Praise | Mike Rowe | January 16, 2020
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Praise | Mike Rowe | January 16, 2020
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- EVERYBODY ROLLING?
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- [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
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- [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
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- - MIKE ROWE: ONCE UPON A TIME, A G RATED FELLA
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- NAMED MATT PICKED UP THE REMOTE CONTROL AND
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- STARTED TO CRUISE AROUND THE DIAL TO SEE WHAT HE
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- MIGHT STUMBLE ACROSS.
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- LO AND BEHOLD, HE FOUND A MAN ABOUT THE SAME AGE AS
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- HE SQUATTING IN A SEWER COVERED WITH FILTH AND
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- UNSPEAKABLE CREATURES.
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- MATT WAS APPALLED.
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- WHAT KIND OF TELEVISION ARE THEY MAKING THESE
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- DAYS, HE SAID TO HIMSELF AS HE REACHED AGAIN FOR
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- THE REMOTE TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL BUT SUDDENLY
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- FOUND HIMSELF UNABLE TO DO THAT VERY THING.
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- WHY?
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- BECAUSE AS HE LOOKED AT THE MAN AND AS HE
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- LISTENED TO THE MAN, HE ASKED HIMSELF IN A MOMENT
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- OF BLINDING HUMILITY, IS THERE NOT SOMETHING
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- FAMILIAR ABOUT THE COUNTENANCE OF THIS MAN
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- IN THE SEWER?
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- AND IN THAT MOMENT MATT SAW SOMETHING OF HIMSELF
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- IN A FELLOW TRAVELER AND REACHED OUT.
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- AND THROUGH AN UNLIKELY SERIES OF CONNECTIONS,
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- MATT AND THAT FELLOW TRAVELER FOUND THEMSELVES
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- DISCUSSING TOPICS THAT RANGED SO INSANELY FROM
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- RIGHT TO LEFT, UP TO DOWN.
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- NO HUMAN MIND COULD SCARCE CONTEMPLATE THE
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- COMPLEXITY WHICH IS JUST A LONG WAY OF SAYING,
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- WHEN YOU SEE A GUY IN POOP, DON'T RUSH
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- TO JUDGMENT.
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- - AND THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD IT.
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- - THAT'S THE WAY MATT HEARD IT.
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- - IT'S MIKE ROWE.
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- IT'S PRAISE RIGHT NOW.
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- [MUSIC]
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- - TONIGHT ON PRAISE FROM SANTA MONICA, YOU'VE
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- SEEN HIM ON SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT RIGHT HERE ON
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- TBN, AUTHOR OF THE WAY I HEARD IT, MIKE ROWE!
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- [MUSIC]
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- AND NOW, MATT CROUCH!
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- [MUSIC]
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- - MAKE UP.
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- WE'RE STILL DOING MAKE UP?
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- - YEAH.
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- WE'RE STILL DOING IT.
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- SO WHEN SOMEBODY WRITES A BOOK AND IT GOES TO
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- NUMBER 4 ON THE NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER LIST
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- LIKE, ABOUT LIKE THAT [SNAPPING] YOU SCRAMBLE
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- TO GET THEM ON CAMERA.
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- THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
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- WE HAVE SCRAMBLED TO MAKE THIS INTERVIEW HAPPEN.
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- - YOU HAVE MOVED WITH ALACRITY, WITH PURPOSE,
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- EXTREME PURPOSE I MIGHT SAY.
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- YOU NEVER FAIL TO AMAZE ME THE SPEED WITH WHICH
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- THIS HUMBLE OPERATION CAN TURN, PIVOT AND OTHERWISE
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- POSTURE THEREBY ATTRACTING B LIST
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- CELEBRITIES, THE LIKES OF ME.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- - WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU COULD WRITE IN THIS
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- UNIQUE STYLE THAT YOU -- FIRST OF ALL, HAVE YOU
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- COINED A PHRASE FOR YOUR STYLE OF WRITING?
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- - YES.
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- SERENDIPITOUS HAPPENSTANCE SHOT THROUGH
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- WITH ACCIDENTAL GOOD FORTUNE.
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- - OKAY.
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- AND WHEN YOU STARTED COMPILING THIS BOOK, YOU
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- PROBABLY DIDN'T EXPECT FOR IT TO [SNAPPING]
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- JUST SNAP TO THE TOP OF THE NEW YORK TIME
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- BEST-SELLING LIST.
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- - HONESTLY I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN
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- UNTIL THIS EPISODE OF PRAISE HIT THE AIR, AND
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- THEN I COMPLETELY EXPECTED A BOLD
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- NEW CHAPTER.
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- - ARE YOU READY TO GO TO NUMBER 1?
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- - I DON'T -- I'M NOT REALLY A NUMBER ONE GUY.
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- IF YOU SAW DIRTY JOBS, I BASICALLY HAD MY WHOLE
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- CAREER BASED ON NUMBER 2.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- SO I'D BE VERY HAPPY WITH A LITTLE NUMBER 2.
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- SO THERE I WAS HOSTING EVENING MAGAZINE LIKE A
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- GOOD SCOUT DOING THE BEST I COULD WHEN MY MOTHER
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- CALLED ME, AND I ANSWERED THE PHONE IN THE CUBICLE
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- THERE IN MY LITTLE HOLE AT CBS, AND SHE SAID
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- MICHAEL, YOU KNOW YOUR GRANDFATHER IS 90 YEARS OLD.
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- HE'S NOT GOING TO LIVE FOREVER.
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- WOULDN'T IT BE TERRIFIC IF HE TURNED ON THE TV
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- JUST ONCE BEFORE HE DIED AND SAW YOU DOING
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- SOMETHING THAT LOOKED LIKE WORK.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- CAN YOU IMAGINE?
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- A MOTHER TALKING THAT WAY TO A SON?
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- BUT OF COURSE SHE WAS RIGHT.
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- MY GRANDFATHER AS YOU KNOW COULD BUILD A HOUSE
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- WITHOUT A BLUEPRINT, ONLY WENT TO THE 7TH GRADE BUT
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- WAS JUST A BRILLIANT TRADESMAN.
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- AND I DECIDED I COULD HOST MY LITTLE SHOW
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- REALLY FROM ANYWHERE I WANTED.
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- IT DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE RESTAURANTS OR
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- ART GALLERIES.
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- IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTION SITES OR FACTORY FLOORS
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- OR IT COULD BE A SEWER.
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- SO DIRTY JOBS HAPPENED BECAUSE MY MOTHER TOLD ME
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- TO DO SOMETHING ON TV THAT LOOKED LIKE WORK TO
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- PLEASE MY GRANDFATHER WHICH I DID BY HOSTING A
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- SHOW IN THE SEWERS OF SAN FRANCISCO WHICH
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- SUBSEQUENTLY BOTH GOT ME FIRED AND INSPIRED THE
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- PROGRAM THE AFOREMENTIONED DIRTY JOBS.
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- - SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
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- - UH-HUH.
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- - YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING STYLES
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- OF WRITING I HAVE EVER READ, AND YOU KNOW YOU
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- KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
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- - THANK YOU.
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- I'M NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT
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- I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE EITHER.
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- - OKAY. SO --
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- - YES, I AM SUPER INTERESTING.
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- [LAUGHTER]
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- - SO I WANT TO SET THE STAGE.
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- IN CASE SOMEBODY HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE
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- EVERYTHING THAT MIKE ROWE IS, IF SOMEBODY GOT PAST
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- THE DIRT AND INTO YOUR WRITING STYLE, THE WAY I
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- HEARD IT, WE'VE PREPARED ABOUT A MINUTE PIECE THAT
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- I THINK IS INTERESTING.
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- IT WILL PARTLY KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE BOTH
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- SITTING AT A SCHOOL DESK IN A
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- HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM.
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- WATCH THIS.
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- - READY?
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- AND ACTION.
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- [UPBEAT MUSIC]
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- SHE DELIVERED A PERFORMANCE WORTHY OF
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- AN OSCAR.
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- THE LIGHTS OF TINSEL TOWN WOULD BE TWINKLING BUT
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- SHE WOULD NOT BE DISTRACTED.
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- AL DIDN'T CARE ABOUT BEING RECOGNIZED.
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- HE JUST WANTED TO WORK.
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- AL ARRIVED AT THE AUDITION.
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- THEN SOMEBODY SAID, ACTION!
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- AND THAT WAS THAT.
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- HE WAS AN ENGINEER WHO POSSESSED AN ABILITY TO
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- REPAIR PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING.
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- WELL, THAT MECHANICAL HANDSHAKE CHANGED THE WAY
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- NASA APPROACHED SPACE MISSIONS.
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- IT WAS ANOTHER HANDSHAKE THAT SAVED THE HUBBLE.
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- ANYWAY, THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD IT.
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- [MUSIC]
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- - WE'RE AT SANTA MONICA HIGH SCHOOL.
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- MY GUEST, MIKE ROWE.
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- I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS BECAUSE LET ME
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- TELL YOU SOMETHING, I'VE KNOWN ABOUT THE FORMATION
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- OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS BOOK FOR A WHILE.
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- - UH-HUH.
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- - I AM A BIG FAN OF YOURS, AND YOU KNOW THAT.
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- I AM TOTALLY INTERESTED IN THE WAY THAT YOU
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- TELL STORIES.
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- THIS BOOK CAME OUT OF A SERIES OF BASICALLY
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- POD CASTS I SUPPOSE IS REALLY KIND OF WHERE IT STARTED,
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- AND MIKE, WE KNOW YOU FROM DIRTY JOBS.
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- WE RECOGNIZE YOUR VOICE FOR THE -- WHAT'S THE
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- CRAB SHOW?
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- - THAT WOULD BE THE DEADLIEST CATCH.
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- - THE DEADLIEST CATCH.
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- - SEASON 16 RIGHT NOW.
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- KIND OF A BIG DEAL.
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- - SO GIVE ME A LITTLE PIECE OF THAT SO THAT
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- EVERYONE RECOGNIZES IT.
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- - JANUARY.
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- THE BERING SEA.
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- THE FOG ROLLS IN.
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- THE MEN GO OUT.
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- THE ICE GETS THICK.
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- THE CRAB RUNS FOR THEIR LIVES.
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- THE CAGES DROP UPON THEM.
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- UP COME THE CRAB.
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- IN GO THE MEN.
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- MONEY CHANGES HANDS, AND THEY ALL LIVE HAPPILY
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- EVER AFTER.
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- - HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ON ONE OF THE BOATS?
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- - I HAVE.
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- I WORKED ON A BOAT CALLED THE BOUNTIFUL.
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- - OKAY.
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- SO YOU WERE ON IT DOING AN EPISODE OF DIRTY JOBS?
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- - NO.
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- BACK IN THE DAY I WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE
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- DISCOVERY CHANNEL THAT DIRTY JOBS IS SOMETHING
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- THEY SHOULD PURCHASE.
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- I FAILED.
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- I FAILED INITIALLY, BUT IN THE COURSE OF THAT
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- CONVERSATION, THEY SUGGESTED THAT I MIGHT
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- ENJOY MYSELF WORKING UP ON THE BERING SEA AS A
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- GREEN HORN ON A CRAB BOAT.
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- - UH-HUH.
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- - BEING AN IDIOT, I SAID, WHY NOT?
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- LET'S TRY THAT.
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- AND YEAH, I SAW SOME THINGS UP THERE THAT
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- WELL, IT'S IN THE BOOK.
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- IT STUCK WITH ME.
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- - YEAH.
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- SO WHEN WERE YOU AWARE THAT YOU COULD REVERSE
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- ENGINEER A STORY?
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- - SO I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU BEFORE AND I REALLY
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- BELIEVE IT, THERE ARE NO NEW IDEAS.
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- A GENTLEMAN KNOWS HOW TO STEAL THEM PROPERLY AND
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- ACKNOWLEDGE FAIRLY, AND THEN HOPEFULLY PUT HIS
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- SPIN ON THEM.
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- THE IDEA THAT MOTIVATED THIS BOOK AND MY PODCAST
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- CAME FROM THE LATE GREAT PAUL HARVEY.
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- AND I KNOW SOME OF YOUR VIEWERS MUST KNOW
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- PAUL HARVEY.
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- HE WAS TERRIFIC.
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- THAT GUY, I MEAN NOT ONLY COULD HE TELL A STORY IN
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- A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE YOU LEAN IN, HE TURNED THE
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- STORIES THEMSELVES INSIDE OUT.
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- SO BIOGRAPHIES BECAME MYSTERIES AND HISTORICAL
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- TALES BECAME WHO-DONE-ITS, AND YOU HAD TO LISTEN
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- TO THE END, AND I WRITE ABOUT THIS IN THE INTRO,
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- BUT I THINK IT WAS 1988, 87 OR 88, I WAS SITTING
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- IN MY CAR IN THE LONG TERM PARKING LOT AT BWI,
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- BALTIMORE WASHINGTON AIRPORT LATE FOR
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- A FLIGHT.
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- PRE 911, SO I GOT MAYBE 30 MINUTES BEFORE THIS
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- THING TAKES OFF, BUT I KNOW I CAN MAKE IT IF I
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- RUN, BUT I CAN'T GET OUT OF THE CAR.
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- I'M LITERALLY STUCK TO THE SEAT BECAUSE I GOTTA
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- WAIT FOR PAUL HARVEY TO GET TO THE END.
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- - OH, MY GOODNESS.
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- - I GOTTA WAIT.
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- I CAN'T GET OUT OF THE CAR UNTIL I HEAR THE
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- MAGIC WORDS WHICH WERE, AND NOW YOU KNOW THE REST
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- OF THE STORY.
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- SO EVER SINCE THEN, I'VE WANTED TO WRITE STORIES
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- THAT MAKE PEOPLE LATE.
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- I MISSED MY FLIGHT THAT DAY, YOU KNOW.
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- AND ONE THING LEADS TO THE NEXT AND YEARS GO BY,
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- AND NOW I SPEND A LOT OF TIMES ON PLANES AND I
- 00:10:32.060 --> 00:10:34.130
- FIND THAT WRITING COMPRESSES TIME.
- 00:10:34.150 --> 00:10:37.270
- I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I STARTED WRITING A
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- STORY ON THE TARMAC OF SFO AND LOOKED UP ONLY TO
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- SEE WE WERE ON THE TARMAC OF JFK, RIGHT.
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- SO I WROTE AND WRITE PRIMARILY TO
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- AMUSE MYSELF.
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- THE PODCAST TOOK OFF.
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- MY PRODUCER, CHUCK, SUDDENLY WAS LIKE HEY
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- MAN, YOU GOT 120 MILLION DOWNLOADS.
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- WE SHOULD KEEP DOING THIS.
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- SO I KEEP WRITING, AND THEN A PUBLISHER IS LIKE
- 00:11:03.160 --> 00:11:06.000
- WE SHOULD PUT SOME OF THESE IN A BOOK, SO WE
- 00:11:06.020 --> 00:11:08.060
- PUT THEM IN A BOOK, BUT THEN MY MOTHER MAKES
- 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.070
- ANOTHER ONE OF HER CLASSIC PHONE CALLS AND
- 00:11:11.090 --> 00:11:13.150
- SAYS, SO YOU'VE ASSEMBLED STORIES YOU'VE ALREADY
- 00:11:13.170 --> 00:11:15.170
- WRITTEN FOR YOUR PODCAST AND PUT THEM IN A BOOK?
- 00:11:15.190 --> 00:11:18.020
- AND I SAID YEAH.
- 00:11:18.040 --> 00:11:19.090
- AND SHE SAID, OH MICHAEL, WHAT A TERRIFICALLY LAZY
- 00:11:19.110 --> 00:11:21.110
- WAY TO WRITE A BOOK.
- 00:11:21.130 --> 00:11:23.080
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:11:23.100 --> 00:11:24.200
- I'M LIKE MOM, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?
- 00:11:24.220 --> 00:11:26.190
- SHE SAID, WHY DON'T YOU INTERRUPT YOUR STORIES,
- 00:11:26.210 --> 00:11:29.290
- YOUR BIOGRAPHIES OF FAMOUS PEOPLE YOU'VE NEVER MET
- 00:11:30.010 --> 00:11:32.090
- WITH A REASON THAT EXPLAINS WHY YOU THINK
- 00:11:32.110 --> 00:11:36.260
- YOU WROTE ABOUT THEM.
- 00:11:36.280 --> 00:11:38.100
- TALK ABOUT YOURSELF.
- 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:39.240
- TALK ABOUT YOUR OWN PAST.
- 00:11:39.260 --> 00:11:41.050
- SO THE BOOK AND THE FORMAT THAT YOU'VE
- 00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:44.170
- ALLUDED TO VERY KINDLY AS UNIQUE AND INTERESTING IS
- 00:11:44.190 --> 00:11:48.170
- CERTAINLY UNIQUE BECAUSE IT GOES BIOGRAPHY, AUTO
- 00:11:48.190 --> 00:11:50.240
- BIOGRAPHY, BIOGRAPHY, AUTO BIOGRAPHY.
- 00:11:50.260 --> 00:11:53.140
- FOR EVERY FAMOUS PERSON THAT I'VE NEVER MET THAT
- 00:11:53.160 --> 00:11:56.130
- I WRITE A MYSTERY ABOUT, I TRIED TO EXPLAIN WHY I
- 00:11:56.150 --> 00:11:59.180
- THINK I MIGHT HAVE CHOSEN THAT PERSON, AND I
- 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.130
- ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT RHYME WITH SOMETHING THAT
- 00:12:02.150 --> 00:12:04.220
- HAPPENED IN MY PAST, MAYBE UP IN THE BERING
- 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:08.120
- SEA, MAYBE IN A SEWER ON DIRTY JOBS, MAYBE JUST
- 00:12:08.140 --> 00:12:11.050
- GROWING UP WITH 2 OF THE MOST TERRIFIC PARENTS
- 00:12:11.070 --> 00:12:13.080
- ANYBODY COULD EVER HOPE TO HAVE.
- 00:12:13.100 --> 00:12:14.200
- - YOU'RE AMAZING.
- 00:12:14.220 --> 00:12:16.000
- WE HAVE WATCHED HIM TAKE ON THE TOUGH SHIFTS HOSTING
- 00:12:16.020 --> 00:12:18.140
- THE SHOW DIRTY JOBS.
- 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:20.060
- NOW HE'S SHARING WHAT HE HAS LEARNED FROM HIS
- 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:21.280
- VERSATILE CAREER IN A PODCAST AND A NEW BOOK.
- 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.240
- IT'S CALLED THE WAY I HEARD IT.
- 00:12:24.260 --> 00:12:26.230
- [MUSIC]
- 00:12:26.250 --> 00:12:31.070
- - EACH MYSTERY IN THE BOOK IS FOLLOWED BY A
- 00:12:31.090 --> 00:12:34.140
- TRUE STORY FROM MY OWN MISSPENT YOUTH
- 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:36.150
- AND CAREER.
- 00:12:36.170 --> 00:12:38.060
- IT'S BASICALLY A MEMOIR THAT GOT INTERRUPTED WITH
- 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.270
- TRUISH STORIES OF FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT I'VE
- 00:12:40.290 --> 00:12:42.280
- NEVER REALLY MET BUT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INTRIGUED BY.
- 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.140
- - IT HIT THE NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER'S LIST.
- 00:12:45.160 --> 00:12:47.200
- - IT WAS A BIG DEAL.
- 00:12:47.220 --> 00:12:48.290
- [MUSIC]
- 00:12:49.010 --> 00:12:57.070
- - THIS BOOK IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, MIKE AND I ARE
- 00:12:57.090 --> 00:13:01.020
- HERE IN A HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM RIGHT HERE IN
- 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:03.290
- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
- 00:13:04.010 --> 00:13:05.220
- YOU SAT DOWN ON YOUR OWN AND YOU KIND OF TOOK YOUR
- 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:10.260
- PODCAST TO A VIDEO FORMAT.
- 00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:14.010
- I SAW SOME OF THAT, AND TOGETHER WE KIND OF
- 00:13:14.030 --> 00:13:18.050
- WORKED SOME VISUALS INTO-- - CAN I TAKE IT FROM HERE
- 00:13:18.070 --> 00:13:21.260
- FOR A SECOND?
- 00:13:21.280 --> 00:13:22.270
- - YOU MAY.
- 00:13:22.290 --> 00:13:24.000
- - BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE
- 00:13:24.020 --> 00:13:24.180
- YOURSELF CREDIT.
- 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:25.250
- HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED.
- 00:13:25.270 --> 00:13:27.070
- I SAT RIGHT HERE.
- 00:13:27.090 --> 00:13:28.170
- - EASY.
- 00:13:28.190 --> 00:13:29.250
- - AND RATHER THAN JUST RECORD THEM IN PODCAST
- 00:13:29.270 --> 00:13:31.110
- FORMAT, I PUT THEM ON VIDEO.
- 00:13:31.130 --> 00:13:33.010
- I SENT SOME OF THOSE TO MATT BECAUSE I KNEW HE
- 00:13:33.030 --> 00:13:35.130
- WAS A FAN.
- 00:13:35.150 --> 00:13:36.290
- MATT SAYS, DO YOU MIND IF I TINKER WITH THIS?
- 00:13:37.010 --> 00:13:40.100
- WHEN MATT ASKS IF IT'S OKAY IF HE TINKERS WITH
- 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:43.110
- SOMETHING, BE VERY CAREFUL.
- 00:13:43.130 --> 00:13:45.270
- YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO COME BACK OVER
- 00:13:45.290 --> 00:13:48.010
- THE NET.
- 00:13:48.030 --> 00:13:49.110
- WHAT MATT DID WAS INVEST AND BRING THE STORIES TO
- 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:52.200
- LIFE WITH A LEVEL OF VISUAL ACUITY THAT I DARE
- 00:13:52.220 --> 00:13:57.090
- SAY WOULD BE VERY CONSISTENT WITH SOMETHING
- 00:13:57.110 --> 00:14:00.170
- ONE MIGHT FIND ON THE SILVER SCREEN.
- 00:14:00.190 --> 00:14:02.280
- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU SPENT, BUT IT WAS A
- 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.060
- BUNCH, AND WHAT YOU DID TRANSFORMED THOSE
- 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.280
- STORIES, AND THEN HE JUST SENDS THEM TO ME.
- 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.210
- HE JUST SENDS ME A LINK.
- 00:14:10.230 --> 00:14:12.050
- SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
- 00:14:12.070 --> 00:14:14.020
- I'M EXPECTING SOME ANIMATION, MAYBE A PUPPET
- 00:14:14.040 --> 00:14:16.090
- OR SOMETHING.
- 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:17.170
- I DON'T KNOW.
- 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:19.020
- [LAUGHTER] AND IT'S THIS.
- 00:14:19.040 --> 00:14:20.270
- I MEAN, IT IS LITERALLY IT'S LIKE THE
- 00:14:20.290 --> 00:14:23.070
- WINDS OF WAR.
- 00:14:23.090 --> 00:14:24.100
- THAT SCENE YOU PLAYED BEFORE.
- 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.190
- IT'S LIKE GONE THE WIND, MAN.
- 00:14:25.210 --> 00:14:27.130
- YOU REALLY BROUGHT THESE THINGS TO LIFE.
- 00:14:27.150 --> 00:14:29.230
- - MIKE, YOU ARE INSPIRATIONAL BEYOND, AND
- 00:14:29.250 --> 00:14:33.240
- THE WAY THAT YOU CONSTRUCT A STORY, I WANT
- 00:14:33.260 --> 00:14:37.100
- TO START WITH, CAN YOU BE THERE BY 9?
- 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.170
- AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A BIG SET UP FOR THIS
- 00:14:39.190 --> 00:14:43.060
- EXCEPT TO SAY MIKE ROWE IS A STORY TELLER.
- 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:47.040
- HE SENT ME SOME RAW FOOTAGE OF HIM WALKING
- 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:51.250
- OUT ON THIS EXACT STAGE SITTING
- 00:14:51.270 --> 00:14:54.210
- BEHIND A SIMILAR DESK, AND THE WAY THAT I GET
- 00:14:54.230 --> 00:14:59.200
- INSPIRED BY THE WAY YOU TELL YOUR STORY IS NOW
- 00:14:59.220 --> 00:15:04.050
- LOOKS LIKE THIS.
- 00:15:04.070 --> 00:15:06.090
- [MUSIC]
- 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:09.200
- - AL SAT ON THE BACK OF A HORSE THAT WASN'T HIS.
- 00:15:09.220 --> 00:15:12.080
- DREW A PISTOL THAT WASN'T LOADED, AND SHOT AN
- 00:15:12.100 --> 00:15:14.070
- APACHE THAT WASN'T AN INDIAN.
- 00:15:14.090 --> 00:15:16.130
- THIS STUNT MAN SCREAMED AND FELL UNCONVINCINGLY
- 00:15:16.150 --> 00:15:18.210
- TO THE GROUND, AND THE DIRECTOR YELLED, CUT!
- 00:15:18.230 --> 00:15:21.060
- AL GLANCED NERVOUSLY AT HIS WATCH.
- 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.010
- 6:30 P.M.
- 00:15:24.030 --> 00:15:25.230
- NOT GOOD.
- 00:15:25.250 --> 00:15:27.090
- HIS AUDITION WAS IN BURBANK AT 9 AM THE NEXT
- 00:15:27.110 --> 00:15:30.170
- MORNING, AND SAINT GEORGE, UTAH WAS 7 HOURS FROM
- 00:15:30.190 --> 00:15:33.170
- BURBANK BY CAR, AND AL DIDN'T HAVE A CAR.
- 00:15:33.190 --> 00:15:36.180
- HE TURNED HIS HORSE AWAY FROM THE SET, A BULLET
- 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:40.200
- FOR A BAD MAN, AND RODE HARD TOWARD THE NEAREST
- 00:15:40.220 --> 00:15:43.200
- HIGHWAY, AND TWO HOURS LATER AN 18-WHEELER
- 00:15:43.220 --> 00:15:45.280
- FINALLY PULLED OVER.
- 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:47.090
- WHERE YA HEADED, COWBOY?
- 00:15:47.110 --> 00:15:49.010
- LOS ANGELES.
- 00:15:49.030 --> 00:15:50.180
- THE DRIVER SAID HE LOOKED FAMILIAR.
- 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.260
- AL ASKED HIM IF HE LIKED THE MOVIES.
- 00:15:52.280 --> 00:15:55.100
- SURE, SAID THE TRUCK DRIVER.
- 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:56.230
- WHO DOESN'T LIKE THE MOVIES.
- 00:15:56.250 --> 00:15:58.100
- WELL, SAID AL, DID YOU SEE DIVE BOMBER WITH
- 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.010
- ERROL FLYNN?
- 00:16:01.030 --> 00:16:02.100
- I DON'T THINK SO.
- 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.000
- WELL, I WAS IN THAT ONE.
- 00:16:04.020 --> 00:16:05.150
- OH YEAH?
- 00:16:05.170 --> 00:16:06.100
- WHAT ELSE YOU BEEN IN?
- 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:07.100
- WELL, I WAS IN UP PERISCOPE WITH
- 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.120
- JAMES GARNER.
- 00:16:09.140 --> 00:16:10.200
- DIDN'T SEE IT.
- 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:12.030
- TIME OUT FOR -- WITH RUDY VALLE.
- 00:16:12.050 --> 00:16:14.050
- NOPE.
- 00:16:14.070 --> 00:16:15.190
- WHAT ABOUT ROGUE COP WITH ROD TAYLOR?
- 00:16:15.210 --> 00:16:17.280
- SORRY.
- 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.010
- AL DIDN'T CARE ABOUT BEING RECOGNIZED.
- 00:16:19.030 --> 00:16:21.080
- HE JUST WANTED TO WORK.
- 00:16:21.100 --> 00:16:22.280
- AL ARRIVED AT THE AUDITION WITH 2 MINUTES
- 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.200
- TO SPARE.
- 00:16:26.220 --> 00:16:32.000
- AL GLANCED AGAIN AT THE LINES HE'D ALREADY
- 00:16:32.020 --> 00:16:34.240
- MEMORIZED AND WALKED INTO A ROOM WHERE A SKINNY KID
- 00:16:34.260 --> 00:16:37.150
- WITH A FUNNY HAT WAS WAITING IN FRONT
- 00:16:37.170 --> 00:16:39.200
- OF A CAMERA.
- 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:41.090
- AL AND THE SKINNY KID SHOOK HANDS AND CHATTED
- 00:16:41.110 --> 00:16:43.160
- BRIEFLY ABOUT THE SCENE.
- 00:16:43.180 --> 00:16:45.110
- THEN SOMEBODY SAID, ACTION!
- 00:16:45.130 --> 00:16:48.260
- JONAS GRUMBY, THE CHARACTER WHOSE NAME WAS
- 00:16:48.280 --> 00:16:53.060
- CHANGED AFTER THE PILOT EPISODE TO THE ONE YOU
- 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:56.230
- KNOW TODAY.
- 00:16:56.250 --> 00:16:59.040
- SUCH WAS THE FAITHFUL TRIP OF ALAN HALE, A MAN
- 00:16:59.060 --> 00:17:03.030
- WHOSE 12 HOUR ODYSSEY FROM SAINT GEORGE, UTAH
- 00:17:03.050 --> 00:17:06.090
- TO LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA EARNED HIM A
- 00:17:06.110 --> 00:17:09.090
- 3 HOUR TOUR TO A DESERTED ISLAND THAT WASN'T
- 00:17:09.110 --> 00:17:12.010
- REALLY DESERTED.
- 00:17:12.030 --> 00:17:14.040
- AN ISLAND WHERE HE WAS KNOWN AS THE SKIPPER EVEN
- 00:17:14.060 --> 00:17:18.060
- THOUGH HIS REAL BOSS WAS A SKINNY KID WITH A FUNNY
- 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:21.090
- HAT CALLED GILLIGAN.
- 00:17:21.110 --> 00:17:24.060
- ANYWAY, THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD IT.
- 00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:27.140
- [MUSIC]
- 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:35.080
- - YOU ARE A UNIQUE GUY KNOWN TO US BECAUSE YOU
- 00:17:35.100 --> 00:17:39.160
- DARED TO BE A JOURNEYMAN PERSON ON TV AND NOT AN
- 00:17:39.180 --> 00:17:43.150
- EXPERT, SO THE IDEA -YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE SITTING
- 00:17:43.170 --> 00:17:51.050
- WITH A PREACHER, THEY WOULD SAY THINGS LIKE,
- 00:17:51.070 --> 00:17:58.110
- YOU KNOW, YOU HUMBLED YOURSELF SO THAT GOD
- 00:17:58.130 --> 00:18:01.040
- COULD EXALT YOU, THOSE TYPES OF PHRASES WOULD
- 00:18:01.060 --> 00:18:04.040
- COME OUT ABOUT WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE.
- 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:06.240
- AS WE SIT HERE, YOU HAVE A NEW YORK TIME BEST
- 00:18:06.260 --> 00:18:11.070
- SELLER, RUNAWAY BOOK HIT, AND IS THIS YOUR
- 00:18:11.090 --> 00:18:15.000
- FIRST BOOK?
- 00:18:15.020 --> 00:18:16.260
- - IT'S THE FIRST ONE I DID ON PURPOSE.
- 00:18:16.280 --> 00:18:19.070
- I WROTE SOMETHING KIND OF AS A PROMOTIONAL EXERCISE
- 00:18:19.090 --> 00:18:22.140
- A FEW YEARS AGO CALLED PROFOUNDLY DISCONNECTED
- 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.160
- WHICH IS REALLY A RUMINATION ON THE
- 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:27.230
- FOUNDATION THAT EVOLVED OUT OF DIRTY JOBS AND I
- 00:18:27.250 --> 00:18:30.220
- CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE SKILLS GAP AND THE COST
- 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.280
- OF COLLEGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT WAS A
- 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:36.200
- MORE SERIOUS BOOK.
- 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:38.260
- BUT NO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME -IT'S AN ACCIDENTAL
- 00:18:38.280 --> 00:18:43.150
- MEMBER TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
- 00:18:43.170 --> 00:18:46.060
- AND AGAIN, THANKS FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS, BUT I
- 00:18:46.080 --> 00:18:49.140
- WROTE A STORY ABOUT ALAN HALE BECAUSE HERE'S A GUY
- 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:55.020
- WHO HAD DONE HUNDREDS OF FILMS BUT WAS RECOGNIZED
- 00:18:55.040 --> 00:18:59.000
- BY NO ONE WHO LIVED IN HIS FATHER'S SHADOW WHO
- 00:18:59.020 --> 00:19:02.140
- WAS A JOURNEYMAN ACTOR, AND THEN ONE DAY HE MAKES
- 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:06.260
- THIS EXTRAORDINARY TRIP, AND HE WINDS UP WITH A
- 00:19:06.280 --> 00:19:09.270
- SHOW ON TV THAT HAS HIM MORE RECOGNIZED THAN ALL
- 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:14.120
- THE STARS HE'D EVER WORKED WITH, SO THAT
- 00:19:14.140 --> 00:19:17.120
- HAPPENS LATE IN LIFE AND IT HAPPENS BY ACCIDENT,
- 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:20.130
- AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT INTERESTING.
- 00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:22.020
- - OKAY.
- 00:19:22.040 --> 00:19:23.170
- BUT NOT EVERYONE CAN EXPERIENCE HEARING A
- 00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:29.120
- STORY ABOUT ALAN HAIL AND HIS JOURNEY AND
- 00:19:29.140 --> 00:19:31.250
- REALLY DECONSTRUCT IT IN A WAY THAT YOU HAVE
- 00:19:31.270 --> 00:19:39.010
- TO LISTEN TO THE END.
- 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:40.130
- THAT IS A VERY UNIQUE SKILL, AND WE'RE GOING TO
- 00:19:40.150 --> 00:19:43.040
- TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
- 00:19:43.060 --> 00:19:45.210
- YOU JUST MENTIONED YOUR SKILLS GAP.
- 00:19:45.230 --> 00:19:48.210
- MIKE, I DON'T EVER WANT TO NOT SIT WITH YOU AND
- 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:53.280
- LET YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WORK
- 00:19:54.000 --> 00:20:00.020
- HAS BEEN REDEFINED IN A GENERATION, LET'S SAY MY
- 00:20:00.040 --> 00:20:05.180
- KID'S GENERATION.
- 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.180
- WORK WAS REALLY REDEFINED IN A WAY THAT IF YOU
- 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.210
- DIDN'T HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE, YOU WEREN'T
- 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:13.240
- REALLY PREPARED FOR ANYTHING, AND I WANT YOU
- 00:20:13.260 --> 00:20:15.050
- TO ADDRESS THAT.
- 00:20:15.070 --> 00:20:16.230
- IT'S INTERESTING AS WE SIT HERE YOU CAN SEE
- 00:20:16.250 --> 00:20:21.190
- TRADE SCHOOLS AGAIN EMERGING.
- 00:20:21.210 --> 00:20:24.180
- YOU CAN SEE THEM ADVERTISING.
- 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.040
- YOU CAN SEE BILLBOARDS AND TELEVISION ADS FOR
- 00:20:26.060 --> 00:20:30.150
- IT, AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE SOMETHING CHANGING.
- 00:20:30.170 --> 00:20:35.110
- ARE YOU SEEING IT CHANGE?
- 00:20:35.130 --> 00:20:37.180
- WHERE'S YOUR HEAD IN REGARD TO-- I TOLD YOU
- 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.140
- ONE TIME IF I'M EVER ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE
- 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:45.190
- UNITED STATES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MY SECRETARY
- 00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:47.140
- OF EDUCATION.
- 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:48.270
- AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
- 00:20:48.290 --> 00:20:49.220
- - IS IT?
- 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.000
- BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A HECK OF A SHOW.
- 00:20:51.020 --> 00:20:52.030
- - WOULDN'T THAT BE FUN?
- 00:20:52.050 --> 00:20:53.050
- - THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING SHOW.
- 00:20:53.070 --> 00:20:54.000
- PRIME TIME.
- 00:20:54.020 --> 00:20:54.250
- SWEEPS.
- 00:20:54.270 --> 00:20:57.240
- SO THE QUESTION IS, AM I SEEING A CHANGE?
- 00:20:57.260 --> 00:21:00.250
- - YEAH.
- 00:21:00.270 --> 00:21:02.040
- - I'M THE FROG IN THE BOILING WATER.
- 00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:05.140
- I'M PROBABLY TOO CLOSE TO IT.
- 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:07.170
- - I WOULD CALL YOU THE NOSTRADAMUS OF WORK.
- 00:21:07.190 --> 00:21:10.010
- - WOW.
- 00:21:10.030 --> 00:21:11.250
- THAT'S SOME HIGH COTTON, MATT.
- 00:21:11.270 --> 00:21:13.020
- YES, I DO SEE CHANGES IN THE WAY WORK IS BEING
- 00:21:13.040 --> 00:21:17.180
- TALKED ABOUT AND PORTRAYED.
- 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:20.150
- YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THE DEFINITION OF A GOOD
- 00:21:20.170 --> 00:21:22.220
- JOB IS NOT AN INHERENT THING.
- 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.090
- WE GET TO DECIDE.
- 00:21:26.110 --> 00:21:27.210
- WE GET TO DECIDE THE NOBILITY AND DIGNITY IS,
- 00:21:27.230 --> 00:21:31.140
- ALL OF THAT STUFF.
- 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:32.180
- AND HUMILITY, RIGHT.
- 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:36.050
- LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, THINGS HAVE TO GO SPLAT
- 00:21:36.070 --> 00:21:39.130
- SOMETIMES, RIGHT.
- 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:41.230
- I MEAN, BIG SYSTEMIC SOCIETAL PROBLEMS AND
- 00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:44.280
- INDIVIDUALS, SOMETIMES THE THING THAT PRECEDES A
- 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.200
- REDEMPTION IS AN AWAKENING, AN EPIHPANY.
- 00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:53.020
- THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORDS FOR IT.
- 00:21:53.040 --> 00:21:56.110
- BUT IT'S ALL ROOTED IN HUMILITY.
- 00:21:56.130 --> 00:21:58.120
- AND IT'S ALL ROOTED IN THE MOMENT YOU REALIZE
- 00:21:58.140 --> 00:22:01.130
- THAT EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT A
- 00:22:01.150 --> 00:22:04.180
- THING WAS INCORRECT OR AT LEAST SOME OF IT WAS
- 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:08.090
- INCORRECT, YOU KNOW.
- 00:22:08.110 --> 00:22:09.210
- THAT'S WHY I'M SUCH A FAN OF CURIOSITY AND WHY I
- 00:22:09.230 --> 00:22:12.040
- ENJOYED MY TIME AT THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL SO MUCH
- 00:22:12.060 --> 00:22:14.230
- BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T BE CURIOUS WITHOUT BEING
- 00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:19.040
- HUMBLE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, IT'S BECAUSE YOU
- 00:22:19.060 --> 00:22:22.040
- DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, AND IF YOU ADMIT YOU DON'T
- 00:22:22.060 --> 00:22:24.200
- KNOW SOMETHING, THEN IT'S HARD TO BE HAUGHTY.
- 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:28.140
- SO WITH RESPECT TO THE BUSINESS OF WORK AND
- 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.190
- JOBS, FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS WE THOUGHT
- 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:34.070
- COLLECTIVELY, I'M GENERALIZING BUT
- 00:22:34.090 --> 00:22:36.250
- COLLECTIVELY WE BOUGHT INTO THE IDEA THAT THE
- 00:22:36.270 --> 00:22:40.100
- BEST PATH FOR THE MOST PEOPLE IS A 4 YEAR DEGREE
- 00:22:40.120 --> 00:22:42.010
- WHICH JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE
- 00:22:42.030 --> 00:22:44.160
- PATH AS WELL.
- 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:46.270
- SO A GIANT PARADE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
- 00:22:46.290 --> 00:22:52.090
- FORMED UP AFTER WE TOOK SHOP CLASS OUT OF HIGH
- 00:22:52.110 --> 00:22:55.210
- SCHOOL, AFTER WE TOOK AWAY ALL THE OPTICAL
- 00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:58.200
- VESTIGES OF PROOF THAT THESE JOBS WERE REAL.
- 00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:03.180
- WE JUST ELIMINATED THAT.
- 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:05.180
- AFTER THAT HAPPENED, THE SKILLS GAP GOT WIDE, THE
- 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:09.130
- COST OF COLLEGE WENT THROUGH THE ROOF, AND A
- 00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:11.190
- LOT OF WITH WELL-EDUCATED BUT UNTRAINED KIDS WOUND
- 00:23:11.210 --> 00:23:15.020
- UP MOVING BACK INTO THEIR PARENTS BASEMENTS, AND
- 00:23:15.040 --> 00:23:17.270
- YOU KNOW WHAT?
- 00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:19.020
- YOU MENTION THIS GENERATION, AND I'M
- 00:23:19.040 --> 00:23:21.040
- FASCINATED BY THEM, AND THEY'RE AN EASY
- 00:23:21.060 --> 00:23:24.100
- TARGET IN A LOT OF WAYS.
- 00:23:24.120 --> 00:23:26.090
- BUT LOOK, WE'RE THE CLOUDS FROM WHICH THE
- 00:23:26.110 --> 00:23:31.120
- SNOWFLAKES FELL.
- 00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:33.180
- WE DID THIS, YOU KNOW.
- 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.090
- WE TOLD THEM IF YOU DON'T BORROW THE MONEY AND SIGN
- 00:23:36.110 --> 00:23:38.030
- ON THE DOTTED LINE AND GET YOUR PAPER AND GET
- 00:23:38.050 --> 00:23:40.030
- YOUR CREDENTIAL YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP TURNING
- 00:23:40.050 --> 00:23:42.040
- A WRENCH OR CRAWLING THROUGH A SEWER OR FILL
- 00:23:42.060 --> 00:23:45.140
- IN THE BLANK.
- 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.110
- AND THAT'S HOW WE REDEFINED WHAT A GOOD JOB
- 00:23:47.130 --> 00:23:50.160
- IS, AND THAT'S WHY IN MY VIEW WE'RE SITTING ON
- 00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:54.020
- 1. 6 TRILLION DOLLARS IN STUDENT LOANS
- 00:23:54.040 --> 00:23:56.290
- 7. 3 MILLION TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITIES MOST OF
- 00:23:57.010 --> 00:23:59.260
- WHICH DON'T REQUIRE A 4 YEAR DEGREE, AND WE'RE
- 00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:02.180
- STRUGGLING TO FILL THEM.
- 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:03.260
- - WE ARE IN SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA.
- 00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:06.060
- MIKE ROWE IS GOING TO BE WITH US FOR THIS ENTIRE
- 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:10.090
- ONE HOUR.
- 00:24:10.110 --> 00:24:11.210
- - OH SHEESH, YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT.
- 00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:12.230
- AN HOUR?
- 00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:13.230
- - YOU'RE GOING TO SING, TOO.
- 00:24:13.250 --> 00:24:15.210
- [CLEARS THROAT] - YOU JUST GOTTA DO A LITTLE.
- 00:24:15.230 --> 00:24:17.130
- - I GOT PLENTY OF NOTHING ...
- 00:24:17.150 --> 00:24:19.150
- NOTHING IS PLENTY FOR ME ...
- 00:24:19.170 --> 00:24:21.160
- NAME THAT MUSICAL.
- 00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:23.000
- - I DON'T KNOW IT.
- 00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:24.090
- I'M SORRY.
- 00:24:24.110 --> 00:24:25.180
- I'M TOTALLY NOT INTO THE MUSIC THING.
- 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:26.260
- - PORGY AND BESS.
- 00:24:26.280 --> 00:24:27.260
- THAT WAS PORGY AND BESS.
- 00:24:27.280 --> 00:24:29.140
- GERSCHWIN.
- 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:30.210
- GIVE ME A MUSICAL AND I'LL GIVE
- 00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:31.150
- YOU A SONG.
- 00:24:31.170 --> 00:24:32.270
- - JESUS CHRIST SUPER STAR.
- 00:24:32.290 --> 00:24:35.100
- MY MIND IS CLEARER NOW ...
- 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:39.190
- AT LAST ALL TOO WELL I CAN SEE ...
- 00:24:39.210 --> 00:24:45.000
- WHERE WE ALL SOON WILL BE ...
- 00:24:45.020 --> 00:24:48.240
- IF YOU STRIP AWAY THE MYTH FROM THE MAN ...
- 00:24:48.260 --> 00:24:54.240
- YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE ALL SOON WILL BE ...
- 00:24:54.260 --> 00:25:01.010
- - OH MY GOSH.
- 00:25:01.030 --> 00:25:02.180
- - OPENING NUMBER.
- 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:03.280
- THAT'S JUDAS ISCARIOT LOOKING DOWN AND DARING TO
- 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.070
- CAST DISPERSIONS UPON THE MAN.
- 00:25:06.090 --> 00:25:09.020
- - THE ART AND FAITH, THEY USED TO BE
- 00:25:09.040 --> 00:25:17.100
- KIND OF MERGED.
- 00:25:17.120 --> 00:25:19.030
- - OH MAN, I LOVE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.
- 00:25:19.050 --> 00:25:21.050
- - OKAY. HELP ME HERE.
- 00:25:21.070 --> 00:25:23.150
- - OKAY.
- 00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:24.230
- SO THE KEY TO WRECKING ANY GREAT THING IS TO
- 00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:27.260
- FIRST REMOVE THE ART FROM IT.
- 00:25:27.280 --> 00:25:30.080
- - OH MY GOSH.
- 00:25:30.100 --> 00:25:31.270
- - THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
- 00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:33.110
- AND WE ALWAYS LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN HIGH
- 00:25:33.130 --> 00:25:34.250
- SCHOOLS LIKE OH, THEY TOOK OUT ALL THE ART
- 00:25:34.270 --> 00:25:37.060
- PROGRAMS AND THEN THEY TOOK OUT THE SHOP STUFF,
- 00:25:37.080 --> 00:25:40.110
- BUT DIDN'T REALLY HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
- 00:25:40.130 --> 00:25:41.260
- WHAT THEY DID FIRST, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER BACK
- 00:25:41.280 --> 00:25:45.140
- WHEN SHOP WAS CALLED VOCATIONAL ARTS.
- 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.280
- - REALLY?
- 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.120
- - OH, YEAH.
- 00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:50.200
- V.A., THE VOCATIONAL ARTS IS WHAT A CARPENTER WOULD
- 00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:54.060
- BE ESSENTIALLY LOOKED AT AS AN ARTIST WHO WAS
- 00:25:54.080 --> 00:25:57.210
- LEARNING TO WORK IN THE MEDIUM OF WOOD.
- 00:25:57.230 --> 00:26:00.130
- - GOT IT.
- 00:26:00.150 --> 00:26:01.090
- - RIGHT.
- 00:26:01.110 --> 00:26:02.170
- YOU PROBABLY KNOW A FAIRLY FAMOUS CARPENTER
- 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:03.280
- WHO WAS PROBABLY FAIRLY ARTISTIC AT HIS CRAFT
- 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.260
- ONCE UPON A TIME, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE ART OUT
- 00:26:06.280 --> 00:26:10.140
- OF THE WORK, THEN YOU'RE JUST LEFT WITH SOMETHING
- 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.110
- THAT CLOSER APPROACHES DRUDGERY.
- 00:26:13.130 --> 00:26:17.160
- SO WHEN THEY TOOK THE ART OUT OF THE VOCATIONAL
- 00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:20.040
- ARTS, IT BECAME VO-TECH, AND VO-TECH ANY TIME YOU
- 00:26:20.060 --> 00:26:25.240
- HYPHENATE SOMETHING IN SCHOOL IT'S A BAD SIGN.
- 00:26:25.260 --> 00:26:27.170
- SO VO-TECH WAS IMMEDIATELY IN TROUBLE SO
- 00:26:27.190 --> 00:26:29.210
- THEY CHANGED IT TO SHOP, AND WHEN THEY CHANGED IT
- 00:26:29.230 --> 00:26:33.210
- TO SHOP, IT MADE IT A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO WALK
- 00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:35.230
- OUT BEHIND THE BARN AND SHOOT.
- 00:26:35.250 --> 00:26:37.200
- AND THAT'S HOW SHOP CLASS LEFT HIGH SCHOOL.
- 00:26:37.220 --> 00:26:39.090
- WE STARTED BY TAKING THE ART OUT OF THE WORK.
- 00:26:39.110 --> 00:26:42.180
- SO IF YOU TAKE THE ART OUT OF FAITH, IF YOU TAKE
- 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.260
- THE ART OUT OF LITERATURE, IF YOU
- 00:26:45.280 --> 00:26:48.120
- -- NOTHING HAS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF TIME BEEN
- 00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:52.250
- IMPROVED BY MAKING IT LESS ARTISTIC.
- 00:26:52.270 --> 00:26:56.150
- - WOW.
- 00:26:56.170 --> 00:26:57.230
- - THINK OF YOUR FAVORITE PREACHERS, THINK OF YOUR
- 00:26:57.250 --> 00:27:00.210
- FAVORITE ORATORS, OF COURSE OF THE SUBSTANCE
- 00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:04.160
- MATTERS MOST BUT BEYOND THAT, WHO ARE THE ONES
- 00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:07.140
- YOU REALLY LEAN INTO?
- 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.050
- WHO GETS YOU ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT AND MAKES
- 00:27:09.070 --> 00:27:11.250
- YOU REALLY LISTEN?
- 00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:13.110
- YOU KNOW, IT'S PART CONVICTION, YOU KNOW,
- 00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:16.180
- IT'S PART PASSION, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING
- 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:19.030
- INDEFINABLE IN THERE, AND IT'S THE ART.
- 00:27:19.050 --> 00:27:21.020
- - FOR ME IT'S MIKE ROWE.
- 00:27:21.040 --> 00:27:25.090
- YOU INSTILL THAT EMOTION IN A LOT OF PEOPLE.
- 00:27:25.110 --> 00:27:28.070
- YOUR NEW BOOK, NEW YORK TIME BEST SELLER,
- 00:27:28.090 --> 00:27:30.280
- "THE WAY I HEARD IT".
- 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:32.190
- "THE BIGGEST NAME IN TOWN" IS THE NAME OF ONE OF
- 00:27:32.210 --> 00:27:36.210
- YOUR PODCASTS, AND YOUR PODCAST IS THE WAY I
- 00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:40.100
- HEARD IT, AND YOUR STYLE INSPIRED A LOT OF US AT
- 00:27:40.120 --> 00:27:47.180
- TBN, AND WE TOOK YOUR KIND OF RAW FOOTAGE AND
- 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:52.050
- TURNED IT INTO THIS.
- 00:27:52.070 --> 00:27:53.200
- THIS IS THE BIGGEST NAME IN TOWN. WATCH THIS.
- 00:27:53.220 --> 00:27:56.150
- - HIGH IN THE HILLS OF A TOWN WITHOUT PITY,
- 00:27:59.270 --> 00:28:02.110
- A STUBBORN SUN SLOWLY SETS ON A WARM SEPTEMBER EVENING
- 00:28:02.130 --> 00:28:05.260
- AS A YOUNG STARLET WALKED UP THE SHOULDER OF
- 00:28:05.280 --> 00:28:08.120
- A CANYON ROAD AND ON TO THE PROPERTY OF
- 00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:11.030
- THE BIGGEST NAME IN TOWN.
- 00:28:11.050 --> 00:28:13.060
- SHE WAS APPREHENSIVE, UNDERSTANDABLY, PARTLY
- 00:28:13.080 --> 00:28:15.150
- BECAUSE IT WAS GETTING DARK, PARTLY BECAUSE SHE
- 00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.290
- WAS TRESPASSING, AND PARTLY BECAUSE SHE WAS
- 00:28:18.010 --> 00:28:21.090
- GOING TO KILL SOMEONE. FOR THE RECORD,
- 00:28:21.110 --> 00:28:24.130
- THE STARLET WAS NOT VIOLENT BY NATURE
- 00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:26.230
- BUT DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES.
- 00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:31.210
- THE HEAD OF THE STUDIO, A FECKLESS FOOL WITHOUT
- 00:28:31.230 --> 00:28:33.240
- TASTE OR COMMON SENSE HAD CUT HER OUT OF THE FILM
- 00:28:33.260 --> 00:28:37.190
- THAT WOULD HAVE MADE HER FAMOUS.
- 00:28:37.210 --> 00:28:39.170
- IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE, HER LONG ANTICIPATED
- 00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:41.270
- DEBUT ON THE SILVER SCREEN HAD BEEN REDUCED
- 00:28:41.290 --> 00:28:44.150
- TO A PILE OF WORTHLESS CELLULOID ON
- 00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:46.230
- THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR.
- 00:28:46.250 --> 00:28:48.140
- THE DETERMINED STARLET WAS SMILING IN SPITE OF
- 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.220
- HER DARK PURPOSE. IT FELT GOOD TO FIGHT BACK.
- 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:54.240
- THREE DAYS LATER, A HIKER FOUND THE MANGLED VICTIM
- 00:28:54.260 --> 00:28:58.250
- IN A NEARBY RAVINE.
- 00:28:58.270 --> 00:29:01.200
- DETECTIVES WERE CALLED, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE
- 00:29:01.220 --> 00:29:04.210
- A HARD-BOILED GUMSHOE OR A SUNSET BOULEVARD
- 00:29:04.230 --> 00:29:07.170
- SHAMEST TO FIGURE OUT WHO HAD DONE IT.
- 00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:09.170
- THE COPS KNEW ALL ABOUT THE STARLET'S ABRUPT
- 00:29:09.190 --> 00:29:11.250
- REMOVAL FROM 13 WOMEN, HER FIRST AND LAST
- 00:29:11.270 --> 00:29:15.190
- MAJOR MOTION PICTURE.
- 00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:17.150
- BUT IT WAS THE CONTENTS OF HER PURSE THAT CLOSED
- 00:29:17.170 --> 00:29:19.240
- THE CASE MOMENTS AFTER IT WAS OPENED.
- 00:29:19.260 --> 00:29:22.240
- SPECIFICALLY, THE SHORT NOTE THAT READ
- 00:29:22.260 --> 00:29:25.260
- "I'M AFRAID I'M A COWARD, I'M SORRY FOR EVERYTHING.
- 00:29:25.280 --> 00:29:29.290
- IF I HAD DONE THIS A LONG TIME AGO, IT WOULD HAVE
- 00:29:30.010 --> 00:29:32.000
- SAVED A LOT OF PAIN."
- 00:29:32.020 --> 00:29:34.070
- IT WAS THERE AT THE END OF A CANYON ROAD CALLED
- 00:29:34.090 --> 00:29:37.090
- BEACH ROAD THAT POOR PEG, HER SPIRIT BROKEN BY
- 00:29:37.110 --> 00:29:41.010
- EMPTY PROMISES AND SHATTERED BY DREAMS MADE
- 00:29:41.030 --> 00:29:44.030
- GOOD ON HER PROMISE TO KILL SOMEONE BY CLIMBING
- 00:29:44.050 --> 00:29:47.250
- THE RUNGS OF A RICKETY LADDER, SCRAMBLING ON TO
- 00:29:47.270 --> 00:29:50.110
- THE TOP OF THE GIANT "H" AND THROWING HERSELF OFF
- 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:54.020
- THE HOLLYWOOD SIGN.
- 00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:56.080
- IT WAS AFTER ALL THE BIGGEST NAME IN TOWN.
- 00:29:56.100 --> 00:30:01.290
- ANYWAY, THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD IT.
- 00:30:02.010 --> 00:30:04.240
- [MUSIC]
- 00:30:04.260 --> 00:30:11.230
- - ISN'T THAT AMAZING.
- 00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:15.120
- THE, THE EMOTION THAT A STORY CAN EVOKE.
- 00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:20.080
- - UH-HUH.
- 00:30:20.100 --> 00:30:22.070
- - UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT JUST FOR A MINUTE.
- 00:30:22.090 --> 00:30:26.020
- THE WAY I HEARD IT, YOUR NEWEST BOOK, COULD YOU
- 00:30:26.040 --> 00:30:31.250
- DO THE POSE ON THE BOOK BY THE WAY.
- 00:30:31.270 --> 00:30:33.100
- JUST KIND OF...
- 00:30:33.120 --> 00:30:35.150
- DO A LITTLE MINI VERSE VERSION OF IT.
- 00:30:35.170 --> 00:30:39.130
- - YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY, I ACTUALLY HAD THIS SAME
- 00:30:39.150 --> 00:30:41.010
- SHIRT ON THIS MORNING.
- 00:30:41.030 --> 00:30:42.220
- - OH, YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT.
- 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.080
- - I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE TOO WEIRD.
- 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:45.290
- I THOUGHT PEOPLE'S HEADS WOULD EXPLODE.
- 00:30:46.010 --> 00:30:47.100
- THEY'D SEE ME DOING THIS HERE AND ME DOING THAT THERE.
- 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:49.010
- I KNEW YOU'D ASK ME TO DO IT.
- 00:30:49.030 --> 00:30:50.260
- PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK OR WHAT TO DO.
- 00:30:50.280 --> 00:30:54.280
- - A LITTLE MINI-ME VERSION OF YOU.
- 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.080
- - MINI ME.
- 00:30:59.100 --> 00:31:02.000
- - WHEN DID YOU EMBRACE STORY? WHEN DID YOU--
- 00:31:03.210 --> 00:31:08.140
- WERE YOU A YOUNG STORY TELLER AS A CHILD?
- 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.210
- LET'S START AT THE BEGINNING, GET ALL THE
- 00:31:11.230 --> 00:31:13.280
- WAY THROUGH THIS THING.
- 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.190
- - WELL IN THE BEGINNING, THE EARTH WAS
- 00:31:15.210 --> 00:31:17.110
- WITHOUT FORM AND VOID.
- 00:31:17.130 --> 00:31:19.180
- DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO TO THE BEGINNING?
- 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.110
- - AND DARKNESS WAS UPON THE FACE OF THE DEEP.
- 00:31:21.130 --> 00:31:24.040
- - AND EMPTINESS WAS UPON THE FACE OF THIS THEATER,
- 00:31:24.060 --> 00:31:26.260
- WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO COME HERE.
- 00:31:26.280 --> 00:31:28.200
- BACK TO HUMILITY, I THOUGHT THERE WAS
- 00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:30.060
- SOMETHING INTERESTING ABOUT TALKING TO
- 00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:33.100
- AN EMPTY ROOM OR CAMERA.
- 00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:36.030
- - INTERESTING.
- 00:31:36.050 --> 00:31:37.130
- - ON THE ONE SENSE IT'S AN AUDIENCE OF ONE, AND
- 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:39.140
- THE OTHER SENSE IT'S JUST BOLD AND BRAVE TO DO THIS
- 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.170
- KIND OF THING, COME OUT AND SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF
- 00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:45.070
- AN EMPTY THEATER AND TELL STORIES, ALTHOUGH THERE
- 00:31:45.090 --> 00:31:47.100
- MIGHT HAVE BEEN PEOPLE IN HIS THEATER NOW THAT
- 00:31:47.120 --> 00:31:49.010
- I THINK ABOUT IT. THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.
- 00:31:49.030 --> 00:31:51.070
- THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION TRULY IS ONCE UPON A TIME.
- 00:31:51.090 --> 00:31:55.020
- IT'S A, IT'S A FIRE, I'M IN THE BOY SCOUTS,
- 00:31:55.040 --> 00:32:00.060
- I'M 14, 15, SHY, WRESTLING WITH A CHRONIC STAMMER
- 00:32:00.080 --> 00:32:10.100
- THAT PLAGUED ME UNTIL I WAS 16, 17 YEARS OLD.
- 00:32:10.120 --> 00:32:14.080
- NOT A FULL ON PORKY PIG STUTTER, RIGHT, BUT JUST
- 00:32:14.100 --> 00:32:17.190
- A STAMMER BROUGHT ABOUT BY NERVOUSNESS, AND I
- 00:32:17.210 --> 00:32:21.040
- TALK ABOUT HOW THAT GOT CURED BY A TEACHER.
- 00:32:21.060 --> 00:32:24.230
- REMARKABLE STORY. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
- 00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:27.210
- I SAW A GUY GET UP AND WALK TO THE FIRE AND THERE
- 00:32:27.230 --> 00:32:32.040
- WERE ABOUT FIFTY OR SIXTY BOY SCOUTS SITTING THERE,
- 00:32:32.060 --> 00:32:35.000
- MOON WAS FULL, FIRE WAS CRACKLING, AND HE LOOKED
- 00:32:35.020 --> 00:32:39.220
- AT US AND HE STARTED RECITING A POEM.
- 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.080
- IT WAS THE CREMATION OF SAM MCGEE IN FACT.
- 00:32:43.100 --> 00:32:45.290
- AND I HAD A MOMENT.
- 00:32:46.010 --> 00:32:48.230
- I WAS NOT JUST TRANSPORTED BY THE BASICS
- 00:32:48.250 --> 00:32:52.160
- OF A GOOD STORY IN FIRE LIGHT WITH THE MOON
- 00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:56.030
- HIGH IN THE SKY.
- 00:32:56.050 --> 00:32:58.040
- I REALIZED I WAS MEMORIZING WITHOUT TRYING
- 00:32:58.060 --> 00:33:03.190
- TO MEMORIZE, IT WAS ONE OF THE MASLOW WRITES
- 00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:06.160
- ABOUT THIS, LIKE THESE PEEK EXPERIENCES WHERE
- 00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:08.290
- SUDDENLY, LATER THAT NIGHT THE NEXT DAY,
- 00:33:09.010 --> 00:33:12.150
- I REMEMBERED THE POEM. I MEAN IT'S A LONG POEM.
- 00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:17.210
- BUT SITTING THERE AND JUST BEING COMPLETELY IN
- 00:33:17.230 --> 00:33:21.030
- THE MOMENT, "THERE ARE STRANGE THINGS DONE IN
- 00:33:21.050 --> 00:33:23.190
- "THE MIDNIGHT SUN BY THE MEN WHO MOIL FOR GOLD,
- 00:33:23.210 --> 00:33:27.000
- "THE ARCTIC TRAILS HAVE THEIR SECRET TALES THAT
- 00:33:27.020 --> 00:33:29.120
- "WOULD MAKE YOUR BLOOD RUN COLD, THE NORTHERN LIGHTS
- 00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:31.120
- "HAVE SEEN QUEER SIGHTS BUT THE QUEEREST THEY EVER
- 00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:33.190
- "DID SEE WAS THAT NIGHT ON THE MARGE OF LAKE LE BARGE
- 00:33:33.210 --> 00:33:37.060
- "WHEN I CREMATED SAM MCGEE."
- 00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:39.280
- DUDE, I'M IN.
- 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.260
- - AGE?
- 00:33:42.280 --> 00:33:43.280
- - 14. 14.
- 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.100
- SO POETRY, CAMP FIRES, MEN TELLING STORIES WITH
- 00:33:46.120 --> 00:33:53.030
- UNASHAMED SENTIMENTALITY, REALLY KIND OF PAVED THE
- 00:33:53.050 --> 00:33:57.280
- WAY FOR SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR A COUPLE YEARS
- 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.080
- LATER WHEN MY HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER INTRODUCED ME TO
- 00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:03.260
- THE VAGARIES AND STRANGENESS AND JOYS OF
- 00:34:03.280 --> 00:34:07.210
- BARBERSHOP QUARTET SINGING.
- 00:34:07.230 --> 00:34:09.280
- AND FRED KING WAS HIS NAME.
- 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:11.220
- HE DIRECTED THE CHORUS OF THE CHESAPEAKE.
- 00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:14.000
- A HUNDRED AND TWENTY SOME MEN, MANY OF WHOM FOUGHT
- 00:34:14.020 --> 00:34:17.280
- IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR, LOTS OF WHOM FOUGHT IN
- 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.080
- THE KOREAN WAR, VETERANS WHO WOULD STAND THERE
- 00:34:21.100 --> 00:34:24.120
- SHOULDER TO SHOULDER EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT AND
- 00:34:24.140 --> 00:34:27.020
- SING SONGS ABOUT MOTHERS AND BEST FRIENDS WHO
- 00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:32.220
- WOULD NEVER LET YOU DOWN AND THEIR FIRST CAR.
- 00:34:32.240 --> 00:34:36.130
- I MEAN, IT WAS SO HOKEY AND SO SENTIMENTAL THAT
- 00:34:36.150 --> 00:34:40.020
- NONE OF MY FRIENDS BUT FOR THE THREE OTHERS THAT
- 00:34:40.040 --> 00:34:42.290
- SANG WITH ME IN A QUARTET, YOU COULDN'T LOOK
- 00:34:43.010 --> 00:34:46.270
- AT THAT AND NOT FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ON THE OUTSIDE
- 00:34:46.290 --> 00:34:49.110
- OF COOL, BUT INSIDE IT, AFTER THOSE REHEARSALS,
- 00:34:49.130 --> 00:34:53.250
- SITTING DOWN WITH SOME OF THESE GUYS AND LISTENING
- 00:34:53.270 --> 00:34:57.280
- TO THEM SING SONGS ABOUT THEIR CHILDHOOD AND ABOUT
- 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.200
- THEIR WIVES, MAYBE THEY'RE WIDOWERS, THE SADDEST
- 00:35:02.220 --> 00:35:06.270
- SONGS I EVER HEARD I HEARD IN A LITTLE JOINT
- 00:35:06.290 --> 00:35:10.280
- CALLED JOHNNY JONES EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT AFTER
- 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.170
- REHEARSALS OF THE CHORUS OF THE CHESAPEAKE.
- 00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:16.110
- AND I'M TELLING YOU, MATT, THESE SONGS.
- 00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:18.180
- THE TURN OF THE CENTURY PEOPLE WROTE SONGS IN A
- 00:35:18.200 --> 00:35:21.140
- WAY THAT HAD TO I THINK CHANNEL GRIEF DIFFERENTLY
- 00:35:21.160 --> 00:35:25.050
- THAN WE DO TODAY.
- 00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:26.190
- THERE WAS NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT.
- 00:35:26.210 --> 00:35:29.110
- SO YOU HAD SONGS LIKE-- OH, MAN,
- 00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:33.010
- "DEAR OLD GIRL,
- 00:35:33.030 --> 00:35:36.190
- "THE ROBIN SINGS ABOVE YOU, DEAR OLD GIRL."
- 00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:39.260
- THIS IS A SONG, I'M WATCHING FOUR MEN ALL OF
- 00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:42.160
- WHOM HAVE LOST THEIR WIVES ALL IN THEIR LATE
- 00:35:42.180 --> 00:35:45.050
- 80'S AND EARLY 90'S SITTING AROUND A LITTLE
- 00:35:45.070 --> 00:35:47.180
- SQUARE TABLE HARMONIZING.
- 00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:51.170
- "TWAS A SUNNY DAY IN JUNE AND ALL THE BIRDS WERE
- 00:35:51.190 --> 00:35:54.040
- "ALL IN TUNE, AND THE SONGS THEY SANG ALL MADE
- 00:35:54.060 --> 00:35:56.060
- "ME THINK OF YOU, AND THE WORDS YOU CAME TO SPEAK
- 00:35:56.080 --> 00:35:58.180
- "BROUGHT THE BLUSHES TO MY CHEEK AS YOU WHISPERED
- 00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:01.260
- "YES AND FONDLY KISSED ME TOO.
- 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.140
- "I CAN SEE THE LOVE LIGHT SHINE IN YOUR BRIGHT EYES,
- 00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:06.220
- "SWEETHEART MINE, AS THE PREACHER SAID THE WORDS
- 00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:09.020
- "THAT MADE US ONE, AND YOU WERE FAITHFUL WIFE
- 00:36:09.040 --> 00:36:12.110
- "THROUGH THE CHANGING SCENES OF LIFE TILL THE
- 00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:14.280
- "MASTER SAID YOUR WORK ON EARTH WAS DONE."
- 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.250
- AND HERE'S-- THIS PART KILLS ME.
- 00:36:18.270 --> 00:36:21.050
- "DEAR OLD GIRL, THE ROBIN SINGS ABOVE YOU, DEAR OLD
- 00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:25.130
- "GIRL, IT SPEAKS OF HOW I LOVE YOU, THE BLINDING
- 00:36:25.150 --> 00:36:28.240
- "TEARS ARE FALLING AS I THINK OF MY LOST PEARL
- 00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:32.150
- "AND MY BROKEN HEART IS CALLING, CALLING FOR YOU
- 00:36:32.170 --> 00:36:36.190
- "DEAR OLD GIRL."
- 00:36:36.210 --> 00:36:38.150
- NOW, ME AND THAT GUY CHUCK, PRODUCER, THE WAY
- 00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:41.200
- I HEARD IT, WE'RE SITTING IN JOHNNY JONES, WE'RE 17
- 00:36:41.220 --> 00:36:44.230
- AND 16 WATCHING FOUR MEN WHO HAD LOST THEIR WIVES
- 00:36:44.250 --> 00:36:50.130
- ALL OF WHOM HAD SERVED, ALL OF WHOM HAD BEEN
- 00:36:50.150 --> 00:36:53.030
- DECORATED, SING THIS SONG AS TEARS RUN DOWN THEIR
- 00:36:53.050 --> 00:36:57.140
- CHEEKS AND IT'S SO SAD, THE ONLY THING WE CAN
- 00:36:57.160 --> 00:37:00.250
- DO IS SHAKE OUR HEADS AND GIGGLE.
- 00:37:00.270 --> 00:37:03.040
- IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, BUT THE MEN LAUGHED TOO, AND
- 00:37:03.060 --> 00:37:06.220
- THEY GO AROUND THE ROOM SINGING IN A CAPPELLA
- 00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:10.100
- THESE IMPOSSIBLY SAD SONGS SO MAUDLIN, SO
- 00:37:10.120 --> 00:37:14.020
- GRIM, THAT MANY COLLAPSE UNDER THE WEIGHT OF THEIR
- 00:37:14.040 --> 00:37:17.160
- OWN MAWKISHNESS, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE
- 00:37:17.180 --> 00:37:22.000
- IT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND IT'S A VERY LONG ANSWER TO YOUR
- 00:37:22.020 --> 00:37:24.190
- QUESTION, BUT THAT'S WHAT STORY TELLING IS SOMETIMES.
- 00:37:24.210 --> 00:37:28.030
- - I THINK THAT WAS THE LONGEST I'VE EVER BEEN QUIET.
- 00:37:28.050 --> 00:37:32.200
- - HONESTLY, WE WERE WORRIED.
- 00:37:32.220 --> 00:37:34.240
- YOUR CAMERA GUYS ARE LIKE SOMEBODY,
- 00:37:34.260 --> 00:37:36.150
- BREATHE! BREATHE MATT!
- 00:37:36.170 --> 00:37:39.070
- - SO YOU ARE INTERESTING AND ARTICULATE.
- 00:37:39.090 --> 00:37:44.090
- - OPINIONS VARY BUT THANK YOU.
- 00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:46.040
- - AND WHAT I AM SITTING HERE SENSING IS WHAT IF I
- 00:37:46.060 --> 00:37:53.250
- NEVER GOT PAST THE MIKE ROWE THAT I SAW ON
- 00:37:53.270 --> 00:37:58.100
- TELEVISION, I WAS INTRODUCED TO YOU NOT IN
- 00:37:58.120 --> 00:38:01.270
- GOOD EVENING SAN FRANCISCO, I DIDN'T LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO.
- 00:38:01.290 --> 00:38:04.230
- - YOU DON'T WANT TO.
- 00:38:04.250 --> 00:38:06.190
- - YEAH. NO.
- 00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:08.230
- WELL WE'LL RUN A LITTLE PIECE OF IT.
- 00:38:08.250 --> 00:38:11.020
- - AH...SODOM. AND GOMORRAH. [LAUGHS]
- 00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:14.210
- - AND SO BASICALLY YOU GOT INTRODUCED TO OUR
- 00:38:14.230 --> 00:38:19.080
- FAMILY IN A TV PROGRAM ON DISCOVERY CHANNEL
- 00:38:19.100 --> 00:38:23.110
- CALLED DIRTY JOBS.
- 00:38:23.130 --> 00:38:25.130
- ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES IF NOT THE FIRST TIME I SAW
- 00:38:25.150 --> 00:38:28.070
- YOU, YOU WERE NOT SIMPLY IN A SEWER WHERE YOU
- 00:38:28.090 --> 00:38:33.000
- COULD PULL JUST THE TOP ROUND THING OFF THE
- 00:38:33.020 --> 00:38:35.240
- STREET AND GO IN.
- 00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:37.130
- YOU WERE DOWN IN WHERE THE SEWER DUMPED INTO.
- 00:38:37.150 --> 00:38:41.220
- YOU WERE ABOUT TO YOUR WADED BOOTS
- 00:38:41.240 --> 00:38:45.090
- ABOUT THE KNEE.
- 00:38:45.110 --> 00:38:47.090
- - WHERE THE CHILI MEETS THE CHEESE, AS WE SAY.
- 00:38:47.110 --> 00:38:49.040
- - EXACTLY. IN THE BOWELS OF THE SEWER SYSTEM OF
- 00:38:49.060 --> 00:38:53.020
- SAN FRANCISCO WHICH IS QUITE POSSIBLY THE MOST
- 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:57.110
- HORRIBLE PLACE YOU COULD POSSIBLY BE.
- 00:38:57.130 --> 00:38:59.180
- - WELL, ABOVE ON THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO
- 00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.280
- NOW TOO IS ALSO QUITE GRIM BUT CONTINUE.
- 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.170
- - YES. AND SO HERE I SIT.
- 00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:07.270
- WHAT IF PART OF WHAT LIFE IS SUPPOSED TO BE IS TO
- 00:39:07.290 --> 00:39:14.110
- GET PAST WHAT YOUR PERCEPTION OF SOMEBODY IS
- 00:39:14.130 --> 00:39:18.240
- AND FIND OUT WHO THE REAL PERSON IS.
- 00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:21.040
- - WHAT IF THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT?
- 00:39:21.060 --> 00:39:22.210
- - WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
- 00:39:22.230 --> 00:39:24.210
- - WHAT IF THE STUFF THAT GOES ON UNDER THE STREET
- 00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:26.160
- OUT OF SIGHT IS ACTUALLY THE PLACE WHERE THE MOST
- 00:39:26.180 --> 00:39:30.140
- INTERESTING STORIES LIE?
- 00:39:30.160 --> 00:39:32.250
- WHAT IF IT'S WHAT'S UNDER THE ROCK?
- 00:39:32.270 --> 00:39:34.290
- WHAT IF REAL CURIOSITY CAN ACTUALLY GET YOU
- 00:39:35.010 --> 00:39:37.030
- OUT INTO THE WORLD TO TAKE A PEEK AND MAYBE
- 00:39:37.050 --> 00:39:39.060
- WALK IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S SHOES.
- 00:39:39.080 --> 00:39:41.070
- - TO CLARIFY THE FIRST TIME I SAW YOU, YOU WERE
- 00:39:41.090 --> 00:39:43.120
- STANDING KNEE DEEP IN CRAP.
- 00:39:43.140 --> 00:39:45.250
- - THAT'S CORRECT.
- 00:39:45.270 --> 00:39:47.180
- - AND I COULD HAVE DISMISSED YOU, BUT
- 00:39:47.200 --> 00:39:51.260
- INSTEAD I WAS LIKE A MOTH TO THE FLAME.
- 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:56.120
- - YOU SICKO. SICK MAN. [LAUGHTER]
- 00:39:56.140 --> 00:39:58.170
- - AND NOW I SIT HERE WITH INTERESTING AND
- 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:03.210
- ARTICULATE MIKE ROWE, AND I WONDER IF WE'RE ALL
- 00:40:03.230 --> 00:40:10.090
- SUPPOSED TO GET PAST THE CRAP AND FIND OUT
- 00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:14.210
- WHO THE REAL PERSON IS.
- 00:40:14.230 --> 00:40:16.220
- - I DON'T.
- 00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:18.090
- I BELIEVE IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE POINT, THE PURPOSE,
- 00:40:18.110 --> 00:40:22.230
- AND IT'S NOT DRUDGERY, IT'S THE FUN OF IT.
- 00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:25.220
- IT'S THE FUN OF IT.
- 00:40:25.240 --> 00:40:28.230
- TO BE, LOOK, I HAD A DECENT CAREER FOR 15
- 00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:32.200
- YEARS IMPERSONATING A HOST.
- 00:40:32.220 --> 00:40:35.050
- I WAS FACILE, AND I WAS BELIEVABLE.
- 00:40:35.070 --> 00:40:39.110
- I COULD AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST
- 00:40:39.130 --> 00:40:42.180
- CREATE THE ILLUSION OF COMPETENCE IN A
- 00:40:42.200 --> 00:40:45.090
- CONVINCING WAY IN SHORT BURSTS AND THAT'S WHAT
- 00:40:45.110 --> 00:40:48.070
- I WAS PAID TO DO.
- 00:40:48.090 --> 00:40:49.250
- DIRTY JOBS, IN FACT THE EPISODE YOU'RE TALKING
- 00:40:49.270 --> 00:40:52.080
- ABOUT, REALLY FORGIVE ME BUT IT WAS A KIND OF
- 00:40:52.100 --> 00:40:58.240
- HORRIBLE NON- TRADITIONAL BAPTISM.
- 00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:02.160
- I WAS IN-- I'M JUST SAYING.
- 00:41:02.180 --> 00:41:05.260
- FOR ME, WHEN YOU REALIZE AS I DID IN THE SEWERS OF
- 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.150
- SAN FRANCISCO THAT I WASN'T MEANT TO BE A HOST.
- 00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:14.070
- THE THING I'D BEEN DOING FOR FIFTEEN YEARS, I WAS
- 00:41:14.090 --> 00:41:16.290
- WORKING WITH A SEWER INSPECTOR DURING THAT
- 00:41:17.010 --> 00:41:19.190
- EPISODE AND HE, A FELLOW NAMED GENE CRUISE,
- 00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:22.260
- WAS REALLY THE EXPERT.
- 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.010
- I JUST DIDN'T SEE HIM THAT WAY BECAUSE I HAD
- 00:41:25.030 --> 00:41:27.010
- GONE INTO THE SEWER TO MAKE GOOD ON MY MOTHER'S
- 00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:29.200
- REQUEST TO SHOOT SOMETHING THAT MY
- 00:41:29.220 --> 00:41:31.250
- GRANDFATHER WOULD RECOGNIZE AS WORK.
- 00:41:31.270 --> 00:41:34.170
- SO I'M BASICALLY HONORING OH, GOSH, WHICH COMMANDMENT?
- 00:41:34.190 --> 00:41:38.230
- HONOR THY FATHER?
- 00:41:38.250 --> 00:41:40.110
- - ABOUT THE FIFTH OR SIXTH.
- 00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:42.020
- - ABOUT THE FIFTH, MATT?
- 00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:43.190
- - CLOSE ENOUGH.
- 00:41:43.210 --> 00:41:44.200
- - A MAN IN YOUR POSITION.
- 00:41:44.220 --> 00:41:46.210
- HONOR MY FATHER AND MOTHER, WHICH ONE?
- 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:49.270
- FIFTH. OKAY. SO THERE I AM.
- 00:41:49.290 --> 00:41:51.260
- - I WAS RIGHT. JUST TRYING TO BE HUMBLE.
- 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.270
- - YOU WERE "RIGHTISH".
- 00:41:53.290 --> 00:41:56.130
- OR FIFTH, SIXTH.
- 00:41:56.150 --> 00:41:58.130
- SO I'M DOWN IN THE SEWER HONORING MY MOTHER'S
- 00:41:58.150 --> 00:42:00.210
- WISHES BUT STILL TRYING TO BE THE HOST THAT THE
- 00:42:00.230 --> 00:42:04.270
- CREDITS OF THAT PARTICULAR SHOW SAID I
- 00:42:04.290 --> 00:42:07.160
- WAS, EVENING MAGAZINE, AND REALIZING AFTER THE
- 00:42:07.180 --> 00:42:12.020
- SEWER KEPT ME FROM DOING MY JOB.
- 00:42:12.040 --> 00:42:15.140
- THE ROACHES DOWN THERE ARE THE SIZE OF YOUR THUMB.
- 00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:17.230
- THEY WILL CRAWL EVERYWHERE.
- 00:42:17.250 --> 00:42:19.240
- THEY'LL GET DOWN IN YOUR COLLAR, THEY'LL GET IN
- 00:42:19.260 --> 00:42:21.270
- YOUR EARS, THEY'LL MAKE YOU CRAZY.
- 00:42:21.290 --> 00:42:23.180
- THEY'LL DISTRACT YOU FROM DOING YOUR JOB.
- 00:42:23.200 --> 00:42:25.260
- THE RATS ARE THE SIZE OF LOAVES OF BREAD.
- 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.200
- THEY WILL PERCH ON YOUR SHOULDER LIKE A PARROT,
- 00:42:28.220 --> 00:42:30.290
- THEY WILL SQUEAL IN YOUR EAR, JUMP IN YOUR LAP AND
- 00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:33.230
- THEY WILL SEND YOU HURDLING SKYWARD ONLY TO
- 00:42:33.250 --> 00:42:36.090
- SMASH YOUR HEAD AND TO FALL FACE FIRST INTO THE
- 00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:39.090
- WORST OF IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
- 00:42:39.110 --> 00:42:41.250
- YOU CAN'T TAKE YOURSELF TOO SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU'RE
- 00:42:41.270 --> 00:42:45.060
- FACE FIRST IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S POOP, RIGHT?
- 00:42:45.080 --> 00:42:47.160
- YOU JUST CAN'T. AND THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK FOR ME.
- 00:42:47.180 --> 00:42:51.040
- THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK TO NOT SEE MYSELF AS A HOST
- 00:42:51.060 --> 00:42:54.280
- BUT TO SAY OKAY, NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN.
- 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.240
- RESET BUTTON.
- 00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:59.060
- THIS GUY WITH ME, GENE, HE'S THE HOST.
- 00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:02.130
- HE'S THE EXPERT. I AM SOMETHING ELSE.
- 00:43:02.150 --> 00:43:05.100
- MAYBE AN APPRENTICE, MAYBE A GUEST, MAYBE A
- 00:43:05.120 --> 00:43:07.240
- CIPHER OR AN AVATAR, BUT I ON THAT DAY STOPPED ACTING
- 00:43:07.260 --> 00:43:14.280
- LIKE A HOST AND STARTED BEING THE DILETTANTE I AM,
- 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.110
- THE AMATEUR.
- 00:43:19.130 --> 00:43:21.100
- - OKAY, I NEED TO CORRECT YOUR THEOLOGY
- 00:43:21.120 --> 00:43:23.240
- IN REGARD TO...
- 00:43:23.260 --> 00:43:25.110
- - SAYS THE GUY WHO "MAYBE IT'S THE FOURTH,
- 00:43:25.130 --> 00:43:26.230
- MAYBE IT'S THE FIFTH."
- 00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:28.070
- - SO HONOR YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR FATHER IS NOT
- 00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:32.280
- DOING WHAT THEY SAY, IT'S DOING WHAT GOD SAYS.
- 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:37.230
- BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY--
- 00:43:37.250 --> 00:43:39.110
- - OKAY. YOU GOT ME. YOU GOT ME.
- 00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:42.170
- ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK MY MOTHER NECESSARILY WAS
- 00:43:42.190 --> 00:43:44.170
- SAYING I JUST HAD A CHAT WITH THE LORD AND I'VE
- 00:43:44.190 --> 00:43:47.120
- GOT NEWS FOR YOU MICHAEL.
- 00:43:47.140 --> 00:43:49.160
- THAT'S NOT HOW IT WAS DELIVERED BUT THAT
- 00:43:49.180 --> 00:43:51.100
- DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE WASN'T SOME
- 00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:54.240
- INVISIBLE HAND AT WORK.
- 00:43:54.260 --> 00:43:56.200
- - EXACTLY.
- 00:43:56.220 --> 00:43:58.100
- MIKE ROWE STEPPED OUT ONTO THIS STAGE NOT LONG
- 00:43:58.120 --> 00:44:02.130
- AGO AND CREATED SOME ROUGH FOOTAGE, THE RAW
- 00:44:02.150 --> 00:44:08.000
- FOOTAGE, THE STORY TELLER VERSION PUT DOWN ON VIDEO,
- 00:44:08.020 --> 00:44:13.060
- AND WE TOOK THAT AND KIND OF MASSAGED IT SOME.
- 00:44:13.080 --> 00:44:19.020
- - YOU TURNED IT INTO A MOVIE!
- 00:44:19.040 --> 00:44:21.050
- A MOVIE IS WHAT YOU DID. LOOK AT THIS. IT'S AMAZING.
- 00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:23.120
- - WATCH THIS.
- 00:44:23.140 --> 00:44:25.000
- - NOT LONG AFTER ITS HISTORIC LAUNCH IN 1990,
- 00:44:25.020 --> 00:44:28.020
- THE HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE BEGAN SENDING
- 00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:30.050
- BACK MUCH ANTICIPATED PHOTOS OF THE COSMOS.
- 00:44:30.070 --> 00:44:33.100
- UNFORTUNATELY, THE PHOTOS THAT CAME BACK WERE
- 00:44:33.120 --> 00:44:35.240
- BLURRY, SO NASA DID THE ONLY THING THEY COULD,
- 00:44:35.260 --> 00:44:38.280
- THEY CALLED IN "CEPI".
- 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.010
- CEPI WAS AN ENGINEER WHO POSSESSED THE
- 00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:42.290
- UNCANNY ABILITY TO REPAIR PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING.
- 00:44:43.010 --> 00:44:47.120
- 84 YEARS EARLIER, THE GARBAGE MAN HITCHED HIS
- 00:44:47.140 --> 00:44:50.150
- WAGON TO HIS HORSE AND HEADED INTO THE CITY TO
- 00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:54.060
- HAUL OUT THE TRASH.
- 00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:56.070
- WE KNOW HE RAN INTO AMADEO IN THE STREET
- 00:44:56.090 --> 00:44:59.000
- SHORTLY THEREAFTER JUST AS THE CITY WAS
- 00:44:59.020 --> 00:45:01.220
- SLIPPING INTO CHAOS.
- 00:45:01.240 --> 00:45:03.180
- WE KNOW THAT AMADEO HAD IN HIS POSSESSION A
- 00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:06.040
- NUMBER OF HEAVY BAGS FILLED WITH GOLD COINS
- 00:45:06.060 --> 00:45:10.020
- WORTH APPROXIMATELY TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
- 00:45:10.040 --> 00:45:12.070
- WE KNOW THAT AMADEO BECAME DESPERATE TO GET
- 00:45:12.090 --> 00:45:14.170
- HIS FORTUNE AWAY FROM THE LOOTERS WHO WOULD SOON
- 00:45:14.190 --> 00:45:17.080
- EMERGE FROM THE LOOMING PANDEMONIUM.
- 00:45:17.100 --> 00:45:19.140
- WE KNOW THAT AMADEO MADE A DEAL WITH THE GARBAGE MAN.
- 00:45:19.160 --> 00:45:23.200
- GET ME OUT OF THIS CITY, HE BEGGED, SO THE GARBAGE
- 00:45:23.220 --> 00:45:26.120
- MAN MADE THE BUSINESSMAN A PROPOSITION.
- 00:45:26.140 --> 00:45:30.050
- I WILL DRIVE YOU AND YOUR TREASURE OUT OF THE CITY,
- 00:45:30.070 --> 00:45:32.290
- HE SAID, IN RETURN I ASK ONLY THAT YOU GIVE MY BOY
- 00:45:33.010 --> 00:45:37.080
- A JOB WHEN HE'S OLD ENOUGH TO BE OF USE.
- 00:45:37.100 --> 00:45:40.200
- THEY SHOOK ON IT.
- 00:45:40.220 --> 00:45:43.200
- IT WAS THE GREAT SAN FRANCISCO EARTHQUAKE OF 1906,
- 00:45:43.220 --> 00:45:47.210
- AND IT WAS THE VERY DEFINITION OF HELL ON EARTH.
- 00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:54.070
- MAYBE YOU KNOW THAT HE RETURNED AND
- 00:45:54.090 --> 00:45:56.110
- BEGAN LOANING MONEY.
- 00:45:56.130 --> 00:45:58.210
- HE MADE GOOD ON HIS PROMISE BY HIRING A
- 00:45:58.230 --> 00:46:01.010
- YOUNG MAN NAMED FRANK CEPOLLINA.
- 00:46:01.030 --> 00:46:04.240
- HE RETIRED EARLY AND RAISED A SON OF HIS OWN,
- 00:46:04.260 --> 00:46:08.220
- AN ENGINEER, WHO THE PEOPLE AT NASA CALLED "CEPI".
- 00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:12.290
- THE GRANDSON OF A GARBAGE MAN GOT THE ROBOTIC ARM
- 00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:16.080
- ON THE ENDEAVOR TO SHAKE HANDS WITH THE HUBBLE.
- 00:46:16.100 --> 00:46:20.150
- CONSEQUENTLY THE TELESCOPE WAS REPAIRED,
- 00:46:20.170 --> 00:46:22.130
- AND TODAY ASTRONOMERS CAN LOOK BACK IN TIME AND SEE
- 00:46:22.150 --> 00:46:25.120
- OUR EXPANDING UNIVERSE IN PERFECT FOCUS.
- 00:46:25.140 --> 00:46:29.080
- A HAND SHAKE BETWEEN A GARBAGE MAN AND A BANKER.
- 00:46:29.100 --> 00:46:32.210
- WITHOUT THAT BIG BANG AND THE HANDSHAKE THAT
- 00:46:32.230 --> 00:46:35.060
- FOLLOWED AMADEO GIANNINI, HIS MODEST LITTLE LENDING
- 00:46:35.080 --> 00:46:40.100
- INSTITUTION ONCE CALLED THE BANK OF ITALY
- 00:46:40.120 --> 00:46:43.250
- WOULD HAVE NEVER BECOME THE BANK OF AMERICA.
- 00:46:43.270 --> 00:46:49.030
- ANYWAY, THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD IT.
- 00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:52.250
- I MEAN YOU CAN'T MAKE IT UP.
- 00:46:57.010 --> 00:46:58.140
- - JUST, YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP.
- 00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:01.020
- SO IN THE BOOK OF MATTHEW IN THE BIBLE, THE
- 00:47:01.040 --> 00:47:09.290
- DISCIPLES COME TO JESUS AT ONE POINT AND THEY SAY
- 00:47:10.010 --> 00:47:13.110
- WHY DO YOU TELL STORIES?
- 00:47:13.130 --> 00:47:16.080
- AND HE SAID IN ONE OF THE TRANSLATIONS, HE SAYS TO
- 00:47:16.100 --> 00:47:23.150
- CREATE READINESS, TO NUDGE PEOPLE TOWARDS
- 00:47:23.170 --> 00:47:29.000
- RECEPTIVE INSIGHT OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
- 00:47:29.020 --> 00:47:32.160
- WHY DO YOU TELL STORIES MIKE ROWE?
- 00:47:32.180 --> 00:47:36.000
- - WELL, IT'S GOING TO FALL A BIT SHORT
- 00:47:36.020 --> 00:47:37.240
- OF THAT MARK I'M AFRAID.
- 00:47:37.260 --> 00:47:39.150
- - THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH BAR.
- 00:47:39.170 --> 00:47:40.250
- - THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH BAR.
- 00:47:40.270 --> 00:47:43.060
- IT'S LIKE THAT GREAT, THERE'S A GREAT CARTOON, PEANUTS.
- 00:47:43.080 --> 00:47:48.000
- - THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING I JUST DID TO YOU.
- 00:47:48.020 --> 00:47:49.210
- - HONESTLY?
- 00:47:49.230 --> 00:47:51.090
- - PRETTY BAD. I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE.
- 00:47:51.110 --> 00:47:54.120
- - I KIND OF DO IT FOR THE MONEY.
- 00:47:54.140 --> 00:47:57.130
- AND YOU KNOW TRYING TO MAKE THE RENT MATT.
- 00:47:57.150 --> 00:48:01.220
- A LOT OF PRESSURE OUT THERE TODAY.
- 00:48:01.240 --> 00:48:04.170
- - WHAT A HORRIBLE THING TO DO TO A PERSON
- 00:48:04.190 --> 00:48:06.140
- THAT I ACTUALLY LIKE.
- 00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:08.000
- - NO, NO, IT'S A GREAT AND FAIR QUESTION AND THE
- 00:48:08.020 --> 00:48:10.160
- HONEST ANSWER IS WHAT I SAID EARLIER, WRITING
- 00:48:10.180 --> 00:48:14.200
- COMPRESSES TIME, AND ANYTHING THAT REALLY
- 00:48:14.220 --> 00:48:18.040
- COMPRESSES TIME IS PROBABLY A THING WORTH
- 00:48:18.060 --> 00:48:20.100
- DOING, SO ON A PURELY SELFISH LEVEL I DO IT
- 00:48:20.120 --> 00:48:23.180
- BECAUSE IT'S VERY SHORT STORIES ARE SO
- 00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:26.180
- SATISFYING, BEGINNING, MIDDLE, END.
- 00:48:26.200 --> 00:48:29.060
- THERE ARE 35 STORIES IN HERE EACH FOLLOWED
- 00:48:29.080 --> 00:48:31.060
- BY A RUMINATION. BUT THEY ALL HAVE
- 00:48:31.080 --> 00:48:34.000
- BEGINNINGS, MIDDLES AND ENDS.
- 00:48:34.020 --> 00:48:36.110
- SO I LIKE IT WHEN THE BOX CLOSES AND GOES CLICK
- 00:48:36.130 --> 00:48:41.000
- AND IT ALL KIND OF COMES TOGETHER.
- 00:48:41.020 --> 00:48:42.250
- IT'S JUST SATISFYING.
- 00:48:42.270 --> 00:48:44.180
- BUT LOOK, I ALSO LIKE TO LOOK OUT AT AN AUDIENCE
- 00:48:44.200 --> 00:48:50.100
- AS I'M TELLING A TALE AND SEE PEOPLE NOD THEIR HEADS.
- 00:48:50.120 --> 00:48:53.120
- IT'S AFFIRMING, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE
- 00:48:53.140 --> 00:48:57.130
- SAY "I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN", YOU REALLY BELIEVE THEY
- 00:48:57.150 --> 00:48:59.280
- ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, SO IT'S JUST A
- 00:49:00.020 --> 00:49:04.050
- DELIGHTFUL GIVE AND TAKE AND THERE'S SO MANY WAYS
- 00:49:04.070 --> 00:49:06.170
- TO TELL STORIES TODAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT
- 00:49:06.190 --> 00:49:09.220
- WE'VE IMPROVED UPON ONCE UPON A TIME, YOU KNOW,
- 00:49:09.240 --> 00:49:13.230
- AND THE CLOSEST, THIS WHOLE PODCAST WORLD IS
- 00:49:13.250 --> 00:49:16.150
- INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE IT REMINDS ME OF OLD TIME
- 00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:20.160
- RADIO. OLD TIME RADIO IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT
- 00:49:20.180 --> 00:49:23.170
- REMINDS ME OF CAMP FIRES AND POEMS AND TALES.
- 00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:28.290
- - THEN WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY IT THIS WAY.
- 00:49:29.010 --> 00:49:33.000
- IF THERE WAS A TV SHOW CALLED
- 00:49:33.020 --> 00:49:36.040
- SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT...
- 00:49:36.060 --> 00:49:37.260
- - TELL ME MORE.
- 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.290
- - ...AND YOU WERE EXPLORING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE
- 00:49:40.010 --> 00:49:45.030
- ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING IN THEIR LIFE THAT THEY
- 00:49:45.050 --> 00:49:47.000
- JUST HAVE TO DO, COULD WE DO AN EPISODE ON
- 00:49:47.020 --> 00:49:50.100
- YOU AND YOUR WRITING?
- 00:49:50.120 --> 00:49:53.190
- - YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SHOW SOMEBODY'S GOTTA
- 00:49:53.210 --> 00:49:55.150
- DO IT THAT IS CURRENTLY ON TBN SATURDAY NIGHTS
- 00:49:55.170 --> 00:49:57.220
- HOSTED BY...
- 00:49:57.240 --> 00:49:59.010
- - YEAH. SO COULD WE DO AN EPISODE OF YOU BECAUSE
- 00:49:59.030 --> 00:50:02.280
- YOU HAVE TO WRITE?
- 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.230
- ARE YOU A CANDIDATE TO BE ON YOUR OWN SHOW,
- 00:50:04.250 --> 00:50:06.250
- SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT?
- 00:50:06.270 --> 00:50:08.100
- - NO. NOPE, I DON'T THINK I AM.
- 00:50:08.120 --> 00:50:10.250
- I DON'T THINK I COULD DO IT AND NOT COME OFF AS
- 00:50:10.270 --> 00:50:15.170
- FUNDAMENTALLY UNLIKABLE. [LAUGHTER]
- 00:50:15.190 --> 00:50:18.220
- I MEAN COME ON, TUNE IN SATURDAY NIGHT
- 00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:21.140
- 8:00 O'CLOCK AND GET A LOAD OF ME.
- 00:50:21.160 --> 00:50:24.000
- WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON ME THIS SATURDAY.
- 00:50:24.020 --> 00:50:25.260
- TAKE A BIG DIVE INTO LAKE MIKE. SWIM AROUND.
- 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.240
- - LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY, I REMEMBER AN
- 00:50:28.260 --> 00:50:31.170
- EPISODE WHERE YOU FOUND PEOPLE, I DON'T REMEMBER
- 00:50:31.190 --> 00:50:36.020
- WHAT STATE IT WAS, SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDWEST
- 00:50:36.040 --> 00:50:38.130
- THAT LOVE TO MAKE CREAMS, LOTIONS, SOAPS.
- 00:50:38.150 --> 00:50:42.140
- THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF GOURDS AND PUMPKINS.
- 00:50:42.160 --> 00:50:45.210
- - THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.
- 00:50:45.230 --> 00:50:47.010
- - SO YOU REMEMBER THAT. - VAGUELY, YEAH.
- 00:50:47.030 --> 00:50:49.010
- - SO USING THAT AS ANALOGY, COULD WE FOLLOW YOU--
- 00:50:49.030 --> 00:50:56.000
- THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION, OKAY?
- 00:50:56.020 --> 00:50:59.160
- COULD WE FOLLOW YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THAT
- 00:50:59.180 --> 00:51:02.230
- PERSON THAT LIKES TO WRITE THAT MUCH.
- 00:51:02.250 --> 00:51:05.180
- - IT'S HYPOTHETICAL? - YEAH.
- 00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:07.180
- - I WAS HOPING IT WAS RHETORICAL.
- 00:51:07.200 --> 00:51:10.020
- - I DON'T KNOW THE DEFINITION SO
- 00:51:10.040 --> 00:51:11.130
- YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN.
- 00:51:11.150 --> 00:51:13.040
- - HYPOTHETICAL MEANS IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
- 00:51:13.060 --> 00:51:15.100
- ASKED. RHETORICAL MEANS IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ANSWER.
- 00:51:15.120 --> 00:51:18.020
- THIS BEING AN INTERVIEW, I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT
- 00:51:18.040 --> 00:51:20.010
- SOME KIND OF ANSWER, SO I WOULD SIMPLY SAY IN THE
- 00:51:20.030 --> 00:51:22.180
- CONTEXT OF THE MEDIUM IN WHICH WE FIND OURSELVES
- 00:51:22.200 --> 00:51:25.290
- PRESENTLY, IE THE VISUAL MEDIUM, I DON'T KNOW THAT
- 00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:30.130
- WATCHING A MIDDLE AGED GUY WALK THROUGH LIFE
- 00:51:30.150 --> 00:51:33.090
- WRITING THINGS DOWN WILL INSPIRE PEOPLE AT HOME TO
- 00:51:33.110 --> 00:51:38.030
- YELL OUT SENTENCES LIKE HONEY GET IN HERE,
- 00:51:38.050 --> 00:51:41.200
- HE'S WRITING!
- 00:51:41.220 --> 00:51:43.180
- - BUT AGAIN, HYPOTHETICALLY, COULD YOU
- 00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:48.280
- BE THE GUY THAT WANTS TO SIT AND WRITE AND
- 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.230
- WE DO A SHOW ABOUT IT.
- 00:51:53.250 --> 00:51:55.100
- - YEAH. - OKAY.
- 00:51:55.120 --> 00:51:56.200
- - HYPOTHETICALLY, LISTEN, AND I MEAN THIS
- 00:51:56.220 --> 00:52:00.130
- WITH ALL MY HEART, WHETHER IT'S DIRTY JOBS--
- 00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:02.140
- - THE CLIMAX IS OVER.
- 00:52:02.160 --> 00:52:03.230
- YOU ALREADY SAID YEAH.
- 00:52:03.250 --> 00:52:05.140
- - I HIT OIL AND I'M STILL DRILLING, RIGHT?
- 00:52:05.160 --> 00:52:08.060
- ROOKIE MISTAKE!
- 00:52:08.080 --> 00:52:11.170
- WE'RE IN THE CLOSE NOW. THEY'RE PROBABLY ROLLING
- 00:52:11.190 --> 00:52:13.030
- CREDITS AND STUFF, RIGHT? SORRY.
- 00:52:13.050 --> 00:52:15.220
- - SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT WITH MIKE ROWE RIGHT HERE
- 00:52:15.240 --> 00:52:18.120
- ON TBN, THE BOOK "THE WAY I HEARD IT", MIKE ROWE,
- 00:52:18.140 --> 00:52:22.140
- RUNAWAY BEST SELLER NEW YORK TIMES.
- 00:52:22.160 --> 00:52:25.280
- - HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK IN?
- 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.090
- DO YOU LOOK HERE? THERE OR THERE?
- 00:52:27.110 --> 00:52:29.150
- I LOVE COMING ON THIS SHOW BUT I NEVER KNOW
- 00:52:29.170 --> 00:52:34.060
- WHERE TO LOOK. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK.
- 00:52:34.080 --> 00:52:38.000
- - SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS BOOK RIGHT NOW AS
- 00:52:38.020 --> 00:52:42.270
- WE'RE TALKING IS TOP TEN NEW YORK TIMES
- 00:52:42.290 --> 00:52:46.220
- BESTSELLING, IT'S ON ITS WAY TO NUMBER ONE.
- 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:48.270
- - WITH A BULLET.
- 00:52:48.290 --> 00:52:51.000
- - OKAY, ON IT'S WAY TO NUMBER ONE.
- 00:52:51.020 --> 00:52:52.290
- AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE
- 00:52:53.010 --> 00:52:57.150
- COMPLEXITY OF WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE.
- 00:52:57.170 --> 00:53:00.240
- AND NOW IF YOU'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION DURING
- 00:53:00.260 --> 00:53:03.080
- THIS INTERVIEW, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND IMMEDIATELY.
- 00:53:03.100 --> 00:53:06.020
- - OKAY.
- 00:53:06.040 --> 00:53:07.010
- - OKLAHOMA.
- 00:53:07.030 --> 00:53:08.120
- - [SINGING] WHERE THE WIND COMES SWEEPING DOWN
- 00:53:08.140 --> 00:53:09.250
- THE PLAIN, AND THE WAVING WHEAT CAN SURE SMELL
- 00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:12.110
- SWEET WHEN THE WIND COMES RIGHT BEHIND THE RAIN!
- 00:53:12.130 --> 00:53:15.160
- SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
- 00:53:15.180 --> 00:53:17.000
- [SINGING] OKLAHOMA EVERY NIGHT, MY HONEY LAMB AND I.
- 00:53:17.020 --> 00:53:21.190
- YOU KNOW, I MEAN I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SEEING
- 00:53:21.210 --> 00:53:24.120
- ME STANDING KNEE DEEP IN OTHER PEOPLE'S YOU KNOW
- 00:53:24.140 --> 00:53:27.270
- WHAT AND NOT RUSHING TO JUDGMENT.
- 00:53:27.290 --> 00:53:30.250
- I MEAN WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT YOU'RE FLICKING
- 00:53:30.270 --> 00:53:32.130
- AROUND AND YOU SEE ME IN A SEWER, AND THEN A
- 00:53:32.150 --> 00:53:34.170
- COUPLE YEARS LATER HERE WE ARE SITTING ON A STAGE
- 00:53:34.190 --> 00:53:37.190
- LIKE THIS HAVING A HIGH MINDED CONVERSATION.
- 00:53:37.210 --> 00:53:40.180
- - THEN YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THIS.
- 00:53:40.200 --> 00:53:42.140
- TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD.
- 00:53:42.160 --> 00:53:45.250
- - THAT'S NOT A MUSICAL.
- 00:53:45.270 --> 00:53:47.050
- [LAUGHING]
- 00:53:47.070 --> 00:53:49.010
- - YOU HAD ME FOR A MINUTE.
- 00:53:49.030 --> 00:53:50.150
- YOU HAD ME FOR A MINUTE!
- 00:53:50.170 --> 00:53:52.110
- THAT'S A GOOD! THAT WAS A GOOD ONE!
- 00:53:52.130 --> 00:53:54.200
- HOW DO I NOT KNOW A SONG FROM TO KILL A
- 00:53:54.220 --> 00:53:56.040
- MOCKINGBIRD, BUT THERE ARE NONE!
- 00:53:56.060 --> 00:53:57.240
- - THERE ARE NONE.
- 00:53:57.260 --> 00:53:59.190
- MIKE ROWE, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
- 00:53:59.210 --> 00:54:01.150
- [MUSIC]
- 00:54:01.170 --> 00:54:09.290