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Praise | Death Behind Bars: The Impact of the Coronavirus on Prisoners | July 21, 2020

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July 21, 2020
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Clifton Davis is joined by various leaders to discuss the dangers incarcerated individuals are facing due to Covid-19

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Praise | Death Behind Bars: The Impact of the Coronavirus on Prisoners | July 21, 2020

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  • (dramatic upbeat music)
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  • - Could you imagine beingthere, actually living in fear,
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  • hearing people down the halls
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  • or in other roomsbeing tested positive.
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  • (dramatic upbeat music)
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  • - They have no where to go.
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  • I've been in this prisons myself
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  • and I've seen this cells andvisited this guys in there,
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  • they're right ontop of each other.
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  • - African Americansand Hispanics
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  • are disproportionately arrested.
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  • (dramatic upbeat music)
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  • - Social distancingis impossible.
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  • So then what do you doto prevent the spread?
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  • - Prisoners quite frequentlystay in jail, sick
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  • and dying becausethey can't get even
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  • the simple medicalcare for the flu.
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  • - Hygiene products.
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  • On a regular day without COVID
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  • it's hard to get a bar of soap.
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  • (dramatic upbeat music)
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  • - The problem is, prisoners aretoo often forgotten, ignored
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  • and left behind.
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  • (dramatic upbeat music)
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  • - They're askingfor your prayers.
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  • They're asking for us asthe church on the outside
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  • to not forget about them.
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  • - God bless youand good evening.
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  • And thank you forwatching, "Praise" tonight,
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  • where we talk about COVIDbehind bars, deaths in prison,
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  • because it's killing people.
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  • This pandemic has spreadall over this globe
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  • all over the world and certainly
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  • it's gotten inside of prisons.
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  • Now you think thesepeople are isolated,
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  • they're off to themselves.
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  • How could this happen?
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  • Well, it only takes one guardto contaminate a whole prison.
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  • A one person with thedisease can contaminate
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  • a large number of people.
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  • We've gotten some datafrom The Marshall Project
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  • an internet journalism groupthat has collected data
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  • about criminaljustice in America.
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  • And we've learned thatover 25.000 prisoners
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  • have tested it positive forCorona virus in prisons.
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  • Of them, as of May20th, 415 have died.
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  • More than 7.000 of thestaff have tested positive
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  • for Corona virus.
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  • It's rampant, it's inand out of our prisons
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  • and there's no cure,there's no vaccine,
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  • there's no a medicinethat can be taken for it.
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  • So we wanna talkabout this problem,
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  • and maybe there are somesolutions that we can recommend.
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  • In order to discuss this,
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  • we've gathered awonderful group of people
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  • who have experience in andout of prisons with prisoners
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  • and experience and insighton spiritual level as well.
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  • I'd like to introducethem to you at this point.
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  • First of all, sheserved 25 years
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  • in the largest women'sprison in California,
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  • and she preached for 21years behind the prison walls
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  • upon parole, she continuedher prison ministry.
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  • Her name is Georgia Horton.
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  • Welcome Georgia, thank you.
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  • I want you to meet TinaNaidoo, executive director
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  • of the Texas Offenders ReentryInitiative, called TORI
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  • and she's served underthe leadership of
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  • Bishop T.D. Jakes for over20 years in prison ministry.
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  • And then I want you to sayhello to Darryl Strawberry,
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  • former major leaguebaseball player,
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  • four time world series champion,
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  • and Darryl's purpose and passionis serving the Lord Jesus
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  • by speaking a messagehope and helping others
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  • to transform their livesthrough the power of the gospel.
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  • And he's been involved inprison ministry as well.
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  • I want you to say helloto our dear friend,
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  • Mablean Ephriam,hello Judge Mablean.
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  • She's brought a wealth oflegal and sensible knowledge
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  • to court rooms nationwide.
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  • And she returned tothe bench in 2014
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  • when she started withher television show,
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  • "Justice With Judge Mayblean"
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  • And I want you to sayhello to C.J. Orndorff.
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  • He travels from coast tocoast using tools of music,
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  • the word of God and the loveof God to touch men and women
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  • who are doing time in prisons.
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  • Then he hascompleted since 1994,
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  • over 1700 concerts incorrectional facilities.
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  • God bless you, C.J.- God bless you--
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  • - We are thrilled to haveall of these people talking
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  • with us todayabout this subject.
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  • Certainly I think the firstperson I'd like to chat with
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  • about the situation in prisons
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  • is someone who's spent25 years behind bars.
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  • That would be a Georgia Horton,
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  • Georgia, God blessyou for being here.
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  • Share with us what the issueis in terms of prisoners
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  • and COVID-19 behind bars.
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  • - Well, thank you so much forhaving me first, Mr. Davis,
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  • there are multipleissues that are going on
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  • behind the walls.
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  • COVID has causeda mass confusion
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  • as well as mental healthissues, trauma issues,
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  • as well as deaths.
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  • People being separatedfor their family
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  • and their loved ones.
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  • Since COVID-19has hit the world,
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  • it has stopped administration
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  • for as the free world ministers,
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  • being able to come andminister to the prisoners
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  • as well as no visitorsfrom the family,
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  • as well as the mental healthand people being locked inside
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  • of their cells and notbeing able to participate
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  • in the coping tools thatare needed and necessary
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  • to keep your mentalhealth stable
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  • while you in suchan environment.
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  • We have heard of onewoman that was pregnant
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  • that has not only passedaway, but also lost her child.
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  • And so these are the issues that
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  • we're dealing withbehind the walls.
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  • - I understand thatmany of these cells
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  • were built for twoprisoners, three at the most,
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  • but some hold andhouses as many as eight,
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  • and they're forced to stayin their cells, you say,
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  • so even if one oftheir roommates orcellmates, if you will
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  • has contracted the virus,
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  • it's no doubt therest will get it.
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  • Is that a problem as well?
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  • - Yes, sir.
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  • And so what happened wasinitially when it hit
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  • there wasn't allowing testing.
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  • And so, because therewasn't any testing,
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  • people was infected anddidn't even realize it.
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  • So when the testing finallydid hit inside the institution,
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  • then we found out theoutbreak had already started
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  • as well as it did,
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  • as well as in the society.
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  • So as times has moved on now,
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  • they have made special housingunits to where now the people
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  • that are infectedand have symptoms
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  • are removed and placedin certain places.
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  • It depends on whatprison that they're at,
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  • but the ones that haveno symptoms remainwhere they're at.
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  • - Obviously we'velearned from the CDC
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  • that there are manywho are asymptomatic,
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  • but who can shedthis virus abroad.
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  • Tell us a little bit,
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  • if you would about socialdistancing in prisons,
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  • have you heard anything aboutefforts to keep people apart,
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  • other than what youjust shared with us
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  • about how special housing.
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  • - It's sort ofimpossible cause like
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  • what you sharedearlier, Mr. Davis,
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  • many of the rooms were builtjust to house two people.
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  • We know now there are eightin that particular room.
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  • And so there is no space.
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  • So it's virtuallyimpossible for them
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  • to exercise a six feet rule.
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  • It's virtually impossiblefor them to exercise
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  • the six feet space at all.
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  • So there they're stuck,having to live in fear,
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  • having to dealwith the situation
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  • and also having tohear other prisoners
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  • as the medical staffcome into the unit
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  • and tell them abouttheir situation.
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  • They've been tested positiveinto roll up immediately
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  • to be removed.
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  • So could youimagine being there,
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  • actually living in fear,hearing people down the halls
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  • or in other roomsbeing tested positive
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  • and yet yourself as juststuck there not realizing is,
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  • you yourself notonly going to contain
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  • and catch thevirus, but also die.
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  • - I took part in prisonministry many years ago
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  • and I got to theinside of San Quentin
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  • and I went to AldersonWomen's federal prison
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  • in West Virginia andministered there.
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  • And other facilities in the East
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  • while I was doing prisonministry, two things,
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  • one, I don't know, Iwas touched by how close
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  • the proximity everyonehad to the next person,
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  • how intimate asetting that really is
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  • because the prisonsare so overcrowded.
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  • It meant to me thatthere was no way,
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  • no possible way that anykind of social distancing
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  • could take place.
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  • One other thingI wanna say about
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  • that prison ministry I shared,
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  • I went to share with prisoners,
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  • but over and over, theybrought tears to my eyes
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  • as they ministered to me.
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  • I was so moved and powerfully so
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  • by the level of faiththat was shown to me
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  • by many of the prisoners whowere believers behind the bars,
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  • I wanted to get theperspective of a chaplain
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  • inside the walls.
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  • One who has seen firsthand
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  • how COVID-19 isaffecting prisoners.
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  • Here's what he had to say.
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  • - COVID has impacteda lot of our inmates
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  • in many different ways andespecially our female inmates.
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  • And many of the female inmateshave children on the outside.
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  • So when you're on the inside
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  • and you can't haveany visitation becauseall that's ended,
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  • lack of communication, itcauses a lot of anxiety.
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  • Suicide watch iscritical for us.
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  • And during this COVID andespecially with our women
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  • that are in correctionoffices are very concerned
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  • to make sure thatall of our inmates
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  • are carefully monitoredand especially
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  • those that might be goingthrough some severe depression.
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  • Because of TBN secondchance and the programming,
  • 00:11:08.246 --> 00:11:11.916
  • which we can't provide withour volunteers anymore,
  • 00:11:11.916 --> 00:11:14.486
  • we can't go in.
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  • We have a supportsystem for those
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  • that have come throughsome deep depression
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  • and maybe evenattempted suicide.
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  • When they get releasedto general population,
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  • they can get some supportthat they desperately need.
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  • - If you've just tuned in,
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  • we're talking about theimpact of COVID-19 in prisons.
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  • Tina, let me ask you, whatdo you think can be done?
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  • What are some ofthe issues in terms
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  • of health careinside the facility?
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  • - What I can speak toas far as the issues
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  • that people are facinginside the walls,
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  • is that there's alevel of anxiety
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  • and fear, frustration, anger,just ourselves as people
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  • that are not livinginside the prison,
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  • being quarantined has causedthat to the lay person.
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  • But imagine being ina closet for 10 weeks,
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  • you're not allowedto go out to eat.
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  • You're getting asack lunch and it's,
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  • I mean, the mealsare really terrible.
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  • And then, on top of it, you mayget some opportunity to make
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  • a five minute phone call, butthen you're in a long line,
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  • maybe twice a weekyou get to communicate
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  • with the outside world.
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  • And so you're in a constantenvironment or setting
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  • where it's just, you're on edge.
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  • You're anxious.
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  • And to do that 24/7for the past 10 weeks
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  • to sit in that typeof a setting and hope
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  • that nobody pops off,nobody gets angry,
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  • nobody gets frustratedthat to consistently be
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  • in that environment andtry to remain hopeful,
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  • it's terrifying.
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  • It's terrifying toeven think about it.
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  • But even looking at thingslike hygiene, hygiene products,
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  • on a regular day without COVID,
  • 00:13:15.607 --> 00:13:17.508
  • it's hard to get a barof soap and the soap bars
  • 00:13:17.508 --> 00:13:20.311
  • are so small and thenyou don't have shampoo
  • 00:13:20.311 --> 00:13:22.447
  • and then you have to cut it up
  • 00:13:22.447 --> 00:13:23.948
  • and then you'd have to mixit in water to make shampoo.
  • 00:13:23.948 --> 00:13:26.684
  • you become very creativewhen you're in prison.
  • 00:13:26.684 --> 00:13:29.520
  • You become very creativewhen you're in jail.
  • 00:13:29.520 --> 00:13:31.723
  • - In this particular situation,
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  • I think it hasmagnified even more.
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  • And so when I sit back and Ilook at my fellow prisoner,
  • 00:13:38.129 --> 00:13:42.233
  • my fellow brother, sister,who is behind walls,
  • 00:13:42.233 --> 00:13:46.671
  • and I'm looking attheir situation,
  • 00:13:46.671 --> 00:13:49.707
  • I'm trying to figureout what can I do?
  • 00:13:49.707 --> 00:13:52.310
  • What can we do?
  • 00:13:52.310 --> 00:13:53.845
  • And just simplethings like hygiene,
  • 00:13:53.845 --> 00:13:57.949
  • basic hygieneproducts, like soap.
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  • We can afford to givethem a bar of soap,
  • 00:14:01.786 --> 00:14:05.123
  • you know, or even the medicalcare if they have symptoms.
  • 00:14:05.123 --> 00:14:09.327
  • There's a lot ofStates that mandate
  • 00:14:09.327 --> 00:14:11.996
  • they have to give a copay inorder to get medical care.
  • 00:14:11.996 --> 00:14:16.467
  • And so just eventhose simple things,
  • 00:14:16.467 --> 00:14:19.938
  • if we could suspendmedical copays,
  • 00:14:19.938 --> 00:14:22.273
  • if we could give a bar ofsoap to help with prevention
  • 00:14:22.273 --> 00:14:26.244
  • the protective gear, you know,
  • 00:14:27.345 --> 00:14:29.414
  • when you're in that close ofproximity just like you said
  • 00:14:29.414 --> 00:14:32.917
  • social distancing is impossible.
  • 00:14:32.917 --> 00:14:35.353
  • So then what do you doto prevent the spread?
  • 00:14:35.353 --> 00:14:38.489
  • And so those are some ofthe things that, you know,
  • 00:14:38.489 --> 00:14:41.526
  • we've been thinking abouttools that we can provide.
  • 00:14:41.526 --> 00:14:45.096
  • And it doesn't takean act of Congress
  • 00:14:45.096 --> 00:14:47.832
  • or a policy to be changedin order to do that,
  • 00:14:47.832 --> 00:14:51.536
  • so those are just someof those solutions
  • 00:14:51.536 --> 00:14:54.172
  • that, you know, we'vekind of talked about
  • 00:14:54.172 --> 00:14:57.108
  • amongst ourselves.
  • 00:14:57.108 --> 00:14:58.643
  • - I see, we've heard severalissues prisoners are facing
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  • with COVID-19.
  • 00:15:02.914 --> 00:15:04.816
  • Let's go now to anexpert inside the system
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  • to get his take on all this.
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  • (soft music)
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  • - Some people you would say
  • 00:15:15.793 --> 00:15:17.328
  • you have to have a courtorder to have health care.
  • 00:15:17.328 --> 00:15:20.064
  • Most prisons do have acopay for inmates to pay,
  • 00:15:20.064 --> 00:15:23.067
  • to see the doctor.
  • 00:15:23.067 --> 00:15:24.602
  • The copay is purpose is tokeep people from malingering
  • 00:15:24.602 --> 00:15:27.805
  • and said, just toget out of work,
  • 00:15:27.805 --> 00:15:29.273
  • to want to go to the doctor,
  • 00:15:29.273 --> 00:15:30.808
  • but here's thesituation with COVID-19.
  • 00:15:30.808 --> 00:15:34.045
  • The prisons and I can't imagine
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  • one that wouldn'tsuspend the copay
  • 00:15:36.014 --> 00:15:38.149
  • because we need to know quickly
  • 00:15:38.149 --> 00:15:40.718
  • who has the symptom and whopotentially has the COVID-19
  • 00:15:40.718 --> 00:15:44.589
  • to get them in isolationaway from the other prisoner.
  • 00:15:44.589 --> 00:15:47.825
  • or you gonna have thepandemic into prison
  • 00:15:47.825 --> 00:15:49.927
  • To provide soap and to providethe basic needs of life
  • 00:15:51.596 --> 00:15:55.633
  • should not be a difficultthing to do in prison
  • 00:15:55.633 --> 00:15:58.169
  • because in prison
  • 00:15:58.169 --> 00:15:59.670
  • we should provide thosethings without fail,
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  • otherwise, we arenot doing our job.
  • 00:16:03.041 --> 00:16:05.376
  • The most important thing was
  • 00:16:07.245 --> 00:16:09.047
  • to really shut down trafficin and out of the prison
  • 00:16:09.047 --> 00:16:12.850
  • to daily check the officerscoming in to a temperature
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  • checking many temperature
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  • that you could everywhere youcould to reduce the threat.
  • 00:16:18.356 --> 00:16:22.360
  • Then we stopped the recreation
  • 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.328
  • and then we had to stopbecause of social distancing.
  • 00:16:24.328 --> 00:16:27.732
  • So you accurately just likeput everything to sleep.
  • 00:16:27.732 --> 00:16:31.869
  • Now you can't keep itasleep, it's gonna wake up.
  • 00:16:31.869 --> 00:16:35.206
  • And when it wakesup there's despair,
  • 00:16:35.206 --> 00:16:37.175
  • there's what are wegonna do, hide my family,
  • 00:16:37.175 --> 00:16:40.044
  • Yeah, The other thingI would like to mention
  • 00:16:42.280 --> 00:16:44.549
  • that was really critical
  • 00:16:44.549 --> 00:16:46.117
  • was to try to establishvideo visiting
  • 00:16:46.117 --> 00:16:49.020
  • in that way, the family andthe inmate could communicate,
  • 00:16:49.020 --> 00:16:52.690
  • they could still talk andthey could still visit.
  • 00:16:52.690 --> 00:16:55.393
  • Some prisons have fearedto develop a mechanism,
  • 00:16:56.594 --> 00:17:00.064
  • to release those inmates,
  • 00:17:00.064 --> 00:17:01.466
  • that weren't a threat tothe community, any bore,
  • 00:17:01.466 --> 00:17:03.768
  • or who were totallyrehabilitated
  • 00:17:03.768 --> 00:17:06.137
  • and to release those from prison
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  • and worked with available
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  • release as many asyou could safely.
  • 00:17:09.740 --> 00:17:12.810
  • - Commissioner Burl Cain,shedding light on COVID-19
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  • in prisons.
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  • Today on praisewe're talking about
  • 00:17:18.649 --> 00:17:20.785
  • what inmates arefacing behind bars.
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  • Now let's dive a littlebit deeper into this.
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  • Let me ask judge Maybelline,
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  • Do you see this as tyinginto systemic racism?
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  • The kind of neglect that theseprisoners are experiencing?
  • 00:17:36.701 --> 00:17:41.706
  • - It definitely is Clifton,
  • 00:17:42.573 --> 00:17:43.441
  • is just an extension
  • 00:17:43.441 --> 00:17:46.577
  • of the overall issueof racism in America.
  • 00:17:46.577 --> 00:17:49.780
  • First of all, the numberof people in prison
  • 00:17:49.780 --> 00:17:52.350
  • the majority are Hispanicand African Americans.
  • 00:17:53.751 --> 00:17:56.487
  • So they're in thereat larger numbers.
  • 00:17:56.487 --> 00:17:58.389
  • We've all been told that COVIDaffects African Americans
  • 00:17:58.389 --> 00:18:02.093
  • and Hispanics disparatelybecause of the fact
  • 00:18:02.093 --> 00:18:04.896
  • that they have theother issues related to
  • 00:18:04.896 --> 00:18:07.398
  • high blood pressure heartcondition, diabetes,
  • 00:18:07.398 --> 00:18:11.736
  • that's related to the fact that
  • 00:18:11.736 --> 00:18:13.337
  • they're unable to getadequate healthcare
  • 00:18:13.337 --> 00:18:16.174
  • because they can't affordthe health insurance,
  • 00:18:16.174 --> 00:18:18.242
  • they can't afford the doctors,
  • 00:18:18.242 --> 00:18:20.311
  • then it's also relatedto the food that they eat
  • 00:18:20.311 --> 00:18:22.747
  • because of their income,
  • 00:18:22.747 --> 00:18:25.249
  • low income persons have toeat foods that go a long way
  • 00:18:25.249 --> 00:18:29.253
  • like rice and beans, anda lot of starchy foods
  • 00:18:29.253 --> 00:18:32.890
  • that go and can be shared
  • 00:18:32.890 --> 00:18:35.026
  • and go a long way withthe family members,
  • 00:18:35.026 --> 00:18:37.495
  • all of that, the numberof people in prison,
  • 00:18:37.495 --> 00:18:40.198
  • the fact that you haveso many people in prison,
  • 00:18:40.198 --> 00:18:42.700
  • that you have eightpeople to a room,
  • 00:18:42.700 --> 00:18:44.569
  • as opposed to twopeople to a room
  • 00:18:44.569 --> 00:18:46.837
  • is the fact thatAfrican Americans
  • 00:18:46.837 --> 00:18:49.307
  • and Hispanics aredisproportionately arrested.
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  • It starts at the arrest level,
  • 00:18:53.177 --> 00:18:55.413
  • the arrest allows a policeofficer to have discretion
  • 00:18:55.413 --> 00:18:59.116
  • over what crimes youarrest people for,
  • 00:18:59.116 --> 00:19:01.519
  • and whether infact, it's a crime.
  • 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.754
  • You see that the police officers
  • 00:19:03.754 --> 00:19:05.756
  • that just put his knee onthis man and killed him,
  • 00:19:07.191 --> 00:19:08.426
  • it took a long time toarrest, but a black man,
  • 00:19:08.426 --> 00:19:11.128
  • a Hispanic man will getarrested for a tail light,
  • 00:19:11.128 --> 00:19:13.998
  • being out on the car, we'llget stopped by the police
  • 00:19:13.998 --> 00:19:16.934
  • and arrested for the tiresnot having enough air
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  • will get stopped for thesimplest misdemeanor violation,
  • 00:19:20.037 --> 00:19:23.741
  • and it will beelevated to a felony.
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  • There are a lot ofcases like theft,
  • 00:19:26.143 --> 00:19:29.113
  • this call will becall a wobbler,
  • 00:19:29.113 --> 00:19:30.681
  • it could be prosecuted asa misdemeanor or felony
  • 00:19:30.681 --> 00:19:31.816
  • for African Americansand Hispanics
  • 00:19:31.816 --> 00:19:35.319
  • that will be a felonious arrest,
  • 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.589
  • which means thatthe bail is higher,
  • 00:19:38.589 --> 00:19:40.558
  • which the African Americanand Hispanic cannot afford,
  • 00:19:40.558 --> 00:19:43.661
  • which means theyreally need an attorney
  • 00:19:43.661 --> 00:19:45.896
  • to help them with thatbecause it's more serious,
  • 00:19:45.896 --> 00:19:48.499
  • they can't afford that,
  • 00:19:48.499 --> 00:19:49.734
  • so they're going tostay in prison longer.
  • 00:19:49.734 --> 00:19:51.068
  • You got to stay inprison for a misdemeanor
  • 00:19:51.068 --> 00:19:53.938
  • because you can'tafford $1.000 bails.
  • 00:19:53.938 --> 00:19:57.041
  • So you have a lot ofprisoner people there
  • 00:19:57.041 --> 00:19:59.410
  • that are waiting a trial
  • 00:19:59.410 --> 00:20:01.445
  • the law requires thatthey have to go to trial
  • 00:20:01.445 --> 00:20:03.447
  • within 60 days of imprisonment.
  • 00:20:03.447 --> 00:20:05.883
  • That rarely happens becausethe courtrooms are overcrowded,
  • 00:20:05.883 --> 00:20:08.986
  • so you have to ask theperson for an extension
  • 00:20:08.986 --> 00:20:12.690
  • to have the trialbegan in the 60 days.
  • 00:20:12.690 --> 00:20:14.992
  • So it's really a vicious cycle
  • 00:20:14.992 --> 00:20:17.461
  • and a continuation of the racism
  • 00:20:17.461 --> 00:20:19.897
  • and all of the classism,and the lack of economics
  • 00:20:19.897 --> 00:20:24.201
  • and the lack ofadequate healthcare,
  • 00:20:24.201 --> 00:20:26.237
  • and the lack of adequate housing
  • 00:20:26.237 --> 00:20:28.205
  • is extended into the prison.
  • 00:20:28.205 --> 00:20:30.408
  • So therefore they'regoing to get the COVID
  • 00:20:30.408 --> 00:20:33.210
  • or the coronavirus there,there's no way they can go.
  • 00:20:34.645 --> 00:20:35.880
  • Even in prison, youhave medical care,
  • 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.716
  • but they're not giventhe medical care
  • 00:20:38.716 --> 00:20:40.584
  • as a general rulewithout a court order
  • 00:20:40.584 --> 00:20:43.721
  • prisoners quite frequentlystay in jail, sick,
  • 00:20:43.721 --> 00:20:47.558
  • and you end up dying
  • 00:20:47.558 --> 00:20:49.260
  • because they can't get eventhe simple medical care
  • 00:20:49.260 --> 00:20:52.396
  • for the flu whenthey're in prison,
  • 00:20:52.396 --> 00:20:53.798
  • so let alone Corona virus.
  • 00:20:53.798 --> 00:20:56.334
  • I think we have a lot offacilities in terms of solution
  • 00:20:56.334 --> 00:20:59.503
  • people in there onmisdemeanors, on infractions,
  • 00:20:59.503 --> 00:21:03.307
  • on parole violation,on probation violation,
  • 00:21:03.307 --> 00:21:06.744
  • those people should be let out,
  • 00:21:06.744 --> 00:21:08.979
  • should be released at this time
  • 00:21:08.979 --> 00:21:11.315
  • because you need to reduce thenumber of people in prison.
  • 00:21:11.315 --> 00:21:15.619
  • And you can do that they'vedone it on the federal level,
  • 00:21:15.619 --> 00:21:18.789
  • they've declared torelease federal prisoners
  • 00:21:18.789 --> 00:21:21.726
  • that are in therefor minor crimes,
  • 00:21:21.726 --> 00:21:23.828
  • they had have done at leastone half of their sentence.
  • 00:21:23.828 --> 00:21:26.497
  • The state and the localprisons can do the same thing.
  • 00:21:26.497 --> 00:21:29.800
  • They can have a release program
  • 00:21:29.800 --> 00:21:31.335
  • for those who arethere awaiting trial
  • 00:21:31.335 --> 00:21:34.138
  • forget about bail theyjust let them out.
  • 00:21:34.138 --> 00:21:36.207
  • They're awaiting trial,
  • 00:21:36.207 --> 00:21:37.742
  • you can reduce the numberof prisoners and that way
  • 00:21:37.742 --> 00:21:39.944
  • you can also do it bythose who have served
  • 00:21:39.944 --> 00:21:43.280
  • at least a minimumterm, release them.
  • 00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:46.150
  • And then there are somany facilities and places
  • 00:21:47.551 --> 00:21:50.955
  • that the governmentowns, the state owns
  • 00:21:50.955 --> 00:21:53.157
  • is so much vacant land,so much vacant housing.
  • 00:21:53.157 --> 00:21:55.893
  • You can turn some of thatgovernmental property
  • 00:21:55.893 --> 00:21:59.330
  • that's not being used.
  • 00:21:59.330 --> 00:22:00.998
  • You can open that up
  • 00:22:00.998 --> 00:22:02.433
  • to remove the prisonersthat have COVID-19
  • 00:22:02.433 --> 00:22:06.203
  • and take them to thosefacilities like that,
  • 00:22:06.203 --> 00:22:08.506
  • so that you can havetemporary housing
  • 00:22:08.506 --> 00:22:10.741
  • and get them away from theprisoners who are non COVID.
  • 00:22:10.741 --> 00:22:14.478
  • You've got to find a way, justas they've used the ships,
  • 00:22:14.478 --> 00:22:17.715
  • they've used the federalshifts for hospitals,
  • 00:22:17.715 --> 00:22:20.718
  • for the average person,
  • 00:22:20.718 --> 00:22:22.153
  • they can use other Federalproperties to remove
  • 00:22:22.153 --> 00:22:25.089
  • or state governmentproperties that are vacant,
  • 00:22:25.089 --> 00:22:28.726
  • or city governmentproperties that are vacant,
  • 00:22:28.726 --> 00:22:31.262
  • or County governmentproperties that are vacant.
  • 00:22:31.262 --> 00:22:32.696
  • There's not a lot ofvacant properties,
  • 00:22:32.696 --> 00:22:35.499
  • you can use thoseas temporary shelter
  • 00:22:35.499 --> 00:22:38.169
  • for prisoners who have covert
  • 00:22:38.169 --> 00:22:40.137
  • remove them from the environment
  • 00:22:40.137 --> 00:22:42.306
  • for those who don't have it,
  • 00:22:42.306 --> 00:22:43.974
  • but you just have tohave a desire to do that.
  • 00:22:43.974 --> 00:22:46.944
  • You've heard someone saythat we're dispensable,
  • 00:22:46.944 --> 00:22:49.413
  • so we're, you know,we're not worthy
  • 00:22:49.413 --> 00:22:51.482
  • of being cared for anyway.
  • 00:22:51.482 --> 00:22:53.651
  • There's a thought around America
  • 00:22:53.651 --> 00:22:55.085
  • that African Americans andHispanic and people of a lower,
  • 00:22:55.085 --> 00:22:58.189
  • I won't even sayAfrican Americans
  • 00:22:58.189 --> 00:23:00.458
  • because it's really peopleof lower economic strata
  • 00:23:00.458 --> 00:23:05.095
  • are not treated in the samemanner as those who have,
  • 00:23:05.095 --> 00:23:09.200
  • you really have thehaves and the have nots,
  • 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.536
  • and that's the waywe've become in America,
  • 00:23:12.536 --> 00:23:14.438
  • as opposed to beingour brother's keeper,
  • 00:23:14.438 --> 00:23:18.275
  • as opposed to caringfor our brothers
  • 00:23:18.275 --> 00:23:20.277
  • as we espouse Christianity,but we don't care
  • 00:23:20.277 --> 00:23:23.881
  • if you look around seriously,
  • 00:23:23.881 --> 00:23:25.382
  • there are a lot of Christians
  • 00:23:25.382 --> 00:23:26.784
  • who are more adamantabout prisoners,
  • 00:23:26.784 --> 00:23:30.287
  • not coming to livein their communities
  • 00:23:30.287 --> 00:23:32.523
  • or people beingreleased from prison
  • 00:23:32.523 --> 00:23:33.924
  • they don't want themin their communities,
  • 00:23:33.924 --> 00:23:35.593
  • they don't want them nearby.
  • 00:23:35.593 --> 00:23:36.760
  • That's not theChristian attitude,
  • 00:23:36.760 --> 00:23:38.229
  • what happened to loving byneighbor we're not doing that.
  • 00:23:38.229 --> 00:23:41.332
  • What happened tocaring for the homeless
  • 00:23:41.332 --> 00:23:43.334
  • and for those who cannotcare for themselves.
  • 00:23:43.334 --> 00:23:45.636
  • So we have got to find waysto care for these people
  • 00:23:45.636 --> 00:23:48.372
  • and treat them as humanbeings and do onto others
  • 00:23:48.372 --> 00:23:52.343
  • old by typicalbiblical scripture, welearned this children
  • 00:23:52.343 --> 00:23:56.080
  • do unto others as youwould that men do unto you,
  • 00:23:56.080 --> 00:23:58.883
  • do you also unto them.
  • 00:23:58.883 --> 00:24:00.417
  • If it was a, the childof someone who had money,
  • 00:24:00.417 --> 00:24:05.155
  • they get out of prison.
  • 00:24:05.155 --> 00:24:06.724
  • Look at, look at all the earlyreleases from federal prison,
  • 00:24:06.724 --> 00:24:09.193
  • who did they start with Cohen
  • 00:24:09.193 --> 00:24:11.128
  • and all the peopleassociated with Trump,
  • 00:24:11.128 --> 00:24:13.063
  • they started
  • 00:24:13.063 --> 00:24:14.632
  • and they haven't done onethird of their sentencing.
  • 00:24:14.632 --> 00:24:16.000
  • So again, it's not fair- Oh wonderful
  • 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:19.103
  • - In terms of howwe're released, right?
  • 00:24:19.103 --> 00:24:20.538
  • Paul, Manafort, Cohen,all of those people,
  • 00:24:20.538 --> 00:24:22.973
  • but there are otherAfrican Americans,
  • 00:24:22.973 --> 00:24:25.175
  • and other prisonerswho have been there
  • 00:24:25.175 --> 00:24:26.777
  • and have served morethan half their time
  • 00:24:26.777 --> 00:24:29.079
  • and they can not be released.
  • 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:30.581
  • So again, you're talkingabout systemic racism.
  • 00:24:30.581 --> 00:24:34.818
  • - We're coming back totalk about some solutions,
  • 00:24:34.818 --> 00:24:37.721
  • we're gonna come toyou, Darryl strawberry,
  • 00:24:37.721 --> 00:24:39.657
  • when we when we come back,I want to talk to you about,
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  • do you feel from the prisonersthat you have met with
  • 00:24:43.694 --> 00:24:48.699
  • that they are beingignored, completely ignored,
  • 00:24:50.034 --> 00:24:53.504
  • and then, I want to talkabout some solutions
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  • that each of youmay have in mind.
  • 00:24:57.675 --> 00:25:00.778
  • Judge Maybelline hasshared a few there.
  • 00:25:00.778 --> 00:25:03.147
  • We're gonna hear more from her,
  • 00:25:03.147 --> 00:25:04.448
  • but I want to hear fromGeorgia and from Tina,
  • 00:25:04.448 --> 00:25:06.884
  • I want to hear from CJ
  • 00:25:06.884 --> 00:25:08.452
  • 'cause he's been doing thisministry for a long time,
  • 00:25:08.452 --> 00:25:11.889
  • so we'll be right back.
  • 00:25:11.889 --> 00:25:13.557
  • - I have received reportsof the fear, the devastation
  • 00:25:16.994 --> 00:25:20.497
  • and the overwhelming concern,they have limited space,
  • 00:25:20.497 --> 00:25:24.134
  • they have limitedmedical supplies.
  • 00:25:24.134 --> 00:25:26.637
  • - We need to have thevoice that God has given us
  • 00:25:26.637 --> 00:25:29.473
  • to be able to goinside the prisons
  • 00:25:29.473 --> 00:25:32.042
  • and be able to encourage people
  • 00:25:32.042 --> 00:25:34.244
  • and help them understandthat they are not a mistake.
  • 00:25:34.244 --> 00:25:36.880
  • - [Prisoner] A lotof people look at you
  • 00:25:38.015 --> 00:25:39.516
  • as if you're some type ofmonster or a bad person,
  • 00:25:39.516 --> 00:25:43.187
  • because you've madea mistake in life.
  • 00:25:43.187 --> 00:25:45.956
  • - There's so much negative.
  • 00:25:47.491 --> 00:25:51.128
  • - In this environment, alot of people lose hope.
  • 00:25:53.964 --> 00:25:56.433
  • - [Prisoner] When Iwalk around and tears,
  • 00:25:57.801 --> 00:26:00.004
  • all I see is death
  • 00:26:00.004 --> 00:26:00.971
  • - We dealing with withNan, many of them,
  • 00:26:02.106 --> 00:26:05.609
  • we've had a very difficult life.
  • 00:26:05.609 --> 00:26:08.112
  • - You deal with strainedrelationships, lost, loved ones.
  • 00:26:08.112 --> 00:26:13.117
  • You deal with a lot andsome people give up.
  • 00:26:14.251 --> 00:26:16.153
  • - None of us werecreated to be in prison.
  • 00:26:16.153 --> 00:26:18.188
  • Not one of us was createdto be locked behind a fence.
  • 00:26:18.188 --> 00:26:22.192
  • Although your passenger passed,
  • 00:26:22.192 --> 00:26:24.628
  • there is a second chance,there is forgiveness.
  • 00:26:24.628 --> 00:26:26.964
  • - This is such aninteresting subject,
  • 00:26:34.672 --> 00:26:37.741
  • and there's a wonderfulway that Christianity
  • 00:26:37.741 --> 00:26:41.645
  • can find its placein the discussion.
  • 00:26:41.645 --> 00:26:45.749
  • I'd like to talk tosome of our guests
  • 00:26:45.749 --> 00:26:47.951
  • about some solutionsfor the problem we see
  • 00:26:47.951 --> 00:26:51.255
  • with death inprisons with COVID-19
  • 00:26:51.255 --> 00:26:54.792
  • behind the prison walls.
  • 00:26:54.792 --> 00:26:56.427
  • First of all, I want totalk to Darryl strawberry
  • 00:26:56.427 --> 00:26:58.762
  • who's had conversationswith prisoners,
  • 00:26:58.762 --> 00:27:02.232
  • Who's been involvedin prison ministry,
  • 00:27:02.232 --> 00:27:04.835
  • and he's a minister himselfand a wonderful one at that
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  • Daryl, welcome to the show.
  • 00:27:08.205 --> 00:27:10.274
  • Well thank you Clifton, andthank you to all the guests
  • 00:27:10.274 --> 00:27:13.043
  • that is on the show.
  • 00:27:13.043 --> 00:27:14.111
  • This is a really incredible time
  • 00:27:14.111 --> 00:27:16.914
  • and a subject that weall need to talk about
  • 00:27:16.914 --> 00:27:19.583
  • that we all needto become a part of
  • 00:27:19.583 --> 00:27:22.319
  • is really helping peoplethat are locked up in prison.
  • 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.456
  • I was one of those people,
  • 00:27:25.456 --> 00:27:27.391
  • I did 11 months in theFlorida state prison
  • 00:27:27.391 --> 00:27:29.626
  • because of addiction.
  • 00:27:29.626 --> 00:27:31.095
  • What happens is peopleforget about people,
  • 00:27:31.095 --> 00:27:34.198
  • and a lot of it hadto do with my color
  • 00:27:34.198 --> 00:27:36.667
  • being in Tampa Florida,I didn't have to do it,
  • 00:27:36.667 --> 00:27:39.036
  • I had a problem, and I thinkthat's what's happening
  • 00:27:39.036 --> 00:27:41.872
  • to so many prisoners,
  • 00:27:41.872 --> 00:27:43.440
  • and when I go behindthe gate of the prison
  • 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.844
  • and see the prisoners,
  • 00:27:46.844 --> 00:27:48.512
  • and I just understandwho they are
  • 00:27:48.512 --> 00:27:51.448
  • and I have such a great bondand relationship with them
  • 00:27:51.448 --> 00:27:55.052
  • because my own personalexperience of dealing with that,
  • 00:27:55.052 --> 00:28:00.057
  • and what we forget about themis that they are human beings.
  • 00:28:01.525 --> 00:28:04.027
  • You don't, you don't judge them.
  • 00:28:04.027 --> 00:28:06.296
  • Something has happenedin their life,
  • 00:28:06.296 --> 00:28:08.465
  • that brought about a dysfunction
  • 00:28:08.465 --> 00:28:10.200
  • and a brokenness inside of them.
  • 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.070
  • Lawlessness bringsabout brokennes
  • 00:28:13.070 --> 00:28:15.139
  • it brings a brokengeneration of people.
  • 00:28:15.139 --> 00:28:18.308
  • And I think in oursociety, we have that today
  • 00:28:18.308 --> 00:28:20.944
  • and I think as, asleaders and believers,
  • 00:28:20.944 --> 00:28:23.413
  • we need to have the voicethat God has given us
  • 00:28:23.413 --> 00:28:26.884
  • to be able to goinside the prisons
  • 00:28:26.884 --> 00:28:29.153
  • and be able to encouragepeople and help them.
  • 00:28:29.153 --> 00:28:32.055
  • - Understand thatthey're not a mistake,
  • 00:28:33.157 --> 00:28:34.091
  • we have all fallen short.
  • 00:28:34.091 --> 00:28:36.093
  • If God came back now so manyof us will be left behind,
  • 00:28:36.093 --> 00:28:39.530
  • and we don't everthink about that.
  • 00:28:39.530 --> 00:28:41.331
  • We think about the peoplethat are behind the wall,
  • 00:28:41.331 --> 00:28:44.334
  • that they are no good.
  • 00:28:44.334 --> 00:28:45.702
  • That's not the case.
  • 00:28:45.702 --> 00:28:47.004
  • They have had some typeof dysfunction trauma
  • 00:28:47.004 --> 00:28:49.740
  • in their life for a long time
  • 00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:50.974
  • that has led them tosome kind of behavior.
  • 00:28:50.974 --> 00:28:53.510
  • And the thing about itis you find so many guys
  • 00:28:53.510 --> 00:28:57.748
  • that are locked up thatare highly educated.
  • 00:28:57.748 --> 00:29:00.751
  • They just made bad decisions.
  • 00:29:00.751 --> 00:29:02.686
  • And we're sitting in atime today with Coronavirus
  • 00:29:02.686 --> 00:29:06.456
  • where most peoplehave talked about
  • 00:29:06.456 --> 00:29:09.226
  • the situations behind the gates
  • 00:29:09.226 --> 00:29:10.761
  • of people living ontop of each other
  • 00:29:10.761 --> 00:29:12.563
  • and the suffering,the suffering that
  • 00:29:12.563 --> 00:29:14.698
  • they have to go through.
  • 00:29:14.698 --> 00:29:16.333
  • That's not who we are.
  • 00:29:16.333 --> 00:29:17.501
  • That's not who we should be.
  • 00:29:17.501 --> 00:29:19.036
  • We can't we can't sit here
  • 00:29:19.036 --> 00:29:21.238
  • and expect the governmentto make the change.
  • 00:29:21.238 --> 00:29:23.607
  • The government isnot the change.
  • 00:29:23.607 --> 00:29:25.509
  • It's the body of Christthat is the change.
  • 00:29:25.509 --> 00:29:27.644
  • We need to speak louder.
  • 00:29:27.644 --> 00:29:28.979
  • We need to get into action.
  • 00:29:28.979 --> 00:29:30.547
  • Leaders and pastorswe need to know
  • 00:29:30.547 --> 00:29:32.883
  • to send people behind thegates to work with people.
  • 00:29:32.883 --> 00:29:35.252
  • Yes, most of our youngAfrican American have been
  • 00:29:35.252 --> 00:29:38.088
  • in prison for a long time.
  • 00:29:38.088 --> 00:29:39.857
  • They get along since, theystart off early, the age of 15.
  • 00:29:39.857 --> 00:29:43.260
  • I met so many guys that startedoff 15 and they did a crime
  • 00:29:43.260 --> 00:29:47.698
  • and has already spent 30years and never get a chance
  • 00:29:47.698 --> 00:29:50.901
  • and the opportunity, asecond chance for life.
  • 00:29:50.901 --> 00:29:53.270
  • The prison needs to havesome kind of programs
  • 00:29:53.270 --> 00:29:55.706
  • where they're moreabout rehabilitation,
  • 00:29:55.706 --> 00:29:58.208
  • restoring people back to life,
  • 00:29:58.208 --> 00:29:59.977
  • because we leave them there
  • 00:29:59.977 --> 00:30:01.845
  • and we make their lifebecomes completely empty
  • 00:30:01.845 --> 00:30:04.915
  • for the rest of their life.
  • 00:30:04.915 --> 00:30:06.250
  • And that's not who they are,
  • 00:30:06.250 --> 00:30:08.452
  • they've made mistakesjust like all
  • 00:30:08.452 --> 00:30:10.053
  • of us have mademistakes out here.
  • 00:30:10.053 --> 00:30:11.955
  • And if we can getthe body of Christ
  • 00:30:11.955 --> 00:30:15.058
  • to be able to bea voice and speak
  • 00:30:15.058 --> 00:30:19.096
  • on behalf of prisoners,
  • 00:30:19.096 --> 00:30:21.498
  • I think we can make achange in our society.
  • 00:30:21.498 --> 00:30:24.568
  • But if we just sitback and we say that
  • 00:30:24.568 --> 00:30:27.104
  • that's their problem,we will never change.
  • 00:30:27.104 --> 00:30:30.007
  • the society will never change.
  • 00:30:30.007 --> 00:30:31.408
  • We will still be seeingthe same racial problems
  • 00:30:31.408 --> 00:30:33.810
  • that we're seeing right now.
  • 00:30:33.810 --> 00:30:35.312
  • And, COVID-19 has really putprisoners in a bad place.
  • 00:30:35.312 --> 00:30:39.917
  • Like most of you guys said,they have nowhere to go.
  • 00:30:41.318 --> 00:30:44.521
  • I've been in theseprisons myself
  • 00:30:44.521 --> 00:30:46.456
  • and I've seen these cells andvisit these guys in there,
  • 00:30:46.456 --> 00:30:49.559
  • they're right ontop of each other.
  • 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.595
  • And as you can imagine,
  • 00:30:51.595 --> 00:30:53.297
  • two guys, big guysliving in one cell
  • 00:30:53.297 --> 00:30:55.399
  • when it's hot in the summer
  • 00:30:55.399 --> 00:30:56.867
  • and there's nowhere to turnto, and the frustration
  • 00:30:56.867 --> 00:30:59.903
  • and the anxiety thatgoes through them
  • 00:30:59.903 --> 00:31:01.838
  • and how can you expectthem to be able to be well?
  • 00:31:01.838 --> 00:31:04.841
  • You can't be wellunder those conditions.
  • 00:31:04.841 --> 00:31:07.444
  • Yeah, of course, we knowthey have done something.
  • 00:31:07.444 --> 00:31:10.948
  • But that doesn't meanthat the condition
  • 00:31:10.948 --> 00:31:12.883
  • of the their situationshouldn't be able to change.
  • 00:31:12.883 --> 00:31:16.520
  • It should be able tochange for the better.
  • 00:31:16.520 --> 00:31:19.389
  • And it shouldn't be wherethey are allowing them
  • 00:31:19.389 --> 00:31:21.959
  • to suffer like they are.
  • 00:31:21.959 --> 00:31:24.127
  • - I wanna go toCommissioner Burl Cain
  • 00:31:24.127 --> 00:31:26.430
  • who also addressed this issue.
  • 00:31:26.430 --> 00:31:28.598
  • - [Cain] The mentalityis that we need
  • 00:31:30.434 --> 00:31:31.735
  • to let go prisoners suffer.
  • 00:31:31.735 --> 00:31:33.637
  • And to just leave themalone is counterproductive
  • 00:31:33.637 --> 00:31:36.740
  • when it comes to corrections.
  • 00:31:36.740 --> 00:31:38.475
  • Corrections means,correct deviant behavior.
  • 00:31:38.475 --> 00:31:42.245
  • It does not mean, lock andfeed, torture and torment.
  • 00:31:42.245 --> 00:31:47.050
  • What people miss,
  • 00:31:47.050 --> 00:31:48.285
  • that we caught withGod's grace at Angola
  • 00:31:48.285 --> 00:31:51.488
  • and what changed Angola.
  • 00:31:51.488 --> 00:31:53.390
  • What we realized thegreatest resource we had
  • 00:31:53.390 --> 00:31:56.126
  • in the prison was theprisoners themselves.
  • 00:31:56.126 --> 00:31:58.996
  • That's part of rehabilitation,
  • 00:31:58.996 --> 00:32:00.697
  • so we have an inmate, a moralinmate leading other inmates
  • 00:32:00.697 --> 00:32:03.967
  • to morality.
  • 00:32:03.967 --> 00:32:05.135
  • We have a safer prison
  • 00:32:05.135 --> 00:32:06.403
  • and we're changing our cult
  • 00:32:06.403 --> 00:32:07.838
  • and having more rehabilitation.
  • 00:32:07.838 --> 00:32:09.673
  • I just hired adirector of chaplains
  • 00:32:09.673 --> 00:32:11.775
  • for MississippiState Penitentiary.
  • 00:32:11.775 --> 00:32:14.211
  • He is a graduate
  • 00:32:14.211 --> 00:32:15.645
  • of the New Orleans BaptistTheological Seminary
  • 00:32:15.645 --> 00:32:17.681
  • that we're doing athis last term at Angola
  • 00:32:17.681 --> 00:32:19.950
  • As a juvenile naffer,he's on parole,
  • 00:32:19.950 --> 00:32:22.753
  • he has now moved to Mississippi
  • 00:32:22.753 --> 00:32:24.788
  • and he's gonna beour head chaplain.
  • 00:32:24.788 --> 00:32:26.923
  • What better chaplainthan one of their own.
  • 00:32:26.923 --> 00:32:29.026
  • - If you're just joining us,
  • 00:32:30.360 --> 00:32:31.895
  • we're Talking aboutCOVID-19 behind bars.
  • 00:32:31.895 --> 00:32:35.332
  • I want to talk to you C.J.you've been in and out
  • 00:32:35.332 --> 00:32:37.934
  • of prisons and doneconcerts for some.
  • 00:32:37.934 --> 00:32:41.605
  • You could tell stories forthe entire hour I'm sure.
  • 00:32:41.605 --> 00:32:45.675
  • But share with usjust for a few minutes
  • 00:32:45.675 --> 00:32:48.779
  • some of your experienceand solutions
  • 00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:51.448
  • that you believe can be helpful.
  • 00:32:51.448 --> 00:32:54.418
  • - Well, thank youso much Clifton forhaving me here today.
  • 00:32:54.418 --> 00:32:58.288
  • I love being a partof this discussion.
  • 00:32:58.288 --> 00:33:00.857
  • And I have received reportsof the fear the devastation
  • 00:33:00.857 --> 00:33:05.862
  • and the concern, theoverwhelming concern,
  • 00:33:07.030 --> 00:33:09.199
  • as everybody hasalready said before me,
  • 00:33:09.199 --> 00:33:11.401
  • they have limited space,
  • 00:33:11.401 --> 00:33:13.637
  • they have limitedmedical supplies.
  • 00:33:13.637 --> 00:33:16.239
  • I have to let you know
  • 00:33:16.239 --> 00:33:17.441
  • I've also received otherpowerful testimonies
  • 00:33:17.441 --> 00:33:20.944
  • about what God is doingin the prisons right now.
  • 00:33:20.944 --> 00:33:23.980
  • It seems likethroughout history,
  • 00:33:23.980 --> 00:33:25.782
  • if we read the Old Testament,we read the New Testament,
  • 00:33:25.782 --> 00:33:29.086
  • During some of themost crucial times,
  • 00:33:29.086 --> 00:33:31.321
  • some of the most devastatingtimes that humanity has seen
  • 00:33:31.321 --> 00:33:36.126
  • that's when the bodyof Christ rises up
  • 00:33:36.126 --> 00:33:38.795
  • and then rise to the challenge.
  • 00:33:38.795 --> 00:33:41.198
  • And I'm reminded of thatscripture that says,
  • 00:33:41.198 --> 00:33:42.999
  • "when the enemy comesin like a flood,
  • 00:33:42.999 --> 00:33:45.902
  • "the Lord will raise upa standard against it."
  • 00:33:45.902 --> 00:33:48.805
  • And I'm so blessed to haveheard recently that in
  • 00:33:48.805 --> 00:33:53.810
  • some of these places insome of the prisons that
  • 00:33:55.011 --> 00:33:58.115
  • have experienced somedeath and some destruction,
  • 00:33:58.115 --> 00:34:01.251
  • there has been a demand placed
  • 00:34:01.251 --> 00:34:04.187
  • because the chaplains areeven limited on their exposure
  • 00:34:04.187 --> 00:34:08.892
  • and their contactto the inmates.
  • 00:34:08.892 --> 00:34:11.495
  • It's like thepresence of the Lord,
  • 00:34:11.495 --> 00:34:13.430
  • the anointing of the Lordthat is on the inmates,
  • 00:34:13.430 --> 00:34:16.600
  • has helped them riseto the challenge,
  • 00:34:16.600 --> 00:34:19.069
  • and I've heard many say that,
  • 00:34:19.069 --> 00:34:21.605
  • they have had inmates nowstarting Bible studies
  • 00:34:21.605 --> 00:34:25.509
  • in their cellblocks.
  • 00:34:25.509 --> 00:34:27.844
  • Men coming to Jesus and women'sfacilities as well asking
  • 00:34:27.844 --> 00:34:31.448
  • for the bible, askingfor Christian materials
  • 00:34:31.448 --> 00:34:34.217
  • because they want to knowmore about this Jesus that
  • 00:34:34.217 --> 00:34:36.720
  • they heard about whenthey were children
  • 00:34:36.720 --> 00:34:38.522
  • through other people'slives, the stories,
  • 00:34:38.522 --> 00:34:40.557
  • the prayers oftheir grandparents,
  • 00:34:40.557 --> 00:34:42.025
  • their mothers, their dads.
  • 00:34:42.025 --> 00:34:44.194
  • One thing we cannotforget about is the power
  • 00:34:44.194 --> 00:34:47.397
  • of the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:34:47.397 --> 00:34:48.965
  • Every knee has to bowto the name of Jesus.
  • 00:34:48.965 --> 00:34:52.002
  • COVID-19 has to bow itsknees to the name of Jesus.
  • 00:34:52.002 --> 00:34:55.172
  • And I don't know about you guys,
  • 00:34:55.172 --> 00:34:57.107
  • but I'm convinced thatthe power of the Spirit
  • 00:34:57.107 --> 00:35:00.510
  • is the dominating factorin this world today.
  • 00:35:00.510 --> 00:35:03.413
  • Sometimes it feelslike the church
  • 00:35:03.413 --> 00:35:05.048
  • is getting beat up and battered.
  • 00:35:05.048 --> 00:35:06.683
  • But I'll tell you what,we're coming out strong.
  • 00:35:06.683 --> 00:35:09.019
  • And I believe that the Lordwill have the last word.
  • 00:35:09.019 --> 00:35:12.856
  • And I've said it for years
  • 00:35:12.856 --> 00:35:14.724
  • that I believe America'schampions are coming out
  • 00:35:14.724 --> 00:35:17.027
  • of the prisons.
  • 00:35:17.027 --> 00:35:18.495
  • I know many of them have beensentenced to life inside.
  • 00:35:18.495 --> 00:35:21.798
  • And that does notstop their gift
  • 00:35:21.798 --> 00:35:24.134
  • from operatingright where they are
  • 00:35:24.134 --> 00:35:26.303
  • the power of God on a man's life
  • 00:35:26.303 --> 00:35:28.305
  • on a woman's life has nodesignation to zip code.
  • 00:35:28.305 --> 00:35:33.009
  • We don't just operatein the anointing of God
  • 00:35:33.009 --> 00:35:35.879
  • on the outside of prison.
  • 00:35:35.879 --> 00:35:37.247
  • I've seen it with my own eyes.
  • 00:35:37.247 --> 00:35:38.715
  • I've heard some of the mostpowerful Bible teachers
  • 00:35:38.715 --> 00:35:41.751
  • in my life behind thewalls coming from inmates.
  • 00:35:41.751 --> 00:35:45.589
  • There's fear yes,there's concern.
  • 00:35:45.589 --> 00:35:47.557
  • But we cannot forget thename that is above all names,
  • 00:35:47.557 --> 00:35:52.562
  • the name of Jesus
  • 00:35:53.296 --> 00:35:54.231
  • and the power of the Holy Spirit
  • 00:35:54.231 --> 00:35:55.632
  • that is definitely in operation.
  • 00:35:55.632 --> 00:35:57.734
  • In one of thefacilities I've heard
  • 00:35:57.734 --> 00:35:59.869
  • they have distributedthousands of books
  • 00:35:59.869 --> 00:36:02.105
  • at the request of the inmates
  • 00:36:02.105 --> 00:36:04.107
  • and inmates pressinginto the power of Jesus
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  • and getting to know himmore or asking questions
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  • and sending messages,
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  • "I wanna talk to the chaplainas soon as he can get to me."
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  • The perspective of myheart today is that
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  • we would neverforget how powerful
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  • and how necessary it isfor us to always remember.
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  • If it comes on your heartanyone watching right now,
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  • please pray for ourbrothers and sisters
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  • that are doing time.
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  • They're asking for your prayers.
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  • They're asking for us asthe church on the outside
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  • to not forget about them.
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  • That subject is veryclose to my heart
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  • because the Lord talksso much about prison
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  • and he says, "I was there
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  • and you came and youministered to me,
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  • you spoke life to me
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  • you came and visited."
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  • So if the Lord putsit on your heart,
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  • please mention yourloved ones names,
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  • pray for the inmates thatare doing time at large
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  • that there would be arevival in this time,
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  • that it wouldn'tjust be devastation
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  • because that's the opportunity
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  • for the Holy Spiritto really shine.
  • 00:37:04.067 --> 00:37:06.436
  • - C.J. tell me a fewstatistics about TBN
  • 00:37:06.436 --> 00:37:10.473
  • and 2NDCHANCE ministry.
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  • - [C.J.] In TBN's historywith TBN2NDCHANCE,
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  • they have been installingsatellite systems
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  • in prisons across America
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  • for the last 13 yearsor so since since 2007.
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  • And about half of thenation has been installed
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  • with TBN's equipment.
  • 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:30.927
  • So nobody has to pay for that,
  • 00:37:31.861 --> 00:37:33.296
  • that is a gift from TBN
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  • and it's partners acrossAmerica around the world
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  • that believe in prison ministry.
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  • And when a prisonhas that installed,
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  • they have access tofour different networks
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  • that is preaching the gospel
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  • of Jesus Christ 24 hoursa day, seven days a week.
  • 00:37:48.378 --> 00:37:51.548
  • - Let's take a minute and pray.
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  • I wanna ask GeorgiaHorton if she would pray
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  • for the prisoners who areincarcerated right now.
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  • And particularly for those whoare suffering with COVID-19.
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  • Would you pray, Georgia?
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  • - Father God, wethank you today.
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  • Father God, weknow that this time
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  • has been designated for you.
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  • Father God we knowthat this time
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  • has been set aside byyour spirit Father God.
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  • We thank you for everybodyFather God that is involved
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  • in this TV's viewing right now.
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  • But Father God, we'regathered Father God
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  • on behalf of the prisoners.
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  • Father God we have gatheredtoday behind the cries
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  • of the millions ofprisoners around the world
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  • that are crying outbehind this COVID-19
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  • that are suffering Father God,
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  • behind this COVID-19 Father God.
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  • And we know Lord Jesus thateven though Father God,
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  • we personally cannot be there.
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  • Your Spirit Father God,
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  • your Holy Spirit isnot limited Father God,
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  • by anything Father God,
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  • not by faces, Father God,
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  • not by hands Father God,
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  • your spirit can goright now Father God
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  • and touch, everyinmate that's there.
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  • So Father God inthe name of Jesus,
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  • we're asking you, Lord,
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  • that you will go inbehind every wall,
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  • every prison, touchevery inmate Father God
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  • where they're at rightnow Father God, comfort.
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  • We break the spiritof suicide right now.
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  • We break the spirit ofdepression Father God,
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  • We break the spirit ofloneliness, Father God,
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  • We break the spiritof fear Father God,
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  • in the name ofJesus, Father God.
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  • We ask Lord Jesus thatyour spirit Father God
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  • would just embracethem right now.
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  • Your Holy Spirit Lord Jesus,
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  • let them know Father God thatthey're not alone Father God,
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  • let them know FatherGod that there have you
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  • as close as the mentionof your name Father God.
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  • Let them know Father God,
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  • that they can just sayyour name Father God
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  • that your name aloneis a strong tower.
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  • And that they can run inand be safe Father God.
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  • let them know FatherGod that even though
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  • they can't do the six feet,
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  • Father God that youcan do it Father God
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  • that you can to wrap yourpresence around them Father God
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  • and protect them FatherGod in the name of Jesus.
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  • Father God let them knowthat they're not forgotten
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  • and they're notalone Father God.
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  • Strengthen theirinward man Father God
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  • and let them know eventhis too shall pass.
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  • Even this too Father God.
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  • Lord Jesus I ask Father God,
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  • for those Father Godthat do not know you.
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  • Father God, let them knowFather God that you're there too
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  • that while we were yet sinnersFather God, you died for us.
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  • Let them know FatherGod during this time
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  • that they can reach out to you
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  • and that you will come to them
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  • and meet them right there,
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  • that you're not arespecter of persons.
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  • That we all have sinned
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  • and fallen shortof your glory Lord.
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  • And there's none right,there's no not one.
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  • Lord we thank you Lord.
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  • And for those that arebelievers Father God,
  • 00:40:48.224 --> 00:40:50.059
  • increase their faith.
  • 00:40:50.059 --> 00:40:51.828
  • Father God, you said,
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  • "We have faith as thegrain of a mustard seed.
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  • We can speak and askand it shall be done."
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  • Lord, we justthank you right now
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  • because we know thatyou're moving right now,
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  • even as we speak, FatherGod, we know Lord Jesus.
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  • Father, we thank you Lord,
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  • and we not only pray forthe prisoners Father God.
  • 00:41:08.044 --> 00:41:10.313
  • We pray for thestaff, the chaplaincy,
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  • the families, Father God.
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  • Everybody that's beenaffected Father God
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  • behind the prisoners Lord
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  • would you strengthen them,
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  • Would you encourage them.
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  • Father God, wouldyou comfort them.
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  • Would you move Father God.
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  • We thank You, Lord,
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  • because we know that we servea God that not only hears,
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  • but we serve a God that answers
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  • and most of all, He'sconcerned about us.
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  • We thank you, Lord.
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  • Father God I ask thisnot by might father,
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  • nor by power lord,but by your spirit.
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  • In Jesus name we pray Father.
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  • Amen.
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  • - In Jesus name,
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  • Amen.- Amen.
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  • - Well, that was amazing.
  • 00:41:48.785 --> 00:41:50.620
  • And I believe God iscertainly on the move.
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  • He was on the move beforebut even more so now.
  • 00:41:53.923 --> 00:41:57.327
  • In the next segmentof this broadcast,
  • 00:41:57.327 --> 00:41:59.495
  • we wanna talk about those issues
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  • that encourage the prisoners,that give them hope.
  • 00:42:01.931 --> 00:42:05.735
  • And we're gonna bring certainanswers from scripture
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  • to help the prisoners behindthe bar with COVID-19.
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  • We'll be right back.
  • 00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:15.545
  • (metallic music)
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  • - [Panel member] Don't keepplaying the video in your head
  • 00:42:18.748 --> 00:42:20.783
  • about what you did,
  • 00:42:20.783 --> 00:42:22.251
  • but let that video die.
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  • Cancel it, renew your mind.
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  • - Your father loves you.
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  • He's with you.
  • 00:42:29.492 --> 00:42:30.760
  • He said, even if youmade your bed in hell
  • 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:33.129
  • he would be there with you.
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  • - [Clifton] Andthat means he'll be
  • 00:42:34.831 --> 00:42:35.865
  • with you behind bars as well.
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  • Just because you're locked up,
  • 00:42:38.468 --> 00:42:39.936
  • doesn't mean Christcan't come in.
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  • - I have beenincarcerated for 22 years.
  • 00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:45.908
  • I was angry and fullof a lot of emotions,
  • 00:42:45.908 --> 00:42:47.810
  • different emotions.
  • 00:42:47.810 --> 00:42:49.045
  • That's why TBN isso important to me.
  • 00:42:49.045 --> 00:42:52.015
  • - [Announcer] Yearsof prisoners lives
  • 00:42:52.015 --> 00:42:53.583
  • are spent alone behind bars,
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  • leaving prisoners year afteryear in anger and despair
  • 00:42:56.019 --> 00:42:59.889
  • with no one to speaklife into their lives.
  • 00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:02.525
  • - I just kept my TV on TBN,
  • 00:43:03.459 --> 00:43:05.762
  • It was like manna to me,
  • 00:43:05.762 --> 00:43:08.364
  • it was food from heaven.
  • 00:43:08.364 --> 00:43:10.400
  • - It's a good vehicleto hear the word of God
  • 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.735
  • through the TV.
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  • And the first two hoursof my day have to be spent
  • 00:43:14.237 --> 00:43:16.439
  • on my knees.
  • 00:43:16.439 --> 00:43:17.273
  • If I don't have thatconnection with Jesus Christ,
  • 00:43:18.574 --> 00:43:20.877
  • I can't make it in here.
  • 00:43:20.877 --> 00:43:23.379
  • - When people areliving their faith,
  • 00:43:23.379 --> 00:43:25.214
  • it encourages people likeme to live my faith too
  • 00:43:25.214 --> 00:43:30.219
  • - To have a program called--
  • 00:43:31.087 --> 00:43:31.788
  • - A second chance that'sgeared in to us as new life
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  • and as hope.
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  • (upbeat music)
  • 00:43:38.194 --> 00:43:40.396
  • - Two of thestories in the Bible
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  • that really touch my heart
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  • and that I love to preach on.
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  • I'm not gonna preachon them tonight,
  • 00:43:54.711 --> 00:43:57.046
  • but I think it's very important
  • 00:43:57.046 --> 00:43:58.948
  • that we note thatthere is scripture
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  • that says prayer inprison is powerful.
  • 00:44:01.417 --> 00:44:05.621
  • And here's one in Acts 12:5.
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  • It says, "Peter wastherefore kept in prison,
  • 00:44:08.057 --> 00:44:11.427
  • "but a constant prayerwas offered to God for him
  • 00:44:11.427 --> 00:44:16.399
  • "by the church."
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  • That's what we'regetting ready to do.
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  • We know whathappened with Peter.
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  • Not only did the prayerswork and angel came
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  • and his chainsdropped off of him
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  • and he walked out ofthe prison a free man.
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  • Paul experienced somethinglike that as well.
  • 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.750
  • And it says, "Paul atmidnight, Paul and Silas prayed
  • 00:44:33.750 --> 00:44:38.321
  • "and they sang praises unto God
  • 00:44:38.321 --> 00:44:40.389
  • "and the prisoners heard them
  • 00:44:40.389 --> 00:44:41.724
  • "and suddenly therewas a great earthquake
  • 00:44:41.724 --> 00:44:43.826
  • "so that the foundationsof the prison were shaken
  • 00:44:43.826 --> 00:44:46.562
  • "and immediately allthe doors were open
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  • "and everyone'sbands were loosed."
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  • What am I saying?
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  • I'm saying that prayer has thepower to liberate prisoners.
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  • It may not let them outthe doors of the prison,
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  • but it'll let them out the doors
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  • of the prison and hell
  • 00:45:02.245 --> 00:45:03.746
  • that they've been goingthrough emotionally
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  • and in their minds.
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  • Prayer helps to setthem free and God
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  • is in the prayer.
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  • I gonna go to Tina Naidoo
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  • and have you give us a wordof encouragement and prayer.
  • 00:45:16.526 --> 00:45:20.363
  • - As you're sitting there today
  • 00:45:22.665 --> 00:45:24.600
  • and you're listening to us
  • 00:45:24.600 --> 00:45:26.202
  • and you may be thinking,
  • 00:45:26.202 --> 00:45:27.804
  • how do you knowwhat I'm feeling?
  • 00:45:29.005 --> 00:45:31.040
  • How do you know whatI'm going through?
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  • And what I wantyou to know is that
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  • you have a father inheaven who is moved
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  • by your infirmities.
  • 00:45:39.749 --> 00:45:41.284
  • He's moved with compassion,
  • 00:45:41.284 --> 00:45:43.786
  • for the things thatare ailing you,
  • 00:45:43.786 --> 00:45:45.454
  • that are hurting you,
  • 00:45:45.454 --> 00:45:46.355
  • that are bothering you.
  • 00:45:46.355 --> 00:45:48.391
  • You are not in this alone.
  • 00:45:48.391 --> 00:45:50.059
  • And that's what I wantyou to hear me say
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  • that you have an armyof people behind you
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  • that are praying for you
  • 00:45:54.564 --> 00:45:56.199
  • in the free worldthat are loving you,
  • 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.267
  • that are lifting youup before the father.
  • 00:45:58.267 --> 00:46:00.770
  • But even as you're sittingthere, I want you to hear me say
  • 00:46:00.770 --> 00:46:04.273
  • that your father loves you.
  • 00:46:04.273 --> 00:46:06.075
  • You were fearfullyand wonderfully made.
  • 00:46:06.075 --> 00:46:08.611
  • You are a designer's original.
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  • You're one of a kind,
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  • no one else can be bornin this world to be you.
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  • And you have a purpose.
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  • And despite where yourjourney has taken you,
  • 00:46:16.385 --> 00:46:18.888
  • none of this hassurprised our father.
  • 00:46:18.888 --> 00:46:21.424
  • And so just as he has countedevery hair in our head,
  • 00:46:21.424 --> 00:46:24.994
  • he has it numbered.
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  • And that's how importantyou are to him.
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  • I want you to me todaythat your father loves you.
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  • He's with you.
  • 00:46:33.970 --> 00:46:35.204
  • He said, even if youmade your bed in hell,
  • 00:46:35.204 --> 00:46:37.740
  • he would be there with you.
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  • So today, as we we cometogether to pray for you
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  • and to encourage you.
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  • We know that prayer is powerful.
  • 00:46:45.748 --> 00:46:48.484
  • We know that the Godwe serve is bigger
  • 00:46:48.484 --> 00:46:51.153
  • than this COVID, this disease.
  • 00:46:51.153 --> 00:46:53.789
  • We know that he's almighty,
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  • we know that he knows yourend from your beginning.
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  • And so, as we continueto pray for you
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  • and lift you upbefore the father,
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  • we want you to knowthat you're not alone,
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  • that we're in this with you,
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  • we're praying for you
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  • and we need you, we need you.
  • 00:47:08.938 --> 00:47:11.374
  • - Judge Madlean, would youshare a word of encouragement?
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  • - Yes, I want youto know each of you
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  • that you were bornwith a purpose
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  • and you are not onthis earth by mistake,
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  • but God allowed your birth,
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  • no matter how it came.
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  • From a single mother,
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  • from a family ofmother and father,
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  • from a drunkard mother,
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  • from a whorish mother,
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  • no matter what your beginnings,
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  • God had a plan and apurpose for your life.
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  • As a matter of fact, he knew
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  • what you were going to do
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  • and what you weregoing to become
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  • - Yes- in your mother's womb.
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  • Before you even came out,
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  • he saw you, he knew you,he made you for a purpose
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  • and his purpose was to servehim and to bring him glory.
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  • And you have thepower to do that,
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  • even in your prison cell.
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  • And the way you do that
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  • is not coming outnecessarily of those gates,
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  • but being transformed
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  • and renewed in your mind.
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  • Let your mind be renewed.
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  • Begin to think on thethings that are lovely,
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  • think on thosethings that are pure,
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  • think on those thingsthat are a good report.
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  • Forgive yourself,confess your sin.
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  • Stop sitting there in prison
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  • or in the jailsaying I'm innocent.
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  • If you know what you've done
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  • and you did infact commit a crime
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  • and you recognize and know that,
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  • confess your sins before God,
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  • because he promised thathe's faithful and just
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  • to forgive you of yoursins and to cleanse you
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  • from all unrighteousness.
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  • And then once heforgives your sins,
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  • he throws it out
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  • into the pit and henever comes back again.
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  • Don't keep playingthe video in your head
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  • about what you did,
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  • but let that videodie, cancel it.
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  • Renew your mind,
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  • renew your mind, ask Godto come into your heart,
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  • to forgive you of your sins,
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  • to cleanse you fromall in righteousness,
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  • to make you the man andthe woman that he designed
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  • and purpose you to be.
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  • And then walk in your purpose
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  • and do good, do good.
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  • You have somethingto offer America,
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  • you have something to offerthe world even from prison.
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  • You have a gift,
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  • you have a talent,
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  • you have the ability to do it.
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  • Now, be transformed
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  • and be renewed in your minds.
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  • God bless you.
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  • - Darryl Strawberry, sharea word with us, would you?
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  • - Amen, at first,
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  • I just wanna encouragethe guys and the women
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  • that are locked up in prison.
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  • I just want to encourage you
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  • that you wereperfectly made by God.
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  • There's a gift downon the inside of you
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  • that nobody cantake away from you.
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  • God has createdthat in everybody.
  • 00:50:09.485 --> 00:50:12.421
  • See the enemy comesto deceive you.
  • 00:50:12.421 --> 00:50:15.057
  • Jesus said in John 10:10,
  • 00:50:15.057 --> 00:50:17.793
  • "That the thief comes tosteal, kill and destroy.
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  • "But I have come thatyou may have life
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  • "and may have itmore abundantly."
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  • There's a greatabundant life in you
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  • when you understand it.
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  • The abundant life is peace, joy,
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  • wisdom, knowledge is fargreater than any stuff
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  • that you will everbe able to achieve
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  • in this lifetime.
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  • And for you right there
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  • in the midst of where you at.
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  • All you prisoners just knowthat God has a great plan
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  • for your life.
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  • You are not a mistake.
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  • We've just made abunch of mistakes.
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  • You gotta trust God,
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  • you gotta trustright Where you at,
  • 00:50:54.063 --> 00:50:56.398
  • you gotta pick up that Bible.
  • 00:50:56.398 --> 00:50:58.000
  • See the Bible says,
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  • "My people perish becauseof lack of knowledge."
  • 00:50:59.468 --> 00:51:02.538
  • It is the knowledgethat you need to get
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  • from the Word of God.
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  • It's not the knowledgefrom a worldly standpoint,
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  • but it's from abiblical standpoint
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  • it's from a kingdom standpoint.
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  • Trust God through your process.
  • 00:51:13.215 --> 00:51:15.818
  • Proverbs 3:5 and 6 says,
  • 00:51:15.818 --> 00:51:17.820
  • "Trust in the Lordwith all your heart.
  • 00:51:17.820 --> 00:51:20.222
  • "Lean not on yourown understandings,
  • 00:51:20.222 --> 00:51:22.725
  • "but in all yourways, acknowledge him.
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  • "And he shoulddirect your paths."
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  • He's got a path for you,
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  • no matter what the circumstances
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  • and the conditionsof your life is.
  • 00:51:31.767 --> 00:51:34.103
  • Everybody in theBible had issues.
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  • God wants youright where you at.
  • 00:51:37.006 --> 00:51:39.308
  • He's meeting you rightthere in that cell.
  • 00:51:39.308 --> 00:51:42.178
  • You get on your knees andyou call upon the Holy Spirit
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  • who would ascend up on you.
  • 00:51:46.148 --> 00:51:47.983
  • And he will teachyou at all things
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  • in remembrance of JesusChrist, our Lord and Savior.
  • 00:51:50.186 --> 00:51:54.390
  • And you will have thevictory right where you at,
  • 00:51:54.390 --> 00:51:57.326
  • you have an abundantlife waiting for you.
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  • Don't miss out, don't wait
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  • don't look to the right,
  • 00:52:02.064 --> 00:52:03.265
  • don't look to the left,
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  • don't look behind you.
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  • 2 Corinthians 5:17 says,
  • 00:52:05.834 --> 00:52:08.337
  • "Therefore, ifanyone's in Christ,
  • 00:52:08.337 --> 00:52:10.472
  • "he's a new creation.
  • 00:52:10.472 --> 00:52:11.840
  • "Old things have passed away,
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  • "behold, all thingshave come new."
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  • New things will come
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  • when you let go of the old.
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  • I pray that you willlet go of the old
  • 00:52:20.649 --> 00:52:23.285
  • and received the new,receive the gift of life.
  • 00:52:23.285 --> 00:52:27.289
  • And that's the abundantlife that you will have
  • 00:52:27.289 --> 00:52:29.825
  • that Jesus declared over you.
  • 00:52:29.825 --> 00:52:31.794
  • He will never leaveyou nor forsake you.
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  • Press in and follow Jesus
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  • all the way to the end.
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  • Love you guys, bless you guys.
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  • - Amen.
  • 00:52:41.971 --> 00:52:43.272
  • - C.J Orndorff.
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  • - Yes, sir.
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  • - Share a word of encouragementto those prisoners
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  • or hum a few bars.
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  • - Brothers and sisters,
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  • I'm so blessed
  • 00:52:52.414 --> 00:52:53.749
  • to be able to speakdirectly to you today
  • 00:52:53.749 --> 00:52:56.252
  • with this amazing panelof servants of God.
  • 00:52:56.252 --> 00:53:00.089
  • I just wanna letyou know that today
  • 00:53:00.089 --> 00:53:02.191
  • you're at the very heart of God
  • 00:53:02.191 --> 00:53:04.059
  • and you're at thecenter of his mind.
  • 00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:07.830
  • He has his hand on your life,
  • 00:53:07.830 --> 00:53:09.832
  • no matter what you feel,no matter what concern
  • 00:53:09.832 --> 00:53:13.469
  • or anxiety is on you right now,
  • 00:53:13.469 --> 00:53:15.437
  • don't forget who you are.
  • 00:53:15.437 --> 00:53:16.939
  • You are a son, a daughterof the most high.
  • 00:53:16.939 --> 00:53:19.942
  • And you cannotforget who you are.
  • 00:53:19.942 --> 00:53:23.646
  • Don't forget abouthow powerful he is
  • 00:53:23.646 --> 00:53:26.148
  • and that his name reignsSupreme against anything
  • 00:53:26.148 --> 00:53:29.451
  • that is trying to attack youright now, including fear.
  • 00:53:29.451 --> 00:53:32.488
  • So right now, Father Ijust thank you right now
  • 00:53:32.488 --> 00:53:34.390
  • for my brothers and sisters
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  • as they're doing time fromCalifornia to New York,
  • 00:53:35.891 --> 00:53:38.761
  • from Seattle to Miami
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  • and God everywhere in between.
  • 00:53:40.929 --> 00:53:42.564
  • And I pray right now
  • 00:53:42.564 --> 00:53:43.732
  • that you would bestrong in their hearts,
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  • be strong in their lives.
  • 00:53:46.135 --> 00:53:47.636
  • Father, may your word come tothe forefront of their mind
  • 00:53:47.636 --> 00:53:50.539
  • and to the heart oftheir being today
  • 00:53:50.539 --> 00:53:52.574
  • and let them realize thatthat is what we live for,
  • 00:53:52.574 --> 00:53:55.511
  • that's what keeps us founded
  • 00:53:55.511 --> 00:53:57.179
  • and that's whatkeeps us grounded
  • 00:53:57.179 --> 00:53:58.881
  • is your word, your presence,
  • 00:53:58.881 --> 00:54:01.216
  • and the words of life
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  • that you have speakingto us, right this moment.
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  • Father, thank you for this time.
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  • Bless my brothers andsisters from coast to coast,
  • 00:54:07.156 --> 00:54:10.459
  • keep them well, keep them strong
  • 00:54:10.459 --> 00:54:12.361
  • and keep them in thecenter of your will,
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  • which is being avoice for your kingdom
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  • in the name of Jesus.
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  • Blessings mybrothers and sisters.
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  • - Amen, amen.
  • 00:54:21.603 --> 00:54:23.005
  • Georgia you havecards for the kingdom,
  • 00:54:23.005 --> 00:54:26.475
  • cards for courage.
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  • Tell us about that andgive us a final word.
  • 00:54:28.377 --> 00:54:30.879
  • - First of all, I just wanna
  • 00:54:30.879 --> 00:54:32.748
  • just tell all the prisonersthat Jesus loves you
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  • and he's right there
  • 00:54:36.018 --> 00:54:37.386
  • and to the viewing audience,
  • 00:54:37.386 --> 00:54:39.455
  • since I've been out
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  • and this is my fourth year free,
  • 00:54:41.290 --> 00:54:43.092
  • I've did Christmas card drives.
  • 00:54:43.092 --> 00:54:45.260
  • And so where I reach outto everybody and ask them
  • 00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:47.796
  • will they bless the prisonerswith Christmas cards,
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  • because the holidaysis the hardest time.
  • 00:54:50.432 --> 00:54:52.568
  • But this year, I'm doingsomething different
  • 00:54:52.568 --> 00:54:54.803
  • and I'm asking for comfortcards for the COVID-19.
  • 00:54:54.803 --> 00:54:58.307
  • So you can go to mysocial media page,
  • 00:54:58.307 --> 00:55:00.909
  • my Facebook page and allthe information to be there.
  • 00:55:00.909 --> 00:55:03.412
  • But what we're doing is,
  • 00:55:03.412 --> 00:55:04.747
  • we're sending cardsof encouragement,
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  • cards of love andletting them know
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  • that we're not by themselves.
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  • So thank you so much.
  • 00:55:11.220 --> 00:55:12.454
  • - This has been a verypowerful show for me.
  • 00:55:13.789 --> 00:55:17.693
  • I've learned a great deal.
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  • I hope that you have too.
  • 00:55:19.928 --> 00:55:21.630
  • The promise is that,
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  • God loves us,
  • 00:55:25.401 --> 00:55:27.336
  • that Jesus loves us,
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  • that he will be with us evenuntil the end of the age.
  • 00:55:29.638 --> 00:55:34.543
  • And that means he'll be withyou behind bars as well,
  • 00:55:35.944 --> 00:55:39.348
  • just because you're locked up
  • 00:55:39.348 --> 00:55:40.849
  • doesn't mean Christcan't come in.
  • 00:55:40.849 --> 00:55:43.719
  • Open your heart,
  • 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.187
  • let him in
  • 00:55:45.187 --> 00:55:46.555
  • and he will dwell inside of you
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  • and transform who you are
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  • into what he wants you tobe, righteous, upright,
  • 00:55:51.727 --> 00:55:56.732
  • ready to get out of thatprison, healthy, alive,
  • 00:55:57.933 --> 00:56:02.104
  • and ready to serve the Lord.
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  • - Amen.
  • 00:56:04.473 --> 00:56:05.674
  • - Thank you TBNfor the opportunity
  • 00:56:05.674 --> 00:56:06.975
  • to talk about this subject today
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  • and thank you all over the world
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  • for watching, forlistening and for praying
  • 00:56:11.346 --> 00:56:14.650
  • for prisoners with COVID.
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