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Where Are They Now?

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July 15, 2020
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Learn about the two eternal destinations of mankind from a story Jesus told.

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  • male announcer: For millennia,
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  • humans have looked upinto the sky and wondered
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  • what lies ahead of themin the afterlife.
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  • Our souls innately desirean answer
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  • to what is perhapslife's greatest mystery,
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  • that which awaits uswhen we walk through the door
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  • into the world beyond.
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  • But God doesn't conceal
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  • the details aboutyour eternal resting place.
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  • Look in God's Word
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  • and you'll find a glimpseinto heaven:
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  • streets brighter than gold,God's radiant throne,
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  • and the eternal homeof Jesus Christ.
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  • All the magnificent details
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  • are written in the pagesof Scripture:
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  • what heaven will look like,how your soul will get there,
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  • if you'll be reunitedwith loved ones once you arrive,
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  • and how your bodywill appear for eternity.
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  • That is but just a sliver
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  • of what we can knowabout eternity,
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  • which promises to be a placebeyond your wildest dreams.
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  • All you have to dois open the Bible,
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  • and you'll find that, inside,
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  • God is revealingthe mysteries of heaven.
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  • Now here is your hostand Bible teacher,
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah.
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah:A well-known comedian
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  • is reported to have said,
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  • "I don't haveanything against dying.
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  • I just don't wanna be therewhen it happens."
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  • Well, he will not only be therewhen it happens,
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  • he will be thereafter it happens.
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  • That is, he will be somewhere,and the question is where?
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  • Where do people gowhen they die?
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  • That's the topic we'll exploretoday as we continue our series,
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  • "Revealingthe Mysteries of Heaven."
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  • Some people don't liketo talk about dying
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  • because they don't knowwhat happens after death.
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  • After watching today's messagetitled "Where Are They Now?"
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  • You will knowwhat the Bible says about
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  • the two eternal destinationsof mankind
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  • and how to choosethe one called heaven.
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  • It's straight ahead
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  • on today's editionof "Turning Point."
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  • announcer: We all have questionsabout heaven,
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  • and many of us assumethat we can't know the answers,
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  • but nothing could be furtherfrom the truth.
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  • God's Word is full of detailedinformation about heaven
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  • if we only know where to look.
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  • Inside Dr. Jeremiah's book,
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  • "Revealingthe Mysteries of Heaven,"
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah will lead youthrough God's Word,
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  • uncovering the answersto your pressing questions
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  • about the world beyond,including,
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  • "If you've lost a child,will you be reunited in heaven?"
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  • "How are our soulstransported to heaven?"
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  • and "Where exactlyis it located?"
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  • As you read, you'll discover
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  • that the more you knowabout heaven,
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  • the more you'll live
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  • in the realitythat awaits you every day.
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  • This inspiring book
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  • only from Turning Point.
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  • Contact us today.
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  • female announcer:Thank you for watching
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  • "Revealingthe Mysteries of Heaven,"
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  • here on "Turning Point,"
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  • timeless teachingfrom Dr. David Jeremiah.
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  • We appreciate your viewershipas Turning Point delivers
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  • the unchanging Word of Godto an ever-changing world.
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  • And now here is Dr. Jeremiah
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  • with his message"Where Are They Now?"
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  • Dr. Jeremiah:An Indiana cemetery has
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  • a tombstonemore than 100 years old
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  • with the following epitaphon it.
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  • It goes like this:"Pause, stranger,
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  • when you pass me by.
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  • As you are now, so once was I.
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  • As I am now, so you will be.
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  • Prepare yourself to follow me."
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  • And a young man came along
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  • and wrote a couple of notesbeneath the poem,
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  • and they go like this:"To follow you, I'm not content
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  • until I knowwhich way you went."
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  • That right?
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  • That's a pretty good epitaphright there, isn't it?
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  • Alexander Stewart has saidthat there are two things
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  • most people wanna knowabout their deceased loved ones.
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  • Number one, where are they?
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  • And, number two,how is it going with them?
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  • Where are they now?
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  • That's a question a lot of folkshave asked me
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  • when I've beena grief counselor.
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  • "Where are they now?"
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  • Apparently, there were those
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  • who livedin the New Testament times
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  • who were as just as concernedabout that question as we are.
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  • Do you remember when Paul wroteto the Thessalonian believers?
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  • And he was writing to them
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  • because of the questionsin their minds.
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  • In 1 Thessalonians 4:13,we read these words,
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  • "I do not want youto be ignorant, brethren,
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  • concerning thosewho have fallen asleep,
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  • lest you sorrow as otherswho have no hope."
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  • Now, he wasn't talkin'about them falling asleep
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  • like you fall asleep at night.
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  • "Falling asleep" isa softened term
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  • for a believer's death.
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  • It is used oftenin the Scriptures
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  • to describea Christian who dies.
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  • Now, every time people ask me,"Where are they now?"
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  • the first thingI have to tell 'em is
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  • that obviouslytheir body is asleep.
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  • Their body has died,and their body is in the grave,
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  • and every time wepass a cemetery,
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  • we're reminded of what happensto a person's body
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  • when they die:their body goes in the grave.
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  • That's not the issue.
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  • The issue is aboutthe real person
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  • because we all know
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  • that the bodyisn't the real person.
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  • The body's just the housein which the real person lives.
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  • The body's the shellin which the person resides.
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  • So when this body goes to sleepand goes in the grave,
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  • what happens to the real person?
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  • Well, like in allof the problems that we have,
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  • if we just study the Bible,we can find out.
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  • Only the Word of God can lendauthoritative teaching;
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  • and in today's message,I wanna talk with you
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  • about two people,two places, and two principles,
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  • and we ought to be ableto handle that;
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  • two people, two places,and two principles.
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  • In order for us to get our armsaround this subject,
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  • I want you to join with me
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  • in the reviewingof a passage of Scripture
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  • which most of usare familiar with
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  • in the 16th chapterof the book of Luke.
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  • Here in the 16th chapterof Luke, we have the story
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  • which is usually referred toas "The Rich Man and Lazarus,"
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  • or Lazarus and "Dives,"
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  • which is a Latin wordfor being rich.
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  • As we look at this story,
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  • we're going to see these two menkind of in split screens,
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  • contrasted with each otherin three ways.
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  • We're gonna watch themin their life,
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  • we're gonna see themin their death,
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  • and we're gonna see themafter their death in eternity.
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  • Are you ready for that?All right, now let's watch them.
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  • First of all, we just geta little snapshot
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  • of the rich man and Lazarusin their lifetime.
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  • The two men contrasted in life.
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  • Luke 16:19 through 21,says this:
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  • "There wasa certain rich man
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  • who was clothed in purpleand in fine linen,
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  • and he fared sumptuouslyevery day.
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  • But there was a certain beggarnamed Lazarus,
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  • full of sores,who was laid at his gate,
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  • desiring to be fed
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  • with the crumbs which fellfrom the rich man's table.
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  • Moreover the dogs cameand licked his sores."
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  • So there you have the snapshotof these two men in life:
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  • the rich man with many servants,
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  • Lazarus with only the dogsto care for him.
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  • Two men contrasted in life,
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  • and the curtain comes downon scene one.
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  • The next time we seethese two men is in death.
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  • Two men contrasted in death.
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  • And in verse 22,we read, first of all,
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  • of the death of Lazarus.
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  • Notice what it says: "So it wasthat the beggar Lazarus died,
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  • and he was carried by the angelsinto Abraham's bosom."
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  • It seems from reading the storythat Lazarus died first,
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  • and the rich man died second.
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  • There's no referenceto the burial of Lazarus.
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  • Simply says that he died.
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  • More than likely,his body wasn't buried
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  • because, in those days,
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  • when a poor personwho was a beggar died,
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  • they would either put himin the potter's field,
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  • or more than likely,they would throw him
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  • in a place called Gehenna,
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  • which was a name for the dumpoutside of the city.
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  • So more than likely,Lazarus's body was disposed of,
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  • but the Bible saysLazarus's real self
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  • was carried to Abraham's bosom.
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  • And the death of the rich manin verse 22,
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  • at the end of the verse,is very, very shortly described:
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  • "And the rich man also diedand was buried."
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  • Now, it's not hard to imagine
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  • the lavish funeralof the rich man, is it?
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  • Many eulogies,
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  • but with all of the thingshe had done in his life
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  • and all of the stuffhe had amassed,
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  • he couldn't buyone extra day of life.
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  • Two men in death.
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  • Note the contrast:
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  • one is cast awayas the garbage of the earth,
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  • and the other is lifted upand honored
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  • in a magnificent ceremony,
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  • and the curtain closeson act two.
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  • You still with me?
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  • All right, now we are ableto see something
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  • in these next verses
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  • that you will never see againin the Bible,
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  • and you could not see
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  • except through the eyesof the Lord Jesus,
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  • who is telling this story.
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  • Please hear me.This is not a parable.
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  • This is a real story,
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  • for he told the storyas an eyewitness,
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  • seeing not only their lifeand their death,
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  • but now he's going to show us
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  • what happened to themafter their death.
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  • The story is about to laya foundation
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  • for us to understand
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  • what happenswhen our loved ones die.
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  • The Bible teaches that,
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  • before the ascensionof Jesus Christ,
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  • there was an immediate place
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  • where the souls of men and womenwent at death.
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  • This place is composedof three compartments:
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  • Abraham's bosom;the great gulf fixed;
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  • and Hades,the place of torment.
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  • Now, Abraham's bosom,we are told, is called paradise.
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  • It is the place wherethe righteous dead go.
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  • According to this story,it is a place of comfort.
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  • And verse 25 says that Lazarusis comforted in this place.
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  • When Lazarus dies,his body goes in the grave,
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  • and he goes to paradise.
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  • The Bible saysit's a place of comfort.
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  • It is also a place of loveand companionship
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  • as Lazarus is picturedin the bosom of Abraham.
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  • The angels took Lazarusto paradise
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  • immediately after his death.
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  • When Lazarus died,his body went in the grave
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  • or wherever they put his body,
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  • and his soul and spiritwent to paradise.
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  • The other compartmentat the bottom of the chart
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  • is a place of torment.
  • 00:11:21.253 --> 00:11:23.255
  • It is also called Hades,
  • 00:11:23.289 --> 00:11:25.257
  • and into this place,the souls of the wicked dead go.
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  • The rich man who was
  • 00:11:28.994 --> 00:11:30.296
  • so flamboyant in his life
  • 00:11:30.329 --> 00:11:32.865
  • went to this place,
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  • and it is a representation
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  • of all who failto place their trust in Christ.
  • 00:11:35.701 --> 00:11:38.370
  • He is a picture of what happensto those who die without Christ.
  • 00:11:38.404 --> 00:11:42.141
  • And in between paradiseand Hades,
  • 00:11:42.174 --> 00:11:45.344
  • we are told in the Scripture
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  • that there isa great gulf fixed.
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  • According to Jesus,
  • 00:11:50.182 --> 00:11:51.484
  • there is a chasmbetween these two places
  • 00:11:51.517 --> 00:11:54.086
  • that cannot be crossedunder any circumstances,
  • 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.523
  • and we will come backto our chart in a few moments,
  • 00:11:57.556 --> 00:11:59.725
  • but let's take notice of whatis happening to these two men,
  • 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.895
  • one of whom diedand went to paradise,
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  • and one of whom diedand went to Hades.
  • 00:12:05.097 --> 00:12:07.366
  • Come back to the Bible nowand notice Lazarus in eternity
  • 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.537
  • in verse 22, in Luke 16:22.
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  • "So it was that the beggar died
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  • and was carried by the angelsto Abraham's bosom."
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  • First of all,please notice
  • 00:12:20.946 --> 00:12:22.248
  • that, when the beggar died,
  • 00:12:22.281 --> 00:12:23.816
  • God sent his angelsto take him to paradise.
  • 00:12:23.849 --> 00:12:27.653
  • Not trying to get too technical,
  • 00:12:27.686 --> 00:12:28.988
  • but I want you to stay with mein this logic
  • 00:12:29.021 --> 00:12:30.656
  • so you see where we're goin'.
  • 00:12:30.689 --> 00:12:32.491
  • Lazarus dies.
  • 00:12:32.525 --> 00:12:33.826
  • His body probably wentto potter's field
  • 00:12:33.859 --> 00:12:35.961
  • or Gehenna, to the dump,but that didn't affect his soul.
  • 00:12:35.995 --> 00:12:39.532
  • The angels cameand took a soul and spirit
  • 00:12:39.565 --> 00:12:41.567
  • and took him to Abraham's bosom,paradise, all right?
  • 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.405
  • Now let's look inon our rich man who died,
  • 00:12:46.438 --> 00:12:49.975
  • the rich man in eternity,
  • 00:12:50.009 --> 00:12:51.310
  • and notice what the Biblesays about him.
  • 00:12:51.343 --> 00:12:53.212
  • First of all,he's in a place of misery.
  • 00:12:53.245 --> 00:12:55.648
  • Luke 16:23 and 24,"And being in torments in Hades,
  • 00:12:55.681 --> 00:13:00.386
  • he lifted up his eyes,and he saw Abraham afar off,
  • 00:13:00.419 --> 00:13:03.088
  • and Lazarus in his bosom.
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  • And he cried, and he said,'Father, Abraham,
  • 00:13:04.456 --> 00:13:06.559
  • have mercy on me,and send Lazarus
  • 00:13:06.592 --> 00:13:08.627
  • that he may dipthe tip of his finger in water
  • 00:13:08.661 --> 00:13:11.130
  • and cool my tongue,
  • 00:13:11.163 --> 00:13:12.665
  • for I am tormentedin this flame.'"
  • 00:13:12.698 --> 00:13:14.900
  • Some of you say,"Well, where in the Bible
  • 00:13:14.934 --> 00:13:16.335
  • does it say that when you die,
  • 00:13:16.368 --> 00:13:17.803
  • if you go to hell,there are flames?"
  • 00:13:17.837 --> 00:13:19.438
  • Well, here's a picture of itright here.
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  • In this intermediate place,this man is in torment,
  • 00:13:21.707 --> 00:13:24.076
  • and he is in flames.
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  • The rich man, now watch,is not lost because he is rich
  • 00:13:26.345 --> 00:13:30.015
  • any more than the poor manis saved because he is poor.
  • 00:13:30.049 --> 00:13:33.552
  • Assume in this storythat the rich man
  • 00:13:33.586 --> 00:13:36.288
  • did not believe in Jesus Christ,while Lazarus did,
  • 00:13:36.322 --> 00:13:39.792
  • and because of their faith,their destiny is fixed.
  • 00:13:39.825 --> 00:13:44.463
  • Now, in many respects,
  • 00:13:44.496 --> 00:13:46.031
  • the rich man and Lazarushave changed places.
  • 00:13:46.065 --> 00:13:49.168
  • Watch what happened.
  • 00:13:49.201 --> 00:13:50.502
  • The proud man of time has becomethe beggar in eternity.
  • 00:13:50.536 --> 00:13:54.807
  • The one who, in life,
  • 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:56.141
  • denied the poor mana crumb from his table
  • 00:13:56.175 --> 00:13:58.210
  • is now beggingfor one drop of water.
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  • The one who, in his life,fared sumptuously every day
  • 00:14:01.547 --> 00:14:05.017
  • would now be happy
  • 00:14:05.050 --> 00:14:06.352
  • with just one drop of waterto cool his tongue.
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  • He's in a place of misery.
  • 00:14:09.788 --> 00:14:11.090
  • Notice, secondly,he's in a place of memory.
  • 00:14:11.123 --> 00:14:13.659
  • This is somethingthat's new to a lot of folks.
  • 00:14:13.692 --> 00:14:15.961
  • Luke 16:25,"But Abraham said,
  • 00:14:15.995 --> 00:14:17.796
  • 'Son, rememberthat in your lifetime
  • 00:14:17.830 --> 00:14:20.065
  • you received your good things,
  • 00:14:20.099 --> 00:14:21.700
  • and likewiseLazarus evil things,
  • 00:14:21.734 --> 00:14:24.136
  • but now he is comfortedand you are tormented.'"
  • 00:14:24.169 --> 00:14:27.773
  • Verse 25 indicates that Hadesis a place of memory.
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  • He lifts up his eyes,and he sees Lazarus,
  • 00:14:31.510 --> 00:14:34.546
  • and he is consciousof what he has missed.
  • 00:14:34.580 --> 00:14:37.283
  • And throughout eternity,it will be an instant replay
  • 00:14:37.316 --> 00:14:39.618
  • over and over and over againin his mind
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  • that he had a chancethat he could have accepted,
  • 00:14:41.887 --> 00:14:44.590
  • but he did not.
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  • It is a place of miseryand a place of memory;
  • 00:14:46.525 --> 00:14:49.628
  • but notice, thirdly,it's a place of mourning.
  • 00:14:49.662 --> 00:14:52.865
  • Now, the representativeof the lost who are now in Hades
  • 00:14:52.898 --> 00:14:55.768
  • is this rich man.
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  • He was alive, he was conscious,
  • 00:14:57.603 --> 00:14:59.271
  • he was in full exerciseof his faculties,
  • 00:14:59.305 --> 00:15:01.373
  • his memory,and he's in torment.
  • 00:15:01.407 --> 00:15:04.076
  • Now, I know you didn't cometo hear me talk about that,
  • 00:15:04.109 --> 00:15:06.045
  • but I have to tell you that
  • 00:15:06.078 --> 00:15:07.379
  • so you understandthe rest of the story.
  • 00:15:07.413 --> 00:15:09.615
  • There are two people--now,I want you to notice two places.
  • 00:15:09.648 --> 00:15:13.485
  • Let's notice what happens,and let me take you through
  • 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:15.854
  • the progressionof where they are now.
  • 00:15:15.888 --> 00:15:19.625
  • First of all,an intermediate hell,
  • 00:15:19.658 --> 00:15:22.494
  • a placethat is not ultimately hell,
  • 00:15:22.528 --> 00:15:24.663
  • but it is hellin an intermediate way.
  • 00:15:24.697 --> 00:15:28.467
  • Watch this.
  • 00:15:28.500 --> 00:15:29.802
  • So far as the unsaved deadare concerned,
  • 00:15:29.835 --> 00:15:32.705
  • they continue in this placecalled Hades,
  • 00:15:32.738 --> 00:15:35.574
  • the intermediate hell,
  • 00:15:35.607 --> 00:15:37.710
  • until a particular timein the future.
  • 00:15:37.743 --> 00:15:40.579
  • Now, watch your chart.
  • 00:15:40.612 --> 00:15:42.481
  • At the judgmentof the great white throne,
  • 00:15:42.514 --> 00:15:45.117
  • Hades gives them up,
  • 00:15:45.150 --> 00:15:47.119
  • and they are judged and passedinto the lake of fire.
  • 00:15:47.152 --> 00:15:49.655
  • You say, "Where is that?"
  • 00:15:49.688 --> 00:15:51.023
  • Well, I want you to read with me
  • 00:15:51.056 --> 00:15:52.491
  • Revelation chapter 20,verses 13 and 14:
  • 00:15:52.524 --> 00:15:55.728
  • "And the sea gave upthe dead who were in it,
  • 00:15:55.761 --> 00:15:59.031
  • and Death and Hades delivered upthe dead who were in them.
  • 00:15:59.064 --> 00:16:02.901
  • And they were judged,each one according to his works,
  • 00:16:02.935 --> 00:16:05.871
  • and Death and Hades were castinto the lake of fire.
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  • This is the second death."
  • 00:16:10.309 --> 00:16:12.011
  • Now look up for just a moment.Here's what happens.
  • 00:16:12.044 --> 00:16:14.847
  • When a person dies todayand they don't know Jesus,
  • 00:16:14.880 --> 00:16:20.652
  • their body goes in the grave,
  • 00:16:20.686 --> 00:16:22.921
  • and their soul and spiritgoes to Hades.
  • 00:16:22.955 --> 00:16:25.657
  • One day, after the judgment,
  • 00:16:25.691 --> 00:16:27.993
  • Hades,according to the Scripture,
  • 00:16:28.027 --> 00:16:29.862
  • will be castinto the lake of fire,
  • 00:16:29.895 --> 00:16:32.064
  • which is the permanent hell,
  • 00:16:32.097 --> 00:16:34.400
  • and it's going to bea place where,
  • 00:16:34.433 --> 00:16:37.836
  • as you can seefrom this rich man,
  • 00:16:37.870 --> 00:16:40.672
  • you would never want to go,and you would never want
  • 00:16:40.706 --> 00:16:43.008
  • anyone you loveto go, all right?
  • 00:16:43.042 --> 00:16:46.412
  • The intermediate hell.
  • 00:16:46.445 --> 00:16:47.746
  • Now notice, secondly,
  • 00:16:47.780 --> 00:16:49.281
  • the intermediate heaven,paradise.
  • 00:16:49.314 --> 00:16:51.583
  • Every believer--now, you
  • 00:16:51.617 --> 00:16:52.918
  • have to really think carefullyhere.
  • 00:16:52.951 --> 00:16:54.820
  • Every believer who diedbefore the ascension of Christ
  • 00:16:54.853 --> 00:16:57.756
  • went to paradise;
  • 00:16:57.790 --> 00:16:59.825
  • but when Jesus diedon the cross,
  • 00:16:59.858 --> 00:17:02.094
  • he was buriedand he rose again.
  • 00:17:02.127 --> 00:17:04.730
  • On the day of his ascension,something changed,
  • 00:17:04.763 --> 00:17:07.966
  • and I want you to watch
  • 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:09.301
  • Ephesians chapter 4,verses 8 through 10:
  • 00:17:09.334 --> 00:17:12.237
  • "Therefore he says,'When he ascended on high,
  • 00:17:12.271 --> 00:17:15.774
  • he led captivity captive,and gave gifts to men.'
  • 00:17:15.808 --> 00:17:18.277
  • Now this, 'He ascended.'
  • 00:17:18.310 --> 00:17:19.611
  • What does it mean--that he also first descended
  • 00:17:19.645 --> 00:17:21.980
  • into the lower partsof the earth?
  • 00:17:22.014 --> 00:17:23.949
  • He also descended isthe one who ascended
  • 00:17:23.982 --> 00:17:26.452
  • far above all the heavensthat he might fill all things."
  • 00:17:26.485 --> 00:17:29.254
  • Here's what the Bible says:
  • 00:17:29.288 --> 00:17:30.722
  • When Jesus ascendedafter his death,
  • 00:17:30.756 --> 00:17:33.158
  • he went into the earth,and he led captivity captive.
  • 00:17:33.192 --> 00:17:36.762
  • He went into paradise,
  • 00:17:36.795 --> 00:17:38.163
  • and he took all the peoplewho were in paradise,
  • 00:17:38.197 --> 00:17:40.866
  • and he took them with himup to the third heaven.
  • 00:17:40.899 --> 00:17:44.069
  • Paradise is no longeran intermediate place.
  • 00:17:44.103 --> 00:17:46.572
  • Paradise is with God in heaven.
  • 00:17:46.605 --> 00:17:48.607
  • Jesus took all of thosewho were in paradise,
  • 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.843
  • all the Old Testament saints,all who had died
  • 00:17:50.876 --> 00:17:52.711
  • and believed in Godbefore the ascension.
  • 00:17:52.744 --> 00:17:56.348
  • When Jesus died on the cross,after his death,
  • 00:17:56.381 --> 00:17:58.917
  • he went into paradise.
  • 00:17:58.951 --> 00:18:01.320
  • You say, "How do you knowJesus went to paradise?"
  • 00:18:01.353 --> 00:18:05.657
  • I'm glad you asked me.
  • 00:18:05.691 --> 00:18:08.393
  • Do you remember what he said
  • 00:18:08.427 --> 00:18:09.728
  • to the thief on the crosswhen he died?
  • 00:18:09.761 --> 00:18:12.264
  • What did he say, class?
  • 00:18:12.297 --> 00:18:13.599
  • "Today," Luke 23:43, "today,you will be with me," where?
  • 00:18:13.632 --> 00:18:18.403
  • "In paradise."
  • 00:18:18.437 --> 00:18:20.372
  • "How do you know paradiseis not still where it is?"
  • 00:18:20.405 --> 00:18:23.308
  • Well, I'm glad you asked methat question too.
  • 00:18:23.342 --> 00:18:25.911
  • Let's go back and remember
  • 00:18:25.944 --> 00:18:27.346
  • in 2 Corinthians chapter 12,verses 2 and 4,
  • 00:18:27.379 --> 00:18:31.950
  • do you remember what Paul saidabout his vision?
  • 00:18:31.984 --> 00:18:34.920
  • "I know a man in Christwho 14 years ago--
  • 00:18:34.953 --> 00:18:37.589
  • whether in the bodyI do not know,
  • 00:18:37.623 --> 00:18:39.224
  • or whether out of the bodyI do not know, God knows--
  • 00:18:39.258 --> 00:18:41.994
  • such a one was caught upto the third heaven."
  • 00:18:42.027 --> 00:18:44.229
  • Where's the third heaven, class?It's in the north.
  • 00:18:44.263 --> 00:18:46.365
  • It's where God is, right?All right.
  • 00:18:46.398 --> 00:18:49.134
  • "And I know such a man--
  • 00:18:49.168 --> 00:18:50.469
  • whether in the bodyor out of the body
  • 00:18:50.502 --> 00:18:51.837
  • I do not know, God knows--
  • 00:18:51.870 --> 00:18:53.172
  • how he was caught upinto paradise."
  • 00:18:53.205 --> 00:18:55.440
  • Where is paradise?It's in the third heaven.
  • 00:18:55.474 --> 00:18:57.776
  • How did it get there?
  • 00:18:57.809 --> 00:18:59.111
  • When Jesus ascendedand took paradise captive,
  • 00:18:59.144 --> 00:19:02.447
  • he took it upto the third heaven.
  • 00:19:02.481 --> 00:19:03.916
  • So now where are they?
  • 00:19:03.949 --> 00:19:06.051
  • When a believer dies,
  • 00:19:06.084 --> 00:19:07.786
  • his body goes in the graveand goes to sleep.
  • 00:19:07.819 --> 00:19:10.923
  • His soul doesn't go to sleep.
  • 00:19:10.956 --> 00:19:12.858
  • There's no such thingas soul sleep.
  • 00:19:12.891 --> 00:19:14.960
  • Let me tell you something,friend,
  • 00:19:14.993 --> 00:19:16.295
  • whether you're a Christianor you're not a Christian,
  • 00:19:16.328 --> 00:19:17.729
  • you're gonna be alive somewhereforever and ever.
  • 00:19:17.763 --> 00:19:21.033
  • Your soul does not sleep.
  • 00:19:21.066 --> 00:19:22.401
  • The body sleeps and the souland spirit goes to paradise,
  • 00:19:22.434 --> 00:19:27.139
  • which is in the third heaven.
  • 00:19:27.172 --> 00:19:29.174
  • But in between now and then,
  • 00:19:29.208 --> 00:19:31.076
  • when an Old Testament persondied,
  • 00:19:31.109 --> 00:19:32.578
  • their soul went to Hades,their body went in the grave.
  • 00:19:32.611 --> 00:19:35.113
  • At the great whitethrone judgment,
  • 00:19:35.147 --> 00:19:36.515
  • Hades is castinto the lake of fire,
  • 00:19:36.548 --> 00:19:38.617
  • and forever and ever,there is no hope.
  • 00:19:38.650 --> 00:19:41.353
  • When a believer dies,his body goes in the grave.
  • 00:19:41.386 --> 00:19:43.889
  • He goes to paradise,his soul and spirit,
  • 00:19:43.922 --> 00:19:45.724
  • but God gives himan intermediate body
  • 00:19:45.757 --> 00:19:48.060
  • so that he is not unclothed
  • 00:19:48.093 --> 00:19:49.962
  • between nowand the day of resurrection.
  • 00:19:49.995 --> 00:19:52.130
  • On the day of resurrection,his body comes out of the grave,
  • 00:19:52.164 --> 00:19:54.800
  • and it is,in a moment, transformed
  • 00:19:54.833 --> 00:19:56.735
  • into his permanentheavenly body,
  • 00:19:56.768 --> 00:19:58.670
  • and together,we shall be with the Lord.
  • 00:19:58.704 --> 00:20:02.140
  • I love theologyas you can probably tell,
  • 00:20:02.174 --> 00:20:04.076
  • and when I have somethin'
  • 00:20:04.109 --> 00:20:05.410
  • that I need to findan answer to,
  • 00:20:05.444 --> 00:20:07.079
  • I study and study and studyuntil I find it,
  • 00:20:07.112 --> 00:20:09.281
  • and you knowwhat I've discovered?
  • 00:20:09.314 --> 00:20:10.716
  • I've never had a questionthat I really researched
  • 00:20:10.749 --> 00:20:13.118
  • that I couldn't findthe answer to in the Scripture.
  • 00:20:13.151 --> 00:20:16.021
  • I know now for a fact
  • 00:20:16.054 --> 00:20:18.123
  • what happens to a personwhen they die,
  • 00:20:18.156 --> 00:20:20.726
  • where they go,how they exist,
  • 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:22.561
  • what's goin' on right now.
  • 00:20:22.594 --> 00:20:24.930
  • But all of that,as wonderful as it is,
  • 00:20:24.963 --> 00:20:28.600
  • is not the most important thing.
  • 00:20:28.634 --> 00:20:30.269
  • Let me tell youwhat I've discovered,
  • 00:20:30.302 --> 00:20:32.371
  • and I don't know
  • 00:20:32.404 --> 00:20:35.474
  • if I can tell you thiswithout emotion.
  • 00:20:35.507 --> 00:20:40.412
  • After immersing myselfin all of these passages
  • 00:20:40.445 --> 00:20:44.283
  • about the temporary
  • 00:20:44.316 --> 00:20:45.617
  • and eternal homeof the believer,
  • 00:20:45.651 --> 00:20:48.353
  • one truth jumps outof the Scripture
  • 00:20:48.387 --> 00:20:51.089
  • and into my heart:
  • 00:20:51.123 --> 00:20:52.858
  • paradise and heavenand the New Jerusalem,
  • 00:20:52.891 --> 00:20:55.460
  • and whatever name you may useto describe that place,
  • 00:20:55.494 --> 00:20:58.563
  • is secondary to this:heaven is where Jesus is.
  • 00:20:58.597 --> 00:21:03.302
  • Heaven is being with Jesus.
  • 00:21:03.335 --> 00:21:05.137
  • And over that truth,you need to write a banner
  • 00:21:05.170 --> 00:21:09.441
  • because it is hammeredinto our hearts over and over,
  • 00:21:09.474 --> 00:21:12.444
  • and I bet you haven't seen itas many times as it's there
  • 00:21:12.477 --> 00:21:15.280
  • because it kind of sneaks inat the end of passages,
  • 00:21:15.314 --> 00:21:18.350
  • but let me show youwhat the Scripture says,
  • 00:21:18.383 --> 00:21:20.686
  • and then you will understand.
  • 00:21:20.719 --> 00:21:22.020
  • "Well, I don't knowif I completely comprehend
  • 00:21:22.054 --> 00:21:23.955
  • everything Pastor Jeremiahsaid today
  • 00:21:23.989 --> 00:21:25.724
  • about the intermediate heavenand the permanent heaven,
  • 00:21:25.757 --> 00:21:27.926
  • but one thing I do understandis, when I die,
  • 00:21:27.959 --> 00:21:30.095
  • I'm gonna be with Jesus,"amen?
  • 00:21:30.128 --> 00:21:32.597
  • Watch this, watch this.
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  • John 14:3, "And if I goand prepare a place for you,
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  • I will come again and receiveyou to myself," why?
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  • "That where I am,there you may be also."
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  • Not about the place.It's about the person.
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  • When Jesus gave assuranceto the thief on the cross,
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  • what did he say to him?
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  • He said, "Today youwill be with me in paradise."
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  • Paradise is secondary.
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  • Paul explained deathin these terms.
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  • He said, "We are confident,yes, well pleased rather
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  • to be absentfrom the body--"
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  • not "present in heaven."
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  • "Absent from the body,present with," who?
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  • "The Lord."
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  • When Paul was writingto the Philippians
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  • about his own death,he wrote,
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  • "For I am hard-pressedbetween the two,
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  • having a desire to departand--" go where?
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  • To heaven?No.
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  • "To be with Christ."
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  • Over and over and over,have you ever seen that?
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  • It's not about "heaven" so muchas it is about Jesus.
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  • It's about being with him.
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  • And how many of youagree with me,
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  • "Wherever it is, if he's there,I'm okay," amen?
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  • Wherever he is, wherever it is,
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  • because he's the onewho died for me.
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  • He's the one who saved me.
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  • He's the one who has given melife beyond what I deserve.
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  • And if all youwanna say to me is
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  • "You're goin' to be with Jesus,"that's all right.
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  • Just take me; wherever it is,
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  • just take meto be with Jesus, amen?
  • 00:22:55.881 --> 00:22:58.083
  • Now, I need to knowall these other things.
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  • It's important,but far more important is this:
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  • after going to great lengthsto explain
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  • the details of the rapture,
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  • this same apostle Paul
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  • summarized it allwith these words.
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  • He said, "And wewho are alive and remain
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  • shall be caught up togetherwith him in the clouds
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  • to meet the Lord in the air.
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  • And thus we will always bewith the Lord," amen.
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  • I'm so excited to know
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  • that the Jesus who walks with meevery day,
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  • who I talk with all the time,is one day gonna be with me,
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  • and I'm gonna bewith him permanently
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  • in intimate,personal fellowship.
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  • The priorityof the presence of Jesus--
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  • and one last thingthat I must tell you,
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  • and that's the permanenceof personal decisions.
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  • The Lord Jesus has made itvery clear that we can know him
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  • and spend eternitywith him forever,
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  • but whatever we do,we better do it now
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  • because this isthe day of opportunity.
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  • Today is the day of salvation.
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  • announcer: Dr. Jeremiahwill return in a moment
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  • to close today's programright after this.
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  • announcer: There area lot of myths, rumors,
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  • and conjectureabout heaven,
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  • but what can you believe?
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  • announcer: And nowwith one last word
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  • for today's program,here is Dr. Jeremiah.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Some thingsin life happen
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  • without our choosing them.
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  • For instance, the Bible says wedon't have to choose
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  • to spend eternity in hell.
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  • Because we are sinners,that is our eternal destination
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  • unless we chooseto interrupt that outcome.
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  • How do we choosenot to spend eternity in hell?
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  • By choosingto spend it in heaven
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  • through faith in Jesus Christ.
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  • I hope you have made that choice
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  • and are securein your eternal future,
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  • that you have placedyour faith in Christ alone.
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  • I have two resourcesthat will encourage you
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  • on the way to heaven:
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  • announcer: Next timeon "Turning Point."
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: As we are nowin our current bodies,
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  • we couldn't functionin the realm of heaven,
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  • but God is gonna give usnew real bodies
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  • like the ones we have,
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  • only completely made over,transformed,
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  • and no longer governedby our appetites of the flesh,
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  • but governed nowby the appetites of the Spirit.
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  • announcer: Thank youfor being with us today.
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  • Join us next timefor Dr. Jeremiah's message,
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  • "The UltimateExtreme Make-Over,"
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  • here on "Turning Point."
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  • ♪♪♪
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