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Andy Stanley - Miracles: Then and Now (Part 4)

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Andy stanley: hi, everybody, welcome to "your move," where we
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Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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I'm andy stanley, and i'll be your guide.
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So have you ever needed a miracle, asked god for a
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Miracle, and nothing?
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And did it leave you wondering if god even still performs
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Miracles, and if so why didn't you get yours?
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Maybe you were asking wrong or maybe you were praying wrong or
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Were you believing wrong or maybe just not believing enough?
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If that has been your experience or the experience of someone
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Close to you, stick around because today we are tackling
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The big questions about miracles right here on "your move."
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Andy: today we're finishing up our series "miracles: then and
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Now," and i want to begin with something that you might be
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Familiar with.
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Perhaps you're familiar with this phrase: the
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Goldilocks zone.
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No, okay. the habitable zone?
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I've been practicing saying habitable all week.
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It's not an easy word to say.
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The goldilocks zone and the habitable zone, this is the
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Distance from a star, the distance from a star that where
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Conditions are ideal for liquid water
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To exist on a planet's surface.
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Okay, you may or may not remember this.
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And liquid water is important because liquid water is what
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Enables a planet to sustain life, because if it's too hot,
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The water boils away, if the water is too cold, it
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Freezes, it freezes, right.
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So the good news for you and for me is planet earth, planet
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Earth, it's not too hot, it's not too cold, it's just right.
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Okay, some of you got that right because you may not remember
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Science class, but you remember "goldilocks and three bears."
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Okay, so anyway, so that's where this comes from.
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The goldilocks zone is the--we--we're in that orbit
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Where it's a perfect distance, and so consequently our planet
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Sustains life.
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So with that in mind, today i want to talk about a different
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Zone that actually sets things up to happen that don't normally
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Happen as well, and we're going to
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Call it--and i just made this up.
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We're going to call it the miracle zone.
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More on that in just a moment.
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Today, if you haven't been with us or if you haven't been with
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Us in a long time, we are wrapping up this series
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"miracles: then and now."
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And if you're not a particularly religious person and as soon as
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You see the word miracles, you're like, "oh, great, i came
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At the wrong time or i'm watching at the wrong time,"
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Because you're skepticable--skepticable.
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You're skeptical as it relates--i got
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Habitable correct.
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Anyway, you're skeptical as it relates to miracles.
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And if you're skeptical about miracles, you should be.
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And the reason that you should be is because a miracle isn't
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Just something that's unusual like your boss remembered
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Your name.
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You might have felt like that was a miracle, you know, he or
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She finally got it right, but that's not really a miracle,
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It's just something unusual, right?
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So miracles aren't just things that are unusual.
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And the reason you should be skeptical as it relates to
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Miracles, miracles aren't unusual, miracles are actually
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Impossible because a miracle is a temporary suspension or
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Reversal of the laws of nature.
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Yet in spite of this, from the very beginning, christians have
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Believed that miracles are not only possible but we
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Are--they're not only possible but we--excuse me.
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We believe miracles are possible and we believe they're actually
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An essential part of being a christian.
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And the reason we believe that, of course--and even if you're
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Not a christian, even if you're a theist, you believe in some
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Other god or some other version of god, not the christian god,
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You get this.
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We believe in a god who created the universe and, in creating
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The universe, created the laws of nature.
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So since god created the laws of nature, we believe, maybe you
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Believe as well, probably, that god is not bound by the laws of
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Nature that god created and that when god chooses, god can
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Reverse or suspend temporarily the very laws that he put in
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To motion.
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So the possibility and reality of miracles is actually
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Fundamental to christianity, which means--and don't leave
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Early if this is kind of like, you know, maybe somebody finally
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Talked you into watching or brought you to church for the
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First time.
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Which means in order to be a christian, you have to believe
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In miracles.
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But as we talked about in part one, you really only have to
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Believe in two miracles to be a christian, and one of the
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Miracles is something that you already believe in.
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So we're not going to go back and review all of that.
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That's part one of the series.
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So we're moving on.
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But if we're--when it comes to miracles, if we're super honest,
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Whether you're a religious person or not, and this includes
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All of us, me--certainly includes me, what we really want
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To know when it comes to the topic of miracles is this: how
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Do i get me one?
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How do i get one or how do i get one for somebody i love and
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Somebody i care about, right, for somebody that's close to me?
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Which is totally legitimate.
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In fact, we talked about in week two that we are invited, we are
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Invited to come to our heavenly father with all of our requests,
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Regardless of how unreasonable they may seem.
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So this isn't a diss for those of us, you know, people who are
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Praying for miracles.
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But as we talked about as well in part two, there is
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No formula.
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There's no formula.
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And anybody tries to sell you a book with the formula, just save
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Your money.
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There's no formula because--and this should be comforting,
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Not discouraging.
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Because miracles are at god's discretion to further god's
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Purposes in the world.
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So the good news is you can't control your heavenly father
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Because he is large and in charge.
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And we are invited to accept that.
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So here--here's the thing.
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While both the old and new testament underscore the fact
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That miracles are for god's discretion, for god's purposes,
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The old and new testament also underscores something else as it
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Relates to miracles.
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That while there is no formula, there is--and this is what we're
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Going to talk about.
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There is a posture.
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There is a posture that puts you and puts me in what we're
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Calling the miracle zone.
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And the posture that puts us in the miracle zone is the posture
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Of submission and obedience to our heavenly father, or we may
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Say of submission to and obedience to our king who is
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Jesus, who came to establish his kingdom in the hearts and lives
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Of people and to establish his kingdom on planet earth.
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It's the posture of--we talk about it all the time.
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It's the posture of, "thy will--not my will, thy will be
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Done when it makes sense and when it doesn't."
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And the reason that that posture puts us in the miracle zone is
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Exactly what i've stated twice already.
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That miracles, miracles are at god's discretion to further
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God's purposes.
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So when you are surrendered to and when i am surrendered to my
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Father in heaven, we are living our lives in sync with his
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Purposes on earth, which means you are in line for god to do
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The unusual through you if it furthers his purposes on earth.
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Now, there are so many examples of this in the old and the
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New testament.
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And i thought it would be fun to go back into the old testament
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And choose a story that you may be somewhat familiar with.
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If you didn't grow up in church, you may have never heard this
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Story before.
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It doesn't get a lot of airplay, but it's a very significant
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Story and it illustrates from the old testament this
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Very principle.
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Now, i'm going to tell you the story before i read you the
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Story, and then i'll tell you why i told you the story before
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I read you the story.
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But the main character in this story is a military leader who
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Was asked to do something way below his status,
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Way below his dignity.
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In fact, it was--what he was asked to do was
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Really insulting.
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It made absolutely no sense.
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And so naturally, he resisted.
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It's like, "you know, it's no way i'm going to do that."
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And then at the last minute, some wise people came around him
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And they said, "at least, hey, maybe you should try this."
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And so he changes his mind and he does the thing he's been
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Asked to do, and as a result of that, he experienced a miracle
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That he would have missed otherwise.
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And my point in spoiling the story before i tell you the
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Story goes back to something i've told you so many times and
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I've--you know, i'm going to
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Come back to this over and over and over.
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And i guess it's kind of a life message or a life theme for me
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That i've experienced, and many of you have experienced as well.
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And that's this.
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You have no idea, you have no idea what hangs in the balance
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Of your decision to submit to and to follow jesus.
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You have no idea what's on the other side of your decision to
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Submit to and to follow jesus.
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We think we do because when we're faced with decisions and
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It's like, "there's no way i would do that.
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Nobody does it that way. that never works out.
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I know where that's going to go," we all think we're fortune
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Tellers, that we can predict our own futures, but the
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Reality--and if you've been a christian for a long time, you
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Get this.
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You have stories.
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You really don't, i really don't know what's on the other side of
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A decision to follow jesus or to say yes to our heavenly father
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When he asks us or requires us to do something unusual out of
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The ordinary, maybe something nobody else is doing or to step
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Into something we don't feel we're prepared for.
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So saying yes positions you for the unexpected, perhaps the
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Unexplainable, perhaps a miracle.
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So if you're wrestling with a really difficult decision, a
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Decision that may have a bit of an ethical or a moral edge to
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It, as you think about your dilemma, you think about it in
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Terms of two options, but you aren't, you aren't just choosing
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Between two options, you are choosing a posture.
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And this is what we miss and this is why this story is so
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Important and this is why we're closing this series with
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This topic.
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You're--we think in terms of options, "i can do a,
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I can b--do b, i can do this, i can do that."
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But in reality, if there's a moral or ethical component to
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The decision you're wrestling with, you are actually choosing
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A posture.
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You're choosing a posture of surrender to your heavenly
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Father or you're choosing a posture of independence.
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"it's my life. i do whatever i want."
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That's--it's you're choosing a posture between, "thy will be
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Done or my will be done."
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And one of those postures, the posture of surrender is an
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Invitation for your heavenly father to intervene in your life
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Because you don't know what's on the other side of your surrender
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To your heavenly father or to your savior.
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And i'm pleading with you today, regardless of your religious
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Background, regardless of where you are on the whole--you know,
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Whole faith spectrum, you're new, you've been a christian for
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A long time, to adopt the posture of surrender to your
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Heavenly father and to your king because it positions you for the
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Unusual, and you don't know what hangs in the balance of your
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Decision to follow jesus.
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So all that to say this.
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This is not simply a story for us, this is a story about us.
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And i think that'll become clear as i tell you the whole story.
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So from the old testament book of 2 kings, this is chapter 5.
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This takes place in the ninth century bc, so way before jesus
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And long after the kingdom of israel has been established.
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And here's how the story opens.
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And this is the name you may be somewhat familiar with if,
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Like me, you grew up in church, here's how it goes.
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The text says this: "now naaman was commander of the army of the
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King of aram."
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Aram was a country, kind of a country, way north of israel in
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Modern day syria.
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So naaman was the commander of the army of the king of aram and
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He was a great man.
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That means everybody in his nation knew him and everybody
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South of him knew him, as we're going to discover.
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"he was a great man in the sight of his master," who was the
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King, "and highly regarded, because through him the lord had
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Given victory to aram."
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So aram's kind of the military big dog on the map in this
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Region of the world.
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The text goes on to say that naaman was a valiant soldier,
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But he had a problem.
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He had leprosy.
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And in ancient times this was considered contagious.
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In ancient times this was considered a long
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Death sentence.
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Unsightly sores, many people with leprosy eventually lost
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Their eyesight, they lost the feeling in their fingers and
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Toes and extremities, and consequently they lost their
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Extremities oftentimes.
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Again, a slow death sentence, but what made it even worse to
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Some extent, if it could be worse, is it included alienation
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From society and from your family because everyone was
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Afraid of you.
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You became sort of a monster, an outcast, which it made things
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Even worse.
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Well, fortunately, naaman's wife--after he got this
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Diagnosis, naaman's wife had a slave girl that had been
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Captured in one of the border skirmishes between israel to the
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South and aram to the north.
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And she finds out with the family that naaman has leprosy,
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And she goes to her mistress, her--the lady who controlled her
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Or basically owned her, and she said to naaman's wife, she said,
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"if only my master," naaman, "would see the prophet who was
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In samaria."
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South in israel.
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"he," the prophet, "would cure naaman of his leprosy."
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So naaman's wife says, "hey, this is a long shot, but, you
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Know, so and so here says there's a miracle worker.
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There's somebody that can do magic in israel.
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You know, it's worth a shot."
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So naaman goes to his boss, king ben-hadad, who's the king of
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Aram, and says, "hey, it's worth a shot."
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So king ben-hadad's like, "absolutely.
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You're a national treasure.
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You're so valuable to us."
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So king ben-hadad writes a letter to the king, king joram
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Of israel to take--to send it with naaman to go down there and
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Ask to be healed, to ask for a miracle.
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And we actually have a copy of the letter.
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Here's what the letter said.
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It said, "with this letter--" this is from the king of aram.
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"with this letter i'm sending my servant naaman to you, that
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You," the king, "may cure him of his leprosy."
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So he got a little bit confused.
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Something got confused in translation.
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So then the king gives naaman some gold and some silver and
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Some changes of clothes.
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So this is basically, "hey, if you cure naaman, here's a reward
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For, you know, helping us out."
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So naaman loads up the gold and the silver and the changes of
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Clothes on several wagons.
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He's got soldiers with him, it's like an entourage, and he heads
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South to see the king.
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So he has an audience with the king of israel.
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The king of israel reads the letter from the king of aram.
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And the text says that when he read the letter, he tore
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His robe.
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This is a sign of anguish and mourning.
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And he's like, "oh, no.
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Did--wait, wait.
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Does king ben-hadad think that i'm god?
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Does king ben-hadad think that i'm a god that i can actually
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Cure somebody of leprosy?"
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And he's so distraught.
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Then he's like, "ah, i know what's going on here.
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He knows i can't cure anybody of leprosy.
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He knows that i'm going to say i can't do it.
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And then naaman's going to return north, and then king
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Ben-hadad's going to use this as an excuse to come over our
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Borders and break our treaty.
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Now i know what's up."
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So he is just distraught and stalls, and he's trying to
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Figure out, "what should i do with this situation?"
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Meanwhile, somebody slips out the back and goes down to this
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Little village outside of where they were and finds elisha and
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Tells elisha what's going on.
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Elisha sends the messenger back and tells the king, "send this
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Man to me."
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So the king of israel says, "you got the wrong guy.
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I know the right guy."
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And he sends naaman to see elisha the prophet.
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So when naaman shows up at this little village, there's probably
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Nobody on the street.
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Everybody is--you know, they're hiding out and they've taken the
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Women, the children, and the silver, and, you know,
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Everybody's gone.
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So he pulls up.
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And the text says, "so naaman went with his horses and
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Chariots," it's a big ordeal, "and stopped at the door of
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Elisha's house."
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And the streets are empty.
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And, of course, naaman expects elisha to come out and, you
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Know, bow and scrape and show all respect 'cause naaman's a
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Big name and he's a big guy and, you know, he's an important
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Person and he's used to people--you know, it's kind of
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Sucking up a little bit.
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I mean, this--he--he's like second most important person in
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His whole country.
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And what happens next is amazing.
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Elisha sent a messenger.
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He didn't even come out of his house.
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I mean, there's all this racket.
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"it's not like didn't know we were here."
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"elisha sent a messenger to say to him," to naaman, "'go wash
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Yourself seven times in the jordan river, and your flesh
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Will be restored and you will be cleansed.'"
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And then this messenger ducks back inside elisha's house.
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And naaman is furious.
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Nobody talks to him this way.
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Nobody treats him this way.
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This is such an insult.
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And now he starts ranting and raving.
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"i thought he would surely," talking about elisha,
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"i thought he would surely come out here and stand in front of
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Me, call on the name of the lord his god, wave his hands over the
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Spot and cure me of my leprosy."
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He was expecting some kind of elaborate ceremony.
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"we're going to slaughter a thousand sheep and an oxen, and
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There's going to be singers and, you know, there's--this is going
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To be like a thing.
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And at the end of the thing, whatever it looks like, i'm
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Going to be cured.
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This prophet didn't even have the decency to greet me."
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And then he keeps ranting.
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He says, "besides that, the rivers in our country are way
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Cleaner than the rivers of this filthy country.
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I mean, seriously, if i needed a bath--i mean, you're telling me
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To go wash myself?
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If i needed a bath, i could take a bath in my own country.
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They are mocking us."
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And he turns around, gets on his chariot and he's about to leave
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Because this doesn't make any sense, and then he was not about
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To make a spectacle of himself publicly.
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And there you are, and there i have been, and there i will
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Be again.
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"wait, god.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you want me to do what?
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What--you want me to break up?
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Do you know how long it's--wait, wait, you want me to reconcile
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With her or with him?
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You want me to recon--it's like, you want me to be--you want me
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To apologize?
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You want me to consider going back into--wait.
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You want me to walk away from all that?
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Are you seriously--these opportunities come once in a
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Lifetime, and you--i'm supposed to walk away from--you want me
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To give up a week of my vacation and go where and do what?"
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And there's that tension.
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And somebody today watching or in the room,
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You're--you--you're wrestling.
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You got a decision to make.
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And there's an ethical, moral, maybe kind of a religious edge
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To this, and it's too much.
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It's just over the top, and you're struggling.
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And it doesn't make any sense, and people will not understand,
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And it will cost you, and there's no guarantee.
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You're absolutely right.
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Would you like to experience god on the other side?
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Do you want to position yourself for the unusual, maybe
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The supernatural?
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Then you choose the posture of surrender.
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"not my will, even though my will makes a whole lot more
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Sense than your will.
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Not my will, your will be done, and not as a means to an end
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Other than i'm surrendered to my king."
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This isn't a formula.
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This isn't a ploy.
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This is simply, "i'm going to live in the posture
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Of surrender.
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And if you choose me to further your purposes through my
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Surrender, have at it.
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And however you choose to do, it's fine.
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If it's suffering, if it's a miracle, if it's something
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Unusual, i'm yours."
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That's what it looks like every single day to follow jesus.
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Back to the story.
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"so naaman's servants--" so he's in a--i mean, he is mad.
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He is insulted.
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If there hadn't been a treaty, he may have razed the
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Whole village.
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We don't know.
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"naaman's servants went to him and said, 'my father,"
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He's--'cause he's about to leave.
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"if the prophet had told you to do some great thing, would you
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Not have done it?"
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"in other words, if the prophet had come out and waved his hands
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And said, 'in order to be healed of your leprosy you must go into
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The hills and you must slay the twin mountain lions who steal
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Our sheep and attack our farmers.'
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Wouldn't you have done that?"
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He'd be like, "absolutely. i would grab my javelins.
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I would have been--you know, i would have charged
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The hill with fire."
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And they're like, "okay, well, if you would have done
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Some great thing, why not do this?
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I mean, we're here.
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Yes, it's beneath you, yes, it's humiliating, but why not?"
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So he does.
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He listens to this wise counsel.
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"and so he went down and dipped himself in the jordan river
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Seven times, just as the man of god had told him, and his flesh
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Was restored and he became clean like that of a young boy."
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And then naaman and all the entourage
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Goes back to the village.
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And this time elisha is standing outside, waiting.
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"then naaman and all his attendants went
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Back to the man of god.
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And he stood before them, and naaman said to elisha, 'that was
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Quite a trick.
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How'd you do that?'"
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No, that's not what he said.
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You can take that off.
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This is the point of the story.
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This is the point of your story, of my story, of your story.
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This is the point of obedience.
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The point of the miracle turned out that the point of the
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Miracle, the point of the whole narrative has nothing to do with
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Leprosy or even healing, and it had everything to do with
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Eye-opening, perspective-changing,
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Faith-building revelation.
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And as a pastor, this is the experience i want for every
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Single one of you and every single one of your kids and
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Every single one of your teenagers and every single
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Christian everywhere, for all of us, to experience obedience
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Intersecting with god's faithfulness because you don't
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Know what's on the other side.
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And at the end of the day, you don't want to miss it.
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And when you miss it, you don't even know what you've missed.
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And as you see in the story, naaman isn't just healed,
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Which--'cause that's not even the point.
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Naaman has changed.
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Listen to how the story winds down.
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"then naaman and all of his attendants went back to the man
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Of god.
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And he stood before him and said, 'now i know there is no
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God in all the world,'" which was a big statement because he
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Had been worshiping other gods.
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And all the gods were, you know, associated with certain
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Territories, we're going to see.
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And now he's like, "oh my goodness.
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Whoa, whoa.
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What just happened to me? oh my goodness.
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I'm convinced there is no other god in the whole world except
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In israel."
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And then he offers elisha a gift.
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He's like, "bring the gold and the silver and give him all ten
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Changes of clothes."
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And elisha is like, "no."
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He refuses it.
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This is why elisha didn't go out to greet him in the first place.
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He didn't want naaman to think it's magic.
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He didn't want naaman to think he's anything special
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About elisha.
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He didn't want naaman to think there's some kind of formula.
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Elisha stays in the house so that when this story plays out,
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Naaman knows who's behind it, because god accomplished through
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This miracle his purposes in the world and his purposes in his
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Nation at the time for his people.
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Naaman insists, "no, no, no.
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You've got to take something."
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And elisha is like, "i'm not taking anything."
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And then naaman asks elisha for something.
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Dirt.
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This is so fascinating.
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"if you will not," and he says, "'if you will not take a gift
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From me,' said naaman, 'please let me, your servant, be given
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As much earth,'" or dirt, "'as a pair of mules can carry.'"
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Which is a good bit of dirt.
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Why?
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He says, "well, because your servant," this is amazing, "will
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Never again make burnt offerings and sacrifices to any other god
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But" your god, "the lord."
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No talk of leprosy, no talk of healing.
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He's had an encounter with the living god.
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And the reason he wanted the dirt was because back then in
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Ancient times it was believed that a deity could be worshiped
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Only on the soil of the territory over which the
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Deity ruled.
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So his thinking is this: "my gods reign over my dirt.
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Your gods reign over this dirt.
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This is better dirt 'cause you got a better god.
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So from now on i got to worship this god over in my dirt, but i
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Need some of this dirt or i--'cause i'm where--either way,
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I've met the god of all the world who's the greatest god in
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All the world, and i want some of this, your god dirt, so i can
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Worship your god for the rest of my life."
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He wanted to take israel dirt to damascus to worship
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Israel's god.
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Obedience, surrender, submission.
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This is the posture that sets you up for an encounter
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With god.
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And it may be unusual, it may be miraculous, but it will do
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Something inside of you that overwhelms whatever the details
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Are associated with whatever it is you're wrestling with.
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And this isn't a bribe, it's a posture.
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Again, it's the posture that positions you to further god's
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Purposes in the world, which may entail a miracle, but always
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Entails god's faithfulness.
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It's why--and i know we talk about it all the time, but it's
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Why jesus instructed us to pray the way he instructed us
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To pray.
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Remember, he says, "when you pray, you pray, 'thy will be
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Done, not my will be done.'"
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Thy will be done, not my will be done.
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And think of the language now as we think about this story.
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He says, "thy will be done on earth.
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On the dirt i walk on, the pavement i walk on, wherever i
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Go, i want your will to be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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Just as you reign in heaven, i want you to reign over my life
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On planet earth."
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So what are you wrestling with?
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What's going on inside your heart?
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What are you debating?
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You kind of know, but you don't really know where that's going
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To lead, and it kind of scares you, so you're kind of listening
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To the people that are confirming your biases,
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You know?
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What are you wrestling with?
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And i know it's a silly question to ask, but are you cured?
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Would you like to experience god?
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You want to position yourself for the unusual, maybe the
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Supernatural or what will feel like a miraculous supernatural
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Event for you?
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It's the posture.
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It's the miracle zone.
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It's the posture of surrender.
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"not my will, your will."
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To be a means to an end that is not you.
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To be a means to glory that's not your glory.
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To be a means to an end that ultimately brings glory to god
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Because miracles, the supernatural, the unusual, they
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Are god's plan or they are god's way of manifesting his presence
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And his activity in the world to accomplish his purpose in
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The world.
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So last time, what are you wrestling with?
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What's going on?
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Let me ask you in a different way real quick.
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When this is over with, whatever you're wrestling with right now,
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When it's in the past, what story do you want to tell?
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When this is just a story you telling one day--i know it's
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Huge, it's your marriage, it's your kids, it's work, it's
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Money, it's that--but one day this is just a story you tell.
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And what story do you want to tell?
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A story of god's faithfulness or a story of, "i got this?"
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Resistance and maybe regret, but for sure never knowing what god
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Might have done through you and in you if you would just embrace
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The posture of surrender.
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The posture of surrender is the posture of the jesus follower.
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It's the posture that positions you for the unexpected and maybe
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A miracle.
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What are you wrestling with?
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Why not just say yes to your father in heaven?
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Andy: hey, everybody. thank you so much for tuning in.
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Andy Stanley - Miracles: Then and Now (Part 4)

May 10, 2025 | 28:29

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