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Praise | July 6, 2017

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July 6, 2017

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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Dr. David Jeremiah.

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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: COMING UP
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ON "PRAISE"...
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- DR. DAVID JEREMIAH: THERE'S A
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PLACE GOD'S PREPARED FOR YOU,
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AND HE WANTS YOU TO COME THERE.
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HE LOVES YOU, AND HE WANTS TO
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BRING YOU TO HIMSELF, BUT HE
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WILL NOT BRING INTO THAT CITY
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THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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THEIR OWN SIN AND ACCEPT THE
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PENALTY THAT JESUS PAID FOR ON
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- ANNOUNCER: YOUR HEAVENLY
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HOME, WITH DAVID JEREMIAH,
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FOUNDER AND CEO OF TURNING
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POINT MINISTRIES, NEXT ON
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- MATT CROUCH: WE WELCOME YOU
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TODAY TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
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THE "PRAISE" PROGRAM IS COMING
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TO YOU RIGHT HERE WITH
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DR. DAVID JEREMIAH, OUR GUEST,
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OKAY, HEAVEN IS FOR REAL.
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HEAVEN IS OUR FUTURE HOME.
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THIS PROJECT, "REVEALING THE
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MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN," WHY THIS
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- DR. DAVID JEREMIAH: WELL, YOU
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KNOW, MOST PEOPLE, MATT, SPEND
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MORE TIME PLANNING A 2-WEEK
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SUMMER VACATION THAN THEY DO,
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LOOKING INTO THE PLACE WHERE
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THEY'RE GONNA SPEND ETERNITY.
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- DAVID: SO HEAVEN IS A MYSTERY
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TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT
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AS "THE BEAUTIFUL ISLE OF
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SOMEWHERE."
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WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS
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HEAVEN IS A PLACE.
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GOD'S SON, JESUS CHRIST, SAID,
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"I'M GOING TO PREPARE A PLACE
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FOR YOU."
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HEAVEN IS AS MUCH A PLACE AS
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THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE SEATED
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TODAY, BUT THE BIBLE HAS
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A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT, AND THERE
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DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF
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TEACHING AND PREACHING ON IT
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ANYMORE.
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IN FACT, I REMEMBER, GROWING UP,
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IT SEEMED LIKE ALMOST EVERY
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OTHER SONG WE SANG IN CHURCH WAS
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ABOUT HEAVEN.
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Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT?
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- MATT: RIGHT, RIGHT.
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[SINGING A CAPPELLA]
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- LAURIE CROUCH: I'M GOING O
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HEAVEN...
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- DAVID: YES, AND WHEN WE ALL
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GET TO HEAVEN, YOU KNOW, ALL
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THOSE SONGS-- AND THEY SEEM TO
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HAVE BEEN SLIPPING OVER THE EDGE
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AND OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM OF
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CHRISTIAN WORSHIP.
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- LAURIE: YEAH.
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- DAVID: THE ONLY GROUP THAT
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KEEPS SINGIN' ABOUT HEAVEN IS
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SOUTHERN GOSPEL.
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- MATT: GOT IT.
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- DAVID: SOUTHERN GOSPEL SINGS
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ABOUT HEAVEN ALL THE TIME.
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BUT I LOVE THIS SUBJECT.
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FIRST OF ALL, BOTH OF MY PARENTS
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ARE ALREADY THERE.
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- LAURIE: YES.
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- DAVID: AND I REMEMBER MY DAD
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TELLING ME TOWARD THE END OF HIS
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LIFE, HE SAID, "DAVID, ONE OF
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THE HARDEST THINGS ABOUT GETTIN'
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OLD IS YOU HAVE MORE FRIENDS IN
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HEAVEN THAN YOU HAVE ON EARTH."
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- MATT: RIGHT.
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- DAVID: AND THAT'S TRUE.
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SO ALL OF US, WHOEVER WE MAY BE,
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WATCHING HERE IN THE STUDIO, WE
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HAVE AN INVESTMENT IN HEAVEN.
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THERE'S SOMETHIN' ABOUT HEAVEN
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THAT TOUCHES US, AND I WROTE
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THIS BOOK TO ANSWER SOME OF THE
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QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD OVER
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THE YEARS ABOUT THIS PLACE WHERE
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WE'RE GONNA SPEND ETERNITY.
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- LAURIE: YOU KNOW, I WAS
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TELLIN' MATT, OUR PARENTS AND
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OUR GRANDPARENTS TALKED ABOUT
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HEAVEN SO MUCH, AND I THINK IT'S
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BEEN LOST EVEN ON-- WE DON'T
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TALK ABOUT IT AS MUCH ANYMORE.
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LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.
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- DAVID: RIGHT.
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- LAURIE: WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S
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BEEN LOST ON US?
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- DAVID: YOU KNOW WHAT, LAURIE?
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I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TOO
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BUSY MAKIN' HEAVEN ON EARTH TO
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THINK ABOUT HEAVEN WHERE IT'S
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GONNA BE, YOU KNOW?
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THEY'RE ALL TRYIN' TO GET ALL
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THE GOOD STUFF AND ALL THE
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TRINKETS AND ALL THE TOYS AND
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I MEAN, IF YOU'RE WORKIN' ON A
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MANSION DOWN HERE, THE MANSION
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UP THERE IS NOT MUCH TO TALK
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ABOUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE
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BIBLE.
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SO HERE'S THE DEAL--
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YOU SAID-- LAURIE, YOU SAID
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SOMETHIN' TO ME BACKSTAGE THAT
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I'VE HEARD IT IN A LITTLE
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DIFFERENT PHRASE, AND HERE IT
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IS: ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM ARE
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EITHER GOING TOWARD OUR REWARD
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OR AWAY FROM IT.
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IF OUR REWARD IS WHAT WE HAVE
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HERE ON THIS EARTH, EVERY DAY
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THAT WE LIVE, WE'RE GONNA GET
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FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM
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OUR REWARD, BUT IF WE KNOW ABOUT
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HEAVEN, EVERY DAY THAT WE LIVE,
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HEAVEN IS CLOSER AND CLOSER.
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I'M GOIN' TOWARD MY REWARD, AND
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I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE
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HERE ARE DOIN' THAT TOO.
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[APPLAUSE]
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- MATT: NICE.
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WE ARE IN THE MONTH OF JULY
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2017, AND DR. JEREMIAH IS WITH
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US.
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OUR MONTHLY GIFT THIS MONTH,
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"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
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HEAVEN," WITH DR. JEREMIAH.
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WE'VE GOT AN 800 NUMBER THAT'S
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ON THE SCREEN, AVAILABLE FOR
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YOU.
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CALL NOW.
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THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE, AND
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT "REVEALING
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THE MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN."
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WE DID A LITTLE "MAN ON
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THE STREET" THING.
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LET'S SEE WHAT SOME PEOPLE
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OUTSIDE OF THE STUDIO ARE
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TALKING ABOUT AND ANSWERING
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QUESTIONS ABOUT HEAVEN.
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[MUSIC]
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- FEMALE: WHEN I THINK OF THE
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AFTERLIFE, I MEAN, MY FIRST
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AND, I MEAN,
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HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHERE WE ALL
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END UP.
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- MALE: I WOULD HOPE THERE'S AN
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AFTERLIFE.
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I WOULD HOPE THAT.
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I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IN
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IT RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE ONE DAY
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I WILL.
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I DON'T KNOW.
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- FEMALE: "IS THERE A HEAVEN?"
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IS MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION,
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OBVIOUSLY.
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- FEMALE: WELL, I ACTUALLY
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THINK THAT HEAVEN IS RIGHT HERE
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ON EARTH, AS WELL AS HELL.
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- MALE: IF THERE IS SOMETHING
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OUT THERE, HOPEFULLY IT'S GOOD,
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BUT I TRY NOT TO, LIKE, THINK
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TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
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- FEMALE: I READ THE BIBLE.
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I TRUST GOD, AND I KNOW THAT,
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WHEN I DIE FROM THIS LIFE, I'LL
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IMMEDIATELY TRANSITION INTO HIS
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- FEMALE: WELL, LIKE, I THINK
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WILL SHE BE LIKE THE GRANDMA I
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KNEW WHEN SHE WAS ON HER
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DEATHBED, OR WILL SHE BE LIKE
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YOUNG, SPUNKY GRANDMA?
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- MALE: I MEAN, WHAT IS THERE
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TO DO, YOU KNOW?
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- MALE: WILL I SEE FAMILY
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MEMBERS THAT I'VE LOST IN THE
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- FEMALE: I GUESS MY VERSION OF
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HEAVEN IS LIKE PLANTS
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- FEMALE: I GUESS THE MOST
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BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT YOU CAN
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THINK OF ON EARTH.
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- FEMALE: IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE
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PICTURES THAT YOU SEE ON TV,
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JUST, KIND OF, ASCENDING ON HIS
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CLOUD AND ALL BRIGHT.
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- MALE: IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE
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DAFFY DUCK OR BULLWINKLE THE
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MOOSE.
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I DON'T KNOW.
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- MALE: WE GOT A BIG OLE
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MANSION, RENT-FREE.
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- MALE: WELL, IT AIN'T GONNA
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LOOK LIKE NEW YORK, I'LL TELL
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- MALE: I THINK OF NO DEBT, NO
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- FEMALE: I JUST EXPECT IT TO
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BE VERY PERFECT, LIKE YOU DON'T
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HAVE TO PREPARE YOUR MEALS.
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YOUR MEALS COME TO YOU, AND YOU
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DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR ROOM.
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YOUR ROOM CLEANS ITSELF.
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- MALE: EVERYBODY IN HEAVEN
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LOOK ALIKE.
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THERE'S NO BLACK, WHITE,
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MEXICAN.
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WE'RE ALL THE SAME.
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- FEMALE: I WANT TO EXPERIENCE
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THE FULLNESS OF GOD 'CAUSE I
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YEARN FOR IT.
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I'M SO GLAD YOU STOPPED!
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[LAUGHTER]
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OH, GOD!
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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- DAVID: THAT WAS GREAT!
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- LAURIE: THAT'S GOOD!
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- MATT: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
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"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
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HEAVEN."
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DR. JEREMIAH, THANK YOU
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FOR WRITING THIS BOOK.
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THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF OUR
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MOST HIGHLY VIEWED ON TRINITY
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BROADCASTING OUT OF ALL OF THE
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PROGRAMS.
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EVERYONE LOVES DR. DAVID
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JEREMIAH.
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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AND WE CAN PROVE THAT OVER
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AND OVER AND OVER.
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ONE OF THE LAST TIMES WE WERE
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TOGETHER, ONE OF THE BOOKS THAT
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YOU HAD JUST WRITTEN AND THAT WE
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WERE DISCUSSING ON THAT
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BROADCAST, HAD JUST GONE AND WAS
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A NUMBER ONE "NEW YORK TIMES"
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IF YOU CAN, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF
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THE TITLE?
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- DAVID: "IS THIS THE END?"
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- MATT: "IS THIS THE END?"
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RIGHT.
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- LAURIE: YES, IT IS, AND WE'RE
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GOIN' TO HEAVEN.
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- MATT: YEAH!
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[LAUGHTER]
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- LAURIE: HOW'S THAT?
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SO GET READY!
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- MATT: GOOD TRANSITION!
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[LAUGHTER]
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OKAY, SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE
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WATCHING, WE SOMEWHAT WANT TO
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ASSUME THAT EVERYONE, KIND
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OF, UNDERSTANDS THE CONCEPT
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THAT THERE IS A-- "IN THE
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BEGINNING, GOD CREATED THE
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HEAVENS AND THE EARTH," AND
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THAT, WHEN YOU DIE, YOU
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TRANSITION, BUT FOR THOSE SOME
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THAT COULD BE TUNING IN AND
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CHECKING OUT THE CHRISTIAN
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CHANNEL, TRINITY BROADCASTING,
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"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
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HEAVEN," WHAT IS THIS TRANSITION
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PERIOD?
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'CAUSE SOME COULD BE CONFUSED BY
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DEATH AND BURIAL AND-- OKAY,
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START THERE.
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- DAVID: I HAD A YOUNG GIRL
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COME TO ME ONE TIME AFTER A
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SERMON, AND SHE WAS REAL
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SERIOUS, AND I LOVED IT 'CAUSE
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IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION.
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SHE SAID, "PASTOR, I'M ALL
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CONFUSED 'CAUSE I HEAR YOU
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TALKIN' ABOUT US GOIN' TO
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HEAVEN, BUT THEN I GO TO
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FUNERALS, AND THEY TELL ME THE
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BODY'S GOIN' IN THE GROUND.
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NOW, WHICH IS IT: ARE WE GOIN'
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TO HEAVEN, OR ARE WE GOIN' IN
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THE GROUND?"
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BUT, REALLY, NOT BOTH
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BECAUSE THE BIBLE TEACHES
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THAT OUR BODIES ARE JUST
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THE HOUSE IN WHICH WE LIVE.
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WHEN WE DIE, THE BIBLE SAYS
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WE'RE "ABSENT FROM THE BODY AND
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PRESENT WITH THE LORD."
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SO WHEN A PERSON DIES,
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HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS:
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HIS SOUL AND SPIRIT GO TO BE
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WITH JESUS.
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AND SO IT'S TRUE THAT, WHEN A
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PERSON DIES, THEIR BODY GOES IN
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THE GROUND, BUT IN A CHRISTIAN
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FUNERAL, IF YOU'RE A PASTOR--
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AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PASTORS WHO
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WATCH TBN-- YOU ALL KNOW THAT,
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WHEN YOU DO A SERVICE FOR A
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CHRISTIAN PERSON, THERE'S THIS
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SENSE THAT THAT PERSON ISN'T
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THERE.
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THEIR BODY MIGHT BE THERE, BUT
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THEY'RE NOT THERE.
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THEY'RE IN HEAVEN, AND SO THAT'S
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THE DIFFERENCE.
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HEAVEN IS THE PLACE WHERE WE GO,
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REALLY, THE REAL "US," OUR SOUL
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AND OUR SPIRIT, BUT WE PUT OUR
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BODY-- AND THEN, ONE DAY, GOD
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ISN'T GONNA FORGET ABOUT THE
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BODY.
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ONE DAY, THE RAPTURE'S GONNA
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COME, AND HE'S GONNA GET OUR
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BODIES OUT OF THE GRAVE AND TAKE
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US UP TO HEAVEN, REUNITE OUR
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BODIES WITH OUR SOUL AND SPIRIT,
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AND THE BIBLE SAYS, "AND SO
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SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD."
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ISN'T THAT GREAT?
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- MATT: BEAUTIFUL!
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[APPLAUSE]
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THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH
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UNIVERSALISM.
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THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT
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EVERYBODY GETS TO GO TO HEAVEN.
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THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO HEAVEN ARE
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THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST
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IN JESUS CHRIST.
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THAT'S NOT MY WORD.
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THAT'S NOT YOUR WORD.
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IT'S THE BIBLE'S WORD.
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- MATT: REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS
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WITH THE JACK CHICK TRACTS
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THOUGH?
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REMEMBER, THE SECULAR PERSON OR
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THE UNBELIEVER GOES BEFORE GOD
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AND THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
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JUDGMENT, AND THEN THEY ARE
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ACTUALLY DESCENDED TO HELL AT
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THAT POINT?
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DOESN'T EVERYONE GO TO BE
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JUDGED, AND THEN GO TO HELL?
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- DAVID: NO.
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- MATT: NO?
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- DAVID: THERE'S TWO JUDGMENTS.
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- MATT: OKAY.
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- DAVID: THERE'S THE JUDGMENT
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SEAT OF CHRIST.
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THAT TAKES PLACE RIGHT AFTER
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BELIEVERS GET TO HEAVEN, AND
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IT'S NOT A JUDGMENT FOR EVIL.
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IT'S A JUDGMENT FOR THE WORKS
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DONE IN THE FLESH.
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IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S LIKE
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STANDING BEFORE THE JUDGE AT THE
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END OF AN OLYMPIC RACE SO YOU
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GET YOUR REWARDS FOR WHAT YOU'VE
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DONE ON THIS EARTH.
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NO BELIEVER WILL EVER STAND
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BEFORE ANY JUDGMENT THAN THAT
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ONE.
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AT THE END OF THE MILLENNIUM,
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THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT,
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THAT'S ONE YOU DON'T WANNA BE IN
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FRONT OF BECAUSE NOBODY THAT
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GOES TO THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
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JUDGMENT WILL EVER GET TO
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HEAVEN.
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THAT'S ONLY FOR THE UNBELIEVERS.
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SO THE WAY YOU THINK ABOUT IT IS
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THIS: THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF
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CHRIST IS ONLY FOR BELIEVERS,
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AND THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
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JUDGMENT IS ONLY FOR
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UNBELIEVERS.
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IF YOU'RE AT THE GREAT WHITE
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THRONE JUDGMENT, YOU IN A HEAP
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OF TROUBLE.
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- MATT: OKAY, SO IF YOU'RE AN
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UNBELIEVER AND YOU DIE NOW, YOU
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DON'T GO TO ANY CURRENT
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JUDGMENT?
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YOU JUST GO DIRECTLY TO HELL?
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- DAVID: WELL, THE BIBLE
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TEACHES THAT THERE IS A PLACE
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CALLED SHEOL, AND SHEOL IS A
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SPLIT PLACE.
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HALF OF IT IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE
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UNBELIEVERS, AND THE OTHER HALF
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IS PARADISE.
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REMEMBER WHEN THE THIEF ON THE
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CROSS RECEIVED THE LORD?
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THE LORD SAID, "TODAY YOU SHALL
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BE WITH ME IN PARADISE."
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AND THEN THE BIBLE TEACHES
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THAT, WHEN JESUS CAME OUT
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OF THE GRAVE,
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HE TOOK CAPTIVE THOSE WHO
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WERE IN PARADISE, AND THEY'RE
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NOW WITH HIM IN HEAVEN.
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SO THE POINT IS, IF YOU DON'T
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ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST IN THIS
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LIFETIME, THERE'S NO SECOND
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CHANCE.
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- LAURIE: RIGHT.
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- DAVID: YOU DON'T GET A
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DO-OVER.
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- MATT: RIGHT.
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- DAVID: GOD DOESN'T HAVE A
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PLAN B.
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HE'S GOT ONE PLAN.
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IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PLAN.
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HE'S WILLING TO TAKE ANYBODY TO
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HEAVEN, NO MATTER WHAT WE'VE
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DONE, NO MATTER HOW FAR WE MAY
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FEEL WE'RE AWAY FROM GOD, BUT IF
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YOU MISS THAT PLAN, MATT, THE
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SAD NEWS IS, IF YOU MISS THAT
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PLAN, THERE IS NO OTHER PLAN.
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THERE'S NO SECOND WAY TO GO TO
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HEAVEN.
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- MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
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THAT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO
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RIGHT HERE WITH TRINITY
00:11:36.180 --> 00:11:37.140
BROADCASTING.
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- DAVID: AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
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I LIKE TO SAY THIS TO THE PEOPLE
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THAT ASK ME ABOUT THIS NETWORK:
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TRINITY BROADCAST GIVES WINGS TO
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THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION.
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YOU TAKE IT WHERE IT COULD NEVER
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GO WITHOUT YOU, AND THERE ARE
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GONNA BE SO MANY PEOPLE IN
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HEAVEN BECAUSE OF WHAT THIS
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NETWORK DOES, AND I'M GONNA BE
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VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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- MATT: WHILE WE'RE ON THAT
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AND SOMEBODY IS HEARING ABOUT
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"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
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HEAVEN," INVITE PEOPLE TO GO TO
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HEAVEN WITH US.
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WHY NOT JUST-- LET'S NOT TALK
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ABOUT HEAVEN WITHOUT GIVIN' AN
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OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH US.
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- DAVID: ABSOLUTELY.
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PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT MY JOB IS.
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MY JOB IS TO GO TO HEAVEN AND
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TAKE AS MANY PEOPLE WITH ME AS I
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- MATT: THERE THEY ARE, RIGHT
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THERE.
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- DAVID: AND I WOULD JUST SAY
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TO YOU THAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW
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FOR SURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO TO
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HEAVEN, THEN YOU CAN BE SURE
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ABOUT THAT TODAY.
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YOU CAN ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS
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YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR.
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YOU CAN ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOU
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FOR YOUR SIN, AND ACKNOWLEDGE
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THAT YOU'RE A SINNER.
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AND HE PROMISES THAT, IF YOU
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WILL RECEIVE HIM AS YOUR OWN
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PERSONAL SAVIOR, THE GIFT OF GOD
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IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS
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CHRIST OUR LORD.
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YOU CAN GO TO HEAVEN.
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- MATT: IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
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PRAY THAT SIMPLE PRAYER, HOW DO
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THEY DO THAT?
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- DAVID: HERE'S WHAT I LIKE TO
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DO.
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I LIKE TO PRAY WITH PEOPLE
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OFTENTIMES AT THE END OF OUR
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SERVICES, AND I JUST SAY, "PRAY
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THIS PRAYER WITH ME: 'DEAR GOD,
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I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M A SINNER.
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I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I CANNOT GET
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TO HEAVEN ON MY OWN.
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I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I NEED YOU,
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GOD, AND I THANK YOU FOR JESUS
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CHRIST.
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HE'S THE ONE WHO CAME TO PAY FOR
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ALL MY SIN.
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LORD, JESUS, I RECEIVE YOU
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TODAY.
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I ACCEPT YOU AS MY PERSONAL
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SAVIOR.
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COME INTO MY HEART AND GIVE ME
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THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE WHICH
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YOU PROMISED.
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THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY
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PRAYER.'"
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- MATT: AND BECAUSE OF FAITH IN
00:13:25.150 --> 00:13:28.150
THAT PRAYER, PEOPLE GET TO GO TO
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HEAVEN WITH THAT?
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- DAVID: ABSOLUTELY.
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THAT'S IT.
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IT'S NOT BY WORKS OF
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RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE
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DONE, BUT BY GOD'S GRACE.
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HEAVEN IS A GIFT, BUT IT'S LIKE
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ANY OTHER GIFT.
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YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE IT.
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YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT YOUR HAND
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AND TAKE IT.
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- LAURIE: AND IT'S FOR
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EVERYONE.
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- DAVID: AMEN!
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- MATT: WOW!
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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THAT'S WHAT I CALL REVEALING
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THE MYSTERY OF HEAVEN,
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THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT TBN AND
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MINISTRIES LIKE TURNING POINT--
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BY THE WAY, I WANNA JUST, KIND
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OF, BRAG ON YOU JUST FOR A
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SECOND.
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FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE VERY
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HANDSOME HAIR, OKAY?
00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:03.110
- DAVID: YOU'RE ALWAYS TALKIN'
00:14:03.110 --> 00:14:04.030
ABOUT MY HAIR!
00:14:04.030 --> 00:14:05.040
I WISH YOU'D GET OFF MY HAIR!
00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:05.250
[LAUGHTER]
00:14:05.250 --> 00:14:06.170
- MATT: NO, YOUR HAIR IS VERY
00:14:06.170 --> 00:14:07.080
HANDSOME!
00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:07.230
SECONDLY, DR. JEREMIAH IS ADDING
00:14:07.230 --> 00:14:09.030
ANOTHER RUN TO TRINITY
00:14:10.040 --> 00:14:13.040
BROADCASTING AND IS JOINING US
00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:15.010
ON SATURDAYS AT 4 P.M., EASTERN
00:14:16.040 --> 00:14:19.040
TIME, OKAY, SO 1 P.M.
00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.120
ON THE WEST COAST, 4 P.M.,
00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.020
EASTERN TIME, AND SO
00:14:25.020 --> 00:14:25.270
DR. JEREMIAH IS ON TRINITY
00:14:25.270 --> 00:14:28.010
BROADCASTING AND HIGHLY RATED.
00:14:29.060 --> 00:14:32.060
PEOPLE LOVE YOUR MESSAGE.
00:14:32.060 --> 00:14:32.250
KEEP DOIN' WHAT YOU'RE DOING,
00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:33.160
AND KEEP REVEALING THE MYSTERIES
00:14:33.160 --> 00:14:34.080
- LAURIE: OKAY, SO A LOT OF
00:14:38.020 --> 00:14:38.220
PEOPLE THINK THAT,
00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:39.070
IF YOU ASK WHERE THEY'RE GONNA
00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:41.110
GO, THEY'LL SAY, "WELL, IF ALL
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MY FRIENDS ARE GOIN' TO HELL, I
00:14:42.280 --> 00:14:43.200
WANNA GO TO HELL TO BE WITH ALL
00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:44.260
MY FRIENDS."
00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:46.240
- MATT: HEAVEN MIGHT BE BORING
00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:47.250
OR SOMETHING.
00:14:47.250 --> 00:14:49.140
- LAURIE: HEAVEN MIGHT BE
00:14:49.140 --> 00:14:50.140
BORING.
00:14:50.140 --> 00:14:51.000
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:51.280
- DAVID: WELL, I TELL YA, THE
00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:52.240
FIRST MINUTE THEY'RE IN HELL,
00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:53.190
THEY'LL KNOW WHAT A STUPID THING
00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:54.110
THAT IS TO SAY.
00:14:54.110 --> 00:14:54.270
- MATT: YEAH, OKAY.
00:14:54.270 --> 00:14:55.250
[LAUGHTER]
00:14:55.250 --> 00:14:56.130
- DAVID: FIRST OF ALL, HELL IS,
00:14:56.130 --> 00:14:57.110
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS, YOU
00:14:57.110 --> 00:14:59.050
KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE IT IS, IT'S
00:14:59.050 --> 00:15:00.290
A PLACE OF ISOLATION.
00:15:00.290 --> 00:15:03.020
IT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE IS
00:15:03.070 --> 00:15:06.070
INTENSE LONELINESS, WHERE THERE
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WILL NOT BE RELATIONSHIPS.
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HELL IS THE ABSENCE OF
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RELATIONSHIPS.
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PEOPLE WILL SPEND ETERNITY IN
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HELL ALONE.
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THERE WON'T BE ANY PARTIES DOWN
00:15:17.030 --> 00:15:17.260
THERE.
00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:18.150
THERE WON'T BE ANY, YOU KNOW,
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ALL THE THINGS THESE PEOPLE TALK
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ABOUT.
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BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE,
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LAURIE, 'CAUSE YOU ASKED THE
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QUESTION, IS THAT EVERYBODY'S
00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.280
TALKIN' ABOUT HOW BORING
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HEAVEN'S GONNA BE, AND I WANNA
00:15:28.260 --> 00:15:30.100
TELL YOU WHY HEAVEN'S NOT GONNA
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BE BORING.
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FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE GOD IS NOT
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BORING.
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- MATT: GOT IT!
00:15:35.280 --> 00:15:36.140
- DAVID: I MEAN, AMEN?
00:15:36.140 --> 00:15:37.150
[APPLAUSE]
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- LAURIE: RIGHT, THE CREATOR OF
00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.100
THE UNIVERSE!
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- DAVID: RIGHT.
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I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHIN' REALLY,
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REALLY CONTROVERSIAL HERE.
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GOD CREATED FUN!
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[LAUGHTER]
00:15:45.250 --> 00:15:46.230
HE DID!
00:15:46.230 --> 00:15:47.110
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE GREATEST
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PLEASURE IN MARRIAGE?
00:15:49.040 --> 00:15:52.040
GOD CREATED THAT, YOU KNOW?
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- LAURIE: I KNEW YOU WERE
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THINKIN' ABOUT THAT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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- MATT: YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T SAY
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IT.
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I WASN'T GONNA SAY IT.
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- DAVID: WELL, I WAS GONNA LET
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HIM SAY IT.
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- MATT: YEAH, OKAY.
00:16:01.070 --> 00:16:01.230
- DAVID: SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS
00:16:01.230 --> 00:16:02.290
THIS: IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO
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GOD'S HEAVEN AND BE WITH GOD,
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YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET USED TO
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NOT BEING BORED 'CAUSE GOD IS
00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:07.160
NOT BORING.
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SECONDLY, WHEN YOU GET TO
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HEAVEN, YOU WON'T BE BORING
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BECAUSE GOD'S GONNA MAKE YOU
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OVER BEFORE YOU GET THERE.
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I MEAN, YOU MIGHT BE THE MOST
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BORING PERSON ON EARTH, AND GOD
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MIGHT HAVE A BIG JOB TO GET YOU
00:16:20.010 --> 00:16:21.250
STRAIGHTENED OUT, BUT BETWEEN
00:16:21.250 --> 00:16:23.120
EARTH AND HEAVEN, HE'S GONNA FIX
00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.290
YOU SO YOU WILL NEVER BE BORING
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AGAIN.
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- MATT: WOW!
00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:29.170
- DAVID: NOW, HERE'S THE THIRD
00:16:29.170 --> 00:16:30.090
REASON...
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[APPLAUSE]
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YES, SO, IF GOD'S GONNA FIX
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YOU SO YOU WON'T BE BORING,
00:16:36.050 --> 00:16:37.020
HE'S GONNA DO THAT WITH
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EVERYBODY ELSE, SO WHEN YOU GET
00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:39.190
TO HEAVEN, THERE WON'T BE ANY
00:16:39.190 --> 00:16:40.100
BORING PEOPLE THERE, RIGHT?
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND HERE'S THE OTHER REASON THAT
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I HAVE IN THIS BOOK,
00:16:43.260 --> 00:16:45.100
IS THAT HEAVEN IS THE PLACE
00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:48.050
YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN LOOKING FOR.
00:16:48.050 --> 00:16:49.250
- MATT: WOW.
00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.000
- DAVID: YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE
00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:52.250
SAYS THAT, WHEN GOD CREATED US,
00:16:52.250 --> 00:16:54.260
HE PUT A VACUUM IN US THAT
00:16:54.260 --> 00:16:56.180
CANNOT BE FILLED BUT BY ANYTHING
00:16:56.180 --> 00:16:58.150
BUT GOD, AND THERE'S A LONGING
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IN OUR HEART FOR HEAVEN THAT WE
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DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE.
00:17:01.290 --> 00:17:03.030
WE'RE WAITING FOR THE
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REDEMPTION.
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THE REDEMPTION IS HEAVEN.
00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:07.050
SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS
00:17:07.050 --> 00:17:08.140
SO GREAT DOWN HERE-- LET'S BE
00:17:08.140 --> 00:17:10.080
HONEST.
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LET'S ALL BE HONEST ABOUT THIS.
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IT ALWAYS LEAVES YOU A LITTLE
00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:14.130
BIT SHORT, DOESN'T IT?
00:17:14.130 --> 00:17:15.100
YOU GET ALL THE WAY UP, AND YOU
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THINK IT'S GONNA BE SO COOL, AND
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IT IS COOL, BUT IT'S NOT AS COOL
00:17:17.210 --> 00:17:19.010
AS YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE
00:17:19.010 --> 00:17:20.190
OR THAT YOU WISH IT WOULD BE.
00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:21.290
WHEN YOU GET TO HEAVEN, MAN,
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IT'S ALL COOL, ALL THE WAY
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THROUGH.
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EVERYTHING YOU DESIRED WILL BE
00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:27.020
YOURS.
00:17:27.020 --> 00:17:28.000
- MATT: BEAUTIFUL!
00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:28.250
[APPLAUSE]
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WE ARE TALKING WITH
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DR. DAVID JEREMIAH.
00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.250
"TURNING POINT" HAS BEEN
00:17:33.250 --> 00:17:35.020
ON TBN, AND DR. JEREMIAH
00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:36.170
HAS BEEN ON-- HOW MANY YEARS
00:17:36.170 --> 00:17:38.160
DO YOU THINK IT'S BEEN NOW?
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- DAVID: I DON'T KNOW.
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I CAN'T--
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- MATT: IT'S DECADES.
00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:41.070
- DAVID: YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HERE
00:17:41.070 --> 00:17:41.290
FOR A LONG TIME, YEAH.
00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:42.250
- MATT: AND DR. JEREMIAH'S
00:17:42.250 --> 00:17:43.160
BROADCAST IS ON TBN.
00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.160
WE LOVE HIM.
00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.220
IF WE ARE INTRODUCING HIM TO YOU
00:17:46.220 --> 00:17:48.190
FOR SOME REASON, IF YOU'RE NEW
00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:51.220
TO CHRISTIAN TELEVISION, TAKE A
00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:52.150
LOOK AT THIS LITTLE BIO PIECE.
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GET TO KNOW DR. JEREMIAH A
00:17:54.030 --> 00:17:55.220
LITTLE BIT BETTER.
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- FEMALE NARRATOR: PASTOR...
00:17:59.070 --> 00:18:00.030
- DAVID: THE REASON GOD GIVES
00:18:00.030 --> 00:18:00.240
US HEALTH AND LIFE AND ENERGY AS
00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.110
HIS PEOPLE IS SO THAT WE CAN BE
00:18:02.110 --> 00:18:03.040
HIS DIVINE AMBASSADORS.
00:18:03.040 --> 00:18:05.210
- NARRATOR: TEACHER...
00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:06.260
- DAVID: AND YOU PUT YOUR TRUST
00:18:06.260 --> 00:18:08.140
IN JESUS CHRIST AND IN HIM
00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:09.190
ALONE, PLUS OR MINUS NOTHING.
00:18:09.190 --> 00:18:11.280
- NARRATOR: BEST-SELLING
00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:13.200
AUTHOR, DR. DAVID JEREMIAH'S
00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.050
MESSAGES HAVE BEEN A BEACON OF
00:18:15.050 --> 00:18:16.170
LIGHT TO AUDIENCES WORLDWIDE.
00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:18.140
AS FOUNDER AND CEO OF TURNING
00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:20.240
POINT MINISTRIES, HIS TELEVISION
00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.100
AND RADIO PROGRAMS HAVE GAINED
00:18:22.100 --> 00:18:24.030
INTERNATIONAL ACCLAIM.
00:18:24.030 --> 00:18:25.140
HE'S AUTHORED MORE THAN 70
00:18:25.140 --> 00:18:28.120
BOOKS, INCLUDING, "AGENTS OF
00:18:28.120 --> 00:18:29.200
THE APOCALYPSE," "AGENTS OF
00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:30.280
BABYLON," "PEOPLE ARE
00:18:30.280 --> 00:18:32.240
ASKING...IS THIS THE END?"
00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:33.220
AND "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:34.280
HEAVEN."
00:18:34.280 --> 00:18:36.220
DR. JEREMIAH IS SENIOR PASTOR
00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:38.040
OF SHADOW MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY
00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:40.020
CHURCH IN EL CAJON, CALIFORNIA.
00:18:40.020 --> 00:18:42.110
HIS COMMITMENT TO TRUTH AND HIS
00:18:42.110 --> 00:18:44.160
ABILITY TO APPLY BIBLICAL
00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.000
PRINCIPLES TO EVERYDAY LIVING
00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:47.050
HAS MADE HIM A HIGHLY
00:18:47.050 --> 00:18:48.140
SOUGHT-AFTER SPEAKER.
00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:50.060
DR. DAVID JEREMIAH, HERE ON
00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:51.140
"PRAISE."
00:18:51.140 --> 00:18:54.020
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:18:54.020 --> 00:18:56.270
- MATT: WE ARE TALKIN' ABOUT
00:18:56.270 --> 00:18:57.180
HEAVEN.
00:18:57.180 --> 00:18:58.250
I JUST WANNA GET A BIG, GIANT
00:18:59.260 --> 00:19:02.280
WIDE SHOT OF THE AUDIENCE FOR
00:19:02.280 --> 00:19:04.090
ME, PAUL, AND LET ME JUST ASK A
00:19:04.090 --> 00:19:07.010
QUESTION TO THIS AUDIENCE, KIND
00:19:07.010 --> 00:19:08.270
OF A BIG, NICE, BIG WIDE SHOT
00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:10.150
AND...
00:19:10.150 --> 00:19:12.040
BIG WIDE SHOT, BIG...
00:19:12.040 --> 00:19:14.190
[LAUGHTER]
00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:15.070
THERE IT IS, GOOD.
00:19:15.070 --> 00:19:15.290
OKAY, HOW MANY WANNA GO TO
00:19:15.290 --> 00:19:16.180
HEAVEN?
00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:17.010
OKAY, ALL RIGHT, SO CAN YOU SHOW
00:19:17.010 --> 00:19:17.230
ME BOTH SIDES?
00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:18.200
IS THERE THAT BIG OF A SHOT?
00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.260
DO YOU HAVE THAT?
00:19:20.260 --> 00:19:23.150
'CAUSE I THINK EVEN PEOPLE ON
00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:25.110
THIS SIDE OF THE AUDIENCE WANNA
00:19:25.110 --> 00:19:26.170
GO TO HEAVEN TOO, YOU KNOW, I
00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:27.100
THINK!
00:19:27.100 --> 00:19:28.240
SO, ALL RIGHT, THERE YOU GO.
00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:30.100
IF YOU WANNA GO TO HEAVEN, STAND
00:19:30.100 --> 00:19:31.260
UP AND CHEER, RIGHT NOW, GO!
00:19:31.260 --> 00:19:34.190
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:19:35.010 --> 00:19:38.010
- AUDIENCE: WOO!
00:19:41.080 --> 00:19:44.080
- MATT: I LIKE IT!
00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:47.120
IS THERE...
00:19:47.120 --> 00:19:47.290
OKAY, QUIET AGAIN.
00:19:47.290 --> 00:19:48.140
IS THERE ANY LUNATIC THAT WANTS
00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:51.080
TO GO TO HELL?
00:19:51.080 --> 00:19:52.100
- AUDIENCE: NO.
00:19:52.100 --> 00:19:53.140
- MATT: NO?
00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:54.040
OKAY, SIT DOWN.
00:19:54.040 --> 00:19:54.210
LOVE IT.
00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:55.230
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:56.150
MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN.
00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:58.140
WE'RE HERE.
00:19:58.140 --> 00:20:00.000
WE WELCOME YOU WHEREVER YOU'RE
00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.230
WATCHING AROUND THE WORLD.
00:20:00.230 --> 00:20:02.040
OKAY, WHAT'S IT GONNA BE LIKE IN
00:20:06.020 --> 00:20:08.140
HEAVEN FOR OUR MATERIAL BODIES?
00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:11.110
WHAT'S THAT LIKE UP THERE?
00:20:11.110 --> 00:20:13.070
- DAVID: OKAY, LET ME ANSWER
00:20:13.070 --> 00:20:14.020
THAT QUESTION, BUT FIRST I HAVE
00:20:14.020 --> 00:20:15.050
TO TELL YOU THIS LITTLE STORY
00:20:15.050 --> 00:20:15.260
ABOUT PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN.
00:20:15.260 --> 00:20:16.260
- MATT: OKAY.
00:20:16.260 --> 00:20:18.050
- DAVID: THIS TEACHER WAS
00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:19.210
STANDIN' IN FRONT OF HER SUNDAY
00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:20.130
SCHOOL CLASS, AND SHE SAID, "HOW
00:20:20.130 --> 00:20:21.060
MANY OF YOU WANNA GO TO HEAVEN?"
00:20:21.060 --> 00:20:21.280
AND EVERYBODY RAISED THEIR HAND
00:20:21.280 --> 00:20:22.200
BUT A LITTLE BOY SITTIN' IN THE
00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.030
BACK ROW, AND SHE WENT BACK
00:20:25.030 --> 00:20:28.000
THERE, AND SHE SAID, "JIMMY,
00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:28.260
DON'T YOU WANNA GO TO HEAVEN
00:20:28.260 --> 00:20:29.200
WHEN YOU DIE?"
00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.090
"OH, YES," HE SAID, "WHEN I DIE,
00:20:31.090 --> 00:20:32.270
BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE GETTIN'
00:20:32.270 --> 00:20:34.030
UP A LOAD FOR TONIGHT!"
00:20:34.030 --> 00:20:35.150
[LAUGHTER]
00:20:35.150 --> 00:20:36.020
THAT'S THE WAY A LOT
00:20:36.020 --> 00:20:37.070
OF PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT HEAVEN.
00:20:37.070 --> 00:20:38.030
THEY WANNA GO TO HEAVEN WHEN
00:20:38.030 --> 00:20:39.020
THEY DIE, BUT THEY'RE OKAY IF
00:20:39.020 --> 00:20:40.250
IT'S A WAY OUT IN THE FUTURE,
00:20:40.250 --> 00:20:42.120
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIFE IS
00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:43.260
SOMETHING WE ENJOY.
00:20:43.260 --> 00:20:45.040
THEN THE BIBLE SPEAKS SO CLEARLY
00:20:49.030 --> 00:20:50.210
ABOUT HOW OUR TEARS WILL BE
00:20:50.210 --> 00:20:51.290
GONE, OUR PAIN WILL BE GONE.
00:20:51.290 --> 00:20:52.260
WE'LL BE DIFFERENT, AND HERE'S
00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:54.280
WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS.
00:20:54.280 --> 00:20:57.250
THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT, WHEN WE
00:20:57.250 --> 00:20:58.220
DIE, IF WE DIE BEFORE THE LORD
00:20:59.050 --> 00:21:02.070
COMES BACK, OUR BODIES GO IN THE
00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:03.060
GRAVE.
00:21:03.060 --> 00:21:04.100
WHEN THE RAPTURE COMES, OUR
00:21:04.100 --> 00:21:05.190
BODIES WILL BE RESURRECTED, AND
00:21:05.190 --> 00:21:07.110
WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE
00:21:08.110 --> 00:21:11.110
SAME KIND OF BODY THAT JESUS HAD
00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.160
WHEN HE CAME OUT OF THE GRAVE ON
00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.010
RESURRECTION SUNDAY.
00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:18.070
WE WILL HAVE BODIES LIKE HIS,
00:21:18.070 --> 00:21:20.290
AND THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE
00:21:20.290 --> 00:21:22.140
SCRIPTURE, TRANSFORMED INTO HIS
00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:23.060
BODY.
00:21:23.060 --> 00:21:24.060
THE SCRIPTURE SAYS WE WILL BE
00:21:24.060 --> 00:21:26.140
CHANGED.
00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:27.120
SO LISTEN TO ME: ALL OF THE
00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:28.230
BLEMISHES YOU HAVE, THOSE OF YOU
00:21:28.230 --> 00:21:31.190
WHO STRUGGLE WITH WEIGHT, THOSE
00:21:31.190 --> 00:21:34.060
OF YOU WHO HAVE ALL THESE
00:21:34.060 --> 00:21:34.250
PROBLEMS, ON THE WAY UP, IT'S
00:21:34.250 --> 00:21:36.130
ALL GONNA BE STRAIGHTENED OUT,
00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:37.250
AND YOU'RE GONNA ARRIVE IN
00:21:37.250 --> 00:21:39.070
HEAVEN, EVERYTHING PERFECT.
00:21:39.070 --> 00:21:41.140
[APPLAUSE]
00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:46.280
- MATT: YOU MENTIONED EARLIER
00:21:46.280 --> 00:21:47.220
IN THE BROADCAST, DR. JEREMIAH,
00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:49.200
THAT BOTH OF YOUR PARENTS ARE IN
00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:51.130
HEAVEN.
00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:52.150
BOTH OF MY PARENTS ARE IN
00:21:52.150 --> 00:21:53.120
HEAVEN, AND I REMEMBER WHEN MY
00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:55.230
MOM PASSED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I
00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.240
POSTED A SHOT OF MY MOM ON
00:22:00.020 --> 00:22:03.020
SOCIAL MEDIA WITH MY DAD, AND I
00:22:03.020 --> 00:22:05.190
THINK THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN ON
00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:07.210
EITHER-- KIND OF, LIKE A
00:22:07.210 --> 00:22:10.030
HONEYMOON PICTURE.
00:22:10.030 --> 00:22:12.180
I THINK IT WAS ON THEIR
00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:14.200
HONEYMOON, AND THEY WERE BOTH
00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:15.210
RADIANT AND SMILING, AND THEY
00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:17.140
DON'T HAVE ANY WRINKLES, AND,
00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:18.060
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BOTH REAL
00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:20.230
TRIM AND, YOU KNOW, AND I SAID
00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:23.020
SOMETHING LIKE, "THIS, I
00:22:23.080 --> 00:22:26.080
BELIEVE, IS WHAT MY PARENTS LOOK
00:22:26.080 --> 00:22:27.170
LIKE TODAY, NOW THAT THEY'RE
00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:29.100
TOGETHER IN HEAVEN.
00:22:29.100 --> 00:22:32.100
WHAT THEY MINISTERED ABOUT, WHAT
00:22:32.100 --> 00:22:34.280
THEY BUILT TRINITY TO TELL
00:22:34.280 --> 00:22:36.040
PEOPLE ABOUT, THEY'RE GETTING TO
00:22:36.040 --> 00:22:38.150
EXPERIENCE TOGETHER TODAY, AND I
00:22:38.150 --> 00:22:41.010
POSTED THAT, THIS RADIANT
00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:44.050
PICTURE OF MY MOM AND DAD.
00:22:44.050 --> 00:22:45.220
I REMEMBER DOING THAT.
00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:47.080
THE IDEA THOUGH THAT HEAVEN
00:22:47.080 --> 00:22:50.020
ISN'T GONNA BE BORING, THAT
00:22:50.020 --> 00:22:50.280
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, AS YOU
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DESCRIBE, A SUPER BODY, WHAT
00:22:52.060 --> 00:22:54.110
ELSE ABOUT HEAVEN?
00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:57.000
- LAURIE: DON'T YOU THINK WE'RE
00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.040
GONNA BE LEARNING ABOUT GOD FOR
00:22:58.040 --> 00:22:59.020
ETERNITY?
00:22:59.020 --> 00:22:59.220
- DAVID: WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS,
00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:01.200
"WE WILL KNOW, EVEN AS WE ARE
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:02.260
KNOWN."
00:23:02.260 --> 00:23:04.040
WE WILL COME TO KNOW HIM
00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:06.210
SOME OF MY FRIENDS SAY THAT,
00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:10.150
WHILE THERE WILL BE WORSHIP IN
00:23:10.150 --> 00:23:13.090
HEAVEN, MY MINISTER OF MUSIC IS
00:23:13.090 --> 00:23:14.260
GONNA HAVE A JOB, BUT SINCE
00:23:14.260 --> 00:23:17.150
EVERYBODY'S GONNA KNOW
00:23:17.150 --> 00:23:18.290
EVERYTHING WHEN THEY GET THERE,
00:23:18.290 --> 00:23:20.040
I'M UNEMPLOYED.
00:23:20.040 --> 00:23:21.120
[LAUGHTER]
00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:23.010
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
00:23:23.010 --> 00:23:24.060
I BELIEVE THERE'LL BE LEARNING
00:23:24.060 --> 00:23:24.270
GETTING TO KNOW THE LORD DEEPER,
00:23:27.050 --> 00:23:28.250
GETTING TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HIM.
00:23:28.250 --> 00:23:31.010
- LAURIE: WHAT ABOUT BABIES?
00:23:31.010 --> 00:23:32.080
- DAVID: WELL, THAT'S A-- YOU
00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:35.220
KNOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE
00:23:35.220 --> 00:23:37.270
FIRST FUNERAL I EVER HAD AS A
00:23:37.270 --> 00:23:39.010
PASTOR, WAY, WAY BACK, WHEN I
00:23:39.010 --> 00:23:40.000
FIRST STARTED, WAS A BABY THAT
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.060
DIED IN A CRIB DEATH, AND I WAS
00:23:42.060 --> 00:23:44.270
SO TOTALLY UNPREPARED.
00:23:45.220 --> 00:23:48.220
I'M NOT SURE WHAT I SAID OR WHAT
00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:50.070
I DID, BUT I REMEMBER BEING VERY
00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:52.140
TROUBLED ABOUT THAT.
00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:54.010
WHAT HAPPENS TO A LITTLE CHILD
00:23:54.010 --> 00:23:55.130
THAT DIES BEFORE WHAT PEOPLE
00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:57.170
REFER TO AS "THE AGE OF
00:23:57.170 --> 00:23:58.170
ACCOUNTABILITY," WHEN THEY CAN
00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.030
UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL?
00:24:00.030 --> 00:24:01.100
AND I BELIEVE THE BIBLE GIVES US
00:24:01.100 --> 00:24:03.260
A VERY CLEAR ANSWER TO THAT.
00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:06.090
FIRST OF ALL, IT FITS IN WITH
00:24:06.090 --> 00:24:08.000
THE CHARACTER AND COMPASSION OF
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.290
THE LORD.
00:24:09.290 --> 00:24:12.260
THE LORD LOVED CHILDREN, AND HE
00:24:12.260 --> 00:24:13.180
SAID, "SUFFER THE LITTLE
00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:14.180
CHILDREN TO COME UNTO ME...FOR
00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:15.110
SUCH IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN,"
00:24:15.110 --> 00:24:16.130
BUT THE STORY THAT TEACHES US
00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:18.140
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO BABIES IS
00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:19.270
IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:21.070
YOU REMEMBER DAVID COMMITTED
00:24:21.070 --> 00:24:23.220
THAT SIN WITH BATHSHEBA, AND
00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:25.210
THERE WAS A CHILD BORN TO THAT
00:24:25.210 --> 00:24:27.070
UNION, AND ONE OF THE
00:24:27.080 --> 00:24:30.080
PUNISHMENTS THAT DAVID HAD TO
00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:32.000
ENDURE FOR HIS SIN, BECAUSE
00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.220
NATHAN THE PROPHET TOLD HIM THIS
00:24:33.220 --> 00:24:36.140
WAS GONNA HAPPEN, WAS THAT THAT
00:24:36.140 --> 00:24:37.110
CHILD WAS GONNA DIE.
00:24:37.110 --> 00:24:39.000
IN THE STORY, DAVID PUTS ON
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.050
SACKCLOTH AND ASHES, AND HE
00:24:41.050 --> 00:24:43.010
MOURNS WHILE THE CHILD IS STILL
00:24:43.010 --> 00:24:44.230
LIVING.
00:24:44.230 --> 00:24:46.040
HE MOURNS.
00:24:46.040 --> 00:24:46.230
HE WON'T EAT.
00:24:46.230 --> 00:24:47.120
HE WON'T PUT ON ANY-- ANOINT
00:24:47.120 --> 00:24:48.210
HIMSELF WITH OIL.
00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:51.170
BUT THE BIBLE SAYS, WHEN THE
00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:52.280
CHILD DIED, DAVID WENT, GOT
00:24:52.280 --> 00:24:54.050
DRESSED, I WOULD SAY, PROBABLY
00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:58.040
TOOK A SHOWER OR WHATEVER THEY
00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.210
DID, AND PUT ON OIL AND CAME
00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:00.290
BACK, AND HIS FRIENDS SAID, YOU
00:25:00.290 --> 00:25:03.090
KNOW, "WHAT'S GOIN' ON, KING?
00:25:03.090 --> 00:25:04.000
BEFORE THE CHILD DIED, YOU
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.120
MOURNED, AND NOW THAT THE CHILD
00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:08.100
IS DEAD, YOU'RE NOT MOURNING
00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:10.040
ANYMORE."
00:25:10.040 --> 00:25:12.250
AND DAVID SAID, "I CANNOT
00:25:12.250 --> 00:25:14.180
BRING THAT CHILD BACK TO ME,
00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:18.270
BUT I SHALL GO TO THAT CHILD."
00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:22.150
AND WHAT HE SAID WAS THAT
00:25:22.150 --> 00:25:24.220
CHILD WAS IN HEAVEN.
00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:26.150
[APPLAUSE]
00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:27.050
AND THAT IS A POWERFUL
00:25:27.050 --> 00:25:28.140
STORY, AND IT REMINDS US THAT
00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:30.250
GOD CARES FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT
00:25:31.100 --> 00:25:34.100
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL
00:25:34.100 --> 00:25:35.050
BECAUSE THAT'S WHO GOD IS.
00:25:35.050 --> 00:25:37.040
- MATT: YEAH.
00:25:37.040 --> 00:25:37.190
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER
00:25:38.050 --> 00:25:41.050
WHEN YOU WERE TEACHING THIS
00:25:44.150 --> 00:25:46.280
BOOK, "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES
00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:47.290
OF HEAVEN," THAT THERE WAS A LOT
00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:49.180
OF CONNECTION, THAT THIS SERMON
00:25:49.180 --> 00:25:52.040
CONNECTED TO FAMILIES, AND IT
00:25:54.120 --> 00:25:57.120
CONNECTED IN, YOU KNOW, A
00:25:57.120 --> 00:25:59.050
SIGNIFICANT WAY BECAUSE OF THIS
00:25:59.050 --> 00:26:00.070
MATTER.
00:26:00.090 --> 00:26:03.090
WHAT ENCOURAGEMENT DO YOU HAVE
00:26:03.090 --> 00:26:04.240
FOR PARENTS?
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:05.240
- DAVID: WELL, I'M GONNA TALK
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:06.150
TO SOME PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, MATT,
00:26:06.150 --> 00:26:08.050
WHO DON'T GET TALKED TO VERY
00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:09.260
OFTEN.
00:26:09.260 --> 00:26:11.080
- DAVID: A LOT OF WOMEN WHO
00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:16.040
EXPERIENCE AN ABORTION, MAYBE
00:26:16.040 --> 00:26:17.250
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANY
00:26:17.250 --> 00:26:18.150
BETTER OR MAYBE JUST OUT OF
00:26:18.150 --> 00:26:20.130
REBELLION TO GOD, NEVER, EVER
00:26:20.130 --> 00:26:21.120
CAN GET PAST THAT, BUT I WANNA
00:26:21.120 --> 00:26:22.230
RUN THIS LOGIC BY YOU.
00:26:22.230 --> 00:26:25.030
IF WE BELIEVE THAT LIFE BEGINS
00:26:25.030 --> 00:26:26.260
AT CONCEPTION, WHICH THE BIBLE
00:26:27.040 --> 00:26:30.040
TEACHES, THEN A CHILD IN THE
00:26:31.090 --> 00:26:34.090
WOMB IS A PERSON, AND THAT
00:26:34.090 --> 00:26:36.290
PERSON, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO
00:26:36.290 --> 00:26:38.220
BE IN HEAVEN.
00:26:38.220 --> 00:26:40.090
I BELIEVE THAT MOTHERS WHO HAVE
00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.190
MOURNED THE LOSS OF A CHILD THAT
00:26:44.190 --> 00:26:46.240
THEY WISH THEY HAD NOT ALLOWED
00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:50.120
TO GO, ARE GONNA HOLD THOSE
00:26:50.120 --> 00:26:52.190
CHILDREN IN THEIR ARMS AGAIN IN
00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:53.150
HEAVEN BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT
00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:55.170
BABIES, NO MATTER WHAT AGE THEY
00:26:55.170 --> 00:26:57.260
MAY BE, ARE COVERED UNDER THE
00:26:57.260 --> 00:26:59.160
BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, AND THOSE
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.060
BABIES ARE GONNA BE IN HEAVEN.
00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:02.290
- MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
00:27:02.290 --> 00:27:03.260
WOW.
00:27:03.260 --> 00:27:06.090
[APPLAUSE]
00:27:06.090 --> 00:27:07.240
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVEN.
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:08.260
AND WE WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT
00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:14.040
THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE FOR THE
00:27:14.040 --> 00:27:14.250
ENTIRE MONTH OF JULY.
00:27:14.250 --> 00:27:15.230
[MUSIC]
00:27:20.050 --> 00:27:20.260
- FEMALE: IS THERE A HEAVEN?
00:27:20.260 --> 00:27:21.170
- MALE: WILL I SEE FAMILY
00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:22.100
MEMBERS?
00:27:22.100 --> 00:27:23.030
- MALE: WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
00:27:23.030 --> 00:27:24.140
- FEMALE: IS THERE GONNA BE AN
00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:25.060
- MALE ANNOUNCER: THE ANSWER TO
00:27:27.190 --> 00:27:28.110
THESE QUESTIONS ARE UNCOVERED IN
00:27:28.110 --> 00:27:29.030
DAVID JEREMIAH'S NEW BOOK,
00:27:29.030 --> 00:27:31.010
"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:27:31.010 --> 00:27:31.230
HEAVEN."
00:27:31.230 --> 00:27:34.150
SO AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANKS
00:27:34.150 --> 00:27:35.290
FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT
00:27:35.290 --> 00:27:37.110
THIS MONTH, WE WANT TO SEND YOU
00:27:37.110 --> 00:27:39.000
YOUR OWN COPY; AND FOR YOUR
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.110
SPECIAL GIFT OF $70 OR MORE,
00:27:41.110 --> 00:27:43.020
WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE
00:27:43.020 --> 00:27:44.250
DR. JEREMIAH'S THREE-BOOK
00:27:44.250 --> 00:27:46.140
"ANSWERS COLLECTION."
00:27:46.140 --> 00:27:48.070
IN THESE UNIQUE,
00:27:48.070 --> 00:27:49.290
PROMISE-FILLED BOOKS,
00:27:49.290 --> 00:27:51.070
YOU'LL DISCOVER CONCRETE,
00:27:51.070 --> 00:27:52.200
BIBLICAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:53.280
ABOUT PROPHECY, HEAVEN, AND
00:27:53.280 --> 00:27:56.150
SPIRITUAL WARFARE; OR FOR YOUR
00:27:56.150 --> 00:27:58.280
GENEROUS GIFT OF $200 OR MORE IN
00:27:58.280 --> 00:28:01.130
SUPPORT OF TBN, WE'LL SEND ALL
00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:03.000
THESE RESOURCES, PLUS THE
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.100
"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:28:05.100 --> 00:28:07.180
HEAVEN," FIVE-CD AND SIX-DVD
00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:09.050
SET.
00:28:09.050 --> 00:28:11.040
THIS COMPREHENSIVE, STEP-BY-STEP
00:28:11.040 --> 00:28:12.160
TEACHING EXPLORES THE
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.140
OFTEN-HIDDEN TRUTHS IN SCRIPTURE
00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:16.210
ABOUT THE GLORY OF HEAVEN AND
00:28:16.210 --> 00:28:18.150
WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU GET
00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:20.180
THERE.
00:28:20.180 --> 00:28:22.110
- DAVID: AND SO IF YOU WERE TO
00:28:22.110 --> 00:28:23.030
SEE IT FROM AFAR, IT WOULD JUST
00:28:23.030 --> 00:28:24.110
SPARKLE AND SHINE AS IT TURNED
00:28:24.110 --> 00:28:26.040
AROUND, AND ALL THE HUES OF THE
00:28:26.120 --> 00:28:29.120
GLORY OF THE CITY WOULD BE SO
00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:30.040
OVERWHELMING.
00:28:30.040 --> 00:28:31.000
IT WOULD TAKE YOUR BREATH AWAY.
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:32.010
- ANNOUNCER: FOR MORE THAN 40
00:28:32.010 --> 00:28:32.290
YEARS, TBN PARTNERS HAVE SHARED
00:28:32.290 --> 00:28:34.110
JESUS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND
00:28:34.110 --> 00:28:36.140
TO THE FAR CORNERS OF THE WORLD.
00:28:36.140 --> 00:28:37.270
YOUR FAITHFUL SUPPORT OF THIS
00:28:37.270 --> 00:28:40.240
EVER-EXPANDING GLOBAL OUTREACH
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.290
ENSURES THAT ONE BY ONE, LOST
00:28:42.290 --> 00:28:45.100
SOULS CAN BE SAVED AND NEW
00:28:45.100 --> 00:28:47.220
BELIEVERS DISCIPLED IN GOD'S
00:28:47.220 --> 00:28:49.110
WORD.
00:28:49.110 --> 00:28:50.200
CALL 800-201-5200, OR GO
00:28:50.270 --> 00:28:53.270
SECURELY ONLINE TO
00:28:53.270 --> 00:28:55.140
TBN.ORG/GIVING, TO CHOOSE YOUR
00:28:56.020 --> 00:28:59.020
LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND RECEIVE
00:28:59.020 --> 00:29:01.290
YOUR COPY OF "REVEALING THE
00:29:01.290 --> 00:29:04.210
MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN," OR THE
00:29:04.210 --> 00:29:05.250
"ANSWERS" BOOK COLLECTION, OR
00:29:05.250 --> 00:29:07.200
THE COMPLETE BUNDLE, FEATURING
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.290
THE "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:29:09.290 --> 00:29:12.100
HEAVEN," FIVE-CD AND SIX-DVD
00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:13.270
SET.
00:29:13.270 --> 00:29:15.210
DISCOVER THE MYSTERIES OF
00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:16.100
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:29:19.030 --> 00:29:21.270
- MATT: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
00:29:21.270 --> 00:29:22.180
HEAVEN.
00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:26.180
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN
00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:29.180
NAMED PAUL BILLHEIMER, AND WE
00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:30.270
CALLED HIM "DAD BILLHEIMER"
00:29:30.270 --> 00:29:33.080
AROUND HERE.
00:29:33.080 --> 00:29:35.070
HE WAS VERY CLOSE TO MY MOM AND
00:29:35.070 --> 00:29:36.240
DAD, AND HE WROTE A BOOK, CALLED
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.060
"DESTINED FOR THE THRONE," AND
00:29:38.060 --> 00:29:40.110
HE DESCRIBED LIVING ON EARTH AS
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.000
BASICALLY ON-THE-JOB TRAINING
00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.150
FOR HEAVEN, THAT THINGS IN LIFE
00:29:48.150 --> 00:29:51.020
SOMETIMES DON'T MAKE SENSE
00:29:51.270 --> 00:29:54.270
UNLESS YOU ZOOM BACK BEYOND JUST
00:29:55.020 --> 00:29:58.020
THE NATURAL LIFE AND INCLUDE
00:29:58.020 --> 00:29:59.120
ETERNITY.
00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:01.120
SOME THINGS THAT YOU JUST
00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:02.270
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND
00:30:02.270 --> 00:30:04.010
JUST DON'T SEEM FAIR, SO
00:30:04.010 --> 00:30:05.110
DR. BILLHEIMER, DAD BILLHEIMER,
00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:08.100
WOULD ZOOM OUT AND INCLUDE
00:30:08.100 --> 00:30:09.200
ETERNITY, AND THEN CALL EARTH
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:10.230
"ON-THE-JOB TRAINING FOR
00:30:11.270 --> 00:30:14.270
HEAVEN."
00:30:14.270 --> 00:30:17.260
YOU HAVE A CHAPTER IN
00:30:17.260 --> 00:30:18.130
YOUR BOOK "REVEALING THE
00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:19.030
WHICH IS OUR GIFT ALL MONTH OF
00:30:22.230 --> 00:30:23.140
JULY, TALKING ABOUT "HEAVEN'S
00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:24.050
OSCARS."
00:30:24.050 --> 00:30:25.240
WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:26.130
- DAVID: WELL, IN THE NEW
00:30:26.130 --> 00:30:28.240
TESTAMENT, MATT, THERE ARE FIVE
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.150
DIFFERENT CROWNS THAT ARE GONNA
00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:32.210
BE HANDED OUT AT THE JUDGMENT
00:30:32.210 --> 00:30:34.290
SEAT OF CHRIST.
00:30:34.290 --> 00:30:37.020
FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A SOUL
00:30:37.020 --> 00:30:38.110
WINNER'S CROWN, THOSE WHO WIN
00:30:38.110 --> 00:30:39.070
PEOPLE TO JESUS CHRIST.
00:30:39.070 --> 00:30:41.190
THEY'RE GONNA GET THIS CROWN.
00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:42.280
THERE'S A VICTOR'S CROWN.
00:30:42.280 --> 00:30:44.230
THERE'S A CROWN FOR THOSE WHO
00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:46.010
LOVE THE LORD'S APPEARING.
00:30:46.010 --> 00:30:48.030
THERE'S EVEN A SPECIAL CROWN FOR
00:30:48.030 --> 00:30:49.180
PASTORS WHO ARE FAITHFUL, AND
00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:51.090
THAT'S ALL EXPLAINED IN THE NEW
00:30:51.090 --> 00:30:53.000
TESTAMENT.
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.200
NOW, EVERYBODY SAYS, "WELL,
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.100
WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO WITH THOSE
00:30:55.100 --> 00:30:56.280
CROWNS?"
00:30:56.280 --> 00:30:57.240
THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE GONNA GET
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.270
THEM AND CAST THEM AT THE FEET
00:30:59.270 --> 00:31:00.210
OF JESUS.
00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:01.260
- MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:31:01.260 --> 00:31:03.070
- DAVID: WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE
00:31:03.070 --> 00:31:03.280
THE CROWN, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA
00:31:03.280 --> 00:31:04.200
HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF GIVING
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:05.190
THEM BACK TO THE LORD AS A GIFT
00:31:05.190 --> 00:31:06.140
OF OUR LOVE.
00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.000
A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.120
THIS BECAUSE THEY SAY, "OH, YOU
00:31:09.120 --> 00:31:11.000
SHOULDN'T SERVE JESUS 'CAUSE
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.080
YOU'RE GONNA GET A REWARD."
00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:13.160
WELL, I HAVE TO TELL YA, THAT'S
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.200
WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES, AND
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.190
THERE ISN'T ANYTHING WRONG WITH
00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:17.180
REWARDS.
00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.110
IN OUR CULTURE TODAY, WE'VE KIND
00:31:19.110 --> 00:31:20.100
OF LOST THAT.
00:31:20.100 --> 00:31:21.130
WE GIVE EVERYBODY A REWARD
00:31:21.130 --> 00:31:22.200
WHETHER THEY DO ANYTHING FOR IT
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:23.120
OR NOT, YOU KNOW?
00:31:23.120 --> 00:31:24.020
[LAUGHTER]
00:31:24.020 --> 00:31:24.210
THERE'S A PARTICIPATION TROPHY.
00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:25.280
EVERYBODY GETS ONE!
00:31:25.280 --> 00:31:26.290
- LAURIE: LOOK WHAT I GOT US!
00:31:26.290 --> 00:31:27.290
- DAVID: BUT IN HEAVEN, THERE'S
00:31:27.290 --> 00:31:29.200
GONNA BE REWARDS WHO SERVED
00:31:29.230 --> 00:31:32.230
FAITHFULLY, AND THAT'S WHAT
00:31:32.230 --> 00:31:34.040
- MATT: WOW, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
00:31:36.170 --> 00:31:37.090
SO NOT EVERYONE GETS A REWARD IN
00:31:37.090 --> 00:31:38.020
HEAVEN.
00:31:38.020 --> 00:31:39.140
- DAVID: NO.
00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:40.010
- MATT: I MEAN, I GUESS PART OF
00:31:40.010 --> 00:31:41.030
THE REWARD IS YOU BASICALLY--
00:31:41.030 --> 00:31:43.100
- LAURIE: YOU'RE THERE!
00:31:43.150 --> 00:31:46.150
- MATT: -- BY FAITH, BELIEVED
00:31:46.150 --> 00:31:48.000
THAT JESUS PAID THE PRICE FOR
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.290
YOU AND THAT YOU, WITHOUT ANY
00:31:49.290 --> 00:31:50.200
WORKS OF YOUR OWN, ACCEPTED, YOU
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.210
KNOW, YOU WERE BOUGHT WITH A
00:31:53.010 --> 00:31:56.010
PRICE, AND YOU'RE IN HEAVEN.
00:31:56.010 --> 00:31:57.230
BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE ARE
00:31:57.230 --> 00:31:59.200
REWARDS, SO IS THAT WHY IT'S
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.240
OKAY TO WORK HARD, THINKING
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.000
ABOUT THAT REWARD IN HEAVEN?
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:04.170
- DAVID: ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE,
00:32:04.170 --> 00:32:06.030
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET SAVED AND
00:32:06.030 --> 00:32:07.240
YOU REALIZE THE SACRIFICE THAT
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.280
HAS BEEN MADE FOR YOU, AND WHEN
00:32:10.290 --> 00:32:13.290
YOU GET A HOLD OF THAT-- LIKE, I
00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:17.130
THINK I'VE REALLY HAD THE
00:32:17.130 --> 00:32:19.020
GREATEST MOMENT OF THAT WHEN I
00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:19.270
WAS WATCHING "THE PASSION OF
00:32:19.270 --> 00:32:20.240
THE CHRIST."
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.270
NEVER DID RECOVER FROM THAT.
00:32:21.270 --> 00:32:22.290
YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE
00:32:22.290 --> 00:32:23.200
TO SERVE THE LORD JESUS.
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.240
YOU WANNA GIVE EVERYTHING YOU
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.190
HAVE.
00:32:25.190 --> 00:32:27.200
YOU WANT YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.110
LIFE AND YOUR TALENT AND
00:32:28.110 --> 00:32:29.020
ABILITIES, WHATEVER IT IS THAT
00:32:29.020 --> 00:32:29.230
GOD HAS GIVEN YOU-- I TELL MY
00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:30.140
KIDS AT HOME WHEN THEY WERE
00:32:30.140 --> 00:32:31.140
GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, "WHATEVER
00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:32.060
ABILITY GOD HAS GIVEN YOU,
00:32:32.060 --> 00:32:33.140
THAT'S HIS GIFT TO YOU, BUT WHAT
00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:34.210
YOU DO WITH IT, THAT'S YOUR GIFT
00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:35.250
TO HIM."
00:32:35.250 --> 00:32:37.260
SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE THINGS
00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:38.220
THAT GOD HAS GIVEN YOU
00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:40.060
AND MANIFEST THEM BACK TO THE
00:32:40.060 --> 00:32:42.230
LORD, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT
00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:45.090
FAITHFULLY, THE BIBLE SAYS GOD
00:32:45.090 --> 00:32:47.000
HAS A REWARD FOR THOSE WHO SERVE
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.170
HIM IN SUCH A WAY.
00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:50.000
- MATT: ARE YOU TELLING US THAT
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:51.250
PARTICIPATION TROPHIES ON EARTH
00:32:51.250 --> 00:32:53.160
ARE NOT BIBLICAL?
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.040
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:55.250
SAY?
00:32:55.250 --> 00:32:56.110
- DAVID: NO, I DON'T KNOW IF
00:32:56.110 --> 00:32:57.070
THEY'RE NOT BIBLICAL.
00:32:57.070 --> 00:32:57.250
I SURE DON'T LIKE 'EM.
00:32:57.250 --> 00:32:59.240
[LAUGHTER]
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:00.200
I THINK THEY DESTROY THE WHOLE
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.110
IDEA OF WINNING, AND THE BIBLE
00:33:01.110 --> 00:33:04.110
SPEAKS ABOUT WINNING.
00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:07.170
PAUL WAS THE GREAT ATHLETE IN
00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:08.240
THE BIBLE, AND HE SPOKE ABOUT
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.150
RUNNING TO WIN, NOT RUNNING TO
00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:10.290
PARTICIPATE.
00:33:10.290 --> 00:33:13.170
[LAUGHTER]
00:33:13.170 --> 00:33:14.260
SO, ANYWAY, BUT HOW DID WE
00:33:14.260 --> 00:33:16.030
GET UP ON THAT, MATT?
00:33:16.030 --> 00:33:16.280
- MATT: NO, I'M JUST TRYIN' TO
00:33:16.280 --> 00:33:18.140
GET YOU TO SAY--
00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:19.060
- DAVID: YOU'RE SETTIN' ME UP
00:33:19.060 --> 00:33:19.270
IS WHAT YOU'RE DOIN'!
00:33:19.270 --> 00:33:20.140
- MATT: A TOTAL SETUP!
00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:21.040
[LAUGHTER]
00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:22.170
I JUST WANTED TO SEE
00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:23.030
IF YOU'D SAY SOMETHIN'
00:33:23.030 --> 00:33:23.200
CONTROVERSIAL--
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:24.040
- DAVID: THERE YOU GO!
00:33:24.040 --> 00:33:25.030
- MATT: -- WHICH I LIKE IT WHEN
00:33:25.030 --> 00:33:25.250
YOU DO THAT!
00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:26.120
- DAVID: THANK YOU!
00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:26.280
- MATT: BY THE WAY, WE'RE
00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:27.270
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVEN.
00:33:30.260 --> 00:33:32.270
I WANNA GO TO ANOTHER CHAPTER IN
00:33:32.270 --> 00:33:33.190
THE BOOK AND ASK YOU ABOUT--
00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:35.260
CHAPTER SIX IS ENTITLED "THE
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.000
HEAVENLY CITY," AND WHAT DO YOU
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.060
TALK ABOUT IN THAT CHAPTER OF
00:33:42.060 --> 00:33:43.280
YOUR BOOK "REVEALING THE
00:33:43.280 --> 00:33:45.070
MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN"?
00:33:45.070 --> 00:33:47.230
- DAVID: WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF
00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:48.180
THE THINGS THAT REALLY SURPRISES
00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:50.040
PEOPLE IS THAT, WHEN YOU GET
00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:51.050
INTO HEAVEN, THE FINAL HEAVEN,
00:33:51.050 --> 00:33:53.160
THE BIBLE SAYS THE CITY OF
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.250
HEAVEN IS GONNA COME DOWN TO
00:33:54.250 --> 00:33:56.130
THIS EARTH, AND THAT CITY IS
00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:58.090
DESCRIBED IN THE BOOK OF
00:33:58.090 --> 00:34:00.140
REVELATION IN A WAY THAT YOU
00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:02.070
CANNOT COMPREHEND.
00:34:02.070 --> 00:34:04.150
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO SOME
00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:05.160
BEAUTIFUL PLACES, BUT I CAN'T
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.100
EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING THAT EVEN
00:34:07.100 --> 00:34:09.000
COMES CLOSE TO THE DESCRIPTION
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.220
OF HEAVEN.
00:34:10.220 --> 00:34:12.010
PEOPLE SAY, "OH, THERE'S NOT
00:34:12.010 --> 00:34:13.050
GONNA REALLY BE STREETS OF
00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:13.270
GOLD."
00:34:13.270 --> 00:34:14.160
OH, YES, THERE ARE, AND
00:34:14.160 --> 00:34:16.130
IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST GOLD.
00:34:16.130 --> 00:34:17.100
IT'S GONNA BE TRANSLUCENT GOLD
00:34:17.100 --> 00:34:18.280
THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH, AND
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.100
THE GATES OF THE CITY ARE MADE
00:34:20.100 --> 00:34:22.100
OUT OF PEARL.
00:34:22.100 --> 00:34:24.230
I MEAN, I KEEP THINKIN' ABOUT
00:34:24.230 --> 00:34:26.250
HOW BIG AN OYSTER IT'S GONNA
00:34:26.250 --> 00:34:28.190
TAKE TO DO THIS, BUT EVERY GATE
00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:29.110
IS A PEARL CREATED BY GOD.
00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:31.250
AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE
00:34:32.240 --> 00:34:35.240
CITY IS BUILT WITH PRECIOUS
00:34:35.240 --> 00:34:37.030
STONES, THAT EACH ONE OF THEM IS
00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:39.060
DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, AND, YOU
00:34:39.060 --> 00:34:40.150
KNOW, IF WE KNEW MORE ABOUT
00:34:41.020 --> 00:34:44.020
HEAVEN THAN WE DO, WE'D BE SO
00:34:44.020 --> 00:34:45.100
HEAVENLY MINDED, WE WOULDN'T BE
00:34:45.100 --> 00:34:46.020
ANY EARTHLY GOOD.
00:34:46.020 --> 00:34:48.050
BUT HEAVEN IS AN INCREDIBLE
00:34:48.050 --> 00:34:49.190
PLACE, AND WHEN YOU TAKE TIME TO
00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:52.020
STUDY IT, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST
00:34:52.020 --> 00:34:52.270
COUPLE CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK OF
00:34:52.270 --> 00:34:54.140
REVELATION, IF YOU REALLY ASK
00:34:54.140 --> 00:34:56.180
GOD TO REVEAL THE BEAUTY OF
00:34:56.180 --> 00:34:57.270
HEAVEN TO YOU, YOU'LL NEVER
00:34:57.270 --> 00:34:58.290
RECOVER FROM IT.
00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:02.250
- MATT: WE'RE-- OH, GO AHEAD,
00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:03.160
BABE.
00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:03.250
- LAURIE: SORRY.
00:35:03.250 --> 00:35:04.100
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, THERE'S
00:35:04.100 --> 00:35:05.010
THREE DIFFERENT HEAVENS,
00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:05.190
CORRECT?
00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:07.250
CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT FOR
00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:08.160
EVERYBODY?
00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:09.100
- DAVID: WELL, THERE'S THE
00:35:09.100 --> 00:35:10.130
HEAVEN WE SEE AROUND US, AND
00:35:10.130 --> 00:35:12.160
THEN THERE'S THE STRATOSPHERE,
00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:13.190
AND THEN THERE'S WHAT THEY CALL
00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:14.180
AND THE THIRD HEAVEN IS WHERE
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.190
GOD LIVES.
00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:18.200
HE LIVES IN THE THIRD HEAVEN.
00:35:18.200 --> 00:35:19.210
BY THE WAY, HEAVEN IS UP.
00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:23.080
WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE
00:35:23.080 --> 00:35:25.040
SCRIPTURE TEACHES THAT, AND SO
00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:26.100
THAT'S--
00:35:26.100 --> 00:35:28.060
- LAURIE: NORTH.
00:35:28.060 --> 00:35:29.160
- DAVID: YES, RIGHT, RIGHT.
00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:31.100
SO THE HEAVEN THE BIBLE TALKS
00:35:31.100 --> 00:35:33.120
ABOUT IS THE THIRD HEAVEN, NOT
00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:34.170
THE ATMOSPHERE OR THE
00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:37.010
STRATOSPHERE, BUT THE THIRD
00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:38.030
HEAVEN.
00:35:38.030 --> 00:35:39.250
THAT'S WHERE GOD IS.
00:35:39.250 --> 00:35:41.050
- MATT: OKAY.
00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:41.190
- LAURIE: HE'S CLEARING THAT
00:35:41.190 --> 00:35:42.160
UP.
00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:43.240
- MATT: YEAH, AND TECHNICALLY,
00:35:43.240 --> 00:35:44.190
"NORTH" IS NOT UP.
00:35:44.190 --> 00:35:46.200
- LAURIE: NO.
00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:47.180
- MATT: YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS IF
00:35:47.180 --> 00:35:48.100
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BEING ON
00:35:48.100 --> 00:35:49.010
THE PLANET.
00:35:49.010 --> 00:35:50.160
- LAURIE: NO.
00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:51.120
- DAVID: WHY DON'T YOU GUYS
00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:52.020
FIGURE THAT OUT AND GIVE US THE
00:35:52.020 --> 00:35:53.010
REPORT, YEAH!
00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:53.160
[LAUGHTER]
00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:54.150
- MATT: SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT
00:35:54.150 --> 00:35:55.080
THAT LATER!
00:35:55.080 --> 00:35:55.220
- LAURIE: NO!
00:35:55.220 --> 00:35:56.100
- DAVID: NEXT TIME, YOU CAN
00:35:56.100 --> 00:35:57.100
TELL ME WHAT YOU FOUND OUT,
00:35:57.100 --> 00:35:58.070
RIGHT?
00:35:58.070 --> 00:35:58.290
- MATT: SO NORTH...
00:35:58.290 --> 00:36:00.200
- LAURIE: THERE IS A SPOT IN
00:36:00.200 --> 00:36:02.050
THE NORTH, AM I CORRECT?
00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:02.250
- DAVID: THAT'S CORRECT.
00:36:02.250 --> 00:36:03.190
- MATT: YEAH, BUT THEN YOU CAN
00:36:03.190 --> 00:36:04.120
GO UP FROM THERE.
00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:05.190
- LAURIE: I KNOW.
00:36:05.190 --> 00:36:06.050
- MATT: OKAY, WELL--
00:36:06.050 --> 00:36:07.100
- LAURIE: BUT THERE'S A SPOT IN
00:36:07.100 --> 00:36:08.020
THE NORTH THAT IS...
00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:10.290
- MATT: WHAT?
00:36:10.290 --> 00:36:11.170
THAT'S WHAT?
00:36:11.170 --> 00:36:12.070
- DAVID: IT'S AN EMPTY SPOT.
00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:12.280
NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT IS
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.190
THERE, AND IT'S THE UNEXPLORED
00:36:13.190 --> 00:36:14.170
THIRD HEAVEN.
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.000
SEE, SHE'S DOIN' HER HOMEWORK
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:19.140
RIGHT HERE.
00:36:19.140 --> 00:36:20.030
- MATT: ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.
00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:20.240
- LAURIE: OKAY, NOW YOU ALL GO
00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:21.160
STUDY THAT!
00:36:21.160 --> 00:36:22.010
- MATT: YEAH, OKAY.
00:36:22.010 --> 00:36:22.170
- LAURIE: WRITE ME!
00:36:22.170 --> 00:36:24.190
- MATT: IT'S IN THE BOOK, OKAY.
00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:25.110
LET ME RESET FOR JUST ONE
00:36:25.160 --> 00:36:28.160
SECOND, AND, FIRST OF ALL, JUST,
00:36:28.160 --> 00:36:31.140
KIND OF, RE-WELCOME-- AUDIENCE,
00:36:31.140 --> 00:36:32.210
JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE WAVE AND--
00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:34.040
- LAURIE: WHAT A BEAUTIFUL
00:36:34.040 --> 00:36:34.240
AUDIENCE!
00:36:34.240 --> 00:36:35.160
- MATT: -- WAVE TO YOUR AUNTIES
00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:36.240
AND YOUR UNCLES AND YOUR FRIENDS
00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:37.200
AND FAMILY, AND SMILE WHETHER
00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:39.290
YOU HAVE TEETH OR NOT!
00:36:39.290 --> 00:36:41.000
BIG SMILE THERE!
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.260
[LAUGHTER]
00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:45.020
AND WE ENJOY DOING THESE
00:36:45.020 --> 00:36:45.200
BROADCASTS LIKE THIS.
00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:47.230
THANK YOU, AUDIENCE, FOR BEING
00:36:47.230 --> 00:36:48.140
HERE.
00:36:48.140 --> 00:36:49.000
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVEN.
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.290
OUR JULY GIFT THIS MONTH IS THE
00:36:55.090 --> 00:36:56.010
"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:36:56.010 --> 00:36:57.010
HEAVEN."
00:36:57.200 --> 00:37:00.220
OKAY, LET'S KIND OF RESET A
00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:04.250
LITTLE BIT, AND SOMEBODY
00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:06.040
JUST TUNED IN.
00:37:06.040 --> 00:37:07.180
THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
00:37:08.210 --> 00:37:11.210
ANYTHING.
00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:12.120
WHAT IS HEAVEN?
00:37:12.120 --> 00:37:13.150
WHAT IS HELL?
00:37:13.150 --> 00:37:14.080
WHAT'S THE POINT?
00:37:14.080 --> 00:37:15.230
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS
00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:16.190
PLACE?
00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:17.100
- LAURIE: AND WHY IS IT...
00:37:17.100 --> 00:37:18.020
- MATT: AND WHY IS IT
00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:18.270
IMPORTANT?
00:37:18.270 --> 00:37:19.110
- LAURIE: WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:20.200
- DAVID: WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT
00:37:20.200 --> 00:37:22.120
BECAUSE HEAVEN IS GOING TO BE
00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:25.140
THE HOME OF SOME PEOPLE FOREVER.
00:37:25.140 --> 00:37:27.010
- MATT: OKAY.
00:37:27.010 --> 00:37:28.200
- DAVID: THE ALTERNATIVE ISN'T
00:37:28.200 --> 00:37:29.120
VERY GOOD.
00:37:29.120 --> 00:37:29.250
AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEND
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.000
ETERNITY IN HEAVEN, THERE IS A
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.030
PLAN, THERE'S A WAY, AND GOD
00:37:34.030 --> 00:37:36.150
ISN'T BASHFUL ABOUT SAYING WHAT
00:37:36.150 --> 00:37:38.090
IT IS.
00:37:38.090 --> 00:37:40.110
HE TELLS US THAT HEAVEN IS GOD'S
00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:42.080
GIFT TO US.
00:37:42.080 --> 00:37:43.250
THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE
00:37:43.250 --> 00:37:44.270
THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
00:37:44.270 --> 00:37:45.250
- MATT: TO ANY AND EVERY HUMAN
00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.140
BEING ON EARTH?
00:37:47.140 --> 00:37:47.290
- DAVID: TO ANY SINGLE PERSON
00:37:47.290 --> 00:37:49.100
WHO WILL COME TO RECEIVE THE
00:37:49.100 --> 00:37:50.120
GIFT.
00:37:50.120 --> 00:37:50.270
- MATT: GOT IT.
00:37:50.270 --> 00:37:51.120
- LAURIE: THERE'S NO ONE TOO
00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:52.030
BAD?
00:37:52.030 --> 00:37:53.020
- DAVID: THERE'S NO ONE TOO
00:37:53.020 --> 00:37:54.190
BAD.
00:37:54.190 --> 00:37:55.220
YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ THROUGH
00:37:55.220 --> 00:37:56.170
YOU'LL FIND INSTANCES WHERE
00:38:00.020 --> 00:38:00.220
PEOPLE FOUND FAITH IN CHRIST-- I
00:38:00.220 --> 00:38:01.140
HE WASN'T JUST A BAD PERSON.
00:38:04.120 --> 00:38:06.100
HE WAS KILLING CHRISTIANS.
00:38:06.100 --> 00:38:08.140
HE WAS A TERRORIST, AND THEN GOD
00:38:08.140 --> 00:38:09.260
FOUND HIM AND BROUGHT HIM TO
00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:12.130
SO THERE'S NOT ANYTHING YOU CAN
00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:17.080
DO TO OUT-SIN GOD'S GRACE.
00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:19.080
THERE'S NOT ANYTHING YOU CAN DO
00:38:19.080 --> 00:38:21.250
TO GET OUT OF THE REACH OF HIS
00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:22.200
LOVING ARMS.
00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:25.120
AND IF YOU TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST
00:38:25.120 --> 00:38:26.120
TO FORGIVE YOUR SIN-- AND
00:38:26.120 --> 00:38:28.140
SOMEBODY SAID, "WELL, HOW DO I
00:38:28.140 --> 00:38:29.120
DO THAT?"
00:38:29.120 --> 00:38:30.080
YOU DECIDE TO DO IT.
00:38:30.080 --> 00:38:31.060
THAT'S ONE THING THAT KIND OF
00:38:31.060 --> 00:38:32.130
GETS LOST SOMETIMES IN THE
00:38:32.130 --> 00:38:33.050
GOSPEL PRESENTATION.
00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:34.220
TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN IS A
00:38:34.220 --> 00:38:36.090
DECISION WE MAKE.
00:38:36.090 --> 00:38:39.010
I HAVE DECIDED TO PUT MY TRUST
00:38:39.010 --> 00:38:40.290
IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR
00:38:40.290 --> 00:38:42.120
ETERNAL LIFE, AND WHEN YOU DO
00:38:42.120 --> 00:38:44.070
THAT, JESUS CHRIST COMES TO TAKE
00:38:44.070 --> 00:38:46.150
UP HIS RESIDENCE IN YOUR HEART.
00:38:46.150 --> 00:38:49.020
YOU BECOME A CHRISTIAN, AND YOU
00:38:49.020 --> 00:38:50.240
MAKE YOUR RESERVATION FOR
00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:53.040
HEAVEN.
00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:54.220
- MATT: HAVE YOU EVER, ANY TIME
00:38:54.230 --> 00:38:57.230
AT AN AIRPORT OR A HOTEL LOBBY
00:38:57.230 --> 00:38:59.260
OR ANYWHERE, CONFRONTED
00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:02.020
SOMEBODY, OR YOU FELT, YOU KNOW,
00:39:02.020 --> 00:39:04.190
LED TO HAVE A PERSONAL TALK WITH
00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:06.160
SOMEBODY, AND THEY JUST GO,
00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:08.150
"YEP, NOPE, DON'T BUY THIS AT
00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:10.040
ALL"?
00:39:10.040 --> 00:39:11.020
- DAVID: SURE.
00:39:11.020 --> 00:39:12.080
- MATT: OKAY.
00:39:12.080 --> 00:39:14.150
- DAVID: YOU CAN'T BE IN THE
00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:15.060
MAINSTREAM WITHOUT THAT
00:39:15.060 --> 00:39:15.240
HAPPENING.
00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:16.220
- MATT: OKAY, SO WHAT DO YOU
00:39:16.220 --> 00:39:17.130
SAY IF SOMEBODY'S VIEWING RIGHT
00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:18.050
NOW AND JUST SAID, "OKAY, THE
00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:19.200
GUY OVER THERE, HE DOES HAVE
00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:21.030
NICE HAIR, BUT I THINK HE'S A
00:39:21.030 --> 00:39:23.010
NUT, AND I THINK THE PEOPLE
00:39:23.010 --> 00:39:25.050
INTERVIEWING HIM ARE NUTS TOO"--
00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:28.090
- LAURIE: ARE REALLY NUTS!
00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:30.180
- MATT: -- WHICH IS US, "AND
00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:31.090
THAT, IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THAT
00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:33.290
THERE'S A PLACE THAT WE'RE ALL
00:39:33.290 --> 00:39:34.240
GONNA FLY TO ONE DAY..."
00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:35.210
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE TOTAL
00:39:35.210 --> 00:39:36.110
PERSON THAT JUST DOESN'T
00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:38.010
BUY A WORD OF IT?
00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.040
- DAVID: YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS
00:39:40.040 --> 00:39:41.000
DID WHEN PEOPLE ASKED HIM
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:41.260
QUESTIONS LIKE THAT?
00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:42.130
HE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS BACK.
00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:44.200
- MATT: OKAY.
00:39:44.200 --> 00:39:45.060
- DAVID: AND HERE'S WHAT JESUS,
00:39:45.060 --> 00:39:46.120
I THINK, MIGHT SAY.
00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:48.280
I THINK JESUS MIGHT SAY, "OKAY,
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:49.250
WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE THE DOOR
00:39:49.250 --> 00:39:52.140
OF HEAVEN AND YOU'RE ASKED, 'WHY
00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:53.230
SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY
00:39:53.230 --> 00:39:56.050
HEAVEN?'
00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:57.280
WHAT'RE YOU GONNA SAY?"
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.280
THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE QUESTION.
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.190
"IF SOMEDAY YOU STAND BEFORE
00:40:00.190 --> 00:40:02.190
GOD'S HEAVEN AND HE ASKS YOU,
00:40:03.020 --> 00:40:06.020
'WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY
00:40:06.020 --> 00:40:07.000
HEAVEN?'
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:07.170
WHAT'RE YOU GONNA SAY?"
00:40:07.170 --> 00:40:08.050
I'VE PERSONALLY ASKED THAT
00:40:08.050 --> 00:40:09.140
QUESTION TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE,
00:40:09.140 --> 00:40:11.140
AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY SAY,
00:40:11.140 --> 00:40:13.020
"WELL, I'VE BEEN A GOOD PERSON,"
00:40:13.020 --> 00:40:14.200
AND THEN I REMIND THEM THAT GOD
00:40:14.200 --> 00:40:16.020
DOESN'T GRADE ON THE CURVE.
00:40:16.020 --> 00:40:17.210
HE GRADES ON 100%.
00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:20.100
AND LITTLE BY LITTLE, THEY CYCLE
00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:21.250
THROUGH THEIR ANSWERS, AND THEN
00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:23.150
I'M ABLE TO SAY TO THEM, "LISTEN
00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:24.070
TO ME.
00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:24.290
THE BIBLE TELLS YOU THE RIGHT
00:40:24.290 --> 00:40:26.120
ANSWER.
00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:27.010
THE RIGHT ANSWER WHEN GOD ASKS
00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:28.160
YOU, 'WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO
00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:29.080
MY HEAVEN?'
00:40:29.080 --> 00:40:30.040
IS BECAUSE 'I HAVE PUT MY TRUST
00:40:30.040 --> 00:40:31.200
IN YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST,
00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:33.010
ALONE, FOR ETERNAL LIFE.' THAT'S
00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:34.170
THE ONLY ANSWER."
00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:35.150
[APPLAUSE]
00:40:37.010 --> 00:40:40.010
- MATT: OKAY, AND IS THERE
00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:42.020
ANYTHING TO SAY-- I MEAN, I'VE
00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:45.260
HEARD THE ADAGE, "NOBODY EVER
00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:47.110
BECAME A BELIEVER BECAUSE THEY
00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:48.190
LOST THE ARGUMENT," AND ISN'T IT
00:40:48.190 --> 00:40:50.100
THE HOLY SPIRIT'S JOB TO DRAW--
00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:53.070
YOU KNOW, AND SO, AT SOME POINT,
00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:55.140
ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK THEM?
00:40:56.220 --> 00:40:59.220
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT
00:40:59.220 --> 00:41:01.010
IT?
00:41:01.010 --> 00:41:02.050
- DAVID: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT,
00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:03.130
MATT?
00:41:03.130 --> 00:41:04.010
YOU DO MORE THAN ASK.
00:41:04.010 --> 00:41:04.230
YOU HAVE A SEARCH LIGHT THAT'S,
00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:06.140
JUST, GOING ALL ACROSS THE
00:41:06.140 --> 00:41:09.100
WORLD, EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY,
00:41:09.100 --> 00:41:11.200
ASKING, SHARING THE GOSPEL,
00:41:11.230 --> 00:41:14.230
MAKING THE MESSAGE KNOWN TO SO
00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:16.220
MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD NEVER,
00:41:16.220 --> 00:41:17.140
EVER HEAR.
00:41:17.140 --> 00:41:18.230
I'VE MET SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE IN
00:41:18.230 --> 00:41:20.000
SOUTH AFRICA AND IN JERUSALEM,
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.150
AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE
00:41:22.150 --> 00:41:23.130
WORLD.
00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:24.030
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE MESSAGE TO
00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:25.260
THE PEOPLE.
00:41:25.260 --> 00:41:27.050
THAT'S OUR CALLING.
00:41:27.050 --> 00:41:29.030
THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE TO GO INTO
00:41:29.030 --> 00:41:30.190
ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE
00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:31.090
GOSPEL.
00:41:31.090 --> 00:41:32.080
WE CAN'T EFFECT THAT.
00:41:32.080 --> 00:41:33.260
WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK, BUT WE
00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:34.220
HAVE TO GO, AND YOUR DAD AND MOM
00:41:34.220 --> 00:41:36.000
UNDERSTOOD THAT.
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:36.270
YOUR DAD ESPECIALLY TOLD ME MANY
00:41:36.270 --> 00:41:38.110
TIMES THAT HE WANTED TO REACH
00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:40.110
THE WHOLE WORLD BEFORE HE DIED.
00:41:45.050 --> 00:41:48.050
- LAURIE: YES.
00:41:48.050 --> 00:41:48.220
- MATT: YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A
00:41:48.220 --> 00:41:49.140
SIGNAL PLACED EVERYWHERE IN THE
00:41:49.140 --> 00:41:50.090
WORLD, BUT UNTIL THERE IS A
00:41:50.090 --> 00:41:52.000
DR. JEREMIAH WILLING TO EXPLAIN
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.230
THE VERY SIMPLE TRUTH OF HEAVEN
00:41:53.230 --> 00:41:55.110
AND HELL AND WRITE A BOOK LIKE
00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:57.220
YOU CAN HAVE THE BIGGEST
00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:01.240
DISTRIBUTION PLATFORM IN THE
00:42:01.240 --> 00:42:02.150
WORLD, BUT IF NOBODY IS EVER
00:42:02.150 --> 00:42:04.260
BEING CONFRONTED WITH THE ISSUE
00:42:04.260 --> 00:42:06.020
OF ETERNITY ON IT, WE'RE NOT
00:42:06.020 --> 00:42:08.190
DOIN' ANY GOOD.
00:42:08.190 --> 00:42:09.210
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT
00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:10.260
HERE ON THIS BROADCAST.
00:42:10.260 --> 00:42:12.020
- DAVID: AND THAT'S WHY I WANNA
00:42:12.020 --> 00:42:13.120
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS
00:42:13.120 --> 00:42:14.150
OPPORTUNITY.
00:42:14.150 --> 00:42:15.120
I JUST AM SO OVERWHELMED TO MEET
00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:18.010
PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD
00:42:18.010 --> 00:42:20.150
WHO WATCH "TURNING POINT" ON TBN
00:42:20.150 --> 00:42:22.150
AND TELL ME HOW GOD HAS USED IT.
00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:25.100
I WAS IN A LITTLE JEWELRY STORE.
00:42:25.250 --> 00:42:28.250
I'M SORRY TO SAY MY WIFE LOVES
00:42:28.250 --> 00:42:30.180
[LAUGHTER]
00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:33.100
- LAURIE: THAT'S OKAY!
00:42:33.100 --> 00:42:33.280
- DAVID: AND WE WERE IN THIS
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:34.190
LITTLE JEWELRY STORE IN AN
00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:35.230
ISLAND, AND A VERY ISOLATED
00:42:35.230 --> 00:42:36.270
- LAURIE: HIGHWAY ROBBERY.
00:42:40.020 --> 00:42:40.260
- DAVID: YES, AND THE ONLY
00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:41.230
THING ON THAT ISLAND WERE
00:42:41.230 --> 00:42:42.200
JEWELRY STORES.
00:42:42.200 --> 00:42:43.270
I MEAN, I'M NOT KIDDIN' YA.
00:42:43.270 --> 00:42:45.240
WE WERE IN THAT STORE, AND I
00:42:45.240 --> 00:42:46.180
WALKED IN.
00:42:46.180 --> 00:42:48.070
IT WAS TOTALLY WAY OUT, AWAY
00:42:48.070 --> 00:42:50.050
FROM EVERYTHING, AND THE GUY
00:42:50.050 --> 00:42:51.190
LOOKED AT ME, AND HE SAID, "ARE
00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:52.210
YOU DAVID JEREMIAH?"
00:42:52.210 --> 00:42:54.050
- LAURIE: OH, MY GOODNESS!
00:42:54.050 --> 00:42:54.250
- DAVID: AND I SAID, "YES."
00:42:54.250 --> 00:42:55.160
HE SAID,
00:42:55.160 --> 00:42:57.060
"WE HAVE A SATELLITE DISH
00:42:57.060 --> 00:42:58.090
ON TOP OF OUR HOUSE, AND WE
00:42:58.090 --> 00:42:59.100
WATCH YOU EVERY SUNDAY."
00:42:59.100 --> 00:43:00.290
- MATT: WOW.
00:43:00.290 --> 00:43:01.160
- DAVID: I WAS IN SOUTH AFRICA
00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.150
WE WENT TO A PLACE TO HELP PLANT
00:43:10.040 --> 00:43:10.260
GARDENS, TOOK SOME PEOPLE FROM
00:43:10.260 --> 00:43:11.240
OUR CHURCH, AND I'LL NEVER
00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:14.220
FORGET THIS: THEY DON'T READ OR
00:43:14.220 --> 00:43:15.160
WRITE.
00:43:15.160 --> 00:43:17.150
THEY'RE VERY POOR.
00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:18.010
THE PASTORS ASKED ME TO COME AND
00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:20.180
TALK TO THEM, AND SO I DID.
00:43:20.290 --> 00:43:23.290
I SAID, "WELL, HOW DO YOU PREACH
00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:24.210
IF YOU DON'T READ, YOU DON'T
00:43:24.210 --> 00:43:25.160
WRITE?"
00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:26.180
AND THEY SAID TO ME,
00:43:26.180 --> 00:43:28.150
"DR. JEREMIAH, WE WATCH YOU ON
00:43:28.150 --> 00:43:30.000
TBN EVERY SUNDAY,
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.170
AND THEN WE TRY TO GO TELL OUR
00:43:31.170 --> 00:43:32.280
PEOPLE WHAT YOU SAID.
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.100
- MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:34.290
- DAVID: I WAS BROKEN.
00:43:34.290 --> 00:43:36.110
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE
00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:39.210
GOSPEL GETS TO PEOPLE ONE WAY OR
00:43:39.210 --> 00:43:41.040
THE OTHER.
00:43:41.040 --> 00:43:42.080
THERE HAS TO BE PREACHER, BUT
00:43:42.080 --> 00:43:44.260
THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO CONVEY
00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:45.180
THE MESSAGE, AND THAT'S WHY
00:43:45.180 --> 00:43:46.290
WE'RE IN PARTNERSHIP.
00:43:46.290 --> 00:43:47.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:43:47.290 --> 00:43:48.140
- LAURIE: YEAH, THE OTHER DAY,
00:43:48.140 --> 00:43:50.200
WE WERE IN FIJI, AND WE'RE DOING
00:43:50.200 --> 00:43:53.070
CHRISTIAN TELEVISION NOW THERE
00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:54.150
IN FIJI, AND THEY SAID, "THAT'S
00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:57.030
THE WAY WE LEARNED HOW TO PREACH
00:43:57.030 --> 00:43:59.120
IS BY WATCHING YOUR PASTORS ON
00:43:59.120 --> 00:44:00.210
TV.
00:44:00.210 --> 00:44:02.260
THAT'S HOW WE LEARNED HOW TO DO
00:44:02.260 --> 00:44:04.070
IT."
00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:06.080
- MATT: WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD
00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:07.150
THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD.
00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:08.140
- LAURIE: YEAH, IT'S AMAZING.
00:44:08.140 --> 00:44:09.230
- MATT: AFTER 45 YEARS OF DOING
00:44:09.230 --> 00:44:12.120
CHRISTIAN TELEVISION, YOU KNOW,
00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:15.150
WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, LAURIE
00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:17.100
AND I, WHO KNOWS, BEEN IN 70 OR
00:44:17.100 --> 00:44:19.040
100 COUNTRIES, AND WE HAVE ASKED
00:44:19.040 --> 00:44:20.100
MANY TIMES TO PLACES LIKE AFRICA
00:44:23.140 --> 00:44:26.140
OR IN, YOU KNOW, EASTERN EUROPE,
00:44:26.150 --> 00:44:29.150
"DO YOU WANT PROGRAMS FROM THE
00:44:30.060 --> 00:44:33.060
WEST, OR WOULD YOU RATHER US PUT
00:44:33.060 --> 00:44:35.260
JUST LOCAL AFRICAN MINISTERS?"
00:44:38.200 --> 00:44:41.200
AND, "NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,
00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:42.110
NO, DON'T DO THAT, DON'T DO THAT
00:44:42.110 --> 00:44:43.150
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT AMERICA
00:44:43.150 --> 00:44:46.100
WAS RAISED UP, AND THERE ARE THE
00:44:46.100 --> 00:44:48.090
MINISTERS OF AMERICA THAT WE
00:44:49.010 --> 00:44:52.010
WANT TO SEE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE
00:44:52.040 --> 00:44:55.040
THAT THE BEST BIBLE TEACHING AND
00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:56.230
THE BEST PREACHING COMES, YOU
00:44:56.230 --> 00:44:57.210
KNOW, FROM AMERICA.
00:44:57.210 --> 00:45:00.040
YOU WERE RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN
00:45:00.040 --> 00:45:01.080
NATION."
00:45:01.080 --> 00:45:01.250
THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE FREEDOM
00:45:01.250 --> 00:45:04.110
HERE AND THAT OUR PASTORS AREN'T
00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:05.280
TRYING TO KEEP FROM BEING
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.020
ARRESTED, OUR PASTORS ARE
00:45:08.020 --> 00:45:09.130
GETTING TO STUDY THE WORD,
00:45:09.130 --> 00:45:10.110
YOU KNOW?
00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:12.010
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME MINISTRIES
00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:14.080
IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE
00:45:14.080 --> 00:45:15.290
WORLD, THEY WOULD NEVER WANT US
00:45:15.290 --> 00:45:17.130
TO TAKE DR. JEREMIAH AND T.D.
00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:19.030
JAKES AND JOYCE MEYER AND SOME
00:45:19.030 --> 00:45:20.210
OF THESE BROADCASTS OFF THE AIR
00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:22.270
AND JUST REPLACE IT WITH LOCAL
00:45:22.270 --> 00:45:24.290
CONTENT.
00:45:24.290 --> 00:45:26.170
AND SO WE'VE KNOWN FOR MANY,
00:45:26.170 --> 00:45:29.060
MANY YEARS THAT THE MINISTRIES
00:45:29.070 --> 00:45:32.070
OF TBN AND THE MINISTERS THAT
00:45:32.100 --> 00:45:35.100
ARE ON TBN AND ESPECIALLY-- LET
00:45:35.100 --> 00:45:37.150
ME JUST BRAG ON YOU FOR A
00:45:37.150 --> 00:45:38.100
SECOND.
00:45:38.100 --> 00:45:39.060
YOU HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST
00:45:39.070 --> 00:45:42.070
RATINGS ON TRINITY BROADCASTING
00:45:42.070 --> 00:45:44.250
THAT THERE ARE.
00:45:44.250 --> 00:45:46.090
YOUR BROADCAST IS, YOU KNOW,
00:45:46.130 --> 00:45:49.130
99% OF THE TIME IN THE TOP FIVE
00:45:49.130 --> 00:45:51.030
OF MINISTERS, AND SO YOU'RE NOT
00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:55.040
GETTIN' OLDER EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE
00:45:55.040 --> 00:45:56.220
GETTIN' BETTER, OKAY?
00:45:56.220 --> 00:45:58.080
AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
00:45:58.080 --> 00:46:00.170
THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE WATCHING
00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:01.290
YOU ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND
00:46:01.290 --> 00:46:03.170
YOU'RE SUCH AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO
00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:04.240
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE
00:46:04.240 --> 00:46:05.160
WORLD.
00:46:05.160 --> 00:46:07.030
- LAURIE: WHY SHOULDN'T-- YOU
00:46:07.030 --> 00:46:08.140
ONE OF THE GUYS THAT WAS ON ONE
00:46:11.120 --> 00:46:12.040
OF THOSE THINGS WE WERE JUST
00:46:12.040 --> 00:46:12.240
WATCHIN', SAID "OH, I BELIEVE IN
00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:14.030
HEAVEN, BUT MAYBE THAT'S IN THE
00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:15.190
FUTURE," AND PEOPLE PUTTING OFF
00:46:15.190 --> 00:46:18.000
THEIR DECISION TO KNOW THE LORD
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:19.280
BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY HAVE
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:20.210
TIME.
00:46:20.210 --> 00:46:22.230
- DAVID: YOU KNOW, I DISCOVERED
00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:26.010
SOMETHING, LAURIE, ABOUT 2 YEARS
00:46:26.010 --> 00:46:26.270
AGO, AND I PROBABLY SAID IT MORE
00:46:26.270 --> 00:46:28.020
TIMES THAN MY CHURCH WOULD LIKE
00:46:28.020 --> 00:46:29.150
ME TO SAY IT, AND HERE'S WHAT IT
00:46:29.150 --> 00:46:30.070
IS: THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN GOD
00:46:30.120 --> 00:46:33.120
TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND
00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:34.030
WHEN YOU DO IT, DOES NOT BELONG
00:46:34.030 --> 00:46:35.070
TO YOU.
00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:36.180
IT BELONGS TO THE DEVIL.
00:46:36.180 --> 00:46:39.030
WHEN GOD TELLS YOU TO-- WHEN YOU
00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:40.020
GET A MESSAGE IN YOUR HEART THAT
00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:42.080
GOD IS CALLING YOU AND THAT YOU
00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:43.250
NEED TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN, WHEN
00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:44.200
YOU POSTPONE THAT, THE TIME
00:46:44.200 --> 00:46:46.020
BETWEEN WHEN YOU HEAR THAT
00:46:46.020 --> 00:46:48.010
MESSAGE AND WHEN YOU ULTIMATELY
00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:49.170
DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT, THE
00:46:49.170 --> 00:46:50.250
ENEMY IS GONNA USE THAT TIME,
00:46:50.250 --> 00:46:52.250
ANY WAY HE CAN, TO KEEP YOU FROM
00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:54.280
MAKING THE DECISION.
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.130
THE BIBLE SAYS, "TODAY IS THE
00:46:56.130 --> 00:46:58.160
DAY OF SALVATION.
00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:00.290
NOW IS THE TIME TO RECEIVE."
00:47:00.290 --> 00:47:03.180
SO IF YOU'RE WATCHING TODAY AND
00:47:03.180 --> 00:47:04.110
YOU'RE LISTENING AND YOU WANNA
00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:05.290
GO TO HEAVEN AND YOU'RE SAYING,
00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:06.210
"WELL, I'M GONNA THINK ABOUT
00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:07.150
IT," OR SOME PEOPLE SAY, "WELL,
00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:08.070
WHEN I GET CLOSE TO MY END OF MY
00:47:08.070 --> 00:47:11.040
LIFE--" WHAT AN ARROGANT THING
00:47:11.040 --> 00:47:13.000
TO SAY THAT PERHAPS YOU HAVE-- I
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.070
MEAN, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE
00:47:15.070 --> 00:47:17.280
STORY.
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.270
I HAVE A DOCTOR WHO OPERATED ON
00:47:18.270 --> 00:47:20.000
MY KNEES.
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.080
I HAD BOTH OF MY KNEES REPLACED
00:47:21.080 --> 00:47:22.000
ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO.
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.210
HE'S A BRILLIANT MAN, AND HE
00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:24.110
LIVES IN ALABAMA.
00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:27.000
HE WENT TO THE DOCTOR'S A WEEK
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.140
AGO AND IN GREAT HEALTH, 46
00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:32.150
YEARS OF AGE, AND HE DIED
00:47:32.150 --> 00:47:34.070
YESTERDAY--
00:47:34.070 --> 00:47:36.120
- MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:47:36.120 --> 00:47:37.190
- DAVID: -- OF A SEVERE CASE OF
00:47:37.190 --> 00:47:38.110
LEUKEMIA.
00:47:38.110 --> 00:47:39.280
NOW, DO YOU THINK THAT MAN WOKE
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:40.200
UP AND THOUGHT THAT HE WAS--
00:47:40.200 --> 00:47:42.040
THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN?
00:47:42.040 --> 00:47:43.100
AND NEITHER DID HIS FAMILY;
00:47:43.100 --> 00:47:44.270
NEITHER DID ANY OF US WHO LOVED
00:47:44.270 --> 00:47:45.240
HIM.
00:47:45.240 --> 00:47:47.200
LIFE IS UNCERTAIN, AND SO IF GOD
00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:49.150
IS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT YOUR
00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:51.190
SOUL AND ABOUT GOIN' TO HEAVEN,
00:47:51.190 --> 00:47:53.150
TOMORROW ISN'T THE TIME TO DO
00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:55.030
IT.
00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:56.090
TONIGHT IS THE TIME TO DO IT
00:47:56.090 --> 00:47:57.200
BECAUSE GOD IS TALKING TO YOU
00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.290
NOW.
00:47:58.290 --> 00:47:59.260
- MATT: WOW.
00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:01.280
[APPLAUSE]
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.210
JUST TAKE ANOTHER MOMENT,
00:48:04.210 --> 00:48:05.290
AND IF SOMEBODY JUST TUNED
00:48:05.290 --> 00:48:08.050
IN AND THEY WANNA RESPOND
00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:11.030
TO THAT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TALKIN'
00:48:11.030 --> 00:48:12.200
ABOUT HEAVEN--
00:48:12.200 --> 00:48:13.130
- LAURIE: TALKIN' ABOUT THE
00:48:13.130 --> 00:48:14.170
MOST IMPORTANT DECISION IN YOUR
00:48:14.170 --> 00:48:15.090
LIFE.
00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:16.040
- MATT: YEAH, WE NEED TO MAKE
00:48:16.040 --> 00:48:16.280
SURE-- SOMETIMES THEY WANNA PRAY
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:17.260
A PRAYER.
00:48:17.260 --> 00:48:19.140
JUST DO A PRAYER AND, YOU KNOW,
00:48:19.140 --> 00:48:20.060
EVEN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'LL
00:48:20.060 --> 00:48:21.110
REPEAT IT WITH YOU, SO JUST A
00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:22.260
SHORT PRAYER 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I
00:48:22.260 --> 00:48:24.150
KNOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE
00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:26.260
AUDIENCE, AND THEY NEED TO GET
00:48:27.090 --> 00:48:30.090
SAVED SO-- [LAUGHTER] AND SO I
00:48:30.090 --> 00:48:31.200
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, JUST MAKE
00:48:31.200 --> 00:48:32.120
SURE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW,
00:48:32.120 --> 00:48:33.230
WOULD YOU, PLEASE?
00:48:33.230 --> 00:48:35.240
- DAVID: ALL RIGHT.
00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:36.100
JUST SIMPLY PRAY THIS PRAYER:
00:48:36.100 --> 00:48:38.180
"DEAR GOD, I WANT TO GO TO
00:48:38.180 --> 00:48:41.040
HEAVEN WHEN I DIE, AND YOU'VE
00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:42.180
TOLD ME IN YOUR BOOK THERE'S
00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:46.150
ONLY ONE WAY, AND THAT'S TO
00:48:47.250 --> 00:48:50.250
PLACE MY FAITH IN YOUR SON,
00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:52.170
JESUS CHRIST.
00:48:53.220 --> 00:48:56.220
AND SO TODAY I MAKE THAT
00:48:56.220 --> 00:48:58.190
DECISION.
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.000
I DECIDE TO TRUST JESUS CHRIST
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.070
ALONE FOR ETERNAL LIFE.
00:49:08.160 --> 00:49:11.160
JESUS, YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE OF
00:49:11.160 --> 00:49:13.060
HEAVEN, AND I BELIEVE IN YOU,
00:49:15.080 --> 00:49:18.080
AND I ACCEPT YOU AS MY SAVIOR.
00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:20.000
PLEASE FORGIVE MY SIN.
00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:24.130
GIVE ME A CLEAN HEART, AND I
00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:27.030
WILL LIVE FOR YOU FOR THE REST
00:49:27.030 --> 00:49:28.070
OF MY LIFE.
00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:29.010
THANK YOU, LORD."
00:49:29.030 --> 00:49:32.030
- MATT: AMEN.
00:49:32.030 --> 00:49:33.220
- DAVID: AMEN.
00:49:33.220 --> 00:49:34.100
- MATT: WOW!
00:49:34.100 --> 00:49:36.040
YOU'RE ALL GETTIN' TO GO TO
00:49:36.040 --> 00:49:36.240
HEAVEN NOW!
00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:37.180
COME ON, NOW!
00:49:37.180 --> 00:49:38.030
AND WE ARE REVEALING THOSE
00:49:41.130 --> 00:49:42.020
MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN.
00:49:42.020 --> 00:49:44.070
ALL MONTH OF JULY, IT'S OUR
00:49:44.070 --> 00:49:47.060
OFFER.
00:49:47.060 --> 00:49:48.050
- FEMALE: IS THERE A HEAVEN?
00:49:51.100 --> 00:49:52.090
- MALE: WILL I SEE FAMILY
00:49:52.090 --> 00:49:53.000
MEMBERS?
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:54.130
- MALE: WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
00:49:54.130 --> 00:49:55.060
- FEMALE: IS THERE GONNA BE AN
00:49:55.060 --> 00:49:55.280
- MALE ANNOUNCER: THE ANSWER TO
00:49:57.260 --> 00:49:58.180
THESE QUESTIONS ARE UNCOVERED IN
00:49:58.180 --> 00:50:00.010
DAVID JEREMIAH'S NEW BOOK,
00:50:00.010 --> 00:50:01.210
"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:02.170
HEAVEN."
00:50:02.170 --> 00:50:04.180
SO AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANKS
00:50:04.180 --> 00:50:06.030
FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT
00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:08.080
THIS MONTH, WE WANT TO SEND YOU
00:50:08.080 --> 00:50:09.160
YOUR OWN COPY; AND FOR YOUR
00:50:09.160 --> 00:50:11.170
SPECIAL GIFT OF $70 OR MORE,
00:50:11.170 --> 00:50:13.120
WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE
00:50:13.120 --> 00:50:14.250
DR. JEREMIAH'S THREE-BOOK
00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:16.240
"ANSWERS COLLECTION."
00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:18.100
IN THESE UNIQUE, PROMISE-FILLED
00:50:18.100 --> 00:50:19.250
BOOKS, YOU'LL DISCOVER CONCRETE,
00:50:19.250 --> 00:50:21.180
BIBLICAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
00:50:21.180 --> 00:50:23.200
ABOUT PROPHECY, HEAVEN, AND
00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:25.250
SPIRITUAL WARFARE; OR FOR YOUR
00:50:25.250 --> 00:50:28.030
GENEROUS GIFT OF $200 OR MORE IN
00:50:28.030 --> 00:50:30.000
SUPPORT OF TBN, WE'LL SEND ALL
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.250
THESE RESOURCES, PLUS THE
00:50:32.250 --> 00:50:35.160
"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:50:35.160 --> 00:50:37.040
HEAVEN," FIVE-CD AND SIX-DVD
00:50:37.040 --> 00:50:38.010
SET.
00:50:38.080 --> 00:50:41.080
THIS COMPREHENSIVE, STEP-BY-STEP
00:50:41.080 --> 00:50:42.140
TEACHING EXPLORES THE
00:50:42.140 --> 00:50:44.110
OFTEN-HIDDEN TRUTHS IN SCRIPTURE
00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:46.280
ABOUT THE GLORY OF HEAVEN AND
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.220
WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU GET
00:50:48.220 --> 00:50:50.100
THERE.
00:50:50.100 --> 00:50:52.190
- DAVID: AND SO IF YOU WERE TO
00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:53.110
SEE IT FROM AFAR, IT WOULD JUST
00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:54.070
SPARKLE AND SHINE AS IT TURNED
00:50:54.070 --> 00:50:56.250
AROUND, AND ALL THE HUES OF THE
00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:58.040
GLORY OF THE CITY WOULD BE SO
00:50:58.040 --> 00:50:58.260
OVERWHELMING.
00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:00.110
IT WOULD TAKE YOUR BREATH AWAY.
00:51:00.110 --> 00:51:01.260
- ANNOUNCER: FOR MORE THAN 40
00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:03.130
YEARS, TBN PARTNERS HAVE SHARED
00:51:03.130 --> 00:51:05.000
JESUS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:06.160
TO THE FAR CORNERS OF THE WORLD.
00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:08.150
YOUR FAITHFUL SUPPORT OF THIS
00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:10.200
EVER-EXPANDING GLOBAL OUTREACH
00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:12.230
ENSURES THAT, ONE BY ONE, LOST
00:51:12.230 --> 00:51:15.010
SOULS CAN BE SAVED AND NEW
00:51:15.010 --> 00:51:17.190
BELIEVERS DISCIPLED IN GOD'S
00:51:17.190 --> 00:51:18.200
WORD.
00:51:18.200 --> 00:51:20.170
CALL 800-201-5200, OR GO
00:51:21.060 --> 00:51:24.060
SECURELY ONLINE TO
00:51:24.060 --> 00:51:25.180
TBN.ORG/GIVING, TO CHOOSE YOUR
00:51:26.100 --> 00:51:29.100
LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND RECEIVE
00:51:29.100 --> 00:51:31.020
YOUR COPY OF "REVEALING THE
00:51:31.020 --> 00:51:33.110
MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN," OR THE
00:51:33.110 --> 00:51:34.210
"ANSWERS" BOOK COLLECTION, OR
00:51:35.080 --> 00:51:38.080
THE COMPLETE BUNDLE, FEATURING
00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:40.110
THE "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:51:40.110 --> 00:51:42.020
HEAVEN," FIVE-CD AND SIX-DVD
00:51:42.020 --> 00:51:43.000
SET.
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:44.210
DISCOVER THE MYSTERIES OF
00:51:44.210 --> 00:51:46.020
- MATT: WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT
00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:53.110
HEAVEN!
00:51:53.110 --> 00:51:53.220
THAT'S WHAT WE DO AROUND HERE.
00:51:53.220 --> 00:51:54.270
AND, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU GIVE
00:51:55.020 --> 00:51:58.020
YOU KNOW, KEEP SATELLITES,
00:52:01.100 --> 00:52:01.290
PREACHING THE GOSPEL.
00:52:01.290 --> 00:52:03.260
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:05.110
THIS BOOK ISN'T A $200 BOOK OR
00:52:05.110 --> 00:52:07.060
THAT WHOLE PACKAGE, YOU KNOW.
00:52:07.060 --> 00:52:08.160
THAT IS YOUR WAY OF HELPING
00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:11.160
SPREAD THE GOSPEL AROUND THE
00:52:11.160 --> 00:52:14.050
WORLD, SO THAT REWARD THING THAT
00:52:14.050 --> 00:52:16.220
WE WERE TALKIN' ABOUT EARLIER,
00:52:16.220 --> 00:52:17.130
YOU SHARE IN THAT REWARD.
00:52:17.130 --> 00:52:19.170
SO WHEN YOU CALL, YOU'RE
00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:22.000
SUPPORTING CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.020
YOU'RE NOT JUST GETTING THIS
00:52:23.020 --> 00:52:24.030
BOOK.
00:52:24.030 --> 00:52:24.270
BUT, GRANDMA, GET THIS BOOK AND
00:52:24.270 --> 00:52:25.260
GIVE IT-- YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO
00:52:25.260 --> 00:52:28.240
YOUR FAMILY, YOUR SON, YOUR
00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:32.140
DAUGHTER, YOUR GRANDKIDS.
00:52:32.140 --> 00:52:33.130
SEND IT TO SOMEBODY.
00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:35.080
IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, GIVE IT TO
00:52:35.080 --> 00:52:36.040
THE CRANKY NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR,
00:52:36.040 --> 00:52:37.060
YOU KNOW?
00:52:37.060 --> 00:52:38.270
[LAUGHTER]
00:52:38.270 --> 00:52:39.160
- LAURIE: STICK IT IN THEIR
00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:40.060
MAILBOX!
00:52:40.060 --> 00:52:40.200
- MATT: YEAH, JUST GIVE IT
00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:41.250
AWAY, BUT YOU'RE SUPPORTING
00:52:41.250 --> 00:52:43.180
CHRISTIAN TELEVISION WHEN YOU DO
00:52:43.180 --> 00:52:44.180
THAT.
00:52:44.180 --> 00:52:45.120
I NOTICED ON THE-- LET ME SAY
00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:47.080
THIS: I NOTICED ONE OF THE SHOTS
00:52:47.080 --> 00:52:48.100
THERE, WE WERE IN LAHORE,
00:52:48.100 --> 00:52:50.020
PAKISTAN.
00:52:50.020 --> 00:52:52.230
THINK ABOUT IT, PARTNERS.
00:52:52.230 --> 00:52:53.120
WE HAVE A COMPLETE URDU LANGUAGE
00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:56.250
NETWORK, 24 HOURS A DAY, ON THE
00:52:56.250 --> 00:52:59.200
AIR, PREACHING TO THOSE PEOPLE
00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:02.080
THAT ONLY UNDERSTAND URDU.
00:53:02.080 --> 00:53:04.020
MOST OF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT
00:53:04.020 --> 00:53:05.210
THERE WAS AN URDU LANGUAGE.
00:53:05.210 --> 00:53:07.280
OKAY, 300 MILLION PEOPLE IN
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.270
NORTHERN INDIA, PAKISTAN,
00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:12.020
AFGHANISTAN, SPEAK URDU.
00:53:12.020 --> 00:53:14.110
WE JUST HEARD THIS WEEK-- WE'RE
00:53:14.110 --> 00:53:17.110
IN THE MONTH OF JULY 2017-- GOT
00:53:17.110 --> 00:53:19.020
AN E-MAIL FROM BOB FOPMA, OUR
00:53:21.120 --> 00:53:24.120
COO AROUND HERE, THAT WE NOW
00:53:24.120 --> 00:53:26.240
HAVE A PARTNERED NETWORK IN
00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:28.280
BULGARIA WITH A LICENSE, 24
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.200
HOURS A DAY, FOR THE ENTIRE
00:53:31.200 --> 00:53:32.290
COUNTRY IN THE BULGARIAN
00:53:32.290 --> 00:53:34.160
LANGUAGE.
00:53:35.200 --> 00:53:38.200
[APPLAUSE]
00:53:38.200 --> 00:53:39.130
AND SO THE IDEA THAT
00:53:39.130 --> 00:53:39.290
THERE ARE NOW SOME 13 OR 14
00:53:39.290 --> 00:53:42.270
LANGUAGE NETWORKS GOING AROUND
00:53:42.270 --> 00:53:43.250
THE WORLD, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
00:53:43.250 --> 00:53:46.010
SELL YOU A BOOK.
00:53:46.010 --> 00:53:48.120
WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE YOU
00:53:48.120 --> 00:53:49.200
WITH THIS GREAT CONTENT.
00:53:49.200 --> 00:53:50.270
YOU'RE HELPING CHRISTIAN
00:53:50.270 --> 00:53:52.210
TELEVISION GO AROUND THE WORLD
00:53:52.210 --> 00:53:54.280
BY CALLING THAT NUMBER ON THE
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.140
SCREEN.
00:53:56.220 --> 00:53:59.220
- LAURIE: AND I WAS READING
00:53:59.220 --> 00:54:00.180
TODAY THAT 250.000 PEOPLE DIE A
00:54:00.180 --> 00:54:01.150
DAY.
00:54:01.150 --> 00:54:03.060
- DAVID: THAT'S RIGHT.
00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:03.240
- MATT: A DAY.
00:54:03.240 --> 00:54:04.080
- LAURIE: A DAY.
00:54:04.080 --> 00:54:04.230
THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO HEAVEN,
00:54:04.230 --> 00:54:06.020
OR THEY'RE GOING TO HELL.
00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:07.090
- DAVID: RIGHT.
00:54:07.090 --> 00:54:07.230
- LAURIE: AT 200-- THAT'S A
00:54:07.230 --> 00:54:09.230
QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE A
00:54:09.230 --> 00:54:10.140
DAY, DYING.
00:54:10.140 --> 00:54:11.200
- DAVID: THAT'S RIGHT.
00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:12.140
AND THAT'S MORE THAN LIVE IN
00:54:12.140 --> 00:54:13.250
MANY OF THE LITTLE VILLAGES AND
00:54:13.250 --> 00:54:14.170
CITIES WHERE WE LIVE.
00:54:14.170 --> 00:54:15.290
WHOLE CITIES DIE IN ONE DAY.
00:54:15.290 --> 00:54:17.120
- LAURIE: ISN'T THAT SOMETHIN'?
00:54:17.120 --> 00:54:18.070
SO NOW THAT EVERYONE THAT'S
00:54:18.070 --> 00:54:19.170
WATCHING TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY
00:54:19.170 --> 00:54:21.070
GOING TO HEAVEN, WHAT...
00:54:21.070 --> 00:54:23.040
- MATT: WELL, WHAT DO WE NEED
00:54:23.170 --> 00:54:26.170
TO THINK ABOUT IN JUST YOUR
00:54:26.170 --> 00:54:28.190
FINAL THOUGHTS HERE?
00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:29.050
WE GOT A LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES.
00:54:29.050 --> 00:54:29.280
- DAVID: YEAH, LET ME JUST JUMP
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:30.200
IN HERE AND SAY, ONE OF THE
00:54:30.200 --> 00:54:31.130
THINGS PEOPLE SAY ABOUT HEAVEN
00:54:31.130 --> 00:54:33.100
IS "WELL, YOU'RE JUST LIVIN' IN
00:54:33.100 --> 00:54:35.060
THE FOREVER, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE
00:54:35.060 --> 00:54:36.220
LIVIN' IN-- ON THIS EARTH.
00:54:36.220 --> 00:54:37.260
WHY SHOULD WE SPEND ALL OUR
00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:39.050
TIME--" LISTEN TO ME: EVERY
00:54:39.050 --> 00:54:41.180
PASSAGE, ALMOST, IN THE BIBLE
00:54:41.180 --> 00:54:43.030
THAT SPEAKS ABOUT HEAVEN, HAS A
00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:45.110
PRACTICAL APPLICATION FOR TODAY.
00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:46.240
FOR INSTANCE, THE PASSAGE I'VE
00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:48.070
BEEN QUOTING TONIGHT, IT SAYS,
00:54:48.070 --> 00:54:50.200
"IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE ARE MANY
00:54:50.200 --> 00:54:51.150
MANSIONS," DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT
00:54:51.150 --> 00:54:52.260
PASSAGE STARTS?
00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:54.080
"LET NOT YOUR HEART BE
00:54:54.080 --> 00:54:55.050
TROUBLED."
00:54:55.050 --> 00:54:56.000
- MATT: WOW.
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:56.160
- DAVID: YOU KNOW, EVERY
00:54:56.160 --> 00:54:57.250
PASSAGE LIKE THAT, THE PASSAGE
00:54:57.250 --> 00:54:58.250
ABOUT GOIN' TO CHURCH, IN
00:54:58.250 --> 00:54:59.150
HEBREWS SAYS, "AND FORSAKE NOT
00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:01.290
THE ASSEMBLING OF YOURSELVES
00:55:01.290 --> 00:55:03.180
TOGETHER, AS THE MANNER OF SOME
00:55:03.180 --> 00:55:04.220
IS, AND SO MUCH THE MORE, AS YOU
00:55:04.220 --> 00:55:07.050
SEE THE DAY APPROACHING."
00:55:07.050 --> 00:55:08.020
IN OTHER WORDS,
00:55:08.020 --> 00:55:09.170
EVERY PLACE YOU SEE PROPHECY
00:55:09.170 --> 00:55:11.220
ABOUT HEAVEN, PROPHECY
00:55:11.220 --> 00:55:12.250
ABOUT THE FUTURE, IF YOU JUST
00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:14.060
LOOK, YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE
00:55:14.060 --> 00:55:15.290
NUGGET IN THAT PASSAGE THAT
00:55:15.290 --> 00:55:17.030
SAYS, "AND THAT'S WHAT HAS TO DO
00:55:17.030 --> 00:55:18.110
WITH TODAY."
00:55:18.110 --> 00:55:21.010
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK AROUND
00:55:21.010 --> 00:55:21.250
IN YOUR WORLD WITH A HEART FULL
00:55:21.250 --> 00:55:23.030
OF ANXIETY.
00:55:23.030 --> 00:55:25.160
IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING
00:55:25.160 --> 00:55:26.230
AND YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THERE,
00:55:26.230 --> 00:55:28.030
YOU CAN SIT BACK AND RELAX AND
00:55:28.030 --> 00:55:29.230
BE THE PERSON GOD WANTS YOU TO
00:55:29.230 --> 00:55:30.210
BE.
00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:31.070
- MATT: LOVE THAT.
00:55:31.070 --> 00:55:31.290
BEAUTIFUL!
00:55:31.290 --> 00:55:32.200
[APPLAUSE]
00:55:32.200 --> 00:55:33.200
AND, DR. JEREMIAH,
00:55:33.200 --> 00:55:35.220
YOU REALIZE YOU'RE GONNA STICK
00:55:35.220 --> 00:55:38.070
WITH US, YOU KNOW?
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YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER TIME.
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THIS IS THE FULL, SECOND
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GENERATION OF TBN, AND I, FOR
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ONE, AM SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE
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WITH US, THAT YOU'RE FOR US,
00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:50.070
THAT YOUR VOICE IS STAYING WITH
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US.
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BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU GO TO
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HEAVEN AND YOU LOOK VERY
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RADIANT, YOUR HAIR'S GONNA
00:55:54.270 --> 00:55:56.000
LOOK THE SAME, OKAY?
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I'M JUST TELLIN' YA 'CAUSE IT
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LOOKS BEAUTIFUL NOW!
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.160
- LAURIE: YOU JUST CAN'T GET
00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:01.070
ANY BETTER THAN THAT!
00:56:01.070 --> 00:56:01.240
- MATT: AND SO YOU'RE GONNA BE
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WITH US.
00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:03.000
THE SECOND GENERATION OF TBN IS
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:04.010
FULLY REALIZED HERE.
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THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US
00:56:06.170 --> 00:56:07.100
AND KEEPING YOUR VOICE HERE.
00:56:07.100 --> 00:56:09.170
- DAVID: THANK YOU FOR LETTING
00:56:09.170 --> 00:56:10.090
ME HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
00:56:10.090 --> 00:56:11.050
- MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
00:56:11.050 --> 00:56:12.050
- DAVID: AMEN.
00:56:12.050 --> 00:56:13.220
- MATT: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
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HEAVEN, AND JULY IS OUR GIFT.
00:56:15.040 --> 00:56:18.040
- LAURIE: OUR BLESSED HOPE.
00:56:18.040 --> 00:56:19.060
- MATT: LET ME JUST TELL YA
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SOMETHIN': SUPPORT CHRISTIAN
00:56:20.120 --> 00:56:21.060
TELEVISION.
00:56:21.060 --> 00:56:22.190
GET THIS GREAT CONTENT.
00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:23.170
IT'S MEANINGFUL.
00:56:23.170 --> 00:56:24.210
THAT'S WHY WE CARE ABOUT IT, AND
00:56:24.210 --> 00:56:26.010
IT'S HEAVEN.
00:56:26.010 --> 00:56:26.210
IT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT
00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:29.060
SUBJECT.
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WE'LL SEE YA NEXT TIME.
00:56:29.240 --> 00:56:30.120
THANK YOU, DR. JEREMIAH, FOR
00:56:30.120 --> 00:56:31.020
BEING WITH US.
00:56:31.020 --> 00:56:32.020
WE'LL SEE YA NEXT TIME!
00:56:32.020 --> 00:56:32.260
ANNOUNCER: WHAT WILL HEAVEN BE
00:56:50.130 --> 00:56:51.040
LIKE?
00:56:51.040 --> 00:56:52.040
THE ANSWERS TO THIS AND OTHER
00:56:52.040 --> 00:56:52.290
QUESTIONS ARE UNCOVERED IN
00:56:52.290 --> 00:56:54.060
DAVID JEREMIAH'S NEW BOOK,
00:56:54.060 --> 00:56:56.140
"REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
00:56:56.140 --> 00:56:57.040
HEAVEN."
00:56:57.040 --> 00:56:58.180
AND AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANKS
00:56:58.180 --> 00:57:00.120
FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT,
00:57:00.120 --> 00:57:01.020
WE'LL SEND YOU A COPY.
00:57:01.020 --> 00:57:03.040
- DAVID: AND SO, IF YOU WERE TO
00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:03.280
SEE IT FROM AFAR, IT WOULD
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:04.260
JUST SPARKLE AND SHINE AS IT
00:57:04.260 --> 00:57:06.050
TURNED AROUND.
00:57:06.050 --> 00:57:07.290
AND ALL THE HUES OF THE GLORY OF
00:57:07.290 --> 00:57:09.010
THE CITY WOULD BE SO
00:57:09.010 --> 00:57:09.230
OVERWHELMING, IT WOULD TAKE YOUR
00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:10.250
BREATH AWAY.
00:57:10.250 --> 00:57:13.240
- ANNOUNCER: CALL, WRITE OR GO
00:57:13.240 --> 00:57:14.160
ONLINE TO MAKE YOUR BEST GIFT,
00:57:14.160 --> 00:57:15.070
"DISCOVER THE MYSTERIES OF
00:57:15.070 --> 00:57:16.020

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