Ed Young - How To Discipline

May 16, 2025 | S25:E118

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  • Dr. ed young: we need to learn how to parent
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  • In the world in which we live.
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  • You know what parenting today is like?
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  • It's like building a fire in the rain.
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  • You ever tried to build a fire in the rain?
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  • I have. it's tough, isn't it?
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  • Man, a lot of things you gotta have-some shelter.
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  • You try to cover it up.
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  • You got to have the right kind of wood,
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  • And you might get a fire going.
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  • It rains harder. it puts it out.
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  • You have to take the coals and work them.
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  • Building a fire in the rain is difficult.
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  • Some would say it's impossible.
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  • Oh no!
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  • It just takes diligence.
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  • You have to know what you're doing.
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  • You have to stay with it, and that's what it takes to takes
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  • These little miracles we call sons and daughters, and grow
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  • Them up the way god would have them, us to grow 'em up as
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  • Mothers and dads and those who support and teach and lead them.
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  • It's like building a fire in the rain in our culture, isn't it?
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  • So how do you do it?
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  • It's a challenge for all of us,
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  • And we can't anticipate all the signs of rebellion.
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  • We can't anticipate all the situations we find ourselves
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  • With kids and with families.
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  • You know, how in the world can we prepare them?
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  • How can we build the right stuff in them that god would have us
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  • To build in them as parents?
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  • You know, handling this situation,
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  • And we can't plan for all the extremities.
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  • But there are some basic things, parents, couples can do to sort
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  • Of put some things down; to put down a grid, some parameters.
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  • And i'll represent to you two negatives and two positives.
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  • Two negatives-don't do this.
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  • Two positives-do this, and it'll help us in the overwhelming
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  • Challenge in our modern world, and that is to, with our sons
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  • And with our daughters, to build a fire in their life;
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  • A purpose in their life;
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  • Christ in their life in the middle of a rainstorm.
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  • I want you to look first of all, the first negative.
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  • Ephesians chapter number 6.
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  • Paul is writing.
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  • He says, "fathers, do not provoke your children to anger."
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  • Do not provoke your children to anger.
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  • How does that operate?
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  • Do not provoke your children to wrath.
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  • It means our children are never to be angry with us?
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  • No.
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  • Means our children are always to be happy?
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  • No.
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  • But we don't provoke them in such a way that they are
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  • Overwhelmed with bitterness, and it stays in their lives, and it,
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  • It stored up there, and there's a seething kind of anger
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  • That comes with our sons and daughters,
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  • And this happens when we over-discipline them.
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  • It happens when we under-discipline them.
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  • I remember when my son, ed-he was a sophomore
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  • Or junior in high school.
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  • He had a big test on the constitution and the bylaws.
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  • I asked him through the week-"are you studying?
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  • Are you sort of getting it?"
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  • "oh yeah, dad.... i'm on top of it!
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  • I'll be ready for the test..."
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  • The night before the test, i went up to his room and i got
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  • The book and the study questions, and i asked him, and
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  • He didn't know the constitution from mary had a little lamb!
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  • (audience laughs).
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  • It was unbelievable!
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  • I reminded him we'd visited washington.
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  • We'd seen it behind the case.
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  • Man, he did know anything, and all week long,
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  • He was ready for the big test.
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  • And i just lost it.
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  • And i remember, i grabbed him by the hair, way too hard.
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  • I said, "son, we're gonna stay here til' you know the
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  • Constitution, the bylaws, the amendment and everybody who
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  • Wrote them, backwards and forwards, and...
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  • We went to bed about quarter til' 4:00.
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  • Next morning, i went up there because i didn't sleep very much
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  • That short night, and i apologized.
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  • I cried, and he cried.
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  • I over-disciplined him.
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  • We've even dealt with that again as we are adults.
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  • You see, you can provoke your children.
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  • I, i-you know, he was too old for this kind of corporation
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  • Punishment, and see, i was not in control;
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  • But i was asking him to be in control.
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  • Parents, when you're not in control,
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  • You can't discipline your children.
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  • If you do it, you do it improperly, and you
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  • Discipline them to a point of anger and a point of wrath.
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  • That's what the warning here paul gives us.
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  • Don't over-discipline your kids.
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  • It's got to be the right time, the right place,
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  • Identified with the right person, in the right situation.
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  • All of our kids are different.
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  • With ed, it took corporate punishment to get him
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  • In line so many, many times.
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  • With ben, you could talk and reason with him.
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  • With cliff, he had such a tender heart,
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  • You just look at him-he got it.
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  • You see, you have to adapt to all of these things,
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  • Age appropriate.
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  • And so we can over-discipline, and we can under-discipline.
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  • The best illustration of under-discipline
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  • I know of is in the bible.
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  • You have king david. man, he's on the throne.
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  • He's ruling everything. he's in charge.
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  • He's king! doing a fabulous job.
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  • Geo-political relations are up.
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  • The economy is up.
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  • Man, the people respect him.
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  • He's honored.
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  • He's a poet.
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  • He's a man after god's own heart.
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  • But what happened in his family?
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  • His son, amnon was sick.
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  • Amnon asked his half-sister, tamar, to come and feed him
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  • While he was in the bed sick.
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  • When everyone left, he took his sister and he raped her.
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  • It said in the bible david knew about it.
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  • He was angry, but he did nothing about it.
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  • He knew, but he did nothing.
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  • The deadliest thing in a family is a passive father,
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  • Ladies and gentlemen.
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  • The deadliest thing is a passive father.
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  • And what happened in that situation?
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  • Two years later, absalom came and killed his own brother to
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  • Avenge what he had done to his sister.
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  • And then absalom was put in exile.
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  • Then david brought absalom back home, and absalom fell before
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  • Him, but david wouldn't even see him for two years.
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  • And absalom later led a rebellion against david and his
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  • Own father, because david knew and did nothing.
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  • That's under-disciplining, and that leads to wrath.
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  • You see the wrath, the bitterness that was in
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  • Absalom because of passive dad?
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  • So we can over-discipline and under-discipline and we can miss
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  • This clear word of instruction from god's word.
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  • Don't provoke your children to anger, to wrath.
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  • And then look at the next negative we see.
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  • These are the words of jesus.
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  • Turn with me to luke chapter number 17.
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  • The same story is told in matthew.
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  • Luke chapter 17: jesus speaking: he said to the disciples,
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  • "it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come,
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  • But woe to him through whom they come.
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  • It would be better for him if a millstone was hung around his
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  • Neck and he was thrown into the sea, than one would cause one of
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  • These little ones to stumble."
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  • In other words, don't trip up your kids.
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  • Don't provoke them. don't trip them up.
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  • Don't cause them to stumble.
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  • You say, "well, how do we do that?"
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  • I read only this week about the situation that disney has.
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  • It seems that a group of new york sophisticates were taking
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  • Their kids to disney down in orlando,
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  • And they found a way to beat the long lines.
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  • They would hire somebody who was handicapped to lead their
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  • Children in; they'd go to the head of the line,
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  • And one new york society woman boasted, said, "everybody else
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  • Stood two and a half to get-two and a half hours to get in
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  • "it's a small world" but my kids, led
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  • By that handicapped person, they were in in a minute and a half!
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  • They just blitzed disney!
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  • And they were bragging about it.
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  • Another man was talking about he did the same thing.
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  • He got a doctor to write out a prescription and said his son
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  • Was hddd-hddd i think all of us are that anyway...
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  • And therefore, they put him at the head of the line.
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  • See, they broke the system.
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  • You say, "well, what about that?"
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  • You see what you're doing?
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  • You're tripping up your son and daughter.
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  • You are showing them how to take short-cuts by money,
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  • By prestige, by beating the system, and therefore, they get
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  • To college, and they're "oh, i can't believe you cheated
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  • On that test and you're thrown out of school!"
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  • Dad, mom, you don't have a leg to stand on, any more than david
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  • Had a leg to stand on in dealing with his son,
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  • Who's raped his daughter because david had already been
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  • Guilty of sleeping with someone who wasn't his wife.
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  • See what i'm saying?
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  • We cause our children to stumble, and sometimes they
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  • Stumble so ingloriously, it breaks your heart.
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  • Here's a letter written a few years back by a teenager:
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  • Dear folks: thank you for everything, but i'm going to
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  • Chicago and try to start some kind of new life.
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  • You ask me why i did those things and why
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  • I gave you so much trouble.
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  • The answer is easy for me to give to you,
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  • But i'm wondering if you will understand?
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  • Remember when i was 6 or 7 and i used to
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  • Want you to just listen to me?
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  • I remember all the nice things you gave me for christmas,
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  • My birthday.
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  • I was really happy with those things, about a few days, at the
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  • Time i got the things; but the rest of the time during the
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  • Year, i really didn't want presents.
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  • I just wanted all the time for you to listen to me, like i was
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  • Somebody who felt things too, because i remember even when
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  • I was young, i felt things...
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  • But you said you were too busy...
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  • Mom, you're a wonderful cook.
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  • You have everything so clean, that you tried so much from
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  • Doing all those things that make you busy;
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  • But you know something, mom?
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  • I would have liked crackers and peanut butter
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  • Just as well if you'd only sat down with me
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  • Awhile during the day and said to me,
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  • 'tell me all about it so maybe i can help you understand...'
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  • I think all the kids who are doing so many
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  • Things that grownups are tearing their hair out worrying about
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  • Are really looking for somebody who'll have time to listen a few
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  • Minutes, and who really will treat them as they would a
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  • Grown-up who might be useful to them, and you know?
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  • Polite to them...
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  • If you folks ever said to me, 'pardon me..."
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  • When you interrupted me, i would have dropped dead.
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  • If anybody asks you where i am, tell them i've gone looking
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  • For somebody with time because i've got
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  • A lot of things i want to talk about.
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  • Love to all, (he signed it) your son.
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  • See, our kids-we trip them up.
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  • I remember going to a school play some years back, and a
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  • Little guy in the play had a part, you know,
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  • About a minute and a half.
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  • He did his thing, and after the play was over,
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  • That little guy came storming behind the stage.
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  • I happen to see him, and he just ran out
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  • There to his daddy, you know...
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  • To him, he'd just played hamlet on broadway!
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  • You know, he was just thrilled to death!
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  • And he ran out there, and he grabbed his daddy-wanted him
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  • To say, you know, what a good job he'd done,
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  • And i'm proud of you, son...
  • 00:11:39.722 --> 00:11:41.390
  • His dad said, "i can't talk to you now.
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  • I'm talking to mr. smithson."
  • 00:11:42.792 --> 00:11:45.060
  • So he pushed him to one side,
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  • And you could see that little guy.
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  • He just goes off.
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  • He's broken hearted.
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  • Parents, awake up!
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  • Be sensitive to your kids!
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  • Don't cause them to trip.
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  • Don't cause them to trip, to stumble.
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  • It's better that, jesus said, a millstone be hung around
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  • The neck of somebody who trips up a kid.
  • 00:12:05.848 --> 00:12:09.685
  • In our society when we tolerate pedophilia,
  • 00:12:09.685 --> 00:12:12.788
  • I don't understand it!
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  • Look what jesus says, about how deadly it is.
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  • Our kids-we build them up!
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  • Jesus said, "let them come to me."
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  • "oh no!" the disciples said. "oh no!
  • 00:12:21.197 --> 00:12:24.433
  • You're talking to a lot of big important people!"
  • 00:12:24.433 --> 00:12:26.368
  • He said, "i don't care about them.
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  • Suffer the little children to come to me."
  • 00:12:28.304 --> 00:12:30.239
  • He said, "unless you have the humility of a child
  • 00:12:30.239 --> 00:12:32.208
  • Like that you'll never get to heaven yourself."
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  • How important!
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  • Jesus elevated children-elevated children.
  • 00:12:37.613 --> 00:12:42.251
  • The bible gives us instruction:
  • 00:12:42.251 --> 00:12:44.420
  • Don't provoke your kids to wrath.
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  • Don't trip up your kids by your lifestyle.
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  • But what's the positive part of training?
  • 00:12:51.961 --> 00:12:54.396
  • Look at it.
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  • We go immediately to the book of proverbs, a very familiar verse.
  • 00:12:55.731 --> 00:12:58.567
  • Proverbs, chapter 22, verse 6: "train up a child in the way
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  • That he should go, and when he is old,
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  • He will not depart from it."
  • 00:13:07.743 --> 00:13:09.078
  • What does that mean?
  • 00:13:09.078 --> 00:13:10.546
  • It means train up a child in the way you think he should go?
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  • She should go? no, no.
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  • It means train up a child in the way god has bent them.
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  • Back in biblical days when a child did not begin to suck when
  • 00:13:23.525 --> 00:13:28.664
  • They were born, the midwife would take some fig juice and
  • 00:13:28.664 --> 00:13:31.300
  • Rub it on their gums, and they would teach them out to suck,
  • 00:13:31.300 --> 00:13:35.871
  • And they naturally became sucking machines so they could
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  • Live-so they could live.
  • 00:13:38.841 --> 00:13:43.646
  • That's the way we train children.
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  • We look at our children. we study them.
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  • We ask god for discernment.
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  • We see how god has bent them, how god has placed them,
  • 00:13:49.685 --> 00:13:54.089
  • And then, not how we want-we see where there giftedness is.
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  • We see where their passion is...
  • 00:13:57.760 --> 00:14:00.262
  • You know, jo beth and i were just strolling through life.
  • 00:14:00.262 --> 00:14:02.498
  • All of a sudden, my youngest son, cliff was born and we were
  • 00:14:02.498 --> 00:14:05.234
  • Trying to figure out how he was bent, and we couldn't figure it
  • 00:14:05.234 --> 00:14:08.604
  • Out until we gave him a guitar-a little guitar one christmas, and
  • 00:14:08.604 --> 00:14:12.775
  • Man, all of a sudden, we have a musician on our hands!
  • 00:14:12.775 --> 00:14:15.110
  • Where did that come from?
  • 00:14:15.110 --> 00:14:17.780
  • You see, you, you have to do this with your kids.
  • 00:14:17.780 --> 00:14:20.149
  • Don't have all those presuppositions,
  • 00:14:20.149 --> 00:14:22.885
  • All those ideas of what they ought to be.
  • 00:14:22.885 --> 00:14:24.787
  • See, when our kids are young and a kid will say, you know,
  • 00:14:24.787 --> 00:14:28.624
  • "i want to be a doctor!"
  • 00:14:28.624 --> 00:14:30.592
  • And all the rest of his years, "you know, billy, when you were
  • 00:14:30.592 --> 00:14:32.761
  • Little, you said you wanted to be a doctor.
  • 00:14:32.761 --> 00:14:34.697
  • You know, you know, you said you wanted to be a doctor, billy..."
  • 00:14:34.697 --> 00:14:37.166
  • Now if billy said, "i want to be a garbage man..."
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  • We'd never bring that up again, would we?
  • 00:14:40.235 --> 00:14:42.171
  • (audience laughs).
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  • Let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen:
  • 00:14:44.173 --> 00:14:46.108
  • Billy as a doctor is in worse shape than billy
  • 00:14:46.108 --> 00:14:51.146
  • As a garbage man, if he's outside the will of god.
  • 00:14:51.146 --> 00:14:55.551
  • It's not prestige, money, power...
  • 00:14:55.551 --> 00:14:58.220
  • We can't live variously through our children.
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  • We figure out how god has molded them.
  • 00:15:00.823 --> 00:15:04.526
  • I know a man who has been tremendously successful in the
  • 00:15:04.526 --> 00:15:07.196
  • Business world, but he's been miserable all
  • 00:15:07.196 --> 00:15:09.798
  • The years of professional life.
  • 00:15:09.798 --> 00:15:11.667
  • He has the gift of being a teacher, and he said,
  • 00:15:11.667 --> 00:15:14.336
  • "oh, how i wanted to teach!
  • 00:15:14.336 --> 00:15:16.038
  • But my family just wouldn't let me do it."
  • 00:15:16.038 --> 00:15:20.009
  • You see, you miss the passion of your life.
  • 00:15:20.009 --> 00:15:22.678
  • You want to find out what turns your kids on,
  • 00:15:22.678 --> 00:15:24.680
  • And you study them, and you encourage them.
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  • See how god has bent them.
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  • Then you train them.
  • 00:15:29.318 --> 00:15:30.853
  • Well, how do you train them?
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  • You know how the jews tra, trained in the bible.
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  • You go to deuteronomy chapter 6, you see it clearly.
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  • It's the shema.
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  • And they come, the, the, and moses just give
  • 00:15:38.660 --> 00:15:40.796
  • Them the ten commandments, and he says,
  • 00:15:40.796 --> 00:15:42.731
  • "this is how you are to teach your kids right and wrong."
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  • Look at deuteronomy chapter 6 verse 7 following.
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  • This is how you do it.
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  • "you shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of
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  • Them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way,
  • 00:15:53.709 --> 00:15:56.945
  • And when you lie down, and when you rise up.
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  • You shall bind them as a sign on your hand,
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  • And they shall be as frontals on your forehead.
  • 00:16:02.684 --> 00:16:05.387
  • You will write them on the doorposts
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  • Of your house, on your gates."
  • 00:16:07.056 --> 00:16:08.390
  • What is this saying?
  • 00:16:08.390 --> 00:16:09.725
  • It's saying that in the home,
  • 00:16:09.725 --> 00:16:11.293
  • We surround our kids with principles of life.
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  • We teach them.
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  • God is number one.
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  • Don't take his name in vain.
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  • Worship him on the sabbath, on sunday.
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  • Be a worshipper.
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  • Honor your father and your mother.
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  • Don't murder. don't commit adultery.
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  • Don't steal. don't lie.
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  • Don't covet. and we teach that.
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  • We inculcate.
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  • We, we teach that to our kids all the time.
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  • It's just a part of the atmosphere of
  • 00:16:39.221 --> 00:16:41.290
  • Our family and of our home.
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  • This is how we do it.
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  • We are training them up in the way that god has bent
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  • Them, putting moral fiber in the middle of them.
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  • That's the second, that's the third thing we do, and that's
  • 00:16:55.137 --> 00:16:57.406
  • The first positive thing we do.
  • 00:16:57.406 --> 00:16:59.608
  • Look at the next positive thing we do with our kids.
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  • We go back to ephesians.
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  • It finishes that passage up.
  • 00:17:03.345 --> 00:17:06.181
  • It says, "but bring them up in the discipline and
  • 00:17:06.181 --> 00:17:08.951
  • Instruction of the lord."
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  • You teach them in the way god has bent them, giving moral
  • 00:17:10.586 --> 00:17:15.224
  • Fiber to them, and then you bring them up-you bring them,
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  • You go along with them.
  • 00:17:18.961 --> 00:17:22.097
  • Ladies and gentlemen, you can require your kids to do what you
  • 00:17:22.097 --> 00:17:26.368
  • Want them to do until they become teenagers.
  • 00:17:26.368 --> 00:17:28.837
  • Then they'll begin to do what you do, and there's our problem.
  • 00:17:28.837 --> 00:17:34.910
  • There's our problem.
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  • We bring them up in the discipline of the lord.
  • 00:17:37.112 --> 00:17:42.084
  • What is discipline?
  • 00:17:42.084 --> 00:17:43.418
  • You say, "oh, that's punishment."
  • 00:17:43.418 --> 00:17:44.753
  • Oh no, it isn't.
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  • Discipline is drawing boundaries.
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  • Here is the boundary.
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  • This is how our family functions.
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  • Here are the rules. here is the regulation.
  • 00:17:51.126 --> 00:17:53.061
  • This is who we are. these are the boundaries.
  • 00:17:53.061 --> 00:17:55.063
  • That's discipline.
  • 00:17:55.063 --> 00:17:56.698
  • Then when they move outside of those boundaries, then you have
  • 00:17:56.698 --> 00:17:59.801
  • A response that is appropriate to age and that
  • 00:17:59.801 --> 00:18:02.671
  • Particular situation, and that particular child.
  • 00:18:02.671 --> 00:18:06.909
  • And see, that's where parents are always praying for wisdom
  • 00:18:06.909 --> 00:18:09.478
  • And discern, and discernment and the leadership of the spirit.
  • 00:18:09.478 --> 00:18:13.582
  • So in the instruction, in the discipline, and the
  • 00:18:13.582 --> 00:18:16.285
  • Instruction of the lord; in the teaching of the lord.
  • 00:18:16.285 --> 00:18:20.289
  • How do you teach?
  • 00:18:20.289 --> 00:18:22.591
  • I remember my mother teaching me how to walk across the street
  • 00:18:22.591 --> 00:18:24.793
  • When i was a little guy.
  • 00:18:24.793 --> 00:18:26.128
  • You know, in front of our, our house, there was a street...
  • 00:18:26.128 --> 00:18:28.931
  • I thought it was a busy street;
  • 00:18:28.931 --> 00:18:30.632
  • A car went by about every 30 minutes.
  • 00:18:30.632 --> 00:18:32.334
  • But anyway...
  • 00:18:32.334 --> 00:18:33.669
  • And she said, and she would take-i'd go to go across the
  • 00:18:33.669 --> 00:18:35.837
  • Street to play with people.
  • 00:18:35.837 --> 00:18:37.172
  • She'd take me by the hand.
  • 00:18:37.172 --> 00:18:38.607
  • She'd say, "edwin, stop, look, and listen..."
  • 00:18:38.607 --> 00:18:40.342
  • We'd walk across.
  • 00:18:40.342 --> 00:18:41.677
  • We'd come back, stop, look, and listen.
  • 00:18:41.677 --> 00:18:43.245
  • We did this a few times.
  • 00:18:43.245 --> 00:18:44.580
  • Then she said, "all right-i want you to lead,
  • 00:18:44.580 --> 00:18:46.481
  • Lead me by the hand."
  • 00:18:46.481 --> 00:18:47.816
  • So i took her hand and i stopped and looked, and i led her.
  • 00:18:47.816 --> 00:18:50.485
  • Sometimes she'd say, "wait a minute!
  • 00:18:50.485 --> 00:18:52.254
  • That car is coming..."
  • 00:18:52.254 --> 00:18:53.589
  • And we did that.
  • 00:18:53.589 --> 00:18:54.923
  • Then a few times, she'd say, "i'll stand on the curb.
  • 00:18:54.923 --> 00:18:56.692
  • Let's see how you do." and she'd watch me.
  • 00:18:56.692 --> 00:18:58.760
  • "that's good. that's terrific.
  • 00:18:58.760 --> 00:19:00.495
  • You've got it!"
  • 00:19:00.495 --> 00:19:01.830
  • Then down the road, she'd stand at the door of the house.
  • 00:19:01.830 --> 00:19:03.599
  • She'd say, "okay, i'm watching you."
  • 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:05.534
  • And i'd stop, look, and listen...
  • 00:19:05.534 --> 00:19:07.236
  • That's the way she taught.
  • 00:19:07.236 --> 00:19:08.570
  • That is the way we teach our children
  • 00:19:08.570 --> 00:19:10.105
  • And all kinds of things.
  • 00:19:10.105 --> 00:19:11.440
  • We're with them. we stay with them.
  • 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.041
  • We hang in there with them.
  • 00:19:13.041 --> 00:19:14.376
  • We're teaching the way the lord has taught,
  • 00:19:14.376 --> 00:19:17.613
  • In the admonition of his truth.
  • 00:19:17.613 --> 00:19:20.782
  • Now here is the challenge: you build all the right stuff with
  • 00:19:20.782 --> 00:19:26.188
  • Time, and talent, and prayer, and going to church with them,
  • 00:19:26.188 --> 00:19:29.191
  • Praying with them, an all of a sudden,
  • 00:19:29.191 --> 00:19:31.126
  • They leave home and they go bazooka!
  • 00:19:31.126 --> 00:19:34.863
  • Wild!
  • 00:19:34.863 --> 00:19:37.165
  • What in the world?
  • 00:19:37.165 --> 00:19:38.800
  • And we fall back on this verse-"train up a child in the
  • 00:19:38.800 --> 00:19:41.169
  • Way he should go, and when he is old, he'll not depart from it."
  • 00:19:41.169 --> 00:19:43.205
  • "boy, i sure hope they come back!
  • 00:19:43.205 --> 00:19:46.608
  • I sure hope they do!
  • 00:19:46.608 --> 00:19:47.943
  • You know, we tried to train 'em up!"
  • 00:19:47.943 --> 00:19:49.678
  • I've heard that a quinzillion times!
  • 00:19:49.678 --> 00:19:53.548
  • Let me show you what's missing in our training up our children
  • 00:19:53.548 --> 00:19:55.917
  • Right here at this point.
  • 00:19:55.917 --> 00:19:57.252
  • Let me show you what we miss many times.
  • 00:19:57.252 --> 00:20:00.122
  • We get all the rights, and the wrongs, and the do's,
  • 00:20:00.122 --> 00:20:02.557
  • And the don't's, and the discipline, and the parameters,
  • 00:20:02.557 --> 00:20:05.427
  • And we encourage, and we build all those things in;
  • 00:20:05.427 --> 00:20:08.297
  • But we leave out something.
  • 00:20:08.297 --> 00:20:11.767
  • I want you to see what joseph had in the bible,
  • 00:20:11.767 --> 00:20:14.369
  • What his other brothers didn't have.
  • 00:20:14.369 --> 00:20:17.639
  • Joseph-the other sons of big
  • 00:20:17.639 --> 00:20:19.675
  • Jake were just unscrupulous characters.
  • 00:20:19.675 --> 00:20:23.145
  • They were slime.
  • 00:20:23.145 --> 00:20:24.479
  • They were the kind of kids you didn't want
  • 00:20:24.479 --> 00:20:26.415
  • Your kids to play with.
  • 00:20:26.415 --> 00:20:28.417
  • But big jake, i'm sure, took the shema and commandments
  • 00:20:28.417 --> 00:20:33.922
  • And tried to build that in his kids.
  • 00:20:33.922 --> 00:20:35.390
  • That's what they did... that's what they did.
  • 00:20:35.390 --> 00:20:37.225
  • Moses' principles.
  • 00:20:37.225 --> 00:20:38.994
  • But it took with joseph, and you look at joseph...
  • 00:20:38.994 --> 00:20:42.631
  • They, they were jealous of him.
  • 00:20:42.631 --> 00:20:43.965
  • He was a little egotistical-mark that down;
  • 00:20:43.965 --> 00:20:46.501
  • The favorite of his father.
  • 00:20:46.501 --> 00:20:48.737
  • His mother was rachel-different from leah, the other boys...
  • 00:20:48.737 --> 00:20:52.307
  • And the brothers sold him.
  • 00:20:52.307 --> 00:20:53.675
  • They wanted to kill him, but they sold him as
  • 00:20:53.675 --> 00:20:55.277
  • A slave and went to potiphar's house.
  • 00:20:55.277 --> 00:20:57.179
  • Potiphar put him in charge of everything.
  • 00:20:57.179 --> 00:20:59.281
  • Potiphar's wife tried to seduce him.
  • 00:20:59.281 --> 00:21:01.116
  • He said "no." she accused him.
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  • He was put in prison. he became head of the prison.
  • 00:21:02.818 --> 00:21:06.088
  • Then he made some promises, and he predicted some things,
  • 00:21:06.088 --> 00:21:08.557
  • Some dreams they had, and they said they would speak for him
  • 00:21:08.557 --> 00:21:11.360
  • Before pharaoh, but they didn't, until finally the day pharaoh
  • 00:21:11.360 --> 00:21:14.930
  • Recognized joseph as someone who could be prime minister because
  • 00:21:14.930 --> 00:21:18.934
  • Of his understanding of god and economic affairs,
  • 00:21:18.934 --> 00:21:21.837
  • And here is joseph, a stranger, a jew, now a prime minister of
  • 00:21:21.837 --> 00:21:26.007
  • The most powerful nation in the world.
  • 00:21:26.007 --> 00:21:27.943
  • You say, "he's not qualified!"
  • 00:21:27.943 --> 00:21:31.413
  • Man, was he qualified!
  • 00:21:31.413 --> 00:21:33.548
  • As a young man, he thought he was going to die.
  • 00:21:33.548 --> 00:21:35.984
  • As a young man, he was sold into slavery.
  • 00:21:35.984 --> 00:21:38.019
  • As a young man, he rose in prominence in potiphar's house.
  • 00:21:38.019 --> 00:21:41.423
  • As a young man, he rose in prominence as he was in prison.
  • 00:21:41.423 --> 00:21:44.493
  • See, god put him through all those schools of discipline that
  • 00:21:44.493 --> 00:21:47.696
  • Uniquely prepared him for that moment of
  • 00:21:47.696 --> 00:21:50.198
  • Service and exaltation in his life.
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  • What did, how did joseph have this kind of character
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  • And fiber and his other brothers didn't?
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  • You see the character demonstrated there when
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  • Mrs. potiphar tried to seduce him.
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  • She was "miss egypt"-knockout, beautiful.
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  • And it was the culture of the day.
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  • Here is joseph, strong, handsome, jewish.
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  • Man, he was something!
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  • And the bible says she tempted him day, after day, after day.
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  • Not a one-time deal...
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  • And finally, he said, "no."
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  • And she grabbed him by the shirt and ripped the shirt off his
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  • Back as he ran from her; but he told her as
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  • To why he could not sleep with her.
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  • Three things. what did he say?
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  • He said, "i can't do this thing because your husband has put
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  • Me in charge of everything he has but you."
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  • You know, he had a vocational accountability he was taught.
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  • And then he says, "i can't do this
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  • Thing because you're his wife.
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  • You're the exclusive property of him and
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  • He's the exclusive property of you.
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  • I can't do it."
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  • And then he said, "the third reason
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  • I can't do it is because god sees me."
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  • Where did he learn this kind of application?
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  • His older brothers evidently didn't have it.
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  • Had the same dad, but a different mom,
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  • And i'm gonna guess it was rachel, that that mom said,
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  • "look-here's what you don't do, and here's what you do...
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  • But this is..." (here it is, parents)
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  • "why we do not worship other gods.
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  • This is why we do not covet other people's property.
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  • This is why we do not murder.
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  • It's why we do not commit adultery.
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  • It's why we do not steal.
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  • It's why..."
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  • You see, we have to not only teach and put boundaries up
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  • And explain; we use illustrations in life and say,
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  • "look what happened over there.
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  • Look what they did wrong. look at the example.
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  • Look what's going right in that life.
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  • Why? look why?
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  • How, what happened to that kid on drugs?
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  • And look what happened to that life.
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  • Look what happened to that kid who made the right choice and
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  • What happened in that life."
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  • You see, we not only teach and lay down all the principles,
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  • Line upon line, precept upon precept;
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  • We explain to our kids why.
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  • And when you do that, they'll get out in this
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  • World and they'll make valued judgments and
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  • Moral choices that will be fabulous!
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  • See the genius of it?
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  • Two negatives: don't provoke.
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  • Don't trip up.
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  • What do you do?
  • 00:24:37.399 --> 00:24:39.467
  • You train up-words and precepts.
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  • Then you bring them up.
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  • That means you bring them along with yourself, and i wonder how
  • 00:24:44.673 --> 00:24:49.844
  • Many sons and daughters are saying, "you know, my mom and
  • 00:24:49.844 --> 00:24:52.314
  • Dad went to church all the time when we were coming up,
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  • And now they have just moved on..."
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  • What does that say to your kids now?
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  • 'cause parenting is a life-time calling and responsibility.
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  • Ed: at some point, every marriage will run into
  • 00:25:09.264 --> 00:25:11.967
  • Tough times.
  • 00:25:11.967 --> 00:25:13.468
  • Whether it's miscommunication, money, sex, or in-laws, every
  • 00:25:13.468 --> 00:25:17.072
  • Marriage goes through a rocky patch.
  • 00:25:17.072 --> 00:25:19.874
  • Far too often, those rocky patches end up ruining otherwise
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  • Great, potentially super marriages.
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  • But it does not have to be that way.
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  • God designed marriage, and he gave us the keys to have a
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  • Marriage that works, a marriage that sizzles.
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  • In my book, "the ten commandments of marriage", i lay
  • 00:25:37.025 --> 00:25:40.295
  • Out ten practical principles to make your marriage super.
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  • Can be amazing.
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  • Ed: i remember a bible study group that consisted of doctors
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  • And attorneys and ceos and
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  • Vice presidents and presidents of corporations,
  • 00:26:12.260 --> 00:26:15.597
  • Entrepreneurial genius' and a street sweeper.
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  • In the initial meeting, the group leader asked
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  • Each to identify himself.
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  • First one said, ‘i'm a physician',
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  • Another, ‘i'm an attorney',
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  • ‘i'm vice president of operations' answered a third.
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  • And finally it was the street sweeper's turn.
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  • I was a little apprehensive about what he'd say.
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  • He said, ‘i am a son of the king'.
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  • He had no identity in the world for which he could boast,
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  • But he knew his core identity.
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  • The others were clouded by their earthly title, position,
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  • But the street sweeper knew he was chosen by the king of kings
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  • To be a son with all the privileges and honors, man,
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  • Of that high position.
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  • Remember, as sons and daughters of god
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  • Who you are in jesus christ right now, today.
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  • There's not a higher position in anybody's kingdom.
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  • ♪♪♪
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