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January 9, 2017
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Hillsong Conference 2016 with Erwin McManus and music by Hillsong Worship

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  • I LIFT MY HANDS TO HEAVEN
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  • HERE MY HEART SURRENDERED
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  • I TELL MY SOUL AGAIN YOU ARE
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  • LORD OF ALL
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  • - MATT CROUCH: THE "PRAISE THE
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  • LORD" PROGRAM CONTINUES.
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  • WE ARE HERE IN SYDNEY,
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  • AUSTRALIA,
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  • HILLSONG CONFERENCE.
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  • IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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  • YOU ARE IN CONTROL
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  • - ERWIN MCMANUS: AND HE'S
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  • WAITING FOR YOU AND FOR ME TO
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  • CALL ON HIM AS THE GOD THAT HE
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  • IS AND ASK BIG DREAMS AND BIG
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  • PRAYERS AND CALL FOR BIG
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  • VISIONS.
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  • - MATT: ERWIN MCMANUS,
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  • "ARTISAN SOUL."
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: "ARTISAN
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  • SOUL."
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  • HE IS AMAZING!
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  • YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS
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  • I WILL TRUST IN ONLY YOU
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  • - ERWIN: IF WE GIVE GOD OUR
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  • EMPTY JARS WITH JUST THE
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  • SMALLEST AMOUNT OF OIL, AND THEN
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  • WE ASK HIM FOR GREAT THINGS, HE
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  • WILL SHOW UP AND BE THE GREAT
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  • ...THE BEGINNING AND
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  • THE END...
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  • - ERWIN: WE ARE GOD'S STRATEGY
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  • TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF HUMAN
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  • ...NO ONE...
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  • - MATT: INSIDE, ERWIN MCMANUS
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  • IS TAKING THE MAIN STAGE.
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  • WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, WE'RE
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  • GONNA SIT DOWN ON THE COUCH AND
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  • MINISTRY WITH ERWIN MCMANUS.
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  • - ERWIN: HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR
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  • CHALLENGES.
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  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR FEARS.
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  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DOUBTS.
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  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOU!
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  • - MATT: THIS IS HILLSONG
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  • CONFERENCE.
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  • THERE IS NO ONE LIKE YOU,
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  • NO ONE
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  • NO ONE CAN ADD TO YOUR
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  • YOU'RE THE BEGINNING AND THE
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  • END,
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  • MORE THAN I CAN COMPREHEND
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  • THERE IS NO ONE LIKE YOU,
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  • JESUS
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  • I LIFT MY HANDS TO HEAVEN
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  • HERE MY HEART SURRENDERED
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  • I TELL MY SOUL AGAIN YOU ARE
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  • LORD OF ALL
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  • THOUGH THE SEAS ARE RAGING,
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  • YOU WILL SPEAK AND TAME THEM
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  • IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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  • YOU ARE IN CONTROL
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  • I LIFT MY HANDS TO HEAVEN
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  • HERE MY HEART SURRENDERED
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  • I TELL MY SOUL AGAIN YOU ARE
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  • LORD OF ALL
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  • THOUGH THE SEAS ARE RAGING,
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  • YOU WILL SPEAK AND TAME THEM
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  • IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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  • YOU ARE IN CONTROL
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  • IN YOU I FIND MY REST
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  • - ERWIN: WOW.
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  • IT IS SO, SO GOOD TO BE HERE
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  • WITH YOU GUYS.
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  • SO I'M FROM A SMALL COUNTRY IN
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  • CENTRAL AMERICA CALLED
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  • EL SALVADOR.
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  • AND IF YOU'RE AT ALL FAMILIAR
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  • WITH EL SALVADOR, YOU KNOW IT'S
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  • KIND OF AN INTENSE AND VIOLENT
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  • COUNTRY, AND SO I GREW UP
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  • INDOORS A LOT.
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  • AND MY GRANDPARENTS RAISED ME,
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  • SO I HAD MY GRANDFATHER TEACHING
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  • ME HIS VERSION OF SPORTS, WHICH
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  • WAS CHESS.
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  • AND SO FROM THE AGE OF AROUND 3
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  • OR 4 YEARS OLD, I WAS PLAYING
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  • CHESS EVERY DAY.
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  • AND MY GRANDFATHER IS INCREDIBLY
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  • COMPETITIVE, SO HE WOULD BEAT ME
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  • IN FIVE MOVES, SIX MOVES, SEVEN
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  • MOVES, AND I WOULD CRY.
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  • I WAS 5.
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  • AND I WOULD SAY TO MY
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  • GRANDFATHER IN SPANISH, "PAPPY,
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  • LET ME HAVE A MOVE."
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  • AND HE WOULD LOOK AT ME
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  • AND SAY, "WHEN YOU EARN A MOVE,
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  • YOU CAN HAVE A MOVE.
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  • CHECKMATE."
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • SO I SPENT THE NEXT SEVERAL
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  • YEARS OF MY LIFE EARNING
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  • EIGHT MOVES AND NINE MOVES AND
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  • TEN MOVES, BUT HE TAUGHT ME
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  • SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT IN LIFE.
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  • WHEN WE SAT DOWN IN THAT GAME OF
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  • WAR, I HAD ONE INTENTION, AND
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  • THAT WAS TO CAUSE HIS KING TO
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  • SURRENDER.
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  • AND EVERYTHING ELSE I DID, EVERY
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  • OTHER MOVE HAD TO SUBMIT TO THIS
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  • ONE INTENTION.
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  • I NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT I WANTED
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  • AND EITHER ORGANIZE EVERY
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  • DECISION I MADE TO ACCOMPLISH
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  • THAT GOAL.
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  • HAVE YOU EVER HAD PEOPLE ASK YOU
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  • STUPID QUESTIONS, AND THEN
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  • YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RESPOND AS IF
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  • IT WAS A INTELLIGENT QUESTION?
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  • I'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR OVER 30
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  • YEARS, AND IF YOU'VE BEEN
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  • MARRIED A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW
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  • THAT YOUR WIFE WILL ASK YOU A
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  • LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT SHE
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  • DOESN'T NEED TO ASK YOU, LIKE,
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  • "WHERE DID YOU PARK THE CAR?"
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE ASKS ME
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  • THAT.
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  • IF I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, WHY
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  • IS SHE ASKING ME?
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  • "WHERE DID YOU LOSE THE CAR
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  • KEYS?"
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  • I HATE THAT ONE TOO.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • "WHY DID YOU BREAK IT?"
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  • WELL, I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT
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  • AHEAD OF TIME: "I'M GONNA BREAK
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  • THIS BEFORE I TRY TO FIX IT."
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • I LOVE THE GENERAL QUESTIONS SHE
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  • ASKS ME:
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  • "WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?"
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  • CLEARLY, NOTHING.
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  • AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE
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  • STUPID QUESTIONS I'VE BEEN ASKED
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  • IN MY LIFE--
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  • SO I WAS READING A MOMENT IN
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  • THE LIFE OF JESUS, AND HE ASKED
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  • THE QUESTION, AND I HAD
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  • THIS THOUGHT:
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  • "THAT'S THE STUPIDEST QUESTION
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  • I'VE EVER HEARD."
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  • BUT I TRIED TO STOP IT
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  • BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT JESUS TO
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  • HEAR ME SAY THAT.
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  • SO I DIDN'T SAY IT OUTSIDE.
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  • I SAID, "DON'T WRITE THAT DOWN.
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  • JUST THINK IT 'CAUSE THAT WAY,
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  • HE DOESN'T KNOW YOU'RE THINKIN'
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  • IT."
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  • BUT I HAD THIS MOMENT.
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  • I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE
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  • SCRIPTURES AND THOUGHT TO
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  • YOURSELF, "THAT'S STUPID."
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  • I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
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  • THINK THAT,
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  • BUT YOU DO THINK THAT.
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  • WELL, THERE'S A MOMENT IN THE
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  • LIFE OF JESUS, AND HE ASKS WHAT
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  • MIGHT BE THE STUPIDEST QUESTION
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  • EVER ASKED, EXCEPT, OF COURSE,
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  • JESUS ASKED IT, SO, LORD, I KNOW
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  • IT'S NOT STUPID.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • IT'S IN MATTHEW CHAPTER 20,
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  • BEGINNING AT VERSE 29.
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  • IT SAYS, "AS JESUS AND HIS
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  • DISCIPLES WERE LEAVING JERICHO,
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  • A LARGE CROWD FOLLOWED HIM.
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  • TWO BLIND MEN WERE SITTING BY
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  • THE ROADSIDE, AND WHEN THEY
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  • HEARD THAT JESUS WAS GOING BY,
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  • THEY SHOUTED, 'LORD, SON OF
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  • DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!'
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  • THE CROWD REBUKED THEM AND TOLD
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  • THEM TO BE QUIET, BUT THEY
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  • SHOUTED ALL THE LOUDER, 'LORD,
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  • SON OF DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!'
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  • JESUS STOPPED AND CALLED THEM."
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  • AND HERE IT IS.
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  • HERE'S THE STUPIDEST QUESTION
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  • I'VE EVER HEARD: "WHAT DO YOU
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  • WANT ME TO DO FOR YOU?"
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  • I KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO SOUND
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  • PROFOUND AND SPIRITUAL, BUT
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  • REALLY, JESUS?
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  • THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD COME UP
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  • WITH?
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  • TWO BLIND GUYS ARE SCREAMING
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  • THEIR GUTS OUT, "LORD, SON OF
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  • DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!"
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  • AND YOU LOOK AT THEM, AND
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  • THEY'RE CLEARLY BLIND, AND YOU
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  • DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • I MEAN, JESUS, IF YOU'RE GOD,
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  • YOU KIND OF ALREADY KNOW THAT.
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  • AND EVEN IF YOU WERE NOT GOD,
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  • YOU COULD SORT OF INTUIT WHAT
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  • THEY WANTED.
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  • I THINK YOU COULD PICK IT UP.
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  • "JESUS STOPPED AND CALLED THEM.
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  • 'WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR
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  • YOU?'
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  • HE ASKED.
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  • 'LORD,' THEY ANSWERED, 'WE WANT
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  • OUR SIGHT.'"
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  • "OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU--
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  • I WOULD'VE NEVER KNOWN!"
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  • SO CLARIFYING!
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  • "'WE WANT OUR SIGHT.'
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  • JESUS HAD COMPASSION ON THEM
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  • AND TOUCHED THEIR EYES, AND
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  • IMMEDIATELY THEY RECEIVED
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  • THEIR SIGHT AND FOLLOWED HIM."
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  • AND I THINK WHEN WE READ THIS
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  • KIND OF ENCOUNTER FROM JESUS,
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  • WE'RE OVERWHELMED BY THE POWER
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  • OF JESUS TO GIVE SIGHT TO
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  • THE BLIND OR ARE MOVED BY THE
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  • COMPASSION OF JESUS THAT HE
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  • CARES SO DEEPLY ABOUT EACH
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  • INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS EVER WALKED
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  • ON THIS PLANET.
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  • BUT IN THE MIDST OF THAT, WE
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  • OVERLOOK THAT PART OF THE
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  • CONVERSATION THAT I'M CONVINCED
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  • GOD WANTS US TO STEP INTO.
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  • WHEN JESUS ASKED THE QUESTION,
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  • "WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR
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  • YOU?"
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  • THAT QUESTION WAS NOT
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  • INCIDENTAL.
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  • THAT QUESTION IS ONE OF THE MOST
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  • SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS WE COULD
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  • EVER BE ASKED OF BY GOD BECAUSE,
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  • IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU
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  • WANT, THEN GOD CANNOT GIVE YOU
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  • WHAT YOU NEED.
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  • AND IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND
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  • THAT GOD WILL NOT FORCE HIMSELF
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  • ON YOU, IMPOSE HIMSELF ON YOU,
  • 00:08:55.150 --> 00:08:56.120
  • DEMAND HIMSELF ON YOU, THAT GOD
  • 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.010
  • IN HIS GRACIOUSNESS AND HIS
  • 00:08:59.010 --> 00:09:01.130
  • GENEROSITY AND HIS KINDNESS AND
  • 00:09:01.130 --> 00:09:03.140
  • GENTLENESS, THAT GOD WAITS FOR
  • 00:09:03.140 --> 00:09:06.060
  • US TO INVITE HIM INTO OUR LIVES
  • 00:09:06.060 --> 00:09:08.170
  • TO DO WHAT ONLY HE CAN DO FOR
  • 00:09:08.170 --> 00:09:10.150
  • US, WE WON'T UNDERSTAND THE
  • 00:09:10.150 --> 00:09:12.240
  • POWER OF HIS QUESTION.
  • 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.240
  • AND I WONDER TODAY, DO YOU KNOW
  • 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.140
  • WHAT YOU WANT?
  • 00:09:17.260 --> 00:09:20.260
  • 'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
  • 00:09:20.260 --> 00:09:21.170
  • YOU WANT, DON'T GET MAD AT GOD
  • 00:09:21.170 --> 00:09:24.090
  • THAT HE NEVER GIVES YOU WHAT YOU
  • 00:09:24.090 --> 00:09:26.110
  • NEED BECAUSE, IF JESUS
  • 00:09:26.110 --> 00:09:28.180
  • ENCOUNTERS TWO BLIND MEN WALKING
  • 00:09:28.180 --> 00:09:30.250
  • AS HE WALKS DOWN THROUGH JERICHO
  • 00:09:30.250 --> 00:09:32.160
  • AND THEY CRY OUT TO HIM, "HAVE
  • 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:34.060
  • MERCY ON US!"
  • 00:09:34.060 --> 00:09:36.270
  • AND HE STOPS AND SAYS, "I'M
  • 00:09:36.270 --> 00:09:39.010
  • GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND
  • 00:09:39.010 --> 00:09:40.020
  • WHEN I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, I
  • 00:09:40.020 --> 00:09:42.090
  • NEED YOU TO REALLY THINK THIS
  • 00:09:42.090 --> 00:09:43.260
  • THROUGH 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A MOMENT
  • 00:09:43.260 --> 00:09:45.270
  • WITH THE CREATOR OF THE
  • 00:09:45.270 --> 00:09:47.230
  • UNIVERSE: WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO
  • 00:09:47.230 --> 00:09:49.060
  • DO FOR YOU?"
  • 00:09:51.170 --> 00:09:54.170
  • I THINK A LOT OF US ARE
  • 00:09:54.170 --> 00:09:55.050
  • TERRIFIED TO ASK GOD TO DO BIG
  • 00:09:55.050 --> 00:09:56.280
  • THINGS IN US AND THROUGH US AND
  • 00:09:56.280 --> 00:09:59.230
  • FOR US BECAUSE IF I PROVE THAT
  • 00:10:00.020 --> 00:10:03.020
  • GOD DOES NOT EXIST, AND SO WE
  • 00:10:03.020 --> 00:10:05.180
  • PRAY SMALL PRAYERS THAT WE CAN
  • 00:10:05.180 --> 00:10:07.040
  • ACTUALLY FULFILL OURSELVES.
  • 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.000
  • WE PRAY PRAYERS THAT WON'T GET
  • 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.250
  • GOD IN TROUBLE, WON'T PUT GOD IN
  • 00:10:12.250 --> 00:10:14.110
  • A DILEMMA 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA
  • 00:10:14.110 --> 00:10:15.270
  • PUSH GOD INTO A CORNER WHERE WE
  • 00:10:15.270 --> 00:10:17.110
  • ASK HIM TO BE GOD, AND WE FIND
  • 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:19.220
  • OUT HE'S LESS THAN WE THOUGHT.
  • 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:23.100
  • BUT GOD DOES NOT NEED YOU TO
  • 00:10:23.100 --> 00:10:24.160
  • PROTECT HIM OR HIS REPUTATION.
  • 00:10:24.160 --> 00:10:27.130
  • GOD IS BIGGER THAN YOUR PRAYERS.
  • 00:10:27.130 --> 00:10:30.120
  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DREAMS.
  • 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:31.280
  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR
  • 00:10:31.280 --> 00:10:32.250
  • CHALLENGES.
  • 00:10:32.250 --> 00:10:33.250
  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR FEARS.
  • 00:10:33.250 --> 00:10:35.060
  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DOUBTS.
  • 00:10:35.060 --> 00:10:36.040
  • HE'S BIGGER THAN YOU!
  • 00:10:36.040 --> 00:10:38.110
  • AND HE'S WAITING FOR YOU AND FOR
  • 00:10:38.110 --> 00:10:39.260
  • ME TO CALL ON HIM AS THE GOD
  • 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:43.260
  • THAT HE IS AND ASK BIG DREAMS
  • 00:10:43.260 --> 00:10:45.230
  • AND BIG PRAYERS AND CALL FOR BIG
  • 00:10:45.230 --> 00:10:47.080
  • VISIONS.
  • 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:48.100
  • GOD IS LOOKING FOR THE PERSON
  • 00:10:48.100 --> 00:10:49.200
  • WHO'S NOT AFRAID OF "THE BIG
  • 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.190
  • ASK."
  • 00:10:50.190 --> 00:10:52.110
  • DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT?
  • 00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:54.090
  • AND I DON'T THINK IT'S
  • 00:10:54.090 --> 00:10:55.290
  • INCIDENTAL THAT, WHEN THEY'RE
  • 00:10:55.290 --> 00:10:57.270
  • SHOUTING OUT TO JESUS, "THE
  • 00:10:57.270 --> 00:10:59.040
  • CROWD REBUKED THEM AND TOLD THEM
  • 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:01.240
  • TO BE QUIET."
  • 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:04.140
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED
  • 00:11:04.140 --> 00:11:06.150
  • IN MY OWN LIFE IS THAT, WHEN
  • 00:11:06.280 --> 00:11:09.280
  • YOU ASK GOD FOR BIG THINGS,
  • 00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:10.210
  • PEOPLE DON'T START
  • 00:11:10.210 --> 00:11:13.100
  • CHEERING YOU ON.
  • 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:14.050
  • YOU SEE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
  • 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:18.270
  • TO PRAY HUMBLE PRAYERS SO THAT
  • 00:11:20.170 --> 00:11:23.170
  • YOU DON'T THINK TOO MUCH OF
  • 00:11:23.170 --> 00:11:24.210
  • YOURSELF BECAUSE, IF YOU START
  • 00:11:24.210 --> 00:11:27.070
  • PRAYING BIG PRAYERS, PEOPLE LOOK
  • 00:11:27.070 --> 00:11:28.100
  • AT YOU AND SAY, "WHO DO YOU
  • 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:29.090
  • THINK YOU ARE PRAYING A PRAYER
  • 00:11:29.090 --> 00:11:30.000
  • THAT BIG?
  • 00:11:30.180 --> 00:11:33.180
  • WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, ASKING
  • 00:11:33.180 --> 00:11:35.170
  • GOD TO GIVE YOU YOUR SIGHT?
  • 00:11:35.170 --> 00:11:37.050
  • I MEAN, AFTER ALL, YOU ARE NO
  • 00:11:37.050 --> 00:11:37.270
  • ONE!"
  • 00:11:37.270 --> 00:11:39.200
  • THESE TWO MEN DO NOT EVEN HAVE
  • 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:40.200
  • NAMES.
  • 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:43.060
  • THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON ANY
  • 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:43.290
  • RECORD.
  • 00:11:43.290 --> 00:11:45.280
  • WHY WOULD JESUS TAKE THE TIME
  • 00:11:45.280 --> 00:11:47.270
  • AND ENERGY AND EFFORT TO GIVE
  • 00:11:47.290 --> 00:11:50.290
  • THEM SIGHT WHEN THERE'S NOTHING
  • 00:11:50.290 --> 00:11:51.260
  • ABOUT THEM AFTER THIS?
  • 00:11:51.260 --> 00:11:53.240
  • DOESN'T JESUS ONLY ANSWER BIG
  • 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.150
  • PRAYERS FOR BIG PEOPLE?
  • 00:11:56.140 --> 00:11:59.140
  • AND SO THEY REBUKED THEM BECAUSE
  • 00:11:59.140 --> 00:12:01.000
  • THEY DID NOT FEEL THEY WERE
  • 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.110
  • WORTHY OF ASKING JESUS FOR SO
  • 00:12:03.110 --> 00:12:05.270
  • GREAT A THING.
  • 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:09.180
  • SEE, I THINK A LOT OF US FEEL
  • 00:12:09.180 --> 00:12:11.040
  • LIKE THOSE BLIND MEN BY THE SIDE
  • 00:12:11.040 --> 00:12:12.190
  • OF THE ROAD, AND WE DON'T WANT
  • 00:12:12.190 --> 00:12:14.190
  • TO BE INTRUSIVE ON GOD.
  • 00:12:14.190 --> 00:12:17.130
  • WE DON'T WANNA ASK GOD FOR MORE
  • 00:12:17.130 --> 00:12:20.010
  • THAN WE SHOULD OR MORE THAN WE
  • 00:12:20.010 --> 00:12:21.200
  • DESERVE OR MORE THAN WE OUGHT
  • 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.070
  • TO, AND SO WE KEEP OUR PRAYERS
  • 00:12:23.070 --> 00:12:24.190
  • HUMBLE SO THAT NO ONE WILL THINK
  • 00:12:24.190 --> 00:12:26.060
  • WE THINK TOO MUCH OF OURSELVES.
  • 00:12:26.280 --> 00:12:29.280
  • IF NO ONE IS REBUKING YOU FOR
  • 00:12:29.280 --> 00:12:32.270
  • YOUR PRAYERS, YOUR PRAYERS ARE
  • 00:12:32.270 --> 00:12:33.180
  • TOO SMALL.
  • 00:12:33.260 --> 00:12:36.260
  • IF NO ONE IS LOOKING AT YOU WITH
  • 00:12:36.260 --> 00:12:38.170
  • SOME SUSPICION, LOOKING AT YOU,
  • 00:12:38.170 --> 00:12:41.010
  • SAYING, "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU
  • 00:12:41.010 --> 00:12:42.030
  • ARE, PRAYING THAT KIND OF
  • 00:12:42.030 --> 00:12:42.240
  • PRAYER?
  • 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.200
  • WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, HAVING
  • 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.120
  • THAT KIND OF DREAM?
  • 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.080
  • WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE,
  • 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.100
  • EXPECTING GOD TO GIVE YOU THAT
  • 00:12:51.100 --> 00:12:52.190
  • BIG A LIFE?"
  • 00:12:52.260 --> 00:12:55.260
  • AND YOU CAN RESPOND, "I KNOW WHO
  • 00:12:55.260 --> 00:12:56.230
  • I AM.
  • 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:59.020
  • I'M JUST A BLIND BEGGAR ON THE
  • 00:12:59.020 --> 00:13:00.150
  • SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT JESUS IS
  • 00:13:00.150 --> 00:13:02.090
  • WALKING BY, AND I'M NOT GONNA
  • 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:03.100
  • GET LOST IN THE CROWD!
  • 00:13:03.100 --> 00:13:05.080
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.200
  • 'CAUSE IT'S NOT WHO I AM.
  • 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.260
  • IT'S WHO HE IS."
  • 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:14.040
  • I GREW UP, READING EVERY
  • 00:13:14.040 --> 00:13:14.260
  • MYTHOLOGY BOOK IN THE LIBRARY,
  • 00:13:14.260 --> 00:13:17.070
  • AND I HAD NO IDEA WHO GOD WAS.
  • 00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:19.270
  • SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKED
  • 00:13:19.270 --> 00:13:21.080
  • OUT.
  • 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:22.090
  • I NEVER REALLY KNEW WHO JESUS
  • 00:13:22.090 --> 00:13:23.140
  • WAS UNTIL I WAS AROUND 20 YEARS
  • 00:13:23.140 --> 00:13:24.180
  • OLD, AND SOMEONE HANDED ME A
  • 00:13:24.180 --> 00:13:25.270
  • BIBLE, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT GOD
  • 00:13:25.270 --> 00:13:27.100
  • WAS THE GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES,
  • 00:13:27.100 --> 00:13:29.030
  • AND IF I WOULD PRAY, GOD WOULD
  • 00:13:29.030 --> 00:13:30.100
  • HEAR MY PRAYERS IF I WOULD
  • 00:13:30.100 --> 00:13:32.050
  • BELIEVE THAT GOD WOULD HONOR MY
  • 00:13:32.050 --> 00:13:34.150
  • FAITH, MY TRUST IN HIM.
  • 00:13:34.150 --> 00:13:36.120
  • BUT I WASN'T SURE HOW IT ALL
  • 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:37.270
  • WORKED OUT, AND HERE I AM,
  • 00:13:38.150 --> 00:13:41.150
  • TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE NOW FOR
  • 00:13:41.150 --> 00:13:43.010
  • JESUS AND TRYING TO BRING HIM
  • 00:13:43.010 --> 00:13:44.060
  • HONOR AND PLEASURE AND TO HELP
  • 00:13:44.060 --> 00:13:46.220
  • PEOPLE COME TO KNOW HIM.
  • 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:47.210
  • YOU EVER HAVE SOMETHING TERRIBLE
  • 00:13:47.210 --> 00:13:48.250
  • HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU
  • 00:13:48.250 --> 00:13:49.280
  • THINK YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING
  • 00:13:49.280 --> 00:13:50.220
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:13:50.220 --> 00:13:52.070
  • SO HERE I AM IN COLLEGE, AND I'M
  • 00:13:52.070 --> 00:13:53.000
  • TRYIN' TO TALK TO EVERYBODY
  • 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:54.010
  • ABOUT WHO JESUS IS.
  • 00:13:54.010 --> 00:13:55.040
  • AND I ALSO PLAYED ON THE SOCCER
  • 00:13:55.040 --> 00:13:57.140
  • TEAM, AND I HAVE BAD DAYS WHEN I
  • 00:13:57.140 --> 00:13:59.260
  • GOT HIT REALLY HARD AT THE
  • 00:13:59.260 --> 00:14:01.110
  • PARTICULAR MATCH, AND THEY HAD
  • 00:14:01.110 --> 00:14:02.280
  • TO TAKE ME OVER TO THE HOSPITAL,
  • 00:14:02.280 --> 00:14:04.010
  • AND THAT NIGHT, I WAS IN SO MUCH
  • 00:14:04.010 --> 00:14:04.270
  • PAIN.
  • 00:14:04.270 --> 00:14:06.280
  • AND MY ROOMMATE HAD BUILT A LOFT
  • 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.000
  • IN THE DORM ROOM WHERE WE SLEPT
  • 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.110
  • UP HIGH SO WE COULD TURN THE
  • 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:12.290
  • BOTTOM INTO A LIVING ROOM.
  • 00:14:12.290 --> 00:14:14.200
  • AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,
  • 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:15.210
  • I JUST KEPT ROLLING BACK AND
  • 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:16.280
  • FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH 'CAUSE
  • 00:14:16.280 --> 00:14:18.120
  • I'M IN SO MUCH PAIN, AND BEFORE
  • 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.130
  • I EVEN REALIZED THAT, I ROLLED
  • 00:14:20.130 --> 00:14:22.160
  • OUT OF THAT LOFT, AND I FELL
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:24.110
  • RIGHT ON TOP OF MY ROOMMATE'S
  • 00:14:24.110 --> 00:14:25.180
  • ARMY SURPLUS LOCKER.
  • 00:14:25.180 --> 00:14:27.270
  • THEY MAKE THOSE THINGS SO SOLID.
  • 00:14:27.270 --> 00:14:30.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:30.150 --> 00:14:31.060
  • AND I HIT THAT METAL CORNER
  • 00:14:31.060 --> 00:14:31.260
  • WITH MY ELBOW, AND WHEN I
  • 00:14:31.260 --> 00:14:33.120
  • HIT THAT THING, IT BROKE THE
  • 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:34.140
  • RADIAL HEAD OFF MY ELBOW.
  • 00:14:34.140 --> 00:14:35.210
  • MY ROOMMATE WHOSE MAJOR WAS
  • 00:14:35.290 --> 00:14:38.290
  • SPORTS THERAPY JUST LAY THERE.
  • 00:14:42.020 --> 00:14:45.020
  • AND AS I MOANED AND GROANED ON
  • 00:14:45.020 --> 00:14:46.290
  • THE FLOOR, HE FINALLY SAID, "DID
  • 00:14:46.290 --> 00:14:48.020
  • YOU DROP SOMETHING?"
  • 00:14:48.020 --> 00:14:49.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:49.140 --> 00:14:51.210
  • "NO."
  • 00:14:51.210 --> 00:14:52.100
  • AND HE GOES,
  • 00:14:52.100 --> 00:14:53.000
  • "IS THAT YOU?"
  • 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:53.210
  • AND I GO, "YEAH.
  • 00:14:53.210 --> 00:14:54.150
  • IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.290
  • I THINK I NEED TO GO TO THE
  • 00:14:55.290 --> 00:14:56.210
  • HOSPITAL."
  • 00:14:56.210 --> 00:14:57.200
  • HE GOES, "I'LL TAKE YOU
  • 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:58.290
  • IN THE MORNING."
  • 00:14:58.290 --> 00:14:59.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:59.210 --> 00:15:00.180
  • A LOT OF LOVE THERE!
  • 00:15:00.180 --> 00:15:01.110
  • SO I LAY THERE ALL NIGHT IN COLD
  • 00:15:01.170 --> 00:15:04.170
  • SWEATS, FEVER, AGONIZING PAIN.
  • 00:15:04.170 --> 00:15:05.210
  • IN THE MORNING, I GOT MYSELF TO
  • 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:08.130
  • THE HOSPITAL.
  • 00:15:09.130 --> 00:15:12.130
  • AND THEY X-RAYED MY BODY, AND
  • 00:15:12.130 --> 00:15:14.150
  • THEY TOLD ME THAT I WOULD NEVER
  • 00:15:14.150 --> 00:15:15.220
  • MOVE MY ARM FOR THE REST OF MY
  • 00:15:15.220 --> 00:15:16.150
  • LIFE.
  • 00:15:16.150 --> 00:15:19.030
  • AND THE ONLY EXPRESSION I HAD OF
  • 00:15:19.030 --> 00:15:19.250
  • MY FAITH AT THAT TIME WAS I WAS
  • 00:15:19.250 --> 00:15:20.280
  • A MUSICIAN, AND SO I WOULD WRITE
  • 00:15:20.280 --> 00:15:22.010
  • MUSIC AND PLAY THE GUITAR AND
  • 00:15:22.010 --> 00:15:23.130
  • SING AND DO THESE FESTIVALS AND
  • 00:15:23.130 --> 00:15:25.260
  • CONCERTS, AND NOW I'M TOLD THAT
  • 00:15:25.260 --> 00:15:27.190
  • MY ARM IS STUCK, AND I WOULD
  • 00:15:27.190 --> 00:15:29.210
  • NEVER MOVE IT AGAIN.
  • 00:15:29.210 --> 00:15:30.270
  • I'M IN SPORTS REHABILITATION AT
  • 00:15:31.150 --> 00:15:34.150
  • THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA
  • 00:15:34.150 --> 00:15:35.270
  • MEDICAL CENTER, AND THEY'RE
  • 00:15:35.270 --> 00:15:36.260
  • GRAPHING MY MOVEMENT AT ZERO,
  • 00:15:36.260 --> 00:15:38.190
  • ZERO, ZERO, ZERO.
  • 00:15:38.190 --> 00:15:39.260
  • AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW
  • 00:15:39.260 --> 00:15:42.120
  • CONFUSING THAT WAS TO ME-- SAY,
  • 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.190
  • "JESUS, I TRUSTED YOU WITH MY
  • 00:15:44.190 --> 00:15:46.060
  • LIFE, AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE
  • 00:15:46.060 --> 00:15:47.090
  • EVERYTHING I HAVE, AND I'M JUST
  • 00:15:47.090 --> 00:15:49.120
  • 21 YEARS OLD, AND I AM BROKEN!"
  • 00:15:55.150 --> 00:15:58.150
  • THEN I GOT A PHONE CALL.
  • 00:15:58.150 --> 00:16:00.230
  • THIS FESTIVAL IS COMING FROM
  • 00:16:00.230 --> 00:16:02.070
  • CANADA TO NORTH CAROLINA, AND
  • 00:16:02.070 --> 00:16:03.170
  • THEY HEARD ABOUT ME, SO THEY
  • 00:16:03.170 --> 00:16:04.190
  • WANTED ME TO PERFORM AT THEIR
  • 00:16:04.190 --> 00:16:05.130
  • FESTIVAL.
  • 00:16:05.130 --> 00:16:07.110
  • AND I HAD JUST BROKEN MY ARM A
  • 00:16:07.110 --> 00:16:08.210
  • COUPLE DAYS BEFORE, AND, WELL,
  • 00:16:08.210 --> 00:16:10.150
  • THEY ASKED IF I WOULD PERFORM.
  • 00:16:10.150 --> 00:16:12.040
  • I JUST SAID, "I'LL BE THERE."
  • 00:16:12.040 --> 00:16:14.150
  • I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WAS GONNA
  • 00:16:14.150 --> 00:16:15.060
  • BE THERE.
  • 00:16:15.060 --> 00:16:15.230
  • I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WAS GONNA
  • 00:16:15.230 --> 00:16:16.140
  • PLAY.
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:17.010
  • I JUST SAID, "I'LL BE THERE."
  • 00:16:17.010 --> 00:16:18.160
  • AND I HUNG UP THE PHONE, AND I
  • 00:16:18.160 --> 00:16:19.210
  • SAT DOWN ON THE SOFA, AND I
  • 00:16:19.210 --> 00:16:20.110
  • GRABBED MY GUITAR, AND I PUT IN
  • 00:16:20.110 --> 00:16:21.160
  • ON MY LAP, AND I PRAYED THE
  • 00:16:21.160 --> 00:16:23.170
  • BIGGEST PRAYER THAT I EVER
  • 00:16:23.170 --> 00:16:24.200
  • PRAYED IN MY LIFE UP TO THAT
  • 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:25.110
  • POINT.
  • 00:16:25.110 --> 00:16:26.210
  • I SAID, "JESUS, I JUST WANNA
  • 00:16:26.210 --> 00:16:27.190
  • PLAY FOR YOU.
  • 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.240
  • I JUST WANNA DO THIS SO THAT I
  • 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:34.100
  • CAN DECLARE YOUR NAME."
  • 00:16:34.100 --> 00:16:35.090
  • AND I SAID, "JESUS,
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.120
  • WOULD YOU JUST MOVE MY ARM
  • 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.260
  • TO THE GUITAR STRINGS SO
  • 00:16:37.260 --> 00:16:40.050
  • THAT I CAN AT LEAST
  • 00:16:40.050 --> 00:16:40.210
  • PLAY THE GUITAR?
  • 00:16:40.210 --> 00:16:41.100
  • THAT'S ALL I'M ASKIN'.
  • 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:42.120
  • I JUST ASK YOU TO MOVE MY ARM
  • 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:43.170
  • FROM WHERE IT'S STUCK TO THE
  • 00:16:43.230 --> 00:16:46.230
  • STRINGS SO I COULD PLAY."
  • 00:16:46.230 --> 00:16:48.210
  • AND IN THAT MOMENT,
  • 00:16:48.210 --> 00:16:49.070
  • I CANNOT EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU,
  • 00:16:49.070 --> 00:16:50.030
  • BUT IN THAT MOMENT,
  • 00:16:50.030 --> 00:16:52.130
  • MY ARM MOVED FROM WHERE IT WAS
  • 00:16:52.130 --> 00:16:53.250
  • STUCK, AND IT JUST INSTANTLY
  • 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:55.060
  • MOVED RIGHT TO THE GUITAR
  • 00:16:55.060 --> 00:16:56.080
  • STRINGS!
  • 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.220
  • AND I WAS OVERWHELMED THAT
  • 00:16:58.220 --> 00:17:00.060
  • "I CANNOT BELIEVE, GOD,
  • 00:17:00.060 --> 00:17:01.200
  • YOU COULD ANSWER A PRAYER
  • 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.230
  • SO FAST!"
  • 00:17:02.280 --> 00:17:05.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:05.280 --> 00:17:08.030
  • AND THEN I HAD THIS THOUGHT.
  • 00:17:08.030 --> 00:17:10.230
  • THAT WAS THE STUPIDEST PRAYER
  • 00:17:10.230 --> 00:17:12.260
  • I'VE EVER PRAYED IN MY WHOLE
  • 00:17:12.260 --> 00:17:13.170
  • LIFE.
  • 00:17:13.190 --> 00:17:16.190
  • I COULD ALMOST HEAR GOD, LIKE,
  • 00:17:16.190 --> 00:17:18.210
  • "WATCH THIS!
  • 00:17:18.210 --> 00:17:20.190
  • HE'S ABOUT TO PRAY, AND I'M
  • 00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:22.070
  • ABOUT TO HEAL HIM!
  • 00:17:22.070 --> 00:17:23.250
  • WATCH!
  • 00:17:23.250 --> 00:17:24.240
  • HOW ABOUT I DO A GOD-SIZED
  • 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.070
  • THING!"
  • 00:17:27.070 --> 00:17:28.240
  • BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A GOD-SIZED
  • 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:29.150
  • PRAYER.
  • 00:17:29.150 --> 00:17:31.080
  • I SAID, "GOD, JESUS, COULD YOU
  • 00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:32.250
  • JUST MOVE MY ARM?
  • 00:17:32.250 --> 00:17:33.230
  • IT'S JUST OVER HERE."
  • 00:17:33.230 --> 00:17:34.190
  • IT'S LIKE,
  • 00:17:34.190 --> 00:17:35.040
  • "I'M NOT ASKING FOR A WHOLE LOT.
  • 00:17:35.040 --> 00:17:35.260
  • YOU COULD PROBABLY ASSIGN THIS
  • 00:17:35.260 --> 00:17:37.010
  • TO A MIDDLE MANAGER.
  • 00:17:40.150 --> 00:17:43.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:43.150 --> 00:17:45.200
  • AND WHEN I MOVED MY ARM,
  • 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.230
  • I HEAR-- I HAD THIS
  • 00:17:46.230 --> 00:17:47.110
  • THOUGHT.
  • 00:17:47.110 --> 00:17:47.270
  • I REALIZED, "WHAT WAS I
  • 00:17:47.270 --> 00:17:48.150
  • THINKING!
  • 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:50.170
  • IF GOD WOULD MOVE MY ARM FROM
  • 00:17:50.170 --> 00:17:52.000
  • HERE TO HERE, IF HE WOULD HEAL
  • 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:52.220
  • MY ARM THAT MUCH, I'M PRETTY
  • 00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:54.160
  • SURE HE WAS READY TO HEAL MY ARM
  • 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.120
  • COMPLETELY!"
  • 00:17:58.170 --> 00:18:01.190
  • AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT BACK
  • 00:18:01.190 --> 00:18:02.170
  • TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY
  • 00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:04.090
  • MEASURED MY MOBILITY, AND THEY
  • 00:18:04.090 --> 00:18:05.000
  • SAID, "ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.020
  • LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT."
  • 00:18:06.020 --> 00:18:08.110
  • ZERO, ZERO, ZERO, ZERO,
  • 00:18:08.110 --> 00:18:09.170
  • EVERY SINGLE DAY...
  • 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:10.200
  • AND I GO, "HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO
  • 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.120
  • MOVE MY ARM?
  • 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:11.280
  • LIKE THIS?
  • 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:12.160
  • LIKE THIS?
  • 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:13.030
  • HOW..." 'CAUSE I WAS SO NEW, I
  • 00:18:13.030 --> 00:18:13.240
  • DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER, AND I
  • 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:14.250
  • TOLD 'EM ALL ABOUT JESUS AND HOW
  • 00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:15.240
  • HE HEALED ME!
  • 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:16.120
  • SEE, NOW, I THINK A LOT OF US,
  • 00:18:16.120 --> 00:18:19.110
  • WE PRAY PRAYERS THAT ACTUALLY
  • 00:18:21.140 --> 00:18:24.140
  • REVEAL OUR LACK OF FAITH IN WHAT
  • 00:18:24.230 --> 00:18:27.230
  • GOD WANTS TO DO IN US.
  • 00:18:27.230 --> 00:18:30.230
  • "WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR
  • 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.000
  • YOU?
  • 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:34.200
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT?
  • 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.020
  • WHAT KIND OF LIFE DO YOU WANT?"
  • 00:18:36.020 --> 00:18:37.140
  • DO YOU HAVE THE LIFE YOU WANT,
  • 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:39.130
  • OR DO YOU JUST HAVE A LIFE YOU
  • 00:18:39.130 --> 00:18:40.150
  • GOT?
  • 00:18:40.150 --> 00:18:42.160
  • SEE, I THINK A LOT OF US, WE'RE
  • 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.170
  • NOT LIVING THE LIFE WE WANT.
  • 00:18:44.170 --> 00:18:46.290
  • WE'RE LIVING THE LIFE WE'VE GOT.
  • 00:18:46.290 --> 00:18:49.110
  • AND THE REASON WE NEVER LIVE THE
  • 00:18:49.210 --> 00:18:52.210
  • LIFE THAT WE WANT IS BECAUSE WE
  • 00:18:52.210 --> 00:18:54.230
  • DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
  • 00:18:54.230 --> 00:18:56.040
  • AND GOD KEEPS WAITING: "ASK ME!
  • 00:18:56.040 --> 00:18:58.000
  • WHAT ARE YOUR DREAMS?
  • 00:18:58.120 --> 00:19:01.140
  • WHAT'S YOUR VISION?
  • 00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:03.220
  • WHAT BURDENS YOU?
  • 00:19:03.220 --> 00:19:06.050
  • WHAT FILLS YOU WITH PASSION?
  • 00:19:06.050 --> 00:19:08.050
  • WHAT SETS YOU ON FIRE?
  • 00:19:08.050 --> 00:19:09.260
  • ASK ME FOR SOMETHING BIGGER THAN
  • 00:19:09.260 --> 00:19:11.100
  • YOU SO THAT I CAN SHOW UP AND BE
  • 00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:13.080
  • GOD IN YOUR LIFE!"
  • 00:19:13.080 --> 00:19:15.040
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:17.180
  • AND YOU NEED TO OPEN UP YOUR
  • 00:19:17.180 --> 00:19:18.200
  • HEART AND OPEN UP YOUR MIND
  • 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.240
  • AND OPEN UP YOUR SOUL, AND
  • 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:21.180
  • OPEN UP YOUR DREAMS.
  • 00:19:21.180 --> 00:19:23.080
  • OPEN UP YOUR IMAGINATION AND
  • 00:19:23.080 --> 00:19:24.170
  • STOP TRYING TO MAKE OUT AS SMALL
  • 00:19:24.170 --> 00:19:27.050
  • AS YOU, AND LET GOD MAKE YOU AS
  • 00:19:27.050 --> 00:19:30.050
  • BIG AS HIM!
  • 00:19:30.050 --> 00:19:31.070
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:32.270 --> 00:19:35.270
  • - MATT: WE WELCOME YOU RIGHT
  • 00:19:35.270 --> 00:19:36.210
  • WE ARE IN SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, AND
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.090
  • WHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHING AROUND
  • 00:19:42.090 --> 00:19:43.010
  • THE WORLD, WE WELCOME YOU.
  • 00:19:43.010 --> 00:19:43.200
  • - LAURIE: YES!
  • 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:44.280
  • - MATT: OUR GUEST,
  • 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:45.140
  • ERWIN MCMANUS.
  • 00:19:45.140 --> 00:19:46.020
  • LET'S TALK ABOUT CREATIVITY.
  • 00:19:49.040 --> 00:19:50.020
  • WHERE DO WE WANNA GET STARTED IN
  • 00:19:50.020 --> 00:19:50.240
  • THIS DISCUSSION?
  • 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:51.130
  • - ERWIN: WELL, HERE AT THE
  • 00:19:51.130 --> 00:19:52.030
  • HILLSONG CONFERENCE, THEY'VE
  • 00:19:52.030 --> 00:19:53.270
  • ADDED A PARTICULAR SESSION
  • 00:19:53.270 --> 00:19:54.220
  • AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:19:58.200 --> 00:19:59.110
  • DIFFERENT DOMAINS IN WHICH WE
  • 00:19:59.110 --> 00:20:00.020
  • HUMANS LIVE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE
  • 00:20:00.020 --> 00:20:01.030
  • ARTS.
  • 00:20:05.140 --> 00:20:06.100
  • RELIGION IS CONSIDERED A DOMAIN,
  • 00:20:06.100 --> 00:20:07.020
  • FAMILY.
  • 00:20:07.020 --> 00:20:07.120
  • AND PART OF THE FOCUS IS REALLY
  • 00:20:07.120 --> 00:20:09.270
  • THAT WE SHOULDN'T ISOLATE OUR
  • 00:20:09.270 --> 00:20:10.180
  • FAITH INTO SIMPLY, LIKE, A
  • 00:20:10.270 --> 00:20:13.270
  • RELIGIOUS DOMAIN, BUT WE SHOULD
  • 00:20:13.270 --> 00:20:14.200
  • ACTUALLY IMPACT EVERY DOMAIN,
  • 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:15.160
  • WHETHER IT'S POLITICS OR
  • 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.040
  • BUSINESS OR EDUCATION OR ARTS,
  • 00:20:18.260 --> 00:20:21.260
  • WHICH REALLY MATCHES REALLY WELL
  • 00:20:21.260 --> 00:20:22.180
  • WITH THE THEMES OF "THE ARTISAN
  • 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:24.100
  • SOUL."
  • 00:20:24.100 --> 00:20:25.050
  • AND SO I SPEND MY TIME TALKING
  • 00:20:25.050 --> 00:20:26.130
  • ABOUT HOW THE DOMAINS,
  • 00:20:26.130 --> 00:20:28.220
  • THOSE SPHERES ARE ACTUALLY
  • 00:20:28.220 --> 00:20:29.230
  • CANVASES UPON WHICH HUMANS PAINT
  • 00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:32.220
  • BECAUSE EVERY HUMAN BEING IS A
  • 00:20:32.220 --> 00:20:35.000
  • WORK OF ART AND AN ARTIST AT
  • 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:35.280
  • WORK.
  • 00:20:35.280 --> 00:20:37.100
  • AND SO WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE
  • 00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:38.110
  • FIELD OF EDUCATION OR WHETHER
  • 00:20:38.110 --> 00:20:39.040
  • YOU'RE AN ENTREPRENEUR IN THE
  • 00:20:39.040 --> 00:20:40.230
  • BUSINESS WORLD OR WHETHER YOU'RE
  • 00:20:40.230 --> 00:20:41.210
  • IN THE WORLD OF ARTS AND
  • 00:20:41.210 --> 00:20:43.040
  • ENTERTAINMENT LIKE YOURSELVES,
  • 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:45.080
  • OR WHETHER A PERSON'S THE PASTOR
  • 00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:47.200
  • OF A CHURCH, EVERY ONE OF US IS
  • 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:50.280
  • REALLY SPENDING OUR LIVES,
  • 00:20:50.280 --> 00:20:52.190
  • TRYING TO CREATE A MASTERPIECE.
  • 00:20:52.190 --> 00:20:53.110
  • AND WHAT WE DO IN THOSE
  • 00:20:53.110 --> 00:20:55.220
  • ENVIRONMENTS, BRINGING OUR
  • 00:20:56.030 --> 00:20:59.030
  • PASSIONS, OUR TALENTS, OUR
  • 00:20:59.030 --> 00:20:59.220
  • GIFTING, OUR INTELLIGENCE, OUR
  • 00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:01.000
  • SOULS, EVERY PART OF US, THAT'S
  • 00:21:01.070 --> 00:21:04.070
  • OUR CREATIVE WORK IN LIFE.
  • 00:21:04.070 --> 00:21:05.260
  • THERE ARE POINTS IN HISTORY
  • 00:21:05.260 --> 00:21:07.120
  • WHERE PEOPLE OF FAITH FEEL
  • 00:21:07.190 --> 00:21:10.190
  • OVERWHELMED BY THE DARKNESS OF
  • 00:21:10.190 --> 00:21:12.200
  • THE WORLD AROUND THEM, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:16.170
  • WHETHER IT'S POLITICAL OR
  • 00:21:16.170 --> 00:21:17.070
  • WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC.
  • 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.000
  • I THINK SOMETIMES OUR FAITH HAS
  • 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:21.220
  • BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD, AND THE
  • 00:21:22.090 --> 00:21:25.090
  • CHURCH IS MISUNDERSTOOD, SO THE
  • 00:21:25.090 --> 00:21:27.070
  • CHURCH BECOMES ALMOST LIKE A
  • 00:21:27.070 --> 00:21:29.090
  • FORTRESS WHERE WE CAN HIDE FROM
  • 00:21:29.090 --> 00:21:30.100
  • THE WORLD AROUND US.
  • 00:21:30.100 --> 00:21:32.010
  • 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A
  • 00:21:32.010 --> 00:21:32.260
  • REALLY POLITICALLY DANGEROUS
  • 00:21:32.260 --> 00:21:34.070
  • WORLD, YOU CAN FEEL LIKE THE
  • 00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:35.120
  • WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST YOU, AND
  • 00:21:35.120 --> 00:21:37.060
  • I THINK SOMETIMES WHAT'S
  • 00:21:37.060 --> 00:21:39.020
  • HAPPENED IS THE CHURCH HAS SEEN
  • 00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:40.240
  • ITSELF ALMOST AT WAR WITH THE
  • 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.030
  • WORLD, AND SO EVEN THE LANGUAGE
  • 00:21:42.150 --> 00:21:45.150
  • OF THE WORLD IS A VERY NEGATIVE
  • 00:21:45.150 --> 00:21:46.140
  • LANGUAGE.
  • 00:21:46.140 --> 00:21:47.240
  • BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME,
  • 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.130
  • AND I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS
  • 00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.040
  • TODAY IS THAT, WHEN ISRAEL WAS
  • 00:21:51.040 --> 00:21:52.240
  • TAKEN CAPTIVE BY THE
  • 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.170
  • BABYLONIANS, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE
  • 00:21:54.170 --> 00:21:56.170
  • A MORE DARK METAPHOR THAN
  • 00:21:56.170 --> 00:21:57.130
  • BABYLON, RIGHT?
  • 00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:59.200
  • WHEN WE THINK OF BABYLON, WE
  • 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.190
  • THINK OF THE WORLD IN ITS WORST
  • 00:22:00.190 --> 00:22:01.120
  • CONDITION.
  • 00:22:01.120 --> 00:22:03.150
  • YET, WHAT GOD SAYS TO JEREMIAH
  • 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:04.060
  • AND TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL IS
  • 00:22:04.060 --> 00:22:05.160
  • HE SAYS, "'I KNOW THE PLANS I
  • 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.180
  • HAVE FOR YOU,' DECLARES THE
  • 00:22:07.180 --> 00:22:08.080
  • LORD, 'PLANS WITH WELFARE, NOT
  • 00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:09.200
  • DESTRUCTION, WITH A FUTURE AND A
  • 00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:14.190
  • HOPE.'"
  • 00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:16.090
  • AND WHAT GOD IS ACTUALLY SAYING
  • 00:22:16.090 --> 00:22:17.010
  • TO THEM THERE, HE SAYS,
  • 00:22:17.010 --> 00:22:17.290
  • "I WANT YOU TO GO INTO THE CITY,
  • 00:22:17.290 --> 00:22:18.260
  • AND I WANT YOU TO BUILD HOUSES
  • 00:22:18.260 --> 00:22:20.200
  • AND HAVE CHILDREN AND HAVE
  • 00:22:21.060 --> 00:22:24.060
  • FAMILIES."
  • 00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:24.210
  • AND THEN HE SAYS,
  • 00:22:24.210 --> 00:22:26.210
  • "FOR WHEN THE CITY PROSPERS, YOU
  • 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:27.130
  • WILL PROSPER."
  • 00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:28.160
  • I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE
  • 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.040
  • GOT IT WRONG: WE THOUGHT WE
  • 00:22:29.040 --> 00:22:29.240
  • SHOULD PULL OURSELVES OUT OF
  • 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.100
  • THE WORLD SO THAT GOD WILL
  • 00:22:31.100 --> 00:22:32.250
  • PROSPER US, RATHER THAN
  • 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:34.060
  • GIVE OURSELVES TO SERVE THE
  • 00:22:34.060 --> 00:22:35.090
  • WORLD.
  • 00:22:35.090 --> 00:22:37.290
  • BECAUSE, WHEN WE BECOME A
  • 00:22:37.290 --> 00:22:38.180
  • BLESSING TO THE WORLD, WHEN THEY
  • 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:39.270
  • PROSPER, THEN WE'LL PROSPER.
  • 00:22:39.270 --> 00:22:41.260
  • SO I THINK WE REALLY, IN SOME
  • 00:22:41.260 --> 00:22:42.280
  • SENSE, HAD A REALLY BAD
  • 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:44.180
  • THEOLOGY.
  • 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:46.220
  • WE THOUGHT THAT WHAT IT MEANT TO
  • 00:22:46.220 --> 00:22:48.140
  • BE THE CHURCH, TO BE SANCTIFIED,
  • 00:22:48.140 --> 00:22:49.200
  • TO BE HOLY, WAS TO PULL
  • 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.070
  • OURSELVES OUT OF THE WORLD
  • 00:22:52.070 --> 00:22:52.260
  • RATHER THAN TO DIVE RIGHT INTO
  • 00:22:52.260 --> 00:22:54.160
  • THAT WORLD AND BE A BLESSING TO
  • 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.210
  • THAT WORLD.
  • 00:22:55.210 --> 00:22:57.060
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:22:57.060 --> 00:22:58.170
  • OKAY.
  • 00:22:58.170 --> 00:22:59.070
  • YOU JUST DROPPED A BOMB RIGHT
  • 00:22:59.070 --> 00:23:00.240
  • HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
  • 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:01.130
  • HILLSONG CONFERENCE, AND I DON'T
  • 00:23:01.130 --> 00:23:02.240
  • WANNA GO FAR FROM THAT.
  • 00:23:03.110 --> 00:23:06.110
  • I WANT YOU TO KEEP TALKING IN
  • 00:23:06.110 --> 00:23:07.030
  • THAT VEIN.
  • 00:23:07.030 --> 00:23:09.160
  • BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
  • 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.060
  • THAT, IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, OUR
  • 00:23:10.060 --> 00:23:11.110
  • GUEST, ERWIN MCMANUS-- AND ON
  • 00:23:11.110 --> 00:23:12.070
  • CUE, LIKE SOMEBODY HAD PLANNED
  • 00:23:12.070 --> 00:23:13.160
  • IT, THERE WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE
  • 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.260
  • COMING DOWN THE ESCALATOR BEHIND
  • 00:23:15.260 --> 00:23:18.010
  • YOU, AND THEY WERE HOLDING YOUR
  • 00:23:18.010 --> 00:23:19.200
  • BOOK, "ARTISAN SOUL."
  • 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.190
  • SO I SAW THE LOGO OF YOUR
  • 00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:23.140
  • BOOK GO RIGHT PAST YOUR HEAD
  • 00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:24.050
  • HERE AS WE ARE GOING HERE
  • 00:23:24.050 --> 00:23:26.060
  • AND SO--
  • 00:23:26.060 --> 00:23:28.180
  • - ERWIN: WELL, THAT'S
  • 00:23:28.180 --> 00:23:29.070
  • ENCOURAGING!
  • 00:23:29.070 --> 00:23:29.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:23:29.230 --> 00:23:30.170
  • - MATT: "ARTISAN SOUL" IS
  • 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:31.100
  • REALLY YOUR LATEST BOOK, AND
  • 00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:32.260
  • REALLY BECOMING THE SUBJECT OF
  • 00:23:32.260 --> 00:23:34.120
  • OUR DISCUSSION HERE.
  • 00:23:34.120 --> 00:23:36.020
  • THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS BAD
  • 00:23:36.020 --> 00:23:38.200
  • THEOLOGY AND THAT WE WERE
  • 00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:42.050
  • SUPPOSED TO "BE YE SEPARATE,"
  • 00:23:42.050 --> 00:23:43.290
  • COME OUT FROM AMONGST THE WORLD,
  • 00:23:43.290 --> 00:23:45.190
  • LIKE, "BE YE SEPARATE," WAS MY
  • 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:47.040
  • PARENTS' MANTRA.
  • 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:50.270
  • REMEMBER, IF--
  • 00:23:50.270 --> 00:23:53.000
  • - LAURIE: AND THEIR PARENTS.
  • 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:54.110
  • - MATT: AND THEIR PARENTS.
  • 00:23:54.110 --> 00:23:56.150
  • IF MY MOM AND DAD, PAUL AND JAN
  • 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:59.090
  • CROUCH, THAT THEY HAD TO SAY OF
  • 00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:02.270
  • THEIR PARENTS, "YOU'RE SINCERE
  • 00:24:03.020 --> 00:24:06.020
  • IN YOUR FAITH, BUT YOU'RE
  • 00:24:06.020 --> 00:24:06.280
  • SINCERELY WRONG--" BECAUSE MY
  • 00:24:06.280 --> 00:24:09.060
  • GRANDPARENTS WOULD'VE NEVER
  • 00:24:09.060 --> 00:24:10.250
  • ENDORSED TRINITY BROADCASTING
  • 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:11.170
  • NETWORK.
  • 00:24:11.170 --> 00:24:13.260
  • TELEVISION WAS "EVIL," FILM, YOU
  • 00:24:13.260 --> 00:24:15.150
  • KNOW, RADIO.
  • 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.200
  • MY DAD TELLS THE STORY, AND MY
  • 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.060
  • MOM TELLS THE STORY OF THE
  • 00:24:21.060 --> 00:24:21.250
  • PASTOR COMING OVER TO THE HOUSE.
  • 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:23.020
  • YOU HAD TO PUT YOUR RADIO IN THE
  • 00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:24.020
  • CLOSET--
  • 00:24:24.020 --> 00:24:25.240
  • - LAURIE: COVER IT UP!
  • 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:26.230
  • - MATT: -- MAKE SURE THE PASTOR
  • 00:24:26.230 --> 00:24:27.150
  • DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A RADIO.
  • 00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:28.060
  • AND SO TELEVISION WAS THE
  • 00:24:28.060 --> 00:24:29.140
  • ONE-EYED DEMON MONSTER THAT WAS
  • 00:24:30.010 --> 00:24:33.010
  • GOING TO SUCK THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
  • 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:36.230
  • OUT OF CHRISTIANITY RATHER THAN
  • 00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:37.290
  • JUMPING INTO THE MIDDLE OF IT
  • 00:24:37.290 --> 00:24:39.010
  • AND USING IT FOR THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:24:39.010 --> 00:24:40.210
  • - ERWIN: EVEN THE BIBLICAL WORD
  • 00:24:40.210 --> 00:24:42.090
  • FOR "CHURCH," "EKKLESIA," WHICH
  • 00:24:42.090 --> 00:24:44.290
  • LITERALLY MEANS "TO BE CALLED
  • 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.000
  • OUT," WE INTERPRET THAT AS BEING
  • 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:50.220
  • CALLED OUT FROM THE WORLD RATHER
  • 00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:53.150
  • THAN BEING CALLED OUT TO THE
  • 00:24:53.150 --> 00:24:54.190
  • WORLD.
  • 00:24:54.190 --> 00:24:56.020
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:24:56.020 --> 00:24:56.220
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:24:56.220 --> 00:24:58.260
  • - ERWIN: AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE
  • 00:24:58.260 --> 00:24:59.180
  • INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES HAS
  • 00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:00.210
  • BEEN DISTORTED BY A VIEW THAT WE
  • 00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:02.080
  • NEED TO RUN FROM THE SPHERES,
  • 00:25:02.080 --> 00:25:05.010
  • RUN FROM THOSE DOMAINS, RATHER
  • 00:25:05.010 --> 00:25:07.120
  • THAN ACTUALLY BECOMING THE
  • 00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:09.000
  • CREATIVE FORCE OF GOD TO CREATE
  • 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.190
  • GREAT BUSINESSES THAT DO GOOD IN
  • 00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:13.280
  • THE WORLD, TO CREATE BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:25:13.280 --> 00:25:14.290
  • ART THAT INSPIRES THE WORLD, TO
  • 00:25:14.290 --> 00:25:15.290
  • CREATE GREAT TEACHERS SO WE CAN
  • 00:25:15.290 --> 00:25:18.260
  • EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE A
  • 00:25:18.260 --> 00:25:20.150
  • BEAUTIFUL SENSE OF HOPE AND
  • 00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:22.100
  • CREATIVITY AND ARTISTRY AND
  • 00:25:22.100 --> 00:25:24.140
  • CONFIDENCE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
  • 00:25:24.140 --> 00:25:26.030
  • IN THE WORLD-- AND, FRANKLY,
  • 00:25:26.030 --> 00:25:28.040
  • EVEN WITH THE BOOK, IN FACT, I
  • 00:25:28.040 --> 00:25:29.010
  • PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS
  • 00:25:29.010 --> 00:25:31.000
  • BUT--
  • 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:31.250
  • - LAURIE: OH, GO AHEAD.
  • 00:25:31.250 --> 00:25:32.160
  • - MATT: OH, GO ON!
  • 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:33.070 --> 00:25:34.030
  • - LAURIE: OH, PLEASE!
  • 00:25:34.030 --> 00:25:35.130
  • - ERWIN: ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:25:35.130 --> 00:25:36.140
  • THAT-- SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE MORE
  • 00:25:36.140 --> 00:25:37.280
  • OF AN ARTIST THAN YOU ARE A
  • 00:25:37.280 --> 00:25:39.010
  • MARKETER OR A SALESPERSON, IS
  • 00:25:39.010 --> 00:25:41.170
  • THAT YOU NAME SOMETHING CLOSER
  • 00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:43.150
  • TO WHAT YOU FEEL IN YOUR SOUL
  • 00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:45.040
  • RATHER THAN WHAT ACTUALLY
  • 00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:46.120
  • TRANSLATES WELL TO THE AUDIENCE.
  • 00:25:46.120 --> 00:25:47.230
  • - MATT: GOTCHA.
  • 00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:48.170
  • - ERWIN: AND WHEN I NAMED THE
  • 00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:50.030
  • BOOK ORIGINALLY, IT WAS JUST
  • 00:25:50.030 --> 00:25:50.230
  • CALLED "ARTISAN," BECAUSE, FOR
  • 00:25:50.230 --> 00:25:52.130
  • ME, THAT FELT VERY ARTISTIC, AND
  • 00:25:52.130 --> 00:25:54.010
  • IT CARRIED THE ESSENCE OF MY
  • 00:25:54.010 --> 00:25:54.280
  • SOUL.
  • 00:25:54.280 --> 00:25:57.180
  • AS I LIVED OUT THIS BOOK, I'VE
  • 00:25:57.180 --> 00:25:58.260
  • REALIZED IT SHOULD'VE NEVER BEEN
  • 00:25:58.260 --> 00:26:01.030
  • CALLED "THE ARTISAN SOUL."
  • 00:26:01.030 --> 00:26:01.220
  • IT SHOULD'VE BEEN CALLED "THE
  • 00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:04.210
  • CREATIVE MANIFESTO" BECAUSE
  • 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.000
  • PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE BOOK,
  • 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:08.290
  • GOING, "OH, I'M NOT AN ARTIST.
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:09.290
  • THIS BOOK ISN'T FOR ME."
  • 00:26:09.290 --> 00:26:10.240
  • - MATT: OH, WOW.
  • 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:13.170
  • - ERWIN: AND SO PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:15.070
  • WALKING BY IT, NOT PICKING UP
  • 00:26:15.070 --> 00:26:16.150
  • THE MESSAGE OF THIS BOOK, WHICH
  • 00:26:16.150 --> 00:26:17.080
  • IS ACTUALLY A CREATIVE
  • 00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:18.160
  • MANIFESTO.
  • 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.040
  • IT'S A DECLARATION OF WHAT IT
  • 00:26:20.040 --> 00:26:21.160
  • MEANS TO BE CREATED IN THE IMAGE
  • 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:22.170
  • OF GOD AND THAT WE ARE IMAGINED
  • 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:25.070
  • TO IMAGINE AND CREATED TO
  • 00:26:25.070 --> 00:26:26.100
  • CREATE, THAT EVERY HUMAN BEING
  • 00:26:26.100 --> 00:26:27.200
  • IS A WORK OF ART AND AN ARTIST
  • 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.210
  • AT WORK.
  • 00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:30.130
  • AND SO IF I HAVE ANY REGRET,
  • 00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:33.050
  • IT'S THAT I DIDN'T TRANSLATE THE
  • 00:26:35.040 --> 00:26:38.040
  • TITLE IN A WAY WHERE IT WOULD BE
  • 00:26:38.040 --> 00:26:40.110
  • JUMPING OFF THE SHELF FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:42.050
  • OF FAITH, GOING,
  • 00:26:42.050 --> 00:26:43.060
  • "IT'S TIME FOR US TO CREATE
  • 00:26:43.060 --> 00:26:45.210
  • A REVOLUTION OF CREATIVITY"
  • 00:26:45.210 --> 00:26:47.220
  • 'CAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE THE
  • 00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:49.100
  • BIBLE BACK FROM ALL THOSE PEOPLE
  • 00:26:49.100 --> 00:26:51.000
  • WHO TURNED IT INTO A
  • 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:51.270
  • MANUSCRIPT OF CONFORMITY AND
  • 00:26:51.270 --> 00:26:53.290
  • RECLAIM IT AS OUR MANIFESTO OF
  • 00:26:53.290 --> 00:26:55.130
  • CREATIVITY.
  • 00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:56.170
  • - LAURIE: OKAY.
  • 00:26:56.170 --> 00:26:57.160
  • HOW DO WE DO THAT?
  • 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:58.050
  • GET US STARTED AND EVEN THINKING
  • 00:26:58.050 --> 00:26:59.150
  • THAT DIRECTION.
  • 00:26:59.150 --> 00:27:01.090
  • - ERWIN: WELL, THE MOST OBVIOUS
  • 00:27:01.090 --> 00:27:04.030
  • THING THAT I SHOULD SAY IS "READ
  • 00:27:04.030 --> 00:27:05.070
  • THE BOOK!"
  • 00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:06.030
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT!
  • 00:27:06.030 --> 00:27:06.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:07.160
  • - ERWIN: YEAH!
  • 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:08.120
  • - LAURIE: OKAY!
  • 00:27:08.120 --> 00:27:10.010
  • - ERWIN: AND SOMETIMES IT'S
  • 00:27:10.010 --> 00:27:10.220
  • BECAUSE PEOPLE GO, "HOW DO WE
  • 00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:11.160
  • GET YOU TO HELP US?"
  • 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.200
  • I GO, "THAT'S WHY I WROTE THE
  • 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:13.190
  • BOOK" IS BECAUSE I CAN'T BE
  • 00:27:13.190 --> 00:27:15.040
  • EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES AND
  • 00:27:15.040 --> 00:27:17.040
  • BECAUSE THE FIRST 40 PAGES ARE
  • 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.160
  • JUST A CONVERSATION TO CHANGE
  • 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.160
  • THE WAY YOU THINK ABOUT YOURSELF
  • 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:24.260
  • 'CAUSE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
  • 00:27:25.030 --> 00:27:28.030
  • YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SING,
  • 00:27:28.030 --> 00:27:29.200
  • YOU'LL NEVER OPEN YOUR MOUTH TO
  • 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.190
  • SING.
  • 00:27:30.190 --> 00:27:32.170
  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:27:32.170 --> 00:27:33.280
  • PAINT, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA PICK
  • 00:27:33.280 --> 00:27:35.000
  • UP THE BRUSH AND PAINT.
  • 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.070
  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:27:36.070 --> 00:27:38.020
  • MAKE THE WORLD BETTER, IF YOU
  • 00:27:38.020 --> 00:27:39.030
  • DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN CREATE,
  • 00:27:39.030 --> 00:27:40.140
  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOUR
  • 00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:41.280
  • IMAGINATION ISN'T JUST SOME
  • 00:27:41.280 --> 00:27:43.270
  • ARBITRARY HUMAN DYNAMIC-- THAT
  • 00:27:43.270 --> 00:27:46.150
  • IT'S GOD'S PLAYGROUND WHERE HE
  • 00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:48.180
  • PUTS HIS DREAMS AND HIS VISIONS
  • 00:27:48.180 --> 00:27:50.240
  • INTO YOUR SOUL AND THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.200
  • SUPPOSED TO HAVE DREAMS AND
  • 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:53.260
  • VISIONS OF A FUTURE THAT GOD
  • 00:27:53.260 --> 00:27:55.120
  • WANTS TO CREATE IN YOU AND
  • 00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:56.140
  • THROUGH YOU.
  • 00:27:56.290 --> 00:27:59.290
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:27:59.290 --> 00:28:01.010
  • THERE'S SOMEONE WATCHING RIGHT
  • 00:28:01.010 --> 00:28:02.170
  • NOW WHO LOVES TO DANCE, SING,
  • 00:28:03.110 --> 00:28:06.110
  • PAINT, TWIRL, ALL THOSE THINGS,
  • 00:28:06.130 --> 00:28:09.130
  • AND THEY THINK IT'S USELESS OR
  • 00:28:09.130 --> 00:28:10.230
  • IT'S A SIDEBAR, AND YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:28:10.230 --> 00:28:12.100
  • TOUCH SOME PEOPLE.
  • 00:28:12.100 --> 00:28:14.050
  • IF YOU'D LOOK INTO THE CAMERA
  • 00:28:14.050 --> 00:28:15.170
  • AND JUST UNPACK THAT AND GIVE
  • 00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.180
  • THEM PERMISSION TO BE AN ARTISAN
  • 00:28:17.180 --> 00:28:20.050
  • AND TO USE THAT IN A WAY TO
  • 00:28:20.050 --> 00:28:21.120
  • GLORIFY GOD.
  • 00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:23.110
  • I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HELP A LOT
  • 00:28:23.110 --> 00:28:24.150
  • OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:25.260
  • - ERWIN: AND THEN I THINK IT
  • 00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.260
  • EVEN GOES SO FAR BEYOND THAT.
  • 00:28:26.260 --> 00:28:28.070
  • I MEAN, WHAT I FIND IS, I GET
  • 00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:30.210
  • E-MAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM
  • 00:28:31.020 --> 00:28:34.020
  • ALL OVER THE WORLD FROM PEOPLE
  • 00:28:34.020 --> 00:28:35.160
  • IN THE ARTS, FROM WRITERS AND
  • 00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.220
  • DIRECTORS, FROM DANCERS AND
  • 00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:39.140
  • PAINTERS, FROM ARTISTS WHO NEVER
  • 00:28:39.140 --> 00:28:40.180
  • FELT THAT THEIR CREATIVE ESSENCE
  • 00:28:42.120 --> 00:28:45.120
  • FIT INTO GOD'S AGENDA IN THE
  • 00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:47.110
  • WORLD.
  • 00:28:47.110 --> 00:28:48.110
  • THEY WERE TOLD ALL THEIR LIFE
  • 00:28:48.110 --> 00:28:49.090
  • THAT THEIR CREATIVITY DIDN'T
  • 00:28:49.090 --> 00:28:50.250
  • HAVE A PLACE IN THE CHURCH OR IN
  • 00:28:50.250 --> 00:28:53.120
  • GOD'S NARRATIVE FOR HUMANITY.
  • 00:28:53.260 --> 00:28:56.260
  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT YOU
  • 00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:58.130
  • TO REALIZE IS THAT YOU ARE A
  • 00:28:58.130 --> 00:28:59.190
  • CREATIVE BEING BECAUSE YOU WERE
  • 00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:02.250
  • CREATED BY GOD.
  • 00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:04.010
  • YOUR CREATIVITY ISN'T AT WAR
  • 00:29:04.010 --> 00:29:05.090
  • WITH GOD.
  • 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.000
  • IT'S ACTUALLY A REFLECTION OF
  • 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:09.220
  • GOD.
  • 00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:10.140
  • BUT THERE'S MORE THAN THAT.
  • 00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:11.090
  • THERE ARE SOME OF YOU THAT ARE
  • 00:29:11.090 --> 00:29:12.050
  • NOT PAINTERS OR DANCERS OR A
  • 00:29:12.050 --> 00:29:13.180
  • ARTISANS THE WAY THAT WE THINK
  • 00:29:13.180 --> 00:29:14.290
  • OF THAT CONVENTIONALLY.
  • 00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:18.120
  • SOME OF YOU ARE MOMS WHO ARE
  • 00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:19.040
  • JUST SO CREATIVE IN THE WAY YOU
  • 00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:19.260
  • PARENT.
  • 00:29:19.260 --> 00:29:20.100
  • SOME OF YOU ARE TEACHERS THAT
  • 00:29:20.100 --> 00:29:21.130
  • ARE JUST SO UNORTHODOX IN THE
  • 00:29:21.130 --> 00:29:22.260
  • WAY THAT YOU EDUCATE, AND YOU'VE
  • 00:29:22.260 --> 00:29:24.080
  • ALWAYS FELT TERRIBLE BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:29:24.080 --> 00:29:25.240
  • JUST SIMPLY COULD NOT SEE THE
  • 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.230
  • WORLD THE WAY EVERYONE ELSE SAW
  • 00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:29.120
  • THE WORLD.
  • 00:29:29.120 --> 00:29:30.100
  • AND I WANT YOU TO FEEL THIS
  • 00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:31.240
  • INCREDIBLE SENSE OF FREEDOM THAT
  • 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.090
  • GOD CREATED YOU IN YOUR
  • 00:29:33.090 --> 00:29:35.110
  • UNIQUENESS, THAT HE DID NOT
  • 00:29:35.110 --> 00:29:37.020
  • CREATE YOU TO BE CONFORMED OR
  • 00:29:37.020 --> 00:29:38.160
  • STANDARDIZED OR TO COMPLY TO
  • 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.160
  • WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS YOU
  • 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:41.150
  • SHOULD BE.
  • 00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:43.120
  • YOUR ONLY STANDARD IS THE
  • 00:29:43.120 --> 00:29:44.200
  • FINGERPRINT OF GOD ON YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.190
  • AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR
  • 00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:49.080
  • EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER USED THE
  • 00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:51.030
  • NAME OF JESUS TO TELL YOU THAT
  • 00:29:51.030 --> 00:29:54.010
  • YOU NEED TO BE CONFORMED OR
  • 00:29:54.010 --> 00:29:56.110
  • STANDARDIZED OR CLONED TO
  • 00:29:56.110 --> 00:29:58.070
  • EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD
  • 00:29:58.070 --> 00:30:00.210
  • BECAUSE JESUS IS THE
  • 00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:03.100
  • REVOLUTIONARY WHO UNLOCKS YOUR
  • 00:30:03.100 --> 00:30:05.110
  • CREATIVITY, WHO UNLOCKS YOUR
  • 00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:07.070
  • UNIQUENESS, WHO UNLOCKS THAT
  • 00:30:07.070 --> 00:30:08.000
  • ASPECT OF WHO YOU ARE THAT
  • 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:09.200
  • REFLECTS GOD MOST BEAUTIFULLY,
  • 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.070
  • AND IN THAT YOU ARE LIKE NO ONE
  • 00:30:11.070 --> 00:30:13.000
  • ELSE IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.100
  • I'M JUST GONNA BE REALLY HONEST.
  • 00:30:15.100 --> 00:30:16.220
  • IF FOLLOWING JESUS MEANT LOSING
  • 00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:19.100
  • MY UNIQUENESS, IF IT MEANT
  • 00:30:19.100 --> 00:30:21.070
  • STANDARDIZING MY SOUL AND
  • 00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:25.170
  • BECOMING LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I
  • 00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:26.210
  • WOULD NOT BE TELLING YOU THAT
  • 00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:28.000
  • JESUS IS THE WAY.
  • 00:30:28.030 --> 00:30:31.030
  • BUT WHEN YOU TRUST JESUS WITH
  • 00:30:31.030 --> 00:30:32.010
  • YOUR LIFE, WHEN YOU FOLLOW HIM,
  • 00:30:32.010 --> 00:30:33.180
  • YOU FIND A FREEDOM THAT COMES
  • 00:30:33.180 --> 00:30:36.070
  • FROM NO ONE ELSE.
  • 00:30:36.070 --> 00:30:38.180
  • YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO WORRY
  • 00:30:38.180 --> 00:30:39.210
  • ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK,
  • 00:30:39.210 --> 00:30:40.130
  • WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY.
  • 00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:41.220
  • YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO LIVE TO
  • 00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:42.240
  • THE STANDARDS OF ANYONE ELSE
  • 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.210
  • BECAUSE "HE WHO THE SON SETS
  • 00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:47.160
  • FREE IS FREE INDEED."
  • 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.040
  • - MATT: WOW!
  • 00:30:49.040 --> 00:30:51.140
  • YOU KNOW, YOU ARE NOT NORMAL.
  • 00:30:53.190 --> 00:30:56.190
  • YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:57.170
  • YOU ARE A--
  • 00:30:57.170 --> 00:30:58.190
  • - LAURIE: AMAZING!
  • 00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:00.130
  • - MATT: -- AMAZING,
  • 00:31:00.130 --> 00:31:03.040
  • OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKER.
  • 00:31:03.040 --> 00:31:04.000
  • I WANNA TELL THAT, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.220
  • YOU'RE HERE-- WE'RE HERE IN
  • 00:31:05.220 --> 00:31:07.190
  • SYDNEY, WHEREVER YOU'RE
  • 00:31:07.190 --> 00:31:08.070
  • WATCHING.
  • 00:31:08.070 --> 00:31:10.030
  • STAY WITH US.
  • 00:31:10.030 --> 00:31:10.190
  • WE'RE GONNA BE BOUNCING IN AND
  • 00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:11.230
  • OUT OF THE HILLSONG CONFERENCE
  • 00:31:11.230 --> 00:31:13.140
  • HERE IN SYDNEY.
  • 00:31:13.140 --> 00:31:14.160
  • AMAZING!
  • 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.150
  • ALL THE PEOPLE HERE WILL BE
  • 00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:16.140
  • RUNNING IN AND OUT AND JOINING
  • 00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:19.180
  • THE CONFERENCE, AND WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:31:19.180 --> 00:31:20.250
  • TAKE YOU IN AND OUT OF THE
  • 00:31:20.250 --> 00:31:21.280
  • CONFERENCE.
  • 00:31:21.280 --> 00:31:22.160
  • CONFERENCE SPEAKER,
  • 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.260
  • ERWIN MCMANUS.
  • 00:31:23.260 --> 00:31:24.260
  • ERWIN IS PASTORING MOSAIC CHURCH
  • 00:31:25.230 --> 00:31:28.230
  • IN LOS ANGELES.
  • 00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.060
  • I WAS IN MOSAIC CHURCH, AND WHAT
  • 00:31:30.060 --> 00:31:32.280
  • I FOUND IS THAT YOUR LIFE IS
  • 00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:38.150
  • ABOUT, NOT ABOUT ADDRESSING
  • 00:31:38.150 --> 00:31:40.000
  • ISSUES THAT GET ADDRESSED AT
  • 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.150
  • EVERY CHURCH, EVERYWHERE IN THE
  • 00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:42.080
  • WORLD.
  • 00:31:42.080 --> 00:31:43.070
  • IT'S ABOUT DEALING WITH THE
  • 00:31:43.070 --> 00:31:44.140
  • ISSUES THAT DON'T GET ADDRESSED.
  • 00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:45.290
  • YOU'RE PREACHING, REALLY, FOR
  • 00:31:45.290 --> 00:31:47.240
  • THE PEOPLE WALKING BY YOUR
  • 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.080
  • CHURCH, NOT THE ONES THAT ARE
  • 00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:51.170
  • REALLY SITTING IN THAT CHURCH.
  • 00:31:51.170 --> 00:31:52.160
  • AND MOSAIC AND YOUR MINISTRY, IN
  • 00:31:52.170 --> 00:31:55.170
  • GENERAL, IS LIKE A VACUUM,
  • 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:59.080
  • THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:31:59.080 --> 00:31:59.290
  • DON'T EVER GET THOUGHT ABOUT AS
  • 00:31:59.290 --> 00:32:01.110
  • MUCH.
  • 00:32:01.110 --> 00:32:03.080
  • IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
  • 00:32:03.080 --> 00:32:03.270
  • - ERWIN: IT REALLY IS.
  • 00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:06.220
  • AND, IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, MY
  • 00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:07.130
  • KIDS HAVE TRIED TO REMIND ME
  • 00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:08.080
  • THAT I SHOULD CARE ABOUT
  • 00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:09.030
  • CHRISTIANS TOO.
  • 00:32:09.030 --> 00:32:10.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:10.150 --> 00:32:12.260
  • AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T.
  • 00:32:12.260 --> 00:32:14.050
  • IT'S JUST THAT I'M NOT THE
  • 00:32:14.050 --> 00:32:17.020
  • SOURCE OF WHAT PEOPLE NEED, SO I
  • 00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:18.200
  • KNOW THAT ONCE YOU HAVE THAT
  • 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.180
  • SOURCE, ONCE YOU'VE COME INTO A
  • 00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:23.040
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS, YOU
  • 00:32:23.040 --> 00:32:25.280
  • ACTUALLY HAVE THE SOURCE, SO
  • 00:32:25.280 --> 00:32:27.070
  • WHAT YOU NEED MOST, AND SO I
  • 00:32:27.220 --> 00:32:30.220
  • FEEL LIKE I BECOME LESS VALUABLE
  • 00:32:30.220 --> 00:32:31.140
  • TO YOU.
  • 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:33.120
  • AND SO I DO HAVE A DEEP BURDEN,
  • 00:32:33.120 --> 00:32:36.060
  • AND I JUST LOVE PEOPLE, AND IT
  • 00:32:36.060 --> 00:32:37.170
  • ACTUALLY BREAKS MY HEART TO KNOW
  • 00:32:38.110 --> 00:32:41.110
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL ALONE
  • 00:32:41.110 --> 00:32:43.000
  • IN THE WORLD AND WHO DON'T KNOW
  • 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.100
  • THAT THEY MATTER.
  • 00:32:45.100 --> 00:32:46.190
  • AND I ALSO THINK THAT-- I DON'T
  • 00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:48.040
  • KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS, BUT THERE
  • 00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:50.050
  • ARE REALLY SMART PEOPLE OUT
  • 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.240
  • THERE WHO DON'T THINK GOD IS A
  • 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.020
  • LEGITIMATE OPTION BECAUSE
  • 00:32:56.020 --> 00:32:57.290
  • THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:01.190
  • COMMUNICATE ON THEIR WAVELENGTH.
  • 00:33:01.190 --> 00:33:04.030
  • THEY ARE REALLY CREATIVE,
  • 00:33:04.030 --> 00:33:05.240
  • INTUITIVE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
  • 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.050
  • JUST DON'T SEE JESUS AS A
  • 00:33:08.050 --> 00:33:09.140
  • REALISTIC OPTION BECAUSE THERE
  • 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:10.190
  • ARE PEOPLE--
  • 00:33:10.190 --> 00:33:12.050
  • NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING
  • 00:33:12.050 --> 00:33:14.180
  • ON THEIR FREQUENCY.
  • 00:33:14.180 --> 00:33:15.170
  • AND I FEEL LIKE A PART OF MY OWN
  • 00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:16.090
  • BURDEN AND MY OWN MISSION IN
  • 00:33:16.090 --> 00:33:17.210
  • LIFE IS TO TRY TO TRANSLATE WHO
  • 00:33:17.210 --> 00:33:18.210
  • JESUS IS FOR PEOPLE FOR WHOM IT
  • 00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:22.150
  • DOESN'T MAKE SENSE STILL, YOU
  • 00:33:22.290 --> 00:33:25.290
  • KNOW?
  • 00:33:25.290 --> 00:33:26.170
  • IN FACT, I WROTE DOWN IN MY
  • 00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:27.280
  • NOTES THAT MY PRAYER IS THAT
  • 00:33:30.100 --> 00:33:33.100
  • SOMEHOW I COULD HAVE A
  • 00:33:33.100 --> 00:33:34.210
  • CONVERSATION WITH THE WORLD.
  • 00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:37.040
  • AND, BY THE WAY, I JUST WANNA
  • 00:33:37.040 --> 00:33:37.270
  • SAY FOR YOU GUYS, I KNOW IT WAS
  • 00:33:37.270 --> 00:33:38.280
  • A HUGE LOSS IN LOSING YOUR DAD
  • 00:33:38.280 --> 00:33:41.160
  • AND YOUR MOM, AND I KNOW THAT
  • 00:33:42.180 --> 00:33:45.180
  • YOU HAVE SUCH LOVE AND RESPECT
  • 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:48.130
  • FOR ALL THAT THEY DID, BUT I
  • 00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:51.020
  • ALSO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN
  • 00:33:51.020 --> 00:33:52.160
  • THINGS IN YOUR HEARTS THAT
  • 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.140
  • YOU'VE WANTED TO DO THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:54.210
  • BEEN REALLY PATIENT IN HONORING
  • 00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:57.180
  • THE WAY TO DO 'EM.
  • 00:33:57.180 --> 00:34:00.160
  • AND I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT
  • 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.030
  • THE FUTURE OF TBN IS AND TO SEE
  • 00:34:02.030 --> 00:34:04.220
  • HOW YOU WILL CREATE PLATFORMS
  • 00:34:06.020 --> 00:34:09.020
  • FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT VOICES
  • 00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:12.080
  • THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO SERIOUSLY
  • 00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:13.260
  • CONSIDER WHO JESUS IS AND WILL
  • 00:34:16.010 --> 00:34:19.010
  • BE DRAWN TO THE WONDER OF WHO
  • 00:34:19.010 --> 00:34:21.290
  • GOD IS.
  • 00:34:21.290 --> 00:34:22.290
  • AND SO I JUST WANNA TELL YOU I'M
  • 00:34:22.290 --> 00:34:24.220
  • SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE STAYED
  • 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.000
  • IN THERE AND HAVE REALLY SERVED
  • 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.240
  • AND HAVE REALLY HONORED YOUR
  • 00:34:31.240 --> 00:34:33.030
  • PARENTS AND HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL
  • 00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:37.170
  • BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK THIS
  • 00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:38.130
  • IS, LIKE, YOUR TIME WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:34:38.130 --> 00:34:39.050
  • GONNA CREATE A GLOBAL
  • 00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:43.130
  • CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO JESUS IS,
  • 00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:44.240
  • AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
  • 00:34:44.240 --> 00:34:46.100
  • TURN UP.
  • 00:34:46.100 --> 00:34:48.030
  • - MATT: WELL, I'M NOT DOIN' IT
  • 00:34:48.030 --> 00:34:48.250
  • WITHOUT YOU SO--
  • 00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:49.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:49.160 --> 00:34:50.030
  • - LAURIE: YOU'RE A HUGE PART OF
  • 00:34:50.030 --> 00:34:50.260
  • THAT!
  • 00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:51.120
  • - MATT: YOU'RE A BIG PIECE OF
  • 00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:52.030
  • THAT, ERWIN.
  • 00:34:52.030 --> 00:34:52.150
  • AND, LOOK, WE BASICALLY HAVE
  • 00:34:54.100 --> 00:34:57.100
  • BEEN BOUNCING IN AND OUT OF
  • 00:34:57.100 --> 00:34:58.060
  • YOUR--
  • 00:34:58.060 --> 00:34:58.210
  • FROM THE BIG STAGE HERE
  • 00:34:58.210 --> 00:34:59.250
  • AND OUR CONVERSATION.
  • 00:34:59.250 --> 00:35:02.110
  • YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION
  • 00:35:02.240 --> 00:35:05.240
  • SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD, AND,
  • 00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:06.140
  • JUST, IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT
  • 00:35:07.220 --> 00:35:10.220
  • IS TO FIND FAITH IN JESUS, I'D
  • 00:35:10.220 --> 00:35:12.100
  • LOVE FOR YOU TO, JUST, TALK TO
  • 00:35:12.100 --> 00:35:14.210
  • THEM ABOUT WHAT THAT IS.
  • 00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:18.170
  • AND FINAL THOUGHTS ARE YOURS,
  • 00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:20.270
  • PLEASE, SIR.
  • 00:35:20.270 --> 00:35:21.290
  • - ERWIN: YEAH.
  • 00:35:22.160 --> 00:35:25.160
  • MATT AND LAURIE KNOW THIS IS AN
  • 00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:26.240
  • INCREDIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE THING
  • 00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:27.150
  • FOR ME.
  • 00:35:27.150 --> 00:35:28.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:28.290 --> 00:35:29.180
  • - MATT: YES!
  • 00:35:29.180 --> 00:35:30.060
  • - ERWIN: AND, YOU KNOW, THEY
  • 00:35:30.060 --> 00:35:31.120
  • ENDLESSLY PUT ME ON THE SPOT.
  • 00:35:31.120 --> 00:35:33.100
  • - ERWIN: AND SOME OF IT IS THAT
  • 00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:37.280
  • I WAS THE LEAST LIKELY PERSON TO
  • 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.200
  • YET AT THE SAME TIME, I WAS ALSO
  • 00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:44.130
  • THE PERSON WHO DESPERATELY
  • 00:35:44.130 --> 00:35:45.020
  • WANTED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:35:45.020 --> 00:35:47.110
  • ABOUT LIFE, ABOUT GOD, ABOUT
  • 00:35:47.110 --> 00:35:48.040
  • WHETHER THERE WAS ANY MEANING IN
  • 00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:50.090
  • MY LIFE AT ALL.
  • 00:35:50.090 --> 00:35:52.150
  • AND I FOUND IN THE MOST
  • 00:35:52.170 --> 00:35:55.170
  • UNEXPECTED OF WAYS THAT, IN
  • 00:35:55.170 --> 00:35:58.070
  • MOMENTS LIKE THIS, THERE'LL BE
  • 00:35:58.070 --> 00:36:00.210
  • SOMEONE WHO'S ACTUALLY WATCHING
  • 00:36:00.210 --> 00:36:01.270
  • AND SOMEONE WHO'S LISTENING.
  • 00:36:01.270 --> 00:36:03.240
  • I'VE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM ALL
  • 00:36:03.240 --> 00:36:06.210
  • OVER THE PLACE FROM PHDS AND
  • 00:36:06.210 --> 00:36:08.020
  • INTELLECTUALS AND ACADEMICS AND
  • 00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:10.150
  • ATHEISTS WHO HAVE SAID, "I WAS
  • 00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:13.000
  • JUST CHANGING CHANNELS, AND THEN
  • 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:14.230
  • I HEARD YOU TALKING, AND I DON'T
  • 00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:18.030
  • KNOW WHY, BUT I STOPPED."
  • 00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:19.010
  • AND MAYBE THAT'S YOU RIGHT
  • 00:36:19.010 --> 00:36:20.000
  • NOW.
  • 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.280
  • MAYBE YOU'RE SURPRISED YOU'RE
  • 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.080
  • LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION
  • 00:36:23.080 --> 00:36:23.290
  • RIGHT NOW, AND IT MAY BE THAT
  • 00:36:23.290 --> 00:36:25.190
  • RIGHT NOW IN YOUR LIFE, YOU
  • 00:36:25.190 --> 00:36:26.250
  • MIGHT ACTUALLY JUST BE AT THE
  • 00:36:26.250 --> 00:36:28.090
  • END OF YOURSELF.
  • 00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:28.270
  • WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I FIND
  • 00:36:28.270 --> 00:36:31.000
  • SO OFTENTIMES IS THAT WE CAN
  • 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.090
  • LOOK SO GOOD TO OTHER PEOPLE,
  • 00:36:32.090 --> 00:36:33.260
  • AND WE CAN LOOK SO TOGETHER AND
  • 00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:36.100
  • SO PUT TOGETHER, BUT INSIDE
  • 00:36:36.100 --> 00:36:38.190
  • WE'RE JUST FALLING APART, AND
  • 00:36:38.190 --> 00:36:39.130
  • OUR SOULS ARE EMPTY, AND WE'RE
  • 00:36:39.130 --> 00:36:41.010
  • JUST GASPING FOR BREATH, AND IF
  • 00:36:41.010 --> 00:36:43.080
  • THAT'S YOU, I JUST WANT YOU TO
  • 00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:44.200
  • KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THAT YOUR
  • 00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:45.290
  • LIFE IS NOT AN ACCIDENT, THAT
  • 00:36:45.290 --> 00:36:48.120
  • THE REASON THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS
  • 00:36:48.120 --> 00:36:50.160
  • TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT,
  • 00:36:50.160 --> 00:36:52.240
  • TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF YOUR
  • 00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:54.050
  • LIFE IS THAT YOUR LIFE IS
  • 00:36:54.050 --> 00:36:55.140
  • SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE, BUT IT
  • 00:36:55.140 --> 00:36:57.140
  • DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHILE YOU'RE
  • 00:36:57.140 --> 00:36:59.200
  • DISCONNECTED FROM THE ONE WHO
  • 00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:00.190
  • CREATED YOU.
  • 00:37:00.190 --> 00:37:02.060
  • I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE IS
  • 00:37:02.060 --> 00:37:04.080
  • A GOD WHO SEES YOU, WHO KNOWS
  • 00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:06.000
  • YOU, WHO VALUES YOU, WHO LOVES
  • 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.220
  • YOU BECAUSE HE CREATED YOU IN
  • 00:37:08.220 --> 00:37:10.020
  • HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS.
  • 00:37:10.020 --> 00:37:11.150
  • HE CREATED YOU FOR A
  • 00:37:11.150 --> 00:37:12.010
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
  • 00:37:12.010 --> 00:37:13.020
  • AND THE REASON YOU LONG FOR
  • 00:37:13.020 --> 00:37:15.020
  • LOVE AND THE REASON YOU LONG FOR
  • 00:37:15.020 --> 00:37:16.100
  • ACCEPTANCE AND THE REASON WE ALL
  • 00:37:16.100 --> 00:37:17.140
  • NEED TO BELONG IS BECAUSE WE'RE
  • 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.280
  • CREATED BY A GOD WHO IS, IN HIS
  • 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.150
  • VERY ESSENCE, LOVE, WHICH IS WHY
  • 00:37:23.150 --> 00:37:24.100
  • JESUS CAME.
  • 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.280
  • THE REASON JESUS STEPPED INTO
  • 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.100
  • HUMAN HISTORY, THE REASON GOD
  • 00:37:30.100 --> 00:37:31.160
  • TOOK ON FLESH AND BLOOD AND
  • 00:37:31.160 --> 00:37:33.070
  • WALKED AMONG US IS THAT, WHEN
  • 00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:34.040
  • IT'S ABOUT LOVE, YOU CANNOT SEND
  • 00:37:34.040 --> 00:37:36.270
  • A LETTER OR JUST SEND A FRIEND
  • 00:37:36.270 --> 00:37:38.100
  • OR SEND A MESSENGER.
  • 00:37:38.100 --> 00:37:40.110
  • GOD STEPPED INTO HUMAN HISTORY
  • 00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:41.280
  • BECAUSE GOD'S ENTIRE INTENTION
  • 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.240
  • TOWARDS YOU IS TO WIN YOU WITH
  • 00:37:43.240 --> 00:37:45.160
  • HIS LOVE.
  • 00:37:45.160 --> 00:37:47.280
  • JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED, BURIED, AND
  • 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.230
  • RAISED FROM THE DEAD, AND PEOPLE
  • 00:37:49.230 --> 00:37:51.090
  • ASK ME ALL THE TIME, "WHY WOULD
  • 00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:52.010
  • GOD HAVE TO BE CRUCIFIED TO
  • 00:37:52.080 --> 00:37:55.080
  • FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS, TO
  • 00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:56.180
  • FORGIVE US OF OUR BROKENNESS, TO
  • 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.040
  • HEAL US?"
  • 00:37:58.040 --> 00:38:00.170
  • I SAID, "BECAUSE THE GREATEST
  • 00:38:00.170 --> 00:38:01.110
  • ACT OF LOVE IS SACRIFICE."
  • 00:38:01.110 --> 00:38:03.140
  • IT MAKES SENSE THAT,
  • 00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:05.030
  • IF THIS IS ALL ABOUT LOVE,
  • 00:38:05.030 --> 00:38:05.260
  • THAT WHAT IT WOULD DEMAND
  • 00:38:05.260 --> 00:38:07.210
  • OF GOD IS SACRIFICE.
  • 00:38:07.220 --> 00:38:10.220
  • AND HE GAVE HIMSELF FOR US SO
  • 00:38:11.150 --> 00:38:14.150
  • THAT WE WOULD NEVER HAVE TO
  • 00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:15.240
  • QUESTION WHETHER WE ARE LOVED.
  • 00:38:15.240 --> 00:38:17.170
  • AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT JESUS IS
  • 00:38:17.170 --> 00:38:19.250
  • THAT HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR YOU OR
  • 00:38:19.250 --> 00:38:21.290
  • FOR ME TO EARN LOVE.
  • 00:38:21.290 --> 00:38:24.170
  • HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR YOU OR FOR
  • 00:38:24.170 --> 00:38:25.110
  • ME TO DESERVE LOVE.
  • 00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:27.080
  • HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR US TO GIVE
  • 00:38:27.080 --> 00:38:28.150
  • OURSELVES IN THE GREAT
  • 00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:29.250
  • SACRIFICE.
  • 00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:31.140
  • HE DID FOR US WHAT WE COULD NOT
  • 00:38:31.140 --> 00:38:33.070
  • DO FOR OURSELVES, AND IT WOULD
  • 00:38:33.070 --> 00:38:34.240
  • BE BEAUTIFUL ENOUGH IF GOD DIED
  • 00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:35.280
  • FOR US, BUT THE STORY DOESN'T
  • 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.280
  • END THERE.
  • 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.200
  • HE WAS CRUCIFIED, BURIED, AND
  • 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.000
  • RAISED FROM THE DEAD SO THAT WE
  • 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.130
  • COULD KNOW THAT HIS LOVE IS MORE
  • 00:38:43.130 --> 00:38:45.000
  • POWERFUL THAN DEATH, THAT HIS
  • 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.170
  • LOVE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN OUR
  • 00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:48.220
  • SIN, MORE POWERFUL THAN OUR
  • 00:38:48.220 --> 00:38:50.040
  • BROKENNESS, MORE POWERFUL THAN
  • 00:38:50.040 --> 00:38:51.220
  • EMPTINESS INSIDE OF US.
  • 00:38:54.160 --> 00:38:57.160
  • AND SO IF YOU'RE LISTENING RIGHT
  • 00:38:57.160 --> 00:38:58.080
  • THIS MOMENT, I JUST WANNA
  • 00:38:58.080 --> 00:38:59.120
  • CHALLENGE YOU.
  • 00:38:59.120 --> 00:38:59.260
  • WHEREVER YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE IN
  • 00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:01.060
  • YOUR LIVING ROOM OR IN YOUR
  • 00:39:01.060 --> 00:39:02.090
  • BEDROOM OR IF YOU'RE JUST
  • 00:39:02.090 --> 00:39:03.070
  • WATCHING SOMEHOW ONLINE, I WANNA
  • 00:39:03.070 --> 00:39:04.220
  • CHALLENGE YOU IN THIS MOMENT
  • 00:39:04.220 --> 00:39:06.130
  • JUST TO PAUSE AND JUST ALLOW
  • 00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:09.030
  • JESUS TO MEET YOU WHERE YOU ARE
  • 00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:11.090
  • AND JUST WHISPER A PRAYER THAT
  • 00:39:11.090 --> 00:39:12.000
  • INVITES HIM INTO YOUR LIFE
  • 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.040
  • BECAUSE, IF YOU WISH FOR A
  • 00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:16.080
  • PRAYER THAT SAYS, "JESUS, I GIVE
  • 00:39:16.080 --> 00:39:18.040
  • YOU MY LIFE," I GUARANTEE YOU,
  • 00:39:18.040 --> 00:39:19.050
  • GOD WILL ENVELOP YOU WITH HIS
  • 00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:20.020
  • LOVE.
  • 00:39:20.020 --> 00:39:23.010
  • HE WILL WRAP YOU UP IN HIS
  • 00:39:23.010 --> 00:39:24.060
  • PRESENCE.
  • 00:39:24.060 --> 00:39:25.210
  • YOU WILL BELONG TO HIM, AND THAT
  • 00:39:25.210 --> 00:39:27.020
  • EMPTINESS INSIDE OF YOU WILL BE
  • 00:39:27.020 --> 00:39:28.130
  • FILLED WITH HIS PRESENCE.
  • 00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:29.250
  • HE IS THE GOD WHO FILLS YOU WITH
  • 00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:31.090
  • LOVE, WHO FILLS YOU WITH LIFE,
  • 00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:32.270
  • AND ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE A LIFE OF
  • 00:39:33.020 --> 00:39:36.020
  • FREEDOM.
  • 00:39:36.120 --> 00:39:39.120
  • AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT
  • 00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:40.240
  • MISS THAT GIFT THAT GOD HAS
  • 00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:41.200
  • PROVIDED FOR YOU.
  • 00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:44.270
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:39:44.270 --> 00:39:47.030
  • THERE'S A NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:47.250
  • IF YOU WANNA JUST SIMPLY CALL
  • 00:39:47.250 --> 00:39:48.170
  • THAT NUMBER AND TALK WITH
  • 00:39:48.170 --> 00:39:49.270
  • SOMEBODY, DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:39:49.270 --> 00:39:52.000
  • LET'S GO BACK INSIDE THE BIG
  • 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:52.230
  • ARENA.
  • 00:39:52.290 --> 00:39:55.290
  • - ERWIN: SO THERE'S THIS MOMENT
  • 00:39:55.290 --> 00:39:56.210
  • IN 2 KINGS WHERE A WOMAN WAS
  • 00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:01.160
  • MARRIED TO A MAN WHO LIVED FOR
  • 00:40:01.160 --> 00:40:02.270
  • GOD, AND THEN HE DIED.
  • 00:40:03.250 --> 00:40:06.250
  • AND HE LEFT THEM BANKRUPT, AND
  • 00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:08.260
  • NOW HER SONS ARE GOING TO BE
  • 00:40:08.260 --> 00:40:10.190
  • SOLD AS SLAVES.
  • 00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:12.200
  • AND THEY GO TO THE PROPHET
  • 00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:16.010
  • ELISHA FOR HELP.
  • 00:40:16.010 --> 00:40:16.200
  • 2 KINGS CHAPTER 4: "THE WIFE OF
  • 00:40:19.250 --> 00:40:22.250
  • A MAN FROM THE COMPANY OF THE
  • 00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:23.250
  • PROPHETS CRIED OUT TO ELISHA,
  • 00:40:23.250 --> 00:40:24.160
  • 'YOUR SERVANT MY HUSBAND IS
  • 00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:26.220
  • AND YOU KNOW HE REVERED THE
  • 00:40:30.180 --> 00:40:31.280
  • LORD, AND NOW HIS CREDITOR
  • 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.020
  • IS COMING TO TAKE MY
  • 00:40:33.020 --> 00:40:33.240
  • TWO BOYS AS HIS SLAVES.'
  • 00:40:33.240 --> 00:40:36.150
  • ELISHA REPLIED TO HER,
  • 00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:37.020
  • 'HOW CAN I HELP YOU?
  • 00:40:37.020 --> 00:40:38.180
  • TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN
  • 00:40:38.180 --> 00:40:40.120
  • YOUR HOUSE?'
  • 00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:42.230
  • 'YOUR SERVANT HAS NOTHING THERE
  • 00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:44.210
  • AT ALL,' SHE SAID, 'EXCEPT A
  • 00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:45.210
  • SMALL JAR OF OLIVE OIL.'
  • 00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:46.280
  • ELISHA SAID,
  • 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.260
  • 'GO AROUND AND ASK ALL
  • 00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:49.070
  • YOUR NEIGHBORS FOR EMPTY JARS.
  • 00:40:49.070 --> 00:40:51.000
  • DON'T ASK FOR JUST A FEW.
  • 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.090
  • THEN GO INSIDE AND SHUT THE DOOR
  • 00:40:53.090 --> 00:40:55.020
  • BEHIND YOU AND YOUR SONS.
  • 00:40:55.020 --> 00:40:56.260
  • POUR OIL INTO THE JARS.
  • 00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:59.040
  • AS EACH IS FILLED, PUT IT TO ONE
  • 00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:00.150
  • SIDE.'
  • 00:41:00.150 --> 00:41:02.050
  • SHE LEFT HIM AND SHUT THE
  • 00:41:02.060 --> 00:41:05.060
  • DOOR BEHIND HER AND HER SONS,
  • 00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:06.170
  • AND THEY BROUGHT THE JARS TO HER
  • 00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:09.240
  • AND SHE KEPT POURING."
  • 00:41:09.240 --> 00:41:12.190
  • AND SHE KEPT POURING AND POURING
  • 00:41:12.190 --> 00:41:13.150
  • AND POURING AND POURING.
  • 00:41:13.150 --> 00:41:14.170
  • "WHEN ALL THE JARS WERE FULL,
  • 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:18.000
  • SHE SAID TO HER SON, BRING ME
  • 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.160
  • ANOTHER ONE.'
  • 00:41:19.160 --> 00:41:20.280
  • BUT HE REPLIED,
  • 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:21.270
  • 'THERE IS NOT A JAR LEFT.'
  • 00:41:21.270 --> 00:41:24.150
  • THEN THE OIL STOPPED FLOWING.
  • 00:41:25.220 --> 00:41:28.220
  • SHE WENT AND TOLD THE MAN OF
  • 00:41:28.220 --> 00:41:31.020
  • GOD, AND HE SAID, 'GO, SELL THE
  • 00:41:31.020 --> 00:41:33.250
  • OIL AND PAY YOUR DEBTS.
  • 00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:37.040
  • YOU AND YOUR SONS CAN LIVE ON
  • 00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:38.140
  • WHAT IS LEFT.'"
  • 00:41:38.210 --> 00:41:41.210
  • I THINK THIS MOMENT IS SO
  • 00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:44.140
  • CRITICAL FOR OUR OWN FAITH.
  • 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:48.000
  • HERE'S A WOMAN WHO'S AT THE END
  • 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:48.220
  • OF HERSELF, WHO DOESN'T KNOW
  • 00:41:48.220 --> 00:41:50.130
  • WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:51.200
  • BUT INSTEAD OF BECOMING
  • 00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:52.110
  • EMBITTERED TOWARD GOD, SHE RUNS
  • 00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:53.190
  • TO THE MAN OF GOD AND SAYS,
  • 00:41:53.190 --> 00:41:55.010
  • "THIS IS WHERE I'M AT.
  • 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.000
  • THIS IS WHERE MY LIFE IS.
  • 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.140
  • THIS IS WHAT I'VE COME TO."
  • 00:42:00.140 --> 00:42:02.240
  • AND I LOVE WHAT HE SAYS TO HER:
  • 00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:04.040
  • "HOW CAN I HELP YOU?"
  • 00:42:04.040 --> 00:42:04.220
  • SHE GOES, "I JUST EXPLAINED TO
  • 00:42:04.220 --> 00:42:06.070
  • YOU!
  • 00:42:06.070 --> 00:42:07.180
  • WE'RE BROKE!
  • 00:42:07.180 --> 00:42:09.220
  • OUR CREDITOR IS TAKING AWAY MY
  • 00:42:09.220 --> 00:42:10.130
  • BOYS!
  • 00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:11.200
  • THEY'RE GONNA BECOME SLAVES!"
  • 00:42:11.200 --> 00:42:13.110
  • WHY DOES ELISHA SAY, "HOW CAN I
  • 00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:14.240
  • HELP YOU?"
  • 00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:17.070
  • BECAUSE GOD IS ALWAYS GOING TO
  • 00:42:17.070 --> 00:42:19.050
  • ASK YOU, "WHAT DO YOU WANT?
  • 00:42:22.030 --> 00:42:25.030
  • HOW CAN I HELP YOU?"
  • 00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:26.250
  • AND THEN HE SAYS, "ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:42:26.250 --> 00:42:27.160
  • TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN
  • 00:42:27.160 --> 00:42:28.190
  • YOUR HOUSE?"
  • 00:42:28.190 --> 00:42:30.010
  • AND SHE SAYS, "I HAVE NOTHING AT
  • 00:42:30.010 --> 00:42:31.050
  • ALL," WHICH I THINK IS THE
  • 00:42:31.050 --> 00:42:32.230
  • PROBLEM FOR SO MANY OF US!
  • 00:42:32.230 --> 00:42:35.190
  • WE JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE
  • 00:42:35.190 --> 00:42:36.110
  • ENOUGH FOR GOD TO USE.
  • 00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:39.050
  • I LOVE THE FACT THAT HIS FIRST
  • 00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:40.220
  • QUESTION TO HER IS "WHAT DO YOU
  • 00:42:40.220 --> 00:42:41.290
  • HAVE?"
  • 00:42:41.290 --> 00:42:42.180
  • AND SHE SAYS, "NOTHING."
  • 00:42:42.180 --> 00:42:44.200
  • THAT'S WHAT-- WE THINK THAT.
  • 00:42:44.200 --> 00:42:46.130
  • YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
  • 00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:48.280
  • GOD WANTS THAT SOMETHING.
  • 00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.020
  • HE WANTS YOU TO TAKE THAT
  • 00:42:50.020 --> 00:42:52.020
  • SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE AND MAKE
  • 00:42:52.020 --> 00:42:53.190
  • IT EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.
  • 00:42:53.190 --> 00:42:56.050
  • SO YOU GIVE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
  • 00:42:56.050 --> 00:42:57.070
  • TO GOD SO THAT HE CAN GIVE YOU
  • 00:42:57.070 --> 00:42:58.010
  • EVERYTHING HE HAS.
  • 00:42:58.010 --> 00:42:59.040
  • THERE'S GONNA BE GREAT EXCHANGE
  • 00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:00.030
  • HERE.
  • 00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:02.120
  • SHE SAYS, "I HAVE NOTHING AT ALL
  • 00:43:02.120 --> 00:43:03.040
  • EXCEPT A SMALL JAR OF OLIVE
  • 00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:04.200
  • OIL."
  • 00:43:04.200 --> 00:43:05.130
  • HE SAYS, "ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:06.020
  • I WANT YOU TO GO TO ALL YOUR
  • 00:43:06.020 --> 00:43:07.050
  • NEIGHBORS, AND I WANT YOU TO ASK
  • 00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:08.080
  • THEM FOR ALL THEIR EMPTY JARS,"
  • 00:43:08.080 --> 00:43:09.090
  • WHICH IS NOT REALLY HELPFUL, BUT
  • 00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:10.010
  • SHE GOES TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
  • 00:43:10.010 --> 00:43:12.220
  • I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY SHE
  • 00:43:12.220 --> 00:43:13.130
  • GOES TO.
  • 00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:14.070
  • AND SHE STARTS ASKING FOR ALL
  • 00:43:14.070 --> 00:43:15.140
  • THE EMPTY JARS.
  • 00:43:15.140 --> 00:43:16.020
  • AND HE DOES GIVE HER ONE BIT OF
  • 00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:17.120
  • INSIGHT: "DON'T ASK FOR JUST A
  • 00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:18.150
  • FEW."
  • 00:43:18.150 --> 00:43:21.130
  • SEE, I LOVE THIS 'CAUSE
  • 00:43:21.130 --> 00:43:22.030
  • ELISHA KNEW GOD.
  • 00:43:22.030 --> 00:43:24.140
  • HE KNEW HOW GENEROUS GOD WAS.
  • 00:43:24.140 --> 00:43:26.290
  • HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT GOD WANTED
  • 00:43:26.290 --> 00:43:29.070
  • TO DO IN HER LIFE, AND HE SAID,
  • 00:43:29.070 --> 00:43:30.200
  • "GO ASK FOR EMPTY JARS, BUT
  • 00:43:30.200 --> 00:43:32.060
  • DON'T JUST ASK FOR A FEW.
  • 00:43:32.060 --> 00:43:33.170
  • GO GET AS MANY JARS AS YOU CAN."
  • 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.000
  • SEE, I THINK SO MANY OF US ARE
  • 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.270
  • CONVINCED THAT GOD CAN BARELY
  • 00:43:38.270 --> 00:43:40.040
  • FILL OUR ONE, SMALL JAR.
  • 00:43:40.040 --> 00:43:42.230
  • HE SAID, "GO GET ALL THE EMPTY
  • 00:43:42.230 --> 00:43:45.190
  • JARS YOU CAN.
  • 00:43:45.190 --> 00:43:47.210
  • PULL 'EM TOGETHER, AND THEN LOCK
  • 00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:49.210
  • YOURSELF IN," SO THAT NO ONE CAN
  • 00:43:49.210 --> 00:43:51.120
  • SAY ANYONE DID THIS, BUT GOD,
  • 00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:53.260
  • "AND TAKE THAT LITTLE BIT OF OIL
  • 00:43:53.260 --> 00:43:55.080
  • YOU HAVE AND START POURING IT
  • 00:43:55.080 --> 00:43:56.120
  • INTO ALL THOSE EMPTY JARS."
  • 00:43:56.120 --> 00:43:59.060
  • AND SHE POURED, AND SHE POURED,
  • 00:43:59.060 --> 00:43:59.280
  • AND SHE POURED,
  • 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.160
  • AND BY THAT TIME, SHE GOT IT:
  • 00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:03.190
  • GOD IS A GENEROUS GOD!
  • 00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:05.060
  • GOD DOES MORE THAN WE COULD EVER
  • 00:44:05.060 --> 00:44:06.070
  • ASK OR IMAGINE!
  • 00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:07.260
  • THIS IS THE KIND OF GOD THAT WE
  • 00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:08.180
  • SERVE!
  • 00:44:08.180 --> 00:44:10.210
  • AND SHE JUST KEPT POURING AND
  • 00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:11.190
  • POURING AND POURING, AND FINALLY
  • 00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:13.200
  • SHE SAYS TO HER SON, "BRING ME
  • 00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:14.210
  • ANOTHER JAR!"
  • 00:44:14.210 --> 00:44:17.080
  • I WOULDN'T WANNA BE HER SON WHEN
  • 00:44:17.080 --> 00:44:18.000
  • HE SAID, "THAT'S ALL WE GOT."
  • 00:44:20.100 --> 00:44:23.100
  • BECAUSE BY THAT TIME, SHE
  • 00:44:23.100 --> 00:44:24.170
  • FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THE CHARACTER
  • 00:44:24.170 --> 00:44:25.100
  • OF GOD.
  • 00:44:25.100 --> 00:44:27.050
  • SHE FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THE
  • 00:44:27.050 --> 00:44:27.240
  • GENEROSITY OF GOD.
  • 00:44:27.240 --> 00:44:29.220
  • SHE FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT GOD
  • 00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:30.200
  • WANTED TO PROSPER HER AND TO
  • 00:44:30.200 --> 00:44:31.150
  • BLESS HER AND TO POUR INTO HER
  • 00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:32.230
  • LIFE.
  • 00:44:32.230 --> 00:44:34.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:35.030 --> 00:44:38.030
  • SO MY WIFE, KIM, AND I,
  • 00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:40.010
  • WE SPENT 10 YEARS WORKING
  • 00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:41.140
  • WITH THE URBAN POOR.
  • 00:44:41.140 --> 00:44:42.240
  • WE WENT TO THE HIGHEST
  • 00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:43.170
  • CRIME-RATE/MURDER-RATE AREA OF
  • 00:44:43.170 --> 00:44:46.070
  • THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME IN
  • 00:44:46.070 --> 00:44:47.220
  • DALLAS, AND WE WENT TO A ZIP
  • 00:44:47.220 --> 00:44:49.170
  • CODE THAT WAS SO VIOLENT THAT
  • 00:44:49.170 --> 00:44:50.230
  • THE CITY OFFICERS WERE NOT
  • 00:44:50.230 --> 00:44:52.220
  • ALLOWED TO GO DOWN THERE.
  • 00:44:52.220 --> 00:44:55.050
  • I SPENT MY LIFE WITH DRUG
  • 00:44:55.050 --> 00:44:57.130
  • DEALERS AND DRUG ADDICTS AND
  • 00:44:57.130 --> 00:44:58.150
  • PROSTITUTES AND DRUG CARTELS.
  • 00:44:58.190 --> 00:45:01.210
  • AND THERE WAS NO FAME OR
  • 00:45:01.210 --> 00:45:02.150
  • FANFARE.
  • 00:45:02.170 --> 00:45:05.170
  • NO ONE SAW WHAT WE WERE DOING
  • 00:45:05.170 --> 00:45:06.280
  • EXCEPT GOD.
  • 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.010
  • AND WE WERE GONNA BUY SOME LAND
  • 00:45:09.010 --> 00:45:10.130
  • AND TRY TO PUT A LITTLE CHURCH
  • 00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:12.090
  • BUILDING THERE.
  • 00:45:12.100 --> 00:45:15.100
  • IT WOULD BE THE FIRST CHURCH
  • 00:45:15.100 --> 00:45:17.230
  • THAT WAS PUT INTO THE CITY IN
  • 00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:19.070
  • THE UNITED STATES AFTER DECADES
  • 00:45:19.070 --> 00:45:20.230
  • OF WHITE FLIGHT, PEOPLE LEAVING
  • 00:45:20.230 --> 00:45:23.160
  • THE CENTER OF THE CITY.
  • 00:45:23.160 --> 00:45:25.160
  • AND I SAW THIS PERFECT PIECE OF
  • 00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:28.210
  • LAND.
  • 00:45:28.210 --> 00:45:29.290
  • THERE WAS NO BUILDING ON IT.
  • 00:45:29.290 --> 00:45:31.220
  • I THOUGHT, "GOD, JUST SAVE THIS
  • 00:45:31.220 --> 00:45:32.140
  • LAND FOR US."
  • 00:45:32.140 --> 00:45:33.030
  • IT WAS PERFECT.
  • 00:45:33.030 --> 00:45:34.160
  • AS I STARTED WALKING ON THIS
  • 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:35.160
  • LAND AND I WOULD PRAY THE WORDS
  • 00:45:35.160 --> 00:45:37.040
  • IN JOSHUA THAT "EVERYWHERE THE
  • 00:45:37.040 --> 00:45:38.210
  • SOLE OF YOUR FOOT TOUCHES,
  • 00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:40.140
  • THAT'S YOURS."
  • 00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:41.110
  • SO I WOULD WALK ON THAT
  • 00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:41.290
  • PROPERTY, AND PEOPLE
  • 00:45:41.290 --> 00:45:43.130
  • THOUGHT I WAS OUT OF MY MIND.
  • 00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:44.040
  • I WOULD JUST WALK RIGHT ON THAT
  • 00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:45.110
  • PROPERTY AND SAY, "THIS IS MINE.
  • 00:45:45.110 --> 00:45:46.060
  • THIS IS MINE.
  • 00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:48.080
  • WE'RE CLAIMING THIS.
  • 00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:49.040
  • GOD, YOU'RE GIVING THIS TO US."
  • 00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:49.260
  • I REMEMBER, ONE TIME, THIS MAN
  • 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:50.210
  • CAME UP TO ME.
  • 00:45:50.210 --> 00:45:51.120
  • HE WAS HUGE, AND HE SAID,
  • 00:45:51.120 --> 00:45:52.120
  • "WHAT'RE YOU DOING?"
  • 00:45:52.120 --> 00:45:54.100
  • I SAID, "I'M WALKING ON THIS
  • 00:45:54.100 --> 00:45:55.000
  • PROPERTY, AND I'M ASKING GOD TO
  • 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:55.230
  • GIVE IT TO US."
  • 00:45:55.230 --> 00:45:57.080
  • HE GOES, "WELL, IF YOU'LL
  • 00:45:57.080 --> 00:45:59.040
  • PRAY FOR DIRT, WOULD YOU PRAY
  • 00:45:59.040 --> 00:45:59.250
  • FOR ME?"
  • 00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:00.120
  • AND SO I PRAYED FOR HIM, AND IT
  • 00:46:00.120 --> 00:46:01.120
  • BECAME THIS PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
  • 00:46:01.120 --> 00:46:03.150
  • WOULD MEET ME.
  • 00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:04.220
  • SO I WENT TO AN ASSOCIATION OF
  • 00:46:04.220 --> 00:46:06.010
  • CHURCHES THAT WE WERE CONNECTED
  • 00:46:06.010 --> 00:46:07.150
  • TO, AND I CONVINCED THEM TO BUY
  • 00:46:07.150 --> 00:46:08.200
  • THIS PROPERTY FOR US.
  • 00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:09.170
  • IT WASN'T THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT
  • 00:46:09.170 --> 00:46:11.100
  • AT THE TIME, IT SEEMED SO HUGE.
  • 00:46:11.100 --> 00:46:13.040
  • AND I CONVINCED THEM BECAUSE I
  • 00:46:13.040 --> 00:46:15.030
  • SAID, "LOOK IT.
  • 00:46:15.030 --> 00:46:15.260
  • IF WE DON'T SUCCEED, IT'S 'CAUSE
  • 00:46:15.260 --> 00:46:16.180
  • YOU DON'T THINK OUR CHURCH IS
  • 00:46:16.180 --> 00:46:17.140
  • GONNA MAKE IT, RIGHT?"
  • 00:46:17.140 --> 00:46:19.260
  • HE GOES, "NO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA
  • 00:46:19.260 --> 00:46:20.230
  • MAKE IT."
  • 00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:21.070
  • I SAID, "THAT'S OKAY.
  • 00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:21.240
  • IF WE DON'T MAKE IT, YOU CAN
  • 00:46:21.240 --> 00:46:23.080
  • SELL THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SO
  • 00:46:23.080 --> 00:46:23.290
  • MUCH MORE MONEY ON IT 'CAUSE,
  • 00:46:23.290 --> 00:46:24.200
  • AFTER ALL, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
  • 00:46:24.200 --> 00:46:25.120
  • IN REAL ESTATE, RIGHT?"
  • 00:46:25.120 --> 00:46:27.100
  • AND...THAT-- THAT'S A JOKE.
  • 00:46:27.100 --> 00:46:29.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:46:29.130 --> 00:46:32.020
  • SO HE BOUGHT THE
  • 00:46:32.020 --> 00:46:33.220
  • PROPERTY FOR US, AND THEN, WHEN
  • 00:46:33.220 --> 00:46:34.140
  • THEY DID ALL THE TESTING, THEY
  • 00:46:34.140 --> 00:46:35.050
  • DID TWO CORE SAMPLES THAT WENT
  • 00:46:35.050 --> 00:46:36.020
  • SOMETHING LIKE 25 FEET DEEP, AND
  • 00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:37.080
  • THEY REALIZED THAT I HAD LED
  • 00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:39.040
  • THEM TO BUY A LANDFILL.
  • 00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:42.200
  • THEY WENT 25 FEET DEEP AND NEVER
  • 00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:43.150
  • FOUND SOIL.
  • 00:46:44.170 --> 00:46:47.170
  • NOW, I WAS IN MY LATE 20S, AND I
  • 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:48.260
  • WAS SO NEW TO FAITH, AND I WAS
  • 00:46:48.260 --> 00:46:51.010
  • SO CONFUSED WHY GOD WOULD DO
  • 00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:52.040
  • THIS, AND I FELT SO INADEQUATE.
  • 00:46:52.200 --> 00:46:55.200
  • IN FACT, I WALKED TO THIS MAN'S
  • 00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:56.140
  • OFFICE.
  • 00:46:56.140 --> 00:46:58.010
  • I NEVER HEARD, LIKE, A BELIEVER
  • 00:46:58.010 --> 00:47:00.050
  • USE ANY, LIKE, PROFANE LANGUAGE
  • 00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:02.080
  • BEFORE, BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST
  • 00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:04.000
  • TIME.
  • 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:04.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:04.190 --> 00:47:06.230
  • AND HE WENT ON TO TELL ME,
  • 00:47:06.230 --> 00:47:07.220
  • "YOU KNOW THAT PIECE OF,
  • 00:47:07.220 --> 00:47:08.120
  • YOU KNOW, GARBAGE YOU TALKED
  • 00:47:08.120 --> 00:47:09.220
  • US INTO BUYING?"
  • 00:47:09.220 --> 00:47:11.290
  • AND HE GOES, "WELL, WE'LL NEVER
  • 00:47:11.290 --> 00:47:14.150
  • WORK WITH YOU AGAIN."
  • 00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:16.160
  • I LED THEM TO SPEND THEIR
  • 00:47:16.180 --> 00:47:19.180
  • MONEY TO BUY A LANDFILL,
  • 00:47:19.180 --> 00:47:20.060
  • AND I FELT SO ASHAMED AND SO
  • 00:47:20.060 --> 00:47:22.240
  • INADEQUATE, AND I THOUGHT,
  • 00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:25.050
  • "THIS IS MY LIFE, MY STORY."
  • 00:47:25.050 --> 00:47:27.260
  • AND OTHER PEOPLE WERE
  • 00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:29.070
  • BUILDING THESE GREAT CHURCHES
  • 00:47:29.070 --> 00:47:30.290
  • AND DOING THESE GREAT WORKS, AND
  • 00:47:31.090 --> 00:47:34.090
  • I'M THE PASTOR OF A LANDFILL.
  • 00:47:34.090 --> 00:47:35.000
  • I'M THE PASTOR OF THE DUMP.
  • 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:37.140 --> 00:47:39.110
  • AND IT WAS SO FRUSTRATING TO ME.
  • 00:47:39.110 --> 00:47:40.200
  • AND SO I WENT TO OUR SMALL
  • 00:47:40.200 --> 00:47:41.220
  • LITTLE CONGREGATION.
  • 00:47:41.220 --> 00:47:42.240
  • I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
  • 00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:44.260
  • I SAID, "WE BOUGHT A LANDFILL.
  • 00:47:44.260 --> 00:47:45.270
  • WE CAN'T SELL IT 'CAUSE NOW WE
  • 00:47:45.270 --> 00:47:47.030
  • CAN'T LIE TO ANYONE.
  • 00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:48.240
  • THE PEOPLE WHO SOLD TO US LIED
  • 00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:49.220
  • TO US, AND WE CAN'T LIE TO
  • 00:47:49.220 --> 00:47:52.000
  • ANYONE, SO WE'RE STUCK WITH A
  • 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.230
  • LANDFILL."
  • 00:47:52.230 --> 00:47:54.130
  • AND THIS HANDFUL OF PEOPLE--
  • 00:47:54.130 --> 00:47:55.260
  • AND I JUST SAID, "ALL WE CAN DO
  • 00:47:55.260 --> 00:47:56.180
  • IS PRAY THAT GOD WOULD PERFORM
  • 00:47:56.180 --> 00:47:57.290
  • A MIRACLE."
  • 00:47:57.290 --> 00:48:00.040
  • YOU SEE, I KNOW WHAT WAS GOING
  • 00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:01.140
  • ON WITH THESE TWO BLIND MEN.
  • 00:48:01.140 --> 00:48:03.150
  • THEY WERE DESPERATE, AND SO THEY
  • 00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:04.130
  • PRAYED A BIG PRAYER.
  • 00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:06.130
  • SEE, I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH
  • 00:48:06.130 --> 00:48:07.040
  • THIS WIDOW.
  • 00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:08.080
  • SHE WAS DESPERATE, AND SO SHE
  • 00:48:08.080 --> 00:48:09.020
  • PRAYED A BIG PRAYER.
  • 00:48:09.020 --> 00:48:11.270
  • AND I WONDERED, "IF WE GET ANGRY
  • 00:48:11.270 --> 00:48:13.210
  • WITH GOD WHEN HE PUTS US INTO
  • 00:48:13.210 --> 00:48:14.120
  • DESPERATE CIRCUMSTANCES-- AND WE
  • 00:48:14.120 --> 00:48:16.120
  • DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S ONLY IN
  • 00:48:16.120 --> 00:48:18.160
  • OUR DESPERATION THAT WE START
  • 00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:20.080
  • BELIEVING GOD TO BE WHO HE
  • 00:48:20.080 --> 00:48:22.000
  • ACTUALLY IS!
  • 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.210
  • SO WE PRAYED AND WE
  • 00:48:25.210 --> 00:48:26.260
  • PRAYED AND WE PRAYED, AND PEOPLE
  • 00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:28.110
  • WOULD COME FROM OTHER STATES AND
  • 00:48:28.110 --> 00:48:29.030
  • SAY, "HEY, WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO
  • 00:48:29.030 --> 00:48:30.110
  • WITH THAT LANDFILL?"
  • 00:48:30.110 --> 00:48:31.110
  • WE WERE FAMOUS AS THE CHURCH
  • 00:48:31.110 --> 00:48:32.160
  • WITH A LANDFILL.
  • 00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:33.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:48:33.100 --> 00:48:35.140
  • AND THEN ONE DAY,
  • 00:48:35.140 --> 00:48:36.110
  • ONE OF THE LADIES IN OUR
  • 00:48:36.110 --> 00:48:37.290
  • CHURCH-- I SAID, "HEY, GUYS,
  • 00:48:37.290 --> 00:48:39.160
  • LET'S PRAY FOR THE LANDFILL."
  • 00:48:39.160 --> 00:48:42.070
  • AND WE HAD THESE GUESTS FROM THE
  • 00:48:42.070 --> 00:48:43.110
  • OUTSIDE, AND ONE OF THEM ASKED
  • 00:48:43.110 --> 00:48:44.080
  • THAT QUESTION AGAIN: "WHAT'RE
  • 00:48:44.080 --> 00:48:45.140
  • YOU GUYS GONNA DO WITH THE
  • 00:48:45.140 --> 00:48:46.070
  • LANDFILL?"
  • 00:48:46.070 --> 00:48:47.260
  • I JUST COULDN'T TAKE THAT
  • 00:48:47.260 --> 00:48:48.150
  • QUESTION ANYMORE.
  • 00:48:48.150 --> 00:48:49.140
  • I COULD FEEL THE CONDESCENSION.
  • 00:48:49.140 --> 00:48:50.240
  • I COULD FEEL PEOPLE LAUGHING AT
  • 00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:51.180
  • ME.
  • 00:48:52.090 --> 00:48:55.090
  • AND THIS LITTLE LADY SAID, "OH,
  • 00:48:55.090 --> 00:48:56.010
  • WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF IT.
  • 00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:57.100
  • WE'VE ASKED GOD TO TURN IT INTO
  • 00:48:57.100 --> 00:48:58.160
  • SOIL."
  • 00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:01.140
  • AND WHEN SHE SAID THAT, I
  • 00:49:01.140 --> 00:49:02.270
  • THOUGHT, "YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT!"
  • 00:49:02.270 --> 00:49:05.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:05.180 --> 00:49:06.170
  • "WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT!
  • 00:49:06.170 --> 00:49:08.070
  • OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:49:08.070 --> 00:49:08.270
  • PRAYING!"
  • 00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:10.000
  • SO I WENT BACK TO THE
  • 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:10.230
  • ASSOCIATION.
  • 00:49:10.230 --> 00:49:11.210
  • I SAID, "I NEED YOU TO DO A
  • 00:49:11.210 --> 00:49:13.020
  • THIRD CORE SAMPLE."
  • 00:49:13.020 --> 00:49:14.120
  • HE GOES, "WHY?"
  • 00:49:14.120 --> 00:49:15.150
  • I SAID, "I JUST NEED YOU TO DO A
  • 00:49:15.150 --> 00:49:16.140
  • THIRD CORE SAMPLE.
  • 00:49:16.140 --> 00:49:17.040
  • JUST TRUST ME."
  • 00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:18.030
  • AND HE GOES, "SON--"
  • 00:49:18.030 --> 00:49:19.190
  • I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME
  • 00:49:19.190 --> 00:49:20.100
  • "SON."
  • 00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:20.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:20.290 --> 00:49:23.040
  • "SON, WE'VE DONE TWO CORE
  • 00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:24.050
  • SAMPLES.
  • 00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:24.260
  • DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE
  • 00:49:24.260 --> 00:49:25.230
  • LOST BECAUSE OF YOU?"
  • 00:49:25.230 --> 00:49:26.280
  • I SAID, "YOU'VE LOST SO MUCH
  • 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.020
  • MONEY.
  • 00:49:28.020 --> 00:49:29.070
  • COULDN'T YOU JUST WASTE ANOTHER
  • 00:49:29.070 --> 00:49:30.130
  • 3.000 ON ONE MORE CORE SAMPLE?"
  • 00:49:30.130 --> 00:49:33.090
  • I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT HE DID.
  • 00:49:33.090 --> 00:49:35.070
  • AND I'M TELLING YOU, I'M
  • 00:49:35.070 --> 00:49:36.170
  • STANDING BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT,
  • 00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:38.060
  • WHEN THEY TOOK THAT THIRD CORE
  • 00:49:38.060 --> 00:49:39.260
  • SAMPLE, THAT LAND THAT WAS A
  • 00:49:39.260 --> 00:49:41.220
  • LANDFILL CAME OUT SOIL!
  • 00:49:41.240 --> 00:49:44.240
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:49:50.270 --> 00:49:53.270
  • I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED
  • 00:49:53.270 --> 00:49:54.160
  • BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY.
  • 00:49:54.160 --> 00:49:56.150
  • AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE PUT THAT
  • 00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:58.150
  • LITTLE BUILDING RIGHT IN THE
  • 00:49:58.150 --> 00:49:59.140
  • MIDDLE OF SOUTH DALLAS IN THE
  • 00:49:59.140 --> 00:50:00.090
  • HIGHEST CRIME-RATE, HIGHEST
  • 00:50:00.090 --> 00:50:01.060
  • MURDER-RATE AREA OF THE ENTIRE
  • 00:50:01.060 --> 00:50:03.160
  • UNITED STATES, AND WE PUT THAT
  • 00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:04.170
  • CROSS ON TOP OF THAT LITTLE
  • 00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:06.010
  • BUILDING, IT WAS OUR DECLARATION
  • 00:50:06.010 --> 00:50:08.200
  • THAT, IF WE GIVE GOD OUR EMPTY
  • 00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:14.050
  • JARS WITH JUST THE SMALLEST
  • 00:50:14.050 --> 00:50:15.090
  • AMOUNT OF OIL, AND THEN WE ASK
  • 00:50:15.090 --> 00:50:16.080
  • HIM FOR GREAT THINGS, HE WILL
  • 00:50:16.080 --> 00:50:18.040
  • SHOW UP AND BE THE GREAT GOD!
  • 00:50:18.040 --> 00:50:20.000
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:50:20.270 --> 00:50:23.270
  • IT'S TIME!
  • 00:50:23.270 --> 00:50:26.000
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:50:27.270 --> 00:50:30.270
  • BE CAREFUL NOT TO
  • 00:50:30.270 --> 00:50:31.280
  • ASK TOO SMALL A THING.
  • 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.140
  • IT WAS VALENTINE'S DAY.
  • 00:50:35.040 --> 00:50:38.040
  • I KNOW I SHOULD'VE WOKEN UP ON
  • 00:50:38.040 --> 00:50:40.280
  • VALENTINE'S DAY, THINKING ABOUT
  • 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:41.200
  • MY WIFE, AND I DID LATER.
  • 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:44.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:46.270
  • BUT I WOKE UP THAT MORNING
  • 00:50:46.270 --> 00:50:47.290
  • BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET TO
  • 00:50:47.290 --> 00:50:50.060
  • MOSAIC BECAUSE THE ROADS WERE
  • 00:50:50.060 --> 00:50:51.120
  • CLOSED, AND SO WE COULDN'T
  • 00:50:51.120 --> 00:50:52.060
  • GATHER THAT MORNING.
  • 00:50:56.110 --> 00:50:59.110
  • AND I HEARD-- IT WAS AS IF THE
  • 00:50:59.110 --> 00:51:01.010
  • VOICE OF GOD JUST SAY TO ME,
  • 00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:04.230
  • "ERWIN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
  • 00:51:04.230 --> 00:51:05.230
  • WANT, OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO
  • 00:51:05.230 --> 00:51:06.250
  • WANDER AIMLESSLY ALL YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:51:06.290 --> 00:51:09.290
  • WONDERING WHY I NEVER WORKED IN
  • 00:51:10.220 --> 00:51:13.220
  • YOUR LIFE THE WAY I COULD'VE
  • 00:51:13.220 --> 00:51:14.150
  • WORKED IN YOUR LIFE?"
  • 00:51:14.150 --> 00:51:16.240
  • SEE, I THINK THE MOST PAINFUL
  • 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:17.150
  • QUESTION YOU ASK AN 8-YEAR-OLD
  • 00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:19.150
  • IS "WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE WHEN
  • 00:51:19.150 --> 00:51:20.070
  • YOU GROW UP?"
  • 00:51:20.070 --> 00:51:21.230
  • HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
  • 00:51:21.230 --> 00:51:22.140
  • WE DON'T EVEN KNOW.
  • 00:51:22.220 --> 00:51:25.220
  • BUT IF YOU WANT GOD TO DO GREAT
  • 00:51:25.220 --> 00:51:27.250
  • THINGS IN YOUR LIFE, YOU BETTER
  • 00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:29.010
  • SIT DOWN, AND YOU BETTER LET GOD
  • 00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:30.210
  • CHANGE YOUR HEART AND PUT HIS
  • 00:51:30.210 --> 00:51:32.260
  • DESIRES INTO YOUR FIRE AND KNOW
  • 00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:34.130
  • WHAT YOU WANT.
  • 00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:39.110
  • AND I WOKE UP THAT MORNING, AND
  • 00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:40.030
  • I SAID, "GOD, I WANT US TO HAVE
  • 00:51:40.030 --> 00:51:42.270
  • A CONVERSATION WITH THE WORLD.
  • 00:51:42.270 --> 00:51:44.200
  • THAT'S WHAT I WANT.
  • 00:51:44.200 --> 00:51:46.210
  • I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A
  • 00:51:46.210 --> 00:51:47.110
  • CONVERSATION WITH THE WORLD
  • 00:51:47.110 --> 00:51:48.260
  • ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL YOUR SON,
  • 00:51:48.260 --> 00:51:49.220
  • JESUS, IS."
  • 00:51:49.220 --> 00:51:51.020
  • AND I SAID, "AND THERE'S A
  • 00:51:51.020 --> 00:51:52.250
  • PRACTICAL 'ASK,' HERE, GOD.
  • 00:51:52.250 --> 00:51:55.200
  • WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY
  • 00:51:55.200 --> 00:51:57.170
  • 4K EQUIPMENT FROM SONY, AND IT'S
  • 00:51:57.170 --> 00:52:00.050
  • WORTH MAYBE ABOUT $5 MILLION,
  • 00:52:00.050 --> 00:52:01.250
  • AND THEY'RE OFFERING IT TO US
  • 00:52:01.250 --> 00:52:03.140
  • FOR 1.6 MILLION, AND, GOD,
  • 00:52:03.140 --> 00:52:04.140
  • THAT'S A GREAT REDUCTION, EXCEPT
  • 00:52:04.140 --> 00:52:05.280
  • THAT'S 1.6 MILLION MORE THAN WE
  • 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.180
  • HAVE.
  • 00:52:07.180 --> 00:52:08.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:09.250
  • SO THAT'S A HUGE
  • 00:52:09.250 --> 00:52:10.270
  • DILEMMA, GOD."
  • 00:52:10.270 --> 00:52:12.050
  • AND, GOD, IN THAT MOMENT, PUT
  • 00:52:12.050 --> 00:52:14.050
  • SOMEONE'S NAME IN MY MIND,
  • 00:52:14.050 --> 00:52:15.260
  • SOMEONE I'D NEVER MET, I'D
  • 00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:17.140
  • NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH,
  • 00:52:17.140 --> 00:52:18.230
  • DIDN'T EVEN ATTEND OUR
  • 00:52:18.230 --> 00:52:19.200
  • CONGREGATION.
  • 00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:21.070
  • I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE HIS E-MAIL
  • 00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:21.290
  • ADDRESS.
  • 00:52:21.290 --> 00:52:22.150
  • I HAD TO TRACE IT THROUGH
  • 00:52:22.150 --> 00:52:24.000
  • SOMEONE ELSE'S E-MAIL ADDRESS.
  • 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.170
  • AND I FOUND IT, AND THEN I SENT
  • 00:52:25.170 --> 00:52:26.160
  • HIM A NOTE.
  • 00:52:26.160 --> 00:52:27.190
  • AND I JUST SAID, "HEY, I'M
  • 00:52:27.190 --> 00:52:28.080
  • PRAYING FOR YOU TODAY.
  • 00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:29.140
  • ATTACHED TO MY E-MAIL IS A
  • 00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:31.100
  • PROPOSAL YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED
  • 00:52:31.100 --> 00:52:32.040
  • IN."
  • 00:52:32.040 --> 00:52:33.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:33.050 --> 00:52:35.100
  • 'CAUSE I COULDN'T EVEN ASK
  • 00:52:35.100 --> 00:52:36.020
  • 'CAUSE I WAS SO AFRAID TO ASK.
  • 00:52:36.020 --> 00:52:38.220
  • WITHIN 5 MINUTES, I GOT AN
  • 00:52:39.130 --> 00:52:42.130
  • E-MAIL BACK, SAYING, "WE'RE IN
  • 00:52:42.130 --> 00:52:43.050
  • THE HOSPITAL.
  • 00:52:43.050 --> 00:52:43.260
  • OUR LITTLE BOY HAS MENINGITIS."
  • 00:52:43.260 --> 00:52:45.060
  • I THOUGHT, "OH, I'M SUCH A BAD
  • 00:52:45.060 --> 00:52:46.280
  • HUMAN BEING...JUST SENT AN
  • 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.200
  • E-MAIL WHILE THEIR SON IS IN THE
  • 00:52:48.200 --> 00:52:49.270
  • HOSPITAL."
  • 00:52:49.270 --> 00:52:50.260
  • HE SAID, "WOULD YOU
  • 00:52:50.260 --> 00:52:51.150
  • PRAY FOR OUR LITTLE BOY?"
  • 00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:52.250
  • OOH, BY THE WAY, HE GOT HEALED.
  • 00:52:53.080 --> 00:52:56.080
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:52:56.200 --> 00:52:59.200
  • AND THEN HE ATTACHES AN E-MAIL:
  • 00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:01.180
  • "AND WE WOULD LOVE TO GIVE
  • 00:53:01.180 --> 00:53:03.100
  • THE $1.6 MILLION YOU NEED
  • 00:53:03.100 --> 00:53:05.030
  • FOR THIS PROJECT."
  • 00:53:05.030 --> 00:53:07.040
  • AND I THOUGHT, "KIM! KIM!"
  • 00:53:07.090 --> 00:53:10.090
  • I WAS CALLING KIM.
  • 00:53:10.090 --> 00:53:11.020
  • "YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!"
  • 00:53:11.020 --> 00:53:12.270
  • AND SO WE BOUGHT THIS EQUIPMENT
  • 00:53:12.270 --> 00:53:14.150
  • FOR $1.6 MILLION, AND I DIDN'T
  • 00:53:14.150 --> 00:53:16.290
  • REALIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH
  • 00:53:16.290 --> 00:53:17.200
  • MONEY 'CAUSE THERE'S ALL THESE
  • 00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:18.280
  • OTHER THINGS NO ONE TELLS YOU
  • 00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:19.190
  • ABOUT.
  • 00:53:20.200 --> 00:53:23.200
  • AND SO I GOT UP ONE DAY, AND
  • 00:53:23.200 --> 00:53:24.250
  • I SAID, "YOU GOTTA KNOW WHAT
  • 00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:25.150
  • YOU WANT BECAUSE, IF YOU ASK
  • 00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:26.050
  • FOR TOO LITTLE, IT'S ON YOU."
  • 00:53:27.070 --> 00:53:30.070
  • AND I JUST WAS HONEST.
  • 00:53:30.070 --> 00:53:31.090
  • I SAID, "I THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT I
  • 00:53:31.090 --> 00:53:32.010
  • WANTED, BUT MY DREAMS WERE TOO
  • 00:53:32.010 --> 00:53:32.220
  • SMALL.
  • 00:53:32.220 --> 00:53:33.080
  • MY ASK WAS TOO SMALL.
  • 00:53:33.080 --> 00:53:33.250
  • MY VISION WAS TOO SMALL.
  • 00:53:33.250 --> 00:53:35.180
  • AND NOW I'M HERE, AND I HAVE
  • 00:53:35.180 --> 00:53:37.040
  • $1.6 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT,
  • 00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:38.170
  • BUT WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:53:38.170 --> 00:53:39.290
  • SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE I DIDN'T
  • 00:53:39.290 --> 00:53:40.240
  • DREAM BIG ENOUGH!"
  • 00:53:41.160 --> 00:53:44.160
  • AND THE GUY WAS LISTENING TO MY
  • 00:53:44.160 --> 00:53:45.080
  • TALK.
  • 00:53:45.080 --> 00:53:48.040
  • AND WHEN I WALKED OFF THE
  • 00:53:48.040 --> 00:53:48.230
  • "WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLOSE
  • 00:53:52.150 --> 00:53:54.070
  • THE GAP OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR
  • 00:53:54.070 --> 00:53:57.030
  • AND, LET ME TELL YOU,
  • 00:54:01.080 --> 00:54:01.250
  • IF THERE IS A PERSON OUT
  • 00:54:01.250 --> 00:54:02.250
  • THERE WHO LISTENS AND SAYS,
  • 00:54:02.250 --> 00:54:04.240
  • "I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CLOSE THAT
  • 00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:06.020
  • GAP," DON'T YOU THINK GOD IS
  • 00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:08.070
  • LISTENING TO YOU?
  • 00:54:08.070 --> 00:54:09.220
  • DON'T YOU THINK HE'S HERE RIGHT
  • 00:54:09.220 --> 00:54:11.220
  • NOW, SAYING, "I'M READY TO CLOSE
  • 00:54:11.220 --> 00:54:13.090
  • THE GAP BETWEEN WHERE YOU ARE
  • 00:54:13.260 --> 00:54:16.260
  • AND WHERE ONLY I CAN TAKE YOU.
  • 00:54:17.020 --> 00:54:20.020
  • I'M READY TO GIVE YOU A DREAM SO
  • 00:54:20.020 --> 00:54:22.180
  • BIG THAT YOU COULD NEVER FULFILL
  • 00:54:22.180 --> 00:54:23.220
  • IT EXCEPT BY MY POWER!"
  • 00:54:25.010 --> 00:54:28.010
  • BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE
  • 00:54:28.010 --> 00:54:29.180
  • YOU START, KNOW WHERE YOU BEGIN,
  • 00:54:29.180 --> 00:54:31.150
  • YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT!
  • 00:54:32.210 --> 00:54:35.210
  • I STAND UPON THE SOLID ROCK F
  • 00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:03.130
  • FAITH IN CHRIST
  • 00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:09.120
  • THIS STEADFAST HOPE SHALL NOT
  • 00:55:09.120 --> 00:55:10.260
  • BREAK APART WITHIN THE TRIAL
  • 00:55:12.030 --> 00:55:15.030
  • I AM ASSURED HIS PROMISES WIL
  • 00:55:15.140 --> 00:55:18.140
  • NEVER FAIL
  • 00:55:21.100 --> 00:55:24.100
  • AS LONG AS LIFE REMAINS, HE S
  • 00:55:24.100 --> 00:55:26.040
  • FAITHFUL
  • 00:55:28.200 --> 00:55:31.200
  • GOD IS PATIENT
  • 00:55:31.200 --> 00:55:32.080
  • GOD IS KIND
  • 00:55:32.190 --> 00:55:35.190
  • HE DOES NOT ENVY
  • 00:55:37.240 --> 00:55:40.240
  • HE DOES NOT BOAST
  • 00:55:40.240 --> 00:55:41.170
  • HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN MY
  • 00:55:41.210 --> 00:55:44.210
  • OWN
  • 00:55:44.210 --> 00:55:46.080
  • HIS THOUGHTS CONSUME THE GRET
  • 00:55:46.080 --> 00:55:48.000
  • UNKNOWN
  • 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.150
  • OF THIS ALONE I AM SURE, MY
  • 00:55:51.120 --> 00:55:54.120
  • I DRAW MY BREATH UNDER HIS
  • 00:56:11.050 --> 00:56:14.050
  • CREATED WINDSWEPT SKY
  • 00:56:16.100 --> 00:56:19.100
  • I KNOW MY HOPE SHALL LAST,
  • 00:56:19.220 --> 00:56:22.220
  • LONG AFTER MY FLESH RETIRES
  • 00:56:23.140 --> 00:56:26.140
  • FROM DUSK UNTIL THE DAWN,
  • 00:56:27.020 --> 00:56:30.020
  • HE CALLS HIS CHILDREN HOME
  • 00:56:30.020 --> 00:56:32.060
  • HIS RIGHTEOUS LOVE OUTLASTS
  • 00:56:32.060 --> 00:56:34.210
  • GENERATIONS
  • 00:56:36.230 --> 00:56:39.230
  • GOD IS PATIENT
  • 00:56:39.230 --> 00:56:42.080
  • GOD IS KIND
  • 00:56:42.170 --> 00:56:45.170
  • HE DOES NOT ENVY
  • 00:56:46.200 --> 00:56:49.200
  • HE DOES NOT BOAST
  • 00:56:49.220 --> 00:56:52.220
  • HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN MY
  • 00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:56.040
  • OWN
  • 00:56:56.040 --> 00:56:57.150
  • HIS THOUGHTS CONSUME THE GRET
  • 00:56:57.150 --> 00:56:58.140
  • UNKNOWN
  • 00:56:59.100 --> 00:57:02.120
  • OF THIS ALONE I AM SURE,
  • 00:57:02.120 --> 00:57:04.230
  • HE IS ALMIGHTY GOD, ELOHIM,
  • 00:57:21.030 --> 00:57:23.090
  • MAKER OF THE EARTH
  • 00:57:24.150 --> 00:57:27.150
  • HE IS THE LORD OF HOSTS,
  • 00:57:27.150 --> 00:57:29.270
  • HEAVEN'S KING,
  • 00:57:29.270 --> 00:57:32.110
  • GOD OF ENDLESS WORTH
  • 00:57:32.110 --> 00:57:34.220
  • HIS KINGDOM STANDS ABOVE EVEY
  • 00:57:34.220 --> 00:57:37.080
  • POWER,
  • 00:57:37.080 --> 00:57:39.000
  • EVERY LIVING SOUL
  • 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.250
  • HIS LOVE IS LIKE THE SUN,
  • 00:57:41.250 --> 00:57:44.130
  • EVER TRUE,
  • 00:57:44.130 --> 00:57:46.170
  • SHINING OVER ALL
  • 00:57:46.170 --> 00:57:48.270
  • HE IS ALMIGHTY GOD, ELOHIM,
  • 00:57:49.210 --> 00:57:52.210
  • MAKER OF THE EARTH
  • 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:55.280
  • HE IS THE LORD OF HOSTS,
  • 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.210
  • HEAVEN'S KING,
  • 00:57:58.210 --> 00:58:00.280
  • GOD OF ENDLESS WORTH
  • 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.040
  • HIS KINGDOM STANDS ABOVE EVEY
  • 00:58:03.260 --> 00:58:06.260
  • POWER,
  • 00:58:06.260 --> 00:58:07.220
  • EVERY LIVING SOUL
  • 00:58:07.220 --> 00:58:10.100
  • HIS LOVE IS LIKE THE SUN,
  • 00:58:10.100 --> 00:58:13.050
  • EVER TRUE,
  • 00:58:13.050 --> 00:58:14.280
  • SHINING OVER ALL
  • 00:58:21.140 --> 00:58:24.140
  • OOH, OOH, OOH, OOH
  • 00:58:26.250 --> 00:58:29.250
  • OOH, OOH, OOH, OOH
  • 00:58:34.060 --> 00:58:37.060
  • OOH, OOH, OOH, OOH
  • 00:58:45.070 --> 00:58:48.070
  • GOD IS PATIENT
  • 00:58:48.070 --> 00:58:49.010
  • GOD IS KIND
  • 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.280
  • HE DOES NOT ENVY
  • 00:58:54.040 --> 00:58:57.040
  • HE DOES NOT BOAST
  • 00:58:57.080 --> 00:59:00.100
  • HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN MY
  • 00:59:00.140 --> 00:59:03.140
  • OWN
  • 00:59:03.140 --> 00:59:05.120
  • HIS THOUGHTS CONSUME THE GRET
  • 00:59:05.120 --> 00:59:07.130
  • UNKNOWN
  • 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.280
  • OF THIS ALONE I AM SURE,
  • 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.280