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February 16, 2017
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  • - FROM WASHINGTON DC, LEAD PASTOR AND
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR MARK BATTERSON NEXT ON PRAISE.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: THE PRAISE PROGRAM COMES TO
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  • YOU TODAY FROM THE NATION'S CAPITOL.
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  • WITH US MARK BATTERSON, YOU'RE THE SENIOR PASTOR
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  • OF NCC, AND YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT DREAMS, VISIONS
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  • AND CHASING LIONS.
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  • WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT?
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  • - MARK BATTERSON: WELL, I THINK IF YOUR DREAM
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  • DOESN'T SCARE YOU, IT'S TOO SMALL.
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  • YOU KNOW, I FOUND, MATT, THE MORE YOU PRAY THE
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  • MORE YOU DREAM.
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  • AND THEN THE MORE YOU DREAM, THE MORE YOU HAVE
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  • TO PRAY, AND SO I THINK DREAMS ARE THE WAY THAT
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  • GOD SPEAKS TO US AND THE INTERESTING THING IS IT'S
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  • NOT ABOUT ACCOMPLISHING JUST THE DREAM.
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  • IT'S ABOUT WHO YOU BECOME IN THE PROCESS, SO I
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  • THINK BIG DREAMS MAKE BIG PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM
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  • DEPENDENT UPON GOD.
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  • - DOES EVERYONE HAVE A DREAM?
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  • - WELL, I THINK EVERYBODY LISTENING RIGHT
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  • NOW WANTS A DREAM.
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  • I BELIEVE THAT.
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  • I THINK SOMETIMES WE SERVE OTHER PEOPLE'S
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  • DREAMS FOR A SEASON, AND THEN GOD BLESSES THAT,
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  • BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT GOD WANTS TO GIVE EACH AND
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  • EVERY ONE OF US A DREAM.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • HOW DOES DREAMS RELATE TO BENAIAH CHASING LIONS IN
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  • A PIT ON A SNOWY DAY?
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  • SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONNECTING THE DOTS NOW.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: CIRCLE MAKER.
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  • - CIRCLE MAKER, ALL OF THAT.
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  • SO LET'S JUST KIND OF START WITH FROM THE BEGINNING.
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  • - YES.
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  • - YOU BELIEVE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT DREAMS AND VISIONS.
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  • OUR AUDIENCE AROUND THE WORLD WHEREVER YOU'RE
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  • WATCHING WANT TO HAVE DREAMS AND VISION, WANT
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  • TO FULFILL SOMETHING.
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  • LET'S JUST UNPACK THIS FOR THE NEXT HALF HOUR.
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  • JUST START FROM GROUND ZERO AND LET'S GET RIGHT
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  • INTO THE SUBJECT MATTER.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • THERE IS A LITTLE STORY BURIED IN THE
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  • OLD TESTAMENT, 2 SAMUEL 23:20, ABOUT A GUY NAMED
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  • BENAIAH WHO CHASES A LION INTO A PIT ON A SNOWY DAY
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  • AND KILLS IT.
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  • WHEN I FIRST HEARD SOMEONE TALK ABOUT THAT,
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  • I HAD TO GO TO THE BIBLE JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK AND
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  • MAKE SURE IT WAS IN THERE.
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  • THAT'S THE COOLEST STORY I'VE EVER HEARD.
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  • WHO CHASES A LION INTO A PIT AND KILLS IT?
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  • - ON A SNOWY DAY.
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  • - ON A SNOWY DAY.
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  • AND I'LL TELL YOU WHO.
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  • IT'S A GUY WHO'S GOING TO BECOME KING DAVID'S
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  • BODYGUARD AND EVENTUALLY COMMANDER AND CHIEF OF
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  • ISRAEL'S ARMY UNDER KING SOLOMON, BUT I THINK IT
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  • STARTS WITH THAT MOMENT.
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  • ARE YOU GOING TO RUN AWAY FROM WHAT YOU'RE AFRAID
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  • OF OR ARE YOU GOING TO RUN TO THE ROAR.
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  • AND SO IT'S THIS BEAUTIFUL STORY, AND I
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  • BELIEVE THAT EVERY STORY IN THE BIBLE IS
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  • A MICROCOSM.
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  • I THINK EACH ONE OF US HAS A 500 POUND
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  • LION THAT WE NEED TO CHASE.
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  • THERE IS SOME CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE FACING RIGHT NOW.
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  • THERE'S SOME DREAM THAT'S BIGGER THAN WE ARE, AND
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  • THAT'S WHERE GOD COMES INTO THE EQUATION AND
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  • WHERE FAITH BEGINS TO BE ACTIVATED, AND SO I THINK
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  • THAT STORY IS A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE FOR US TO FOLLOW,
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  • AND SO I HAVE A LITTLE LIFE MOTTO, CHASE THE LION.
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  • - DO YOU HAVE A DREAM GOD HAS PUT IN YOUR HEART?
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  • ARE YOU READY TO SEE THAT DREAM BECOME A REALITY?
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  • THIS MONTH TBN WANTS TO BUILD YOUR FAITH WITH A
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  • NEW RESOURCE FROM BISHOP
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  • T.D. JAKES AND PASTOR MARK BATTERSON ENTITLED TURN
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  • YOUR DREAM INTO YOUR DESTINY.
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  • THESE TWO GIFTED PASTORS WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO
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  • BOLDLY FIGHT FOR YOUR GOD GIVEN DREAM AND
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  • VICTORIOUSLY STEP INTO YOUR DESTINY.
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  • - TD JAKES: EVERY MORNING YOU WAKE UP YOU
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  • HAVE A DESTINY TO FULFILL, AND THE REASON I
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  • KNOW YOU HAVE A DESTINY TO FULFILL IS YOU ARE NOT DEAD.
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  • WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF DESTINY, YOU WILL DIE.
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  • - MARK BATTERSON: THINK AT SOME POINT YOU GOT TO TAKE THAT
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  • STEP OF FAITH AND SAY, EVEN IF I FAIL, THIS IS A DREAM
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  • WORTH GOING AFTER.
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  • - THROUGH THIS NEW, MULTI DISC SERIES THAT IS
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  • BOTH AUDIO CD AND DVD, YOU WILL STEP INTO YOUR DESTINY.
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  • AND IT'S OUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT
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  • TO TBN THIS MONTH, AND IN APPRECIATION FOR YOUR
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  • GIFT OF $60 OR MORE,
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  • WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE THE BEST-SELLING BOOKS,
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  • DESTINY BY TD JAKES AND CHASE THE LION
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  • BY MARK BATTERSON.
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  • THESE GREAT BOOKS REVEAL HOW LIFE'S GREATEST
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  • FULFILLMENT COMES BY LIVING YOUR DIVINE
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  • PURPOSE AND HOW YOU CAN FEARLESSLY CHASE AFTER
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  • YOUR GOD-SIZED DREAMS.
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  • SO TO HELP YOU FURTHER TO UNWRAP THE REALITY EVER
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  • ALL GOD HAS SET IN PLACE FOR YOU, WE'LL ALSO SEND
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  • YOU BISHOP TD JAKES COMPLETE SIX DVD AND SIX
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  • CD SERIES, DESTINY STEPS, IN GRATITUDE FOR YOUR
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  • GIFT OF SUPPORT OF $175 TO TBN.
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  • THANKS TO PARTNERS AND FRIENDS LIKE YOU, TBN IS
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  • TAKING THE GOSPEL MESSAGE OF HOPE AND GRACE TO
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  • MILLIONS OF SOULS ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
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  • CALL THE NUMBER BELOW OR GO SECURELY ONLINE TO THE
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  • WEBSITE BELOW TO SHARE A GIFT OF SUPPORT AND
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  • REQUEST YOUR COPY OF THE TURN YOUR DREAM INTO YOUR
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  • DESTINY DVD CD SET OR FOR YOUR GIFT OF $60 OR MORE,
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  • WE'LL ADD THE DESTINY AND CHASE THE LION BOOKS OR
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  • RECEIVE ALL THESE RESOURCES PLUS BISHOP
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  • JAKES COMPLETE SIX DVD AND SIX CD SERIES DESTINY
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  • STEPS FOR YOUR GENEROUS GIFT OF $175 OR MORE.
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  • CALL, CLICK, OR WRITE TODAY.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: SO AS YOU'RE THINKING, PRAYING,
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  • DREAMING ABOUT SOME VISION THAT GOD'S PUT IN
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  • YOUR HEART --YOU KNOW, IF I PERSONALIZE WHAT WE'RE
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  • TALKING TODAY, I WOULD HAVE TO START WITH WHEN I
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  • WAS 11 YEARS OLD AND MY MOM AND THOUGHT THAT GOD
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  • WAS LEADING THEM TO BUY A TV STATION.
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  • WELL, THAT WAS A 500 POUND LION IN 1973, SO
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  • WE SNAPPED FORWARD ALL THESE YEARS, AND THE IDEA
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  • OF EXPANDING TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK AND
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  • MORE LANGUAGE NETWORKS.
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  • WE'VE JUST ADDED THE FOURTH KIND OF MIDDLE
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  • EASTERN LANGUAGE.
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  • TURKISH IS THE LANGUAGE.
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  • WE HAVE ARABIC CHANNELS.
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  • WE HAVE FARSI CHANNELS.
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  • WE HAVE URDU CHANNELS AND NOW WE HAVE A
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  • TURKISH CHANNEL.
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  • SO THE IDEA THAT WE ARE SOMEWHAT CHASING THAT
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  • LION USING YOUR ANALOGY.
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  • BUT WHERE DOES IT START FOR SOMEONE?
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  • HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT POINT?
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  • WHEN WE DEVELOPED OUR 40TH YEARBOOK RECENTLY, I
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  • STARTED THAT BOOK PUTTING IT TOGETHER WITH A
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  • PICTURE OF MY MOM AND DAD ON THEIR KNEES BECAUSE IT
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  • SEEMED LIKE THE BOX OF PICTURES FROM THE EARLY
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  • 70'S THEY WERE ALWAYS PRAYING, SO I'M JUMPING OFF
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  • YOUR OPENING STATEMENT THAT THE BIGGER YOUR
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  • DREAM, THE MORE YOU PRAY, AND THE MORE YOU PRAY THE
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  • BIGGER THE DREAM, AND THAT'S THE WAY GOD KEEPS
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  • YOU ON YOUR KNEES, I GUESS.
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  • AND SO WE SIT HERE WITH A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF
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  • WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WHERE DOES
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  • THAT START FOR SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T HAVE PARENTS
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  • THAT CHASED A LION?
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  • - YEAH.
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  • LET ME ZOOM OUT AND JUST KIND OF PUT A
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  • FRAME AROUND THIS.
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  • WE HAVE A CHRISTMAS EVE TRADITION.
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  • MY WIFE AND I WATCH IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE , AND MY
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  • KIDS WATCH INCEPTION .
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  • I GUESS THAT PUTS THEM INTO THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT.
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  • [ LAUGHTER ] BUT THERE'S THIS BEAUTIFUL SCENE
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  • WHERE THERE'S THIS IDEA OF IMPLANTING A DREAM
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  • THREE LEVELS DOWN AND THIS IDEA OF A DREAM
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  • WITHIN A DREAM.
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  • NOW, IT'S ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM EDGAR ALLEN POE POEM
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  • THAT WAS WRITTEN I THINK IN THE 1850'S, BUT THE
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  • IDEA IS THIS, MATT.
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  • I DON'T THINK OUR DREAMS STARTS WITH US.
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  • I THINK IT STARTS WITH THE HEAVENLY FATHER WHO
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  • HAS PLANS AND PURPOSES AND DREAMS WHO KNITS US
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  • TOGETHER FOR WHAT?
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  • FOR THE DREAM THAT HE WANTS TO GIVE TO US.
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  • AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE,
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  • AND SO IN 1973, THERE'S THIS DREAM THAT'S
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  • CONCEIVED, BUT NOW HERE WE ARE 40 YEARS LATER,
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  • AND THERE IS THIS DREAM WITHIN A DREAM.
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  • BUT HERE'S WHERE I WOULD CHALLENGE THOSE WHO ARE
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  • LISTENING TO NOT JUST APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
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  • THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE US WHO HAVE
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  • SET US UP TO PURSUE OUR DREAMS, BUT WE THINK THAT
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  • WHAT GOD DOES FOR US IS FOR US, BUT IT'S NEVER
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  • JUST FOR US.
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  • IT'S ALWAYS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
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  • WE THINK RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
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  • GOD IS THINKING NATIONS AND GENERATIONS.
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  • SO MAYBE THE DREAM 40 YEARS AGO WAS CAN WE GET
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  • A STATION OFF THE GROUND, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING
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  • ABOUT ALL OF THESE LANGUAGES, REACHING
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  • UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUPS.
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  • SO GOD HAD THAT IN HIS HEART, IN HIS MIND
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  • 40 YEARS AGO.
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  • NOW, THAT'S PAST OUR PAY GRADE.
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  • AND I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT GOD WANTS
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  • TO DO IN AND THROUGH ME, BUT I DO KNOW THIS, I
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  • WANT TO DO SOME THINGS THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE
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  • 100 YEARS FROM NOW.
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  • AND HE'S THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB.
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  • - SO SOMEONE THAT DIDN'T GROW UP IN A CHRISTIAN
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  • HOME, NOW SAVED FOLLOWER OF JESUS, HOW DO THEY START?
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  • - YEAH.
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  • I THINK RIGHT AT GROUND LEVEL, THERE ARE A LOT OF
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  • PEOPLE WATCHING THAT YOU MIGHT NOT CALL YOURSELF A
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  • DREAMER, BUT I WOULD PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT.
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  • IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE BOTH DO,
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  • I HAVE THREE CHILDREN, MY WIFE AND I.
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  • I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE THREE DREAMS, AND WE GAVE
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  • THEM NAMES WHEN THEY WERE BORN.
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  • AND SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY THINK OF IT
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  • THAT WAY, BUT I MEAN, FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE
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  • CHURCH I PASTOR IS THE VISION OR THE DREAM THAT
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  • I HAVE FOR MY CHILDREN.
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  • NOW, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS.
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  • THEY HAVE TO FIND THEIR OWN WAY FORWARD, AND GOD
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  • DOESN'T HAVE GRANDCHILDREN.
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  • THEY NEED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
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  • BUT I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THE DREAM THAT IS
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  • NEAREST AND DEAREST TO MY HEART IS MY CHILDREN, AND
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  • SO THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO ENCOURAGE VIEWERS THAT
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  • YOU MIGHT FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A DREAM, BUT I
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  • ACTUALLY THINK YOU DO.
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  • AND THEN BEYOND THAT, GOD BEGINS TO GIVE US DREAMS
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  • I BELIEVE FOR EVERY AREA OF OUR LIFE.
  • 00:11:08.230 --> 00:11:11.060
  • - SO YOU TOOK BASICALLY AN OLD TESTAMENT STORY,
  • 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:17.200
  • BENAIAH ON A SNOWY DAY, AND YOU HAVE
  • 00:11:17.220 --> 00:11:22.250
  • REALLY MADE IT REALLY ALMOST A DECADE OF
  • 00:11:22.270 --> 00:11:27.260
  • LION CHASERS.
  • 00:11:27.280 --> 00:11:30.070
  • WE HAVE THE LION CHASERS MANIFESTO.
  • 00:11:30.090 --> 00:11:33.040
  • WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN A PIT -- CIRCLE MAKERS.
  • 00:11:33.060 --> 00:11:36.190
  • YOU'VE GOT CHASE THE LION, THE NEWEST BOOK,
  • 00:11:36.210 --> 00:11:39.120
  • MARK, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:11:39.140 --> 00:11:41.290
  • AND ULTIMATELY THINK OF IT, IF WE COULD HAVE ALL
  • 00:11:42.010 --> 00:11:45.200
  • OF OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE AROUND THE WORLD REALLY
  • 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:50.000
  • LET THIS IMPLANT INSIDE -AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVE
  • 00:11:50.020 --> 00:11:54.090
  • A LOT OF MARK BATTERSON'S STUFF AVAILABLE BY
  • 00:11:54.110 --> 00:11:57.040
  • GOING TO THE SCREEN THIS ENTIRE BROADCAST.
  • 00:11:57.060 --> 00:11:59.080
  • THE CHASE THE LION, THE NEWEST BOOK, IS ONE OF
  • 00:11:59.100 --> 00:12:04.020
  • THE MONTHLY GIFTS THAT WE HAVE GOING, AND THANK YOU
  • 00:12:04.040 --> 00:12:07.120
  • FOR BEING WITH US.
  • 00:12:07.140 --> 00:12:11.020
  • THIS IS NOT A GREEN SCREEN.
  • 00:12:11.040 --> 00:12:12.260
  • - IT'S NOT.
  • 00:12:12.280 --> 00:12:15.010
  • - WE'RE IN WASHINGTON, AND THAT IS THE
  • 00:12:15.030 --> 00:12:16.250
  • CAPITOL BACK THERE.
  • 00:12:16.270 --> 00:12:18.190
  • - IT'S YOUR HOMETOWN.
  • 00:12:18.210 --> 00:12:20.170
  • - AND YOU'RE A SENIOR PASTOR HERE IN
  • 00:12:20.190 --> 00:12:22.290
  • WASHINGTON, SO THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE TO COME
  • 00:12:23.010 --> 00:12:25.120
  • INTO YOUR CITY AND BE WITH YOU.
  • 00:12:25.140 --> 00:12:27.180
  • BUT THINK OF THE IMPACT OF A NEW GENERATION OF
  • 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:33.260
  • JUST FULL-ON, LION-CHASING CRAZY PEOPLE.
  • 00:12:33.280 --> 00:12:39.140
  • SO WHAT DO YOU FIND IS THE BIGGEST REASON PEOPLE
  • 00:12:39.160 --> 00:12:43.130
  • WON'T OR CAN'T OR WILL NOT PURSUE A DREAM?
  • 00:12:43.150 --> 00:12:47.190
  • BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT
  • 00:12:47.210 --> 00:12:50.170
  • THEY WANT TO GET ACCOMPLISHED.
  • 00:12:50.190 --> 00:12:52.240
  • SO WHAT'S THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE MOST OF THE TIME?
  • 00:12:52.260 --> 00:12:55.180
  • - SHORT ANSWER, FEAR.
  • 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.270
  • NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT PSYCHOLOGISTS
  • 00:12:57.290 --> 00:13:00.090
  • TELL US WE'RE ONLY BORN WITH TWO FEARS, THE FEAR OF
  • 00:13:00.110 --> 00:13:02.230
  • FALLING AND THE FEAR OF LOUD NOISES, BUT I THINK
  • 00:13:02.250 --> 00:13:05.200
  • WE HAVE ABOUT 2.000 FEARS AND PHOBIAS AND
  • 00:13:05.220 --> 00:13:09.240
  • EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, BUT THAT MEANS THAT ALL
  • 00:13:09.260 --> 00:13:12.270
  • THOSE OTHER FEARS ARE LEARNED WHICH MEANS THEY
  • 00:13:12.290 --> 00:13:15.290
  • CAN BE UNLEARNED.
  • 00:13:16.010 --> 00:13:18.190
  • AND FIRST JOHN 4: 18 SAYS THAT PERFECT LOVE CASTS
  • 00:13:18.210 --> 00:13:21.180
  • OUT ALL FEAR, SO I THINK FAITH IS THE PROCESS OF
  • 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.260
  • UNLEARNING THOSE FEARS.
  • 00:13:24.280 --> 00:13:27.000
  • NOW, HERE'S WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.
  • 00:13:27.020 --> 00:13:29.050
  • I THINK SOME PEOPLE THINK OR WE WISH THAT THE CURE
  • 00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:32.070
  • FOR THE FEAR OF FAILURE WAS SUCCESS.
  • 00:13:32.090 --> 00:13:35.060
  • WOULDN'T THAT BE WONDERFUL?
  • 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.030
  • BUT I THINK THE CURE FOR THE FEAR OF FAILURE IS
  • 00:13:37.050 --> 00:13:39.220
  • FAILURE IN SOME ENOUGH DOSES THAT YOU BUILD UP
  • 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:43.140
  • AN IMMUNITY TO IT, THAT YOU REALIZE THAT GOD
  • 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:45.270
  • IS STILL THERE.
  • 00:13:45.290 --> 00:13:48.110
  • HE'S THERE TO PICK YOU RIGHT BACK UP, TO DUST YOU OFF.
  • 00:13:48.130 --> 00:13:51.020
  • MATT AND LAURIE, YOU REFERENCE THE CHURCH AND
  • 00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:54.210
  • I'VE HAD THE JOY AND PRIVILEGE OF PASTORING
  • 00:13:54.230 --> 00:13:58.200
  • THIS CONGREGATION, ONE CHURCH IN EIGHT LOCATIONS
  • 00:13:58.220 --> 00:14:01.150
  • AROUND THE DC AREAS.
  • 00:14:01.170 --> 00:14:03.250
  • AND GOD HAS BLESSED IT, BUT THERE'S A BACK STORY.
  • 00:14:03.270 --> 00:14:06.230
  • WHEN I WAS IN SEMINARY, WE TRIED TO PLANT A
  • 00:14:06.250 --> 00:14:09.230
  • CHURCH IN CHICAGO.
  • 00:14:09.250 --> 00:14:11.280
  • I HAD A 25 YEAR PLAN.
  • 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.160
  • NOW, I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY BUT IT'S
  • 00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:16.230
  • AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE 22.
  • 00:14:16.250 --> 00:14:18.250
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:14:18.270 --> 00:14:21.020
  • SO I THOUGHT I HAD IT ALL FIGURED OUT.
  • 00:14:21.040 --> 00:14:23.060
  • I MEAN, THIS THING WAS GOING TO TURN TO GOLD.
  • 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.160
  • AND THAT FIRST CHURCH PLANT FAILED.
  • 00:14:25.180 --> 00:14:27.210
  • BUT I'M ETERNALLY GRATEFUL BECAUSE THE LORD
  • 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:30.160
  • TAUGHT ME THAT UNLESS HE BUILDS THE HOUSE, THEY
  • 00:14:30.180 --> 00:14:33.260
  • WHO LABOR, LABOR IN VAIN.
  • 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:36.110
  • AND HE ALSO TAUGHT ME THAT LISTEN, YOU HAVE
  • 00:14:36.130 --> 00:14:39.120
  • NOTHING TO FEAR.
  • 00:14:39.140 --> 00:14:41.230
  • IF YOU FEAR GOD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEAR
  • 00:14:41.250 --> 00:14:44.050
  • ANYTHING ELSE, AND SO I THINK FAITH IS THAT
  • 00:14:44.070 --> 00:14:46.260
  • PROCESS OF UNLEARNING THOSE FEARS, AND IT
  • 00:14:46.280 --> 00:14:50.130
  • STARTS WITH FACING THEM.
  • 00:14:50.150 --> 00:14:52.240
  • - HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO REALIZE THAT
  • 00:14:52.260 --> 00:14:54.260
  • CHURCH PLANT FAILED?
  • 00:14:54.280 --> 00:14:56.250
  • WHAT WAS THE PROCESS OF KNOWING FAILURE?
  • 00:14:56.270 --> 00:14:59.210
  • - THAT IS SUCH A GREAT QUESTION, MATT.
  • 00:14:59.230 --> 00:15:02.060
  • AND I THINK WE USUALLY FIGURE IT OUT LATER THAN
  • 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.240
  • WE SHOULD AND PROBABLY INFLICT MORE PAIN.
  • 00:15:05.260 --> 00:15:10.130
  • - EVERYONE TELLING YOU?
  • 00:15:10.150 --> 00:15:12.190
  • [ LAUGHTER ] - BECAUSE YOU'RE FIGHTING IT WITH
  • 00:15:12.210 --> 00:15:14.230
  • FAITH AT SOME POINT SO WHEN DID YOU KNOW
  • 00:15:14.250 --> 00:15:16.200
  • IT WAS FAILURE.
  • 00:15:16.220 --> 00:15:18.140
  • - YOU ARE.
  • 00:15:18.160 --> 00:15:20.180
  • WELL, AND THIS IS A PROFOUND QUESTION BECAUSE
  • 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.200
  • YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT -YOU BETTER NOT QUIT ON
  • 00:15:22.220 --> 00:15:25.040
  • IT IF GOD'S NOT RELEASING YOU, BUT IF GOD IS
  • 00:15:25.060 --> 00:15:28.000
  • RELEASING YOU, THEN IT'S ACTUALLY DISOBEDIENCE TO
  • 00:15:28.020 --> 00:15:31.160
  • CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT THING.
  • 00:15:31.180 --> 00:15:34.140
  • AND SO THERE WAS JUST THIS MOMENT WHERE I FELT
  • 00:15:34.160 --> 00:15:37.090
  • LIKE ALL RIGHT, LORD, THIS WAS OUR 25 YEAR
  • 00:15:37.110 --> 00:15:39.240
  • PLAN, AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU'RE TAKING US
  • 00:15:39.260 --> 00:15:43.130
  • SOMEWHERE ELSE, SO IT WAS MONTHS OF DISCOURAGEMENT.
  • 00:15:43.150 --> 00:15:47.000
  • - CAN YOU THINK OF ONE LONELY EVENING OR AFTERNOON
  • 00:15:47.020 --> 00:15:54.000
  • OR MORNING IN THE PIT WITH THE LION?
  • 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:56.000
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:15:56.020 --> 00:15:58.260
  • PROBABLY A TOUGH COUNSELING SESSION WITH
  • 00:15:58.280 --> 00:16:02.120
  • SOME FOLKS IN OUR CORE GROUP, AND WE REALIZED IT
  • 00:16:02.140 --> 00:16:06.060
  • WAS IMPLODING.
  • 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.220
  • AND TO WATCH A DREAM DIE IT'S A LOSS, AND IT'S PAINFUL.
  • 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:16.180
  • BUT HERE'S WHERE I WANT TO SPEAK A WORD
  • 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.180
  • OF ENCOURAGEMENT.
  • 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.210
  • - PLEASE.
  • 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:24.000
  • - BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND THAT ABOUT EVERY DREAM
  • 00:16:24.020 --> 00:16:27.020
  • I'VE EVER HAD HAS GONE THROUGH A DEATH AND A
  • 00:16:27.040 --> 00:16:29.180
  • RESURRECTION, AND SO THE DEATH IS PAINFUL, BUT
  • 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:34.180
  • PART OF IT IS DYING TO SELF, DYING TO EGO, AND
  • 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.150
  • IN THAT RESURRECTION PROCESS IT ENSURES THAT
  • 00:16:37.170 --> 00:16:42.110
  • GOD'S GOING TO GET THE GLORY.
  • 00:16:42.130 --> 00:16:44.270
  • SO BE ENCOURAGED, IF YOU HAVE A DREAM THAT YOU
  • 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:47.140
  • THINK IS DEAD, DON'T BE SURPRISED IF GOD DOES HIS
  • 00:16:47.160 --> 00:16:52.070
  • RESURRECT -BECAUSE HE DOESN'T JUST RESURRECTS BODIES.
  • 00:16:52.090 --> 00:17:01.240
  • HE RESURRECTS MARRIAGES AND HE RESURRECTS DREAMS,
  • 00:17:01.260 --> 00:17:05.110
  • AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT HE CAN'T RESURRECT, BRING
  • 00:17:05.130 --> 00:17:10.060
  • BACK TO LIFE FOR HIS GLORY.
  • 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:13.020
  • - DO YOU FIND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE -OKAY,
  • 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:16.180
  • YOU COULD HAVE JUST SAID THIS FAILED AND I'M GOING
  • 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.110
  • TO GO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW
  • 00:17:19.130 --> 00:17:21.250
  • BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO EVER HOPE THAT BIG.
  • 00:17:21.270 --> 00:17:25.010
  • I DON'T WANT TO EVER DREAM THAT BIG
  • 00:17:25.030 --> 00:17:26.210
  • BECAUSE I'LL FAIL.
  • 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:29.060
  • YOU DIDN'T LET THAT GET YOU DOWN, SO HOW DID YOU
  • 00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:31.210
  • GET TO WASHINGTON AND START -NOW YOU'VE GOT A
  • 00:17:31.230 --> 00:17:35.260
  • THRIVING 7, 8 CAMPUSES HERE, ONE CHURCH, AN
  • 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:39.280
  • AMAZING NATIONAL COMMUNITY CHURCH, RIGHT?
  • 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.020
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:17:43.040 --> 00:17:45.130
  • - AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE STOPPED AND
  • 00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:48.220
  • WOULD HAVE WENT AND STARTED A YOGURT SHOP
  • 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.020
  • DOWN THE STREET OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:17:51.040 --> 00:17:52.190
  • - I LIKE YOGURT.
  • 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:54.200
  • - WELL, START A COFFEE SHOP.
  • 00:17:54.220 --> 00:17:56.170
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:17:56.190 --> 00:17:58.190
  • - YOU SERVE YOGURT?
  • 00:17:58.210 --> 00:18:00.150
  • - WE DO.
  • 00:18:00.170 --> 00:18:03.090
  • - GIVE US THE FULL STORY ON HOW THEN YOU HAD THE
  • 00:18:03.110 --> 00:18:05.180
  • COURAGE TO START AGAIN.
  • 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.280
  • - WELL, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE DID -WHEN
  • 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.010
  • A COMPASS NEEDLE IS SPINNING AND NOW WE DON'T
  • 00:18:11.030 --> 00:18:14.110
  • KNOW WHERE TO GO OR WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:18:14.130 --> 00:18:16.200
  • I'M ABOUT TO GRADUATE FROM SEMINARY.
  • 00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:19.070
  • THIS CHURCH PLANT IS NOT HAPPENING, BUT WOW, THAT
  • 00:18:19.090 --> 00:18:24.020
  • WILL OPEN YOU UP TO ANYTHING, EVERYTHING
  • 00:18:24.040 --> 00:18:26.290
  • AND ANYWHERE.
  • 00:18:27.010 --> 00:18:29.170
  • AND LONG STORY SHORT, I WAS JUST FLIPPING THROUGH
  • 00:18:29.190 --> 00:18:32.060
  • A MINISTRY MAGAZINE, AND I SAW THIS INNER CITY
  • 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:34.270
  • MINISTRY HERE IN DC, AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD JUST
  • 00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:39.130
  • STOPPED ME IN MY TRACKS.
  • 00:18:39.150 --> 00:18:41.150
  • I MADE A PHONE CALL.
  • 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:43.170
  • THAT PHONE CALL LED TO A TRIP OUT HERE.
  • 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.280
  • I'D NEVER BEEN HERE, AND, OH MY GOODNESS, I JUST
  • 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:50.210
  • REALIZED WE'RE SITTING WITHIN A BLOCK OF WHERE I
  • 00:18:50.230 --> 00:18:58.170
  • FELT CALLED TO THIS CITY.
  • 00:18:58.190 --> 00:19:01.230
  • THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN 22 YEARS AGO.
  • 00:19:01.250 --> 00:19:05.120
  • WE'RE DRIVING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO THE
  • 00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:08.120
  • CAPITOL, AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:19:08.140 --> 00:19:11.110
  • SOMETIMES GOD -THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF
  • 00:19:11.130 --> 00:19:14.120
  • CALLINGS, BUT ONE OF THEM IS GEOGRAPHICAL.
  • 00:19:14.140 --> 00:19:16.200
  • AND I KNEW THAT THE LORD HAD CALLED US HERE, AND
  • 00:19:16.220 --> 00:19:20.200
  • SO WE LITERALLY PACKED EVERYTHING INTO A 15 FOOT
  • 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:24.230
  • U-HAUL AND DROVE 595 MILES.
  • 00:19:24.250 --> 00:19:28.070
  • I CALL IT OUR 595 MILE STEP OF FAITH, AND WE
  • 00:19:28.090 --> 00:19:32.140
  • DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
  • 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:35.240
  • WE DIDN'T HAVE A GUARANTEED SALARY, BUT WE
  • 00:19:35.260 --> 00:19:38.230
  • HAD FAITH THAT GOD WAS PREPARING A GOOD WORK IN
  • 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:42.010
  • ADVANCE, AND HERE WE ARE IN THIS SPOT.
  • 00:19:42.030 --> 00:19:44.250
  • I MEAN, THIS IS HOLY GROUND FOR ME, THE PLACE
  • 00:19:44.270 --> 00:19:47.220
  • WHERE WE'RE FILMING WAS NOT HERE 22 YEARS AGO,
  • 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:53.040
  • BUT RIGHT HERE ON PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
  • 00:19:53.060 --> 00:19:56.050
  • THANKS FOR LETTING ME HAVE THAT MOMENT WITH YOU.
  • 00:19:56.070 --> 00:19:58.090
  • - DO ME A FAVOR.
  • 00:19:58.110 --> 00:20:00.240
  • THERE'S VIEWING AUDIENCE AROUND THE WORLD, MARK,
  • 00:20:00.260 --> 00:20:03.050
  • THAT ARE IN THAT MOMENT--
  • 00:20:03.070 --> 00:20:05.200
  • - YES.
  • 00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:07.180
  • - THEY'RE STUCK THERE.
  • 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:10.010
  • YOU KNOW, IN THIS LITTLE MOMENT OF REALIZATION
  • 00:20:10.030 --> 00:20:12.220
  • THAT GOD RELEASED YOU FROM YOUR FIRST FAILED
  • 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.220
  • ATTEMPT AT CHURCH, THIS WAS REALLY WHERE YOU WERE
  • 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:19.190
  • SUPPOSED TO BE IN GOD'S PLAN.
  • 00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:21.260
  • THERE'S SOME PEOPLE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN THAT
  • 00:20:21.280 --> 00:20:25.020
  • HORRIBLE, NEEDLE-SPINNING MOMENT.
  • 00:20:25.040 --> 00:20:28.040
  • WHY DON'T YOU PRAY FOR THEM IF YOU WOULD.
  • 00:20:28.060 --> 00:20:29.270
  • - I WANT TO DO THAT.
  • 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:31.120
  • - THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
  • 00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:33.150
  • - YEAH. FATHER, I JUST THANK YOU RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:20:33.170 --> 00:20:35.120
  • NO SOMEONE VIEWING BY ACCIDENT.
  • 00:20:35.140 --> 00:20:36.290
  • I BELIEVE THEIR DIVINE APPOINTMENTS HAPPENING
  • 00:20:37.010 --> 00:20:39.180
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.150
  • AND I THANK YOU THAT YOU'RE THE GOD THAT IS
  • 00:20:41.170 --> 00:20:43.210
  • BIG ENOUGH TO SPEAK TO EACH ONE OF US IN AN
  • 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:46.200
  • ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE DIALECT, IN A WAY THAT WE
  • 00:20:46.220 --> 00:20:50.080
  • CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE'RE YOU'RE WORKMANSHIP
  • 00:20:50.100 --> 00:20:53.090
  • CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS TO DO GOOD WORKS PREPARED
  • 00:20:53.110 --> 00:20:56.080
  • FOR US IN ADVANCE.
  • 00:20:56.100 --> 00:20:58.220
  • SO I FIRST PRAY THAT YOUR SPIRIT WOULD BREATHE NEW
  • 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:02.170
  • LIFE AND HOPE AND ENCOURAGEMENT INTO
  • 00:21:02.190 --> 00:21:05.110
  • PEOPLE'S SPIRITS.
  • 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:07.190
  • JUST AS YOU BREATHE INTO THE DUST AND IT BECAME
  • 00:21:07.210 --> 00:21:12.020
  • LIFE, WOULD YOU BREATHE INTO US RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:21:12.040 --> 00:21:15.040
  • AND LORD, I THANK YOU THAT AS I LOOK AT
  • 00:21:15.060 --> 00:21:18.200
  • SCRIPTURE, YOU'RE THE DREAM GIVER, AND YOU DO
  • 00:21:18.220 --> 00:21:21.260
  • IT IN A THOUSAND DIFFERENT WAYS.
  • 00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:24.180
  • IT CAN BE A BURNING BUSH ON THE BACKSIDE
  • 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:27.240
  • OF THE DESERT.
  • 00:21:27.260 --> 00:21:30.090
  • IT CAN BE TENDING SHEEP OR WAITING ON A KING LIKE
  • 00:21:30.110 --> 00:21:34.000
  • NEHEMIAH OR A CONVERSATION WITH AN
  • 00:21:34.020 --> 00:21:36.210
  • UNCLE LIKE ESTHER OR EVEN SAUL, JUST RIDING HIS
  • 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:41.030
  • HORSE ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS, YOU CAN SHOW UP
  • 00:21:41.050 --> 00:21:44.260
  • AND SHOW OFF AND REVEAL YOUR PLANS AND PURPOSES,
  • 00:21:44.280 --> 00:21:49.120
  • AND I PRAY THAT RIGHT NOW FOR THOSE
  • 00:21:49.140 --> 00:21:52.010
  • WHO ARE LISTENING.
  • 00:21:52.030 --> 00:21:54.050
  • YOU SPOKE TO ME THROUGH A MAGAZINE ARTICLE.
  • 00:21:54.070 --> 00:21:56.210
  • GOD, WOULD YOU BEGIN TO SPEAK TO US.
  • 00:21:56.230 --> 00:21:59.000
  • - THANK YOU, LORD.
  • 00:21:59.020 --> 00:22:01.030
  • - SO THAT WE BEGIN TO DISCERN YOUR PLANS, YOUR
  • 00:22:01.050 --> 00:22:02.250
  • PURPOSES, YOUR DREAMS FOR US.
  • 00:22:02.270 --> 00:22:04.280
  • I PRAY IT IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.110
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:22:08.130 --> 00:22:10.150
  • - WE ARE IN WASHINGTON DC IS THE VIEW OVER OUR
  • 00:22:10.170 --> 00:22:12.240
  • SHOULDER MAKES VERY OBVIOUS, AND IF YOU NEED
  • 00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:16.200
  • TO KNOW MORE ABOUT MARK BATTERSON, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
  • 00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:21.010
  • - HE HEADS UP ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST
  • 00:22:21.030 --> 00:22:23.100
  • INNOVATIVE CHURCHES.
  • 00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:25.220
  • MARK BATTERSON, LEAD PASTOR OF NATIONAL COMMUNITY
  • 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:27.140
  • CHURCH IN WASHINGTON DC.
  • 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.240
  • BUT IT'S NOT JUST ANY CHURCH.
  • 00:22:29.260 --> 00:22:32.050
  • IT'S AN 8 SITE FACILITY HELD IN RETROFITTED
  • 00:22:32.070 --> 00:22:34.090
  • THEATERS SPORTING A CROWD OF 20 SOMETHING'S.
  • 00:22:34.110 --> 00:22:36.230
  • BATTERSON'S GOAL?
  • 00:22:36.250 --> 00:22:39.100
  • IS TO REACH THE NEXT GENERATION WITH THE
  • 00:22:39.120 --> 00:22:41.240
  • GOSPEL IN THE COOLEST WAY POSSIBLE.
  • 00:22:41.260 --> 00:22:43.170
  • HE ALSO OWNS THE NUMBER ONE VOTED COFFEE HOUSE IN
  • 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:45.190
  • WASHINGTON DC, AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
  • 00:22:45.210 --> 00:22:48.040
  • BATTERSON IS A NEW YORK TIMES, BEST-SELLING
  • 00:22:48.060 --> 00:22:50.110
  • AUTHOR OF 14 BOOKS INCLUDING HIS MOST
  • 00:22:50.130 --> 00:22:53.010
  • RECENT, CHASE THE LION.
  • 00:22:53.030 --> 00:22:55.100
  • HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT ON PRAISE, MARK BATTERSON.
  • 00:22:55.120 --> 00:22:59.040
  • - MARK, WE ARE SITTING HERE NATION'S CAPITOL.
  • 00:22:59.060 --> 00:23:02.230
  • IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS LATELY.
  • 00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:05.250
  • - BY THE WAY.
  • 00:23:05.270 --> 00:23:07.130
  • - HAS IT? REALLY?
  • 00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:08.280
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:10.190
  • IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS SO OCCASIONALLY YOU HEAR
  • 00:23:10.210 --> 00:23:12.250
  • ABOUT WASHINGTON DC NOW FOR SOME REASON.
  • 00:23:12.270 --> 00:23:14.170
  • I'M NOT SURE WHY, AND WE ARE SITTING HERE NOW WITH
  • 00:23:14.190 --> 00:23:17.170
  • MARK BATTERSON.
  • 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:19.160
  • HE IS THE PASTOR OF NCC, NATIONAL COMMUNITY CHURCH
  • 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:21.260
  • THRIVING ALL THROUGH THE CITY.
  • 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:25.100
  • OKAY.
  • 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:29.120
  • YOU'RE KIND OF AN OLD SOUL IN A YOUNG GUY'S BODY.
  • 00:23:29.140 --> 00:23:33.220
  • SKINNY JEANS, THE WHOLE THING, THE GLASSES, BUT
  • 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:36.200
  • YOU'RE KIND OF AN OLD SOUL.
  • 00:23:36.220 --> 00:23:40.110
  • WHEN WE WERE ON THE PHONE A WHILE BACK, I MENTIONED
  • 00:23:40.130 --> 00:23:46.070
  • AN OLD TIMERS NAME, PAUL BILLHEIMER.
  • 00:23:46.090 --> 00:23:51.110
  • PAUL BILLHEIMER WAS ONE OF THE PATRIARCHS OF THE
  • 00:23:51.130 --> 00:23:56.130
  • EARLY DAYS OF TRINITY IN 1973.
  • 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:59.200
  • WE'RE NOW 2017, SOME 43, 44 YEARS LATER HERE
  • 00:23:59.220 --> 00:24:02.130
  • WE ARE, BUT ONE OF THE ORIGINAL -- MY MOM AND DAD
  • 00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:11.200
  • LOVED PAUL BILLHEIMER, AND HE WAS AN AUTHOR, AND
  • 00:24:11.220 --> 00:24:14.110
  • HE WROTE A BOOK CALLED DON'T WASTE YOUR SORROWS.
  • 00:24:14.130 --> 00:24:18.140
  • THERE IS A LOT OF THAT KIND OF OLD SOUL TEACHING
  • 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:25.170
  • IN CHASE THE LION.
  • 00:24:25.190 --> 00:24:27.220
  • OKAY, SO CHASE THE LION IS REALLY DON'T LET A
  • 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:31.020
  • FAILURE STOP YOU.
  • 00:24:31.040 --> 00:24:34.090
  • DON'T LET, YOU KNOW, DISCOURAGEMENT STOP YOU.
  • 00:24:34.110 --> 00:24:37.160
  • AND WE'VE TOUCHED ON A VERY UNIQUE THING.
  • 00:24:37.180 --> 00:24:41.020
  • WHEN DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING HAS FAILED?
  • 00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:43.160
  • BECAUSE NO ONE EVER WANTS TO GIVE UP ON SOMETHING.
  • 00:24:43.180 --> 00:24:46.040
  • WE HEAR SERMONS ABOUT NOT GIVING UP ONE DAY BEFORE
  • 00:24:46.060 --> 00:24:49.170
  • THE BREAKTHROUGH AND ALL OF THAT, AND THERE'S A
  • 00:24:49.190 --> 00:24:52.120
  • LOT OF THAT, BUT AT SOME POINT THERE ARE GOING TO
  • 00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:56.280
  • BE FAILURES, AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE THOSE
  • 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.230
  • TYPES OF THINGS, BUT GOD USES THAT TO
  • 00:25:00.250 --> 00:25:02.270
  • TRANSFORM YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:25:02.290 --> 00:25:05.030
  • SO DON'T WASTE YOUR SORROWS FROM PAUL BILLHEIMER,
  • 00:25:05.050 --> 00:25:07.010
  • THE IDEA OF THAT WAS GOOD, BAD AND UGLY IS
  • 00:25:07.030 --> 00:25:09.120
  • MEANT TO BE CREATING AGAPE LOVE IN YOU, AND
  • 00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:12.280
  • NOTHING EVER IN LIFE IS GOING TO MAKE SENSE IF
  • 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.120
  • YOU DON'T STRETCH YOUR LIFE OUT OVER AND INCLUDE
  • 00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:20.000
  • ETERNITY BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS CAN ONLY MAKE
  • 00:25:20.020 --> 00:25:22.210
  • SENSE THERE WHEN THIS AGAPE LOVE IS THE
  • 00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:24.230
  • CURRENCY OF FOREVER.
  • 00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:27.210
  • AND SO WE ARE MEANT TO BE TRANSFORMED.
  • 00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:32.060
  • YOU SAID SOMETHING IN THE VERY OPENING OF THIS
  • 00:25:32.080 --> 00:25:35.130
  • BROADCAST ABOUT SHAPING YOU ON THE WAY TO YOUR
  • 00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:39.220
  • DREAM, SO IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT JUST
  • 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:41.200
  • ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING.
  • 00:25:41.220 --> 00:25:45.040
  • IT'S ABOUT BEING SHAPED.
  • 00:25:45.060 --> 00:25:47.080
  • TALK ABOUT THAT A MINUTE BECAUSE THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
  • 00:25:47.100 --> 00:25:51.160
  • - YEAH. YEAH.
  • 00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:54.090
  • WELL, THE CONTEXT OF THIS STORY ABOUT BENAIAH AND
  • 00:25:54.110 --> 00:25:56.130
  • KING DAVID, THEY'RE FUGITIVES.
  • 00:25:56.150 --> 00:26:00.260
  • THEY AREN'T WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.
  • 00:26:00.280 --> 00:26:03.080
  • I MEAN, THEY'RE SLEEPING IN CAVES.
  • 00:26:03.100 --> 00:26:05.250
  • THE KING AND HIS MEN ARE SLEEPING IN THE PALACE.
  • 00:26:05.270 --> 00:26:09.110
  • THIS ISN'T FAIR.
  • 00:26:09.130 --> 00:26:11.220
  • DAVID HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG, AND YET THREE OF
  • 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:16.160
  • MY FAVORITE PSALMS WERE WRITTEN IN THE CAVE OF
  • 00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:21.240
  • ADULLAM AND I WRITE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT
  • 00:26:21.260 --> 00:26:25.060
  • IN THE BOOK.
  • 00:26:25.080 --> 00:26:27.060
  • I CALL THE CAVE SESSIONS.
  • 00:26:27.080 --> 00:26:30.130
  • I THINK WHY WE LOVE THE PSALMS IS BECAUSE WE FIND
  • 00:26:30.150 --> 00:26:33.110
  • SOMEONE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WITH, SOMEONE
  • 00:26:33.130 --> 00:26:36.090
  • WHO HAS BEEN ON THE WRONG SIDE, SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD
  • 00:26:36.110 --> 00:26:39.070
  • SPEARS THROWN AT THEM BY THEIR FATHER-IN-LAW.
  • 00:26:39.090 --> 00:26:42.170
  • AND I HAVE THIS LITTLE THEORY THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:26:42.190 --> 00:26:45.240
  • FOLLOW CHRIST WITHOUT SUFFERING, BUT I DON'T
  • 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:51.090
  • THINK YOU CAN BECOME LIKE CHRIST WITHOUT SUFFERING,
  • 00:26:51.110 --> 00:26:55.160
  • AND WE LOVE IDENTIFYING WITH THE POWER OF THE
  • 00:26:55.180 --> 00:26:59.250
  • RESURRECTION, BUT PAUL ALSO TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:26:59.270 --> 00:27:02.160
  • IDENTIFYING WITH HIS SUFFERING, AND THE GOOD
  • 00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:06.140
  • NEWS IS THAT HE'S THE GOD WHO REDEEMS EVERYTHING.
  • 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:11.200
  • AND SO THE THEORY OF COMPENSATION FOR EXAMPLE
  • 00:27:11.220 --> 00:27:16.030
  • WHICH I TALK ABOUT SOME IN THE BOOK IS THIS IDEA
  • 00:27:16.050 --> 00:27:19.110
  • THAT WHAT WE THINK OF AS DISADVANTAGES, GOD USES
  • 00:27:19.130 --> 00:27:22.290
  • AND FLIPS THEM IN A WAY THAT BECOMES OUR
  • 00:27:23.010 --> 00:27:27.050
  • STRENGTH, AND SO LISTEN, BENAIAH DIDN'T CHASE A CAT.
  • 00:27:27.070 --> 00:27:31.020
  • HE CHASED A 500 POUND LION.
  • 00:27:31.040 --> 00:27:35.290
  • THIS IS THE REAL DEAL.
  • 00:27:36.010 --> 00:27:38.240
  • WHAT MAKES IT SO EPIC IS THAT IT'S SUCH
  • 00:27:38.260 --> 00:27:41.270
  • A HUGE CHALLENGE.
  • 00:27:41.290 --> 00:27:44.120
  • SO AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
  • 00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:47.030
  • LOOK BACK AT OUR LIVES AND IT'S GOING TO BE
  • 00:27:47.050 --> 00:27:49.040
  • THOSE 500 POUND LIONS THAT WE SIT BACK AND
  • 00:27:49.060 --> 00:27:51.130
  • SMILE AND WE SAY LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE.
  • 00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:54.090
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:27:54.110 --> 00:27:56.020
  • I WONDER HOW LONG THAT TOOK HIM.
  • 00:27:56.040 --> 00:27:58.170
  • - IT DOESN'T SAY. IT'S SUCH A SHORT LITTLE STORY.
  • 00:27:58.190 --> 00:28:01.050
  • - YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T.
  • 00:28:01.070 --> 00:28:02.200
  • IT'S SUCH A SYNOPSIS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT LIONS CAN
  • 00:28:02.220 --> 00:28:05.110
  • RUN 35 MILES AN HOUR, SO MUCH FASTER THAN A HUMAN,
  • 00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:10.110
  • BUT THE SNOWY DAY, THAT'S A KEY FACTOR BECAUSE HE
  • 00:28:10.130 --> 00:28:13.000
  • COULD TRACK IT, SO HE TRACKS THESE PRINTS AND
  • 00:28:13.020 --> 00:28:16.050
  • AT SOME POINT THAT LION FALLS INTO A PIT,
  • 00:28:16.070 --> 00:28:19.070
  • AND THERE'S THIS MOMENT, AND SOMEDAY IT NEEDS TO
  • 00:28:19.090 --> 00:28:22.260
  • BE A MOVIE WHERE BENAIAH KIND OF BACKS UP,
  • 00:28:22.280 --> 00:28:26.070
  • AND YOU THINK HE'S WALKING AWAY.
  • 00:28:26.090 --> 00:28:28.010
  • NO, HE'S GETTING A RUNNING START,
  • 00:28:28.030 --> 00:28:30.100
  • LEAPS INTO THAT PIT AND TAKES DOWN THAT LION.
  • 00:28:30.120 --> 00:28:34.250
  • AND OF COURSE THAT WAS THE KEY THAT THEN OPENED
  • 00:28:34.270 --> 00:28:37.230
  • THE DOOR FOR HIM TO BECOME BODYGUARD, MIGHTY
  • 00:28:37.250 --> 00:28:40.240
  • MAN AND EVENTUALLY COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
  • 00:28:40.260 --> 00:28:43.160
  • - OKAY, WE WANT TO RESET.
  • 00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:45.240
  • WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH OUR DISCUSSION
  • 00:28:45.260 --> 00:28:47.130
  • TODAY, AND I WANT TO-- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:28:47.150 --> 00:28:50.160
  • DREAMS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VISION,
  • 00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:52.260
  • AND DO US A FAVOR.
  • 00:28:52.280 --> 00:28:55.230
  • KIND OF ALMOST A LITTLE BIT OF A SERMONETTE
  • 00:28:55.250 --> 00:28:59.200
  • IN REGARD TO WHAT THIS SUBJECT IS.
  • 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:02.100
  • IN OTHER WORDS, THE IDEA THAT GOD REALLY WANTS YOU
  • 00:29:02.120 --> 00:29:08.000
  • SHAPED ALONG THE WAY, BUT HE WANTS YOU TO BE
  • 00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:11.290
  • INSPIRED TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING.
  • 00:29:12.010 --> 00:29:15.060
  • AND I'M READING THE SUB TEXT OFF YOUR BOOK,
  • 00:29:15.080 --> 00:29:19.070
  • AND IF YOUR DREAM DOESN'T SCARE YOU,
  • 00:29:19.090 --> 00:29:21.120
  • IT'S TOO SMALL.
  • 00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:23.120
  • SO YOU'RE REALLY ENCOURAGING US TO JUMP
  • 00:29:23.140 --> 00:29:26.220
  • INTO THE PIT ON TOP OF THE LION ON A SNOWY DAY
  • 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.110
  • WITH A SPEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF TELLING US
  • 00:29:30.130 --> 00:29:32.230
  • TO DO, AND AT THE SAME TIME DON'T BE AFRAID AND
  • 00:29:32.250 --> 00:29:37.110
  • THE NUMBER ONE REASON WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT
  • 00:29:37.130 --> 00:29:38.270
  • IS FEAR. SO PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR,
  • 00:29:38.290 --> 00:29:43.130
  • I MEAN I'M STARTING TO GET THIS THEME.
  • 00:29:43.150 --> 00:29:45.170
  • I READ YOUR BOOK BY THE WAY.
  • 00:29:45.190 --> 00:29:46.280
  • I READ EVERY WORD OF YOUR BOOK. LOVED IT.
  • 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.150
  • IT IS AVAILABLE BY DIALING THAT NUMBER ON
  • 00:29:50.170 --> 00:29:52.270
  • THE SCREEN SO JUST GO TO THE NUMBER,
  • 00:29:52.290 --> 00:29:55.070
  • THE 800 NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:29:55.090 --> 00:29:57.100
  • SO FOR SOMEONE THAT JUST TUNED IN, FOR SOMEONE THAT
  • 00:29:57.120 --> 00:30:00.150
  • REALLY IS STARTING TO ENGAGE,
  • 00:30:00.170 --> 00:30:02.190
  • GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF THIS KIND OF TALK TO US
  • 00:30:02.210 --> 00:30:05.260
  • ABOUT THIS AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US
  • 00:30:05.280 --> 00:30:07.190
  • TO GET INTO THIS.
  • 00:30:07.210 --> 00:30:09.230
  • - YOU KNOW, MATT, COULD I BE SO BOLD AS TO SAY
  • 00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:12.200
  • YOU ARE NOT GONNA FIND THIS BOOK IN THE
  • 00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:14.200
  • SELF-HELP SECTION. THAT IS NOT WHAT IT IS.
  • 00:30:14.220 --> 00:30:17.060
  • IT'S NOT WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
  • 00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:19.060
  • YOU'LL FIND IT IN THE CHRISTIAN LIVING BECAUSE
  • 00:30:19.080 --> 00:30:21.220
  • IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD.
  • 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.100
  • LISTEN, WE NEED A GOD SIZED DREAM THAT'S
  • 00:30:24.120 --> 00:30:27.020
  • IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
  • 00:30:27.040 --> 00:30:28.190
  • IN OTHER WORDS BEYOND OUR RESOURCES,
  • 00:30:28.210 --> 00:30:30.260
  • BEYOND OUR ABILITY, BEYOND OUR LOGIC SO THAT
  • 00:30:30.280 --> 00:30:34.060
  • WHEN IT HAPPENS WE CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR IT,
  • 00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:37.250
  • SO THAT GOD GETS THE GLORY.
  • 00:30:37.270 --> 00:30:39.170
  • AND IF I CAN GET THEOLOGICAL FOR A MOMENT, I THINK THERE
  • 00:30:39.190 --> 00:30:45.220
  • ARE SINS OF COMMISSION AND SINS OF OMISSION.
  • 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.130
  • A SIN OF COMMISSION IS DOING SOMETHING YOU
  • 00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:54.010
  • SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE, AND LISTEN,
  • 00:30:54.030 --> 00:30:56.210
  • THERE ARE THINGS WE SHOULDN'T DO.
  • 00:30:56.230 --> 00:30:59.080
  • SO I'M AGAINST SINS OF COMMISSION.
  • 00:30:59.100 --> 00:31:01.140
  • BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT I THINK BREAKS
  • 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.100
  • THE HEART OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER,
  • 00:31:04.120 --> 00:31:05.210
  • IT'S THE SINS OF OMISSION BECAUSE HE'S A FATHER.
  • 00:31:05.230 --> 00:31:09.140
  • WE'RE FATHERS. WE SEE THE POTENTIAL IN OUR
  • 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.020
  • CHILDREN AND WE WANT TO SEE THEM LIVE UP TO THAT.
  • 00:31:13.040 --> 00:31:17.010
  • POTENTIAL IS GOD'S GIFT TO US.
  • 00:31:17.030 --> 00:31:18.180
  • WHAT WE DO WITH IT IS OUR GIFT BACK TO GOD.
  • 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.120
  • SO I THINK WHAT GRIEVES THE HEART OF THE HEAVENLY
  • 00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:23.290
  • FATHER IS WHEN WE DON'T EXERCISE THAT POTENTIAL,
  • 00:31:24.010 --> 00:31:27.230
  • WHEN WE DON'T GO AFTER THAT DREAM.
  • 00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:30.060
  • SO AGAIN, DREAMING IS A PART OF THE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:34.010
  • GROWTH PROCESS. NOTHING WILL KEEP YOU ON YOUR KNEES
  • 00:31:34.030 --> 00:31:37.260
  • IN DEPENDENCE ON GOD LIKE A DREAM THAT'S
  • 00:31:37.280 --> 00:31:40.190
  • BIGGER THAN YOU ARE.
  • 00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:43.150
  • - WOW. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT NO JOKE,
  • 00:31:43.170 --> 00:31:47.210
  • I READ EVERY WORD OF YOUR BOOK.
  • 00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.280
  • CHASE THE LION, READ THE WHOLE THING.
  • 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.070
  • TOLD HER ABOUT IT, IT TOOK A FEW DAYS FOR ME TO
  • 00:31:52.090 --> 00:31:56.060
  • BECAUSE I WAS READING IT MAINLY JUST AT NIGHT,
  • 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:58.190
  • AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING,
  • 00:31:58.210 --> 00:32:01.290
  • IT'S THE TYPE OF BOOK THAT YOU WANT TO GET AND
  • 00:32:02.010 --> 00:32:08.070
  • START THROWING AROUND AND GET COPIES FOR OTHER
  • 00:32:08.090 --> 00:32:10.260
  • PEOPLE. I TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE, GET IT.
  • 00:32:10.280 --> 00:32:13.220
  • I TOLD SOME OF OUR KEY STAFF.
  • 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.030
  • I CAME INTO A STAFF MEETING, BY THE WAY BOB,
  • 00:32:16.050 --> 00:32:18.280
  • I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING,
  • 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.060
  • I JUST SHOWED UP THAT DAY,
  • 00:32:20.080 --> 00:32:22.010
  • AND THERE WAS ALL THE KEY STAFF OF TBN,
  • 00:32:22.030 --> 00:32:23.280
  • MAYBE 25 OR 35 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND I SAID
  • 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.130
  • EVERYONE GO GET CHASE THE LION, READ IT.
  • 00:32:26.150 --> 00:32:29.130
  • THERE'S GONNA BE A TEST LATER.
  • 00:32:29.150 --> 00:32:31.210
  • SO THE IDEA THAT YOU WANT THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU TO
  • 00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:35.270
  • BE FIRED UP TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING GREAT.
  • 00:32:35.290 --> 00:32:39.100
  • SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS--
  • 00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:42.170
  • IT'S NOT A SELF-HELP BOOK. IT IS LITERALLY SOMETHING
  • 00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:46.130
  • THAT INSPIRES YOU TO DO SOMETHING.
  • 00:32:46.150 --> 00:32:50.220
  • - LET'S GO BACK TO SO YOU CAME TO WASHINGTON DC.
  • 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.250
  • DID YOU START THE COFFEE SHOP RIGHT AWAY?
  • 00:32:54.270 --> 00:32:56.170
  • - NO. NO.
  • 00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:58.110
  • - SO YOU STARTED THE CHURCH?
  • 00:32:58.130 --> 00:33:00.030
  • - YES.
  • 00:33:00.050 --> 00:33:01.270
  • SO WE STARTED WITH A CORE GROUP OF 19 PEOPLE IN A
  • 00:33:01.290 --> 00:33:05.170
  • DC PUBLIC SCHOOL, AND IT WAS NOT A GLAMOROUS
  • 00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:11.030
  • BEGINNING BY ANY STRETCH.
  • 00:33:11.050 --> 00:33:13.020
  • IN FACT, I HAD TO LEAD WORSHIP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T
  • 00:33:13.040 --> 00:33:15.270
  • HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TO DO IT.
  • 00:33:15.290 --> 00:33:17.070
  • I'M NOT GONNA SING. I AM NOT GONNA SING.
  • 00:33:17.090 --> 00:33:20.230
  • - WE HAVE VIDEO OF YOU SINGING SO.
  • 00:33:20.250 --> 00:33:24.040
  • WE'VE ALREADY FOUND THAT. IT'S ON YOUTUBE.
  • 00:33:24.060 --> 00:33:28.030
  • - BY THE WAY, THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED TO CLOSE
  • 00:33:28.050 --> 00:33:29.230
  • MY EYES AND WORSHIP IS BECAUSE IT WAS TOO
  • 00:33:29.250 --> 00:33:31.150
  • DEPRESSING TO OPEN THEM, SO YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT A
  • 00:33:31.170 --> 00:33:35.220
  • CHURCH THAT-WE DIDN'T HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE AT
  • 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.220
  • THE END OF OUR FIRST YEAR,
  • 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.000
  • TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE THE END OF OUR SECOND YEAR
  • 00:33:39.020 --> 00:33:40.210
  • AND EXPERTS WOULD SAY WELL YOU'LL NEVER BE A
  • 00:33:40.230 --> 00:33:42.120
  • HUNDRED OR TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE.
  • 00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:44.160
  • I THINK SOMETIMES GOD, AND I LOVE EXPERTS BUT
  • 00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:47.010
  • SOMETIMES GOD LOVES PROVING THE EXPERTS WRONG.
  • 00:33:47.030 --> 00:33:50.130
  • AND IT TOOK US FIVE YEARS BUT CAN
  • 00:33:50.150 --> 00:33:52.230
  • I TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:53.260
  • - YES.
  • 00:33:53.280 --> 00:33:55.040
  • - BECAUSE IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE THEN I
  • 00:33:55.060 --> 00:33:56.240
  • CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR IT. WE DID WHAT WE DID.
  • 00:33:56.260 --> 00:33:59.290
  • NO ONE KNEW ABOUT US.
  • 00:34:00.030 --> 00:34:02.120
  • BUT ONE DAY THE WASHINGTON POST SAID THEY
  • 00:34:02.140 --> 00:34:04.200
  • WANTED TO INTERVIEW ME BECAUSE OUR CONGREGATION
  • 00:34:04.220 --> 00:34:07.020
  • IS SO YOUNG AND WE'RE STILL 50 PERCENT SINGLE
  • 00:34:07.040 --> 00:34:09.150
  • TWENTY SOMETHING'S.
  • 00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:11.170
  • AND THEY SAID HOPEFULLY IT WILL MAKE THE RELIGION
  • 00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:13.120
  • SECTION AND SO I SHOW UP TO CHURCH,
  • 00:34:13.140 --> 00:34:17.040
  • WE WERE MEETING IN A MOVIE THEATER AT UNION
  • 00:34:17.060 --> 00:34:18.220
  • STATION, AND I GET A SUNDAY WASHINGTON POST,
  • 00:34:18.240 --> 00:34:22.270
  • AND I GO TO THE RELIGION SECTION AND I'M ALL
  • 00:34:22.290 --> 00:34:24.180
  • EXCITED. HOPEFULLY WE MADE THE NEWS.
  • 00:34:24.200 --> 00:34:27.210
  • AND WE'RE NOT IN THERE.
  • 00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:29.020
  • AND I'M SO DISAPPOINTED.
  • 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:31.060
  • SO I FOLD IT UP, PUT IT BACK ON THE NEWSSTAND
  • 00:34:31.080 --> 00:34:33.190
  • BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT IN IT, I'M NOT GONNA BUY IT.
  • 00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:35.110
  • IT'S A BUCK TWENTY FIVE.
  • 00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:37.220
  • NOT ON A CHURCH PLANTER'S BUDGET.
  • 00:34:37.240 --> 00:34:39.250
  • WE'RE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WASHINGTON POST
  • 00:34:39.270 --> 00:34:44.290
  • SUNDAY EDITION. AND THAT WAS THE CATALYST.
  • 00:34:45.010 --> 00:34:49.130
  • AND WE DOUBLE IN SIZE THAT NEXT YEAR.
  • 00:34:49.150 --> 00:34:53.060
  • IT WAS LIKE GOD SAID I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE MAP.
  • 00:34:53.080 --> 00:34:55.230
  • HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE.
  • 00:34:55.250 --> 00:34:57.080
  • I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU KEEP DOING THE RIGHT
  • 00:34:57.100 --> 00:35:00.030
  • THING DAY IN AND DAY OUT, GOD IS EVENTUALLY GONNA
  • 00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:04.050
  • SHOW UP AND SHOW OFF. I BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.280
  • SO THAT'S WHAT GOD DID.
  • 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.170
  • THEN WE'RE KIND OF OFF TO THE RACES,
  • 00:35:09.190 --> 00:35:11.260
  • AND HE GAVE US THIS MULTI-SITE VISION,
  • 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.150
  • SO HERE WE ARE ABOUT 20 YEARS IN AND EIGHT
  • 00:35:14.170 --> 00:35:20.040
  • CAMPUSES AROUND THE DC AREA,
  • 00:35:20.060 --> 00:35:22.170
  • BUT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, LIKE YOU GUYS,
  • 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:25.100
  • IT STARTS WITH THAT MOMENT,
  • 00:35:25.120 --> 00:35:27.160
  • AM I GONNA RUN AWAY FROM THIS THING 'CAUSE THIS IS
  • 00:35:27.180 --> 00:35:30.100
  • SCARY OR AM I GONNA RUN TO THE ROAR?
  • 00:35:30.120 --> 00:35:33.230
  • AND WE DECIDED HEY, LET'S RUN TO THE ROAR,
  • 00:35:33.250 --> 00:35:36.270
  • LET'S GIVE THIS CHURCH PLANTING THING A SECOND
  • 00:35:36.290 --> 00:35:39.100
  • CHANCE AND SEE WHAT GOD CAN DO.
  • 00:35:39.120 --> 00:35:41.220
  • - THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A DREAM,
  • 00:35:41.240 --> 00:35:45.190
  • BUT THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES
  • 00:35:45.210 --> 00:35:48.080
  • JUST TO BE PERFECT, THEY'RE GONNA GET
  • 00:35:48.100 --> 00:35:49.230
  • FUNDING OVER HERE, AND--
  • 00:35:49.250 --> 00:35:51.290
  • - IT NEVER HAPPENS, BY THE WAY.
  • 00:35:52.010 --> 00:35:53.070
  • - YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT EVER HAPPENS.
  • 00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:56.220
  • SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU GOT IN THERE--
  • 00:35:56.240 --> 00:35:58.170
  • - YES, OH, LAURIE, THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:35:58.190 --> 00:36:03.170
  • THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE. TWO THOUGHTS.
  • 00:36:03.190 --> 00:36:06.240
  • ONE, FAITH IS TAKING THE FIRST STEP BEFORE GOD
  • 00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:09.280
  • REVEALS THE SECOND STEP.
  • 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.170
  • SO LET'S TAKE THAT FIRST STEP.
  • 00:36:12.190 --> 00:36:15.080
  • THEN WE HAVE A LITTLE SAYING AROUND NCC,
  • 00:36:15.100 --> 00:36:19.160
  • GO, SET, READY.
  • 00:36:19.180 --> 00:36:20.200
  • IT'S NOT READY, SET, GO.
  • 00:36:20.220 --> 00:36:22.120
  • YOU'LL NEVER BE READY.
  • 00:36:22.140 --> 00:36:25.210
  • I WASN'T READY TO GET MARRIED, WERE YOU GUYS?
  • 00:36:25.230 --> 00:36:29.040
  • NO, YOU'RE NOT READY TO GET MARRIED.
  • 00:36:29.060 --> 00:36:32.050
  • YOU'RE NOT READY TO HAVE CHILDREN.
  • 00:36:32.070 --> 00:36:34.150
  • WHO IS READY TO BE A PARENT?
  • 00:36:34.170 --> 00:36:35.270
  • I WASN'T READY TO PASTOR A CHURCH,
  • 00:36:35.290 --> 00:36:37.100
  • WE WEREN'T READY TO LAUNCH ANOTHER CAMPUS,
  • 00:36:37.120 --> 00:36:38.280
  • I'VE NEVER BEEN READY TO DO ANYTHING GOD'S CALLED
  • 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.080
  • ME TO DO, BUT GOD DOESN'T CALL THE QUALIFIED,
  • 00:36:41.100 --> 00:36:44.120
  • HE QUALIFIES THE CALLED.
  • 00:36:44.140 --> 00:36:46.240
  • AND WHEN HE SAYS GO, I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT TO
  • 00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:50.270
  • TAKE THAT FIRST STEP OF FAITH.
  • 00:36:50.290 --> 00:36:52.290
  • YOU NEED TO PRAY ABOUT IT, DO YOUR HOMEWORK,
  • 00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:55.200
  • DO YOUR RESEARCH, BUT THERE'S GOT TO COME A
  • 00:36:55.220 --> 00:36:58.250
  • MOMENT IN TIME WHERE YOU CHASE THAT LION.
  • 00:36:58.270 --> 00:37:01.220
  • SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
  • 00:37:01.240 --> 00:37:04.150
  • - IN A MINUTE, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:07.110
  • WE'RE IN WASHINGTON DC.
  • 00:37:07.130 --> 00:37:09.130
  • THE SHOT OVER YOUR SHOULDER IS STUNNING AND
  • 00:37:09.150 --> 00:37:13.110
  • THANK YOU TO THIS.
  • 00:37:13.130 --> 00:37:14.280
  • - CAN WE BUY THIS?
  • 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.210
  • - NO. THAT WOULD BE CHASING A LION TO GET THE
  • 00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:19.170
  • FUNDS TO BUY THIS STUDIO.
  • 00:37:19.190 --> 00:37:21.220
  • THIS, LET ME JUST SAY THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE REALLY
  • 00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:28.290
  • TALKING ABOUT IS AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:37:29.010 --> 00:37:32.050
  • AND I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON A PRETTY IMPORTANT
  • 00:37:32.070 --> 00:37:35.160
  • SUBJECT BECAUSE THE READY SET GO THING OR GO SET
  • 00:37:35.180 --> 00:37:41.190
  • READY IS A MUCH BETTER THING BECAUSE IF WE
  • 00:37:41.210 --> 00:37:45.210
  • KIND OF CIRCLE BACK INTO OUR LIVES,
  • 00:37:45.230 --> 00:37:49.090
  • WE MADE A MOVIE BACK IN 1999 CALLED THE OMEGA
  • 00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:54.060
  • CODE, AND YOU TALK ABOUT NOT BEING READY
  • 00:37:54.080 --> 00:37:59.040
  • TO RELEASE A MOVIE.
  • 00:37:59.060 --> 00:38:01.270
  • MOVIES, FIRST OF ALL, ARE NEVER DONE.
  • 00:38:01.290 --> 00:38:05.100
  • YOU JUST STOP WORKING ON THEM AND THEN THEY GET
  • 00:38:05.120 --> 00:38:08.050
  • RELEASED. THEY'RE NEVER DONE.
  • 00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:10.080
  • AND NOTHING IS EVER RIGHT.
  • 00:38:10.100 --> 00:38:13.010
  • YOU START WITH THIS REAL PURE VISION THAT
  • 00:38:13.030 --> 00:38:15.080
  • A MOVIE IS GONNA BE.
  • 00:38:15.100 --> 00:38:16.270
  • YOU HAVE YOUR ACTOR PICKED OUT FOR BENAIAH,
  • 00:38:16.290 --> 00:38:20.030
  • AND YOU HAVE THE LION, AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS
  • 00:38:20.050 --> 00:38:23.230
  • PERFECT KIND OF THINGS IN YOUR MIND,
  • 00:38:23.250 --> 00:38:26.100
  • AND THEN THREE HUNDRED COMPROMISES LATER,
  • 00:38:26.120 --> 00:38:29.140
  • YOUR MOVIE IS DONE AND GOING INTO THEATERS
  • 00:38:29.160 --> 00:38:31.110
  • BECAUSE YOU HAVE THREE HUNDRED CREATIVE PEOPLE
  • 00:38:31.130 --> 00:38:34.160
  • WORKING ON IT, YOU HAVE TO SHARE THAT VISION.
  • 00:38:34.180 --> 00:38:36.140
  • BUT ULTIMATELY, I REMEMBER THE IDEA THAT IT
  • 00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:40.150
  • WAS-WE WERE GETTING READY TO LOCK PICTURE ON OMEGA
  • 00:38:40.170 --> 00:38:43.250
  • CODE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD AN ACADEMY AWARD
  • 00:38:43.270 --> 00:38:50.070
  • WINNING EDITOR NAMED PETER ZINNER.
  • 00:38:50.090 --> 00:38:53.020
  • THE ONLY REASON WE COULD AFFORD HIM IS BECAUSE HE
  • 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:56.030
  • SAID I'M GONNA USE THIS TO TRAIN MY DAUGHTER.
  • 00:38:56.050 --> 00:38:59.120
  • NOW I'M GONNA BE IN THERE,
  • 00:38:59.140 --> 00:39:01.020
  • BUT THE DAUGHTER IS GONNA BE TRAINED DURING THIS,
  • 00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:04.080
  • AND IF YOU LET ME TRAIN MY DAUGHTER ON YOUR
  • 00:39:04.100 --> 00:39:06.140
  • MOVIE, THEN YOU CAN AFFORD ME.
  • 00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:09.180
  • AND I SAID DONE.
  • 00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:12.210
  • SO PETER LOOKED AT ME A WEEK BEFORE WE WERE
  • 00:39:12.230 --> 00:39:17.040
  • SUPPOSED TO LOCK PICTURE, MEANING YOU'RE DONE,
  • 00:39:17.060 --> 00:39:20.080
  • NO MORE MUSIC CHANGES, NO MORE EVERYTHING,
  • 00:39:20.100 --> 00:39:21.290
  • YOU'RE LOCKING PICTURE.
  • 00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:23.150
  • AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID I'M GONNA GIVE
  • 00:39:23.170 --> 00:39:26.260
  • YOU TWO CHOICES WITH THIS MOVIE.
  • 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.230
  • IT'S EITHER GONNA BE LONG AND BORING AND AT LEAST
  • 00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:33.160
  • UNDERSTANDABLE OR IT'S GONNA BE SHORT,
  • 00:39:33.180 --> 00:39:36.210
  • CHOPPY AND HARD TO UNDERSTAND BUT IT WILL BE
  • 00:39:36.230 --> 00:39:39.150
  • BETTER. AND I WENT WELL THANKS A LOT MISTER
  • 00:39:39.170 --> 00:39:43.180
  • ACADEMY AWARD WINNER FOR THE DEAR HUNTER,
  • 00:39:43.200 --> 00:39:47.000
  • FOR ONE OF THE GODFATHER PICTURES,
  • 00:39:47.020 --> 00:39:49.050
  • SO THIS GUY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
  • 00:39:49.070 --> 00:39:51.170
  • AND I SAID WELL, THE WORST NIGHTMARE OF A
  • 00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:56.100
  • PRODUCER IS LONG AND BORING,
  • 00:39:56.120 --> 00:39:59.000
  • SO DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO IT.
  • 00:39:59.020 --> 00:40:01.200
  • SO I COULD HAVE CRAWLED INTO A FETAL POSITION.
  • 00:40:01.220 --> 00:40:05.110
  • - WHICH I DID.
  • 00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:07.010
  • - AND SAID THIS PICTURE IS NOT WORTH RELEASING.
  • 00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:11.250
  • AND WE SHOULD GIVE UP ON IT NOW.
  • 00:40:11.270 --> 00:40:15.140
  • BUT AFTER THAT POINT, NO JOKE,
  • 00:40:15.160 --> 00:40:18.290
  • IN FINAL MIX AFTER HEARING WHAT AN ACADEMY
  • 00:40:19.010 --> 00:40:22.020
  • AWARD WINNING GUY SAID ABOUT IT,
  • 00:40:22.040 --> 00:40:24.090
  • AND WE MADE SOME DRAMATIC AND UNBELIEVABLE CHANGES
  • 00:40:24.110 --> 00:40:28.290
  • TO THE PICTURE IN THE LAST WEEK, WE'RE FINAL
  • 00:40:29.010 --> 00:40:31.110
  • MIXING THE PICTURE AND RE-MORTGAGING OUR HOME.
  • 00:40:31.130 --> 00:40:34.100
  • - TO RELEASE IT.
  • 00:40:34.120 --> 00:40:36.050
  • - SO BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET MONEY TO PUT IT INTO
  • 00:40:36.070 --> 00:40:39.150
  • THEATERS BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR LION.
  • 00:40:39.170 --> 00:40:42.220
  • WE MORTGAGED OUR HOME AFTER KNOWING
  • 00:40:42.240 --> 00:40:46.220
  • IT WAS A TERRIBLE MOVIE.
  • 00:40:46.240 --> 00:40:48.210
  • - WOW!
  • 00:40:48.230 --> 00:40:50.110
  • - I REMEMBER CAYLAN SAYING,
  • 00:40:50.130 --> 00:40:51.280
  • HE WAS PROBABLY TEN,
  • 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.030
  • I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW OLD HE WAS BUT.
  • 00:40:54.050 --> 00:40:55.210
  • - ABOUT TEN.
  • 00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:57.060
  • - HE SAID WHAT HAPPENS IF THE FILM DOESN'T DO WELL?
  • 00:40:57.080 --> 00:41:00.090
  • WE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW THAT SUBURBAN SITTING OUTSIDE?
  • 00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:03.000
  • - WE'RE GONNA BE LIVING IN THAT SUBURBAN.
  • 00:41:03.020 --> 00:41:05.100
  • - WE'LL JUST LIVE OUT OF THAT SUBURBAN.
  • 00:41:05.120 --> 00:41:07.030
  • - AND THE IDEA THAT WE LITERALLY,
  • 00:41:07.050 --> 00:41:11.170
  • NOT FIGURATIVELY, LITERALLY RE-MORTGAGED OUR
  • 00:41:11.190 --> 00:41:14.160
  • HOME TO GET EVERYTHING WE DID,
  • 00:41:14.180 --> 00:41:17.170
  • SO THEN THE MOVIE BECOMES A NUMBER ONE INDEPENDENT
  • 00:41:17.190 --> 00:41:20.170
  • FILM OF THE YEAR, IT'S NUMBER ONE IN A WHOLE
  • 00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:22.100
  • BUNCH OF CATEGORIES AND IT LITERALLY KIND OF
  • 00:41:22.120 --> 00:41:25.060
  • STARTED A THING, NOW THERE'S DOZENS OF
  • 00:41:25.080 --> 00:41:28.210
  • CHRISTIAN FILMS THAT GET MADE ALL THE TIME AND
  • 00:41:28.230 --> 00:41:32.050
  • WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT HAPPENING,
  • 00:41:32.070 --> 00:41:34.070
  • PASSION OF THE CHRIST REALLY SHOWED THE
  • 00:41:34.090 --> 00:41:35.210
  • SIZE OF THE SCALE--
  • 00:41:35.230 --> 00:41:37.030
  • - BUT THAT WAS GOD PUTTING HIS SUPER ON OUR NATURAL.
  • 00:41:37.050 --> 00:41:40.030
  • - YES. YES.
  • 00:41:40.050 --> 00:41:41.290
  • - BUT IT WAS A VERY SCARY,
  • 00:41:42.010 --> 00:41:45.070
  • VERY LION CHASING, 500 POUND LION EVENT,
  • 00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:49.030
  • WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR WIFE AND YOUR LITTLE
  • 00:41:49.050 --> 00:41:51.050
  • KIDS AND MORTGAGING YOUR HOME TO GET THE MONEY.
  • 00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:56.070
  • SO THE IDEA IS SCARY MOST OF THE TIME.
  • 00:41:56.090 --> 00:42:00.080
  • SO HOW DO WE GET PAST THAT MOST OF US GET PAST THAT?
  • 00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:03.120
  • - I THINK WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THAT
  • 00:42:03.140 --> 00:42:05.150
  • STORY IS THAT IT MODELS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
  • 00:42:05.170 --> 00:42:07.260
  • ONE IS THE FIRST BOOK I WROTE,
  • 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:11.050
  • IT'S NOT IN A PIT WITH A LION ON A SUNNY DAY.
  • 00:42:11.070 --> 00:42:15.020
  • IT'S A SNOWY DAY. BENAIAH DOESN'T WAIT
  • 00:42:15.040 --> 00:42:18.060
  • UNTIL THERE ARE PERFECT CONDITIONS.
  • 00:42:18.080 --> 00:42:20.260
  • ECCLESIASTICS 11 IS A WONDERFUL PRINCIPLE TO
  • 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:26.040
  • LIVE BY. IT SAYS HE WHO WATCHES THE CLOUDS
  • 00:42:26.060 --> 00:42:28.100
  • WILL NOT PLANT.
  • 00:42:28.120 --> 00:42:30.200
  • IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR PERFECT CONDITIONS,
  • 00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:32.170
  • YOU'RE GONNA BE WAITING THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:34.130
  • AND I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS MODELED WITH THAT IS
  • 00:42:34.150 --> 00:42:37.100
  • THERE COMES A MOMENT WHEN YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT
  • 00:42:37.120 --> 00:42:40.050
  • STEP OF FAITH. INACTION IS AN ACTION.
  • 00:42:40.070 --> 00:42:43.290
  • AND INDECISION IS A DECISION.
  • 00:42:44.010 --> 00:42:46.240
  • SO THERE COMES A MOMENT WHERE I THINK YOU NEED TO
  • 00:42:46.260 --> 00:42:48.160
  • TAKE A STEP OF FAITH.
  • 00:42:48.180 --> 00:42:50.090
  • AND THE OTHER THING I LOVED IS THAT, COME ON,
  • 00:42:50.110 --> 00:42:52.120
  • DREAMS HAVE A PRICE TAG, AND YOU HAD TO PERSONALLY
  • 00:42:52.140 --> 00:42:57.180
  • INVEST IN IT, AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD
  • 00:42:57.200 --> 00:42:59.110
  • CHALLENGE VIEWERS.
  • 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:01.090
  • OKAY, SO YOUR DREAM IS PERHAPS AN EDUCATION THAT
  • 00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:08.020
  • MIGHT OPEN A DOOR.
  • 00:43:08.040 --> 00:43:09.290
  • WELL IT MIGHT TAKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN
  • 00:43:10.010 --> 00:43:13.000
  • TUITION TO BEGIN TO PURSUE THAT DREAM,
  • 00:43:13.020 --> 00:43:16.100
  • BUT THINK OF IT AS INVESTING,
  • 00:43:16.120 --> 00:43:19.070
  • A DOWN PAYMENT ON THE DREAM THAT GOD'S GIVEN
  • 00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:21.050
  • YOU IN WHATEVER IT IS.
  • 00:43:21.070 --> 00:43:23.250
  • I'VE FOUND THAT LITTLE STEPS OF FINANCIAL FAITH
  • 00:43:23.270 --> 00:43:27.100
  • CAN BE A WAY THAT THEN GOD CAN ENTER THE
  • 00:43:27.120 --> 00:43:30.150
  • EQUATION AND BEGIN TO BLESS IT.
  • 00:43:30.170 --> 00:43:32.000
  • SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT STORY.
  • 00:43:32.020 --> 00:43:34.020
  • I THINK THAT'S AN ENCOURAGEMENT THAT I
  • 00:43:34.040 --> 00:43:36.180
  • THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT FOLKS LIKE
  • 00:43:36.200 --> 00:43:39.290
  • YOU AND THINK WELL IT MUST HAVE BEEN A SEAMLESS
  • 00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:42.130
  • PROCESS AND WITHOUT ITS HARDSHIPS,
  • 00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:45.050
  • BUT YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THERE ARE SACRIFICES THAT
  • 00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:49.010
  • WERE MADE AND RISKS THAT WERE TAKEN TO SEE THAT
  • 00:43:49.030 --> 00:43:54.210
  • DREAM BECOME REALITY, AND THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS.
  • 00:43:54.230 --> 00:43:57.070
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:58.260
  • - THE IDEA OF MORTGAGING YOUR HOME FOR A GOOD
  • 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.060
  • MOVIE WOULDN'T BE NEARLY AS BAD AS MORTGAGING
  • 00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:04.020
  • FOR A BAD MOVIE.
  • 00:44:04.040 --> 00:44:06.060
  • - YES, AND MATT I WONDER,
  • 00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:08.110
  • AND I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT BUT I WONDER IF
  • 00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:10.230
  • I COULD JUST--I THINK THIS IS A TIMELY WORD BECAUSE
  • 00:44:10.250 --> 00:44:13.210
  • I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE LITMUS TEST.
  • 00:44:13.230 --> 00:44:16.080
  • MY CONCERN IS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE MIGHT
  • 00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:18.230
  • HEAR US OR READ A BOOK AND THEN QUIT
  • 00:44:18.250 --> 00:44:21.200
  • THEIR JOB THE NEXT DAY.
  • 00:44:21.220 --> 00:44:23.140
  • AND LISTEN, YOU HAVE TO PRAY ABOUT IT,
  • 00:44:23.160 --> 00:44:26.130
  • YOU HAVE TO HAVE GODLY COUNCIL,
  • 00:44:26.150 --> 00:44:28.260
  • SO MY LITMUS TEST IS WHERE PETER IS IN THE
  • 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.270
  • BOAT IN THE SEA OF GALILEE, MIDDLE OF THE
  • 00:44:31.290 --> 00:44:33.200
  • NIGHT, AND I LOVE THINKING OF IT THIS WAY.
  • 00:44:33.220 --> 00:44:38.010
  • IF JESUS DOESN'T SAY COME,
  • 00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:43.140
  • IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD,
  • 00:44:43.160 --> 00:44:45.160
  • YOU BETTER STAY IN THAT BOAT.
  • 00:44:45.180 --> 00:44:48.080
  • BUT IF JESUS SAYS COME, YOU BETTER GET OUT OF
  • 00:44:48.100 --> 00:44:51.260
  • THAT BOAT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET OUT OF THE
  • 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.030
  • BOAT, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA WALK ON WATER.
  • 00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:55.230
  • SO IT'S ABOUT HEARING THE VOICE OF GOD.
  • 00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:58.060
  • AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANT VIEWERS TO HEAR,
  • 00:44:58.080 --> 00:45:00.230
  • THAT I HOPE YOU'RE ENCOURAGED,
  • 00:45:00.250 --> 00:45:03.010
  • I HOPE YOU'RE INSPIRED, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HEAR
  • 00:45:03.030 --> 00:45:06.040
  • FROM GOD BECAUSE HE'S THE DREAM GIVER
  • 00:45:06.060 --> 00:45:07.230
  • AND THAT'S KEY.
  • 00:45:07.250 --> 00:45:09.290
  • - IN A MINUTE, AS WE START GETTING TO THE END
  • 00:45:10.010 --> 00:45:13.230
  • OF THE PROGRAM HERE, I WANT YOU TO BE PREPARED
  • 00:45:13.250 --> 00:45:16.040
  • TO PRAY FOR OUR AUDIENCE, FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING.
  • 00:45:16.060 --> 00:45:18.140
  • I WANT MARK TO PRAY FOR YOU, FOR YOUR DREAM,
  • 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:22.080
  • FOR WHATEVER LION YOU'RE CHASING.
  • 00:45:22.100 --> 00:45:24.050
  • I HAVE ONE MORE-- GO TO THE 800 NUMBER AND
  • 00:45:24.070 --> 00:45:27.120
  • GET ALL OF MARK'S STUFF.
  • 00:45:27.140 --> 00:45:29.040
  • WE HAVE THE LION CHASER MANIFESTO AND WE HAVE
  • 00:45:29.060 --> 00:45:31.230
  • ALL SORTS OF STUFF.
  • 00:45:31.250 --> 00:45:33.220
  • 800 NUMBER IS AVAILABLE.
  • 00:45:33.240 --> 00:45:37.150
  • OKAY, MY DAD IS FROM MISSOURI,
  • 00:45:37.170 --> 00:45:42.180
  • YOU HAVE ROOTS INTO MISSOURI,
  • 00:45:42.200 --> 00:45:46.080
  • AND MY DAD TELLS THE STORY JOKINGLY,
  • 00:45:46.100 --> 00:45:50.190
  • WOULD TELL THE STORY ABOUT THE OLD FARMER
  • 00:45:50.210 --> 00:45:53.130
  • LOOKING UP IN THE SKY ON A BEAUTIFUL CLEAR DAY,
  • 00:45:53.150 --> 00:45:57.240
  • AND IN THE CLOUDS PERFECTLY FORMED IN THE
  • 00:45:57.260 --> 00:46:00.120
  • CLOUDS IS PC AND HE SAYS THAT'S IT, PREACH CHRIST.
  • 00:46:00.140 --> 00:46:05.130
  • THAT'S MY NEW CALLING.
  • 00:46:05.150 --> 00:46:06.250
  • I'M GONNA PUT DOWN THE-- AND THE VOICE COMES
  • 00:46:06.270 --> 00:46:09.170
  • OUT OF THE CLOUDS, NO, NO, NO, PLOW CORN, OKAY?
  • 00:46:09.190 --> 00:46:13.110
  • [LAUGHTER] SO THE IDEA THAT YOU BETTER HEAR THE
  • 00:46:13.130 --> 00:46:18.130
  • VOICE OF THE LORD, BUT WHEN YOU DO,
  • 00:46:18.150 --> 00:46:20.060
  • YOU BETTER JUMP INTO THAT PIT.
  • 00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:23.090
  • OKAY, SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY JUST GET
  • 00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:28.280
  • AFTER IT WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.170
  • DO, THEN YOU STOP LISTENING TO THE
  • 00:46:32.190 --> 00:46:34.280
  • NAYSAYERS, THEN YOU START PROVING PEOPLE
  • 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.160
  • WRONG, THEN YOU START-- WHEN YOU'VE HEARD.
  • 00:46:37.180 --> 00:46:40.170
  • IF ONE OF THE OTHER DISCIPLES WAS OUT THERE
  • 00:46:40.190 --> 00:46:43.140
  • GOING HEY PETER, WHY DON'T YOU GO OUT ON THE--
  • 00:46:43.160 --> 00:46:45.070
  • YEAH, NO.
  • 00:46:45.090 --> 00:46:47.140
  • SO MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND THEN DON'T GET
  • 00:46:47.160 --> 00:46:54.040
  • OFF THIS SET WITHOUT SAYING TO OUR AUDIENCE
  • 00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:58.070
  • THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT CHASE THE LION AND
  • 00:46:58.090 --> 00:47:00.150
  • WHAT YOU FEEL IS GONNA REALLY HELP THEM.
  • 00:47:00.170 --> 00:47:03.060
  • SO JUST SPEAK TO THIS PREACH CHRIST OR PLOW
  • 00:47:03.080 --> 00:47:06.210
  • CORN THING FOR A MOMENT AND THEN WRAP THIS UP AND
  • 00:47:06.230 --> 00:47:11.210
  • PRAY FOR THE AUDIENCE FOR US IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SIR.
  • 00:47:11.230 --> 00:47:15.130
  • - WELL, MATT, YOU KNOW THAT CHASE THE LION IS
  • 00:47:15.150 --> 00:47:17.270
  • NOT JUST ABOUT BENAIAH BUT ALL OF DAVID'S MIGHTY
  • 00:47:17.290 --> 00:47:20.090
  • MEN, AND ONE OF THEM, AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY
  • 00:47:20.110 --> 00:47:22.270
  • FAVORITE VERSES, IT SAYS THAT HE FOUGHT UNTIL HIS
  • 00:47:22.290 --> 00:47:26.220
  • HAND FROZE TO THE SWORD.
  • 00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:29.110
  • WOW!
  • 00:47:29.130 --> 00:47:32.290
  • YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT FOR YOUR DREAM.
  • 00:47:33.010 --> 00:47:37.210
  • THERE ARE GONNA BE RISKS AND SACRIFICES.
  • 00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:40.040
  • IT'S GONNA BE HARDER THAN YOU THINK,
  • 00:47:40.060 --> 00:47:42.150
  • AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE LONGER THAN YOU
  • 00:47:42.170 --> 00:47:44.230
  • THINK, BUT GOD'S GONNA HONOR THAT AND HE'S GONNA
  • 00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:49.040
  • THEN USE THAT IN A WAY TO BRING HIMSELF GLORY.
  • 00:47:49.060 --> 00:47:52.140
  • SO I THINK IT'S EDISON WHO SAYS THAT SUCCESS IS
  • 00:47:52.160 --> 00:47:56.080
  • TEN PERCENT INSPIRATION, NINETY PERCENT PERSPIRATION.
  • 00:47:56.100 --> 00:48:00.090
  • I BELIEVE THAT LOVING GOD WITH ALL OF YOUR
  • 00:48:00.110 --> 00:48:03.050
  • STRENGTH, I'M SORRY BUT I JUST INTERPRET IT
  • 00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:06.190
  • LITERALLY. IT'S LEVERAGING SWEAT EQUITY.
  • 00:48:06.210 --> 00:48:11.060
  • IT'S BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS.
  • 00:48:11.080 --> 00:48:15.190
  • SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR,
  • 00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:18.240
  • BUT IT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU NEED TO HEAR,
  • 00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:21.180
  • AND I THINK MY FINAL EXHORTATION IS QUIT
  • 00:48:21.200 --> 00:48:24.190
  • LIVING AS IF THE PURPOSE OF LIFE IS TO ARRIVE
  • 00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:26.220
  • SAFELY AT DEATH. RUN TO THE ROAR.
  • 00:48:26.240 --> 00:48:30.130
  • YOU KNOW THAT GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO MORE THAN
  • 00:48:30.150 --> 00:48:34.090
  • JUST HOLDING THE FORT.
  • 00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:37.060
  • HE HAS CALLED US AS A PART OF HIS KINGDOM TO
  • 00:48:37.080 --> 00:48:41.200
  • ADVANCE AGAINST THE GATES OF HELL ITSELF AND TO
  • 00:48:41.220 --> 00:48:46.000
  • PLAY OFFENSE WITH OUR LIVES,
  • 00:48:46.020 --> 00:48:47.270
  • TO PLAY OFFENSE FOR HIS KINGDOM.
  • 00:48:47.290 --> 00:48:50.250
  • AND JESUS DIDN'T DIE JUST TO KEEP US SAFE.
  • 00:48:50.270 --> 00:48:53.240
  • HE DIED TO MAKE US DANGEROUS. SO WITH THAT
  • 00:48:53.260 --> 00:48:56.210
  • THOUGHT, LET ME PRAY FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:48:56.230 --> 00:49:00.250
  • FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR EACH PERSON LISTENING,
  • 00:49:00.270 --> 00:49:04.190
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT YOUR SPIRIT IS STIRRING THEIR
  • 00:49:04.210 --> 00:49:09.020
  • SPIRIT AND THAT THERE'S GONNA COME A MOMENT WHEN
  • 00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:12.100
  • GOD, YOU'RE GONNA BEGIN TO REVEAL TO THEM THAT THING
  • 00:49:12.120 --> 00:49:15.160
  • THAT YOU'VE CALLED THEM TO PURSUE.
  • 00:49:15.180 --> 00:49:17.290
  • NOW LORD, I PRAY FOR THOSE WHO WOULD SAY BUT
  • 00:49:18.010 --> 00:49:20.110
  • I DON'T HAVE A DREAM.
  • 00:49:20.130 --> 00:49:22.150
  • WELL, THEN LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD SHOW THEM
  • 00:49:22.170 --> 00:49:25.160
  • SOMEONE WITH A DREAM THAT THEY CAN SERVE,
  • 00:49:25.180 --> 00:49:27.290
  • THAT THEY CAN GET AROUND THAT DREAM,
  • 00:49:28.010 --> 00:49:30.060
  • AND GOD I BELIEVE THEN YOU'RE GONNA USE THAT TO
  • 00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:32.130
  • BEGIN TO CONCEIVE IN THEM DREAMS THAT YOU HAVE
  • 00:49:32.150 --> 00:49:36.160
  • FOR THEIR LIVES.
  • 00:49:36.180 --> 00:49:38.150
  • LORD, FOR THE ONE THAT'S DISCOURAGED TODAY,
  • 00:49:38.170 --> 00:49:41.090
  • FOR THE ONE THAT FEELS LIKE THAT DREAM HAS DIED,
  • 00:49:41.110 --> 00:49:45.010
  • LORD I JUST WANT TO PRAY FAITH TO BELIEVE THAT YOU
  • 00:49:45.030 --> 00:49:48.150
  • CAN RESURRECT IT IN YOUR TIME AND IN YOUR WAY AND
  • 00:49:48.170 --> 00:49:52.190
  • THAT GOD, THAT DREAM IS GONNA BECOME REALITY.
  • 00:49:52.210 --> 00:49:56.290
  • GIVE US THE COURAGE THAT WE NEED TO CHASE THOSE
  • 00:49:57.010 --> 00:50:00.060
  • 500 POUND LIONS SO THAT WE CAN BRING GLORY
  • 00:50:00.080 --> 00:50:03.100
  • TO YOUR NAME.
  • 00:50:03.120 --> 00:50:05.140
  • MAY YOUR KINGDOM COME, MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE ON
  • 00:50:05.160 --> 00:50:08.240
  • EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:50:08.260 --> 00:50:14.040
  • - AMEN. WOW.
  • 00:50:14.060 --> 00:50:16.080
  • MARK BATTERSON HAS BEEN OUR GUEST ALL HOUR LONG
  • 00:50:16.100 --> 00:50:19.060
  • RIGHT HERE IN THE SHADOW OF--
  • 00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:21.190
  • - I'VE ALWAYS WANTED THIS.
  • 00:50:21.210 --> 00:50:23.150
  • - --CAPITOL BUILDING HERE IN WASHINGTON DC.
  • 00:50:23.170 --> 00:50:26.160
  • A BEAUTIFUL KIND OF LATE MORNING HERE IN THE
  • 00:50:26.180 --> 00:50:31.010
  • NATION'S CAPITAL.
  • 00:50:31.030 --> 00:50:33.050
  • NOW, THE 800 NUMBER IS AVAILABLE.
  • 00:50:33.070 --> 00:50:37.230
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU IS A LION
  • 00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:42.080
  • CHASING MANIFESTO, THE LION CHASER'S MANIFESTO.
  • 00:50:42.100 --> 00:50:46.070
  • THIS IS LIKE WE SHOULD GET A FRAME AND PUT THIS
  • 00:50:46.090 --> 00:50:51.020
  • IN IT OR TAPE THIS UP TO YOUR MIRROR.
  • 00:50:51.040 --> 00:50:53.210
  • THIS IS REALLY YOUR THING.
  • 00:50:53.230 --> 00:50:57.040
  • THIS IS SOMETHING-YOU'RE WANTING TO CREATE A
  • 00:50:57.060 --> 00:50:59.210
  • GENERATION OF WORLD CHANGERS.
  • 00:50:59.230 --> 00:51:02.190
  • THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
  • 00:51:02.210 --> 00:51:04.080
  • YOU'VE KIND OF GOT THE CLARK KENT KIND OF
  • 00:51:04.100 --> 00:51:06.080
  • PERSONALITY, BUT YOU PROBABLY GET,
  • 00:51:06.100 --> 00:51:10.250
  • YOU'D MIX IT UP PRETTY GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO
  • 00:51:10.270 --> 00:51:12.200
  • YOUR VISION.
  • 00:51:12.220 --> 00:51:14.120
  • THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT JOKING ABOUT
  • 00:51:14.140 --> 00:51:17.170
  • OKAY. PART OF THIS IS SET GOD SIZE GOALS,
  • 00:51:17.190 --> 00:51:22.060
  • PURSUE GOD GIVEN PASSIONS, DARE TO FAIL,
  • 00:51:22.080 --> 00:51:25.150
  • QUIT HOLDING OUT, QUIT HOLDING BACK,
  • 00:51:25.170 --> 00:51:28.070
  • QUIT RUNNING AWAY, CHASE THE LION.
  • 00:51:28.090 --> 00:51:29.280
  • THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE
  • 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.220
  • IN A LOCKER ROOM AND A BUNCH OF FOOTBALL PLAYERS
  • 00:51:34.240 --> 00:51:37.020
  • SCREAMING INTO EACH OTHER'S FACES.
  • 00:51:37.040 --> 00:51:39.050
  • - AND IT IS. IT'S IN A LOT OF LOCKER ROOMS.
  • 00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:42.250
  • YES. AND CLASSROOMS AND SOME BOARD ROOMS TOO.
  • 00:51:42.270 --> 00:51:45.290
  • - AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT EVEN
  • 00:51:46.010 --> 00:51:47.230
  • YOUR PERSONALITY, YOU'RE A SWEET GUY.
  • 00:51:47.250 --> 00:51:50.150
  • YOU SMILE A LOT.
  • 00:51:50.170 --> 00:51:51.230
  • YOU KIND OF HAVE THE CLARK KENT GLASSES.
  • 00:51:51.250 --> 00:51:53.220
  • BUT IF I REACHED OVER AND TORE YOUR SHIRT OPEN,
  • 00:51:53.240 --> 00:51:56.260
  • I THINK THERE'S AN "S" UNDER THERE,
  • 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.160
  • WHICH I'M NOT GONNA DO.
  • 00:51:58.180 --> 00:52:01.290
  • I'M REALLY NOT GONNA DO THAT.
  • 00:52:02.010 --> 00:52:04.280
  • FINAL THOUGHTS TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO SHAKE.
  • 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:12.170
  • BE SUPERMAN FOR JUST A MINUTE AND KIND OF START
  • 00:52:12.190 --> 00:52:17.010
  • YELLING IT INTO THEIR-- YOU DON'T HAVE TO LITERALLY
  • 00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:19.030
  • YELL IT INTO THEIR FACE, BUT THERE IS SOME THAT
  • 00:52:19.050 --> 00:52:24.050
  • NEED TO HEAR THE CHALLENGE THAT WILL
  • 00:52:24.070 --> 00:52:26.170
  • RESPOND ONLY TO A CHALLENGE,
  • 00:52:26.190 --> 00:52:28.250
  • AND THIS IS PART OF WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:52:28.270 --> 00:52:31.040
  • - YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:52:31.060 --> 00:52:32.250
  • - THIS MANIFESTO THING IS PRETTY INTENSE.
  • 00:52:32.270 --> 00:52:35.110
  • - YEAH, WELL I'M A PASTOR AT HEART,
  • 00:52:35.130 --> 00:52:39.030
  • AND I THINK THE EXHORTATION IS SIMPLE.
  • 00:52:39.050 --> 00:52:41.180
  • DON'T LET FEAR DICTATE YOUR DECISIONS.
  • 00:52:41.200 --> 00:52:45.160
  • GOD HAS NOT GIVEN US A SPIRIT OF FEAR BUT OF
  • 00:52:45.180 --> 00:52:49.070
  • LOVE, DISCIPLINE AND A SOUND MIND,
  • 00:52:49.090 --> 00:52:52.110
  • AND SO DON'T LET FEAR DICTATE YOUR DECISION.
  • 00:52:52.130 --> 00:52:55.090
  • LIVE BY FAITH. CHASE THAT LION.
  • 00:52:55.110 --> 00:52:57.120
  • RUN TO THE ROAR AND SEE WHAT GOD DOES.
  • 00:52:57.140 --> 00:53:00.040
  • - BEAUTIFUL. 800 NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:53:00.060 --> 00:53:02.010
  • LOTS OF MARK BATTERSON STUFF IS THERE AVAILABLE,
  • 00:53:02.030 --> 00:53:06.060
  • T.D. JAKES STUFF, IT'S A BIG GROUPING OF THINGS.
  • 00:53:06.080 --> 00:53:09.040
  • WHAT AN AMAZING TIME HERE IN OUR NATION'S CAPITAL.
  • 00:53:09.060 --> 00:53:13.070
  • THIS IS THE LION CHASER'S MANIFESTO.
  • 00:53:13.090 --> 00:53:17.140
  • A LOT OF MARK BATTERSON STUFF.
  • 00:53:17.160 --> 00:53:19.090
  • NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLING AUTHOR, CHASE THE LION.
  • 00:53:19.110 --> 00:53:21.170
  • IT'S ALL THERE. GO TO THE 800 NUMBER.
  • 00:53:21.190 --> 00:53:23.270
  • LAURIE CROUCH: THE FIRST BOOK, WAS THAT?
  • 00:53:23.290 --> 00:53:26.000
  • MARK: IT WAS IN A PIT WITH A LION ON A SNOWY DAY.
  • 00:53:26.020 --> 00:53:28.230
  • - HOW MANY YEARS AGO? TEN?
  • 00:53:28.250 --> 00:53:30.110
  • - TEN YEARS AGO.
  • 00:53:30.130 --> 00:53:31.210
  • - WOW, THEN CIRCLE MAKER MADE A HUGE--
  • 00:53:31.230 --> 00:53:34.060
  • IT WAS WONDERFUL.
  • 00:53:34.080 --> 00:53:35.190
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:53:35.210 --> 00:53:36.250
  • - GIVE US JUST A ONE TWO MINUTE THING
  • 00:53:36.270 --> 00:53:39.080
  • ON THE CIRCLE MAKER.
  • 00:53:39.100 --> 00:53:40.190
  • - I MEAN, A FUN LITTLE UPDATE IS WITH THE
  • 00:53:40.210 --> 00:53:43.020
  • CAPITOL IN THE BACKGROUND,
  • 00:53:43.040 --> 00:53:45.050
  • I HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SAY
  • 00:53:45.070 --> 00:53:49.190
  • HEY, WE'RE CIRCLING THE CAPITOL IN PRAYER,
  • 00:53:49.210 --> 00:53:51.200
  • WE'VE READ THE BOOK, AND I THINK PEOPLE
  • 00:53:51.220 --> 00:53:53.170
  • NEED TO KNOW THAT.
  • 00:53:53.190 --> 00:53:55.180
  • THAT LISTEN, THAT'S A BOOK THAT THE LORD KIND
  • 00:53:55.200 --> 00:53:59.220
  • OF PUT HIS HAND ON AND HAS USED WAY BEYOND WHAT
  • 00:53:59.240 --> 00:54:02.290
  • I WOULD HAVE EVER ANTICIPATED.
  • 00:54:03.010 --> 00:54:04.180
  • BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE CIRCLING A LOT OF THINGS
  • 00:54:04.200 --> 00:54:06.170
  • IN PRAYER AND SO IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN
  • 00:54:06.190 --> 00:54:10.190
  • OUR NATION'S CAPITAL.
  • 00:54:10.210 --> 00:54:12.040
  • FOR ME IT STARTED 20 YEARS AGO WITH A 4.7 MILE
  • 00:54:12.060 --> 00:54:15.270
  • PRAYER WALK, AND I THINK WHEN WE PRAY LIKE IT
  • 00:54:15.290 --> 00:54:20.180
  • DEPENDS ON GOD AND THEN WORK LIKE IT DEPENDS ON
  • 00:54:20.200 --> 00:54:23.080
  • US, YOU BETTER BUCKLE YOUR SEATBELT BECAUSE
  • 00:54:23.100 --> 00:54:26.180
  • SOME MIRACLES ARE GONNA HAPPEN.
  • 00:54:26.200 --> 00:54:28.100
  • - YOU KNOW GOD IS FAITHFUL,
  • 00:54:28.120 --> 00:54:30.010
  • AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO,
  • 00:54:30.030 --> 00:54:31.180
  • IF YOU DO IT IN FAITH, I JUST DON'T THINK YOU CAN
  • 00:54:31.200 --> 00:54:33.290
  • FAIL WHEN YOU WALK IN FAITH.
  • 00:54:34.010 --> 00:54:36.000
  • HOW WOULD GOD DROP YOU?
  • 00:54:36.020 --> 00:54:38.230
  • HOW COULD YOU FALL WHEN YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING IN
  • 00:54:38.250 --> 00:54:43.000
  • FAITH. GOD'S FAITHFUL.
  • 00:54:43.020 --> 00:54:44.160
  • GOD SEES YOUR DAY-TO-DAY.
  • 00:54:44.180 --> 00:54:46.170
  • GOD SEES YOUR MOVING FORWARD.
  • 00:54:46.190 --> 00:54:48.120
  • GOD SEES YOU WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE
  • 00:54:48.140 --> 00:54:51.090
  • ANYMORE AND WHEN YOU'RE PARALYZED.
  • 00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:53.140
  • I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY JUST KEEP MOVING
  • 00:54:53.160 --> 00:54:56.240
  • FORWARD. KEEP GOING WITH GOD.
  • 00:54:56.260 --> 00:54:59.030
  • AND WHEN YOU THINK I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO,
  • 00:54:59.050 --> 00:55:02.270
  • JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
  • 00:55:02.290 --> 00:55:04.240
  • KEEP GOING, KEEP PRESSING IN, AND I'M TELLING YOU
  • 00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:07.200
  • GOD'S GONNA MEET YOU WHERE YOU ARE TODAY.
  • 00:55:07.220 --> 00:55:10.030
  • AND I'M SO THRILLED YOU'VE BEEN WITH US.
  • 00:55:10.050 --> 00:55:11.290
  • THIS HAS JUST BEEN A DREAM OF MINE FOR A LONG
  • 00:55:12.010 --> 00:55:14.230
  • LONG TIME TO HAVE MARK BATTERSON HERE WITH US.
  • 00:55:14.250 --> 00:55:17.240
  • - YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP,
  • 00:55:17.260 --> 00:55:21.020
  • I THINK FOR OUR AUDIENCE, IF YOU GO TO THE WIDE
  • 00:55:21.040 --> 00:55:25.120
  • SHOT THERE, YOUR MOTORCADE IS COMING FOR
  • 00:55:25.140 --> 00:55:29.210
  • YOU. TIMING IS JUST RIGHT.
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  • - WELCOME TO OUR WORLD.
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  • - SO AS SOON AS THE LIMOUSINE GETS HERE,
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  • WE'LL LET YOU OFF THE SET AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO
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  • AHEAD AND GET UP BECAUSE IT WILL BE STOPPING HERE
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  • IN FRONT OF THE STUDIO.
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  • - WHEN YOU SEE THINGS LIKE THIS,
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  • DO YOU KNOW WHO IT IS?
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  • IS THERE FLAGS AND STUFF THAT YOU CAN KIND OF TELL?
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  • - WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF CODE.
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  • WHEN WE SEE HELICOPTERS, IF THERE'S TWO OF THEM,
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  • PROBABLY THE PRESIDENT, AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW
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  • MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT MOTORCADE,
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  • BUT WELCOME TO OUR WORLD. IT'S SO FUN.
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  • - THEY STOPPED. THEY'RE WAITING ON YOU.
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  • YOU'RE DISMISSED. GO GET IN YOUR MOTORCADE.
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  • GOD BLESS YOU, FRIEND.
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  • - BLESS YOU GUYS.
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