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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Signs Interview | May 4, 2025
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- Male announcer: the future isn't a mystery, it's a masterpiece.
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- In "60 days of prophecies" by dr. jeremiah,
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- You'll see how scripture connects the past,
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- Present, and future.
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- Dr. david jeremiah: museums.
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- Within the walls of these institutions,
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- The signs of our history are preserved
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- Through collections of artistic, cultural,
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- And scientific importance.
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- Exhibits chronicle the people, places, and events
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- That have shaped our world.
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- There is coming a series of events so apocalyptic
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- It will put a period behind the world as we know it
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- And not one museum will be left standing
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- To memorialize its destruction.
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- But what if we could visit such a place?
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- A museum containing the signs of what is to come,
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- Exhibits and remnants of the end times.
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- What could we learn?
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- How would it change the way we live today?
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- Though in truth, a museum of this kind will never be built.
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- Through the lens of god's word,
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- Our imagination can catch a glimpse
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- Of not what has happened, but will happen.
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- Come with me on a tour of bible prophecy,
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- And we will discover the signs god has laid out in scripture,
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- Signs that assure us god has a plan
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- For the future and for eternity.
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- ♪♪♪
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- Announcer: and now, join esteemed bible teacher, pastor,
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- And author, dr. david jeremiah, as he discusses the importance
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- Of bible prophecy with your host, sheila walsh.
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- Sheila walsh: let me ask you first of all,
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- Where did your interest and your passion
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- To understand prophecy begin?
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- Dr. jeremiah: sheila, i grew up in a pastor's home
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- And my dad who loved the word of god.
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- Every year when i was growing up,
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- We would have what they called evangelistic campaigns
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- And sometimes they called them revivals,
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- But they would bring people in from the outside.
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- And almost every one of these people
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- Who came would have one night devoted to prophecy.
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- I remember a man by the name of john carrera,
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- Who used to come to our church every year.
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- And every time he came on friday night,
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- It was prophecy night, and he would spellbind us
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- With what god had planned for us in the future.
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- Jack van impe was another one who came
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- And he would do the same thing.
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- And then of course, god allowed me
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- To go to dallas theological seminary,
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- Where i sat under the teaching of dwight pentecost
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- And john walvoord and the people who really have championed
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- That cause.
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- And i realized this is something i want to learn more about.
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- And one of the first books
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- I taught when i came to san diego was daniel.
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- And when i got done with daniel, i taught revelation.
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- Sheila: wow, that's quite an undertaking.
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- Dr. jeremiah: and they changed my life, both of those books,
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- Because they set the tone for what's happening
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- And what's going to happen.
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- Sheila: one of the things i love most about the way you teach
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- Is that you can take the most complicated subject
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- And break it open in such a way that we all get it.
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- But i wonder with the study you've done,
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- How has it impacted your own personal life
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- And spiritual journey?
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- Dr. jeremiah: well the bible promises, believe it or not,
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- In fact, the book of revelation
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- Is the only book in the bible where we are told twice,
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- "blessed are those who read this book."
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- If you want to be blessed, you should read
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- And study the book of revelation
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- Because the bible promises that if you do,
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- You will be blessed, and i surely have.
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- I've learned so much about god's sovereignty
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- And his wonderful promise to us
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- That he's still in charge even though everything else
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- Looks like it's going south on us.
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- The wonderful truth about prophecy
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- Is that it guarantees the integrity
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- Of the rest of the bible.
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- For instance, in the old testament
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- There are over 300 prophecies about the first coming
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- Of christ, where he would be born,
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- What would happen to him as a child and all of this.
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- Now we have the perspective of history to go back,
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- Look at the prophecies and see
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- Where they were fulfilled in exactness
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- Without any mistake whatsoever.
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- Now we have more than twice that many prophecies
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- About the second coming of christ.
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- So, here's the deal.
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- If he was accurate in the first coming,
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- Will he not be so accurate in the second coming?
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- So, when you study prophecy, you get god's blueprint
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- Of what's going to happen in the future
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- And you begin to see things like the reemergence
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- Of israel as a nation and the collection of nations
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- In europe, and all of these things.
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- And it's like you have a heads up on what's going on.
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- The news is catching up with prophecy,
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- And that's what happens when you study that.
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- Sheila: does the bible say that we should study prophecy?
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- Dr. jeremiah: yeah, the bible--actually,
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- As i mentioned in the book of revelation,
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- It tells us to read it and to study it.
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- And the bible isn't something we can cut and slice and say,
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- "oh, i like the narrative sections,"
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- Or, "i like the old testament."
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- The bible is a whole.
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- And when you see it that way, in the book of revelation,
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- You have the fulfillment of everything that's wrong
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- In the book of genesis.
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- You know, and i could go through,
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- There's like 30 or 40 of these things.
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- The book of revelation is the ultimate fulfillment
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- Of god's plan for this world and for his people.
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- And once you get--once you kind of get the end in revelation
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- And you've got the beginning in genesis,
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- The rest of it just starts to make sense.
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- Sheila: in all the years you've had
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- As a faithful, devoted pastor,
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- Is there one question on prophecy
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- That comes up more than any other,
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- Or maybe one misconception about prophecy?
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- Dr. jeremiah: i think maybe one of the misunderstandings
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- That i deal with more than anything else
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- Is the difference between the rapture
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- And the second coming, because the two events
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- Are totally different and they have totally different contexts.
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- When jesus comes back in the rapture,
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- It's to take every christian
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- Who's still on this earth to heaven and resurrect
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- All those who have died ahead of time.
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- And we all go to heaven.
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- And then seven years tribulation is on this earth.
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- I happen to be one of those people
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- Who does not believe the church will be in the tribulation.
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- For the bible says, "there is therefore now no condemnation
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- To those who were in christ jesus."
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- I don't know how that promise could ever be fulfilled
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- If we're gonna be in condemnation for seven years.
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- At the end of the seven years, the bible says jesus comes back
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- And those of us who went up come back.
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- In the book of revelation,
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- The door to heaven is opened twice.
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- Once we go up and once we come back.
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- And so, if we understand that the rapture
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- Is when he comes for us
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- And the second advent is when we come back with him
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- To settle the events on this earth,
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- Then we can keep those two things straight.
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- Sheila: that makes it pretty clear.
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- Often you'll hear people predicting
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- This is going to be the day,
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- And all sorts of people try and get their affairs in order,
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- Or they run their credit cards up because they think,
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- "i'm going to be out of here."
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- Have you ever been tempted to name a day, and if not, why not?
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- Dr. jeremiah: i suppose i've been tempted along the way
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- To run a credit card up, but never for that reason.
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- You know, i just, you know, here's the thing.
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- If there's any question about which there is an absolute
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- Definite answer, you just ask it.
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- Because the bible says, "the lord jesus said,
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- 'no one knows the time of our lord's return
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- Except the father.'"
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- And when jesus was on the earth, he did not know.
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- He was the son of god.
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- The angels don't know.
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- The bible does not tell us when he's going to come back.
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- The bible does give us some indications
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- Of when we're getting close.
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- And one of the verses i love is this one that says,
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- "for now is your redemption nearer than when you believed."
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- What we do know for sure is from the time you became a christian
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- And the time i became a christian,
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- The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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- Sheila: that's good news.
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- Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do
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- Is try to determine the time, but to be ready
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- Whatever time it is.
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- Sheila: i want to give you a list.
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- I have formed a list of different prophetic terms
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- That i've been questioned about
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- And i'm sure people watching this want to know.
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- So, i'm just going to throw these at you
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- And see what you have to say.
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- You already touched on this a little bit, the rapture.
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- Why do some people believe that there's not going to be
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- A rapture,
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- That there's just--that christ is just going
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- To come back again?
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- Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is in the book of thessalonians
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- And in 1 corinthians 15,
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- And you cannot read those passages
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- With any kind of sense of, "is this the truth?"
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- Without coming away with this.
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- It's in the bible.
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- It is absolutely clear.
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- Paul said it was a new revelation
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- That was not given to us in the old testament.
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- It's one of those mysteries that god has unfolded for us.
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- Sheila: wow.
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- Okay, let's go for the tribulation.
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- That's going to be a period of how long
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- And what's going to happen during the tribulation?
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- Dr. jeremiah: well, the tribulation is seven years
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- Divided into two sections.
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- The first is kind of what the bible refers to
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- As the beginning of sorrows.
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- It's kind of the heating up of the cauldron of pressure.
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- And what happens in the tribulation is at the beginning
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- Of the tribulation, the antichrist,
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- Who's the incarnation of satan,
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- Makes a covenant with israel for seven years
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- That they will be able to worship in their temple
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- And all of that.
- 00:11:16.325 --> 00:11:17.660
- And at the end of three and a half years,
- 00:11:17.660 --> 00:11:19.361
- He breaks that covenant.
- 00:11:19.361 --> 00:11:20.930
- And when that happens, all hell breaks loose on this earth.
- 00:11:20.930 --> 00:11:24.567
- And all i can say is when i read that, i'm so grateful
- 00:11:24.567 --> 00:11:28.771
- That i'm not going to be here.
- 00:11:28.771 --> 00:11:30.606
- It will be worse than anything you can imagine.
- 00:11:30.606 --> 00:11:32.775
- The stories of what happens during that time
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- And the cruelty,
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- The absolute--you see what happens
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- In some of the regimes that are in our world today
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- Where there's no regard for human life.
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- They are like child's play to what happens
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- During that period of time.
- 00:11:47.556 --> 00:11:49.458
- And it's sometimes referred to as the time of jacob's trouble,
- 00:11:49.458 --> 00:11:53.729
- The time of israel's trouble.
- 00:11:53.729 --> 00:11:55.765
- And it's not a pretty picture.
- 00:11:55.765 --> 00:11:58.901
- Sheila: dark time.
- 00:11:58.901 --> 00:12:00.236
- Okay, what about the antichrist?
- 00:12:00.236 --> 00:12:02.271
- What do we know about the antichrist?
- 00:12:02.271 --> 00:12:04.607
- Dr. jeremiah: well one thing for sure is that we don't know
- 00:12:04.607 --> 00:12:06.208
- Who he is, even though a lot of christians play
- 00:12:06.208 --> 00:12:08.844
- Pin the tail on the antichrist, you know.
- 00:12:08.844 --> 00:12:11.313
- And they try to figure out who he is.
- 00:12:11.313 --> 00:12:12.648
- We do not know.
- 00:12:12.648 --> 00:12:13.983
- Anybody that says they know, they can't know.
- 00:12:13.983 --> 00:12:16.652
- But we know a lot about him.
- 00:12:16.652 --> 00:12:18.687
- He is the incarnation of satan.
- 00:12:18.687 --> 00:12:20.990
- He is a man who has the oratorical ability
- 00:12:20.990 --> 00:12:23.793
- Of adolf hitler,
- 00:12:23.793 --> 00:12:25.461
- And--but all of the cruelty that goes along with it.
- 00:12:25.461 --> 00:12:28.063
- He's the great deceiver.
- 00:12:28.063 --> 00:12:29.899
- He mimics everything that jesus does.
- 00:12:29.899 --> 00:12:32.067
- Anti doesn't mean just against, but it means instead of.
- 00:12:32.067 --> 00:12:35.371
- So, he will present himself instead of christ.
- 00:12:35.371 --> 00:12:38.274
- His whole regime is one of counterfeiting
- 00:12:38.274 --> 00:12:42.511
- Everything that christ does.
- 00:12:42.511 --> 00:12:44.446
- If you can go through the career of the antichrist,
- 00:12:44.446 --> 00:12:47.650
- He doesn't have an original thought.
- 00:12:47.650 --> 00:12:49.819
- All he does is try to counterfeit what the lord does.
- 00:12:49.819 --> 00:12:53.088
- Sheila: okay, the mark of the beast.
- 00:12:53.088 --> 00:12:55.591
- What is that?
- 00:12:55.591 --> 00:12:56.926
- Dr. jeremiah: well in the book of revelation, we're told that
- 00:12:56.926 --> 00:12:58.928
- During the tribulation period you have to take
- 00:12:58.928 --> 00:13:01.964
- The mark of the beast in order to be able to survive.
- 00:13:01.964 --> 00:13:04.733
- This is the economic control program of the antichrist.
- 00:13:04.733 --> 00:13:09.305
- In other words, the mark of the beast is 666.
- 00:13:09.305 --> 00:13:12.708
- And those who, if you won't bow down to the beast,
- 00:13:12.708 --> 00:13:16.378
- If you won't bow down to the antichrist
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- And give him your worship and take the mark,
- 00:13:18.414 --> 00:13:22.451
- The bible says you will not be able to buy or sell.
- 00:13:22.451 --> 00:13:25.454
- People who don't take the mark will literally
- 00:13:25.454 --> 00:13:27.590
- Be starved out of existence.
- 00:13:27.590 --> 00:13:29.458
- They won't be able to buy groceries,
- 00:13:29.458 --> 00:13:31.060
- They won't be able to do business.
- 00:13:31.060 --> 00:13:32.862
- And the mark of the beast
- 00:13:32.862 --> 00:13:34.363
- Is the way the antichrist identifies his followers.
- 00:13:34.363 --> 00:13:41.103
- Sheila: i've heard believers concerned and looking out
- 00:13:41.103 --> 00:13:43.606
- For the mark of the beast, but clearly
- 00:13:43.606 --> 00:13:46.041
- If it's in that time, then we're no longer here.
- 00:13:46.041 --> 00:13:48.177
- Dr. jeremiah: that's right.
- 00:13:48.177 --> 00:13:49.511
- No, we won't be here.
- 00:13:49.511 --> 00:13:50.846
- If it--the mark of the beast does not affect believers
- 00:13:50.846 --> 00:13:52.982
- Because again, in my opinion, we won't be here.
- 00:13:52.982 --> 00:13:57.887
- Sheila: scripture talks about a one world government.
- 00:13:57.887 --> 00:14:01.223
- What can you tell us about that?
- 00:14:01.223 --> 00:14:03.192
- Dr. jeremiah: well globalism has been a big deal,
- 00:14:03.192 --> 00:14:04.927
- Especially of late.
- 00:14:04.927 --> 00:14:06.629
- In the end, there will be an attempt to unite the whole world
- 00:14:06.629 --> 00:14:10.299
- So that this ruler will have--he'll have control
- 00:14:10.299 --> 00:14:15.704
- Of it all.
- 00:14:15.704 --> 00:14:17.373
- I'm gonna tell you what i know, sheila, god is not a globalist,
- 00:14:17.373 --> 00:14:21.143
- He's a nationalist.
- 00:14:21.143 --> 00:14:22.678
- The bible says he's made nations.
- 00:14:22.678 --> 00:14:24.980
- According to the book of acts, the nations were created so that
- 00:14:24.980 --> 00:14:28.918
- We would trust god, so that we wouldn't get caught up in the...
- 00:14:28.918 --> 00:14:32.354
- And the globalism issue goes all the way back
- 00:14:32.354 --> 00:14:35.324
- To the tower of babel
- 00:14:35.324 --> 00:14:37.092
- When they had a language that was all the same
- 00:14:37.092 --> 00:14:39.628
- And because they defied god, the language was confused.
- 00:14:39.628 --> 00:14:43.232
- And ever since they've been trying to put
- 00:14:43.232 --> 00:14:44.967
- This back together.
- 00:14:44.967 --> 00:14:46.402
- And ultimately in the end, when the church is gone,
- 00:14:46.402 --> 00:14:49.738
- The world will be kind of under one leader
- 00:14:49.738 --> 00:14:53.108
- And that will be globalism.
- 00:14:53.108 --> 00:14:54.777
- But it's certainly not anything we want to promote
- 00:14:54.777 --> 00:14:57.046
- In this day and age.
- 00:14:57.046 --> 00:14:58.380
- Sheila: no.
- 00:14:58.380 --> 00:14:59.715
- What about the battle of armageddon?
- 00:14:59.715 --> 00:15:02.651
- Where in the line of things--where does
- 00:15:02.651 --> 00:15:04.186
- That take place?
- 00:15:04.186 --> 00:15:05.587
- Dr. jeremiah: it's clear at the end of the tribulation.
- 00:15:05.587 --> 00:15:07.356
- It's kind of the final scene in the tribulation.
- 00:15:07.356 --> 00:15:10.025
- The forces of evil and the forces of good
- 00:15:10.025 --> 00:15:12.995
- Will have one final encounter and the lord jesus christ
- 00:15:12.995 --> 00:15:16.799
- Will be victorious.
- 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.500
- And, you know, all of the details of how the nations come
- 00:15:18.500 --> 00:15:22.004
- Together and--first of all, they come after israel
- 00:15:22.004 --> 00:15:24.974
- And then all of a sudden the lord jesus comes back,
- 00:15:24.974 --> 00:15:27.543
- And then all of them turn and come after the lord.
- 00:15:27.543 --> 00:15:30.279
- And the bible says he defeats them with the word of his mouth.
- 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:35.517
- You know, he goes, i tell people, he goes...and it's over.
- 00:15:35.517 --> 00:15:39.188
- And because of his power.
- 00:15:39.188 --> 00:15:41.256
- And the bible says we come back with him as believers.
- 00:15:41.256 --> 00:15:43.792
- And some people say, "well, we're dressed in white.
- 00:15:43.792 --> 00:15:46.028
- Those are not robes of warfare."
- 00:15:46.028 --> 00:15:47.863
- That's true because we don't do anything.
- 00:15:47.863 --> 00:15:49.531
- We're just spectators.
- 00:15:49.531 --> 00:15:51.066
- We come back with the lord jesus.
- 00:15:51.066 --> 00:15:52.768
- We watch his victory over all of the forces against him.
- 00:15:52.768 --> 00:15:55.971
- And i think we cheer.
- 00:15:55.971 --> 00:15:58.040
- Sheila: i'll be cheering.
- 00:15:58.040 --> 00:15:59.408
- Dr. jeremiah: we don't do anything.
- 00:15:59.408 --> 00:16:00.743
- He doesn't need us.
- 00:16:00.743 --> 00:16:02.478
- Sheila: the millennium, we've talked a lot
- 00:16:02.478 --> 00:16:05.047
- When we turned into a new millennium,
- 00:16:05.047 --> 00:16:06.548
- That was a big deal.
- 00:16:06.548 --> 00:16:07.883
- But what is the period of the millennium in biblical prophecy?
- 00:16:07.883 --> 00:16:10.352
- Dr. jeremiah: well actually the word "mille" means a thousand.
- 00:16:10.352 --> 00:16:13.222
- So, the millennium is a thousand years.
- 00:16:13.222 --> 00:16:15.424
- And in the book of revelation, that is actually
- 00:16:15.424 --> 00:16:18.293
- Mentioned four or five times in one chapter.
- 00:16:18.293 --> 00:16:20.896
- The millennium is a thousand year reign of peace,
- 00:16:20.896 --> 00:16:25.100
- And the lord jesus christ will be king.
- 00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:28.203
- Surprising to a lot of folks,
- 00:16:28.203 --> 00:16:30.072
- David will be his vice president,
- 00:16:30.072 --> 00:16:31.807
- So to speak, and will sit on the throne with him,
- 00:16:31.807 --> 00:16:34.309
- And they will rule the world in righteousness and in godliness.
- 00:16:34.309 --> 00:16:38.480
- And there will still be sin in the millennium,
- 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:40.682
- But it will be short-lived.
- 00:16:40.682 --> 00:16:42.184
- It will be dealt with immediately.
- 00:16:42.184 --> 00:16:44.119
- And when you read about the millennium
- 00:16:44.119 --> 00:16:46.688
- And how lifetime will be extended
- 00:16:46.688 --> 00:16:49.324
- And the lion will lay down with the lamb
- 00:16:49.324 --> 00:16:52.161
- And all of the hostilities that have been a part of our world
- 00:16:52.161 --> 00:16:55.531
- Will be--they'll be gone.
- 00:16:55.531 --> 00:16:58.067
- The millennium is an incredible thing.
- 00:16:58.067 --> 00:16:59.768
- And you know what?
- 00:16:59.768 --> 00:17:01.270
- Dwight pentecost, one of my teachers told me
- 00:17:01.270 --> 00:17:03.405
- There is more information in the bible on the millennium
- 00:17:03.405 --> 00:17:06.675
- Than any other period in all of scripture.
- 00:17:06.675 --> 00:17:09.778
- And it's all tucked away in the old testament prophets
- 00:17:09.778 --> 00:17:13.048
- Where you wouldn't necessarily go for it,
- 00:17:13.048 --> 00:17:15.517
- But then you start to think about it.
- 00:17:15.517 --> 00:17:17.286
- Every time you turn around, there's something in the bible
- 00:17:17.286 --> 00:17:19.621
- About that period of time.
- 00:17:19.621 --> 00:17:21.657
- Sheila: the second coming of christ,
- 00:17:21.657 --> 00:17:22.991
- You said that sometimes people get confused about the rapture
- 00:17:22.991 --> 00:17:25.394
- And the second coming being the same.
- 00:17:25.394 --> 00:17:27.329
- Tell us what we know about the second coming of christ.
- 00:17:27.329 --> 00:17:30.399
- Dr. jeremiah: well it's the climax
- 00:17:30.399 --> 00:17:32.201
- Of the battle of armageddon
- 00:17:32.201 --> 00:17:33.735
- When the lord jesus comes back from heaven.
- 00:17:33.735 --> 00:17:37.206
- The bible presents him as riding upon a white horse,
- 00:17:37.206 --> 00:17:40.509
- Leading the holy angels and the saints,
- 00:17:40.509 --> 00:17:43.779
- And they come and they do war against the evil
- 00:17:43.779 --> 00:17:47.783
- That has been accumulated on this earth.
- 00:17:47.783 --> 00:17:51.520
- Sheila: so, this leads to the battle of armageddon.
- 00:17:51.520 --> 00:17:53.188
- Dr. jeremiah: it is the end of the battle of armageddon.
- 00:17:53.188 --> 00:17:55.390
- All of this leads up to the return of christ.
- 00:17:55.390 --> 00:17:57.759
- And when he comes back,
- 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.094
- He puts an end to it it pretty quickly.
- 00:17:59.094 --> 00:18:00.696
- Here comes the lord jesus from heaven
- 00:18:00.696 --> 00:18:02.931
- And people think they can fight against him.
- 00:18:02.931 --> 00:18:05.434
- And it's totally one-sided.
- 00:18:05.434 --> 00:18:10.172
- Sheila: okay, a new heaven and a new earth.
- 00:18:10.172 --> 00:18:12.341
- A lot of people want to know, "okay, if i live in fargo now,
- 00:18:12.341 --> 00:18:15.344
- Will i be living in fargo in the new heaven and the new earth?"
- 00:18:15.344 --> 00:18:18.647
- Dr. jeremiah: well the bible tells us that the earth
- 00:18:18.647 --> 00:18:20.616
- As we know it now is going to be cleansed.
- 00:18:20.616 --> 00:18:22.885
- In the new testament, we're told it's going to burn up.
- 00:18:22.885 --> 00:18:25.687
- The earth as we know it is not going to be destroyed,
- 00:18:25.687 --> 00:18:28.290
- But it is going to be purged and cleansed.
- 00:18:28.290 --> 00:18:30.859
- Sheila: some of the things, as you've said,
- 00:18:30.859 --> 00:18:33.228
- We're not certain about, but one thing is very specific,
- 00:18:33.228 --> 00:18:36.732
- And that's this number, 144,000.
- 00:18:36.732 --> 00:18:40.802
- Tell us about that number.
- 00:18:40.802 --> 00:18:42.204
- Dr. jeremiah: well that represents--there's 12 tribes
- 00:18:42.204 --> 00:18:44.540
- Of israel.
- 00:18:44.540 --> 00:18:46.074
- So, what is 12 times 12?
- 00:18:46.074 --> 00:18:48.477
- Sheila: 144.
- 00:18:48.477 --> 00:18:49.811
- Dr. jeremiah: there you go.
- 00:18:49.811 --> 00:18:51.146
- And so, these will be jewish evangelists.
- 00:18:51.146 --> 00:18:54.516
- I would tell people, you know, i have so many friends
- 00:18:54.516 --> 00:18:57.085
- Who are jewish people and i love these people
- 00:18:57.085 --> 00:18:58.954
- And their aggressiveness and how they go after
- 00:18:58.954 --> 00:19:02.357
- Whatever they think they should go after.
- 00:19:02.357 --> 00:19:04.893
- Can you imagine turning 144,000 jewish evangelists
- 00:19:04.893 --> 00:19:08.897
- Loose on this earth?
- 00:19:08.897 --> 00:19:10.432
- And the bible tells us that it will be
- 00:19:10.432 --> 00:19:14.102
- The greatest revival ever in history.
- 00:19:14.102 --> 00:19:16.872
- People will come to christ right and left,
- 00:19:16.872 --> 00:19:18.807
- And then added to that, of course,
- 00:19:18.807 --> 00:19:20.842
- Are the two witnesses.
- 00:19:20.842 --> 00:19:22.444
- Sheila: who are the two witnesses?
- 00:19:22.444 --> 00:19:23.946
- Dr. jeremiah: well--
- 00:19:23.946 --> 00:19:25.280
- Sheila: what do we know?
- 00:19:25.280 --> 00:19:26.615
- Dr. jeremiah: i believe it's moses and elijah.
- 00:19:26.615 --> 00:19:27.950
- Moses was the great former of the law.
- 00:19:27.950 --> 00:19:32.654
- Elijah was the great reformer of the law.
- 00:19:32.654 --> 00:19:35.891
- They represent the old testament,
- 00:19:35.891 --> 00:19:37.926
- And i believe that they will be
- 00:19:37.926 --> 00:19:40.562
- The two witnesses on this earth,
- 00:19:40.562 --> 00:19:42.698
- Two most beloved personages by the jewish people.
- 00:19:42.698 --> 00:19:46.568
- And then of course some very miraculous things
- 00:19:46.568 --> 00:19:48.370
- Are going to happen to these guys
- 00:19:48.370 --> 00:19:49.838
- That will literally grab hold of the hearts of people
- 00:19:49.838 --> 00:19:53.976
- On this earth.
- 00:19:53.976 --> 00:19:55.644
- Sheila: can you see things already happening around us
- 00:19:55.644 --> 00:19:59.214
- That are indications of the time we're living in?
- 00:19:59.214 --> 00:20:01.984
- Dr. jeremiah: the greatest sign of the fact that we're moving
- 00:20:01.984 --> 00:20:04.886
- Into this period of history is the return of israel
- 00:20:04.886 --> 00:20:08.523
- Because none of the prophecies of the book of revelation,
- 00:20:08.523 --> 00:20:11.159
- Or very few of them,
- 00:20:11.159 --> 00:20:12.494
- Could happen if israel's not in the land.
- 00:20:12.494 --> 00:20:15.063
- The fact that israel is back in her land is a set up
- 00:20:15.063 --> 00:20:19.101
- And take notice to us about where we are.
- 00:20:19.101 --> 00:20:23.639
- Then there are other things too.
- 00:20:23.639 --> 00:20:25.274
- I mentioned some of the realignment of nations in europe
- 00:20:25.274 --> 00:20:29.544
- Because in the end times we know there's a ten-nation coalition
- 00:20:29.544 --> 00:20:33.248
- That will be on this earth.
- 00:20:33.248 --> 00:20:34.850
- I remember 30 years ago i went to europe
- 00:20:34.850 --> 00:20:36.852
- To speak at a missions conference
- 00:20:36.852 --> 00:20:38.687
- And i had to stop at every border
- 00:20:38.687 --> 00:20:40.722
- For the border patrol to get on the train.
- 00:20:40.722 --> 00:20:43.158
- And now you can go clear across europe.
- 00:20:43.158 --> 00:20:44.726
- You don't have to stop one time
- 00:20:44.726 --> 00:20:46.528
- Because it's now the united states of europe.
- 00:20:46.528 --> 00:20:50.732
- That is one of the things that's prophesied in the scripture.
- 00:20:50.732 --> 00:20:54.369
- And there's just many others
- 00:20:54.369 --> 00:20:55.871
- That are all coming together now.
- 00:20:55.871 --> 00:20:58.073
- You know, we talked about the mark of the beast earlier
- 00:20:58.073 --> 00:21:00.309
- And all of the imprints and hands
- 00:21:00.309 --> 00:21:03.211
- That are becoming pretty common that make you realize,
- 00:21:03.211 --> 00:21:08.950
- "well maybe that's the way the mark of the beast will work."
- 00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:11.420
- All of those things, you just--you can't help
- 00:21:11.420 --> 00:21:13.388
- But notice them.
- 00:21:13.388 --> 00:21:15.123
- Sheila: what do you see as the next event
- 00:21:15.123 --> 00:21:17.759
- On the prophetic timeline and calendar?
- 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.128
- Dr. jeremiah: i believe the only one
- 00:21:20.128 --> 00:21:21.496
- That we can be certain of is the rapture.
- 00:21:21.496 --> 00:21:24.433
- We know that's going to happen.
- 00:21:24.433 --> 00:21:26.668
- So, when you read the passage in matthew
- 00:21:26.668 --> 00:21:29.071
- That's about the beginning of sorrows
- 00:21:29.071 --> 00:21:31.273
- And you read all of those signs that are a part
- 00:21:31.273 --> 00:21:33.909
- Of what's going to happen in the early part
- 00:21:33.909 --> 00:21:35.310
- Of the tribulation,
- 00:21:35.310 --> 00:21:36.745
- You shouldn't be surprised to start seeing
- 00:21:36.745 --> 00:21:38.714
- Some of those things here before the rapture happens
- 00:21:38.714 --> 00:21:42.217
- Because they won't just not be here one day and the next day
- 00:21:42.217 --> 00:21:46.621
- All of a sudden they're here.
- 00:21:46.621 --> 00:21:48.090
- They will be on their way.
- 00:21:48.090 --> 00:21:50.192
- And though there are no signs for the rapture,
- 00:21:50.192 --> 00:21:53.395
- You can't get away from the fact
- 00:21:53.395 --> 00:21:54.963
- That there are signs for the second advent.
- 00:21:54.963 --> 00:21:57.199
- If some of the second advent signs are now appearing,
- 00:21:57.199 --> 00:22:00.135
- We may be closer than we think.
- 00:22:00.135 --> 00:22:02.671
- Sheila: so, nothing has to happen prophetically
- 00:22:02.671 --> 00:22:05.140
- Before the rapture.
- 00:22:05.140 --> 00:22:06.575
- Dr. jeremiah: there are no signs for the rapture.
- 00:22:06.575 --> 00:22:08.076
- Sheila: wow.
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- Is there any prophetic passage that has been particularly
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- Meaningful to you as a pastor?
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- Dr. jeremiah: one of the things that's interesting
- 00:22:14.750 --> 00:22:16.084
- About prophecy is while people say it's not relevant,
- 00:22:16.084 --> 00:22:20.589
- Almost every major prophetic passage in the bible,
- 00:22:20.589 --> 00:22:23.625
- If you stay within the context
- 00:22:23.625 --> 00:22:25.193
- Like within two or three verses,
- 00:22:25.193 --> 00:22:27.129
- You will find a practical application from that.
- 00:22:27.129 --> 00:22:31.166
- And let me just give you a couple of examples.
- 00:22:31.166 --> 00:22:33.368
- You know, one of the great passages pastors like to preach
- 00:22:33.368 --> 00:22:35.771
- On is in hebrews about going to church where it says,
- 00:22:35.771 --> 00:22:38.673
- "and forsake not the assembling of yourselves together
- 00:22:38.673 --> 00:22:40.876
- As the manner of some is," but then it says,
- 00:22:40.876 --> 00:22:45.213
- "as the day is approaching,
- 00:22:45.213 --> 00:22:48.049
- Become more committed to your church."
- 00:22:48.049 --> 00:22:50.552
- So, here's this passage of scripture
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- That talks about the coming of the lord.
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- And in the midst of it, it says, "one of the things
- 00:22:55.724 --> 00:22:57.392
- That you need to be aware of
- 00:22:57.392 --> 00:22:58.994
- When you become aware of the coming of the lord
- 00:22:58.994 --> 00:23:00.796
- Is the church is more important than you thought."
- 00:23:00.796 --> 00:23:04.065
- Here's another illustration.
- 00:23:04.065 --> 00:23:05.500
- This is a great passage.
- 00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:06.868
- This is one of my favorite passages, john 14: 1-6.
- 00:23:06.868 --> 00:23:09.938
- Jesus is communicating to his disciples that he's about to go
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- Back to heaven and they don't know what this is all about.
- 00:23:12.641 --> 00:23:15.610
- And jesus said, "let not your hearts be troubled;
- 00:23:15.610 --> 00:23:18.780
- You believe in god, believe also in me.
- 00:23:18.780 --> 00:23:21.416
- In my father's house there are many mansions;
- 00:23:21.416 --> 00:23:23.518
- If it were not so, i would have told you,
- 00:23:23.518 --> 00:23:25.787
- I go to prepare a place for you.
- 00:23:25.787 --> 00:23:27.456
- And if i go to prepare a place for you,
- 00:23:27.456 --> 00:23:29.024
- I will come again and bring you to heaven with me
- 00:23:29.024 --> 00:23:32.661
- So that where i am, there you might be also."
- 00:23:32.661 --> 00:23:35.263
- So, what did jesus say?
- 00:23:35.263 --> 00:23:37.165
- He said, "i know you're worried about where i'm going,
- 00:23:37.165 --> 00:23:40.135
- But don't be troubled."
- 00:23:40.135 --> 00:23:42.003
- If you know what you know, you don't have to be troubled.
- 00:23:42.003 --> 00:23:45.507
- You can live in this world and study prophecy,
- 00:23:45.507 --> 00:23:48.877
- And wherever you go in the prophetic passage,
- 00:23:48.877 --> 00:23:51.780
- You will find what god wants you to know about that.
- 00:23:51.780 --> 00:23:54.850
- For instance, in the 1 john passage it says,
- 00:23:54.850 --> 00:23:57.152
- "therefore, what manner of men should we be because of this?"
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- Sheila: wow.
- 00:24:00.722 --> 00:24:02.123
- I imagine so many people who think, "oh gosh,
- 00:24:02.123 --> 00:24:04.059
- What i would give to sit down with dr. jeremiah."
- 00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:07.195
- So, just let's imagine we allow that to happen.
- 00:24:07.195 --> 00:24:09.965
- If somebody was sitting down with you right now
- 00:24:09.965 --> 00:24:12.934
- In light of everything that we've discussed,
- 00:24:12.934 --> 00:24:16.338
- What would you say to them?
- 00:24:16.338 --> 00:24:17.973
- Dr. jeremiah: well i'd ask some questions.
- 00:24:17.973 --> 00:24:19.641
- I would ask them, "if the lord jesus christ should come tonight
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- And catch up all those who put their trust in him,
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- Would you be in that group?"
- 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:29.951
- In other words, "are you ready to see jesus christ
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- If he comes back?"
- 00:24:34.055 --> 00:24:35.690
- Because if you're not, this is a great time to do that,
- 00:24:35.690 --> 00:24:39.561
- To get ready, to receive him as your lord and savior.
- 00:24:39.561 --> 00:24:42.297
- The bible says that almighty god loved this world so much
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- That he sent his own son to this earth
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- Who went to the cross and paid the penalty for our sin,
- 00:24:48.203 --> 00:24:53.174
- The penalty we deserve.
- 00:24:53.174 --> 00:24:54.676
- The bible says, "the wages of sin is death."
- 00:24:54.676 --> 00:24:56.845
- Somebody had to die
- 00:24:56.845 --> 00:24:58.480
- And almighty god sent his son here.
- 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.049
- He was god living in a body, and as the son of god,
- 00:25:01.049 --> 00:25:05.654
- He went to the cross,
- 00:25:05.654 --> 00:25:06.988
- And because his life was infinite,
- 00:25:06.988 --> 00:25:09.124
- His death is infinite, and his death was equal
- 00:25:09.124 --> 00:25:12.093
- To the death of everyone
- 00:25:12.093 --> 00:25:13.728
- Who would ever be on this earth who would put
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- Their trust in him.
- 00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:16.565
- And what that means is one day in my life,
- 00:25:16.565 --> 00:25:19.768
- I came to god in prayer and i said,
- 00:25:19.768 --> 00:25:22.170
- "god, i know if jesus were to come today
- 00:25:22.170 --> 00:25:25.874
- I wouldn't be ready.
- 00:25:25.874 --> 00:25:27.275
- I want to receive jesus christ as my savior
- 00:25:27.275 --> 00:25:29.578
- And accept what he did on the cross
- 00:25:29.578 --> 00:25:31.546
- So that i can become a part of your forever family."
- 00:25:31.546 --> 00:25:34.916
- I became a christian that day and everything
- 00:25:34.916 --> 00:25:37.085
- In my life changed.
- 00:25:37.085 --> 00:25:38.653
- And i've watched and witnessed that happening
- 00:25:38.653 --> 00:25:40.789
- To thousands of people.
- 00:25:40.789 --> 00:25:42.857
- I get letters from all over the world from people who say,
- 00:25:42.857 --> 00:25:45.894
- "i now believe in jesus christ and i'm ready
- 00:25:45.894 --> 00:25:48.263
- If jesus comes today."
- 00:25:48.263 --> 00:25:50.031
- So, more than anything else, i'm praying that this series
- 00:25:50.031 --> 00:25:54.369
- Will open the eyes of people to the reality of who jesus is,
- 00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:58.673
- That he has a wonderful plan for our lives
- 00:25:58.673 --> 00:26:01.142
- That includes eternity with the father.
- 00:26:01.142 --> 00:26:04.546
- I've been so impressed recently of the many verses in the bible
- 00:26:04.546 --> 00:26:08.116
- Where jesus says that he wants us to be with him over and over.
- 00:26:08.116 --> 00:26:14.255
- I never saw that before.
- 00:26:14.255 --> 00:26:15.890
- Almighty god wants us to be with him.
- 00:26:15.890 --> 00:26:18.526
- I read somebody said, "if god had a refrigerator,
- 00:26:18.526 --> 00:26:21.062
- Your picture would be on it," you know.
- 00:26:21.062 --> 00:26:23.064
- And i believe that with all my heart.
- 00:26:23.064 --> 00:26:24.733
- God loves us, and god is for us.
- 00:26:24.733 --> 00:26:27.736
- And he wants more than anything else, sheila,
- 00:26:27.736 --> 00:26:29.804
- For us to be with him forever.
- 00:26:29.804 --> 00:26:32.073
- And he's laid out the plan so that we,
- 00:26:32.073 --> 00:26:34.509
- Nobody needs to be left out.
- 00:26:34.509 --> 00:26:36.244
- No matter what we've done or how far we may feel like we are away
- 00:26:36.244 --> 00:26:39.714
- From god, almighty god loves us so much
- 00:26:39.714 --> 00:26:42.851
- That he's made the way for us so that we can go to heaven
- 00:26:42.851 --> 00:26:46.588
- And spend eternity with him.
- 00:26:46.588 --> 00:26:48.690
- I hope that's the message that comes through.
- 00:26:48.690 --> 00:26:52.093
- Sheila: dr. jeremiah, everywhere i travel around the country
- 00:26:52.093 --> 00:26:54.562
- I hear people tell me how much your life,
- 00:26:54.562 --> 00:26:59.501
- The work that you have poured yourself into,
- 00:26:59.501 --> 00:27:01.136
- Has touched and changed their lives.
- 00:27:01.136 --> 00:27:03.238
- So, i just want to be one voice to say thank you.
- 00:27:03.238 --> 00:27:06.941
- Dr. jeremiah: you're welcome.
- 00:27:06.941 --> 00:27:08.343
- Sheila, it's--i am more convinced than ever before
- 00:27:08.343 --> 00:27:12.414
- Of the great joy that is mine.
- 00:27:12.414 --> 00:27:14.315
- I couldn't ask for anything that's more of a privilege
- 00:27:14.315 --> 00:27:17.519
- Than i have to be a voice for god in this world,
- 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.423
- And i hope i get to do it for a long time.
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- Is from the time you became a christian
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- And the time i became a christian,
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- The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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- Sheila: that's good news.
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- Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do is try to
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- Determine the time, but to be ready whatever time it is.
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- Where dr. jeremiah discusses the importance
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- Of studying prophecy, here on "turning point."
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- Dr. jeremiah: museums.
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- Within the walls of these institutions,
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- The signs of our history are preserved
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- Through collections of artistic, cultural,
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- And scientific importance.
- 00:30:09.624 --> 00:30:13.094
- Exhibits chronicle the people, places, and events
- 00:30:13.094 --> 00:30:16.798
- That have shaped our world.
- 00:30:16.798 --> 00:30:21.769
- There is coming a series of events so apocalyptic
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- It will put a period behind the world as we know it
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- And not one museum will be left standing
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- To memorialize its destruction.
- 00:30:32.614 --> 00:30:37.986
- But what if we could visit such a place?
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- A museum containing the signs of what is to come,
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- Exhibits and remnants of the end times.
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- What could we learn?
- 00:30:49.564 --> 00:30:51.399
- How would it change the way we live today?
- 00:30:51.399 --> 00:30:56.571
- Though in truth, a museum of this kind will never be built.
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- Through the lens of god's word,
- 00:31:00.608 --> 00:31:02.510
- Our imagination can catch a glimpse
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- Of not what has happened, but will happen.
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- Come with me on a tour of bible prophecy,
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- Signs that assure us god has a plan
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- For the future and for eternity.
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- Announcer: and now, join esteemed bible teacher, pastor,
- 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:28.436
- And author, dr. david jeremiah, as he discusses the importance
- 00:31:28.436 --> 00:31:32.273
- Of bible prophecy with your host, sheila walsh.
- 00:31:32.273 --> 00:31:35.610
- Sheila walsh: let me ask you first of all,
- 00:31:35.677 --> 00:31:37.278
- Where did your interest and your passion
- 00:31:37.278 --> 00:31:39.881
- To understand prophecy begin?
- 00:31:39.881 --> 00:31:41.582
- Dr. jeremiah: sheila, i grew up in a pastor's home
- 00:31:41.582 --> 00:31:43.651
- And my dad who loved the word of god.
- 00:31:43.651 --> 00:31:46.821
- Every year when i was growing up,
- 00:31:46.821 --> 00:31:48.690
- We would have what they called evangelistic campaigns
- 00:31:48.690 --> 00:31:51.859
- And sometimes they called them revivals,
- 00:31:51.859 --> 00:31:53.895
- But they would bring people in from the outside.
- 00:31:53.895 --> 00:31:56.931
- And almost every one of these people
- 00:31:56.931 --> 00:31:58.599
- Who came would have one night devoted to prophecy.
- 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:03.137
- I remember a man by the name of john carrera,
- 00:32:03.137 --> 00:32:06.174
- Who used to come to our church every year.
- 00:32:06.174 --> 00:32:07.675
- And every time he came on friday night,
- 00:32:07.675 --> 00:32:10.011
- It was prophecy night, and he would spellbind us
- 00:32:10.011 --> 00:32:13.481
- With what god had planned for us in the future.
- 00:32:13.481 --> 00:32:16.517
- Jack van impe was another one who came
- 00:32:16.517 --> 00:32:18.419
- And he would do the same thing.
- 00:32:18.419 --> 00:32:20.021
- And then of course, god allowed me
- 00:32:20.021 --> 00:32:21.856
- To go to dallas theological seminary,
- 00:32:21.856 --> 00:32:24.959
- Where i sat under the teaching of dwight pentecost
- 00:32:24.959 --> 00:32:27.996
- And john walvoord and the people who really have championed
- 00:32:27.996 --> 00:32:33.001
- That cause.
- 00:32:33.001 --> 00:32:34.802
- And i realized this is something i want to learn more about.
- 00:32:34.802 --> 00:32:39.607
- And one of the first books
- 00:32:39.607 --> 00:32:41.242
- I taught when i came to san diego was daniel.
- 00:32:41.242 --> 00:32:46.481
- And when i got done with daniel, i taught revelation.
- 00:32:46.481 --> 00:32:49.550
- Sheila: wow, that's quite an undertaking.
- 00:32:49.550 --> 00:32:51.252
- Dr. jeremiah: and they changed my life, both of those books,
- 00:32:51.252 --> 00:32:54.389
- Because they set the tone for what's happening
- 00:32:54.389 --> 00:32:57.191
- And what's going to happen.
- 00:32:57.191 --> 00:32:58.559
- Sheila: one of the things i love most about the way you teach
- 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.229
- Is that you can take the most complicated subject
- 00:33:01.229 --> 00:33:05.066
- And break it open in such a way that we all get it.
- 00:33:05.066 --> 00:33:09.070
- But i wonder with the study you've done,
- 00:33:09.070 --> 00:33:10.938
- How has it impacted your own personal life
- 00:33:10.938 --> 00:33:14.175
- And spiritual journey?
- 00:33:14.175 --> 00:33:15.543
- Dr. jeremiah: well the bible promises, believe it or not,
- 00:33:15.543 --> 00:33:18.246
- In fact, the book of revelation
- 00:33:18.246 --> 00:33:19.714
- Is the only book in the bible where we are told twice,
- 00:33:19.714 --> 00:33:23.317
- "blessed are those who read this book."
- 00:33:23.317 --> 00:33:26.621
- If you want to be blessed, you should read
- 00:33:26.621 --> 00:33:29.157
- And study the book of revelation
- 00:33:29.157 --> 00:33:30.625
- Because the bible promises that if you do,
- 00:33:30.625 --> 00:33:32.560
- You will be blessed, and i surely have.
- 00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:34.962
- I've learned so much about god's sovereignty
- 00:33:34.962 --> 00:33:40.535
- And his wonderful promise to us
- 00:33:40.535 --> 00:33:43.071
- That he's still in charge even though everything else
- 00:33:43.071 --> 00:33:45.540
- Looks like it's going south on us.
- 00:33:45.540 --> 00:33:48.576
- The wonderful truth about prophecy
- 00:33:48.576 --> 00:33:50.745
- Is that it guarantees the integrity
- 00:33:50.745 --> 00:33:53.114
- Of the rest of the bible.
- 00:33:53.114 --> 00:33:54.449
- For instance, in the old testament
- 00:33:54.449 --> 00:33:56.717
- There are over 300 prophecies about the first coming
- 00:33:56.717 --> 00:33:59.620
- Of christ, where he would be born,
- 00:33:59.620 --> 00:34:02.156
- What would happen to him as a child and all of this.
- 00:34:02.156 --> 00:34:05.626
- Now we have the perspective of history to go back,
- 00:34:05.626 --> 00:34:07.962
- Look at the prophecies and see
- 00:34:07.962 --> 00:34:09.964
- Where they were fulfilled in exactness
- 00:34:09.964 --> 00:34:12.834
- Without any mistake whatsoever.
- 00:34:12.834 --> 00:34:15.703
- Now we have more than twice that many prophecies
- 00:34:15.703 --> 00:34:18.606
- About the second coming of christ.
- 00:34:18.606 --> 00:34:20.708
- So, here's the deal.
- 00:34:20.708 --> 00:34:22.143
- If he was accurate in the first coming,
- 00:34:22.143 --> 00:34:24.479
- Will he not be so accurate in the second coming?
- 00:34:24.479 --> 00:34:27.215
- So, when you study prophecy, you get god's blueprint
- 00:34:27.215 --> 00:34:31.953
- Of what's going to happen in the future
- 00:34:31.953 --> 00:34:33.855
- And you begin to see things like the reemergence
- 00:34:33.855 --> 00:34:37.024
- Of israel as a nation and the collection of nations
- 00:34:37.024 --> 00:34:40.361
- In europe, and all of these things.
- 00:34:40.361 --> 00:34:42.230
- And it's like you have a heads up on what's going on.
- 00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:45.299
- The news is catching up with prophecy,
- 00:34:45.299 --> 00:34:47.802
- And that's what happens when you study that.
- 00:34:47.802 --> 00:34:50.004
- Sheila: does the bible say that we should study prophecy?
- 00:34:50.004 --> 00:34:53.207
- Dr. jeremiah: yeah, the bible--actually,
- 00:34:53.207 --> 00:34:55.076
- As i mentioned in the book of revelation,
- 00:34:55.076 --> 00:34:56.544
- It tells us to read it and to study it.
- 00:34:56.544 --> 00:34:58.112
- And the bible isn't something we can cut and slice and say,
- 00:34:58.112 --> 00:35:01.048
- "oh, i like the narrative sections,"
- 00:35:01.048 --> 00:35:03.351
- Or, "i like the old testament."
- 00:35:03.351 --> 00:35:05.286
- The bible is a whole.
- 00:35:05.286 --> 00:35:06.954
- And when you see it that way, in the book of revelation,
- 00:35:06.954 --> 00:35:09.624
- You have the fulfillment of everything that's wrong
- 00:35:09.624 --> 00:35:11.893
- In the book of genesis.
- 00:35:11.893 --> 00:35:13.494
- You know, and i could go through,
- 00:35:13.494 --> 00:35:15.062
- There's like 30 or 40 of these things.
- 00:35:15.062 --> 00:35:17.698
- The book of revelation is the ultimate fulfillment
- 00:35:17.698 --> 00:35:20.234
- Of god's plan for this world and for his people.
- 00:35:20.234 --> 00:35:23.738
- And once you get--once you kind of get the end in revelation
- 00:35:23.738 --> 00:35:26.741
- And you've got the beginning in genesis,
- 00:35:26.741 --> 00:35:28.609
- The rest of it just starts to make sense.
- 00:35:28.609 --> 00:35:31.312
- Sheila: in all the years you've had
- 00:35:31.312 --> 00:35:33.014
- As a faithful, devoted pastor,
- 00:35:33.014 --> 00:35:35.416
- Is there one question on prophecy
- 00:35:35.416 --> 00:35:37.818
- That comes up more than any other,
- 00:35:37.818 --> 00:35:39.720
- Or maybe one misconception about prophecy?
- 00:35:39.720 --> 00:35:42.490
- Dr. jeremiah: i think maybe one of the misunderstandings
- 00:35:42.490 --> 00:35:46.427
- That i deal with more than anything else
- 00:35:46.427 --> 00:35:49.530
- Is the difference between the rapture
- 00:35:49.530 --> 00:35:52.033
- And the second coming, because the two events
- 00:35:52.033 --> 00:35:54.802
- Are totally different and they have totally different contexts.
- 00:35:54.802 --> 00:35:58.839
- When jesus comes back in the rapture,
- 00:35:58.839 --> 00:36:00.741
- It's to take every christian
- 00:36:00.741 --> 00:36:02.777
- Who's still on this earth to heaven and resurrect
- 00:36:02.777 --> 00:36:04.946
- All those who have died ahead of time.
- 00:36:04.946 --> 00:36:07.148
- And we all go to heaven.
- 00:36:07.148 --> 00:36:08.783
- And then seven years tribulation is on this earth.
- 00:36:08.783 --> 00:36:12.253
- I happen to be one of those people
- 00:36:12.253 --> 00:36:13.988
- Who does not believe the church will be in the tribulation.
- 00:36:13.988 --> 00:36:16.591
- For the bible says, "there is therefore now no condemnation
- 00:36:16.591 --> 00:36:20.528
- To those who were in christ jesus."
- 00:36:20.528 --> 00:36:22.196
- I don't know how that promise could ever be fulfilled
- 00:36:22.196 --> 00:36:24.465
- If we're gonna be in condemnation for seven years.
- 00:36:24.465 --> 00:36:27.235
- At the end of the seven years, the bible says jesus comes back
- 00:36:27.235 --> 00:36:30.838
- And those of us who went up come back.
- 00:36:30.838 --> 00:36:34.108
- In the book of revelation,
- 00:36:34.108 --> 00:36:35.509
- The door to heaven is opened twice.
- 00:36:35.509 --> 00:36:37.778
- Once we go up and once we come back.
- 00:36:37.778 --> 00:36:40.281
- And so, if we understand that the rapture
- 00:36:40.281 --> 00:36:42.450
- Is when he comes for us
- 00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:44.385
- And the second advent is when we come back with him
- 00:36:44.385 --> 00:36:46.887
- To settle the events on this earth,
- 00:36:46.887 --> 00:36:49.323
- Then we can keep those two things straight.
- 00:36:49.323 --> 00:36:51.259
- Sheila: that makes it pretty clear.
- 00:36:51.259 --> 00:36:53.094
- Often you'll hear people predicting
- 00:36:53.094 --> 00:36:55.830
- This is going to be the day,
- 00:36:55.830 --> 00:36:57.398
- And all sorts of people try and get their affairs in order,
- 00:36:57.398 --> 00:36:59.467
- Or they run their credit cards up because they think,
- 00:36:59.467 --> 00:37:01.235
- "i'm going to be out of here."
- 00:37:01.235 --> 00:37:02.570
- Have you ever been tempted to name a day, and if not, why not?
- 00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:06.307
- Dr. jeremiah: i suppose i've been tempted along the way
- 00:37:06.307 --> 00:37:07.942
- To run a credit card up, but never for that reason.
- 00:37:07.942 --> 00:37:10.611
- You know, i just, you know, here's the thing.
- 00:37:10.611 --> 00:37:13.381
- If there's any question about which there is an absolute
- 00:37:13.381 --> 00:37:16.083
- Definite answer, you just ask it.
- 00:37:16.083 --> 00:37:18.552
- Because the bible says, "the lord jesus said,
- 00:37:18.552 --> 00:37:20.955
- 'no one knows the time of our lord's return
- 00:37:20.955 --> 00:37:23.891
- Except the father.'"
- 00:37:23.891 --> 00:37:25.359
- And when jesus was on the earth, he did not know.
- 00:37:25.359 --> 00:37:28.296
- He was the son of god.
- 00:37:28.296 --> 00:37:29.630
- The angels don't know.
- 00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:31.065
- The bible does not tell us when he's going to come back.
- 00:37:31.065 --> 00:37:34.869
- The bible does give us some indications
- 00:37:34.869 --> 00:37:39.073
- Of when we're getting close.
- 00:37:39.073 --> 00:37:41.542
- And one of the verses i love is this one that says,
- 00:37:41.542 --> 00:37:44.478
- "for now is your redemption nearer than when you believed."
- 00:37:44.478 --> 00:37:49.684
- What we do know for sure is from the time you became a christian
- 00:37:49.684 --> 00:37:53.254
- And the time i became a christian,
- 00:37:53.254 --> 00:37:55.222
- The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
- 00:37:55.222 --> 00:37:57.692
- Sheila: that's good news.
- 00:37:57.692 --> 00:37:59.026
- Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do
- 00:37:59.026 --> 00:38:00.695
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- 00:38:00.695 --> 00:38:04.131
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- Sheila: i want to give you a list.
- 00:39:33.587 --> 00:39:35.089
- I have formed a list of different prophetic terms
- 00:39:35.089 --> 00:39:37.191
- That i've been questioned about
- 00:39:37.191 --> 00:39:38.993
- And i'm sure people watching this want to know.
- 00:39:38.993 --> 00:39:41.295
- So, i'm just going to throw these at you
- 00:39:41.295 --> 00:39:42.797
- And see what you have to say.
- 00:39:42.797 --> 00:39:44.131
- You already touched on this a little bit, the rapture.
- 00:39:44.131 --> 00:39:47.735
- Why do some people believe that there's not going to be
- 00:39:47.735 --> 00:39:49.570
- A rapture,
- 00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:50.905
- That there's just--that christ is just going
- 00:39:50.905 --> 00:39:52.239
- To come back again?
- 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.574
- Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is in the book of thessalonians
- 00:39:53.574 --> 00:39:55.576
- And in 1 corinthians 15,
- 00:39:55.576 --> 00:39:57.378
- And you cannot read those passages
- 00:39:57.378 --> 00:39:58.813
- With any kind of sense of, "is this the truth?"
- 00:39:58.813 --> 00:40:01.482
- Without coming away with this.
- 00:40:01.482 --> 00:40:03.050
- It's in the bible.
- 00:40:03.050 --> 00:40:04.385
- It is absolutely clear.
- 00:40:04.385 --> 00:40:05.786
- Paul said it was a new revelation
- 00:40:05.786 --> 00:40:07.288
- That was not given to us in the old testament.
- 00:40:07.288 --> 00:40:09.356
- It's one of those mysteries that god has unfolded for us.
- 00:40:09.356 --> 00:40:13.127
- Sheila: wow.
- 00:40:13.127 --> 00:40:14.462
- Okay, let's go for the tribulation.
- 00:40:14.462 --> 00:40:16.697
- That's going to be a period of how long
- 00:40:16.697 --> 00:40:19.233
- And what's going to happen during the tribulation?
- 00:40:19.233 --> 00:40:21.202
- Dr. jeremiah: well, the tribulation is seven years
- 00:40:21.202 --> 00:40:22.937
- Divided into two sections.
- 00:40:22.937 --> 00:40:25.873
- The first is kind of what the bible refers to
- 00:40:25.873 --> 00:40:27.908
- As the beginning of sorrows.
- 00:40:27.908 --> 00:40:29.410
- It's kind of the heating up of the cauldron of pressure.
- 00:40:29.410 --> 00:40:32.913
- And what happens in the tribulation is at the beginning
- 00:40:32.913 --> 00:40:35.683
- Of the tribulation, the antichrist,
- 00:40:35.683 --> 00:40:38.819
- Who's the incarnation of satan,
- 00:40:38.819 --> 00:40:41.121
- Makes a covenant with israel for seven years
- 00:40:41.121 --> 00:40:43.858
- That they will be able to worship in their temple
- 00:40:43.858 --> 00:40:45.793
- And all of that.
- 00:40:45.793 --> 00:40:47.127
- And at the end of three and a half years,
- 00:40:47.127 --> 00:40:48.829
- He breaks that covenant.
- 00:40:48.829 --> 00:40:50.397
- And when that happens, all hell breaks loose on this earth.
- 00:40:50.397 --> 00:40:54.034
- And all i can say is when i read that, i'm so grateful
- 00:40:54.034 --> 00:40:58.239
- That i'm not going to be here.
- 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.074
- It will be worse than anything you can imagine.
- 00:41:00.074 --> 00:41:02.243
- The stories of what happens during that time
- 00:41:02.243 --> 00:41:04.545
- And the cruelty,
- 00:41:04.545 --> 00:41:05.880
- The absolute--you see what happens
- 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.449
- In some of the regimes that are in our world today
- 00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:11.118
- Where there's no regard for human life.
- 00:41:11.118 --> 00:41:14.622
- They are like child's play to what happens
- 00:41:14.622 --> 00:41:17.024
- During that period of time.
- 00:41:17.024 --> 00:41:18.926
- And it's sometimes referred to as the time of jacob's trouble,
- 00:41:18.926 --> 00:41:23.197
- The time of israel's trouble.
- 00:41:23.197 --> 00:41:25.165
- Sheial: okay, what about the antichrist?
- 00:41:25.165 --> 00:41:27.201
- What do we know about the antichrist?
- 00:41:27.201 --> 00:41:29.537
- Dr. jeremiah: well one thing for sure is that we don't know
- 00:41:29.537 --> 00:41:31.138
- Who he is, even though a lot of christians play
- 00:41:31.138 --> 00:41:33.774
- Pin the tail on the antichrist, you know.
- 00:41:33.774 --> 00:41:36.243
- And they try to figure out who he is.
- 00:41:36.243 --> 00:41:37.578
- We do not know.
- 00:41:37.578 --> 00:41:38.913
- Anybody that says they know, they can't know.
- 00:41:38.913 --> 00:41:41.916
- But we know a lot about him.
- 00:41:41.916 --> 00:41:43.951
- He is the incarnation of satan.
- 00:41:43.951 --> 00:41:46.253
- He is a man who has the oratorical ability
- 00:41:46.253 --> 00:41:49.056
- Of adolf hitler,
- 00:41:49.056 --> 00:41:50.724
- And--but all of the cruelty that goes along with it.
- 00:41:50.724 --> 00:41:53.327
- He's the great deceiver.
- 00:41:53.327 --> 00:41:55.162
- He mimics everything that jesus does.
- 00:41:55.162 --> 00:41:57.331
- Anti doesn't mean just against, but it means instead of.
- 00:41:57.331 --> 00:42:00.634
- So, he will present himself instead of christ.
- 00:42:00.634 --> 00:42:03.537
- His whole regime is one of counterfeiting
- 00:42:03.537 --> 00:42:07.775
- Everything that christ does.
- 00:42:07.775 --> 00:42:09.710
- If you can go through the career of the antichrist,
- 00:42:09.710 --> 00:42:12.913
- He doesn't have an original thought.
- 00:42:12.913 --> 00:42:15.082
- All he does is try to counterfeit what the lord does.
- 00:42:15.082 --> 00:42:18.352
- Sheila: okay, the mark of the beast.
- 00:42:18.352 --> 00:42:20.854
- What is that?
- 00:42:20.854 --> 00:42:22.189
- Dr. jeremiah: well in the book of revelation, we're told that
- 00:42:22.189 --> 00:42:24.191
- During the tribulation period you have to take
- 00:42:24.191 --> 00:42:27.227
- The mark of the beast in order to be able to survive.
- 00:42:27.227 --> 00:42:29.997
- This is the economic control program of the antichrist.
- 00:42:29.997 --> 00:42:34.568
- In other words, the mark of the beast is 666.
- 00:42:34.568 --> 00:42:37.972
- And those who, if you won't bow down to the beast,
- 00:42:37.972 --> 00:42:41.642
- If you won't bow down to the antichrist
- 00:42:41.642 --> 00:42:43.677
- And give him your worship and take the mark,
- 00:42:43.677 --> 00:42:47.715
- The bible says you will not be able to buy or sell.
- 00:42:47.715 --> 00:42:50.718
- People who don't take the mark will literally
- 00:42:50.718 --> 00:42:52.853
- Be starved out of existence.
- 00:42:52.853 --> 00:42:54.722
- They won't be able to buy groceries,
- 00:42:54.722 --> 00:42:56.323
- They won't be able to do business.
- 00:42:56.323 --> 00:42:58.125
- And the mark of the beast
- 00:42:58.125 --> 00:42:59.627
- Is the way the antichrist identifies his followers.
- 00:42:59.627 --> 00:43:06.367
- Sheila: i've heard believers concerned and looking out
- 00:43:06.367 --> 00:43:08.869
- For the mark of the beast, but clearly
- 00:43:08.869 --> 00:43:11.305
- If it's in that time, then we're no longer here.
- 00:43:11.305 --> 00:43:13.440
- Dr. jeremiah: that's right.
- 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:14.775
- No, we won't be here.
- 00:43:14.775 --> 00:43:16.110
- If it--the mark of the beast does not affect believers
- 00:43:16.110 --> 00:43:18.245
- Because again, in my opinion, we won't be here.
- 00:43:18.245 --> 00:43:23.150
- Sheila: scripture talks about a one world government.
- 00:43:23.150 --> 00:43:26.487
- What can you tell us about that?
- 00:43:26.487 --> 00:43:28.455
- Dr. jeremiah: well globalism has been a big deal,
- 00:43:28.455 --> 00:43:30.190
- Especially of late.
- 00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:31.892
- In the end, there will be an attempt to unite the whole world
- 00:43:31.892 --> 00:43:35.562
- So that this ruler will have--he'll have control
- 00:43:35.562 --> 00:43:40.968
- Of it all.
- 00:43:40.968 --> 00:43:42.636
- I'm gonna tell you what i know, sheila, god is not a globalist,
- 00:43:42.636 --> 00:43:46.407
- He's a nationalist.
- 00:43:46.407 --> 00:43:47.941
- The bible says he's made nations.
- 00:43:47.941 --> 00:43:50.244
- According to the book of acts, the nations were created so that
- 00:43:50.244 --> 00:43:54.181
- We would trust god, so that we wouldn't get caught up in the...
- 00:43:54.181 --> 00:43:57.618
- And the globalism issue goes all the way back
- 00:43:57.618 --> 00:44:00.587
- To the tower of babel
- 00:44:00.587 --> 00:44:02.356
- When they had a language that was all the same
- 00:44:02.356 --> 00:44:04.892
- And because they defied god, the language was confused.
- 00:44:04.892 --> 00:44:08.495
- And ever since they've been trying to put
- 00:44:08.495 --> 00:44:10.230
- This back together.
- 00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:11.665
- And ultimately in the end, when the church is gone,
- 00:44:11.665 --> 00:44:15.002
- The world will be kind of under one leader
- 00:44:15.002 --> 00:44:18.372
- And that will be globalism.
- 00:44:18.372 --> 00:44:20.040
- But it's certainly not anything we want to promote
- 00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:22.309
- In this day and age.
- 00:44:22.309 --> 00:44:23.644
- Sheila: no.
- 00:44:23.644 --> 00:44:24.978
- What about the battle of armageddon?
- 00:44:24.978 --> 00:44:27.915
- Where in the line of things--where does
- 00:44:27.915 --> 00:44:29.450
- That take place?
- 00:44:29.450 --> 00:44:30.851
- Dr. jeremiah: it's clear at the end of the tribulation.
- 00:44:30.851 --> 00:44:32.619
- It's kind of the final scene in the tribulation.
- 00:44:32.619 --> 00:44:35.289
- The forces of evil and the forces of good
- 00:44:35.289 --> 00:44:38.258
- Will have one final encounter and the lord jesus christ
- 00:44:38.258 --> 00:44:42.062
- Will be victorious.
- 00:44:42.062 --> 00:44:43.764
- And, you know, all of the details of how the nations come
- 00:44:43.764 --> 00:44:47.267
- Together and--first of all, they come after israel
- 00:44:47.267 --> 00:44:50.237
- And then all of a sudden the lord jesus comes back,
- 00:44:50.237 --> 00:44:52.806
- And then all of them turn and come after the lord.
- 00:44:52.806 --> 00:44:55.542
- And the bible says he defeats them with the word of his mouth.
- 00:44:55.542 --> 00:45:00.781
- You know, he goes, i tell people, he goes...and it's over.
- 00:45:00.781 --> 00:45:04.451
- And because of his power.
- 00:45:04.451 --> 00:45:06.520
- And the bible says we come back with him as believers.
- 00:45:06.520 --> 00:45:09.056
- And some people say, "well, we're dressed in white.
- 00:45:09.056 --> 00:45:11.291
- Those are not robes of warfare."
- 00:45:11.291 --> 00:45:13.127
- That's true because we don't do anything.
- 00:45:13.127 --> 00:45:14.795
- We're just spectators.
- 00:45:14.795 --> 00:45:16.330
- We come back with the lord jesus.
- 00:45:16.330 --> 00:45:18.031
- We watch his victory over all of the forces against him.
- 00:45:18.031 --> 00:45:21.235
- And i think we cheer.
- 00:45:21.235 --> 00:45:23.303
- Sheila: i'll be cheering.
- 00:45:23.303 --> 00:45:24.671
- Dr. jeremiah: we don't do anything.
- 00:45:24.671 --> 00:45:26.006
- He doesn't need us.
- 00:45:26.006 --> 00:45:27.741
- Sheila: the millennium, we've talked a lot
- 00:45:27.741 --> 00:45:30.310
- When we turned into a new millennium,
- 00:45:30.310 --> 00:45:31.812
- That was a big deal.
- 00:45:31.812 --> 00:45:33.147
- But what is the period of the millennium in biblical prophecy?
- 00:45:33.147 --> 00:45:35.616
- Dr. jeremiah: well actually the word "mille" means a thousand.
- 00:45:35.616 --> 00:45:38.485
- So, the millennium is a thousand years.
- 00:45:38.485 --> 00:45:40.687
- And in the book of revelation, that is actually
- 00:45:40.687 --> 00:45:43.557
- Mentioned four or five times in one chapter.
- 00:45:43.557 --> 00:45:46.160
- The millennium is a thousand year reign of peace,
- 00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:50.364
- And the lord jesus christ will be king.
- 00:45:50.364 --> 00:45:53.467
- Surprising to a lot of folks,
- 00:45:53.467 --> 00:45:55.335
- David will be his vice president,
- 00:45:55.335 --> 00:45:57.070
- So to speak, and will sit on the throne with him,
- 00:45:57.070 --> 00:45:59.573
- And they will rule the world in righteousness and in godliness.
- 00:45:59.573 --> 00:46:03.744
- And there will still be sin in the millennium,
- 00:46:03.744 --> 00:46:05.946
- But it will be short-lived.
- 00:46:05.946 --> 00:46:07.447
- It will be dealt with immediately.
- 00:46:07.447 --> 00:46:09.383
- And when you read about the millennium
- 00:46:09.383 --> 00:46:11.952
- And how lifetime will be extended
- 00:46:11.952 --> 00:46:14.588
- And the lion will lay down with the lamb
- 00:46:14.588 --> 00:46:17.424
- And all of the hostilities that have been a part of our world
- 00:46:17.424 --> 00:46:20.794
- Will be--they'll be gone.
- 00:46:20.794 --> 00:46:23.330
- The millennium is an incredible thing.
- 00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:25.032
- And you know what?
- 00:46:25.032 --> 00:46:26.533
- Dwight pentecost, one of my teachers told me
- 00:46:26.533 --> 00:46:28.669
- There is more information in the bible on the millennium
- 00:46:28.669 --> 00:46:31.939
- Than any other period in all of scripture.
- 00:46:31.939 --> 00:46:35.042
- And it's all tucked away in the old testament prophets
- 00:46:35.042 --> 00:46:38.312
- Where you wouldn't necessarily go for it,
- 00:46:38.312 --> 00:46:40.781
- But then you start to think about it.
- 00:46:40.781 --> 00:46:42.549
- Every time you turn around, there's something in the bible
- 00:46:42.549 --> 00:46:44.885
- About that period of time.
- 00:46:44.885 --> 00:46:46.920
- Sheila: the second coming of christ,
- 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:48.255
- You said that sometimes people get confused about the rapture
- 00:46:48.255 --> 00:46:50.657
- And the second coming being the same.
- 00:46:50.657 --> 00:46:52.593
- Tell us what we know about the second coming of christ.
- 00:46:52.593 --> 00:46:55.662
- Dr. jeremiah: well it's the climax
- 00:46:55.662 --> 00:46:57.464
- Of the battle of armageddon
- 00:46:57.464 --> 00:46:58.999
- When the lord jesus comes back from heaven.
- 00:46:58.999 --> 00:47:02.469
- The bible presents him as riding upon a white horse,
- 00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:05.772
- Leading the holy angels and the saints,
- 00:47:05.772 --> 00:47:09.042
- And they come and they do war against the evil
- 00:47:09.042 --> 00:47:13.046
- That has been accumulated on this earth.
- 00:47:13.046 --> 00:47:16.783
- Sheila: so, this leads to the battle of armageddon.
- 00:47:16.783 --> 00:47:18.452
- Dr. jeremiah: it is the end of the battle of armageddon.
- 00:47:18.452 --> 00:47:20.654
- All of this leads up to the return of christ.
- 00:47:20.654 --> 00:47:23.023
- And when he comes back,
- 00:47:23.023 --> 00:47:24.358
- He puts an end to it it pretty quickly.
- 00:47:24.358 --> 00:47:25.959
- Here comes the lord jesus from heaven
- 00:47:25.959 --> 00:47:28.195
- And people think they can fight against him.
- 00:47:28.195 --> 00:47:30.697
- And it's totally one-sided.
- 00:47:30.697 --> 00:47:35.435
- Sheila: okay, a new heaven and a new earth.
- 00:47:35.435 --> 00:47:37.604
- A lot of people want to know, "okay, if i live in fargo now,
- 00:47:37.604 --> 00:47:40.607
- Will i be living in fargo in the new heaven and the new earth?"
- 00:47:40.607 --> 00:47:43.911
- Dr. jeremiah: well the bible tells us that the earth
- 00:47:43.911 --> 00:47:45.879
- As we know it now is going to be cleansed.
- 00:47:45.879 --> 00:47:48.148
- In the new testament, we're told it's going to burn up.
- 00:47:48.148 --> 00:47:50.951
- The earth as we know it is not going to be destroyed,
- 00:47:50.951 --> 00:47:53.553
- But it is going to be purged and cleansed.
- 00:47:53.553 --> 00:47:56.123
- Sheila: some of the things, as you've said,
- 00:47:56.123 --> 00:47:58.492
- We're not certain about, but one thing is very specific,
- 00:47:58.492 --> 00:48:01.995
- And that's this number, 144,000.
- 00:48:01.995 --> 00:48:06.066
- Tell us about that number.
- 00:48:06.066 --> 00:48:07.467
- Dr. jeremiah: well that represents--there's 12 tribes
- 00:48:07.467 --> 00:48:09.803
- Of israel.
- 00:48:09.803 --> 00:48:11.338
- So, what is 12 times 12?
- 00:48:11.338 --> 00:48:13.740
- Sheila: 144.
- 00:48:13.740 --> 00:48:15.075
- Dr. jeremiah: there you go.
- 00:48:15.075 --> 00:48:16.410
- And so, these will be jewish evangelists.
- 00:48:16.410 --> 00:48:19.780
- I would tell people, you know, i have so many friends
- 00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:22.349
- Who are jewish people and i love these people
- 00:48:22.349 --> 00:48:24.217
- And their aggressiveness and how they go after
- 00:48:24.217 --> 00:48:27.621
- Whatever they think they should go after.
- 00:48:27.621 --> 00:48:30.157
- Can you imagine turning 144,000 jewish evangelists
- 00:48:30.157 --> 00:48:34.161
- Loose on this earth?
- 00:48:34.161 --> 00:48:35.696
- And the bible tells us that it will be
- 00:48:35.696 --> 00:48:39.366
- The greatest revival ever in history.
- 00:48:39.366 --> 00:48:42.135
- People will come to christ right and left,
- 00:48:42.135 --> 00:48:44.071
- And then added to that, of course,
- 00:48:44.071 --> 00:48:46.106
- Are the two witnesses.
- 00:48:46.106 --> 00:48:47.708
- Sheila: who are the two witnesses?
- 00:48:47.708 --> 00:48:49.209
- Dr. jeremiah: well--
- 00:48:49.209 --> 00:48:50.544
- Sheila: what do we know?
- 00:48:50.544 --> 00:48:51.878
- Dr. jeremiah: i believe it's moses and elijah.
- 00:48:51.878 --> 00:48:53.213
- Moses was the great former of the law.
- 00:48:53.213 --> 00:48:57.918
- Elijah was the great reformer of the law.
- 00:48:57.918 --> 00:49:01.154
- They represent the old testament,
- 00:49:01.154 --> 00:49:03.190
- And i believe that they will be
- 00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:05.826
- The two witnesses on this earth,
- 00:49:05.826 --> 00:49:07.961
- Two most beloved personages by the jewish people.
- 00:49:07.961 --> 00:49:11.832
- And then of course some very miraculous things
- 00:49:11.832 --> 00:49:13.633
- Are going to happen to these guys
- 00:49:13.633 --> 00:49:15.102
- That will literally grab hold of the hearts of people
- 00:49:15.102 --> 00:49:19.239
- On this earth.
- 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:20.907
- Sheila: can you see things already happening around us
- 00:49:20.907 --> 00:49:24.478
- That are indications of the time we're living in?
- 00:49:24.478 --> 00:49:27.247
- Dr. jeremiah: the greatest sign of the fact that we're moving
- 00:49:27.247 --> 00:49:30.150
- Into this period of history is the return of israel
- 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:33.787
- Because none of the prophecies of the book of revelation,
- 00:49:33.787 --> 00:49:36.423
- Or very few of them,
- 00:49:36.423 --> 00:49:37.758
- Could happen if israel's not in the land.
- 00:49:37.758 --> 00:49:40.293
- Sheila: is there any prophetic passage that has been
- 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:42.229
- Particularly meaningful to you as a pastor?
- 00:49:42.229 --> 00:49:46.199
- Dr. jeremiah: one of the things that's interesting
- 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:47.534
- About prophecy is while people say it's not relevant,
- 00:49:47.534 --> 00:49:52.039
- Almost every major prophetic passage in the bible,
- 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.075
- If you stay within the context
- 00:49:55.075 --> 00:49:56.643
- Like within two or three verses,
- 00:49:56.643 --> 00:49:58.578
- You will find a practical application from that.
- 00:49:58.578 --> 00:50:02.616
- And let me just give you a couple of examples.
- 00:50:02.616 --> 00:50:04.818
- You know, one of the great passages pastors like to preach
- 00:50:04.818 --> 00:50:07.220
- On is in hebrews about going to church where it says,
- 00:50:07.220 --> 00:50:10.123
- "and forsake not the assembling of yourselves together
- 00:50:10.123 --> 00:50:12.325
- As the manner of some is," but then it says,
- 00:50:12.325 --> 00:50:16.663
- "as the day is approaching,
- 00:50:16.663 --> 00:50:19.499
- Become more committed to your church."
- 00:50:19.499 --> 00:50:22.002
- So, here's this passage of scripture
- 00:50:22.002 --> 00:50:24.004
- That talks about the coming of the lord.
- 00:50:24.004 --> 00:50:27.174
- And in the midst of it, it says, "one of the things
- 00:50:27.174 --> 00:50:28.842
- That you need to be aware of
- 00:50:28.842 --> 00:50:30.444
- When you become aware of the coming of the lord
- 00:50:30.444 --> 00:50:32.245
- Is the church is more important than you thought."
- 00:50:32.245 --> 00:50:35.515
- Here's another illustration.
- 00:50:35.515 --> 00:50:36.950
- This is a great passage.
- 00:50:36.950 --> 00:50:38.318
- This is one of my favorite passages, john 14: 1-6.
- 00:50:38.318 --> 00:50:41.388
- Jesus is communicating to his disciples that he's about to go
- 00:50:41.388 --> 00:50:44.091
- Back to heaven and they don't know what this is all about.
- 00:50:44.091 --> 00:50:47.060
- And jesus said, "let not your hearts be troubled;
- 00:50:47.060 --> 00:50:50.230
- You believe in god, believe also in me.
- 00:50:50.230 --> 00:50:52.866
- In my father's house there are many mansions;
- 00:50:52.866 --> 00:50:54.968
- If it were not so, i would have told you,
- 00:50:54.968 --> 00:50:57.237
- I go to prepare a place for you.
- 00:50:57.237 --> 00:50:58.905
- And if i go to prepare a place for you,
- 00:50:58.905 --> 00:51:00.474
- I will come again and bring you to heaven with me
- 00:51:00.474 --> 00:51:04.111
- So that where i am, there you might be also."
- 00:51:04.111 --> 00:51:06.713
- So, what did jesus say?
- 00:51:06.713 --> 00:51:08.615
- He said, "i know you're worried about where i'm going,
- 00:51:08.615 --> 00:51:11.585
- But don't be troubled."
- 00:51:11.585 --> 00:51:13.453
- If you know what you know, you don't have to be troubled.
- 00:51:13.453 --> 00:51:16.957
- You can live in this world and study prophecy,
- 00:51:16.957 --> 00:51:20.327
- And wherever you go in the prophetic passage,
- 00:51:20.327 --> 00:51:23.230
- You will find what god wants you to know about that.
- 00:51:23.230 --> 00:51:26.299
- For instance, in the 1 john passage it says,
- 00:51:26.299 --> 00:51:28.602
- "therefore, what manner of men should we be because of this?"
- 00:51:28.602 --> 00:51:32.172
- Sheila: wow.
- 00:51:32.172 --> 00:51:33.573
- I imagine so many people who think, "oh gosh,
- 00:51:33.573 --> 00:51:35.509
- What i would give to sit down with dr. jeremiah."
- 00:51:35.509 --> 00:51:38.645
- So, just let's imagine we allow that to happen.
- 00:51:38.645 --> 00:51:41.414
- If somebody was sitting down with you right now
- 00:51:41.414 --> 00:51:44.384
- In light of everything that we've discussed,
- 00:51:44.384 --> 00:51:47.787
- What would you say to them?
- 00:51:47.787 --> 00:51:49.422
- Dr. jeremiah: well i'd ask some questions.
- 00:51:49.422 --> 00:51:51.091
- I would ask them, "if the lord jesus christ should come tonight
- 00:51:51.091 --> 00:51:56.062
- And catch up all those who put their trust in him,
- 00:51:56.062 --> 00:51:58.999
- Would you be in that group?"
- 00:51:58.999 --> 00:52:01.401
- In other words, "are you ready to see jesus christ
- 00:52:01.401 --> 00:52:05.505
- If he comes back?"
- 00:52:05.505 --> 00:52:07.140
- Because if you're not, this is a great time to do that,
- 00:52:07.140 --> 00:52:11.011
- To get ready, to receive him as your lord and savior.
- 00:52:11.011 --> 00:52:13.747
- The bible says that almighty god loved this world so much
- 00:52:13.747 --> 00:52:17.184
- That he sent his own son to this earth
- 00:52:17.184 --> 00:52:19.653
- Who went to the cross and paid the penalty for our sin,
- 00:52:19.653 --> 00:52:24.624
- The penalty we deserve.
- 00:52:24.624 --> 00:52:26.126
- The bible says, "the wages of sin is death."
- 00:52:26.126 --> 00:52:28.295
- Somebody had to die
- 00:52:28.295 --> 00:52:29.930
- And almighty god sent his son here.
- 00:52:29.930 --> 00:52:32.499
- He was god living in a body, and as the son of god,
- 00:52:32.499 --> 00:52:37.103
- He went to the cross,
- 00:52:37.103 --> 00:52:38.438
- And because his life was infinite,
- 00:52:38.438 --> 00:52:40.574
- His death is infinite, and his death was equal
- 00:52:40.574 --> 00:52:43.543
- To the death of everyone
- 00:52:43.543 --> 00:52:45.178
- Who would ever be on this earth who would put
- 00:52:45.178 --> 00:52:46.580
- Their trust in him.
- 00:52:46.580 --> 00:52:48.014
- And what that means is one day in my life,
- 00:52:48.014 --> 00:52:51.218
- I came to god in prayer and i said,
- 00:52:51.218 --> 00:52:53.620
- "god, i know if jesus were to come today
- 00:52:53.620 --> 00:52:57.324
- I wouldn't be ready.
- 00:52:57.324 --> 00:52:58.725
- I want to receive jesus christ as my savior
- 00:52:58.725 --> 00:53:01.027
- And accept what he did on the cross
- 00:53:01.027 --> 00:53:02.996
- So that i can become a part of your forever family."
- 00:53:02.996 --> 00:53:06.366
- I became a christian that day and everything
- 00:53:06.366 --> 00:53:08.535
- In my life changed.
- 00:53:08.535 --> 00:53:10.103
- And i've watched and witnessed that happening
- 00:53:10.103 --> 00:53:12.239
- To thousands of people.
- 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.307
- I get letters from all over the world from people who say,
- 00:53:14.307 --> 00:53:17.344
- "i now believe in jesus christ and i'm ready
- 00:53:17.344 --> 00:53:19.713
- If jesus comes today."
- 00:53:19.713 --> 00:53:21.481
- So, more than anything else, i'm praying that this series
- 00:53:21.481 --> 00:53:25.819
- Will open the eyes of people to the reality of who jesus is,
- 00:53:25.819 --> 00:53:30.123
- That he has a wonderful plan for our lives
- 00:53:30.123 --> 00:53:32.592
- That includes eternity with the father.
- 00:53:32.592 --> 00:53:35.996
- I've been so impressed recently of the many verses in the bible
- 00:53:35.996 --> 00:53:39.566
- Where jesus says that he wants us to be with him over and over.
- 00:53:39.566 --> 00:53:45.705
- I never saw that before.
- 00:53:45.705 --> 00:53:47.340
- Almighty god wants us to be with him.
- 00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:49.976
- I read somebody said, "if god had a refrigerator,
- 00:53:49.976 --> 00:53:52.512
- Your picture would be on it," you know.
- 00:53:52.512 --> 00:53:54.514
- And i believe that with all my heart.
- 00:53:54.514 --> 00:53:56.182
- God loves us, and god is for us.
- 00:53:56.182 --> 00:53:59.185
- And he wants more than anything else, sheila,
- 00:53:59.185 --> 00:54:01.254
- For us to be with him forever.
- 00:54:01.254 --> 00:54:03.523
- And he's laid out the plan so that we,
- 00:54:03.523 --> 00:54:05.959
- Nobody needs to be left out.
- 00:54:05.959 --> 00:54:07.694
- No matter what we've done or how far we may feel like we are away
- 00:54:07.694 --> 00:54:11.164
- From god, almighty god loves us so much
- 00:54:11.164 --> 00:54:14.301
- That he's made the way for us so that we can go to heaven
- 00:54:14.301 --> 00:54:18.038
- And spend eternity with him.
- 00:54:18.038 --> 00:54:20.140
- I hope that's the message that comes through.
- 00:54:20.140 --> 00:54:23.543
- Sheila: dr. jeremiah, everywhere i travel around the country
- 00:54:23.543 --> 00:54:26.012
- I hear people tell me how much your life,
- 00:54:26.012 --> 00:54:30.950
- The work that you have poured yourself into,
- 00:54:30.950 --> 00:54:32.585
- Has touched and changed their lives.
- 00:54:32.585 --> 00:54:34.688
- So, i just want to be one voice to say thank you.
- 00:54:34.688 --> 00:54:38.391
- Dr. jeremiah: you're welcome.
- 00:54:38.391 --> 00:54:39.793
- Sheila, it's--i am more convinced than ever before
- 00:54:39.793 --> 00:54:43.863
- Of the great joy that is mine.
- 00:54:43.863 --> 00:54:45.765
- I couldn't ask for anything that's more of a privilege
- 00:54:45.765 --> 00:54:48.968
- Than i have to be a voice for god in this world,
- 00:54:48.968 --> 00:54:52.872
- And i hope i get to do it for a long time.
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- Male announcer: next time on "turning point."
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- Dr. jeremiah: "where i am, there you may be also."
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- The bible says you don't have to be filled with anxiety.
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- Let your heart be calm.
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- It's all under control.
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- Almighty god's still on the throne.
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- He's got his plan all laid out and he's coming back.
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- Announcer: thank you for being with us today.
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- Join dr. jeremiah next time for his message,
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- "the prophetic times," here on "turning point."
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