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February 27, 2025

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  • Tonight on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:00:01.224 --> 00:00:03.359
  • For the very first time
  • 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:04.828
  • On any television network, we'll show you “the 21”,
  • 00:00:04.828 --> 00:00:08.731
  • The powerful, evocative to film.
  • 00:00:08.731 --> 00:00:11.000
  • A true story
  • 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.202
  • About 21 christian men from egypt and ghana
  • 00:00:12.202 --> 00:00:15.905
  • Who were kidnaped and martyred by isis
  • 00:00:15.905 --> 00:00:18.775
  • Ten years ago, this month, but refused to renounce
  • 00:00:18.775 --> 00:00:22.412
  • Their faith in jesus.
  • 00:00:22.412 --> 00:00:23.847
  • We'll also interview the producers of “the 21”
  • 00:00:23.847 --> 00:00:27.050
  • And let you know how you can show this film
  • 00:00:27.050 --> 00:00:30.220
  • In your church, sunday school class, or home
  • 00:00:30.220 --> 00:00:33.056
  • Fellowship group.
  • 00:00:33.056 --> 00:00:34.290
  • The worldwide television premiere of “the 21” tonight
  • 00:00:34.290 --> 00:00:38.394
  • And the rosenberg report.
  • 00:00:38.394 --> 00:00:48.771
  • Good evening, and welcome to the rosenberg report.
  • 00:00:49.806 --> 00:00:51.541
  • We're going to show you this film tonight.
  • 00:00:51.541 --> 00:00:53.243
  • Last week we told you about the film.
  • 00:00:53.243 --> 00:00:55.545
  • We showed you an interview that we did in cairo
  • 00:00:55.545 --> 00:00:59.415
  • With jonathan roumie, the wonderful, brilliant,
  • 00:00:59.415 --> 00:01:02.051
  • Extraordinary actor who plays jesus in the global phenomenon
  • 00:01:02.051 --> 00:01:06.122
  • Tv show the chosen and jonathan and i and my wife and my team
  • 00:01:06.122 --> 00:01:11.995
  • And the team that produced this movie, the 21.
  • 00:01:11.995 --> 00:01:15.865
  • We were all in cairo just a few weeks ago
  • 00:01:15.865 --> 00:01:19.335
  • Screening this film, showing it to egyptian christians
  • 00:01:19.335 --> 00:01:22.472
  • For their first time to see it.
  • 00:01:22.472 --> 00:01:24.107
  • It was my first time to see it and how moved i was.
  • 00:01:24.107 --> 00:01:27.844
  • And what happened since that show last week
  • 00:01:27.844 --> 00:01:30.480
  • Is the producers said, well, you know what?
  • 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.483
  • The film is only 13 minutes long.
  • 00:01:33.483 --> 00:01:35.251
  • We haven't thought about
  • 00:01:35.251 --> 00:01:36.352
  • Putting it on television yet, but with the rosenberg
  • 00:01:36.352 --> 00:01:40.056
  • Report like the permission to show the whole film, why?
  • 00:01:40.056 --> 00:01:43.993
  • So that you're not only so that you can see it?
  • 00:01:43.993 --> 00:01:46.229
  • Yes, obviously we we said immediately, yes,
  • 00:01:46.229 --> 00:01:48.865
  • We would love that, but not just because we want you to see it.
  • 00:01:48.865 --> 00:01:52.735
  • I want you to watch this
  • 00:01:52.735 --> 00:01:55.471
  • And then think, okay, lord, this is moving.
  • 00:01:55.471 --> 00:01:58.708
  • This is powerful.
  • 00:01:58.708 --> 00:01:59.943
  • What can i do to share this film with others?
  • 00:01:59.943 --> 00:02:03.346
  • We don't want this to be a one off
  • 00:02:03.346 --> 00:02:05.215
  • Tonight on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:00:01.224 --> 00:00:03.359
  • Where you just watched this film tonight.
  • 00:02:05.215 --> 00:02:08.251
  • For the very first time
  • 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:04.828
  • As moving as it is, as powerful it is. it's not a story
  • 00:02:08.251 --> 00:02:11.988
  • On any television network, we'll show you “the 21”,
  • 00:00:04.828 --> 00:00:08.731
  • That should be kept to ourselves.
  • 00:02:11.988 --> 00:02:13.723
  • The powerful, evocative to film.
  • 00:00:08.731 --> 00:00:11.000
  • I think it has a lot of relevance.
  • 00:02:13.723 --> 00:02:16.593
  • Tonight on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:00:01.224 --> 00:00:03.359
  • We are heading into deeper prophetic waters, right?
  • 00:02:16.593 --> 00:02:20.296
  • For the very first time
  • 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:04.828
  • A true story
  • 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.202
  • On any television network, we'll show you “the 21”,
  • 00:00:04.828 --> 00:00:08.731
  • About 21 christian men from egypt and ghana
  • 00:00:12.202 --> 00:00:15.905
  • Prophetic times where persecution
  • 00:02:20.296 --> 00:02:22.398
  • Who were kidnaped and martyred by isis
  • 00:00:15.905 --> 00:00:18.775
  • The powerful, evocative to film.
  • 00:00:08.731 --> 00:00:11.000
  • Ten years ago, this month, but refused to renounce
  • 00:00:18.775 --> 00:00:22.412
  • Tonight on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:00:01.224 --> 00:00:03.359
  • Their faith in jesus.
  • 00:00:22.412 --> 00:00:23.847
  • We'll also interview the producers of “the 21”
  • 00:00:23.847 --> 00:00:27.050
  • And let you know how you can show this film
  • 00:00:27.050 --> 00:00:30.220
  • In your church, sunday school class, or home
  • 00:00:30.220 --> 00:00:33.056
  • Fellowship group.
  • 00:00:33.056 --> 00:00:34.290
  • The worldwide television premiere of “the 21” tonight
  • 00:00:34.290 --> 00:00:38.394
  • And the rosenberg report.
  • 00:00:38.394 --> 00:00:48.771
  • Good evening, and welcome to the rosenberg report.
  • 00:00:49.806 --> 00:00:51.541
  • We're going to show you this film tonight.
  • 00:00:51.541 --> 00:00:53.243
  • Last week we told you about the film.
  • 00:00:53.243 --> 00:00:55.545
  • We showed you an interview that we did in cairo
  • 00:00:55.545 --> 00:00:59.415
  • With jonathan roumie, the wonderful, brilliant,
  • 00:00:59.415 --> 00:01:02.051
  • Extraordinary actor who plays jesus in the global phenomenon
  • 00:01:02.051 --> 00:01:06.122
  • Tv show the chosen and jonathan and i and my wife and my team
  • 00:01:06.122 --> 00:01:11.995
  • And the team that produced this movie, the 21.
  • 00:01:11.995 --> 00:01:15.865
  • We were all in cairo just a few weeks ago
  • 00:01:15.865 --> 00:01:19.335
  • Screening this film, showing it to egyptian christians
  • 00:01:19.335 --> 00:01:22.472
  • For their first time to see it.
  • 00:01:22.472 --> 00:01:24.107
  • It was my first time to see it and how moved i was.
  • 00:01:24.107 --> 00:01:27.844
  • And what happened since that show last week
  • 00:01:27.844 --> 00:01:30.480
  • Is the producers said, well, you know what?
  • 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.483
  • The film is only 13 minutes long.
  • 00:01:33.483 --> 00:01:35.251
  • We haven't thought about
  • 00:01:35.251 --> 00:01:36.352
  • Putting it on television yet, but with the rosenberg
  • 00:01:36.352 --> 00:01:40.056
  • Report like the permission to show the whole film, why?
  • 00:01:40.056 --> 00:01:43.993
  • So that you're not only so that you can see it?
  • 00:01:43.993 --> 00:01:46.229
  • Yes, obviously we we said immediately, yes,
  • 00:01:46.229 --> 00:01:48.865
  • We would love that, but not just because we want you to see it.
  • 00:01:48.865 --> 00:01:52.735
  • I want you to watch this
  • 00:01:52.735 --> 00:01:55.471
  • And then think, okay, lord, this is moving.
  • 00:01:55.471 --> 00:01:58.708
  • This is powerful.
  • 00:01:58.708 --> 00:01:59.943
  • What can i do to share this film with others?
  • 00:01:59.943 --> 00:02:03.346
  • We don't want this to be a one off
  • 00:02:03.346 --> 00:02:05.215
  • Where you just watched this film tonight.
  • 00:02:05.215 --> 00:02:08.251
  • As moving as it is, as powerful it is. it's not a story
  • 00:02:08.251 --> 00:02:11.988
  • That should be kept to ourselves.
  • 00:02:11.988 --> 00:02:13.723
  • I think it has a lot of relevance.
  • 00:02:13.723 --> 00:02:16.593
  • We are heading into deeper prophetic waters, right?
  • 00:02:16.593 --> 00:02:20.296
  • Prophetic times where persecution
  • 00:02:20.296 --> 00:02:22.398
  • Is going to get worse.
  • 00:02:22.398 --> 00:02:23.800
  • The persecution of the church is bad right now,
  • 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.302
  • But it's going to get much, much worse.
  • 00:02:26.302 --> 00:02:27.971
  • And not just in the middle east,
  • 00:02:27.971 --> 00:02:29.439
  • Not just in communist china, but all over the globe. and
  • 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:34.177
  • This film
  • 00:02:34.477 --> 00:02:35.445
  • Is important because we learn about the story
  • 00:02:35.445 --> 00:02:38.381
  • Of these 21 martyrs who refused to renounce jesus.
  • 00:02:38.381 --> 00:02:43.353
  • They stuck with jesus, their faith in jesus to the very end
  • 00:02:43.353 --> 00:02:46.189
  • As they were beheaded.
  • 00:02:46.189 --> 00:02:48.324
  • But we we don't just learn.
  • 00:02:48.324 --> 00:02:51.594
  • Their stories were inspired by their story of how
  • 00:02:51.594 --> 00:02:54.597
  • We can live more faithfully for jesus in our country.
  • 00:02:54.597 --> 00:02:57.834
  • In our time. this film is not for everyone.
  • 00:02:57.834 --> 00:03:00.236
  • I want to encourage you.
  • 00:03:00.236 --> 00:03:01.671
  • If you've got children, i would encourage you
  • 00:03:01.671 --> 00:03:05.174
  • Not to watch this film with children, even teenagers.
  • 00:03:05.174 --> 00:03:08.711
  • Some well might be better able to handle it than not,
  • 00:03:08.711 --> 00:03:12.315
  • But if you have
  • 00:03:12.315 --> 00:03:13.449
  • Kids under 18, maybe 16, it depends on your own kids.
  • 00:03:13.449 --> 00:03:16.786
  • You make your own decision as a parent,
  • 00:03:16.786 --> 00:03:18.888
  • But i would encourage you not to watch this with them.
  • 00:03:18.888 --> 00:03:21.824
  • Ask them to step out of the room.
  • 00:03:21.824 --> 00:03:23.026
  • You watch it on your own,
  • 00:03:23.026 --> 00:03:24.827
  • And then you can make an evaluation
  • 00:03:24.827 --> 00:03:27.030
  • Whether you think they're able to handle it.
  • 00:03:27.030 --> 00:03:29.165
  • Now again,
  • 00:03:29.165 --> 00:03:30.166
  • By doing this as an animated film,
  • 00:03:30.166 --> 00:03:32.035
  • A beautifully evocative animated film.
  • 00:03:32.035 --> 00:03:35.004
  • It is not gruesome like a documentary would be,
  • 00:03:35.004 --> 00:03:38.675
  • Or even a live action film, so that's good.
  • 00:03:38.675 --> 00:03:42.345
  • Tonight on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:00:01.224 --> 00:00:03.359
  • For the very first time
  • 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:04.828
  • On any television network, we'll show you “the 21”,
  • 00:00:04.828 --> 00:00:08.731
  • The powerful, evocative to film.
  • 00:00:08.731 --> 00:00:11.000
  • A true story
  • 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.202
  • About 21 christian men from egypt and ghana
  • 00:00:12.202 --> 00:00:15.905
  • Who were kidnaped and martyred by isis
  • 00:00:15.905 --> 00:00:18.775
  • Ten years ago, this month, but refused to renounce
  • 00:00:18.775 --> 00:00:22.412
  • Their faith in jesus.
  • 00:00:22.412 --> 00:00:23.847
  • We'll also interview the producers of “the 21”
  • 00:00:23.847 --> 00:00:27.050
  • And let you know how you can show this film
  • 00:00:27.050 --> 00:00:30.220
  • In your church, sunday school class, or home
  • 00:00:30.220 --> 00:00:33.056
  • Fellowship group.
  • 00:00:33.056 --> 00:00:34.290
  • The worldwide television premiere of “the 21” tonight
  • 00:00:34.290 --> 00:00:38.394
  • And the rosenberg report.
  • 00:00:38.394 --> 00:00:48.771
  • Good evening, and welcome to the rosenberg report.
  • 00:00:49.806 --> 00:00:51.541
  • We're going to show you this film tonight.
  • 00:00:51.541 --> 00:00:53.243
  • Last week we told you about the film.
  • 00:00:53.243 --> 00:00:55.545
  • We showed you an interview that we did in cairo
  • 00:00:55.545 --> 00:00:59.415
  • With jonathan roumie, the wonderful, brilliant,
  • 00:00:59.415 --> 00:01:02.051
  • Extraordinary actor who plays jesus in the global phenomenon
  • 00:01:02.051 --> 00:01:06.122
  • Tv show the chosen and jonathan and i and my wife and my team
  • 00:01:06.122 --> 00:01:11.995
  • And the team that produced this movie, the 21.
  • 00:01:11.995 --> 00:01:15.865
  • We were all in cairo just a few weeks ago
  • 00:01:15.865 --> 00:01:19.335
  • Screening this film, showing it to egyptian christians
  • 00:01:19.335 --> 00:01:22.472
  • For their first time to see it.
  • 00:01:22.472 --> 00:01:24.107
  • It was my first time to see it and how moved i was.
  • 00:01:24.107 --> 00:01:27.844
  • And what happened since that show last week
  • 00:01:27.844 --> 00:01:30.480
  • Is the producers said, well, you know what?
  • 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.483
  • The film is only 13 minutes long.
  • 00:01:33.483 --> 00:01:35.251
  • We haven't thought about
  • 00:01:35.251 --> 00:01:36.352
  • Putting it on television yet, but with the rosenberg
  • 00:01:36.352 --> 00:01:40.056
  • Report like the permission to show the whole film, why?
  • 00:01:40.056 --> 00:01:43.993
  • So that you're not only so that you can see it?
  • 00:01:43.993 --> 00:01:46.229
  • Yes, obviously we we said immediately, yes,
  • 00:01:46.229 --> 00:01:48.865
  • We would love that, but not just because we want you to see it.
  • 00:01:48.865 --> 00:01:52.735
  • I want you to watch this
  • 00:01:52.735 --> 00:01:55.471
  • And then think, okay, lord, this is moving.
  • 00:01:55.471 --> 00:01:58.708
  • This is powerful.
  • 00:01:58.708 --> 00:01:59.943
  • What can i do to share this film with others?
  • 00:01:59.943 --> 00:02:03.346
  • We don't want this to be a one off
  • 00:02:03.346 --> 00:02:05.215
  • Where you just watched this film tonight.
  • 00:02:05.215 --> 00:02:08.251
  • As moving as it is, as powerful it is. it's not a story
  • 00:02:08.251 --> 00:02:11.988
  • That should be kept to ourselves.
  • 00:02:11.988 --> 00:02:13.723
  • I think it has a lot of relevance.
  • 00:02:13.723 --> 00:02:16.593
  • We are heading into deeper prophetic waters, right?
  • 00:02:16.593 --> 00:02:20.296
  • Prophetic times where persecution
  • 00:02:20.296 --> 00:02:22.398
  • Is going to get worse.
  • 00:02:22.398 --> 00:02:23.800
  • The persecution of the church is bad right now,
  • 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.302
  • But it's going to get much, much worse.
  • 00:02:26.302 --> 00:02:27.971
  • And not just in the middle east,
  • 00:02:27.971 --> 00:02:29.439
  • Not just in communist china, but all over the globe. and
  • 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:34.177
  • This film
  • 00:02:34.477 --> 00:02:35.445
  • Is important because we learn about the story
  • 00:02:35.445 --> 00:02:38.381
  • Of these 21 martyrs who refused to renounce jesus.
  • 00:02:38.381 --> 00:02:43.353
  • They stuck with jesus, their faith in jesus to the very end
  • 00:02:43.353 --> 00:02:46.189
  • As they were beheaded.
  • 00:02:46.189 --> 00:02:48.324
  • But we we don't just learn.
  • 00:02:48.324 --> 00:02:51.594
  • Their stories were inspired by their story of how
  • 00:02:51.594 --> 00:02:54.597
  • We can live more faithfully for jesus in our country.
  • 00:02:54.597 --> 00:02:57.834
  • In our time. this film is not for everyone.
  • 00:02:57.834 --> 00:03:00.236
  • I want to encourage you.
  • 00:03:00.236 --> 00:03:01.671
  • If you've got children, i would encourage you
  • 00:03:01.671 --> 00:03:05.174
  • Not to watch this film with children, even teenagers.
  • 00:03:05.174 --> 00:03:08.711
  • Some well might be better able to handle it than not,
  • 00:03:08.711 --> 00:03:12.315
  • But if you have
  • 00:03:12.315 --> 00:03:13.449
  • Kids under 18, maybe 16, it depends on your own kids.
  • 00:03:13.449 --> 00:03:16.786
  • You make your own decision as a parent,
  • 00:03:16.786 --> 00:03:18.888
  • But i would encourage you not to watch this with them.
  • 00:03:18.888 --> 00:03:21.824
  • Ask them to step out of the room.
  • 00:03:21.824 --> 00:03:23.026
  • You watch it on your own,
  • 00:03:23.026 --> 00:03:24.827
  • And then you can make an evaluation
  • 00:03:24.827 --> 00:03:27.030
  • Whether you think they're able to handle it.
  • 00:03:27.030 --> 00:03:29.165
  • Now again,
  • 00:03:29.165 --> 00:03:30.166
  • By doing this as an animated film,
  • 00:03:30.166 --> 00:03:32.035
  • A beautifully evocative animated film.
  • 00:03:32.035 --> 00:03:35.004
  • It is not gruesome like a documentary would be,
  • 00:03:35.004 --> 00:03:38.675
  • Or even a live action film, so that's good.
  • 00:03:38.675 --> 00:03:42.345
  • Still, it's very
  • 00:03:42.345 --> 00:03:44.647
  • Difficult content.
  • 00:03:45.081 --> 00:03:46.616
  • It's told so well,
  • 00:03:46.616 --> 00:03:48.484
  • I think you're going to find it fascinating,
  • 00:03:48.484 --> 00:03:49.819
  • But i just want to caution you, if you're a parent,
  • 00:03:49.819 --> 00:03:52.789
  • That you shouldn't watch it with your children,
  • 00:03:52.789 --> 00:03:54.957
  • You should
  • 00:03:54.957 --> 00:03:56.159
  • Watch it on by yourself and then make your own evaluation.
  • 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.062
  • I do believe, however, many teenagers should see this.
  • 00:03:59.062 --> 00:04:02.432
  • Youth groups should see this.
  • 00:04:02.432 --> 00:04:04.300
  • Some sunday school classes, depending on the age,
  • 00:04:04.300 --> 00:04:06.069
  • Should see it.
  • 00:04:06.069 --> 00:04:07.437
  • But pastors, elders, ministry leaders and parents,
  • 00:04:07.437 --> 00:04:11.240
  • I want you to assess that for yourselves before
  • 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:15.912
  • Showing content that may be just too hard
  • 00:04:15.912 --> 00:04:18.915
  • For many kids to bear.
  • 00:04:18.915 --> 00:04:22.318
  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:04:22.318 --> 00:04:24.654
  • For the first time on any american tv network,
  • 00:04:24.654 --> 00:04:27.657
  • We'll show you the academy award shortlisted film
  • 00:04:27.657 --> 00:04:31.627
  • About 21 christian men who are kidnaped, persecuted
  • 00:04:31.627 --> 00:04:35.932
  • And ultimately murdered by isis because they refused
  • 00:04:35.932 --> 00:04:39.402
  • To renounce their faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:04:39.402 --> 00:04:42.472
  • Don't miss the premiere of “the 21”
  • 00:04:42.472 --> 00:04:45.174
  • When the rosenberg report continues on tbn.
  • 00:04:45.174 --> 00:04:48.444
  • Right after the break.
  • 00:04:48.444 --> 00:04:51.004
  • Right after the break.
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  • In 2015, isis murdered 21
  • 00:04:56.486 --> 00:04:59.255
  • Christian migrant workers on a beach in libya.
  • 00:04:59.255 --> 00:05:03.126
  • This is the story of the men who died
  • 00:05:03.926 --> 00:05:06.195
  • As told by those who loved them
  • 00:05:06.195 --> 00:05:09.098
  • And those who hated them.
  • 00:05:09.098 --> 00:05:15.505
  • (music)
  • 00:05:15.738 --> 00:05:39.695
  • In the early 21st century, isis to begin a reign of terror
  • 00:05:39.695 --> 00:05:43.299
  • In attempts to cleanse north africa of christians.
  • 00:05:43.299 --> 00:05:48.404
  • One of their favorite praying
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  • Egyptian coptic christians.
  • 00:05:51.541 --> 00:05:55.578
  • In december
  • 00:05:55.912 --> 00:05:56.846
  • 2014, isis captured seven coptic egyptians,
  • 00:05:56.846 --> 00:06:00.216
  • And they were making their way home to egypt.
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  • A week later, isis raided the housing complex
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  • Where the egyptians had been staying.
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  • Capturing
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  • 13 more coptic christians.
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  • (dog barking)
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  • In all,
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  • 20 coptic egyptians were gathered
  • 00:07:03.346 --> 00:07:04.981
  • Together in an underground prison.
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  • There was some confusion regarding matthew from god.
  • 00:07:20.029 --> 00:07:23.533
  • He had been captured in a separate raid.
  • 00:07:23.533 --> 00:07:25.501
  • And when isis tried to let him go, he insisted he was the same
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  • As the egyptians, their god with his god.
  • 00:07:29.305 --> 00:07:33.042
  • With matthew, the group became 21.
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  • For the first few weeks, the 21 were treated
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  • Well and were given clean food and water.
  • 00:07:58.634 --> 00:08:01.704
  • Isis tried to reason with the christians.
  • 00:08:02.572 --> 00:08:05.441
  • Some of the men were offered money to deny their faith.
  • 00:08:05.441 --> 00:08:09.912
  • But it was of no use.
  • 00:08:10.413 --> 00:08:12.315
  • The men wouldn't be moved.
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  • Thus, the journey of torture began.
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  • (music)
  • 00:08:24.493 --> 00:08:34.170
  • The christians were taken to the beach and forced
  • 00:08:35.171 --> 00:08:38.407
  • To push many bags of sand.
  • 00:08:38.407 --> 00:08:43.946
  • And when a man fell,
  • 00:08:44.413 --> 00:08:49.852
  • He was beaten.
  • 00:08:50.186 --> 00:09:29.692
  • The ground was continually doused with water.
  • 00:09:30.626 --> 00:09:33.229
  • So the man couldn't sleep.
  • 00:09:33.229 --> 00:09:42.171
  • (music)
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  • God was with them.
  • 00:10:19.408 --> 00:10:21.777
  • The more they were tortured, the more their faith
  • 00:10:21.777 --> 00:10:24.113
  • Seemed to grow.
  • 00:10:24.113 --> 00:10:26.048
  • In one night,
  • 00:10:26.048 --> 00:10:28.084
  • The man prayed in one voice to listen.
  • 00:10:28.084 --> 00:10:31.253
  • Lord have mercy, lord have mercy.
  • 00:10:31.253 --> 00:10:34.023
  • Over and over.
  • 00:10:34.023 --> 00:10:45.501
  • Then suddenly
  • 00:10:45.868 --> 00:10:46.869
  • The ground began to shake like an earthquake.
  • 00:10:46.869 --> 00:10:49.572
  • And isis became afraid.
  • 00:10:49.572 --> 00:10:52.575
  • (music)
  • 00:10:52.575 --> 00:11:31.814
  • The christians were forced to wear orange jumpsuits
  • 00:11:32.848 --> 00:11:36.318
  • As isis filmed them walking along the beach.
  • 00:11:36.318 --> 00:11:57.840
  • At times i see so strange figures
  • 00:11:58.574 --> 00:12:00.843
  • Walking among the christians.
  • 00:12:00.843 --> 00:12:03.179
  • Some of these figures held swords.
  • 00:12:03.179 --> 00:12:05.614
  • Others wore black and still others were riding
  • 00:12:05.614 --> 00:12:08.617
  • Horses.
  • 00:12:08.617 --> 00:12:12.188
  • At times, the color of the sky seemed to change
  • 00:12:12.188 --> 00:12:14.623
  • As the men were walking along the beach.
  • 00:12:14.623 --> 00:12:25.334
  • All of these things brought
  • 00:12:25.935 --> 00:12:27.102
  • Terror to the hearts of the islamic state soldiers.
  • 00:12:27.102 --> 00:12:33.375
  • They were anxious to kill the christians
  • 00:12:33.375 --> 00:12:34.944
  • Before those with the christians killed them.
  • 00:12:34.944 --> 00:12:40.549
  • Isis filmed the christians three different times.
  • 00:12:41.517 --> 00:12:44.653
  • The third time the men were brought to the beach
  • 00:12:44.653 --> 00:12:47.089
  • Were the last of the men walked looking toward the sky
  • 00:12:47.089 --> 00:12:52.161
  • And didn't say a word
  • 00:12:52.661 --> 00:12:54.263
  • Except their prayers to god.
  • 00:12:54.263 --> 00:13:12.581
  • All praises due to allah, the strong and mighty.
  • 00:13:13.549 --> 00:13:16.986
  • And may blessings and peace be upon the one sent by the sword
  • 00:13:16.986 --> 00:13:20.656
  • As a mercy for all the world's young people.
  • 00:13:20.656 --> 00:13:24.660
  • Recently we've seen up on the hills of a sham,
  • 00:13:24.660 --> 00:13:27.897
  • And on that plane,
  • 00:13:27.897 --> 00:13:29.265
  • Chopping off the heads that have been carrying the cost
  • 00:13:29.265 --> 00:13:31.267
  • Of looking for a long time
  • 00:13:31.267 --> 00:13:32.668
  • Filled with this fight against islam and muslims.
  • 00:13:32.668 --> 00:13:35.137
  • And today we are in the south of rome.
  • 00:13:35.137 --> 00:13:37.740
  • On the land of islam.
  • 00:13:37.740 --> 00:13:39.708
  • Libya.
  • 00:13:39.708 --> 00:14:28.724
  • Isis slaughtered the men one by one,
  • 00:14:29.525 --> 00:14:32.161
  • Hoping that some would deny their faith.
  • 00:14:32.161 --> 00:14:36.265
  • None did.
  • 00:14:36.565 --> 00:14:38.233
  • And they all died with the name of jesus on their lips.
  • 00:14:38.233 --> 00:14:42.471
  • On february 15th, 2015,
  • 00:14:42.972 --> 00:14:46.241
  • Isis published a five minute video showing the beheading
  • 00:14:46.241 --> 00:14:49.345
  • Of the christians.
  • 00:14:49.345 --> 00:14:50.946
  • The act was condemned by muslims and christians
  • 00:14:50.946 --> 00:14:53.449
  • Alike.
  • 00:14:53.449 --> 00:15:50.639
  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
  • 00:15:51.507 --> 00:15:53.976
  • How was “the 21” received by the families of the martyrs?
  • 00:15:53.976 --> 00:15:58.080
  • And how can you show the film in your church, sunday school
  • 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:01.650
  • Class or home? fellowship group.
  • 00:16:01.650 --> 00:16:03.919
  • A conversation with the producers of the 21
  • 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.122
  • When the rosenberg report continues.
  • 00:16:07.122 --> 00:16:09.224
  • I'm tbn right after the break.
  • 00:16:09.224 --> 00:16:13.000
  • I'm tbn right after the break.
  • 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:16.832
  • A lot to process.
  • 00:16:17.266 --> 00:16:18.434
  • I know you've just only had a brief commercial break,
  • 00:16:18.434 --> 00:16:21.503
  • To absorb what you just saw.
  • 00:16:22.104 --> 00:16:25.040
  • But you just saw the, the american television
  • 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:28.110
  • Premiere of the 21, and it's very powerful film.
  • 00:16:28.110 --> 00:16:32.881
  • Now you've seen it.
  • 00:16:32.881 --> 00:16:33.715
  • You heard me talk about it last week
  • 00:16:33.715 --> 00:16:35.784
  • And talked to jonathan roumie about it.
  • 00:16:35.784 --> 00:16:37.352
  • I'm so glad we did that.
  • 00:16:37.352 --> 00:16:38.587
  • But i wanted to bring in now, the producers of this film and
  • 00:16:38.587 --> 00:16:43.592
  • And the people that god gave this idea to mark rodgers.
  • 00:16:43.592 --> 00:16:48.130
  • As i mentioned last week.
  • 00:16:48.130 --> 00:16:49.398
  • But i'll reintroduce him because now he's on the program.
  • 00:16:49.398 --> 00:16:52.534
  • Mark rodgers, former chief of staff for united states senator.
  • 00:16:52.534 --> 00:16:55.871
  • Very much worked on, presidential campaigns
  • 00:16:56.772 --> 00:17:00.275
  • And then started a company and got involved in faith-based
  • 00:17:00.275 --> 00:17:03.745
  • Films and other multimedia projects.
  • 00:17:03.745 --> 00:17:07.382
  • His partner in crime, as it were.
  • 00:17:07.382 --> 00:17:09.351
  • I say that,
  • 00:17:09.351 --> 00:17:10.886
  • Just with humor, is mandi hart.
  • 00:17:10.886 --> 00:17:13.689
  • She has, she's got a, real background
  • 00:17:13.689 --> 00:17:16.291
  • In not only in business, but in film and, and multimedia.
  • 00:17:16.291 --> 00:17:19.428
  • And the two of them teamed up
  • 00:17:19.428 --> 00:17:21.196
  • And they've worked on a lot of different projects together.
  • 00:17:21.196 --> 00:17:23.632
  • But for me, this project caught me off guard.
  • 00:17:23.632 --> 00:17:26.869
  • I mentioned on the show last week
  • 00:17:26.869 --> 00:17:28.804
  • That as mark and his wife, leann,
  • 00:17:28.804 --> 00:17:32.407
  • Which would have been fun to have on the show,
  • 00:17:32.407 --> 00:17:33.675
  • But maybe in the future, as they came to egypt with me.
  • 00:17:33.675 --> 00:17:37.913
  • And we several years ago
  • 00:17:38.447 --> 00:17:39.748
  • Out of the joshua fund evangelical delegation,
  • 00:17:39.748 --> 00:17:42.618
  • They, we all heard about the story of the 21.
  • 00:17:42.618 --> 00:17:45.687
  • What i didn't know is mark and leann went home going
  • 00:17:45.687 --> 00:17:48.624
  • We need to do something about that.
  • 00:17:48.624 --> 00:17:50.125
  • There's something there.
  • 00:17:50.125 --> 00:17:51.426
  • That's a story we have to help tell.
  • 00:17:51.426 --> 00:17:53.862
  • So mark rodgers, mandi hart, thank you guys for coming
  • 00:17:53.862 --> 00:17:56.732
  • On the rosenberg report.
  • 00:17:56.732 --> 00:17:57.866
  • Let's let's talk a little bit about this film.
  • 00:17:57.866 --> 00:18:00.736
  • And, mark, i want to start with you.
  • 00:18:00.736 --> 00:18:05.574
  • We've told a little bit of the back story,
  • 00:18:06.441 --> 00:18:08.644
  • But i want you to talk a little bit
  • 00:18:08.644 --> 00:18:10.379
  • About what happened after i was with you.
  • 00:18:10.379 --> 00:18:12.781
  • You guys had one more day.
  • 00:18:12.781 --> 00:18:15.017
  • A full day in, in not just in cairo,
  • 00:18:15.017 --> 00:18:17.286
  • But you actually went to upper egypt, to the very village
  • 00:18:17.286 --> 00:18:20.889
  • Where many of the families of these martyrs lived.
  • 00:18:20.889 --> 00:18:24.760
  • You both did.
  • 00:18:24.760 --> 00:18:25.827
  • And jonathan roumie came with you.
  • 00:18:25.827 --> 00:18:27.796
  • Mark, let's start with you.
  • 00:18:27.796 --> 00:18:29.731
  • What was some of the reaction from these families
  • 00:18:29.731 --> 00:18:33.602
  • As they saw this film? they knew what was coming.
  • 00:18:33.602 --> 00:18:36.004
  • You guys had done the research with them.
  • 00:18:36.004 --> 00:18:37.673
  • Your director, todd polson, had been engaging
  • 00:18:37.673 --> 00:18:40.209
  • With them in the research,
  • 00:18:40.209 --> 00:18:41.376
  • But they saw for the first time what were the reactions?
  • 00:18:41.376 --> 00:18:44.813
  • Well, joel, thank you again for both your own,
  • 00:18:44.813 --> 00:18:48.350
  • Encouragement of the film.
  • 00:18:48.917 --> 00:18:49.952
  • But but more importantly, this for your,
  • 00:18:49.952 --> 00:18:53.956
  • Your catalyst in taking us the first time to egypt and, sure.
  • 00:18:53.956 --> 00:18:57.626
  • You touched. who knew?
  • 00:18:57.626 --> 00:19:00.062
  • You know, you take creative, godly people on a trip.
  • 00:19:00.062 --> 00:19:03.031
  • You didn't.
  • 00:19:03.031 --> 00:19:04.099
  • You never know where the spirit's going to lead.
  • 00:19:04.099 --> 00:19:05.667
  • We really got to see the challenging conditions
  • 00:19:05.667 --> 00:19:08.370
  • That the coptic christian community lives in.
  • 00:19:08.370 --> 00:19:12.207
  • And the little village, if you would, where the church
  • 00:19:12.207 --> 00:19:15.143
  • Of the 21 martyrs is located really is an oasis for them.
  • 00:19:15.143 --> 00:19:18.981
  • And so when we went into the community,
  • 00:19:18.981 --> 00:19:21.483
  • We just felt welcomed immediately.
  • 00:19:21.483 --> 00:19:24.419
  • I went early to a, a service and i the liturgy, of course,
  • 00:19:24.419 --> 00:19:29.091
  • Was typically in coptic,
  • 00:19:29.625 --> 00:19:32.127
  • Egyptian, but they actually heard english.
  • 00:19:32.127 --> 00:19:35.130
  • And i was told later that the priest who led
  • 00:19:35.130 --> 00:19:37.899
  • That worship had practiced for weeks,
  • 00:19:37.899 --> 00:19:41.770
  • To give part of that liturgy in english, not
  • 00:19:41.770 --> 00:19:44.940
  • Knowing what he was saying, but he memorized it just for us.
  • 00:19:44.940 --> 00:19:47.142
  • So that is that is the level of welcome that we felt
  • 00:19:47.142 --> 00:19:50.445
  • In the community because we invested, in this film.
  • 00:19:50.445 --> 00:19:54.616
  • And of course, then showing it to the widows,
  • 00:19:55.484 --> 00:19:58.320
  • The families, the mothers, of course, children of the
  • 00:19:58.320 --> 00:20:01.757
  • Of the martyrs, was the pinnacle of our of our trip.
  • 00:20:01.757 --> 00:20:05.294
  • And i love mandi to share maybe her own reaction.
  • 00:20:05.294 --> 00:20:08.864
  • There was definitely the full gamut
  • 00:20:08.864 --> 00:20:11.266
  • Of emotion, obviously sorrow and weeping,
  • 00:20:11.266 --> 00:20:15.070
  • But also rejoicing and so much pride in
  • 00:20:15.070 --> 00:20:19.274
  • What the martyrs stood for and their steadfastness to the end.
  • 00:20:19.274 --> 00:20:25.213
  • And so that was beautiful to see.
  • 00:20:25.213 --> 00:20:27.215
  • And also very convicting.
  • 00:20:27.215 --> 00:20:30.118
  • Just their perspective was so eternally minded.
  • 00:20:30.118 --> 00:20:34.523
  • And i think that's what struck me the most.
  • 00:20:34.523 --> 00:20:37.392
  • And spending the time
  • 00:20:37.392 --> 00:20:38.860
  • With the coptic community that we had a few weeks ago
  • 00:20:38.860 --> 00:20:42.297
  • Is how they really do live, with one foot on earth
  • 00:20:42.297 --> 00:20:45.000
  • And one foot in heaven.
  • 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:46.702
  • And i've come back with a lot to to process in that regard,
  • 00:20:46.702 --> 00:20:52.474
  • And it felt like a real gift to have had that time with them.
  • 00:20:52.474 --> 00:20:55.143
  • Amen.
  • 00:20:55.143 --> 00:20:56.211
  • Mark,
  • 00:20:56.211 --> 00:20:57.312
  • You got to know jonathan roumie through other projects
  • 00:20:57.312 --> 00:21:00.148
  • You were working on and interactions,
  • 00:21:00.148 --> 00:21:02.150
  • And then you invited him to get involved,
  • 00:21:02.150 --> 00:21:03.952
  • Become an executive producer.
  • 00:21:03.952 --> 00:21:06.288
  • I was really moved that he,
  • 00:21:06.888 --> 00:21:08.890
  • You know, in his interview that he did with the rosenberg
  • 00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:11.827
  • Report, really talked about wanting to get this film
  • 00:21:11.827 --> 00:21:14.896
  • As far and wide to be seen as far and wide as possible.
  • 00:21:14.896 --> 00:21:18.500
  • What is what are what are you starting to see?
  • 00:21:19.468 --> 00:21:21.603
  • Because it's not like a film
  • 00:21:21.603 --> 00:21:22.671
  • That you're premiering in a in a movie theater.
  • 00:21:22.671 --> 00:21:25.540
  • So how are you guys getting this film out and
  • 00:21:25.540 --> 00:21:28.577
  • And what's the early traction?
  • 00:21:28.577 --> 00:21:31.580
  • Being.
  • 00:21:31.580 --> 00:21:32.547
  • And obviously jonathan's been a huge help,
  • 00:21:32.547 --> 00:21:34.316
  • In getting the word out.
  • 00:21:34.316 --> 00:21:36.184
  • Well, i mean, this is the kind of film
  • 00:21:36.184 --> 00:21:37.786
  • That, really succeeds by word of mouth.
  • 00:21:37.786 --> 00:21:40.922
  • In some ways, it's people watching it and then sharing it.
  • 00:21:40.922 --> 00:21:43.658
  • And that's what's happened so far in the first week.
  • 00:21:43.658 --> 00:21:47.129
  • We've had over 300,000 views on youtube.
  • 00:21:47.129 --> 00:21:51.633
  • I believe,
  • 00:21:51.933 --> 00:21:53.101
  • Another 150,000 in arabic.
  • 00:21:53.101 --> 00:21:56.204
  • I'm not sure i can tell which is.
  • 00:21:56.204 --> 00:21:57.572
  • So my assumption is we're close
  • 00:21:57.572 --> 00:21:59.374
  • To half a million views of, of different, sorts.
  • 00:21:59.374 --> 00:22:03.412
  • And, but i think that was even more encouraging,
  • 00:22:03.412 --> 00:22:05.647
  • Honestly, are the comments on youtube
  • 00:22:05.647 --> 00:22:07.682
  • Which anybody can get access to see.
  • 00:22:07.682 --> 00:22:09.484
  • They're a couple thousand.
  • 00:22:09.484 --> 00:22:11.153
  • And, and, you know,
  • 00:22:11.153 --> 00:22:13.555
  • I just feel like part of the purpose of the film
  • 00:22:13.555 --> 00:22:15.724
  • From the beginning was to encourage the body of christ.
  • 00:22:15.724 --> 00:22:18.693
  • And certainly that is the response that we're getting.
  • 00:22:18.693 --> 00:22:21.696
  • But it's also fostering
  • 00:22:21.696 --> 00:22:22.697
  • Some really thoughtful conversations online.
  • 00:22:22.697 --> 00:22:24.766
  • And, that was the second objective.
  • 00:22:24.766 --> 00:22:27.169
  • So i get to see candidly with the,
  • 00:22:27.169 --> 00:22:30.205
  • Online comments that we are,
  • 00:22:30.806 --> 00:22:33.275
  • Seeing the fruit of that labor and, and very thankful, for it.
  • 00:22:33.275 --> 00:22:37.479
  • Mandy, what do you hope for?
  • 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:40.382
  • What do you and mark want to see over the next few months?
  • 00:22:40.382 --> 00:22:44.619
  • And do you think, i mean, now people have had a chance
  • 00:22:44.619 --> 00:22:47.522
  • That they watched it on the show
  • 00:22:47.522 --> 00:22:49.224
  • And have a chance to say, oh, yeah,
  • 00:22:49.224 --> 00:22:50.559
  • That is appropriate for my youth group
  • 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:52.828
  • Or my sunday school class or my whole church or whatever.
  • 00:22:52.828 --> 00:22:55.697
  • So, you
  • 00:22:55.697 --> 00:22:56.932
  • I appreciate you guys have given us
  • 00:22:56.932 --> 00:22:58.333
  • This extraordinary opportunity to show the film and to let
  • 00:22:58.333 --> 00:23:02.204
  • Influencers start thinking, how would they like to use it?
  • 00:23:02.204 --> 00:23:05.006
  • But what do you guys hope to see?
  • 00:23:05.006 --> 00:23:07.442
  • Happen in the, in the next month or 2 or 3?
  • 00:23:07.442 --> 00:23:10.412
  • I would say a continuation of the engagement
  • 00:23:10.412 --> 00:23:12.747
  • That we've already seen.
  • 00:23:12.747 --> 00:23:14.583
  • So certainly mark referenced the comments
  • 00:23:14.583 --> 00:23:17.385
  • And the conversations that are happening online.
  • 00:23:17.385 --> 00:23:19.654
  • We've had several dozen people sign up to plan their own
  • 00:23:19.654 --> 00:23:23.792
  • Screening events.
  • 00:23:23.792 --> 00:23:24.993
  • We have the screening kit available through the website
  • 00:23:24.993 --> 00:23:27.863
  • So that people can do a screening for a small group
  • 00:23:27.863 --> 00:23:31.833
  • Home, church context, classroom, university setting,
  • 00:23:31.833 --> 00:23:36.004
  • Church community center really runs the gamut.
  • 00:23:36.004 --> 00:23:39.774
  • So we have all of those assets available, and we'd love
  • 00:23:39.774 --> 00:23:42.944
  • To see that continue and reach more and more people.
  • 00:23:42.944 --> 00:23:46.314
  • And we also have been incredibly
  • 00:23:46.314 --> 00:23:48.984
  • Blessed over the last week to have many people reach out
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  • And offer to provide subtitles in their language.
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  • We started with french, spanish, russian and arabic subtitles,
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  • But we've now added thanks to the generosity of volunteers.
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  • We got in farsi, greek, italian, polish, hungarian.
  • 00:24:06.935 --> 00:24:12.440
  • We have people working on amharic, azerbaijani, tagalog,
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  • And i think there's a few others as well.
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  • So we're just thrilled
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  • That the film has been reaching more and more people and hope
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  • And pray that that will continue and we'll just see it
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  • Continue to expand. amen.
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  • That is really encouraging.
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  • And that i think
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  • Maybe one of the most
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  • Exciting things for me is now to hear that,
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  • That that something is that's cooking,
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  • You know, it's like once people see this film,
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  • They understand why it's so important
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  • Because it's such a
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  • Powerful story and they see it so powerfully and beautifully
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  • And evocatively told.
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  • And then the question is,
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  • Are they just going to say, okay, that was interesting,
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  • Or are they going to be moved to do something about it?
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  • And i think i think this goes far beyond.
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  • Mark, i'm going to give you the last word.
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  • I wish we had more time.
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  • But, i think this goes far beyond egyptian christianity.
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  • Right?
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  • This is about people being persecuted and
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  • Could i could you could we could our viewers
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  • Stand for christ under tremendous persecution?
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  • What lessons can we learn
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  • Not just about the egyptian church
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  • That it exists today,
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  • But from the egyptian church, from these 21 martyrs?
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  • And they're extraordinarily, brave and faithful families
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  • That can apply to our faith, whether we're
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  • In the united states or in israel
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  • Or china or anywhere else around the world.
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  • Mark, i think part of that is it would have been wonderful
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  • If the academy award had gone all the way and giving it,
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  • A full award, but i feel like something else
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  • Is happening far more important than the academy awards.
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  • Joe, you know, i just i think it's not,
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  • Coincidental, of course, that last week, 70,
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  • Christians in the at the drc in congo were beheaded
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  • And their faith and were reminded
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  • That this is not a story of ten years ago
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  • Or hundreds of years ago or even 2000 years ago.
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  • But it's a story of today, and now it's next and next year.
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  • And i think in some ways, the message of the film,
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  • You know, involved with another,
  • 00:26:14.863 --> 00:26:16.064
  • Another film we were called silence at martin scorsese.
  • 00:26:16.064 --> 00:26:18.566
  • You did right away.
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  • It's both films
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  • Have the same message that in the midst of suffering,
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  • We're never left alone.
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  • Jesus is with us,
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  • And we uniquely experience jesus in our suffering.
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  • And i think
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  • Many of us in the west,
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  • We really haven't experienced suffering, certain that level,
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  • That, that many christians do across the globe.
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  • And so, so i, i just to close, i'd say this is the story
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  • Not just for the past, but for the future.
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  • And that sense, my hope and prayer
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  • Is that it will be encouragement to the body,
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  • For years to come.
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  • Thank you guys for so much for what you've done.
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  • And i want to say to all of our viewers,
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  • We're out of time,
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  • But i want to thank you for watching the rosenberg report.
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  • Thank you for watching the 21.
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  • And i encourage you to go to the website.
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  • I encourage you to not only see the film again,
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  • But think about how god would use you
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  • To show the film in a small group bible study
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  • In your church, at a conference, to your youth group.
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  • Obviously,
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  • You got to be sensitive to age and what's appropriate.
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  • But i pray that it would be encouraging to you.
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  • Thank you so much for watching the rosenberg report.
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  • May god bless you as you walk with him faithfully this week.
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  • And lord willing,
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  • I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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