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Changing the Narrative | Episode 14

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July 12, 2018
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - MY NAME IS PAUL YOUNG, AND I'M THE AUTHOR OF THE SHACK.
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  • I WANT TO INVITE YOU ON AN ADVENTURE WITH ME AND
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  • WITH THE BOOK.
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  • A LOT OF YOU HAVE READ IT.
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  • YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
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  • SOME OF YOU HAVE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT AND YOU
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  • HAVE QUESTIONS.
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  • THIS IS A BOOK THAT ALLOWS US TO EXPLORE RELATIONSHIP
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  • WITH THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, QUESTIONS THAT WE
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  • HAVE ABOUT HURT AND LOSS AND GRIEF, QUESTIONS
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  • ABOUT WONDER AND BEAUTY AND JOY.
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  • WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO LIVE A LIFE OF FAITH?
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  • WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT DEATH?
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  • WHY DO TRAGIC THINGS HAPPEN TO US?
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  • THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO EXPLORE,
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  • AND I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME WITH ME.
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  • THIS IS AN INVITATION.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - PAUL YOUNG: SOMETIMES AS A WRITER, YOU GET
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  • CAUGHT BY SURPRISE.
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  • YOU'RE WORKING ON A SCENE, YOU'RE FOLLOWING
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  • THE CHARACTERS, AND THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENS.
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  • I WAS WORKING ON CHAPTER SIX WHEN A BIRD FLEW INTO
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  • THE SCENE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHY.
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  • I WAS SITTING THERE GOING LIKE, WHAT'S THIS BIRD DOING?
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  • AND THEN A CONVERSATION HAPPENS BETWEEN MACKENZIE
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  • AND PAPA GOD, AND THAT BIRD BECOMES
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  • ABSOLUTELY PIVOTAL.
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  • THE CONVERSATION IS ABOUT PAIN AND LOSS AND HOW
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  • POSITIVE PAIN IS A WAY OF CLIPPING OUR WINGS.
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  • I WANT TO READ YOU A LITTLE PIECE NEAR THE END
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  • OF THAT CONVERSATION.
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  • MACKENZIE, I CAN FLY, BUT HUMANS CAN'T.
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  • JESUS IS FULLY HUMAN.
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  • ALTHOUGH HE IS FULLY GOD, HE HAS NEVER DRAWN UPON
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  • HIS NATURE AS GOD TO DO ANYTHING.
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  • HE HAS ONLY LIVED OUT OF HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH ME,
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  • LIVING IN THE VERY SAME MANNER THAT I DESIRE TO
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  • BE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERY HUMAN BEING.
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  • HE IS JUST THE FIRST TO DO IT TO THE UTTERMOST,
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  • THE FIRST TO ABSOLUTELY TRUST MY LIFE WITHIN HIM,
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  • THE FIRST TO BELIEVE IN MY LOVE AND MY GOODNESS
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  • WITHOUT REGARD TO APPEARANCE OR CONSEQUENCE.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • SO I GREW UP IN A WORLD THAT WAS QUITE RELIGIOUS,
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  • FUNDAMENTAL, EVANGELICAL, AND QUESTIONS
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  • WEREN'T ENCOURAGED.
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  • IN FACT, WHEN YOU ASKED REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS,
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  • OFTEN TIMES YOU'D GET A VERSE QUOTED.
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  • IT WAS REBELLION IS WORSE THAN WITCHCRAFT, SO IT
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  • WASN'T EXACTLY AN ENCOURAGING ENVIRONMENT
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  • FOR QUESTIONS, BUT OVER THE YEARS I'VE LEARNED TO
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  • LOVE QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T THINK GOD IS AFRAID
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  • OF QUESTIONS AT ALL.
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  • THERE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS, AND ONE
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  • REALLY GOOD QUESTION IS WORTH A THOUSAND ANSWERS,
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  • SO THIS RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BIBLE AND ABOUT
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  • THE OLD TESTAMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE NEW
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  • TESTAMENT, ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD, IS THAT THE BIBLE?
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  • OR IS THE WORD OF GOD JESUS?
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  • AND THOSE QUESTIONS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
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  • SO LET'S SAY THIS RIGHT FROM THE START, JOHN'S
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  • GOSPEL BEGINS WITH, "IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD.
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  • THE WORD WAS WITH GOD.
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  • THE WORD WAS GOD."
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  • IT DOESN'T SAY THE BIBLE.
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  • IN THE BEGINNING IT'S NOT THE BIBLE.
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  • THE BIBLE WASN'T WITH GOD.
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  • THE BIBLE ISN'T GOD.
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  • AND I LOVE SCRIPTURE.
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  • DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE AN
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  • ENCOUNTER WITH THE LIVING JESUS, ALL THE WORDS IN
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  • THE WORLD AREN'T GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
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  • YOU REMEMBER PAUL THE APOSTLE?
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  • WELL, HE WAS AN OLD TESTAMENT SCHOLAR.
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  • NOT JUST ANY OLD SCHOLAR, HE WAS ONE OF THE UP AND
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  • COMING RISING YOUNG LIONS OF THE JEWISH
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  • SCHOLASTIC COMMUNITY.
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  • HE KNEW THE OLD TESTAMENT, AND WHEN HE
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  • HAD AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE LIVING JESUS, IT CHANGED
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  • THE WAY HE INTERPRETED THE OLD TESTAMENT.
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  • EVERYTHING CHANGES WITH AN ENCOUNTER WITH JESUS,
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  • AND WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE SWITCH IN THE NARRATIVE,
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  • A LITTLE CHANGE IN THE POINT OF VIEW,
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  • EVERYTHING CHANGES.
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  • HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN IN A CONVERSATION
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  • ABOUT SOME FAMILY MEMBER OR ABOUT SOMETHING YOU
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  • KNOW, AND YOU THOUGHT THIS FOR SURE, AND
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  • EVERYTHING BECOMES THIS HUGE RUCKUS, AND THEN YOU
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  • FIND OUT SOME LITTLE TURN OF WHAT THE SITUATION
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  • REALLY WAS AND IT CHANGED YOUR INTERPRETATION
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  • OF EVERYTHING?
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  • WELL, THAT HAPPENS.
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  • IT HAPPENS THE WAY WE LOOK AT SCRIPTURE.
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  • A LOT OF TIMES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IT SEEMS THAT
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  • GOD IS VERY ANGRY AND DISTANCE AND
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  • UNAPPROACHABLE AND FURIOUS MOST OF THE TIME,
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  • AND ALTHOUGH YOU'LL FIND A VERY GREAT BLEND EVEN
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  • IN TERMS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, AND THEN YOU
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  • HAVE JESUS WHO TURNS THE OTHER CHEEK, WHO WALKS A
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  • SECOND MILE, AND YOU'RE GOING LIKE, IS GOD SORT
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  • OF A SPLIT PERSONALITY?
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  • IF JESUS IS GOD, THEN HOW DO YOU WORK THIS STUFF OUT?
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  • WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND ONE THAT
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  • INVOLVES A LOT OF US IN TERMS OF COMING UP INSIDE
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  • THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE SCHOLARS
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  • THAT ARE ALL WORKING ON THIS.
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  • THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE,
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  • THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES, THE CHRISTIAN NEW
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  • TESTAMENT THEY'RE A REVELATION OF THE
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  • CHARACTER AND NATURE OF GOD, NO DOUBT.
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  • BUT THEY'RE ALSO A REVELATION OF HUMAN
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  • BEINGS, WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW WE THINK, WHERE WE'RE
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  • STUCK, WHAT WE IMAGINE ABOUT THE CHARACTER AND
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  • NATURE OF GOD.
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  • SO PAUL, THIS JEWISH SCHOLAR OF THE OLD
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  • TESTAMENT, HAS AN ENCOUNTER THAT CHANGES
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  • HIS ABILITY TO INTERPRET.
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  • YOU REMEMBER HE WRITES THIS LINE, BUT HE KIND OF
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  • MISQUOTES IT.
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  • NOT REALLY.
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  • HE JUST LEAVES SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY FUNDAMENTAL
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  • OUT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE HE'S NOT A DUMB MAN, AND
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  • HE IS SCHOLAR.
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  • AND HE QUOTES A LINE FROM THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES
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  • THAT IS A HUGELY IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT
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  • LINE, AND THAT IS IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES, CURSED
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  • BY GOD IS ANYONE WHO HANGS ON THE TREE.
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  • WELL, WHEN PAUL QUOTES IT, HE LEAVES OUT TWO WORDS.
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  • HE JUST SAYS CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE.
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  • HE IS ALTERING AN INTERPRETATION AND HE'S
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  • SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WITH RESPECT TO JESUS IT WASN'T GOD WHO CURSED JESUS.
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  • WE DID, BUT NOT GOD.
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  • ONE LITTLE CHANGE IN THE NARRATIVE BEGINS TO OPEN
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  • UP A WORLD OF QUESTIONS.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - CAR LEAVES IN 20 SECONDS.
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  • - WE GOT TO GO.
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  • LET'S GO.
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  • - DO YOU THINK THE PRINCESS SHOULD HAVE A RED DRESS
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  • LIKE MINE?
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  • - RED IT IS.
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  • - WHERE'S MISSY?
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  • - MISSY!
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  • - WHERE'S MISSY?
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  • - SORRY, MACK.
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  • I HAVEN'T SEEN HER.
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  • - MISSY! MISSY!
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  • [SIREN BLARES]
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  • - I WAS SCARED BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
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  • - GROUND TEAMS FOUND A TRUCK IN THE MOUNTAINS!
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  • I'M REALLY SORRY, MR. PHILLIPS.
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  • [SCREAMING]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - WANT SOME HELP OVER THERE.
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  • - I'M OKAY.
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  • - HOW ABOUT SOME DINNER TONIGHT?
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  • - MAYBE NEXT TIME.
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  • [SCREAMING]
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  • I'M SORRY.
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  • I'M SO SORRY.
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  • - WE'VE LOST SO MUCH ALREADY.
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  • I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU, TOO.
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  • - A LETTER SHOWED UP PH MY MAILBOX WITH NO TRACKS
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  • IN THE SNOW.
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  • - YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT GOING BACK THERE,
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  • ARE YOU?
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  • - I GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
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  • - YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T A GOOD IDEA.
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  • - IT'S CRAZY, BUT THIS IS ALL I GOT.
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  • - GOT A FIRE GOING INSIDE IF YOU WANT TO WARM UP.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - MACKENZIE ALLEN PHILLIPS.
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  • I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
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  • - DO I KNOW YOU?
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  • - NOT VERY WELL, BUT WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
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  • - THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
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  • - ARE YOU STILL HAVING A HARD TIME BELIEVING
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  • THIS IS REAL?
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  • - WHY DID YOU BRING ME HERE?
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  • - THERE'S NO EASY ANSWER THAT WILL TAKE YOUR PAIN AWAY.
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  • - WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU?
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  • - I NEVER LEFT YOU.
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  • I NEVER LEFT MISSY.
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  • AIN'T IT JUST LIKE A TEAR TO GO AND BLUR ...
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  • YOU WANT ME TO FORGIVE HIM.
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  • I WANT HIM TO HURT LIKE HE HURT ME.
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  • - YOU WANT THE PROMISE OF A PAIN FREE LIFE.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - THERE ISN'T ONE.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - YOU CAN DO THIS.
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  • - I CAN'T.
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  • - ON YOUR OWN YOU CAN'T.
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  • - THIS IS YOUR FLYING LESSON.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - I BELIEVE YOU.
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  • KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME ...
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  • KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME ...
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GET ASKED A
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  • LOT IS, I'VE READ THE BOOK A BUNCH OF TIMES,
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  • AND EVERY TIME I READ IT I GET
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  • SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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  • MY RESPONSE IS, WELL, YOU MOVED.
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  • A LOT OF TIMES WE BEGIN TO SEE SOMETHING
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  • DIFFERENTLY AS OUR LIVES CHANGE.
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  • WE BEGIN TO HEAR SOMETHING, SO DOES JESUS
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  • THEN DOES NOT HAVE THE GOD CARD UP HIS SLEEVE?
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  • BECAUSE WE TEND TO THINK OF THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW,
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  • HE'S GOD.
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  • BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
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  • THE POINT IS HE IS THE FIRST TO LIVE BY FAITH
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  • COMPLETELY AS A HUMAN BEING.
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  • HE TRUSTED THE FATHER.
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  • HE TRUSTED THE GOODNESS OF THE FATHER.
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  • AND WE'VE GOT TO LET THAT KIND OF UNDERSTANDING
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  • BEGIN TO SINK INTO OUR OWN WAYS OF THINKING
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  • ABOUT GOD.
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  • THIS WAS A RELATIONSHIP OF TRUST.
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  • THIS WAS A RELATIONSHIP IN WHICH JESUS LISTENED
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  • TO WHAT THE FATHER WAS SAYING AND TRUSTED HIM.
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  • I THINK THAT IS THE INVITATION FOR OUR
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  • PARTICIPATION AS WELL.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - GROWING UP AS A MISSIONARY KID, WE HAD A
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  • DOMINANT NARRATIVE.
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  • ONE OF THE DOMINANT NARRATIVES ABOUT WHY
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  • WOULD A PARENT SEND THEIR CHILD AWAY TO BOARDING
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  • SCHOOL OR PUT THEM IN HARM'S WAY OR QUESTIONS
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  • LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY SOLID HUMAN BEING
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  • KINDS OF QUESTIONS.
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  • WELL, WE HAD A NARRATIVE, AND ONE OF THEM, ONE OF
  • 00:11:50.010 --> 00:11:52.210
  • THE REAL KEY POINTS TO THAT NARRATIVE WAS A
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  • STORY OF ABRAHAM AND ISAAC.
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  • YOU REMEMBER THAT ABRAHAM IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE
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  • HIS SON ON THE ALTAR BECAUSE GOD TOLD HIM TO?
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  • AND YOU READ THAT STORY AND YOU'RE WONDERING,
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  • LIKE, IS THIS A GOD WHO REQUIRES CHILD SACRIFICE?
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  • IS THIS A GOD IF HE TOLD MY TO SACRIFICE ONE OF MY
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  • CHILDREN, WOULD I DO IT?
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  • NO, FRANKLY, I WOULDN'T.
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  • IF GOD TOLD ME TO SACRIFICE ONE OF MY
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  • GRANDCHILDREN, WOULD I DO IT? NO.
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  • BUT ABRAHAM DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
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  • IT, SO WHAT'S GOING ON?
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  • AND WHY THIS STORY?
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  • WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU HOW A NARRATIVE CHANGES A
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  • LITTLE BIT AND HOW THEN IT CHANGES OUR
  • 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:39.290
  • PERSPECTIVE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
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  • IF SPIRITUALITY OR AWARENESS OF GOD AND WHO
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  • WE ARE AS HUMAN BEINGS AND CREATION WAS ON A
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  • SCALE OF A TO Z, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT ABRAHAM
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  • IN GENESIS?
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  • WOULD YOU PUT HIM MORE TOWARD A OR MORE TOWARDS Z?
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  • HE COMES FROM UR OF THE CHALDEES.
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  • YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND UR, THERE'S NO CHURCHES.
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  • THERE'S NO SEMINARIES.
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  • THERE'S NO THEOLOGIANS.
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  • THERE'S A MOON GOD AND GOODNESS WORSHIPPING
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  • TEMPLE, AND THIS IS WHERE ABRAM GROWS UP, AND
  • 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:16.240
  • THAT'S HIS WORLD.
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  • SO HE'S KIND OF AT A, MAYBE WITH A FOOT IN B
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  • BECAUSE AT LEAST HE HEARS VOICES STRONG ENOUGH THAT
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  • HE LEAVES TOWN. REMEMBER?
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  • HE HEARS GOD TELL HIM TO LEAVE TOWN, AND HE
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  • DOESN'T EVEN NOWHERE HE'S GOING.
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  • BUT YOU ALSO REMEMBER HE TAKES ALONG ALL OF HIS
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  • LOCAL, GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCALIZED DEITIES WITH
  • 00:13:37.020 --> 00:13:39.190
  • HIM AND HIS WIVES AND THEY PACK UP EVERYTHING,
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  • AND THEY MOVE OUT OF TOWN.
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  • SO HE'S NOT IN A EXACTLY, BUT HE'S NOT REALLY IN B
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  • YET EITHER.
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  • HE'S SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
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  • NOW, WHEN GOD COMES TO TALK TO US, WHERE DO YOU
  • 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.080
  • THINK GOD SHOWS UP?
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  • IN Z AND YELLS AT US, HEY, I'M OVER HERE?
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  • WHEN I'M IN B, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND C.
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  • GOD'S NOT GOING TO COME TO ME IN Q OR S.
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  • HE'S GOING TO COME TO ME WITH A FOOT IN B
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  • AND A FOOT IN C.
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  • SEE, GOD IS LOVE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT LOVE
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  • IS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO THE
  • 00:14:15.160 --> 00:14:17.120
  • ONES YOU LOVE.
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  • GOD'S NOT A BAD COMMUNICATOR.
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  • WHEN THE MISSIONARIES CAME INTO THE CULTURE
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  • THAT HAD NEVER SEEN A WHITE PERSON LIKE THE ONE
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  • I GREW UP IN OR HEARD ANYTHING, THE FIRST TASK
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  • OF THE MISSIONARY IS TO LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE AND
  • 00:14:30.140 --> 00:14:33.100
  • LEARN THEIR CULTURE BECAUSE IF WE GO IN
  • 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:38.240
  • SPEAKING ENGLISH INTO A CULTURE THAT HAS NO CLUE
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  • WHAT WE'RE SAYING, FOR ALL THEY KNOW WE'RE
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  • CASTING SPELLS ON THEM OR CREATING SOME KIND OF
  • 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:50.070
  • MAGIC, AND IT DOESN'T COMMUNICATE ANYTHING.
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  • THEY DON'T KNOW.
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  • SO OUR JOB IS TO LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE.
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  • GOD COMES TO US AND SPEAKS OUR LANGUAGE.
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  • GOD DOESN'T COME TO US AND SPEAK IN THE LANGUAGE
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  • THAT WE CAN'T COMPREHEND.
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  • WE THINK THAT GOD IS SORT OF LIKE THAT SOMETIMES,
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  • BUT IT'S NOT TRUE.
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  • SO WHAT IS ABRAM'S LANGUAGE?
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  • WELL, ABRAM GREW UP IN A WORLD WHERE ALL THE GOD'S
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  • REQUIRE SACRIFICE.
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  • EVERY THEOLOGY ON THE PLANET IS APPEASEMENT
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  • THEOLOGY, THAT IS IF I DO THE RIGHT THINGS, SAY THE
  • 00:15:28.180 --> 00:15:31.260
  • RIGHT THINGS, THEN GOD IS SUPPOSED TO DO THE
  • 00:15:31.280 --> 00:15:34.210
  • RIGHT THINGS.
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  • SO WE WILL CREATE ALL KINDS OF RITUALS AND
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  • PRAYERS AND WHATEVER, INCANTATIONS, WHATEVER
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  • IT TAKES, IF WE CAN GET IT RIGHT AND WE OBEY THE
  • 00:15:43.050 --> 00:15:46.240
  • GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE WHO TELL US HOW
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  • TO DO IT RIGHT, THEN GOD IS SUPPOSED TO
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  • COME THROUGH.
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  • BUT SACRIFICE IS AT THE BASIS OF IT.
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  • THAT'S OUR LANGUAGE, SO GOD COMES INTO ABRAM'S
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  • WORLD SPEAKING ABRAM'S LANGUAGE.
  • 00:15:58.020 --> 00:16:00.100
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:12.030
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:16:12.030 --> 00:16:19.220
  • - NOW, IF I'M IN A WITH A FOOT IN B LIKE ABRAM,
  • 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:23.010
  • AND GOD COMES TO ME IN B WITH A FOOT IN C AND
  • 00:16:23.030 --> 00:16:25.240
  • COAXES ME INTO B, HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:16:25.260 --> 00:16:30.260
  • WHEN WE'RE IN B, WE THINK EVERYBODY IN A IS AN
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  • IDIOT, RIGHT?
  • 00:16:33.180 --> 00:16:36.190
  • AND WE THINK EVERYBODY IS IN C IS INSANE BECAUSE WE
  • 00:16:36.210 --> 00:16:39.010
  • USED TO BE LIKE THOSE PEOPLE.
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  • THEY'RE JUST NOT AS SMART AS US ANYMORE.
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  • THEY JUST DON'T SEE THE TRUTH WE SEE NOW.
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  • WE'RE IN B, AND WE BUILD A CHURCH IN B.
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  • WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE RELIGIOUS SYSTEM IN
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  • B, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL EXCITED ABOUT OUR B PLACE.
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  • A PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT I CAME FROM, THEY'RE
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  • IDIOTS RIGHT?
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  • C PEOPLE, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THEM.
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  • THIS IS ABOUT THE PROCESS OF GROWTH.
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  • GOD COMES, AND WHEN GOD COMES TO PEOPLE IN THE
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  • HEBREW SCRIPTURES A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A
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  • REVELATION OF SOME NEW CHARACTERISTIC OF GOD
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  • THROUGH A NEW NAME.
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  • GOD SAYS LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING NEW THAT YOU
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  • DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ME BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO
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  • CHANGE EVERYTHING.
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  • EVERYTHING IN YOUR WORLD IS GOING TO CHANGE WHEN
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  • YOU LEARN SOMETHING THAT IS TRUE ABOUT ME, SO
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  • ABRAM HE HEARS GOD SAY, I WANT YOU TO TAKE THE MOST
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  • PRECIOUS THING IN YOUR LIFE AND SACRIFICE IT.
  • 00:17:30.070 --> 00:17:33.150
  • NOW, WE HAVE THAT NARRATIVE.
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  • WHEN I WAS GROWING UP THAT STORY WAS ABOUT
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  • WILLING TO SACRIFICE YOUR CHILDREN ON THE ALTAR OF
  • 00:17:38.170 --> 00:17:40.270
  • GOD'S PURPOSE FOR THE MISSION, AND LET ME TELL
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  • YOU A LOT OF MY GENERATION WERE
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  • SLAUGHTERED IN THE NAME OF THE GOSPEL.
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  • THEY WERE DESTROYED IN THE NAME OF THE MISSION
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  • BASED ON THIS KIND OF MENTALITY, THAT GOD WANTS
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  • US TO GIVE HIM WHAT IS MOST PRECIOUS TO US, AND
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  • THEN HE'S GOING TO SEE IF WE REALLY LOVE HIM.
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  • AND THAT'S THE STORY.
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  • DOES ABRAHAM REALLY LOVE GOD?
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  • WE EVEN WROTE HYMNS ABOUT IT, IS YOUR ALL ON THE
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  • ALTAR OF SACRIFICE LAID, RIGHT?
  • 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:11.280
  • DOES EVERYTHING THE SPIRIT CONTROL?
  • 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.150
  • AND IT'S LIKE ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING
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  • BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROVE TO GOD THAT YOU REALLY
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  • LOVE HIM AS NUMBER ONE, AS A PRIORITY.
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  • I'M SORRY.
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  • I DON'T BELIEVE IN A GOD THAT DOES THAT, A GOD
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  • THAT SAYS I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR CHILD
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  • AND SACRIFICE?
  • 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.290
  • SO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS STORY.
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  • WELL, LET ME TELL YOU.
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  • GOD COMES TO BE ABRAM SPEAKING ABRAM'S LANGUAGE.
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  • I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR CHILD AND I WANT YOU TO
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  • SACRIFICE HIM.
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  • ABRAM UNDERSTANDS THAT.
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  • THIS IS WHY HE DOESN'T EVEN BALK AT THE IDEA.
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  • I'D BALK AT THE IDEA.
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  • ANY I THINK HEALTHY HUMAN BEING WOULD BALK AT THE
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  • IDEA, BUT NOT ABRAM.
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  • HE'S LIKE, OKAY. WHY?
  • 00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:57.120
  • BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU WENT TO INCAS
  • 00:18:57.140 --> 00:18:59.090
  • OR THE AZTECS AT THIS TIME OR THE EGYPTIANS
  • 00:18:59.110 --> 00:19:01.010
  • OR THE CALDEANS.
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  • EVERYBODY BELIEVES IN SACRIFICE, THAT THIS IS
  • 00:19:03.040 --> 00:19:05.000
  • HOW YOU PLEASE GOD, AND THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE
  • 00:19:05.020 --> 00:19:06.210
  • IS A CHILD.
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  • AND YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE TODAY.
  • 00:19:09.050 --> 00:19:11.160
  • WE HAVE OUR GRANDDAUGHTER WHO IS ADOPTED FROM
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  • UGANDA, AND WHEN OUR SON AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW WHY
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  • IN UGANDA WORKING IN THE EIGHT WEEKS TO GET HER
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  • OUT, SIX LITTLE BOYS WENT MISSING WITHIN A ONE MILE
  • 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:25.040
  • RADIUS, TWO OF THEM SHOWED UP A FEW WEEKS LATER.
  • 00:19:25.060 --> 00:19:28.260
  • FOUR OF THEM NEVER DID BECAUSE FOR $80 U.S.
  • 00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:32.070
  • YOU CAN BUY A CHILD IN UGANDA AND A WITCH DOCTOR
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  • WILL CUT THEM UP INTO PIECES AND SACRIFICE THEM
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  • INTO THE CORNER OF BUILDINGS AND
  • 00:19:38.210 --> 00:19:40.140
  • NEW CONSTRUCTION.
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  • THAT'S UNTHINKABLE TO US, RIGHT?
  • 00:19:43.030 --> 00:19:48.000
  • AND YET HERE YOU'VE GOT GOD SAYING I WANT YOU TO
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  • SACRIFICE YOUR CHILD, SO ABRAHAM GOES ALONG.
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  • THIS IS HIS LANGUAGE.
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  • HE KNOWS THE LANGUAGE OF SACRIFICE
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  • AND APPEASEMENT.
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  • IN THE BOOK OF HEBREWS, IT SAYS THAT BY FAITH HE
  • 00:19:59.010 --> 00:20:01.120
  • WAS WILLING TO SACRIFICE HIS SON THINKING THAT
  • 00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:03.130
  • EITHER GOD WAS GOING TO RAISE HIM FROM THE DEAD
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  • OR GIVE HIM A NEW SON, SO HE GOES ALONG WITH IT.
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  • HE GETS TO THE PLACE WHERE THE KNIFE IS COMING
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  • DOWN, AND GOD STOPS HIM, AND HE SAYS, ABRAM, I
  • 00:20:12.080 --> 00:20:17.240
  • WANT YOU TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW ABOUT WHO I AM.
  • 00:20:17.260 --> 00:20:21.110
  • AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME THIS NAME FOR GOD IS USED
  • 00:20:21.130 --> 00:20:24.030
  • IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURE, JEHOVAH JIREH, AND GOD
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  • SAYS LOOK, IF I NEED A SACRIFICE, I WILL
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  • PROVIDE MYSELF.
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  • I WILL PROVIDE MYSELF.
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  • THE FIRST THING I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, ABRAM,
  • 00:20:37.060 --> 00:20:42.000
  • ABOUT WHO I AM IS THAT I DO NOT REQUIRE SACRIFICE.
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  • THE LOVE BY WHICH WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN
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  • ORIGINATES IN GOD.
  • 00:20:53.010 --> 00:20:56.170
  • WE ARE MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
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  • THAT DESIRE TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, TO WANT THE
  • 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.170
  • BEST FROM OUR CHILDREN, WHERE DO YOU THINK
  • 00:21:02.190 --> 00:21:04.110
  • THAT ORIGINATES?
  • 00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:07.000
  • IN SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF A FALLEN,
  • 00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:09.070
  • BROKEN WORLD?
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  • THAT DESIRE ORIGINATES IN GOD, AND GOD IS MAKING
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  • CLEAR THE BEGINNING OF SCRIPTURE.
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  • I'M NOT A GOD LIKE ALL THOSE WHO REQUIRE TO
  • 00:21:16.010 --> 00:21:18.130
  • SACRIFICE OUR CHILDREN ON THE PURPOSES OF THE
  • 00:21:18.150 --> 00:21:20.130
  • KINGDOM OR ANYTHING ELSE.
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  • I'M A GOD WHO LOVES.
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  • A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE NARRATIVE.
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  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:21:29.100 --> 00:21:41.140
  • [MUSIC]
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  • WHAT'S THE WORD OF GOD?
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  • THE WORD OF GOD IS JESUS.
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  • HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.
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  • SCRIPTURE IS GREAT, BUT JESUS SAYS TO THE
  • 00:21:56.050 --> 00:21:58.200
  • PHARISEES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SCRIPTURE AS IF
  • 00:21:58.220 --> 00:22:00.220
  • THEY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
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  • THEY DON'T.
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  • THEY SPEAK ABOUT ME.
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  • THIS IS ABOUT ENCOUNTER.
  • 00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:08.040
  • THIS IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIP, AND JESUS
  • 00:22:08.060 --> 00:22:10.120
  • KNEW HOW TO LIVE INSIDE THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:12.080
  • HIS FATHER.
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  • YOU CAN SEE IT ALL THE TIME, AND IT WAS MOMENT
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  • BY MOMENT.
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  • HE SAYS I DON'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS I SEE THE
  • 00:22:18.150 --> 00:22:20.080
  • FATHER DO IT.
  • 00:22:20.100 --> 00:22:22.100
  • I DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNLESS I HEAR THE FATHER.
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  • THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S DICTATION GOING ON.
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  • IT MEANS THAT HE'S IN A RELATIONSHIP WHERE
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  • THERE'S CONSTANT COMMUNICATION.
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  • WE'RE DESIGNED FOR THAT.
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  • JESUS DIDN'T COME TO START A NEW RELIGION.
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  • HE CAME TO SHOW US WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE FULLY
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  • HUMAN, FULLY ALIVE.
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  • AND IT SHOWS UP.
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  • REMEMBER THE STORY OF THE WEDDING?
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  • JESUS, HE'S LIKE 30 YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW.
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  • HE HASN'T BEEN TO COLLEGE YET.
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  • HE'S BEEN HANGING AROUND WITH A BUNCH OF FRIENDS,
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  • AND HIS MOM SAYS, DO SOMETHING.
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  • WE'VE GOT THESE FRIENDS THAT ARE GOING TO
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  • BE EMBARRASSED.
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  • DO SOMETHING.
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  • AND JESUS SAYS, WOMAN.
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  • I MEAN, HE DOESN'T EVEN SAY, MOM.
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  • HE SAYS, WOMAN, MY TIME HASN'T COME.
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  • WHAT DOES SHE SAY?
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  • AH, WHATEVER.
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  • SHE'S A JEWISH MOM, YOU KNOW.
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  • WHATEVER.
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  • HEY, HEY, YOU GUYS.
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  • WHATEVER HE TELLS YOU TO DO, YOU JUST DO IT.
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  • AND THEN HE DOES IT, AND YOU'RE THINKING LIKE,
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  • WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE?
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  • WELL, HE SAYS, I DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNLESS I
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  • HEAR THE FATHER SAY IT, SO WHEN MARY SAYS, WOULD
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  • YOU DO SOMETHING, WHAT DOES JESUS HEAR THE
  • 00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:27.180
  • FATHER SAY?
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  • YOUR TIME HASN'T COME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS.
  • 00:23:30.210 --> 00:23:32.280
  • AND THEN 30 SECONDS LATER AFTER MARY HAS INCLUDED
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  • OF THIS COMMUNITY OF SERVANTS INTO THE
  • 00:23:36.040 --> 00:23:39.040
  • ACTIVITY OF GOD, FATHER SAYS, OKAY, NOW YOUR
  • 00:23:39.060 --> 00:23:43.190
  • TIME HAS COME.
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  • 30 SECONDS LATER, RIGHT?
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  • THIS IS THE ONGOING ACTIVITY AND DYNAMIC
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  • OF RELATIONSHIP.
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  • JESUS SAYS UNLESS YOU HEAR, RIGHT?
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  • MAN DOESN'T LIVE BY BREAD ALONE BUT BY EVERY WORD,
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  • AND THAT WORD IS THE WORD RHEMA WHICH MEANS THE NOW
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  • SPEAKING WORD OF GOD.
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  • THAT'S ENCOUNTER, RIGHT?
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  • YOUR INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE WITHOUT AN
  • 00:24:10.050 --> 00:24:12.110
  • ENCOUNTER WITH A LIVING JESUS WILL LEAD YOU TO
  • 00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:15.170
  • MISTREAT PEOPLE, TO ACT IN WAYS AND TRY TO
  • 00:24:15.190 --> 00:24:18.020
  • JUSTIFY BAD BEHAVIOR AND CREATE BAD RELIGION.
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  • WE NEED THIS ONGOING MOMENT BY MOMENT
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  • ENCOUNTER, AND GOD IS A GOOD COMMUNICATOR.
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  • GOD KNOWS HOW TO CLIMB INSIDE YOUR WORLD, SPEAK
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  • YOUR LANGUAGE IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN HEAR IT, AND
  • 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:34.290
  • I BELIEVE HE DOES THAT ALL THE TIME.
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  • JESUS IS THE WORD, THE LOGOS OF GOD WHO IS THE
  • 00:24:38.040 --> 00:24:41.210
  • NOW SPEAKING RHEMA OF GOD, AND THAT IS HOW WE LIVE.
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  • THAT IS HOW MOMENT BY MOMENT WE LIVE INSIDE THE
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  • GRACE OF ONE DAY.
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  • AND WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
  • 00:24:54.150 --> 00:24:57.060
  • WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO PARTICIPATION, TO OUR
  • 00:24:57.080 --> 00:25:01.160
  • JOINING WITH THE FATHER IN THE ACTIVITY OF BEING
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  • HUMAN JUST AS JESUS DID.
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  • SO IN THIS EPISODE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:13.290
  • HEARING THE VOICE OF GOD, AND PART OF THAT IS HOW
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  • OPEN ARE YOU?
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  • HOW OPEN AM I TO HEARING THE INPUT OF OTHERS?
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  • NOT JUST GOD BUT IDEAS AND CONCEPTS THAT ARE
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  • OUTSIDE OF MY NORMAL FRAME OF REFERENCE OR
  • 00:25:28.270 --> 00:25:33.020
  • OUTSIDE MY TRADITIONS OR THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
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  • THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CHALLENGING TO US THAT WE
  • 00:25:37.040 --> 00:25:39.270
  • NEED TO BEGIN TO ENTERTAIN JUST BECAUSE WE
  • 00:25:39.290 --> 00:25:43.200
  • CAN'T HELP BUT BE IN A BOX OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER.
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  • HOW DIFFERENT WOULD TO BE IF WE ACTUALLY BEGAN TO
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  • BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD, THE
  • 00:25:52.130 --> 00:25:54.220
  • VOICE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?
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  • HOW DIFFERENT WOULD IT BE IF I KNEW AND TRUSTED
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  • THAT GOD KNOWS HOW TO SPEAK MY LANGUAGE, LIKE, MINE?
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  • THAT GOD CAN CLIMB INSIDE MY WORLD AND SPEAK TO ME
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  • IN A WAY THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.
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  • I THINK IT WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING.
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  • SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT?
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  • AND WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION NEXT TIME.
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