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Praise | Dr. Rick Rigsby | July 16, 2020

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  • ♪♪♪
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHTON PRAISE FROM DALLAS,
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  • INTERNATIONAL SPEAKER,VIRAL SENSATION, AND
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  • FORMER AWARD WINNINGJOURNALIST RICK RIGSBY.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • AND NOW MATT ANDLAURIE CROUCH.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: TODAY,THURSDAY, JULY 16, 2020.
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  • WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGHTHE YEAR, RICK.
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  • - DR. RIGSBY: AMAZING. AMAZING.
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  • - ALL RIGHT.
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  • DOCTOR RICK RIGSBY IS AFRIEND, AND I HAVE BEEN
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  • RIGSBIED ALLMORNING TODAY.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCHI LOVE IT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - I HAVE WATCHEDALL OF YOUR YOU TUBE VIDEOS.
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  • I HAVE SEEN --- AND WE'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE.
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  • - WE JUST GOT RIGSBIEDALL MORNING AND WE'RE IN
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  • A REALLY GOOD MOODBECAUSE OF THAT.
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  • [LAUGHTER] WE'REHERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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  • WELCOME TO PRAISE.
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  • TODAY IS GOING TOBE INSPIRATIONAL.
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  • TODAY -- IN SPITE OFWHATEVER IS GOING ON IN
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  • THE NEWS.
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  • WHATEVER IS HAPPENING ONTHE NEWS CHANNEL
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  • OVER THERE --- DOESN'T MATTER.
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  • - AND IT COULD BE ATOUGH SITUATION GOING ON,
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  • ALL I KNOW IS I'M SITTINGWITH RICK RIGSBY, AND THE
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  • WORLD IS RIGHT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - OKAY.
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  • SO RICK, FIRST OF ALL, I'DLIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY
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  • THAT YOU DID THIS ONELITTLE SPEECH ABOUT YOUR
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  • FATHER, ABOUT THEPRINCIPLES OF YOUR
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  • FATHER, THIRDGRADE DROP OUT
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  • THAT NOW HAS BEEN SEENHUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
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  • TIMES AROUND THE WORLD.
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  • THAT WAS THE IMPETUS FORME GETTING TO KNOW YOU.
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  • I PICKED UP MY PHONE,CALLED YOUR OFFICE, GOT
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  • YOUR SECRETARY AND SAID IWOULD LOVE AN OPPORTUNITY
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  • TO INTERVIEW RICK RIGSBY.
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  • OKAY.
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  • THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
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  • WELCOME BACK AND I WANTTO JUST START WITH WHAT
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  • DO YOU FEEL ON YOUR HEARTTO SAY IN THIS VERY
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  • UNIQUE SEASON THAT WEFIND OURSELVES IN HERE IN
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  • JULY 2020?
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  • - FIRST OF ALL, MATTAND LAURIE I LOVE EVERY
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  • OPPORTUNITY THATI'M WITH YOU BOTH.
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • - THANK YOU FORHAVING ME BACK.
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  • I REALLY APPRECIATE IT,AND WHEN YOU CALLED OUR
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  • OFFICE WE THOUGHT ITWAS A PRACTICAL JOKE.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - WE COULDN'T BELIEVEMATT WAS CALLING OUR OFFICE.
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  • - I WAS ON IT, SO --- TO YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS
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  • A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FORTHE CHURCH TO BE THE CHURCH.
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  • - YES.
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  • - THIS IS WHAT I MEAN.
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  • THE CHURCH SITS ON THEFRONT PORCH OF THIS
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  • WORLD, AND PEOPLE WHOWOULD NOT NORMALLY LISTEN
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  • ARE LISTENING TOEVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE
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  • TO SAY, AND THEY'REWATCHING EVERYTHING WE DO.
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  • LET'S DON'T MISSTHIS OPPORTUNITY.
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  • RALPH WALDO EMERSONSAID AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED
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  • IS AN OPPORTUNITY LOST.
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  • THIS IS A GREATOPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEM
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  • NEWS THAT IS COUNTERCULTURAL MEANING NEWS OF
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  • INCLUSION, NEWS OFCOMING TOGETHER, NEWS OF
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  • TREMENDOUS UNITY.
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  • MOST OF ALL, NEWS THATSIGNIFIES THAT WE ARE TO
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  • LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
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  • THIS IS A GREATOPPORTUNITY.
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  • YOU KNOW, I BELIEVETHAT IT'S IN TIMES OF
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  • UNCERTAINTY THAT WE CANSHINE THE BRIGHTEST FOR
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  • CHRIST BECAUSE IN TIMESOF CERTAINTY THERE'S A
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  • CERTAIN COMFORTABLENESS.
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  • THERE'S A REDUNDANCYTHAT POINTS TO
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  • PREDICTABLE RESULTS.
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  • AND THANK GOD FOR THAT.
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  • WE WANT SOME REDUNDANCY.
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  • WE WANT OUR AIRLINE PILOTSTO PRACTICE REDUNDANCY.
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  • - YES, WE DO.
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  • - HOWEVER IN UNEVENTIMES, WHEN THE TERRAIN
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  • IS UNEVEN, WHEN THE SLOPEIS SLIPPERY, WHEN WE'RE
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  • NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THENEXT STEP IS, WHEN WE'RE
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  • IN THE MIDDLE OF A GLOBALPANDEMIC AND RACIAL
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  • STRIFE ALL OVER THE WORLDTHOSE ARE TIMES I BELIEVE
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  • THAT IF WE ARE COURAGEOUSENOUGH TO FOLLOW THE
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  • TEACHINGS OF JESUS, WECAN REALLY SHINE FOR HIM.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • FIRST OF ALL, I JUSTREALLY LOVE YOU.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - I LOVE YOU,BROTHER MAN.
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  • - I JUST ENJOY THIS.
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  • I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONEHAS THE SAME SENSE THAT I
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  • DO, BUT RICK, JUST LOVEYOU AND ENJOYING THE TIME
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  • JUST SITTINGHERE WITH YOU. OKAY.
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  • WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THECAMERAS ON BACK IN THE
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  • GREEN ROOM BECAUSE WE'VEALREADY DONE A TV SHOW
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  • BACK IN THE GREEN ROOM.
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  • [LAUGHTER] WE'RE LATETO THE STUDIO BECAUSE
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  • WE'VE BEEN SITTINGBACK THERE CONDUCTING
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  • INTERVIEW NUMBER 1 BACKTHERE, BUT WE WERE
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  • TALKING ABOUT ELK ANDDEER AND COLORADO, AND WE
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  • WERE TALKING ABOUT COWBOYBOOTS AND RANCHES AND ALL.
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  • OKAY. SO YOU MADE A UNIQUESTATEMENT BACK THAT THE
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  • PROTESTS ARE THELANGUAGE OF THE UNHEARD.
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  • - YES. YEAH.
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  • - MARTIN LUTHER KING.
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  • - SO EXPOUND ONTHAT A LITTLE BIT.
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  • GIVE US SOME CONTEXT TO --- THE RIOTS.
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  • - WHAT YOU WERESAYING BACK THERE.
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  • - ABSOLUTELY.
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  • LAURIE, YOU'REABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
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  • THAT'S A QUOTE FROMMARTIN LUTHER KING SOME
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  • 60 YEARS AGO.
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  • MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIORAS WE ALL KNOW WAS AN
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  • ADVOCATE OF NONE VIOLENTCIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.
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  • HE WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOROF LOOTING AND RIOTING
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  • AND TEARINGDOWN PROPERTY.
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  • AND SO WHEN I REREAD THISQUOTE ABOUT A MONTH AGO,
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  • IT STRUCK ME.
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  • EVEN THOUGH HE WOULD NOTBE IN FAVOR OF IT, HE
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  • BEGGED THE QUESTION WHYWITH ONE SIMPLE STATEMENT.
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  • HE SAID THAT RIOTING IS THELANGUAGE OF THE UNHEARD.
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  • THE PRESUPPOSITIONIS ARE WE LISTENING?
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  • I WAS READING MARK 4EARLIER THIS MORNING.
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  • PROBABLY FIVE, SIX, SEVENTIMES, JESUS SAID LISTEN
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  • TO ME HE WHO HAS EARS.
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  • AND HE WASN'T TALKINGPHYSICAL EARS.
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  • HE WHO HAS EARS,LET HIM HEAR.
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  • SO IT'S EASY TO POINTFINGERS, ISN'T IT?
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  • I EVEN FOUND MYSELFPOINTING FINGERS.
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  • IT'S EASY TO POINTFINGERS AND SAY, WHAT ARE
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  • THEY DOING?
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  • AND HERE YOU HAVE ACIVIL RIGHTS LEADER, AN
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  • ADVOCATE FOR PEACE IS,THE DEBUTANTE OF PEACE
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  • SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • THERE'S A LANGUAGE HERETHAT WE SHOULDN'T IGNORE.
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  • AND I THINK THAT'S AVERY POWERFUL STATEMENT.
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  • IT'S NOT A CONTRADICTION.
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  • IT'S A VERY POWERFULSTATEMENT THAT SAYS HE
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  • WHO HAS EARS LET HIM HEARWHAT THE SPIRIT OF THE
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  • LORD IS SAYING.
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  • NOW, MAKE NOMISTAKE ABOUT IT.
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  • I'M NOT SAYING THAT THESPIRIT OF THE LORD IS
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  • SAYING RIOTING.
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  • ALL EVIDENCE TOTHE CONTRARY.
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  • BUT WHAT THE SPIRIT OFTHE LORD MAY BE SAYING IS
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  • THIS, ARE WE A LITTLE BITTOO QUICK TO SPEAK AND A
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  • LITTLE TOOSLOW TO LISTEN?
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  • - WELL, MAKE SURE, RICK,THAT WHILE YOU'RE SITTING
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  • ON THIS SET TALKING TOOUR AUDIENCE AND POINTING
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  • PEOPLE ULTIMATELY TOJESUS, THE SOLUTION, THAT
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  • YOU HELP LAURIE AND I.
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  • YOU HAVE ACCESS TO US.
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  • WE'RE SITTING RIGHT HERE.
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  • WE ARE AT SOCIAL DISTANCELENGTH, BUT BASICALLY
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  • WE'RE SITTING HERE,SO DON'T LET THIS
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  • OPPORTUNITY AS YOU HAVEUS, WE NEED TO HEAR.
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  • AND WE JUST KNOW THATYOUR HEART IS FOR JESUS.
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  • - AMEN.
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  • - AS FIRST AND FOREMOST.
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  • SO SOMETIMES IT'S EASIERTO LISTEN TO A PERSON
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  • CALM, SITTING IN A CHAIR,THAN ONE THAT HAS A LASSO
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  • TIED AROUND A STATUEAND IS PULLING IT OVER.
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  • - SURE.
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  • - IT'S JUST EASIERFOR US TO LISTEN.
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  • WE'RE SITTINGRIGHT HERE NOW.
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  • - IT'S EASIER TO LISTENTO FRIENDS TALKING.
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - YOU KNOW, WE WERETALKING IN THE BACK THAT
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  • I THINK THAT'S SOCRITICAL IN THIS TIME IS
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  • THAT WE GET AROUNDFRIENDS AND HAVE
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  • CONVERSATIONS LIKE THISBECAUSE THE HEALING
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  • STARTS HERE AND AS LONGAS WE'RE ALL GOOD, THEN
  • 00:08:19.889 --> 00:08:22.758
  • THAT JUST BLEEDS OUTINTO OUR COMMUNITIES.
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  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - OUR FAMILIESAND OUR CHURCHES.
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  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • YOU KNOW, YOUBOTH ARE SO RIGHT.
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  • I WAS SO PRIVILEGED TOTEACH AT TEXAS
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  • A AND M UNIVERSITY.
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  • AND I HAD A MULTIPLE FOCIAS A GRADUATE STUDENT,
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  • AND ONE FOCUS WAS ONPROTEST MOVEMENTS OF THE
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  • 20TH CENTURY, AND ITAUGHT A CLASS CALLED THE
  • 00:08:42.712 --> 00:08:45.348
  • AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTSMOVEMENT, THE RHETORIC OF
  • 00:08:45.448 --> 00:08:47.416
  • CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
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  • AND I WOULD SHARE WITH MYSTUDENTS THAT THE CIVIL
  • 00:08:48.818 --> 00:08:51.153
  • RIGHTS MOVEMENT DID NOTBEGIN WITH ROSA PARKS IN
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  • 1955 ON DECEMBER 1.
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  • THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTSMOVEMENT IN THE UNITED
  • 00:08:56.692 --> 00:08:59.061
  • STATES BEGAN IN 1619 WHENYOU HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE
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  • FORCED TO COME TO ACOUNTRY THAT THEY DID NOT
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  • WANT TO COME TO, THENBRED TO HATE EACH OTHER,
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  • THE HOUSE NEGRO VERSUSTHE FIELD NEGRO,
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  • CONSIDERED PROPERTY.
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  • I'M TALKING MY GREATGRANDPARENTS, AND SO WHEN
  • 00:09:15.811 --> 00:09:19.882
  • YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, YOUCANNOT ISOLATE JUST THE
  • 00:09:19.982 --> 00:09:24.387
  • SOUTH WHEN IT COMESTO THAT KIND
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  • OF CONTAMINATION.
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  • THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE,BROWN, WHITE, BLACK IN
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  • SOME WAY OR ANOTHER.
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  • SO I REALLY BELIEVE AS WEWERE TALKING EARLIER
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  • THAT WE ARE STILLEXPERIENCING THE VESTIGES
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  • OF COLONIALISM.
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  • IN COLONIALISTIC TIMESWHITES WOULD TALK TO
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  • OTHER WHITES ABOUT THEROLE OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
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  • MEN WOULD TALK TO OTHERMEN ABOUT THE ROLE OF WOMEN.
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  • WHY DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHTTO VOTE AND THEN HAVE TO
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  • HAVE A SUFFRAGEMOVEMENT ON THE PART
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  • OF WOMEN?
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  • WHY DO YOU HAVE THEEMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION
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  • AND THE 14TH AMENDMENTAND THEN STILL HAVE TO
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  • HAVE A CIVILRIGHTS MOVEMENT?
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  • I THINK ED SHUTTLESWORTHSAID IT BEST, THE CIVIL
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  • RIGHTS DEBUTANTE THAT WASA LIEUTENANT WITH
  • 00:10:08.431 --> 00:10:10.599
  • MARTIN KING,
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  • HE SAID RATTLESNAKESDON'T COMMIT SUICIDE.
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  • BATH BALL TEAMS DON'TSTRIKE THEMSELVES OUT.
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  • AND THIS IS THE WAY ITAUGHT IT AT TEXAS A AND
  • 00:10:15.905 --> 00:10:18.007
  • M, A SECULAR UNIVERSITY,UNLESS THE HEART IS
  • 00:10:18.107 --> 00:10:21.110
  • CHANGED DON'T EXPECT THESTREETS TO BE CHANGED.
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  • UNLESS IS CHANGED, DON'TEXPECT THE HALLS OF THE
  • 00:10:24.013 --> 00:10:26.282
  • LEGISLATURETO BE CHANGED.
  • 00:10:26.382 --> 00:10:28.350
  • UNLESS THE HEART ISCHANGED, DON'T EXPECT THE
  • 00:10:28.451 --> 00:10:30.286
  • SYSTEMS OF THE WORLD TOBE CHANGED, AND I THINK
  • 00:10:30.386 --> 00:10:34.623
  • THE THING THAT GIVES MEHOPE IS THAT THE REVIVAL
  • 00:10:34.724 --> 00:10:39.228
  • DOESN'T START WITH MATTAND LAURIE AS FAR AS
  • 00:10:39.328 --> 00:10:41.597
  • I'M CONCERNED.
  • 00:10:41.697 --> 00:10:42.732
  • THE REVIVAL DOESN'T STARTWITH TEARING DOWN A
  • 00:10:42.832 --> 00:10:45.034
  • STATUE OR HATE LANGUAGEBETWEEN CONSERVATIVES
  • 00:10:45.134 --> 00:10:50.139
  • AND LIBERALS.
  • 00:10:50.239 --> 00:10:51.240
  • THE REVIVALSTARTS RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:54.310
  • IT WAS ARI TORREYPREACHING A REVIVAL THAT
  • 00:10:54.410 --> 00:10:56.679
  • SAID IF YOU REALLY WANTTO START A
  • 00:10:56.779 --> 00:10:58.347
  • REVIVAL, GO HOME.
  • 00:10:58.447 --> 00:10:59.615
  • DRAW A CIRCLE AROUNDYOURSELF, AND BEGIN THE
  • 00:10:59.715 --> 00:11:02.051
  • REVIVAL WITH THEPERSON IN THE CIRCLE.
  • 00:11:02.151 --> 00:11:03.586
  • I'LL TELL YOU, EVERYSINCE THE GEORGE FLOYD
  • 00:11:03.686 --> 00:11:05.821
  • DEATH WHICH WAS HORRIFIC,NO HUMAN SHOULD DIE LIKE
  • 00:11:05.921 --> 00:11:09.959
  • THAT, BUT IF YOU CAN GETBEYOND THE EMOTION FOR A
  • 00:11:10.059 --> 00:11:13.462
  • MOMENT, EVERY SINCE THATDEATH EVERY DAY I'VE BEEN
  • 00:11:13.562 --> 00:11:15.865
  • SAYING OH, WRETCHED MANTHAT I AM, WHO WILL
  • 00:11:15.965 --> 00:11:18.334
  • DELIVER ME FROMTHAT BODY OF DEATH?
  • 00:11:18.434 --> 00:11:20.035
  • IN OTHER WORDS, MATTAND LAURIE, IS THERE
  • 00:11:20.136 --> 00:11:22.505
  • PREJUDICE IN ME?
  • 00:11:22.605 --> 00:11:23.906
  • IS THERE SIN IN ME?
  • 00:11:24.006 --> 00:11:25.875
  • AND THE REASON WHY I TALKTHIS WAY IS BECAUSE EVEN
  • 00:11:25.975 --> 00:11:31.680
  • WITH MY BIBLIO CENTRICPOINT OF VIEW, EVEN WITH
  • 00:11:31.781 --> 00:11:36.018
  • MY VARIOUS POINT OFVIEWS, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
  • 00:11:36.118 --> 00:11:38.788
  • ABLE TO OVERRIDE THERACISM IN OUR COUNTRY.
  • 00:11:38.888 --> 00:11:42.558
  • SO I HAVE TO POINTTO A BETTER DAY.
  • 00:11:42.658 --> 00:11:45.594
  • MARTIN KING REFERREDTO IT AS THE
  • 00:11:45.694 --> 00:11:47.296
  • BELOVED COMMUNITY.
  • 00:11:47.396 --> 00:11:49.698
  • I HAVE TO BELIEVEIN A BETTER WAY.
  • 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.001
  • THAT'S WHY MY HOPE IS INTHE REVELATION FOUND IN
  • 00:11:52.101 --> 00:11:55.037
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:11:55.137 --> 00:11:56.305
  • THAT IS THE ONLY ONETHAT CAN HEAL US.
  • 00:11:56.405 --> 00:11:58.507
  • THIS ISN'T, PLEASE HEARMY HEART, THIS ISN'T A
  • 00:11:58.607 --> 00:12:02.011
  • POLICE ISSUE.
  • 00:12:02.111 --> 00:12:03.445
  • THIS ISN'T APROTEST ISSUE.
  • 00:12:03.546 --> 00:12:04.980
  • THIS ISN'T A BLACK,BROWN, OR WHITE ISSUE.
  • 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.483
  • THIS IS A HUMAN ISSUE, ASIN AGAINST ALMIGHTY GOD
  • 00:12:07.583 --> 00:12:12.254
  • THAT WE HAVE NEVER REALLYADDRESSED AND HAS BEEN
  • 00:12:12.354 --> 00:12:15.524
  • ALLOWED TO FESTEROVER THE YEARS.
  • 00:12:15.624 --> 00:12:18.260
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'REEXPERIENCING IN 2020.
  • 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.563
  • - MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:12:20.663 --> 00:12:23.098
  • - YOU KNOW, I WAS JUSTSITTING HERE THINKING THE
  • 00:12:23.199 --> 00:12:25.100
  • WHOLE CORONA VIRUS THING,THE WHOLE ISOLATION
  • 00:12:25.201 --> 00:12:29.605
  • THING, WE TALK ABOUTWE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER,
  • 00:12:29.705 --> 00:12:32.508
  • AMERICA TOGETHER, BUT ITHAS BEEN A VERY PERSONAL
  • 00:12:32.608 --> 00:12:39.748
  • THING TO EACH PERSON.
  • 00:12:39.849 --> 00:12:41.283
  • SO IN A SENSE I THINK GODIS TRYING TO DEAL WITH
  • 00:12:41.383 --> 00:12:48.357
  • EVERY PERSON INDIVIDUALLYIN THIS, BUT -- YOU KNOW
  • 00:12:48.457 --> 00:12:52.995
  • WHAT I'M SAYING?- I DO.
  • 00:12:53.095 --> 00:12:54.496
  • - IT'S BEEN A VERYPERSONAL TIME.
  • 00:12:54.597 --> 00:12:56.799
  • - YOU BET.
  • 00:12:56.899 --> 00:12:57.633
  • - FOR ALL OF US.
  • 00:12:57.733 --> 00:12:58.767
  • NO MATTER HOW CLOSE WEARE, NO MATTER US GETTING
  • 00:12:58.868 --> 00:13:00.936
  • TOGETHER ANDBEING TOGETHER.
  • 00:13:01.036 --> 00:13:02.671
  • THE CORONA VIRUS, YOU CANBE IN THE HOSPITAL AND
  • 00:13:02.771 --> 00:13:04.573
  • NEVER BE SEEN BYYOUR FAMILY AGAIN.
  • 00:13:04.673 --> 00:13:07.676
  • - LAURIE, YOU'REONTO SOMETHING.
  • 00:13:07.776 --> 00:13:09.578
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:13:09.678 --> 00:13:10.613
  • - THIS IS MY OPINION.
  • 00:13:10.713 --> 00:13:12.414
  • I THINK WE'VEBECOME TOO WHITE.
  • 00:13:12.514 --> 00:13:15.084
  • WE'VE BECOME TOO BLACK.
  • 00:13:15.184 --> 00:13:17.152
  • WE'VE BECOME TOO LIBERALAND WE'VE BECOME
  • 00:13:17.253 --> 00:13:19.154
  • TOO CONSERVATIVE.
  • 00:13:19.255 --> 00:13:21.090
  • IF WE GET TO HEAVEN GODIS NOT GOING TO ASK ME IF
  • 00:13:21.190 --> 00:13:22.858
  • I WAS A CONSERVATIVEOR A LIBERAL.
  • 00:13:22.958 --> 00:13:25.461
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:13:25.561 --> 00:13:26.996
  • - HE WAS GOING TO ASK MEIF I FED HIS SHEEP, IF I
  • 00:13:27.096 --> 00:13:28.530
  • LOVED MY BROTHERAS MYSELF.
  • 00:13:28.631 --> 00:13:30.299
  • AND IN ORDER FOR US TOREALLY COMPLETELY EXHAUST
  • 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.902
  • WHAT THAT MEANS IN OURLIMITED CAPACITY WE HAVE
  • 00:13:33.002 --> 00:13:37.573
  • TO STAY ON OUR KNEES.
  • 00:13:37.673 --> 00:13:39.208
  • THE REVIVAL HAS TO BEGINWITH EACH AND EVERY ONE
  • 00:13:39.308 --> 00:13:41.577
  • OF US ASKING OURSELVES,WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME?
  • 00:13:41.677 --> 00:13:44.780
  • NEHEMIAH ON THE WALL, THESINS OF HIS NATION HE
  • 00:13:44.880 --> 00:13:48.584
  • PLACED UPON -I HAVE SOMANY PRECIOUS FRIENDS
  • 00:13:48.684 --> 00:13:51.387
  • THAT MEAN WELL, AND THEYWILL SAY RICK, I DON'T
  • 00:13:51.487 --> 00:13:54.056
  • FEEL A NEED TO ASKFORGIVENESS FOR SOMETHING
  • 00:13:54.156 --> 00:13:57.526
  • I WASN'T INVOLVED IN.
  • 00:13:57.626 --> 00:13:58.961
  • IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OFTHE HUMAN RACE, YOU'RE
  • 00:13:59.061 --> 00:14:02.398
  • INVOLVED WHETHERYOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
  • 00:14:02.498 --> 00:14:05.534
  • AND INVOLVED IN A SYSTEMTHAT HAS SPECIFICALLY
  • 00:14:05.634 --> 00:14:13.042
  • BEEN UNKIND TO ITSPEOPLE OF COLOR.
  • 00:14:13.142 --> 00:14:15.244
  • AND I THINK IT'SSOMETHING THAT JUST
  • 00:14:15.344 --> 00:14:18.580
  • CAUSES THE HEART OFGOD TO JUST BREAK.
  • 00:14:18.681 --> 00:14:22.584
  • AND SO HERE'STHE GOOD NEWS.
  • 00:14:22.685 --> 00:14:24.687
  • WE'RE ALL IN IT TOGETHER.
  • 00:14:24.787 --> 00:14:26.722
  • WHO SAID THIS?
  • 00:14:26.822 --> 00:14:28.557
  • WAS IT MARTIN KING WHOSAID WE MAY HAVE COME ON
  • 00:14:28.657 --> 00:14:31.994
  • DIFFERENT BOATS BUTWE'RE IN ONE BOAT NOW.
  • 00:14:32.094 --> 00:14:34.530
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:34.630 --> 00:14:36.031
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:14:36.131 --> 00:14:37.833
  • - DON'T YOU LOVE THAT?
  • 00:14:37.933 --> 00:14:38.934
  • - I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:14:39.034 --> 00:14:39.935
  • - WE'RE INTHE SAME BOAT.
  • 00:14:40.035 --> 00:14:41.203
  • WHAT IS IT GOING TOTAKE FOR US TO LOVE
  • 00:14:41.303 --> 00:14:43.072
  • ONE ANOTHER?
  • 00:14:43.172 --> 00:14:44.440
  • WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICEOF WHAT COLOR WE WERE OR
  • 00:14:44.540 --> 00:14:48.043
  • WHAT SEX WE WERE.
  • 00:14:48.143 --> 00:14:49.278
  • WE'RE GOD'S CHILDREN.
  • 00:14:49.378 --> 00:14:51.046
  • WE'RE A JOINT PRIESTHOOD.
  • 00:14:51.146 --> 00:14:52.614
  • THE PROBLEM IS WEHAVEN'T ACTED LIKE IT.
  • 00:14:52.715 --> 00:14:54.249
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:14:54.350 --> 00:14:55.584
  • RICK, EVERYTHING THAT YOUSAY IN RESPONSE TO VERY
  • 00:14:55.684 --> 00:15:00.222
  • DIFFICULT SITUATIONS,RIOTING AND RACIAL
  • 00:15:00.322 --> 00:15:05.561
  • TENSION AND PANDEMICAND CONSERVATIVES AND
  • 00:15:05.661 --> 00:15:09.098
  • LIBERAL, ALL THOSE AREREALLY BIG UGLY ISSUES.
  • 00:15:09.198 --> 00:15:12.835
  • - SURE.
  • 00:15:12.935 --> 00:15:13.902
  • - EVERYTHING THAT YOUSAY HAS THIS --
  • 00:15:14.003 --> 00:15:17.873
  • - GRACE.
  • 00:15:17.973 --> 00:15:19.274
  • - POINTING.
  • 00:15:19.375 --> 00:15:20.476
  • YOU'RE POINTING USULTIMATELY TOWARDS THE
  • 00:15:20.576 --> 00:15:22.277
  • REAL ANSWERWHICH IS JESUS.
  • 00:15:22.378 --> 00:15:24.480
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:26.415
  • - AND A CHANGEOF THE HEART.
  • 00:15:26.515 --> 00:15:27.783
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:15:27.883 --> 00:15:29.385
  • - YOU MENTIONED EARLIER,I'LL LET YOU TELL THE
  • 00:15:29.485 --> 00:15:33.322
  • STORY ON YOURSELF, BUTIF I SAY THE WORD SMALL
  • 00:15:33.422 --> 00:15:37.359
  • AIRPLANE AND TURBULENCEWHAT DOES THAT MEAN
  • 00:15:37.459 --> 00:15:40.429
  • TO YOU?
  • 00:15:40.529 --> 00:15:41.563
  • - OH, MATTHEW.
  • 00:15:41.663 --> 00:15:43.265
  • - WE WERETALKING FAMILY.
  • 00:15:43.365 --> 00:15:45.234
  • - BUT YOU KNOW,YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:15:45.334 --> 00:15:46.602
  • AND MAYBE THISWILL HELP SOMEBODY.
  • 00:15:46.702 --> 00:15:49.171
  • I THINK THERE'SPREJUDICE IN ALL OF US.
  • 00:15:49.271 --> 00:15:52.474
  • HOW COULD THERENOT BE, RIGHT?
  • 00:15:52.574 --> 00:15:53.709
  • SO THIS LAST THREE MONTHSTO GET BACK TO LAURIE'S
  • 00:15:53.809 --> 00:15:57.446
  • POINT HAS REALLY FORCEDON INTROSPECTION, A
  • 00:15:57.546 --> 00:16:00.516
  • SELF-WILLEDINTROSPECTION, AND IT'S
  • 00:16:00.616 --> 00:16:03.719
  • CAUSED ME TO REALIZE MYDESPERATE NEED TO BE
  • 00:16:03.819 --> 00:16:06.155
  • CLEANSED DAILY.
  • 00:16:06.255 --> 00:16:07.856
  • YOU KNOW, ISN'T IT -- BEFOREI ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
  • 00:16:07.956 --> 00:16:10.893
  • ISN'T IT INTERESTING --- I THOUGHT YOU WERE
  • 00:16:10.993 --> 00:16:12.161
  • AVOIDING IT.
  • 00:16:12.261 --> 00:16:13.495
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:13.595 --> 00:16:15.464
  • - NO, I'MGONNA GET TO IT.
  • 00:16:15.564 --> 00:16:17.499
  • [LAUGHTER] YOU REMEMBERIN MATTHEW, JESUS SAYS
  • 00:16:17.599 --> 00:16:21.036
  • ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COMEAFTER ME, REMEMBER, MUST
  • 00:16:21.136 --> 00:16:24.173
  • DENY HIMSELF, TAKE UP HISCROSS, AND FOLLOW
  • 00:16:24.273 --> 00:16:27.142
  • ME, RIGHT.
  • 00:16:27.242 --> 00:16:30.512
  • LUKE SAYS THE WORD DAILY.
  • 00:16:30.612 --> 00:16:33.082
  • TAKE UP HIS CROSS DAILY.
  • 00:16:33.182 --> 00:16:35.317
  • SO IT MEANS ADAILY CLEANSING.
  • 00:16:35.417 --> 00:16:37.586
  • I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WETHINK THAT FOLLOW ME LINE
  • 00:16:37.686 --> 00:16:41.690
  • WAS JUST WHENWE GOT SAVED.
  • 00:16:41.790 --> 00:16:42.858
  • THAT'S DAILY DYING.
  • 00:16:42.958 --> 00:16:44.293
  • SO TO YOUR POINT IT WASABOUT 20 YEARS AGO I'M
  • 00:16:44.393 --> 00:16:48.464
  • FEELING LIKE I'M PRETTY-- I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT
  • 00:16:48.564 --> 00:16:52.501
  • OF PREJUDICE IN ME, DON'THAVE A WHOLE LOT OF -- YOU
  • 00:16:52.601 --> 00:16:54.536
  • KNOW HOW YOU CAN FEELPRETTY GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF?
  • 00:16:54.636 --> 00:16:57.272
  • IT'S A STORM.
  • 00:16:57.372 --> 00:16:59.007
  • IT'S A COMMUTER FLIGHT.
  • 00:16:59.108 --> 00:17:00.542
  • STORM AND COMMUTER FLIGHTSHOULD NEVER BE IN THE
  • 00:17:00.642 --> 00:17:03.312
  • SAME SENTENCE.
  • 00:17:03.412 --> 00:17:04.613
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:17:04.713 --> 00:17:06.014
  • - SPECIALLY IF YOU'REGETTING ON THE PLANE, RIGHT.
  • 00:17:06.115 --> 00:17:07.649
  • I HATE COMMUTERS ANYWAY.
  • 00:17:07.749 --> 00:17:09.184
  • I GOTTA RUB SOME BUTTERON ME JUST TO GET IN THE
  • 00:17:09.284 --> 00:17:11.120
  • BATHROOM BUT ANYWAY,BE THAT AS IT MAY --
  • 00:17:11.220 --> 00:17:14.123
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:14.223 --> 00:17:15.424
  • - RUB SOME BUTTER ON ME.
  • 00:17:15.524 --> 00:17:16.758
  • - THERE'S A VISUALFOR YOU RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:17:16.859 --> 00:17:18.427
  • AND I HAPPEN TO LOOK INTOTHE COCKPIT AND I SEE A
  • 00:17:18.527 --> 00:17:22.531
  • WOMAN ABOUT YOUR SIZE,AND I'M THINKING STORM
  • 00:17:22.631 --> 00:17:27.469
  • AND I'M JUST THINKING TOMYSELF THERE'S NO WAY
  • 00:17:27.569 --> 00:17:29.738
  • THIS WOMAN IS GOING TOBE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS
  • 00:17:29.838 --> 00:17:31.073
  • FLIGHT, AND IT WAS THEWORST ROCKIEST FLIGHT I
  • 00:17:31.173 --> 00:17:35.444
  • EVER HAD AS THE HOLYSPIRIT DISPATCHED DOWN TO
  • 00:17:35.544 --> 00:17:39.281
  • THE WEATHER CHANNEL TOMAKE IT ROCKY SO RICK
  • 00:17:39.381 --> 00:17:43.185
  • WOULD WAKE UPOUT OF HIS FOG.
  • 00:17:43.285 --> 00:17:45.854
  • I WENT TO MY HOTEL ROOMAND I REPENTED MULTIPLE
  • 00:17:45.954 --> 00:17:49.158
  • TIMES FOR JUDGINGBASED ON WHAT I SEE.
  • 00:17:49.258 --> 00:17:52.161
  • IF ALL YOU SEE IS WHATYOU SEE, YOU'RE NOT GOING
  • 00:17:52.261 --> 00:17:55.497
  • TO SEE WHATNEEDS TO BE SEEN.
  • 00:17:55.597 --> 00:17:57.533
  • AND MATT, IT REALLYPOINTS TO A BIGGER ISSUE.
  • 00:17:57.633 --> 00:18:02.004
  • HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WEHEARD PEOPLE SAY OH, I'M
  • 00:18:02.104 --> 00:18:04.473
  • NOT RACIST?
  • 00:18:04.573 --> 00:18:05.541
  • REALLY?
  • 00:18:05.641 --> 00:18:06.775
  • LET HER BRING HOMESOMEBODY THAT'S NOT
  • 00:18:06.875 --> 00:18:09.611
  • YOUR TYPE.
  • 00:18:09.711 --> 00:18:11.079
  • I'M NOT PREJUDICE.
  • 00:18:11.180 --> 00:18:12.281
  • OH REALLY?
  • 00:18:12.381 --> 00:18:13.348
  • YOU SEE, PREJUDICE ISN'TREVEALED UNTIL IT GETS A
  • 00:18:13.448 --> 00:18:16.151
  • LITTLE CLOSE TO YOU.
  • 00:18:16.251 --> 00:18:17.753
  • - GOT IT.
  • 00:18:17.853 --> 00:18:18.887
  • - YOU SEE, I DIDN'T I WASEITHER UNTIL I HAD THAT
  • 00:18:18.987 --> 00:18:21.790
  • ENCOUNTER WITH AN AIRLINEPILOT, SO THE POINT I'M
  • 00:18:21.890 --> 00:18:25.727
  • TRYING TO MAKE IS INSIDEOF ME THERE'S A LOT
  • 00:18:25.827 --> 00:18:28.864
  • OF WRETCHEDNESS.
  • 00:18:28.964 --> 00:18:32.534
  • AND SO I HAVE ONE OF 2CHOICES DURING A TIME OF
  • 00:18:32.634 --> 00:18:36.371
  • TREMENDOUSRACIAL UNSTRIFE.
  • 00:18:36.471 --> 00:18:37.639
  • I CAN DO THIS.
  • 00:18:37.739 --> 00:18:39.975
  • I CAN REMIND PEOPLE OFEVERYTHING THEY HAVE
  • 00:18:40.075 --> 00:18:42.177
  • NOT DONE.
  • 00:18:42.277 --> 00:18:43.845
  • I CAN CONSTANTLY CONDEMNAND BLAME AND RIDICULE,
  • 00:18:43.946 --> 00:18:45.914
  • OR I CAN SAY MY THEOLOGYTELLS ME TO LOOK TO THE
  • 00:18:46.014 --> 00:18:52.521
  • ONE THAT CANHEAL MY HEART.
  • 00:18:52.621 --> 00:18:55.624
  • THE PRESUPPOSITION IS, THESYLLOGISTIC REASONING IS
  • 00:18:55.724 --> 00:19:00.295
  • MY HEART NEEDS HEALING.
  • 00:19:00.395 --> 00:19:03.966
  • - YOUR DADDY WAS ATHIRD GRADE DROPOUT.
  • 00:19:04.066 --> 00:19:07.436
  • - SURE.
  • 00:19:07.536 --> 00:19:08.704
  • - HE WAS A COOKALL OF HIS LIFE.
  • 00:19:08.804 --> 00:19:11.106
  • - YES, SIR.
  • 00:19:11.206 --> 00:19:12.474
  • - HIS BOYS AREPROFESSORS.
  • 00:19:12.574 --> 00:19:15.143
  • - JUDGES.
  • 00:19:15.244 --> 00:19:16.912
  • - WITH MULTIPLEDEGREES.
  • 00:19:17.012 --> 00:19:18.580
  • AND YOUR BROTHERIS A --
  • 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.950
  • - JUDGE. YES, SIR.
  • 00:19:22.050 --> 00:19:23.819
  • - SO THE IDEA THAT GOTYOU THERE WAS WHAT?
  • 00:19:23.919 --> 00:19:30.058
  • - OH, MAN.
  • 00:19:30.158 --> 00:19:31.760
  • - WHAT MADE THE RIGSBYFAMILY BE WHAT THEY ARE?
  • 00:19:31.860 --> 00:19:34.363
  • WHY DO YOU SMILE SO MUCH?
  • 00:19:34.463 --> 00:19:36.398
  • WHAT'S HAPPENED TO YOU?
  • 00:19:36.498 --> 00:19:38.233
  • - MY DAD WAS DEALINGWITH A PREJUDICE IN THE
  • 00:19:38.333 --> 00:19:40.869
  • 1940'S AND 50'S THAT IWOULD NEVER KNOW, AND
  • 00:19:40.969 --> 00:19:43.538
  • LISTEN TO THIS, NEVERONCE, NEVER ONCE DID I
  • 00:19:43.639 --> 00:19:49.177
  • HEAR HIM COMPLAIN.
  • 00:19:49.278 --> 00:19:51.046
  • IT WAS ALWAYS TAKETHE HIGH ROAD.
  • 00:19:51.146 --> 00:19:53.548
  • BECAUSE MY FATHER WORKEDAT CALIFORNIA MARITIME
  • 00:19:53.649 --> 00:19:55.984
  • ACADEMY IN THE SANFRANCISCO BAY AREA, OURS
  • 00:19:56.084 --> 00:19:59.421
  • WAS AN INTEGRATEDENVIRONMENT, SO OUR
  • 00:19:59.521 --> 00:20:02.557
  • FRIENDS WERE WHITE,BROWN, BLACK.
  • 00:20:02.658 --> 00:20:07.129
  • ON OUR BLOCK WE HADWHITE, FILIPINO,
  • 00:20:07.229 --> 00:20:10.632
  • HISPANIC, AND BLACK.
  • 00:20:10.732 --> 00:20:13.035
  • IN ONE WEEK I COULD GOFROM CHICKEN ADOBO TO
  • 00:20:13.135 --> 00:20:16.938
  • HAMBURGER HELPER WITHOUT-- [LAUGHTER] SO WE WERE
  • 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:22.511
  • TAUGHT TO LOOKBEYOND WHAT YOU SEE.
  • 00:20:22.611 --> 00:20:26.381
  • I MEAN, IT WAS ENGRAINEDIN US PARTLY I THINK OUT
  • 00:20:26.481 --> 00:20:30.652
  • OF THE NECESSITY OF THETHIRD GRADE DROPOUT WHO
  • 00:20:30.752 --> 00:20:32.854
  • SAID I DO NOT WANT MYCHILDREN TO DWELL IN
  • 00:20:32.954 --> 00:20:36.658
  • THE WEEDS.
  • 00:20:36.758 --> 00:20:38.026
  • WE GET OLDER AND WEREALIZE THOSE WEEDS ARE
  • 00:20:38.126 --> 00:20:39.695
  • PRETTY HIGH.
  • 00:20:39.795 --> 00:20:41.330
  • WE GET OLDER AND WE'RESTARTING TO SAY IN OUR
  • 00:20:41.430 --> 00:20:43.699
  • TEENS IN OUR MOREMILITANT EARLY 20'S, WE
  • 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:46.068
  • GET OLDER AND SAY DADDY,WHY DIDN'T YOU
  • 00:20:46.168 --> 00:20:47.936
  • FIGHT BACK?
  • 00:20:48.036 --> 00:20:49.504
  • WITHOUT REALIZING HE WASFIGHTING BACK, WITHOUT
  • 00:20:49.604 --> 00:20:52.641
  • REALIZING THAT HE WASASSIMILATING THE BEST WAY
  • 00:20:52.741 --> 00:20:55.610
  • THAT HE COULD.
  • 00:20:55.711 --> 00:20:57.012
  • AND HERE WAS THE BESTWAY THAT HE COULD.
  • 00:20:57.112 --> 00:20:58.814
  • HE AND MAMA POINTINGUS TO JESUS.
  • 00:20:58.914 --> 00:21:01.383
  • YOU SEE, THIS IS WHAT THECHURCH IS MISSING TODAY,
  • 00:21:01.483 --> 00:21:03.885
  • MATT AND LAURIE.
  • 00:21:03.985 --> 00:21:05.587
  • WE PLACE OUR AGENDA ABOVETHE THEOLOGY OF GOD.
  • 00:21:05.687 --> 00:21:08.623
  • - WOW.
  • 00:21:08.724 --> 00:21:10.292
  • - WE LITERALLY PLACE OURAGENDA AT THE APEX OF THE
  • 00:21:10.392 --> 00:21:14.696
  • TRIANGLE TO THE POINTTHAT UNLESS WE'RE
  • 00:21:14.796 --> 00:21:17.766
  • COMFORTABLE, UNLESS IT'SCONVENIENT, UNLESS WE'RE
  • 00:21:17.866 --> 00:21:20.635
  • BEING ENCROACHED UPON,DON'T MESS WITH US, RIGHT.
  • 00:21:20.736 --> 00:21:26.274
  • SO HOW CAN GOD BE GOD?
  • 00:21:26.375 --> 00:21:28.176
  • OUR MOM AND DAD ALWAYS,ALWAYS, ALWAYS PLACED THE
  • 00:21:28.276 --> 00:21:32.214
  • WORD OF GOD ABOVE ALL WEFELT, WHETHER WE FELT WE
  • 00:21:32.314 --> 00:21:38.820
  • WERE BEING ATTACKED, NOMATTER WHAT WE FELT, NO
  • 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:46.962
  • MATTER WHAT WEEXPERIENCED OUR FOLKS
  • 00:21:47.062 --> 00:21:48.930
  • ALWAYS PUSHEDOUR HEADS UP.
  • 00:21:49.030 --> 00:21:51.466
  • I AM SO, SO GRATEFUL.
  • 00:21:51.566 --> 00:21:54.069
  • IT WASN'T UNTIL I WASLIKE 35, 40 YEARS OLD
  • 00:21:54.169 --> 00:21:56.538
  • THAT I REALIZED MY MOTHERAND FATHER WERE ENDURING
  • 00:21:56.638 --> 00:21:58.874
  • HORRIFIC RACISM.
  • 00:21:58.974 --> 00:22:01.243
  • RACISM ON-THE-JOB, THEYCOULD NEVER QUOTE
  • 00:22:01.343 --> 00:22:03.645
  • MEASURE UP.
  • 00:22:03.745 --> 00:22:06.081
  • THERE WAS ALWAYSSOMEBODY QUESTIONING
  • 00:22:06.181 --> 00:22:09.151
  • THEIR LEGITIMIZATION.
  • 00:22:09.251 --> 00:22:10.552
  • I GREW UP WITHRACIAL PROFILING.
  • 00:22:10.652 --> 00:22:12.120
  • MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT.
  • 00:22:12.220 --> 00:22:13.321
  • I'VE BEEN RACIALLYPROFILED MY ENTIRE LIFE,
  • 00:22:13.422 --> 00:22:17.025
  • BUT WE WERE ALWAYSCHALLENGED TO PUSH UP.
  • 00:22:17.125 --> 00:22:18.894
  • MY MOM AND DAD BECAME MYHEROES WHEN I REALIZED
  • 00:22:18.994 --> 00:22:21.396
  • THAT THEY MADE ACONSCIENTIOUS EFFORT NOT
  • 00:22:21.496 --> 00:22:24.633
  • TO MAKE THAT REALITY.
  • 00:22:24.733 --> 00:22:26.101
  • OUR REALITY IS YOU SHALLLOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD
  • 00:22:26.201 --> 00:22:28.970
  • WITH ALL YOUR HEART,SOUL AND MIGHT.
  • 00:22:29.070 --> 00:22:31.273
  • AND WHEN JESUS RATIFIEDIT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,
  • 00:22:31.373 --> 00:22:33.842
  • HE SAID OH, FELLAS, YOUSHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
  • 00:22:33.942 --> 00:22:36.511
  • AS YOURSELF.
  • 00:22:36.611 --> 00:22:37.846
  • AND SO THOSE WHITES ANDTHOSE BROWNS AND THOSE
  • 00:22:37.946 --> 00:22:40.048
  • BLACKS WERE LOVEDBY THE RIGSBIES.
  • 00:22:40.148 --> 00:22:42.517
  • IF YOU GO TO VALLEJO,CALIFORNIA TO THIS DAY,
  • 00:22:42.617 --> 00:22:45.954
  • YOU WILL HEAR NOTHING BUTLOVE FOR PAPA RIGSBY AND
  • 00:22:46.054 --> 00:22:50.725
  • FOR GRANNY,FOR MAMA RIGSBY.
  • 00:22:50.826 --> 00:22:53.762
  • AND IT WAS BECAUSE THEYCHOSE TO TAKE THE
  • 00:22:53.862 --> 00:22:56.832
  • HIGH ROAD.
  • 00:22:56.932 --> 00:22:57.999
  • NOW, HERE'S THE POINT.
  • 00:22:58.099 --> 00:22:59.501
  • YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HIGHROAD WHEN IT'S ALL
  • 00:22:59.601 --> 00:23:00.802
  • ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:23:00.902 --> 00:23:02.170
  • WHEN ALL ABOUT YOURCONSERVATIVE BENT, WHEN
  • 00:23:02.270 --> 00:23:04.272
  • IT'S ALL ABOUTYOUR LIBERAL BENT.
  • 00:23:04.372 --> 00:23:06.341
  • I HAVE SO MANY BEAUTIFULCHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND
  • 00:23:06.441 --> 00:23:08.743
  • SISTERS WHO ARE WRITINGSUCH HORRIFIC TRASH
  • 00:23:08.844 --> 00:23:10.912
  • ON INTERNET.
  • 00:23:11.012 --> 00:23:12.347
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:23:12.447 --> 00:23:13.615
  • WE DON'T NEED ANEW NARRATIVE.
  • 00:23:13.715 --> 00:23:15.717
  • WE NEED A GODLYNARRATIVE.
  • 00:23:15.817 --> 00:23:18.453
  • WE DON'T NEED ANEW KIND OF GOSPEL.
  • 00:23:18.553 --> 00:23:21.957
  • WE NEED AS LEONARD RAVENHILLSAID, WE DON'T NEED
  • 00:23:22.057 --> 00:23:25.627
  • A NEW DEFINITIONOF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:23:25.727 --> 00:23:27.028
  • WE NEED A NEWDEMONSTRATION OF THE
  • 00:23:27.128 --> 00:23:28.897
  • POWER OF GOSPEL.
  • 00:23:28.997 --> 00:23:30.298
  • YOU SEE, WHAT'S HAPPENED,AND I THINK TONY EVANS
  • 00:23:30.398 --> 00:23:32.067
  • SAID IT BEST ON APREVIOUS SHOW, HE SAYS
  • 00:23:32.167 --> 00:23:35.403
  • YOU KNOW, DESPITE,DESPITE THE TEACHINGS OF
  • 00:23:35.504 --> 00:23:40.208
  • THE WORLD, OUR TRADITIONSOF RACISM, OF SYSTEMIC
  • 00:23:40.308 --> 00:23:45.213
  • RACISM THEY'VE EVENOVERWHELMED THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:23:45.313 --> 00:23:49.417
  • MAY THAT NEVER BE.
  • 00:23:49.518 --> 00:23:51.086
  • AND REMEMBER ON THATSHOW, YOU AND I AND
  • 00:23:51.186 --> 00:23:53.421
  • LAURIE WERE TALKINGABOUT HOW HE JUST USED
  • 00:23:53.522 --> 00:23:56.925
  • GALATIANS CHAPTER 20AS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE.
  • 00:23:57.025 --> 00:24:00.262
  • AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THATDIDN'T SEE IT, IT WAS A
  • 00:24:00.362 --> 00:24:03.665
  • PROFOUND MOMENT OF EXEGESISWHERE HE SAYS
  • 00:24:03.765 --> 00:24:07.702
  • LOOKING AT THEGREAT-GREAT SCRIPTURE
  • 00:24:07.802 --> 00:24:12.841
  • I'VE BEEN CRUCIFIED WITHCHRIST, IT'S NO LONGER I
  • 00:24:12.941 --> 00:24:15.744
  • WHO LIVE BUT CHRIST LIVESWITHIN ME, AND THE LIFE I
  • 00:24:15.844 --> 00:24:18.680
  • NOW LIVE IN THE FLESH INOW LIVE IN THE ONE WHO
  • 00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:22.017
  • LOVED ME AND GAVEHIMSELF UP FOR ME.
  • 00:24:22.117 --> 00:24:23.718
  • AND PASTOR TONY ON THISSHOW SAID THE BACKSTORY
  • 00:24:23.818 --> 00:24:29.357
  • IS IN VERSES11 THROUGH 19.
  • 00:24:29.457 --> 00:24:33.128
  • - GALATIANS 2.
  • 00:24:33.228 --> 00:24:34.229
  • - GALATIANS 2.
  • 00:24:34.329 --> 00:24:35.363
  • AND THEN THE BACK STORYIS IN VERSES 11 THROUGH
  • 00:24:35.463 --> 00:24:38.733
  • 19 WHERE PETER NOTWANTING TO OFFEND HIS NEW
  • 00:24:38.833 --> 00:24:42.604
  • JEWISH FRIENDS UPON THEARRIVAL OF THE GENTILES
  • 00:24:42.704 --> 00:24:48.243
  • JUST DOESN'T WANTTO BE OFFENSIVE.
  • 00:24:48.343 --> 00:24:52.814
  • AND PAUL PUBLICLY SAYINGIN DOING SO YOU HAVE
  • 00:24:52.914 --> 00:24:55.283
  • OFFENDED CHRIST.
  • 00:24:55.383 --> 00:24:56.718
  • - MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:24:56.818 --> 00:24:58.186
  • - YOU HAVEOFFENDED THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:24:58.286 --> 00:24:59.421
  • SO HERE'S THE QUESTION,WHEN WE TAKE SIDES BASED
  • 00:24:59.521 --> 00:25:05.226
  • ON PREFERENCE, I'M NOTTALKING JUST WHITE, I'M
  • 00:25:05.327 --> 00:25:07.596
  • TALKING ALL GOD'SCHILDREN, BASED ON LABEL,
  • 00:25:07.696 --> 00:25:11.366
  • BASED THE ON POLITICALPERSUASION, ARE WE
  • 00:25:11.466 --> 00:25:14.536
  • NOT OFFENDING GOD?
  • 00:25:14.636 --> 00:25:16.171
  • AND SOMEHOW WITHIN THENOMENCLATURE OF A SIMPLE
  • 00:25:16.271 --> 00:25:19.207
  • THIRD GRADE DROPOUT, ANDHIS WIFE A COUNTRY WOMAN
  • 00:25:19.307 --> 00:25:22.577
  • FROM OKLAHOMA,THEY GOT IT.
  • 00:25:22.677 --> 00:25:24.713
  • THEY GOT IT, ANDTHEY PASSED IT ON.
  • 00:25:24.813 --> 00:25:27.282
  • IT'S NOT THAT YOU HAVEA DIMMED EYE TO THE
  • 00:25:27.382 --> 00:25:30.552
  • PREJUDICE OF THE DAY, BUTYOU RISE ABOVE IT BECAUSE
  • 00:25:30.652 --> 00:25:33.154
  • WHAT YOU'RE RISING UP TOIS A GLORIFIED CROSS THAT
  • 00:25:33.254 --> 00:25:37.559
  • HAS NO RESPECTEROF A PERSON.
  • 00:25:37.659 --> 00:25:40.562
  • THAT'S THE WAY ME ANDBOBBY WERE RAISED.
  • 00:25:40.662 --> 00:25:42.497
  • HE'S NOW OFFICIALLY JUDGEROBERT RIGSBY BUT HE'LL
  • 00:25:42.597 --> 00:25:45.900
  • ALWAYS BE BOBBY TO ME.
  • 00:25:46.001 --> 00:25:47.102
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:47.202 --> 00:25:48.203
  • - THAT'S THE WAYWE WERE REARED.
  • 00:25:48.303 --> 00:25:49.404
  • THAT'S THE WAYWE WERE REARED.
  • 00:25:49.504 --> 00:25:50.739
  • CHRIST IS THE ANSWER,MATT AND LAURIE.
  • 00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:54.309
  • I'M SAVED.
  • 00:25:54.409 --> 00:25:56.011
  • I'M SITTING HERE TODAYBECAUSE OF A SAVIOR THAT
  • 00:25:56.111 --> 00:25:59.547
  • SAYS I HAVE ONE RACE OFPEOPLE, THE RACE THAT
  • 00:25:59.648 --> 00:26:04.653
  • I CREATED.
  • 00:26:04.753 --> 00:26:06.655
  • NOW GET AFTER IT ANDLOVE ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:26:06.755 --> 00:26:09.290
  • I WANT TO SEE THE DAY, IWANT TO SEE THE DAY WHEN
  • 00:26:09.391 --> 00:26:13.995
  • I'M ABLE TO TALK TO ACLANSMAN FACE-TO-FACE AND
  • 00:26:14.095 --> 00:26:16.831
  • THAT WE FIND SOMETHINGTHAT WE CAN AGREE UPON.
  • 00:26:16.931 --> 00:26:18.967
  • I WANT TO SEE THE DAYTHAT I'M ABLE TO TALK TO
  • 00:26:19.067 --> 00:26:21.936
  • MY WHITE SUPREMISTBROTHER AND SISTER THAT
  • 00:26:22.037 --> 00:26:24.572
  • MAYBE THERE MIGHT BESOMETHING THAT WE CAN
  • 00:26:24.673 --> 00:26:26.508
  • AGREE UPON.
  • 00:26:26.608 --> 00:26:27.942
  • WE ARE ALLGOD'S CHILDREN.
  • 00:26:28.043 --> 00:26:29.678
  • EVEN IF WE'RE IN DENIAL,WE'RE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN.
  • 00:26:29.778 --> 00:26:32.681
  • I JUST BELIEVE ITWITH ALL MY HEART.
  • 00:26:32.781 --> 00:26:34.783
  • Y'ALL CAN CALL ME CRAZY,YOU CAN CALL ME STUPID,
  • 00:26:34.883 --> 00:26:38.286
  • BUT I KNOW THEDEFINITION OF HOPE.
  • 00:26:38.386 --> 00:26:40.455
  • HOPE IS THAT QUALITYWITHIN EACH AND EVERY ONE
  • 00:26:40.555 --> 00:26:43.692
  • OF US PLACED IN THEREBY GOD THAT PLACES A
  • 00:26:43.792 --> 00:26:46.261
  • TRANSFORMATIVE DEMANDUPON OUR HEART TO BELIEVE
  • 00:26:46.361 --> 00:26:49.698
  • FOR THE BEST OUTCOME.
  • 00:26:49.798 --> 00:26:51.499
  • THAT IS JESUS THE CHRIST.
  • 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.803
  • - YES. AMEN.
  • 00:26:54.903 --> 00:26:56.571
  • - OH.
  • 00:26:56.671 --> 00:26:58.173
  • - YOU KNOW, WE WERETALKING BACK IN THE BACK
  • 00:26:58.273 --> 00:26:59.808
  • ABOUT GOING TO DIFFERENTCOUNTRIES AND OUR
  • 00:26:59.908 --> 00:27:02.644
  • PRELIMINARY THOUGHTSABOUT DIFFERENT COUNTRIES
  • 00:27:02.744 --> 00:27:06.281
  • AND ONCE YOU GET THEREMAN, IT'S JUST ERASED AND
  • 00:27:06.381 --> 00:27:09.451
  • YOU MEET THE PEOPLE.
  • 00:27:09.551 --> 00:27:10.719
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:27:10.819 --> 00:27:12.287
  • - YOU KNOW, I AM A TRUEBELIEVER THAT NO MATTER
  • 00:27:12.387 --> 00:27:14.622
  • HOW BAD SOMEBODY IS --
  • 00:27:14.723 --> 00:27:16.558
  • - YES.
  • 00:27:16.658 --> 00:27:17.559
  • - YOU GET THEM BYTHEMSELVES, YOU GET THEM
  • 00:27:17.659 --> 00:27:18.993
  • HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES,THEY CAN BE THE GREATEST
  • 00:27:19.094 --> 00:27:23.364
  • FATHERS, THEY CAN BETHE GREATEST -YOU KNOW.
  • 00:27:23.465 --> 00:27:25.200
  • - THE STEREOTYPES --- THE STEREOTYPES FALL AWAY.
  • 00:27:25.300 --> 00:27:28.503
  • TO EVERYBODY I THINK I'VEEVER MET IN MY LIFE,
  • 00:27:28.603 --> 00:27:31.239
  • NO MATTER ANY PRECONCEIVEDIDEAS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:27:31.339 --> 00:27:35.810
  • THERE'S ALWAYS GOOD INSOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY'RE
  • 00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:38.680
  • MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
  • 00:27:38.780 --> 00:27:40.882
  • - THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:27:40.982 --> 00:27:42.150
  • - WE'RE ALL IMAGEBEARERS OF CHRIST.
  • 00:27:42.250 --> 00:27:43.618
  • - YOU'RE RIGHT. CAN I TELL YOUA FUNNY STORY REAL QUICK.
  • 00:27:43.718 --> 00:27:45.954
  • SO I MOVED FROMCALIFORNIA TO ACCEPT A
  • 00:27:46.054 --> 00:27:48.123
  • JOB AT TEXAS A&M IN 1992,AND WE WERE A LITTLE
  • 00:27:48.223 --> 00:27:51.626
  • CONCERNED EVEN THOUGH MYFATHER GREW UP IN TEXAS,
  • 00:27:51.726 --> 00:27:53.862
  • WE WERE A LITTLECONCERNED ABOUT BEING
  • 00:27:53.962 --> 00:27:55.563
  • AFRICAN AMERICAN.
  • 00:27:55.663 --> 00:27:56.998
  • DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SO MUCHCONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS
  • 00:27:57.098 --> 00:27:58.867
  • BEING FROM CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:27:58.967 --> 00:28:00.435
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:00.535 --> 00:28:01.870
  • THE STEREOTYPES.
  • 00:28:01.970 --> 00:28:03.104
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'MTALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:28:03.204 --> 00:28:04.305
  • THE STEREOTYPES OFUS CALIFORNIANS.
  • 00:28:04.405 --> 00:28:06.908
  • - MATT: FRUITS AND NUTS.
  • 00:28:07.008 --> 00:28:08.209
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:28:08.309 --> 00:28:09.377
  • DIDN'T FIT THE MOTIF OFWHAT I AFFECTIONATELY
  • 00:28:09.477 --> 00:28:11.813
  • REFER TO AS "THE REPUBLICOF TEXAS", WHICH I AM NOW
  • 00:28:11.913 --> 00:28:14.716
  • VERY PROUD TO BE ONE OFITS CITIZENS, BUT THE
  • 00:28:14.816 --> 00:28:17.185
  • POINT IS THOSESTEREOTYPES CAN LITERALLY
  • 00:28:17.285 --> 00:28:20.989
  • CONTINUE TO PERPETUATEIGNORANCE TO THE POINT
  • 00:28:21.089 --> 00:28:23.758
  • THAT ENTROPY SETS IN TOTHE POINT THAT WE DIE
  • 00:28:23.858 --> 00:28:26.661
  • LONG BEFORE WE DIE.
  • 00:28:26.761 --> 00:28:29.097
  • I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE,THEY'VE DIED, THEY'RE JUST
  • 00:28:29.197 --> 00:28:32.167
  • WAITING FOR THEFUNERAL TO TAKE PLACE.
  • 00:28:32.267 --> 00:28:34.536
  • ENTROPY, THE SECOND LAWOF THERMODYNAMICS, THAT'S
  • 00:28:34.636 --> 00:28:37.272
  • JUST ANYTHING MADE UP OFA PHYSICAL MATTER IS IN
  • 00:28:37.372 --> 00:28:39.874
  • THE PROCESS OF DECAYINGAND EVENTUAL CHAOS.
  • 00:28:39.974 --> 00:28:42.377
  • WE ARE SPIRIT BUT WEARE ALSO PHYSICAL.
  • 00:28:42.477 --> 00:28:45.280
  • WHAT DOES IGNORANCE DO?
  • 00:28:45.380 --> 00:28:47.448
  • IT PERPETUATES OURTRADITIONS THAT WE'VE
  • 00:28:47.549 --> 00:28:49.617
  • GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO WHILEAT THE SAME TIME SAYING
  • 00:28:49.717 --> 00:28:52.120
  • MATT, I DON'T WANT TOENTERTAIN ANYTHING YOU
  • 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:53.888
  • WANT TO DO, LAURIE I DON'TWANT TO ENTERTAIN ANYTHING
  • 00:28:53.988 --> 00:28:56.491
  • YOU HAVE TO SAY, ANYBODYFROM THAT COAST IS WRONG,
  • 00:28:56.591 --> 00:29:00.562
  • ANYBODY FROM THIS COASTIS WRONG, ANYBODY OVER
  • 00:29:00.662 --> 00:29:03.665
  • THERE IS WRONG, ANDSO WHAT DO WE DO?
  • 00:29:03.765 --> 00:29:06.301
  • NO WONDER THE BIBLE SAYSTHAT THE TRADITIONS OF
  • 00:29:06.401 --> 00:29:10.004
  • MEN MAKE THE WORDOF GOD OF NO AFFECT.
  • 00:29:10.104 --> 00:29:12.774
  • JUST IN TWO HOURS TODAY,I WOULD JUST TELL OUR
  • 00:29:12.874 --> 00:29:16.578
  • FAMILY, SPEND TWO TOTHREE HOURS AND JUST READ
  • 00:29:16.678 --> 00:29:19.380
  • THE BOOK OF MARK.
  • 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:20.782
  • SIXTEEN RIVETING CHAPTERSWITH ONE THEME, JESUS
  • 00:29:20.882 --> 00:29:24.385
  • CAME TO BE A SUFFERINGSERVANT TO OVERTURN THE
  • 00:29:24.485 --> 00:29:29.457
  • NORMATIVE PRACTICESOF A SOCIETY IN LOVE
  • 00:29:29.557 --> 00:29:32.227
  • WITH ITS OWN TRADITIONS.
  • 00:29:32.327 --> 00:29:33.795
  • - MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:29:33.895 --> 00:29:35.430
  • - THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:29:35.530 --> 00:29:37.198
  • - MATT AND LAURIE, DON'TYOU LONG FOR THE DAY,
  • 00:29:37.298 --> 00:29:40.001
  • AND I BELIEVE IT'S GONNAHAPPEN, WHERE WE CAN
  • 00:29:40.101 --> 00:29:42.337
  • GET PAST LABELS ANDLISTEN TO EACH OTHER?
  • 00:29:42.437 --> 00:29:47.075
  • YOU KNOW, DISSENSIONIS NOT A BAD THING.
  • 00:29:47.175 --> 00:29:49.744
  • OUR COUNTRY IN THE UNITEDSTATES, MANY COUNTRIES
  • 00:29:49.844 --> 00:29:51.880
  • THROUGHOUT THE WORLD INYOUR VIEWING AUDIENCE,
  • 00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:54.249
  • ADVANCED AS A RESULTOF DISSENSION.
  • 00:29:54.349 --> 00:29:56.351
  • DISSENSION ISNOT A BAD THING.
  • 00:29:56.451 --> 00:29:57.952
  • WHAT'S A BAD THING ISWHEN WE DON'T LISTEN TO
  • 00:29:58.052 --> 00:29:59.721
  • ONE ANOTHER. WHAT'SA BAD THING IS WHEN
  • 00:29:59.821 --> 00:30:01.389
  • WE DON'T SHOW CIVILITY.
  • 00:30:01.489 --> 00:30:03.391
  • YOU'RE NOT GONNABELIEVE THIS.
  • 00:30:03.491 --> 00:30:04.659
  • BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2019,SEVEN MONTHS AGO, I WAS
  • 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:10.064
  • ON CHARLES PAYNE'S SHOWTITLED "MAKING MONEY" AT
  • 00:30:10.164 --> 00:30:13.101
  • FOX IN NEW YORK, AND THEWHOLE SETUP FOR THE SHOW
  • 00:30:13.201 --> 00:30:16.170
  • WAS TO PIT A LIBERAL WITHA CONSERVATIVE AT THE
  • 00:30:16.271 --> 00:30:19.374
  • CHRISTMAS TABLE TO SEEWHAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE
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  • SURE THEY DIDN'TKILL EACH OTHER.
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  • AND I WAS CALLEDIN TO OFFER ADVICE.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • IS THAT-- IF MY DAD WASALIVE, IF YOUR DAD WAS
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  • ALIVE, IF YOURGRANDMOTHER WAS ALIVE,
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  • THEY'D GO WHAT?
  • 00:30:35.790 --> 00:30:37.792
  • THAT'S WHAT IT'S COMETO, THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A
  • 00:30:37.892 --> 00:30:40.895
  • DISAGREEMENT WITHOUTSOMEBODY PULLING OUT A
  • 00:30:40.995 --> 00:30:43.331
  • SHOTGUN. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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  • I REMEMBER WHEN THECURRENT PRESIDENT WAS
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  • ELECTED, I HAD A NUMBEROF AFRICAN AMERICAN
  • 00:30:49.037 --> 00:30:51.406
  • FRIENDS SAY THAT THEYWERE ASSAULTED, THEY WERE
  • 00:30:51.506 --> 00:30:55.009
  • ASSAULTED, THEY WERECALLED CERTAIN NAMES THAT
  • 00:30:55.109 --> 00:30:57.178
  • I REFUSE TO MENTIONON THIS AIR.
  • 00:30:57.278 --> 00:30:59.514
  • ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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  • WE'RE PART OF THE HUMANRACE BROUGHT TOGETHER BY
  • 00:31:01.182 --> 00:31:04.452
  • THE BLOOD OF JESUS, ANDI HEAR GOD, I HEAR A
  • 00:31:04.552 --> 00:31:08.022
  • CLARION CALL, STARTACTING LIKE IT.
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  • I THINK THAT THE PANDEMICAND THE RACIAL VIOLENCE
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  • OF THIS HOUR HAS BEEN AMAJOR WARNING FROM HEAVEN.
  • 00:31:15.396 --> 00:31:18.933
  • I THINK GOD'SFED UP WITH IT.
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  • I THINK 400 YEARS ISENOUGH. IT'S ENOUGH.
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  • DON'T GET CAUGHT UPWITH "WELL, IS RACISM
  • 00:31:25.106 --> 00:31:28.409
  • SYSTEMIC" BECAUSE YOU'REGONNA HAVE A WHOLE GROUP
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  • OF PEOPLE LIKE MEWHO WILL SAY YES.
  • 00:31:30.912 --> 00:31:33.614
  • YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER GROUPOF PEOPLE WHO WILL SAY NO.
  • 00:31:33.715 --> 00:31:36.250
  • SO IF WE CAN'T COMETOGETHER THERE, WHERE CAN
  • 00:31:36.351 --> 00:31:38.419
  • WE COME TOGETHER? THERE'SROOM AT THE CROSS.
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  • - BEAUTIFUL.
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  • - I HEARD TODAY YOU SAYIF YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN,
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  • START ACTING LIKE IT.
  • 00:31:45.293 --> 00:31:46.427
  • - START ACTING LIKE IT.
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  • YOU KNOW WHAT'SINTERESTING, THE CHURCH
  • 00:31:48.529 --> 00:31:50.498
  • AND Y'ALL BEEN TOSEMINARY, THE CHURCH
  • 00:31:50.598 --> 00:31:53.401
  • HISTORY BLEW ME AWAY.
  • 00:31:53.501 --> 00:31:54.702
  • IT'S A MIRACLEWE HAVE A CHURCH.
  • 00:31:54.802 --> 00:31:56.504
  • THE CHURCH HAS NEVER BEENUNIFIED ON THE SUBJECT OF
  • 00:31:56.604 --> 00:31:59.340
  • RACE. NEVER IN THE HISTORYOF THE UNITED STATES.
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  • NEVER UNIFIED.
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  • LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.
  • 00:32:03.711 --> 00:32:05.813
  • THE CHURCH HAS NEVERBEEN UNIFIED ON THE
  • 00:32:05.913 --> 00:32:08.816
  • SUBJECT OF RACE. NEVER.
  • 00:32:08.916 --> 00:32:11.119
  • WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITYRIGHT NOW WHEN YOU HAVE
  • 00:32:11.219 --> 00:32:14.889
  • THE WHOLE WORLD SAYINGWHEN YOU HAVE THE
  • 00:32:14.989 --> 00:32:17.558
  • DISENFRANCHISEDMILLENNIALS SAYING
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  • SHOW ME SOMETHING THATI HAVEN'T SEEN.
  • 00:32:20.294 --> 00:32:23.364
  • - SO WE HEARD YOU SAY,LAURIE JUST MENTIONED IT,
  • 00:32:23.464 --> 00:32:26.467
  • THAT IF YOU'RE SAYINGYOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, START
  • 00:32:26.567 --> 00:32:30.204
  • ACTING LIKE IT, AND YOUKNOW I HEARD A DEFINITION
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  • OF TAKING THE LORD'S NAMEIN VAIN IS NOT A SWEAR
  • 00:32:35.910 --> 00:32:41.315
  • WORD, IT'S CLAIMINGYOU'RE A CHRISTIAN AND
  • 00:32:41.416 --> 00:32:45.219
  • DOING THINGS IN THE NAMEOF CHRISTIANITY THAT
  • 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.056
  • ISN'T CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:32:48.156 --> 00:32:51.426
  • SO THAT WORD THERE ISREALLY MORE DON'T CARRY
  • 00:32:51.526 --> 00:32:56.597
  • THE NAME OF THE LORD WITHYOU AS A LABEL IN VAIN.
  • 00:32:56.697 --> 00:33:01.936
  • SO DON'T WEAR A COLLARAND ABUSE A CHILD.
  • 00:33:02.036 --> 00:33:06.274
  • DON'T-- OKAY, THAT ISTAKING THE LORD'S-- YOU'RE
  • 00:33:06.374 --> 00:33:09.010
  • SUGGESTING THAT IF WE'REGONNA SAY THAT WE'RE
  • 00:33:09.110 --> 00:33:12.847
  • BELIEVERS, THEN STARTACTING LIKE IT, AND WHAT
  • 00:33:12.947 --> 00:33:15.716
  • DID JESUS TELL US TO DO?
  • 00:33:15.817 --> 00:33:17.351
  • LOVE THE LORD WITH ALL OFOUR HEARTS AND MINDS,
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  • AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBORSAS OURSELVES.
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  • THAT'S REALLY A FIRSTCENTURY CHRISTIAN, THAT
  • 00:33:21.522 --> 00:33:24.492
  • IS THE ULTIMATE LABELTHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
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  • EITHER YOU WERE DOINGTHAT OR YOU WEREN'T.
  • 00:33:28.830 --> 00:33:31.332
  • - YOU WERE KNOWNBY YOUR LOVE.
  • 00:33:31.432 --> 00:33:32.767
  • - YOU HAVE TO BEKNOWN BY YOUR LOVE.
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  • FIRST CENTURY CHRISTIAN,THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
  • 00:33:34.435 --> 00:33:36.704
  • THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:33:36.804 --> 00:33:38.072
  • - YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:33:38.172 --> 00:33:39.307
  • - SO WHAT DOWE NEED TO HEAR?
  • 00:33:39.407 --> 00:33:43.077
  • WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANTLAURIE AND I TO HEAR?
  • 00:33:43.177 --> 00:33:47.348
  • WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT OURAUDIENCE TO HEAR THAT
  • 00:33:47.448 --> 00:33:50.084
  • WILL HELP POINT US ALL TOTHE RIGHT PLACE TO FIND
  • 00:33:50.184 --> 00:33:57.425
  • TRUE RESOLVE, NOT SOMEKIND OF KUMBAYA MOMENT.
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  • - AS LONG AS YOU HIDEBEHIND YOUR TRADITIONS,
  • 00:34:02.430 --> 00:34:05.967
  • I'M NOT SAYING YOU, BUTAS LONG AS WE HIDE BEHIND
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  • OUR TRADITIONS, YOU'LLALWAYS THINK THAT BROWN
  • 00:34:08.369 --> 00:34:10.938
  • AND BLACK PEOPLE AREPLAYING THE RACE CARD.
  • 00:34:11.038 --> 00:34:13.207
  • NO. WE'VE NEVER BEENINVITED TO THE POKER TABLE
  • 00:34:13.307 --> 00:34:15.776
  • TO PLAY ANY CARDS.
  • 00:34:15.877 --> 00:34:17.945
  • THE TABLE HAS ALWAYS BEENLIMITED GUESTS ONLY.
  • 00:34:18.045 --> 00:34:21.382
  • WE HAD NO SAY SO INTHE FRAMING OF THE
  • 00:34:21.482 --> 00:34:24.118
  • CONSTITUTION OFTHE UNITED STATES.
  • 00:34:24.218 --> 00:34:25.987
  • WE HAD NO SAY SO IN THEPOLITICAL SYSTEM WHATSOEVER.
  • 00:34:26.087 --> 00:34:30.391
  • AND I THINK THAT THISTIME IS CALLING US TO,
  • 00:34:30.491 --> 00:34:34.662
  • ALL OF US TO LISTENMORE AND TO TALK LESS.
  • 00:34:34.762 --> 00:34:37.532
  • WHAT I WOULD SAY TOPEOPLE IS RESIST THE
  • 00:34:37.632 --> 00:34:40.568
  • TEMPTATION TO THROW OUT AQUICK LABEL SO THAT YOU
  • 00:34:40.668 --> 00:34:44.772
  • CAN ADVOCATE YOURARGUMENT AND ASK PEOPLE
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  • TELL ME WHY YOU BELIEVEWHAT YOU BELIEVE?
  • 00:34:48.442 --> 00:34:50.811
  • SHARE WITH ME WHAT IT ISTHAT YOU'RE FEELING, WHAT
  • 00:34:50.912 --> 00:34:54.849
  • YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH,WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
  • 00:34:54.949 --> 00:34:57.585
  • I THINK PEOPLE WOULDLITERALLY BE SHOCKED,
  • 00:34:57.685 --> 00:35:00.354
  • JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKINGOFF CAMERA WITH THE OTHER
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  • GENTLEMAN ON THETBN BOARD ABOUT OUR
  • 00:35:03.324 --> 00:35:05.893
  • EXPERIENCES IF HE BEINGWHITE AND ME BEING BLACK
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  • WERE TO DRIVE OVERNIGHTAND WALK INTO A
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  • CONVENIENCE STORE AT 3:00O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING,
  • 00:35:12.033 --> 00:35:13.801
  • TWO COMPLETELYDIFFERENT REACTIONS.
  • 00:35:13.901 --> 00:35:17.104
  • WHAT I WOULD SAY TOPEOPLE IN LOVE IS WALK IN
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  • SOMEBODY ELSE'S SHOES.
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  • I WOULD SAY THAT TO MYBLACK AND BROWN FRIENDS.
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  • I WOULD SAY THAT TO MYPROTEST FRIENDS AND I
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  • WOULD SAY THAT TOTHE FRIENDS THAT ARE
  • 00:35:26.814 --> 00:35:29.116
  • CRITICIZING THEPROTESTORS.
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  • THIS IS NO LONGER THETIME TO JUST HIDE BEHIND
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  • THAT WHICH ISCOMFORTABLE.
  • 00:35:37.024 --> 00:35:38.492
  • ANYBODY CAN THROW OUTRACIAL SLURS, RIGHT?
  • 00:35:38.593 --> 00:35:41.162
  • ANYBODY CAN MAKE PRONOUNCEMENTSBASED ON LABELS.
  • 00:35:41.262 --> 00:35:44.532
  • ANYBODY CAN HIDE BEHINDTHE CLOAK AND THE
  • 00:35:44.632 --> 00:35:47.602
  • DAGGER OF A TRADITION.
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  • ANYBODY CAN DO THAT, BUTI'M LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY
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  • THAT HAS THE CHRIST INTHEM TO HUMBLE THEMSELVES
  • 00:35:53.341 --> 00:35:58.713
  • AND SEARCH THEIR HEART,AND THEN THE ABILITY, THE
  • 00:35:58.813 --> 00:36:03.851
  • DESIRE, THE GREAT DESIRE,THE GODLY DESIRE TO SAY
  • 00:36:03.951 --> 00:36:08.456
  • I NEED TO GROW INMY UNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:36:08.556 --> 00:36:11.092
  • I TOLD BOTH OF YOU ALL INTHE GREEN ROOM, THE TBN
  • 00:36:11.192 --> 00:36:14.562
  • MOMENT THAT MOVED METHE MOST HASN'T BEEN
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  • WHEN I WAS ON THE SHOW.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:36:19.667 --> 00:36:21.068
  • HASN'T BEEN WHEN BISHOPJAKES WAS ON THE SHOW.
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  • I MEAN THOSE ARESOME GREAT MOMENTS.
  • 00:36:23.004 --> 00:36:24.972
  • THE MOMENT THAT MOVED METHE MOST WAS WHEN YOUR
  • 00:36:25.072 --> 00:36:27.275
  • FRIEND, PASTOR RICHWILKERSON SAID WE NEED
  • 00:36:27.375 --> 00:36:33.147
  • TO BE QUIET AND LISTEN.
  • 00:36:33.247 --> 00:36:36.050
  • NOW YOU KNOW WHAT, THATPRONOUN IN THAT SENTENCE,
  • 00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:38.686
  • WE, THAT AIN'TJUST WHITE FOLKS.
  • 00:36:38.786 --> 00:36:41.589
  • THAT'S ALL OF US.
  • 00:36:41.689 --> 00:36:43.758
  • WE ALL HAVE OWNERSHIP,WHICH MEANS WE ALL NEED
  • 00:36:43.858 --> 00:36:46.727
  • TO LISTEN, AND I THINKTHAT I WOULD SAY TO
  • 00:36:46.827 --> 00:36:49.530
  • WHITES IS THAT FOR TOOLONG YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:36:49.630 --> 00:36:53.267
  • DOING THE TALKING.
  • 00:36:53.367 --> 00:36:55.369
  • FOR TOO LONG YOU'VE BEENCREATING AND ADDING TO A
  • 00:36:55.469 --> 00:37:00.741
  • LOT OF THE ISSUES WITHOUTEVEN REALIZING IT
  • 00:37:00.841 --> 00:37:03.744
  • BECAUSE, CAN I GIVEYOU AN EXAMPLE?
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  • - PLEASE.
  • 00:37:06.047 --> 00:37:07.181
  • - WE TALK ALL WEEK LONGIN OUR FAMILY ABOUT WHAT
  • 00:37:07.281 --> 00:37:09.116
  • OUR RESPONSE WILL BE TOWHAT THE RESPONSE IS
  • 00:37:09.216 --> 00:37:11.986
  • SHOULD ONE OF OUR BOYSGET PULLED OVER AND THEN
  • 00:37:12.086 --> 00:37:15.156
  • YOU GO TO A PULPIT ANDTHERE'S SILENCE IN THE
  • 00:37:15.256 --> 00:37:18.059
  • PULPIT. FOR TOO LONG WE'VEALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN.
  • 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.729
  • I BELONG TO A CHURCHWHERE THE WHITE PASTOR
  • 00:37:21.829 --> 00:37:24.165
  • REFUSES TO BE SILENT,AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
  • 00:37:24.265 --> 00:37:26.967
  • THERE'S A COST WITH THAT,BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
  • 00:37:27.068 --> 00:37:29.770
  • BUT FOR TOO LONG WE'VEBEEN WILLING ACCOMPLICES
  • 00:37:29.870 --> 00:37:34.608
  • TO THIS NOTION OFUNADDRESSED RACISM IN OUR
  • 00:37:34.709 --> 00:37:40.715
  • SOCIETY, AND HERE'STHE BEAUTIFUL PART.
  • 00:37:40.815 --> 00:37:44.352
  • IF THERE IS ABEAUTIFUL PART.
  • 00:37:44.452 --> 00:37:46.387
  • THE BEAUTIFUL PART ISTHAT GOD SO DESIRES FOR
  • 00:37:46.487 --> 00:37:51.392
  • US TO HUMBLE OURSELVES,2 CHRONICLES 7:14
  • 00:37:51.492 --> 00:37:56.464
  • WASN'T WRITTEN FORYOUR NEIGHBOR, IT WAS
  • 00:37:56.564 --> 00:37:58.165
  • WRITTEN FOR YOU, RIGHT?
  • 00:37:58.265 --> 00:38:00.267
  • AND SO THE POINT THAT I'MTRYING TO MAKE TO MYSELF,
  • 00:38:00.368 --> 00:38:03.871
  • TO MY WHITE BROTHERS ANDSISTERS IS IT HAS TO
  • 00:38:03.971 --> 00:38:07.174
  • BEGIN WITH US, AND ITHAS TO BEGIN WITH LAYING
  • 00:38:07.274 --> 00:38:10.077
  • ASIDE THE WEIGHTS, LAYINGASIDE THE WEAPONS, LAYING
  • 00:38:10.177 --> 00:38:15.049
  • ASIDE ANYTHING THAT WOULDCAUSE YOU FROM NOT BEING
  • 00:38:15.149 --> 00:38:19.053
  • IN RIGHT RELATIONSHIPWITH ALMIGHTY GOD WHICH
  • 00:38:19.153 --> 00:38:21.522
  • IN TURN WOULD CAUSE YOUFROM NOT LISTENING TO
  • 00:38:21.622 --> 00:38:24.358
  • YOUR BROTHER ANDTO YOUR SISTER.
  • 00:38:24.458 --> 00:38:25.960
  • YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRYIS TODAY TO THE YOUNG
  • 00:38:26.060 --> 00:38:28.129
  • PEOPLE, FROM THE YOUNGPEOPLE? LISTEN TO US.
  • 00:38:28.229 --> 00:38:31.799
  • NOW, SOME OF THEIRPROTESTS ARE MISGUIDED.
  • 00:38:31.899 --> 00:38:34.502
  • WE'VE HAD SOME LAPSEABOUT THE YOUNGER FOLKS,
  • 00:38:34.602 --> 00:38:38.606
  • BUT SOME OF THEIRPROTESTS ARE DEFINITELY
  • 00:38:38.706 --> 00:38:41.242
  • WITHOUT LEADERSHIP, BUTWHY ARE THEY PROTESTING?
  • 00:38:41.342 --> 00:38:45.813
  • NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUTTHE FACT THAT THESE FOLKS
  • 00:38:45.913 --> 00:38:48.983
  • ALL OVER THE WORLD ARECRYING OUT LISTEN TO US.
  • 00:38:49.083 --> 00:38:53.053
  • THE SAME THING JESUS WASSAYING IN THE GOSPELS,
  • 00:38:53.154 --> 00:38:57.291
  • LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN TOTHE MARGINALIZED,
  • 00:38:57.391 --> 00:39:01.996
  • STOP CONDEMNING THOSE WHOARE DISENFRANCHISED,
  • 00:39:02.096 --> 00:39:05.566
  • STOP RIDICULING THOSE WHO AREON THE PERIPHERAL OF SOCIETY.
  • 00:39:05.666 --> 00:39:09.069
  • IF I HEAR ONE MORE PERSONSAY WELL YOU'VE HAD EVERY
  • 00:39:09.170 --> 00:39:12.706
  • OPPORTUNITY THATEVERYBODY ELSE HAS.
  • 00:39:12.807 --> 00:39:16.444
  • IT'S NOT TRUE.THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
  • 00:39:16.544 --> 00:39:19.747
  • THERE ARE VESTIGES OFSLAVERY THAT ARE STILL
  • 00:39:19.847 --> 00:39:23.417
  • AFFECTING US TODAY.
  • 00:39:23.517 --> 00:39:25.753
  • YOU KNOW WHAT, SLAVERYWAS LEGAL BUT IT WASN'T
  • 00:39:25.853 --> 00:39:28.522
  • JUST, SO IF YOU LOOK ATPSALM 89, YOU SEE THE
  • 00:39:28.622 --> 00:39:32.693
  • TWIN TOWERS ASPASTOR EVANS SAYS,
  • 00:39:32.793 --> 00:39:34.962
  • OF RIGHTEOUSNESSAND JUSTICE.
  • 00:39:35.062 --> 00:39:38.265
  • I JUST WANT FOR MYSELF,FOR MY WHITE BROTHERS AND
  • 00:39:38.365 --> 00:39:43.070
  • SISTERS, TOREAD THE WORD.
  • 00:39:43.170 --> 00:39:45.606
  • YOU KNOW IT'S AMAZING,JESUS WAS RADICAL.
  • 00:39:45.706 --> 00:39:49.677
  • HE WAS OFFENSIVE.
  • 00:39:49.777 --> 00:39:51.946
  • HE WASN'T PLAYING WITHBUNNIES AND PETTING SHEEP.
  • 00:39:52.046 --> 00:39:56.317
  • WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WEFOUND ANYWHERE IN THE
  • 00:39:56.417 --> 00:39:59.787
  • WORLD A RADICAL CHURCHWHO WAS CRAZY ENOUGH TO
  • 00:39:59.887 --> 00:40:04.391
  • FOLLOW THEWORDS OF JESUS.
  • 00:40:04.492 --> 00:40:07.761
  • JUST IMAGINE THATFOR A MOMENT. ANYWAY.
  • 00:40:07.862 --> 00:40:12.666
  • I DON'T KNOW IF IANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
  • 00:40:12.766 --> 00:40:15.236
  • - I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER IT.
  • 00:40:15.336 --> 00:40:16.937
  • I'M SO CAPTIVATEDBY THE MOMENT,
  • 00:40:17.037 --> 00:40:19.373
  • I DON'T EVEN REMEMBERWHAT I ASKED.
  • 00:40:19.473 --> 00:40:21.175
  • - IT'S LIKE WE'RESITTING ON THE PORCH.
  • 00:40:21.275 --> 00:40:23.677
  • - GOLLY!
  • 00:40:23.777 --> 00:40:24.845
  • - WHERE IS THE SWEET TEA!
  • 00:40:24.945 --> 00:40:26.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:27.882
  • - SO FIRST OF ALL, RICKRIGSBY, I LOVE YOU MAN.
  • 00:40:27.982 --> 00:40:32.786
  • THIS IS JUST LIKE SITTINGWITH A FRIEND ON A PORCH
  • 00:40:32.887 --> 00:40:37.591
  • AND YOU KNOW THERE IS AUNIQUENESS TO OUR SEASON,
  • 00:40:37.691 --> 00:40:43.531
  • BUT IS IT-- LOOK, YOU HAVETO AGREE WITH THIS,
  • 00:40:43.631 --> 00:40:49.403
  • JESUS IS THE ANSWER, OKAY?
  • 00:40:49.503 --> 00:40:51.438
  • THE ANDRAE CROUCH SONG,JESUS IS THE ANSWER
  • 00:40:51.539 --> 00:40:53.207
  • FOR THE WORLD TODAY.SO THAT IS THE ANSWER.
  • 00:40:53.307 --> 00:40:58.679
  • AND IF THERE'S SOMEONE--YOU'RE AGREEING WITH ME,
  • 00:40:58.779 --> 00:41:03.384
  • RIGHT, JESUS IS THE ANSWER.
  • 00:41:03.484 --> 00:41:04.952
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:41:05.052 --> 00:41:06.220
  • - SO ULTIMATELY, IFSOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE
  • 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.958
  • FAITH AND IF THEY'RE NOTREALLY LOOKING AT TODAY'S
  • 00:41:11.058 --> 00:41:15.195
  • TROUBLE, WHATEVER IT IS,THROUGH THE EYES OF A
  • 00:41:15.296 --> 00:41:18.098
  • BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW,IT'S GONNA GET WORSE.
  • 00:41:18.198 --> 00:41:24.772
  • SO THAT HAS TO BESOMETHING THAT WE DO NOW.
  • 00:41:24.872 --> 00:41:30.444
  • SO IF SOMEBODY HASSTOPPED THAT IS LISTENING
  • 00:41:30.544 --> 00:41:37.051
  • TO A REASONABLEEXPLANATION OF ALL OF
  • 00:41:37.151 --> 00:41:42.656
  • THIS AND IS HEARINGREASON, OKAY, AND THEY
  • 00:41:42.756 --> 00:41:47.394
  • ARE ALSO HEARING THATJESUS IS THE ANSWER,
  • 00:41:47.494 --> 00:41:51.131
  • GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:41:51.231 --> 00:41:53.634
  • LOOK AT THE AUDIENCETHERE AND GIVE THEM AN
  • 00:41:53.734 --> 00:41:56.437
  • OPPORTUNITY TO FINDEVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW
  • 00:41:56.537 --> 00:41:59.607
  • TO BE THE ANSWER ANDHIS NAME IS JESUS.
  • 00:41:59.707 --> 00:42:01.542
  • DO THAT FOR US.
  • 00:42:01.642 --> 00:42:02.676
  • - THANK YOU BROTHER MATT.
  • 00:42:02.776 --> 00:42:04.311
  • OH, FRIEND WHAT APRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO
  • 00:42:04.411 --> 00:42:06.547
  • JUST SAY ONETHING TO YOU.
  • 00:42:06.647 --> 00:42:11.085
  • I HAVE TRIED JESUSAND HE'S TRUE.
  • 00:42:11.185 --> 00:42:15.055
  • JESUS TRUMPS RICKRIGSBY'S AGENDA.
  • 00:42:15.155 --> 00:42:19.560
  • JESUS TRUMPS EVERY SINGLELABEL THAT I CLAIM.
  • 00:42:19.660 --> 00:42:24.865
  • JESUS TRUMPS THE ENTIRETYOF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
  • 00:42:24.965 --> 00:42:29.536
  • I'VE BEENPRIVILEGED TO GAIN.
  • 00:42:29.637 --> 00:42:31.739
  • JESUS TRUMPS EVERYONE OF MY RACIAL
  • 00:42:31.839 --> 00:42:35.209
  • PROFILING EXPERIENCES.
  • 00:42:35.309 --> 00:42:38.112
  • JESUS TRUMPS THE HORRORAND THE CALAMITY THAT MY
  • 00:42:38.212 --> 00:42:43.250
  • GREAT GRANDPARENTS ANDGREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS
  • 00:42:43.350 --> 00:42:46.720
  • AND PARENTS FACED IN AWORLD THAT WAS JUST UGLY
  • 00:42:46.820 --> 00:42:53.027
  • TO ITS BROWN ANDBLACK PEOPLE.
  • 00:42:53.127 --> 00:42:55.496
  • JESUS TRUMPS ALLOF THAT PAIN.
  • 00:42:55.596 --> 00:43:00.100
  • THERE IS HOPE AT THEREVELATION FOUND IN JESUS.
  • 00:43:00.200 --> 00:43:04.238
  • IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT,I WOULDN'T BE SITTING
  • 00:43:04.338 --> 00:43:06.807
  • HERE ON THIS NETWORK.
  • 00:43:06.907 --> 00:43:08.409
  • I HAVE TO BELIEVE THATA BETTER DAY IS COMING.
  • 00:43:08.509 --> 00:43:12.279
  • MARTIN KING SAID WE'REEITHER GONNA LEARN TO
  • 00:43:12.379 --> 00:43:15.149
  • LIVE TOGETHER AS BROTHERSAND SISTERS OR WE'LL
  • 00:43:15.249 --> 00:43:18.419
  • PERISH TOGETHER AS FOOLS.
  • 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:20.220
  • GOD IS GIVING US ONE MORECHANCE TO LAY ASIDE THE
  • 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:23.991
  • WEIGHTS AND TO MAKETHE WORD OF GOD HIS
  • 00:43:24.091 --> 00:43:29.496
  • AUTHORITY, HISAUTHORITY, IN OUR LIVES.
  • 00:43:29.596 --> 00:43:34.168
  • FRIENDS, WOULD YOU DO IT?
  • 00:43:34.268 --> 00:43:36.036
  • ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAYJESUS, COME INTO MY LIFE.
  • 00:43:36.136 --> 00:43:39.473
  • YOU CAN EVENSAY I'M SCARED.
  • 00:43:39.573 --> 00:43:41.508
  • I'M SCARED TO LETGO OF TRADITIONS.
  • 00:43:41.608 --> 00:43:44.178
  • I'M SCARED TO LET GO OFBELIEFS. I GET THAT.
  • 00:43:44.278 --> 00:43:47.448
  • PLEASE, RIGHT NOW SAYJESUS, COME INTO MY LIFE
  • 00:43:47.548 --> 00:43:51.351
  • IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOUNEVER HAVE BEFORE AND BE
  • 00:43:51.452 --> 00:43:54.054
  • REAL TO ME, AND REVEALYOUR NATURE TO ME.
  • 00:43:54.154 --> 00:43:59.126
  • HOLY SPIRIT, FILLME RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:43:59.226 --> 00:44:01.829
  • PLEASE DO THAT.
  • 00:44:01.929 --> 00:44:03.530
  • I'M TELLING YOU FRIEND,GUESS WHERE HE'LL GUIDE YOU?
  • 00:44:03.630 --> 00:44:06.767
  • HE'LL GUIDE YOU TO YOURKNEES WHERE YOU WILL DIE
  • 00:44:06.867 --> 00:44:10.137
  • DAILY SO THAT YOU CANLIVE VICTORIOUSLY FOR
  • 00:44:10.237 --> 00:44:13.674
  • HIM, NOT SEEING LIBERALOR CONSERVATIVE, OR
  • 00:44:13.774 --> 00:44:18.879
  • BLACK, BROWN OR WHITE,NOT SEEING THE PAIN OF
  • 00:44:18.979 --> 00:44:22.583
  • YOUR ANCESTORS BUTTHE HOPE OF GLORY.
  • 00:44:22.683 --> 00:44:25.552
  • FRIEND, THAT'S THEONLY WAY I STAY SANE.
  • 00:44:25.652 --> 00:44:28.756
  • I SEE THE SAME NEWS YOU SEE.I HEAR THE COMMENTS
  • 00:44:28.856 --> 00:44:32.726
  • FROM MY FRIENDSTHAT MAKE ME CRY.
  • 00:44:32.826 --> 00:44:36.930
  • BUT MY HOPE IS IN NOTHINGLESS THAN JESUS
  • 00:44:37.030 --> 00:44:41.401
  • BLOOD AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  • 00:44:41.502 --> 00:44:44.071
  • - MATT: THANK YOU LORD.
  • 00:44:44.171 --> 00:44:45.839
  • MIGHTY GOD.
  • 00:44:45.939 --> 00:44:48.275
  • - I DON'T KNOW IF IANSWERED THE CALL,
  • 00:44:48.375 --> 00:44:50.310
  • BUT I TELL YOU THIS,JESUS WILL.
  • 00:44:50.410 --> 00:44:53.080
  • YOU CALL ON HIM.
  • 00:44:53.180 --> 00:44:55.415
  • THOSE OF YOU WHO AREINDIFFERENT, CALL ON HIM.
  • 00:44:55.516 --> 00:44:58.252
  • THOSE OF YOU WHO ARESCARED AND DON'T WANT TO
  • 00:44:58.352 --> 00:45:02.156
  • SPEAK OUT, CALL ON JESUS.
  • 00:45:02.256 --> 00:45:04.258
  • ASK JESUS WHAT HEWANTS YOU TO DO.
  • 00:45:04.358 --> 00:45:06.593
  • WE'RE ALL TO PAYA PRICE DAILY.
  • 00:45:06.693 --> 00:45:09.530
  • THAT'S CALLED BEINGCRUCIFIED DAILY.
  • 00:45:09.630 --> 00:45:13.033
  • GOD IS CALLING EVERYSINGLE ONE OF YOU
  • 00:45:13.133 --> 00:45:16.804
  • LISTENING TODO SOMETHING.
  • 00:45:16.904 --> 00:45:19.940
  • THIS IS NOT THE TIME TOBE INDIFFERENT OR SILENT.
  • 00:45:20.040 --> 00:45:22.876
  • THIS IS THE TIME TO SAYOH, WRETCHED MAN THAT I
  • 00:45:22.976 --> 00:45:25.779
  • AM, WHO WILL DELIVER MEFROM THIS BODY OF DEATH
  • 00:45:25.879 --> 00:45:29.216
  • THAT I MAY GLORIFY YOUIN EVERYTHING THAT I DO?
  • 00:45:29.316 --> 00:45:32.953
  • THAT'S WHAT GOD IS SAYINGTO THIS GENERATION.
  • 00:45:33.053 --> 00:45:37.324
  • WILL WE LISTEN?WILL WE LISTEN?
  • 00:45:37.424 --> 00:45:40.527
  • WILL WE LISTEN?
  • 00:45:40.627 --> 00:45:42.462
  • BECAUSE WHEN WE DO, THEHEALING WILL OCCUR HERE,
  • 00:45:42.563 --> 00:45:46.733
  • AND WHEN WE SEE HEALINGHERE, I BELIEVE MATT AND
  • 00:45:46.834 --> 00:45:50.737
  • LAURIE, WE'LL SEE IT OUTTHERE IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
  • 00:45:50.838 --> 00:46:01.515
  • - SELAH. RICK...
  • 00:46:01.615 --> 00:46:06.086
  • - DID I MAKETHAT UGLY FACE?
  • 00:46:06.186 --> 00:46:09.723
  • - YOU DID. YEAH.
  • 00:46:09.823 --> 00:46:12.159
  • I GUESS THE QUESTION ISARE YOU OKAY WITH WOMEN
  • 00:46:12.259 --> 00:46:16.230
  • PILOTS NOW IN 2020?
  • 00:46:16.330 --> 00:46:19.967
  • HAVE YOU---HAVE YOUTAKEN YOUR OWN ADVICE?
  • 00:46:20.067 --> 00:46:26.406
  • - OH, YES I HAVE BROTHER.
  • 00:46:26.506 --> 00:46:28.609
  • YES, I HAVE. I'M GOOD.
  • 00:46:28.709 --> 00:46:30.944
  • - DOESN'T IT FEEL GOODTO JUST SIT IN THE
  • 00:46:31.044 --> 00:46:36.183
  • PRESENCE OF THE LORD?
  • 00:46:36.283 --> 00:46:37.551
  • DOESN'T IT JUST FEEL GOODTO BREAK BREAD WITH ONE
  • 00:46:37.651 --> 00:46:42.089
  • ANOTHER. DOESN'T IT FEELGOOD TO COME AND SIT HERE?
  • 00:46:42.189 --> 00:46:45.893
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT ITFEELS LIKE IN YOUR LIVING
  • 00:46:45.993 --> 00:46:49.529
  • ROOM OR YOUR JAIL CELL ORWHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHING
  • 00:46:49.630 --> 00:46:53.233
  • THIS PROGRAM, BUT RIGHTHERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S
  • 00:46:53.333 --> 00:46:56.970
  • AN UNABIDING PRESENCE OFGOD HERE AND OF LOVE AND
  • 00:46:57.070 --> 00:47:02.409
  • OF GOODNESS, AND YOUKNOW WHAT, IF THAT COULD
  • 00:47:02.509 --> 00:47:05.012
  • SPILL OUT INTO THESTREETS, RICK,
  • 00:47:05.112 --> 00:47:08.749
  • YOU'VE TAPPED INTO IT.
  • 00:47:08.849 --> 00:47:11.652
  • THERE IS A FEELINGIN THIS STUDIO OF
  • 00:47:11.752 --> 00:47:18.625
  • PERFECTION, AND IT'STHE PERSON OF JESUS.
  • 00:47:18.725 --> 00:47:23.163
  • WE'VE BEEN MINISTERING TOOURSELVES BECAUSE OF HIM.
  • 00:47:23.263 --> 00:47:28.235
  • - JESUS SAYS THAT TWOOR THREE ARE GATHERED
  • 00:47:28.335 --> 00:47:31.738
  • TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT ILOVE ABOUT TBN, THAT THIS
  • 00:47:31.838 --> 00:47:36.343
  • ISN'T JUST US THREE,IT'S ALL OF US HERE.
  • 00:47:36.443 --> 00:47:39.846
  • WE'RE WITH YOU, YOU'REWITH US, AND JESUS SAYS
  • 00:47:39.947 --> 00:47:43.417
  • WHERE TWO OR THREE, THEREAM I IN THE MIDST OF YOU.
  • 00:47:43.517 --> 00:47:46.586
  • AND THAT ISPERFECT HEALING.
  • 00:47:46.687 --> 00:47:49.356
  • THAT IS PERFECT WHOLENESS.THAT IS PERFECT GRACE.
  • 00:47:49.456 --> 00:47:53.060
  • THAT'S PERFECT SALVATION.
  • 00:47:53.160 --> 00:47:55.262
  • THAT'S PERFECT HEALINGACROSS THE BOARD THAT IF
  • 00:47:55.362 --> 00:47:59.466
  • YOU HAVE THE HOPE INJESUS CHRIST, THE LOVE,
  • 00:47:59.566 --> 00:48:04.938
  • THE AGAPE LOVE, WE GETHIS LOVE, WE GET HIS
  • 00:48:05.038 --> 00:48:07.474
  • FAITH, WHEN WE TAKE ON,IT SAYS I AM IN CHRIST
  • 00:48:07.574 --> 00:48:11.778
  • AND IN CHRIST I WILLDWELL, I AM IN HIM, YOU
  • 00:48:11.878 --> 00:48:16.650
  • ARE IN HIM, WE ARE ALLIN CHRIST, AND IF WE CAN
  • 00:48:16.750 --> 00:48:20.787
  • WALK THAT OUT, AND IFYOU PROFESS CHRIST AS YOUR
  • 00:48:20.887 --> 00:48:25.325
  • LEADER, AS YOUR MASTERAND YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR,
  • 00:48:25.425 --> 00:48:28.795
  • THEN ACT LIKE IT IN THEWORD OF RICK RIGSBY,
  • 00:48:28.895 --> 00:48:32.232
  • ACT LIKE IT. TAKE ITTO THE STREETS.
  • 00:48:32.332 --> 00:48:35.068
  • TAKE IT TO YOUR FAMILY.
  • 00:48:35.168 --> 00:48:36.903
  • TAKE IT TO YOURCOMMUNITY.
  • 00:48:37.004 --> 00:48:38.472
  • TAKE IT TO YOURWORKPLACE.
  • 00:48:38.572 --> 00:48:40.140
  • TAKE THE LOVE OF GOD,TAKE YOURSELF IN CHRIST
  • 00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:43.777
  • TO YOUR LIFE, TO YOURWORLD AND LET'S CHANGE
  • 00:48:43.877 --> 00:48:49.316
  • THE WORLD TAKINGIT TO THE STREETS.
  • 00:48:49.416 --> 00:48:51.651
  • THAT'S WHATWE'RE GONNA DO.
  • 00:48:51.752 --> 00:48:53.520
  • RICK, WE'RE GONNADO IT TOGETHER.
  • 00:48:53.620 --> 00:48:55.389
  • IT'S GONNA HAPPENON OUR WATCH.
  • 00:48:55.489 --> 00:48:57.424
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:48:57.524 --> 00:48:58.892
  • - THE UNITY OFTHE BODY OF CHRIST.
  • 00:48:58.992 --> 00:49:00.527
  • - YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RERIGHT SISTER LAURIE.
  • 00:49:00.627 --> 00:49:02.362
  • WE CAN ALL QUOTE "AND THEWORD OF GOD BECAME FLESH
  • 00:49:02.462 --> 00:49:05.298
  • AND BLOOD ANDDWELLED AMONG US."
  • 00:49:05.399 --> 00:49:07.134
  • I LOVE THE WAY EUGENEPETERSON SAYS IT IN THE
  • 00:49:07.234 --> 00:49:08.935
  • MESSAGE, "AND THE WORDBECAME FLESH AND MOVED
  • 00:49:09.036 --> 00:49:12.005
  • INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD."
  • 00:49:12.105 --> 00:49:13.974
  • THAT'S EXACTLY WHATYOU'RE SAYING.
  • 00:49:14.074 --> 00:49:15.709
  • THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TODO AND THAT'S EACH
  • 00:49:15.809 --> 00:49:17.544
  • AND EVERY ONE OF US.
  • 00:49:17.644 --> 00:49:19.346
  • I DON'T THINK WE SHOULDEXPECT ANYTHING TO CHANGE
  • 00:49:19.446 --> 00:49:22.549
  • UNTIL WE ALLOWGOD TO CHANGE US.
  • 00:49:22.649 --> 00:49:25.585
  • - HOW DO WE STAND,BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED A
  • 00:49:25.685 --> 00:49:31.024
  • WHILE AGO THAT YOU'VEBEEN SURPRISED BY EVEN
  • 00:49:31.124 --> 00:49:34.294
  • YOUR BROTHERS ANDSISTERS, FRIENDS THAT WE
  • 00:49:34.394 --> 00:49:36.129
  • LOVE AND WHAT THEY HAVESAID ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:49:36.229 --> 00:49:39.032
  • IT'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU ANDWHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH
  • 00:49:39.132 --> 00:49:44.237
  • JESUS, YOU KNOW, WITH THEWORDS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING
  • 00:49:44.337 --> 00:49:48.542
  • TOGETHER. HOW CAN WE STANDUP FOR THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:49:48.642 --> 00:49:52.212
  • GOD HAS CALLED US TODO AND DO IT IN LOVE.
  • 00:49:52.312 --> 00:49:56.650
  • - YOU KNOW, THAT IS THEMILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.
  • 00:49:56.750 --> 00:49:59.319
  • I NOW SEE THE GENIUS OF ATHIRD GRADE DROPOUT AND A
  • 00:49:59.419 --> 00:50:02.722
  • COUNTRY MOTHER WHO WOULDSAY WELL, SON, NOW YOU
  • 00:50:02.823 --> 00:50:05.325
  • KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THEIRPOINT OF VIEW, AND YOU'VE
  • 00:50:05.425 --> 00:50:08.228
  • JUST GOT TO KEEP GOINGWITH YOUR HEAD LIFTED UP.
  • 00:50:08.328 --> 00:50:11.965
  • YOU KNOW, I AM LEARNING,EVERY DAY I GET AN EMAIL
  • 00:50:12.065 --> 00:50:15.969
  • THAT JUST MAKES ME CRYFROM GOOD CHRISTIANS,
  • 00:50:16.069 --> 00:50:20.273
  • FROM WELL-INTENDEDCHRISTIANS WHO ARE SAYING
  • 00:50:20.373 --> 00:50:24.111
  • SOME HORRIBLE THINGSBECAUSE OF A POLITICAL
  • 00:50:24.211 --> 00:50:27.447
  • BENT, AND I JUST THINKWHAT JESUS, WHAT JESUS
  • 00:50:27.547 --> 00:50:34.588
  • ARE YOU READING ABOUT?
  • 00:50:34.688 --> 00:50:38.058
  • CLEARLY YOU'RE NOTREADING ABOUT THE ONE WHO
  • 00:50:38.158 --> 00:50:40.827
  • STOPPED AT AWELL IN SAMARIA.
  • 00:50:40.927 --> 00:50:44.598
  • WHAT JESUS ARE YOUREADING ABOUT?
  • 00:50:44.698 --> 00:50:47.267
  • AND SO TO ANSWER YOURQUESTION, I BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:50:47.367 --> 00:50:50.070
  • I WAS TRAINED BYGENIUSES, A DROPOUT,
  • 00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:55.642
  • TO SAY WELL SON, KEEPMOVING, KEEP YOUR HEAD
  • 00:50:55.742 --> 00:50:59.579
  • UP, KEEP LOOKING TOCHRIST, KEEP LOOKING
  • 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.617
  • BECAUSE LAURIE, I'M GONNATELL YOU, IF I FOCUS ON
  • 00:51:03.717 --> 00:51:07.521
  • THE UGLINESS THAT I READAND SEE EVERY DAY,
  • 00:51:07.621 --> 00:51:11.525
  • I WOULD BE USELESS.
  • 00:51:11.625 --> 00:51:13.360
  • I DON'T WANT TO BEUSELESS IN THE KINGDOM.
  • 00:51:13.460 --> 00:51:16.096
  • I WANT TO BE THAT TREETHAT BEARS FRUIT.
  • 00:51:16.196 --> 00:51:18.732
  • SO MY PLEDGE IS UNTIL THEDAY I DIE, I PRAY THAT I
  • 00:51:18.832 --> 00:51:22.702
  • DIE DAILY UNTIL THE DAYTHAT I PHYSICALLY DIE SO
  • 00:51:22.802 --> 00:51:26.640
  • THAT I CAN HEAR WHAT HE'SSAYING AND DO WHAT
  • 00:51:26.740 --> 00:51:30.177
  • HE WANTS ME TO DO.
  • 00:51:30.277 --> 00:51:32.612
  • AND THAT CAN ONLYHAPPEN IF I LOOK UP.
  • 00:51:32.712 --> 00:51:36.016
  • IF I LOOK STRAIGHTAHEAD, NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
  • 00:51:36.116 --> 00:51:38.418
  • I'LL HEAR EVERYTHING THATI DON'T NEED TO HEAR.
  • 00:51:38.518 --> 00:51:40.921
  • MY FATHER GAVE ME SOMEGREAT MARITAL ADVICE ONCE.
  • 00:51:41.021 --> 00:51:44.024
  • MY MOTHER, I GET MYTALKING FROM MY MOTHER
  • 00:51:44.124 --> 00:51:46.393
  • AND SHE COULD REALLY--
  • 00:51:46.493 --> 00:51:49.362
  • AND I SAID DADDY, HOWDO YOU DEAL WITH HER?
  • 00:51:49.462 --> 00:51:51.998
  • I WAS PROBABLYIN MY EARLY 40S.
  • 00:51:52.098 --> 00:51:54.401
  • I SAID DADDY, TALK TO MEDADDY, PLEASE BABY TALK TO ME.
  • 00:51:54.501 --> 00:51:58.438
  • AND HE SAID SON, I HAVELEARNED TO BE A LITTLE
  • 00:51:58.538 --> 00:52:01.007
  • BIT DEAF AND ALITTLE BIT BLIND.
  • 00:52:01.107 --> 00:52:03.577
  • THAT HAS HELPED ME ALOT IN MY MARRIAGE.
  • 00:52:03.677 --> 00:52:06.079
  • BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.THE POINT IS THIS.
  • 00:52:06.179 --> 00:52:11.017
  • I AM NOT DEAF TO WHATI HEAR OUT THERE.
  • 00:52:11.117 --> 00:52:14.054
  • I AM NOT BLIND TOWHAT I SEE OUT THERE.
  • 00:52:14.154 --> 00:52:16.456
  • WE'RE IN A TUMULTUOUSSITUATION THAT'S PLACING
  • 00:52:16.556 --> 00:52:19.559
  • A DEMAND UPON US FROMALMIGHTY GOD TO REPENT
  • 00:52:19.659 --> 00:52:22.329
  • AND HUMBLE OURSELVES ANDPRAY AND SEEK HIS FACE.
  • 00:52:22.429 --> 00:52:25.031
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I CHOOSETO BE DEAF AND BLIND TO?
  • 00:52:25.131 --> 00:52:28.301
  • ALL THE THINGS THATPEOPLE SAY AND ALL THE
  • 00:52:28.401 --> 00:52:31.338
  • THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO INTHE NAME OF JESUS THAT
  • 00:52:31.438 --> 00:52:35.575
  • LOOK AND SOUND NOTHINGLIKE JESUS BECAUSE IF YOU
  • 00:52:35.675 --> 00:52:40.580
  • START FOCUSING ON THAT, IWOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PREACH.
  • 00:52:40.680 --> 00:52:44.517
  • I WOULDN'T BE ABLETO SEEK THE LORD.
  • 00:52:44.618 --> 00:52:47.153
  • I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TOHELP MY FOUR BOYS
  • 00:52:47.254 --> 00:52:49.990
  • AND MY GRANDCHILDRENWHO ARE PRODUCTS OF
  • 00:52:50.090 --> 00:52:52.392
  • MULTI-ETHNIC RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:52:52.492 --> 00:52:55.428
  • BOTH MY SONS AREMARRIED TO WHITE GIRLS.
  • 00:52:55.528 --> 00:52:57.998
  • I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TOPOINT TO JESUS IF IT WAS
  • 00:52:58.098 --> 00:53:02.569
  • ALL ABOUT WHAT I SAW ANDALL ABOUT WHAT I HEARD
  • 00:53:02.669 --> 00:53:06.539
  • THAT WOULD OVERWHELM MYSENSE OF CHRIST JUST LIKE
  • 00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:12.612
  • THE CONDITIONS OF THISWORLD HAVE OVERWHELMED
  • 00:53:12.712 --> 00:53:16.149
  • THE THEOLOGY OFCHRIST IN OUR SOCIETY.
  • 00:53:16.249 --> 00:53:18.818
  • MAY THAT NEVERBE SAID ABOUT US.
  • 00:53:18.918 --> 00:53:21.454
  • MAY IT NEVER BESAID ABOUT US.
  • 00:53:21.554 --> 00:53:23.790
  • - RICK, IT'S UM,IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:53:23.890 --> 00:53:33.333
  • EXPERIENCE TO SIT HERE.IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:33.433 --> 00:53:36.469
  • IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, YOUKNOW, WE'VE GOT IN THE
  • 00:53:36.569 --> 00:53:43.777
  • LAST 90 SECONDS HERE, IJUST KIND OF WANT TO GIVE
  • 00:53:43.877 --> 00:53:48.515
  • YOU THE FINAL WORD.
  • 00:53:48.615 --> 00:53:50.383
  • JUST KIND OF TAKE USOUT AND I WANT THE LAST
  • 00:53:50.483 --> 00:53:56.122
  • LITTLE BIT TOCOME FROM YOU.
  • 00:53:56.222 --> 00:53:59.225
  • - I COULD COME HERE WITHFACTS, I COULD COME HERE
  • 00:53:59.326 --> 00:54:01.261
  • WITH FIGURES, I COULDCOME HERE WITH DEFENSES,
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  • I HAVE SO MANY PEOPLESAY WELL THERE'S NO SUCH
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  • THING AS SYSTEMIC RACISM.
  • 00:54:07.167 --> 00:54:09.269
  • I COULD COME HERE ANDTALK TO YOU ABOUT PLESSY
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  • VERSUS FERGUSON IN 1896WHERE THE SUPREME COURT
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  • MADE IT LEGAL FOR SEPARATEAND EQUAL FACILITIES.
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  • DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
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  • ACCORDING TO PETER, MYDEFENSE IS THE GOSPEL OF
  • 00:54:22.115 --> 00:54:25.418
  • JESUS, THE LIVING CHRIST.
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  • IF THERE IS ANYTHING THATI WANT TO LEAVE HERE WITH
  • 00:54:29.789 --> 00:54:34.194
  • IS THAT MATT AND LAURIE,WHEN I SEE YOU,
  • 00:54:34.294 --> 00:54:37.397
  • I SEE JESUS.
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  • I PRAY WHEN YOU SEE METHAT YOU WOULD SEE JESUS.
  • 00:54:41.234 --> 00:54:45.538
  • MY PRAYER IS THATPREACHERS WOULD START
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  • PROCLAIMING THETRUTH OF GOD'S WORD.
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  • MY PRAYER IS THAT THOSEIN THE PEWS WOULD START
  • 00:54:51.077 --> 00:54:54.247
  • RECEIVING THE TRUTH OFGOD'S WORD TO THE POINT
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  • THAT WE REALIZE THATWE'RE ALL PART OF
  • 00:54:57.951 --> 00:54:59.786
  • THE SAME RACE.
  • 00:54:59.886 --> 00:55:02.422
  • - OUR TIME WITHRICK RIGSBY.
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  • RICK, I LOVE YOU MY FRIEND.
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  • - WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:55:09.095 --> 00:55:10.497
  • - WE PRAY THAT OURAUDIENCE RECEIVES THE
  • 00:55:10.597 --> 00:55:12.999
  • WORDS THAT WE'VE HEARD, THEWISDOM AND GOODNESS FROM YOU.
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  • WE LOVE YOU FRIEND.
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  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
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  • BYE-BYE.
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  • ♪♪♪
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