David Jeremiah - Signs Interview

May 4, 2025 | S25:E18

In this special interview with Sheila Walsh, Dr. Jeremiah discusses the importance of prophecy and prophetic end-time events.

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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Signs Interview | May 4, 2025
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  • Male announcer: the future isn't a mystery, it's a masterpiece.
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  • In "60 days of prophecies" by dr. jeremiah,
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  • You'll see how scripture connects the past,
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  • Present, and future.
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  • Dr. david jeremiah: museums.
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  • Within the walls of these institutions,
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  • The signs of our history are preserved
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  • Through collections of artistic, cultural,
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  • And scientific importance.
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  • Exhibits chronicle the people, places, and events
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  • That have shaped our world.
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  • There is coming a series of events so apocalyptic
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  • It will put a period behind the world as we know it
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  • And not one museum will be left standing
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  • To memorialize its destruction.
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  • But what if we could visit such a place?
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  • A museum containing the signs of what is to come,
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  • Exhibits and remnants of the end times.
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  • What could we learn?
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  • How would it change the way we live today?
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  • Though in truth, a museum of this kind will never be built.
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  • Through the lens of god's word,
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  • Our imagination can catch a glimpse
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  • Of not what has happened, but will happen.
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  • Come with me on a tour of bible prophecy,
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  • And we will discover the signs god has laid out in scripture,
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  • Signs that assure us god has a plan
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  • For the future and for eternity.
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  • Announcer: and now, join esteemed bible teacher, pastor,
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  • And author, dr. david jeremiah, as he discusses the importance
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  • Of bible prophecy with your host, sheila walsh.
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  • Sheila walsh: let me ask you first of all,
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  • Where did your interest and your passion
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  • To understand prophecy begin?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: sheila, i grew up in a pastor's home
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  • And my dad who loved the word of god.
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  • Every year when i was growing up,
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  • We would have what they called evangelistic campaigns
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  • And sometimes they called them revivals,
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  • But they would bring people in from the outside.
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  • And almost every one of these people
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  • Who came would have one night devoted to prophecy.
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  • I remember a man by the name of john carrera,
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  • Who used to come to our church every year.
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  • And every time he came on friday night,
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  • It was prophecy night, and he would spellbind us
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  • With what god had planned for us in the future.
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  • Jack van impe was another one who came
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  • And he would do the same thing.
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  • And then of course, god allowed me
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  • To go to dallas theological seminary,
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  • Where i sat under the teaching of dwight pentecost
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  • And john walvoord and the people who really have championed
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  • That cause.
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  • And i realized this is something i want to learn more about.
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  • And one of the first books
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  • I taught when i came to san diego was daniel.
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  • And when i got done with daniel, i taught revelation.
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  • Sheila: wow, that's quite an undertaking.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: and they changed my life, both of those books,
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  • Because they set the tone for what's happening
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  • And what's going to happen.
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  • Sheila: one of the things i love most about the way you teach
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  • Is that you can take the most complicated subject
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  • And break it open in such a way that we all get it.
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  • But i wonder with the study you've done,
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  • How has it impacted your own personal life
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  • And spiritual journey?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well the bible promises, believe it or not,
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  • In fact, the book of revelation
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  • Is the only book in the bible where we are told twice,
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  • "blessed are those who read this book."
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  • If you want to be blessed, you should read
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  • And study the book of revelation
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  • Because the bible promises that if you do,
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  • You will be blessed, and i surely have.
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  • I've learned so much about god's sovereignty
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  • And his wonderful promise to us
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  • That he's still in charge even though everything else
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  • Looks like it's going south on us.
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  • The wonderful truth about prophecy
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  • Is that it guarantees the integrity
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  • Of the rest of the bible.
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  • For instance, in the old testament
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  • There are over 300 prophecies about the first coming
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  • Of christ, where he would be born,
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  • What would happen to him as a child and all of this.
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  • Now we have the perspective of history to go back,
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  • Look at the prophecies and see
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  • Where they were fulfilled in exactness
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  • Without any mistake whatsoever.
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  • Now we have more than twice that many prophecies
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  • About the second coming of christ.
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  • So, here's the deal.
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  • If he was accurate in the first coming,
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  • Will he not be so accurate in the second coming?
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  • So, when you study prophecy, you get god's blueprint
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  • Of what's going to happen in the future
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  • And you begin to see things like the reemergence
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  • Of israel as a nation and the collection of nations
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  • In europe, and all of these things.
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  • And it's like you have a heads up on what's going on.
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  • The news is catching up with prophecy,
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  • And that's what happens when you study that.
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  • Sheila: does the bible say that we should study prophecy?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, the bible--actually,
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  • As i mentioned in the book of revelation,
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  • It tells us to read it and to study it.
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  • And the bible isn't something we can cut and slice and say,
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  • "oh, i like the narrative sections,"
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  • Or, "i like the old testament."
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  • The bible is a whole.
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  • And when you see it that way, in the book of revelation,
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  • You have the fulfillment of everything that's wrong
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  • In the book of genesis.
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  • You know, and i could go through,
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  • There's like 30 or 40 of these things.
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  • The book of revelation is the ultimate fulfillment
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  • Of god's plan for this world and for his people.
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  • And once you get--once you kind of get the end in revelation
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  • And you've got the beginning in genesis,
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  • The rest of it just starts to make sense.
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  • Sheila: in all the years you've had
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  • As a faithful, devoted pastor,
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  • Is there one question on prophecy
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  • That comes up more than any other,
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  • Or maybe one misconception about prophecy?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: i think maybe one of the misunderstandings
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  • That i deal with more than anything else
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  • Is the difference between the rapture
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  • And the second coming, because the two events
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  • Are totally different and they have totally different contexts.
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  • When jesus comes back in the rapture,
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  • It's to take every christian
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  • Who's still on this earth to heaven and resurrect
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  • All those who have died ahead of time.
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  • And we all go to heaven.
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  • And then seven years tribulation is on this earth.
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  • I happen to be one of those people
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  • Who does not believe the church will be in the tribulation.
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  • For the bible says, "there is therefore now no condemnation
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  • To those who were in christ jesus."
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  • I don't know how that promise could ever be fulfilled
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  • If we're gonna be in condemnation for seven years.
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  • At the end of the seven years, the bible says jesus comes back
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  • And those of us who went up come back.
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  • In the book of revelation,
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  • The door to heaven is opened twice.
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  • Once we go up and once we come back.
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  • And so, if we understand that the rapture
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  • Is when he comes for us
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  • And the second advent is when we come back with him
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  • To settle the events on this earth,
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  • Then we can keep those two things straight.
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  • Sheila: that makes it pretty clear.
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  • Often you'll hear people predicting
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  • This is going to be the day,
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  • And all sorts of people try and get their affairs in order,
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  • Or they run their credit cards up because they think,
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  • "i'm going to be out of here."
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  • Have you ever been tempted to name a day, and if not, why not?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: i suppose i've been tempted along the way
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  • To run a credit card up, but never for that reason.
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  • You know, i just, you know, here's the thing.
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  • If there's any question about which there is an absolute
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  • Definite answer, you just ask it.
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  • Because the bible says, "the lord jesus said,
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  • 'no one knows the time of our lord's return
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  • Except the father.'"
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  • And when jesus was on the earth, he did not know.
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  • He was the son of god.
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  • The angels don't know.
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  • The bible does not tell us when he's going to come back.
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  • The bible does give us some indications
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  • Of when we're getting close.
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  • And one of the verses i love is this one that says,
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  • "for now is your redemption nearer than when you believed."
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  • What we do know for sure is from the time you became a christian
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  • And the time i became a christian,
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  • The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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  • Sheila: that's good news.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do
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  • Is try to determine the time, but to be ready
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  • Whatever time it is.
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  • Sheila: i want to give you a list.
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  • I have formed a list of different prophetic terms
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  • That i've been questioned about
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  • And i'm sure people watching this want to know.
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  • So, i'm just going to throw these at you
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  • And see what you have to say.
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  • You already touched on this a little bit, the rapture.
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  • Why do some people believe that there's not going to be
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  • A rapture,
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  • That there's just--that christ is just going
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  • To come back again?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is in the book of thessalonians
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  • And in 1 corinthians 15,
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  • And you cannot read those passages
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  • With any kind of sense of, "is this the truth?"
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  • Without coming away with this.
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  • It's in the bible.
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  • It is absolutely clear.
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  • Paul said it was a new revelation
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  • That was not given to us in the old testament.
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  • It's one of those mysteries that god has unfolded for us.
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  • Sheila: wow.
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  • Okay, let's go for the tribulation.
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  • That's going to be a period of how long
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  • And what's going to happen during the tribulation?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, the tribulation is seven years
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  • Divided into two sections.
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  • The first is kind of what the bible refers to
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  • As the beginning of sorrows.
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  • It's kind of the heating up of the cauldron of pressure.
  • 00:10:59.942 --> 00:11:03.446
  • And what happens in the tribulation is at the beginning
  • 00:11:03.446 --> 00:11:06.215
  • Of the tribulation, the antichrist,
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  • Who's the incarnation of satan,
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  • Makes a covenant with israel for seven years
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  • That they will be able to worship in their temple
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  • And all of that.
  • 00:11:16.325 --> 00:11:17.660
  • And at the end of three and a half years,
  • 00:11:17.660 --> 00:11:19.361
  • He breaks that covenant.
  • 00:11:19.361 --> 00:11:20.930
  • And when that happens, all hell breaks loose on this earth.
  • 00:11:20.930 --> 00:11:24.567
  • And all i can say is when i read that, i'm so grateful
  • 00:11:24.567 --> 00:11:28.771
  • That i'm not going to be here.
  • 00:11:28.771 --> 00:11:30.606
  • It will be worse than anything you can imagine.
  • 00:11:30.606 --> 00:11:32.775
  • The stories of what happens during that time
  • 00:11:32.775 --> 00:11:35.077
  • And the cruelty,
  • 00:11:35.077 --> 00:11:36.412
  • The absolute--you see what happens
  • 00:11:36.412 --> 00:11:38.981
  • In some of the regimes that are in our world today
  • 00:11:38.981 --> 00:11:41.650
  • Where there's no regard for human life.
  • 00:11:41.650 --> 00:11:45.154
  • They are like child's play to what happens
  • 00:11:45.154 --> 00:11:47.556
  • During that period of time.
  • 00:11:47.556 --> 00:11:49.458
  • And it's sometimes referred to as the time of jacob's trouble,
  • 00:11:49.458 --> 00:11:53.729
  • The time of israel's trouble.
  • 00:11:53.729 --> 00:11:55.765
  • And it's not a pretty picture.
  • 00:11:55.765 --> 00:11:58.901
  • Sheila: dark time.
  • 00:11:58.901 --> 00:12:00.236
  • Okay, what about the antichrist?
  • 00:12:00.236 --> 00:12:02.271
  • What do we know about the antichrist?
  • 00:12:02.271 --> 00:12:04.607
  • Dr. jeremiah: well one thing for sure is that we don't know
  • 00:12:04.607 --> 00:12:06.208
  • Who he is, even though a lot of christians play
  • 00:12:06.208 --> 00:12:08.844
  • Pin the tail on the antichrist, you know.
  • 00:12:08.844 --> 00:12:11.313
  • And they try to figure out who he is.
  • 00:12:11.313 --> 00:12:12.648
  • We do not know.
  • 00:12:12.648 --> 00:12:13.983
  • Anybody that says they know, they can't know.
  • 00:12:13.983 --> 00:12:16.652
  • But we know a lot about him.
  • 00:12:16.652 --> 00:12:18.687
  • He is the incarnation of satan.
  • 00:12:18.687 --> 00:12:20.990
  • He is a man who has the oratorical ability
  • 00:12:20.990 --> 00:12:23.793
  • Of adolf hitler,
  • 00:12:23.793 --> 00:12:25.461
  • And--but all of the cruelty that goes along with it.
  • 00:12:25.461 --> 00:12:28.063
  • He's the great deceiver.
  • 00:12:28.063 --> 00:12:29.899
  • He mimics everything that jesus does.
  • 00:12:29.899 --> 00:12:32.067
  • Anti doesn't mean just against, but it means instead of.
  • 00:12:32.067 --> 00:12:35.371
  • So, he will present himself instead of christ.
  • 00:12:35.371 --> 00:12:38.274
  • His whole regime is one of counterfeiting
  • 00:12:38.274 --> 00:12:42.511
  • Everything that christ does.
  • 00:12:42.511 --> 00:12:44.446
  • If you can go through the career of the antichrist,
  • 00:12:44.446 --> 00:12:47.650
  • He doesn't have an original thought.
  • 00:12:47.650 --> 00:12:49.819
  • All he does is try to counterfeit what the lord does.
  • 00:12:49.819 --> 00:12:53.088
  • Sheila: okay, the mark of the beast.
  • 00:12:53.088 --> 00:12:55.591
  • What is that?
  • 00:12:55.591 --> 00:12:56.926
  • Dr. jeremiah: well in the book of revelation, we're told that
  • 00:12:56.926 --> 00:12:58.928
  • During the tribulation period you have to take
  • 00:12:58.928 --> 00:13:01.964
  • The mark of the beast in order to be able to survive.
  • 00:13:01.964 --> 00:13:04.733
  • This is the economic control program of the antichrist.
  • 00:13:04.733 --> 00:13:09.305
  • In other words, the mark of the beast is 666.
  • 00:13:09.305 --> 00:13:12.708
  • And those who, if you won't bow down to the beast,
  • 00:13:12.708 --> 00:13:16.378
  • If you won't bow down to the antichrist
  • 00:13:16.378 --> 00:13:18.414
  • And give him your worship and take the mark,
  • 00:13:18.414 --> 00:13:22.451
  • The bible says you will not be able to buy or sell.
  • 00:13:22.451 --> 00:13:25.454
  • People who don't take the mark will literally
  • 00:13:25.454 --> 00:13:27.590
  • Be starved out of existence.
  • 00:13:27.590 --> 00:13:29.458
  • They won't be able to buy groceries,
  • 00:13:29.458 --> 00:13:31.060
  • They won't be able to do business.
  • 00:13:31.060 --> 00:13:32.862
  • And the mark of the beast
  • 00:13:32.862 --> 00:13:34.363
  • Is the way the antichrist identifies his followers.
  • 00:13:34.363 --> 00:13:41.103
  • Sheila: i've heard believers concerned and looking out
  • 00:13:41.103 --> 00:13:43.606
  • For the mark of the beast, but clearly
  • 00:13:43.606 --> 00:13:46.041
  • If it's in that time, then we're no longer here.
  • 00:13:46.041 --> 00:13:48.177
  • Dr. jeremiah: that's right.
  • 00:13:48.177 --> 00:13:49.511
  • No, we won't be here.
  • 00:13:49.511 --> 00:13:50.846
  • If it--the mark of the beast does not affect believers
  • 00:13:50.846 --> 00:13:52.982
  • Because again, in my opinion, we won't be here.
  • 00:13:52.982 --> 00:13:57.887
  • Sheila: scripture talks about a one world government.
  • 00:13:57.887 --> 00:14:01.223
  • What can you tell us about that?
  • 00:14:01.223 --> 00:14:03.192
  • Dr. jeremiah: well globalism has been a big deal,
  • 00:14:03.192 --> 00:14:04.927
  • Especially of late.
  • 00:14:04.927 --> 00:14:06.629
  • In the end, there will be an attempt to unite the whole world
  • 00:14:06.629 --> 00:14:10.299
  • So that this ruler will have--he'll have control
  • 00:14:10.299 --> 00:14:15.704
  • Of it all.
  • 00:14:15.704 --> 00:14:17.373
  • I'm gonna tell you what i know, sheila, god is not a globalist,
  • 00:14:17.373 --> 00:14:21.143
  • He's a nationalist.
  • 00:14:21.143 --> 00:14:22.678
  • The bible says he's made nations.
  • 00:14:22.678 --> 00:14:24.980
  • According to the book of acts, the nations were created so that
  • 00:14:24.980 --> 00:14:28.918
  • We would trust god, so that we wouldn't get caught up in the...
  • 00:14:28.918 --> 00:14:32.354
  • And the globalism issue goes all the way back
  • 00:14:32.354 --> 00:14:35.324
  • To the tower of babel
  • 00:14:35.324 --> 00:14:37.092
  • When they had a language that was all the same
  • 00:14:37.092 --> 00:14:39.628
  • And because they defied god, the language was confused.
  • 00:14:39.628 --> 00:14:43.232
  • And ever since they've been trying to put
  • 00:14:43.232 --> 00:14:44.967
  • This back together.
  • 00:14:44.967 --> 00:14:46.402
  • And ultimately in the end, when the church is gone,
  • 00:14:46.402 --> 00:14:49.738
  • The world will be kind of under one leader
  • 00:14:49.738 --> 00:14:53.108
  • And that will be globalism.
  • 00:14:53.108 --> 00:14:54.777
  • But it's certainly not anything we want to promote
  • 00:14:54.777 --> 00:14:57.046
  • In this day and age.
  • 00:14:57.046 --> 00:14:58.380
  • Sheila: no.
  • 00:14:58.380 --> 00:14:59.715
  • What about the battle of armageddon?
  • 00:14:59.715 --> 00:15:02.651
  • Where in the line of things--where does
  • 00:15:02.651 --> 00:15:04.186
  • That take place?
  • 00:15:04.186 --> 00:15:05.587
  • Dr. jeremiah: it's clear at the end of the tribulation.
  • 00:15:05.587 --> 00:15:07.356
  • It's kind of the final scene in the tribulation.
  • 00:15:07.356 --> 00:15:10.025
  • The forces of evil and the forces of good
  • 00:15:10.025 --> 00:15:12.995
  • Will have one final encounter and the lord jesus christ
  • 00:15:12.995 --> 00:15:16.799
  • Will be victorious.
  • 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.500
  • And, you know, all of the details of how the nations come
  • 00:15:18.500 --> 00:15:22.004
  • Together and--first of all, they come after israel
  • 00:15:22.004 --> 00:15:24.974
  • And then all of a sudden the lord jesus comes back,
  • 00:15:24.974 --> 00:15:27.543
  • And then all of them turn and come after the lord.
  • 00:15:27.543 --> 00:15:30.279
  • And the bible says he defeats them with the word of his mouth.
  • 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:35.517
  • You know, he goes, i tell people, he goes...and it's over.
  • 00:15:35.517 --> 00:15:39.188
  • And because of his power.
  • 00:15:39.188 --> 00:15:41.256
  • And the bible says we come back with him as believers.
  • 00:15:41.256 --> 00:15:43.792
  • And some people say, "well, we're dressed in white.
  • 00:15:43.792 --> 00:15:46.028
  • Those are not robes of warfare."
  • 00:15:46.028 --> 00:15:47.863
  • That's true because we don't do anything.
  • 00:15:47.863 --> 00:15:49.531
  • We're just spectators.
  • 00:15:49.531 --> 00:15:51.066
  • We come back with the lord jesus.
  • 00:15:51.066 --> 00:15:52.768
  • We watch his victory over all of the forces against him.
  • 00:15:52.768 --> 00:15:55.971
  • And i think we cheer.
  • 00:15:55.971 --> 00:15:58.040
  • Sheila: i'll be cheering.
  • 00:15:58.040 --> 00:15:59.408
  • Dr. jeremiah: we don't do anything.
  • 00:15:59.408 --> 00:16:00.743
  • He doesn't need us.
  • 00:16:00.743 --> 00:16:02.478
  • Sheila: the millennium, we've talked a lot
  • 00:16:02.478 --> 00:16:05.047
  • When we turned into a new millennium,
  • 00:16:05.047 --> 00:16:06.548
  • That was a big deal.
  • 00:16:06.548 --> 00:16:07.883
  • But what is the period of the millennium in biblical prophecy?
  • 00:16:07.883 --> 00:16:10.352
  • Dr. jeremiah: well actually the word "mille" means a thousand.
  • 00:16:10.352 --> 00:16:13.222
  • So, the millennium is a thousand years.
  • 00:16:13.222 --> 00:16:15.424
  • And in the book of revelation, that is actually
  • 00:16:15.424 --> 00:16:18.293
  • Mentioned four or five times in one chapter.
  • 00:16:18.293 --> 00:16:20.896
  • The millennium is a thousand year reign of peace,
  • 00:16:20.896 --> 00:16:25.100
  • And the lord jesus christ will be king.
  • 00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:28.203
  • Surprising to a lot of folks,
  • 00:16:28.203 --> 00:16:30.072
  • David will be his vice president,
  • 00:16:30.072 --> 00:16:31.807
  • So to speak, and will sit on the throne with him,
  • 00:16:31.807 --> 00:16:34.309
  • And they will rule the world in righteousness and in godliness.
  • 00:16:34.309 --> 00:16:38.480
  • And there will still be sin in the millennium,
  • 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:40.682
  • But it will be short-lived.
  • 00:16:40.682 --> 00:16:42.184
  • It will be dealt with immediately.
  • 00:16:42.184 --> 00:16:44.119
  • And when you read about the millennium
  • 00:16:44.119 --> 00:16:46.688
  • And how lifetime will be extended
  • 00:16:46.688 --> 00:16:49.324
  • And the lion will lay down with the lamb
  • 00:16:49.324 --> 00:16:52.161
  • And all of the hostilities that have been a part of our world
  • 00:16:52.161 --> 00:16:55.531
  • Will be--they'll be gone.
  • 00:16:55.531 --> 00:16:58.067
  • The millennium is an incredible thing.
  • 00:16:58.067 --> 00:16:59.768
  • And you know what?
  • 00:16:59.768 --> 00:17:01.270
  • Dwight pentecost, one of my teachers told me
  • 00:17:01.270 --> 00:17:03.405
  • There is more information in the bible on the millennium
  • 00:17:03.405 --> 00:17:06.675
  • Than any other period in all of scripture.
  • 00:17:06.675 --> 00:17:09.778
  • And it's all tucked away in the old testament prophets
  • 00:17:09.778 --> 00:17:13.048
  • Where you wouldn't necessarily go for it,
  • 00:17:13.048 --> 00:17:15.517
  • But then you start to think about it.
  • 00:17:15.517 --> 00:17:17.286
  • Every time you turn around, there's something in the bible
  • 00:17:17.286 --> 00:17:19.621
  • About that period of time.
  • 00:17:19.621 --> 00:17:21.657
  • Sheila: the second coming of christ,
  • 00:17:21.657 --> 00:17:22.991
  • You said that sometimes people get confused about the rapture
  • 00:17:22.991 --> 00:17:25.394
  • And the second coming being the same.
  • 00:17:25.394 --> 00:17:27.329
  • Tell us what we know about the second coming of christ.
  • 00:17:27.329 --> 00:17:30.399
  • Dr. jeremiah: well it's the climax
  • 00:17:30.399 --> 00:17:32.201
  • Of the battle of armageddon
  • 00:17:32.201 --> 00:17:33.735
  • When the lord jesus comes back from heaven.
  • 00:17:33.735 --> 00:17:37.206
  • The bible presents him as riding upon a white horse,
  • 00:17:37.206 --> 00:17:40.509
  • Leading the holy angels and the saints,
  • 00:17:40.509 --> 00:17:43.779
  • And they come and they do war against the evil
  • 00:17:43.779 --> 00:17:47.783
  • That has been accumulated on this earth.
  • 00:17:47.783 --> 00:17:51.520
  • Sheila: so, this leads to the battle of armageddon.
  • 00:17:51.520 --> 00:17:53.188
  • Dr. jeremiah: it is the end of the battle of armageddon.
  • 00:17:53.188 --> 00:17:55.390
  • All of this leads up to the return of christ.
  • 00:17:55.390 --> 00:17:57.759
  • And when he comes back,
  • 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.094
  • He puts an end to it it pretty quickly.
  • 00:17:59.094 --> 00:18:00.696
  • Here comes the lord jesus from heaven
  • 00:18:00.696 --> 00:18:02.931
  • And people think they can fight against him.
  • 00:18:02.931 --> 00:18:05.434
  • And it's totally one-sided.
  • 00:18:05.434 --> 00:18:10.172
  • Sheila: okay, a new heaven and a new earth.
  • 00:18:10.172 --> 00:18:12.341
  • A lot of people want to know, "okay, if i live in fargo now,
  • 00:18:12.341 --> 00:18:15.344
  • Will i be living in fargo in the new heaven and the new earth?"
  • 00:18:15.344 --> 00:18:18.647
  • Dr. jeremiah: well the bible tells us that the earth
  • 00:18:18.647 --> 00:18:20.616
  • As we know it now is going to be cleansed.
  • 00:18:20.616 --> 00:18:22.885
  • In the new testament, we're told it's going to burn up.
  • 00:18:22.885 --> 00:18:25.687
  • The earth as we know it is not going to be destroyed,
  • 00:18:25.687 --> 00:18:28.290
  • But it is going to be purged and cleansed.
  • 00:18:28.290 --> 00:18:30.859
  • Sheila: some of the things, as you've said,
  • 00:18:30.859 --> 00:18:33.228
  • We're not certain about, but one thing is very specific,
  • 00:18:33.228 --> 00:18:36.732
  • And that's this number, 144,000.
  • 00:18:36.732 --> 00:18:40.802
  • Tell us about that number.
  • 00:18:40.802 --> 00:18:42.204
  • Dr. jeremiah: well that represents--there's 12 tribes
  • 00:18:42.204 --> 00:18:44.540
  • Of israel.
  • 00:18:44.540 --> 00:18:46.074
  • So, what is 12 times 12?
  • 00:18:46.074 --> 00:18:48.477
  • Sheila: 144.
  • 00:18:48.477 --> 00:18:49.811
  • Dr. jeremiah: there you go.
  • 00:18:49.811 --> 00:18:51.146
  • And so, these will be jewish evangelists.
  • 00:18:51.146 --> 00:18:54.516
  • I would tell people, you know, i have so many friends
  • 00:18:54.516 --> 00:18:57.085
  • Who are jewish people and i love these people
  • 00:18:57.085 --> 00:18:58.954
  • And their aggressiveness and how they go after
  • 00:18:58.954 --> 00:19:02.357
  • Whatever they think they should go after.
  • 00:19:02.357 --> 00:19:04.893
  • Can you imagine turning 144,000 jewish evangelists
  • 00:19:04.893 --> 00:19:08.897
  • Loose on this earth?
  • 00:19:08.897 --> 00:19:10.432
  • And the bible tells us that it will be
  • 00:19:10.432 --> 00:19:14.102
  • The greatest revival ever in history.
  • 00:19:14.102 --> 00:19:16.872
  • People will come to christ right and left,
  • 00:19:16.872 --> 00:19:18.807
  • And then added to that, of course,
  • 00:19:18.807 --> 00:19:20.842
  • Are the two witnesses.
  • 00:19:20.842 --> 00:19:22.444
  • Sheila: who are the two witnesses?
  • 00:19:22.444 --> 00:19:23.946
  • Dr. jeremiah: well--
  • 00:19:23.946 --> 00:19:25.280
  • Sheila: what do we know?
  • 00:19:25.280 --> 00:19:26.615
  • Dr. jeremiah: i believe it's moses and elijah.
  • 00:19:26.615 --> 00:19:27.950
  • Moses was the great former of the law.
  • 00:19:27.950 --> 00:19:32.654
  • Elijah was the great reformer of the law.
  • 00:19:32.654 --> 00:19:35.891
  • They represent the old testament,
  • 00:19:35.891 --> 00:19:37.926
  • And i believe that they will be
  • 00:19:37.926 --> 00:19:40.562
  • The two witnesses on this earth,
  • 00:19:40.562 --> 00:19:42.698
  • Two most beloved personages by the jewish people.
  • 00:19:42.698 --> 00:19:46.568
  • And then of course some very miraculous things
  • 00:19:46.568 --> 00:19:48.370
  • Are going to happen to these guys
  • 00:19:48.370 --> 00:19:49.838
  • That will literally grab hold of the hearts of people
  • 00:19:49.838 --> 00:19:53.976
  • On this earth.
  • 00:19:53.976 --> 00:19:55.644
  • Sheila: can you see things already happening around us
  • 00:19:55.644 --> 00:19:59.214
  • That are indications of the time we're living in?
  • 00:19:59.214 --> 00:20:01.984
  • Dr. jeremiah: the greatest sign of the fact that we're moving
  • 00:20:01.984 --> 00:20:04.886
  • Into this period of history is the return of israel
  • 00:20:04.886 --> 00:20:08.523
  • Because none of the prophecies of the book of revelation,
  • 00:20:08.523 --> 00:20:11.159
  • Or very few of them,
  • 00:20:11.159 --> 00:20:12.494
  • Could happen if israel's not in the land.
  • 00:20:12.494 --> 00:20:15.063
  • The fact that israel is back in her land is a set up
  • 00:20:15.063 --> 00:20:19.101
  • And take notice to us about where we are.
  • 00:20:19.101 --> 00:20:23.639
  • Then there are other things too.
  • 00:20:23.639 --> 00:20:25.274
  • I mentioned some of the realignment of nations in europe
  • 00:20:25.274 --> 00:20:29.544
  • Because in the end times we know there's a ten-nation coalition
  • 00:20:29.544 --> 00:20:33.248
  • That will be on this earth.
  • 00:20:33.248 --> 00:20:34.850
  • I remember 30 years ago i went to europe
  • 00:20:34.850 --> 00:20:36.852
  • To speak at a missions conference
  • 00:20:36.852 --> 00:20:38.687
  • And i had to stop at every border
  • 00:20:38.687 --> 00:20:40.722
  • For the border patrol to get on the train.
  • 00:20:40.722 --> 00:20:43.158
  • And now you can go clear across europe.
  • 00:20:43.158 --> 00:20:44.726
  • You don't have to stop one time
  • 00:20:44.726 --> 00:20:46.528
  • Because it's now the united states of europe.
  • 00:20:46.528 --> 00:20:50.732
  • That is one of the things that's prophesied in the scripture.
  • 00:20:50.732 --> 00:20:54.369
  • And there's just many others
  • 00:20:54.369 --> 00:20:55.871
  • That are all coming together now.
  • 00:20:55.871 --> 00:20:58.073
  • You know, we talked about the mark of the beast earlier
  • 00:20:58.073 --> 00:21:00.309
  • And all of the imprints and hands
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  • That are becoming pretty common that make you realize,
  • 00:21:03.211 --> 00:21:08.950
  • "well maybe that's the way the mark of the beast will work."
  • 00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:11.420
  • All of those things, you just--you can't help
  • 00:21:11.420 --> 00:21:13.388
  • But notice them.
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  • Sheila: what do you see as the next event
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  • On the prophetic timeline and calendar?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: i believe the only one
  • 00:21:20.128 --> 00:21:21.496
  • That we can be certain of is the rapture.
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  • We know that's going to happen.
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  • So, when you read the passage in matthew
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  • That's about the beginning of sorrows
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  • And you read all of those signs that are a part
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  • Of what's going to happen in the early part
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  • Of the tribulation,
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  • You shouldn't be surprised to start seeing
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  • Some of those things here before the rapture happens
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  • Because they won't just not be here one day and the next day
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  • All of a sudden they're here.
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  • They will be on their way.
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  • And though there are no signs for the rapture,
  • 00:21:50.192 --> 00:21:53.395
  • You can't get away from the fact
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  • That there are signs for the second advent.
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  • If some of the second advent signs are now appearing,
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  • We may be closer than we think.
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  • Sheila: so, nothing has to happen prophetically
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  • Before the rapture.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: there are no signs for the rapture.
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  • Sheila: wow.
  • 00:22:08.076 --> 00:22:09.578
  • Is there any prophetic passage that has been particularly
  • 00:22:09.578 --> 00:22:11.446
  • Meaningful to you as a pastor?
  • 00:22:11.446 --> 00:22:14.750
  • Dr. jeremiah: one of the things that's interesting
  • 00:22:14.750 --> 00:22:16.084
  • About prophecy is while people say it's not relevant,
  • 00:22:16.084 --> 00:22:20.589
  • Almost every major prophetic passage in the bible,
  • 00:22:20.589 --> 00:22:23.625
  • If you stay within the context
  • 00:22:23.625 --> 00:22:25.193
  • Like within two or three verses,
  • 00:22:25.193 --> 00:22:27.129
  • You will find a practical application from that.
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  • And let me just give you a couple of examples.
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  • You know, one of the great passages pastors like to preach
  • 00:22:33.368 --> 00:22:35.771
  • On is in hebrews about going to church where it says,
  • 00:22:35.771 --> 00:22:38.673
  • "and forsake not the assembling of yourselves together
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  • As the manner of some is," but then it says,
  • 00:22:40.876 --> 00:22:45.213
  • "as the day is approaching,
  • 00:22:45.213 --> 00:22:48.049
  • Become more committed to your church."
  • 00:22:48.049 --> 00:22:50.552
  • So, here's this passage of scripture
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  • That talks about the coming of the lord.
  • 00:22:52.554 --> 00:22:55.724
  • And in the midst of it, it says, "one of the things
  • 00:22:55.724 --> 00:22:57.392
  • That you need to be aware of
  • 00:22:57.392 --> 00:22:58.994
  • When you become aware of the coming of the lord
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  • Is the church is more important than you thought."
  • 00:23:00.796 --> 00:23:04.065
  • Here's another illustration.
  • 00:23:04.065 --> 00:23:05.500
  • This is a great passage.
  • 00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:06.868
  • This is one of my favorite passages, john 14: 1-6.
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  • Jesus is communicating to his disciples that he's about to go
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  • Back to heaven and they don't know what this is all about.
  • 00:23:12.641 --> 00:23:15.610
  • And jesus said, "let not your hearts be troubled;
  • 00:23:15.610 --> 00:23:18.780
  • You believe in god, believe also in me.
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  • In my father's house there are many mansions;
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  • If it were not so, i would have told you,
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  • I go to prepare a place for you.
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  • And if i go to prepare a place for you,
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  • I will come again and bring you to heaven with me
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  • So that where i am, there you might be also."
  • 00:23:32.661 --> 00:23:35.263
  • So, what did jesus say?
  • 00:23:35.263 --> 00:23:37.165
  • He said, "i know you're worried about where i'm going,
  • 00:23:37.165 --> 00:23:40.135
  • But don't be troubled."
  • 00:23:40.135 --> 00:23:42.003
  • If you know what you know, you don't have to be troubled.
  • 00:23:42.003 --> 00:23:45.507
  • You can live in this world and study prophecy,
  • 00:23:45.507 --> 00:23:48.877
  • And wherever you go in the prophetic passage,
  • 00:23:48.877 --> 00:23:51.780
  • You will find what god wants you to know about that.
  • 00:23:51.780 --> 00:23:54.850
  • For instance, in the 1 john passage it says,
  • 00:23:54.850 --> 00:23:57.152
  • "therefore, what manner of men should we be because of this?"
  • 00:23:57.152 --> 00:24:00.722
  • Sheila: wow.
  • 00:24:00.722 --> 00:24:02.123
  • I imagine so many people who think, "oh gosh,
  • 00:24:02.123 --> 00:24:04.059
  • What i would give to sit down with dr. jeremiah."
  • 00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:07.195
  • So, just let's imagine we allow that to happen.
  • 00:24:07.195 --> 00:24:09.965
  • If somebody was sitting down with you right now
  • 00:24:09.965 --> 00:24:12.934
  • In light of everything that we've discussed,
  • 00:24:12.934 --> 00:24:16.338
  • What would you say to them?
  • 00:24:16.338 --> 00:24:17.973
  • Dr. jeremiah: well i'd ask some questions.
  • 00:24:17.973 --> 00:24:19.641
  • I would ask them, "if the lord jesus christ should come tonight
  • 00:24:19.641 --> 00:24:24.613
  • And catch up all those who put their trust in him,
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  • Would you be in that group?"
  • 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:29.951
  • In other words, "are you ready to see jesus christ
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  • If he comes back?"
  • 00:24:34.055 --> 00:24:35.690
  • Because if you're not, this is a great time to do that,
  • 00:24:35.690 --> 00:24:39.561
  • To get ready, to receive him as your lord and savior.
  • 00:24:39.561 --> 00:24:42.297
  • The bible says that almighty god loved this world so much
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  • That he sent his own son to this earth
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  • Who went to the cross and paid the penalty for our sin,
  • 00:24:48.203 --> 00:24:53.174
  • The penalty we deserve.
  • 00:24:53.174 --> 00:24:54.676
  • The bible says, "the wages of sin is death."
  • 00:24:54.676 --> 00:24:56.845
  • Somebody had to die
  • 00:24:56.845 --> 00:24:58.480
  • And almighty god sent his son here.
  • 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.049
  • He was god living in a body, and as the son of god,
  • 00:25:01.049 --> 00:25:05.654
  • He went to the cross,
  • 00:25:05.654 --> 00:25:06.988
  • And because his life was infinite,
  • 00:25:06.988 --> 00:25:09.124
  • His death is infinite, and his death was equal
  • 00:25:09.124 --> 00:25:12.093
  • To the death of everyone
  • 00:25:12.093 --> 00:25:13.728
  • Who would ever be on this earth who would put
  • 00:25:13.728 --> 00:25:15.130
  • Their trust in him.
  • 00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:16.565
  • And what that means is one day in my life,
  • 00:25:16.565 --> 00:25:19.768
  • I came to god in prayer and i said,
  • 00:25:19.768 --> 00:25:22.170
  • "god, i know if jesus were to come today
  • 00:25:22.170 --> 00:25:25.874
  • I wouldn't be ready.
  • 00:25:25.874 --> 00:25:27.275
  • I want to receive jesus christ as my savior
  • 00:25:27.275 --> 00:25:29.578
  • And accept what he did on the cross
  • 00:25:29.578 --> 00:25:31.546
  • So that i can become a part of your forever family."
  • 00:25:31.546 --> 00:25:34.916
  • I became a christian that day and everything
  • 00:25:34.916 --> 00:25:37.085
  • In my life changed.
  • 00:25:37.085 --> 00:25:38.653
  • And i've watched and witnessed that happening
  • 00:25:38.653 --> 00:25:40.789
  • To thousands of people.
  • 00:25:40.789 --> 00:25:42.857
  • I get letters from all over the world from people who say,
  • 00:25:42.857 --> 00:25:45.894
  • "i now believe in jesus christ and i'm ready
  • 00:25:45.894 --> 00:25:48.263
  • If jesus comes today."
  • 00:25:48.263 --> 00:25:50.031
  • So, more than anything else, i'm praying that this series
  • 00:25:50.031 --> 00:25:54.369
  • Will open the eyes of people to the reality of who jesus is,
  • 00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:58.673
  • That he has a wonderful plan for our lives
  • 00:25:58.673 --> 00:26:01.142
  • That includes eternity with the father.
  • 00:26:01.142 --> 00:26:04.546
  • I've been so impressed recently of the many verses in the bible
  • 00:26:04.546 --> 00:26:08.116
  • Where jesus says that he wants us to be with him over and over.
  • 00:26:08.116 --> 00:26:14.255
  • I never saw that before.
  • 00:26:14.255 --> 00:26:15.890
  • Almighty god wants us to be with him.
  • 00:26:15.890 --> 00:26:18.526
  • I read somebody said, "if god had a refrigerator,
  • 00:26:18.526 --> 00:26:21.062
  • Your picture would be on it," you know.
  • 00:26:21.062 --> 00:26:23.064
  • And i believe that with all my heart.
  • 00:26:23.064 --> 00:26:24.733
  • God loves us, and god is for us.
  • 00:26:24.733 --> 00:26:27.736
  • And he wants more than anything else, sheila,
  • 00:26:27.736 --> 00:26:29.804
  • For us to be with him forever.
  • 00:26:29.804 --> 00:26:32.073
  • And he's laid out the plan so that we,
  • 00:26:32.073 --> 00:26:34.509
  • Nobody needs to be left out.
  • 00:26:34.509 --> 00:26:36.244
  • No matter what we've done or how far we may feel like we are away
  • 00:26:36.244 --> 00:26:39.714
  • From god, almighty god loves us so much
  • 00:26:39.714 --> 00:26:42.851
  • That he's made the way for us so that we can go to heaven
  • 00:26:42.851 --> 00:26:46.588
  • And spend eternity with him.
  • 00:26:46.588 --> 00:26:48.690
  • I hope that's the message that comes through.
  • 00:26:48.690 --> 00:26:52.093
  • Sheila: dr. jeremiah, everywhere i travel around the country
  • 00:26:52.093 --> 00:26:54.562
  • I hear people tell me how much your life,
  • 00:26:54.562 --> 00:26:59.501
  • The work that you have poured yourself into,
  • 00:26:59.501 --> 00:27:01.136
  • Has touched and changed their lives.
  • 00:27:01.136 --> 00:27:03.238
  • So, i just want to be one voice to say thank you.
  • 00:27:03.238 --> 00:27:06.941
  • Dr. jeremiah: you're welcome.
  • 00:27:06.941 --> 00:27:08.343
  • Sheila, it's--i am more convinced than ever before
  • 00:27:08.343 --> 00:27:12.414
  • Of the great joy that is mine.
  • 00:27:12.414 --> 00:27:14.315
  • I couldn't ask for anything that's more of a privilege
  • 00:27:14.315 --> 00:27:17.519
  • Than i have to be a voice for god in this world,
  • 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.423
  • And i hope i get to do it for a long time.
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  • Is from the time you became a christian
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  • And the time i became a christian,
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  • The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
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  • Sheila: that's good news.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: and what we aren't supposed to do is try to
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  • Determine the time, but to be ready whatever time it is.
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  • Of studying prophecy, here on "turning point."
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  • Dr. jeremiah: museums.
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  • Within the walls of these institutions,
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  • The signs of our history are preserved
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  • Through collections of artistic, cultural,
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  • And scientific importance.
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  • Exhibits chronicle the people, places, and events
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  • That have shaped our world.
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  • There is coming a series of events so apocalyptic
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  • It will put a period behind the world as we know it
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  • And not one museum will be left standing
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  • To memorialize its destruction.
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  • But what if we could visit such a place?
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  • A museum containing the signs of what is to come,
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  • Exhibits and remnants of the end times.
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  • What could we learn?
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  • How would it change the way we live today?
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  • Though in truth, a museum of this kind will never be built.
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  • Through the lens of god's word,
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  • Our imagination can catch a glimpse
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  • Of not what has happened, but will happen.
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  • Come with me on a tour of bible prophecy,
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  • For the future and for eternity.
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  • Announcer: and now, join esteemed bible teacher, pastor,
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  • And author, dr. david jeremiah, as he discusses the importance
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  • Of bible prophecy with your host, sheila walsh.
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  • Sheila walsh: let me ask you first of all,
  • 00:31:35.677 --> 00:31:37.278
  • Where did your interest and your passion
  • 00:31:37.278 --> 00:31:39.881
  • To understand prophecy begin?
  • 00:31:39.881 --> 00:31:41.582
  • Dr. jeremiah: sheila, i grew up in a pastor's home
  • 00:31:41.582 --> 00:31:43.651
  • And my dad who loved the word of god.
  • 00:31:43.651 --> 00:31:46.821
  • Every year when i was growing up,
  • 00:31:46.821 --> 00:31:48.690
  • We would have what they called evangelistic campaigns
  • 00:31:48.690 --> 00:31:51.859
  • And sometimes they called them revivals,
  • 00:31:51.859 --> 00:31:53.895
  • But they would bring people in from the outside.
  • 00:31:53.895 --> 00:31:56.931
  • And almost every one of these people
  • 00:31:56.931 --> 00:31:58.599
  • Who came would have one night devoted to prophecy.
  • 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:03.137
  • I remember a man by the name of john carrera,
  • 00:32:03.137 --> 00:32:06.174
  • Who used to come to our church every year.
  • 00:32:06.174 --> 00:32:07.675
  • And every time he came on friday night,
  • 00:32:07.675 --> 00:32:10.011
  • It was prophecy night, and he would spellbind us
  • 00:32:10.011 --> 00:32:13.481
  • With what god had planned for us in the future.
  • 00:32:13.481 --> 00:32:16.517
  • Jack van impe was another one who came
  • 00:32:16.517 --> 00:32:18.419
  • And he would do the same thing.
  • 00:32:18.419 --> 00:32:20.021
  • And then of course, god allowed me
  • 00:32:20.021 --> 00:32:21.856
  • To go to dallas theological seminary,
  • 00:32:21.856 --> 00:32:24.959
  • Where i sat under the teaching of dwight pentecost
  • 00:32:24.959 --> 00:32:27.996
  • And john walvoord and the people who really have championed
  • 00:32:27.996 --> 00:32:33.001
  • That cause.
  • 00:32:33.001 --> 00:32:34.802
  • And i realized this is something i want to learn more about.
  • 00:32:34.802 --> 00:32:39.607
  • And one of the first books
  • 00:32:39.607 --> 00:32:41.242
  • I taught when i came to san diego was daniel.
  • 00:32:41.242 --> 00:32:46.481
  • And when i got done with daniel, i taught revelation.
  • 00:32:46.481 --> 00:32:49.550
  • Sheila: wow, that's quite an undertaking.
  • 00:32:49.550 --> 00:32:51.252
  • Dr. jeremiah: and they changed my life, both of those books,
  • 00:32:51.252 --> 00:32:54.389
  • Because they set the tone for what's happening
  • 00:32:54.389 --> 00:32:57.191
  • And what's going to happen.
  • 00:32:57.191 --> 00:32:58.559
  • Sheila: one of the things i love most about the way you teach
  • 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.229
  • Is that you can take the most complicated subject
  • 00:33:01.229 --> 00:33:05.066
  • And break it open in such a way that we all get it.
  • 00:33:05.066 --> 00:33:09.070
  • But i wonder with the study you've done,
  • 00:33:09.070 --> 00:33:10.938
  • How has it impacted your own personal life
  • 00:33:10.938 --> 00:33:14.175
  • And spiritual journey?
  • 00:33:14.175 --> 00:33:15.543
  • Dr. jeremiah: well the bible promises, believe it or not,
  • 00:33:15.543 --> 00:33:18.246
  • In fact, the book of revelation
  • 00:33:18.246 --> 00:33:19.714
  • Is the only book in the bible where we are told twice,
  • 00:33:19.714 --> 00:33:23.317
  • "blessed are those who read this book."
  • 00:33:23.317 --> 00:33:26.621
  • If you want to be blessed, you should read
  • 00:33:26.621 --> 00:33:29.157
  • And study the book of revelation
  • 00:33:29.157 --> 00:33:30.625
  • Because the bible promises that if you do,
  • 00:33:30.625 --> 00:33:32.560
  • You will be blessed, and i surely have.
  • 00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:34.962
  • I've learned so much about god's sovereignty
  • 00:33:34.962 --> 00:33:40.535
  • And his wonderful promise to us
  • 00:33:40.535 --> 00:33:43.071
  • That he's still in charge even though everything else
  • 00:33:43.071 --> 00:33:45.540
  • Looks like it's going south on us.
  • 00:33:45.540 --> 00:33:48.576
  • The wonderful truth about prophecy
  • 00:33:48.576 --> 00:33:50.745
  • Is that it guarantees the integrity
  • 00:33:50.745 --> 00:33:53.114
  • Of the rest of the bible.
  • 00:33:53.114 --> 00:33:54.449
  • For instance, in the old testament
  • 00:33:54.449 --> 00:33:56.717
  • There are over 300 prophecies about the first coming
  • 00:33:56.717 --> 00:33:59.620
  • Of christ, where he would be born,
  • 00:33:59.620 --> 00:34:02.156
  • What would happen to him as a child and all of this.
  • 00:34:02.156 --> 00:34:05.626
  • Now we have the perspective of history to go back,
  • 00:34:05.626 --> 00:34:07.962
  • Look at the prophecies and see
  • 00:34:07.962 --> 00:34:09.964
  • Where they were fulfilled in exactness
  • 00:34:09.964 --> 00:34:12.834
  • Without any mistake whatsoever.
  • 00:34:12.834 --> 00:34:15.703
  • Now we have more than twice that many prophecies
  • 00:34:15.703 --> 00:34:18.606
  • About the second coming of christ.
  • 00:34:18.606 --> 00:34:20.708
  • So, here's the deal.
  • 00:34:20.708 --> 00:34:22.143
  • If he was accurate in the first coming,
  • 00:34:22.143 --> 00:34:24.479
  • Will he not be so accurate in the second coming?
  • 00:34:24.479 --> 00:34:27.215
  • So, when you study prophecy, you get god's blueprint
  • 00:34:27.215 --> 00:34:31.953
  • Of what's going to happen in the future
  • 00:34:31.953 --> 00:34:33.855
  • And you begin to see things like the reemergence
  • 00:34:33.855 --> 00:34:37.024
  • Of israel as a nation and the collection of nations
  • 00:34:37.024 --> 00:34:40.361
  • In europe, and all of these things.
  • 00:34:40.361 --> 00:34:42.230
  • And it's like you have a heads up on what's going on.
  • 00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:45.299
  • The news is catching up with prophecy,
  • 00:34:45.299 --> 00:34:47.802
  • And that's what happens when you study that.
  • 00:34:47.802 --> 00:34:50.004
  • Sheila: does the bible say that we should study prophecy?
  • 00:34:50.004 --> 00:34:53.207
  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, the bible--actually,
  • 00:34:53.207 --> 00:34:55.076
  • As i mentioned in the book of revelation,
  • 00:34:55.076 --> 00:34:56.544
  • It tells us to read it and to study it.
  • 00:34:56.544 --> 00:34:58.112
  • And the bible isn't something we can cut and slice and say,
  • 00:34:58.112 --> 00:35:01.048
  • "oh, i like the narrative sections,"
  • 00:35:01.048 --> 00:35:03.351
  • Or, "i like the old testament."
  • 00:35:03.351 --> 00:35:05.286
  • The bible is a whole.
  • 00:35:05.286 --> 00:35:06.954
  • And when you see it that way, in the book of revelation,
  • 00:35:06.954 --> 00:35:09.624
  • You have the fulfillment of everything that's wrong
  • 00:35:09.624 --> 00:35:11.893
  • In the book of genesis.
  • 00:35:11.893 --> 00:35:13.494
  • You know, and i could go through,
  • 00:35:13.494 --> 00:35:15.062
  • There's like 30 or 40 of these things.
  • 00:35:15.062 --> 00:35:17.698
  • The book of revelation is the ultimate fulfillment
  • 00:35:17.698 --> 00:35:20.234
  • Of god's plan for this world and for his people.
  • 00:35:20.234 --> 00:35:23.738
  • And once you get--once you kind of get the end in revelation
  • 00:35:23.738 --> 00:35:26.741
  • And you've got the beginning in genesis,
  • 00:35:26.741 --> 00:35:28.609
  • The rest of it just starts to make sense.
  • 00:35:28.609 --> 00:35:31.312
  • Sheila: in all the years you've had
  • 00:35:31.312 --> 00:35:33.014
  • As a faithful, devoted pastor,
  • 00:35:33.014 --> 00:35:35.416
  • Is there one question on prophecy
  • 00:35:35.416 --> 00:35:37.818
  • That comes up more than any other,
  • 00:35:37.818 --> 00:35:39.720
  • Or maybe one misconception about prophecy?
  • 00:35:39.720 --> 00:35:42.490
  • Dr. jeremiah: i think maybe one of the misunderstandings
  • 00:35:42.490 --> 00:35:46.427
  • That i deal with more than anything else
  • 00:35:46.427 --> 00:35:49.530
  • Is the difference between the rapture
  • 00:35:49.530 --> 00:35:52.033
  • And the second coming, because the two events
  • 00:35:52.033 --> 00:35:54.802
  • Are totally different and they have totally different contexts.
  • 00:35:54.802 --> 00:35:58.839
  • When jesus comes back in the rapture,
  • 00:35:58.839 --> 00:36:00.741
  • It's to take every christian
  • 00:36:00.741 --> 00:36:02.777
  • Who's still on this earth to heaven and resurrect
  • 00:36:02.777 --> 00:36:04.946
  • All those who have died ahead of time.
  • 00:36:04.946 --> 00:36:07.148
  • And we all go to heaven.
  • 00:36:07.148 --> 00:36:08.783
  • And then seven years tribulation is on this earth.
  • 00:36:08.783 --> 00:36:12.253
  • I happen to be one of those people
  • 00:36:12.253 --> 00:36:13.988
  • Who does not believe the church will be in the tribulation.
  • 00:36:13.988 --> 00:36:16.591
  • For the bible says, "there is therefore now no condemnation
  • 00:36:16.591 --> 00:36:20.528
  • To those who were in christ jesus."
  • 00:36:20.528 --> 00:36:22.196
  • I don't know how that promise could ever be fulfilled
  • 00:36:22.196 --> 00:36:24.465
  • If we're gonna be in condemnation for seven years.
  • 00:36:24.465 --> 00:36:27.235
  • At the end of the seven years, the bible says jesus comes back
  • 00:36:27.235 --> 00:36:30.838
  • And those of us who went up come back.
  • 00:36:30.838 --> 00:36:34.108
  • In the book of revelation,
  • 00:36:34.108 --> 00:36:35.509
  • The door to heaven is opened twice.
  • 00:36:35.509 --> 00:36:37.778
  • Once we go up and once we come back.
  • 00:36:37.778 --> 00:36:40.281
  • And so, if we understand that the rapture
  • 00:36:40.281 --> 00:36:42.450
  • Is when he comes for us
  • 00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:44.385
  • And the second advent is when we come back with him
  • 00:36:44.385 --> 00:36:46.887
  • To settle the events on this earth,
  • 00:36:46.887 --> 00:36:49.323
  • Then we can keep those two things straight.
  • 00:36:49.323 --> 00:36:51.259
  • Sheila: that makes it pretty clear.
  • 00:36:51.259 --> 00:36:53.094
  • Often you'll hear people predicting
  • 00:36:53.094 --> 00:36:55.830
  • This is going to be the day,
  • 00:36:55.830 --> 00:36:57.398
  • And all sorts of people try and get their affairs in order,
  • 00:36:57.398 --> 00:36:59.467
  • Or they run their credit cards up because they think,
  • 00:36:59.467 --> 00:37:01.235
  • "i'm going to be out of here."
  • 00:37:01.235 --> 00:37:02.570
  • Have you ever been tempted to name a day, and if not, why not?
  • 00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:06.307
  • Dr. jeremiah: i suppose i've been tempted along the way
  • 00:37:06.307 --> 00:37:07.942
  • To run a credit card up, but never for that reason.
  • 00:37:07.942 --> 00:37:10.611
  • You know, i just, you know, here's the thing.
  • 00:37:10.611 --> 00:37:13.381
  • If there's any question about which there is an absolute
  • 00:37:13.381 --> 00:37:16.083
  • Definite answer, you just ask it.
  • 00:37:16.083 --> 00:37:18.552
  • Because the bible says, "the lord jesus said,
  • 00:37:18.552 --> 00:37:20.955
  • 'no one knows the time of our lord's return
  • 00:37:20.955 --> 00:37:23.891
  • Except the father.'"
  • 00:37:23.891 --> 00:37:25.359
  • And when jesus was on the earth, he did not know.
  • 00:37:25.359 --> 00:37:28.296
  • He was the son of god.
  • 00:37:28.296 --> 00:37:29.630
  • The angels don't know.
  • 00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:31.065
  • The bible does not tell us when he's going to come back.
  • 00:37:31.065 --> 00:37:34.869
  • The bible does give us some indications
  • 00:37:34.869 --> 00:37:39.073
  • Of when we're getting close.
  • 00:37:39.073 --> 00:37:41.542
  • And one of the verses i love is this one that says,
  • 00:37:41.542 --> 00:37:44.478
  • "for now is your redemption nearer than when you believed."
  • 00:37:44.478 --> 00:37:49.684
  • What we do know for sure is from the time you became a christian
  • 00:37:49.684 --> 00:37:53.254
  • And the time i became a christian,
  • 00:37:53.254 --> 00:37:55.222
  • The coming of christ is nearer than it was then.
  • 00:37:55.222 --> 00:37:57.692
  • Sheila: that's good news.
  • 00:37:57.692 --> 00:37:59.026
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  • 00:37:59.026 --> 00:38:00.695
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  • 00:38:00.695 --> 00:38:04.131
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  • Sheila: i want to give you a list.
  • 00:39:33.587 --> 00:39:35.089
  • I have formed a list of different prophetic terms
  • 00:39:35.089 --> 00:39:37.191
  • That i've been questioned about
  • 00:39:37.191 --> 00:39:38.993
  • And i'm sure people watching this want to know.
  • 00:39:38.993 --> 00:39:41.295
  • So, i'm just going to throw these at you
  • 00:39:41.295 --> 00:39:42.797
  • And see what you have to say.
  • 00:39:42.797 --> 00:39:44.131
  • You already touched on this a little bit, the rapture.
  • 00:39:44.131 --> 00:39:47.735
  • Why do some people believe that there's not going to be
  • 00:39:47.735 --> 00:39:49.570
  • A rapture,
  • 00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:50.905
  • That there's just--that christ is just going
  • 00:39:50.905 --> 00:39:52.239
  • To come back again?
  • 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.574
  • Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is in the book of thessalonians
  • 00:39:53.574 --> 00:39:55.576
  • And in 1 corinthians 15,
  • 00:39:55.576 --> 00:39:57.378
  • And you cannot read those passages
  • 00:39:57.378 --> 00:39:58.813
  • With any kind of sense of, "is this the truth?"
  • 00:39:58.813 --> 00:40:01.482
  • Without coming away with this.
  • 00:40:01.482 --> 00:40:03.050
  • It's in the bible.
  • 00:40:03.050 --> 00:40:04.385
  • It is absolutely clear.
  • 00:40:04.385 --> 00:40:05.786
  • Paul said it was a new revelation
  • 00:40:05.786 --> 00:40:07.288
  • That was not given to us in the old testament.
  • 00:40:07.288 --> 00:40:09.356
  • It's one of those mysteries that god has unfolded for us.
  • 00:40:09.356 --> 00:40:13.127
  • Sheila: wow.
  • 00:40:13.127 --> 00:40:14.462
  • Okay, let's go for the tribulation.
  • 00:40:14.462 --> 00:40:16.697
  • That's going to be a period of how long
  • 00:40:16.697 --> 00:40:19.233
  • And what's going to happen during the tribulation?
  • 00:40:19.233 --> 00:40:21.202
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, the tribulation is seven years
  • 00:40:21.202 --> 00:40:22.937
  • Divided into two sections.
  • 00:40:22.937 --> 00:40:25.873
  • The first is kind of what the bible refers to
  • 00:40:25.873 --> 00:40:27.908
  • As the beginning of sorrows.
  • 00:40:27.908 --> 00:40:29.410
  • It's kind of the heating up of the cauldron of pressure.
  • 00:40:29.410 --> 00:40:32.913
  • And what happens in the tribulation is at the beginning
  • 00:40:32.913 --> 00:40:35.683
  • Of the tribulation, the antichrist,
  • 00:40:35.683 --> 00:40:38.819
  • Who's the incarnation of satan,
  • 00:40:38.819 --> 00:40:41.121
  • Makes a covenant with israel for seven years
  • 00:40:41.121 --> 00:40:43.858
  • That they will be able to worship in their temple
  • 00:40:43.858 --> 00:40:45.793
  • And all of that.
  • 00:40:45.793 --> 00:40:47.127
  • And at the end of three and a half years,
  • 00:40:47.127 --> 00:40:48.829
  • He breaks that covenant.
  • 00:40:48.829 --> 00:40:50.397
  • And when that happens, all hell breaks loose on this earth.
  • 00:40:50.397 --> 00:40:54.034
  • And all i can say is when i read that, i'm so grateful
  • 00:40:54.034 --> 00:40:58.239
  • That i'm not going to be here.
  • 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.074
  • It will be worse than anything you can imagine.
  • 00:41:00.074 --> 00:41:02.243
  • The stories of what happens during that time
  • 00:41:02.243 --> 00:41:04.545
  • And the cruelty,
  • 00:41:04.545 --> 00:41:05.880
  • The absolute--you see what happens
  • 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.449
  • In some of the regimes that are in our world today
  • 00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:11.118
  • Where there's no regard for human life.
  • 00:41:11.118 --> 00:41:14.622
  • They are like child's play to what happens
  • 00:41:14.622 --> 00:41:17.024
  • During that period of time.
  • 00:41:17.024 --> 00:41:18.926
  • And it's sometimes referred to as the time of jacob's trouble,
  • 00:41:18.926 --> 00:41:23.197
  • The time of israel's trouble.
  • 00:41:23.197 --> 00:41:25.165
  • Sheial: okay, what about the antichrist?
  • 00:41:25.165 --> 00:41:27.201
  • What do we know about the antichrist?
  • 00:41:27.201 --> 00:41:29.537
  • Dr. jeremiah: well one thing for sure is that we don't know
  • 00:41:29.537 --> 00:41:31.138
  • Who he is, even though a lot of christians play
  • 00:41:31.138 --> 00:41:33.774
  • Pin the tail on the antichrist, you know.
  • 00:41:33.774 --> 00:41:36.243
  • And they try to figure out who he is.
  • 00:41:36.243 --> 00:41:37.578
  • We do not know.
  • 00:41:37.578 --> 00:41:38.913
  • Anybody that says they know, they can't know.
  • 00:41:38.913 --> 00:41:41.916
  • But we know a lot about him.
  • 00:41:41.916 --> 00:41:43.951
  • He is the incarnation of satan.
  • 00:41:43.951 --> 00:41:46.253
  • He is a man who has the oratorical ability
  • 00:41:46.253 --> 00:41:49.056
  • Of adolf hitler,
  • 00:41:49.056 --> 00:41:50.724
  • And--but all of the cruelty that goes along with it.
  • 00:41:50.724 --> 00:41:53.327
  • He's the great deceiver.
  • 00:41:53.327 --> 00:41:55.162
  • He mimics everything that jesus does.
  • 00:41:55.162 --> 00:41:57.331
  • Anti doesn't mean just against, but it means instead of.
  • 00:41:57.331 --> 00:42:00.634
  • So, he will present himself instead of christ.
  • 00:42:00.634 --> 00:42:03.537
  • His whole regime is one of counterfeiting
  • 00:42:03.537 --> 00:42:07.775
  • Everything that christ does.
  • 00:42:07.775 --> 00:42:09.710
  • If you can go through the career of the antichrist,
  • 00:42:09.710 --> 00:42:12.913
  • He doesn't have an original thought.
  • 00:42:12.913 --> 00:42:15.082
  • All he does is try to counterfeit what the lord does.
  • 00:42:15.082 --> 00:42:18.352
  • Sheila: okay, the mark of the beast.
  • 00:42:18.352 --> 00:42:20.854
  • What is that?
  • 00:42:20.854 --> 00:42:22.189
  • Dr. jeremiah: well in the book of revelation, we're told that
  • 00:42:22.189 --> 00:42:24.191
  • During the tribulation period you have to take
  • 00:42:24.191 --> 00:42:27.227
  • The mark of the beast in order to be able to survive.
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  • This is the economic control program of the antichrist.
  • 00:42:29.997 --> 00:42:34.568
  • In other words, the mark of the beast is 666.
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  • And those who, if you won't bow down to the beast,
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  • If you won't bow down to the antichrist
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  • And give him your worship and take the mark,
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  • The bible says you will not be able to buy or sell.
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  • People who don't take the mark will literally
  • 00:42:50.718 --> 00:42:52.853
  • Be starved out of existence.
  • 00:42:52.853 --> 00:42:54.722
  • They won't be able to buy groceries,
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  • They won't be able to do business.
  • 00:42:56.323 --> 00:42:58.125
  • And the mark of the beast
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  • Is the way the antichrist identifies his followers.
  • 00:42:59.627 --> 00:43:06.367
  • Sheila: i've heard believers concerned and looking out
  • 00:43:06.367 --> 00:43:08.869
  • For the mark of the beast, but clearly
  • 00:43:08.869 --> 00:43:11.305
  • If it's in that time, then we're no longer here.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: that's right.
  • 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:14.775
  • No, we won't be here.
  • 00:43:14.775 --> 00:43:16.110
  • If it--the mark of the beast does not affect believers
  • 00:43:16.110 --> 00:43:18.245
  • Because again, in my opinion, we won't be here.
  • 00:43:18.245 --> 00:43:23.150
  • Sheila: scripture talks about a one world government.
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  • What can you tell us about that?
  • 00:43:26.487 --> 00:43:28.455
  • Dr. jeremiah: well globalism has been a big deal,
  • 00:43:28.455 --> 00:43:30.190
  • Especially of late.
  • 00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:31.892
  • In the end, there will be an attempt to unite the whole world
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  • So that this ruler will have--he'll have control
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  • Of it all.
  • 00:43:40.968 --> 00:43:42.636
  • I'm gonna tell you what i know, sheila, god is not a globalist,
  • 00:43:42.636 --> 00:43:46.407
  • He's a nationalist.
  • 00:43:46.407 --> 00:43:47.941
  • The bible says he's made nations.
  • 00:43:47.941 --> 00:43:50.244
  • According to the book of acts, the nations were created so that
  • 00:43:50.244 --> 00:43:54.181
  • We would trust god, so that we wouldn't get caught up in the...
  • 00:43:54.181 --> 00:43:57.618
  • And the globalism issue goes all the way back
  • 00:43:57.618 --> 00:44:00.587
  • To the tower of babel
  • 00:44:00.587 --> 00:44:02.356
  • When they had a language that was all the same
  • 00:44:02.356 --> 00:44:04.892
  • And because they defied god, the language was confused.
  • 00:44:04.892 --> 00:44:08.495
  • And ever since they've been trying to put
  • 00:44:08.495 --> 00:44:10.230
  • This back together.
  • 00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:11.665
  • And ultimately in the end, when the church is gone,
  • 00:44:11.665 --> 00:44:15.002
  • The world will be kind of under one leader
  • 00:44:15.002 --> 00:44:18.372
  • And that will be globalism.
  • 00:44:18.372 --> 00:44:20.040
  • But it's certainly not anything we want to promote
  • 00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:22.309
  • In this day and age.
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  • Sheila: no.
  • 00:44:23.644 --> 00:44:24.978
  • What about the battle of armageddon?
  • 00:44:24.978 --> 00:44:27.915
  • Where in the line of things--where does
  • 00:44:27.915 --> 00:44:29.450
  • That take place?
  • 00:44:29.450 --> 00:44:30.851
  • Dr. jeremiah: it's clear at the end of the tribulation.
  • 00:44:30.851 --> 00:44:32.619
  • It's kind of the final scene in the tribulation.
  • 00:44:32.619 --> 00:44:35.289
  • The forces of evil and the forces of good
  • 00:44:35.289 --> 00:44:38.258
  • Will have one final encounter and the lord jesus christ
  • 00:44:38.258 --> 00:44:42.062
  • Will be victorious.
  • 00:44:42.062 --> 00:44:43.764
  • And, you know, all of the details of how the nations come
  • 00:44:43.764 --> 00:44:47.267
  • Together and--first of all, they come after israel
  • 00:44:47.267 --> 00:44:50.237
  • And then all of a sudden the lord jesus comes back,
  • 00:44:50.237 --> 00:44:52.806
  • And then all of them turn and come after the lord.
  • 00:44:52.806 --> 00:44:55.542
  • And the bible says he defeats them with the word of his mouth.
  • 00:44:55.542 --> 00:45:00.781
  • You know, he goes, i tell people, he goes...and it's over.
  • 00:45:00.781 --> 00:45:04.451
  • And because of his power.
  • 00:45:04.451 --> 00:45:06.520
  • And the bible says we come back with him as believers.
  • 00:45:06.520 --> 00:45:09.056
  • And some people say, "well, we're dressed in white.
  • 00:45:09.056 --> 00:45:11.291
  • Those are not robes of warfare."
  • 00:45:11.291 --> 00:45:13.127
  • That's true because we don't do anything.
  • 00:45:13.127 --> 00:45:14.795
  • We're just spectators.
  • 00:45:14.795 --> 00:45:16.330
  • We come back with the lord jesus.
  • 00:45:16.330 --> 00:45:18.031
  • We watch his victory over all of the forces against him.
  • 00:45:18.031 --> 00:45:21.235
  • And i think we cheer.
  • 00:45:21.235 --> 00:45:23.303
  • Sheila: i'll be cheering.
  • 00:45:23.303 --> 00:45:24.671
  • Dr. jeremiah: we don't do anything.
  • 00:45:24.671 --> 00:45:26.006
  • He doesn't need us.
  • 00:45:26.006 --> 00:45:27.741
  • Sheila: the millennium, we've talked a lot
  • 00:45:27.741 --> 00:45:30.310
  • When we turned into a new millennium,
  • 00:45:30.310 --> 00:45:31.812
  • That was a big deal.
  • 00:45:31.812 --> 00:45:33.147
  • But what is the period of the millennium in biblical prophecy?
  • 00:45:33.147 --> 00:45:35.616
  • Dr. jeremiah: well actually the word "mille" means a thousand.
  • 00:45:35.616 --> 00:45:38.485
  • So, the millennium is a thousand years.
  • 00:45:38.485 --> 00:45:40.687
  • And in the book of revelation, that is actually
  • 00:45:40.687 --> 00:45:43.557
  • Mentioned four or five times in one chapter.
  • 00:45:43.557 --> 00:45:46.160
  • The millennium is a thousand year reign of peace,
  • 00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:50.364
  • And the lord jesus christ will be king.
  • 00:45:50.364 --> 00:45:53.467
  • Surprising to a lot of folks,
  • 00:45:53.467 --> 00:45:55.335
  • David will be his vice president,
  • 00:45:55.335 --> 00:45:57.070
  • So to speak, and will sit on the throne with him,
  • 00:45:57.070 --> 00:45:59.573
  • And they will rule the world in righteousness and in godliness.
  • 00:45:59.573 --> 00:46:03.744
  • And there will still be sin in the millennium,
  • 00:46:03.744 --> 00:46:05.946
  • But it will be short-lived.
  • 00:46:05.946 --> 00:46:07.447
  • It will be dealt with immediately.
  • 00:46:07.447 --> 00:46:09.383
  • And when you read about the millennium
  • 00:46:09.383 --> 00:46:11.952
  • And how lifetime will be extended
  • 00:46:11.952 --> 00:46:14.588
  • And the lion will lay down with the lamb
  • 00:46:14.588 --> 00:46:17.424
  • And all of the hostilities that have been a part of our world
  • 00:46:17.424 --> 00:46:20.794
  • Will be--they'll be gone.
  • 00:46:20.794 --> 00:46:23.330
  • The millennium is an incredible thing.
  • 00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:25.032
  • And you know what?
  • 00:46:25.032 --> 00:46:26.533
  • Dwight pentecost, one of my teachers told me
  • 00:46:26.533 --> 00:46:28.669
  • There is more information in the bible on the millennium
  • 00:46:28.669 --> 00:46:31.939
  • Than any other period in all of scripture.
  • 00:46:31.939 --> 00:46:35.042
  • And it's all tucked away in the old testament prophets
  • 00:46:35.042 --> 00:46:38.312
  • Where you wouldn't necessarily go for it,
  • 00:46:38.312 --> 00:46:40.781
  • But then you start to think about it.
  • 00:46:40.781 --> 00:46:42.549
  • Every time you turn around, there's something in the bible
  • 00:46:42.549 --> 00:46:44.885
  • About that period of time.
  • 00:46:44.885 --> 00:46:46.920
  • Sheila: the second coming of christ,
  • 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:48.255
  • You said that sometimes people get confused about the rapture
  • 00:46:48.255 --> 00:46:50.657
  • And the second coming being the same.
  • 00:46:50.657 --> 00:46:52.593
  • Tell us what we know about the second coming of christ.
  • 00:46:52.593 --> 00:46:55.662
  • Dr. jeremiah: well it's the climax
  • 00:46:55.662 --> 00:46:57.464
  • Of the battle of armageddon
  • 00:46:57.464 --> 00:46:58.999
  • When the lord jesus comes back from heaven.
  • 00:46:58.999 --> 00:47:02.469
  • The bible presents him as riding upon a white horse,
  • 00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:05.772
  • Leading the holy angels and the saints,
  • 00:47:05.772 --> 00:47:09.042
  • And they come and they do war against the evil
  • 00:47:09.042 --> 00:47:13.046
  • That has been accumulated on this earth.
  • 00:47:13.046 --> 00:47:16.783
  • Sheila: so, this leads to the battle of armageddon.
  • 00:47:16.783 --> 00:47:18.452
  • Dr. jeremiah: it is the end of the battle of armageddon.
  • 00:47:18.452 --> 00:47:20.654
  • All of this leads up to the return of christ.
  • 00:47:20.654 --> 00:47:23.023
  • And when he comes back,
  • 00:47:23.023 --> 00:47:24.358
  • He puts an end to it it pretty quickly.
  • 00:47:24.358 --> 00:47:25.959
  • Here comes the lord jesus from heaven
  • 00:47:25.959 --> 00:47:28.195
  • And people think they can fight against him.
  • 00:47:28.195 --> 00:47:30.697
  • And it's totally one-sided.
  • 00:47:30.697 --> 00:47:35.435
  • Sheila: okay, a new heaven and a new earth.
  • 00:47:35.435 --> 00:47:37.604
  • A lot of people want to know, "okay, if i live in fargo now,
  • 00:47:37.604 --> 00:47:40.607
  • Will i be living in fargo in the new heaven and the new earth?"
  • 00:47:40.607 --> 00:47:43.911
  • Dr. jeremiah: well the bible tells us that the earth
  • 00:47:43.911 --> 00:47:45.879
  • As we know it now is going to be cleansed.
  • 00:47:45.879 --> 00:47:48.148
  • In the new testament, we're told it's going to burn up.
  • 00:47:48.148 --> 00:47:50.951
  • The earth as we know it is not going to be destroyed,
  • 00:47:50.951 --> 00:47:53.553
  • But it is going to be purged and cleansed.
  • 00:47:53.553 --> 00:47:56.123
  • Sheila: some of the things, as you've said,
  • 00:47:56.123 --> 00:47:58.492
  • We're not certain about, but one thing is very specific,
  • 00:47:58.492 --> 00:48:01.995
  • And that's this number, 144,000.
  • 00:48:01.995 --> 00:48:06.066
  • Tell us about that number.
  • 00:48:06.066 --> 00:48:07.467
  • Dr. jeremiah: well that represents--there's 12 tribes
  • 00:48:07.467 --> 00:48:09.803
  • Of israel.
  • 00:48:09.803 --> 00:48:11.338
  • So, what is 12 times 12?
  • 00:48:11.338 --> 00:48:13.740
  • Sheila: 144.
  • 00:48:13.740 --> 00:48:15.075
  • Dr. jeremiah: there you go.
  • 00:48:15.075 --> 00:48:16.410
  • And so, these will be jewish evangelists.
  • 00:48:16.410 --> 00:48:19.780
  • I would tell people, you know, i have so many friends
  • 00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:22.349
  • Who are jewish people and i love these people
  • 00:48:22.349 --> 00:48:24.217
  • And their aggressiveness and how they go after
  • 00:48:24.217 --> 00:48:27.621
  • Whatever they think they should go after.
  • 00:48:27.621 --> 00:48:30.157
  • Can you imagine turning 144,000 jewish evangelists
  • 00:48:30.157 --> 00:48:34.161
  • Loose on this earth?
  • 00:48:34.161 --> 00:48:35.696
  • And the bible tells us that it will be
  • 00:48:35.696 --> 00:48:39.366
  • The greatest revival ever in history.
  • 00:48:39.366 --> 00:48:42.135
  • People will come to christ right and left,
  • 00:48:42.135 --> 00:48:44.071
  • And then added to that, of course,
  • 00:48:44.071 --> 00:48:46.106
  • Are the two witnesses.
  • 00:48:46.106 --> 00:48:47.708
  • Sheila: who are the two witnesses?
  • 00:48:47.708 --> 00:48:49.209
  • Dr. jeremiah: well--
  • 00:48:49.209 --> 00:48:50.544
  • Sheila: what do we know?
  • 00:48:50.544 --> 00:48:51.878
  • Dr. jeremiah: i believe it's moses and elijah.
  • 00:48:51.878 --> 00:48:53.213
  • Moses was the great former of the law.
  • 00:48:53.213 --> 00:48:57.918
  • Elijah was the great reformer of the law.
  • 00:48:57.918 --> 00:49:01.154
  • They represent the old testament,
  • 00:49:01.154 --> 00:49:03.190
  • And i believe that they will be
  • 00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:05.826
  • The two witnesses on this earth,
  • 00:49:05.826 --> 00:49:07.961
  • Two most beloved personages by the jewish people.
  • 00:49:07.961 --> 00:49:11.832
  • And then of course some very miraculous things
  • 00:49:11.832 --> 00:49:13.633
  • Are going to happen to these guys
  • 00:49:13.633 --> 00:49:15.102
  • That will literally grab hold of the hearts of people
  • 00:49:15.102 --> 00:49:19.239
  • On this earth.
  • 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:20.907
  • Sheila: can you see things already happening around us
  • 00:49:20.907 --> 00:49:24.478
  • That are indications of the time we're living in?
  • 00:49:24.478 --> 00:49:27.247
  • Dr. jeremiah: the greatest sign of the fact that we're moving
  • 00:49:27.247 --> 00:49:30.150
  • Into this period of history is the return of israel
  • 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:33.787
  • Because none of the prophecies of the book of revelation,
  • 00:49:33.787 --> 00:49:36.423
  • Or very few of them,
  • 00:49:36.423 --> 00:49:37.758
  • Could happen if israel's not in the land.
  • 00:49:37.758 --> 00:49:40.293
  • Sheila: is there any prophetic passage that has been
  • 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:42.229
  • Particularly meaningful to you as a pastor?
  • 00:49:42.229 --> 00:49:46.199
  • Dr. jeremiah: one of the things that's interesting
  • 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:47.534
  • About prophecy is while people say it's not relevant,
  • 00:49:47.534 --> 00:49:52.039
  • Almost every major prophetic passage in the bible,
  • 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.075
  • If you stay within the context
  • 00:49:55.075 --> 00:49:56.643
  • Like within two or three verses,
  • 00:49:56.643 --> 00:49:58.578
  • You will find a practical application from that.
  • 00:49:58.578 --> 00:50:02.616
  • And let me just give you a couple of examples.
  • 00:50:02.616 --> 00:50:04.818
  • You know, one of the great passages pastors like to preach
  • 00:50:04.818 --> 00:50:07.220
  • On is in hebrews about going to church where it says,
  • 00:50:07.220 --> 00:50:10.123
  • "and forsake not the assembling of yourselves together
  • 00:50:10.123 --> 00:50:12.325
  • As the manner of some is," but then it says,
  • 00:50:12.325 --> 00:50:16.663
  • "as the day is approaching,
  • 00:50:16.663 --> 00:50:19.499
  • Become more committed to your church."
  • 00:50:19.499 --> 00:50:22.002
  • So, here's this passage of scripture
  • 00:50:22.002 --> 00:50:24.004
  • That talks about the coming of the lord.
  • 00:50:24.004 --> 00:50:27.174
  • And in the midst of it, it says, "one of the things
  • 00:50:27.174 --> 00:50:28.842
  • That you need to be aware of
  • 00:50:28.842 --> 00:50:30.444
  • When you become aware of the coming of the lord
  • 00:50:30.444 --> 00:50:32.245
  • Is the church is more important than you thought."
  • 00:50:32.245 --> 00:50:35.515
  • Here's another illustration.
  • 00:50:35.515 --> 00:50:36.950
  • This is a great passage.
  • 00:50:36.950 --> 00:50:38.318
  • This is one of my favorite passages, john 14: 1-6.
  • 00:50:38.318 --> 00:50:41.388
  • Jesus is communicating to his disciples that he's about to go
  • 00:50:41.388 --> 00:50:44.091
  • Back to heaven and they don't know what this is all about.
  • 00:50:44.091 --> 00:50:47.060
  • And jesus said, "let not your hearts be troubled;
  • 00:50:47.060 --> 00:50:50.230
  • You believe in god, believe also in me.
  • 00:50:50.230 --> 00:50:52.866
  • In my father's house there are many mansions;
  • 00:50:52.866 --> 00:50:54.968
  • If it were not so, i would have told you,
  • 00:50:54.968 --> 00:50:57.237
  • I go to prepare a place for you.
  • 00:50:57.237 --> 00:50:58.905
  • And if i go to prepare a place for you,
  • 00:50:58.905 --> 00:51:00.474
  • I will come again and bring you to heaven with me
  • 00:51:00.474 --> 00:51:04.111
  • So that where i am, there you might be also."
  • 00:51:04.111 --> 00:51:06.713
  • So, what did jesus say?
  • 00:51:06.713 --> 00:51:08.615
  • He said, "i know you're worried about where i'm going,
  • 00:51:08.615 --> 00:51:11.585
  • But don't be troubled."
  • 00:51:11.585 --> 00:51:13.453
  • If you know what you know, you don't have to be troubled.
  • 00:51:13.453 --> 00:51:16.957
  • You can live in this world and study prophecy,
  • 00:51:16.957 --> 00:51:20.327
  • And wherever you go in the prophetic passage,
  • 00:51:20.327 --> 00:51:23.230
  • You will find what god wants you to know about that.
  • 00:51:23.230 --> 00:51:26.299
  • For instance, in the 1 john passage it says,
  • 00:51:26.299 --> 00:51:28.602
  • "therefore, what manner of men should we be because of this?"
  • 00:51:28.602 --> 00:51:32.172
  • Sheila: wow.
  • 00:51:32.172 --> 00:51:33.573
  • I imagine so many people who think, "oh gosh,
  • 00:51:33.573 --> 00:51:35.509
  • What i would give to sit down with dr. jeremiah."
  • 00:51:35.509 --> 00:51:38.645
  • So, just let's imagine we allow that to happen.
  • 00:51:38.645 --> 00:51:41.414
  • If somebody was sitting down with you right now
  • 00:51:41.414 --> 00:51:44.384
  • In light of everything that we've discussed,
  • 00:51:44.384 --> 00:51:47.787
  • What would you say to them?
  • 00:51:47.787 --> 00:51:49.422
  • Dr. jeremiah: well i'd ask some questions.
  • 00:51:49.422 --> 00:51:51.091
  • I would ask them, "if the lord jesus christ should come tonight
  • 00:51:51.091 --> 00:51:56.062
  • And catch up all those who put their trust in him,
  • 00:51:56.062 --> 00:51:58.999
  • Would you be in that group?"
  • 00:51:58.999 --> 00:52:01.401
  • In other words, "are you ready to see jesus christ
  • 00:52:01.401 --> 00:52:05.505
  • If he comes back?"
  • 00:52:05.505 --> 00:52:07.140
  • Because if you're not, this is a great time to do that,
  • 00:52:07.140 --> 00:52:11.011
  • To get ready, to receive him as your lord and savior.
  • 00:52:11.011 --> 00:52:13.747
  • The bible says that almighty god loved this world so much
  • 00:52:13.747 --> 00:52:17.184
  • That he sent his own son to this earth
  • 00:52:17.184 --> 00:52:19.653
  • Who went to the cross and paid the penalty for our sin,
  • 00:52:19.653 --> 00:52:24.624
  • The penalty we deserve.
  • 00:52:24.624 --> 00:52:26.126
  • The bible says, "the wages of sin is death."
  • 00:52:26.126 --> 00:52:28.295
  • Somebody had to die
  • 00:52:28.295 --> 00:52:29.930
  • And almighty god sent his son here.
  • 00:52:29.930 --> 00:52:32.499
  • He was god living in a body, and as the son of god,
  • 00:52:32.499 --> 00:52:37.103
  • He went to the cross,
  • 00:52:37.103 --> 00:52:38.438
  • And because his life was infinite,
  • 00:52:38.438 --> 00:52:40.574
  • His death is infinite, and his death was equal
  • 00:52:40.574 --> 00:52:43.543
  • To the death of everyone
  • 00:52:43.543 --> 00:52:45.178
  • Who would ever be on this earth who would put
  • 00:52:45.178 --> 00:52:46.580
  • Their trust in him.
  • 00:52:46.580 --> 00:52:48.014
  • And what that means is one day in my life,
  • 00:52:48.014 --> 00:52:51.218
  • I came to god in prayer and i said,
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  • "god, i know if jesus were to come today
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  • I wouldn't be ready.
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  • I want to receive jesus christ as my savior
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  • And accept what he did on the cross
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  • So that i can become a part of your forever family."
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  • I became a christian that day and everything
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  • In my life changed.
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  • And i've watched and witnessed that happening
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  • To thousands of people.
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  • I get letters from all over the world from people who say,
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  • "i now believe in jesus christ and i'm ready
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  • If jesus comes today."
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  • So, more than anything else, i'm praying that this series
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  • Will open the eyes of people to the reality of who jesus is,
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  • That he has a wonderful plan for our lives
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  • That includes eternity with the father.
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  • I've been so impressed recently of the many verses in the bible
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  • Where jesus says that he wants us to be with him over and over.
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  • I never saw that before.
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  • Almighty god wants us to be with him.
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  • I read somebody said, "if god had a refrigerator,
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  • Your picture would be on it," you know.
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  • And i believe that with all my heart.
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  • God loves us, and god is for us.
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  • And he wants more than anything else, sheila,
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  • For us to be with him forever.
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  • And he's laid out the plan so that we,
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  • Nobody needs to be left out.
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  • No matter what we've done or how far we may feel like we are away
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  • From god, almighty god loves us so much
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  • That he's made the way for us so that we can go to heaven
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  • And spend eternity with him.
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  • I hope that's the message that comes through.
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  • Sheila: dr. jeremiah, everywhere i travel around the country
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  • I hear people tell me how much your life,
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  • The work that you have poured yourself into,
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  • Has touched and changed their lives.
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  • So, i just want to be one voice to say thank you.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: you're welcome.
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  • Sheila, it's--i am more convinced than ever before
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  • Of the great joy that is mine.
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  • I couldn't ask for anything that's more of a privilege
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  • Than i have to be a voice for god in this world,
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  • And i hope i get to do it for a long time.
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