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| Special Report Erick Stakelbeck: Gaza Peace Plan | October 13, 2025
- You are looking live at
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- Jerusalem, a city that just experienced one of the most
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- Remarkable days in its modern history, possibly in all of its
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- Long and glorious history. it's 2:30 a.m. there now, but
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- Earlier today, jerusalem was alive with israelis glorifying
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- God, dancing in the streets with unbridled joy because the
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- Hostages are finally home. i'm eric stakelbeck, and this is a
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- Tbn special report. those 20 live israeli hostages were
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- Finally released after two hellish years in hamas
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- Captivity, and the scenes of their reunions with their
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- Families were unforgettable. watch. oh! oh. oh. oh. and. so
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- Powerful, folks. i've been covering the middle east
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- Closely for well over two decades, and i have never seen
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- Anything like this. the captives return on the jewish
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- Holiday of simchat torah, which celebrates the completion of
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- The annual cycle of torah readings. it was on this very
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- Same holiday two years ago that hamas carried out the october
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- 7th massacre and sent the region spiraling into war. now
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- Things have come full circle, and that doesn't happen without
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- President trump. his gaza peace plan came together quickly.
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- Israel agreed to it. and once a majority of the world's arab
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- And muslim nations got on board, hamas was completely isolated
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- And peace was possible. peace through strength. here was
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- President trump speaking before the israeli knesset earlier
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- Today to mark this historic deal. this is not only the end
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- Of a war. this is the end of a age of terror and death and the
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- Beginning of the age of faith and hope and of god. it's the
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- Start of a grand concord and lasting harmony for israel and
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- All the nations of what will soon be a truly magnificent
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- Region. i believe that so strongly. this is the historic
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- Dawn of a new middle east. generations from now, this will
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- Be remembered as the moment that everything began to change
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- And change very much for the better. like the usa right now,
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- It will be the golden age of israel and the golden age of
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- The middle east. it's going to work together. incredible. now
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- There is still a lot of hard work to be done, folks. hamas
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- Has yet to hand over the remains of 20 dead israeli
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- Hostages. and will hamas really lay down its arms as president
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- Trump still demands? and who runs gaza now that the war
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- Seems to be ending, serious questions still remain. but for
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- One day at least, jubilation in israel. here's prime minister
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- Benjamin netanyahu. now, i said that we're going to read this
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- Week the book of ecclesiastes. it has it's not a book of
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- Action. it's a book of. meditations of thought, a
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- Perspective on life and on death. and in this book we read
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- The immortal words of king solomon. to everything there is
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- A season and a time for every matter under heaven. to the
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- Editor. shalom. a time for peace and a time for war. the
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- Last two years have been a time of war. the coming years will
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- Hopefully be a time for peace. amen. we are living in historic
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- Prophetic times, and our tbn israel correspondent, yair
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- Pinto has had a front row seat for all of it. he's co-host of
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- Boots on the ground, seen right here on tbn every thursday
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- Night, and he joins us now in the middle of the night from
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- Jerusalem. yeah. great to see you, my friend. first of all,
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- Congratulations to you and to all the people of israel. and
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- Secondly, your personal reflections. look, you've been
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- Covering literally boots on the ground since october 7th.
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- That's when you began with your great reports for our tbn
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- Viewers. two years on, hostages home. how does it feel for you
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- Personally, given all that you've done covering this war?
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- I think, first of all, happy holiday from jerusalem, from
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- Israel. and yes, this is the happiest day, the happiest
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- Reporting day that i had since this war began two years ago.
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- It's just amazing to remember that morning two years ago when
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- We had rockets coming to israel, terrorists infiltrating the
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- Country, roaming the streets, taking our hostages into gaza.
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- And then we got the call to wear our boots and join the idf
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- And fight. i did it. marty did it. and the reason for all of
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- It was to bring our hostages back home. and we've seen so
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- Many miracles happen in israel in the past two years, from
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- Interception of rockets, from iran, from feeling god's peace
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- Inside the gaza strip. personally, when i was there to
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- Many, many more. but this is the biggest miracle. the
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- Hostages are back home. this is not just a celebration for the
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- Families. the entire nation of israel was in the streets of
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- Israel. tens of thousands of israelis in each city center
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- Celebrating the return of the hostages, just dancing in the
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- Streets, in the houses of the families of the hostages. just
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- Before they were released. people waiting on the border
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- With the gaza strip for the convoys of hostages to come
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- Back home. the entire nation of israel was waiting for this
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- Moment for two years. and after this peace plan was announced
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- On sunday, then nobody was sleeping. everybody was glued
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- To the tv and checking out. when the hostages are actually
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- Back in israeli hands. this is just an amazing moment for
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- Israel and for the world, because it's just proof that
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- God is faithful. he's faithful to his promises to the people
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- Of israel. he's faithful to his promises to the world. and he
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- Just proved again and again that he is performing biblical
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- Level miracles in modern days. if you need any kind of
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- Encouragement that god actually exists. just open your tv.
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- Check out what god did in israel in the past two years.
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- This is just the biggest miracle that you can see as big
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- As the miracles of the bible, eric, and we're just so excited.
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- Prayers work. and this is the time to be united with the
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- Hostages, as they have a long journey to return from being
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- 738 days underground in hamas dungeons, terror tunnels in the
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- Gaza strip. many of them had been barely eaten. they lost
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- Dozens of kilos of their weight. some of them have not seen
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- Sunlight for hundreds of days straight. they have a long
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- Physical process to get back to normal, but more than that,
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- They have a long mental process to get back to their reality
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- Here in israel. but they have all the strength of this nation,
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- And they can use also all the prayers from our viewers back
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- Home. i would like to use this opportunity to say thank you
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- For prayers. praying for me personally throughout this war.
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- It's been a process for me, for my family and for all the
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- People of israel. eric. but it's an amazing day and i'm so
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- Excited. this is definitely the happiest day i had in two years.
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- Yeah, amazing. yeah. you're great breakdown in israel. the
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- Idf paid such a price as you know, firsthand, of course,
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- Families paid a horrific price. but now the captivity, the
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- Captivity is over. the captives home. freedom reigns in israel.
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- About 30s left. do you see major developments unfolding in
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- Israel in the days to come? it seems to me that israel is
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- Moving into a beautiful new age. how do you see it? about 30s
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- Left. well, first of all, eric, from a security point of view,
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- It's amazing to know that we don't have israelis in the gaza
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- Strip. just amazing to say it. no israelis in gaza from
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- Cooperation point of view, this is the time to have deals with
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- Our neighbors. when israel is strong, when the united states
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- Is strong, deals of prosperity, deals of security, deals of
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- Peace. yeah, yeah. well said. abraham accords back on the
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- Table in a very big way, my friend. yeah. we can't thank
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- You. on behalf of all of our viewers. we cannot thank you
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- Enough for your work, your steadfastness, your bravery,
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- Your diligence over the past two years covering this war.
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- Some good days lie ahead, yair pinto. blessings, my friend.
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- Get some sleep. god bless you and your family. we'll see you
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- Again soon. thank you. eric, thank you so much to everybody
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- For their prayers and the support. and we are staying in
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- Israel right now with our good friend jonathan conricus. of
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- Course, he's a senior fellow at the foundation for defense of
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- Democracies, is a former international spokesman for the
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- Israel defense forces. he joins us now. jonathan, what a day.
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- Always great to see you. and hey, we could talk a bunch, of
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- Course, about president trump's peace plan. he's getting credit,
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- And rightly so. but jonathan, i want to ask you about the role
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- The israel defense forces played in all of this. without
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- The brave work of the warriors of the idf. it seems to me none
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- Of this happens. yes, eric, thank you for having me on this
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- Happy and joyous day of holiday. it's double joy because we're
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- Celebrating the jewish festival of simchat torah, which is when
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- Jews rejoice. and having received the torah, we
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- Celebrate that every year. and very importantly, finally,
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- There are no more live israeli hostages in hamas captivity.
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- And that's a strategic game changer that wherever this goes.
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- You mentioned the trump plan, whether this goes all the way
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- To peace or whether we go back to fighting, the situation is
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- Fundamentally different and in a better way. now, regarding
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- The idf, well, imagine pearl harbor, but imagine pearl
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- Harbor with a tremendous amount of civilian casualties. that is
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- Ultimate mission failure. that's how the idf started the
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- October 7th war unprepared and caught off guard. and two years
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- After, which is a long, long time for a small country like
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- Israel. finally, i think we can say that we're dusting
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- Ourselves off now that, thanks to president trump, hostages
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- Have come home. i think we can scan the horizon and say the
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- Situation now is profoundly better than what it was before.
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- Before. and that has been obtained through fierce
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- Fighting, professionalism, stamina and i would say a giant
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- Amount of belief, belief amongst israeli soldiers,
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- Knowing what they are fighting for, knowing why they need to
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- Fight, knowing what they're defending. and two years after
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- We're in a good situation. still a lot of work to do, but
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- In a much better situation than how we started. yeah. jonathan,
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- Do you think we see now or are we on the verge of a new middle
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- East where, look, israel is the region's superpower number one.
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- And number two, countries like saudi arabia come in and join
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- The abraham accords. could that be on the doorstep now? well,
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- One would hope so. and if it's going to happen, then i think
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- None better than president trump and his talented team of
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- Businessmen turned diplomats to bring that about. and i think
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- That we've seen that what they've been able to do
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- Diplomatically is pretty unprecedented to have
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- Adversaries or countries that are hostile towards israel,
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- Like turkey, egypt, jordan and qatar sign on a document that
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- Says this enemy of israel, hamas, needs to be disarmed and
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- It needs to be relegated basically away from power. that
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- Is a big, big achievement. so maybe it will happen. maybe the
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- Fault lines of the middle east are changing, and maybe this is
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- The what's heralding in a new era. that's fine for people to
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- Believe in. and i pray that that is true on the ground.
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- However, i think vigilance is and should be the order of the
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- Day. we still are not beyond phase one. phase one in the
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- Deal, in the ceasefire deal, we're still waiting for the
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- Return of all of the bodies of the murdered israelis. hamas
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- Today, not surprisingly, instead of returning 28, all of
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- The remaining bodies, they returned only four of the
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- Israeli hostages. and that's already a major violation of
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- The first phase. we'll see how israel responds to that. but
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- However this goes, yes, there's possibility, but there is still
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- So much, so many details and so much work that it needs to be
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- Done. when we're dealing with an enemy like like hamas. but
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- There's nothing like winning. if you want to create alliances
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- And bring about peace. jonathan. very well said. two things.
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- Number one, israel, of course, paid a heavy price here. by the
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- Way, releasing hundreds of hardened life sentenced
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- Palestinian terrorists. number one. and number two, you talked
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- About gaza and this is only phase one. what does gaza look
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- Like going forward? do we see gaza perhaps collapse into
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- Internal fighting between hamas and other factions there? in
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- The short term at least? yeah. i mean, yeah, gaza is looking
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- Very bad. and what we see hamas doing, like the thugs and
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- Terrorists that they are, they're settling scores.
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- They've been spending the last 36 hours basically executing
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- Dissidents, executing rival clans, terrorizing people,
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- Palestinians, arabs, their own people and doing it in typical
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- Jihadi fashion, with brute force, with mass terror. that's
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- What they've been doing in the last 36 years, 36 hours in gaza.
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- And the longer it takes for the trump plan to transition from
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- Stage 1 to 2 and three, the larger the chances, the higher
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- The chances that it won't advance. because this interim
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- Period before going from one to 2 to 3 is something that hamas
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- Will use in order to consolidate its power. when you
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- Look at what hamas is doing, they don't look like an
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- Organization that is readying itself to transition out of
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- Power, like an outgoing administration. that is not
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- What they're doing. and you can see that they're communicating
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- With the locals. they're saying that we're here to stay, and
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- They're also saying openly they said it on sky uk two days ago.
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- We're not going to hand over our weapons. we're not going to
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- Disarm. so this doesn't spell well for the future. and this
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- Is already a test. how will qatar, turkey, egypt and the us
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- And of course israel respond to this. and the sad reality is
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- That, you know, it's a it's a succession of things that one
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- Has to happen before the other. so first hamas is disarmed,
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- Then they are relieved or they relinquish control over gaza,
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- And then will a new government be in place, and then will the
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- Rebuilding of gaza start rebuilding of gaza? an
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- Alleviation for civilians there will not happen as long as
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- Hamas is in power. so it's a it's a complex situation after
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- War. scenarios are always challenging and messy and
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- Bloody, and it's kind of jungle laws that will prevail for a
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- While. and at this time, israel will have to be very vigilant.
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- And the faster the work is done, the better. jonathan, great
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- Breakdown and look we'll enjoy today, of course, but as you
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- Said, much work to be done in this still all playing out. no
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- One does it better than our good friend jonathan conricus.
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- Be sure to follow him on x across social media. jonathan.
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- Thank you so much my friend. god bless you. we'll see you
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- Again soon. eric, can i say one more word? of course. i just
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- Want to say thank you. i want to say thank you to all of the
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- Non-jewish supporters of israel. and i want to say that your
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- Prayers, your help, your involvement, your donations,
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- But mostly your prayers, your care for israel throughout
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- These two years. they are part of the success story. eric, you
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- Asked me in the beginning about the role of the idf. we have
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- Fought, the idf has fought and i think fought well, but i
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- Think we would not have been able to succeed had it not been
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- For the help that we have gotten from abroad, from our
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- Jewish brothers and sisters around the world, in the u.s.
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- And elsewhere, but also from our non-jewish brothers and
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- Sisters. and i think this is a great venue for me as an
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- Israeli, to say thank you and that we should all enjoy this
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- Sweet moment of victory, that we're seeing the hostages being
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- Returned home and really a marvelous and sweet moment to
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- Enjoy. so thank you very much. jonathan, thank you so much. it
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- Is our honor and pleasure to stand with you and the nation
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- Of israel, my friend and the jewish people, jonathan. we
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- Appreciate it. god bless. we'll see you soon. thank you. god
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- Bless. great stuff. and we are joined now by our good friend
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- Pastor allen jackson, host of allen jackson, now seen right
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- Here on tbn every week night at 7 p.m. eastern time. alan,
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- Great to see you as always. and hey, jonathan conricus just
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- Mentioned the role that non-jewish supporters,
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- Christian supporters of israel in particular, have played over
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- The past two years in inspiring the people of israel, in
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- Supporting the people of israel. okay, alan, the hostages are
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- Now home. what can the body of christ do now, in the days
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- Ahead, to stand with israel, especially when we see
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- Anti-semitism rising, even right here in america and
- 00:19:55.346 --> 00:19:58.583
- Certainly around the world? well, i think first, today we
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- Rejoice with our friends because this is a miracle of
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- Biblical proportion. you know, as i've been listening to your
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- Guest. october the 7th, the horrors of october the 7th, was
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- The greatest loss of jewish life since the holocaust. and
- 00:20:11.963 --> 00:20:14.399
- Today reminds me a bit of may 1945. i wasn't there, but that
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- Was victory in europe day, when we declared victory over
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- Germany and the horrors of the holocaust. you know, and on
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- That day, there was a victory recognized. but we also
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- Understood there was still a great deal of decisions to be
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- Made, a lot of work to be done. but that led us to the birth of
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- The modern nation of israel. and today there's a great
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- Victory. i understand there's still work to be done and
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- Questions to be answered, but i believe it marks the beginning
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- Of a whole new future for the nation of israel. i believe out
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- Of this horror and out of this great loss, we will see god
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- Move in a way that will write a whole new chapter for the
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- Nation of israel that two years ago, honestly, was probably
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- Beyond imagination. so i think for those of us who are friends
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- Of israel and have been honored to stand with them through this
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- Difficult time, we continue to pray and trust god that his
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- Purposes that he his the covenant he made with that
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- People, we will see it expressed in an entirely new
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- Way in gaza, in the west bank, in what he's doing in that land.
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- It's a privilege to stand with our friends there. amen. what
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- The enemy meant for evil. god meant for good. hey, we have a
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- Great clip here, real quick of an israeli hostage. eitan
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- Reunited with his family earlier today. let's take a
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- Look. you.
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- Climb. over. alan.
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- Just so beautiful. you're a father. i'm a father. the raw
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- Emotion there is just heart rending. it's so touching. as
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- You said, this is a day of jubilation. a lot of things
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- Need to be ironed out still. gaza and beyond. but right now,
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- This seems to be a gift from the lord that we should rejoice
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- In. well, absolutely. i don't no way that we could have this
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- Victory today without god's sovereign involvement. i'm
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- Grateful for president trump. i'm grateful for the prime
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- Minister of israel, their work and courage. but there has to
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- Be the recognition of the hand of god in this, and we'll
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- Celebrate that victory. and all of us can take heart. god keeps
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- His promises in the earth, and what we're watching him fulfill
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- In the land of israel today. he will continue to watch over,
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- But he'll watch over his word in every one of our lives as
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- Well. amen, pastor. and before we let you go, number one allen
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- Jackson. now, folks, check it out every night. every
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- Weeknight here on tbn, 7 p.m. eastern time. number two. we've
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- Got about a minute left. alan, can you take us out in prayer
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- For israel? for america? absolutely. i'm just the warm
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- Up act for you every evening, eric. let's pray. father, i
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- Thank you for the for the tangible reminder today of your
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- Faithfulness in the earth that you watch over your word, that
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- You watch over your covenants, that you keep your people. i
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- Thank you not for only for the peace of jerusalem, but that
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- You are the prince of peace in all the earth, and we can trust
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- You to establish your kingdom. may your name be lifted up and
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- Your purposes break forth in the days ahead, as never before
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- In our lifetimes. we thank you for your faithfulness. in jesus
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- Name, amen. amen. thank you. eric. yes, pastor allen, thank
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- You. god bless my friend. keep up the great work. we'll see
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- You on allen jackson now very soon. god bless alan and folks.
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- Look, i said at the top, this day doesn't happen without
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- President trump. no one knows that better than our good
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- Friend lance wallnau, host of the lance wallnau show. and
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- He's been talking about the trump effect for years. lance,
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- Are you with us? great to see you, my brother. there he is.
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- There he is. great to see you as always, my friend. hey, the
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- Trump effect. we're talking about peace through strength.
- 00:24:08.266 --> 00:24:10.134
- He's got all the leverage in the world, quite literally, and
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- He's not afraid to use it. talk about president trump's imprint
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- On this region, the middle east and the world. yeah. look, we
- 00:24:16.374 --> 00:24:20.244
- Got to get some of those pictures of cyrus the great
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- With a picture of trump all over jerusalem. you know, the
- 00:24:23.047 --> 00:24:27.685
- Friends of zion are advertising. trump is the modern day cyrus.
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- And there's no doubt this is the word that god gave us. by
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- The way, this is christians shaping history. donald trump
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- Is the key actor. it was christians 40 million voting
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- And participating christians that put him in office in 2016
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- And put him back in office again for his third term. and
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- Without that christian alignment with the president
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- That god wanted in office. pray for rulers and those who are in
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- Authority, the bible says, and every now and then they line up
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- Perfectly, and we got the right man in. the other thing is
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- Interesting is i was just in israel. i like you're there.
- 00:25:03.254 --> 00:25:06.290
- You and i are always so funny. we we grew up in the same
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- Neighborhood. you're going in israel? when i'm leaving. i met
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- With ambassador huckabee there. and and the amazing thing to me
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- Is i said to him is the stars align in their courses. when
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- You have donald trump in the white house, bibi netanyahu in
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- Israel, and mike huckabee as an ambassador, you know that god
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- Is setting something up. and by the way, for those that are
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- Prophetic christians, which ought to be our audience, the
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- Three great feasts of israel passover, pentecost and
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- Tabernacles, today marks the last day of the feast of
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- Tabernacles, which is the feast that is coming to the earth of
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- The final end time harvest, where the messiah is going to
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- Come and bring lasting peace. which you're getting here is
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- What you could say is just what it's like when righteousness
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- Prevails for a period of time and the nations are aligned and
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- In peace. i don't think prophetically this is the last
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- Chapter of israel's conflicts. we know that as students of the
- 00:26:04.081 --> 00:26:07.084
- Bible, but it says that god has designed this moment to be a
- 00:26:07.084 --> 00:26:11.956
- Parenthesis around satan's agenda on the earth, and hell
- 00:26:11.956 --> 00:26:15.259
- Is being pushed back so that the end time gospel of the
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- Kingdom can go forth to all the nations. yeah, lance. well said.
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- We've got this unique window, it seems, right now, and i
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- Really feel like israel is a dividing line. you've talked
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- About the sheep and goat nations. it seems to me that
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- Israel is at the dividing line. which way will you go? will you
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- Stand with israel and the jewish people, or against
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- Israel and the jewish people? and we're about to find out,
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- Because, lance, it seems like the abraham accords are very
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- Much back on the table again, thanks in large part to
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- President trump's leadership. it's entirely because of his
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- Leadership. and curiously enough, jared kushner. and i'll
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- Also say something else. donald trump's genius is that he's a
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- Pragmatic entrepreneur. he saw the old guard, the old way of
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- Doing things in washington with the old. i hate to say the old
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- Establishment was stuck. he started investing in mohammed
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- Bin salman, jared kushner, the younger generation of saudis
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- And leaders he has to work with, like turkeys, the guys that are
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- There. but he literally started building relational
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- Infrastructure with the next generation and said, hey guys,
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- What kind of world do you want? you guys could saudi arabia,
- 00:27:25.129 --> 00:27:28.733
- You could be dominating the tech space. arab emirates, you
- 00:27:28.733 --> 00:27:32.203
- Guys could be could be prosperous. we need to deal
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- With this region. and he sold them on the idea that america
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- Was strong enough, stable enough and willing enough to
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- Provide the context for them to deal with iran, their sworn
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- Enemy that they could not go public with, lest there be a
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- Muslim uprising over the division of their own religion.
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- But iran was the enemy and is the enemy of the uae, of iran.
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- And so what you saw is god sovereignly used israel to have
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- To defend its life against hezbollah, against hamas,
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- Against iran. but donald trump, let there be no doubt. isaiah
- 00:28:06.303 --> 00:28:09.907
- 45 donald trump comes along as a modern day cyrus who undoes
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- The military ability of his enemies. isn't it interesting?
- 00:28:14.979 --> 00:28:18.449
- The prince of persia rose up in order to in order to catalyze
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- World war three, a nuclear engagement. and god said no and
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- Knocked that timing back. and now the dragon in china is
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- Rising up. and we've got to pray there'll be a continued
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- Extension of mercy on america, perhaps playing off of the the
- 00:28:34.665 --> 00:28:40.137
- Blessing of our of our support of the of the protection of
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- Israel, because china is the next great threat. and i
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- Believe the next thing is god's going to use donald trump as a
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- Cyrus to push the dragon back. yeah. lance, about a minute
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- Left israel right now. we talked about this window of
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- Peace right now. do you also see a window of prosperity here
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- In israel? do you see israel really shaping up into the
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- Regional superpower, not only in the region, actually, lance,
- 00:29:06.096 --> 00:29:09.033
- But becoming a global power out of the ashes of the october 7th
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- Wars? about a minute left. well, this this is also eric, as you
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- Know, we could find it. we ought to do a bible study on
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- This. now, i get nervous when i hear peace. peace because most
- 00:29:19.310 --> 00:29:22.313
- Of us are like so trigger warning with our end time
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- Prophetic training. the bible says when they say peace, some
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- Come sudden destruction. well, this isn't that. this is a
- 00:29:28.152 --> 00:29:30.921
- Peace. peace because god's promises to israel is that they
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- Would have a period of of extended grace and extended
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- Prosperity and peace that i believe is now coming in. now
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- Is the great moment. they call it the golden era. i'll go with
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- That. i'll say that god has opened up a window for the
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- Flourishing of the gospel throughout the middle east, and
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- Into asia and africa, and into south america and europe. and
- 00:29:53.010 --> 00:29:56.914
- We must be ready, eric, like never before, to actually put
- 00:29:56.914 --> 00:30:00.117
- The pedal to the metal, because the lord is opening up the lane
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- For peace, for prosperity, for the end time gospel. amazing,
- 00:30:03.988 --> 00:30:08.359
- Lance, so well said. great breakdown my friend. folks,
- 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.427
- Check him out on the lance wallnau show x across social
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- Media. lance god bless. keep up the great work my friend.
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- Always great to see you. and folks, if you are just joining
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- Us, our praise audience, of course, this is a tbn special
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- Report on one of the most momentous historic days in the
- 00:30:23.107 --> 00:30:26.176
- History of the modern middle east. the hostages are home.
- 00:30:26.176 --> 00:30:30.014
- President trump spoke before the israeli knesset today. he
- 00:30:30.014 --> 00:30:33.250
- Spoke in egypt today. what a day. and we've got these great
- 00:30:33.250 --> 00:30:37.321
- Clips of the hostages returning home. we've been showing you to
- 00:30:37.321 --> 00:30:41.158
- Showing them to you throughout the first 30 minutes. we'll
- 00:30:41.158 --> 00:30:43.227
- Show them to you throughout the next hour. but we've got a
- 00:30:43.227 --> 00:30:46.330
- Special one here of a man rising out of his wheelchair to
- 00:30:46.330 --> 00:30:50.267
- Greet his young son, returning home from two years of hamas
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- Captivity. folks, you have to see this. take a look. at.
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- Chonda pierce. thank you. sir. you're getting. i. know, i
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- Usually incredible. we are joined now by the ceo of the
- 00:31:32.643 --> 00:31:38.015
- Israeli american council, our good friend ellen car. and
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- Ellen, you see those scenes? and you were the envoy for
- 00:31:40.417 --> 00:31:44.121
- Combating anti-semitism under the trump administration and
- 00:31:44.121 --> 00:31:47.324
- Hamas. really? the depths of anti-semitism, genocidal
- 00:31:47.324 --> 00:31:51.061
- Anti-semitism. now we see triumph today. just in your
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- Role that you've played over the years in fighting this
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- Fight, what were your feelings today? well, eric, you couldn't
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- Have said it better. momentous day, a game changing moment and
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- Truly, truly something that is is breathtaking. and these
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- Images, they capture it. you know, it's very important what
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- You just said that that hamas is an anti-semitic, genocidal
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- Organization. and we can't lose the fact that just because
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- You're talking about israel and the middle east and statecraft
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- And geopolitics, somehow we no longer can talk about jew
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- Hatred. that's what this is. this is a genocidal
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- Anti-semitic organization. and the amazing thing here, eric,
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- Is when i was in the first trump administration, the
- 00:32:36.407 --> 00:32:40.644
- United states stood with israel in a way that it had never
- 00:32:40.644 --> 00:32:44.348
- Stood with israel before, moved the embassy to jerusalem,
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- Recognize sovereignty over the golan heights. we know the
- 00:32:47.985 --> 00:32:51.388
- Whole list. what happened? peace, prosperity, the abraham
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- Accords, right? things that we had never seen and frankly
- 00:32:55.025 --> 00:32:59.596
- Couldn't have imagined happened. and they happened because of
- 00:32:59.596 --> 00:33:02.399
- Strong, resolute, morally clear u.s. leadership. now, then,
- 00:33:02.399 --> 00:33:08.372
- What happened in the intervening years when we
- 00:33:08.372 --> 00:33:11.175
- Projected weakness, we got a bloodbath. israel was was on,
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- You know, was was was attacked brutally on on october 7th.
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- Slaughter of jews in the, in the holy land. and then, of
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- Course, the iranian axis of evil ascendant. and and it was
- 00:33:25.389 --> 00:33:29.593
- Only through israeli strength that israel was able to restore
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- Its deterrent capability, its geopolitical position. now,
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- Fast forward, president trump back total change in u.s.
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- Policy again, a position of strength again, moral clarity
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- Again standing with israel. and what happens? peace. an
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- Arrangement that we never thought was possible. hamas
- 00:33:47.945 --> 00:33:51.248
- Agreed to give up all of the hostages, which we said would
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- They would never do. even president trump said, you know,
- 00:33:55.352 --> 00:33:58.255
- They're going to resist doing that. you know, you know why
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- They didn't? they finally did that. they couldn't resist any
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- Longer because they were pummeled. they were pummeled by
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- Israel with a full green light of the united states. and the
- 00:34:07.064 --> 00:34:11.068
- United states made very clear that we are not going to
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- Tolerate this anymore. and so the moral of the story here is
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- That we have to lead with conviction, with moral clarity.
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- We have to stand with our friends. we've got to support
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- The state of israel, and we have to weaken our enemies. and
- 00:34:26.150 --> 00:34:28.986
- That includes the iranian axis of evil. and this story tells
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- It all we might. eric. the next step might be an expansion of
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- The abraham accords. that's what president trump wants.
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- That's what i think president trump and prime minister
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- Netanyahu are going to get. by the grace of god. this is a
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- Great, great moment, and we should celebrate it. no doubt,
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- Ellen, we're hearing about saudi arabia, of course, but
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- Lebanon, syria, perhaps even coming to the table for the
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- Abraham accords. indonesia. amazing moment. and you
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- Mentioned you mentioned that iranian axis, that ring of fire.
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- Can you talk about how it has been smashed over the past two
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- Years? i mean, two years ago, iran saw it october 7th as the
- 00:35:03.921 --> 00:35:08.025
- Pinnacle of that axis. now the iranian regime itself in
- 00:35:08.025 --> 00:35:11.295
- Shambles. its nuclear program destroyed hamas, hezbollah. the
- 00:35:11.295 --> 00:35:15.165
- Houthis are next on the list. amazing how that ring of fire
- 00:35:15.165 --> 00:35:19.069
- Is pretty much a smoldering heap of ruins right now. well,
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- That's exactly right. i mean, just two years ago, israel was
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- Brought to its knees. this was an attack that was that was not
- 00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:31.348
- Only savage and brutal and barbarous, but an attack that
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- Really rendered israel deeply vulnerable and deeply exposed.
- 00:35:35.219 --> 00:35:39.289
- And don't forget, hamas was always seen and legitimately
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- Seen as the small ticket item, the big ticket item in terms of
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- Terrorist armies was from the north hezbollah in lebanon,
- 00:35:47.264 --> 00:35:51.101
- Which was a a grave threat with its terror armies, but also
- 00:35:51.101 --> 00:35:56.940
- 180,000 rockets and missiles aimed at israel. then you had,
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- Of course, the assad regime in syria. and then you, of course,
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- Had the houthis in yemen. and then, of course, the mothership,
- 00:36:05.082 --> 00:36:08.185
- The head of the octopus, which is iran, the islamic republic
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- Of iran, and all of the death and destruction and mischief
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- That it was working in the region. and so israel, after
- 00:36:15.325 --> 00:36:19.529
- October 7th looked like it was it was as vulnerable as it had
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- Ever been. would it ever be able to restore its deterrent
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- Capability? how could it ever return to a position of
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- Strength? and my goodness, we we have to. it's hard to even
- 00:36:29.473 --> 00:36:33.243
- Imagine that anymore, because in in a year, in the last year
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- And a half, of course, it took a few months to get settled and,
- 00:36:37.514 --> 00:36:40.250
- And, you know, recapture its posture. but in the last year
- 00:36:40.250 --> 00:36:44.221
- And a half year and three quarters, stunning hamas
- 00:36:44.221 --> 00:36:47.624
- Decimated, degraded to to almost nothing. hezbollah
- 00:36:47.624 --> 00:36:53.330
- Decapitated and dramatically attenuated to the point where
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- They really no longer pose a serious threat in its current
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- Form to israel. the assad regime gone, the entire houthi
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- Leadership are wiped out, and then iran, iran, its nuclear
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- Weapon, its nuclear weapons program destroyed. it's it's a
- 00:37:12.049 --> 00:37:16.386
- Iranian islamic revolutionary guard corps, the irgc and the
- 00:37:16.386 --> 00:37:20.524
- Quds force dramatically damaged. i mean, this is a whole new
- 00:37:20.524 --> 00:37:25.128
- Middle east. and when you when you fight evil and this is the
- 00:37:25.128 --> 00:37:29.032
- Bottom line, when you fight evil and when evil is in
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- Retreat, then good has a place to to grow and expand. and
- 00:37:33.303 --> 00:37:38.075
- That's what we're seeing now as, as, as good, productive actors
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- Come together and say, okay, now let's turn a new page. now
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- Is the time to usher in a new chapter, a new chapter of not
- 00:37:46.450 --> 00:37:50.087
- Only ending the conflict in gaza, but a new chapter for the
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- Entire region. and yes, you're right, saudi arabia and and
- 00:37:55.258 --> 00:37:58.261
- Lebanon now is not only talking normalization, which we have to
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- See if it will happen, but lebanon is currently engaged in
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- The disarmament of hezbollah. can you imagine such a thing?
- 00:38:05.902 --> 00:38:09.306
- We would have said this as a fantasy only only a year ago.
- 00:38:09.306 --> 00:38:14.144
- We would have said such a thing as a fantasy. and today it's
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- Happening. and of course, syria is negotiating with israel, a
- 00:38:17.881 --> 00:38:20.650
- Sworn enemy to israel for years now, negotiating with israel.
- 00:38:20.650 --> 00:38:24.054
- This is a time of miracles. now we are not out of the woods.
- 00:38:24.054 --> 00:38:29.826
- It's precarious. iran is not gone. the islamic republic is
- 00:38:29.826 --> 00:38:33.563
- Still is still there. they could potentially go back to a
- 00:38:33.563 --> 00:38:36.099
- Nuclear weapons program, which which is why president trump,
- 00:38:36.099 --> 00:38:39.102
- Again, so smart, such great leadership said, let me tell
- 00:38:39.102 --> 00:38:43.340
- You something. those planes are going to go right back there.
- 00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:46.276
- If iran goes, goes, decides to to repurpose its nuclear
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- Weapons, to go back to its nuclear weapons program and
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- Restart it. and so this is, you know, we have to be vigilant.
- 00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:58.155
- But my goodness, what a time we're in. and again, it's
- 00:38:58.155 --> 00:39:01.725
- Strength and determination and smart leadership that got us
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- Here. peace through strength. we keep coming back to it.
- 00:39:05.395 --> 00:39:08.565
- Right. it's a biblical value by the way eric, you know peace
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- Through strength is a biblical value. and it's it's you know,
- 00:39:11.468 --> 00:39:15.605
- We we keep seeing the fruits of that doctrine over and over and
- 00:39:15.605 --> 00:39:18.375
- Over again. when you're weak, bad things happen. and when the
- 00:39:18.375 --> 00:39:22.112
- Good guys are strong, peace is is made possible. god willing,
- 00:39:22.112 --> 00:39:26.316
- We should see real peace throughout the region. ellen.
- 00:39:26.316 --> 00:39:29.286
- It always works. and as prime minister netanyahu has said,
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- First comes the strength and then comes the peace. it never
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- Fails. ellen carr, great job as always, my friend. folks, be
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- Sure to follow him on x across social media. god bless. we'll
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- See you again soon. and joining us now, another good friend,
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- Chief strategist for the middle east forum, president of world
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- Strategy jim hansen is with us right now. jim, it's been
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- Really striking to me that all the so-called pro-peace
- 00:39:51.508 --> 00:39:55.145
- Demonstrators who wanted to end the supposed genocide, they're
- 00:39:55.145 --> 00:39:59.449
- Dead silent right now. there's crickets chirping. where are
- 00:39:59.449 --> 00:40:02.185
- They? you think they'd be in the streets in jubilation in
- 00:40:02.185 --> 00:40:05.021
- Places like new york city and d.c. but they're not jim. what
- 00:40:05.021 --> 00:40:08.492
- Gives? yeah, they're binge eating ice cream and crying
- 00:40:08.492 --> 00:40:12.062
- Because they didn't actually want peace. they wanted israel
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- To lose. and they're not getting what they want. israel
- 00:40:14.965 --> 00:40:18.335
- Comes out on top of this. you know, obviously it's a blessing
- 00:40:18.335 --> 00:40:22.772
- To have the hostages home, but there's a lot of work to do.
- 00:40:22.772 --> 00:40:26.176
- And i think the people right now who are failing to cheer or
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- Even in some cases, cheering against this peace process,
- 00:40:29.145 --> 00:40:33.416
- Have a detestable, you know, kind of demeanor. and i don't
- 00:40:33.416 --> 00:40:38.088
- Think they're the people we should listen to. let's listen
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- To the people of gaza who want freedom from hamas and in
- 00:40:41.291 --> 00:40:44.294
- Israel, who just want prosperity, peace and security.
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- Yeah. i mean, this combination of radical islamists and the
- 00:40:47.564 --> 00:40:51.034
- Radical left, obviously, jim, you've talked about a bunch
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- Over the years, but do you think a bit today, too? i mean,
- 00:40:53.470 --> 00:40:57.173
- It's a day of jubilation, of course, but you got to think
- 00:40:57.173 --> 00:40:59.943
- That these european leaders i'm thinking of starmer, macron,
- 00:40:59.943 --> 00:41:03.213
- You think of carney in canada, australia as well, that
- 00:41:03.213 --> 00:41:06.182
- Recognize the palestinian state unilaterally no matter what
- 00:41:06.182 --> 00:41:10.053
- Israel thought about it. they seem to have egg on their face
- 00:41:10.053 --> 00:41:13.323
- Right now because appeasement does not work. and president
- 00:41:13.323 --> 00:41:16.493
- Trump's peace through strength approach brought the results.
- 00:41:16.493 --> 00:41:20.163
- They literally made the peace process last longer than it
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- Needed to by recognizing a palestinian state and by
- 00:41:24.167 --> 00:41:27.470
- Sabotaging negotiations all the way along. they didn't think
- 00:41:27.470 --> 00:41:31.241
- Hamas was getting a good enough deal, and in this case, they
- 00:41:31.241 --> 00:41:34.377
- Actually have to go ahead and admit that it took president
- 00:41:34.377 --> 00:41:38.882
- Trump's steamrolling their objections and bringing in the
- 00:41:38.882 --> 00:41:42.052
- Gulf states and others to go ahead and bring a peace to the
- 00:41:42.052 --> 00:41:45.088
- Region that the europeans are now trying to climb on the back
- 00:41:45.088 --> 00:41:48.491
- Of, like baby possums onto a mama possums back. and he did.
- 00:41:48.491 --> 00:41:53.396
- Really, jim, literally steamroll them. if you caught
- 00:41:53.396 --> 00:41:56.433
- His handshake today with emmanuel macron, the president
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- Of france, that's another story. but okay, decks are cleared a
- 00:41:59.069 --> 00:42:02.973
- Bit. the iranian axis smashed that ring of fire in ruins.
- 00:42:02.973 --> 00:42:06.943
- Largely still a threat. but two years on, clearly a shell of
- 00:42:06.943 --> 00:42:11.348
- What they were. jim, what are the threats? you see? of course
- 00:42:11.348 --> 00:42:14.417
- We're talking. it's a great day. peace on the horizon. but it's
- 00:42:14.417 --> 00:42:18.488
- The world's most chaotic region. what are some of your remaining
- 00:42:18.488 --> 00:42:21.157
- Concerns in the middle east? again, not to overshadow this
- 00:42:21.157 --> 00:42:24.928
- Historic, jubilant day, but are you watching turkey? are you
- 00:42:24.928 --> 00:42:28.331
- Watching qatar, the muslim brotherhood? what concerns you
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- As you look ahead? i think the reactions of countries like
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- Turkey and qatar who were very involved in this peace process,
- 00:42:37.474 --> 00:42:41.277
- President trump brought them in purposely because of their
- 00:42:41.277 --> 00:42:45.148
- Ability to influence hamas, partly due to the fact that
- 00:42:45.148 --> 00:42:48.118
- They paid hamas. they helped them, they supported them, they
- 00:42:48.118 --> 00:42:51.388
- Housed them. so they had a lot of influence over hamas. and i
- 00:42:51.388 --> 00:42:56.226
- Think now hamas is already, you know, committing mass
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- Executions all across gaza. of all the people who they
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- Consider a threat to their reestablishment of their rule,
- 00:43:03.233 --> 00:43:06.236
- It's going to require turkey and qatar and other gulf arab
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- States to go ahead and put the hammer down on them to stop
- 00:43:10.040 --> 00:43:14.044
- Them from doing that, because without the idf in gaza, there
- 00:43:14.044 --> 00:43:18.615
- Is no law and hamas is running rampant again. so their
- 00:43:18.615 --> 00:43:22.118
- Reaction to that is what i'm really interested in seeing.
- 00:43:22.118 --> 00:43:25.088
- Yeah. no doubt. jim, can you talk a bit about this
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- Partnership between president trump and prime minister
- 00:43:27.457 --> 00:43:29.359
- Netanyahu? i've compared them to two modern day churchillian
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- Figures. i think, of reagan and thatcher bringing down the
- 00:43:32.462 --> 00:43:36.633
- Soviet empire during the 1980s, trump and bibi bringing down
- 00:43:36.633 --> 00:43:39.235
- That iranian terror empire. can you talk a bit more, a bit more
- 00:43:39.235 --> 00:43:43.473
- About that historic partnership? i think what president trump
- 00:43:43.473 --> 00:43:47.444
- Continued to see was that israel is the indispensable
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- Nation in the middle east. and the question was, how do we
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- Create a situation where the rest of the countries, the gulf
- 00:43:54.984 --> 00:43:59.723
- States, and the others can go ahead and accept israel's
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- Existence without compromising their core cultural values? and
- 00:44:02.726 --> 00:44:07.197
- I think he gave them the opportunity to do that. he said,
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- You come along with me on this journey. we're going to, you
- 00:44:11.034 --> 00:44:14.003
- Know, expand on the abraham accords. we're going to open up
- 00:44:14.003 --> 00:44:17.240
- Trade. it's going to be a new golden age for the middle east.
- 00:44:17.240 --> 00:44:20.243
- But to do that, you have to help me take care of iran and
- 00:44:20.243 --> 00:44:24.214
- Take care of the palestinian problem. and at this point,
- 00:44:24.214 --> 00:44:28.017
- Those two things are in better shape than they have been in my
- 00:44:28.017 --> 00:44:32.388
- Lifetime. now, the question is, can we move forward on the
- 00:44:32.388 --> 00:44:35.525
- Other half of that, which is a broader peace and prosperity
- 00:44:35.525 --> 00:44:38.461
- For the region? and i think that's what president trump
- 00:44:38.461 --> 00:44:41.264
- Promised them. and i think that's what they want. yeah,
- 00:44:41.264 --> 00:44:44.567
- Jim, i think president trump clearly sees israel, rightly so,
- 00:44:44.567 --> 00:44:47.303
- As the first line of defense for western civilization. and
- 00:44:47.303 --> 00:44:51.841
- Yet we have segments even on the right now. i guess you
- 00:44:51.841 --> 00:44:54.210
- Could call them the woke, right. some have used that terminology
- 00:44:54.210 --> 00:44:57.814
- Who are turning against israel. can you talk about how
- 00:44:57.814 --> 00:45:00.116
- Concerned you are about that, that there seems to be amnesia
- 00:45:00.116 --> 00:45:03.086
- Among some, even on the american right, about the
- 00:45:03.086 --> 00:45:06.389
- Crucial role israel plays in defense of the region and
- 00:45:06.389 --> 00:45:10.026
- Defense of western civilization? yeah, there is a rising
- 00:45:10.026 --> 00:45:15.899
- Anti-semitism, anti-israel sentiment that i think is
- 00:45:15.899 --> 00:45:20.236
- Problematic. it's always been deeply embedded in the left.
- 00:45:20.236 --> 00:45:24.207
- But now the people on the right who don't understand, and in
- 00:45:24.207 --> 00:45:27.243
- Many cases, they've been educated improperly. if they
- 00:45:27.243 --> 00:45:30.380
- Went to college in the united states, everything they learned
- 00:45:30.380 --> 00:45:33.650
- Was wrong. so they have no idea about the history. they listen
- 00:45:33.650 --> 00:45:38.054
- To the lies and the propaganda that say, israel is the problem.
- 00:45:38.054 --> 00:45:42.826
- And the poor palestinians have lived under apartheid and been
- 00:45:42.826 --> 00:45:45.795
- Oppressed, you know, and occupied. none of which is true,
- 00:45:45.795 --> 00:45:49.232
- You know, and it's the same thing that led to this idea
- 00:45:49.232 --> 00:45:53.036
- That there was a gaza genocide. there is an entire industry,
- 00:45:53.036 --> 00:45:56.406
- And it's a global one designed to push down on israel and prop
- 00:45:56.406 --> 00:46:01.878
- Up the palestinians, partly due to islamist sentiments and
- 00:46:01.878 --> 00:46:04.981
- Partly due to, as you mentioned, the revolutionary left. so
- 00:46:04.981 --> 00:46:08.184
- That's where we're sitting with the with the problems we have
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- On the right. and i think it's going to take some education
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- And a little bit of pushback from those of us who do
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- Understand to tell them that's not the case. jim, thank god we
- 00:46:18.261 --> 00:46:21.464
- Have you doing the educating my friend world strat the middle
- 00:46:21.464 --> 00:46:24.133
- East forum, of course folks, follow jim hansen on x across
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- Social media. jim great breakdown as always. god bless
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- My friend. we will see you again soon. and look folks,
- 00:46:30.073 --> 00:46:32.976
- Wrap your head around this. and jim and i were just discussing
- 00:46:32.976 --> 00:46:36.546
- The rise of anti-semitism, even here in america, even among
- 00:46:36.546 --> 00:46:40.149
- Some segments of the right here in america, it makes no sense.
- 00:46:40.149 --> 00:46:43.786
- It's completely irrational because this is, at the end of
- 00:46:43.786 --> 00:46:46.356
- The day, a spiritual battle. again, wrap your head around
- 00:46:46.356 --> 00:46:50.159
- This for a second. the jewish people make up 0.02% of the
- 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:56.332
- World's entire population. there are 8 billion people on
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- This earth, only 16 million of them are jews. that's it. not
- 00:47:01.371 --> 00:47:06.109
- Only that, the world's one and only jewish state, the nation
- 00:47:06.109 --> 00:47:09.145
- Of israel, is the size of the state of new jersey. to put it
- 00:47:09.145 --> 00:47:14.017
- In even starker terms, israel is the size of the dallas fort
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- Worth metroplex where i'm sitting right now. hint, hint.
- 00:47:19.088 --> 00:47:22.392
- That's tiny. there are 10 million people in the nation of
- 00:47:22.392 --> 00:47:26.629
- Israel. only 8 million are jews. and yet the world is quite
- 00:47:26.629 --> 00:47:31.901
- Literally obsessed with israel. think of the u.n. the u.n.
- 00:47:31.901 --> 00:47:35.905
- Since its inception in the late 1940s, has passed more
- 00:47:35.905 --> 00:47:40.043
- Resolutions condemning israel than any other nation. that
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- Includes communist china, cuba, iran, syria, the soviet union,
- 00:47:44.180 --> 00:47:48.918
- On and on and on. why? why have the jewish people, this tiny,
- 00:47:48.918 --> 00:47:54.190
- Minuscule people group throughout the centuries, been
- 00:47:54.190 --> 00:47:57.327
- Blamed for everything from the black death, the plague, to, in
- 00:47:57.327 --> 00:48:00.396
- More recent times, nine over 11? now we even hear these insane
- 00:48:00.396 --> 00:48:05.335
- Conspiracy theories that it was the jews behind charlie kirk's
- 00:48:05.335 --> 00:48:10.073
- Assassination. again, there's no rationale to this. it makes
- 00:48:10.073 --> 00:48:14.377
- No sense at all, other than this is a spiritual battle. no
- 00:48:14.377 --> 00:48:21.217
- Doubt the devil. yes, he exists. if you believe in the god of
- 00:48:21.217 --> 00:48:25.288
- Abraham, isaac, and jacob, the god of israel, you need to
- 00:48:25.288 --> 00:48:28.091
- Believe in the devil as well. he does exist and he hates the
- 00:48:28.091 --> 00:48:31.461
- Jewish people, and he hates israel because they are proof
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- Of god's existence. now, today, this incredible historic event,
- 00:48:35.198 --> 00:48:39.302
- Prime minister netanyahu and president trump, of course,
- 00:48:39.302 --> 00:48:43.306
- Speaking before the israeli knesset and prime minister
- 00:48:43.306 --> 00:48:46.609
- Netanyahu, laid out in this great clip how, yes, the
- 00:48:46.609 --> 00:48:51.080
- Demonic forces in the middle east aligned against israel.
- 00:48:51.080 --> 00:48:54.017
- But israel came out on top against all odds. take a look.
- 00:48:54.017 --> 00:48:59.022
- More and more governments bought into hamas's false
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- Propaganda. more and more governments succumbed to
- 00:49:03.359 --> 00:49:06.496
- Anti-semitic mobs in their own countries. they just turned on
- 00:49:06.496 --> 00:49:10.533
- Israel. they called for us to surrender to hamas demands to
- 00:49:10.533 --> 00:49:14.203
- Leave gaza immediately, they said, end the war without
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- Committing to disarm hamas, without committing to
- 00:49:17.140 --> 00:49:21.377
- Demilitarize gaza. had israel succumbed to those demands, not
- 00:49:21.377 --> 00:49:26.315
- Only would sinwar and nasrallah, assad and iran's missile and
- 00:49:26.315 --> 00:49:31.988
- Nuclear program remain intact. not only that, because in no
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- Time hamas killers would be back on the border fence, ready
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- To repeat the horrors of october 7th again and again, as
- 00:49:42.265 --> 00:49:46.202
- They vowed to do. but just at that point, just at that point
- 00:49:46.202 --> 00:49:52.442
- Of maximum pressure on israel, a man named donald j. trump was
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- Elected president of the united states. and, ladies and
- 00:49:59.115 --> 00:50:05.488
- Gentlemen, overnight, overnight, everything changed. everything.
- 00:50:05.488 --> 00:50:15.331
- Indeed it did. and we are joined now by our good friend
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- Lisa daftari. folks, check her out. the foreign desk news.com.
- 00:50:19.001 --> 00:50:22.405
- Lisa, always great to see you and what a day. right. and how
- 00:50:22.405 --> 00:50:26.209
- The tide has turned over the past two years. i was
- 00:50:26.209 --> 00:50:29.178
- Discussing it earlier with jim hansen, our prior guest. you're
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- An expert, of course, lisa, in iran, that iranian axis. and
- 00:50:32.482 --> 00:50:36.919
- Now the decks are cleared. in a sense, iran still dangerous,
- 00:50:36.919 --> 00:50:40.723
- But very much wounded. and it seems to me that israel is
- 00:50:40.723 --> 00:50:44.927
- Stepping into a role as the regional superpower, even a
- 00:50:44.927 --> 00:50:48.431
- Global power. how do you see it? absolutely. there is so much
- 00:50:48.431 --> 00:50:53.269
- Potential. and of course, today we want to focus on the
- 00:50:53.269 --> 00:50:57.106
- Optimism, the hope, the positivity, and really the
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- Prospect of a middle east that can be. and we got a glimpse of
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- That in trump's first term under the abraham accords,
- 00:51:04.180 --> 00:51:07.583
- Where he was able, through his vision to bring the moderate
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- Arab states around and say, israel doesn't have to be the
- 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:15.491
- Bad guy. israel can be your partner in bringing you
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- Prosperity and taking you into the next chapter of modernity
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- For the region that has never seen that before. now, you
- 00:51:20.229 --> 00:51:24.200
- Talked about the devil, and i think that's a that's a great
- 00:51:24.200 --> 00:51:28.037
- Way to put it. the devil stands right next to this vision and
- 00:51:28.037 --> 00:51:31.140
- Says, well, there's still money that can come from iran's
- 00:51:31.140 --> 00:51:34.443
- Regime, and there is still a deadly ideology where we are
- 00:51:34.443 --> 00:51:38.214
- Indoctrinating young people to blow themselves up, to do
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- October 7th, again and again and again as hamas has
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- Threatened. so when we talk about the deal that donald
- 00:51:45.354 --> 00:51:48.357
- Trump put on the table, there's 20 points of that deal. and of
- 00:51:48.357 --> 00:51:51.727
- Course, anyone who has a heart is focused on the 20 hostages
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- And the 28, the dead hostages coming home. but the more
- 00:51:55.331 --> 00:52:00.169
- Important part in terms of of the future of the region, in
- 00:52:00.169 --> 00:52:04.407
- Terms of stability, in terms of october 7th, not happening
- 00:52:04.407 --> 00:52:07.410
- Again and again and again, is disarming and dismantling hamas
- 00:52:07.410 --> 00:52:11.347
- And other terror group in the region. and if we are not able
- 00:52:11.347 --> 00:52:15.651
- To do that, the money and the indoctrination coming together
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- Will create more and more. october 7th. so again, it's a
- 00:52:18.287 --> 00:52:23.125
- Day where we want to focus on the the former and not the
- 00:52:23.125 --> 00:52:26.028
- Latter, and we want to focus on the possibility of bringing
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- This other middle east to the region. and kudos to donald
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- Trump. only donald trump can round up the moderate arab
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- States and not just say, you know, let's move forward on
- 00:52:37.206 --> 00:52:40.543
- This plan. he sold them a vision. he said, this is what
- 00:52:40.543 --> 00:52:44.013
- We're moving forward with. you need to support israel. you
- 00:52:44.013 --> 00:52:47.617
- Need to support the ceasefire. you need to put an end to
- 00:52:47.617 --> 00:52:50.653
- Radicalization because you don't want it on your borders.
- 00:52:50.653 --> 00:52:53.055
- Israel certainly doesn't want it for them. and we need to
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- Move forward together. and because of his relationship
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- With these nations, because of his vision that he was able to
- 00:52:59.128 --> 00:53:02.131
- Sell, because of what he was able to do under the abraham
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- Accords in his first term, he was able to get this deal
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- Through. yeah, lisa, great points all around. and you make
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- A key point. yesterday is a day to celebrate. but this was only
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- Phase one. there is much work to be done. hey, on that
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- Positive note though, you see the jubilation in israel today.
- 00:53:17.179 --> 00:53:20.383
- The hostages return. hamas vanquished largely, the iranian
- 00:53:20.383 --> 00:53:23.452
- Regime weakened. do you think the events we're seeing unfold
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- Right now in the region can inspire freedom loving people?
- 00:53:26.389 --> 00:53:31.093
- Dissidents in places like iran, other nations around the region,
- 00:53:31.093 --> 00:53:34.230
- Really across the world, people who are starving for freedom.
- 00:53:34.230 --> 00:53:37.466
- They see what just went down with israel. they see president
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- Trump's support for israel, support for freedom loving
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- Forces. maybe this could spark some inspiration around the
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- Region and around the globe. absolutely. and i want to
- 00:53:46.942 --> 00:53:51.380
- Remind people, and i'll never forget the eve of october 7th,
- 00:53:51.380 --> 00:53:55.985
- 2023. i had just filed a very large magazine article on the
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- One year anniversary of the mahsa amini protests, and that
- 00:54:02.391 --> 00:54:05.928
- Was the protest that began after the death of a 22 year
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- Old iranian woman who was showing a bit of her hair under
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- Her hijab. people ran into the streets, there were protests
- 00:54:14.537 --> 00:54:17.440
- And people calling for the end of the regime. and you really
- 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.376
- Saw the courage and the bravery of the iranian people. it was
- 00:54:20.376 --> 00:54:24.480
- Led by iranian women, but supported by iranian men and
- 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.049
- Everyone across the board. and it was truly probably the most
- 00:54:27.049 --> 00:54:32.355
- Important protests that we've ever seen in the last 46 years
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- Under this regime in iran. and then october 7th happened and
- 00:54:36.392 --> 00:54:40.563
- All the focus was on stopping the hamas and stopping iran's
- 00:54:40.563 --> 00:54:45.768
- Regime from supporting hamas. and all the focus was on
- 00:54:45.768 --> 00:54:49.238
- Outside of of iran and not inside iran. so i think, you
- 00:54:49.238 --> 00:54:53.142
- Know, it's important to say now, of course, this will give this
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- Will invigorate every freedom loving person in the middle
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- East to say we want an end to radicalism. and i think that's
- 00:54:59.982 --> 00:55:03.986
- Where we see that support for something like the abraham
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- Accords. most people in the middle east, we're not talking
- 00:55:07.723 --> 00:55:11.160
- About gaza or the west bank or really radicalized houthis in
- 00:55:11.160 --> 00:55:14.330
- Yemen or radicalized syrians in syria. we're talking about the
- 00:55:14.330 --> 00:55:18.167
- People of saudi arabia and the people of bahrain. and the
- 00:55:18.167 --> 00:55:21.470
- People who are their governments are now signatory
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- To the abraham accords. they want better for their children.
- 00:55:23.672 --> 00:55:26.308
- They do want them to have a life away from radicalism. and
- 00:55:26.308 --> 00:55:30.312
- More than anything, those leaders want to keep that
- 00:55:30.312 --> 00:55:32.214
- Extremism outside of of their borders as well. so, you know,
- 00:55:32.214 --> 00:55:36.252
- We're looking at a time where people are absolutely
- 00:55:36.252 --> 00:55:40.322
- Invigorated by the stability, prosperity and cleaning up of
- 00:55:40.322 --> 00:55:46.128
- The middle east. a new page, a new day, a new dawn, however
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- You want to call it. i think this will be an absolute page
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- Turner for everyone in the middle east, and particularly
- 00:55:53.068 --> 00:55:56.505
- The iranian people. there is such an organic, a symbiotic
- 00:55:56.505 --> 00:55:59.675
- Relationship between the people of iran and the people of
- 00:55:59.675 --> 00:56:03.145
- Israel. there's one thing i've always criticized israel's pr.
- 00:56:03.145 --> 00:56:08.517
- We've seen the propaganda machine from hamas. we've seen
- 00:56:08.517 --> 00:56:10.453
- The iran regime's political warfare machine and really
- 00:56:10.453 --> 00:56:14.690
- Duping, whether it's college students or college professors
- 00:56:14.690 --> 00:56:18.227
- Or the mainstream media or the woke left, the woke right,
- 00:56:18.227 --> 00:56:22.498
- Whoever you want to call it, they have brainwashed everyone
- 00:56:22.498 --> 00:56:24.467
- Across the board, and israel has not done a good job at
- 00:56:24.467 --> 00:56:27.970
- Keeping up with that level of pr because they are honest and
- 00:56:27.970 --> 00:56:32.208
- They have a democracy, of course. but the one thing i
- 00:56:32.208 --> 00:56:35.144
- Will absolutely credit the israeli government, israeli
- 00:56:35.144 --> 00:56:39.048
- Media, the israeli people with is making it absolutely clear
- 00:56:39.048 --> 00:56:43.018
- As day that they stand in solidarity with the freedom
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- Loving people of iran. and the the opposite is true as well.
- 00:56:47.056 --> 00:56:52.094
- So many iranians that i get to speak to on a daily basis, that
- 00:56:52.094 --> 00:56:55.197
- Support the people of israel that are celebrating side by
- 00:56:55.197 --> 00:56:58.567
- Side with them today, that talk about a potential cyrus accords,
- 00:56:58.567 --> 00:57:02.438
- A deal, a kind of an abraham accords, but between the people
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- Of iran and the people of israel, because that is such a
- 00:57:06.675 --> 00:57:10.012
- Natural relationship to hardworking, smart, freedom
- 00:57:10.012 --> 00:57:15.184
- Loving people of the middle east who celebrate life and not
- 00:57:15.184 --> 00:57:18.087
- Death, who want a life away from this extremism and really
- 00:57:18.087 --> 00:57:23.025
- Want to see a new day for the middle east. so we do pray for
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- The people of israel and the people of iran to have that
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- Freedom away from this extremism and to find each
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- Other again under cyrus accords. amen. lisa, from your lips to
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- God's ears, the cyrus accords. love, lisa daftari folks, check
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- Her out at the foreign desk. lisa, keep up the great work.
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- God bless. we'll see you again soon. and folks, throughout
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- This 90 minute special about the peace plan in gaza, we've
- 00:57:44.914 --> 00:57:48.317
- Been showing you highlights from today, the incredible
- 00:57:48.317 --> 00:57:51.320
- Reunions of israeli hostages reunited with their families.
- 00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.290
- Here's another very moving clip. some scenes from earlier today.
- 00:57:54.290 --> 00:57:59.194
- Take a look. israel adonai eloheinu adonai baruch atah.
- 00:57:59.194 --> 00:58:08.470
- Adonai eloheinu. shimmy shimmy
- 00:58:08.470 --> 00:58:19.515
- Shimmy shimmy. oh, stuttering. stuttering. oh. i'm. olive.
- 00:58:19.615 --> 00:58:36.365
- Shimmy. oh, no! no. folks. just
- 00:58:36.365 --> 00:58:49.979
- Incredibly powerful. and no one knows this better than our good
- 00:58:51.246 --> 00:58:55.417
- Friend chris mitchell. he has been on the ground for 25 years.
- 00:58:55.417 --> 00:58:59.488
- We call him the dean of middle east journalists. tbn news,
- 00:58:59.488 --> 00:59:03.225
- Middle east bureau chief, host of course of the jerusalem
- 00:59:03.225 --> 00:59:06.195
- Dateline show. hey brother. it is late at night in jerusalem.
- 00:59:06.195 --> 00:59:09.999
- I know you've had a long day but chris 25 years on the
- 00:59:09.999 --> 00:59:14.269
- Ground in god's city covering all this up close. have you
- 00:59:14.269 --> 00:59:17.239
- Ever seen a day like today in israel? in all your time there?
- 00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.177
- No, i don't think i have, eric. you know, after two years of
- 00:59:22.177 --> 00:59:26.248
- This nightmare of all these hostages, 251 and now the 20
- 00:59:26.248 --> 00:59:31.286
- Living remaining hostages are finally back home, 28, maybe 26
- 00:59:31.286 --> 00:59:36.258
- Of those bodies yet to come home. but but the living ones
- 00:59:36.258 --> 00:59:41.664
- And that emotional reunion just multiplied over and over again.
- 00:59:41.664 --> 00:59:45.267
- You know, eric, i was at hostage square over the weekend.
- 00:59:45.267 --> 00:59:48.303
- This is sort of the epicenter, the emotional heartbeat of
- 00:59:48.303 --> 00:59:52.675
- People that were just advocating for those hostages.
- 00:59:52.675 --> 00:59:55.344
- And, you know, many people say they were just telling me, we
- 00:59:55.344 --> 00:59:59.381
- Can breathe again. once they come home, we can breathe again.
- 00:59:59.381 --> 01:00:02.151
- It's like the family is home. they're reunited. you've been
- 01:00:02.151 --> 01:00:05.220
- Here so many times, eric, you know that eric israel is more
- 01:00:05.220 --> 01:00:08.190
- Like a family, and everybody is internalized these hostages as
- 01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:12.261
- Their own, just like it would be their own son or daughter or
- 01:00:12.261 --> 01:00:16.765
- Father or mother. and here they are coming home. and this first
- 01:00:16.765 --> 01:00:20.235
- Phase of trump's plan, eric, i think, is just genius for them
- 01:00:20.235 --> 01:00:25.708
- Because it allows israel to go on emotionally. i think there
- 01:00:25.708 --> 01:00:29.211
- Will be a lot of divisions that may be healed internally here,
- 01:00:29.211 --> 01:00:34.216
- And i feel like this is the only way that they can get back
- 01:00:34.216 --> 01:00:38.287
- To being a society again, because there's so much angst
- 01:00:38.287 --> 01:00:42.224
- About these family members that are finally come home and we
- 01:00:42.224 --> 01:00:46.061
- See this incredible emotional reunions all throughout the day.
- 01:00:46.061 --> 01:00:50.099
- Yeah, chris, we saw president trump, of course, who you
- 01:00:50.099 --> 01:00:53.001
- Mentioned speak today at the knesset. he spoke in egypt. how
- 01:00:53.001 --> 01:00:56.171
- Is he perceived in israel? he seems to be very, very popular
- 01:00:56.171 --> 01:01:00.209
- Inside the world's one and only jewish state. well, eric, if he
- 01:01:00.209 --> 01:01:05.180
- Ran for prime minister, he would win in a landslide. right
- 01:01:05.180 --> 01:01:07.616
- Now, everybody is giving him the lion's share of the credit
- 01:01:07.616 --> 01:01:11.286
- That he was able to broker this peace plan and bring all the
- 01:01:11.286 --> 01:01:14.323
- Hostages back. it was like a love fest there in the knesset
- 01:01:14.323 --> 01:01:18.093
- Today. so many standing ovations that he got during his
- 01:01:18.093 --> 01:01:22.464
- Speech, very extemporaneous, very, very off the cuff in many
- 01:01:22.464 --> 01:01:26.635
- Ways. but he they love president trump. there you see.
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- Thank you, mr. president. that's down in tel aviv. there
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- Were a number of banners in tel aviv and around israel just
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- Giving him so much of the credit. but we also need to
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- Give credit to the man that we have called the churchill of
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- Our times here in israel, eric benjamin netanyahu was able to
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- Manage this crisis for the last two years to navigate israel
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- Not only to bring the hostages back, but also to defeat hamas.
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- You know, i shouldn't say defeat hamas because they're
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- Still there and they're promising not to disarm. but
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- But he is able to navigate and develop this extraordinary
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- Relationship between president trump and himself. and i think
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- That really has been the key to make sure that we are where we
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- Are right now in terms of the potential of more middle east
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- Peace, with the caveat for the the dangers that lisa just
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- Talked about. but right now she's, as she said, i think,
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- Which is which is really we need to focus on today the the
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- Joy, the reunion of coming home. you know, there's a scripture
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- In jeremiah 31, i think, that prime minister netanyahu
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- Referred to is they are coming home, back home. and so we can
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- Rejoice in that today. amen. and that trump netanyahu
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- Partnership. chris, we've talked about it a bunch. it is
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- A partnership for the ages, quite literally. do you see
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- Israel now with its enemies? not completely, but largely
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- Vanquished, at least in the short term. do you see israel,
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- Chris, in some ways, now about to step into its prophetic
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- Destiny? i think of genesis 12 three. of course, the first
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- Part of that verse, i will bless those who bless you. i
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- Will curse those who curse you. god says to abraham about the
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- People of israel and the jewish people. but the second part of
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- That verse, we sometimes forget, god says to abraham, and
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- Through you all nations on earth will be blessed. do you
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- See israel perhaps now stepping into that destiny? more and
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- More? i. very much so, eric. and you mentioned that it's now
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- Becoming a regional superpower, even maybe a global superpower.
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- Remember what happened two years ago, the worst day of
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- Israel's history since the holocaust, and now they have
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- Defeated or degraded almost every one of those seven
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- Enemies that surrounded them the houthis, hamas, hezbollah,
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- Iranian backed militias in iraq and syria. iran itself, who
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- Would have guessed two years ago israel would be on the
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- Precipice of really stepping into its prophetic destiny. and
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- We see that, you know, prophecy unfolding before our brother,
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- And we're just privileged to be able to report on that. the
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- Amazing work you do day by day, telling people about and
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- Explaining how we are living in prophetic times. and here we
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- Are, israel, walking into its prophetic destiny. amen,
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- Brother. and none of that happens without prayer. we were
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- All praying, of course, the body of christ over the past
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- Two years, but it seems like there's a revival stirring even
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- In israel. a hunger for the god of israel. chris, about a
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- Minute left, can you take us out here in prayer for israel,
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- For america, the hostage and just the state of the world
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- Right now? sure, father. we just lift this day up. we just
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- Thank you, father, that so many families have been reunited
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- Today. people have prayed for this fast and for this long for
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- This, and cried out to you that these would come together. and
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- Here we are. and father, we pray for the protection over
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- The jewish people and the jewish state. we thank you that
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- Your word says that you never slumber nor sleep, but you
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- Watch over. we pray for wisdom for president trump. we pray
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- For that for prime minister netanyahu, and we pray for
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- Israel as it steps into its prophetic destiny. for such a
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- Time as this, we pray for the reincarnation, lord willing, of
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- The cyrus accords. as lisa talked about, that iran and
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- Israel could be reunited as it was thousands of years ago. we
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- Ask this in jesus name. amen. amen. the one and only chris
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- Mitchell. check him out folks. tbn news jerusalem dateline
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- Chris god bless brother. thanks for staying up late with us.
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- We'll see you again soon. great to be with you eric. and
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- Joining us now is richard goldberg. he is a senior
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- Advisor at the foundation for defense of democracies in
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- Washington, dc. and he led the fight at the national security
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- Council during president trump's first term in
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- Countering iran's weapons of mass destruction program.
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- Richard, always great to see you. hey, can you talk about
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- This historic partnership between president trump and
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- Prime minister netanyahu? richard, i've compared them to
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- A pair of modern day churchills working in tandem. talk about
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- How the partnership is changing not only the region, but really
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- Changing history. i think that's completely right. when
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- You think about it, the operative recipe for president
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- Trump's success in his first term was maximum pressure on
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- Iran, combined with maximum support for our ally israel.
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- And the face of that paradigm, arab countries said, hey, i
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- Want to be part of this success. i want to be part of weakening
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- Our enemies, those that don't want to see a better future for
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- The middle east, strengthening partners that are leading the
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- World, not just in defense technology, but as the
- 01:06:50.625 --> 01:06:53.995
- President said today, innovation in the state of
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- Israel. and that's how the abraham accords was born. well,
- 01:06:56.131 --> 01:06:59.067
- President trump went right back to the recipe book when he took
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- Office here, because over the last four years, we had seen a
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- Switch where we were having a maximum deference policy to
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- Iran and pressure on israel. it wasn't working. we got october
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- 7th. we had a seven front war. israel was under pressure to
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- Basically surrender in that war. and had they done that, we
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- Would have a very different picture today. instead,
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- President trump came in and said, israel is our ally. there
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- Are vital allies. he said today in front of the knesset.
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- They're a democracy, shared values, obviously a leader in
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- Defense technology, but in innovation, we're going to
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- Support them. he lifted all the restrictions on military supply
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- That joe biden had put on israel. he said we're going
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- Back to maximum pressure on iran quickly and secretly
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- Coordinated with prime minister netanyahu on what else israel
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- Needed in order to finish the job against iran's ring of fire
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- Around it, and also its nuclear and missile programs came in at
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- The end with his own b-2 bomber strikes. and then all the other
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- Cards sort of came together on the table here as as israel had
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- Already decimated hezbollah. now you have iran itself cut
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- Down to size. hamas on its last legs, a strike in doha that
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- Even made the qataris, the sponsor of the muslim
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- Brotherhood, fear for their own vulnerability. and president
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- Trump was able to then go to the arab world and say, listen,
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- I'm with the winner here. i'm with with my ally israel. we're
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- Not abandoning them. i don't care what european power wants
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- To get up at the un and recognize fictitious
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- Palestinian state. i'm sticking with israel. you can be part of
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- This win, and i can do a lot of great things for you. and i
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- Think that what we saw today was getting all the hostages
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- Out. while israel's military remains in gaza, the president
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- Was there for a victory speech and a victory rally because
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- This is truly the president, united states and the prime
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- Minister of israel declaring victory over iran's ring of
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- Fire against the islamic republic and all of their
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- Terror axis, and saying that now, for those who want to be
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- Part of that winner's circle, that want to be part of the us
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- And israel's vision for the future of peace, come to the
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- Table now, and i hope, i think we will start seeing the saudis,
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- The indonesians, many other countries that don't have
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- Normalized relations with israel say we want to be a part
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- Of this future. and that is really why the president is
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- Talking about the fact that he is the peacemaker in chief here,
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- But he's doing that by having peace through strength. yeah, a
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- Key point there, richard. great breakdown. and as you said,
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- Look, israel, the united states and the free world, the big
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- Winners today, big losers, hamas, of course, but by
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- Extension, the head of the snake of that ring of fire that
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- You mentioned, the iranian regime. you've called attention
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- Speaking winners, losers and how things are going to shake
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- Out in the aftermath of this historic day. you've called a
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- Attention to the nefarious role that qatar has played, and the
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- Regime in turkey as well. as we look ahead, what does the
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- Future where does the future lie for qatar and turkey?
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- They're going to angle to be a be more prominent players in
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- The recovery plan in gaza. where do you see those two
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- Troublesome regimes heading, and will the west hopefully
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- Hold them accountable? yeah, this is a great question. and i
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- Think obviously there's details in the plans for the next phase
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- Of who's doing the demilitarization of gaza that
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- That the president talks about, who's going to actually disarm
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- And verifiably disarm hamas going forward? how is that
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- Going to happen? who's going to be destroying the tunnel
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- Infrastructure throughout gaza? all important questions. i
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- Think one of the key questions that the president talks about
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- Is the deradicalization of palestinian society. he said
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- Today the palestinians need to spend more time focused on
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- Building up their own people instead of tearing down israel.
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- He's totally right. that's why past peace processes have
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- Failed. so what are the key strategic impediments to that
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- In front of us? i think one is the potential for radical
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- Islamist forces to continue to have a hold over palestinian
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- Society. that's the muslim brotherhood. hamas is a branch
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- Of the muslim brotherhood who sponsors it. it's qatar, it's
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- Turkey. how do we actually make sure that the muslim
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- Brotherhood doesn't continue to have a grip there or elsewhere
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- In the world, by the way, operations, the united states
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- As well, we can designate that organization as a terrorist
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- Group. what about al jazeera and turkish media that
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- Radicalizes people throughout the arab world to hate america,
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- Not just israel, that something has to be done there,
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- Especially as we've seen al jazeera embedded with hamas
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- Throughout this war. and then the other side of the coin is
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- The united nations. the un obviously has a whole
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- Institution and apparatus just dedicated to radicalizing
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- Palestinians, to go to war with israel. that has to be
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- Completely dismantled. hamas, islamic jihad, these are not
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- Terrorist groups, according to the u.n. and so if we put the
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- U.n. in any sort of responsibility role in the
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- Reconstruction of gaza or in continuing their operations in
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- Where the palestinian authority operates in the west bank,
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- Judea and samaria, that's a recipe for continued failure
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- And radicalization of the palestinian population. so we
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- Have to deal with the muslim brotherhood, their sponsors,
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- Their media, and we also have to deal with the united nations.
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- Yeah, richard, great points all around. look, today, a day of
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- Jubilation, of course, but much work needs to be done. still,
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- This was only phase one of this gaza peace plan. and you make a
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- Great point about the muslim brotherhood. it is time to
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- Designate them the united states, to designate them as a
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- Terrorist organization. officially, they are the
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- Granddaddy of them all when it% comes to modern islamic terror.
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- Richard. great breakdown folks. be sure to follow richard
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- Goldberg on x and across social media. richard. great work. god
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- Bless. we'll see you again soon. god bless. thank you all.
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- Joining us now is our good friend michelle bachman, dean
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- Of the robertson school of government at regent university,
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- And of course, a former congresswoman. michelle, always
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- Great to see you. and what a day to see you. hey, a day of
- 01:13:00.128 --> 01:13:04.299
- Jubilation in israel for sure. but michelle, it seems to me
- 01:13:04.299 --> 01:13:07.135
- This doesn't happen without president trump's leadership.
- 01:13:07.135 --> 01:13:09.304
- And it seems with the western world seemingly heading off the
- 01:13:09.304 --> 01:13:13.241
- Cliff. i think of great britain and france. it seems the united
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- States more and more is really that shining city on a hill.
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- And we saw that in full effect today. that's true. and we can
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- Be we can just rejoice at the prayers of people all over the
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- World for the last few years, because just think. but for god
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- Intervening at butler, pennsylvania, we may not have
- 01:13:34.128 --> 01:13:38.132
- Had president trump. and that came up during the remarks
- 01:13:38.132 --> 01:13:40.969
- Today at the knesset. everyone realizes that there's a concept
- 01:13:40.969 --> 01:13:45.039
- Known as irreducible complexity. you have to have a certain
- 01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:49.377
- Number of factors at play for something to work. clearly,
- 01:13:49.377 --> 01:13:53.314
- Bibi netanyahu had to be the prime minister of israel. for
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- This to work. donald trump had to be the president of the
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- United states. for this to work, they had to bomb the nuclear
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- Facilities in iran. for this to work. so many things had to
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- Work. that's why we're at this moment, and that's why no man
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- Can take the credit for this, eric, not donald trump, not
- 01:14:14.202 --> 01:14:17.071
- Bibi netanyahu, although they are great men. i don't take
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- Away anything from them. god did this. it's just like in the
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- Old testament when god told israel, you have to get on the
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- Battlefield. i will win the battles, but you've got to get
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- On the battlefield. and what we saw is absolute fearlessness on
- 01:14:31.953 --> 01:14:35.690
- The part of president trump and bibi netanyahu. it was
- 01:14:35.690 --> 01:14:40.161
- Fearlessness to go after this prize of bringing the hostages
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- Home. today was a brilliant day. my day started at 3 a.m. the
- 01:14:44.265 --> 01:14:49.437
- Lord woke me up at 3 a.m. i went to my favorite news sites,
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- And then i watched everything live at the knesset. i was so
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- Filled with joy and gratitude because like all of your
- 01:14:55.977 --> 01:15:00.381
- Viewers, we've been praying nonstop for two years for this
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- To happen. recently, we just did another 40 days of prayer
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- And fasting at regent university. we had over 8000
- 01:15:09.223 --> 01:15:12.193
- People sign up. we had, on average, about 1000 people
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- Every day from all over the world praying for the hostages
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- To come, praying for israel, praying for people to return to
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- The lord and all the all our prayer requests. and i just
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- Want to encourage anyone who was on that call. this is these
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- Are the miracles we talked about. god hears prayer and
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- Answers. this is a day of answered prayer prayers by jews
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- At the western wall, prayers by family members praying for
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- Their family members. praise prayers from america all over
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- The world. people praying for this day so we can't take away
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- From the fact just by focusing on man. this was clearly from
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- The hand of god and the irreducible complexity of every
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- Person that was needful. just even someone who doesn't get a
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- Lot of credit, but who is a big player is ambassador mike
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- Huckabee. we couldn't have a better ambassador than mike
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- Huckabee at this point in history. so everyone played a
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- Role, and i thank god for what it is. and if i could just go
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- Back to what your previous guest was talking about with
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- Deradicalization going forward in gaza, that is the number one
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- Issue. when i was in the us congress, i originally filed
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- The bill to name the muslim brotherhood a foreign terrorist
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- Organization. i sat on the intelligence committee and i
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- Knew the problem was the muslim brotherhood. and of course,
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- Hamas is a franchise of the muslim brotherhood and so on.
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- Numerous visits that i took to the middle east, i met with the
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- Leadership of the palestinian authority, and i looked at the
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- Textbooks that they teach their children from, just like your
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- Viewers, when they sent their kids off to school in the
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- Morning, they'd say something like, be kind and good to in
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- All you say and do to your own children. that's how we treat
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- Our children. not in not the the muslims that are in the in
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- Gaza very different. they teach their children to hate another
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- Group of people. they're very racist in gaza. they hate the
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- Jews. i hate to say this, but they do. and how do we know
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- This? israel offered a lot of money for gazans to come
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- Forward and give them any intelligence on where the
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- Hostages were, or various pieces of information. not one
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- Person, not one taker in all of gaza. that's because the
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- Mothers and the fathers taught their children. your highest
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- Goal is to hate a jew and kill a jew. that's what has to
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- Change. so whether it's coming from southern lebanon or gaza
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- Or any of the countries surrounding israel, that's what
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- Has to change. that's a monumental change. but it can
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- Be done. it happened after world war two, when the allies
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- Decisively destroyed imperial japan. they had the japanese
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- Had to be de-radicalized, just like in nazi germany. the
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- Germans have been brainwashed toward hitler. they had to be
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- Radicalized, which is brainwashed out of their hatred.
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- That's what has to happen now. and more than anything,
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- Rebuilding apartment complexes or anything. nothing should go
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- Forward until the deradicalization the
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- Brainwashing out of the brainwashing has to happen
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- First. such a key point. michelle and president trump
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- Talked about exactly that today in his knesset speech talking
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- About the palestinians. let's take a look. yes. we don't have
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- The clip right now. hopefully we will in a minute. but
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- Michelle, great breakdown again. the deradicalization of gaza is
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- An absolute must. i don't think it happens without the god of
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- Abraham, isaac and jacob. as you said, we do have that clip.
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- Michelle live tv. let's take a quick look. and the choice for
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- Palestinians could not be more clear. this is their chance to
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- Turn forever from the path of terror and violence. it's been
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- Extreme to exile the wicked forces of hate that are in
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- Their midst, and i think that's going to happen. i've met some
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- People over the last couple of months that want to see it
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- Happen very much. and after tremendous pain and death and
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- Hardship, now is the time to concentrate on building their
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- People up instead of trying to tear israel down. we don't want
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- That to happen again. amazing. michelle. i'm so glad he called
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- That out. number one. and number two, we only have about
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- A minute left with you, unfortunately. but revival
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- Stirring in america, you see that up close? obviously at
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- Regent university, even israelis turning more and more
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- To the god of abraham, isaac and jacob, it seems that we are
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- Moving into some very important prophetic times. how do you see
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- It? about a minute left. we're in revival, so we've all been
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- Praying for it. we're in it. church attendance is up by 15%,
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- And it's younger people that are going to church. and the
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- Gender breakdown is there's more males going to church than
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- Females. so young women, if you want to find a man, go to
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- Church because young men are going to church. so we keep
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- Praying and we want to go from revival to an awakening. and we
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- Do that by keeping in the word of god and then by obeying the
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- Word of god. so as we pray for revival now, we pray for
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- Awakening so that our society changes and that will bring
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- True reformation here in our nation, but also around the
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- World. michelle, great to see you as always. and what a day,
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- An historic day. and you've been doing great work, of
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- Course, at the jerusalem prayer breakfast as well. sounding the
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- Alarm. michelle, we appreciate everything you're doing. god
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- Bless. we will see you again soon. the one and only michelle
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- Bachman folks. follow her on x and across social media again
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- Folks, what a day as we wrap up here. and for me, look, i've
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- Been covering this covering the region, covering israel for
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- About 23 years. professionally, i've been to israel well over
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- 30 times. i have never quite seen a day like this. the
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- Absolute jubilation among the people of israel, the unity in
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- The nation. look, we've covered it here on tbn over the past
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- Few years, in particular right before the october 7th massacre.
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- There was great division in israel, political upheaval.
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- Then october 7th happens. the nation unites, the nation
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- Rallies around the hostages. now the hostages are home. it
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- Was a day in which political affiliation ideology was pretty
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- Much thrown out the window, and the entire nation was in
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- Celebration mode, and rightly so. as michelle bachman just
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- Said, i see god's hand all over a divine hostage rescue
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- Released from captivity. and now what happens to hamas?
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- There's a few questions that certainly still need to be
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- Answered. this was only phase one. the hostages were released.
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- Excellent, by the way, something to keep in mind.
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- Israel, as part of this deal, had to release thousands of
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- Palestinian prisoners from israeli jails, including
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- Hundreds of hardened palestinian terrorists who were
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- Serving life sentences. so israel not only paid a heavy
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- Price on the battlefield, but paid a heavy price in this deal.
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- But ultimately, the people of israel, the leadership of
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- Israel, prime minister netanyahu said, look, it is
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- Worth it to bring home those 20 living israeli hostages. but
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- Hamas playing games, as we mentioned earlier here in this
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- Special report, there are the remains of 28 deceased israeli
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- Hostages murdered by hamas, and the hamas ghouls hung on to
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- Their remains in gaza. now, hamas released the remains of
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- Only four of those victims handed them over today. but
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- Israel is still awaiting the arrival of the remains of 20
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- Dead israelis from hamas's clutches. hamas has not handed
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- Them back yet. so again, a demonic force, a modern day
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- Nazi death cult like hamas is playing games. not to be
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- Surprised or not surprising there, but at the end of the
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- Day, on october 7th, 2023, folks, two years ago, hard to
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- Believe hamas signed its own death warrant. unbeknownst to
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- Hamas, it was hamas's crowning achievement, or so they thought.
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- And then president trump came along with this peace plan, and
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- It gave hamas two very stark and very clear options. number
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- One, lay down your arms and hand back the hostages and
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- Essentially go into exile. you will never, ever, never have a
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- Part in the governance of gaza ever again. or, number two,
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- Choose to fight on and hold on to the hostages and be utterly
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- Destroyed. that's the choice hamas was facing. and once the
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- Arab and muslim nations got on board with president trump's
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- Plan, in particular turkey and qatar, which have so much
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- Influence over their fellow muslim brotherhood brethren in
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- Hamas, the writing was on the wall for hamas and now gaza. we
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- Shall see what happens. president trump put forward
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- That really interesting plan several months ago about
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- Revitalizing gaza, turning it into kind of a global economic
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- Zone with some waterfront property there on the
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- Mediterranean. it truly is a beautiful strip of land, no
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- Doubt. we'll see what comes next. again, that hinges on
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- Hamas disarming. and that's going to happen. i believe it
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- May take some time, but in the meantime, today again, a day of
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- Jubilation, folks. you just witnessed history. i believe it
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- Was prophetic and biblical history as well. but no doubt
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- You witnessed history. israel is not just any other nation.
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- It was miraculously reborn in 1948 and god is doing, has done
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- And will do mighty things through this tiny nation again
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- The size of not just new jersey, the size of the dallas-fort
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- Worth metroplex. that's how small israel is. yet it has
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- Outsized influence in world affairs, and i believe that
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- Will only increase in the days and years to come. fasten your
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- Seat belts. we're glad to have a front row seat to bring it to
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- You every night here on tbn. thanks for joining us. god
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- Bless you and we'll see you soon.
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