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President Trump Facilitates A Historic Day For Peace in the Middle East

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October 6, 2020
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President Trump Facilitates A Historic Day For Peace in the Middle East

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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - Historic day atthe White House
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  • as Israel, Bahrain, and theUAE sign peace agreements
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  • and economic accords.
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  • We'll talk about that and moretoday on "Jay Sekulow Live".
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  • So we knew about theUnited Arab Emirates.
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  • Then Bahrain was announced.
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  • We talked about with ourspecial advisor, Rick Grinnell,
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  • the Kosovo, which isalso predominantly Muslim
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  • recognizing Israel, but nowthat is being formalized.
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  • As we speak right now,
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  • the White House ispreparing for the ceremony,
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  • the actual signing documents.
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  • I'm holding in my hand whatlike the joint statement
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  • would read from theUnited States and Bahrain.
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  • It says presidentDonald J. Trump,
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  • His Majesty, it'sKing Al Khalifa ofthe kingdom of Bahrain
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  • and Prime MinisterNetanyahu of Israel
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  • agree to the establishmentof full diplomatic relations
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  • between Israel and thekingdom of Bahrain.
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  • And then, and this is the onewith the United Arab Emirates,
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  • same kind of language.
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  • President Trump, PrimeMinister Netanyahu
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  • and Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed,
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  • the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi,and Deputy Supreme Commander
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  • of the United ArabEmirates spoke today
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  • and agreed to thefull normalization
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  • of diplomatic relationshipbetween Israel
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  • and the United Arab Emirates.
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  • What that means ispeace, economic,
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  • full diplomatic relationshipsis what you have
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  • with your allies.
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  • It's what you havewith countries
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  • that you begin tohave that full...
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  • These were countriesthat did not recognize
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  • the existence ofIsrael before this.
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  • And now they're going to haveflights going back and forth,
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  • full economic relationships,
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  • bring greater peaceto the region.
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  • And it's freaking out in agood way our enemies like Iran.
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  • So Iran's foreignminister of course,
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  • had to weigh in on this.
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  • And he tweeted out, PresidentTrump desperately needed
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  • a campaign photo op,so his son in-law,
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  • he's talking aboutJared Kushner,
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  • blackmailed their regionalclients into giving him one.
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  • The only problem is thatthese peace agreements
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  • are not between foes,but longstanding allies.
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  • That is a conspiracythat Iran has always said
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  • that these Gulf Statesare really pro Israel,
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  • Which is not true.
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  • I mean, these were funders,top funders of Hamas,
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  • top funders of the quote,resistance to Israel.
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  • They didn't recognizethe state of Israel,
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  • Israeli athletes couldn'tgo there and participate
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  • in internationalsporting events.
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  • And they could do no business.
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  • So whether or not they workedwith the United States or not,
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  • these countries thathave, of course Bahrain,
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  • and the United Arab Emirates,
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  • if you went into like AbuDhabi 10 years ago and said,
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  • you're going to have a peacedeal under President Trump
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  • in the United States,
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  • with Prime MinisterNetanyahu in Israel,
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  • and in 10 years, you'regoing to recognize Israel
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  • as a state, sovereign statewith full diplomatic relations,
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  • people would have laughed atyou, if not more violently.
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  • And because Abu Dhabi is alsoin the United Arab Emirates,
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  • people think of Dubai,
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  • but Abu Dhabi is much moreconservative of a city
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  • and that's the capital.
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  • The fact is, itis that historic.
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  • So Iran is freaking out andthey say, stay tuned for more.
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  • Well, what they knowis that as we know,
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  • representatives fromthe country of Oman
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  • are also there today, another...
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  • And they would makesense for them to also,
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  • why not get into thiseconomic relationship
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  • with the best economy inthe Middle East, Israel?
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  • - Yeah, so Andy andI have negotiated
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  • trilateral MiddleEast agreements.
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  • So let me tell yousomething about this one.
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  • This was quite adiplomatic feat.
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  • This was an incredible moment.
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  • Reshaping the futureof the Middle East.
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  • You know, Jordan justmentioned quickly
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  • that the economic impact,
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  • I mean the idea thatplanes are gonna fly
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  • from Bahrain in the UnitedArab Emirates to Tel Aviv.
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  • - This is an incredible thing.
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  • And anyone who has dealtwith any kind of negotiations
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  • in the Middle East knowsthat it's multi-sided,
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  • I mean 12-faceted.
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  • And in order for somethinglike this to have been achieved
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  • is a tremendous coup for thePresident of the United States.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - It's pretty amazingto see too, the imagery,
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  • the US flag.
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  • It's not, not so you need tosee a US flag with the UAE
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  • or Bahrain, because of ourlongstanding relationship,
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  • but with the Israeli flagand the Star of David
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  • in the middle with not justtwo peace accords being signed,
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  • one with the United ArabEmirates, one with Bahrain,
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  • but also a trilateral agreement
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  • between Israel,Bahrain, and the UAE
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  • on how they'll beworking together.
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  • These are the most dynamiceconomies in the Middle East.
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  • When you talk about the UnitedArab Emirates, of course,
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  • you know, Dubai,people know Dubai
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  • probably betterthan they know UAE
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  • because of the towers andthe economic centerpiece
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  • that they are in that region.
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  • Israel, again, is theother economic power.
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  • So you put together, youhave the UAE and Bahrain,
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  • you start putting theseGulf States together,
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  • Oman is attending.
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  • So you put these Gulf,these kingdoms together,
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  • and these are also closeallies of Saudi Arabia.
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  • I mean, this is theblock that stops Iran
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  • from ever expanding.
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  • - Yeah, so here's acouple of interesting,
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  • one, is I'd like ourproduction team to see
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  • if they can get whatJordan just described,
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  • which is the pictureof the flags,
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  • because that is a verysymbolic moment to see
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  • the flag of Israel, the UnitedStates, Bahrain, and the UAE.
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  • Now here's what's gonna happen.
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  • So the White House is announcing
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  • that the agreementhas been made.
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  • They're going to have completediplomatic relationships,
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  • which means embassies.
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  • So of course, Israel's embassy,
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  • headquarters now for theUnited States is Jerusalem.
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  • You have the jointeconomic impact,
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  • and as Jordan said,the economies of the,
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  • these are thestrongest economies.
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  • Flight cooperation,not just cooperation,
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  • they're establishing flightsbetween Tel Aviv and the UAE,
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  • Tel Aviv and Bahrain.
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  • And that will increase tourism,
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  • which increase also peoplegetting to know each other,
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  • which impacts howpeople get along.
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  • Saudi Arabia isallowing flyover rights,
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  • which is significant also.
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  • But this is no smallaccomplishment.
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  • This is a huge accomplishment.
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  • I think it's the mostsignificant accomplishment
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  • in the Middle Eastin our lifetime,
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  • because it's multilateral,it's trilateral.
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  • And as Jordan said,
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  • it's really morethan even trilateral.
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  • - You know, Jay, from ahistorical point of view,
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  • I think it's importantas a historian,
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  • I look, and I see, whatdid they call this?
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  • They called it theAbraham Accord.
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  • Why did they call itthe Abraham Accords?
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  • Because Abraham is the commonfather of the whole region,
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  • the common father of the Arabs,of the Israelis, the Jews.
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  • The common father is finallybringing them together
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  • under the bannerand at the impetus
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  • of the President ofthe United States.
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  • So what this does is not onlydoes it bring them together
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  • diplomatically in terms offlights, investment, tourism,
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  • security, telecommunications,technology, energy,
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  • healthcare, culture, theenvironment, embassies,
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  • finally the normalization ofrelations between countries
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  • that at root and at stake
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  • are really historically,Jay, brothers.
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  • - Right, and all,these are the countries.
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  • When you look at the UAE,when you look at Bahrain
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  • and those who would probablyfollow as well as Oman,
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  • yes, sometimes theirdress, you know,
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  • where you'll see their formaldress may be non-Western,
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  • and the rest of their economy
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  • and their cultureis very Western.
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  • And as being someonewho's been in that region
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  • long before thesepeace agreements,
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  • they were movingtowards the West,
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  • they were moving towards amore free and open discussion
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  • where things were less censoredand people have more rights.
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  • Does mean that it's likethe perfect examples
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  • of human rights?
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  • No, in these countries,but how do you get there?
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  • It's like, what Andy said is,
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  • you start seeing eachother, working together.
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  • And of course we know in Dubai
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  • that they have all theseexceptions to the rule already.
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  • So it makes sense, these are,wants to take a step forward.
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  • I believe because ofwhere these are located.
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  • This is a bigger deal thaneven like with back with Egypt,
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  • because these are morestable governments
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  • with more stable leaderships.
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  • These are kingdoms,not these kind of...
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  • They've not had the unrest thatEgypt has seen for decades.
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  • And they also have resources.
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  • - And listen also,this sends a message
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  • to the Palestinian authorityto get with the program.
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  • And the Israelis are ready tomake the Palestinian people,
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  • to reach their full potential.
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  • It's been the leadership ofthe Palestinian authority
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  • that has stopped that.
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  • And now you've got Bahrain,the United Arab Emirates,
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  • and it looks like Omannext, coming together saying
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  • we're not only going to allow
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  • these diplomatic relationships,
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  • as Jordan said earlier,
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  • we're recognizingIsrael's right to exist.
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  • Look at this, for those whoare watching on Facebook
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  • or Periscope or any othersocial media platform,
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  • look at that.
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  • Who would have, I gotchills looking at that.
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  • Who would have everthought we would see that?
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  • We were just inJerusalem two years ago
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  • for the embassy move.
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  • And then John Kerry said,
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  • if you pulled out ofthe Iran nuclear deal,
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  • Israel would be isolated.
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  • Well, there's your isolation.
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  • The flags of theUnited Arab Emirates,
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  • the Star of Davidin Israel's flag
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  • and the United ArabEmirates and Bahrain,
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  • I mean, and the UnitedStates, of course.
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  • That shot that theorydown, John Kerry.
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  • Now David Friedmanunderscored as the ambassador
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  • in the United States toIsrael, a friend of ours,
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  • made a very importantstatement about this,
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  • the importance of that,why we're calling it
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  • the Abraham Accords.
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  • Take a listen to number 30.
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  • - Abraham, as many of you know,
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  • was the father of allthree great faiths.
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  • He's referred to as Abrahamin the Christian faith,
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  • Ibrahim in the Muslimfaith, and Avraham
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  • in the Jewish faith.
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  • And no person better symbolizesthe potential for unity
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  • among all these threegreat faiths than Abraham.
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  • And that's why this accordhas been given that name.
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  • - Yes, I mean, youlisten to that...
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  • Now we know that Oman is there.
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  • So they're in attendance,they're watching this.
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  • I mean, I think thatthey're next and so that's-
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  • - How significantdo you think Oman
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  • coming into this will be?
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  • - That's right, I meanyou're talking about
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  • one of the shipping routes,
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  • you know, where you'vegot Iran on one side,
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  • what you are doing if youactually look at a map right now
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  • from doing some kindof data.
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  • So if you look atUnited Arab Emirates,
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  • you add Oman to that, andyou add of course, Bahrain,
  • 00:10:16.697 --> 00:10:19.433
  • which is an islandin the Persian Gulfor the Arabian Gulf,
  • 00:10:19.433 --> 00:10:22.769
  • whichever side youwant to talk about,
  • 00:10:22.769 --> 00:10:25.005
  • that shipping zone,the Straits of Hormuz,
  • 00:10:25.005 --> 00:10:27.341
  • all of those areas noware not just allies
  • 00:10:27.341 --> 00:10:30.677
  • of kind of the United States,
  • 00:10:30.677 --> 00:10:33.513
  • but they're also allies ofthe Jewish state of Israel.
  • 00:10:33.513 --> 00:10:36.717
  • I mean, if you're Iran, younow really have to second guess
  • 00:10:36.717 --> 00:10:39.820
  • taking any kind of action,
  • 00:10:39.820 --> 00:10:41.555
  • because you surviveoff those countries.
  • 00:10:41.555 --> 00:10:43.724
  • - Yes.
  • 00:10:43.724 --> 00:10:45.258
  • - You know, taking your rawoil and turning it into gas,
  • 00:10:45.258 --> 00:10:48.962
  • turning intosomething can be sold.
  • 00:10:48.962 --> 00:10:50.664
  • So I think thisaffects all of that.
  • 00:10:50.664 --> 00:10:52.165
  • I mean, if you're Assad,
  • 00:10:52.165 --> 00:10:54.267
  • and you thought yousurvived that civil war
  • 00:10:54.267 --> 00:10:56.703
  • because of ISISand the conflict,
  • 00:10:56.703 --> 00:10:58.438
  • the three-way fightingthat was there,
  • 00:10:58.438 --> 00:11:00.707
  • this is very unnerving.
  • 00:11:00.707 --> 00:11:02.376
  • If you're the Palestinianauthority, this is unnerving.
  • 00:11:02.376 --> 00:11:04.511
  • They're also talkingthat Sudan could be next.
  • 00:11:04.511 --> 00:11:06.680
  • So we're moving theninto North Africa, Sudan,
  • 00:11:06.680 --> 00:11:09.282
  • remember they overthrewtheir leadership,
  • 00:11:09.282 --> 00:11:11.118
  • very isolated from the world.
  • 00:11:11.118 --> 00:11:13.687
  • They don't have theOsama bin Ladens anymore
  • 00:11:13.687 --> 00:11:15.322
  • with the money to givethe government leaders.
  • 00:11:15.322 --> 00:11:17.858
  • They have nowhereto put their oil,
  • 00:11:17.858 --> 00:11:19.693
  • they have nowhere to sell it.
  • 00:11:19.693 --> 00:11:20.961
  • They're basically bannedfrom the world economy.
  • 00:11:20.961 --> 00:11:23.330
  • But if they did, if theytook a move like this,
  • 00:11:23.330 --> 00:11:25.065
  • of course the economywould be opened up to them.
  • 00:11:25.065 --> 00:11:27.601
  • They already overthrewtheir dictators.
  • 00:11:27.601 --> 00:11:29.936
  • So this could betheir next step.
  • 00:11:29.936 --> 00:11:31.438
  • And I think it actuallycould go all the way down
  • 00:11:31.438 --> 00:11:33.540
  • outside of the Muslimworld, into this world,
  • 00:11:33.540 --> 00:11:36.910
  • that Iran has had agreat influence in
  • 00:11:36.910 --> 00:11:38.745
  • as well as Russia and China.
  • 00:11:38.745 --> 00:11:40.647
  • And now if you're theRussians or the Chinese,
  • 00:11:40.647 --> 00:11:43.350
  • you're losing grip.
  • 00:11:43.350 --> 00:11:44.818
  • - Yeah, I was gonna say,it's a very important point,
  • 00:11:44.818 --> 00:11:47.821
  • what he just said.
  • 00:11:47.821 --> 00:11:49.322
  • And that is the impact thishas on these other countries.
  • 00:11:49.322 --> 00:11:51.158
  • But I want tounderscore something
  • 00:11:51.158 --> 00:11:52.592
  • because this is important.
  • 00:11:52.592 --> 00:11:54.394
  • Trilateral negotiationsin the Middle East,
  • 00:11:54.394 --> 00:11:57.664
  • and this is coming frompeople that have done them
  • 00:11:57.664 --> 00:12:00.167
  • is very difficult.
  • 00:12:00.167 --> 00:12:01.635
  • And the fact that in arelatively short period of time,
  • 00:12:01.635 --> 00:12:05.505
  • you know, you're talking about,
  • 00:12:05.505 --> 00:12:06.773
  • let's say this has beenworked on for 18 months,
  • 00:12:06.773 --> 00:12:07.974
  • whatever it's been,to come to that,
  • 00:12:07.974 --> 00:12:09.843
  • we had to do that with, intrying to get recognized
  • 00:12:09.843 --> 00:12:13.380
  • the Greek Orthodox patriarchof Jerusalem to do that.
  • 00:12:13.380 --> 00:12:16.950
  • According to anOttoman era decree,
  • 00:12:16.950 --> 00:12:19.486
  • this is how it worksin the Middle East,
  • 00:12:19.486 --> 00:12:20.987
  • you had to get the signoff by the Israelis,
  • 00:12:20.987 --> 00:12:23.390
  • the Jordanians and thePalestinian authority.
  • 00:12:23.390 --> 00:12:25.826
  • - That's right.
  • 00:12:25.826 --> 00:12:27.027
  • We worked there forseveral weeks in trying
  • 00:12:27.027 --> 00:12:29.863
  • to get Patriarch Theophilos
  • 00:12:29.863 --> 00:12:31.331
  • who's the incumbent GreekOrthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem
  • 00:12:31.331 --> 00:12:34.868
  • approved by these three powers.
  • 00:12:34.868 --> 00:12:37.471
  • The Jordanians had approved it,
  • 00:12:37.471 --> 00:12:39.806
  • the Palestinians had approved it
  • 00:12:39.806 --> 00:12:41.541
  • and the Israelis wereholding out in approving.
  • 00:12:41.541 --> 00:12:44.644
  • I remember very clearly, Jay,
  • 00:12:44.644 --> 00:12:46.613
  • the morning of Shabbat thatwe met with Prime Minister-
  • 00:12:46.613 --> 00:12:49.850
  • - At his house.
  • 00:12:49.850 --> 00:12:51.084
  • - At his house,at his residence.
  • 00:12:51.084 --> 00:12:52.552
  • An unprecedented thing tomeet on Shabbat on the Sabbath
  • 00:12:52.552 --> 00:12:56.256
  • with the primeminister of Israel.
  • 00:12:56.256 --> 00:12:58.024
  • And I remember distinctly himlooking at Prime Minister,
  • 00:12:58.024 --> 00:13:01.761
  • looking at Jayand saying to Jay,
  • 00:13:01.761 --> 00:13:03.997
  • "What do you think I should do?"
  • 00:13:03.997 --> 00:13:06.132
  • And Jay saying to him,
  • 00:13:06.132 --> 00:13:07.434
  • "Recognize thePatriarch of Jerusalem,
  • 00:13:07.434 --> 00:13:10.370
  • the Greek Orthodox Patriarchon behalf of Israel,"
  • 00:13:10.370 --> 00:13:13.206
  • and six weeks later,which is a time warp
  • 00:13:13.206 --> 00:13:16.743
  • in the Middle East,six weeks later,
  • 00:13:16.743 --> 00:13:18.879
  • that's like nothing,that's like three seconds,
  • 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.681
  • the Israelis recognized him.
  • 00:13:21.681 --> 00:13:23.383
  • And he remainstoday, the Patriarch,
  • 00:13:23.383 --> 00:13:25.886
  • the Greek OrthodoxPatriarch of Jerusalem.
  • 00:13:25.886 --> 00:13:28.522
  • - Historically,I believe Jordan,
  • 00:13:31.191 --> 00:13:33.360
  • that this accomplishment isas significant as anything
  • 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:36.363
  • we've seen in our lifetime asit relates to the Middle East.
  • 00:13:36.363 --> 00:13:39.833
  • Because it's alsojust the beginning.
  • 00:13:39.833 --> 00:13:41.468
  • - Well, it'sdifferent than Egypt,
  • 00:13:41.468 --> 00:13:43.336
  • it's different than Jordan,
  • 00:13:43.336 --> 00:13:44.704
  • it's different thanthose peace agreements.
  • 00:13:44.704 --> 00:13:46.273
  • Those were the originaltwo, was Egypt and Jordan,
  • 00:13:46.273 --> 00:13:49.609
  • and those were both to end wars.
  • 00:13:49.609 --> 00:13:52.279
  • So they were kind of like,we're gonna end the conflict,
  • 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.948
  • but we're still gonnahave pretty tough borders,
  • 00:13:54.948 --> 00:13:56.883
  • which they do.
  • 00:13:56.883 --> 00:13:58.151
  • And we're gonna worktogether when we can
  • 00:13:58.151 --> 00:13:59.686
  • but sometimes things won't begreat, still like that today.
  • 00:13:59.686 --> 00:14:03.156
  • This is not that.
  • 00:14:03.156 --> 00:14:04.424
  • These countries hadnot been at war.
  • 00:14:04.424 --> 00:14:06.293
  • You know, the UAE had notbeen at war with Israel.
  • 00:14:06.293 --> 00:14:08.695
  • These are not land borders.
  • 00:14:08.695 --> 00:14:10.897
  • Neither had Bahrain.
  • 00:14:10.897 --> 00:14:12.365
  • This is aboutsaying economically,
  • 00:14:12.365 --> 00:14:14.768
  • why are we isolating ourselves?
  • 00:14:14.768 --> 00:14:16.536
  • And by the way, sendinga message that whatthe Palestinians
  • 00:14:16.536 --> 00:14:19.406
  • have been trying to do,
  • 00:14:19.406 --> 00:14:20.674
  • whether it's throughHamas or Hezbollah,
  • 00:14:20.674 --> 00:14:21.942
  • so whether it's the WestBank or the Gaza strip,
  • 00:14:21.942 --> 00:14:25.645
  • they disagree, theyare totally say...
  • 00:14:25.645 --> 00:14:27.547
  • They no longer agree with.
  • 00:14:27.547 --> 00:14:29.349
  • They're saying eitherwork with Israel or else,
  • 00:14:29.349 --> 00:14:32.485
  • because we're nowdiplomatic partners
  • 00:14:32.485 --> 00:14:35.288
  • with the state of Israel.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • So you've had theleadership from the UAE
  • 00:14:43.343 --> 00:14:46.079
  • in the Oval Office right now.
  • 00:14:46.079 --> 00:14:47.547
  • Prime Minister Netanyahuwas in the Oval Office then,
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  • at Bahrain, and then theleaders will all go out
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  • in the White House.
  • 00:14:52.552 --> 00:14:53.887
  • And you already seen the images
  • 00:14:53.887 --> 00:14:56.890
  • to sign these historic,first the Accords together.
  • 00:14:56.890 --> 00:14:59.893
  • So it's between eachcountry and Israel.
  • 00:14:59.893 --> 00:15:02.896
  • So the UAE and Israeland Bahrain and Israel,
  • 00:15:02.896 --> 00:15:05.866
  • and as well as the trilateralagreement between those three.
  • 00:15:05.866 --> 00:15:08.535
  • And that this isjust the beginning.
  • 00:15:08.535 --> 00:15:10.804
  • We have our specialadvisor, Ric Grennell,
  • 00:15:10.804 --> 00:15:12.906
  • former acting directorof National Intelligence,
  • 00:15:12.906 --> 00:15:15.308
  • also formerambassador to Germany.
  • 00:15:15.308 --> 00:15:16.943
  • He's joining us live now.
  • 00:15:16.943 --> 00:15:18.445
  • And he has been part of thisjust a couple of weeks ago
  • 00:15:18.445 --> 00:15:21.948
  • because he serves as anadvisor on Kosovo and Serbia,
  • 00:15:21.948 --> 00:15:26.153
  • when Kosovo, Ric, apredominantly Muslim country
  • 00:15:26.153 --> 00:15:29.656
  • also agreed to recognize Israel
  • 00:15:29.656 --> 00:15:31.591
  • for the first timein its history.
  • 00:15:31.591 --> 00:15:33.059
  • So this is just somethingthat's happening very quickly.
  • 00:15:33.059 --> 00:15:35.929
  • And again, whatever themedia wants to play on it,
  • 00:15:35.929 --> 00:15:38.865
  • it is very historicand meaningful.
  • 00:15:38.865 --> 00:15:41.902
  • - Yes, first of all,
  • 00:15:41.902 --> 00:15:43.503
  • thank you guys for reallyhighlighting all this work.
  • 00:15:43.503 --> 00:15:47.407
  • I think there's somany points to make.
  • 00:15:47.407 --> 00:15:49.776
  • The reality is, is that dayslike today do not happen
  • 00:15:51.578 --> 00:15:56.516
  • without an outsider perspective.
  • 00:15:56.516 --> 00:15:59.553
  • The Washington DCestablishment has tried to do
  • 00:15:59.553 --> 00:16:03.323
  • the same types of politicaldiscussions for decades.
  • 00:16:03.323 --> 00:16:08.328
  • Whether it's with Kosovo-Serbia,or Arab-Israeli peace,
  • 00:16:10.030 --> 00:16:12.966
  • or whatever, the issue, weneed an outsider perspective
  • 00:16:12.966 --> 00:16:17.103
  • to shake up Washington DC
  • 00:16:17.103 --> 00:16:19.372
  • and their stoic way of thinking.
  • 00:16:19.372 --> 00:16:21.775
  • I can't think ofa better outcome
  • 00:16:22.709 --> 00:16:26.146
  • than what we'rewitnessing today.
  • 00:16:26.146 --> 00:16:28.448
  • And it's because DonaldTrump and Jared Kushner
  • 00:16:28.448 --> 00:16:32.853
  • and Avi Berkowitz allthink differently,
  • 00:16:32.853 --> 00:16:35.922
  • and they look at the situationand they talk to people
  • 00:16:35.922 --> 00:16:40.927
  • that really wereskeptical for a long time
  • 00:16:42.229 --> 00:16:44.364
  • about America's role.
  • 00:16:44.364 --> 00:16:46.066
  • And they see, look,the reality is,
  • 00:16:46.066 --> 00:16:48.869
  • is that this wouldnot have happened
  • 00:16:48.869 --> 00:16:51.204
  • if we had continuedin the JCPOA.
  • 00:16:51.204 --> 00:16:53.840
  • If we had continuedin the Iran deal
  • 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.775
  • and sent a terriblemessage to the Middle East,
  • 00:16:55.775 --> 00:16:58.345
  • that we were going tosomehow get on a path,
  • 00:16:58.345 --> 00:17:01.481
  • a weak path that weall know will give Iran
  • 00:17:01.481 --> 00:17:05.385
  • a nuclear weapon.
  • 00:17:05.385 --> 00:17:06.319
  • When Donald Trump said, no,
  • 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.121
  • I don't care whatthe Europeans say,
  • 00:17:08.121 --> 00:17:09.789
  • I don't care what the UN says,
  • 00:17:09.789 --> 00:17:11.658
  • our goal is to denyIran a nuclear weapon.
  • 00:17:11.658 --> 00:17:14.194
  • And we're going to workhard through sanctions
  • 00:17:14.194 --> 00:17:16.263
  • to make that happen.
  • 00:17:16.263 --> 00:17:18.531
  • When that decision was made,
  • 00:17:18.531 --> 00:17:20.901
  • it sent a powerfulmessage to the Emiratis
  • 00:17:20.901 --> 00:17:24.537
  • and the Bahraini, and all ofthe Sunni governments to say,
  • 00:17:24.537 --> 00:17:28.008
  • well, here is anAmerican government
  • 00:17:28.008 --> 00:17:30.377
  • that is doing somethingdifferent, standing with us
  • 00:17:30.377 --> 00:17:33.546
  • and clearly standing for,
  • 00:17:33.546 --> 00:17:36.249
  • standing against the problemcountry in the region.
  • 00:17:36.249 --> 00:17:40.620
  • It would not have happened ifwe listened to the Europeans.
  • 00:17:40.620 --> 00:17:43.757
  • The Europeans did not wantus to get out of the JCPOA.
  • 00:17:43.757 --> 00:17:47.193
  • They want us to continuedown these paths
  • 00:17:47.193 --> 00:17:49.496
  • where consensus- Right.
  • 00:17:49.496 --> 00:17:52.599
  • Is the ultimate goal.
  • 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.068
  • - One of the thingswe're excited
  • 00:17:55.068 --> 00:17:56.503
  • that I think is really important
  • 00:17:56.503 --> 00:17:58.004
  • and something that we'vereiterated here too,
  • 00:17:58.004 --> 00:17:59.472
  • is that there's been40 years of attempts
  • 00:17:59.472 --> 00:18:02.876
  • that have just not worked.
  • 00:18:02.876 --> 00:18:04.411
  • I mean if you look at thehistory of what's happened
  • 00:18:04.411 --> 00:18:06.313
  • in the region asrelated to peace,
  • 00:18:06.313 --> 00:18:08.682
  • they've tried all theseplans and it's never worked.
  • 00:18:08.682 --> 00:18:10.984
  • And it's always been with thePalestinian authority, Ric,
  • 00:18:10.984 --> 00:18:13.186
  • kind of in the middle of it.
  • 00:18:13.186 --> 00:18:14.654
  • And this time a wholenew approach as you said,
  • 00:18:14.654 --> 00:18:17.023
  • completely outside the framework
  • 00:18:17.023 --> 00:18:19.592
  • that it's been for 40 years,
  • 00:18:19.592 --> 00:18:21.561
  • I believe that's what'sgot it to this point.
  • 00:18:21.561 --> 00:18:23.763
  • - Look, consensus isone of those words
  • 00:18:24.965 --> 00:18:26.866
  • that sounds really good.
  • 00:18:26.866 --> 00:18:28.335
  • Joe Biden is pounding consensus,
  • 00:18:28.335 --> 00:18:32.105
  • but consensus meansthat the United States
  • 00:18:32.105 --> 00:18:34.240
  • puts forward ideas andthen it gets watered down
  • 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.711
  • by the UN Security Councilor Brussels for the EU.
  • 00:18:37.711 --> 00:18:42.615
  • Consensus is somethingthat I believe
  • 00:18:43.683 --> 00:18:48.588
  • waters down a potentAmerican policy.
  • 00:18:48.588 --> 00:18:51.992
  • We would not have today,
  • 00:18:51.992 --> 00:18:54.327
  • and this historic agreement,
  • 00:18:54.327 --> 00:18:56.129
  • we would not havethe Kosovo-Serbia
  • 00:18:56.129 --> 00:18:59.132
  • economic normalization agreement
  • 00:18:59.132 --> 00:19:01.601
  • if we continued downthe road of consensus.
  • 00:19:01.601 --> 00:19:04.304
  • These are just the facts.
  • 00:19:04.304 --> 00:19:05.839
  • - Yeah, I mean, Ric, oneof the issues I would see
  • 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:08.274
  • as big barriers to thesekinds of moves happening
  • 00:19:08.274 --> 00:19:11.711
  • is a lot of our ownbureaucracy too,
  • 00:19:11.711 --> 00:19:13.480
  • that I know you'vehad to deal with
  • 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:15.582
  • as the ambassador of Germany,
  • 00:19:15.582 --> 00:19:17.250
  • as acting director ofnational intelligence.
  • 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:19.019
  • I can imagine in ourown state department,
  • 00:19:19.019 --> 00:19:20.987
  • because dealing with themon a lot of these matters,
  • 00:19:20.987 --> 00:19:23.490
  • the bureaucrats, longtermbureaucrats who don't like this
  • 00:19:23.490 --> 00:19:27.694
  • because they kind of had an anti
  • 00:19:27.694 --> 00:19:29.295
  • or they did have avery anti-Israel bent.
  • 00:19:29.295 --> 00:19:32.232
  • They thought that Israel wasthe problem in the region
  • 00:19:32.232 --> 00:19:34.567
  • and that Israel was thisbarrier to peace in the region.
  • 00:19:34.567 --> 00:19:37.370
  • And so you had to have anadministration that you said,
  • 00:19:37.370 --> 00:19:39.906
  • like they would comein with its own people
  • 00:19:39.906 --> 00:19:42.175
  • and work aroundthose bureaucrats,dealt with honestly,
  • 00:19:42.175 --> 00:19:45.445
  • dealt with a lotof the consequences
  • 00:19:45.445 --> 00:19:47.147
  • of what it meansto drain the swamp.
  • 00:19:47.147 --> 00:19:49.582
  • It means that, you know,they come after you
  • 00:19:49.582 --> 00:19:51.518
  • with special counselsand they come after you
  • 00:19:51.518 --> 00:19:53.253
  • with impeachments, theycome after you with,
  • 00:19:53.253 --> 00:19:55.321
  • you know, trying tosubpoena everybody.
  • 00:19:55.321 --> 00:19:57.724
  • But if you don't do itthis way, like you said,
  • 00:19:57.724 --> 00:20:01.861
  • you don't get to this point.
  • 00:20:01.861 --> 00:20:03.029
  • You put Joe Biden back,he wants to put it
  • 00:20:03.029 --> 00:20:04.931
  • back in the Iraniannuclear deal.
  • 00:20:04.931 --> 00:20:07.300
  • He said that publicly, Ric.
  • 00:20:07.300 --> 00:20:09.069
  • - Yeah, look, I thinklike every industry,
  • 00:20:09.069 --> 00:20:11.504
  • whether it's journalism,medicine, evenChristianity, right?
  • 00:20:11.504 --> 00:20:16.509
  • We have bad apples within eachindividual kind of groupings.
  • 00:20:19.546 --> 00:20:24.551
  • And the foreign servicehas that problem.
  • 00:20:25.885 --> 00:20:28.354
  • We have bad apples thathave been able to take over
  • 00:20:28.354 --> 00:20:31.491
  • and hijack the process.
  • 00:20:31.491 --> 00:20:32.892
  • But make no mistake, themajority of the foreign service
  • 00:20:32.892 --> 00:20:35.495
  • really want to moveissues forward.
  • 00:20:35.495 --> 00:20:38.298
  • When given a challenge,they will push hard.
  • 00:20:38.298 --> 00:20:42.102
  • Not to get too muchinto the weeds,
  • 00:20:42.102 --> 00:20:43.536
  • but moving theembassy to Jerusalem-
  • 00:20:43.536 --> 00:20:46.239
  • - Yeah, that was big.
  • 00:20:46.239 --> 00:20:47.507
  • - Was truly historicbecause what it did
  • 00:20:47.507 --> 00:20:49.809
  • for the state department andthe foreign service officers,
  • 00:20:49.809 --> 00:20:52.078
  • is it moved the issueof Israel to Jerusalem.
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  • We used to have aconsulate in Jerusalem
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  • that only coordinatedwith the Palestinians,
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  • or largely coordinatedwith the Palestinians.
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  • And then in Tel Aviv, wecoordinated with Israel.
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  • Now we have an embassyin Jerusalem that'sdoing everything.
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  • That is not justpro-Palestinian,
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  • but it's actuallyworking towards peace.
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  • And we have foreignservice officers who,
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  • working with JaredKushner in the White House
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  • were given a vision andworked hard on this vision.
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  • We gotta also givecredit to David Friedman,
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  • our ambassador in Israel,
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  • amazing guy, who also believedlike Jared and the president
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  • to try something different.
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  • We talk a lot aboutDonald Trump's style.
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  • His style works, and hisstyle as an outsider,
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  • thinking differentlyis what's giving us
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  • this historic agreement today.
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  • - You know, youmentioned David Friedman,
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  • the ambassador to Israelfrom the United States
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  • and a good friend of ours.
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  • And he really hasdone a tremendous,
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  • I mean, obviously underthe guidance and leadership
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  • of the president, has donejust an incredible job.
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  • Ric, I want to changegears for a minute here.
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  • Not to take away from this'cause this is really historic.
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  • - The last thing Ijust wanna say to Rick
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  • is that people likeDavid Friedman,
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  • who went through horrendousconfirmation hearing,
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  • saying that you'retoo pro-Israel,
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  • you're too pro-Jewish,
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  • you're gonna causewar in the region,
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  • they'll say similar kindof things about you, Ric.
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  • And they do, that you're too...
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  • You're the peoplebringing together
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  • these historic piece accords.
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  • It's Ric Grinnell getting,
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  • helping along Kosovo,he's in the meeting there
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  • as a special representativeto recognize Israel.
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  • Is David Friedman puttingtogether Bahrain and the UAE
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  • and many other countriesthat will likely follow suit?
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  • - Yeah, I know personallywhat it's like to have
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  • a messed up confirmation,long and dirty.
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  • And I have to againshout out to Jay Sekulow,
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  • who was incredibly helpfulto my confirmation process,
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  • such a friend, sucha strong supporter.
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  • So I think, I can't thankyou guys enough for that.
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  • - Well, look, well,listen, great job.
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  • Thanks for being with us, Ric.
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  • As always, great insight,
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  • we appreciate your workon all these issues.
  • 00:23:01.908 --> 00:23:04.410
  • - It was great tohave Ric Grinnell.
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  • Again, you're getting it...
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  • Folks who are in these meetings,who are doing this work,
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  • who are now special advisors
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  • to the American Centerfor Law and Justice,
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  • to help walk youthrough this process.
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  • It's great to have him on.
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  • It's great to have hisinsight on all those issues.
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