050
  • Are you nuts?"
  • 00:52:01.050 --> 00:52:02.120
  • Okay, so we said, "Well, we're
  • 00:52:02.120 --> 00:52:04.010
  • gonna buy the building."
  • 00:52:04.010 --> 00:52:05.130
  • So the owner comes to me and
  • 00:52:05.130 --> 00:52:06.130
  • says, "Look, I got three other
  • 00:52:06.130 --> 00:52:07.090
  • people that wanna buy it.
  • 00:52:07.090 --> 00:52:08.100
  • You can't get a loan, you can't
  • 00:52:08.100 --> 00:52:10.090
  • get any money so I'm gonna sell
  • 00:52:10.090 --> 00:52:12.030
  • to someone else."
  • 00:52:12.030 --> 00:52:13.070
  • And I go, "No, I'm telling you,
  • 00:52:13.070 --> 00:52:14.060
  • God's gonna give us this
  • 00:52:14.060 --> 00:52:15.070
  • building.
  • 00:52:15.070 --> 00:52:16.110
  • He's gonna provide it.
  • 00:52:16.110 --> 00:52:17.100
  • You're gonna see."
  • 00:52:17.100 --> 00:52:18.130
  • And this guy was a Jewish man.
  • 00:52:18.130 --> 00:52:19.180
  • And I said to him, "The God of
  • 00:52:19.180 --> 00:52:21.120
  • Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, he's
  • 00:52:21.120 --> 00:52:22.270
  • gonna split the Red Sea for us.
  • 00:52:22.270 --> 00:52:24.260
  • He's given us this building."
  • 00:52:24.260 --> 00:52:26.040
  • And he's just, like--
  • 00:52:26.040 --> 00:52:27.080
  • - Samuel: That is beautiful.
  • 00:52:27.080 --> 00:52:27.290
  • Cultural contextualization, my
  • 00:52:27.290 --> 00:52:28.290
  • friend.
  • 00:52:28.290 --> 00:52:29.290
  • - Steve: Exactly.
  • 00:52:29.290 --> 00:52:30.190
  • - Samuel: Brilliant, indeed.
  • 00:52:30.190 --> 00:52:31.110
  • - Steve: Well, when we had the
  • 00:52:31.110 --> 00:52:32.050
  • first meeting with this man, I
  • 00:52:32.050 --> 00:52:33.040
  • preached to him for an hour and
  • 00:52:33.040 --> 00:52:34.200
  • 20 minutes before we even talked
  • 00:52:34.200 --> 00:52:36.010
  • about the building.
  • 00:52:36.010 --> 00:52:37.050
  • And so finally, he says, "Look,
  • 00:52:37.050 --> 00:52:38.150
  • you know, Pastor Steve, I like
  • 00:52:38.150 --> 00:52:39.270
  • you but you don't have any
  • 00:52:39.270 --> 00:52:41.020
  • money, so I have to move on."
  • 00:52:41.020 --> 00:52:42.250
  • And I go, "No, I'm telling you.
  • 00:52:42.250 --> 00:52:44.160
  • You gotta sell us this
  • 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:45.140
  • building."
  • 00:52:45.140 --> 00:52:46.000
  • He goes, "Well, the only way
  • 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:46.200
  • that I'll hold it for you is
  • 00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:47.270
  • I'll hold it for you for 90 days
  • 00:52:47.270 --> 00:52:49.260
  • if you give me $600.000
  • 00:52:49.260 --> 00:52:52.180
  • non-refundable money."
  • 00:52:52.180 --> 00:52:54.210
  • So I'm, like, "Okay."
  • 00:52:54.210 --> 00:52:56.270
  • And he's, like, "What?"
  • 00:52:56.270 --> 00:52:59.110
  • And he's--I had to sign
  • 00:52:59.110 --> 00:53:00.060
  • contracts.
  • 00:53:00.060 --> 00:53:01.000
  • My lawyer was telling me,
  • 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:01.280
  • "Steve, have you lost your
  • 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:02.230
  • mind?"
  • 00:53:02.230 --> 00:53:03.220
  • I'm, like, "I'm telling you,
  • 00:53:03.220 --> 00:53:04.230
  • God's gonna give us this
  • 00:53:04.230 --> 00:53:05.160
  • building."
  • 00:53:05.160 --> 00:53:06.130
  • And so we put down $600.000 and,
  • 00:53:06.130 --> 00:53:08.280
  • after we did that,
  • 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:09.250
  • non-refundable money, of course,
  • 00:53:09.250 --> 00:53:11.230
  • I'm, like, thinking, "What have
  • 00:53:11.230 --> 00:53:12.290
  • I just done?"
  • 00:53:12.290 --> 00:53:13.290
  • Okay, but then, of course,
  • 00:53:13.290 --> 00:53:15.210
  • the Lord opened up the doors.
  • 00:53:15.210 --> 00:53:18.020
  • A private individual came up to
  • 00:53:18.020 --> 00:53:19.140
  • us right after that.
  • 00:53:19.140 --> 00:53:20.230
  • He says, "I'll loan you $6.5
  • 00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:22.260
  • million if you can come up
  • 00:53:22.260 --> 00:53:24.100
  • with $2 million."
  • 00:53:24.100 --> 00:53:25.230
  • So we had $1.2 million.
  • 00:53:25.230 --> 00:53:27.250
  • I had to come up with
  • 00:53:27.250 --> 00:53:28.120
  • $800.000 more.
  • 00:53:28.120 --> 00:53:29.060
  • So when we fast-forward to the
  • 00:53:29.060 --> 00:53:30.040
  • story, we get to the day of
  • 00:53:30.040 --> 00:53:31.040
  • escrow, the day that we have to
  • 00:53:31.040 --> 00:53:32.150
  • close escrow, the day that we
  • 00:53:32.150 --> 00:53:33.240
  • have to ship over $2 million to
  • 00:53:33.240 --> 00:53:35.090
  • the escrow company to close
  • 00:53:35.090 --> 00:53:36.240
  • escrow on this building.
  • 00:53:36.240 --> 00:53:38.040
  • And I wake up that morning,
  • 00:53:38.040 --> 00:53:39.080
  • we're $260.000 short.
  • 00:53:39.080 --> 00:53:41.210
  • And I'm just, like, going--well,
  • 00:53:41.210 --> 00:53:43.180
  • you know, I had this peace that
  • 00:53:43.180 --> 00:53:45.140
  • surpassed all understanding.
  • 00:53:45.140 --> 00:53:48.010
  • I'm just sitting there, like--I
  • 00:53:48.010 --> 00:53:49.040
  • mean, I should be freaking out,
  • 00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:50.150
  • like, "I'm gonna lose $600.000.
  • 00:53:50.150 --> 00:53:52.140
  • We didn't come up with
  • 00:53:52.140 --> 00:53:53.150
  • the money.
  • 00:53:53.150 --> 00:53:54.000
  • This guy's gonna take our money.
  • 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.000
  • It's gonna be done, it's gonna
  • 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:55.280
  • be over with.
  • 00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:56.220
  • My church is gonna hog-tie me,
  • 00:53:56.220 --> 00:53:58.080
  • tar and feather me, and kill me,
  • 00:53:58.080 --> 00:53:59.270
  • all together, all in one group."
  • 00:53:59.270 --> 00:54:01.230
  • - Samuel: In the same day.
  • 00:54:01.230 --> 00:54:02.130
  • - Steve: Yeah, in the same day.
  • 00:54:02.130 --> 00:54:03.110
  • And it's, like, so I'm sitting
  • 00:54:03.110 --> 00:54:04.020
  • there and I'm just, like--but
  • 00:54:04.020 --> 00:54:05.120
  • I had this uncanny peace.
  • 00:54:05.120 --> 00:54:07.030
  • And so at 9 o'clock I get a text
  • 00:54:07.030 --> 00:54:09.220
  • and it's from this guy that I
  • 00:54:09.220 --> 00:54:12.060
  • had met for the first time
  • 00:54:12.060 --> 00:54:13.280
  • the last Sunday and my
  • 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.110
  • administrative pastor had give
  • 00:54:16.110 --> 00:54:17.180
  • him my phone number.
  • 00:54:17.180 --> 00:54:19.080
  • And he says, "Why don't you meet
  • 00:54:19.080 --> 00:54:20.000
  • me in my bank?"
  • 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:21.020
  • And I'm like--and I didn't even
  • 00:54:21.020 --> 00:54:22.040
  • know who it was at that point.
  • 00:54:22.040 --> 00:54:23.110
  • So I'm, like, "Well, I'm not
  • 00:54:23.110 --> 00:54:24.230
  • doing anything else this
  • 00:54:24.230 --> 00:54:25.160
  • morning," so I get up and I go
  • 00:54:25.160 --> 00:54:27.120
  • to the bank and so I'm walking
  • 00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:29.000
  • up the street.
  • 00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:29.280
  • His bank's in Beverly Hills.
  • 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.080
  • I'm walking up the sidewalk and
  • 00:54:31.080 --> 00:54:32.120
  • I see the guy.
  • 00:54:32.120 --> 00:54:33.040
  • I'm like, "Oh, that's the guy I
  • 00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:33.260
  • said, 'Hello,' to on Sunday.
  • 00:54:33.260 --> 00:54:35.180
  • So I only seen him once.
  • 00:54:35.180 --> 00:54:36.180
  • I said, 'Hi,' to him and his
  • 00:54:36.180 --> 00:54:37.130
  • wife and they left."
  • 00:54:37.130 --> 00:54:38.250
  • He goes, "I hear you're a little
  • 00:54:38.250 --> 00:54:39.170
  • short."
  • 00:54:39.170 --> 00:54:40.040
  • And I'm, like, "Yeah."
  • 00:54:40.040 --> 00:54:41.020
  • And he goes, "How much?"
  • 00:54:41.020 --> 00:54:41.200
  • I go, "Well, $260.000."
  • 00:54:41.200 --> 00:54:43.080
  • He goes, "Is that all you need?"
  • 00:54:43.080 --> 00:54:44.110
  • I go, "Well, that's what we're
  • 00:54:44.110 --> 00:54:45.020
  • short."
  • 00:54:45.020 --> 00:54:45.270
  • And he goes, "You have your
  • 00:54:45.270 --> 00:54:47.070
  • routing number to your bank?"
  • 00:54:47.070 --> 00:54:48.090
  • I said, "Yeah, I carry it in my
  • 00:54:48.090 --> 00:54:49.010
  • wallet."
  • 00:54:49.010 --> 00:54:50.070
  • And he took it.
  • 00:54:50.070 --> 00:54:50.240
  • He said, "Well, let me see
  • 00:54:50.240 --> 00:54:51.130
  • that."
  • 00:54:51.130 --> 00:54:51.290
  • And he goes in the bank and he
  • 00:54:51.290 --> 00:54:52.200
  • comes back out, like, 7 minutes
  • 00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:53.240
  • later and he says, like, "Okay,
  • 00:54:53.240 --> 00:54:55.120
  • well, have a nice day."
  • 00:54:55.120 --> 00:54:56.220
  • Praise Jesus.
  • 00:54:56.220 --> 00:54:58.290
  • It's like, so, ha, ha, so then
  • 00:54:58.290 --> 00:55:01.020
  • we buy the building.
  • 00:55:01.020 --> 00:55:03.100
  • And so it's, like, pull the
  • 00:55:03.100 --> 00:55:04.230
  • party popper, rejoice, all of
  • 00:55:04.230 --> 00:55:06.290
  • this.
  • 00:55:06.290 --> 00:55:08.050
  • That goes on for about 3 weeks.
  • 00:55:08.050 --> 00:55:09.160
  • And then all of a sudden I'm,
  • 00:55:09.160 --> 00:55:10.100
  • like, "What in the world did I
  • 00:55:10.100 --> 00:55:11.240
  • just do?"
  • 00:55:11.240 --> 00:55:12.190
  • Because our rent on the bank
  • 00:55:12.190 --> 00:55:15.050
  • that we were renting across from
  • 00:55:15.050 --> 00:55:16.050
  • Sony Studios, that was $16.500 a
  • 00:55:16.050 --> 00:55:18.000
  • month.
  • 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:19.280
  • The new loan that we had just
  • 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.070
  • closed on this building was
  • 00:55:21.070 --> 00:55:22.250
  • $21.500 a month.
  • 00:55:22.250 --> 00:55:25.060
  • So all of a sudden I'm sitting
  • 00:55:25.060 --> 00:55:26.070
  • there and all of a sudden the
  • 00:55:26.070 --> 00:55:27.070
  • math is coming together.
  • 00:55:27.070 --> 00:55:28.100
  • Our rent just went to $40.000
  • 00:55:28.100 --> 00:55:30.080
  • a month.
  • 00:55:30.080 --> 00:55:32.010
  • The building is in total
  • 00:55:32.010 --> 00:55:33.180
  • disrepair.
  • 00:55:33.180 --> 00:55:34.290
  • The city of L.A.
  • 00:55:34.290 --> 00:55:35.250
  • will not let us move in there
  • 00:55:35.250 --> 00:55:37.010
  • until we do a $1.8 million
  • 00:55:37.010 --> 00:55:38.190
  • build-out and everything.
  • 00:55:38.190 --> 00:55:40.150
  • I'm just, like, going, "This is
  • 00:55:40.150 --> 00:55:41.090
  • insanity.
  • 00:55:41.090 --> 00:55:42.210
  • What have I done?"
  • 00:55:42.210 --> 00:55:43.130
  • I'm, like, "Oh, God, forgive me
  • 00:55:43.130 --> 00:55:45.030
  • for being an unfaithful servant.
  • 00:55:45.030 --> 00:55:46.130
  • What did I get us--what did I
  • 00:55:46.130 --> 00:55:47.160
  • get our church into?"
  • 00:55:47.160 --> 00:55:49.020
  • You know, people call me a great
  • 00:55:49.020 --> 00:55:49.290
  • man of faith.
  • 00:55:49.290 --> 00:55:50.230
  • It's, like, no, I actually had
  • 00:55:50.230 --> 00:55:51.240
  • a little faith but it was in
  • 00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:53.100
  • a huge God.
  • 00:55:53.100 --> 00:55:54.270
  • sudden I'm freaking out this one
  • 00:55:56.290 --> 00:55:58.060
  • morning.
  • 00:55:58.060 --> 00:55:59.030
  • We're 3 weeks into it.
  • 00:55:59.030 --> 00:56:00.030
  • I'm, like, "God, what are we
  • 00:56:00.030 --> 00:56:00.250
  • gonna do?"
  • 00:56:00.250 --> 00:56:01.130
  • We have, like, $4.000 left in
  • 00:56:01.130 --> 00:56:03.000
  • our checking account.
  • 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:04.010
  • I took us down to nothing.
  • 00:56:04.010 --> 00:56:05.140
  • I can't even pay my pastors.
  • 00:56:06.270 --> 00:56:08.080
  • And I'm sitting there, like,
  • 00:56:08.080 --> 00:56:09.040
  • "What have I done?"
  • 00:56:09.040 --> 00:56:10.080
  • So I go to the bank--I mean, not
  • 00:56:10.080 --> 00:56:11.250
  • the bank but the post office
  • 00:56:11.250 --> 00:56:13.000
  • that morning.
  • 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:14.120
  • I get this whole stack of mail.
  • 00:56:14.120 --> 00:56:15.160
  • It's bills, junk mail.
  • 00:56:15.160 --> 00:56:16.190
  • We get that every week, you
  • 00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:17.140
  • know, it's just--you get all
  • 00:56:17.140 --> 00:56:18.050
  • kinds of stuff.
  • 00:56:18.050 --> 00:56:19.000
  • All of a sudden, there's a
  • 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:19.190
  • letter in there.
  • 00:56:19.190 --> 00:56:20.050
  • "Hey, Pastor, we heard you on
  • 00:56:20.050 --> 00:56:20.260
  • your radio program.
  • 00:56:20.260 --> 00:56:21.190
  • You got that building.
  • 00:56:21.190 --> 00:56:22.240
  • Hey, here's $500 for your
  • 00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:24.000
  • building."
  • 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.000
  • "Hey, Pastor, here, we heard you
  • 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:25.260
  • on the radio."
  • 00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:26.210
  • "Hey, Pastor, I was in your
  • 00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:27.180
  • youth group 10 years ago at
  • 00:56:27.180 --> 00:56:28.250
  • Harvest.
  • 00:56:28.250 --> 00:56:29.220
  • Here's $100 for your building."
  • 00:56:29.220 --> 00:56:30.290
  • $1.000 here, $500 there.
  • 00:56:30.290 --> 00:56:33.160
  • And I'm going down this pile.
  • 00:56:33.160 --> 00:56:35.110
  • There was a guy that worked for
  • 00:56:35.110 --> 00:56:36.250
  • me when I was living on the East
  • 00:56:36.250 --> 00:56:38.050
  • Coast, him and his wife sent
  • 00:56:38.050 --> 00:56:39.210
  • $10.000.
  • 00:56:39.210 --> 00:56:41.130
  • So when I get to the bottom,
  • 00:56:41.130 --> 00:56:43.080
  • the very last thing on my lap.
  • 00:56:43.080 --> 00:56:44.220
  • I'm in the parking lot of the
  • 00:56:44.220 --> 00:56:45.200
  • post office.
  • 00:56:45.200 --> 00:56:46.260
  • The very last thing on my lap
  • 00:56:46.260 --> 00:56:48.150
  • was this letter.
  • 00:56:48.150 --> 00:56:49.190
  • Looked like a 5-year-old wrote
  • 00:56:49.190 --> 00:56:50.210
  • on it.
  • 00:56:50.210 --> 00:56:51.130
  • I open it up.
  • 00:56:51.130 --> 00:56:52.130
  • It's a check and the names have
  • 00:56:52.130 --> 00:56:53.260
  • a black marker through 'em.
  • 00:56:53.260 --> 00:56:55.100
  • It's just a regular check, like
  • 00:56:55.100 --> 00:56:56.110
  • you pay your bills with.
  • 00:56:56.110 --> 00:56:57.040
  • $100.000.
  • 00:56:57.040 --> 00:56:59.190
  • So that--from the beginning of
  • 00:56:59.190 --> 00:57:01.160
  • that pile to the end of that
  • 00:57:01.160 --> 00:57:03.030
  • pile, $130.000.
  • 00:57:03.030 --> 00:57:05.220
  • And I'm, like,
  • 00:57:05.220 --> 00:57:06.160
  • "Rise up and build."
  • 00:57:06.160 --> 00:57:08.000
  • And so we started the project,
  • 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.290
  • you know?
  • 00:57:09.290 --> 00:57:10.210
  • We're thinking, like, "Well, I'm
  • 00:57:10.210 --> 00:57:11.130
  • just gonna go until we stop,"
  • 00:57:11.130 --> 00:57:12.170
  • you know.
  • 00:57:12.170 --> 00:57:13.080
  • So we got everyone going.
  • 00:57:13.080 --> 00:57:14.090
  • We got the plumbers going, the
  • 00:57:14.090 --> 00:57:15.070
  • electricians going.
  • 00:57:15.070 --> 00:57:16.060
  • All of this, we did all this,
  • 00:57:16.060 --> 00:57:18.030
  • praise to God, everyone working
  • 00:57:18.030 --> 00:57:19.110
  • on the building.
  • 00:57:19.110 --> 00:57:20.010
  • We worked on that thing
  • 00:57:20.010 --> 00:57:21.020
  • for a year.
  • 00:57:21.020 --> 00:57:22.020
  • We moved in a year later.
  • 00:57:22.020 --> 00:57:23.290
  • We did that $1.8 million
  • 00:57:23.290 --> 00:57:26.010
  • build-out for $1.2 million.
  • 00:57:26.010 --> 00:57:28.070
  • The day we moved in, everything
  • 00:57:28.070 --> 00:57:29.160
  • was paid for cash.
  • 00:57:29.160 --> 00:57:30.200
  • And there we are, and now we're
  • 00:57:30.200 --> 00:57:32.040
  • a church of 2.000 people in
  • 00:57:32.040 --> 00:57:34.030
  • Los Angeles.
  • 00:57:34.030 --> 00:57:35.260
  • Crazy.
  • 00:57:35.260 --> 00:57:37.240
  • - Samuel: Turning on the
  • 00:57:37.240 --> 00:57:38.130
  • lights.
  • 00:57:38.130 --> 00:57:39.030
  • - Steve: Ha, ha, ha.
  • 00:57:39.030 --> 00:57:39.270
  • - Samuel: Turning on the light
  • 00:57:39.270 --> 00:57:40.190
  • in one of the darkest areas of
  • 00:57:40.190 --> 00:57:41.130
  • the country.
  • 00:57:41.130 --> 00:57:42.020
  • - Steve: Yes.
  • 00:57:42.020 --> 00:57:42.260
  • - Samuel: Indeed.
  • 00:57:42.260 --> 00:57:43.290
  • But your faith--what, literally,
  • 00:57:43.290 --> 00:57:45.080
  • what compelled you and drove
  • 00:57:45.080 --> 00:57:46.210
  • you?
  • 00:57:46.210 --> 00:57:47.150
  • The audacity of, yeah, $600.000,
  • 00:57:47.150 --> 00:57:50.020
  • non-refundable, indeed.
  • 00:57:50.020 --> 00:57:52.230
  • What drove you to take that
  • 00:57:52.230 --> 00:57:54.050
  • absurd, radical, unorthodox step
  • 00:57:54.190 --> 00:57:57.190
  • of faith?
  • 00:57:57.190 --> 00:57:58.090
  • What drove you?
  • 00:57:58.090 --> 00:57:59.060
  • - Steve: Well, what drove me
  • 00:57:59.060 --> 00:58:00.040
  • was I had a peace inside.
  • 00:58:00.040 --> 00:58:02.080
  • I felt that God told me that he
  • 00:58:02.080 --> 00:58:03.230
  • was gonna give us that building.
  • 00:58:03.230 --> 00:58:05.230
  • And so I just was--I was driven.
  • 00:58:05.230 --> 00:58:07.280
  • I was like a man that was just
  • 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.080
  • obsessed.
  • 00:58:10.080 --> 00:58:10.290
  • It was, like, "We are going to
  • 00:58:10.290 --> 00:58:11.230
  • get this building."
  • 00:58:11.230 --> 00:58:12.210
  • Everyone's looking at me, like,
  • 00:58:12.210 --> 00:58:13.140
  • "You've lost your mind."
  • 00:58:13.140 --> 00:58:15.110
  • Everyone told me that.
  • 00:58:15.110 --> 00:58:16.050
  • All my pastor friends told me
  • 00:58:16.050 --> 00:58:17.030
  • that.
  • 00:58:17.030 --> 00:58:17.230
  • They said, "Listen, why don't
  • 00:58:17.230 --> 00:58:18.210
  • you just go lease a building?"
  • 00:58:18.210 --> 00:58:19.250
  • I'm, like, "No," because I knew
  • 00:58:19.250 --> 00:58:21.020
  • the survival of Core Church
  • 00:58:21.020 --> 00:58:22.290
  • Los Angeles in L.A.
  • 00:58:22.290 --> 00:58:24.160
  • was you're gonna have to have a
  • 00:58:24.160 --> 00:58:25.140
  • building, 'cause the rent is so
  • 00:58:25.140 --> 00:58:27.020
  • high.
  • 00:58:27.020 --> 00:58:27.240
  • It's $4 to $5, $6 a square foot
  • 00:58:27.240 --> 00:58:29.130
  • to rent some--I knew our
  • 00:58:29.130 --> 00:58:30.180
  • survival was owning a building
  • 00:58:30.180 --> 00:58:32.190
  • and we are there from now
  • 00:58:32.190 --> 00:58:34.050
  • until Jesus comes back.
  • 00:58:34.050 --> 00:58:35.260
  • - Samuel: Pastor Steve, there
  • 00:58:35.260 --> 00:58:36.170
  • are people right now, watching
  • 00:58:36.170 --> 00:58:37.140
  • this program.
  • 00:58:37.140 --> 00:58:38.160
  • People right now who have
  • 00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:39.280
  • a promise from God.
  • 00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.240
  • And just like Pastor Steve,
  • 00:58:41.240 --> 00:58:43.030
  • they know that they know that
  • 00:58:43.030 --> 00:58:44.230
  • they know that it's not them.
  • 00:58:44.230 --> 00:58:46.230
  • They have a promise from God but
  • 00:58:46.230 --> 00:58:48.090
  • they're facing very serious
  • 00:58:48.090 --> 00:58:50.010
  • circumstances, obstacles,
  • 00:58:50.010 --> 00:58:51.180
  • hurdles, hindrances.
  • 00:58:51.180 --> 00:58:53.040
  • $600.000 non-refundable.
  • 00:58:54.080 --> 00:58:57.080
  • The day of the closing, you have
  • 00:58:57.080 --> 00:58:59.240
  • a peace that passes all
  • 00:58:59.240 --> 00:59:01.000
  • understanding.
  • 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:02.180
  • A guy calls you, meets you at a
  • 00:59:02.180 --> 00:59:04.030
  • bank, and wires money into your
  • 00:59:04.030 --> 00:59:05.250
  • account.
  • 00:59:05.250 --> 00:59:06.190
  • - Steve: Yeah.
  • 00:59:06.190 --> 00:59:07.070
  • - Samuel: That's the kind of
  • 00:59:07.070 --> 00:59:07.280
  • God we serve.
  • 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:08.130
  • - Steve: Yeah, amen.
  • 00:59:08.130 --> 00:59:09.030
  • - Samuel: That's the kind of
  • 00:59:09.030 --> 00:59:10.070
  • God we serve.
  • 00:59:10.070 --> 00:59:11.000
  • - Steve: Amen, amen.
  • 00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:12.220
  • - Samuel: You can't make this
  • 00:59:12.220 --> 00:59:13.160
  • stuff up, man.
  • 00:59:13.160 --> 00:59:15.000
  • That is the kind of God we
  • 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:15.250
  • serve.
  • 00:59:15.250 --> 00:59:16.240
  • Speak right now.
  • 00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:18.070
  • Pray over every single person
  • 00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:19.210
  • who says, "I have that.
  • 00:59:19.210 --> 00:59:21.070
  • I have a dream, I have a
  • 00:59:21.070 --> 00:59:22.150
  • destiny.
  • 00:59:22.150 --> 00:59:23.140
  • God has called me for greater
  • 00:59:23.140 --> 00:59:24.160
  • things but I'm facing every
  • 00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:26.040
  • possible obstacle and hindrance
  • 00:59:26.040 --> 00:59:27.230
  • in the world."
  • 00:59:27.230 --> 00:59:28.150
  • Speak to them right now.
  • 00:59:28.150 --> 00:59:29.160
  • - Steve: Well, first, I wanna
  • 00:59:29.160 --> 00:59:30.070
  • say, God blesses obedience.
  • 00:59:30.070 --> 00:59:33.050
  • We need to walk in his Word.
  • 00:59:33.050 --> 00:59:35.240
  • It's like, you know, when God
  • 00:59:35.240 --> 00:59:37.030
  • calls us, he calls us to live
  • 00:59:37.030 --> 00:59:39.200
  • a lifestyle that's well pleasing
  • 00:59:39.200 --> 00:59:41.160
  • to him.
  • 00:59:41.160 --> 00:59:42.090
  • You know, so many times, you
  • 00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:43.180
  • know, we want the blessing, we
  • 00:59:43.180 --> 00:59:45.060
  • want the miracle, but we're not
  • 00:59:45.060 --> 00:59:46.100
  • willing to walk the walk.
  • 00:59:46.100 --> 00:59:48.000
  • So you know, I--my first word of
  • 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.050
  • encouragement is
  • 00:59:50.050 --> 00:59:51.110
  • look at your life.
  • 00:59:51.110 --> 00:59:52.130
  • Examine yourself.
  • 00:59:52.130 --> 00:59:53.240
  • The Bible says scrutinize your
  • 00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:54.280
  • own heart in your own life.
  • 00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.250
  • And as you get on your face
  • 00:59:56.250 --> 00:59:58.150
  • before God, you gotta know is
  • 00:59:58.150 --> 00:59:59.200
  • this God's will?
  • 00:59:59.200 --> 01:00:01.070
  • Is it his desire?
  • 01:00:01.070 --> 01:00:02.100
  • Is it his passion?
  • 01:00:02.100 --> 01:00:03.080
  • Is this the path that he wants
  • 01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:05.020
  • me on?
  • 01:00:05.020 --> 01:00:05.240
  • If it is, then you have to hang
  • 01:00:05.240 --> 01:00:07.280
  • on every word that he's given
  • 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.160
  • you because God has made
  • 01:00:09.160 --> 01:00:11.290
  • promises to us that are bigger
  • 01:00:11.290 --> 01:00:14.090
  • than we could ever imagine.
  • 01:00:14.090 --> 01:00:16.030
  • And so if--I wanna pray for you
  • 01:00:16.030 --> 01:00:17.180
  • right now.
  • 01:00:17.180 --> 01:00:18.120
  • I wanna pray that first of all
  • 01:00:18.120 --> 01:00:20.000
  • you get right with Christ.
  • 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:21.170
  • Lord Jesus, I pray that every
  • 01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:23.030
  • single person, God, that there
  • 01:00:23.030 --> 01:00:25.050
  • would be a repentance in their
  • 01:00:25.050 --> 01:00:26.120
  • hearts, that the desire would
  • 01:00:26.120 --> 01:00:28.190
  • be to say, "God, forgive me
  • 01:00:28.190 --> 01:00:30.150
  • for the things I've done wrong.
  • 01:00:30.150 --> 01:00:32.050
  • But God, I know that you love me
  • 01:00:32.050 --> 01:00:33.100
  • because you're a God of love.
  • 01:00:33.100 --> 01:00:35.130
  • I know that your thoughts toward
  • 01:00:35.130 --> 01:00:37.110
  • me are precious.
  • 01:00:37.110 --> 01:00:38.160
  • That's what you said to me
  • 01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:39.180
  • in Psalm 139.
  • 01:00:39.180 --> 01:00:41.110
  • And I just pray now that, in
  • 01:00:41.110 --> 01:00:43.000
  • the name of Jesus, that the Lord
  • 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.060
  • God's will would be done in your
  • 01:00:45.060 --> 01:00:47.030
  • life.
  • 01:00:47.030 --> 01:00:47.220
  • Not your will, not someone else
  • 01:00:47.220 --> 01:00:49.220
  • around you's will, but the God
  • 01:00:49.220 --> 01:00:52.070
  • of all creation because his
  • 01:00:52.070 --> 01:00:53.210
  • purpose for you, his plan for
  • 01:00:53.210 --> 01:00:55.260
  • you, is that you would be first
  • 01:00:56.050 --> 01:00:59.050
  • his son, his daughter, and that
  • 01:00:59.050 --> 01:01:01.200
  • you would rise up to be
  • 01:01:01.200 --> 01:01:02.250
  • everything that he's called you
  • 01:01:02.250 --> 01:01:03.280
  • to be.
  • 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:04.290
  • And that God's will would just
  • 01:01:04.290 --> 01:01:06.000
  • unfold in your life as his will
  • 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.190
  • would permit, in Jesus' name,
  • 01:01:08.190 --> 01:01:10.240
  • amen.
  • 01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:11.260
  • - Samuel: Amen.
  • 01:01:11.260 --> 01:01:12.210
  • Wonderful.
  • 01:01:12.210 --> 01:01:15.040
  • Pastor Steve, you're a blessing,
  • 01:01:15.040 --> 01:01:16.110
  • indeed.
  • 01:01:16.110 --> 01:01:17.010
  • God bless you, my friend.
  • 01:01:17.010 --> 01:01:18.140
  • We either curse the darkness or
  • 01:01:19.080 --> 01:01:22.080
  • turn on the light and right now
  • 01:01:22.080 --> 01:01:24.050
  • as I speak, right now, there is
  • 01:01:24.050 --> 01:01:26.090
  • light even in the midst of
  • 01:01:26.090 --> 01:01:27.240
  • Hollywood and the movie
  • 01:01:27.240 --> 01:01:29.280
  • industry.
  • 01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:30.250
  • There is a film literally just
  • 01:01:30.250 --> 01:01:32.210
  • taking the world by storm.
  • 01:01:32.210 --> 01:01:34.050
  • Let's watch,
  • 01:01:34.050 --> 01:01:34.250
  • - Kevin Beam: Cheers.
  • 01:01:41.240 --> 01:01:42.260
  • - all: Cheers!
  • 01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:45.080
  • - Christy Beam: Today, let's
  • 01:01:45.080 --> 01:01:45.290
  • do Benjamin Franklin.
  • 01:01:45.290 --> 01:01:46.260
  • "An investment in knowledge
  • 01:01:46.260 --> 01:01:47.230
  • pays the best--"
  • 01:01:47.230 --> 01:01:48.250
  • - Christy and Abbie Beam:
  • 01:01:48.250 --> 01:01:50.020
  • "Interest."
  • 01:01:50.020 --> 01:01:50.230
  • - Christy: Okay, listen to your
  • 01:01:50.230 --> 01:01:51.160
  • teachers.
  • 01:01:51.160 --> 01:01:52.050
  • - Anna: Love you.
  • 01:01:52.050 --> 01:01:52.250
  • - Christy: Love you.
  • 01:01:52.250 --> 01:01:54.220
  • - Kevin: It's a good life.
  • 01:01:54.220 --> 01:01:55.280
  • It's a good--
  • 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.100
  • - Christy: It's a good life.
  • 01:01:57.100 --> 01:01:59.160
  • - Anna: Mommy!
  • 01:01:59.160 --> 01:02:00.190
  • Mommy!
  • 01:02:00.190 --> 01:02:02.030
  • Mommy!
  • 01:02:02.030 --> 01:02:04.010
  • - Christy: I'm coming.
  • 01:02:04.010 --> 01:02:05.070
  • - Anna: Mommy, it hurts.
  • 01:02:05.070 --> 01:02:06.060
  • - Christy: Oh, no.
  • 01:02:06.060 --> 01:02:07.030
  • Baby.
  • 01:02:07.030 --> 01:02:08.160
  • - Christy: When Anna got sick,
  • 01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:09.270
  • I just couldn't understand it.
  • 01:02:09.270 --> 01:02:11.190
  • Why was this loving little girl
  • 01:02:11.190 --> 01:02:13.030
  • going through this?
  • 01:02:13.030 --> 01:02:14.200
  • - doctor: I think your daughter
  • 01:02:14.200 --> 01:02:15.160
  • is lactose intolerant.
  • 01:02:15.160 --> 01:02:16.190
  • - doctor: Acid reflux.
  • 01:02:16.190 --> 01:02:17.120
  • - doctor: Everything looks
  • 01:02:17.120 --> 01:02:18.020
  • okay.
  • 01:02:18.020 --> 01:02:18.160
  • - doctor: Everything's fine.
  • 01:02:18.160 --> 01:02:19.070
  • - Christy: Everything is not
  • 01:02:19.070 --> 01:02:20.020
  • fine.
  • 01:02:20.020 --> 01:02:20.210
  • There's something wrong with our
  • 01:02:20.210 --> 01:02:21.160
  • little girl.
  • 01:02:21.160 --> 01:02:22.130
  • - doctor: Mrs. Beam, you need
  • 01:02:22.130 --> 01:02:23.040
  • to calm down.
  • 01:02:23.040 --> 01:02:23.270
  • - Christy: I'm not leaving
  • 01:02:23.270 --> 01:02:24.200
  • this hospital until I know
  • 01:02:24.200 --> 01:02:25.110
  • [music]
  • 01:02:27.260 --> 01:02:29.210
  • - doctor: Unfortunately,
  • 01:02:29.210 --> 01:02:30.100
  • the tests confirm that
  • 01:02:30.100 --> 01:02:31.100
  • she's very ill.
  • 01:02:31.100 --> 01:02:32.160
  • There is currently no cure for
  • 01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:33.250
  • Anna's condition.
  • 01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:35.110
  • - Christy: Doctor, please, this
  • 01:02:35.110 --> 01:02:36.130
  • is our little girl.
  • 01:02:37.020 --> 01:02:40.020
  • - Abbie: I'm scared, Mom.
  • 01:02:40.020 --> 01:02:41.100
  • - Christy: Me too.
  • 01:02:41.100 --> 01:02:43.000
  • - Christy: We're not giving up.
  • 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.040
  • Like a small boat
  • 01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:47.190
  • on the ocean.
  • 01:02:47.190 --> 01:02:49.040
  • - Christy: We need a solution.
  • 01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:50.090
  • And we need it now!
  • 01:02:50.090 --> 01:02:52.060
  • - Kevin: I'm gonna get it.
  • 01:02:52.060 --> 01:02:53.000
  • - Christy: How?
  • 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:53.270
  • - Kevin: By not losing our
  • 01:02:53.270 --> 01:02:55.110
  • faith.
  • 01:02:55.110 --> 01:02:57.070
  • - Angela: How long you been
  • 01:02:57.070 --> 01:02:58.130
  • married?
  • 01:02:58.130 --> 01:02:59.100
  • - Christy: Fourteen years.
  • 01:02:59.100 --> 01:03:01.270
  • - Christy: Free her from this.
  • 01:03:01.270 --> 01:03:03.250
  • - Christy: Can you even hear
  • 01:03:03.250 --> 01:03:05.000
  • [music]
  • 01:03:11.110 --> 01:03:13.180
  • This is my fight song.
  • 01:03:13.180 --> 01:03:15.240
  • Take back my life song.
  • 01:03:15.240 --> 01:03:18.050
  • - Christy: So you're telling me
  • 01:03:18.050 --> 01:03:18.280
  • that when this baby girl fell
  • 01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:20.030
  • 30 feet, she hit her head just
  • 01:03:20.030 --> 01:03:21.280
  • right and it didn't kill her
  • 01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.020
  • and it didn't paralyze her.
  • 01:03:23.020 --> 01:03:25.100
  • It healed her.
  • 01:03:25.100 --> 01:03:26.260
  • - doctor: Yes.
  • 01:03:26.260 --> 01:03:28.070
  • - Christy: Well, that's
  • 01:03:28.070 --> 01:03:28.260
  • impossible.
  • 01:03:28.260 --> 01:03:30.020
  • [music]
  • 01:03:30.020 --> 01:03:32.090
  • - male: This is a little hard
  • 01:03:32.090 --> 01:03:33.000
  • to believe.
  • 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:33.200
  • - male: There's a lot of people
  • 01:03:33.200 --> 01:03:34.120
  • out there that are just looking
  • 01:03:34.120 --> 01:03:35.040
  • for publicity.
  • 01:03:35.040 --> 01:03:37.040
  • - Christy: A lot of people
  • 01:03:37.040 --> 01:03:38.050
  • think we're crazy.
  • 01:03:38.050 --> 01:03:39.190
  • - Angela: You either roll with
  • 01:03:39.190 --> 01:03:40.110
  • or you get rolled on.
  • 01:03:40.110 --> 01:03:41.260
  • [music]
  • 01:03:41.260 --> 01:03:44.210
  • 'Cause I've still got
  • 01:03:44.210 --> 01:03:46.090
  • a lot of fight left in me.
  • 01:03:46.170 --> 01:03:49.170
  • - Anna: He told me I'd be fine.
  • 01:03:49.170 --> 01:03:52.050
  • I've still got
  • 01:03:52.050 --> 01:03:53.010
  • a lot of fight left--
  • 01:03:53.010 --> 01:03:54.120
  • - Christy: Who told you
  • 01:03:54.120 --> 01:03:55.010
  • you'd be fine?
  • 01:03:55.010 --> 01:03:56.040
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:03:59.000 --> 01:03:59.270
  • - Samuel: Woo!
  • 01:04:00.170 --> 01:04:03.170
  • "Miracles From Heaven."
  • 01:04:03.170 --> 01:04:04.270
  • We heard Joyce Smith and John
  • 01:04:04.270 --> 01:04:06.000
  • Smith and Jason Noble and we
  • 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.190
  • heard Pastor Steve's miracle and
  • 01:04:07.190 --> 01:04:09.040
  • I have the blessing
  • 01:04:09.040 --> 01:04:11.140
  • to have with me a friend.
  • 01:04:11.140 --> 01:04:13.110
  • I love this man.
  • 01:04:13.110 --> 01:04:14.050
  • He's amazing.
  • 01:04:14.050 --> 01:04:15.060
  • He is an anointed man of God.
  • 01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:16.220
  • He's a preacher, but he is very
  • 01:04:16.220 --> 01:04:18.290
  • involved, and I mean intricately
  • 01:04:18.290 --> 01:04:21.010
  • involved, in Hollywood.
  • 01:04:21.010 --> 01:04:22.180
  • And in "Be Light," talking about
  • 01:04:22.180 --> 01:04:24.130
  • cursing darkness, as Christians,
  • 01:04:24.130 --> 01:04:25.260
  • we just spend our time either,
  • 01:04:25.260 --> 01:04:27.230
  • you know, unfortunately,
  • 01:04:27.230 --> 01:04:29.080
  • to a great degree,
  • 01:04:29.080 --> 01:04:30.210
  • we're cursing darkness.
  • 01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:32.110
  • And we're whining and
  • 01:04:32.110 --> 01:04:33.060
  • complaining about how dark
  • 01:04:33.060 --> 01:04:34.120
  • things are.
  • 01:04:34.120 --> 01:04:35.090
  • Instead of just turning on
  • 01:04:35.090 --> 01:04:36.280
  • the light.
  • 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.050
  • And instead of complaining about
  • 01:04:38.050 --> 01:04:39.060
  • things, DeVon Franklin--first of
  • 01:04:39.060 --> 01:04:40.290
  • all, help me welcome
  • 01:04:40.290 --> 01:04:42.060
  • DeVon Franklin, the producer
  • 01:04:42.060 --> 01:04:43.250
  • of "Miracles From Heaven."
  • 01:04:43.250 --> 01:04:44.280
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:45.200
  • - DeVon Franklin: Thank you.
  • 01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:46.160
  • Thanks for having me, man.
  • 01:04:46.160 --> 01:04:47.110
  • - Samuel: Man, great to have
  • 01:04:47.110 --> 01:04:48.020
  • you here.
  • 01:04:48.020 --> 01:04:48.270
  • - DeVon: I appreciate it.
  • 01:04:48.270 --> 01:04:49.160
  • I really do.
  • 01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:50.050
  • - Samuel: We got much to talk
  • 01:04:50.050 --> 01:04:50.260
  • about.
  • 01:04:50.260 --> 01:04:51.160
  • - DeVon: Yes.
  • 01:04:51.160 --> 01:04:52.060
  • - Samuel: First of all,
  • 01:04:52.060 --> 01:04:52.240
  • "Miracles From Heaven,"
  • 01:04:52.240 --> 01:04:53.160
  • you're the producer.
  • 01:04:53.160 --> 01:04:54.180
  • Jennifer Garner.
  • 01:04:54.180 --> 01:04:55.210
  • Tell us a little bit about
  • 01:04:55.210 --> 01:04:56.140
  • the film, the story narrative
  • 01:04:56.140 --> 01:04:57.170
  • behind it.
  • 01:04:57.170 --> 01:04:58.100
  • said, "Let's do this film."
  • 01:05:00.210 --> 01:05:01.290
  • - DeVon: Yeah, it's the first
  • 01:05:01.290 --> 01:05:03.150
  • film I've produced from my own
  • 01:05:03.150 --> 01:05:04.140
  • company, Franklin Entertainment.
  • 01:05:04.140 --> 01:05:05.230
  • I quit my job--we'll talk about
  • 01:05:05.230 --> 01:05:06.260
  • that in a second--to produce
  • 01:05:06.260 --> 01:05:08.050
  • this film and this film, as you
  • 01:05:08.050 --> 01:05:09.200
  • can see by the trailer,
  • 01:05:09.200 --> 01:05:10.190
  • it's a true story.
  • 01:05:10.190 --> 01:05:11.140
  • God showing up in the most
  • 01:05:13.160 --> 01:05:14.200
  • miraculous way.
  • 01:05:14.200 --> 01:05:16.090
  • Annabel Beam was a young girl
  • 01:05:16.090 --> 01:05:17.160
  • from Burleson, Texas.
  • 01:05:17.160 --> 01:05:18.260
  • At the age of five, she gets
  • 01:05:18.260 --> 01:05:20.050
  • this disease called pseudo
  • 01:05:20.050 --> 01:05:21.190
  • obstruction motility disorder,
  • 01:05:21.190 --> 01:05:23.120
  • which basically means she can't
  • 01:05:23.120 --> 01:05:24.220
  • digest solid food.
  • 01:05:24.220 --> 01:05:26.090
  • For 90% of the time, she's in
  • 01:05:26.090 --> 01:05:28.050
  • the fetal position at home in
  • 01:05:28.050 --> 01:05:29.190
  • pain.
  • 01:05:29.190 --> 01:05:30.170
  • It's that difficult.
  • 01:05:30.170 --> 01:05:31.230
  • And as a kid, because she can't
  • 01:05:31.230 --> 01:05:33.170
  • digest food, her stomach starts
  • 01:05:33.170 --> 01:05:34.250
  • to get distended.
  • 01:05:34.250 --> 01:05:36.080
  • So her mother has to buy
  • 01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:37.110
  • different clothes for her to be
  • 01:05:37.110 --> 01:05:38.170
  • able to hide her stomach.
  • 01:05:38.170 --> 01:05:39.280
  • Her mom, Christy Beam, basically
  • 01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:41.130
  • becomes a champion for her
  • 01:05:41.130 --> 01:05:42.240
  • daughter's healing.
  • 01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:44.000
  • And she will not stop until she
  • 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:44.290
  • finds a doctor who will
  • 01:05:44.290 --> 01:05:46.290
  • adequately diagnose what's going
  • 01:05:46.290 --> 01:05:48.260
  • on and then treat her.
  • 01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:50.190
  • And finally, through the grace
  • 01:05:50.190 --> 01:05:52.020
  • of God, they're able to get in
  • 01:05:52.020 --> 01:05:53.000
  • to see Dr. Nurko.
  • 01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:54.070
  • He's a doctor at Boston
  • 01:05:54.070 --> 01:05:55.100
  • Children's Hospital, who is the
  • 01:05:55.100 --> 01:05:57.000
  • world renowned specialist in the
  • 01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:58.160
  • disease that Annabel has.
  • 01:05:58.160 --> 01:06:00.180
  • After he treats her for some
  • 01:06:00.180 --> 01:06:01.220
  • time, Annabel--the disease
  • 01:06:01.220 --> 01:06:03.250
  • subsides but it doesn't get
  • 01:06:03.250 --> 01:06:05.040
  • better.
  • 01:06:05.040 --> 01:06:06.080
  • And Annabel gets to the point
  • 01:06:06.080 --> 01:06:07.120
  • where she goes to her mother and
  • 01:06:07.120 --> 01:06:08.180
  • father and says, "I wanna go to
  • 01:06:08.180 --> 01:06:10.210
  • heaven where there's no pain.
  • 01:06:10.210 --> 01:06:13.120
  • I can't handle it any longer."
  • 01:06:13.120 --> 01:06:16.040
  • And her mother says,
  • 01:06:16.040 --> 01:06:17.060
  • "No, you can't do that.
  • 01:06:17.060 --> 01:06:18.070
  • No, no, you have to stay with
  • 01:06:18.070 --> 01:06:19.140
  • me and Daddy.
  • 01:06:19.140 --> 01:06:20.100
  • We would miss you.
  • 01:06:20.100 --> 01:06:20.290
  • You can't do that."
  • 01:06:20.290 --> 01:06:21.200
  • And soon thereafter,
  • 01:06:21.200 --> 01:06:23.180
  • God shows up.
  • 01:06:23.180 --> 01:06:25.000
  • Annabel--by this time, Annabel
  • 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.240
  • is almost 9 years old, a little
  • 01:06:26.240 --> 01:06:28.180
  • over 9 years old, so she's
  • 01:06:28.180 --> 01:06:29.160
  • suffered for 4 years with this
  • 01:06:29.160 --> 01:06:30.230
  • disease.
  • 01:06:30.230 --> 01:06:31.220
  • Her and her sister are playing
  • 01:06:31.220 --> 01:06:32.240
  • on a tree and it's a tree on
  • 01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:34.070
  • their property.
  • 01:06:34.070 --> 01:06:35.040
  • It's this old cottonwood tree.
  • 01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:36.090
  • It's been around for almost
  • 01:06:36.090 --> 01:06:37.010
  • 100 years.
  • 01:06:37.010 --> 01:06:37.260
  • They go up, they're playing on
  • 01:06:37.260 --> 01:06:38.280
  • the branch.
  • 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:39.190
  • The branch begins to break.
  • 01:06:39.190 --> 01:06:40.200
  • Her older sister, Abbie, says,
  • 01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:42.070
  • you know, says to Annabel, "Get
  • 01:06:42.070 --> 01:06:43.270
  • to the middle of the tree."
  • 01:06:43.270 --> 01:06:45.060
  • Annabel gets to the middle of
  • 01:06:45.060 --> 01:06:46.060
  • the tree and, instead of it
  • 01:06:46.060 --> 01:06:47.150
  • being solid, there's a hole.
  • 01:06:47.150 --> 01:06:49.120
  • She falls inside the tree,
  • 01:06:49.120 --> 01:06:50.270
  • headfirst.
  • 01:06:50.270 --> 01:06:51.280
  • Hits her head three times.
  • 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:53.100
  • She's trapped inside
  • 01:06:53.100 --> 01:06:54.170
  • the base of the tree.
  • 01:06:54.170 --> 01:06:56.070
  • They call the EMT and the
  • 01:06:56.070 --> 01:06:58.050
  • paramedics and the police and
  • 01:06:58.050 --> 01:06:59.100
  • the fire department.
  • 01:06:59.100 --> 01:07:00.080
  • Everyone comes out.
  • 01:07:00.080 --> 01:07:01.040
  • It takes 5 hours to rescue her
  • 01:07:01.040 --> 01:07:02.150
  • out of that tree.
  • 01:07:02.150 --> 01:07:03.190
  • When they get her to Fort Worth
  • 01:07:03.190 --> 01:07:04.250
  • Hospital, the emergency room
  • 01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:06.080
  • doctors tells her parents,
  • 01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:07.170
  • "Don't have any hope.
  • 01:07:07.170 --> 01:07:09.000
  • I have never seen anyone fall
  • 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.180
  • headfirst from this height and
  • 01:07:11.180 --> 01:07:12.210
  • not only survive but come out
  • 01:07:12.210 --> 01:07:14.180
  • paralyzed."
  • 01:07:14.180 --> 01:07:15.090
  • He said, "Don't have hope."
  • 01:07:15.090 --> 01:07:16.110
  • When he investigates her and he
  • 01:07:16.110 --> 01:07:18.060
  • examines her, he comes out with
  • 01:07:18.060 --> 01:07:19.210
  • this weird look on his face.
  • 01:07:19.210 --> 01:07:21.270
  • He said, "That little girl must
  • 01:07:21.270 --> 01:07:22.250
  • have been with Jesus."
  • 01:07:22.250 --> 01:07:23.250
  • He said, "Because she has no
  • 01:07:23.250 --> 01:07:24.240
  • broken bones.
  • 01:07:24.240 --> 01:07:25.280
  • She has no bruises.
  • 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:27.040
  • There's no paralysis."
  • 01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:28.100
  • He said, "We're gonna keep her
  • 01:07:28.100 --> 01:07:29.210
  • overnight just to observe her
  • 01:07:29.210 --> 01:07:30.290
  • but really we could let her go
  • 01:07:30.290 --> 01:07:32.020
  • home now."
  • 01:07:32.020 --> 01:07:32.280
  • He said, "I have never seen this
  • 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.060
  • in 25 years, a miracle like this
  • 01:07:34.060 --> 01:07:36.100
  • of a girl falling like that
  • 01:07:36.100 --> 01:07:37.210
  • and being okay," amen, amen.
  • 01:07:38.080 --> 01:07:41.080
  • - Samuel: That's a miracle in
  • 01:07:41.080 --> 01:07:42.000
  • itself.
  • 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:42.200
  • - DeVon: That's a miracle
  • 01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:43.100
  • itself.
  • 01:07:43.100 --> 01:07:43.280
  • - Samuel: Indeed.
  • 01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:44.200
  • - DeVon: But that's not the
  • 01:07:44.200 --> 01:07:45.100
  • miracle.
  • 01:07:45.100 --> 01:07:46.160
  • That's the prelude to the
  • 01:07:46.160 --> 01:07:47.090
  • miracle.
  • 01:07:47.090 --> 01:07:48.170
  • Soon thereafter, she needs no
  • 01:07:48.170 --> 01:07:50.170
  • medication.
  • 01:07:50.170 --> 01:07:51.210
  • All the medication she was on,
  • 01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:52.240
  • she has--she stops taking.
  • 01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:54.020
  • She can eat food.
  • 01:07:54.020 --> 01:07:55.190
  • Her stomach goes down.
  • 01:07:55.190 --> 01:07:57.010
  • And they go to her and her
  • 01:07:57.010 --> 01:07:58.060
  • mother says, "Annabel, what
  • 01:07:58.060 --> 01:07:58.290
  • happened?"
  • 01:07:58.290 --> 01:08:00.050
  • And she says, "Mom, when I was
  • 01:08:00.050 --> 01:08:01.200
  • in that tree, I went to heaven.
  • 01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:04.010
  • And Jesus told me a fireman was
  • 01:08:04.010 --> 01:08:05.260
  • gonna take me out of that tree
  • 01:08:05.260 --> 01:08:07.010
  • and I was gonna be healed."
  • 01:08:07.010 --> 01:08:08.200
  • And from that day to this,
  • 01:08:08.200 --> 01:08:10.290
  • Annabel Beam has been healed and
  • 01:08:10.290 --> 01:08:12.240
  • that's the story of
  • 01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:13.260
  • "Miracles From Heaven."
  • 01:08:13.260 --> 01:08:15.100
  • And we tell it through the eyes
  • 01:08:15.100 --> 01:08:16.050
  • of her mother.
  • 01:08:16.050 --> 01:08:19.010
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:08:19.010 --> 01:08:20.060
  • - Samuel: So she falls in the
  • 01:08:20.060 --> 01:08:21.150
  • tree, inside of a tree.
  • 01:08:21.150 --> 01:08:22.220
  • - DeVon: Yes.
  • 01:08:22.220 --> 01:08:23.210
  • - Samuel: An egregious fall?
  • 01:08:23.210 --> 01:08:24.270
  • - DeVon: Yes.
  • 01:08:24.270 --> 01:08:25.210
  • - Samuel: And not only does she
  • 01:08:25.210 --> 01:08:26.130
  • survive the fall, but the
  • 01:08:26.130 --> 01:08:28.030
  • original illness inside her body
  • 01:08:28.030 --> 01:08:29.060
  • disappeared.
  • 01:08:29.060 --> 01:08:30.290
  • - DeVon: Gone.
  • 01:08:30.290 --> 01:08:32.220
  • - Samuel: Through a fall?
  • 01:08:32.220 --> 01:08:33.120
  • - DeVon: Gone.
  • 01:08:33.120 --> 01:08:34.040
  • And the doctor, Dr. Nurko,
  • 01:08:34.040 --> 01:08:35.110
  • who treated her at Boston's
  • 01:08:35.110 --> 01:08:37.020
  • Children's Hospital, to this
  • 01:08:37.020 --> 01:08:38.080
  • day, he says he has never seen
  • 01:08:38.090 --> 01:08:41.090
  • anything like it.
  • 01:08:41.090 --> 01:08:43.030
  • - Samuel: Only God can make
  • 01:08:43.030 --> 01:08:44.180
  • a mistake into a miracle.
  • 01:08:44.180 --> 01:08:47.090
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:08:47.090 --> 01:08:48.220
  • - DeVon: Right.
  • 01:08:48.220 --> 01:08:49.080
  • - Samuel: Only God can make a
  • 01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:50.000
  • fall into a miracle.
  • 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:50.240
  • - DeVon: That's right, that's
  • 01:08:50.240 --> 01:08:51.150
  • right.
  • 01:08:51.150 --> 01:08:52.060
  • - Samuel: Only God.
  • 01:08:52.060 --> 01:08:52.280
  • - DeVon: Exactly, exactly.
  • 01:08:52.280 --> 01:08:53.230
  • - Samuel: But tell me--I mean,
  • 01:08:53.230 --> 01:08:54.220
  • how in the world did--would
  • 01:08:54.220 --> 01:08:55.260
  • Hollywood be open to creating
  • 01:08:56.030 --> 01:08:59.030
  • space for such an explicitly
  • 01:08:59.030 --> 01:09:01.070
  • - DeVon: Good question.
  • 01:09:03.190 --> 01:09:04.110
  • As an executive, I was at
  • 01:09:04.110 --> 01:09:05.100
  • Columbia Pictures for 10 years.
  • 01:09:05.100 --> 01:09:06.270
  • The last film that I oversaw was
  • 01:09:06.270 --> 01:09:08.090
  • "Heaven Is For Real," which is
  • 01:09:08.090 --> 01:09:09.210
  • the story of Colton Burpo and
  • 01:09:09.210 --> 01:09:11.130
  • heaven.
  • 01:09:12.270 --> 01:09:13.210
  • And that book sold, you know,
  • 01:09:13.210 --> 01:09:14.280
  • over 10 million copies and
  • 01:09:14.280 --> 01:09:16.030
  • the movie came out to about
  • 01:09:16.030 --> 01:09:17.080
  • $30 million and it went on to do
  • 01:09:17.080 --> 01:09:19.040
  • $100 million, but we only made
  • 01:09:19.040 --> 01:09:20.110
  • it for 15.
  • 01:09:20.110 --> 01:09:21.110
  • So the success of that film
  • 01:09:21.110 --> 01:09:22.220
  • basically said to the industry
  • 01:09:22.220 --> 01:09:24.020
  • that there are millions of
  • 01:09:24.020 --> 01:09:25.150
  • people out there that want
  • 01:09:25.150 --> 01:09:27.070
  • different types of films at the
  • 01:09:27.070 --> 01:09:28.240
  • box office.
  • 01:09:28.240 --> 01:09:29.230
  • There are millions of people out
  • 01:09:29.230 --> 01:09:30.280
  • there that don't just want
  • 01:09:30.280 --> 01:09:31.220
  • superheroes crashing through
  • 01:09:31.220 --> 01:09:32.280
  • buildings.
  • 01:09:32.280 --> 01:09:33.150
  • What about the superhero being
  • 01:09:33.150 --> 01:09:35.040
  • the person that has the faith,
  • 01:09:35.040 --> 01:09:36.090
  • which is a superpower to believe
  • 01:09:36.090 --> 01:09:38.200
  • that God is gonna show up and he
  • 01:09:38.200 --> 01:09:40.200
  • does?
  • 01:09:40.200 --> 01:09:41.180
  • And so "Heaven Is For Real"
  • 01:09:41.180 --> 01:09:42.270
  • opened up the door for us to be
  • 01:09:42.270 --> 01:09:44.190
  • able to make films like
  • 01:09:44.190 --> 01:09:45.240
  • "Miracles From Heaven."
  • 01:09:45.240 --> 01:09:46.250
  • So I quit my job as an executive
  • 01:09:46.250 --> 01:09:49.010
  • 'cause God said it was time to
  • 01:09:49.010 --> 01:09:50.090
  • go, time to start your own
  • 01:09:50.090 --> 01:09:51.170
  • company, and I wanted to make
  • 01:09:51.170 --> 01:09:52.150
  • sure that the first film that I
  • 01:09:52.150 --> 01:09:55.000
  • did was a sacrifice and an
  • 01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.050
  • offering back to him, saying,
  • 01:09:57.050 --> 01:09:58.150
  • "God, I'm not gonna go make an
  • 01:09:58.150 --> 01:09:59.140
  • action film.
  • 01:09:59.140 --> 01:10:00.110
  • I'm not gonna go make a
  • 01:10:00.110 --> 01:10:01.170
  • superhero film.
  • 01:10:01.170 --> 01:10:02.100
  • I want the first film to be what
  • 01:10:02.100 --> 01:10:04.150
  • is honoring you, Lord."
  • 01:10:04.150 --> 01:10:06.060
  • And to be able to do "Miracles
  • 01:10:06.060 --> 01:10:07.210
  • From Heaven," amen, as that
  • 01:10:07.210 --> 01:10:10.020
  • first film was opened up because
  • 01:10:10.020 --> 01:10:12.120
  • of "Heaven Is For Real."
  • 01:10:12.120 --> 01:10:13.140
  • And "Heaven--" Let me tell you,
  • 01:10:13.140 --> 01:10:14.190
  • Hollywood, you would--I mean, I
  • 01:10:14.190 --> 01:10:16.210
  • think that the narrative around
  • 01:10:16.210 --> 01:10:18.110
  • Hollywood is really wrong
  • 01:10:18.110 --> 01:10:20.030
  • because, you know, people think,
  • 01:10:20.030 --> 01:10:21.020
  • "Oh, you know, it's Sodom and
  • 01:10:21.020 --> 01:10:22.020
  • Gomorrah," and that, you know,
  • 01:10:22.020 --> 01:10:23.040
  • people--it's the truth.
  • 01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:24.100
  • You would be shocked at how many
  • 01:10:24.130 --> 01:10:27.130
  • people of faith there are in
  • 01:10:27.130 --> 01:10:28.090
  • Hollywood.
  • 01:10:28.090 --> 01:10:29.060
  • You would be shocked at how God
  • 01:10:29.060 --> 01:10:30.100
  • is using people.
  • 01:10:30.100 --> 01:10:31.230
  • When you look at what God did
  • 01:10:31.230 --> 01:10:33.060
  • with Joseph, even when Joseph
  • 01:10:33.060 --> 01:10:36.040
  • was in Potiphar's house, he had
  • 01:10:36.040 --> 01:10:38.080
  • favor.
  • 01:10:38.080 --> 01:10:39.020
  • Even when he worked for Pharaoh,
  • 01:10:39.020 --> 01:10:40.120
  • he had favor.
  • 01:10:40.120 --> 01:10:41.290
  • God would soften the heart of
  • 01:10:41.290 --> 01:10:43.230
  • Pharaoh and Pharaoh would be
  • 01:10:43.230 --> 01:10:45.200
  • used to usher in God's will
  • 01:10:45.200 --> 01:10:48.110
  • because his people had enough
  • 01:10:48.110 --> 01:10:50.020
  • faith to be in it.
  • 01:10:50.020 --> 01:10:52.080
  • Do you get what I'm saying?
  • 01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:53.010
  • - Samuel: I love that.
  • 01:10:53.010 --> 01:10:53.190
  • - DeVon: And that is what God
  • 01:10:53.190 --> 01:10:54.110
  • is doing in Hollywood.
  • 01:10:54.110 --> 01:10:55.140
  • So getting "Miracles From
  • 01:10:55.140 --> 01:10:56.190
  • Heaven" made actually wasn't
  • 01:10:56.190 --> 01:10:57.180
  • even that hard.
  • 01:10:57.180 --> 01:10:58.280
  • It was the fastest movie I have
  • 01:10:58.280 --> 01:11:00.260
  • ever been a part of.
  • 01:11:00.260 --> 01:11:03.110
  • We bought the book as it was
  • 01:11:03.110 --> 01:11:05.110
  • being written.
  • 01:11:05.110 --> 01:11:06.200
  • We bought the book in August of
  • 01:11:06.200 --> 01:11:08.060
  • 2014, about 4 months after
  • 01:11:08.060 --> 01:11:09.230
  • "Heaven Is For Real" got
  • 01:11:09.230 --> 01:11:11.000
  • released.
  • 01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:11.220
  • The movie was finished 1 year
  • 01:11:11.220 --> 01:11:14.220
  • later.
  • 01:11:14.220 --> 01:11:15.250
  • Fastest.
  • 01:11:15.250 --> 01:11:17.020
  • We were writing the script as
  • 01:11:17.020 --> 01:11:18.040
  • the book was being written.
  • 01:11:18.040 --> 01:11:19.160
  • That's how God showed up on this
  • 01:11:19.160 --> 01:11:20.260
  • film.
  • 01:11:20.260 --> 01:11:21.210
  • - Samuel: So--but--bless God.
  • 01:11:21.210 --> 01:11:24.000
  • So DeVon, you know, with the
  • 01:11:24.090 --> 01:11:27.090
  • idea of the great canopy of
  • 01:11:27.090 --> 01:11:29.040
  • darkness coming out of major
  • 01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:30.090
  • culture and media, do you
  • 01:11:30.090 --> 01:11:32.150
  • foresee, and you're involved in
  • 01:11:32.150 --> 01:11:34.020
  • this, a greater dissemination of
  • 01:11:34.020 --> 01:11:36.010
  • faith-based, Christ-centered
  • 01:11:36.010 --> 01:11:37.220
  • films?
  • 01:11:37.220 --> 01:11:38.130
  • Of light in the midst of
  • 01:11:38.130 --> 01:11:39.130
  • darkness?
  • 01:11:39.130 --> 01:11:39.290
  • - DeVon: Absolutely, I see it.
  • 01:11:39.290 --> 01:11:40.210
  • I see it.
  • 01:11:40.210 --> 01:11:41.100
  • I mean, you don't even have to
  • 01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:42.060
  • take my word for it.
  • 01:11:42.060 --> 01:11:43.050
  • Just look at the headlines.
  • 01:11:43.050 --> 01:11:44.110
  • I mean, they're, you know, from
  • 01:11:44.110 --> 01:11:45.030
  • "Variety" to "The Hollywood
  • 01:11:45.030 --> 01:11:45.270
  • Reporter" to "The New York
  • 01:11:45.270 --> 01:11:47.070
  • Times" to "USA Today," everyone
  • 01:11:47.070 --> 01:11:48.200
  • is talking about how this
  • 01:11:48.200 --> 01:11:50.070
  • redemptive content, this
  • 01:11:50.070 --> 01:11:51.190
  • inspirational content, is
  • 01:11:51.190 --> 01:11:53.040
  • breaking down barriers that
  • 01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:54.150
  • others thought would never be
  • 01:11:54.150 --> 01:11:55.280
  • possible in Hollywood today.
  • 01:11:55.280 --> 01:11:57.100
  • - Samuel: Now, I'm gonna be
  • 01:11:57.100 --> 01:11:58.000
  • honest.
  • 01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:58.130
  • As the pastor of a church, New
  • 01:11:58.130 --> 01:11:59.040
  • Season Church in Sacramento,
  • 01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:00.040
  • "Miracles From Heaven," to me,
  • 01:12:00.040 --> 01:12:01.110
  • is an evangelistic tool.
  • 01:12:01.110 --> 01:12:02.240
  • It's a faith-affirming film for
  • 01:12:02.240 --> 01:12:04.230
  • our parishioners and worshipers.
  • 01:12:04.230 --> 01:12:06.030
  • But I wanna take someone who's
  • 01:12:06.030 --> 01:12:07.070
  • not a Christ-follower.
  • 01:12:07.070 --> 01:12:08.080
  • Hey, let me invite you.
  • 01:12:08.080 --> 01:12:09.110
  • Just watch this film.
  • 01:12:09.110 --> 01:12:10.110
  • That's not made up, by the way.
  • 01:12:10.110 --> 01:12:11.170
  • That's actually a true story,
  • 01:12:11.170 --> 01:12:13.170
  • based on a true story.
  • 01:12:13.170 --> 01:12:14.190
  • So I am grateful to God for you,
  • 01:12:14.190 --> 01:12:17.050
  • man.
  • 01:12:17.050 --> 01:12:18.150
  • For producing--for giving us a
  • 01:12:18.150 --> 01:12:19.270
  • tool by which we can evangelize
  • 01:12:19.270 --> 01:12:21.030
  • the Gospel of Jesus Christ
  • 01:12:21.030 --> 01:12:22.150
  • being preached via the conduit
  • 01:12:22.150 --> 01:12:24.260
  • of the big screen.
  • 01:12:24.260 --> 01:12:25.270
  • But DeVon Franklin is not just
  • 01:12:25.270 --> 01:12:27.100
  • films.
  • 01:12:27.100 --> 01:12:28.250
  • There is this little book that
  • 01:12:28.250 --> 01:12:29.250
  • just came out that happened to
  • 01:12:29.250 --> 01:12:30.220
  • just explode, I kid you not, on
  • 01:12:30.220 --> 01:12:33.080
  • "The New York Times" Bestseller
  • 01:12:33.080 --> 01:12:34.210
  • List.
  • 01:12:34.210 --> 01:12:35.110
  • It took off.
  • 01:12:35.110 --> 01:12:36.180
  • "The Wait."
  • 01:12:36.180 --> 01:12:37.160
  • Now, DeVon is married to a
  • 01:12:37.160 --> 01:12:39.230
  • wonderful, beautiful, woman of
  • 01:12:39.260 --> 01:12:42.260
  • God, Meagan Good.
  • 01:12:42.260 --> 01:12:44.030
  • You know her very well from a
  • 01:12:44.030 --> 01:12:45.040
  • number of movies.
  • 01:12:45.040 --> 01:12:46.030
  • Most recently in the Fox
  • 01:12:46.030 --> 01:12:47.130
  • Network, "The Minority Report."
  • 01:12:47.130 --> 01:12:49.060
  • A Christ-follower, indeed.
  • 01:12:49.060 --> 01:12:50.260
  • And you guys came out together
  • 01:12:50.260 --> 01:12:52.010
  • with this book called, "The
  • 01:12:52.010 --> 01:12:53.010
  • Wait."
  • 01:12:53.010 --> 01:12:53.280
  • Tell us a bit about the book.
  • 01:12:53.280 --> 01:12:55.040
  • - DeVon: Yes, the book is
  • 01:12:55.040 --> 01:12:56.000
  • called, "The Wait."
  • 01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:56.250
  • And it's all about finding the
  • 01:12:56.250 --> 01:12:58.030
  • life you love and the love of
  • 01:12:58.030 --> 01:12:59.270
  • your life.
  • 01:12:59.270 --> 01:13:00.180
  • And the idea, the central idea,
  • 01:13:00.180 --> 01:13:01.220
  • is that in order to find real
  • 01:13:01.220 --> 01:13:03.020
  • success and real love, wait to
  • 01:13:03.020 --> 01:13:05.200
  • have sex until marriage.
  • 01:13:05.200 --> 01:13:07.160
  • - Samuel: Stop.
  • 01:13:07.280 --> 01:13:10.280
  • You've gotta tweet someone
  • 01:13:10.280 --> 01:13:11.250
  • right now, text someone,
  • 01:13:11.250 --> 01:13:13.110
  • go on Instagram.
  • 01:13:13.110 --> 01:13:15.000
  • Go ahead and take a picture of
  • 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:16.020
  • this.
  • 01:13:16.020 --> 01:13:16.230
  • And tell 'em to tune in right
  • 01:13:16.230 --> 01:13:17.220
  • now.
  • 01:13:17.220 --> 01:13:18.160
  • This is the 20--DeVon, this is
  • 01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:20.050
  • the 21st century, man.
  • 01:13:20.050 --> 01:13:22.250
  • What is wrong with you?
  • 01:13:22.250 --> 01:13:24.280
  • That's archaic.
  • 01:13:24.280 --> 01:13:25.280
  • It's old school.
  • 01:13:25.280 --> 01:13:26.270
  • That's, like, old-school
  • 01:13:26.270 --> 01:13:28.070
  • mindset.
  • 01:13:28.070 --> 01:13:29.010
  • - DeVon: Let me tell you
  • 01:13:29.010 --> 01:13:29.200
  • something--
  • 01:13:29.200 --> 01:13:30.060
  • - Samuel: I mean, you still
  • 01:13:30.060 --> 01:13:30.260
  • believe in this thing that we
  • 01:13:30.260 --> 01:13:32.050
  • should actually believe what
  • 01:13:32.050 --> 01:13:33.140
  • the Bible says?
  • 01:13:33.140 --> 01:13:34.040
  • - DeVon: Man, I believe it and
  • 01:13:34.040 --> 01:13:35.170
  • I'm gonna tell you one thing.
  • 01:13:35.170 --> 01:13:36.140
  • All the success that you see
  • 01:13:36.140 --> 01:13:37.220
  • in my life is because, when I
  • 01:13:37.220 --> 01:13:39.260
  • was single, before Meagan and
  • 01:13:39.260 --> 01:13:41.150
  • I even married, I practiced
  • 01:13:41.150 --> 01:13:42.250
  • "The Wait" for over 10 years.
  • 01:13:43.200 --> 01:13:46.200
  • As a man of God,
  • 01:13:46.200 --> 01:13:47.180
  • because I believe it.
  • 01:13:47.180 --> 01:13:48.270
  • - Samuel: All right, let's talk
  • 01:13:48.270 --> 01:13:49.190
  • about this.
  • 01:13:49.190 --> 01:13:50.080
  • Let's talk about this.
  • 01:13:50.080 --> 01:13:51.050
  • I don't care if we run out our
  • 01:13:51.050 --> 01:13:51.270
  • time and just listen to a prayer
  • 01:13:51.270 --> 01:13:53.070
  • at the end, I wanna hear about
  • 01:13:53.070 --> 01:13:54.190
  • this.
  • 01:13:54.190 --> 01:13:55.090
  • You waited?
  • 01:13:55.090 --> 01:13:56.070
  • - DeVon: Yes.
  • 01:13:56.070 --> 01:13:56.260
  • - Samuel: Now, you're my buddy,
  • 01:13:56.260 --> 01:13:58.140
  • we're friends.
  • 01:13:58.140 --> 01:13:59.030
  • - DeVon: We're friends, yes.
  • 01:13:59.030 --> 01:13:59.240
  • - Samuel: Dude, you're in--I
  • 01:13:59.240 --> 01:14:00.170
  • think, dude, we're from
  • 01:14:00.170 --> 01:14:01.110
  • California.
  • 01:14:01.110 --> 01:14:02.010
  • For all of our people in Florida
  • 01:14:02.010 --> 01:14:03.140
  • or Pennsylvania, dude is just
  • 01:14:03.140 --> 01:14:05.000
  • Cal--you're in Hollywood, baby!
  • 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.120
  • - DeVon: Yup.
  • 01:14:07.120 --> 01:14:08.030
  • - Samuel: I mean, this is
  • 01:14:08.030 --> 01:14:09.090
  • temptation on steroids!
  • 01:14:09.090 --> 01:14:10.120
  • - DeVon: Mm-hm, mm-hm.
  • 01:14:10.120 --> 01:14:11.100
  • But see, here's the thing.
  • 01:14:11.100 --> 01:14:12.220
  • Here's the thing.
  • 01:14:12.220 --> 01:14:13.210
  • The enemy can only tempt you
  • 01:14:13.210 --> 01:14:15.060
  • with what you want.
  • 01:14:15.060 --> 01:14:17.090
  • - Samuel: Stop!
  • 01:14:17.090 --> 01:14:18.250
  • Say that one more time.
  • 01:14:18.250 --> 01:14:19.240
  • - DeVon: The enemy can only
  • 01:14:19.240 --> 01:14:20.240
  • tempt you with what you want.
  • 01:14:20.240 --> 01:14:23.190
  • So basically, whatever you're
  • 01:14:23.190 --> 01:14:24.230
  • hungry for, that's where the
  • 01:14:24.230 --> 01:14:26.280
  • temptation is.
  • 01:14:26.280 --> 01:14:28.110
  • My hunger for God was greater
  • 01:14:28.110 --> 01:14:30.290
  • than my hunger for Hollywood.
  • 01:14:31.100 --> 01:14:34.100
  • So there wasn't something there,
  • 01:14:35.010 --> 01:14:38.010
  • amen, that he could tempt me
  • 01:14:38.010 --> 01:14:40.040
  • with that would be so appealing
  • 01:14:40.090 --> 01:14:43.090
  • that I would be willing to
  • 01:14:43.090 --> 01:14:44.130
  • give up my commitment
  • 01:14:44.130 --> 01:14:45.260
  • to practicing the wait for.
  • 01:14:45.260 --> 01:14:47.220
  • Because the thing I kept
  • 01:14:47.220 --> 01:14:48.130
  • thinking about in my mind was,
  • 01:14:48.130 --> 01:14:49.260
  • you know, look, I didn't start
  • 01:14:49.260 --> 01:14:51.150
  • waiting--let me put it that way.
  • 01:14:51.150 --> 01:14:52.140
  • You know, I grew up in the
  • 01:14:52.140 --> 01:14:53.160
  • church and I told everybody
  • 01:14:53.160 --> 01:14:54.230
  • I was gonna wait and then
  • 01:14:54.230 --> 01:14:55.190
  • I didn't.
  • 01:14:55.190 --> 01:14:56.190
  • So, you know, there were a
  • 01:14:56.190 --> 01:14:57.220
  • number of years I wasn't
  • 01:14:57.220 --> 01:14:58.120
  • waiting.
  • 01:14:58.120 --> 01:14:59.020
  • When I graduated college, I
  • 01:14:59.020 --> 01:14:59.260
  • said, "You know what?
  • 01:14:59.260 --> 01:15:00.240
  • I can't be the person out there
  • 01:15:00.240 --> 01:15:01.270
  • telling people how to live a
  • 01:15:01.270 --> 01:15:03.000
  • godly life and not doing it
  • 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:04.000
  • myself."
  • 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:05.120
  • And so, as soon as I got out of
  • 01:15:05.120 --> 01:15:07.010
  • a relationship that I was in at
  • 01:15:07.010 --> 01:15:08.010
  • that time, I said, "Lord, if you
  • 01:15:08.010 --> 01:15:09.130
  • just give me the strength to get
  • 01:15:09.130 --> 01:15:10.100
  • out of the relationship, then
  • 01:15:10.100 --> 01:15:11.060
  • I'm gonna practice the wait."
  • 01:15:11.060 --> 01:15:13.010
  • And I started practicing
  • 01:15:13.010 --> 01:15:13.200
  • the wait.
  • 01:15:13.200 --> 01:15:14.100
  • And so as I started practicing
  • 01:15:14.100 --> 01:15:15.080
  • it, the thing that kept me in
  • 01:15:15.080 --> 01:15:16.230
  • it, because it's a spiritual
  • 01:15:16.230 --> 01:15:18.060
  • thing, as much as it is a
  • 01:15:18.060 --> 01:15:19.200
  • physical thing, but the thing
  • 01:15:19.200 --> 01:15:21.000
  • that kept me in it was this.
  • 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:22.030
  • I kept replaying the scene of
  • 01:15:22.030 --> 01:15:24.070
  • the end of my life.
  • 01:15:24.070 --> 01:15:25.210
  • Heaven forbid I got to heaven
  • 01:15:25.210 --> 01:15:27.230
  • and God said, "DeVon,
  • 01:15:27.230 --> 01:15:29.090
  • here's what I wanted to do
  • 01:15:29.090 --> 01:15:31.180
  • in your life.
  • 01:15:31.180 --> 01:15:32.260
  • Here was my best plan.
  • 01:15:32.260 --> 01:15:34.220
  • But because you had no obedience
  • 01:15:34.220 --> 01:15:36.290
  • in that area of your life,
  • 01:15:36.290 --> 01:15:38.240
  • I could only do this."
  • 01:15:38.240 --> 01:15:41.000
  • And the thing that kept racking
  • 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:42.270
  • my brain is could I live with
  • 01:15:42.270 --> 01:15:45.060
  • never operating in the fullness
  • 01:15:45.060 --> 01:15:46.220
  • of my purpose because I had no
  • 01:15:46.220 --> 01:15:48.160
  • discipline over sex in my life?
  • 01:15:48.160 --> 01:15:50.010
  • And because my answer for that
  • 01:15:50.010 --> 01:15:51.040
  • question was, "No," I'd rather
  • 01:15:51.040 --> 01:15:52.170
  • fight, I'd rather cry, I'd
  • 01:15:52.170 --> 01:15:55.010
  • rather put my sexuality on the
  • 01:15:55.010 --> 01:15:56.280
  • altar and say, "Lord, help me,
  • 01:15:56.280 --> 01:15:58.140
  • because I want to get everything
  • 01:15:58.140 --> 01:16:00.240
  • you have for me and I don't want
  • 01:16:00.240 --> 01:16:02.010
  • to leave anything that
  • 01:16:02.010 --> 01:16:03.060
  • you've planned for my life
  • 01:16:03.060 --> 01:16:04.070
  • on the table."
  • 01:16:04.070 --> 01:16:07.060
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:16:09.120 --> 01:16:12.120
  • - Samuel: We have millions of
  • 01:16:12.120 --> 01:16:13.030
  • people watching this program.
  • 01:16:13.030 --> 01:16:14.130
  • Some may argue DeVon Franklin is
  • 01:16:14.130 --> 01:16:15.250
  • the new avenger; you are
  • 01:16:15.250 --> 01:16:18.020
  • superhuman.
  • 01:16:18.020 --> 01:16:19.060
  • Tell me--and we know it's by the
  • 01:16:19.060 --> 01:16:21.010
  • grace of God.
  • 01:16:21.010 --> 01:16:21.280
  • Tell me about your daily--I
  • 01:16:21.280 --> 01:16:22.270
  • wanna hear this.
  • 01:16:22.270 --> 01:16:23.200
  • From a practical standpoint,
  • 01:16:23.200 --> 01:16:24.230
  • 10 years?
  • 01:16:24.230 --> 01:16:25.270
  • - DeVon: Yeah.
  • 01:16:25.270 --> 01:16:26.130
  • - Samuel: On a practical
  • 01:16:26.130 --> 01:16:27.190
  • standpoint, every single day,
  • 01:16:27.190 --> 01:16:29.000
  • what would you do to firewall?
  • 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.100
  • What would you do?
  • 01:16:31.100 --> 01:16:32.050
  • What was your practice, your
  • 01:16:32.050 --> 01:16:33.040
  • discipline, I wanna hear it.
  • 01:16:33.040 --> 01:16:34.060
  • - DeVon: Here's one of the most
  • 01:16:34.060 --> 01:16:35.040
  • important things to do,
  • 01:16:35.040 --> 01:16:37.090
  • specifically in practicing the
  • 01:16:37.090 --> 01:16:38.140
  • wait, especially as a man.
  • 01:16:38.140 --> 01:16:40.120
  • Don't be in denial about those
  • 01:16:41.050 --> 01:16:44.050
  • type of desires that you have.
  • 01:16:44.050 --> 01:16:46.270
  • Because sometimes, we're taught
  • 01:16:46.270 --> 01:16:48.200
  • in the church just, you know,
  • 01:16:48.200 --> 01:16:49.230
  • "You don't have those desires.
  • 01:16:49.230 --> 01:16:51.120
  • As a man, you don't have sexual
  • 01:16:51.120 --> 01:16:52.200
  • desire.
  • 01:16:52.200 --> 01:16:53.120
  • Just ignore it."
  • 01:16:53.120 --> 01:16:54.130
  • Anything you're in denial about,
  • 01:16:54.130 --> 01:16:56.180
  • you empower to destroy you.
  • 01:16:56.180 --> 01:16:58.060
  • - Samuel: Say that one more
  • 01:16:58.060 --> 01:16:58.260
  • time.
  • 01:16:58.260 --> 01:16:59.080
  • - DeVon: Anything you're in
  • 01:16:59.080 --> 01:16:59.290
  • denial about, you empower to
  • 01:16:59.290 --> 01:17:01.050
  • destroy you.
  • 01:17:01.050 --> 01:17:02.030
  • So one of the ways that I was
  • 01:17:02.030 --> 01:17:03.200
  • able to endure it and handle it
  • 01:17:03.200 --> 01:17:05.130
  • was to acknowledge, "Yes,
  • 01:17:05.130 --> 01:17:07.100
  • I am a man.
  • 01:17:07.100 --> 01:17:08.190
  • Yes, I am feeling these desires.
  • 01:17:08.210 --> 01:17:11.210
  • Okay, Lord, they're here.
  • 01:17:11.210 --> 01:17:13.140
  • They're right there in
  • 01:17:13.140 --> 01:17:15.060
  • the midst.
  • 01:17:15.060 --> 01:17:15.290
  • Lord, give me the strength.
  • 01:17:15.290 --> 01:17:18.020
  • Help me manage this.
  • 01:17:18.020 --> 01:17:20.050
  • I feel it.
  • 01:17:20.050 --> 01:17:21.160
  • I feel it, Lord."
  • 01:17:21.160 --> 01:17:23.200
  • You know, and I could be on
  • 01:17:23.200 --> 01:17:24.230
  • a date.
  • 01:17:24.230 --> 01:17:25.110
  • Lord, I feel it.
  • 01:17:25.110 --> 01:17:26.210
  • Give me the strength 'cause some
  • 01:17:26.210 --> 01:17:27.290
  • dates I had to say, "You know
  • 01:17:27.290 --> 01:17:29.000
  • what?
  • 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:29.180
  • I'm just gonna hug you right
  • 01:17:29.180 --> 01:17:30.080
  • here in the car.
  • 01:17:30.080 --> 01:17:31.040
  • You've gotta go in 'cause if I
  • 01:17:31.040 --> 01:17:32.070
  • walk you to the door, I don't
  • 01:17:32.070 --> 01:17:33.180
  • know if I have enough strength
  • 01:17:33.180 --> 01:17:35.050
  • at the doorstep."
  • 01:17:35.050 --> 01:17:37.010
  • - Samuel: You're keeping it
  • 01:17:37.010 --> 01:17:37.210
  • real.
  • 01:17:37.210 --> 01:17:38.060
  • - DeVon: But I got some
  • 01:17:38.060 --> 01:17:38.240
  • strength right here in the
  • 01:17:38.240 --> 01:17:39.130
  • driver's seat.
  • 01:17:39.130 --> 01:17:40.010
  • You get what I'm saying?
  • 01:17:40.010 --> 01:17:40.260
  • So--
  • 01:17:40.260 --> 01:17:41.220
  • - Samuel: Behind the seatbelt.
  • 01:17:41.220 --> 01:17:42.190
  • - DeVon: Here it is, behind the
  • 01:17:42.190 --> 01:17:43.110
  • seatbelt.
  • 01:17:43.110 --> 01:17:44.030
  • I'm--not tonight.
  • 01:17:44.030 --> 01:17:45.060
  • Not tonight.
  • 01:17:45.060 --> 01:17:46.040
  • I'm staying right here.
  • 01:17:46.040 --> 01:17:47.080
  • You know, and sometimes it was,
  • 01:17:47.080 --> 01:17:49.090
  • like, "Look, you know what?
  • 01:17:49.090 --> 01:17:50.110
  • I can't--we can't hang tonight.
  • 01:17:50.110 --> 01:17:51.260
  • We can't hang tonight.
  • 01:17:51.260 --> 01:17:53.060
  • I'll talk to you on the phone."
  • 01:17:53.060 --> 01:17:54.070
  • - Samuel: The power to say,
  • 01:17:54.070 --> 01:17:55.000
  • "No."
  • 01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:55.170
  • - DeVon: The power to say,
  • 01:17:55.170 --> 01:17:56.270
  • "No," but it really came--
  • 01:17:56.270 --> 01:17:57.290
  • - Samuel: No is anointed.
  • 01:17:57.290 --> 01:17:58.210
  • - DeVon: No is anointed.
  • 01:17:58.210 --> 01:17:59.230
  • No is anointed.
  • 01:17:59.230 --> 01:18:01.250
  • - Samuel: No is anointed.
  • 01:18:01.250 --> 01:18:03.000
  • - DeVon: No is anointed.
  • 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:04.050
  • - Samuel: Indeed.
  • 01:18:04.050 --> 01:18:05.010
  • - DeVon: But it really came
  • 01:18:05.010 --> 01:18:06.030
  • from the power to say, "No,"
  • 01:18:06.030 --> 01:18:07.260
  • because of the yes I was
  • 01:18:07.260 --> 01:18:09.230
  • choosing.
  • 01:18:09.230 --> 01:18:10.220
  • So with every no, was embedded
  • 01:18:10.220 --> 01:18:13.220
  • in it, a yes.
  • 01:18:13.220 --> 01:18:15.110
  • Yes, I want God's plan for my
  • 01:18:15.110 --> 01:18:16.250
  • life.
  • 01:18:16.250 --> 01:18:17.160
  • Yes, I want victory over this
  • 01:18:17.160 --> 01:18:19.030
  • issue that can destroy me.
  • 01:18:19.030 --> 01:18:20.200
  • Yes, I wanna be a different man
  • 01:18:20.200 --> 01:18:22.250
  • than my father was.
  • 01:18:22.250 --> 01:18:24.030
  • Yes, I wanna break the
  • 01:18:24.030 --> 01:18:25.040
  • generational curse on my life
  • 01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:26.270
  • because, as a man, c'mon, man,
  • 01:18:26.270 --> 01:18:29.010
  • you know how it is.
  • 01:18:29.010 --> 01:18:30.170
  • there was a yes.
  • 01:18:34.220 --> 01:18:35.190
  • And, look, again, to your point
  • 01:18:35.190 --> 01:18:36.240
  • about, you know, being, you
  • 01:18:36.240 --> 01:18:37.240
  • know, human, man, look nothing
  • 01:18:37.240 --> 01:18:38.250
  • easy.
  • 01:18:38.250 --> 01:18:39.270
  • Day by day.
  • 01:18:39.270 --> 01:18:40.180
  • Day by day.
  • 01:18:40.180 --> 01:18:41.250
  • That's it.
  • 01:18:41.250 --> 01:18:42.180
  • That's the only way it could
  • 01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:43.090
  • happen, day by day.
  • 01:18:43.090 --> 01:18:44.200
  • Every day, waking up, saying,
  • 01:18:44.200 --> 01:18:45.230
  • "Okay, Lord.
  • 01:18:45.230 --> 01:18:46.150
  • Gimme the strength today, show
  • 01:18:46.150 --> 01:18:47.160
  • me what to do today."
  • 01:18:47.160 --> 01:18:48.120
  • And that was key to being able
  • 01:18:48.120 --> 01:18:51.080
  • to keep the commitment.
  • 01:18:51.080 --> 01:18:52.090
  • - Samuel: Now, and I wanna hear
  • 01:18:52.090 --> 01:18:53.010
  • this and then together we're
  • 01:18:53.010 --> 01:18:54.020
  • gonna minister and just pray as
  • 01:18:54.020 --> 01:18:54.270
  • This is so critical and it
  • 01:18:57.000 --> 01:18:57.280
  • behooves you right now to call
  • 01:18:57.280 --> 01:18:58.270
  • someone, text them, or tell 'em
  • 01:18:58.270 --> 01:18:59.290
  • to tune in.
  • 01:18:59.290 --> 01:19:00.290
  • These might be the most
  • 01:19:00.290 --> 01:19:01.270
  • important minutes of your life
  • 01:19:01.270 --> 01:19:03.140
  • thus far, so tune in.
  • 01:19:03.140 --> 01:19:04.240
  • Please, call someone that needs
  • 01:19:04.240 --> 01:19:06.010
  • to hear this.
  • 01:19:06.010 --> 01:19:06.230
  • Is this old-school, archaic,
  • 01:19:06.230 --> 01:19:08.160
  • theological motifs of holiness,
  • 01:19:08.160 --> 01:19:09.220
  • of legalism?
  • 01:19:09.220 --> 01:19:10.270
  • Is this what we're saying, that
  • 01:19:10.270 --> 01:19:12.060
  • it's a--tell me about it.
  • 01:19:12.060 --> 01:19:13.120
  • 'Cause people right now say,
  • 01:19:13.120 --> 01:19:14.090
  • "Look, you know, it doesn't
  • 01:19:14.090 --> 01:19:15.150
  • really matter how you live if--"
  • 01:19:15.150 --> 01:19:16.230
  • you know, under the collective
  • 01:19:16.230 --> 01:19:18.070
  • great canopy of the grace of
  • 01:19:18.070 --> 01:19:19.270
  • God, that you and I believe in
  • 01:19:19.270 --> 01:19:20.280
  • the grace of Christ.
  • 01:19:20.280 --> 01:19:21.250
  • We know it's not what we do for
  • 01:19:21.250 --> 01:19:22.180
  • God but what Jesus already did
  • 01:19:22.180 --> 01:19:23.250
  • for us.
  • 01:19:23.250 --> 01:19:24.160
  • - DeVon: That's right.
  • 01:19:24.160 --> 01:19:25.040
  • - Samuel: It's by grace that
  • 01:19:25.040 --> 01:19:25.290
  • we're saved, right?
  • 01:19:25.290 --> 01:19:26.230
  • But you're telling me there are
  • 01:19:26.230 --> 01:19:28.070
  • still benefits to living
  • 01:19:28.070 --> 01:19:29.080
  • righteously.
  • 01:19:29.080 --> 01:19:30.010
  • What are the benefits, I mean,
  • 01:19:30.010 --> 01:19:31.020
  • in obedience?
  • 01:19:31.020 --> 01:19:31.260
  • - DeVon: Well, in obedience,
  • 01:19:31.260 --> 01:19:33.040
  • first of all, peace.
  • 01:19:33.040 --> 01:19:34.120
  • How about that?
  • 01:19:34.120 --> 01:19:35.260
  • How about being able to wake up
  • 01:19:35.260 --> 01:19:37.230
  • feeling good about who you are?
  • 01:19:37.230 --> 01:19:39.210
  • And not going to bed in
  • 01:19:39.210 --> 01:19:40.270
  • the guilt of what you just did?
  • 01:19:41.050 --> 01:19:44.050
  • How about having health?
  • 01:19:44.050 --> 01:19:46.160
  • I think this area of dealing
  • 01:19:46.160 --> 01:19:47.290
  • with sex and really dealing with
  • 01:19:47.290 --> 01:19:50.120
  • it in a practical way, it's one
  • 01:19:50.120 --> 01:19:51.240
  • of the quiet areas where the
  • 01:19:51.240 --> 01:19:54.010
  • majority of the body of Christ
  • 01:19:54.010 --> 01:19:55.190
  • not only is suffering but
  • 01:19:55.190 --> 01:19:56.270
  • they're dying.
  • 01:19:56.270 --> 01:19:58.020
  • Because no one says,
  • 01:19:58.020 --> 01:19:59.210
  • "How do you do it?"
  • 01:19:59.210 --> 01:20:00.180
  • Everybody just says,
  • 01:20:00.180 --> 01:20:01.110
  • "Don't do it."
  • 01:20:01.110 --> 01:20:02.070
  • But no one says,
  • 01:20:02.070 --> 01:20:02.260
  • "Well, how do you do it?"
  • 01:20:02.260 --> 01:20:03.210
  • And, "How do you make it
  • 01:20:03.210 --> 01:20:04.110
  • through?"
  • 01:20:04.110 --> 01:20:04.280
  • There's no how to.
  • 01:20:04.280 --> 01:20:05.170
  • And one of the keys in
  • 01:20:05.170 --> 01:20:07.000
  • the how to is health.
  • 01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:08.230
  • You do have a better health and
  • 01:20:08.230 --> 01:20:10.050
  • wellbeing when you're not giving
  • 01:20:10.050 --> 01:20:11.170
  • a part of your soul to somebody
  • 01:20:11.170 --> 01:20:13.050
  • else.
  • 01:20:13.050 --> 01:20:13.260
  • You can think clearer.
  • 01:20:13.260 --> 01:20:15.040
  • You have more energy and time to
  • 01:20:15.040 --> 01:20:16.220
  • do the things that God really
  • 01:20:16.220 --> 01:20:18.130
  • put you here to do.
  • 01:20:18.130 --> 01:20:19.150
  • And here's the thing.
  • 01:20:19.150 --> 01:20:20.100
  • As a man, you have more money
  • 01:20:20.100 --> 01:20:21.270
  • because, as a man, if you're not
  • 01:20:21.270 --> 01:20:22.250
  • out there chasing it, c'mon,
  • 01:20:22.250 --> 01:20:24.250
  • man, we would have a real
  • 01:20:24.250 --> 01:20:25.220
  • problem.
  • 01:20:25.220 --> 01:20:26.130
  • Face it.
  • 01:20:26.130 --> 01:20:27.020
  • We have a real problem.
  • 01:20:27.020 --> 01:20:27.220
  • Face it--because that's
  • 01:20:27.220 --> 01:20:29.140
  • what--c'mon, that's what men do.
  • 01:20:29.140 --> 01:20:30.210
  • Men make the money to spend
  • 01:20:30.210 --> 01:20:31.240
  • the money so they can get the
  • 01:20:31.240 --> 01:20:33.070
  • bird--get the woman and get her
  • 01:20:33.070 --> 01:20:34.050
  • into bed and do--even if you're
  • 01:20:34.050 --> 01:20:35.210
  • a Christian or not, that still
  • 01:20:35.210 --> 01:20:37.010
  • is something that many men deal
  • 01:20:37.010 --> 01:20:38.100
  • with.
  • 01:20:38.100 --> 01:20:39.130
  • And so when you take that off
  • 01:20:39.130 --> 01:20:40.260
  • the table, you have more
  • 01:20:40.260 --> 01:20:42.050
  • resources, you have more time,
  • 01:20:42.050 --> 01:20:43.220
  • you have more energy,
  • 01:20:43.220 --> 01:20:44.290
  • you have more focus.
  • 01:20:44.290 --> 01:20:46.040
  • I'm 37 years old.
  • 01:20:46.040 --> 01:20:47.150
  • I have my own production
  • 01:20:47.150 --> 01:20:48.190
  • company.
  • 01:20:48.190 --> 01:20:49.090
  • I have a deal with Sony Pictures
  • 01:20:49.090 --> 01:20:50.100
  • Entertainment.
  • 01:20:50.100 --> 01:20:51.080
  • I am the youngest African
  • 01:20:51.080 --> 01:20:52.030
  • American in Hollywood with a
  • 01:20:52.030 --> 01:20:54.130
  • deal.
  • 01:20:54.130 --> 01:20:55.030
  • I'm the only--I'm probably the
  • 01:20:55.080 --> 01:20:58.080
  • youngest Christian in
  • 01:20:58.080 --> 01:20:59.010
  • Hollywood with a deal.
  • 01:20:59.010 --> 01:21:00.230
  • And the only reason why I have
  • 01:21:00.230 --> 01:21:02.100
  • these things is because I was
  • 01:21:02.100 --> 01:21:04.240
  • practicing the wait.
  • 01:21:04.240 --> 01:21:06.060
  • Because I got disciplined early
  • 01:21:06.060 --> 01:21:07.280
  • in my life and that discipline
  • 01:21:07.280 --> 01:21:09.110
  • has been the foundation which
  • 01:21:09.110 --> 01:21:10.130
  • all my success rests on and so
  • 01:21:10.130 --> 01:21:11.220
  • that's why I impart that to
  • 01:21:11.220 --> 01:21:13.150
  • anybody listening because it has
  • 01:21:13.150 --> 01:21:15.080
  • so many practical benefits that
  • 01:21:15.080 --> 01:21:16.180
  • go just beyond what sometimes
  • 01:21:16.180 --> 01:21:18.010
  • you think it may.
  • 01:21:18.010 --> 01:21:19.200
  • - Samuel: We're about to pivot
  • 01:21:19.200 --> 01:21:20.200
  • and pray right now for a second.
  • 01:21:20.200 --> 01:21:21.240
  • Here's the way that I phrase
  • 01:21:21.240 --> 01:21:22.160
  • it to our parishioners,
  • 01:21:22.160 --> 01:21:23.190
  • our worshipers.
  • 01:21:23.190 --> 01:21:25.120
  • Grace gives you access to God.
  • 01:21:25.120 --> 01:21:27.260
  • But biblical holiness,
  • 01:21:27.260 --> 01:21:29.250
  • not legalism, holiness,
  • 01:21:29.250 --> 01:21:31.120
  • righteousness, what you call
  • 01:21:31.120 --> 01:21:32.130
  • obedience, gives you access and
  • 01:21:32.130 --> 01:21:34.190
  • authority to speak on behalf
  • 01:21:34.190 --> 01:21:36.010
  • of God.
  • 01:21:36.010 --> 01:21:37.080
  • - DeVon: Amen, I love that.
  • 01:21:37.080 --> 01:21:38.090
  • - Samuel: It's different.
  • 01:21:38.090 --> 01:21:39.070
  • Because the benefits of living
  • 01:21:39.070 --> 01:21:40.270
  • right, of living in
  • 01:21:40.270 --> 01:21:42.180
  • righteousness, it's not
  • 01:21:42.180 --> 01:21:43.190
  • legalism, it's not about--
  • 01:21:43.190 --> 01:21:45.230
  • no, it's just a beauty.
  • 01:21:45.230 --> 01:21:46.270
  • And I love what you said.
  • 01:21:46.270 --> 01:21:48.110
  • There are things that God has
  • 01:21:48.110 --> 01:21:49.200
  • for you that you can limit for
  • 01:21:49.200 --> 01:21:52.040
  • yourself by not lining up with
  • 01:21:52.040 --> 01:21:53.270
  • what God's Scripture lays out
  • 01:21:53.270 --> 01:21:55.100
  • for us.
  • 01:21:55.100 --> 01:21:56.090
  • That's powerful indeed.
  • 01:21:56.090 --> 01:21:57.220
  • Let's pray together.
  • 01:21:57.220 --> 01:21:59.010
  • I wanna lay this out for you.
  • 01:21:59.010 --> 01:22:00.070
  • DeVon is gonna pray.
  • 01:22:00.070 --> 01:22:01.090
  • We're gonna wrap up the program
  • 01:22:01.090 --> 01:22:02.040
  • in the following manner but
  • 01:22:02.040 --> 01:22:03.160
  • I wanna lay this out for you.
  • 01:22:03.160 --> 01:22:04.120
  • This is all about turning on
  • 01:22:04.120 --> 01:22:05.060
  • the light.
  • 01:22:05.060 --> 01:22:05.270
  • Whatever darkness, whatever
  • 01:22:05.270 --> 01:22:07.270
  • canopy of darkness is
  • 01:22:07.270 --> 01:22:09.190
  • surrounding your life, your
  • 01:22:09.190 --> 01:22:10.280
  • circumstances, right now, it
  • 01:22:10.280 --> 01:22:12.070
  • it could be the temptations
  • 01:22:14.150 --> 01:22:16.110
  • that you're always falling into.
  • 01:22:16.110 --> 01:22:18.260
  • There's a power greater than
  • 01:22:18.260 --> 01:22:19.220
  • you.
  • 01:22:19.220 --> 01:22:20.210
  • It's the power of Christ.
  • 01:22:20.210 --> 01:22:22.090
  • So right now, as we gather,
  • 01:22:22.090 --> 01:22:24.220
  • let me lay this out for you.
  • 01:22:24.220 --> 01:22:25.210
  • If you wanna write them now or
  • 01:22:25.210 --> 01:22:26.180
  • internalize them in your spirit
  • 01:22:26.180 --> 01:22:27.190
  • man, here it is.
  • 01:22:27.190 --> 01:22:28.220
  • Let me lay this out for you.
  • 01:22:28.220 --> 01:22:29.160
  • You are what you tolerate.
  • 01:22:32.280 --> 01:22:35.150
  • Two, today's complacency
  • 01:22:35.150 --> 01:22:37.220
  • is tomorrow's captivity.
  • 01:22:37.220 --> 01:22:40.010
  • You can't be complacent about
  • 01:22:40.010 --> 01:22:41.270
  • your circumstance.
  • 01:22:41.270 --> 01:22:43.060
  • You have to decide right now you
  • 01:22:43.060 --> 01:22:44.160
  • won't tolerate this anymore.
  • 01:22:44.160 --> 01:22:46.110
  • Number three, there is no such
  • 01:22:46.110 --> 01:22:48.190
  • thing as comfortable
  • 01:22:48.190 --> 01:22:49.220
  • Christianity.
  • 01:22:49.220 --> 01:22:51.060
  • Our faith is not about being
  • 01:22:51.060 --> 01:22:52.120
  • comfortable.
  • 01:22:52.120 --> 01:22:53.130
  • It's about being convicted and
  • 01:22:53.130 --> 01:22:54.230
  • prophetic and transformative.
  • 01:22:54.230 --> 01:22:57.140
  • Number four, truth and
  • 01:22:57.140 --> 01:22:59.130
  • righteousness must never be
  • 01:22:59.130 --> 01:23:01.250
  • sacrificed on the altar of
  • 01:23:01.250 --> 01:23:03.120
  • political, cultural,
  • 01:23:03.120 --> 01:23:04.230
  • or sexual expediency.
  • 01:23:04.230 --> 01:23:06.210
  • Don't sacrifice your destiny and
  • 01:23:06.210 --> 01:23:08.130
  • your calling for a one-night
  • 01:23:08.130 --> 01:23:09.210
  • stand, for a moment--for a
  • 01:23:09.210 --> 01:23:11.240
  • moment that'll go away in
  • 01:23:11.240 --> 01:23:13.010
  • minutes.
  • 01:23:13.010 --> 01:23:14.100
  • Don't do it.
  • 01:23:14.100 --> 01:23:15.220
  • And number five, while many
  • 01:23:15.220 --> 01:23:17.170
  • Christians are asking for Jesus
  • 01:23:17.170 --> 01:23:19.070
  • to come down, Jesus is waiting
  • 01:23:19.070 --> 01:23:21.070
  • for his church to stand up,
  • 01:23:21.070 --> 01:23:23.150
  • which means, "Be light."
  • 01:23:23.210 --> 01:23:26.210
  • DeVon, right now,
  • 01:23:28.230 --> 01:23:30.140
  • pray in the name of Jesus.
  • 01:23:30.140 --> 01:23:31.200
  • Anyone who's fighting and
  • 01:23:31.200 --> 01:23:32.120
  • struggling, let's pray them
  • 01:23:32.120 --> 01:23:33.160
  • through.
  • 01:23:33.160 --> 01:23:34.040
  • Turn on the light in Jesus'
  • 01:23:34.040 --> 01:23:34.240
  • name.
  • 01:23:34.240 --> 01:23:35.120
  • - DeVon: Amen, right now, you
  • 01:23:35.120 --> 01:23:36.170
  • think that you just randomly
  • 01:23:36.170 --> 01:23:37.260
  • turned on this program or you've
  • 01:23:37.260 --> 01:23:39.050
  • been randomly watching.
  • 01:23:39.050 --> 01:23:40.160
  • But I need you to know that
  • 01:23:40.160 --> 01:23:41.130
  • you're here and you're watching
  • 01:23:41.130 --> 01:23:42.230
  • because it's exactly what God
  • 01:23:42.230 --> 01:23:44.030
  • needs for you.
  • 01:23:44.030 --> 01:23:45.000
  • Now, here's the thing.
  • 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.040
  • You might be struggling in this
  • 01:23:46.040 --> 01:23:47.050
  • area of, you know, I keep trying
  • 01:23:47.050 --> 01:23:48.270
  • not to have sex and I keep
  • 01:23:48.270 --> 01:23:50.130
  • trying to do it God's way and I
  • 01:23:50.130 --> 01:23:52.010
  • keep feeling bad and guilty
  • 01:23:52.010 --> 01:23:53.090
  • 'cause I can't stop.
  • 01:23:53.090 --> 01:23:54.170
  • But here's the reason
  • 01:23:54.170 --> 01:23:55.070
  • why you're watching.
  • 01:23:55.070 --> 01:23:56.090
  • It's because in the mighty name
  • 01:23:56.090 --> 01:23:57.210
  • of Jesus you have the power to
  • 01:23:57.210 --> 01:24:00.110
  • access every good thing that
  • 01:24:00.110 --> 01:24:02.190
  • he has for your life.
  • 01:24:02.190 --> 01:24:03.260
  • in the guilt of what just
  • 01:24:06.180 --> 01:24:08.000
  • happened but you stand up, right
  • 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.150
  • now, in the power of what is
  • 01:24:09.150 --> 01:24:11.040
  • going to happen.
  • 01:24:11.040 --> 01:24:12.140
  • You will get victory.
  • 01:24:12.140 --> 01:24:14.000
  • You will walk in the fullness of
  • 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:15.250
  • your calling.
  • 01:24:15.250 --> 01:24:16.280
  • There is no one-night stand that
  • 01:24:16.280 --> 01:24:18.260
  • is powerful enough to deter you
  • 01:24:18.260 --> 01:24:20.290
  • from what God wants you to be.
  • 01:24:20.290 --> 01:24:22.180
  • Here's what I want you to do.
  • 01:24:22.180 --> 01:24:23.220
  • The next time you are literally
  • 01:24:23.220 --> 01:24:25.000
  • about to do it and you know the
  • 01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:26.180
  • "it" I'm talking about, I want
  • 01:24:26.180 --> 01:24:28.030
  • you to say, "Lord, I want the
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  • one-night stand to be with you,
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  • not with the person I'm getting
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  • ready to do something with."
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  • And I promise you, when you get
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  • that bold, you're gonna see God
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  • show up because here is the
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  • truth, the enemy wants to divert
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  • and distract and detour you
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  • from your destiny but there is
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  • no woman, there is no man, that
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  • can do that unless you give them
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  • the power.
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  • So my prayer right now is that
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  • you would not only wait to do
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  • it, but you would wait on your
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  • God because they that wait on
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  • the Lord--oh, you know the rest,
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  • ha, ha.
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  • "They shall mount up on wings
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  • as eagles.
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  • They shall run and not
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  • get weary.
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  • They shall walk and not faint."
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  • I'm praying for your strength in
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  • the mighty name of Jesus, amen.
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  • - Samuel: In Jesus' name we
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  • come in agreement, indeed.
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  • In the name of Jesus.
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  • Pick up "The Wait."
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  • Watch "Miracles From Heaven."
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  • The best days are ahead of you.
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  • "Your eye has yet to see,
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  • your ear has yet to hear.
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  • Your mind has yet to imagine,"
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  • 1 Corinthians 2:9,
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  • "the wonderful things that
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  • God has in store for you."
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  • So shake off the dust,
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  • rebuke hell, rebuke Satan,
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  • get up, raise your volume,
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  • and give God praise.
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  • All that hath breath,
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