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November 6, 2018
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW LIVE.
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  • PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • AND NOW CHIEF COUNSEL
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  • FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
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  • JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • JAY SEKULOW: HI EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO THE
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  • BROADCAST. WELL, THIS IS THE
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  • FIRST DAY THAT PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON HAS ACTUALLY ADDRESSED
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  • THE MEDIA OTHER THAN THE INCREDIBLE MOMENT ON SUNDAY WHEN
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  • HE WAS IN THE OVAL OFFICE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
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  • STATES. WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANDREW BRUNSON, THE PASTOR, JOIN US ON
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  • OUR BROADCAST IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. LET ME GIVE YOU A SENSE
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  • OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE: THIS MAN HAS BEEN RELEASED
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  • FROM JAIL ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO TO HOUSE ARREST. COULDN'T LEAVE
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  • HIS HOUSE BUT IT WAS IN JAIL FOR OVER TWO YEARS. HIS CRIME WAS
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  • CHRISTIANIZATION. I MEAN THAT'S- AND THEY CALLED IT THERE
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  • TERRORISM, BUT THEY ACTUALLY USE IN THE INDICTMENT ITSELF THE
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  • WORD CHRISTIANISATION. -YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, SO WHAT IS
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  • ACTUALLY IT'S IT'S UNIQUE IS THAT WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THE
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  • TURKISH CHARGING DOCUMENTS, BY THE WAY DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL
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  • MARCH OF 2018 AFTER HE WAS ARRESTED AND INCARCERATED IN
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  • OCTOBER OF 2016, SO NO CHARGES WERE FILED AGAINST HIM UNTIL
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  • THIS YEAR EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND IN THOSE CHARGES A WHOLE HOST OF
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  • ISSUES INCLUDING WHAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION MEANS AND ETERN-
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  • AND THIS TERM CHARGE OF CHRISTIANISATION, IS HOW IT
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  • TRANSLATED FROM TURKISH. SO, WHEN YOU SEE THESE REPORTS
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  • ABOUT: WHAT IS TERRORISM? WHAT IS WHAT IS ESPIONAGE? REMEMBER,
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  • IT'S A GOVERNMENT THAT IS MOVING MORE ISLAMIST. SO,
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  • CHRISTIANISATION WOULD FIT IN THOSE PRETTY EXTREME CATEGORIES
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  • AS KIND OF A TAKEOVER ATTEMPT OF A COUNTRY THAT'S
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  • PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM. JAY SEKULOW: CECE, YOU WERE WORKING
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  • WITH THE UNITED NATIONS ON THIS, AS WELL AS WITH THE LAWYERS IN
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  • TURKEY. BUT IT'S IT'S IT SOUNDS BIZARRE TO US THAT RUNNING A
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  • CHURCH THAT HAD ABOUT 25 OR 30 PEOPLE IN IT WOULD CONSTITUTE A
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  • THREAT TO THE GOVERNMENT. BUT IN THE VIEW OF THE TURKISH
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  • AUTHORITIES, THEY WEREN'T KIDDING WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY
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  • THAT IT WAS IN THEIR VIEW. CECE HEIL: ABSOLUTELY. JAY SEKULOW:IT
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  • WAS POLITICAL, A POLITICAL BARGAIN. CECE HEIL: THAT IS WHAT
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  • IS SO DISCONCERTING, IS THAT IT WAS CHRISTIANISATION WAS
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  • LITERALLY HIS CRIME. TERRORISM AND ESPIONAGE, WE'VE HEARD THOSE
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  • WORDS, BUT CHRISTIANISATION IS WHAT TURKEY WAS SAYING ELEVATED
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  • TO THAT CRIME. AND HE WAS SIMPLY A PASTOR PASTOR THERE FOR 23
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  • YEARS, BUT AFTER THE FAILED COUP ATTEMPT IN 26- JULY OF 2016-
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  • ANYBODY WHO WAS DEEMED AN ENEMY WOULD YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOT
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  • CAUGHT- SWEPT UP IN THIS PURGE AND THAT INCLUDES CHRISTIANS.
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  • JAY SEKULOW: SO, THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS: PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON
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  • IS AT HOME WITH HIS WIFE, NOREEN. THEY WERE ON SOME OF THE
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  • BROADCAST NETWORKS THIS MORNING. THEY'RE GONNA BE JOINED WITH US
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  • IN JUST A FEW MINUTES AFTER WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK. AND
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  • OUR PHONE LINES ARE ALREADY JAMMING UP. AND WE WILL TAKE
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  • THOSE CALLS WHEN WE COME BACK AT 800-684-3110. WE'LL BE JOINED
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  • WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BACK FROM THE BREAK FROM, BY PASTOR
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  • ANDREW BRUNSON. YOUR SUPPORT AND PRAYERS FOR THAT PASTOR MADE A
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  • HUGE DIFFERENCE. YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE ACLJ MADE A HUGE
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  • DIFFERENCE. WE MOBILIZED OUR ASSETS, LITERALLY AROUND THE
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  • GLOBE. WE HAD OUR OFFICES IN STRASBURG, FRANCE, NEW YORK, OF
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  • COURSE WASHINGTON, OUR MEDIA CENTER HERE, EVERYWHERE ENGAGED
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  • FULLY ON THIS CASE. AND THE END RESULT WAS, BECAUSE OF THE
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  • VALIENT EFFORTS OF THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT,
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  • AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE WITH THE A, OUR TEAM, LEAD BY CECE
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  • HEIL THAT WE HAD A GREAT RESULT. BUT THAT RESULT WOULD NOT HAVE
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  • HAPPENED WITHOUT GOD INVEENING. UNDERSTAND THAT. IN EVERYONE OF
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  • THESE CASES, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU DO ALL YOU CAN DO,
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  • WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT THE HEART OF THE KING IS
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  • IN THE HAND OF THE LORD AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AS IN ANY
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  • OTHER. SO, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS. AND WE ARE GLAD TO SEE
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  • THAT PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON IS HOME. WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE
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  • AHEAD. CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT ARE PERSECUTED FOR
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  • THEIR FAITH. CONTINUE TO BE IN PRISONS AROUND THE WORLD THIS IS
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  • A GREAT MOMENT, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK WITH ANDREW BRUNSON WHEN WE
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  • COME BACK FROM THE BREAK.
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  • HAPPY TO SAY, OUR CLIENT, PASTOR
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  • ANDREW BRUNSON, WHO IS NOW BACK HOME IN THE UNITED STATES, WAS
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  • AT THE OVAL OFFICE WITH THE PRESIDENT. CECE HEIL WAS THERE
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  • AS WELL ON SUNDAY AND TOOK THE DAY OFF- NOW EXCUSE ME THAT WAS
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  • SATURDAY. SUNDAY AND MONDAY KIND OF TOOK A DAY TO RECOVER AND
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  • THEN DID SOME MEDIA INTERVIEWS THIS MORNING. WE'RE THRILLED
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  • THAT HE'S WITH US. PASTOR, BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING TO YOU,
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  • LET ME SAY WHAT PAMELA ON FACEBOOK SAYS: SO THANKFUL FOR
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  • YOUR FREEDOM, PASTOR BRUNSON. ANDREW, WELCOME TO THE
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  • BROADCAST. PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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  • JAY SEKULOW: I WANT IT- I WANT IT, I THINK, FOR ON BEHALF OF
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  • OUR ENTIRE AUDIENCE, LET YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW THIS, BECAUSE
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  • WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL, YOU'VE LITERALLY HAD THE WORLD
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  • PRAYING FOR YOU. AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING TO US THE
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  • MILLIONS OF LISTENERS BROADCAST EVERY DAY, WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU
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  • WITHOUT CEASING. BUT CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR FOLKS, I THINK THIS
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  • IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND, YOU WERE IN TURKEY
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  • FOR A LONG TIME, 23 YEARS. WHAT YOU WERE DOING IN TURKEY AND
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  • WHAT YOUR ACTIVITIES WERE AND THEN WE'LL BRING A CURRENT. BUT
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  • WHAT WERE YOU THERE AS A MISSION? PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON:
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  • CAN I- CAN I FIRST SAY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THE
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  • PEOPLE WHO PRAYED FOR US. AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR ACLJ DID
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  • SUCH A TREMENDOUS JOB FIGHTING FOR US. AND CECE HEIL WAS
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  • TIRELESS IN ADVOCATING FOR US, AND YOU ALSO JAY. AND FOR CECE,
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  • I KNOW IT SHE'S A BRILLIANT LAWYER, BUT SHE WAS ALSO,
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  • PERSONALLY INVOLVED CALLING NOREEN, ENCOURAGING HER, IN SO
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  • MANY WAYS. AND AND YOU ALSO JAY. AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT ACLJ
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  • TOOK THIS ON, AND WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHAT A WHAT A
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  • TREMENDOUS HELP THIS WAS AND AND HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE TO YOU. JAY
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  • SEKULOW: WELL LOOK, WE ARE THRILLED THAT THE RESULT WAS AS
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  • IT WAS. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER CASE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE WE HAVEN'T
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  • HAD THAT RESULT RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS A REPRESENTING ASIA,
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  • HELPING ASIA BIBI AND OUR OFFICE IN PAKISTAN. BUT YOUR CASE ENDED
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  • SUCCESSFULLY, BUT YOU WERE THERE IN PRISON IN TURKEY IN VERY
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  • DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT I THINK IT'S- I'LL TAKE THE CALL
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  • IN A MINUTE HERE- BUT ANDREW SIT FOR THE FOLKS: WHAT YOU WOULD-
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  • HOW LONG YOU'D BEEN THERE AND WHAT YOU WERE DOING IN TURKEY.
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  • WHAT WAS YOUR CALL TO GO THERE? PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: WELL, WE
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  • WERE THERE FOR 23 YEARS BEFORE I WAS ARRESTED AND OUR MAIN GOAL
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  • WAS TO GO AND PREACH JESUS CHRIST. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS
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  • WE WERE INVOLVED IN WAS CHURCH PLANTING. WE WERE INVOLVED IN
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  • SEVERAL CHURCH PLANTS. AND THEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN
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  • THERE WAS A SURGE OF SYRIAN REFUGEES, BECAUSE OF THE ISIS
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  • ATTACKS IN SYRIA. A NUMBER OF REFUGEES CAME INTO TURKEY AND WE
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  • SAW AN OPPORTUNITY, NOT ONLY TO SHOW THE LOVE OF JESUS BY
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  • HELPING THEM HUMANITARIAN AID, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO HAD NEVER
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  • HAD ACCESS TO THE GOSPEL, MOST KURDS HAVE NEVER MET A CHRISTIAN
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  • IN THEIR LIVES, AND IN SYRIA YOU COULDN'T PREACH THE GOSPEL, IT
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  • WAS FORBIDDEN. SO, WE GOT INVOLVED WITH SYRIAN REFUGEES
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  • AND WERE- STARTED A MEETING AMONG THEM AND WE'RE DOING
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  • EVANGELISM WITH THEM. JAY SEKULOW: SO, YOU WERE THERE AS
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  • BASICALLY, AS A MISSIONARY. I MEAN WE COULD SAFELY SAY THAT-
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  • NO WE COULD NOT SAY THAT WHILE YOU WERE THERE, OBVIOUSLY,
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  • BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION YOU WERE IN, BUT YOU WERE THERE
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  • SHARING THE GOSPEL THAT WAS WHAT YOUR JOB WAS. PASTOR ANDREW
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  • BRUNSON: WE DID IT AND WE DID IT VERY OPENLY. WE WE DID
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  • EVERYTHING IN THE OPEN. OUR CHURCHES WERE OPEN TO THE
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  • PUBLIC. THE MISSION WORK TOO SYRIANS WAS ALL DONE OUT IN THE
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  • OPEN. -YEAH, BEFORE WE TAKE THE CALLS, PASTOR BRUNSON A
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  • QUESTION. OVER THOSE 23 YEARS ANY SERIOUS ISSUES WITH THE
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  • GOVERNMENT? A LOCAL REGIONAL GOVERNMENT OR THE NATIONAL
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  • GOVERNMENT IN TURKEY AT ALL? PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: WELL,
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  • THERE ARE CYCLES SOMETIMES THEY'RE MORE ACCOMMODATING THE
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  • CHURCHES AND TO CHRISTIANS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S A BIT OF
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  • TIGHTENING UP. WE HAD- THERE OFTEN- RATHER THAN FROM THE
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  • GOVERNMENT, IT'S FROM OTHER PEOPLE, WHO WILL SOMETIMES THERE
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  • WILL BE THREATS. BOMB THREATS, DEATH THREATS, WE WERE ATTACKED
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  • ONCE IN OUR CHURCH WITH A MAN CAME WITH A SHOTGUN. SO THAT'S
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  • ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY. IT'S NOT JUST US, ANYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED
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  • IN CHURCH PLANTING IN TURKEY CAN HAVE THOSE KINDS OF DANGERS, BUT
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  • IT'S NOT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. - SO, THIS WAS THIS WAS, IN A
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  • SENSE, A NEW EFFORT TO ARREST YOU AND TRY YOU AND ONE OF THE
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  • ONE OF THE CHARGES WAS CHRISTIANISATION. SO, NO-
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  • NOTHING LIKE THIS EVER EXPERIENCED. THE THESE THREATS
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  • EXPERIENCED, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD, BUT
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  • BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD NOT HAPPENED
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  • OVER 23 YEARS. PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: NO, IT WAS AN
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  • UNPRECEDENTED THING. JAY SEKULOW: YES, SO THERE'S ONE
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  • FOLLOW-UP THING WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW I SAID YOUR CASE IS CLOSED,
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  • AND THAT'S A GREAT THING BECAUSE YOU'RE HOME AND AND AND WE'RE
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  • GONNA GET INTO WHAT'S WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU. BUT CECE, YOU'VE
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  • GOT IT WE STILL HAVE ONE LEGAL ISSUE WHERE YOU GOT TO FINISH UP
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  • WITH. AND THAT WAS THE U.N. COMMISSION ON ARBITRARY
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  • DETENTION. CECE HEIL: RIGHT. JAY SEKULOW: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
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  • CECE HEIL: YEAH. JAY SEKULOW: THEY ENGAGED ON THIS. CECE HEIL:
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  • ABSOLUTELY, THE WORKING GROUP ON ARBITRARY DETENTION ENGAGED AND
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  • THEY- WE PRESENTED THE WHOLE CASE TO THEM. THEY'RE STILL
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  • MAKING THEIR DECISION AND SO, THEN I HAVE TO NOW FINALIZE WITH
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  • THEM WHAT THE DECISION WAS WITH THE COURT, THAT HE'S BACK,
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  • UPDATE THEM WITH WITH ACTUALLY THAT DECISION, AND THE
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  • CONVICTION AND AND WHAT THE RELEASE CONDITIONS WERE. JAY
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  • SEKULOW: ALL RIGHT, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, THERE'S A LOT OF
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  • YOU CALLING, I MEAN OUR PHONE LINES ARE LITERALLY JAMMED,
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  • FACEBOOK COMMENTS COMING IN. ELEANOR SAYS, GOD IS SO GOOD.
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  • SO HAPPY THE PASTOR BRUNSON IS FREE. CHRISTINE SAYS, WELCOME
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  • HOME PASTOR BRUNSON. YOU'RE TRULY HERE DUE TO ANSWERED
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  • PRAYER, SO WE GIVE ALL THE PRAISE AND THANKSGIVING TO GOD"
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  • AND I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BROADCAST, ANDREW AND I
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  • DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT IT AND I SAID THIS, AND I MEANT IT, I
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  • MEAN I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE LEGAL WORK THAT WAS DONE BY OUR
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  • TEAM THAT WAS LED BY CECE. I'M THRILLED WITH THE WORK THE THANN
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  • BENNETT DID IN WASHINGTON ON A GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SHOP AND GREG
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  • ORPOPONICK, WHO RUNS OUR OFFICE IN STRASBOURG, FRANCE AND AND
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  • IT'S JUST A GREAT JOB. AND AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF- THAT I WAS
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  • REPRESENTING YOU AND THEN ENDED UP REPRESENTING THE PRESIDENT, I
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  • MEAN, YOU, NONE OF- NOBODY COULD HAVE PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER. AT
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  • THE END OF THE DAY THESE THOUGH, I BELIEVE, THAT WOULD- AND TO
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  • TAKE NOTHING AWAY FROM ANYONE, THAT THE LORD WAS IN THIS AND
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  • THAT'S THAT'S HOW THESE THINGS HAPPEN. AND I'M GLAD THAT
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  • EVERYBODY I'M GLAD FOR THE TENACIOUS ADVOCACY BY OUR LEGAL
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  • TEAM, BY THE PRESIDENT, BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE, BUT WE DO
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  • ALSO HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS ALSO DUE. THAT'S JUST
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  • THE WAY WE FEEL INSTITUTIONALLY. BUT LET ME DO THIS, WE- ANDREW,
  • 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.290
  • WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO TALK TO YOU SO, YOU STAY ON
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  • THAT PHONE AND WE'RE GONNA START TAKING CALLS. - YES, KAREN IS
  • 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:28.220
  • CALLING IN FROM NEW YORK, ON LINE 2. KAREN, WELCOME TO JAY
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  • SEKULOW LIVE. JAY SEKULOW: HI KAREN, YOU'RE ON WITH PASTOR
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  • BRUNSON. KAREN: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL AND I JUST WANTED
  • 00:10:34.290 --> 00:10:37.270
  • TO TELL PASTOR BRUNSON, I PRAYED FOR HIM DAILY. I'M SO THANKFUL
  • 00:10:37.280 --> 00:10:42.020
  • FOR PRAYERS ANSWERED THAT HE'S HOME. AND I WANTED TO LET HIM
  • 00:10:42.030 --> 00:10:45.240
  • KNOW WHAT AN INSPIRATION HE IS. WHAT A TESTIMONY AS A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:10:45.250 --> 00:10:50.060
  • TO OTHER CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND THE LIGHT THAT HE
  • 00:10:50.070 --> 00:10:54.220
  • WAS IN THE DARKNESS. AND I JUST THANK HIM FOR THAT. HE REALLY
  • 00:10:54.230 --> 00:10:58.270
  • INSPIRED ME AS A CHRISTIAN TO BE BOLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO
  • 00:10:58.280 --> 00:11:04.170
  • OTHERS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLED TO DO. SO, I WANT TO THANK HIM
  • 00:11:04.180 --> 00:11:08.090
  • AND TELL HIM HOW HAPPY I AM TO HAVE HIM BACK IN THE UNITED
  • 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:11.010
  • STATES. JAY SEKULOW: WELL, THEN WHILE- YOU'RE TALKING RIGHT TO
  • 00:11:11.020 --> 00:11:13.060
  • HIM. ANDREW, WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU SAY TO KAREN. PASTOR ANDREW
  • 00:11:13.070 --> 00:11:16.010
  • BRUNSON: WELL, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR KAREN'S PRAYERS AND
  • 00:11:16.020 --> 00:11:19.150
  • FOR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO PRAYED FOR US, AND WE BELIEVE
  • 00:11:19.160 --> 00:11:23.060
  • OBVIOUSLY, GOD USES PEOPLE, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WAS MOVING
  • 00:11:23.070 --> 00:11:28.180
  • THIS AND WHAT BROUGHT OUR NAME UP TO THIS LEVEL WITH THE
  • 00:11:28.190 --> 00:11:32.270
  • PRESIDENT WAS PRAYERS OF GOD'S PEOPLE. AND BUT I ALSO THINK
  • 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:37.120
  • THAT AS WE LOOK AT IT, WE THINK WELL WE'RE NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT
  • 00:11:37.130 --> 00:11:41.000
  • OR IMPORTANCE FOR OUR NAME TO RISE, AND FOR SO MANY PEOPLE TO
  • 00:11:41.010 --> 00:11:45.040
  • PRAY FOR US WE THINK THAT THERE WAS MUCH MORE THAT GOD WAS
  • 00:11:45.050 --> 00:11:48.120
  • DOING. AND I LOOK AT IT AS ALMOST LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT A
  • 00:11:48.130 --> 00:11:52.200
  • PUZZLE BUT FROM THE BOTTOM SIDE AND SOMEDAY WE WILL LOOK FROM
  • 00:11:52.210 --> 00:11:56.230
  • THE TOP AND WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE PICTURE. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T
  • 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.260
  • SEE THE FULL PICTURE BUT GOD WAS DOING MUCH MORE THAN JUST USING
  • 00:11:59.270 --> 00:12:03.160
  • PRAYERS TO RELEASE ME FROM PRISON. I THINK, THERE WAS- HE
  • 00:12:03.170 --> 00:12:08.100
  • WAS JUST POURING PRAYER FROM GOD'S PEOPLE INTO TURKEY AND
  • 00:12:08.110 --> 00:12:12.010
  • INTO THE MIDDLE EAST, AND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT
  • 00:12:12.020 --> 00:12:15.260
  • HARVEST FROM THIS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALL OF WHAT- ALL OF THE
  • 00:12:15.270 --> 00:12:19.100
  • RESULTS YET, BUT I THINK THERE'S THERE WAS MUCH BIGGER THAN US.
  • 00:12:19.110 --> 00:12:23.290
  • JAY SEKULOW: I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. AND AGAIN, I THINK THE
  • 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:25.290
  • CONFLUENCE OF ACT- EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE HERE WAS PRETTY
  • 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.230
  • UNPRECEDENTED. I SAY THAT- I MEAN, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE
  • 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.120
  • REPRESENTING YOU, AS I SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW I'D BE END UP
  • 00:12:31.130 --> 00:12:33.050
  • REPRESENTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THEN YOU
  • 00:12:33.060 --> 00:12:35.210
  • HAD THE THE ABILITY TO USE THIS PLATFORM, THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT
  • 00:12:35.220 --> 00:12:39.050
  • NOW, WE'RE TALKING TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND ON FACEBOOK AND
  • 00:12:39.060 --> 00:12:42.070
  • PERISCOPE AND ALL THESE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND YOU'RE
  • 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.270
  • RIGHT, AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT YOUR YOUR GOAL WAS TO
  • 00:12:44.280 --> 00:12:47.150
  • PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL AND YOU YOU'RE DOING THAT. YOU'VE DONE
  • 00:12:47.160 --> 00:12:49.210
  • THAT AND I'M SURE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT WE HAVE
  • 00:12:49.220 --> 00:12:51.240
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK TO YOU, SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP
  • 00:12:51.250 --> 00:12:53.160
  • GOING BACK TO THESE PHONES, JORDAN. JORDAN: YEAH, LET'S GO
  • 00:12:53.170 --> 00:12:55.110
  • TO SCOTT IN COLORADO, ON LINE ONE. SCOTT, WELCOME TO JAY
  • 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:58.100
  • SEKULOW LIVE. YOU'RE TALKING TO PASTOR BRUNSON. JAY SEKULOW: HEY
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  • SCOTT. SCOTT: HEY GUYS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING- THANK YOU JAY
  • 00:13:00.260 --> 00:13:05.120
  • AND YOUR TEAM FOR YOUR YOUR FOCUS ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. NOT
  • 00:13:05.130 --> 00:13:08.140
  • JUST DOMESTICALLY, BUT ALSO, INTERNATIONALLY. IT'S A GREAT
  • 00:13:08.150 --> 00:13:11.070
  • STATEMENT THAT THIS IS MAKING. JAY SEKULOW: THANKS. SCOTT: I
  • 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:13.290
  • HAVE TWO TWO BRIEF QUESTIONS. UH FIRST OF ALL, PASTOR BRUNSON,
  • 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.080
  • HOW ARE YOU TREATED IN THE PRISON? BECAUSE YOU SEEM LIKE,
  • 00:13:16.090 --> 00:13:19.290
  • KIND OF FAIRLY HEALTHY WHEN YOU GOT RELEASED. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT
  • 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.260
  • TO EXPECT SINCE YOU WERE THERE THAT LONG. AND NUMBER TWO, ARE
  • 00:13:22.270 --> 00:13:27.010
  • YOU GOING TO WRITE A BOOK ON YOUR EXPERIENCE? IT'S GOT BE
  • 00:13:27.020 --> 00:13:29.090
  • FASCINATING TO SEE WHAT THIS WAS LIKE FROM THE INSIDE OF A
  • 00:13:29.100 --> 00:13:32.100
  • TURKISH PRISON AND WERE YOU ABLE TO DO MINISTRY IN THAT? JAY
  • 00:13:32.110 --> 00:13:35.200
  • SEKULOW: THOSE- THAT'S THREE QUESTIONS, BUT THOSE ARE GOOD,
  • 00:13:35.210 --> 00:13:38.100
  • SCOTT, LET'S START WITH YOUR HEALTH BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:39.200
  • ARE GETTING THAT ON FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA TOO. PEOPLE WANT TO
  • 00:13:39.210 --> 00:13:41.220
  • KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING ANDREW. PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: MY HEALTH
  • 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:44.000
  • IS GOOD NOW. WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN I WAS ARRESTED, I I HAD A
  • 00:13:44.010 --> 00:13:48.140
  • LOT OF FEAR AND I AS I LOOK BACK NOW I SAID IT'S TWO YEARS, BUT
  • 00:13:48.150 --> 00:13:55.200
  • WHEN I STARTED I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE TWO YEARS
  • 00:13:55.210 --> 00:13:58.090
  • OF THE REST OF MY LIFE. AND THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE
  • 00:13:58.100 --> 00:14:01.060
  • CHARGES AGAINST ME DEMANDED THREE LIFE SENTENCES. AGGRAVATED
  • 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:07.030
  • LIFE SENTENCES, WHICH WOULD HAVE MEANT A LIFE IN PRISON AND
  • 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:10.180
  • SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. SO, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO
  • 00:14:10.190 --> 00:14:14.110
  • GET OUT. SO, I HAD A LOT OF FEAR. FOR 18 MONTHS I DIDN'T
  • 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:18.230
  • EVEN KNOW WHAT I WAS CHARGED WITH. AND DURING THAT TIME,
  • 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.270
  • DURING THE FIRST EIGHT MONTHS OF PRISON, I LOST ABOUT 50 POUNDS
  • 00:14:22.280 --> 00:14:26.150
  • JUST FROM THE STRESS. JAY SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE
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  • AHEAD. CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT AR PERSECUTED FOR
  • 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.100
  • THEIR FAITH; CONTINUE TO BE IN PRISONS AROUND THE WORLD. THIS
  • 00:14:30.110 --> 00:14:34.020
  • IS A GREAT MOMENT, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK WITH PASTOR ANDREW
  • 00:14:34.030 --> 00:14:36.020
  • BRUNSON, WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • WELCOME BACK TO THE BROADCAST
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  • EVERYONE. WE'RE JOINED BY PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON. AND WE'RE
  • 00:14:44.140 --> 00:14:46.160
  • THRILLED TO HAVE HIM. THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD HIM ON OUR RADIO
  • 00:14:46.170 --> 00:14:48.020
  • BROADCAST, OBVIOUSLY, JUST OUT OF TURKEY AND WE ARE GLAD THAT
  • 00:14:48.030 --> 00:14:52.010
  • HE'S HOME IN THE UNITED STATES. HAVING SAID THAT, I KNOW PASTOR
  • 00:14:52.020 --> 00:14:54.170
  • YOUR HEART THOUGH IS FOR THE WAS FOR THE PEOPLE OF TURKEY AND I'M
  • 00:14:54.180 --> 00:14:58.050
  • SURE THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: NO. WE WE
  • 00:14:58.060 --> 00:15:00.270
  • STILL LOVE TURKEY GOD PUT THIS ON HER HEART YEARS AGO AND WE
  • 00:15:00.280 --> 00:15:05.110
  • ARE EXPECTING THAT THERE WILL BE A GREAT HARVEST IN TURKEY. JAY
  • 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.280
  • SEKULOW: YEAH. SO, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR, YOU SAID
  • 00:15:07.290 --> 00:15:10.080
  • YOU WERE BROKEN. IN JAN- YOU WERE- WE COVERED HERE
  • 00:15:10.090 --> 00:15:13.060
  • EXTENSIVELY, YOU HAD YOU WERE IN A JAIL WITH 22 PEOPLE THAT WAS
  • 00:15:13.070 --> 00:15:17.120
  • ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR EIGHT. YOU HAD VERY HARSH CONDITIONS.
  • 00:15:17.130 --> 00:15:21.190
  • TALK ABOUT THE SECOND YEAR. PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: YEAH, SO
  • 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.040
  • THE FIRST YEAR I FEEL LIKE I WAS BROKEN DOWN AND SHATTERED AGAIN
  • 00:15:24.050 --> 00:15:28.050
  • AND AGAIN. AND THEN THE SECOND YEAR IS WHEN I FEEL THAT GOD
  • 00:15:28.060 --> 00:15:31.260
  • BEGAN TO REBUILD ME. AND A LOT OF THAT HAPPENED JUST WITH SMALL
  • 00:15:31.270 --> 00:15:36.170
  • VICTORIES. BIG- DECLARING TRUTH, DECLARING THAT GOD IS WITH ME, I
  • 00:15:36.180 --> 00:15:42.170
  • THINK OF ISIAH 50:10 BECAME A VERSE FOR ME, WHERE WHEN WE'RE
  • 00:15:42.180 --> 00:15:47.260
  • WALKING IN THE DARK, WE HOLD ON TO OUR GOD. SO, I FELT THAT I
  • 00:15:47.270 --> 00:15:52.130
  • WAS WALKING IN THE DARK AND IT WAS A TIME WHEN GOD BEGAN TO
  • 00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:57.130
  • REBUILD ME SLOWLY. I WROTE A SONG WHERE I'M DECLARING HIS
  • 00:15:57.140 --> 00:16:00.120
  • LOVE FOR ME AND HIS FAITHFULNESS. AND ESPECIALLY
  • 00:16:00.130 --> 00:16:03.290
  • FOCUSING ON THE IDEA OF ENDURING TILL THE END AND BEING FAITHFUL
  • 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:08.280
  • IN THAT. JAY SEKULOW: WELL, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN AND AND
  • 00:16:08.290 --> 00:16:12.270
  • THAT'S GREAT. CECE, I KNOW THAT WE- I REMEMBER IN THIS VERY
  • 00:16:12.280 --> 00:16:14.230
  • STUDIO, WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT THOSE CONDITIONS
  • 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.020
  • IN THE PRISON, HOW COLD IT WAS, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. IT WAS-.
  • 00:16:18.030 --> 00:16:22.150
  • SO, PEOPLE THIS IS UNDER- YOU'RE IN A PRISON IN- ANYWHERES NOT
  • 00:16:22.160 --> 00:16:25.100
  • GREAT, BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE IN A COUNTRY LIKE TURKEY, IT'S THESE
  • 00:16:25.110 --> 00:16:28.200
  • ARE PRETTY AWFUL CONDITIONS. CECE HEIL: YEAH, IT WAS VERY YOU
  • 00:16:28.210 --> 00:16:30.180
  • KNOW TERRIBLE CONDITIONS. AND YOU KNOW I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO
  • 00:16:30.190 --> 00:16:33.290
  • NOREEN. AND DOING THE LEGAL PROCESS, YOU KNOW, I COULD GIVE
  • 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.090
  • HOPE THROUGH WHAT THESE STEPS ARE, OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW
  • 00:16:37.100 --> 00:16:39.160
  • WHAT TURKEY WAS GOING TO DO, BUT THEN AS A CHRISTIAN TRYING TO
  • 00:16:39.170 --> 00:16:42.070
  • GIVE HOPE TOO IS- YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN YOU DON'T SEE IT, WE HAVE
  • 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.270
  • TO KNOW THAT GOD'S IN THIS AND HE'S WORKING IN THIS. AND YOU
  • 00:16:44.280 --> 00:16:47.170
  • KNOW, I KNOW, THAT THAT WAS A HARD PROCESS OF WHEN YOU'RE IN A
  • 00:16:47.180 --> 00:16:50.120
  • TURKISH PRISON TO SEE WHAT'S THE GOOD IN THIS AND WHERE'S THE
  • 00:16:50.130 --> 00:16:54.000
  • HOPE IN THAT? JAY SEKULOW: ANETTE ON FACEBOOK SAYS: YOUR
  • 00:16:54.010 --> 00:16:56.140
  • TESTIMONY IS INCREDIBLE. GOD BLESS YOU PASTOR BRUNSON. YOU
  • 00:16:56.150 --> 00:16:59.010
  • WANT TO GO? -YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK PASTOR BRUNSON A QUESTION
  • 00:16:59.020 --> 00:17:01.260
  • ABOUT THE PEOPLE HE WAS IN PRISON WITH. I THINK HE TALKED
  • 00:17:01.270 --> 00:17:05.040
  • ABOUT IT ON ABC NEWS, BUT THE IDEA THAT WITH SOME REALLY ROUGH
  • 00:17:05.050 --> 00:17:09.140
  • PEOPLE, CONSIDERING THAT YOU WERE SO HIGH-PROFILE. I ALWAYS
  • 00:17:09.150 --> 00:17:12.270
  • WANTED TO UNDERSCORE THAT TO OUR U.S. AUDIENCE, HOW HIGH-PROFILE
  • 00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:16.080
  • YOU WERE IN TURKEY. LIKE YOU SAID WHEN THE ECONOMY WENT BAD,
  • 00:17:16.090 --> 00:17:19.080
  • WHEN THE TWO OFFICIALS WERE SANCTIONED, THEY BLAMED ANDREW
  • 00:17:19.090 --> 00:17:21.260
  • BRUNSON AND TURKEY THAT THEY MADE YOU OUT TO BE THIS KIND OF
  • 00:17:21.270 --> 00:17:26.130
  • SUPER SPY IN THE TURKISH MEDIA. AND THEN YOU GET PUT INTO JAIL
  • 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:30.000
  • CELLS WITH PEOPLE, PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM, WHO HAVE READ SOME
  • 00:17:30.010 --> 00:17:33.120
  • PRETTY SALACIOUS THINGS ABOUT YOU. PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON:
  • 00:17:33.130 --> 00:17:35.250
  • WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT AT THE BEGINNING I WASN'T
  • 00:17:35.260 --> 00:17:39.060
  • HIGH-PROFILE AND THEY TREATED ME AS THEY TREATED ALL OF THE OTHER
  • 00:17:39.070 --> 00:17:42.110
  • PEOPLE ACCUSED OF BEING PART OF THE COUP ATTEMPT AND BEING PART
  • 00:17:42.120 --> 00:17:45.210
  • OF THE GULEN MOVEMENT, WHICH THEY IS BASICALLY AN ISLAMIST
  • 00:17:45.220 --> 00:17:49.160
  • MOVEMENT. AND SO AT THE BEGINNING THE DIFFICULTY, I
  • 00:17:49.170 --> 00:17:54.000
  • NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS I WAS, IN
  • 00:17:54.010 --> 00:17:57.220
  • WHETHER IT WAS CROWDED OR COLD OR FOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
  • 00:17:57.230 --> 00:18:02.020
  • IT WAS MORE THAT I WAS IN PRISON. UNJUSTLY. AND THE TRUTH
  • 00:18:02.030 --> 00:18:07.170
  • IS THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE I WAS IN PRISON WITH WERE ACCUSED
  • 00:18:07.180 --> 00:18:11.240
  • OF BEING PART OF THE GULEN MOVEMENT AND THERE ARE POLICE
  • 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:15.080
  • OFFICERS OR MILITARY OR THEY WERE JUST VERY STRONG MUSLIMS.
  • 00:18:15.090 --> 00:18:20.260
  • AND THE MOST DIFFICULT THING FOR ME, DURING THAT TIME, WAS A
  • 00:18:20.270 --> 00:18:24.150
  • SPIRITUAL ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL VERY COMMITTED
  • 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:28.070
  • VERY STRONG MUSLIMS. SO, THERE WERE CONSTANT PRAYERS GOING ON,
  • 00:18:28.080 --> 00:18:31.280
  • RECITATION OF THE QURAN, IT WAS LIKE A MUSLIM HOUSE OF PRAYER
  • 00:18:31.290 --> 00:18:35.280
  • 24/7 AND I WAS ONLY CHRISTIAN AND I HAD NO FELLOWSHIP OR
  • 00:18:35.290 --> 00:18:40.180
  • ANYONE TO PRAY WITH. SO, THE SPIRITUAL ENVIRONMENT WAS
  • 00:18:40.190 --> 00:18:45.080
  • DIFFICULT. AS I BECAME MORE PROFILE, A HIGHER PROFILE, AFTER
  • 00:18:45.090 --> 00:18:49.260
  • PRESIDENT TRUMP ASKED FOR ME AT THE SUMMIT, THAT HE HAD IN MAY
  • 00:18:49.270 --> 00:18:52.260
  • 2017, THEN WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THEY MOVED ME FROM THAT
  • 00:18:52.270 --> 00:18:57.280
  • CELL TO A MAXIMUM-SECURITY PRISON THAN I HAD BEEN IN, AND
  • 00:18:57.290 --> 00:19:04.290
  • PUT ME IN A SMALLER CELL WITH WITH JUST TWO OTHER PEOPLE. AND
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:08.140
  • THE REASON THEY DID THAT WAS TO PROVIDE MORE SECURITY, SO THAT
  • 00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:11.220
  • PEOPLE WOULD NOT HURT ME IN ANY WAY, SO NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN.
  • 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:16.050
  • JORDAN: ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO RIGHT TO THE PHONES.
  • 00:19:16.060 --> 00:19:18.090
  • PEOPLE ARE HOLDING ON TO TALK TO YOU PASTOR BRUNSON. LAURA IN
  • 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:20.240
  • NORTH CAROLINA ON LINE FIVE, LAURA WELCOME TO JAY SEKULOW
  • 00:19:20.250 --> 00:19:23.090
  • LIVE. LAURA: HEY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, I REALLY
  • 00:19:23.100 --> 00:19:28.260
  • DO. A LITTLE NERVOUS HERE, BUT I JUST- IT'S YOUR HUMBLENESS AND
  • 00:19:28.270 --> 00:19:36.120
  • JUST THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW. I'M SO, WE'RE SO
  • 00:19:36.130 --> 00:19:41.140
  • GLAD THAT YOU'RE BACK HOME. I MEAN I'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR YOU.
  • 00:19:41.150 --> 00:19:45.190
  • BEEN EVERY TIME, I SAW THAT COME UP I WOULD SIGN THE THING
  • 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:49.250
  • ONLINE, THAT THE PETITION ONLINE. JAY SEKULOW: YEAH ALMOST
  • 00:19:49.260 --> 00:19:52.090
  • SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE SIGNED THAT. LAURA: YEAH, IT WAS
  • 00:19:52.100 --> 00:19:55.200
  • INCREDIBLE TO SEE YOU KNELT DOWN AND PRAYING FOR WITH OUR
  • 00:19:55.210 --> 00:20:01.140
  • PRESIDENT. JAY SEKULOW: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. LET ME ASK
  • 00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.190
  • YOU ABOUT THAT ONE, ANDREW. THAT WAS QUITE A MOMENT, I MEAN, I'VE
  • 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:07.270
  • BEEN IN THAT ROOM ON ON MANY OCCASIONS, BUT THAT WAS
  • 00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:11.200
  • CERTAINLY A DIFFERENT ONE. WHAT WAS YOUR SENSE OF THAT? I MEAN,
  • 00:20:11.210 --> 00:20:14.260
  • I KNOW YOU WANTED TO DO IT; YOU PRAYED ABOUT IT AND, OBVIOUSLY,
  • 00:20:14.270 --> 00:20:18.060
  • THE PRESIDENT WAS RECEPTIVE, BUT TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:20:18.070 --> 00:20:21.010
  • PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: WELL, NOREEN HAD HAD A DREAM ABOUT
  • 00:20:21.020 --> 00:20:23.110
  • PRAYING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND SPECIFICALLY PRAYING WORDS OF
  • 00:20:23.120 --> 00:20:27.210
  • ISAIAH WHERE- ABOUT HOLY SPIRIT BY ISIAH 11. AND IN HER DREAM,
  • 00:20:27.220 --> 00:20:32.180
  • SHE SHE FELT LIKE THERE WAS RESISTANCE TO IT AND SHE HAD TO
  • 00:20:32.190 --> 00:20:35.260
  • PRESS THROUGH THAT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO. SO, SHE
  • 00:20:35.270 --> 00:20:39.050
  • DETERMINED THAT IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AT ANY POINT, IF SHE
  • 00:20:39.060 --> 00:20:42.060
  • MET THE PRESIDENT, TO PRAY THESE VERSES OVER HIM. AND WHEN WE
  • 00:20:42.070 --> 00:20:46.140
  • LEARNED THAT WE WOULD BE GOING TO THE HOUSE WHITE HOUSE, WE
  • 00:20:46.150 --> 00:20:49.130
  • PRAYED TOGETHER AND WE ASKED GOD TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:20:49.140 --> 00:20:53.020
  • PRAY FOR THE PRESIDENT. WE BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF PRAYER;
  • 00:20:53.030 --> 00:20:55.200
  • WE BELIEVE ALSO AN IMPARTATION THAT AS WE PRAY FOR PEOPLE GOD
  • 00:20:55.210 --> 00:20:59.120
  • CAN PASS SOMETHING SPIRITUAL ON OF THE SPIRITUAL BLESSING ON.
  • 00:20:59.130 --> 00:21:04.150
  • AND SO WE WE ASKED GOD TO GIVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY. WHEN WE
  • 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:08.250
  • ASKED THE PRESIDENT IF WE COULD PRAY FOR HIM, HE WAS VERY
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  • RECEPTIVE. AND IT WAS A GREAT PRIVILEGE FOR US TO DO THIS. JAY
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  • SEKULOW: LET'S TAKE ONE MORE CALL BEFORE THE BREAK HERE.
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  • JORDAN: JULIE IN CALIFORNIA ON LINE SIX. JULIE, YOU'RE ON THE
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  • AIR WITH PASTOR BRONSON. JAY SEKULOW: HI JULIE. JULIE: HI JAY
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  • AND JORDAN AND PASTOR BRUNSON. UM, FIRST OF ALL THIS IS EXACTLY
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  • WHY I'M A MEMBER OF THE ACLJ, BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT ONE
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  • INDIVIDUAL AND THEY CARE ABOUT ISSUES THAT
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  • EFFECT THE WHOLE WORLD.
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  • AND PASTOR BRUNSON, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS: DID YOU FEEL THE
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  • PRAYERS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD PRAYING FOR YOU IN PRISON?
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  • AND IF SO, HOW DID IT LIFTS YOU UP SPIRITUALLY AND SUPPORT YOU?
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  • PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON: OKAY SO FIRST, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING
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  • ABOUT ACLJ, YOU SAID, THEY CARE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL.' AND SO MY
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  • WIFE TOLD ME HOW CECE WOULD STAY UP, SOMETIMES THROUGH THE NIGHT
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  • MONITORING SOMETHING FOR US- THE HEARINGS, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY
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  • GO THROUGH A WHOLE DAY OF WORK. AND JUST THE PERSONAL CARE THERE
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  • WAS REALLY PHENOMENAL. THE QUESTION- I JUST FORGOT WHAT THE
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  • QUESTION QUESTION. JAY SEKULOW: NO, NO. THE QUESTION WAS DID
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  • YOU FEEL THE PRAYERS OF GOD'S PEOPLE?' PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON:
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  • OKAY, YOU KNOW I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED KNOWING THAT PEOPLE
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  • WERE PRAYING FOR ME. ONE OF THE FEARS THAT I HAD, IT'S AN
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  • IRRATIONAL THING PERHAPS, BUT WHEN ONE ONE IS ISOLATED THE WAY
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  • I WAS IS IT I WOULD BE FORGOTTEN AND THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT PRAY
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  • FOR ME. AND I DESPERATELY WANTED THAT PRAYER, BECAUSE I FELT VERY
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  • WEAK. AND SO AS I LOOK BACK ON MY SECOND YEAR WHEN GOD WAS
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  • REBUILDING ME, I DIDN'T FEEL GOD'S PRESENCE VERY MUCH, BUT I
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  • KNOW VERY WELL THAT IT WAS A PRAYERS OF GOD'S PEOPLE THAT
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  • WAS. THERE WAS A GRACE COMING TO ME THAT OFTEN WAS NOT FELT. IT
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  • WAS LIKE A HIDDEN GRACE. AND I WASN'T AWARE OF IT AT THE TIME,
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  • BUT THEN I WOULD LOOK BACK AND SEE, WELL I CAME THROUGH THESE
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  • DIFFICULTIES AND I KNOW THAT I'M TOO WEAK TO DO IT MYSELF. YOU
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  • KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT WAS GREAT. JAY SEKULOW: YEAH, WHAT YOU
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  • SAID, WHERE YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE ALONE AND THERE WERE THOSE
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  • TIMES. WE WE'VE HAD OTHER CASES, JORDAN, WHERE PEOPLE SAID
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  • EXACTLY THE SAME. EXACTLY THE SAME. JORDAN: EXACTLY THE SAME.
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  • THAT THEY FEEL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IRRATIONAL, THEY KNOW IT'S
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  • IRRATIONAL. IN THOSE SITUATIONS THERE CAN THERE BE COMPLETELY
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  • FORGOTTEN. ANDREW, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US WE'RE PRAYING FOR
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  • YOU. GLAD TO HAVE YOU HOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S GONNA
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  • DO IT FOR THE BROADCAST TODAY. I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO COME TO
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  • YOU AT THE TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK BECAUSE- SINCE WE ARE
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  • NOT PAYING FOR THE AIR TIME, HERE AT ACLJ, WE ARE ABLE TO
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  • HANDLE CASES LIKE PASTOR ANDREW BRUNSON. YOU ARE A BIG PART OF
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  • THAT. WE ENCOURAGE YOU SUPPORT TBN. THAT'S GOING TO DO IT FOR
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  • OUR BROADCAST THIS WEEK. WE'LL TALK TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
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