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July 17, 2026 | 23:29

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: The State of the Iranian Axis | Stakelbeck Tonight | July 17, 2026
  • Welcome to
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  • Stakelbeck tonight i'm erick stakelbeck and the world's
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  • Most chaotic, strategic and prophetic region
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  • Is being reshaped before our very eyes.
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  • The middle east has gone through
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  • Seismic changes since the october 7th massacre,
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  • And with iran's regime on the ropes,
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  • We could be on the verge of a new day for the region.
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  • But there's still much
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  • Work to be done and new threats are emerging.
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  • So what does it all mean for america, israel and you?
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  • Joining me now from jerusalem to break it down is mati
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  • Shoshani, co-host of boots on the ground,
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  • Seen right here on tbn every thursday night.
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  • Great to see you, my friend,
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  • And always great to have you with us, mati.
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  • Hey. let's start. big picture.
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  • We've got a lot of ground to cover.
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  • Let's start big picture where we are at.
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  • It's hard to believe,
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  • But the october 7th massacre was now nearly three years ago.
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  • And in many ways, mati, it seems that iran and its axis
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  • Signed its own death warrant on that day.
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  • How do you see it right now?
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  • Iran in trouble. obviously, the u.s.
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  • Restarting serious military action over the past few days.
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  • How do you see the landscape of the region right now
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  • And the state of the iranian axis?
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  • First of all, erick, it's
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  • Always great to be with you and to answer.
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  • It's a really good question where you're asking,
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  • Which is where are we in this process?
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  • I think many people had this expectation
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  • In their minds, maybe in their hearts,
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  • That it's going to be a bang and over kind of operation,
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  • You know, it's going to fall and it's going to happen.
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  • Maybe not overnight, but as close as possible to that.
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  • But if we zoom out for just a second and talk
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  • About what's happened in the last,
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  • Well, let's say since february, but definitely
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  • If you go back to october 7th, the iranian ideology,
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  • The iranian doctrine when it comes to warfare,
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  • Was built around the ring of fire doctrine
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  • Surrounding israel and other u.s. allies.
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  • It's called u.s.
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  • Forces in this region
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  • Surrounding them by terrorists and proxy groups.
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  • That's the houthis in yemen, that's in lebanon, hamas
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  • In gaza,
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  • Islamic jihad and hamas in judea and samaria, and several
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  • Other pockets of terrorism globally and regionally.
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  • And most of those
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  • Proxies are gone or diminished to a great degree.
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  • Much of their military power has been diminished
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  • To a great degree.
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  • Much of their leadership
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  • Has been diminished to no longer existent.
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  • And the list goes on and on.
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  • If you're looking at this from a percentage perspective,
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  • The damage to the iranian regime is very, very significant.
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  • And the challenge here, as people looking at this
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  • And trying to get an answer to when is this going to end?
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  • Where are we on a scale from one to regime change?
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  • You never really know when the tipping point is coming.
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  • That's really the challenge in history,
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  • The challenge in geopolitics.
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  • I will say this.
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  • Israel and the united states have dealt the iranian regime
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  • A very substantial series of blows, setting back
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  • The military capability,
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  • Their leadership, their command and control
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  • Systems, ballistic missiles, their financial mechanisms
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  • Behind them, much of what they do.
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  • A lot of it is taking a substantial beating.
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  • But we're not over yet.
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  • And that's really the challenge.
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  • We're in the in-between season.
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  • We're we're waiting to see what iran does next,
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  • Trying to reach an agreement with an entity
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  • That has no desire to reach an agreement, and
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  • Wanting, ultimately to safeguard the passage of ships
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  • Through the strait of hormuz, and, of course, both for israel
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  • And the us allies in the gulf states.
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  • Yeah, mati great breakdown.
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  • Is it your sense that the iranian regime
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  • Would essentially like to string these talks along?
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  • The talks
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  • Pretty much are off the table right now
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  • As military action restarts, but the regime would like to
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  • String the us along essentially
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  • Until president trump leaves office january 2029.
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  • And then the regime is back to its old tricks.
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  • Is that your sense? it seems to be their m.o.
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  • Over the past 47 years.
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  • Yeah, i think that's an accurate depiction, really.
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  • We need to understand the the memo,
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  • The modus operandi of the iranian regime.
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  • They're not waiting for trump to go home and end his term
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  • For them to go back to building iran.
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  • That's never their desire.
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  • It hasn't been in the past, and it's
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  • Not going to be in the future.
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  • What they are about is bringing forward this end
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  • Times eschatological theology that has to do with the mahdi.
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  • And, you know, this, this really destructive narrative.
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  • And that's what they're promoting.
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  • They want to hurt their population,
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  • And they do so with and without our help.
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  • Well, let's put it that way.
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  • And they want to harm israel and the united states,
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  • Not necessarily in that order.
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  • That's not going to change.
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  • And really, the way to look at this is not a binary
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  • Yes or no iran.
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  • It's understanding that this is always a conflict
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  • As long as the ayatollah regime is in power
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  • And as long as the supreme leader is in power,
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  • We're not exactly sure
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  • Who's pulling all the strings right now in iran.
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  • But let's say it's the mullahs, the clerics and the irgc.
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  • As long as they're in power,
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  • They're going to continue pushing in that direction
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  • And direction of destruction and suffering for others.
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  • But but i don't want people to lose hope here in this
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  • Because, again, it's not a black and white game.
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  • It's weakening, pushing back, harming the iranian regime's
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  • Ability to fight.
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  • That is the end goal here.
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  • And ultimately, if that regime and when that regime topples,
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  • It's going to happen like this almost overnight, like
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  • Many of these revolutions do.
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  • It's just almost impossible
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  • To see the signs until it really happens.
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  • And i think that's what we should be praying for
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  • And hoping for when it comes to the iranian regime.
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  • So well said. i love the point.
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  • You made a very relevant point about the ideology that drives
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  • This regime.
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  • We're talking
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  • That so-called twelver ideology, the mahdi that's wealthy mom.
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  • It's an apocalyptic
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  • Islamic end times ideology that ultimately drives him.
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  • Hey, about a minute left and we'll bring you right back.
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  • Is it your sense that iran's nuclear program, at least
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  • For now, is pretty much dead and no pun intended, buried?
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  • No, no.
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  • Definitely not.
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  • Iran never stopped trying to develop a bomb.
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  • They're always working on a contingency plan
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  • Because they've made lessons
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  • From history and seen that in their mind,
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  • The best thing they can pursue
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  • Is some kind of nuclear capability,
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  • Even not reaching full bomb capability,
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  • But having a threshold sort of position that's good for them.
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  • We've seen recent developments in pickax mountain,
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  • Where they're trying to bury enriched
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  • Uranium and facilities underground,
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  • As testament to the fact that they want to make sure
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  • That it's
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  • At least a bargaining chip that they can use in the future,
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  • If not actually pursuing a bomb now or sometime in the
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  • In the later future. yeah. mati so true.
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  • I mean, the nature of evil, right? it is relentless.
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  • They will not stop unless they are decisively crushed.
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  • Great stuff with our good friend shoshone folks.
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  • Check them out.
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  • Youtube, the tbn israel channel x instagram across
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  • Social media.
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  • Of course.
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  • Every thursday night here on tbn. co-host
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  • With our good friend yaya pinto of boots on the ground.
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  • Coming up,
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  • Mati mentioned the strait of hormuz,
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  • Where there's another strategic waterway in the region
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  • Not too far from the strait of hormuz that may be under siege.
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  • How can that impact you?
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  • Find out with mati after the break. stick around.
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  • Find out with mati after the break. stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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  • We're talking
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  • Friend mati shoshani,
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  • Co-host of boots on the ground, seen right here on tbn.
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  • Set your dvrs every thursday night, 9:30 p.m.
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  • Eastern time.
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  • Do not miss it, mati,
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  • We were talking about the strait of hormuz.
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  • Everyone's talked about the strait of hormuz right now.
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  • But there's another crucial maritime choke point the bab
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  • El mundo strait.
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  • Now, that kind of separates yemen from africa.
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  • And the houthis, of course, that iran backed terror group
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  • Have a strong presence in yemen.
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  • Now, we're hearing rumblings that the houthis may try on
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  • Iran's orders, of course, may try to shut down the bob
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  • Almond straight.
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  • And look, some 10 to 12% of the world's trade
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  • Passes through that waterway every day.
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  • What's the latest on the houthi situation?
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  • And that would be a nightmare scenario.
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  • It seems that
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  • The strait of hormuz and the bab el mundo strait jeopardized.
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  • Yeah.
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  • So i think that's a great point.
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  • Straits really are this choke hold
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  • On, on global trade specifically for ships and sort of
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  • By the nature of the business, they're slow and they're big
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  • And they're easy to target and harm.
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  • And again they carry expensive cargo.
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  • So they're very risk averse in the way they operate.
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  • They make the perfect target for terrorists
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  • Who want to fire a rocket
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  • And jeopardize global trade and economies that happen in the
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  • Strait of hormuz.
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  • And it's been threatened once again
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  • To happen in the straits of mandeb,
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  • Leading into the red sea.
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  • And we've been in this, this game before.
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  • The houthis have tried to do this before.
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  • I need to say a couple of things to to clarify the difference,
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  • Though the bubble up straight is considerably wider than the
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  • Strait of hormuz actually is, so it's a lot harder
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  • To completely close.
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  • It's a lot harder to completely jeopardize
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  • The ships in as it as it happens in the strait of hormuz.
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  • But it is a threat.
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  • And this is the way the iranians operate.
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  • For the most part, they operate through proxies,
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  • And they usually try to use
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  • The threat of violence versus just using straight on violence,
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  • Because it's more effective and gives them
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  • Considerably more bang for buck when it comes to that effect.
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  • And the houthis have been their allies,
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  • Their friends, their partners in crime
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  • For a very long time now,
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  • Both in creating destruction in their country
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  • And destabilizing the region and fighting against the saudis,
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  • Which are sworn
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  • Enemies of the iranians for multiple different reasons
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  • That we won't go into right now.
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  • And, of course, the hotels are perfectly placed
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  • To also jeopardize travel
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  • Through the red sea or into the red sea
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  • Leading to the suez
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  • Canal, and again, a huge disrupter of global trade.
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  • But i need to say a couple of things here.
  • 00:10:17.508 --> 00:10:19.644
  • This war is, to a great degree, a financial and attrition war.
  • 00:10:19.644 --> 00:10:24.482
  • What we're witnessing now,
  • 00:10:24.482 --> 00:10:25.783
  • These press releases that we're hearing from the hopis
  • 00:10:25.783 --> 00:10:27.852
  • And we should take them as press releases,
  • 00:10:27.852 --> 00:10:30.121
  • Not just as war threats and more chance by them.
  • 00:10:30.121 --> 00:10:33.191
  • This is all a game, and it's a high stakes
  • 00:10:33.191 --> 00:10:36.260
  • Game, but a game in which
  • 00:10:36.260 --> 00:10:37.628
  • Iran is trying to disrupt
  • 00:10:37.628 --> 00:10:39.030
  • Global trade and humiliate the united states
  • 00:10:39.030 --> 00:10:41.699
  • By causing damage to the markets.
  • 00:10:41.699 --> 00:10:43.401
  • And the us is using military, financial and diplomatic tools
  • 00:10:43.401 --> 00:10:48.239
  • To try and create a counter effect to that.
  • 00:10:48.239 --> 00:10:51.175
  • And they're doing so very successfully.
  • 00:10:51.175 --> 00:10:53.478
  • By the way,
  • 00:10:53.478 --> 00:10:54.579
  • If you follow the press releases from the white house,
  • 00:10:54.579 --> 00:10:56.948
  • If you follow the schedules and went to operations
  • 00:10:56.948 --> 00:10:59.283
  • Or carried out against iran by the united states,
  • 00:10:59.283 --> 00:11:03.187
  • There's a deep understanding of the financial mechanics
  • 00:11:03.187 --> 00:11:05.857
  • Over there, and also in the way the markets respond globally.
  • 00:11:05.857 --> 00:11:09.260
  • And president trump and his, let's call it war cabinet,
  • 00:11:09.260 --> 00:11:13.030
  • Have been incredibly successful in preventing prices from going
  • 00:11:13.030 --> 00:11:16.634
  • Too high and the disruption to global trade
  • 00:11:16.634 --> 00:11:19.237
  • Being very dramatic up to this point
  • 00:11:19.237 --> 00:11:21.305
  • Over a several month conflict.
  • 00:11:21.305 --> 00:11:23.074
  • And i think we need to
  • 00:11:23.074 --> 00:11:24.776
  • Acknowledge how effective it's been so far.
  • 00:11:24.776 --> 00:11:27.111
  • So yes, there is a threat is a detrimental to global trade.
  • 00:11:27.111 --> 00:11:30.181
  • It is not.
  • 00:11:30.181 --> 00:11:30.882
  • And we need to remember that
  • 00:11:30.882 --> 00:11:32.183
  • The us and israel
  • 00:11:32.183 --> 00:11:33.651
  • Have a substantial military presence in the region.
  • 00:11:33.651 --> 00:11:36.053
  • And we've shown repeatedly over the last couple of years
  • 00:11:36.053 --> 00:11:39.056
  • That we know to find the leadership
  • 00:11:39.056 --> 00:11:41.025
  • And their targets when we need to.
  • 00:11:41.025 --> 00:11:42.894
  • Yeah, they've been a lot more quiet
  • 00:11:42.894 --> 00:11:44.428
  • In the past year, needless to say, have been the houthis.
  • 00:11:44.428 --> 00:11:46.998
  • And you make good point to mati.
  • 00:11:46.998 --> 00:11:48.499
  • Yes. and gas prices have risen since february
  • 00:11:48.499 --> 00:11:51.636
  • When operation epic fury slash roaring lion kicked off.
  • 00:11:51.636 --> 00:11:54.705
  • But nowhere near the nightmare
  • 00:11:54.705 --> 00:11:56.841
  • Scenarios that some were predicting.
  • 00:11:56.841 --> 00:11:59.477
  • Speaking of nightmares and speaking of iran's proxies,
  • 00:11:59.477 --> 00:12:02.747
  • You just returned from northern israel near the lebanon border.
  • 00:12:02.747 --> 00:12:06.284
  • Hezbollah, another situation
  • 00:12:06.284 --> 00:12:08.252
  • Where they're down but they're not out.
  • 00:12:08.252 --> 00:12:11.322
  • What's the latest up north? marty, we know the u.s.
  • 00:12:11.322 --> 00:12:13.891
  • Has been brokering negotiations between the u.s.
  • 00:12:13.891 --> 00:12:16.894
  • And the lebanese,
  • 00:12:16.894 --> 00:12:18.062
  • Between israel, i'm sorry, and the lebanese government,
  • 00:12:18.062 --> 00:12:20.464
  • But hezbollah still there has not disarmed.
  • 00:12:20.464 --> 00:12:23.868
  • What's the latest on the ground in lebanon?
  • 00:12:23.868 --> 00:12:26.437
  • Well, i'll give you it straight from the source
  • 00:12:27.371 --> 00:12:29.540
  • I just interviewed this afternoon,
  • 00:12:29.540 --> 00:12:30.908
  • A high ranking officer
  • 00:12:30.908 --> 00:12:32.710
  • In one of the elite units in the idf,
  • 00:12:32.710 --> 00:12:34.545
  • And he just came out two days ago from lebanon
  • 00:12:34.545 --> 00:12:37.915
  • After spending a considerable
  • 00:12:37.915 --> 00:12:39.150
  • Amount of time dismantling infrastructure inside lebanon.
  • 00:12:39.150 --> 00:12:42.520
  • And i need to remind people
  • 00:12:42.520 --> 00:12:43.754
  • At home or watching this, he's spent a lifetime
  • 00:12:43.754 --> 00:12:47.658
  • Building fortifications
  • 00:12:47.658 --> 00:12:49.393
  • Inside of lebanon for the purpose
  • 00:12:49.393 --> 00:12:50.761
  • Of attacking israel and gathering weaponry
  • 00:12:50.761 --> 00:12:53.497
  • And training a population to be a war tool against israel.
  • 00:12:53.497 --> 00:12:57.935
  • They're not freedom fighters.
  • 00:12:57.935 --> 00:12:59.036
  • They're not there to liberate the people of lebanon.
  • 00:12:59.036 --> 00:13:01.472
  • They are
  • 00:13:01.472 --> 00:13:02.673
  • There to be the evil doers on behalf of the iranian regime.
  • 00:13:02.673 --> 00:13:06.244
  • If ever there
  • 00:13:06.244 --> 00:13:07.345
  • Was an imperial force, if ever there was a, let's call
  • 00:13:07.345 --> 00:13:10.147
  • It, a mercenary force in the middle east,
  • 00:13:10.147 --> 00:13:11.949
  • It is on behalf of iran.
  • 00:13:11.949 --> 00:13:14.719
  • They were created in their image with their funding.
  • 00:13:14.719 --> 00:13:17.255
  • The name was given to them by iran.
  • 00:13:17.255 --> 00:13:19.390
  • Iranian leadership and their funding,
  • 00:13:19.390 --> 00:13:21.459
  • Training and equipment
  • 00:13:21.459 --> 00:13:22.426
  • Continues to come and originate from iran.
  • 00:13:22.426 --> 00:13:25.363
  • That's a reality that we have to put on the table.
  • 00:13:25.363 --> 00:13:27.999
  • That's locally.
  • 00:13:27.999 --> 00:13:29.066
  • The idf continues to fight against hezbollah
  • 00:13:29.066 --> 00:13:32.603
  • Infrastructure and strongholds within lebanon,
  • 00:13:32.603 --> 00:13:35.072
  • With the very clear purpose of pushing them as far back
  • 00:13:35.072 --> 00:13:38.242
  • As we can from the israeli border and israeli civilians,
  • 00:13:38.242 --> 00:13:41.312
  • And importantly,
  • 00:13:41.312 --> 00:13:42.313
  • Also eliminating pockets of resistance of that.
  • 00:13:42.313 --> 00:13:45.983
  • Are some of them closed off in areas
  • 00:13:45.983 --> 00:13:47.919
  • Where they're surrounded by the idf
  • 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:49.520
  • That's locally now internationally.
  • 00:13:49.520 --> 00:13:51.822
  • To your question, there's an ongoing negotiation
  • 00:13:51.822 --> 00:13:54.258
  • Taking place,
  • 00:13:54.258 --> 00:13:55.559
  • Sort of at the behest and with the backing
  • 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.361
  • Of the united states between israel and lebanon.
  • 00:13:57.361 --> 00:13:59.997
  • And the idea is simple,
  • 00:13:59.997 --> 00:14:01.198
  • And it's been in the making for over a year at this point,
  • 00:14:01.198 --> 00:14:04.135
  • It's to empower the lebanese
  • 00:14:04.135 --> 00:14:05.937
  • Government sufficiently and the lebanese
  • 00:14:05.937 --> 00:14:08.172
  • Fighting forces sufficiently so they can take israel's place
  • 00:14:08.172 --> 00:14:12.043
  • In specific pockets.
  • 00:14:12.043 --> 00:14:13.444
  • It's called the pilot program, replacing them one at a time.
  • 00:14:13.444 --> 00:14:16.881
  • Idf withdraws
  • 00:14:16.881 --> 00:14:18.049
  • Lebanese forces replace them and allowing them to push
  • 00:14:18.049 --> 00:14:20.785
  • Against hezbollah.
  • 00:14:20.785 --> 00:14:21.953
  • Now, this is no simple task.
  • 00:14:21.953 --> 00:14:23.988
  • Lebanon is a country that's been war
  • 00:14:23.988 --> 00:14:25.656
  • Torn and internally suffering from severe problems
  • 00:14:25.656 --> 00:14:29.560
  • For many, many years now.
  • 00:14:29.560 --> 00:14:30.962
  • And hezbollah is one of those big problems.
  • 00:14:30.962 --> 00:14:33.264
  • They need funding and they need training,
  • 00:14:33.264 --> 00:14:35.099
  • And they need diplomatic
  • 00:14:35.099 --> 00:14:36.834
  • And even practical support on the ground to do that.
  • 00:14:36.834 --> 00:14:39.603
  • Finally, i think we're getting to the point
  • 00:14:39.603 --> 00:14:41.839
  • Where both the us and several european countries
  • 00:14:41.839 --> 00:14:44.442
  • Are expressing willingness
  • 00:14:44.442 --> 00:14:46.077
  • To really give that practical help, as is the idf, by the way.
  • 00:14:46.077 --> 00:14:49.380
  • And i think we're able to see a future now in lebanon,
  • 00:14:49.380 --> 00:14:52.516
  • A country that used to be considered
  • 00:14:52.516 --> 00:14:53.951
  • The french riviera of the middle east and
  • 00:14:53.951 --> 00:14:55.753
  • And really was a beautiful country,
  • 00:14:55.753 --> 00:14:57.788
  • Both in topography and nature and people.
  • 00:14:57.788 --> 00:15:00.358
  • They might have a future that expels hezbollah and starts
  • 00:15:00.358 --> 00:15:04.095
  • Rebuilding that country.
  • 00:15:04.095 --> 00:15:05.096
  • Now, rebuilding is a lot harder than destroying.
  • 00:15:05.096 --> 00:15:06.998
  • But i think finally, after many, many years, decades, i guess
  • 00:15:06.998 --> 00:15:11.602
  • We're able to see a future in which lebanon
  • 00:15:11.602 --> 00:15:13.337
  • Would be able to rebuild itself without hezbollah being present
  • 00:15:13.337 --> 00:15:16.707
  • And sabotaging things in the country.
  • 00:15:16.707 --> 00:15:19.910
  • Great breakdown, god willing. right?
  • 00:15:19.910 --> 00:15:21.679
  • A new day in lebanon. it's been a long, long time.
  • 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.515
  • The long suffering people of lebanon, much like iran,
  • 00:15:24.515 --> 00:15:27.618
  • Long suffering under tyrannies, iran and hezbollah.
  • 00:15:27.618 --> 00:15:31.789
  • Coming up, we're talking about
  • 00:15:31.789 --> 00:15:32.990
  • Iran, hezbollah, hamas, the houthis, the axis.
  • 00:15:32.990 --> 00:15:36.494
  • You do know already, but are you aware of any merging threats?
  • 00:15:36.494 --> 00:15:41.198
  • Some consider it the next iran.
  • 00:15:41.198 --> 00:15:44.135
  • And guess what? it's a nato member nation.
  • 00:15:44.135 --> 00:15:47.038
  • Get the inside story from mati shoshani after the break.
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  • Don't move.
  • 00:15:51.242 --> 00:15:54.005
  • Don't move.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
  • 00:15:57.915 --> 00:15:59.216
  • We are talking to the man, mati shoshani.
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  • Mati, his co-host yair pinto boots on the ground.
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  • Incredible, incredible analysis, commentary,
  • 00:16:17.735 --> 00:16:20.371
  • And from a biblical perspective, from the very heart
  • 00:16:20.371 --> 00:16:23.674
  • Of the middle east.
  • 00:16:23.674 --> 00:16:24.575
  • Mati, great to have you back with us.
  • 00:16:24.575 --> 00:16:25.876
  • Hey, we're talking iran's ring of fire for much of the show.
  • 00:16:25.876 --> 00:16:28.979
  • I want to shift a bit now
  • 00:16:28.979 --> 00:16:30.815
  • To what i see as an emerging threat.
  • 00:16:30.815 --> 00:16:33.384
  • We're talking turkey and nato member nation, the second
  • 00:16:33.384 --> 00:16:36.520
  • Largest military in nato, behind only the united states.
  • 00:16:36.520 --> 00:16:40.324
  • Tape.
  • 00:16:40.558 --> 00:16:41.425
  • Erdogan engages and i think some of the
  • 00:16:41.425 --> 00:16:43.761
  • Most vicious anti-israel and anti-semitic rhetoric
  • 00:16:43.761 --> 00:16:47.665
  • This side of the iranian regime.
  • 00:16:47.665 --> 00:16:49.500
  • Marty, he's been a big supporter of hamas.
  • 00:16:49.500 --> 00:16:52.903
  • He's talked about conquering jerusalem.
  • 00:16:52.903 --> 00:16:55.072
  • He's muslim brotherhood through and through.
  • 00:16:55.072 --> 00:16:58.042
  • And it seems that israel is concerned about him as well.
  • 00:16:58.042 --> 00:17:01.912
  • How do you see the erdogan situation right now?
  • 00:17:01.912 --> 00:17:04.315
  • Is he poised to perhaps
  • 00:17:04.315 --> 00:17:06.450
  • Fill a vacuum left by the collapse of the iranian axis?
  • 00:17:06.450 --> 00:17:11.288
  • Well, before i answer, erick, i want to credit you and say
  • 00:17:12.456 --> 00:17:15.025
  • That more than a decade ago,
  • 00:17:15.025 --> 00:17:17.027
  • You repeatedly talked about the fact
  • 00:17:17.027 --> 00:17:18.596
  • That he is going to be a huge threat to the global peace.
  • 00:17:18.596 --> 00:17:21.732
  • And we talked about this on back in
  • 00:17:21.732 --> 00:17:24.001
  • The good old watchmen days and in personal conversations.
  • 00:17:24.001 --> 00:17:27.171
  • You saw this coming and sadly, in the middle east.
  • 00:17:27.171 --> 00:17:30.307
  • And i guess in this part of the world, empires may rise
  • 00:17:30.307 --> 00:17:33.110
  • And they may fall, but they never really go away.
  • 00:17:33.110 --> 00:17:35.079
  • And logan is exactly that.
  • 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:36.914
  • It's the same spirit of the ottoman empire
  • 00:17:36.914 --> 00:17:40.584
  • That wants to conquer, wants to control just with him.
  • 00:17:40.584 --> 00:17:43.521
  • There's a spice of radical islam and a deep seated
  • 00:17:43.521 --> 00:17:47.291
  • Anti-semitism towards israel.
  • 00:17:47.291 --> 00:17:49.260
  • Israel looks, and i need a understate this
  • 00:17:49.260 --> 00:17:52.997
  • Every time that he comes to the global stage once more,
  • 00:17:52.997 --> 00:17:56.700
  • Our country publicly responds in a very visceral way
  • 00:17:56.700 --> 00:18:00.638
  • Against it.
  • 00:18:00.638 --> 00:18:01.872
  • This man has publicly expressed repeatedly
  • 00:18:01.872 --> 00:18:04.642
  • His hatred to the jewish people, a desire for,
  • 00:18:04.642 --> 00:18:07.545
  • I mean, hurting the nation of israel
  • 00:18:07.545 --> 00:18:10.414
  • Only purely from an ideological perspective.
  • 00:18:10.414 --> 00:18:12.383
  • It's not a practical conversation.
  • 00:18:12.383 --> 00:18:14.218
  • It's not bedded in in any kind of logic that makes sense.
  • 00:18:14.218 --> 00:18:17.321
  • Aside from the spiritual side of this,
  • 00:18:17.321 --> 00:18:19.557
  • This entire conversation,
  • 00:18:19.557 --> 00:18:20.958
  • And he's always looking for a stake
  • 00:18:20.958 --> 00:18:23.027
  • And a place to shove his interest in the middle east.
  • 00:18:23.027 --> 00:18:25.663
  • If it's in syria, when it gets destabilized,
  • 00:18:25.663 --> 00:18:28.232
  • If instead lebanon,
  • 00:18:28.232 --> 00:18:29.533
  • If it's when the kurds are mentioned
  • 00:18:29.533 --> 00:18:31.235
  • In any context in the middle east,
  • 00:18:31.235 --> 00:18:33.337
  • You know, first and foremost
  • 00:18:33.337 --> 00:18:35.206
  • On the line to get them, they're in the business of this
  • 00:18:35.206 --> 00:18:37.841
  • Topic is turkey, led by eldon that wants to have a stake
  • 00:18:37.841 --> 00:18:41.579
  • In this. and again, his intent is malicious.
  • 00:18:41.579 --> 00:18:44.114
  • He has sponsored terrorism against israel.
  • 00:18:44.114 --> 00:18:46.317
  • He has sent, even in recent months,
  • 00:18:46.317 --> 00:18:48.953
  • Flotillas to, quote unquote, liberate the people of gaza
  • 00:18:48.953 --> 00:18:52.523
  • That mean nothing but to use terrorism against the government
  • 00:18:52.523 --> 00:18:56.260
  • And the people of israel, a very dangerous,
  • 00:18:56.260 --> 00:18:59.263
  • A very alarming individual who's just been on this ongoing
  • 00:18:59.263 --> 00:19:03.067
  • Trend to bring more havoc into this part of the world.
  • 00:19:03.067 --> 00:19:06.270
  • And and i think we need to recognize him for what he is.
  • 00:19:06.270 --> 00:19:09.073
  • He's a muslim radical.
  • 00:19:09.073 --> 00:19:10.341
  • He has declared over every possible stage
  • 00:19:10.341 --> 00:19:12.776
  • That he's planning to carry out a ideologically motivated,
  • 00:19:12.776 --> 00:19:17.147
  • Violent attack against israel,
  • 00:19:17.147 --> 00:19:19.083
  • And he wants to see the demise of the state of israel.
  • 00:19:19.083 --> 00:19:22.052
  • So well said on every front, and it's hard to believe.
  • 00:19:22.052 --> 00:19:25.022
  • But before erdogan took office in 2002,
  • 00:19:25.022 --> 00:19:28.826
  • Turkey was a great friend to israel.
  • 00:19:28.826 --> 00:19:30.561
  • The united states, westernized, had about a minute left.
  • 00:19:30.561 --> 00:19:33.497
  • Can't let you go without a quick israeli political breakdown.
  • 00:19:33.497 --> 00:19:37.268
  • Elections, i believe october 27th or 28th.
  • 00:19:37.268 --> 00:19:39.770
  • Coming up, bibi once again standing.
  • 00:19:39.770 --> 00:19:42.306
  • And the likud party wants to sta
  • 00:19:42.306 --> 00:19:46.577
  • Naftali bennett.
  • 00:19:46.977 --> 00:19:47.945
  • Yahya lapid isn't a coalition forming
  • 00:19:47.945 --> 00:19:51.348
  • Only about a minute left.
  • 00:19:51.348 --> 00:19:52.416
  • But the latest
  • 00:19:52.416 --> 00:19:53.851
  • Your political forecast as we look ahead to october.
  • 00:19:53.851 --> 00:19:56.587
  • Still early, i know, but it's the conversation is growing now.
  • 00:19:56.587 --> 00:20:00.858
  • Yeah, it's too early to call any kind of numbers right now.
  • 00:20:01.992 --> 00:20:05.029
  • But what we do know is these are the first elections
  • 00:20:05.029 --> 00:20:07.531
  • That are taking place since october 7th, 2023 started.
  • 00:20:07.531 --> 00:20:11.435
  • It's a dramatic when it comes to security.
  • 00:20:11.435 --> 00:20:13.470
  • It's dramatic when it comes to caring responsibility
  • 00:20:13.470 --> 00:20:16.740
  • For what has happened in the last couple of years,
  • 00:20:16.740 --> 00:20:18.709
  • Whether this can be counted
  • 00:20:18.709 --> 00:20:19.777
  • As a success or failure, or both of them.
  • 00:20:19.777 --> 00:20:22.346
  • For prime minister netanyahu and his leadership of this country
  • 00:20:22.346 --> 00:20:25.316
  • In recent years.
  • 00:20:25.316 --> 00:20:26.317
  • But there's a huge shift in the political map
  • 00:20:26.317 --> 00:20:29.153
  • Just to talk about a few enormous young demographic
  • 00:20:29.153 --> 00:20:32.423
  • That makes up at least six seats in the knesset
  • 00:20:32.423 --> 00:20:35.626
  • That has never voted before, and much of it leans very right
  • 00:20:35.626 --> 00:20:39.396
  • Wing, very orthodox or very arab,
  • 00:20:39.396 --> 00:20:42.066
  • By the way, that's the demographic
  • 00:20:42.066 --> 00:20:43.500
  • That's entering the voter circle in this country.
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  • Again,
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  • The draft of the orthodox into the idf is a huge art in israel.
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  • Even today, as we're speaking,
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  • There were demonstrations that closed off one of the main
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  • Highways in the country over this topic.
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  • Again, a lot of really, really big topics.
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  • And then you have finances that are,
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  • You know, a big issue because of the war
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  • Financing and everything else that's happening in the world.
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  • There's a lot going on.
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  • Again, there's a lot that's going to change.
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  • There's a lot of political spin.
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  • But i just say, let's pray for this before the elections come.
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  • That's where i would end.
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  • We're going to do that. exactly that after the break.
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  • By the way, monte, look, israeli elections, late
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  • October, big elections, midterms
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  • Here in the us, early november, a need for prayer.
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  • And we're going to do that with mati for the break.
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  • Stick around for a closing prayer from jerusalem.
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  • Stick around for a closing prayer from jerusalem.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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  • We're closing out with our good friend mati shoshani.
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  • Mati, they say that in jerusalem, god is a local call.
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  • So can you take us out in prayer
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  • For america and israel and the world?
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  • I'll just say that in jerusalem, we have no choice but to pray
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  • Because things are usually difficult.
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  • But let me just say this one
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  • We're commanded to pray for the peace of jerusalem,
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  • Or commanded to pray for god's will to be done on earth
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  • As it is in heaven, and to pray for our leadership.
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  • So let's do exactly that.
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  • Father god,
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  • We just thank you
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  • For being sovereign, for being having dominion over
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  • Everything that happens in this earth.
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  • And we put before you everything that we discussed today
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  • And just declare your will over this middle east.
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  • And we pray specifically for our leadership,
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  • Regardless of our political opinions.
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  • We pray for president trump, racial prime minister netanyahu,
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  • We pray for the leaders of this region,
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  • Including those of the gulf states, ms..
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  • Nbc and others.
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  • We pray for supernatural wisdom
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  • For those individuals and also supernatural protection
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  • For our men and women in arms, both israelis and americans
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  • Who are fighting to protect this country
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  • And this region against
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  • The greatest evil of our time, the iranian ayatollah regime.
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  • And we ask god that you, your will, be done on earth
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  • As it is in heaven,
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  • That you continue to protect and safeguard the people of israel
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  • And put your peace on this city, on your city, jerusalem.
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  • I'm in. amen.
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  • Mati great being with you, my friend.
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  • Shabbat shalom.
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  • God bless.
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  • Keep up the great work, mati. we'll see you again soon. yes.
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  • And, folks, boots on the ground every thursday night.
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  • Tv and israel on youtube.
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  • He's sure to check mati out.
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  • Hey, have a great weekend.
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  • Until next week. god bless you.
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  • We'll see you soon.
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