David Jeremiah - Signs Interview

May 4, 2025 | 57:29

In this special interview with Sheila Walsh, Dr. Jeremiah discusses the importance of prophecy and prophetic end-time events.

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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Signs Interview | May 4, 2025

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Dr. david jeremiah: museums.
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Within the walls of these institutions,
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The signs of our history are preserved
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Through collections of artistic, cultural,
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And scientific importance.
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Exhibits chronicle the people, places, and events
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That have shaped our world.
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There is coming a series of events so apocalyptic
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It will put a period behind the world as we know it
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And not one museum will be left standing
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To memorialize its destruction.
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But what if we could visit such a place?
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A museum containing the signs of what is to come,
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Exhibits and remnants of the end times.
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What could we learn?
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How would it change the way we live today?
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Though in truth, a museum of this kind will never be built.
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Through the lens of god's word,
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Our imagination can catch a glimpse
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Of not what has happened, but will happen.
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Come with me on a tour of bible prophecy,
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Signs that assure us god has a plan
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For the future and for eternity.
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Announcer: and now, join esteemed bible teacher, pastor,
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And author, dr. david jeremiah, as he discusses the importance
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Of bible prophecy with your host, sheila walsh.
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Sheila walsh: let me ask you first of all,
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Where did your interest and your passion
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To understand prophecy begin?
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Dr. jeremiah: sheila, i grew up in a pastor's home
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And my dad who loved the word of god.
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Every year when i was growing up,
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We would have what they called evangelistic campaigns
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And sometimes they called them revivals,
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But they would bring people in from the outside.
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And almost every one of these people
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Who came would have one night devoted to prophecy.
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I remember a man by the name of john carrera,
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Who used to come to our church every year.
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And every time he came on friday night,
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It was prophecy night, and he would spellbind us
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With what god had planned for us in the future.
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Jack van impe was another one who came
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And he would do the same thing.
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And then of course, god allowed me
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To go to dallas theological seminary,
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Where i sat under the teaching of dwight pentecost
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And john walvoord and the people who really have championed
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That cause.
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And i realized this is something i want to learn more about.
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And one of the first books
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I taught when i came to san diego was daniel.
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And when i got done with daniel, i taught revelation.
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Sheila: wow, that's quite an undertaking.
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Dr. jeremiah: and they changed my life, both of those books,
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Because they set the tone for what's happening
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And what's going to happen.
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Sheila: one of the things i love most about the way you teach
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Is that you can take the most complicated subject
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And break it open in such a way that we all get it.
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But i wonder with the study you've done,
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How has it impacted your own personal life
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And spiritual journey?
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Dr. jeremiah: well the bible promises, believe it or not,
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In fact, the book of revelation
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Is the only book in the bible where we are told twice,
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"blessed are those who read this book."
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If you want to be blessed, you should read
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And study the book of revelation
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Because the bible promises that if you do,
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You will be blessed, and i surely have.
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I've learned so much about god's sovereignty
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And his wonderful promise to us
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That he's still in charge even though everything else
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Looks like it's going south on us.
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The wonderful truth about prophecy
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Is that it guarantees the integrity
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Of the rest of the bible.
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For instance, in the old testament
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There are over 300 prophecies about the first coming
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Of christ, where he would be born,
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What would happen to him as a child and all of this.
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Now we have the perspective of history to go back,
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Look at the prophecies and see
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Where they were fulfilled in exactness
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Without any mistake whatsoever.
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Now we have more than twice that many prophecies
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About the second coming of christ.
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So, here's the deal.
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If he was accurate in the first coming,
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Will he not be so accurate in the second coming?
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So, when you study prophecy, you get god's blueprint
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Of what's going to happen in the future
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And you begin to see things like the reemergence
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Of israel as a nation and the collection of nations
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In europe, and all of these things.
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And it's like you have a heads up on what's going on.
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The news is catching up with prophecy,
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And that's what happens when you study that.
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Sheila: does the bible say that we should study prophecy?
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Dr. jeremiah: yeah, the bible--actually,
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As i mentioned in the book of revelation,
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It tells us to read it and to study it.
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And the bible isn't something we can cut and slice and say,
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"oh, i like the narrative sections,"
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Or, "i like the old testament."
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The bible is a whole.
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And when you see it that way, in the book of revelation,
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You have the fulfillment of everything that's wrong
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In the book of genesis.
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You know, and i could go through,
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There's like 30 or 40 of these things.
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The book of revelation is the ultimate fulfillment
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Of god's plan for this world and for his people.
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And once you get--once you kind of get the end in revelation
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And you've got the beginning in genesis,
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The rest of it just starts to make sense.
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Sheila: in all the years you've had
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As a faithful, devoted pastor,
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Is there one question on prophecy
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That comes up more than any other,
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Or maybe one misconception about prophecy?
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Dr. jeremiah: i think maybe one of the misunderstandings
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That i deal with more than anything else
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Is the difference between the rapture
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And the second coming, because the two events
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Are totally different and they have totally different contexts.
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When jesus comes back in the rapture,
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It's to take every christian
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Who's still on this earth to heaven and resurrect
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All those who have died ahead of time.
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And we all go to heaven.
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And then seven years tribulation is on this earth.
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I happen to be one of those people
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Who does not believe the church will be in the tribulation.
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For the bible says, "there is therefore now no condemnation
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To those who were in christ jesus."
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I don't know how that promise could ever be fulfilled
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If we're gonna be in condemnation for seven years.
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At the end of the seven years, the bible says jesus comes back
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And those of us who went up come back.
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In the book of revelation,
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The door to heaven is opened twice.
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Once we go up and once we come back.
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And so, if we understand that the rapture
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Is when he comes for us
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And the second advent is when we come back with him
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To settle the events on this earth,
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Then we can keep those two things straight.
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Sheila: that makes it pretty clear.
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Often you'll hear people predicting
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This is going to be the day,
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And all sorts of people try and get their affairs in order,
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Or they run their credit cards up because they think,
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"i'm going to be out of here."
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Have you ever been tempted to name a day, and if not, why not?
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Dr. jeremiah: i suppose i've been tempted along the way
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To run a credit card up, but never for that reason.
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You know, i just, you know, here's the thing.
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If there's any question about which there is an absolute
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Definite answer, you just ask it.
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Because the bible says, "the lord jesus said,
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'no one knows the time of our lord's return
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Except the father.'"
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And when jesus was on the earth, he did not know.
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He was the son of god.
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The angels don't know.
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The bible does not tell us when he's going to come back.
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The bible does give us some indications
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Of when we're getting close.
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And one of the verses i love is this one that says,
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"for now is your redemption nearer than when you believed."
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What we do know for sure is from the time you became a christian
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And the time i became a christian,
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The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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Sheila: that's good news.
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Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do
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Is try to determine the time, but to be ready
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Whatever time it is.
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Sheila: i want to give you a list.
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I have formed a list of different prophetic terms
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That i've been questioned about
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And i'm sure people watching this want to know.
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So, i'm just going to throw these at you
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And see what you have to say.
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You already touched on this a little bit, the rapture.
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Why do some people believe that there's not going to be
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A rapture,
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That there's just--that christ is just going
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To come back again?
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Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is in the book of thessalonians
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And in 1 corinthians 15,
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And you cannot read those passages
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With any kind of sense of, "is this the truth?"
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Without coming away with this.
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It's in the bible.
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It is absolutely clear.
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Paul said it was a new revelation
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That was not given to us in the old testament.
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It's one of those mysteries that god has unfolded for us.
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Sheila: wow.
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Okay, let's go for the tribulation.
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That's going to be a period of how long
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And what's going to happen during the tribulation?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, the tribulation is seven years
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Divided into two sections.
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The first is kind of what the bible refers to
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As the beginning of sorrows.
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It's kind of the heating up of the cauldron of pressure.
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And what happens in the tribulation is at the beginning
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Of the tribulation, the antichrist,
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Who's the incarnation of satan,
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Makes a covenant with israel for seven years
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That they will be able to worship in their temple
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And all of that.
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And at the end of three and a half years,
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He breaks that covenant.
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And when that happens, all hell breaks loose on this earth.
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And all i can say is when i read that, i'm so grateful
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That i'm not going to be here.
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It will be worse than anything you can imagine.
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The stories of what happens during that time
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And the cruelty,
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The absolute--you see what happens
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In some of the regimes that are in our world today
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Where there's no regard for human life.
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They are like child's play to what happens
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During that period of time.
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And it's sometimes referred to as the time of jacob's trouble,
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The time of israel's trouble.
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And it's not a pretty picture.
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Sheila: dark time.
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Okay, what about the antichrist?
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What do we know about the antichrist?
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Dr. jeremiah: well one thing for sure is that we don't know
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Who he is, even though a lot of christians play
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Pin the tail on the antichrist, you know.
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And they try to figure out who he is.
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We do not know.
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Anybody that says they know, they can't know.
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But we know a lot about him.
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He is the incarnation of satan.
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He is a man who has the oratorical ability
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Of adolf hitler,
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And--but all of the cruelty that goes along with it.
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He's the great deceiver.
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He mimics everything that jesus does.
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Anti doesn't mean just against, but it means instead of.
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So, he will present himself instead of christ.
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His whole regime is one of counterfeiting
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Everything that christ does.
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If you can go through the career of the antichrist,
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He doesn't have an original thought.
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All he does is try to counterfeit what the lord does.
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Sheila: okay, the mark of the beast.
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What is that?
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Dr. jeremiah: well in the book of revelation, we're told that
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During the tribulation period you have to take
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The mark of the beast in order to be able to survive.
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This is the economic control program of the antichrist.
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In other words, the mark of the beast is 666.
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And those who, if you won't bow down to the beast,
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If you won't bow down to the antichrist
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And give him your worship and take the mark,
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The bible says you will not be able to buy or sell.
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People who don't take the mark will literally
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Be starved out of existence.
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They won't be able to buy groceries,
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They won't be able to do business.
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And the mark of the beast
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Is the way the antichrist identifies his followers.
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Sheila: i've heard believers concerned and looking out
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For the mark of the beast, but clearly
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If it's in that time, then we're no longer here.
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Dr. jeremiah: that's right.
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No, we won't be here.
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If it--the mark of the beast does not affect believers
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Because again, in my opinion, we won't be here.
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Sheila: scripture talks about a one world government.
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What can you tell us about that?
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Dr. jeremiah: well globalism has been a big deal,
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Especially of late.
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In the end, there will be an attempt to unite the whole world
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So that this ruler will have--he'll have control
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Of it all.
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I'm gonna tell you what i know, sheila, god is not a globalist,
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He's a nationalist.
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The bible says he's made nations.
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According to the book of acts, the nations were created so that
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We would trust god, so that we wouldn't get caught up in the...
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And the globalism issue goes all the way back
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To the tower of babel
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When they had a language that was all the same
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And because they defied god, the language was confused.
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And ever since they've been trying to put
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This back together.
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And ultimately in the end, when the church is gone,
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The world will be kind of under one leader
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And that will be globalism.
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But it's certainly not anything we want to promote
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In this day and age.
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Sheila: no.
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What about the battle of armageddon?
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Where in the line of things--where does
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That take place?
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Dr. jeremiah: it's clear at the end of the tribulation.
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It's kind of the final scene in the tribulation.
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The forces of evil and the forces of good
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Will have one final encounter and the lord jesus christ
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Will be victorious.
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And, you know, all of the details of how the nations come
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Together and--first of all, they come after israel
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And then all of a sudden the lord jesus comes back,
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And then all of them turn and come after the lord.
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And the bible says he defeats them with the word of his mouth.
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You know, he goes, i tell people, he goes...and it's over.
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And because of his power.
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And the bible says we come back with him as believers.
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And some people say, "well, we're dressed in white.
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Those are not robes of warfare."
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That's true because we don't do anything.
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We're just spectators.
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We come back with the lord jesus.
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We watch his victory over all of the forces against him.
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And i think we cheer.
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Sheila: i'll be cheering.
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Dr. jeremiah: we don't do anything.
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He doesn't need us.
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Sheila: the millennium, we've talked a lot
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When we turned into a new millennium,
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That was a big deal.
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But what is the period of the millennium in biblical prophecy?
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Dr. jeremiah: well actually the word "mille" means a thousand.
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So, the millennium is a thousand years.
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And in the book of revelation, that is actually
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Mentioned four or five times in one chapter.
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The millennium is a thousand year reign of peace,
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And the lord jesus christ will be king.
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Surprising to a lot of folks,
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David will be his vice president,
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So to speak, and will sit on the throne with him,
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And they will rule the world in righteousness and in godliness.
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And there will still be sin in the millennium,
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But it will be short-lived.
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It will be dealt with immediately.
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And when you read about the millennium
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And how lifetime will be extended
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And the lion will lay down with the lamb
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And all of the hostilities that have been a part of our world
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Will be--they'll be gone.
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The millennium is an incredible thing.
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And you know what?
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Dwight pentecost, one of my teachers told me
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There is more information in the bible on the millennium
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Than any other period in all of scripture.
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And it's all tucked away in the old testament prophets
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Where you wouldn't necessarily go for it,
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But then you start to think about it.
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Every time you turn around, there's something in the bible
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About that period of time.
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Sheila: the second coming of christ,
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You said that sometimes people get confused about the rapture
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And the second coming being the same.
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Tell us what we know about the second coming of christ.
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Dr. jeremiah: well it's the climax
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Of the battle of armageddon
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When the lord jesus comes back from heaven.
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The bible presents him as riding upon a white horse,
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Leading the holy angels and the saints,
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And they come and they do war against the evil
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That has been accumulated on this earth.
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Sheila: so, this leads to the battle of armageddon.
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Dr. jeremiah: it is the end of the battle of armageddon.
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All of this leads up to the return of christ.
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And when he comes back,
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He puts an end to it it pretty quickly.
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Here comes the lord jesus from heaven
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And people think they can fight against him.
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And it's totally one-sided.
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Sheila: okay, a new heaven and a new earth.
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A lot of people want to know, "okay, if i live in fargo now,
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Will i be living in fargo in the new heaven and the new earth?"
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Dr. jeremiah: well the bible tells us that the earth
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As we know it now is going to be cleansed.
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In the new testament, we're told it's going to burn up.
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The earth as we know it is not going to be destroyed,
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But it is going to be purged and cleansed.
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Sheila: some of the things, as you've said,
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We're not certain about, but one thing is very specific,
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And that's this number, 144,000.
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Tell us about that number.
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Dr. jeremiah: well that represents--there's 12 tribes
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Of israel.
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So, what is 12 times 12?
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Sheila: 144.
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Dr. jeremiah: there you go.
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And so, these will be jewish evangelists.
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I would tell people, you know, i have so many friends
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Who are jewish people and i love these people
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And their aggressiveness and how they go after
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Whatever they think they should go after.
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Can you imagine turning 144,000 jewish evangelists
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Loose on this earth?
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And the bible tells us that it will be
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The greatest revival ever in history.
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People will come to christ right and left,
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And then added to that, of course,
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Are the two witnesses.
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Sheila: who are the two witnesses?
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Dr. jeremiah: well--
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Sheila: what do we know?
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Dr. jeremiah: i believe it's moses and elijah.
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Moses was the great former of the law.
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Elijah was the great reformer of the law.
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They represent the old testament,
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And i believe that they will be
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The two witnesses on this earth,
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Two most beloved personages by the jewish people.
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And then of course some very miraculous things
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Are going to happen to these guys
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That will literally grab hold of the hearts of people
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On this earth.
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Sheila: can you see things already happening around us
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That are indications of the time we're living in?
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Dr. jeremiah: the greatest sign of the fact that we're moving
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Into this period of history is the return of israel
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Because none of the prophecies of the book of revelation,
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Or very few of them,
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Could happen if israel's not in the land.
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The fact that israel is back in her land is a set up
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And take notice to us about where we are.
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Then there are other things too.
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I mentioned some of the realignment of nations in europe
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Because in the end times we know there's a ten-nation coalition
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That will be on this earth.
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I remember 30 years ago i went to europe
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To speak at a missions conference
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And i had to stop at every border
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For the border patrol to get on the train.
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And now you can go clear across europe.
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You don't have to stop one time
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Because it's now the united states of europe.
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That is one of the things that's prophesied in the scripture.
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And there's just many others
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That are all coming together now.
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You know, we talked about the mark of the beast earlier
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And all of the imprints and hands
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That are becoming pretty common that make you realize,
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"well maybe that's the way the mark of the beast will work."
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All of those things, you just--you can't help
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But notice them.
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Sheila: what do you see as the next event
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On the prophetic timeline and calendar?
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Dr. jeremiah: i believe the only one
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That we can be certain of is the rapture.
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We know that's going to happen.
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So, when you read the passage in matthew
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That's about the beginning of sorrows
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And you read all of those signs that are a part
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Of what's going to happen in the early part
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Of the tribulation,
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You shouldn't be surprised to start seeing
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Some of those things here before the rapture happens
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Because they won't just not be here one day and the next day
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All of a sudden they're here.
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They will be on their way.
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And though there are no signs for the rapture,
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You can't get away from the fact
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That there are signs for the second advent.
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If some of the second advent signs are now appearing,
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We may be closer than we think.
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Sheila: so, nothing has to happen prophetically
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Before the rapture.
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Dr. jeremiah: there are no signs for the rapture.
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Sheila: wow.
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Is there any prophetic passage that has been particularly
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Meaningful to you as a pastor?
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Dr. jeremiah: one of the things that's interesting
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About prophecy is while people say it's not relevant,
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Almost every major prophetic passage in the bible,
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If you stay within the context
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Like within two or three verses,
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You will find a practical application from that.
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And let me just give you a couple of examples.
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You know, one of the great passages pastors like to preach
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On is in hebrews about going to church where it says,
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"and forsake not the assembling of yourselves together
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As the manner of some is," but then it says,
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"as the day is approaching,
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Become more committed to your church."
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So, here's this passage of scripture
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That talks about the coming of the lord.
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And in the midst of it, it says, "one of the things
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That you need to be aware of
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When you become aware of the coming of the lord
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Is the church is more important than you thought."
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Here's another illustration.
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This is a great passage.
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This is one of my favorite passages, john 14: 1-6.
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Jesus is communicating to his disciples that he's about to go
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Back to heaven and they don't know what this is all about.
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And jesus said, "let not your hearts be troubled;
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You believe in god, believe also in me.
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In my father's house there are many mansions;
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If it were not so, i would have told you,
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I go to prepare a place for you.
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And if i go to prepare a place for you,
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I will come again and bring you to heaven with me
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So that where i am, there you might be also."
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So, what did jesus say?
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He said, "i know you're worried about where i'm going,
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But don't be troubled."
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If you know what you know, you don't have to be troubled.
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You can live in this world and study prophecy,
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And wherever you go in the prophetic passage,
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You will find what god wants you to know about that.
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For instance, in the 1 john passage it says,
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"therefore, what manner of men should we be because of this?"
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Sheila: wow.
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I imagine so many people who think, "oh gosh,
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What i would give to sit down with dr. jeremiah."
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So, just let's imagine we allow that to happen.
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If somebody was sitting down with you right now
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In light of everything that we've discussed,
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What would you say to them?
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Dr. jeremiah: well i'd ask some questions.
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I would ask them, "if the lord jesus christ should come tonight
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And catch up all those who put their trust in him,
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Would you be in that group?"
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In other words, "are you ready to see jesus christ
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If he comes back?"
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Because if you're not, this is a great time to do that,
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To get ready, to receive him as your lord and savior.
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The bible says that almighty god loved this world so much
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That he sent his own son to this earth
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Who went to the cross and paid the penalty for our sin,
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The penalty we deserve.
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The bible says, "the wages of sin is death."
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Somebody had to die
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And almighty god sent his son here.
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He was god living in a body, and as the son of god,
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He went to the cross,
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And because his life was infinite,
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His death is infinite, and his death was equal
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To the death of everyone
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Who would ever be on this earth who would put
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Their trust in him.
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And what that means is one day in my life,
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I came to god in prayer and i said,
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"god, i know if jesus were to come today
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I wouldn't be ready.
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I want to receive jesus christ as my savior
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And accept what he did on the cross
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So that i can become a part of your forever family."
00:25:31.546 --> 00:25:34.916
I became a christian that day and everything
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In my life changed.
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And i've watched and witnessed that happening
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To thousands of people.
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I get letters from all over the world from people who say,
00:25:42.857 --> 00:25:45.894
"i now believe in jesus christ and i'm ready
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If jesus comes today."
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So, more than anything else, i'm praying that this series
00:25:50.031 --> 00:25:54.369
Will open the eyes of people to the reality of who jesus is,
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That he has a wonderful plan for our lives
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That includes eternity with the father.
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I've been so impressed recently of the many verses in the bible
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Where jesus says that he wants us to be with him over and over.
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I never saw that before.
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Almighty god wants us to be with him.
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I read somebody said, "if god had a refrigerator,
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Your picture would be on it," you know.
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And i believe that with all my heart.
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God loves us, and god is for us.
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And he wants more than anything else, sheila,
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For us to be with him forever.
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And he's laid out the plan so that we,
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Nobody needs to be left out.
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No matter what we've done or how far we may feel like we are away
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From god, almighty god loves us so much
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That he's made the way for us so that we can go to heaven
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And spend eternity with him.
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I hope that's the message that comes through.
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Sheila: dr. jeremiah, everywhere i travel around the country
00:26:52.093 --> 00:26:54.562
I hear people tell me how much your life,
00:26:54.562 --> 00:26:59.501
The work that you have poured yourself into,
00:26:59.501 --> 00:27:01.136
Has touched and changed their lives.
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So, i just want to be one voice to say thank you.
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Dr. jeremiah: you're welcome.
00:27:06.941 --> 00:27:08.343
Sheila, it's--i am more convinced than ever before
00:27:08.343 --> 00:27:12.414
Of the great joy that is mine.
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I couldn't ask for anything that's more of a privilege
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Than i have to be a voice for god in this world,
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And i hope i get to do it for a long time.
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Dr. jeremiah: what we do know for sure
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Is from the time you became a christian
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And the time i became a christian,
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The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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Sheila: that's good news.
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Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do is try to
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Determine the time, but to be ready whatever time it is.
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For an encore presentation of the prophecy interview,
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Where dr. jeremiah discusses the importance
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Of studying prophecy, here on "turning point."
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Dr. jeremiah: museums.
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Within the walls of these institutions,
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The signs of our history are preserved
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Through collections of artistic, cultural,
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And scientific importance.
00:30:09.624 --> 00:30:13.094
Exhibits chronicle the people, places, and events
00:30:13.094 --> 00:30:16.798
That have shaped our world.
00:30:16.798 --> 00:30:21.769
There is coming a series of events so apocalyptic
00:30:21.769 --> 00:30:25.974
It will put a period behind the world as we know it
00:30:25.974 --> 00:30:29.978
And not one museum will be left standing
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To memorialize its destruction.
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But what if we could visit such a place?
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A museum containing the signs of what is to come,
00:30:41.656 --> 00:30:45.627
Exhibits and remnants of the end times.
00:30:45.627 --> 00:30:49.564
What could we learn?
00:30:49.564 --> 00:30:51.399
How would it change the way we live today?
00:30:51.399 --> 00:30:56.571
Though in truth, a museum of this kind will never be built.
00:30:56.571 --> 00:31:00.608
Through the lens of god's word,
00:31:00.608 --> 00:31:02.510
Our imagination can catch a glimpse
00:31:02.510 --> 00:31:04.612
Of not what has happened, but will happen.
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Come with me on a tour of bible prophecy,
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And we will discover the signs god has laid out in scripture,
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Signs that assure us god has a plan
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For the future and for eternity.
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Announcer: and now, join esteemed bible teacher, pastor,
00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:28.436
And author, dr. david jeremiah, as he discusses the importance
00:31:28.436 --> 00:31:32.273
Of bible prophecy with your host, sheila walsh.
00:31:32.273 --> 00:31:35.610
Sheila walsh: let me ask you first of all,
00:31:35.677 --> 00:31:37.278
Where did your interest and your passion
00:31:37.278 --> 00:31:39.881
To understand prophecy begin?
00:31:39.881 --> 00:31:41.582
Dr. jeremiah: sheila, i grew up in a pastor's home
00:31:41.582 --> 00:31:43.651
And my dad who loved the word of god.
00:31:43.651 --> 00:31:46.821
Every year when i was growing up,
00:31:46.821 --> 00:31:48.690
We would have what they called evangelistic campaigns
00:31:48.690 --> 00:31:51.859
And sometimes they called them revivals,
00:31:51.859 --> 00:31:53.895
But they would bring people in from the outside.
00:31:53.895 --> 00:31:56.931
And almost every one of these people
00:31:56.931 --> 00:31:58.599
Who came would have one night devoted to prophecy.
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:03.137
I remember a man by the name of john carrera,
00:32:03.137 --> 00:32:06.174
Who used to come to our church every year.
00:32:06.174 --> 00:32:07.675
And every time he came on friday night,
00:32:07.675 --> 00:32:10.011
It was prophecy night, and he would spellbind us
00:32:10.011 --> 00:32:13.481
With what god had planned for us in the future.
00:32:13.481 --> 00:32:16.517
Jack van impe was another one who came
00:32:16.517 --> 00:32:18.419
And he would do the same thing.
00:32:18.419 --> 00:32:20.021
And then of course, god allowed me
00:32:20.021 --> 00:32:21.856
To go to dallas theological seminary,
00:32:21.856 --> 00:32:24.959
Where i sat under the teaching of dwight pentecost
00:32:24.959 --> 00:32:27.996
And john walvoord and the people who really have championed
00:32:27.996 --> 00:32:33.001
That cause.
00:32:33.001 --> 00:32:34.802
And i realized this is something i want to learn more about.
00:32:34.802 --> 00:32:39.607
And one of the first books
00:32:39.607 --> 00:32:41.242
I taught when i came to san diego was daniel.
00:32:41.242 --> 00:32:46.481
And when i got done with daniel, i taught revelation.
00:32:46.481 --> 00:32:49.550
Sheila: wow, that's quite an undertaking.
00:32:49.550 --> 00:32:51.252
Dr. jeremiah: and they changed my life, both of those books,
00:32:51.252 --> 00:32:54.389
Because they set the tone for what's happening
00:32:54.389 --> 00:32:57.191
And what's going to happen.
00:32:57.191 --> 00:32:58.559
Sheila: one of the things i love most about the way you teach
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.229
Is that you can take the most complicated subject
00:33:01.229 --> 00:33:05.066
And break it open in such a way that we all get it.
00:33:05.066 --> 00:33:09.070
But i wonder with the study you've done,
00:33:09.070 --> 00:33:10.938
How has it impacted your own personal life
00:33:10.938 --> 00:33:14.175
And spiritual journey?
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Dr. jeremiah: well the bible promises, believe it or not,
00:33:15.543 --> 00:33:18.246
In fact, the book of revelation
00:33:18.246 --> 00:33:19.714
Is the only book in the bible where we are told twice,
00:33:19.714 --> 00:33:23.317
"blessed are those who read this book."
00:33:23.317 --> 00:33:26.621
If you want to be blessed, you should read
00:33:26.621 --> 00:33:29.157
And study the book of revelation
00:33:29.157 --> 00:33:30.625
Because the bible promises that if you do,
00:33:30.625 --> 00:33:32.560
You will be blessed, and i surely have.
00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:34.962
I've learned so much about god's sovereignty
00:33:34.962 --> 00:33:40.535
And his wonderful promise to us
00:33:40.535 --> 00:33:43.071
That he's still in charge even though everything else
00:33:43.071 --> 00:33:45.540
Looks like it's going south on us.
00:33:45.540 --> 00:33:48.576
The wonderful truth about prophecy
00:33:48.576 --> 00:33:50.745
Is that it guarantees the integrity
00:33:50.745 --> 00:33:53.114
Of the rest of the bible.
00:33:53.114 --> 00:33:54.449
For instance, in the old testament
00:33:54.449 --> 00:33:56.717
There are over 300 prophecies about the first coming
00:33:56.717 --> 00:33:59.620
Of christ, where he would be born,
00:33:59.620 --> 00:34:02.156
What would happen to him as a child and all of this.
00:34:02.156 --> 00:34:05.626
Now we have the perspective of history to go back,
00:34:05.626 --> 00:34:07.962
Look at the prophecies and see
00:34:07.962 --> 00:34:09.964
Where they were fulfilled in exactness
00:34:09.964 --> 00:34:12.834
Without any mistake whatsoever.
00:34:12.834 --> 00:34:15.703
Now we have more than twice that many prophecies
00:34:15.703 --> 00:34:18.606
About the second coming of christ.
00:34:18.606 --> 00:34:20.708
So, here's the deal.
00:34:20.708 --> 00:34:22.143
If he was accurate in the first coming,
00:34:22.143 --> 00:34:24.479
Will he not be so accurate in the second coming?
00:34:24.479 --> 00:34:27.215
So, when you study prophecy, you get god's blueprint
00:34:27.215 --> 00:34:31.953
Of what's going to happen in the future
00:34:31.953 --> 00:34:33.855
And you begin to see things like the reemergence
00:34:33.855 --> 00:34:37.024
Of israel as a nation and the collection of nations
00:34:37.024 --> 00:34:40.361
In europe, and all of these things.
00:34:40.361 --> 00:34:42.230
And it's like you have a heads up on what's going on.
00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:45.299
The news is catching up with prophecy,
00:34:45.299 --> 00:34:47.802
And that's what happens when you study that.
00:34:47.802 --> 00:34:50.004
Sheila: does the bible say that we should study prophecy?
00:34:50.004 --> 00:34:53.207
Dr. jeremiah: yeah, the bible--actually,
00:34:53.207 --> 00:34:55.076
As i mentioned in the book of revelation,
00:34:55.076 --> 00:34:56.544
It tells us to read it and to study it.
00:34:56.544 --> 00:34:58.112
And the bible isn't something we can cut and slice and say,
00:34:58.112 --> 00:35:01.048
"oh, i like the narrative sections,"
00:35:01.048 --> 00:35:03.351
Or, "i like the old testament."
00:35:03.351 --> 00:35:05.286
The bible is a whole.
00:35:05.286 --> 00:35:06.954
And when you see it that way, in the book of revelation,
00:35:06.954 --> 00:35:09.624
You have the fulfillment of everything that's wrong
00:35:09.624 --> 00:35:11.893
In the book of genesis.
00:35:11.893 --> 00:35:13.494
You know, and i could go through,
00:35:13.494 --> 00:35:15.062
There's like 30 or 40 of these things.
00:35:15.062 --> 00:35:17.698
The book of revelation is the ultimate fulfillment
00:35:17.698 --> 00:35:20.234
Of god's plan for this world and for his people.
00:35:20.234 --> 00:35:23.738
And once you get--once you kind of get the end in revelation
00:35:23.738 --> 00:35:26.741
And you've got the beginning in genesis,
00:35:26.741 --> 00:35:28.609
The rest of it just starts to make sense.
00:35:28.609 --> 00:35:31.312
Sheila: in all the years you've had
00:35:31.312 --> 00:35:33.014
As a faithful, devoted pastor,
00:35:33.014 --> 00:35:35.416
Is there one question on prophecy
00:35:35.416 --> 00:35:37.818
That comes up more than any other,
00:35:37.818 --> 00:35:39.720
Or maybe one misconception about prophecy?
00:35:39.720 --> 00:35:42.490
Dr. jeremiah: i think maybe one of the misunderstandings
00:35:42.490 --> 00:35:46.427
That i deal with more than anything else
00:35:46.427 --> 00:35:49.530
Is the difference between the rapture
00:35:49.530 --> 00:35:52.033
And the second coming, because the two events
00:35:52.033 --> 00:35:54.802
Are totally different and they have totally different contexts.
00:35:54.802 --> 00:35:58.839
When jesus comes back in the rapture,
00:35:58.839 --> 00:36:00.741
It's to take every christian
00:36:00.741 --> 00:36:02.777
Who's still on this earth to heaven and resurrect
00:36:02.777 --> 00:36:04.946
All those who have died ahead of time.
00:36:04.946 --> 00:36:07.148
And we all go to heaven.
00:36:07.148 --> 00:36:08.783
And then seven years tribulation is on this earth.
00:36:08.783 --> 00:36:12.253
I happen to be one of those people
00:36:12.253 --> 00:36:13.988
Who does not believe the church will be in the tribulation.
00:36:13.988 --> 00:36:16.591
For the bible says, "there is therefore now no condemnation
00:36:16.591 --> 00:36:20.528
To those who were in christ jesus."
00:36:20.528 --> 00:36:22.196
I don't know how that promise could ever be fulfilled
00:36:22.196 --> 00:36:24.465
If we're gonna be in condemnation for seven years.
00:36:24.465 --> 00:36:27.235
At the end of the seven years, the bible says jesus comes back
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And those of us who went up come back.
00:36:30.838 --> 00:36:34.108
In the book of revelation,
00:36:34.108 --> 00:36:35.509
The door to heaven is opened twice.
00:36:35.509 --> 00:36:37.778
Once we go up and once we come back.
00:36:37.778 --> 00:36:40.281
And so, if we understand that the rapture
00:36:40.281 --> 00:36:42.450
Is when he comes for us
00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:44.385
And the second advent is when we come back with him
00:36:44.385 --> 00:36:46.887
To settle the events on this earth,
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Then we can keep those two things straight.
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Sheila: that makes it pretty clear.
00:36:51.259 --> 00:36:53.094
Often you'll hear people predicting
00:36:53.094 --> 00:36:55.830
This is going to be the day,
00:36:55.830 --> 00:36:57.398
And all sorts of people try and get their affairs in order,
00:36:57.398 --> 00:36:59.467
Or they run their credit cards up because they think,
00:36:59.467 --> 00:37:01.235
"i'm going to be out of here."
00:37:01.235 --> 00:37:02.570
Have you ever been tempted to name a day, and if not, why not?
00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:06.307
Dr. jeremiah: i suppose i've been tempted along the way
00:37:06.307 --> 00:37:07.942
To run a credit card up, but never for that reason.
00:37:07.942 --> 00:37:10.611
You know, i just, you know, here's the thing.
00:37:10.611 --> 00:37:13.381
If there's any question about which there is an absolute
00:37:13.381 --> 00:37:16.083
Definite answer, you just ask it.
00:37:16.083 --> 00:37:18.552
Because the bible says, "the lord jesus said,
00:37:18.552 --> 00:37:20.955
'no one knows the time of our lord's return
00:37:20.955 --> 00:37:23.891
Except the father.'"
00:37:23.891 --> 00:37:25.359
And when jesus was on the earth, he did not know.
00:37:25.359 --> 00:37:28.296
He was the son of god.
00:37:28.296 --> 00:37:29.630
The angels don't know.
00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:31.065
The bible does not tell us when he's going to come back.
00:37:31.065 --> 00:37:34.869
The bible does give us some indications
00:37:34.869 --> 00:37:39.073
Of when we're getting close.
00:37:39.073 --> 00:37:41.542
And one of the verses i love is this one that says,
00:37:41.542 --> 00:37:44.478
"for now is your redemption nearer than when you believed."
00:37:44.478 --> 00:37:49.684
What we do know for sure is from the time you became a christian
00:37:49.684 --> 00:37:53.254
And the time i became a christian,
00:37:53.254 --> 00:37:55.222
The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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Sheila: that's good news.
00:37:57.692 --> 00:37:59.026
Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do
00:37:59.026 --> 00:38:00.695
Is try to determine the time, but to be ready
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Whatever time it is.
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Sheila: i want to give you a list.
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I have formed a list of different prophetic terms
00:39:35.089 --> 00:39:37.191
That i've been questioned about
00:39:37.191 --> 00:39:38.993
And i'm sure people watching this want to know.
00:39:38.993 --> 00:39:41.295
So, i'm just going to throw these at you
00:39:41.295 --> 00:39:42.797
And see what you have to say.
00:39:42.797 --> 00:39:44.131
You already touched on this a little bit, the rapture.
00:39:44.131 --> 00:39:47.735
Why do some people believe that there's not going to be
00:39:47.735 --> 00:39:49.570
A rapture,
00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:50.905
That there's just--that christ is just going
00:39:50.905 --> 00:39:52.239
To come back again?
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.574
Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is in the book of thessalonians
00:39:53.574 --> 00:39:55.576
And in 1 corinthians 15,
00:39:55.576 --> 00:39:57.378
And you cannot read those passages
00:39:57.378 --> 00:39:58.813
With any kind of sense of, "is this the truth?"
00:39:58.813 --> 00:40:01.482
Without coming away with this.
00:40:01.482 --> 00:40:03.050
It's in the bible.
00:40:03.050 --> 00:40:04.385
It is absolutely clear.
00:40:04.385 --> 00:40:05.786
Paul said it was a new revelation
00:40:05.786 --> 00:40:07.288
That was not given to us in the old testament.
00:40:07.288 --> 00:40:09.356
It's one of those mysteries that god has unfolded for us.
00:40:09.356 --> 00:40:13.127
Sheila: wow.
00:40:13.127 --> 00:40:14.462
Okay, let's go for the tribulation.
00:40:14.462 --> 00:40:16.697
That's going to be a period of how long
00:40:16.697 --> 00:40:19.233
And what's going to happen during the tribulation?
00:40:19.233 --> 00:40:21.202
Dr. jeremiah: well, the tribulation is seven years
00:40:21.202 --> 00:40:22.937
Divided into two sections.
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The first is kind of what the bible refers to
00:40:25.873 --> 00:40:27.908
As the beginning of sorrows.
00:40:27.908 --> 00:40:29.410
It's kind of the heating up of the cauldron of pressure.
00:40:29.410 --> 00:40:32.913
And what happens in the tribulation is at the beginning
00:40:32.913 --> 00:40:35.683
Of the tribulation, the antichrist,
00:40:35.683 --> 00:40:38.819
Who's the incarnation of satan,
00:40:38.819 --> 00:40:41.121
Makes a covenant with israel for seven years
00:40:41.121 --> 00:40:43.858
That they will be able to worship in their temple
00:40:43.858 --> 00:40:45.793
And all of that.
00:40:45.793 --> 00:40:47.127
And at the end of three and a half years,
00:40:47.127 --> 00:40:48.829
He breaks that covenant.
00:40:48.829 --> 00:40:50.397
And when that happens, all hell breaks loose on this earth.
00:40:50.397 --> 00:40:54.034
And all i can say is when i read that, i'm so grateful
00:40:54.034 --> 00:40:58.239
That i'm not going to be here.
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.074
It will be worse than anything you can imagine.
00:41:00.074 --> 00:41:02.243
The stories of what happens during that time
00:41:02.243 --> 00:41:04.545
And the cruelty,
00:41:04.545 --> 00:41:05.880
The absolute--you see what happens
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.449
In some of the regimes that are in our world today
00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:11.118
Where there's no regard for human life.
00:41:11.118 --> 00:41:14.622
They are like child's play to what happens
00:41:14.622 --> 00:41:17.024
During that period of time.
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And it's sometimes referred to as the time of jacob's trouble,
00:41:18.926 --> 00:41:23.197
The time of israel's trouble.
00:41:23.197 --> 00:41:25.165
Sheial: okay, what about the antichrist?
00:41:25.165 --> 00:41:27.201
What do we know about the antichrist?
00:41:27.201 --> 00:41:29.537
Dr. jeremiah: well one thing for sure is that we don't know
00:41:29.537 --> 00:41:31.138
Who he is, even though a lot of christians play
00:41:31.138 --> 00:41:33.774
Pin the tail on the antichrist, you know.
00:41:33.774 --> 00:41:36.243
And they try to figure out who he is.
00:41:36.243 --> 00:41:37.578
We do not know.
00:41:37.578 --> 00:41:38.913
Anybody that says they know, they can't know.
00:41:38.913 --> 00:41:41.916
But we know a lot about him.
00:41:41.916 --> 00:41:43.951
He is the incarnation of satan.
00:41:43.951 --> 00:41:46.253
He is a man who has the oratorical ability
00:41:46.253 --> 00:41:49.056
Of adolf hitler,
00:41:49.056 --> 00:41:50.724
And--but all of the cruelty that goes along with it.
00:41:50.724 --> 00:41:53.327
He's the great deceiver.
00:41:53.327 --> 00:41:55.162
He mimics everything that jesus does.
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Anti doesn't mean just against, but it means instead of.
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So, he will present himself instead of christ.
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His whole regime is one of counterfeiting
00:42:03.537 --> 00:42:07.775
Everything that christ does.
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If you can go through the career of the antichrist,
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He doesn't have an original thought.
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All he does is try to counterfeit what the lord does.
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Sheila: okay, the mark of the beast.
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What is that?
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Dr. jeremiah: well in the book of revelation, we're told that
00:42:22.189 --> 00:42:24.191
During the tribulation period you have to take
00:42:24.191 --> 00:42:27.227
The mark of the beast in order to be able to survive.
00:42:27.227 --> 00:42:29.997
This is the economic control program of the antichrist.
00:42:29.997 --> 00:42:34.568
In other words, the mark of the beast is 666.
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And those who, if you won't bow down to the beast,
00:42:37.972 --> 00:42:41.642
If you won't bow down to the antichrist
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And give him your worship and take the mark,
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The bible says you will not be able to buy or sell.
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People who don't take the mark will literally
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Be starved out of existence.
00:42:52.853 --> 00:42:54.722
They won't be able to buy groceries,
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They won't be able to do business.
00:42:56.323 --> 00:42:58.125
And the mark of the beast
00:42:58.125 --> 00:42:59.627
Is the way the antichrist identifies his followers.
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Sheila: i've heard believers concerned and looking out
00:43:06.367 --> 00:43:08.869
For the mark of the beast, but clearly
00:43:08.869 --> 00:43:11.305
If it's in that time, then we're no longer here.
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Dr. jeremiah: that's right.
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No, we won't be here.
00:43:14.775 --> 00:43:16.110
If it--the mark of the beast does not affect believers
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Because again, in my opinion, we won't be here.
00:43:18.245 --> 00:43:23.150
Sheila: scripture talks about a one world government.
00:43:23.150 --> 00:43:26.487
What can you tell us about that?
00:43:26.487 --> 00:43:28.455
Dr. jeremiah: well globalism has been a big deal,
00:43:28.455 --> 00:43:30.190
Especially of late.
00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:31.892
In the end, there will be an attempt to unite the whole world
00:43:31.892 --> 00:43:35.562
So that this ruler will have--he'll have control
00:43:35.562 --> 00:43:40.968
Of it all.
00:43:40.968 --> 00:43:42.636
I'm gonna tell you what i know, sheila, god is not a globalist,
00:43:42.636 --> 00:43:46.407
He's a nationalist.
00:43:46.407 --> 00:43:47.941
The bible says he's made nations.
00:43:47.941 --> 00:43:50.244
According to the book of acts, the nations were created so that
00:43:50.244 --> 00:43:54.181
We would trust god, so that we wouldn't get caught up in the...
00:43:54.181 --> 00:43:57.618
And the globalism issue goes all the way back
00:43:57.618 --> 00:44:00.587
To the tower of babel
00:44:00.587 --> 00:44:02.356
When they had a language that was all the same
00:44:02.356 --> 00:44:04.892
And because they defied god, the language was confused.
00:44:04.892 --> 00:44:08.495
And ever since they've been trying to put
00:44:08.495 --> 00:44:10.230
This back together.
00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:11.665
And ultimately in the end, when the church is gone,
00:44:11.665 --> 00:44:15.002
The world will be kind of under one leader
00:44:15.002 --> 00:44:18.372
And that will be globalism.
00:44:18.372 --> 00:44:20.040
But it's certainly not anything we want to promote
00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:22.309
In this day and age.
00:44:22.309 --> 00:44:23.644
Sheila: no.
00:44:23.644 --> 00:44:24.978
What about the battle of armageddon?
00:44:24.978 --> 00:44:27.915
Where in the line of things--where does
00:44:27.915 --> 00:44:29.450
That take place?
00:44:29.450 --> 00:44:30.851
Dr. jeremiah: it's clear at the end of the tribulation.
00:44:30.851 --> 00:44:32.619
It's kind of the final scene in the tribulation.
00:44:32.619 --> 00:44:35.289
The forces of evil and the forces of good
00:44:35.289 --> 00:44:38.258
Will have one final encounter and the lord jesus christ
00:44:38.258 --> 00:44:42.062
Will be victorious.
00:44:42.062 --> 00:44:43.764
And, you know, all of the details of how the nations come
00:44:43.764 --> 00:44:47.267
Together and--first of all, they come after israel
00:44:47.267 --> 00:44:50.237
And then all of a sudden the lord jesus comes back,
00:44:50.237 --> 00:44:52.806
And then all of them turn and come after the lord.
00:44:52.806 --> 00:44:55.542
And the bible says he defeats them with the word of his mouth.
00:44:55.542 --> 00:45:00.781
You know, he goes, i tell people, he goes...and it's over.
00:45:00.781 --> 00:45:04.451
And because of his power.
00:45:04.451 --> 00:45:06.520
And the bible says we come back with him as believers.
00:45:06.520 --> 00:45:09.056
And some people say, "well, we're dressed in white.
00:45:09.056 --> 00:45:11.291
Those are not robes of warfare."
00:45:11.291 --> 00:45:13.127
That's true because we don't do anything.
00:45:13.127 --> 00:45:14.795
We're just spectators.
00:45:14.795 --> 00:45:16.330
We come back with the lord jesus.
00:45:16.330 --> 00:45:18.031
We watch his victory over all of the forces against him.
00:45:18.031 --> 00:45:21.235
And i think we cheer.
00:45:21.235 --> 00:45:23.303
Sheila: i'll be cheering.
00:45:23.303 --> 00:45:24.671
Dr. jeremiah: we don't do anything.
00:45:24.671 --> 00:45:26.006
He doesn't need us.
00:45:26.006 --> 00:45:27.741
Sheila: the millennium, we've talked a lot
00:45:27.741 --> 00:45:30.310
When we turned into a new millennium,
00:45:30.310 --> 00:45:31.812
That was a big deal.
00:45:31.812 --> 00:45:33.147
But what is the period of the millennium in biblical prophecy?
00:45:33.147 --> 00:45:35.616
Dr. jeremiah: well actually the word "mille" means a thousand.
00:45:35.616 --> 00:45:38.485
So, the millennium is a thousand years.
00:45:38.485 --> 00:45:40.687
And in the book of revelation, that is actually
00:45:40.687 --> 00:45:43.557
Mentioned four or five times in one chapter.
00:45:43.557 --> 00:45:46.160
The millennium is a thousand year reign of peace,
00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:50.364
And the lord jesus christ will be king.
00:45:50.364 --> 00:45:53.467
Surprising to a lot of folks,
00:45:53.467 --> 00:45:55.335
David will be his vice president,
00:45:55.335 --> 00:45:57.070
So to speak, and will sit on the throne with him,
00:45:57.070 --> 00:45:59.573
And they will rule the world in righteousness and in godliness.
00:45:59.573 --> 00:46:03.744
And there will still be sin in the millennium,
00:46:03.744 --> 00:46:05.946
But it will be short-lived.
00:46:05.946 --> 00:46:07.447
It will be dealt with immediately.
00:46:07.447 --> 00:46:09.383
And when you read about the millennium
00:46:09.383 --> 00:46:11.952
And how lifetime will be extended
00:46:11.952 --> 00:46:14.588
And the lion will lay down with the lamb
00:46:14.588 --> 00:46:17.424
And all of the hostilities that have been a part of our world
00:46:17.424 --> 00:46:20.794
Will be--they'll be gone.
00:46:20.794 --> 00:46:23.330
The millennium is an incredible thing.
00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:25.032
And you know what?
00:46:25.032 --> 00:46:26.533
Dwight pentecost, one of my teachers told me
00:46:26.533 --> 00:46:28.669
There is more information in the bible on the millennium
00:46:28.669 --> 00:46:31.939
Than any other period in all of scripture.
00:46:31.939 --> 00:46:35.042
And it's all tucked away in the old testament prophets
00:46:35.042 --> 00:46:38.312
Where you wouldn't necessarily go for it,
00:46:38.312 --> 00:46:40.781
But then you start to think about it.
00:46:40.781 --> 00:46:42.549
Every time you turn around, there's something in the bible
00:46:42.549 --> 00:46:44.885
About that period of time.
00:46:44.885 --> 00:46:46.920
Sheila: the second coming of christ,
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:48.255
You said that sometimes people get confused about the rapture
00:46:48.255 --> 00:46:50.657
And the second coming being the same.
00:46:50.657 --> 00:46:52.593
Tell us what we know about the second coming of christ.
00:46:52.593 --> 00:46:55.662
Dr. jeremiah: well it's the climax
00:46:55.662 --> 00:46:57.464
Of the battle of armageddon
00:46:57.464 --> 00:46:58.999
When the lord jesus comes back from heaven.
00:46:58.999 --> 00:47:02.469
The bible presents him as riding upon a white horse,
00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:05.772
Leading the holy angels and the saints,
00:47:05.772 --> 00:47:09.042
And they come and they do war against the evil
00:47:09.042 --> 00:47:13.046
That has been accumulated on this earth.
00:47:13.046 --> 00:47:16.783
Sheila: so, this leads to the battle of armageddon.
00:47:16.783 --> 00:47:18.452
Dr. jeremiah: it is the end of the battle of armageddon.
00:47:18.452 --> 00:47:20.654
All of this leads up to the return of christ.
00:47:20.654 --> 00:47:23.023
And when he comes back,
00:47:23.023 --> 00:47:24.358
He puts an end to it it pretty quickly.
00:47:24.358 --> 00:47:25.959
Here comes the lord jesus from heaven
00:47:25.959 --> 00:47:28.195
And people think they can fight against him.
00:47:28.195 --> 00:47:30.697
And it's totally one-sided.
00:47:30.697 --> 00:47:35.435
Sheila: okay, a new heaven and a new earth.
00:47:35.435 --> 00:47:37.604
A lot of people want to know, "okay, if i live in fargo now,
00:47:37.604 --> 00:47:40.607
Will i be living in fargo in the new heaven and the new earth?"
00:47:40.607 --> 00:47:43.911
Dr. jeremiah: well the bible tells us that the earth
00:47:43.911 --> 00:47:45.879
As we know it now is going to be cleansed.
00:47:45.879 --> 00:47:48.148
In the new testament, we're told it's going to burn up.
00:47:48.148 --> 00:47:50.951
The earth as we know it is not going to be destroyed,
00:47:50.951 --> 00:47:53.553
But it is going to be purged and cleansed.
00:47:53.553 --> 00:47:56.123
Sheila: some of the things, as you've said,
00:47:56.123 --> 00:47:58.492
We're not certain about, but one thing is very specific,
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And that's this number, 144,000.
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Tell us about that number.
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Dr. jeremiah: well that represents--there's 12 tribes
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Of israel.
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So, what is 12 times 12?
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Sheila: 144.
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Dr. jeremiah: there you go.
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And so, these will be jewish evangelists.
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I would tell people, you know, i have so many friends
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Who are jewish people and i love these people
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And their aggressiveness and how they go after
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Whatever they think they should go after.
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Can you imagine turning 144,000 jewish evangelists
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Loose on this earth?
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And the bible tells us that it will be
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The greatest revival ever in history.
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People will come to christ right and left,
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And then added to that, of course,
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Are the two witnesses.
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Sheila: who are the two witnesses?
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Dr. jeremiah: well--
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Sheila: what do we know?
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Dr. jeremiah: i believe it's moses and elijah.
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Moses was the great former of the law.
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Elijah was the great reformer of the law.
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They represent the old testament,
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And i believe that they will be
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The two witnesses on this earth,
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Two most beloved personages by the jewish people.
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And then of course some very miraculous things
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Are going to happen to these guys
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That will literally grab hold of the hearts of people
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On this earth.
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Sheila: can you see things already happening around us
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That are indications of the time we're living in?
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Dr. jeremiah: the greatest sign of the fact that we're moving
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Into this period of history is the return of israel
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Because none of the prophecies of the book of revelation,
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Or very few of them,
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Could happen if israel's not in the land.
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Sheila: is there any prophetic passage that has been
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Particularly meaningful to you as a pastor?
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Dr. jeremiah: one of the things that's interesting
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About prophecy is while people say it's not relevant,
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Almost every major prophetic passage in the bible,
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If you stay within the context
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Like within two or three verses,
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You will find a practical application from that.
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And let me just give you a couple of examples.
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You know, one of the great passages pastors like to preach
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On is in hebrews about going to church where it says,
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"and forsake not the assembling of yourselves together
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As the manner of some is," but then it says,
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"as the day is approaching,
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Become more committed to your church."
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So, here's this passage of scripture
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That talks about the coming of the lord.
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And in the midst of it, it says, "one of the things
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That you need to be aware of
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When you become aware of the coming of the lord
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Is the church is more important than you thought."
00:50:32.245 --> 00:50:35.515
Here's another illustration.
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This is a great passage.
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This is one of my favorite passages, john 14: 1-6.
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Jesus is communicating to his disciples that he's about to go
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Back to heaven and they don't know what this is all about.
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And jesus said, "let not your hearts be troubled;
00:50:47.060 --> 00:50:50.230
You believe in god, believe also in me.
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In my father's house there are many mansions;
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If it were not so, i would have told you,
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I go to prepare a place for you.
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And if i go to prepare a place for you,
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I will come again and bring you to heaven with me
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So that where i am, there you might be also."
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So, what did jesus say?
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He said, "i know you're worried about where i'm going,
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But don't be troubled."
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If you know what you know, you don't have to be troubled.
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You can live in this world and study prophecy,
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And wherever you go in the prophetic passage,
00:51:20.327 --> 00:51:23.230
You will find what god wants you to know about that.
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For instance, in the 1 john passage it says,
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"therefore, what manner of men should we be because of this?"
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Sheila: wow.
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I imagine so many people who think, "oh gosh,
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What i would give to sit down with dr. jeremiah."
00:51:35.509 --> 00:51:38.645
So, just let's imagine we allow that to happen.
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If somebody was sitting down with you right now
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In light of everything that we've discussed,
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What would you say to them?
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Dr. jeremiah: well i'd ask some questions.
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I would ask them, "if the lord jesus christ should come tonight
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And catch up all those who put their trust in him,
00:51:56.062 --> 00:51:58.999
Would you be in that group?"
00:51:58.999 --> 00:52:01.401
In other words, "are you ready to see jesus christ
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If he comes back?"
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Because if you're not, this is a great time to do that,
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To get ready, to receive him as your lord and savior.
00:52:11.011 --> 00:52:13.747
The bible says that almighty god loved this world so much
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That he sent his own son to this earth
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Who went to the cross and paid the penalty for our sin,
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The penalty we deserve.
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The bible says, "the wages of sin is death."
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Somebody had to die
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And almighty god sent his son here.
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He was god living in a body, and as the son of god,
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He went to the cross,
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And because his life was infinite,
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His death is infinite, and his death was equal
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To the death of everyone
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Who would ever be on this earth who would put
00:52:45.178 --> 00:52:46.580
Their trust in him.
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And what that means is one day in my life,
00:52:48.014 --> 00:52:51.218
I came to god in prayer and i said,
00:52:51.218 --> 00:52:53.620
"god, i know if jesus were to come today
00:52:53.620 --> 00:52:57.324
I wouldn't be ready.
00:52:57.324 --> 00:52:58.725
I want to receive jesus christ as my savior
00:52:58.725 --> 00:53:01.027
And accept what he did on the cross
00:53:01.027 --> 00:53:02.996
So that i can become a part of your forever family."
00:53:02.996 --> 00:53:06.366
I became a christian that day and everything
00:53:06.366 --> 00:53:08.535
In my life changed.
00:53:08.535 --> 00:53:10.103
And i've watched and witnessed that happening
00:53:10.103 --> 00:53:12.239
To thousands of people.
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.307
I get letters from all over the world from people who say,
00:53:14.307 --> 00:53:17.344
"i now believe in jesus christ and i'm ready
00:53:17.344 --> 00:53:19.713
If jesus comes today."
00:53:19.713 --> 00:53:21.481
So, more than anything else, i'm praying that this series
00:53:21.481 --> 00:53:25.819
Will open the eyes of people to the reality of who jesus is,
00:53:25.819 --> 00:53:30.123
That he has a wonderful plan for our lives
00:53:30.123 --> 00:53:32.592
That includes eternity with the father.
00:53:32.592 --> 00:53:35.996
I've been so impressed recently of the many verses in the bible
00:53:35.996 --> 00:53:39.566
Where jesus says that he wants us to be with him over and over.
00:53:39.566 --> 00:53:45.705
I never saw that before.
00:53:45.705 --> 00:53:47.340
Almighty god wants us to be with him.
00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:49.976
I read somebody said, "if god had a refrigerator,
00:53:49.976 --> 00:53:52.512
Your picture would be on it," you know.
00:53:52.512 --> 00:53:54.514
And i believe that with all my heart.
00:53:54.514 --> 00:53:56.182
God loves us, and god is for us.
00:53:56.182 --> 00:53:59.185
And he wants more than anything else, sheila,
00:53:59.185 --> 00:54:01.254
For us to be with him forever.
00:54:01.254 --> 00:54:03.523
And he's laid out the plan so that we,
00:54:03.523 --> 00:54:05.959
Nobody needs to be left out.
00:54:05.959 --> 00:54:07.694
No matter what we've done or how far we may feel like we are away
00:54:07.694 --> 00:54:11.164
From god, almighty god loves us so much
00:54:11.164 --> 00:54:14.301
That he's made the way for us so that we can go to heaven
00:54:14.301 --> 00:54:18.038
And spend eternity with him.
00:54:18.038 --> 00:54:20.140
I hope that's the message that comes through.
00:54:20.140 --> 00:54:23.543
Sheila: dr. jeremiah, everywhere i travel around the country
00:54:23.543 --> 00:54:26.012
I hear people tell me how much your life,
00:54:26.012 --> 00:54:30.950
The work that you have poured yourself into,
00:54:30.950 --> 00:54:32.585
Has touched and changed their lives.
00:54:32.585 --> 00:54:34.688
So, i just want to be one voice to say thank you.
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Dr. jeremiah: you're welcome.
00:54:38.391 --> 00:54:39.793
Sheila, it's--i am more convinced than ever before
00:54:39.793 --> 00:54:43.863
Of the great joy that is mine.
00:54:43.863 --> 00:54:45.765
I couldn't ask for anything that's more of a privilege
00:54:45.765 --> 00:54:48.968
Than i have to be a voice for god in this world,
00:54:48.968 --> 00:54:52.872
And i hope i get to do it for a long time.
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David Jeremiah - Signs Interview

May 4, 2025 | 57:29

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