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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Robert & Debbie Morris.

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Praise | September 5, 2017

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  • - female announcer: Tonight
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  • from Los Angeles, California.
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  • - Matt Crouch: We're right here
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  • in Southern California, wow.
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  • Robert Morris and his wife,
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  • Debbie.
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  • What we're talking about
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  • is "Truly Free."
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  • - Robert Morris: If we know
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  • the truth, we can be truly free.
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  • Can a Christian open a door
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  • or window and a demon spirit
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  • actually come in?
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  • - Matt: Robert, seriously?
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  • - Robert: When you say "Jesus"
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  • demons have to leave.
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  • He can and will set you free
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  • right now.
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  • - Matt: That's our messaging.
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  • Deal with it.
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  • - Matt: I love it.
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  • The "Praise" program.
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  • We're right here in
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  • Southern California, wow.
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  • We have an audience, it feels
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  • like they actually wanna
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  • be here.
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  • That's awesome.
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  • And we have a guest that
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  • we know loves to be here.
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  • He is an amazing guy,
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  • Robert Morris.
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  • We're talking today,
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  • What do you mean by truly free?
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  • - Robert: What I mean is that
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  • Jesus said if we know the truth
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  • we can be truly free.
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  • But he made that statement to
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  • believers.
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  • And that's what we miss
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  • sometimes that we could be
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  • a believer and still have areas
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  • according to Jesus, we can be
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  • truly free.
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  • That's what I mean by that.
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  • - Matt: So we oftentimes just
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  • take that as a kind of
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  • evangelistic statement, you
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  • know, "Whom the Son has made
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  • free is free indeed," those kind
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  • of, you know, and those types of
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  • statements.
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  • And you're talking about us.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, yeah, I'm
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  • talking about that every one of
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  • us, every believer, we can look
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  • at areas of our life where we
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  • have great victory and then we
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  • can look at other areas where we
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  • struggle and maybe someone else
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  • doesn't struggle in that area
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  • but we struggle.
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  • But according to Jesus, we can
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  • be truly free, free indeed, in
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  • every area of our life and I'm
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  • talking about how Satan and the
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  • demonic forces actually can gain
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  • ground in a Christian's life and
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  • hold us bondage in that area.
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  • And sometimes, we don't get free
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  • because we don't call it what it
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  • is and we don't know how to get
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  • free from that supernatural
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  • power that's holding us in
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  • bondage.
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  • - Matt: I heard a minister one
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  • time talk about that Scripture
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  • and they broke it down into the
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  • language, you know, the Hebrew,
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  • and it was that the word
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  • "indeed" there and you're a
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  • doctor of theology so I'm gonna
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  • be careful and go ahead--go
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  • ahead and correct me if you need
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  • to but that word "indeed" there
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  • could be translated that the
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  • freedom not bondage.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, yeah, that's
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  • a great point and it is true.
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  • The other thing about that
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  • is--let me go--we'll back up
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  • a little bit here.
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  • Jesus, it's said, said--we're
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  • talking about John 8:32: "You
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  • shall know the truth and the
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  • truth shall make you free."
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  • But verse 31's
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  • very important and it says:
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  • "Then Jesus said to those
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  • Jews who believed in him."
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  • So not only were they Jewish and
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  • believed in the God of Abraham,
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  • Isaac, and Jacob, they believed
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  • in Jesus.
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  • They were believers.
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  • truth, you're my disciples
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  • indeed and you," so that you is
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  • referring back to the word
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  • "disciples," "and you disciples
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  • will know the truth and
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  • the truth will make you free."
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  • Here's the--it's hilarious.
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  • So see, I got tickled there
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  • because I know what's coming.
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  • They said, "Well, what do you
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  • mean, we'll be made free?
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  • We're Abraham's descendants,
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  • have never been in bondage
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  • to anyone."
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  • Now, I want you to
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  • think about that.
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  • We are Abraham's--I want
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  • everyone in the audience to
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  • think about this.
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  • "We are Abraham's descendants
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  • and have never been in bondage
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  • to anyone."
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  • Have you ever read
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  • the Bible?
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  • They have been in bondage
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  • to everyone.
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  • They've been in bondage to
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  • the Egyptians, the Chaldeans,
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  • the Grecians, the Babylonians,
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  • the Assyrians and when they made
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  • the statement, when they made
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  • the statement, they were
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  • in bondage to the Romans.
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  • And they said, "We've never been
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  • in bondage to anyone."
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  • And so Jesus said, "Well,
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  • let me make it clear."
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  • That's in essence, what he said.
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  • "Whoever commits sin is
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  • a slave of sin.
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  • Whoever commits sin's
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  • in bondage."
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  • Now, we think, "Well,
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  • then I'm in bondage 'cause I
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  • fall," but you've got to go back
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  • to now the word "commit."
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  • Think about the word "commit."
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  • Think about now "committed."
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  • So whoever's committed
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  • to continuing in a sin,
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  • he's in bondage.
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  • He's in bondage.
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  • So that's what I mean is that
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  • there's an area of your life
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  • that you've said over and over
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  • and over again, "God, I'm so
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  • sorry, I'll never do it again.
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  • I'll never do it again.
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  • I'll never do it again."
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  • But did you at some point
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  • open a door to
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  • the demonic and now there's
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  • a spirit holding you in bondage
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  • even though you're a believer
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  • that we need to go back and
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  • close that door to the demonic?
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  • So I want to talk about today
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  • can a Christian be under the
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  • influence of a demonic spirit?
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  • That's what I want to--that's
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  • what we really cover
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  • in the book.
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  • - Laurie Crouch: I think
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  • - Laurie Crouch: I think
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  • - Robert: She doesn't have any
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  • example in mind, yeah, ha, ha.
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  • - Matt: So basically,
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  • what we're talking about is
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  • "Truly Free."
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  • We're gonna get deeply
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  • into the subject and this is
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  • kind of deep water.
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  • Let's just for a moment, because
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  • it's September 5, happy Labor
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  • Day weekend just passed, Texas
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  • is going through kind of a
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  • nightmare, the whole
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  • Gulf region.
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  • You're a Texan.
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  • You just flew in from Texas and
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  • so you maybe have a little bit
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  • better perspective.
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  • Just your thoughts on the folks
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  • that are suffering down
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  • there still.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, yeah,
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  • it's horrible.
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  • It breaks our heart.
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  • And we've seen the videos from
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  • friends of ours who are pastors.
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  • You know, there's the secondary
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  • issue and that's loss of
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  • structures, buildings, houses,
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  • church sanctuaries.
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  • I've seen sanctuaries of friends
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  • of mine completely flooded.
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  • And the reason I say that's
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  • secondary is 'cause the first
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  • thing are people.
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  • People have lost their lives.
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  • They lost their lives
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  • in this flood.
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  • They've lost their families.
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  • I just talked yesterday with
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  • a friend of mine that his--that
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  • someone in his office he works
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  • with is flying down there
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  • because a friend of hers,
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  • a single mom, two children, just
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  • moved from California to Houston
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  • and they haven't heard from her
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  • now since then.
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  • So we don't know but presume she
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  • may have lost her life with two
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  • small children.
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  • So we--they need our prayers,
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  • they need our help, they need
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  • our resources.
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  • They need volunteers.
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  • We've sent volunteers
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  • the next day.
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  • We had people immediately
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  • say, "We can go."
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  • Medical teams,
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  • construction teams.
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  • We sent funds to churches, just
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  • like TBN is sending funds to
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  • help so it's a situation that is
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  • a horrible tragedy that--what's
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  • wonderful is, though, even in
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  • the midst of the difficulties of
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  • our nation right now, we all
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  • come together and say,
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  • "Let's help.
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  • These are people that are
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  • hurting right now.
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  • We need to help."
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  • - Matt: We are certainly
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  • involved in deploying funds and
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  • we did a program last week that
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  • we announced that Trinity is
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  • sending $100.000 to Samaritan's
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  • Purse and to Lakewood Church
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  • Church Unlimited.
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  • But more importantly, we're
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  • putting the 800-number on the
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  • screen for Samaritan's Purse.
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  • Look, I have a pick-up truck out
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  • here in the back yard and I
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  • could probably rent a tractor
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  • trailer and we could--but, look,
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  • I'm not any good at that.
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  • I'm, you know, logistics are,
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  • you know, not what I'm good at
  • 00:08:29.140 --> 00:08:30.190
  • or, you know, that--we have
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  • no expertise.
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  • So what Trinity is doing is
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  • exposing the 800-number
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  • for Samaritan's Purse because
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  • they know how to do that.
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  • There's no sense in us getting
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  • down there, getting in
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  • somebody's way, trying
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  • to do something.
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  • So Samaritan's Purse
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  • is on the ground.
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  • They're basing out of
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  • very strategic things.
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  • A few days ago we saw that the
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  • vice president made a trip down
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  • and was right on the place where
  • 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:55.140
  • Samaritan's Purse is basing, and
  • 00:08:55.140 --> 00:08:57.160
  • they're in Victoria, Texas, and
  • 00:08:57.160 --> 00:08:59.090
  • Pastor Jim Graff's church.
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  • So, look, we're just staying out
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  • of everybody's way and putting
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  • their number on the screen.
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  • We encourage you viewers that,
  • 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.130
  • you know, we're not trying to
  • 00:09:08.130 --> 00:09:10.020
  • get in the middle of that.
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  • We want Samaritan's Purse
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  • to do that.
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  • And Franklin Graham does a great
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  • job of that and that's how we're
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  • handling it.
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  • So make a donation to
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  • Samaritan's Purse
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  • and let's help.
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  • We want you to do that.
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  • Robert Morris airs right here
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  • on Trinity every day.
  • 00:09:26.110 --> 00:09:28.130
  • We are sometimes kind of
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  • introducing him to some people.
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  • He's got this monstrous church
  • 00:09:35.020 --> 00:09:37.190
  • there in Texas and 39.000 active
  • 00:09:37.220 --> 00:09:40.220
  • members there at Gateway Church.
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  • Laurie and I were there last
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  • weekend and we got to watch you
  • 00:09:45.070 --> 00:09:48.070
  • on a screen.
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  • So it's nice to have you
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  • physically here, yeah, so it's
  • 00:09:50.150 --> 00:09:52.030
  • And if we're introducing him, if
  • 00:09:54.100 --> 00:09:56.280
  • you don't know Robert very well,
  • 00:09:56.280 --> 00:09:59.190
  • take a look at this little bio
  • 00:09:59.190 --> 00:10:00.200
  • piece we put together.
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  • Watch this.
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  • - announcer: If you really want
  • 00:10:03.160 --> 00:10:04.260
  • to learn how to live the blessed
  • 00:10:04.260 --> 00:10:06.060
  • life, Robert Morris
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  • has the answer.
  • 00:10:07.110 --> 00:10:08.030
  • A gifted communicator with more
  • 00:10:08.030 --> 00:10:10.030
  • than 20 years of biblical
  • 00:10:10.030 --> 00:10:11.260
  • teaching, Morris reaches
  • 00:10:11.260 --> 00:10:13.000
  • believers and the unchurched
  • 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:14.140
  • with his passionate, practical,
  • 00:10:14.140 --> 00:10:16.060
  • and often humorous presentation.
  • 00:10:16.060 --> 00:10:18.050
  • As founding senior pastor of
  • 00:10:18.050 --> 00:10:20.030
  • Gateway Church in Dallas, Texas,
  • 00:10:20.030 --> 00:10:21.240
  • Morris has seen exponential
  • 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:23.080
  • growth since the inception of
  • 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.030
  • his multi-campus church.
  • 00:10:25.030 --> 00:10:26.050
  • From its humble beginnings in
  • 00:10:26.050 --> 00:10:28.000
  • 2000, the church has grown to
  • 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.250
  • more than 39.000 active members.
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  • Morris is featured on the daily
  • 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.040
  • television program, "The Blessed
  • 00:10:34.040 --> 00:10:35.150
  • Life," and serves as chairman of
  • 00:10:35.150 --> 00:10:37.100
  • the board of The King's
  • 00:10:37.100 --> 00:10:38.280
  • University.
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  • He's the bestselling author of
  • 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:40.220
  • 14 books, including "The Blessed
  • 00:10:40.220 --> 00:10:43.020
  • Life," "The God I Never
  • 00:10:43.020 --> 00:10:44.120
  • Knew," and "Frequency."
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  • Knew," and "Frequency."
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  • [a
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  • [app
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  • [appla
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  • [applaud
  • 00:10:51.040 --> 00:10:51.050
  • [applaudin
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  • - Matt: I love it.
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  • I promised Debbie that we
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  • wouldn't have her singing solos
  • 00:11:01.160 --> 00:11:03.090
  • or anything like that.
  • 00:11:03.090 --> 00:11:04.280
  • I'd just kinda--so anytime you
  • 00:11:04.280 --> 00:11:06.020
  • have something to say, jump in
  • 00:11:06.090 --> 00:11:09.090
  • at any time.
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  • Correct him as necessary.
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  • - Debbie Morris: I'll tell
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  • my deliverance story.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, I was delivered
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  • from drugs at 19.
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  • She was delivered from bubblegum
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  • at 9.
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  • - Matt: Yeah, got it.
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  • Yeah, that's kind of Laurie and
  • 00:11:23.290 --> 00:11:25.090
  • her walked that same path, yeah.
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  • "Truly Free" is what we're
  • 00:11:27.110 --> 00:11:28.120
  • talking about.
  • 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:29.130
  • Robert Morris and, by the way, I
  • 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.240
  • just want you to know that, yes,
  • 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:36.020
  • we're talking about "Truly
  • 00:11:36.020 --> 00:11:37.030
  • Free," but your "Blessed Life"
  • 00:11:37.030 --> 00:11:39.190
  • and that series and your
  • 00:11:39.190 --> 00:11:41.280
  • "Frequency" series that's
  • 00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:43.170
  • running on Trinity, let me
  • 00:11:43.170 --> 00:11:45.180
  • just--let me just tell you this.
  • 00:11:45.180 --> 00:11:47.150
  • When Robert is on TBN I stop and
  • 00:11:47.190 --> 00:11:50.190
  • I watch.
  • 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:51.100
  • And I mean, it--I can't tell you
  • 00:11:52.110 --> 00:11:55.110
  • how practical Robert breaks
  • 00:11:55.110 --> 00:11:58.020
  • everything down.
  • 00:11:58.020 --> 00:11:59.140
  • It's unbelievable.
  • 00:11:59.140 --> 00:12:00.210
  • We have abolished, okay, several
  • 00:12:01.210 --> 00:12:04.210
  • things around here.
  • 00:12:04.210 --> 00:12:06.010
  • We don't do telethons anymore,
  • 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:08.090
  • and we don't have the type of
  • 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.200
  • preaching about giving to get.
  • 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:15.100
  • We don't give to get anymore.
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  • That's over, okay,
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  • I'm just telling you.
  • 00:12:18.210 --> 00:12:20.070
  • And Robert explains that.
  • 00:12:20.070 --> 00:12:22.010
  • So before we get back into
  • 00:12:22.010 --> 00:12:23.170
  • "Truly Free," and demons and all
  • 00:12:23.170 --> 00:12:25.160
  • that kind of stuff that we're
  • 00:12:25.160 --> 00:12:26.220
  • gonna talk about, just give
  • 00:12:26.220 --> 00:12:28.130
  • the 90-second version of
  • 00:12:28.130 --> 00:12:30.140
  • "The Blessed Life" and what
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  • you get to explain it to us.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, well, God does
  • 00:12:35.260 --> 00:12:37.100
  • reward us for giving and what
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  • happened, I think, many times
  • 00:12:40.270 --> 00:12:42.030
  • with the give-to-get message is
  • 00:12:42.030 --> 00:12:43.260
  • that we begin as pastors and
  • 00:12:43.260 --> 00:12:45.270
  • preachers to teach too much on
  • 00:12:45.270 --> 00:12:48.040
  • the reward part.
  • 00:12:48.040 --> 00:12:49.100
  • And instead of the motive part.
  • 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:51.170
  • And God wanted to change our
  • 00:12:51.170 --> 00:12:52.230
  • hearts.
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  • It's like with our kids, we want
  • 00:12:53.100 --> 00:12:54.120
  • to teach them to share.
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  • We want to teach them
  • 00:12:55.290 --> 00:12:56.230
  • to be generous.
  • 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:57.200
  • he says, "Listen, I'll give you
  • 00:12:59.220 --> 00:13:00.280
  • a reward if you're generous."
  • 00:13:00.280 --> 00:13:02.190
  • So all of a sudden, everybody
  • 00:13:02.190 --> 00:13:04.030
  • was, "If you give, you get.
  • 00:13:04.030 --> 00:13:05.290
  • If you give, you get."
  • 00:13:05.290 --> 00:13:07.080
  • And our hearts began to be,
  • 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.150
  • "Well, I want to get."
  • 00:13:09.150 --> 00:13:11.050
  • Well, God didn't create
  • 00:13:11.050 --> 00:13:12.200
  • giving to work greed and
  • 00:13:13.050 --> 00:13:16.050
  • selfishness into our lives.
  • 00:13:16.050 --> 00:13:18.000
  • He created giving to work
  • 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.010
  • greed and selfishness
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  • out of our lives.
  • 00:13:21.040 --> 00:13:22.120
  • So we say it this way.
  • 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:23.160
  • We don't give to get,
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  • we get to give.
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  • And God blesses us
  • 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:28.110
  • when we do that.
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  • - Matt: Beautiful.
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  • Okay, so just in case somebody
  • 00:13:31.170 --> 00:13:34.170
  • has taken this segment of the
  • 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:36.060
  • broadcast and put it on YouTube,
  • 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:38.040
  • I just wanna make sure you
  • 00:13:38.040 --> 00:13:39.040
  • understand that's what we're
  • 00:13:39.040 --> 00:13:41.070
  • about here.
  • 00:13:41.070 --> 00:13:42.190
  • We're about a message of we get
  • 00:13:42.190 --> 00:13:44.290
  • to give and that's what we do.
  • 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.000
  • That's our messaging, okay,
  • 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.030
  • deal with it, all right.
  • 00:13:50.030 --> 00:13:51.060
  • Now, "Truly Free."
  • 00:13:51.060 --> 00:13:53.060
  • So those people that are needing
  • 00:13:53.060 --> 00:13:55.230
  • this message is basically
  • 00:13:55.230 --> 00:13:58.010
  • all of us.
  • 00:13:58.010 --> 00:13:59.100
  • So there isn't anybody that
  • 00:13:59.100 --> 00:14:01.220
  • this message doesn't mean
  • 00:14:01.220 --> 00:14:03.150
  • something to.
  • 00:14:03.150 --> 00:14:05.010
  • Please, sir, wear us out
  • 00:14:05.010 --> 00:14:07.160
  • for the next 1 hour.
  • 00:14:07.160 --> 00:14:09.020
  • - Robert: Okay, well, I'm going
  • 00:14:09.020 --> 00:14:10.020
  • to start with--I'm going to jump
  • 00:14:10.020 --> 00:14:11.290
  • right in the deep end, okay,
  • 00:14:11.290 --> 00:14:13.090
  • if that's all right, with
  • 00:14:13.090 --> 00:14:14.080
  • the word "demon-possessed."
  • 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.080
  • Because we've completely
  • 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:17.020
  • misunderstood that
  • 00:14:17.020 --> 00:14:19.080
  • word from--in our English
  • 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.040
  • language because of our only
  • 00:14:21.040 --> 00:14:22.270
  • definition of possession.
  • 00:14:22.270 --> 00:14:25.060
  • But in the Greek, there are two
  • 00:14:25.060 --> 00:14:27.230
  • words for possession.
  • 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:29.010
  • And so the words
  • 00:14:29.010 --> 00:14:31.050
  • "demon-possessed" are in the
  • 00:14:31.050 --> 00:14:33.160
  • Greek daimonizomai.
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  • Daimoni, you can figure out,
  • 00:14:35.190 --> 00:14:37.070
  • means demon.
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  • Zomai, possession.
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  • But it's not the word for
  • 00:14:40.280 --> 00:14:42.070
  • ownership, and we'll all be able
  • 00:14:42.070 --> 00:14:44.100
  • to relate to this in
  • 00:14:44.100 --> 00:14:44.260
  • just a moment.
  • 00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:46.180
  • "under the influence"
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  • or "under the control of."
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  • That's what it means.
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  • It doesn't mean ownership.
  • 00:14:52.190 --> 00:14:53.280
  • So can a Christian be
  • 00:14:53.280 --> 00:14:55.190
  • demon-possessed
  • 00:14:55.190 --> 00:14:57.280
  • or owned by a demon?
  • 00:14:57.280 --> 00:14:59.250
  • Can a Christian be owned
  • 00:14:59.250 --> 00:15:01.010
  • by a demon?
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  • Of course not.
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  • We're bought with a price.
  • 00:15:02.170 --> 00:15:03.220
  • We belong to Jesus.
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  • We're under the blood.
  • 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:06.250
  • God owns us.
  • 00:15:06.250 --> 00:15:08.180
  • The world is the Lord's and
  • 00:15:08.180 --> 00:15:10.230
  • the people that dwell therein.
  • 00:15:10.230 --> 00:15:12.080
  • So we're owned by God.
  • 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:13.060
  • But can a Christian be under
  • 00:15:13.060 --> 00:15:15.120
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:15:19.090 --> 00:15:20.210
  • And that word again, see, that
  • 00:15:20.210 --> 00:15:22.180
  • word is used another time--
  • 00:15:22.180 --> 00:15:24.000
  • the root of the word,
  • 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:25.200
  • I should say to be correct.
  • 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.230
  • When Jesus said, talking about
  • 00:15:26.230 --> 00:15:28.220
  • the end times, "In your
  • 00:15:28.220 --> 00:15:29.250
  • patience, possess your souls."
  • 00:15:30.170 --> 00:15:33.170
  • Okay, that's the root of
  • 00:15:33.170 --> 00:15:34.170
  • that word "zomai."
  • 00:15:34.170 --> 00:15:35.130
  • So he's not saying,
  • 00:15:35.130 --> 00:15:36.220
  • "own your souls,"
  • 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:37.160
  • because he tells us,
  • 00:15:37.160 --> 00:15:38.110
  • "If you keep your soul,
  • 00:15:38.110 --> 00:15:39.060
  • you're going to lose it.
  • 00:15:39.060 --> 00:15:40.110
  • But if you lose it for my sake,
  • 00:15:40.110 --> 00:15:41.200
  • then you'll gain in the end."
  • 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:42.270
  • So he's not telling us
  • 00:15:42.270 --> 00:15:43.200
  • to own it.
  • 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:44.170
  • He's telling us to control it.
  • 00:15:44.170 --> 00:15:46.200
  • Now, in these end--in the end
  • 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.000
  • times, you need to control your
  • 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:49.220
  • mind, your thoughts.
  • 00:15:49.220 --> 00:15:51.190
  • You need to control your
  • 00:15:51.190 --> 00:15:52.130
  • emotions.
  • 00:15:52.130 --> 00:15:53.070
  • You need to control your
  • 00:15:53.070 --> 00:15:54.060
  • decisions, your will.
  • 00:15:54.060 --> 00:15:55.170
  • So that's what it means.
  • 00:15:55.170 --> 00:15:56.250
  • So let me give you a couple of
  • 00:15:56.250 --> 00:15:57.230
  • illustrations to illustrate it.
  • 00:15:57.230 --> 00:15:59.210
  • Let's say that on the way to
  • 00:16:00.230 --> 00:16:03.230
  • talk with us today, you
  • 00:16:03.230 --> 00:16:05.090
  • accidentally left the door of
  • 00:16:05.090 --> 00:16:07.050
  • your house or a window open or
  • 00:16:07.050 --> 00:16:09.160
  • something and for--and this
  • 00:16:09.160 --> 00:16:11.090
  • is for anyone watching.
  • 00:16:11.090 --> 00:16:12.140
  • And you get home and there's
  • 00:16:12.140 --> 00:16:14.110
  • a thief in your house.
  • 00:16:14.110 --> 00:16:16.000
  • Okay, does he own your house?
  • 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.070
  • No, but he's in control of it.
  • 00:16:18.070 --> 00:16:20.150
  • While you're not there,
  • 00:16:20.150 --> 00:16:21.060
  • he's in control.
  • 00:16:21.060 --> 00:16:22.080
  • And he's in.
  • 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:24.130
  • Here's the thing.
  • 00:16:24.130 --> 00:16:25.140
  • He's in.
  • 00:16:25.140 --> 00:16:26.210
  • He is in your house.
  • 00:16:26.210 --> 00:16:28.070
  • He's not just--he's in it.
  • 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:29.260
  • Now, you need to--you need to
  • 00:16:29.260 --> 00:16:31.160
  • call the police and get him out,
  • 00:16:31.160 --> 00:16:33.060
  • you know, but he's in.
  • 00:16:33.060 --> 00:16:34.120
  • He came in through a window or
  • 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:36.150
  • a door so Jesus tells us about
  • 00:16:36.150 --> 00:16:39.010
  • the thief, John 10.
  • 00:16:39.010 --> 00:16:40.160
  • And he says, "I'm the door
  • 00:16:40.160 --> 00:16:42.080
  • and the thief can't come
  • 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.060
  • in through the door."
  • 00:16:43.060 --> 00:16:44.120
  • So he'll look, though,
  • 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.010
  • for some other way.
  • 00:16:46.070 --> 00:16:49.070
  • He'll look for another way in.
  • 00:16:49.070 --> 00:16:51.090
  • So here I'm--I love the Lord,
  • 00:16:51.090 --> 00:16:53.070
  • I read my Bible,
  • 00:16:53.070 --> 00:16:54.120
  • pray and all that.
  • 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:55.110
  • But what if, as a Christian,
  • 00:16:55.110 --> 00:16:57.250
  • a person starts looking at
  • 00:16:57.250 --> 00:16:59.270
  • pornography on the Internet?
  • 00:16:59.270 --> 00:17:01.220
  • Well, that's some other way,
  • 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:04.020
  • see?
  • 00:17:04.020 --> 00:17:04.220
  • I mean, here's a Christian and
  • 00:17:04.220 --> 00:17:06.180
  • all of a sudden he begins
  • 00:17:06.180 --> 00:17:07.170
  • to--he's opening a door that God
  • 00:17:07.170 --> 00:17:09.140
  • didn't intend him--for him to
  • 00:17:09.140 --> 00:17:10.140
  • open to the enemy.
  • 00:17:10.140 --> 00:17:11.150
  • He's literally opening a door
  • 00:17:11.150 --> 00:17:12.250
  • to the thief and saying,
  • 00:17:12.250 --> 00:17:14.050
  • "Come on in."
  • 00:17:14.050 --> 00:17:14.250
  • And that guy may end up
  • 00:17:14.250 --> 00:17:17.150
  • doing something then because of
  • 00:17:17.150 --> 00:17:19.100
  • an addiction to pornography,
  • 00:17:19.100 --> 00:17:20.230
  • which then becomes compounded by
  • 00:17:20.230 --> 00:17:23.020
  • a spirit of lust, pornography,
  • 00:17:23.030 --> 00:17:26.030
  • all sorts of sexual immorality.
  • 00:17:26.030 --> 00:17:29.010
  • And so he ends up doing
  • 00:17:29.010 --> 00:17:30.270
  • something now that he wouldn't
  • 00:17:30.270 --> 00:17:32.040
  • normally do, he's ashamed of,
  • 00:17:32.040 --> 00:17:34.250
  • but he opened the door to
  • 00:17:34.250 --> 00:17:36.010
  • the thief.
  • 00:17:36.010 --> 00:17:36.250
  • So one other illustration.
  • 00:17:37.090 --> 00:17:40.090
  • Let's say a person drinks too
  • 00:17:40.090 --> 00:17:41.190
  • much alcohol and he becomes
  • 00:17:41.190 --> 00:17:43.240
  • under the influence, or is even
  • 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.090
  • a DUI, a driving under
  • 00:17:45.090 --> 00:17:46.250
  • the influence.
  • 00:17:46.250 --> 00:17:47.270
  • Under the influence of too much
  • 00:17:47.270 --> 00:17:49.150
  • alcohol.
  • 00:17:49.150 --> 00:17:51.010
  • What we do sometimes is we say,
  • 00:17:51.010 --> 00:17:52.190
  • "Well, but if a Christian does
  • 00:17:52.190 --> 00:17:55.040
  • this, he's covered by the blood,
  • 00:17:55.040 --> 00:17:56.140
  • he's safe."
  • 00:17:56.140 --> 00:17:57.190
  • Well, if a Christian drinks
  • 00:17:57.190 --> 00:17:59.180
  • too much, he gets drunk too.
  • 00:17:59.180 --> 00:18:01.090
  • If a non-Christian drinks too
  • 00:18:01.090 --> 00:18:02.170
  • much, he gets drunk, okay?
  • 00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:03.230
  • So the Christian then may end up
  • 00:18:03.230 --> 00:18:05.040
  • doing something totally out of
  • 00:18:05.040 --> 00:18:06.130
  • character, hurts himself, hurts
  • 00:18:06.130 --> 00:18:08.180
  • his family, while he's under
  • 00:18:08.180 --> 00:18:10.070
  • the influence.
  • 00:18:10.070 --> 00:18:12.150
  • It's the same thing.
  • 00:18:12.150 --> 00:18:13.090
  • That's what I'm trying to say.
  • 00:18:13.090 --> 00:18:14.220
  • Let's forget about the
  • 00:18:14.220 --> 00:18:15.160
  • demon-possession word, like,
  • 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.090
  • "Well, a Christian
  • 00:18:18.090 --> 00:18:18.290
  • can't be owned by a demon."
  • 00:18:18.290 --> 00:18:20.000
  • That is correct.
  • 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:20.200
  • That is correct.
  • 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.230
  • But can a Christian be under the
  • 00:18:22.230 --> 00:18:24.070
  • influence of a demonic spirit?
  • 00:18:24.070 --> 00:18:26.040
  • Can a Christian open a door or
  • 00:18:26.040 --> 00:18:27.160
  • window and a demon spirit
  • 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:29.200
  • actually come in?
  • 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:30.150
  • And I got to say one thing.
  • 00:18:30.150 --> 00:18:32.110
  • The big thing is deliverance or
  • 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:35.200
  • discipleship.
  • 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:36.200
  • There are two camps in the body
  • 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:37.260
  • of Christ, in essence.
  • 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:39.100
  • People need deliverance.
  • 00:18:39.100 --> 00:18:40.220
  • All we need do is cast a demon
  • 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:41.290
  • out of you, you'll be okay.
  • 00:18:41.290 --> 00:18:43.090
  • You'll never have a problem in
  • 00:18:43.090 --> 00:18:44.100
  • this area again.
  • 00:18:44.100 --> 00:18:45.170
  • Then other camps say, "No, you
  • 00:18:45.170 --> 00:18:46.290
  • need discipleship.
  • 00:18:46.290 --> 00:18:48.030
  • You know, that deliverance
  • 00:18:48.030 --> 00:18:49.070
  • stuff, that ended with Jesus.
  • 00:18:49.070 --> 00:18:51.020
  • He cast demons out but you need
  • 00:18:51.020 --> 00:18:52.190
  • discipleship."
  • 00:18:52.190 --> 00:18:53.190
  • Okay, so does a Christian need
  • 00:18:53.190 --> 00:18:54.240
  • deliverance or discipleship?
  • 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.080
  • Yes.
  • 00:18:56.080 --> 00:18:58.200
  • Yes, Christians--Jesus told the
  • 00:18:59.040 --> 00:19:02.060
  • disciples, "You do three things.
  • 00:19:02.060 --> 00:19:05.000
  • You preach the gospel, you heal
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.240
  • the sick, you cast out demons."
  • 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.200
  • Okay, Christians need
  • 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:09.220
  • to be healed sometimes.
  • 00:19:09.220 --> 00:19:11.020
  • They can be sick.
  • 00:19:11.020 --> 00:19:13.280
  • They need to be delivered
  • 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:15.040
  • sometimes.
  • 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:16.110
  • And then my--the reason I'm
  • 00:19:16.110 --> 00:19:17.220
  • bringing this out is if we don't
  • 00:19:17.220 --> 00:19:20.010
  • think the demonic is involved,
  • 00:19:20.010 --> 00:19:21.220
  • then we won't deal
  • 00:19:21.220 --> 00:19:22.150
  • with the demonic.
  • 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:23.250
  • So we need to do both.
  • 00:19:23.250 --> 00:19:25.030
  • We need to cast demons out of
  • 00:19:25.030 --> 00:19:26.140
  • people and we need to disciple
  • 00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:29.100
  • them in the Word.
  • 00:19:29.100 --> 00:19:31.060
  • them in the Word.
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  • [a
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  • [aud
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  • [audie
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  • [audienc
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  • [audience
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  • [audience ap
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  • [audience appl
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  • [audience applau
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  • [audience applaudi
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  • [audience applauding
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  • - Matt: We have jumped squarely
  • 00:19:37.170 --> 00:19:40.170
  • into the deep end of this pool,
  • 00:19:40.170 --> 00:19:43.030
  • in "Truly Free."
  • 00:19:43.070 --> 00:19:46.070
  • And continue, sir.
  • 00:19:46.070 --> 00:19:47.160
  • Where do we need to go next?
  • 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:48.260
  • What else do we need to know?
  • 00:19:48.260 --> 00:19:51.090
  • - Robert: So let me continue on
  • 00:19:51.090 --> 00:19:52.190
  • the deliverance or discipleship
  • 00:19:52.190 --> 00:19:53.140
  • with just one statement from
  • 00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:54.270
  • Pastor Jack Hayford who's been
  • 00:19:54.270 --> 00:19:56.150
  • teaching this long before, you
  • 00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:58.130
  • know, we were.
  • 00:19:58.130 --> 00:19:59.080
  • And, of course, he was your
  • 00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:00.220
  • parents' pastor.
  • 00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:01.270
  • - Matt: Correct.
  • 00:20:01.270 --> 00:20:02.170
  • - Robert: A great man of God.
  • 00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:04.040
  • Still alive, 83.
  • 00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:05.260
  • Lost his wife, Anna, of 62 years
  • 00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:08.120
  • of marriage this past year.
  • 00:20:08.120 --> 00:20:10.140
  • And she was wonderful and she's
  • 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:11.230
  • actually what made Jack Hayford
  • 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:13.130
  • who he was and Jack'll say that.
  • 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:15.030
  • So wonderful, we loved her very
  • 00:20:15.030 --> 00:20:17.020
  • much, so.
  • 00:20:17.020 --> 00:20:17.280
  • But here's what Jack says about
  • 00:20:17.280 --> 00:20:19.030
  • deliverance or discipleship:
  • 00:20:19.030 --> 00:20:21.000
  • "You can't disciple a demon and
  • 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.020
  • you can't cast out the flesh."
  • 00:20:23.020 --> 00:20:25.130
  • - Matt: Wow.
  • 00:20:25.130 --> 00:20:27.040
  • - Robert: What a statement.
  • 00:20:27.040 --> 00:20:28.060
  • You can't disciple a demon.
  • 00:20:28.060 --> 00:20:30.030
  • You've got to cast him out.
  • 00:20:30.030 --> 00:20:31.160
  • And you can't cast out
  • 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.110
  • the flesh, you've got to
  • 00:20:33.110 --> 00:20:34.140
  • have discipleship.
  • 00:20:34.140 --> 00:20:35.290
  • So that's the balance.
  • 00:20:35.290 --> 00:20:36.280
  • So what's the open door?
  • 00:20:36.280 --> 00:20:39.210
  • So I name several things in the
  • 00:20:39.210 --> 00:20:41.180
  • book, obviously, but let me just
  • 00:20:41.180 --> 00:20:43.000
  • do three that are kind of easy
  • 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:44.130
  • to remember.
  • 00:20:44.130 --> 00:20:46.070
  • You've--you guys have heard my
  • 00:20:46.070 --> 00:20:47.060
  • sermons, and normally I always
  • 00:20:47.060 --> 00:20:48.130
  • have three points.
  • 00:20:48.130 --> 00:20:49.210
  • That's for people like Matt in
  • 00:20:49.210 --> 00:20:51.140
  • the audience that can actually
  • 00:20:51.140 --> 00:20:53.160
  • remember they had a sermon.
  • 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:54.230
  • Okay, I got three points.
  • 00:20:54.230 --> 00:20:55.170
  • And they start with the same
  • 00:20:55.170 --> 00:20:56.180
  • letter, so it helps me too.
  • 00:20:56.180 --> 00:20:58.060
  • So okay,
  • 00:20:58.060 --> 00:20:59.250
  • so what are some things?
  • 00:20:59.250 --> 00:21:01.190
  • One is continued iniquity.
  • 00:21:01.190 --> 00:21:04.100
  • Not just sin, not just making
  • 00:21:04.100 --> 00:21:06.060
  • a mistake.
  • 00:21:06.060 --> 00:21:06.260
  • Continued iniquity.
  • 00:21:06.260 --> 00:21:08.140
  • That's the John 8 passage.
  • 00:21:08.140 --> 00:21:09.260
  • He said if you continue in sin,
  • 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:11.110
  • you're in bondage.
  • 00:21:11.110 --> 00:21:12.220
  • - Laurie: That you know what
  • 00:21:12.220 --> 00:21:13.160
  • you're doing.
  • 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.060
  • - Robert: You know what you're
  • 00:21:14.060 --> 00:21:14.280
  • doing, yeah.
  • 00:21:14.280 --> 00:21:16.040
  • And sometimes, you feel like you
  • 00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:18.260
  • feel powerless.
  • 00:21:18.260 --> 00:21:19.280
  • Well, that ought to tell you
  • 00:21:19.280 --> 00:21:21.070
  • there's something at work there
  • 00:21:21.070 --> 00:21:22.150
  • that's, you know, there is
  • 00:21:22.150 --> 00:21:24.030
  • a spirit world out there.
  • 00:21:24.030 --> 00:21:25.230
  • So that's one, continued
  • 00:21:25.230 --> 00:21:27.070
  • iniquity.
  • 00:21:27.070 --> 00:21:27.290
  • Now, not all illness is
  • 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:31.280
  • demonically inspired but we know
  • 00:21:31.280 --> 00:21:33.140
  • sickness came in the world with
  • 00:21:33.140 --> 00:21:34.180
  • the Fall, with sin.
  • 00:21:34.180 --> 00:21:36.020
  • But we've got the story of
  • 00:21:36.020 --> 00:21:37.170
  • Luke 13.
  • 00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:38.190
  • Jesus walks into the temple,
  • 00:21:38.190 --> 00:21:40.280
  • sees a woman bent over, calls
  • 00:21:40.280 --> 00:21:43.090
  • her to himself.
  • 00:21:43.090 --> 00:21:44.040
  • Now that right there is unique
  • 00:21:44.040 --> 00:21:45.200
  • 'cause most people came to
  • 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:46.180
  • Jesus.
  • 00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:47.080
  • And it says she had a spirit
  • 00:21:49.100 --> 00:21:51.030
  • of infirmity.
  • 00:21:51.030 --> 00:21:52.200
  • That's what the Bible says.
  • 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:53.140
  • So there is a spirit of
  • 00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:54.280
  • infirmity.
  • 00:21:54.280 --> 00:21:55.290
  • He cast it out.
  • 00:21:55.290 --> 00:21:56.250
  • She was healed.
  • 00:21:56.250 --> 00:21:57.260
  • Acts 10 says, verse 38,
  • 00:21:57.260 --> 00:21:59.210
  • "Jesus went about doing
  • 00:21:59.210 --> 00:22:00.220
  • good and healing all who
  • 00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:03.120
  • were oppressed by the devil."
  • 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:05.110
  • So I'm not saying all sickness
  • 00:22:05.110 --> 00:22:06.280
  • then is a demonic spirit
  • 00:22:06.280 --> 00:22:09.240
  • but it might be.
  • 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:10.170
  • If there's these continued
  • 00:22:10.170 --> 00:22:11.260
  • illnesses that are strange and
  • 00:22:11.260 --> 00:22:13.290
  • you can't figure it out, there
  • 00:22:13.290 --> 00:22:15.180
  • could be.
  • 00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:16.080
  • The reason he called her over,
  • 00:22:16.080 --> 00:22:17.160
  • by the way, it says she was
  • 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:18.270
  • a daughter of Abraham.
  • 00:22:18.270 --> 00:22:20.120
  • Now, we think in time
  • 00:22:20.120 --> 00:22:22.150
  • but God is timeless.
  • 00:22:22.150 --> 00:22:24.290
  • And Galatians 3 tells us that
  • 00:22:24.290 --> 00:22:26.240
  • "only the children of faith,"
  • 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.010
  • which is talking about faith
  • 00:22:29.010 --> 00:22:29.250
  • in Jesus, "are truly sons
  • 00:22:29.250 --> 00:22:31.230
  • and daughters of Abraham."
  • 00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:33.140
  • So this is a woman of faith.
  • 00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:35.200
  • So here it again shows that
  • 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:37.250
  • a person of faith could have
  • 00:22:37.250 --> 00:22:39.200
  • a spirit 'cause Jesus
  • 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.140
  • cast it out her.
  • 00:22:41.140 --> 00:22:42.150
  • So continued illness.
  • 00:22:42.150 --> 00:22:43.280
  • The other is continued
  • 00:22:43.280 --> 00:22:45.020
  • influence.
  • 00:22:45.020 --> 00:22:46.190
  • In Mark 7, a woman runs up to
  • 00:22:46.190 --> 00:22:49.010
  • Jesus and asked him to cast the
  • 00:22:49.010 --> 00:22:50.290
  • demon out of her daughter.
  • 00:22:50.290 --> 00:22:52.210
  • And it says she was a
  • 00:22:52.210 --> 00:22:53.200
  • Syrophoenician.
  • 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:54.170
  • That means she came from
  • 00:22:54.170 --> 00:22:55.130
  • Syria and Phoenicia.
  • 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:57.140
  • Phoenicia was the city
  • 00:22:57.140 --> 00:22:59.100
  • for the occult in that day.
  • 00:22:59.100 --> 00:23:01.280
  • Jezebel was a Phoenician woman.
  • 00:23:01.280 --> 00:23:04.040
  • That's the occult.
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:04.240
  • They practiced occult
  • 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.130
  • more than anything.
  • 00:23:06.130 --> 00:23:07.220
  • Her daughter has a demon.
  • 00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:10.090
  • Continued influence.
  • 00:23:10.090 --> 00:23:11.200
  • If we allow the influence of the
  • 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.060
  • occult around our families,
  • 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.200
  • ouija boards, you know, Dungeons
  • 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:20.150
  • and Dragons or video games.
  • 00:23:20.150 --> 00:23:22.080
  • There are all sorts of demonic
  • 00:23:22.080 --> 00:23:23.220
  • things in this world.
  • 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:24.240
  • We should have nothing to do
  • 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.220
  • with that.
  • 00:23:25.220 --> 00:23:26.120
  • You know, God said when you own
  • 00:23:26.120 --> 00:23:27.070
  • the Promised Land don't have
  • 00:23:27.070 --> 00:23:28.210
  • anything to do with spiritists,
  • 00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:30.090
  • mediums, those who practice the
  • 00:23:30.090 --> 00:23:32.150
  • occult, those who conjure up
  • 00:23:32.150 --> 00:23:34.050
  • spells.
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  • Don't have anything to do with
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  • that.
  • 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:36.180
  • But now, it's, like, our culture
  • 00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:39.040
  • is saying, "Oh, don't worry
  • 00:23:39.040 --> 00:23:40.000
  • about that.
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:40.200
  • That's just harmless stuff.
  • 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.060
  • You know, dress your
  • 00:23:42.060 --> 00:23:42.260
  • kids up as witches and
  • 00:23:42.260 --> 00:23:44.040
  • that's just harmless."
  • 00:23:44.040 --> 00:23:45.100
  • It's not harmless.
  • 00:23:45.100 --> 00:23:46.130
  • We shouldn't have anything
  • 00:23:46.130 --> 00:23:47.120
  • to do with it.
  • 00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:48.060
  • So her daughter has a demon.
  • 00:23:48.060 --> 00:23:49.290
  • She begs him.
  • 00:23:49.290 --> 00:23:50.260
  • Jesus makes a statement that
  • 00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:52.030
  • if you don't understand biblical
  • 00:23:52.030 --> 00:23:53.130
  • language it makes you--
  • 00:23:53.130 --> 00:23:55.140
  • it almost makes you a little
  • 00:23:55.140 --> 00:23:56.100
  • upset with him.
  • 00:23:56.100 --> 00:23:57.130
  • He said, "Let the children
  • 00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:58.230
  • be filled first.
  • 00:23:58.230 --> 00:24:00.120
  • It's not right to take
  • 00:24:00.120 --> 00:24:01.160
  • the children's bread
  • 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:02.150
  • and give it to dogs."
  • 00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:04.110
  • Well, obviously,
  • 00:24:04.110 --> 00:24:05.010
  • he's not being rude
  • 00:24:05.010 --> 00:24:05.210
  • to a woman who's hurting.
  • 00:24:05.210 --> 00:24:07.110
  • Dogs means lost people
  • 00:24:07.110 --> 00:24:09.150
  • in Scripture.
  • 00:24:09.150 --> 00:24:10.240
  • Paul writes to the Philippians
  • 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.220
  • and says, "Beware of dogs.
  • 00:24:12.220 --> 00:24:14.100
  • Beware of the false
  • 00:24:14.100 --> 00:24:15.060
  • circumcision," those that
  • 00:24:15.060 --> 00:24:16.070
  • say they're believers
  • 00:24:16.070 --> 00:24:17.010
  • but they're not truly.
  • 00:24:17.010 --> 00:24:18.240
  • Well, he wrote that, again
  • 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.240
  • using biblical language.
  • 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.010
  • That "beware of dogs," he didn't
  • 00:24:22.010 --> 00:24:23.120
  • write that because he was out
  • 00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:24.270
  • going door to door one day and
  • 00:24:24.270 --> 00:24:26.060
  • a dog bit him and so he got--
  • 00:24:26.060 --> 00:24:27.290
  • you know, he wrote back, "Hey,
  • 00:24:27.290 --> 00:24:28.280
  • beware of dogs when you're out
  • 00:24:28.280 --> 00:24:30.000
  • sharing the gospel."
  • 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:30.230
  • That's where we got the sign,
  • 00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:32.040
  • you know, "Beware of dog,"
  • 00:24:32.040 --> 00:24:33.070
  • so, from Paul.
  • 00:24:33.070 --> 00:24:35.040
  • But in Revelation it says
  • 00:24:35.060 --> 00:24:38.060
  • those who believe have the right
  • 00:24:38.060 --> 00:24:40.290
  • to enter the city,
  • 00:24:40.290 --> 00:24:42.010
  • talking about heaven.
  • 00:24:42.010 --> 00:24:42.280
  • Those outside the city--outside
  • 00:24:42.280 --> 00:24:44.280
  • the city are dogs, sexually
  • 00:24:44.280 --> 00:24:47.140
  • immoral, those who practice
  • 00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:49.030
  • and love a lie, gives this list.
  • 00:24:49.030 --> 00:24:51.100
  • So outside of heaven are not
  • 00:24:51.100 --> 00:24:53.000
  • Chihuahuas and, you know,
  • 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:54.210
  • poodles.
  • 00:24:54.210 --> 00:24:55.170
  • No, your dogs get to go to
  • 00:24:55.170 --> 00:24:57.060
  • heaven.
  • 00:24:57.060 --> 00:24:57.260
  • Now, it's a big deal when you're
  • 00:24:57.260 --> 00:24:59.060
  • a pastor if you don't--if you
  • 00:24:59.060 --> 00:25:00.030
  • say dogs don't go to heaven.
  • 00:25:00.030 --> 00:25:01.030
  • So, we have a dog.
  • 00:25:01.030 --> 00:25:03.170
  • But it's not talking about
  • 00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:05.260
  • literal dogs.
  • 00:25:05.260 --> 00:25:06.240
  • It's just lost people.
  • 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.170
  • Okay, so Jesus isn't being mean
  • 00:25:08.170 --> 00:25:10.010
  • to this woman.
  • 00:25:10.010 --> 00:25:11.050
  • He's just saying,
  • 00:25:11.050 --> 00:25:12.100
  • "You're not a believer."
  • 00:25:12.100 --> 00:25:14.130
  • Okay, but he's still going to
  • 00:25:14.130 --> 00:25:15.220
  • cast the demon out.
  • 00:25:15.220 --> 00:25:17.010
  • He does cast the demon out
  • 00:25:17.010 --> 00:25:18.010
  • 'cause he loves everyone.
  • 00:25:18.010 --> 00:25:19.230
  • So why would he make
  • 00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:20.190
  • the statement?
  • 00:25:20.190 --> 00:25:21.130
  • He's trying to teach us
  • 00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:22.060
  • something.
  • 00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:22.260
  • He said--she's asking for
  • 00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:24.220
  • deliverance.
  • 00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:25.160
  • Here's what he's saying:
  • 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:26.190
  • "Deliverance is
  • 00:25:26.190 --> 00:25:27.090
  • for the children.
  • 00:25:27.090 --> 00:25:29.160
  • This is the children's bread.
  • 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:31.160
  • When you come to Christ, when
  • 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:32.210
  • you come to me, you can be
  • 00:25:32.210 --> 00:25:34.070
  • healed and you can be delivered.
  • 00:25:34.070 --> 00:25:36.070
  • That's what the gospel is."
  • 00:25:36.070 --> 00:25:38.140
  • So why would he say that
  • 00:25:38.140 --> 00:25:39.230
  • deliverance is the children's
  • 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:41.080
  • bread if the children don't
  • 00:25:42.030 --> 00:25:45.030
  • need deliverance?
  • 00:25:45.030 --> 00:25:46.060
  • See what I'm saying?
  • 00:25:46.060 --> 00:25:47.170
  • So there's just so many things
  • 00:25:47.170 --> 00:25:49.190
  • that we have to first understand
  • 00:25:49.190 --> 00:25:51.210
  • that, even as Christians,
  • 00:25:51.210 --> 00:25:53.020
  • we can be in bondage.
  • 00:25:53.020 --> 00:25:54.230
  • Here's the great news.
  • 00:25:54.230 --> 00:25:56.070
  • Jesus still casts demons out of
  • 00:25:56.070 --> 00:25:57.280
  • people and he doesn't have any
  • 00:25:57.280 --> 00:26:00.180
  • problem doing that at all.
  • 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:03.180
  • - Matt: We are talking
  • 00:26:03.180 --> 00:26:05.020
  • about "Truly Free."
  • 00:26:05.020 --> 00:26:06.120
  • Robert and the silent
  • 00:26:06.120 --> 00:26:08.100
  • Debbie Morris are with us
  • 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:10.040
  • as our guests today.
  • 00:26:10.040 --> 00:26:12.050
  • The subtitle here is
  • 00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:13.050
  • "Breaking the Snares
  • 00:26:13.050 --> 00:26:14.140
  • That so Easily Entangle."
  • 00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:16.170
  • Okay, you're talking
  • 00:26:16.170 --> 00:26:19.080
  • about things that are pretty
  • 00:26:19.080 --> 00:26:21.250
  • deep subject matter here but
  • 00:26:21.250 --> 00:26:24.230
  • they could, if you moved into
  • 00:26:24.230 --> 00:26:27.000
  • the shallow end, you're talking
  • 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:28.250
  • about road rage type of stuff
  • 00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:31.190
  • and honking your horn when
  • 00:26:31.190 --> 00:26:32.220
  • somebody cuts you off and maybe
  • 00:26:32.220 --> 00:26:34.240
  • a gesture comes up, you know.
  • 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.140
  • You don't wanna do
  • 00:26:36.140 --> 00:26:37.200
  • the gesture but you do.
  • 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:38.240
  • You're just kind of snappy
  • 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.020
  • with the, you know.
  • 00:26:40.020 --> 00:26:41.030
  • You're talking about really
  • 00:26:41.030 --> 00:26:42.190
  • everything that's counter to,
  • 00:26:42.190 --> 00:26:44.060
  • you know,
  • 00:26:44.060 --> 00:26:44.260
  • the fruit of the spirit.
  • 00:26:44.260 --> 00:26:46.010
  • - Robert: Right.
  • 00:26:46.010 --> 00:26:46.270
  • - Matt: Okay, so it could be,
  • 00:26:46.270 --> 00:26:48.040
  • you know, on a scale to one to
  • 00:26:48.040 --> 00:26:49.130
  • ten a one on that or somebody
  • 00:26:49.130 --> 00:26:51.130
  • may be dealing with a ten
  • 00:26:51.130 --> 00:26:52.220
  • on that scale and everything
  • 00:26:52.220 --> 00:26:53.280
  • in between, okay.
  • 00:26:53.280 --> 00:26:55.110
  • So your question is?
  • 00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:58.230
  • - Laurie: Mine?
  • 00:26:58.230 --> 00:26:59.130
  • Well, you know, sometimes,
  • 00:26:59.130 --> 00:27:00.240
  • this has turned very crazy in
  • 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.010
  • the church and people saying,
  • 00:27:03.010 --> 00:27:05.130
  • you know, "You have a demon,"
  • 00:27:05.130 --> 00:27:06.150
  • and you go, "Really?"
  • 00:27:06.150 --> 00:27:08.000
  • You know, and are we ever
  • 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.080
  • unaware that we've been
  • 00:27:10.170 --> 00:27:13.170
  • possessed, or?
  • 00:27:13.170 --> 00:27:15.130
  • - Robert: Yeah, yeah,
  • 00:27:15.130 --> 00:27:16.070
  • absolutely.
  • 00:27:16.070 --> 00:27:16.270
  • And that, you know, we
  • 00:27:16.270 --> 00:27:17.170
  • call them blind spots.
  • 00:27:17.170 --> 00:27:19.030
  • But not everything that moves
  • 00:27:19.030 --> 00:27:21.030
  • is a demon.
  • 00:27:21.030 --> 00:27:21.260
  • I mean, you brought up
  • 00:27:21.260 --> 00:27:23.000
  • a great--there's the balance.
  • 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.140
  • Like Pastor Jack said, there's
  • 00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:25.240
  • a balance that we're going to
  • 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.170
  • have a battle with the flesh
  • 00:27:27.170 --> 00:27:29.090
  • but we also wrestle against
  • 00:27:29.090 --> 00:27:31.000
  • principalities and powers.
  • 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:32.220
  • So there's the balance.
  • 00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:33.230
  • You said such a great thing,
  • 00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:36.190
  • Matt, there about fruit.
  • 00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:38.170
  • You know, so the fruit would
  • 00:27:38.170 --> 00:27:40.270
  • be the anger, the road rage,
  • 00:27:40.270 --> 00:27:42.220
  • all that.
  • 00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:43.150
  • What's the root?
  • 00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:45.040
  • 'Cause all fruit comes
  • 00:27:45.040 --> 00:27:46.020
  • from a root.
  • 00:27:46.020 --> 00:27:47.040
  • So I deal with that specifically
  • 00:27:47.040 --> 00:27:49.000
  • in the book, is what's the root
  • 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.150
  • and that's what you need to get
  • 00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:53.100
  • cast out and that's where you
  • 00:27:53.100 --> 00:27:54.260
  • need to be discipled, that "lay
  • 00:27:54.260 --> 00:27:56.210
  • the ax to it," which would be
  • 00:27:56.210 --> 00:27:57.280
  • the Word of God, the sharp
  • 00:27:57.280 --> 00:27:59.000
  • sword.
  • 00:27:59.000 --> 00:27:59.200
  • So I'll give you an example
  • 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:00.230
  • of my own life.
  • 00:28:00.230 --> 00:28:01.290
  • My own life as a teenager from
  • 00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:04.150
  • a very early age, sexual
  • 00:28:04.150 --> 00:28:07.110
  • immorality started just
  • 00:28:07.110 --> 00:28:09.140
  • becoming a part of my life.
  • 00:28:09.140 --> 00:28:11.100
  • Pornographic things, and then as
  • 00:28:11.100 --> 00:28:13.090
  • a teenager, I was the guy that
  • 00:28:13.100 --> 00:28:16.100
  • it--this is so sad to say and
  • 00:28:16.100 --> 00:28:19.070
  • I hate to say it but so many
  • 00:28:19.070 --> 00:28:20.050
  • people could relate to--a lot of
  • 00:28:20.050 --> 00:28:22.180
  • people can relate to sexual
  • 00:28:22.180 --> 00:28:23.220
  • immorality, I've found.
  • 00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:25.030
  • And for years I didn't want to
  • 00:28:25.030 --> 00:28:25.250
  • talk about it.
  • 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.070
  • But I was the guy that when
  • 00:28:27.070 --> 00:28:28.200
  • the friends went out,
  • 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:29.220
  • would end up being immoral.
  • 00:28:29.220 --> 00:28:31.230
  • And my friends used to call it
  • 00:28:31.230 --> 00:28:33.200
  • blessed.
  • 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:34.100
  • They'd say, "You're blessed."
  • 00:28:34.100 --> 00:28:35.140
  • Well, I wasn't blessed,
  • 00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:36.060
  • I was cursed.
  • 00:28:36.060 --> 00:28:37.090
  • I was cursed.
  • 00:28:37.090 --> 00:28:38.020
  • It was a curse.
  • 00:28:38.020 --> 00:28:39.060
  • But what was the curse?
  • 00:28:39.060 --> 00:28:40.150
  • So I'm telling people for years,
  • 00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:42.210
  • "Help me, help me.
  • 00:28:42.210 --> 00:28:44.020
  • There's a propensity in me
  • 00:28:44.020 --> 00:28:46.110
  • toward immorality."
  • 00:28:46.110 --> 00:28:47.110
  • This is after I got saved.
  • 00:28:47.110 --> 00:28:48.100
  • "And I don't want it.
  • 00:28:48.100 --> 00:28:49.080
  • I don't know what to do.
  • 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:49.280
  • You know, cast it out."
  • 00:28:49.280 --> 00:28:51.090
  • Well, lust and all those
  • 00:28:51.090 --> 00:28:53.130
  • things, those were the fruit
  • 00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:55.070
  • but I finally found out
  • 00:28:55.070 --> 00:28:56.100
  • what the root was.
  • 00:28:56.100 --> 00:28:57.250
  • Hebrews says, "Don't let
  • 00:28:57.250 --> 00:28:59.210
  • a root of bitterness spring up
  • 00:29:00.220 --> 00:29:03.220
  • or many will be defiled."
  • 00:29:03.220 --> 00:29:05.280
  • That word "defiled" is sexual.
  • 00:29:05.280 --> 00:29:08.060
  • Many, many will be sexually
  • 00:29:08.060 --> 00:29:10.210
  • defiled and then the very next
  • 00:29:10.210 --> 00:29:12.190
  • verse but we don't connect them
  • 00:29:12.190 --> 00:29:13.230
  • 'cause it's a verse,
  • 00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:14.160
  • but it's the same sentence,
  • 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.160
  • says, "And there will be
  • 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.030
  • a fornicator among you."
  • 00:29:17.060 --> 00:29:20.060
  • Starts with bitterness though.
  • 00:29:20.060 --> 00:29:22.080
  • What I didn't realize was
  • 00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:25.190
  • my mother's--I knew this
  • 00:29:25.190 --> 00:29:26.250
  • but I didn't connect it.
  • 00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:28.160
  • My mother's father was murdered
  • 00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:31.170
  • in front of her.
  • 00:29:31.170 --> 00:29:33.210
  • No little girl should ever have
  • 00:29:33.210 --> 00:29:35.070
  • to see that.
  • 00:29:35.070 --> 00:29:37.240
  • And my mother saw that.
  • 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.160
  • And she was daddy's little girl.
  • 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.290
  • And then the man was one of
  • 00:29:43.290 --> 00:29:46.010
  • the first men in America that
  • 00:29:46.010 --> 00:29:47.120
  • got off on temporary insanity
  • 00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:48.210
  • that killed.
  • 00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:50.130
  • And my mother never understood
  • 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:51.170
  • that.
  • 00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:52.050
  • How--what do you mean,
  • 00:29:52.050 --> 00:29:53.030
  • temporarily insane?
  • 00:29:53.030 --> 00:29:54.100
  • Why wouldn't he still be
  • 00:29:54.100 --> 00:29:55.250
  • responsible for his actions,
  • 00:29:55.250 --> 00:29:57.290
  • you know?
  • 00:29:57.290 --> 00:29:58.270
  • And then, my father actually
  • 00:29:58.270 --> 00:30:01.120
  • survived being shot
  • 00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:02.240
  • five times--I mean,
  • 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.270
  • my grandfather--five times for
  • 00:30:03.270 --> 00:30:04.290
  • about a week.
  • 00:30:04.290 --> 00:30:06.110
  • He survived for about a week.
  • 00:30:06.110 --> 00:30:07.270
  • Then he had a blood clot
  • 00:30:07.270 --> 00:30:08.290
  • that--the bullets didn't kill
  • 00:30:08.290 --> 00:30:09.280
  • him but a blood clot and he was
  • 00:30:09.280 --> 00:30:11.200
  • begging the nurse to call
  • 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.080
  • the doctors, back in a little
  • 00:30:13.080 --> 00:30:14.160
  • small town, one little doctor.
  • 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.050
  • Doctor said, "Don't call me.
  • 00:30:16.050 --> 00:30:17.200
  • You know, no matter what,
  • 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.240
  • it's on a weekend."
  • 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.090
  • And he begged for
  • 00:30:20.090 --> 00:30:21.070
  • 8 hours to call the doctor.
  • 00:30:21.070 --> 00:30:23.130
  • And he said,
  • 00:30:23.130 --> 00:30:24.010
  • "I'm dying, I'm dying."
  • 00:30:24.010 --> 00:30:24.290
  • Well, he died.
  • 00:30:24.290 --> 00:30:27.070
  • And so for my mother, there
  • 00:30:27.070 --> 00:30:29.170
  • weren't any school counselors
  • 00:30:29.170 --> 00:30:30.180
  • back then.
  • 00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:31.070
  • It was in the '50s.
  • 00:30:31.070 --> 00:30:32.110
  • There were no pastors,
  • 00:30:32.110 --> 00:30:34.030
  • there were no psychologists
  • 00:30:34.030 --> 00:30:35.250
  • that helped.
  • 00:30:35.250 --> 00:30:36.140
  • Nobody ever asked her about
  • 00:30:36.140 --> 00:30:38.000
  • coughing up blood with his chest
  • 00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:42.040
  • bleeding in front of her.
  • 00:30:42.040 --> 00:30:43.140
  • No one.
  • 00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:44.150
  • So there was bitterness.
  • 00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:47.020
  • No one taught her.
  • 00:30:47.020 --> 00:30:47.220
  • The church didn't know how to
  • 00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:48.180
  • deal with things like that.
  • 00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:50.070
  • It was a root of bitterness.
  • 00:30:50.070 --> 00:30:51.220
  • Now, I'm not blaming my mother.
  • 00:30:51.220 --> 00:30:53.060
  • She knows that.
  • 00:30:53.060 --> 00:30:53.260
  • We've had great conversations
  • 00:30:53.260 --> 00:30:55.010
  • about this.
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  • She's free today because finally
  • 00:30:55.210 --> 00:30:57.250
  • she's gotten help in this area.
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  • But there was a root of
  • 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.090
  • bitterness in our family 'cause
  • 00:31:01.090 --> 00:31:03.200
  • we had someone murdered.
  • 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.130
  • I grew up knowing my grandfather
  • 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:06.270
  • was murdered.
  • 00:31:06.270 --> 00:31:08.050
  • That root of bitterness was what
  • 00:31:08.050 --> 00:31:09.220
  • and in our family.
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  • When that was dealt with, the
  • 00:31:12.290 --> 00:31:15.020
  • bad fruit then was cut off.
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  • That's what I talk about
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  • That's what I talk about
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  • [a
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  • [aud
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  • [audie
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  • [audienc
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  • [audience
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  • [audience ap
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  • [audience appl
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  • [audience applau
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  • [audience applaudi
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  • [audience applauding
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  • - Matt: Let's--you know
  • 00:31:25.270 --> 00:31:28.270
  • that we come from kind of
  • 00:31:28.270 --> 00:31:31.130
  • the same cloth, let's say,
  • 00:31:31.130 --> 00:31:33.230
  • the denominational backgrounds
  • 00:31:33.230 --> 00:31:36.090
  • of our families would have been
  • 00:31:36.090 --> 00:31:38.210
  • very similar, you know, the
  • 00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:41.010
  • connection between Jack Hayford
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  • pastored my parents.
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  • He is kind of your, you know,
  • 00:31:46.110 --> 00:31:49.060
  • father in the faith, you know,
  • 00:31:49.060 --> 00:31:51.060
  • and so there's a lot of
  • 00:31:51.060 --> 00:31:52.140
  • similarities and you know that
  • 00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:54.150
  • by nature, Laurie and I want to
  • 00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:58.040
  • agree with everything you teach
  • 00:31:58.040 --> 00:32:00.060
  • and preach.
  • 00:32:00.060 --> 00:32:01.210
  • So it's not us, but I wanna ask
  • 00:32:01.210 --> 00:32:03.170
  • on behalf of someone that goes,
  • 00:32:03.170 --> 00:32:05.120
  • "Robert, seriously,
  • 00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:07.020
  • you have lost it.
  • 00:32:07.020 --> 00:32:08.080
  • This is not right."
  • 00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:10.100
  • How do you get someone
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  • to open their mind
  • 00:32:11.250 --> 00:32:13.250
  • so that this book can help them?
  • 00:32:13.270 --> 00:32:16.270
  • The subject of what you're
  • 00:32:16.270 --> 00:32:17.290
  • talking about can help,
  • 00:32:17.290 --> 00:32:19.150
  • and it can penetrate if they--
  • 00:32:19.150 --> 00:32:21.040
  • if they're starting from,
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  • you know, kind of zero.
  • 00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:24.240
  • They just don't buy it.
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  • They've never heard this before.
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  • It sounds a little crazy.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, well,
  • 00:32:29.090 --> 00:32:29.290
  • I'd say two things.
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  • Number one, it's the Word
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  • of God.
  • 00:32:33.010 --> 00:32:33.210
  • Scripture in there and y'all
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  • have heard me where I show the
  • 00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:38.050
  • theological meaning, even
  • 00:32:38.050 --> 00:32:39.170
  • the--from the Greek in the New
  • 00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:42.220
  • Testament, Hebrew in the Old, I
  • 00:32:42.220 --> 00:32:44.110
  • show that so I start with that
  • 00:32:44.110 --> 00:32:46.170
  • and then I make it simple.
  • 00:32:46.170 --> 00:32:48.060
  • But the other thing is practical
  • 00:32:48.060 --> 00:32:49.180
  • experience.
  • 00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:50.210
  • I mean, before we, you know,
  • 00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:53.130
  • started today, we said to these
  • 00:32:53.130 --> 00:32:55.060
  • wonderful Christians in the
  • 00:32:55.060 --> 00:32:57.040
  • in a lot of areas but is there
  • 00:32:59.130 --> 00:33:00.150
  • one area or two areas of your
  • 00:33:00.150 --> 00:33:02.020
  • life you feel like,
  • 00:33:02.020 --> 00:33:03.030
  • 'I just struggle with this
  • 00:33:03.030 --> 00:33:03.290
  • all the time'?"
  • 00:33:03.290 --> 00:33:04.260
  • and every hand went up, except
  • 00:33:04.260 --> 00:33:06.030
  • for two and they're lying.
  • 00:33:06.030 --> 00:33:07.120
  • Struggle, they don't struggle
  • 00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:09.160
  • with life and pride so.
  • 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.100
  • And I'm joking, you guys, so.
  • 00:33:11.100 --> 00:33:12.260
  • But--so one of the things I go
  • 00:33:13.170 --> 00:33:16.170
  • into is, for instance, Acts 13,
  • 00:33:17.110 --> 00:33:20.110
  • Paul says, "Beware lest what
  • 00:33:20.110 --> 00:33:22.240
  • was spoken in the prophets
  • 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.000
  • come upon you."
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  • And he's quoting from
  • 00:33:25.290 --> 00:33:27.140
  • Habakkuk.
  • 00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:28.270
  • So you go back to Habakkuk 1
  • 00:33:28.270 --> 00:33:30.120
  • and it says: "I'm raising up
  • 00:33:30.120 --> 00:33:32.170
  • the Chaldeans, a bitter
  • 00:33:32.170 --> 00:33:34.210
  • and hasty nation," da, da, da,
  • 00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:36.060
  • and it describes them.
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  • Okay, so there was a
  • 00:33:37.190 --> 00:33:38.090
  • literal--there were literal
  • 00:33:38.090 --> 00:33:39.080
  • Chaldeans.
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  • Nebuchadnezzar was a Chaldean.
  • 00:33:39.280 --> 00:33:40.270
  • So, okay, so there were
  • 00:33:40.270 --> 00:33:42.120
  • Chaldeans.
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  • The only thing is that Chaldeans
  • 00:33:44.020 --> 00:33:46.070
  • were destroyed.
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  • They were gone.
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  • There weren't
  • 00:33:50.020 --> 00:33:50.200
  • any more Chaldeans.
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  • When Paul said, "Beware lest
  • 00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:53.260
  • what was spoken in the prophets
  • 00:33:53.260 --> 00:33:55.030
  • comes upon you."
  • 00:33:55.030 --> 00:33:56.030
  • So Chaldeans, they were
  • 00:33:56.030 --> 00:33:57.080
  • a literal nation.
  • 00:33:57.080 --> 00:33:58.120
  • But when you read it, God was
  • 00:33:58.120 --> 00:34:00.070
  • saying, "Listen, there's an
  • 00:34:00.070 --> 00:34:02.000
  • army out there.
  • 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.130
  • They would hide in the marshes
  • 00:34:03.130 --> 00:34:04.220
  • and shoot people.
  • 00:34:04.220 --> 00:34:06.080
  • As you were struggling to get
  • 00:34:06.080 --> 00:34:07.220
  • through the marsh, they'd shoot
  • 00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:09.070
  • you with a bow and arrow.
  • 00:34:09.070 --> 00:34:10.190
  • Okay, think about the enemy,
  • 00:34:10.190 --> 00:34:12.190
  • Satan, the flaming arrows
  • 00:34:12.190 --> 00:34:13.230
  • of him.
  • 00:34:13.230 --> 00:34:14.180
  • When you're struggling, that's
  • 00:34:14.180 --> 00:34:15.230
  • when he comes against you.
  • 00:34:15.230 --> 00:34:17.000
  • So the typology of that is
  • 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.210
  • so phenomenal yet the New
  • 00:34:18.210 --> 00:34:20.190
  • Testament, the Holy Spirit, Paul
  • 00:34:20.190 --> 00:34:23.070
  • says it but if it was an error,
  • 00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:26.020
  • then the Holy Spirit wouldn't
  • 00:34:26.020 --> 00:34:27.100
  • have prompted Luke to write that
  • 00:34:27.100 --> 00:34:28.220
  • in the Bible.
  • 00:34:28.220 --> 00:34:29.190
  • It's in the Bible: "Beware lest
  • 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:31.030
  • it come on you," but here's what
  • 00:34:31.030 --> 00:34:32.190
  • it--this is gonna blow you away.
  • 00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:34.020
  • It says: "They are a bitter
  • 00:34:34.020 --> 00:34:36.190
  • nation who are marching through
  • 00:34:36.190 --> 00:34:38.230
  • the land to possess dwelling
  • 00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:41.260
  • places that are not theirs."
  • 00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:44.200
  • It's exactly what demons
  • 00:34:44.200 --> 00:34:47.140
  • are trying to do.
  • 00:34:47.140 --> 00:34:48.280
  • They're trying to--
  • 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.100
  • they're squatters.
  • 00:34:50.100 --> 00:34:51.200
  • They do not belong.
  • 00:34:51.200 --> 00:34:54.050
  • This is--I am blood bought.
  • 00:34:54.050 --> 00:34:55.180
  • This is--I belong to Jesus.
  • 00:34:55.180 --> 00:34:57.190
  • They're trying to squat, you
  • 00:34:57.190 --> 00:34:59.130
  • know, they're trying to come in
  • 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.050
  • and they are trying to possess
  • 00:35:01.070 --> 00:35:04.070
  • dwelling places that are not
  • 00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.000
  • theirs.
  • 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.140
  • So that's what I'm--I'm taking
  • 00:35:07.140 --> 00:35:08.110
  • the Scripture.
  • 00:35:08.110 --> 00:35:10.050
  • So to the person that says,
  • 00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:11.170
  • "This verse I never heard it and
  • 00:35:11.170 --> 00:35:12.230
  • I just don't know about this,"
  • 00:35:12.230 --> 00:35:13.250
  • I'd say, "Well, get the book
  • 00:35:13.250 --> 00:35:15.100
  • and get your Bible and see
  • 00:35:15.100 --> 00:35:16.270
  • what your Bible says."
  • 00:35:16.270 --> 00:35:18.150
  • - Laurie: Yeah, you know, I am
  • 00:35:18.150 --> 00:35:19.150
  • a great--I mean, the cross took
  • 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.280
  • care of everything for us as
  • 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.290
  • believers.
  • 00:35:24.290 --> 00:35:26.050
  • Whom the Son sets free is free
  • 00:35:26.050 --> 00:35:27.220
  • indeed and the truth that you
  • 00:35:27.220 --> 00:35:29.110
  • know that sets you free, right?
  • 00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:32.170
  • What about those people that
  • 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:34.010
  • maybe have just come to Christ,
  • 00:35:34.160 --> 00:35:37.160
  • they're battling in areas and
  • 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.000
  • they don't know that the door
  • 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.070
  • was open with grandmother, you
  • 00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:45.020
  • know, whoever, that caused me to
  • 00:35:45.020 --> 00:35:47.020
  • maybe be where--in the pickle
  • 00:35:47.020 --> 00:35:48.280
  • that I am and I'm ignorant of
  • 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.170
  • that but I know that I need
  • 00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:54.050
  • help.
  • 00:35:54.050 --> 00:35:54.260
  • I believe in the power of the
  • 00:35:54.260 --> 00:35:56.210
  • cross that he said it's finished
  • 00:35:56.210 --> 00:35:59.090
  • for us.
  • 00:35:59.090 --> 00:35:59.290
  • How do we--how do we, if we
  • 00:36:00.020 --> 00:36:03.020
  • don't know--
  • 00:36:03.020 --> 00:36:03.260
  • - Robert: I got it.
  • 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:04.160
  • I got it.
  • 00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:05.070
  • I'm bursting.
  • 00:36:05.070 --> 00:36:05.270
  • I'm ready to go.
  • 00:36:05.270 --> 00:36:07.240
  • I got it, I got--
  • 00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:08.210
  • - Laurie: Heal me.
  • 00:36:08.210 --> 00:36:09.140
  • - Robert: Yeah, I'm so excited
  • 00:36:09.140 --> 00:36:10.090
  • about it because it is the power
  • 00:36:10.090 --> 00:36:11.130
  • of the cross and the person
  • 00:36:11.130 --> 00:36:14.000
  • of the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.060
  • - Matt: Beautiful, beautiful.
  • 00:36:15.060 --> 00:36:16.080
  • - Robert: It's the power of
  • 00:36:16.080 --> 00:36:17.050
  • the cross and the person of
  • 00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:19.050
  • the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:20.040
  • Jesus makes one of the greatest
  • 00:36:20.040 --> 00:36:22.010
  • statements ever.
  • 00:36:22.010 --> 00:36:22.220
  • Jesus said, "I'm not going to
  • 00:36:22.220 --> 00:36:24.080
  • leave you as orphans.
  • 00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:25.260
  • I'm going to send another like
  • 00:36:25.260 --> 00:36:27.210
  • me and he's going to guide you
  • 00:36:28.020 --> 00:36:31.020
  • into all truth."
  • 00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:33.090
  • So he's going to cause
  • 00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:34.190
  • that word that sets me free
  • 00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:35.250
  • to jump off the page to me,
  • 00:36:35.250 --> 00:36:37.080
  • cause it to come alive, and he's
  • 00:36:37.080 --> 00:36:38.150
  • going to show me and lead me
  • 00:36:38.150 --> 00:36:40.160
  • to people who understand
  • 00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:42.050
  • deliverance and inner healing
  • 00:36:42.050 --> 00:36:44.040
  • and all these things that I can
  • 00:36:44.040 --> 00:36:46.030
  • now understand the things that
  • 00:36:46.030 --> 00:36:48.240
  • are holding me in bondage, and
  • 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:50.050
  • he is going to set me free,
  • 00:36:50.050 --> 00:36:52.010
  • spirit, soul, and body.
  • 00:36:52.010 --> 00:36:53.120
  • See, the cross is final
  • 00:36:53.120 --> 00:36:55.160
  • in my spirit.
  • 00:36:55.160 --> 00:36:56.280
  • My spirit's perfect before God.
  • 00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.140
  • It's perfect.
  • 00:36:58.140 --> 00:37:00.040
  • My body will be made perfect.
  • 00:37:00.040 --> 00:37:02.170
  • It will be.
  • 00:37:02.170 --> 00:37:03.070
  • I'll have a perfect body, y'all.
  • 00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:04.170
  • I'll look a little more
  • 00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:05.070
  • like you, my waist here.
  • 00:37:05.070 --> 00:37:08.040
  • Matt, one day my waist
  • 00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:08.280
  • is going to be smaller
  • 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:09.270
  • when I get to heaven.
  • 00:37:09.270 --> 00:37:10.250
  • You're going to say, "Wow, you
  • 00:37:10.250 --> 00:37:11.170
  • lost weight," when you see me
  • 00:37:11.170 --> 00:37:12.080
  • there.
  • 00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:12.290
  • Okay, so I'll have a perfect
  • 00:37:12.290 --> 00:37:14.080
  • body one day.
  • 00:37:14.080 --> 00:37:15.120
  • But my soul is actually, it
  • 00:37:15.120 --> 00:37:18.040
  • even says, is being perfected.
  • 00:37:18.040 --> 00:37:20.160
  • My soul, it actually says,
  • 00:37:20.160 --> 00:37:22.030
  • is being saved.
  • 00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:23.070
  • Now that doesn't mean that my
  • 00:37:23.070 --> 00:37:24.210
  • salvation is in jeopardy 'cause
  • 00:37:24.210 --> 00:37:26.000
  • it's by grace through faith.
  • 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.120
  • It means my soul--the word
  • 00:37:27.120 --> 00:37:28.130
  • "saved" means made whole.
  • 00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:30.000
  • Sózó is the Greek word,
  • 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.250
  • being made whole.
  • 00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:32.290
  • So my spirit's already
  • 00:37:32.290 --> 00:37:33.230
  • been made whole.
  • 00:37:33.230 --> 00:37:35.030
  • My body's going to be
  • 00:37:35.030 --> 00:37:35.280
  • made whole.
  • 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.000
  • My soul is being made whole
  • 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.050
  • because my soul has grown up in
  • 00:37:39.050 --> 00:37:41.210
  • a horrible world and so my mind
  • 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.280
  • thinks a certain way.
  • 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:45.230
  • That's why I've got to make it
  • 00:37:45.230 --> 00:37:46.210
  • new again.
  • 00:37:46.210 --> 00:37:48.020
  • My emotions, I feel this way.
  • 00:37:48.020 --> 00:37:50.170
  • That's why I've got to submit my
  • 00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:52.190
  • emotions to the Holy Spirit so
  • 00:37:52.190 --> 00:37:53.290
  • I can have joy and peace and all
  • 00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:56.100
  • the fruit of the Spirit, see?
  • 00:37:56.100 --> 00:37:58.150
  • - Matt: We are discussing,
  • 00:37:58.150 --> 00:38:00.050
  • "Truly Free," this book, and
  • 00:38:00.050 --> 00:38:02.130
  • Robert, if it wasn't you and if
  • 00:38:02.130 --> 00:38:04.130
  • Debbie wasn't sitting next to
  • 00:38:04.130 --> 00:38:05.210
  • you, I would probably
  • 00:38:05.210 --> 00:38:08.150
  • second-guess this.
  • 00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:10.180
  • If it wasn't you, I'm gonna
  • 00:38:10.180 --> 00:38:12.110
  • tell you something.
  • 00:38:12.110 --> 00:38:13.030
  • I would never open this
  • 00:38:13.030 --> 00:38:15.060
  • conversation with anybody
  • 00:38:15.060 --> 00:38:17.010
  • on these airwaves ever.
  • 00:38:17.010 --> 00:38:19.220
  • So you're the guy
  • 00:38:19.220 --> 00:38:22.010
  • that's gonna do this.
  • 00:38:22.010 --> 00:38:24.040
  • Let's not just talk about what
  • 00:38:24.040 --> 00:38:26.140
  • we're talking about.
  • 00:38:26.140 --> 00:38:27.180
  • There could be somebody out
  • 00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:28.220
  • there right now going, "Wait
  • 00:38:28.220 --> 00:38:30.200
  • a second, I don't know anybody.
  • 00:38:30.200 --> 00:38:31.280
  • I'm the only Christian
  • 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.110
  • I know, okay?
  • 00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:34.260
  • I don't know anybody, you know.
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  • I live in Two Sticks, Idaho,
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  • and, you know, or I'm in another
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  • part of the country or another
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  • part of the world."
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  • And they need something
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  • from you now, okay, so?
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  • - Laurie: 'Cause I think people
  • 00:38:47.110 --> 00:38:48.190
  • get in such bondage and they get
  • 00:38:48.190 --> 00:38:50.160
  • in such a struggle that they
  • 00:38:50.160 --> 00:38:52.030
  • just say, "You know what?
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  • I don't think I can ever,
  • 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:54.140
  • ever be free.
  • 00:38:54.140 --> 00:38:55.230
  • I don't know that much about
  • 00:38:55.230 --> 00:38:57.040
  • the Lord and I know that I--"
  • 00:38:57.040 --> 00:38:59.050
  • you know, and so I know that
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  • it's a simple gospel, you know?
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  • And I feel for people who think
  • 00:39:05.060 --> 00:39:08.060
  • that this is just too hard.
  • 00:39:08.060 --> 00:39:10.050
  • - Matt: And it can't be complex
  • 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:12.090
  • because Jesus said, you know,
  • 00:39:12.090 --> 00:39:14.140
  • "Unless you come as a child
  • 00:39:14.140 --> 00:39:15.200
  • anyway," you know, so nothing
  • 00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:17.090
  • about being truly free, nothing
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  • about adopting something Jesus
  • 00:39:20.150 --> 00:39:22.140
  • said, can be hard.
  • 00:39:22.140 --> 00:39:24.050
  • So the idea that some people
  • 00:39:24.050 --> 00:39:26.170
  • make a doctrine out of
  • 00:39:26.290 --> 00:39:29.290
  • deliverance has happened.
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  • Had abuse, does happen.
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  • And it becomes a law.
  • 00:39:33.290 --> 00:39:35.150
  • So here you're talking about
  • 00:39:35.150 --> 00:39:37.050
  • being free and you've created
  • 00:39:37.050 --> 00:39:39.150
  • a law out of it.
  • 00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:40.260
  • And unless you come to my course
  • 00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:41.220
  • and do this and do that.
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  • So it can't be that hard.
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  • - Robert: Not at all.
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  • - Matt: I give you the platform
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  • to--there's someone watching,
  • 00:39:47.220 --> 00:39:49.130
  • many watching now, that wanna
  • 00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:51.060
  • pray a prayer, they want--and
  • 00:39:51.060 --> 00:39:52.140
  • they want to have this sharp ax
  • 00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:55.040
  • laid to a root.
  • 00:39:55.040 --> 00:39:55.290
  • Let's do that now.
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  • - Robert: It could happen right
  • 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:58.000
  • now.
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  • That's a great thing because
  • 00:39:58.200 --> 00:39:59.110
  • here's the point.
  • 00:39:59.110 --> 00:40:01.150
  • Where do you want me to look?
  • 00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:02.080
  • Okay, I'm going to look right
  • 00:40:02.080 --> 00:40:03.070
  • there 'cause I'm going to talk
  • 00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.090
  • to you.
  • 00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:05.290
  • - Matt: Just don't look at me.
  • 00:40:05.290 --> 00:40:06.210
  • - Robert: Okay.
  • 00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:07.190
  • All right, here's a great point.
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  • It's still the cross.
  • 00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.290
  • It's still Jesus.
  • 00:40:12.290 --> 00:40:14.190
  • It's still Jesus.
  • 00:40:14.190 --> 00:40:15.150
  • Jesus sets you free.
  • 00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:16.230
  • So I want to say this.
  • 00:40:16.230 --> 00:40:17.200
  • There really are demons.
  • 00:40:17.200 --> 00:40:19.290
  • It's in Scripture.
  • 00:40:19.290 --> 00:40:21.150
  • There really are demons.
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  • They really do try to control
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  • people and try to harass people
  • 00:40:26.020 --> 00:40:28.050
  • and try to oppress people
  • 00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:29.260
  • and they really do that.
  • 00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:31.010
  • They really do.
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  • But listen to this.
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  • Jesus really does cast them out.
  • 00:40:33.080 --> 00:40:35.130
  • I mean, you read the Gospels,
  • 00:40:35.130 --> 00:40:37.140
  • he was casting out demons
  • 00:40:37.140 --> 00:40:39.090
  • everywhere he went.
  • 00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:40.190
  • So in the same way you accepted
  • 00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:42.100
  • Jesus, you say now, "Wow, I
  • 00:40:42.100 --> 00:40:45.070
  • realize I'm in bondage in area."
  • 00:40:45.070 --> 00:40:46.280
  • Jesus is still the answer.
  • 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.270
  • You cry out to Jesus.
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  • That's it.
  • 00:40:49.170 --> 00:40:50.070
  • It's Jesus, you just
  • 00:40:50.070 --> 00:40:50.270
  • call out to him.
  • 00:40:50.270 --> 00:40:51.170
  • He can still set you free
  • 00:40:51.170 --> 00:40:52.140
  • just like that.
  • 00:40:52.140 --> 00:40:53.180
  • Just like that.
  • 00:40:53.180 --> 00:40:54.080
  • Now do you need to be discipled
  • 00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:55.170
  • and learn God's Word,
  • 00:40:55.170 --> 00:40:56.120
  • renew your mind?
  • 00:40:56.120 --> 00:40:57.020
  • Yes, but he can set you free
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  • from the demonic spirit.
  • 00:40:58.130 --> 00:40:59.290
  • Here's what happens.
  • 00:40:59.290 --> 00:41:01.080
  • Sometimes, you don't even have
  • 00:41:01.080 --> 00:41:02.100
  • the choice to do what's right.
  • 00:41:02.100 --> 00:41:04.110
  • I'm telling you Jesus can take
  • 00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:06.030
  • the spirit away, the demonic
  • 00:41:06.030 --> 00:41:07.160
  • spirit, so you now have the
  • 00:41:07.160 --> 00:41:08.220
  • choice to do what's right.
  • 00:41:08.220 --> 00:41:11.030
  • And one example from Scripture,
  • 00:41:11.030 --> 00:41:13.040
  • Mark 5, the Gadarene demoniac,
  • 00:41:13.040 --> 00:41:15.240
  • we call him.
  • 00:41:15.240 --> 00:41:16.140
  • He had a legion of demons,
  • 00:41:16.140 --> 00:41:17.130
  • that's over 6.000
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  • Roman soldiers.
  • 00:41:18.150 --> 00:41:19.060
  • Legion's a Roman word.
  • 00:41:19.060 --> 00:41:20.170
  • All these demons, it says he
  • 00:41:20.210 --> 00:41:23.210
  • lived in the cemetery and he was
  • 00:41:23.210 --> 00:41:25.270
  • cutting himself, he was naked,
  • 00:41:25.270 --> 00:41:27.280
  • no clothes, okay, so you
  • 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.150
  • probably don't live in
  • 00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:30.150
  • a cemetery, you probably don't,
  • 00:41:30.150 --> 00:41:31.290
  • you know, run around naked,
  • 00:41:31.290 --> 00:41:33.290
  • probably, okay.
  • 00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:35.140
  • So that guy was more demonized
  • 00:41:35.140 --> 00:41:38.140
  • than you and here's
  • 00:41:38.140 --> 00:41:40.250
  • what it says.
  • 00:41:40.250 --> 00:41:41.150
  • This is the greatest--
  • 00:41:41.150 --> 00:41:42.050
  • one of the greatest verses
  • 00:41:42.050 --> 00:41:42.250
  • in the Bible.
  • 00:41:42.250 --> 00:41:44.060
  • "But when he saw Jesus
  • 00:41:44.060 --> 00:41:46.180
  • he ran and worshiped him."
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  • Here's what I want to tell you.
  • 00:41:50.010 --> 00:41:51.220
  • If Satan could have stopped
  • 00:41:51.220 --> 00:41:52.270
  • anyone, he could have stopped
  • 00:41:52.270 --> 00:41:53.250
  • that guy.
  • 00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:55.050
  • Satan does not have the power to
  • 00:41:55.050 --> 00:41:57.260
  • stop you from coming to Jesus.
  • 00:41:57.260 --> 00:42:00.220
  • That's the truth from
  • 00:42:00.220 --> 00:42:01.240
  • that Scripture.
  • 00:42:01.240 --> 00:42:04.100
  • God gave you choice.
  • 00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:07.010
  • So God gave us a will
  • 00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:09.220
  • so we can choose.
  • 00:42:09.220 --> 00:42:10.260
  • So you can choose right now to
  • 00:42:10.260 --> 00:42:12.010
  • say, "I'm tired of pornography.
  • 00:42:12.010 --> 00:42:14.120
  • I'm tired of anger.
  • 00:42:14.120 --> 00:42:16.110
  • I'm tired of bitterness.
  • 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:17.160
  • I'm tired of unforgiveness,
  • 00:42:17.160 --> 00:42:18.200
  • resentment.
  • 00:42:18.200 --> 00:42:19.120
  • I'm tired of hate and malice
  • 00:42:19.120 --> 00:42:21.040
  • and envy and jealousy.
  • 00:42:21.040 --> 00:42:22.230
  • I'm tired of these things.
  • 00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:24.060
  • I'm tired of a food addiction.
  • 00:42:24.060 --> 00:42:26.110
  • I'm tired of an addiction to
  • 00:42:26.110 --> 00:42:27.180
  • prescribed medication.
  • 00:42:27.180 --> 00:42:28.240
  • I'm tired of this.
  • 00:42:28.240 --> 00:42:30.180
  • I'm tired of a prescription
  • 00:42:30.180 --> 00:42:31.220
  • of drugs.
  • 00:42:31.220 --> 00:42:32.130
  • I'm tired of living
  • 00:42:32.130 --> 00:42:33.150
  • a double life.
  • 00:42:33.150 --> 00:42:34.200
  • I'm tired of it, and I need
  • 00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:36.080
  • you to set me free, Jesus."
  • 00:42:36.080 --> 00:42:38.100
  • In the very same way,
  • 00:42:38.100 --> 00:42:39.130
  • he set people free immediately.
  • 00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:42.210
  • The little boy that the spirit
  • 00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:44.050
  • would throw him down, even into
  • 00:42:44.050 --> 00:42:46.010
  • the fire and the water, and try
  • 00:42:46.010 --> 00:42:47.100
  • to burn him and kill him, Jesus
  • 00:42:47.100 --> 00:42:49.160
  • set him free, just like that.
  • 00:42:49.160 --> 00:42:50.200
  • Just like that.
  • 00:42:50.200 --> 00:42:52.240
  • So I want you to know he can and
  • 00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:55.010
  • will set you free right now.
  • 00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:56.170
  • So I want to lead you in
  • 00:42:56.170 --> 00:42:58.100
  • a prayer.
  • 00:42:58.100 --> 00:42:59.010
  • Then I want to pray for you.
  • 00:42:59.010 --> 00:43:00.080
  • So if that's you, if there's an
  • 00:43:00.080 --> 00:43:02.230
  • area of your life where you need
  • 00:43:02.230 --> 00:43:04.050
  • to be set free, I want you just
  • 00:43:04.050 --> 00:43:06.110
  • for a moment, just close your
  • 00:43:06.110 --> 00:43:07.130
  • eyes, so you have a moment
  • 00:43:07.130 --> 00:43:08.140
  • alone with God.
  • 00:43:08.140 --> 00:43:09.050
  • Just close your eyes.
  • 00:43:09.050 --> 00:43:10.000
  • I'll close mine.
  • 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:10.230
  • And just confess that area
  • 00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:14.070
  • to the Lord.
  • 00:43:14.070 --> 00:43:15.100
  • Whatever that area is, confess
  • 00:43:15.100 --> 00:43:17.120
  • that to the Lord, all right?
  • 00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:19.040
  • Whatever it is, just--if
  • 00:43:19.040 --> 00:43:20.030
  • it's lust or pride or anger
  • 00:43:20.040 --> 00:43:23.040
  • or insecurity, inferiority,
  • 00:43:23.040 --> 00:43:25.100
  • bitterness, unforgiveness,
  • 00:43:25.100 --> 00:43:26.160
  • resentment, whatever it is,
  • 00:43:26.160 --> 00:43:27.240
  • confess it to the Lord.
  • 00:43:27.240 --> 00:43:28.220
  • And just say to the Lord,
  • 00:43:28.220 --> 00:43:30.110
  • "I want to be free."
  • 00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:31.070
  • So just tell him that,
  • 00:43:31.070 --> 00:43:32.160
  • even if it's in your heart.
  • 00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:33.140
  • If you want to say it out loud,
  • 00:43:33.140 --> 00:43:34.120
  • you can say out loud.
  • 00:43:34.120 --> 00:43:35.080
  • Just say, "I want to be free.
  • 00:43:35.080 --> 00:43:36.050
  • Please set me free, Jesus."
  • 00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:38.260
  • And I want to pray for you.
  • 00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:39.240
  • Lord, thank you that
  • 00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:41.170
  • you're not only the Savior,
  • 00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:43.240
  • you're the deliverer.
  • 00:43:43.240 --> 00:43:45.160
  • You came to preach the
  • 00:43:45.160 --> 00:43:46.110
  • acceptable year of the Lord and
  • 00:43:46.110 --> 00:43:47.240
  • you came to proclaim--preach
  • 00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:49.040
  • deliverance to the captives.
  • 00:43:50.090 --> 00:43:53.090
  • It's all through your Word.
  • 00:43:53.090 --> 00:43:55.010
  • You set your people free from
  • 00:43:55.010 --> 00:43:57.210
  • the Egyptians, from those who
  • 00:43:57.210 --> 00:43:59.220
  • held them in bondage, and then
  • 00:43:59.220 --> 00:44:02.040
  • you buried their captors
  • 00:44:02.040 --> 00:44:04.120
  • in the sea.
  • 00:44:04.120 --> 00:44:05.190
  • So, Lord, right now in Jesus'
  • 00:44:05.190 --> 00:44:07.110
  • name, I'm asking you to do what
  • 00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:08.150
  • you've--what you always do, that
  • 00:44:08.150 --> 00:44:10.230
  • you're the same yesterday,
  • 00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:12.090
  • today, and forever.
  • 00:44:12.090 --> 00:44:13.150
  • You cast demons out of people
  • 00:44:13.150 --> 00:44:15.150
  • when you were on this earth and
  • 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:17.020
  • so right now, in Jesus' name,
  • 00:44:17.020 --> 00:44:19.010
  • I take authority over every
  • 00:44:19.010 --> 00:44:21.190
  • demonic spirit that's coming
  • 00:44:21.190 --> 00:44:23.160
  • against or holding my brothers
  • 00:44:23.160 --> 00:44:25.080
  • and sisters in bondage in Jesus'
  • 00:44:25.080 --> 00:44:27.020
  • name, and I command you to go
  • 00:44:27.020 --> 00:44:29.120
  • right now in Jesus' name.
  • 00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:31.150
  • Right now, in Jesus' name, every
  • 00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:33.110
  • spirit of pride, lust, anger,
  • 00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:36.070
  • envy, malice, hate, murder,
  • 00:44:37.110 --> 00:44:40.110
  • unforgiveness, bitterness,
  • 00:44:40.110 --> 00:44:42.150
  • all types of sexual immorality,
  • 00:44:42.150 --> 00:44:44.170
  • pornography, drugs, addictions,
  • 00:44:44.230 --> 00:44:47.230
  • alcoholism, I command you
  • 00:44:47.230 --> 00:44:49.180
  • to go right now in Jesus' name.
  • 00:44:49.240 --> 00:44:52.240
  • Right now in Jesus' name.
  • 00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:54.190
  • And the great thing is that when
  • 00:44:54.190 --> 00:44:56.130
  • you say "Jesus," demons have to
  • 00:44:56.130 --> 00:44:59.050
  • leave.
  • 00:44:59.050 --> 00:44:59.250
  • They have to, in Jesus' name.
  • 00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:02.090
  • And now, Lord I ask you to do
  • 00:45:02.090 --> 00:45:04.120
  • for my brothers and sisters what
  • 00:45:04.120 --> 00:45:05.240
  • you did for the disciples in the
  • 00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:07.040
  • Upper Room, what you did for the
  • 00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:09.000
  • Samaritans in Acts 8, what you
  • 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.150
  • did for the disciples in Acts
  • 00:45:10.150 --> 00:45:11.180
  • 19, the Gentiles in Acts 10.
  • 00:45:11.260 --> 00:45:14.260
  • I ask you to fill us with the
  • 00:45:14.260 --> 00:45:17.190
  • Holy Spirit from the top of our
  • 00:45:17.190 --> 00:45:19.280
  • heads to the bottom of our feet,
  • 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.090
  • figuratively, that you fill our
  • 00:45:21.090 --> 00:45:22.240
  • entire beings, that you fill us
  • 00:45:22.240 --> 00:45:25.030
  • to overflowing with the Holy
  • 00:45:25.030 --> 00:45:27.080
  • Spirit and every place where the
  • 00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:29.010
  • enemy has left, fill with
  • 00:45:29.010 --> 00:45:30.100
  • the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:45:30.100 --> 00:45:31.120
  • Every place the unholy spirit's
  • 00:45:31.120 --> 00:45:32.270
  • left, fill with the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:45:32.270 --> 00:45:35.080
  • Fill us with your Spirit, with
  • 00:45:35.080 --> 00:45:37.050
  • your power, with your love, and
  • 00:45:37.050 --> 00:45:39.050
  • I thank you for it, in Jesus'
  • 00:45:39.050 --> 00:45:41.150
  • name, amen and amen and amen.
  • 00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:45.240
  • - Matt: Thank you, Lord.
  • 00:45:45.240 --> 00:45:47.180
  • Wow, you know, sometimes,
  • 00:45:50.040 --> 00:45:53.040
  • Christian TV just talks about it
  • 00:45:53.070 --> 00:45:56.070
  • instead of just doing it.
  • 00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:58.000
  • So thank you for doing Christian
  • 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.290
  • TV not just talking about it.
  • 00:46:00.290 --> 00:46:02.230
  • Now, look, I'm just telling you,
  • 00:46:02.230 --> 00:46:05.110
  • the book, you've been sitting,
  • 00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:08.110
  • experiencing the same teaching
  • 00:46:08.110 --> 00:46:10.220
  • that we're all experiencing.
  • 00:46:10.220 --> 00:46:13.000
  • And I wanna reset also and just
  • 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.180
  • say that, Pastor Robert, these
  • 00:46:15.180 --> 00:46:17.130
  • subjects, you're teaching on
  • 00:46:17.130 --> 00:46:19.170
  • the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:46:19.170 --> 00:46:20.290
  • It's the best one
  • 00:46:20.290 --> 00:46:21.190
  • I've ever heard.
  • 00:46:21.190 --> 00:46:22.090
  • You know, this kind of teaching
  • 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:23.170
  • is the most balanced I've heard.
  • 00:46:23.170 --> 00:46:25.290
  • You can't cast out the will of
  • 00:46:25.290 --> 00:46:27.260
  • somebody and you can't deliver
  • 00:46:27.260 --> 00:46:30.200
  • or disciple a demon, okay?
  • 00:46:30.200 --> 00:46:32.200
  • So the idea that you bring
  • 00:46:32.200 --> 00:46:34.250
  • balance to all of this stuff is
  • 00:46:34.250 --> 00:46:37.200
  • truly amazing and, look, it's
  • 00:46:38.110 --> 00:46:41.110
  • a--love the fact that you're
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  • part of the pillars of TBN and
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  • what we're messaging to
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  • the world, so.
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  • But I wanna just reset here for
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  • just one second again and just
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  • say, we got a few minutes left,
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  • we're gonna have a final thought
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  • on this.
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  • But Robert Morris is "The
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  • Blessed Life" guy.
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  • He's the guy with "The Blessed
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  • Life," okay?
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  • We have a little clip that'll
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  • refresh your memory.
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  • Watch this.
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  • This is Robert Morris,
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  • This is Robert Morris,
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  • - Robert: God wants to prosper
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  • you, to make you successful
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  • in your life, in your marriage,
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  • in your family, in your health,
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  • in your job, in your career,
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  • in your finances.
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  • He wants to prosper you
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  • He wants to prosper you
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  • - Robert: The key to prospering
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  • is the presence of the Lord.
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  • The key to the presence of
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  • the Lord is obedience.
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  • The key to obedience is faith.
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  • The key to faith is hearing
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  • the Word.
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  • Get in the Word of God, read the
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  • Word yourself, memorize the Word
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  • of God.
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  • The Word has the power to change
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  • your life.
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  • your life.
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  • [audience applaud
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  • [audience applaudin
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  • - Matt: We get to message
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  • "The Blessed Life."
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  • We don't give to get,
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  • we get to give.
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  • That's the messaging
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  • that we're doing now.
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  • Trinity Broadcasting is so proud
  • 00:48:40.120 --> 00:48:42.200
  • of Robert Morris and Debbie and
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  • but the entire work there in
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  • the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex.
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  • - Robert: Six.
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  • - Matt: Six campuses.
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  • Thirty-nine thousand active
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  • members attend
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  • Robert Morris's church.
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  • When a guy that, you know, kind
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  • of pastors that many people
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  • wants to tell you something for
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  • free, you might wanna listen.
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  • And so there's a lot of
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  • things--we wanna put a little
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  • bit of a kind of a conclusion on
  • 00:49:12.190 --> 00:49:15.190
  • this, maybe a little bit of
  • 00:49:15.190 --> 00:49:17.070
  • a counseling session, and
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  • a question came in from just
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  • "What's the difference between
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  • kind of just your flesh wanting
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  • to go do something, you know,
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  • when the Krispy Kreme light is
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  • on and it says 'hot,' you know,
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  • that kind of thing, and being
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  • Do you know a difference?
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  • What--"
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  • - Robert: Yeah, I really do.
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  • I think it's
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  • when there's bondage.
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  • It's when you don't have your
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  • choice anymore.
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  • You don't have a will
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  • in the situation.
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  • You have said to God
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  • a thousand times,
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  • "I'll never do that again.
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  • I'll never do it again," and you
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  • just--you feel like your choice
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  • has been taken away from you.
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  • In other words, there's
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  • something possessing
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  • you to do it.
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  • - Matt: That drives you
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  • kind of thing.
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  • - Robert: That's right, and
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  • I think then, yes, we need to be
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  • discipled, but I think we need
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  • a supernatural touch from God to
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  • set us free from that thing
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  • that's holding us in bondage.
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  • - Matt: So if you feel like you
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  • don't have a choice anymore,
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  • you know, this--
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  • - Laurie: I think there's a lot
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  • of people that do have a choice
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  • and they blame it on the devil.
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  • - Robert: Yeah, there are.
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  • - Matt: Flip Wilson theology,
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  • "The devil made me do it,"
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  • you know.
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  • - Robert: There are.
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  • There are and that
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  • is exactly true.
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  • - Laurie: We're just gonna, you
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  • know, blame the devil for all of
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  • our bad attitudes and so where
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  • do we draw the line there?
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  • Because I know--I normally know
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  • when I'm doing it myself.
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  • - Robert: That could actually
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  • be a demon of pride that blames
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  • the devil for everything, you
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  • know what I'm saying?
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  • And I'll say this.
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  • Satan is an opportunist.
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  • You know, he came and tempted
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  • Jesus and then it says, "He left
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  • for a more opportune time."
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  • This--he's just so good at what
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  • he does.
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  • The other thing about that's
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  • amazing is we actually have in
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  • the Bible where Satan asked for
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  • permission.
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  • Asked permission.
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  • - Matt: In Job, yeah?
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  • - Robert: Yeah, Job,
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  • and with Peter.
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  • Jesus said,
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  • "Satan has asked for you.
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  • He's asked for you."
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  • Then this is what he says:
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  • "But I've prayed for you
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  • and when you return,
  • 00:51:22.030 --> 00:51:23.280
  • strengthen your brethren."
  • 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:24.210
  • Now, wasn't like he
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  • was giving him permission.
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  • What he was saying was: "There's
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  • an area of your life, though,
  • 00:51:28.050 --> 00:51:29.150
  • that could be an open door,
  • 00:51:29.150 --> 00:51:30.210
  • Peter," and that area was pride.
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  • Because the very next thing--the
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  • very next thing that happens is
  • 00:51:34.210 --> 00:51:36.060
  • Jesus says, "Now all of you are
  • 00:51:36.060 --> 00:51:39.040
  • going to stumble tonight,
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  • because the Scripture says
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  • they're going to slay the
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  • shepherd, the sheep will be
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  • scattered.
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  • All of you are going
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  • to stumble," this is Jesus.
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  • And he quotes a Bible verse
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  • to back it up.
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  • And Peter says, "Not me.
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  • They can all stumble
  • 00:51:50.290 --> 00:51:52.220
  • but I won't."
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  • Their pride.
  • 00:51:54.020 --> 00:51:56.070
  • I mean, it's crazy.
  • 00:51:56.070 --> 00:51:57.070
  • And if--what's funny is,
  • 00:51:57.070 --> 00:51:58.070
  • Jesus says, "I want--"
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  • He wanted to say, "What part
  • 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.130
  • of 'all' do you not understand?
  • 00:52:01.130 --> 00:52:03.170
  • I said, 'all of you.'"
  • 00:52:03.170 --> 00:52:04.270
  • So he says to them,
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  • "Three times,
  • 00:52:06.240 --> 00:52:07.280
  • you're going to deny me tonight.
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  • I just need you to know that."
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  • Of course, Peter's humbled
  • 00:52:10.140 --> 00:52:12.050
  • through it and he becomes
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  • the pillar of the church, the
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  • one who stands up at Pentecost.
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  • It's great.
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  • But the enemy had a stronghold.
  • 00:52:18.040 --> 00:52:20.180
  • In his life was an open door.
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  • Jesus still set him free.
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  • - Laurie: Okay, how can we as
  • 00:52:25.170 --> 00:52:26.230
  • believers close those doors and
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  • what's our number one defense
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  • against all of that?
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  • - Robert: Our number one
  • 00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:36.120
  • defense is the Word of God.
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  • Jesus did it three times.
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  • Every time Satan came against
  • 00:52:40.050 --> 00:52:41.240
  • him, Jesus replied--every time,
  • 00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:44.100
  • read it, "It is written."
  • 00:52:44.100 --> 00:52:45.280
  • - Laurie: Spoke truth to a lie.
  • 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.220
  • - Robert: "It is written,
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  • it is written."
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  • It is written, it is written,
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  • it is written, every time.
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  • - Matt: I've heard it described
  • 00:52:52.210 --> 00:52:54.010
  • that basically all the devil
  • 00:52:54.010 --> 00:52:55.020
  • ever does is lie to you.
  • 00:52:55.020 --> 00:52:57.130
  • And says, like in the wilderness
  • 00:52:57.130 --> 00:53:00.030
  • experience, he lied three times.
  • 00:53:00.030 --> 00:53:01.280
  • Jesus simply spoke the truth to
  • 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.060
  • lies, so warfare is knowing the
  • 00:53:04.060 --> 00:53:06.150
  • truth so that you may be free.
  • 00:53:06.150 --> 00:53:09.000
  • - Robert: Goes all the way back
  • 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.100
  • to John 8 where we started:
  • 00:53:10.100 --> 00:53:11.040
  • "You will know the truth and
  • 00:53:11.040 --> 00:53:12.240
  • the truth will make you free."
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  • Satan always does lie.
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  • First thing he said to Adam
  • 00:53:15.290 --> 00:53:17.080
  • God said, "You'll die if
  • 00:53:19.290 --> 00:53:20.250
  • you eat this tree."
  • 00:53:20.250 --> 00:53:21.150
  • He said,
  • 00:53:21.150 --> 00:53:22.050
  • "You will not surely die."
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  • First thing he did
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  • was question the Word of God
  • 00:53:24.160 --> 00:53:26.000
  • and if he can get you to
  • 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:27.070
  • question God's Word, of any
  • 00:53:27.070 --> 00:53:28.150
  • doubt, if he can get you to
  • 00:53:28.150 --> 00:53:29.100
  • believe a lie, now he's
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  • on the way to getting you
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  • to go under bondage.
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  • - Matt: "Whom the Son
  • 00:53:33.260 --> 00:53:34.250
  • makes free is free indeed."
  • 00:53:34.250 --> 00:53:36.080
  • from freedom and not bondage.
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  • - Robert: That's correct.
  • 00:53:40.020 --> 00:53:40.260
  • - Matt: That is kind of the way
  • 00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:42.250
  • that Laurie and I interpret
  • 00:53:42.250 --> 00:53:45.000
  • what we've been talking about.
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  • And it has nothing to do with
  • 00:53:46.220 --> 00:53:48.010
  • your vertical relationship.
  • 00:53:48.010 --> 00:53:50.030
  • It's your horizontal, you know.
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  • If you sin, you know, that
  • 00:53:53.160 --> 00:53:56.160
  • doesn't affect your vertical
  • 00:53:56.160 --> 00:53:58.260
  • relationship but if you punch
  • 00:53:58.260 --> 00:54:01.020
  • a cop in the face you're gonna
  • 00:54:01.020 --> 00:54:02.250
  • end up with handcuffs in
  • 00:54:02.250 --> 00:54:05.020
  • the back of a police car.
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  • So you can screw your life up
  • 00:54:06.170 --> 00:54:08.000
  • all you want but you're not
  • 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.050
  • screwing it up vertically
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  • because Jesus,
  • 00:54:12.050 --> 00:54:13.070
  • that's a free gift.
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  • And that's where we have screwed
  • 00:54:14.050 --> 00:54:16.090
  • that up, you know, that we have
  • 00:54:16.090 --> 00:54:17.210
  • messed, you know, completely
  • 00:54:17.210 --> 00:54:18.290
  • messed that up.
  • 00:54:18.290 --> 00:54:19.270
  • Now, I wanna say also and you've
  • 00:54:19.270 --> 00:54:22.070
  • got a couple of minutes just and
  • 00:54:22.070 --> 00:54:23.170
  • I want you to finish--I want you
  • 00:54:23.170 --> 00:54:26.070
  • to have the last couple of
  • 00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:26.270
  • minutes but, you know, I've
  • 00:54:26.270 --> 00:54:28.290
  • heard on Christian TV somebody
  • 00:54:28.290 --> 00:54:30.220
  • blame the devil so much that
  • 00:54:30.220 --> 00:54:32.260
  • "a spirit of jezebel came into
  • 00:54:32.260 --> 00:54:34.200
  • my church and caused havoc and
  • 00:54:34.200 --> 00:54:36.120
  • then left and we didn't even
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  • know she was there," and all
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  • that; well, then, you have no
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  • okay?
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  • So if you wanna go with that
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  • level of spooky weirdness,
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  • then you're just spooky
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  • and you're weird, okay?
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  • So the idea that you don't take
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  • some responsibility in regard to
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  • this, that's where the balance
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  • comes from with "Truly Free."
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  • In the last couple of minutes,
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  • you're, you know, all you ever
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  • ask for in the green room
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  • is the last word
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  • so I'm giving it to you.
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  • And so why and what do you want
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  • the people to experience
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  • when they get truly free?
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  • I want you to talk to them.
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  • You wrote it.
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  • You know what it is.
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  • How is it gonna help them?
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  • - Robert: It is for freedom
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  • that Christ set us free.
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  • He set us free.
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  • And yet the enemy comes
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  • in and lies.
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  • That puts us in bondage, and
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  • I want to comment on one thing.
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  • The culpability that we have,
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  • instead of blaming everything
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  • on the devil.
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  • "Jezebel's spirit came in, did
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  • this, we didn't even know it."
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  • No, Jesus addressed that
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  • specifically to the church
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  • and said, "You tolerated it.
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  • You tolerated
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  • that woman Jezebel."
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  • So that's the point.
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  • Don't tolerate sin in your life.
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  • Don't tolerate a spirit.
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  • Don't tolerate any spirit that
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  • questions God's Word.
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  • - Matt: Wow, beautiful.
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  • Wow, wow, wow.
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  • This is an amazing
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  • broadcast today.
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  • I have been thrilled to be
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  • a part of it, partly because
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  • the lighting made my hair
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  • look darker than his.
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  • And so I'm really excited about
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  • that today.
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  • Love you guys.
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  • Debbie, just say something so
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  • that they know you have a voice.
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  • - Debbie: We love you.
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  • We love everybody on
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  • the Trinity Broadcast Network
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  • that's watching,
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  • so thank you very much.
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  • - Matt: Final word?
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  • - Robert: Same.
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  • We love you guys very,
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  • very much, and God loves you.
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  • - Matt: Okay.
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  • We are truly free.
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  • Get the book.
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  • We'll see you next time.
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  • God bless.
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