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  • (Jay Sekulow Live theme music)
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  • - Ric Grennell,former acting director
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  • of national intelligence,
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  • former US Ambassador to Germany,
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  • a recent member ofPresident Trump's cabinet.
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  • Remember, he declassifiedall those unmasking requests.
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  • We're gonna getinto the election,
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  • politics, campaign 2020.
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  • He's been out of the trail.
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  • He's been out allover the country.
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  • And he really wantsto give you all
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  • as a special advisor to the ACLJ
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  • his thoughts onwhat he's seeing,
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  • what he's pickingup on, the issues.
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  • So he's gonna be joining us
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  • in the studio todayof Jay Sekulow Live.
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  • (dramatic orchestral music)
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  • Everybody welcome backto Jay Sekulow Live.
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  • This is Jordan Sekulow.
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  • And as we said earlierin the broadcast,
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  • it is great to have
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  • our special advisorfor national security
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  • and foreign policy,
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  • former acting directorof national intelligence
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  • and US ambassador to Germany.
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  • Also spent, was it 11 years,
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  • eight, 10?- At the state department, 11.
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  • - Yeah, 11 years atthe state department.
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  • Our special advisorto ACLJ, Ric Grennell.
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  • - Live and in personin the studio.
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  • - [Jordan] Live and inperson in the studio with us.
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  • - This is amazing.
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  • - He's usually been on theroad, had been very busy,
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  • even after stepping down
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  • as acting director ofnational intelligence.
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  • Very busy, of course,
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  • as we get very closeto the election.
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  • We're gonna talk politicsin the next segment.
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  • We got Ric for acouple segments.
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  • We're here in the studio.
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  • But I do want to talkto you about this
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  • because Ric, it came out.
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  • You were on the firstcouple days of the week
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  • and then this came outwhile you were traveling.
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  • And I wanted toget your thoughts.
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  • We got these notes from Brennan.
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  • Now the notes came out
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  • pre the tweet fromPresident Trump
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  • saying declassify everything,
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  • you know, un-redact everything.
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  • We get this all thetime with FOIAS.
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  • Sometimes it shouldbe, sometimes with...
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  • But he said declassify it.
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  • But in these notes, I mean,
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  • reading from John Brennan'sown notes, the CIA director.
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  • And we know this isafter July 28th 2016.
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  • So right in the heartof the election,
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  • last election,presidential election.
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  • We're getting additional insightinto Russian action from...
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  • And then that's all redacted.
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  • But then he goes, he'sciting alleged approval
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  • by Hillary Clinton
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  • of a proposal
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  • on July 28th by herforeign policy advisor
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  • to vilify Donald Trump
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  • by stirring up a scandal.
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  • These are JohnBrennan's own words.
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  • By stirring up a scandal
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  • into the Russian,tying the campaign,
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  • to the Russian security service
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  • to distract from theissue with her server.
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  • The people listedthat are briefed here
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  • are POTUS, that's Obama,
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  • JC, Comey,
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  • Denis McDonough,the White House.
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  • - [Ric] Chief of staff.
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  • - Yeah, the WhiteHouse chief of staff.
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  • And then Susan Rice, thenational security advisor.
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  • This, again, we saw JimComey testify and he said
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  • he'd never evenheard about this.
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  • We have a letteralso, Ric, you know,
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  • it was to PeterStruck from the CIA,
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  • which is sometimes unusual.
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  • You can't use itin court, they say.
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  • It's true, they've gottado their own investigation.
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  • Peter Struck gotthat September 7th.
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  • He's still on TV callingPresident Trump a Russian agent
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  • and he was told by theCIA in this letter.
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  • We can put it up on thescreen if we have it.
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  • But in this letter he's told
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  • you guys need to investigatewhat Hillary Clinton is up to.
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  • This whole thing may just be
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  • a way to distract from the fact
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  • that she had a privat serverwith classified info on it.
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  • - Yeah, and let mealso add that there are
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  • a couple of other piecesof information of people
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  • who have raised early red flags
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  • saying from thebeginning the Russians
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  • know that Hillary is doingthis opposition research.
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  • They know aboutthe Steele Dossier.
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  • And they are feedingin propaganda.
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  • Now, one of the things thatthe democrats have done
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  • through this whole thing
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  • is they've removed thephrase Russian propaganda.
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  • They don't use it anymore.
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  • They're calling itelection interference.
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  • The fact of the matter is
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  • they fell forRussian propaganda.
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  • But they knew it wasRussian propaganda.
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  • So it was more thanjust falling for it.
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  • They had this wholestrategy of pretending
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  • that Russianpropaganda was true.
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  • This is exactly what they did.
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  • Russian propagandawas used by them
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  • because they liked thedirt that was being thrown.
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  • Basically it was,
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  • we know it's fake news.
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  • We know it's a problem.
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  • But you know what, it'sgoing after Donald Trump,
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  • our political opponent.
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  • So let's just fan theflames a little bit.
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  • Now think about this Jordan.
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  • Your government
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  • is weaponizingintelligence agencies
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  • to go after theirpolitical opponents.
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  • That's really scaryand it has to be
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  • completely open andtransparent to the public
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  • as to what happened.
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  • What I'd like to know,
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  • because I think thatyou can dig a lot deeper
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  • if you have the namesthat are redacted.
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  • And then go after these staffers
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  • who have been coveringup for Hillary.
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  • And to see were those staffers
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  • working in the state department.
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  • Because a lot of theHillary Clinton staffers
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  • were buried into thestate department.
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  • I could list awhole bunch of names
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  • of people who wereappointed there
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  • who worked very closelyon European issues,let's say, okay.
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  • Because if HillaryClinton and the DOJ
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  • are working together topush Russian propaganda
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  • into the mainstream andutilizing our embassies,
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  • let's say London,
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  • and how the SteeleDossier was developed,
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  • and were utilizingthe state department
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  • and the agency and others.
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  • We need to open thatup and figure that out.
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  • - And they're feedingit out to it appears.
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  • This was even like pre Steele.
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  • They're already knowing that
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  • what's coming withSteele is bogus.
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  • And it's probably somethingHillary Clinton is pushing,
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  • which she was paying for,
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  • and the DNC was paying for.
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  • So to kind of formalize thisinto some kind of report
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  • they could start sharing.
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  • But the fact, Ric,
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  • that they justignored investigating.
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  • It doesn't looklike there's any.
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  • I think if Jim Comeycould have said,
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  • we looked into it.
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  • There was intel there
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  • but there wasn'tenough, it's something.
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  • But he took like what I call,
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  • it's a way to take the fifth
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  • without taking thefifth under oath
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  • when you just sayyou can't remember.
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  • That's his typical thing.
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  • But like you'vealways said to us,
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  • he may say that,
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  • but there's a whole lot ofpeople if Jim Comey knew.
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  • He didn't just findout on his own,
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  • mister copious note taker.
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  • - So I have seen the careerintelligence officials
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  • who have been sayingfrom the beginning
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  • early warnings,saying comments that
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  • this was all Russian propaganda.
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  • Those comments from careerintelligence officials,
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  • and I think our listenersneed to understand
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  • that there were peoplein the beginning
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  • who said this is baloney.
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  • Those voices, yourgovernment did work.
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  • Career intelligenceofficials saw this and said,
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  • this is Russianpropaganda and baloney.
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  • But those voices were silenced
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  • and their statementsclassified and pushed away
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  • by the politicalappointees under Obama.
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  • And this is where I thinkwhat we have to be honest with
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  • is that it was theObama administration
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  • that manipulatedcareer bureaucrats,
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  • silenced them for theirown political gain.
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  • I think that the,
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  • what people call the deepstate or the bureaucrats,
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  • should realize they'regetting thrown under the bus.
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  • Look what Jim Comey did.
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  • He is now claiming thathe knew nothing about this
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  • and that those underneath him
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  • were the ones whowere guilty of not
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  • raising their voice ordoing the right thing.
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  • So Comey is gonnaget away with this
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  • because career bureaucratsare going to be blamed.
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  • I have to say,
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  • our career bureaucrats,
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  • the career officialsin Washington DC,
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  • the intelligencecommunity officials,
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  • should absolutely come clean
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  • and start tellingus what they know.
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  • Because they're about tobe blamed by Jim Comey.
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  • - Ric, we're hearing reportsthat we're not gonna get
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  • anything from Durham anymore.
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  • We saw the one guiltyplea to the one count.
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  • The guy who, I mean,attorney who probably
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  • will never practicelaw again either
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  • and pled guilty to a felony.
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  • Who basically outed
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  • someone who is a US asset.
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  • Knew it was a US asset,
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  • took that information outof the email, sent it along.
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  • And so all thistalk about, oh well,
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  • yeah it wasn't a realmanipulation of FISA.
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  • You got rid of a USasset in Carter Page.
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  • To me, as thelegal side of this,
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  • outside of the ACLJ but onthe president's legal team,
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  • you know, this hasbeen our whole life
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  • outside the ACLJ for years,
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  • and unfortunately too muchof the president's time.
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  • All of our time, your time too.
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  • And it doesn't look likebefore election day,
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  • we're gonna get...
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  • Now I didn't say we get toall of it by election day.
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  • But it doesn't looklike by election day
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  • we're gonna see justice done,
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  • or even the beginningof justice being done.
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  • And that's I know to ouraudience extremely frustrating.
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  • But I think you can help themmaybe understand how difficult
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  • even when the presidenttweets out declassify it all.
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  • It's like, we didn'tget everything that day.
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  • How difficult thebureaucracy is.
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  • - Yeah, it's such a good point.
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  • I mean, I was thankfulthat the president
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  • is frustrated enoughwith this process
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  • and he's in touch with.
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  • - And he has the powerto do it under law.
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  • He can declassify anything hewants whenever he wants to.
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  • - And he's listeningto the people
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  • who are saying, weneed justice here.
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  • And so the presidentwhen he says a directive,
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  • go declassify this,
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  • the cabinet members shouldimmediately push through
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  • and just demand thatthis information
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  • get off the desksof bureaucrats.
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  • And I know it createsproblems where people say,
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  • oh, there's no due process.
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  • We've had a lot of due process.
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  • It's time to declassifyand put this out.
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  • And I think we haveto start holding
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  • cabinet members to account.
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  • If you can't do this thenyou shouldn't be there.
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  • - Yeah, if you can't doit, you shouldn't be there.
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  • If you feel like, youknow, just resign.
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  • And in this sense,
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  • if they refuse theycan be fired for cause.
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  • That's a way you canremove a bureaucrat.
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  • It's tougher without cause.
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  • Much easier with cause.
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  • If you refuse an order
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  • of the president ofthe United States.
  • 00:11:31.395 --> 00:11:32.864
  • They can declassify aspresident whatever they want
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  • whenever they want to.
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  • And they won't do it,you can fire them.
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  • - This is why I think we haveto have outsiders, Jordan.
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  • You can't have people who
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  • - [Jordan] Yeah, we'regonna talk about that
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  • when we come back.- live and work
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  • and breathe in Washington DC.
  • 00:11:44.008 --> 00:11:44.842
  • - The swamp, the swamp.
  • 00:11:44.842 --> 00:11:46.344
  • And we all have a lot ofexperience with the swamp
  • 00:11:46.344 --> 00:11:47.745
  • but we've never been the swamp.
  • 00:11:47.745 --> 00:11:49.213
  • Let's put it that way.
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  • We've never been the in crowd.
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  • We'll be right backon Jay Sekulow Live.
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  • - All right, welcomeback to Jay Sekulow Live.
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  • Ric Grennell is inthe studio with us,
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  • special advisor to the ACLJ.
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  • Former acting directorof national intelligence,
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  • ambassador, but you've also,
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  • since leaving those roleswith the government,
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  • joining us as a special advisor,
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  • you've been on thecampaign trail too, Ric.
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  • You've been travelingprobably more than most people
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  • because of COVID all aroundthe country, campaigning,
  • 00:14:55.350 --> 00:14:59.120
  • seeing the battleground states.
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  • Some people that listento this broadcast,
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  • you know, probably we're onin every state and every city.
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  • Some people, they don'tlive in battlegrounds.
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  • They're either in blue, in red,
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  • so they don't see the kindof intensity that's there.
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  • You have.
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  • Just first, yourinitial kind of reaction
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  • with the fact thatthe debate weirdness
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  • that's gone on this secondtime around with the debate.
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  • And we don't really know howpolitics is going to look
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  • with the president yet.
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  • Though he's been doingsome events already
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  • since the hospital stay.
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  • There's a lot of what-ifs.
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  • And of course on election day.
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  • But what are you gettin'from like the people
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  • on the ground inthe battlegrounds?
  • 00:15:34.789 --> 00:15:36.291
  • - So this is the exact question
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  • that the president askedme this past weekend.
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  • He's like, I need toknow the intensity.
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  • What are you hearing?
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  • And I love the factthat the president
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  • is totally focusedon the people.
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  • Not on the media spin.
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  • Not on what the GOPchairmen are saying.
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  • He literally wantsto know, you know,
  • 00:15:52.841 --> 00:15:55.010
  • are people making signs?
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  • Are they standing out?
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  • And what are they saying,the regular people?
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  • So I love it.
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  • And I have to say I've been
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  • throughout Nevada,Pennsylvania, and Ohio.
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  • Those are the three- All very important.
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  • - that I've been reallyconcentrating on.
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  • Others as well, but those threeI've been concentrating on.
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  • And I feel like the intensityin Nevada and Pennsylvania
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  • is way more than it was in 2016.
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  • - Even more so.- Even more so.
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  • - People out, more public,they're more public.
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  • - They're more public about it.
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  • Every single time I travel
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  • in Nevada, Ohio,and Pennsylvania,
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  • I hear people say, I didn'tvote for Trump in 2016.
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  • I am voting for him now.
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  • I have met one person
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  • who said I reluctantlyvoted for him in 2016
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  • and this time I'm not voting.
  • 00:16:40.922 --> 00:16:42.924
  • And I pressed hard on why
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  • and they didn'treally have an answer.
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  • - [Jordan] Of course.
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  • - But I will tell youthat 99% of the time,
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  • I'm talking to people
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  • who did not votefor Trump in 2016
  • 00:16:53.635 --> 00:16:56.171
  • but are convinced nowthrough his policies
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  • and through themedia manipulation.
  • 00:16:59.441 --> 00:17:01.576
  • People are really upset
  • 00:17:01.576 --> 00:17:03.445
  • that this guy, the outsider,
  • 00:17:03.445 --> 00:17:06.147
  • is constantlycriticized and pushed.
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  • I think the media havegone over the cliff
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  • and they're now helping uswith everything that's crazy.
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  • I mean look at NancyPelosi, you know,
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  • now trying to usethe 25th amendment.
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  • Ron Johnson said it best.
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  • This is a coup.
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  • There is a coup going on.
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  • New York Post this pastweekend on the front page.
  • 00:17:24.999 --> 00:17:28.570
  • Picture of Nancy Pelosiand it said, coup coup,
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  • C-O-U-P, C-O-U-P.
  • 00:17:31.773 --> 00:17:34.409
  • And this is where we're headed
  • 00:17:34.409 --> 00:17:36.711
  • is that they haven't acceptedthe 2016 election results.
  • 00:17:36.711 --> 00:17:41.282
  • Are they gonna accept the 2020?
  • 00:17:41.282 --> 00:17:43.385
  • - We know as partof the legal team,
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  • we've been looking atthe different scenarios
  • 00:17:45.153 --> 00:17:46.554
  • they start laying out.
  • 00:17:46.554 --> 00:17:48.056
  • So they've already laid outgoing back to impeachment
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  • if the president's reelected,
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  • and if the Senate's switched.
  • 00:17:52.127 --> 00:17:53.628
  • Which I don't think thatthose two would happen.
  • 00:17:54.829 --> 00:17:56.331
  • But if they did and theyhad any margin at all,
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  • just impeach, no reason.
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  • Just, we'll do an impeachment.
  • 00:18:01.169 --> 00:18:02.704
  • If you can't dothat, 25th amendment.
  • 00:18:02.704 --> 00:18:04.706
  • Maybe we can set up a committee
  • 00:18:04.706 --> 00:18:06.274
  • and this committee can removethe president, the coup.
  • 00:18:06.274 --> 00:18:09.010
  • And then they'realso, of course,
  • 00:18:09.010 --> 00:18:10.278
  • they look to evenif it's Joe Biden.
  • 00:18:10.278 --> 00:18:12.714
  • How can we get rid of him too?
  • 00:18:13.715 --> 00:18:15.583
  • I mean, this is,
  • 00:18:15.583 --> 00:18:17.419
  • one, it's a hugeseparation of powers issue.
  • 00:18:17.419 --> 00:18:20.422
  • But two, just for our audience,
  • 00:18:20.422 --> 00:18:23.925
  • those states you're inwhich I think the president,
  • 00:18:23.925 --> 00:18:25.960
  • you know, won by .2,.3% some of those.
  • 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:30.398
  • So very small margins
  • 00:18:30.398 --> 00:18:31.699
  • but they were historicto win as a Republican.
  • 00:18:31.699 --> 00:18:34.502
  • Pennsylvania, Ohio,
  • 00:18:34.502 --> 00:18:36.037
  • and Michigan, places likethat, Nevada to go back to.
  • 00:18:36.037 --> 00:18:40.942
  • But what do you think?
  • 00:18:41.676 --> 00:18:42.944
  • What would your messagebe to people out there?
  • 00:18:42.944 --> 00:18:45.346
  • So if they're in a red state,
  • 00:18:45.346 --> 00:18:47.415
  • what do they need to be doing?
  • 00:18:47.415 --> 00:18:49.317
  • And if they're notin a red state?
  • 00:18:49.317 --> 00:18:50.885
  • Like, you know,
  • 00:18:50.885 --> 00:18:52.353
  • I know that they can get active.
  • 00:18:52.353 --> 00:18:53.488
  • They can donate, they can share,
  • 00:18:53.488 --> 00:18:55.757
  • they can talk, they'vegot social media.
  • 00:18:55.757 --> 00:18:57.659
  • They can go volunteerwhen we get closer
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  • if it's a statethat's more open,
  • 00:19:00.061 --> 00:19:02.197
  • going door to door.
  • 00:19:02.197 --> 00:19:03.431
  • You can actuallygo there and help.
  • 00:19:03.431 --> 00:19:04.933
  • But what do you thinkpeople in the battlegrounds
  • 00:19:04.933 --> 00:19:08.236
  • who are being inundatedwith it every day,
  • 00:19:08.236 --> 00:19:10.738
  • you've been with 'em.
  • 00:19:10.738 --> 00:19:12.173
  • What do you think's thebest thing they can do?
  • 00:19:12.173 --> 00:19:14.275
  • - So I've got threepoints to make.
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  • One, if you're in a red county,
  • 00:19:16.211 --> 00:19:18.480
  • this is how we win.
  • 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:19.781
  • This is a base election.
  • 00:19:19.781 --> 00:19:21.649
  • You have to drag everybodythat is a Trump supporter,
  • 00:19:21.649 --> 00:19:25.220
  • or somebody who isleaning towards Trump,
  • 00:19:25.220 --> 00:19:27.121
  • or if they votedwould vote for Trump.
  • 00:19:27.121 --> 00:19:29.190
  • Don't spend your time trying
  • 00:19:29.190 --> 00:19:30.291
  • to convince the middle anymore.
  • 00:19:30.291 --> 00:19:31.993
  • It is about gettingevery single person
  • 00:19:31.993 --> 00:19:34.796
  • who supports Trump to vote.
  • 00:19:34.796 --> 00:19:36.931
  • We won Pennsylvania becausewe took the red counties
  • 00:19:36.931 --> 00:19:40.368
  • and made 'em blood red.
  • 00:19:40.368 --> 00:19:41.970
  • We made 'em incrediblyhigh voter turnout.
  • 00:19:41.970 --> 00:19:46.007
  • That's the first point.
  • 00:19:46.007 --> 00:19:47.275
  • The second point is ifyou live in Michigan,
  • 00:19:47.275 --> 00:19:49.611
  • it's incredibly importantto go vote for John James.
  • 00:19:49.611 --> 00:19:52.747
  • You have to get out andmake that senate seat flip.
  • 00:19:52.747 --> 00:19:56.050
  • That could be the reasonwhy we hold the senate,
  • 00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:59.854
  • why we get Trump'snominations through,
  • 00:19:59.854 --> 00:20:02.223
  • and how president Trumpafter he's reelected
  • 00:20:02.223 --> 00:20:04.726
  • is not impeached again.
  • 00:20:04.726 --> 00:20:07.529
  • We have to hold the senate.
  • 00:20:07.529 --> 00:20:09.130
  • John James is a keythere to flipping that.
  • 00:20:09.130 --> 00:20:12.367
  • Let's get people out to vote.
  • 00:20:12.367 --> 00:20:13.801
  • The other thing that Iwould say, the third point,
  • 00:20:13.801 --> 00:20:17.205
  • is if you live in Colorado,
  • 00:20:17.205 --> 00:20:18.640
  • please get out andvote for Cory Gardner.
  • 00:20:19.774 --> 00:20:21.943
  • If we can hold that seat,
  • 00:20:21.943 --> 00:20:23.745
  • they may not be ableto flip the senate.
  • 00:20:23.745 --> 00:20:26.247
  • Michigan, Colorado,incredibly important.
  • 00:20:26.247 --> 00:20:27.482
  • - And that's so key ifpresident Trump wins
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  • or they're gonna be comin'after with impeachment.
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  • Any way, even ifit isn't successful
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  • by the votes that they need.
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  • They won't have thevotes to actually do it.
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  • They will be able to impedethe presidency yet again.
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  • I think the president didan excellent job, Ric,
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  • of being able to kind of,
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  • he would work with uswhen we needed to on that.
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  • And then most of the time,
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  • I will tell you that happenedvery late in the evening.
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  • And during the day he didthe American people's work
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  • until very late in the evening.
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  • And then when it wastime to deal with Mueller
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  • and it was time todeal with impeachment
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  • and leading up to that,
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  • it was again, if anything evercame up it was late at night.
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  • But if anything ever cameup for the American people,
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  • that's where his firstpriority always has been.
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  • But you mentionedlike John James.
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  • You said it because he'srunning in Michigan.
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  • He's very close, tight race,
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  • within the margin of error.- Very tight.
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  • - Great candidate.
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  • And I'm not gonna tell people,
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  • we don't tell peopleto vote for on this.
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  • But you know, you'relooking for our information,
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  • what we think.
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  • There are ways that peopledown the ballot can also help.
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  • - [Ric] Yeah absolutely.
  • 00:21:28.710 --> 00:21:30.078
  • - And push outturnout, but also,
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  • we don't want to justreelect President Trump.
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  • We need to keep the senate.
  • 00:21:35.083 --> 00:21:36.985
  • - Yep, it's soincredibly important.
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  • The Michigan flip would be huge.
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  • Colorado holding Cory Gardner.
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  • - And Cory did the rightthing on Judge Barrett.
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  • You know, he cameright out and he said,
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  • in a tough reelection battle
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  • where he could havetried to not say anything
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  • or kinda waffle through it,
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  • he came right out andsaid, no I support it.
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  • - Listen, Cory Gardner isa thoughtful politician
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  • who really looks at the data.
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  • He's not knee jerk.
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  • He is somebody thatI would even argue,
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  • the thoughtfulness of Cory,
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  • and his ability tokind of push through
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  • on some of these difficultissues by being thoughtful
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  • doesn't always getrewarded by voters.
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  • Because they wantsomebody to be loud
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  • and look at black andwhite issues completely.
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  • You know, taking one quickside, being knee jerk.
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  • That's not Cory.
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  • I think we shouldreward him for that.
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  • - It was great to haveRic in the studio.
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  • He'll still be onwith us though a lot.
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  • Thank you Ric, thanksfor bein' with us.
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  • You know, we have Ricas a special advisor
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  • 'cause of yoursupport to the ACLJ.
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