During a Senate Confirmation Hearing for Pete Hegseth, extremist left-wing protestors disrupt the proceedings multiple times, hurling personal attacks at Hegseth. Despite the chaos, Hegseth maintains his composure and stays focused on the mission of becoming Secretary of Defense. He emphasizes his commitment to reforming the Pentagon and prioritizing lethality, meritocracy, war-fighting, accountability, and readiness. Throughout the hearing, Hegseth handles tough questions and interruptions with grace, demonstrating his resilience and dedication to serving the American people.
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Sekulow | Sekulow - Critically Important Senate Confirmation Hearing | January 28, 2025
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- - pete hegseth senate hearing halted
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- By left wing protestors.
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- Today we are monitoring the senate confirmation hearings
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- Of pete hegseth, and we'll be playing some comets also,
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- But earlier in the moment,
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- While they're talking, while they're trying to like,
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- You know, do some real serious deep dive,
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- And of course, you're getting a lot of bad questions,
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- You're getting a lot of personal attacks.
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- That's what's happening here.
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- I mean, right before we went on the air,
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- We were listening to the questions
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- And they all had to do with this personal life.
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- You didn't hear a lot of questions that were of substance
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- That had to do with real policy.
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- Sure, there were some earlier on in the day,
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- But of course people are taking
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- Some pretty big personal shots at pete hegseth
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- Right now during his confirmation hearing.
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- But earlier in the hearing,
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- It of course got halted this morning,
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- And as protestors, will, decided to make their voice heard.
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- These were kind of extreme left wing protesters.
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- - that's right, multiple times
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- During pete hegseth's opening statement,
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- So as he's delivering his remarks to the senate
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- Before that committee starts questioning,
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- Multiple protestors, as they do,
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- They get ready and one goes,
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- And as soon as they clear the room of that one,
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- They wait 30 seconds more and another goes,
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- And then so forth.
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- They were able to get them out very quickly.
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- But let's go ahead and see some of this footage
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- To see as they're carrying protestors out,
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- One specifically carrying out sideways
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- By the capitol hill police there,
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- Trying to make sure that they can continue the business
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- Of the senate, the advice and consent role
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- That is enumerated in our constitution.
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- But yet protestors got up there.
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- They said, "stop christian jihad,"
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- Were some of the signs that were held.
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- Also talking about pete hegseth in terms of gaza.
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- - [logan] pro-israel, zionist.
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- - yeah, exactly.
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- So there's a lot that was going on there.
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- It was a messy start to the confirmation hearings.
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- There was technically one this morning that already started
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- As well, but that one's not as focused on by the media.
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- This one obviously very headline-grabbing
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- Because it has been one of the most contentious nominees
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- That president trump put forward,
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- But doug collins appeared
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- Before the veterans affairs committee this morning
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- To lead the va.
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- But pete hegseth today, and then when we get back,
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- We'll also talk about some of the ones coming up
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- As the senate moves forward with this nomination process
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- Of these names put forward by president trump.
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- - others, you know, there's been some news
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- With tulsi gabbard 'cause they thought
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- That she would be moving forward
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- With her confirmation hearing and look,
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- People thought in this moment,
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- People weren't even sure if pete hegseth
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- Was gonna make it to this,
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- Make it to the confirmation hearing,
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- And good for him, he made it there, it's happening.
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- We got a packed show, so stay tuned.
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- We got some great guests coming on.
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- If you're watching on youtube, if you're watching on x,
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- If you're watching on facebook,
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- Whatever it may be, we're encourage you to share it.
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- Obviously a lot more came out of facebook as well.
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- Some of the more updates as you had mark zuckerberg
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- Appearing on the joe rogan podcast
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- Going after some of the claims
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- That we kind of assumed happened.
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- But the fact that he specifically started talking about
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- That the biden administration was cursing them out,
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- Threatening them over allowing, you know,
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- Essentially satire, memes, you know,
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- A leonardo dicaprio looking at the tv screen pointing meme.
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- That's what they were trying to police.
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- And of course facebook eventually said no,
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- That they couldn't take it anymore.
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- It's a very interesting time.
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- - we're monitoring live in real time
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- The senate confirmation hearing of pete hegseth.
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- Again, another person who president trump picked
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- That we weren't sure, just based on some of the backlash
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- That came, whether he would make it
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- To this day still as the nominee.
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- We obviously saw matt gaetz not make it,
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- Withdraw, and be replaced by pam bondi,
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- So this happening, actually getting here,
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- I think is a big deal, will,
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- The fact that he was able to overcome a lot of that,
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- And here's what i could say about pete hegseth.
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- These hearings are interesting
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- Because there's a lot of fluff questions
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- And then there's a lot of dodgy answers
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- And that's gonna be true for everyone who goes up.
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- It's sort of just the nature of the beast,
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- So you're not gonna learn all that much,
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- Other than how they do under pressure.
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- Take away any of his credentials as someone
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- Who should be qualified or is qualified for this position.
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- Saw pete hegseth about a year ago,
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- Maybe a year and a half,
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- Maybe closer to two years at this point,
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- Do a live fox news event here in nashville
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- And i went and i told even our friends at fox news
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- And i said he was probably one of the best communicators,
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- Best real time hosts i had seen.
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- I said at the moment,
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- Almost like a ryan seacrest level of being able
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- To continue on to be improv and flow perfectly
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- And i was very impressed with him.
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- So from someone who can communicate
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- With the american people,
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- I thought pete did an incredible job.
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- And in that moment, i wasn't thinking of him
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- As being in this position.
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- I was thinking of him more of being a,
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- Oh man, he's clearly gonna be the next, you know,
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- Mainstay on fox news.
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- He's gonna be the one that's gonna get
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- One of those big shows, those evening shows,
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- Or maybe he's gonna go on beyond that
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- 'cause i thought i was just very impressed with him
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- As a communicator.
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- I thought he was a great communicator
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- Of interesting information.
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- He could break it down to where people can understand it
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- And we kind of need somebody like that in that role.
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- It doesn't only have to be someone
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- Who is obviously very qualified for the position,
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- But also someone who can communicate to the american people
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- As he has been doing now for a number of years.
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- - he isn't easily shaken
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- During those opening statements of his
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- When there were multiple protests,
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- Calling him a christian zionist, yelling about gaza,
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- Calling him a misogynist.
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- There were times that that could rattle
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- And that's the goal of these protestors,
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- To rattle the nominee.
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- - it's also the goal of the people asking the questions.
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- - exactly. - if they're not friendly.
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- - he's handled these, even tim kaine,
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- Former running mate with hillary clinton,
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- Senator from virginia, was pretty nasty in the way
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- He phrased his question, asking about his personal life
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- And trying to tie that to an oath of office
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- To uphold the constitution
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- And he didn't get rattled by it.
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- Now, he may, some critics may say, give a very political,
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- Scripted tv answer, but he's very calm
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- And poised through this and i think that speaks volumes
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- To also how he weathered the storm early on.
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- He keeps his head up, he moves forward,
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- And he focuses on the mission, which is what you want
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- Out of a secretary of defense
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- And i think we should play this from his opening statement.
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- This is pete hegseth talking about the mandate
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- That he will have in the department of defense,
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- Should he be confirmed by the senate.
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- Let's go ahead and play bite one.
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- - as i've said to many of you in private meetings,
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- When president trump chose me for this position,
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- The primary charge he gave me
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- Was to bring the warrior culture
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- Back to the department of defense.
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- He, like me, wants a pentagon laser-focused
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- On lethality, meritocracy, war-fighting,
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- Accountability, and readiness.
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- - this did happen, if you are just joining us now.
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- There were protesters broke out,
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- People asking how'd they get in all that?
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- Well, they have their ways of getting in
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- And it's a public hearing.
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- They go in organized and they're protesting
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- Because they think that pete, not only is not qualified,
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- I don't even know if they're actually
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- Even talking about his qualifications,
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- They think he is someone who they'd consider a christian,
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- A christian zionist, a christian,
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- What was the word they were using?
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- - christian zionist. - christian jihadist.
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- - christian jihadist on a sign that they were holding up.
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- - so i want you guys to see this.
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- Let's take a look at this once again,
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- Take a look though, here's the protesters in real time.
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- (protestors chattering) - [security] sit down.
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- - [protestor] i'm leaving, man.
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- - bravo take me. - i'm leaving.
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- (protestors chattering)
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- - get your hands off me. - thank you.
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- - thank you for figuratively and literally having my back.
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- (gavel banging)
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- - [protestor] pete, you are a misogynist.
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- Not only that, you are as christian zionist.
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- (protestor vocalizing)
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- Zionist.
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- - i love that specifically
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- It goes from "you're a misogynist,"
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- To the second one is,
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- "also, you're a christian zionist.
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- How dare you."
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- It is like those are, you know, one in the same.
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- We do have a comment though specifically about that
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- Sort of claim of christian zionism.
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- It came in, senator cotton asked specifically about this
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- 'cause he said, "hey, i heard some of the protests,
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- I've heard people are talking about-"
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- - the protesters were having an influence on-
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- - they did, they inspired. - the content of the hearing.
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- - they inspired, so maybe we should take a listen.
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- This is just moments ago in the hearing.
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- - the first one accused you of being a christian zionist.
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- I'm not really sure why that is a bad thing.
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- I'm a christian, i'm a zionist.
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- Zionism is that the jewish people deserve a homeland
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- In the ancient holy land
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- Where they've lived since the dawn of history.
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- Do you consider yourself a christian zionist?
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- - senator, i support, i'm a christian
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- And i robustly support the state of israel
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- And its existential defense and the way america
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- Comes alongside them is a great help.
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- - thank you, 'cause another protestor,
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- And i think this one was a member of code pink,
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- Which by the way is a chinese communist front group
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- These days, said that you support israel's war in gaza.
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- I support israel's existential war in gaza.
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- I assume like me and president trump,
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- You support that war as well, don't you?
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- - senator, i do.
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- I support israel destroying
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- And killing every last member of hamas.
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- - so a pretty strong statement coming out of pete hegseth,
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- Again, clearly getting questions
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- From someone like tom cotton,
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- You're gonna have maybe a bit more,
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- I don't wanna say softballs,
- 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:21.721
- But these are questions that someone you agree with
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- And in this moment saying, "yeah, of course."
- 00:10:23.556 --> 00:10:26.359
- He did not use the word zionist himself.
- 00:10:26.359 --> 00:10:28.862
- Hegseth did not use that word.
- 00:10:28.862 --> 00:10:30.363
- I'm sure there's probably some reasons behind that.
- 00:10:30.363 --> 00:10:33.133
- But definitely said, "i'm a christian,
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- I'm someone who supports the state of israel,
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- And supports israel destroying
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- And killing every last member of hamas."
- 00:10:38.671 --> 00:10:41.407
- Also statements being made by other palestinian governments
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- And leadership that came out saying,
- 00:10:44.944 --> 00:10:46.846
- "hey, we condemn everything hamas is doing.
- 00:10:46.846 --> 00:10:49.182
- They are setting us back."
- 00:10:49.182 --> 00:10:50.717
- So in some ways, this actually has some positive movement
- 00:10:50.717 --> 00:10:54.087
- For israel and for the hopeful end to this entire war,
- 00:10:54.087 --> 00:10:58.725
- And hopefully the freedom of the hostages
- 00:10:58.725 --> 00:11:01.194
- That are still there for well over at this point,
- 00:11:01.194 --> 00:11:03.596
- A year and a half plus.
- 00:11:03.596 --> 00:11:05.131
- Let's go ahead and take a phone call.
- 00:11:05.131 --> 00:11:06.466
- Let's go to robert in maryland on line one.
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- Robert, you're on the air.
- 00:11:08.735 --> 00:11:10.837
- - [robert] i wanted to ask the question
- 00:11:10.837 --> 00:11:13.439
- Between the election day of donald trump
- 00:11:13.439 --> 00:11:16.075
- Winning the election november 5th
- 00:11:16.075 --> 00:11:17.677
- And him being inaugurated january 20, 2025 of this year,
- 00:11:17.677 --> 00:11:20.814
- During that 75 or 76 day period,
- 00:11:20.814 --> 00:11:23.349
- What are the most dangerous actions
- 00:11:23.349 --> 00:11:25.652
- That president biden has taken
- 00:11:25.652 --> 00:11:27.987
- That could derail the trump agenda in your view?
- 00:11:27.987 --> 00:11:30.723
- - sure, robert, a lot has happened actually
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- In the last couple of months since then,
- 00:11:32.826 --> 00:11:35.495
- And it's still, i mean, again,
- 00:11:35.495 --> 00:11:36.896
- You can make a lot of these moves
- 00:11:36.896 --> 00:11:38.464
- Up until the very last second as the president,
- 00:11:38.464 --> 00:11:41.034
- And you see that often, you see presidents making,
- 00:11:41.034 --> 00:11:43.503
- These not only last minute moves,
- 00:11:43.503 --> 00:11:44.838
- But you would even say last second moves.
- 00:11:44.838 --> 00:11:47.574
- While the inauguration parties are happening,
- 00:11:47.574 --> 00:11:50.376
- Not parties, but the festivities are happening
- 00:11:50.376 --> 00:11:52.612
- Before the swearing in, there's usually a couple people
- 00:11:52.612 --> 00:11:54.647
- Still back at the white house making these final moves.
- 00:11:54.647 --> 00:11:57.917
- - that's right, i think personally,
- 00:11:57.917 --> 00:11:59.419
- Some of the most dangerous, i mean, you see a lot,
- 00:11:59.419 --> 00:12:01.421
- There's even like the executive orders
- 00:12:01.421 --> 00:12:02.989
- On drilling ban for oil, offshore drilling,
- 00:12:02.989 --> 00:12:06.860
- Things of that nature
- 00:12:06.860 --> 00:12:08.228
- That can be quickly undone by president trump,
- 00:12:08.228 --> 00:12:10.129
- So really while a good moment, pr moment for the left,
- 00:12:10.129 --> 00:12:14.868
- Not necessarily long-term devastation
- 00:12:14.868 --> 00:12:17.670
- To the american economy or energy independence,
- 00:12:17.670 --> 00:12:20.573
- But some of the ones i think of
- 00:12:20.573 --> 00:12:21.808
- Are actually the foreign policy moves,
- 00:12:21.808 --> 00:12:23.443
- Which are very much at the discretion of the president.
- 00:12:23.443 --> 00:12:27.780
- And when joe biden did things like,
- 00:12:27.780 --> 00:12:31.184
- "i authorize ukraine now to use weapons we've given
- 00:12:31.184 --> 00:12:34.721
- For long-distance ballistic missile strikes within russia,"
- 00:12:34.721 --> 00:12:39.058
- I think that is, i would put up as one of the top moves
- 00:12:39.058 --> 00:12:43.096
- That this biden administration has done
- 00:12:43.096 --> 00:12:45.398
- That could long-term be very, very devastating
- 00:12:45.398 --> 00:12:49.168
- To world peace, to ending a conflict in russia with ukraine,
- 00:12:49.168 --> 00:12:53.840
- And when you look at that also, it puts us,
- 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.577
- As a nato member with other nato allies in that area,
- 00:12:57.577 --> 00:13:00.880
- Ukraine not being one of them,
- 00:13:00.880 --> 00:13:02.415
- But puts us in a very precarious situation if a bigger fight
- 00:13:02.415 --> 00:13:06.019
- Breaks out because now ukraine is launching missiles
- 00:13:06.019 --> 00:13:09.789
- Deeper into the homeland of russia.
- 00:13:09.789 --> 00:13:13.293
- Robert, i'd put that pretty close to the top
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- Of this lame duck session of president biden's presidency
- 00:13:15.695 --> 00:13:19.165
- Of dangerous moves that he's done.
- 00:13:19.165 --> 00:13:21.367
- - well, thanks to members of our aclj team,
- 00:13:21.367 --> 00:13:23.836
- And of course, supporters like you that give
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- And donate, aclj champions, we're able to fight
- 00:13:26.005 --> 00:13:28.942
- For the confirmation hearings,
- 00:13:28.942 --> 00:13:30.643
- But also you're gonna hear from someone who's been
- 00:13:30.643 --> 00:13:32.779
- Through this themselves in the next segment.
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- (gentle music)
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- (gentle music)
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- (gentle music)
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- - monitoring the senate confirmation hearing
- 00:13:42.185 --> 00:13:44.588
- Of pete hegseth, as well as the other
- 00:13:44.588 --> 00:13:46.390
- Senate confirmation hearings that are coming,
- 00:13:46.390 --> 00:13:47.991
- Protestors broke out screaming
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- That he was a christian zionist and so on and so on,
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- A christian jihadist, member of the aclj team
- 00:13:52.329 --> 00:13:55.232
- And secular broadcast team, mike pompeo,
- 00:13:55.232 --> 00:13:57.067
- Senior council for global affairs is joining us live,
- 00:13:57.067 --> 00:13:59.536
- And we're obviously, we're all monitoring right now
- 00:13:59.536 --> 00:14:01.872
- The confirmation hearings
- 00:14:01.872 --> 00:14:03.206
- That are happening on capitol hill.
- 00:14:03.206 --> 00:14:04.808
- Pete hegseth's up right now.
- 00:14:04.808 --> 00:14:06.343
- I wanted to hear from you as someone who has been there,
- 00:14:06.343 --> 00:14:08.779
- Who's been through this confirmation hearing twice
- 00:14:08.779 --> 00:14:11.548
- As secretary of state and cia director.
- 00:14:11.548 --> 00:14:13.650
- Can you tell us what it's like to be up there,
- 00:14:13.650 --> 00:14:15.285
- Knowing the pressure
- 00:14:15.285 --> 00:14:16.453
- And knowing the world is watching you,
- 00:14:16.453 --> 00:14:17.854
- And knowing you're gonna be thrown questions
- 00:14:17.854 --> 00:14:20.390
- That are intentionally made even to make you look foolish,
- 00:14:20.390 --> 00:14:23.493
- And at least for half of them to try to do that to you.
- 00:14:23.493 --> 00:14:27.030
- - oh goodness, yeah, it was really quite something.
- 00:14:28.065 --> 00:14:29.766
- I must have done better the first time than the second.
- 00:14:29.766 --> 00:14:31.635
- I got more votes to be cia director
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- Than i did to be secretary of state.
- 00:14:33.336 --> 00:14:35.806
- Look, the reality is, is you have to stay focused.
- 00:14:35.806 --> 00:14:38.909
- It is a serious matter.
- 00:14:38.909 --> 00:14:41.044
- The senate has properly the role of advice and consent.
- 00:14:41.044 --> 00:14:43.980
- You honor them and america by doing your best
- 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:47.451
- To answer their questions,
- 00:14:47.451 --> 00:14:49.386
- But you also have to recognize there's often
- 00:14:49.386 --> 00:14:51.588
- A lot of theater going on there.
- 00:14:51.588 --> 00:14:53.490
- So i remember the wisdom that i got from secretary baker,
- 00:14:53.490 --> 00:14:58.261
- Which was, "keep your eye on the ball,
- 00:14:58.261 --> 00:15:00.230
- Stay focused on the reasons that you'd said yes
- 00:15:00.230 --> 00:15:03.033
- When the president asked you to stand for confirmation
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- And take on these important roles.
- 00:15:06.837 --> 00:15:09.172
- Remember the things that you know in your heart to be true.
- 00:15:09.172 --> 00:15:12.409
- Don't ever vary from them.
- 00:15:12.409 --> 00:15:13.810
- Do your best to answer the questions accurately,
- 00:15:13.810 --> 00:15:15.345
- But when they ask something foolish, kind of, you know,"
- 00:15:15.345 --> 00:15:19.082
- I almost used a bad word, "some nonsensical question
- 00:15:19.082 --> 00:15:21.718
- Aimed at trapping you, don't take the bait,
- 00:15:21.718 --> 00:15:24.087
- Simply go back to basic principles,
- 00:15:24.087 --> 00:15:26.022
- And when you do that, in the end, the world will observe,
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- American people will observe,
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- And the senators will observe that you're a serious,
- 00:15:31.161 --> 00:15:33.196
- Thoughtful, decent person aimed at delivering
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- For the american people."
- 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:36.733
- That's what i tried to do.
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- There's a few moments i didn't quite pull that off,
- 00:15:38.135 --> 00:15:40.437
- But i tried my best.
- 00:15:40.437 --> 00:15:42.005
- - mr. secretary, as we look at what's gonna be a marathon
- 00:15:42.005 --> 00:15:46.176
- Of wall-to-wall coverage of confirmation hearings
- 00:15:46.176 --> 00:15:48.778
- Over the next few days, weeks even,
- 00:15:48.778 --> 00:15:52.449
- Knowing not just the confirmation process,
- 00:15:52.449 --> 00:15:54.918
- Which you've been through, but also the importance
- 00:15:54.918 --> 00:15:57.787
- Of getting the nominees into their positions
- 00:15:57.787 --> 00:16:01.825
- Very early on so that they can start to carry out the agenda
- 00:16:01.825 --> 00:16:05.228
- Of the incoming president.
- 00:16:05.228 --> 00:16:06.897
- What do you think the biggest challenges are
- 00:16:06.897 --> 00:16:08.665
- For the administration in getting these nominees
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- Confirmed and ready to go?
- 00:16:11.668 --> 00:16:13.570
- - goodness, you know, this is exactly,
- 00:16:13.570 --> 00:16:15.539
- You hit on the central point.
- 00:16:15.539 --> 00:16:17.774
- The first task is for the nominees themselves
- 00:16:17.774 --> 00:16:19.776
- To get their act together and get their documents done.
- 00:16:19.776 --> 00:16:23.480
- It's extensive, there's a lot of work.
- 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:25.248
- It's many, many hours of work.
- 00:16:25.248 --> 00:16:27.517
- For some people it's really complicated financial stuff.
- 00:16:27.517 --> 00:16:29.653
- Get it done, get that paperwork in, submit it,
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- Don't fight the process.
- 00:16:31.721 --> 00:16:33.190
- If you fight the process, you'll be months into it.
- 00:16:33.190 --> 00:16:36.026
- Second, we need senate leadership.
- 00:16:36.026 --> 00:16:39.362
- This is republican leadership in the senate
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- To move these things quickly, to force them.
- 00:16:41.398 --> 00:16:43.633
- If there's someone that's not gonna make it
- 00:16:43.633 --> 00:16:45.168
- For whatever reason, fine, have the hearing,
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- Vote 'em down, get on.
- 00:16:47.404 --> 00:16:48.972
- But what we found so many times is they'd get hung up
- 00:16:48.972 --> 00:16:50.907
- And we'd go months and months and months
- 00:16:50.907 --> 00:16:52.409
- Without getting someone moved through.
- 00:16:52.409 --> 00:16:54.344
- And then finally this thought.
- 00:16:54.344 --> 00:16:56.713
- So we'll all be very focused on the cabinet-level hearings
- 00:16:56.713 --> 00:16:59.249
- That'll take place over the next two weeks or three weeks.
- 00:16:59.249 --> 00:17:02.519
- Those are obviously central, vitally important,
- 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.488
- But there are thousands of confirmed positions
- 00:17:05.488 --> 00:17:08.525
- And the trump administration deserves
- 00:17:08.525 --> 00:17:10.393
- To get its entire team on the field.
- 00:17:10.393 --> 00:17:12.696
- In our first term, i became the secretary of state
- 00:17:12.696 --> 00:17:15.832
- At 19 months in, or 18 months into the administration.
- 00:17:15.832 --> 00:17:19.269
- We still had hundreds of people
- 00:17:19.269 --> 00:17:21.438
- Whose confirmations were pending.
- 00:17:21.438 --> 00:17:23.673
- Sometimes it was the fault of the nominee,
- 00:17:24.574 --> 00:17:26.343
- Sometimes it was the fault of the senate,
- 00:17:26.343 --> 00:17:28.111
- But in the end, we need all of those folks on the field
- 00:17:28.111 --> 00:17:31.314
- So that president trump could do precisely
- 00:17:31.314 --> 00:17:32.983
- What he told the american people that he would do.
- 00:17:32.983 --> 00:17:35.585
- He's capable of that, i'm confident he will,
- 00:17:35.585 --> 00:17:37.354
- But he can't do it with a team
- 00:17:37.354 --> 00:17:39.422
- That's not supporting his mission, his agenda,
- 00:17:39.422 --> 00:17:41.691
- And those confirmations have to move forward,
- 00:17:41.691 --> 00:17:43.426
- Not in the singles, not in the dozens,
- 00:17:43.426 --> 00:17:46.263
- But in the hundreds and thousands.
- 00:17:46.263 --> 00:17:48.064
- - i think, secretary pompeo, it's a very interesting
- 00:17:48.064 --> 00:17:50.267
- Point of view that a lot of people maybe don't understand,
- 00:17:50.267 --> 00:17:52.302
- Which is the timeline of this doesn't have to...
- 00:17:52.302 --> 00:17:55.538
- You're right, you hear the big ticket items,
- 00:17:55.538 --> 00:17:57.874
- If you will, the big positions,
- 00:17:57.874 --> 00:17:59.509
- But not that the others are not important
- 00:17:59.509 --> 00:18:01.077
- And are very important, but this can go on
- 00:18:01.077 --> 00:18:03.980
- For months and months and months.
- 00:18:03.980 --> 00:18:06.049
- People don't really understand that,
- 00:18:06.049 --> 00:18:07.484
- That this isn't something that you started today
- 00:18:07.484 --> 00:18:09.085
- To get everything done by january 20th.
- 00:18:09.085 --> 00:18:11.121
- This is a long-term effort,
- 00:18:11.121 --> 00:18:13.623
- And if you have people who are, like you said,
- 00:18:13.623 --> 00:18:15.025
- Who they're not trusting or they're trying to block,
- 00:18:15.025 --> 00:18:18.061
- It can be a brutal process,
- 00:18:18.061 --> 00:18:20.030
- And when you only have a four-year term
- 00:18:20.030 --> 00:18:22.232
- For president trump at this point,
- 00:18:22.232 --> 00:18:24.134
- Just 'cause it will only be four years
- 00:18:24.134 --> 00:18:26.102
- 'cause it's his second term, they gotta get moving fast.
- 00:18:26.102 --> 00:18:29.906
- - no, it's essential.
- 00:18:30.407 --> 00:18:32.142
- They need the first several hundred confirmed
- 00:18:32.142 --> 00:18:33.977
- In the first 100 days.
- 00:18:33.977 --> 00:18:35.612
- You need to get that level.
- 00:18:35.612 --> 00:18:36.780
- That'd be your cabinet secretaries,
- 00:18:36.780 --> 00:18:38.148
- Your deputy secretaries, and the undersecretaries,
- 00:18:38.148 --> 00:18:40.116
- And every agency, not just defense and security,
- 00:18:40.116 --> 00:18:43.320
- But treasury, commerce, hud.
- 00:18:43.320 --> 00:18:48.291
- These things really matter to people's lives
- 00:18:48.291 --> 00:18:50.393
- And to their wellbeing and to the american economy.
- 00:18:50.393 --> 00:18:52.562
- Workers all across america
- 00:18:52.562 --> 00:18:54.230
- Are counting on president trump's deregulatory agenda.
- 00:18:54.230 --> 00:18:57.067
- That is not gonna happen until all of those leaders
- 00:18:57.067 --> 00:19:00.470
- Have been put in position
- 00:19:00.470 --> 00:19:02.072
- And can get their feet on the ground and start working it,
- 00:19:02.072 --> 00:19:04.007
- And so, yes, we'll have these bright, shiny objects
- 00:19:04.007 --> 00:19:09.179
- That happen here in january.
- 00:19:09.779 --> 00:19:11.047
- February, march, and april are essential
- 00:19:11.047 --> 00:19:12.716
- For the administration to get its work done
- 00:19:12.716 --> 00:19:14.317
- And the senate to do its job
- 00:19:14.317 --> 00:19:15.785
- And get these folks on the playing field.
- 00:19:15.785 --> 00:19:17.954
- - rick grenell's joining us live.
- 00:19:17.954 --> 00:19:19.322
- Rick, there's been a lot going on in capitol hill.
- 00:19:19.322 --> 00:19:20.924
- Obviously the senators are,
- 00:19:20.924 --> 00:19:22.525
- The senate confirmation hearing is happening right now
- 00:19:22.525 --> 00:19:24.294
- For pete hegseth.
- 00:19:24.294 --> 00:19:25.528
- It's getting a bit heated, as you'd expect.
- 00:19:25.528 --> 00:19:29.132
- Obviously the conservatives, the republicans,
- 00:19:29.132 --> 00:19:31.101
- Throwing him questions that feel legitimate,
- 00:19:31.101 --> 00:19:33.503
- Some of the democrats at least pushing
- 00:19:33.503 --> 00:19:35.004
- And asking some questions,
- 00:19:35.004 --> 00:19:36.373
- But of course it's turning personal real quick
- 00:19:36.373 --> 00:19:38.041
- And it gets pretty ugly pretty fast,
- 00:19:38.041 --> 00:19:39.976
- But that is to be expected.
- 00:19:39.976 --> 00:19:41.978
- He's not the first person for this to happen to,
- 00:19:41.978 --> 00:19:44.614
- But of course, it keeps everyone's eye off the ball.
- 00:19:44.614 --> 00:19:47.784
- - yeah, look, i'm just looking at what pete is doing
- 00:19:48.818 --> 00:19:52.455
- And it's really remarkable.
- 00:19:52.455 --> 00:19:53.923
- I mean, he's staying calm, he's staying focused
- 00:19:53.923 --> 00:19:56.926
- On what the mission is, which is to reform the pentagon.
- 00:19:56.926 --> 00:20:01.731
- Donald trump is a disruptor.
- 00:20:01.731 --> 00:20:02.999
- No one should be surprised
- 00:20:02.999 --> 00:20:05.168
- That he's gonna put nominees in who wanna disrupt
- 00:20:05.168 --> 00:20:09.272
- And change and reform.
- 00:20:09.272 --> 00:20:10.640
- Look, the system in washington is incredibly entrenched
- 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:14.043
- And i think, you know, you're gonna have people
- 00:20:14.043 --> 00:20:17.580
- Who don't want a disruptor, and so they're gonna get ugly
- 00:20:17.580 --> 00:20:21.017
- And personal and sling mud.
- 00:20:21.017 --> 00:20:23.586
- I think most americans kind of yawn at this process
- 00:20:23.586 --> 00:20:28.558
- Because politicians tend to be ugly and mean-spirited
- 00:20:28.558 --> 00:20:33.463
- And you know, they're just looking for any way to exploit,
- 00:20:33.463 --> 00:20:37.167
- But i think pete's doing a good job.
- 00:20:37.167 --> 00:20:38.802
- - i don't think the goal was necessarily to, you know,
- 00:20:38.802 --> 00:20:42.172
- Make this hearing a circus,
- 00:20:42.172 --> 00:20:44.974
- But i think what's probably most shocking
- 00:20:44.974 --> 00:20:46.643
- And good for pete for weathering the storm
- 00:20:46.643 --> 00:20:49.479
- Is that i believe the initial goal was for him
- 00:20:49.479 --> 00:20:51.347
- To not even make it to today,
- 00:20:51.347 --> 00:20:53.116
- Was for him to not even be the nominee,
- 00:20:53.116 --> 00:20:55.618
- That the pressure was gonna be on so greatly,
- 00:20:55.618 --> 00:20:57.821
- And look, the pressure did come on.
- 00:20:57.821 --> 00:20:59.656
- It still is that i think maybe one of the biggest wins
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- Is that he is actually sitting there
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- In this confirmation hearing.
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- - look, i think serving in the trump administration,
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- You have to be really comfortable with being able
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- To take hits from people who just wanna,
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- You know, sling mud.
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- Whether it's the media, whether it's democrats on the hill,
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- But you gotta just stay focused.
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- I mean, pete has been asked to do a big job.
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- It's to reform the pentagon to get us more ready.
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- We all see what's been happening
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- To our military servicemen and women.
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- We have way too many programs
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- That we're spending your tax dollars on that are a waste.
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- We have a military that's not nearly as ready
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- As they should be, and the budget yet is enormous.
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- I mean, you think about how much money we're spending
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- American tax dollars at the pentagon and it's shocking,
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- And so pete's got a big job to reform the place,
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- To try to get us back on track for military readiness
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- And we are in a situation where it has to be done
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- Because recruitment numbers are so low,
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- We have to do something different,
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- And pete understands that
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- And i think he will make it through.
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- He's staying calm.
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- He understands the game of washington.
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- But again, the rest of us outside of washington,
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- The big yawn, big collective yawn, we're used to this.
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- - rick, when you watch these hearings,
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- Many times the real story of what people
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- Are watching for though is demeanor.
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- The questions obviously you understand
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- The left's gonna be nasty, you understand the right,
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- Especially, now there have been some republican senators
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- Who have had more questions than they normally would
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- Like senator ernst, but i believe it sounds like pete
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- Is answering her questions that she has
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- And taking her seriously,
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- But he said in his opening statement
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- That he wants a pentagon, president trump and himself,
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- Want a pentagon laser-focused on lethality,
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- Meritocracy, war-fighting, accountability and readiness.
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- And to see how he has been able
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- To be laser-focused on getting through the media storm
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- Around his nomination, getting to this hearing,
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- And then even multiple times during his opening statement,
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- Not being even fazed by the protestors
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- That were having to be drug out horizontally
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- Through the hearing room.
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- He kept his cool
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- And stayed laser-focused on today's mission,
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- Answering the questions of us senators
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- In a respectful, honest way.
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- I think that says more about the character
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- And demeanor of how he would take this job,
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- Laser-focused on lethality, meritocracy, war-fighting,
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- Accountability, and readiness,
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- Than anything he'll say to the senators today.
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- - yeah, i think that, will, it's a really great point of,
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- You know, the process is what it is.
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- It's a circus, they're slinging mud,
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- And they're just trying to get you off your game.
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- They're trying to see if you care about what
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- The media are saying or the hits that are coming
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- And you've gotta be able to stay focused.
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- It's kind of like an mma fighter.
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- I love mma, the ufc, and you know,
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- My friends who are ufc fighters, they say,
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- "you know, when you take a hit in the face,
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- You can't get emotional about it.
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- You've got to stay focused to your strategy."
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- And i think that's the same way in politics
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- Is that you have a job to do, stay focused on the mission,
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- And i think pete's one of those people
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- That he's not gonna get rattled by what
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- A "new york times" reporter says,
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- Or the profile piece of a couple lefty reporters.
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- - yeah, rick, thank you so much.
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- I know you need to pop in here just for a second
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- Because you've had a very busy day
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- And obviously you got a new position coming up very shortly
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- And we're excited for ya,
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- Excited for keeping you here too as well.
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- You're giving great analysis for our group, and of course-
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- - all the best, thank you.
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- - thanks, rick, and thank you all of you
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