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Praise | April 24, 2017

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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Jefferson & Alyssa Bethke.

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Praise | April 24, 2017

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  • - ANNOUNCER: ALOHA FROM THE BEAUTIFUL ISLAND OF MAUI,
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  • HOME OF TONIGHT'S GUESTS.
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  • WITH OVER 50 MILLION VIEWS OF HIS SPOKEN WORDS VIDEOS.
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  • JEFFERSON BETHKE SHOT TO FAME ON THE INTERNET.
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  • ALONG WITH HIS WIFE ALYSSA, THE BETHKES ARE MAKING AN
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  • IMPACT WITH BELIEVERS OF ALL AGES.
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  • - SEE, THE PROBLEM WITH RELIGION IS IT NEVER
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  • GETS TO THE CORE.
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  • IT'S JUST BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION LIKE
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  • A LONG LIST OF CHORES.
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  • LIKE LET'S DRESS UP THE OUTSIDE AND MAKE IT
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  • LOOK NICE AND NEAT, BUT IT'S FUNNY.
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  • THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO DO TO MUMMIES WHILE THE
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  • CORPSE ROTS UNDERNEATH.
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  • - ANNOUNCER: JOIN MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH FOR TONIGHT'S
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  • PRAISE ON LOCATION IN HAWAII.
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  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
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  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
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  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
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  • - MATT CROUCH: TODAY'S PRAISE PROGRAM WINS THE
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  • AWARD FOR THE MOST BEAUTIFUL LOCATION MAYBE EVER.
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  • THIS IS NOT GILLIGAN'S ISLAND.
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  • THIS IS MAUI, HAWAII, AND JEFF BETHKE, WE'RE TALKING
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  • ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT ON
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  • PRAISE BEFORE.
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  • LET'S CALL IT SOMETHING LIKE NEW MEDIA, NEW EVANGELISM.
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  • WHAT DO YOU DO AND HOW DID YOU GET STARTED?
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  • - YEAH, SO I GOT STARTED BEFORE WE GOT MARRIED ABOUT
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  • FIVE YEARS AGO.
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  • I STARTED MAKING YOU TUBE VIDEOS FOR FUN.
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  • THIS WAS PURELY FOR FUN.
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  • I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE -- I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT
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  • MILLENNIALS DO.
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  • WE BREATHE AND WE MAKE VIDEOS.
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  • THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS WE DO, RIGHT?
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  • SO I THOUGHT WE'D MAKE SOME VIDEOS WITH MY BUDDY OF MINE
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  • WHO'S A VIDEOGRAPHER, AND I WAS REALLY INTO SPOKEN WORD.
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  • SO WE STARTED MAKING SPOKEN WORD VIDEOS, AND THEN AS YOU
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  • KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE KNOW,
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  • INSTANTLY, I THINK IT WAS MY SECOND YOU TUBE VIDEO EVER,
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  • IT WENT VIRAL AND WENT CRAZY.
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  • BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, I STUMBLED INTO THIS KIND OF
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  • CULTURAL MOMENT WHERE THINGS LIKE YOU TUBE, SNAPCHAT,
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  • INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MEDIUMS ARE
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  • POPPING UP, AND IT'S GIVING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY
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  • TO TALK ABOUT JESUS.
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  • AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE LEARNED SINCE THEN.
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  • I THINK A SOCIOLOGIST THAT I READ WAS SAYING SOMETHING TO
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  • THE EXTENT OF THERE WAS KIND OF THE GUTENBERG MOMENT,
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  • LIKE THE PRINTING PRESS WAS A VERY BIG DEAL AND HOW
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  • INFORMATION STARTED TO CHANGE AND PASS THROUGH SOCIETIES?
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  • AND WE'RE IN THAT GUTENBERG MOMENT NOW WITH THE
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  • INTERNET, MEANING THE WAY THE INTERNET HAS INFILTRATED
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  • OUR CULTURE IS RADICALLY SHAPING THE WORLD IN THE
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  • SAME WAY THE PRINTING PRESS DID 500 YEARS AGO.
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  • - SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS WITHOUT THE
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  • USE OF TRADITIONAL SATELLITES, WITHOUT USE OF
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  • TRADITIONAL CABLE TELEVISION, BASICALLY,
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  • MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
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  • AFFECTED BY -- AND BY THE WAY, GRANDMA AND GRANDPA,
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  • YOU'RE WATCHING, AND YOU DON'T GO TO YOU TUBE, AND
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  • YOU DON'T DO ALL OF THAT, WE MIGHT BE INTRODUCING YOU TO
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  • JEFFERSON BETHKE, WE MIGHT, AND HIS WIFE ALYSSA.
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  • SO LISTEN, WE MIGHT BE INTRODUCING YOU GUYS TO SOME.
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  • - BUT WE'RE GOING TO PLAY.
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  • - BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE FREAKING OUT RIGHT NOW.
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  • - SO WE CAN WATCH.
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  • - AND GOING OH, MY GOD!
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  • ISN'T THAT THE GUY FROM THE -- YEAH, OKAY.
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  • HE'S THAT GUY FROM THAT THING, OKAY?
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  • HE'S THAT GUY.
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  • - THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS SAY.
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  • - ARE YOU THAT GUY? YOU KNOW THAT ONE GUY?
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  • - THAT GUY FROM THAT THING? - THAT GUY!
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  • - THEY NEVER KNOW THE EXACT PHRASE, BUT THAT'S SO FUNNY.
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  • - BASICALLY, THE TERM HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE,
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  • "WHY I HATE RELIGION".
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  • CERTAINLY, THAT HAS BEEN SAID.
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  • JESUS, IN ESSENCE, SAID IS IT IN NOT SO MANY WORDS,
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  • AND SO FOR 2000 YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE DECLARED
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  • THEY HATE RELIGION.
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  • BUT SITTING WITH US MIGHT BE THE GUY THAT SAID IT, AND IT
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  • REVERBERATED MORE THAN ANYTHING.
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  • AND GRANDMA, GRANDPA, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS --
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  • LOOK INTO YOUR CAMERA. JUST SMILE REAL BIG.
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  • JUST WAVE. LIKE SAY, HEY, MOM.
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  • - HEY, MOM, IF YOU'RE WATCHING.
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  • - AND SO IF WE'RE INTRODUCING THIS YOUNG
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  • COUPLE TO YOU, OKAY, BUT CALL YOUR KIDS.
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  • CALL YOUR GRAND KIDS AND SAY, THE GUY FROM THE THING,
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  • "WHY I HATE RELIGION", IS ON TBN RIGHT NOW,
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  • RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
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  • BY THE WAY, HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT.
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  • WE'RE WORKING ON A NEW SERIES WITH YOU.
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  • - YES.
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  • - THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
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  • TBN'S BEEN OPERATING A TRADITIONAL -- IN OUR DAY,
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  • WE HAVE THESE THINGS CALLED TV STATIONS?
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  • - I'VE HEARD OF THOSE. - YOU'VE HEARD OF THEM?
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  • - I'VE HEARD OF THEM, YEAH.
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  • MY MOM USED TO TELL ME ABOUT THOSE.
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  • - DO THEY STILL EXIST?
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  • - WE HAVE ONE OVER ON ANOTHER ISLAND CALLED OAHU.
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  • THIS IS MAUI, IF YOU JUST TUNED IN.
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  • AND SO I'M GIVING YOU A MOMENT SO THAT YOU CAN CALL
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  • SOMEONE AND LET THEM KNOW JEFFERSON BETHKE AND HIS
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  • WIFE ALYSSA ARE HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
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  • "WHY I HATE RELIGION" IN JUST A SECOND.
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  • BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TODAY, IN
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  • ADDITION TO NEW MEDIA -- NEW EVANGELISM, WHATEVER YOU
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  • WANT TO CALL IT -- YOU CARE DEEPLY ABOUT YOUR CONTENT.
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  • SO BEFORE WE GO TO "WHY I HATE RELIGION",
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  • WHERE DID THAT COME FROM, OKAY?
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  • TAKE US BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLACE THAT PUT
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  • US IN THAT SETTING. TELL US THAT STORY.
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  • - NOW, IT IS A FUNNY STORY BECAUSE YOU CAN KIND OF
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  • TRACE THAT POEM WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP.
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  • WE WERE DATING AT THE TIME, NOT MARRIED.
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  • SO IT'S FUNNY TO HEAR OUR PERSPECTIVES.
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  • - NO, WE WEREN'T EVEN DATING.
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  • - WE WEREN'T? - WE WERE BROKEN UP.
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  • - SO WE STARTED DATING JUST A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT,
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  • A LITTLE AFTER THAT.
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  • - I LIKE THIS STORY ALREADY.
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  • - WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROGRAM ALL ABOUT THAT.
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  • - JUST THANK ME.
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  • - WE STARTED DATING WITHIN THAT YEAR, I THINK, AGAIN.
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  • BUT YEAH, SO WHERE IT CAME FROM IS BASICALLY, I WAS
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  • GOING TO A LIBERAL ARTS, NON-CHRISTIAN COLLEGE
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  • OUTSIDE OF PORTLAND, OREGON.
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  • - WITH A BROKEN HEART. - TOTALLY, TOTALLY.
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  • - IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST LIBERAL SCHOOLS.
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  • - YEAH, IT WAS VERY PROGRESSIVE,
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  • LIBERAL-THINKING SCHOOL, AND I LOVED IT,
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  • IT WAS A GREAT SCHOOL.
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  • BUT THE WORLD'S VIEW THERE WAS JESUS, WHEN YOU SAID
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  • JESUS, THEY THOUGHT RELIGION, RIGHT?
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  • YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, DON'T DO THIS.
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  • YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR WAY TO HEAVEN.
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  • YOU HAVE TO EAT THIS RIGHT WAY, PRAY THE RIGHT WAY, DO
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  • ALL OF THESE THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
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  • AND I WOULD HEAR THEM KIND OF REPEAT THAT BACK TO ME
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  • WHEN I WOULD SAY, HEY, TALK TO THEM ABOUT JESUS.
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  • - BECAUSE YOU WERE A RESIDENT ASSISTANT, SO YOU
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  • WERE HAVING ALL OF THESE BIBLE STUDIES ON CAMPUS,
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  • BUT ONLY LIKE ONE GUY WOULD SHOW UP.
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  • AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THIS ISN'T REALLY WORKING.
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  • - TOTALLY, TOTALLY, AND SO INSTEAD OF THEM COMING TO
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  • ME, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • I'M GOING TO GO WRITE THIS IN A POEM FORM AND TAKE IT
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  • TO THEM DURING AN OPEN MIC, AND THAT'S WHERE
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  • IT REALLY CAME FROM.
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  • IT WASN'T TO TRY TO GO VIRAL.
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  • IT WAS JUST REALLY A POEM WRITTEN FOR A COUPLE
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  • HUNDRED STUDENTS AT A UNIVERSITY IN OREGON.
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  • - SO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU WERE IN, THE FACT YOU
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  • WERE BROKEN UP WITH ALYSSA...
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  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - ALL OF THE FACTORS KIND OF STARTED WHAT HAS BEEN
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  • SEEN TENS OF MILLIONS OF TIMES AROUND THE
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  • WORLD ON YOU TUBE AND OTHER
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  • PLATFORMS, FACEBOOK, ALL OF THAT. WATCH THIS NOW.
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  • WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, "WHY I HATE RELIGION",
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  • JEFFERSON BETHKE.
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  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
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  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
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  • - WHAT IF I TOLD YOU JESUS CAME TO ABOLISH RELIGION?
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  • WHAT IF I TOLD YOU VOTING REPUBLICAN REALLY
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  • WASN'T HIS MISSION?
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  • WHAT IF I TOLD YOU REPUBLICAN DOESN'T
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  • AUTOMATICALLY MEAN CHRISTIAN, AND JUST BECAUSE
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  • YOU CALL SOME PEOPLE BLIND DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY
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  • GIVE YOU VISION?
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  • I MEAN, IF RELIGION IS SO GREAT, WHY THAT'S
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  • STARTED SO MANY WARS?
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  • WHY DOES IT BUILD HUGE CHURCHES BUT FAILS
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  • TO FEED THE POOR?
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  • TELLS SINGLE MOMS THAT GOD DOESN'T LOVE THEM IF THEY'VE
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  • EVER HAD A DIVORCE, BUT IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, GOD
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  • ACTUALLY CALLS RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHORES.
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  • RELIGION MIGHT PREACH GRACE, BUT ANOTHER
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  • THING THEY PRACTICE.
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  • TEND TO RIDICULE GOAD'S PEOPLE, THEY DID IT
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  • TO JOHN THE BAPTIST.
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  • THEY CAN'T FIX THEIR PROBLEMS, SO THEY JUST MASK
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  • IT, WITHOUT REALIZING THAT RELIGION IS LIKE SPRAYING
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  • PERFUME ON A CASKET.
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  • SEE, THE PROBLEM WITH RELIGION IS IT NEVER
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  • GETS TO THE CORE.
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  • IT'S JUST BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION LIKE
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  • A LONG LIST OF CHORES.
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  • LIKE LET'S DRESS UP THE OUTSIDE, MAKE IT LOOK NICE
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  • AND NEAT, BUT IT'S FUNNY.
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  • THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO DO TO MUMMIES WHILE THE
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  • CORPSE ROTS UNDERNEATH.
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  • NOW, I AIN'T JUDGING.
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  • I'M JUST SAYING, QUIT PUTTING ON A FAKE LOOK
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  • BECAUSE THERE'S A PROBLEM WHEN PEOPLE ONLY KNOW
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  • YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN BY YOUR FACEBOOK.
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  • IN EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF LIFE, YOU KNOW
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  • THAT LOGIC'S UNWORTHY.
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  • IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU PLAY FOR THE LAKERS JUST BECAUSE
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  • YOU BOUGHT A JERSEY.
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  • SEE, THIS WAS ME, TOO, BUT NO ONE SEEMED TO BE ONTO ME.
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  • ACTING LIKE A CHURCH KID, WHILE
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  • ADDICTED TO PORNOGRAPHY.
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  • SEE, ON SUNDAY, I'D GOING TO CHURCH, BUT SATURDAY GETTING
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  • FADED ACTING AS IF I WAS SIMPLY CREATED TO JUST HAVE
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  • SEX AND GET WASTED.
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  • SEE, I SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE BUILDING THIS FACADE OF
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  • NEATNESS, BUT NOW THAT I KNOW JESUS,
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  • I BOAST IN MY WEAKNESS.
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  • BECAUSE IF GRACE IS WATER, THEN THE CHURCH
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  • SHOULD BE AN OCEAN.
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  • IT'S NOT A MUSEUM FOR GOOD PEOPLE.
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  • IT'S A HOSPITAL FOR THE BROKEN, WHICH MEANS I DON'T
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  • HAVE TO HIDE MY FAILURE.
  • 00:08:59.290 --> 00:09:02.050
  • I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY SIN BECAUSE IT
  • 00:09:02.070 --> 00:09:04.080
  • DOESN'T DEPEND ON ME. IT DEPENDS ON HIM.
  • 00:09:04.100 --> 00:09:06.010
  • SEE BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GOD'S ENEMY AND CERTAINLY NOT A
  • 00:09:06.030 --> 00:09:08.130
  • FAN, HE LOOKED DOWN AND SAID, I WANT THAT MAN.
  • 00:09:08.150 --> 00:09:11.180
  • WHICH IS WHY JESUS HATED RELIGION, AND FOR IT, HE
  • 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.160
  • CALLED THEM FOOLS.
  • 00:09:15.180 --> 00:09:17.050
  • DON'T YOU SEE SO MUCH BETTER THAN JUST
  • 00:09:17.070 --> 00:09:18.240
  • FOLLOWING SOME RULES? NOW, LET ME CLARIFY.
  • 00:09:18.260 --> 00:09:20.290
  • I LOVE THE CHURCH.
  • 00:09:21.010 --> 00:09:22.190
  • I LOVE THE BIBLE, AND YES, I BELIEVE IN SIN, BUT IF JESUS
  • 00:09:22.210 --> 00:09:25.160
  • CAME TO YOUR CHURCH, WOULD THEY ACTUALLY LET HIM IN?
  • 00:09:25.180 --> 00:09:28.070
  • SEE, REMEMBER HE WAS CALLED A GLUTTON AND A DRUNKARD BY
  • 00:09:28.090 --> 00:09:31.060
  • RELIGIOUS MEN, BUT THE SON OF GOD NEVER SUPPORTS
  • 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.220
  • SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS, NOT NOW, NOT THEN.
  • 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:36.130
  • NOW, BACK TO THE POINT.
  • 00:09:36.150 --> 00:09:38.180
  • ONE THING IS VITAL TO MENTION, HOW JESUS AND
  • 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:40.110
  • RELIGION ARE ON OPPOSITE SPECTRUMS.
  • 00:09:40.130 --> 00:09:42.240
  • SEE, ONE'S THE WORK OF GOD,
  • 00:09:42.260 --> 00:09:44.180
  • AND ONE'S A MAN-MADE INVENTION.
  • 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.210
  • SEE, ONE IS THE CURE, BUT THE OTHER IS THE INFECTION.
  • 00:09:46.230 --> 00:09:49.190
  • SEE, BECAUSE RELIGION SAYS "DO".
  • 00:09:49.210 --> 00:09:52.240
  • JESUS SAYS "DONE". RELIGION SAYS "SLAVE".
  • 00:09:52.260 --> 00:09:56.030
  • JESUS SAYS "SON".
  • 00:09:56.050 --> 00:09:58.090
  • RELIGION PUT YOU IN BONDAGE,
  • 00:09:58.110 --> 00:10:00.060
  • WHILE JESUS SETS YOU FREE.
  • 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.080
  • RELIGION MAKES YOU BLIND, BUT JESUS MAKES YOU SEE.
  • 00:10:02.100 --> 00:10:05.040
  • AND THAT'S WHY RELIGION AND JESUS ARE
  • 00:10:05.060 --> 00:10:07.000
  • TWO DIFFERENT CLANS.
  • 00:10:07.020 --> 00:10:08.230
  • RELIGION IS MAN SEARCHING FOR GOD.
  • 00:10:08.250 --> 00:10:11.020
  • CHRISTIANITY IS GOD SEARCHING FOR MAN, WHICH IS
  • 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:13.180
  • WHY SALVATION IS FREELY MINE, AND FORGIVENESS IS MY
  • 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.150
  • OWN, NOT BASED ON MY MERITS, BUT JESUS' OBEDIENCE ALONE.
  • 00:10:16.170 --> 00:10:21.000
  • BECAUSE HE TOOK THE CROWN OF THORNS, AND THE BLOOD
  • 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:23.190
  • DRIPPED DOWN HIS FACE.
  • 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:25.100
  • HE TOOK WHAT WE ALL DESERVED.
  • 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:26.250
  • I GUESS THAT WHY WE CALL IT GRACE.
  • 00:10:26.270 --> 00:10:28.230
  • AND WHILE BEING MURDERED, HE YELLED, "FATHER, FORGIVE
  • 00:10:28.250 --> 00:10:31.040
  • THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO."
  • 00:10:31.060 --> 00:10:32.230
  • BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS DANGLING ON THAT CROSS,
  • 00:10:32.250 --> 00:10:34.180
  • HE WAS THINKING OF YOU.
  • 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:37.030
  • AND HE ABSORBED ALL OF YOUR SIN, AND HE BURIED IT IN THE
  • 00:10:37.050 --> 00:10:39.160
  • TOMB, WHICH IS WHY I'M KNEELING AT THE CROSS
  • 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:41.250
  • SAYING, "COME ON, THERE'S ROOM."
  • 00:10:41.270 --> 00:10:43.270
  • SO FOR RELIGION, NO, I HATE IT.
  • 00:10:43.290 --> 00:10:46.080
  • IN FACT, I LITERALLY RESENT IT BECAUSE WHEN JESUS SAID,
  • 00:10:46.100 --> 00:10:49.150
  • "IT IS FINISHED," I BELIEVE HE MEANT IT.
  • 00:10:49.170 --> 00:10:52.160
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:10:52.180 --> 00:11:02.100
  • - JEFFERSON, LET'S JUST FIRST OF ALL EXPLAIN WHY
  • 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:06.220
  • WE'RE WEARING NECKLACES, OKAY?
  • 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.030
  • SO WHY ARE WE WEARING NECKLACES?
  • 00:11:08.050 --> 00:11:09.170
  • - THESE ARE KUKUI NUTS, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY, IF YOU
  • 00:11:09.190 --> 00:11:11.110
  • LIVE IN HAWAII, JUST A TRADITIONAL GREETING
  • 00:11:11.130 --> 00:11:12.190
  • FOR GUYS TO WEAR.
  • 00:11:12.210 --> 00:11:13.290
  • OBVIOUSLY THE LADIES ARE WEARING THE FLOWER LEIS WITH
  • 00:11:14.010 --> 00:11:15.100
  • AWESOME, AUTHENTIC FLOWERS.
  • 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.220
  • SOMETIMES THE TOURISTS GET THE CHEAP PLASTIC ONES.
  • 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.030
  • THESE ARE THE REAL ONES.
  • 00:11:19.050 --> 00:11:20.190
  • - ALL RIGHT, YOU LIVE HERE. WHERE ARE WE?
  • 00:11:20.210 --> 00:11:22.030
  • - SO WE ARE IN OLOWALU, WHICH IS A TOWN ABOUT 20
  • 00:11:22.050 --> 00:11:24.000
  • MINUTES FROM WHERE WE LIVE IN KIHE, AND WE LOVE MAUI.
  • 00:11:24.020 --> 00:11:26.040
  • WE LIVED HERE BECAUSE ALYSSA USED TO WORK AT A CHURCH
  • 00:11:26.060 --> 00:11:28.100
  • HERE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE AND WHERE WE'RE RAISING
  • 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.180
  • A FAMILY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.020
  • - OKAY. - NOT TOO BAD.
  • 00:11:32.040 --> 00:11:33.130
  • - OKAY, WE FOLLOW YOU ON INSTAGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF
  • 00:11:33.150 --> 00:11:35.190
  • THOSE THINGS, FACEBOOK, SNAPCHAT, INSTAGRAM.
  • 00:11:35.210 --> 00:11:38.190
  • AND YOU HAVE ADORABLE CHILDREN.
  • 00:11:38.210 --> 00:11:41.100
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.220
  • - AND WE'LL PUT IN A BUNCH OF PICTURES OF
  • 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.020
  • YOUR ADORABLE CHILDREN.
  • 00:11:44.040 --> 00:11:45.170
  • SO THE IDEA THAT YOU NOW WERE RAISED WHERE?
  • 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:48.250
  • - WE WERE BOTH RAISED IN SEATTLE,
  • 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:51.020
  • BOTH RAISED IN SEATTLE.
  • 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:52.170
  • - AND THEN HOW DID YOU GO FROM THE RAIN TO THE SUNSHINE?
  • 00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:55.010
  • HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
  • 00:11:55.030 --> 00:11:56.150
  • - YOU TELL THEM.
  • 00:11:56.170 --> 00:11:57.280
  • - SO AFTER COLLEGE, I GRADUATED WITH A BIBLE
  • 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.250
  • DEGREE, AND I WANTED TO DO MISSIONS, AND I WENT ON A
  • 00:11:59.270 --> 00:12:02.110
  • MISSIONS TRIP, AND IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT.
  • 00:12:02.130 --> 00:12:04.070
  • I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SO FOR ME.
  • 00:12:04.090 --> 00:12:06.230
  • SO I WAS ONLINE, AND I FOUND AN INTERNSHIP IN MAUI
  • 00:12:06.250 --> 00:12:09.030
  • WORKING WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS AT A CHURCH AND
  • 00:12:09.050 --> 00:12:11.200
  • FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.
  • 00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:13.040
  • AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS LIKE WHEN I WAS 22, 23, I KIND OF
  • 00:12:13.060 --> 00:12:15.290
  • REALLY LEARNED TO PUT ON MY BIG GIRL SHOES AND HOW TO
  • 00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:17.270
  • MAKE BIG DECISIONS AND BUY MY OWN IBUPROFEN,
  • 00:12:17.290 --> 00:12:21.140
  • JUST BIG THINGS LIKE THAT.
  • 00:12:21.160 --> 00:12:23.000
  • - THAT'S A HUGE DECISION. - YEAH.
  • 00:12:23.020 --> 00:12:24.290
  • - I FEEL LIKE THE LORD HEALED A LOT OF THINGS
  • 00:12:25.010 --> 00:12:26.270
  • IN ME IN MAUI, AND I REALLY GREW UP.
  • 00:12:26.290 --> 00:12:30.050
  • - SO IT BECAME A REALLY SPECIAL PLACE.
  • 00:12:30.070 --> 00:12:32.040
  • - REALLY SPECIAL, AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY, PEOPLE
  • 00:12:32.060 --> 00:12:33.260
  • TO POUR INTO ME.
  • 00:12:33.280 --> 00:12:35.130
  • AND I DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE HOME AT ALL, BUT I COULDN'T
  • 00:12:35.150 --> 00:12:37.090
  • FIND A JOB HERE, SO I MOVED BACK TO WASHINGTON.
  • 00:12:37.110 --> 00:12:39.020
  • WE STARTED DATING AGAIN.
  • 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:41.000
  • WE GOT MARRIED, AND THEN WE HAD OUR DAUGHTER,
  • 00:12:41.020 --> 00:12:44.140
  • AND WE JUST REALIZED WE REALLY WANTED TO RAISE
  • 00:12:44.160 --> 00:12:47.040
  • A FAMILY IN MAUI.
  • 00:12:47.060 --> 00:12:49.010
  • - AND A PLACE TO SLOW DOWN.
  • 00:12:49.030 --> 00:12:51.040
  • - SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:12:51.060 --> 00:12:53.010
  • AND BACK HOME, WE WERE LIKE THE TOKEN COUPLE.
  • 00:12:53.030 --> 00:12:54.240
  • WE WERE THE ONLY MARRIED ONES IN OUR GROUP OF
  • 00:12:54.260 --> 00:12:56.170
  • FRIENDS, LET ALONE WE A LITTLE GIRL, AND WE HAD TO
  • 00:12:56.190 --> 00:12:58.230
  • LEAVE AT LIKE 6 O'CLOCK TO ALL THE PARTIES.
  • 00:12:58.250 --> 00:13:01.010
  • SO WE JUST WERE REALLY HOPING FOR COMMUNITY AND
  • 00:13:01.030 --> 00:13:04.080
  • OTHER FAMILIES TO DO LIFE WITH AND OUR KIDS
  • 00:13:04.100 --> 00:13:05.250
  • TO GROW UP WITH.
  • 00:13:05.270 --> 00:13:07.200
  • - AND GETTING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT NEW MEDIA,
  • 00:13:07.220 --> 00:13:09.100
  • WHAT WE REALIZED, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT EACH AND SAID, WE
  • 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.050
  • LOVE TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT JESUS THROUGH BOOKS, THROUGH
  • 00:13:11.070 --> 00:13:13.120
  • POD CASTS, THROUGH VIDEOS.
  • 00:13:13.140 --> 00:13:15.040
  • ALL WE NEED IS AN INTERNET CONNECTION. WHY NOT MAUI?
  • 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:17.090
  • - YOU GUYS ARE BRIGHT.
  • 00:13:17.110 --> 00:13:20.100
  • - I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, THAT I THINK --
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.210
  • - EVERYONE ELSE WATCHING IS GOING, YEAH, WHY
  • 00:13:22.230 --> 00:13:24.230
  • NOT MAUI? WHY NOT?
  • 00:13:24.250 --> 00:13:26.130
  • - I WAS ABOUT TO SAY EVERYONE WANTS TO
  • 00:13:26.150 --> 00:13:27.210
  • LIVE IN MAUI.
  • 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:29.000
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:13:29.020 --> 00:13:30.150
  • - I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:13:30.170 --> 00:13:33.250
  • BEAUTIFUL SPOTS.
  • 00:13:33.270 --> 00:13:35.110
  • - IT IS, IT IS.
  • 00:13:35.130 --> 00:13:36.230
  • - WHAT AN AMAZING PROGRAM.
  • 00:13:36.250 --> 00:13:38.270
  • IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, WE'RE IN HAWAII, OKAY?
  • 00:13:38.290 --> 00:13:41.290
  • MAUI SPECIFICALLY.
  • 00:13:42.010 --> 00:13:43.140
  • ALL RIGHT, SO GIVE US THE BACKGROUND TO COUNTERFEIT
  • 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:47.010
  • GODS, AND JEFF, YOUR CONTENT IS VERY
  • 00:13:47.030 --> 00:13:50.140
  • RICH AND DEEP CONTENT.
  • 00:13:50.160 --> 00:13:52.240
  • WHERE DID THIS ONE COME FROM?
  • 00:13:52.260 --> 00:13:54.070
  • - YEAH, SO THAT BUN ONE WAS -- AND WE BOTH
  • 00:13:54.090 --> 00:13:55.200
  • LOVE TIM KELLER.
  • 00:13:55.220 --> 00:13:57.010
  • THAT'S A FAVORITE AUTHOR OF OURS, AND HE HAS A BOOK
  • 00:13:57.030 --> 00:13:58.160
  • CALLED "COUNTERFEIT GODS" WHICH REALLY
  • 00:13:58.180 --> 00:13:59.260
  • INSPIRED THAT POEM.
  • 00:13:59.280 --> 00:14:01.070
  • AND BASICALLY, WHAT THAT BOOK TALKS ABOUT IS GUY,
  • 00:14:01.090 --> 00:14:03.040
  • GIRL, OLD, YOUNG, MARRIED, SINGLE, EVERYONE IS WALKING
  • 00:14:03.060 --> 00:14:06.020
  • THROUGH -- EVERYONE, SINCE SIN HAS COME INTO THE WORLD,
  • 00:14:06.040 --> 00:14:09.270
  • SINCE GENESIS 3, HAS A PROCLIVITY TO WORSHIP OTHER
  • 00:14:09.290 --> 00:14:13.110
  • THINGS BESIDES JESUS; MEANING LIKE OUR BENT, OUR
  • 00:14:13.130 --> 00:14:15.280
  • NATURAL INCLINATION IS TO WORSHIP THINGS LIKE
  • 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:20.040
  • EITHER SUBSTANCES, DRUGS, SEX, MONEY.
  • 00:14:20.060 --> 00:14:24.110
  • - OR EVEN JUST --
  • 00:14:24.130 --> 00:14:26.040
  • - OR THINGS THAT ARE EVEN GOOD LIKE YOUR JOB OR YOUR
  • 00:14:26.060 --> 00:14:28.090
  • FAMILY, BUT YOU ELEVATE THOSE TOO HIGHLY.
  • 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:29.290
  • AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT POEM CAME FROM.
  • 00:14:30.010 --> 00:14:32.130
  • THE WAY KELLER SAYS IT, WHICH KIND OF INSPIRED THE
  • 00:14:32.150 --> 00:14:34.040
  • POEM, IS DON'T TURN BAD THINGS INTO GOD THINGS, BUT
  • 00:14:34.060 --> 00:14:36.200
  • ALSO THE MOST DANGEROUS ONES IS WITH YOU TURN GOOD
  • 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:39.190
  • THINGS INTO GOD THINGS.
  • 00:14:39.210 --> 00:14:41.290
  • ONLY LET GOD BE GOD, AND EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS INTO
  • 00:14:42.010 --> 00:14:44.090
  • ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT
  • 00:14:44.110 --> 00:14:45.270
  • POEM CAME FROM.
  • 00:14:45.290 --> 00:14:47.110
  • - AND ULTIMATELY, THIS PROGRAM TODAY IS ABOUT THE
  • 00:14:47.130 --> 00:14:50.190
  • CONTENT OF JEFF BETHKE AND COUNTERFEIT
  • 00:14:50.210 --> 00:14:54.130
  • GODS, WATCH THIS.
  • 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.250
  • [FIRE CRACKLING]
  • 00:14:55.270 --> 00:15:02.030
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:15:02.050 --> 00:15:14.010
  • - YOU MIGHT SAY, "I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD",
  • 00:15:14.030 --> 00:15:17.230
  • BUT THE BIBLE SAYS NOT POSSIBLE.
  • 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:20.090
  • SEE, EVERYONE HAS A GOD, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE
  • 00:15:20.110 --> 00:15:22.090
  • GOD OF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:24.050
  • YOU MIGHT NOT BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT EVERYBODY HAS THAT
  • 00:15:24.070 --> 00:15:26.180
  • ONE THING THAT'S KING.
  • 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.150
  • EVEN THE DICTIONARY DEFINES GOD AS WHATEVER WE MAKE
  • 00:15:28.170 --> 00:15:30.110
  • SUPREME BECAUSE IT'S A THEME. IT'S A THREAD.
  • 00:15:30.130 --> 00:15:33.240
  • YOU SEE IT INSIDE ALL HUMAN BEINGS, THE FACT THAT
  • 00:15:33.260 --> 00:15:35.220
  • WE ALL WORSHIP.
  • 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.200
  • AND, NO, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SINGING.
  • 00:15:37.220 --> 00:15:39.160
  • NOW, I KNOW YOU'RE LIKE, JEFF, I DON'T WORSHIP.
  • 00:15:39.180 --> 00:15:42.110
  • I PUT THAT ON THE SHELF.
  • 00:15:42.130 --> 00:15:43.260
  • BUT I SAY TECHNICALLY, WE ALL WORSHIP.
  • 00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:45.200
  • WE JUST WORSHIP OURSELVES.
  • 00:15:45.220 --> 00:15:48.000
  • SEE, WE ALL WORSHIP SOMETHING.
  • 00:15:48.020 --> 00:15:51.000
  • TO AN OBJECT, WE'RE ALL LIABLE.
  • 00:15:51.020 --> 00:15:52.220
  • LADIES, TO SOME OF YOU, YOUR BOYFRIEND IS YOUR GOD,
  • 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.140
  • AND COSMO IS YOUR BIBLE.
  • 00:15:54.160 --> 00:15:56.150
  • YET, WE MOCK AND WE LAUGH AT THE ISRAELITES GOLDEN CALF,
  • 00:15:56.170 --> 00:15:59.230
  • BUT WE DO THE SAME THING RIGHT BACK.
  • 00:15:59.250 --> 00:16:01.290
  • IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
  • 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:04.060
  • SO A QUESTION: WHAT'S ON YOUR THRONE?
  • 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.230
  • SEE, WHAT ARE YOU CHASING SO YOU DON'T FEEL ALONE?
  • 00:16:07.250 --> 00:16:10.150
  • SEE, WHAT DEFINES YOU?
  • 00:16:10.170 --> 00:16:12.240
  • WHAT GIVES YOU ULTIMATE WORTH?
  • 00:16:12.260 --> 00:16:14.100
  • AND WHAT, IF TAKEN, WOULD BRING ULTIMATE HURT?
  • 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.000
  • NOW, SEE, THAT IS YOUR GOD.
  • 00:16:17.020 --> 00:16:22.090
  • AND ALL OF US, WE'VE SACRIFICED DEEP JOY FOR
  • 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:24.180
  • SHALLOW HAPPINESS.
  • 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.080
  • TO BE HONEST, WE LOOK LIKE FOOLS.
  • 00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:28.040
  • WE'RE LIKE FOOL GROWN ADULTS IN THE KIDDIE POOL GOING,
  • 00:16:28.060 --> 00:16:29.250
  • OH, MY GOODNESS, GUYS, THIS IS SO COOL.
  • 00:16:29.270 --> 00:16:33.000
  • BECAUSE WE'RE SLAVES TO OUR POSSESSIONS.
  • 00:16:33.020 --> 00:16:35.100
  • WE'RE ALWAYS CRAVING SOMETHING NEW.
  • 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.140
  • IF YOU CAN'T GIVE IT UP, YOU DON'T OWN IT.
  • 00:16:37.160 --> 00:16:39.150
  • IT OWNS YOU.
  • 00:16:39.170 --> 00:16:41.210
  • AND THAT'S WHY THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE
  • 00:16:41.230 --> 00:16:44.040
  • SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTES.
  • 00:16:44.060 --> 00:16:46.150
  • IN FACT, IT EVEN SAYS WE'RE WORSE BECAUSE AT LEAST
  • 00:16:46.170 --> 00:16:49.080
  • PROSTITUTES GET PAID FOR THEIR WORKS.
  • 00:16:49.100 --> 00:16:51.180
  • ALL WE GET PAID IS OUR HURTS, AND THAT'S WHY
  • 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.190
  • WORSHIP IS NOT JUST BEHAVIOR.
  • 00:16:53.210 --> 00:16:56.100
  • IT GOES WAY THAT OUR CORE. SO I ASK WHAT IS YOUR GOD?
  • 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.120
  • WHAT DO YOU BOW DOWN BEFORE?
  • 00:16:58.140 --> 00:17:02.030
  • FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF US, WE DON'T WORSHIP GOD, BUT WE
  • 00:17:02.050 --> 00:17:06.160
  • WORSHIP WHAT HE SAID.
  • 00:17:06.180 --> 00:17:08.140
  • WE GOT THEOLOGY IN OUR HEAD, BUT IN OUR HEARTS, WE'RE
  • 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.100
  • PITIFUL, NAKED AND DEAD.
  • 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:13.000
  • OR SOME OF US WORSHIP IN STADIUMS, WHILE SOME
  • 00:17:13.020 --> 00:17:15.120
  • OF US WORSHIP IN BARS.
  • 00:17:15.140 --> 00:17:17.080
  • SOME OF US WORSHIP OUR POSSESSIONS, WHILE SOME
  • 00:17:17.100 --> 00:17:19.030
  • OF US WORSHIP OUR CARS.
  • 00:17:19.050 --> 00:17:21.020
  • SEE, SOME OF US WORSHIP SCIENCE, WHILE SOME
  • 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:23.020
  • OF US WORSHIP THE ARTS.
  • 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:25.030
  • BUT I DON'T CARE WHAT COLORS YOUR IDOL'S WEARING,
  • 00:17:25.050 --> 00:17:26.280
  • THE DISEASE IS THE HEART.
  • 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.010
  • OR MY FAVORITE IS THOSE GUYS WHO SAY, JEFF, I'M A MAN
  • 00:17:29.030 --> 00:17:31.060
  • BECAUSE I'M IN CONTROL.
  • 00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:33.140
  • OKAY, THEN TELL ME WHY CAN'T YOU STOP HAVING SEX WITH
  • 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.160
  • YOUR HAND WHILE STARING AT YOUR MAC BOOK PRO?
  • 00:17:35.180 --> 00:17:38.070
  • OR WHAT ABOUT THOSE GUYS WHO TRADE THEIR WIVES
  • 00:17:38.090 --> 00:17:40.060
  • FOR THEIR JOBS AT WORK.
  • 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:41.270
  • GIVE MORE TIME TO THEIR BOSS THAN THEIR ACTUAL
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  • WIVES' NEEDS OR HURTS.
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  • AND LADIES, LADIES, NO GUY CAN LOVE YOU MORE THAN JESUS
  • 00:17:46.030 --> 00:17:49.050
  • ALREADY HAS, SO STOP PUTTING YOUR WORTH IN MAGIC MIKE.
  • 00:17:49.070 --> 00:17:52.070
  • HE'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT.
  • 00:17:52.090 --> 00:17:54.050
  • NOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. YOU'RE
  • 00:17:54.070 --> 00:17:56.260
  • PROBABLY THINKING, JEFF, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD
  • 00:17:56.280 --> 00:17:58.270
  • HATE MONEY, HATE ALCOHOL, AND NEVER HAVE SEX?
  • 00:17:58.290 --> 00:18:02.020
  • NO, BUT I'M SAYING GOD CREATED THOSE ALL TO BE
  • 00:18:02.040 --> 00:18:03.210
  • ENJOYED IN THEIR PROPER CONTEXT.
  • 00:18:03.230 --> 00:18:07.060
  • BUT I WANT TO TRANSITION.
  • 00:18:07.080 --> 00:18:08.220
  • I WANT TO MAKE A SPIRITUAL INCISION.
  • 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:10.240
  • CAN WE REALLY SAY THESE THINGS ARE THE ULTIMATE
  • 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:12.190
  • PURPOSE OF LIVING?
  • 00:18:12.210 --> 00:18:14.100
  • INSTEAD OF WORSHIP THE CREATOR OF YOU AND I,
  • 00:18:14.120 --> 00:18:16.090
  • WE'VE ALL SAID, SCREW YOU, GOD.
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:18.240
  • I'LL TAKE YOUR STUFF, BUT YOU CAN DIE.
  • 00:18:18.260 --> 00:18:21.030
  • THAT TRADE IS TERRIBLE, TRADING GOD FOR MAN.
  • 00:18:21.050 --> 00:18:24.070
  • AND IT'S LIKE GOD OFFERS US WATER, BUT WE SAY, GOD, THIS
  • 00:18:24.090 --> 00:18:26.120
  • IS SUCH GOOD SAND.
  • 00:18:26.140 --> 00:18:28.170
  • OR MY FRIENDS WILL SAY, JEFF, A GOD THAT REQUIRES ME
  • 00:18:28.190 --> 00:18:31.010
  • TO GIVE UP SOMETHING, I JUST CAN'T FATHOM.
  • 00:18:31.030 --> 00:18:33.070
  • YET, MOST OF US SEEM FINE GIVING UP EVERYTHING
  • 00:18:33.090 --> 00:18:35.010
  • FOR A QUICK ORGASM.
  • 00:18:35.030 --> 00:18:36.250
  • I MEAN, AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO'S FELT
  • 00:18:36.270 --> 00:18:38.280
  • THE GNAWING WITHIN?
  • 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:40.210
  • AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO'S FELT THE WEIGHT OF MY OWN SIN?
  • 00:18:40.230 --> 00:18:43.220
  • SEE, HERE'S WHAT'S UNIQUE.
  • 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:46.140
  • GO AHEAD AND CRITIQUE, BUT IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING, HEAR
  • 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:48.210
  • THIS ONE THING THAT I SPEAK.
  • 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:51.170
  • WHERE WE EXCHANGE OURSELVES FOR GOD THINKING WE COULD BE
  • 00:18:51.190 --> 00:18:54.000
  • HIM, HE EXCHANGED HIMSELF FOR US
  • 00:18:54.020 --> 00:18:56.030
  • ABSORBING ALL OUR SIN.
  • 00:18:56.050 --> 00:18:58.140
  • I MEAN, GOD LITERALLY PUT ON FLESH, AND DO YOU SEE
  • 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:00.160
  • HOW WE TREATED HIM?
  • 00:19:00.180 --> 00:19:02.060
  • THE ULTIMATE WAR VETERAN, BECAUSE HE WAS
  • 00:19:02.080 --> 00:19:04.020
  • KILLED FOR OUR FREEDOM.
  • 00:19:04.040 --> 00:19:05.240
  • NONETHELESS, HE WAS THINKING OF YOU AND ME WITH EVERY
  • 00:19:05.260 --> 00:19:07.280
  • WHIP THAT BEAT HIM KNOWING FULL WELL WE'D STILL GO,
  • 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:09.230
  • NAH, I DON'T REALLY NEED HIM.
  • 00:19:09.250 --> 00:19:12.120
  • BUT LIKE A FATHER, HE COULDN'T BEAR HIS CHILDREN
  • 00:19:12.140 --> 00:19:15.110
  • TO NOT BE FREE, SO HE THOUGHT UP THAT TREE; PAID
  • 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:18.040
  • OUR FEE FOR SPECKS OF DIRT LIKE AND YOU ME.
  • 00:19:18.060 --> 00:19:20.200
  • SO MY PLEA IS LET HIM RESTORE HIS PROPER PLACE.
  • 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:23.120
  • I PROMISE HE LOVES YOU RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:19:23.140 --> 00:19:26.050
  • JUST TRUST IN HIS GRACE BECAUSE BEFORE I LEAVE, I'LL
  • 00:19:26.070 --> 00:19:28.200
  • LEAVE YOU WITH THIS: WHAT OF THOSE OTHER THINGS TOOK
  • 00:19:28.220 --> 00:19:32.030
  • NAILS IN THEIR WRISTS?
  • 00:19:32.050 --> 00:19:34.100
  • OR HOW ABOUT WHEN'S THE LAST TIME MONEY OR
  • 00:19:34.120 --> 00:19:36.040
  • SEX FORGAVE YOU?
  • 00:19:36.060 --> 00:19:37.280
  • WHEN DID YOUR BOYFRIEND SET YOU FREE FROM ALL
  • 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.160
  • OF YOUR ENSLAVED TO?
  • 00:19:39.180 --> 00:19:41.050
  • SEE, WHAT ELSE DIED SO THAT YOU COULD BE MADE NEW?
  • 00:19:41.070 --> 00:19:43.250
  • OR WHEN'S THE LAST TIME THE WORLD PROMISED SATISFACTION
  • 00:19:43.270 --> 00:19:45.210
  • AND ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH?
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  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:19:48.120 --> 00:20:02.000
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:11.130
  • - WE ARE BASKING HERE IN THE BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON SUN
  • 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:15.140
  • RIGHT HERE IN MAUI.
  • 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.140
  • WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE THING.
  • 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:22.080
  • BEFORE WE GET INTO DARKNESS IS LOSING, I WANT TO TALK
  • 00:20:22.100 --> 00:20:25.210
  • ABOUT YOUR CONTENT.
  • 00:20:25.230 --> 00:20:28.010
  • I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING
  • 00:20:28.030 --> 00:20:34.130
  • ABOUT YOU, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE VERY RICH, DEEP,
  • 00:20:34.150 --> 00:20:38.260
  • THOUGHT OUT THINGS.
  • 00:20:38.280 --> 00:20:41.120
  • WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM?
  • 00:20:41.140 --> 00:20:43.150
  • - WHAT'S YOUR INSPIRATION BESIDES MAUI?
  • 00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:45.090
  • - I MEAN, MAUI DOES INSPIRE. IF YOU WANT TO GET AWAY
  • 00:20:45.110 --> 00:20:47.140
  • AND KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE GET AWAY TIME TO THINK AND READ.
  • 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.080
  • THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS, THOUGH.
  • 00:20:49.100 --> 00:20:51.210
  • ME AND ALYSSA ARE BOTH HUGE READERS, AND I WOULD SAY
  • 00:20:51.230 --> 00:20:53.200
  • IT'S A CLICHE' QUOTE, BUT LEADERS ARE READERS.
  • 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:57.020
  • AND I THINK I HEARD THAT GROWING UP AND SO I ALWAYS
  • 00:20:57.040 --> 00:20:59.150
  • KNEW THAT IF I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS IN THE
  • 00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:04.180
  • CAPACITY WE'RE DOING NOW, WE NEED TO BE ABLE
  • 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:06.200
  • TO KNOW THINGS.
  • 00:21:06.220 --> 00:21:08.040
  • WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD CONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:21:08.060 --> 00:21:09.120
  • WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO THINK.
  • 00:21:09.140 --> 00:21:10.230
  • AND ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND
  • 00:21:10.250 --> 00:21:12.000
  • AUTHORITY WITH WHAT WE DO.
  • 00:21:12.020 --> 00:21:13.100
  • THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE AND WEIGHT ON WHAT WE DO.
  • 00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:15.160
  • SO I THINK WE FEEL THAT IN A GOOD WAY, MAN,
  • 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:17.130
  • WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:19.030
  • WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK INTO THOSE PEOPLE'S LIVES.
  • 00:21:19.050 --> 00:21:21.140
  • - SO WE HAVE A LOT OF MENTORS TO POUR INTO US THAT
  • 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.260
  • ARE OLDER AND WISER AND ARE REALLY GIFTED IN CERTAIN
  • 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:27.090
  • AREAS THAT WE TALK TO A LOT, AND THEY GIVE US A LOT OF
  • 00:21:27.110 --> 00:21:30.180
  • OUR WISDOM, I FEEL LIKE.
  • 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:32.210
  • BECAUSE WHAT'S THAT QUOTE ABOUT "YOU CAN
  • 00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:34.280
  • ONLY GIVE WHAT YOU HAVE."
  • 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:36.150
  • - PRETTY MUCH.
  • 00:21:36.170 --> 00:21:37.290
  • - SO YOU CAN'T POUR OUT FROM AN EMPTY PLACE, SO WE
  • 00:21:38.010 --> 00:21:39.160
  • HAVE A LOT OF MENTORS TO POUR INTO US SO
  • 00:21:39.180 --> 00:21:41.010
  • WE CAN POUR IT, TOO.
  • 00:21:41.030 --> 00:21:42.190
  • - WE HAVE FAKE MENTORS, WHICH CAN BASICALLY AUTHORS,
  • 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:44.130
  • PEOPLE WE'VE NEVER MET.
  • 00:21:44.150 --> 00:21:46.020
  • WE STILL SEE THEM AS OUR MENTORS.
  • 00:21:46.040 --> 00:21:48.050
  • AND THEN WE HAVE REAL MENTORS, PEOPLE THAT WE
  • 00:21:48.070 --> 00:21:49.180
  • OBVIOUSLY ARE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH, AND THOSE
  • 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:51.070
  • ARE OUR INSPIRATIONS.
  • 00:21:51.090 --> 00:21:52.230
  • - YOU KIND OF ALMOST SEE YOURSELF,
  • 00:21:52.250 --> 00:21:54.010
  • JEFFERSON, AS PASTORS?
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  • - I MAIN, I AM ORDAINED, AND I JUST DID DO A WEDDING
  • 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.100
  • A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, SO I GUESS I AM.
  • 00:21:57.120 --> 00:21:58.240
  • - BUT HONESTLY?
  • 00:21:58.260 --> 00:22:00.100
  • - I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
  • 00:22:00.120 --> 00:22:01.270
  • FROM A TRADITIONAL LIKE GREEK WORD ECCLESIA CHURCH,
  • 00:22:01.290 --> 00:22:05.180
  • AS AN AUTHORITY OVER THAT? NO, I DON'T.
  • 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.150
  • BUT FROM A STANCE OF SHEPHERDING, TOTALLY.
  • 00:22:07.170 --> 00:22:09.290
  • I FEEL LIKE WE, IN AN INFORMAL WAY, WE TOTALLY ARE
  • 00:22:10.010 --> 00:22:13.100
  • PASTORAL, HOPEFULLY, IN OUR YOU TUBE MINISTRY.
  • 00:22:13.120 --> 00:22:17.170
  • THERE IS KIND OF AN INTERNET CHURCH, PER SE', OF PEOPLE
  • 00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:19.260
  • WHO WOULD TUNE IN MONTH WON'T TUNE IN
  • 00:22:19.280 --> 00:22:21.050
  • IN OTHER CAPACITIES.
  • 00:22:21.070 --> 00:22:22.240
  • AND LIKE TBN, PEOPLE TURN ON THAT TBN THAT DON'T GO
  • 00:22:22.260 --> 00:22:24.120
  • TO CHURCH AND THAT DON'T SHOW UP.
  • 00:22:24.140 --> 00:22:25.220
  • SO WE GET TO GO TO THEM.
  • 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:27.060
  • SO I THINK FROM AN INFORMAL STANDPOINT, I TOTALLY SEE US
  • 00:22:27.080 --> 00:22:29.050
  • AS KIND OF INTERNET PASTORS OR SHEPHERDING PEOPLE
  • 00:22:29.070 --> 00:22:30.290
  • ON THE INTERNET.
  • 00:22:31.010 --> 00:22:33.080
  • - AND I THINK THAT'S THE COOLEST THING ABOUT THE
  • 00:22:33.100 --> 00:22:35.010
  • INTERNET OR TV IS YOU GO TO THEM, AND I THINK WE'VE
  • 00:22:35.030 --> 00:22:38.230
  • GOTTEN SO MANY E-MAILS WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, "I'M GOING
  • 00:22:38.250 --> 00:22:41.150
  • TO COMMIT SUICIDE, BUT I'M GOING TO GO ON THE INTERNET
  • 00:22:41.170 --> 00:22:42.270
  • ONE MORE TIME."
  • 00:22:42.290 --> 00:22:44.090
  • AND THEN THEY FIND A VIDEO, OR THEY WATCH A TV SHOW.
  • 00:22:44.110 --> 00:22:45.280
  • AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN, THEY COME TO ME THE LORD.
  • 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.000
  • SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IN A WAY --
  • 00:22:48.020 --> 00:22:50.140
  • - ALMOST LIKE THE FIRST FRONT LINE.
  • 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.070
  • - I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT.
  • 00:22:52.090 --> 00:22:55.060
  • THIS AREA THAT NOBODY ELSE IS GETTING INTO BECAUSE
  • 00:22:55.080 --> 00:22:57.230
  • THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE A FOOT IN CHURCH, BUT YOU CAN
  • 00:22:57.250 --> 00:22:59.230
  • BE IN THEIR ROOM.
  • 00:22:59.250 --> 00:23:01.260
  • - YOU KNOW HOW THE TRADITIONAL CHURCH TALKS
  • 00:23:01.280 --> 00:23:03.100
  • ABOUT THE UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUPS?
  • 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:04.240
  • THAT'S ALMOST LIKE THAT WITH PEOPLE JUST THAT DON'T GO TO
  • 00:23:04.260 --> 00:23:06.230
  • CHURCH BUT ARE ON THE INTERNET, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:23:06.250 --> 00:23:08.120
  • - OKAY, ALYSSA, YOU'RE ON A TV SHOW RIGHT NOW, SO THIS
  • 00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:11.290
  • IS TRADITIONAL TV, RIGHT?
  • 00:23:12.010 --> 00:23:14.120
  • SO YOU'RE USED TO A LITTLE CAMERA, THE INTERNET.
  • 00:23:14.140 --> 00:23:17.140
  • - I KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE WATCHED KELLY AND MICHAEL.
  • 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.100
  • HOW DO I SIT?
  • 00:23:20.120 --> 00:23:22.260
  • - TALK SHOW TV HOST, YEAH. - BIG BOY INTERNET.
  • 00:23:22.280 --> 00:23:24.180
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.090
  • - SO IT JUST COSTS MORE, THAT'S ALL.
  • 00:23:26.110 --> 00:23:29.150
  • THAT'S ALL THE DIFFERENCE IS.
  • 00:23:29.170 --> 00:23:31.060
  • - BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:32.240
  • I'M SORRY, YOU'RE SO RIGHT ABOUT REACHING PEOPLE WHERE
  • 00:23:32.260 --> 00:23:35.190
  • THEY'RE ALL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO CAN'T
  • 00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:37.220
  • EVEN GET TO CHURCH.
  • 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:39.150
  • THEY'RE EITHER STUCK IN BED OR SICK.
  • 00:23:39.170 --> 00:23:42.120
  • THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SICK OUT THERE
  • 00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:45.070
  • RIGHT NOW THAT NEED SOME PRAYER, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:23:45.090 --> 00:23:47.090
  • TBN'S HERE FOR YOU.
  • 00:23:47.110 --> 00:23:48.260
  • JEFF AND ALYSSA ARE THERE FOR YOU ON THE INTERNET.
  • 00:23:48.280 --> 00:23:51.270
  • - AND YOU GUYS ARE PIONEERS IN THAT, MEETING PEOPLE
  • 00:23:51.290 --> 00:23:53.270
  • WHERE THEY'RE AT.
  • 00:23:53.290 --> 00:23:55.150
  • I THINK THAT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:23:55.170 --> 00:23:57.040
  • - SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS YOU'RE USED TO THE WAY
  • 00:23:57.060 --> 00:23:58.290
  • YOU DO IT, BUT ALYSSA, THERE'S YOUR
  • 00:23:59.010 --> 00:24:00.290
  • CAMERA BACK OVER THAT WAY.
  • 00:24:01.010 --> 00:24:02.140
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:04.150
  • - AND I WANT YOU TO INTRODUCE THE VIDEO.
  • 00:24:04.170 --> 00:24:06.000
  • - WHICH ONE IS IT?
  • 00:24:06.020 --> 00:24:07.120
  • - IT'S DARKNESS IS LOSING, OKAY?
  • 00:24:07.140 --> 00:24:08.220
  • - AM I GOING TO GET LIKE GRADED ON IT?
  • 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.040
  • - YEAH, YES. THERE'S A TEST LATER, YEAH.
  • 00:24:10.060 --> 00:24:11.270
  • - THAT'S COOL.
  • 00:24:11.290 --> 00:24:13.230
  • - SO WATCH THIS NEXT VIDEO BY JEFFERSON BETHKE.
  • 00:24:13.250 --> 00:24:17.030
  • - YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE, THOUGH.
  • 00:24:17.050 --> 00:24:19.190
  • - "DARKNESS IS LOSING". - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:24:19.210 --> 00:24:21.030
  • - GOOD JOB.
  • 00:24:21.050 --> 00:24:22.270
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:24:22.290 --> 00:24:28.180
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:36.010
  • - YOU KNOW, THERE'S 768 MILLION PEOPLE WITHOUT CLEAN
  • 00:24:36.030 --> 00:24:38.220
  • WATER IN THE WORLD TODAY, 25 MILLION PEOPLE IN AFRICA
  • 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.200
  • LOSING THEIR LIVES TO AIDS, AND ONE IN SIX CHILDREN
  • 00:24:41.220 --> 00:24:44.060
  • GOING HUNGRY EVERY DAY.
  • 00:24:44.080 --> 00:24:47.180
  • WHEN I HEAR THOSE STATS, I THINK:
  • 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.120
  • IS ANYTHING WE'RE DOING ACTUALLY WORKING?
  • 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:51.220
  • AND I MEAN, IF IT IS WORKING,
  • 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.010
  • HOW CAN WE BE CERTAIN?
  • 00:24:53.030 --> 00:24:54.220
  • I MIGHT AS WELL NOT EVEN TRY TO HELP BECAUSE, WELL,
  • 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.040
  • I'M JUST ONE PERSON.
  • 00:24:56.060 --> 00:24:59.090
  • BUT SEE, THAT DESPAIR COULD BE SOLVED WITH A LITTLE DOSE
  • 00:24:59.110 --> 00:25:01.250
  • OF PERSPECTIVE, A STORY THAT TELLS THE TRUTH AND NOT JUST
  • 00:25:01.270 --> 00:25:04.180
  • THE WRECKAGE, BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS: ACCORDING TO
  • 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.250
  • STATS, DARKNESS IS LOSING.
  • 00:25:06.270 --> 00:25:10.080
  • I REPEAT: DARKNESS IS LOSING.
  • 00:25:10.100 --> 00:25:14.050
  • OKAY, YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME.
  • 00:25:14.070 --> 00:25:15.260
  • DID YOU KNOW SINCE 2000 THERE ARE EIGHT MILLION MORE
  • 00:25:15.280 --> 00:25:18.210
  • AIDS PATIENTS GETTING ANTIVIRAL DRUGS, EVERY YEAR
  • 00:25:18.230 --> 00:25:20.210
  • MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF MILLION LESS CHILDREN GRAVES
  • 00:25:20.230 --> 00:25:23.100
  • ARE BEING DUG? LET THAT SINK IN.
  • 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:25.000
  • THAT'S 7.256 MORE CHILDREN THAT ARE LIVING EVERY DAY.
  • 00:25:25.020 --> 00:25:29.140
  • SEE, PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.
  • 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.020
  • BECAUSE JUSTICE, IT ISN'T A GAVEL AND A BLACK ROBE.
  • 00:25:33.040 --> 00:25:36.030
  • IT'S SETTING THE WORLD TO RIGHT.
  • 00:25:36.050 --> 00:25:38.020
  • IT'S FIXING WHAT'S BROKEN. IT'S CRUSHING STRIFE.
  • 00:25:38.040 --> 00:25:41.050
  • IT'S RESTORING GENUINE HUMANNESS AND BEING AN
  • 00:25:41.070 --> 00:25:43.100
  • AMBASSADOR OF LIGHT.
  • 00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:45.080
  • BECAUSE CHURCH, GOD WAS WILLING TO DIE TO SET THIS
  • 00:25:45.100 --> 00:25:48.020
  • WORLD RIGHT, SO LET THAT BE OUR CRY AND WHY
  • 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:49.220
  • WE GIVE OUR LIFE.
  • 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.270
  • BUT FIRST, JUSTICE ALSO ISN'T A LOT OF THINGS.
  • 00:25:51.290 --> 00:25:56.120
  • JUSTICE ISN'T DOING GOOD THINGS SIMPLY BECAUSE
  • 00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:58.100
  • THEY BENEFIT YOU.
  • 00:25:58.120 --> 00:26:00.030
  • IT'S NOT USING GOOD CAUSES TO BUILD YOUR PLATFORM, TOO.
  • 00:26:00.050 --> 00:26:02.120
  • IN FACT IT'S NOT SEXY-IT'S MESSY, AND IT'S NOT
  • 00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:04.140
  • ARBITRARY KINDNESS BUT STANDING FIRM
  • 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:06.180
  • FOR WHAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.160
  • I MEAN, WHO CARES ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SING ABOUT
  • 00:26:08.180 --> 00:26:10.090
  • JUSTICE AT OUR SHOWS?
  • 00:26:10.110 --> 00:26:12.040
  • HERE'S THE REAL QUESTION: WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE
  • 00:26:12.060 --> 00:26:13.240
  • HAD A NON-CHRISTIAN IN OUR HOME?
  • 00:26:13.260 --> 00:26:15.250
  • SO, REAL QUICK, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT JUSTICE IS.
  • 00:26:15.270 --> 00:26:19.280
  • JUSTICE IS THROWING THE LASSO AROUND HEAVEN AND
  • 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.090
  • PULLING IT DOWN TO EARTH.
  • 00:26:22.110 --> 00:26:24.090
  • IT'S LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOR NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT HURTS.
  • 00:26:24.110 --> 00:26:26.110
  • IT'S WHERE WE GOT SIT-INS, WOMEN SAYING, "I DON'T
  • 00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:28.190
  • BELONG IN THE KITCHEN," PUSHBACK OF HYPOCRITICAL
  • 00:26:28.210 --> 00:26:30.150
  • RELIGION, AND CHRISTIANS SAYING, "WE WILL DIE FOR
  • 00:26:30.170 --> 00:26:32.190
  • THESE CAUSES IF THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL LISTEN."
  • 00:26:32.210 --> 00:26:35.060
  • SEE, JUSTICE IS THE CHURCH'S MISSION.
  • 00:26:35.080 --> 00:26:38.220
  • IT'S LOOKING AT THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS AND SAYING,
  • 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.190
  • "YOU'RE RIDING A SINKING SHIP BECAUSE OUR
  • 00:26:40.210 --> 00:26:43.070
  • KING IS RISEN.
  • 00:26:43.090 --> 00:26:45.190
  • SEE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS POEM IS TO BE ENCOURAGED
  • 00:26:45.210 --> 00:26:47.200
  • THAT DARKNESS IS LOSING. JESUS IS MOVING.
  • 00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:50.170
  • THANKS TO YOU ALL AND THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING,
  • 00:26:50.190 --> 00:26:53.040
  • LIVES ARE BEING CHANGED.
  • 00:26:53.060 --> 00:26:55.210
  • PEOPLE ARE GETTING CLEAN WATER, PEACE IS BEING
  • 00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:59.020
  • RESTORED, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING CURED.
  • 00:26:59.040 --> 00:27:03.040
  • SO MY PLEA IS, DON'T GIVE UP. DON'T LET UP.
  • 00:27:03.060 --> 00:27:06.150
  • LET'S STOP THINKING WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ENOUGH BECAUSE
  • 00:27:06.170 --> 00:27:09.020
  • NEW CREATION IS HERE, YES, AND THE SUN IS IN THE SKY,
  • 00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:11.080
  • BUT IT'S NOT OVER.
  • 00:27:11.100 --> 00:27:13.040
  • IN FACT IT'S JUST SUNRISE, BECAUSE THE VICTORY HAS BEEN
  • 00:27:13.060 --> 00:27:15.200
  • WON, BUT WE AREN'T DONE UNTIL WITH OUR OWN EYES WE
  • 00:27:15.220 --> 00:27:18.080
  • SEE REVELATION 21.
  • 00:27:18.100 --> 00:27:20.250
  • BECAUSE TRUE JUSTICE IS BENDING THE WORLD BACK TO
  • 00:27:20.270 --> 00:27:23.180
  • HOW IT WAS CREATED TO BE.
  • 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.190
  • SEE, WE WERE CREATED FOR THE SHALOM OF GENESIS 1
  • 00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:27.070
  • AND NOT GENESIS 3.
  • 00:27:27.090 --> 00:27:29.280
  • SO LET'S BE GOD'S AGENT OF RECONCILIATION THAT EVERYONE
  • 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.010
  • SEES, AND LET US NEVER FORGET THE CHURCH HAS PLAN A
  • 00:27:32.030 --> 00:27:35.020
  • AND THERE IS NO PLAN B.
  • 00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:37.110
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:51.010
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:27:51.010 --> 00:28:03.150
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:28:03.150 --> 00:28:10.280
  • - IT IS LATE AFTERNOON HERE IN MAUI, HAWAII, THE PRAISE
  • 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:14.150
  • THE LORD PROGRAM.
  • 00:28:14.170 --> 00:28:16.080
  • WE'RE REALLY DISCUSSING TODAY NEW MEDIA,
  • 00:28:16.100 --> 00:28:19.100
  • NEW WAYS OF EVANGELISM.
  • 00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:21.160
  • YOU KNOW, MY DAD WAS AN OLD PIONEER, BUT HE STARTED
  • 00:28:21.180 --> 00:28:27.130
  • FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE RADIO THINGS BACK WHEN
  • 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:31.190
  • SHORT-WAVE RADIO WAS BRAND NEW, HAM
  • 00:28:31.210 --> 00:28:33.280
  • RADIO, SHORT-WAVE RADIO.
  • 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.220
  • AND MY DAD ACCIDENTALLY LIT STUFF ON FIRE AND PUT
  • 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:39.020
  • ANTENNAS UP ON THE WATER TOWERS.
  • 00:28:39.040 --> 00:28:42.020
  • - [SINGING] THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
  • 00:28:42.040 --> 00:28:44.080
  • - SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI WATER TOWER BECAME HIS ANTENNA.
  • 00:28:44.100 --> 00:28:46.120
  • - THAT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:28:46.140 --> 00:28:48.090
  • - AND SO BOTH OF MY PARENTS ARE IN HEAVEN NOW,
  • 00:28:48.110 --> 00:28:50.290
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:28:51.010 --> 00:28:53.080
  • THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S NEW WAYS
  • 00:28:53.100 --> 00:28:55.200
  • OF PREACHING THE GOSPEL, AND TBN, 45 YEARS AGO, WAS NEW.
  • 00:28:55.220 --> 00:29:00.180
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION WAS NEW WAY BEFORE YOU
  • 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.080
  • GUYS WERE BORN.
  • 00:29:03.100 --> 00:29:04.230
  • AND SO THE IDEA THAT IT'S PROGRESSING, AND THE
  • 00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:09.090
  • INTERNET, FOR OLDER FOLKS, ALL IT REALLY IS IS A GLOBAL
  • 00:29:09.110 --> 00:29:13.080
  • CONNECTED CABLE SYSTEM.
  • 00:29:13.100 --> 00:29:15.160
  • IT'S STILL WIRE AND TRANSMITTERS AND ALL
  • 00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:17.240
  • OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
  • 00:29:17.260 --> 00:29:19.090
  • IT'S JUST BASICALLY A PATHWAY TO THE WORLD
  • 00:29:19.110 --> 00:29:22.040
  • AND SOME -- WHAT IS IT?
  • 00:29:22.060 --> 00:29:25.100
  • TWO BILLION COMPUTERS ARE HOOKED UP NOW.
  • 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:26.230
  • - IT'S CRAZY.
  • 00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:29.010
  • - THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT EVEN HIGHER NOW.
  • 00:29:29.030 --> 00:29:30.260
  • BUT BASICALLY, JEFFERSON BETHKE AND HIS WIFE ALYSSA
  • 00:29:30.280 --> 00:29:33.090
  • HAVE JUMPED INTO THAT AND BECOME ONE OF THE
  • 00:29:33.110 --> 00:29:37.000
  • MOST-WATCHED YOUNG -- LOOK, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE EVEN
  • 00:29:37.020 --> 00:29:40.250
  • CLOSE TO THE NUMBERS, AND GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
  • 00:29:40.270 --> 00:29:46.050
  • WE'RE GETTING AND SHOOTING A TRADITIONAL TELEVISION SHOW.
  • 00:29:46.070 --> 00:29:49.100
  • - THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE EXCITED.
  • 00:29:49.120 --> 00:29:51.060
  • - SO WE'RE GOING INTO THE BIG LEAGUES. WE'RE IN FOR THIS.
  • 00:29:51.080 --> 00:29:52.290
  • - OLD SCHOOL. THE BIBLE IS MESSY.
  • 00:29:53.010 --> 00:29:57.270
  • EXPLAIN THAT CONTENT FROM ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS.
  • 00:29:57.290 --> 00:30:01.190
  • - TOTALLY. SO THAT WAS A FUN VIDEO WE SHOT.
  • 00:30:01.210 --> 00:30:03.210
  • MARK AND ROMA, YOU GUYS KNOW THEM.
  • 00:30:03.230 --> 00:30:05.110
  • WE GOT TO SHOOT THAT ONSET AT THEIR BIBLE SET IN
  • 00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:07.190
  • MOROCCO, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE
  • 00:30:07.210 --> 00:30:10.070
  • SO PASSIONATE ABOUT ON OUR CHANNEL.
  • 00:30:10.090 --> 00:30:12.090
  • I ACTUALLY JUST DID -- THIS WAS FOR ANOTHER PROJECT, BUT
  • 00:30:12.110 --> 00:30:14.040
  • WE JUST PUT OUT A GOOGLE SURVEY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO
  • 00:30:14.060 --> 00:30:16.080
  • TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON A FEEDBACK LOOP OF OURS STUFF
  • 00:30:16.100 --> 00:30:18.110
  • AND WHAT'S HELPFUL AND WHAT'S NOT HELPFUL, AND ONE
  • 00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:20.080
  • OF THE THINGS WE ASKED, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I
  • 00:30:20.100 --> 00:30:22.290
  • ASKED IN THE SURVEY WAS, "WHAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:30:23.010 --> 00:30:26.180
  • YOU LIKE MOST ABOUT US OR FEEL MOST HELPFUL ABOUT WHAT
  • 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.090
  • ME AND ALYSSA DO?"
  • 00:30:28.110 --> 00:30:29.280
  • AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF FEEDBACK WAS,
  • 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.120
  • "YOU'RE RELATABLE.
  • 00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:33.020
  • YOU'RE HONEST, YOU'RE VULNERABLE. YOU'RE TRANSPARENT."
  • 00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:34.250
  • AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING TO US
  • 00:30:34.270 --> 00:30:37.080
  • BECAUSE WE HOLD THAT IN SUCH HIGH REGARD, AND I THINK
  • 00:30:37.100 --> 00:30:39.270
  • THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THIS VIDEO AND THAT THAT
  • 00:30:39.290 --> 00:30:41.250
  • IS THE FACT THAT THE BIBLE IS VULNERABLE, HONEST,
  • 00:30:41.270 --> 00:30:44.080
  • TRANSPARENT, AND MESSY, RIGHT?
  • 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:46.070
  • IF THE BIBLE WAS A MOVIE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE RATED 'R'
  • 00:30:46.090 --> 00:30:50.010
  • ALMOST FOR SURE, RIGHT?
  • 00:30:50.030 --> 00:30:52.120
  • JUST BECAUSE THERE'S MURDER AND INCEST AND ADULTERY AND
  • 00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:56.250
  • CRUCIFIXION AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
  • 00:30:56.270 --> 00:30:59.160
  • I THINK THE BEST THING I HEARD IS A PASTOR SAY, YOU
  • 00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:01.150
  • KNOW, THE BIBLE'S DESCRIPTIVE, BUT IT DOESN'T
  • 00:31:01.170 --> 00:31:04.080
  • MEAN IT'S PRESCRIPTIVE; MEANING IT'S TELLING THE
  • 00:31:04.100 --> 00:31:06.130
  • DRAMA OF HUMAN HISTORY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS
  • 00:31:06.150 --> 00:31:08.090
  • THING'S OKAY, OR THIS THING'S OKAY.
  • 00:31:08.110 --> 00:31:10.140
  • IT JUST MEANS, MAN, HOW GOOD IS GOD THAT IN THE MESS,
  • 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.150
  • THAT IN THE FRAILTY, IN THE PAIN, IN THE GRIEF, HE STILL
  • 00:31:14.170 --> 00:31:17.180
  • SHOWS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND STILL HEALS AND
  • 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.190
  • STILL REDEEMS AND STILL BRINGS NEW LIFE AND
  • 00:31:19.210 --> 00:31:21.280
  • RESURRECTION IN THE DEATH AND AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS.
  • 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.090
  • SO THAT'S WHAT THIS VIDEO IS TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT THE
  • 00:31:25.110 --> 00:31:28.000
  • BIBLE IS MESSY, AND THAT'S ENCOURAGING
  • 00:31:28.020 --> 00:31:29.270
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE BE ALONE.
  • 00:31:29.290 --> 00:31:32.070
  • I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE'VE BEEN RAISED IN SUNDAY SCHOOL
  • 00:31:32.090 --> 00:31:35.180
  • FORMATS WHERE OH, MY GOODNESS, DAVID AND MOSES
  • 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.230
  • AND ABRAHAM ARE JUST THESE MT. RUSHMORE.
  • 00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:38.280
  • - HEROES.
  • 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.100
  • - YEAH, THESE MT. RUSHMORES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 00:31:40.120 --> 00:31:41.250
  • - LIKE BE A DAVID, BE AN ABRAHAM.
  • 00:31:41.270 --> 00:31:43.100
  • - EXACTLY, OR BE A MOSES, WHEN IN REALITY, I DON'T
  • 00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:45.030
  • REALLY WANT TO BE LIKE MOSES BECAUSE HE GOT LEFT OUT OF
  • 00:31:45.050 --> 00:31:47.090
  • THE PROMISED LAND, AND HE MADE A REALLY BAD DECISION
  • 00:31:47.110 --> 00:31:48.250
  • THAT MADE THEM WANDER FOR A LONG TIME, RIGHT?
  • 00:31:48.270 --> 00:31:51.170
  • AND I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE ABRAHAM BECAUSE HE
  • 00:31:51.190 --> 00:31:53.210
  • LIED ABOUT HIS WIFE.
  • 00:31:53.230 --> 00:31:55.290
  • AND DAVID, ADULTERY AND MURDER.
  • 00:31:56.010 --> 00:31:57.100
  • NOW, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL AMAZING PARTS
  • 00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:59.090
  • ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD FAITH IN JESUS AND FAITH IN
  • 00:31:59.110 --> 00:32:01.220
  • A YAHWEH AS THEIR CREATOR.
  • 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.160
  • BUT ALL OF THAT TO SAY IS I THINK THE BIBLE IS ONE BIG
  • 00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:05.170
  • STORY POINTING TO JESUS, AND SO YOU DON'T NEED TO FEEL
  • 00:32:05.190 --> 00:32:08.120
  • BAD ABOUT BEING MESSY BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY
  • 00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:10.150
  • PREREQUISITE TO BEING A CHRISTIAN IS SAYING, I'M
  • 00:32:10.170 --> 00:32:12.080
  • MESSY, I NEED HELP.
  • 00:32:12.100 --> 00:32:13.280
  • - AND NOTHING NEW IS UNDER THE SUN,
  • 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:15.140
  • OR WHATEVER THAT SAYING IS.
  • 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.080
  • SO JUST LIKE, THEIR STRUGGLES, WELL, WE HAVE
  • 00:32:17.100 --> 00:32:19.070
  • STRUGGLES, AND GOD SEES IT AND KNOWS IT.
  • 00:32:19.090 --> 00:32:21.250
  • - AND YOU'RE NOT ALONE.
  • 00:32:21.270 --> 00:32:23.100
  • - AND YOU'RE NOT ALONE.
  • 00:32:23.120 --> 00:32:25.050
  • SO I THINK IT JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH GRACE THERE IS AND HOW
  • 00:32:25.070 --> 00:32:27.000
  • BEAUTIFUL THE LORD IS.
  • 00:32:27.020 --> 00:32:28.290
  • - SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU GUYS ARE LIKE IN YOUR 20s RIGHT?
  • 00:32:29.010 --> 00:32:30.190
  • YOU'RE AT LEAST OF AGE, RIGHT, ALYSSA?
  • 00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:31.250
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:32:31.270 --> 00:32:32.290
  • - I'M ALMOST 30.
  • 00:32:33.010 --> 00:32:34.090
  • - SHE'S OLDER. I MARRIED A COUGAR. SHE'S 29, I'M 27.
  • 00:32:34.110 --> 00:32:35.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:35.190 --> 00:32:36.250
  • - I LOVE IT.
  • 00:32:36.270 --> 00:32:38.180
  • - SO SHE'S GOT TWO YEARS ON ME.
  • 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.040
  • - "THE BIBLE IS MESSY", JEFFERSON BETHKE. WATCH THIS.
  • 00:32:40.060 --> 00:32:43.080
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:32:43.100 --> 00:32:50.020
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:32:50.020 --> 00:32:57.160
  • - WE'RE HERE ON THE SET OF A.D.,
  • 00:32:57.180 --> 00:32:59.100
  • AND I'VE BEEN STRUCK WITH SOMETHING SINCE WATCHING
  • 00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:00.210
  • FILMING THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
  • 00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:02.050
  • SOMETIMES I THINK IN OUR SUNDAY SCHOOL DEPICTIONS OF
  • 00:33:02.070 --> 00:33:03.290
  • THE BIBLE, WE KIND OF GLOSS OVER THE GRITTY PARTS, WE
  • 00:33:04.010 --> 00:33:06.150
  • SKIP THE MESSY PARTS AND WE OVERALL SANITIZE THE BIBLE
  • 00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:09.070
  • TO THE POINT OF DISCONNECTION.
  • 00:33:09.090 --> 00:33:11.100
  • BUT SEEING THE BOOK OF ACTS, RETOLD AND BROUGHT TO LIFE
  • 00:33:11.120 --> 00:33:14.270
  • ON A SCREEN AND VISUALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, I'M
  • 00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:17.030
  • STRUCK WITH JUST HOW MESSY THE SCRIPTURES TRULY ARE.
  • 00:33:17.050 --> 00:33:19.270
  • I MEAN THERE IS OPPRESSION; THERE IS SCANDAL; POLITICAL
  • 00:33:19.290 --> 00:33:22.190
  • TENSION, BEATINGS, ADULTERY, MURDER AND SO ON.
  • 00:33:22.210 --> 00:33:24.160
  • I MEAN IF WE'RE HONEST AND THE BIBLE WAS A MOVIE, IT
  • 00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:27.020
  • PROBABLY BE RATED 'R', NOT FOR SHOCK, BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE
  • 00:33:27.040 --> 00:33:29.290
  • IT'S GRITTY AT ITS CORE.
  • 00:33:30.010 --> 00:33:32.160
  • THE PROBLEM THOUGH WITH GLOSSING OVER THE SCRIPTURES
  • 00:33:32.180 --> 00:33:34.230
  • HARD PARTS IS; WE CAN NEVER RELATE.
  • 00:33:34.250 --> 00:33:36.190
  • WE CREATE THE PSEUDO-MORAL CHASM THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR
  • 00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:39.060
  • US TO CROSS OVER INTO.
  • 00:33:39.080 --> 00:33:41.020
  • WE'RE PAINT CERTAIN CHARACTERS AS HEROES AND WE
  • 00:33:41.040 --> 00:33:43.090
  • VILLAINIZE OTHERS WITH NO ENTRY POINT FOR
  • 00:33:43.110 --> 00:33:44.240
  • US INTO THE STORY.
  • 00:33:44.260 --> 00:33:46.220
  • WHEN YOU GIVE A QUICK GLANCE AT THE SCRIPTURES, THOUGH,
  • 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.000
  • YOU SEE A LOT OF THE SUPPOSED HEROES ACTUALLY
  • 00:33:49.020 --> 00:33:51.070
  • HAD MASSIVE DENTS IN THEIR ARMOUR.
  • 00:33:51.090 --> 00:33:53.040
  • I MEAN, ADAM WAS A COWARD, MOSES WAS A MURDERER, DAVID
  • 00:33:53.060 --> 00:33:55.090
  • WAS A MURDERER AND AN ADULTERER; AND SAUL BEFORE
  • 00:33:55.110 --> 00:33:57.120
  • HE BECAME PAUL, SYSTEMATICALLY HUNTED DOWN
  • 00:33:57.140 --> 00:33:59.280
  • JESUS FOLLOWERS BEFORE HE HIMSELF BECAME ONE.
  • 00:34:00.020 --> 00:34:02.140
  • WHAT IF, INSTEAD OF SANITIZING THE SCRIPTURES,
  • 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.040
  • WE LET THE NARRATIVE STAND IN ALL ITS MESSINESS.
  • 00:34:05.060 --> 00:34:07.120
  • WHAT IF, INSTEAD, WE FEEL THE FULL WEIGHT OF ITS GRIT, ITS
  • 00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:10.120
  • HURT, ITS PAIN AND ITS ACHE?
  • 00:34:10.140 --> 00:34:12.030
  • AND WHAT IF WE REALIZE IT'S NOT REALLY A STORY ABOUT A
  • 00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:14.010
  • BUNCH OF GOOD AND BAD PEOPLE, BUT ULTIMATELY, A
  • 00:34:14.030 --> 00:34:15.260
  • STORY ABOUT THE FRACTURING AND THE BROKENNESS OF
  • 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.130
  • THE HUMAN RACE?
  • 00:34:17.150 --> 00:34:19.120
  • IT'S ABOUT THE SPIRAL DOWNWARDS OF HUMAN
  • 00:34:19.140 --> 00:34:21.090
  • REBELLION, BUT THE RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS IN
  • 00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:24.060
  • THIS ONE MAN NAMED JESUS, THE TRULY HUMAN ONE, THE ONE
  • 00:34:24.080 --> 00:34:26.200
  • WHO LIVED THE LIFE WE CAN NEVER LIVE AND FULLY TOOK
  • 00:34:26.220 --> 00:34:28.290
  • EVIL ON HIMSELF AT THE CROSS.
  • 00:34:29.010 --> 00:34:32.220
  • AND WHAT IF WE SAW THAT THE VERY CORE EVENT OF OUR
  • 00:34:32.240 --> 00:34:35.030
  • FAITH, THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS JUST MIGHT
  • 00:34:35.050 --> 00:34:37.230
  • BE THE MESSIEST EVENT IN HUMAN HISTORY?
  • 00:34:37.250 --> 00:34:40.060
  • AND RATHER THAN RUN OR GLOSS OVER THAT FACT, INSTEAD,
  • 00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:42.280
  • WE LOOK UP AND WE FIX OUR EYES ON HIM.
  • 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.130
  • - TODAY, THIS IS ONE, IT HAS TO BE, ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:34:47.150 --> 00:34:52.080
  • BEAUTIFUL PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE EVER DONE.
  • 00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:56.080
  • IT IS LITERALLY A STUNNING AFTERNOON HERE IN MAUI.
  • 00:34:56.100 --> 00:35:00.150
  • JEFFERSON, WHY ARE WE IN MAUI?
  • 00:35:00.170 --> 00:35:03.120
  • WHY ARE LAURIE AND I IN MAUI?
  • 00:35:03.140 --> 00:35:05.050
  • - YEAH, WELL, YOU GUYS CAME NOT ONLY TO SHOOT THE PRAISE
  • 00:35:05.070 --> 00:35:06.280
  • THE LORD SEGMENTS WITH US, BUT WE'RE REALLY
  • 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.060
  • EXCITED BECAUSE WE GET TO SHOOT A SHOW TOGETHER,
  • 00:35:09.080 --> 00:35:11.150
  • AND THAT'S THE FUN PART THAT ME AND ALYSSA
  • 00:35:11.170 --> 00:35:12.290
  • ARE EXCITED ABOUT.
  • 00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:14.180
  • SO YEAH, THANKS FOR LETTING US DO THAT.
  • 00:35:14.200 --> 00:35:16.010
  • - SO WE'RE HERE BECAUSE YOU LIVE HERE?
  • 00:35:16.030 --> 00:35:17.110
  • - WELL, WE LIVE HERE, YEAH.
  • 00:35:17.130 --> 00:35:18.270
  • WE'RE SHOOTING THE SHOW HERE BECAUSE WE LIVE HERE.
  • 00:35:18.290 --> 00:35:20.170
  • - WE CAME TO YOU.
  • 00:35:20.190 --> 00:35:22.030
  • - YEAH, I FORGOT THE ONE LITTLE MISSING LINK, YES.
  • 00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:24.000
  • - SO YOU GUYS HAVE LIVED HERE NOW FOR A COUPLE YEARS,
  • 00:35:24.020 --> 00:35:26.100
  • AND THIS IS YOUR HOME.
  • 00:35:26.120 --> 00:35:28.200
  • AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU JUST TUNED IN AND ARE SAYING,
  • 00:35:28.220 --> 00:35:32.040
  • WAIT A SECOND, I RECOGNIZE THAT GUY.
  • 00:35:32.060 --> 00:35:33.270
  • WE PLAYED IT EARLIER.
  • 00:35:33.290 --> 00:35:36.210
  • IT WAS CALLED "WHY I HATE RELIGION", JEFFERSON
  • 00:35:36.230 --> 00:35:38.280
  • BETHKE'S YOU TUBE VIDEO.
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  • IT'S BEEN SEEN MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
  • 00:35:41.010 --> 00:35:44.120
  • TIMES, AND WHAT AN AMAZING THING THAT YOU COULD WRITE A
  • 00:35:44.140 --> 00:35:48.120
  • SPOKEN WORD PIECE, THAT IT WOULD BE VIRAL, MEANING
  • 00:35:48.140 --> 00:35:52.170
  • BEING SEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:54.050
  • - IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD HAVE CHANGED ABOUT IT?
  • 00:35:54.070 --> 00:35:56.170
  • - THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, TOTALLY.
  • 00:35:56.190 --> 00:35:58.030
  • - REALLY?
  • 00:35:58.050 --> 00:35:59.200
  • - YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THE HINDSIGHT 20/20 THINGS, AND
  • 00:35:59.220 --> 00:36:03.000
  • I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING FROM THE FACT THAT OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:36:03.020 --> 00:36:08.160
  • THE LORD MUST HAVE HAD SOMETHING WITH THAT VIDEO IN
  • 00:36:08.180 --> 00:36:11.100
  • THAT MOMENT, OBVIOUSLY.
  • 00:36:11.120 --> 00:36:13.020
  • - EVEN BECAUSE RIGHT BEFORE YOU FILMED IT, YOU CHANGED A
  • 00:36:13.040 --> 00:36:14.250
  • COUPLE OF LINES, DIDN'T YOU?
  • 00:36:14.270 --> 00:36:16.210
  • - YEAH, WE EVEN CHANGED A FEW THINGS BEFORE THAT.
  • 00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:18.120
  • I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS NOW, BUT YEAH.
  • 00:36:18.140 --> 00:36:20.010
  • THERE WERE JUST SOME LITTLE THINGS.
  • 00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:21.170
  • - AND YOU WERE LIKE, OH, GOOD.
  • 00:36:21.190 --> 00:36:23.000
  • I'M GLAD I DID THAT.
  • 00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:24.210
  • - THERE WERE JUST SOME LITTLE BREAD CRUMBS OF OH,
  • 00:36:24.230 --> 00:36:26.100
  • MAN THIS IS WHAT THE LORD I THINK SOMEHOW WANTED TO USE
  • 00:36:26.120 --> 00:36:29.120
  • IN THIS MOMENT, BUT OF COURSE, I THINK I COULD HAVE
  • 00:36:29.140 --> 00:36:31.150
  • MAYBE NUANCED THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER OR
  • 00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:33.020
  • EXPLAINED THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
  • 00:36:33.040 --> 00:36:34.170
  • I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I DON'T THINK I WOULD
  • 00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:36.050
  • HAVE CHANGED ANYTHING, BUT I WISH I COULD HAVE PUT A 30
  • 00:36:36.070 --> 00:36:37.220
  • SECOND DISCLAIMER THAT SAID, "WHEN I SAY THE WORD
  • 00:36:37.240 --> 00:36:39.250
  • 'RELIGION', THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. THIS IS WHAT I DON'T MEAN."
  • 00:36:39.270 --> 00:36:41.180
  • - OR THAT IT'S ART, SO YOU'RE GOING SAY THINGS DIFFERENT.
  • 00:36:41.200 --> 00:36:43.220
  • - A LITTLE MORE SHARPER, CREATIVE WAY.
  • 00:36:43.240 --> 00:36:45.090
  • - LIKE AN ESSAY OR THEOLOGY PAPER.
  • 00:36:45.110 --> 00:36:47.070
  • - YOU CAN'T REALLY ELABORATE IN FOUR MINUTES
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  • WHEN YOU'RE WRITING FOR THAT.
  • 00:36:48.200 --> 00:36:49.280
  • - YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE PUT? IF YOU PUT A
  • 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.150
  • DISCLAIMER ON IT, JUST SAY, "JUST GET OVER IT, OKAY?"
  • 00:36:51.170 --> 00:36:53.180
  • - THAT'S A GOOD DISCLAIMER.
  • 00:36:53.200 --> 00:36:55.130
  • - I'M AN ARTIST, AND IT'S MY THING.
  • 00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:56.280
  • IT'S CALLED "WHY I HATE RELIGION".
  • 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:58.190
  • - AND WHEN YOU DO TRY TO EVER EXPLAIN THINGS,
  • 00:36:58.210 --> 00:36:59.290
  • ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ART, IT KIND OF DAMPENS IT,
  • 00:37:00.030 --> 00:37:01.090
  • BUT TOTALLY, TOTALLY.
  • 00:37:01.110 --> 00:37:02.230
  • - SO I THINK THE DISCLAIMER IS "GET OVER IT."
  • 00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:04.070
  • - EXACTLY, I LIKE THAT. I'M USING THAT FOR MY VIDEO.
  • 00:37:04.090 --> 00:37:05.230
  • - PERFECT. I MAY NOT KNOW EVERYTHING, AND LOOK, MY
  • 00:37:05.250 --> 00:37:09.220
  • YOUNG GUYS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A 27 AND A 23,
  • 00:37:09.240 --> 00:37:12.150
  • AND LOOK, THEY'RE ON THEIR
  • 00:37:12.170 --> 00:37:14.180
  • PHONES A LOT, BUT NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE HUGE
  • 00:37:14.200 --> 00:37:17.030
  • SOCIAL MEDIA PEOPLE.
  • 00:37:17.050 --> 00:37:19.240
  • I MEAN, WHAT'S THAT ONE THING YOU'RE
  • 00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:22.020
  • CONSTANT -- REDDIT.
  • 00:37:22.040 --> 00:37:23.250
  • SO CODY SCROLLS THROUGH REDDIT.
  • 00:37:23.270 --> 00:37:25.270
  • - EVERYBODY HAS THEIR SITES.
  • 00:37:25.290 --> 00:37:28.060
  • - OKAY, SO RATTLE THOSE THINGS OFF THAT YOU KNOW
  • 00:37:28.080 --> 00:37:31.110
  • ABOUT, AND YOU'RE GETTING THE SPOKEN WORD.
  • 00:37:31.130 --> 00:37:34.180
  • YOU DID IT EARLIER, SO YOU'RE ON WHERE?
  • 00:37:34.200 --> 00:37:36.220
  • - REDDIT'S AWESOME, BUT I WOULD SAY THE MAIN ONES ARE
  • 00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:38.200
  • FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, SNAPCHAT, YOU TUBE.
  • 00:37:38.220 --> 00:37:40.170
  • THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD SAY FOR NOW, TWITTER.
  • 00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:42.260
  • THAT'S THE ONES WE'RE ALL ON.
  • 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.030
  • - DO YOU TWEET?
  • 00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:46.190
  • - I DO, AND ALYSSA TWEETS, TOO, BUT IT'S USUALLY ME
  • 00:37:46.210 --> 00:37:47.270
  • TWEETING FOR HER.
  • 00:37:47.290 --> 00:37:49.090
  • - I DO IT LIKE TEN TIMES A YEAR.
  • 00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:51.020
  • - SHE'S ONE OF THOSE 80 YEAR-OLDS STUCK IN A 29
  • 00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:52.180
  • YEAR-OLD BODY.
  • 00:37:52.200 --> 00:37:54.020
  • SO I MEAN, SHE LIKE, YEAH, I THINK SHE'S TWEETED LIKE
  • 00:37:54.040 --> 00:37:55.260
  • TWICE IN THE LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS ME PRESSING, ME DOING
  • 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.220
  • IT BECAUSE IF SHE DOES IT, YEAH.
  • 00:37:57.240 --> 00:37:59.220
  • I HAVE TO CHECK HER E-MAILS.
  • 00:37:59.240 --> 00:38:01.280
  • SHE'S IS SO DISCONNECTED FROM THE
  • 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:03.240
  • INTERNET, I LOVE IT.
  • 00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.070
  • - WHEN I WAS PREGNANT WITH OUR OLDEST DAUGHTER,
  • 00:38:05.090 --> 00:38:06.190
  • JEFF GOT A TWITTER ACCOUNT FOR HER.
  • 00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:08.220
  • - FOR KINSLEY.
  • 00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:10.030
  • - WHEN SHE WAS LIKE TWO MONTHS IN THE WOMB BECAUSE
  • 00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:11.220
  • HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE HAD A TWITTER ACCOUNT.
  • 00:38:11.240 --> 00:38:13.190
  • - YEAH, I MADE THIS FUNNY TWITTER ACCOUNT FOR KINSLEY
  • 00:38:13.210 --> 00:38:15.030
  • WHERE I WOULD TWEET FROM THE WOMB LIKE, "OH, IT'S
  • 00:38:15.050 --> 00:38:17.120
  • GETTING WARM IN HERE" AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
  • 00:38:17.140 --> 00:38:19.290
  • - "I'M GETTING READY TO GET OUT."
  • 00:38:20.010 --> 00:38:21.250
  • - YEAH, IT WAS HILARIOUS, BUT WE'RE VERY OPPOSITE
  • 00:38:21.270 --> 00:38:23.220
  • IN THAT, TOTALLY.
  • 00:38:23.240 --> 00:38:25.150
  • - WELL, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN A HOUSEHOLD WHERE MY
  • 00:38:25.170 --> 00:38:28.000
  • FATHER AND MOM BOTH WERE JUST SAYING WHATEVER COMES,
  • 00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:32.160
  • GET JESUS THERE SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY.
  • 00:38:32.180 --> 00:38:34.250
  • SO YOU'RE GOING TO STAY UP ON THAT.
  • 00:38:34.270 --> 00:38:37.050
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:38:37.070 --> 00:38:38.200
  • - YOU'RE GOING TO DO OLD SCHOOL TV SERIES.
  • 00:38:38.220 --> 00:38:40.260
  • IT'S GOING TO BE AIRING ON TBN.
  • 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.170
  • WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT
  • 00:38:42.190 --> 00:38:44.110
  • THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS ALL THE CAMERAS ARE HERE.
  • 00:38:44.130 --> 00:38:46.290
  • I MEAN, WE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, THERE'S
  • 00:38:47.010 --> 00:38:51.100
  • PROBABLY ANOTHER COUPLE OF THEM AROUND HERE.
  • 00:38:51.120 --> 00:38:52.260
  • - MORE THAN WE HAVE.
  • 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.120
  • - AND WE ARE BASICALLY SETTING UP, WE'RE DOING THE
  • 00:38:54.140 --> 00:38:57.210
  • PRAISE PROGRAM HERE FROM MAUI, BUT WHEN WE GET OUT OF
  • 00:38:57.230 --> 00:39:00.260
  • THE WAY, JEFF AND ALYSSA ARE GOING TO BE DOING
  • 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.050
  • A BRAND NEW SERIES.
  • 00:39:03.070 --> 00:39:05.010
  • IT'S GOING TO BE DEBUTING HERE ONLY RIGHT HERE ON TBN.
  • 00:39:05.030 --> 00:39:08.010
  • "GREATEST ARTIST OF ALL TIME".
  • 00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:10.180
  • WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU GOT THAT ONE GOING?
  • 00:39:10.200 --> 00:39:13.020
  • WE'RE TALKING WITH JEFFERSON BETHKE.
  • 00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:15.220
  • YOU'RE A VERY DEEP THINKER. YOUR CONTENT IS VERY RICH.
  • 00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:18.200
  • WE PURSUED YOU, AND WE'RE MAKING NEW STUFF WITH YOU,
  • 00:39:18.220 --> 00:39:22.080
  • AND SO TELL US WHERE YOU WERE AND HOW THAT CAME FROM?
  • 00:39:22.100 --> 00:39:26.030
  • - THIS ONE HAS CONTEXT FROM BOTH OF US BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:28.090
  • COLLEGE MINISTRY WE'RE A PART OF.
  • 00:39:28.110 --> 00:39:29.260
  • - YEAH, SO THE FIRST YEAR OF MARRIAGE, WE WERE LIVING
  • 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.120
  • IN TACOMA IN WASHINGTON, KIND OF LIKE A,
  • 00:39:31.140 --> 00:39:32.270
  • I DON'T KNOW, A CITY.
  • 00:39:32.290 --> 00:39:35.020
  • - YEAH, IT WAS A BIG CITY.
  • 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:36.160
  • - AND WE WERE DOING A COLLEGE MINISTRY, AND SO
  • 00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:39.140
  • ONCE A QUARTER, WE WOULD HAVE A BIG ART NIGHT THAT
  • 00:39:39.160 --> 00:39:42.020
  • WAS CALLED "LIGHTS OUT".
  • 00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:43.260
  • SO WE WOULD INVITE SPOKEN WORD ARTISTS.
  • 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.030
  • - PAINTERS. - AND PAINTERS.
  • 00:39:46.050 --> 00:39:48.040
  • - MUSICIANS.
  • 00:39:48.060 --> 00:39:49.270
  • - AND THEY WOULD, AND WE WOULD OPEN THE DOORS, AND WE
  • 00:39:49.290 --> 00:39:52.070
  • WOULD FILL UP THE ROOM OF ALL OF THESE LIKE YOUNG
  • 00:39:52.090 --> 00:39:54.200
  • ADULTS, AND IT WAS JUST SO COOL BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:39:54.220 --> 00:39:56.050
  • WERE JUST DOING ART.
  • 00:39:56.070 --> 00:39:57.210
  • IT WASN'T NECESSARILY -- AT THE ALL LOVED JESUS,
  • 00:39:57.230 --> 00:39:59.250
  • BUT IT WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE WHAT THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT.
  • 00:39:59.270 --> 00:40:02.130
  • SO WE KIND OF KNEW, OKAY, THIS IS HITTING A SPOT.
  • 00:40:02.150 --> 00:40:04.070
  • PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THIS.
  • 00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:05.260
  • SO THEN I THINK YOU GOT INSPIRED TO DO THIS POEM.
  • 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.280
  • - YEAH, SO WE WOULD HOST THIS NIGHT, AND I THINK THE
  • 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.080
  • MISSION THAT HAVE NIGHT WAS TO SHOW THAT HUMANS ARE
  • 00:40:11.100 --> 00:40:14.020
  • CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, AND HE'S THE CREATOR,
  • 00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:16.000
  • WHICH MEANS WE CAN BE CREATIVE, RIGHT?
  • 00:40:16.020 --> 00:40:18.080
  • LIKE WE ARE IN HIS IMAGE, AND WE ARE MEANT TO CREATE.
  • 00:40:18.100 --> 00:40:20.220
  • AND THE WAY I LIKE TO SAY IT IS --
  • 00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:23.020
  • - AND I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MUSIC AND
  • 00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:25.110
  • STUFF GOING ON, BUT CHRISTIANS AREN'T REALLY IN
  • 00:40:25.130 --> 00:40:27.060
  • THAT CIRCLE, SO LET'S GET INTO IT.
  • 00:40:27.080 --> 00:40:29.090
  • - YEAH, I THINK SOMETIMES WE BUY THE LIE THAT FOR IT
  • 00:40:29.110 --> 00:40:31.200
  • TO BE CHRISTIAN MUSIC, IT NEEDS TO SAY, JESUS, JESUS,
  • 00:40:31.220 --> 00:40:34.140
  • JESUS, JESUS, JESUS, RATHER THAN FOR IT TO BE CHRISTIAN
  • 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:36.280
  • MUSIC, IT NEEDS TO BE TRUTHFUL BECAUSE
  • 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.250
  • JESUS IS TRUTH.
  • 00:40:38.270 --> 00:40:40.230
  • AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT CAME FROM.
  • 00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:42.180
  • SO WE WERE HOSTING THOSE NIGHTS, AND IT WAS GOING
  • 00:40:42.200 --> 00:40:44.110
  • GREAT, SO I BASICALLY WROTE A SPOKEN WORD TO KIND OF
  • 00:40:44.130 --> 00:40:46.060
  • REPRESENT OUR HEART BEHIND NOT ONLY THAT NIGHT BUT WITH
  • 00:40:46.080 --> 00:40:48.050
  • WE BELIEVE AND THE FACT THAT GOD IS THE GREATEST ARTIST
  • 00:40:48.070 --> 00:40:50.020
  • OF ALL TIME, AND YOU'RE DOING CREATIVITY POORLY AND
  • 00:40:50.040 --> 00:40:54.140
  • WRONGLY WHEN YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE
  • 00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:58.010
  • THAT CAPACITY AND GIFT BECAUSE YOU'RE CREATED IN
  • 00:40:58.030 --> 00:41:00.160
  • THE CREATOR'S IMAGE, AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:41:00.180 --> 00:41:02.070
  • IT'S REALLY ABOUT.
  • 00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:04.180
  • - SET AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:41:04.200 --> 00:41:06.080
  • BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH.
  • 00:41:06.100 --> 00:41:07.240
  • - WHAT BETTER PLACE TO SHOW HIS CREATIVITY.
  • 00:41:07.260 --> 00:41:09.250
  • - "GREATEST ARTIST OF ALL TIME", JEFFERSON BETHKE. WATCH THIS.
  • 00:41:09.270 --> 00:41:13.180
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:23.030
  • - A GUY CAME UP TO ME THE OTHER NIGHT, RIGHT, AND HE
  • 00:41:23.050 --> 00:41:25.010
  • WAS LIKE,"WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE ARTIST?"
  • 00:41:25.030 --> 00:41:27.190
  • AND LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY ASK YOU A
  • 00:41:27.210 --> 00:41:29.080
  • QUESTION, HE DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT MY ANSWER, AND
  • 00:41:29.100 --> 00:41:31.090
  • PROCEEDED TO TELL ME WHAT HE THOUGHT THE TRUE ANSWER WAS.
  • 00:41:31.110 --> 00:41:33.280
  • AND HE CONTINUED ABOUT A STRUGGLE TO RECOGNIZE
  • 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.160
  • WHO HE SAID WAS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
  • 00:41:36.180 --> 00:41:40.050
  • HE SAID, "I MEAN, IS IT SHAKESPEARE, IS IT FROST,
  • 00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:42.200
  • PICASSO, MICHELANGELO?
  • 00:41:42.220 --> 00:41:44.220
  • IS IT THE BEATLES, REMBRANDT,
  • 00:41:44.240 --> 00:41:46.080
  • MICHAEL JACKSON, BEETHOVEN?"
  • 00:41:46.100 --> 00:41:48.030
  • AND HE WENT ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT WHO HE THOUGHT WAS
  • 00:41:48.050 --> 00:41:49.230
  • THE GREATEST, NOT RECOGNIZING EVEN HIS
  • 00:41:49.250 --> 00:41:51.240
  • INFRASTRUCTURE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WAS
  • 00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:53.120
  • MISLED AND OUTDATED.
  • 00:41:53.140 --> 00:41:55.170
  • SO, FINALLY, I KINDLY SMILED AND SAID, "OKAY, SIR, YOU
  • 00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:57.160
  • ASKED ME WHO IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
  • 00:41:57.180 --> 00:41:59.220
  • NOW, YOU TRIED TO SHARE YOURS, SO LET ME SHARE MINE."
  • 00:41:59.240 --> 00:42:02.180
  • BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT WHO IS THE GREATEST,
  • 00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:05.130
  • 'CAUSE ALL THOSE OTHER ARTISTS YOU MENTIONED ...
  • 00:42:05.150 --> 00:42:07.070
  • YEAH, THE GREATEST MADE THEM.
  • 00:42:07.090 --> 00:42:09.150
  • AND SEE, THIS ARTIST, HE IS A BEAST, A LION,
  • 00:42:09.170 --> 00:42:12.040
  • THE NAME ABOVE NAMES.
  • 00:42:12.060 --> 00:42:13.250
  • YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT, BUT YOU ENCOUNTER
  • 00:42:13.270 --> 00:42:15.240
  • HIS ART EVERY DAY.
  • 00:42:15.260 --> 00:42:17.170
  • AND HE DESERVES ALL OF THE ACCLAIM; HE DESERVES ALL OF
  • 00:42:17.190 --> 00:42:19.290
  • THE FAME, BECAUSE ALL OTHER ARTISTS PASS AWAY,
  • 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:22.020
  • BUT HE REMAINS.
  • 00:42:22.040 --> 00:42:25.030
  • OH, BY THE WAY, HIS NAME IS GOD, YAHWEH,
  • 00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:28.030
  • CREATOR, YOUR MAKER.
  • 00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:29.280
  • HE'S INFINITELY CREATIVE, SIR. THERE IS NO ONE GREATER.
  • 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.290
  • AND I CAN TELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE STARTING TO GET
  • 00:42:33.010 --> 00:42:35.290
  • MAD AT ME, BUT DON'T BE JEALOUS JUST BECAUSE YOUR
  • 00:42:36.010 --> 00:42:37.190
  • FAVORITE ARTIST MIGHT BEND WORDS, AND MY FAVORITE
  • 00:42:37.210 --> 00:42:40.010
  • ARTIST BENDS GALAXIES.
  • 00:42:40.030 --> 00:42:41.270
  • SEE, IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND, HE HOLDS ALL THE SAND;
  • 00:42:41.290 --> 00:42:44.270
  • THE AUTHOR OF LIFE, WHEN HE WHISPERED "LET US MAKE MAN."
  • 00:42:44.290 --> 00:42:48.280
  • SEE, WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT YOU ARE GOD'S POETRY?
  • 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:54.130
  • YOU WERE CREATED BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WAS CREATIVE.
  • 00:42:54.150 --> 00:42:57.270
  • SEE, LONG AGO HE PICKED UP HIS ETERNAL PAINT BRUSH,
  • 00:42:57.290 --> 00:43:00.120
  • DIPPED IN HIS GLORY, PLACED US IN HIS STORY, AND SAID,
  • 00:43:00.140 --> 00:43:02.170
  • "THEY WILL LIVE FOR ME."
  • 00:43:02.190 --> 00:43:05.040
  • AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS OUTLANDISH, BUT WE'RE NOT
  • 00:43:05.060 --> 00:43:07.030
  • THE PRODUCT OF RANDOM CHANCES.
  • 00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:09.000
  • IN FACT, WE ARE NOT EVEN THE VINE; WE'RE ACTUALLY
  • 00:43:09.020 --> 00:43:11.110
  • THE BRANCHES.
  • 00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:13.030
  • IN THE SAME WAY, WE ARE NOT THE ARTIST;
  • 00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:14.130
  • WE'RE ACTUALLY THE CANVAS.
  • 00:43:14.150 --> 00:43:16.270
  • BECAUSE IN AN INSTANT, GOD STARTED TO MAKE ART; SHAPED
  • 00:43:16.290 --> 00:43:19.260
  • YOU UNIQUELY AND BEAUTIFUL INDIVIDUAL FROM THE START.
  • 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.250
  • AND HE TOUCHED THE CANVAS OF FLESH AND SAID, "THIS ONE IS
  • 00:43:22.270 --> 00:43:24.250
  • BETTER THAN THE REST.
  • 00:43:24.270 --> 00:43:26.210
  • I'LL GIVE HIM SO MUCH OF MY IMAGE, SO EVEN WHEN THEY'RE
  • 00:43:26.230 --> 00:43:28.170
  • HOT OFF THE PRESS, YOU CAN STILL SEE THE STEAM
  • 00:43:28.190 --> 00:43:31.080
  • OF MY BREATH."
  • 00:43:31.100 --> 00:43:33.060
  • AND SO HE CRAFTED AND HE MADE EVERY ARM AND LEG,
  • 00:43:33.080 --> 00:43:35.090
  • LIGAMENTS, TENDONS, MUSCLES, BLOOD VESSELS, VEINS, ARTERIES.
  • 00:43:35.110 --> 00:43:40.000
  • HE SAID, "THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A PART OF ME."
  • 00:43:40.020 --> 00:43:42.100
  • AND ABOUT THAT TIME, THE GUY BUTTED BACK IN AND SAID,
  • 00:43:42.120 --> 00:43:44.140
  • "THAT SOUNDS GOOD AND ALL, BUT I'M WRETCHED AND FILTHY.
  • 00:43:44.160 --> 00:43:48.000
  • GOD WON'T USE ME, WILL HE?"
  • 00:43:48.020 --> 00:43:50.110
  • AND I SAID, "AH, THAT'S WHAT'S AWESOME ABOUT GOD.
  • 00:43:50.130 --> 00:43:52.120
  • NO MATTER WHAT WE'VE DONE, HE CAN STILL USE US.
  • 00:43:52.140 --> 00:43:55.270
  • EVEN THOUGH OTHER ARTISTS, ONCE THEY HAVE BROKEN
  • 00:43:55.290 --> 00:43:58.130
  • EQUIPMENT, THEY START TO MAKE EXCUSES,
  • 00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:00.170
  • GOD, INSTEAD, DOESN'T REFUSE US. NEITHER DOES HE ACCUSE US.
  • 00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:03.090
  • HE REDEEMS US IN JESUS, PROMISES NEVER TO LOSE US."
  • 00:44:03.110 --> 00:44:07.050
  • SO, STOP SAYING THAT YOU'RE DIRT. STOP SAYING
  • 00:44:07.070 --> 00:44:09.110
  • YOU'RE SCUM OF THE EARTH.
  • 00:44:09.130 --> 00:44:11.160
  • YOU OUGHT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:44:11.180 --> 00:44:13.040
  • SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK.
  • 00:44:13.060 --> 00:44:15.130
  • BECAUSE IF WE'VE TRUSTED IN JESUS, WE CAN STOP
  • 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:17.220
  • SAYING WE'RE FILTHY.
  • 00:44:17.240 --> 00:44:19.260
  • ALL THAT IS, IS JUST PRIDE CLOTHED AND FALSE HUMILITY.
  • 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:23.230
  • I MEAN, IF ONLY WE BELIEVED THAT WE'RE TRUTHFULLY
  • 00:44:23.250 --> 00:44:26.180
  • CREATED IN HIS LIKENESS, THEN WE'D STOP SAYING WE ARE
  • 00:44:26.200 --> 00:44:30.240
  • WRETCHED, FILTHY, SHAMEFUL, GUILTY, BUT INSTEAD KNOWING
  • 00:44:30.260 --> 00:44:33.040
  • IF WE TRUSTED JESUS, WE ARE RIGHTEOUS.
  • 00:44:33.060 --> 00:44:35.290
  • I MEAN, DON'T YOU SEE WE'RE DRAWN TO REPENTANCE
  • 00:44:36.010 --> 00:44:37.240
  • BECAUSE OF HIS KINDNESS?
  • 00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:39.260
  • SO HOW DARE YOU CALL YOURSELF WORTHLESS WHEN HE
  • 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.210
  • SAYS YOU'RE PRICELESS?
  • 00:44:41.230 --> 00:44:43.270
  • BUT SEE, THE BEST PART IS, SINCE GOD IS ULTIMATELY FOR
  • 00:44:43.290 --> 00:44:46.120
  • GOD, HE'LL GET GLORY OUT OF YOU, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR
  • 00:44:46.140 --> 00:44:49.100
  • NOT, BECAUSE EVEN TEMPLE RUINS POINT TO YOU AN
  • 00:44:49.120 --> 00:44:51.210
  • ARCHITECT EVEN IF THE TEMPLE IS SHOT.
  • 00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:54.160
  • AND ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT HE IS BEHIND IT ALL, SO WHY
  • 00:44:54.180 --> 00:44:58.030
  • DO WE INSIST ON GIVING HIM NO CREDIT AT ALL?
  • 00:44:58.050 --> 00:45:01.240
  • I MEAN, HE IS THE ONE THAT GAVE VAN GOGH THE
  • 00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:04.150
  • IMAGINATION THAT CHANGED THE FACE OF PAINTING.
  • 00:45:04.170 --> 00:45:06.270
  • TELL ME WHO ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MOZART BEING
  • 00:45:06.290 --> 00:45:08.280
  • ABLE TO COMPOSE AT AGE FIVE, WITHOUT FORMAL TRAINING.
  • 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.030
  • SEE, HE MADE THE FINGERS THAT BEETHOVEN USED TO MAKE
  • 00:45:11.050 --> 00:45:14.090
  • ART ON THE KEYS, FOR PETE'S SAKE, HE MADE STEVIE WONDER
  • 00:45:14.110 --> 00:45:16.260
  • ONE OF THE BEST MUSICIANS OF OUR TIME, AND
  • 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.250
  • HE COULDN'T EVEN SEE.
  • 00:45:18.270 --> 00:45:20.290
  • AND THAT'S WHY IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR LIVES ARE
  • 00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:23.160
  • BORROWED TIME, THIS POEM IS BORROWED LINES, BECAUSE THE
  • 00:45:23.180 --> 00:45:26.030
  • MOST RIDICULOUS STATEMENT WE COULD EVER SAY IS THAT THIS
  • 00:45:26.050 --> 00:45:28.100
  • POEM IS MINE, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SELF-SUSTAINING.
  • 00:45:28.120 --> 00:45:31.020
  • NO, WE'RE NOT SELF-CREATING.
  • 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:33.000
  • TECHNICALLY, NOTHING WE DO IS ORIGINAL, WE'RE JUST
  • 00:45:33.020 --> 00:45:34.200
  • IMITATING, AND THAT'S NOT A DISS, ALL I AM TRYING TO SAY
  • 00:45:34.220 --> 00:45:38.050
  • IS THIS, EVEN OUR OWN CREATIVITY IS NOTHING MORE
  • 00:45:38.070 --> 00:45:41.000
  • THAN AN OUTFLOW OF HIS.
  • 00:45:41.020 --> 00:45:43.270
  • AND SO, I'LL END WITH THIS.
  • 00:45:43.290 --> 00:45:46.050
  • YOU KNOW THAT QUOTE ABOUT GIVING CREDIT
  • 00:45:46.070 --> 00:45:47.260
  • WHERE CREDIT IS DUE?
  • 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.240
  • WELL, IF THAT'S TRUE, IT'S ABOUT TIME WE GIVE GOD HIS
  • 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:52.070
  • RIGHTFUL CREDIT TOO, 'CAUSE HE'S A GOD IN THE BUSINESS
  • 00:45:52.090 --> 00:45:54.060
  • IN MAKING ALL THINGS NEW AND HERE'S THE TRUTH: HE IS NOT
  • 00:45:54.080 --> 00:45:56.170
  • THROUGH WITH MAKING A MASTERPIECE OF YOU.
  • 00:45:56.190 --> 00:45:59.080
  • [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC]
  • 00:45:59.100 --> 00:46:08.280
  • PICK UP YOUR PEN, AND WRITE A SONG...
  • 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.130
  • LIFT UP YOUR VOICE, AND SING ALONG...
  • 00:46:12.150 --> 00:46:15.240
  • RAISE YOUR BOW, AND PLAY AN ANTHEM TO OUR KING...
  • 00:46:15.260 --> 00:46:22.060
  • BRING ALL YOUR PAINTINGS AND YOUR POEMS...
  • 00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:25.250
  • CAST THEM DOWN BEFORE THE THRONE...
  • 00:46:25.270 --> 00:46:28.280
  • YOU ARE THE MAKER'S HANDIWORK...
  • 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.020
  • THE LIVING MASTERPIECE...
  • 00:46:32.040 --> 00:46:35.160
  • - HERE WE ARE.
  • 00:46:37.240 --> 00:46:39.090
  • IT IS LATE AFTERNOON RIGHT HERE IN MAUI, HAWAII.
  • 00:46:39.110 --> 00:46:43.020
  • I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT BEFORE ON THE
  • 00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:44.270
  • PRAISE PROGRAM BEFORE.
  • 00:46:44.290 --> 00:46:46.130
  • THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS.
  • 00:46:46.150 --> 00:46:50.120
  • I AM INSPIRED BY THESE 20 YEAR OLDS THAT ARE BASICALLY
  • 00:46:50.140 --> 00:46:57.240
  • WRITING AND DIGGING IN VERY DEEP.
  • 00:46:57.260 --> 00:47:00.170
  • NOW, IF WE LOOKED OVER OUR SHOULDER -- BY THE WAY, OUR
  • 00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:04.190
  • VIEW IS WAY PRETTIER THAN YOUR VIEW.
  • 00:47:04.210 --> 00:47:06.290
  • I GET TO LOOK AT THE OCEAN.
  • 00:47:07.010 --> 00:47:09.050
  • - I KNOW. AM I SUPPOSED TO NOT AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:47:09.070 --> 00:47:10.270
  • YOU GUYS ARE IN FRONT OF ME?
  • 00:47:10.290 --> 00:47:12.280
  • - EXACTLY. SO I SUPPOSE THAT YOUR CONTENT THAT YOU
  • 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:17.290
  • WRITE ABOUT COMES FROM LIFE EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:47:18.010 --> 00:47:20.000
  • YOU'RE A NEW FATHER.
  • 00:47:20.020 --> 00:47:22.110
  • THAT'S GOT TO BE INSPIRATIONAL.
  • 00:47:22.130 --> 00:47:24.060
  • IF ALL OF THE SUDDEN, WE HEARD A SCREAM, AND YOU AND
  • 00:47:24.080 --> 00:47:27.260
  • I HAD TO RUN OUT INTO THE OCEAN AND SAVE SOMEBODY --
  • 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.040
  • ALTHOUGH YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT A VERY GOOD SWIMMER
  • 00:47:30.060 --> 00:47:32.130
  • SO YOU COULD WATCH ME SAVE SOMEBODY --
  • 00:47:32.150 --> 00:47:34.020
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:47:34.040 --> 00:47:35.230
  • - THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THEN START KIND OF
  • 00:47:35.250 --> 00:47:39.150
  • PERCOLATING, AND YOU START CREATING THIS CONTENT
  • 00:47:39.170 --> 00:47:43.180
  • FROM LIFE EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:47:43.200 --> 00:47:45.190
  • - YEAH, I THINK THE WAY WE LIKE TO PUT IT IS, OUR YOU
  • 00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:47.260
  • TUBE MINISTRY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, AND WRITING
  • 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.080
  • COMES OUT OF WHAT WE'RE LIVING.
  • 00:47:50.100 --> 00:47:51.280
  • SO IT WAS SPOKEN WORD BECAUSE I WAS A SINGLE GUY IN
  • 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:53.190
  • COLLEGE WHO WAS DOING SPOKEN WORD.
  • 00:47:53.210 --> 00:47:55.100
  • THEN IT WAS JUST --
  • 00:47:55.120 --> 00:47:56.290
  • - AND YOU DON'T SING.
  • 00:47:57.010 --> 00:47:58.150
  • - EXACTLY, I DON'T SING OR PLAY MUSIC OR ANYTHING LIKE
  • 00:47:58.170 --> 00:48:00.080
  • THAT, BUT THEN IT WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE DEVOTIONAL
  • 00:48:00.100 --> 00:48:01.270
  • VIDEOS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING.
  • 00:48:01.290 --> 00:48:03.080
  • THEN WE GOT MARRIED AND START THE HAVING KIDS, SO
  • 00:48:03.100 --> 00:48:04.230
  • NOW WE DO A LOT OF STUFF PARTNERED TOGETHER.
  • 00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:06.100
  • AND SHE HAS A LOT OF GOOD STUFF TO SAY ABOUT
  • 00:48:06.120 --> 00:48:08.030
  • THAT LIKE WITH WRITING.
  • 00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:09.170
  • HOW DO YOU SAY IT?
  • 00:48:09.190 --> 00:48:11.050
  • YOU CAN ONLY WRITE FROM WHAT YOU LIVE, RIGHT?
  • 00:48:11.070 --> 00:48:12.210
  • AND SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE TRY TO
  • 00:48:12.230 --> 00:48:14.280
  • REALLY -- I THINK IT WAS ANN VOSKAMP WHO SAID, "YOU HAVE
  • 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.100
  • TO LIVE A GREAT LIFE IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE ABOUT
  • 00:48:18.120 --> 00:48:20.160
  • A GREAT LIFE."
  • 00:48:20.180 --> 00:48:22.190
  • IF YOU'RE SPENDING ALL OF YOUR DAY WRITING, YOU'LL
  • 00:48:22.210 --> 00:48:24.100
  • HAVE NOTHING TO WRITE ABOUT.
  • 00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:25.210
  • - GOT IT.
  • 00:48:25.230 --> 00:48:27.010
  • - SO WE TRY TO TAKE FROM LIFE EXPERIENCES AND LIVE
  • 00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:28.150
  • HOW THE LORD WANTS US TO LIVE, AND STUFF
  • 00:48:28.170 --> 00:48:29.210
  • COMES FROM THERE.
  • 00:48:29.230 --> 00:48:31.070
  • - WE'RE KIND OF WINDING DOWN HERE.
  • 00:48:31.090 --> 00:48:32.230
  • JEFF AND ALYSSA, YOU LIVE RIGHT HERE IN MAUI.
  • 00:48:32.250 --> 00:48:34.280
  • - SHORT COMMUTE.
  • 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:36.240
  • - WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. WHAT A GREAT AFTERNOON.
  • 00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:41.020
  • AND THE CONTENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE PUT THIS
  • 00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:44.290
  • VIDEO LAST, AND WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE
  • 00:48:45.010 --> 00:48:53.140
  • SUBJECT OF GRACE.
  • 00:48:53.160 --> 00:48:56.000
  • I LOVE THE TITLE OF YOUR PIECE, WHICH IS
  • 00:48:56.020 --> 00:48:57.190
  • "THE SCANDAL OF GRACE".
  • 00:48:57.210 --> 00:48:59.140
  • SO WE WANT TO KIND OF GET YOUR TAKE.
  • 00:48:59.160 --> 00:49:03.170
  • WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? WHY THAT NAME?
  • 00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:08.030
  • AND WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
  • 00:49:08.050 --> 00:49:11.040
  • - YEAH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW TESTAMENT, IT'S
  • 00:49:11.060 --> 00:49:12.240
  • CLEAR THAT GRACE WAS SCANDALOUS, THAT JESUS IS
  • 00:49:12.260 --> 00:49:16.060
  • THE EMBODIMENT OF NOT ONLY TRUTH, BUT ALSO GRACE.
  • 00:49:16.080 --> 00:49:19.250
  • AND IT WAS CLEARLY A SCANDAL, MEANING PEOPLE WERE
  • 00:49:19.270 --> 00:49:23.160
  • SCANDALIZED BY IT. IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.
  • 00:49:23.180 --> 00:49:25.250
  • THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH IN
  • 00:49:25.270 --> 00:49:28.010
  • DISAGREEMENT WITH HIM BECAUSE OF THAT
  • 00:49:28.030 --> 00:49:30.020
  • BECAUSE IT'S VERY WILD.
  • 00:49:30.040 --> 00:49:33.110
  • THAT'S HOW I LIKE TO PUT IT SOME TIME.
  • 00:49:33.130 --> 00:49:35.080
  • GRACE IS SO FEROCIOUS IN ITS PURSUIT OF OTHER PEOPLE, AND
  • 00:49:35.100 --> 00:49:38.260
  • JESUS, WITH HIS GRACE, IS.
  • 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.070
  • AND THAT'S WHAT THIS VIDEO IS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT,
  • 00:49:41.090 --> 00:49:43.220
  • MAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY, OH, MAN, I CAN'T
  • 00:49:43.240 --> 00:49:46.140
  • BELIEVE THAT I'VE DONE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND DONE ALL
  • 00:49:46.160 --> 00:49:48.230
  • OF THIS AND THAT JESUS JUST FORGIVES ME.
  • 00:49:48.250 --> 00:49:51.240
  • YEAH, HE DOES. THAT'S THE SCANDAL.
  • 00:49:51.260 --> 00:49:53.160
  • THAT'S LIKE YOU AND I -- LIKE THEY CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
  • 00:49:53.180 --> 00:49:55.100
  • AND IT'S LIKE YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S SCANDALOUS, OR
  • 00:49:55.120 --> 00:49:57.060
  • IT'S NOT LOGICAL, OR IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GO THAT WAY,
  • 00:49:57.080 --> 00:49:59.280
  • BUT IT DOES BECAUSE THAT'S HIS NATURE.
  • 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.260
  • THAT'S WHO HE IS. THAT'S WHAT HE'S LIKE.
  • 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.140
  • AND I THINK THE COOL PART ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE IT
  • 00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:05.270
  • SHAKES YOU OUT OF YOUR PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS BECAUSE
  • 00:50:05.290 --> 00:50:07.250
  • IT IS SO LIFE-ALTERING AND WORLD-CHANGING.
  • 00:50:07.270 --> 00:50:11.050
  • YOU GO, OH, MAN, IF THIS IS TRULY WHAT GRACE IS LIKE, IF
  • 00:50:11.070 --> 00:50:14.050
  • IT'S THIS EARTH-SHATTERING, THEN I WANT NOTHING MORE
  • 00:50:14.070 --> 00:50:17.030
  • THAN TO GIVE MY LIFE BACK TO HIM IN RETURN AND WORSHIP
  • 00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:19.140
  • AND PRAISE, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS VIDEO IS ABOUT.
  • 00:50:19.160 --> 00:50:22.010
  • - JEFFERSON BETHKE'S "THE SCANDAL OF GRACE". WATCH THIS.
  • 00:50:22.030 --> 00:50:26.250
  • - YOU KNOW THERE'S THIS ANCIENT STORY WRITTEN
  • 00:50:26.270 --> 00:50:28.220
  • THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO THAT DECLARED HUMANS
  • 00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:30.250
  • WERE CREATED IN GOD'S VERY OWN IMAGE.
  • 00:50:30.270 --> 00:50:33.140
  • HUMANS WERE DECLARED TO BE THE DIVINE REFLECTORS OF
  • 00:50:33.160 --> 00:50:36.020
  • THIS GOOD AND GRACIOUS CREATOR.
  • 00:50:36.040 --> 00:50:38.160
  • EVERY ONE OF US COMPLETELY UNIQUE, INDIVIDUAL AND
  • 00:50:38.180 --> 00:50:40.230
  • SPECIAL IN OUR VERY OWN WAY, ALL PIECES OF A GREATER
  • 00:50:40.250 --> 00:50:44.200
  • STORY POINTING TO HIM.
  • 00:50:44.220 --> 00:50:46.290
  • THEN THIS MOMENT CAME THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING.
  • 00:50:47.010 --> 00:50:50.130
  • WE WANTED HIS THRONE.
  • 00:50:50.150 --> 00:50:52.080
  • WE WANTED TO BE GOD, AND WE BEGAN TO LIVE LIKE
  • 00:50:52.100 --> 00:50:54.220
  • WE DIDN'T NEED HIM.
  • 00:50:54.240 --> 00:50:56.250
  • IN AN INSTANT, EVERYTHING BROKE.
  • 00:50:56.270 --> 00:50:58.210
  • EVERYTHING SHATTERED.
  • 00:50:58.230 --> 00:51:00.170
  • THE VERY COSMOS FRACTURED AND SENT RIPPLES THROUGH THE
  • 00:51:00.190 --> 00:51:02.230
  • CORRIDORS OF HISTORY.
  • 00:51:02.250 --> 00:51:04.130
  • WE ARE NO LONGER THE ONE HUMAN RACE REFLECTING
  • 00:51:04.150 --> 00:51:06.240
  • THE GOODNESS OF OUR CREATOR. WE'RE NOW ENEMIES.
  • 00:51:06.260 --> 00:51:09.110
  • WE USE, AND WE ABUSE EACH OTHER AS COMMODITIES,
  • 00:51:09.130 --> 00:51:11.280
  • NOT NEIGHBORS; THINGS TO BE USED, NOT LOVED.
  • 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.060
  • THERE'S STRIFE, ENMITY, DEHUMANIZATION.
  • 00:51:15.080 --> 00:51:18.170
  • BUT IN THE MIDST OF THAT, THIS RABBI NAMED
  • 00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:22.280
  • JESUS COMES ALONG.
  • 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.270
  • HE STARTS TELLING PEOPLE THAT IF THEY'VE SEEN HIM,
  • 00:51:24.290 --> 00:51:27.080
  • THEY'VE SEEN THE FACE OF GOD.
  • 00:51:27.100 --> 00:51:29.030
  • HE DECLARES THAT GOD'S DOING A NEW THING, AND IT HAS
  • 00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:31.040
  • CRASH LANDED IN HIMSELF.
  • 00:51:31.060 --> 00:51:33.090
  • GOD'S NEW WAY IS HERE IN OUR MIDST, WITHIN OUR GRASP.
  • 00:51:33.110 --> 00:51:35.200
  • IT'S AT HAND. WILL YOU REACH OUT AND TOUCH IT?
  • 00:51:35.220 --> 00:51:38.200
  • HIS PURPOSE WAS TO CREATE IN HIMSELF ONE NEW HUMANITY OUT
  • 00:51:38.220 --> 00:51:42.170
  • OF THE TWO, THUS MAKING PEACE.
  • 00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:45.080
  • AND NOW, BECAUSE OF THAT SCANDAL OF JESUS AND THE
  • 00:51:45.100 --> 00:51:47.110
  • POWER OF UNIFYING GRACE AND RECONCILIATION,
  • 00:51:47.130 --> 00:51:49.190
  • MEN AND WOMEN NOW? NOW EQUAL.
  • 00:51:49.210 --> 00:51:51.200
  • BLACK AND WHITE? EQUAL. RICH AND POOR? EQUAL.
  • 00:51:51.220 --> 00:51:54.270
  • A NEW FAMILY, A NEW HUMANITY WHERE ALL OUR DIFFERENCES
  • 00:51:54.290 --> 00:51:57.280
  • ARE NEW CELEBRATED, NOT DESTROYED.
  • 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.060
  • AND NOW, IN THE SAME WAY A MOSAIC IS MADE UP OF BROKEN
  • 00:52:00.080 --> 00:52:03.080
  • RAGGED AND DIRTY PIECES GLASS, SO HUMANITY IS MADE
  • 00:52:03.100 --> 00:52:06.000
  • UP OF BROKEN AND RAGGED PEOPLE; THAT JESUS IS
  • 00:52:06.020 --> 00:52:08.130
  • CREATING A NEW HUMANITY, A FAMILY OF GRACE.
  • 00:52:08.150 --> 00:52:12.210
  • AND WHEN YOU ZOOM OUT, AND YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE
  • 00:52:12.230 --> 00:52:14.280
  • PICTURE, JUST LIKE THE MOSAIC, YOU SEE SOMETHING
  • 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.000
  • INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:52:17.020 --> 00:52:19.000
  • - SO IF YOU JUST FELT MAYBE A LITTLE HEART STRING OR
  • 00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:22.020
  • SOMETHING TUGGED THAT IN THAT VIDEO, I JUST WANT TO
  • 00:52:22.040 --> 00:52:23.250
  • ENCOURAGE YOU WITH SOMETHING.
  • 00:52:23.270 --> 00:52:25.100
  • THE THING THAT ME AND ALYSSA TALK ABOUT A LOT, AND I TALK
  • 00:52:25.120 --> 00:52:27.070
  • A LOT ABOUT WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAYBE ARE SAYING,
  • 00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:29.060
  • HOW DO I EXPERIENCE THIS GRACE?
  • 00:52:29.080 --> 00:52:31.000
  • HOW DO I STEP INTO THIS GRACE?
  • 00:52:31.020 --> 00:52:33.040
  • I THINK OF THE STORY OF JESUS AND THE WOMAN FROM
  • 00:52:33.060 --> 00:52:37.150
  • SAMARIA, AND IT'S THE WOMAN AT THE WELL, JOHN CHAPTER 4.
  • 00:52:37.170 --> 00:52:39.250
  • AND IF YOU KNOW THAT STORY, WHAT'S FASCINATING IS RIGHT
  • 00:52:39.270 --> 00:52:42.160
  • BEFORE THAT STORY STARTS, IT SAYS, "JESUS HAD TO GO
  • 00:52:42.180 --> 00:52:45.110
  • THROUGH SAMARIA."
  • 00:52:45.130 --> 00:52:46.270
  • BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ISRAEL, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
  • 00:52:46.290 --> 00:52:48.250
  • HE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO SAMARIA, OR THROUGH SAMARIA,
  • 00:52:48.270 --> 00:52:51.150
  • AND A LOT OF TIMES, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:52:51.170 --> 00:52:54.250
  • FACT THAT JEWS DIDN'T KIND OF HANG OUT WITH SAMARITANS
  • 00:52:54.270 --> 00:52:57.080
  • AND THE WAY THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFLICT, IT WAS
  • 00:52:57.100 --> 00:52:59.140
  • ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE.
  • 00:52:59.160 --> 00:53:01.100
  • THEY WOULD PURPOSELY TAKE THE LONG ROUTE BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:53:01.120 --> 00:53:03.090
  • DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH SAMARIA.
  • 00:53:03.110 --> 00:53:05.050
  • AND SO I THINK THE FACT THAT IT SAYS JESUS HAD TO GO
  • 00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:07.050
  • THROUGH SAMARIA IS ACTUALLY KIND TRYING TO SAY A LOT
  • 00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:09.060
  • MORE THAN WE THINK IT IS, AND THAT'S SAYING THAT, MAN,
  • 00:53:09.080 --> 00:53:11.080
  • JESUS KNEW, AND HE HAD A DIVINE APPOINTMENT FOR THIS
  • 00:53:11.100 --> 00:53:14.160
  • WOMAN AT THAT WELL, AND SO HE HAD TO GO TO SAMARIA.
  • 00:53:14.180 --> 00:53:18.020
  • AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF US CAN BE ENCOURAGED
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  • WITH, AND YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT THAT IS JESUS RIGHT NOW
  • 00:53:22.010 --> 00:53:24.070
  • FEROCIOUSLY PURSUING YOU.
  • 00:53:24.090 --> 00:53:26.110
  • IT IS THIS WHITE, HOT, FIERY EYES OF JESUS; THAT HIS LOVE
  • 00:53:26.130 --> 00:53:30.010
  • IS SO POTENT AND SO FEROCIOUS.
  • 00:53:30.030 --> 00:53:33.020
  • HE'S COMING AFTER YOU RIGHT NOW, AND HE LOVES
  • 00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:34.250
  • YOU RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:53:34.270 --> 00:53:36.240
  • THERE'S NOTHING YOU COULD DO FOR HIM TO MAKE HIM LOVE YOU
  • 00:53:36.260 --> 00:53:39.020
  • MORE OR LESS BECAUSE IT'S A PERFECT LOVE FOR YOU RIGHT
  • 00:53:39.040 --> 00:53:41.020
  • NOW IN THE CROSS AND IN THE RESURRECTION.
  • 00:53:41.040 --> 00:53:42.190
  • AND HIS INVITATION TO YOU IS THAT YOU HAVE NEW LIFE IF
  • 00:53:42.210 --> 00:53:45.050
  • YOU COME THROUGH THE CROSS; THAT YOU DO HAVE TO LAY DOWN
  • 00:53:45.070 --> 00:53:48.090
  • YOUR LIFE. YOU DO HAVE TO DIE.
  • 00:53:48.110 --> 00:53:50.150
  • YOU DO HAVE TO BE KIND OF GOING INTO THE BURIALS AND
  • 00:53:50.170 --> 00:53:53.050
  • THE WATERS OF BAPTISM.
  • 00:53:53.070 --> 00:53:55.020
  • YOU DO HAVE TO GO DOWN BEFORE YOU CAN COME UP, BUT
  • 00:53:55.040 --> 00:53:57.020
  • HE'S ASKING THAT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, TO LAY DOWN YOUR
  • 00:53:57.040 --> 00:53:59.060
  • LIFE, TO SAY I SURRENDER.
  • 00:53:59.080 --> 00:54:01.160
  • THE TWO WORDS YOU NEED TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:54:01.180 --> 00:54:05.010
  • ARE I SURRENDER, OR I GIVE UP, OR I CAN'T.
  • 00:54:05.030 --> 00:54:07.020
  • SO IF THAT'S YOU RIGHT NOW, I JUST WANT YOU TO PRAY THIS
  • 00:54:07.040 --> 00:54:09.180
  • PRAYER AND JUST BASICALLY SAY, JESUS, I NEED HELP.
  • 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:11.260
  • I NEED HELP.
  • 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:13.250
  • I NEED YOU, AND I WANT TO LIVE FOR YOU FOREVER.
  • 00:54:13.270 --> 00:54:20.000
  • AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT AUTHENTICALLY FROM YOUR
  • 00:54:20.020 --> 00:54:22.150
  • HEART, WHEN YOU SAY THAT FROM A PLACE OF WANTING TO
  • 00:54:22.170 --> 00:54:25.050
  • TRULY KNOW HIM, AND YOU FEEL THAT KIND OF CRACK IN YOUR
  • 00:54:25.070 --> 00:54:27.210
  • SPIRIT IN A GOOD WAY WHERE HE CAN FLOOD IN, THAT'S
  • 00:54:27.230 --> 00:54:30.000
  • WHERE GRACE TRULY IS FOUND, AND YOU WILL KNOW, AND
  • 00:54:30.020 --> 00:54:32.240
  • YOU'RE ON AN ADVENTURE FOR REST OF YOUR LIFE BECAUSE
  • 00:54:32.260 --> 00:54:34.220
  • JESUS IS AN ADVENTURE, AND IT'S AMAZING,
  • 00:54:34.240 --> 00:54:36.090
  • AND GRACE IS AWESOME.
  • 00:54:36.110 --> 00:54:37.290
  • - WHEN I TAKE BACK THE 45 YEAR HISTORY OF TRINITY
  • 00:54:38.010 --> 00:54:41.060
  • BROADCASTING, IT IS ABOUT THESE MOMENTS, THE MOMENTS
  • 00:54:41.080 --> 00:54:45.180
  • WHERE WE KNOW THAT MILLIONS, TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:51.060
  • HAVE WATCHED YOUR VIDEO.
  • 00:54:51.080 --> 00:54:53.070
  • TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE CALLED OUR PHONE
  • 00:54:53.090 --> 00:54:56.280
  • OPERATORS AND GIVEN THEIR LIVES TO JESUS.
  • 00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.090
  • SO NOW, FOR THE LAST 45 YEARS, TO REALIZE THAT THE
  • 00:54:59.110 --> 00:55:05.010
  • 20 SOMETHINGS NOW -- YOU'RE STILL IN YOUR 20s?
  • 00:55:05.030 --> 00:55:07.050
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:55:07.070 --> 00:55:09.100
  • - SO YOU GUYS ARE NOW PICKING UP AND PASSING.
  • 00:55:09.120 --> 00:55:13.040
  • WE'RE ABLE TO PASS THAT TORCH TO ANOTHER GENERATION
  • 00:55:13.060 --> 00:55:15.260
  • THAT WILL SEE JESUS FOUND IN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
  • 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:21.030
  • TECHNICAL AREAS, THE TRADITIONAL, WHEN YOU THINK
  • 00:55:21.050 --> 00:55:24.020
  • OF TELEVISION, WE'RE OLD SCHOOL.
  • 00:55:24.040 --> 00:55:26.040
  • SATELLITES ARE OLD SCHOOL, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:55:26.060 --> 00:55:29.140
  • THEY WERE EARTH-SHATTERING BACK 40 SOME YEARS AGO, BUT
  • 00:55:29.160 --> 00:55:33.150
  • THE MESSAGE OF JESUS AND HIS LOVE AND HIS SCANDALOUS
  • 00:55:33.170 --> 00:55:38.000
  • GRACE WILL PERMEATE EVERY TECHNOLOGY THAT THE
  • 00:55:38.020 --> 00:55:41.220
  • WORLD HAS TO OFFER.
  • 00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:44.080
  • - AND THINK ABOUT IT, JEFFERSON AND ALYSSA.
  • 00:55:44.100 --> 00:55:46.280
  • HIS FATHER'S FATHER NEVER SAW A TELEVISION.
  • 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:49.190
  • - THAT'S CRAZY. - AND NOW HIS FATHER --
  • 00:55:49.210 --> 00:55:52.000
  • - TO THINK OF THE IMPACT THROUGH TELEVISION AFTER
  • 00:55:52.020 --> 00:55:53.210
  • THAT LINEAGE IS CRAZY.
  • 00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:55.140
  • - SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO?
  • 00:55:55.160 --> 00:55:57.160
  • - WHO KNOWS? 10 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU TUBE MIGHT BE
  • 00:55:57.180 --> 00:55:59.180
  • OLD SCHOOL AND IT WILL BE ALL HOLOGRAMS.
  • 00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:01.280
  • THESE LIKE FLOATING 3-DID TECHNOLOGICAL FIGURES.
  • 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.240
  • - I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, THOUGH, THE WAY
  • 00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:07.270
  • TO CRASH THE OLD GENERATION AND THE NEW GENERATION
  • 00:56:07.290 --> 00:56:12.190
  • TOGETHER IS -- YOU KNOW, MY DAD LOVED WHEN SOMEONE WAS
  • 00:56:12.210 --> 00:56:19.100
  • EXPLAINING JESUS, WHEN SOMEBODY WAS EXPLAINING
  • 00:56:19.120 --> 00:56:22.040
  • SCANDALOUS GRACE, WHEN SOMEBODY WAS SAYING
  • 00:56:22.060 --> 00:56:24.090
  • "WHY I HATE RELIGION".
  • 00:56:24.110 --> 00:56:27.090
  • THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM, THE RICH AND DEEP AND AMAZING
  • 00:56:27.110 --> 00:56:30.140
  • CONTENT, IS OLD SCHOOL.
  • 00:56:30.160 --> 00:56:32.210
  • DAD WOULD HAVE LOVED THIS PROGRAM,
  • 00:56:32.230 --> 00:56:34.090
  • IF HE WAS STILL ALIVE.
  • 00:56:34.110 --> 00:56:36.030
  • THEN YOU MIX KIND OF MY GENERATION OF KIND OF THE
  • 00:56:36.050 --> 00:56:39.150
  • BETTER LOOKING SETS. THIS IS NOT A SET.
  • 00:56:39.170 --> 00:56:44.020
  • WE'RE IN MAUI, OKAY, SO IT CAN'T GET ANY
  • 00:56:44.040 --> 00:56:46.170
  • BETTER THAN THAT.
  • 00:56:46.190 --> 00:56:48.110
  • AND THEN HANDING OFF TO THIS AMAZING CONTENT.
  • 00:56:48.130 --> 00:56:50.230
  • THIS IS REALLY A TRI-GENERATION, KIND OF THE
  • 00:56:50.250 --> 00:56:55.000
  • THREE GENERATIONS CRASHING TOGETHER.
  • 00:56:55.020 --> 00:56:57.070
  • - THE MEDIUM HAS CHANGED, BUT THE MESSAGE DOESN'T,
  • 00:56:57.090 --> 00:56:58.260
  • AND THAT'S WHAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.110
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:57:00.130 --> 00:57:02.050
  • - AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING THAT TRINITY
  • 00:57:02.070 --> 00:57:03.170
  • WAS RAISED UP TO DO.
  • 00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:05.020
  • - SHOUTING IT FROM THE ROOF TOPS.
  • 00:57:05.040 --> 00:57:06.150
  • - SO WE'RE JUST DOING IT A LITTLE BIT PRETTIER THAN MY
  • 00:57:06.170 --> 00:57:08.030
  • DAD WOULD HAVE DONE IT.
  • 00:57:08.050 --> 00:57:09.280
  • HE MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE THE TRIP.
  • 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:11.220
  • HE WOULD HAVE MADE YOU COME OVER TO US, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:57:11.240 --> 00:57:13.190
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:57:13.210 --> 00:57:15.050
  • - BUT WHEN MAUI CALLS, HEY, JEFFERSON'S THERE.
  • 00:57:15.070 --> 00:57:16.240
  • WE GOTTA GO.
  • 00:57:16.260 --> 00:57:18.050
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:57:18.070 --> 00:57:19.200
  • - AND A GREAT NEW ANNOUNCEMENT, THOSE THAT ARE
  • 00:57:19.220 --> 00:57:21.130
  • WATCHING, JEFFERSON BETHKE -- AND GRANDMA, IF YOU DON'T
  • 00:57:21.150 --> 00:57:24.220
  • KNOW WHO HE IS, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE BEEN IMPACTED
  • 00:57:24.240 --> 00:57:26.190
  • BY THE CONTENT TODAY.
  • 00:57:26.210 --> 00:57:29.240
  • GET YOUR KIDS, YOUR GRAND KIDS KNOWING.
  • 00:57:29.260 --> 00:57:31.200
  • A BRAND NEW SERIES IS COMING EXCLUSIVELY RIGHT HERE ON
  • 00:57:31.220 --> 00:57:34.120
  • TBN WITH JEFFERSON AND ALYSSA. GUYS, LISTEN.
  • 00:57:34.140 --> 00:57:38.210
  • - WE LOVE YOU, KIDS.
  • 00:57:38.230 --> 00:57:40.130
  • - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.
  • 00:57:40.150 --> 00:57:41.290
  • - AMAZING JOB. WE'LL SEE YOU.
  • 00:57:42.010 --> 00:57:43.100
  • - THANKS FOR HAVING US. - TAKE CARE, MAN.
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