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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andy Stanley - How To Start Repairing Broken Relationships (Part 1) | January 18, 2025
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- Andy stanley: hi everybody, welcome to "your move" where we
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- Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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- I'm andy stanley, and i'll be your guide.
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- Now, relationships if you think about it, relationships are
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- A lot like cars, right?
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- We are way better at starting them than fixing them when they
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- Break and we think about it starting a relationship is
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- Somewhat intuitive, but have you ever tried to fix
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- A broken relationship?
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- Maybe with a coworker or a friend or maybe even a parent.
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- That is not intuitive and all this but there is a way to fix
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- Broken relationships.
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- And that's what we're talkin' about today
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- Right here on "your move," stick around.
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- ♪♪♪
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- Andy: so i'm 27, yeah, 27 years ago,
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- I'm sitting in my dad's office
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- At his church, it was just my dad, and there's two of us and
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- A counselor again.
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- And we're meeting with our counselor every week trying to
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- Figure out how to fix our broken, damaged relationship.
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- And the strange thing is if you can, you know, kinda put
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- Yourself in our position for just a minute.
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- We've spend our whole careers, telling people how to fix
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- Broken, damaged relationships and now we had one and we're the
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- Experts and we were stuck and we we're angry and we were hurt.
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- And here's why: because he saw things his way and i saw things
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- The right way.
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- And i could not understand for the life of me why we weren't
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- Making any progress, right?
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- I mean, it was the simple, dad, if you will just see things my
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- Way will be on our way, right?
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- Now you laugh and the reason you laugh is because i what you're
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- Thinking, you're thinking finally, someone understands me.
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- Finally someone understands the situation and the circumstances
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- I'm in as i try to navigate difficult relationships.
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- If you think about your current fractured relationship or a
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- Distant fractured relationship that's actually just been it's
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- Been broken for a long, long time.
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- It can be recent, distant can be family, work, a good friend and
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- There's just been this weird thing and now, you know, it's
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- Just awkward and you can tell you're drifting apart or maybe
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- It's a brother or sister again, you know, a family member, but
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- Isn't it true?
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- I mean, isn't it true that if they would just see it your way
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- Everything would be okay.
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- So, since we all have that in common, i thought for the next
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- Few weeks, we would address a question that i know that many
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- Of you have been asking maybe for many, many years.
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- And the question is what's wrong with these people?
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- Because until they see things your way, which is the right
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- Way, they're just holding up progress, they're just making it
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- Awkward for your family.
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- Nobody can move forward, the family's in turmoil, it's ruined
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- One thanksgiving or two or three, it's about to ruin
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- Another one or christmas.
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- And again, if they would just see things your way things will
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- Be okay.
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- And so for the next few weeks, we're gonna talk about how to
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- Get them to see things your way.
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- I wanna just jump right in because this is a little
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- Bit complicated.
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- To get people to see things your way and--this is the bonus--
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- And to get them to apologize, you have to--i know--you're
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- Just relieved.
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- This why you're laughing.
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- Finally somebody's getting you to talk about something
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- Practical up here.
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- You're gonna have to master the tools for
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- Relationship management.
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- And this is important to remember: remember, people need
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- To be managed.
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- So i came up with what i call "the c4 approach to
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- Relationship management."
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- Now, c4 is also a common variety plastic explosive--that is
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- Completely coincidental.
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- Okay, "the c4 approach to relationship management."
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- This approach, the perception of this approach is that it brings
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- People together, but in reality, it's not bringing people
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- Together, it's bringing people towards you so they can see the
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- World the way that you.
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- Do and they're never even gonna know it's happening.
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- Now there are four components to this is why it's called "the c4
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- Approach to relationship management" and here they are.
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- I'm going to give them to you upfront and we're gonna talk
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- About one every week.
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- I'm convince, convict, coerce, control.
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- Convinced, convict.
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- I'll start with c and make this simple.
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- Convinced we're gonna master these.
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- Convince, convict, coerce, control.
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- So we're gonna take each one of these over the next four weeks
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- And kinda tease it out and i'm gonna teach you how to
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- Master this.
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- Now if you have or if you're harboring any doubts regarding
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- The effectiveness of this approach to relationships just
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- Consider how effective this has been and bringing our
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- Nation together.
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- I know, right?
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- Because after all you respond and i respond, we all respond
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- Well to being convinced of things and convicted of things,
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- Shaming and coercing and being controlled, right?
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- I'm mean don't these just help draw you closer to the people
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- Around you?
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- I mean, don't we all know this is the way forward?
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- No, of course it's not.
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- Didn't work on you doesn't work on me.
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- It doesn't work on anybody but here's the odd thing, the
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- Strange thing.
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- This is why we're gonna talk about it for a few weeks.
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- The strange thing is even though you look at that and you go,
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- Yeah that, that's not the way forward.
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- In spite of all, that these are the things we almost always
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- Reach for first either intentionally or as we're gonna
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- See even unintentionally.
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- We reach for them first and they make things worse.
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- Nothing gets resolved, nothing gets settled, and then you tell
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- Yourself, well, there's nothing i can do about it.
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- I tried and besides that, you know what, i just don't
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- Even care.
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- I just don't even care.
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- Or, we just keep pressing, pressing, pressing, and pressing
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- And tryin' to fix the relationship the wrong way,
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- Which means things continue to go wrong and we end up pushing
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- People even further away.
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- Now the odd thing about this is on the surface, it doesn't seem
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- Like it should be that difficult to fix a relationship, does it?
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- I mean, it just seems like we should just be able to do this,
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- But it is difficult.
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- And that's why i decided we really do need to talk about it.
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- So i'm gonna give you suggest four decisions that you have to
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- Make to pave the way toward reconciling with another person.
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- Just four decisions that you have to make to reconcile with
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- Other people.
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- We're going to talk about the first one next time.
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- Today's kind of an introduction and a set up for the
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- Entire series.
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- And the best way to understand why this is not intuitive is to
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- Think about your car, okay?
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- We're better at starting our cars and even driving our cars
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- Then repairing our cars, right?
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- You can start it, you can drive it, but when something goes
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- Wrong, you really don't know what to do.
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- And the same thing is true when it comes to relationship.
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- That starting a relationship is somewhat intuitive, managing our
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- You know navigating a relationship is somewhat
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- Intuitive, but fixing a relationship fixing one isn't
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- Only not intuitive, it is the opposite of intuitive.
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- Again, everything we reach for initially is generally the
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- Wrong thing.
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- Our initial moves are almost always the wrong moves and while
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- We know, this is what's so strange about this, while we
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- Know that these four things don't work, we're not even aware
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- Sometimes that we're using them.
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- I want to give you two quick examples to kind of move
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- Us forward.
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- Here is a controlling statement that when you use it you are not
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- Aware of the fact that you were tryin' to control the
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- Other person.
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- In, fact, we hear this statement and media all the time when
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- People make apologies and it sounds a little odd when we
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- Hear it.
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- We don't know why and then we use it, but this is someone who
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- In their mind is thinking, you know what?
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- I'm tryin' to fix this relationship.
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- I'm tryin' to repair this relationship.
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- And so we say things like this i am sorry, if i offended you.
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- I'm sorry, if i offend--i am moving in your direction.
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- I'm tryin' to fix this relationship clearly there's
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- Something wrong.
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- I'm sorry if i offended you.
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- Look how magnanimous of me i'm apologizing.
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- But do you know what this actually communicates?
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- What this communicates is you are too easily offended.
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- That's what that says.
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- I'm sorry, if i offended you.
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- I didn't know i was offending you because well what i said
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- Actually would not have offended most people.
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- So you are less mature than and you are less dialed in than
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- Most people.
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- So, if i offended you--knowing that what i said wouldn't offend
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- Most people--but if i offended you--a little pat on the head
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- You know a little side hug--if i offended you, i am so sorry.
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- And then we wonder why people are like, you know, i just feel
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- So much better.
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- You just insulted them and you didn't mean to but here's why,
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- Because fixing and repairing or reassembling a relationship is
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- Not intuitive.
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- Here's another one.
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- This is both convicting and coercive, somewhat passive
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- Aggressive and we have all been guilty of this.
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- If this does not feel on the other side of us what we think
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- We're making people feel, and again our intentions are good,
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- Our intentions are right, but repairing a relationship isn't
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- Easy and it's not intuitive.
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- I said i'm sorry.
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- Why are you so upset?
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- I said i'm sorry.
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- I mean, i came your direction.
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- I'm acknowledging that i did something wrong.
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- I said i'm sorry.
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- Why are you still upset?
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- It should be fine.
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- I'll translate it: i've done my part.
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- You should be fine now.
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- Since you're not find, clearly, something's wrong with you.
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- You see, i did my part and you're not fine yet so clearly
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- I'm the better person because i said i'm sorry, and you should
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- Accept my apology, and we should be back to where we were before
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- I insulted your parents.
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- You know, we should be back to where we were before i, you
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- Know, criticize you in front of your friends.
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- We should be back to where we were before i said what i said
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- Or did what i did.
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- And we're not back to where we were and i've done my part.
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- So what's wrong with you?
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- But here's the thing resembling a broken relationship,
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- Reassembling a broken relationship is a learned skill
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- And most of us were never taught how to do this and many of us
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- Have never even seen it modeled.
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- Well, just think about some of you think about your parents.
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- Your parents we're estranged from a brother or a sister or
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- Maybe a dear friend they had this friend for years and years
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- And years, and then something happened.
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- And maybe growing up or even as an adult you hear your parents
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- Talkin' about well, you know, this person and every time their
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- Name comes up every time, you know, there's somethin' about
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- Them surfaces you can tell it's just not good.
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- And you've heard their side of the story and even when you hear
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- Their side of the story and-- this isn't just true of your
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- Parents, this is true of a lot of people--when we're on the
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- Outside and we listen to what they are so upset about and we
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- Listen to what divided these people that used to be close
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- Especially family members, isn't it true that on the outside
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- Looking in you think to yourself, listen, that's
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- Just silly.
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- I mean, that's just silly.
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- Just call her.
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- I mean, here's the--pick up your phone and call her.
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- Look, just invite him to lunch.
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- Hey look, why don't you two just go out with that other couple?
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- I mean, why not from the outside looking in just fix it.
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- Just reassemble it.
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- Just reconcile.
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- You don't want to let this thing go on and on and on and on and
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- On, right?
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- Because it leads again to the holiday avoidance dance, you
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- Know, then somebody gets injured or somebody dies then there's
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- A funeral.
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- Or there's again, an accident and suddenly you find yourself
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- In an environment, a very emotional environment--and i've
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- Seen this so many times--and in that moment that thing that was
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- So big, that was so consequential, that mountain
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- Will never get over, that offense that i'll never be able
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- To fully forgive, suddenly in the midst of tragedy, it gets
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- Smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.
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- And in those moments do you know what people do?
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- They do and they say what they should have done and what they
- 00:11:30.908 --> 00:11:35.780
- Should've said a long time ago.
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- And because they didn't do what they should have done or say,
- 00:11:38.983 --> 00:11:40.985
- What they should've said, a long time ago, in some cases, they
- 00:11:40.985 --> 00:11:43.287
- Missed out on years of relationship.
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- And maybe you've had this experience or you've watched it
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- Play out.
- 00:11:49.160 --> 00:11:50.494
- And once, you know people, especially family members come
- 00:11:50.494 --> 00:11:52.797
- Back together and kind of get over whatever it was, it appears
- 00:11:52.797 --> 00:11:57.268
- So small and so inconsequential and they always walk away
- 00:11:57.268 --> 00:12:01.539
- Thinking the same thing, why did it take so long for us to
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- Repair, reconcile, or reassemble?
- 00:12:06.343 --> 00:12:10.614
- That relationship--they spent months or in some cases years
- 00:12:10.614 --> 00:12:13.851
- Just waiting, you know?
- 00:12:13.851 --> 00:12:16.554
- Rehearsing, you know, i'll you know, let me tell you the story
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- One more time, let me tell you this story one more time.
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- Here's the narrative, here's why it's never gonna work out.
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- Or simply avoiding.
- 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.862
- Now here's the thing this is very personal, it's very
- 00:12:26.130 --> 00:12:28.265
- Emotional so i accept that and as we move toward, move through
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- This content.
- 00:12:31.101 --> 00:12:32.436
- Here's the thing.
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- Waiting for the other person, this is what ends up happening,
- 00:12:33.804 --> 00:12:37.308
- You end up waiting for the other person to do what you should do.
- 00:12:37.374 --> 00:12:42.713
- And the reason you should do it is because you're the better
- 00:12:42.780 --> 00:12:45.783
- Person, right?
- 00:12:45.783 --> 00:12:48.919
- You're the--here's how i know you think you're the better
- 00:12:50.154 --> 00:12:51.789
- Person, because when you rehearse those narratives about
- 00:12:51.789 --> 00:12:53.991
- Why things are so bad, it's their fault.
- 00:12:53.991 --> 00:12:56.794
- Well if it's their fault, you're the better person and the better
- 00:12:56.794 --> 00:13:00.197
- Person should initiate reconciling the relationship.
- 00:13:00.197 --> 00:13:05.035
- So back to my dad.
- 00:13:06.070 --> 00:13:07.638
- So we're sitting there this is goin' on and on.
- 00:13:07.638 --> 00:13:09.139
- So finally, i think i've told you this part of the
- 00:13:09.139 --> 00:13:11.175
- Story before.
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- So one afternoon it just so awkward.
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- We're at a mexican restaurant, we hadn't ordered yet, we're
- 00:13:15.813 --> 00:13:18.349
- Sitting there with chips and salsa.
- 00:13:18.349 --> 00:13:20.117
- And literally we're not speaking to each other we are grown men.
- 00:13:20.117 --> 00:13:24.021
- We are pastors.
- 00:13:24.021 --> 00:13:25.356
- Were professional christians.
- 00:13:25.356 --> 00:13:26.724
- We can't have a conversation.
- 00:13:26.724 --> 00:13:29.059
- We are both so angry and so locked down and we both knew how
- 00:13:29.059 --> 00:13:32.596
- Ridiculous it was, again because of how much time we spent with
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- Other people and other couples and other people with difficult
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- Family relationships.
- 00:13:39.603 --> 00:13:41.071
- And then finally, my dad said-- and this is almost a direct
- 00:13:41.071 --> 00:13:43.474
- Quote because i just never forget this moment--he finally
- 00:13:43.474 --> 00:13:47.144
- Looked at me.
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- And he said, "andy, we both know," because we're both
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- Pastors, "we both know what happens to fathers and sons, who
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- Go through something like this," and "i don't want that to happen
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- To us."
- 00:13:58.455 --> 00:14:00.157
- And i said, "me neither."
- 00:14:00.224 --> 00:14:03.427
- The problem was it was happening to us.
- 00:14:03.494 --> 00:14:08.899
- Now, we had an advantage or two.
- 00:14:08.966 --> 00:14:10.834
- One advantage was we both wanted the same thing and we did not
- 00:14:10.901 --> 00:14:15.272
- Want that to happen to us and both of us were willing to work
- 00:14:15.272 --> 00:14:18.776
- At it, but i'm telling you even though both of us were willing
- 00:14:18.776 --> 00:14:21.145
- To work at it it was so, so, so hard.
- 00:14:21.145 --> 00:14:26.216
- Now it's so hard because this is not you know primarily this is
- 00:14:26.283 --> 00:14:31.088
- What makes this so hard is primarily it's just such an
- 00:14:31.155 --> 00:14:33.457
- Emotional thing.
- 00:14:33.457 --> 00:14:34.825
- It's very emotional topic and it's why we just make excuses.
- 00:14:34.825 --> 00:14:42.499
- Now before we move forward and to get practical, i want to set
- 00:14:42.499 --> 00:14:46.270
- Expectations and what i'm about to say is going to sound like
- 00:14:46.270 --> 00:14:49.406
- It's contradicting what i've already said, so i need you to
- 00:14:49.406 --> 00:14:51.442
- Hang with me and if it feels contradictory to you, that's
- 00:14:51.442 --> 00:14:53.944
- My fault.
- 00:14:53.944 --> 00:14:55.312
- I've not explained it well, but this is so important.
- 00:14:55.312 --> 00:14:56.747
- And if i explained this well this is gonna take some pressure
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- Off and make the future a little bit clearer.
- 00:14:59.984 --> 00:15:03.754
- As it relates to reassembling or repairing or restoring adult
- 00:15:03.821 --> 00:15:08.425
- Relationships, not so much with kids this applies to kids, but
- 00:15:08.425 --> 00:15:11.261
- When it comes to reestablishing, repairing adult relationships
- 00:15:11.261 --> 00:15:15.599
- The goal isn't reconciliation.
- 00:15:15.599 --> 00:15:18.836
- This is the part that's confusing.
- 00:15:18.836 --> 00:15:20.204
- The goal isn't reconciliation because unlike a broken toy or a
- 00:15:21.505 --> 00:15:26.176
- Broken dish or a broken iphone screen, when you think about a
- 00:15:26.176 --> 00:15:30.581
- Broken object you have control over all the pieces and you have
- 00:15:30.581 --> 00:15:34.351
- 100% control over the entire process, but when it comes to
- 00:15:34.351 --> 00:15:38.222
- Repairing relationships with other people, we don't have
- 00:15:38.222 --> 00:15:41.625
- Access to all the pieces.
- 00:15:41.625 --> 00:15:44.695
- So we work and we pray toward reconciliation, but
- 00:15:44.762 --> 00:15:49.033
- Reconciliation can't be the goal.
- 00:15:49.033 --> 00:15:51.001
- And here's why, here's just a little relational--maybe worth
- 00:15:51.001 --> 00:15:54.204
- The price of admission.
- 00:15:54.204 --> 00:15:55.572
- Never, ever set a goal for another adult.
- 00:15:55.572 --> 00:15:59.376
- Never set a goal you can set goals for you, but you don't set
- 00:15:59.443 --> 00:16:03.414
- Goals for other adults even adult family members because
- 00:16:03.414 --> 00:16:07.084
- A goal is an agenda.
- 00:16:07.084 --> 00:16:09.186
- I have a goal for you.
- 00:16:09.253 --> 00:16:10.621
- I want you to do something or say something or accomplish
- 00:16:10.621 --> 00:16:13.190
- Something so i have an agenda.
- 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:14.725
- So every time i'm with you, you know what i'm bring into
- 00:16:14.725 --> 00:16:16.660
- The relationship?
- 00:16:16.660 --> 00:16:18.028
- I'm bringing my agenda for you and agendas always, always,
- 00:16:18.028 --> 00:16:22.566
- Always undermine or put a box around relationships.
- 00:16:22.566 --> 00:16:27.204
- This is why your relationship with your boss is friendly is
- 00:16:27.204 --> 00:16:30.340
- Everybody wants to get, there is an agenda.
- 00:16:30.340 --> 00:16:32.576
- He or she hired you to do a job and you are friendly and they
- 00:16:32.576 --> 00:16:36.780
- Are friendly, but you're probably not gonna be
- 00:16:36.780 --> 00:16:38.782
- Lifelong friends.
- 00:16:38.782 --> 00:16:40.150
- You're gonna get along or you're gonna be polite, but if there is
- 00:16:40.150 --> 00:16:42.352
- An agenda with between you are in the room with you and another
- 00:16:42.352 --> 00:16:45.322
- Person, it really is like having a third-party in the room.
- 00:16:45.322 --> 00:16:48.625
- And agendas ensure, they ensure that broken relationships
- 00:16:48.625 --> 00:16:53.163
- Stay broken.
- 00:16:53.163 --> 00:16:56.233
- And this may explain why some of your efforts in the past to
- 00:16:56.233 --> 00:16:59.002
- Restore repair relationship have failed.
- 00:16:59.002 --> 00:17:02.539
- Just make it personal, do you enjoy people who have an agenda
- 00:17:02.606 --> 00:17:07.344
- For you?
- 00:17:07.344 --> 00:17:08.712
- No, because soon as they sit down, your guard is up.
- 00:17:08.712 --> 00:17:11.882
- You know where this is going?
- 00:17:11.882 --> 00:17:13.217
- Again, it's like a third-party, it's like a third person sitting
- 00:17:13.217 --> 00:17:15.953
- At the table.
- 00:17:15.953 --> 00:17:17.287
- Parents, this may explain your kids push back, your adult kids
- 00:17:17.287 --> 00:17:21.425
- Push back, it makes plain why they check their watch when
- 00:17:21.425 --> 00:17:23.894
- Their visiting with you.
- 00:17:23.894 --> 00:17:25.262
- Do you enjoy people who you feel like are always evaluating and
- 00:17:25.262 --> 00:17:29.266
- Judging you?
- 00:17:29.266 --> 00:17:30.634
- No.
- 00:17:30.634 --> 00:17:31.969
- So as we move through this series, we move this content,
- 00:17:31.969 --> 00:17:33.804
- It's very important for you to understand what the goal is,
- 00:17:33.804 --> 00:17:37.107
- What the win is.
- 00:17:37.107 --> 00:17:38.675
- And the goal, here's the goal, here's what we're shooting for,
- 00:17:38.675 --> 00:17:41.044
- This'll take a little pressure off, but it's also gonna put
- 00:17:41.044 --> 00:17:42.946
- Some pressure on.
- 00:17:42.946 --> 00:17:44.314
- The goal in reconciling, the goal in reassembling, the goal
- 00:17:44.314 --> 00:17:48.352
- Is simply no regrets.
- 00:17:48.352 --> 00:17:51.755
- It's knowing that you did everything you could do.
- 00:17:51.755 --> 00:17:55.692
- It's knowing that we did everything we could do that we
- 00:17:55.692 --> 00:17:59.062
- Open the door, that we put out the welcome mat, that we put
- 00:17:59.062 --> 00:18:02.766
- Down the drawbridge, that we put down the weapons, that we
- 00:18:02.766 --> 00:18:06.603
- Removed any unnecessary obstacles to reconnecting with
- 00:18:06.603 --> 00:18:11.842
- That person.
- 00:18:11.842 --> 00:18:13.177
- That essentially, we're gonna learn how to take the pressure
- 00:18:13.177 --> 00:18:16.480
- Off to create space for them to move toward, which means--and
- 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:21.985
- This is kind of the bad, you know the negative side of
- 00:18:21.985 --> 00:18:24.054
- That--which means no matter whose fault it was or whose
- 00:18:24.054 --> 00:18:27.691
- Fault it is, no matter how much of the blame really sits on them
- 00:18:27.691 --> 00:18:31.929
- Versus sits with you, you and i we always have a part in the
- 00:18:31.929 --> 00:18:37.267
- Process of reconciliation.
- 00:18:37.267 --> 00:18:41.471
- Which leads me to this question: why the world are we talking
- 00:18:41.471 --> 00:18:44.575
- About this in church?
- 00:18:44.575 --> 00:18:46.743
- And the answer is obviously, i have run out of topics.
- 00:18:46.743 --> 00:18:53.116
- I figures you need to laugh about now into this message.
- 00:18:53.116 --> 00:18:55.719
- Okay, now the reason we're talkin' about this--and this is
- 00:18:55.719 --> 00:18:58.055
- So cool--and by the way, if you're not a christian or
- 00:18:58.055 --> 00:19:00.123
- A religious person, this is gonna be super practical.
- 00:19:00.123 --> 00:19:02.960
- There's going to be takeaways for everybody, but if you're not
- 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.762
- A religious person or a christian in particular this is
- 00:19:05.762 --> 00:19:08.565
- Why as jesus followers, this isn't really optional for us.
- 00:19:08.565 --> 00:19:13.804
- It's optional if you're not really, you know, you just pick
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- And choose.
- 00:19:16.139 --> 00:19:17.507
- Do what you want i don't have any authority.
- 00:19:17.507 --> 00:19:18.842
- I can't tell you what to do.
- 00:19:18.842 --> 00:19:20.210
- Nobody left me in charge of you, made me the boss of you, but if
- 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:22.312
- You're a jesus follower, not just to be a believer or a
- 00:19:22.312 --> 00:19:24.181
- Christian, but somebody who wakes up every day and decides
- 00:19:24.181 --> 00:19:26.183
- You know what, to the best of my ability i want to follow jesus,
- 00:19:26.183 --> 00:19:29.253
- We don't really have any choice in the matter.
- 00:19:29.253 --> 00:19:34.191
- Because reconciliation, this is so powerful, reconciliation is
- 00:19:34.191 --> 00:19:38.829
- Actually the operative noun in the christian faith.
- 00:19:38.829 --> 00:19:42.766
- And by reconciliation i simply mean restoring a relationship,
- 00:19:42.766 --> 00:19:46.670
- Restoring a relationship.
- 00:19:46.670 --> 00:19:48.639
- The story of our salvation, the story of redemption is a story
- 00:19:48.639 --> 00:19:52.776
- Of reconciliation.
- 00:19:52.776 --> 00:19:54.278
- That god reconciled members of this rebel race unto himself and
- 00:19:54.278 --> 00:19:59.383
- Here's the kicker and here's the trick, and here's the oh, i
- 00:19:59.383 --> 00:20:02.052
- Didn't think about that, your heavenly father was not content
- 00:20:02.052 --> 00:20:07.457
- To simply forgive you.
- 00:20:07.457 --> 00:20:12.429
- Forgiveness, and this is where we get tripped up, forgiveness
- 00:20:12.429 --> 00:20:15.832
- Is only half the equation.
- 00:20:15.832 --> 00:20:18.802
- I can forgive you and never make any attempt to reconcile with
- 00:20:18.802 --> 00:20:25.075
- You, but reconciliation is the win.
- 00:20:25.075 --> 00:20:28.879
- Reconciliation is the win in our relationship with god and
- 00:20:28.879 --> 00:20:32.015
- Reconciliation is the win and our relationship with
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- Each other.
- 00:20:35.585 --> 00:20:36.953
- And according to jesus the two are related.
- 00:20:36.953 --> 00:20:40.757
- When it comes to forgiveness, i hold all the cards.
- 00:20:40.757 --> 00:20:43.860
- I get to make the decision.
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- I'm going to forgive her.
- 00:20:45.629 --> 00:20:47.164
- I'm going to forgive him.
- 00:20:47.164 --> 00:20:48.598
- God forgave me.
- 00:20:48.598 --> 00:20:49.933
- So i'm going to accept my forgiveness from god and i'm
- 00:20:49.933 --> 00:20:52.636
- Gonna forgive other people.
- 00:20:52.636 --> 00:20:54.037
- I hold all the cards.
- 00:20:54.037 --> 00:20:55.405
- I control the outcome.
- 00:20:55.405 --> 00:20:56.873
- I control the entire process.
- 00:20:56.873 --> 00:20:59.543
- But reconciling with people is extraordinarily, extraordinarily
- 00:20:59.543 --> 00:21:03.613
- Emotional sometimes and it's so extraordinarily inconvenient.
- 00:21:03.613 --> 00:21:07.484
- And not only is it inconvenient, and we're gonna talk about this
- 00:21:07.484 --> 00:21:09.586
- A little bit, sometimes unsafe and sometimes it's unwise, but
- 00:21:09.586 --> 00:21:14.791
- Those are the exceptions.
- 00:21:14.791 --> 00:21:16.159
- For the most part, it's just uncomfortable.
- 00:21:16.159 --> 00:21:20.163
- So unfortunately, christianity has been reduced or was reduced
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- To forgiveness.
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- God forgives me.
- 00:21:26.536 --> 00:21:28.105
- I forgive you.
- 00:21:28.105 --> 00:21:29.906
- I'm good to go.
- 00:21:29.906 --> 00:21:31.975
- But the problem with this version of christianity,
- 00:21:31.975 --> 00:21:34.411
- It keeps us looking up.
- 00:21:34.411 --> 00:21:36.380
- It doesn't force us to look around.
- 00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:40.384
- And when you read the gospels, one thing is abundantly clear,
- 00:21:40.384 --> 00:21:43.520
- And this is good news, this is the good news: your heavenly
- 00:21:43.520 --> 00:21:46.857
- Father was not content to simply forgive you.
- 00:21:46.857 --> 00:21:52.763
- That god's forgiveness--this so powerful--god's forgiveness was
- 00:21:52.763 --> 00:21:56.166
- A means to an end.
- 00:21:56.166 --> 00:21:58.869
- That god forgave to remove an obstacle to relationship.
- 00:21:58.935 --> 00:22:03.473
- God forgave to remove an obstacle to reconciliation--the
- 00:22:03.473 --> 00:22:06.576
- Obstacle of sin.
- 00:22:06.576 --> 00:22:07.911
- But the end, the win, his reconciliation, a reassembled
- 00:22:07.911 --> 00:22:13.950
- Relationship with your heavenly father.
- 00:22:13.950 --> 00:22:18.355
- And then as we talk about all the time, at the end of his
- 00:22:18.355 --> 00:22:20.891
- Ministry he gathered with his apostles for that last passover.
- 00:22:20.891 --> 00:22:23.794
- He said, okay, here's your marching orders.
- 00:22:23.794 --> 00:22:26.396
- You are to do for others as i've done for you.
- 00:22:26.396 --> 00:22:30.300
- You are to love others as i have loved you.
- 00:22:30.300 --> 00:22:36.206
- And i was not content to forgive you.
- 00:22:36.206 --> 00:22:39.943
- I went the extra mile to reconcile a relationship
- 00:22:39.943 --> 00:22:45.615
- With you.
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- I want to close with just one verse today and this is
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- Something the apostle paul wrote.
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- And the apostle paul, goodness gracious, did he ever understand
- 00:22:50.454 --> 00:22:53.323
- This, the apostle paul steps onto the pages of history as
- 00:22:53.323 --> 00:22:55.992
- Someone who hates christians, who hates the church.
- 00:22:55.992 --> 00:22:58.295
- He had christians arrested, tortured.
- 00:22:58.295 --> 00:23:01.665
- Apparently, he had christians executed.
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- He stood by watch stephen, the first christian martyr, be
- 00:23:03.834 --> 00:23:06.369
- Stoned and he approved it, and then he went on the war path.
- 00:23:06.369 --> 00:23:09.906
- So imagine what was in his conscience, imagine the guilt,
- 00:23:09.973 --> 00:23:13.510
- And imagine the shame he carried when he became a jesus follower
- 00:23:13.510 --> 00:23:17.180
- And he realized i did all of that and it was all wrong.
- 00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:20.317
- It was all a sin.
- 00:23:20.317 --> 00:23:21.685
- It was horrible.
- 00:23:21.685 --> 00:23:23.286
- And yet god chose the apostle paul and reconciled the apostle
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- Paul to himself.
- 00:23:27.791 --> 00:23:29.125
- Paul understood forgiveness is just half the equation.
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- My heavenly father, in spite of all my sin, did not stop with
- 00:23:32.362 --> 00:23:35.866
- Forgiving me.
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- He chose me, because he was able to have a relationship with me
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- Because he remove the obstacles between himself and me.
- 00:23:42.873 --> 00:23:48.545
- And then he wrote this, to all of us: "in your relationships
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- With one another," which relationships?
- 00:23:54.985 --> 00:23:56.386
- All of them.
- 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:58.321
- "in your relationships with one another," which relationships?
- 00:23:58.321 --> 00:24:00.690
- All of 'em--the easy ones, the hard ones, the ones that are
- 00:24:00.690 --> 00:24:03.293
- Busted, the ones that are, you know, hitting on all cylinders.
- 00:24:03.293 --> 00:24:06.630
- In all your relationships with one another, what's he gonna
- 00:24:06.630 --> 00:24:09.733
- Say, what do you want me to do?
- 00:24:09.733 --> 00:24:11.134
- What could possibly and encapsulate or what could
- 00:24:11.134 --> 00:24:14.004
- Possibly be so big and so broad is to be able to say it about
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- Every single relationship?
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- "in your relationships with one another," this is so powerful,
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- "have the same mindset;" or in other words, think the same way,
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- "as christ jesus," your lord.
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- In all of your relationships, this is amazing, it's all
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- Encompassing, it's so powerful, and all of your relationships i
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- Want you to approach them the way your heavenly father
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- Demonstrated his approach through how jesus
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- Approached relationships.
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- And what was jesus mindset when it came to relationships?
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- Remember the the story?
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- If you grew up in church, you've heard this and back even if you
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- Didn't grow up in church, you probably heard this "the parable
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- Of the hundred sheep," you know "the lost sheep" we call it?
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- He said it was a shepherd's got a hundred sheep and this one
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- Sheep wanders off, and the good shepherd leaves the 99 and goes
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- After the one.
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- The way we do it is, one sheep wanders off and we think to
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- Ourself rogue sheep.
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- If that sheep would like to rejoin the rest of the group of
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- Sheep, we're easy to find, there's 99 of us.
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- So we're just gonna go on about our business and when they get
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- Their act together, hey, we will welcome them back into the fold,
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- But i'm not gonna go lookin' for it.
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- How did jesus approach relationships with people who
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- Were offensive and who position themselves as enemies?
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- This drove religious leaders crazy.
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- The religious leaders couldn't understand jesus.
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- And they would say, jesus, why do you move in their direction?
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- You should just preach and then when they repent of their sin
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- Then they will move in your direction.
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- And he could have said, because i have come to do the will of my
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- Father in heaven.
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- And this is my heavenly father's approach.
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- The people who are sinful and offensive and our outside the
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- Circle of fellowship.
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- But here's what he--he actually said he said to the pharisees on
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- One occasion, "jesus answered them and said, 'it's not the
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- Healthy who need a doctor."'
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- It's not the healthy who need a doctor and i'm a doctor.
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- "it's not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick."
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- But jesus said i didn't come for the people who got
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- It altogether.
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- I came for the people who have broken their relationship with
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- Their father in heaven.
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- I've not come to call the righteous, i've not come to call
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- On the righteous, i've not come to move toward the righteous,
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- But i've come to call "sinners to repentance."
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- And i can't do that from a distance.
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- We're almost done.
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- Jesus says, i can forgive from a distance, but i can't reconcile
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- From a distance.
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- Reconciliation, reassembling, requires proximity.
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- It requires us moving toward the unreconciled.
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- And if we choose to follow jesus, this is what we will do.
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- We will move and we will remove every single obstacle possible
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- Because the goal isn't reconciliation.
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- That's beyond our control.
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- The goal the goal is no regrets.
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- The goal is to remove every single obstacle we can remove
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- Which paves the way toward what hopefully ends
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- With reconciliation.
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- Andy: well, thanks so much for watching.
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- And as a special thank you, we've developed
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- Some resources with you in mind.
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- And the best part is they're absolutely free,
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- Just go to the website at the bottom of your screen,
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- And you'll find tools for deepening your faith,
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- Including study guides and a gratitude guide.
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- Again, thanks so much for watching.
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- And we will see you right back here next time
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- On "your move."
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