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Praise | February 17, 2017

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February 17, 2017
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T. D. & Serita Jakes host Dr. Caroline Leaf, John Gray and music by Grace.

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Praise | February 17, 2017

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  • - female announcer: Tonight,
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  • from Dallas, Texas, associate
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  • pastor at Lakewood Church
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  • in Houston, Texas, John Gray.
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  • Renowned cognitive
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  • neuroscientist,
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  • Dr. Caroline Leaf,
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  • and senior pastor of
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  • The Potter's House,
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  • Bishop T.D. Jakes
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  • with his wife, Serita.
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • - Bishop T.D. Jakes: Welcome,
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  • welcome, welcome,
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  • welcome, everybody.
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  • We're excited.
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  • We are excited and delighted.
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  • I wanna welcome you into
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  • the presence of the Lord.
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  • My wife and I greet you
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  • with Jesus' joy.
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  • We have got a great guest.
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  • We've got great guests
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  • lined up for you tonight.
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  • You're really gonna be blessed.
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  • Dr. Caroline is here,
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  • and she's gonna bless us.
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  • Give a big round of applause
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  • for her.
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  • We're gonna talk a little
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  • more about her.
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  • The incomparable
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  • John Gray's in the house.
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  • We're gonna be blessed.
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  • We're gonna rock the house
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  • for Jesus Christ.
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  • It's going to be awesome.
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  • whatever you may be going
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  • through right now, whatever you
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  • may be dealing with, understand
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  • that greater is he that's in you
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  • than he that's after you, amen?
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  • And we're believing God for
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  • a blessing for you tonight.
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  • So I want you to just
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  • still everything around
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  • the house and get ready.
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  • You may learn something.
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  • You may pick up something.
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  • You may receive something that
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  • could absolutely change your
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  • life, start you back over again.
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  • But we don't wanna start
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  • on our own.
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  • Because if we start on our own,
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  • we won't do well.
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  • Honey, would you pray with us
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  • and pray for those persons out
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  • there who might desperately need
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  • a touch from the Lord right now?
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  • Let's just come into agreement.
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  • - Serita Jakes: God, we're so
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  • grateful for this opportunity
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  • to enter into your gates
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  • with Thanksgiving and into
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  • your courts with praise.
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  • We're thankful
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  • and we bless your name.
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  • For tonight, God, we ask that
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  • you would remove every barrier,
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  • every obstacle, that would
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  • hinder the Word of God
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  • from going forth.
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  • We pray, O God, that the Word
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  • will not return unto you void,
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  • but it will accomplish all that
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  • you sent it out to do,
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  • in Jesus' name, amen.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Amen, amen,
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  • amen, amen, amen.
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  • Get out of here, devil.
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  • We're takin' over in the name of
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  • the Lord because the Lord is in
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  • the house.
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  • And not only is he in the house,
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  • he controls the house.
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  • And the Bible said, "Where
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  • the Spirit of the Lord is
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  • there is absolute liberty."
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  • So you don't have to be bound.
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  • You don't have to be guilty.
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  • You don't have to be upset.
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  • The very best is about to break
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  • forth in your life.
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  • Every chain broken, in Jesus'
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  • name, because Jesus is in the
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  • house and Grace is in the house,
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  • a group that I founded and
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  • started because these ladies are
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  • very, very special ladies.
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  • They're from our church.
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  • They're gonna sing.
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  • They're gonna minister to you.
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  • And they're gonna confirm
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  • the word today that Jesus is in
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  • the house.
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  • Grace, bless us.
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  • - Serita: Amen.
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  • - female: I don't know what you
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  • came lookin' for, but I want you
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  • it's right here in the house.
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  • C'mon and put those hands
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  • together if you believe it.
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  • I know you're searchin'
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  • And if you just, just listen to
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  • the words of this song, you will
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  • find that whatever you need
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  • is right here in the house.
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  • Say it, Cammie.
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  • Let me tell ya about a man.
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  • He's my heavenly Father,
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  • but you can call him Jesus.
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  • There's no doubt about it
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  • he's an awesome wonder.
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  • And he's healin'
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  • all over the land.
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  • So if you're lookin'
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  • for a miracle,
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  • I know of a place where
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  • you can go, a place where
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  • you can come as you are
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  • and he will meet you there.
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  • Oh, whatever you need,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • it's in the house,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • Whatever you want,
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  • whatever you want,
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  • you can have it.
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  • Whatever you need,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • come expecting
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  • Whatever you want,
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  • whatever you want,
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  • whatever you want, ooh,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • It may be love.
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  • It may be joy.
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  • It may be peace.
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  • It may just be that
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  • you need happiness
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  • Whatever it is,
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  • it's in the air.
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  • Just reach up and grab it.
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  • It's hangin' there.
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  • I'm tellin' you,
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  • if you need a miracle,
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  • I know of a place
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  • where you can go.
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  • But if you really,
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  • really in a hurry,
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  • my God will meet you
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  • right where you are.
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  • Hey, I want you to know
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  • that whatever you believin'
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  • him for, whatever
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  • you expectin' from God,
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  • it's right here in the house
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  • I want you to hold on.
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  • I want you to come on.
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  • Oh, it's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Whatever you need,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • you can have it,
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  • you can have it.
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  • Whatever you want,
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  • whatever you want,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • in this healing,
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  • whatever you want,
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  • Deliverer,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • a little more faith,
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  • whatever you want,
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  • whatever, whatever
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  • whatever you need,
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  • you can have it,
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  • you can have it.
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  • You can have it.
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  • You can have it.
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  • Just believe it.
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  • Just believe it.
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  • Gotta receive it.
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  • And receive it.
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  • Come expectin',
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  • come expectin',
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  • you will get it,
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  • you will get it.
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  • My God will do
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  • exceedingly abundantly
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  • above all you ever asked.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Yes, it is.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Right here.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Right now.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Your blessing,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • Your breakthrough,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • Your miracle,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • You've been waitin'
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  • a long time.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • You've been prayin'
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  • a long time.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • For your deliverance,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • Your blessing,
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  • it's in the house,
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  • is right here.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • You gotta receive it.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Oh, whatever you need,
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  • need, need, need,
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  • you can have it.
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  • You can have it.
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  • Whoa, it's in the house.
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  • Jesus is waiting,
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  • it's in the house,
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  • for you to get there.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • Whatever you need,
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  • it's in the house.
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  • C'mon, it's in the house.
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  • C'mon, it's in the house.
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  • C'mon, whatever you need.
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  • Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  • you can have it.
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  • You can have love.
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  • Whatever you want.
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  • You can have joy.
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  • Whatever you need.
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  • Peace.
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  • Whatever you ask him.
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  • Salvation.
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  • Whatever you need.
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  • Restoration.
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  • Whatever you ask him.
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  • Rejuvenation.
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  • Whatever you need.
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  • Whatever, whatever.
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  • Whatever you ask him.
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  • Whatever, whatever.
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  • Whatever you need.
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  • What, what, what, what.
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  • You can have it.
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  • What, what, what, what.
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  • You can have it.
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  • What, what, what,
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  • what, what, what.
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  • Just believe it.
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  • What, what, what, what.
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  • And receive it.
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  • Whatever, whatever, whatever
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  • Whatever, whatever, what.
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  • Whatever, whatever,
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  • whatever you need,
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  • hey, yeah.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • [applauding]
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Whoo!
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  • - female: Yes, it is.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Lord,
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  • have mercy, it's in the house.
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  • Grace, give it up for Grace.
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  • Amazing, amazing, amazing.
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  • It's in the house.
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  • We can feel the glory of the
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  • Lord right here in this house
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  • right now.
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  • Whatever you want, whatever you
  • 00:07:44.290 --> 00:07:46.130
  • need, it's in the house.
  • 00:07:46.130 --> 00:07:48.070
  • And if it's here--the wonderful
  • 00:07:48.070 --> 00:07:49.220
  • thing about God, see, if
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  • I'm here, I can't be there.
  • 00:07:50.230 --> 00:07:52.090
  • If I'm there, I can't be here.
  • 00:07:52.090 --> 00:07:53.210
  • But God can be everywhere
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  • at the same time.
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  • He's in your house too.
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  • Give God a praise, the
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  • omnipotent, omnipresent,
  • 00:07:58.190 --> 00:08:00.140
  • all times.
  • 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:04.070
  • I wanna get down in this
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  • conversation.
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  • We got some great gifts here,
  • 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:07.140
  • beautiful people that are gonna
  • 00:08:07.140 --> 00:08:08.290
  • bless our hearts today.
  • 00:08:08.290 --> 00:08:10.040
  • I want you to take a look and
  • 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.110
  • understand who's gonna be
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  • talkin' to you today.
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  • Take a look.
  • 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:14.030
  • - announcer: From
  • 00:08:14.030 --> 00:08:14.200
  • Lakewood Church, comedian,
  • 00:08:14.200 --> 00:08:15.150
  • author, singer, and preacher,
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  • John Gray.
  • 00:08:16.230 --> 00:08:18.070
  • He's 1/3 comedian.
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  • - John Gray: C'mon, can I get
  • 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:20.240
  • and a soda?
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  • Whoo!
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  • Could you add some chicken
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  • nuggets, sweet and sour, don't
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  • you heard me?
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  • Chicken nuggets, are you okay?
  • 00:08:27.230 --> 00:08:29.000
  • - announcer: He's 1/3 musician.
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  • The angels roar
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  • - announcer: But he's mostly
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  • full of God's Word.
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  • - John: But it's that middle
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  • praise that puts hell on
  • 00:08:47.230 --> 00:08:49.000
  • the run, when you can get up
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  • and nothing has changed,
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  • "God, I love you.
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  • I just bless you.
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  • Nothin' makes sense,
  • 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.030
  • but I just wanna thank ya,
  • 00:08:56.030 --> 00:08:56.290
  • and I'll see ya tomorrow."
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  • ground-breaking neuroscientist
  • 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.010
  • Dr. Caroline Leaf.
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  • - Dr. Caroline Leaf: The
  • 00:09:02.090 --> 00:09:02.280
  • greatest thing we can do in
  • 00:09:02.280 --> 00:09:03.240
  • our life is to set up a constant
  • 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.130
  • Because if we are in a constant
  • 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:08.290
  • internal dialogue with God, we
  • 00:09:08.290 --> 00:09:10.170
  • will not be doing what we want
  • 00:09:10.170 --> 00:09:11.200
  • to do, we will be doing what he
  • 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.050
  • wants us to do.
  • 00:09:13.050 --> 00:09:14.270
  • - announcer: She's a dynamic
  • 00:09:14.270 --> 00:09:15.250
  • speaker and author of
  • 00:09:15.250 --> 00:09:16.240
  • numerous acclaimed books,
  • 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.130
  • reaching into the hearts and
  • 00:09:18.130 --> 00:09:19.270
  • minds of thousands across the
  • 00:09:19.270 --> 00:09:21.090
  • globe, linking the scientific
  • 00:09:21.090 --> 00:09:23.150
  • to the spiritual, helping us
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  • understand how the mind can
  • 00:09:25.010 --> 00:09:26.160
  • change the brain.
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  • - Caroline: And as you do that,
  • 00:09:28.010 --> 00:09:29.040
  • the power of God, "Perfect love
  • 00:09:29.040 --> 00:09:30.130
  • casts out fear."
  • 00:09:30.130 --> 00:09:31.120
  • And over a period of time,
  • 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:32.160
  • it takes about 21 days,
  • 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:34.000
  • those toxic issues
  • 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:35.090
  • literally pop off.
  • 00:09:35.090 --> 00:09:37.070
  • They go away.
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  • You're working with
  • 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:38.240
  • the Holy Spirit.
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  • - announcer: Right now
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  • on "Praise."
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  • [applauding]
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Listen,
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  • everybody, everybody, everybody,
  • 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:48.270
  • you need to get on the phone.
  • 00:09:48.270 --> 00:09:50.060
  • You need to text.
  • 00:09:50.060 --> 00:09:50.280
  • You need to tweet.
  • 00:09:50.280 --> 00:09:51.190
  • You need to get on Facebook.
  • 00:09:51.190 --> 00:09:52.210
  • Tell all your friends
  • 00:09:52.210 --> 00:09:53.210
  • and even your enemies
  • 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:54.290
  • and your haters too.
  • 00:09:54.290 --> 00:09:56.010
  • They don't wanna miss this.
  • 00:09:56.010 --> 00:09:57.140
  • It's gonna be good.
  • 00:09:57.140 --> 00:09:58.050
  • You wanna get rid of them
  • 00:09:58.050 --> 00:09:58.280
  • haters.
  • 00:09:58.280 --> 00:09:59.130
  • They might get saved tonight.
  • 00:09:59.130 --> 00:10:00.180
  • We never know what God
  • 00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:01.170
  • is gonna do, amen?
  • 00:10:01.170 --> 00:10:02.280
  • Amen.
  • 00:10:02.280 --> 00:10:03.240
  • There's power in the name of
  • 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.100
  • the Lord.
  • 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:06.060
  • I am so excited to have an
  • 00:10:06.060 --> 00:10:07.190
  • opportunity to talk to both of
  • 00:10:07.190 --> 00:10:09.000
  • you, and to just talk about
  • 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.170
  • where we see God working.
  • 00:10:10.170 --> 00:10:12.180
  • I first heard you when I was
  • 00:10:12.180 --> 00:10:14.090
  • at Bill Winston's,
  • 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:15.160
  • at Dr. Bill Winston's.
  • 00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:17.110
  • And I was back in the back and I
  • 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:19.190
  • was watchin' on the screen.
  • 00:10:19.190 --> 00:10:21.020
  • And you were ministering in a
  • 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:22.200
  • vein that I hardly ever see
  • 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.150
  • anybody minister about because
  • 00:10:24.150 --> 00:10:26.140
  • most--I came up in church almost
  • 00:10:26.140 --> 00:10:28.220
  • all of my life.
  • 00:10:28.220 --> 00:10:30.000
  • And for everything, no matter
  • 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.250
  • what was wrong with you, if you
  • 00:10:31.250 --> 00:10:33.130
  • had the measles, if you had the
  • 00:10:33.130 --> 00:10:34.190
  • flu, they'd tell you to just go
  • 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:35.160
  • tarry around the altar and pray
  • 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:37.030
  • about it.
  • 00:10:37.030 --> 00:10:38.050
  • You know, "Just pray about it.
  • 00:10:38.050 --> 00:10:39.040
  • If you pray enough, everything's
  • 00:10:39.040 --> 00:10:40.130
  • gonna be all right."
  • 00:10:40.130 --> 00:10:41.060
  • Never realizing that getting
  • 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:44.160
  • spiritually richer doesn't
  • 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:46.030
  • necessarily set you mentally
  • 00:10:46.030 --> 00:10:47.260
  • free, that, you know?
  • 00:10:47.260 --> 00:10:49.290
  • Because there can be, your
  • 00:10:49.290 --> 00:10:51.240
  • spirit can be whole, but you can
  • 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.030
  • have issues in your mind and
  • 00:10:53.030 --> 00:10:54.120
  • emotions.
  • 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.110
  • Let's talk a little bit about
  • 00:10:55.110 --> 00:10:57.110
  • how you ended up going into that
  • 00:10:57.110 --> 00:10:59.060
  • vein of emotional and mental
  • 00:10:59.060 --> 00:11:01.150
  • well-being.
  • 00:11:01.150 --> 00:11:02.150
  • - Caroline: Well, Bishop, it
  • 00:11:02.150 --> 00:11:03.170
  • started back in, right in the
  • 00:11:05.190 --> 00:11:07.020
  • beginning when I was very young,
  • 00:11:07.020 --> 00:11:08.120
  • when I recognized that there's
  • 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.030
  • so much power in our mind.
  • 00:11:10.030 --> 00:11:11.000
  • And then as I grew up, I was
  • 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.010
  • very challenged in my first
  • 00:11:12.010 --> 00:11:13.090
  • years of story, where they told
  • 00:11:13.090 --> 00:11:14.160
  • us the brain can't change.
  • 00:11:14.160 --> 00:11:15.230
  • But I've been a Christian my
  • 00:11:15.230 --> 00:11:16.250
  • whole life, and you know,
  • 00:11:16.250 --> 00:11:17.220
  • science is God's stuff.
  • 00:11:17.220 --> 00:11:18.160
  • God--God uses science to show
  • 00:11:21.070 --> 00:11:22.240
  • his magnificence.
  • 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.000
  • So if you talk about science and
  • 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.120
  • neuroscience and brain, one of
  • 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:26.230
  • the things that was really
  • 00:11:26.230 --> 00:11:28.040
  • interesting is I was very
  • 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:29.040
  • challenged by the fact that they
  • 00:11:29.040 --> 00:11:30.150
  • told us our brain couldn't
  • 00:11:30.150 --> 00:11:31.110
  • change.
  • 00:11:31.110 --> 00:11:32.030
  • But the Word of God says that we
  • 00:11:32.030 --> 00:11:33.060
  • have a love, power, and a sound
  • 00:11:33.060 --> 00:11:34.070
  • mind, and you can choose, and
  • 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:35.100
  • you have free will.
  • 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:36.020
  • And all the profound truths of
  • 00:11:36.020 --> 00:11:37.180
  • the Word show that well, if our
  • 00:11:37.180 --> 00:11:39.150
  • mind is so powerful, that means
  • 00:11:39.150 --> 00:11:41.080
  • the physical part of us can, is
  • 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.000
  • actually has to be subservient
  • 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:44.150
  • to the mind.
  • 00:11:44.150 --> 00:11:45.130
  • So it was very interesting for
  • 00:11:45.130 --> 00:11:46.160
  • me that understanding that as
  • 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:48.000
  • triune beings, spirit, soul,
  • 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:49.230
  • body, that our mind is actually
  • 00:11:49.230 --> 00:11:51.280
  • separate from our brain.
  • 00:11:51.280 --> 00:11:53.000
  • And this is something that's new
  • 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:53.240
  • for most people.
  • 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:54.190
  • They don't recognize that your
  • 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:55.190
  • mind is not the brain.
  • 00:11:55.190 --> 00:11:57.160
  • The brain is the physical
  • 00:11:57.160 --> 00:11:58.240
  • substrate.
  • 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.160
  • When you die, your brain goes.
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:00.240
  • But your, the mind has eternal
  • 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.150
  • value, and that's your ability
  • 00:12:02.150 --> 00:12:04.080
  • to think and to feel and to
  • 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:05.200
  • choose.
  • 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:06.190
  • So your thinking, feeling, and
  • 00:12:06.190 --> 00:12:08.020
  • choosing is actually creating a
  • 00:12:08.020 --> 00:12:09.140
  • physical change in your brain.
  • 00:12:09.140 --> 00:12:11.130
  • So you have causal effect.
  • 00:12:11.130 --> 00:12:12.290
  • Your mind is causing structural
  • 00:12:12.290 --> 00:12:14.220
  • change.
  • 00:12:14.220 --> 00:12:15.150
  • So right now our brain is
  • 00:12:15.150 --> 00:12:16.140
  • changing because of the way
  • 00:12:16.140 --> 00:12:17.130
  • we're thinking.
  • 00:12:17.130 --> 00:12:18.180
  • - Bishop Jakes: When you start
  • 00:12:18.180 --> 00:12:19.140
  • talking about thinking, feeling,
  • 00:12:19.140 --> 00:12:20.280
  • and choosing, when you think
  • 00:12:20.280 --> 00:12:23.040
  • about it, almost every problem
  • 00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:25.170
  • that ever happened in your life
  • 00:12:25.170 --> 00:12:27.030
  • was a result of how you thought,
  • 00:12:27.030 --> 00:12:28.220
  • how you felt, or how you chose.
  • 00:12:28.220 --> 00:12:30.240
  • - Caroline: Exactly.
  • 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:31.110
  • - John: Wow.
  • 00:12:31.110 --> 00:12:32.050
  • - Christine: Exactly, that's
  • 00:12:32.050 --> 00:12:32.260
  • exactly the thing.
  • 00:12:32.260 --> 00:12:33.160
  • So your thinking is actually
  • 00:12:33.160 --> 00:12:34.090
  • generating quantum energy
  • 00:12:34.090 --> 00:12:35.270
  • through your brain because mind
  • 00:12:35.270 --> 00:12:37.070
  • changes the brain.
  • 00:12:37.070 --> 00:12:38.120
  • So then as you think, you
  • 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:39.200
  • experience emotion, which then
  • 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:40.280
  • adds, you're always whatever,
  • 00:12:40.280 --> 00:12:42.290
  • when you're thinking and
  • 00:12:42.290 --> 00:12:43.240
  • feeling, you have a, your brain
  • 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.090
  • is the substrate through which
  • 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:46.090
  • it moves.
  • 00:12:46.090 --> 00:12:47.020
  • And as you choose, you actually
  • 00:12:47.020 --> 00:12:48.150
  • cause genes to express.
  • 00:12:48.150 --> 00:12:50.060
  • So there's a creative power in
  • 00:12:50.060 --> 00:12:51.170
  • our choices.
  • 00:12:51.170 --> 00:12:53.000
  • So we are always in a genesis
  • 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:54.050
  • moment.
  • 00:12:54.050 --> 00:12:55.000
  • We are always creating.
  • 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:56.010
  • - Serita: Always in a genesis--
  • 00:12:56.010 --> 00:12:57.010
  • - Christine: So we're either
  • 00:12:57.010 --> 00:12:57.290
  • creating life or death.
  • 00:12:57.290 --> 00:12:58.200
  • That's how God sees it.
  • 00:12:58.200 --> 00:12:59.090
  • "Choose life or death."
  • 00:12:59.090 --> 00:13:00.130
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yeah, yeah,
  • 00:13:00.130 --> 00:13:01.030
  • always in a genesis moment,
  • 00:13:01.030 --> 00:13:02.010
  • creating good or bad.
  • 00:13:02.010 --> 00:13:04.170
  • We are always creating
  • 00:13:04.170 --> 00:13:05.120
  • something.
  • 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:06.040
  • - Christine: Always creating
  • 00:13:06.040 --> 00:13:07.040
  • something.
  • 00:13:07.040 --> 00:13:07.190
  • - Bishop Jakes: So, are you
  • 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:08.090
  • saying that many times we create
  • 00:13:08.090 --> 00:13:09.120
  • our own chaos in the way that we
  • 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.000
  • think?
  • 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:11.210
  • - Christine: We totally do
  • 00:13:11.210 --> 00:13:12.220
  • because we actually, 75 to 98%
  • 00:13:12.220 --> 00:13:14.220
  • or illnesses come from our
  • 00:13:14.220 --> 00:13:17.030
  • thought life.
  • 00:13:17.030 --> 00:13:17.260
  • Now, God is good, you know?
  • 00:13:17.260 --> 00:13:19.040
  • He created good stuff.
  • 00:13:19.040 --> 00:13:19.270
  • He didn't create disease.
  • 00:13:19.270 --> 00:13:20.250
  • And if you look at the research,
  • 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:21.260
  • right back to the time when Adam
  • 00:13:21.260 --> 00:13:23.160
  • and Eve began in the garden,
  • 00:13:23.160 --> 00:13:25.250
  • they made an incorrect choice.
  • 00:13:25.250 --> 00:13:27.100
  • That changed their genetic
  • 00:13:27.100 --> 00:13:28.110
  • structure that's passed through
  • 00:13:28.110 --> 00:13:29.110
  • the generations.
  • 00:13:29.110 --> 00:13:30.090
  • So disease is not something that
  • 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:32.010
  • God gave us to teach us stuff,
  • 00:13:32.010 --> 00:13:33.140
  • which is, you know,
  • 00:13:33.140 --> 00:13:34.210
  • crazy thinking.
  • 00:13:34.210 --> 00:13:35.170
  • Disease is something that man
  • 00:13:35.170 --> 00:13:37.050
  • has, where man has abused the
  • 00:13:37.050 --> 00:13:39.010
  • creative power that he's given
  • 00:13:39.010 --> 00:13:40.270
  • us with the love, power, and
  • 00:13:40.270 --> 00:13:42.050
  • sound mind, which has mutated
  • 00:13:42.050 --> 00:13:43.100
  • genes, which passes through the
  • 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:44.220
  • generations and manifests as
  • 00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:45.270
  • disease.
  • 00:13:45.270 --> 00:13:46.250
  • So, you know, we've got this.
  • 00:13:46.250 --> 00:13:48.020
  • We do.
  • 00:13:48.020 --> 00:13:48.220
  • We our mind changes our brain.
  • 00:13:48.220 --> 00:13:50.050
  • Our mind changes the way we
  • 00:13:50.050 --> 00:13:51.210
  • function.
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  • So that means that every toxic
  • 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:54.000
  • thought, we're not wired for
  • 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:55.210
  • that.
  • 00:13:55.210 --> 00:13:56.070
  • Research shows that our brain
  • 00:13:56.070 --> 00:13:57.130
  • and our body is only wired for
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  • love.
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  • That's what the scientists say.
  • 00:14:00.050 --> 00:14:01.180
  • We've got nothing in us for
  • 00:14:01.180 --> 00:14:02.100
  • fear.
  • 00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:03.070
  • So you're either in love or
  • 00:14:03.070 --> 00:14:04.050
  • fear.
  • 00:14:04.050 --> 00:14:04.240
  • So we choose.
  • 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:05.220
  • God is not going to bring a,
  • 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:06.220
  • stand in our zone.
  • 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:08.020
  • We have to choose to stand in
  • 00:14:08.020 --> 00:14:09.030
  • God's love zone.
  • 00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:10.070
  • So when we're choosing,
  • 00:14:10.070 --> 00:14:11.190
  • thinking, feeling, and choosing,
  • 00:14:11.190 --> 00:14:13.060
  • we're either thinking, feeling,
  • 00:14:13.060 --> 00:14:14.060
  • and choosing led by the Spirit
  • 00:14:14.060 --> 00:14:15.150
  • of God in the love zone, and
  • 00:14:15.150 --> 00:14:17.020
  • therefore making good choices,
  • 00:14:17.020 --> 00:14:18.110
  • and therefore building health
  • 00:14:18.110 --> 00:14:19.130
  • into our brain and our body.
  • 00:14:19.130 --> 00:14:21.010
  • Or we're not.
  • 00:14:21.010 --> 00:14:22.020
  • We're doing it on our own and
  • 00:14:22.020 --> 00:14:23.040
  • we're building death into our
  • 00:14:23.040 --> 00:14:24.170
  • brain and our body.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Well, you know,
  • 00:14:25.190 --> 00:14:26.240
  • I've thought to myself when
  • 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.050
  • I--when, there's a phrase.
  • 00:14:28.050 --> 00:14:30.180
  • When the Bible talks about
  • 00:14:30.180 --> 00:14:31.190
  • Samson and Delilah, it says
  • 00:14:31.190 --> 00:14:33.070
  • that, "She tied him up to
  • 00:14:33.070 --> 00:14:34.080
  • afflict him."
  • 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:35.270
  • And that word "afflict" is
  • 00:14:35.270 --> 00:14:37.280
  • very, very interesting.
  • 00:14:37.280 --> 00:14:39.000
  • Not only is it true with Samson
  • 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:40.200
  • and Delilah, the enemy wants to
  • 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.120
  • afflict us as well.
  • 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:44.020
  • - Christine: Exactly.
  • 00:14:44.020 --> 00:14:44.260
  • - Bishop Jakes: But if I hear
  • 00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:45.190
  • you right, I think what you're
  • 00:14:45.190 --> 00:14:46.180
  • saying is a lot of times we
  • 00:14:46.180 --> 00:14:47.250
  • bring the affliction on
  • 00:14:47.250 --> 00:14:49.130
  • ourselves in the way that we
  • 00:14:49.130 --> 00:14:51.190
  • process and handle things.
  • 00:14:51.190 --> 00:14:53.040
  • So when we start talkin' about
  • 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:54.180
  • that, and we are creative
  • 00:14:54.180 --> 00:14:56.050
  • beings.
  • 00:14:56.050 --> 00:14:56.260
  • We are imaginative and
  • 00:14:56.260 --> 00:14:59.090
  • resourceful, and it's--
  • 00:14:59.090 --> 00:15:01.010
  • the amazing thing that I have
  • 00:15:01.010 --> 00:15:03.040
  • learned about people is that
  • 00:15:03.040 --> 00:15:04.170
  • some of the most creative people
  • 00:15:04.170 --> 00:15:06.030
  • in the positive struggle equally
  • 00:15:06.030 --> 00:15:08.200
  • as much in the negative because
  • 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.120
  • you have a good strong brain to
  • 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.150
  • imagine, to create, to do great
  • 00:15:12.150 --> 00:15:14.180
  • things for other people.
  • 00:15:14.180 --> 00:15:16.040
  • But sometimes, isn't it true
  • 00:15:16.040 --> 00:15:17.270
  • that you can do more for other
  • 00:15:17.270 --> 00:15:18.260
  • people than you can do for
  • 00:15:18.260 --> 00:15:19.240
  • yourself?
  • 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:20.180
  • - Christine: That's very good.
  • 00:15:20.180 --> 00:15:21.160
  • - Bishop Jakes: You know?
  • 00:15:21.160 --> 00:15:22.110
  • How do we begin to break the
  • 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:23.240
  • patterns, the negative patterns
  • 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.290
  • and tendencies that we have
  • 00:15:25.290 --> 00:15:27.030
  • created that have maybe been
  • 00:15:27.030 --> 00:15:28.150
  • taught to us and have been
  • 00:15:28.150 --> 00:15:30.030
  • begin to clean up those issues
  • 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:33.230
  • and areas in our mind?
  • 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:35.130
  • - Christine: Okay, well, this
  • 00:15:35.130 --> 00:15:36.040
  • is, that's a brilliant question.
  • 00:15:36.040 --> 00:15:37.070
  • And it's something that we all,
  • 00:15:37.070 --> 00:15:38.220
  • every single human, is going to
  • 00:15:38.220 --> 00:15:40.060
  • be dealing with.
  • 00:15:40.060 --> 00:15:40.270
  • 'Cause moment by moment of every
  • 00:15:40.270 --> 00:15:42.000
  • day, you're in the events
  • 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:43.060
  • and circumstances of life.
  • 00:15:43.060 --> 00:15:44.140
  • So you have to react to those.
  • 00:15:44.140 --> 00:15:46.110
  • And you, whether you like it or
  • 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:47.230
  • not, you think, feel, choose,
  • 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:48.250
  • and then you're building
  • 00:15:48.250 --> 00:15:49.200
  • thoughts.
  • 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.080
  • So this is a process that's
  • 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:50.290
  • ongoing.
  • 00:15:50.290 --> 00:15:51.250
  • So we have to, first of all,
  • 00:15:51.250 --> 00:15:53.060
  • align ourselves with the Holy
  • 00:15:53.060 --> 00:15:54.080
  • Spirit.
  • 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:55.190
  • We have to train ourselves to
  • 00:15:55.190 --> 00:15:56.280
  • constantly bring those thoughts
  • 00:15:56.280 --> 00:15:58.080
  • into captivity.
  • 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:59.090
  • designed, 'cause our brain,
  • 00:16:01.130 --> 00:16:02.050
  • remember, is separate from our
  • 00:16:02.050 --> 00:16:03.040
  • mind.
  • 00:16:03.040 --> 00:16:03.260
  • It just does what our mind tells
  • 00:16:03.260 --> 00:16:05.020
  • it to do.
  • 00:16:05.020 --> 00:16:05.250
  • So you tell your brain what to
  • 00:16:05.250 --> 00:16:06.200
  • do.
  • 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:07.090
  • You change your brain.
  • 00:16:07.090 --> 00:16:08.140
  • So when we have, when we do
  • 00:16:08.140 --> 00:16:10.060
  • ignore the Holy Spirit and we
  • 00:16:10.060 --> 00:16:11.130
  • make the wrong choices, and we
  • 00:16:11.130 --> 00:16:12.210
  • voluntarily miss the mark, step
  • 00:16:12.210 --> 00:16:14.190
  • into sin, go into the wrong type
  • 00:16:14.190 --> 00:16:16.070
  • of thinking, that'll become a
  • 00:16:16.070 --> 00:16:17.200
  • physical reaction and a physical
  • 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.080
  • substrate in our brain because
  • 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:21.110
  • thoughts are real things.
  • 00:16:21.110 --> 00:16:22.220
  • So when you, whatever choice you
  • 00:16:22.220 --> 00:16:24.020
  • make, you build a representation
  • 00:16:24.020 --> 00:16:26.140
  • of that in your brain out of
  • 00:16:26.140 --> 00:16:27.170
  • proteins.
  • 00:16:27.170 --> 00:16:28.130
  • So good choices, healthy
  • 00:16:28.130 --> 00:16:29.200
  • proteins, healthy thoughts,
  • 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:31.010
  • lovely, green, healthy trees.
  • 00:16:31.010 --> 00:16:32.210
  • And then toxic thoughts, toxic
  • 00:16:32.210 --> 00:16:34.030
  • trees.
  • 00:16:34.030 --> 00:16:34.260
  • But then our brain is
  • 00:16:34.260 --> 00:16:36.060
  • neuroplastic so we can change
  • 00:16:36.060 --> 00:16:37.290
  • them.
  • 00:16:37.290 --> 00:16:38.270
  • So when, the first part of
  • 00:16:38.270 --> 00:16:40.020
  • change is the acknowledgement
  • 00:16:40.020 --> 00:16:41.220
  • that something is an issue.
  • 00:16:41.220 --> 00:16:43.110
  • - Bishop Jakes: Let's--the
  • 00:16:43.110 --> 00:16:44.240
  • first part of change is to
  • 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.130
  • acknowledge that something is an
  • 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:47.230
  • issue.
  • 00:16:47.230 --> 00:16:48.220
  • - Christine: Exactly.
  • 00:16:48.220 --> 00:16:49.120
  • - Bishop Jakes: And then you
  • 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.090
  • say we can change it.
  • 00:16:50.090 --> 00:16:51.100
  • There are so many people
  • 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.190
  • watching us right now who feel
  • 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:54.000
  • like they are trapped in their
  • 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.040
  • own life, in their own skin, in
  • 00:16:55.040 --> 00:16:56.200
  • their own circumstances, and
  • 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.270
  • they have given up on change.
  • 00:16:57.270 --> 00:17:00.050
  • They're waitin' on Jesus to come
  • 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:01.100
  • get 'em.
  • 00:17:01.100 --> 00:17:02.060
  • And they say, "When I get to
  • 00:17:02.060 --> 00:17:03.030
  • heaven, it's gonna be better,
  • 00:17:03.030 --> 00:17:04.110
  • but right now--" We shout about
  • 00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:06.000
  • a change that we don't really
  • 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.060
  • believe that we're really gonna
  • 00:17:07.060 --> 00:17:08.140
  • have in our life.
  • 00:17:08.140 --> 00:17:10.080
  • - Christine: Exactly.
  • 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:10.250
  • - Bishop Jakes: But I hear you
  • 00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:11.200
  • sayin' that we can take
  • 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:12.240
  • authority and change what is
  • 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:14.230
  • happening in our world, in our
  • 00:17:14.230 --> 00:17:16.070
  • body, in our minds, in our
  • 00:17:16.070 --> 00:17:17.270
  • - Christine: Every aspect
  • 00:17:19.290 --> 00:17:20.220
  • because just the fact of a
  • 00:17:20.220 --> 00:17:22.000
  • person saying, "I can't change,"
  • 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:23.160
  • they've already changed.
  • 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:24.130
  • They've wired in a toxic pattern
  • 00:17:24.130 --> 00:17:25.290
  • of "I can't change."
  • 00:17:25.290 --> 00:17:27.080
  • "I can't" is a decision.
  • 00:17:27.080 --> 00:17:28.160
  • "I can" or "I can't," they're
  • 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.180
  • decisions.
  • 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:30.080
  • So the negative is it's a
  • 00:17:30.080 --> 00:17:31.070
  • plastic paradox.
  • 00:17:31.070 --> 00:17:32.070
  • Whatever you choose, whether
  • 00:17:32.070 --> 00:17:33.110
  • it's the positive or negative,
  • 00:17:33.110 --> 00:17:34.190
  • the negative, "I can't do it,"
  • 00:17:34.190 --> 00:17:36.030
  • and you wire that in.
  • 00:17:36.030 --> 00:17:37.200
  • And you're going to then produce
  • 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:38.290
  • the fruit of your thoughts.
  • 00:17:38.290 --> 00:17:40.050
  • So whatever you say and do is
  • 00:17:40.050 --> 00:17:41.050
  • not a random event.
  • 00:17:41.050 --> 00:17:42.090
  • It's the result of what you have
  • 00:17:42.090 --> 00:17:43.130
  • thought about.
  • 00:17:43.130 --> 00:17:44.110
  • Whatever you think about the
  • 00:17:44.110 --> 00:17:45.140
  • most will grow.
  • 00:17:45.140 --> 00:17:46.150
  • Whatever you give energy to will
  • 00:17:46.150 --> 00:17:47.200
  • produce fruit.
  • 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.290
  • - Bishop Jakes: Ooh, stop right
  • 00:17:48.290 --> 00:17:49.210
  • there.
  • 00:17:49.210 --> 00:17:50.110
  • I gotta slow you down.
  • 00:17:50.110 --> 00:17:51.020
  • See, now, when she gets to
  • 00:17:51.020 --> 00:17:51.280
  • talkin' real fast, I have to
  • 00:17:51.280 --> 00:17:52.220
  • slow her down, man.
  • 00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:54.090
  • will grow.
  • 00:17:56.170 --> 00:17:57.220
  • - Christine: Amen.
  • 00:17:57.220 --> 00:17:58.120
  • - Bishop Jakes: Let's just
  • 00:17:58.120 --> 00:17:59.020
  • selah on that.
  • 00:17:59.020 --> 00:18:00.220
  • - Christine: That's true.
  • 00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:01.190
  • - Bishop Jakes: Whatever you
  • 00:18:01.190 --> 00:18:02.170
  • think about, if you're thinkin'
  • 00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:03.120
  • about torment, if you're
  • 00:18:03.120 --> 00:18:04.070
  • thinkin' about pain in your
  • 00:18:04.070 --> 00:18:05.110
  • body, if you're thinkin' about
  • 00:18:05.110 --> 00:18:06.160
  • affliction, if you're thinkin'
  • 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:07.260
  • about depression, if you're
  • 00:18:07.260 --> 00:18:08.290
  • thinkin' about the kids that
  • 00:18:08.290 --> 00:18:09.260
  • won't come home, if you're
  • 00:18:09.260 --> 00:18:10.240
  • thinkin' about your old
  • 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.000
  • boyfriend who ran away on it,
  • 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.080
  • and ridin' on a donkey
  • 00:18:13.080 --> 00:18:14.160
  • somewhere, whatever you think
  • 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:15.270
  • about, it will grow.
  • 00:18:15.270 --> 00:18:18.230
  • Stop it!
  • 00:18:18.230 --> 00:18:20.100
  • Stop it.
  • 00:18:20.100 --> 00:18:21.030
  • Stop it.
  • 00:18:21.030 --> 00:18:21.280
  • Stop it.
  • 00:18:21.280 --> 00:18:22.210
  • Stop it.
  • 00:18:22.250 --> 00:18:25.250
  • And John, I know you've been
  • 00:18:25.250 --> 00:18:27.190
  • going in and out and some of
  • 00:18:27.190 --> 00:18:28.220
  • everywhere, doin' everything.
  • 00:18:28.220 --> 00:18:29.290
  • We've slowed you down to bring
  • 00:18:29.290 --> 00:18:31.260
  • you in here to talk a little
  • 00:18:31.260 --> 00:18:32.260
  • bit.
  • 00:18:32.260 --> 00:18:33.180
  • What do you see God doing with
  • 00:18:33.180 --> 00:18:35.100
  • the body of Christ right now?
  • 00:18:35.100 --> 00:18:37.080
  • Particularly you, because you go
  • 00:18:37.080 --> 00:18:38.280
  • in and out of all kinds of
  • 00:18:38.280 --> 00:18:40.040
  • circles.
  • 00:18:40.040 --> 00:18:41.010
  • I see you everywhere, Baptist,
  • 00:18:41.010 --> 00:18:42.130
  • Methodist, Presbyterian,
  • 00:18:42.130 --> 00:18:43.240
  • Pentecostal, everywhere,
  • 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:44.250
  • Catholics, popes, everywhere.
  • 00:18:44.250 --> 00:18:46.060
  • - John: Well, let me first say
  • 00:18:48.080 --> 00:18:49.100
  • I can't just come into this
  • 00:18:49.100 --> 00:18:50.250
  • moment and start talkin' 'cause
  • 00:18:50.250 --> 00:18:52.030
  • I feel smarter sitting next
  • 00:18:52.030 --> 00:18:53.150
  • to her.
  • 00:18:53.150 --> 00:18:54.180
  • I feel like E is equal to MC
  • 00:18:54.180 --> 00:18:56.020
  • squared, thank you.
  • 00:18:56.020 --> 00:18:56.220
  • I just start, you know,
  • 00:18:56.220 --> 00:18:58.100
  • in 8th grade just sittin' here.
  • 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:02.020
  • I've got my synaptic membranes
  • 00:19:02.020 --> 00:19:03.120
  • back.
  • 00:19:03.120 --> 00:19:04.130
  • But I also wanna give honor.
  • 00:19:04.130 --> 00:19:06.270
  • I wanna give honor to you and
  • 00:19:06.270 --> 00:19:08.020
  • your wife because you have
  • 00:19:08.020 --> 00:19:09.140
  • opened so many doors for men
  • 00:19:09.140 --> 00:19:12.100
  • like myself.
  • 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:13.200
  • For me to start talking before
  • 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.040
  • honoring you would be
  • 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:16.100
  • disrespectful to what the Lord
  • 00:19:16.100 --> 00:19:17.100
  • has done in your life.
  • 00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:18.270
  • If it wasn't for you saying,
  • 00:19:18.270 --> 00:19:20.130
  • "Yes," in West Virginia, if it
  • 00:19:20.130 --> 00:19:21.270
  • wasn't for you pushing him to be
  • 00:19:21.270 --> 00:19:23.010
  • who he is, to be this
  • 00:19:23.010 --> 00:19:24.280
  • multi-dimensional individual in
  • 00:19:24.280 --> 00:19:27.060
  • film, TV, in the ministry phase,
  • 00:19:27.270 --> 00:19:30.270
  • multicultural,
  • 00:19:30.270 --> 00:19:31.260
  • multi-denominational,
  • 00:19:31.260 --> 00:19:32.270
  • counseling presidents.
  • 00:19:32.270 --> 00:19:35.140
  • I just wanna take a moment to
  • 00:19:35.140 --> 00:19:36.220
  • give honor to the man of God if
  • 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:38.010
  • we could, and to the woman that
  • 00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:39.290
  • stands next to him.
  • 00:19:39.290 --> 00:19:42.230
  • Make some noise.
  • 00:19:42.230 --> 00:19:43.250
  • Y'all too quiet in here.
  • 00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:44.250
  • Make some noise.
  • 00:19:44.250 --> 00:19:47.140
  • [applauding]
  • 00:19:47.140 --> 00:19:49.120
  • I think one of the things that
  • 00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:50.030
  • the Lord is teaching me,
  • 00:19:50.030 --> 00:19:51.020
  • especially in a moment like
  • 00:19:51.020 --> 00:19:52.200
  • this, is that theology and
  • 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.000
  • science can be bedfellows.
  • 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.060
  • For too long, we've been afraid
  • 00:19:56.060 --> 00:19:57.290
  • of the idea that there's more to
  • 00:19:57.290 --> 00:19:59.120
  • us than the spiritual component.
  • 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:01.050
  • You know, the whole by and by,
  • 00:20:01.050 --> 00:20:02.140
  • when the morning comes.
  • 00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:03.150
  • But how do you function in the
  • 00:20:03.150 --> 00:20:04.220
  • life that you've gotta live
  • 00:20:04.220 --> 00:20:06.070
  • every day in the natural when
  • 00:20:06.070 --> 00:20:07.250
  • you're dealing with the emotions
  • 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:09.060
  • of heartbreak and the things
  • 00:20:09.060 --> 00:20:10.240
  • that you have to deal with?
  • 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:11.220
  • I'm 6 years into my marriage
  • 00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:13.080
  • with my wife, Aventer,
  • 00:20:13.080 --> 00:20:14.140
  • we got two little kids.
  • 00:20:14.140 --> 00:20:15.200
  • There are times when I get,
  • 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.150
  • she'll say something and
  • 00:20:16.150 --> 00:20:18.060
  • I'll just get offended.
  • 00:20:18.060 --> 00:20:19.050
  • And it's not because of what
  • 00:20:19.050 --> 00:20:20.090
  • she said, but it happens, she
  • 00:20:20.090 --> 00:20:21.180
  • triggered somethin' that I
  • 00:20:21.180 --> 00:20:23.090
  • was offended by years ago.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Absolutely.
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  • - John: And what I've learned
  • 00:20:25.130 --> 00:20:26.080
  • is sometimes you don't heal past
  • 00:20:26.080 --> 00:20:28.030
  • your first rejection.
  • 00:20:28.030 --> 00:20:29.140
  • So here I am at 43, and I'm
  • 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:31.080
  • responding to her based on
  • 00:20:31.080 --> 00:20:32.260
  • something that happened to me
  • 00:20:32.260 --> 00:20:34.160
  • when I was 15.
  • 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:35.180
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yes, sir.
  • 00:20:35.180 --> 00:20:36.100
  • - John: And so it's 28 years
  • 00:20:36.100 --> 00:20:37.110
  • old, and she didn't know that
  • 00:20:37.110 --> 00:20:38.160
  • boy.
  • 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.090
  • She's engaging a man, trying to
  • 00:20:39.090 --> 00:20:40.190
  • figure out, "How are you so
  • 00:20:40.190 --> 00:20:41.280
  • angry about something?"
  • 00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:43.070
  • But it triggered something that
  • 00:20:43.070 --> 00:20:44.140
  • had not healed.
  • 00:20:44.140 --> 00:20:45.190
  • - Bishop Jakes: Right.
  • 00:20:45.190 --> 00:20:46.230
  • - John: So if we have the
  • 00:20:46.230 --> 00:20:47.140
  • Bible, but we don't have this
  • 00:20:47.140 --> 00:20:48.090
  • practical, this scientific to
  • 00:20:48.090 --> 00:20:50.260
  • marry it, being transformed by
  • 00:20:50.260 --> 00:20:52.120
  • the renewing of your mind, then
  • 00:20:52.120 --> 00:20:53.270
  • we're gonna be lost going
  • 00:20:53.270 --> 00:20:55.090
  • forward.
  • 00:20:55.090 --> 00:20:56.090
  • And I think it's critical for
  • 00:20:56.090 --> 00:20:57.230
  • the body of Christ to embrace
  • 00:20:57.230 --> 00:20:59.000
  • just the amazing anointing
  • 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.040
  • that you carry.
  • 00:21:01.040 --> 00:21:02.070
  • And what it represents is,
  • 00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:03.220
  • I believe, the Holy Spirit
  • 00:21:03.220 --> 00:21:05.090
  • bringing the church into the
  • 00:21:05.090 --> 00:21:06.200
  • 21st century, saying, "There is
  • 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.130
  • more to these 66 books
  • 00:21:08.130 --> 00:21:11.030
  • than just reading it
  • 00:21:11.030 --> 00:21:12.040
  • and looking at it on surface."
  • 00:21:12.040 --> 00:21:13.160
  • What you do is you
  • 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.170
  • brought it into a 3D landscape.
  • 00:21:14.170 --> 00:21:16.120
  • And so I just wanna say thank
  • 00:21:16.120 --> 00:21:17.190
  • God for you opening our eyes.
  • 00:21:17.190 --> 00:21:20.070
  • - Christine: Thank you.
  • 00:21:20.070 --> 00:21:21.080
  • - John: I think, for me,
  • 00:21:21.080 --> 00:21:22.210
  • Bishop, what I see happening
  • 00:21:22.210 --> 00:21:24.280
  • is that there's two things.
  • 00:21:24.280 --> 00:21:26.240
  • in this season.
  • 00:21:29.050 --> 00:21:30.050
  • God's opened up doors for me,
  • 00:21:30.050 --> 00:21:31.280
  • and it's not because I have
  • 00:21:31.280 --> 00:21:32.240
  • 43 degrees.
  • 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:33.290
  • It's not because, you know,
  • 00:21:33.290 --> 00:21:35.210
  • I'm the most brilliant guy.
  • 00:21:35.210 --> 00:21:36.280
  • I love God and I know I'm
  • 00:21:36.280 --> 00:21:38.110
  • broken, and I'm willing to let
  • 00:21:38.110 --> 00:21:39.190
  • him use me whenever and however.
  • 00:21:40.020 --> 00:21:43.020
  • be encouraged in that, that God
  • 00:21:45.070 --> 00:21:46.270
  • is not just picking you because
  • 00:21:46.270 --> 00:21:49.060
  • of your amazingness.
  • 00:21:49.060 --> 00:21:50.260
  • He's actually identifying
  • 00:21:50.260 --> 00:21:52.060
  • your brokenness.
  • 00:21:52.060 --> 00:21:53.060
  • Because the more places where
  • 00:21:53.060 --> 00:21:54.170
  • you've been broken, the more
  • 00:21:54.170 --> 00:21:55.170
  • people you can connect to.
  • 00:21:55.170 --> 00:21:56.290
  • So I think we need to stop
  • 00:21:56.290 --> 00:21:59.030
  • hiding our scars, maybe stop
  • 00:21:59.030 --> 00:22:01.010
  • hiding our flaws, because people
  • 00:22:01.010 --> 00:22:02.250
  • can connect to the broken.
  • 00:22:02.250 --> 00:22:04.080
  • I don't want a preacher that's
  • 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:05.150
  • been perfect they whole life.
  • 00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:06.230
  • I can't identify with that
  • 00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:08.120
  • person.
  • 00:22:08.120 --> 00:22:09.140
  • Ma'am, sir, whoever you are,
  • 00:22:09.140 --> 00:22:10.240
  • I like you.
  • 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.060
  • I wish I was you.
  • 00:22:12.060 --> 00:22:13.200
  • But I don't connect to that.
  • 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.040
  • Tell me where you failed so that
  • 00:22:15.040 --> 00:22:17.090
  • I can know what to look out for.
  • 00:22:17.090 --> 00:22:19.000
  • Tell me that you cry at night
  • 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:20.270
  • sometimes.
  • 00:22:20.270 --> 00:22:22.020
  • I need to know that
  • 00:22:22.020 --> 00:22:22.270
  • you're human.
  • 00:22:22.270 --> 00:22:23.180
  • And for too long, I think
  • 00:22:23.180 --> 00:22:24.230
  • there's been this barrier
  • 00:22:24.230 --> 00:22:25.220
  • between the pulpit and the pew.
  • 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:27.090
  • And I think God is tearing that
  • 00:22:27.090 --> 00:22:29.110
  • down to let folk know we battle
  • 00:22:29.110 --> 00:22:30.060
  • too.
  • 00:22:30.060 --> 00:22:31.160
  • We struggle too.
  • 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:32.280
  • And we need healing too.
  • 00:22:32.280 --> 00:22:34.140
  • And so I think that's a healthy
  • 00:22:34.140 --> 00:22:37.100
  • place for leaders to be.
  • 00:22:37.100 --> 00:22:38.270
  • - Bishop Jakes: You know, I'm
  • 00:22:38.270 --> 00:22:39.210
  • excited in this season that the
  • 00:22:39.210 --> 00:22:42.020
  • church used to be, it used to be
  • 00:22:42.020 --> 00:22:43.280
  • where they, we didn't talk about
  • 00:22:43.280 --> 00:22:45.130
  • things.
  • 00:22:45.130 --> 00:22:46.060
  • We talked about Jesus.
  • 00:22:46.060 --> 00:22:47.090
  • And let me tell ya somethin'.
  • 00:22:47.090 --> 00:22:48.080
  • Preaching is a wonderful place
  • 00:22:48.080 --> 00:22:49.280
  • to hide pain because you're
  • 00:22:49.280 --> 00:22:52.000
  • talkin' about everything but
  • 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.250
  • you.
  • 00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:54.190
  • - John: Ooh.
  • 00:22:54.190 --> 00:22:55.120
  • - Bishop Jakes: You understand?
  • 00:22:55.120 --> 00:22:57.130
  • You get to talk about, you get
  • 00:22:57.130 --> 00:22:58.180
  • to talk about what you know
  • 00:22:58.180 --> 00:22:59.270
  • without talkin' about who you
  • 00:22:59.270 --> 00:23:01.080
  • are.
  • 00:23:01.080 --> 00:23:02.190
  • And then you reproduce a
  • 00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:04.120
  • generation of people who are
  • 00:23:04.120 --> 00:23:05.200
  • talkin' about what they know,
  • 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:07.180
  • but not about who they are.
  • 00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:08.250
  • And it causes us to be lonely.
  • 00:23:08.250 --> 00:23:10.160
  • It causes us to be isolated.
  • 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.080
  • It causes us to be frustrated.
  • 00:23:12.080 --> 00:23:14.070
  • It causes us to be phony.
  • 00:23:14.070 --> 00:23:15.150
  • It causes us to be judgmental.
  • 00:23:15.150 --> 00:23:17.020
  • And it causes us to be upset.
  • 00:23:17.020 --> 00:23:19.150
  • And the reason I wanted, you
  • 00:23:19.150 --> 00:23:21.060
  • know, I'm excited.
  • 00:23:21.060 --> 00:23:22.160
  • I'm gettin' excited.
  • 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.060
  • I'm gettin' all--
  • 00:23:23.060 --> 00:23:23.270
  • - John: Go for it, please.
  • 00:23:23.270 --> 00:23:24.240
  • - Bishop Jakes: But the reason
  • 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.210
  • I think that you all are such a
  • 00:23:25.210 --> 00:23:27.070
  • powerful combination, and in
  • 00:23:27.070 --> 00:23:28.220
  • particular, both of these are
  • 00:23:28.220 --> 00:23:30.110
  • gonna be our guests at MegaFest
  • 00:23:30.110 --> 00:23:31.220
  • so that we can just get
  • 00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:33.030
  • everything we can out of 'em.
  • 00:23:33.060 --> 00:23:36.060
  • I just got tired of seein'
  • 00:23:36.060 --> 00:23:37.140
  • people jump and shout and jump
  • 00:23:37.140 --> 00:23:38.200
  • and shout and go home miserable.
  • 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:40.110
  • - Christine: Exactly.
  • 00:23:40.110 --> 00:23:41.000
  • - John: Wow.
  • 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:41.190
  • - Bishop Jakes: Jump and shout,
  • 00:23:41.190 --> 00:23:42.110
  • give money, and turn around,
  • 00:23:42.110 --> 00:23:43.030
  • it's holler, "Jesus," seven
  • 00:23:43.030 --> 00:23:44.060
  • times, and run around on one
  • 00:23:44.060 --> 00:23:45.080
  • foot, and go home depressed and
  • 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:47.000
  • suicidal.
  • 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.120
  • There's somethin' that's got to
  • 00:23:48.120 --> 00:23:49.270
  • happen beyond your spirit that's
  • 00:23:49.270 --> 00:23:52.070
  • got to happen in your mind.
  • 00:23:52.070 --> 00:23:53.110
  • The metamorphoo,
  • 00:23:53.110 --> 00:23:54.250
  • the transformation of a mind,
  • 00:23:54.250 --> 00:23:56.170
  • the twisting of the mind, that
  • 00:23:56.170 --> 00:23:58.070
  • the mind can be transformed
  • 00:23:58.070 --> 00:24:00.080
  • and be renewed, be renewed.
  • 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:03.050
  • You can get new clothes.
  • 00:24:03.050 --> 00:24:04.120
  • You could get new vernacular.
  • 00:24:04.120 --> 00:24:06.080
  • You can get a new house.
  • 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:07.190
  • You could get a new everything
  • 00:24:07.190 --> 00:24:08.150
  • else.
  • 00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:09.000
  • But if you don't get a new mind,
  • 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.050
  • if you don't have a new attitude
  • 00:24:11.050 --> 00:24:13.040
  • about yourself, a new year
  • 00:24:13.040 --> 00:24:15.090
  • doesn't mean anything if you
  • 00:24:15.090 --> 00:24:16.100
  • don't have a new you.
  • 00:24:16.100 --> 00:24:18.080
  • So when you
  • 00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:19.060
  • start looking at this and we
  • 00:24:19.060 --> 00:24:20.140
  • start understanding these things
  • 00:24:20.140 --> 00:24:21.200
  • that are happening--you know,
  • 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:22.190
  • every day we see people who are
  • 00:24:22.190 --> 00:24:23.240
  • coming to us and they want a new
  • 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:24.230
  • marriage, and some of 'em want
  • 00:24:24.230 --> 00:24:26.110
  • a new mate.
  • 00:24:26.110 --> 00:24:28.150
  • That's another show.
  • 00:24:28.150 --> 00:24:29.100
  • We'll talk about that another
  • 00:24:29.100 --> 00:24:30.030
  • time.
  • 00:24:30.030 --> 00:24:31.060
  • You know, people are trying to
  • 00:24:31.060 --> 00:24:32.100
  • find that thing that you're
  • 00:24:32.100 --> 00:24:34.200
  • talking about, about newness of
  • 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.260
  • life, newness of life.
  • 00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:38.240
  • And I think it is most
  • 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.230
  • embarrassing for Christians
  • 00:24:39.230 --> 00:24:41.210
  • because we're taught we're
  • 00:24:41.210 --> 00:24:43.120
  • supposed to have the newness of
  • 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.240
  • life, and we do in one way, but
  • 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.100
  • we're not experiencing that
  • 00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:49.190
  • newness.
  • 00:24:49.190 --> 00:24:50.240
  • What would you say to that
  • 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.120
  • person who is dealing with that
  • 00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:54.080
  • first rejection you talk about,
  • 00:24:54.080 --> 00:24:56.010
  • that guilt?
  • 00:24:56.010 --> 00:24:57.010
  • That maybe they're traumatized
  • 00:24:57.010 --> 00:24:58.220
  • and they feel ashamed because
  • 00:24:58.220 --> 00:25:00.060
  • they say, "Well, I'm a
  • 00:25:00.060 --> 00:25:01.040
  • Christian.
  • 00:25:01.040 --> 00:25:01.230
  • I can't be depressed.
  • 00:25:01.230 --> 00:25:03.070
  • I'm a Christian.
  • 00:25:03.070 --> 00:25:04.020
  • I can't be lonely.
  • 00:25:04.020 --> 00:25:05.090
  • I'm a Christian.
  • 00:25:05.090 --> 00:25:05.290
  • I'm supposed to have joy."
  • 00:25:05.290 --> 00:25:07.110
  • If we stop fakin' it, if we just
  • 00:25:07.110 --> 00:25:09.160
  • stop fakin' it for a minute and
  • 00:25:09.170 --> 00:25:12.170
  • be real.
  • 00:25:12.170 --> 00:25:14.010
  • What would you prescribe as a
  • 00:25:14.010 --> 00:25:16.280
  • path forward for the person who
  • 00:25:16.280 --> 00:25:19.110
  • has newness in their spirit, but
  • 00:25:19.110 --> 00:25:22.010
  • they're having hell in their
  • 00:25:22.010 --> 00:25:23.270
  • mind?
  • 00:25:23.270 --> 00:25:24.230
  • - Christine: That's a really
  • 00:25:24.230 --> 00:25:26.150
  • brilliant question.
  • 00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:27.040
  • Okay, there's something called
  • 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:28.030
  • "cognitive dissonance."
  • 00:25:28.030 --> 00:25:28.230
  • And what you've
  • 00:25:28.230 --> 00:25:29.120
  • just both been describing
  • 00:25:29.120 --> 00:25:30.120
  • so eloquently is the fact that
  • 00:25:30.120 --> 00:25:32.160
  • we actually get brain damage
  • 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.070
  • and then we are actually
  • 00:25:36.120 --> 00:25:37.100
  • another way.
  • 00:25:37.100 --> 00:25:37.250
  • So when we put on this whole
  • 00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:38.180
  • face, and we, and yell,
  • 00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:39.290
  • "Hallelujah," and go home and
  • 00:25:39.290 --> 00:25:40.230
  • you're still depressed, it's
  • 00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:41.180
  • because there's a disintegration
  • 00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:42.230
  • between the spirit, the soul,
  • 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:44.100
  • and the body.
  • 00:25:44.100 --> 00:25:45.010
  • So you've gotta have the spirit
  • 00:25:45.010 --> 00:25:46.200
  • and the soul and the body
  • 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:47.160
  • reintegrated.
  • 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:48.080
  • And it's the mind.
  • 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:49.030
  • As the Scriptures say, "If your
  • 00:25:49.030 --> 00:25:50.190
  • mind is not well, nothing else
  • 00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:51.240
  • will be well."
  • 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:52.210
  • So through our mind,
  • 00:25:52.210 --> 00:25:53.150
  • if we choose to actually
  • 00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:54.210
  • us, that we can raise our hands
  • 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.080
  • and worship and get all excited
  • 00:25:58.080 --> 00:25:59.110
  • in church, but that we carry
  • 00:25:59.110 --> 00:26:00.150
  • that through into the practical.
  • 00:26:00.150 --> 00:26:02.000
  • Now, we're made of 75 to 100
  • 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.040
  • trillion cells.
  • 00:26:04.040 --> 00:26:05.020
  • This is our substrate through
  • 00:26:05.020 --> 00:26:06.200
  • which we're actually working.
  • 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.000
  • So but our mind control that and
  • 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:09.190
  • our mind chooses whether we're
  • 00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:11.090
  • gonna listen to the spirit, our
  • 00:26:11.090 --> 00:26:12.100
  • spirit man, and whether we're
  • 00:26:12.100 --> 00:26:13.180
  • gonna let our spirit man listen
  • 00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:14.250
  • to the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:26:14.250 --> 00:26:15.200
  • So our mind's very powerful.
  • 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:16.210
  • God says we have a love, power,
  • 00:26:16.210 --> 00:26:18.010
  • and a sound mind.
  • 00:26:18.010 --> 00:26:18.290
  • So what I would say to someone
  • 00:26:18.290 --> 00:26:19.260
  • is to recognize a couple of
  • 00:26:19.260 --> 00:26:21.080
  • things.
  • 00:26:21.080 --> 00:26:21.270
  • First of all, is that you cannot
  • 00:26:21.270 --> 00:26:23.140
  • control the events and
  • 00:26:23.140 --> 00:26:24.250
  • circumstances of your life.
  • 00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:26.130
  • But you can control your
  • 00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:28.090
  • reactions to the events and
  • 00:26:28.090 --> 00:26:30.210
  • circumstances.
  • 00:26:30.210 --> 00:26:31.120
  • That's number one.
  • 00:26:31.120 --> 00:26:32.130
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yes, yes, yes.
  • 00:26:32.130 --> 00:26:33.200
  • - Christine: Number two is that
  • 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.250
  • when you pretend something
  • 00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:36.010
  • doesn't exist and it does exist
  • 00:26:36.010 --> 00:26:38.030
  • on the inside, or you put on
  • 00:26:38.030 --> 00:26:39.040
  • this front for the church, et
  • 00:26:39.040 --> 00:26:40.140
  • cetera, or for your friends, but
  • 00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:42.100
  • inside you're dying, you are
  • 00:26:42.100 --> 00:26:44.020
  • actually creating cognitive
  • 00:26:44.020 --> 00:26:45.180
  • dissonance in your brain
  • 00:26:45.180 --> 00:26:47.000
  • and your body.
  • 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.030
  • You're disintegrating between
  • 00:26:48.030 --> 00:26:49.070
  • mind and brain.
  • 00:26:49.070 --> 00:26:50.000
  • And it causes confusion.
  • 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.140
  • It causes brain damage.
  • 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:52.160
  • That's gonna manifest in
  • 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:53.170
  • symptoms of mental ill health.
  • 00:26:53.170 --> 00:26:55.160
  • Mental ill health is not
  • 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:56.240
  • a disease.
  • 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.120
  • It is a symptom of an underlying
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  • issue that's not dealt with.
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  • So what we need to do is stand
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  • in the arms of God.
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  • Step into the love zone and
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  • recognize that, "That's not who
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  • I am.
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  • That's who I have become."
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  • Stand in the love zone.
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  • Separate from that and then
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  • recognize that change is not
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  • instantaneous.
  • 00:27:14.020 --> 00:27:15.040
  • We live in a Twitter society,
  • 00:27:15.040 --> 00:27:16.160
  • 140 characters, 10 seconds, and
  • 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.110
  • we want, "God, lay hands on me.
  • 00:27:18.110 --> 00:27:20.050
  • Bishop, lay on me.
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  • Serita, lay hands on me."
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  • It's not like that.
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  • The race that Paul talks about,
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  • scientifically, we see, is a
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  • minimum of 63 days before you
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  • will see change in a behavior
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  • pattern, 3 cycles of 21.
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  • Most people give up between day
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  • 2 and day 4.
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  • - John: Jesus, help me.
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  • - Christine: So these are
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  • little--
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  • - Bishop Jakes: This is
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  • amazing.
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  • We could really go into that.
  • 00:27:38.230 --> 00:27:40.050
  • I'm processing all that.
  • 00:27:40.050 --> 00:27:41.210
  • I need to just go everywhere
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  • with you and translate to
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  • everybody what she's sayin'.
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  • That is not who you are.
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  • That is not who you are.
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  • What happened to you, how you
  • 00:27:51.130 --> 00:27:53.000
  • react, how define you,
  • 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.030
  • "I just, I'm just a hothead.
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  • I just have a temper.
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  • I just got to speak my mind."
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  • That's not who you are.
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  • You're not really hateful and
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  • bitter and angry and vindictive
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  • and frustrated or depressed or
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  • suicidal or confused or
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  • alienated or any other way you
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  • describe yourself.
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  • That is who you have become.
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  • - Christine: Amen.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: That is who you
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  • have become.
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  • Doc is talkin' about is cycles
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  • 21 days.
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  • Maybe that's why Daniel prayed
  • 00:28:22.100 --> 00:28:23.130
  • for 21 days.
  • 00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:24.180
  • The renewing of the mind is
  • 00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:25.250
  • possible.
  • 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:26.240
  • Maybe that's what you need to do
  • 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:27.220
  • is reprogram yourself and
  • 00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:29.250
  • recognize, divorce yourself from
  • 00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:31.230
  • who you have become.
  • 00:28:31.230 --> 00:28:33.090
  • Find out who you are.
  • 00:28:33.090 --> 00:28:34.180
  • And maybe Jesus was right when
  • 00:28:34.180 --> 00:28:36.040
  • he said, "Ye shall know the
  • 00:28:36.040 --> 00:28:37.060
  • truth, and the truth shall
  • 00:28:37.060 --> 00:28:39.060
  • set you free."
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  • My God, we got somethin'
  • 00:28:41.120 --> 00:28:42.210
  • for you today.
  • 00:28:42.210 --> 00:28:44.000
  • It's gonna be awesome.
  • 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:44.290
  • It's gonna be incredible.
  • 00:28:44.290 --> 00:28:46.020
  • I'm so excited.
  • 00:28:46.020 --> 00:28:47.000
  • When we come back, we're gonna
  • 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:47.280
  • talk a little bit more.
  • 00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:49.000
  • We're gonna have this dynamic
  • 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.170
  • duo and a whole lot more on our
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  • stage.
  • 00:28:52.100 --> 00:28:53.030
  • I think this is a time that we
  • 00:28:53.030 --> 00:28:54.110
  • need to come away and be healed.
  • 00:28:54.110 --> 00:28:56.070
  • You're trying to heal other
  • 00:28:56.070 --> 00:28:56.290
  • people.
  • 00:28:56.290 --> 00:28:57.160
  • You're hurting yourself.
  • 00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:58.130
  • You're trying to give to the
  • 00:28:58.130 --> 00:28:59.060
  • kids and give to everybody else.
  • 00:28:59.060 --> 00:29:00.200
  • My wife talks about how much
  • 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.030
  • women give and do and serve
  • 00:29:02.030 --> 00:29:03.060
  • and have to wear a thousand
  • 00:29:03.060 --> 00:29:05.240
  • different hats, and I'm not just
  • 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:06.270
  • talkin' about the ones on your
  • 00:29:06.270 --> 00:29:07.260
  • head.
  • 00:29:07.260 --> 00:29:08.170
  • We're gonna take all those hats
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  • off you when you come to
  • 00:29:09.110 --> 00:29:11.040
  • MegaFest, Woman Art Loosed.
  • 00:29:11.040 --> 00:29:12.100
  • We're gonna take all those hats
  • 00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:13.140
  • off you and get down in that
  • 00:29:13.140 --> 00:29:14.190
  • brain and work on you, girl,
  • 00:29:14.190 --> 00:29:16.070
  • make you a better person.
  • 00:29:16.070 --> 00:29:17.180
  • Somebody shout, "Hallelujah."
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  • - John: Hallelujah!
  • 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.110
  • - Bishop Jakes: I am so proud.
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  • Let me tell ya, somethin'
  • 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.110
  • amazing has happened.
  • 00:29:23.110 --> 00:29:24.170
  • When I got the call from TBN
  • 00:29:24.170 --> 00:29:26.160
  • that they had chosen my book
  • 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.130
  • this month, what a wonderful,
  • 00:29:30.230 --> 00:29:32.080
  • powerful thing.
  • 00:29:32.080 --> 00:29:33.110
  • I have the unique opportunity
  • 00:29:33.110 --> 00:29:35.050
  • of going in and out CNN and Fox
  • 00:29:35.050 --> 00:29:37.220
  • and MNSBC, did I say--?
  • 00:29:37.260 --> 00:29:40.260
  • MSNBC, there, MSNBC.
  • 00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:43.110
  • Too many alphabets, ABCs,
  • 00:29:43.110 --> 00:29:45.080
  • and CBS, all of it.
  • 00:29:45.080 --> 00:29:46.030
  • I go all over the place.
  • 00:29:46.030 --> 00:29:47.250
  • I have a secular television
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  • show.
  • 00:29:48.290 --> 00:29:49.170
  • I've been on Christian
  • 00:29:49.170 --> 00:29:50.130
  • television for years.
  • 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:51.100
  • This is the only place,
  • 00:29:51.100 --> 00:29:53.280
  • Christian television, where you
  • 00:29:53.280 --> 00:29:55.180
  • can get this kind of content and
  • 00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:57.280
  • this kind of ministry 24 hours
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  • a day.
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  • - John: That's right.
  • 00:30:02.050 --> 00:30:02.240
  • - Bishop Jakes: Okay?
  • 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.260
  • - John: That's right.
  • 00:30:03.260 --> 00:30:04.160
  • - Bishop Jakes: You can't get
  • 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.070
  • it anywhere else.
  • 00:30:05.070 --> 00:30:06.150
  • Christian television, where you
  • 00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:07.240
  • can get slain in the Spirit,
  • 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.290
  • get prayer, and start cryin',
  • 00:30:08.290 --> 00:30:10.070
  • and all that kinda stuff.
  • 00:30:10.070 --> 00:30:11.160
  • We're trying to infiltrate the
  • 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:13.040
  • world systems, which is our
  • 00:30:13.040 --> 00:30:15.000
  • calling, to go into all the
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  • world.
  • 00:30:16.190 --> 00:30:17.080
  • But this is a place where we can
  • 00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:18.150
  • shake it like it's hot, and drop
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  • it down, and lay hands, and
  • 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.190
  • rebuke the devil, and do some
  • 00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:23.030
  • binding.
  • 00:30:23.030 --> 00:30:24.070
  • Your support of this ministry is
  • 00:30:24.070 --> 00:30:26.100
  • very important.
  • 00:30:26.100 --> 00:30:27.260
  • The reason that I wrote this
  • 00:30:27.260 --> 00:30:29.250
  • book, "Destiny," is because so
  • 00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:31.180
  • many of us have gotten
  • 00:30:31.180 --> 00:30:32.170
  • off-course.
  • 00:30:32.170 --> 00:30:33.170
  • - Christine: Wow, Bishop.
  • 00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:34.270
  • - Bishop Jakes: We're living
  • 00:30:34.270 --> 00:30:35.210
  • our lives, but we don't know
  • 00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:36.230
  • where we should be.
  • 00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:38.030
  • Job went through all kinds of
  • 00:30:38.030 --> 00:30:39.250
  • trouble in his life, but he
  • 00:30:39.250 --> 00:30:41.090
  • always knew where he was.
  • 00:30:41.090 --> 00:30:43.170
  • He said, "The Lord knows the way
  • 00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:44.280
  • that I take."
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  • - Christine: Thank you, God.
  • 00:30:46.060 --> 00:30:46.290
  • - Bishop Jakes: "And when he
  • 00:30:46.290 --> 00:30:47.240
  • has tried me, I shall come forth
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  • as pure gold."
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  • There is a way.
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  • There is a course that God has,
  • 00:30:50.170 --> 00:30:52.100
  • a destiny course for your life
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  • that brings fulfillment, joy,
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  • and peace.
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  • And I'm so honored that my
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  • materials would be the gift
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  • You're gonna get more
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  • information how you can get my
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  • materials and how you can
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  • support this great ministry
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  • just by watching this.
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  • dream God has put in your heart?
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  • your faith with a new resource
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  • and Pastor Mark Batterson
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  • into Your Destiny."
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  • These two gifted pastors
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  • will show you how to
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  • boldly fight for your God-given
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  • dream and victoriously step
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  • into your destiny.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Every morning
  • 00:31:31.050 --> 00:31:32.030
  • you wake up you have a destiny
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  • to fulfill.
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  • And the reason I know you
  • 00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:35.260
  • have a destiny to fulfill
  • 00:31:35.260 --> 00:31:36.280
  • is you are not dead.
  • 00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:38.170
  • When you want out of destiny,
  • 00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:40.180
  • you will die.
  • 00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:42.040
  • - Mark Batterson: I think at
  • 00:31:42.040 --> 00:31:42.290
  • some point you gotta take that
  • 00:31:42.290 --> 00:31:44.050
  • step of faith and say, "Even if
  • 00:31:44.050 --> 00:31:45.220
  • I fail, this is a dream worth
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  • goin' after."
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  • - male announcer: Through this
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  • new multi-disc series that
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  • is both audio CD and DVD,
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  • far they got off-course,
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  • by understanding
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  • that you have a destiny.
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  • "I have finished my course,"
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  • Paul said.
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  • Don't worry about other people's
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  • course.
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  • Get out of other people's
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  • business.
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  • That's none of your business.
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  • Focus on your course.
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  • "I'm gonna finish my course and
  • 00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:28.270
  • get back on the road to
  • 00:33:28.270 --> 00:33:29.250
  • destiny."
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  • I don't know why, but
  • 00:33:30.170 --> 00:33:31.200
  • while they were playin' that, I
  • 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:32.220
  • thought about you standin' up in
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  • our old church back up in
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  • Montgomery, in the JC Penney's
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  • dress, that lilac dress.
  • 00:33:38.170 --> 00:33:40.280
  • I'm comin' for you.
  • 00:33:40.280 --> 00:33:42.270
  • - Serita: I was dressed up.
  • 00:33:42.270 --> 00:33:43.210
  • I was dressed up.
  • 00:33:43.210 --> 00:33:44.140
  • - Bishop Jakes: You were
  • 00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:45.040
  • dressed up with the homemade
  • 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:45.250
  • corsage on.
  • 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:46.170
  • - Serita: Yes.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: All the way
  • 00:33:47.080 --> 00:33:48.010
  • back to those years, when we
  • 00:33:48.010 --> 00:33:50.180
  • were young, you have always had
  • 00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:52.190
  • a passion for ministry to women.
  • 00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:55.170
  • - Serita: Yes.
  • 00:33:55.170 --> 00:33:56.150
  • - Bishop Jakes: And you used
  • 00:33:56.150 --> 00:33:57.190
  • to--my wife used to have this
  • 00:33:57.190 --> 00:33:58.150
  • little group called Sarah's
  • 00:33:58.150 --> 00:33:59.100
  • Daughters.
  • 00:33:59.100 --> 00:34:00.050
  • And she would gather the women
  • 00:34:00.050 --> 00:34:01.050
  • together and start ministering
  • 00:34:01.050 --> 00:34:02.000
  • to them.
  • 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.020
  • How important is it for women,
  • 00:34:03.020 --> 00:34:05.270
  • in particular, to get away?
  • 00:34:05.270 --> 00:34:07.150
  • And what happens when they do?
  • 00:34:07.150 --> 00:34:09.190
  • - Serita: I think when you sent
  • 00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:11.010
  • me to a conference, it was just
  • 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:13.040
  • all women in the room, and there
  • 00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:15.110
  • was such a reckless abandonment
  • 00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:17.260
  • of worship, and it didn't matter
  • 00:34:17.260 --> 00:34:20.110
  • who was in the room.
  • 00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:22.050
  • We just fell out right in the
  • 00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:24.190
  • glory and presence of God and
  • 00:34:24.190 --> 00:34:26.120
  • just started emptying out
  • 00:34:26.120 --> 00:34:28.290
  • whatever our sorrows were,
  • 00:34:28.290 --> 00:34:31.060
  • whatever our concerns or worries
  • 00:34:31.060 --> 00:34:32.160
  • were.
  • 00:34:32.160 --> 00:34:33.150
  • And I think that there's such a
  • 00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:35.020
  • sorority, a sisterhood, that we
  • 00:34:35.260 --> 00:34:38.260
  • deny ourselves as women.
  • 00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:41.040
  • There's so much that we can
  • 00:34:41.040 --> 00:34:42.270
  • glean from one another, from
  • 00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:44.170
  • generation to generation, and
  • 00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:45.290
  • even from eye to eye.
  • 00:34:45.290 --> 00:34:48.240
  • Sometimes I don't even have to
  • 00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:49.200
  • say anything to my sister.
  • 00:34:49.200 --> 00:34:51.170
  • I can look in her eyes and tell
  • 00:34:51.170 --> 00:34:53.190
  • that the windows of her soul
  • 00:34:53.190 --> 00:34:55.230
  • are weeping.
  • 00:34:55.230 --> 00:34:57.080
  • There's rain on the inside
  • 00:34:57.080 --> 00:34:59.100
  • of her.
  • 00:34:59.100 --> 00:35:00.190
  • And I always, from a little girl
  • 00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:03.080
  • forward, wanted to embrace other
  • 00:35:03.080 --> 00:35:05.210
  • little girls to let them know,
  • 00:35:05.210 --> 00:35:07.070
  • "It's gonna be okay."
  • 00:35:07.070 --> 00:35:08.180
  • And talking to Dr. Caroline and
  • 00:35:08.180 --> 00:35:10.280
  • Pastor John today, it was just,
  • 00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:14.010
  • if they would just change their
  • 00:35:14.010 --> 00:35:15.170
  • mind about what happened to
  • 00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:18.060
  • them, how other women have
  • 00:35:18.060 --> 00:35:20.140
  • treated or scorned them, even
  • 00:35:20.140 --> 00:35:22.060
  • their mothers sometimes,
  • 00:35:22.060 --> 00:35:23.290
  • and just know that, "I'm better
  • 00:35:23.290 --> 00:35:26.000
  • than what happened to me,
  • 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:27.100
  • and God is on my side.
  • 00:35:27.100 --> 00:35:30.080
  • And everything is gonna be
  • 00:35:30.080 --> 00:35:31.190
  • all right."
  • 00:35:31.190 --> 00:35:32.170
  • Now, being a grandmother
  • 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:33.280
  • of daughters, granddaughters,
  • 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.290
  • I am instilling that into, from
  • 00:35:35.290 --> 00:35:38.120
  • like early, early, early, I tell
  • 00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:40.220
  • them, "You're a big sister.
  • 00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:42.220
  • Your sister's looking at you,
  • 00:35:42.220 --> 00:35:44.110
  • and you're responsible for her.
  • 00:35:44.110 --> 00:35:46.030
  • For all of that showin' off that
  • 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:47.200
  • you're doing, you're gonna have
  • 00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:49.020
  • to cut it out because you're
  • 00:35:49.020 --> 00:35:50.060
  • teaching Ella how to show off."
  • 00:35:50.060 --> 00:35:52.180
  • And it gave her such a sense of,
  • 00:35:52.180 --> 00:35:54.160
  • "Okay, I'm in charge of
  • 00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:55.190
  • somebody."
  • 00:35:55.190 --> 00:35:56.170
  • - Bishop Jakes: Right, right.
  • 00:35:56.170 --> 00:35:57.140
  • - Serita: And so you're in
  • 00:35:57.140 --> 00:35:58.040
  • charge of you.
  • 00:35:58.040 --> 00:35:59.110
  • Whatever happened to you, you
  • 00:35:59.110 --> 00:36:01.080
  • can, as Dr. Caroline, Pastor
  • 00:36:01.080 --> 00:36:04.010
  • John, said, you can change it.
  • 00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:05.260
  • You can erase it like it never
  • 00:36:05.260 --> 00:36:07.150
  • happened just by going in your
  • 00:36:07.150 --> 00:36:10.000
  • mind and letting the windows of
  • 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.190
  • your soul start speaking life
  • 00:36:11.190 --> 00:36:13.150
  • and not doom and gloom.
  • 00:36:13.290 --> 00:36:16.290
  • God has a purpose for you,
  • 00:36:16.290 --> 00:36:18.170
  • little girl.
  • 00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:19.120
  • Inside every woman there's
  • 00:36:19.120 --> 00:36:20.230
  • a little girl.
  • 00:36:20.230 --> 00:36:22.130
  • And inside every little girl
  • 00:36:22.130 --> 00:36:23.250
  • there's a woman.
  • 00:36:23.250 --> 00:36:25.120
  • What are you teaching her?
  • 00:36:25.120 --> 00:36:27.170
  • - Bishop Jakes: That's
  • 00:36:27.170 --> 00:36:28.050
  • powerful.
  • 00:36:28.050 --> 00:36:29.110
  • That's absolutely powerful.
  • 00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:32.070
  • We started something,
  • 00:36:32.070 --> 00:36:33.160
  • Dr. Caroline, years ago.
  • 00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:35.010
  • I mean, no TVs, no cameras,
  • 00:36:35.010 --> 00:36:37.090
  • no nothin', no crowd,
  • 00:36:37.090 --> 00:36:39.020
  • in a little storefront church.
  • 00:36:39.020 --> 00:36:40.240
  • I started teachin' out of Luke
  • 00:36:40.240 --> 00:36:42.150
  • 13, the text about the woman
  • 00:36:42.190 --> 00:36:45.190
  • being bowed over for 18 years
  • 00:36:45.190 --> 00:36:46.250
  • and could in no wise lift up
  • 00:36:46.250 --> 00:36:48.060
  • herself, and how Jesus saw her,
  • 00:36:48.060 --> 00:36:51.060
  • that he saw her.
  • 00:36:51.060 --> 00:36:52.100
  • Because so many women today, and
  • 00:36:52.100 --> 00:36:55.040
  • not just women, but men, really,
  • 00:36:55.040 --> 00:36:56.290
  • don't feel seen.
  • 00:36:56.290 --> 00:36:58.200
  • Invisible in their own house.
  • 00:37:01.040 --> 00:37:02.090
  • Invisible on the job.
  • 00:37:02.090 --> 00:37:03.230
  • Jesus saw her.
  • 00:37:03.230 --> 00:37:05.180
  • And he called her.
  • 00:37:05.180 --> 00:37:07.110
  • And what amazed me about it is
  • 00:37:07.110 --> 00:37:08.280
  • he called her broken.
  • 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.100
  • He didn't call her well.
  • 00:37:11.100 --> 00:37:12.240
  • He didn't call her after she
  • 00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:13.260
  • recovered.
  • 00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:14.210
  • He didn't call her after she got
  • 00:37:14.210 --> 00:37:15.290
  • her hair done and her makeup on.
  • 00:37:15.290 --> 00:37:17.140
  • He didn't call her after she
  • 00:37:17.140 --> 00:37:18.150
  • made a certain amount of money.
  • 00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:19.160
  • He called her limping and broken
  • 00:37:19.180 --> 00:37:22.180
  • and torn and tattered.
  • 00:37:22.180 --> 00:37:24.190
  • And he called her and he spoke
  • 00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:27.080
  • that was transformative.
  • 00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:31.050
  • And you really hit on it.
  • 00:37:31.050 --> 00:37:32.050
  • I don't know where you were back
  • 00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:33.140
  • when I was teaching that Sunday
  • 00:37:33.140 --> 00:37:34.140
  • school class.
  • 00:37:34.140 --> 00:37:35.100
  • I could've used some of those
  • 00:37:35.100 --> 00:37:36.220
  • big words, Jesus, back then.
  • 00:37:36.220 --> 00:37:38.150
  • But he told her somethin' about
  • 00:37:38.150 --> 00:37:40.280
  • herself that totally
  • 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.090
  • contradicted what she looked
  • 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:43.090
  • like.
  • 00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:44.040
  • She looked like she was bent
  • 00:37:44.040 --> 00:37:46.010
  • over.
  • 00:37:46.010 --> 00:37:48.010
  • She looked like she was
  • 00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:48.250
  • crippled.
  • 00:37:48.250 --> 00:37:50.000
  • And some of us mentally,
  • 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.040
  • emotionally, financially,
  • 00:37:52.040 --> 00:37:53.190
  • martially, the situation does
  • 00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:55.130
  • not look good.
  • 00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:56.210
  • Jesus did not say to her,
  • 00:37:56.210 --> 00:37:59.050
  • "Woman, I'm going to loose you.
  • 00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:01.100
  • Woman, when I finish with you,
  • 00:38:01.100 --> 00:38:02.280
  • you're gonna be loose.
  • 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.040
  • Woman, someday you're gonna be
  • 00:38:04.040 --> 00:38:05.080
  • loose," he said, "Woman, thou
  • 00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:07.110
  • art loosed."
  • 00:38:07.110 --> 00:38:09.210
  • - Serita: Right now.
  • 00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:10.150
  • - Bishop Jakes: He totally
  • 00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:12.130
  • contradicted what her eyes saw,
  • 00:38:12.130 --> 00:38:15.080
  • what her ears heard, what other
  • 00:38:15.080 --> 00:38:17.060
  • people were saying about it.
  • 00:38:17.060 --> 00:38:18.120
  • The Word of God stood out
  • 00:38:18.120 --> 00:38:19.170
  • separate from all of that and
  • 00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:21.010
  • said, "I don't care what it
  • 00:38:21.010 --> 00:38:22.170
  • looks like.
  • 00:38:22.170 --> 00:38:23.140
  • I don't care how bowed over
  • 00:38:23.140 --> 00:38:24.220
  • you are.
  • 00:38:24.220 --> 00:38:25.140
  • I don't care how broke you are.
  • 00:38:25.140 --> 00:38:27.030
  • I don't care who left you,
  • 00:38:27.030 --> 00:38:28.070
  • betrayed you, raped or molested
  • 00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:29.260
  • you, thou art," not gonna be,
  • 00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:32.020
  • "thou art loosed
  • 00:38:32.020 --> 00:38:34.060
  • from thine infirmity."
  • 00:38:34.060 --> 00:38:35.150
  • And I started
  • 00:38:35.150 --> 00:38:36.070
  • teachin' that in a storefront
  • 00:38:36.070 --> 00:38:38.150
  • church to about 43 women in a
  • 00:38:38.150 --> 00:38:40.250
  • Sunday school class and ended up
  • 00:38:40.250 --> 00:38:42.250
  • in the Georgia Dome with 86.000
  • 00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:46.050
  • women from all over the world.
  • 00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:47.270
  • You understand what I'm talkin'
  • 00:38:47.270 --> 00:38:49.160
  • about?
  • 00:38:49.160 --> 00:38:51.060
  • we're gonna be doing these
  • 00:38:54.010 --> 00:38:54.290
  • meetings.
  • 00:38:54.290 --> 00:38:55.190
  • I don't know how much longer.
  • 00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:56.220
  • I know that we're gonna be doin'
  • 00:38:56.220 --> 00:38:57.150
  • it in June.
  • 00:38:57.150 --> 00:38:58.170
  • I don't think you oughtta just
  • 00:38:58.170 --> 00:38:59.250
  • keep doin', doin', doin', things
  • 00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:01.020
  • out of tradition.
  • 00:39:01.020 --> 00:39:02.240
  • - Serita: Right.
  • 00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:03.160
  • - Bishop Jakes: But we're
  • 00:39:03.160 --> 00:39:04.120
  • calling together thousands of
  • 00:39:04.120 --> 00:39:05.240
  • women and men from around
  • 00:39:05.240 --> 00:39:07.240
  • the world.
  • 00:39:07.240 --> 00:39:08.110
  • We're gonna do our Manpower
  • 00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:09.100
  • for men.
  • 00:39:09.100 --> 00:39:09.290
  • We're gonna do the Woman Thou
  • 00:39:09.290 --> 00:39:11.080
  • Art Loosed for the women.
  • 00:39:11.080 --> 00:39:12.080
  • We're even doin' things--and
  • 00:39:12.080 --> 00:39:13.100
  • what you touched on is so
  • 00:39:13.100 --> 00:39:14.070
  • important.
  • 00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:14.260
  • I don't know whether I feel like
  • 00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:15.220
  • this way because I'm gettin'
  • 00:39:15.220 --> 00:39:16.290
  • old, or what, but we even have
  • 00:39:16.290 --> 00:39:18.200
  • programs for children.
  • 00:39:18.200 --> 00:39:19.220
  • - Serita: We do.
  • 00:39:19.220 --> 00:39:21.010
  • - Bishop Jakes: Because I don't
  • 00:39:21.010 --> 00:39:21.290
  • wanna wait 'til they get broke
  • 00:39:21.290 --> 00:39:23.040
  • and try to fix 'em.
  • 00:39:23.040 --> 00:39:24.000
  • I wanna stop them for the enemy
  • 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:25.170
  • ever gets his hands on 'em.
  • 00:39:25.170 --> 00:39:26.290
  • - Christine: Exactly.
  • 00:39:26.290 --> 00:39:28.290
  • - Bishop Jakes: And so I am
  • 00:39:28.290 --> 00:39:29.270
  • challenging you to bring
  • 00:39:29.270 --> 00:39:31.090
  • your whole family.
  • 00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:32.200
  • Bring your whole family.
  • 00:39:32.200 --> 00:39:34.100
  • There is something.
  • 00:39:34.100 --> 00:39:35.060
  • I know you got a great church.
  • 00:39:35.060 --> 00:39:36.130
  • I know you got a great ministry.
  • 00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:37.090
  • I'm not tryin' to get you to
  • 00:39:37.090 --> 00:39:38.120
  • leave your church.
  • 00:39:38.120 --> 00:39:39.130
  • But all I know is when Jesus
  • 00:39:39.130 --> 00:39:41.190
  • got ready to heal the blind man,
  • 00:39:41.190 --> 00:39:43.000
  • he took him out from where he
  • 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:44.170
  • lived.
  • 00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:45.150
  • Sometimes you've gotta get out
  • 00:39:45.150 --> 00:39:46.200
  • of your environment, away from
  • 00:39:46.200 --> 00:39:48.260
  • where people have defined you.
  • 00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:50.070
  • Do you understand what I'm
  • 00:39:50.070 --> 00:39:51.070
  • talkin' about?
  • 00:39:51.070 --> 00:39:52.030
  • There's something that happens
  • 00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:53.100
  • when you get away, when you get
  • 00:39:53.100 --> 00:39:55.140
  • out of what your life has carved
  • 00:39:55.210 --> 00:39:58.210
  • you into, where a lot of times
  • 00:39:58.210 --> 00:40:00.220
  • you're reacting to how people
  • 00:40:00.220 --> 00:40:02.070
  • treat you and how they expect
  • 00:40:02.070 --> 00:40:04.070
  • you to be.
  • 00:40:04.070 --> 00:40:05.070
  • Sometimes you have to get away.
  • 00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:06.170
  • He took the blind man out of the
  • 00:40:06.170 --> 00:40:08.160
  • city where he could deal with
  • 00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:10.280
  • him and get him healed and
  • 00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.070
  • whole.
  • 00:40:12.070 --> 00:40:13.050
  • And I think it's gonna be
  • 00:40:13.050 --> 00:40:14.000
  • an investment in your soul
  • 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.090
  • and in your spirit.
  • 00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:16.090
  • I'm so excited that you all are
  • 00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:17.140
  • gonna be a part of it.
  • 00:40:17.140 --> 00:40:18.100
  • I'm so excited.
  • 00:40:18.100 --> 00:40:19.210
  • Jackie McCullough's gonna be
  • 00:40:19.210 --> 00:40:20.250
  • a part of it.
  • 00:40:20.250 --> 00:40:21.160
  • Dr. Bill Winston's gonna be
  • 00:40:21.160 --> 00:40:22.190
  • a part of it.
  • 00:40:22.190 --> 00:40:23.140
  • I mean, I'm callin' some of the
  • 00:40:23.140 --> 00:40:25.000
  • greatest voices from around
  • 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:26.030
  • the country to come and be a
  • 00:40:26.030 --> 00:40:28.020
  • part of this meeting because
  • 00:40:28.020 --> 00:40:30.090
  • Our country's in trouble.
  • 00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:34.160
  • Our world is in trouble.
  • 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:36.050
  • I am not lookin' to
  • 00:40:36.050 --> 00:40:37.180
  • the White House.
  • 00:40:37.180 --> 00:40:38.150
  • I never was.
  • 00:40:38.150 --> 00:40:39.060
  • I'm lookin' to the church house.
  • 00:40:39.060 --> 00:40:40.260
  • God said, "If my people, who are
  • 00:40:40.270 --> 00:40:43.270
  • called by my name, shall humble
  • 00:40:43.270 --> 00:40:45.110
  • themselves, and pray, and seek
  • 00:40:45.110 --> 00:40:46.290
  • my face, and turn from their
  • 00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:48.200
  • wicked way;" let me tell ya, God
  • 00:40:48.200 --> 00:40:50.240
  • said, "I will forgive your sins,
  • 00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:52.120
  • and I will heal your country.
  • 00:40:52.120 --> 00:40:54.180
  • I will heal your land.
  • 00:40:54.180 --> 00:40:56.060
  • I will heal your territory.
  • 00:40:56.060 --> 00:40:58.110
  • I will heal every place
  • 00:40:58.110 --> 00:41:00.270
  • your feet trod."
  • 00:41:00.270 --> 00:41:02.100
  • God wants to heal it
  • 00:41:02.100 --> 00:41:03.200
  • and restore it back to you.
  • 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.000
  • I feel like praising God
  • 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:05.270
  • in here.
  • 00:41:05.270 --> 00:41:06.210
  • Anybody feel like praising?
  • 00:41:08.050 --> 00:41:11.050
  • I know you're out there.
  • 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:13.060
  • I know you see the chains,
  • 00:41:13.060 --> 00:41:14.080
  • dealing with young people,
  • 00:41:14.080 --> 00:41:16.010
  • and you're preaching to all,
  • 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:17.090
  • everybody, now.
  • 00:41:17.090 --> 00:41:18.180
  • How important is it for us to
  • 00:41:18.180 --> 00:41:20.200
  • get together and get that kind
  • 00:41:20.200 --> 00:41:22.040
  • of soul-shaking deliverance
  • 00:41:22.040 --> 00:41:24.170
  • that causes us to be free?
  • 00:41:24.170 --> 00:41:26.000
  • I'm not talkin' about
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  • emotionally, because sometimes
  • 00:41:26.220 --> 00:41:28.040
  • the greatest breakthrough
  • 00:41:28.040 --> 00:41:29.160
  • is not the big noise.
  • 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:31.200
  • It's not in the lightning.
  • 00:41:31.200 --> 00:41:33.090
  • It's not always in the thunder.
  • 00:41:33.090 --> 00:41:34.110
  • Sometimes it's in that still,
  • 00:41:34.110 --> 00:41:35.120
  • small, voice, that say--you said
  • 00:41:35.120 --> 00:41:37.150
  • this one time.
  • 00:41:37.150 --> 00:41:39.040
  • I will never forget it as long
  • 00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:39.280
  • as I live.
  • 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:40.190
  • You said it almost 30 years ago
  • 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:42.030
  • in reaction to a situation.
  • 00:41:42.030 --> 00:41:43.130
  • My wife simply said, she's
  • 00:41:43.130 --> 00:41:44.290
  • soft-spoken anyway, she said,
  • 00:41:44.290 --> 00:41:46.190
  • "I'm better than that.
  • 00:41:47.030 --> 00:41:50.030
  • I'm better than that."
  • 00:41:50.030 --> 00:41:50.260
  • That when you know who you are,
  • 00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:53.020
  • it doesn't always have to be a
  • 00:41:53.020 --> 00:41:54.110
  • loud, thunderous, falling out in
  • 00:41:54.110 --> 00:41:56.190
  • the floor.
  • 00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:57.180
  • It's an awakening, a still,
  • 00:41:57.180 --> 00:41:59.120
  • small voice brought Elijah out
  • 00:41:59.120 --> 00:42:01.070
  • of the cave.
  • 00:42:01.070 --> 00:42:01.250
  • What do you think we need to
  • 00:42:01.250 --> 00:42:03.010
  • our racial barriers, all of
  • 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.140
  • that, and just come together,
  • 00:42:07.140 --> 00:42:08.120
  • "If my people," and really get
  • 00:42:08.120 --> 00:42:09.250
  • together?
  • 00:42:09.250 --> 00:42:10.140
  • What happens when we get
  • 00:42:10.140 --> 00:42:11.080
  • together?
  • 00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:11.290
  • - John: I believe that,
  • 00:42:11.290 --> 00:42:12.270
  • you know, the Bible says,
  • 00:42:12.270 --> 00:42:14.020
  • "Where there is unity, the Lord
  • 00:42:14.020 --> 00:42:14.270
  • commands the blessing."
  • 00:42:14.270 --> 00:42:16.100
  • And what there needs
  • 00:42:16.100 --> 00:42:18.290
  • to be is a place of
  • 00:42:18.290 --> 00:42:20.220
  • unity in the body of Christ.
  • 00:42:20.220 --> 00:42:22.050
  • Because we are still divided
  • 00:42:22.050 --> 00:42:23.210
  • and by culture.
  • 00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:27.080
  • And the last year has shown us
  • 00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:28.200
  • that some things that we thought
  • 00:42:28.200 --> 00:42:30.110
  • we were finished with in the
  • 00:42:30.110 --> 00:42:31.170
  • '50s and '60s are still very
  • 00:42:31.170 --> 00:42:33.030
  • much alive.
  • 00:42:33.030 --> 00:42:34.030
  • But here's what the Bible--we
  • 00:42:34.030 --> 00:42:35.160
  • should never be looking to
  • 00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:36.230
  • government for what the Bible
  • 00:42:36.230 --> 00:42:38.020
  • says we, the people of God,
  • 00:42:38.020 --> 00:42:39.150
  • should be doing.
  • 00:42:39.150 --> 00:42:40.220
  • Jesus didn't tell the government
  • 00:42:40.220 --> 00:42:42.030
  • to take care of the poor, and
  • 00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:43.100
  • feed the widow, and take care of
  • 00:42:43.100 --> 00:42:44.250
  • the elderly.
  • 00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:45.290
  • He told the church to do that.
  • 00:42:45.290 --> 00:42:47.190
  • And so it's not for social
  • 00:42:47.190 --> 00:42:49.170
  • service programs from a
  • 00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:51.060
  • government.
  • 00:42:51.060 --> 00:42:51.210
  • It's the body of Christ,
  • 00:42:51.210 --> 00:42:52.130
  • the local church.
  • 00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:53.170
  • Jesus died for the local church.
  • 00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:55.120
  • And I believe that if each
  • 00:42:55.120 --> 00:42:56.250
  • pastor and leader in every local
  • 00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:59.080
  • church would be settled in their
  • 00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:01.080
  • spirit that they are planted
  • 00:43:01.080 --> 00:43:02.090
  • where they're supposed to be and
  • 00:43:02.090 --> 00:43:03.170
  • not try to achieve or attain
  • 00:43:03.170 --> 00:43:05.100
  • something that looks like
  • 00:43:05.100 --> 00:43:06.260
  • success, if each individual
  • 00:43:06.260 --> 00:43:09.030
  • plays their role and is
  • 00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:10.150
  • celebrated--if you got 50, be
  • 00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:12.070
  • faithful to that 50.
  • 00:43:12.070 --> 00:43:13.210
  • Don't covet the guy with a
  • 00:43:13.210 --> 00:43:15.110
  • thousand, 'cause you may not
  • 00:43:15.110 --> 00:43:16.190
  • have oil for the thousand.
  • 00:43:16.190 --> 00:43:17.270
  • "But I got a gift for thousand."
  • 00:43:17.270 --> 00:43:19.170
  • But your gift is not the same as
  • 00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:20.250
  • the anointing.
  • 00:43:20.250 --> 00:43:21.210
  • unify ourselves.
  • 00:43:24.270 --> 00:43:25.210
  • You've been able to build
  • 00:43:25.210 --> 00:43:26.270
  • bridges across the white
  • 00:43:26.270 --> 00:43:28.030
  • evangelical side.
  • 00:43:28.030 --> 00:43:29.050
  • I've been able to cross over
  • 00:43:29.050 --> 00:43:30.120
  • that bridge as well.
  • 00:43:30.120 --> 00:43:31.260
  • The black, the white, the
  • 00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:33.040
  • Hispanic, all of us need to come
  • 00:43:33.040 --> 00:43:34.140
  • together, every branch of the
  • 00:43:34.140 --> 00:43:36.050
  • body of Christ, and we all need
  • 00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:37.240
  • to point to Jesus, 'cause it's,
  • 00:43:37.240 --> 00:43:39.120
  • ain't gonna be no white heaven.
  • 00:43:39.120 --> 00:43:40.160
  • Won't be a black heaven.
  • 00:43:40.160 --> 00:43:41.250
  • Won't be a Hispanic heaven.
  • 00:43:41.250 --> 00:43:43.180
  • There'll be one heaven,
  • 00:43:43.180 --> 00:43:44.250
  • one Savior.
  • 00:43:44.250 --> 00:43:45.290
  • So we've gotta identify the
  • 00:43:45.290 --> 00:43:48.090
  • And that's why I think MegaFest
  • 00:43:50.160 --> 00:43:52.080
  • is so important, because
  • 00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:53.070
  • it's multigenerational
  • 00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:54.230
  • multi-denominational,
  • 00:43:54.230 --> 00:43:56.090
  • multicultural, and it's fun.
  • 00:43:56.090 --> 00:43:58.150
  • This is so important because too
  • 00:43:58.150 --> 00:43:59.200
  • many people are scaring, tryin'
  • 00:43:59.200 --> 00:44:01.030
  • to scare people into Jesus.
  • 00:44:01.030 --> 00:44:02.190
  • "You need to get saved right
  • 00:44:02.190 --> 00:44:03.130
  • now.
  • 00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:04.000
  • You gon' burn in a hot lake if
  • 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.050
  • you don't hurry and get saved!"
  • 00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:07.010
  • Well, I'm scared now.
  • 00:44:07.010 --> 00:44:08.140
  • What I wanna do is get around
  • 00:44:08.140 --> 00:44:09.260
  • some believers that have some
  • 00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:11.020
  • joy.
  • 00:44:11.020 --> 00:44:11.170
  • If the joy of the Lord is our
  • 00:44:11.170 --> 00:44:12.130
  • strength, how come you talkin'
  • 00:44:12.130 --> 00:44:13.270
  • about you saved, but you don't
  • 00:44:13.270 --> 00:44:14.230
  • never smile?
  • 00:44:14.230 --> 00:44:15.230
  • You're never happy.
  • 00:44:15.230 --> 00:44:17.100
  • You never have joy.
  • 00:44:17.100 --> 00:44:18.120
  • Come on out of that house.
  • 00:44:18.120 --> 00:44:19.260
  • Come on down to Dallas.
  • 00:44:19.260 --> 00:44:21.050
  • Let's all get together and let's
  • 00:44:21.050 --> 00:44:22.100
  • eat some food.
  • 00:44:22.100 --> 00:44:23.150
  • I know you on a health kick now.
  • 00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:24.240
  • Let's eat some vegan--
  • 00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:25.250
  • - Bishop Jakes: I'm still
  • 00:44:25.250 --> 00:44:26.140
  • eatin'.
  • 00:44:26.140 --> 00:44:27.030
  • - John: Well, you know, you
  • 00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:27.230
  • know, eat some fried chicken,
  • 00:44:27.230 --> 00:44:29.100
  • one piece, just one piece,
  • 00:44:29.100 --> 00:44:30.160
  • Jesus.
  • 00:44:30.160 --> 00:44:31.090
  • I need one piece.
  • 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:33.060
  • And let me tell ya,
  • 00:44:33.060 --> 00:44:34.080
  • when she was talkin' about the
  • 00:44:34.080 --> 00:44:35.150
  • power of acknowledgment, the
  • 00:44:35.150 --> 00:44:36.220
  • doctor told me I had diabetes.
  • 00:44:36.220 --> 00:44:38.100
  • I tried to do the Jesus thing.
  • 00:44:38.100 --> 00:44:39.120
  • I said, "I bind that.
  • 00:44:39.120 --> 00:44:40.140
  • I bind diabetes."
  • 00:44:40.140 --> 00:44:41.160
  • Jesus was like,
  • 00:44:41.160 --> 00:44:42.110
  • "No you don't, 'cause you
  • 00:44:42.110 --> 00:44:43.000
  • gonna go eat a pork chop right
  • 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.070
  • after you leave."
  • 00:44:44.070 --> 00:44:45.170
  • - Bishop Jakes: Right, right
  • 00:44:45.170 --> 00:44:46.130
  • right.
  • 00:44:46.130 --> 00:44:47.000
  • - John: "Don't be talkin' about
  • 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:47.220
  • you got delivered, but you gon'
  • 00:44:47.220 --> 00:44:48.140
  • do the thing that got you the
  • 00:44:48.140 --> 00:44:49.050
  • diabetes."
  • 00:44:49.050 --> 00:44:50.030
  • - Bishop Jakes: Right, right,
  • 00:44:50.030 --> 00:44:50.240
  • right, right, right, right,
  • 00:44:50.240 --> 00:44:51.140
  • right, right.
  • 00:44:51.140 --> 00:44:52.040
  • - John: See, sometimes the
  • 00:44:52.040 --> 00:44:52.250
  • greatest miracles is not needing
  • 00:44:52.250 --> 00:44:53.200
  • one at all, and getting around
  • 00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:54.190
  • other believers who will help
  • 00:44:54.190 --> 00:44:56.060
  • you to find and do a different
  • 00:44:56.060 --> 00:44:58.140
  • path, choose a different way of
  • 00:44:58.140 --> 00:45:00.090
  • living.
  • 00:45:00.090 --> 00:45:01.030
  • What MegaFest does is it
  • 00:45:01.030 --> 00:45:02.170
  • connects us in our shared
  • 00:45:02.170 --> 00:45:04.110
  • humanity, and we get to worship
  • 00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:06.100
  • together.
  • 00:45:06.100 --> 00:45:07.040
  • I get to meet brothers
  • 00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:08.070
  • from all over the world.
  • 00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:09.110
  • I ain't gonna be in Woman Thou
  • 00:45:09.110 --> 00:45:10.180
  • Art Loosed.
  • 00:45:10.180 --> 00:45:11.110
  • Ain't gonna be no room for
  • 00:45:11.110 --> 00:45:12.010
  • the fellas in there with y'all.
  • 00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:13.060
  • Right?
  • 00:45:13.060 --> 00:45:14.060
  • You know I'm 'a be in there with
  • 00:45:14.060 --> 00:45:14.280
  • Manpower, and we gonna be
  • 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:15.190
  • celebratin' God.
  • 00:45:15.190 --> 00:45:17.130
  • And that's what we need, a place
  • 00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:18.180
  • of uniformity where we can
  • 00:45:18.180 --> 00:45:21.020
  • worship God and we can lay down
  • 00:45:21.020 --> 00:45:23.050
  • all of the stuff that we've been
  • 00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:24.160
  • carryin'.
  • 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:25.090
  • Because there's a lot on us,
  • 00:45:25.090 --> 00:45:26.180
  • Bishop, and nobody is really
  • 00:45:26.180 --> 00:45:28.120
  • talkin' about that.
  • 00:45:28.120 --> 00:45:29.270
  • There's a lot we need to lay
  • 00:45:29.270 --> 00:45:31.030
  • down.
  • 00:45:31.030 --> 00:45:31.230
  • So I need to shout a little bit.
  • 00:45:31.230 --> 00:45:33.240
  • I need to worship a little bit.
  • 00:45:33.240 --> 00:45:35.060
  • Need to stay up late and sit out
  • 00:45:35.060 --> 00:45:36.210
  • in the lobby and talk to some
  • 00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:37.170
  • And so that's how we do
  • 00:45:39.190 --> 00:45:41.060
  • the exchange of ideas.
  • 00:45:41.060 --> 00:45:42.140
  • That's what I think needs to
  • 00:45:42.140 --> 00:45:44.110
  • happen, and it needs to happen
  • 00:45:44.110 --> 00:45:45.110
  • across the entire body of
  • 00:45:45.110 --> 00:45:46.110
  • Christ.
  • 00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:46.260
  • - Bishop Jakes: You're
  • 00:45:46.260 --> 00:45:47.140
  • absolutely right.
  • 00:45:47.140 --> 00:45:48.000
  • about this particular meeting,
  • 00:45:50.060 --> 00:45:51.110
  • there are a lot of great meeting
  • 00:45:51.110 --> 00:45:52.230
  • going on, great denominational
  • 00:45:52.230 --> 00:45:54.010
  • meetings, you know?
  • 00:45:54.010 --> 00:45:55.080
  • And you make your report, and
  • 00:45:55.080 --> 00:45:56.140
  • you pay your dues, and the
  • 00:45:56.140 --> 00:45:57.200
  • district council elder comes and
  • 00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:59.260
  • all of--that's great.
  • 00:45:59.260 --> 00:46:01.060
  • Nothin' wrong with that.
  • 00:46:01.060 --> 00:46:02.150
  • After a while, you're coming
  • 00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:04.260
  • 'cause you have to and your
  • 00:46:04.260 --> 00:46:06.010
  • comin' 'cause you gotta make
  • 00:46:06.010 --> 00:46:06.220
  • a report, and you're comin'
  • 00:46:06.220 --> 00:46:07.170
  • because our district is singin',
  • 00:46:07.170 --> 00:46:08.290
  • and you're comin' because
  • 00:46:08.290 --> 00:46:09.180
  • so-and-so is goin' on.
  • 00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:10.200
  • This is somethin' nobody has to
  • 00:46:10.200 --> 00:46:12.160
  • come to.
  • 00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:13.190
  • There's no reports to be made.
  • 00:46:13.190 --> 00:46:15.010
  • It's not any obligation.
  • 00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:16.250
  • There's no eastern
  • 00:46:16.250 --> 00:46:17.260
  • jurisdictional council,
  • 00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:19.120
  • anything.
  • 00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:20.040
  • What makes that special is that
  • 00:46:20.040 --> 00:46:22.200
  • everybody who comes there is
  • 00:46:22.200 --> 00:46:24.230
  • just somebody who wants to be
  • 00:46:24.230 --> 00:46:25.250
  • there.
  • 00:46:25.250 --> 00:46:26.280
  • - John: That's great.
  • 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:27.150
  • - Bishop Jakes: And when people
  • 00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:28.090
  • come into a place because they
  • 00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:29.060
  • want to, it's totally different
  • 00:46:29.060 --> 00:46:32.010
  • than people comin' 'cause
  • 00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:33.010
  • they're supposed to or they
  • 00:46:33.010 --> 00:46:34.170
  • have to.
  • 00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:35.140
  • They just want to be there and
  • 00:46:35.140 --> 00:46:36.270
  • choose to be there.
  • 00:46:36.270 --> 00:46:37.280
  • Forty different nations
  • 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.000
  • generally represented from all
  • 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.020
  • over the world.
  • 00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:41.030
  • Translation systems, we're
  • 00:46:41.030 --> 00:46:42.140
  • prepared to translate into your
  • 00:46:42.140 --> 00:46:43.250
  • language.
  • 00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:44.260
  • If you speak Spanish, we got
  • 00:46:44.260 --> 00:46:46.030
  • you.
  • 00:46:46.030 --> 00:46:46.230
  • If you're hearing impaired, we
  • 00:46:46.230 --> 00:46:48.100
  • got you.
  • 00:46:48.100 --> 00:46:49.160
  • You need sign language, we have
  • 00:46:49.160 --> 00:46:50.130
  • got you.
  • 00:46:50.130 --> 00:46:51.120
  • If you speak Portuguese, we've
  • 00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:52.230
  • got you.
  • 00:46:52.230 --> 00:46:53.220
  • Even as fast as I talk, they
  • 00:46:53.220 --> 00:46:56.050
  • translate it.
  • 00:46:56.050 --> 00:46:57.110
  • I don't know how they do it.
  • 00:46:57.110 --> 00:46:58.280
  • I don't know how they do it.
  • 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.070
  • Tongue, thou art loosed.
  • 00:47:01.070 --> 00:47:02.150
  • She's up here doin' it right
  • 00:47:02.150 --> 00:47:03.110
  • now.
  • 00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:04.010
  • Tongue, thou art loosed.
  • 00:47:04.010 --> 00:47:05.080
  • But they keep up with you so
  • 00:47:05.080 --> 00:47:07.040
  • that you can--because we've got
  • 00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:08.180
  • to give the gospel without
  • 00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:09.250
  • discrimination today, to
  • 00:47:09.250 --> 00:47:11.120
  • everybody, to everybody, to the
  • 00:47:11.150 --> 00:47:14.150
  • men, to the women, to the kids.
  • 00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:16.120
  • 'Cause sometimes, you know,
  • 00:47:16.120 --> 00:47:18.110
  • people, you talk about financial
  • 00:47:18.110 --> 00:47:19.080
  • blessings and success, and how
  • 00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:20.200
  • people define success, when your
  • 00:47:20.200 --> 00:47:21.240
  • child is in trouble, pshew,
  • 00:47:21.240 --> 00:47:23.290
  • no amount of money--
  • 00:47:23.290 --> 00:47:25.230
  • - John: That's right.
  • 00:47:25.230 --> 00:47:26.110
  • - Bishop Jakes: No amount of
  • 00:47:26.110 --> 00:47:27.090
  • money compares to gettin' your
  • 00:47:27.090 --> 00:47:28.150
  • son out of trouble, your
  • 00:47:28.150 --> 00:47:29.150
  • daughter out of trouble,
  • 00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:30.200
  • seein' them set free.
  • 00:47:30.200 --> 00:47:31.170
  • And please, parents, if you're
  • 00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.040
  • listenin' out there to me today,
  • 00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:35.050
  • I'll take 'em after their
  • 00:47:35.050 --> 00:47:36.090
  • broken.
  • 00:47:36.090 --> 00:47:36.290
  • I will go visit 'em in jail.
  • 00:47:36.290 --> 00:47:38.090
  • We've got a prison ministry.
  • 00:47:38.090 --> 00:47:39.190
  • We've taken 10.000 inmates
  • 00:47:39.190 --> 00:47:41.020
  • through our program, our Texas
  • 00:47:41.020 --> 00:47:42.210
  • Offenders Reentry Initiative.
  • 00:47:42.210 --> 00:47:44.060
  • But Lord have mercy, I would
  • 00:47:44.060 --> 00:47:45.180
  • love to have a chance at 'em
  • 00:47:45.180 --> 00:47:46.250
  • before they went to jail.
  • 00:47:46.250 --> 00:47:48.040
  • - John: C'mon!
  • 00:47:48.040 --> 00:47:49.010
  • - Bishop Jakes: Can I have 'em
  • 00:47:49.010 --> 00:47:50.160
  • before they went to jail?
  • 00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:51.240
  • Can I please have 'em when
  • 00:47:51.240 --> 00:47:53.220
  • they're kids, when they're 12,
  • 00:47:53.220 --> 00:47:55.150
  • when they're 15?
  • 00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:56.260
  • Can I get 'em before the enemy
  • 00:47:56.260 --> 00:47:58.160
  • has choked the very life out of
  • 00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:00.190
  • them?
  • 00:48:00.190 --> 00:48:01.120
  • - John: But this is the
  • 00:48:01.120 --> 00:48:02.000
  • problem, I think, we see with
  • 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.010
  • contemporary Western culture and
  • 00:48:03.010 --> 00:48:04.180
  • parenting, where they've made
  • 00:48:04.180 --> 00:48:06.140
  • church optional for this
  • 00:48:06.140 --> 00:48:08.030
  • generation.
  • 00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:09.150
  • When I was growin' up, wasn't
  • 00:48:09.150 --> 00:48:10.220
  • not option.
  • 00:48:10.220 --> 00:48:11.240
  • I wish I would say, "I don't
  • 00:48:11.240 --> 00:48:13.000
  • feel like goin' to church
  • 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:14.000
  • today."
  • 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:14.290
  • It couldn't have even
  • 00:48:14.290 --> 00:48:15.270
  • come out of my mouth.
  • 00:48:15.270 --> 00:48:17.020
  • My lips would have been gone.
  • 00:48:17.020 --> 00:48:18.140
  • - Bishop Jakes: Right, right,
  • 00:48:18.140 --> 00:48:19.060
  • right, right.
  • 00:48:19.060 --> 00:48:19.260
  • - John: That's number one.
  • 00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:21.230
  • - Serita: Number one.
  • 00:48:21.230 --> 00:48:23.010
  • - John: But we don't make
  • 00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:23.230
  • education optional, but you
  • 00:48:23.230 --> 00:48:24.240
  • gonna let your kids play video
  • 00:48:24.240 --> 00:48:25.170
  • games on Sunday while you go to
  • 00:48:25.170 --> 00:48:27.090
  • church and then wonder why they
  • 00:48:27.090 --> 00:48:28.190
  • disrespect you?
  • 00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:29.220
  • You pass on cultural stuff about
  • 00:48:29.220 --> 00:48:31.190
  • your family, but you don't pass
  • 00:48:31.190 --> 00:48:32.280
  • on your faith?
  • 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.170
  • What's happening, where we are
  • 00:48:34.170 --> 00:48:36.030
  • allowing a generation to raise
  • 00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:37.280
  • themselves, or TV to raise them,
  • 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.000
  • or video games to raise them,
  • 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:41.240
  • but we're not making a concerted
  • 00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:43.190
  • effort to feed their souls.
  • 00:48:43.190 --> 00:48:45.180
  • According to the latest
  • 00:48:45.180 --> 00:48:46.150
  • Pew Research polls, this is the
  • 00:48:46.150 --> 00:48:48.210
  • first generation that there will
  • 00:48:48.210 --> 00:48:50.050
  • be less believers than more.
  • 00:48:50.050 --> 00:48:52.200
  • Less.
  • 00:48:52.200 --> 00:48:54.050
  • And is that okay with us?
  • 00:48:54.050 --> 00:48:55.120
  • No, it's not okay with me.
  • 00:48:55.120 --> 00:48:56.280
  • My kids, my wife's like, "Baby,
  • 00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.040
  • you might wanna calm down.
  • 00:48:59.040 --> 00:49:00.120
  • They're only 4 and 3."
  • 00:49:00.120 --> 00:49:01.090
  • I was like,
  • 00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:02.040
  • "Lift your hands right now.
  • 00:49:02.040 --> 00:49:03.110
  • Turn off Mickey.
  • 00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:04.240
  • Mickey can't save you.
  • 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:06.060
  • Yeah, he can't save you.
  • 00:49:06.060 --> 00:49:07.190
  • You know, Doc McStuffins
  • 00:49:07.190 --> 00:49:08.270
  • can't save you.
  • 00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:09.260
  • Open your mouth.
  • 00:49:09.260 --> 00:49:10.280
  • [speaking in tongues]
  • 00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:11.230
  • C'mon, hey!"
  • 00:49:11.230 --> 00:49:13.140
  • You know?
  • 00:49:13.140 --> 00:49:14.190
  • And it's like we've got to
  • 00:49:14.190 --> 00:49:15.290
  • instill that passion.
  • 00:49:15.290 --> 00:49:17.230
  • And this is the thing about
  • 00:49:17.230 --> 00:49:19.030
  • MegaFest.
  • 00:49:19.030 --> 00:49:19.240
  • My wife is my witness.
  • 00:49:19.240 --> 00:49:20.250
  • When we walked into the hotel,
  • 00:49:20.250 --> 00:49:21.270
  • you could feel the expectation.
  • 00:49:21.270 --> 00:49:23.120
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yeah, yeah,
  • 00:49:23.120 --> 00:49:24.050
  • yeah.
  • 00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:24.210
  • - John: There's a difference
  • 00:49:24.210 --> 00:49:25.120
  • between obligation and
  • 00:49:25.120 --> 00:49:26.080
  • expectation.
  • 00:49:26.080 --> 00:49:27.160
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:49:27.160 --> 00:49:28.080
  • - John: When you're obligated,
  • 00:49:28.080 --> 00:49:29.080
  • you're like, "I got to go." But
  • 00:49:29.080 --> 00:49:30.050
  • expectation is, "I get to go.
  • 00:49:30.050 --> 00:49:32.070
  • I get to get to Dallas.
  • 00:49:32.070 --> 00:49:33.210
  • This is gonna be somethin' for
  • 00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:34.230
  • me," and the whole program for
  • 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.280
  • the kids, and I love that, and
  • 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.080
  • there's a whole lotta programs
  • 00:49:39.080 --> 00:49:40.180
  • for the little kids, MegaKidz.
  • 00:49:40.180 --> 00:49:42.080
  • And there's a lotta security,
  • 00:49:42.080 --> 00:49:44.070
  • and I love that as a parent.
  • 00:49:44.070 --> 00:49:45.280
  • - Bishop Jakes: Absolutely.
  • 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:46.210
  • - John: 'Cause I love your
  • 00:49:46.210 --> 00:49:47.110
  • security 'cause they look like
  • 00:49:47.110 --> 00:49:48.200
  • they halfway saved.
  • 00:49:48.200 --> 00:49:49.210
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yeah, we don't
  • 00:49:49.210 --> 00:49:50.140
  • play about your kids.
  • 00:49:50.140 --> 00:49:51.190
  • - John: Yeah.
  • 00:49:51.190 --> 00:49:52.040
  • Security's like halfway saved.
  • 00:49:52.040 --> 00:49:52.250
  • They're like, "Yeah, don't come
  • 00:49:52.250 --> 00:49:53.220
  • in here playin'."
  • 00:49:53.220 --> 00:49:55.010
  • You wanna be
  • 00:49:55.010 --> 00:49:55.210
  • in a safe environment?
  • 00:49:55.210 --> 00:49:56.180
  • The kids are safe.
  • 00:49:56.180 --> 00:49:57.160
  • They got their ministry.
  • 00:49:57.160 --> 00:49:59.040
  • Second Amendment ministry, amen.
  • 00:49:59.040 --> 00:50:01.080
  • - Bishop Jakes: Glory--this is
  • 00:50:01.080 --> 00:50:02.170
  • Texas, baby!
  • 00:50:02.170 --> 00:50:05.050
  • - John: And so you can feel
  • 00:50:05.050 --> 00:50:06.170
  • safe, knowin' that your kids are
  • 00:50:06.170 --> 00:50:07.180
  • covered.
  • 00:50:07.180 --> 00:50:08.080
  • While you gettin' free, the kids
  • 00:50:08.080 --> 00:50:09.150
  • are gettin' fed.
  • 00:50:09.150 --> 00:50:10.220
  • And I think that's important.
  • 00:50:10.220 --> 00:50:12.030
  • And that's somethin' that needs
  • 00:50:12.030 --> 00:50:13.170
  • to happen in every church.
  • 00:50:13.170 --> 00:50:14.100
  • We gotta invest
  • 00:50:14.100 --> 00:50:15.020
  • - Serita: Talking about
  • 00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:18.050
  • the millennials that are
  • 00:50:18.050 --> 00:50:18.290
  • gonna be coming from all over
  • 00:50:18.290 --> 00:50:20.050
  • the world, and that age group
  • 00:50:20.050 --> 00:50:21.190
  • where they're just beginning to
  • 00:50:21.190 --> 00:50:22.290
  • parent, or just beginning their
  • 00:50:22.290 --> 00:50:24.100
  • career paths, we have ministry
  • 00:50:24.100 --> 00:50:26.080
  • for them as well, where you can
  • 00:50:26.080 --> 00:50:28.040
  • take your kids and be around
  • 00:50:28.040 --> 00:50:30.020
  • other couples that are your age
  • 00:50:30.020 --> 00:50:32.200
  • and learn more about what they
  • 00:50:32.200 --> 00:50:34.260
  • do, how they do it, how they get
  • 00:50:34.260 --> 00:50:37.050
  • along, about their church life,
  • 00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:38.130
  • yes.
  • 00:50:38.130 --> 00:50:39.090
  • But their natural life.
  • 00:50:39.090 --> 00:50:40.280
  • How do you combat infidelity
  • 00:50:40.290 --> 00:50:43.290
  • in your marriage?
  • 00:50:43.290 --> 00:50:45.090
  • How do you combat when you
  • 00:50:45.090 --> 00:50:46.090
  • don't know exactly what to do,
  • 00:50:46.090 --> 00:50:48.070
  • when you've lost your job?
  • 00:50:48.070 --> 00:50:49.100
  • I mean, it's just amazing.
  • 00:50:49.100 --> 00:50:51.170
  • It's such a family affair.
  • 00:50:51.170 --> 00:50:53.120
  • I love it.
  • 00:50:53.120 --> 00:50:54.010
  • I'm all over the place.
  • 00:50:54.010 --> 00:50:54.280
  • I'm a kid one day.
  • 00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:56.160
  • And then I'm with the women
  • 00:50:56.160 --> 00:50:57.170
  • one day.
  • 00:50:57.170 --> 00:50:58.150
  • And then I sneak--no I don't.
  • 00:50:58.150 --> 00:51:00.270
  • - John: Sneak over to the
  • 00:51:00.270 --> 00:51:01.160
  • Manpower--
  • 00:51:01.160 --> 00:51:02.060
  • - Serita: No.
  • 00:51:02.060 --> 00:51:02.230
  • - Bishop Jakes: Have you been
  • 00:51:02.230 --> 00:51:03.140
  • eavesdroppin' on us?
  • 00:51:03.140 --> 00:51:04.000
  • - John: You went over there--
  • 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:04.210
  • - Bishop Jakes: Tell the truth.
  • 00:51:04.210 --> 00:51:05.130
  • - John: Snoopy.
  • 00:51:05.130 --> 00:51:06.010
  • - Bishop Jakes: Yeah, right,
  • 00:51:06.010 --> 00:51:06.290
  • right, right, right, right.
  • 00:51:06.290 --> 00:51:08.050
  • You know something?
  • 00:51:08.050 --> 00:51:09.080
  • like you've never seen before.
  • 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.240
  • And a lot of that pressure is
  • 00:51:14.240 --> 00:51:16.250
  • trapped behind the disguise of
  • 00:51:17.210 --> 00:51:20.210
  • a smile and congeniality.
  • 00:51:20.260 --> 00:51:23.260
  • Like, I was watchin' the news
  • 00:51:23.260 --> 00:51:26.000
  • today and a lady on the news was
  • 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:27.160
  • talkin about, "He gave me a card
  • 00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:30.250
  • and then asked for a divorce."
  • 00:51:30.250 --> 00:51:33.080
  • Look at the difference between
  • 00:51:33.080 --> 00:51:35.060
  • who we pretend to be and where
  • 00:51:35.060 --> 00:51:37.220
  • we are really at, okay?
  • 00:51:37.220 --> 00:51:40.060
  • And my wife and I were talkin'
  • 00:51:40.060 --> 00:51:42.070
  • about men are the best
  • 00:51:42.070 --> 00:51:43.190
  • disguisers of pain in the world
  • 00:51:43.190 --> 00:51:46.130
  • because we were taught all of
  • 00:51:46.130 --> 00:51:47.230
  • our lives, "Be a man.
  • 00:51:47.230 --> 00:51:49.090
  • Don't cry.
  • 00:51:49.090 --> 00:51:50.040
  • Stand up.
  • 00:51:50.040 --> 00:51:50.220
  • You can take it.
  • 00:51:50.220 --> 00:51:51.110
  • Nothin' wrong with ya."
  • 00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:52.180
  • I just got to talk with one of
  • 00:51:52.180 --> 00:51:53.240
  • my elders who lost his mother.
  • 00:51:53.240 --> 00:51:55.100
  • I said, "Cry."
  • 00:51:55.100 --> 00:51:56.150
  • We were talkin',
  • 00:51:56.150 --> 00:51:57.120
  • "Pastor, I'm tryin' to be
  • 00:51:57.120 --> 00:51:58.030
  • strong." I said,
  • 00:51:58.030 --> 00:51:58.220
  • "Don't be strong.
  • 00:51:58.220 --> 00:51:59.070
  • Cry, holler, scream, yell,
  • 00:51:59.070 --> 00:52:01.250
  • do whatever you wanna do.
  • 00:52:01.250 --> 00:52:03.050
  • Roll around in the floor.
  • 00:52:03.050 --> 00:52:04.170
  • You do not have to be imprisoned
  • 00:52:04.170 --> 00:52:06.140
  • just because you're a man.
  • 00:52:06.140 --> 00:52:08.040
  • That's when it comes out
  • 00:52:08.040 --> 00:52:09.060
  • as anger and rage
  • 00:52:09.060 --> 00:52:10.280
  • and domestic violence and abuse.
  • 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.290
  • I'd much rather you cry than
  • 00:52:12.290 --> 00:52:14.200
  • take a gun and shoot up
  • 00:52:14.200 --> 00:52:15.230
  • everybody in the post office.
  • 00:52:15.230 --> 00:52:17.120
  • Cry.
  • 00:52:17.120 --> 00:52:18.080
  • It's okay.
  • 00:52:18.080 --> 00:52:18.280
  • Jesus wept.
  • 00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:21.110
  • Jesus wept.
  • 00:52:21.110 --> 00:52:22.220
  • David danced, danced."
  • 00:52:22.220 --> 00:52:25.010
  • We've gotta set people free.
  • 00:52:25.010 --> 00:52:26.200
  • We gotta set people free.
  • 00:52:26.200 --> 00:52:28.140
  • We gotta set people free and
  • 00:52:29.070 --> 00:52:32.070
  • make it okay for you to be
  • 00:52:32.070 --> 00:52:33.130
  • yourself, make it okay
  • 00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:36.100
  • for you to be yourself.
  • 00:52:36.100 --> 00:52:37.030
  • I said, "I'll respect you in the
  • 00:52:37.030 --> 00:52:38.020
  • morning.
  • 00:52:38.020 --> 00:52:38.220
  • You can still be an elder.
  • 00:52:38.220 --> 00:52:39.220
  • You can still lay hands on
  • 00:52:39.220 --> 00:52:40.140
  • people.
  • 00:52:40.140 --> 00:52:41.070
  • It doesn't take away from your
  • 00:52:41.070 --> 00:52:42.000
  • You get to be hurt too."
  • 00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:45.210
  • This is very, very important.
  • 00:52:45.210 --> 00:52:48.090
  • We have got to, now, more than
  • 00:52:48.090 --> 00:52:49.260
  • ever, because of the pressure
  • 00:52:49.260 --> 00:52:51.050
  • we're dealing with today,
  • 00:52:51.050 --> 00:52:52.110
  • we've gotta--
  • 00:52:52.110 --> 00:52:53.130
  • what we're all saying in our
  • 00:52:53.130 --> 00:52:54.280
  • own way is that the disguise
  • 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.100
  • must be shattered.
  • 00:52:57.100 --> 00:52:59.080
  • - Christine: That's good.
  • 00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:00.120
  • - Bishop Jakes: Your ointment,
  • 00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:02.290
  • the precious spikenard of who
  • 00:53:02.290 --> 00:53:05.050
  • you are, is shut up behind that
  • 00:53:05.050 --> 00:53:07.080
  • alabaster box.
  • 00:53:07.080 --> 00:53:09.040
  • And like the woman who came to
  • 00:53:09.040 --> 00:53:10.120
  • Jesus and broke the alabaster
  • 00:53:10.120 --> 00:53:12.220
  • box, she knew the best stuff
  • 00:53:12.220 --> 00:53:14.220
  • was on the inside,
  • 00:53:14.220 --> 00:53:16.090
  • not on the outside.
  • 00:53:16.090 --> 00:53:17.290
  • It's on the inside.
  • 00:53:17.290 --> 00:53:19.170
  • And she didn't just
  • 00:53:19.170 --> 00:53:20.160
  • open the box.
  • 00:53:20.160 --> 00:53:21.280
  • She shattered it.
  • 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.130
  • And when she shattered it,
  • 00:53:23.130 --> 00:53:25.240
  • the Bible says that the ointment
  • 00:53:25.240 --> 00:53:28.090
  • fell on the feet of Jesus.
  • 00:53:28.090 --> 00:53:30.010
  • The aroma filled the room.
  • 00:53:30.010 --> 00:53:31.170
  • You know what that really means?
  • 00:53:31.170 --> 00:53:33.050
  • When you shatter your outside,
  • 00:53:33.050 --> 00:53:35.060
  • you become effective.
  • 00:53:35.060 --> 00:53:37.280
  • You become effective.
  • 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.080
  • really is.
  • 00:53:42.100 --> 00:53:44.040
  • It's not about money.
  • 00:53:44.040 --> 00:53:45.030
  • It's not about degrees.
  • 00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:46.040
  • It's not about houses.
  • 00:53:46.040 --> 00:53:47.050
  • It's not about boats or yachts
  • 00:53:47.050 --> 00:53:48.120
  • or anything else.
  • 00:53:48.120 --> 00:53:50.020
  • It's about being effective.
  • 00:53:50.020 --> 00:53:52.180
  • Lord, make me an effective
  • 00:53:52.180 --> 00:53:53.250
  • father.
  • 00:53:53.250 --> 00:53:54.200
  • Make me an effective husband.
  • 00:53:54.200 --> 00:53:56.080
  • Make me an effective woman.
  • 00:53:56.080 --> 00:53:57.240
  • Make me an effective wife.
  • 00:53:57.240 --> 00:53:58.270
  • Make me an effective teacher.
  • 00:53:58.270 --> 00:54:00.200
  • Make me an effective preacher.
  • 00:54:00.200 --> 00:54:01.210
  • Whatever you are,
  • 00:54:01.210 --> 00:54:02.130
  • you want to be effective.
  • 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.280
  • Isn't that true?
  • 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.230
  • - Christine: That's so true.
  • 00:54:07.230 --> 00:54:08.190
  • - Bishop Jakes: If the salt has
  • 00:54:08.190 --> 00:54:09.250
  • lost its savor, what is it?
  • 00:54:11.090 --> 00:54:14.090
  • All up in the box and lookin'
  • 00:54:14.090 --> 00:54:16.210
  • all good, but you can't
  • 00:54:16.210 --> 00:54:18.070
  • taste anything?
  • 00:54:18.070 --> 00:54:20.220
  • - Christine: Well, we're
  • 00:54:20.220 --> 00:54:21.120
  • designed to be effective.
  • 00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:22.240
  • - Bishop Jakes: Say that again.
  • 00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:23.160
  • - Christine: We're designed to
  • 00:54:23.160 --> 00:54:24.080
  • be effective.
  • 00:54:24.080 --> 00:54:24.270
  • - Bishop Jakes: We're designed
  • 00:54:24.270 --> 00:54:25.190
  • to be effective.
  • 00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:26.030
  • - Christine: Our brain is
  • 00:54:26.030 --> 00:54:26.220
  • designed to be addicted to God.
  • 00:54:26.220 --> 00:54:27.270
  • "Addiction" is a good word.
  • 00:54:27.270 --> 00:54:29.060
  • But when we aren't addicted to
  • 00:54:29.060 --> 00:54:30.200
  • God, and consumed by God, and
  • 00:54:30.200 --> 00:54:32.090
  • as unique individuals,
  • 00:54:35.020 --> 00:54:37.040
  • then we're gonna be broken.
  • 00:54:37.040 --> 00:54:38.050
  • And that's why we have to
  • 00:54:38.050 --> 00:54:38.240
  • shatter that.
  • 00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:39.100
  • Because science actually shows
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  • that there's something that you
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  • can do that no one else can do.
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  • There is no need for jealousy
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  • and envy because there's only
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  • one of you.
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  • You are only one of a kind.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Absolutely.
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  • - Christine: And as you
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  • celebrate others, research also
  • 00:54:50.080 --> 00:54:51.000
  • shows you enhance your own brain
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  • health, your own intelligence,
  • 00:54:52.040 --> 00:54:53.250
  • your own physical health.
  • 00:54:53.250 --> 00:54:55.050
  • So when you celebrate--and
  • 00:54:55.050 --> 00:54:56.060
  • listening to all of you saying
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  • the most phenomenal things.
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  • The biggest problem in the world
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  • today, and you knew this,
  • 00:55:01.270 --> 00:55:03.090
  • Bishop, was self-esteem.
  • 00:55:03.090 --> 00:55:04.250
  • People have lost self-esteem.
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  • And that comes from the loss of
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  • identity, and the loss of the
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  • recognition that you can do
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  • something that no one else
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  • can do.
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  • And that's--when you recognize
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  • and very powerful.
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  • You stick in your love zone.
  • 00:55:16.020 --> 00:55:17.110
  • You actually activate your brain
  • 00:55:17.110 --> 00:55:18.280
  • and it operates like it's
  • 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:19.260
  • supposed to do.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: Right.
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  • - Serita: The love zone.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: I love that.
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  • - Christine: And then you
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  • function effectively.
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  • - Serita: That's a song--
  • 00:55:24.040 --> 00:55:25.000
  • - Christine: Then you function
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  • effectively.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: You know,
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  • the thing, when you were talking
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  • about being in that love zone
  • 00:55:28.170 --> 00:55:29.270
  • addicted to God in a positive
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  • addiction, once I finally
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  • shattered my religion--
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  • - Christine: That's it, yeah.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: I found
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  • relationship.
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  • - Christine: That's good
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  • - John: Yeah.
  • 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:49.170
  • - Bishop Jakes: I found
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  • relationship
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  • - John: Yeah.
  • 00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:52.030
  • - Bishop Jakes: I cannot
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  • explain this to save my life.
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  • I've been preaching 40 years.
  • 00:55:55.010 --> 00:55:56.040
  • I still can't explain it.
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  • But he loves me.
  • 00:55:58.040 --> 00:56:00.180
  • He thinks I'm cool.
  • 00:56:00.180 --> 00:56:03.040
  • He wants to hang out with me.
  • 00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:05.200
  • He wants me to hang out
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  • with him.
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  • How can a God like him love
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  • a guy like me?
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  • It's just mind boggling,
  • 00:56:12.120 --> 00:56:14.010
  • but he's in love with me.
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  • He knows all about it.
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  • He's counted every hair.
  • 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.180
  • I don't have none on my head.
  • 00:56:19.180 --> 00:56:20.260
  • But he got the ones on my beard.
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  • - Serita: That he does.
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  • - Bishop Jakes: He knows
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  • the sound of my voice.
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  • He's fascinated.
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  • In a room of people, he can hear
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  • me every time I lift my voice.
  • 00:56:29.120 --> 00:56:31.210
  • He can hear you like that too.
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  • Let's, I wish we had more time.
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  • We got so much more to do, but
  • 00:56:36.160 --> 00:56:38.080
  • we're praying for you, and we're
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  • believing God that the best will
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  • break forth in your life and
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  • that you'll be healed and that
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  • you'll be set free.
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  • Go with God, and God will go
  • 00:56:46.030 --> 00:56:48.070
  • with you and touch your life.
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  • Give him praise as we go.
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  • God said we could do this
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  • all day.
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  • We love you.
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  • Go in peace.
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  • The Lord is with you.
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  • - John: And see ya in Dallas.
  • 00:57:02.230 --> 00:57:04.240
  • - Bishop Jakes: The Lord
  • 00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:05.130
  • is with ya.
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  • I will see you
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  • in Dallas at MegaFest.
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  • in Dallas at MegaFest.
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