Franklin Graham: Hope For a Broken Nation

September 14, 2025 | 30:32

Franklin Graham and Greg Laurie share hope for a broken nation in light of tragedy.

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Hope For a Broken Nation | Franklin Graham: Hope For a Broken Nation | September 14, 2025

>> i've been asked hundreds of times why god allows tragedy.
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>> our nation is in trouble.
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>> almost daily now, sometimes even hourly. there's a new
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Crisis.
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>> welcome to a special conversation with franklin
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Graham and greg laurie.
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>> it seems like it's just escalating.
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>> i think it's scary to see all these things happen.
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>> also, a timeless message of hope from billy graham.
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>> i've been asked hundreds of times in my life why god allows
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Tragedy and suffering.
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>> plus music from charity gayle and michael w smith.
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>> what is the hope in the middle of all this darkness?
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Every time you turn on the news, it seems like there's some new
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Horrific tragedy. no question about it. our nation is in
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Trouble. and with so much evil, where do you turn? what is the
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Hope in the middle of all of this darkness? this is an
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Important question, and we're going to talk about it. and
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Here with me to do that is my long time friend, pastor greg
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Laurie. greg is pastor of harvest christian fellowship
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Out of riverside, california. he does his harvest crusades
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All across this country. he's been a friend of mine for over
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40 years, and we've served on boards together. we've traveled
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Around the world. and so i'm glad that greg is here today to
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Discuss this. i don't think anyone have a better insight
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Than greg. so, greg, welcome.
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>> franklin. good to be here. yeah. it's crazy what's going
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On in america right now. you know, i believe we're in the
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Last days. and jesus said the signs of the times of the end
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Times would get closer and closer together. and he
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Compared it to a woman having labor pains. and it seems like
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Every time you turn around almost daily now, sometimes
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Even hourly, there's a new crisis. there's a shooting here,
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There's a stabbing there, there's some other horrible
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Thing happening. but of course, what is on our minds right now
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Is, is the horrible murder, even the assassination of a
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Fellow believer, charlie kirk, as he was on a college campus
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In utah. and i think that's especially traumatizing because
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Even though you and i had met and knew charlie, other people
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I think felt as though they knew him because they saw him
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All the time on tik tok. you know, he really had the ear of
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The young generation. franklin, you know, a lot of kids today,
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They get their news on tiktok, they don't watch television.
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And charlie was all over tiktok and they would film these
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Little debates he'd do on campuses. and, you know,
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Charlie, you know, when we say debate, he was a very friendly
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Guy, very intelligent. students would walk up to him, they
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Would insult him to his face and say the worst things to him.
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It just smile and nod and wait till they were done and calmly
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And clearly answer their questions. he, as he talked
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About political issues and what's going on in the country.
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But he was very upfront about his faith. in fact, right
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Before he was shot, he was talking about jesus christ.
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>> he said, i am nothing without jesus. yes. and he's he
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Was a very bold about his his faith, as you said. he he
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Talked about it all the time. yes he did. and so and one of
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The things he he said that i want to talk about jesus. yeah.
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And then he encouraged people to do that this weekend. talk
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About jesus. tell someone about jesus. he was a, i guess, an
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Evangelist as well.
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>> he was asked in an interview, what do you want to be known
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For, like after you die? and he said, i want to be known for my
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Courage, for speaking up for christ. and, you know, i think
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It's we i think we need to mourn the death of this young
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Man. you know, steven was the first martyr of the early
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Church. he died a horrific death, as charlie did, frankly.
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And he god gave steven a glimpse of heaven. and we read
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That after steven died, godly men mourned over him. and even
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Though we know charlie's in heaven, and even though he's,
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We know he's safely in the arms of jesus, there is a place for
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Us as a nation to mourn the loss of this gifted, talented,
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Wonderful young man of god. 31 years old. but then to also
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Reflect on this fact, he packed a lot of life in, you know,
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Corrie ten boom once said, life is not measured by its duration,
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But by its donation. charlie did not live a long life, sadly,
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But he lived a very impactful life and he made a great
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Donation.
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>> he did. and greg, we've seen other horrific violence just
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Recently. the young girl in charlotte, north carolina, who
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A ukrainian, came to this country with her family to try
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To find safety. yes. because of the war in her country. and i
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Do think about that young girl sitting on the train. the light
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Rail is stops and the camera shows her getting on and just
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Sitting down. and the man behind her said, he said he
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Didn't even know who she was. pulls out his knife and stabs
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Her. another thing that surprised me on that no one got
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Up to help her.
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>> and some people were filming it on their phones. and it's
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Unbelievable.
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>> the scripture warns us against those that call evil
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Good and good evil. yeah. and it seems like the nation and
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Many people around the world celebrate evil. they do. and
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Even the assassination attempts. president trump.
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>> two of them.
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>> we've seen that. and all of this, it seems like it's just
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Escalating. it is. and maybe it's because we live in a
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Digital age and we we we're aware of it maybe more today
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Than we were just a few years ago. but i believe, like you
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Say, greg, we're living in the last days and i want to
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Encourage pastors and churches, this is a good time for your
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Church to review the scriptures and to look at prophecy. and
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What does the bible say about the end times and are we ready?
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Are we prepared for what god has in store but our nation is
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In trouble? what would you say, greg, to people who say, if god
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Is really a god of love, he would not let this happen? why
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Does he allow evil things to happen? if he's god, he can
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Stop this.
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>> and i don't know the answer. i mean, why, when i don't know
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The answer to the why question, i pivot back to the what and
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The who question. you know, charlie was a young man. and as
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You know, franklin, our son christopher died at the age of
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33 in an automobile accident. and i, we spent a lot of time
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Asking the why question. and you get to a point where
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There's just no answer to that satisfies you. so it comes down
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To this. we don't live on explanations. we live on
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Promises. we go back to the promises of god. so here's what
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I don't understand. why did this happen? i don't know,
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Here's what i do understand. god loves us. i know god loved
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Charlie. i know that as as joseph said to his brothers who
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Sold him into slavery, you meant this for evil, but god
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Meant it for good to save many people alive. so what happened
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To charlie is a horrible tragedy. we should mourn his
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Death. but at the same time, we should be inspired by his life.
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And we should carry on what he did. that's what he would want.
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I mean, if i'm charlie kirk sitting in heaven, i'd say
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Preach the gospel because you're going to be here before
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You know it, with me in the presence of jesus. so i think,
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You know, as the bible says, work while it is the day for
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The night is coming when no man can work. and so just follow
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His example and we can always answer that why question. but
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We turn to god. and what do we do? we give people the gospel
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And call them to christ, because death will come for all
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Of us. and we don't know when charlie had his hope in christ.
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And so the moment he took his last breath on earth, he took
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His first breath in heaven. and if we trust in christ, we can
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Have that same hope.
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>> i don't feel sorry for charlie, and it sounds maybe a
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Little strange to say that, but he's in god. he's in the
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Presence of god. and now i feel very sorry for his wife. yes.
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And his two little children. this is very, very difficult.
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Very tough.
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>> you know, franklin, your dad once said in response to the
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Question, what has been the greatest surprise of your life?
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He said the brevity of it. we look at charlie young men, 31
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Years old, this young lady from ukraine coming here to our
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Country seeking refuge, losing her life so suddenly. life can
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End quickly. we need to be ready for the afterlife.
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>> life is so, so short. and we're all we're all dying.
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We're just at different stages of dying. yeah. and death is
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Coming for all of us. yes. and the question is, are we ready?
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Are we prepared for it? a lot of people, greg, just don't
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Want to talk about it. they don't want to think about it,
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And they think they're just going to live. you know, the
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Life's just going to keep going. but it doesn't. it comes to an
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End.
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>> i think it's scary to young people right now to see all
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These things happen. jesus said, let not your hearts be troubled,
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Neither let them be afraid. in my father's house are many
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Mansions or dwelling places. if it were not so, i would have
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Told you. i go to prepare a place for you, and if i go to
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Prepare a place for you, i will come again and receive you unto
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Myself. that where i am you may be also. so at a time like this
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It can be scary, but we should not have troubled hearts. we
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Should look to the lord. and you know, i remember a story i
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Heard of a father who was an atheist, and he was wanted his
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Daughter to be an atheist as well. so he wrote down on a
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Piece of paper, god is nowhere. and he said, write that down.
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God is nowhere. and she sounded it out. god is in o.w. she goes,
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Oh, i understand daddy. god is now here. she saw differently.
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And i think this is what we must realize. god is now here.
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Yes. it's a tragedy what happened to charlie kirk. but
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We should follow his example. he's passed his torch on in his
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Short and impactful life. and we should pick that torch up
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And say, okay, let's not be silent, because the only hope
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Is the gospel. because the heart of the problem is the
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Problem of the heart. and only god can change the human heart.
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Only god politics can't change it. technology can't change it.
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Religion even can't change it. it's christ. and so we need to
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Keep proclaiming that message to this world more than ever.
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>> we live in a troubled world. in our country seems to be
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Broken. morally, spiritually, with as a nation, we've turned
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Our back on god. yes, it's a spiritual problem. it's a
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Spiritual problem of the of the heart. yeah. and the bible says
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That we have all sinned and come short of god's glory. all
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Of us are sinners. and so we've failed god. but god loved us
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Enough to send his son, jesus christ to this earth, to take
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Our sins and to die and shed his blood for our sins. the
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Only hope is the lord jesus christ. in tragedy, there are
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Times when people turn to god for a brief moment, and we saw
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That after nine over 11, the nation was looking for why.
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>> and churches were full and.
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>> churches full. yeah. and george w bush asked my father
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To come to washington for a special prayer service. and my
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Father was able to speak to the nation. and so that airspace
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Was still closed. i remember my father had to we had to get
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Special permission from the faa to fly into washington. the
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Whole country was afraid. the country was kind of on a
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Lockdown. and so my father addressed the nation from the
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National cathedral. and so i thought it would be this would
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Be maybe a good time just to hear the words of comfort that
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My father brought to the nation at that time.
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>> we've seen so much on our television, on our heard, on
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Our radio stories that bring tears to our eyes and make us
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All feel a sense of anger. but god can be trusted even when
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Life seems at its darkest. but what are some of the but what
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Are some of the lessons we can learn? first, we're reminded of
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The mystery and reality of evil. i've been asked hundreds of
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Times in my life why god allows tragedy and suffering. i have
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To confess that i really do not know the answer totally, even
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To my own satisfaction. i have to accept by faith that god is
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Sovereign and he's a god of love and mercy and compassion.
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In the midst of suffering. the bible says that god is not the
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Author of evil. it speaks of evil as a mystery. in first
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Thessalonians two seven it talks about the mystery of
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Iniquity. the old testament prophet jeremiah said, the
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Heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. who can
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Understand it? he asked that question, who can understand it?
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And that's one reason we each need god in our lives. the
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Lesson of this event is not only about the mystery of
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Iniquity and evil, but secondly, it's a lesson about our need
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For each other. what an example. new york and washington have
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Been to the world these past few days. none of us will ever
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Forget the pictures of our courageous firefighters and
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Police, many of whom have lost friends and colleagues. a
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Tragedy like this could have torn our country apart, but
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Instead it has united us and we've become a family. so those
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Perpetrators who took this on to tear us apart, it has worked
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The other way. it's backlash. it's backfired. we are more
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United than ever before. i think this was exemplified in a
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Very moving way. when the members of our congress stood
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Shoulder to shoulder the other day and sang god bless america.
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Finally, difficult as it may be for us to see right now, this
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Event can give a message of hope. hope for the present and
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Hope for the future. yes, there is hope. there's hope for the
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Present because i believe the stage has already been set for
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A new spirit in our nation. one of the things we desperately
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Need is a spiritual renewal in this country. we need a
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Spiritual revival in america, and god has told us in his word,
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Time after time that we are to repent of our sins and we're
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Turned to him and he will bless us in a new way. but there's
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Also hope for the future because of god's promises. as a
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Christian, i have hope not just for this life, but for heaven
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And the life to come. and many of those people who died this
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Past week are in heaven right now, and they wouldn't want to
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Come back. it's so glorious and so wonderful. and that's the
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Hope for all of us who put our faith in god. i pray that you
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Will have this hope in your heart. this event reminds us of
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The brevity and the uncertainty of life. we never know when we
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Too will be called into eternity. i doubt if even one
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Of those people who got on those planes or walked into the
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World trade center or the pentagon last tuesday morning,
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Thought it would be the last day of their lives. they didn't
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It didn't occur to them. and that's why each of us needs to
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Face our own spiritual need and commit ourselves to god and his
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Will now. here in this majestic national cathedral we see all
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Around us, symbols of the cross. for the christian, i'm speaking
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For the christian. now the cross tells us that god
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Understands our sin and our suffering, for he took upon
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Himself in the person of jesus christ, our sins and our
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Suffering, and from the cross god declares, i love you. i
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Know the heartaches and the sorrows and the pains that you
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Feel, but i love you. the story does not end with the cross,
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For easter points us beyond the tragedy of the cross to the
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Empty tomb. it tells us that there is hope for eternal life,
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For christ has conquered evil and death and hell. yes, there
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Is hope. i've become an old man now, and i've preached all over
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The world. and the older i get, the more i cling to that hope
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That i started with many years ago and began and proclaimed it
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In many languages to many parts of the world. several years ago,
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At the national prayer breakfast here in washington,
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Ambassador andrew young, who had just gone through the
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Tragic death of his wife, closed his talk with a quote
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From the old hymn, how firm a foundation we all watched in
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Horror as planes crashed into the the steel and glass of the
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World trade center. those majestic towers, built on solid
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Foundations, were examples of the prosperity and creativity
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Of america. when damaged, those buildings eventually plummeted
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To the ground, imploding it upon themselves. yet underneath
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The debris is a foundation that was not destroyed. therein lies
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The truth of that old hymn that andrew young quoted. how firm a
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Foundation. yes, our nation has been attacked, buildings
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Destroyed, lives lost. but now we have a choice whether to
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Implode and disintegrate emotionally and spiritually. as
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A people and a nation, or whether we choose to become
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Stronger through all of this struggle to rebuild on a solid
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Foundation. and i believe that we're in the process of
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Starting to rebuild on that foundation. that foundation is
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Our trust in god. that's what this service is all about. and
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In that faith, we have the strength to endure something as
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Difficult and horrendous as what we've experienced this
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Week. this has been a terrible week with many tears, but also
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Has been a week of great faith. churches all across the country
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Have called prayer meetings, and today is a day that they're
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Celebrating not only in this country, but in many parts of
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The world. and in the words of that familiar hymn that andrew
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Young quoted, it says, fear not, i am with thee. o be not
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Dismayed, for i am thy god, and will give thee aid. i'll
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Strengthen thee, help thee, and cause thee to stand upon my
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Righteous, on thy righteous, omnipotent hand. my prayer
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Today is that we will feel the loving arms of god wrapped
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Around us, and will know in our hearts that he will never
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Forsake us as we trust in him.
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>> in the darkest of times, we can hold on to the promises of
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God. jesus said, in this world you will have trouble, but take
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Heart. i have overcome the world. no matter what trouble
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The world brings to us. jesus is our hope. and i want you to
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Hear a very special song from my friend charity, gayle and
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Michael w smith titled i speak jesus and this is what
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Charlie's life was all about. he spoke jesus. and so i
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Thought this would be a very special song for us today.
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>> i just want speak the name of jesus. over every heart and
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Every mind. cause i know there is peace within your presence.
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I speak jesus.
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>> and i just wanna speak the name of jesus. till every dark
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Addiction starts to break. declaring there is hope and
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There is free. i speak jesus. cause your name is power. your
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Name is healing. your name is life. break every stronghold,
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Shine through the shadows. burn like a father. and i just wanna
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Speak the name of jesus. over fear and all anxiety. to every
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Soul held captive by depression i speak to. cause your name.
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Your name is power. your name is jesus. your name is life.
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And i break every stronghold. shine through the shadows,
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>> and.
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>> burn like a fire.
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>> shout jesus from the mountains. jesus in the streets.
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Jesus in the darkness. over every enemy. jesus. for my
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Family i speak the holy name of jesus.
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>> and all the. jesus from the mountains. jesus in the streets.
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Jesus in the darkness over every enemy. jesus for my
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Family i speak the holy name. jesus, jesus. your name is.
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Your name is power. your name is healer. and your name is
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Life. can we declare it right now? break every stronghold.
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Shine through the shadows, burn up a fire. sing your name. your
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Name is high. your name is jesus. your name is love. break
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Every stronghold. shine through the shadows. burn like the fire.
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And i just wanna speak the name of jesus. over every heart and
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Every mind. cause i know there is peace within your presence.
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I speak to.
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>> where is jesus in your life? do you know him? have you put
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Your faith in him? have you put your trust in him? and if your
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Life came to a sudden end like charlie's did, are you ready to
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Stand before god? are you ready to go into his presence? and if
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You say, well, you know, i think so. no, i'm not talking
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About thinking. do you know it? are you sure? are you confident?
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You see, the bible says that we have to to repent, to turn from
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Our sins. and we have to believe on the name of the lord
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Jesus christ and to trust him as our savior. and have you
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Ever invited christ into your heart, into your life? have you
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Ever told god, i'm i'm a sinner and i'm sorry? and if you
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Haven't done it, you can do that right now. just wherever
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You are. just say, i want to be like charlie. i want to be sure
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That i'm ready to stand before god. and i want to confess that
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I am a sinner. i'm. i want to repent. i want to turn from
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Those sins of mine, and i want to put my faith and trust in
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Jesus christ. and if you've never invited christ into your
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Heart, into your life, you can just pray this prayer with me
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Right now. just say, god, i'm a sinner. i'm sorry. i want to
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Turn from my sins. and i believe that jesus is your son,
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That he took my sins to the cross and he died and shed his
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Blood for me. and that you've raised him to life. and i'd
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Like to invite him to come into my heart. and i want to trust
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Him right now, and i want to follow him as my lord from this
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Day forward forever. amen.
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>> if you just prayed with franklin, or if you have
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Questions about a relationship with jesus christ, contact us.
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We want to help you grow in your relationship with jesus
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Christ. connect with us today.
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Franklin Graham: Hope For a Broken Nation

September 14, 2025 | 30:32

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