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January 9, 2017

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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Hillsong Conference 2016 with Erwin McManus and music by Hillsong Worship

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I LIFT MY HANDS TO HEAVEN
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HERE MY HEART SURRENDERED
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I TELL MY SOUL AGAIN YOU ARE
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LORD OF ALL
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- MATT CROUCH: THE "PRAISE THE
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LORD" PROGRAM CONTINUES.
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WE ARE HERE IN SYDNEY,
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AUSTRALIA,
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HILLSONG CONFERENCE.
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IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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YOU ARE IN CONTROL
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- ERWIN MCMANUS: AND HE'S
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WAITING FOR YOU AND FOR ME TO
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CALL ON HIM AS THE GOD THAT HE
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IS AND ASK BIG DREAMS AND BIG
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PRAYERS AND CALL FOR BIG
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VISIONS.
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- MATT: ERWIN MCMANUS,
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"ARTISAN SOUL."
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- LAURIE CROUCH: "ARTISAN
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SOUL."
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HE IS AMAZING!
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YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS
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I WILL TRUST IN ONLY YOU
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- ERWIN: IF WE GIVE GOD OUR
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EMPTY JARS WITH JUST THE
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SMALLEST AMOUNT OF OIL, AND THEN
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WE ASK HIM FOR GREAT THINGS, HE
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WILL SHOW UP AND BE THE GREAT
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...THE BEGINNING AND
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THE END...
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- ERWIN: WE ARE GOD'S STRATEGY
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TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF HUMAN
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...NO ONE...
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- MATT: INSIDE, ERWIN MCMANUS
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IS TAKING THE MAIN STAGE.
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WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, WE'RE
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GONNA SIT DOWN ON THE COUCH AND
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MINISTRY WITH ERWIN MCMANUS.
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- ERWIN: HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR
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CHALLENGES.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR FEARS.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DOUBTS.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOU!
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- MATT: THIS IS HILLSONG
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CONFERENCE.
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THERE IS NO ONE LIKE YOU,
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NO ONE
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NO ONE CAN ADD TO YOUR
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YOU'RE THE BEGINNING AND THE
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END,
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MORE THAN I CAN COMPREHEND
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THERE IS NO ONE LIKE YOU,
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JESUS
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I LIFT MY HANDS TO HEAVEN
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HERE MY HEART SURRENDERED
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I TELL MY SOUL AGAIN YOU ARE
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LORD OF ALL
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THOUGH THE SEAS ARE RAGING,
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YOU WILL SPEAK AND TAME THEM
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IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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YOU ARE IN CONTROL
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I LIFT MY HANDS TO HEAVEN
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HERE MY HEART SURRENDERED
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I TELL MY SOUL AGAIN YOU ARE
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LORD OF ALL
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THOUGH THE SEAS ARE RAGING,
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YOU WILL SPEAK AND TAME THEM
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IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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YOU ARE IN CONTROL
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IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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- ERWIN: WOW.
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IT IS SO, SO GOOD TO BE HERE
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WITH YOU GUYS.
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SO I'M FROM A SMALL COUNTRY IN
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CENTRAL AMERICA CALLED
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EL SALVADOR.
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AND IF YOU'RE AT ALL FAMILIAR
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WITH EL SALVADOR, YOU KNOW IT'S
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KIND OF AN INTENSE AND VIOLENT
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COUNTRY, AND SO I GREW UP
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INDOORS A LOT.
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AND MY GRANDPARENTS RAISED ME,
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SO I HAD MY GRANDFATHER TEACHING
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ME HIS VERSION OF SPORTS, WHICH
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WAS CHESS.
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AND SO FROM THE AGE OF AROUND 3
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OR 4 YEARS OLD, I WAS PLAYING
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CHESS EVERY DAY.
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AND MY GRANDFATHER IS INCREDIBLY
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COMPETITIVE, SO HE WOULD BEAT ME
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IN FIVE MOVES, SIX MOVES, SEVEN
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MOVES, AND I WOULD CRY.
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I WAS 5.
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AND I WOULD SAY TO MY
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GRANDFATHER IN SPANISH, "PAPPY,
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LET ME HAVE A MOVE."
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AND HE WOULD LOOK AT ME
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AND SAY, "WHEN YOU EARN A MOVE,
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YOU CAN HAVE A MOVE.
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CHECKMATE."
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[LAUGHTER]
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SO I SPENT THE NEXT SEVERAL
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YEARS OF MY LIFE EARNING
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EIGHT MOVES AND NINE MOVES AND
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TEN MOVES, BUT HE TAUGHT ME
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SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT IN LIFE.
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WHEN WE SAT DOWN IN THAT GAME OF
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WAR, I HAD ONE INTENTION, AND
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THAT WAS TO CAUSE HIS KING TO
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SURRENDER.
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AND EVERYTHING ELSE I DID, EVERY
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OTHER MOVE HAD TO SUBMIT TO THIS
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ONE INTENTION.
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I NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT I WANTED
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AND EITHER ORGANIZE EVERY
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DECISION I MADE TO ACCOMPLISH
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THAT GOAL.
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HAVE YOU EVER HAD PEOPLE ASK YOU
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STUPID QUESTIONS, AND THEN
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YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RESPOND AS IF
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IT WAS A INTELLIGENT QUESTION?
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I'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR OVER 30
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YEARS, AND IF YOU'VE BEEN
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MARRIED A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW
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THAT YOUR WIFE WILL ASK YOU A
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LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT SHE
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DOESN'T NEED TO ASK YOU, LIKE,
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"WHERE DID YOU PARK THE CAR?"
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I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE ASKS ME
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THAT.
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IF I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, WHY
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IS SHE ASKING ME?
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"WHERE DID YOU LOSE THE CAR
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KEYS?"
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I HATE THAT ONE TOO.
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[LAUGHTER]
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"WHY DID YOU BREAK IT?"
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WELL, I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT
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AHEAD OF TIME: "I'M GONNA BREAK
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THIS BEFORE I TRY TO FIX IT."
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[LAUGHTER]
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I LOVE THE GENERAL QUESTIONS SHE
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ASKS ME:
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"WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?"
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CLEARLY, NOTHING.
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AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE
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STUPID QUESTIONS I'VE BEEN ASKED
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IN MY LIFE--
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SO I WAS READING A MOMENT IN
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THE LIFE OF JESUS, AND HE ASKED
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THE QUESTION, AND I HAD
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THIS THOUGHT:
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"THAT'S THE STUPIDEST QUESTION
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I'VE EVER HEARD."
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BUT I TRIED TO STOP IT
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BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT JESUS TO
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HEAR ME SAY THAT.
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SO I DIDN'T SAY IT OUTSIDE.
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I SAID, "DON'T WRITE THAT DOWN.
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JUST THINK IT 'CAUSE THAT WAY,
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HE DOESN'T KNOW YOU'RE THINKIN'
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IT."
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BUT I HAD THIS MOMENT.
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I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE
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SCRIPTURES AND THOUGHT TO
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YOURSELF, "THAT'S STUPID."
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I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
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THINK THAT,
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BUT YOU DO THINK THAT.
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WELL, THERE'S A MOMENT IN THE
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LIFE OF JESUS, AND HE ASKS WHAT
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MIGHT BE THE STUPIDEST QUESTION
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EVER ASKED, EXCEPT, OF COURSE,
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JESUS ASKED IT, SO, LORD, I KNOW
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IT'S NOT STUPID.
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[LAUGHTER]
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IT'S IN MATTHEW CHAPTER 20,
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BEGINNING AT VERSE 29.
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IT SAYS, "AS JESUS AND HIS
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DISCIPLES WERE LEAVING JERICHO,
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A LARGE CROWD FOLLOWED HIM.
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TWO BLIND MEN WERE SITTING BY
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THE ROADSIDE, AND WHEN THEY
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HEARD THAT JESUS WAS GOING BY,
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THEY SHOUTED, 'LORD, SON OF
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DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!'
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THE CROWD REBUKED THEM AND TOLD
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THEM TO BE QUIET, BUT THEY
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SHOUTED ALL THE LOUDER, 'LORD,
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SON OF DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!'
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JESUS STOPPED AND CALLED THEM."
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AND HERE IT IS.
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HERE'S THE STUPIDEST QUESTION
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I'VE EVER HEARD: "WHAT DO YOU
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WANT ME TO DO FOR YOU?"
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I KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO SOUND
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PROFOUND AND SPIRITUAL, BUT
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REALLY, JESUS?
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THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD COME UP
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WITH?
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TWO BLIND GUYS ARE SCREAMING
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THEIR GUTS OUT, "LORD, SON OF
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DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!"
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AND YOU LOOK AT THEM, AND
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THEY'RE CLEARLY BLIND, AND YOU
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DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT?
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[LAUGHTER]
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I MEAN, JESUS, IF YOU'RE GOD,
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YOU KIND OF ALREADY KNOW THAT.
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AND EVEN IF YOU WERE NOT GOD,
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YOU COULD SORT OF INTUIT WHAT
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THEY WANTED.
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I THINK YOU COULD PICK IT UP.
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"JESUS STOPPED AND CALLED THEM.
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'WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR
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YOU?'
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HE ASKED.
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'LORD,' THEY ANSWERED, 'WE WANT
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OUR SIGHT.'"
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"OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU--
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I WOULD'VE NEVER KNOWN!"
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SO CLARIFYING!
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"'WE WANT OUR SIGHT.'
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JESUS HAD COMPASSION ON THEM
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AND TOUCHED THEIR EYES, AND
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IMMEDIATELY THEY RECEIVED
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THEIR SIGHT AND FOLLOWED HIM."
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AND I THINK WHEN WE READ THIS
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KIND OF ENCOUNTER FROM JESUS,
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WE'RE OVERWHELMED BY THE POWER
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OF JESUS TO GIVE SIGHT TO
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THE BLIND OR ARE MOVED BY THE
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COMPASSION OF JESUS THAT HE
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CARES SO DEEPLY ABOUT EACH
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INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS EVER WALKED
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ON THIS PLANET.
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BUT IN THE MIDST OF THAT, WE
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OVERLOOK THAT PART OF THE
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CONVERSATION THAT I'M CONVINCED
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GOD WANTS US TO STEP INTO.
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WHEN JESUS ASKED THE QUESTION,
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"WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR
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YOU?"
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THAT QUESTION WAS NOT
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INCIDENTAL.
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THAT QUESTION IS ONE OF THE MOST
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SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS WE COULD
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EVER BE ASKED OF BY GOD BECAUSE,
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IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU
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WANT, THEN GOD CANNOT GIVE YOU
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WHAT YOU NEED.
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AND IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND
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THAT GOD WILL NOT FORCE HIMSELF
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ON YOU, IMPOSE HIMSELF ON YOU,
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DEMAND HIMSELF ON YOU, THAT GOD
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IN HIS GRACIOUSNESS AND HIS
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GENEROSITY AND HIS KINDNESS AND
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GENTLENESS, THAT GOD WAITS FOR
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US TO INVITE HIM INTO OUR LIVES
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TO DO WHAT ONLY HE CAN DO FOR
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US, WE WON'T UNDERSTAND THE
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POWER OF HIS QUESTION.
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AND I WONDER TODAY, DO YOU KNOW
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WHAT YOU WANT?
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'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
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YOU WANT, DON'T GET MAD AT GOD
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THAT HE NEVER GIVES YOU WHAT YOU
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NEED BECAUSE, IF JESUS
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ENCOUNTERS TWO BLIND MEN WALKING
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AS HE WALKS DOWN THROUGH JERICHO
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AND THEY CRY OUT TO HIM, "HAVE
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MERCY ON US!"
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AND HE STOPS AND SAYS, "I'M
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GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND
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WHEN I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, I
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NEED YOU TO REALLY THINK THIS
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THROUGH 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A MOMENT
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WITH THE CREATOR OF THE
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UNIVERSE: WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO
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DO FOR YOU?"
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I THINK A LOT OF US ARE
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TERRIFIED TO ASK GOD TO DO BIG
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THINGS IN US AND THROUGH US AND
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FOR US BECAUSE IF I PROVE THAT
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GOD DOES NOT EXIST, AND SO WE
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PRAY SMALL PRAYERS THAT WE CAN
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ACTUALLY FULFILL OURSELVES.
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WE PRAY PRAYERS THAT WON'T GET
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GOD IN TROUBLE, WON'T PUT GOD IN
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A DILEMMA 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA
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PUSH GOD INTO A CORNER WHERE WE
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ASK HIM TO BE GOD, AND WE FIND
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OUT HE'S LESS THAN WE THOUGHT.
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BUT GOD DOES NOT NEED YOU TO
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PROTECT HIM OR HIS REPUTATION.
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GOD IS BIGGER THAN YOUR PRAYERS.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DREAMS.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR
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CHALLENGES.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR FEARS.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DOUBTS.
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HE'S BIGGER THAN YOU!
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AND HE'S WAITING FOR YOU AND FOR
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ME TO CALL ON HIM AS THE GOD
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THAT HE IS AND ASK BIG DREAMS
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AND BIG PRAYERS AND CALL FOR BIG
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VISIONS.
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GOD IS LOOKING FOR THE PERSON
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WHO'S NOT AFRAID OF "THE BIG
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ASK."
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DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT?
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AND I DON'T THINK IT'S
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INCIDENTAL THAT, WHEN THEY'RE
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SHOUTING OUT TO JESUS, "THE
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CROWD REBUKED THEM AND TOLD THEM
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TO BE QUIET."
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YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED
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IN MY OWN LIFE IS THAT, WHEN
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YOU ASK GOD FOR BIG THINGS,
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PEOPLE DON'T START
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CHEERING YOU ON.
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YOU SEE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
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TO PRAY HUMBLE PRAYERS SO THAT
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YOU DON'T THINK TOO MUCH OF
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YOURSELF BECAUSE, IF YOU START
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PRAYING BIG PRAYERS, PEOPLE LOOK
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AT YOU AND SAY, "WHO DO YOU
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THINK YOU ARE PRAYING A PRAYER
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THAT BIG?
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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, ASKING
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GOD TO GIVE YOU YOUR SIGHT?
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I MEAN, AFTER ALL, YOU ARE NO
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ONE!"
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THESE TWO MEN DO NOT EVEN HAVE
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NAMES.
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THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON ANY
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RECORD.
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WHY WOULD JESUS TAKE THE TIME
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AND ENERGY AND EFFORT TO GIVE
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THEM SIGHT WHEN THERE'S NOTHING
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ABOUT THEM AFTER THIS?
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DOESN'T JESUS ONLY ANSWER BIG
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PRAYERS FOR BIG PEOPLE?
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AND SO THEY REBUKED THEM BECAUSE
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THEY DID NOT FEEL THEY WERE
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WORTHY OF ASKING JESUS FOR SO
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GREAT A THING.
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SEE, I THINK A LOT OF US FEEL
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LIKE THOSE BLIND MEN BY THE SIDE
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OF THE ROAD, AND WE DON'T WANT
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TO BE INTRUSIVE ON GOD.
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WE DON'T WANNA ASK GOD FOR MORE
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THAN WE SHOULD OR MORE THAN WE
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DESERVE OR MORE THAN WE OUGHT
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TO, AND SO WE KEEP OUR PRAYERS
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HUMBLE SO THAT NO ONE WILL THINK
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WE THINK TOO MUCH OF OURSELVES.
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IF NO ONE IS REBUKING YOU FOR
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YOUR PRAYERS, YOUR PRAYERS ARE
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TOO SMALL.
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IF NO ONE IS LOOKING AT YOU WITH
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SOME SUSPICION, LOOKING AT YOU,
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SAYING, "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU
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ARE, PRAYING THAT KIND OF
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PRAYER?
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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, HAVING
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THAT KIND OF DREAM?
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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE,
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EXPECTING GOD TO GIVE YOU THAT
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BIG A LIFE?"
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AND YOU CAN RESPOND, "I KNOW WHO
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I AM.
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I'M JUST A BLIND BEGGAR ON THE
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SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT JESUS IS
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WALKING BY, AND I'M NOT GONNA
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GET LOST IN THE CROWD!
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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'CAUSE IT'S NOT WHO I AM.
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IT'S WHO HE IS."
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I GREW UP, READING EVERY
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MYTHOLOGY BOOK IN THE LIBRARY,
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AND I HAD NO IDEA WHO GOD WAS.
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SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKED
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OUT.
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I NEVER REALLY KNEW WHO JESUS
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WAS UNTIL I WAS AROUND 20 YEARS
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OLD, AND SOMEONE HANDED ME A
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BIBLE, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT GOD
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WAS THE GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES,
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AND IF I WOULD PRAY, GOD WOULD
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HEAR MY PRAYERS IF I WOULD
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BELIEVE THAT GOD WOULD HONOR MY
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FAITH, MY TRUST IN HIM.
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BUT I WASN'T SURE HOW IT ALL
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WORKED OUT, AND HERE I AM,
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TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE NOW FOR
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JESUS AND TRYING TO BRING HIM
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HONOR AND PLEASURE AND TO HELP
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PEOPLE COME TO KNOW HIM.
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YOU EVER HAVE SOMETHING TERRIBLE
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HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU
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THINK YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING
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RIGHT?
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SO HERE I AM IN COLLEGE, AND I'M
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TRYIN' TO TALK TO EVERYBODY
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ABOUT WHO JESUS IS.
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AND I ALSO PLAYED ON THE SOCCER
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TEAM, AND I HAVE BAD DAYS WHEN I
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GOT HIT REALLY HARD AT THE
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PARTICULAR MATCH, AND THEY HAD
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TO TAKE ME OVER TO THE HOSPITAL,
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AND THAT NIGHT, I WAS IN SO MUCH
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PAIN.
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AND MY ROOMMATE HAD BUILT A LOFT
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IN THE DORM ROOM WHERE WE SLEPT
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UP HIGH SO WE COULD TURN THE
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BOTTOM INTO A LIVING ROOM.
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AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,
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I JUST KEPT ROLLING BACK AND
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FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH 'CAUSE
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I'M IN SO MUCH PAIN, AND BEFORE
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I EVEN REALIZED THAT, I ROLLED
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OUT OF THAT LOFT, AND I FELL
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RIGHT ON TOP OF MY ROOMMATE'S
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ARMY SURPLUS LOCKER.
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THEY MAKE THOSE THINGS SO SOLID.
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND I HIT THAT METAL CORNER
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WITH MY ELBOW, AND WHEN I
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HIT THAT THING, IT BROKE THE
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RADIAL HEAD OFF MY ELBOW.
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MY ROOMMATE WHOSE MAJOR WAS
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SPORTS THERAPY JUST LAY THERE.
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AND AS I MOANED AND GROANED ON
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THE FLOOR, HE FINALLY SAID, "DID
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YOU DROP SOMETHING?"
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[LAUGHTER]
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"NO."
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AND HE GOES,
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"IS THAT YOU?"
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AND I GO, "YEAH.
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IT'S OKAY.
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I THINK I NEED TO GO TO THE
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HOSPITAL."
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HE GOES, "I'LL TAKE YOU
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IN THE MORNING."
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[LAUGHTER]
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A LOT OF LOVE THERE!
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SO I LAY THERE ALL NIGHT IN COLD
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SWEATS, FEVER, AGONIZING PAIN.
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IN THE MORNING, I GOT MYSELF TO
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THE HOSPITAL.
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AND THEY X-RAYED MY BODY, AND
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THEY TOLD ME THAT I WOULD NEVER
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MOVE MY ARM FOR THE REST OF MY
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LIFE.
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AND THE ONLY EXPRESSION I HAD OF
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MY FAITH AT THAT TIME WAS I WAS
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A MUSICIAN, AND SO I WOULD WRITE
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MUSIC AND PLAY THE GUITAR AND
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SING AND DO THESE FESTIVALS AND
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CONCERTS, AND NOW I'M TOLD THAT
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MY ARM IS STUCK, AND I WOULD
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NEVER MOVE IT AGAIN.
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I'M IN SPORTS REHABILITATION AT
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THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA
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MEDICAL CENTER, AND THEY'RE
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GRAPHING MY MOVEMENT AT ZERO,
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ZERO, ZERO, ZERO.
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AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW
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CONFUSING THAT WAS TO ME-- SAY,
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"JESUS, I TRUSTED YOU WITH MY
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LIFE, AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE
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EVERYTHING I HAVE, AND I'M JUST
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21 YEARS OLD, AND I AM BROKEN!"
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THEN I GOT A PHONE CALL.
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THIS FESTIVAL IS COMING FROM
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CANADA TO NORTH CAROLINA, AND
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THEY HEARD ABOUT ME, SO THEY
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WANTED ME TO PERFORM AT THEIR
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FESTIVAL.
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AND I HAD JUST BROKEN MY ARM A
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COUPLE DAYS BEFORE, AND, WELL,
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THEY ASKED IF I WOULD PERFORM.
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I JUST SAID, "I'LL BE THERE."
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I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WAS GONNA
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BE THERE.
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I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WAS GONNA
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PLAY.
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I JUST SAID, "I'LL BE THERE."
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AND I HUNG UP THE PHONE, AND I
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SAT DOWN ON THE SOFA, AND I
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GRABBED MY GUITAR, AND I PUT IN
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ON MY LAP, AND I PRAYED THE
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BIGGEST PRAYER THAT I EVER
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PRAYED IN MY LIFE UP TO THAT
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POINT.
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I SAID, "JESUS, I JUST WANNA
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PLAY FOR YOU.
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I JUST WANNA DO THIS SO THAT I
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CAN DECLARE YOUR NAME."
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AND I SAID, "JESUS,
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WOULD YOU JUST MOVE MY ARM
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TO THE GUITAR STRINGS SO
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THAT I CAN AT LEAST
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PLAY THE GUITAR?
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THAT'S ALL I'M ASKIN'.
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I JUST ASK YOU TO MOVE MY ARM
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FROM WHERE IT'S STUCK TO THE
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STRINGS SO I COULD PLAY."
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AND IN THAT MOMENT,
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I CANNOT EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU,
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BUT IN THAT MOMENT,
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MY ARM MOVED FROM WHERE IT WAS
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STUCK, AND IT JUST INSTANTLY
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MOVED RIGHT TO THE GUITAR
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STRINGS!
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AND I WAS OVERWHELMED THAT
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"I CANNOT BELIEVE, GOD,
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YOU COULD ANSWER A PRAYER
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SO FAST!"
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND THEN I HAD THIS THOUGHT.
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THAT WAS THE STUPIDEST PRAYER
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I'VE EVER PRAYED IN MY WHOLE
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LIFE.
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I COULD ALMOST HEAR GOD, LIKE,
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"WATCH THIS!
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HE'S ABOUT TO PRAY, AND I'M
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ABOUT TO HEAL HIM!
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WATCH!
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HOW ABOUT I DO A GOD-SIZED
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THING!"
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BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A GOD-SIZED
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PRAYER.
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I SAID, "GOD, JESUS, COULD YOU
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JUST MOVE MY ARM?
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IT'S JUST OVER HERE."
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IT'S LIKE,
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"I'M NOT ASKING FOR A WHOLE LOT.
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YOU COULD PROBABLY ASSIGN THIS
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TO A MIDDLE MANAGER.
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND WHEN I MOVED MY ARM,
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I HEAR-- I HAD THIS
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THOUGHT.
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I REALIZED, "WHAT WAS I
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THINKING!
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IF GOD WOULD MOVE MY ARM FROM
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HERE TO HERE, IF HE WOULD HEAL
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MY ARM THAT MUCH, I'M PRETTY
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SURE HE WAS READY TO HEAL MY ARM
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COMPLETELY!"
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AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT BACK
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TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY
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MEASURED MY MOBILITY, AND THEY
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SAID, "ALL RIGHT.
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LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT."
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ZERO, ZERO, ZERO, ZERO,
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EVERY SINGLE DAY...
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AND I GO, "HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO
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MOVE MY ARM?
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LIKE THIS?
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LIKE THIS?
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HOW..." 'CAUSE I WAS SO NEW, I
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DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER, AND I
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TOLD 'EM ALL ABOUT JESUS AND HOW
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HE HEALED ME!
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SEE, NOW, I THINK A LOT OF US,
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WE PRAY PRAYERS THAT ACTUALLY
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REVEAL OUR LACK OF FAITH IN WHAT
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GOD WANTS TO DO IN US.
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"WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR
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YOU?
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WHAT DO YOU WANT?
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WHAT KIND OF LIFE DO YOU WANT?"
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DO YOU HAVE THE LIFE YOU WANT,
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OR DO YOU JUST HAVE A LIFE YOU
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GOT?
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SEE, I THINK A LOT OF US, WE'RE
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NOT LIVING THE LIFE WE WANT.
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WE'RE LIVING THE LIFE WE'VE GOT.
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AND THE REASON WE NEVER LIVE THE
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LIFE THAT WE WANT IS BECAUSE WE
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DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
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AND GOD KEEPS WAITING: "ASK ME!
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WHAT ARE YOUR DREAMS?
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WHAT'S YOUR VISION?
00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:03.220
WHAT BURDENS YOU?
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WHAT FILLS YOU WITH PASSION?
00:19:06.050 --> 00:19:08.050
WHAT SETS YOU ON FIRE?
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ASK ME FOR SOMETHING BIGGER THAN
00:19:09.260 --> 00:19:11.100
YOU SO THAT I CAN SHOW UP AND BE
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GOD IN YOUR LIFE!"
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[APPLAUSE]
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AND YOU NEED TO OPEN UP YOUR
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HEART AND OPEN UP YOUR MIND
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AND OPEN UP YOUR SOUL, AND
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OPEN UP YOUR DREAMS.
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OPEN UP YOUR IMAGINATION AND
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STOP TRYING TO MAKE OUT AS SMALL
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AS YOU, AND LET GOD MAKE YOU AS
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BIG AS HIM!
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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- MATT: WE WELCOME YOU RIGHT
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WE ARE IN SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, AND
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WHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHING AROUND
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THE WORLD, WE WELCOME YOU.
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- LAURIE: YES!
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- MATT: OUR GUEST,
00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:45.140
ERWIN MCMANUS.
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LET'S TALK ABOUT CREATIVITY.
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WHERE DO WE WANNA GET STARTED IN
00:19:50.020 --> 00:19:50.240
THIS DISCUSSION?
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- ERWIN: WELL, HERE AT THE
00:19:51.130 --> 00:19:52.030
HILLSONG CONFERENCE, THEY'VE
00:19:52.030 --> 00:19:53.270
ADDED A PARTICULAR SESSION
00:19:53.270 --> 00:19:54.220
AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
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DIFFERENT DOMAINS IN WHICH WE
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HUMANS LIVE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE
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ARTS.
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RELIGION IS CONSIDERED A DOMAIN,
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FAMILY.
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AND PART OF THE FOCUS IS REALLY
00:20:07.120 --> 00:20:09.270
THAT WE SHOULDN'T ISOLATE OUR
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FAITH INTO SIMPLY, LIKE, A
00:20:10.270 --> 00:20:13.270
RELIGIOUS DOMAIN, BUT WE SHOULD
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ACTUALLY IMPACT EVERY DOMAIN,
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WHETHER IT'S POLITICS OR
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BUSINESS OR EDUCATION OR ARTS,
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WHICH REALLY MATCHES REALLY WELL
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WITH THE THEMES OF "THE ARTISAN
00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:24.100
SOUL."
00:20:24.100 --> 00:20:25.050
AND SO I SPEND MY TIME TALKING
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ABOUT HOW THE DOMAINS,
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THOSE SPHERES ARE ACTUALLY
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CANVASES UPON WHICH HUMANS PAINT
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BECAUSE EVERY HUMAN BEING IS A
00:20:32.220 --> 00:20:35.000
WORK OF ART AND AN ARTIST AT
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WORK.
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AND SO WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE
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FIELD OF EDUCATION OR WHETHER
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YOU'RE AN ENTREPRENEUR IN THE
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BUSINESS WORLD OR WHETHER YOU'RE
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IN THE WORLD OF ARTS AND
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ENTERTAINMENT LIKE YOURSELVES,
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OR WHETHER A PERSON'S THE PASTOR
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OF A CHURCH, EVERY ONE OF US IS
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REALLY SPENDING OUR LIVES,
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TRYING TO CREATE A MASTERPIECE.
00:20:52.190 --> 00:20:53.110
AND WHAT WE DO IN THOSE
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ENVIRONMENTS, BRINGING OUR
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PASSIONS, OUR TALENTS, OUR
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GIFTING, OUR INTELLIGENCE, OUR
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SOULS, EVERY PART OF US, THAT'S
00:21:01.070 --> 00:21:04.070
OUR CREATIVE WORK IN LIFE.
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THERE ARE POINTS IN HISTORY
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WHERE PEOPLE OF FAITH FEEL
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OVERWHELMED BY THE DARKNESS OF
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THE WORLD AROUND THEM, YOU KNOW,
00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:16.170
WHETHER IT'S POLITICAL OR
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WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC.
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I THINK SOMETIMES OUR FAITH HAS
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BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD, AND THE
00:21:22.090 --> 00:21:25.090
CHURCH IS MISUNDERSTOOD, SO THE
00:21:25.090 --> 00:21:27.070
CHURCH BECOMES ALMOST LIKE A
00:21:27.070 --> 00:21:29.090
FORTRESS WHERE WE CAN HIDE FROM
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THE WORLD AROUND US.
00:21:30.100 --> 00:21:32.010
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A
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REALLY POLITICALLY DANGEROUS
00:21:32.260 --> 00:21:34.070
WORLD, YOU CAN FEEL LIKE THE
00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:35.120
WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST YOU, AND
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I THINK SOMETIMES WHAT'S
00:21:37.060 --> 00:21:39.020
HAPPENED IS THE CHURCH HAS SEEN
00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:40.240
ITSELF ALMOST AT WAR WITH THE
00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.030
WORLD, AND SO EVEN THE LANGUAGE
00:21:42.150 --> 00:21:45.150
OF THE WORLD IS A VERY NEGATIVE
00:21:45.150 --> 00:21:46.140
LANGUAGE.
00:21:46.140 --> 00:21:47.240
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME,
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AND I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS
00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.040
TODAY IS THAT, WHEN ISRAEL WAS
00:21:51.040 --> 00:21:52.240
TAKEN CAPTIVE BY THE
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BABYLONIANS, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE
00:21:54.170 --> 00:21:56.170
A MORE DARK METAPHOR THAN
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BABYLON, RIGHT?
00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:59.200
WHEN WE THINK OF BABYLON, WE
00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.190
THINK OF THE WORLD IN ITS WORST
00:22:00.190 --> 00:22:01.120
CONDITION.
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YET, WHAT GOD SAYS TO JEREMIAH
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AND TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL IS
00:22:04.060 --> 00:22:05.160
HE SAYS, "'I KNOW THE PLANS I
00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.180
HAVE FOR YOU,' DECLARES THE
00:22:07.180 --> 00:22:08.080
LORD, 'PLANS WITH WELFARE, NOT
00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:09.200
DESTRUCTION, WITH A FUTURE AND A
00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:14.190
HOPE.'"
00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:16.090
AND WHAT GOD IS ACTUALLY SAYING
00:22:16.090 --> 00:22:17.010
TO THEM THERE, HE SAYS,
00:22:17.010 --> 00:22:17.290
"I WANT YOU TO GO INTO THE CITY,
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AND I WANT YOU TO BUILD HOUSES
00:22:18.260 --> 00:22:20.200
AND HAVE CHILDREN AND HAVE
00:22:21.060 --> 00:22:24.060
FAMILIES."
00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:24.210
AND THEN HE SAYS,
00:22:24.210 --> 00:22:26.210
"FOR WHEN THE CITY PROSPERS, YOU
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WILL PROSPER."
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I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE
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GOT IT WRONG: WE THOUGHT WE
00:22:29.040 --> 00:22:29.240
SHOULD PULL OURSELVES OUT OF
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.100
THE WORLD SO THAT GOD WILL
00:22:31.100 --> 00:22:32.250
PROSPER US, RATHER THAN
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GIVE OURSELVES TO SERVE THE
00:22:34.060 --> 00:22:35.090
WORLD.
00:22:35.090 --> 00:22:37.290
BECAUSE, WHEN WE BECOME A
00:22:37.290 --> 00:22:38.180
BLESSING TO THE WORLD, WHEN THEY
00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:39.270
PROSPER, THEN WE'LL PROSPER.
00:22:39.270 --> 00:22:41.260
SO I THINK WE REALLY, IN SOME
00:22:41.260 --> 00:22:42.280
SENSE, HAD A REALLY BAD
00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:44.180
THEOLOGY.
00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:46.220
WE THOUGHT THAT WHAT IT MEANT TO
00:22:46.220 --> 00:22:48.140
BE THE CHURCH, TO BE SANCTIFIED,
00:22:48.140 --> 00:22:49.200
TO BE HOLY, WAS TO PULL
00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.070
OURSELVES OUT OF THE WORLD
00:22:52.070 --> 00:22:52.260
RATHER THAN TO DIVE RIGHT INTO
00:22:52.260 --> 00:22:54.160
THAT WORLD AND BE A BLESSING TO
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.210
THAT WORLD.
00:22:55.210 --> 00:22:57.060
- MATT: WOW.
00:22:57.060 --> 00:22:58.170
OKAY.
00:22:58.170 --> 00:22:59.070
YOU JUST DROPPED A BOMB RIGHT
00:22:59.070 --> 00:23:00.240
HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:01.130
HILLSONG CONFERENCE, AND I DON'T
00:23:01.130 --> 00:23:02.240
WANNA GO FAR FROM THAT.
00:23:03.110 --> 00:23:06.110
I WANT YOU TO KEEP TALKING IN
00:23:06.110 --> 00:23:07.030
THAT VEIN.
00:23:07.030 --> 00:23:09.160
BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.060
THAT, IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, OUR
00:23:10.060 --> 00:23:11.110
GUEST, ERWIN MCMANUS-- AND ON
00:23:11.110 --> 00:23:12.070
CUE, LIKE SOMEBODY HAD PLANNED
00:23:12.070 --> 00:23:13.160
IT, THERE WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.260
COMING DOWN THE ESCALATOR BEHIND
00:23:15.260 --> 00:23:18.010
YOU, AND THEY WERE HOLDING YOUR
00:23:18.010 --> 00:23:19.200
BOOK, "ARTISAN SOUL."
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.190
SO I SAW THE LOGO OF YOUR
00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:23.140
BOOK GO RIGHT PAST YOUR HEAD
00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:24.050
HERE AS WE ARE GOING HERE
00:23:24.050 --> 00:23:26.060
AND SO--
00:23:26.060 --> 00:23:28.180
- ERWIN: WELL, THAT'S
00:23:28.180 --> 00:23:29.070
ENCOURAGING!
00:23:29.070 --> 00:23:29.230
[LAUGHTER]
00:23:29.230 --> 00:23:30.170
- MATT: "ARTISAN SOUL" IS
00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:31.100
REALLY YOUR LATEST BOOK, AND
00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:32.260
REALLY BECOMING THE SUBJECT OF
00:23:32.260 --> 00:23:34.120
OUR DISCUSSION HERE.
00:23:34.120 --> 00:23:36.020
THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS BAD
00:23:36.020 --> 00:23:38.200
THEOLOGY AND THAT WE WERE
00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:42.050
SUPPOSED TO "BE YE SEPARATE,"
00:23:42.050 --> 00:23:43.290
COME OUT FROM AMONGST THE WORLD,
00:23:43.290 --> 00:23:45.190
LIKE, "BE YE SEPARATE," WAS MY
00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:47.040
PARENTS' MANTRA.
00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:50.270
REMEMBER, IF--
00:23:50.270 --> 00:23:53.000
- LAURIE: AND THEIR PARENTS.
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:54.110
- MATT: AND THEIR PARENTS.
00:23:54.110 --> 00:23:56.150
IF MY MOM AND DAD, PAUL AND JAN
00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:59.090
CROUCH, THAT THEY HAD TO SAY OF
00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:02.270
THEIR PARENTS, "YOU'RE SINCERE
00:24:03.020 --> 00:24:06.020
IN YOUR FAITH, BUT YOU'RE
00:24:06.020 --> 00:24:06.280
SINCERELY WRONG--" BECAUSE MY
00:24:06.280 --> 00:24:09.060
GRANDPARENTS WOULD'VE NEVER
00:24:09.060 --> 00:24:10.250
ENDORSED TRINITY BROADCASTING
00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:11.170
NETWORK.
00:24:11.170 --> 00:24:13.260
TELEVISION WAS "EVIL," FILM, YOU
00:24:13.260 --> 00:24:15.150
KNOW, RADIO.
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.200
MY DAD TELLS THE STORY, AND MY
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.060
MOM TELLS THE STORY OF THE
00:24:21.060 --> 00:24:21.250
PASTOR COMING OVER TO THE HOUSE.
00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:23.020
YOU HAD TO PUT YOUR RADIO IN THE
00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:24.020
CLOSET--
00:24:24.020 --> 00:24:25.240
- LAURIE: COVER IT UP!
00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:26.230
- MATT: -- MAKE SURE THE PASTOR
00:24:26.230 --> 00:24:27.150
DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A RADIO.
00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:28.060
AND SO TELEVISION WAS THE
00:24:28.060 --> 00:24:29.140
ONE-EYED DEMON MONSTER THAT WAS
00:24:30.010 --> 00:24:33.010
GOING TO SUCK THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:36.230
OUT OF CHRISTIANITY RATHER THAN
00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:37.290
JUMPING INTO THE MIDDLE OF IT
00:24:37.290 --> 00:24:39.010
AND USING IT FOR THE GOSPEL.
00:24:39.010 --> 00:24:40.210
- ERWIN: EVEN THE BIBLICAL WORD
00:24:40.210 --> 00:24:42.090
FOR "CHURCH," "EKKLESIA," WHICH
00:24:42.090 --> 00:24:44.290
LITERALLY MEANS "TO BE CALLED
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.000
OUT," WE INTERPRET THAT AS BEING
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:50.220
CALLED OUT FROM THE WORLD RATHER
00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:53.150
THAN BEING CALLED OUT TO THE
00:24:53.150 --> 00:24:54.190
WORLD.
00:24:54.190 --> 00:24:56.020
- MATT: WOW.
00:24:56.020 --> 00:24:56.220
- LAURIE: THAT'S GOOD.
00:24:56.220 --> 00:24:58.260
- ERWIN: AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE
00:24:58.260 --> 00:24:59.180
INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES HAS
00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:00.210
BEEN DISTORTED BY A VIEW THAT WE
00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:02.080
NEED TO RUN FROM THE SPHERES,
00:25:02.080 --> 00:25:05.010
RUN FROM THOSE DOMAINS, RATHER
00:25:05.010 --> 00:25:07.120
THAN ACTUALLY BECOMING THE
00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:09.000
CREATIVE FORCE OF GOD TO CREATE
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.190
GREAT BUSINESSES THAT DO GOOD IN
00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:13.280
THE WORLD, TO CREATE BEAUTIFUL
00:25:13.280 --> 00:25:14.290
ART THAT INSPIRES THE WORLD, TO
00:25:14.290 --> 00:25:15.290
CREATE GREAT TEACHERS SO WE CAN
00:25:15.290 --> 00:25:18.260
EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE A
00:25:18.260 --> 00:25:20.150
BEAUTIFUL SENSE OF HOPE AND
00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:22.100
CREATIVITY AND ARTISTRY AND
00:25:22.100 --> 00:25:24.140
CONFIDENCE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
00:25:24.140 --> 00:25:26.030
IN THE WORLD-- AND, FRANKLY,
00:25:26.030 --> 00:25:28.040
EVEN WITH THE BOOK, IN FACT, I
00:25:28.040 --> 00:25:29.010
PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS
00:25:29.010 --> 00:25:31.000
BUT--
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:31.250
- LAURIE: OH, GO AHEAD.
00:25:31.250 --> 00:25:32.160
- MATT: OH, GO ON!
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.070
[LAUGHTER]
00:25:33.070 --> 00:25:34.030
- LAURIE: OH, PLEASE!
00:25:34.030 --> 00:25:35.130
- ERWIN: ONE OF THE THINGS
00:25:35.130 --> 00:25:36.140
THAT-- SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE MORE
00:25:36.140 --> 00:25:37.280
OF AN ARTIST THAN YOU ARE A
00:25:37.280 --> 00:25:39.010
MARKETER OR A SALESPERSON, IS
00:25:39.010 --> 00:25:41.170
THAT YOU NAME SOMETHING CLOSER
00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:43.150
TO WHAT YOU FEEL IN YOUR SOUL
00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:45.040
RATHER THAN WHAT ACTUALLY
00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:46.120
TRANSLATES WELL TO THE AUDIENCE.
00:25:46.120 --> 00:25:47.230
- MATT: GOTCHA.
00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:48.170
- ERWIN: AND WHEN I NAMED THE
00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:50.030
BOOK ORIGINALLY, IT WAS JUST
00:25:50.030 --> 00:25:50.230
CALLED "ARTISAN," BECAUSE, FOR
00:25:50.230 --> 00:25:52.130
ME, THAT FELT VERY ARTISTIC, AND
00:25:52.130 --> 00:25:54.010
IT CARRIED THE ESSENCE OF MY
00:25:54.010 --> 00:25:54.280
SOUL.
00:25:54.280 --> 00:25:57.180
AS I LIVED OUT THIS BOOK, I'VE
00:25:57.180 --> 00:25:58.260
REALIZED IT SHOULD'VE NEVER BEEN
00:25:58.260 --> 00:26:01.030
CALLED "THE ARTISAN SOUL."
00:26:01.030 --> 00:26:01.220
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN CALLED "THE
00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:04.210
CREATIVE MANIFESTO" BECAUSE
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.000
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE BOOK,
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:08.290
GOING, "OH, I'M NOT AN ARTIST.
00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:09.290
THIS BOOK ISN'T FOR ME."
00:26:09.290 --> 00:26:10.240
- MATT: OH, WOW.
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:13.170
- ERWIN: AND SO PEOPLE ARE
00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:15.070
WALKING BY IT, NOT PICKING UP
00:26:15.070 --> 00:26:16.150
THE MESSAGE OF THIS BOOK, WHICH
00:26:16.150 --> 00:26:17.080
IS ACTUALLY A CREATIVE
00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:18.160
MANIFESTO.
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.040
IT'S A DECLARATION OF WHAT IT
00:26:20.040 --> 00:26:21.160
MEANS TO BE CREATED IN THE IMAGE
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:22.170
OF GOD AND THAT WE ARE IMAGINED
00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:25.070
TO IMAGINE AND CREATED TO
00:26:25.070 --> 00:26:26.100
CREATE, THAT EVERY HUMAN BEING
00:26:26.100 --> 00:26:27.200
IS A WORK OF ART AND AN ARTIST
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.210
AT WORK.
00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:30.130
AND SO IF I HAVE ANY REGRET,
00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:33.050
IT'S THAT I DIDN'T TRANSLATE THE
00:26:35.040 --> 00:26:38.040
TITLE IN A WAY WHERE IT WOULD BE
00:26:38.040 --> 00:26:40.110
JUMPING OFF THE SHELF FOR PEOPLE
00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:42.050
OF FAITH, GOING,
00:26:42.050 --> 00:26:43.060
"IT'S TIME FOR US TO CREATE
00:26:43.060 --> 00:26:45.210
A REVOLUTION OF CREATIVITY"
00:26:45.210 --> 00:26:47.220
'CAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE THE
00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:49.100
BIBLE BACK FROM ALL THOSE PEOPLE
00:26:49.100 --> 00:26:51.000
WHO TURNED IT INTO A
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:51.270
MANUSCRIPT OF CONFORMITY AND
00:26:51.270 --> 00:26:53.290
RECLAIM IT AS OUR MANIFESTO OF
00:26:53.290 --> 00:26:55.130
CREATIVITY.
00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:56.170
- LAURIE: OKAY.
00:26:56.170 --> 00:26:57.160
HOW DO WE DO THAT?
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:58.050
GET US STARTED AND EVEN THINKING
00:26:58.050 --> 00:26:59.150
THAT DIRECTION.
00:26:59.150 --> 00:27:01.090
- ERWIN: WELL, THE MOST OBVIOUS
00:27:01.090 --> 00:27:04.030
THING THAT I SHOULD SAY IS "READ
00:27:04.030 --> 00:27:05.070
THE BOOK!"
00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:06.030
- LAURIE: RIGHT!
00:27:06.030 --> 00:27:06.200
[LAUGHTER]
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:07.160
- ERWIN: YEAH!
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:08.120
- LAURIE: OKAY!
00:27:08.120 --> 00:27:10.010
- ERWIN: AND SOMETIMES IT'S
00:27:10.010 --> 00:27:10.220
BECAUSE PEOPLE GO, "HOW DO WE
00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:11.160
GET YOU TO HELP US?"
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.200
I GO, "THAT'S WHY I WROTE THE
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:13.190
BOOK" IS BECAUSE I CAN'T BE
00:27:13.190 --> 00:27:15.040
EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES AND
00:27:15.040 --> 00:27:17.040
BECAUSE THE FIRST 40 PAGES ARE
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.160
JUST A CONVERSATION TO CHANGE
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.160
THE WAY YOU THINK ABOUT YOURSELF
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:24.260
'CAUSE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
00:27:25.030 --> 00:27:28.030
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SING,
00:27:28.030 --> 00:27:29.200
YOU'LL NEVER OPEN YOUR MOUTH TO
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.190
SING.
00:27:30.190 --> 00:27:32.170
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN
00:27:32.170 --> 00:27:33.280
PAINT, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA PICK
00:27:33.280 --> 00:27:35.000
UP THE BRUSH AND PAINT.
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.070
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN
00:27:36.070 --> 00:27:38.020
MAKE THE WORLD BETTER, IF YOU
00:27:38.020 --> 00:27:39.030
DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN CREATE,
00:27:39.030 --> 00:27:40.140
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOUR
00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:41.280
IMAGINATION ISN'T JUST SOME
00:27:41.280 --> 00:27:43.270
ARBITRARY HUMAN DYNAMIC-- THAT
00:27:43.270 --> 00:27:46.150
IT'S GOD'S PLAYGROUND WHERE HE
00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:48.180
PUTS HIS DREAMS AND HIS VISIONS
00:27:48.180 --> 00:27:50.240
INTO YOUR SOUL AND THAT YOU'RE
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.200
SUPPOSED TO HAVE DREAMS AND
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:53.260
VISIONS OF A FUTURE THAT GOD
00:27:53.260 --> 00:27:55.120
WANTS TO CREATE IN YOU AND
00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:56.140
THROUGH YOU.
00:27:56.290 --> 00:27:59.290
- MATT: OKAY.
00:27:59.290 --> 00:28:01.010
THERE'S SOMEONE WATCHING RIGHT
00:28:01.010 --> 00:28:02.170
NOW WHO LOVES TO DANCE, SING,
00:28:03.110 --> 00:28:06.110
PAINT, TWIRL, ALL THOSE THINGS,
00:28:06.130 --> 00:28:09.130
AND THEY THINK IT'S USELESS OR
00:28:09.130 --> 00:28:10.230
IT'S A SIDEBAR, AND YOU'RE GONNA
00:28:10.230 --> 00:28:12.100
TOUCH SOME PEOPLE.
00:28:12.100 --> 00:28:14.050
IF YOU'D LOOK INTO THE CAMERA
00:28:14.050 --> 00:28:15.170
AND JUST UNPACK THAT AND GIVE
00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.180
THEM PERMISSION TO BE AN ARTISAN
00:28:17.180 --> 00:28:20.050
AND TO USE THAT IN A WAY TO
00:28:20.050 --> 00:28:21.120
GLORIFY GOD.
00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:23.110
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HELP A LOT
00:28:23.110 --> 00:28:24.150
OF PEOPLE.
00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:25.260
- ERWIN: AND THEN I THINK IT
00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.260
EVEN GOES SO FAR BEYOND THAT.
00:28:26.260 --> 00:28:28.070
I MEAN, WHAT I FIND IS, I GET
00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:30.210
E-MAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM
00:28:31.020 --> 00:28:34.020
ALL OVER THE WORLD FROM PEOPLE
00:28:34.020 --> 00:28:35.160
IN THE ARTS, FROM WRITERS AND
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.220
DIRECTORS, FROM DANCERS AND
00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:39.140
PAINTERS, FROM ARTISTS WHO NEVER
00:28:39.140 --> 00:28:40.180
FELT THAT THEIR CREATIVE ESSENCE
00:28:42.120 --> 00:28:45.120
FIT INTO GOD'S AGENDA IN THE
00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:47.110
WORLD.
00:28:47.110 --> 00:28:48.110
THEY WERE TOLD ALL THEIR LIFE
00:28:48.110 --> 00:28:49.090
THAT THEIR CREATIVITY DIDN'T
00:28:49.090 --> 00:28:50.250
HAVE A PLACE IN THE CHURCH OR IN
00:28:50.250 --> 00:28:53.120
GOD'S NARRATIVE FOR HUMANITY.
00:28:53.260 --> 00:28:56.260
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT YOU
00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:58.130
TO REALIZE IS THAT YOU ARE A
00:28:58.130 --> 00:28:59.190
CREATIVE BEING BECAUSE YOU WERE
00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:02.250
CREATED BY GOD.
00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:04.010
YOUR CREATIVITY ISN'T AT WAR
00:29:04.010 --> 00:29:05.090
WITH GOD.
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.000
IT'S ACTUALLY A REFLECTION OF
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:09.220
GOD.
00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:10.140
BUT THERE'S MORE THAN THAT.
00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:11.090
THERE ARE SOME OF YOU THAT ARE
00:29:11.090 --> 00:29:12.050
NOT PAINTERS OR DANCERS OR A
00:29:12.050 --> 00:29:13.180
ARTISANS THE WAY THAT WE THINK
00:29:13.180 --> 00:29:14.290
OF THAT CONVENTIONALLY.
00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:18.120
SOME OF YOU ARE MOMS WHO ARE
00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:19.040
JUST SO CREATIVE IN THE WAY YOU
00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:19.260
PARENT.
00:29:19.260 --> 00:29:20.100
SOME OF YOU ARE TEACHERS THAT
00:29:20.100 --> 00:29:21.130
ARE JUST SO UNORTHODOX IN THE
00:29:21.130 --> 00:29:22.260
WAY THAT YOU EDUCATE, AND YOU'VE
00:29:22.260 --> 00:29:24.080
ALWAYS FELT TERRIBLE BECAUSE YOU
00:29:24.080 --> 00:29:25.240
JUST SIMPLY COULD NOT SEE THE
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.230
WORLD THE WAY EVERYONE ELSE SAW
00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:29.120
THE WORLD.
00:29:29.120 --> 00:29:30.100
AND I WANT YOU TO FEEL THIS
00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:31.240
INCREDIBLE SENSE OF FREEDOM THAT
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.090
GOD CREATED YOU IN YOUR
00:29:33.090 --> 00:29:35.110
UNIQUENESS, THAT HE DID NOT
00:29:35.110 --> 00:29:37.020
CREATE YOU TO BE CONFORMED OR
00:29:37.020 --> 00:29:38.160
STANDARDIZED OR TO COMPLY TO
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.160
WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS YOU
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:41.150
SHOULD BE.
00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:43.120
YOUR ONLY STANDARD IS THE
00:29:43.120 --> 00:29:44.200
FINGERPRINT OF GOD ON YOUR LIFE,
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.190
AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR
00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:49.080
EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER USED THE
00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:51.030
NAME OF JESUS TO TELL YOU THAT
00:29:51.030 --> 00:29:54.010
YOU NEED TO BE CONFORMED OR
00:29:54.010 --> 00:29:56.110
STANDARDIZED OR CLONED TO
00:29:56.110 --> 00:29:58.070
EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD
00:29:58.070 --> 00:30:00.210
BECAUSE JESUS IS THE
00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:03.100
REVOLUTIONARY WHO UNLOCKS YOUR
00:30:03.100 --> 00:30:05.110
CREATIVITY, WHO UNLOCKS YOUR
00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:07.070
UNIQUENESS, WHO UNLOCKS THAT
00:30:07.070 --> 00:30:08.000
ASPECT OF WHO YOU ARE THAT
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:09.200
REFLECTS GOD MOST BEAUTIFULLY,
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.070
AND IN THAT YOU ARE LIKE NO ONE
00:30:11.070 --> 00:30:13.000
ELSE IN THE WORLD.
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.100
I'M JUST GONNA BE REALLY HONEST.
00:30:15.100 --> 00:30:16.220
IF FOLLOWING JESUS MEANT LOSING
00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:19.100
MY UNIQUENESS, IF IT MEANT
00:30:19.100 --> 00:30:21.070
STANDARDIZING MY SOUL AND
00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:25.170
BECOMING LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I
00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:26.210
WOULD NOT BE TELLING YOU THAT
00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:28.000
JESUS IS THE WAY.
00:30:28.030 --> 00:30:31.030
BUT WHEN YOU TRUST JESUS WITH
00:30:31.030 --> 00:30:32.010
YOUR LIFE, WHEN YOU FOLLOW HIM,
00:30:32.010 --> 00:30:33.180
YOU FIND A FREEDOM THAT COMES
00:30:33.180 --> 00:30:36.070
FROM NO ONE ELSE.
00:30:36.070 --> 00:30:38.180
YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO WORRY
00:30:38.180 --> 00:30:39.210
ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK,
00:30:39.210 --> 00:30:40.130
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY.
00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:41.220
YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO LIVE TO
00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:42.240
THE STANDARDS OF ANYONE ELSE
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.210
BECAUSE "HE WHO THE SON SETS
00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:47.160
FREE IS FREE INDEED."
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.040
- MATT: WOW!
00:30:49.040 --> 00:30:51.140
YOU KNOW, YOU ARE NOT NORMAL.
00:30:53.190 --> 00:30:56.190
YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:57.170
YOU ARE A--
00:30:57.170 --> 00:30:58.190
- LAURIE: AMAZING!
00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:00.130
- MATT: -- AMAZING,
00:31:00.130 --> 00:31:03.040
OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKER.
00:31:03.040 --> 00:31:04.000
I WANNA TELL THAT, FIRST OF ALL,
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.220
YOU'RE HERE-- WE'RE HERE IN
00:31:05.220 --> 00:31:07.190
SYDNEY, WHEREVER YOU'RE
00:31:07.190 --> 00:31:08.070
WATCHING.
00:31:08.070 --> 00:31:10.030
STAY WITH US.
00:31:10.030 --> 00:31:10.190
WE'RE GONNA BE BOUNCING IN AND
00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:11.230
OUT OF THE HILLSONG CONFERENCE
00:31:11.230 --> 00:31:13.140
HERE IN SYDNEY.
00:31:13.140 --> 00:31:14.160
AMAZING!
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.150
ALL THE PEOPLE HERE WILL BE
00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:16.140
RUNNING IN AND OUT AND JOINING
00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:19.180
THE CONFERENCE, AND WE'RE GONNA
00:31:19.180 --> 00:31:20.250
TAKE YOU IN AND OUT OF THE
00:31:20.250 --> 00:31:21.280
CONFERENCE.
00:31:21.280 --> 00:31:22.160
CONFERENCE SPEAKER,
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.260
ERWIN MCMANUS.
00:31:23.260 --> 00:31:24.260
ERWIN IS PASTORING MOSAIC CHURCH
00:31:25.230 --> 00:31:28.230
IN LOS ANGELES.
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.060
I WAS IN MOSAIC CHURCH, AND WHAT
00:31:30.060 --> 00:31:32.280
I FOUND IS THAT YOUR LIFE IS
00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:38.150
ABOUT, NOT ABOUT ADDRESSING
00:31:38.150 --> 00:31:40.000
ISSUES THAT GET ADDRESSED AT
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.150
EVERY CHURCH, EVERYWHERE IN THE
00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:42.080
WORLD.
00:31:42.080 --> 00:31:43.070
IT'S ABOUT DEALING WITH THE
00:31:43.070 --> 00:31:44.140
ISSUES THAT DON'T GET ADDRESSED.
00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:45.290
YOU'RE PREACHING, REALLY, FOR
00:31:45.290 --> 00:31:47.240
THE PEOPLE WALKING BY YOUR
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.080
CHURCH, NOT THE ONES THAT ARE
00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:51.170
REALLY SITTING IN THAT CHURCH.
00:31:51.170 --> 00:31:52.160
AND MOSAIC AND YOUR MINISTRY, IN
00:31:52.170 --> 00:31:55.170
GENERAL, IS LIKE A VACUUM,
00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:59.080
THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT
00:31:59.080 --> 00:31:59.290
DON'T EVER GET THOUGHT ABOUT AS
00:31:59.290 --> 00:32:01.110
MUCH.
00:32:01.110 --> 00:32:03.080
IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
00:32:03.080 --> 00:32:03.270
- ERWIN: IT REALLY IS.
00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:06.220
AND, IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, MY
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:07.130
KIDS HAVE TRIED TO REMIND ME
00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:08.080
THAT I SHOULD CARE ABOUT
00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:09.030
CHRISTIANS TOO.
00:32:09.030 --> 00:32:10.150
[LAUGHTER]
00:32:10.150 --> 00:32:12.260
AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T.
00:32:12.260 --> 00:32:14.050
IT'S JUST THAT I'M NOT THE
00:32:14.050 --> 00:32:17.020
SOURCE OF WHAT PEOPLE NEED, SO I
00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:18.200
KNOW THAT ONCE YOU HAVE THAT
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.180
SOURCE, ONCE YOU'VE COME INTO A
00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:23.040
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS, YOU
00:32:23.040 --> 00:32:25.280
ACTUALLY HAVE THE SOURCE, SO
00:32:25.280 --> 00:32:27.070
WHAT YOU NEED MOST, AND SO I
00:32:27.220 --> 00:32:30.220
FEEL LIKE I BECOME LESS VALUABLE
00:32:30.220 --> 00:32:31.140
TO YOU.
00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:33.120
AND SO I DO HAVE A DEEP BURDEN,
00:32:33.120 --> 00:32:36.060
AND I JUST LOVE PEOPLE, AND IT
00:32:36.060 --> 00:32:37.170
ACTUALLY BREAKS MY HEART TO KNOW
00:32:38.110 --> 00:32:41.110
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL ALONE
00:32:41.110 --> 00:32:43.000
IN THE WORLD AND WHO DON'T KNOW
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.100
THAT THEY MATTER.
00:32:45.100 --> 00:32:46.190
AND I ALSO THINK THAT-- I DON'T
00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:48.040
KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS, BUT THERE
00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:50.050
ARE REALLY SMART PEOPLE OUT
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.240
THERE WHO DON'T THINK GOD IS A
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.020
LEGITIMATE OPTION BECAUSE
00:32:56.020 --> 00:32:57.290
THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE WHO
00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:01.190
COMMUNICATE ON THEIR WAVELENGTH.
00:33:01.190 --> 00:33:04.030
THEY ARE REALLY CREATIVE,
00:33:04.030 --> 00:33:05.240
INTUITIVE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.050
JUST DON'T SEE JESUS AS A
00:33:08.050 --> 00:33:09.140
REALISTIC OPTION BECAUSE THERE
00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:10.190
ARE PEOPLE--
00:33:10.190 --> 00:33:12.050
NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING
00:33:12.050 --> 00:33:14.180
ON THEIR FREQUENCY.
00:33:14.180 --> 00:33:15.170
AND I FEEL LIKE A PART OF MY OWN
00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:16.090
BURDEN AND MY OWN MISSION IN
00:33:16.090 --> 00:33:17.210
LIFE IS TO TRY TO TRANSLATE WHO
00:33:17.210 --> 00:33:18.210
JESUS IS FOR PEOPLE FOR WHOM IT
00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:22.150
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE STILL, YOU
00:33:22.290 --> 00:33:25.290
KNOW?
00:33:25.290 --> 00:33:26.170
IN FACT, I WROTE DOWN IN MY
00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:27.280
NOTES THAT MY PRAYER IS THAT
00:33:30.100 --> 00:33:33.100
SOMEHOW I COULD HAVE A
00:33:33.100 --> 00:33:34.210
CONVERSATION WITH THE WORLD.
00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:37.040
AND, BY THE WAY, I JUST WANNA
00:33:37.040 --> 00:33:37.270
SAY FOR YOU GUYS, I KNOW IT WAS
00:33:37.270 --> 00:33:38.280
A HUGE LOSS IN LOSING YOUR DAD
00:33:38.280 --> 00:33:41.160
AND YOUR MOM, AND I KNOW THAT
00:33:42.180 --> 00:33:45.180
YOU HAVE SUCH LOVE AND RESPECT
00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:48.130
FOR ALL THAT THEY DID, BUT I
00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:51.020
ALSO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN
00:33:51.020 --> 00:33:52.160
THINGS IN YOUR HEARTS THAT
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.140
YOU'VE WANTED TO DO THAT YOU'VE
00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:54.210
BEEN REALLY PATIENT IN HONORING
00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:57.180
THE WAY TO DO 'EM.
00:33:57.180 --> 00:34:00.160
AND I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.030
THE FUTURE OF TBN IS AND TO SEE
00:34:02.030 --> 00:34:04.220
HOW YOU WILL CREATE PLATFORMS
00:34:06.020 --> 00:34:09.020
FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT VOICES
00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:12.080
THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO SERIOUSLY
00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:13.260
CONSIDER WHO JESUS IS AND WILL
00:34:16.010 --> 00:34:19.010
BE DRAWN TO THE WONDER OF WHO
00:34:19.010 --> 00:34:21.290
GOD IS.
00:34:21.290 --> 00:34:22.290
AND SO I JUST WANNA TELL YOU I'M
00:34:22.290 --> 00:34:24.220
SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE STAYED
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.000
IN THERE AND HAVE REALLY SERVED
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.240
AND HAVE REALLY HONORED YOUR
00:34:31.240 --> 00:34:33.030
PARENTS AND HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL
00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:37.170
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK THIS
00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:38.130
IS, LIKE, YOUR TIME WHERE YOU'RE
00:34:38.130 --> 00:34:39.050
GONNA CREATE A GLOBAL
00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:43.130
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO JESUS IS,
00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:44.240
AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
00:34:44.240 --> 00:34:46.100
TURN UP.
00:34:46.100 --> 00:34:48.030
- MATT: WELL, I'M NOT DOIN' IT
00:34:48.030 --> 00:34:48.250
WITHOUT YOU SO--
00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:49.160
[LAUGHTER]
00:34:49.160 --> 00:34:50.030
- LAURIE: YOU'RE A HUGE PART OF
00:34:50.030 --> 00:34:50.260
THAT!
00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:51.120
- MATT: YOU'RE A BIG PIECE OF
00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:52.030
THAT, ERWIN.
00:34:52.030 --> 00:34:52.150
AND, LOOK, WE BASICALLY HAVE
00:34:54.100 --> 00:34:57.100
BEEN BOUNCING IN AND OUT OF
00:34:57.100 --> 00:34:58.060
YOUR--
00:34:58.060 --> 00:34:58.210
FROM THE BIG STAGE HERE
00:34:58.210 --> 00:34:59.250
AND OUR CONVERSATION.
00:34:59.250 --> 00:35:02.110
YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION
00:35:02.240 --> 00:35:05.240
SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD, AND,
00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:06.140
JUST, IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT
00:35:07.220 --> 00:35:10.220
IS TO FIND FAITH IN JESUS, I'D
00:35:10.220 --> 00:35:12.100
LOVE FOR YOU TO, JUST, TALK TO
00:35:12.100 --> 00:35:14.210
THEM ABOUT WHAT THAT IS.
00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:18.170
AND FINAL THOUGHTS ARE YOURS,
00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:20.270
PLEASE, SIR.
00:35:20.270 --> 00:35:21.290
- ERWIN: YEAH.
00:35:22.160 --> 00:35:25.160
MATT AND LAURIE KNOW THIS IS AN
00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:26.240
INCREDIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE THING
00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:27.150
FOR ME.
00:35:27.150 --> 00:35:28.290
[LAUGHTER]
00:35:28.290 --> 00:35:29.180
- MATT: YES!
00:35:29.180 --> 00:35:30.060
- ERWIN: AND, YOU KNOW, THEY
00:35:30.060 --> 00:35:31.120
ENDLESSLY PUT ME ON THE SPOT.
00:35:31.120 --> 00:35:33.100
- ERWIN: AND SOME OF IT IS THAT
00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:37.280
I WAS THE LEAST LIKELY PERSON TO
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.200
YET AT THE SAME TIME, I WAS ALSO
00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:44.130
THE PERSON WHO DESPERATELY
00:35:44.130 --> 00:35:45.020
WANTED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS
00:35:45.020 --> 00:35:47.110
ABOUT LIFE, ABOUT GOD, ABOUT
00:35:47.110 --> 00:35:48.040
WHETHER THERE WAS ANY MEANING IN
00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:50.090
MY LIFE AT ALL.
00:35:50.090 --> 00:35:52.150
AND I FOUND IN THE MOST
00:35:52.170 --> 00:35:55.170
UNEXPECTED OF WAYS THAT, IN
00:35:55.170 --> 00:35:58.070
MOMENTS LIKE THIS, THERE'LL BE
00:35:58.070 --> 00:36:00.210
SOMEONE WHO'S ACTUALLY WATCHING
00:36:00.210 --> 00:36:01.270
AND SOMEONE WHO'S LISTENING.
00:36:01.270 --> 00:36:03.240
I'VE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM ALL
00:36:03.240 --> 00:36:06.210
OVER THE PLACE FROM PHDS AND
00:36:06.210 --> 00:36:08.020
INTELLECTUALS AND ACADEMICS AND
00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:10.150
ATHEISTS WHO HAVE SAID, "I WAS
00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:13.000
JUST CHANGING CHANNELS, AND THEN
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:14.230
I HEARD YOU TALKING, AND I DON'T
00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:18.030
KNOW WHY, BUT I STOPPED."
00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:19.010
AND MAYBE THAT'S YOU RIGHT
00:36:19.010 --> 00:36:20.000
NOW.
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.280
MAYBE YOU'RE SURPRISED YOU'RE
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.080
LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION
00:36:23.080 --> 00:36:23.290
RIGHT NOW, AND IT MAY BE THAT
00:36:23.290 --> 00:36:25.190
RIGHT NOW IN YOUR LIFE, YOU
00:36:25.190 --> 00:36:26.250
MIGHT ACTUALLY JUST BE AT THE
00:36:26.250 --> 00:36:28.090
END OF YOURSELF.
00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:28.270
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I FIND
00:36:28.270 --> 00:36:31.000
SO OFTENTIMES IS THAT WE CAN
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.090
LOOK SO GOOD TO OTHER PEOPLE,
00:36:32.090 --> 00:36:33.260
AND WE CAN LOOK SO TOGETHER AND
00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:36.100
SO PUT TOGETHER, BUT INSIDE
00:36:36.100 --> 00:36:38.190
WE'RE JUST FALLING APART, AND
00:36:38.190 --> 00:36:39.130
OUR SOULS ARE EMPTY, AND WE'RE
00:36:39.130 --> 00:36:41.010
JUST GASPING FOR BREATH, AND IF
00:36:41.010 --> 00:36:43.080
THAT'S YOU, I JUST WANT YOU TO
00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:44.200
KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THAT YOUR
00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:45.290
LIFE IS NOT AN ACCIDENT, THAT
00:36:45.290 --> 00:36:48.120
THE REASON THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS
00:36:48.120 --> 00:36:50.160
TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT,
00:36:50.160 --> 00:36:52.240
TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF YOUR
00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:54.050
LIFE IS THAT YOUR LIFE IS
00:36:54.050 --> 00:36:55.140
SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE, BUT IT
00:36:55.140 --> 00:36:57.140
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHILE YOU'RE
00:36:57.140 --> 00:36:59.200
DISCONNECTED FROM THE ONE WHO
00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:00.190
CREATED YOU.
00:37:00.190 --> 00:37:02.060
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE IS
00:37:02.060 --> 00:37:04.080
A GOD WHO SEES YOU, WHO KNOWS
00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:06.000
YOU, WHO VALUES YOU, WHO LOVES
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.220
YOU BECAUSE HE CREATED YOU IN
00:37:08.220 --> 00:37:10.020
HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS.
00:37:10.020 --> 00:37:11.150
HE CREATED YOU FOR A
00:37:11.150 --> 00:37:12.010
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
00:37:12.010 --> 00:37:13.020
AND THE REASON YOU LONG FOR
00:37:13.020 --> 00:37:15.020
LOVE AND THE REASON YOU LONG FOR
00:37:15.020 --> 00:37:16.100
ACCEPTANCE AND THE REASON WE ALL
00:37:16.100 --> 00:37:17.140
NEED TO BELONG IS BECAUSE WE'RE
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.280
CREATED BY A GOD WHO IS, IN HIS
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.150
VERY ESSENCE, LOVE, WHICH IS WHY
00:37:23.150 --> 00:37:24.100
JESUS CAME.
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.280
THE REASON JESUS STEPPED INTO
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.100
HUMAN HISTORY, THE REASON GOD
00:37:30.100 --> 00:37:31.160
TOOK ON FLESH AND BLOOD AND
00:37:31.160 --> 00:37:33.070
WALKED AMONG US IS THAT, WHEN
00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:34.040
IT'S ABOUT LOVE, YOU CANNOT SEND
00:37:34.040 --> 00:37:36.270
A LETTER OR JUST SEND A FRIEND
00:37:36.270 --> 00:37:38.100
OR SEND A MESSENGER.
00:37:38.100 --> 00:37:40.110
GOD STEPPED INTO HUMAN HISTORY
00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:41.280
BECAUSE GOD'S ENTIRE INTENTION
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.240
TOWARDS YOU IS TO WIN YOU WITH
00:37:43.240 --> 00:37:45.160
HIS LOVE.
00:37:45.160 --> 00:37:47.280
JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED, BURIED, AND
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.230
RAISED FROM THE DEAD, AND PEOPLE
00:37:49.230 --> 00:37:51.090
ASK ME ALL THE TIME, "WHY WOULD
00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:52.010
GOD HAVE TO BE CRUCIFIED TO
00:37:52.080 --> 00:37:55.080
FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS, TO
00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:56.180
FORGIVE US OF OUR BROKENNESS, TO
00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.040
HEAL US?"
00:37:58.040 --> 00:38:00.170
I SAID, "BECAUSE THE GREATEST
00:38:00.170 --> 00:38:01.110
ACT OF LOVE IS SACRIFICE."
00:38:01.110 --> 00:38:03.140
IT MAKES SENSE THAT,
00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:05.030
IF THIS IS ALL ABOUT LOVE,
00:38:05.030 --> 00:38:05.260
THAT WHAT IT WOULD DEMAND
00:38:05.260 --> 00:38:07.210
OF GOD IS SACRIFICE.
00:38:07.220 --> 00:38:10.220
AND HE GAVE HIMSELF FOR US SO
00:38:11.150 --> 00:38:14.150
THAT WE WOULD NEVER HAVE TO
00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:15.240
QUESTION WHETHER WE ARE LOVED.
00:38:15.240 --> 00:38:17.170
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT JESUS IS
00:38:17.170 --> 00:38:19.250
THAT HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR YOU OR
00:38:19.250 --> 00:38:21.290
FOR ME TO EARN LOVE.
00:38:21.290 --> 00:38:24.170
HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR YOU OR FOR
00:38:24.170 --> 00:38:25.110
ME TO DESERVE LOVE.
00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:27.080
HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR US TO GIVE
00:38:27.080 --> 00:38:28.150
OURSELVES IN THE GREAT
00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:29.250
SACRIFICE.
00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:31.140
HE DID FOR US WHAT WE COULD NOT
00:38:31.140 --> 00:38:33.070
DO FOR OURSELVES, AND IT WOULD
00:38:33.070 --> 00:38:34.240
BE BEAUTIFUL ENOUGH IF GOD DIED
00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:35.280
FOR US, BUT THE STORY DOESN'T
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.280
END THERE.
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.200
HE WAS CRUCIFIED, BURIED, AND
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.000
RAISED FROM THE DEAD SO THAT WE
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.130
COULD KNOW THAT HIS LOVE IS MORE
00:38:43.130 --> 00:38:45.000
POWERFUL THAN DEATH, THAT HIS
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.170
LOVE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN OUR
00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:48.220
SIN, MORE POWERFUL THAN OUR
00:38:48.220 --> 00:38:50.040
BROKENNESS, MORE POWERFUL THAN
00:38:50.040 --> 00:38:51.220
EMPTINESS INSIDE OF US.
00:38:54.160 --> 00:38:57.160
AND SO IF YOU'RE LISTENING RIGHT
00:38:57.160 --> 00:38:58.080
THIS MOMENT, I JUST WANNA
00:38:58.080 --> 00:38:59.120
CHALLENGE YOU.
00:38:59.120 --> 00:38:59.260
WHEREVER YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE IN
00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:01.060
YOUR LIVING ROOM OR IN YOUR
00:39:01.060 --> 00:39:02.090
BEDROOM OR IF YOU'RE JUST
00:39:02.090 --> 00:39:03.070
WATCHING SOMEHOW ONLINE, I WANNA
00:39:03.070 --> 00:39:04.220
CHALLENGE YOU IN THIS MOMENT
00:39:04.220 --> 00:39:06.130
JUST TO PAUSE AND JUST ALLOW
00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:09.030
JESUS TO MEET YOU WHERE YOU ARE
00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:11.090
AND JUST WHISPER A PRAYER THAT
00:39:11.090 --> 00:39:12.000
INVITES HIM INTO YOUR LIFE
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.040
BECAUSE, IF YOU WISH FOR A
00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:16.080
PRAYER THAT SAYS, "JESUS, I GIVE
00:39:16.080 --> 00:39:18.040
YOU MY LIFE," I GUARANTEE YOU,
00:39:18.040 --> 00:39:19.050
GOD WILL ENVELOP YOU WITH HIS
00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:20.020
LOVE.
00:39:20.020 --> 00:39:23.010
HE WILL WRAP YOU UP IN HIS
00:39:23.010 --> 00:39:24.060
PRESENCE.
00:39:24.060 --> 00:39:25.210
YOU WILL BELONG TO HIM, AND THAT
00:39:25.210 --> 00:39:27.020
EMPTINESS INSIDE OF YOU WILL BE
00:39:27.020 --> 00:39:28.130
FILLED WITH HIS PRESENCE.
00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:29.250
HE IS THE GOD WHO FILLS YOU WITH
00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:31.090
LOVE, WHO FILLS YOU WITH LIFE,
00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:32.270
AND ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE A LIFE OF
00:39:33.020 --> 00:39:36.020
FREEDOM.
00:39:36.120 --> 00:39:39.120
AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT
00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:40.240
MISS THAT GIFT THAT GOD HAS
00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:41.200
PROVIDED FOR YOU.
00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:44.270
- MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
00:39:44.270 --> 00:39:47.030
THERE'S A NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:47.250
IF YOU WANNA JUST SIMPLY CALL
00:39:47.250 --> 00:39:48.170
THAT NUMBER AND TALK WITH
00:39:48.170 --> 00:39:49.270
SOMEBODY, DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
00:39:49.270 --> 00:39:52.000
LET'S GO BACK INSIDE THE BIG
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:52.230
ARENA.
00:39:52.290 --> 00:39:55.290
- ERWIN: SO THERE'S THIS MOMENT
00:39:55.290 --> 00:39:56.210
IN 2 KINGS WHERE A WOMAN WAS
00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:01.160
MARRIED TO A MAN WHO LIVED FOR
00:40:01.160 --> 00:40:02.270
GOD, AND THEN HE DIED.
00:40:03.250 --> 00:40:06.250
AND HE LEFT THEM BANKRUPT, AND
00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:08.260
NOW HER SONS ARE GOING TO BE
00:40:08.260 --> 00:40:10.190
SOLD AS SLAVES.
00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:12.200
AND THEY GO TO THE PROPHET
00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:16.010
ELISHA FOR HELP.
00:40:16.010 --> 00:40:16.200
2 KINGS CHAPTER 4: "THE WIFE OF
00:40:19.250 --> 00:40:22.250
A MAN FROM THE COMPANY OF THE
00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:23.250
PROPHETS CRIED OUT TO ELISHA,
00:40:23.250 --> 00:40:24.160
'YOUR SERVANT MY HUSBAND IS
00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:26.220
AND YOU KNOW HE REVERED THE
00:40:30.180 --> 00:40:31.280
LORD, AND NOW HIS CREDITOR
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.020
IS COMING TO TAKE MY
00:40:33.020 --> 00:40:33.240
TWO BOYS AS HIS SLAVES.'
00:40:33.240 --> 00:40:36.150
ELISHA REPLIED TO HER,
00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:37.020
'HOW CAN I HELP YOU?
00:40:37.020 --> 00:40:38.180
TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN
00:40:38.180 --> 00:40:40.120
YOUR HOUSE?'
00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:42.230
'YOUR SERVANT HAS NOTHING THERE
00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:44.210
AT ALL,' SHE SAID, 'EXCEPT A
00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:45.210
SMALL JAR OF OLIVE OIL.'
00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:46.280
ELISHA SAID,
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.260
'GO AROUND AND ASK ALL
00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:49.070
YOUR NEIGHBORS FOR EMPTY JARS.
00:40:49.070 --> 00:40:51.000
DON'T ASK FOR JUST A FEW.
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.090
THEN GO INSIDE AND SHUT THE DOOR
00:40:53.090 --> 00:40:55.020
BEHIND YOU AND YOUR SONS.
00:40:55.020 --> 00:40:56.260
POUR OIL INTO THE JARS.
00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:59.040
AS EACH IS FILLED, PUT IT TO ONE
00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:00.150
SIDE.'
00:41:00.150 --> 00:41:02.050
SHE LEFT HIM AND SHUT THE
00:41:02.060 --> 00:41:05.060
DOOR BEHIND HER AND HER SONS,
00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:06.170
AND THEY BROUGHT THE JARS TO HER
00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:09.240
AND SHE KEPT POURING."
00:41:09.240 --> 00:41:12.190
AND SHE KEPT POURING AND POURING
00:41:12.190 --> 00:41:13.150
AND POURING AND POURING.
00:41:13.150 --> 00:41:14.170
"WHEN ALL THE JARS WERE FULL,
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:18.000
SHE SAID TO HER SON, BRING ME
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.160
ANOTHER ONE.'
00:41:19.160 --> 00:41:20.280
BUT HE REPLIED,
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:21.270
'THERE IS NOT A JAR LEFT.'
00:41:21.270 --> 00:41:24.150
THEN THE OIL STOPPED FLOWING.
00:41:25.220 --> 00:41:28.220
SHE WENT AND TOLD THE MAN OF
00:41:28.220 --> 00:41:31.020
GOD, AND HE SAID, 'GO, SELL THE
00:41:31.020 --> 00:41:33.250
OIL AND PAY YOUR DEBTS.
00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:37.040
YOU AND YOUR SONS CAN LIVE ON
00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:38.140
WHAT IS LEFT.'"
00:41:38.210 --> 00:41:41.210
I THINK THIS MOMENT IS SO
00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:44.140
CRITICAL FOR OUR OWN FAITH.
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:48.000
HERE'S A WOMAN WHO'S AT THE END
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:48.220
OF HERSELF, WHO DOESN'T KNOW
00:41:48.220 --> 00:41:50.130
WHAT TO DO.
00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:51.200
BUT INSTEAD OF BECOMING
00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:52.110
EMBITTERED TOWARD GOD, SHE RUNS
00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:53.190
TO THE MAN OF GOD AND SAYS,
00:41:53.190 --> 00:41:55.010
"THIS IS WHERE I'M AT.
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.000
THIS IS WHERE MY LIFE IS.
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.140
THIS IS WHAT I'VE COME TO."
00:42:00.140 --> 00:42:02.240
AND I LOVE WHAT HE SAYS TO HER:
00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:04.040
"HOW CAN I HELP YOU?"
00:42:04.040 --> 00:42:04.220
SHE GOES, "I JUST EXPLAINED TO
00:42:04.220 --> 00:42:06.070
YOU!
00:42:06.070 --> 00:42:07.180
WE'RE BROKE!
00:42:07.180 --> 00:42:09.220
OUR CREDITOR IS TAKING AWAY MY
00:42:09.220 --> 00:42:10.130
BOYS!
00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:11.200
THEY'RE GONNA BECOME SLAVES!"
00:42:11.200 --> 00:42:13.110
WHY DOES ELISHA SAY, "HOW CAN I
00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:14.240
HELP YOU?"
00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:17.070
BECAUSE GOD IS ALWAYS GOING TO
00:42:17.070 --> 00:42:19.050
ASK YOU, "WHAT DO YOU WANT?
00:42:22.030 --> 00:42:25.030
HOW CAN I HELP YOU?"
00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:26.250
AND THEN HE SAYS, "ALL RIGHT.
00:42:26.250 --> 00:42:27.160
TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN
00:42:27.160 --> 00:42:28.190
YOUR HOUSE?"
00:42:28.190 --> 00:42:30.010
AND SHE SAYS, "I HAVE NOTHING AT
00:42:30.010 --> 00:42:31.050
ALL," WHICH I THINK IS THE
00:42:31.050 --> 00:42:32.230
PROBLEM FOR SO MANY OF US!
00:42:32.230 --> 00:42:35.190
WE JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE
00:42:35.190 --> 00:42:36.110
ENOUGH FOR GOD TO USE.
00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:39.050
I LOVE THE FACT THAT HIS FIRST
00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:40.220
QUESTION TO HER IS "WHAT DO YOU
00:42:40.220 --> 00:42:41.290
HAVE?"
00:42:41.290 --> 00:42:42.180
AND SHE SAYS, "NOTHING."
00:42:42.180 --> 00:42:44.200
THAT'S WHAT-- WE THINK THAT.
00:42:44.200 --> 00:42:46.130
YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:48.280
GOD WANTS THAT SOMETHING.
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.020
HE WANTS YOU TO TAKE THAT
00:42:50.020 --> 00:42:52.020
SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE AND MAKE
00:42:52.020 --> 00:42:53.190
IT EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.
00:42:53.190 --> 00:42:56.050
SO YOU GIVE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
00:42:56.050 --> 00:42:57.070
TO GOD SO THAT HE CAN GIVE YOU
00:42:57.070 --> 00:42:58.010
EVERYTHING HE HAS.
00:42:58.010 --> 00:42:59.040
THERE'S GONNA BE GREAT EXCHANGE
00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:00.030
HERE.
00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:02.120
SHE SAYS, "I HAVE NOTHING AT ALL
00:43:02.120 --> 00:43:03.040
EXCEPT A SMALL JAR OF OLIVE
00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:04.200
OIL."
00:43:04.200 --> 00:43:05.130
HE SAYS, "ALL RIGHT.
00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:06.020
I WANT YOU TO GO TO ALL YOUR
00:43:06.020 --> 00:43:07.050
NEIGHBORS, AND I WANT YOU TO ASK
00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:08.080
THEM FOR ALL THEIR EMPTY JARS,"
00:43:08.080 --> 00:43:09.090
WHICH IS NOT REALLY HELPFUL, BUT
00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:10.010
SHE GOES TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
00:43:10.010 --> 00:43:12.220
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY SHE
00:43:12.220 --> 00:43:13.130
GOES TO.
00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:14.070
AND SHE STARTS ASKING FOR ALL
00:43:14.070 --> 00:43:15.140
THE EMPTY JARS.
00:43:15.140 --> 00:43:16.020
AND HE DOES GIVE HER ONE BIT OF
00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:17.120
INSIGHT: "DON'T ASK FOR JUST A
00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:18.150
FEW."
00:43:18.150 --> 00:43:21.130
SEE, I LOVE THIS 'CAUSE
00:43:21.130 --> 00:43:22.030
ELISHA KNEW GOD.
00:43:22.030 --> 00:43:24.140
HE KNEW HOW GENEROUS GOD WAS.
00:43:24.140 --> 00:43:26.290
HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT GOD WANTED
00:43:26.290 --> 00:43:29.070
TO DO IN HER LIFE, AND HE SAID,
00:43:29.070 --> 00:43:30.200
"GO ASK FOR EMPTY JARS, BUT
00:43:30.200 --> 00:43:32.060
DON'T JUST ASK FOR A FEW.
00:43:32.060 --> 00:43:33.170
GO GET AS MANY JARS AS YOU CAN."
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.000
SEE, I THINK SO MANY OF US ARE
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.270
CONVINCED THAT GOD CAN BARELY
00:43:38.270 --> 00:43:40.040
FILL OUR ONE, SMALL JAR.
00:43:40.040 --> 00:43:42.230
HE SAID, "GO GET ALL THE EMPTY
00:43:42.230 --> 00:43:45.190
JARS YOU CAN.
00:43:45.190 --> 00:43:47.210
PULL 'EM TOGETHER, AND THEN LOCK
00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:49.210
YOURSELF IN," SO THAT NO ONE CAN
00:43:49.210 --> 00:43:51.120
SAY ANYONE DID THIS, BUT GOD,
00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:53.260
"AND TAKE THAT LITTLE BIT OF OIL
00:43:53.260 --> 00:43:55.080
YOU HAVE AND START POURING IT
00:43:55.080 --> 00:43:56.120
INTO ALL THOSE EMPTY JARS."
00:43:56.120 --> 00:43:59.060
AND SHE POURED, AND SHE POURED,
00:43:59.060 --> 00:43:59.280
AND SHE POURED,
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.160
AND BY THAT TIME, SHE GOT IT:
00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:03.190
GOD IS A GENEROUS GOD!
00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:05.060
GOD DOES MORE THAN WE COULD EVER
00:44:05.060 --> 00:44:06.070
ASK OR IMAGINE!
00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:07.260
THIS IS THE KIND OF GOD THAT WE
00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:08.180
SERVE!
00:44:08.180 --> 00:44:10.210
AND SHE JUST KEPT POURING AND
00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:11.190
POURING AND POURING, AND FINALLY
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:13.200
SHE SAYS TO HER SON, "BRING ME
00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:14.210
ANOTHER JAR!"
00:44:14.210 --> 00:44:17.080
I WOULDN'T WANNA BE HER SON WHEN
00:44:17.080 --> 00:44:18.000
HE SAID, "THAT'S ALL WE GOT."
00:44:20.100 --> 00:44:23.100
BECAUSE BY THAT TIME, SHE
00:44:23.100 --> 00:44:24.170
FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THE CHARACTER
00:44:24.170 --> 00:44:25.100
OF GOD.
00:44:25.100 --> 00:44:27.050
SHE FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THE
00:44:27.050 --> 00:44:27.240
GENEROSITY OF GOD.
00:44:27.240 --> 00:44:29.220
SHE FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT GOD
00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:30.200
WANTED TO PROSPER HER AND TO
00:44:30.200 --> 00:44:31.150
BLESS HER AND TO POUR INTO HER
00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:32.230
LIFE.
00:44:32.230 --> 00:44:34.070
[APPLAUSE]
00:44:35.030 --> 00:44:38.030
SO MY WIFE, KIM, AND I,
00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:40.010
WE SPENT 10 YEARS WORKING
00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:41.140
WITH THE URBAN POOR.
00:44:41.140 --> 00:44:42.240
WE WENT TO THE HIGHEST
00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:43.170
CRIME-RATE/MURDER-RATE AREA OF
00:44:43.170 --> 00:44:46.070
THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME IN
00:44:46.070 --> 00:44:47.220
DALLAS, AND WE WENT TO A ZIP
00:44:47.220 --> 00:44:49.170
CODE THAT WAS SO VIOLENT THAT
00:44:49.170 --> 00:44:50.230
THE CITY OFFICERS WERE NOT
00:44:50.230 --> 00:44:52.220
ALLOWED TO GO DOWN THERE.
00:44:52.220 --> 00:44:55.050
I SPENT MY LIFE WITH DRUG
00:44:55.050 --> 00:44:57.130
DEALERS AND DRUG ADDICTS AND
00:44:57.130 --> 00:44:58.150
PROSTITUTES AND DRUG CARTELS.
00:44:58.190 --> 00:45:01.210
AND THERE WAS NO FAME OR
00:45:01.210 --> 00:45:02.150
FANFARE.
00:45:02.170 --> 00:45:05.170
NO ONE SAW WHAT WE WERE DOING
00:45:05.170 --> 00:45:06.280
EXCEPT GOD.
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.010
AND WE WERE GONNA BUY SOME LAND
00:45:09.010 --> 00:45:10.130
AND TRY TO PUT A LITTLE CHURCH
00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:12.090
BUILDING THERE.
00:45:12.100 --> 00:45:15.100
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST CHURCH
00:45:15.100 --> 00:45:17.230
THAT WAS PUT INTO THE CITY IN
00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:19.070
THE UNITED STATES AFTER DECADES
00:45:19.070 --> 00:45:20.230
OF WHITE FLIGHT, PEOPLE LEAVING
00:45:20.230 --> 00:45:23.160
THE CENTER OF THE CITY.
00:45:23.160 --> 00:45:25.160
AND I SAW THIS PERFECT PIECE OF
00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:28.210
LAND.
00:45:28.210 --> 00:45:29.290
THERE WAS NO BUILDING ON IT.
00:45:29.290 --> 00:45:31.220
I THOUGHT, "GOD, JUST SAVE THIS
00:45:31.220 --> 00:45:32.140
LAND FOR US."
00:45:32.140 --> 00:45:33.030
IT WAS PERFECT.
00:45:33.030 --> 00:45:34.160
AS I STARTED WALKING ON THIS
00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:35.160
LAND AND I WOULD PRAY THE WORDS
00:45:35.160 --> 00:45:37.040
IN JOSHUA THAT "EVERYWHERE THE
00:45:37.040 --> 00:45:38.210
SOLE OF YOUR FOOT TOUCHES,
00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:40.140
THAT'S YOURS."
00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:41.110
SO I WOULD WALK ON THAT
00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:41.290
PROPERTY, AND PEOPLE
00:45:41.290 --> 00:45:43.130
THOUGHT I WAS OUT OF MY MIND.
00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:44.040
I WOULD JUST WALK RIGHT ON THAT
00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:45.110
PROPERTY AND SAY, "THIS IS MINE.
00:45:45.110 --> 00:45:46.060
THIS IS MINE.
00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:48.080
WE'RE CLAIMING THIS.
00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:49.040
GOD, YOU'RE GIVING THIS TO US."
00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:49.260
I REMEMBER, ONE TIME, THIS MAN
00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:50.210
CAME UP TO ME.
00:45:50.210 --> 00:45:51.120
HE WAS HUGE, AND HE SAID,
00:45:51.120 --> 00:45:52.120
"WHAT'RE YOU DOING?"
00:45:52.120 --> 00:45:54.100
I SAID, "I'M WALKING ON THIS
00:45:54.100 --> 00:45:55.000
PROPERTY, AND I'M ASKING GOD TO
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:55.230
GIVE IT TO US."
00:45:55.230 --> 00:45:57.080
HE GOES, "WELL, IF YOU'LL
00:45:57.080 --> 00:45:59.040
PRAY FOR DIRT, WOULD YOU PRAY
00:45:59.040 --> 00:45:59.250
FOR ME?"
00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:00.120
AND SO I PRAYED FOR HIM, AND IT
00:46:00.120 --> 00:46:01.120
BECAME THIS PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
00:46:01.120 --> 00:46:03.150
WOULD MEET ME.
00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:04.220
SO I WENT TO AN ASSOCIATION OF
00:46:04.220 --> 00:46:06.010
CHURCHES THAT WE WERE CONNECTED
00:46:06.010 --> 00:46:07.150
TO, AND I CONVINCED THEM TO BUY
00:46:07.150 --> 00:46:08.200
THIS PROPERTY FOR US.
00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:09.170
IT WASN'T THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT
00:46:09.170 --> 00:46:11.100
AT THE TIME, IT SEEMED SO HUGE.
00:46:11.100 --> 00:46:13.040
AND I CONVINCED THEM BECAUSE I
00:46:13.040 --> 00:46:15.030
SAID, "LOOK IT.
00:46:15.030 --> 00:46:15.260
IF WE DON'T SUCCEED, IT'S 'CAUSE
00:46:15.260 --> 00:46:16.180
YOU DON'T THINK OUR CHURCH IS
00:46:16.180 --> 00:46:17.140
GONNA MAKE IT, RIGHT?"
00:46:17.140 --> 00:46:19.260
HE GOES, "NO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA
00:46:19.260 --> 00:46:20.230
MAKE IT."
00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:21.070
I SAID, "THAT'S OKAY.
00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:21.240
IF WE DON'T MAKE IT, YOU CAN
00:46:21.240 --> 00:46:23.080
SELL THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SO
00:46:23.080 --> 00:46:23.290
MUCH MORE MONEY ON IT 'CAUSE,
00:46:23.290 --> 00:46:24.200
AFTER ALL, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
00:46:24.200 --> 00:46:25.120
IN REAL ESTATE, RIGHT?"
00:46:25.120 --> 00:46:27.100
AND...THAT-- THAT'S A JOKE.
00:46:27.100 --> 00:46:29.130
[LAUGHTER]
00:46:29.130 --> 00:46:32.020
SO HE BOUGHT THE
00:46:32.020 --> 00:46:33.220
PROPERTY FOR US, AND THEN, WHEN
00:46:33.220 --> 00:46:34.140
THEY DID ALL THE TESTING, THEY
00:46:34.140 --> 00:46:35.050
DID TWO CORE SAMPLES THAT WENT
00:46:35.050 --> 00:46:36.020
SOMETHING LIKE 25 FEET DEEP, AND
00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:37.080
THEY REALIZED THAT I HAD LED
00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:39.040
THEM TO BUY A LANDFILL.
00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:42.200
THEY WENT 25 FEET DEEP AND NEVER
00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:43.150
FOUND SOIL.
00:46:44.170 --> 00:46:47.170
NOW, I WAS IN MY LATE 20S, AND I
00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:48.260
WAS SO NEW TO FAITH, AND I WAS
00:46:48.260 --> 00:46:51.010
SO CONFUSED WHY GOD WOULD DO
00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:52.040
THIS, AND I FELT SO INADEQUATE.
00:46:52.200 --> 00:46:55.200
IN FACT, I WALKED TO THIS MAN'S
00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:56.140
OFFICE.
00:46:56.140 --> 00:46:58.010
I NEVER HEARD, LIKE, A BELIEVER
00:46:58.010 --> 00:47:00.050
USE ANY, LIKE, PROFANE LANGUAGE
00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:02.080
BEFORE, BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST
00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:04.000
TIME.
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:04.190
[LAUGHTER]
00:47:04.190 --> 00:47:06.230
AND HE WENT ON TO TELL ME,
00:47:06.230 --> 00:47:07.220
"YOU KNOW THAT PIECE OF,
00:47:07.220 --> 00:47:08.120
YOU KNOW, GARBAGE YOU TALKED
00:47:08.120 --> 00:47:09.220
US INTO BUYING?"
00:47:09.220 --> 00:47:11.290
AND HE GOES, "WELL, WE'LL NEVER
00:47:11.290 --> 00:47:14.150
WORK WITH YOU AGAIN."
00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:16.160
I LED THEM TO SPEND THEIR
00:47:16.180 --> 00:47:19.180
MONEY TO BUY A LANDFILL,
00:47:19.180 --> 00:47:20.060
AND I FELT SO ASHAMED AND SO
00:47:20.060 --> 00:47:22.240
INADEQUATE, AND I THOUGHT,
00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:25.050
"THIS IS MY LIFE, MY STORY."
00:47:25.050 --> 00:47:27.260
AND OTHER PEOPLE WERE
00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:29.070
BUILDING THESE GREAT CHURCHES
00:47:29.070 --> 00:47:30.290
AND DOING THESE GREAT WORKS, AND
00:47:31.090 --> 00:47:34.090
I'M THE PASTOR OF A LANDFILL.
00:47:34.090 --> 00:47:35.000
I'M THE PASTOR OF THE DUMP.
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.140
[LAUGHTER]
00:47:37.140 --> 00:47:39.110
AND IT WAS SO FRUSTRATING TO ME.
00:47:39.110 --> 00:47:40.200
AND SO I WENT TO OUR SMALL
00:47:40.200 --> 00:47:41.220
LITTLE CONGREGATION.
00:47:41.220 --> 00:47:42.240
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:44.260
I SAID, "WE BOUGHT A LANDFILL.
00:47:44.260 --> 00:47:45.270
WE CAN'T SELL IT 'CAUSE NOW WE
00:47:45.270 --> 00:47:47.030
CAN'T LIE TO ANYONE.
00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:48.240
THE PEOPLE WHO SOLD TO US LIED
00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:49.220
TO US, AND WE CAN'T LIE TO
00:47:49.220 --> 00:47:52.000
ANYONE, SO WE'RE STUCK WITH A
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.230
LANDFILL."
00:47:52.230 --> 00:47:54.130
AND THIS HANDFUL OF PEOPLE--
00:47:54.130 --> 00:47:55.260
AND I JUST SAID, "ALL WE CAN DO
00:47:55.260 --> 00:47:56.180
IS PRAY THAT GOD WOULD PERFORM
00:47:56.180 --> 00:47:57.290
A MIRACLE."
00:47:57.290 --> 00:48:00.040
YOU SEE, I KNOW WHAT WAS GOING
00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:01.140
ON WITH THESE TWO BLIND MEN.
00:48:01.140 --> 00:48:03.150
THEY WERE DESPERATE, AND SO THEY
00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:04.130
PRAYED A BIG PRAYER.
00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:06.130
SEE, I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH
00:48:06.130 --> 00:48:07.040
THIS WIDOW.
00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:08.080
SHE WAS DESPERATE, AND SO SHE
00:48:08.080 --> 00:48:09.020
PRAYED A BIG PRAYER.
00:48:09.020 --> 00:48:11.270
AND I WONDERED, "IF WE GET ANGRY
00:48:11.270 --> 00:48:13.210
WITH GOD WHEN HE PUTS US INTO
00:48:13.210 --> 00:48:14.120
DESPERATE CIRCUMSTANCES-- AND WE
00:48:14.120 --> 00:48:16.120
DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S ONLY IN
00:48:16.120 --> 00:48:18.160
OUR DESPERATION THAT WE START
00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:20.080
BELIEVING GOD TO BE WHO HE
00:48:20.080 --> 00:48:22.000
ACTUALLY IS!
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.280
[APPLAUSE]
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.210
SO WE PRAYED AND WE
00:48:25.210 --> 00:48:26.260
PRAYED AND WE PRAYED, AND PEOPLE
00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:28.110
WOULD COME FROM OTHER STATES AND
00:48:28.110 --> 00:48:29.030
SAY, "HEY, WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO
00:48:29.030 --> 00:48:30.110
WITH THAT LANDFILL?"
00:48:30.110 --> 00:48:31.110
WE WERE FAMOUS AS THE CHURCH
00:48:31.110 --> 00:48:32.160
WITH A LANDFILL.
00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:33.100
[LAUGHTER]
00:48:33.100 --> 00:48:35.140
AND THEN ONE DAY,
00:48:35.140 --> 00:48:36.110
ONE OF THE LADIES IN OUR
00:48:36.110 --> 00:48:37.290
CHURCH-- I SAID, "HEY, GUYS,
00:48:37.290 --> 00:48:39.160
LET'S PRAY FOR THE LANDFILL."
00:48:39.160 --> 00:48:42.070
AND WE HAD THESE GUESTS FROM THE
00:48:42.070 --> 00:48:43.110
OUTSIDE, AND ONE OF THEM ASKED
00:48:43.110 --> 00:48:44.080
THAT QUESTION AGAIN: "WHAT'RE
00:48:44.080 --> 00:48:45.140
YOU GUYS GONNA DO WITH THE
00:48:45.140 --> 00:48:46.070
LANDFILL?"
00:48:46.070 --> 00:48:47.260
I JUST COULDN'T TAKE THAT
00:48:47.260 --> 00:48:48.150
QUESTION ANYMORE.
00:48:48.150 --> 00:48:49.140
I COULD FEEL THE CONDESCENSION.
00:48:49.140 --> 00:48:50.240
I COULD FEEL PEOPLE LAUGHING AT
00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:51.180
ME.
00:48:52.090 --> 00:48:55.090
AND THIS LITTLE LADY SAID, "OH,
00:48:55.090 --> 00:48:56.010
WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF IT.
00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:57.100
WE'VE ASKED GOD TO TURN IT INTO
00:48:57.100 --> 00:48:58.160
SOIL."
00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:01.140
AND WHEN SHE SAID THAT, I
00:49:01.140 --> 00:49:02.270
THOUGHT, "YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT!"
00:49:02.270 --> 00:49:05.180
[LAUGHTER]
00:49:05.180 --> 00:49:06.170
"WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT!
00:49:06.170 --> 00:49:08.070
OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
00:49:08.070 --> 00:49:08.270
PRAYING!"
00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:10.000
SO I WENT BACK TO THE
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:10.230
ASSOCIATION.
00:49:10.230 --> 00:49:11.210
I SAID, "I NEED YOU TO DO A
00:49:11.210 --> 00:49:13.020
THIRD CORE SAMPLE."
00:49:13.020 --> 00:49:14.120
HE GOES, "WHY?"
00:49:14.120 --> 00:49:15.150
I SAID, "I JUST NEED YOU TO DO A
00:49:15.150 --> 00:49:16.140
THIRD CORE SAMPLE.
00:49:16.140 --> 00:49:17.040
JUST TRUST ME."
00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:18.030
AND HE GOES, "SON--"
00:49:18.030 --> 00:49:19.190
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME
00:49:19.190 --> 00:49:20.100
"SON."
00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:20.290
[LAUGHTER]
00:49:20.290 --> 00:49:23.040
"SON, WE'VE DONE TWO CORE
00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:24.050
SAMPLES.
00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:24.260
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE
00:49:24.260 --> 00:49:25.230
LOST BECAUSE OF YOU?"
00:49:25.230 --> 00:49:26.280
I SAID, "YOU'VE LOST SO MUCH
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.020
MONEY.
00:49:28.020 --> 00:49:29.070
COULDN'T YOU JUST WASTE ANOTHER
00:49:29.070 --> 00:49:30.130
3.000 ON ONE MORE CORE SAMPLE?"
00:49:30.130 --> 00:49:33.090
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT HE DID.
00:49:33.090 --> 00:49:35.070
AND I'M TELLING YOU, I'M
00:49:35.070 --> 00:49:36.170
STANDING BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT,
00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:38.060
WHEN THEY TOOK THAT THIRD CORE
00:49:38.060 --> 00:49:39.260
SAMPLE, THAT LAND THAT WAS A
00:49:39.260 --> 00:49:41.220
LANDFILL CAME OUT SOIL!
00:49:41.240 --> 00:49:44.240
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:49:50.270 --> 00:49:53.270
I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED
00:49:53.270 --> 00:49:54.160
BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY.
00:49:54.160 --> 00:49:56.150
AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE PUT THAT
00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:58.150
LITTLE BUILDING RIGHT IN THE
00:49:58.150 --> 00:49:59.140
MIDDLE OF SOUTH DALLAS IN THE
00:49:59.140 --> 00:50:00.090
HIGHEST CRIME-RATE, HIGHEST
00:50:00.090 --> 00:50:01.060
MURDER-RATE AREA OF THE ENTIRE
00:50:01.060 --> 00:50:03.160
UNITED STATES, AND WE PUT THAT
00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:04.170
CROSS ON TOP OF THAT LITTLE
00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:06.010
BUILDING, IT WAS OUR DECLARATION
00:50:06.010 --> 00:50:08.200
THAT, IF WE GIVE GOD OUR EMPTY
00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:14.050
JARS WITH JUST THE SMALLEST
00:50:14.050 --> 00:50:15.090
AMOUNT OF OIL, AND THEN WE ASK
00:50:15.090 --> 00:50:16.080
HIM FOR GREAT THINGS, HE WILL
00:50:16.080 --> 00:50:18.040
SHOW UP AND BE THE GREAT GOD!
00:50:18.040 --> 00:50:20.000
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:50:20.270 --> 00:50:23.270
IT'S TIME!
00:50:23.270 --> 00:50:26.000
[APPLAUSE]
00:50:27.270 --> 00:50:30.270
BE CAREFUL NOT TO
00:50:30.270 --> 00:50:31.280
ASK TOO SMALL A THING.
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.140
IT WAS VALENTINE'S DAY.
00:50:35.040 --> 00:50:38.040
I KNOW I SHOULD'VE WOKEN UP ON
00:50:38.040 --> 00:50:40.280
VALENTINE'S DAY, THINKING ABOUT
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:41.200
MY WIFE, AND I DID LATER.
00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:44.110
[LAUGHTER]
00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:46.270
BUT I WOKE UP THAT MORNING
00:50:46.270 --> 00:50:47.290
BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET TO
00:50:47.290 --> 00:50:50.060
MOSAIC BECAUSE THE ROADS WERE
00:50:50.060 --> 00:50:51.120
CLOSED, AND SO WE COULDN'T
00:50:51.120 --> 00:50:52.060
GATHER THAT MORNING.
00:50:56.110 --> 00:50:59.110
AND I HEARD-- IT WAS AS IF THE
00:50:59.110 --> 00:51:01.010
VOICE OF GOD JUST SAY TO ME,
00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:04.230
"ERWIN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
00:51:04.230 --> 00:51:05.230
WANT, OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO
00:51:05.230 --> 00:51:06.250
WANDER AIMLESSLY ALL YOUR LIFE,
00:51:06.290 --> 00:51:09.290
WONDERING WHY I NEVER WORKED IN
00:51:10.220 --> 00:51:13.220
YOUR LIFE THE WAY I COULD'VE
00:51:13.220 --> 00:51:14.150
WORKED IN YOUR LIFE?"
00:51:14.150 --> 00:51:16.240
SEE, I THINK THE MOST PAINFUL
00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:17.150
QUESTION YOU ASK AN 8-YEAR-OLD
00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:19.150
IS "WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE WHEN
00:51:19.150 --> 00:51:20.070
YOU GROW UP?"
00:51:20.070 --> 00:51:21.230
HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
00:51:21.230 --> 00:51:22.140
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW.
00:51:22.220 --> 00:51:25.220
BUT IF YOU WANT GOD TO DO GREAT
00:51:25.220 --> 00:51:27.250
THINGS IN YOUR LIFE, YOU BETTER
00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:29.010
SIT DOWN, AND YOU BETTER LET GOD
00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:30.210
CHANGE YOUR HEART AND PUT HIS
00:51:30.210 --> 00:51:32.260
DESIRES INTO YOUR FIRE AND KNOW
00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:34.130
WHAT YOU WANT.
00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:39.110
AND I WOKE UP THAT MORNING, AND
00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:40.030
I SAID, "GOD, I WANT US TO HAVE
00:51:40.030 --> 00:51:42.270
A CONVERSATION WITH THE WORLD.
00:51:42.270 --> 00:51:44.200
THAT'S WHAT I WANT.
00:51:44.200 --> 00:51:46.210
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A
00:51:46.210 --> 00:51:47.110
CONVERSATION WITH THE WORLD
00:51:47.110 --> 00:51:48.260
ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL YOUR SON,
00:51:48.260 --> 00:51:49.220
JESUS, IS."
00:51:49.220 --> 00:51:51.020
AND I SAID, "AND THERE'S A
00:51:51.020 --> 00:51:52.250
PRACTICAL 'ASK,' HERE, GOD.
00:51:52.250 --> 00:51:55.200
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY
00:51:55.200 --> 00:51:57.170
4K EQUIPMENT FROM SONY, AND IT'S
00:51:57.170 --> 00:52:00.050
WORTH MAYBE ABOUT $5 MILLION,
00:52:00.050 --> 00:52:01.250
AND THEY'RE OFFERING IT TO US
00:52:01.250 --> 00:52:03.140
FOR 1.6 MILLION, AND, GOD,
00:52:03.140 --> 00:52:04.140
THAT'S A GREAT REDUCTION, EXCEPT
00:52:04.140 --> 00:52:05.280
THAT'S 1.6 MILLION MORE THAN WE
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.180
HAVE.
00:52:07.180 --> 00:52:08.160
[LAUGHTER]
00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:09.250
SO THAT'S A HUGE
00:52:09.250 --> 00:52:10.270
DILEMMA, GOD."
00:52:10.270 --> 00:52:12.050
AND, GOD, IN THAT MOMENT, PUT
00:52:12.050 --> 00:52:14.050
SOMEONE'S NAME IN MY MIND,
00:52:14.050 --> 00:52:15.260
SOMEONE I'D NEVER MET, I'D
00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:17.140
NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH,
00:52:17.140 --> 00:52:18.230
DIDN'T EVEN ATTEND OUR
00:52:18.230 --> 00:52:19.200
CONGREGATION.
00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:21.070
I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE HIS E-MAIL
00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:21.290
ADDRESS.
00:52:21.290 --> 00:52:22.150
I HAD TO TRACE IT THROUGH
00:52:22.150 --> 00:52:24.000
SOMEONE ELSE'S E-MAIL ADDRESS.
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.170
AND I FOUND IT, AND THEN I SENT
00:52:25.170 --> 00:52:26.160
HIM A NOTE.
00:52:26.160 --> 00:52:27.190
AND I JUST SAID, "HEY, I'M
00:52:27.190 --> 00:52:28.080
PRAYING FOR YOU TODAY.
00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:29.140
ATTACHED TO MY E-MAIL IS A
00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:31.100
PROPOSAL YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED
00:52:31.100 --> 00:52:32.040
IN."
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[LAUGHTER]
00:52:33.050 --> 00:52:35.100
'CAUSE I COULDN'T EVEN ASK
00:52:35.100 --> 00:52:36.020
'CAUSE I WAS SO AFRAID TO ASK.
00:52:36.020 --> 00:52:38.220
WITHIN 5 MINUTES, I GOT AN
00:52:39.130 --> 00:52:42.130
E-MAIL BACK, SAYING, "WE'RE IN
00:52:42.130 --> 00:52:43.050
THE HOSPITAL.
00:52:43.050 --> 00:52:43.260
OUR LITTLE BOY HAS MENINGITIS."
00:52:43.260 --> 00:52:45.060
I THOUGHT, "OH, I'M SUCH A BAD
00:52:45.060 --> 00:52:46.280
HUMAN BEING...JUST SENT AN
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.200
E-MAIL WHILE THEIR SON IS IN THE
00:52:48.200 --> 00:52:49.270
HOSPITAL."
00:52:49.270 --> 00:52:50.260
HE SAID, "WOULD YOU
00:52:50.260 --> 00:52:51.150
PRAY FOR OUR LITTLE BOY?"
00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:52.250
OOH, BY THE WAY, HE GOT HEALED.
00:52:53.080 --> 00:52:56.080
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:52:56.200 --> 00:52:59.200
AND THEN HE ATTACHES AN E-MAIL:
00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:01.180
"AND WE WOULD LOVE TO GIVE
00:53:01.180 --> 00:53:03.100
THE $1.6 MILLION YOU NEED
00:53:03.100 --> 00:53:05.030
FOR THIS PROJECT."
00:53:05.030 --> 00:53:07.040
AND I THOUGHT, "KIM! KIM!"
00:53:07.090 --> 00:53:10.090
I WAS CALLING KIM.
00:53:10.090 --> 00:53:11.020
"YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!"
00:53:11.020 --> 00:53:12.270
AND SO WE BOUGHT THIS EQUIPMENT
00:53:12.270 --> 00:53:14.150
FOR $1.6 MILLION, AND I DIDN'T
00:53:14.150 --> 00:53:16.290
REALIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH
00:53:16.290 --> 00:53:17.200
MONEY 'CAUSE THERE'S ALL THESE
00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:18.280
OTHER THINGS NO ONE TELLS YOU
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:19.190
ABOUT.
00:53:20.200 --> 00:53:23.200
AND SO I GOT UP ONE DAY, AND
00:53:23.200 --> 00:53:24.250
I SAID, "YOU GOTTA KNOW WHAT
00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:25.150
YOU WANT BECAUSE, IF YOU ASK
00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:26.050
FOR TOO LITTLE, IT'S ON YOU."
00:53:27.070 --> 00:53:30.070
AND I JUST WAS HONEST.
00:53:30.070 --> 00:53:31.090
I SAID, "I THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT I
00:53:31.090 --> 00:53:32.010
WANTED, BUT MY DREAMS WERE TOO
00:53:32.010 --> 00:53:32.220
SMALL.
00:53:32.220 --> 00:53:33.080
MY ASK WAS TOO SMALL.
00:53:33.080 --> 00:53:33.250
MY VISION WAS TOO SMALL.
00:53:33.250 --> 00:53:35.180
AND NOW I'M HERE, AND I HAVE
00:53:35.180 --> 00:53:37.040
$1.6 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT,
00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:38.170
BUT WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE'RE
00:53:38.170 --> 00:53:39.290
SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE I DIDN'T
00:53:39.290 --> 00:53:40.240
DREAM BIG ENOUGH!"
00:53:41.160 --> 00:53:44.160
AND THE GUY WAS LISTENING TO MY
00:53:44.160 --> 00:53:45.080
TALK.
00:53:45.080 --> 00:53:48.040
AND WHEN I WALKED OFF THE
00:53:48.040 --> 00:53:48.230
"WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLOSE
00:53:52.150 --> 00:53:54.070
THE GAP OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR
00:53:54.070 --> 00:53:57.030
AND, LET ME TELL YOU,
00:54:01.080 --> 00:54:01.250
IF THERE IS A PERSON OUT
00:54:01.250 --> 00:54:02.250
THERE WHO LISTENS AND SAYS,
00:54:02.250 --> 00:54:04.240
"I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CLOSE THAT
00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:06.020
GAP," DON'T YOU THINK GOD IS
00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:08.070
LISTENING TO YOU?
00:54:08.070 --> 00:54:09.220
DON'T YOU THINK HE'S HERE RIGHT
00:54:09.220 --> 00:54:11.220
NOW, SAYING, "I'M READY TO CLOSE
00:54:11.220 --> 00:54:13.090
THE GAP BETWEEN WHERE YOU ARE
00:54:13.260 --> 00:54:16.260
AND WHERE ONLY I CAN TAKE YOU.
00:54:17.020 --> 00:54:20.020
I'M READY TO GIVE YOU A DREAM SO
00:54:20.020 --> 00:54:22.180
BIG THAT YOU COULD NEVER FULFILL
00:54:22.180 --> 00:54:23.220
IT EXCEPT BY MY POWER!"
00:54:25.010 --> 00:54:28.010
BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE
00:54:28.010 --> 00:54:29.180
YOU START, KNOW WHERE YOU BEGIN,
00:54:29.180 --> 00:54:31.150
YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT!
00:54:32.210 --> 00:54:35.210
I STAND UPON THE SOLID ROCK F
00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:03.130
FAITH IN CHRIST
00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:09.120
THIS STEADFAST HOPE SHALL NOT
00:55:09.120 --> 00:55:10.260
BREAK APART WITHIN THE TRIAL
00:55:12.030 --> 00:55:15.030
I AM ASSURED HIS PROMISES WIL
00:55:15.140 --> 00:55:18.140
NEVER FAIL
00:55:21.100 --> 00:55:24.100
AS LONG AS LIFE REMAINS, HE S
00:55:24.100 --> 00:55:26.040
FAITHFUL
00:55:28.200 --> 00:55:31.200
GOD IS PATIENT
00:55:31.200 --> 00:55:32.080
GOD IS KIND
00:55:32.190 --> 00:55:35.190
HE DOES NOT ENVY
00:55:37.240 --> 00:55:40.240
HE DOES NOT BOAST
00:55:40.240 --> 00:55:41.170
HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN MY
00:55:41.210 --> 00:55:44.210
OWN
00:55:44.210 --> 00:55:46.080
HIS THOUGHTS CONSUME THE GRET
00:55:46.080 --> 00:55:48.000
UNKNOWN
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.150
OF THIS ALONE I AM SURE, MY
00:55:51.120 --> 00:55:54.120
I DRAW MY BREATH UNDER HIS
00:56:11.050 --> 00:56:14.050
CREATED WINDSWEPT SKY
00:56:16.100 --> 00:56:19.100
I KNOW MY HOPE SHALL LAST,
00:56:19.220 --> 00:56:22.220
LONG AFTER MY FLESH RETIRES
00:56:23.140 --> 00:56:26.140
FROM DUSK UNTIL THE DAWN,
00:56:27.020 --> 00:56:30.020
HE CALLS HIS CHILDREN HOME
00:56:30.020 --> 00:56:32.060
HIS RIGHTEOUS LOVE OUTLASTS
00:56:32.060 --> 00:56:34.210
GENERATIONS
00:56:36.230 --> 00:56:39.230
GOD IS PATIENT
00:56:39.230 --> 00:56:42.080
GOD IS KIND
00:56:42.170 --> 00:56:45.170
HE DOES NOT ENVY
00:56:46.200 --> 00:56:49.200
HE DOES NOT BOAST
00:56:49.220 --> 00:56:52.220
HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN MY
00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:56.040
OWN
00:56:56.040 --> 00:56:57.150
HIS THOUGHTS CONSUME THE GRET
00:56:57.150 --> 00:56:58.140
UNKNOWN
00:56:59.100 --> 00:57:02.120
OF THIS ALONE I AM SURE,
00:57:02.120 --> 00:57:04.230
HE IS ALMIGHTY GOD, ELOHIM,
00:57:21.030 --> 00:57:23.090
MAKER OF THE EARTH
00:57:24.150 --> 00:57:27.150
HE IS THE LORD OF HOSTS,
00:57:27.150 --> 00:57:29.270
HEAVEN'S KING,
00:57:29.270 --> 00:57:32.110
GOD OF ENDLESS WORTH
00:57:32.110 --> 00:57:34.220
HIS KINGDOM STANDS ABOVE EVEY
00:57:34.220 --> 00:57:37.080
POWER,
00:57:37.080 --> 00:57:39.000
EVERY LIVING SOUL
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.250
HIS LOVE IS LIKE THE SUN,
00:57:41.250 --> 00:57:44.130
EVER TRUE,
00:57:44.130 --> 00:57:46.170
SHINING OVER ALL
00:57:46.170 --> 00:57:48.270
HE IS ALMIGHTY GOD, ELOHIM,
00:57:49.210 --> 00:57:52.210
MAKER OF THE EARTH
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:55.280
HE IS THE LORD OF HOSTS,
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.210
HEAVEN'S KING,
00:57:58.210 --> 00:58:00.280
GOD OF ENDLESS WORTH
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.040
HIS KINGDOM STANDS ABOVE EVEY
00:58:03.260 --> 00:58:06.260
POWER,
00:58:06.260 --> 00:58:07.220
EVERY LIVING SOUL
00:58:07.220 --> 00:58:10.100
HIS LOVE IS LIKE THE SUN,
00:58:10.100 --> 00:58:13.050
EVER TRUE,
00:58:13.050 --> 00:58:14.280
SHINING OVER ALL
00:58:21.140 --> 00:58:24.140
OOH, OOH, OOH, OOH
00:58:26.250 --> 00:58:29.250
OOH, OOH, OOH, OOH
00:58:34.060 --> 00:58:37.060
OOH, OOH, OOH, OOH
00:58:45.070 --> 00:58:48.070
GOD IS PATIENT
00:58:48.070 --> 00:58:49.010
GOD IS KIND
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.280
HE DOES NOT ENVY
00:58:54.040 --> 00:58:57.040
HE DOES NOT BOAST
00:58:57.080 --> 00:59:00.100
HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN MY
00:59:00.140 --> 00:59:03.140
OWN
00:59:03.140 --> 00:59:05.120
HIS THOUGHTS CONSUME THE GRET
00:59:05.120 --> 00:59:07.130
UNKNOWN
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.280
OF THIS ALONE I AM SURE,
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.280

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