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A Life Beyond Amazing Interview with Dr. David Jeremiah

November 18, 2020

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In this special interview to introduce the series; A Life Beyond Amazing; Dr. Jeremiah shares with Sheila Walsh about the nine decisions that will transform your life.

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A Life Beyond Amazing Interview with Dr. David Jeremiah

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It should matter.
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It should have purpose and,frankly, it should be amazing.
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male announcer: Coming nexttime here on "Turning Point,"
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Dr. David Jeremiah presentsan inspiring series
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that will changethe way you live.
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In "A Life Beyond Amazing:9 Decisions That Will Transform
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Your Life Today," Dr. Jeremiahreveals how we can overcome
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the disarray, defeat,
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and discouragement so commonin today's world.
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And instead,live a life of fulfillment,
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a life beyond amazing.
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Dr. Jeremiah: The life beyondamazing is the kind of life
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that will get you up early inthe morning and keep you up late
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at night if you really getyour arms around it.
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Jesus Christ didn't just diefor us to live in eternity
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with his Father.
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He died so that we would havean abundant life on this earth.
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announcer: You'll learn toclaim the vibrant and victorious
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life God has for you,as Dr. Jeremiah challenges you
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to make nine crucial decisionsstraight from God's Word.
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Join Dr. Jeremiahfor the amazing conversation
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with four noteworthy Christians.
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Pastor and author,Bobby Schuller;
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Christian music artist, Mandisa;Hobby Lobby founder and CEO,
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David Green; andNFL quarterback, Kirk Cousins;
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all of whom exemplifya life beyond amazing.
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Coming up, you will hearabout nine decisions that,
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if followed, will lead you to alife of meaning and fulfillment.
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Decisions for you to make todaythat will transform you
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and the world around you.
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Dr. Jeremiah sat downwith Sheila Walsh
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to be interviewed about theabundant life God has for each
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one of us and what the Biblereveals about how we can live
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a life beyond amazing.
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announcer: Ladies andgentlemen, Bible teacher,
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author, and television host,please welcome Sheila Walsh.
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[audience applauding]
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Sheila Walsh:Hello and welcome.
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Let me ask you a question.
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How would youdescribe your life?
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Good?
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Great?
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How about amazing?
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If you read the New Testament itbecomes very evident that God's
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intention for his children isthat they not only live a good
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and godly lifebut a life full of meaning.
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My good friend,Dr. David Jeremiah,
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is greatly burdenedfor people who live below the
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joy and fulfillment God intends.
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He believes an unfulfilled lifeis no way to exist and it was
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this concern that led him towrite, "A Life Beyond Amazing:
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9 Decisions That Will TransformYour Life Today."
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In his book and subsequentteaching series, he points us
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to Scripture promising us a lifeof blessings beyond our
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comprehension, a life beyondwhat we think might be possible.
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He says a life beyond amazingdoesn't have to start
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when we step into heaven.
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A life beyond amazing canbe lived right here on earth.
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So with that, let's talk toDr. Jeremiah about how we can
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live a life beyond amazing.
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Please join me in welcomingto the stage pastor, author,
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and beloved Bible teacher,Dr. David Jeremiah.
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[audience applauding]
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Dr. Jeremiah: Thank you.That's very nice.
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Thank you.
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Sheila: So in just a sentenceor two can you give us a kind of
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overarching idea of this newbook, "A Life Beyond Amazing"?
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Dr. Jeremiah: If there everwas a time to revisit the
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subject of character, this wouldbe the time because
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that's what's missingin our culture today.
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It seems like every year we seethat almost kind of draining out
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of our countryand it's so necessary.
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So we decided to write a book
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on character and oneof the publishers said,
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"Well, how are we gonna decidewhat to write on?
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I mean, there's a lotin the Bible about character.
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What are we gonna write?
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There's so much."
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And I said, "We'll haveto think about that."
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And we went home and the nextday I realized, "We don't have
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to think about that.
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God's already told us what thenine characteristics of a--
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God's person looks like.
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And when God fills a personwith his Spirit and that person
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is fully controlled by theSpirit of God the Scripture says
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that's what they look like.
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And those nine characteristicsbecame the core of the book.
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Sheila: In your over 50 yearsof ministry, are there certain
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key things that you've seenthat actually enable the body
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of Christ to make genuinetransformation?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well, the onlything I know that does that,
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Sheila, is the Word of Godaccompanied by
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the Spirit of God is what makespeople change.
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Sheila: Now, I lovethe subtitle: "9 Decisions
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That Will Transform Your Life."
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Why did you choosethe word "decisions"?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well,because it really is a decision.
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If you're gonna getinto this thing and really
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get serious about it,you've gotta decide to do it.
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It's not gonna just morphinto your life.
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Doesn't--I mean, if somebody putthe Bible under your pillow at
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night, you don't wake upspiritual the next day.
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Yeah, right.
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It's different than that.
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Sheila: Okay,so let's dive in.
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Nine decisions.
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And the first oneis a life of love.
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And I want to quote a linefrom your book 'cause this
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is so good.
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You write of a teenager whowas asked what she thought love
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was and she answered:"Love is a feeling
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you feel when you feelthat what you feel is a feeling
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you've never felt before."
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[audience laughing]
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That's so profound.
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Dr. Jeremiah: It is, yes.
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Sheila: But honestly, that'sa pretty typical description
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of a lot of our pop culture.
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But how does God's Worddefine a life of love?
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Dr. Jeremiah: That's oneof the great battles.
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I'm glad that's the firstchapter because it sets the tone
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for everything else.
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The whole concept of love iswhat's at stake in our cultural
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discussion today.
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The world says love is somethingthat makes me happy, something
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that fulfills me, something thatmakes it possible for me to get
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my needs met which, by the way,has sort of filtered
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into the church.
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Have you ever heard anybody say,"I'm not going to
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that church anymore 'causeI don't get my needs met"?
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And that's so not whatthe Bible's about, because the
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love of the Bible is not aboutgetting your needs met
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but by the Spirit of Godfilling you up.
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You help to meet the needsof other people.
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And when you getto what love is, really,
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love isn't a feeling.
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Love isn't a feeling.
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Even though that young girlthought it was.
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Love is an action.
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Love is what you do.
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It's not how you feel.
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And, obviously, when you do whatyou're supposed to do, a lot of
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times the feelings will follow.
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But you can't let feelings leadbecause they'll lead you
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in the wrong direction.
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Sheila: What do you thinkhappens when we try
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to love people beforewe understand the love of God?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well,it doesn't work very well,
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and we get into a competition,you know.
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"If you do this for me,I'll do that for you."
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So, we kind of go back and forthand nothing ever gets resolved
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and there's no real senseof love at all.
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Sheila: Okay,I want to move on to chapter 2,
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the decision is "A Life of Joy."
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Now, we live in a culturethat is going through a lot
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of trauma, and I'm wonderingif people think,
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"Is God really joyful?"
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Is that a word youassociate with God?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well, I don'thave to associate it because God
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tells us in his bookthat he's--you know,
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"In his presenceis the fulfillment of joy."
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I know it's really hard forpeople because most of us
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have the idea that God is thissober person sitting up there
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and he never smiles.
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But, you know where joycame from?
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God invented it.
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He gave it to us.
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We're created in his imageand part of the image of God
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is that he's a God of joy.
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So we have to kind of changeour mind about that.
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Sheila: Can you give usa few kind of ideas
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of how you can actuallycultivate an atmosphere of joy?
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Dr. Jeremiah:Joy is a decision we make and
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we can look out at our situationand we can decide
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what we wanna do.
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We can either look at it fromGod's perspective,
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he's in control.
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Nothing ever happens to me thatisn't sifted through his hands.
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Or we can sit there and have alittle pity party for ourselves
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and then despair anddiscouragement descends over us
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so what I can say is this.
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Sometimes we worryso much about what we've lost
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and we forget aboutwhat we have left.
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And that's where joy happens.
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Sheila: Yeah.
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The third decision, I can'tthink of anything more practical
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for the days we're living in.
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It's about "A Life of Peace."
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Peace is a word that's bandiedaround a lot in our culture,
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and it has so manydifferent meanings.
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What is the biblicaldefinition of peace?
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Dr. Jeremiah: I think peaceis best defined by its Hebrew
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counterpart and that is shalom.
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I love that word, "shalom."
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It sounds peaceful, doesn't it?
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And shalom is a veryinteresting word.
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It's mentioned many, many timesin the Old Testament.
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It is the key wordin the Old Testament.
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And it's far more than justthe absence of anxiety.
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That's what some peoplethink peace is.
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It's not what you have.
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It's what you don't have.
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But shalom is muchmore than that.
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Shalom is a peacethat is a totality of peace.
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It's a sense of wellbeing.
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I read something when Iwas working on this project I'd
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never read before or I've nevereven heard this associated
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with peace.
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The writer said,"It's a sense of good morale."
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You have a sense of good moralein your heart.
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You're at peace.
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All is well in your heart.
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Do you know what?
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It's so interesting to me thateven when things aren't
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all good on the outside, ifyou've cultivated relationship
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with Jesus Christ you can havethat peace in your heart.
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Sheila: Beautiful.
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Number four decisionis "A Life of Endurance."
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And you use a word.
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I love this word.
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I haven't heard thisin a long time.
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You talk aboutthe importance of grit.
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I haven't heard that outsidethe context of John Wayne.
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Dr. Jeremiah: I owe thatto the book written
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by Angela Duckworth.
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She wrote a book called "Grit."
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If y'all haven't read it,you should read it.
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I should get something for this.
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This is gonna be on television,advertising her book.
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It is truly, truly one of thegreatest books I read last year.
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It was so much fun.
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And the book is about how youdecide what makes people work.
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Is it their IQ and theirgiftedness, or is it their
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passion and their commitment?
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And, of course, it's noteither/or, it's both/and.
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But the one that is oftenminimized is the idea of just
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staying with it, being gritty,and the idea
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of not ever giving up.
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And the reason I love the bookis there are so many stories in
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there about people who enduredagainst all kinds of odds.
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In Hebrews it sayswe need endurance.
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And I know that we do 'causethis thing we're doing, this
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Christian thing we're doing,is not a 100-yard dash.
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It's a marathon, isn't it?
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Somebody once told methe problem with being
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a Christian is so daily.
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And, you know, isn't that true?
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I mean, that really is true.
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Every day you have to get upand be a Christian.
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Sheila: Yep.
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I think probably oneof my favorite chapters in this
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book is "A Life of Compassion."
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And you retell the story of thegood Samaritan and you talk
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about the fact that Christtold stories a lot.
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Why do you think he toldso many stories?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well,he's the greatest story teller
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in my estimation who ever lived.
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He was a master,and he could do it like...
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He comes across a fig treeand he tells a story
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about a fig tree.
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He doesn't need a script.
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He just told stories.
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And here's what I've learnedabout that, Sheila.
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Why do we like stories?
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I mean, it kills mewhen I preach a doctrinal sermon
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that I think is really deep,and the only thing
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you all remember isthe joke or the story I told
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in the sermon.
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But why is that?
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They bring the truth of God intothe emotional part of our life.
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I had a prof once who said,"Stories are the windows
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into your soul."
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And Jesus knew that,and when he was trying to teach
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a deep and abiding truth,he would tell a story.
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You might not remember whathe said but you never forget
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the story like the prodigal son,and all of those stories.
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And they're rivetedin our hearts.
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One of the reasons I try to workso hard at stories
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is because I believe that.
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I believe that stories maketruth come alive for people.
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And Jesus was the master.
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He was just the master.
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Sheila: I've known the storyof the good Samaritan since
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I was a little girlin Sunday school
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but you say somethingI've never thought of before.
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You say that Jesusis our good Samaritan.
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Dr. Jeremiah: Yes, he is.
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And I believe that whole storyis just a metaphor
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for the Lord Jesus andhis love for us.
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He is the good Samaritan.
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And there are no barriersfor God's love.
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He just--he goes past them and
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no matter what you've done, nomatter who you are or how far
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you may think you have fallenfrom the grace of God, the hand
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of God's grace is longer thananything you can ever do.
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He will never give up on youand the prodigal son, the good
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Samaritan, those are all storiesto help us remember that.
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Sheila: How do guard ourselvesagainst a life
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where we knowall the right answers,
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but we don't necessarily knowhow to love people?
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Sometimes we want peopleto line up.
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If you're gonna be a Christian,here is A, B, C, and D.
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But really it seems likethe whole essence of Scripture
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is not about that,it's about a life of love
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and loving others.
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Dr. Jeremiah: You know,one of the things that I think
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had the greatest impactwhen I was studying love
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a couple years ago,
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we did a thing here calledGod Loves You,
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He Always Has andHe Always Will.
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Remember the whole thingin there
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about how you're supposed tolove your enemies?
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And, you know,we all know that,
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but have you everthought about this?
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The Bible sayslove your enemies,
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and then it tells youhow to do it.
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Do good to them,pray for them,
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and meet their needs.
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Sheila: Wow.
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Dr. Jeremiah:So what is love?
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Love isn't something you feel,it's something you do.
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I think about that also,for instance
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in the book of Revelationwhen the letters are written
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to all the churchesthere,
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and the church of Ephesushad lost its first love.
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What were they instructed to do?Go back and do the first works.
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Love is not about a feeling,love is about what we do.
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How do I love somebodywho's unlovable?
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I just do it.
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I just do the thingsthat I need to do.
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Are they gonna respond?
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That's not the issue becausegenuine love
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is lovethat does not expect a response.
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And so real love is not,"I'll do this for you
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and then you do thisfor me."
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Real love is lovingwithout regard to anything
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coming back your way.
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And when we do that,we enter into the love of God.
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Sheila: In your chapteron "A Life of Generosity,"
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you write somethingthat will be very good news
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to many of us.
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I quote, "Generosityis not what's--about what's
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in your bank accountbut what's in your heart."
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That's good news right there.
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Dr. Jeremiah: It is, yeah,and that's really important
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because otherwise it would onlybe for rich people.
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In fact, the word "generosity"originally was a word that was
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sort of reserved for the elite.
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The word "generosity"comes ultimately from the word
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"genesis" which means beginning.
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So to be generous you hadto have been born well.
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But when Jesus came on thescene, he turned that upside
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down and he honored a woman whowas not only not born well, she
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didn't have two nickels to rubtogether and she put her
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meager offering in the templereceptacle one day and Jesus
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made her so famous we still talkabout her almost every Sunday
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somewhere in the world'cause she was this amazing
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generous woman.
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And there's such a joyin generosity
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And there's so much funyou can have with it too.
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And I wanna bea generous person.
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I want our church to bea generous church.
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I believe it is.
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It's so interesting that thestory in the New Testament about
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generosity is told againstthe backdrop of elitism.
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This woman wasn't elitebut she was generous and that's
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why we can say it's not abouthow much money you have.
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It's about what's in your heart.
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Sheila: So you talk aboutyour background and I think many
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of us can identify with that.
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So has this understandingof generosity, has this been
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a journey for you?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Yes, it has.
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It really has.
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And I hope it never stops.
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Sheila: You talk about"A Life of Integrity."
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And, boy, in our cultureI can't think of something
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that would be more important.
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How do you define integrityand in what ways is God
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the God of integrity?
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Dr. Jeremiah: You know, Iremember reading a book by a guy
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named Stockdale who was aprisoner during the Vietnam war.
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He had a definition of integritythat I wrote down
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but I wrote it in my heartso I would never forget it.
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Here's what he said.
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He said, "Integrity is keepinga commitment after the
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circumstances under whichthe commitment
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was made have changed."
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That is a profound thought.
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Integrity is keepinga commitment after the
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circumstances underwhich the commitment
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was made have changed.
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"Well, I can't staymarried to you.
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I didn't know this."
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No, no, when you make a decisionand you make a commitment,
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that commitment is not gonna bechanged by the circumstances
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that change.
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That's what integrity is.
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Sheila: I love that.
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That is a profound definition.
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Dr. Jeremiah:And isn't God like that?
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Aren't you glad the Bible says:"Even when we're faithless,
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he remains faithful"?
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God doesn't say, "I'm gonna takecare of you until you mess up.
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And when you mess up one time,it's over."
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No, God says, "I love you.
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I'm gonna be with you.
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I will never leave you," and nomatter what we do, he just keeps
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right on loving usbecause he's a God of integrity.
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Sheila: I love that.
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Do you see some thingsthat are common obstacles
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to living a life of integrity?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well, you know,one of the reasons it's hard
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to live a life of integrityis there's no--
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there's no integrity.
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Have you all been listeningto the news this week?
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I mean, every dayyou turn on the news,
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you look at what's going on.
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There is no integrity.
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You don't know if anybody's evertelling the truth
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and they probably aren't.
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And so we have to be who we arein the midst of that
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and we're swimming upstream.
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Can I get a witness?
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I mean, that's really--we'retrying to do what's right, and
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sometimes you look around andyou say, "Well, you know, maybe
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it's not worth it," you know?
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I just think integrityis a very important word.
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It can also be calledfaithfulness, being faithful
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to what we say and always makingsure that our word is our bond.
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Sheila: So, seems a naturalthing to flow into humility.
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Humility isn't always seen asa popular word in our culture.
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It's seen as being weak,
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but that's not how Scripturedefines humility.
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Dr. Jeremiah:No, humility is not weakness.
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Meekness is not weakness.
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Humility is just beingother-centered in the way you
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think, not thinkingabout yourself all the time.
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It's a really hard thing to talkabout because if you talk about
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it, maybe some people thinkyou've mastered it and, once
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you do that, you're not humbleanymore, right?
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But that's true.
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There's a little joke about thisguy who wrote a book called
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"The Ten MostHumble People in the World
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and How I Chose the Other Nine."
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[audience applauding]
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And so this whole thingabout humility is when you're
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with somebody who is humbleyou know it.
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And you also know it whenyou're with somebody who's not.
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We were talking earlier abouthaving a conversation
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with people that isn't aconversation
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but it's a listening experience'cause they do all the talking.
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Humility is actually genuinelycaring about other people
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and entering into who they are,
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and humility ispower under control.
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It is knowing you knowwhat you know
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but not having to tell peopleabout it all the time.
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The Lord Jesus was humble,and the Bible says he could have
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called 10.000 angelsbut he didn't.
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So, you know, I think that'sa lifelong learning process,
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what it means to be humble.
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And I can just say it again.
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When you see it, you know it.
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Sheila: You finishthe nine decisions
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with one on living"A Life of Self-Discipline."
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Why did you tag that oneon at the very end?
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Dr. Jeremiah: Well, becauseit's the last one in the list.
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Sheila: Ask a silly question.
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Dr. Jeremiah:No, I'm just teasing.
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But what--the reasonI did that is because I think
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it's at the end on purpose.
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It's kind of like the gluethat holds all the rest
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of them together.
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And, you know, it's possibleto learn about all of these
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wonderful characteristics thatGod wants us to emulate but if
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we never do anything about it,we're just gonna be smarter
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but not better.
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And so self-discipline means youtake seriously the importance
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of doing the things you knoware gonna make things better
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in these areas of life.
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Sheila: Because we do livein a culture of very quick fixes
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where everything'sbecoming immediate.
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We want to downloadeverything immediately.
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Why is self-disciplineso hard to master?
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Dr. Jeremiah:First of all, the word "self,"
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that's part of it.
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But we are creatures that wannado what we wanna do
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when we wanna do it.
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Sheila: Yeah,we know that when
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there is no self-discipline,life becomes chaotic.
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And some people think,"Well, it's--sounds
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like a lot of hard work."
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But you outline some verypractical benefits of learning
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to live a self-disciplined life.
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Dr. Jeremiah: Most of those,I think, Sheila,
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are from the Proverbs.
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And they, you know, when we'reself-disciplined, we get control
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of our language, our tongue,we get control
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of so many things in our lives.
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And when we don't do that,we're undisciplined.
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As you said, it's very chaotic.
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There are some thingswe just have to do,
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and we have to do them.
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One of the things I've been veryworried about in writing this
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book is that people would thinkthat we can do all of these
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things and develop all of thesequalities in our own strength.
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The Bible says that the fruitof the Spirit
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are these nine things.
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God gives us love, joy, peace,long-suffering, gentleness,
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goodness, meekness.
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All of those thingsare gifts from God.
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But they're giftsthat have to be unwrapped.
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They're giftsthat have to be cultivated.
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And so often Christians havejust said, "Well, you know,
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if I just wait around, Jesuswill make me better and the
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Holy Spirit will make me holy."
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Well, that's not how it works.
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The Holy Spirit has given usall of these wonderful
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characteristics but there issome effort that is necessary
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on the part of each of uswho are believers.
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This book is not sayingif you just work really hard
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you can be loving, joyful.
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No, you have to have the giftsthe Holy Spirit gives you,
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and allow his powerto enable you to do
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these things that we talkabout in the earlier chapters.
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Sheila: As a pastor andsomeone who has studied
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the Word of Godfor so many years,
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what's your best advicefor somebody
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who recognizes they'restruggling in these nine areas?
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Dr. Jeremiah:Well, you start again.
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You know, you have to startwith the end in mind.
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The end is that this is God'spromise to you, that when you
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become a Christian he fills you,he indwells you,
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with his Spirit.
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A lot of Christians I know whohave been in the faith
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for a long timedon't believe that
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or don't know itor maybe don't accept it,
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that there isno such thing as a Christian
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who doesn't havethe Holy Spirit.
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Every Christianhas the Holy Spirit.
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It's one of your birth gifts.
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As soon as you are born into thefamily of God, the Holy Spirit
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comes to dwell in you.
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He doesn't necessarilyhave total control.
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He's the resident and he wantsto be the president.
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But the best thing you can do isto realize you have--
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the Bible says we haveeverything we need
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for life in godliness.
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And then it talks aboutthe precious promises
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of the Word of God.
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As long as you have a desire inyour heart to wanna know God
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better and to love him more,you're on the right path.
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You climb up on yourdissatisfactions
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and find your placein God's love.
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Sheila: That's beautiful.
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Well, Dr. Jeremiah, I just wantto on behalf of our brothers
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and sisters hereand those watching,
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just thank you for the waythat you've continued
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to pour yourlife out onto the page
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and you constantly point us backto Jesus Christ and,
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for that, I thank you.
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Would you help me thankDr. David Jeremiah?
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[audience applauding]
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9 Decisions That Will TransformYour Life Today."
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on "Turning Point."
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As Dr. Jeremiah discussed how wecan live a life beyond amazing,
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the first step to claimingthe life God has for you
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is to believe in Jesus Christas your Lord and Savior.
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If you've never taken that step,you can do that today.
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announcer: Next time on"Turning Point," Dr. Jeremiah
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begins his inspiring series,"A Life Beyond Amazing:
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9 Decisions That Will TransformYour Life Today."
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Dr. Jeremiah: The life beyondamazing is the kind of life
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that will get you upearly in the morning
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and keep you up lateat night
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if you really get your armsaround it.
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Jesus Christ didn't just diefor us to live in eternity
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with his Father.
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He died so that wewould have an abundant life
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on this earth as well.
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announcer: In additionto teaching what the Bible says
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about how to live an abundantand fulfilled life, Dr. Jeremiah
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will sit down with fournoteworthy Christians,
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all of whom he believesexemplify a life beyond amazing.
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Pastor and author,Bobby Schuller;
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Christian music artist, Mandisa;Hobby Lobby founder and CEO,
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David Green; and NFLquarterback, Kirk Cousins.
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Thank youfor being with us today.
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Join Dr. Jeremiahfor "A Life Beyond Amazing:
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9 Decisions That Will TransformYour Life Today,"
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next time hereon "Turning Point."
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♪♪♪
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