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  • ♪♪
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ONPRAISE FROM COLORADO,
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  • TEACHING MINISTER ANDHUSBAND AND WIFE AUTHOR
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  • TEAM, MAX ANDDENALYN LUCADO.
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  • ♪♪
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  • - AND NOW, MATTAND LAURIE CROUCH.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WEWELCOME YOU TO WESTERN
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  • COLORADO ALL ONE HOUR.
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  • WE HAVE THE LUCADOS.
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  • - DENALYN: YES.
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  • - THERE'S A PLURALON THE END OF THAT.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH:BOTH OF THEM.
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  • - WE HAVE TWO LUCADOS.
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  • - I LOVE IT.
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  • FINALLY.
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  • - SO MAX, AND DENALYN, FIRSTOF ALL WHAT WE WANT TO
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  • DO IS JUST POINT OUTTHIS BRAND-NEW BOOK.
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  • WE'RE GOING TO KIND OFSTART UNPACKING THIS, AND
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  • YOU ARE NEVER ALONEPROBABLY HAS MORE CONTEXTUAL
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  • RELEVANCE TO THETIMES WE'RE LIVING IN.
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  • IN OUR LIFETIMES, WE'VENEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
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  • WHAT WE'RELIVING THROUGH.
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  • WE HAVE THIS RNA VIRUSTHAT HAS CHANGED THE GLOBE.
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  • - MAX LUCADO: YEAH.
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  • - AND IT'S NEVERHAPPENED IN ANY OF
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  • OUR LIFETIMES.
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  • WE HEAR ABOUT THE 1918OUTBREAK AND ALL THAT,
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  • BUT I THINK THAT IF THEREIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
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  • DO, WE NEED TO JUST KINDOF CHAT ABOUT THIS AS A
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  • FAMILY HERE, AND FIRST OFALL, LET ME JUST SAY HOW
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  • YOU KEEP DOING THIS ISJUST A SHOCK, BUT THE
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  • TIMELINESS OF WHAT YOU'REWRITING, HOW IT HITS AT
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  • THE RIGHT TIME FOR THERIGHT REASON, RIGHT
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  • SEASON, THE WHOLE THING.
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  • THANK YOU FORWHAT YOU DO.
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  • 140 MILLION BOOKS INPRINT, MAX LUCADO,
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  • AND I UNDERSTAND THATDENALYN WRITES MOST OF
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  • YOUR STUFF.
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  • - SHE DOES.
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  • SHE DOES.
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  • - YOU PUT YOURNAME ON IT.
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  • - ALL HIS MATERIAL.
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  • - WHERE DOYOU WANT TO START?
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  • THIS IS A UNIQUE SEASONPEOPLE NEED HELP.
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  • PEOPLE NEED LOVE.
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  • - WELL, I THINK, DENALYNAND I WERE TALKING A
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  • WHILE AGO, THIS 2020SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE
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  • WE MAY BE WE MIGHT BEGOING THROUGH IT ALONE,
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  • AND OUR HOMES ARE THEONLY ONES THAT HAS ALL
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  • THE KIDS IN IT AND ALLTHE FAMILY AND GOING
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  • THROUGH THIS YEAR HASBEEN KIND OF UNBELIEVABLE
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  • FOR EVERYBODY.
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  • BUT IT'S HAPPENED TO KINDOF ALL OF US, HASN'T IT?
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  • - UH-HUH!
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  • - AND IT'S HAPPENEDIN YOUR HOUSEHOLD.
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  • - IT HAS.
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  • - SO I KNOW Y'ALL HAVEBEEN STUCK AT HOME A LOT
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  • OF THE TIMES AND PROBABLYA LOT OF THE KIDS AND THE
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  • GRAND KIDS, SO THAT TIMEHAS BEEN AMAZING, BUT HOW
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  • HAVE YOU GUYS HANDLEDTHIS YEAR DIFFERENTLY
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  • THAN ANY OTHER YEAR?
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  • - GO AHEAD.
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  • - WELL, IT'S BEEN MUCHQUIETER, AND HE'S NOT ON
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  • THE ROAD AS MUCH.
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  • HE'S AT HOME BUT HE'SSTILL MINISTERING.
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  • WE'RE STILL MINISTERING,AND YOU KNOW I THINK
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  • SOMETIMES I DOG SOCIALMEDIA AND ALL THE THINGS
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  • THAT HAPPEN ON THAT,BUT I THINK WITH SOCIAL
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  • MEDIA, WITH OUR PHONES,WITH WHAT YOU GUYS DO AT
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  • TBN THAT WE'RE ABLE TOAT LEAST ENCOURAGE
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  • ONE ANOTHER.
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  • AND I KNOW WHEN IT FIRSTSTARTED FOR ME, I WAS
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  • JUST LIKE WOW, GOD.
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  • WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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  • LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON?
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  • LIKE I WANTED TO BE RIGHTBESIDE HIM TO KNOW WHAT
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  • WAS GOING ON.
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  • LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUTHINKING, GOD?
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  • AND WHERE ARE YOU MOVING?
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  • AND I WANT TO THINKWHAT YOU'RE THINKING.
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  • HOW CAN I DO THAT?
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  • SO I WAS SO CURIOUS, ANDI STILL AM VERY CURIOUS
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  • ABOUT THINGS THAT AREGOING ON IN THE WORLD.
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  • AND IT'S NOT ALL PEACEAND QUIET OUTSIDE OF, YOU
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  • KNOW, OUR HOMES, BUT IFEEL LIKE GOD IS REALLY
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  • MOVING AND DOING THINGSIN ME PERSONALLY IN OUR
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  • HOME WITH OUR CHILDREN,BUT JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE.
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  • I FIND MYSELF WANTING TOGO --I WANT TO SEE WHAT
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  • ALL IS GOING ON, AND WECAN'T SEE EVERYTHING, BUT
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  • I TRUST THAT A LOT ISHAPPENING IN THE SPIRIT
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  • WORLD AFFECTING HERE.
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  • - IT'S CERTAINLY AWAKE-UP CALL, ISN'T IT?
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  • I MEAN, THE WHOLE WORLDHAS BEEN REMINDED HOW
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  • FRAGILE WE ARE, THAT WECAN BE BROUGHT DOWN AS A
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  • PLANET BY THISMICROSCOPIC VIRUS.
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  • MOST OF US DIDN'T EVENKNOW ABOUT IT JUST 12
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  • MONTHS AGO AND NOW NOBODYCAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING
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  • EXCEPT THAT, AND IT'STAKING ITS TOLL ON US,
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  • THIS IDEA OF ISOLATIONAND LONELINESS THAT WAS
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  • ALREADY PRESENT, WEENTITLED THIS BOOK, I
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  • WROTE THISBOOK PRE COVID.
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  • I WENT BACK TO WRITE THEFINAL DRAFT DURING
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  • LOCKDOWN, BUT THIS IDEA OFISOLATION AND LONELINESS
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  • IS A REAL ISSUE.
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  • IT'S A HARDISSUE FOR PEOPLE.
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  • WE JUST DON'T FEELCONNECTED TO ONE ANOTHER.
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  • ONE OF THE MOSTINTERESTING LITTLE AT
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  • TIDBITS THAT I'VEFOUND IS RESEARCH FROM
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  • PARKLAND HOSPITALIN DALLAS.
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  • THEY WERE TRYING TOUNCLOG THEIR ER SYSTEM.
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  • THIS IS AGAINPRE PANDEMIC.
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  • THEY JUST HAD SO MANYPEOPLE COMING THROUGH
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  • THEIR ER'S THEY COULDN'TKEEP UP WITH THEM.
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  • THEY THOUGHT WHAT INTHE WORLD IS GOING ON?
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  • SO THEY EVALUATED, MADEA LIST OF WHAT WE MIGHT
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  • CALL REPEAT OFFENDERS,PEOPLE WHO WOULD COME
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  • BACK EVERY TWO WEEKS,EVERY THREE WEEKS,
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  • EVERY MONTH.
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  • AND THEY CAME UP WITH ALIST OF ABOUT 100 PEOPLE
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  • AND INTERVIEWED THEM ANDFOUND OUT THESE PEOPLE
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  • AREN'T SICK.
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  • THEY'RE LONELY.
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  • - OH, MY GOODNESS.
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  • - THEY'RE LONELY, ANDTHE PLACE THEY CAN GO AND
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  • BE SURE THAT SOMEBODY ISGOING TO ASK THEM, HOW
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  • ARE YOU DOING,
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  • IS AN EMERGENCY ROOM.
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  • - WOW.
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  • - SO THAT'S JUSTAN INDICATION.
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  • AND THEN THE PANDEMIC,CALLS TO EMOTIONAL HELP
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  • HOTLINES ARE UP 861%.
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  • 861%.
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  • DEPRESSION RATES AREHIGHER THAN EVER.
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  • SUICIDE IS THE HIGHESTTHAT IT'S BEEN SINCE 1999.
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  • - IT SEEMS LIKE 2020 WASA SET TIME FOR THINGS TO
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  • GO OFF THE WALL, AND THATWAS JUST THE TRIGGER THAT
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  • DID IT, RIGHT.
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  • SO I LOVE WHAT YOU SAIDBECAUSE WHEN IT ALL
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  • STARTED, IT'S LIKE OKAY,GOD, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
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  • WHAT ARE YOU SAYINGTO THE CHURCH?
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  • WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO OUR--AND IT WAS SUCH A PERSONAL --
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - INTROSPECTIVE LOOK ATWHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE OF
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  • ME, OUR HOME, OUR FAMILY,OUR COMMUNITIES,
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  • AND THEN ABROAD.
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  • - THAT'S A VERY MATUREWAY TO START ASKING
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  • BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WEREJUST MAD, YOU KNOW.
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  • SOME PEOPLE WHEN YOU TAKEAWAY ANY KIND OF SENSE OF
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  • LIBERTY, ALL THE SUDDEN,YOU KNOW, YOU JUST
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  • SEE ANGER.
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  • AND SO THE QUESTION, I SUPPOSE,THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH,
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  • MAX, WE TAKE OVER AMILLION CALLS A YEAR, AND
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  • WE FOUND THAT WHEN WE DIDSOME RESEARCH, THAT THERE
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  • WERE 700 DIFFERENT PHONENUMBERS THAT WERE TAKING
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  • UP 30% OF THE CALLVOLUME TIME IN A MILLION
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  • AND A HALF CALLS.
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  • - ON THE PRAYER LINE.
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  • - SO WE CAN VERIFYTHESE TYPES OF THINGS
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  • THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLETHAT CALL A NUMBER ON A
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  • SCREEN BECAUSETHEY'RE LONELY.
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  • THEY WANT TOTALK TO SOMEBODY.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - AND THAT'S SUCH AJUXTAPOSITION TO THE FACT
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  • THAT BASICALLY EVERYBODYHAS A CELL PHONE OR MOST
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  • EVERYBODY DOES, AND THEYARE INTERCONNECTED LIKE
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  • NEVER BEFORE THROUGHALL SORTS OF STUFF,
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  • BUT WE'RE LONELY.
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  • THERE IS A LONELINESS.
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  • - THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
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  • - IN THIS SEASON.
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  • OKAY, SO YOU STARTEDWRITING YOU ARE NEVER
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  • ALONE BEFORE COVID 19.
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  • YOU GOT TO MODIFYIT DURING LOCKDOWN.
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  • SO THIS IS RIGHTNOW INFORMATION.
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  • WE'RE STILL IN THISUNIQUE SEASON, SO STEP
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  • THROUGH SOME OF THIS.
  • 00:08:01.571 --> 00:08:02.805
  • AND WHAT DO YOU WE NEEDTO -- HOW DO WE HELP FOLKS
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  • THAT ARE WATCHINGRIGHT NOW?
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  • - YEAH. YEAH.
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  • IF A PERSON WAS ABLE TOGO TO THE BOOKSTORE, LOOK
  • 00:08:08.277 --> 00:08:10.179
  • ONLINE FOR CURES FORLONELINESS, THEY'D FIND A
  • 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.548
  • LOT OF BOOKS, ALOT OF ARTICLES.
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  • AND IT'S ALL HORIZONTAL.
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  • YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW TO HAVEA BETTER CONVERSATION.
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  • HOW TO BE ABETTER LISTENER.
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  • HOW TO BE MOREEMPATHETIC, AND THAT'S
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  • GOOD STUFF.
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  • THAT'S GREAT STUFF.
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  • THE BIBLE'S APPROACH TOLONELINESS, HOWEVER,
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  • IS DIFFERENT.
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  • JESUS SAID YOU SHALL LOVETHE LORD YOUR GOD WITH
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  • ALL YOUR HEART, SOUL,MIND, AND STRENGTH.
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  • SECONDLY, YOU SHALLLOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
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  • AS YOURSELF.
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  • SO DON'T THINK FOR ASECOND YOU CAN CURE
  • 00:08:42.612 --> 00:08:44.347
  • LONELINESS IF YOUDON'T HAVE A HEALTHY
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  • RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - THAT'S KIND OFWHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - AND IF YOU THINK THATCURING LONELINESS IS JUST
  • 00:08:51.387 --> 00:08:53.155
  • MORE ABOUT MORECONVERSATIONS OR MORE
  • 00:08:53.255 --> 00:08:55.691
  • PEOPLE, I MEAN, YOU CANGO SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF A
  • 00:08:55.791 --> 00:08:58.260
  • FOOTBALL STADIUM, NOT NOW[LAUGHTER] BUT USED TO,
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  • YOU KNOW, AND BESURROUNDED BY 70.000
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  • PEOPLE AND BE SOLONELY YOUR BONES ARE
  • 00:09:05.101 --> 00:09:06.936
  • GOING TO MELT.
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  • THE TRUE TREATMENT FORLONELINESS BEGINS WITH
  • 00:09:08.371 --> 00:09:11.641
  • EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITYOF A GOD WHO KNOWS YOU
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  • AND LOVES YOU SO DEEPLYTHAT WHEN YOU HAVE A
  • 00:09:15.878 --> 00:09:20.049
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM,EVERY OTHER RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:09:20.149 --> 00:09:22.752
  • IS BETTER, AND WHEN YOUHAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:09:22.852 --> 00:09:26.789
  • HIM, IF SOMETHINGHAPPENS AND EVERY OTHER
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  • RELATIONSHIP ISINTERRUPTED, YOU KNOW, IF
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  • YOU'RE PLACED IN THEHOSPITAL OR ER OR SENIOR
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  • CITIZENS CENTER,YOU'LL BE OKAY.
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  • YOU'LL BE OKAY BECAUSETHAT RELATIONSHIP
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  • IS ENOUGH.
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  • SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYINGTO ADVANCE THROUGH
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  • THIS DISCUSSION.
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  • YOU REALLY ARE NEVERALONE, AND COULD IT BE
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  • THAT THIS CALAMITY WE'RECALLING COVID IS AN
  • 00:09:50.079 --> 00:09:52.982
  • OPPORTUNITY FOR US TONURTURE THAT VERTICAL
  • 00:09:53.082 --> 00:09:57.353
  • RELATIONSHIP THAT WILLSTRENGTHEN ALL THE
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  • HORIZONTAL ONES?
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  • - ARE YOU -- LET ME MAKESURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT
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  • YOU JUST SAID.
  • 00:10:04.694 --> 00:10:06.195
  • ARE YOU SAYING THAT COVID19 COULD POSSIBLY BE A
  • 00:10:06.295 --> 00:10:08.497
  • GIFT TO SOMEONE.
  • 00:10:08.597 --> 00:10:09.965
  • - COME ON.
  • 00:10:10.066 --> 00:10:10.599
  • - TO CURE LONELINESS?
  • 00:10:10.700 --> 00:10:12.201
  • - I THINK SO, AND ITHINK LONELINESS IS A
  • 00:10:12.301 --> 00:10:13.836
  • GIFT BECAUSE IT CAUSES USTO QUIT DEPENDING UPON
  • 00:10:13.936 --> 00:10:17.573
  • PEOPLE TO DO WHATPEOPLE CAN'T DO.
  • 00:10:17.673 --> 00:10:19.642
  • - WOW.
  • 00:10:19.742 --> 00:10:20.676
  • - PEOPLE CAN'TBE THE EVERYTHING.
  • 00:10:20.776 --> 00:10:22.111
  • I KNOW I'M THE BESTHUSBAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
  • 00:10:22.211 --> 00:10:25.915
  • - YES.
  • 00:10:26.015 --> 00:10:27.016
  • [LAUGHTER] - BUT ICAN'T BE EVERYTHING TO HER.
  • 00:10:27.116 --> 00:10:29.485
  • - NO, HE CAN'T.
  • 00:10:29.585 --> 00:10:31.153
  • - ONLY GOD CAN.
  • 00:10:31.253 --> 00:10:32.455
  • AND IF YOU WANT TO BE AGREAT HUSBAND, BE A GREAT
  • 00:10:32.555 --> 00:10:34.623
  • SON OF GOD.
  • 00:10:34.724 --> 00:10:36.158
  • IF YOU WANT TO BE AGREAT WIFE, HAVE A GREAT
  • 00:10:36.258 --> 00:10:38.427
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 00:10:38.527 --> 00:10:40.129
  • LET GOD GIVE YOUWHAT YOU NEED.
  • 00:10:40.229 --> 00:10:42.498
  • LET GOD FORGIVEYOUR SINS.
  • 00:10:42.598 --> 00:10:45.000
  • LET GOD BE YOURSOURCE OF IDENTITY.
  • 00:10:45.101 --> 00:10:47.169
  • LET GOD GIVE YOU REASONFOR GETTING OUT OF BED IN
  • 00:10:47.269 --> 00:10:50.239
  • THE MORNING BECAUSE NOPERSON CAN DO THOSE THREE.
  • 00:10:50.339 --> 00:10:52.241
  • NO PERSON CAN.
  • 00:10:52.341 --> 00:10:53.876
  • SO IF YOU'RE THINKINGTHAT PERSON YOU WALK DOWN
  • 00:10:53.976 --> 00:10:55.945
  • THE AISLE TO SAY YESTO, SAY FOREVER TO,
  • 00:10:56.045 --> 00:10:58.948
  • IF YOU'RE THINKINGTHEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT,
  • 00:10:59.048 --> 00:11:00.983
  • YOU'RE SETTING YOURSELFUP FOR DISAPPOINTMENT.
  • 00:11:01.083 --> 00:11:03.352
  • - WELL, THEN LET'S BEBOLD IN OUR DECLARATION
  • 00:11:03.452 --> 00:11:07.890
  • OF WHAT TODAY'SBROADCAST IS.
  • 00:11:07.990 --> 00:11:09.859
  • SO LET'S SAY WE'REDECLARING THAT THIS TV
  • 00:11:09.959 --> 00:11:15.431
  • SHOW IS SOMEWHATDIFFERENT THAN MAYBE SOME
  • 00:11:15.531 --> 00:11:17.767
  • OF THE OTHER ONES YOUMIGHT SEE ANYWHERE ELSE,
  • 00:11:17.867 --> 00:11:20.169
  • AND WE'RE DECLARING THATTHIS UNIQUE LOCKDOWN,
  • 00:11:20.269 --> 00:11:23.873
  • SHUT DOWN, PANDEMIC, STAYAT HOME, SHELTER IN PLACE
  • 00:11:23.973 --> 00:11:28.644
  • THING THAT'S GOING ONTHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE
  • 00:11:28.744 --> 00:11:35.117
  • WITH A PASSION COULD BE AGREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU
  • 00:11:35.217 --> 00:11:39.288
  • TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOUWOULD CURE IT ANYWAY.
  • 00:11:39.388 --> 00:11:44.827
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVERGOING TO FIX IT BY BEING
  • 00:11:44.927 --> 00:11:49.799
  • THE LIFE OF THE PARTY.
  • 00:11:49.899 --> 00:11:51.400
  • YOU'RE NEVER GOING TOFIX IT BY HAVING MORE
  • 00:11:51.500 --> 00:11:54.069
  • SOCIAL EVENTS.
  • 00:11:54.170 --> 00:11:55.471
  • YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLEARE DOING THESE PARTIES
  • 00:11:55.571 --> 00:11:59.475
  • THINKING THAT WE'RE JUSTGOING TO THUMB OUR NOSE,
  • 00:11:59.575 --> 00:12:02.011
  • YOU KNOW, AT SOCIETYAND AUTHORITY AND
  • 00:12:02.111 --> 00:12:06.015
  • WHATEVER ELSE.
  • 00:12:06.115 --> 00:12:07.716
  • AND GOD IS SAYING,WAIT A SECOND.
  • 00:12:07.817 --> 00:12:09.785
  • GET YOUR PRIORITIESSTRAIGHT.
  • 00:12:09.885 --> 00:12:12.221
  • IS THAT KIND OFWHERE WE'RE AT?
  • 00:12:12.321 --> 00:12:13.722
  • - WELL, THE BEAUTY OFTHE GOSPEL OF JOHN WHICH
  • 00:12:13.823 --> 00:12:16.458
  • IS WHERE I DECIDEDTO UNPACK THIS.
  • 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.260
  • - GOT IT.
  • 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:19.328
  • - IS THE STORY OF JESUSTHROUGH A SERIES OF
  • 00:12:19.428 --> 00:12:22.097
  • MIRACLES CONVINCING USTHAT WE'RE NEVER ALONE.
  • 00:12:22.198 --> 00:12:25.568
  • JOHN'S GOSPEL IS UNIQUEBECAUSE JOHN SAID I HAVE
  • 00:12:25.668 --> 00:12:29.271
  • WRITTEN THESE THINGS SOTHAT YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
  • 00:12:29.371 --> 00:12:32.341
  • JESUS AND INBELIEVING HAVE LIFE.
  • 00:12:32.441 --> 00:12:34.343
  • HIS GOAL IS THAT DENALYN,LAURIE, MATT, THAT ALL OF
  • 00:12:34.443 --> 00:12:39.048
  • US HAVE LIFE.
  • 00:12:39.148 --> 00:12:40.749
  • NOT JUST BE ABLE TOBREATHE BUT HAVE JOY AND
  • 00:12:40.850 --> 00:12:43.419
  • MEANING AND SIGNIFICANCE,SO WE WENT INTO THIS BOOK
  • 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.555
  • LOOKING AT THESEDIFFERENT MIRACLES IN THE
  • 00:12:46.655 --> 00:12:49.191
  • GOSPEL OF JOHN SAYINGNOW, HOW DOES THE STORY
  • 00:12:49.291 --> 00:12:52.461
  • OF WATER INTO WINE, HOWDOES THAT LEAD LIFE?
  • 00:12:52.561 --> 00:12:55.664
  • HOW DOES THE STORY OFRAISING LAZARUS FROM THE
  • 00:12:55.764 --> 00:12:58.167
  • DEAD PROMISE LIFE TO ME?
  • 00:12:58.267 --> 00:13:00.369
  • AND IN EACH ONE OF THEMWE SEE AN INSTANCE OF
  • 00:13:00.469 --> 00:13:03.405
  • JESUS ENTERING INTO ADIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCE.
  • 00:13:03.505 --> 00:13:07.543
  • SOME OF THEM ASRELATIVELY MUNDANE AS
  • 00:13:07.643 --> 00:13:10.346
  • WINELESS WEDDING.
  • 00:13:10.446 --> 00:13:12.848
  • SOME OF US AS SIGNIFICANTAS A DEAD LAZARUS, BUT
  • 00:13:12.948 --> 00:13:15.784
  • ALL OF THEM JESUS JUSTWALKS RIGHT INTO THE
  • 00:13:15.885 --> 00:13:18.420
  • MIDDLE OF IT, AND HEBRINGS ABOUT SOLUTIONS,
  • 00:13:18.520 --> 00:13:20.990
  • SO I THINK WHAT DENALYNWOULD LIKE TO CONVEY IN
  • 00:13:21.090 --> 00:13:23.692
  • THIS BOOK IS THATGOD WILL DO THAT.
  • 00:13:23.792 --> 00:13:26.228
  • HE'LL STILL DO THAT, ANDMAYBE THIS CRISIS THAT
  • 00:13:26.328 --> 00:13:29.131
  • WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF ISYOUR OPPORTUNITY TO TEST
  • 00:13:29.231 --> 00:13:32.001
  • HIM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:13:32.101 --> 00:13:33.569
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:13:33.669 --> 00:13:35.871
  • - SHE WAS GOINGTO SAY SOMETHING. GO. SAY IT.
  • 00:13:35.971 --> 00:13:38.107
  • - IT COMES AND IT GOES.
  • 00:13:38.207 --> 00:13:40.075
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:40.175 --> 00:13:41.143
  • - BUT NO, I THINK GODWANTS US TO INVITE HIM TO
  • 00:13:41.243 --> 00:13:45.781
  • INTERRUPT THIS CRISIS.
  • 00:13:45.881 --> 00:13:47.883
  • I THINK HE WANTS HISCHURCH TO BE TURNED
  • 00:13:47.983 --> 00:13:50.953
  • UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:13:51.053 --> 00:13:52.855
  • HE DOESN'T WANT STATUSQUO FOR THE CHURCH.
  • 00:13:52.955 --> 00:13:55.758
  • HE DOESN'T WANT IT TOKEEP LOOKING LIKE IT'S
  • 00:13:55.858 --> 00:13:57.493
  • ALWAYS LOOKED.
  • 00:13:57.593 --> 00:13:58.661
  • HE WANTS THINGS TO STARTMOVING AND HAPPENING THAT
  • 00:13:58.761 --> 00:14:02.231
  • ARE DIFFERENT, AND THATARE ALL ABOUT HIM AND
  • 00:14:02.331 --> 00:14:05.467
  • WHAT ONLY HE CAN DO INUS PERSONALLY BUT IN THE
  • 00:14:05.567 --> 00:14:10.306
  • BODY OF CHRIST WHICH ISHIS BRIDE WHICH HE IS
  • 00:14:10.406 --> 00:14:13.542
  • PURIFYING AND PREPARINGFOR HIS RETURN.
  • 00:14:13.642 --> 00:14:16.645
  • I MEAN, THINGS AREHAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON
  • 00:14:16.745 --> 00:14:20.282
  • THIS EARTH IN OUR NATION,AND IN OTHER NATIONS THAT
  • 00:14:20.382 --> 00:14:22.952
  • ARE POINTINGTO HIS RETURN.
  • 00:14:23.052 --> 00:14:25.854
  • SO IT CAN BE EXCITING.
  • 00:14:25.955 --> 00:14:27.856
  • HE'S NOT TELLINGUS TO BE AFRAID.
  • 00:14:27.957 --> 00:14:30.025
  • HE'S SAYING KEEPYOUR EYES ON ME.
  • 00:14:30.125 --> 00:14:32.561
  • DON'T BE AFRAID.
  • 00:14:32.661 --> 00:14:33.929
  • I'M WITH YOU.
  • 00:14:34.029 --> 00:14:34.930
  • DON'T BE DISMAYEDFOR I AM YOUR GOD.
  • 00:14:35.030 --> 00:14:37.533
  • I WILL HELP YOU.
  • 00:14:37.633 --> 00:14:39.034
  • I WILL STRENGTHEN YOU.
  • 00:14:39.134 --> 00:14:40.669
  • I WILL UPHOLD YOU WITHMY RIGHTEOUS RIGHT HAND,
  • 00:14:40.769 --> 00:14:43.272
  • SO HE'S USING ALL OFTHIS TO EQUIP ALL OF US
  • 00:14:43.372 --> 00:14:48.711
  • PERSONALLY BUT ALSO HISCHURCH, EQUIPPING US TO
  • 00:14:48.811 --> 00:14:53.949
  • GO OUT, TO SPEAK OUT, TODECLARE WHO HE IS, WHAT
  • 00:14:54.049 --> 00:14:59.321
  • HE CAN DO IN LOVE.
  • 00:14:59.421 --> 00:15:01.123
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:15:01.223 --> 00:15:02.124
  • - IN LOVE.
  • 00:15:02.224 --> 00:15:03.425
  • I DON'T-- I'M NOT REALLY ALLABOUT DEFIANCE, AND I KNOW --
  • 00:15:03.525 --> 00:15:07.596
  • - A LITTLEDEFIANCE IS OKAY?
  • 00:15:07.696 --> 00:15:10.866
  • - MAYBE FOR YOU,MATT, JUST A LITTLE.
  • 00:15:10.966 --> 00:15:12.835
  • [LAUGHTER] BUTI THINK HUMILITY.
  • 00:15:12.935 --> 00:15:15.871
  • YOU KNOW, IT SAYS HUMBLEYOURSELF IN THE SIGHT OF
  • 00:15:15.971 --> 00:15:18.073
  • THE LORD, AND HE WILLLIFT YOU UP, SO HE'S
  • 00:15:18.173 --> 00:15:20.042
  • LOOKING FORHUMBLE HEARTS.
  • 00:15:20.142 --> 00:15:22.344
  • HE'S LOOKING FOR MEN WHOWILL TURN FROM THEIR
  • 00:15:22.444 --> 00:15:24.913
  • WICKED WAYS BECAUSE HEWANTS TO HEAL HIS LAND.
  • 00:15:25.014 --> 00:15:28.751
  • HE WANTS TOHEAL OUR LAND.
  • 00:15:28.851 --> 00:15:30.486
  • HE WANTS TO HEAL HISPEOPLE, AND HE WANTS TO
  • 00:15:30.586 --> 00:15:32.955
  • WORK BUT HE WILL WORKTHROUGH HUMILITY.
  • 00:15:33.055 --> 00:15:37.059
  • HE WILL WORK MIGHTYTHINGS THROUGH HUMILITY.
  • 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.395
  • SO I DON'T LIKE SEEINGDEFIANCE NEXT TO THE WORD
  • 00:15:39.495 --> 00:15:42.564
  • CHURCH, BUT I THINK ASA CHURCH CONCERNING THE
  • 00:15:42.664 --> 00:15:47.569
  • COVID AND THE MASK ANDALL THE THINGS WE REALLY
  • 00:15:47.669 --> 00:15:50.639
  • HATE THAT MAKE US FEELDISTANT FROM THOSE WE
  • 00:15:50.739 --> 00:15:55.611
  • LOVE, AND EVEN STRANGERSIN THE GROCERY STORE, BUT
  • 00:15:55.711 --> 00:15:58.914
  • HE TALKS TO US INROMANS 13 ABOUT
  • 00:15:59.014 --> 00:16:02.217
  • RESPECTING AUTHORITY.
  • 00:16:02.317 --> 00:16:03.986
  • SO THERE IS, THEREIS SOMETHING ABOUT
  • 00:16:04.086 --> 00:16:06.822
  • RESPECTING AUTHORITY,WORKING WITH AUTHORITY,
  • 00:16:06.922 --> 00:16:10.392
  • IN HUMILITY THAT ACTUALLYCALLS PEOPLE TO JESUS.
  • 00:16:10.492 --> 00:16:14.797
  • SO IN SAN ANTONIO WHENWE DID A PRAY S.A.
  • 00:16:14.897 --> 00:16:18.467
  • THING, MAX TEXTED THEMAYOR, AND HE'S LIKE,
  • 00:16:18.567 --> 00:16:22.304
  • HEY, ARE YOU OKAYIF WE DO THIS?
  • 00:16:22.404 --> 00:16:24.840
  • WE'RE THINKING ABOUTCALLING CARS TO FREEMAN
  • 00:16:24.940 --> 00:16:27.876
  • COLISEUM PARKING LOT ANDPRAYING FOR SAN ANTONIO.
  • 00:16:27.976 --> 00:16:32.314
  • AND YOU KNOW, HEAPPRECIATED IT.
  • 00:16:32.414 --> 00:16:33.582
  • HE SAYS YES, I'MALL FOR UNITY.
  • 00:16:33.682 --> 00:16:36.952
  • SO THAT'S MYLITTLE TWO CENTS.
  • 00:16:37.052 --> 00:16:39.555
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:39.655 --> 00:16:40.622
  • - I LOVE IT.
  • 00:16:40.722 --> 00:16:41.824
  • - SO FIRST OF ALL, YOUWIDENED CONVERSATION TO
  • 00:16:41.924 --> 00:16:44.460
  • KIND OF NOW INCLUDE HOWTHIS SEASON IS NOT GOING
  • 00:16:44.560 --> 00:16:49.131
  • TO ONLY AFFECT A SINGLEINDIVIDUAL AND THEIR
  • 00:16:49.231 --> 00:16:52.568
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH ALOVING GOD, BUT NOW WE'RE
  • 00:16:52.668 --> 00:16:56.405
  • TRYING TO WADE INTOKIND OF THE BIGGER KIND
  • 00:16:56.505 --> 00:16:59.875
  • OF HOW IT AFFECTS THECHURCH AND ALL THAT, SO
  • 00:16:59.975 --> 00:17:02.478
  • THAT'S ONE THING.
  • 00:17:02.578 --> 00:17:03.445
  • SECOND THING, YOUACTUALLY TEXT YOUR MAYOR?
  • 00:17:03.545 --> 00:17:06.115
  • - I DID.
  • 00:17:06.215 --> 00:17:06.982
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:07.082 --> 00:17:08.183
  • - YOU ACTUALLYTEXT YOUR MAYOR?
  • 00:17:08.283 --> 00:17:08.917
  • - WELL, NOT EVERY DAY.
  • 00:17:09.017 --> 00:17:09.751
  • ON OCCASION.
  • 00:17:09.852 --> 00:17:11.286
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:11.386 --> 00:17:15.290
  • - BUT NOW I'VE GOT TOASK THIS QUESTION, YOU
  • 00:17:15.390 --> 00:17:20.562
  • BROUGHT IT UP, DENALYN,SO YOU STARTED IT.
  • 00:17:20.662 --> 00:17:22.231
  • - IT'S YOURFAULT, HONEY.
  • 00:17:22.331 --> 00:17:23.932
  • - I DON'T KNOWWHAT I SAID.
  • 00:17:24.032 --> 00:17:24.967
  • - OH, MAN.
  • 00:17:25.067 --> 00:17:26.768
  • - WELL, WHAT I THINK YOUSAID IS THAT YOU LIKE TO
  • 00:17:26.869 --> 00:17:29.805
  • RESPECT AUTHORITY ANDTHAT YOU WERE SEEKING
  • 00:17:29.905 --> 00:17:33.509
  • PERMISSION OF YOURGOVERNMENTAL LEADERS IN
  • 00:17:33.609 --> 00:17:35.544
  • REGARD TO THE WAY THECHURCH WAS GOING TO BE
  • 00:17:35.644 --> 00:17:38.213
  • OPERATING IN SAN ANTONIO.
  • 00:17:38.313 --> 00:17:39.748
  • YOU DIDN'T JUST DO YOURTHINK THING IN DEFIANCE
  • 00:17:39.848 --> 00:17:42.384
  • OF CODES OR THIS OR THATOR THE OTHER THING.
  • 00:17:42.484 --> 00:17:45.053
  • ALL RIGHT, BUT JOHNMACARTHUR WAS TOLD BY A
  • 00:17:45.154 --> 00:17:49.758
  • JUDGE, SUPERIOR JUDGE ORA JUDGE IN CALIFORNIA YOU
  • 00:17:49.858 --> 00:17:54.830
  • CAN'T HOLD CHURCH.
  • 00:17:54.930 --> 00:17:55.964
  • HE HELD CHURCH ANYWAY, SOHOW DO YOU WEIGH WHAT'S
  • 00:17:56.064 --> 00:17:59.201
  • GOING ON IN THE BIGGERPIECE OF WHAT THIS IS
  • 00:17:59.301 --> 00:18:03.038
  • WHERE SOME PASTORS, BLESSTHEIR HEARTS, ARE IN
  • 00:18:03.138 --> 00:18:07.976
  • COMPLETE DEFIANCE, BEINGTHREATENED A YEAR IN
  • 00:18:08.076 --> 00:18:10.879
  • JAIL, AND I THINKJOHN MACARTHUR SAID,
  • 00:18:10.979 --> 00:18:16.051
  • BRING IT ON.
  • 00:18:16.151 --> 00:18:17.486
  • YOU WANT TO COME ARRESTME, HAVE AT IT, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:18:17.586 --> 00:18:20.856
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:18:20.956 --> 00:18:22.090
  • - THAT DOESN'T SOUNDLIKE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
  • 00:18:22.191 --> 00:18:24.459
  • - THANKS FORBRINGING THIS UP.
  • 00:18:24.560 --> 00:18:25.527
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:25.627 --> 00:18:28.063
  • - OH, I'M SOHAPPY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:18:28.163 --> 00:18:29.865
  • - MATT CROUCH.
  • 00:18:29.965 --> 00:18:30.766
  • - WELL, MAXLUCADO IS BLUSHING.
  • 00:18:30.866 --> 00:18:34.169
  • MY FAVORITETHING IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:18:34.269 --> 00:18:36.138
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:36.238 --> 00:18:37.573
  • - WELL, OKAY, SO WEWERE ABLE TO FIND MIDDLE
  • 00:18:37.673 --> 00:18:39.975
  • GROUND WITH THEMAYOR, OKAY.
  • 00:18:40.075 --> 00:18:41.944
  • I CAN'T SPEAK FOR JOHN'SSITUATION THERE IN
  • 00:18:42.044 --> 00:18:43.812
  • CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:18:43.912 --> 00:18:45.180
  • I LOVE JOHN.
  • 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:46.114
  • I LOVE JOHN.
  • 00:18:46.215 --> 00:18:47.149
  • WE FOUND MIDDLE GROUND.
  • 00:18:47.249 --> 00:18:51.086
  • WE DID OUTDOOR SERVICES.
  • 00:18:51.186 --> 00:18:52.387
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:18:52.487 --> 00:18:53.655
  • - WE JUST SAID OKAY,WILL THAT WORK?
  • 00:18:53.755 --> 00:18:55.157
  • AND THEY WEREVERY GRACIOUS.
  • 00:18:55.257 --> 00:18:56.158
  • THEY WERE VERYGRACIOUS TO US.
  • 00:18:56.258 --> 00:18:57.459
  • - THAT IS THE DIFFERENCEBETWEEN TEXAS AND
  • 00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:59.027
  • CALIFORNIA THOUGH.
  • 00:18:59.127 --> 00:19:00.329
  • I HAVE TO SAY THAT.
  • 00:19:00.429 --> 00:19:01.430
  • - YEAH, IT COULD HAVEBEEN THEIR SITUATION.
  • 00:19:01.530 --> 00:19:03.031
  • YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:19:03.131 --> 00:19:04.266
  • I DO BELIEVE PEOPLEARE HUNGRY TO GATHER.
  • 00:19:04.366 --> 00:19:06.335
  • THEY'RE HUNGRY TOWORSHIP, AND I DO BELIEVE
  • 00:19:06.435 --> 00:19:08.637
  • THE CHURCH NEEDSTO COME TOGETHER.
  • 00:19:08.737 --> 00:19:10.739
  • WE'RE RIGHT AT THE END.
  • 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:13.375
  • I THINK 4 TO 6 WEEKS,THE CHURCH IS KIND OF OKAY--
  • 00:19:13.475 --> 00:19:16.445
  • - WE'RE AT THEEND OF WHAT?
  • 00:19:16.545 --> 00:19:17.980
  • - WE'RE AT THE END OFTHAT ABILITY TO NOT
  • 00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:19.448
  • BE TOGETHER.
  • 00:19:19.548 --> 00:19:20.616
  • - I THOUGHT YOU WERESETTING A DATE FOR THE
  • 00:19:20.716 --> 00:19:21.883
  • LORD'S RETURN THERE.
  • 00:19:21.984 --> 00:19:22.884
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:22.985 --> 00:19:23.885
  • - THAT COULD BE TRUE.
  • 00:19:23.986 --> 00:19:24.920
  • - IT COULD BE TODAY.
  • 00:19:25.020 --> 00:19:26.922
  • - THAT COULD BE TRUE.
  • 00:19:27.022 --> 00:19:28.156
  • YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THATTEXAS HAD SAID NO, WE'RE
  • 00:19:28.257 --> 00:19:31.360
  • NOT EVEN GOING TO LET YOUGET IN YOUR PARKING LOTS
  • 00:19:31.460 --> 00:19:33.362
  • AND HAVE CHURCH.
  • 00:19:33.462 --> 00:19:35.664
  • THAT WOULD HAVE GOTTENA LOT OF PUSH BACK.
  • 00:19:35.764 --> 00:19:37.833
  • A LOT OF PUSH BACK.
  • 00:19:37.933 --> 00:19:38.900
  • - AGAIN, WOULD YOU HAVEPUSHED BACK ON THAT.
  • 00:19:39.001 --> 00:19:40.902
  • - WE MIGHT HAVE SAID YESTO 4 TO 6 WEEKS BUT --
  • 00:19:41.003 --> 00:19:42.938
  • - I THINK WE GET INTOTROUBLE WHEN WE GO INTO
  • 00:19:43.038 --> 00:19:46.275
  • TROUBLE AND GO INTOOUR CORNERS AND DIG OUR
  • 00:19:46.375 --> 00:19:48.110
  • HEELS IN AND SAY THIS ISTHE WAY IT SHOULD BE, AND
  • 00:19:48.210 --> 00:19:51.413
  • YOU GO NO, THIS IS THEWAY IT SHOULD BE, AND WHY
  • 00:19:51.513 --> 00:19:54.349
  • CAN'T WE COME TO THETABLE AND TALK
  • 00:19:54.449 --> 00:19:56.151
  • ABOUT THINGS?
  • 00:19:56.251 --> 00:19:57.152
  • - AND FIND A SOLUTION.
  • 00:19:57.252 --> 00:19:57.853
  • - REASON TOGETHER.
  • 00:19:57.953 --> 00:20:00.656
  • - YEAH, IT IS.
  • 00:20:00.756 --> 00:20:01.857
  • - I THINK IN CONTEXT ASCHRISTIANS, SO WE'RE
  • 00:20:01.957 --> 00:20:03.325
  • TALKING GOVERNMENTAL -ANDCHRISTIANS SO THAT WAS
  • 00:20:03.425 --> 00:20:06.728
  • OUT OF CONTEXTSCRIPTURE REFERENCE.
  • 00:20:06.828 --> 00:20:08.930
  • - YOU'RE FEELING SPICYTODAY, AREN'T YOU?
  • 00:20:09.031 --> 00:20:11.533
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:11.633 --> 00:20:12.868
  • - EVEN IF THERE'SHUMILITY PRESENT AND
  • 00:20:12.968 --> 00:20:16.238
  • KINDNESS PRESENT --- ARE YOU LISTENING?
  • 00:20:16.338 --> 00:20:18.106
  • - AND GOODNESS PRESENTAND GOD'S LOVE AND HIS
  • 00:20:18.206 --> 00:20:21.710
  • UNDERSTANDING, IF THAT ISALL PRESENT, IT SOFTENS
  • 00:20:21.810 --> 00:20:25.547
  • THE HEARTS OF GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:20:25.647 --> 00:20:27.849
  • IT SOFTENS THE HEARTS OFTHOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THE
  • 00:20:27.949 --> 00:20:30.819
  • LORD AND THEY'RE WILLINGTO LISTEN, BUT WHEN WE
  • 00:20:30.919 --> 00:20:33.955
  • JUST THROW OUR VIDEOS OUTHERE AND WE SPEAK OUT
  • 00:20:34.056 --> 00:20:37.492
  • HERE AND WE'RE CRITICALAND WE DON'T HONOR
  • 00:20:37.592 --> 00:20:40.629
  • PEOPLE, WHO WOULD NOT BEWILLING TO LISTEN IF YOU
  • 00:20:40.729 --> 00:20:45.767
  • HONORED THEM AND YOUTHANKED THEM FOR WHAT
  • 00:20:45.867 --> 00:20:49.504
  • THEY DID FOR YOUR CITY?
  • 00:20:49.604 --> 00:20:51.139
  • I MEAN, THERE ARE HARDHEARTS THAT MIGHT NOT,
  • 00:20:51.239 --> 00:20:54.009
  • BUT I JUST THINK THERE'SA CONVERSATION MAYBE THAT
  • 00:20:54.109 --> 00:20:57.512
  • HASN'T HAPPENED EVEN INCALIFORNIA, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:20:57.612 --> 00:21:00.082
  • THAT MIGHT BENEFIT,EXPAND GOD'S KINGDOM,
  • 00:21:00.182 --> 00:21:06.154
  • OPEN PEOPLE'S HEARTS TOHEAR AND NOT SHUT,
  • 00:21:06.254 --> 00:21:09.624
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:21:09.725 --> 00:21:10.826
  • GIVE THEM A NEW WAY TOSEE WHO JESUS IS AND WHO
  • 00:21:10.926 --> 00:21:13.362
  • ARE THESE PEOPLEWHO FOLLOW HIM.
  • 00:21:13.462 --> 00:21:16.865
  • WHAT ARE THEY LIKE?
  • 00:21:16.965 --> 00:21:18.567
  • YOU KNOW, THEY'REATTRACTIVE.
  • 00:21:18.667 --> 00:21:19.901
  • I WANT TO FOLLOWTHEM, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:21:20.001 --> 00:21:21.970
  • THERE IS A WAY, THERE ISA HEART THAT CAN DO THAT.
  • 00:21:22.070 --> 00:21:25.640
  • - YOU KNOW, AND YOU FINDEVEN IN THIS SEASON I'M
  • 00:21:25.741 --> 00:21:29.578
  • KIND OF BLOWN AWAY BYSOME BROTHERS AND SISTERS
  • 00:21:29.678 --> 00:21:33.682
  • THAT JUST ARE SO ADAMANTAGAINST, AND IT'S LIKE
  • 00:21:33.782 --> 00:21:41.623
  • MAN, THESE PEOPLENEED JESUS.
  • 00:21:41.723 --> 00:21:43.358
  • FIRST OF ALL, THEYNEED JESUS, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:21:43.458 --> 00:21:46.762
  • AND YOU'RE SO RIGHT, WENEED TO INSTEAD OF JUST
  • 00:21:46.862 --> 00:21:51.933
  • BEING SO HARD NOSED WHICH ICAN BE. I'M PROBABLY--
  • 00:21:52.033 --> 00:21:56.571
  • - YOUTHINK YOU CAN BE?
  • 00:21:56.671 --> 00:21:58.573
  • - I CAN AND I HATETHAT ABOUT MYSELF.
  • 00:21:58.673 --> 00:22:00.675
  • I CAN BE STINKYSOMETIMES.
  • 00:22:00.776 --> 00:22:04.613
  • NO COMMENT.
  • 00:22:04.713 --> 00:22:06.014
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:06.114 --> 00:22:07.682
  • AND I THINK THAT'S ON THEINSIDE BUT THEN IT'S LIKE
  • 00:22:07.783 --> 00:22:11.153
  • MAN, THESE PEOPLE NEEDJESUS JUST AS MUCH AS I
  • 00:22:11.253 --> 00:22:14.489
  • NEED JESUS, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:22:14.589 --> 00:22:16.425
  • AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEEDTO START, SHARING THE
  • 00:22:16.525 --> 00:22:18.960
  • LOVE OF JESUS.
  • 00:22:19.060 --> 00:22:20.195
  • - YOU'RE IN THE WORD,MAX, SO YOU OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:22:20.295 --> 00:22:21.696
  • HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
  • 00:22:21.797 --> 00:22:23.432
  • - YEAH, WE NEED TOREMEMBER THAT THE BIBLE
  • 00:22:23.532 --> 00:22:25.867
  • WAS WRITTEN IN A CULTUREFAR MORE SEVERE THAN
  • 00:22:25.967 --> 00:22:28.303
  • OURS, RIGHT.
  • 00:22:28.403 --> 00:22:29.404
  • - WHERE ARE YOU AT?
  • 00:22:29.504 --> 00:22:30.839
  • - WELL, I'M INEPHESIANS CHAPTER 4.
  • 00:22:30.939 --> 00:22:34.676
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:22:34.776 --> 00:22:36.478
  • - AND VERSE 29.
  • 00:22:36.578 --> 00:22:38.079
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:39.848
  • - SO YOU KNOW, AGAINWITH THE ROMAN GOVERNMENT
  • 00:22:39.948 --> 00:22:43.218
  • BREATHING DOWN YOUR NECKAND TELLING YOU WE DON'T
  • 00:22:43.318 --> 00:22:46.188
  • WANT YOU TO GATHER, BUTWE'LL KILL YOU IF YOU DO.
  • 00:22:46.288 --> 00:22:50.292
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:22:50.392 --> 00:22:51.426
  • - SO THAT'S THE CULTUREIN WHICH THE CHURCH WAS
  • 00:22:51.526 --> 00:22:53.728
  • BORN WHEN ITLEFT JERUSALEM.
  • 00:22:53.829 --> 00:22:56.398
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:22:56.498 --> 00:22:58.366
  • - SO IT'S IN THATMIND SET PAUL SAID:
  • 00:22:58.467 --> 00:23:00.936
  • - SO EVERY TIME WE OPEN OURMOUTH, LET IT BE IN A WAY
  • 00:23:10.946 --> 00:23:13.448
  • THAT EVERYBODY WHO HEARSHEARS GRACE, EVERYBODY
  • 00:23:13.548 --> 00:23:17.118
  • HEARS HEARS GRACEREGARDLESS IF THEY'RE FOR
  • 00:23:17.219 --> 00:23:19.387
  • US OR IF THEY'REAGAINST US.
  • 00:23:19.488 --> 00:23:22.057
  • AND THEN JUST 3 OR 4VERSES LATER, LET US WALK
  • 00:23:22.157 --> 00:23:25.861
  • IN LOVE AS CHRIST HASLOVED US AND GIVEN
  • 00:23:25.961 --> 00:23:29.097
  • HIMSELF FOR US ANOFFERING AND A SWEET
  • 00:23:29.197 --> 00:23:31.199
  • SACRIFICE TO GOD FOR ASWEET SMELLING AROMA.
  • 00:23:31.299 --> 00:23:34.870
  • - YES.
  • 00:23:34.970 --> 00:23:37.038
  • - YOU KNOW, AGAINIS, WE'RE NOT IN THE
  • 00:23:37.138 --> 00:23:41.042
  • SITUATION CERTAINCHURCHES ARE IN.
  • 00:23:41.142 --> 00:23:43.211
  • I DO THINK THAT THEDEFIANT POSTURE HAS TO
  • 00:23:43.311 --> 00:23:46.915
  • ONLY COME AFTER EVERYOTHER POSSIBILITY HAS
  • 00:23:47.015 --> 00:23:50.785
  • BEEN, HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED.
  • 00:23:50.886 --> 00:23:53.288
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:23:53.388 --> 00:23:54.289
  • SO YOU'RE SAYING YOUCOULD BE PUSHED INTO A
  • 00:23:54.389 --> 00:23:56.625
  • POSITION, BUT YOU'REDEFAULT SWITCH IS GOING
  • 00:23:56.725 --> 00:23:59.895
  • TO SAY LET'S LOVE PEOPLE.
  • 00:23:59.995 --> 00:24:03.365
  • - LET'S LOVE.
  • 00:24:03.465 --> 00:24:04.666
  • - I WAS INTERVIEWING APASTOR NOT LONG AGO, AND
  • 00:24:04.766 --> 00:24:06.535
  • HE I THINK SAID ITCONCISELY ON THAT
  • 00:24:06.635 --> 00:24:09.604
  • PARTICULAR MOMENT THAT,YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO
  • 00:24:09.704 --> 00:24:13.141
  • WIN THESEPEOPLE TO JESUS.
  • 00:24:13.241 --> 00:24:15.710
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:24:15.810 --> 00:24:16.878
  • - SO ARE THEY GOING TOBE WON BY US SHOWING LOVE
  • 00:24:16.978 --> 00:24:20.448
  • AND BEING IN COMPLIANCEWITH THIS KIND OF STUFF?
  • 00:24:20.549 --> 00:24:24.119
  • AND IS THIS GOING TO --ORAM I JUST GOING TO WIN AN
  • 00:24:24.219 --> 00:24:28.790
  • ARGUMENT WITH SOMEBODY?
  • 00:24:28.890 --> 00:24:29.991
  • - YEAH, IT'S NOTA WHO IS WINNING.
  • 00:24:30.091 --> 00:24:34.029
  • WE'RE NOT INTHIS TO WIN IT.
  • 00:24:34.129 --> 00:24:35.697
  • WE'RE NOT INIT TO WIN IT.
  • 00:24:35.797 --> 00:24:37.198
  • THAT'S A FOOTBALL SLOGAN.
  • 00:24:37.299 --> 00:24:39.167
  • WE'RE IN IT TOSERVE, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:24:39.267 --> 00:24:41.403
  • THIS IS NOT AZERO SUM GAME.
  • 00:24:41.503 --> 00:24:43.939
  • IT'S NOT A WE WIN,YOU LOSE TYPE THING.
  • 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.575
  • CHRIST HAS ALREADY WON.
  • 00:24:46.675 --> 00:24:48.376
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:24:48.476 --> 00:24:49.644
  • - THE VICTORYIS ALREADY WON.
  • 00:24:49.744 --> 00:24:50.879
  • WE'RE ON THE WINNINGTEAM, SO WE'VE ALREADY
  • 00:24:50.979 --> 00:24:52.681
  • DECLARED THAT.
  • 00:24:52.781 --> 00:24:53.648
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:24:53.748 --> 00:24:54.849
  • - WE'RE JUST TRYING TOLURE AND ATTRACT AND BE
  • 00:24:54.950 --> 00:24:56.451
  • AS CONTAGIOUS AS WECAN TO HELP OTHERS.
  • 00:24:56.551 --> 00:24:58.453
  • - THEN YOU ARE, AND I'MNOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN
  • 00:24:58.553 --> 00:25:01.923
  • YOUR MOUTH BUT --
  • 00:25:02.023 --> 00:25:03.592
  • - HOW DID YOU GET USON THIS TOPIC?
  • 00:25:03.692 --> 00:25:05.427
  • I THOUGHT WE WERE GOINGTO TALK ABOUT YOU'RE
  • 00:25:05.527 --> 00:25:06.828
  • NEVER ALONE.
  • 00:25:06.928 --> 00:25:07.796
  • - YOU CAN LATER.
  • 00:25:07.896 --> 00:25:09.164
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:09.264 --> 00:25:10.231
  • - SHE'S LIKE --
  • 00:25:10.332 --> 00:25:11.433
  • - THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M
  • 00:25:11.533 --> 00:25:12.434
  • BRINGING YOU ON ONEOF THESE INTERVIEWS.
  • 00:25:12.534 --> 00:25:13.501
  • - OH, MY GOSH.
  • 00:25:13.602 --> 00:25:15.570
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:15.670 --> 00:25:17.305
  • - SO WHAT YOU SEEM TO BESAYING WITHOUT SAYING IT
  • 00:25:17.405 --> 00:25:21.242
  • OR WHAT I'M TAKING AWAYFROM IT IS THAT THERE
  • 00:25:21.343 --> 00:25:25.981
  • COULD BE SOMETHING THECHURCH WASN'T DOING THAT
  • 00:25:26.081 --> 00:25:28.984
  • NEEDS TO BE DOING NOWTHAT THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN
  • 00:25:29.084 --> 00:25:32.787
  • A TOOL IN THE HAND OFGOD TO RESHAPE SOMETHING
  • 00:25:32.887 --> 00:25:37.959
  • GOING ON.
  • 00:25:38.059 --> 00:25:39.027
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:25:39.127 --> 00:25:40.395
  • - OR IT WASN'T HAPPENINGTHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
  • 00:25:40.495 --> 00:25:43.565
  • - YES.
  • 00:25:43.665 --> 00:25:44.799
  • - SEE, I READ SOMETHINGNOT LONG AGO THAT, YOU
  • 00:25:44.899 --> 00:25:47.535
  • KNOW, PHONE CALLS AREN'TBANNED SO YOU COULD STILL
  • 00:25:47.636 --> 00:25:50.138
  • BE DOING THAT.
  • 00:25:50.238 --> 00:25:51.339
  • YOU COULD STILLGIVE OUT FOOD.
  • 00:25:51.439 --> 00:25:53.141
  • YOU CAN STILL GO FINDSOMEONE SHELTERING UNDER
  • 00:25:53.241 --> 00:25:55.310
  • A BRIDGE SOMEWHERE.
  • 00:25:55.410 --> 00:25:56.478
  • - SURE. SURE.
  • 00:25:56.578 --> 00:25:57.612
  • - SO THERE'S A WHOLELOT OF REALLY GOOD JESUS
  • 00:25:57.712 --> 00:25:59.814
  • STUFF THAT ISN'T --
  • 00:25:59.914 --> 00:26:01.383
  • - YOU'RE HITTING THENAIL ON THE HEAD.
  • 00:26:01.483 --> 00:26:02.684
  • - AND ALL THE SUDDENWE'RE MAKING THIS HUGE
  • 00:26:02.784 --> 00:26:04.586
  • ISSUE OF THE NAVEL GAZINGWITH ALL DUE RESPECT OF
  • 00:26:04.686 --> 00:26:09.724
  • COMING TOGETHER WHEN WECOULD BE LOOKING OUTSIDE,
  • 00:26:09.824 --> 00:26:12.927
  • AND WHAT IF GOD ISSHAPING US TO DO
  • 00:26:13.028 --> 00:26:18.500
  • SOMETHING DIFFERENT THATWASN'T BEING DONE IN A MORE --
  • 00:26:18.600 --> 00:26:20.835
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:26:20.935 --> 00:26:22.003
  • - OKAY. MAYBE?
  • 00:26:22.103 --> 00:26:23.772
  • - INSTEAD OF TURNINGTHE CHURCH UPSIDE DOWN,
  • 00:26:23.872 --> 00:26:25.273
  • MAYBE HE'S TURNINGIT RIGHT SIDE UP.
  • 00:26:25.373 --> 00:26:26.474
  • - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:26:26.574 --> 00:26:27.709
  • - YES.
  • 00:26:27.809 --> 00:26:28.710
  • - THE WAY IT'SSUPPOSED TO BE.
  • 00:26:28.810 --> 00:26:29.944
  • - IF I HAD A HIGHLIGHTER, I WOULD
  • 00:26:30.045 --> 00:26:30.679
  • HIGHLIGHT THAT.
  • 00:26:30.779 --> 00:26:31.646
  • - I'LL WRITE THAT DOWNFOR YOU, MAX.
  • 00:26:31.746 --> 00:26:33.848
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:33.948 --> 00:26:35.417
  • - I THINK MAN HASPLANNED FOR A LONG TIME,
  • 00:26:35.517 --> 00:26:38.086
  • HE'S BEEN IN PLANNING,HE'S BEEN IN MEETINGS,
  • 00:26:38.186 --> 00:26:40.622
  • HE'S BEEN DOING THIS ANDTHAT AND GOD IS LIKE, WAIT.
  • 00:26:40.722 --> 00:26:45.560
  • I WANT TO DO THEPLANNING, SO HE JUST KIND
  • 00:26:45.660 --> 00:26:48.630
  • OF STOPS EVERYTHING, ANDWE HAVE TO ASK HIM, WHAT
  • 00:26:48.730 --> 00:26:51.499
  • ARE YOU PLANNING?
  • 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.034
  • LIKE, WHAT AREYOUR PLANS?
  • 00:26:53.134 --> 00:26:54.936
  • YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEPEOPLE, I'M GOING BACK TO
  • 00:26:55.036 --> 00:26:57.272
  • COVID-- [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:57.372 --> 00:27:00.041
  • FOR SOME PEOPLE,
  • 00:27:00.141 --> 00:27:01.609
  • LOVE TO THEM LOOKS LIKEYOU WEARING A MASK.
  • 00:27:01.710 --> 00:27:05.180
  • - YES.
  • 00:27:05.280 --> 00:27:06.681
  • - YOU KNOW, SO CAN WEHUMBLE OURSELVES
  • 00:27:06.781 --> 00:27:09.150
  • AND WEAR A MASK?
  • 00:27:09.250 --> 00:27:10.652
  • I HATE THE MASK. I DO.
  • 00:27:10.752 --> 00:27:12.654
  • I DON'T LIKE SMELLINGMY OWN BREATH,
  • 00:27:12.754 --> 00:27:14.823
  • I DON'T LIKE NOTSEEING PEOPLE'S SMILE.
  • 00:27:14.923 --> 00:27:19.394
  • WE JUST LOVESEEING OUR FACES.
  • 00:27:19.494 --> 00:27:22.897
  • BUT IT MIGHT BE A SIGN OFLOVE TO YOUR NEIGHBOR.
  • 00:27:22.997 --> 00:27:27.702
  • - [LAURIE] TO NOT OFFEND.
  • 00:27:27.802 --> 00:27:29.070
  • - [DENALYN] YEAH, EXACTLY.
  • 00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:31.039
  • THERE'S A LOTTO THINK ABOUT.
  • 00:27:31.139 --> 00:27:34.542
  • - SO MUCH, ISN'T THERE?
  • 00:27:34.642 --> 00:27:36.211
  • - IT'S A CRAZY TIME.IT IS A CRAZY TIME.
  • 00:27:36.311 --> 00:27:39.013
  • - I WANT TO SAYTHIS, MAX LUCADO,
  • 00:27:39.114 --> 00:27:42.083
  • YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELYBLESSED THE SOCKS OFF OF
  • 00:27:42.183 --> 00:27:45.653
  • TBN AND US PERSONALLY.
  • 00:27:45.754 --> 00:27:47.622
  • I THINK YOU KNOWTHAT ALREADY.
  • 00:27:47.722 --> 00:27:49.424
  • BUT OFF OF TBN BECAUSEOF ALL THE FRIDAY NIGHT
  • 00:27:49.524 --> 00:27:53.928
  • SPECIALS YOU HAVE DONE SOBEAUTIFULLY OVER THE
  • 00:27:54.028 --> 00:27:58.700
  • LAST FEW MONTHS, EVERSINCE GOOD FRIDAY,
  • 00:27:58.800 --> 00:28:02.737
  • YOU HAVE DONE A COUPLESERIES RIGHT HERE ON TBN,
  • 00:28:02.837 --> 00:28:05.640
  • AND THAT HAS BEENSUCH AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:09.177
  • EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT WE'REALL TEXTING TOGETHER,
  • 00:28:09.277 --> 00:28:11.913
  • TOM AND YOU AND STEVE ANDEVERYBODY TEXTING HOW
  • 00:28:12.013 --> 00:28:14.783
  • BEAUTIFUL THOSENIGHTS ARE,
  • 00:28:14.883 --> 00:28:16.618
  • AND THEY'RE JUST FILLEDWITH SUCH HOPE AND SUCH
  • 00:28:16.718 --> 00:28:20.455
  • GRACE AND STRENGTHFOR EVERYBODY AROUND,
  • 00:28:20.555 --> 00:28:23.258
  • SO IF YOU NEEDSOMETHING TODAY,
  • 00:28:23.358 --> 00:28:26.161
  • YOU CAN JUST CLICK IT ONAND WATCH AS MUCH AS YOU
  • 00:28:26.261 --> 00:28:29.697
  • WANT OF MAX LUCADO SHARINGJUST THE GOODNESS OF GOD.
  • 00:28:29.798 --> 00:28:34.569
  • - THAT'S VERY SWEET.
  • 00:28:34.669 --> 00:28:35.637
  • - AND I LOVEYOU FOR THAT.
  • 00:28:35.737 --> 00:28:36.638
  • - THANK YOU, BABE.
  • 00:28:36.738 --> 00:28:37.806
  • NOW I HAVE ANOTHERDIFFICULT QUESTION FOR YOU.
  • 00:28:37.906 --> 00:28:40.108
  • - I'M TRYING TO GIVEUS A BREATHER HERE.
  • 00:28:40.208 --> 00:28:42.544
  • THANKS MATT.
  • 00:28:42.644 --> 00:28:43.745
  • - WELL, IF WE ARECOLLECTIVELY UNABLE AND
  • 00:28:43.845 --> 00:28:51.219
  • SOME CHURCHES,IT'S DIFFERENT,
  • 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.087
  • I MEAN THE WHOLE COUNTRYIS KIND OF SWEEPING
  • 00:28:53.188 --> 00:28:56.758
  • THROUGH THIS, BUT ASWE'RE SHOOTING THIS,
  • 00:28:56.858 --> 00:28:59.994
  • IT WAS LAST SUNDAY THAT AJUDGE ORDERED CALIFORNIA
  • 00:29:00.094 --> 00:29:05.633
  • CHURCHES IN THE L.A. COUNTYTO NOT EVEN GATHER.
  • 00:29:05.733 --> 00:29:08.937
  • THAT HAPPENED. THAT'SRIGHT NOW THING.
  • 00:29:09.037 --> 00:29:11.773
  • - EVEN OUT DOORS?
  • 00:29:11.873 --> 00:29:13.675
  • - DON'T GO ON THEPARKING LOT, OKAY?
  • 00:29:13.775 --> 00:29:17.378
  • AND THERE WAS ALSO ONE WEFEATURED IN CHICAGO THAT
  • 00:29:17.478 --> 00:29:21.449
  • THE POLICE PUT UPTEMPORARY NO PARKING
  • 00:29:21.549 --> 00:29:24.819
  • ZONES IN BLOCKSAROUND THE CHURCH,
  • 00:29:24.919 --> 00:29:28.489
  • AND THE THREAT THAT WE'LLFIND MOLD IN YOUR CHURCH
  • 00:29:28.590 --> 00:29:33.361
  • AND DESTROY IT IFYOU DO. OKAY?
  • 00:29:33.461 --> 00:29:36.097
  • SO THERE'S SOME PRETTYSERIOUS CRAZINESS GOING ON.
  • 00:29:36.197 --> 00:29:39.868
  • BUT IF THAT'S HAPPENINGAND IF WE ARE SIMPLY
  • 00:29:39.968 --> 00:29:44.939
  • MEANT TO SERVE, THENTHAT'S GOD'S WAY OF
  • 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.243
  • SAYING GET OUT INTO THESTREETS AND GO VISIT
  • 00:29:48.343 --> 00:29:51.179
  • PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSES,BRING THEM FOOD,
  • 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.448
  • BRING THEM LOVE.
  • 00:29:53.548 --> 00:29:54.782
  • - THE CHURCH HASLEFT THE BUILDING.
  • 00:29:54.883 --> 00:29:56.150
  • - AND A LOT OF PEOPLECAN'T GO THERE.
  • 00:29:56.251 --> 00:29:58.119
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE ARESPOILING FOR A FIGHT
  • 00:29:58.219 --> 00:30:00.588
  • IN REGARD TO THIS.
  • 00:30:00.688 --> 00:30:02.457
  • IS THE LORD SHAPINGUS IN THIS SEASON?
  • 00:30:02.557 --> 00:30:05.927
  • - I THINK SO.
  • 00:30:06.027 --> 00:30:08.263
  • IF THE CHURCH HAS A CHIPON ITS SHOULDER AND SAYS
  • 00:30:08.363 --> 00:30:11.666
  • OKAY, WE'RE GONNA FIGHTTHIS AND THAT KIND OF
  • 00:30:11.766 --> 00:30:14.035
  • POSTURE, I DON'T THINKTHAT SENDS THE KIND OF
  • 00:30:14.135 --> 00:30:19.574
  • MESSAGE ANDSERVES, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:30:19.674 --> 00:30:22.310
  • WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?
  • 00:30:22.410 --> 00:30:24.712
  • I THINK HE WOULD FIND THOSEPEOPLE WHO ARE STILL LONELY.
  • 00:30:24.812 --> 00:30:27.749
  • HE WOULD GET ONLINE,HE WOULD CALL PEOPLE,
  • 00:30:27.849 --> 00:30:31.019
  • HE WOULD TEXT PEOPLE, HEWOULD FEED THE HUNGRY PEOPLE.
  • 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.821
  • AND IF AT SOME POINTWE'RE EVER TOLD
  • 00:30:33.922 --> 00:30:37.125
  • WE CAN'T HELP HUNGRY,MARGINALIZED PEOPLE,
  • 00:30:37.225 --> 00:30:40.094
  • THAT'S A DIFFERENT THINGTHAN BEING TOLD YOU CAN'T
  • 00:30:40.194 --> 00:30:42.697
  • GET TOGETHER IN A GROUPAND PRAY AND TALK,
  • 00:30:42.797 --> 00:30:46.000
  • BECAUSE I'LL FIND AWAY TO GET TOGETHER
  • 00:30:46.100 --> 00:30:48.369
  • IN A GROUP AND PRAYAND TALK SAFELY.
  • 00:30:48.469 --> 00:30:51.072
  • I'LL GO TO THE CITY PARKAND WE'LL STAND SIX FEET
  • 00:30:51.172 --> 00:30:54.042
  • APART AND WE'LL OBSERVEEVERYTHING THAT YOU TELL
  • 00:30:54.142 --> 00:30:56.644
  • US TO OBSERVE, AND WE'RESTILL GONNA PRAY AND
  • 00:30:56.744 --> 00:30:58.313
  • WORSHIP WITHOUTVIOLATING ANY LAW.
  • 00:30:58.413 --> 00:31:00.214
  • I DON'T THINKWE'RE THERE YET.
  • 00:31:00.315 --> 00:31:01.683
  • I THINK THERE'S MUCHTHE CHURCH CAN DO,
  • 00:31:01.783 --> 00:31:04.018
  • AND WE CAN STILL BE THECHURCH FOR A LONG TIME
  • 00:31:04.118 --> 00:31:06.521
  • BEFORE WE NEED TOPUT OUR FISTS UP.
  • 00:31:06.621 --> 00:31:09.123
  • - YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING.
  • 00:31:09.223 --> 00:31:10.658
  • YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TOACTUALLY OPEN YOUR BIBLE
  • 00:31:10.758 --> 00:31:13.928
  • DURING THIS CONVERSATIONAND GO TO EPHESIANS,
  • 00:31:14.028 --> 00:31:16.464
  • AND YOU MADE THE POINTTHAT THE BIBLE WAS
  • 00:31:16.564 --> 00:31:19.200
  • WRITTEN IN A TIME THATTHERE WAS WORSE PRESSURE
  • 00:31:19.300 --> 00:31:25.473
  • FROM GOVERNMENTALAUTHORITY THAN TODAY.
  • 00:31:25.573 --> 00:31:27.809
  • - CERTAINLY.
  • 00:31:27.909 --> 00:31:29.243
  • - SO THE SCRIPTURE ISNOT VOID OF UNDERSTANDING
  • 00:31:29.344 --> 00:31:32.547
  • AND/OR CONTEXT IN REGARDTO SHUT DOWN OR LOCK DOWN
  • 00:31:32.647 --> 00:31:36.851
  • OR ANY OF THAT.
  • 00:31:36.951 --> 00:31:38.319
  • WITH THAT IN MIND, JESUSNEVER PICKED UP ARMS.
  • 00:31:38.419 --> 00:31:43.324
  • HE BASICALLY CHASTISEDSOME OF THE DISCIPLES
  • 00:31:43.424 --> 00:31:47.328
  • FOR BUYING SWORDS.
  • 00:31:47.428 --> 00:31:49.430
  • SOME OF THE DISCIPLESTHOUGHT MAYBE HE WAS
  • 00:31:49.530 --> 00:31:51.966
  • GOING TO GO IN, FLIP OVERTHE TEMPLE TABLES AND
  • 00:31:52.066 --> 00:31:55.570
  • THEN TAKE OVER, AND HEWOULD SIT ON A THRONE AND
  • 00:31:55.670 --> 00:31:59.007
  • BE MESSIAH. HE HAD ACOMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.
  • 00:31:59.107 --> 00:32:02.243
  • SO WHAT WOULD JESUS DO INTHE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC?
  • 00:32:02.343 --> 00:32:05.446
  • THAT'S THE QUESTION.WHAT WOULD HE DO?
  • 00:32:05.546 --> 00:32:07.749
  • - AND THAT'S THEONLY QUESTION.
  • 00:32:07.849 --> 00:32:09.217
  • THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION.
  • 00:32:09.317 --> 00:32:10.752
  • I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT,DO YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE A
  • 00:32:10.852 --> 00:32:12.453
  • SHOT AT THAT BEFORE I DO?
  • 00:32:12.553 --> 00:32:14.555
  • - THE CHURCHES IN L.A. WHOJUST GOT THIS EDICT,
  • 00:32:14.655 --> 00:32:19.994
  • I MEAN I THINK JESUSWOULD MAKE COOKIES AND
  • 00:32:20.094 --> 00:32:22.830
  • TAKE THEM TO THE MAYORAND THE CITY COUNCIL
  • 00:32:22.930 --> 00:32:27.535
  • AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,AND HE WOULD HONOR THEM.
  • 00:32:27.635 --> 00:32:31.773
  • I THINK HE WOULDPRAY FOR THEM.
  • 00:32:31.873 --> 00:32:34.042
  • HE WOULD SPEAK TRUTH TOTHEM BECAUSE REALLY,
  • 00:32:34.142 --> 00:32:37.879
  • THEY CAN'T SHUTDOWN THE CHURCH.
  • 00:32:37.979 --> 00:32:41.015
  • THEY CAN SHUT THEBUILDING DOWN AND THE
  • 00:32:41.115 --> 00:32:43.117
  • PARKING LOT DOWN, BUTTHEY CAN'T SHUT DOWN
  • 00:32:43.217 --> 00:32:45.253
  • THE CHURCH, SO IN MYTHINKING AND WONDERING,
  • 00:32:45.353 --> 00:32:51.325
  • I WOULD WONDER OKAY, THEBUILDING IS SHUT DOWN,
  • 00:32:51.426 --> 00:32:54.128
  • THE PARKING LOTIS SHUT DOWN,
  • 00:32:54.228 --> 00:32:56.431
  • SO LORD WHAT ARE YOUTELLING YOUR PEOPLE?
  • 00:32:56.531 --> 00:32:58.900
  • SO I THINK WESHOULD ASK LORD,
  • 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.601
  • WHAT ARE YOU TELLING US?
  • 00:33:00.701 --> 00:33:02.203
  • WHERE WOULD YOU SENDUS, LIKE YOU WERE.
  • 00:33:02.303 --> 00:33:04.138
  • THERE'S MUCH TO BEDONE BY THE CHURCH.
  • 00:33:04.238 --> 00:33:07.308
  • WE GATHER INSIDEOUR WALLS AND WE DO
  • 00:33:07.408 --> 00:33:10.478
  • WONDERFUL, WE LOVEGATHERING AND WORSHIPPING
  • 00:33:10.578 --> 00:33:13.448
  • TOGETHER, AND THAT'S APART OF THE EQUIPPING
  • 00:33:13.548 --> 00:33:16.250
  • THAT HE DOES IN OURHEARTS TO GO OUT INTO THE
  • 00:33:16.350 --> 00:33:19.087
  • WORLD, BUT NOT ASDEFIANT, ARROGANT,
  • 00:33:19.187 --> 00:33:24.158
  • SELF-RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE,BUT AS HUMBLE PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:33:24.258 --> 00:33:28.196
  • WANT TO SERVEMANKIND AS HE DID.
  • 00:33:28.296 --> 00:33:31.299
  • - YOU'RE SO BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:33:31.399 --> 00:33:32.867
  • - [MAX] ISN'T SHE GREAT?
  • 00:33:32.967 --> 00:33:34.168
  • - SUPER SWEET.
  • 00:33:34.268 --> 00:33:35.837
  • - OKAY, SO HERE'STHE SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:33:35.937 --> 00:33:38.339
  • DO YOU WANT TO BE UNAFRAIDOF AUTHORITY, ROMANS 13,
  • 00:33:38.439 --> 00:33:42.510
  • DO YOU WANT TO BE UNAFRAIDOF THE AUTHORITY?
  • 00:33:42.610 --> 00:33:44.745
  • DO WHAT IS GOOD.THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.
  • 00:33:44.846 --> 00:33:48.182
  • DO WHAT IS GOOD
  • 00:33:48.282 --> 00:33:49.383
  • AND YOU WILL HAVEPRAISE FROM THE SAME.
  • 00:33:49.484 --> 00:33:51.385
  • SO HERE'S THE PROMISE.THERE'S THE PROMISE.
  • 00:33:51.486 --> 00:33:53.921
  • YOU WANT TO BE UNAFRAIDOF WHATEVER AUTHORITY,
  • 00:33:54.021 --> 00:33:55.756
  • IS IN THE CONTEXT OFSUBMIT TO THE GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:33:55.857 --> 00:33:58.559
  • HE SAYS GO OUT ANDDO GOOD THINGS.
  • 00:33:58.659 --> 00:34:00.561
  • GO OUT AND DO GOOD THINGSAND LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:34:00.661 --> 00:34:03.531
  • - SO...
  • 00:34:03.631 --> 00:34:04.732
  • - QUIT IT, MATT.
  • 00:34:04.832 --> 00:34:05.867
  • - SO SET THE STAGE.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:05.967 --> 00:34:07.502
  • - CAN WE GETBACK TO THE BOOK.
  • 00:34:07.602 --> 00:34:09.303
  • - WE WILL. WE WILL.
  • 00:34:09.403 --> 00:34:10.705
  • - THIS IS ALL GOOD, HONEY.
  • 00:34:10.805 --> 00:34:12.473
  • - WHEN WAS CORINTHIANSWRITTEN, BY WHO,
  • 00:34:12.573 --> 00:34:16.244
  • WHAT DID HE SUFFER, KINDOF IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
  • 00:34:16.344 --> 00:34:19.947
  • KNOW, WE'RE TALKING--THERE COULD BE SOMEBODY
  • 00:34:20.047 --> 00:34:22.617
  • WATCHING GOING THESE GUYSAT LEAST SOUND REASONABLE.
  • 00:34:22.717 --> 00:34:26.187
  • WHAT WAS PAUL'S CONTEXTAND WHEN WAS THIS WRITTEN?
  • 00:34:26.287 --> 00:34:29.957
  • KIND OF EXPLAIN ITBECAUSE IT'S A GOOD POINT.
  • 00:34:30.057 --> 00:34:32.393
  • - WELL, THE BIG IDEAIS THAT THE BIBLE WAS
  • 00:34:32.493 --> 00:34:34.762
  • WRITTEN FORTIMES LIKE THESE.
  • 00:34:34.862 --> 00:34:37.231
  • I THINK THAT'S AWONDERFUL THOUGHT,
  • 00:34:37.331 --> 00:34:38.633
  • THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN--- "IN" TIMES.
  • 00:34:38.733 --> 00:34:40.801
  • - IN TIMES, GOODCLARIFICATION.
  • 00:34:40.902 --> 00:34:43.337
  • WRITTEN IN THEMIDDLE OF OPPRESSION.
  • 00:34:43.437 --> 00:34:45.806
  • WRITTEN IN THE MIDDLE.
  • 00:34:45.907 --> 00:34:47.441
  • THERE IS IN THE NEWTESTAMENT FOUR EPISTLES,
  • 00:34:47.542 --> 00:34:49.677
  • WE CALL THEM THE PRISONEPISTLES BECAUSE THE
  • 00:34:49.777 --> 00:34:52.480
  • APOSTLE WROTE THEM INPRISON CHAINED TO A ROMAN
  • 00:34:52.580 --> 00:34:56.817
  • GUARD, PROBABLY WITHINEARSHOT OF THE FOOTSTEPS
  • 00:34:56.918 --> 00:35:02.390
  • OF AN EXECUTIONER WHOCOULD COME AT ANY MOMENT
  • 00:35:02.490 --> 00:35:05.526
  • TAKING HIM TOBE BEHEADED.
  • 00:35:05.626 --> 00:35:09.130
  • SO THAT WAS THE WORLDIN WHICH THEY LIVED.
  • 00:35:09.230 --> 00:35:11.699
  • THE WORLD IN WHICH THEYLIVED WAS WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:35:11.799 --> 00:35:13.768
  • WORSHIP BUT WE'REGONNA HAVE TO GO
  • 00:35:13.868 --> 00:35:15.336
  • DOWN IN THE CATACOMBS.
  • 00:35:15.436 --> 00:35:16.637
  • THAT'S WHY THE CATACOMBSIN ROME ARE SO FAMOUS
  • 00:35:16.737 --> 00:35:18.372
  • BECAUSE THEY WENTUNDERGROUND.
  • 00:35:18.472 --> 00:35:20.608
  • THEY COULDN'T BE PUBLIC.
  • 00:35:20.708 --> 00:35:22.109
  • THEY SAID WE'RE GONNAFIND A WAY TO SERVE ONE
  • 00:35:22.210 --> 00:35:25.780
  • ANOTHER AND TO CAREFOR ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.249
  • AND IN SOME OF THE HISTORICALSTUDY OF EPIDEMICS --
  • 00:35:28.349 --> 00:35:31.686
  • PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I'MNOT AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST.
  • 00:35:31.786 --> 00:35:33.721
  • I'LL PROBABLY GETCORRECTED ON THIS,
  • 00:35:33.821 --> 00:35:35.423
  • BUT CHRISTIANS, BECAUSETHEY WOULD SERVE IN THE
  • 00:35:35.523 --> 00:35:38.192
  • EARLY OUTBREAKS OFMEASLES IN THE SECOND AND
  • 00:35:38.292 --> 00:35:40.795
  • THIRD CENTURIES WERECOMMENDED BY THE
  • 00:35:40.895 --> 00:35:43.097
  • GOVERNMENT BECAUSETHEY WERE THE,
  • 00:35:43.197 --> 00:35:44.799
  • OR BY THE EMPEROR BECAUSETHEY WERE THE ONES WHO
  • 00:35:44.899 --> 00:35:48.002
  • WOULD STILL CARE FOR THESICK WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE
  • 00:35:48.102 --> 00:35:50.004
  • WAS LEAVING THE SICKON THE STREETS TO DIE,
  • 00:35:50.104 --> 00:35:52.707
  • SO THEY WEREDOING GOOD THINGS.
  • 00:35:52.807 --> 00:35:54.575
  • THEY WERE DOINGGOOD THINGS,
  • 00:35:54.675 --> 00:35:56.143
  • AND THEY WOULD CALL THISBEING SALT AND LIGHT.
  • 00:35:56.244 --> 00:35:59.247
  • SO I GUESS I'M STILLSAYING LET'S KEEP DOING
  • 00:35:59.347 --> 00:36:03.751
  • THOSE GOOD THINGS, LET'SKEEP TAKING COOKIES TO
  • 00:36:03.851 --> 00:36:06.754
  • THE COURTHOUSE, TAKINGFOOD TO THE POOR,
  • 00:36:06.854 --> 00:36:09.924
  • AND KEEP LOVING PEOPLEAND SERVING PEOPLE,
  • 00:36:10.024 --> 00:36:12.193
  • WHATEVER WAY WEFIND POSSIBLE.
  • 00:36:12.293 --> 00:36:14.228
  • IT COULD COME TOTHE POINT WE HAVE TO
  • 00:36:14.328 --> 00:36:15.696
  • TAKE A FIRMER STAND.
  • 00:36:15.796 --> 00:36:17.765
  • - BUT I LOVE WHAT YOUSAID WHEN YOU SAID YOU
  • 00:36:17.865 --> 00:36:20.334
  • CAN'T SHUT DOWNTHE CHURCH.
  • 00:36:20.434 --> 00:36:21.802
  • - TRUE.
  • 00:36:21.902 --> 00:36:23.804
  • - THAT'S GOD. THAT'SGOD'S CHURCH.
  • 00:36:23.904 --> 00:36:26.574
  • THERE'S NO MANTHAT CAN DO THAT,
  • 00:36:26.674 --> 00:36:29.744
  • SO LET THE CHURCH BE THECHURCH AND THE CHURCH OF
  • 00:36:29.844 --> 00:36:34.415
  • ACTS WHICH WAS THATSMALL COMMUNITY.
  • 00:36:34.515 --> 00:36:37.985
  • - IT WAS THREE CENTURIESBEFORE WE EVEN ARE SURE
  • 00:36:38.085 --> 00:36:40.421
  • THERE WAS ACHURCH BUILDING.
  • 00:36:40.521 --> 00:36:42.189
  • SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE IFWE CAN'T MEET IN OUR
  • 00:36:42.290 --> 00:36:46.227
  • BUILDINGS, BUTMY GOODNESS,
  • 00:36:46.327 --> 00:36:48.095
  • THE WORLD WAS CHANGEDWITHOUT BUILDINGS.
  • 00:36:48.195 --> 00:36:51.232
  • - AND I LOVE ARTHURBLESSITT WHEN HE WAS
  • 00:36:51.332 --> 00:36:55.670
  • WALKING ACROSS THE WHOLEGLOBE WITH HIS CROSS,
  • 00:36:55.770 --> 00:36:59.974
  • THE LORD SPOKE TO HIM ONEDAY AND SAID MAKE YOUR
  • 00:37:00.074 --> 00:37:03.110
  • VISION AND MAKE YOURMISSION ONLY AS BIG AS
  • 00:37:03.210 --> 00:37:07.181
  • THE NEXT PERSON YOU SEE.AND LET THAT BE IT.
  • 00:37:07.281 --> 00:37:12.053
  • JUST THE NEXTPERSON YOU SEE.
  • 00:37:12.153 --> 00:37:14.488
  • - [MAX] THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
  • 00:37:14.588 --> 00:37:15.756
  • - HAVE YOURMISSION BE THAT,
  • 00:37:15.856 --> 00:37:17.224
  • AND IF WE ALL DID THAT,IT CHANGE THE WORLD.
  • 00:37:17.325 --> 00:37:20.161
  • - [DENALYN] IT WOULD.
  • 00:37:20.261 --> 00:37:21.595
  • - OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHERIMPORTANT THING TO SAY.
  • 00:37:21.696 --> 00:37:24.932
  • - BRING IT ON.
  • 00:37:25.032 --> 00:37:26.233
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:37:26.334 --> 00:37:28.969
  • - I'M GONNA SAY THATTHIS DISCUSSION,
  • 00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:32.573
  • ON A SCALE OF ONE TO TENON A SWEETNESS SCALE,
  • 00:37:32.673 --> 00:37:36.277
  • IS ABOUT A TEN.
  • 00:37:36.377 --> 00:37:37.678
  • - PRETTY MUCHOFF THE CHART.
  • 00:37:37.778 --> 00:37:39.480
  • - IN OTHER WORDS, IFYOU'RE GONNA ALWAYS ACT
  • 00:37:39.580 --> 00:37:42.450
  • LIKE JESUS, YOU'RE GONNALOVE YOUR ENEMY TO THE
  • 00:37:42.550 --> 00:37:45.386
  • POINT WHERE YOU TURN THEOTHER CHEEK AND YOU GO
  • 00:37:45.486 --> 00:37:48.322
  • THE EXTRA MILE, AND YOUKNOW SO THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:37:48.422 --> 00:37:50.758
  • YOU'RE REALLY DISCUSSING.
  • 00:37:50.858 --> 00:37:52.860
  • IF I JUST TAKE EVERYTHINGTHAT YOU'VE BOTH SAID AT
  • 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.730
  • FACE VALUE, I'M GONNADECLARE THEN GOD IS
  • 00:37:55.830 --> 00:38:00.768
  • RESHAPING THE CHURCH,BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
  • 00:38:00.868 --> 00:38:05.239
  • CHURCH DOESN'T LOOK LIKEWHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:38:05.339 --> 00:38:08.843
  • IT LOOKS LIKE BIG MASSGATHERINGS OF PEOPLE,
  • 00:38:08.943 --> 00:38:13.314
  • AND THEY'RE ALL INSIDEOF AN AIR CONDITIONED
  • 00:38:13.414 --> 00:38:16.317
  • BUILDING, AND GOD MIGHT BEMAKING A STATEMENT HERE.
  • 00:38:16.417 --> 00:38:21.222
  • IS THAT, I MEAN I'MREVERSE DEDUCING THAT,
  • 00:38:21.322 --> 00:38:24.158
  • BUT YOU'RE NODDINGAT ME AT LEAST MAX.
  • 00:38:24.258 --> 00:38:28.896
  • - YES. YES. THISIS GOOD FOR US.
  • 00:38:28.996 --> 00:38:34.668
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:38:34.769 --> 00:38:35.970
  • - THIS IS GOOD FOR US,AND IT'S GOOD FOR US
  • 00:38:36.070 --> 00:38:37.972
  • TO BE DECENTRALIZED.
  • 00:38:38.072 --> 00:38:40.007
  • - IS IT A BUTTWHOOPING BY THE LORD?
  • 00:38:40.107 --> 00:38:42.610
  • - CORRECTIONAL. BUTT WHOOPINGIS A CLASSIC MATT WORD.
  • 00:38:42.710 --> 00:38:47.381
  • - WELL, AND YOU KNOW YOUSAY THIS IS ALL SWEET AND
  • 00:38:47.481 --> 00:38:51.685
  • ALL THIS, BUT YOU KNOWWHAT, IF IT'S EXERCISED,
  • 00:38:51.786 --> 00:38:55.356
  • IT'S POWERFUL BECAUSETHIS KIND OF ATTITUDE OF
  • 00:38:55.456 --> 00:39:00.027
  • HUMILITY IS ONLY LEDBY THE HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:39:00.127 --> 00:39:03.164
  • SO IT IS FULL OF POWER,SO MUCH POWER THAT IT
  • 00:39:03.264 --> 00:39:05.966
  • CHANGES PEOPLE AND ITREDIRECTS WHAT THEY THINK
  • 00:39:06.066 --> 00:39:09.770
  • OR WHAT THEY SEE, WHATTHEY THINK ABOUT CHRIST,
  • 00:39:09.870 --> 00:39:12.640
  • SO IT SOUNDS SWEET, BUTI THINK IT'S LIKE MIGHTY
  • 00:39:12.740 --> 00:39:17.578
  • AND IT'S POWERFUL.
  • 00:39:17.678 --> 00:39:19.180
  • IT'S LIKE I WAS TELLINGLAURIE TODAY HOW GOD HAS
  • 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.249
  • TAUGHT ME THE WAY HE'STAUGHT ME TO BATTLE WITH
  • 00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:24.919
  • HIM IS IN 2 CHRONICLES20 WITH JEHOSHAPHAT.
  • 00:39:25.019 --> 00:39:29.089
  • AND YOU KNOW HOWHE SAYS TO BATTLE?
  • 00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:31.358
  • PRAISE AND WORSHIPAND PRAYER.
  • 00:39:31.459 --> 00:39:34.195
  • WELL THAT SOUNDSSWEET, DOESN'T IT?
  • 00:39:34.295 --> 00:39:36.230
  • BUT THAT IS MIGHTY ANDTHAT IS POWERFUL,
  • 00:39:36.330 --> 00:39:39.500
  • AND WE WOULD RATHER PICKUP OUR SWORDS LIKE YOU
  • 00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:41.936
  • SAID PETER DID, CUT THEGUY'S EAR OFF, BUT
  • 00:39:42.036 --> 00:39:45.406
  • JESUS WENT NO, AND HEHEALED HIS EAR.
  • 00:39:45.506 --> 00:39:48.409
  • SO IT SOUNDS SWEET BUT ITHINK IT IS THE KIND--
  • 00:39:48.509 --> 00:39:52.713
  • YOU KNOW IT'S THE KINDNESSOF THE LORD THAT LEADS
  • 00:39:52.813 --> 00:39:55.149
  • PEOPLE TO REPENTANCE, SOIT HAS TO BE THE KINDNESS
  • 00:39:55.249 --> 00:39:58.886
  • OF HIS PEOPLE THATAWAKEN THEM TO HIM,
  • 00:39:58.986 --> 00:40:03.891
  • TO WHO HE IS.
  • 00:40:03.991 --> 00:40:06.393
  • - ISN'T SHE BEAUTIFUL?
  • 00:40:06.494 --> 00:40:09.363
  • - I LIKE DOING THIS.
  • 00:40:10.798 --> 00:40:12.366
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:12.466 --> 00:40:15.836
  • - OKAY, UM, I LIKE THETACK THAT WE'VE TAKEN.
  • 00:40:15.936 --> 00:40:21.642
  • WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OFTHESE CONVERSATIONS,
  • 00:40:21.742 --> 00:40:26.580
  • LAURIE AND I HAVE, ANDI'M PICKING UP SOME
  • 00:40:26.680 --> 00:40:32.286
  • CONNECTED PIECES TO SOMEOF THE OTHERS THAT ARE
  • 00:40:32.386 --> 00:40:34.622
  • SAYING A LOT OF THINGS,BUT WHAT ULTIMATELY WILL
  • 00:40:34.722 --> 00:40:40.528
  • SWING BACK TO IS THEPERSONALIZATION
  • 00:40:40.628 --> 00:40:43.864
  • OF THIS TIME.
  • 00:40:43.964 --> 00:40:46.166
  • YEAH, WE MIGHT NOT BE INA PARKING LOT AND IN AN
  • 00:40:46.267 --> 00:40:50.971
  • AIR CONDITIONED CHURCHAT THIS SEASON OF TIME,
  • 00:40:51.071 --> 00:40:55.309
  • OR IF WE ARE THERE'SREALLY WEIRD THINGS GOING
  • 00:40:55.409 --> 00:40:58.412
  • ON LIKE DISTANCING INSIDEOF THE PEWS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:40:58.512 --> 00:41:03.450
  • IT'S JUST A GAME CHANGERTO ALL OF OUR LIVES.
  • 00:41:03.551 --> 00:41:07.688
  • BUT WHAT GOD MIGHT BESAYING TO THE CHURCH IS
  • 00:41:07.788 --> 00:41:11.025
  • DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HEMIGHT BE SAYING TO AN
  • 00:41:11.125 --> 00:41:13.294
  • INDIVIDUAL. AND ATTHIS POINT IN TIME,
  • 00:41:13.394 --> 00:41:17.097
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU,A WHOSOEVER PERSON,
  • 00:41:17.197 --> 00:41:21.936
  • AND ULTIMATELY THISCOULD BE A GIFT,
  • 00:41:22.036 --> 00:41:26.340
  • COVID AND THE SHUTDOWNCOULD BE A GIFT BECAUSE
  • 00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.311
  • WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ISYOU'RE NEVER GOING TO
  • 00:41:30.411 --> 00:41:33.614
  • CURE LONELINESS WITHA GROUP OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:41:33.714 --> 00:41:36.650
  • ONLY BY YOURRELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 00:41:36.750 --> 00:41:39.520
  • SO START THE PROCESS ALITTLE BIT MAX OF WINDING
  • 00:41:39.620 --> 00:41:44.792
  • THIS UP, MAYBE ALMOSTCIRCLING BACK TO THE
  • 00:41:44.892 --> 00:41:48.462
  • BEGINNING BECAUSE THAT'SWHAT YOU WERE KIND OF
  • 00:41:48.562 --> 00:41:50.598
  • DECLARING EARLY THAT IFYOU THINK BEING IN THE
  • 00:41:50.698 --> 00:41:55.135
  • MIDDLE OF A SOCIALEVENT IS THE CURE FOR
  • 00:41:55.235 --> 00:41:58.238
  • LONELINESS,YOU ARE WRONG.
  • 00:41:58.339 --> 00:42:00.908
  • - YEAH. YEAH.
  • 00:42:01.008 --> 00:42:02.977
  • AND IF YOU DON'T MIND,I CAN TALK DIRECTLY TO
  • 00:42:03.077 --> 00:42:05.479
  • PEOPLE WHO ARE LONELYBECAUSE THERE ARE MANY
  • 00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:08.382
  • MANY OF YOU, AND YOU'RELISTENING IN ON THIS
  • 00:42:08.482 --> 00:42:10.985
  • CONVERSATION THINKINGTHAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING
  • 00:42:11.085 --> 00:42:13.621
  • THIS DISCUSSION OF CIVILDISCOURSE IN A TIME OF
  • 00:42:13.721 --> 00:42:17.157
  • RELIGIOUS CONFUSION, BUTYOU'RE REALLY THINKING
  • 00:42:17.257 --> 00:42:20.561
  • WHERE IS GOD?
  • 00:42:20.661 --> 00:42:23.097
  • WHERE IS GOD?DOES HE CARE ABOUT ME?
  • 00:42:23.197 --> 00:42:26.100
  • MY HUSBAND'S BEENDIAGNOSED WITH COVID,
  • 00:42:26.200 --> 00:42:28.135
  • HE'S IN ER, OR THEY'RESHUTTING DOWN MORE PEOPLE
  • 00:42:28.235 --> 00:42:32.406
  • ARE BEING LAID OFF ATWORK AND I THINK I'M NEXT.
  • 00:42:32.506 --> 00:42:35.342
  • OR I'M OUT OF WORK, ANDLIKE ONE MAN TOLD ME,
  • 00:42:35.442 --> 00:42:37.845
  • I'M SENDING OUT AHUNDRED RESUMES DAY,
  • 00:42:37.945 --> 00:42:40.648
  • AND I'M 46 YEARS OLDAND I'VE GOT TWO KIDS,
  • 00:42:40.748 --> 00:42:44.151
  • AND THIS IS NO FUN, ANDI'M A SUCCESSFUL PERSON,
  • 00:42:44.251 --> 00:42:47.121
  • AND NOW I FEELLIKE A WIMP,
  • 00:42:47.221 --> 00:42:48.822
  • I CAN'T PROVIDEFOR MY FAMILY,
  • 00:42:48.922 --> 00:42:50.524
  • SO IT'S JUSTCOMING IN ON YOU.
  • 00:42:50.624 --> 00:42:52.660
  • IT'S JUST COMING IN.
  • 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:54.261
  • I PRAY LORD JESUS,HAVE MERCY PLEASE.
  • 00:42:54.361 --> 00:42:57.297
  • HAVE MERCY PLEASE UPONTHESE PEOPLE WHO ARE
  • 00:42:57.398 --> 00:42:59.933
  • STRUGGLING SO DEEPLY. ANDI WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU,
  • 00:43:00.034 --> 00:43:03.237
  • BE OPEN TO THEPOSSIBILITY OF A
  • 00:43:03.337 --> 00:43:07.007
  • SPIRITUAL INTERVENTION.JUST BE OPEN TO IT.
  • 00:43:07.107 --> 00:43:10.611
  • THERE'S ONE OF THEMIRACLES WE TALK ABOUT IN
  • 00:43:10.711 --> 00:43:12.479
  • THIS BOOK ABOUT THE BEGGARAT THE POOL OF BETHESDA.
  • 00:43:12.579 --> 00:43:16.350
  • AND HE HAD BEEN LYING INTHIS AREA WHERE THE SICK
  • 00:43:16.450 --> 00:43:21.255
  • GATHERED NEAR THEPOOL OF BETHESDA,
  • 00:43:21.355 --> 00:43:23.223
  • AND HE HAD BEENTHERE EVERY DAY FOR
  • 00:43:23.323 --> 00:43:24.458
  • 39 YEARS, MAYBE 40.
  • 00:43:24.558 --> 00:43:26.860
  • AND THE FIRST QUESTION OFCHRIST TO HIM WAS
  • 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.696
  • DO YOU WANT TO GET WELL?DO YOU WANT TO GET WELL?
  • 00:43:28.796 --> 00:43:32.800
  • I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THATQUESTION DIDN'T NEED TO
  • 00:43:32.900 --> 00:43:34.501
  • BE ANSWERED, BUTI'D LIKE TO ASK YOU,
  • 00:43:34.601 --> 00:43:36.303
  • WOULD YOU LIKETO GET BETTER?
  • 00:43:36.403 --> 00:43:37.838
  • WOULD YOU LIKE TOHAVE A NEW DAY,
  • 00:43:37.938 --> 00:43:39.773
  • A NEW OPPORTUNITY, A NEWWAY OF LOOKING AT LIFE?
  • 00:43:39.873 --> 00:43:42.710
  • IF SO, THIS ISTHE OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:43:42.810 --> 00:43:44.978
  • THIS IS THE MOMENT FORYOU TO SAY OKAY LORD,
  • 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.648
  • I WANT YOU TO GOFIND A CORNER,
  • 00:43:47.748 --> 00:43:49.383
  • GET ON YOUR KNEES,LIFT UP YOUR HANDS,
  • 00:43:49.483 --> 00:43:52.853
  • GET OUT IN THE BACKYARD,GET IN THE CLOSET,
  • 00:43:52.953 --> 00:43:55.189
  • GO SOMEWHERE ANDJUST SAY I NEED HELP,
  • 00:43:55.289 --> 00:43:57.925
  • I NEED SOMEBODYTO TALK TO ME.
  • 00:43:58.025 --> 00:43:59.927
  • AND I BELIEVE THATJESUS WILL MEET YOU,
  • 00:44:00.027 --> 00:44:02.429
  • HE'LL HEAR YOU, OPENYOUR MOUTH, TALK TO HIM,
  • 00:44:02.529 --> 00:44:04.832
  • OPEN YOUR BIBLE,LET HIM TALK TO YOU,
  • 00:44:04.932 --> 00:44:08.669
  • AND JUST BE QUIET IN THEPRESENCE OF THE LORD.
  • 00:44:08.769 --> 00:44:11.338
  • BUT PLEASE, MY LASTTHOUGHT TO YOU IS DON'T
  • 00:44:11.438 --> 00:44:13.774
  • GIVE IN TO DESPAIR. DON'TGIVE IN TO DESPAIR.
  • 00:44:13.874 --> 00:44:17.845
  • ALLOW GOD TO BRING YOUBACK OFF THE LEDGE.
  • 00:44:17.945 --> 00:44:20.814
  • DESPAIR TURNS YOU, ITRELEASES YOU INTO THAT
  • 00:44:20.914 --> 00:44:24.551
  • SINK HOLE AND IT'SHARD TO GET OUT.
  • 00:44:24.651 --> 00:44:27.087
  • BELIEVE THAT A GOOD GODIS WATCHING YOU AND CARING
  • 00:44:27.187 --> 00:44:29.623
  • FOR YOU, AND HE'S GONNAHELP YOU GET THROUGH THIS.
  • 00:44:29.723 --> 00:44:33.594
  • - A DIRECTOR WHO CALLSACTION AND STARTS A MOVIE
  • 00:44:33.694 --> 00:44:38.932
  • SCENE DETERMINES WHERETHE CAMERA GOES.
  • 00:44:39.032 --> 00:44:41.802
  • AND I FIND IT INTERESTINGWHAT HAPPENED AT THE
  • 00:44:41.902 --> 00:44:44.037
  • VERY BEGINNING OFTHIS BROADCAST.
  • 00:44:44.138 --> 00:44:45.973
  • I KIND OF SAID HELLO, ANDTHEN LAURIE JUMPED IN,
  • 00:44:46.073 --> 00:44:49.009
  • AND THEN DENALYN JUMPED IN,AND THIS STARTED OUT WITH
  • 00:44:49.109 --> 00:44:52.780
  • THIS KIND OF FEEL THAT WEWERE GONNA TALK ABOUT
  • 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.552
  • A PANDEMIC IN AVERY UNIQUE WAY.
  • 00:44:58.652 --> 00:45:01.655
  • AND IF I THINK BACK OVERTHE LAST 40 SOMETHING
  • 00:45:01.755 --> 00:45:05.225
  • MINUTES, THERE IS ADECLARATION BEING MADE BY
  • 00:45:05.325 --> 00:45:11.231
  • THE LUCADOS, WHO AREHERE WITH US IN WESTERN
  • 00:45:11.331 --> 00:45:14.001
  • COLORADO, THAT HUMILITYIS REALLY STRENGTH,
  • 00:45:14.101 --> 00:45:18.772
  • HUMILITY IS REALLY POWER,THAT CHANGE REALLY COMES
  • 00:45:18.872 --> 00:45:22.776
  • FROM NOT WINNING ACONVERSATION BUT SERVING,
  • 00:45:22.876 --> 00:45:27.815
  • AND INSIDE OFA COVID SEASON,
  • 00:45:27.915 --> 00:45:31.118
  • DID THAT COMENATURALLY TO YOU BOTH?
  • 00:45:31.218 --> 00:45:34.721
  • DENALYN, IT DID TO YOU.
  • 00:45:34.822 --> 00:45:36.690
  • YOU STARTED THIS WHOLESHOW BY SAYING SOMETHING
  • 00:45:36.790 --> 00:45:39.827
  • LIKE I STARTED TO ASSESSWHAT IS GOD SAYING?
  • 00:45:39.927 --> 00:45:43.597
  • NOT A LOT OFPEOPLE DID THAT.
  • 00:45:43.697 --> 00:45:45.699
  • MAX, DID YOU OR DID YOUHAVE TO LISTEN TO HER?
  • 00:45:45.799 --> 00:45:47.568
  • - I ALWAYSLISTEN TO DENALYN.
  • 00:45:47.668 --> 00:45:49.236
  • I TAKE MY CUESFROM MY WIFE.
  • 00:45:49.336 --> 00:45:50.838
  • - BUT DID YOU NATURALLYSAY THAT INSIDE YOURSELF
  • 00:45:50.938 --> 00:45:54.174
  • OR DID YOU HAVETO COME TO THAT?
  • 00:45:54.274 --> 00:45:56.176
  • - WELL, THAT WAS ANEARLY CONVERSATION WE HAD
  • 00:45:56.276 --> 00:45:59.146
  • LAST MARCH. WE WEREBOTH TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:45:59.246 --> 00:46:02.082
  • NOW WHAT'S GOD UP TO?
  • 00:46:02.182 --> 00:46:03.851
  • THERE'S GOT TOBE SOMETHING.
  • 00:46:03.951 --> 00:46:05.018
  • - FOR REAL.
  • 00:46:05.118 --> 00:46:06.453
  • OKAY, SO THAT'S YOURNATURAL WAY TO START
  • 00:46:06.553 --> 00:46:09.656
  • ASSESSING SITUATIONS,GOD WHAT ARE YOU SAYING,
  • 00:46:09.756 --> 00:46:12.459
  • BECAUSE NOT A LOTOF PEOPLE SAID GOD,
  • 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.461
  • WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. THEY SAIDDEVIL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING,
  • 00:46:14.561 --> 00:46:17.030
  • NOT GOD WHATARE YOU SAYING.
  • 00:46:17.130 --> 00:46:19.366
  • - WE DIDN'T GO THERE. WEDIDN'T GO TO THE DEVIL.
  • 00:46:19.466 --> 00:46:21.435
  • WE BELIEVE JESUSHAS ALL AUTHORITY,
  • 00:46:21.535 --> 00:46:24.805
  • AND THAT WE DON'TUNDERSTAND EVERYTHING
  • 00:46:24.905 --> 00:46:26.173
  • THAT HE DOES, BUT HEDOESN'T LET ANYTHING
  • 00:46:26.273 --> 00:46:27.741
  • HAPPEN THAT'S NOTULTIMATELY GOOD FOR US AS
  • 00:46:27.841 --> 00:46:29.910
  • WE, TO THE DEGREE WE REMAININ SUBMISSION TO HIM.
  • 00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:33.247
  • - BUT A LOT OF BADTHINGS HAPPENED IN COVID.
  • 00:46:33.347 --> 00:46:36.550
  • - [MAX] NO DOUBT.
  • 00:46:36.650 --> 00:46:38.085
  • - BUT YOU WERE ABLE TOSTART PROCESSING THIS
  • 00:46:38.185 --> 00:46:42.055
  • INFORMATION OF DAILYBRIEFINGS AT THE WHITE
  • 00:46:42.155 --> 00:46:45.292
  • HOUSE, AND DOCTORFAUCI, AND ALL THE,
  • 00:46:45.392 --> 00:46:49.029
  • WE ALL EXPERIENCEDIT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 00:46:49.129 --> 00:46:51.732
  • WE'RE HAVING TO WATCH THENEWS TO SEE IF WE WERE
  • 00:46:51.832 --> 00:46:54.835
  • GONNA BE ABLE TOTRAVEL THIS WEEKEND,
  • 00:46:54.935 --> 00:46:57.537
  • OR IF THERE WAS GONNABE A TRAVEL BAN,
  • 00:46:57.638 --> 00:47:00.407
  • NOT JUST FROM ASIA OREUROPE OR OTHER PLACES,
  • 00:47:00.507 --> 00:47:03.277
  • BUT EVEN STATE TO STATE,THAT WAS A THING THAT
  • 00:47:03.377 --> 00:47:05.846
  • WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT.
  • 00:47:05.946 --> 00:47:07.481
  • SO WE'RE ALLWATCHING THE NEWS.
  • 00:47:07.581 --> 00:47:09.116
  • SO I'M HERE THINKING MAN,I DON'T THINK I WAS GOING
  • 00:47:09.216 --> 00:47:13.120
  • GOD, WHAT ARE YOUSAYING INITIALLY.
  • 00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:15.789
  • I JUST DON'T THINKI WAS DOING THAT.
  • 00:47:15.889 --> 00:47:18.458
  • AND YOU DIDTHAT NATURALLY.
  • 00:47:18.558 --> 00:47:19.693
  • - YOU WEREN'T?- I DON'T THINK SO.
  • 00:47:19.793 --> 00:47:21.828
  • - WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
  • 00:47:21.929 --> 00:47:23.230
  • - I DON'T THINKYOU WERE EITHER.
  • 00:47:23.330 --> 00:47:25.599
  • SHE PROBABLY GOTMAD FIRST THEN.
  • 00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:28.568
  • - THAT'S NOT TRUE.
  • 00:47:28.669 --> 00:47:30.470
  • - HOW DO YOU GET SOMEONETO START THINKING ABOUT A
  • 00:47:30.570 --> 00:47:36.176
  • SEASON WHEN THEYLOST THEIR JOB,
  • 00:47:36.276 --> 00:47:38.211
  • THEY'RE PUTTING OUT AHUNDRED RESUMES A DAY,
  • 00:47:38.312 --> 00:47:40.280
  • THAT'S A BIG JUMP IN SOMEPEOPLE'S MINDS, MAX.
  • 00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:45.319
  • - I GOT YOU. I GOT YOU.
  • 00:47:45.419 --> 00:47:48.722
  • WELL, THE BIG WORDHERE IS SOVEREIGNTY.
  • 00:47:48.822 --> 00:47:53.327
  • THAT'S THE TWO DOLLARTERM THE BIBLE USES TO
  • 00:47:53.427 --> 00:47:55.996
  • DESCRIBE THE GOD WHO NOTONLY CREATED THE UNIVERSE
  • 00:47:56.096 --> 00:47:58.332
  • BUT SUSTAINS THEUNIVERSE, RIGHT?
  • 00:47:58.432 --> 00:48:01.535
  • IF THERE IS NOSOVEREIGN GOD,
  • 00:48:01.635 --> 00:48:03.270
  • WE'RE ALL IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:48:03.370 --> 00:48:04.838
  • IF THERE IS NOSOVEREIGN GOD,
  • 00:48:04.938 --> 00:48:06.606
  • WE'RE ALL WEATHER VANESWHIPPED ABOUT BY WINDS OF
  • 00:48:06.707 --> 00:48:09.176
  • FATE AND WHO KNOWSWHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
  • 00:48:09.276 --> 00:48:11.812
  • BUT IF THERE ISA SOVEREIGN GOD,
  • 00:48:11.912 --> 00:48:13.981
  • AS THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES,THE BIBLE CALLS HIM THE
  • 00:48:14.081 --> 00:48:17.551
  • BLESSED CONTROLLEROF ALL THINGS.
  • 00:48:17.651 --> 00:48:19.820
  • I LOVE THAT PHRASE.
  • 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.088
  • THE BLESSED CONTROLLEROF ALL THINGS.
  • 00:48:21.188 --> 00:48:22.689
  • - ALL THINGS.
  • 00:48:22.789 --> 00:48:23.824
  • - ALL THINGS. EVEN THISCONVERSATION TODAY THAT
  • 00:48:23.924 --> 00:48:26.927
  • WE MIGHT HAVE THOUGHTWAS GONNA GO ONE WAY,
  • 00:48:27.027 --> 00:48:28.862
  • HE PROMPTED TO GOA DIFFERENT WAY.
  • 00:48:28.962 --> 00:48:30.664
  • THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY.
  • 00:48:30.764 --> 00:48:32.766
  • NOW, IT DOESN'T MEANEVERYTHING THAT'S GONNA
  • 00:48:32.866 --> 00:48:34.501
  • COME OUR WAY ISGONNA BE EASY,
  • 00:48:34.601 --> 00:48:36.570
  • BUT IT DOES MEANEVERYTHING THAT COMES OUR
  • 00:48:36.670 --> 00:48:38.939
  • WAY IS WITHIN THE PURVIEWOF A GOOD AND LOVING GOD
  • 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.475
  • WHO WILL TAKE THATAND USE IT FOR GOOD.
  • 00:48:41.575 --> 00:48:43.543
  • REMEMBER IT'S NOT ABOUTNOW AND IT'S NOT ABOUT US.
  • 00:48:43.643 --> 00:48:47.180
  • IT'S ALL ABOUT HEAVENAND IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD.
  • 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.349
  • SO THERE WILL BETIMES OF TESTING.
  • 00:48:49.449 --> 00:48:51.151
  • HE PROMISED THAT.
  • 00:48:51.251 --> 00:48:52.652
  • BUT HE HASOVERCOME THE WORLD.
  • 00:48:52.753 --> 00:48:54.388
  • SO WE'RE GONNA TRUST HIMAND LEAN INTO HIM AND SAY
  • 00:48:54.488 --> 00:48:56.823
  • GOD, HOW CAN I BESTRESPOND DURING THIS SEASON?
  • 00:48:56.923 --> 00:48:59.493
  • - [LAURIE] BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:48:59.593 --> 00:49:01.294
  • - AND MAY I?
  • 00:49:01.395 --> 00:49:04.965
  • AND, UM, MAYBE I'VESOUNDED BOLD TODAY BUT,
  • 00:49:05.065 --> 00:49:11.271
  • ONE OF THE THINGS IDEAL WITH IS FEAR,
  • 00:49:11.371 --> 00:49:15.842
  • SO I HAVE TO GO TO GOD'SWORD TO HELP ME WITH THAT
  • 00:49:15.942 --> 00:49:21.214
  • AND LEAD ME WITH THAT.
  • 00:49:21.314 --> 00:49:22.682
  • SO EARLY ON IN THIS,I WENT TO PSALM 91.
  • 00:49:22.783 --> 00:49:26.153
  • HE WHO DWELLS IN THESHELTER OF THE MOST HIGH
  • 00:49:26.253 --> 00:49:28.755
  • WILL REST IN THE SHADOWOF THE LORD ALMIGHTY.
  • 00:49:28.855 --> 00:49:32.225
  • HE WILL SAY OF THE LORDHE IS MY REFUGE AND MY
  • 00:49:32.325 --> 00:49:36.029
  • FORTRESS, MY GODIN WHOM I TRUST.
  • 00:49:36.129 --> 00:49:39.132
  • SURELY HE WILL SAVE MEFROM THE FOWLER'S SNARE
  • 00:49:39.232 --> 00:49:42.569
  • AND FROM THEDEADLY PESTILENCE.
  • 00:49:42.669 --> 00:49:45.972
  • SO I EARLY ON JUST HAD TOGO THERE, LIKE, I HAD TO,
  • 00:49:46.073 --> 00:49:52.479
  • HE'S OUR HIDING PLACE.
  • 00:49:52.579 --> 00:49:54.614
  • LIKE I HAD TO GOTO MY HIDING PLACE,
  • 00:49:54.714 --> 00:49:57.017
  • AND I HAD TODECLARE WHO HE IS.
  • 00:49:57.117 --> 00:49:59.453
  • AND THE PROMISES HEMAKES IN PSALM 91,
  • 00:49:59.553 --> 00:50:03.023
  • EVEN THE ONE WHERE HESAYS HE'LL COMMAND ANGELS
  • 00:50:03.123 --> 00:50:05.425
  • CONCERNING US TO GUARD USIN ALL OUR WAYS AND HOLD
  • 00:50:05.525 --> 00:50:08.662
  • US UP IN THEIR HANDS,THAT WE NOT STRIKE OUR
  • 00:50:08.762 --> 00:50:11.998
  • FOOT AGAINST A STONE, THECOVID VIRUS OR FEAR OR
  • 00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:16.570
  • DESPAIR ORSUICIDAL THOUGHTS.
  • 00:50:16.670 --> 00:50:19.573
  • IT HAS TO BE SO IHAD TO RUN TO HIM,
  • 00:50:19.673 --> 00:50:24.177
  • MY STRONG TOWER. HEWILL SHELTER US.
  • 00:50:24.277 --> 00:50:26.680
  • HE WILL HIDE US.
  • 00:50:26.780 --> 00:50:28.215
  • HE'LL SPEAK TO OUR HEARTSAND OUR SPIRITS THAT NEED
  • 00:50:28.315 --> 00:50:32.219
  • DEEP THINGS INA HARD TIME.
  • 00:50:32.319 --> 00:50:35.088
  • SO WE HAVE TO GO TO HIM.
  • 00:50:35.188 --> 00:50:37.390
  • - GOOD WORD. WE NEED DEEPTHINGS IN A HARD TIME. YEAH.
  • 00:50:37.491 --> 00:50:40.827
  • - WOULD YOU PRAY?
  • 00:50:40.927 --> 00:50:43.730
  • - I WILL. I WILL.
  • 00:50:43.830 --> 00:50:45.832
  • LORD, I BLESS YOU IN THENAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:50:45.932 --> 00:50:48.268
  • I BLESS YOU FOR THEWONDERFUL TBN FAMILY,
  • 00:50:48.368 --> 00:50:51.238
  • TO WHOM WE TURN SO OFTENFOR STRENGTH AND BLESSING.
  • 00:50:51.338 --> 00:50:55.475
  • WE THANK YOU FOR THEWORK THAT TBN DOES IN
  • 00:50:55.575 --> 00:50:59.546
  • TOUCHING HEARTS ALL OVERTHE WORLD, NO EXCEPTION,
  • 00:50:59.646 --> 00:51:04.117
  • ALL OVER THE WORLD.WE THANK YOU.
  • 00:51:04.217 --> 00:51:06.753
  • I THANK YOU FOR MATT ANDI THANK YOU FOR LAURIE,
  • 00:51:06.853 --> 00:51:09.789
  • I THANK YOU FOR THE WAYTHEY PUT THEMSELVES IN
  • 00:51:09.890 --> 00:51:12.559
  • POSITION POSTURE EVERYSINGLE DAY OF THEIR LIVES.
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  • WHAT WORK THEY DO.
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  • WHAT WORK THEY DO LORDTHAT 99 PERCENT OF US
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  • KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
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  • STRENGTHEN AND BLESSTHEM PLEASE OH, LORD.
  • 00:51:23.570 --> 00:51:26.640
  • AND WE PRAY FORYOUR CHURCH TODAY.
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  • I PRAY HEAVENLY FATHERTHAT THOSE WHO HEARD THIS
  • 00:51:29.676 --> 00:51:32.679
  • CONVERSATION BUTDISAGREED WOULD NOT TAKE
  • 00:51:32.779 --> 00:51:34.648
  • OFFENSE BUT WE COULDCONTINUE TO WORK
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  • TOGETHER, THAT YOU WOULDHUMBLE YOUR CHURCH THAT
  • 00:51:37.384 --> 00:51:40.086
  • WE COULD BE IN A POSTUREOF JESUS IN OUR COUNTRY,
  • 00:51:40.187 --> 00:51:43.557
  • OR AROUND THE WORLDSERVING OTHERS.
  • 00:51:43.657 --> 00:51:47.794
  • WE DO PRAY FOR AVACCINE, FATHER.
  • 00:51:47.894 --> 00:51:50.030
  • WE PRAY FOR ABREAK THROUGH.
  • 00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:51.665
  • WE PRAY FOR HEALING FORTHOSE WHO RIGHT NOW ARE
  • 00:51:51.765 --> 00:51:53.800
  • NEARING DEATH.
  • 00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:55.569
  • WE PRAY FOR YOUR HEALINGTOUCH TO BE UPON THEM.
  • 00:51:55.669 --> 00:51:58.538
  • WE PRAY FOROUR PRESIDENT,
  • 00:51:58.638 --> 00:52:00.207
  • FOR OUR VICE PRESIDENT,FOR ALL THOSE IN
  • 00:52:00.307 --> 00:52:02.375
  • POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY.
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  • FOR EVERY MAYOR, EVERYGOVERNOR WHO HAS BEEN
  • 00:52:04.377 --> 00:52:06.780
  • PLACED IN A POSTURE OFMAKING DIFFICULT CHOICES.
  • 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.849
  • WE PRAY FOR PASTORS.
  • 00:52:09.950 --> 00:52:11.918
  • GIVE ALL OF THEMSTRENGTH AND WISDOM.
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  • WE BLESS YOU NOW LORD, INTHE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN.
  • 00:52:14.254 --> 00:52:17.891
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:52:17.991 --> 00:52:20.026
  • - I HAVE A FEELING THISSHOW IS GONNA BE ONE OF
  • 00:52:20.126 --> 00:52:21.795
  • THOSE SHOWS THAT GETWATCHED MORE THAN ONCE
  • 00:52:21.895 --> 00:52:24.698
  • BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUTA LOT OF STUFF IN THIS,
  • 00:52:24.798 --> 00:52:28.969
  • AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ITIN A PRETTY UNIQUE WAY.
  • 00:52:29.069 --> 00:52:33.540
  • I THINK IF I'M GONNAREMEMBER THIS BROADCAST,
  • 00:52:33.640 --> 00:52:38.511
  • I'M GONNA REMEMBERA COUPLE OF THINGS.
  • 00:52:38.612 --> 00:52:41.314
  • THE HUMILITY STATEMENTTHAT IS REALLY MORE POWER
  • 00:52:41.414 --> 00:52:45.285
  • AND THEN YOU JUST SAID ATSOME POINT YOU WENT LIKE
  • 00:52:45.385 --> 00:52:48.688
  • THIS, YOU SHIFTEDIN YOUR SEAT,
  • 00:52:48.788 --> 00:52:52.392
  • AND YOU KIND OFDID LIKE THIS,
  • 00:52:52.492 --> 00:52:53.960
  • AND YOU WENT THERE'S AWORD CALLED SOVEREIGNTY.
  • 00:52:54.060 --> 00:52:57.464
  • SO AT SOME POINT WHATYOU'RE REALLY PUTTING THE
  • 00:52:57.564 --> 00:53:00.567
  • EXCLAMATION ON THISSEASON OF COVID IS THERE
  • 00:53:00.667 --> 00:53:03.870
  • IS A GOD AND HE KNEW THISWAS COMING, AND YOU JUST,
  • 00:53:03.970 --> 00:53:11.211
  • WE CAN'T DO ANYTHINGABOUT THAT.
  • 00:53:11.311 --> 00:53:12.979
  • - THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.
  • 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.048
  • THERE IS ALORD IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:53:15.148 --> 00:53:16.650
  • THERE IS ALORD IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:53:16.750 --> 00:53:17.984
  • THAT WAS ISAIAH.
  • 00:53:18.084 --> 00:53:19.686
  • YOU KNOW, WHENKING UZZIAH DIED,
  • 00:53:19.786 --> 00:53:22.188
  • THAT WASDEVASTATION TO HIM.
  • 00:53:22.289 --> 00:53:24.090
  • KING UZZIAH HAD BEEN KINGFOR 40 YEARS AND WASN'T A
  • 00:53:24.190 --> 00:53:27.227
  • GODLY MAN, BUT HE KEPTTHE ENEMIES AT BAY.
  • 00:53:27.327 --> 00:53:29.796
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEWORLD WAS THROWN UP,
  • 00:53:29.896 --> 00:53:31.464
  • HIS WORLD AS HE KNEW IT,UZZIAH'S WORLD WAS THROWN
  • 00:53:31.564 --> 00:53:33.900
  • UPSIDE-DOWN, BUT HE SAIDI LOOKED INTO THE HEAVENS
  • 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.202
  • AND THERE WAS AGOD ON THE THRONE.
  • 00:53:36.303 --> 00:53:38.538
  • SO THE MESSAGE FROM GODWAS HE WAS STILL ON THE
  • 00:53:38.638 --> 00:53:40.807
  • THRONE. HE'S ON THETHRONE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:53:40.907 --> 00:53:43.176
  • HE'S ON THETHRONE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:53:43.276 --> 00:53:45.011
  • AND IT'S NOT GONNA BETHAT LONG BEFORE WE GET
  • 00:53:45.111 --> 00:53:46.446
  • TO SEE HIM IN PERSON.
  • 00:53:46.546 --> 00:53:48.581
  • - BUT HE'SWATCHING OVER US,
  • 00:53:48.682 --> 00:53:50.016
  • AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY ISTO DWELL ON HIS LOVE FOR US.
  • 00:53:50.116 --> 00:53:56.323
  • THAT CURES LONELINESS.
  • 00:53:56.423 --> 00:53:58.692
  • - [MAX] ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:53:58.792 --> 00:54:00.727
  • - SO WE CAN'T TRY TOCONJURE UP A LOVE FOR GOD.
  • 00:54:00.827 --> 00:54:03.863
  • JUST DWELL ONHIS LOVE FOR US.
  • 00:54:03.963 --> 00:54:05.665
  • - [MAX] LET HIM LOVE YOU.
  • 00:54:05.765 --> 00:54:06.866
  • - AND THAT'S WHENYOU'RE NEVER ALONE.
  • 00:54:06.966 --> 00:54:09.502
  • - YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:54:09.602 --> 00:54:11.304
  • WE SAY LET GOD LOVEYOU, LET GOD SAVE YOU,
  • 00:54:11.404 --> 00:54:15.375
  • LET GOD HEAL YOU,LET GOD HELP YOU,
  • 00:54:15.475 --> 00:54:18.578
  • AND THEN LETGOD HOLD YOU.
  • 00:54:18.678 --> 00:54:20.280
  • IT'S JUST, WE JUSTLET GOD DO HIS WORK.
  • 00:54:20.380 --> 00:54:22.949
  • - AND WE HAVE MORETIME TO DO THAT NOW.
  • 00:54:23.049 --> 00:54:25.452
  • - WE DO.
  • 00:54:25.552 --> 00:54:26.786
  • - YES, WE DO.
  • 00:54:26.886 --> 00:54:28.888
  • - SOME OF US AREN'TDRIVING INTO THE OFFICE.
  • 00:54:28.988 --> 00:54:31.825
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:54:31.925 --> 00:54:32.926
  • - LET GOD LOVE YOU.
  • 00:54:33.026 --> 00:54:34.127
  • OKAY, YOU'RE NEVER ALONE.GET THE BOOK.
  • 00:54:34.227 --> 00:54:35.962
  • IT'S AVAILABLERIGHT NOW WHEREVER,
  • 00:54:36.062 --> 00:54:38.064
  • HIS WEBSITE ORAMAZON OR WHEREVER.
  • 00:54:38.164 --> 00:54:41.468
  • AND JOIN THE 140 MILLIONCLUB OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
  • 00:54:41.568 --> 00:54:47.073
  • BOUGHT HIS BOOKS.
  • 00:54:47.173 --> 00:54:49.109
  • 140 MILLION.
  • 00:54:49.209 --> 00:54:50.944
  • - [MAX] YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.
  • 00:54:51.044 --> 00:54:52.445
  • - YOU'RE NEVER ALONE.
  • 00:54:52.545 --> 00:54:53.546
  • THANK YOU MAX.THANK YOU DENALYN.
  • 00:54:53.646 --> 00:54:55.081
  • AMAZING DISCUSSION.WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
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