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Robert Jeffress - Will We Know One Another In Heaven?

February 20, 2026 | 27:29

Robert Jeffress - Will We Know One Another In Heaven?
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Dr. Robert Jeffress | Robert Jeffress - Will We Know One Another In Heaven? | February 20, 2026
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Male announcer: from the pulpit of the first baptist church
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  • Of dallas, texas, this is "pathway to victory"
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  • With dr. robert jeffress.
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  • Dr. robert jeffress: hi, i'm robert jeffress and welcome
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  • Again to "pathway to victory."
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  • Some of life's greatest joys are the relationships we cultivate
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  • Throughout our lifetime, whether it's with a sibling,
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  • A spouse, a parent, or a friend, the people around us give us a
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  • Sense of wholeness and well-being,
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  • Which is why many christians wonder if we'll still know one
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  • Another when we get to heaven, or if those memories will have
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  • Been erased from our minds.
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  • Well, stay with us because we're answering the question
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  • "will we know one another in heaven?"
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  • On today's edition of "pathway to victory."
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Announcer: when loss leaves you searching for hope, turn your
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  • Eyes toward heaven.
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  • In "encouragement from a place called heaven," dr. robert
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  • Jeffress offers comfort drawn from god's promises about
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  • Eternity, not the myths and misconceptions tv and movies
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  • Tell us, but what scripture truly reveals.
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  • Whether you're grieving a loved one, facing illness, or walking
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  • Alongside someone in pain, this beautiful hardcover book
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  • Provides the encouragement you need.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Jeffress: growing old is not for the faint of heart.
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  • With age come aches, ailments, and sometimes
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  • A few extra pounds.
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  • The late humorist erma bombeck once wrote,
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  • "i'm not telling you what i weigh,
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  • But when i measure my girth and then step on the scales,
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  • I ought to be a 90-foot redwood."
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  • Unfortunately, most people don't age gracefully.
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  • Along with a few extra pounds come hearing loss,
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  • Fading eyesight, aches, creaking joints.
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  • You know, getting older reminds me a lot of what jesus said to
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  • Peter in john 21 verse 18, he said,
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  • "i tell you the truth, when you were young,
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  • You were able to do as you liked.
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  • You dressed yourself and went wherever you wanted to go.
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  • But when you were old, you will stretch out your hands and
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  • Others will dress you and take you where you don't want to go."
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  • Anybody identify with that already?
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  • You know, part of growing older also means not always
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  • Recognizing people.
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  • Have you ever had the experience of going to a high school
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  • Or a college reunion?
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  • You look at people, you don't recognize them.
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  • If it wasn't for their name tag, you wouldn't know who they are.
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  • Even worse, they don't recognize you.
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  • And perhaps worse of all, have you ever stood in the mirror and
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  • Looked at yourself and wondered who is that person?
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  • Which all brings up an interesting question,
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  • And that is when we get to heaven,
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  • What will our bodies be like?
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  • Will we know one another?
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  • Will other people know us?
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  • Well, that's what we're going to talk about today.
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  • In our series "a place called heaven," we're answering ten
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  • Of the most frequently asked questions in heaven.
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  • And today we're going to answer the question:
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  • Will we know one another in heaven?
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  • Now to answer that question, we first of all need to understand
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  • Something about jesus's promise of a resurrection body.
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  • In heaven, the bible is very clear,
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  • We're not just going to be some spirit floating around,
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  • We are going to have a physical body.
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  • Now that shouldn't be a surprise when you look at god's original
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  • Plan for us.
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  • God's original design for us was both a spirit and a body.
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  • Look at genesis 2:7 about god's original creation: "then the
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  • Lord god formed man from the dust from the ground,
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  • And breathed into his nostrils the breath of life,
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  • And man became a living being."
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  • We were made from dust, something real.
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  • God breathed life into us, and we became a living being.
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  • Without a physical body, adam and eve never would have been a
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  • Being, and without the spirit, the breath of god,
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  • They never would have become living beings.
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  • God created us originally body and spirit and that's why it
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  • Shouldn't it be no surprise that in eternity we will always exist
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  • In a body, as well as be spirit.
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  • God's future plan for us includes
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  • A physical resurrection.
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  • Whenever we look at the bible, we find that there are actually
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  • Two resurrections that will occur.
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  • Did you know, it's not only christians who will receive
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  • A new body?
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  • Unbelievers will also receive a new body for eternity.
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  • A believer's body is necessary so that we can experience god's
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  • Unending blessing.
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  • Unbeliever's must receive a body so that they can experience
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  • God's everlasting judgment.
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  • But everybody is going to be raised from the dead.
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  • Everyone is going to have a resurrected body.
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  • The bible talks about two resurrections.
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  • The resurrection for believers for christians
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  • Is called the first resurrection.
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  • In revelation 20 verse 6, john says,
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  • "blessed and holy is the one who has part
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  • In the first resurrection.
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  • Over these, the second death has no power,
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  • But they will be priests of god and of christ and will reign
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  • With him for a thousand years."
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  • What is the first resurrection?
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  • The first resurrection, now get this,
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  • Doesn't refer to a point in time.
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  • Instead, the first resurrection refers to that group of people,
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  • Believers, who will receive a new body to experience
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  • God's blessing.
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  • Not every believer will receive his new body at the same point
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  • In history, paul makes that clear in 1 corinthians 15:22
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  • And 23: "for as in adam all die, so also in christ all will be
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  • Made alive, but each in his own order."
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  • Some people, some of us, will receive our resurrection body at
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  • The rapture.
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  • At the rapture, remember the lord himself will descend from
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  • Heaven, and the dead in christ, that is,
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  • Those believers who have already died since the time of
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  • Pentecost, they will be raised, and then we who are alive and
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  • Remain shall be caught up together to meet the lord in the
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  • Air, 1 corinthians 15:52 and 53 say at that time we will be
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  • Changed and receive our new bodies.
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  • But then there will be other people who will receive their
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  • New bodies at the second coming of jesus,
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  • Seven years later, after the tribulation.
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  • And then there's another group of believers who are saved
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  • During the millennium, who will receive their new bodies at the
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  • End of the thousand-year reign of christ.
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  • But all of those people are part of the first resurrection,
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  • The resurrection of the righteous.
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  • In daniel 12:2 daniel says, "many of those who sleep in the
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  • Dust of the ground will awake, believers to everlasting life,
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  • But others, the unbelievers,
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  • To disgrace and everlasting contempt."
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  • The first resurrection is the resurrection of the saved.
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  • But there is a second resurrection and that is the
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  • Resurrection of all the unsaved.
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  • Right now, when an unbeliever dies,
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  • He goes to hades, the temporary place of the unsaved.
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  • But one day they're going to be raised and unlike the first
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  • Resurrection, that occurs in stages over a period of time,
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  • The second resurrection, the resurrection of unbelievers.
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  • All occurs at one point in history,
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  • Immediately before the great white throne judgment.
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  • We find it described in revelation 20 verses 13 and 14
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  • The resurrection of the unsaved: "and the sea gave up the dead
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  • Which were in it and death and hades gave up the dead,
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  • Which were in them, and they were judged everyone according
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  • To their deeds."
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  • Verse 14 says, "and death and hades were thrown into the lake
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  • Of fire, gehenna.
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  • This is the second death, the lake of fire."
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  • The two resurrections, everyone, believers and unbelievers,
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  • Will receive a new body for all eternity.
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  • Now that raises an interesting question.
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  • How is it possible that people whose bodies have died could
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  • Have bodies that ever come to life again?
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  • How can something that has died ever come to life again?
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  • And actually, the corinthian christians had
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  • That very same question.
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  • "paul, we believe in a spiritual resurrection,
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  • But a literal physical resurrection,
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  • How can that be?"
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  • In 1 corinthians 15:35, paul anticipated that question,
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  • He said, "but someone will say, 'how are the dead raised and
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  • What kind of body do they come?'"
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  • What kind of body do they have?
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  • Have you ever thought about that?
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  • How is it that the dead are raised?
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  • How is a resurrection at all possible?
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  • Well, paul answers that question by using an analogy,
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  • And that is of planting and harvesting.
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  • Look at 1 corinthians 15 verses 36 to 38,
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  • Where paul explains how a resurrection happens.
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  • "that which you sow does not come to life unless it dies,
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  • And that which you sow, you do not sow the body,
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  • Which is to be, but a bare grain,
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  • Perhaps of wheat or something else.
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  • But god gives it a body just as he wished,
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  • And to each of the seeds, a body of its own."
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  • Think of planting and harvesting,
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  • What's involved in that?
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  • Well, first of all, when you plant a seed,
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  • That means the seed actually dies.
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  • If you plant a watermelon seed in the ground,
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  • That seed dies before it ever comes to life.
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  • And so it is with the resurrection.
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  • When we die, that death is necessary for there to be a
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  • Future harvest.
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  • If you don't plant a seed and the seed dies,
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  • Never will a harvest come months later.
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  • It's the same way with us, paul says.
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  • Death is not only inevitable, it is necessary,
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  • It has to happen for us to ever inherit god's kingdom.
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  • 1 corinthians 15:36: "that which you sow does not come to life
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  • Unless it dies."
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  • And he explains why in verse 50, "for flesh and blood cannot
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  • Inherit the kingdom of god, nor does the perishable inherit that
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  • Which is imperishable."
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  • And that leads to the second part of the process,
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  • The reaping of the harvest.
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  • Notice something about the relationship between the
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  • Planting and the harvest.
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  • First of all, the harvest is superior to the seed.
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  • What is harvested is always superior to the seed.
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  • For example, let's just imagine it's a hot day here in dallas,
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  • Texas, in august, 110 degrees in the shade.
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  • You've been out working in the yard.
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  • You come in and you need some refreshment
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  • And you've got a choice.
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  • You can either have a cold slice of watermelon,
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  • Or you can eat a watermelon seed.
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  • Now which would you choose?
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  • The watermelon or the watermelon seed?
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  • I think everybody would choose the slice of watermelon because
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  • The harvest is always superior to the seed.
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  • It's the same way with the resurrection.
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  • What is harvested at the resurrection,
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  • Our new body, is vastly superior to that which is planted.
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  • You know it's important to understand that at the
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  • Resurrection it's not our old bodies that we are going
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  • To carry into heaven.
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  • And aren't you grateful for that?
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  • Aren't you grateful god doesn't just resurrect your old body and
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  • You know, put some duct tape around it and some glue and try
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  • To hope it holds together for all eternity?
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  • No, it's not our old bodies, our old bodies are raised but then
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  • They are completely renovated in a moment,
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  • In the twinkling of an eye, and what we receive is much superior
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  • To what was planted.
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  • But secondly, the harvest is also similar to the seed.
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  • It's superior to the seed, but it's similar to the seed.
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  • I mean, you don't plant a watermelon seed and harvest
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  • A kumquat, okay?
  • 00:12:55.564 --> 00:12:57.499
  • If you plant a watermelon seed, guess what?
  • 00:12:57.499 --> 00:12:59.835
  • You get a watermelon and it's the same way with us.
  • 00:12:59.835 --> 00:13:02.938
  • When our bodies die, it's not someone else who is resurrected.
  • 00:13:02.938 --> 00:13:08.410
  • We don't get a body that is totally dissimilar
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  • To what we were.
  • 00:13:10.880 --> 00:13:12.648
  • Our new bodies are going to resemble our old bodies.
  • 00:13:12.648 --> 00:13:15.684
  • We'll talk about that more in just a moment.
  • 00:13:15.684 --> 00:13:18.153
  • But if you want a good idea of what your resurrection body is
  • 00:13:18.153 --> 00:13:21.657
  • Going to be like for eternity, the best place to look is to
  • 00:13:21.657 --> 00:13:24.927
  • Look at jesus himself.
  • 00:13:24.927 --> 00:13:27.396
  • Jesus is the prototype of our resurrection body.
  • 00:13:27.396 --> 00:13:31.500
  • In 1 john 3:2 the apostle writes,
  • 00:13:31.500 --> 00:13:35.104
  • "beloved, now we are children of god,
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  • And it has not appeared as yet what we will be.
  • 00:13:37.773 --> 00:13:41.977
  • But we know that when he, jesus, appears,
  • 00:13:41.977 --> 00:13:45.281
  • We shall be like him, because we will see him just as he is."
  • 00:13:45.281 --> 00:13:51.220
  • The best answer to what we're going to be like in our new
  • 00:13:51.220 --> 00:13:54.390
  • Bodies is to look at the resurrection body of jesus.
  • 00:13:54.390 --> 00:13:57.259
  • Remember, after jesus was raised from the dead,
  • 00:13:57.259 --> 00:13:59.461
  • He spent 40 days on the earth ministering to people.
  • 00:13:59.461 --> 00:14:02.598
  • So, let's ask the question, first of all,
  • 00:14:02.598 --> 00:14:05.167
  • Was jesus's resurrection spiritual or physical?
  • 00:14:05.167 --> 00:14:09.305
  • There were some in the corinthian church who said,
  • 00:14:09.305 --> 00:14:11.440
  • "oh, we believe jesus was raised from the dead,
  • 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.776
  • But we believe it was a spiritual resurrection.
  • 00:14:13.776 --> 00:14:17.246
  • We can't believe that he was literally,
  • 00:14:17.246 --> 00:14:19.548
  • Physically, raised from the dead."
  • 00:14:19.548 --> 00:14:21.650
  • And so in verses 3 and 4, 1 corinthians 15,
  • 00:14:21.650 --> 00:14:24.219
  • Paul makes it clear that the physical resurrection of jesus
  • 00:14:24.219 --> 00:14:28.157
  • Is the very essence of the gospel message.
  • 00:14:28.157 --> 00:14:30.759
  • Paul wrote, "for i delivered to you as of first importance what
  • 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:34.797
  • I also received, that christ died for our sins according to
  • 00:14:34.797 --> 00:14:39.268
  • The scriptures, and that he was buried,
  • 00:14:39.268 --> 00:14:41.570
  • And that he was raised on the third day according
  • 00:14:41.570 --> 00:14:44.573
  • To the scriptures."
  • 00:14:44.573 --> 00:14:46.108
  • It was a physical resurrection. how do i know that?
  • 00:14:46.108 --> 00:14:49.945
  • Well, just look at what happened to jesus over those 40 days he
  • 00:14:49.945 --> 00:14:53.882
  • Was on the earth in his resurrection body.
  • 00:14:53.882 --> 00:14:56.185
  • Seventeen different times he conversed with his disciples.
  • 00:14:56.185 --> 00:15:00.789
  • On three occasions he ate with his disciples.
  • 00:15:00.789 --> 00:15:04.526
  • On two different occasions, he allowed his disciples
  • 00:15:04.526 --> 00:15:07.696
  • To touch him.
  • 00:15:07.696 --> 00:15:10.099
  • What was jesus's resurrection body like?
  • 00:15:10.099 --> 00:15:13.802
  • First of all, it was superior to his earthly body.
  • 00:15:13.802 --> 00:15:18.073
  • Now jesus was without sin in his earthly body,
  • 00:15:18.073 --> 00:15:21.443
  • But he had limitations just like you and i have
  • 00:15:21.443 --> 00:15:23.712
  • In our earthly bodies.
  • 00:15:23.712 --> 00:15:25.047
  • But in his resurrection body, he was vastly superior.
  • 00:15:25.047 --> 00:15:27.883
  • For example, on several occasions jesus was able to
  • 00:15:27.883 --> 00:15:30.853
  • Materialize at a place at will.
  • 00:15:30.853 --> 00:15:33.789
  • He was able to come through a door that was locked.
  • 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:36.892
  • He had abilities in his new body that he didn't have in his
  • 00:15:36.892 --> 00:15:40.229
  • Original body.
  • 00:15:40.229 --> 00:15:42.064
  • But secondly, jesus's body was also similar
  • 00:15:42.064 --> 00:15:45.734
  • To his earthly body.
  • 00:15:45.734 --> 00:15:47.836
  • If you look at the accounts of those 40 days jesus spent on
  • 00:15:47.836 --> 00:15:51.206
  • Earth, you will discover that those who knew him best
  • 00:15:51.206 --> 00:15:56.445
  • Eventually recognized him.
  • 00:15:56.445 --> 00:15:59.648
  • What is it that caused them to recognize jesus?
  • 00:15:59.648 --> 00:16:04.820
  • There were some similarities between jesus's earthly body
  • 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:08.657
  • And his new body.
  • 00:16:08.657 --> 00:16:10.292
  • Perhaps it was his stature.
  • 00:16:10.292 --> 00:16:12.694
  • Perhaps it was the color of his eyes or his hair.
  • 00:16:12.694 --> 00:16:16.131
  • But something about jesus was recognizable.
  • 00:16:16.131 --> 00:16:19.868
  • Well, that leads to the question what will our bodies
  • 00:16:19.868 --> 00:16:23.539
  • Be like in heaven?
  • 00:16:23.539 --> 00:16:25.207
  • Remember john said we shall be like him.
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  • Colossians 1:18 says that jesus was the first born
  • 00:16:28.610 --> 00:16:34.283
  • From the dead.
  • 00:16:34.283 --> 00:16:35.684
  • That word first born is the greek word prototokos,
  • 00:16:35.684 --> 00:16:40.089
  • Prototokos.
  • 00:16:40.089 --> 00:16:42.491
  • And you know what that word means: he is the prototokos,
  • 00:16:42.491 --> 00:16:46.128
  • The prototype of those, all of us who will be raised
  • 00:16:46.128 --> 00:16:49.498
  • From the dead.
  • 00:16:49.498 --> 00:16:51.066
  • So, knowing that that is true, we can gather several important
  • 00:16:51.066 --> 00:16:53.936
  • Facts about our new bodies in heaven.
  • 00:16:53.936 --> 00:16:56.505
  • First of all, our bodies will be physical.
  • 00:16:56.505 --> 00:17:00.175
  • Just as jesus had a physical body, so will we.
  • 00:17:00.175 --> 00:17:04.713
  • Now, our new bodies will be vastly different
  • 00:17:04.713 --> 00:17:08.750
  • Than our original bodies.
  • 00:17:08.750 --> 00:17:10.486
  • Make no mistake about it, in verses 39 to 41
  • 00:17:10.486 --> 00:17:13.088
  • Of 1 corinthians 15, paul said, "all flesh is not the same
  • 00:17:13.088 --> 00:17:17.392
  • Flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of
  • 00:17:17.392 --> 00:17:21.897
  • Beasts, and another flesh of birds,
  • 00:17:21.897 --> 00:17:24.266
  • And another flesh of fish.
  • 00:17:24.266 --> 00:17:26.435
  • There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies,
  • 00:17:26.435 --> 00:17:28.937
  • But the glory of the heavenly is one,
  • 00:17:28.937 --> 00:17:31.240
  • And the glory of the earthly is another.
  • 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.342
  • There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon,
  • 00:17:33.342 --> 00:17:35.878
  • Another glory of the stars,
  • 00:17:35.878 --> 00:17:37.613
  • For stars differ from star in their glory.
  • 00:17:37.613 --> 00:17:39.948
  • So also is the resurrection of the dead.
  • 00:17:39.948 --> 00:17:42.551
  • It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body,
  • 00:17:42.551 --> 00:17:47.189
  • It is sown in dishonor, but it is raised in glory,
  • 00:17:47.189 --> 00:17:50.225
  • It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.
  • 00:17:50.225 --> 00:17:53.095
  • It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
  • 00:17:53.095 --> 00:17:57.199
  • If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body."
  • 00:17:57.199 --> 00:18:01.703
  • Now notice the word body, soma, in greek,
  • 00:18:01.703 --> 00:18:04.339
  • Is repeated over and over again.
  • 00:18:04.339 --> 00:18:06.308
  • That refers to a physical body.
  • 00:18:06.308 --> 00:18:08.343
  • It's paul's way of saying, "don't miss this,
  • 00:18:08.343 --> 00:18:10.913
  • We are a body, but on earth in our current state
  • 00:18:10.913 --> 00:18:14.983
  • We are a natural body.
  • 00:18:14.983 --> 00:18:16.785
  • But in the new heaven and new earth,
  • 00:18:16.785 --> 00:18:18.754
  • We will be spiritual, but we will still be a body."
  • 00:18:18.754 --> 00:18:22.558
  • Let me summarize for you, if i can,
  • 00:18:22.558 --> 00:18:24.393
  • The differences between our earthly body and our
  • 00:18:24.393 --> 00:18:27.963
  • Heavenly body for the new heaven and new earth.
  • 00:18:27.963 --> 00:18:30.532
  • First of all, our earthly bodies decay,
  • 00:18:30.532 --> 00:18:34.336
  • Our heavenly bodies will endure.
  • 00:18:34.336 --> 00:18:38.740
  • Secondly, our earthly bodies are infected with sin.
  • 00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:42.811
  • Our heavenly bodies will be free of sin.
  • 00:18:42.811 --> 00:18:46.982
  • Thirdly, our earthly bodies are weak.
  • 00:18:46.982 --> 00:18:50.085
  • Our heavenly bodies will be powerful.
  • 00:18:50.085 --> 00:18:52.788
  • And finally, our earthly bodies are for the old earth.
  • 00:18:52.788 --> 00:18:56.391
  • Our heavenly bodies are for the new earth.
  • 00:18:56.391 --> 00:19:00.662
  • Secondly, our bodies will not only be physical,
  • 00:19:00.662 --> 00:19:05.033
  • They will also be perfect.
  • 00:19:05.033 --> 00:19:07.302
  • They will be perfect.
  • 00:19:07.302 --> 00:19:09.137
  • No more cancer, no more heart attacks.
  • 00:19:09.137 --> 00:19:11.940
  • No more strokes, no more high blood pressure.
  • 00:19:11.940 --> 00:19:15.477
  • Revelation 21 verse 4 says,
  • 00:19:15.477 --> 00:19:17.579
  • "the first things will have passed away."
  • 00:19:17.579 --> 00:19:19.848
  • Revelation 22, verse 3,
  • 00:19:19.848 --> 00:19:21.783
  • "and there shall no longer be any curse."
  • 00:19:21.783 --> 00:19:26.688
  • Many of you know joni eareckson, my friend,
  • 00:19:26.688 --> 00:19:29.958
  • A great woman of god, at age 17 through a diving accident,
  • 00:19:29.958 --> 00:19:34.263
  • Became a quadriplegic.
  • 00:19:34.263 --> 00:19:36.665
  • Listen to what joni has to say about the promise of a new body.
  • 00:19:36.665 --> 00:19:41.270
  • "can you imagine the hope this gives someone like me with a
  • 00:19:41.270 --> 00:19:45.707
  • Spinal cord injury, or someone who has cerebral palsy,
  • 00:19:45.707 --> 00:19:51.079
  • Brain injured, or has multiple sclerosis?
  • 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.349
  • Imagine the hope this gives someone
  • 00:19:54.349 --> 00:19:56.818
  • Who is a manic depressive.
  • 00:19:56.818 --> 00:19:59.388
  • No other religion, no other philosophy promises new bodies,
  • 00:19:59.388 --> 00:20:03.925
  • Hearts, and minds.
  • 00:20:03.925 --> 00:20:05.727
  • Only in the gospel of christ do hurting people find such
  • 00:20:05.727 --> 00:20:10.499
  • Incredible hope."
  • 00:20:10.499 --> 00:20:12.067
  • Isn't that great?
  • 00:20:12.067 --> 00:20:13.402
  • That's the promise we have, our bodies will be perfect.
  • 00:20:13.402 --> 00:20:17.306
  • They'll be physical, they'll be perfect.
  • 00:20:17.306 --> 00:20:19.641
  • Thirdly, our bodies will be personal.
  • 00:20:19.641 --> 00:20:24.146
  • What i mean by that is, when you are raised from the dead,
  • 00:20:24.146 --> 00:20:28.417
  • You don't become somebody else, you are still you.
  • 00:20:28.417 --> 00:20:33.221
  • Think of it this way.
  • 00:20:33.221 --> 00:20:34.556
  • I realize the analogy's lacking, but think of it this way.
  • 00:20:34.556 --> 00:20:38.393
  • You know, most all of us use a computer, and that computer
  • 00:20:38.393 --> 00:20:42.164
  • Is run on a certain program, a software package, a program.
  • 00:20:42.164 --> 00:20:47.035
  • Occasionally we get notices to upgrade that program,
  • 00:20:47.035 --> 00:20:50.472
  • And we do so.
  • 00:20:50.472 --> 00:20:51.907
  • We don't throw away the whole program, we upgrade the program
  • 00:20:51.907 --> 00:20:56.044
  • To a better state.
  • 00:20:56.044 --> 00:20:57.913
  • And in the same way, when we are raised from the dead, it is
  • 00:20:57.913 --> 00:21:01.783
  • A renovation, it is a recreation,
  • 00:21:01.783 --> 00:21:04.286
  • But we still are us at the core.
  • 00:21:04.286 --> 00:21:08.390
  • How do i know that?
  • 00:21:08.390 --> 00:21:09.858
  • Well, luke 24:39, when jesus appeared to his disciples,
  • 00:21:09.858 --> 00:21:13.462
  • Listen to what he said in his new resurrection body.
  • 00:21:13.462 --> 00:21:15.864
  • "see my hands and my feet that it is i myself."
  • 00:21:15.864 --> 00:21:22.704
  • It is i, it's not somebody else, it is i.
  • 00:21:22.704 --> 00:21:25.841
  • It means in heaven we won't be someone else.
  • 00:21:25.841 --> 00:21:30.512
  • You will be you.
  • 00:21:30.512 --> 00:21:32.547
  • And the relationships, by the way, you have here on earth
  • 00:21:32.547 --> 00:21:36.084
  • With christians will continue in heaven.
  • 00:21:36.084 --> 00:21:38.754
  • You'll know other people, they will know you and you will enjoy
  • 00:21:38.754 --> 00:21:42.557
  • Perfect fellowship, untainted by sin of any kind.
  • 00:21:42.557 --> 00:21:47.095
  • Ron rhodes, theologian, says it this way.
  • 00:21:47.095 --> 00:21:50.332
  • "our eternal reunion with christian loved ones and friends
  • 00:21:50.332 --> 00:21:54.269
  • Will be ceaselessly glorious."
  • 00:21:54.269 --> 00:21:57.539
  • Keep in mind that we will no longer have sin natures.
  • 00:21:57.539 --> 00:22:00.909
  • There will be no fights among loved ones.
  • 00:22:00.909 --> 00:22:03.545
  • There won't be any resentment or envy or jealousy.
  • 00:22:03.545 --> 00:22:07.282
  • There won't be any one-upmanship or rivalries.
  • 00:22:07.282 --> 00:22:11.019
  • There won't be any cross words or misunderstandings
  • 00:22:11.019 --> 00:22:14.523
  • Or selfishness.
  • 00:22:14.523 --> 00:22:16.391
  • Our relationships in heaven will be truly wonderful
  • 00:22:16.391 --> 00:22:20.662
  • And utterly satisfying."
  • 00:22:20.662 --> 00:22:24.633
  • Now that's something to look forward to,
  • 00:22:24.633 --> 00:22:27.269
  • In that place called heaven.
  • 00:22:27.269 --> 00:22:30.605
  • Jeffress: god is preparing a place in heaven right now for
  • 00:22:34.810 --> 00:22:38.246
  • Those who trust in christ, and when we get there,
  • 00:22:38.246 --> 00:22:41.616
  • The joy that will be ours is beyond our wildest imagination.
  • 00:22:41.616 --> 00:22:46.655
  • Now, as we conclude another half hour of bible study together,
  • 00:22:46.655 --> 00:22:50.625
  • Let me share an encouraging note i received from mark in montana.
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  • Well, thank you, mark, for that kind note and thank you,
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  • Jeffress: as if we didn't have enough to look forward to,
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  • The bible's description of our heavenly body
  • 00:25:11.666 --> 00:25:14.169
  • Is truly wonderful.
  • 00:25:14.169 --> 00:25:16.304
  • All of our aches, pains, and disease,
  • 00:25:16.304 --> 00:25:18.673
  • Both in the body and in the mind,
  • 00:25:18.673 --> 00:25:21.042
  • Will be erased, never to return again.
  • 00:25:21.042 --> 00:25:24.446
  • Plus, the actual features of heaven will be far greater than
  • 00:25:24.446 --> 00:25:27.983
  • Anyone can imagine here on earth.
  • 00:25:27.983 --> 00:25:30.685
  • Now, many christians believe that heaven will be exactly the
  • 00:25:30.685 --> 00:25:33.955
  • Same for everyone, but as we'll discover next time,
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  • That's not the case.
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  • In fact, the kind of heaven we experience in the next life will
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  • Largely be determined by how we conduct ourselves today.
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  • Stay tuned for a preview of what's coming up next in our
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  • Series, "a place called heaven."
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  • Jeffress: the fact is, if we have placed our faith in jesus
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  • Christ, we are all going to make it into the spiritual end zone,
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  • Into heaven.
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  • But some will make it there only after spending some time running
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  • In the wrong direction.
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  • Some who make it into heaven will be celebrated by god for
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  • The way they played the game.
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  • Announcer: set your dvr and join us next time for part one
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  • Of the message "will heaven be the same for everyone?"
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  • Here on "pathway to victory."
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  • Announcer: experience a journey that will refresh your spirit
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  • And renew your faith on the pathway to victory cruise to
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  • Alaska, june 13-20, 2026.
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  • Jeffress: sail aboard holland america's luxurious koningsdam
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  • Through british columbia's beautiful inside passage.
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  • From the pristine waters of glacier bay to the charming
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  • Frontier towns of juneau, ketchikan, and skagway, you'll
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  • Witness god's handiwork on full display.
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  • Announcer: imagine standing on deck surrounded by towering
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  • Glaciers and snowcapped mountains while enjoying
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  • Powerful bible teaching from dr. jeffress.
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  • Then enjoy spirit-lifting worship led by michael o'brien
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  • And share plenty of laughter with dennis swanberg, america's
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  • Minister of encouragement.
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  • Jeffress: this is more than just a vacation.
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  • It's a sacred pause to reconnect with the lord.
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  • Announcer: to reserve your cabin on the 2026 pathway to victory
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  • Cruise to alaska, call ... or visit ptv.org.
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