Andy Stanley - How To Start Repairing Broken Relationships (Part 1)

January 18, 2025 | S25:E4

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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andy Stanley - How To Start Repairing Broken Relationships (Part 1) | January 18, 2025
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  • Andy stanley: hi everybody, welcome to "your move" where we
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  • Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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  • I'm andy stanley, and i'll be your guide.
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  • Now, relationships if you think about it, relationships are
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  • A lot like cars, right?
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  • We are way better at starting them than fixing them when they
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  • Break and we think about it starting a relationship is
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  • Somewhat intuitive, but have you ever tried to fix
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  • A broken relationship?
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  • Maybe with a coworker or a friend or maybe even a parent.
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  • That is not intuitive and all this but there is a way to fix
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  • Broken relationships.
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  • And that's what we're talkin' about today
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  • Right here on "your move," stick around.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Andy: so i'm 27, yeah, 27 years ago,
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  • I'm sitting in my dad's office
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  • At his church, it was just my dad, and there's two of us and
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  • A counselor again.
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  • And we're meeting with our counselor every week trying to
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  • Figure out how to fix our broken, damaged relationship.
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  • And the strange thing is if you can, you know, kinda put
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  • Yourself in our position for just a minute.
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  • We've spend our whole careers, telling people how to fix
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  • Broken, damaged relationships and now we had one and we're the
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  • Experts and we were stuck and we we're angry and we were hurt.
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  • And here's why: because he saw things his way and i saw things
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  • The right way.
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  • And i could not understand for the life of me why we weren't
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  • Making any progress, right?
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  • I mean, it was the simple, dad, if you will just see things my
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  • Way will be on our way, right?
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  • Now you laugh and the reason you laugh is because i what you're
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  • Thinking, you're thinking finally, someone understands me.
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  • Finally someone understands the situation and the circumstances
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  • I'm in as i try to navigate difficult relationships.
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  • If you think about your current fractured relationship or a
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  • Distant fractured relationship that's actually just been it's
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  • Been broken for a long, long time.
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  • It can be recent, distant can be family, work, a good friend and
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  • There's just been this weird thing and now, you know, it's
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  • Just awkward and you can tell you're drifting apart or maybe
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  • It's a brother or sister again, you know, a family member, but
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  • Isn't it true?
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  • I mean, isn't it true that if they would just see it your way
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  • Everything would be okay.
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  • So, since we all have that in common, i thought for the next
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  • Few weeks, we would address a question that i know that many
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  • Of you have been asking maybe for many, many years.
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  • And the question is what's wrong with these people?
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  • Because until they see things your way, which is the right
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  • Way, they're just holding up progress, they're just making it
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  • Awkward for your family.
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  • Nobody can move forward, the family's in turmoil, it's ruined
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  • One thanksgiving or two or three, it's about to ruin
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  • Another one or christmas.
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  • And again, if they would just see things your way things will
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  • Be okay.
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  • And so for the next few weeks, we're gonna talk about how to
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  • Get them to see things your way.
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  • I wanna just jump right in because this is a little
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  • Bit complicated.
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  • To get people to see things your way and--this is the bonus--
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  • And to get them to apologize, you have to--i know--you're
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  • Just relieved.
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  • This why you're laughing.
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  • Finally somebody's getting you to talk about something
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  • Practical up here.
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  • You're gonna have to master the tools for
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  • Relationship management.
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  • And this is important to remember: remember, people need
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  • To be managed.
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  • So i came up with what i call "the c4 approach to
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  • Relationship management."
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  • Now, c4 is also a common variety plastic explosive--that is
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  • Completely coincidental.
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  • Okay, "the c4 approach to relationship management."
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  • This approach, the perception of this approach is that it brings
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  • People together, but in reality, it's not bringing people
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  • Together, it's bringing people towards you so they can see the
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  • World the way that you.
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  • Do and they're never even gonna know it's happening.
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  • Now there are four components to this is why it's called "the c4
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  • Approach to relationship management" and here they are.
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  • I'm going to give them to you upfront and we're gonna talk
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  • About one every week.
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  • I'm convince, convict, coerce, control.
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  • Convinced, convict.
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  • I'll start with c and make this simple.
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  • Convinced we're gonna master these.
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  • Convince, convict, coerce, control.
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  • So we're gonna take each one of these over the next four weeks
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  • And kinda tease it out and i'm gonna teach you how to
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  • Master this.
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  • Now if you have or if you're harboring any doubts regarding
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  • The effectiveness of this approach to relationships just
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  • Consider how effective this has been and bringing our
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  • Nation together.
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  • I know, right?
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  • Because after all you respond and i respond, we all respond
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  • Well to being convinced of things and convicted of things,
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  • Shaming and coercing and being controlled, right?
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  • I'm mean don't these just help draw you closer to the people
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  • Around you?
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  • I mean, don't we all know this is the way forward?
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  • No, of course it's not.
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  • Didn't work on you doesn't work on me.
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  • It doesn't work on anybody but here's the odd thing, the
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  • Strange thing.
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  • This is why we're gonna talk about it for a few weeks.
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  • The strange thing is even though you look at that and you go,
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  • Yeah that, that's not the way forward.
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  • In spite of all, that these are the things we almost always
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  • Reach for first either intentionally or as we're gonna
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  • See even unintentionally.
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  • We reach for them first and they make things worse.
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  • Nothing gets resolved, nothing gets settled, and then you tell
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  • Yourself, well, there's nothing i can do about it.
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  • I tried and besides that, you know what, i just don't
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  • Even care.
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  • I just don't even care.
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  • Or, we just keep pressing, pressing, pressing, and pressing
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  • And tryin' to fix the relationship the wrong way,
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  • Which means things continue to go wrong and we end up pushing
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  • People even further away.
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  • Now the odd thing about this is on the surface, it doesn't seem
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  • Like it should be that difficult to fix a relationship, does it?
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  • I mean, it just seems like we should just be able to do this,
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  • But it is difficult.
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  • And that's why i decided we really do need to talk about it.
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  • So i'm gonna give you suggest four decisions that you have to
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  • Make to pave the way toward reconciling with another person.
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  • Just four decisions that you have to make to reconcile with
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  • Other people.
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  • We're going to talk about the first one next time.
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  • Today's kind of an introduction and a set up for the
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  • Entire series.
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  • And the best way to understand why this is not intuitive is to
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  • Think about your car, okay?
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  • We're better at starting our cars and even driving our cars
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  • Then repairing our cars, right?
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  • You can start it, you can drive it, but when something goes
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  • Wrong, you really don't know what to do.
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  • And the same thing is true when it comes to relationship.
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  • That starting a relationship is somewhat intuitive, managing our
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  • You know navigating a relationship is somewhat
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  • Intuitive, but fixing a relationship fixing one isn't
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  • Only not intuitive, it is the opposite of intuitive.
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  • Again, everything we reach for initially is generally the
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  • Wrong thing.
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  • Our initial moves are almost always the wrong moves and while
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  • We know, this is what's so strange about this, while we
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  • Know that these four things don't work, we're not even aware
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  • Sometimes that we're using them.
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  • I want to give you two quick examples to kind of move
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  • Us forward.
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  • Here is a controlling statement that when you use it you are not
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  • Aware of the fact that you were tryin' to control the
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  • Other person.
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  • In, fact, we hear this statement and media all the time when
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  • People make apologies and it sounds a little odd when we
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  • Hear it.
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  • We don't know why and then we use it, but this is someone who
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  • In their mind is thinking, you know what?
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  • I'm tryin' to fix this relationship.
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  • I'm tryin' to repair this relationship.
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  • And so we say things like this i am sorry, if i offended you.
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  • I'm sorry, if i offend--i am moving in your direction.
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  • I'm tryin' to fix this relationship clearly there's
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  • Something wrong.
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  • I'm sorry if i offended you.
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  • Look how magnanimous of me i'm apologizing.
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  • But do you know what this actually communicates?
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  • What this communicates is you are too easily offended.
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  • That's what that says.
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  • I'm sorry, if i offended you.
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  • I didn't know i was offending you because well what i said
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  • Actually would not have offended most people.
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  • So you are less mature than and you are less dialed in than
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  • Most people.
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  • So, if i offended you--knowing that what i said wouldn't offend
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  • Most people--but if i offended you--a little pat on the head
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  • You know a little side hug--if i offended you, i am so sorry.
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  • And then we wonder why people are like, you know, i just feel
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  • So much better.
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  • You just insulted them and you didn't mean to but here's why,
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  • Because fixing and repairing or reassembling a relationship is
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  • Not intuitive.
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  • Here's another one.
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  • This is both convicting and coercive, somewhat passive
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  • Aggressive and we have all been guilty of this.
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  • If this does not feel on the other side of us what we think
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  • We're making people feel, and again our intentions are good,
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  • Our intentions are right, but repairing a relationship isn't
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  • Easy and it's not intuitive.
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  • I said i'm sorry.
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  • Why are you so upset?
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  • I said i'm sorry.
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  • I mean, i came your direction.
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  • I'm acknowledging that i did something wrong.
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  • I said i'm sorry.
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  • Why are you still upset?
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  • It should be fine.
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  • I'll translate it: i've done my part.
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  • You should be fine now.
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  • Since you're not find, clearly, something's wrong with you.
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  • You see, i did my part and you're not fine yet so clearly
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  • I'm the better person because i said i'm sorry, and you should
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  • Accept my apology, and we should be back to where we were before
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  • I insulted your parents.
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  • You know, we should be back to where we were before i, you
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  • Know, criticize you in front of your friends.
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  • We should be back to where we were before i said what i said
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  • Or did what i did.
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  • And we're not back to where we were and i've done my part.
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  • So what's wrong with you?
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  • But here's the thing resembling a broken relationship,
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  • Reassembling a broken relationship is a learned skill
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  • And most of us were never taught how to do this and many of us
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  • Have never even seen it modeled.
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  • Well, just think about some of you think about your parents.
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  • Your parents we're estranged from a brother or a sister or
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  • Maybe a dear friend they had this friend for years and years
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  • And years, and then something happened.
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  • And maybe growing up or even as an adult you hear your parents
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  • Talkin' about well, you know, this person and every time their
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  • Name comes up every time, you know, there's somethin' about
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  • Them surfaces you can tell it's just not good.
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  • And you've heard their side of the story and even when you hear
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  • Their side of the story and-- this isn't just true of your
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  • Parents, this is true of a lot of people--when we're on the
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  • Outside and we listen to what they are so upset about and we
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  • Listen to what divided these people that used to be close
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  • Especially family members, isn't it true that on the outside
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  • Looking in you think to yourself, listen, that's
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  • Just silly.
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  • I mean, that's just silly.
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  • Just call her.
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  • I mean, here's the--pick up your phone and call her.
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  • Look, just invite him to lunch.
  • 00:10:39.156 --> 00:10:40.858
  • Hey look, why don't you two just go out with that other couple?
  • 00:10:40.925 --> 00:10:43.961
  • I mean, why not from the outside looking in just fix it.
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  • Just reassemble it.
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  • Just reconcile.
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  • You don't want to let this thing go on and on and on and on and
  • 00:10:50.468 --> 00:10:52.737
  • On, right?
  • 00:10:52.737 --> 00:10:54.105
  • Because it leads again to the holiday avoidance dance, you
  • 00:10:54.105 --> 00:10:56.207
  • Know, then somebody gets injured or somebody dies then there's
  • 00:10:56.207 --> 00:11:01.345
  • A funeral.
  • 00:11:01.345 --> 00:11:02.880
  • Or there's again, an accident and suddenly you find yourself
  • 00:11:02.947 --> 00:11:07.518
  • In an environment, a very emotional environment--and i've
  • 00:11:07.518 --> 00:11:10.855
  • Seen this so many times--and in that moment that thing that was
  • 00:11:10.855 --> 00:11:14.325
  • So big, that was so consequential, that mountain
  • 00:11:14.325 --> 00:11:17.328
  • Will never get over, that offense that i'll never be able
  • 00:11:17.328 --> 00:11:20.064
  • To fully forgive, suddenly in the midst of tragedy, it gets
  • 00:11:20.064 --> 00:11:25.102
  • Smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.
  • 00:11:25.102 --> 00:11:28.038
  • And in those moments do you know what people do?
  • 00:11:28.038 --> 00:11:30.908
  • They do and they say what they should have done and what they
  • 00:11:30.908 --> 00:11:35.780
  • Should've said a long time ago.
  • 00:11:35.780 --> 00:11:38.983
  • And because they didn't do what they should have done or say,
  • 00:11:38.983 --> 00:11:40.985
  • What they should've said, a long time ago, in some cases, they
  • 00:11:40.985 --> 00:11:43.287
  • Missed out on years of relationship.
  • 00:11:43.287 --> 00:11:46.924
  • And maybe you've had this experience or you've watched it
  • 00:11:46.924 --> 00:11:49.160
  • Play out.
  • 00:11:49.160 --> 00:11:50.494
  • And once, you know people, especially family members come
  • 00:11:50.494 --> 00:11:52.797
  • Back together and kind of get over whatever it was, it appears
  • 00:11:52.797 --> 00:11:57.268
  • So small and so inconsequential and they always walk away
  • 00:11:57.268 --> 00:12:01.539
  • Thinking the same thing, why did it take so long for us to
  • 00:12:01.539 --> 00:12:06.343
  • Repair, reconcile, or reassemble?
  • 00:12:06.343 --> 00:12:10.614
  • That relationship--they spent months or in some cases years
  • 00:12:10.614 --> 00:12:13.851
  • Just waiting, you know?
  • 00:12:13.851 --> 00:12:16.554
  • Rehearsing, you know, i'll you know, let me tell you the story
  • 00:12:16.554 --> 00:12:19.223
  • One more time, let me tell you this story one more time.
  • 00:12:19.223 --> 00:12:20.825
  • Here's the narrative, here's why it's never gonna work out.
  • 00:12:20.825 --> 00:12:23.360
  • Or simply avoiding.
  • 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.862
  • Now here's the thing this is very personal, it's very
  • 00:12:26.130 --> 00:12:28.265
  • Emotional so i accept that and as we move toward, move through
  • 00:12:28.265 --> 00:12:31.101
  • This content.
  • 00:12:31.101 --> 00:12:32.436
  • Here's the thing.
  • 00:12:32.436 --> 00:12:33.804
  • Waiting for the other person, this is what ends up happening,
  • 00:12:33.804 --> 00:12:37.308
  • You end up waiting for the other person to do what you should do.
  • 00:12:37.374 --> 00:12:42.713
  • And the reason you should do it is because you're the better
  • 00:12:42.780 --> 00:12:45.783
  • Person, right?
  • 00:12:45.783 --> 00:12:48.919
  • You're the--here's how i know you think you're the better
  • 00:12:50.154 --> 00:12:51.789
  • Person, because when you rehearse those narratives about
  • 00:12:51.789 --> 00:12:53.991
  • Why things are so bad, it's their fault.
  • 00:12:53.991 --> 00:12:56.794
  • Well if it's their fault, you're the better person and the better
  • 00:12:56.794 --> 00:13:00.197
  • Person should initiate reconciling the relationship.
  • 00:13:00.197 --> 00:13:05.035
  • So back to my dad.
  • 00:13:06.070 --> 00:13:07.638
  • So we're sitting there this is goin' on and on.
  • 00:13:07.638 --> 00:13:09.139
  • So finally, i think i've told you this part of the
  • 00:13:09.139 --> 00:13:11.175
  • Story before.
  • 00:13:11.175 --> 00:13:12.543
  • So one afternoon it just so awkward.
  • 00:13:12.543 --> 00:13:15.746
  • We're at a mexican restaurant, we hadn't ordered yet, we're
  • 00:13:15.813 --> 00:13:18.349
  • Sitting there with chips and salsa.
  • 00:13:18.349 --> 00:13:20.117
  • And literally we're not speaking to each other we are grown men.
  • 00:13:20.117 --> 00:13:24.021
  • We are pastors.
  • 00:13:24.021 --> 00:13:25.356
  • Were professional christians.
  • 00:13:25.356 --> 00:13:26.724
  • We can't have a conversation.
  • 00:13:26.724 --> 00:13:29.059
  • We are both so angry and so locked down and we both knew how
  • 00:13:29.059 --> 00:13:32.596
  • Ridiculous it was, again because of how much time we spent with
  • 00:13:32.596 --> 00:13:36.400
  • Other people and other couples and other people with difficult
  • 00:13:36.400 --> 00:13:39.603
  • Family relationships.
  • 00:13:39.603 --> 00:13:41.071
  • And then finally, my dad said-- and this is almost a direct
  • 00:13:41.071 --> 00:13:43.474
  • Quote because i just never forget this moment--he finally
  • 00:13:43.474 --> 00:13:47.144
  • Looked at me.
  • 00:13:47.144 --> 00:13:48.512
  • And he said, "andy, we both know," because we're both
  • 00:13:48.512 --> 00:13:51.715
  • Pastors, "we both know what happens to fathers and sons, who
  • 00:13:51.715 --> 00:13:54.985
  • Go through something like this," and "i don't want that to happen
  • 00:13:54.985 --> 00:13:58.455
  • To us."
  • 00:13:58.455 --> 00:14:00.157
  • And i said, "me neither."
  • 00:14:00.224 --> 00:14:03.427
  • The problem was it was happening to us.
  • 00:14:03.494 --> 00:14:08.899
  • Now, we had an advantage or two.
  • 00:14:08.966 --> 00:14:10.834
  • One advantage was we both wanted the same thing and we did not
  • 00:14:10.901 --> 00:14:15.272
  • Want that to happen to us and both of us were willing to work
  • 00:14:15.272 --> 00:14:18.776
  • At it, but i'm telling you even though both of us were willing
  • 00:14:18.776 --> 00:14:21.145
  • To work at it it was so, so, so hard.
  • 00:14:21.145 --> 00:14:26.216
  • Now it's so hard because this is not you know primarily this is
  • 00:14:26.283 --> 00:14:31.088
  • What makes this so hard is primarily it's just such an
  • 00:14:31.155 --> 00:14:33.457
  • Emotional thing.
  • 00:14:33.457 --> 00:14:34.825
  • It's very emotional topic and it's why we just make excuses.
  • 00:14:34.825 --> 00:14:42.499
  • Now before we move forward and to get practical, i want to set
  • 00:14:42.499 --> 00:14:46.270
  • Expectations and what i'm about to say is going to sound like
  • 00:14:46.270 --> 00:14:49.406
  • It's contradicting what i've already said, so i need you to
  • 00:14:49.406 --> 00:14:51.442
  • Hang with me and if it feels contradictory to you, that's
  • 00:14:51.442 --> 00:14:53.944
  • My fault.
  • 00:14:53.944 --> 00:14:55.312
  • I've not explained it well, but this is so important.
  • 00:14:55.312 --> 00:14:56.747
  • And if i explained this well this is gonna take some pressure
  • 00:14:56.747 --> 00:14:59.984
  • Off and make the future a little bit clearer.
  • 00:14:59.984 --> 00:15:03.754
  • As it relates to reassembling or repairing or restoring adult
  • 00:15:03.821 --> 00:15:08.425
  • Relationships, not so much with kids this applies to kids, but
  • 00:15:08.425 --> 00:15:11.261
  • When it comes to reestablishing, repairing adult relationships
  • 00:15:11.261 --> 00:15:15.599
  • The goal isn't reconciliation.
  • 00:15:15.599 --> 00:15:18.836
  • This is the part that's confusing.
  • 00:15:18.836 --> 00:15:20.204
  • The goal isn't reconciliation because unlike a broken toy or a
  • 00:15:21.505 --> 00:15:26.176
  • Broken dish or a broken iphone screen, when you think about a
  • 00:15:26.176 --> 00:15:30.581
  • Broken object you have control over all the pieces and you have
  • 00:15:30.581 --> 00:15:34.351
  • 100% control over the entire process, but when it comes to
  • 00:15:34.351 --> 00:15:38.222
  • Repairing relationships with other people, we don't have
  • 00:15:38.222 --> 00:15:41.625
  • Access to all the pieces.
  • 00:15:41.625 --> 00:15:44.695
  • So we work and we pray toward reconciliation, but
  • 00:15:44.762 --> 00:15:49.033
  • Reconciliation can't be the goal.
  • 00:15:49.033 --> 00:15:51.001
  • And here's why, here's just a little relational--maybe worth
  • 00:15:51.001 --> 00:15:54.204
  • The price of admission.
  • 00:15:54.204 --> 00:15:55.572
  • Never, ever set a goal for another adult.
  • 00:15:55.572 --> 00:15:59.376
  • Never set a goal you can set goals for you, but you don't set
  • 00:15:59.443 --> 00:16:03.414
  • Goals for other adults even adult family members because
  • 00:16:03.414 --> 00:16:07.084
  • A goal is an agenda.
  • 00:16:07.084 --> 00:16:09.186
  • I have a goal for you.
  • 00:16:09.253 --> 00:16:10.621
  • I want you to do something or say something or accomplish
  • 00:16:10.621 --> 00:16:13.190
  • Something so i have an agenda.
  • 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:14.725
  • So every time i'm with you, you know what i'm bring into
  • 00:16:14.725 --> 00:16:16.660
  • The relationship?
  • 00:16:16.660 --> 00:16:18.028
  • I'm bringing my agenda for you and agendas always, always,
  • 00:16:18.028 --> 00:16:22.566
  • Always undermine or put a box around relationships.
  • 00:16:22.566 --> 00:16:27.204
  • This is why your relationship with your boss is friendly is
  • 00:16:27.204 --> 00:16:30.340
  • Everybody wants to get, there is an agenda.
  • 00:16:30.340 --> 00:16:32.576
  • He or she hired you to do a job and you are friendly and they
  • 00:16:32.576 --> 00:16:36.780
  • Are friendly, but you're probably not gonna be
  • 00:16:36.780 --> 00:16:38.782
  • Lifelong friends.
  • 00:16:38.782 --> 00:16:40.150
  • You're gonna get along or you're gonna be polite, but if there is
  • 00:16:40.150 --> 00:16:42.352
  • An agenda with between you are in the room with you and another
  • 00:16:42.352 --> 00:16:45.322
  • Person, it really is like having a third-party in the room.
  • 00:16:45.322 --> 00:16:48.625
  • And agendas ensure, they ensure that broken relationships
  • 00:16:48.625 --> 00:16:53.163
  • Stay broken.
  • 00:16:53.163 --> 00:16:56.233
  • And this may explain why some of your efforts in the past to
  • 00:16:56.233 --> 00:16:59.002
  • Restore repair relationship have failed.
  • 00:16:59.002 --> 00:17:02.539
  • Just make it personal, do you enjoy people who have an agenda
  • 00:17:02.606 --> 00:17:07.344
  • For you?
  • 00:17:07.344 --> 00:17:08.712
  • No, because soon as they sit down, your guard is up.
  • 00:17:08.712 --> 00:17:11.882
  • You know where this is going?
  • 00:17:11.882 --> 00:17:13.217
  • Again, it's like a third-party, it's like a third person sitting
  • 00:17:13.217 --> 00:17:15.953
  • At the table.
  • 00:17:15.953 --> 00:17:17.287
  • Parents, this may explain your kids push back, your adult kids
  • 00:17:17.287 --> 00:17:21.425
  • Push back, it makes plain why they check their watch when
  • 00:17:21.425 --> 00:17:23.894
  • Their visiting with you.
  • 00:17:23.894 --> 00:17:25.262
  • Do you enjoy people who you feel like are always evaluating and
  • 00:17:25.262 --> 00:17:29.266
  • Judging you?
  • 00:17:29.266 --> 00:17:30.634
  • No.
  • 00:17:30.634 --> 00:17:31.969
  • So as we move through this series, we move this content,
  • 00:17:31.969 --> 00:17:33.804
  • It's very important for you to understand what the goal is,
  • 00:17:33.804 --> 00:17:37.107
  • What the win is.
  • 00:17:37.107 --> 00:17:38.675
  • And the goal, here's the goal, here's what we're shooting for,
  • 00:17:38.675 --> 00:17:41.044
  • This'll take a little pressure off, but it's also gonna put
  • 00:17:41.044 --> 00:17:42.946
  • Some pressure on.
  • 00:17:42.946 --> 00:17:44.314
  • The goal in reconciling, the goal in reassembling, the goal
  • 00:17:44.314 --> 00:17:48.352
  • Is simply no regrets.
  • 00:17:48.352 --> 00:17:51.755
  • It's knowing that you did everything you could do.
  • 00:17:51.755 --> 00:17:55.692
  • It's knowing that we did everything we could do that we
  • 00:17:55.692 --> 00:17:59.062
  • Open the door, that we put out the welcome mat, that we put
  • 00:17:59.062 --> 00:18:02.766
  • Down the drawbridge, that we put down the weapons, that we
  • 00:18:02.766 --> 00:18:06.603
  • Removed any unnecessary obstacles to reconnecting with
  • 00:18:06.603 --> 00:18:11.842
  • That person.
  • 00:18:11.842 --> 00:18:13.177
  • That essentially, we're gonna learn how to take the pressure
  • 00:18:13.177 --> 00:18:16.480
  • Off to create space for them to move toward, which means--and
  • 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:21.985
  • This is kind of the bad, you know the negative side of
  • 00:18:21.985 --> 00:18:24.054
  • That--which means no matter whose fault it was or whose
  • 00:18:24.054 --> 00:18:27.691
  • Fault it is, no matter how much of the blame really sits on them
  • 00:18:27.691 --> 00:18:31.929
  • Versus sits with you, you and i we always have a part in the
  • 00:18:31.929 --> 00:18:37.267
  • Process of reconciliation.
  • 00:18:37.267 --> 00:18:41.471
  • Which leads me to this question: why the world are we talking
  • 00:18:41.471 --> 00:18:44.575
  • About this in church?
  • 00:18:44.575 --> 00:18:46.743
  • And the answer is obviously, i have run out of topics.
  • 00:18:46.743 --> 00:18:53.116
  • I figures you need to laugh about now into this message.
  • 00:18:53.116 --> 00:18:55.719
  • Okay, now the reason we're talkin' about this--and this is
  • 00:18:55.719 --> 00:18:58.055
  • So cool--and by the way, if you're not a christian or
  • 00:18:58.055 --> 00:19:00.123
  • A religious person, this is gonna be super practical.
  • 00:19:00.123 --> 00:19:02.960
  • There's going to be takeaways for everybody, but if you're not
  • 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.762
  • A religious person or a christian in particular this is
  • 00:19:05.762 --> 00:19:08.565
  • Why as jesus followers, this isn't really optional for us.
  • 00:19:08.565 --> 00:19:13.804
  • It's optional if you're not really, you know, you just pick
  • 00:19:13.804 --> 00:19:16.139
  • And choose.
  • 00:19:16.139 --> 00:19:17.507
  • Do what you want i don't have any authority.
  • 00:19:17.507 --> 00:19:18.842
  • I can't tell you what to do.
  • 00:19:18.842 --> 00:19:20.210
  • Nobody left me in charge of you, made me the boss of you, but if
  • 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:22.312
  • You're a jesus follower, not just to be a believer or a
  • 00:19:22.312 --> 00:19:24.181
  • Christian, but somebody who wakes up every day and decides
  • 00:19:24.181 --> 00:19:26.183
  • You know what, to the best of my ability i want to follow jesus,
  • 00:19:26.183 --> 00:19:29.253
  • We don't really have any choice in the matter.
  • 00:19:29.253 --> 00:19:34.191
  • Because reconciliation, this is so powerful, reconciliation is
  • 00:19:34.191 --> 00:19:38.829
  • Actually the operative noun in the christian faith.
  • 00:19:38.829 --> 00:19:42.766
  • And by reconciliation i simply mean restoring a relationship,
  • 00:19:42.766 --> 00:19:46.670
  • Restoring a relationship.
  • 00:19:46.670 --> 00:19:48.639
  • The story of our salvation, the story of redemption is a story
  • 00:19:48.639 --> 00:19:52.776
  • Of reconciliation.
  • 00:19:52.776 --> 00:19:54.278
  • That god reconciled members of this rebel race unto himself and
  • 00:19:54.278 --> 00:19:59.383
  • Here's the kicker and here's the trick, and here's the oh, i
  • 00:19:59.383 --> 00:20:02.052
  • Didn't think about that, your heavenly father was not content
  • 00:20:02.052 --> 00:20:07.457
  • To simply forgive you.
  • 00:20:07.457 --> 00:20:12.429
  • Forgiveness, and this is where we get tripped up, forgiveness
  • 00:20:12.429 --> 00:20:15.832
  • Is only half the equation.
  • 00:20:15.832 --> 00:20:18.802
  • I can forgive you and never make any attempt to reconcile with
  • 00:20:18.802 --> 00:20:25.075
  • You, but reconciliation is the win.
  • 00:20:25.075 --> 00:20:28.879
  • Reconciliation is the win in our relationship with god and
  • 00:20:28.879 --> 00:20:32.015
  • Reconciliation is the win and our relationship with
  • 00:20:32.015 --> 00:20:35.585
  • Each other.
  • 00:20:35.585 --> 00:20:36.953
  • And according to jesus the two are related.
  • 00:20:36.953 --> 00:20:40.757
  • When it comes to forgiveness, i hold all the cards.
  • 00:20:40.757 --> 00:20:43.860
  • I get to make the decision.
  • 00:20:43.860 --> 00:20:45.629
  • I'm going to forgive her.
  • 00:20:45.629 --> 00:20:47.164
  • I'm going to forgive him.
  • 00:20:47.164 --> 00:20:48.598
  • God forgave me.
  • 00:20:48.598 --> 00:20:49.933
  • So i'm going to accept my forgiveness from god and i'm
  • 00:20:49.933 --> 00:20:52.636
  • Gonna forgive other people.
  • 00:20:52.636 --> 00:20:54.037
  • I hold all the cards.
  • 00:20:54.037 --> 00:20:55.405
  • I control the outcome.
  • 00:20:55.405 --> 00:20:56.873
  • I control the entire process.
  • 00:20:56.873 --> 00:20:59.543
  • But reconciling with people is extraordinarily, extraordinarily
  • 00:20:59.543 --> 00:21:03.613
  • Emotional sometimes and it's so extraordinarily inconvenient.
  • 00:21:03.613 --> 00:21:07.484
  • And not only is it inconvenient, and we're gonna talk about this
  • 00:21:07.484 --> 00:21:09.586
  • A little bit, sometimes unsafe and sometimes it's unwise, but
  • 00:21:09.586 --> 00:21:14.791
  • Those are the exceptions.
  • 00:21:14.791 --> 00:21:16.159
  • For the most part, it's just uncomfortable.
  • 00:21:16.159 --> 00:21:20.163
  • So unfortunately, christianity has been reduced or was reduced
  • 00:21:20.163 --> 00:21:25.168
  • To forgiveness.
  • 00:21:25.168 --> 00:21:26.536
  • God forgives me.
  • 00:21:26.536 --> 00:21:28.105
  • I forgive you.
  • 00:21:28.105 --> 00:21:29.906
  • I'm good to go.
  • 00:21:29.906 --> 00:21:31.975
  • But the problem with this version of christianity,
  • 00:21:31.975 --> 00:21:34.411
  • It keeps us looking up.
  • 00:21:34.411 --> 00:21:36.380
  • It doesn't force us to look around.
  • 00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:40.384
  • And when you read the gospels, one thing is abundantly clear,
  • 00:21:40.384 --> 00:21:43.520
  • And this is good news, this is the good news: your heavenly
  • 00:21:43.520 --> 00:21:46.857
  • Father was not content to simply forgive you.
  • 00:21:46.857 --> 00:21:52.763
  • That god's forgiveness--this so powerful--god's forgiveness was
  • 00:21:52.763 --> 00:21:56.166
  • A means to an end.
  • 00:21:56.166 --> 00:21:58.869
  • That god forgave to remove an obstacle to relationship.
  • 00:21:58.935 --> 00:22:03.473
  • God forgave to remove an obstacle to reconciliation--the
  • 00:22:03.473 --> 00:22:06.576
  • Obstacle of sin.
  • 00:22:06.576 --> 00:22:07.911
  • But the end, the win, his reconciliation, a reassembled
  • 00:22:07.911 --> 00:22:13.950
  • Relationship with your heavenly father.
  • 00:22:13.950 --> 00:22:18.355
  • And then as we talk about all the time, at the end of his
  • 00:22:18.355 --> 00:22:20.891
  • Ministry he gathered with his apostles for that last passover.
  • 00:22:20.891 --> 00:22:23.794
  • He said, okay, here's your marching orders.
  • 00:22:23.794 --> 00:22:26.396
  • You are to do for others as i've done for you.
  • 00:22:26.396 --> 00:22:30.300
  • You are to love others as i have loved you.
  • 00:22:30.300 --> 00:22:36.206
  • And i was not content to forgive you.
  • 00:22:36.206 --> 00:22:39.943
  • I went the extra mile to reconcile a relationship
  • 00:22:39.943 --> 00:22:45.615
  • With you.
  • 00:22:45.615 --> 00:22:46.983
  • I want to close with just one verse today and this is
  • 00:22:46.983 --> 00:22:49.119
  • Something the apostle paul wrote.
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  • And the apostle paul, goodness gracious, did he ever understand
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  • This, the apostle paul steps onto the pages of history as
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  • Someone who hates christians, who hates the church.
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  • He had christians arrested, tortured.
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  • Apparently, he had christians executed.
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  • He stood by watch stephen, the first christian martyr, be
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  • Stoned and he approved it, and then he went on the war path.
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  • So imagine what was in his conscience, imagine the guilt,
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  • And imagine the shame he carried when he became a jesus follower
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  • And he realized i did all of that and it was all wrong.
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  • It was all a sin.
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  • It was horrible.
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  • And yet god chose the apostle paul and reconciled the apostle
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  • Paul to himself.
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  • Paul understood forgiveness is just half the equation.
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  • My heavenly father, in spite of all my sin, did not stop with
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  • Forgiving me.
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  • He chose me, because he was able to have a relationship with me
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  • Because he remove the obstacles between himself and me.
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  • And then he wrote this, to all of us: "in your relationships
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  • With one another," which relationships?
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  • All of them.
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  • "in your relationships with one another," which relationships?
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  • All of 'em--the easy ones, the hard ones, the ones that are
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  • Busted, the ones that are, you know, hitting on all cylinders.
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  • In all your relationships with one another, what's he gonna
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  • Say, what do you want me to do?
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  • What could possibly and encapsulate or what could
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  • Possibly be so big and so broad is to be able to say it about
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  • Every single relationship?
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  • "in your relationships with one another," this is so powerful,
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  • "have the same mindset;" or in other words, think the same way,
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  • "as christ jesus," your lord.
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  • In all of your relationships, this is amazing, it's all
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  • Encompassing, it's so powerful, and all of your relationships i
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  • Want you to approach them the way your heavenly father
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  • Demonstrated his approach through how jesus
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  • Approached relationships.
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  • And what was jesus mindset when it came to relationships?
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  • Remember the the story?
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  • If you grew up in church, you've heard this and back even if you
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  • Didn't grow up in church, you probably heard this "the parable
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  • Of the hundred sheep," you know "the lost sheep" we call it?
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  • He said it was a shepherd's got a hundred sheep and this one
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  • Sheep wanders off, and the good shepherd leaves the 99 and goes
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  • After the one.
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  • The way we do it is, one sheep wanders off and we think to
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  • Ourself rogue sheep.
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  • If that sheep would like to rejoin the rest of the group of
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  • Sheep, we're easy to find, there's 99 of us.
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  • So we're just gonna go on about our business and when they get
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  • Their act together, hey, we will welcome them back into the fold,
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  • But i'm not gonna go lookin' for it.
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  • How did jesus approach relationships with people who
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  • Were offensive and who position themselves as enemies?
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  • This drove religious leaders crazy.
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  • The religious leaders couldn't understand jesus.
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  • And they would say, jesus, why do you move in their direction?
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  • You should just preach and then when they repent of their sin
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  • Then they will move in your direction.
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  • And he could have said, because i have come to do the will of my
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  • Father in heaven.
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  • And this is my heavenly father's approach.
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  • The people who are sinful and offensive and our outside the
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  • Circle of fellowship.
  • 00:26:04.881 --> 00:26:07.617
  • But here's what he--he actually said he said to the pharisees on
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  • One occasion, "jesus answered them and said, 'it's not the
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  • Healthy who need a doctor."'
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  • It's not the healthy who need a doctor and i'm a doctor.
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  • "it's not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick."
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  • But jesus said i didn't come for the people who got
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  • It altogether.
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  • I came for the people who have broken their relationship with
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  • Their father in heaven.
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  • I've not come to call the righteous, i've not come to call
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  • On the righteous, i've not come to move toward the righteous,
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  • But i've come to call "sinners to repentance."
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  • And i can't do that from a distance.
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  • We're almost done.
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  • Jesus says, i can forgive from a distance, but i can't reconcile
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  • From a distance.
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  • Reconciliation, reassembling, requires proximity.
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  • It requires us moving toward the unreconciled.
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  • And if we choose to follow jesus, this is what we will do.
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  • We will move and we will remove every single obstacle possible
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  • Because the goal isn't reconciliation.
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  • That's beyond our control.
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  • The goal the goal is no regrets.
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  • The goal is to remove every single obstacle we can remove
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  • Which paves the way toward what hopefully ends
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  • With reconciliation.
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