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  • THE FIRST QUESTION
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  • I'D LIKE TO ASK IS,
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  • I UNDERSTAND YOU SPEAK ON
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  • THESE TOPICS QUITE OFTEN.
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  • THIS TOPIC OF IDENTITY
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  • IN PARTICULAR.
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  • WHAT WOULD YOU EACH SAY IS
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  • THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION
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  • YOU FIND WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING
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  • TO PEOPLE?
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  • THE MISCONCEPTIONS
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  • THEY HAVE WHEN IT COMES
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  • TO THIS TOPIC OF IDENTITY.
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  • - WELL, I THINK I'LL GO FIRST
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  • GIVE SAM
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  • A MOMENT'S BREATHER HERE.
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  • FIRST [INDISCERNIBLE],
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  • YOU KNOW, WE COVER THE GLOBE.
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  • I WAS IN JAPAN LAST WEEK
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  • AND NOW HERE THIS WEEK.
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  • I SEE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS
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  • THAT ARE RAISED.
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  • OFTENTIMES THEY ARE RAISED
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  • FROM WITHIN THE CONTEXT
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  • OF THEIR CULTURE.
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  • FOR EXAMPLE, IN TOKYO,
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  • THE FIRST QUESTION WAS:
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  • WE ARE A CULTURE OF HARMONY.
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  • HOW CAN THE GOSPEL
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  • REALLY BRING HARMONY HERE
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  • WHEN WE WANT TO NOT LIVE AT ANY
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  • DISSONANCE WITH ANYONE ELSE?
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  • MISCONCEPTION THERE WAS
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  • THAT HARMONY
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  • IS AN EXTERIOR THING.
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  • YOU CAN SOMEHOW LEGISLATE,
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  • YOU CAN CONFORM,
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  • YOU CAN DO THINGS OUTWARDLY.
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  • BUT THEIR FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND
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  • THAT THE DISCORD
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  • IS ACTUALLY WITHIN.
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  • THE GREEKS TRIED
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  • A HARMONIOUS CULTURE.
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  • THE UNITED STATES HAS TRIED
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  • A PLURIBUS UNUM BUT THE FACT
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  • OF THE MATTER IS UNIVERSITIES
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  • WERE CREATED TO FIND UNITY
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  • IN DIVERSITY.
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  • UNIVERSITIES DON'T PROVIDE UNITY
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  • IN DIVERSITY.
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  • THE DISCIPLES ARE NOT CONNECTED
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  • AT ALL.
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  • THE REASON IS WE NEED TO FIND
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  • UNITY IN DIVERSITY WITHIN.
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  • SO THE MISCONCEPTION OFTEN IS
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  • THAT SOMEHOW
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  • THE CHRISTIAN FAITH TAKES YOU
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  • OUT OF REALITY INTO A REALM
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  • OF SOME DREAM WORLD AN IDEALISM
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  • THAT YOU CANNOT REALLY LIVE OUT.
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  • OR IF YOU HAVE DEEP CONVICTIONS
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  • ON CERTAIN MATTERS
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  • BE THEY SEXUAL OR TRUTH-TELLING
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  • OR WHATEVER,
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  • THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE
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  • A NUISANCE IN THIS CULTURE.
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  • YOU ARE GOING TO BE
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  • DICTATING FOR ME WHATEVER
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  • I NEED TO BE DOING.
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  • IT IS A COMPLETE REVERSE.
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  • SAM WAS RIGHT ON.
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  • WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER
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  • THE LIVING CHRIST YOU FIND OUT
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  • NOT ONLY DOES HE CHANGE
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  • WHAT YOU DO BUT HE CHANGES
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  • WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
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  • THAT I THINK IS THE KEY
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  • TO WHAT TRANSFORMATION
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  • IS ALL ABOUT.
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  • SO YES, THE CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW
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  • IS A COUNTER PERSPECTIVE
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  • BUT I THINK WE LOOK UPON IT
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  • AS SOME KIND OF A KILLJOY,
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  • SOME OF A PROBLEM
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  • CREATING WORLDVIEW
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  • AND IT'S GOING TO
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  • JUST BRING MORE
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  • AND MORE PROBLEMS WITHIN
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  • OUR CULTURE.
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  • IT'S NOT SO.
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  • THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW
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  • GIVES YOU THE PROBLEM WITHIN,
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  • HELPS YOU TO CHANGE,
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  • AND TEACHES YOU HOW
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  • TO LIVE COMPASSIONATELY
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  • IN A CULTURE WHERE THERE MAY BE
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  • DISAGREEMENTS WITH
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  • WHAT YOU CHOOSE.
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  • FOR EXAMPLE,
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  • THE PANTHEISTIC WORLDVIEW
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  • BECOMES AN INDIVIDUAL JOURNEY.
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  • YOU ARE SEEKING YOUR NIRVANA.
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  • YOU'RE DOING YOUR MEDITATION.
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  • YOU ARE DOING YOUR REFLECTION.
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  • YOU ARE DOING WHATEVER IT IS
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  • THAT TAKES FOR YOU TO ATTAIN
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  • MOKSHA OR NIRVANA OR WHATEVER.
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  • IT'S A PERSONAL PILGRIMAGE.
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  • THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW
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  • IS NOT JUST A PERSONAL THING.
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  • IT'S A CORPORATE THING.
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  • IT PUTS YOU RIGHT BACK INTO
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  • YOUR CULTURE
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  • AND YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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  • FOR WHEN YOU'RE THE SALT
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  • AND YOU'RE THE LIGHT
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  • YOU ARE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH
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  • THE CULTURE
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  • THAT IS SURROUNDING YOU.
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  • SO TO ME, THE MISCONCEPTION
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  • IS WHAT THE CHRISTIAN WORLD
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  • ENTAILS WHICH IS OFTEN NOT
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  • REALLY WHAT
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  • THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW
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  • IS ALL ABOUT.
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • THAT'S HELPFUL.
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  • SAM, HOW ABOUT YOU?
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • IT'S NICE THAT
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  • I CAN SEE YOU NOW.
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  • IT'S NICE TO --
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  • SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.
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  • I THINK FOR ME
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  • THAT A SIMILAR MISCONCEPTION
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  • IS THAT ACTUALLY IF I GO
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  • IN WITH JESUS
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  • AND START FOLLOWING HIM
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  • I'M GONNA BECOME LESS MYSELF.
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  • ONE OF THE GREAT,
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  • BEAUTIFUL PARADOXES
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  • OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH
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  • IS THAT ACTUALLY THE JESUS
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  • WHO SAYS DENY YOURSELF,
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  • IN THE PLACES
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  • OF DENYING YOURSELF
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  • AND FOLLOWING HIM
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  • YOU BECOME YOURSELF.
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  • YOU BECOME THE YOU
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  • THAT GOD FIRST DESIGNED YOU
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  • TO BE
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  • AND INTENDED FOR YOU TO BE.
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  • SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.
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  • I DON'T KNOW HOW GOD DOES THIS.
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  • BUT IF YOU TAKE A GROUP
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  • OF CHRISTIANS AND YOU MAKE THEM
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  • ALL MORE LIKE JESUS,
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  • THEY WILL BECOME MORE LIKE JESUS
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  • WITHOUT NECESSARILY
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  • BECOMING MORE LIKE EACH OTHER.
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  • BECAUSE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS
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  • OF FOLLOWING JESUS
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  • WE BECOME THE UNIQUE,
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  • SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL SELVES
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  • THAT GOD FIRST INTENDED US
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  • TO BE.
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  • SO FOLLOWING JESUS
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  • DOESN'T DEPLETE YOU.
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  • IT ACTUALLY MAKES YOU
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  • MORE YOU THAN YOU COULD
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  • EVER HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE.
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  • - CAN I ADD ONE MORE FOOTNOTE
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  • TO THAT?
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  • LET ME PUT THIS DOWN.
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  • I DON'T WANNA BE
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  • THE WATER BOY HERE.
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  • SO I'LL PUT THAT DOWN.
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  • SPEAKING FROM GOING BACK
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  • OVER THE YEARS IN MY OWN LIFE
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  • AND NOW WHAT I SEE IN THE YOUNG
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  • ALL THE WAY 12.13, 14,
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  • WHEN THEY COME TO OUR EVENTS.
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  • REBOOT OR REFRESH OR WHATEVER.
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  • THEY HAVE ASSUMED
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  • THAT THERE ARE NO ANSWERS.
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  • THAT IS ONE OF
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  • THE GREATEST MISCONCEPTIONS
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  • WITH WHICH WE COME.
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  • THAT THERE ARE NO ANSWERS.
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  • YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.
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  • THERE ARE NO ANSWERS OUT THERE.
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  • WHEN WE SEE WHAT THE ANSWERS
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  • OF JESUS ACTUALLY ARE THAT
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  • [INDISCERNIBLE] JUSTIFIES
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  • THE QUESTION AND GIVES YOU
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  • THE ANSWER YOU ARE FASCINATED
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  • BY THE FACT THAT
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  • THE ANSWERS ARE REAL.
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  • THEY ARE TANGIBLE.
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  • THEY ARE EXISTENTIALLY FELT.
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  • AND THAT THEY ARE
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  • LOGICALLY COHERENT.
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  • I THINK THE GREATEST JOURNEY
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  • IN LIFE IS BETWEEN
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  • THE HEAD AND THE HEART.
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  • THAT HOW YOU THINK
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  • AND HOW YOU LIVE
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  • AND HOW YOU FEEL.
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  • SO IF ANYONE OF YOU HERE THINKS
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  • THERE ARE NO ANSWERS
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  • I HOPE YOU'LL RECONSIDER THAT.
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  • BECAUSE IN THE ANSWERS
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  • ARE JESUS.
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  • HE RESPECTS BOTH YOUR MIND
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  • AND YOUR HEART.
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  • I THINK THE ANSWERS
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  • ARE VERY REAL
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  • WHETHER IT'S ON ORIGIN
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  • OR MEANING OR MORALITY
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  • OR DESTINY,
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  • THE FOUR BASIC QUESTIONS
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  • OF LIFE.
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  • THE ASSUMPTION OFTEN IS
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  • THERE ARE NO ANSWERS OUT THERE
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  • AND I THINK THE ANSWERS
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  • OF JESUS ARE VERY REAL.
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • THAT'S A GREAT STARTING POINT
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  • COVERING ALREADY
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  • A LOT OF TERRAIN.
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  • WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS
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  • NOW THAT HAVE COME IN.
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  • SO WE'LL ACTUALLY START OVER
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  • HERE ON THE LEFT.
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  • I'M JUST GONNA SAY I'M GONNA
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  • REPEAT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS
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  • THIS EVENING.
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  • WE HAVE A COUPLE TECHNICAL
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  • ISSUES HERE ON THE STAGE
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  • SO I'LL JUST REPEAT
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  • YOUR QUESTION.
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  • BUT DO PLEASE ASK.
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  • - OK.
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  • HI.
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  • SAM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING
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  • YOUR STORY AND WHAT JESUS
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  • DID IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION
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  • OF SEXUALITY CAN BE
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  • SO UNCOMFORTABLE FOR
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  • BOTH PARTIES THAT ARE TALKING.
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  • I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE
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  • YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US
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  • ENGAGING IN CONVERSATIONS
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  • THAT ARE ACTUALLY FRUITFUL?
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  • WHETHER THE PARTY IS CHRISTIAN
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  • AND A NON-CHRISTIAN
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  • OR THERE ARE PEOPLE
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  • WHO IDENTIFY AS GAY, BISEXUAL,
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  • TRANSGENDER, EVEN HERMAPHRODITES
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  • OR ANY OF THAT TYPE.
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  • - GREAT.
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  • THANK YOU.
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  • CORRECT ME
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  • IF I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT.
  • 00:07:19.220 --> 00:07:20.200
  • THE QUESTION IS GIVEN HOW TENSE
  • 00:07:20.200 --> 00:07:22.080
  • THIS SUBJECT IS WHAT
  • 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:24.000
  • RECOMMENDATIONS DO YOU HAVE SAM
  • 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:25.150
  • FOR HAVING
  • 00:07:25.150 --> 00:07:26.240
  • MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.040
  • WITH OTHERS WHO MAYBE SEE
  • 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:28.290
  • THINGS DIFFERENTLY?
  • 00:07:28.290 --> 00:07:29.250
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:07:29.250 --> 00:07:30.160
  • YEP.
  • 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:31.190
  • AND JUST RECOMMENDATIONS
  • 00:07:31.190 --> 00:07:32.170
  • FOR BOTH PARTIES.
  • 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:33.190
  • - THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:07:33.190 --> 00:07:34.110
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:07:34.110 --> 00:07:35.010
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:07:35.010 --> 00:07:35.280
  • YOU'RE CERTAINLY RIGHT.
  • 00:07:35.280 --> 00:07:37.120
  • IT'S A VERY, VERY SENSITIVE
  • 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.160
  • ISSUE TO BE DISCUSSING TODAY.
  • 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.140
  • WE TREAD ON VERY, VERY
  • 00:07:42.140 --> 00:07:43.150
  • SENSITIVE GROUND
  • 00:07:43.150 --> 00:07:44.060
  • WHEN WE START TO DISCUSS
  • 00:07:44.060 --> 00:07:45.060
  • THESE KINDS OF ISSUES.
  • 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:47.070
  • I THINK ONE OF
  • 00:07:47.070 --> 00:07:48.130
  • THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS
  • 00:07:48.130 --> 00:07:49.070
  • WE NEED TO DO IS TO LEARN
  • 00:07:49.070 --> 00:07:50.200
  • TO LISTEN REALLY WELL
  • 00:07:50.200 --> 00:07:53.010
  • AND SO NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS
  • 00:07:53.010 --> 00:07:55.080
  • ABOUT THE PERSON
  • 00:07:55.080 --> 00:07:56.080
  • WHO'S STANDING BEFORE US.
  • 00:07:56.080 --> 00:07:57.220
  • LET THEM GIVE A GOOD ACCOUNT
  • 00:07:57.220 --> 00:08:00.120
  • OF THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING TO US
  • 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.130
  • BEFORE WE TRY TO RESPOND.
  • 00:08:02.130 --> 00:08:04.130
  • SO I KNOW FOR MYSELF
  • 00:08:04.130 --> 00:08:05.090
  • I LOVE LISTENING
  • 00:08:05.090 --> 00:08:07.020
  • TO PEOPLE'S STORIES.
  • 00:08:07.020 --> 00:08:08.060
  • IF SOMEONE IS HAPPY TO SHARE
  • 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:10.270
  • HOW THEY'VE GOT
  • 00:08:10.270 --> 00:08:12.130
  • TO WHERE THEY ARE,
  • 00:08:12.130 --> 00:08:14.030
  • THAT'S ALWAYS
  • 00:08:14.030 --> 00:08:14.270
  • GONNA BE INTERESTING.
  • 00:08:14.270 --> 00:08:15.210
  • BUT IT ALSO HELPS ME TO THINK
  • 00:08:15.210 --> 00:08:17.020
  • OK I CAN BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE
  • 00:08:17.020 --> 00:08:19.010
  • NOW WITH SOME OF THE THINGS
  • 00:08:19.010 --> 00:08:20.170
  • THAT YOU'RE SAYING
  • 00:08:20.170 --> 00:08:21.140
  • AND WHY THESE THINGS
  • 00:08:21.140 --> 00:08:22.150
  • MEAN WHAT THEY DO TO YOU.
  • 00:08:22.150 --> 00:08:23.240
  • IT JUST GIVES ME A SENSE OF
  • 00:08:23.260 --> 00:08:26.260
  • WHERE I MIGHT BEGIN IN TRYING
  • 00:08:26.260 --> 00:08:28.170
  • TO SHARE SOMETHING
  • 00:08:28.170 --> 00:08:30.040
  • OF THE MESSAGE OF JESUS.
  • 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.260
  • SO MY FOUNDATION OF ASSUMPTION
  • 00:08:31.260 --> 00:08:33.260
  • IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE WONDERFUL
  • 00:08:33.260 --> 00:08:36.020
  • FOR ANYONE TO COME
  • 00:08:36.020 --> 00:08:38.000
  • TO KNOW JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.040
  • WHOEVER THEY ARE.
  • 00:08:39.040 --> 00:08:40.040
  • THERE IS NO ONE THAT JESUS
  • 00:08:40.040 --> 00:08:41.280
  • IS NOT GOOD NEWS FOR.
  • 00:08:41.280 --> 00:08:44.160
  • BUT THE MORE
  • 00:08:44.160 --> 00:08:45.080
  • I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE,
  • 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:45.280
  • THE MORE I FEEL LIKE
  • 00:08:45.280 --> 00:08:46.190
  • I KNOW THEM,
  • 00:08:46.190 --> 00:08:48.020
  • THE MORE OF A SENSE
  • 00:08:48.020 --> 00:08:50.020
  • I'LL HAVE OF WHERE
  • 00:08:50.020 --> 00:08:50.260
  • I MIGHT START,
  • 00:08:50.260 --> 00:08:51.190
  • WHERE THAT FIRST STEP TOWARDS
  • 00:08:51.190 --> 00:08:52.220
  • JESUS CHRIST MIGHT BE.
  • 00:08:52.220 --> 00:08:55.170
  • SO LISTENING WELL.
  • 00:08:55.170 --> 00:08:57.180
  • TRYING TO HOLD PEOPLE
  • 00:08:57.180 --> 00:08:58.120
  • IN HIGH REGARD
  • 00:08:58.120 --> 00:08:59.240
  • AND DEEP RESPECT.
  • 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.080
  • WE'VE HEARD IT FROM RAVI
  • 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:02.000
  • THESE EVENING.
  • 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:03.230
  • GOD VALUES
  • 00:09:03.230 --> 00:09:05.040
  • EVERY SINGLE HUMAN LIFE.
  • 00:09:05.040 --> 00:09:07.050
  • SO THERE IS NO EXCUSE
  • 00:09:07.050 --> 00:09:08.050
  • EVER FOR BEING DEMEANING
  • 00:09:08.050 --> 00:09:11.010
  • OR RUDE OR FLIPPANT
  • 00:09:11.010 --> 00:09:12.270
  • WITH SOMEONE PARTICULARLY
  • 00:09:12.270 --> 00:09:14.070
  • WITH ISSUES THAT ARE FELT
  • 00:09:14.070 --> 00:09:15.180
  • - AS WE KNOW THE CULTURE
  • 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.000
  • IS CHANGING ALL AROUND US
  • 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:22.010
  • AND WE'RE DEALING WITH
  • 00:09:22.010 --> 00:09:22.230
  • QUESTIONS AND ISSUES.
  • 00:09:22.230 --> 00:09:24.160
  • MANY TIMES CHRISTIANS
  • 00:09:24.160 --> 00:09:25.040
  • FIND THEMSELVES UNABLE
  • 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:26.020
  • OR ILL-EQUIPPED
  • 00:09:26.020 --> 00:09:26.260
  • TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
  • 00:09:26.260 --> 00:09:28.080
  • A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO RAVI
  • 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.070
  • CAME UP WITH A KIND OF A MATRIX,
  • 00:09:29.070 --> 00:09:31.080
  • IF YOU LIKE, FOR LOOKING AT
  • 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.260
  • BIG QUESTIONS.
  • 00:09:32.260 --> 00:09:33.230
  • ORIGINS, MEANING,
  • 00:09:33.230 --> 00:09:35.130
  • MORALITY, AND DESTINY.
  • 00:09:35.130 --> 00:09:38.100
  • THAT EVERY RELIGION,
  • 00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:39.190
  • EVERY IDEOLOGY IN THE WORLD
  • 00:09:39.190 --> 00:09:40.280
  • HAS TO ANSWER.
  • 00:09:40.280 --> 00:09:42.050
  • SO WHAT THIS CURRICULUM
  • 00:09:42.050 --> 00:09:43.090
  • HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO DO IS
  • 00:09:43.090 --> 00:09:44.170
  • TO TAKE EACH ONE
  • 00:09:44.170 --> 00:09:45.240
  • OF THOSE QUESTIONS,
  • 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:46.170
  • LOOK AT THE QUESTION
  • 00:09:46.170 --> 00:09:47.180
  • AND ALSO LOOK AT
  • 00:09:47.180 --> 00:09:48.090
  • HOW YOU WOULD ANSWER IT.
  • 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:48.290
  • HOW DO DISCUSSIONS FLOW
  • 00:09:48.290 --> 00:09:50.140
  • IN CONVERSATIONS?
  • 00:09:50.140 --> 00:09:51.200
  • HOW DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY ENGAGE
  • 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:52.210
  • THESE QUESTIONS?
  • 00:09:52.210 --> 00:09:53.280
  • HOW DO WE USE THEM TO BRING
  • 00:09:53.280 --> 00:09:54.240
  • THE GOSPEL INTELLIGENTLY
  • 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.140
  • INTO A CONVERSATION?
  • 00:09:56.140 --> 00:09:58.120
  • AND THINK CHRISTIANLY ABOUT LIFE
  • 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.140
  • AND RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS.
  • 00:10:00.140 --> 00:10:02.160
  • SO EVERYDAY QUESTIONS HAS BEEN
  • 00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:03.150
  • DESIGNED USING SOME OF OUR TEAM
  • 00:10:03.150 --> 00:10:05.220
  • TO HELP ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS,
  • 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:07.180
  • ENGAGE WITH THESE ISSUES,
  • 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:09.060
  • AND GIVE A TOOL
  • 00:10:09.060 --> 00:10:10.030
  • THAT I THINK WOULD BE PRACTICAL
  • 00:10:10.030 --> 00:10:11.140
  • TO HELP EQUIP PEOPLE
  • 00:10:11.140 --> 00:10:12.150
  • IN HOW TO SHARE THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:10:12.150 --> 00:10:14.000
  • SO I HOPE YOU'LL GIVE IT
  • 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:14.250
  • SOME SERIOUS THOUGHT
  • 00:10:14.250 --> 00:10:16.010
  • AND I GUARANTEE IT WILL BE
  • 00:10:16.010 --> 00:10:16.270
  • - WHAT IS OUR MESSAGE?
  • 00:10:21.190 --> 00:10:23.290
  • OUR MESSAGE IS VERY CLEAR.
  • 00:10:23.290 --> 00:10:25.290
  • FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD
  • 00:10:25.290 --> 00:10:27.220
  • THAT HE GAVE
  • 00:10:27.220 --> 00:10:29.090
  • HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
  • 00:10:29.090 --> 00:10:31.090
  • THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM
  • 00:10:31.090 --> 00:10:32.050
  • SHOULD NOT PERISH
  • 00:10:32.050 --> 00:10:33.170
  • BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
  • 00:10:33.170 --> 00:10:35.220
  • THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT
  • 00:10:35.220 --> 00:10:37.170
  • WE KNOW WHAT THE MISSION IS.
  • 00:10:37.170 --> 00:10:39.060
  • WE KNOW WHAT THE METHOD IS.
  • 00:10:39.060 --> 00:10:41.260
  • AND WE KNOW WHAT OUR MESSAGE IS.
  • 00:10:41.260 --> 00:10:44.220
  • BUT WITHOUT YOU, WE CAN'T DO IT.
  • 00:10:47.110 --> 00:10:50.110
  • WE WILL LOVE PEOPLE.
  • 00:10:50.110 --> 00:10:52.160
  • WE WILL VALUE AND TREASURE
  • 00:10:52.160 --> 00:10:54.110
  • THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:10:54.110 --> 00:10:56.080
  • WE WILL REMIND THEM
  • 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:57.080
  • IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE LIFE
  • 00:10:57.260 --> 00:11:00.280
  • AND DEFINE REDEMPTION
  • 00:11:00.280 --> 00:11:02.120
  • AND HOPE AND BUILD A SECURE HOME
  • 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.050
  • FOR THE FUTURE.
  • 00:11:05.050 --> 00:11:06.270
  • RZIM WILL KEEP ITS LIGHTS ON
  • 00:11:06.270 --> 00:11:09.080
  • IN A DARK WORLD.
  • 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:12.020
  • WHAT HOPE A LITTLE LIGHT
  • 00:11:12.020 --> 00:11:15.020
  • - RZIM ACADEMY IS RZIM'S
  • 00:11:24.020 --> 00:11:25.030
  • ONLINE LEARNING PLATFORM.
  • 00:11:25.030 --> 00:11:27.280
  • THE BRILLIANT THING ABOUT IT
  • 00:11:27.280 --> 00:11:29.020
  • IS THAT THE ACADEMY ALLOWS
  • 00:11:29.020 --> 00:11:31.140
  • PEOPLE TO LEARN FROM
  • 00:11:31.140 --> 00:11:32.240
  • OUR AMAZING TEAM
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.190
  • OF GLOBAL SPEAKERS
  • 00:11:33.190 --> 00:11:35.150
  • IN THE PARAMETERS
  • 00:11:35.150 --> 00:11:36.090
  • OF THEIR OWN LIVES AND JOBS
  • 00:11:36.090 --> 00:11:37.150
  • AND FAMILIES
  • 00:11:37.150 --> 00:11:38.110
  • AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
  • 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:39.100
  • IT BRINGS TOGETHER PEOPLE
  • 00:11:39.100 --> 00:11:40.080
  • FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:41.110
  • STUDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
  • 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:42.140
  • TO LEARN FROM FELLOW CHRISTIANS
  • 00:11:42.140 --> 00:11:43.240
  • AS THEY ALL COME TOGETHER
  • 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.030
  • AROUND THE CONTENT
  • 00:11:45.030 --> 00:11:46.070
  • AND A LEARNING COMMUNITY
  • 00:11:46.070 --> 00:11:47.040
  • THAT REALLY ENCOURAGES
  • 00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:48.020
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:11:55.010 --> 00:11:55.230
  • I'LL TAKE A QUESTION HERE
  • 00:11:55.230 --> 00:11:56.200
  • ON THIS SIDE NOW.
  • 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:57.180
  • PLEASE.
  • 00:11:57.180 --> 00:11:58.130
  • - HI.
  • 00:11:58.130 --> 00:11:58.290
  • GOOD EVENING.
  • 00:11:58.290 --> 00:12:00.160
  • ONE OF MY DEAR COWORKERS TODAY
  • 00:12:00.160 --> 00:12:02.270
  • WAS SAYING THAT HE RECENTLY
  • 00:12:02.270 --> 00:12:04.200
  • WENT AWAY ON A RETREAT
  • 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.130
  • WHERE HE WAS -- IT WAS LIKE
  • 00:12:07.130 --> 00:12:09.120
  • A BUDDHIST RETREAT
  • 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.220
  • WHERE YOU DON'T TALK
  • 00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:12.160
  • AND YOU'RE EXPERIENCING SILENCE,
  • 00:12:12.160 --> 00:12:14.170
  • NO COMMUNICATION,
  • 00:12:14.170 --> 00:12:15.270
  • FOR I THINK IT WAS LIKE
  • 00:12:15.270 --> 00:12:18.260
  • TEN DAYS.
  • 00:12:18.260 --> 00:12:19.250
  • [INDISCERNIBLE],
  • 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:21.200
  • I'M SORRY IF I'M WRONG.
  • 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.120
  • IF I GOT THE DURATION WRONG.
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.170
  • BUT HE SAID IT WAS LIFE-CHANGING
  • 00:12:24.170 --> 00:12:25.100
  • FOR HIM.
  • 00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:26.020
  • HE MADE A STATEMENT WHICH
  • 00:12:26.020 --> 00:12:27.250
  • I FOUND WAS VERY PROFOUND.
  • 00:12:27.250 --> 00:12:29.270
  • HE SAID IT'S POSSIBLE
  • 00:12:29.270 --> 00:12:31.070
  • TO BE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:12:31.070 --> 00:12:32.170
  • BUT NOT BELIEVE IN GOD.
  • 00:12:32.170 --> 00:12:34.250
  • I JUST WANTED TO KNOW
  • 00:12:34.250 --> 00:12:37.190
  • YOUR THOUGHTS
  • 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:38.150
  • ABOUT A COMMENT LIKE THAT.
  • 00:12:38.150 --> 00:12:40.000
  • - GREAT.
  • 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:41.130
  • SO THE QUESTION IS:
  • 00:12:41.130 --> 00:12:43.260
  • YOUR FRIEND HAS HAD
  • 00:12:43.260 --> 00:12:44.170
  • THIS EXPERIENCE,
  • 00:12:44.170 --> 00:12:45.090
  • WENT ON A BUDDHIST RETREAT,
  • 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:46.090
  • CAME BACK,
  • 00:12:46.090 --> 00:12:48.170
  • HAD A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE
  • 00:12:48.170 --> 00:12:49.180
  • AND CAME AND SAID TO YOU
  • 00:12:49.180 --> 00:12:50.100
  • THERE IS A WAY TO BE
  • 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:52.030
  • SPIRITUAL WITHOUT GOD
  • 00:12:52.030 --> 00:12:54.060
  • AND YOU ASKED RAVI
  • 00:12:54.060 --> 00:12:55.180
  • WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
  • 00:12:55.180 --> 00:12:57.260
  • - WHAT IS THE WORD ON THAT?
  • 00:12:57.260 --> 00:12:59.020
  • - WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
  • 00:12:59.020 --> 00:12:59.270
  • ON SOMEONE WHO SAYS THERE
  • 00:12:59.270 --> 00:13:00.270
  • IS A WAY TO BE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:13:00.270 --> 00:13:01.270
  • WITHOUT GOD?
  • 00:13:01.270 --> 00:13:03.080
  • - YEP.
  • 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:04.080
  • YEAH.
  • 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:05.240
  • I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA
  • 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.260
  • OF SILENCE, SOLITUDE,
  • 00:13:07.260 --> 00:13:10.090
  • MEDITATION, THAT WAS
  • 00:13:10.090 --> 00:13:12.000
  • THE WHOLE POINT
  • 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:12.230
  • OF GAUTAMA BUDDHA'S RETREAT.
  • 00:13:13.050 --> 00:13:16.050
  • THE DAY HIS SON WAS BORN
  • 00:13:16.050 --> 00:13:17.190
  • HE LEFT HIS FAMILY
  • 00:13:17.190 --> 00:13:19.160
  • AND HE WENT AND SAT
  • 00:13:19.160 --> 00:13:20.190
  • UNDER THE BODHI TREE.
  • 00:13:20.190 --> 00:13:22.210
  • WHEN HE RECEIVED
  • 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:24.040
  • THE ENLIGHTENMENT
  • 00:13:24.040 --> 00:13:25.150
  • HE CAME WITH HIS
  • 00:13:25.150 --> 00:13:26.070
  • FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS
  • 00:13:26.070 --> 00:13:27.020
  • AND THE EIGHTFOLD PATH
  • 00:13:27.020 --> 00:13:28.070
  • AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
  • 00:13:28.070 --> 00:13:29.220
  • I THINK THE DANGER OF THIS IN,
  • 00:13:29.220 --> 00:13:32.010
  • TAKING THE FINGER
  • 00:13:32.010 --> 00:13:33.200
  • OF ONE ASPECT OF REALITY,
  • 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.120
  • YOU THINK YOU'VE GRABBED
  • 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:38.290
  • THE WHOLE FIST OF REALITY.
  • 00:13:38.290 --> 00:13:41.030
  • IT'S NOT SO.
  • 00:13:41.030 --> 00:13:42.190
  • SILENCE AND REFLECTION
  • 00:13:42.190 --> 00:13:44.220
  • AND MEDITATION
  • 00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:46.010
  • ARE WONDERFUL THINGS
  • 00:13:46.010 --> 00:13:47.140
  • TO ENDURE IN OUR LIVES.
  • 00:13:47.140 --> 00:13:49.260
  • I'M ALWAYS FASCINATED WITH WHAT
  • 00:13:49.260 --> 00:13:51.280
  • WAS GOING ON IN PAUL'S LIFE
  • 00:13:51.280 --> 00:13:54.090
  • FOR THE THREE YEARS
  • 00:13:54.090 --> 00:13:56.070
  • WHEN HE WAS IN ARABIA.
  • 00:13:56.070 --> 00:13:58.140
  • WHAT WAS GOING ON IN MOSES' LIFE
  • 00:13:58.140 --> 00:14:00.270
  • FOR THOSE FORTY YEARS
  • 00:14:00.270 --> 00:14:02.120
  • WHILE GOD WAS POURING HIMSELF
  • 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:03.070
  • INTO HIM?
  • 00:14:03.070 --> 00:14:05.010
  • OUR LORD HIMSELF,
  • 00:14:05.010 --> 00:14:05.260
  • MANY OF THE EARLY YEARS
  • 00:14:05.260 --> 00:14:07.130
  • WE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT
  • 00:14:07.130 --> 00:14:10.000
  • AND I FRANKLY IT IS WHAT
  • 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.290
  • GOD POURS INTO OUR OWN HEARTS
  • 00:14:11.290 --> 00:14:14.130
  • IN PRIVACY AND IN QUIETNESS
  • 00:14:14.130 --> 00:14:15.290
  • AND IN REFLECTION
  • 00:14:15.290 --> 00:14:17.110
  • AND MEDITATION.
  • 00:14:17.110 --> 00:14:18.200
  • BUT TO COME AWAY FROM THERE
  • 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.270
  • THINKING THEREFORE THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:14:20.270 --> 00:14:22.040
  • OBTAIN SPIRITUALITY
  • 00:14:22.040 --> 00:14:23.230
  • WITHOUT GOD BOTH OF THOSE TERMS
  • 00:14:23.230 --> 00:14:25.130
  • ARE UNDEFINED.
  • 00:14:25.130 --> 00:14:27.110
  • WHAT DOES IT MEAN SPIRITUALITY?
  • 00:14:27.140 --> 00:14:30.140
  • DOES IT MEAN YOU FEEL GOOD
  • 00:14:30.140 --> 00:14:31.240
  • ABOUT YOURSELF?
  • 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.040
  • DOES IT MEAN YOU NOW CAN THINK
  • 00:14:33.040 --> 00:14:34.250
  • IN TERMS OF ETHICS
  • 00:14:34.250 --> 00:14:36.100
  • AND SOME SUBLIME THOUGHTS?
  • 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.240
  • ARE YOU ABLE TO WRITE
  • 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:40.290
  • MORE BEAUTIFUL POETRY?
  • 00:14:40.290 --> 00:14:43.010
  • OR WHAT IS IT?
  • 00:14:43.010 --> 00:14:44.000
  • AND HOW DOES ONE ARRIVE
  • 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:45.020
  • AT DENYING GOD
  • 00:14:45.020 --> 00:14:47.020
  • AND STILL FINDING GROUND
  • 00:14:47.020 --> 00:14:49.000
  • IN THE BASIS
  • 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.150
  • FOR ETHICAL BEHAVIOR
  • 00:14:51.190 --> 00:14:54.190
  • AND THE IMPERATIVES?
  • 00:14:54.190 --> 00:14:57.000
  • YOU SEE?
  • 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:58.220
  • THE PROBLEM WITH THE RELIGIONS
  • 00:14:58.220 --> 00:15:01.040
  • THAT TRY TO BE ETHICAL
  • 00:15:01.040 --> 00:15:03.000
  • WITHOUT GOD IS THE FACT THAT
  • 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.260
  • YOU ULTIMATELY END UP
  • 00:15:04.260 --> 00:15:07.210
  • CONTRADICTING YOURSELF
  • 00:15:07.210 --> 00:15:09.190
  • SYSTEMICALLY.
  • 00:15:09.190 --> 00:15:11.110
  • I WAS TALKING WITH A PH. D.
  • 00:15:11.110 --> 00:15:13.080
  • FROM MCMASTER, A WOMAN.
  • 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:15.220
  • THAILAND'S FIRST ORDAINED MONK,
  • 00:15:15.220 --> 00:15:17.140
  • A WOMAN, GOT HER DOCTORAL
  • 00:15:17.140 --> 00:15:20.070
  • FROM MCMASTER UNIVERSITY HERE
  • 00:15:20.070 --> 00:15:22.260
  • AND THEN BECAME ORDAINED
  • 00:15:22.260 --> 00:15:24.040
  • IN SRI LANKA
  • 00:15:24.040 --> 00:15:25.200
  • AND WAS LIVING IN THAILAND.
  • 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.160
  • I HAD ABOUT THREE HOURS WITH HER
  • 00:15:27.160 --> 00:15:29.200
  • WHEN I WROTE MY BOOK
  • 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:30.150
  • "THE LOTUS AND THE CROSS:
  • 00:15:30.150 --> 00:15:31.270
  • JESUS TALKS TO BUDDHA".
  • 00:15:31.270 --> 00:15:34.010
  • I ASKED HER WHO IS
  • 00:15:34.010 --> 00:15:35.130
  • THE BEST EXPRESSION OF NIRVANA
  • 00:15:35.130 --> 00:15:37.200
  • IN YOUR WAY OF THINKING?
  • 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.140
  • WHO HAS ATTAINED THAT NIRVANA
  • 00:15:39.140 --> 00:15:42.020
  • OR WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:15:42.020 --> 00:15:44.120
  • IN THE EIGHTFOLD PATH
  • 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.020
  • OR THE FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS?
  • 00:15:46.020 --> 00:15:47.210
  • SHE SAID I WOULD SAY IT IS
  • 00:15:47.210 --> 00:15:49.060
  • THE DALAI LAMA.
  • 00:15:49.060 --> 00:15:50.160
  • THE DALAI LAMA
  • 00:15:50.160 --> 00:15:51.240
  • IS THE BEST EXEMPLAR
  • 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:52.200
  • OF WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.240
  • SO I SAID BUT IN YOUR PHILOSOPHY
  • 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.240
  • TO DESIRE SOMETHING
  • 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.190
  • IS SHORT OF NIRVANA.
  • 00:15:58.190 --> 00:16:01.070
  • THE GOAL IS TO NOT EVEN DESIRE.
  • 00:16:01.070 --> 00:16:03.190
  • THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT NIRVANA IS.
  • 00:16:03.190 --> 00:16:05.010
  • YOU CEASE TO EVEN WILL OR WANT.
  • 00:16:05.010 --> 00:16:07.120
  • SHE SAID THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.140
  • I SAID CAN YOU TELL ME WHY
  • 00:16:09.140 --> 00:16:10.100
  • HE DESIRES THE LIBERATION
  • 00:16:10.100 --> 00:16:11.190
  • OF TIBET?
  • 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.000
  • SHE JUST LOOKED AT ME SHE SAID
  • 00:16:17.210 --> 00:16:20.210
  • CAN I SAY THAT HE CHOOSES TO?
  • 00:16:21.010 --> 00:16:24.010
  • SO I SAID YOU ARE TELLING ME
  • 00:16:24.010 --> 00:16:25.040
  • THAT HE IS CHOOSING
  • 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:26.060
  • TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS HURTFUL
  • 00:16:26.060 --> 00:16:27.080
  • FOR HIS JOURNEY
  • 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:28.140
  • TO ULTIMATE SPIRITUAL NIRVANA
  • 00:16:28.140 --> 00:16:30.120
  • OR MOKSHA OR WHATEVER.
  • 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:31.290
  • SHE SAID WE DON'T THINK OF
  • 00:16:31.290 --> 00:16:32.250
  • THOSE QUESTIONS.
  • 00:16:32.250 --> 00:16:35.140
  • SO THEN I SAID
  • 00:16:35.140 --> 00:16:36.040
  • IN THE SECOND ASPECT
  • 00:16:36.040 --> 00:16:37.010
  • OF YOUR PHILOSOPHY
  • 00:16:37.010 --> 00:16:37.210
  • EVERY BIRTH IS A REBIRTH?
  • 00:16:37.210 --> 00:16:38.200
  • THAT'S RIGHT?
  • 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:39.130
  • SHE SAID YES.
  • 00:16:39.130 --> 00:16:40.200
  • THERE'S A REINCARNATION.
  • 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:41.260
  • I SAID STARTING BACK FROM NOW
  • 00:16:41.260 --> 00:16:43.190
  • YOU MOVE BACKWARDS.
  • 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:44.170
  • YOU HAD A FINITE NUMBER
  • 00:16:44.170 --> 00:16:45.290
  • OF REBIRTHS.
  • 00:16:45.290 --> 00:16:47.170
  • IF YOU START FROM NOW
  • 00:16:47.170 --> 00:16:48.220
  • AND MOVE BACKWARDS
  • 00:16:48.220 --> 00:16:49.170
  • YOU HAD A FINITE NUMBER.
  • 00:16:49.170 --> 00:16:51.160
  • SHE SAID I AGREE.
  • 00:16:51.160 --> 00:16:53.170
  • BUT IF EVERY BIRTH IS A REBIRTH
  • 00:16:53.170 --> 00:16:54.180
  • THEN THERE HAD TO BE
  • 00:16:54.180 --> 00:16:55.120
  • A FIRST BIRTH.
  • 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.260
  • IF YOU'VE GOT A FINITE NUMBER.
  • 00:16:56.260 --> 00:16:59.210
  • IN THE FIRST BIRTH,
  • 00:16:59.210 --> 00:17:00.220
  • WHAT WAS IT YOU WERE PAYING FOR
  • 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:02.120
  • BY WAY OF YOUR KARMA
  • 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:04.080
  • IF YOU HADN'T HAD
  • 00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:05.000
  • A PREVIOUS BIRTH?
  • 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.010
  • SHE SAYS I JUST TOLD YOU
  • 00:17:07.010 --> 00:17:09.050
  • WE DON'T ASK SUCH QUESTIONS.
  • 00:17:11.230 --> 00:17:14.230
  • THERE ARE SO MANY
  • 00:17:14.230 --> 00:17:15.170
  • UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
  • 00:17:15.170 --> 00:17:16.090
  • IN THIS IDEA OF SPIRITUALITY
  • 00:17:16.090 --> 00:17:17.200
  • WITHOUT GOD.
  • 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.110
  • WHERE DO YOU GET
  • 00:17:19.110 --> 00:17:20.020
  • YOUR ESSENCE FROM?
  • 00:17:20.020 --> 00:17:21.050
  • WHERE DO YOU GET
  • 00:17:21.050 --> 00:17:22.060
  • YOUR DIRECTIVES FROM?
  • 00:17:22.060 --> 00:17:23.170
  • WHERE DO YOU GET
  • 00:17:23.170 --> 00:17:24.080
  • MORAL REASONING FROM?
  • 00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:26.070
  • I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE PEOPLE
  • 00:17:26.070 --> 00:17:27.180
  • WHO GO INTO SILENCE
  • 00:17:27.180 --> 00:17:29.260
  • AND MEDITATION
  • 00:17:29.260 --> 00:17:32.150
  • AND THEY COME BACK THINKING
  • 00:17:32.150 --> 00:17:33.280
  • ALL RELIGIONS ARE RIGHT.
  • 00:17:33.280 --> 00:17:35.230
  • SOMEBODY ELSE COMES BACK
  • 00:17:35.230 --> 00:17:37.140
  • THINKING ALL RELIGIONS
  • 00:17:37.140 --> 00:17:38.150
  • ARE WRONG.
  • 00:17:38.150 --> 00:17:39.250
  • SOMEONE ELSE GOES INTO SILENCE
  • 00:17:39.250 --> 00:17:40.170
  • AND COMES BACK THINKING
  • 00:17:40.170 --> 00:17:41.280
  • EVERYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH ME
  • 00:17:41.280 --> 00:17:43.140
  • I NEED TO GET RID OF.
  • 00:17:43.140 --> 00:17:45.190
  • THIS IS THE KIND OF THING
  • 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:47.020
  • YOU HAVE WHEN
  • 00:17:47.020 --> 00:17:48.040
  • YOU ARE SELF-REFLECTIVE
  • 00:17:48.040 --> 00:17:48.260
  • OF YOUR VALUES.
  • 00:17:48.260 --> 00:17:50.010
  • SO THE FIRST THING LET ME SAY
  • 00:17:50.010 --> 00:17:51.130
  • TO THE PERSON I AFFIRM
  • 00:17:51.130 --> 00:17:52.190
  • THE DESIRE TO GO
  • 00:17:52.190 --> 00:17:53.140
  • AND HAVE THAT SILENCE.
  • 00:17:53.140 --> 00:17:55.000
  • I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
  • 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.100
  • SOME OF US NEED TO LEARN THAT.
  • 00:17:56.110 --> 00:17:59.110
  • BUT THE WHOLE POINT
  • 00:17:59.110 --> 00:18:00.130
  • OF OPENING YOUR MOUTH
  • 00:18:00.130 --> 00:18:01.180
  • IS FOR SOMETHING TO FILL IT,
  • 00:18:01.180 --> 00:18:03.020
  • NOT TO LEAVE IT EMPTY.
  • 00:18:03.020 --> 00:18:05.170
  • IF YOU COME BACK FROM
  • 00:18:05.170 --> 00:18:06.110
  • A MEDITATIVE PROCESS
  • 00:18:06.110 --> 00:18:09.040
  • TOTALLY EMPTY EXCEPT
  • 00:18:09.040 --> 00:18:09.240
  • FULL OF WHAT YOU WANT
  • 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:10.160
  • TO THINK ABOUT,
  • 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.070
  • YOU WILL RUN DRY.
  • 00:18:11.070 --> 00:18:13.000
  • SOONER OR LATER YOU NEED
  • 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.230
  • AN INPUT OF IDEAS
  • 00:18:14.230 --> 00:18:16.130
  • OR THERE WILL BE A BANKRUPTCY
  • 00:18:16.130 --> 00:18:18.040
  • OF EXPRESSION AS WELL.
  • 00:18:18.040 --> 00:18:20.180
  • WHEN GOD TELLS US
  • 00:18:20.180 --> 00:18:22.110
  • THAT WE ARE CREATED
  • 00:18:22.110 --> 00:18:23.010
  • IN HIS IMAGE
  • 00:18:23.010 --> 00:18:23.230
  • THAT IS THE BEST COMPLIMENT
  • 00:18:23.230 --> 00:18:25.210
  • HE HAS EVER GIVEN TO US.
  • 00:18:25.210 --> 00:18:27.180
  • THERE'S A SONG IN HINDI.
  • 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:29.090
  • [SPEAKING HINDU].
  • 00:18:31.050 --> 00:18:34.050
  • THOSE WHO SPEAK HINDU WOULD HAVE
  • 00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:35.150
  • UNDERSTOOD THAT.
  • 00:18:35.150 --> 00:18:36.250
  • WHAT IT SAYS IS THIS.
  • 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:37.180
  • I'M NOT GOD.
  • 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:38.180
  • I'M NOT SATAN.
  • 00:18:38.180 --> 00:18:41.180
  • I AM MERELY A HUMAN BEING.
  • 00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:43.180
  • IF A PERSON GOES AWAY
  • 00:18:43.180 --> 00:18:44.160
  • ON A SILENT RETREAT
  • 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.000
  • AND COMES BACK THINKING
  • 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:46.270
  • THEY DON'T NEED GOD
  • 00:18:46.270 --> 00:18:48.000
  • THEY'VE ACTUALLY BECOME GOD
  • 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.030
  • WHICH IS THE WORST KIND
  • 00:18:49.030 --> 00:18:49.280
  • OF DELUSION
  • 00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:50.190
  • ANYBODY CAN ULTIMATELY HAVE.
  • 00:18:50.190 --> 00:18:52.010
  • WE NEED TO CAST OUR CARES
  • 00:18:52.010 --> 00:18:54.030
  • AND OUR LIVES ON GOD.
  • 00:18:57.100 --> 00:19:00.120
  • - I THANK YOU, RAVI.
  • 00:19:00.120 --> 00:19:02.150
  • WE'RE MOVING TO THIS SIDE NOW.
  • 00:19:02.150 --> 00:19:03.250
  • PLEASE.
  • 00:19:03.250 --> 00:19:04.170
  • OUR NEXT QUESTION.
  • 00:19:04.170 --> 00:19:05.100
  • - THANK YOU, MR. ZACHARIAS,
  • 00:19:05.100 --> 00:19:06.170
  • FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
  • 00:19:06.170 --> 00:19:07.190
  • A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
  • 00:19:07.190 --> 00:19:10.160
  • THAT LAST TIME WAS AT
  • 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:11.100
  • PURDY DINING HALL
  • 00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:12.020
  • AT CAMP-OF-THE-WOODS.
  • 00:19:12.020 --> 00:19:13.230
  • THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO MEET.
  • 00:19:13.230 --> 00:19:15.270
  • - OK.
  • 00:19:15.270 --> 00:19:17.200
  • - THE CONCEPT OR WHAT IT MEANS
  • 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:20.140
  • TO BE MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD
  • 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:22.010
  • CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT
  • 00:19:22.010 --> 00:19:23.050
  • TO UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:24.250
  • IT SEEMS LIKE BIBLE SCHOLARS
  • 00:19:24.250 --> 00:19:26.100
  • THEMSELVES HAVE REALLY STRUGGLED
  • 00:19:26.100 --> 00:19:27.080
  • WITH THAT.
  • 00:19:27.080 --> 00:19:28.230
  • THIS LIKENESS, THIS RESEMBLANCE,
  • 00:19:28.230 --> 00:19:31.020
  • THAT WE SHARE WITH GOD
  • 00:19:31.020 --> 00:19:33.180
  • SEEMS TO BE ROOTED
  • 00:19:33.180 --> 00:19:34.180
  • IN OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND,
  • 00:19:34.180 --> 00:19:37.150
  • TO REASON, AND TO BE RELATIONAL.
  • 00:19:38.030 --> 00:19:41.030
  • BUT I WONDERED IF YOU COULD
  • 00:19:41.030 --> 00:19:42.040
  • UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:42.280
  • MORE FOR US?
  • 00:19:42.280 --> 00:19:44.030
  • - GREAT.
  • 00:19:44.030 --> 00:19:45.070
  • THE QUESTION IS UNPACKING
  • 00:19:45.070 --> 00:19:46.050
  • WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE MADE
  • 00:19:46.050 --> 00:19:47.060
  • IN THE IMAGE OF GOD?
  • 00:19:47.060 --> 00:19:48.250
  • YOU MENTIONED
  • 00:19:48.250 --> 00:19:49.270
  • A RELATIONAL ASPECT
  • 00:19:49.270 --> 00:19:50.180
  • BUT REALLY COULD WE GO DEEPER?
  • 00:19:50.180 --> 00:19:52.010
  • WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN
  • 00:19:52.010 --> 00:19:52.200
  • TO BE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE?
  • 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.290
  • - YOU WANTED ME TO GO FOR THAT?
  • 00:19:55.020 --> 00:19:58.020
  • OK.
  • 00:19:58.020 --> 00:19:59.020
  • ALRIGHT.
  • 00:19:59.020 --> 00:19:59.180
  • I'LL BE HAPPY TO.
  • 00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:00.190
  • SAM, PLEASE FILL IN TOO.
  • 00:20:00.190 --> 00:20:02.060
  • I THINK THIS IS SUCH
  • 00:20:02.060 --> 00:20:03.080
  • A PROFOUND QUESTION.
  • 00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:04.180
  • YOU KNOW, IN MARK 12 THERE ARE
  • 00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:06.160
  • THESE TWO CONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.030
  • THIS MAN COMES TO JESUS
  • 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.240
  • AND SAY IS IT ALRIGHT
  • 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:12.190
  • TO PAY TAXES TO CEASAR?
  • 00:20:12.190 --> 00:20:14.160
  • MANY, MANY TIMES I WISHED JESUS
  • 00:20:14.270 --> 00:20:17.270
  • HAD SAID NO I DON'T HAVE TO
  • 00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:21.050
  • PAY TAXES TO CEASAR.
  • 00:20:21.050 --> 00:20:22.220
  • THAT WOULD BE JUST
  • 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:23.160
  • ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL FOR US
  • 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:24.230
  • IN AMERICA WHEN APRIL 15TH
  • 00:20:24.230 --> 00:20:25.230
  • COMES TO BE BOTH RELIGIOUS
  • 00:20:25.230 --> 00:20:28.080
  • AND REBELLIOUS AT THE SAME TIME.
  • 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:29.280
  • BE WONDERFUL.
  • 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:31.010
  • BUT JESUS' ANSWER WAS FABULOUS.
  • 00:20:31.010 --> 00:20:33.060
  • HE LOOKED AT HIM
  • 00:20:33.060 --> 00:20:34.110
  • AND HE SAID DO YOU HAVE A COIN?
  • 00:20:34.110 --> 00:20:36.000
  • AND THE MAN SAID YES.
  • 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.250
  • HE SAID GIVE IT TO ME.
  • 00:20:37.250 --> 00:20:39.030
  • SO JESUS LOOKED AT THE COIN
  • 00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:41.100
  • AND SAID WHOSE IMAGE IS ON THIS?
  • 00:20:41.100 --> 00:20:42.280
  • HE SAID CAESAR.
  • 00:20:42.280 --> 00:20:44.110
  • HE SAYS GIVE TO CAESAR
  • 00:20:44.110 --> 00:20:45.030
  • THAT WHICH BELONGS TO CAESAR
  • 00:20:45.030 --> 00:20:46.080
  • AND GIVE TO GOD
  • 00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:48.020
  • THAT WHICH BELONGS TO GOD.
  • 00:20:48.020 --> 00:20:50.020
  • THE MAN SHOULD'VE HAD
  • 00:20:50.020 --> 00:20:50.220
  • A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
  • 00:20:50.220 --> 00:20:52.040
  • FOLLOW-UP QUESTION SHOULD
  • 00:20:52.040 --> 00:20:52.270
  • HAVE BEEN WHAT BELONGS TO GOD?
  • 00:20:52.270 --> 00:20:54.170
  • JESUS WOULD HAVE SAID
  • 00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:55.110
  • WHOSE IMAGE IS ON YOU?
  • 00:20:55.110 --> 00:20:56.280
  • THAT'S THE IMPRINT
  • 00:20:58.010 --> 00:21:01.030
  • OF THE IMAGO DEI.
  • 00:21:01.170 --> 00:21:04.170
  • NO OTHER WORLDVIEW GIVES YOU
  • 00:21:04.170 --> 00:21:06.090
  • THAT BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION
  • 00:21:06.090 --> 00:21:08.170
  • OF WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:21:08.170 --> 00:21:09.210
  • NO, YOU'RE NOT GOD.
  • 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:11.040
  • BUT THERE'S
  • 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:11.260
  • A REFLECTIVE SPLENDOR.
  • 00:21:11.260 --> 00:21:13.030
  • I THINK I WILL AT LEAST
  • 00:21:13.030 --> 00:21:14.200
  • UNDERSCORE TWO ASPECTS
  • 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.020
  • OF THAT REFLECTIVE SPLENDOR.
  • 00:21:16.020 --> 00:21:17.260
  • ONE OF THE GREAT GIFTS GOD
  • 00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:19.220
  • HAS GIVEN TO US,
  • 00:21:19.220 --> 00:21:21.040
  • ALSO ONE OF
  • 00:21:21.040 --> 00:21:21.260
  • THE MOST DANGEROUS GIFTS,
  • 00:21:21.260 --> 00:21:23.100
  • IS FREEWILL.
  • 00:21:23.100 --> 00:21:25.020
  • THE FREEDOM
  • 00:21:25.020 --> 00:21:26.200
  • AT SELF-DETERMINATION.
  • 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:28.240
  • WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT
  • 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.090
  • THERE ARE FOUR POSSIBILITIES
  • 00:21:30.090 --> 00:21:31.130
  • IN THE CREATED ORDER.
  • 00:21:31.130 --> 00:21:33.050
  • GOD COULD HAVE CREATED NOTHING.
  • 00:21:33.050 --> 00:21:35.050
  • GOD COULD HAVE CREATED A WORLD
  • 00:21:35.050 --> 00:21:37.030
  • WHERE WE WOULD ONLY
  • 00:21:37.030 --> 00:21:37.290
  • CHOOSE GOOD.
  • 00:21:37.290 --> 00:21:38.290
  • GOD WOULD HAVE CREATED
  • 00:21:38.290 --> 00:21:39.260
  • WHERE THERE WAS NO SUCH THING
  • 00:21:39.260 --> 00:21:40.270
  • AS GOOD OR EVIL.
  • 00:21:40.270 --> 00:21:42.080
  • OR GOD COULD HAVE CREATED
  • 00:21:42.080 --> 00:21:42.290
  • THIS WORLD WHERE THERE
  • 00:21:42.290 --> 00:21:44.070
  • WAS THE POSSIBILITY
  • 00:21:44.070 --> 00:21:44.280
  • OF GOOD AND EVIL.
  • 00:21:44.280 --> 00:21:46.060
  • THIS IS THE ONLY ONE OF
  • 00:21:46.060 --> 00:21:47.080
  • THE FOUR WHERE LOVE IS POSSIBLE.
  • 00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:48.220
  • SO FOR LOVE TO BE POSSIBLE,
  • 00:21:49.120 --> 00:21:52.120
  • FREEDOM WAS AN IMPERATIVE.
  • 00:21:52.120 --> 00:21:55.110
  • SO THAT IMAGO DEI IS THAT
  • 00:21:55.110 --> 00:21:56.180
  • SELF-DETERMINATION GIFT
  • 00:21:56.180 --> 00:21:58.120
  • THAT GOD HAS GIVEN TO YOU
  • 00:21:58.120 --> 00:22:00.230
  • AND ME.
  • 00:22:00.230 --> 00:22:01.220
  • BUT BEYOND THAT,
  • 00:22:01.220 --> 00:22:02.240
  • IT IS THE CAPACITY
  • 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.040
  • FOR MORAL REASONING.
  • 00:22:04.040 --> 00:22:06.080
  • THIS IS WHERE MAY I DARE SUGGEST
  • 00:22:06.080 --> 00:22:07.190
  • EUROPE WENT WRONG.
  • 00:22:07.190 --> 00:22:10.060
  • WHEN YOU GO BACK TO
  • 00:22:10.060 --> 00:22:12.240
  • THE EPISTEMOLOGICAL BASE
  • 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.050
  • OF EUROPEAN THOUGHT,
  • 00:22:15.050 --> 00:22:16.060
  • BE THEY THE GERMAN PHILOSOPHERS
  • 00:22:16.060 --> 00:22:17.150
  • OR THE FRENCH PHILOSOPHIES,
  • 00:22:17.150 --> 00:22:19.040
  • FOR THEM REASONING BECAME
  • 00:22:19.040 --> 00:22:21.230
  • THE SUPREME CAPACITY OF US.
  • 00:22:21.230 --> 00:22:24.220
  • YOU KNOW, I DOUBT --
  • 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:26.120
  • I THINK THEREFORE I AM.
  • 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:27.290
  • A LA DE CARTE.
  • 00:22:27.290 --> 00:22:29.160
  • HE SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT.
  • 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.170
  • HE SHOULD'VE JUST SAID I THINK
  • 00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:31.160
  • THEREFORE THINKING EXISTS.
  • 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:33.100
  • BUT HE TOOK IT TO THE "I"
  • 00:22:33.100 --> 00:22:35.280
  • FROM THE CAPACITY TO THINK.
  • 00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:37.160
  • BUT GERTRUDE HIMMELFARB,
  • 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:38.290
  • PROFESSOR OF ANCIENT CULTURE
  • 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.200
  • AND HISTORY FROM BACCALAUREATE
  • 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:44.080
  • PROFESSOR EMERITUS
  • 00:22:44.080 --> 00:22:45.000
  • AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
  • 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.010
  • IN HER RECENT BOOK
  • 00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:46.290
  • "THE ROADS TO MODERNITY"
  • 00:22:46.290 --> 00:22:48.280
  • HAS A BRILLIANT CHAPTER
  • 00:22:48.280 --> 00:22:50.150
  • ABOUT WHAT MADE AMERICA
  • 00:22:50.150 --> 00:22:53.040
  • AND THE UNITED KINGDOM
  • 00:22:53.040 --> 00:22:53.270
  • VERY DIFFERENT
  • 00:22:53.270 --> 00:22:54.240
  • IN THE EARLY DAYS TO, SAY,
  • 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:55.220
  • EUROPE AND I THINK CANADA
  • 00:22:55.220 --> 00:22:58.000
  • FOLLOWS ON THAT TOO.
  • 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.200
  • BECAUSE HER DOMINION WAS GOING
  • 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:01.150
  • TO BE FROM SEA TO SEA
  • 00:23:01.150 --> 00:23:02.090
  • IN THE CANADIAN ORDER.
  • 00:23:02.090 --> 00:23:03.210
  • BUT WHEN TAKE IN WHAT SHE SAYS,
  • 00:23:03.210 --> 00:23:05.090
  • SHE SAID FOR
  • 00:23:05.090 --> 00:23:06.020
  • THE FRENCH PHILOSOPHIES
  • 00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:07.120
  • AND THE GERMAN PHILOSOPHERS
  • 00:23:07.120 --> 00:23:09.060
  • AND ALL OF THEIR THINKERS,
  • 00:23:09.060 --> 00:23:10.140
  • REASONING WAS SUPREME
  • 00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:12.070
  • BUT YOU PUT THE UNITED STATES
  • 00:23:12.070 --> 00:23:13.140
  • AND I PUT NORTH AMERICA
  • 00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:14.190
  • IN ONE GROUP
  • 00:23:14.190 --> 00:23:15.210
  • AND THE UNITED KINGDOM
  • 00:23:15.210 --> 00:23:17.130
  • IN THE OTHER,
  • 00:23:17.130 --> 00:23:18.040
  • MORAL REASONING WAS SUPREME.
  • 00:23:18.040 --> 00:23:19.090
  • IT WAS NOT MERELY REASONING.
  • 00:23:19.090 --> 00:23:21.090
  • IT WAS THE CAPACITY
  • 00:23:21.090 --> 00:23:23.070
  • TO REASON MORALLY
  • 00:23:23.070 --> 00:23:24.200
  • RIGHT AND WRONG,
  • 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:25.270
  • GOOD AND EVIL.
  • 00:23:25.270 --> 00:23:27.120
  • IN THE MARXIST WORLD
  • 00:23:27.120 --> 00:23:28.110
  • THESE POINTS WERE CROSSED
  • 00:23:28.110 --> 00:23:29.280
  • AND THE ELECTROCUTION
  • 00:23:29.280 --> 00:23:32.010
  • THAT TOOK PLACE OF MILLIONS
  • 00:23:32.010 --> 00:23:32.230
  • OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:23:32.230 --> 00:23:33.200
  • IN NATURALISM THAT'S EXACTLY
  • 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:35.020
  • WHAT WAS LOST TOO.
  • 00:23:35.020 --> 00:23:36.220
  • SO WHEN I SEE IMAGO DEI I SEE
  • 00:23:36.220 --> 00:23:38.040
  • TWO THINGS: ONE THE CAPACITY
  • 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:40.060
  • TO REASON MORALLY
  • 00:23:40.060 --> 00:23:41.160
  • AND ONE THE ENDOWMENT
  • 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.240
  • OF THE FREEDOM OF THE WILL.
  • 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.250
  • THOSE TWO NOT BROUGHT TOGETHER
  • 00:23:44.250 --> 00:23:46.110
  • ARE DEADLY
  • 00:23:46.110 --> 00:23:48.240
  • BUT WHEN THEY ARE
  • 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.160
  • BROUGHT TOGETHER
  • 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:50.070
  • YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT WHICH
  • 00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:51.000
  • IS HONORABLE, NOBLE, AND GOOD.
  • 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:52.150
  • THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE
  • 00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:53.040
  • THE FULL REFLECTIVE SPLENDOR
  • 00:23:53.040 --> 00:23:54.090
  • OF WHO GOD IS.
  • 00:23:54.090 --> 00:23:56.020
  • THAT IS THE GIFT OF GOD
  • 00:23:56.020 --> 00:23:57.140
  • WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT IN
  • 00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:58.170
  • THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE,
  • 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.180
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:01.180
  • THAT WE'RE ALL CREATED EQUAL
  • 00:24:01.180 --> 00:24:02.080
  • ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR
  • 00:24:02.080 --> 00:24:03.200
  • WITH UNALIENABLE RIGHTS.
  • 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.170
  • NO OTHER WORLDVIEW
  • 00:24:06.170 --> 00:24:07.070
  • WOULD EVER SAY THAT EXCEPT
  • 00:24:07.070 --> 00:24:08.010
  • THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW.
  • 00:24:08.010 --> 00:24:09.020
  • SO I THINK THAT FREEDOM
  • 00:24:09.020 --> 00:24:10.030
  • AND MORAL REASONING
  • 00:24:10.030 --> 00:24:11.160
  • AND CONFLUENCE BRING ABOUT
  • 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.220
  • THE IMAGO DEI THAT GOD
  • 00:24:13.220 --> 00:24:15.150
  • HAS CREATED FOR YOU AND ME.
  • 00:24:15.150 --> 00:24:17.090
  • SO IF THE MAN HAD SAID TO JESUS
  • 00:24:17.090 --> 00:24:19.160
  • WHOSE IMAGE IS ON YOU OR JESUS
  • 00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:22.270
  • HAD SAID TO HIM
  • 00:24:22.270 --> 00:24:24.180
  • WHOSE IMAGE IS ON YOU,
  • 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:26.160
  • JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN
  • 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:27.170
  • REMINDING HIM
  • 00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:28.060
  • YOU ARE MORE VALUABLE
  • 00:24:28.060 --> 00:24:29.050
  • THAN THIS COIN.
  • 00:24:29.050 --> 00:24:30.100
  • THE COIN GOES TO CAESAR
  • 00:24:30.100 --> 00:24:31.200
  • BUT YOU ARE GREATER
  • 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:32.230
  • THAN MERELY A COIN.
  • 00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:34.150
  • YOU HAVE THE IMAGE OF GOD
  • 00:24:34.150 --> 00:24:36.040
  • PLANTED ON YOU WITH THE WILL.
  • 00:24:36.040 --> 00:24:38.010
  • CHESTERTON PUT IT THIS WAY:
  • 00:24:38.010 --> 00:24:40.040
  • YOU CAN SIT IN FRONT
  • 00:24:40.040 --> 00:24:41.090
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  • 00:24:41.090 --> 00:24:42.190
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  • 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:47.080
  • 'CAUSE THE SUN DOESN'T HAVE
  • 00:24:48.040 --> 00:24:51.040
  • THE CAPACITY TO THINK AND REASON
  • 00:24:51.040 --> 00:24:53.010
  • THE WAY YOU AND I DO.
  • 00:24:53.010 --> 00:24:54.190
  • SO WE HAVE THE IMAGO DEI
  • 00:24:54.190 --> 00:24:56.010
  • IN THAT SELF-DETERMINATION
  • 00:24:56.010 --> 00:24:57.240
  • AND MORAL REASONING.
  • 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.040
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  • 00:25:00.040 --> 00:25:00.290
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