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Matt and Laurie Crouch host Jon Tyson from New York; NY.

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHTON "PRAISE,"
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  • ON "PRAISE,"FROM NEW YORK CITY,
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  • FROM NEW YORK CITY,CHURCH OF THE CITY
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  • CHURCH OF THE CITYLEAD PASTOR AND AUTHOR,
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  • LEAD PASTOR AND AUTHOR,JON TYSON.
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  • JON TYSON.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]- ANNOUNCER: AND NOW
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  • - ANNOUNCER: AND NOWMATT AND LAURIE CROUCH.
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  • MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH.- MATT CROUCH: WELCOME TO
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WELCOME TO"PRAISE," RIGHT HERE IN
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  • "PRAISE," RIGHT HERE INNEW YORK CITY.
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  • NEW YORK CITY.- LAURIE CROUCH: YES.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: YES.- MATT: WE ARE KIND OF
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  • - MATT: WE ARE KIND OFUSING ERIC METAXAS' SET
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  • USING ERIC METAXAS' SETRIGHT HERE FOR "PRAISE,"
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  • RIGHT HERE FOR "PRAISE,"AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE
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  • AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, WEHAVE AN AUDIENCE.
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  • HAVE AN AUDIENCE.A LITTLE WAVE, AUDIENCE.
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  • A LITTLE WAVE, AUDIENCE.KIND OF, LOOK AROUND
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  • KIND OF, LOOK AROUNDAND WAVE.
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  • AND WAVE.WE'VE GOT A NICE, LITTLE
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  • WE'VE GOT A NICE, LITTLEAUDIENCE UP HERE.
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  • AUDIENCE UP HERE.- LAURIE: IT'S COLD
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  • - LAURIE: IT'S COLDOUTSIDE, AND THEY'VE
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  • OUTSIDE, AND THEY'VEWEATHERED THE WEATHER AND
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  • WEATHERED THE WEATHER ANDCOME ON OUT, BUT WHO
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  • COME ON OUT, BUT WHOWOULDN'T FOR
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  • WOULDN'T FORMR. JON TYSON?
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  • MR. JON TYSON?- MATT: COME ON NOW, JON
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  • - MATT: COME ON NOW, JONTYSON'S IN THE HOUSE.
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  • TYSON'S IN THE HOUSE.THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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  • THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.- JON TYSON: SO GLAD--
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  • - JON TYSON: SO GLAD--THANK YOU.
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  • THANK YOU.[APPLAUSE]
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  • [APPLAUSE]- MATT: JON PASTORS IN
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  • - MATT: JON PASTORS INNEW YORK, AND, JON, WE GOT
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  • NEW YORK, AND, JON, WE GOTINTRODUCED TO YOUR
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  • INTRODUCED TO YOURPODCAST, OKAY?
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  • PODCAST, OKAY?SO WE HAD SOME FRIENDS
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  • SO WE HAD SOME FRIENDSTHAT STARTED LISTENING,
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  • THAT STARTED LISTENING,AND THEN THEY STARTED
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  • AND THEN THEY STARTEDWEARIN' OUT SOMEBODY, AND
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  • WEARIN' OUT SOMEBODY, ANDTHEN SHE GOT WORN OUT,
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  • THEN SHE GOT WORN OUT,THEN I GOT WORN-- WE'VE
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  • THEN I GOT WORN-- WE'VEBEEN NOW LISTENING AND
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  • BEEN NOW LISTENING ANDBEING A PART OF YOUR
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  • BEING A PART OF YOURMINISTRY BY SOCIAL MEDIA.
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  • MINISTRY BY SOCIAL MEDIA.- LAURIE: YEAH, LISTEN TO
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH, LISTEN TOYOU ALL THE TIME.
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  • YOU ALL THE TIME.- MATT: SO YOU, KIND OF,
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  • - MATT: SO YOU, KIND OF,YOU FOUND A WAY OF-- I
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  • YOU FOUND A WAY OF-- ITOLD YOU ON THE PHONE,
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  • TOLD YOU ON THE PHONE,WHEN WE TALKED, THAT
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  • WHEN WE TALKED, THATCHRISTIANITY DOESN'T HAVE
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  • CHRISTIANITY DOESN'T HAVEA VERY GOOD PR DEPARTMENT.
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  • A VERY GOOD PR DEPARTMENT.MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE
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  • MOST PEOPLE THAT AREVIEWING THAT ARE OUTSIDE
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  • VIEWING THAT ARE OUTSIDEOF OUR IMMEDIATE CIRCLES
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  • OF OUR IMMEDIATE CIRCLESARE SAYING, "CHRISTIANITY
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  • ARE SAYING, "CHRISTIANITYIS ABOUT RULES,
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  • IS ABOUT RULES,REGULATIONS.
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  • REGULATIONS.IT'S ABOUT, KIND OF, A
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  • IT'S ABOUT, KIND OF, ASTRANGE SET OF PRISON WALLS
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  • STRANGE SET OF PRISON WALLSTHAT I DON'T WANNA GO--
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  • THAT I DON'T WANNA GO--NECESSARILY GET
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  • NECESSARILY GETLOCKED UP IN."
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  • LOCKED UP IN."YOU STARTED THE IDEA AND
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  • YOU STARTED THE IDEA ANDREDEFINING SOMEWHAT, AND
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  • REDEFINING SOMEWHAT, ANDIT'S SAD THAT WE SAY
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  • IT'S SAD THAT WE SAY"REDEFINING," BUT THE
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  • "REDEFINING," BUT THEGOSPEL, OR WHAT WE KNEW
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  • GOSPEL, OR WHAT WE KNEWABOUT AND MAYBE EVEN
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  • ABOUT AND MAYBE EVENYOURSELF GREW UP IN,
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  • YOURSELF GREW UP IN,YOU'VE SOMEWHAT REDEFINED.
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  • YOU'VE SOMEWHAT REDEFINED.AND SO RECENTLY YOU
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  • AND SO RECENTLY YOUPREACHED A SERMON CALLED
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  • PREACHED A SERMON CALLED"A MISSIONAL LIFE--"
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  • "A MISSIONAL LIFE--"- LAURIE: KIND OF A SERIES.
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  • - LAURIE: KIND OF A SERIES.- MATT: -- "OUR MISSIONAL
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  • - MATT: -- "OUR MISSIONALMESSAGE," AND I'M ADOPTING
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  • MESSAGE," AND I'M ADOPTINGTHAT MISSIONAL MESSAGE,
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  • THAT MISSIONAL MESSAGE,AND HERE AT TBN, WE ARE
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  • AND HERE AT TBN, WE AREALL IN ON THIS BECAUSE,
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  • ALL IN ON THIS BECAUSE,WHEN IT COMPLETED-- AND I
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  • WHEN IT COMPLETED-- AND ILOOKED AT LAURIE, AND I
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  • LOOKED AT LAURIE, AND ISAID, "THIS SOUNDS 180
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  • SAID, "THIS SOUNDS 180DEGREES DIFFERENT THAN
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  • DEGREES DIFFERENT THANWHAT WE GREW UP IN," AND
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  • WHAT WE GREW UP IN," ANDSO THIS "PRAISE" GOT
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  • SO THIS "PRAISE" GOTSET UP.
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  • SET UP.WHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHING
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  • WHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHINGAROUND THE WORLD, I DON'T
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  • AROUND THE WORLD, I DON'TKNOW WHAT CHURCH
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  • KNOW WHAT CHURCHAFFILIATION THAT YOU GREW
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  • AFFILIATION THAT YOU GREWUP IN AND WHERE-- WHAT
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  • UP IN AND WHERE-- WHATPARTICULAR GROUP YOU WERE
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  • PARTICULAR GROUP YOU WEREA PART OF, BUT THE ONE WE
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  • A PART OF, BUT THE ONE WEGREW UP IN WAS VERY RULES-
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  • GREW UP IN WAS VERY RULES-AND REGULATIONS-ORIENTED.
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  • AND REGULATIONS-ORIENTED.YOU DIDN'T GET THE
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  • YOU DIDN'T GET THEFULL STORY.
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  • FULL STORY.IT FEELS LIKE YOU'VE KIND
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  • IT FEELS LIKE YOU'VE KINDOF STARTED THAT.
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  • OF STARTED THAT.SO "A MISSIONAL LIFE,"
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  • SO "A MISSIONAL LIFE,"WHAT IS THE GOSPEL, JON?
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  • WHAT IS THE GOSPEL, JON?- JON: WELL, I MEAN, IT
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  • - JON: WELL, I MEAN, ITSOUNDS LIKE SUCH AN
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  • SOUNDS LIKE SUCH ANOBVIOUS QUESTION.
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  • "I'VE LEARNED THE
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  • "I'VE LEARNED THEGOSPEL SINCE I WAS
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  • GOSPEL SINCE I WASLITTLE," BUT IT APPEARS TO
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  • LITTLE," BUT IT APPEARS TOME THAT WE SORT OF LOST
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  • ME THAT WE SORT OF LOSTTRACK OF WHAT THAT IS.
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  • TRACK OF WHAT THAT IS.PAUL SEEMED TO INDICATE,
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  • PAUL SEEMED TO INDICATE,WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THIS
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  • WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THISIN ROMANS 1:16, HE SAYS,
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  • IN ROMANS 1:16, HE SAYS,"I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THE
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  • "I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THEGOSPEL BECAUSE IT'S THE
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  • AND SO THE GOSPEL IS
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  • AND SO THE GOSPEL ISAN ANNOUNCEMENT OF
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  • AN ANNOUNCEMENT OFGOOD NEWS, AND IT IS.
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  • GOOD NEWS, AND IT IS.IT'S ACTUALLY SO
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  • IT'S ACTUALLY SOHEARTBREAKING.
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  • HEARTBREAKING.JESUS, WHO WAS A FRIEND OF
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  • JESUS, WHO WAS A FRIEND OFSINNERS, JESUS, WHO LOST
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  • SINNERS, JESUS, WHO LOSTPEOPLE LOVED BEING AROUND,
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  • PEOPLE LOVED BEING AROUND,THAT WAS HIS MESSAGE.
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  • THAT WAS HIS MESSAGE.THAT WAS HIS ANTHEM.
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  • THAT WAS HIS ANTHEM.IT'S WHY HE CAME.
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  • IT'S WHY HE CAME.NOW PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
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  • NOW PEOPLE IN THE WORLDTHINK THAT CHRISTIANS ARE
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  • THINK THAT CHRISTIANS ARETHOSE WHO HATE SINNERS,
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  • THOSE WHO HATE SINNERS,AND THEY DON'T WANNA BE
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  • AND THEY DON'T WANNA BEAROUND THEM, SO WE HAVE
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  • AROUND THEM, SO WE HAVELOST OUR UNDERSTANDING, I
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  • LOST OUR UNDERSTANDING, ITHINK, OR THE CORE OF WHAT
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  • THINK, OR THE CORE OF WHATTHE GOSPEL IS.
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  • THE GOSPEL IS.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AT
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  • I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, ATTHE MOMENT IN HISTORY THAT
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  • THE MOMENT IN HISTORY THATWE LIVE, TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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  • WE LIVE, TO ACKNOWLEDGETHAT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
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  • THAT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUTTHE GOSPEL, THERE'S NOT
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  • THE GOSPEL, THERE'S NOTJUST ONE GOSPEL WE'RE
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  • JUST ONE GOSPEL WE'RETALKING ABOUT.
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  • TALKING ABOUT.EVERYBODY IN OUR SOCIETY
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  • EVERYBODY IN OUR SOCIETYTODAY IS MAKING A CLAIM
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  • TODAY IS MAKING A CLAIMTHAT THERE IS GOOD NEWS.
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  • THAT THERE IS GOOD NEWS.SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF
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  • SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IFIT'S A BRAND WITH A
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  • IT'S A BRAND WITH ABRANDING CAMPAIGN.
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  • BRANDING CAMPAIGN.THEY'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT
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  • THEY'RE TRYING TO RECRUITYOUR AFFECTIONS.
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  • YOUR AFFECTIONS.THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOU
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  • THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOUTO BELIEVE THAT THEIR
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  • TO BELIEVE THAT THEIRPRODUCT OR THEIR MISSION
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  • PRODUCT OR THEIR MISSIONIS THE SOLUTION TO THE
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  • IS THE SOLUTION TO THEDEEPEST LONGINGS OF
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  • DEEPEST LONGINGS OFYOUR HEART.
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  • YOUR HEART.EVERYBODY IS PREACHING A
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  • EVERYBODY IS PREACHING AGOSPEL OF SOME KIND,
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  • GOSPEL OF SOME KIND,WHETHER IT'S CORPORATIONS,
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  • WHETHER IT'S CORPORATIONS,WHETHER IT'S BRANDS,
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  • WHETHER IT'S BRANDS,WHETHER IT'S A SECULAR
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  • WHETHER IT'S A SECULARSOCIETY-- AND THEY PREACH
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  • SOCIETY-- AND THEY PREACHA GOSPEL WHERE YOU DON'T
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  • A GOSPEL WHERE YOU DON'TNEED GOD-- OR WHETHER
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  • NEED GOD-- OR WHETHERIT'S OTHER IDEOLOGIES THAT
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  • IT'S OTHER IDEOLOGIES THATHAPPEN TO BE FLOATING
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  • HAPPEN TO BE FLOATINGAROUND AT THAT TIME,
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  • AROUND AT THAT TIME,SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE,
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  • SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE,THE GOSPEL THAT WE'RE
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  • THE GOSPEL THAT WE'RETALKING ABOUT LIVES IN A
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  • TALKING ABOUT LIVES IN AWORLD SURROUNDED BY A
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  • WORLD SURROUNDED BY AWHOLE SERIES OF OTHER
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  • WHOLE SERIES OF OTHERCOMPETING GOSPELS, AND
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  • COMPETING GOSPELS, ANDTHEY'RE ALL TRYING TO MAKE
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  • THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO MAKETHE CLAIM, "IF YOU BELIEVE
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  • THE CLAIM, "IF YOU BELIEVEIN ME, IF YOU RESPOND TO
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  • IN ME, IF YOU RESPOND TOMY VERSION OF THE GOSPEL,
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  • MY VERSION OF THE GOSPEL,YOU WILL HAVE THE GOOD LIFE.
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  • YOU WILL HAVE THE GOOD LIFE.NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AROUND
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  • NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AROUNDOUR WORLD TODAY, IT DOES
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  • OUR WORLD TODAY, IT DOESAPPEAR THAT WE ARE A WORLD
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  • APPEAR THAT WE ARE A WORLDDESPERATELY IN NEED OF
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  • DESPERATELY IN NEED OFGOOD NEWS.
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  • GOOD NEWS.SO YOU LOOK AT THE
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  • SO YOU LOOK AT THEHEARTACHE THAT OUR SOCIETY
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  • HEARTACHE THAT OUR SOCIETYIS EXPERIENCING.
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  • IS EXPERIENCING.YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN
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  • YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWNOF INDIVIDUAL LIVES,
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  • OF INDIVIDUAL LIVES,FAMILIES, JUST ALL OF THE
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  • FAMILIES, JUST ALL OF THETENSION, THE PROBLEMS, THE
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  • TENSION, THE PROBLEMS, THEOPIOID EPIDEMIC, SO MANY
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  • OPIOID EPIDEMIC, SO MANYTHINGS HAPPENING IN OUR
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  • THINGS HAPPENING IN OURWORLD TODAY.
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  • WORLD TODAY.WE ACHE FOR GOOD NEWS.
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  • WE ACHE FOR GOOD NEWS.I STARTED OUT READING A
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  • I STARTED OUT READING ASTOIC PHILOSOPHER NAMED
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  • STOIC PHILOSOPHER NAMEDWILLIAM IRVINE, AND HE
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  • WILLIAM IRVINE, AND HEWROTE A BOOK ON THE GOOD
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  • WROTE A BOOK ON THE GOODLIFE, AND HE HAD THIS
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  • LIFE, AND HE HAD THISCONCEPT AT THE
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  • CONCEPT AT THEINTRODUCTION OF IT CALLED
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  • INTRODUCTION OF IT CALLED"MISLIVING," AND IF YOU
  • 00:05:13.997 --> 00:05:14.764
  • "MISLIVING," AND IF YOUTYPE THAT INTO A COMPUTER,
  • 00:05:14.764 --> 00:05:15.231
  • TYPE THAT INTO A COMPUTER,IT'S LIKE IT'S
  • 00:05:15.231 --> 00:05:15.865
  • IT'S LIKE IT'SSPELL-CORRECTED A HUNDRED
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  • SPELL-CORRECTED A HUNDREDTIMES.
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  • TIMES.YOU NEVER GET TO THE
  • 00:05:17.033 --> 00:05:17.767
  • YOU NEVER GET TO THEACTUAL WORD, BUT IT WAS A
  • 00:05:17.767 --> 00:05:18.401
  • ACTUAL WORD, BUT IT WAS ACONCEPT THAT REALLY SHOOK
  • 00:05:18.401 --> 00:05:19.135
  • CONCEPT THAT REALLY SHOOKME BECAUSE HE SAID IT'S
  • 00:05:19.135 --> 00:05:21.338
  • ME BECAUSE HE SAID IT'SPOSSIBLE, AND THIS IS ONE
  • 00:05:21.338 --> 00:05:22.872
  • POSSIBLE, AND THIS IS ONEOF OUR DEEPEST FEARS THE
  • 00:05:22.872 --> 00:05:23.473
  • OF OUR DEEPEST FEARS THEGOSPEL IS TRYING TO
  • 00:05:23.473 --> 00:05:24.708
  • GOSPEL IS TRYING TOADDRESS: IT'S POSSIBLE
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  • ADDRESS: IT'S POSSIBLETHAT WE MISLIVE, THAT, IN
  • 00:05:27.010 --> 00:05:28.378
  • THAT WE MISLIVE, THAT, INSPITE OF ALL OF THE MONEY
  • 00:05:28.378 --> 00:05:29.713
  • SPITE OF ALL OF THE MONEYWE SPEND, THE THINGS WE
  • 00:05:29.713 --> 00:05:30.413
  • WE SPEND, THE THINGS WEPOST ON INSTAGRAM, IN
  • 00:05:30.413 --> 00:05:31.414
  • POST ON INSTAGRAM, INSPITE OF ALL OF OUR
  • 00:05:31.414 --> 00:05:34.017
  • SPITE OF ALL OF OURHOBBIES AND OUR WORK AND
  • 00:05:34.017 --> 00:05:35.151
  • HOBBIES AND OUR WORK ANDOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WE'RE
  • 00:05:35.151 --> 00:05:35.919
  • OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WE'REGONNA GET TO THE END OF
  • 00:05:35.919 --> 00:05:37.087
  • GONNA GET TO THE END OFOUR LIVES, AND WHEN WE
  • 00:05:37.087 --> 00:05:38.421
  • OUR LIVES, AND WHEN WELOOK BACK IN IT, WE'RE
  • 00:05:38.421 --> 00:05:39.189
  • LOOK BACK IN IT, WE'REGONNA BE FILLED WITH
  • 00:05:39.189 --> 00:05:40.457
  • GONNA BE FILLED WITHREGRET AND DESPAIR BECAUSE
  • 00:05:40.457 --> 00:05:42.726
  • REGRET AND DESPAIR BECAUSEWE MISLIVED.
  • 00:05:42.726 --> 00:05:43.660
  • WE MISLIVED.WE DID NOT MASTER THE ART
  • 00:05:43.660 --> 00:05:46.663
  • WE DID NOT MASTER THE ARTOF LIVING OR RESPOND WELL,
  • 00:05:46.663 --> 00:05:47.464
  • OF LIVING OR RESPOND WELL,AND I THINK, IN MANY WAYS,
  • 00:05:47.464 --> 00:05:48.698
  • AND I THINK, IN MANY WAYS,ALL OF THESE FALSE GOSPELS
  • 00:05:48.698 --> 00:05:50.567
  • ALL OF THESE FALSE GOSPELSOR CULTURAL GOSPELS ARE
  • 00:05:50.567 --> 00:05:51.868
  • OR CULTURAL GOSPELS ARETRYIN' TO TEACH US HOW TO
  • 00:05:51.868 --> 00:05:52.969
  • TRYIN' TO TEACH US HOW TOLIVE WELL, AND THE
  • 00:05:52.969 --> 00:05:54.371
  • LIVE WELL, AND THECHRISTIAN GOSPEL IS
  • 00:05:54.371 --> 00:05:56.373
  • CHRISTIAN GOSPEL ISBREAKING THROUGH ALL OF
  • 00:05:56.373 --> 00:05:57.407
  • BREAKING THROUGH ALL OFTHOSE THINGS, THE GOOD
  • 00:05:57.407 --> 00:05:58.908
  • THOSE THINGS, THE GOODNEWS OF THE STORY OF
  • 00:05:58.908 --> 00:05:59.776
  • NEWS OF THE STORY OFJESUS, AND IT'S TRYIN' TO
  • 00:05:59.776 --> 00:06:00.944
  • JESUS, AND IT'S TRYIN' TOMAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT:
  • 00:06:00.944 --> 00:06:02.512
  • MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT:GOD'S MESSAGE OF SALVATION
  • 00:06:02.512 --> 00:06:03.813
  • GOD'S MESSAGE OF SALVATIONIS GOOD NEWS FOR YOU.
  • 00:06:03.813 --> 00:06:05.081
  • IS GOOD NEWS FOR YOU.NOW, THE TERM "GOSPEL" IS
  • 00:06:05.081 --> 00:06:06.516
  • NOW, THE TERM "GOSPEL" ISNOT SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:06:06.516 --> 00:06:08.084
  • NOT SOMETHING THATCHRISTIANS INVENTED.
  • 00:06:08.084 --> 00:06:09.419
  • CHRISTIANS INVENTED.IN SOME SENSE, THEY
  • 00:06:09.419 --> 00:06:10.954
  • IN SOME SENSE, THEYAPPROPRIATED IT A LITTLE
  • 00:06:10.954 --> 00:06:12.655
  • APPROPRIATED IT A LITTLEBIT FROM THE ROMANS.
  • 00:06:12.655 --> 00:06:13.390
  • BIT FROM THE ROMANS.SO THEY TOOK THIS TERM
  • 00:06:13.390 --> 00:06:14.290
  • SO THEY TOOK THIS TERMTHAT EXISTED IN ROMAN
  • 00:06:14.290 --> 00:06:15.024
  • THAT EXISTED IN ROMANSOCIETY, WHICH WAS
  • 00:06:15.024 --> 00:06:17.427
  • SOCIETY, WHICH WASORIGINALLY A MILITARY WORD.
  • 00:06:17.427 --> 00:06:18.061
  • ORIGINALLY A MILITARY WORD.SO WHEN THE ROMANS WOULD
  • 00:06:18.061 --> 00:06:20.029
  • SO WHEN THE ROMANS WOULDGO IN AND THEY WOULD HAVE
  • 00:06:20.029 --> 00:06:20.997
  • GO IN AND THEY WOULD HAVEA BATTLE WITH ONE OF
  • 00:06:20.997 --> 00:06:22.265
  • A BATTLE WITH ONE OFTHESE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF,
  • 00:06:22.265 --> 00:06:23.333
  • THESE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF,UPSTART NATIONS THAT WERE
  • 00:06:23.333 --> 00:06:24.367
  • UPSTART NATIONS THAT WERETRYING TO EXERT THEIR
  • 00:06:24.367 --> 00:06:26.136
  • TRYING TO EXERT THEIRINDEPENDENCE, THE ROMANS
  • 00:06:26.136 --> 00:06:27.337
  • INDEPENDENCE, THE ROMANSWOULD CRUSH THEM, AND
  • 00:06:27.337 --> 00:06:28.338
  • WOULD CRUSH THEM, ANDTHEY'D SEND OUT MESSENGERS
  • 00:06:28.338 --> 00:06:29.272
  • THEY'D SEND OUT MESSENGERSFOR PEOPLE WHO WERE
  • 00:06:29.272 --> 00:06:29.873
  • FOR PEOPLE WHO WEREWAITING TO HEAR HOW THE
  • 00:06:29.873 --> 00:06:30.640
  • WAITING TO HEAR HOW THEBATTLE WENT, AND WHAT THEY
  • 00:06:30.640 --> 00:06:31.841
  • BATTLE WENT, AND WHAT THEYWOULD SEND OUT WAS THIS
  • 00:06:31.841 --> 00:06:33.443
  • WOULD SEND OUT WAS THISCRY, "ROMA VICTOR," AND IT
  • 00:06:33.443 --> 00:06:35.078
  • CRY, "ROMA VICTOR," AND ITBASICALLY WANTED PEOPLE TO
  • 00:06:35.078 --> 00:06:36.379
  • BASICALLY WANTED PEOPLE TOKNOW "ROME HAS CONQUERED
  • 00:06:36.379 --> 00:06:37.414
  • KNOW "ROME HAS CONQUEREDHER ENEMIES.
  • 00:06:37.414 --> 00:06:38.882
  • HER ENEMIES.PEACE IS COMING."
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  • PEACE IS COMING."AND SO, WHEN THE CHRISTIANS
  • 00:06:39.916 --> 00:06:41.017
  • AND SO, WHEN THE CHRISTIANSWERE TRYING TO ARTICULATE
  • 00:06:41.017 --> 00:06:41.985
  • WERE TRYING TO ARTICULATE"WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE BRINGING
  • 00:06:41.985 --> 00:06:43.953
  • "WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE BRINGINGINTO THE WORLD?"
  • 00:06:43.953 --> 00:06:45.488
  • INTO THE WORLD?"THEY LOOKED AT THIS TERM
  • 00:06:45.488 --> 00:06:46.823
  • THEY LOOKED AT THIS TERMAND HOW IT WAS USED BY THE
  • 00:06:46.823 --> 00:06:48.458
  • AND HOW IT WAS USED BY THEROMANS, AND THEY SAID,
  • 00:06:48.458 --> 00:06:49.092
  • ROMANS, AND THEY SAID,"AHA, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE
  • 00:06:49.092 --> 00:06:49.759
  • "AHA, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVEIN THE PERSON OF JESUS."
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  • IN THE PERSON OF JESUS."SO THE ROMANS WERE
  • 00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:52.228
  • SO THE ROMANS WEREFIGHTING NATURAL ENEMIES,
  • 00:06:52.228 --> 00:06:53.863
  • FIGHTING NATURAL ENEMIES,EXPANDING A NATURAL
  • 00:06:53.863 --> 00:06:54.764
  • EXPANDING A NATURALKINGDOM AND AN EMPIRE.
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  • KINGDOM AND AN EMPIRE.AND THEY SAID, "WE HAVE A
  • 00:06:55.732 --> 00:06:56.866
  • AND THEY SAID, "WE HAVE AKING, KING JESUS.
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  • KING, KING JESUS.HE'S DEFEATED SIN, SATAN,
  • 00:06:59.736 --> 00:07:00.570
  • HE'S DEFEATED SIN, SATAN,DEATH, AND HELL, ON OUR
  • 00:07:00.570 --> 00:07:02.305
  • DEATH, AND HELL, ON OURBEHALF, AND IT'S NOT AN
  • 00:07:02.305 --> 00:07:03.039
  • BEHALF, AND IT'S NOT ANANNOUNCEMENT OF WHAT YOU
  • 00:07:03.039 --> 00:07:04.741
  • IT'S A DECLARATION OF WHAT
  • 00:07:06.409 --> 00:07:07.110
  • IT'S A DECLARATION OF WHATHE HAS DONE, AND HE'S NOW
  • 00:07:07.110 --> 00:07:08.178
  • HE HAS DONE, AND HE'S NOWBRINGING PEACE TO THE WORLD."
  • 00:07:08.178 --> 00:07:09.712
  • BRINGING PEACE TO THE WORLD."SO THAT'S ORIGINALLY WHAT,
  • 00:07:09.712 --> 00:07:10.847
  • SO THAT'S ORIGINALLY WHAT,SORT OF, THE GOSPEL MEANT.
  • 00:07:10.847 --> 00:07:12.048
  • SORT OF, THE GOSPEL MEANT.SO WE LIVE IN A TIME OF
  • 00:07:12.048 --> 00:07:13.216
  • SO WE LIVE IN A TIME OFHISTORY WHERE THERE'S
  • 00:07:13.216 --> 00:07:15.051
  • THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL IS
  • 00:07:16.686 --> 00:07:20.323
  • THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL ISMAKING SURE THAT WE LIVE WELL.
  • 00:07:20.323 --> 00:07:21.925
  • MAKING SURE THAT WE LIVE WELL.AND IF WE LISTEN TO THESE
  • 00:07:21.925 --> 00:07:22.559
  • AND IF WE LISTEN TO THESEFALSE GOSPELS, WE WON'T,
  • 00:07:22.559 --> 00:07:23.560
  • FALSE GOSPELS, WE WON'T,AND THEN WE HAVE TO
  • 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:24.194
  • AND THEN WE HAVE TOUNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN
  • 00:07:24.194 --> 00:07:25.195
  • UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ANANNOUNCEMENT OF SOMETHING
  • 00:07:25.195 --> 00:07:25.862
  • ANNOUNCEMENT OF SOMETHINGTHAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DONE.
  • 00:07:25.862 --> 00:07:26.496
  • THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DONE.WE'RE NOT TELLING PEOPLE,
  • 00:07:26.496 --> 00:07:28.765
  • WE'RE NOT TELLING PEOPLE,"HERE'S THE NEWS.
  • 00:07:28.765 --> 00:07:29.466
  • "HERE'S THE NEWS.LIVE UP TO THE LAW.
  • 00:07:29.466 --> 00:07:30.967
  • LIVE UP TO THE LAW.HERE'S THE NEWS.
  • 00:07:30.967 --> 00:07:32.001
  • HERE'S THE NEWS.YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE YOURSELF
  • 00:07:32.001 --> 00:07:34.037
  • YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE YOURSELFRIGHT WITH GOD BY YOUR OWN
  • 00:07:34.037 --> 00:07:34.537
  • RIGHT WITH GOD BY YOUR OWNEFFORT."
  • 00:07:34.537 --> 00:07:35.138
  • EFFORT."IT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF
  • 00:07:35.138 --> 00:07:37.006
  • IT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT OFWHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR US.
  • 00:07:37.006 --> 00:07:37.907
  • WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR US.SO THAT, IN ESSENCE, IS
  • 00:07:37.907 --> 00:07:39.075
  • SO THAT, IN ESSENCE, ISSORT OF THE HEART OF THE
  • 00:07:39.075 --> 00:07:39.709
  • SORT OF THE HEART OF THEGOSPEL.
  • 00:07:39.709 --> 00:07:41.544
  • GOSPEL.IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME,
  • 00:07:41.544 --> 00:07:43.913
  • IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME,"WHAT ARE THE, SORT OF,
  • 00:07:43.913 --> 00:07:45.548
  • "WHAT ARE THE, SORT OF,THREE GREATEST THREATS
  • 00:07:45.548 --> 00:07:46.883
  • THREE GREATEST THREATSAMIDST ALL OF THESE FALSE
  • 00:07:46.883 --> 00:07:47.617
  • AMIDST ALL OF THESE FALSEGOSPELS?"
  • 00:07:47.617 --> 00:07:49.419
  • GOSPELS?""WHAT ARE THE THREE
  • 00:07:49.419 --> 00:07:50.487
  • "WHAT ARE THE THREEGREATEST THREATS THE TRUE
  • 00:07:50.487 --> 00:07:51.788
  • GREATEST THREATS THE TRUEGOSPEL HAS TO CONFRONT?"
  • 00:07:51.788 --> 00:07:52.722
  • GOSPEL HAS TO CONFRONT?"I WOULD SAY, I THINK, IN
  • 00:07:52.722 --> 00:07:53.923
  • I WOULD SAY, I THINK, INSOCIETY TODAY, THERE'S
  • 00:07:53.923 --> 00:07:55.425
  • SOCIETY TODAY, THERE'SPROBABLY-- WELL, YOU COULD
  • 00:07:55.425 --> 00:07:57.894
  • PROBABLY-- WELL, YOU COULDCATEGORIZE THEM IN THIS WAY:
  • 00:07:57.894 --> 00:07:58.461
  • CATEGORIZE THEM IN THIS WAY:THE FIRST ONE IS
  • 00:07:58.461 --> 00:08:00.997
  • THE FIRST ONE ISSORT OF A SCIENTIFIC
  • 00:08:00.997 --> 00:08:03.132
  • SORT OF A SCIENTIFICMATERIALIST THREAT, AND
  • 00:08:03.132 --> 00:08:03.766
  • MATERIALIST THREAT, ANDTHIS BASICALLY SAYS, "THE
  • 00:08:03.766 --> 00:08:04.534
  • THIS BASICALLY SAYS, "THEUNIVERSE CAME FROM NOTHING.
  • 00:08:04.534 --> 00:08:05.368
  • UNIVERSE CAME FROM NOTHING.THE ONLY THING THAT
  • 00:08:05.368 --> 00:08:07.136
  • THE ONLY THING THATMATTERS IS MATTER.
  • 00:08:07.136 --> 00:08:07.637
  • MATTERS IS MATTER.THERE'S NO SPIRIT.
  • 00:08:07.637 --> 00:08:08.505
  • THERE'S NO SPIRIT.THERE'S NO LIFE.
  • 00:08:08.505 --> 00:08:09.606
  • THERE'S NO LIFE.THERE'S NO GOD.
  • 00:08:09.606 --> 00:08:11.007
  • THERE'S NO GOD.THAT THAT'S SUPERNATURAL
  • 00:08:11.007 --> 00:08:11.574
  • THAT THAT'S SUPERNATURALSTUFF.
  • 00:08:11.574 --> 00:08:12.575
  • STUFF.IT'S ALL JUST BRONZE AGE
  • 00:08:12.575 --> 00:08:14.511
  • IT'S ALL JUST BRONZE AGEMYTHS.
  • 00:08:14.511 --> 00:08:15.411
  • MYTHS.IT'S JUST FAIRY STORIES,
  • 00:08:15.411 --> 00:08:17.213
  • IT'S JUST FAIRY STORIES,AND NOW THAT SCIENCE HAS
  • 00:08:17.213 --> 00:08:18.715
  • AND NOW THAT SCIENCE HASDEVELOPED, AND WE FILLED
  • 00:08:18.715 --> 00:08:20.016
  • DEVELOPED, AND WE FILLEDIN ALL OF THOSE GAPS IN
  • 00:08:20.016 --> 00:08:20.984
  • IN ALL OF THOSE GAPS INKNOWLEDGE, WE CAN SEE
  • 00:08:20.984 --> 00:08:22.118
  • KNOWLEDGE, WE CAN SEEBASICALLY PEOPLE INVENTED
  • 00:08:22.118 --> 00:08:23.253
  • BASICALLY PEOPLE INVENTEDTHESE THINGS AS A WAY OF
  • 00:08:23.253 --> 00:08:24.954
  • THESE THINGS AS A WAY OFEXPLAINING THE UNIVERSE,
  • 00:08:24.954 --> 00:08:25.989
  • EXPLAINING THE UNIVERSE,BUT NOW WE HAVE SCIENCE,
  • 00:08:25.989 --> 00:08:27.156
  • BUT NOW WE HAVE SCIENCE,WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY, SO WE
  • 00:08:27.156 --> 00:08:28.558
  • WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY, SO WEDON'T NEED ANY OF THAT STUFF."
  • 00:08:28.558 --> 00:08:30.260
  • DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT STUFF."AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE
  • 00:08:30.260 --> 00:08:31.227
  • AND SO WHAT YOU HAVETO DO IF YOU BELIEVE
  • 00:08:31.227 --> 00:08:32.161
  • TO DO IF YOU BELIEVETHAT GOSPEL, WHICH IS
  • 00:08:32.161 --> 00:08:34.163
  • THAT GOSPEL, WHICH ISPREACHED A LOT IN OUR
  • 00:08:34.163 --> 00:08:35.431
  • PREACHED A LOT IN OURWORLD TODAY, IS YOU HAVE
  • 00:08:35.431 --> 00:08:36.332
  • WORLD TODAY, IS YOU HAVETO BELIEVE YOU CAME FROM
  • 00:08:36.332 --> 00:08:37.433
  • TO BELIEVE YOU CAME FROMNOTHING, YOU HAVE NO
  • 00:08:37.433 --> 00:08:39.068
  • NOTHING, YOU HAVE NOPURPOSE, NO IMPLICIT
  • 00:08:39.068 --> 00:08:40.136
  • PURPOSE, NO IMPLICITPURPOSE, YOU ARE JUST A
  • 00:08:40.136 --> 00:08:41.905
  • PURPOSE, YOU ARE JUST ACOLLECTION OF CELLS, AND
  • 00:08:41.905 --> 00:08:43.339
  • COLLECTION OF CELLS, ANDAT THE SAME TIME, THE
  • 00:08:43.339 --> 00:08:44.707
  • AT THE SAME TIME, THEUNIVERSE IS GONNA BURN UP
  • 00:08:44.707 --> 00:08:46.175
  • UNIVERSE IS GONNA BURN UPAND AMOUNT TO NOTHING,
  • 00:08:46.175 --> 00:08:47.343
  • AND AMOUNT TO NOTHING,LIKE YOU WERE NEVER HERE,
  • 00:08:47.343 --> 00:08:49.379
  • LIKE YOU WERE NEVER HERE,AND YOU ARE INFINITELY
  • 00:08:49.379 --> 00:08:51.114
  • AND YOU ARE INFINITELYWONDERFUL AND SPECIAL AND
  • 00:08:51.114 --> 00:08:52.715
  • WONDERFUL AND SPECIAL ANDUNIQUE AND WORTHY OF ALL
  • 00:08:52.715 --> 00:08:54.250
  • UNIQUE AND WORTHY OF ALLOF THE ADORATION OF THE
  • 00:08:54.250 --> 00:08:55.985
  • OF THE ADORATION OF THEUNIVERSE-- AND SO YOU HAVE
  • 00:08:55.985 --> 00:08:57.353
  • UNIVERSE-- AND SO YOU HAVETO HAVE THIS, SORT OF,
  • 00:08:57.353 --> 00:08:58.021
  • TO HAVE THIS, SORT OF,LIKE-- YOU HAVE TO PLAY
  • 00:08:58.021 --> 00:08:59.255
  • LIKE-- YOU HAVE TO PLAYGAMES IN YOUR MIND AGAINST
  • 00:08:59.255 --> 00:09:00.690
  • GAMES IN YOUR MIND AGAINSTTHE HARSH REALITY THAT WE
  • 00:09:00.690 --> 00:09:01.758
  • THE HARSH REALITY THAT WECOME FROM NOTHING, WE'RE
  • 00:09:01.758 --> 00:09:02.492
  • COME FROM NOTHING, WE'REGOING NOWHERE, BUT YOU'RE
  • 00:09:02.492 --> 00:09:03.326
  • GOING NOWHERE, BUT YOU'REREALLY SPECIAL.
  • 00:09:03.326 --> 00:09:04.794
  • REALLY SPECIAL.BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE
  • 00:09:04.794 --> 00:09:06.563
  • BUT THAT IS ONE OF THEPREDOMINANT GOSPELS THAT
  • 00:09:06.563 --> 00:09:07.931
  • PREDOMINANT GOSPELS THATYOU SEE PREACHED IN OUR
  • 00:09:07.931 --> 00:09:08.531
  • YOU SEE PREACHED IN OURSOCIETY TODAY.
  • 00:09:08.531 --> 00:09:09.732
  • SOCIETY TODAY.I THINK ANOTHER GOSPEL WE
  • 00:09:09.732 --> 00:09:10.633
  • I THINK ANOTHER GOSPEL WESEE IS, SORT OF, LIKE THE
  • 00:09:10.633 --> 00:09:11.234
  • SEE IS, SORT OF, LIKE THEPOST-MODERN GOSPEL, AND
  • 00:09:11.234 --> 00:09:12.635
  • POST-MODERN GOSPEL, ANDTHIS IS PRIMARILY TRYIN'
  • 00:09:12.635 --> 00:09:14.737
  • THIS IS PRIMARILY TRYIN'TO MAKE THE CLAIM THAT ANY
  • 00:09:14.737 --> 00:09:16.005
  • TO MAKE THE CLAIM THAT ANYTIME PEOPLE SAY, "I HAVE
  • 00:09:16.005 --> 00:09:17.273
  • TIME PEOPLE SAY, "I HAVETHE TRUTH," IT'S DANGEROUS,
  • 00:09:17.273 --> 00:09:19.642
  • THE TRUTH," IT'S DANGEROUS,AND SO ANY SORT OF
  • 00:09:19.642 --> 00:09:20.944
  • AND SO ANY SORT OFNARRATIVE OR STORY THAT
  • 00:09:20.944 --> 00:09:22.378
  • NARRATIVE OR STORY THATIS A TOTAL STORY,
  • 00:09:22.378 --> 00:09:24.647
  • IS A TOTAL STORY,A TOTALIZING STORY, IT'S
  • 00:09:24.647 --> 00:09:26.215
  • A TOTALIZING STORY, IT'SABOUT POWER, AND ANY TIME
  • 00:09:26.215 --> 00:09:27.317
  • ABOUT POWER, AND ANY TIMEPEOPLE GET POWER.
  • 00:09:27.317 --> 00:09:29.686
  • PEOPLE GET POWER.THEY USE IT TO OPPRESS PEOPLE.
  • 00:09:29.686 --> 00:09:31.187
  • THEY USE IT TO OPPRESS PEOPLE.AND SO POST-MODERNISM, IN
  • 00:09:31.187 --> 00:09:32.255
  • AND SO POST-MODERNISM, INSOME SENSE, CAN BE
  • 00:09:32.255 --> 00:09:32.956
  • SOME SENSE, CAN BESUMMARIZED WITH THE PHRASE
  • 00:09:32.956 --> 00:09:33.890
  • SUMMARIZED WITH THE PHRASE"SUSPICION OF
  • 00:09:33.890 --> 00:09:35.258
  • "SUSPICION OFMETA-NARRATIVES," WHICH
  • 00:09:35.258 --> 00:09:36.893
  • META-NARRATIVES," WHICHMEANS, ANYBODY WHO MAKES A
  • 00:09:36.893 --> 00:09:38.728
  • MEANS, ANYBODY WHO MAKES ATOTAL TRUTH CLAIM, I DOUBT
  • 00:09:38.728 --> 00:09:40.396
  • TOTAL TRUTH CLAIM, I DOUBTTHEIR MOTIVES.
  • 00:09:40.396 --> 00:09:41.731
  • THEIR MOTIVES.AND IF YOU LOOK BACK OVER
  • 00:09:41.731 --> 00:09:42.699
  • AND IF YOU LOOK BACK OVERTHE 20TH CENTURY, YOU LOOK
  • 00:09:42.699 --> 00:09:44.067
  • THE 20TH CENTURY, YOU LOOKAT, SORT OF, THOSE REGIMES
  • 00:09:44.067 --> 00:09:45.568
  • AT, SORT OF, THOSE REGIMESTHAT SEIZED POWER AND
  • 00:09:45.568 --> 00:09:46.703
  • THAT SEIZED POWER ANDSAID, "WE'RE THE ONLY ONES
  • 00:09:46.703 --> 00:09:47.870
  • SAID, "WE'RE THE ONLY ONESWHO ARE RIGHT."
  • 00:09:47.870 --> 00:09:48.771
  • WHO ARE RIGHT."THEY OFTEN DID TREMENDOUS
  • 00:09:48.771 --> 00:09:50.406
  • THEY OFTEN DID TREMENDOUSDAMAGE, AND SO PEOPLE CAN BE
  • 00:09:50.406 --> 00:09:51.641
  • DAMAGE, AND SO PEOPLE CAN BESUSPICIOUS OF THE
  • 00:09:51.641 --> 00:09:52.675
  • SUSPICIOUS OF THECHRISTIAN GOSPEL WITH THE
  • 00:09:52.675 --> 00:09:55.011
  • CHRISTIAN GOSPEL WITH THECLAIMS THAT WE MAKE ABOUT
  • 00:09:55.011 --> 00:09:56.312
  • CLAIMS THAT WE MAKE ABOUTHAVING THE ONE TRUE HUMAN
  • 00:09:56.312 --> 00:09:57.447
  • HAVING THE ONE TRUE HUMANSTORY, AND SO, FOR THEM,
  • 00:09:57.447 --> 00:09:58.681
  • STORY, AND SO, FOR THEM,IT'S ABOUT SUSPICION OF
  • 00:09:58.681 --> 00:09:59.916
  • IT'S ABOUT SUSPICION OFPOWER DYNAMICS AND FINDING
  • 00:09:59.916 --> 00:10:02.051
  • POWER DYNAMICS AND FINDINGOUT WHO THE VICTIM IS AND
  • 00:10:02.051 --> 00:10:02.819
  • OUT WHO THE VICTIM IS ANDFINDING OUT WHO THE
  • 00:10:02.819 --> 00:10:04.120
  • FINDING OUT WHO THEOPPRESSOR IS AND ALIGNING
  • 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:05.321
  • OPPRESSOR IS AND ALIGNINGYOURSELF WITH THE
  • 00:10:05.321 --> 00:10:06.522
  • YOURSELF WITH THEOPPRESSED, AND THEN FIGHTING
  • 00:10:06.522 --> 00:10:07.824
  • OPPRESSED, AND THEN FIGHTINGFOR EQUALITY FOR ALL.
  • 00:10:07.824 --> 00:10:09.125
  • FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL.BUT THAT'S A STORY THAT
  • 00:10:09.125 --> 00:10:10.159
  • BUT THAT'S A STORY THATDOESN'T INCLUDE GOD.
  • 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:11.260
  • DOESN'T INCLUDE GOD.IT DOESN'T INCLUDE JESUS.
  • 00:10:11.260 --> 00:10:12.328
  • IT DOESN'T INCLUDE JESUS.IT DOESN'T INCLUDE TRUTH.
  • 00:10:12.328 --> 00:10:13.563
  • IT DOESN'T INCLUDE TRUTH.THE LAST GOSPEL, I THINK,
  • 00:10:13.563 --> 00:10:14.864
  • THE LAST GOSPEL, I THINK,THAT WE SEE THAT'S A REAL
  • 00:10:14.864 --> 00:10:15.898
  • THAT WE SEE THAT'S A REALTHREAT TO THE CHRISTIAN
  • 00:10:15.898 --> 00:10:17.133
  • THREAT TO THE CHRISTIANGOSPEL IS WHAT I WOULD
  • 00:10:17.133 --> 00:10:18.668
  • GOSPEL IS WHAT I WOULDCALL "THE GOSPEL OF
  • 00:10:18.668 --> 00:10:19.268
  • CALL "THE GOSPEL OFSELF-ACTUALIZATION," AND
  • 00:10:19.268 --> 00:10:19.902
  • SELF-ACTUALIZATION," ANDIT SORT OF GOES SOMETHING
  • 00:10:19.902 --> 00:10:20.903
  • IT SORT OF GOES SOMETHINGLIKE THIS: "I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:10:20.903 --> 00:10:22.705
  • LIKE THIS: "I DON'T KNOWANY OF THOSE BIG
  • 00:10:22.705 --> 00:10:24.340
  • ANY OF THOSE BIGQUESTIONS, AND CAN ANY OF
  • 00:10:24.340 --> 00:10:25.108
  • QUESTIONS, AND CAN ANY OFUS, REALLY?
  • 00:10:25.108 --> 00:10:26.075
  • US, REALLY?THERE'S SO MANY RELIGIONS.
  • 00:10:26.075 --> 00:10:26.909
  • THERE'S SO MANY RELIGIONS.THERE'S SO MANY
  • 00:10:26.909 --> 00:10:27.610
  • THERE'S SO MANYPHILOSOPHIES.
  • 00:10:27.610 --> 00:10:28.945
  • PHILOSOPHIES.NOW, BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:10:28.945 --> 00:10:29.612
  • NOW, BECAUSE OF THEINTERNET, WE'RE EXPOSED TO
  • 00:10:29.612 --> 00:10:30.780
  • INTERNET, WE'RE EXPOSED TOTHE WHOLE WORLD.
  • 00:10:30.780 --> 00:10:32.015
  • THE WHOLE WORLD.NO ONE CAN KNOW ANYTHING,
  • 00:10:32.015 --> 00:10:33.082
  • NO ONE CAN KNOW ANYTHING,SO HERE'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO:
  • 00:10:33.082 --> 00:10:34.417
  • SO HERE'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO:STOP CARING ABOUT THE BIG
  • 00:10:34.417 --> 00:10:35.451
  • STOP CARING ABOUT THE BIGTHINGS AND START CARING
  • 00:10:35.451 --> 00:10:36.853
  • THINGS AND START CARINGABOUT MYSELF,
  • 00:10:36.853 --> 00:10:38.454
  • ABOUT MYSELF,AND THEN MY LIFE IS NOW A
  • 00:10:38.454 --> 00:10:39.489
  • AND THEN MY LIFE IS NOW ABLANK CANVAS OF
  • 00:10:39.489 --> 00:10:41.157
  • BLANK CANVAS OFSELF-EXPRESSION AND
  • 00:10:41.157 --> 00:10:41.858
  • SELF-EXPRESSION ANDSELF-ACTUALIZATION, SO THE
  • 00:10:41.858 --> 00:10:42.558
  • SELF-ACTUALIZATION, SO THENUMBER ONE THING I CARE
  • 00:10:42.558 --> 00:10:47.096
  • NUMBER ONE THING I CAREABOUT IS RIGHTS
  • 00:10:47.096 --> 00:10:48.031
  • ABOUT IS RIGHTSESTABLISHED IN THE WORLD
  • 00:10:48.031 --> 00:10:49.065
  • ESTABLISHED IN THE WORLDTHAT I LIVE SO I CAN BE
  • 00:10:49.065 --> 00:10:49.699
  • THAT I LIVE SO I CAN BETHE PERSON I'VE ALWAYS
  • 00:10:49.699 --> 00:10:51.467
  • THE PERSON I'VE ALWAYSWANTED TO BE."
  • 00:10:51.467 --> 00:10:52.035
  • WANTED TO BE."AND THESE GOSPELS ARE
  • 00:10:52.035 --> 00:10:54.137
  • AND THESE GOSPELS AREPREACHED THROUGH THE MEDIA.
  • 00:10:54.137 --> 00:10:55.104
  • PREACHED THROUGH THE MEDIA.THESE GOSPELS ARE PREACHED
  • 00:10:55.104 --> 00:10:56.239
  • THESE GOSPELS ARE PREACHEDTHROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:10:56.239 --> 00:10:56.939
  • THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.THESE GOSPELS ARE PREACHED
  • 00:10:56.939 --> 00:10:58.207
  • THESE GOSPELS ARE PREACHEDIN OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM,
  • 00:10:58.207 --> 00:10:59.542
  • IN OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM,AND SO WE HAVE TO REALIZE
  • 00:10:59.542 --> 00:11:01.744
  • AND SO WE HAVE TO REALIZETHE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL IS AT
  • 00:11:01.744 --> 00:11:04.047
  • THE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL IS ATWAR AND, IN SOME SENSE,
  • 00:11:04.047 --> 00:11:05.682
  • WAR AND, IN SOME SENSE,COMPETING WITH THESE OTHER
  • 00:11:05.682 --> 00:11:06.349
  • COMPETING WITH THESE OTHERNARRATIVES THAT ARE TRYING
  • 00:11:06.349 --> 00:11:08.017
  • NARRATIVES THAT ARE TRYINGTO RECRUIT OUR AFFECTIONS,
  • 00:11:08.017 --> 00:11:09.952
  • TO RECRUIT OUR AFFECTIONS,BUT I BELIEVE THE GOSPEL
  • 00:11:09.952 --> 00:11:10.820
  • BUT I BELIEVE THE GOSPELIS GOOD NEWS, AND I
  • 00:11:10.820 --> 00:11:12.121
  • IS GOOD NEWS, AND IBELIEVE IT'S THE TRUE ANSWER
  • 00:11:12.121 --> 00:11:12.955
  • BELIEVE IT'S THE TRUE ANSWEROF THE HUMAN HEART.
  • 00:11:12.955 --> 00:11:13.523
  • OF THE HUMAN HEART.- MATT: I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:11:13.523 --> 00:11:14.090
  • - MATT: I WANT YOU TOCONTINUE WITH THIS.
  • 00:11:14.090 --> 00:11:15.992
  • CONTINUE WITH THIS.BUT IN CASE YOU JUST TUNED
  • 00:11:15.992 --> 00:11:17.660
  • BUT IN CASE YOU JUST TUNEDIN, WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY.
  • 00:11:17.660 --> 00:11:20.730
  • IN, WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY.THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY
  • 00:11:20.730 --> 00:11:21.864
  • THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DAYFOR LAURIE AND I BECAUSE
  • 00:11:21.864 --> 00:11:22.799
  • FOR LAURIE AND I BECAUSEWHAT I THINK--
  • 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.600
  • WHAT I THINK--- LAURIE: I'M NOT USED TO YOU
  • 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.770
  • - LAURIE: I'M NOT USED TO YOUINTERRUPTING THE PODCAST HERE.
  • 00:11:27.770 --> 00:11:28.771
  • INTERRUPTING THE PODCAST HERE.- MATT: I KNOW, I KNOW, YEAH.
  • 00:11:28.771 --> 00:11:29.338
  • - MATT: I KNOW, I KNOW, YEAH.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:29.338 --> 00:11:29.972
  • [LAUGHTER]THE PODCAST USUALLY GOES
  • 00:11:29.972 --> 00:11:30.840
  • THE PODCAST USUALLY GOESUNINTERRUPTED BUT--
  • 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:31.407
  • UNINTERRUPTED BUT--- JON: THIS IS GOOD.
  • 00:11:31.407 --> 00:11:32.675
  • - JON: THIS IS GOOD.I LIKE IT.
  • 00:11:32.675 --> 00:11:33.342
  • I LIKE IT.- MATT: I JUST WANNA SAY
  • 00:11:33.342 --> 00:11:33.943
  • - MATT: I JUST WANNA SAYTHAT JON TYSON PASTORS
  • 00:11:33.943 --> 00:11:36.746
  • THAT JON TYSON PASTORSRIGHT HERE IN NEW YORK CITY,
  • 00:11:36.746 --> 00:11:38.214
  • RIGHT HERE IN NEW YORK CITY,AND WE ARE SUPER-EXCITED
  • 00:11:38.214 --> 00:11:40.483
  • AND WE ARE SUPER-EXCITEDABOUT TODAY BECAUSE WHAT
  • 00:11:40.483 --> 00:11:42.885
  • ABOUT TODAY BECAUSE WHATWE'RE REALLY DISCUSSING
  • 00:11:42.885 --> 00:11:46.322
  • WE'RE REALLY DISCUSSINGIS HOW THE GOOD NEWS
  • 00:11:46.322 --> 00:11:51.728
  • IS HOW THE GOOD NEWSGOT TURNED INTO SOMETHING
  • 00:11:51.728 --> 00:11:52.662
  • GOT TURNED INTO SOMETHINGNOT GOOD NEWS IN
  • 00:11:52.662 --> 00:11:54.297
  • NOT GOOD NEWS INMOST PEOPLE'S MINDS,
  • 00:11:54.297 --> 00:11:55.231
  • MOST PEOPLE'S MINDS,AND SO WE'RE STRAIGHTENING
  • 00:11:55.231 --> 00:11:56.666
  • AND SO WE'RE STRAIGHTENINGTHAT OUT.
  • 00:11:56.666 --> 00:11:57.300
  • THAT OUT.- LAURIE: TURNING IT BACK
  • 00:11:57.300 --> 00:11:58.101
  • - LAURIE: TURNING IT BACKINTO GOOD NEWS.
  • 00:11:58.101 --> 00:11:58.935
  • INTO GOOD NEWS.- MATT: IF YOU DON'T KNOW
  • 00:11:58.935 --> 00:11:59.535
  • - MATT: IF YOU DON'T KNOWJON, FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL
  • 00:11:59.535 --> 00:12:00.903
  • JON, FIRST OF ALL, WE'LLGIVE YOU ALL THE
  • 00:12:00.903 --> 00:12:01.504
  • GIVE YOU ALL THEINFORMATION, BUT WE PUT
  • 00:12:01.504 --> 00:12:03.206
  • INFORMATION, BUT WE PUTTOGETHER A LITTLE BIT OF A
  • 00:12:03.206 --> 00:12:04.273
  • TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT OF AVIDEO PIECE, AND BEFORE WE
  • 00:12:04.273 --> 00:12:05.608
  • VIDEO PIECE, AND BEFORE WEGET INTO THE GUTS OF, KIND
  • 00:12:05.608 --> 00:12:06.642
  • GET INTO THE GUTS OF, KINDOF, WHERE WE'RE GOIN' WITH
  • 00:12:06.642 --> 00:12:07.643
  • OF, WHERE WE'RE GOIN' WITHTHIS, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
  • 00:12:07.643 --> 00:12:08.544
  • THIS, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.THIS IS MORE ABOUT
  • 00:12:08.544 --> 00:12:10.179
  • THIS IS MORE ABOUTJON TYSON.
  • 00:12:10.179 --> 00:12:10.813
  • JON TYSON.- FEMALE ANNOUNCER:
  • 00:12:10.813 --> 00:12:11.380
  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER:CHURCH OF THE CITY NEW
  • 00:12:11.380 --> 00:12:12.448
  • CHURCH OF THE CITY NEWYORK LEAD PASTOR, JON
  • 00:12:12.448 --> 00:12:13.850
  • YORK LEAD PASTOR, JONTYSON, HAS A PASSION TO
  • 00:12:13.850 --> 00:12:14.517
  • TYSON, HAS A PASSION TOSEEK AND CULTIVATE RENEWAL
  • 00:12:14.517 --> 00:12:17.420
  • SEEK AND CULTIVATE RENEWALIN THE WESTERN CHURCH.
  • 00:12:17.420 --> 00:12:17.987
  • IN THE WESTERN CHURCH.WHILE LIVING IN THE
  • 00:12:17.987 --> 00:12:18.721
  • WHILE LIVING IN THEHELL'S KITCHEN
  • 00:12:18.721 --> 00:12:19.422
  • HELL'S KITCHENNEIGHBORHOOD OF MANHATTAN
  • 00:12:19.422 --> 00:12:20.490
  • NEIGHBORHOOD OF MANHATTANWITH HIS WIFE AND TWO
  • 00:12:20.490 --> 00:12:21.023
  • WITH HIS WIFE AND TWOCHILDREN, JON HAS
  • 00:12:21.023 --> 00:12:22.692
  • CHILDREN, JON HASDEDICATED HIS TIME AS A
  • 00:12:22.692 --> 00:12:24.293
  • DEDICATED HIS TIME AS ACHURCH PLANTER IN THE NEW
  • 00:12:24.293 --> 00:12:24.827
  • CHURCH PLANTER IN THE NEWYORK CITY AREA.
  • 00:12:24.827 --> 00:12:26.229
  • YORK CITY AREA.HE IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF
  • 00:12:26.229 --> 00:12:28.397
  • HE IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF"THE BURDEN IS LIGHT,"
  • 00:12:28.397 --> 00:12:29.699
  • "THE BURDEN IS LIGHT,"AND HAS RECENTLY RELEASED HIS
  • 00:12:29.699 --> 00:12:31.134
  • AND HAS RECENTLY RELEASED HISNEW COURSE THE "PRIMAL PATH."
  • 00:12:31.134 --> 00:12:32.602
  • NEW COURSE THE "PRIMAL PATH."PLEASE WELCOME
  • 00:12:32.602 --> 00:12:34.704
  • PLEASE WELCOMEJON TYSON.
  • 00:12:34.704 --> 00:12:37.807
  • JON TYSON.[APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:37.807 --> 00:12:40.042
  • [APPLAUSE]- MATT: "A MISSIONAL LIFE,"
  • 00:12:40.042 --> 00:12:43.146
  • - MATT: "A MISSIONAL LIFE,"OUR MISSIONAL MESSAGE,
  • 00:12:43.146 --> 00:12:44.313
  • OUR MISSIONAL MESSAGE,WE HAVE ADOPTED THAT
  • 00:12:44.313 --> 00:12:45.515
  • WE HAVE ADOPTED THATHERE AT TBN, JON TYSON.
  • 00:12:45.515 --> 00:12:47.917
  • HERE AT TBN, JON TYSON.START GOIN' INTO THE GUTS
  • 00:12:47.917 --> 00:12:49.719
  • START GOIN' INTO THE GUTSOF THIS THING AND TELL US
  • 00:12:49.719 --> 00:12:51.053
  • OF THIS THING AND TELL USTHE GOOD NEWS, REALLY.
  • 00:12:51.053 --> 00:12:52.221
  • THE GOOD NEWS, REALLY.- JON: YEAH, SO I'M
  • 00:12:52.221 --> 00:12:55.758
  • - JON: YEAH, SO I'MBASICALLY TRYIN' TO MAKE
  • 00:12:55.758 --> 00:12:56.392
  • BASICALLY TRYIN' TO MAKETHE CASE THAT WE LIVE IN A
  • 00:12:56.392 --> 00:12:56.993
  • THE CASE THAT WE LIVE IN AWORLD WHERE THERE'S
  • 00:12:56.993 --> 00:12:58.060
  • CONTESTED GOSPELS, AND THE
  • 00:12:59.562 --> 00:13:00.196
  • CONTESTED GOSPELS, AND THECHRISTIANS TOOK THIS TERM
  • 00:13:00.196 --> 00:13:01.197
  • CHRISTIANS TOOK THIS TERMBECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT
  • 00:13:01.197 --> 00:13:01.798
  • BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE ITBEST DESCRIBED WHAT GOD
  • 00:13:01.798 --> 00:13:02.665
  • BEST DESCRIBED WHAT GODHAD DONE IN HUMAN HISTORY
  • 00:13:02.665 --> 00:13:03.633
  • HAD DONE IN HUMAN HISTORYAND THAT, EVEN THOUGH
  • 00:13:03.633 --> 00:13:05.201
  • AND THAT, EVEN THOUGHTHESE OTHER GOSPELS ARE
  • 00:13:05.201 --> 00:13:05.935
  • THESE OTHER GOSPELS ARETRYIN' TO SORT OF DROWN
  • 00:13:05.935 --> 00:13:06.903
  • TRYIN' TO SORT OF DROWNOUT THE TRUE GOSPEL, I
  • 00:13:06.903 --> 00:13:08.237
  • OUT THE TRUE GOSPEL, IBELIEVE THAT, WHEN PEOPLE
  • 00:13:08.237 --> 00:13:09.372
  • BELIEVE THAT, WHEN PEOPLEREALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
  • 00:13:09.372 --> 00:13:12.341
  • REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEGOSPEL IS, THEY RESONATE
  • 00:13:12.341 --> 00:13:13.342
  • GOSPEL IS, THEY RESONATEWITH IT PROFOUNDLY, AND
  • 00:13:13.342 --> 00:13:14.844
  • I THINK THE GOSPEL ANSWERS
  • 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:17.580
  • I THINK THE GOSPEL ANSWERSTHE PRIMAL QUESTION THAT
  • 00:13:17.580 --> 00:13:18.214
  • THE PRIMAL QUESTION THATEVERY HEART IS ACHING TO
  • 00:13:18.214 --> 00:13:19.916
  • EVERY HEART IS ACHING TOANSWER, AND IT'S THIS:
  • 00:13:19.916 --> 00:13:23.219
  • ANSWER, AND IT'S THIS:"DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?
  • 00:13:23.219 --> 00:13:25.521
  • "DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?"
  • 00:13:25.521 --> 00:13:26.222
  • DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?"IF YOU GET BEHIND SO MUCH
  • 00:13:26.222 --> 00:13:27.857
  • IF YOU GET BEHIND SO MUCHOF THE STRIVING, SO MUCH
  • 00:13:27.857 --> 00:13:29.525
  • OF THE STRIVING, SO MUCHOF THE PROVING, SO MUCH OF
  • 00:13:29.525 --> 00:13:30.560
  • OF THE PROVING, SO MUCH OFTHE EFFORT TODAY, SO MUCH
  • 00:13:30.560 --> 00:13:31.894
  • THE EFFORT TODAY, SO MUCHOF THE ACHING FOR
  • 00:13:31.894 --> 00:13:33.296
  • OF THE ACHING FORRECOGNITION AND NOTORIETY,
  • 00:13:33.296 --> 00:13:34.163
  • RECOGNITION AND NOTORIETY,UNDERNEATH IT ALL IS THIS
  • 00:13:34.163 --> 00:13:35.331
  • UNDERNEATH IT ALL IS THISONE QUESTION, IS "DO YOU
  • 00:13:35.331 --> 00:13:36.999
  • ONE QUESTION, IS "DO YOUWANT ME?
  • 00:13:36.999 --> 00:13:37.700
  • WANT ME?AM I WANTED?"
  • 00:13:37.700 --> 00:13:38.968
  • AM I WANTED?"AND THAT'S THE START OF
  • 00:13:38.968 --> 00:13:39.602
  • AND THAT'S THE START OFTHE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL.
  • 00:13:39.602 --> 00:13:40.937
  • THE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL.GENESIS IS TRYING TO MAKE
  • 00:13:40.937 --> 00:13:42.972
  • GENESIS IS TRYING TO MAKETHE CASE THAT THERE'S A
  • 00:13:42.972 --> 00:13:44.340
  • THE CASE THAT THERE'S AGOD IN COMMUNITY WITH
  • 00:13:44.340 --> 00:13:45.341
  • GOD IN COMMUNITY WITHHIMSELF AND THE TRINITY,
  • 00:13:45.341 --> 00:13:47.310
  • HIMSELF AND THE TRINITY,WHO, NOT OUT OF NEED BUT
  • 00:13:47.310 --> 00:13:49.812
  • WHO, NOT OUT OF NEED BUTOUT OF DESIRE, WANTED US
  • 00:13:49.812 --> 00:13:51.514
  • OUT OF DESIRE, WANTED USTO COME INTO HIS STORY,
  • 00:13:51.514 --> 00:13:53.649
  • TO COME INTO HIS STORY,AND SO WE ARE SPECIALLY
  • 00:13:53.649 --> 00:13:55.251
  • AND SO WE ARE SPECIALLYCREATED IN HIS IMAGE IT
  • 00:13:55.251 --> 00:13:56.452
  • CREATED IN HIS IMAGE ITSAYS IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS.
  • 00:13:56.452 --> 00:13:57.687
  • SAYS IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS.WE BEAR HIS IMAGE, AND WE
  • 00:13:57.687 --> 00:13:59.455
  • WE BEAR HIS IMAGE, AND WEARE SEPARATE FROM ALL
  • 00:13:59.455 --> 00:14:00.756
  • ARE SEPARATE FROM ALLOTHER CREATION IN THE FACT
  • 00:14:00.756 --> 00:14:01.791
  • OTHER CREATION IN THE FACTTHAT WE ARE LIKE HIM.
  • 00:14:01.791 --> 00:14:03.759
  • THAT WE ARE LIKE HIM.HE HAS MADE US IN HIS
  • 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:04.760
  • HE HAS MADE US IN HISIMAGE AND HIS LIKENESS.
  • 00:14:04.760 --> 00:14:06.863
  • IMAGE AND HIS LIKENESS.AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ALL
  • 00:14:06.863 --> 00:14:08.631
  • AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ALLTRYING TO FIGURE OUT
  • 00:14:08.631 --> 00:14:09.632
  • TRYING TO FIGURE OUTTODAY: "WHERE DO WE COME FROM?
  • 00:14:09.632 --> 00:14:10.933
  • TODAY: "WHERE DO WE COME FROM?WHY AM I HERE?
  • 00:14:10.933 --> 00:14:12.635
  • WHY AM I HERE?AM I WANTED?"
  • 00:14:12.635 --> 00:14:13.469
  • AM I WANTED?"AND THE BIBLE HAS A
  • 00:14:13.469 --> 00:14:14.704
  • AND THE BIBLE HAS ARESOUNDING ANSWER, AND IT
  • 00:14:14.704 --> 00:14:15.838
  • RESOUNDING ANSWER, AND ITSAYS, "YES, YOU'RE MADE IN
  • 00:14:15.838 --> 00:14:16.973
  • SAYS, "YES, YOU'RE MADE INGOD'S IMAGE, AND HE WANTED
  • 00:14:16.973 --> 00:14:18.074
  • GOD'S IMAGE, AND HE WANTEDYOU TO BE HERE.
  • 00:14:18.074 --> 00:14:19.709
  • YOU TO BE HERE.NOW, THIS IS UNIQUE FOR
  • 00:14:19.709 --> 00:14:21.177
  • NOW, THIS IS UNIQUE FORTWO REASONS BECAUSE WE
  • 00:14:21.177 --> 00:14:21.777
  • TWO REASONS BECAUSE WELIVE IN A SOCIETY TODAY
  • 00:14:21.777 --> 00:14:22.979
  • LIVE IN A SOCIETY TODAYTHAT IS OBSESSED WITH
  • 00:14:22.979 --> 00:14:24.247
  • THAT IS OBSESSED WITHHUMAN RIGHTS.
  • 00:14:24.247 --> 00:14:24.981
  • HUMAN RIGHTS.THE U.N., WHICH IS RIGHT
  • 00:14:24.981 --> 00:14:25.815
  • THE U.N., WHICH IS RIGHTHERE IN OUR CITY, NOT TOO
  • 00:14:25.815 --> 00:14:27.016
  • HERE IN OUR CITY, NOT TOOFAR FROM HERE, HAS THE,
  • 00:14:27.016 --> 00:14:28.084
  • FAR FROM HERE, HAS THE,YOU KNOW, THE U.N. CHARTER
  • 00:14:28.084 --> 00:14:29.151
  • YOU KNOW, THE U.N. CHARTERON HUMAN RIGHTS,
  • 00:14:29.151 --> 00:14:31.354
  • ON HUMAN RIGHTS,AND IT HAS A VISION TO
  • 00:14:31.354 --> 00:14:33.656
  • AND IT HAS A VISION TOELEVATE THE WORTH AND
  • 00:14:33.656 --> 00:14:35.491
  • ELEVATE THE WORTH ANDSIGNIFICANCE OF HUMAN
  • 00:14:35.491 --> 00:14:36.459
  • SIGNIFICANCE OF HUMANBEINGS, BUT IF WE'RE JUST
  • 00:14:36.459 --> 00:14:37.960
  • BEINGS, BUT IF WE'RE JUSTACCIDENTS WHO CAME FROM
  • 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:38.928
  • ACCIDENTS WHO CAME FROMNOWHERE, HOW ARE WE SO
  • 00:14:38.928 --> 00:14:40.963
  • NOWHERE, HOW ARE WE SOSPECIAL?
  • 00:14:40.963 --> 00:14:41.931
  • SPECIAL?THIS IS SORT OF LIKE A
  • 00:14:41.931 --> 00:14:43.199
  • THIS IS SORT OF LIKE AFORM OF NARCISSISM.
  • 00:14:43.199 --> 00:14:44.400
  • FORM OF NARCISSISM.WE'RE NOT REALLY-- WE'RE
  • 00:14:44.400 --> 00:14:45.301
  • WE'RE NOT REALLY-- WE'REJUST INVENTING IT.
  • 00:14:45.301 --> 00:14:47.370
  • JUST INVENTING IT.BUT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE
  • 00:14:47.370 --> 00:14:48.604
  • BUT CHRISTIANS BELIEVETHIS: CHRISTIANS BELIEVE
  • 00:14:48.604 --> 00:14:49.472
  • THIS: CHRISTIANS BELIEVE"WE ARE WANTED BECAUSE WE
  • 00:14:49.472 --> 00:14:50.606
  • "WE ARE WANTED BECAUSE WEBEAR THE IMAGE OF GOD."
  • 00:14:50.606 --> 00:14:51.607
  • BEAR THE IMAGE OF GOD."WE'RE NOT HERE BY ACCIDENT.
  • 00:14:51.607 --> 00:14:53.342
  • WE'RE NOT HERE BY ACCIDENT.WE'RE HERE BY CREATION,
  • 00:14:53.342 --> 00:14:53.910
  • WE'RE HERE BY CREATION,SPECIAL CREATION.
  • 00:14:53.910 --> 00:14:54.977
  • SPECIAL CREATION.WE'RE HERE BY DESIGN.
  • 00:14:54.977 --> 00:14:57.079
  • WE'RE HERE BY DESIGN.WE'RE HERE TO BEAR HIS IMAGE.
  • 00:14:57.079 --> 00:14:58.915
  • WE'RE HERE TO BEAR HIS IMAGE.AND WE MAY BE SO FAMILIAR
  • 00:14:58.915 --> 00:15:01.784
  • AND WE MAY BE SO FAMILIARWITH THESE IDEAS, BUT WHEN
  • 00:15:01.784 --> 00:15:02.351
  • WITH THESE IDEAS, BUT WHENTHE GOSPEL CAME IN THE
  • 00:15:02.351 --> 00:15:04.186
  • THE GOSPEL CAME IN THEANCIENT ERAS,
  • 00:15:04.186 --> 00:15:05.922
  • ANCIENT ERAS,IT WAS A REVOLUTION.
  • 00:15:05.922 --> 00:15:06.422
  • IT WAS A REVOLUTION.ALMOST EVERY OTHER
  • 00:15:06.422 --> 00:15:08.124
  • ALMOST EVERY OTHERCREATION STORY BASICALLY
  • 00:15:08.124 --> 00:15:09.091
  • CREATION STORY BASICALLYTOLD STORIES OF GODS FIGHTING.
  • 00:15:09.091 --> 00:15:11.294
  • TOLD STORIES OF GODS FIGHTING.THERE WERE STORIES,
  • 00:15:11.294 --> 00:15:12.862
  • THERE WERE STORIES,BASICALLY, OF BLOODY
  • 00:15:12.862 --> 00:15:14.430
  • BASICALLY, OF BLOODYSEXUAL CONFLICT, AND SO
  • 00:15:14.430 --> 00:15:15.498
  • SEXUAL CONFLICT, AND SOYOU READ SOME OF THESE
  • 00:15:15.498 --> 00:15:18.634
  • YOU READ SOME OF THESEANCIENT CREATION ACCOUNTS,
  • 00:15:18.634 --> 00:15:19.735
  • ANCIENT CREATION ACCOUNTS,AND THE CHRISTIAN STORY,
  • 00:15:19.735 --> 00:15:20.536
  • AND THE CHRISTIAN STORY,IN MANY WAYS, IS VERY,
  • 00:15:20.536 --> 00:15:21.170
  • IN MANY WAYS, IS VERY,VERY DIFFERENT.
  • 00:15:21.170 --> 00:15:22.038
  • VERY DIFFERENT.SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MANY OF
  • 00:15:22.038 --> 00:15:22.838
  • SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MANY OFTHESE ACCOUNTS, ONLY THE
  • 00:15:22.838 --> 00:15:25.074
  • THESE ACCOUNTS, ONLY THECULTURAL ELITES AND THE
  • 00:15:25.074 --> 00:15:27.243
  • CULTURAL ELITES AND THEROYALS BORE THE IMAGE OF
  • 00:15:27.243 --> 00:15:28.411
  • ROYALS BORE THE IMAGE OFGOD, AND EVERYBODY ELSE
  • 00:15:28.411 --> 00:15:29.779
  • GOD, AND EVERYBODY ELSEWAS TREATED BASICALLY LIKE
  • 00:15:29.779 --> 00:15:31.080
  • WAS TREATED BASICALLY LIKESLAVES TO SERVE THEM, AND
  • 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.082
  • SLAVES TO SERVE THEM, ANDSO THEY WOULD PUT UP THESE
  • 00:15:33.082 --> 00:15:34.517
  • SO THEY WOULD PUT UP THESEICONS, THESE STATUES OF
  • 00:15:34.517 --> 00:15:36.152
  • ICONS, THESE STATUES OFROYALTY SO THAT THE IMAGE
  • 00:15:36.152 --> 00:15:37.119
  • ROYALTY SO THAT THE IMAGEOF GOD WOULD BE
  • 00:15:37.119 --> 00:15:38.454
  • OF GOD WOULD BEREPRESENTED EVERYWHERE.
  • 00:15:38.454 --> 00:15:40.356
  • REPRESENTED EVERYWHERE.NOW, IMAGINE HOW THE
  • 00:15:40.356 --> 00:15:41.057
  • NOW, IMAGINE HOW THEJEWISH COMMUNITY FELT WHEN
  • 00:15:41.057 --> 00:15:42.191
  • JEWISH COMMUNITY FELT WHENTHEY REALIZED EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:15:42.191 --> 00:15:43.125
  • THEY REALIZED EVERY SINGLEONE OF US ON EARTH BEARS
  • 00:15:43.125 --> 00:15:44.660
  • ONE OF US ON EARTH BEARSTHE IMAGE OF GOD?
  • 00:15:44.660 --> 00:15:45.728
  • THE IMAGE OF GOD?SO THE GOSPEL TELLS US OF
  • 00:15:45.728 --> 00:15:46.896
  • SO THE GOSPEL TELLS US OFOUR SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE
  • 00:15:46.896 --> 00:15:48.364
  • OUR SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSEWE'RE CREATED FOR HIM, AND
  • 00:15:48.364 --> 00:15:50.166
  • WE'RE CREATED FOR HIM, ANDWE'RE CREATED BY HIM, AND
  • 00:15:50.166 --> 00:15:53.903
  • WE'RE CREATED BY HIM, ANDTHAT, TO ME, MAKES SO MUCH
  • 00:15:53.903 --> 00:15:54.570
  • THAT, TO ME, MAKES SO MUCHSENSE OF THE WORLD WE
  • 00:15:54.570 --> 00:15:56.472
  • PEOPLE ARE TRYIN' TO KNOW,
  • 00:15:57.707 --> 00:15:58.307
  • PEOPLE ARE TRYIN' TO KNOW,"DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?
  • 00:15:58.307 --> 00:15:58.774
  • "DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?WHY AM I HERE?"
  • 00:15:58.774 --> 00:15:59.375
  • WHY AM I HERE?"AND THE GOSPEL HAS THIS
  • 00:15:59.375 --> 00:16:00.743
  • AND THE GOSPEL HAS THISRESOUNDING ANSWER.
  • 00:16:00.743 --> 00:16:03.145
  • RESOUNDING ANSWER.IT SAYS, "YES, WE ARE MADE
  • 00:16:03.145 --> 00:16:04.113
  • SECOND THING THE GOSPEL IS
  • 00:16:05.848 --> 00:16:07.216
  • SECOND THING THE GOSPEL ISTRYING TO ADDRESS,
  • 00:16:07.216 --> 00:16:07.750
  • TRYING TO ADDRESS,WHICH I THINK IS
  • 00:16:07.750 --> 00:16:08.985
  • WHICH I THINK ISTHE DEEPEST FEAR OF THE
  • 00:16:08.985 --> 00:16:11.020
  • THE DEEPEST FEAR OF THEHUMAN HEART, IS THIS:
  • 00:16:11.020 --> 00:16:12.388
  • HUMAN HEART, IS THIS:"DOES ANYBODY WANT ME IF
  • 00:16:12.388 --> 00:16:13.255
  • "DOES ANYBODY WANT ME IFTHEY KNOW THE BAD THINGS
  • 00:16:13.255 --> 00:16:15.624
  • THEY KNOW THE BAD THINGSI'VE REALLY DONE?"
  • 00:16:15.624 --> 00:16:16.258
  • I'VE REALLY DONE?"AND THIS IS ABOUT THE FEAR
  • 00:16:16.258 --> 00:16:17.693
  • AND THIS IS ABOUT THE FEAROF REJECTION.
  • 00:16:17.693 --> 00:16:19.662
  • OF REJECTION.CHRISTIANS CALL THIS "SIN,"
  • 00:16:19.662 --> 00:16:20.363
  • CHRISTIANS CALL THIS "SIN,"WHEN THIS IS THE SECOND PART
  • 00:16:20.363 --> 00:16:21.397
  • WHEN THIS IS THE SECOND PARTOF GENESIS,
  • 00:16:21.397 --> 00:16:22.798
  • OF GENESIS,WHERE WE TALK ABOUT
  • 00:16:22.798 --> 00:16:24.533
  • WHERE WE TALK ABOUT"THE FALL," AND THIS IS HOW
  • 00:16:24.533 --> 00:16:25.201
  • "THE FALL," AND THIS IS HOWWE GOT SEPARATED FROM GOD.
  • 00:16:25.201 --> 00:16:26.235
  • WE GOT SEPARATED FROM GOD."WILL ANYBODY WANT ME IF
  • 00:16:26.235 --> 00:16:27.069
  • "WILL ANYBODY WANT ME IFTHEY KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE?"
  • 00:16:27.069 --> 00:16:28.170
  • THEY KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE?"NOW, WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
  • 00:16:28.170 --> 00:16:29.171
  • NOW, WE LIVE IN A SOCIETYTODAY THAT DOESN'T TALK
  • 00:16:29.171 --> 00:16:30.039
  • TODAY THAT DOESN'T TALKABOUT SIN VERY MUCH, AND
  • 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:31.374
  • ABOUT SIN VERY MUCH, ANDIF WE DO TALK ABOUT SIN,
  • 00:16:31.374 --> 00:16:32.808
  • IF WE DO TALK ABOUT SIN,WE KIND OF-- WE MAKE IT
  • 00:16:32.808 --> 00:16:34.443
  • WE KIND OF-- WE MAKE ITSORT OF CHEEKY.
  • 00:16:34.443 --> 00:16:35.244
  • SORT OF CHEEKY.IT'S NOT SERIOUS.
  • 00:16:35.244 --> 00:16:36.645
  • IT'S NOT SERIOUS.IT'S LIKE, "YOU KNOW, GO
  • 00:16:36.645 --> 00:16:37.813
  • IT'S LIKE, "YOU KNOW, GOON, YOU CAN SIN AND HAVE A
  • 00:16:37.813 --> 00:16:38.948
  • ON, YOU CAN SIN AND HAVE APIECE OF CHOCOLATE," WHEN
  • 00:16:38.948 --> 00:16:39.648
  • PIECE OF CHOCOLATE," WHENYOU'RE DOING KETO OR
  • 00:16:39.648 --> 00:16:40.783
  • YOU'RE DOING KETO ORSOMETHING, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:40.783 --> 00:16:41.417
  • SOMETHING, YOU KNOW?WE SORT OF MAKE IT VERY
  • 00:16:41.417 --> 00:16:42.651
  • WE SORT OF MAKE IT VERYLIGHT, BUT SIN IS LIKE THE
  • 00:16:42.651 --> 00:16:44.387
  • LIGHT, BUT SIN IS LIKE THEHORRIBLE REALITY OF
  • 00:16:44.387 --> 00:16:46.522
  • HORRIBLE REALITY OFEVERYTHING WRONG IN OUR
  • 00:16:46.522 --> 00:16:47.390
  • EVERYTHING WRONG IN OURWORLD TODAY.
  • 00:16:47.390 --> 00:16:48.090
  • WORLD TODAY.IT'S PERSONAL.
  • 00:16:48.090 --> 00:16:49.025
  • IT'S PERSONAL.WE FEEL IT IN OUR SOULS.
  • 00:16:49.025 --> 00:16:50.860
  • WE FEEL IT IN OUR SOULS.WE FEEL GUILT THAT WE'RE
  • 00:16:50.860 --> 00:16:51.761
  • WE FEEL GUILT THAT WE'RESEPARATED FROM GOD AND
  • 00:16:51.761 --> 00:16:52.828
  • SEPARATED FROM GOD ANDWE'VE SINNED AGAINST HIM.
  • 00:16:52.828 --> 00:16:53.996
  • WE'VE SINNED AGAINST HIM.WE FEEL SHAME, MEANING
  • 00:16:53.996 --> 00:16:55.865
  • WE FEEL SHAME, MEANINGTHESE CHOICES TO REBEL
  • 00:16:55.865 --> 00:16:56.999
  • THESE CHOICES TO REBELAGAINST GOD IMPACT WHO WE
  • 00:16:56.999 --> 00:16:58.267
  • AGAINST GOD IMPACT WHO WEARE.
  • 00:16:58.267 --> 00:16:58.934
  • ARE.WE'VE GOT THIS SENSE OF S
  • 00:16:58.934 --> 00:17:01.237
  • WE'VE GOT THIS SENSE OF SDIS-EASE, NOT THAT WE'VE
  • 00:17:01.237 --> 00:17:02.271
  • DIS-EASE, NOT THAT WE'VEJUST FALLEN SHORT AND
  • 00:17:02.271 --> 00:17:03.339
  • JUST FALLEN SHORT ANDCOMMITTED, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:17:03.339 --> 00:17:04.440
  • COMMITTED, YOU KNOW,OFFENSES AGAINST GOD, BUT
  • 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:05.241
  • OFFENSES AGAINST GOD, BUTIT'S AFFECTED US IN SOME
  • 00:17:05.241 --> 00:17:06.208
  • IT'S AFFECTED US IN SOMEPROFOUND WAY.
  • 00:17:06.208 --> 00:17:08.110
  • PROFOUND WAY.AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO
  • 00:17:08.110 --> 00:17:09.278
  • AND SO WE'RE TRYING TOMAKE UP FOR THAT.
  • 00:17:09.278 --> 00:17:10.579
  • MAKE UP FOR THAT.THE BIBLE ACTUALLY HAS ALL
  • 00:17:10.579 --> 00:17:12.281
  • THE BIBLE ACTUALLY HAS ALLOF THESE DIFFERENT WORDS
  • 00:17:12.281 --> 00:17:13.482
  • OF THESE DIFFERENT WORDSTO EXPLAIN WHAT SIN IS.
  • 00:17:13.482 --> 00:17:14.150
  • TO EXPLAIN WHAT SIN IS.IT'S LIKE A NUANCED
  • 00:17:14.150 --> 00:17:16.218
  • IT'S LIKE A NUANCEDCONCEPT, AND THE REASON I
  • 00:17:16.218 --> 00:17:16.952
  • CONCEPT, AND THE REASON ITHINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
  • 00:17:16.952 --> 00:17:18.487
  • THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TOTALK ABOUT SIN IS BECAUSE,
  • 00:17:18.487 --> 00:17:20.156
  • TALK ABOUT SIN IS BECAUSE,EVEN IF YOU TAKE AWAY
  • 00:17:20.156 --> 00:17:20.689
  • EVEN IF YOU TAKE AWAY"SIN" FROM OUR WORLD
  • 00:17:20.689 --> 00:17:22.291
  • "SIN" FROM OUR WORLDTODAY, THE WORD, WE'RE
  • 00:17:22.291 --> 00:17:23.292
  • TODAY, THE WORD, WE'RESTILL LEFT FEELING THE
  • 00:17:23.292 --> 00:17:25.094
  • STILL LEFT FEELING THEEFFECTS OF IT.
  • 00:17:25.094 --> 00:17:25.628
  • EFFECTS OF IT.- LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:17:25.628 --> 00:17:27.096
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.- JON: AND WHEN YOU'RE
  • 00:17:27.096 --> 00:17:27.696
  • - JON: AND WHEN YOU'REABLE TO NAME WHAT "SIN"
  • 00:17:27.696 --> 00:17:28.297
  • ABLE TO NAME WHAT "SIN"IS, YOU GET EXPLANATORY
  • 00:17:28.297 --> 00:17:30.066
  • IS, YOU GET EXPLANATORYPOWER FOR WHAT IT IS
  • 00:17:30.066 --> 00:17:31.834
  • POWER FOR WHAT IT ISYOU'RE FEELING.
  • 00:17:31.834 --> 00:17:32.501
  • YOU'RE FEELING.WHEN SOMEONE CAN SAY,
  • 00:17:32.501 --> 00:17:33.335
  • WHEN SOMEONE CAN SAY,"IT'S LIKE GOING TO A
  • 00:17:33.335 --> 00:17:34.537
  • "IT'S LIKE GOING TO ADOCTOR, AND THEY CAN'T
  • 00:17:34.537 --> 00:17:35.471
  • DOCTOR, AND THEY CAN'TDIAGNOSE IT," AND THEN
  • 00:17:35.471 --> 00:17:36.972
  • DIAGNOSE IT," AND THENWHEN SOMEONE SAYS, "AHA,
  • 00:17:36.972 --> 00:17:37.773
  • WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, "AHA,IT'S THIS." YOU'RE LIKE,
  • 00:17:37.773 --> 00:17:39.141
  • IT'S THIS." YOU'RE LIKE,"WHAT'S THE CURE?"
  • 00:17:39.141 --> 00:17:39.742
  • "WHAT'S THE CURE?"SO WHEN CHRISTIANS TALK
  • 00:17:39.742 --> 00:17:41.110
  • SO WHEN CHRISTIANS TALKABOUT SIN AND SEPARATION
  • 00:17:41.110 --> 00:17:41.811
  • ABOUT SIN AND SEPARATIONFROM GOD, IT'S A
  • 00:17:41.811 --> 00:17:42.645
  • FROM GOD, IT'S ADIAGNOSTIC TOOL FOR OUR
  • 00:17:42.645 --> 00:17:44.046
  • DIAGNOSTIC TOOL FOR OURSENSE OF ANGST AND
  • 00:17:44.046 --> 00:17:45.848
  • SENSE OF ANGST ANDDIS-EASE, AND MANY PEOPLE
  • 00:17:45.848 --> 00:17:47.850
  • DIS-EASE, AND MANY PEOPLETODAY DON'T KNOW HOW TO
  • 00:17:47.850 --> 00:17:48.551
  • TODAY DON'T KNOW HOW TODEAL WITH THEIR SIN.
  • 00:17:48.551 --> 00:17:49.585
  • DEAL WITH THEIR SIN.THEY DON'T HAVE AN
  • 00:17:49.585 --> 00:17:51.153
  • THEY DON'T HAVE ANUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TO
  • 00:17:51.153 --> 00:17:52.755
  • UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TODO ABOUT IT, AND SO THEY
  • 00:17:52.755 --> 00:17:53.389
  • DO ABOUT IT, AND SO THEYDO WHAT ADAM AND EVE DID.
  • 00:17:53.389 --> 00:17:53.889
  • DO WHAT ADAM AND EVE DID.THEY TRY AND COVER
  • 00:17:53.889 --> 00:17:54.790
  • THEY TRY AND COVERTHEMSELVES UP, AND SO THEY
  • 00:17:54.790 --> 00:17:57.093
  • THEMSELVES UP, AND SO THEYHAVE A GOSPEL BASICALLY OF
  • 00:17:57.093 --> 00:17:59.528
  • HAVE A GOSPEL BASICALLY OFAN ATTEMPTED
  • 00:17:59.528 --> 00:18:00.796
  • AN ATTEMPTEDSELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  • 00:18:00.796 --> 00:18:02.064
  • SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.IF YOU THINK ABOUT MOST OF
  • 00:18:02.064 --> 00:18:02.998
  • IF YOU THINK ABOUT MOST OFOUR MODERN LIFE TODAY, IT
  • 00:18:02.998 --> 00:18:05.901
  • OUR MODERN LIFE TODAY, ITIS PRETENDING AND
  • 00:18:05.901 --> 00:18:06.936
  • IS PRETENDING ANDCOVERING.
  • 00:18:06.936 --> 00:18:07.536
  • COVERING.WHAT IS MOST OF OUR
  • 00:18:07.536 --> 00:18:09.905
  • WHAT IS MOST OF OUREDUCATION SYSTEM?
  • 00:18:09.905 --> 00:18:10.840
  • EDUCATION SYSTEM?YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?
  • 00:18:10.840 --> 00:18:11.407
  • YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?IT'S PRETENDING TO BE
  • 00:18:11.407 --> 00:18:13.175
  • IT'S PRETENDING TO BESTUDYING.
  • 00:18:13.175 --> 00:18:14.310
  • STUDYING.WHEN YOU'RE A KID, YOU'RE
  • 00:18:14.310 --> 00:18:16.245
  • WHEN YOU'RE A KID, YOU'REJUST, LIKE, CRAMMING THE
  • 00:18:16.245 --> 00:18:16.979
  • JUST, LIKE, CRAMMING THENIGHT BEFORE, AND, YOU
  • 00:18:16.979 --> 00:18:17.813
  • NIGHT BEFORE, AND, YOUKNOW, MOST PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:18:17.813 --> 00:18:18.714
  • KNOW, MOST PEOPLE AREUSING SPARKNOTES.
  • 00:18:18.714 --> 00:18:19.181
  • USING SPARKNOTES.NOBODY'S READING
  • 00:18:19.181 --> 00:18:20.916
  • NOBODY'S READINGDOSTOYEVSKY OR THE ROMAN
  • 00:18:20.916 --> 00:18:23.686
  • DOSTOYEVSKY OR THE ROMANCLASSICS.
  • 00:18:23.686 --> 00:18:24.320
  • CLASSICS.YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST USING
  • 00:18:24.320 --> 00:18:24.820
  • YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST USINGSPARKNOTES.
  • 00:18:24.820 --> 00:18:25.354
  • SPARKNOTES.WE'RE TRYING TO GET
  • 00:18:25.354 --> 00:18:26.288
  • WE'RE TRYING TO GETTHROUGH OUR DEGREES.
  • 00:18:26.288 --> 00:18:27.323
  • THROUGH OUR DEGREES.WHAT IS A RESUME?
  • 00:18:27.323 --> 00:18:28.290
  • WHAT IS A RESUME?A RESUME IS AN ATTEMPT TO,
  • 00:18:28.290 --> 00:18:28.991
  • A RESUME IS AN ATTEMPT TO,SORT OF, COVER OUR
  • 00:18:28.991 --> 00:18:30.359
  • SORT OF, COVER OURINADEQUACIES AND PUT
  • 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:31.293
  • INADEQUACIES AND PUTOURSELVES FORWARD IN THE
  • 00:18:31.293 --> 00:18:32.161
  • OURSELVES FORWARD IN THEUNIVERSE.
  • 00:18:32.161 --> 00:18:33.229
  • UNIVERSE.WHAT IS DATING?
  • 00:18:33.229 --> 00:18:34.163
  • WHAT IS DATING?DATING IS YOU'RE
  • 00:18:34.163 --> 00:18:35.064
  • DATING IS YOU'REPRETENDING TO BE BETTER
  • 00:18:35.064 --> 00:18:36.098
  • PRETENDING TO BE BETTERTHAN YOU ARE SO YOU CAN
  • 00:18:36.098 --> 00:18:37.733
  • THAN YOU ARE SO YOU CANLOCK SOMEONE IN
  • 00:18:37.733 --> 00:18:40.102
  • LOCK SOMEONE INRELATIONALLY AND THEN--
  • 00:18:40.102 --> 00:18:40.636
  • RELATIONALLY AND THEN--- MATT: IT WORKED.
  • 00:18:40.636 --> 00:18:41.437
  • - MATT: IT WORKED.- JON: IT WORKED?
  • 00:18:41.437 --> 00:18:42.338
  • - JON: IT WORKED?CONGRATULATIONS.
  • 00:18:42.338 --> 00:18:42.838
  • CONGRATULATIONS.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:42.838 --> 00:18:43.839
  • [LAUGHTER]AND THEN SLOWLY, OVER THE
  • 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:45.007
  • AND THEN SLOWLY, OVER THECOURSE OF TIME, YOU'RE
  • 00:18:45.007 --> 00:18:47.409
  • COURSE OF TIME, YOU'REEXPOSED, AND SO THIS IS
  • 00:18:47.409 --> 00:18:49.278
  • EXPOSED, AND SO THIS ISMOST OF OUR MODERN LIFE.
  • 00:18:49.278 --> 00:18:49.879
  • MOST OF OUR MODERN LIFE.IT IS AN ATTEMPT IN OUR
  • 00:18:49.879 --> 00:18:51.147
  • IT IS AN ATTEMPT IN OUROWN HEARTS TO, SORT OF,
  • 00:18:51.147 --> 00:18:52.882
  • OWN HEARTS TO, SORT OF,COVER AND PRETEND, AND SO
  • 00:18:52.882 --> 00:18:54.717
  • COVER AND PRETEND, AND SOWE SEE THIS IN EVERY AREA
  • 00:18:54.717 --> 00:18:55.317
  • WE SEE THIS IN EVERY AREAOF OUR SOCIETY.
  • 00:18:55.317 --> 00:18:56.785
  • OF OUR SOCIETY.WE FEEL A SENSE OF
  • 00:18:56.785 --> 00:18:59.755
  • NOW, ONE THING THAT I
  • 00:19:00.990 --> 00:19:02.424
  • NOW, ONE THING THAT ITHINK IS INTERESTING ABOUT
  • 00:19:02.424 --> 00:19:03.359
  • THINK IS INTERESTING ABOUTTHE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL
  • 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:03.926
  • THE CHRISTIAN GOSPELTHAT'S DIFFERENT THAN
  • 00:19:03.926 --> 00:19:04.627
  • THAT'S DIFFERENT THANTHESE OTHER GOSPEL STORIES
  • 00:19:04.627 --> 00:19:05.461
  • THESE OTHER GOSPEL STORIESIS THAT CHRISTIANITY IS
  • 00:19:05.461 --> 00:19:07.096
  • IS THAT CHRISTIANITY ISNOT SAYING, "HERE'S A
  • 00:19:07.096 --> 00:19:09.565
  • NOT SAYING, "HERE'S APATHWAY OF ALL OF THE
  • 00:19:09.565 --> 00:19:12.601
  • PATHWAY OF ALL OF THERULES THAT THE BIBLE
  • 00:19:12.601 --> 00:19:13.169
  • RULES THAT THE BIBLETEACHES FOR YOU TO BE
  • 00:19:13.169 --> 00:19:14.537
  • TEACHES FOR YOU TO BERIGHT WITH GOD."
  • 00:19:14.537 --> 00:19:15.271
  • RIGHT WITH GOD."THE GOSPEL ISN'T HERE TO
  • 00:19:15.271 --> 00:19:17.740
  • THE GOSPEL ISN'T HERE TOMAKE BAD PEOPLE GOOD.
  • 00:19:17.740 --> 00:19:20.042
  • MAKE BAD PEOPLE GOOD.THE GOSPEL IS HERE TO MAKE
  • 00:19:20.042 --> 00:19:20.876
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:19:21.977 --> 00:19:22.645
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.- JON: THAT IS THE WONDER
  • 00:19:22.645 --> 00:19:23.078
  • - JON: THAT IS THE WONDEROF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:19:23.078 --> 00:19:24.213
  • OF THE GOSPEL.SO, AS A HUMAN BEING, IN
  • 00:19:24.213 --> 00:19:26.115
  • SO, AS A HUMAN BEING, INOUR MULTIFACETED BEING, WE
  • 00:19:26.115 --> 00:19:27.483
  • OUR MULTIFACETED BEING, WEBASICALLY WOULD HAVE A
  • 00:19:27.483 --> 00:19:28.384
  • BASICALLY WOULD HAVE ASPIRIT AND A SOUL AND A
  • 00:19:28.384 --> 00:19:30.319
  • SPIRIT AND A SOUL AND ABODY, AND THIS IS HOW WE
  • 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:30.920
  • BODY, AND THIS IS HOW WESORT OF GET OUR SENSE OF
  • 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:32.121
  • SORT OF GET OUR SENSE OFBEING IN THE WORLD,
  • 00:19:32.121 --> 00:19:33.322
  • BEING IN THE WORLD,RELATING TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:19:33.322 --> 00:19:34.857
  • RELATING TO PEOPLE.OUR SPIRIT IS WHERE WE GET A
  • 00:19:34.857 --> 00:19:36.058
  • OUR SPIRIT IS WHERE WE GET ASENSE OF CONNECTION WITH GOD.
  • 00:19:36.058 --> 00:19:37.493
  • SENSE OF CONNECTION WITH GOD.OUR EMOTIONS IS WHERE WE
  • 00:19:37.493 --> 00:19:38.761
  • OUR EMOTIONS IS WHERE WEGET OUR EMOTIONAL SENSE,
  • 00:19:38.761 --> 00:19:40.162
  • GET OUR EMOTIONAL SENSE,AND OUR BODIES IS WHERE WE
  • 00:19:40.162 --> 00:19:40.963
  • AND OUR BODIES IS WHERE WEGET OUR PHYSICAL SENSE.
  • 00:19:40.963 --> 00:19:42.698
  • GET OUR PHYSICAL SENSE.AND SO WE WERE CREATED
  • 00:19:42.698 --> 00:19:43.465
  • AND SO WE WERE CREATEDWITH A SPIRIT TO COMMUNION
  • 00:19:43.465 --> 00:19:44.633
  • WITH A SPIRIT TO COMMUNIONWITH GOD.
  • 00:19:44.633 --> 00:19:45.234
  • WITH GOD.WHEN WE SINNED AND FELL,
  • 00:19:45.234 --> 00:19:46.602
  • WHEN WE SINNED AND FELL,THAT DIED.
  • 00:19:46.602 --> 00:19:48.137
  • THAT DIED.AND SO NOW MOST OF OUR
  • 00:19:48.137 --> 00:19:49.305
  • AND SO NOW MOST OF OURLIVES-- THIS IS THE
  • 00:19:49.305 --> 00:19:50.339
  • LIVES-- THIS IS THECONSEQUENCE OF SIN--
  • 00:19:50.339 --> 00:19:52.441
  • CONSEQUENCE OF SIN--OUR LIVES ARE DRIVEN BY OUR
  • 00:19:52.441 --> 00:19:53.008
  • OUR LIVES ARE DRIVEN BY OURBODIES, WHAT WE WANT,
  • 00:19:53.008 --> 00:19:56.045
  • BODIES, WHAT WE WANT,RAW DESIRE, AND OUR EMOTIONS,
  • 00:19:56.045 --> 00:19:56.512
  • RAW DESIRE, AND OUR EMOTIONS,HOW WE FEEL.
  • 00:19:56.512 --> 00:19:57.613
  • HOW WE FEEL.AND IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF
  • 00:19:57.613 --> 00:19:58.480
  • AND IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OFSOCIETY, IT IS BASICALLY
  • 00:19:58.480 --> 00:19:59.615
  • SOCIETY, IT IS BASICALLYPEOPLE TRYING TO GET WHAT
  • 00:19:59.615 --> 00:20:01.050
  • PEOPLE TRYING TO GET WHATTHEY WANT AND WHAT THEY
  • 00:20:01.050 --> 00:20:02.751
  • THEY WANT AND WHAT THEYFEEL, DONE IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:20:02.751 --> 00:20:04.587
  • FEEL, DONE IN THE WORLD.AND THEY DON'T HAVE A
  • 00:20:04.587 --> 00:20:05.721
  • AND THEY DON'T HAVE AMECHANISM TO, SORT OF,
  • 00:20:05.721 --> 00:20:06.789
  • MECHANISM TO, SORT OF,RESTRAIN OR REDIRECT THEIR
  • 00:20:06.789 --> 00:20:07.823
  • RESTRAIN OR REDIRECT THEIRDISORDERED LOVES AND
  • 00:20:07.823 --> 00:20:09.458
  • DISORDERED LOVES ANDAFFECTIONS.
  • 00:20:09.458 --> 00:20:10.392
  • AFFECTIONS.AND SO OUR SOCIETY IS IN
  • 00:20:10.392 --> 00:20:12.294
  • AND SO OUR SOCIETY IS INTOTAL MORAL CHAOS AS WE'RE
  • 00:20:12.294 --> 00:20:13.162
  • TOTAL MORAL CHAOS AS WE'REJUST DRIVEN BY WHAT IS
  • 00:20:13.162 --> 00:20:14.930
  • JUST DRIVEN BY WHAT ISBASICALLY CALLED
  • 00:20:14.930 --> 00:20:17.466
  • BASICALLY CALLED"THE FLESH," BODILY DESIRES.
  • 00:20:17.466 --> 00:20:18.267
  • "THE FLESH," BODILY DESIRES.AND SO THE GOSPEL COMES,
  • 00:20:18.267 --> 00:20:18.834
  • AND SO THE GOSPEL COMES,THIS ANNOUNCEMENT,
  • 00:20:18.834 --> 00:20:22.871
  • THIS ANNOUNCEMENT,WHICH IS PART THREE, WHICH IS
  • 00:20:22.871 --> 00:20:24.273
  • WHICH IS PART THREE, WHICH IS"CAN ANYBODY, EVEN THOUGH
  • 00:20:24.273 --> 00:20:25.474
  • "CAN ANYBODY, EVEN THOUGHTHEY KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE,
  • 00:20:25.474 --> 00:20:27.610
  • THEY KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE,CAN ANYBODY CHANGE ME?
  • 00:20:27.610 --> 00:20:28.711
  • CAN ANYBODY CHANGE ME?CAN ANYBODY CHANGE ME?"
  • 00:20:28.711 --> 00:20:30.012
  • CAN ANYBODY CHANGE ME?"AND SO THE GOSPEL COMES
  • 00:20:30.012 --> 00:20:31.413
  • AND SO THE GOSPEL COMESIN, AND IT SAYS, "YES,
  • 00:20:31.413 --> 00:20:33.115
  • IN, AND IT SAYS, "YES,CHANGE IS NOT MORAL EFFORT.
  • 00:20:33.115 --> 00:20:35.451
  • CHANGE IS NOT MORAL EFFORT.IT'S NOT LIKE WILLPOWER,
  • 00:20:35.451 --> 00:20:36.151
  • IT'S NOT LIKE WILLPOWER,TRYING TO WANT THE
  • 00:20:36.151 --> 00:20:38.487
  • TRYING TO WANT THERIGHT THING.
  • 00:20:38.487 --> 00:20:39.955
  • RIGHT THING.IT IS REBIRTH OF THE HUMAN
  • 00:20:39.955 --> 00:20:40.990
  • IT IS REBIRTH OF THE HUMANSPIRIT AND RECONNECTION TO GOD."
  • 00:20:40.990 --> 00:20:42.057
  • SPIRIT AND RECONNECTION TO GOD."AND SO THEN, AS A
  • 00:20:42.057 --> 00:20:43.325
  • AND SO THEN, AS ARESULT, WHAT WE HAVE IS AN
  • 00:20:43.325 --> 00:20:44.960
  • RESULT, WHAT WE HAVE IS ANABILITY TO KNOW HIM AND TO
  • 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:47.062
  • ABILITY TO KNOW HIM AND TOCOMMUNE WITH HIM, AND THEN
  • 00:20:47.062 --> 00:20:48.597
  • COMMUNE WITH HIM, AND THENTHAT LOVE REORIENTS OUR
  • 00:20:48.597 --> 00:20:50.532
  • THAT LOVE REORIENTS OURBODIES AND OUR EMOTIONS SO
  • 00:20:50.532 --> 00:20:53.369
  • BODIES AND OUR EMOTIONS SOTHAT WE CAN WALK IN GOD'S
  • 00:20:53.369 --> 00:20:54.703
  • THAT WE CAN WALK IN GOD'SWAY IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:20:54.703 --> 00:20:56.338
  • WAY IN THE WORLD.NOW, RELIGION, WHICH YOU
  • 00:20:56.338 --> 00:20:57.940
  • NOW, RELIGION, WHICH YOUMENTIONED EARLIER, TRIES
  • 00:20:57.940 --> 00:20:59.875
  • MENTIONED EARLIER, TRIESTO GET BEHAVIORAL
  • 00:20:59.875 --> 00:21:00.542
  • TO GET BEHAVIORALMODIFICATION BY DOING
  • 00:21:00.542 --> 00:21:02.411
  • MODIFICATION BY DOINGGOOD WORKS.
  • 00:21:02.411 --> 00:21:03.045
  • GOOD WORKS.AND THE GOSPEL IS NOT
  • 00:21:03.045 --> 00:21:04.213
  • AND THE GOSPEL IS NOT"YOU CAN DO ENOUGH THINGS TO
  • 00:21:04.213 --> 00:21:06.115
  • "YOU CAN DO ENOUGH THINGS TOBE MADE RIGHT WITH GOD."
  • 00:21:06.115 --> 00:21:07.216
  • BE MADE RIGHT WITH GOD."THE GOSPEL IS THAT GOD'S DONE
  • 00:21:07.216 --> 00:21:08.417
  • THE GOSPEL IS THAT GOD'S DONEEVERYTHING IN JESUS THAT
  • 00:21:08.417 --> 00:21:09.084
  • EVERYTHING IN JESUS THATYOU NEED TO CHANGE,
  • 00:21:09.084 --> 00:21:10.452
  • YOU NEED TO CHANGE,AND IT'S A GIFT.
  • 00:21:10.452 --> 00:21:11.654
  • AND IT'S A GIFT.IT IS A GIFT.
  • 00:21:11.654 --> 00:21:13.022
  • IT IS A GIFT.THE BIBLE SAYS THAT
  • 00:21:13.022 --> 00:21:14.089
  • THE BIBLE SAYS THAT"IT IS THE POOR IN SPIRIT
  • 00:21:14.089 --> 00:21:15.391
  • "IT IS THE POOR IN SPIRITWHO INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF
  • 00:21:15.391 --> 00:21:16.392
  • WHO INHERIT THE KINGDOM OFGOD," AND MOST OF US ARE
  • 00:21:16.392 --> 00:21:17.660
  • GOD," AND MOST OF US ARESORT OF MIDDLE CLASS IN
  • 00:21:17.660 --> 00:21:18.894
  • SORT OF MIDDLE CLASS INSPIRIT, WHICH MEANS WE
  • 00:21:18.894 --> 00:21:20.362
  • SPIRIT, WHICH MEANS WEHAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OUR
  • 00:21:20.362 --> 00:21:21.030
  • HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OUROWN EFFORTS IN HERE, WE
  • 00:21:21.030 --> 00:21:22.631
  • OWN EFFORTS IN HERE, WEJUDGE THOSE NOT AS GOOD AS
  • 00:21:22.631 --> 00:21:24.300
  • JUDGE THOSE NOT AS GOOD ASUS, AND WE SORT OF RELY ON
  • 00:21:24.300 --> 00:21:25.901
  • US, AND WE SORT OF RELY ONOUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS,
  • 00:21:25.901 --> 00:21:27.269
  • OUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS,BUT THE GOSPEL SAYS NONE
  • 00:21:27.269 --> 00:21:28.671
  • BUT THE GOSPEL SAYS NONEOF THAT WORKS.
  • 00:21:28.671 --> 00:21:29.171
  • OF THAT WORKS.IT IS A GIFT.
  • 00:21:29.171 --> 00:21:31.206
  • IT IS A GIFT.IT'S REBIRTH OF THE
  • 00:21:31.206 --> 00:21:32.074
  • IT'S REBIRTH OF THESPIRIT, AND THEN THE
  • 00:21:32.074 --> 00:21:33.609
  • SPIRIT, AND THEN THESPIRIT REORDERS OUR BODILY
  • 00:21:33.609 --> 00:21:34.977
  • SPIRIT REORDERS OUR BODILYDESIRES, AND IT REORDERS
  • 00:21:34.977 --> 00:21:36.278
  • DESIRES, AND IT REORDERSOUR EMOTION SO THAT WE
  • 00:21:36.278 --> 00:21:37.513
  • OUR EMOTION SO THAT WEBEGIN TO WALK IN THE WAY
  • 00:21:37.513 --> 00:21:38.881
  • BEGIN TO WALK IN THE WAYOF LOVE, THE WAY OF LIFE,
  • 00:21:38.881 --> 00:21:40.182
  • OF LOVE, THE WAY OF LIFE,THE WAY OF PEACE, AND THE
  • 00:21:40.182 --> 00:21:42.051
  • THE WAY OF PEACE, AND THEWAY OF JOY.
  • 00:21:42.051 --> 00:21:42.718
  • WAY OF JOY.I THINK, IN SO MANY WAYS,
  • 00:21:42.718 --> 00:21:43.686
  • I THINK, IN SO MANY WAYS,THAT'S WHAT OUR SOCIETY IS
  • 00:21:43.686 --> 00:21:45.020
  • THAT'S WHAT OUR SOCIETY ISACHING FOR, NOT MORALISM,
  • 00:21:45.020 --> 00:21:47.423
  • ACHING FOR, NOT MORALISM,ANOTHER LIST OF THINGS TO
  • 00:21:47.423 --> 00:21:48.490
  • ANOTHER LIST OF THINGS TODO, BUT THIS GIFT OF GRACE
  • 00:21:48.490 --> 00:21:49.091
  • DO, BUT THIS GIFT OF GRACETHAT COMES IN, AND IT
  • 00:21:49.091 --> 00:21:52.594
  • THAT COMES IN, AND ITDEEPLY TRANSFORMS US.
  • 00:21:52.594 --> 00:21:54.296
  • DEEPLY TRANSFORMS US.SO, TO ME, THAT'S THE
  • 00:21:54.296 --> 00:21:54.830
  • SO, TO ME, THAT'S THEHEART OF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:21:54.830 --> 00:21:55.698
  • HEART OF THE GOSPEL.THESE ARE THE CRIES OF
  • 00:21:55.698 --> 00:21:56.198
  • THESE ARE THE CRIES OFTHE HEART.
  • 00:21:56.198 --> 00:21:58.867
  • THE HEART.- MATT: WHEN YOU TALK
  • 00:21:58.867 --> 00:22:01.036
  • - MATT: WHEN YOU TALKABOUT THESE COMPETING
  • 00:22:01.036 --> 00:22:01.637
  • ABOUT THESE COMPETINGGOSPELS, YOU'RE TALKING
  • 00:22:01.637 --> 00:22:04.506
  • GOSPELS, YOU'RE TALKINGABOUT JUST, IN GENERAL,
  • 00:22:04.506 --> 00:22:05.374
  • ABOUT JUST, IN GENERAL,KIND OF SOMETHING
  • 00:22:05.374 --> 00:22:08.977
  • KIND OF SOMETHINGIS DRIVING.
  • 00:22:08.977 --> 00:22:11.113
  • IS DRIVING.IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE OLD
  • 00:22:11.113 --> 00:22:11.747
  • IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE OLDCLICHE, "IT'S NOT WHAT YOU
  • 00:22:11.747 --> 00:22:15.117
  • CLICHE, "IT'S NOT WHAT YOUDO BUT WHY YOU DO IT."
  • 00:22:15.117 --> 00:22:15.784
  • DO BUT WHY YOU DO IT."SO EVERYONE IS BEING DRIVEN
  • 00:22:15.784 --> 00:22:16.385
  • SO EVERYONE IS BEING DRIVENTO DO SOMETHING WITH A
  • 00:22:16.385 --> 00:22:18.020
  • TO DO SOMETHING WITH ACOMPETING DIFFERENT WORLDVIEW,
  • 00:22:18.020 --> 00:22:22.624
  • COMPETING DIFFERENT WORLDVIEW,AND CHRISTIANITY IS
  • 00:22:22.624 --> 00:22:26.595
  • AND CHRISTIANITY ISUNIQUELY DIFFERENT THAN
  • 00:22:26.595 --> 00:22:27.963
  • UNIQUELY DIFFERENT THANJUST A WORLD VIEW,
  • 00:22:27.963 --> 00:22:29.431
  • JUST A WORLD VIEW,BUT IT GETS LUMPED OR
  • 00:22:29.431 --> 00:22:30.699
  • BUT IT GETS LUMPED ORCLASSIFIED IN THAT CATEGORY.
  • 00:22:30.699 --> 00:22:32.935
  • CLASSIFIED IN THAT CATEGORY.WHY?
  • 00:22:32.935 --> 00:22:34.436
  • WHY?WHY IS THAT?
  • 00:22:34.436 --> 00:22:35.738
  • WHY IS THAT?WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR, YOU
  • 00:22:35.738 --> 00:22:38.640
  • WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR, YOUKNOW, COMMUNICATIONS IN
  • 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.509
  • KNOW, COMMUNICATIONS INREGARD TO CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:22:40.509 --> 00:22:41.744
  • REGARD TO CHRISTIANITYJUST BEING ONE OF MANY
  • 00:22:41.744 --> 00:22:43.412
  • JUST BEING ONE OF MANYCHOICES FOR A WAY THAT--
  • 00:22:43.412 --> 00:22:44.847
  • CHOICES FOR A WAY THAT--- JON: WELL, IT'S
  • 00:22:44.847 --> 00:22:46.548
  • - JON: WELL, IT'SPROBABLY A MULTIFACETED
  • 00:22:46.548 --> 00:22:49.284
  • I MEAN, THE HUMAN HEART,
  • 00:22:51.053 --> 00:22:51.720
  • I MEAN, THE HUMAN HEART,ITS PROPENSITY IS TOWARDS,
  • 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.791
  • ITS PROPENSITY IS TOWARDS,SORT OF,
  • 00:22:55.791 --> 00:22:56.392
  • SORT OF,SELF-JUSTIFICATION AND
  • 00:22:56.392 --> 00:22:58.394
  • SELF-JUSTIFICATION ANDCOMPARISON.
  • 00:22:58.394 --> 00:22:58.994
  • COMPARISON.AND SO I THINK, IN SOME
  • 00:22:58.994 --> 00:23:00.863
  • AND SO I THINK, IN SOMESENSE, THAT PHARISAICAL
  • 00:23:00.863 --> 00:23:02.798
  • SENSE, THAT PHARISAICALREALITY, SORT OF, CAUGHT ON
  • 00:23:02.798 --> 00:23:05.134
  • REALITY, SORT OF, CAUGHT ONAND TOOK OVER IN MANY PLACES.
  • 00:23:05.134 --> 00:23:07.002
  • AND TOOK OVER IN MANY PLACES.THIS NEWS IS A THREAT.
  • 00:23:07.002 --> 00:23:07.603
  • THIS NEWS IS A THREAT.THE GOSPEL OF JESUS IS A
  • 00:23:07.603 --> 00:23:10.172
  • IT'S A THREAT TO
  • 00:23:11.273 --> 00:23:11.673
  • IT'S A THREAT TOUNGODLINESS.
  • 00:23:11.673 --> 00:23:12.141
  • UNGODLINESS.IT'S A THREAT TO
  • 00:23:12.141 --> 00:23:12.775
  • IT'S A THREAT TOINJUSTICE, BUT IT'S A
  • 00:23:12.775 --> 00:23:13.575
  • INJUSTICE, BUT IT'S ATHREAT TO MORALISM AS
  • 00:23:13.575 --> 00:23:15.077
  • THREAT TO MORALISM ASWELL, AND SO JESUS
  • 00:23:15.077 --> 00:23:19.415
  • WELL, AND SO JESUSRESERVED HIS HARSHEST
  • 00:23:19.415 --> 00:23:21.683
  • RESERVED HIS HARSHESTCRITIQUES AFTER THE PHARISEES.
  • 00:23:21.683 --> 00:23:23.018
  • CRITIQUES AFTER THE PHARISEES.YOU KNOW, HE HAS THESE
  • 00:23:23.018 --> 00:23:24.019
  • YOU KNOW, HE HAS THESESEVEN WOES TO THE PHARISEES,
  • 00:23:24.019 --> 00:23:24.586
  • SEVEN WOES TO THE PHARISEES,WHICH IS NOT A POPULAR
  • 00:23:24.586 --> 00:23:25.120
  • WHICH IS NOT A POPULARTEACHING SERIES,
  • 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:25.754
  • TEACHING SERIES,YOU KNOW, "THE SEVEN WOES
  • 00:23:25.754 --> 00:23:26.488
  • YOU KNOW, "THE SEVEN WOESTO THE PHARISEES,"
  • 00:23:26.488 --> 00:23:27.089
  • TO THE PHARISEES,"BUT HE SAYS TO THEM,
  • 00:23:27.089 --> 00:23:27.856
  • BUT HE SAYS TO THEM,"YOU ARE SONS OF HELL.
  • 00:23:27.856 --> 00:23:30.359
  • "YOU ARE SONS OF HELL.YOU'RE LIKE WHITEWASHED TOMBS.
  • 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:30.926
  • YOU'RE LIKE WHITEWASHED TOMBS.YOU LOOK GREAT ON THE
  • 00:23:30.926 --> 00:23:31.627
  • YOU LOOK GREAT ON THEOUTSIDE, BUT INWARDLY YOU'RE
  • 00:23:31.627 --> 00:23:33.095
  • OUTSIDE, BUT INWARDLY YOU'REFULL OF DEAD MEN'S BONES."
  • 00:23:33.095 --> 00:23:34.596
  • FULL OF DEAD MEN'S BONES."AND SO I THINK THE FALSE GOSPEL
  • 00:23:34.596 --> 00:23:35.898
  • AND SO I THINK THE FALSE GOSPELOF RELIGION, IN MANY WAYS,
  • 00:23:35.898 --> 00:23:36.965
  • OF RELIGION, IN MANY WAYS,HAS SNUCK IN AND REPLACED
  • 00:23:36.965 --> 00:23:38.634
  • HAS SNUCK IN AND REPLACEDTHE MESSAGE OF JESUS, AND
  • 00:23:38.634 --> 00:23:40.602
  • THE MESSAGE OF JESUS, ANDWE SHOULD BE PEOPLE TODAY
  • 00:23:40.602 --> 00:23:42.070
  • WE SHOULD BE PEOPLE TODAYWHO ARE CHAMPIONING THE
  • 00:23:42.070 --> 00:23:43.906
  • WHO ARE CHAMPIONING THEGRACE OF GOD, THE LOVE OF GOD.
  • 00:23:43.906 --> 00:23:45.607
  • GRACE OF GOD, THE LOVE OF GOD.JESUS SAID, "I DIDN'T COME
  • 00:23:45.607 --> 00:23:46.575
  • JESUS SAID, "I DIDN'T COMEINTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMN
  • 00:23:46.575 --> 00:23:48.477
  • INTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMNTHE WORLD BUT TO SAVE THE
  • 00:23:48.477 --> 00:23:50.379
  • THE WORLD BUT TO SAVE THEWORLD," AND WE MAKE IT
  • 00:23:50.379 --> 00:23:51.547
  • WORLD," AND WE MAKE ITLIKE GOD SHOWED UP TO
  • 00:23:51.547 --> 00:23:52.514
  • LIKE GOD SHOWED UP TOBASICALLY KEEP EVERYBODY
  • 00:23:52.514 --> 00:23:54.516
  • BASICALLY KEEP EVERYBODYOUT RATHER THAN A
  • 00:23:54.516 --> 00:23:56.418
  • OUT RATHER THAN AFULL-SCALE MISSION FOR
  • 00:23:56.418 --> 00:23:57.386
  • FULL-SCALE MISSION FORJESUS TO BRING AS MANY IN
  • 00:23:57.386 --> 00:23:58.153
  • JESUS TO BRING AS MANY INTHROUGH HIS LOVE AND HIS
  • 00:23:58.153 --> 00:24:01.490
  • THROUGH HIS LOVE AND HISRESCUING GRACE.
  • 00:24:01.490 --> 00:24:04.760
  • RESCUING GRACE.- MATT: IF JESUS WAS
  • 00:24:04.760 --> 00:24:06.862
  • - MATT: IF JESUS WASALIVE IN OUR GENERATION
  • 00:24:06.862 --> 00:24:08.330
  • ALIVE IN OUR GENERATIONAND NOT 2.000 YEARS AGO,
  • 00:24:08.330 --> 00:24:10.799
  • AND NOT 2.000 YEARS AGO,WHO WOULD HE BE SAYING,
  • 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.334
  • WHO WOULD HE BE SAYING,"WOE" TO?
  • 00:24:12.334 --> 00:24:12.835
  • "WOE" TO?WHAT MODERN-DAY
  • 00:24:12.835 --> 00:24:15.404
  • WHAT MODERN-DAYINSTITUTIONS, AND WHAT
  • 00:24:15.404 --> 00:24:18.607
  • INSTITUTIONS, AND WHATWOULD HE BE SAYING?
  • 00:24:18.607 --> 00:24:19.475
  • WOULD HE BE SAYING?YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:24:19.475 --> 00:24:20.976
  • YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOWTHAT WE HAVE PHARISEES AND
  • 00:24:20.976 --> 00:24:23.712
  • THAT WE HAVE PHARISEES ANDSADDUCEES NOW.
  • 00:24:23.712 --> 00:24:24.313
  • SADDUCEES NOW.WHO ARE THE MODERN-DAY?
  • 00:24:24.313 --> 00:24:26.849
  • WHO ARE THE MODERN-DAY?SO KIND OF REINTERPRET
  • 00:24:26.849 --> 00:24:27.816
  • SO KIND OF REINTERPRETTHAT SCRIPTURE OF JESUS--
  • 00:24:27.816 --> 00:24:28.584
  • THAT SCRIPTURE OF JESUS--- JON: OH, MAN, YOU'RE
  • 00:24:28.584 --> 00:24:29.284
  • - JON: OH, MAN, YOU'REGOING THERE.
  • 00:24:29.284 --> 00:24:29.885
  • GOING THERE.- LAURIE: GOOD COP-OUT.
  • 00:24:29.885 --> 00:24:31.353
  • - LAURIE: GOOD COP-OUT.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:31.353 --> 00:24:32.621
  • [LAUGHTER]- MATT: OH, YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:24:32.621 --> 00:24:33.121
  • - MATT: OH, YEAH, YEAH.YOU'RE THE PASTOR.
  • 00:24:33.121 --> 00:24:34.189
  • YOU'RE THE PASTOR.YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THE
  • 00:24:34.189 --> 00:24:35.324
  • YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THEHARD STUFF.
  • 00:24:35.324 --> 00:24:35.958
  • HARD STUFF.- JON: I MEAN, I WOULD--
  • 00:24:35.958 --> 00:24:37.159
  • - JON: I MEAN, I WOULD--SO LET'S START WITH THE
  • 00:24:37.159 --> 00:24:38.393
  • SO LET'S START WITH THEFORCES IN JESUS' DAY, THAT
  • 00:24:38.393 --> 00:24:39.495
  • FORCES IN JESUS' DAY, THATJESUS WAS INTERACTING
  • 00:24:39.495 --> 00:24:40.929
  • JESUS WAS INTERACTINGWITH, AND MAYBE THOSE ARE
  • 00:24:40.929 --> 00:24:42.564
  • WITH, AND MAYBE THOSE ARECLUES FOR HOW JESUS WOULD
  • 00:24:42.564 --> 00:24:44.032
  • CLUES FOR HOW JESUS WOULDRESPOND TODAY.
  • 00:24:44.032 --> 00:24:45.534
  • RESPOND TODAY.SO, BASICALLY, THE JEWISH
  • 00:24:45.534 --> 00:24:46.835
  • SO, BASICALLY, THE JEWISHPEOPLE IN THE FIRST
  • 00:24:46.835 --> 00:24:47.703
  • PEOPLE IN THE FIRSTCENTURY WE'RE DEALING WITH
  • 00:24:47.703 --> 00:24:50.472
  • CENTURY WE'RE DEALING WITHTHIS FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION.
  • 00:24:50.472 --> 00:24:51.640
  • THIS FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION.IT WAS THIS "WHY ARE THE
  • 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:52.474
  • IT WAS THIS "WHY ARE THEROMANS HERE?
  • 00:24:52.474 --> 00:24:53.108
  • ROMANS HERE?WHY ARE THE ROMANS HERE?"
  • 00:24:53.108 --> 00:24:54.076
  • WHY ARE THE ROMANS HERE?"WE HAVE PROMISES IN THE
  • 00:24:54.076 --> 00:24:55.377
  • WE HAVE PROMISES IN THEOLD TESTAMENT.
  • 00:24:55.377 --> 00:24:55.978
  • OLD TESTAMENT.THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY
  • 00:24:55.978 --> 00:24:57.813
  • THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMYTELLS US, IN BLESSINGS AND
  • 00:24:57.813 --> 00:24:59.114
  • TELLS US, IN BLESSINGS ANDCURSES, THAT, IF WE OBEY
  • 00:24:59.114 --> 00:25:00.215
  • CURSES, THAT, IF WE OBEYTHE COVENANT OF GOD, WE'LL
  • 00:25:00.215 --> 00:25:01.350
  • THE COVENANT OF GOD, WE'LLBE THE HEAD, NOT THE TAIL.
  • 00:25:01.350 --> 00:25:02.584
  • BE THE HEAD, NOT THE TAIL.THE NATIONS WILL COME TO US.
  • 00:25:02.584 --> 00:25:04.019
  • THE NATIONS WILL COME TO US.WE'LL BE FIRST AND NOT LAST.
  • 00:25:04.019 --> 00:25:05.621
  • WE'LL BE FIRST AND NOT LAST.AND THEN THEY LOOK AT
  • 00:25:05.621 --> 00:25:06.488
  • AND THEN THEY LOOK ATTHEIR LIVES, AND THEY
  • 00:25:06.488 --> 00:25:07.155
  • THEIR LIVES, AND THEYREALIZE NONE OF THIS HAS
  • 00:25:07.155 --> 00:25:07.723
  • REALIZE NONE OF THIS HASHAPPENED.
  • 00:25:07.723 --> 00:25:08.824
  • HAPPENED.SO ALL OF THEM HAVE
  • 00:25:08.824 --> 00:25:10.158
  • SO ALL OF THEM HAVERESPONSES ABOUT HOW TO
  • 00:25:10.158 --> 00:25:11.093
  • RESPONSES ABOUT HOW TODEAL WITH THEIR REALITY.
  • 00:25:11.093 --> 00:25:13.662
  • DEAL WITH THEIR REALITY.SO THE SADDUCEES,
  • 00:25:13.662 --> 00:25:14.663
  • SO THE SADDUCEES,BASICALLY, THEY FUNCTIONALLY
  • 00:25:14.663 --> 00:25:17.332
  • BASICALLY, THEY FUNCTIONALLYSELL OUT, AND THEY SAID,
  • 00:25:17.332 --> 00:25:18.000
  • SELL OUT, AND THEY SAID,"LET'S JUST GET ALONG WITH
  • 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:18.800
  • "LET'S JUST GET ALONG WITHTHE POWERS THAT BE.
  • 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:19.301
  • THE POWERS THAT BE.I MEAN, WHAT'RE WE
  • 00:25:19.301 --> 00:25:20.769
  • I MEAN, WHAT'RE WEREALLY-- IT'S ROME.
  • 00:25:20.769 --> 00:25:22.271
  • REALLY-- IT'S ROME.WHAT'RE WE REALLY GONNA DO?"
  • 00:25:22.271 --> 00:25:23.171
  • WHAT'RE WE REALLY GONNA DO?"THE PHARISEES BASICALLY
  • 00:25:23.171 --> 00:25:25.040
  • THE PHARISEES BASICALLYSEPARATE THEMSELVES, SO
  • 00:25:25.040 --> 00:25:26.642
  • SEPARATE THEMSELVES, SOTHEY HAVE A MORAL
  • 00:25:26.642 --> 00:25:27.843
  • THEY HAVE A MORALREFORMATION PROJECT.
  • 00:25:27.843 --> 00:25:29.077
  • REFORMATION PROJECT.THE PHARISEES HAD A VISION
  • 00:25:29.077 --> 00:25:30.345
  • THE PHARISEES HAD A VISIONOF MAKING EVERY HOME LIKE
  • 00:25:30.345 --> 00:25:33.382
  • OF MAKING EVERY HOME LIKETHE TEMPLE, AND THEY
  • 00:25:33.382 --> 00:25:34.016
  • THE TEMPLE, AND THEYBELIEVED, "IF WE GOT HOLY
  • 00:25:34.016 --> 00:25:34.883
  • BELIEVED, "IF WE GOT HOLYENOUGH AND WE'RE OBEYIN'
  • 00:25:34.883 --> 00:25:37.419
  • ENOUGH AND WE'RE OBEYIN'WELL ENOUGH, THEN GOD
  • 00:25:37.419 --> 00:25:38.186
  • WELL ENOUGH, THEN GODWOULD COME SEND A MESSIAH,
  • 00:25:38.186 --> 00:25:39.721
  • WOULD COME SEND A MESSIAH,AND HE WOULD RESCUE US.
  • 00:25:39.721 --> 00:25:40.322
  • AND HE WOULD RESCUE US.THE ESSENES, WHICH WAS A
  • 00:25:40.322 --> 00:25:40.956
  • THE ESSENES, WHICH WAS AGROUP WE DON'T READ A LOT
  • 00:25:40.956 --> 00:25:41.623
  • GROUP WE DON'T READ A LOTABOUT BUT WAS DEFINITELY
  • 00:25:41.623 --> 00:25:42.524
  • ABOUT BUT WAS DEFINITELYONE OF THOSE THINGS AT THE
  • 00:25:42.524 --> 00:25:43.158
  • ONE OF THOSE THINGS AT THETIME OF JESUS, THEY WERE
  • 00:25:43.158 --> 00:25:44.426
  • TIME OF JESUS, THEY WEREOUT IN THE DESERT.
  • 00:25:44.426 --> 00:25:45.060
  • OUT IN THE DESERT.BASICALLY, THEY WERE LIKE
  • 00:25:45.060 --> 00:25:46.662
  • BASICALLY, THEY WERE LIKETHE FASTERS AND THE
  • 00:25:46.662 --> 00:25:47.829
  • THE FASTERS AND THEREPENTERS AND THE
  • 00:25:47.829 --> 00:25:48.363
  • REPENTERS AND THESEPARATORS, SO THEY
  • 00:25:48.363 --> 00:25:49.231
  • SEPARATORS, SO THEYBASICALLY WITHDREW FROM
  • 00:25:49.231 --> 00:25:50.532
  • BASICALLY WITHDREW FROMANY SORT OF MISSIONAL
  • 00:25:50.532 --> 00:25:51.934
  • ANY SORT OF MISSIONALENGAGEMENT AT THE TIME,
  • 00:25:51.934 --> 00:25:53.068
  • ENGAGEMENT AT THE TIME,AND THEN YOU HAD THE
  • 00:25:53.068 --> 00:25:54.202
  • AND THEN YOU HAD THEZEALOTS, AND THEY WERE
  • 00:25:54.202 --> 00:25:55.237
  • ZEALOTS, AND THEY WEREBASICALLY, SORT OF,
  • 00:25:55.237 --> 00:25:56.271
  • BASICALLY, SORT OF,MERCENARIES A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:25:56.271 --> 00:25:56.872
  • MERCENARIES A LITTLE BIT.THEY WOULD JUST GET IN,
  • 00:25:56.872 --> 00:26:01.043
  • THEY WOULD JUST GET IN,AND THEY WOULD BY ANY MEANS
  • 00:26:01.043 --> 00:26:03.111
  • AND THEY WOULD BY ANY MEANSNECESSARY, INCLUDING VIOLENCE.
  • 00:26:03.111 --> 00:26:03.679
  • NECESSARY, INCLUDING VIOLENCE.AND SO IN THE GOSPELS,
  • 00:26:03.679 --> 00:26:04.313
  • AND SO IN THE GOSPELS,WHAT'S FASCINATING IS
  • 00:26:04.313 --> 00:26:05.113
  • WHAT'S FASCINATING ISJESUS HAS INTERACTIONS
  • 00:26:05.113 --> 00:26:06.048
  • JESUS HAS INTERACTIONSWITH ALL OF THESE
  • 00:26:06.048 --> 00:26:07.149
  • WITH ALL OF THESEDIFFERENT GROUPS, AND IN
  • 00:26:07.149 --> 00:26:09.051
  • DIFFERENT GROUPS, AND INHIS INTERACTIONS, HE SORT
  • 00:26:09.051 --> 00:26:10.185
  • HIS INTERACTIONS, HE SORTOF GIVES US CLUES ABOUT
  • 00:26:10.185 --> 00:26:11.520
  • OF GIVES US CLUES ABOUTHOW TO RESPOND.
  • 00:26:11.520 --> 00:26:12.187
  • HOW TO RESPOND.BY THE WAY, JESUS' MESSAGE
  • 00:26:12.187 --> 00:26:13.589
  • BY THE WAY, JESUS' MESSAGETO BASICALLY ALL OF THEM
  • 00:26:13.589 --> 00:26:15.857
  • TO BASICALLY ALL OF THEMWAS "THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
  • 00:26:15.857 --> 00:26:16.592
  • WAS "THE KINGDOM OF HEAVENIS AT HAND."
  • 00:26:16.592 --> 00:26:18.060
  • IS AT HAND."AND SO "YOUR INSTINCT FOR
  • 00:26:18.060 --> 00:26:19.227
  • AND SO "YOUR INSTINCT FORCHANGE IS PROBABLY GOOD,
  • 00:26:19.227 --> 00:26:21.663
  • CHANGE IS PROBABLY GOOD,BUT YOUR APPROACH IS NOT THE
  • 00:26:21.663 --> 00:26:24.399
  • BUT YOUR APPROACH IS NOT THEMESSAGE THAT I'M BRINGING."
  • 00:26:24.399 --> 00:26:24.933
  • MESSAGE THAT I'M BRINGING."SO IF WE WERE TO ASK
  • 00:26:24.933 --> 00:26:26.268
  • SO IF WE WERE TO ASKOURSELVES THE QUESTIONS
  • 00:26:26.268 --> 00:26:27.970
  • OURSELVES THE QUESTIONSTODAY IF WE HAD A LITTLE áá
  • 00:26:27.970 --> 00:26:28.670
  • TODAY IF WE HAD A LITTLE áá"WHO IS IT THAT HAS SOLD
  • 00:26:28.670 --> 00:26:29.471
  • "WHO IS IT THAT HAS SOLDOUT AND IS OBSESSED WITH
  • 00:26:29.471 --> 00:26:30.372
  • OUT AND IS OBSESSED WITHPOLITICAL POWER AS THE
  • 00:26:30.372 --> 00:26:31.073
  • POLITICAL POWER AS THEPRIMARY MEANS OF CHANGING
  • 00:26:31.073 --> 00:26:31.673
  • PRIMARY MEANS OF CHANGINGTHE WORLD?"
  • 00:26:31.673 --> 00:26:32.708
  • THE WORLD?"I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR
  • 00:26:32.708 --> 00:26:34.109
  • I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FORTHAT, BUT THERE'S A DIAGNOSTIC
  • 00:26:34.109 --> 00:26:36.578
  • THAT, BUT THERE'S A DIAGNOSTICQUESTION THAT YOU COULD--
  • 00:26:36.578 --> 00:26:37.245
  • QUESTION THAT YOU COULD--"WHO BELIEVES THAT MAKE IT
  • 00:26:37.245 --> 00:26:39.881
  • "WHO BELIEVES THAT MAKE ITJUST SELLING OUT TO POLITICS
  • 00:26:39.881 --> 00:26:40.782
  • JUST SELLING OUT TO POLITICSIS THE SOLUTION TO CHANGE
  • 00:26:40.782 --> 00:26:41.283
  • IS THE SOLUTION TO CHANGETHE WORLD?"
  • 00:26:41.283 --> 00:26:42.184
  • THE WORLD?"I THINK JESUS WOULD HAVE A
  • 00:26:42.184 --> 00:26:43.518
  • I THINK JESUS WOULD HAVE APROBLEM WITH THEM.
  • 00:26:43.518 --> 00:26:44.486
  • PROBLEM WITH THEM.JESUS, I THINK, WOULD BE
  • 00:26:44.486 --> 00:26:45.320
  • JESUS, I THINK, WOULD BEAGAINST, YOU KNOW, LIKE,
  • 00:26:45.320 --> 00:26:46.588
  • AGAINST, YOU KNOW, LIKE,RADICAL VIOLENCE TO
  • 00:26:46.588 --> 00:26:48.724
  • RADICAL VIOLENCE TOINSTITUTE AN ACTUAL KINGDOM.
  • 00:26:48.724 --> 00:26:50.092
  • INSTITUTE AN ACTUAL KINGDOM.JESUS DIED AT THE HANDS OF
  • 00:26:50.092 --> 00:26:50.826
  • JESUS DIED AT THE HANDS OFVIOLENCE.
  • 00:26:50.826 --> 00:26:51.660
  • VIOLENCE.THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT
  • 00:26:51.660 --> 00:26:53.128
  • THE SERMON ON THE MOUNTTELLS US THAT WE OUGHT TO
  • 00:26:53.128 --> 00:26:53.929
  • TELLS US THAT WE OUGHT TOHAVE AN ETHIC OF PEACEMAKING
  • 00:26:53.929 --> 00:26:54.997
  • HAVE AN ETHIC OF PEACEMAKINGAND SUFFERING LOVE.
  • 00:26:54.997 --> 00:26:57.532
  • AND SUFFERING LOVE.JESUS WOULD BE AGAINST
  • 00:26:57.532 --> 00:26:58.433
  • JESUS WOULD BE AGAINSTPEOPLE COMPLETELY
  • 00:26:58.433 --> 00:26:59.401
  • PEOPLE COMPLETELYSEPARATING FROM THE
  • 00:26:59.401 --> 00:27:00.335
  • SEPARATING FROM THECULTURE AND ABANDONING IT.
  • 00:27:00.335 --> 00:27:01.903
  • CULTURE AND ABANDONING IT.HE WANTS TO HEAL AND TO
  • 00:27:01.903 --> 00:27:03.005
  • HE WANTS TO HEAL AND TOBRING LOVE, TO BRING
  • 00:27:03.005 --> 00:27:03.672
  • BRING LOVE, TO BRINGGRACE, AND TO BRING
  • 00:27:03.672 --> 00:27:05.340
  • GRACE, AND TO BRINGWHOLENESS, AND JESUS WOULD
  • 00:27:05.340 --> 00:27:06.942
  • WHOLENESS, AND JESUS WOULDDEFINITELY BE AGAINST THE
  • 00:27:06.942 --> 00:27:07.576
  • DEFINITELY BE AGAINST THESELF-RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:27:07.576 --> 00:27:09.645
  • SELF-RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHOCREATED A RELIGION THAT
  • 00:27:09.645 --> 00:27:10.679
  • CREATED A RELIGION THATJUSTIFIED THEMSELVES AND
  • 00:27:10.679 --> 00:27:12.481
  • JUSTIFIED THEMSELVES ANDEXCLUDED OTHERS.
  • 00:27:12.481 --> 00:27:13.315
  • EXCLUDED OTHERS.SO I THINK JESUS WOULD
  • 00:27:13.315 --> 00:27:14.483
  • SO I THINK JESUS WOULDBRING A WRECKING BALL TO
  • 00:27:14.483 --> 00:27:15.684
  • BRING A WRECKING BALL TOALL HUMAN STRUCTURES,
  • 00:27:15.684 --> 00:27:17.686
  • ALL HUMAN STRUCTURES,OPPOSED TO SEEKING FIRST
  • 00:27:17.686 --> 00:27:18.353
  • OPPOSED TO SEEKING FIRSTTHE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND HE
  • 00:27:18.353 --> 00:27:19.187
  • THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND HEWOULD CALL US ALL TO THE
  • 00:27:19.187 --> 00:27:20.822
  • WOULD CALL US ALL TO THEKINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH.
  • 00:27:20.822 --> 00:27:22.057
  • KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH.- MATT: YOU ANSWERED THAT
  • 00:27:22.057 --> 00:27:24.660
  • - MATT: YOU ANSWERED THATVERY ARTFULLY.
  • 00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:25.227
  • VERY ARTFULLY.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:25.227 --> 00:27:25.994
  • [LAUGHTER]THAT WAS A VERY, VERY
  • 00:27:25.994 --> 00:27:27.429
  • THAT WAS A VERY, VERYWELL, ARTFUL--
  • 00:27:27.429 --> 00:27:28.096
  • WELL, ARTFUL--- JON: I'M IN NEW YORK,
  • 00:27:28.096 --> 00:27:29.364
  • - JON: I'M IN NEW YORK,MAN, COME ON.
  • 00:27:29.364 --> 00:27:29.965
  • MAN, COME ON.- MATT: -- AND VERY
  • 00:27:29.965 --> 00:27:30.932
  • - MATT: -- AND VERYARTFUL ANSWER TO THAT--
  • 00:27:30.932 --> 00:27:31.366
  • ARTFUL ANSWER TO THAT--- JON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:31.366 --> 00:27:31.933
  • - JON: YEAH.- MATT: -- BUT YOU'RE
  • 00:27:31.933 --> 00:27:32.734
  • - MATT: -- BUT YOU'REBASICALLY SAYING-- LET ME
  • 00:27:32.734 --> 00:27:35.337
  • BASICALLY SAYING-- LET MEMAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:27:35.337 --> 00:27:36.471
  • MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.- JON: OKAY.
  • 00:27:36.471 --> 00:27:37.072
  • - JON: OKAY.- MATT: JESUS WOULD NOT
  • 00:27:37.072 --> 00:27:43.011
  • - MATT: JESUS WOULD NOTTHINK THAT NECESSARILY
  • 00:27:43.011 --> 00:27:45.047
  • THINK THAT NECESSARILYJUST BECOMING A POLITICIAN
  • 00:27:45.047 --> 00:27:46.982
  • JUST BECOMING A POLITICIANIS THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING.
  • 00:27:46.982 --> 00:27:49.418
  • IS THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING.IF YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, A
  • 00:27:49.418 --> 00:27:50.819
  • IF YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, ASUBVERSIVE GROUP THAT FELT
  • 00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:54.790
  • SUBVERSIVE GROUP THAT FELTLIKE CHRISTIANITY WASN'T--
  • 00:27:54.790 --> 00:27:55.957
  • LIKE CHRISTIANITY WASN'T--YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAD THOSE
  • 00:27:55.957 --> 00:27:57.492
  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAD THOSETHINGS CALLED THE CRUSADES.
  • 00:27:57.492 --> 00:27:59.461
  • THINGS CALLED THE CRUSADES.THAT WASN'T A GOOD IDEA.
  • 00:27:59.461 --> 00:28:00.128
  • THAT WASN'T A GOOD IDEA.THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT
  • 00:28:00.128 --> 00:28:01.196
  • THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHATJESUS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:28:01.196 --> 00:28:04.132
  • JESUS WAS TALKING ABOUT.AND SO YOU'RE TALKING
  • 00:28:04.132 --> 00:28:05.300
  • AND SO YOU'RE TALKINGABOUT SYSTEMS, SO IF WE--
  • 00:28:05.300 --> 00:28:09.805
  • ABOUT SYSTEMS, SO IF WE--IF JESUS RAILED AGAINST
  • 00:28:09.805 --> 00:28:11.073
  • IF JESUS RAILED AGAINSTTHOSE FOUR CATEGORIES--
  • 00:28:11.073 --> 00:28:12.441
  • THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES--AND SAY THE CATEGORIES
  • 00:28:12.441 --> 00:28:13.809
  • AND SAY THE CATEGORIESAGAIN: SADDUCEES,
  • 00:28:13.809 --> 00:28:16.511
  • AGAIN: SADDUCEES,PHARISEES, ESSENES--
  • 00:28:16.511 --> 00:28:17.179
  • PHARISEES, ESSENES--- JON: THE ESSENES AND THE
  • 00:28:17.179 --> 00:28:17.546
  • - JON: THE ESSENES AND THEZEALOTS.
  • 00:28:17.546 --> 00:28:18.447
  • ZEALOTS.- MATT: AND THE ZEALOTS.
  • 00:28:18.447 --> 00:28:19.781
  • - MATT: AND THE ZEALOTS.SO HOW DO WE-- CAN YOU
  • 00:28:19.781 --> 00:28:22.818
  • SO HOW DO WE-- CAN YOUJUST CONNECT US,
  • 00:28:22.818 --> 00:28:23.819
  • JUST CONNECT US,PHARISEES, SADDUCEES--
  • 00:28:23.819 --> 00:28:24.619
  • PHARISEES, SADDUCEES--CONNECT US TO OUR
  • 00:28:24.619 --> 00:28:28.690
  • CONNECT US TO OURMODERN-DAY SYSTEMS AGAIN,
  • 00:28:28.690 --> 00:28:29.791
  • MODERN-DAY SYSTEMS AGAIN,JUST VERY QUICKLY.
  • 00:28:29.791 --> 00:28:30.392
  • JUST VERY QUICKLY.- JON: OKAY, SO I THINK
  • 00:28:30.392 --> 00:28:31.026
  • - JON: OKAY, SO I THINKPEOPLE WOULD BASICALLY TRY
  • 00:28:31.026 --> 00:28:33.762
  • PEOPLE WOULD BASICALLY TRYAND HAVE APPROACHES IN THESE
  • 00:28:33.762 --> 00:28:34.563
  • AND HAVE APPROACHES IN THESECATEGORIES.
  • 00:28:34.563 --> 00:28:35.197
  • CATEGORIES.SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE AN
  • 00:28:35.197 --> 00:28:35.797
  • SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ANACCOMMODATION APPROACH,
  • 00:28:35.797 --> 00:28:36.498
  • ACCOMMODATION APPROACH,WHICH IS BASICALLY THE POWERS
  • 00:28:36.498 --> 00:28:39.034
  • TRY AND INFILTRATE THE POWERS,
  • 00:28:40.435 --> 00:28:41.369
  • TRY AND INFILTRATE THE POWERS,CONTROL THE POWERS,
  • 00:28:41.369 --> 00:28:42.104
  • CONTROL THE POWERS,AND GET OUR WILL DONE THROUGH
  • 00:28:42.104 --> 00:28:43.138
  • AND GET OUR WILL DONE THROUGHTHEM, AND THAT IS OFTEN THE
  • 00:28:43.138 --> 00:28:44.806
  • THEM, AND THAT IS OFTEN THEPOLITICAL INSTINCT.
  • 00:28:44.806 --> 00:28:46.007
  • POLITICAL INSTINCT.LET'S JUST SEIZE CONTROL
  • 00:28:46.007 --> 00:28:47.309
  • LET'S JUST SEIZE CONTROLAND IMPLEMENT OUR WORLD
  • 00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:49.644
  • AND IMPLEMENT OUR WORLDTHAT WAY.
  • 00:28:49.644 --> 00:28:51.012
  • THAT WAY.OTHER PEOPLE WILL
  • 00:28:51.012 --> 00:28:51.646
  • OTHER PEOPLE WILLBASICALLY WANNA CONTROL BY
  • 00:28:51.646 --> 00:28:53.315
  • BASICALLY WANNA CONTROL BYFORCE.
  • 00:28:53.315 --> 00:28:54.149
  • FORCE.THIS WAS THE ZEALOTS, SORT
  • 00:28:54.149 --> 00:28:54.883
  • THIS WAS THE ZEALOTS, SORTOF, RULE, AND SO THIS IS
  • 00:28:54.883 --> 00:28:56.284
  • OF, RULE, AND SO THIS ISLIKE AGGRESSIVE CULTURE
  • 00:28:56.284 --> 00:28:57.586
  • LIKE AGGRESSIVE CULTUREWARS THAT, IN MANY WAYS,
  • 00:28:57.586 --> 00:28:59.154
  • WARS THAT, IN MANY WAYS,VIOLATE THE SPIRIT OF
  • 00:28:59.154 --> 00:29:00.589
  • VIOLATE THE SPIRIT OFJESUS, THE SPIRIT OF THE
  • 00:29:00.589 --> 00:29:02.758
  • WE'RE AT WAR WITH THE CULTURE
  • 00:29:04.126 --> 00:29:04.726
  • WE'RE AT WAR WITH THE CULTURERATHER THAN WARRING FOR
  • 00:29:04.726 --> 00:29:05.127
  • RATHER THAN WARRING FORTHE CULTURE.
  • 00:29:05.127 --> 00:29:05.594
  • THE CULTURE.- MATT: GOT IT.
  • 00:29:05.594 --> 00:29:06.194
  • - MATT: GOT IT.- JON: YOU KNOW, AND SO
  • 00:29:06.194 --> 00:29:07.596
  • - JON: YOU KNOW, AND SOTHERE'S, LIKE, A LOT OF--
  • 00:29:07.596 --> 00:29:08.230
  • THERE'S, LIKE, A LOT OF--TO GET IN THE FIGHT MESSES
  • 00:29:08.230 --> 00:29:10.065
  • TO GET IN THE FIGHT MESSESWITH YOUR PSYCHOLOGY.
  • 00:29:10.065 --> 00:29:10.632
  • WITH YOUR PSYCHOLOGY.IT'S HARD TO LOVE IN A
  • 00:29:10.632 --> 00:29:11.767
  • IT'S HARD TO LOVE IN AFIGHT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:29:11.767 --> 00:29:12.434
  • FIGHT, YOU KNOW?AND SO, SO OFTEN, THAT THE
  • 00:29:12.434 --> 00:29:14.436
  • AND SO, SO OFTEN, THAT THEINSTINCT PRODUCES SO MUCH
  • 00:29:14.436 --> 00:29:15.537
  • INSTINCT PRODUCES SO MUCHTHAT IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:29:15.537 --> 00:29:18.440
  • THAT IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN.THE SEPARATIONIST
  • 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.242
  • THE SEPARATIONISTAPPROACH, WHICH IS
  • 00:29:20.242 --> 00:29:20.776
  • APPROACH, WHICH ISBASICALLY, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:29:20.776 --> 00:29:21.710
  • BASICALLY, YOU KNOW,"GOD'S DONE WITH THIS.
  • 00:29:21.710 --> 00:29:22.310
  • "GOD'S DONE WITH THIS.GET OUT OF IT.
  • 00:29:22.310 --> 00:29:23.378
  • GET OUT OF IT.GET AWAY.
  • 00:29:23.378 --> 00:29:24.513
  • GET AWAY.SEPARATE, PURIFY YOURSELF."
  • 00:29:24.513 --> 00:29:26.114
  • SEPARATE, PURIFY YOURSELF."THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
  • 00:29:26.114 --> 00:29:27.649
  • THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BETHE KIND OF HOLINESS THAT JESUS
  • 00:29:27.649 --> 00:29:29.551
  • THE KIND OF HOLINESS THAT JESUSMANIFESTED IN HIS OWN LIFE.
  • 00:29:29.551 --> 00:29:30.819
  • MANIFESTED IN HIS OWN LIFE.I MEAN, HE SEEMED TO BE
  • 00:29:30.819 --> 00:29:31.720
  • I MEAN, HE SEEMED TO BESOMEONE THAT, IN MANY
  • 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:32.420
  • SOMEONE THAT, IN MANYWAYS, CARED ABOUT IT AND SO--
  • 00:29:32.420 --> 00:29:33.989
  • WAYS, CARED ABOUT IT AND SO--AND THEN THE INSTINCT
  • 00:29:33.989 --> 00:29:35.190
  • AND THEN THE INSTINCTOF SELF-JUSTIFICATION,
  • 00:29:35.190 --> 00:29:36.625
  • OF SELF-JUSTIFICATION,WHICH IS THE RELIGIOUS
  • 00:29:36.625 --> 00:29:37.926
  • WHICH IS THE RELIGIOUSAPPROACH, WHICH IS "WE'LL
  • 00:29:37.926 --> 00:29:38.527
  • APPROACH, WHICH IS "WE'LLSET UP A MORAL CODE,"
  • 00:29:38.527 --> 00:29:40.428
  • SET UP A MORAL CODE,"NORMALLY THAT WE'RE PRETTY
  • 00:29:40.428 --> 00:29:41.062
  • NORMALLY THAT WE'RE PRETTYGOOD AT DOING IN PUBLIC
  • 00:29:41.062 --> 00:29:43.665
  • GOOD AT DOING IN PUBLICAND OFTEN STRUGGLE WITH IN
  • 00:29:43.665 --> 00:29:44.232
  • AND OFTEN STRUGGLE WITH INPRIVATE.
  • 00:29:44.232 --> 00:29:45.467
  • PRIVATE."WE'RE GONNA SET THIS UP,
  • 00:29:45.467 --> 00:29:46.802
  • "WE'RE GONNA SET THIS UP,AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE
  • 00:29:46.802 --> 00:29:47.435
  • AND THAT'S GONNA BE THEVERDICT BY WHICH WE JUDGE
  • 00:29:47.435 --> 00:29:48.703
  • VERDICT BY WHICH WE JUDGEEVERYBODY ELSE."
  • 00:29:48.703 --> 00:29:49.271
  • EVERYBODY ELSE."AND SO I THINK MANY,
  • 00:29:49.271 --> 00:29:51.406
  • AND SO I THINK MANY,MANY CHURCHES THAT THEY
  • 00:29:51.406 --> 00:29:52.707
  • MANY CHURCHES THAT THEYGET A GOSPEL OF WORKS
  • 00:29:52.707 --> 00:29:53.408
  • GET A GOSPEL OF WORKSPREACHED OR RELIGION
  • 00:29:53.408 --> 00:29:55.043
  • PREACHED OR RELIGIONPREACHED DO TREMENDOUS DAMAGE.
  • 00:29:55.043 --> 00:29:56.578
  • PREACHED DO TREMENDOUS DAMAGE.AND SO I THINK, HERE,
  • 00:29:56.578 --> 00:29:57.412
  • AND SO I THINK, HERE,JESUS STANDS AT THE
  • 00:29:57.412 --> 00:29:59.114
  • JESUS STANDS AT THECROSSROAD OF ALL OF THESE
  • 00:29:59.114 --> 00:29:59.781
  • CROSSROAD OF ALL OF THESEPOWER STRUCTURES WITH A
  • 00:29:59.781 --> 00:30:01.550
  • POWER STRUCTURES WITH AMESSAGE OF SUFFERING LOVE,
  • 00:30:01.550 --> 00:30:02.684
  • MESSAGE OF SUFFERING LOVE,A MESSAGE OF BEING A
  • 00:30:02.684 --> 00:30:03.919
  • A MESSAGE OF BEING AFRIEND OF SINNERS, A
  • 00:30:03.919 --> 00:30:06.121
  • FRIEND OF SINNERS, AMESSAGE OF SEEKING TO
  • 00:30:06.121 --> 00:30:07.656
  • MESSAGE OF SEEKING TODESTROY OUR TRUE ENEMY,
  • 00:30:07.656 --> 00:30:08.824
  • DESTROY OUR TRUE ENEMY,WHICH IS SIN, SATAN,
  • 00:30:08.824 --> 00:30:10.325
  • WHICH IS SIN, SATAN,DEATH, AND HELL.
  • 00:30:10.325 --> 00:30:12.627
  • DEATH, AND HELL.IF YOU STUDY THE GOSPELS,
  • 00:30:12.627 --> 00:30:13.295
  • IF YOU STUDY THE GOSPELS,THIS SEEMS TO BE THE FRONTS
  • 00:30:13.295 --> 00:30:15.797
  • THIS SEEMS TO BE THE FRONTSTHAT JESUS IS AT WAR WITH,
  • 00:30:15.797 --> 00:30:16.431
  • THAT JESUS IS AT WAR WITH,AND THEN HE'S BRINGING A
  • 00:30:16.431 --> 00:30:17.465
  • AND THEN HE'S BRINGING AKINGDOM OF LOVE AND GRACE
  • 00:30:17.465 --> 00:30:18.133
  • KINGDOM OF LOVE AND GRACEAND IS INVITING US TO BE A
  • 00:30:18.133 --> 00:30:20.502
  • AND IS INVITING US TO BE APART OF IT.
  • 00:30:20.502 --> 00:30:21.269
  • PART OF IT.SO JESUS IS ALWAYS--
  • 00:30:21.269 --> 00:30:22.704
  • SO JESUS IS ALWAYS--THERE'S A TENSION WITH
  • 00:30:22.704 --> 00:30:24.039
  • THERE'S A TENSION WITHJESUS AND POWER ON THE
  • 00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:24.906
  • JESUS AND POWER ON THEEARTH, AND HE'S INVITING
  • 00:30:24.906 --> 00:30:26.208
  • EARTH, AND HE'S INVITINGUS TO BE PART OF THE
  • 00:30:26.208 --> 00:30:26.708
  • US TO BE PART OF THEKINGDOM OF LOVE.
  • 00:30:26.708 --> 00:30:28.743
  • KINGDOM OF LOVE.- MATT: SO WOULD YOU AGREE
  • 00:30:28.743 --> 00:30:30.145
  • - MATT: SO WOULD YOU AGREEWITH A STATEMENT THAT MUCH
  • 00:30:30.145 --> 00:30:33.048
  • WITH A STATEMENT THAT MUCHOF THE MODERN-DAY CHURCH
  • 00:30:33.048 --> 00:30:35.917
  • OF THE MODERN-DAY CHURCHSELF-IDENTIFIES WITH ONE
  • 00:30:35.917 --> 00:30:37.853
  • SELF-IDENTIFIES WITH ONEOF THESE FOUR TACTICS AND
  • 00:30:37.853 --> 00:30:39.421
  • OF THESE FOUR TACTICS ANDIS MOST LIKELY MISGUIDED
  • 00:30:39.421 --> 00:30:41.489
  • IS MOST LIKELY MISGUIDEDIN SOME WAY?
  • 00:30:41.489 --> 00:30:42.123
  • IN SOME WAY?- JON: I MEAN, I WOULD--
  • 00:30:42.123 --> 00:30:43.725
  • - JON: I MEAN, I WOULD--LOOK, MAN--
  • 00:30:43.725 --> 00:30:44.860
  • LOOK, MAN--[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:44.860 --> 00:30:45.527
  • [LAUGHTER]I DON'T WANNA FOLLOW IN
  • 00:30:45.527 --> 00:30:46.895
  • I DON'T WANNA FOLLOW INTHE PHARISEES' APPROACH,
  • 00:30:46.895 --> 00:30:47.529
  • THE PHARISEES' APPROACH,AND NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:30:47.529 --> 00:30:48.230
  • AND NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN,I'M JUDGING, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:30:48.230 --> 00:30:48.830
  • I'M JUDGING, YOU KNOW.I'M NOT HERE AS A JUDGE
  • 00:30:48.830 --> 00:30:50.265
  • I'M NOT HERE AS A JUDGEAND VERDICT.
  • 00:30:50.265 --> 00:30:51.867
  • AND VERDICT.I'M JUST A LOCAL PASTOR
  • 00:30:51.867 --> 00:30:52.434
  • I'M JUST A LOCAL PASTORTRYIN' TO SERVE, BUT I
  • 00:30:52.434 --> 00:30:53.768
  • TRYIN' TO SERVE, BUT IWOULD SAY THIS: A LOT OF
  • 00:30:53.768 --> 00:30:54.402
  • WOULD SAY THIS: A LOT OFUS HAVE INSTINCTS THAT WE
  • 00:30:54.402 --> 00:30:54.970
  • US HAVE INSTINCTS THAT WEARE PRONE TOWARDS, AND
  • 00:30:54.970 --> 00:30:56.137
  • ARE PRONE TOWARDS, ANDTHOSE INSTINCTS ARE NOT
  • 00:30:56.137 --> 00:30:56.738
  • THOSE INSTINCTS ARE NOTTHE INSTINCTS OF WALKING
  • 00:30:56.738 --> 00:30:57.906
  • THE INSTINCTS OF WALKINGIN THE SPIRIT.
  • 00:30:57.906 --> 00:30:58.506
  • IN THE SPIRIT.THEY'RE THE INSTINCTS OF
  • 00:30:58.506 --> 00:30:59.040
  • THEY'RE THE INSTINCTS OFTHE FLESH.
  • 00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:00.175
  • THE FLESH.EVEN WHEN YOU READ
  • 00:31:00.175 --> 00:31:01.509
  • EVEN WHEN YOU READGALATIANS 5 AND A
  • 00:31:01.509 --> 00:31:02.944
  • GALATIANS 5 AND ACONTRAST, HIS LIFE IN THE
  • 00:31:02.944 --> 00:31:04.246
  • CONTRAST, HIS LIFE IN THESPIRIT AND HIS LIFE IN THE
  • 00:31:04.246 --> 00:31:05.146
  • SPIRIT AND HIS LIFE IN THEFLESH, IN THE FLESH, IT
  • 00:31:05.146 --> 00:31:07.482
  • FLESH, IN THE FLESH, ITCONTAINS ALL OF THE THINGS
  • 00:31:07.482 --> 00:31:08.817
  • CONTAINS ALL OF THE THINGSLIKE SELFISH AMBITION AND
  • 00:31:08.817 --> 00:31:10.952
  • LIKE SELFISH AMBITION ANDDEBAUCHERY AND RIVALRY,
  • 00:31:10.952 --> 00:31:12.888
  • DEBAUCHERY AND RIVALRY,AND IN MANY OF THE
  • 00:31:12.888 --> 00:31:13.889
  • AND IN MANY OF THEGOSPELS, WHEN PAUL'S
  • 00:31:13.889 --> 00:31:15.056
  • GOSPELS, WHEN PAUL'STRYING TO, SORT OF, IRON
  • 00:31:15.056 --> 00:31:16.925
  • TRYING TO, SORT OF, IRONOUT THE THEOLOGY AND THE
  • 00:31:16.925 --> 00:31:19.227
  • OUT THE THEOLOGY AND THEDISCIPLESHIP OF THESE NEW
  • 00:31:19.227 --> 00:31:21.096
  • DISCIPLESHIP OF THESE NEWBELIEVERS, HE OFTEN HAS TO
  • 00:31:21.096 --> 00:31:22.397
  • BELIEVERS, HE OFTEN HAS TOWRITE TO THEM, LIKE, I'M
  • 00:31:22.397 --> 00:31:24.399
  • WRITE TO THEM, LIKE, I'MTHINKING PARTICULARLY
  • 00:31:24.399 --> 00:31:25.000
  • THINKING PARTICULARLYPHILIPPIANS CHAPTER 2.
  • 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:25.700
  • PHILIPPIANS CHAPTER 2.HE SAYS, "DO NOTHING OUT
  • 00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:27.335
  • HE SAYS, "DO NOTHING OUTOF SELFISH AMBITION OR
  • 00:31:27.335 --> 00:31:28.036
  • OF SELFISH AMBITION ORVAIN CONCEIT, BUT IN
  • 00:31:28.036 --> 00:31:29.671
  • VAIN CONCEIT, BUT INHUMILITY, CONSIDER OTHERS
  • 00:31:29.671 --> 00:31:30.839
  • HUMILITY, CONSIDER OTHERSBETTER THAN YOURSELVES."
  • 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:31.473
  • BETTER THAN YOURSELVES."WHY DOES HE HAVE TO WRITE
  • 00:31:31.473 --> 00:31:32.007
  • WHY DOES HE HAVE TO WRITETHAT?
  • 00:31:32.007 --> 00:31:32.607
  • THAT?BECAUSE, IN THE CHURCH,
  • 00:31:32.607 --> 00:31:33.441
  • BECAUSE, IN THE CHURCH,THEY WERE DRIVEN BY
  • 00:31:33.441 --> 00:31:34.109
  • THEY WERE DRIVEN BYSELFISH AMBITION AND VAIN
  • 00:31:34.109 --> 00:31:35.844
  • SELFISH AMBITION AND VAINCONCEIT, AND ARROGANCE.
  • 00:31:35.844 --> 00:31:37.178
  • CONCEIT, AND ARROGANCE.AND SO JUST BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:31:37.178 --> 00:31:38.079
  • AND SO JUST BECAUSE YOUBECOME A FOLLOWER OF JESUS
  • 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.382
  • BECOME A FOLLOWER OF JESUSAND YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BY
  • 00:31:40.382 --> 00:31:41.082
  • AND YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BYGOD'S GRACE, POSITIONALLY,
  • 00:31:41.082 --> 00:31:42.050
  • GOD'S GRACE, POSITIONALLY,YOU STILL HAVE THAT
  • 00:31:42.050 --> 00:31:44.119
  • YOU STILL HAVE THATSANCTIFICATION PROCESS OF
  • 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:44.586
  • SANCTIFICATION PROCESS OFWALKIN' IT OUT.
  • 00:31:44.586 --> 00:31:46.187
  • WALKIN' IT OUT.- LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:31:46.187 --> 00:31:46.821
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.- MATT: SO HERE'S A
  • 00:31:46.821 --> 00:31:49.324
  • - MATT: SO HERE'S AINTERESTING KIND OF DILEMMA.
  • 00:31:49.324 --> 00:31:50.659
  • INTERESTING KIND OF DILEMMA.MY FATHER MISSED ALL OF
  • 00:31:50.659 --> 00:31:55.163
  • MY FATHER MISSED ALL OFTHE WARS.
  • 00:31:55.163 --> 00:31:56.064
  • THE WARS.HE WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH, OF
  • 00:31:56.064 --> 00:31:58.600
  • HE WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH, OFCOURSE, FOR WORLD WAR II,
  • 00:31:58.600 --> 00:31:59.267
  • COURSE, FOR WORLD WAR II,AND HE WAS TOO OLD FOR
  • 00:31:59.267 --> 00:32:00.402
  • AND HE WAS TOO OLD FORVIETNAM AND THAT KIND OF
  • 00:32:00.402 --> 00:32:01.069
  • VIETNAM AND THAT KIND OFTHING, SO I WAS REGISTERED
  • 00:32:01.069 --> 00:32:06.308
  • THING, SO I WAS REGISTEREDFOR VIETNAM, BUT I WAS STILL
  • 00:32:06.308 --> 00:32:07.809
  • FOR VIETNAM, BUT I WAS STILLTOO YOUNG FOR VIETNAM--
  • 00:32:07.809 --> 00:32:08.643
  • TOO YOUNG FOR VIETNAM--ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
  • 00:32:08.643 --> 00:32:11.379
  • ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.SO BASICALLY, I'M GONNA
  • 00:32:11.379 --> 00:32:13.415
  • SO BASICALLY, I'M GONNAUSE A MILITARY KIND OF
  • 00:32:13.415 --> 00:32:14.849
  • USE A MILITARY KIND OFANALOGY HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT--
  • 00:32:14.849 --> 00:32:17.752
  • ANALOGY HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT--YOU KNOW, I'M NOT
  • 00:32:17.752 --> 00:32:18.586
  • YOU KNOW, I'M NOTSELF-IDENTIFYING WITH IT,
  • 00:32:18.586 --> 00:32:20.155
  • SELF-IDENTIFYING WITH IT,REALLY, IN ANY WAY.
  • 00:32:20.155 --> 00:32:24.092
  • REALLY, IN ANY WAY.AND SO, THE IDEA THAT
  • 00:32:24.092 --> 00:32:26.661
  • AND SO, THE IDEA THATSOMEBODY, THOUGH, IS A WARRIOR,
  • 00:32:26.661 --> 00:32:29.297
  • SOMEBODY, THOUGH, IS A WARRIOR,THEY GREW UP IN A WARRIOR'S
  • 00:32:29.297 --> 00:32:29.864
  • THEY GREW UP IN A WARRIOR'SHOME, AND MILITARILY,
  • 00:32:29.864 --> 00:32:32.834
  • HOME, AND MILITARILY,THEY'RE THINKING THE ANSWER
  • 00:32:32.834 --> 00:32:34.970
  • THEY'RE THINKING THE ANSWERREALLY IS MILITARILY,
  • 00:32:34.970 --> 00:32:36.137
  • REALLY IS MILITARILY,"AMERICA HAS THE NUMBER ONE
  • 00:32:36.137 --> 00:32:37.172
  • "AMERICA HAS THE NUMBER ONEMILITARY IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:32:37.172 --> 00:32:37.906
  • MILITARY IN THE WORLD.WHY DON'T WE JUST GO AND
  • 00:32:37.906 --> 00:32:39.474
  • WHY DON'T WE JUST GO ANDSUBDUE ALL THESE NATIONS,
  • 00:32:39.474 --> 00:32:40.575
  • SUBDUE ALL THESE NATIONS,AND THEN CHRISTIANITY WILL
  • 00:32:40.575 --> 00:32:42.677
  • AND THEN CHRISTIANITY WILLSPREAD?"
  • 00:32:42.677 --> 00:32:43.878
  • SPREAD?"OKAY, THAT IDEA IS EXTREME
  • 00:32:43.878 --> 00:32:46.781
  • OKAY, THAT IDEA IS EXTREMEAND RIDICULOUS IN A LOT OF
  • 00:32:46.781 --> 00:32:51.419
  • AND RIDICULOUS IN A LOT OFWAYS, BUT THERE ARE, KIND
  • 00:32:51.419 --> 00:32:53.021
  • WAYS, BUT THERE ARE, KINDOF, PROPENSITIES INSIDE OF
  • 00:32:53.021 --> 00:32:55.423
  • OF, PROPENSITIES INSIDE OFA WARRIOR TO CONQUER, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:32:55.423 --> 00:32:55.957
  • A WARRIOR TO CONQUER, YOU KNOW?AND SO WHAT IS THAT
  • 00:32:55.957 --> 00:32:59.260
  • AND SO WHAT IS THATCONFLICT?
  • 00:32:59.260 --> 00:33:00.662
  • CONFLICT?IF WE USE THIS, KIND OF,
  • 00:33:00.662 --> 00:33:01.930
  • IF WE USE THIS, KIND OF,MILITARY SOLDIER WITH A
  • 00:33:01.930 --> 00:33:04.866
  • MILITARY SOLDIER WITH ABUNCH OF EPAULETS ON THEIR
  • 00:33:04.866 --> 00:33:06.134
  • BUNCH OF EPAULETS ON THEIRSHOULDERS AND BADGES OF HONOR,
  • 00:33:06.134 --> 00:33:07.836
  • SHOULDERS AND BADGES OF HONOR,AND THEY'RE A WARRIOR,
  • 00:33:07.836 --> 00:33:09.137
  • AND THEY'RE A WARRIOR,AND THEY HAVE THIS STRONG
  • 00:33:09.137 --> 00:33:10.739
  • AND THEY HAVE THIS STRONGDESIRE TO SEE CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:33:10.739 --> 00:33:12.273
  • DESIRE TO SEE CHRISTIANITYSPREAD, SO WHAT IS THAT
  • 00:33:12.273 --> 00:33:13.675
  • SPREAD, SO WHAT IS THATINTERNAL BATTLE ALL ABOUT
  • 00:33:13.675 --> 00:33:16.311
  • INTERNAL BATTLE ALL ABOUTINSIDE OF US OR SOMEONE
  • 00:33:16.311 --> 00:33:18.480
  • INSIDE OF US OR SOMEONEDRIVEN TO BE PRESIDENT
  • 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:19.247
  • DRIVEN TO BE PRESIDENTOF THE UNITED STATES
  • 00:33:19.247 --> 00:33:19.781
  • OF THE UNITED STATESBECAUSE THEY'LL BE
  • 00:33:19.781 --> 00:33:20.782
  • BECAUSE THEY'LL BEABLE TO SOLVE ALL THE
  • 00:33:20.782 --> 00:33:23.618
  • ABLE TO SOLVE ALL THEMORAL ISSUES AND ALL THAT?
  • 00:33:23.618 --> 00:33:24.252
  • MORAL ISSUES AND ALL THAT?GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, BUT
  • 00:33:24.252 --> 00:33:24.986
  • GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, BUTBASICALLY-- BUT THERE ARE
  • 00:33:24.986 --> 00:33:27.322
  • BASICALLY-- BUT THERE ARETHESE VISIONS INSIDE OF
  • 00:33:27.322 --> 00:33:29.491
  • THESE VISIONS INSIDE OFPEOPLE TO WIN, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:33:29.491 --> 00:33:30.825
  • PEOPLE TO WIN, YOU KNOW,THAT WE WANNA WIN, WE WANT
  • 00:33:30.825 --> 00:33:33.395
  • THAT WE WANNA WIN, WE WANTTHIS MESSAGE TO WIN, BUT A
  • 00:33:33.395 --> 00:33:35.463
  • THIS MESSAGE TO WIN, BUT ALOT OF TIMES, JUST, SAYING
  • 00:33:35.463 --> 00:33:36.631
  • LOT OF TIMES, JUST, SAYINGDIE TO THOSE THINGS.
  • 00:33:36.631 --> 00:33:37.899
  • DIE TO THOSE THINGS.SO HOW DO YOU IRON OUT ALL
  • 00:33:37.899 --> 00:33:40.068
  • SO HOW DO YOU IRON OUT ALLTHOSE INTERNAL CONFLICTS
  • 00:33:40.068 --> 00:33:42.237
  • THOSE INTERNAL CONFLICTSTO WIN BUT DO IT IN A
  • 00:33:42.237 --> 00:33:45.040
  • TO WIN BUT DO IT IN ACERTAIN WAY?
  • 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:45.774
  • CERTAIN WAY?- JON: WELL, I THINK WE USED--
  • 00:33:45.774 --> 00:33:47.242
  • - JON: WELL, I THINK WE USED--I THINK THE CLUE IS IN THE
  • 00:33:47.242 --> 00:33:47.942
  • I THINK THE CLUE IS IN THEPHRASE THAT YOU USED THE TERM
  • 00:33:47.942 --> 00:33:50.178
  • AND PAUL USES THIS.
  • 00:33:51.413 --> 00:33:52.047
  • AND PAUL USES THIS.THIS IS ONE OF HIS CENTRAL
  • 00:33:52.047 --> 00:33:52.414
  • THIS IS ONE OF HIS CENTRALMETAPHORS.
  • 00:33:52.414 --> 00:33:53.281
  • METAPHORS.2 TIMOTHY 2, HE TALKS
  • 00:33:53.281 --> 00:33:54.816
  • 2 TIMOTHY 2, HE TALKSABOUT BEING A SOLDIER AND
  • 00:33:54.816 --> 00:33:55.683
  • ABOUT BEING A SOLDIER ANDNOT GETTING ENTANGLED IN
  • 00:33:55.683 --> 00:33:56.918
  • NOT GETTING ENTANGLED INCIVILIAN AFFAIRS.
  • 00:33:56.918 --> 00:33:59.454
  • CIVILIAN AFFAIRS.IN EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6, HE
  • 00:33:59.454 --> 00:34:00.955
  • IN EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6, HESAYS, "OUR BATTLE," SO,
  • 00:34:00.955 --> 00:34:01.723
  • SAYS, "OUR BATTLE," SO,AGAIN, MILITARY LANGUAGE,
  • 00:34:01.723 --> 00:34:02.624
  • AGAIN, MILITARY LANGUAGE,BUT HE SAYS "IT'S NOT
  • 00:34:02.624 --> 00:34:03.591
  • BUT HE SAYS "IT'S NOTAGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD.
  • 00:34:03.591 --> 00:34:05.026
  • AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD.IT'S AGAINST
  • 00:34:05.026 --> 00:34:05.894
  • IT'S AGAINSTPRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS."
  • 00:34:05.894 --> 00:34:08.363
  • PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS."AND SO WE ARE CALLED--
  • 00:34:08.363 --> 00:34:09.197
  • AND SO WE ARE CALLED--AND SO USING THAT PHRASE AGAIN,
  • 00:34:09.197 --> 00:34:09.864
  • AND SO USING THAT PHRASE AGAIN,WE'RE CALLED TO BE
  • 00:34:09.864 --> 00:34:11.566
  • WE'RE CALLED TO BEPRAYER WARRIORS.
  • 00:34:11.566 --> 00:34:13.001
  • PRAYER WARRIORS.AND SO THE BATTLE,
  • 00:34:13.001 --> 00:34:14.569
  • AND SO THE BATTLE,I THINK, IT'S DUE TO OUR
  • 00:34:14.569 --> 00:34:15.537
  • I THINK, IT'S DUE TO OURLACK OF ATTENDANCE IN THE
  • 00:34:15.537 --> 00:34:16.137
  • LACK OF ATTENDANCE IN THEPLACE OF PRAYER AND OUR
  • 00:34:16.137 --> 00:34:19.641
  • PLACE OF PRAYER AND OURPOWERLESSNESS THAT MAKES
  • 00:34:19.641 --> 00:34:21.209
  • POWERLESSNESS THAT MAKESUS RESORT TO THESE OTHER
  • 00:34:21.209 --> 00:34:22.577
  • US RESORT TO THESE OTHERMECHANISMS, AND WE GET
  • 00:34:22.577 --> 00:34:25.380
  • WE GET SEDUCED BY THE
  • 00:34:27.115 --> 00:34:27.649
  • WE GET SEDUCED BY THEPOWERS OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:34:27.649 --> 00:34:28.483
  • POWERS OF THE WORLD.WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE
  • 00:34:28.483 --> 00:34:29.117
  • WE THINK THAT THIS IS THEWAY IT'S ACCOMPLISHED, BUT
  • 00:34:29.117 --> 00:34:29.751
  • WAY IT'S ACCOMPLISHED, BUTTHE KINGDOM ADVANCES
  • 00:34:29.751 --> 00:34:30.485
  • THE KINGDOM ADVANCESPRIMARILY THROUGH PRAYER
  • 00:34:30.485 --> 00:34:32.720
  • PRIMARILY THROUGH PRAYERAND PRIMARILY THROUGH
  • 00:34:32.720 --> 00:34:33.354
  • AND PRIMARILY THROUGHSUFFERING LOVE, AND IF YOU
  • 00:34:33.354 --> 00:34:34.489
  • SUFFERING LOVE, AND IF YOUGO BACK THROUGH CHURCH
  • 00:34:34.489 --> 00:34:35.690
  • GO BACK THROUGH CHURCHHISTORY, THAT'S THE WAY
  • 00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:36.491
  • HISTORY, THAT'S THE WAYYOU SEE THE CHURCHES ARE
  • 00:34:36.491 --> 00:34:37.692
  • YOU SEE THE CHURCHES AREITS BEST WHEN IT'S A
  • 00:34:37.692 --> 00:34:38.893
  • ITS BEST WHEN IT'S APRAYING CHURCH, AND THE
  • 00:34:38.893 --> 00:34:40.095
  • PRAYING CHURCH, AND THECHURCH IS AT ITS BEST WHEN
  • 00:34:40.095 --> 00:34:41.162
  • CHURCH IS AT ITS BEST WHENIT IS SUFFERING FOR OTHERS
  • 00:34:41.162 --> 00:34:44.666
  • IT IS SUFFERING FOR OTHERSRATHER THAN DESTROYING OTHERS.
  • 00:34:44.666 --> 00:34:45.233
  • RATHER THAN DESTROYING OTHERS.- MATT: EVEN IF THOSE
  • 00:34:45.233 --> 00:34:45.700
  • - MATT: EVEN IF THOSETACTICS ARE
  • 00:34:45.700 --> 00:34:47.502
  • TACTICS ARECOUNTERINTUITIVE?
  • 00:34:47.502 --> 00:34:48.303
  • COUNTERINTUITIVE?- JON: YEAH, I MEAN, YOU
  • 00:34:48.303 --> 00:34:49.804
  • - JON: YEAH, I MEAN, YOUWANNA SEE REAL STRENGTH?
  • 00:34:49.804 --> 00:34:51.539
  • WANNA SEE REAL STRENGTH?YOU WANNA SEE REAL, REAL
  • 00:34:51.539 --> 00:34:54.809
  • YOU WANNA SEE REAL, REALHONOR AND COURAGE?
  • 00:34:54.809 --> 00:34:56.444
  • HONOR AND COURAGE?SUFFER.
  • 00:34:56.444 --> 00:34:57.112
  • SUFFER.THE VOLUNTARY INSTINCT NOT
  • 00:34:57.112 --> 00:35:01.983
  • THE VOLUNTARY INSTINCT NOTTO, YOU KNOW, GIVE BACK OR TO
  • 00:35:01.983 --> 00:35:03.918
  • TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE BACK OR TOGET BACK, BUT SUFFERING LOVE.
  • 00:35:03.918 --> 00:35:04.586
  • GET BACK, BUT SUFFERING LOVE.THAT IS CHRIST ON THE CROSS.
  • 00:35:04.586 --> 00:35:05.320
  • THAT IS CHRIST ON THE CROSS.HE TOOK THE WEAPON
  • 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.388
  • HE TOOK THE WEAPONBASICALLY DESIGNED TO
  • 00:35:07.388 --> 00:35:10.024
  • BASICALLY DESIGNED TOCRUSH THE ENEMIES, TO
  • 00:35:10.024 --> 00:35:11.726
  • CRUSH THE ENEMIES, TOCRUSH THE ENEMIES OF ROME,
  • 00:35:11.726 --> 00:35:13.695
  • CRUSH THE ENEMIES OF ROME,AND HE TURNED THAT INTO
  • 00:35:13.695 --> 00:35:14.963
  • AND HE TURNED THAT INTOTHE VERY THING THAT
  • 00:35:14.963 --> 00:35:16.231
  • THE VERY THING THATBROUGHT ROME TO ITS KNEES.
  • 00:35:16.231 --> 00:35:16.764
  • BROUGHT ROME TO ITS KNEES.I MEAN, THIS IS
  • 00:35:16.764 --> 00:35:17.565
  • I MEAN, THIS ISBREATHTAKING TO ME.
  • 00:35:17.565 --> 00:35:18.700
  • BREATHTAKING TO ME.PERHAPS, LET ME GIVE YOU A
  • 00:35:18.700 --> 00:35:20.068
  • PERHAPS, LET ME GIVE YOU AMODERN ANALOGY ABOUT THE
  • 00:35:20.068 --> 00:35:21.669
  • MODERN ANALOGY ABOUT THEPOWER OF SUFFERING LOVE.
  • 00:35:21.669 --> 00:35:22.303
  • POWER OF SUFFERING LOVE.I'M GOING TO IMAGINE RIGHT
  • 00:35:22.303 --> 00:35:24.939
  • I'M GOING TO IMAGINE RIGHTNOW, IN THE UNITED STATES,
  • 00:35:24.939 --> 00:35:26.074
  • NOW, IN THE UNITED STATES,THERE'S A TERRORIST, AND
  • 00:35:26.074 --> 00:35:27.976
  • THERE'S A TERRORIST, ANDHE'S BASICALLY ANNOUNCING
  • 00:35:27.976 --> 00:35:28.610
  • HE'S BASICALLY ANNOUNCINGTHERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER
  • 00:35:28.610 --> 00:35:30.211
  • THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHERKINGDOM, AND HE'S TRYIN'
  • 00:35:30.211 --> 00:35:30.778
  • KINGDOM, AND HE'S TRYIN'TO INSTITUTE RULE, AND
  • 00:35:30.778 --> 00:35:33.148
  • TO INSTITUTE RULE, ANDTHEY CATCH HIM, AND THEN
  • 00:35:33.148 --> 00:35:33.915
  • THEY CATCH HIM, AND THENHE'S EXECUTED, PUT TO
  • 00:35:33.915 --> 00:35:35.884
  • HE'S EXECUTED, PUT TODEATH BY THE UNITED
  • 00:35:35.884 --> 00:35:36.518
  • DEATH BY THE UNITEDSTATES, AND THEN WE FEEL
  • 00:35:36.518 --> 00:35:38.153
  • STATES, AND THEN WE FEELLIKE THE THREAT IS OVER.
  • 00:35:38.153 --> 00:35:39.220
  • LIKE THE THREAT IS OVER.YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS LATER
  • 00:35:39.220 --> 00:35:40.288
  • YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS LATEROR WHATEVER, THERE'S THESE
  • 00:35:40.288 --> 00:35:41.689
  • OR WHATEVER, THERE'S THESETROUBLING RUMORS ALL OVER
  • 00:35:41.689 --> 00:35:43.258
  • TROUBLING RUMORS ALL OVERTHE WORLD THAT THAT
  • 00:35:43.258 --> 00:35:44.859
  • THE WORLD THAT THATCRIMINAL THAT WE KILLED IS
  • 00:35:44.859 --> 00:35:46.694
  • CRIMINAL THAT WE KILLED ISALIVE AGAIN, AND HE'S
  • 00:35:46.694 --> 00:35:47.862
  • ALIVE AGAIN, AND HE'SSTARTING A MOVEMENT OF
  • 00:35:47.862 --> 00:35:49.130
  • STARTING A MOVEMENT OFRESISTANCE IN LOVE, AND
  • 00:35:49.130 --> 00:35:50.131
  • RESISTANCE IN LOVE, ANDYOU WOULD JUST FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:35:50.131 --> 00:35:51.232
  • YOU WOULD JUST FEEL LIKE,"THAT'S NOT TRUE.
  • 00:35:51.232 --> 00:35:51.833
  • "THAT'S NOT TRUE.DEAD PEOPLE DON'T RISE
  • 00:35:51.833 --> 00:35:53.001
  • DEAD PEOPLE DON'T RISEFROM THE DEAD," OR
  • 00:35:53.001 --> 00:35:53.768
  • FROM THE DEAD," ORWHATEVER, AND YOU WOULD
  • 00:35:53.768 --> 00:35:54.669
  • WHATEVER, AND YOU WOULDSTRUGGLE TO BELIEVE THAT,
  • 00:35:54.669 --> 00:35:55.803
  • STRUGGLE TO BELIEVE THAT,BUT I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE
  • 00:35:55.803 --> 00:35:58.273
  • BUT I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE300 YEARS FROM NOW, THE
  • 00:35:58.273 --> 00:35:59.574
  • 300 YEARS FROM NOW, THEUNITED STATES, BEING A
  • 00:35:59.574 --> 00:36:02.143
  • UNITED STATES, BEING ANATION THAT BOWS ITS KNEE
  • 00:36:02.143 --> 00:36:02.844
  • NATION THAT BOWS ITS KNEETO THAT PERSON AS THE
  • 00:36:02.844 --> 00:36:05.513
  • TO THAT PERSON AS THEMESSIAH AND LORD OF
  • 00:36:05.513 --> 00:36:06.114
  • MESSIAH AND LORD OFHISTORY, YOU WOULD SAY,
  • 00:36:06.114 --> 00:36:07.182
  • HISTORY, YOU WOULD SAY,"THERE'S NO WAY THAT IS
  • 00:36:07.182 --> 00:36:07.882
  • "THERE'S NO WAY THAT ISPOSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY
  • 00:36:07.882 --> 00:36:08.983
  • POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S EXACTLYWHAT CHRISTIANITY WAS.
  • 00:36:08.983 --> 00:36:11.553
  • WHAT CHRISTIANITY WAS.JESUS DIES ON A CROSS IN A
  • 00:36:11.553 --> 00:36:13.321
  • JESUS DIES ON A CROSS IN ATINY LITTLE OUTPOST IN
  • 00:36:13.321 --> 00:36:14.989
  • TINY LITTLE OUTPOST INROME, AND THEN 300 YEARS
  • 00:36:14.989 --> 00:36:15.790
  • ROME, AND THEN 300 YEARSLATER, THE EMPIRE IS
  • 00:36:15.790 --> 00:36:17.759
  • LATER, THE EMPIRE ISBROUGHT TO ITS KNEES.
  • 00:36:17.759 --> 00:36:20.261
  • BROUGHT TO ITS KNEES.IT'S BROUGHT TO ITS KNEES,
  • 00:36:20.261 --> 00:36:20.862
  • IT'S BROUGHT TO ITS KNEES,AND HOW DOES IT DO IT?
  • 00:36:20.862 --> 00:36:21.362
  • AND HOW DOES IT DO IT?IT DOES IT BECAUSE
  • 00:36:21.362 --> 00:36:22.530
  • IT DOES IT BECAUSECHRISTIANS SUFFER.
  • 00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:23.131
  • CHRISTIANS SUFFER.THEY LOVE THEIR ENEMIES.
  • 00:36:23.131 --> 00:36:24.732
  • THEY LOVE THEIR ENEMIES.THEY CARE FOR THE POOR.
  • 00:36:24.732 --> 00:36:25.333
  • THEY CARE FOR THE POOR.THEY HAVE A HOLISTIC
  • 00:36:25.333 --> 00:36:26.234
  • THEY HAVE A HOLISTICVISION OF LOVE AND CARE
  • 00:36:26.234 --> 00:36:27.869
  • VISION OF LOVE AND CAREAND LIFE.
  • 00:36:27.869 --> 00:36:29.571
  • AND LIFE.THEY BASICALLY BECOME A
  • 00:36:29.571 --> 00:36:31.172
  • THEY BASICALLY BECOME ARECONCILING PRESENCE.
  • 00:36:31.172 --> 00:36:33.041
  • RECONCILING PRESENCE.THEY'VE MOVED TO THE CITIES.
  • 00:36:33.041 --> 00:36:34.175
  • THEY'VE MOVED TO THE CITIES.THEY WELCOME EVERYBODY IN,
  • 00:36:34.175 --> 00:36:35.176
  • THEY WELCOME EVERYBODY IN,AND PEOPLE LITERALLY SAY,
  • 00:36:35.176 --> 00:36:36.144
  • AND PEOPLE LITERALLY SAY,"WHAT IS THIS OTHERWORLDLY
  • 00:36:36.144 --> 00:36:38.046
  • "WHAT IS THIS OTHERWORLDLYLOVE?"
  • 00:36:38.046 --> 00:36:40.215
  • LOVE?"AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT
  • 00:36:40.215 --> 00:36:41.082
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUTLIFTING A WEAPON, THEY
  • 00:36:41.082 --> 00:36:41.916
  • LIFTING A WEAPON, THEYCONQUERED THE GREATEST
  • 00:36:41.916 --> 00:36:42.450
  • CONQUERED THE GREATESTEMPIRE IN HISTORY.
  • 00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:43.451
  • EMPIRE IN HISTORY.THAT'S THE HISTORY AND
  • 00:36:43.451 --> 00:36:44.219
  • THAT'S THE HISTORY ANDLEGACY OF THE CHURCH.
  • 00:36:44.219 --> 00:36:45.053
  • LEGACY OF THE CHURCH.- MATT: WHAT I THINK
  • 00:36:45.053 --> 00:36:46.955
  • - MATT: WHAT I THINKWOULD BE REALLY GREAT--
  • 00:36:46.955 --> 00:36:49.290
  • WOULD BE REALLY GREAT--AND IN CASE SOME OF OUR
  • 00:36:49.290 --> 00:36:51.459
  • AND IN CASE SOME OF OURAUDIENCE JUST TUNED IN, BY
  • 00:36:51.459 --> 00:36:52.927
  • AUDIENCE JUST TUNED IN, BYTHE WAY, WELCOME TO NEW YORK,
  • 00:36:52.927 --> 00:36:54.195
  • THE WAY, WELCOME TO NEW YORK,THIS BEAUTIFUL SET THAT
  • 00:36:54.195 --> 00:36:56.664
  • THIS BEAUTIFUL SET THATWE'RE BORROWING FROM
  • 00:36:56.664 --> 00:37:00.401
  • WE'RE BORROWING FROMERIC METAXAS, RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:37:00.401 --> 00:37:01.569
  • ERIC METAXAS, RIGHT HERE.WE CALL IT STUDIO B.
  • 00:37:01.569 --> 00:37:02.237
  • WE CALL IT STUDIO B.WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY,
  • 00:37:02.237 --> 00:37:05.340
  • PASTOR JON, YOUR CHURCH IS
  • 00:37:07.375 --> 00:37:08.343
  • PASTOR JON, YOUR CHURCH ISRIGHT HERE IN NEW YORK CITY.
  • 00:37:08.343 --> 00:37:09.344
  • RIGHT HERE IN NEW YORK CITY.ALL THAT INFORMATION HAS
  • 00:37:09.344 --> 00:37:10.578
  • ALL THAT INFORMATION HASBEEN ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:37:10.578 --> 00:37:12.614
  • BEEN ON THE SCREEN.WELCOME, AGAIN.
  • 00:37:12.614 --> 00:37:15.049
  • WELCOME, AGAIN.LET ME DO ONE THING: IN
  • 00:37:15.049 --> 00:37:15.683
  • LET ME DO ONE THING: INCASE SOMEBODY WHO'S TUNED
  • 00:37:15.683 --> 00:37:19.420
  • CASE SOMEBODY WHO'S TUNEDIN, DO WHAT YOU JUST DID
  • 00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:20.255
  • IN, DO WHAT YOU JUST DIDIN 30 MINUTES IN ABOUT 3
  • 00:37:20.255 --> 00:37:22.757
  • IN 30 MINUTES IN ABOUT 3MINUTES.
  • 00:37:22.757 --> 00:37:23.224
  • MINUTES.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:37:23.224 --> 00:37:23.891
  • [LAUGHTER]KIND OF DO THE LITTLE MINI
  • 00:37:23.891 --> 00:37:28.396
  • KIND OF DO A RECAP, AND
  • 00:37:33.334 --> 00:37:35.036
  • KIND OF DO A RECAP, ANDWHAT MY HOPE HERE IS THAT,
  • 00:37:35.036 --> 00:37:35.737
  • WHAT MY HOPE HERE IS THAT,BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE
  • 00:37:35.737 --> 00:37:36.604
  • BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUEDIFFERENCE THAT WE'VE BEEN
  • 00:37:36.604 --> 00:37:37.805
  • DIFFERENCE THAT WE'VE BEENDISCUSSING TODAY, WE'VE
  • 00:37:37.805 --> 00:37:39.240
  • DISCUSSING TODAY, WE'VEBEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU
  • 00:37:39.240 --> 00:37:41.876
  • BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOUKNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE
  • 00:37:41.876 --> 00:37:42.844
  • KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THEGOOD NEWS, BUT WE'VE BEEN
  • 00:37:42.844 --> 00:37:44.912
  • GOOD NEWS, BUT WE'VE BEENTALKING ABOUT IT IN
  • 00:37:44.912 --> 00:37:46.314
  • TALKING ABOUT IT INRELATIONSHIP TO IT BEING
  • 00:37:46.314 --> 00:37:47.682
  • RELATIONSHIP TO IT BEINGCOUNTERINTUITIVE TO MOST
  • 00:37:47.682 --> 00:37:51.185
  • COUNTERINTUITIVE TO MOSTEVERY FUNCTIONALITY INSIDE
  • 00:37:51.185 --> 00:37:53.488
  • EVERY FUNCTIONALITY INSIDEOF MEN OR WOMEN TO WIN.
  • 00:37:53.488 --> 00:37:54.555
  • OF MEN OR WOMEN TO WIN."WE WANT THIS TO WIN,"
  • 00:37:54.555 --> 00:37:55.590
  • "WE WANT THIS TO WIN,"AND SOMEHOW, WE GOTTA FIGURE
  • 00:37:55.590 --> 00:37:56.791
  • AND SOMEHOW, WE GOTTA FIGUREOUT HOW TO WIN, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:37:56.791 --> 00:37:57.959
  • OUT HOW TO WIN, YOU KNOW?- LAURIE: HE DOES ANYWAY.
  • 00:37:57.959 --> 00:37:59.894
  • - LAURIE: HE DOES ANYWAY.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:37:59.894 --> 00:38:01.362
  • [LAUGHTER]- MATT: YEAH, WELL, YOU
  • 00:38:01.362 --> 00:38:02.063
  • - MATT: YEAH, WELL, YOUKNOW, MAYBE THAT'S THE
  • 00:38:02.063 --> 00:38:03.364
  • KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S THEWAY-- YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY,
  • 00:38:03.364 --> 00:38:04.499
  • WAY-- YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY,YOU KIND OF FEEL THAT WAY.
  • 00:38:04.499 --> 00:38:05.400
  • YOU KIND OF FEEL THAT WAY.YOU GREW UP IN A FAMILY,
  • 00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.101
  • YOU GREW UP IN A FAMILY,YOU KNOW, THAT--
  • 00:38:07.101 --> 00:38:07.635
  • YOU KNOW, THAT--- JON: WELL, IT'S--
  • 00:38:07.635 --> 00:38:08.870
  • - JON: WELL, IT'S--PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE
  • 00:38:08.870 --> 00:38:09.704
  • PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THEUNITED STATES,
  • 00:38:09.704 --> 00:38:10.471
  • UNITED STATES,IN MANY WAYS--
  • 00:38:10.471 --> 00:38:11.639
  • IN MANY WAYS--I'M NOT SAYING THAT OTHER
  • 00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:12.307
  • I'M NOT SAYING THAT OTHERPARTS OF THE WORLD ARE NOT
  • 00:38:12.307 --> 00:38:13.474
  • PARTS OF THE WORLD ARE NOTCOMPETITIVE, BUT THAT'S
  • 00:38:13.474 --> 00:38:14.742
  • COMPETITIVE, BUT THAT'SKIND OF A PRETTY
  • 00:38:14.742 --> 00:38:15.877
  • KIND OF A PRETTYDISTINCTIVE AMERICAN
  • 00:38:15.877 --> 00:38:17.011
  • DISTINCTIVE AMERICANETHOS, AND IT'S WHAT'S
  • 00:38:17.011 --> 00:38:19.514
  • ETHOS, AND IT'S WHAT'SBEEN DESCRIBED AS "THE
  • 00:38:19.514 --> 00:38:20.248
  • BEEN DESCRIBED AS "THEWINNER'S SCRIPT," YES.
  • 00:38:20.248 --> 00:38:20.815
  • WINNER'S SCRIPT," YES.- MATT: REALLY?
  • 00:38:20.815 --> 00:38:21.482
  • - MATT: REALLY?- JON: OH, YEAH, I MEAN,
  • 00:38:21.482 --> 00:38:21.949
  • - JON: OH, YEAH, I MEAN,IT'S BEEN--
  • 00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:22.550
  • IT'S BEEN--- LAURIE: OH, TELL US
  • 00:38:22.550 --> 00:38:22.950
  • - LAURIE: OH, TELL USABOUT THAT.
  • 00:38:22.950 --> 00:38:23.451
  • ABOUT THAT.- JON: IT'S BEEN
  • 00:38:23.451 --> 00:38:24.752
  • - JON: IT'S BEENSOCIOLOGICALLY EXAMINED AS
  • 00:38:24.752 --> 00:38:25.787
  • SOCIOLOGICALLY EXAMINED ASONE OF THE CORE SCRIPTS OF
  • 00:38:25.787 --> 00:38:27.021
  • ONE OF THE CORE SCRIPTS OFTHE UNITED STATES,
  • 00:38:27.021 --> 00:38:27.588
  • THE UNITED STATES,THE WINNER'S SCRIPT.
  • 00:38:27.588 --> 00:38:28.456
  • THE WINNER'S SCRIPT.SO I'M FROM AUSTRALIA, AND
  • 00:38:28.456 --> 00:38:31.059
  • SO I'M FROM AUSTRALIA, ANDTHE AUSTRALIAN SCRIPT IS
  • 00:38:31.059 --> 00:38:32.927
  • THE AUSTRALIAN SCRIPT ISBETTER DESCRIBED AS
  • 00:38:32.927 --> 00:38:33.961
  • BETTER DESCRIBED AS"TALL POPPY SYNDROME,"
  • 00:38:33.961 --> 00:38:34.462
  • "TALL POPPY SYNDROME,"AND TALL--
  • 00:38:34.462 --> 00:38:35.229
  • AND TALL--- MATT: I DON'T KNOW WHAT
  • 00:38:35.229 --> 00:38:35.663
  • - MATT: I DON'T KNOW WHATTHAT MEANS.
  • 00:38:35.663 --> 00:38:36.331
  • THAT MEANS.- JON: OKAY, SO--
  • 00:38:36.331 --> 00:38:37.765
  • - JON: OKAY, SO--- MATT: WHAT'S A TALL-- WHAT
  • 00:38:37.765 --> 00:38:38.232
  • - MATT: WHAT'S A TALL-- WHATDID YOU SAY?
  • 00:38:38.232 --> 00:38:39.834
  • DID YOU SAY?- JON: A TALL POPPY
  • 00:38:39.834 --> 00:38:40.335
  • - JON: A TALL POPPYSYNDROME.
  • 00:38:40.335 --> 00:38:41.202
  • SYNDROME.- LAURIE: TALL POPPY.
  • 00:38:41.202 --> 00:38:42.070
  • - LAURIE: TALL POPPY.- MATT: TALL POPPY.
  • 00:38:42.070 --> 00:38:42.737
  • - MATT: TALL POPPY.- JON: TALL POPPY
  • 00:38:42.737 --> 00:38:43.204
  • - JON: TALL POPPYSYNDROME.
  • 00:38:43.204 --> 00:38:43.838
  • SYNDROME.- LAURIE: OH, "POPPY."
  • 00:38:43.838 --> 00:38:44.305
  • - LAURIE: OH, "POPPY."[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:38:44.305 --> 00:38:45.073
  • [LAUGHTER]- MATT: YOU WERE SPEAKING--
  • 00:38:45.073 --> 00:38:45.573
  • - MATT: YOU WERE SPEAKING--- JON: YEAH,
  • 00:38:45.573 --> 00:38:46.941
  • - JON: YEAH,SPEAKING YOUR LANGUAGE.
  • 00:38:46.941 --> 00:38:47.542
  • SPEAKING YOUR LANGUAGE.SO TALL POPPY SYNDROME,
  • 00:38:47.542 --> 00:38:48.710
  • SO TALL POPPY SYNDROME,BASICALLY SAYS, BECAUSE OF
  • 00:38:48.710 --> 00:38:49.677
  • BASICALLY SAYS, BECAUSE OFTHE FOUNDING OF
  • 00:38:49.677 --> 00:38:50.878
  • THE FOUNDING OFAUSTRALIA-- AUSTRALIA WAS
  • 00:38:50.878 --> 00:38:52.313
  • AUSTRALIA-- AUSTRALIA WASFOUNDED BY CONVICTS--
  • 00:38:52.313 --> 00:38:54.215
  • FOUNDED BY CONVICTS--ANYBODY WHO THINKS THEY'RE
  • 00:38:54.215 --> 00:38:55.316
  • ANYBODY WHO THINKS THEY'REBETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE,
  • 00:38:55.316 --> 00:38:56.651
  • BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE,YOU CUT THEM DOWN TO SIZE
  • 00:38:56.651 --> 00:38:58.419
  • YOU CUT THEM DOWN TO SIZEWITH SARCASM AND CYNICISM,
  • 00:38:58.419 --> 00:39:00.788
  • WITH SARCASM AND CYNICISM,BUT AMERICA STARTED JUST
  • 00:39:00.788 --> 00:39:02.523
  • BUT AMERICA STARTED JUSTTHIS EXPERIMENT OF
  • 00:39:02.523 --> 00:39:03.391
  • THIS EXPERIMENT OFINDEPENDENCE, OVERTHROWING
  • 00:39:03.391 --> 00:39:04.025
  • INDEPENDENCE, OVERTHROWINGOUR ENEMIES AND
  • 00:39:04.025 --> 00:39:04.759
  • OUR ENEMIES ANDESTABLISHING OURSELVES AS
  • 00:39:04.759 --> 00:39:05.493
  • ESTABLISHING OURSELVES ASA WORLD POWER.
  • 00:39:05.493 --> 00:39:06.561
  • A WORLD POWER.BY THE WAY, I'M AN
  • 00:39:06.561 --> 00:39:07.362
  • BY THE WAY, I'M ANAMERICAN CITIZEN.
  • 00:39:07.362 --> 00:39:07.929
  • AMERICAN CITIZEN.I'M TALKIN' ABOUT US.
  • 00:39:07.929 --> 00:39:08.896
  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT US.- MATT: GOT IT.
  • 00:39:08.896 --> 00:39:10.798
  • - MATT: GOT IT.- JON: SO THE INSTINCT IN
  • 00:39:10.798 --> 00:39:12.734
  • - JON: SO THE INSTINCT INAMERICA IS "OVERCOME,
  • 00:39:12.734 --> 00:39:13.735
  • AMERICA IS "OVERCOME,KILL, DOMINATE," AND IT'S
  • 00:39:13.735 --> 00:39:14.402
  • KILL, DOMINATE," AND IT'SSO-- AMERICA WORSHIPS HER
  • 00:39:14.402 --> 00:39:17.405
  • SO-- AMERICA WORSHIPS HERHEROES.
  • 00:39:17.405 --> 00:39:18.239
  • HEROES.AUSTRALIA CUTS THEM DOWN
  • 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.275
  • AUSTRALIA CUTS THEM DOWNTO SIZE AND HUMANIZES THEM.
  • 00:39:21.275 --> 00:39:22.443
  • TO SIZE AND HUMANIZES THEM.- MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:39:22.443 --> 00:39:23.678
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.- JON: AND EVEN THE TERM
  • 00:39:23.678 --> 00:39:24.312
  • - JON: AND EVEN THE TERM"MATE," IT'S LIKE A TOTAL
  • 00:39:24.312 --> 00:39:24.812
  • "MATE," IT'S LIKE A TOTALEQUAL.
  • 00:39:24.812 --> 00:39:25.713
  • EQUAL.SO YOUR "MATE" IS SOMEONE
  • 00:39:25.713 --> 00:39:26.280
  • SO YOUR "MATE" IS SOMEONEWHO'S, LIKE, WITH YOU.
  • 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:27.315
  • WHO'S, LIKE, WITH YOU.THEY COME-- AMERICA IS--
  • 00:39:27.315 --> 00:39:29.884
  • THEY COME-- AMERICA IS--IT ELEVATES ITS HEROES.
  • 00:39:29.884 --> 00:39:30.818
  • IT ELEVATES ITS HEROES.SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE ALL
  • 00:39:30.818 --> 00:39:31.719
  • SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE ALLOF THE LANGUAGE OF THE
  • 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:32.387
  • OF THE LANGUAGE OF THEUNITED STATES, FOR
  • 00:39:32.387 --> 00:39:34.622
  • UNITED STATES, FOREXAMPLE, IT'S SO VIOLENT.
  • 00:39:34.622 --> 00:39:37.191
  • EXAMPLE, IT'S SO VIOLENT.IT'S SO VIOLENT.
  • 00:39:37.191 --> 00:39:38.926
  • IT'S SO VIOLENT.IN AUSTRALIA, IF SOMEBODY
  • 00:39:38.926 --> 00:39:40.628
  • IN AUSTRALIA, IF SOMEBODYBECAME A LAWYER, AND, YOU
  • 00:39:40.628 --> 00:39:41.729
  • BECAME A LAWYER, AND, YOUKNOW, WAS JUST DOMINATING
  • 00:39:41.729 --> 00:39:42.964
  • KNOW, WAS JUST DOMINATINGTHE FIELD, AND YOU ASK
  • 00:39:42.964 --> 00:39:43.865
  • THE FIELD, AND YOU ASKTHEM, YOU KNOW, "HOW'RE
  • 00:39:43.865 --> 00:39:44.799
  • THEM, YOU KNOW, "HOW'REYOU DOING?"
  • 00:39:44.799 --> 00:39:46.834
  • YOU DOING?""I'M DOING QUITE WELL."
  • 00:39:46.834 --> 00:39:47.435
  • "I'M DOING QUITE WELL."WELL, THAT'S "I'M WELL
  • 00:39:47.435 --> 00:39:49.771
  • WELL, THAT'S "I'M WELLTAKEN CARE OF." IN
  • 00:39:49.771 --> 00:39:50.471
  • TAKEN CARE OF." INAMERICA, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
  • 00:39:50.471 --> 00:39:51.539
  • AMERICA, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?"WE'RE CRUSHING IT,
  • 00:39:51.539 --> 00:39:52.206
  • "WE'RE CRUSHING IT,KILLING IT, DESTROYING IT."
  • 00:39:52.206 --> 00:39:53.241
  • KILLING IT, DESTROYING IT."[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:53.241 --> 00:39:56.677
  • [LAUGHTER]AND WHAT A HORRIBLE,
  • 00:39:56.677 --> 00:39:58.312
  • AND WHAT A HORRIBLE,VIOLENT IMAGE.
  • 00:39:58.312 --> 00:39:58.913
  • VIOLENT IMAGE.IT'S LIKE A TOTAL WINNER
  • 00:39:58.913 --> 00:39:59.981
  • IT'S LIKE A TOTAL WINNERVERSUS A TOTAL LOSER
  • 00:39:59.981 --> 00:40:00.515
  • VERSUS A TOTAL LOSERMENTALITY.
  • 00:40:00.515 --> 00:40:01.916
  • MENTALITY.SO THAT INSTINCT IS IN
  • 00:40:01.916 --> 00:40:03.518
  • SO THAT INSTINCT IS INTHERE, AND THE PROBLEM
  • 00:40:03.518 --> 00:40:04.585
  • THERE, AND THE PROBLEMWITH THE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL
  • 00:40:04.585 --> 00:40:07.388
  • WITH THE CHRISTIAN GOSPELIS THAT, IF THE WINNER'S
  • 00:40:07.388 --> 00:40:08.156
  • IS THAT, IF THE WINNER'SSCRIPT, THE WINNER'S
  • 00:40:08.156 --> 00:40:09.724
  • SCRIPT, THE WINNER'SGOSPEL GOES LIKE THIS--
  • 00:40:09.724 --> 00:40:11.058
  • GOSPEL GOES LIKE THIS--OKAY, I'M GONNA TRY AND
  • 00:40:11.058 --> 00:40:13.060
  • OKAY, I'M GONNA TRY ANDMAP IT OUT FOR YOU.
  • 00:40:13.060 --> 00:40:14.028
  • MAP IT OUT FOR YOU.- MATT: YOU'RE TELLING ME
  • 00:40:14.028 --> 00:40:14.729
  • - MATT: YOU'RE TELLING MEWHAT I'M THINKIN' ON THE
  • 00:40:14.729 --> 00:40:15.997
  • WHAT I'M THINKIN' ON THEINSIDE, MAYBE?
  • 00:40:15.997 --> 00:40:16.464
  • INSIDE, MAYBE?- JON: MAYBE.
  • 00:40:16.464 --> 00:40:17.298
  • - JON: MAYBE.- LAURIE: HOPEFULLY NOT.
  • 00:40:17.298 --> 00:40:18.266
  • - LAURIE: HOPEFULLY NOT.- JON: SO IT GOES LIKE
  • 00:40:18.266 --> 00:40:18.900
  • - JON: SO IT GOES LIKETHIS: JESUS IS BORN OF A
  • 00:40:18.900 --> 00:40:19.467
  • THIS: JESUS IS BORN OF AVIRGIN-- WHICH IS AN
  • 00:40:19.467 --> 00:40:21.002
  • VIRGIN-- WHICH IS ANAWFULLY GOOD START TO
  • 00:40:21.002 --> 00:40:21.669
  • AWFULLY GOOD START TOLIFE, BEING A MIRACLE BABY.
  • 00:40:21.669 --> 00:40:24.105
  • LIFE, BEING A MIRACLE BABY.AS A TEENAGER, JESUS IS--
  • 00:40:24.105 --> 00:40:26.107
  • AS A TEENAGER, JESUS IS--IT IS A GODLY KID.
  • 00:40:26.107 --> 00:40:28.509
  • IT IS A GODLY KID.HE HAS TO BE ABOUT HIS
  • 00:40:28.509 --> 00:40:29.076
  • HE HAS TO BE ABOUT HISFATHER'S BUSINESS, AND
  • 00:40:29.076 --> 00:40:31.312
  • FATHER'S BUSINESS, ANDTHEN JESUS, HE ROSE UNDER
  • 00:40:31.312 --> 00:40:32.113
  • THEN JESUS, HE ROSE UNDERTHE SAME POWER, GLORY,
  • 00:40:32.113 --> 00:40:32.847
  • THE SAME POWER, GLORY,OUTSHINES JOHN THE
  • 00:40:32.847 --> 00:40:33.514
  • OUTSHINES JOHN THEBAPTIST, TAKES HIS
  • 00:40:33.514 --> 00:40:34.549
  • BAPTIST, TAKES HISDISCIPLES.
  • 00:40:34.549 --> 00:40:35.450
  • DISCIPLES.HE'S BAPTIZING.
  • 00:40:35.450 --> 00:40:36.651
  • HE'S BAPTIZING.HE'S CONFRONTING HYPOCRISY
  • 00:40:36.651 --> 00:40:37.885
  • HE'S CONFRONTING HYPOCRISYWITH THE PHARISEES.
  • 00:40:37.885 --> 00:40:39.687
  • WITH THE PHARISEES.HE'S BUILDING A MOVEMENT,
  • 00:40:39.687 --> 00:40:41.956
  • HE'S BUILDING A MOVEMENT,AND HE CONFRONTS, YOU
  • 00:40:41.956 --> 00:40:43.024
  • AND HE CONFRONTS, YOUKNOW, HEROD ANTIPAS.
  • 00:40:43.024 --> 00:40:44.192
  • KNOW, HEROD ANTIPAS.HE SAYS, "GO TELL THAT FOX--"
  • 00:40:44.192 --> 00:40:44.859
  • HE SAYS, "GO TELL THAT FOX--"THAT'S A POLITICAL INSULT.
  • 00:40:44.859 --> 00:40:46.227
  • THAT'S A POLITICAL INSULT.YOU KNOW, LEADERS WERE
  • 00:40:46.227 --> 00:40:47.528
  • YOU KNOW, LEADERS WERECALLED LIONS, AND HE CALLS
  • 00:40:47.528 --> 00:40:48.095
  • CALLED LIONS, AND HE CALLSHIM A FOX.
  • 00:40:48.095 --> 00:40:48.663
  • HIM A FOX.HE DISMISSES HIM AND
  • 00:40:48.663 --> 00:40:49.997
  • HE DISMISSES HIM ANDBUILDS THIS MOVEMENT, AND
  • 00:40:49.997 --> 00:40:50.998
  • BUILDS THIS MOVEMENT, ANDIT ALL COMES DOWN, AND HE
  • 00:40:50.998 --> 00:40:53.401
  • IT ALL COMES DOWN, AND HEDIES ON THE CROSS, AND
  • 00:40:53.401 --> 00:40:55.536
  • AND HE'S ASCENDING TO THE
  • 00:40:56.771 --> 00:40:57.338
  • AND HE'S ASCENDING TO THEFATHER, AND WHILE HE'S
  • 00:40:57.338 --> 00:40:58.105
  • FATHER, AND WHILE HE'SASCENDING TO THE FATHER,
  • 00:40:58.105 --> 00:40:59.006
  • ASCENDING TO THE FATHER,EVERYBODY CLAPS AND CHEERS,
  • 00:40:59.006 --> 00:41:00.942
  • EVERYBODY CLAPS AND CHEERS,"YEAH, WHAT A WINNER"--
  • 00:41:00.942 --> 00:41:01.576
  • "YEAH, WHAT A WINNER"--EXCEPT THAT'S JUST NOT THE
  • 00:41:01.576 --> 00:41:02.610
  • EXCEPT THAT'S JUST NOT THEORDER OF HOW THE GOSPEL SORT
  • 00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:06.781
  • ORDER OF HOW THE GOSPEL SORTOF WENT IN TERMS OF AFFIRMATION.
  • 00:41:06.781 --> 00:41:07.849
  • OF WENT IN TERMS OF AFFIRMATION.JESUS IS BORN AND LIVES
  • 00:41:07.849 --> 00:41:08.483
  • JESUS IS BORN AND LIVESBASICALLY IN OBSCURITY FOR
  • 00:41:08.483 --> 00:41:09.817
  • BASICALLY IN OBSCURITY FOR30 YEARS, AND BEFORE HE'S
  • 00:41:09.817 --> 00:41:11.486
  • 30 YEARS, AND BEFORE HE'SDONE ANYTHING, THE FATHER
  • 00:41:11.486 --> 00:41:12.420
  • DONE ANYTHING, THE FATHERSAYS TO HIM AT THE START,
  • 00:41:12.420 --> 00:41:13.554
  • SAYS TO HIM AT THE START,NOT THE END OF HIS
  • 00:41:13.554 --> 00:41:14.422
  • NOT THE END OF HISMINISTRY, "THIS IS MY
  • 00:41:14.422 --> 00:41:16.123
  • MINISTRY, "THIS IS MYBELOVED SON, WHO I LOVE,
  • 00:41:16.123 --> 00:41:17.525
  • BELOVED SON, WHO I LOVE,AND IN HIM I'M WELL
  • 00:41:17.525 --> 00:41:18.326
  • AND IN HIM I'M WELLPLEASED." BUT WHAT'S HE
  • 00:41:18.326 --> 00:41:19.861
  • PLEASED." BUT WHAT'S HEPLEASED WITH?
  • 00:41:19.861 --> 00:41:20.461
  • PLEASED WITH?HE HASN'T CONFRONTED THE
  • 00:41:20.461 --> 00:41:21.162
  • HE HASN'T CONFRONTED THEPHARISEES, HASN'T TAKEN ON
  • 00:41:21.162 --> 00:41:23.498
  • PHARISEES, HASN'T TAKEN ONHEROD, HASN'T REALLY DONE
  • 00:41:23.498 --> 00:41:24.765
  • HEROD, HASN'T REALLY DONEANY MIRACLES, HASN'T DONE
  • 00:41:24.765 --> 00:41:25.366
  • ANY MIRACLES, HASN'T DONEANYTHING, AND WHAT'S HE
  • 00:41:25.366 --> 00:41:27.068
  • HE'S PLEASED THAT HE SPENT
  • 00:41:28.336 --> 00:41:29.370
  • HE'S PLEASED THAT HE SPENT30 YEARS ABIDING IN HIS
  • 00:41:29.370 --> 00:41:30.104
  • 30 YEARS ABIDING IN HISLOVE, AND HE HAS A BASE OF
  • 00:41:30.104 --> 00:41:31.706
  • LOVE, AND HE HAS A BASE OFINTIMACY.
  • 00:41:31.706 --> 00:41:32.206
  • INTIMACY.SO THAT VOICE OF
  • 00:41:32.206 --> 00:41:33.040
  • SO THAT VOICE OFAFFIRMATION BEFORE HE DID
  • 00:41:33.040 --> 00:41:33.741
  • AFFIRMATION BEFORE HE DIDANYTHING, FREED HIM FROM THE
  • 00:41:33.741 --> 00:41:34.308
  • ANYTHING, FREED HIM FROM THENEED OF APPROVAL AND
  • 00:41:34.308 --> 00:41:36.210
  • NEED OF APPROVAL ANDOUTCOMES, BY DOING ANYTHING,
  • 00:41:36.210 --> 00:41:36.844
  • OUTCOMES, BY DOING ANYTHING,THEREFORE, HE WAS FREE TO
  • 00:41:36.844 --> 00:41:41.082
  • THEREFORE, HE WAS FREE TOSIMPLY LOVE WITHOUT OUTCOME,
  • 00:41:41.082 --> 00:41:42.550
  • SIMPLY LOVE WITHOUT OUTCOME,AND THEN TRUST IT ALL TO HIS
  • 00:41:42.550 --> 00:41:43.150
  • AND THEN TRUST IT ALL TO HISFATHER, AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:41:43.150 --> 00:41:44.418
  • FATHER, AND THAT'S THEBIBLICAL GOSPEL, IN SOME
  • 00:41:44.418 --> 00:41:44.952
  • BIBLICAL GOSPEL, IN SOMESENSE, VERSUS THE
  • 00:41:44.952 --> 00:41:46.087
  • SENSE, VERSUS THE"WINNER'S SCRIPT," WHICH
  • 00:41:46.087 --> 00:41:46.888
  • "WINNER'S SCRIPT," WHICHIS SO MUCH A PART OF OUR
  • 00:41:46.888 --> 00:41:47.321
  • IS SO MUCH A PART OF OURCULTURE TODAY.
  • 00:41:47.321 --> 00:41:48.523
  • CULTURE TODAY.- MATT: SO I HAVE TO
  • 00:41:48.523 --> 00:41:49.690
  • - MATT: SO I HAVE TOADMIT, I IDENTIFY WITH THE
  • 00:41:49.690 --> 00:41:51.492
  • ADMIT, I IDENTIFY WITH THEWINNER'S SCRIPT.
  • 00:41:51.492 --> 00:41:52.493
  • WINNER'S SCRIPT.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:52.493 --> 00:41:54.929
  • [LAUGHTER]- JON: IT'S SO OFTEN--
  • 00:41:54.929 --> 00:41:55.530
  • - JON: IT'S SO OFTEN--I'VE ACTUALLY GIVEN THAT
  • 00:41:55.530 --> 00:41:56.130
  • I'VE ACTUALLY GIVEN THATAS A SERMON BEFORE, AND
  • 00:41:56.130 --> 00:41:56.731
  • AS A SERMON BEFORE, ANDWHEN I'M GIVING VERSION
  • 00:41:56.731 --> 00:41:57.365
  • WHEN I'M GIVING VERSIONONE, PEOPLE ARE CLAPPING,
  • 00:41:57.365 --> 00:41:58.165
  • ONE, PEOPLE ARE CLAPPING,AND I'M LIKE, "NO, NO."
  • 00:41:58.165 --> 00:42:00.801
  • AND I'M LIKE, "NO, NO."- MATT: I HAVE TO ADMIT
  • 00:42:00.801 --> 00:42:02.303
  • - MATT: I HAVE TO ADMITTHOUGH THAT I DID-- I DID
  • 00:42:02.303 --> 00:42:03.404
  • THOUGH THAT I DID-- I DIDIDENTIFY WITH THAT.
  • 00:42:03.404 --> 00:42:05.439
  • IDENTIFY WITH THAT.- LAURIE: A LONG TIME TO CLAP.
  • 00:42:05.439 --> 00:42:07.708
  • - LAURIE: A LONG TIME TO CLAP.- MATT: SO THERE IS A
  • 00:42:07.708 --> 00:42:10.144
  • - MATT: SO THERE IS AUNIQUE DICHOTOMY THOUGH
  • 00:42:10.144 --> 00:42:12.580
  • UNIQUE DICHOTOMY THOUGHBECAUSE WE DON'T PRAY FOR
  • 00:42:12.580 --> 00:42:15.416
  • BECAUSE WE DON'T PRAY FORVICTORY.
  • 00:42:15.416 --> 00:42:16.317
  • VICTORY.WE PRAY FROM VICTORY.
  • 00:42:16.317 --> 00:42:16.884
  • WE PRAY FROM VICTORY.- JON: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:42:16.884 --> 00:42:17.718
  • - JON: THAT'S TRUE.THAT IS THE HEART OF--
  • 00:42:17.718 --> 00:42:18.319
  • THAT IS THE HEART OF--- MATT: THE WORK IS ALL
  • 00:42:18.319 --> 00:42:19.186
  • - MATT: THE WORK IS ALLDONE, SO THERE IS THIS
  • 00:42:19.186 --> 00:42:21.789
  • DONE, SO THERE IS THISVICTOR MENTALITY, "COME ON
  • 00:42:21.789 --> 00:42:22.256
  • VICTOR MENTALITY, "COME ONWITH IT."
  • 00:42:22.256 --> 00:42:22.690
  • WITH IT."NO, ACTUALLY--
  • 00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:23.291
  • NO, ACTUALLY--[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:42:23.291 --> 00:42:24.125
  • [LAUGHTER]- LAURIE: CONQUER.
  • 00:42:24.125 --> 00:42:25.159
  • - LAURIE: CONQUER.- MATT: YOU KNOW, BUT HE
  • 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.728
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, BUT HEALREADY WON, SEE?
  • 00:42:27.728 --> 00:42:29.063
  • ALREADY WON, SEE?AND SO THE CROSS IS FINISHED.
  • 00:42:29.063 --> 00:42:31.232
  • AND SO THE CROSS IS FINISHED.HE SAID SO.
  • 00:42:31.232 --> 00:42:31.999
  • HE SAID SO.SO WE'RE NOT GONNA PRAY TO
  • 00:42:31.999 --> 00:42:34.235
  • SO WE'RE NOT GONNA PRAY TOFINISH THE CROSS.
  • 00:42:34.235 --> 00:42:34.936
  • FINISH THE CROSS.THE WORK OF THE CROSS IS DONE.
  • 00:42:34.936 --> 00:42:35.536
  • THE WORK OF THE CROSS IS DONE.- JON: YEAH, THAT'S THE
  • 00:42:35.536 --> 00:42:35.937
  • - JON: YEAH, THAT'S THEGOSPEL.
  • 00:42:35.937 --> 00:42:36.504
  • GOSPEL.- MATT: SO WE GET TO
  • 00:42:36.504 --> 00:42:37.638
  • - MATT: SO WE GET TOSTAND IN THIS PLACE OF
  • 00:42:37.638 --> 00:42:39.941
  • STAND IN THIS PLACE OFVICTORY, SO INASMUCH AS
  • 00:42:39.941 --> 00:42:42.643
  • VICTORY, SO INASMUCH ASHIS ROLE WAS THIS
  • 00:42:42.643 --> 00:42:44.812
  • HIS ROLE WAS THISHUMILITY, PEACE-- HE'S THE
  • 00:42:44.812 --> 00:42:46.981
  • HUMILITY, PEACE-- HE'S THELAMB SLAIN BEFORE THE
  • 00:42:46.981 --> 00:42:48.015
  • LAMB SLAIN BEFORE THEFOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,
  • 00:42:48.015 --> 00:42:49.417
  • FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,SO HE WAS NOT THE VICTOR
  • 00:42:49.417 --> 00:42:50.718
  • SO HE WAS NOT THE VICTORSLAIN BEFORE-- HE WAS THE
  • 00:42:50.718 --> 00:42:51.519
  • SLAIN BEFORE-- HE WAS THELAMB SLAIN, SO I GET ALL
  • 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.921
  • LAMB SLAIN, SO I GET ALLOF THAT SO-- BUT IT IS A
  • 00:42:53.921 --> 00:42:57.425
  • OF THAT SO-- BUT IT IS ADICHOTOMY INSIDE OF ME SOME.
  • 00:42:57.425 --> 00:42:58.926
  • DICHOTOMY INSIDE OF ME SOME.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:42:58.926 --> 00:42:59.560
  • [LAUGHTER]- JON: I'M NOT ARGUING.
  • 00:42:59.560 --> 00:43:00.194
  • - JON: I'M NOT ARGUING.I WANNA BE CLEAR HERE.
  • 00:43:00.194 --> 00:43:01.262
  • I WANNA BE CLEAR HERE.I'M NOT ARGUING FOR PASSIVITY.
  • 00:43:01.262 --> 00:43:03.297
  • I'M NOT ARGUING FOR PASSIVITY.- MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:43:03.297 --> 00:43:03.898
  • - MATT: YEAH.- JON: I'M NOT ARGUING
  • 00:43:03.898 --> 00:43:05.399
  • - JON: I'M NOT ARGUINGFOR PASSIVITY.
  • 00:43:05.399 --> 00:43:05.833
  • FOR PASSIVITY.MEEKNESS.
  • 00:43:05.833 --> 00:43:06.701
  • MEEKNESS.IT'S THE MEEK THAT INHERIT
  • 00:43:06.701 --> 00:43:07.802
  • IT'S THE MEEK THAT INHERITTHE EARTH, AND MEEKNESS IS
  • 00:43:07.802 --> 00:43:08.936
  • THE EARTH, AND MEEKNESS ISTHE STRENGTH UNDER CONTROL.
  • 00:43:08.936 --> 00:43:09.537
  • THE STRENGTH UNDER CONTROL.STRENGTH UNDER CONTROL.
  • 00:43:09.537 --> 00:43:10.471
  • STRENGTH UNDER CONTROL.- LAURIE: THIS HAS
  • 00:43:10.471 --> 00:43:11.038
  • - LAURIE: THIS HASACTUALLY TURNED INTO A
  • 00:43:11.038 --> 00:43:12.473
  • ACTUALLY TURNED INTO ATHERAPY SESSION FOR MATT.
  • 00:43:12.473 --> 00:43:12.907
  • THERAPY SESSION FOR MATT.THIS IS GOOD.
  • 00:43:12.907 --> 00:43:13.341
  • THIS IS GOOD.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:13.341 --> 00:43:18.012
  • [LAUGHTER]- JON: THE-- A MAN USING
  • 00:43:18.012 --> 00:43:20.748
  • - JON: THE-- A MAN USINGHIS STRENGTH FOR A CAUSE
  • 00:43:20.748 --> 00:43:22.283
  • HIS STRENGTH FOR A CAUSEBEYOND HIMSELF TO DEFEAT
  • 00:43:22.283 --> 00:43:25.753
  • BEYOND HIMSELF TO DEFEATEVIL IS A GODLY INSTINCT
  • 00:43:25.753 --> 00:43:26.520
  • EVIL IS A GODLY INSTINCTTHAT SHOULD BE CULTIVATED,
  • 00:43:26.520 --> 00:43:28.356
  • THAT SHOULD BE CULTIVATED,NOT SUPPRESSED.
  • 00:43:28.356 --> 00:43:29.357
  • NOT SUPPRESSED.IT JUST HAS TO BE DIRECTED
  • 00:43:29.357 --> 00:43:30.257
  • IT JUST HAS TO BE DIRECTEDAPPROPRIATELY, OTHERWISE,
  • 00:43:30.257 --> 00:43:31.726
  • APPROPRIATELY, OTHERWISE,IT WILL-- ONE OF THEM
  • 00:43:31.726 --> 00:43:33.294
  • IT WILL-- ONE OF THEMLEADS TO TOXIC MASCULINITY,
  • 00:43:33.294 --> 00:43:35.096
  • LEADS TO TOXIC MASCULINITY,WHICH IS A LOT OF WHAT'S
  • 00:43:35.096 --> 00:43:35.830
  • WHICH IS A LOT OF WHAT'SWRONG WITH OUR CULTURE TODAY.
  • 00:43:35.830 --> 00:43:36.831
  • WRONG WITH OUR CULTURE TODAY.IT'S INFECTED POLITICS,
  • 00:43:36.831 --> 00:43:38.432
  • IT'S INFECTED POLITICS,IT'S INFECTED BUSINESSES,
  • 00:43:38.432 --> 00:43:40.468
  • IT'S INFECTED BUSINESSES,IT'S INFECTED THE CHURCH.
  • 00:43:40.468 --> 00:43:41.035
  • IT'S INFECTED THE CHURCH.- MATT: IS THAT WHERE
  • 00:43:41.035 --> 00:43:41.902
  • - MATT: IS THAT WHEREBEARDS CAME FROM?
  • 00:43:41.902 --> 00:43:42.370
  • BEARDS CAME FROM?- JON: I MEAN--
  • 00:43:42.370 --> 00:43:43.237
  • - JON: I MEAN--- MATT: BIG BEARDS?
  • 00:43:43.237 --> 00:43:43.804
  • - MATT: BIG BEARDS?- JON: MAYBE, MAYBE.
  • 00:43:43.804 --> 00:43:44.972
  • - JON: MAYBE, MAYBE.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:44.972 --> 00:43:45.606
  • [LAUGHTER]- MATT: PROBABLY, YEAH,
  • 00:43:45.606 --> 00:43:46.173
  • - MATT: PROBABLY, YEAH,GO AHEAD.
  • 00:43:46.173 --> 00:43:47.241
  • GO AHEAD.- JON: THE OTHER ONE
  • 00:43:47.241 --> 00:43:48.042
  • - JON: THE OTHER ONELEADS TO RADICAL SERVANTHOOD.
  • 00:43:48.042 --> 00:43:49.010
  • LEADS TO RADICAL SERVANTHOOD.IT LEADS TO GIVING
  • 00:43:49.010 --> 00:43:50.011
  • IT LEADS TO GIVINGYOURSELF AWAY.
  • 00:43:50.011 --> 00:43:51.412
  • YOURSELF AWAY.IT LEADS TO POURING
  • 00:43:51.412 --> 00:43:53.514
  • IT LEADS TO POURINGYOURSELF OUT, AND I WANNA
  • 00:43:53.514 --> 00:43:54.248
  • YOURSELF OUT, AND I WANNAARGUE, IT'S HARDER TO DO THAT.
  • 00:43:54.248 --> 00:43:56.050
  • ARGUE, IT'S HARDER TO DO THAT.THAT IS TRUE MASCULINITY
  • 00:43:56.050 --> 00:43:57.218
  • THAT IS TRUE MASCULINITYIF THE SERVANT, THE
  • 00:43:57.218 --> 00:43:58.386
  • IF THE SERVANT, THEINSTINCT TO "I WANT TO,
  • 00:43:58.386 --> 00:43:59.720
  • INSTINCT TO "I WANT TO,BUT I'M NOT GOING TO
  • 00:43:59.720 --> 00:44:00.721
  • BUT I'M NOT GOING TOBECAUSE I HAVE STRENGTH,
  • 00:44:00.721 --> 00:44:01.222
  • BECAUSE I HAVE STRENGTH,BECAUSE I HAVE
  • 00:44:01.222 --> 00:44:01.856
  • BECAUSE I HAVESELF-CONTROL.
  • 00:44:01.856 --> 00:44:03.190
  • SELF-CONTROL.I'M GONNA POUR MYSELF OUT
  • 00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:04.258
  • I'M GONNA POUR MYSELF OUTFOR OTHERS."
  • 00:44:04.258 --> 00:44:06.060
  • FOR OTHERS."IT ACTUALLY COMES DOWN TO
  • 00:44:06.060 --> 00:44:07.928
  • IT ACTUALLY COMES DOWN TOOUR DEFINITION OF "GREATNESS."
  • 00:44:07.928 --> 00:44:09.096
  • OUR DEFINITION OF "GREATNESS."WHAT IS "GREATNESS" IN
  • 00:44:09.096 --> 00:44:09.830
  • WHAT IS "GREATNESS" INMODERN SOCIETY?
  • 00:44:09.830 --> 00:44:11.532
  • MODERN SOCIETY?SO WE THINK "GREATNESS" IS
  • 00:44:11.532 --> 00:44:12.700
  • SO WE THINK "GREATNESS" ISACCOMPLISHMENT: "MAN, HE
  • 00:44:12.700 --> 00:44:13.768
  • ACCOMPLISHMENT: "MAN, HEWAS THE GREATEST," BUT HOW
  • 00:44:13.768 --> 00:44:15.102
  • WAS THE GREATEST," BUT HOWMANY KIDS GREW UP IN A
  • 00:44:15.102 --> 00:44:16.437
  • MANY KIDS GREW UP IN AHOME WHERE THEY SAY THEIR
  • 00:44:16.437 --> 00:44:17.405
  • HOME WHERE THEY SAY THEIRFATHER WAS GREAT IN THE
  • 00:44:17.405 --> 00:44:18.339
  • FATHER WAS GREAT IN THEEYES OF THE WORLD, BUT HE
  • 00:44:18.339 --> 00:44:20.241
  • EYES OF THE WORLD, BUT HEWAS A FAILURE AT HOME?
  • 00:44:20.241 --> 00:44:21.042
  • WAS A FAILURE AT HOME?AND HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU
  • 00:44:21.042 --> 00:44:21.609
  • AND HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOUKNOW, YOU MEET THEM,
  • 00:44:21.609 --> 00:44:22.843
  • KNOW, YOU MEET THEM,THEY'RE REMARKABLY
  • 00:44:22.843 --> 00:44:24.445
  • THEY'RE REMARKABLYHEALTHY, DEEP SENSE OF
  • 00:44:24.445 --> 00:44:25.379
  • HEALTHY, DEEP SENSE OFPEACE, WELL-BEING, SECURE
  • 00:44:25.379 --> 00:44:27.448
  • PEACE, WELL-BEING, SECUREIDENTITY.
  • 00:44:27.448 --> 00:44:28.582
  • IDENTITY.YOU ASK THEM ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:44:28.582 --> 00:44:29.316
  • YOU ASK THEM ABOUT YOURLIFE, "TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DAD."
  • 00:44:29.316 --> 00:44:31.318
  • LIFE, "TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DAD.""MY DAD WAS A GREAT DAD."
  • 00:44:31.318 --> 00:44:32.553
  • "MY DAD WAS A GREAT DAD."WHAT MADE HIM GREAT?
  • 00:44:32.553 --> 00:44:34.355
  • WHAT MADE HIM GREAT?HE PUT THE KID FIRST.
  • 00:44:34.355 --> 00:44:34.855
  • HE PUT THE KID FIRST.HE SHOWED UP.
  • 00:44:34.855 --> 00:44:36.190
  • HE SHOWED UP.HE WAS INTENTIONAL.
  • 00:44:36.190 --> 00:44:37.324
  • HE WAS INTENTIONAL.HE WAS INVOLVED.
  • 00:44:37.324 --> 00:44:37.992
  • HE WAS INVOLVED.DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE
  • 00:44:37.992 --> 00:44:39.160
  • DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HEACCOMPLISHED IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:44:39.160 --> 00:44:40.494
  • ACCOMPLISHED IN THE WORLD.WE KNOW INTUITIVELY THE
  • 00:44:40.494 --> 00:44:43.030
  • WE KNOW INTUITIVELY THEGREATNESS IS POURING
  • 00:44:43.030 --> 00:44:44.932
  • GREATNESS IS POURINGITSELF OUT ON BEHALF OF
  • 00:44:44.932 --> 00:44:45.566
  • ITSELF OUT ON BEHALF OFOTHERS, AND THAT'S WHY
  • 00:44:45.566 --> 00:44:46.267
  • OTHERS, AND THAT'S WHYJESUS IS THE GREATEST MAN
  • 00:44:46.267 --> 00:44:47.001
  • JESUS IS THE GREATEST MANTHAT'S EVER LIVED.
  • 00:44:47.001 --> 00:44:47.568
  • THAT'S EVER LIVED.HE HAD ALL THE POWER,
  • 00:44:47.568 --> 00:44:48.169
  • HE HAD ALL THE POWER,COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING.
  • 00:44:48.169 --> 00:44:49.470
  • COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING.HE VOLUNTARILY SUBMITTED
  • 00:44:49.470 --> 00:44:51.205
  • HE VOLUNTARILY SUBMITTEDAND LAID HIS LIFE DOWN FOR
  • 00:44:51.205 --> 00:44:51.672
  • AND LAID HIS LIFE DOWN FOROTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:44:51.672 --> 00:44:52.306
  • OTHER PEOPLE.TRUE GREATNESS.
  • 00:44:52.306 --> 00:44:52.773
  • TRUE GREATNESS.- MATT: OKAY--
  • 00:44:52.773 --> 00:44:54.508
  • - MATT: OKAY--- LAURIE: SO GOOD.
  • 00:44:54.508 --> 00:44:55.042
  • - LAURIE: SO GOOD.- MATT: -- WHAT WE
  • 00:44:55.042 --> 00:44:55.943
  • - MATT: -- WHAT WESTARTED TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:44:55.943 --> 00:44:56.610
  • STARTED TALKING ABOUTTODAY WAS THE GOOD NEWS,
  • 00:44:56.610 --> 00:44:57.211
  • TODAY WAS THE GOOD NEWS,OKAY?
  • 00:44:57.211 --> 00:44:59.747
  • YOU DID A PODCAST RECENTLY
  • 00:45:01.048 --> 00:45:02.083
  • YOU DID A PODCAST RECENTLYIN YOUR CHURCH,
  • 00:45:02.083 --> 00:45:02.683
  • IN YOUR CHURCH,"A MISSIONAL LIFE: OUR
  • 00:45:02.683 --> 00:45:06.253
  • "A MISSIONAL LIFE: OURMISSIONAL MESSAGE."
  • 00:45:06.253 --> 00:45:08.355
  • MISSIONAL MESSAGE."- JON: YEAH.
  • 00:45:08.355 --> 00:45:08.956
  • - JON: YEAH.- MATT: WE IMMEDIATELY
  • 00:45:08.956 --> 00:45:11.325
  • IF SOMEBODY JUST TUNED IN
  • 00:45:13.094 --> 00:45:13.694
  • IF SOMEBODY JUST TUNED INAND HAVEN'T BEEN WITH US
  • 00:45:13.694 --> 00:45:15.563
  • AND HAVEN'T BEEN WITH USTHE WHOLE BIT, WE'VE GOT
  • 00:45:15.563 --> 00:45:17.064
  • THE WHOLE BIT, WE'VE GOTABOUT EIGHT OR SO MINUTES
  • 00:45:17.064 --> 00:45:19.300
  • ABOUT EIGHT OR SO MINUTESLEFT.
  • 00:45:19.300 --> 00:45:20.601
  • LEFT.WHY DON'T YOU BASICALLY,
  • 00:45:20.601 --> 00:45:23.738
  • WHY DON'T YOU BASICALLY,KIND OF, LAND THE SHIP
  • 00:45:23.738 --> 00:45:24.371
  • KIND OF, LAND THE SHIPHERE AND GIVE A BIT OF AN
  • 00:45:24.371 --> 00:45:25.506
  • HERE AND GIVE A BIT OF ANOVERVIEW OF WHAT, YOU
  • 00:45:25.506 --> 00:45:26.440
  • OVERVIEW OF WHAT, YOUKNOW, "A MISSIONAL
  • 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.175
  • KNOW, "A MISSIONALMESSAGE" IS.
  • 00:45:28.175 --> 00:45:30.144
  • MESSAGE" IS.OUR-- IT'S OURS NOW.
  • 00:45:30.144 --> 00:45:31.045
  • OUR-- IT'S OURS NOW.WE'RE TAKING IT, AND WE'RE
  • 00:45:31.045 --> 00:45:32.346
  • WE'RE TAKING IT, AND WE'READOPTING IT.
  • 00:45:32.346 --> 00:45:33.147
  • ADOPTING IT.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:45:33.147 --> 00:45:34.348
  • [LAUGHTER]- LAURIE: PARTNERS NOW.
  • 00:45:34.348 --> 00:45:36.417
  • - LAURIE: PARTNERS NOW.- MATT: AND SO, JON, JUST
  • 00:45:36.417 --> 00:45:37.651
  • - MATT: AND SO, JON, JUSTKIND OF DO THAT, AND THEN
  • 00:45:37.651 --> 00:45:38.652
  • KIND OF DO THAT, AND THENTHERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE
  • 00:45:38.652 --> 00:45:39.386
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARELISTENING TO THIS, AND IT
  • 00:45:39.386 --> 00:45:40.888
  • LISTENING TO THIS, AND ITMEANS SOMETHING TO THEM,
  • 00:45:40.888 --> 00:45:41.822
  • MEANS SOMETHING TO THEM,AND INVITE THEM TO JOIN US
  • 00:45:41.822 --> 00:45:45.259
  • AND INVITE THEM TO JOIN USON THIS.
  • 00:45:45.259 --> 00:45:46.360
  • ON THIS.- JON: OKAY, YEAH, SURE.
  • 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:47.294
  • - JON: OKAY, YEAH, SURE.SO I'VE TRIED TO MAKE THE
  • 00:45:47.294 --> 00:45:48.395
  • SO I'VE TRIED TO MAKE THECASE THAT THE CENTRAL
  • 00:45:48.395 --> 00:45:50.698
  • CASE THAT THE CENTRALTHING THAT CHRISTIANS
  • 00:45:50.698 --> 00:45:51.332
  • THING THAT CHRISTIANSCARRY IS THIS THING CALLED
  • 00:45:51.332 --> 00:45:52.032
  • CARRY IS THIS THING CALLEDTHE GOSPEL.
  • 00:45:52.032 --> 00:45:52.633
  • THE GOSPEL.THE GOSPEL IS GOOD NEWS.
  • 00:45:52.633 --> 00:45:53.901
  • THE GOSPEL IS GOOD NEWS.WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY
  • 00:45:53.901 --> 00:45:55.402
  • WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAYTHAT HAS COMPETING
  • 00:45:55.402 --> 00:45:58.205
  • THERE'S GOSPELS OF BRANDS.
  • 00:45:59.406 --> 00:46:00.040
  • THERE'S GOSPELS OF BRANDS.THERE'S GOSPELS OF OTHER
  • 00:46:00.040 --> 00:46:00.407
  • THERE'S GOSPELS OF OTHERRELIGIONS.
  • 00:46:00.407 --> 00:46:01.041
  • RELIGIONS.THERE'S GOSPELS OF SECULAR
  • 00:46:01.041 --> 00:46:02.276
  • THERE'S GOSPELS OF SECULARIDEOLOGIES.
  • 00:46:02.276 --> 00:46:02.910
  • IDEOLOGIES.THERE'S ALL OF THESE
  • 00:46:02.910 --> 00:46:03.577
  • THERE'S ALL OF THESETHINGS THAT ARE ANNOUNCING
  • 00:46:03.577 --> 00:46:04.478
  • THINGS THAT ARE ANNOUNCINGGOOD NEWS.
  • 00:46:04.478 --> 00:46:05.613
  • GOOD NEWS."BELIEVE ME, GIVE YOURSELF
  • 00:46:05.613 --> 00:46:06.514
  • "BELIEVE ME, GIVE YOURSELFTO ME, AND YOU'LL LIVE
  • 00:46:06.514 --> 00:46:08.415
  • TO ME, AND YOU'LL LIVEPROPERLY."
  • 00:46:08.415 --> 00:46:08.983
  • PROPERLY."AND I'VE TRIED TO MAKE
  • 00:46:08.983 --> 00:46:10.017
  • AND I'VE TRIED TO MAKETHE CASE THAT ONE
  • 00:46:10.017 --> 00:46:11.085
  • THE CASE THAT ONEOF THE THINGS WE'RE SEEING
  • 00:46:11.085 --> 00:46:11.685
  • OF THE THINGS WE'RE SEEINGBY PEOPLE BELIEVING THE
  • 00:46:11.685 --> 00:46:12.620
  • BY PEOPLE BELIEVING THEWRONG GOSPEL, THEY'RE
  • 00:46:12.620 --> 00:46:13.587
  • WRONG GOSPEL, THEY'RELIVING THE WRONG KINDS OF
  • 00:46:13.587 --> 00:46:14.955
  • LIVING THE WRONG KINDS OFLIVES.
  • 00:46:14.955 --> 00:46:16.023
  • LIVES.IT'S LEADING TO MISERY,
  • 00:46:16.023 --> 00:46:17.591
  • IT'S LEADING TO MISERY,IT'S LEADING TO DESPAIR,
  • 00:46:17.591 --> 00:46:18.292
  • IT'S LEADING TO DESPAIR,IT'S LEADING TO DIVISION,
  • 00:46:18.292 --> 00:46:20.461
  • AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO
  • 00:46:22.029 --> 00:46:24.832
  • AND SO WE DON'T WANT TOMISLIVE.
  • 00:46:24.832 --> 00:46:25.399
  • MISLIVE.WE WANT THE INVITATION
  • 00:46:25.399 --> 00:46:26.433
  • WE WANT THE INVITATIONJESUS GAVE US, AND THAT
  • 00:46:26.433 --> 00:46:27.067
  • JESUS GAVE US, AND THATINVITATION WAS TO LIFE IN
  • 00:46:27.067 --> 00:46:28.636
  • INVITATION WAS TO LIFE INALL OF ITS FULLNESS, AND
  • 00:46:28.636 --> 00:46:29.804
  • ALL OF ITS FULLNESS, ANDTHAT COMES THROUGH THE
  • 00:46:29.804 --> 00:46:31.138
  • THAT COMES THROUGH THECHRISTIAN GOSPEL.
  • 00:46:31.138 --> 00:46:32.039
  • CHRISTIAN GOSPEL.THE GOSPEL WAS SOMETHING
  • 00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:33.007
  • THE GOSPEL WAS SOMETHINGTHAT THE CHRISTIANS
  • 00:46:33.007 --> 00:46:34.208
  • THAT THE CHRISTIANSBORROWED TO EXPLAIN A
  • 00:46:34.208 --> 00:46:35.409
  • BORROWED TO EXPLAIN AVICTORY THAT HAD BEEN
  • 00:46:35.409 --> 00:46:37.645
  • VICTORY THAT HAD BEENACCOMPLISHED BY SOMEONE,
  • 00:46:37.645 --> 00:46:39.113
  • ACCOMPLISHED BY SOMEONE,AND THE NEWS OF THAT
  • 00:46:39.113 --> 00:46:39.747
  • AND THE NEWS OF THATVICTORY THAT WAS BRINGING
  • 00:46:39.747 --> 00:46:40.948
  • VICTORY THAT WAS BRINGINGPEACE WAS DISTRIBUTED TO
  • 00:46:40.948 --> 00:46:42.783
  • PEACE WAS DISTRIBUTED TOEVERYBODY ELSE.
  • 00:46:42.783 --> 00:46:43.384
  • EVERYBODY ELSE.SO THAT'S THE CHRISTIAN
  • 00:46:43.384 --> 00:46:44.084
  • SO THAT'S THE CHRISTIANMESSAGE.
  • 00:46:44.084 --> 00:46:44.985
  • MESSAGE.THERE'S MANY GOSPELS IN
  • 00:46:44.985 --> 00:46:46.020
  • THERE'S MANY GOSPELS INTHE WORLD, BUT THE
  • 00:46:46.020 --> 00:46:47.188
  • THE WORLD, BUT THECHRISTIAN GOSPEL IS AN
  • 00:46:47.188 --> 00:46:47.855
  • CHRISTIAN GOSPEL IS ANANNOUNCEMENT OF WHAT JESUS
  • 00:46:47.855 --> 00:46:48.823
  • ANNOUNCEMENT OF WHAT JESUSHAS DONE FOR US ON THE
  • 00:46:48.823 --> 00:46:50.591
  • HAS DONE FOR US ON THECROSS.
  • 00:46:50.591 --> 00:46:51.158
  • CROSS.THE REASON WE KNOW THE
  • 00:46:51.158 --> 00:46:52.626
  • THE REASON WE KNOW THEGOSPEL IS TRUE, NOT THAT
  • 00:46:52.626 --> 00:46:53.260
  • GOSPEL IS TRUE, NOT THATIT JUST MAKES LIKE SENSE
  • 00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:55.563
  • IT JUST MAKES LIKE SENSEIN OUR MINDS BUT THAT WE
  • 00:46:55.563 --> 00:46:57.965
  • IN OUR MINDS BUT THAT WEFEEL IT IN OUR BEING, IN
  • 00:46:57.965 --> 00:46:58.833
  • FEEL IT IN OUR BEING, INOUR HEART, IS BECAUSE IT
  • 00:46:58.833 --> 00:46:59.834
  • OUR HEART, IS BECAUSE ITANSWERS THREE PRIMAL CRIES
  • 00:46:59.834 --> 00:47:01.635
  • ANSWERS THREE PRIMAL CRIESTHAT EXIST IN EVERY HUMAN
  • 00:47:01.635 --> 00:47:02.937
  • THAT EXIST IN EVERY HUMANHEART.
  • 00:47:02.937 --> 00:47:04.939
  • HEART.THE FIRST PRIMAL CRY IS
  • 00:47:04.939 --> 00:47:06.874
  • THE FIRST PRIMAL CRY IS"DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?"
  • 00:47:06.874 --> 00:47:07.441
  • "DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?"AND THIS IS ABOUT OUR
  • 00:47:07.441 --> 00:47:08.142
  • AND THIS IS ABOUT OURORIGINS.
  • 00:47:08.142 --> 00:47:08.943
  • ORIGINS.WHERE DO WE COME FROM?
  • 00:47:08.943 --> 00:47:09.844
  • WHERE DO WE COME FROM?AND SO "AM I HERE BY
  • 00:47:09.844 --> 00:47:10.845
  • AND SO "AM I HERE BYACCIDENT?"
  • 00:47:10.845 --> 00:47:11.645
  • ACCIDENT?""DID THE UNIVERSE JUST
  • 00:47:11.645 --> 00:47:12.913
  • "DID THE UNIVERSE JUSTSPRING INTO BEING, AND
  • 00:47:12.913 --> 00:47:13.714
  • SPRING INTO BEING, ANDTHEN BILLIONS OF YEARS
  • 00:47:13.714 --> 00:47:14.615
  • THEN BILLIONS OF YEARSAGO, IN A POOL, AN
  • 00:47:14.615 --> 00:47:16.150
  • AGO, IN A POOL, ANACCIDENT HAPPENED, AND
  • 00:47:16.150 --> 00:47:17.418
  • ACCIDENT HAPPENED, ANDOVER THE COURSE OF TIME,
  • 00:47:17.418 --> 00:47:17.852
  • OVER THE COURSE OF TIME,WE EVOLVED?"
  • 00:47:17.852 --> 00:47:18.719
  • WE EVOLVED?"AND WE WORRY ABOUT THIS
  • 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:19.920
  • AND WE WORRY ABOUT THISBECAUSE WE HAD ALMOST NO
  • 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.088
  • BECAUSE WE HAD ALMOST NOCONTROL OVER WHO WE ARE,
  • 00:47:21.088 --> 00:47:23.457
  • CONTROL OVER WHO WE ARE,WHERE WE'RE BORN, THE
  • 00:47:23.457 --> 00:47:24.291
  • WHERE WE'RE BORN, THECOLOR OF OUR SKIN, OUR
  • 00:47:24.291 --> 00:47:25.092
  • COLOR OF OUR SKIN, OURAGENDA, WHERE WE LIVE IN
  • 00:47:25.092 --> 00:47:25.926
  • AGENDA, WHERE WE LIVE INHISTORY.
  • 00:47:25.926 --> 00:47:26.994
  • HISTORY.SO WE WANNA KNOW, "AM I
  • 00:47:26.994 --> 00:47:27.862
  • SO WE WANNA KNOW, "AM IHERE ON PURPOSE OR NOT?"
  • 00:47:27.862 --> 00:47:30.064
  • HERE ON PURPOSE OR NOT?"AND THE BIBLE MAKES THE
  • 00:47:30.064 --> 00:47:30.798
  • AND THE BIBLE MAKES THECLAIM, "YES, GOD CREATED
  • 00:47:30.798 --> 00:47:32.333
  • CLAIM, "YES, GOD CREATEDTHE WORLD FOR HIS GLORY,
  • 00:47:32.333 --> 00:47:34.268
  • THE WORLD FOR HIS GLORY,AND HE WANTED YOU TO BE A
  • 00:47:34.268 --> 00:47:34.835
  • AND HE WANTED YOU TO BE APART OF HIS STORY."
  • 00:47:34.835 --> 00:47:35.402
  • PART OF HIS STORY."HE KNEW YOU BEFORE THE
  • 00:47:35.402 --> 00:47:36.337
  • HE KNEW YOU BEFORE THECREATION OF THE WORLD, AND
  • 00:47:36.337 --> 00:47:37.438
  • CREATION OF THE WORLD, ANDHE CHOSE YOU.
  • 00:47:37.438 --> 00:47:38.439
  • HE CHOSE YOU.SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET OUR
  • 00:47:38.439 --> 00:47:39.340
  • SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET OURSENSE OF WORTH AND OUR
  • 00:47:39.340 --> 00:47:39.740
  • SENSE OF WORTH AND OURDIGNITY.
  • 00:47:39.740 --> 00:47:41.442
  • DIGNITY."DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?"
  • 00:47:41.442 --> 00:47:42.476
  • "DOES ANYBODY WANT ME?"AND THE BIBLE SAYS, "YES,
  • 00:47:42.476 --> 00:47:43.477
  • AND THE BIBLE SAYS, "YES,YOU'RE WANTED BY GOD."
  • 00:47:43.477 --> 00:47:45.346
  • YOU'RE WANTED BY GOD."KNOWN, CHOSEN LOVED.
  • 00:47:45.346 --> 00:47:46.847
  • KNOWN, CHOSEN LOVED.THE SECOND GREAT QUESTION
  • 00:47:46.847 --> 00:47:48.015
  • THE SECOND GREAT QUESTIONTHE HUMAN HEART IS-- "WILL
  • 00:47:48.015 --> 00:47:49.416
  • THE HUMAN HEART IS-- "WILLANYBODY STILL WANT ME IF
  • 00:47:49.416 --> 00:47:50.217
  • ANYBODY STILL WANT ME IFTHEY KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE
  • 00:47:50.217 --> 00:47:50.684
  • THEY KNOW WHAT I'VE DONEWRONG?"
  • 00:47:50.684 --> 00:47:52.286
  • WRONG?"AND THIS IS ABOUT SIN.
  • 00:47:52.286 --> 00:47:53.654
  • AND THIS IS ABOUT SIN.WE KNOW THAT WE'VE TURNED
  • 00:47:53.654 --> 00:47:54.722
  • WE KNOW THAT WE'VE TURNEDOUR BACK ON GOD.
  • 00:47:54.722 --> 00:47:55.856
  • OUR BACK ON GOD.WE'VE REBELLED AGAINST HIS
  • 00:47:55.856 --> 00:47:56.824
  • WE'VE REBELLED AGAINST HISCOMMANDS AND HIS PRESENCE.
  • 00:47:56.824 --> 00:47:58.125
  • COMMANDS AND HIS PRESENCE.THEREFORE, WE FEEL IN OUR
  • 00:47:58.125 --> 00:48:00.060
  • THEREFORE, WE FEEL IN OURBEING, WE FEEL THE EFFECTS
  • 00:48:00.060 --> 00:48:02.897
  • BEING, WE FEEL THE EFFECTSOF IT, WHICH IS SHAME:
  • 00:48:02.897 --> 00:48:03.497
  • OF IT, WHICH IS SHAME:"THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG
  • 00:48:03.497 --> 00:48:04.031
  • "THERE'S SOMETHING WRONGWITH ME."
  • 00:48:04.031 --> 00:48:04.665
  • WITH ME."AND WE FEEL GUILT WHEN WE
  • 00:48:04.665 --> 00:48:06.133
  • AND WE FEEL GUILT WHEN WEDO THE WRONG THING.
  • 00:48:06.133 --> 00:48:06.700
  • DO THE WRONG THING.AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO
  • 00:48:06.700 --> 00:48:07.501
  • AND SO WE'RE TRYING TOFIGURE OUT "WHAT DO I DO
  • 00:48:07.501 --> 00:48:08.068
  • FIGURE OUT "WHAT DO I DOWITH THIS?"
  • 00:48:08.068 --> 00:48:09.169
  • WITH THIS?"THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE
  • 00:48:09.169 --> 00:48:10.204
  • THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THEPENALTY FOR THAT IS SIN--
  • 00:48:10.204 --> 00:48:12.539
  • PENALTY FOR THAT IS SIN--SORRY-- IS DEATH.
  • 00:48:12.539 --> 00:48:13.607
  • SORRY-- IS DEATH.SO WHEN WE SIN AGAINST
  • 00:48:13.607 --> 00:48:15.276
  • SO WHEN WE SIN AGAINSTGOD, WE FACE THE REALITY
  • 00:48:15.276 --> 00:48:17.478
  • GOD, WE FACE THE REALITYOF DEATH.
  • 00:48:17.478 --> 00:48:19.079
  • OF DEATH.IT'S DEATH PHYSICALLY.
  • 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:19.713
  • IT'S DEATH PHYSICALLY.IT'S ALSO DEATH
  • 00:48:19.713 --> 00:48:20.547
  • IT'S ALSO DEATHSPIRITUALLY.
  • 00:48:20.547 --> 00:48:22.349
  • SPIRITUALLY.AND SO THIS PUTS US IN A
  • 00:48:22.349 --> 00:48:23.684
  • AND SO THIS PUTS US IN ATREMENDOUS POSITION OF
  • 00:48:23.684 --> 00:48:26.153
  • TREMENDOUS POSITION OFDESPAIR AND ANGST, AND
  • 00:48:26.153 --> 00:48:27.888
  • DESPAIR AND ANGST, ANDTHEN MANY OF US, WE'RE
  • 00:48:27.888 --> 00:48:28.923
  • THEN MANY OF US, WE'RETRYIN' TO ANSWER THE
  • 00:48:28.923 --> 00:48:30.024
  • TRYIN' TO ANSWER THEQUESTION, "HOW DO I GET
  • 00:48:30.024 --> 00:48:30.691
  • QUESTION, "HOW DO I GETOUT OF THIS?"
  • 00:48:30.691 --> 00:48:31.926
  • OUT OF THIS?"THE HUMAN INSTINCT IS TO
  • 00:48:31.926 --> 00:48:34.361
  • THE HUMAN INSTINCT IS TOTRY AND SAVE OURSELVES.
  • 00:48:34.361 --> 00:48:35.195
  • TRY AND SAVE OURSELVES.WE SAVE OURSELVES THROUGH
  • 00:48:35.195 --> 00:48:36.030
  • WE SAVE OURSELVES THROUGHACCOMPLISHMENTS, WE TRY
  • 00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:36.897
  • ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WE TRYAND SAVE OURSELVES THROUGH
  • 00:48:36.897 --> 00:48:37.865
  • AND SAVE OURSELVES THROUGHPOLITICS, WE TRY AND SAVE
  • 00:48:37.865 --> 00:48:38.933
  • POLITICS, WE TRY AND SAVEOURSELVES THROUGH
  • 00:48:38.933 --> 00:48:39.633
  • OURSELVES THROUGHTECHNOLOGY, BUT THEY'RE
  • 00:48:39.633 --> 00:48:41.268
  • TECHNOLOGY, BUT THEY'REALL JUST GIANT FIG LEAVES
  • 00:48:41.268 --> 00:48:43.337
  • ALL JUST GIANT FIG LEAVESTRYIN' TO HIDE OUR SHAME
  • 00:48:43.337 --> 00:48:44.505
  • TRYIN' TO HIDE OUR SHAMEAND EMBARRASSMENT BECAUSE
  • 00:48:44.505 --> 00:48:45.739
  • AND EMBARRASSMENT BECAUSEWE'RE EXPOSED BEFORE GOD,
  • 00:48:45.739 --> 00:48:47.174
  • WE'RE EXPOSED BEFORE GOD,AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE
  • 00:48:47.174 --> 00:48:47.942
  • AND THAT BRINGS US TO THETHIRD QUESTION, AND THAT
  • 00:48:47.942 --> 00:48:49.610
  • THIRD QUESTION, AND THATTHIRD QUESTION IS THIS:
  • 00:48:49.610 --> 00:48:51.211
  • THIRD QUESTION IS THIS:"CAN ANYBODY CHANGE ME?"
  • 00:48:51.211 --> 00:48:52.479
  • "CAN ANYBODY CHANGE ME?""HOW DO I CHANGE?"
  • 00:48:52.479 --> 00:48:53.981
  • "HOW DO I CHANGE?"WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY OF,
  • 00:48:53.981 --> 00:48:56.583
  • WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY OF,SORT OF, SELF-DISCOVERY
  • 00:48:56.583 --> 00:48:58.152
  • SORT OF, SELF-DISCOVERYAND SELF-IMPROVEMENT.
  • 00:48:58.152 --> 00:48:59.954
  • AND SELF-IMPROVEMENT.YOU KNOW, EVERY NEW YEAR
  • 00:48:59.954 --> 00:49:01.055
  • YOU KNOW, EVERY NEW YEARIS GONNA BE A NEW YOU FOR
  • 00:49:01.055 --> 00:49:02.456
  • IS GONNA BE A NEW YOU FORA NEW YEAR, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:49:02.456 --> 00:49:03.057
  • A NEW YEAR, AND YOU'REGONNA JOIN A GYM, AND
  • 00:49:03.057 --> 00:49:04.992
  • GONNA JOIN A GYM, ANDYOU'RE GONNA GET RID OF
  • 00:49:04.992 --> 00:49:05.826
  • YOU'RE GONNA GET RID OFYOUR BAD HABITS, AND, YOU
  • 00:49:05.826 --> 00:49:06.827
  • YOUR BAD HABITS, AND, YOUKNOW, THREE MONTHS LATER,
  • 00:49:06.827 --> 00:49:07.494
  • KNOW, THREE MONTHS LATER,IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE OLD
  • 00:49:07.494 --> 00:49:10.164
  • IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE OLDYOU IN A NEW YEAR.
  • 00:49:10.164 --> 00:49:11.065
  • YOU IN A NEW YEAR.WE CAN'T SAVE OURSELVES,
  • 00:49:11.065 --> 00:49:12.733
  • WE CAN'T SAVE OURSELVES,AND THE RELIGIOUS INSTINCT
  • 00:49:12.733 --> 00:49:14.234
  • AND THE RELIGIOUS INSTINCTSAYS, "I'M GONNA TRY AND
  • 00:49:14.234 --> 00:49:14.935
  • SAYS, "I'M GONNA TRY ANDDO ENOUGH GOOD DEEDS, AND
  • 00:49:14.935 --> 00:49:17.438
  • DO ENOUGH GOOD DEEDS, ANDIF I DO ENOUGH GOOD DEEDS,
  • 00:49:17.438 --> 00:49:17.938
  • IF I DO ENOUGH GOOD DEEDS,THEN I'LL BECOME A
  • 00:49:17.938 --> 00:49:18.639
  • THEN I'LL BECOME ADIFFERENT PERSON."
  • 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:21.175
  • DIFFERENT PERSON."BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE IN, AND IT
  • 00:49:21.175 --> 00:49:21.775
  • BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE IN, AND ITDOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.
  • 00:49:21.775 --> 00:49:22.476
  • DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.THE GOSPEL ADDRESSES,
  • 00:49:22.476 --> 00:49:23.777
  • THE GOSPEL ADDRESSES,THROUGH THE POWER OF THE
  • 00:49:23.777 --> 00:49:25.045
  • THROUGH THE POWER OF THEHOLY SPIRIT, OUR INNER BEING.
  • 00:49:25.045 --> 00:49:27.147
  • HOLY SPIRIT, OUR INNER BEING.IT MAKES OUR DEAD SPIRITS
  • 00:49:27.147 --> 00:49:28.415
  • IT MAKES OUR DEAD SPIRITSALIVE SO WE CAN HAVE
  • 00:49:28.415 --> 00:49:29.750
  • ALIVE SO WE CAN HAVEFELLOWSHIP WITH GOD, WHO
  • 00:49:29.750 --> 00:49:32.119
  • FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD, WHOIS A SPIRIT, AND THEN HE
  • 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:32.753
  • IS A SPIRIT, AND THEN HEBEGINS TO CHANGE US FROM
  • 00:49:32.753 --> 00:49:33.387
  • BEGINS TO CHANGE US FROMTHE INSIDE OUT.
  • 00:49:33.387 --> 00:49:34.154
  • THE INSIDE OUT.HE CHANGES OUR DESIRES, HE
  • 00:49:34.154 --> 00:49:35.222
  • HE CHANGES OUR DESIRES, HECHANGES OUR HABITS, HE
  • 00:49:35.222 --> 00:49:36.323
  • CHANGES OUR HABITS, HECHANGES OUR THINKING, AND
  • 00:49:36.323 --> 00:49:37.758
  • CHANGES OUR THINKING, ANDAS WE LEARN TO WALK IN THE
  • 00:49:37.758 --> 00:49:38.792
  • AS WE LEARN TO WALK IN THESPIRIT AND WE LEARN TO
  • 00:49:38.792 --> 00:49:40.995
  • SPIRIT AND WE LEARN TOPARTNER WITH HIM, THAT'S
  • 00:49:40.995 --> 00:49:41.528
  • PARTNER WITH HIM, THAT'STHE REALITY THAT WE
  • 00:49:41.528 --> 00:49:42.396
  • THE REALITY THAT WEEXPERIENCE.
  • 00:49:42.396 --> 00:49:43.063
  • EXPERIENCE.- MATT: HOW WOULD
  • 00:49:43.063 --> 00:49:44.098
  • - MATT: HOW WOULDSOMEBODY IN OUR AUDIENCE,
  • 00:49:44.098 --> 00:49:47.167
  • SOMEBODY IN OUR AUDIENCE,START JOINING IN WITH WHAT
  • 00:49:47.167 --> 00:49:47.935
  • START JOINING IN WITH WHATYOU-- THEY'RE JUST, KIND
  • 00:49:47.935 --> 00:49:48.569
  • YOU-- THEY'RE JUST, KINDOF, RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE
  • 00:49:48.569 --> 00:49:52.606
  • OF, RIGHT THERE BEHIND THECAMERA 3 THERE.
  • 00:49:52.606 --> 00:49:53.240
  • CAMERA 3 THERE.- JON: YEAH, WELL, CAN I
  • 00:49:53.240 --> 00:49:54.341
  • 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A
  • 00:49:56.010 --> 00:49:57.244
  • BEAUTIFUL VERSE IN THE
  • 00:49:57.244 --> 00:49:57.878
  • BOOK OF TITUS, AND IT SAYS
  • 00:49:57.878 --> 00:49:59.646
  • THIS: "AT ONE TIME WE TOO
  • 00:49:59.646 --> 00:50:01.315
  • WERE FOOLISH, DISOBEDIENT,
  • 00:50:01.315 --> 00:50:03.050
  • DECEIVED AND ENSLAVED BY
  • 00:50:03.050 --> 00:50:04.318
  • ALL KINDS OF PASSIONS AND
  • 00:50:04.318 --> 00:50:06.453
  • PLEASURES.
  • 00:50:06.453 --> 00:50:07.021
  • WE LIVED IN MALICE AND
  • 00:50:07.021 --> 00:50:08.155
  • ENVY, BEING HATED AND
  • 00:50:08.155 --> 00:50:10.624
  • HATING ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:50:10.624 --> 00:50:11.925
  • BUT WHEN THE KINDNESS AND
  • 00:50:11.925 --> 00:50:13.861
  • LOVE OF GOD OUR SAVIOR
  • 00:50:13.861 --> 00:50:14.862
  • APPEARED, HE SAVED US, NOT
  • 00:50:14.862 --> 00:50:16.997
  • BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS
  • 00:50:16.997 --> 00:50:18.198
  • THINGS WE HAD DONE, BUT
  • 00:50:18.198 --> 00:50:19.933
  • BECAUSE OF HIS MERCY.
  • 00:50:19.933 --> 00:50:21.468
  • HE SAVED US THROUGH THE
  • 00:50:21.468 --> 00:50:22.736
  • WASHING OF REBIRTH AND
  • 00:50:22.736 --> 00:50:23.270
  • RENEWAL BY THE HOLY
  • 00:50:23.270 --> 00:50:24.471
  • SPIRIT, WHO HE POURED OUT
  • 00:50:24.471 --> 00:50:25.739
  • ON US GENEROUSLY THROUGH
  • 00:50:25.739 --> 00:50:27.307
  • JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR, SO
  • 00:50:27.307 --> 00:50:28.742
  • THAT, HAVING BEEN
  • 00:50:28.742 --> 00:50:30.244
  • JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE, WE
  • 00:50:30.244 --> 00:50:33.647
  • MIGHT BECOME HEIRS HAVING
  • 00:50:33.647 --> 00:50:35.582
  • AND I LOVE THIS VERSE.
  • 00:50:37.985 --> 00:50:38.585
  • AND I LOVE THIS VERSE.THIS VERSE SAYS THAT ALL
  • 00:50:38.585 --> 00:50:39.186
  • THIS VERSE SAYS THAT ALLOF US, AT ONE TIME, WERE
  • 00:50:39.186 --> 00:50:39.787
  • OF US, AT ONE TIME, WERESEPARATED FROM GOD, AND
  • 00:50:39.787 --> 00:50:41.188
  • SEPARATED FROM GOD, ANDYOU MAY BE LISTENING TO
  • 00:50:41.188 --> 00:50:42.056
  • YOU MAY BE LISTENING TOTHIS TODAY, AND YOU FEEL THAT.
  • 00:50:42.056 --> 00:50:44.858
  • THIS TODAY, AND YOU FEEL THAT.YOU FEEL LIKE A PRODIGAL.
  • 00:50:44.858 --> 00:50:46.193
  • YOU FEEL LIKE A PRODIGAL.OR YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S
  • 00:50:46.193 --> 00:50:47.728
  • OR YOU KNOW WHAT IT'SLIKE TO BE WITH GOD, BUT
  • 00:50:47.728 --> 00:50:48.796
  • LIKE TO BE WITH GOD, BUTYOU'VE RUN AWAY.
  • 00:50:48.796 --> 00:50:49.363
  • YOU'VE RUN AWAY.MAYBE YOU'VE RUN AWAY
  • 00:50:49.363 --> 00:50:49.997
  • MAYBE YOU'VE RUN AWAYPHYSICALLY.
  • 00:50:49.997 --> 00:50:50.597
  • PHYSICALLY.MAYBE YOU'VE RUN AWAY IN
  • 00:50:50.597 --> 00:50:51.365
  • MAYBE YOU'VE RUN AWAY INYOUR HEART.
  • 00:50:51.365 --> 00:50:53.934
  • YOUR HEART.AND OFTEN, RELIGION MAKES
  • 00:50:53.934 --> 00:50:54.968
  • AND OFTEN, RELIGION MAKESUS THINK, "I NEED TO CLEAN
  • 00:50:54.968 --> 00:50:56.036
  • US THINK, "I NEED TO CLEANMYSELF UP BEFORE I COME
  • 00:50:56.036 --> 00:50:57.438
  • MYSELF UP BEFORE I COMEBACK TO GOD," BUT THAT'S
  • 00:50:57.438 --> 00:50:59.473
  • BACK TO GOD," BUT THAT'SNOT WHAT THE GOSPEL SAYS.
  • 00:50:59.473 --> 00:51:00.207
  • NOT WHAT THE GOSPEL SAYS.THE GOSPEL SAYS,
  • 00:51:00.207 --> 00:51:00.774
  • THE GOSPEL SAYS,"COME AS YOU ARE."
  • 00:51:00.774 --> 00:51:02.142
  • "COME AS YOU ARE."ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ADMIT
  • 00:51:02.142 --> 00:51:03.277
  • ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ADMITYOUR NEED FOR GOD.
  • 00:51:03.277 --> 00:51:05.446
  • YOUR NEED FOR GOD.ADMIT YOU'VE FALLEN SHORT.
  • 00:51:05.446 --> 00:51:06.713
  • ADMIT YOU'VE FALLEN SHORT.ADMIT YOU CAN'T SAVE
  • 00:51:06.713 --> 00:51:07.281
  • ADMIT YOU CAN'T SAVEYOURSELF.
  • 00:51:07.281 --> 00:51:09.216
  • YOURSELF.MANY JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE
  • 00:51:09.216 --> 00:51:09.783
  • MANY JUST HAVE TO BELIEVEIN JESUS.
  • 00:51:09.783 --> 00:51:10.951
  • IN JESUS.YOU HAVE TO SEE HIM AS THE
  • 00:51:10.951 --> 00:51:12.519
  • YOU HAVE TO SEE HIM AS THESAVIOR OF THE WORLD, THE
  • 00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:13.921
  • SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, THEONE WHO'S COME FOR US, AND
  • 00:51:13.921 --> 00:51:15.222
  • ONE WHO'S COME FOR US, ANDHE HASN'T COME TO CONDEMN US.
  • 00:51:15.222 --> 00:51:16.523
  • HE HASN'T COME TO CONDEMN US.HE'S COME TO GIVE US LIFE.
  • 00:51:16.523 --> 00:51:17.691
  • HE'S COME TO GIVE US LIFE.ON THE CROSS, HE TOOK AWAY
  • 00:51:17.691 --> 00:51:19.226
  • ON THE CROSS, HE TOOK AWAYTHE PENALTY OF OUR SIN.
  • 00:51:19.226 --> 00:51:20.727
  • THE PENALTY OF OUR SIN.HE TAKES AWAY THE POWER OF
  • 00:51:20.727 --> 00:51:22.463
  • HE TAKES AWAY THE POWER OFOUR SIN, AND HE INVITES US
  • 00:51:22.463 --> 00:51:23.597
  • OUR SIN, AND HE INVITES USINTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:51:23.597 --> 00:51:25.232
  • INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITHHIM AS A PERSON, AND THE
  • 00:51:25.232 --> 00:51:26.667
  • HIM AS A PERSON, AND THEGOSPEL ALSO BRINGS US THIS
  • 00:51:26.667 --> 00:51:28.268
  • GOSPEL ALSO BRINGS US THISWONDERFUL NEWS THAT HE
  • 00:51:28.268 --> 00:51:30.170
  • WONDERFUL NEWS THAT HEWILL PUT HIS SPIRIT WITHIN
  • 00:51:30.170 --> 00:51:31.238
  • WILL PUT HIS SPIRIT WITHINUS AND GIVE US POWER TO
  • 00:51:31.238 --> 00:51:32.940
  • US AND GIVE US POWER TOWALK WITH HIM, TO RIGHTLY
  • 00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:34.675
  • WALK WITH HIM, TO RIGHTLYORDER OUR LOVE AND OUR
  • 00:51:34.675 --> 00:51:36.210
  • ORDER OUR LOVE AND OURLIVES AND TO BEGIN A
  • 00:51:36.210 --> 00:51:37.611
  • LIVES AND TO BEGIN APROCESS OF RESTORATION
  • 00:51:37.611 --> 00:51:38.879
  • PROCESS OF RESTORATIONTHROUGH THE WORK OF THE
  • 00:51:38.879 --> 00:51:39.847
  • THROUGH THE WORK OF THEHOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:51:39.847 --> 00:51:40.781
  • HOLY SPIRIT.SO IF YOU'RE HEARING THIS
  • 00:51:40.781 --> 00:51:41.815
  • SO IF YOU'RE HEARING THISTODAY, I JUST WANNA
  • 00:51:41.815 --> 00:51:42.850
  • TODAY, I JUST WANNAENCOURAGE YOU, DO NOT BE
  • 00:51:42.850 --> 00:51:44.585
  • ENCOURAGE YOU, DO NOT BEOVERCOME BY YOUR GUILT,
  • 00:51:44.585 --> 00:51:45.652
  • OVERCOME BY YOUR GUILT,YOUR SHAME, FEAR, OR
  • 00:51:45.652 --> 00:51:47.054
  • YOUR SHAME, FEAR, ORCONDEMNATION.
  • 00:51:47.054 --> 00:51:48.789
  • CONDEMNATION.LOOK TO JESUS.
  • 00:51:48.789 --> 00:51:50.424
  • LOOK TO JESUS.HE'S A FRIEND OF SINNERS.
  • 00:51:50.424 --> 00:51:51.558
  • HE'S A FRIEND OF SINNERS.HE'S THE SAVIOR OF THE
  • 00:51:51.558 --> 00:51:52.059
  • HE'S THE SAVIOR OF THEWORLD.
  • 00:51:52.059 --> 00:51:53.794
  • WORLD.PUT YOUR TRUST IN WHAT
  • 00:51:53.794 --> 00:51:54.528
  • PUT YOUR TRUST IN WHATHE'S DONE FOR YOU ON THE CROSS.
  • 00:51:54.528 --> 00:51:56.096
  • HE'S DONE FOR YOU ON THE CROSS.TURN AWAY FROM YOUR SIN.
  • 00:51:56.096 --> 00:51:57.498
  • TURN AWAY FROM YOUR SIN.INVITE HIM INTO YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:51:57.498 --> 00:51:59.633
  • INVITE HIM INTO YOUR LIFE,AND THEN SURRENDER
  • 00:51:59.633 --> 00:52:00.901
  • AND THEN SURRENDERYOURSELF TO BE A PART OF
  • 00:52:00.901 --> 00:52:02.469
  • YOURSELF TO BE A PART OFHIS KINGDOM AND HIS WORK
  • 00:52:02.469 --> 00:52:03.103
  • HIS KINGDOM AND HIS WORKOF RESTORATION AND RENEWAL
  • 00:52:03.103 --> 00:52:04.838
  • OF RESTORATION AND RENEWALIN THE WORLD TODAY.
  • 00:52:04.838 --> 00:52:06.039
  • IN THE WORLD TODAY.- MATT: WHY DON'T YOU
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  • - MATT: WHY DON'T YOUPRAY WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S
  • 00:52:07.174 --> 00:52:07.841
  • PRAY WITH SOMEBODY THAT'SREADY TO MAKE THAT DECISION?
  • 00:52:07.841 --> 00:52:08.909
  • READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION?JUST LEAD THEM IN A PRAYER.
  • 00:52:08.909 --> 00:52:10.544
  • JUST LEAD THEM IN A PRAYER.IT'D BE BEAUTIFUL.
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  • IT'D BE BEAUTIFUL.- JON: OKAY, YEAH, IF YOU
  • 00:52:11.545 --> 00:52:12.880
  • - JON: OKAY, YEAH, IF YOUSENSE IN YOUR HEART THE
  • 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:14.214
  • SENSE IN YOUR HEART THEHOLY SPIRIT, WHEREVER
  • 00:52:14.214 --> 00:52:14.815
  • HOLY SPIRIT, WHEREVERYOU'RE LISTENING, IF YOU
  • 00:52:14.815 --> 00:52:15.849
  • YOU'RE LISTENING, IF YOUSENSE THE SPIRIT OF GOD
  • 00:52:15.849 --> 00:52:17.217
  • SENSE THE SPIRIT OF GODDRAWING YOUR HEART BACK,
  • 00:52:17.217 --> 00:52:19.286
  • DRAWING YOUR HEART BACK,WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY A
  • 00:52:19.286 --> 00:52:19.786
  • WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY APRAYER LIKE THIS?
  • 00:52:19.786 --> 00:52:22.022
  • PRAYER LIKE THIS?FATHER, I HEAR YOUR WORD.
  • 00:52:22.022 --> 00:52:23.657
  • FATHER, I HEAR YOUR WORD.I HEAR YOUR MESSAGE.
  • 00:52:23.657 --> 00:52:26.760
  • I HEAR YOUR MESSAGE.I HEAR YOUR INVITATION.
  • 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.629
  • I HEAR YOUR INVITATION.I CONFESS THAT I'VE SINNED.
  • 00:52:28.629 --> 00:52:30.397
  • I CONFESS THAT I'VE SINNED.I CONFESS THAT I'VE TRIED
  • 00:52:30.397 --> 00:52:31.798
  • I CONFESS THAT I'VE TRIEDTO SAVE MYSELF AND THAT
  • 00:52:31.798 --> 00:52:32.766
  • TO SAVE MYSELF AND THATI'M GUILTY, AND IT DOESN'T
  • 00:52:32.766 --> 00:52:34.535
  • I'M GUILTY, AND IT DOESN'TWORK.
  • 00:52:34.535 --> 00:52:37.104
  • WORK.I SEE THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:52:37.104 --> 00:52:39.406
  • I SEE THE HOLY SPIRITPUTTING JESUS ON THE CROSS
  • 00:52:39.406 --> 00:52:40.674
  • PUTTING JESUS ON THE CROSSAND LIGHTING IT IN MY
  • 00:52:40.674 --> 00:52:42.509
  • AND LIGHTING IT IN MYMIND, AND I TRUST IN HIM,
  • 00:52:42.509 --> 00:52:43.810
  • MIND, AND I TRUST IN HIM,SO I GIVE MYSELF TO YOU,
  • 00:52:43.810 --> 00:52:46.680
  • SO I GIVE MYSELF TO YOU,LORD, JESUS.
  • 00:52:46.680 --> 00:52:48.048
  • LORD, JESUS.I ASKED YOU TO FORGIVE ME
  • 00:52:48.048 --> 00:52:48.982
  • I ASKED YOU TO FORGIVE MEFOR MY SIN, COME INTO MY
  • 00:52:48.982 --> 00:52:49.516
  • FOR MY SIN, COME INTO MYLIFE, AND MAKE ME A
  • 00:52:49.516 --> 00:52:50.517
  • LIFE, AND MAKE ME ANEW PERSON.
  • 00:52:50.517 --> 00:52:51.518
  • NEW PERSON.I THANK YOU THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:52:51.518 --> 00:52:52.986
  • I THANK YOU THAT YOU'VEFORGIVEN ME.
  • 00:52:52.986 --> 00:52:54.354
  • FORGIVEN ME.I THANK YOU THAT YOU GIVE
  • 00:52:54.354 --> 00:52:56.223
  • I THANK YOU THAT YOU GIVEME FREEDOM, AND I PROMISED
  • 00:52:56.223 --> 00:52:57.991
  • ME FREEDOM, AND I PROMISEDTO WALK WITH YOU ALL THE
  • 00:52:57.991 --> 00:52:58.825
  • TO WALK WITH YOU ALL THEDAYS OF MY LIFE, AMEN.
  • 00:52:58.825 --> 00:53:01.495
  • DAYS OF MY LIFE, AMEN.- MATT: WOW, BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:01.495 --> 00:53:03.230
  • - MATT: WOW, BEAUTIFUL.DO YOU REALIZE WHAT WE'VE
  • 00:53:03.230 --> 00:53:04.998
  • DO YOU REALIZE WHAT WE'VEJUST SAT DOWN HERE AND
  • 00:53:04.998 --> 00:53:06.633
  • JUST SAT DOWN HERE ANDDONE, JON?
  • 00:53:06.633 --> 00:53:08.268
  • DONE, JON?WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JESUS.
  • 00:53:08.268 --> 00:53:09.937
  • WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JESUS.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HIS
  • 00:53:09.937 --> 00:53:13.073
  • WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HISPOSITIONING IN CULTURE,
  • 00:53:13.073 --> 00:53:14.107
  • POSITIONING IN CULTURE,RIGHT AND WRONG, AND WE
  • 00:53:14.107 --> 00:53:18.045
  • RIGHT AND WRONG, AND WEHAVE INTRODUCED PEOPLE IN
  • 00:53:18.045 --> 00:53:20.214
  • HAVE INTRODUCED PEOPLE INTHE TELEVISION AUDIENCE TO
  • 00:53:20.214 --> 00:53:23.050
  • THE TELEVISION AUDIENCE TOTHE LOVE AND THE POWER AND
  • 00:53:23.050 --> 00:53:24.885
  • THE LOVE AND THE POWER ANDTHE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS.
  • 00:53:24.885 --> 00:53:25.686
  • THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS.THAT'S WHAT TBN WAS RAISED
  • 00:53:25.686 --> 00:53:28.188
  • THAT'S WHAT TBN WAS RAISEDUP TO DO.
  • 00:53:28.188 --> 00:53:28.855
  • UP TO DO.- JON: THAT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:53:28.855 --> 00:53:30.023
  • - JON: THAT'S AMAZING.- MATT: THIS ONE HOUR HAS
  • 00:53:30.023 --> 00:53:30.657
  • - MATT: THIS ONE HOUR HASBEEN RIGHT IN THE CENTER
  • 00:53:30.657 --> 00:53:33.760
  • BEEN RIGHT IN THE CENTEROF THE TARGET OF WHAT I
  • 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:37.464
  • OF THE TARGET OF WHAT IBELIEVE GOD SPOKE TO MY
  • 00:53:37.464 --> 00:53:38.966
  • BELIEVE GOD SPOKE TO MYPARENTS, PAUL AND JAN CROUCH,
  • 00:53:38.966 --> 00:53:41.301
  • PARENTS, PAUL AND JAN CROUCH,YEARS AGO.
  • 00:53:41.301 --> 00:53:42.536
  • YEARS AGO.TBN IS GOD'S IDEA-- WAS
  • 00:53:42.536 --> 00:53:44.271
  • TBN IS GOD'S IDEA-- WASHIS PLAN, AND I THINK
  • 00:53:44.271 --> 00:53:45.405
  • HIS PLAN, AND I THINKTONIGHT'S BROADCAST IS
  • 00:53:45.405 --> 00:53:46.940
  • TONIGHT'S BROADCAST ISCENTER OF THE TARGET, SO
  • 00:53:46.940 --> 00:53:49.476
  • CENTER OF THE TARGET, SOFOR THAT, THANK YOU, BROTHER.
  • 00:53:49.476 --> 00:53:50.043
  • FOR THAT, THANK YOU, BROTHER.- LAURIE: YEAH, AND I
  • 00:53:50.043 --> 00:53:52.179
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, AND ILOVE WHAT YOU DO.
  • 00:53:52.179 --> 00:53:53.247
  • LOVE WHAT YOU DO.YOU'RE PASTORING RIGHT
  • 00:53:53.247 --> 00:53:54.481
  • YOU'RE PASTORING RIGHTHERE IN NEW YORK CITY,
  • 00:53:54.481 --> 00:53:56.883
  • HERE IN NEW YORK CITY,THREE CAMPUSES?
  • 00:53:56.883 --> 00:53:58.485
  • - LAURIE: AND YOU DO ALL
  • 00:54:00.287 --> 00:54:00.721
  • - LAURIE: AND YOU DO ALLYOUR SERVICES.
  • 00:54:00.721 --> 00:54:01.388
  • YOUR SERVICES.THAT'S SO IMPRESSIVE--
  • 00:54:01.388 --> 00:54:01.955
  • THAT'S SO IMPRESSIVE--I MEAN, ON A WEEKEND.
  • 00:54:01.955 --> 00:54:02.589
  • I MEAN, ON A WEEKEND.- JON: YES, THAT'S RIGHT,
  • 00:54:02.589 --> 00:54:03.257
  • - JON: YES, THAT'S RIGHT,YES, I DO PREACH LIVE, YEAH.
  • 00:54:03.257 --> 00:54:04.391
  • YES, I DO PREACH LIVE, YEAH.- LAURIE: IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:54:04.391 --> 00:54:05.993
  • - LAURIE: IT'S AMAZING.SO THAT'S A HUGE DEAL TO
  • 00:54:05.993 --> 00:54:07.027
  • SO THAT'S A HUGE DEAL TOPASTOR IN NEW YORK CITY.
  • 00:54:07.027 --> 00:54:08.462
  • PASTOR IN NEW YORK CITY.- JON: I TELL PEOPLE I
  • 00:54:08.462 --> 00:54:09.997
  • - JON: I TELL PEOPLE IMOVED TO NEW YORK BECAUSE
  • 00:54:09.997 --> 00:54:10.764
  • MOVED TO NEW YORK BECAUSEI THOUGHT IT WAS STRATEGIC,
  • 00:54:10.764 --> 00:54:11.665
  • I THOUGHT IT WAS STRATEGIC,AND I STAYED IN NEW YORK
  • 00:54:11.665 --> 00:54:13.166
  • AND I STAYED IN NEW YORKBECAUSE I'VE FALLEN
  • 00:54:13.166 --> 00:54:13.700
  • BECAUSE I'VE FALLENIN LOVE WITH IT.
  • 00:54:13.700 --> 00:54:16.303
  • IN LOVE WITH IT.THIS IS MY HOME.
  • 00:54:16.303 --> 00:54:16.837
  • THIS IS MY HOME.I LOVE THESE PEOPLE.
  • 00:54:16.837 --> 00:54:18.171
  • I LOVE THESE PEOPLE.THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
  • 00:54:18.171 --> 00:54:18.839
  • THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR.- LAURIE: I TELL YOU WHAT.
  • 00:54:18.839 --> 00:54:19.539
  • - LAURIE: I TELL YOU WHAT.THE TEACHING THAT COMES
  • 00:54:19.539 --> 00:54:20.207
  • THE TEACHING THAT COMESOUT OF THIS MAN IS AMAZING.
  • 00:54:20.207 --> 00:54:24.244
  • OUT OF THIS MAN IS AMAZING.I LOVE TO LISTEN TO YOU.
  • 00:54:24.244 --> 00:54:25.746
  • I LOVE TO LISTEN TO YOU.HIS PODCAST, IT'S--
  • 00:54:25.746 --> 00:54:26.613
  • HIS PODCAST, IT'S--I MEAN, YOU'RE THE ONLY
  • 00:54:26.613 --> 00:54:27.648
  • I MEAN, YOU'RE THE ONLYSUBSCRIPTION I HAVE.
  • 00:54:27.648 --> 00:54:28.248
  • SUBSCRIPTION I HAVE.- JON: THAT'S VERY KIND
  • 00:54:28.248 --> 00:54:28.582
  • - JON: THAT'S VERY KINDOF YOU.
  • 00:54:28.582 --> 00:54:29.149
  • OF YOU.- LAURIE: I ACTUALLY
  • 00:54:29.149 --> 00:54:30.651
  • AND I LISTEN TO EVERY TIME
  • 00:54:31.852 --> 00:54:32.953
  • AND I LISTEN TO EVERY TIMEYOU SPEAK.
  • 00:54:32.953 --> 00:54:33.553
  • YOU SPEAK.- JON: WELL, THANK YOU.
  • 00:54:33.553 --> 00:54:34.087
  • - JON: WELL, THANK YOU.- MATT: ONE OF THE
  • 00:54:34.087 --> 00:54:34.955
  • - MATT: ONE OF THEAMAZING THINGS-- THERE'S A
  • 00:54:34.955 --> 00:54:35.522
  • AMAZING THINGS-- THERE'S ANUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:54:35.522 --> 00:54:38.358
  • NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.THERE ARE PRAYER PARTNERS
  • 00:54:38.358 --> 00:54:39.660
  • THERE ARE PRAYER PARTNERSTHAT ARE RIGHT THERE,
  • 00:54:39.660 --> 00:54:41.528
  • THAT ARE RIGHT THERE,AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:54:41.528 --> 00:54:43.397
  • AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.THERE'S THE TELEPHONE NUMBER.
  • 00:54:43.397 --> 00:54:45.232
  • THERE'S THE TELEPHONE NUMBER.- MATT: IF YOU WANT MORE
  • 00:54:45.232 --> 00:54:45.932
  • - MATT: IF YOU WANT MOREABOUT-- IF YOU WANNA TALK
  • 00:54:45.932 --> 00:54:48.302
  • ABOUT-- IF YOU WANNA TALKTO SOMEBODY ABOUT WHAT
  • 00:54:48.302 --> 00:54:49.236
  • TO SOMEBODY ABOUT WHATWE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,
  • 00:54:49.236 --> 00:54:50.037
  • WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS,
  • 00:54:50.037 --> 00:54:52.072
  • YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS,WE TAKE ABOUT A MILLION
  • 00:54:52.072 --> 00:54:54.508
  • WE TAKE ABOUT A MILLIONAND A HALF CALLS A YEAR,
  • 00:54:54.508 --> 00:54:55.442
  • AND A HALF CALLS A YEAR,THAT TELEPHONE NUMBER
  • 00:54:55.442 --> 00:54:56.977
  • THAT TELEPHONE NUMBERTHAT'S ON THE SCREEN THERE.
  • 00:54:56.977 --> 00:54:57.544
  • THAT'S ON THE SCREEN THERE.- LAURIE: AND WE'RE
  • 00:54:57.544 --> 00:54:58.245
  • - LAURIE: AND WE'REWAITIN' FOR YOU.
  • 00:54:58.245 --> 00:54:59.279
  • WAITIN' FOR YOU.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:54:59.279 --> 00:54:59.880
  • [LAUGHTER]- MATT: SO, JON TYSON,
  • 00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:01.748
  • - MATT: SO, JON TYSON,THANK YOU.
  • 00:55:01.748 --> 00:55:02.382
  • THANK YOU.- JON: THANK YOU, MATE.
  • 00:55:02.382 --> 00:55:02.783
  • - JON: THANK YOU, MATE.THANK YOU.
  • 00:55:02.783 --> 00:55:03.817
  • THANK YOU.THIS WAS A JOY.
  • 00:55:03.817 --> 00:55:04.451
  • THIS WAS A JOY.THANKS FOR HAVIN' ME ON,
  • 00:55:04.451 --> 00:55:04.851
  • THANKS FOR HAVIN' ME ON,YEAH.
  • 00:55:04.851 --> 00:55:05.485
  • YEAH.- MATT: WE'LL SEE YA NEXT
  • 00:55:05.485 --> 00:55:06.053
  • - MATT: WE'LL SEE YA NEXTTIME.
  • 00:55:06.053 --> 00:55:06.553
  • TIME.- JON: OKAY.
  • 00:55:06.553 --> 00:55:08.388